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Hello, my Spookyes, I have
a special holiday treat for you. This

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is an episode of my new podcast
all about film called do You Even Movie,

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featuring myself and my good buddy David
Denoyer, who you may remember from

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our Ultimate guide to Halloween Horror Movies. Well, this is an episode where

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we talk all about the Christmas horror
film Don't Open Till Christmas, and it's

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a pretty fun episode. If you
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So check that out at doooevenmovie dot
com if you enjoy what you're about to

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hear. But now time for a
little holiday present, as I present you

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Do You Even Movie? On weekly
Spook Prevent from the people who brought you

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Friday at thirteenth now comes Don't Open. A homicidal maniac is loose at Christmas.

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His target is Santa Claus. No
one dressed as Santa Claus is sane.

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His death toys are a spear,
a gun as a laser, a

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dagger, or a garret. Execution
by any means don't open till Christmas.

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Don't open till Christmas with special guest
star Carolyn Monroe. Till Christmas, don't

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open till Christmas. If you do, you may not see in the new

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Year. In a world where podcasts
reign supreme, two Friends dare to ask,

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do you even? Movie? Hosted
by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado

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David Denyer. Spoiler alert, Hey, my friends, and I suppose happy

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holidays everybody, Hony time for the
December months? Yes here at do you

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even? Movie? And if you're
not listening to them around that holiday season,

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then you're a hateful person and we
don't stand by you whatsoever. I

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am your host, Enrique Kuto here
with my good buddy and co host David

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de Noie esquireson's greetings. That's not
words and happy holidays once again? Oh

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look stealing my lines? All right, Well, we have quite quite a

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gift for you here tonight, as
we are going to be talking about one

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of the most batshit crazy holiday films
that probably ever been made. Yeah.

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I don't know if I can think
of another holiday film that's as nuts.

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There might be this one. There
might be a few, but I don't

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think any have the notoriety and the
tie to our friendship as much as this

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one has notoriety. I mean,
Joe Bob showed it last year. That

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what Joe Bob showed it last year? On the Christmas He's showed like one

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hundred and twenty movies or something already. I just I feel like this since

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since the release of this on Blue
ray, I feel like it's getting a

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little bit of a bigger audio.
I don't know what, what do you

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want me to say that no one
knows that. I'm just saying. I

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don't know if notoriety is the right
statement. I feel like this is an

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infamous little ity. Yeah. So
in the world of Christmas horror, and

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that's where we're going tonight. We're
heading into Christmas horror. In the world

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of Christmas horror, you have your
obvious stuff, like your Silent Night,

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Deadly Night. But then if you
dive in to the more the less mainstream

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movies, the ones that you would
see late at night on cable or on

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a weird, questionable streaming app,
that's when you get into stuff like you

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get your Silent Night, bloody Nights, and you get your don't Open Until

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Christmas is who for all intensive purposes. Don't Ope Until Christmas is public domain

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as far as we could tell.
Yeah, because it's available everywhere. I

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mean, anywhere you watch movies is
probably going to have some iteration. But

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this new Blu ray looks amazing,
incredible. So that's one of the reasons

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we've been re enjoying it, is
that we've been able to actually see the

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detail, to see the magic that
is this film is something Okay, that

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is we're going to dive into Don't
Open Until Christmas. Also, this is

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one of those foreign production movies where
you're just watching and as you're watching,

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you're like, Okay, how did
we get here? Yeah, but that's

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actually kind of one of the big
charming elements of Don't Open Until Christmas.

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The first time I saw Don't Open
Until Christmas was on a fifty pack of

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movies that I bought a like best
Buy, and I saw that title of

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Christmas, so I put that on
and there you have it. So what

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about you double show? Do you
remember? I think it was back in

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the tail end of December for twenty
thirteen, probably, if not twenty twelve,

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when Anchor Bay finally re released Silent
at Deadly Night double pack of one

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and two together, of course coincide
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At the time, that was when
I kind of went into a Christmas

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taal spin and I was I was
a manager at the store I worked at

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at the time, which was a
media store, and I had access to

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special orders because of that. So
I just kind of went down a barrage

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list of Christmas horror that I hadn't
seen and don't know, doge a barrage

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list? Yes, that's not a
thing, I don't know. Just don't

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you listen to me? All right? Never, So I went down.

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I went down a rabbit hole at
Christmas titles, and one of the one

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of the peak ones was don't Up
until Christmas because it had been released on

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Blu Ray or on DVD by Monda
Macabro for at least like five maybe a

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little longer than that years before something
like that. Yeah, And as to

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my knowledge, I was under the
impression it was out of print. And

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this was kind of before I really
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like really dive deep into what was
out of print and what was just harder

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to find. I guess is the
best way to put that. Sure,

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So special orders went onto it.
There was the Mondo Macabre release of Don't

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Until Christmas, so it was on
back order. So I just would hit

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order on those because you know,
either they came in or they didn't.

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And one year it came in and
I watched it, and I remember I

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was living my uncle's house at the
time, and he came down right at

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the ending and he's like, is
this don't open until Christmas? And I

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was like, there's a reason I
live with you. But it was just

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one of those movies that I immediately
latched onto because I'm a huge slasher fan.

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You know this, and we we've
watched many a slasher films on your

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screen, and I just I'm such
a sucker for Christmas horror. And there's

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so much more bad than there is
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one right. Christmas horror. There's
more bad than there is good. This

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is news to me, everybody,
literally my all my memories. Today,

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it popped up that like six or
seven years ago, you and I today

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were watching Mother Crampis and Red Christmas. Wow. Yeah, that was quite

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a double feature. It was quite
a double feature indeed. Yeahah, it's

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no, don't open until Christmas.
No, no, it's not. But

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so don't up until Christmas. This
was made in nineteen eighty four or it

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just released in nineteen eighty four.
Yeah, we're gonna get into some of

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the oh my, interesting elements of
it, of its production and distribution.

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But why don't you run down the
pertinent deep? All right, so we're

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talking about don't until Christmas? The
release date of nineteen eighty four, eighty

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six minute runtime with an R rating
and a hard R rating at that too.

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The director say hard R does that? Say? But no, this

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film is interesting because you're gonna hear
me say this. Now. This film

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technically has three directors, but our
first director is Edmund Purdahm. And if

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you might know that name, it's
either because you're either a Pieces fan or

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one of want favorites from Jodamato Absurd. The man was a huge he was

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famous before that uge. Yeah,
I know, but our audience, our

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audience in particular, maybe yeah,
but no, I mean he was a

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huge Hollywood actor Julius Caesar in nineteen
fifty three Diary of Ann Frankt fifty nine.

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It Takes a Thief in sixty nine, The Fifth Cord in seventy one,

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Beyond the Door in seventy four,
Absurd in eighty one, Invaders of

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the Lost Gold, and Pieces in
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Gold the only film where I was
promised cannibals and did not get any cannibals.

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So Severin put out Invaders of the
Lost Gold about a year ago with

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a it was a combo release.
Was it Joe Demano or who is it

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that did strike Strike Commando? A
Strike Commando that sounds like Demodol, Yeah,

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Demto, I think did Strike Comando
and Strike Commando two. And they

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coincided that release with Invader's Lost Gold, which was a basic loose remake of

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the Treasure of Sierra Madre that was
done in the Philippines, and you had

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Edmund Purdam in it, and it
was directed by the second director on this,

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which is Alan Berkshab. But anyway, the reason Enrique brings that up

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is because for some reason when I
when I got that title, I decided

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that there were cannibals in it something
I have read. It was not on

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the box cover or anything. No, it was just somehow it got into

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David's mind. It was probably just
because of the fact that there are tribal

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warriors in it in the opening,
and I just kind of linked those two

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together because Joe Tomoto did those cannibal
films as well. Quite the Colonialist,

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isn't he? Perdam also did twenty
nineteen After the Fall of New York.

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He was entire Titanic The Legend goes
On in two thousand, that cartoon with

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the Titanic John and the writer on
this film and second director is Derek Ford.

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He was the director and writer on
a film called Swappers in nineteen seventy,

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Keep It Up Jack in seventy four, Diversions in seventy six, and

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then back to Alan Berkshaw. He
is our final and third director and writer

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on the film. He did Killer's
Moon in nineteen seventy eight, Invader's Last

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Gold in eighty two, Don't Have
Until Christmas in eighty four. He was

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the director of the House of Usher
in eighty nine. That the one that

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you and Morgan watched South Africa.
Yeah, okay, And he also did

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quite a film yeah, Mask of
the Red Death in eighty nine as well.

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So he did both of both of
those those are actually not bad.

