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Scary stories, urban legends, haunted places, cryptids and dark folklore with Henrique Couto. New nightmares throughout the week. Halloween all year long.
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Sept. 28, 2026

Monthly Spooky | Halloween Countdown: Ghost Stories & Midnight Spook Shows

Monthly Spooky | Halloween Countdown: Ghost Stories & Midnight Spook Shows
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Haunted Places Halloween

Halloween ghost stories meet the lost world of midnight spook shows. Henrique Couto and Michelle explore the glowing ghosts, stage illusions and blackout scares that turned movie theaters into haunted attractions. Then dig into a claimed Loch Ness Monster sighting, ghost rumors in Indian schools, a Polish 'vampire' burial and a Bigfoot mystery with a human explanation. A creepy roadside encounter rounds out this Monthly Spooky hangout. Join us for paranormal mysteries, cryptids, vampire folklore and horror history as we count down to Halloween. What would you see when the theater lights go out?

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More scary stories: https://weeklyspooky.com/
Story submissions: WeeklySpooky@gmail.com

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Tiny bats, ghosts in the school, a 300-year-old vampire grave unearthed,

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a cat burglar at large, and spook shows taking the

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nation by storm.

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Get comfortable.

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Turn off the lights. It's Monthly Spooky.

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Monthly Spooky.

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Hello my spookies and welcome back because as you know

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it is that time of the month. It's time for

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Monthly Spooky. I'm of course your host Enrique Couto here

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with my good buddy and co-host Michelle. Michelle, how are you?

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I don't know. I don't know.

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I try not to hit you with like the big

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questions right off the bat. I apologize. I should have

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given you time to prepare. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Sorry about that. It's okay. We are right on

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the cusp of spooky season beginning. No?

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Oh, no. We totally are. There was just a thing

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on my screen and I was trying to click it away.

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I feel like you're just sitting there like, uh? Uh,

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but we are, we're on the cusp of Halloween. Halloween

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is going to be here and then, or well, October

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is going to be here in a minute, moment in moments.

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And we have a cool opportunity because we'll have a

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show right before Halloween as well. And I have something

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very special planned that I don't want to spoil. I

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don't want anyone to know about it in advance, but

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especially not Michelle. Oh, okay. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's one of those. Sorry, pal. But today, I don't

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know how things are in Killadelphia, but here in sunny Dayton, Ohio,

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it's actually not sunny. It is 62 degrees outside.

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Oh, wow. I mean, that's how it is going to

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be here tomorrow.

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It actually feels quite a bit like fall. Like I

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went out to do my cold plunge, which... I, when

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it's not even vaguely warm outside, boy, it hits different. I, I, I,

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I didn't quite think it would matter. I mean, like,

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I didn't think it would matter like when it's 78

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degrees versus 60 because the water's the same temperature. But no,

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I was like, wow, I was really struggling to survive

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that plunge. Yeah. But it's been an eventful, uh, month prior. Um,

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I turned 40. And that was very exciting. Although, from

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what I understand, it would have happened whether I did

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anything or not.

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You don't know that.

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That's fair. You'll never know. Yeah, damn right. I immediately,

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a week later, found out that I need progressive lenses

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in my glasses. So that was, you know, right in

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the nick of time. Yeah. To keep my ego in check.

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So I'm grateful for that.

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Well, you gotta like... You got to like work for

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that midlife crisis. It's got to be like.

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Yeah, really?

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Yeah.

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I got a new car for the first time in

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12 years and my first time getting a new, entirely

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new car. That's been really cool. I still haven't used

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the park itself function. Good. But I use all the

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weird sensors to park instead.

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Gross.

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So I can like see a bird's eye view of

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the car as I'm pulling in and stuff. Yeah, it

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upsets you, and that's good. That's what we want. We

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want you to be mad about it. But that's been

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really cool, getting to drive around in it and kind

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of get to know the car. I took it on

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a drive and used the feature that assists your driving,

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and it is really good, if I'm honest.

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Great, great.

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Well, the trick is, Chell, I figured it out. It

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took a few drives. The trick is just pretend you're

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still driving and you won't, like, just drive. And you'll

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realize that it's just doing work. Like, you're just doing less.

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But you're still, like, watching the road. If you see

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a curve, you're still kind of moving your arms. It's

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just since it's moving too, you're not really doing as much.

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Why would that be good? Why would I want to

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do less things?

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Because then you could relax a little bit.

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I'm already relaxing when I'm driving.

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No, you're not.

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Yes, I am.

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Then why has it been so long since you've driven

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out to date in Ohio? It's not even that far.

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Because I don't have any money or time.

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Ah, see, so you had to pull the time because

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you knew I'd be like, I'll send you money.

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I know, yeah.

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Please be my friend. Please. But it really, I did

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notice it really reduces fatigue. Like just the driving related fatigue.

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I know you want to be fatigued. But you're already fatigued.

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What's your point? You want more? Yeah.

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I want to feel like I did some work. God

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damn it.

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Okay. Okay. Jeez. Well, it's been cool. Also, I drove

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through a torrential downpour, and I was shocked that it

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actually functioned very well during it. I was not expecting

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it to, and I wasn't like... I had my hands

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firmly on the wheel, paying attention, because I was like,

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this is probably going to fail, and I'll need to stay,

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and then I'll turn it off. And it didn't. I

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drove the whole way like that. It was really... keeping

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me in the lane and keeping me my distance from

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the other cars. Uh, the amount I told it to,

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it did a really good job. So I was actually pretty,

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pretty stoked. I can't wait to go on a really

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long drive with that, that setup, especially like at night or,

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or during the day when there's just no other cars,

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it's really easy to just sit there and just kind

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of drive and you're barely doing anything. I don't know.

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It's a, it's a brand new Prius. So, but the

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new Prius looks so sporty that I can make the joke.

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Like this is my, my, uh, midlife crisis car and

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then be like but it's a prius so actually i

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don't think that counts it counts per se does it

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yeah okay good good because i was worried i was

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like i don't have to get another car it was

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already big enough pain buying a car so you know

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that's but that's what i've been up to and of

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course preparing for the spooky season which is always a

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big to do for me and uh, for the show

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this year, weekly spooky is going to be delivering so

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many interesting bonus shows because as you know, now we're

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publishing seven days a week. So that means we're going

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to be publishing multiple days a week, more than once. Wow.

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That's going to be, cause we're not going to preempt,

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you know, this week in horror history or Thursday thrills

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or terrifying and true. We're not going to preempt anything.

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So you'll get what you're, what you would normally expect,

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but then you'll get sometimes a bonus show that may be, um,

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We're going to have David DeNoyer back on to talk

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about Halloween movie picks. We're going to have a folklorist

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named Cass Minter on to talk about some of her

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favorite deep dive folklore stuff.

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That's cool.

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And that one's really cool because she's written books on folklore.

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So having like a full blown folklorist, not like I'm

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a folklorist because I research on the internet and talk

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about it on TikTok, which I should probably bring that

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up too. Um, But I'll get to that in a second.

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But yeah, so we have an immense amount of cool

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stuff coming to Weekly Spooky. So I really, you know,

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be subscribed if somehow you're not already. But in October,

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I can't say when yet because I don't know, but

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we're working on a Weekly Spooky app for your phone.

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Oh.

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Now, I remember there was an era when every podcast

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had this app, which was just kind of a turnkey app.

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that someplace made. And it basically just was subscribing to them. Basically,

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this is going to go beyond that because it's going

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to be, it's a free app, but what it'll do

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is if you're a big fan of weekly spooky, if

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you're a regular listener and you want a more personalized experience,

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This app will allow you to not only subscribe to

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the podcast and get the episodes as they release, but

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you'll be able to do things like set push notifications

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for specific shows on Weekly Spooky, like Terrifying and True.

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That's cool.

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This Week in Horror History. Yeah. You'll be able to

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set that. You'll also be able to see customized episodes. Setups, like,

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you'll be able to subscribe to push notifications for ghost

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stories or werewolf stories or vampire stories.

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Oh, wow.

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Or specific authors. Wow. We're still developing a lot of it.

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So I believe all of those promises will come true, though,

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because it's been going very smoothly.

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Is it going to be, like, super, super, like, niche? So, like,

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you could set it for, like... You know, like I

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didn't come up with anything like the protagonist is a

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woman under 25, stuff like that.

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We'll see. You never know. And it'll have curated playlists

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for people who just want to put something on. It'll

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have a sleep timer. We're working on that. It should

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have a sleep timer as well. So if you want

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to listen to a long list of them while you're

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going to sleep, you'll be able to make it not

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play all night. That's cool. Lots of cool features. I

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wouldn't be shocked if it's out the first week of October.

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It's going really well, at least on iPhone. Android actually

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takes longer to get published on, which I thought it

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would be the opposite. So we're still developing it. I'm literally,

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when we're done recording this, I'm going to go test

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it some more and try to shibbity shank it up some.

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But it works great. The big challenge was having it play,

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but then also when you lock your phone, it keeps playing.

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And then when you unlock your phone, it keeps playing.

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And then the thing we just beat was shutting the

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app off entirely and turning it back on and it

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going back to the place you were listening.

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Oh, good.

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At least relatively.

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Yeah.

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Mean, it'll be close. So I'm really amped about it.

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I came up with this idea just a few weeks

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ago and I was like, wouldn't it be cool to

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have an app that just made Weekly Spooky even more,

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you know, easy to navigate? And, you know, so you

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could do things like I want to listen to just

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Christmas stories or I want to listen to just Halloween

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stories or Thanksgiving stories. There, there'll be a lot of

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ways you can kind of customize your experience. And I'm really,

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I'm amped about it, to be honest, and also scared

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that this is going to lead to many more apps

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and games. Cause once the genie is out of the bottle,

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you know, it, uh, it really is out of the bottle.

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I guess. Yeah. Yeah. I know your excitement is palpable

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and I appreciate that. Yeah.

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No, I just, everything sounded good and then it was

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games and it's like, oh.

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I mean, I don't, I'm not saying there'll be weekly

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spooky games. I'm saying like I might throw some of

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my free time into seeing if I could make a

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game just to see.

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Oh, okay. I mean, I just, I'm at the point

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right now where like every commercial that's on my TV

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is for gambling games and I'm like stressed.

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Out about it. So you're saying I should do a gambling. Wait,

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why are you stressed out? You're not even gambling.

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They're terrible commercials and it's a lot. Um, yeah, I'm

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saying make a gambling game. It looks like it's really

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easy and it looks like they mostly use AI for things.

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So there you go. Just make one and take everybody's money.

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Well, I'll tell you, and this is not a promise

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that this will exist, but I've thought about doing, cause

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you know, like this one's a free app, but maybe

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doing like a pay app. That's not very expensive of

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like a choose your own adventure. Spooky app. And that

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would take an immense amount of work on the writing

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side more than anything. But I have thought about like,

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wouldn't it be cool to do like Choose Your Own Adventure?

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Like maybe like a Strickfield Choose Your Own Adventure thing

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because Rob is such a. He has that whole world

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to play with and he's such a prolific writer. If

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anybody could write a Choose Your Own Adventure, it would

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be Rob. So these are all things I'm thinking about,

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but there are ways from anything launching. But the Weekly

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Spooky app, with any luck, will be out this Halloween

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season for our spookies to enjoy and maybe for some

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new people to discover on the App Store instead of

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in the podcast space. So, cause it'll, it'll work just

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as well as Spotify or Apple podcasts, you know, maybe

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better in some cases. I'm not, I mean, depending on

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what you value, like I value certain things from a

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podcast player and maybe you do too. So I am

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pretty amped about it because it's rare that I come

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up with an idea that I think is like a

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really good one that I can actually afford to execute.

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Oh, I have a question.

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Yes.

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Um, like, will it stop? Like, When your notification sounds

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go off or when you're, you're like listening to directions

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so you don't miss things.

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We're, we're, we're figuring that out right now. It does

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stop when your phone rings and when you answer a

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call and then when you hang up the call, it

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starts again. Okay. So I think, you know, bear with

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me because I'm still new to this. I think that

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that means yes, because, because I'm pretty sure that counts

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as the type of notification, but I, but I, but

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I know that we're, we're still, we're still plugging through.

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Okay, because I know, like, when I listen to podcasts

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on Spotify, it stops, you know, when I get any

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sort of notification or directions. But when I listen to

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songs on Spotify, it doesn't stop.

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Oh.

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It's super annoying. I mean, it's weird for it to

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stop all the time. Like, I get it, but then

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I don't hear all of the lyrics that I wanted

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to hear, and I get sad.

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Yeah, I get annoyed sometimes. at it stopping. I would

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get annoyed at stopping music more, but I also have my,

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I also have my stuff set to like very seldom

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say anything when I'm driving and stuff. Like I have

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it set to, to very seldom, uh, you know, make

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a noise unless it's absolutely necessary. Cause I, but I

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have like an Apple watch that'll buzz if there's when

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the turns coming up and stuff. So you kind of

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like get used to all of it. And I'm still,

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I'm still getting used to Apple car play, which is

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super useful, but I still don't even understand how to

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use all of it. That's okay. I don't think anybody does.

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Like the big screen and everything.

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Yeah.

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And because my odometer, my speedometer and everything is a screen,

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it also gives me turn by turn right next to

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my speed.

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Oh, that's pretty cool.

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I like that quite a bit. So if only I

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had more places to go, like maybe to Chell's for

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our Halloween episode. That's a tease. I don't know if

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I'll actually have the kind of time to do that,

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but I really hope I do. It would be so

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cool to come out and actually... see Chell in person

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and do a show for the first time, do a

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weekly spooky in person. We've never, or monthly spooky. We've

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never done one in person.

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We could go to a house that's haunted and do

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the show there, but then how do we get power?

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But I still want.

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To do it. I have a power bank that would

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let us do like a nine hour show.

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We could do, we could just go to a house

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that's vacant in Philly, just some random house and be like,

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let's just do the show here.

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Let's see if we get murdered. Yeah.

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And then there'll be audio of it.

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Yeah. Well, and, and if, if we are able to

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make good on that promise and I don't know for

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sure if I can, then I'm going to try to

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drag Chell to a haunt and I'll bring an audio

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recorder and we'll, we'll get like a little something of it. Okay.

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I mean, it'll be fun.

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I'll just stand there and not say anything, but yeah. Yeah.

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Okay, you're right. Video. I'll get a video.

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Okay.

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That way you can see her being awkward. Yeah. So,

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but before we go to a break and check out

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the spooky news, and we have some whoppers this month.

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I'm really excited to, the opener's perfect. Our topic this

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month is one that I have always been deeply interested

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in that Chell, you might not know much about. Do

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you know anything about the spook show?

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I don't think so, but I don't know.

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The spook show was kind of like the natural evolution

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when vaudeville was on its way out and films were

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on their way in. So it's a combination of like

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a horror movie or a short horror movie or whatever

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being shown and performers doing spooky stuff and magic on

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stage at the same time. Okay. So I got us

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a really great article to brush everybody up on the

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history of the spook show, the rise and the fall.

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That's going to be our topic tonight. But, That's after

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we have our, you know, you can't have your cake

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until you eat your vegetables. And we'll be back with

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those vegetables right after this. And we're back getting ready for, um,

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I totally threw my brain off, uh, getting ready for

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Halloween season, I wanted to mention I am actually, I'm

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extra into it, Chell, because I am drinking pumpkin spice tea.

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Wow.

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Yeah. It tastes pretty good. Good. I mean, there's no

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sweetener in it, so it's, I'm like, that's what I'm having,

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I'm learning, you know?

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Mm-hmm.

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Actually, it tastes really good. So, I put two bags

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in there, though. That's my, that's, I'm too... I'm too ADHD.

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I can't just, like, enjoy it. It has to be

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double steeped. Or I'm just like, I don't taste anything.

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I've broken all my dopamine receptors. That's pretty much me.

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But it's time for the spooky news. The spooky news. Chell,

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would you like me to help you unlock a new fear?

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Um, honestly?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, let's just do it.

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Yeah, okay, okay, cool.

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I gotta get at least one a day in there.

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Well, do you remember a few months back we did

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a story about a woman who actually had a bat

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in her hair?

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Yeah, yeah.

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This one's so much better.

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Is it another bat in someone's hair?

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No, you wish.

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Okay.

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Unexplainedmysteries.com. The headline is, Horror in Virginia as live bat

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crawls into sleeping woman's mouth.

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Why would they do that?

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I don't know. That's like the.

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Worst place to go in a person.

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I mean, well, that's debatable, but probably.

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I think it's the worst place to go in a person.

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Sorry. Okay. I mean, that's just your temperament, I guess.

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Bats can creep people out at the best of times,

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so imagine waking up to find one trying to get

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into your mouth. This nightmarish scenario became unfortunate reality for

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gastroenterologist Dr. Krista Edelman of Virginia, who had been asleep

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in bed next to her husband at their home in

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Richmond at the time. her husband should have protected her.

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Like that's like wedding vows are like in sickness and

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in health in bats, trying to crawl in your mouth

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and death, you know, like it's supposed to be in there. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The first sign that something was amiss came when she

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began having a vivid dream in which she could sense

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that a little mouse had been trying to crawl into

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her mouth. Oh God. Yeah. Have you ever had a

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dream like that? Have you had any dreams where things

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are trying to crawl into your mouth? No. Are you sure?

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No, actually I'm not. I forget most of my dreams.

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So maybe.

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You probably would remember if you woke up and it

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was actually happening, but otherwise it's just one of those dreams,

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you know?

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Exactly.

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One of those weird dreams. As she began to awaken,

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she realized that something really was trying to do exactly.

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That that's horrifying.

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It wasn't a mouse however it was a bat Quote,

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in my dream, I was reaching up to my mouth,

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and when I did, I grabbed something. Ultimately, I had

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folded the bat's wings, she recalled of the incident. So, Chell,

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how would it go for you? Have you ever woken

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up and there was anything alive in your mouth you

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weren't expecting?

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I don't think so!

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That's my, I thought, I thought that would be the case.

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So what would you do if you woke up in

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the middle of the night after having a dream that,

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you know, a little mouse is trying to get in

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your mouth and you realize it's a tiny bat.

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I'd probably throw it outside immediately. And then I would go,

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I really shouldn't have thrown that outside. Cause I probably

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need to test it for rabies or something, or maybe

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it was hurt.

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Well, I mean, first of all, I mean, if it had,

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I mean, it didn't bite you.

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It might've. Bit me.

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Okay, fine. Might've bit you. Okay, fine. Uh, but you, you, you,

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this is so bizarre. I'm sorry. Like when I found this,

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I had to double check it. Um, and I mean,

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I mean, I appreciate that this article is from September 11th,

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but the, uh, the incident I think happened in the,

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at the end of August. So Halloween celebration is starting

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earlier and earlier every year, isn't it? It really is.

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They're pushing it further and further back. But, I mean,

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first of all, have you ever found a bat in

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your house?

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No, and I don't want to.

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Well, I mean, hopefully you would find a bat in

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your house, but not in your mouth. But you just

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said that you would also be worried, like, what if

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it was wounded, right? Mm-hmm. That's why it wanted to

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be inside your mouth. It wanted a warm, safe place

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to heal. And what do you do? You throw it

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into the cold, harsh world.

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I mean, if it was wounded, it was probably because

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it was trying to get in my mouth.

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Oh, so you're victim blaming now. You're saying that, like, look,

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if that bat was hurt, it's because I did it.

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Because I'm the real predator in this.

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I don't think that's victim blaming, but yes.

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Yes.

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I'm pretty sure I am saying that I am the

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one to blame.

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Well, considering, I mean, who got hurt in this scenario?

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Not you. How? How were you hurt? I'm traumatized. Oh,

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come on. It's just a bat.

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And also the bat.

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I mean, I would be more worried that you might, like,

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bite down on the bat.

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Yeah, and then I'd hurt him.

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Yeah. See, then... You're hurting the bat unintentionally, so that

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at least makes you not quite a villain like you're

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describing yourself right now.

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I'm so confused.

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By what?

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I don't know if I'm the bad person in this

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story or the good person.

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Well, the good person in this story would have taken

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the bat and put it in a comfy little container

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and then cared for it, raised it to become a strong,

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productive member of bat society.

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I don't think that I could make something become a

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member of that society.

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Well, like not with that attitude.

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Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying.

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Oh, okay. God, you know, I'm starting to feel like

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this is actually like an insecurity you're struggling with.

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I don't know.

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Okay. I know. I'll let that, I'll let that go.

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Only you add out of friendship. I won't, I won't

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keep harping on that. Um, It's difficult to imagine the

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terror of waking up to something like this, but ever

474
00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:44.980
the professional, Dr. Edelman and her husband acted quickly to

475
00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:48.059
capture the bat so it could be checked for rabies.

476
00:23:49.180 --> 00:23:49.549
Good.

477
00:23:50.349 --> 00:23:52.009
Which means it's going to get killed, so I hope

478
00:23:52.049 --> 00:23:52.430
you're happy.

479
00:23:53.549 --> 00:23:55.130
No, it might not get killed.

480
00:23:55.589 --> 00:23:58.109
I'm pretty sure checking for rabies involves cutting off their head.

481
00:23:58.890 --> 00:23:59.170
Why?

482
00:23:59.190 --> 00:24:01.950
To check if they have rabies.

483
00:24:02.609 --> 00:24:06.680
You have to, like, take their head off? I actually

484
00:24:06.700 --> 00:24:10.220
really don't know how to do that, so maybe you're right.

485
00:24:10.420 --> 00:24:18.509
For rabies. Through post-mortem laboratory examination of its brain tissue. Fine.

486
00:24:18.589 --> 00:24:20.410
So what you really should do is, I was right,

487
00:24:20.430 --> 00:24:22.890
you chuck it outside, and then I'll just go and

488
00:24:22.930 --> 00:24:24.299
get a rabies shot, whatever.

489
00:24:24.500 --> 00:24:25.500
Or become friends.

490
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:28.279
And also get a rabies shot.

491
00:24:30.369 --> 00:24:30.710
All right.

492
00:24:30.769 --> 00:24:34.170
You know, the people, there's a bat rescue in Nepo,

493
00:24:34.230 --> 00:24:34.609
I think.

494
00:24:35.059 --> 00:24:35.259
Yeah.

495
00:24:35.890 --> 00:24:39.039
And you have to get a rabies shot before you

496
00:24:39.059 --> 00:24:39.519
work there.

497
00:24:40.059 --> 00:24:43.079
That makes sense. I mean, I get that. She also

498
00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:47.319
received precautionary shots while they awaited the results. Fortunately, it

499
00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:50.059
turned out that the flying mammal was not infected.

500
00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:51.190
So we just killed it.

501
00:24:51.579 --> 00:24:51.839
Yes.

502
00:24:52.259 --> 00:24:53.039
I want to die.

503
00:24:53.339 --> 00:24:56.109
But they're defending your point. Because the last line of

504
00:24:56.130 --> 00:24:59.069
this article is, the mental scars of the incident, however,

505
00:24:59.150 --> 00:25:02.710
may take some time to heal. So I guess, you know,

506
00:25:02.779 --> 00:25:05.200
an eye for an eye is good in this situation.

507
00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:09.480
Kill the bat because it made you uncomfortable. Fine. Whatever.

508
00:25:10.059 --> 00:25:12.140
I mean, there has to be something kind of wrong

509
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:14.160
with the bat if it was trying to get into

510
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:15.859
a person's mouth. So.

511
00:25:17.259 --> 00:25:22.170
Why would, whoops. I'm asking Gemini so it'll do a

512
00:25:22.190 --> 00:25:26.930
bad job. Why would a bat want to crawl into

513
00:25:27.109 --> 00:25:32.230
a human mouth? Bats do not crawl into a human

514
00:25:32.269 --> 00:25:34.690
mouth on purpose. It is not a natural behavior or

515
00:25:34.710 --> 00:25:38.480
a feeding preference. Yeah, no. That's why we don't hear

516
00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:46.220
about it all the time. Seeking shelter. Attracted to breath. Why?

517
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:46.309
Why?

518
00:25:46.829 --> 00:25:50.809
Warmth and carbon dioxide, which may accidentally guide a grounded

519
00:25:50.849 --> 00:25:51.690
or confused bat.

520
00:25:54.390 --> 00:25:54.589
Yeah.

521
00:25:55.589 --> 00:25:57.509
Okay. And you know what? I mean, I don't know

522
00:25:57.529 --> 00:25:59.809
if this makes you feel better because Gemini agrees with you,

523
00:25:59.869 --> 00:26:02.730
which is actually kind of worse. But it does say

524
00:26:02.750 --> 00:26:07.089
you should be concerned about undetected bites. Yeah.

525
00:26:07.569 --> 00:26:08.950
I know, Gemini. I know.

526
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:12.920
Well, we're going to take a quick break. And when

527
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:15.960
we come back, we're going to talk about an interesting

528
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:33.210
discover made on Google Earth. Right after this. All right,

529
00:26:33.230 --> 00:26:37.880
we're back with even more spooky news. This one comes

530
00:26:37.980 --> 00:26:43.640
from the New York Post. Chell. Yeah. Have you ever

531
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:45.880
gone exploring on Google earth?

532
00:26:47.220 --> 00:26:51.259
Um, I mean, yeah. I mean, like not in the way,

533
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:53.000
not like I did. I don't go to like just

534
00:26:53.019 --> 00:26:57.039
some random place and explore. I explore Pittsburgh, but, and,

535
00:26:57.299 --> 00:26:58.480
and New York, but yeah.

536
00:27:00.019 --> 00:27:02.059
I get exploring Pittsburgh. Cause you kind of like low

537
00:27:02.339 --> 00:27:06.119
key want to live there. Um, but why, why New York?

538
00:27:07.309 --> 00:27:10.910
Cause I looking at apartments and I just looking around.

539
00:27:11.579 --> 00:27:14.819
End up getting stuck places. Sometimes I get in a

540
00:27:14.900 --> 00:27:17.240
store and I'm like, how did I get in this store?

541
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.210
So even on Google Earth, you get lost in New York.

542
00:27:22.349 --> 00:27:24.150
I don't get lost in New York for real.

543
00:27:24.170 --> 00:27:28.869
Okay, fine. So you're so much better than Kevin McAllister

544
00:27:28.890 --> 00:27:30.410
getting lost in New York. Okay, fine.

545
00:27:31.049 --> 00:27:33.950
I'm an adult. He was a small child.

546
00:27:33.970 --> 00:27:38.849
I mean, harsh but fair. I'll give you that one. Well,

547
00:27:39.380 --> 00:27:44.109
this headline reads Google Earth image captures mysterious figure figures

548
00:27:44.650 --> 00:27:49.190
under Loch Ness's surface. Oh, yeah. We're heading to Scotland.

549
00:27:50.730 --> 00:27:56.400
The mysterious figures. That is weird. They look like really big. Well,

550
00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.640
that could be like kayaks or something. I don't know.

551
00:28:00.660 --> 00:28:02.869
I'd have to scale to really understand if it's if

552
00:28:02.900 --> 00:28:05.910
they're huge. I'm not sure. Could look like dolphins almost.

553
00:28:05.970 --> 00:28:08.660
I don't know. It's not very big. Yeah. That would be,

554
00:28:08.900 --> 00:28:11.779
I mean, that would, you, you couldn't be super angry

555
00:28:11.819 --> 00:28:13.519
if they were like, Oh, it turns out that, uh,

556
00:28:13.700 --> 00:28:16.740
the Loch Ness monster is a dolphin. You'd be like, okay,

557
00:28:16.779 --> 00:28:19.480
that's strange. Nobody should like, why would anyone guess that?

558
00:28:19.980 --> 00:28:20.299
Yeah.

559
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:22.940
Um, let me see if I can show this to you.

560
00:28:23.059 --> 00:28:29.710
I have no idea. I'm still new to everything. Um, okay.

561
00:28:29.769 --> 00:28:34.369
That should, it should, it should work. Um, I'm not

562
00:28:34.410 --> 00:28:35.329
good at the internet.

563
00:28:36.700 --> 00:28:37.059
Sorry.

564
00:28:37.460 --> 00:28:41.109
Yeah, well, we'll, we'll, we'll, I'll, you'll just take my

565
00:28:41.150 --> 00:28:42.390
word for it. Like the audiences.

566
00:28:43.130 --> 00:28:43.769
Okay, sure.

567
00:28:44.069 --> 00:28:44.289
Sure.

568
00:28:44.450 --> 00:28:46.630
It's, it's wonderful. That thing.

569
00:28:48.650 --> 00:28:51.789
This is not, now I'm having a hard time with it. Uh,

570
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:57.740
why is it doing this? Sorry, man. Why, why am

571
00:28:57.779 --> 00:28:58.380
I the worst?

572
00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:02.319
No, no, that's me.

573
00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:08.470
Okay. We're good. Sorry. I'm not editing that out because

574
00:29:08.509 --> 00:29:11.710
I want people to see I am just a man. Yeah.

575
00:29:12.529 --> 00:29:16.200
I worry too much that they think the opposite. A

576
00:29:16.259 --> 00:29:20.019
Google image captured a mysterious mass in Scotland's Loch Ness,

577
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:24.190
sparking one tourist to conclude it's, quote, a little family

578
00:29:24.309 --> 00:29:25.029
of Nessies.

579
00:29:25.750 --> 00:29:27.410
Come on, that's not true.

580
00:29:27.849 --> 00:29:32.059
Ouch. Julie Fraser made the discovery of the three mysterious

581
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:35.950
figures from space last week and has reported the image

582
00:29:36.150 --> 00:29:39.970
to the official Loch Ness Sightings Register and is awaiting confirmation.

583
00:29:40.140 --> 00:29:43.759
as to whether this is now the 17th confirmed sighting

584
00:29:44.220 --> 00:29:48.869
of the legendary beast. Oh, to be made this year. Wow.

585
00:29:49.049 --> 00:29:52.630
The Inverness Courier reported, quote, I'm planning a visit to

586
00:29:52.710 --> 00:29:55.289
Inverness later in the year and was just playing with

587
00:29:55.329 --> 00:29:58.269
Google Earth when I spotted the three objects, she told

588
00:29:58.309 --> 00:30:02.109
the outlet. Taking a closer look and enlarging the images,

589
00:30:02.210 --> 00:30:05.029
they don't look like boats, and they look like, oh,

590
00:30:05.170 --> 00:30:07.670
and look like whales or something similar with an arc

591
00:30:07.730 --> 00:30:11.119
in their back, she explained. So I wasn't totally insane

592
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:12.599
thinking they kind of looked like dolphins.

593
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:13.359
Mm-hmm.

594
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:15.940
Oh, wow. When they zoom in all the way, it's

595
00:30:15.980 --> 00:30:18.380
just pixels. I mean, there's no information, though.

596
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:23.099
Yeah, I mean, that's the problem, though. Google Earth only

597
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:24.809
has so much resolution.

598
00:30:25.109 --> 00:30:29.509
You know? Oh, sure. No, it's a very, I mean, that's... And,

599
00:30:29.549 --> 00:30:32.529
you know, it's, it's very, very far away. Yeah.

600
00:30:32.589 --> 00:30:35.819
So it really could be anything. It could be some logs. Yeah.

601
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:36.319
Maybe.

602
00:30:36.339 --> 00:30:37.240
I mean, I can't see it.

603
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:39.579
They're kind of long and bright. Like my guess would

604
00:30:39.619 --> 00:30:42.220
be like little boats, but they're all, and they're all

605
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:43.640
close to each other. So that makes me think like

606
00:30:43.700 --> 00:30:49.109
kayaks or, or canoes. Cause that's very, you know, close

607
00:30:49.150 --> 00:30:53.630
together kind of water stuff. Frazier points to the photo

608
00:30:53.650 --> 00:30:57.470
depicting no V-shaped trail behind the three shapes, unlike a

609
00:30:57.509 --> 00:31:00.539
nearby image of a pleasure boat cutting across the lock,

610
00:31:00.970 --> 00:31:04.480
a detail she believes rules out a passing vessel. Well,

611
00:31:04.539 --> 00:31:06.220
I'll just shut up. Damn.

612
00:31:06.500 --> 00:31:08.559
Um, you know, boats can stop.

613
00:31:09.380 --> 00:31:09.640
How?

614
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.289
I don't know enough about boats to tell you.

615
00:31:15.309 --> 00:31:17.190
I mean, what, you think they just hit the brakes?

616
00:31:17.250 --> 00:31:18.869
That's not how it works. I don't.

617
00:31:20.339 --> 00:31:22.980
I'm not even really sure they have brakes. They might

618
00:31:23.019 --> 00:31:25.470
have brakes. I think they have anchors, but I'm not

619
00:31:25.569 --> 00:31:26.589
sure about that either.

620
00:31:26.809 --> 00:31:28.309
Big boats have anchors, for sure.

621
00:31:28.390 --> 00:31:30.690
Little boats also have anchors?

622
00:31:30.730 --> 00:31:32.049
They have to, I would assume.

623
00:31:32.130 --> 00:31:33.809
Yeah, everybody's got anchors.

624
00:31:34.509 --> 00:31:39.230
You've got an anchor? Yes. Why have I never seen it?

625
00:31:40.380 --> 00:31:42.660
I only take it out when I really need to

626
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:43.259
be still.

627
00:31:49.329 --> 00:31:53.490
That should not have got me that good. Fair enough.

628
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:59.180
You win this round, Chell, but there will be others.

629
00:31:59.980 --> 00:32:04.140
She also pointed to a 2026 timestamp embedded in the imagery,

630
00:32:04.500 --> 00:32:07.980
along with trees still in full leaf as signs that

631
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:15.390
the footage is recent. Quote, I'm not a crank, Fraser professed. Uh-oh.

632
00:32:16.500 --> 00:32:18.160
Does that make you think she's a crank? It kind

633
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:19.440
of makes me think she's a crank.

634
00:32:20.019 --> 00:32:22.900
Yeah, because otherwise you would be like, I don't know

635
00:32:22.980 --> 00:32:24.109
if this is real.

636
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:27.690
Yeah. Now I'm leaning crank.

637
00:32:28.250 --> 00:32:29.210
Yeah, me too.

638
00:32:29.269 --> 00:32:35.049
It's giving crank. It's giving crank. Quote, I'm not as

639
00:32:35.109 --> 00:32:38.569
familiar as probably local people, but it definitely looks like

640
00:32:38.630 --> 00:32:42.599
something significant to me, she added. The official Loch Ness

641
00:32:42.619 --> 00:32:46.289
Sightings Register has since reached out to Fraser and confirmed

642
00:32:46.349 --> 00:32:52.329
it's reviewing the image, she said. Quote, I thought a

643
00:32:52.450 --> 00:32:57.789
little family of Nessies was so exciting, Fraser quipped. If confirmed,

644
00:32:57.849 --> 00:33:03.220
her find would mark the third sighting logged digitally since January. Wow.

645
00:33:03.579 --> 00:33:05.440
Yeah, I know they have cameras up everywhere.

646
00:33:05.460 --> 00:33:09.259
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. part of a banner year for

647
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:13.619
the Legendary Beast that has already produced 14 in-person encounters

648
00:33:14.069 --> 00:33:18.750
and two additional webcam-based sightings, according to the official register.

649
00:33:19.569 --> 00:33:19.829
Wow.

650
00:33:20.329 --> 00:33:22.450
That's the kind of thing you'd think I'd be into. Like,

651
00:33:22.509 --> 00:33:25.930
I would just, like, when I'm, like, you know, enjoying

652
00:33:25.970 --> 00:33:28.079
a fine cigar after a long day, I'm just watching

653
00:33:28.099 --> 00:33:30.299
the Loch Ness live feed in the middle of the night.

654
00:33:30.740 --> 00:33:32.579
Or it might be the day, because I forgot about

655
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:33.200
the time change.

656
00:33:36.579 --> 00:33:37.420
It's not that different.

657
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.299
Okay, fine. Do you remember when you first heard about

658
00:33:42.339 --> 00:33:43.900
Loch Ness, about the Loch Ness Monster?

659
00:33:44.380 --> 00:33:44.589
No.

660
00:33:45.529 --> 00:33:45.789
Really?

661
00:33:45.829 --> 00:33:47.930
I just figured I always knew about it.

662
00:33:49.430 --> 00:33:50.190
Okay, I could see that.

663
00:33:50.650 --> 00:33:50.910
Yeah.

664
00:33:51.190 --> 00:33:53.750
I just remember it capturing, I mean, of course, I'm

665
00:33:53.849 --> 00:33:56.640
the guy who started Weekly Spooky, so of course it

666
00:33:56.660 --> 00:34:00.930
captured my imagination. Yeah. Because, like, what did I do

667
00:34:00.950 --> 00:34:02.490
when I became an adult? I started trying to be

668
00:34:02.529 --> 00:34:06.549
Halloween every day. Yeah, clearly it captured my imagination. But

669
00:34:06.730 --> 00:34:09.690
I was just always so fascinated by the idea of

670
00:34:09.750 --> 00:34:12.320
Loch Ness. The idea of this little town in the

671
00:34:12.340 --> 00:34:15.659
middle of nowhere. Ignore the fact that it could really

672
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.179
use tourism dollars. That has a special monster that's supposedly

673
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.500
been seen for a very, very long time. But nobody

674
00:34:23.539 --> 00:34:27.360
can really quite... nailed down, you know, how long and

675
00:34:27.420 --> 00:34:29.920
nobody's got any straight up proof. But then on the

676
00:34:29.980 --> 00:34:33.139
other side, it's, uh, they, they have the, you know,

677
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:37.110
they call her Nessie and there's all this cuteness to it.

678
00:34:37.139 --> 00:34:38.739
I don't know. I've always liked that. I've always thought

679
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:42.099
that was, I mean, Nessie is definitely for my generation.

680
00:34:42.139 --> 00:34:47.090
I don't think for this, for current generations was the cryptid, um,

681
00:34:47.550 --> 00:34:51.070
gateway drug. You know, Loch Ness Monster. I think, I

682
00:34:51.250 --> 00:34:53.869
think that generations after it was a little bit, you know,

683
00:34:53.889 --> 00:34:58.809
we got way more into Bigfoot and now, you know, Mothman, Bigfoot, Chupacabra.

684
00:34:58.889 --> 00:35:01.510
Those are become like more, I think the like initial

685
00:35:02.710 --> 00:35:07.010
culprits for cryptid stuff. But I, I don't know. I've

686
00:35:07.030 --> 00:35:09.769
always loved the Loch Ness Monster. It's always made me happy.

687
00:35:10.070 --> 00:35:12.860
So, so why don't you watch the live feed?

688
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.179
You know, that is the question I'll be asking myself

689
00:35:16.260 --> 00:35:19.489
with my therapist. Okay. No, I'm going to find out.

690
00:35:19.530 --> 00:35:21.389
I bet you I could stream it to my TV.

691
00:35:22.110 --> 00:35:23.050
I'm sure you could, yeah.

692
00:35:23.269 --> 00:35:26.409
I bet you I could stream it to my stove.

693
00:35:28.570 --> 00:35:30.789
That can just be what's on your stove all the time.

694
00:35:30.809 --> 00:35:35.550
I actually kind of love that idea. That's just the

695
00:35:35.590 --> 00:35:39.070
right quirk that I like in my day-to-day life.

696
00:35:39.090 --> 00:35:41.590
I mean, I would stream the live feed of those eagles.

697
00:35:42.389 --> 00:35:47.869
in their nest yeah like the eagles that are yeah

698
00:35:48.190 --> 00:35:49.690
but but you can stream the.

699
00:35:49.690 --> 00:35:53.230
Loch ness yeah okay i wouldn't stream the eagles but

700
00:35:53.269 --> 00:35:59.889
i do like hotel california hey when we return ghosts

701
00:36:00.329 --> 00:36:08.360
in a classroom it sucks for the ghosts yeah right

702
00:36:08.420 --> 00:36:21.360
after this All right, Chell, we're heading to India. Oh.

703
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:29.619
That's it. No, this is from Times of India, and

704
00:36:29.659 --> 00:36:34.239
the headline reads, Ghosts in Classrooms? How Rumors Sparked Panic

705
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:34.980
in Schools.

706
00:36:36.530 --> 00:36:36.639
Hmm.

707
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.070
I mean, that doesn't make you curious? You're like, eh,

708
00:36:40.389 --> 00:36:41.670
I know enough about ghosts. I'm good.

709
00:36:42.539 --> 00:36:44.699
Yeah, and I know enough about schools.

710
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:49.559
Well, yeah, you do. You graduated high school and college.

711
00:36:49.940 --> 00:36:50.619
Yeah.

712
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:56.030
What a loser. Yeah. A sudden scream during an examination,

713
00:36:56.130 --> 00:36:59.309
reports of strange sounds from an empty classroom, and students

714
00:36:59.409 --> 00:37:04.150
claiming to have heard the jingle of gungroos where nobody stood.

715
00:37:04.170 --> 00:37:07.489
I don't know what gungroos are, do you? No. Uh-oh.

716
00:37:08.070 --> 00:37:09.679
I didn't know there'd be homework. Ha!

717
00:37:09.739 --> 00:37:09.809
Ha!

718
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:14.139
I didn't even mean to do that. I'm so naturally funny.

719
00:37:15.409 --> 00:37:18.969
Musical anklets made of small metallic bells strung together.

720
00:37:18.989 --> 00:37:20.190
Oh, okay.

721
00:37:20.610 --> 00:37:24.989
Okay. Okay, cool. Where nobody stood, rumors of ghosts and

722
00:37:25.030 --> 00:37:29.130
paranormal activity have repeatedly triggered panic in schools, with fear

723
00:37:29.210 --> 00:37:33.300
spreading from students to parents, and in some cases, forcing

724
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:40.079
children to leave campuses. I mean, I... I would also...

725
00:37:41.110 --> 00:37:42.809
I would use that excuse. Yes.

726
00:37:43.030 --> 00:37:44.789
Oh no. They have to go home.

727
00:37:45.030 --> 00:37:48.269
Oh no. I gotta go home. There's ghosts, ma. Like, sorry.

728
00:37:48.389 --> 00:37:53.010
It's the ghosts is the problem. Like it's, there's ghosts. Yo,

729
00:37:56.769 --> 00:37:59.179
this webpage is making it impossible for me to read

730
00:37:59.219 --> 00:38:02.639
the rest, but it's not locked. It's just like, do

731
00:38:02.659 --> 00:38:04.199
you want to read other stories? It's like, no, I'd

732
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:07.780
like to scroll to the bottom of this one. It's like, nah. Yeah.

733
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:13.329
It's really annoying. Um, In one such incident in Nainital,

734
00:38:13.670 --> 00:38:17.150
a student's sudden scream during an exam led to rumors

735
00:38:17.190 --> 00:38:20.139
that a ghost had appeared on the premises of a

736
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:24.159
girls' school. Several students began crying and rushing across the

737
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:28.539
campus before teachers called their parents and sent them home. Yeah,

738
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.179
this sounds like a great scam.

739
00:38:30.860 --> 00:38:34.789
Yeah. We just have to pretend that there's ghosts, guys.

740
00:38:34.829 --> 00:38:37.250
Yeah, we could do this. Piece of cake. Piece of

741
00:38:37.349 --> 00:38:37.989
crumb cake.

742
00:38:38.730 --> 00:38:40.969
And I love that, like, They're getting sent home. The

743
00:38:41.010 --> 00:38:43.360
teachers aren't going like, okay, there's a ghost, but we

744
00:38:43.380 --> 00:38:44.820
have to, we got to finish this lesson.

745
00:38:47.420 --> 00:38:51.699
I mean, honestly, this sounds pretty solid. Yeah. You know,

746
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:53.940
to get out of school. Yeah. What was, what was

747
00:38:53.980 --> 00:38:54.659
your go-to to.

748
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:59.099
Get out of school? I, I didn't do that really.

749
00:38:59.539 --> 00:39:01.719
You never, you never faked sick a little bit?

750
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:04.199
No, actually I didn't. I mean, I got sick and

751
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:06.719
didn't go to school, but I, I, I didn't fake sick.

752
00:39:07.340 --> 00:39:08.659
Were you one of those kids that would be like,

753
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:10.519
I could probably still go even when you were sick?

754
00:39:10.860 --> 00:39:12.960
No, I was not one of those kids. No.

755
00:39:13.300 --> 00:39:17.110
Okay. So you're not like a total punk ass, I guess. Yeah.

756
00:39:17.170 --> 00:39:19.289
No, I don't go to school if I'm sick. Sorry.

757
00:39:19.489 --> 00:39:25.190
I don't go to school at all because I'm 40. Yeah. No,

758
00:39:25.269 --> 00:39:29.230
that's it. I mean, I would say faking sick, I

759
00:39:29.309 --> 00:39:33.329
never did. like in the strongest sense of that term. I,

760
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:36.300
but I think that, you know, if I woke up

761
00:39:37.539 --> 00:39:40.110
and I, you know, didn't feel very well, maybe because

762
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:43.789
I stayed up late, you know, you know, watching television

763
00:39:43.829 --> 00:39:46.489
and secret or something, I might've been like, I don't

764
00:39:46.590 --> 00:39:50.289
feel very well, you know, I might've pulled that. I

765
00:39:50.309 --> 00:39:52.530
might have pulled that once or twice. Yeah.

766
00:39:52.610 --> 00:39:54.840
I was too nervous as a child to pretend to

767
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:56.920
be sick, but not, no.

768
00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.400
You're like, I was so nervous. I just would be sick.

769
00:39:59.460 --> 00:40:02.019
I'd be like, I want, like, I would imagine pretending

770
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:03.559
to be sick. And then all of a sudden I'm vomiting.

771
00:40:04.449 --> 00:40:05.130
There you go.

772
00:40:05.809 --> 00:40:07.750
That's, I mean, that's a solid way to do it.

773
00:40:09.469 --> 00:40:11.469
I'm just saying what, I mean, how else would you

774
00:40:11.510 --> 00:40:12.809
get out of, get out of school?

775
00:40:13.730 --> 00:40:16.300
You just don't, you just live with the fact that

776
00:40:16.340 --> 00:40:18.239
you have to go to this place where people are

777
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:21.570
like terrible. Yeah. And you just do it. You just

778
00:40:21.650 --> 00:40:24.409
let it break you. Okay.

779
00:40:24.530 --> 00:40:28.929
Okay. That's one method I hadn't considered. I'm you've made

780
00:40:28.969 --> 00:40:31.599
me very sad. Thank you.

781
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:32.760
You're welcome.

782
00:40:32.860 --> 00:40:33.920
I figured that was your goal.

783
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:35.699
Usually.

784
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.940
But when I got older and I think now it's been,

785
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:41.800
I think the statute of limitations is up so I

786
00:40:41.820 --> 00:40:43.539
can say this. When I got a little older, I

787
00:40:43.820 --> 00:40:45.699
would just go to my mom every so often if

788
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:47.590
I hadn't been sick in a while and just be like,

789
00:40:47.789 --> 00:40:48.929
can I just not today?

790
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:51.739
Oh, yeah. I mean, I did that, too.

791
00:40:52.300 --> 00:40:54.260
Oh. I mean. When did that start?

792
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:57.360
I mean, it's not really. It would just be, like,

793
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.179
it would be okay if I just didn't go to

794
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.960
school today. My mom would be like, yeah, yeah. I mean,

795
00:41:02.980 --> 00:41:05.079
and that would happen, like, once a year or something

796
00:41:05.139 --> 00:41:05.980
crazy like that.

797
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.440
Something crazy like once a year?

798
00:41:08.460 --> 00:41:09.739
Yeah. Once a year. Man.

799
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:11.849
And you have two more years of high school than

800
00:41:11.909 --> 00:41:16.610
I do. So. Oh, fuck. That's not a lot of

801
00:41:16.710 --> 00:41:20.980
time off, in my opinion. Well. It always makes me

802
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:22.840
think of that Pete and Pete episode, the sick day

803
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.340
episode where, you know, little Pete pretends to be sick

804
00:41:25.429 --> 00:41:28.309
because of that. They describe it like that stretch of

805
00:41:28.369 --> 00:41:30.849
time where there aren't any holidays for a really long time.

806
00:41:31.030 --> 00:41:33.210
And there's in spring break is still far away and stuff.

807
00:41:33.570 --> 00:41:37.349
So it's like sick day. It's the only way out. Um,

808
00:41:37.949 --> 00:41:40.030
I mean, yeah, yeah. I mean, I, yeah, I wouldn't

809
00:41:40.090 --> 00:41:42.530
fake a sniffle. I would not do that, but I might,

810
00:41:42.989 --> 00:41:45.130
I might've been a little, my stomach might've been a

811
00:41:45.130 --> 00:41:47.139
little upset. So I was like, I really should just

812
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:49.880
stay home and watch and solve mysteries.

813
00:41:50.369 --> 00:41:52.230
Yeah, I mean, I get that. I mean, I didn't

814
00:41:52.289 --> 00:41:55.590
do that, but I totally, I don't fault you for

815
00:41:55.630 --> 00:41:56.150
doing that.

816
00:41:56.170 --> 00:41:58.449
It sounds kind of like you do.

817
00:41:58.469 --> 00:42:02.199
I don't really fault you that much for doing something

818
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:07.079
that was really, really against the rules and the things.

819
00:42:07.179 --> 00:42:07.739
I don't know.

820
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:12.119
I give up. I mean, I guess it's okay to

821
00:42:12.860 --> 00:42:15.340
give up, but I didn't even think we were in

822
00:42:15.500 --> 00:42:18.599
a situation where giving up was even necessary.

823
00:42:19.300 --> 00:42:19.980
Now you know.

824
00:42:20.510 --> 00:42:25.530
And knowing is half the battle. Maybe. More than 600

825
00:42:25.530 --> 00:42:34.250
students have reportedly fled government-run tribal residential schools in Maharashtra's

826
00:42:34.929 --> 00:42:38.789
Amradi's district after rumors of a ghost on campus triggered

827
00:42:38.829 --> 00:42:42.250
fear and panic among students. The incident reported at the

828
00:42:42.469 --> 00:42:49.030
Doma government tribal Ashramshala in Shikaldhara, Toluca. Ha, I could

829
00:42:49.050 --> 00:42:53.929
say Toluca. Probably wrong, but I said it. In the

830
00:42:53.989 --> 00:42:57.570
Melgat region of Amvrati. Oh my gosh, this is brutal.

831
00:42:58.550 --> 00:43:02.960
According to reports, 608 students, including 345 girls and 263 boys.

832
00:43:03.219 --> 00:43:07.920
So it was mostly girls. I wonder what that says

833
00:43:08.739 --> 00:43:11.820
about the fairer sex. Left the residential school and returned

834
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:15.260
to their homes amid growing concerns over alleged supernatural activity.

835
00:43:15.929 --> 00:43:18.650
The scare reportedly began after some students claimed they heard

836
00:43:18.710 --> 00:43:22.590
unusual sounds during the night, including sounds resembling anklets, like

837
00:43:22.630 --> 00:43:27.719
we mentioned, crying and laughter. What would freak you out more, Chell,

838
00:43:27.780 --> 00:43:29.679
unexplained crying or unexplained laughter?

839
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:38.500
I don't really know, actually. I kind of feel like neither.

840
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.960
They're both like on the same level for me.

841
00:43:42.980 --> 00:43:44.670
Okay, so both would scare you.

842
00:43:45.849 --> 00:43:47.639
They probably wouldn't scare me that much.

843
00:43:49.460 --> 00:43:51.840
Are you sure? I feel like unexplained sounds can scare

844
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:52.380
you quite a bit.

845
00:43:53.179 --> 00:43:56.500
I feel like unexplained crying would just be really sad.

846
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.239
And if it's laughter, at least they're happy.

847
00:43:59.260 --> 00:44:02.610
Okay, what if they're happy because they finally got into

848
00:44:02.650 --> 00:44:08.269
your home? Whatever. You're like, yeah, it's a nice house.

849
00:44:08.369 --> 00:44:10.190
I'm glad they're happy to be here.

850
00:44:10.230 --> 00:44:11.969
Yeah, I fixed it up real nice so that they

851
00:44:12.019 --> 00:44:14.880
could see it. Someone's got to come in my house

852
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.300
and look around at all my weird anime stuff.

853
00:44:18.300 --> 00:44:20.349
Oh, I mean, that's a dirty job, but somebody's got

854
00:44:20.369 --> 00:44:26.670
to do it. Yeah. Reports said some students fainted, trembled, screamed, cried,

855
00:44:26.909 --> 00:44:33.679
or laughed uncontrollably. Wow. Mass hysteria. Mass hysteria. Dogs and

856
00:44:33.739 --> 00:44:41.469
cats living in harmony. while others reportedly were seen behaving

857
00:44:41.530 --> 00:44:45.860
aggressively or appearing disoriented. As more students witnessed these incidents,

858
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:52.280
fear spread rapidly across the hostel. That sounds right. The

859
00:44:52.380 --> 00:44:56.579
mass hysteria thing. Videos showing some of the students' episodes

860
00:44:56.619 --> 00:45:00.519
were also circulated on social media, further fueling the claims

861
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:06.659
that the school was haunted. That sounds about right. Yeah.

862
00:45:07.460 --> 00:45:11.219
Doctors in doctors instead attributed the incidents to mass anxiety

863
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:14.860
and psychosomatic reactions. Such episodes can, can, can occur when

864
00:45:14.900 --> 00:45:18.510
intense fear or stress spreads through a closely connected group

865
00:45:18.909 --> 00:45:23.789
with individuals experiencing genuine physical and psychological symptoms, even when

866
00:45:23.829 --> 00:45:28.949
there is no underlying supernatural cause. I mean, yeah, I mean,

867
00:45:28.969 --> 00:45:31.139
a lot of things happen in life without any underlying

868
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:38.050
supernatural cause, but yeah, but why quibble? Um, The Maharashtra

869
00:45:38.630 --> 00:45:45.179
Andhashrata Nirmala Samiti, or MANS, that would have been a

870
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:48.780
lot easier, has also intervened in the matter. They're the

871
00:45:48.900 --> 00:45:54.139
anti-superstition group in India attempting to dispel the rumors and

872
00:45:54.179 --> 00:45:56.550
reassure students that there is no evidence that the school

873
00:45:56.610 --> 00:45:59.710
is haunted. The latest reports suggest that several students who

874
00:45:59.750 --> 00:46:02.829
had left the institution are now willing to return following

875
00:46:02.889 --> 00:46:05.050
counseling and awareness efforts.