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One of them, which one that
frank stallone I think of that mask,

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yeah, mask. And then finally
the name that we're going to talk in

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regards to production is our producer Dick
Randall. And Dick Randall, boy was

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he Randall? Dick Randall is the
epitome of an old Hollywood type. He

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is featured on the disc in a
making of segment called making a Horror Film

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that I'll talk a little bit more
towards the end. But he was a

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big Hollywood type, big producer.
He director, produced such films, directed

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and produced such films as Frankenstein's Castle
Freaks in nineteen seventy four, The Girl

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in Room two A and seventy four, as well The Real Bruce Lee in

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seventy seven, which did not feature
the real prison did not whatsoever Escape from

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Women's Prison in seventy eight, The
Clones of Bruce Lee in nineteen eighty That

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one also did not feature any semblance
of a real Bruce Ley Pieces in eighty

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two and VADs the Lost Gold in
eighty two, and one of my personal

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favorites Slutter High in nineteen eighty six, Baby Don't Worry Future episode. I'll

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make sure that happens that will not
be happening. But anyway. Randall is

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credited for bringing Kung Fu movies to
the West. He was a big time

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producer. He produced over sixty films
in his lifetime, and everybody has nothing

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but nice things to say about him. Me. I have a lot of

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bad things to say about that guy, let me tell y'all, But no,

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a lot of interesting characters behind them
film, but the film itself so

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Enrique. Here is the synopsis on
the back of the Vinegar Syndrome Blu Ray.

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It says, it is just days
before Christmas in London, but not

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everyone is full of good cheer.
As a maniac with a pathological hatred of

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Santa Claus stalks the streets, butchering
any man that's unlikely enough to be wandering

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around dressed as old saint like what
it says, unlucky enough. Nope,

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you're right. Not restricting himself to
any one method of murder, this twisted

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killer dishes out stabbing, his gunshots, a castorration, and even burns the

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face of one poor Sanna on his
own roasting chestnuts as the bodies have slaughtered.

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Father Christmas pile up. Chief Inspector
Harris finds himself under increasing pressure to

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crack the case before the holiday is
canceled for good. My synopsis, the

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serial killer is killing Santa Claus is
in London and Christmas time. I mean,

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I feel like you could have done
it. In less words, somehow

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you've been like, uh, Santa
Death and before before we get really into

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this movie, because we do have
to spoil basically everything about this movie in

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order to talk about it. Spoiling
that's the whole point of the s exactly.

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So spoiler alert there. Yeah.
So this movie is currently available on

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streaming. In particular, you can
find it on Shutter, but also you

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can get a DVD or Blu ray
available on Amazon pretty readily available, and

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you can check your multi horror packs
if you have those, because Lesa Nrique

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said, this is public domain,
so it is featured in a lot of

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those sets as well. So this
movie, I mean, where where do

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we start, Well, we could
start at the beginning. We'll start the

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beginning, all right, So let's
talk about our casting. So we already

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mentioned per Dom. He is,
uh, he's just a namesake in regards

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of old Hollywood, and he did
a lot of horror films. Toward the

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tail of his career, he was
kind of chased out of Hollywood because he

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unfortunately had an affair with a big
Hollywood producers. He felt it was unfortunately.

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I don't think he was upset about
it. I think he was happy

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as I do not think so.
But this film had a lot of troubled

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production with per Dom in mind,
and that starts with him taking over the

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He started the production in nineteen eighty
two. And if you wantuch the making

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of a horror movie, which is
like a fifty two minute little extra on

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the Vincent disc that was also on
the Macabre Disc as well, you can

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kind of see and they even Berkshaw
even says it in his interview on the

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disc as well. Perdam was really
well rounded in regards to his Hollywood knowledge

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and just being able to do stuff
behind the camera as well as in front

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of But by this point in his
career he had kind of gotten a little

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bit of a god complex. Well, he had been kind of expelled from

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Hollywood. Yeah, and now he
was a big fish in a very small

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pond. Again, of course,
he had family in Europe, I believe

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is why he wound up out that
way. That's correct. Was Pieces,

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the first one they roped him into. I believe so, because Pieces was

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an eighty two, so that would
have been following this, so it would

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have been the no, well,
no Pieces, Pieces was eighty two.

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Don't until Christmas is eighty four,
tech oh lease, So he finishes Pieces,

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but before that is Absurd in eighty
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Gold in eighty two. So Pieces
in invaders law School cosidne the same,

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okay, and it starts the same
your production as don't open til Christmas as

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well. So it wasn't uncommon for
these international productions to snap up a name

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talent because they needed every edge they
could get. So hearing a guy like

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him, even if as you're listening
to this you're thinking, I don't know

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who Edmund Pardome is, the fact
that anybody knew who he was was a

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huge victory for these small overseas productions. Absolutely so it makes sense that they'd

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snap him up and they'd cast him
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him as much as they could afford. In these days, it was very

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common to make a film, an
Italian film especially, and try to sell

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it as an American film because American
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but everywhere else. Everybody wanted American
movies because the understanding was that's where you

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go to get great films. You
go to America. Do You Even?

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Movie? Will be right back,
welcome to Do You Even movie? They

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work with Edmund per Dome multiple times
and now as don't op until Christmas is

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coming along, they're dangling the carrot
in his face of hey, you can

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be the director. Yeah, And
that is not an uncommon carrot to dangle

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in front of an actor, especially
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lot of money too. You give, and also directors tend to get a

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bigger piece of profit sharing if there
is any, they tend to be more

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respected. So in a way I
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I would totally agree because also on
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to Birkinshaw on the disc he does
mention that while he was not first hand

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involved with Donut until Christmas from its
initial concept, he did bring one of

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the main actors, Blenda Maine,
onto it, and he did have some

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insight into what was going on production
wise, and he mentioned that in regards

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to Dick Randall's office, it was
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a lot and basically like try to
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kind of begged him to step in
a dont until Christmas. Originally it was

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to be the lead and then per
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the God complex, He's like,
well, if I'm gonna be the

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actor, I would also like to
direct, And after you know, a

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couple back and forth, Randall agreed
to that as well. So well,

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and it makes sense though, I
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solidifying a director. Yeah. Now, had he directed anything before this?

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Do uni only directorial? Is this? Okay? So? But but you

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know, he'd been around movies for
a really long time. So and on

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top of that, they probably thought
like how bad could he possibly mess this

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up? Yeah? Absolutely, And
in a way he messed it up really

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bad. But in a way he
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point in that behind the scenes,
they're filming a scene that we'll talk about

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in a little more detail, where
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where they killed the Santa per Dom
even says on camera when they they don't

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get the shot right and like some
blood doesn't get seen. He's like,

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well, I'm not intending for this
movie to be very bloody, and Randall

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even in the d of scenes,
is like it's like, yeah, we

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we we decided to reshoot the scene. And then by that point we also

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had a new director. Yeah,
and that kind of thing happens. Yeah,

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have firsthand experience fixing movies like that. Being hired is what they call the

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hatchet man, and it's an it's
a thankless job. This was back in

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the day when the people involved were
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when a movie has so many problems, you need to hire somebody to come

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in and fix it. Yeah,
you don't credit them, because when you

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credit another writer and another director in
this film, I remember the opening credit

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said additional scenes by yeah, directed
by That signals to the distributors and to

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the audience that the film is troubled
and that they should assume it's going to

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suck. And I know that's being
very direct about it, like assuming it's

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gonna suck. But that's the truth. I hatchet manned this one flick,

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and I put more time into that
film than I think the original director and

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editor did combined. Not I mean
I got a producer credit somewhere on it,

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but like, but there was no
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I had actually fight over the fact
that they were crediting like four writers

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before I even got involved. I
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contact these writers and see if anybody's
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whatever. Now we're not in the
union so we could do stuff like that,

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but I was like, we got
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If we have four writers, everybody's
gonna know this movie's a mess before

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they start watching it. And perception
is everything. I cannot overstate that I've

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I've literally shown short films that I
directed to film experts, film professionals,

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you know, air quote shit.
I've showed it to film professionals and they've

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been like, Wow, that was
really great, and then when they find

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out how cheaply and quickly it was
done magically magically, it becomes far less

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impressive. Perception is such a massive
element of the film business. Yeah,

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and people often are in denial of
that because it's really unromantic. It's not

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fun that perception is everything. No, but perception is everything. Well,

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and going back to that when the
regards to having too many names in one

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spot, I remember when you and
I went to go see Hellfest and immediately

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when those six writers popped up on
screen, Oh, this film had trouble.

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Yeah, And that doesn't mean it's
going to be bad. It does

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mean it was trouble yeah. And
it's the same thing about going back with

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directors in their names. The one
I always think of is Alan Smithy in

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regards to Maniac Cop three. Well, that's a famous name people used to

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take their names off of thing,
but it's also kind of a middle finger

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to the movie itself. It's like, I've always wondered why studios let the

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directors change it to Alan smith because
it's a part of the union. Yea

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that they can do that, But
it's like that's like me doing a project

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for a producer and then being mad
so I changed my name to Sucky Suckerson

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or like this movie sucks smith you
know, Like I feel like it's an

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unfair thing to have the audience get
a pre a preface that this movie won't

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be good. It's like, you
know, it's like, uh, it's

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it's like you're you're burning the bridge
on your way out to make sure nobody

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else can enjoy it. So I
always kind of was bummed by that,

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although in their defense, most of
the people who throw Alan Smithy on something,

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it's not because they're not happy with
their performance. It's because they're unhappy

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with the way they were managed and
the way their film was taken from them.