876
00:46:06.670 --> 00:46:09.829
Okay. It can only last for so long.

877
00:46:10.150 --> 00:46:15.340
Yeah. Authorities are now focusing on restoring confidence, counseling students,

878
00:46:15.380 --> 00:46:19.719
and preventing misinformation from further escalating the situation. For now, the, quote,

879
00:46:19.780 --> 00:46:23.820
haunted school claim remains unsubstantiated. What initially appeared to be

880
00:46:23.860 --> 00:46:26.760
a case of supernatural activity is increasingly being viewed by

881
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:33.300
medical professionals as an episode involving mass anxiety and psychosomatic symptoms. Yep.

882
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:37.800
I mean, do you think it was, all joking aside,

883
00:46:37.820 --> 00:46:39.840
I think it was probably exacerbated by people who wanted

884
00:46:39.860 --> 00:46:40.260
to go home.

885
00:46:41.219 --> 00:46:44.369
It's possible. I'm not saying.

886
00:46:44.250 --> 00:46:46.130
All of them did at all. I think that they

887
00:46:46.309 --> 00:46:50.789
probably got really freaked out and then kind of started participating. Yeah. Yeah.

888
00:46:50.869 --> 00:46:51.769
I mean, I could see that.

889
00:46:53.389 --> 00:46:55.809
Well, we're going to take a quick break. And when

890
00:46:55.849 --> 00:47:00.730
we get back, police are responding to a burglary. A

891
00:47:00.769 --> 00:47:05.159
burglary I think Michelle will either really like. or really

892
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:17.840
hate right after this. You know, what's a term, a

893
00:47:18.460 --> 00:47:21.940
phrase that I feel is, was cool and we don't

894
00:47:22.219 --> 00:47:29.480
use it anymore, which, which is lame. No. Oh, cat burglar.

895
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:31.179
Okay.

896
00:47:31.300 --> 00:47:32.059
Isn't that a cool term?

897
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:33.860
I guess.

898
00:47:34.260 --> 00:47:36.179
I'm sure you heard it as a kid, right? You know,

899
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:38.980
cat burglar and cartoons and stuff. And not just when

900
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:40.940
the cat, the burglar was literally a cat, but the

901
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:42.619
whole idea of like a cat burglar being somebody who

902
00:47:42.659 --> 00:47:45.460
sneaks in quietly and, and dah, dah, dah. Well, this

903
00:47:45.539 --> 00:47:50.650
story from upi.com, the headline is police responding to burglary report,

904
00:47:50.949 --> 00:47:56.570
report finding Bobcat inside home. Oh, so it's literally a

905
00:47:56.630 --> 00:47:57.460
cat burglar. Yay.

906
00:47:58.929 --> 00:47:59.590
Yay.

907
00:48:01.099 --> 00:48:03.340
And don't worry, they check the cat for rabies, I'm sure.

908
00:48:03.619 --> 00:48:06.750
So you'll be happy that they kill the cat.

909
00:48:07.130 --> 00:48:08.170
I didn't know.

910
00:48:10.530 --> 00:48:14.250
Police in Washington responded to a 911 call about a

911
00:48:14.329 --> 00:48:18.679
possible burglary and wound up encountering a literal cat burglar.

912
00:48:18.699 --> 00:48:22.380
A what? A bobcat. Have you ever seen a bobcat

913
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:22.820
in person?

914
00:48:23.460 --> 00:48:24.579
No, not in person.

915
00:48:25.019 --> 00:48:27.780
Have you ever watched Bobcat Goldthwait's stand-up comedy specials?

916
00:48:28.550 --> 00:48:31.590
No, so I don't know anything about bobcats, except that

917
00:48:31.610 --> 00:48:34.389
I think that their links are related to them.

918
00:48:34.409 --> 00:48:39.010
I'm sure they are. Yeah. It would stand to reason.

919
00:48:39.949 --> 00:48:42.590
The Kirkland Police Department said in a Facebook post that

920
00:48:42.630 --> 00:48:46.349
a resident in the Moss Bay neighborhood called 911 recently

921
00:48:46.389 --> 00:48:49.550
to report loud banging in their home that they feared

922
00:48:49.820 --> 00:48:53.760
could be a burglar. Quote, when officers arrived, they found

923
00:48:53.820 --> 00:48:56.760
the unexpected intruder perched at the top of the stairs.

924
00:48:57.139 --> 00:49:00.570
A bobcat, the post said. So what would you do, Chell,

925
00:49:01.610 --> 00:49:04.550
if this happened to you? You hear some unexpected sounds.

926
00:49:05.230 --> 00:49:06.710
Giggs is in the room with you, so you know

927
00:49:06.750 --> 00:49:10.230
it's not Giggs doing cat stuff. And then you walk

928
00:49:10.349 --> 00:49:13.039
out and just like on the banister is just a bobcat.

929
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.000
Yeah, I pick up Giggs and we just leave. That's it.

930
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:19.179
But you'd have to walk past the banister to get

931
00:49:19.219 --> 00:49:19.679
to the exit.

932
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.920
Okay i mean i wouldn't in my house but okay

933
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:26.940
so let's say it's my house where i grew up

934
00:49:27.539 --> 00:49:29.119
okay i have to walk then i go out the

935
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.880
back door i guess or i guess i could just

936
00:49:33.219 --> 00:49:35.489
i could just stand there and stare at it and

937
00:49:35.530 --> 00:49:37.469
call the police very slowly.

938
00:49:38.130 --> 00:49:43.429
Okay, okay. Let's lower the stakes. What if it was

939
00:49:43.469 --> 00:49:47.150
just a strange cat? Like a house cat, but you

940
00:49:47.170 --> 00:49:48.769
don't know it, you've never seen it before, and it's

941
00:49:48.809 --> 00:49:49.190
just there?

942
00:49:50.750 --> 00:49:55.889
Go over to it and put your hand out and say, hey, hey,

943
00:49:56.449 --> 00:49:58.320
and then see what it does.

944
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.099
Why wouldn't you do that with a bobcat?

945
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:04.900
I don't know what bobcats are like temperament-wise. I don't

946
00:50:04.940 --> 00:50:07.840
really want to be attacked by one, exactly.

947
00:50:08.619 --> 00:50:12.889
You wouldn't just grab a little yarn toy and be like, hey, pal.

948
00:50:13.650 --> 00:50:16.010
No, because what if it gets real into it and

949
00:50:16.030 --> 00:50:19.170
then it scratches my arm really, really badly?

950
00:50:19.829 --> 00:50:22.150
Oh, God. Okay, well, now you're just making it sad.

951
00:50:23.289 --> 00:50:23.889
Okay, fine.

952
00:50:24.030 --> 00:50:26.059
I thought you were a cat lover, but apparently not.

953
00:50:26.619 --> 00:50:28.420
Fine. It's my best friend now. We're just going to

954
00:50:28.460 --> 00:50:30.000
hang out together. Everything's fine.

955
00:50:30.219 --> 00:50:30.909
What are you going to name it?

956
00:50:32.820 --> 00:50:33.539
I don't know.

957
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:36.849
Come on. You've got to name it.

958
00:50:38.610 --> 00:50:40.909
I'm trying to think of something that's like not weird,

959
00:50:40.989 --> 00:50:45.360
but weird in a way that Bob. Yeah, exactly. Like,

960
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.920
like not like, stop it. Like my brain is like here,

961
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:50.400
just pick an anime character.

962
00:50:50.739 --> 00:50:55.079
No, no. That is, I am aware that that is

963
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:55.699
your go-to.

964
00:50:56.059 --> 00:50:58.559
How about like Petunia, the Bobcat?

965
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:02.639
Petunia is not bad actually. Yeah. I like Petunia. I'll

966
00:51:02.659 --> 00:51:06.849
give you Petunia. Okay. Okay. No, I like Petunia. Uh,

967
00:51:08.449 --> 00:51:10.630
I would probably name it, like, I've always wanted to

968
00:51:10.670 --> 00:51:15.309
name something Agamemnon. I'd probably go with Agamemnon. Okay. I

969
00:51:15.329 --> 00:51:17.530
like it. I like that it's kind of hard. It's, like,

970
00:51:17.630 --> 00:51:20.300
really hard to read. I like that. You know, because

971
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:22.480
then it can identify with me, having a name that people, like,

972
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:26.719
would furrow their brow when they'd see. Hmm. Police used

973
00:51:26.780 --> 00:51:30.559
a drone to monitor the movements of the cat burglar

974
00:51:30.739 --> 00:51:34.110
inside the home from a safe distance. They were able

975
00:51:34.150 --> 00:51:36.199
to use the drone to guide the feline to an

976
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:40.780
unoccupied room to await personnel from Washington Department of Fish

977
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:44.929
and Wildlife. Do you think they're going to kill it?

978
00:51:45.860 --> 00:51:47.960
No, I think they're just going to release it outside.

979
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:51.650
This is the double standard that bats struggle with, but

980
00:51:51.730 --> 00:51:54.210
cats don't, even though they're one letter apart.

981
00:51:56.070 --> 00:51:59.110
I think if the bobcat was trying to get in

982
00:51:59.150 --> 00:52:02.409
someone's mouth, I think that things would be different.

983
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:10.460
Touche. That is a very good point, Chell. Yeah. I'm

984
00:52:10.500 --> 00:52:13.769
giving you that one. Thanks. That's a solid one. No,

985
00:52:13.849 --> 00:52:18.610
like legit. You got me on that. Okay. Okay. Okay. No, no,

986
00:52:18.630 --> 00:52:22.030
you're right. Enjoy your victory. Celebrate the way you must.

987
00:52:23.590 --> 00:52:27.840
Ay yi yi. Wildlife officials sedated the animal and cut

988
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:33.000
its head off. No. And transported it to a wilderness

989
00:52:33.059 --> 00:52:34.539
area near Forbes Creek.

990
00:52:35.050 --> 00:52:35.800
Yay.

991
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:37.900
See, so that you're like, oh, thank goodness. So I

992
00:52:37.900 --> 00:52:41.539
could go back to killing other things, not being killed. Yeah.

993
00:52:41.579 --> 00:52:43.659
I mean, it's a, it's a wild animal.

994
00:52:43.900 --> 00:52:47.170
So the circle of life.

995
00:52:48.090 --> 00:52:48.429
Yeah.

996
00:52:48.849 --> 00:52:50.909
Well, I always felt bad because I would, you know,

997
00:52:51.170 --> 00:52:53.250
if I had a rodent issue or something, I think that,

998
00:52:53.349 --> 00:52:56.510
you know, um, as pets, rats and mice are, are fine,

999
00:52:56.989 --> 00:53:01.469
but you know, wild ones are not the same thing, obviously. And, uh,

1000
00:53:01.900 --> 00:53:03.519
But I would not want to put out like I

1001
00:53:03.539 --> 00:53:06.559
would feel bad trapping them. I feel bad like hurting them.

1002
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.219
But if you use a humane trap and catch them

1003
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:11.219
and then take them to the woods and let them go,

1004
00:53:11.300 --> 00:53:13.280
it's like you're just saying, like, I want you to die,

1005
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:15.980
but not while I'm watching. I want nature to kill

1006
00:53:16.019 --> 00:53:18.639
you because you need to be around a house to survive.

1007
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:21.340
But I'd rather not know about it. I just want

1008
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:22.780
my hands clean. Same result.

1009
00:53:23.260 --> 00:53:26.030
I mean, I think that that's an interesting way to

1010
00:53:26.050 --> 00:53:27.829
look at it. I think what you're really doing is saying.

1011
00:53:28.260 --> 00:53:30.679
Is saying, here, have a quick vacation and then come

1012
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:32.920
back to my house. I'll see you in a week.

1013
00:53:33.539 --> 00:53:36.179
Oh, oh, no, no. The time that I did that,

1014
00:53:36.539 --> 00:53:38.500
that I put him out, I drove four miles or

1015
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:39.780
five miles from my house.

1016
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:40.599
That's okay.

1017
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:43.530
Yeah, I really put it far away.

1018
00:53:43.820 --> 00:53:45.760
That's okay. It just went into someone else's house.

1019
00:53:45.989 --> 00:53:47.929
I was about to say, the number one move would

1020
00:53:47.949 --> 00:53:49.469
be to just put it in a house of somebody

1021
00:53:49.489 --> 00:53:52.630
you don't like. Yeah, yeah. And be like, here, they

1022
00:53:52.650 --> 00:53:57.289
can kill you. Oh. Police determined the Bobcat. Oh, sorry,

1023
00:53:57.309 --> 00:53:57.949
you were going to say something?

1024
00:53:58.329 --> 00:54:00.389
I was going to say that there was a study done,

1025
00:54:00.429 --> 00:54:03.420
and I don't remember what, like, college or something did

1026
00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:08.440
it recently, that determined that, like, a good 70% of

1027
00:54:08.539 --> 00:54:15.610
house mice in the northeast U.S. are immune in some

1028
00:54:15.650 --> 00:54:17.489
capacity to mouse poison now.

1029
00:54:20.110 --> 00:54:23.949
That makes sense because they breed so fast. So generations

1030
00:54:23.989 --> 00:54:25.360
go really, really, really fast.

1031
00:54:25.739 --> 00:54:28.800
Yeah, and apparently rats just are too smart to get

1032
00:54:28.940 --> 00:54:30.699
in traps now, too.

1033
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:36.360
Lucky. Well, I believe that to an extent. I guess

1034
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:40.550
it's over for us. Good. Luckily, if Rat Tattooie taught

1035
00:54:40.590 --> 00:54:43.750
me anything, it's that it'll work out as long as

1036
00:54:43.789 --> 00:54:47.409
we all set our differences aside and enjoy home cooking.

1037
00:54:47.449 --> 00:54:48.389
Like sit in each other's hair.

1038
00:54:48.429 --> 00:54:48.510
Yeah.

1039
00:54:48.849 --> 00:54:53.280
Yeah. Police determined the bobcat had most likely climbed a

1040
00:54:53.340 --> 00:54:55.880
tree and jumped into the house through an open window. Okay,

1041
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:58.159
this is your fault. You had a window just open

1042
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:01.199
with no screen. Well, because if it had a screen,

1043
00:55:01.219 --> 00:55:03.199
they'd be able to say we saw the screen was busted.

1044
00:55:03.869 --> 00:55:04.769
Yeah, so we know.

1045
00:55:05.230 --> 00:55:07.489
So it must have been no screen. So it's like, okay, yeah,

1046
00:55:07.789 --> 00:55:10.550
that's your fault. That is not the cat's fault. The

1047
00:55:10.570 --> 00:55:12.750
cat was like, oh, hey, maybe I can kill some

1048
00:55:12.789 --> 00:55:14.030
innocent people. It's open.

1049
00:55:14.050 --> 00:55:14.469
Yeah.

1050
00:55:15.469 --> 00:55:17.369
I don't, Hey, if the cat's not like, I'm going

1051
00:55:17.389 --> 00:55:19.730
to get in there no matter what. It's just like, eh,

1052
00:55:19.750 --> 00:55:21.280
if there's something to kill in there, I'll kill it.

1053
00:55:21.309 --> 00:55:24.590
I'm like, okay, fair enough. You're, you're a predator. It's

1054
00:55:24.650 --> 00:55:27.639
different when they like, they like really want to violate

1055
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:30.619
the sanctity of your, of your home. That's when I

1056
00:55:30.659 --> 00:55:32.800
have a problem. It's like, oh, you left a window

1057
00:55:32.860 --> 00:55:36.739
open while you were asleep. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. Come on.

1058
00:55:36.780 --> 00:55:39.179
I mean, full open, open enough that a bobcat can

1059
00:55:39.219 --> 00:55:39.480
get in.

1060
00:55:40.409 --> 00:55:43.030
That's that's pretty open really yeah.

1061
00:55:42.929 --> 00:55:48.679
Yeah bobcats are not the tiniest cats um probably police

1062
00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:50.599
determined the bobcat had mostly climbed in through the window

1063
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.559
they suspect it may have been pursuing the resident's cat

1064
00:55:54.780 --> 00:55:57.219
which was later found dead inside the home no no

1065
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:01.079
was later found unharmed inside the home i'm sorry i

1066
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:04.559
do not dislike cats i just find their indifference towards

1067
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:09.030
cruelty amusing so so really i'm making jokes a cat

1068
00:56:09.070 --> 00:56:10.610
would make in my opinion I.

1069
00:56:10.590 --> 00:56:14.280
Don't find cats indifferent towards cruelty, really.

1070
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:15.820
I wasn't going to go that far and say that

1071
00:56:15.860 --> 00:56:17.780
they love cruelty. I was trying to be nice, but

1072
00:56:18.699 --> 00:56:20.880
you kind of nailed it. Yeah, yeah.

1073
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:24.489
You don't have to, like, lie.

1074
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:33.280
Well, luckily, no cat was harmed. Good. So, we're going

1075
00:56:33.300 --> 00:56:34.739
to take a quick break, and when we get back,

1076
00:56:35.340 --> 00:56:40.789
we're heading to the Pentagon for some more Shocking UFO files.

1077
00:56:41.750 --> 00:56:41.829
Oh.

1078
00:56:43.289 --> 00:56:55.579
After this. Chell?

1079
00:56:57.139 --> 00:56:59.500
Yeah?

1080
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:01.840
Are you ready to apologize to the cat lovers in

1081
00:57:01.860 --> 00:57:05.429
the audience? Um.

1082
00:57:07.050 --> 00:57:10.670
No. Yes? Yes? I knew if I challenged you, you

1083
00:57:10.690 --> 00:57:13.010
would assume that you did something you don't remember that's bad.

1084
00:57:13.429 --> 00:57:15.409
Yeah.

1085
00:57:15.449 --> 00:57:19.289
Yeah. It's a serious problem you have. Emotional problem. Yeah.

1086
00:57:19.309 --> 00:57:20.849
All right.

1087
00:57:20.869 --> 00:57:26.070
We're heading to WBTV.com for the headline, Pentagon releases another

1088
00:57:26.130 --> 00:57:33.400
batch of UFO files, including documents from secretive government program. Oh, okay. Well,

1089
00:57:33.420 --> 00:57:35.980
you know how these disclosures are. Every time they're mind-blowing

1090
00:57:36.059 --> 00:57:39.369
and definitely tell you they're really... I almost said ghosts.

1091
00:57:39.489 --> 00:57:42.929
That's how, uh, how, how invested I am. I'm sorry. Look,

1092
00:57:43.849 --> 00:57:47.550
no hate to the alien believing people, including my buddy, Dan,

1093
00:57:47.570 --> 00:57:51.360
who's listening to this. I'm sure. Uh, I don't, but

1094
00:57:51.409 --> 00:57:54.199
I don't, the thing I don't like is the argument,

1095
00:57:55.340 --> 00:57:57.320
you know, like you really, you think with the universe

1096
00:57:57.360 --> 00:57:59.760
so vast that there's no other life. No, that's not

1097
00:57:59.780 --> 00:58:01.099
what I said. What I said is I don't think

1098
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:05.570
aliens are like in Nevada. That's what I meant. I

1099
00:58:05.590 --> 00:58:08.570
don't know that I believe they have this insanely advanced

1100
00:58:08.590 --> 00:58:12.610
technology and that they're just literally flying to Earth, hanging out,

1101
00:58:12.769 --> 00:58:17.340
and then it's being kept a perfect secret. That's where

1102
00:58:17.389 --> 00:58:20.739
I struggle. But then I'll hear things like, but did

1103
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:22.679
you see all the disclosures? And then the disclosures are

1104
00:58:22.699 --> 00:58:26.739
all third-hand information being disclosed. I'm like, this isn't really...

1105
00:58:26.460 --> 00:58:29.519
I mean, it's interesting. It's food for thought. But it's

1106
00:58:29.579 --> 00:58:33.409
not mind-blowing for me. Yeah. Yeah.

1107
00:58:33.530 --> 00:58:36.469
I don't know. I also think we probably didn't experiment

1108
00:58:36.550 --> 00:58:39.050
on aliens because if we did, I'm pretty sure the

1109
00:58:39.130 --> 00:58:40.449
aliens would come and kill us.

1110
00:58:41.349 --> 00:58:46.090
So unless it's game respects game, they're like, damn, you

1111
00:58:46.110 --> 00:58:51.440
made you cured polio with Rob Rogers body. Sure. Yeah. Okay.

1112
00:58:51.460 --> 00:58:52.639
I mean, we do the same thing.

1113
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:54.489
Yeah, we would do. No, we did. That's why we

1114
00:58:54.550 --> 00:58:58.429
live like, you know, 850 of your earth years, you know,

1115
00:58:58.809 --> 00:59:00.889
is we made those sacrifices when we had that kind

1116
00:59:00.909 --> 00:59:02.929
of problem. But then, of course, we invented a mathematical

1117
00:59:02.969 --> 00:59:05.170
equation that would calculate every illness. And now we don't

1118
00:59:05.269 --> 00:59:05.880
have to do any of it.

1119
00:59:06.349 --> 00:59:06.510
Yeah.

1120
00:59:09.610 --> 00:59:13.329
I like. the future. Anyway, the Pentagon released another batch

1121
00:59:13.369 --> 00:59:16.659
of UFO files on Friday. The new disclosure includes a

1122
00:59:16.699 --> 00:59:21.539
total of 71 files dated from 1952 to 2025. Among

1123
00:59:21.579 --> 00:59:24.199
them are documents from a military program that studied warp

1124
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:29.039
drives and wormholes. Aww. Do you think the term wormhole

1125
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:30.489
is cute, or what is it?

1126
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:32.699
I was about warp drives.

1127
00:59:33.380 --> 00:59:36.679
Oh, I mean, I love me some Star Trek. Yeah.

1128
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:39.929
I know you enjoy yourself some Star Trek. Mm-hmm. I

1129
00:59:39.969 --> 00:59:41.010
can't tell you how many times I've talked to you

1130
00:59:41.050 --> 00:59:43.469
on the phone and heard the Next Generation theme start playing.

1131
00:59:43.769 --> 00:59:44.489
Yeah.

1132
00:59:44.530 --> 00:59:45.309
The Pluto channel, right?

1133
00:59:46.010 --> 00:59:48.429
Yeah, I haven't watched that in a long time, but yeah. Oh,

1134
00:59:48.510 --> 00:59:49.690
I'm sad.

1135
00:59:49.710 --> 00:59:56.420
Sorry. The documents called Defense Intelligence Reference Documents were produced

1136
00:59:56.519 --> 01:00:00.869
under the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program, according to

1137
01:00:00.909 --> 01:00:08.789
CBS News. The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program, or AWSAP,

1138
01:00:09.329 --> 01:00:14.929
was a secretive military operation started in 2008. This is

1139
01:00:15.030 --> 01:00:17.989
why people don't trust the news sometimes. So it's not

1140
01:00:18.050 --> 01:00:23.929
a secret operation. Military operation. It's a secretive military. That's

1141
01:00:24.030 --> 01:00:27.610
very different. Secret would mean people don't know it exists.

1142
01:00:27.650 --> 01:00:30.610
Secretive would just mean that they keep secrets, which I

1143
01:00:30.650 --> 01:00:34.769
think every organization to some extent keeps some secrets.

1144
01:00:35.449 --> 01:00:37.610
I mean, I guess that's true unless it really is

1145
01:00:37.670 --> 01:00:40.280
secret and the person just miss, you know, spoke.

1146
01:00:40.579 --> 01:00:42.659
That's worse. That's worse.

1147
01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:46.420
But I feel like that's more likely considering what we've read.

1148
01:00:46.949 --> 01:00:49.949
Okay. Oh, man. Chell's got her claws out today.

1149
01:00:49.969 --> 01:00:50.670
I'm sorry.

1150
01:00:51.409 --> 01:00:55.320
Wow. That was kind of brutal. But fair. According to

1151
01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:58.940
files released about the program, its objective was to, quote,

1152
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:02.340
understand the physics and engineering of these applications as they

1153
01:01:02.380 --> 01:01:06.369
apply to the foreign threat out to the far term, i.e.

1154
01:01:06.389 --> 01:01:10.869
from now through the year 2050. Now, did they pick

1155
01:01:10.889 --> 01:01:12.929
that number out of a hat or was there like

1156
01:01:12.949 --> 01:01:15.960
a disheveled time traveler that burst into a building yelling

1157
01:01:16.019 --> 01:01:18.920
about 2050 and then his heart exploded? I want to know.

1158
01:01:18.940 --> 01:01:20.019
I mean, it.

1159
01:01:21.530 --> 01:01:23.469
It could be both. They could have entered it into

1160
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:26.219
the hat because of the disheveled time traveler.

1161
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:27.480
Fingers crossed.

1162
01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:28.780
Yeah.

1163
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:34.559
The 37 defense intelligence reference documents released during the Friday's

1164
01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:38.610
batch discussed matters such as warp drives, wormholes, anti-gravity, negative

1165
01:01:38.670 --> 01:01:43.750
mass propulsion, and invisibility cloaking. So it's just almost all

1166
01:01:43.809 --> 01:01:48.349
Star Trek. Yeah. Almost all Star Trek. One of the

1167
01:01:48.389 --> 01:01:52.760
documents included a, quote, highly technical study from 2010 that analyzed, quote,

1168
01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:57.440
evidence of unintended injury to human observers by anomalous advanced

1169
01:01:57.579 --> 01:01:58.599
aerospace systems.

1170
01:02:00.300 --> 01:02:00.659
Okay.

1171
01:02:01.530 --> 01:02:04.750
According to CBS News, the study's researchers observed three individuals

1172
01:02:04.789 --> 01:02:07.429
who suffered from a slew of medical symptoms after an

1173
01:02:07.489 --> 01:02:12.199
anomalous aerospace related event. The researchers said the previously, quote,

1174
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:15.639
fit and active individuals suffered from hair loss as well

1175
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:18.980
as heat and redness on their skin. One individual also

1176
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:21.989
showed signs of, quote, well, oh, this is, you know what?

1177
01:02:22.030 --> 01:02:24.530
I think you're right, Chell, about the secretive thing being wrong.

1178
01:02:24.550 --> 01:02:28.789
Because listen to this line. One individual also showed signs of, quote,

1179
01:02:29.010 --> 01:02:30.610
signs of radiation illness.

1180
01:02:31.889 --> 01:02:34.949
Why wouldn't they just not, why wouldn't they just say, quote,

1181
01:02:35.389 --> 01:02:36.510
I don't understand.

1182
01:02:36.530 --> 01:02:40.050
I guess they were signs of signs, which is extra

1183
01:02:40.090 --> 01:02:43.829
hard to narrow down and extra dangerous. That would make

1184
01:02:43.869 --> 01:02:46.360
it almost assuredly from space, just the fact that it

1185
01:02:46.409 --> 01:02:53.750
was signs of signs. Yeah. Along with the defense intelligence

1186
01:02:53.789 --> 01:02:56.940
reference documents, the batch included videos from military cameras capturing

1187
01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:00.480
unexplained objects moving at fast speeds. Many of the videos

1188
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:04.159
appear similar to those released in previous batches, grainy footage

1189
01:03:04.179 --> 01:03:07.739
of an unusual object moving quickly across the screen. Four

1190
01:03:07.780 --> 01:03:10.519
of the videos were submitted by a police department in Colorado.