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So I'm not trying to like crap
on any filmmakers out there who were,

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like, I don't want to put
up with you know, my name

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being on whatever. But that's a
big thing, especially when you have low

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budget movies. Perception is such a
massive element of everything. So that's why

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it's like I always get nervous when
I see like multiple right, Like when

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I see the worst isn't when you
see when you have like three writers.

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It's when you have three teams of
writers. You have so and so,

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amper sand so and so and then
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and the word and and another name. That's a lot of writing teams that's

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troublesome. Indeed. Yeah. So. But now going back to the production

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of this, So the main story
that we have in in Don Up until

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Christmas is basically a police procedural where
we are following a killer that's going around

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killing Santa Clauses. And then we
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his partner Powell, and they're basically
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and in doing so we meet our
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have, uh is we have Belinda
Main's character who's Kate, and her boyfriend

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is what is his name? I
want to mention real quick, calling don't

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open until Christmas like a police procedural
is like calling is like calling Wizard of

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Oz, like a like a murder
mystery. That's fair, I mean,

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that's fair. It is one hundred
percent of police procedural. It's meant to

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be a police procedural. Yeah,
it does not turn out as well.

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It's just not no, it just
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who's played by Belinda Maine, and
we have her boyfriend, Cliff, who

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is played by Jerry Sungwist, and
they are at a Christmas party and Kate's

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father is dresses father Christmas and he
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you know, working with the crowd
and everything, and then all of

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a sudden, a spear comes out
of nowhere kills him, goes to the

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back of his head while he has
a noisemaker or that I can't remember what

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is that what they're calling. It's
the little thing goes yeah out of your

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mouth. Yeah, And that that
kicks off essentially the events of donop So

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Christmas, because then Perdam is called
onto the case with Harris or with Powell,

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and they are trying to figure out
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we have more. The body count
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it keeps going also a strong word, there's almost no rhyme or reason

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like because in the beginning the kills
are so stacked. Yeah, that it's

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confusing. Like there's one scene after
a kill, one scene, right,

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and they're like, oh, we
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and then it's just nighttime. In
another stand is just like existing outside and

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gets murdered. Yep, that is
exactly. But that was something that I

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actually found really amusing. On this
most recent watch was I was like,

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it's not pacede Well, it's just
it just happens really fast. It's based.

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The sound design is probably the worst
thing about this movie. Now,

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before we go further into this,
is this film good? Oh boy?

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No? Is this film great?
Yes? Yes? So I want to

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make that extremely abundantly clear. This
film is so much fun. It is

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absolutely worth your time for the w
t F factor that it is. I

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mean that alone. And there are
a few movies that Dave and I both

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love that are w t F factor
alone, movies like Nightmare City. In

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fact, they're mostly European. They
usually have some strong ties to Italian film

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or Spanish film or what have you. But this is the only one that's

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about Christmas. And when we were
when we were, when we were watching

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it earlier and we were talking about
that, you had mentioned like, I

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feel like I remember everything about this
movie, like almost feel like we don't

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have to watch it. I didn't
say we, alway, we don't have

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to watch it. You felt it. We almost didn't, not that we

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didn't have to. We weren't arguing. You were just sharing your opinion,

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which is oft and wrong, wrong, But no, you were saying,

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like I feel like, we almost
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it so well. And I told
you something that now I think needs to

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be on the record. I coined
the term absurd What was absurdity fatigue?

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Fatigue when you have a movie that
is as batshit as don't Open until Christmas,

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or Nightmare City or Hell of the
Hell of the Living Dead or one

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of those films. Rats Terror Rats
A Night of Terror is another good one.

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I sincerely believe that the human brain
gets this thing that I'm calling absurdity

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fatigue, where you're so overwhelmed by
the absurd scene, absurd scene, absurd

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scene, absurd scene that you remember
the whole film is absurd, but you

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you forget some of them because you
just can't. So you're like, oh,

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yeah, well the music box explodes, man, it's crazy. And

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it's like, but do you remember
Piccadilly Circus and the and the wax Museum

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And you're like, oh, man, dad, the London Dungeon. It's

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literally the movie is so full of
insanity, yeah, that you won't remember

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it all it is. So that's
my point. That's my point is that,

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yeah, it's that you'll sit there
and be like, well, remember

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when the guy get stabbed with the
peep show blah blah blah blah. It's

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like, what about when he falls
off the tower the tower, and you're

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like, oh, yeah, that
blurts you like you're forgetting crazy things.

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That's how insane this movie really is. Yeah, And I mean and that

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and that goes back again to the
fact that they essentially so. Per Dom's

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version of the film, Birkinshaw said, was basically like seven sixty seventy percent

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done, and then he introduced Berknshaw
did the character of Giles Harrison, who

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was played by Alan Lake. Alan
Lake was in Love Story in sixty four,

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he was on The Avengers in sixty
eight, he was in Madigan in

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seventy two, Doctor Hugh in seventy
eight Heart to Heart. This guy was

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a little bit everywhere. He is
our red but also not I mean a

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red herring. I mean, no, he can't be a red herring.

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No, he's just a badly hidden
I guess, Yeah, I guess then

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Perdoma be the red herring. No, per Dome is a massive red herring.

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Yeah, uh spoiler alert. I
think that I think that in this

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film, I think they kind of
based some of per Dome being the red

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herring on Pieces. I could definitely
see that because spoiler on that. But

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like, you know, he's the
bad guy and he's a killer in Pieces.

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Yeah, and sorry, you had
thirty fucking years to watch it forty

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but like, but I think that's
why they keep like kind of hinting that

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per Dome is the killer. Yeah, is because he's the biggest name in

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the movie. He's the guy that
everybody notices when you watch the film.

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Yeah, it's I mean and even
today, like you'll be watching a TV

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show or a movie or something and
you'll see somebody like I'm just random use

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but like you're like, hey,
Edward Norton's in this. I didn't realize

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he was in this. And then
like twenty is, you're like, oh,

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he's the killer because this family I
did, the one that was like,

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oh, Jimmy Smitz, Jimmy Spence, switch Jimmy Smice. But yeah,

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Alan Lake he plays Giles Harrison,
who is supposedly working for a newspaper.

404
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.759
And you'll notice when you watch the
film that Giles shows up immediately and

405
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:14.480
and and like Enrique said, you're
like, oh, well, there's the

406
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:18.400
killer, Like there there is no
high. It doesn't help that he looks

407
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.880
batshit insane from the moment you see
him. You're waiting for him to ask

408
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:29.480
about fava beans and no, I
mean he seriously shows me. She's like,

409
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.480
hello, Yes, I'm Giles.
I work for the news for the

410
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:38.839
newspaper murders. I don't know anything. Hmmm, why didn't it be nice

411
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:44.720
to solve these murders? I mean, so we have Giles Harrison introduced,

412
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:48.480
and right off the bat you can
just tell he is, and in doing

413
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.079
so, with that, Birkenshaw's creation
of him into the story makes it to

414
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:56.119
that all his scenes completely put him, usually not with another character. If

415
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.799
it's only for the one police investigator. He really doesn't interact with anybody else

416
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.680
up for the chick at the peep
show, Yeah he is. He interacts

417
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:08.279
with the chick at the peep show. He interacts with the cops, but

418
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.160
never never predume obviously never well,
and they make it, but they make

419
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.400
a reason for that, so it's
not a cheap thing. The reason he

420
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.039
never interacts with per Dome. So
yeah, he's just kind of in the

421
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.319
periphery. But honestly, it works
as much as it doesn't work as a

422
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:27.720
mystery, it does work as a
storytelling purpose because he doesn't need to be

423
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:33.480
around all the time. He's sprinkled
throughout. And I think, honestly,

424
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.680
what goes into the fact that I
love this movie so much, besides from

425
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.559
its batshitness is it is it's one
hundred percent of Christmas slasher film. We're

426
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.680
in London at Christmas time, we
see Christmas decoration, well, we see

427
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:52.480
weird, not quite right English decorations. The how I love Christmas. I

428
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:57.200
love all of its iterations England it's
it's they're just enough not like us that

429
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:02.920
it's weird. Like you'll look at
the Christmas outfits and they'll have a hood

430
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:04.759
and you're like, a Santa's a
hood. Or they'll be like, you

431
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:08.000
know, have some sherry it's Christmas. You're like, what the fuck is

432
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:12.039
sherry? You know? Or they'll
be they'll wear they wear paper hats on

433
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.319
Christmas and I'm like, that's a
New Year's thing. Why are they doing

434
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:21.200
that. I remember the first time
I noticed English Christmas is weird was in

435
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:23.240
the first Tales from the Crypto Amicist
movie Yeah, from like nineteen seventy something

436
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:29.880
seventy two. Yeah, because that
one, and all through the house there's

437
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.960
this whole part where they're sitting there
with their little cups of sherry and they

438
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.279
have their paper hats on, and
I'm like, what is going on here?

439
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.279
Like I don't understand, this isn't
right but no, but it's it's

440
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:45.279
super Christmas. Yeah, there's tons
of decor. Obviously, there's a lot

441
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:55.039
of people dressed like Santa Claus aka
the cannon Fodder. Yes, because what

442
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.519
it really comes down to is this
is a film about a man killing people

443
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:02.079
dressed like Santa Claus. Yeah,
and more importantly the fact that, for

444
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:07.160
whatever reason, in all of London
no one ever got the memo because people

445
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.799
are just friggin stopping around the streets
of the UK in the Santa go Ahead

446
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.720
like called out here, isn't it
on Father Christmas? I'm fall the Christmas?

447
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:22.000
And then and then they're like what
they get murdered? Do you even?

448
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:36.119
Movie? Will be right back,
welcome back to do you even movie?

449
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.559
And uh, And going into that, we have one beautiful segment that

450
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.640
I do want to discuss because you
may think, like, oh, the

451
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.799
fact he's start targeting memo that's sexist. Don't worry there is. At one

452
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.119
point, we do have a scare
where a woman who is dressed in just

453
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.279
a Santa robe is outside and the
killer finds her, threatens her with the

454
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.160
straight razor and runs away. That's
not true. She's also wearing a pair

455
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.759
of black pants hair of black.
Stop lying to our but no. So

456
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:07.720
Kate and Jerry or not Jerry.
Kate and Cliff are out like out because

457
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.200
Cliff is a flute player for panhandling, so he's just like getting money in

458
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:15.319
the square sometimes and they're out,
yeah, and they're out playing one day

459
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.640
and his old buddy Jerry comes up, who's a photographer, and he decides

460
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.519
that he wants to offer them the
chance to have a photo shoot for Christmas

461
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.240
because his two other models canceled.
So to keep in mind on this,

462
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:29.240
Kate's father has just been murdered,
like what two days ago if that in

463
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:32.839
front of her and everyone, So
any site of a Santa anything is just

464
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.640
triggering to her. So they get
to Jerry's photo shoot which is in his

465
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:42.480
apartment and he's dealing with this one
chick and he pulls out this Christmas robe

466
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.839
and of course it upsets her and
she runs off. So then Cliff is

467
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.720
with this chick and they decide that
they're gonna do some shots, and it

468
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.079
gets to the point where they have
to go outside. They end up getting

469
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.359
locked out. Cliff runs off,
leaving her, and then that's when the

470
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:57.519
killer runs up. But the reason
he runs off is because there's two cops

471
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.920
that are walking the streets. Yes, he has his arms around the chick

472
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:04.319
and he's like, He's like,
oh, she's hitting on him. She's

473
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.240
hitting on him, yeah, And
he sees this the he sees the cops

474
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:08.480
and notices her in the Santa robe
and you can't really tell that she's a

475
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:12.559
woman from the back, so he
gets panicked that he thinks that they're they're

476
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:14.559
gonna be a couple of gazes,
he said, And he's like, they're

477
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:16.519
gonna think we're a couple of gaze
and runs off, leaving her. Well,

478
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:20.039
then she's just naked in the Santa
robe in black panties, so she

479
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.319
runs off down the street to try
and hide from the cops and in doing

480
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.079
so runs into the killer. Nothing
happens, and she ends up going home

481
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:28.920
and is almost arrested for or is
rested for a decent exposure. He gets

482
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:30.119
to go home, and then that's
when per Dome goes to see her the

483
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:34.359
next day, and we have one
of my all time favorite lines, which

484
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.559
is per Dome walks in the apartment
and he's like, you know, you,

485
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:38.960
you should have been more careful.
It was only the circumstance that you

486
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:43.480
got here. You are arrested for
indecent exposure, and she goes, indecent,

487
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:49.839
I'm a professional and just shows yeah, so uh no, no,

488
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:55.680
And that's and that's a good example
of how completely batshit yeah this movie is,

489
00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:00.799
is that you could forget that there's
a whole scene with a nude model

490
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:05.200
under a Santa robe that that gets
basically threatened with a straight razor in the

491
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:09.719
first fifteen minutes but then gets released. Yeah, and uh, the whole

492
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:17.039
uh indecent, I'm a professional.
It's like, no one's trying, that's

493
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:21.480
all I got. No one's trying
to make the sleeves make sense Before that

494
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.400
too. Prodome and and and Pow
also go to her apartment and again like

495
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.039
this is the day after her dad's
been murdered, and she has the line

496
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.880
of my father's just been murdered.
I can't concentrate. There are so many

497
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:37.760
one liners are just so great.
So from there we get into the Santa

498
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.199
kills, and I mean, just
to run down the list we've got,

499
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.880
like I said, a spear through
the head in one of them. One

500
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:46.199
shot is a guy that's dressed in
a Santa suit, smoking a cigarette,

501
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:51.719
roasting some chestnuts and then lo and
behold gets he has he has a chestnut

502
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.000
cart. Yeah, chess. So
he's roasting chestnuts to sell on the street,

503
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:58.880
dressed as Santa and it's only been
three days of Santa Claus is being

504
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:02.599
murdered. You gotta make a living. It's Christmas. A lot of reference

505
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:06.480
to people putting themselves at risk because
they want to go back to work.

506
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.440
Yes, so I don't know if
they were I don't know if that's bad

507
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:12.480
riding or if they were trying to
say something about the economics of London.

508
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.320
Yeah, but a lot of people
are like, well, there's a murderer

509
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:16.639
and they're gonna want to kill you. And it's like, well, I

510
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:21.280
could go back to work though,
right, and all the jobs are public

511
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:22.920
facing jobs. It's not like I
want to go back towards my office.

512
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.039
It's like I'm gonna go back to
work working at like the peep Show on

513
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.239
the corner, and ninety percent at
night too for the most part, like

514
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.760
a lot, Like I think most
the murders are at nights. Well,

515
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:32.840
day and knight are just at will
in this movie, basically it is just

516
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.960
night when it needs to be period. So he's selling his chestnuts. The

517
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.480
guy walks up and I think he
stabs him once and then puts his head

518
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:45.679
onto the chestnut cart. So yes, his skin just completely starts melting away,

519
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:47.760
and then the whole corpse just catches
fire. Well, he pulls his

520
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:52.719
face off and he's covered in burns, and then he just flops the body

521
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:54.840
onto the cart and it just bursts
into flames. Y And going back to

522
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:59.599
the production of this movie, that
poor bastard that had his face decked out

523
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:04.320
with the black makeup for the Chestnut
Murder, he had to take that off

524
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.159
for like three days. They had
to scrub his face to get that all.

525
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:08.840
It took. It took days and
days to get the makeup off or

526
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:13.320
like a twenty second wonder what the
hell they used to fix it? I

527
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.760
mean they had they show it.
They show the whole process in that making

528
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:17.400
of a horror movie. And Dick
Randall even says that his agent called him

529
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:22.199
pissed. I mean, the irony
is that, as you described to me

530
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:28.639
some of the the trivia of this
film, that that that Santa had an

531
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:31.400
agent, but later one of the
Santa's was just a drunken a bar apparently.

532
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:36.599
Yeah, so we have one Santa
that's just stumbling down the street drunk,

533
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:37.840
and then all of a sudden he
ends up walking up to the killer

534
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.400
who just puts the gun barrel in
his mouth and then blows his brains.

535
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:44.679
It shoots his frigging brains out.
So if you're not keeping tracked by this

536
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:46.599
point, that's five deaths in under
like the first twenty minutes of this movie.

537
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:51.039
And some of the deaths have like
a build up in suspense, and

538
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:53.079
then others are just I'm a Santa
Claus, gun in your mouth and brains

539
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:58.960
are all over the place, Like
it really is, bonker, It really

540
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:02.079
really is, and there really is. There's a lot of moments in the

541
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:07.199
movie where I can tell that someone
simply wanted the film done. Oh yeah,

542
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:12.320
because oh yeah. There are multiple
kill scenes where the sound effects just

543
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.880
aren't just start there, like when
the guy catches on fire on top of

544
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.960
the chestnut thing. There's no fire
sound at all, there's no like anything.