1191
01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:14.610
The videos captured on cell phone cameras in October of

1192
01:03:14.610 --> 01:03:20.409
2023 featured unexplained red, blue, and green flashing lights. Since

1193
01:03:20.449 --> 01:03:23.630
Congress ordered their release in 2022, the Pentagon has been

1194
01:03:23.670 --> 01:03:31.110
working to declassify records on, quote, unidentified anomalous phenomena. UAP

1195
01:03:31.190 --> 01:03:33.050
is not happening. Oh, and then right next to this,

1196
01:03:33.210 --> 01:03:37.909
and UFO sightings. Ha! UFO, baby, it's here to stay.

1197
01:03:38.130 --> 01:03:42.130
Don't care. We're here to stay. We're the aliens called

1198
01:03:42.190 --> 01:03:45.590
the Greys. Anyway. Are you one of those people who

1199
01:03:45.610 --> 01:03:48.599
believes it's rhyming to rhyme a non-plural version with a

1200
01:03:48.619 --> 01:03:50.860
plural form? Cause I, that drives me crazy.

1201
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:55.400
I think I, I think I, I'm going to disagree

1202
01:03:55.420 --> 01:04:01.449
with you here. And I think that I'm okay with rhyming. Oh, okay. No, no, no. I,

1203
01:04:01.710 --> 01:04:02.449
I disagree with you.

1204
01:04:02.489 --> 01:04:06.250
I think. Oh, so like rhyming, like Ray with stays.

1205
01:04:07.889 --> 01:04:10.860
I mean, it's, It's a little off. It's that thing

1206
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:13.619
where it's like almost a rhyme, but not exactly. But

1207
01:04:13.829 --> 01:04:16.369
to me, good enough. You can do it.

1208
01:04:16.389 --> 01:04:18.070
We're actually on the same side. I think it's good enough,

1209
01:04:18.110 --> 01:04:21.409
but I also go like, ah, it doesn't flow for me.

1210
01:04:21.909 --> 01:04:23.489
And it's all about the flow.

1211
01:04:24.090 --> 01:04:24.530
Yeah.

1212
01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:28.139
This is the sixth release under the Trump administration's effort

1213
01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:33.289
to declassify those records. Experts urge caution regarding the released files,

1214
01:04:33.309 --> 01:04:36.769
saying the videos of unidentified anomalous phenomena can be misinterpreted

1215
01:04:36.849 --> 01:04:41.130
or mischaracterized by people who lack an understanding of advanced

1216
01:04:41.230 --> 01:04:42.489
military technology.

1217
01:04:43.130 --> 01:04:43.769
There you go.

1218
01:04:43.989 --> 01:04:46.010
Well, whose fault is that? Is it our fault or

1219
01:04:46.050 --> 01:04:48.119
is it the secretive organization's fault?

1220
01:04:48.619 --> 01:04:51.340
Yeah, you have to tell us what the technology is. Otherwise,

1221
01:04:51.380 --> 01:04:54.380
how am I supposed to know what it looks like when.

1222
01:04:54.300 --> 01:04:55.820
I see it? Hell yeah.

1223
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:57.920
It's a UFO from not here.

1224
01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:02.760
Yeah, from not here. Yeah. In 2024, the Pentagon released

1225
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:05.019
a report that refuted claims that the U.S. government had

1226
01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:09.320
confirmed the existence of alien life or recovered alien technology.

1227
01:05:11.030 --> 01:05:15.349
So there, that's what that said. Yeah. Well, we're going

1228
01:05:15.369 --> 01:05:17.130
to take a quick break, but when we get back,

1229
01:05:17.650 --> 01:05:20.230
we're going to look at a little... This isn't a

1230
01:05:20.269 --> 01:05:22.409
follow-up to our show, because I don't think we covered

1231
01:05:22.429 --> 01:05:26.619
the original release, but a little information, more information has

1232
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:30.570
been discovered about a supposed... Vampire corpse.

1233
01:05:31.570 --> 01:05:31.670
Oh.

1234
01:05:33.070 --> 01:05:34.730
Right after this. Not a very good vampire if you

1235
01:05:34.750 --> 01:05:48.960
end up a corpse, though. It happens. All right, Chell.

1236
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:54.730
We're going to head to your ancestral homeland. Well, not really,

1237
01:05:54.829 --> 01:05:58.489
because of the New York Post. Oh, okay. The story

1238
01:05:58.550 --> 01:06:00.849
isn't in New York, but it's from the New York Post. Okay.

1239
01:06:01.469 --> 01:06:05.809
This is the headline reading, Vampire, in quotes, so feared

1240
01:06:05.889 --> 01:06:09.550
she was locked in a booby-trapped grave was teenage girl

1241
01:06:09.610 --> 01:06:13.090
who met horror movie-like fate. Experts. I love how they

1242
01:06:13.699 --> 01:06:18.079
cut as many words as they can, such as experts. The, quote,

1243
01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:21.019
real-life vampire who was so feared that she was buried

1244
01:06:21.059 --> 01:06:24.960
in a padlocked, booby-trapped grave... was actually a teenage girl

1245
01:06:25.460 --> 01:06:29.639
whose death remains shrouded in mystery, experts said.

1246
01:06:29.659 --> 01:06:34.639
Okay, I'm just going to say this right now. How

1247
01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:37.900
do we know that the booby traps and padlocks were

1248
01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:39.780
to keep her in and not other people out?

1249
01:06:41.300 --> 01:06:43.900
Well, I mean, keeping other people out would be keeping

1250
01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:44.380
her in.

1251
01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:51.730
Yes, but I'm saying, like, the difference between Her being

1252
01:06:51.769 --> 01:06:54.250
the issue and the other people being the issue.

1253
01:06:55.829 --> 01:06:59.429
I think it can be both on this one. That's

1254
01:06:59.469 --> 01:07:00.409
my personal opinion.

1255
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:01.139
Okay.

1256
01:07:01.860 --> 01:07:07.340
The girl, nicknamed Zozia, by researchers, was unearthed in 2022

1257
01:07:07.340 --> 01:07:12.679
in an eerie 400-year-old unmarked burial site in Poland, where

1258
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:16.159
16th century villagers put the remains of dozens of people

1259
01:07:16.619 --> 01:07:22.929
they believed were vampires or demons. Zosia was buried with

1260
01:07:22.989 --> 01:07:25.929
a sickle set up across her neck in a Rube

1261
01:07:25.969 --> 01:07:29.690
Goldberg type setup that experts believe was intended to behead

1262
01:07:29.750 --> 01:07:33.869
her if she became reanimated and tried to emerge from

1263
01:07:33.929 --> 01:07:34.429
the grave.

1264
01:07:35.269 --> 01:07:37.469
Why didn't they just behead her to begin with?

1265
01:07:37.780 --> 01:07:40.800
I don't know. Somebody was probably squeamish.

1266
01:07:41.219 --> 01:07:42.059
Yeah, they were like, yeah.

1267
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:44.659
Oh, no, I can't. I can't do that. Well, okay, no,

1268
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:47.539
I get it. So that suggests that there was some

1269
01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:48.500
amount of doubt.

1270
01:07:49.539 --> 01:07:49.659
Mm-hmm.

1271
01:07:50.059 --> 01:07:51.719
That she was a vampire. So they were trying to

1272
01:07:51.780 --> 01:07:55.599
do some amount of respect for her body. Okay. For

1273
01:07:55.619 --> 01:08:00.210
her remains. Now, I don't know if, okay. So, uh,

1274
01:08:00.369 --> 01:08:03.070
it looks like she was not murdered for being a vampire.

1275
01:08:04.289 --> 01:08:07.070
So it's just that somebody had a hunch. Okay.

1276
01:08:07.090 --> 01:08:07.230
Yeah.

1277
01:08:07.309 --> 01:08:09.389
I mean, yeah, everybody was murdered. That was just, that

1278
01:08:09.409 --> 01:08:14.360
was just Tuesday. Um, Now researchers say Zosia was actually

1279
01:08:14.380 --> 01:08:17.119
a girl between the ages of 17 and 19 who

1280
01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:20.340
did not die by violence or disease, but was likely

1281
01:08:20.460 --> 01:08:25.399
blamed for a local famine or virus outbreak. Okay, I

1282
01:08:25.430 --> 01:08:31.949
must have misread that. So she was killed. According to

1283
01:08:31.989 --> 01:08:34.569
a new study published in the Journal of Archaeological Science.

1284
01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:37.600
The girl was initially thought to have been sacrificed over

1285
01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:40.600
that fear, but new research determined there is no evidence

1286
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:43.060
to back up how she died before she met her

1287
01:08:43.590 --> 01:08:44.699
horror movie fate.

1288
01:08:45.989 --> 01:08:47.050
So, okay.

1289
01:08:47.989 --> 01:08:50.890
Researchers had previously determined she was initially buried with a

1290
01:08:50.909 --> 01:08:54.569
padlock fastened to her toe, which researchers said was a

1291
01:08:54.630 --> 01:08:58.189
common practice at the time due to irrational fears from

1292
01:08:58.270 --> 01:09:20.859
villagers that the dead could rise forever. Okay. Okay. But

1293
01:09:20.899 --> 01:09:25.020
their belief that she was a vampire came post-mortem.

1294
01:09:25.340 --> 01:09:26.399
That's really interesting.

1295
01:09:26.420 --> 01:09:28.300
That kind of makes sense. I mean, that would be

1296
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:34.060
the ultimate proof. I saw her, I swear. Well, she's dead. Exactly. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay.

1297
01:09:34.649 --> 01:09:38.100
Yeah, so next time she tries to get out and

1298
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:40.899
cause a famine or whatever, she won't be able to

1299
01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:42.680
when her head will get chopped off. Got it.

1300
01:09:42.699 --> 01:09:44.720
Yeah, but we don't want to preemptively chop her head

1301
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:46.500
off because we're trying to respect her remains.

1302
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:49.819
Yeah, we don't know for sure, but we're pretty sure.

1303
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:50.939
Yeah, we're sure enough.

1304
01:09:51.430 --> 01:09:53.250
Yeah.

1305
01:09:53.289 --> 01:09:57.750
The iron sickle came later. Research into her bones and

1306
01:09:57.829 --> 01:10:03.689
teeth found an abnormality. In Zozia's breast, a physical deformity

1307
01:10:03.729 --> 01:10:06.569
that caused her great pain and may have, quote, marked

1308
01:10:06.609 --> 01:10:09.409
her in a negative way and sparked fears that she

1309
01:10:09.449 --> 01:10:11.430
had supernatural powers.

1310
01:10:12.130 --> 01:10:12.430
Wow.

1311
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.039
But despite the fear she may have instilled into the

1312
01:10:16.100 --> 01:10:18.600
hearts of her neighbors, the girl was buried in a

1313
01:10:18.659 --> 01:10:22.100
coffin wearing a silk cap trimmed with real silver and

1314
01:10:22.180 --> 01:10:26.970
gold threads. A sign researchers said means she likely came

1315
01:10:27.050 --> 01:10:30.189
from a wealthy or noble family, and was not an

1316
01:10:30.390 --> 01:10:35.909
ordinary villager or peasant. Okay. So now we get why

1317
01:10:35.949 --> 01:10:36.789
they're respecting her.

1318
01:10:37.750 --> 01:10:38.930
Mm-hmm, I guess.

1319
01:10:39.869 --> 01:10:43.609
Enough, you know, respecting her enough. Yeah. Her DNA also

1320
01:10:43.689 --> 01:10:47.960
showed a distant connection to Scandinavia, though evidence suggests she

1321
01:10:48.020 --> 01:10:50.840
actually grew up in the area with researchers dating her

1322
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:55.060
death to the mid-1600s. I mean, I don't know, sounding

1323
01:10:55.079 --> 01:11:01.439
more and more like a vampire to me. Scandinavia. Though

1324
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:06.260
the modern concept of vampires came later, Eastern Europeans initially

1325
01:11:06.300 --> 01:11:10.550
became fearful of the monsters in the 11th century, believing that, quote,

1326
01:11:10.850 --> 01:11:13.649
some people who died would claw their way out of

1327
01:11:13.710 --> 01:11:18.630
the grave as blood-sucking monsters that terrorized the living. according

1328
01:11:18.670 --> 01:11:20.989
to Smithsonian Magazine. I mean, that sounds pretty close to

1329
01:11:21.010 --> 01:11:24.109
the modern concept of vampires. I guess other than the

1330
01:11:24.130 --> 01:11:26.789
part that I guess they start in the grave always,

1331
01:11:27.229 --> 01:11:30.109
as opposed to like, you know, getting bitten and becoming

1332
01:11:30.130 --> 01:11:33.079
a vampire or whatever. It's that they're always interred and

1333
01:11:33.100 --> 01:11:33.640
they come out.

1334
01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:37.500
Yeah, I guess it probably depends on, because I think

1335
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:42.739
some vampires, you know, because they're real, sometimes they start

1336
01:11:43.319 --> 01:11:45.699
in the grave. Like if you sucked all of the

1337
01:11:45.739 --> 01:11:49.220
person's blood out, first then they would be dead so

1338
01:11:49.260 --> 01:11:50.880
they'd start in the grave.

1339
01:11:51.020 --> 01:11:52.619
Well and there are a bunch of these things with

1340
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:55.600
vampire uh stories too where it's like you get bitten

1341
01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:58.579
that doesn't like necessarily mean you'll be a vampire like

1342
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:00.119
there's another step.

1343
01:11:59.979 --> 01:12:02.199
You gotta be like sired yeah you have to yeah.

1344
01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:05.899
Yeah also the idea that like uh that it hits

1345
01:12:05.930 --> 01:12:08.390
a really long takes a really long time to hit

1346
01:12:08.470 --> 01:12:12.409
versus it happens instantly you know all these different things

1347
01:12:12.609 --> 01:12:14.489
but also the idea that you could become a vampire

1348
01:12:14.510 --> 01:12:16.229
from a curse which could have been placed on you

1349
01:12:16.289 --> 01:12:19.420
after you were buried Or a curse that says once

1350
01:12:19.460 --> 01:12:22.020
you die, you'll become one. Hence, you'd be buried and

1351
01:12:22.039 --> 01:12:25.890
then become one. Sure. You know, stuff like that. By

1352
01:12:25.930 --> 01:12:30.590
the 17th century, quote, unusual burial practices became common across

1353
01:12:30.649 --> 01:12:36.789
Poland in response to a reported outbreak of vampires. Science alert. Reported. Well,

1354
01:12:36.810 --> 01:12:38.850
that doesn't sound like it was uncommon. It sounds like

1355
01:12:38.970 --> 01:12:41.350
that would not be an unusual burial practice anymore. That'd

1356
01:12:41.369 --> 01:12:44.710
be a common burial practice. I think we need to

1357
01:12:44.729 --> 01:12:48.260
show a little bit more respect for their cultural choices. Yeah.

1358
01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:51.649
I have heard a lot of those weird stories. We're

1359
01:12:51.659 --> 01:12:54.630
going to do in November a terrifying and true all

1360
01:12:54.670 --> 01:12:59.289
about the New England vampire scare, which is really interesting

1361
01:12:59.310 --> 01:13:01.510
because you can like if you know where to go,

1362
01:13:02.050 --> 01:13:03.850
you can like go to New England and like visit

1363
01:13:03.890 --> 01:13:07.189
all these vampire graves, supposed graves that people thought were

1364
01:13:07.250 --> 01:13:09.369
definitely vampires. It's pretty wild.

1365
01:13:10.329 --> 01:13:12.010
You should go there. All of them.

1366
01:13:12.449 --> 01:13:14.869
I mean, I it might happen. I'm going to probably

1367
01:13:14.909 --> 01:13:17.680
go to New England next year. For like a week

1368
01:13:17.739 --> 01:13:22.939
or so. Okay. Because I found out my family's genealogy stuff,

1369
01:13:22.970 --> 01:13:24.210
you know, and they ended up, they were all in

1370
01:13:24.250 --> 01:13:27.050
New Bedford, Massachusetts. I looked into it, found out New

1371
01:13:27.090 --> 01:13:31.649
Bedford is like the greatest cultural hub of Portuguese in America. Yeah.

1372
01:13:32.010 --> 01:13:34.649
And then on top of that, I have like so

1373
01:13:34.689 --> 01:13:38.470
many family ties, but then also they have an incredible

1374
01:13:38.529 --> 01:13:42.699
amount of folklore. Hmm. And true crime, too, because when

1375
01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:45.840
I was doing our last one of this month's episodes

1376
01:13:45.859 --> 01:13:48.899
of Terrifying and True about Lizzie Borden, she was tried

1377
01:13:48.939 --> 01:13:53.510
at the New Bedford courthouse. Oh, OK. It didn't happen

1378
01:13:53.569 --> 01:13:55.729
in New Bedford, but that was the closest courthouse to

1379
01:13:55.750 --> 01:13:59.770
the town she was in. So but but so I

1380
01:13:59.789 --> 01:14:01.529
looked into it and they have like all these crazy

1381
01:14:01.550 --> 01:14:03.569
stories about like I guess one of the big ones

1382
01:14:03.630 --> 01:14:06.909
is a well-known Portuguese sailor went out for a basic

1383
01:14:06.949 --> 01:14:09.449
fishing trip and never came home. And he was like

1384
01:14:09.470 --> 01:14:12.880
the most experienced sailor that had ever been at port there.

1385
01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:15.579
So people still talk about like what happened to him,

1386
01:14:15.779 --> 01:14:17.800
how he wouldn't have gotten lost and stuff. Like it

1387
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:20.420
doesn't make any sense. And apparently there's like, there's like

1388
01:14:20.460 --> 01:14:22.970
a new Bedford nautical society that like tracks all the

1389
01:14:23.020 --> 01:14:27.229
folklore related to nautical stuff. So I'm still like brainstorming,

1390
01:14:27.289 --> 01:14:28.489
but I think I'm going to go out there and

1391
01:14:28.529 --> 01:14:31.289
get either a hotel room or an Airbnb, you know,

1392
01:14:31.369 --> 01:14:33.069
and stay for a week, do a little bit of

1393
01:14:33.109 --> 01:14:35.979
genealogy stuff, but then do like a ton of folklore stuff.

1394
01:14:36.949 --> 01:14:40.850
They also apparently have like a weekly supernatural radio show

1395
01:14:40.890 --> 01:14:42.489
that's really popular in New Bedford. So I'm going to

1396
01:14:42.510 --> 01:14:44.390
try and get the guy who hosts it to talk

1397
01:14:44.430 --> 01:14:44.989
to me too.

1398
01:14:45.270 --> 01:14:46.090
That'd be cool.

1399
01:14:46.189 --> 01:14:47.689
See if I can get like the historical people and

1400
01:14:47.710 --> 01:14:49.529
stuff like that to do little interviews so I can

1401
01:14:49.550 --> 01:14:53.130
make like a little bit more involved, terrifying and true episodes. Yeah.

1402
01:14:54.029 --> 01:14:57.279
So we'll see how that goes. But mostly I really

1403
01:14:57.380 --> 01:14:59.800
just want to have some of that Portuguese sweet bread,

1404
01:14:59.859 --> 01:15:04.640
which sounds so good right now. I'm so hungry. Sorry. No,

1405
01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:06.779
you're not. We're going to take a quick break. And

1406
01:15:06.899 --> 01:15:10.770
when we get back, we are heading to near your

1407
01:15:10.909 --> 01:15:14.430
ancestral homeland. We're going to Long Island.

1408
01:15:15.149 --> 01:15:16.170
Okay, close enough.

1409
01:15:16.390 --> 01:15:18.189
It's close. I'm not saying it is, but it's close.

1410
01:15:18.229 --> 01:15:20.569
It's close. Like Spain is close to my ancestral homeland.

1411
01:15:20.609 --> 01:15:24.409
It's not, it isn't literally, but it's close. But for

1412
01:15:25.140 --> 01:15:39.609
a discovery that was pretty surprising right after this. All right, Chell.

1413
01:15:40.130 --> 01:15:44.029
Let's head to Long Island. Now, as someone from Da Bronx,

1414
01:15:45.300 --> 01:15:46.760
how do you feel about Long Island?

1415
01:15:47.500 --> 01:15:50.680
I don't really have any feelings about Long Island, except

1416
01:15:50.699 --> 01:15:53.340
that I want to pronounce it Long Island really bad.

1417
01:15:53.460 --> 01:15:54.439
Long Island?

1418
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:56.380
Long Island. Oh, yeah.

1419
01:15:56.479 --> 01:15:58.979
Is that a you thing?

1420
01:15:59.430 --> 01:16:00.630
No, it's not a me thing.

1421
01:16:00.789 --> 01:16:01.890
Who does that? Everybody?

1422
01:16:02.170 --> 01:16:02.649
Everybody.

1423
01:16:03.090 --> 01:16:04.029
Everybody from Da Bronx?

1424
01:16:04.470 --> 01:16:05.949
Everybody from Long Island.

1425
01:16:06.130 --> 01:16:09.329
Long Island. Oh, yeah. I totally think I've heard that, actually.

1426
01:16:10.109 --> 01:16:13.300
Long Island. Long Island. I mean, it's not like Trenton,

1427
01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:17.659
where they just remove a T. Trenton. Or Florida, when

1428
01:16:17.699 --> 01:16:19.119
it's Florida. It's Florida.

1429
01:16:19.659 --> 01:16:20.159
Florida.

1430
01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:25.800
Florida. There you go. Sounded better. No. Well, the headline reads,

1431
01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:30.720
Crocodile found on Long Island Nature Preserve walking trail. Oh. $ 1, 000

1432
01:16:30.619 --> 01:16:32.279
offered for arrest in illegal dumping.

1433
01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:39.380
Oh, that sucks. The poor crocodile.

1434
01:16:39.739 --> 01:16:42.279
Yeah. Well, the good news is I'm guessing the crocodile

1435
01:16:42.300 --> 01:16:45.560
is going to be okay because it's been captured. Unless

1436
01:16:45.579 --> 01:16:47.020
they had to test it for rabies, which I know

1437
01:16:47.060 --> 01:16:48.510
you would prefer they test it for rabies.

1438
01:16:49.130 --> 01:16:51.489
No, I would not. It's not a mammal. It doesn't

1439
01:16:51.529 --> 01:16:52.210
have rabies.

1440
01:16:52.590 --> 01:16:54.090
Just, but you can't be too safe.

1441
01:16:54.590 --> 01:16:55.069
I guess.

1442
01:16:56.270 --> 01:16:58.069
This is my new way of like, this is Michelle's

1443
01:16:58.130 --> 01:17:00.449
code for kill the animal is just, you should test

1444
01:17:00.489 --> 01:17:03.340
it for rabies. I'm going to edit out the part

1445
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:06.880
where you didn't know that. So, like, back before, that

1446
01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:09.020
way people will be like, whoa, Chell, what the hell?

1447
01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:13.399
A two-foot crocodile was found in a Long Island nature

1448
01:17:13.460 --> 01:17:16.460
preserve this week, and the nonprofit that saved it is

1449
01:17:16.500 --> 01:17:19.520
offering a $ 1, 000 reward for the arrest and capture of

1450
01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:24.279
the person who illegally dumped the dangerous reptile. It'd be

1451
01:17:24.300 --> 01:17:25.970
weird if you arrested him without capturing him.

1452
01:17:25.979 --> 01:17:28.859
That's what I was thinking. Yeah, that's a weird way

1453
01:17:28.899 --> 01:17:32.600
to say that. You could say one and I would understand.

1454
01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:35.739
Well, I mean, capture is not always arrest, but arrest

1455
01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:41.800
is always capture. Yes. The croc was spotted on Thursday

1456
01:17:41.859 --> 01:17:46.649
strolling along a walking trail at the Holtzville Wildlife Ecology Center,

1457
01:17:46.729 --> 01:17:48.529
which shut down earlier this year.

1458
01:17:49.329 --> 01:17:49.409
Oh.

1459
01:17:50.899 --> 01:17:54.380
Town, that's, so why, but the trails are still open?

1460
01:17:54.399 --> 01:17:55.539
I don't know what, I don't know what it means

1461
01:17:55.579 --> 01:17:56.439
for it to be shut down.

1462
01:17:56.739 --> 01:17:59.560
Maybe it's just the actual center is shut down. Yeah, yeah,

1463
01:17:59.579 --> 01:18:00.619
but the walking.

1464
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:01.020
Trails are still there.

1465
01:18:01.050 --> 01:18:01.510
Yeah, yeah.

1466
01:18:02.020 --> 01:18:05.430
Okay. Town employees still working on the property who made

1467
01:18:05.489 --> 01:18:08.569
the shocking discovery directed the animal into a box and

1468
01:18:08.630 --> 01:18:13.470
immediately called the nonprofit, profit, Strong Island Animal Rescue League,

1469
01:18:13.770 --> 01:18:16.229
or Strong Island, oh wait, that's Long is where you,

1470
01:18:16.350 --> 01:18:17.539
Strong Island.

1471
01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:18.539
Strong Island, yeah.

1472
01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:26.340
Strong Island. Strong Island. Frank Florida, president of the Port... Oh, sorry, Floridia.

1473
01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:30.979
Not Florida, Floridia. I think anybody who was reading that

1474
01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:33.079
would think it just said Florida for a second. Probably.

1475
01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:37.520
Frank Floridia, president of the Port Jefferson-based non-profit, called the

1476
01:18:37.560 --> 01:18:41.430
discovery of the crocodile, which is illegal in New York, quote,

1477
01:18:41.609 --> 01:18:45.149
very concerning. I mean, so many things are illegal in

1478
01:18:45.189 --> 01:18:45.609
New York.

1479
01:18:46.930 --> 01:18:47.850
That's true.

1480
01:18:49.489 --> 01:18:52.140
I mean, like, weren't nunchucks illegal there for a while?

1481
01:18:52.659 --> 01:18:53.260
I don't know.

1482
01:18:53.279 --> 01:18:58.010
Now I want to know by asking Gemini, which will

1483
01:18:58.050 --> 01:19:04.229
be wrong. In 2014, they enacted a law prohibiting the

1484
01:19:04.270 --> 01:19:06.250
public from getting close enough to take a selfie with

1485
01:19:06.289 --> 01:19:08.569
a tiger or big cat. Okay.

1486
01:19:08.590 --> 01:19:08.930
Okay.

1487
01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:14.810
All right. These aren't what I thought. These are all

1488
01:19:14.850 --> 01:19:16.869
like silly things. I was like, I thought there were like,

1489
01:19:17.369 --> 01:19:20.189
I thought like it was illegal. Nunchucks were illegal in

1490
01:19:20.350 --> 01:19:25.050
New York City. Now I have to know. I can't

1491
01:19:25.149 --> 01:19:28.399
just let that stand. They're no longer illegal in New

1492
01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:31.439
York as a federal court struck down the state's 45

1493
01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:38.609
year old ban in December 2018. Wow. Okay. Okay. They

1494
01:19:38.649 --> 01:19:41.350
originally banned them in 74 due to fears of gang

1495
01:19:41.409 --> 01:19:47.079
violence sparked by the popularity of Bruce Lee movies. Oh,

1496
01:19:47.340 --> 01:19:48.600
Bruce Lee movies.

1497
01:19:48.899 --> 01:19:52.560
Wow. I mean, they were they were really, really trying

1498
01:19:52.699 --> 01:19:55.220
to make gang violence go away, which is funny because

1499
01:19:55.539 --> 01:19:58.520
like they were, you know, in bed with the mafia.

1500
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:00.590
But like, yeah. Yeah.

1501
01:20:02.909 --> 01:20:06.409
In 2000, attorney and martial arts teacher James M. Maloney

1502
01:20:06.449 --> 01:20:10.659
was arrested and charged for possessing nunchucks in his home.

1503
01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:13.500
Oh. That's rough. Yeah.

1504
01:20:14.380 --> 01:20:16.899
Yeah. And it ended up, it turned into a landmark

1505
01:20:16.939 --> 01:20:18.199
Second Amendment ruling.

1506
01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:19.819
Wow.

1507
01:20:19.850 --> 01:20:23.689
Because he had to like fight it. Anyway, I just,

1508
01:20:23.750 --> 01:20:25.750
I just, I wouldn't have read that. But the fact

1509
01:20:25.770 --> 01:20:29.090
that it was being enforced is crazy. Yeah. Because a

1510
01:20:29.109 --> 01:20:31.130
lot of silly laws, they just aren't enforced, so nobody

1511
01:20:31.170 --> 01:20:32.029
takes them off the books.

1512
01:20:32.409 --> 01:20:32.569
Mm-hmm.

1513
01:20:33.489 --> 01:20:36.439
Quote, it's concerning for the animal because it doesn't have

1514
01:20:36.529 --> 01:20:41.880
a proper habitat, the proper environment to live. When he

1515
01:20:41.899 --> 01:20:45.000
arrived at the scene, Floridia was able to carefully pick

1516
01:20:45.060 --> 01:20:47.739
up the creature without getting bitten. Okay, so they don't

1517
01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:51.539
have to check him for rabies then. Quote, I grabbed

1518
01:20:51.579 --> 01:20:54.340
him mid-back so his tail couldn't get me and his

1519
01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:57.079
face couldn't get me. I was able to hold him.

1520
01:20:57.279 --> 01:20:58.840
He wasn't aggressive, he said.

1521
01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:01.159
Oh, he was just scared.

1522
01:21:01.180 --> 01:21:03.779
Yeah, you want me to see if you can adopt him?

1523
01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:05.600
No, he's too big.

1524
01:21:06.659 --> 01:21:08.279
He's only two feet. That includes tail.

1525
01:21:08.699 --> 01:21:12.819
I don't have enough food for him. Yeah.

1526
01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:15.600
Okay, now you're just making stuff up.

1527
01:21:15.619 --> 01:21:17.619
It's going to become like the Big Lizard in My

1528
01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:20.520
Backyard song by Dead Milkman, so.

1529
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:23.899
Well, I'm pretty sure they stay around the size of

1530
01:21:23.920 --> 01:21:26.310
their habitat. Oh. Okay.

1531
01:21:26.439 --> 01:21:28.409
Well, yeah, I don't know.

1532
01:21:29.710 --> 01:21:31.069
I mean, I could very well be wrong.

1533
01:21:31.390 --> 01:21:31.689
Yeah.

1534
01:21:32.229 --> 01:21:35.270
The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation now has

1535
01:21:35.329 --> 01:21:38.430
the crocodile, which has to be removed from the state. Wow,

1536
01:21:38.449 --> 01:21:39.319
so they got to deport it.

1537
01:21:39.829 --> 01:21:40.430
Yeah.

1538
01:21:41.149 --> 01:21:44.430
The Suffolk County Society of Prevention of Cruelty to Animals

1539
01:21:44.550 --> 01:21:47.909
is trying to determine where it originated from and who

1540
01:21:47.989 --> 01:21:51.409
left it there. Quote, obviously it's not indigenous to these

1541
01:21:51.470 --> 01:21:55.869
waters here. Suffolk County SPCA Chief Roy Gross told Patch.

1542
01:21:56.390 --> 01:21:59.579
So we're looking at it as abandonment, and we're investigating it.

1543
01:22:01.350 --> 01:22:03.109
I mean, I always heard in New York you flushed

1544
01:22:03.180 --> 01:22:05.239
the crocodiles down the toilet when you didn't want them,

1545
01:22:05.279 --> 01:22:06.939
and that's why the sewers were full of them.

1546
01:22:07.819 --> 01:22:12.180
Yeah, yeah. But not now because they're illegal, so they

1547
01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:13.060
can't be down there.

1548
01:22:14.500 --> 01:22:17.729
Floridia said the crocodile rescue wasn't that out of the ordinary,

1549
01:22:18.069 --> 01:22:23.039
as he's been busy with multiple unusual animal discoveries. Quote,

1550
01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:26.000
I've been getting calls about animals being dumped all over

1551
01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:31.390
the island, he said. Whoa. What's going on in Long Island?

1552
01:22:31.409 --> 01:22:32.430
I don't know.

1553
01:22:34.090 --> 01:22:36.770
Quote, the night before, I got a snake out of Farmingdale,

1554
01:22:37.130 --> 01:22:40.149
a ball python four feet long. Before that, there was

1555
01:22:40.210 --> 01:22:43.770
a tarantula left behind in someone's apartment in Port Jefferson Station.

1556
01:22:43.789 --> 01:22:47.180
I had a monitor lizard that I had to get.

1557
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:50.510
You name it. Okay, so yeah, apparently there is quite

1558
01:22:50.529 --> 01:22:59.520
an issue with exotic animals being abandoned in Long Island. Yeah. So, Chell,

1559
01:22:59.619 --> 01:23:01.979
I guess, would your official stance be check them all

1560
01:23:02.039 --> 01:23:02.520
for rabies?

1561
01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:08.659
No. No, they don't have rabies. They're not mammals.

1562
01:23:09.979 --> 01:23:15.119
So only check the mammals for rabies, brutally? No. Add

1563
01:23:15.140 --> 01:23:16.159
brutally to it, of course.

1564
01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:19.020
Yeah, I mean, if you're going to check them for rabies,

1565
01:23:19.579 --> 01:23:20.779
might as well be brutally.

1566
01:23:24.779 --> 01:23:27.880
Well, we're going to take a quick break. And when

1567
01:23:27.899 --> 01:23:32.149
we come back, police are solving a mystery in Maine.

1568
01:23:33.270 --> 01:23:49.329
And it gets a little hairy. Right after this. Before

1569
01:23:49.369 --> 01:23:52.409
we jump into the news, Chell, I was at Horror

1570
01:23:52.449 --> 01:23:55.609
Hound Weekend a week or so ago, and I didn't

1571
01:23:55.649 --> 01:23:57.529
announce I was going to be there, but I did

1572
01:23:57.569 --> 01:24:01.890
notice something startling. I was getting recognized from my TikTok

1573
01:24:02.380 --> 01:24:06.859
and Instagram reels constantly. Wow. And I do mean constantly. Like,

1574
01:24:06.899 --> 01:24:09.939
I wasn't trying to... I'm not trying to build it up.

1575
01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:12.180
I actually just stopped counting when it was, like, 20

1576
01:24:12.180 --> 01:24:15.239
people because I was like, this is a lot. Then...

1577
01:24:16.109 --> 01:24:19.020
I am at the movies with Dave and I tell

1578
01:24:19.039 --> 01:24:21.140
Dave about it before we leave. And he's laughing. And

1579
01:24:21.180 --> 01:24:22.880
on our way out of the movie, I got recognized

1580
01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:26.220
from Tik TOK by a lady and her mom. Wow.

1581
01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:29.159
And then I was at the cigar lounge and we

1582
01:24:29.180 --> 01:24:31.390
door dash some food and the door dasher said, Oh man,

1583
01:24:31.430 --> 01:24:35.189
I watch your Tik TOKs. Wow. Then last night I

1584
01:24:35.229 --> 01:24:36.789
went to the grocery store at the last minute to

1585
01:24:36.829 --> 01:24:39.130
grab a few things, which actually is a really interesting

1586
01:24:39.170 --> 01:24:42.920
story in and of itself. But, uh, And as I

1587
01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:45.100
was walking out after checking out, somebody walked by and went,

1588
01:24:45.159 --> 01:24:46.460
love your TikToks, dude.

1589
01:24:47.500 --> 01:24:47.920
Wow.

1590
01:24:48.180 --> 01:24:50.899
Because my TikToks are really, you know, they're super local

1591
01:24:50.939 --> 01:24:54.869
to the Dayton, Ohio area. So it's just been wild.

1592
01:24:55.770 --> 01:24:55.949
Yeah.

1593
01:24:56.010 --> 01:24:58.510
Unexpected. And a lot of them don't know I have

1594
01:24:58.550 --> 01:25:00.689
a podcast. They only know about the TikTok because, you know,

1595
01:25:00.710 --> 01:25:03.270
that's what they're consuming. They're consuming the content. And I

1596
01:25:03.289 --> 01:25:05.409
learned a long time ago that the most annoying, obnoxious

1597
01:25:05.470 --> 01:25:07.590
and ineffective thing you can do is just plug it

1598
01:25:07.750 --> 01:25:10.130
all day long. Sure, sure, sure. Because then nobody tunes

1599
01:25:10.189 --> 01:25:10.630
in at all.

1600
01:25:10.949 --> 01:25:11.069
Mm-hmm.

1601
01:25:11.590 --> 01:25:14.210
So, uh, when I meet a person in public, if

1602
01:25:14.250 --> 01:25:16.210
there's a time to talk to them for a second,

1603
01:25:16.569 --> 01:25:18.289
I also tell them about the podcast and give them

1604
01:25:18.310 --> 01:25:19.630
a card for it and tell them like, if you

1605
01:25:19.649 --> 01:25:22.739
like that stuff, you should check out, you know, even more. Um,

1606
01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:24.460
but it was very, very strange, but last night was

1607
01:25:24.500 --> 01:25:27.960
a strange trip to the grocery store anyway, because literally

1608
01:25:28.079 --> 01:25:30.899
I needed some chicken breast. I decided I wanted to

1609
01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:32.479
cook and it was last minute and I couldn't thaw

1610
01:25:32.520 --> 01:25:36.729
anything out. So I go to the grocery store and we,

1611
01:25:36.750 --> 01:25:39.289
we like got in the car and everything's fine. It

1612
01:25:39.310 --> 01:25:42.189
looked a little dark out, but like, I'd looked at

1613
01:25:42.229 --> 01:25:44.069
the weather report earlier in the day and it said

1614
01:25:44.109 --> 01:25:48.630
like it was might sprinkle. Walking out of the grocery store,

1615
01:25:49.090 --> 01:25:51.649
lightning on every horizon I could see.

1616
01:25:51.670 --> 01:25:51.739
Wow.

1617
01:25:53.949 --> 01:25:57.810
And then I heard tornado sirens from the town over. Oh, no.

1618
01:25:58.069 --> 01:26:00.270
And I'm standing in a parking lot with a lot

1619
01:26:00.289 --> 01:26:01.970
of other people. I mean, like it was just a

1620
01:26:02.010 --> 01:26:04.850
normal like kind of Sunday thing. And I rushed home.

1621
01:26:09.489 --> 01:26:13.119
And it started pouring rain like right after I got home. Oh, good.

1622
01:26:14.180 --> 01:26:17.600
And then we had like a severe weather advisory for

1623
01:26:18.140 --> 01:26:20.420
like a half an hour, 45 minutes. And there were

1624
01:26:20.460 --> 01:26:23.180
like threats of tornadoes and flooded flood warnings and all

1625
01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:26.960
this stuff. I had even, I wasn't like totally unplugged

1626
01:26:26.979 --> 01:26:28.779
from the world. I had no idea there was going

1627
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:30.600
to be anything like that happening. And I think most

1628
01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:33.539
people didn't either. My mother said her and her husband

1629
01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:35.399
were just like sitting there watching TV and all of

1630
01:26:35.420 --> 01:26:36.859
a sudden they were like, they got the thing saying

1631
01:26:36.899 --> 01:26:40.470
like seek shelter. Wow. So it was really sudden. We've

1632
01:26:40.489 --> 01:26:44.539
had some really interesting weather in the Ohio Valley this year.

1633
01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:47.319
And we have interesting weather often, but this has been

1634
01:26:47.340 --> 01:26:50.159
a lot. But that all to say, I wouldn't be

1635
01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:53.060
surprised if the world was just ending after everybody is

1636
01:26:53.140 --> 01:26:54.819
recognizing me from frigging TikTok.

1637
01:26:56.350 --> 01:26:57.010
I mean, maybe.

1638
01:26:57.630 --> 01:26:59.789
And I apologize if anybody's trying to reach me on there.

1639
01:26:59.890 --> 01:27:03.630
I check it three times a week because it's my

1640
01:27:03.689 --> 01:27:06.949
least favorite social media. So I check it and I

1641
01:27:06.970 --> 01:27:09.479
do respond to everybody that comments on there. But it

1642
01:27:09.520 --> 01:27:13.250
takes a while because I check it very rarely. But

1643
01:27:13.289 --> 01:27:16.329
I have an immense amount of TikTok content scheduled and

1644
01:27:16.350 --> 01:27:19.689
planned for October. I'm going to publish every day, twice

1645
01:27:19.750 --> 01:27:20.069
a day.

1646
01:27:20.090 --> 01:27:20.159
Wow.

1647
01:27:20.569 --> 01:27:22.930
All October. And then the last week of October, I

1648
01:27:22.949 --> 01:27:25.329
might publish like three times a day. Maybe even more.

1649
01:27:25.409 --> 01:27:25.770
We'll see.

1650
01:27:25.789 --> 01:27:26.390
Wow.

1651
01:27:26.439 --> 01:27:28.140
You're like, oh, lazy. You're getting lazy.

1652
01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:30.279
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could have done it five times

1653
01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:30.800
or whatever.

1654
01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:34.939
Five times. Five times. All right. Well, this headline is

1655
01:27:35.060 --> 01:27:41.310
from Unexplained-Mysteries. Mm-hmm. And the headline is Police Solve Mystery

1656
01:27:41.529 --> 01:27:48.500
of Bigfoot Wandering Around Town in Maine. Hmm. Yeah. What

1657
01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:49.000
do you think it is?

1658
01:27:50.500 --> 01:27:51.560
I think it's a cat.

1659
01:27:53.220 --> 01:27:56.420
That would check out. Yeah. That would check out for

1660
01:27:56.460 --> 01:28:02.119
this month's episode. Several locals called the cops after witnessing

1661
01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:09.779
a hairy hominid walking around the community of Damariscotta. Okay, wait.

1662
01:28:10.140 --> 01:28:12.979
Before you continue, it's probably a bear standing on its

1663
01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:14.180
hind legs, but yeah.

1664
01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:18.000
Okay. Yeah. While there can be little argument that the

1665
01:28:18.060 --> 01:28:22.220
existence or otherwise of Bigfoot can be a contentious subject,

1666
01:28:22.659 --> 01:28:25.770
there was no denying the sightings that occurred in Maine

1667
01:28:26.010 --> 01:28:29.449
last week. Around a half dozen people called the police

1668
01:28:29.489 --> 01:28:33.550
to report a strange bipedal figure covered in hair walking

1669
01:28:33.609 --> 01:28:36.899
around the local area. It was seen on Main Street

1670
01:28:37.079 --> 01:28:38.899
as well as outside a school.

1671
01:28:38.930 --> 01:28:39.890
Oh.

1672
01:28:40.539 --> 01:28:42.239
I wonder if they had to close the school because

1673
01:28:42.479 --> 01:28:46.220
kids were like just freaking out. Yeah. I like that

1674
01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:54.220
we both said freaking out. Uh... It wasn't long before

1675
01:28:54.359 --> 01:28:58.779
officers had apprehended the curious cryptid. As it turned out, however,

1676
01:28:58.840 --> 01:29:02.340
the culprit was little more than a man in a

1677
01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:03.399
Bigfoot costume.

1678
01:29:04.090 --> 01:29:05.090
Oh, okay.

1679
01:29:06.250 --> 01:29:08.890
Chell, would you say needs to be checked for rabies?

1680
01:29:09.829 --> 01:29:11.229
No, I wouldn't say that.

1681
01:29:12.710 --> 01:29:13.430
Are you sure?

1682
01:29:13.449 --> 01:29:14.850
I don't know.

1683
01:29:17.550 --> 01:29:20.140
We're all very worried about this power you've gained by

1684
01:29:20.180 --> 01:29:23.869
realizing that checking something for rabies is just killing it.

1685
01:29:24.439 --> 01:29:27.640
I don't know why you think that this is a power.

1686
01:29:27.699 --> 01:29:29.079
I'm very sad about.

1687
01:29:28.859 --> 01:29:31.880
All of this. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, so nobody

1688
01:29:31.899 --> 01:29:35.800
will think that you mean it. Nice. Gain that sympathy.

1689
01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:39.520
That's solid. You're good at this. You could be a dictator.

1690
01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:47.090
According to Damar Escada police chief Eric Josephson, No charges

1691
01:29:47.170 --> 01:29:52.409
were filed. So you could just walk around causing stuff

1692
01:29:52.449 --> 01:29:53.090
as a Bigfoot?

1693
01:29:53.970 --> 01:29:57.279
Well, I mean, maybe he's just like a furry and

1694
01:29:57.300 --> 01:29:59.979
that's just how he dresses when he goes out.

1695
01:30:00.819 --> 01:30:03.020
It's his fursona. Yeah. Bigfoot.

1696
01:30:03.399 --> 01:30:05.739
And there's nothing illegal about that, so.

1697
01:30:07.079 --> 01:30:10.869
Apparently, he must not have been like trying to cause

1698
01:30:10.909 --> 01:30:16.810
a serious hubbub because here's what the chief said on Facebook. Quote,

1699
01:30:17.060 --> 01:30:23.199
after a lengthy, exhaustive, and completely serious investigation, members of

1700
01:30:23.239 --> 01:30:28.439
the Damariscada Police Department have reached a conclusion. Bigfoot is

1701
01:30:28.500 --> 01:30:32.609
not real, he wrote on Facebook. That is... That is...

1702
01:30:33.430 --> 01:30:38.250
What's it called? Like, interaction bait. That's rage bait. Yeah, yeah.

1703
01:30:38.289 --> 01:30:42.630
That's drama farming. Smart. On social media, saying something like that,

1704
01:30:42.649 --> 01:30:47.970
you're going to get stuff. Quote, we under... Quote, we

1705
01:30:48.090 --> 01:30:53.720
understand this may be disappointing to some. That's a perfect, like,

1706
01:30:54.180 --> 01:30:56.739
because you hear that all the time about different things. Like,

1707
01:30:57.119 --> 01:30:58.960
it's such a, like, corporate speak thing.

1708
01:30:59.000 --> 01:30:59.979
Yeah, yeah.

1709
01:31:00.779 --> 01:31:03.720
Quote, frankly, there were members of our department who were

1710
01:31:03.819 --> 01:31:07.180
secretly hoping we had finally stumbled upon something that would

1711
01:31:07.199 --> 01:31:12.340
make national news. Sadly, no. Well, kind of. I was

1712
01:31:12.359 --> 01:31:16.420
on this show. Hey, it was on NBC Boston originally. Um,

1713
01:31:16.920 --> 01:31:19.659
exactly why the man was wandering around town dressed as

1714
01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:25.119
Bigfoot remains unclear. So the only thing I really wanted

1715
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:28.720
to know. Yeah. Is the only part they didn't figure out.

1716
01:31:29.260 --> 01:31:31.600
Well, I mean, maybe he just, they tried to question

1717
01:31:31.640 --> 01:31:33.340
him and he asked for a lawyer and that was it.

1718
01:31:33.399 --> 01:31:35.300
They were just like, yeah.

1719
01:31:35.720 --> 01:31:38.239
I mean, I just want to know, like, you know, what,

1720
01:31:38.939 --> 01:31:43.050
you know, was it a good Bigfoot costume? Was it,

1721
01:31:43.729 --> 01:31:44.689
you know, what was it?

1722
01:31:44.970 --> 01:31:47.590
I mean, it was obviously pretty good if people didn't

1723
01:31:47.609 --> 01:31:49.250
know it was a person in it.

1724
01:31:51.210 --> 01:31:55.819
Aye yi yi. Well, we all learned a lot. But

1725
01:31:56.260 --> 01:31:58.359
we're going to learn even more after the break when

1726
01:31:58.380 --> 01:32:01.659
we talk about our topic for this month, which is

1727
01:32:01.939 --> 01:32:07.170
the rise and fall of spook shows or midnight ghost shows.

1728
01:32:07.529 --> 01:32:20.909
One of my favorite topics right after this. Michelle, one

1729
01:32:20.949 --> 01:32:27.149
of my favorite things about spooky season and Halloween from

1730
01:32:27.189 --> 01:32:31.619
a historical perspective is that it shines a light on

1731
01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:35.560
how much people want to be scared. Okay. How much

1732
01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:38.460
people want to like kind of challenge themselves in that

1733
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:41.710
way for the fun of it. Mm-hmm. Because if you

1734
01:32:41.729 --> 01:32:44.869
look at Halloween and Halloween's history is actually pretty short

1735
01:32:44.970 --> 01:32:47.909
of the literal Halloween, not all of the traditions it's

1736
01:32:47.949 --> 01:32:50.850
based on, Samhain or Samhain, all that stuff. I'm talking

1737
01:32:50.869 --> 01:32:53.510
about like Halloween in America starting in like the 1910s

1738
01:32:53.550 --> 01:32:57.189
or whatever. That was like a part of a lot

1739
01:32:57.229 --> 01:32:59.600
of cultural stuff that was going on at the time.

1740
01:33:00.439 --> 01:33:03.420
And the reason I think it stuck around was because

1741
01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:08.630
people's hunger for spooky fun is was so great that

1742
01:33:08.729 --> 01:33:12.729
they were like, well, let's make a Christmas, which is

1743
01:33:12.770 --> 01:33:16.510
also relatively new as we understand it. I mean, it's

1744
01:33:16.529 --> 01:33:19.359
still like a few hundred years older, but let's have

1745
01:33:19.380 --> 01:33:22.420
a Christmas, but it's spooky. And that's, I think, why

1746
01:33:22.479 --> 01:33:26.340
Halloween stuck. Because a lot of the things that kind

1747
01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:31.810
of led to the Halloween mindset didn't. And one of them, well,

1748
01:33:31.869 --> 01:33:33.869
for a lot of reasons, cultural changes, stuff like that.

1749
01:33:33.890 --> 01:33:35.689
But one of them is the spook show or the

1750
01:33:35.750 --> 01:33:39.800
traveling ghost show. And I've always thought these are fascinating

1751
01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:42.420
because if you look at them and you see these

1752
01:33:42.479 --> 01:33:45.020
old pictures of like the Orpheum Theater and a big

1753
01:33:45.060 --> 01:33:49.279
sign that says midnight on stage spook show. You know,

1754
01:33:49.819 --> 01:33:54.649
Orpheum Theater, den of living nightmares with Dr. Dracula. And

1755
01:33:54.670 --> 01:33:59.029
this was a place adults went to, like people in suits. Yeah.

1756
01:34:00.220 --> 01:34:03.020
went to see this. I mean, that's just kind of cool.

1757
01:34:03.819 --> 01:34:06.840
I just find that fascinating because even though it's not around,

1758
01:34:06.939 --> 01:34:11.689
the echoes of it are all around us, especially at

1759
01:34:11.729 --> 01:34:15.270
Halloween time. So I've just always found this stuff just

1760
01:34:15.369 --> 01:34:18.390
awesome and fascinating. So we're going to take a deep

1761
01:34:18.449 --> 01:34:22.109
dive into the history of the Midnight Ghost Show thanks

1762
01:34:22.170 --> 01:34:28.229
to paleofuture.com. They have an article about And it's called

1763
01:34:28.329 --> 01:34:32.590
The Rise and Fall of the Midnight Ghost Show. So, Chell,

1764
01:34:32.890 --> 01:34:35.760
get ready, because you're going to learn something, even if

1765
01:34:35.810 --> 01:34:36.140
it hurts.

1766
01:34:37.420 --> 01:34:38.359
Oh, okay.

1767
01:34:38.399 --> 01:34:40.800
Wow, you were so mad you kicked the table.

1768
01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:42.340
I did, yeah.

1769
01:34:42.600 --> 01:34:47.899
I get it. Throughout the 1930s and 40s, Americans flocked

1770
01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:50.550
to their local movie theaters to be scared out of

1771
01:34:50.590 --> 01:34:53.770
their wits. Sure, they loved classic movies of the time

1772
01:34:53.810 --> 01:34:57.100
like Frankenstein, Dracula, and The Mummy. But it was the

1773
01:34:57.159 --> 01:35:01.649
terrifying and humorous stage shows, known generically as the Midnight

1774
01:35:01.710 --> 01:35:07.449
Ghost Show, that really packed theaters to capacity. Midnight Ghost Shows,

1775
01:35:07.510 --> 01:35:11.380
sometimes called spook, voodoo, or monster shows, promised a night

1776
01:35:11.420 --> 01:35:15.960
of creepy and playful stunts. There were glowing ghosts, floating objects,

1777
01:35:16.020 --> 01:35:19.720
psychic readings, and dozens of other illusions, all playing off

1778
01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:25.909
the nation's interest in spiritualism between the two world wars. Interesting.

1779
01:35:27.569 --> 01:35:31.760
I got extra fascinated by this because I read the

1780
01:35:32.140 --> 01:35:37.260
autobiography of Doug Hobart. He was the uncle of Barry Hobart,

1781
01:35:37.359 --> 01:35:39.979
who was Dr. Creep, my local horror host growing up,

1782
01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:44.159
and one of my earliest mentors in television and movies.

1783
01:35:45.060 --> 01:35:49.689
And Doug was, before he got into film production a

1784
01:35:49.699 --> 01:35:52.409
bit in the 70s, he was a spook show guy.

1785
01:35:53.489 --> 01:35:56.609
He had been in vaudeville as a dancer. And he'd

1786
01:35:56.649 --> 01:35:59.770
always loved scary stuff and like horror comics and things.

1787
01:35:59.850 --> 01:36:02.670
So he started doing a spook show because he could

1788
01:36:02.710 --> 01:36:05.289
do stunts. He could throw his body around. So he

1789
01:36:05.310 --> 01:36:07.210
would be like the good guy in the show. And

1790
01:36:07.229 --> 01:36:10.170
when the monster would like backhand him, he would throw

1791
01:36:10.229 --> 01:36:13.020
himself super far. So the audience would be shocked because

1792
01:36:13.060 --> 01:36:15.260
he'd fallen so far and stuff like that. He did

1793
01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:18.380
that for years and it packed theaters all over the country,

1794
01:36:18.420 --> 01:36:19.699
but especially in Ohio.

1795
01:36:20.279 --> 01:36:20.460
Cool.