545
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.840
To my knowledge, per Dom shot
the chestnut roasting, because they show

546
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:24.679
him on the making of that.
He shot the Sanda that gets killed with

547
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:29.840
the gun, and the I believe
the spear was also him too, So

548
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.719
there could be those pickups that Berkshaw
did, But from my understanding, Berkshaw

549
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:36.800
mainly put Giles into it as much
as he could for the story and also

550
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.920
flushed out a little bit more of
there's a romantic story in this with Kate

551
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.119
and per Dom that's kind of more
towards the end, and then just kind

552
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.440
of gets sighted and absolutely forced in
every way. Yeah. I mean not

553
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:50.840
just because the actors are clearly I
have no chemistry, but I mean like

554
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.400
forced story wise. Yeah, it's
just like and they're into each other.

555
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:55.559
Why not, I don't know,
they've seen each other twice, right,

556
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.239
Yeah. So following the gunshot,
we go then to a peep show where

557
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:06.199
we meet our essential final girl who
is her name Sharon, but she's she's

558
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:10.440
credited as experienced Girl on IMDb.
That checks out and her only other her

559
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:16.119
only other resume was slaughter high mind
you two, Uh I'm gonna get it

560
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:20.599
on the show this day someday.
Don't worry, don't you worry. But

561
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:22.199
anyway, so she works at a
peep show. Her name's Kelly Baker and

562
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:24.800
she's Sharon in the film. She's
working at a peep show and one of

563
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:29.000
the santas ends up stumbling down the
stairs to the peep show and she starts

564
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:30.719
talking to him, and then that's
when the killer comes out and hits him

565
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:34.880
in the neck and kills him,
and the blood sprays onto the glass.

566
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.960
She runs off, and now she's
the witness that we're gonna follow essentially the

567
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:39.639
rest of the movie. Yeah,
yeah, well, which is like maybe

568
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:44.400
thirty men thirty minutes, yeah,
while cutting back and forth between per Dome

569
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:47.960
being weird, yes, and Giles
being weird weirder. Yeah, yeah,

570
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:51.760
yeah. I actually that was one
of the things I was mentioning when we

571
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:58.480
were watching it too. I sincerely
want to know when did the filmmaker.

572
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:04.360
When did the filmmaker think that the
audience figured out Giles was the killer,

573
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:09.400
because it feels like they thought.
We didn't know until the creepy scene where

574
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:13.599
they just show him kill a girl. Yeah, but we knew, like

575
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:17.000
the moment he says, Hi,
I mean i'll give you, I'll give

576
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:21.519
you a break, and say the
second scene he was in the second scene,

577
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:25.400
he was in best case scenario.
That was when people figured it out.

578
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:29.239
So I don't know, I'm really
curious when they thought people figured out.

579
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:30.760
And I mean, for the record
too, Giles is unveiled with like

580
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.320
twenty minutes of movie left still Yeah, yeah, no, they definitely.

581
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.159
Well, but see, there's one
thing I'll say though. Okay, so

582
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.920
there's one thing for the the I
don't know why. I'm not going to

583
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.880
give you a schooling about film storytelling, but it's about friggid don't open until

584
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.880
Christmas this But no, there's an
important thing to keep in mind about suspense.

585
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:55.199
Suspense is all about what you know
and what the characters don't. Yeah,

586
00:39:55.480 --> 00:40:04.320
so having Giles revealed is the killer
to us could then amplify the suspense

587
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.079
when he's in scenes with other characters. True, they did not do that.

588
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:13.119
He's only with the people he's already
planning to kill by then. Yeah,

589
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:17.440
but oftentimes that is the goal.
When you reveal a killer with like

590
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:22.199
twenty minutes left, is that then
the killer is around somebody yeah. I

591
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:27.840
mean, heck, in Babysitter Master
in the movie I directed, I literally

592
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.320
my opinion, the moment you really
know who the killer is is a character.

593
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.599
I don't want to spoil it because
that movie's not forty years old.

594
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:37.440
Yeah, but there's a moment where
a character folds their arms and you realize

595
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:39.760
they're wearing the gloves and the shirts. Yes of the killer. It's a

596
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:43.159
great reveal, thank you. Well, some people don't catch it, so

597
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:45.840
then they don't catch it until the
literal unmask That's kind why I love watching

598
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:50.519
a babysitter masker in a theater is
because sometimes you can audibly hear when people

599
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:54.840
have this yeah ye oh when they
see the gloves, or they won't until

600
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.719
he pulls the mask off. But
no, so, I mean, then

601
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:01.599
you know any other like the moment
he folds his hands, about half the

602
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:05.559
audience is going shit, shit,
shit, shit shit because they know what's

603
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.239
coming. Yeah. So, but
that being said, not really done here.

604
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:13.559
No, I would say that the
film about a third of the film

605
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:15.960
attempts to create suspense, yeah,
and then it just says that fuck it.

606
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.880
I think honestly, the suspense is
best created by the set pieces one

607
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.119
of which we'll get to now,
which is the London Dungeon scene. Yeah,

608
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.840
yeah, that that seems fine.
It's fine, but like I think

609
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:29.119
what I love about it most is
that you you know what's coming, but

610
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:30.599
like you get to use all these
great set pieces and kind of fake it

611
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:36.239
out because there's just wax figures of
corpses and torture and everywhere. So essentially

612
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.440
what happens is there's a Santa that
again a drunk. He comes out of

613
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:43.599
the bar. Almost all of these
Santas are drunk. They are, which

614
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:45.400
I guess checks out. So he
comes out of the pub. He gets

615
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:49.679
on his bicycle and he rides past
these punks who really aren't harassing him.

616
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.039
They're like, hey, Santa,
what's going on, And like he flips

617
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:55.000
them off, and then they go
after him. He crashes his bike.

618
00:41:55.039 --> 00:42:00.760
He goes onto the run and then
he like hides from them and he finds

619
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:02.679
the London Dungeon because he sees the
killers like starting to tail him, so

620
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:07.119
he runs back into the London Dungeon
and that's when he knocks over the secretary

621
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.159
of the dungeon and he goes off
into the dungeon to kind of hide,

622
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.639
secretary run, gets her glasses knocked
off, they gets stopped on by the

623
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:16.079
killer. The killer comes in,
and then it's basically, like I would

624
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:21.199
say, about a five minute not
even chase sequence but just hiding sequence of

625
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.880
him going through the dungeon, the
killer picking up various stabbing implements. Yeah,

626
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:28.159
no, it is. It is
mostly just the character goof the killer,

627
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.239
goofing around. Yeah, so much
so that when we see the corpse

628
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:34.360
of the secretary, you don't even
realize it's her at first, because it's

629
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:36.320
just kind of a set piece of
the dungeon at that point. Well,

630
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:39.119
and because like, who would have
had the time to string and hang her

631
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:43.559
upside down from the ceilings. They
talked to her on making a horror movie

632
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.480
and she said that that was a
shoot that she was not very fond of

633
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:49.719
because she was hanging there for like
forty minutes while they got the shot ready.

634
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.119
Oh cry about it, tell your
union rep. But no. The

635
00:42:54.199 --> 00:43:00.280
London Dungeon scene is also very relevant
because it was the one and only time

636
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.039
that a film was ever allowed to
shoot the London Dungeon. After that,

637
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:07.519
no film cruise further allowed to shoot
inside there. I think it's adorable that

638
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:13.960
we're believing they had permission. That's
that's also Yeah, So from that point

639
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.239
on, that Santa gets killed.
And one thing that Enrique and I realized

640
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:21.760
while watching this is some of the
kills are decent to lazy or just I

641
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:23.039
mean, what what what would you
rite? There are a few good ones.

642
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:29.239
The ones that had that attempted suspense
created it worked really well. Yeah.

643
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:32.599
Uh, the Chestnuts one had suspense. Ye, the London Dungeon one

644
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:36.360
had a decent amount of suspense,
but it was also kind of thrown together

645
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.719
and cobbled together a bit. Uh. But it's not hard to tell which

646
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:42.760
ones they attempted because the ones they
don't attempt. It's just here's a Santa

647
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:46.280
stab stab stab stab. It's like
when we have at the circus ag the

648
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:51.400
Piccadilly Circus going on, and we
go inside the circus with some ad R

649
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.960
that's clearly not the Santa Claus is
talking and stolen shots. Mind she was

650
00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:00.920
hold on and then the Santa's leave
the circus tent to go outside. One

651
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:04.239
gets kicked in the nuts by a
boot knife and then the other one gets

652
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.119
stabbed with a bottle and then gets
stabbed with a bottle again to where the

653
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:08.960
eye just pops out with no sound
effects. Yeah, yeah, he sticks

654
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:13.199
the bottle in his eye, but
it's silent. It's like here you go,

655
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.440
buddy. And then following that,
we have the as you heard in

656
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:22.320
the trailer for the show, we
have starring Carolyn Monroe herself, except what

657
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.199
two minutes well, and all she's
doing is performing a song from I'm guessing

658
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:29.000
her upcoming music career it was,
Yeah, it was her music career at

659
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.119
the time. She performs a song
Warrior of Love. So essentially what happens

660
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:36.519
in this scene is a Santa,
a drunk Santa, wanders into a theater

661
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:38.960
because he thinks that it's where the
party is and he has to run away

662
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:43.679
from the stage guy, and then
the killer ends up following him back into

663
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.480
it. So then he runs down
into the basement where the stage is and

664
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.760
he's running around. Up top,
Cara mon Rowe and her band are going

665
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.920
into Warrior of Love and meanwhile down
below the Santa still being stocked. Now

666
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:55.760
this is where we also don't get
the kill on screen, which happens pretty

667
00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.280
often too. Yeah, that's very
true, because what happens is this was

668
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.239
also another question that brought us when
we were watching this is Carol mon Rose

669
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:06.519
performing. And then you see the
sound guy like, okay, trapdoor,

670
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.360
go ahead, and they raise the
trap door and there's the dead Santa guy

671
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:12.280
with the axe in his face.
What were they putting on that trap door

672
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.199
to begin with? I don't know. It's possible. I guess that the

673
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:20.039
trap door could have been to take
her off stage. But then why not

674
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.199
just have it already waiting for her, Like, yeah, why would you

675
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.199
have it come up so that she
could step on it and lower it down?