1796
01:36:20.500 --> 01:36:24.020
So, cause he was originally from Middletown. So I've just,

1797
01:36:24.039 --> 01:36:27.560
that made me extra fascinated. The shows drew from the

1798
01:36:27.619 --> 01:36:30.460
stage magic traditions that preceded them and would have an

1799
01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:33.920
indelible impact on the horror TV culture that would follow.

1800
01:36:34.319 --> 01:36:37.829
The 4D theater gimmick artists and late-night TV movie hosts

1801
01:36:37.850 --> 01:36:41.090
of the 1950s both owe the Ghostmasters of the 30s

1802
01:36:41.130 --> 01:36:44.850
and 40s a tremendous debt. But tragically, it would be

1803
01:36:44.930 --> 01:36:48.779
the new technology of television that would ultimately render the

1804
01:36:48.819 --> 01:36:53.979
thrill-packed midnight stage shows old-fashioned. TV did kill a lot

1805
01:36:54.020 --> 01:36:54.659
of stuff like that.

1806
01:36:55.180 --> 01:36:56.920
Yeah, I understand.

1807
01:36:57.880 --> 01:37:00.539
You understand that that happened, or you understand why, or

1808
01:37:00.579 --> 01:37:02.510
you understand that it was good. What do you mean?

1809
01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:07.329
Oh, those things. I understand why it would happen, because

1810
01:37:07.350 --> 01:37:11.329
you have accessible media in your house, and you don't

1811
01:37:11.369 --> 01:37:12.890
have to go out.

1812
01:37:12.930 --> 01:37:14.109
Plus, oh, sorry, please.

1813
01:37:14.470 --> 01:37:18.229
That's constantly happening. Every time we get a new way

1814
01:37:18.270 --> 01:37:20.640
to just sit in our house, we're like, yeah, man.

1815
01:37:20.659 --> 01:37:26.810
And in that era, especially... Because World War II was over.

1816
01:37:27.630 --> 01:37:31.470
People were home. People were having kids, having families. So

1817
01:37:31.529 --> 01:37:34.930
being able to stay home with your whole family, it

1818
01:37:34.970 --> 01:37:38.109
wasn't just convenience. It was economics. I mean, you didn't

1819
01:37:38.149 --> 01:37:41.300
have to pay for a ticket for each kid. You

1820
01:37:41.319 --> 01:37:43.359
didn't have to worry about somebody being annoyed if your

1821
01:37:43.380 --> 01:37:46.739
toddler cries, let alone finding someone to watch your toddler.

1822
01:37:47.140 --> 01:37:50.439
You could just stay home. And it was more exciting

1823
01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:52.810
and less old fashioned than your parents who did it

1824
01:37:52.850 --> 01:37:55.729
with radio. Cause your parents did it with the radio

1825
01:37:55.770 --> 01:37:57.289
dramas and now you're doing it, but you're like, oh,

1826
01:37:57.289 --> 01:37:59.630
but this is totally different. This is really scary. You

1827
01:37:59.649 --> 01:38:02.229
know what I'm seeing? I'm seeing Frankenstein on my TV set.

1828
01:38:02.310 --> 01:38:04.569
You know, I'm going to have a hamburger sandwich for

1829
01:38:04.609 --> 01:38:06.529
lunch because you got to get enough red meat. It's

1830
01:38:06.609 --> 01:38:11.500
the food pyramid. So, but I just think that that, that,

1831
01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:15.460
that when you contextualize the love of spookiness and horror

1832
01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:18.300
and all this stuff into history, it just really gets

1833
01:38:18.340 --> 01:38:20.199
me riled up. I get so fascinated.

1834
01:38:20.220 --> 01:38:20.300
Yeah.

1835
01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:22.899
Um, and I see, I see it, you know, I

1836
01:38:23.090 --> 01:38:25.310
really do. Um, cause then, I mean, that's one of

1837
01:38:25.329 --> 01:38:28.390
the reasons the drive-in movie was a huge hit. It

1838
01:38:28.430 --> 01:38:31.520
was because you could take a. carload, your family, and

1839
01:38:31.539 --> 01:38:34.500
you had a sense of separation and you didn't have

1840
01:38:34.520 --> 01:38:36.729
to pay for each individual kid. And, you know, there

1841
01:38:36.739 --> 01:38:40.069
were all these benefits to it. Ironically. So it draw,

1842
01:38:40.170 --> 01:38:43.569
it drew teenagers and families, like almost nobody in between.

1843
01:38:44.329 --> 01:38:45.770
It was like, you either went to the drive-in because

1844
01:38:45.789 --> 01:38:48.710
you wanted to be like alone with your number one, whoever, um,

1845
01:38:49.300 --> 01:38:51.359
Or so you could be with your whole family. Like

1846
01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:54.159
single people very seldom would go to the drive-ins. They

1847
01:38:54.180 --> 01:38:57.439
would go to the movie theater, you know, or whatever.

1848
01:38:57.520 --> 01:39:02.109
So it's just fascinating to me. Yeah. Elwynn Charles Peck

1849
01:39:02.170 --> 01:39:05.289
was probably the first to fully develop the Midnight Ghost

1850
01:39:05.350 --> 01:39:10.550
Show sometime around 1929, earning him the rather on-the-nose title

1851
01:39:10.729 --> 01:39:15.409
of the father of the Midnight Ghost Show. Peck performed

1852
01:39:15.470 --> 01:39:18.630
under the name L. Wynn, and his show L. Wynn's

1853
01:39:18.710 --> 01:39:22.890
Midnight Spook Party, how fun, would pave the way for

1854
01:39:22.989 --> 01:39:27.409
countless imitators who would emerge in the following decades. Beth A.

1855
01:39:27.479 --> 01:39:31.699
Cattleman's 2010 paper on the Golden Age of Ghost Shows, Magic, Monsters,

1856
01:39:31.739 --> 01:39:35.520
and Movies, America's Midnight Ghost Shows, describes how Peck drew

1857
01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:39.840
from the same effects that spiritualists and other charlatans would

1858
01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:42.520
produce at the turn of the 20th century. I love

1859
01:39:42.539 --> 01:39:46.630
that he said, and other charlatans. Good work. Quote, In

1860
01:39:46.689 --> 01:39:50.489
these late performances, Peck featured many effects that were based

1861
01:39:50.569 --> 01:39:53.489
upon the types of phenomena one might experience when attending

1862
01:39:53.529 --> 01:39:57.390
a seance, such as the production of ghost apparitions, objects

1863
01:39:57.449 --> 01:40:01.550
moved by unseen hands, and spooky sounds. Peck combined these

1864
01:40:01.630 --> 01:40:04.770
elements into a unique format that quickly became popular with

1865
01:40:04.810 --> 01:40:08.489
the audience. A series of magic tricks and illusions loosely

1866
01:40:08.529 --> 01:40:13.659
held together by a spooky theme culminating in a blackout sequence.

1867
01:40:14.470 --> 01:40:14.930
Ooh.

1868
01:40:15.729 --> 01:40:18.350
How would you feel if you went to a horror

1869
01:40:18.369 --> 01:40:19.829
show or something or something that was supposed to be

1870
01:40:19.850 --> 01:40:21.470
scary and there's a part where they're like, and now

1871
01:40:21.489 --> 01:40:24.609
we're going to turn all the lights pitch black. Would

1872
01:40:24.640 --> 01:40:26.720
you be amped or would you be like, uh?

1873
01:40:27.300 --> 01:40:31.560
I'd be like, okay. I don't know. I'm not, not really,

1874
01:40:31.760 --> 01:40:33.439
that wouldn't be that scared.

1875
01:40:33.960 --> 01:40:38.659
Sorry. We'll see. Okay. If and when I get to

1876
01:40:38.699 --> 01:40:40.359
take you to a haunt, we'll see just how scared

1877
01:40:40.380 --> 01:40:40.640
you get.

1878
01:40:41.180 --> 01:40:44.500
I mean, I'm uncomfortable because there's people and I don't

1879
01:40:44.520 --> 01:40:47.819
know what to do with my body. But, like, I

1880
01:40:47.859 --> 01:40:50.239
don't find it scary. I find it upsetting.

1881
01:40:50.659 --> 01:40:56.649
Okay. Okay, pal. Again, we'll see. We'll see. I mean,

1882
01:40:56.689 --> 01:40:58.890
what would scare you the most? Like, what should I

1883
01:40:58.949 --> 01:41:03.170
avoid taking you to see in the spook houses?

1884
01:41:04.310 --> 01:41:09.170
Like, somebody who's just like, you probably have cancer.

1885
01:41:09.189 --> 01:41:10.130
Oh, gosh.

1886
01:41:10.810 --> 01:41:13.229
And here's why that would probably.

1887
01:41:12.850 --> 01:41:15.310
Be the problem. And here's why. And it's just a

1888
01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:17.340
paper that shows a direct link to anime.

1889
01:41:18.220 --> 01:41:22.699
Oh, I mean, that would be. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah.

1890
01:41:23.800 --> 01:41:25.979
We'll take a quick break and we'll be back talking

1891
01:41:26.079 --> 01:41:28.899
even more about the history of the spook show right

1892
01:41:28.939 --> 01:41:45.750
after this. Let's get back to the spook show. Spook show. Jill,

1893
01:41:45.789 --> 01:41:46.729
please react to me.

1894
01:41:47.270 --> 01:41:49.239
Oh, I didn't know what you were doing, but.

1895
01:41:53.710 --> 01:41:58.430
Harsh, but fair. The ghost show formula would vary between performers,

1896
01:41:58.510 --> 01:42:02.390
but a typical evening might look something like this. 15

1897
01:42:02.390 --> 01:42:05.149
minutes of buildup by the host introducing himself as a

1898
01:42:05.189 --> 01:42:08.819
kind of medium laying the groundwork for what was to come.

1899
01:42:09.489 --> 01:42:13.890
This was followed by about 45 minutes of conjuring, mentalism,

1900
01:42:14.270 --> 01:42:20.350
and spiritualist illusions in low light, often with audience participation. Then,

1901
01:42:21.050 --> 01:42:25.630
the grand finale. A three-minute blackout that would plunge the

1902
01:42:25.689 --> 01:42:29.390
theater into total darkness while any number of ghosts, and

1903
01:42:29.550 --> 01:42:33.649
sometimes monsters, would terrorize those in the audience.

1904
01:42:34.369 --> 01:42:34.470
Oh.

1905
01:42:35.979 --> 01:42:38.180
What? That's still not scary to you, huh? Nothing's scary

1906
01:42:38.220 --> 01:42:38.350
to you.

1907
01:42:38.380 --> 01:42:41.659
No, it's scary. It's fine. I'm very scared.

1908
01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:43.380
You wouldn't be freaked out if the theater went totally

1909
01:42:43.439 --> 01:42:46.140
black and then there was like a monster touching you

1910
01:42:46.220 --> 01:42:46.970
or something?

1911
01:42:46.979 --> 01:42:51.130
It's kind of, I'd be like, what? Oh, I'm, I

1912
01:42:51.149 --> 01:42:51.789
don't know.

1913
01:42:53.850 --> 01:42:56.670
Thank you for that one. It was good. That was good.

1914
01:42:56.850 --> 01:42:58.109
Everything about that was great. Thank you.

1915
01:42:58.630 --> 01:42:58.770
Oh.

1916
01:42:59.170 --> 01:43:04.310
Appreciate it. By the end. By the end of the 1930s,

1917
01:43:04.359 --> 01:43:07.699
screening a popular scary movie would become a ghost show staple,

1918
01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:11.819
and these would almost always be shown after the blackout.

1919
01:43:12.359 --> 01:43:12.779
Okay.

1920
01:43:13.319 --> 01:43:14.899
Well, movie theaters are a great place for the blackout

1921
01:43:14.930 --> 01:43:16.810
because they already make it so no light can get

1922
01:43:16.850 --> 01:43:20.430
in from outside. Not just the sun, but the lobby

1923
01:43:20.630 --> 01:43:22.449
and stuff. It's all sealed up because you want it

1924
01:43:22.489 --> 01:43:26.550
to be pitch black. So that's really clever. One of

1925
01:43:26.609 --> 01:43:31.069
my favorite things about spook shows is the way they

1926
01:43:31.109 --> 01:43:34.220
did the posters. And every like they were always really

1927
01:43:34.340 --> 01:43:38.140
fun and had like squiggly text that would, you know,

1928
01:43:38.180 --> 01:43:40.850
make you think like, oh, this must be really spooky.

1929
01:43:40.890 --> 01:43:42.850
But by today's standards, like, oh, this must be very

1930
01:43:42.930 --> 01:43:46.250
vintage and weird. But it literally at the top says,

1931
01:43:46.310 --> 01:43:48.649
don't be a sissy. Come on down to the spook

1932
01:43:48.689 --> 01:43:53.300
party tonight. Spooks, ghosts, shivers, shudders, thrills in person on stage.

1933
01:43:53.460 --> 01:43:58.489
Elwynn Midnight Spook Party. And it says, make up a

1934
01:43:58.569 --> 01:44:00.729
spook party. If you come alone, you'll be afraid to

1935
01:44:00.770 --> 01:44:06.340
walk home. No children's tickets sold. It's too scary. And

1936
01:44:06.560 --> 01:44:09.840
on the screen, the vampire bat with Fay Wray and

1937
01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:16.880
Lionel Atwill. Balcony is 25 cents, lower four, floor 40 cents. Wow. Yeah.

1938
01:44:18.420 --> 01:44:20.979
I'm frigging amped already and I can't even go.

1939
01:44:21.500 --> 01:44:22.739
Sorry. Yeah.

1940
01:44:23.420 --> 01:44:26.939
The lead-in was absolutely essential in order to prime the

1941
01:44:26.979 --> 01:44:30.539
largely teenage audience for the remainder of the show. As

1942
01:44:30.619 --> 01:44:35.079
Mark Walker explains in his 1994 book Ghostmasters, the performers,

1943
01:44:35.380 --> 01:44:38.119
many of whom were magicians who discovered that midnight shows

1944
01:44:38.159 --> 01:44:42.119
were immensely profitable, would have to set expectations through an

1945
01:44:42.199 --> 01:44:45.970
intricate monologue to make sure the frights would come and

1946
01:44:46.069 --> 01:44:53.109
land properly. Okay. I, so, in the carny, that's called Bally.

1947
01:44:53.649 --> 01:44:58.020
Or ballyhoo. It's when you talk to the audience to

1948
01:44:58.029 --> 01:45:02.680
get them primed for whatever they're about to see or

1949
01:45:02.720 --> 01:45:05.119
to get them to buy a ticket or whatever. But

1950
01:45:05.159 --> 01:45:08.479
it's all about a talker. The term carnival barker is

1951
01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:11.479
not a carnival term. Nobody ever used the term barker.

1952
01:45:11.579 --> 01:45:15.659
That was an outside the carnival term. Talker. That's all

1953
01:45:15.699 --> 01:45:17.659
they called them. They were talkers. People who were able

1954
01:45:17.729 --> 01:45:20.890
to talk loudly to the crowd and kind of hit

1955
01:45:20.930 --> 01:45:22.630
the points over and over and over again and keep

1956
01:45:22.649 --> 01:45:27.060
it interesting. they were talkers. So the Bally, which would

1957
01:45:27.100 --> 01:45:31.779
be something that was pre pre-prepared, uh, Bally was, you know, saying, uh,

1958
01:45:31.859 --> 01:45:34.680
the same thing again and again about the headless, you know,

1959
01:45:34.920 --> 01:45:39.819
goat or something. So I've always loved Bally and the

1960
01:45:39.859 --> 01:45:41.859
idea of having like this, you know, this long monologue

1961
01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:46.920
of like tonight you will enter another world, a world

1962
01:45:47.039 --> 01:45:50.470
most men never return from, you know, that kind of

1963
01:45:50.489 --> 01:45:54.319
stuff is just so fun. Uh, So, according to the

1964
01:45:54.399 --> 01:45:58.739
Ghostmasters book, through the dramatic use of patter, patter is

1965
01:45:58.779 --> 01:46:01.520
like bally, but slightly different. Patter is where people interact, too.

1966
01:46:01.979 --> 01:46:02.220
Okay.

1967
01:46:03.680 --> 01:46:07.819
Ghostmasters attempted to psychologically condition their viewers by warning them

1968
01:46:07.859 --> 01:46:10.170
about the horrible things they were about to see or

1969
01:46:10.369 --> 01:46:15.079
feel in the dark. Imaginations ran wild as the audience,

1970
01:46:15.199 --> 01:46:19.380
already expecting to be frightened, heard lines such as, Don't

1971
01:46:19.539 --> 01:46:23.699
turn around if you feel cold, clammy hands clutching you,

1972
01:46:24.100 --> 01:46:29.659
or something crawling up your leg. I was born to

1973
01:46:29.699 --> 01:46:33.689
do this, it's just not a thing anymore. Yeah. I mean,

1974
01:46:33.949 --> 01:46:37.449
you get a version of this at haunted houses. Yeah.

1975
01:46:37.890 --> 01:46:40.329
And that's why a lot of people used to call

1976
01:46:40.369 --> 01:46:43.220
them spook houses. Cause it was kind of a similar concept.

1977
01:46:43.300 --> 01:46:46.689
I still call haunted houses, spook houses. If, cause to me,

1978
01:46:46.729 --> 01:46:48.810
that's also like my shorthand. And so that, you know,

1979
01:46:48.890 --> 01:46:51.510
I'm talking about like in a, like a place you go,

1980
01:46:51.609 --> 01:46:54.329
not a place that thing people think is haunted. So,

1981
01:46:54.350 --> 01:46:56.850
you know, Oh, that house on the curb, you know,

1982
01:46:56.909 --> 01:46:59.510
on the, up at the lane, that's a haunted house versus,

1983
01:46:59.550 --> 01:47:01.069
you know, Hey, let's go to the spook house tonight.

1984
01:47:01.390 --> 01:47:04.989
You know, like, so naturally part of the ghost master

1985
01:47:05.020 --> 01:47:07.880
set up relied on more cheeky members of the audience

1986
01:47:07.899 --> 01:47:10.960
and who would often take it upon themselves to mess

1987
01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:13.819
with their friends in the dark. Sure. We all know

1988
01:47:13.859 --> 01:47:17.300
that friend. I am that friend. And there are dozens

1989
01:47:17.359 --> 01:47:20.159
in every audience. Oh, it says right there, chances are

1990
01:47:20.319 --> 01:47:23.979
you are that friend. I would be that friend. And

1991
01:47:24.100 --> 01:47:26.979
I did a blackout haunt at Land of Illusions in Middletown,

1992
01:47:27.039 --> 01:47:31.420
Ohio last year, where the walls were painted black, the

1993
01:47:31.479 --> 01:47:35.119
floor was black, the ceiling was black, and the haunt

1994
01:47:35.239 --> 01:47:39.289
actors were dressed in all black. And then... my favorite part,

1995
01:47:40.029 --> 01:47:42.260
they have a 20 second thing where they tell you

1996
01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:43.800
like what you're going to do and like tell you,

1997
01:47:43.899 --> 01:47:46.199
please try not to touch the walls too much. Don't

1998
01:47:46.239 --> 01:47:48.399
touch anybody and they won't touch you, you know, stuff

1999
01:47:48.420 --> 01:47:50.680
like that. But then, but while they're doing it, you're

2000
01:47:50.720 --> 01:47:53.550
in a room that's all white and the lights are

2001
01:47:53.590 --> 01:47:54.470
insanely bright.

2002
01:47:55.289 --> 01:47:56.029
That's pretty good.

2003
01:47:56.289 --> 01:47:57.850
So when you walk in, you're like, whoa, it's kind

2004
01:47:57.890 --> 01:47:59.829
of like, it feels like you're in a, like a, uh,

2005
01:47:59.989 --> 01:48:02.970
operating room. Like it's so bright white. And then they

2006
01:48:03.010 --> 01:48:04.229
shut the lights off and push you in there. And

2007
01:48:04.250 --> 01:48:06.930
you're like, I am totally blind. My eyes are adjusted

2008
01:48:06.970 --> 01:48:10.529
the opposite direction. Like, holy crap. It was brilliant. It

2009
01:48:10.569 --> 01:48:12.789
was really cool. Um, and I don't know how many

2010
01:48:12.829 --> 01:48:14.649
haunt actors were even in there. Cause you really couldn't

2011
01:48:14.710 --> 01:48:16.390
see anything every now and then there would be like

2012
01:48:16.430 --> 01:48:18.569
the tiniest bit of light and all it would do

2013
01:48:18.630 --> 01:48:21.979
is light the fog, which was everywhere. Like, like you,

2014
01:48:22.100 --> 01:48:24.600
it was really, really cool, but it was all your imagination.

2015
01:48:24.720 --> 01:48:27.399
Like it really was a tip. If anybody out there

2016
01:48:27.479 --> 01:48:31.279
is thinking of going to a haunt. Um, I hate

2017
01:48:31.319 --> 01:48:33.720
this because it's the truth. It's just human nature. If

2018
01:48:33.739 --> 01:48:35.510
you go late at night, the haunt actors are going

2019
01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:36.810
to be tired and you are going to get like

2020
01:48:36.829 --> 01:48:40.250
a little bit less tired. But it's still fun and

2021
01:48:40.310 --> 01:48:42.649
especially fun if going late makes it more fun for you.

2022
01:48:42.989 --> 01:48:44.789
But like, I definitely have noticed that if I go

2023
01:48:44.890 --> 01:48:47.810
first thing, it's way more scary. Yeah.

2024
01:48:47.829 --> 01:48:49.770
And then you can go home and go to sleep too.

2025
01:48:49.909 --> 01:48:50.590
So it's better.

2026
01:48:50.949 --> 01:48:52.529
Yeah. Well, not if they did their job right. You'll

2027
01:48:52.609 --> 01:48:58.109
never go to sleep or go home. But I just

2028
01:48:58.140 --> 01:48:59.800
want to mention that like, cause I've gone to some

2029
01:48:59.819 --> 01:49:01.359
late and I could even see that some of the

2030
01:49:01.420 --> 01:49:03.560
actors who were doing, they were talking and stuff. I

2031
01:49:03.579 --> 01:49:04.920
can even see they're kind of tired. I'm like, I

2032
01:49:04.939 --> 01:49:06.640
get it, man. You've been doing this all night and

2033
01:49:06.659 --> 01:49:08.720
you're good at it. So you're really going to tire yourself.

2034
01:49:09.800 --> 01:49:12.880
While Peck got the movement started, Jack and Wyman Baker

2035
01:49:12.920 --> 01:49:16.399
would become two of the most famous and financially successful

2036
01:49:16.479 --> 01:49:21.699
ghost showrunners of all time. The Brothers' Asylum of Horrors

2037
01:49:21.779 --> 01:49:25.350
show played to sold-out crowds throughout the U.S., Canada, Mexico,

2038
01:49:25.489 --> 01:49:26.029
and Europe.

2039
01:49:26.590 --> 01:49:26.850
Wow.

2040
01:49:27.710 --> 01:49:31.329
Wow. This is not a mean thing, I'm saying, as

2041
01:49:31.430 --> 01:49:35.189
a Hispanic man. If you were scaring people in Mexico,

2042
01:49:35.229 --> 01:49:39.079
you're doing a good job. That's all I'm saying. You're

2043
01:49:39.100 --> 01:49:42.060
doing a good job. Just saying. I mean, I could

2044
01:49:42.090 --> 01:49:44.510
see scaring the Europeans. That'd be easy. Like, and they

2045
01:49:44.529 --> 01:49:48.270
give free refills. They're all scared, you know. And the

2046
01:49:48.489 --> 01:49:52.770
public bathrooms cost nothing. Like, women are fainting. Like, that's

2047
01:49:52.789 --> 01:49:56.319
the way they would do it. The show had its

2048
01:49:56.460 --> 01:49:59.039
share of spooks, but it was its sense of humor

2049
01:49:59.640 --> 01:50:04.140
that really set it apart. Here's another excerpt from Ghost Master's.

2050
01:50:04.680 --> 01:50:07.460
Even though their advertising stressed fright and thrills, the show

2051
01:50:07.539 --> 01:50:11.399
rapidly evolved into a comedy spoof on spiritualism. Oh, that's awesome.

2052
01:50:11.819 --> 01:50:12.239
Yeah.

2053
01:50:12.880 --> 01:50:15.920
Knowing they could never produce real ghosts, the Bakers relied

2054
01:50:15.979 --> 01:50:19.859
heavily on their homespun humor and Hell's a Poppin' style

2055
01:50:19.939 --> 01:50:23.729
to evoke hearty belly laughs, making audiences forget the actual

2056
01:50:23.810 --> 01:50:26.409
reason why they came to see the show. They commanded

2057
01:50:26.510 --> 01:50:30.270
court with their macabre mirth, which proved to be the

2058
01:50:30.329 --> 01:50:35.159
right combination at the time. I love that. And by

2059
01:50:35.180 --> 01:50:38.229
the way, next week, right here on Weekly Spooky on Monday,

2060
01:50:38.319 --> 01:50:41.170
our first terrifying true of the Halloween season is about

2061
01:50:41.229 --> 01:50:46.310
Houdini and his death on Halloween. Really, one of my

2062
01:50:46.350 --> 01:50:49.729
favorite episodes I've ever done. As it turns out, being

2063
01:50:49.810 --> 01:50:53.449
kings of the ghost shows also meant amassing some decent coin.

2064
01:50:53.789 --> 01:51:01.039
The Asylum of Horrors would pull as much as $ 4, 000

2065
01:50:57.600 --> 01:50:59.439
per night at larger theaters.

2066
01:50:59.739 --> 01:51:00.199
Wow.

2067
01:51:01.430 --> 01:51:05.109
Over $ 60, 000 when adjusted for inflation. No, that's right. That's

2068
01:51:05.149 --> 01:51:07.029
got to be close. It's probably even more because this

2069
01:51:07.050 --> 01:51:11.029
was 2019 when they wrote this. Oh, yeah. It's probably $ 1. 8 million. Yeah.

2070
01:51:12.729 --> 01:51:15.109
So they could pull in as much as like 70,

2071
01:51:15.109 --> 01:51:17.109
80 grand in one night.

2072
01:51:17.579 --> 01:51:18.039
Wow.

2073
01:51:18.100 --> 01:51:19.859
Good for them. That's unbelievable.

2074
01:51:19.939 --> 01:51:20.520
Yeah.

2075
01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:24.520
The shows could be so profitable that even Howard Thurston,

2076
01:51:24.600 --> 01:51:27.220
one of the most respected magicians of his generation, worked

2077
01:51:27.260 --> 01:51:29.239
a midnight spook show into his schedule.

2078
01:51:30.239 --> 01:51:30.500
Wow.

2079
01:51:31.090 --> 01:51:34.029
And why not? If you were a magician in the

2080
01:51:34.609 --> 01:51:36.470
1930s and 40s and didn't have a ghost show routine

2081
01:51:36.510 --> 01:51:38.930
in your mix, you were simply leaving a lot of

2082
01:51:39.050 --> 01:51:43.890
money on the table. I mean, that's dead right. Well,

2083
01:51:43.909 --> 01:51:45.529
we're going to take a quick break. And when we

2084
01:51:45.590 --> 01:51:48.010
come back, we're going to talk about the fascinating methods

2085
01:51:48.069 --> 01:51:53.069
of publicity the spook show people used right after this.