676
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.159
I'll tell you something. Let me
tell you something else about show business.

677
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:34.719
Okay, did she write that song? Yeah, she was a part

678
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:36.840
writer on it, that's what she
says, right, right. Yeah.

679
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:42.519
So here's the thing. So you
hire her for affordable day rate for a

680
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.079
day, you make, you make
her look glamorous and awesome as a singer,

681
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:49.719
and you have her sing her own
song. That song is registered with

682
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:53.360
either ask CAP or b M I
or uh yeah, and I might have

683
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.960
said the wrong name whatever as CAP
I think is right? Well, ASKAP

684
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.679
is definitely right. No, it's
BMI bm's right. And I've done this

685
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:06.199
so I know this. When you
register I register the askap. When the

686
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:12.440
film plays places, the song is
listed on the que sheet. So if

687
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:16.159
it ever airs on television or gets
licensed for something or whatever, you get

688
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:20.920
residuals. Okay, that's why it's
a good deal for her, because it

689
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:23.239
promoted her song. Yeah, if
it airs on television, she gets residuals.

690
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.519
And that's a real thing. It
airs on regular television, you get

691
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:28.599
residuals. It may not be a
lot, but back then it was a

692
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:32.079
lot. More So, it's really
just kind of a perfect like little well.

693
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.159
And she's a grab at this point
for a name, which is why,

694
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.639
of course she's featured in the trailer, because by this point nineteen sixty

695
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.280
seven is Casino Royale. The Abominable
Doctor fives in seventy one, Doctor Five's

696
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:44.679
rises again in seventy two, Captain
Kronos a vampire hunter in seventy four,

697
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.000
The Spy You Love Me in seventy
seven, Star Crash in seventy eight,

698
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:52.000
Maniac in eighty, The Last Horror
Film in eighty two, Slaughter High in

699
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:53.719
eighty six, Faceless in eighty eight, and The Black Cat in eighty nine.

700
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:58.400
So I mean, even before Slaughter
High and Faceless, she was still

701
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:00.599
a big name at this she was
a deafly declining if she did this film

702
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:06.360
and then Slaughter High, so she
was definitely on her way out. I'm

703
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:12.960
just saying, uh, do you
even movie? Will be right back,

704
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:28.400
welcome back to do You Even movie? So this is the same year as

705
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:30.159
A Last Horror Film, which is
one that you and I watched recently as

706
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.119
well, and that actually kind of
was her tail end to horror to where

707
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.079
she basically just did bit roles from
that point. That was quite quite a

708
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.880
thing, a film, quite an
experience. Yeah, Severn just released it.

709
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.960
If you haven't seen Last Horror Film
aka A Maniac two aka a fanatic

710
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:47.480
highly recommend, really really fun movie
just for the con the cons film festival

711
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:54.199
star. Yeah, but no can
can. So we have that happened with

712
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:58.519
Carol Monroe. Then we get probably
one of the most famous murders in the

713
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:00.519
film, which is we have an
apartment star Santa that's finished up his shift.

714
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:05.119
He's shopping, he goes down to
use the lavatory, and then the

715
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:08.119
killer sneaks in and just hacks off
his dick as he's taken a pit and

716
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:15.519
just it's just one fluid motion and
much like at the beginning of the film,

717
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:19.079
people don't scream when they're being murdered
in London, which makes me wonder

718
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:23.079
just what the blitz Creak did to
those people, because in in the beginning,

719
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:27.480
when when the spear goes through the
guy's head, yeah and he dies

720
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:32.800
it for everybody, they all literally
they go like oh oh. They react

721
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:37.440
like you shit yourself in front of
them. They don't react like you've been

722
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.320
murdered. There's no screaming, there's
no faint. You even said, You're

723
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:44.199
like, why are they wincing?
Yeah, They're all just like oh Lord.

724
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.639
Like one person looked like they were
like oh great. Like one person

725
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:50.559
like put their hand on their head
and like turned down. I was like

726
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:53.039
like when Prnom was directing that scene
was He's just like, okay, and

727
00:48:53.079 --> 00:49:02.079
now you found out your cat has
diabetes cut print, I'm drunk it is

728
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:07.159
And that's the final Santa kill of
the movie because then we basically get the

729
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:10.679
reveal of what is going on and
spoiler alert once again. Giles is actually

730
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:15.079
the brother of Perdam's character. He
had a very traumatic incident when they were

731
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:20.159
kids to where he got a They
do a flashback where you see He gets

732
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.840
a nice little Swiss army knife for
Christmas and he's celebrating. Father Christmas brings

733
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.480
it and he's just stabbing the air
with it and playing with the cork skirts

734
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:31.400
and then his mom sends him off
to bed. He goes up to the

735
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:36.480
bedroom and finds his brother still or
his father still dressed, his father Christmas

736
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.320
having an affair with another woman.
The mother comes up. He shoves the

737
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:43.719
mother down the steps, so we
assume that she dies because she screams and

738
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:46.800
then doesn't move again. And then
he also like shoves Giles aside. He

739
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:51.519
incapacitated her so that she couldn't stop
him from killing his father. Yeah,

740
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:57.239
and so consort, Yeah, I
love that term consort consort. And Giles

741
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.000
is just standing on the staircase playing
with like just holding knife and just angrily,

742
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.360
and then it cuts to Perdome waking
up. So what you find out

743
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:06.440
is Giles is the brother of Perdome. He was sent to a sanitarium.

744
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.760
Shortly after that he got out.
Per Doome's been visiting him for years and

745
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:13.760
years and years out of guilt,
and now he's secretly posing as this newspaper

746
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:16.159
guy. But he's the killer who's
killing off Santa's because he wants Predomed to

747
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:21.320
have this case that he basically can't
solve, and it's never explained if he's

748
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.280
actually somebody who works for the newspaper. Yeah, because there's a part of

749
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:27.360
the same we called and they don't
know anything about you. But then he

750
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.840
shows him a newspaper and his name
is on an article. So but that

751
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:34.440
name is his real name, because
they have that whole part where it turns

752
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.719
out Harris changed his name to Harry
Harrison from Harrison. Yeah. So but

753
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:44.320
uh, but before we get into
the needy, greedy, thrilling conclusion of

754
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:46.800
don't open until Christmas, I want
to mention I feel like we glossed over

755
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:52.159
too quickly the peep show kill Oh
okay, okay, because this is one

756
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:54.840
of the this is like to me, this is the scene that defines the

757
00:50:54.840 --> 00:51:00.360
film. Yeah. Absolutely, We
see a department store, Santa Claus not

758
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.920
drunk, not drunk, No,
just British, just British. We see

759
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:07.679
us a department store. Santa Claus
go into a peep show and he picks

760
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.199
up the phone and this girl starts
talking to him. The dialogue in this

761
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.000
scene is super offbeat. It is
and I mean that with love. Yeah.

762
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:19.000
Like he comes in and he's like, I've never been to a place

763
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.920
like this before. She's like me, neither, It's completely new to me.