2086
01:52:01.279 --> 01:52:04.439
The ghost shows were often known for their publicity stunts

2087
01:52:04.539 --> 01:52:08.479
as much as the shows themselves. Elaborate displays of coffins

2088
01:52:08.560 --> 01:52:12.930
and tombstones would pop up around town. Some ghostmasters would

2089
01:52:12.970 --> 01:52:16.609
hold spooky press conferences, hamming it up for the cameras.

2090
01:52:17.069 --> 01:52:20.210
Promoters would even hire fake protesters who would hold signs

2091
01:52:20.289 --> 01:52:23.770
objecting to the depravity of the show. That is one

2092
01:52:23.789 --> 01:52:25.409
of the oldest tricks in the book.

2093
01:52:26.020 --> 01:52:26.659
I like that.

2094
01:52:26.680 --> 01:52:28.380
I think that works really well.

2095
01:52:28.439 --> 01:52:28.939
Yeah.

2096
01:52:29.340 --> 01:52:33.600
Um, it, that was, I mean, um, uh, William Castle

2097
01:52:33.640 --> 01:52:35.279
did that a few times when he, when he did

2098
01:52:35.340 --> 01:52:37.020
his scarier horror movies and he was the guy who

2099
01:52:37.060 --> 01:52:38.840
did like the tingler and stuff where they had like

2100
01:52:39.300 --> 01:52:41.630
a skeleton would float across the audience and everybody would

2101
01:52:41.689 --> 01:52:43.869
faint and stuff. He, he did that. He had like

2102
01:52:43.909 --> 01:52:45.949
some of his crazier movies. He'd have people who were

2103
01:52:45.970 --> 01:52:50.449
from like fake organizations for like the sanctity of, you know, whatever,

2104
01:52:50.630 --> 01:52:52.229
you know, would come and protest and they were just

2105
01:52:52.789 --> 01:52:53.489
actors he hired.

2106
01:52:53.789 --> 01:52:54.329
That's pretty cool.

2107
01:52:55.270 --> 01:52:57.710
It works. It works really well, except in the case

2108
01:52:57.729 --> 01:52:59.430
of Silent Night, Deadly Night, where it actually got it

2109
01:52:59.449 --> 01:53:03.909
pulled from theaters. Oh. Yeah, and that wasn't a fake.

2110
01:53:04.529 --> 01:53:05.989
It was real. It would be awesome if it was

2111
01:53:06.020 --> 01:53:08.399
the fake protest got it thrown out. That would have

2112
01:53:08.979 --> 01:53:09.359
been epic.

2113
01:53:09.779 --> 01:53:10.340
Yeah.

2114
01:53:12.140 --> 01:53:15.119
Many of these stunts, including the fake protesters, would be

2115
01:53:15.199 --> 01:53:19.430
immortalized in the 1993 film Matinee, starring John Goodman, one

2116
01:53:19.439 --> 01:53:22.609
of my favorite movies of all time. He basically plays

2117
01:53:22.649 --> 01:53:26.470
William Castle, and The kids who love his movies notice

2118
01:53:26.510 --> 01:53:28.670
that they recognize one of the protesters as like a

2119
01:53:28.729 --> 01:53:32.189
small role in one of the guy's earlier movies. A

2120
01:53:32.270 --> 01:53:34.909
movie that hammers home just how much B-movie producers of

2121
01:53:34.930 --> 01:53:38.250
the 50s and 60s owed to ghost shows. I love that.

2122
01:53:38.529 --> 01:53:40.800
So they used to call it road showing a movie

2123
01:53:41.109 --> 01:53:42.640
when you would go with it and try to add

2124
01:53:42.680 --> 01:53:45.600
like a little bit of Ballyhoo to the movie as

2125
01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:49.819
the presenter or or even, you know, adding like the

2126
01:53:49.859 --> 01:53:54.470
Tingler where they literally installed little electric zaps. On a

2127
01:53:54.510 --> 01:53:55.729
certain amount of chairs in the theater.

2128
01:53:55.770 --> 01:53:56.390
Wow.

2129
01:53:56.569 --> 01:53:59.189
Not a lot. Just a little tiny zap, like static

2130
01:53:59.229 --> 01:54:02.109
electricity zap. And during the part in the movie where

2131
01:54:02.130 --> 01:54:05.710
they go, ladies and gentlemen, the tingler is loose in

2132
01:54:05.750 --> 01:54:09.510
the theater. Then some people would feel a tingle and

2133
01:54:09.529 --> 01:54:11.789
they'd scream and it would make everybody think they felt

2134
01:54:11.850 --> 01:54:13.670
the tingle and that the tingler was after them too.

2135
01:54:13.689 --> 01:54:15.550
It's kind of brilliant.

2136
01:54:16.369 --> 01:54:19.380
But- but really difficult. They would have to send like

2137
01:54:19.420 --> 01:54:22.539
an intricate pamphlet on how to install the tingle things

2138
01:54:22.579 --> 01:54:25.340
into their seats and stuff. It was a lot. Cause

2139
01:54:25.359 --> 01:54:27.079
we're talking about, you know, rolling it out most of

2140
01:54:27.100 --> 01:54:30.210
the country. Um, they did all kinds of stuff. Like

2141
01:54:30.229 --> 01:54:32.989
they did one, uh, I forget what the screaming skull,

2142
01:54:33.029 --> 01:54:34.949
where it was a skull. They put on a wire

2143
01:54:35.010 --> 01:54:38.020
going across the theater and, But apparently when the movie

2144
01:54:38.039 --> 01:54:40.420
showed enough, like teenagers would go there and be throwing

2145
01:54:40.460 --> 01:54:42.260
things at it, trying to knock it down and stuff.

2146
01:54:42.279 --> 01:54:43.439
Yeah.

2147
01:54:43.680 --> 01:54:47.239
So. Yeah. One of the, oh, this is perfect lead in.

2148
01:54:47.710 --> 01:54:50.430
One of the crucial technological advancements that led to the

2149
01:54:50.489 --> 01:54:53.229
rise of the American ghost shows was the invention of

2150
01:54:53.369 --> 01:54:58.289
luminescent paint. Oh. Isn't it wild to think though that

2151
01:54:58.329 --> 01:55:01.680
like luminescent paint, which I can't imagine you've ever thought

2152
01:55:01.720 --> 01:55:05.680
much about it beyond like, do I need luminescent paint? Or, like,

2153
01:55:05.699 --> 01:55:08.399
luminescent paint exists. You never thought, like, who invented this?

2154
01:55:08.460 --> 01:55:09.319
When did this come out?

2155
01:55:10.840 --> 01:55:12.380
I wish I thought about that.

2156
01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:15.600
That makes me sad that you don't. Yeah, I know.

2157
01:55:16.539 --> 01:55:18.760
But what I love is the idea, like, so we

2158
01:55:18.779 --> 01:55:21.579
have this new thing, see? It's called luminescent paint. And

2159
01:55:21.619 --> 01:55:24.479
then some magician guy is like, all right, I know

2160
01:55:24.500 --> 01:55:26.760
what we can do with this. I just love that.

2161
01:55:26.800 --> 01:55:28.500
I just love that because, like, we didn't, you know,

2162
01:55:28.859 --> 01:55:30.659
we grew up in a time when so many things

2163
01:55:30.689 --> 01:55:33.020
were already invented, although an immense amount of things weren't.

2164
01:55:33.390 --> 01:55:33.890
Yeah.

2165
01:55:33.989 --> 01:55:37.789
Especially in technology. It's just some of those simple things.

2166
01:55:37.850 --> 01:55:39.670
It's like, wow, some of these guys who were doing

2167
01:55:39.689 --> 01:55:41.449
these tricks lived when there was no such thing as

2168
01:55:41.489 --> 01:55:42.229
luminescent paint.

2169
01:55:42.430 --> 01:55:42.710
Yeah.

2170
01:55:43.029 --> 01:55:46.449
A thing that I would just never consider. Alexander Straubel's

2171
01:55:46.470 --> 01:55:50.170
development of luminescent materials in the mid-1920s really paved the

2172
01:55:50.210 --> 01:55:52.649
way for new special effects on stage that did not

2173
01:55:52.729 --> 01:55:58.310
rely on large equipment. Okay. Dating back to the 19th century,

2174
01:55:58.350 --> 01:56:02.189
the Pepper's Ghost illusion was incredibly popular for creating ghosts.

2175
01:56:02.229 --> 01:56:03.300
Are you familiar with Pepper's Ghost?

2176
01:56:03.520 --> 01:56:04.069
I don't think so.

2177
01:56:04.810 --> 01:56:08.430
It's where the audience doesn't realize there's a giant, I mean,

2178
01:56:08.489 --> 01:56:11.590
giant pane of glass in front of the talent. And

2179
01:56:11.630 --> 01:56:15.270
then they would, they would light a person angled down

2180
01:56:15.310 --> 01:56:18.739
below the stage. And so on black, so they could

2181
01:56:18.779 --> 01:56:20.359
stand there and by lining it up, it would look

2182
01:56:20.380 --> 01:56:23.020
like a, like a transparent person who could pass their

2183
01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:26.720
hand through you standing right next to you. It's, it's

2184
01:56:26.779 --> 01:56:29.670
really fascinating because like the amount of effort to hide it,

2185
01:56:30.350 --> 01:56:33.289
it was a magic illusion. It was, it was really

2186
01:56:33.449 --> 01:56:36.850
special for its time. Um, but a massive, I mean,

2187
01:56:36.869 --> 01:56:39.250
you're talking to a gigantic sheet of glass. How are

2188
01:56:39.270 --> 01:56:40.670
you going to transport it? How are you going to

2189
01:56:40.689 --> 01:56:41.909
keep it from getting broken?

2190
01:56:41.930 --> 01:56:44.670
You just have to make a new one every time.

2191
01:56:44.689 --> 01:56:46.930
And then, and then people are gonna start to catch on.

2192
01:56:46.930 --> 01:56:48.529
They're like, you ever notice how when that magician comes

2193
01:56:48.569 --> 01:56:53.229
into town, Roy's a glass shop just does really well. Uh,

2194
01:56:53.310 --> 01:56:56.729
plus the amount of light to make somebody pop on the,

2195
01:56:56.989 --> 01:56:59.140
the thing. I mean, those lights would have been insanely

2196
01:56:59.220 --> 01:57:03.260
big and insanely hot for that era. So it's, it's

2197
01:57:03.359 --> 01:57:07.579
pretty wild. Um, Oh, and it mentions here that the

2198
01:57:07.600 --> 01:57:11.300
Pepper's Ghost method is still used convincingly today in places

2199
01:57:11.359 --> 01:57:15.800
like Disney's Haunted Mansion. Okay. But the trick is incredibly

2200
01:57:15.840 --> 01:57:18.119
large and cumbersome. The ability to jump from theater to

2201
01:57:18.159 --> 01:57:20.130
theater and town to town was crucial for the ghost

2202
01:57:20.170 --> 01:57:23.109
show acts of the 1930s. And now, with special paint,

2203
01:57:23.130 --> 01:57:26.689
your humble hosts and their many unseen accomplices hiding in

2204
01:57:26.729 --> 01:57:30.649
the wings could seem to have ghostly glow without spending

2205
01:57:30.710 --> 01:57:35.210
many days and many man hours installing huge and expensive illusions.

2206
01:57:35.579 --> 01:57:35.859
Mm-hmm.

2207
01:57:36.859 --> 01:57:42.399
That's so cool. Let's see. New technology birthed the Midnight

2208
01:57:42.439 --> 01:57:45.899
Ghost Show, but in the end, it was new technology

2209
01:57:46.079 --> 01:57:47.350
that would help to kill it.

2210
01:57:47.890 --> 01:57:48.350
Yeah.

2211
01:57:49.189 --> 01:57:51.529
With the rise of television in the late 1950s, the

2212
01:57:51.569 --> 01:57:55.029
show would decline rapidly. The ghost shows would continue into

2213
01:57:55.210 --> 01:57:58.649
the 1950s, 60s, and even 70s, even though they were

2214
01:57:58.689 --> 01:58:01.970
decidedly less popular. Oh, yeah. I mean, because you got

2215
01:58:01.989 --> 01:58:04.960
to remember, like, if they had that big of crowds...

2216
01:58:04.920 --> 01:58:07.239
Why not keep doing it until the crowds are, like,

2217
01:58:07.909 --> 01:58:08.670
just okay?

2218
01:58:08.989 --> 01:58:09.430
Yeah.

2219
01:58:09.449 --> 01:58:09.850
Yeah.

2220
01:58:10.159 --> 01:58:13.600
Feel like by the 70s, I couldn't really imagine it.

2221
01:58:14.399 --> 01:58:16.899
Yeah, I would say by then you're probably talking like

2222
01:58:16.979 --> 01:58:22.270
touristy areas or really rural areas where, you know, it's

2223
01:58:22.289 --> 01:58:25.289
harder to get television even because it can be. I mean,

2224
01:58:25.649 --> 01:58:28.310
cable TV was literally invented to solve the problem of

2225
01:58:28.329 --> 01:58:32.130
rural people watching television. People forget that because it was originally,

2226
01:58:32.329 --> 01:58:34.470
the concept was called farmer vision.

2227
01:58:35.090 --> 01:58:35.329
Wow.

2228
01:58:36.010 --> 01:58:39.109
You didn't know that? No. Isn't that wild? So these

2229
01:58:39.149 --> 01:58:43.229
little farm communities would all kind of chip in their

2230
01:58:43.270 --> 01:58:46.909
money to get an antenna put up, or not an antenna,

2231
01:58:46.930 --> 01:58:52.029
a satellite that would receive the television transmissions because they

2232
01:58:52.050 --> 01:58:54.329
were too far away to receive them on their antennas.

2233
01:58:54.649 --> 01:58:54.989
Okay.

2234
01:58:55.750 --> 01:59:00.569
Then they would run cables. from that satellite to their farms.

2235
01:59:01.289 --> 01:59:05.310
And it was a way to get consistent television when

2236
01:59:05.329 --> 01:59:07.149
you lived in the middle of nowhere. And then of course,

2237
01:59:07.170 --> 01:59:09.409
when you think cable TV, your first thought is not

2238
01:59:09.470 --> 01:59:11.989
the middle of nowhere. Your first thought is not like rural.

2239
01:59:12.029 --> 01:59:15.050
Your thought is like that became like the predominant form

2240
01:59:15.090 --> 01:59:18.520
of television until the internet came and slapped it around.

2241
01:59:19.159 --> 01:59:21.800
But yeah, so I mean, you never know like where

2242
01:59:21.859 --> 01:59:23.600
things are going to develop, where they're going to end up.

2243
01:59:24.600 --> 01:59:28.220
It's very, very interesting to learn about this stuff. And

2244
01:59:28.239 --> 01:59:30.439
that's why I'm nerding out so much instead of just

2245
01:59:30.680 --> 01:59:37.670
reading the damn piece. Let's see. Those Ghostmasters that soldiered

2246
01:59:37.810 --> 01:59:42.029
on found that the Baby Boomers were increasingly harder to scare. Well,

2247
01:59:42.060 --> 01:59:45.420
they'd seen two World Wars by that point, so that

2248
01:59:45.439 --> 01:59:49.489
doesn't help. A supposed spirit wrapping its knuckles on a

2249
01:59:49.550 --> 01:59:53.310
table or ghost mask dabbed in luminous paint no longer

2250
01:59:53.369 --> 01:59:56.270
did the trick. To stay relevant, they needed to evolve

2251
01:59:56.310 --> 02:00:03.609
into a more macabre genre that emphasized monsters, blood, botched surgeries, guillotines,

2252
02:00:03.710 --> 02:00:10.680
and bodily mutilation. Yeah. Themes that shock rockers of the

2253
02:00:10.729 --> 02:00:16.199
1970s like Alice Cooper would borrow liberally from. That is true, too.

2254
02:00:16.239 --> 02:00:18.720
He basically did a spook show in his touring act.

2255
02:00:19.060 --> 02:00:19.140
Oh.

2256
02:00:19.560 --> 02:00:20.680
There was a whole thing where he had his head

2257
02:00:20.720 --> 02:00:22.659
chopped off by a guillotine on stage.

2258
02:00:23.029 --> 02:00:23.149
Oh.

2259
02:00:23.810 --> 02:00:27.149
And literally, the illusion was designed by the Amazing Randy,

2260
02:00:27.289 --> 02:00:29.689
one of the most famous magicians to ever live. And

2261
02:00:30.010 --> 02:00:31.569
the guy who cut his head off on stage every

2262
02:00:31.609 --> 02:00:34.619
night was the Amazing Randy in the cloak and everything. Oh, cool.

2263
02:00:35.319 --> 02:00:39.090
It's my dad... Uh, one of my earliest memories of

2264
02:00:39.130 --> 02:00:40.789
being with my dad, he had a bootleg of it.

2265
02:00:40.829 --> 02:00:42.869
Somebody had like filmed it with a camcorder and he

2266
02:00:42.890 --> 02:00:44.869
was watching it. And it was really like shocking though.

2267
02:00:44.909 --> 02:00:47.590
It looked like his head got cut off. Cool. And

2268
02:00:47.630 --> 02:00:49.329
it kind of, you know, he did, but it didn't,

2269
02:00:49.409 --> 02:00:51.609
but it didn't. Like you, like, I guess the better

2270
02:00:51.640 --> 02:00:53.020
way to put it is it kind of looked like

2271
02:00:53.060 --> 02:00:56.100
a fake head, but you could not pinpoint when they

2272
02:00:56.159 --> 02:00:59.800
swapped him. That was what made it really shocking was

2273
02:00:59.819 --> 02:01:01.680
that you just, you saw him throw him into the

2274
02:01:01.699 --> 02:01:02.880
stocks and all of a sudden his head's cut off.

2275
02:01:02.899 --> 02:01:05.739
You're like, wait, what? It looked like it was him.

2276
02:01:05.760 --> 02:01:05.819
So.

2277
02:01:07.310 --> 02:01:09.600
Stuff like that's so cool. But I remember hearing that

2278
02:01:09.640 --> 02:01:13.659
the spook shows in the 70s got really salacious, like super,

2279
02:01:13.699 --> 02:01:16.199
which makes sense because horror films were also getting really

2280
02:01:16.270 --> 02:01:18.890
salacious at the time. So I guess it is the

2281
02:01:18.909 --> 02:01:20.250
boomers fault. Yeah.

2282
02:01:20.909 --> 02:01:21.029
Yeah.

2283
02:01:22.520 --> 02:01:25.420
The Ghostmasters upped the ante with more sex appeal, often

2284
02:01:25.460 --> 02:01:29.340
in the form of scantily clad female assistants, and more violence,

2285
02:01:29.939 --> 02:01:33.970
often in the form of those assistants being brutally dismembered, tortured,

2286
02:01:34.069 --> 02:01:38.590
or attacked by wild beasts and creatures risen from the dead.

2287
02:01:39.050 --> 02:01:41.890
And there was a whole era of macabre magic tricks.

2288
02:01:43.630 --> 02:01:46.850
There was this whole idea like the Mad Magician, where

2289
02:01:46.909 --> 02:01:48.810
it's like they would do the tricks, but they would

2290
02:01:48.840 --> 02:01:51.380
be real. And the funny thing is.

2291
02:01:53.289 --> 02:01:55.829
So if they did a woman getting sawed in half,

2292
02:01:55.930 --> 02:01:58.590
but then reveal a woman looking to actually be murdered

2293
02:01:58.630 --> 02:02:02.609
and sawed in half, then you're actually doing a harder

2294
02:02:02.710 --> 02:02:05.090
magic trick to show that you failed to do a

2295
02:02:05.149 --> 02:02:11.560
magic trick. I love that. To me, that is delicious.

2296
02:02:11.739 --> 02:02:14.699
It's not just food for thought. It's like, that is

2297
02:02:14.979 --> 02:02:18.960
everything I love about humankind and storytelling. The idea that

2298
02:02:18.979 --> 02:02:21.279
you would have to come up with a harder, infinitely

2299
02:02:21.319 --> 02:02:24.899
more intricate illusion to make people think that you failed

2300
02:02:24.979 --> 02:02:28.819
to do a relatively simple illusion that everybody had seen before.

2301
02:02:29.590 --> 02:02:32.930
I love that. It makes me, it makes my soul sing.

2302
02:02:33.069 --> 02:02:38.649
My little spooky pumpkin soul sing. We're going to take

2303
02:02:38.689 --> 02:02:40.310
a quick break. And when we get back, we'll talk

2304
02:02:40.390 --> 02:02:43.550
more about the interesting turns that the spook show took

2305
02:02:44.130 --> 02:02:58.310
in its death rattle after this. The ghost shows would continue. Oh,

2306
02:02:58.390 --> 02:03:00.880
I already read that. I ruined this return, didn't I?

2307
02:03:01.069 --> 02:03:03.390
That's okay.

2308
02:03:03.409 --> 02:03:04.760
Will you take responsibility for it?

2309
02:03:05.550 --> 02:03:06.069
Yeah.

2310
02:03:06.390 --> 02:03:07.289
Okay, go ahead. Please.

2311
02:03:07.729 --> 02:03:12.550
That was my fault. I was distracting somehow.

2312
02:03:13.050 --> 02:03:15.270
Oh, I feel so much better already. Thank you for that.

2313
02:03:17.420 --> 02:03:21.670
To stay relevant, I did it again. I accidentally scrolled up.

2314
02:03:22.819 --> 02:03:23.420
That's okay.

2315
02:03:23.439 --> 02:03:26.600
It was your fault. Those that were successful in the

2316
02:03:26.640 --> 02:03:30.060
format's twilight years also knew how to use broadcast technologies

2317
02:03:30.119 --> 02:03:33.100
to their advantage. A stage magician by the name of

2318
02:03:33.199 --> 02:03:36.840
Philip Morris, I'm guessing no relation to the other Philip Morris,

2319
02:03:37.239 --> 02:03:41.960
took on the role of Ghost Master in 1953. Do

2320
02:03:41.979 --> 02:03:42.640
you need to get that?

2321
02:03:43.439 --> 02:03:46.020
Sorry. No, I don't need to get that.

2322
02:03:46.819 --> 02:03:48.979
I let it go until the second one. And also

2323
02:03:49.000 --> 02:03:54.100
the face you made. A time when many were getting

2324
02:03:54.239 --> 02:03:58.010
out of the business. Morris performed under the name Dr. Evil.

2325
02:03:58.600 --> 02:04:02.409
Clever one, I like that. And bought up enormous blocks

2326
02:04:02.470 --> 02:04:06.810
of radio time to advertise his darker, edgier show. Hmm.

2327
02:04:08.029 --> 02:04:11.229
Morris would also make the transition to television, appearing on

2328
02:04:11.270 --> 02:04:15.000
a weekly horror show every Friday night. The ghost show,

2329
02:04:15.439 --> 02:04:19.079
in some form, would live on if primarily significantly less

2330
02:04:19.140 --> 02:04:25.029
interactive on television. Hmm. The golden age of ghost shows

2331
02:04:25.109 --> 02:04:28.789
existed at a unique time in American entertainment history. Radio

2332
02:04:28.869 --> 02:04:32.939
was exploding as a popular medium, but television hadn't yet

2333
02:04:33.020 --> 02:04:37.140
taken root. Spiritualism and its tricks were intriguing, but belief

2334
02:04:37.180 --> 02:04:40.460
in the supernatural world was a bit past its prime.

2335
02:04:41.039 --> 02:04:44.119
Movies were popular, but they hadn't yet installed the wide

2336
02:04:44.199 --> 02:04:47.340
screens that would do away with the stage. That's a

2337
02:04:47.359 --> 02:04:49.920
really good point I hadn't considered. A lot of movie

2338
02:04:49.960 --> 02:04:55.220
theaters were converted... theaters for stage um until they went

2339
02:04:55.420 --> 02:04:57.680
widescreen then they had to remodel most of the theaters

2340
02:04:57.699 --> 02:05:00.350
because when the screens were square you could just basically

2341
02:05:00.390 --> 02:05:03.670
repurpose it okay well because if it had to be

2342
02:05:03.770 --> 02:05:07.170
wider you had to like redo everything basically and the

2343
02:05:07.189 --> 02:05:10.069
funny thing is because this all feeds together the reason

2344
02:05:10.100 --> 02:05:13.840
they made movie screens wider was to compete with television

2345
02:05:15.140 --> 02:05:19.539
huh Which is extra funny because now televisions are wide.

2346
02:05:19.920 --> 02:05:20.859
Yeah, but they weren't.

2347
02:05:21.020 --> 02:05:23.119
Yeah. Yeah. So, so, so they were like, we don't

2348
02:05:23.140 --> 02:05:25.159
want to be like television. So we'll make our screen wide.

2349
02:05:25.180 --> 02:05:26.619
So you get more when you're at the theater and

2350
02:05:26.640 --> 02:05:28.439
then TVs were like, we got to make our TVs wide.

2351
02:05:28.460 --> 02:05:30.680
So we're more like the theater. Like, it's really funny

2352
02:05:30.739 --> 02:05:33.609
how that works. Um, but for real. So when you

2353
02:05:33.670 --> 02:05:35.710
shoot on celluloid film, like back in the old days,

2354
02:05:36.130 --> 02:05:39.829
the image was square. It making the image widescreen, like

2355
02:05:39.850 --> 02:05:42.069
you've seen in, you know, hundreds of hundreds of movies is,

2356
02:05:42.659 --> 02:05:45.140
is actually harder. You have to, like, do things to

2357
02:05:45.180 --> 02:05:48.199
make it wide, whether it's using specialized lenses or using

2358
02:05:48.260 --> 02:05:52.119
specialized cropping methods after the fact. You have to do

2359
02:05:52.180 --> 02:05:54.460
that in order for it to be wide. Because it's

2360
02:05:54.500 --> 02:05:55.159
actually just square.

2361
02:05:56.430 --> 02:05:58.789
I kind of would just like it to be square.

2362
02:05:58.989 --> 02:06:01.789
And also, I want the TVs to be pretty square again.

2363
02:06:01.829 --> 02:06:02.369
I miss them.

2364
02:06:02.789 --> 02:06:03.109
Really?

2365
02:06:03.130 --> 02:06:04.350
I think so.

2366
02:06:05.529 --> 02:06:08.729
I like it wide. Although, now my thing, and this

2367
02:06:08.810 --> 02:06:11.670
is stupid, but I get annoyed by, is I'll watch

2368
02:06:11.710 --> 02:06:14.960
a TV show. You know, TV show and streaming. And

2369
02:06:15.039 --> 02:06:17.279
it will be even wider than the TV. It'll have

2370
02:06:17.300 --> 02:06:18.699
black bars on the top and bottom. It's like 235

2371
02:06:18.699 --> 02:06:22.810
aspect ratio, super wide technoscope. And all I can think is,

2372
02:06:23.590 --> 02:06:27.109
this is a TV show. Like, it's never, it's not

2373
02:06:27.289 --> 02:06:29.029
ever meant for the theater. It's not like watching a

2374
02:06:29.050 --> 02:06:31.229
movie that does that because it's meant, could you mute

2375
02:06:31.260 --> 02:06:33.000
that or is it impossible or what did you do?