764
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:24.920
And you know, she's lie.
She's like, well, you know,

765
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:30.119
their job is to create a fantasy. So then he's like, you

766
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:31.880
know, he's like, I live
with my mother and work at the you

767
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:35.280
know whatever. And she's like,
oh, I live with my mother too,

768
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:37.480
And he's like, well, you
know, how does she feel about

769
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:37.960
you doing? Does you know what
you do for a living, And she's

770
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:42.280
like she owns the place. She's
just making stuff up to make the guy

771
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:46.280
go like whoa you know. And
so as they're starting to heat things up

772
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.960
and she's saying like drop another five
and I'll take off my top, and

773
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.519
there's a plexan yeah blast between them. Then all of a sudden, he

774
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:59.360
gets stabbed and blood sprays all over
it. Now she is established as a

775
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:01.519
character that get to follow the rest
of the movie, which is not long

776
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:05.400
as we said, It was about
thirty minutes away from the ending. So

777
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:07.559
then she goes to the police department. The police are like, hey,

778
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:12.360
you saw the killer's face. He's
gonna come back for you, so,

779
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:14.480
which is weird because it's like,
why did he come back? I didn't

780
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:15.559
he just kill her? Then,
but he's like, they're gonna he's gonna

781
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:17.760
come back for you. And she's
like, oh, I just want to

782
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:21.159
go to work. Can I go
to work? And they're like no,

783
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:22.760
no, because the killer's gonna come
for you. Yeah, So then what

784
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.679
does she do? She goes back
to work. Whip, She goes back

785
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:29.960
to work, and the killer comes
for her at the work and it just

786
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:34.239
so the killer breaks through the glass
kidnaps her. So now it breaks very

787
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:37.280
easily through the ground he put it
out because he just like puts his hands

788
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:38.800
through it and it just shatters.
Yeah. Yeah, it was like Jason

789
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:45.440
voorhe's in part three. But so
now she's she's been kidnapped, Yeah,

790
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:49.119
and by the guy who we all
know is Giles, but apparently we're not

791
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:52.480
supposed to know he's Giles, only
showing his mouth even though he does not

792
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:58.440
do anything to hide his voices.
No, So then when she is captive

793
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:00.719
and they reveal its Giles and then
he's interacting with her. Even then the

794
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:05.360
interactions are weird. She does not
seem to understand he's going to kill her,

795
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:08.199
even though he says it well and
she's confused by even though she's she's

796
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:15.159
literally watched him murder someone. What
is like, you know, uh uh

797
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:16.880
you saw me murder someone? You
saw my face? Oh god, what

798
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:23.599
are you gonna do? I'm knighting, Madam lieber Stock, Like, like,

799
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:28.440
what what did you think was gonna
happen? He's gonna freaking off you?

800
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:30.880
And why is he keeping you?
Probably because he's a pervert, but

801
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:35.480
you know, I'm not here to
make assumption. But even when he kidnaps

802
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:37.559
her, he even says it's because
she sells her body that she doesn't have

803
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:40.559
respect. He saw my face,
yeah, the big one. But yeah,

804
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:43.800
but then he says, like,
you're just like all of all of

805
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:45.760
them, all the women. You
sell your body, you sell it,

806
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:50.320
you sell piece by piece. He
has a whole monologue that's honestly pretty well

807
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.920
delivered. The guy who plays Giles
is good, is phenomenal, He's good.

808
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:57.559
So but uh but I just want
to mention that. So then when

809
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.480
when she escapes, yeah, okay, well let's back up. Okay,

810
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:05.280
okay, So the whole movie,
Kate is trying to figure out obviously what's

811
00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:07.159
going on, and she knows that
something is up with Perdam's character, like

812
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:12.440
she knows that Inspector Harris just has
something involved in this that he's sexy.

813
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:17.199
So they end up sharing a nice
Christmas dinner together because she finds out that

814
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:21.480
he's been going to Parkland, which
is a sanitarium. She goes to visit

815
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:22.960
it. We don't see any of
that except her going into it sitting,

816
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.599
and then that's it, so we're
kind of left as viewers of what's going

817
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:29.480
on. So then she goes to
this nice dinner with per Dome, and

818
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:32.440
not really anything happens except Cliff catches
them and goes off angrily. She goes

819
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:37.079
back to her apartment and Giles has
broken in, and he's still given the

820
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:38.280
whole thing of oh, well,
I work for the newspaper and I'm just

821
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:43.159
here to ask questions. Well,
then she realizes that he's the brother,

822
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:45.639
because she's put two and two together. At this point, she knows that

823
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:47.559
he's changed his name from Harrison.
She knows that Perdome has a brother.

824
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:52.440
So then the phone goes to ring
because Pal's calling her, so Giles just

825
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.519
straights up, strangles her, then
kills her. And then that still strangles

826
00:54:55.519 --> 00:55:00.480
her and then stabs stabs her brutal
yea, so very brutally. So then

827
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:02.639
Powell goes to her apartment because she
doesn't pick up the phone, finds the

828
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:07.440
body. He calls the rest of
the inspectors because they've been supposed to watch

829
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:08.239
for Dome and they're like, well, he hasn't left his apartment all night,

830
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:12.559
which is bullshit because they went to
dinner. So that's a lie,

831
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:19.280
yeah, or bad writing could have
been a lie, yes, So so

832
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.880
then Powell decides that he's going to
tail Giles, so he find he tails

833
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:25.800
him to this auto yard and he's
trying to get after him, and then

834
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:30.679
Giles ends up bringing this card that
he's searching to shuck and kill Powell,

835
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:34.760
so Pal dies from electrocution. Giles
goes back to and a pretty big cop

836
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:37.559
out of it. Yeah, a
lot of sparks, a lot of sparks

837
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.800
in Giles. So he goes back
to Sharon and he's like, you know,

838
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:44.639
I'm gonna kill you at Christmas time, and she's trying to, like,

839
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:46.079
you know, get him to warm
up to the idea of Christmas and

840
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:50.639
bringing back memories and and doing so
distracts him grabs a board, hits him,

841
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.400
and this is our prostitute hero.
Yeah, who just starts saying Christmas

842
00:55:53.400 --> 00:56:01.880
goose, I'm pudding and very light, which which I love because it doesn't

843
00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:08.239
make any sense why she would know
that Christmas ephemera makes him so angry.

844
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:14.079
She doesn't. She just starts rattling
us off. Now, maybe she noticed

845
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.519
the way he reacted to one thing, so she just kept saying him,

846
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:20.239
I'm gonna give the benefit of the
doubt with the doubt. But yeah,

847
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.840
So now she hits him with a
board, gets out and runs up these

848
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.920
stairs and john because he's unchained her
so she can eat her food. Yes,

849
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:29.480
he brings her repair. Yes,
how can I forget? Yeah?

850
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:42.960
Yep, do you even? Movie? Will be right back? Welcome back

851
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:49.760
to do you even movie? The
unchained her. She hits him with the

852
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.559
board, runs out the door,
and he is like, she doesn't the

853
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:54.679
door is locked? Oh the doors
lock? Yeah, because he says,

854
00:56:54.840 --> 00:57:00.599
I need the key to the door. Key. She's either she's either just

855
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:05.119
in general or she's asking him for
the like asking him where the key is?

856
00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:07.400
I mean, she does say where
is the key, turns around and

857
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:08.000
looks at him, and he pulls
it out of his pocket, like,

858
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:10.599
oh, here it is, I've
had it this entire time. Oh this

859
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:14.840
key. How did I know you
had the key? I guess because you

860
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:16.519
live here something. She runs up
to him, gets the key, hits

861
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:20.480
him again, gets out the door, and then they're in the basement of

862
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:22.119
like this three story building. So
they just go running up the steps.

863
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.400
Giles is knocking the chain against the
railing tailing her. They get to the

864
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:29.639
top of the steps, he's cornered
her where there's no place to run,

865
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:34.519
and then she he swings the chain
over the railing. She grabs it,

866
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:39.599
pulls the chain and launches Chiles off
this three story staircase to the bottom.

867
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:45.920
Yeah, and I know what you're
thinking, clearly Giles is dead. Well,

868
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:49.800
she returns to Giles' body for some
fucking reason, which I still don't

869
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.320
understand. I mean, I guess
you would want to confirm the killer's dead.

870
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:54.800
I guess, yeah. But she
had to pass by him to go

871
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:58.800
down the stairs out the door,
though, So Giles comes back to you

872
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:00.800
screaming, and then we cut the
dome. Who's having trouble sleeping in bed.

873
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.719
He has the dream that is the
flashback of Giles catching his father cheating

874
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:08.079
and killing the mother, and then
per Dome goes out to his living room

875
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:12.000
and this is the ending scene of
the film. He lights a cigarette,

876
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:14.840
and the beginning of the film,
he received a package that said don't open

877
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:16.239
till Christmas. We see a mail
carrier bring it to him, and then

878
00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:19.960
we just see the package sit the
rest of the movie. So he picks

879
00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:22.599
it up. He sees a note
that says from your loving brother. He

880
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:25.800
opens it up. It's a music
box that has a Santa spinning and playing

881
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:30.559
jingle, and so he goes to
light a cigarette. He's sitting down.

882
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:37.039
The music box finishes and then blows
up, it just on his mantle.

883
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:43.960
It explodes massively, and the way
the scene is shown is the best part.

884
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:51.239
It explodes and he just kind of
goes sees some makeup because apparently when

885
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:53.760
they blew up the thing, he
didn't turn the way he was supposed to.

886
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:59.239
So he falls over and before he's
even done falling over to the ground,

887
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.000
credits fade in. It's like we're
done, guys, we're done.

888
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:09.039
The movie's over. That's it Christmas. So that my friends is don't open

889
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:13.880
until Christmas. From nineteen eighty four, and I mean, wow, I

890
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:16.000
just I love this movie. You
know, it's so much fun. And

891
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:20.599
I know we spent a lot of
time picking on the film, but it's

892
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:25.800
because of these massive, glaring,
unrelenting flaws that I love this movie and

893
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:29.559
watch it almost every Christmas. Yeah. Well, and there's just there's just

894
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.440
those little cheeky moments, like we
we forgot to mention that Giles before he

895
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:35.599
unchained Sharon, He's like, you're
not going to scape, are you?

896
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:37.079
And She's like, I won't.
And then the camera just has to show

897
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:44.920
she crosses her fingers. She's an
adult woman lying to save her life and

898
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:50.599
she has to cross her fingers.
It's and this is see but this is

899
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:57.320
guys, this is absurdity fatigue.
We can't we just guys, we just

900
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:01.840
watch this film, like we just
we just shut the movie off and came

901
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:07.079
in here and recorded, yes,
we do, and we were forgetting ridiculous

902
01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:12.800
details because that's how outrageous. Don't
open until Christmas is and I mean it

903
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:14.960
goes, it goes without showing that. Like we said, this movie was

904
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:16.679
a trouble production, and I feel
like I have a lot of charm for

905
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:21.760
trouble productions because it's just charm for
trouble production. I mean, I just

906
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:23.840
I find them charming in regards of
the fact we still get the movie.

907
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:27.280
Yeah. No, I agree.
There are a few good examples. Devil's

908
01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:30.760
Time Devil times five, Yes,
is a really good example of a troubled

909
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:34.320
movie that turned out really fun.
Yeah, and there are big mainstream examples

910
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:36.039
too. I can't think of any
off the top of my head. I

911
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:38.000
mean, I just did a podcast
with our good buddy Birdman over this week

912
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:40.719
in Geek on the Maniac Cop series, and Maniac Cop three is one of

913
01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:45.119
the most I think infamous troubled productions
for Yeah. Yeah, So, I

914
01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:47.880
mean it's just the fact that we
have this movie. We have a great

915
01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:51.679
release of it now too, with
a bunch of bonus features, And I

916
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:55.880
mean it's a perfect holiday slasher film
if you're looking for one that's just pure

917
01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.719
entertainment. I mean, I would
say, you don't want to watch it

918
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:01.239
by yourself, you want to watch
it with a group of friends so you

919
01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:06.119
could have a laugh. But yeah, yeah, I agree. So in

920
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:09.760
final thoughts, I just I'm gonna
give this a stream It rating. We

921
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:13.519
have three ratings on do even movie, we have stream it, rent it,

922
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:16.039
or buy it. I'm gonna give
this a stream it because I think

923
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:21.199
it's just one that unless this is
in your wheelhouse of holiday slashers or just

924
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:22.480
slashers in general, I don't really
think it's gonna be one you just want

925
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.239
to go out and buy it immediately. Yeah, I would have to agree

926
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:28.280
with that. If I was gonna
give it a rating, it would be

927
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:30.440
a stream it as well. Yeah, with a caveat that. If you

928
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:37.360
are a big movie nerd weirdo who
likes to watch offbeat things every year,

929
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.480
you know, if you if you're
somebody who you know watches Silent Night Deadly

930
01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:45.079
Night every year like I do,
then you probably want to own it.

931
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:50.280
Yes, But that being said,
I mean with the ease you can stream

932
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:53.239
it, you may as well stream
it absolutely So that's my opinion too.

933
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:58.280
And if you want an extra recommendation, if don't know until Christmas is enough

934
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:00.159
isn't enough for you? I do
have one that I'm gonna bring to the

935
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:05.440
table and get ready, Enrika,
Oh no, I know what it's gonna

936
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:09.440
be. To All A Good Night
nineteen eighty directed by David Hesse of Last

937
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:12.679
House on the Left and House on
the Edge of the Park. This is

938
01:02:12.679 --> 01:02:15.239
a film about a group of girls
at a finishing school that are planning a

939
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:17.800
party during Christmas break at their house, but their past comes back to haunt

940
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:21.840
them in the form of a killer
dressed is Santa Claus. It's a fun

941
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:24.599
one. I am glad I actually
could see it, Yeah, because the

942
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.440
first time I watched it, all
the night scenes were too dark to make

943
01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:30.920
out what was happening. The blu
ray that came out you can actually tell

944
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:37.800
what's happening anymore. But I think
it's a perfect pairing. Well. Yeah,

945
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.880
the only problem with that movie,
or not problem even one of the

946
01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:44.480
things I like the most about about
an all through the House Yeah, or

947
01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:47.119
there was that to Algan to All
the Night, Yeah, confusion. One

948
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:52.960
of my favorite things about twa al
Good Night is that it is so recklessly

949
01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:59.000
and shamelessly derivative. It is just
like ripping off Happy Birthday, to be

950
01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:02.920
wrapping off April fully, ripping off
just any slasher movie, but weirdly none

951
01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:07.239
of the successful ones. No,
it's like ripping off the ones that people

952
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:10.760
like. Now. I don't know
why, but but that is that is

953
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:15.880
the experience you get with that film. Yeah, it's not as outrageous.

954
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.480
Honestly, the funniest thing in that
whole movie for me is that two of

955
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:21.480
the guys are supposed to be in
high school and they look like they're like

956
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:24.599
forty five or not. Ually,
when you recognize this couple of porn stars

957
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:28.639
that appeared, well, I mean
they're like Jamie Gillis and stuff and and

958
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.760
Harry Reims isms. Yeah, yep, so no, I think that's a

959
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:37.039
decent recommendation. I would also recommend
Silent Night Bloody Knight, yes, because

960
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:40.280
it is good. It's it's a
pretty good movie, but it's it's it's

961
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:46.519
available everywhere. It's pretty Christmas y
yea very low budget, but it has

962
01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:50.360
a charm to it that I think
works. But there I don't know if

963
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:52.639
there is a Christmas movie this insane
other than like Silent Night Deadly Night too.

964
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:57.000
And I think to piggyback off you
in regards to Silent Ie Bloody Night,

965
01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.239
I love the gothic nature of it
with the big house. Yeah,

966
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:04.239
it does have gothic element institutions super
Oh so that's a fun one. Yeah,

967
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:06.800
I agree, I would agree with
that. I think that is what

968
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:11.159
I've got to say, final thoughts
on the tone of Christmas? Do you

969
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:19.320
have any, sir? Uh?
I guess my final thought on don up

970
01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:24.079
until Christmas is, no matter how
many bear breasts you can pay for,

971
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:30.719
no matter how many explosions and squibs
you could throw at the audience, when

972
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:35.639
you just truly lack an understanding of
the human minds the way these people did.

973
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:40.159
Like it's like when people watch The
Room and they're like, it feels

974
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.320
like it was written by somebody from
another planet. That's how Steve sometimes how

975
01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:45.079
these movies feel. They feel like
they were assembled by an alien race.

976
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:49.239
Yeah, that only understands us from
like watching The Flintstones. Yeah, so

977
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:55.000
that's my final thought. Other than
that, I think it's totally worth watching

978
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:58.519
at least once in your holiday viewing
easily to find right now. Like we

979
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:00.719
said, the Blu ray is available
from Vincent, and it's available lots of

980
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:03.199
places in the stream. You can
find it just about anywhere anywhere. So

981
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:06.599
yeah, make sure you check out
dont on Christmas nineteen eighty four, directed

982
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:13.800
by Edmund Perdom and Alan Bergshaw.
Apps absolutely, and that is our first

983
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:16.719
Christmas recommendation, and we have many
more to go. Oh, there's always

984
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:20.960
more, my DearS. So,
but before we get out of here,

985
01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:25.360
I want to say thank you to
everybody who checked out our first two episodes

986
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:28.400
This looks Good, Kill in Planes, Trains and Automobiles. They were really

987
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:30.280
fun episodes to do. And thank
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988
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:34.599
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989
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:39.679
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990
01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:43.559
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991
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992
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993
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:53.800
around us or something. You can
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994
01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:58.599
gmail dot com or contact us at
the website. And next week's show,

995
01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:02.639
we're going to be covering a film
that we discovered that I feel like not

996
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:06.519
enough other people have discovered, called
Mercy Christmas. Yes, it is a

997
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:12.079
indie movie for my I think twenty
seventeen, seventeen, and it is a

998
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:15.000
it's a strange one, it's a
fun one and I wish more people had

999
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:18.480
seen it. I think it barely
has sixty reviews on Amazon. It deserves

1000
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:23.280
a lot more attention, so we're
going to tell you all about it next

1001
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:27.519
week. But until then, all
of you be well, stay whatever,

1002
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.719
and don't dress to Santa Claus in
love for good. So let me just

1003
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:35.480
take the Santa head off. We'll
see you guys next week. Next week,