2376
02:06:33.000 --> 02:06:34.319
It's pretty impossible. I'm sorry.

2377
02:06:34.760 --> 02:06:37.260
It's okay. No, no, everybody's, everybody's angry.

2378
02:06:37.279 --> 02:06:39.619
It would take me longer to figure out how to

2379
02:06:39.699 --> 02:06:40.319
mute that.

2380
02:06:41.579 --> 02:06:44.199
Uh, I'll take responsibility for that. I'm sorry, everybody. I

2381
02:06:44.479 --> 02:06:49.670
have been texting Michelle, um, this whole time, but no, uh,

2382
02:06:49.789 --> 02:06:51.449
that always just drives me crazy. Cause if it's a movie,

2383
02:06:51.470 --> 02:06:53.670
it's like, well, even if it never played theaters, maybe

2384
02:06:53.689 --> 02:06:56.250
they were trying for theaters, but when it's a TV show,

2385
02:06:56.310 --> 02:06:57.670
I'm like, why are you doing this? I get it's an,

2386
02:06:57.789 --> 02:07:00.670
it's artistic intent. It's a sense of mise-en-scene. It's a

2387
02:07:00.729 --> 02:07:05.029
sense of like, this is expansive and high quality and cinematic.

2388
02:07:05.989 --> 02:07:09.189
But sometimes I'm like, why is it wider than TV

2389
02:07:09.210 --> 02:07:10.409
when it's meant to be on the TV?

2390
02:07:10.750 --> 02:07:11.010
Yeah.

2391
02:07:11.289 --> 02:07:14.189
That's all. It's not like the widescreen that was called Universum,

2392
02:07:14.229 --> 02:07:16.109
although I think Netflix gave up on it, which was

2393
02:07:16.149 --> 02:07:18.220
just slightly wider with the idea being it would fill

2394
02:07:18.449 --> 02:07:22.300
phones all the way. Oh. I thought that made sense

2395
02:07:22.359 --> 02:07:24.520
at least somewhat. You're very popular.

2396
02:07:24.939 --> 02:07:27.369
I'm sorry. It's emails. I don't know why.

2397
02:07:27.880 --> 02:07:28.359
Very popular.

2398
02:07:28.420 --> 02:07:29.880
I'm getting emails like this.

2399
02:07:29.939 --> 02:07:30.340
Stop.

2400
02:07:30.479 --> 02:07:31.699
Stop making that sound.

2401
02:07:32.199 --> 02:07:35.039
Boing. Oh, that was me that time. Maybe.

2402
02:07:35.479 --> 02:07:36.520
I'm not sure anymore.

2403
02:07:37.159 --> 02:07:39.390
But. That was a hell of a digression. And so,

2404
02:07:39.510 --> 02:07:42.720
for a relatively brief period, the ghost show flourished. A

2405
02:07:42.739 --> 02:07:46.760
beautifully dark mix of technology, magic, and levity. Countless entertainers

2406
02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:49.500
who dabble in the macabre owe their existence to these

2407
02:07:49.779 --> 02:07:54.329
ghost shows. Thus, we doff our caps to these ghost hosts,

2408
02:07:54.670 --> 02:07:57.550
the delightful talents of yesteryear who dared to scare our

2409
02:07:57.609 --> 02:08:04.140
parents and grandparents with a smile yay that that i

2410
02:08:04.180 --> 02:08:06.699
love that i that was such a cool piece and

2411
02:08:06.739 --> 02:08:08.420
i hope you guys learned a lot about the spook

2412
02:08:08.439 --> 02:08:11.720
show because you know there's a saying that i i

2413
02:08:12.079 --> 02:08:14.859
just deeply desperately believe which is everything that's old is

2414
02:08:14.930 --> 02:08:22.850
new again When you look at the landscape of watching television,

2415
02:08:22.899 --> 02:08:24.750
now it's like people are getting tired of paying, so

2416
02:08:24.789 --> 02:08:28.430
now we're watching TV with commercials. That is literally what

2417
02:08:28.449 --> 02:08:33.229
the original television was. Paying for television was a much

2418
02:08:33.350 --> 02:08:38.569
later concept. So that's now new again, and it's popular again.

2419
02:08:39.829 --> 02:08:44.149
When it comes to things like spook shows... Haunted houses

2420
02:08:44.210 --> 02:08:46.649
have seen a huge resurgence in the last 20 years.

2421
02:08:46.689 --> 02:08:50.029
They become bigger than ever. They're becoming huge budget things

2422
02:08:51.229 --> 02:08:53.260
that people are trying to pull off and social media

2423
02:08:53.300 --> 02:08:55.899
helps to promote them and get them out there even more. People,

2424
02:08:56.199 --> 02:08:58.100
you know, film themselves running out of a haunt, being

2425
02:08:58.159 --> 02:08:59.340
scared and people are like, oh, I got to go

2426
02:08:59.359 --> 02:09:02.130
to that haunt and see it too. But then the

2427
02:09:02.189 --> 02:09:04.550
other thing that's really fascinating is there's been a resurgence

2428
02:09:04.710 --> 02:09:07.489
of the host. And to some extent, Weekly Spooky feeds

2429
02:09:07.529 --> 02:09:10.109
that a little bit. But like when Joe Bob Briggs

2430
02:09:10.149 --> 02:09:13.529
became a big deal again on Shudder or Sven Gulli's

2431
02:09:13.600 --> 02:09:17.539
show on MeTV still being really popular, these spooky hosts

2432
02:09:17.640 --> 02:09:22.520
and silly outfits especially are a hearken back to vaudeville

2433
02:09:22.539 --> 02:09:25.319
in the spook show. The idea that somebody comes out

2434
02:09:25.960 --> 02:09:29.170
and either creeps you out or makes you laugh. And

2435
02:09:29.210 --> 02:09:33.109
then anyway, here's the scary thing, is straight out of that.

2436
02:09:33.670 --> 02:09:35.770
So I guess that's why I got kind of emotional,

2437
02:09:35.810 --> 02:09:42.189
because I feel like horror fiction and that stuff, that's

2438
02:09:42.409 --> 02:09:45.800
all been around for a very, very long time. But

2439
02:09:45.840 --> 02:09:49.220
what I do, I feel, is much more comparable to

2440
02:09:49.340 --> 02:09:52.020
the guy standing on the stage in the fright wig

2441
02:09:52.199 --> 02:09:56.779
and freaking you out with the buildup, telling you about Torgo,

2442
02:09:56.819 --> 02:10:00.170
the ape that rips men apart and eats children for,

2443
02:10:00.180 --> 02:10:03.600
you know, lunch. And that's, I feel more like that guy.

2444
02:10:03.800 --> 02:10:05.140
And I look more like that guy, but that's a

2445
02:10:05.140 --> 02:10:08.020
whole other conversation for another time. So I just, I

2446
02:10:08.079 --> 02:10:09.829
love the spook show. I love the concept of it.

2447
02:10:09.840 --> 02:10:12.119
I love what it says about us, not only as

2448
02:10:12.149 --> 02:10:14.689
human beings, but also to an extent as Americans, because

2449
02:10:14.729 --> 02:10:16.869
a lot of these things were very American horror hosts,

2450
02:10:17.170 --> 02:10:20.970
very American drive-in movies, very American. You know, there are

2451
02:10:20.989 --> 02:10:23.770
examples of other places having drive-ins and horror hosts, but

2452
02:10:23.789 --> 02:10:26.220
they're like They're like, you know, Australia had like one

2453
02:10:26.539 --> 02:10:29.050
and Britain had one. And then America, it's like every

2454
02:10:29.159 --> 02:10:32.590
city had one, every single one. So I just think

2455
02:10:32.609 --> 02:10:35.210
it's a really special thing. And I hope that when

2456
02:10:35.250 --> 02:10:38.510
people tune in to my silly shows on weekly spooky

2457
02:10:38.550 --> 02:10:40.909
or to my movie hosting show on popcorn fodder on

2458
02:10:40.989 --> 02:10:43.140
Tubi or whatever it is, I hope they get like

2459
02:10:43.149 --> 02:10:49.119
a little inkling of what the goofy spook show fun was,

2460
02:10:49.199 --> 02:10:51.340
because I think I'm chasing that even though I didn't

2461
02:10:51.380 --> 02:10:55.100
live through it. Yeah. So, We're going to take a

2462
02:10:55.149 --> 02:10:56.810
quick break, and when we come back, we're going to

2463
02:10:56.850 --> 02:11:02.210
talk about some horror media I've enjoyed, say our goodbyes,

2464
02:11:02.329 --> 02:11:05.750
and Michelle will share with us the most scary and

2465
02:11:05.909 --> 02:11:10.569
fascinating Reddit story in the history of the internet. And

2466
02:11:10.689 --> 02:11:14.659
I'm not overselling it. I'm actually underselling it desperately. No.

2467
02:11:15.239 --> 02:11:26.420
Right after this. All right, my spookies. We're wrapping up

2468
02:11:26.699 --> 02:11:32.020
this September edition of Monthly Spooky, heading right into spooky season.

2469
02:11:32.500 --> 02:11:34.159
And I want to remind you, I have a very

2470
02:11:34.239 --> 02:11:39.859
special surprise for you and for Chell on Halloween. Maybe

2471
02:11:39.880 --> 02:11:43.600
we'll do a blackout episode. We'll have to cover our

2472
02:11:43.659 --> 02:11:46.180
screens so they don't shine light. We'll just do the

2473
02:11:46.199 --> 02:11:47.279
show in total darkness.

2474
02:11:47.779 --> 02:11:48.420
Wow.

2475
02:11:48.800 --> 02:11:50.939
Yeah, which I guess is kind of the way it's experienced.

2476
02:11:51.420 --> 02:11:52.380
Let's go like that.

2477
02:11:52.920 --> 02:11:54.880
Oh, wow, it doesn't work. Where's my camera? Oh, there

2478
02:11:54.960 --> 02:11:55.739
it is.

2479
02:11:57.220 --> 02:12:00.060
But before we say goodbye, I want to mention a

2480
02:12:00.119 --> 02:12:04.199
few bits of horror media that I enjoyed in the

2481
02:12:04.239 --> 02:12:08.789
theater this month. The first one is Buddy, the horror

2482
02:12:08.850 --> 02:12:12.909
film from the director of Yule Log and Yule Log 2.

2483
02:12:12.909 --> 02:12:14.170
Oh, that's who it is?

2484
02:12:14.189 --> 02:12:15.909
I thought I told you that.

2485
02:12:15.930 --> 02:12:19.289
No, you didn't tell me that. You didn't tell me that.

2486
02:12:19.630 --> 02:12:21.689
You asked if I saw it, and I said no.

2487
02:12:21.810 --> 02:12:23.359
And you said, oh, I thought you did, and that

2488
02:12:23.380 --> 02:12:23.720
was it.

2489
02:12:26.260 --> 02:12:28.310
All right, you got me. Yeah, I probably slipped up.

2490
02:12:28.380 --> 02:12:30.140
It was excellent, and you should go see it. If

2491
02:12:30.180 --> 02:12:31.539
you want to go see it, I'll send you a ticket.

2492
02:12:31.760 --> 02:12:33.600
Well, now that I know that it's from the Yule

2493
02:12:33.619 --> 02:12:35.630
Log person, maybe.

2494
02:12:36.369 --> 02:12:37.470
I'll send you a ticket. Seriously.

2495
02:12:37.829 --> 02:12:38.689
No, it's okay.

2496
02:12:38.909 --> 02:12:40.529
No, no, I'll send you a ticket. We'll talk about

2497
02:12:40.550 --> 02:12:41.029
it after the show.

2498
02:12:41.050 --> 02:12:41.409
No, no, no.

2499
02:12:42.270 --> 02:12:44.649
I'll send you popcorn. I'll put it in the mail. No, no, no.

2500
02:12:46.039 --> 02:12:50.520
But you should really, you would love it. It's very, wait, no,

2501
02:12:50.560 --> 02:12:53.340
we did. Because I mentioned to you that it repeated

2502
02:12:53.380 --> 02:12:55.250
itself a little bit. So I can't wait to see

2503
02:12:55.270 --> 02:12:57.569
what he does next. We had that conversation.

2504
02:12:57.590 --> 02:12:59.869
I thought that you didn't tell me what his other

2505
02:12:59.909 --> 02:13:01.409
thing was.

2506
02:13:01.569 --> 02:13:03.670
Oh, okay. That I believe happened. Yeah. Yeah.

2507
02:13:03.710 --> 02:13:06.529
Like you were just telling me like his other thing. Oh, okay.

2508
02:13:06.680 --> 02:13:08.520
Sorry. It's Yule Log and Yule Log 2 are the

2509
02:13:08.539 --> 02:13:11.279
other thing. Oh. Sorry. That's why I was talking about it.

2510
02:13:11.319 --> 02:13:13.260
Because you loved Yule Log as much as I did,

2511
02:13:13.319 --> 02:13:16.409
I think. If not more. Yeah. Um, but, uh, if

2512
02:13:16.430 --> 02:13:18.130
you've seen Yule log and Yule log one, which by

2513
02:13:18.149 --> 02:13:19.970
the way, they're not on HBO max anymore. They're like

2514
02:13:20.029 --> 02:13:23.470
really hard to get. Oh, cause a bunch of people,

2515
02:13:23.630 --> 02:13:25.609
my friends were like, oh man, buddy was awesome. And

2516
02:13:25.630 --> 02:13:27.329
I'm like, oh, you haven't seen, have you seen Yule log?

2517
02:13:27.350 --> 02:13:28.430
And they're like, no. And I was like, what is

2518
02:13:28.470 --> 02:13:29.909
wrong with you? And they're like, I can't find it.

2519
02:13:29.930 --> 02:13:32.510
And I was like, that's ridiculous. It should still be

2520
02:13:32.550 --> 02:13:35.029
on HBO. It was a frigging adult swim. It was

2521
02:13:35.069 --> 02:13:37.909
an adult swim thing. But, uh, if you want to

2522
02:13:37.949 --> 02:13:42.520
find it, It's under Adult Swim's Yule Log on Amazon

2523
02:13:42.560 --> 02:13:44.819
Prime Video. You can rent it or buy it. And

2524
02:13:44.859 --> 02:13:47.159
it's listed as a TV show with one episode in

2525
02:13:47.180 --> 02:13:52.850
the season. But it is the correct thing. But Buddy

2526
02:13:52.970 --> 02:13:56.130
is about basically like a Barney the Purple Dinosaur style

2527
02:13:56.189 --> 02:14:00.050
TV show, except that it's its own alternate reality. And Buddy,

2528
02:14:00.130 --> 02:14:04.789
the playful, goofy horse guy, unicorn guy, is actually like

2529
02:14:05.109 --> 02:14:10.260
some kind of evil. And it's so good. very well done.

2530
02:14:10.489 --> 02:14:12.279
They did the thing that Yule log did where they

2531
02:14:12.319 --> 02:14:15.420
make you oddly care about characters in very absurd situations,

2532
02:14:15.460 --> 02:14:19.380
which then makes the stakes very high. And like I said,

2533
02:14:19.420 --> 02:14:21.260
my only criticism was that there were a few things

2534
02:14:21.279 --> 02:14:24.199
where it kind of repeated itself, but not heavily to

2535
02:14:24.239 --> 02:14:26.479
where my first thought was, I wonder what this director's

2536
02:14:26.539 --> 02:14:29.520
next movie will be like, because I guarantee he's going

2537
02:14:29.539 --> 02:14:32.579
to want to shift away from it. Yeah. So, um,

2538
02:14:33.279 --> 02:14:36.859
but also I guarantee you're going to see a very, uh, interesting, uh,

2539
02:14:38.180 --> 02:14:41.180
big budget movie from the guy who made Buddy because

2540
02:14:41.640 --> 02:14:44.380
the movie was made for $ 3 million and it's made

2541
02:14:44.380 --> 02:14:47.000
$ 25 million at the box office already. So it's a

2542
02:14:47.199 --> 02:14:50.439
big hit for the company that put it out. Very much.

2543
02:14:50.939 --> 02:14:53.300
So Buddy, awesome. One of the best horror movies I've

2544
02:14:53.319 --> 02:14:56.520
seen of the year. And then we move from that

2545
02:14:56.590 --> 02:14:59.310
to one of the not bad horror movies I've seen

2546
02:14:59.350 --> 02:15:01.250
of the year, but one of the most solid horror

2547
02:15:01.289 --> 02:15:04.989
movies of the year. It wasn't great, but it wasn't

2548
02:15:05.329 --> 02:15:08.750
bad at all. It was super fun. It knocked It

2549
02:15:08.810 --> 02:15:10.789
checked all the boxes that I wanted, and that is

2550
02:15:10.829 --> 02:15:14.989
the new Insidious film, which now I'm not remembering the

2551
02:15:15.029 --> 02:15:21.010
name of. The Out of the Further was the subtitle

2552
02:15:21.329 --> 02:15:23.710
of Insidious. It's like the fifth or sixth Insidious movie.

2553
02:15:24.689 --> 02:15:26.930
It was actually really fun. I liked the new characters

2554
02:15:26.949 --> 02:15:29.409
they introduced. The world building is the best part of

2555
02:15:29.470 --> 02:15:31.550
all the Insidious movies, kind of because it all comes together.

2556
02:15:32.609 --> 02:15:34.390
And I really enjoyed it. It had a Nightmare on

2557
02:15:34.409 --> 02:15:37.350
Elm Street vibe that definitely hit with me very well.

2558
02:15:38.149 --> 02:15:41.970
So I really enjoyed Insidious out of the further or

2559
02:15:42.069 --> 02:15:44.229
out of the further. And then the other thing I saw,

2560
02:15:44.270 --> 02:15:46.390
which this is not a big thing, was just the

2561
02:15:46.449 --> 02:15:50.529
new Mystery Science Theater 3000 Riff Trax experiments, which is

2562
02:15:50.569 --> 02:15:53.560
basically the Riff Trax guys who are the MST3K guys

2563
02:15:53.640 --> 02:15:57.680
from the later seasons. Mm-hmm. They got the rights to

2564
02:15:57.779 --> 02:16:01.060
do their own little MST3K where they built the sets

2565
02:16:01.119 --> 02:16:04.520
again and reunited the whole cast. And that was the

2566
02:16:04.640 --> 02:16:08.020
era I watched it on TV. Mm-hmm. And when they

2567
02:16:08.039 --> 02:16:10.039
did the intro, they shot new intros. They built the

2568
02:16:10.079 --> 02:16:12.899
sets again. They did all this stuff. I actually got

2569
02:16:12.960 --> 02:16:15.520
a tear in my eye watching them do the intro again,

2570
02:16:16.800 --> 02:16:19.439
because like they're all still here and they're all still

2571
02:16:19.539 --> 02:16:23.079
really funny. And their sense of humor is still clicking

2572
02:16:23.119 --> 02:16:26.890
with me very well. It just made me super happy.

2573
02:16:26.939 --> 02:16:28.829
So that was awesome. And there are two more episodes

2574
02:16:28.869 --> 02:16:31.550
that have not been released yet of the MST three

2575
02:16:31.569 --> 02:16:35.049
K riff tracks experiment. So, uh, those are what I

2576
02:16:35.069 --> 02:16:38.750
saw in the theater. They were awesome. Chell, hit me

2577
02:16:38.780 --> 02:16:40.430
with your best Reddit spook.

2578
02:16:41.149 --> 02:16:43.870
So, I don't know what the hell's going on, but

2579
02:16:44.229 --> 02:16:46.329
I don't really find, I'm not finding anything on Glitch

2580
02:16:46.370 --> 02:16:50.690
in the Matrix that's even, like, relatively, like, interesting. I

2581
02:16:50.729 --> 02:16:55.870
was looking through a, uh, the, you know, the paranormal subreddit,

2582
02:16:56.309 --> 02:16:58.540
and someone just posted, like, what's a really scary thing

2583
02:16:58.579 --> 02:17:02.479
that happened to you? So, oh, no, actually, I won't

2584
02:17:02.500 --> 02:17:04.200
do that. There was one on Glitch in the Matrix

2585
02:17:04.219 --> 02:17:06.219
that I'll do that basically is just paranormal.

2586
02:17:06.239 --> 02:17:06.600
Yeah.

2587
02:17:06.829 --> 02:17:10.450
And not that good. So there's this dude who lives

2588
02:17:10.489 --> 02:17:13.850
in France, I think. And he's kind of dating this

2589
02:17:13.909 --> 02:17:17.750
girl who lives like four hours away in France. I

2590
02:17:17.770 --> 02:17:18.930
didn't know that was possible.

2591
02:17:19.010 --> 02:17:21.799
I mean, you have to really be fully apart in

2592
02:17:21.850 --> 02:17:23.510
France to be that far away. Unless maybe he means

2593
02:17:23.559 --> 02:17:25.219
through public transit four hours away. No.

2594
02:17:25.530 --> 02:17:28.500
No, he meant through on the highways. So maybe she

2595
02:17:28.540 --> 02:17:29.620
lives in not France.

2596
02:17:29.879 --> 02:17:31.239
Yeah. It sounds like not France to me.

2597
02:17:31.600 --> 02:17:34.120
And it's the European Union. So maybe just in a

2598
02:17:34.139 --> 02:17:34.659
different country.

2599
02:17:34.680 --> 02:17:36.100
Yeah. She's probably in Italy or something.

2600
02:17:36.440 --> 02:17:39.840
Yeah, so he's driven to her house one time to

2601
02:17:40.819 --> 02:17:42.989
just hang out with her, and he took the highway,

2602
02:17:43.250 --> 02:17:45.010
and he's going to go back. He wants to go

2603
02:17:45.049 --> 02:17:47.510
back again, and he's going to take the country roads

2604
02:17:47.829 --> 02:17:50.879
out because he just feels like it. it. But that

2605
02:17:50.899 --> 02:17:52.079
takes an extra hour and a half.

2606
02:17:53.920 --> 02:17:54.280
Yeah.

2607
02:17:54.299 --> 02:17:58.909
I don't really know about this. This is weird. So

2608
02:17:59.110 --> 02:18:01.750
he's going to see this woman. And he's driving on

2609
02:18:01.770 --> 02:18:06.010
the country roads. At like 10pm for some reason. He's

2610
02:18:06.030 --> 02:18:08.729
supposed to get there around 11. I don't know why

2611
02:18:08.750 --> 02:18:12.049
this is happening like this. He's driving and he's like

2612
02:18:12.309 --> 02:18:15.350
on this like, you know, he's driving like back roads.

2613
02:18:15.370 --> 02:18:17.530
He said there were cereal fields. So I think it's

2614
02:18:17.569 --> 02:18:20.510
like wheat fields or something because someone asked him and

2615
02:18:20.549 --> 02:18:22.309
he was like, I don't know, like oats and things.

2616
02:18:25.350 --> 02:18:28.250
So he's driving and he just hears a lot of screaming.

2617
02:18:28.829 --> 02:18:33.559
Very intense. Sounds like a woman screaming. To the point

2618
02:18:33.600 --> 02:18:37.100
where after a couple of minutes he pulls over because

2619
02:18:37.159 --> 02:18:42.389
he's afraid something has happened to someone. And I believe

2620
02:18:42.469 --> 02:18:45.559
if I'm... I read something else and now I'm getting confused.

2621
02:18:45.819 --> 02:18:48.500
But I believe if I'm correct, he pulls over and

2622
02:18:48.559 --> 02:18:51.579
as soon as he does, the screaming stops. But he's like.

2623
02:18:53.319 --> 02:18:55.750
Yeah, so he gets out of his car. And he's like,

2624
02:18:56.489 --> 02:18:59.969
is anybody here? Like, does anyone need help? Like, and

2625
02:19:00.030 --> 02:19:05.040
no one's responding. So he goes... to his trunk to

2626
02:19:05.079 --> 02:19:07.420
get out some water to just have a drink because

2627
02:19:07.559 --> 02:19:11.379
the cup holders in France are really small and his

2628
02:19:11.459 --> 02:19:13.159
bottle is too big, apparently.

2629
02:19:13.180 --> 02:19:14.149
Apparently, yeah.

2630
02:19:14.170 --> 02:19:15.950
So it's in his trunk. No, because someone asked.

2631
02:19:16.629 --> 02:19:18.750
Oh, okay.

2632
02:19:19.809 --> 02:19:22.229
Drinks a little bit of water, puts it back down

2633
02:19:22.489 --> 02:19:27.120
and turns around and this woman is emerging from the

2634
02:19:27.180 --> 02:19:30.819
wheat fields and she's like wearing white, I believe, and

2635
02:19:30.860 --> 02:19:35.299
she's really muddy. And she just stares at him and

2636
02:19:35.340 --> 02:19:37.760
he's like, um, like, do you need help? Like, are

2637
02:19:37.799 --> 02:19:40.219
you okay? Like what's going on? And she just stares

2638
02:19:40.719 --> 02:19:44.129
and he's like, do you like want some water or something? Oh,

2639
02:19:44.170 --> 02:19:46.670
he's still holding his bottle of water. And she just

2640
02:19:46.709 --> 02:19:49.129
stares at him and he's like, uh, I don't know.

2641
02:19:49.270 --> 02:19:50.969
So he just goes to put his bottle of water

2642
02:19:50.989 --> 02:19:54.549
down in the trunk, turns around and she's gone. And

2643
02:19:54.709 --> 02:19:56.549
that's the whole thing. It was scary.

2644
02:19:56.930 --> 02:19:59.700
That is, that does sound scary. I mean, there are questions,

2645
02:19:59.739 --> 02:20:02.290
but a lot of those questions are, I won't even

2646
02:20:02.370 --> 02:20:06.159
say really hurt his case because we just don't know France. Yeah.

2647
02:20:06.340 --> 02:20:06.639
Yeah.

2648
02:20:06.760 --> 02:20:09.500
You know, like I feel like France would be hard

2649
02:20:09.520 --> 02:20:12.299
to drive four hours in and still be in France. Yeah.

2650
02:20:12.379 --> 02:20:14.309
I mean, it might not have been. I just remember

2651
02:20:14.350 --> 02:20:17.090
that he was in France. The other thing is like

2652
02:20:17.250 --> 02:20:18.870
when he stopped and he saw her, he got a

2653
02:20:18.889 --> 02:20:21.629
little bit worried because You know, there have been cases,

2654
02:20:21.989 --> 02:20:24.309
not in the middle of the country, but like of

2655
02:20:24.569 --> 02:20:26.889
someone making it look like somebody is in trouble and

2656
02:20:26.909 --> 02:20:29.030
then the person getting mugged or something.

2657
02:20:29.110 --> 02:20:29.469
Oh, yeah.

2658
02:20:29.489 --> 02:20:29.670
Yeah.

2659
02:20:29.729 --> 02:20:33.729
That's actually I've heard that only in Europe. Yeah. Of

2660
02:20:33.750 --> 02:20:35.329
like the desperate woman. And then when you come out

2661
02:20:35.350 --> 02:20:37.170
to help her, these guys come out and just like

2662
02:20:37.469 --> 02:20:39.049
mug the hell out of you. Yeah.

2663
02:20:39.069 --> 02:20:41.350
I don't know why they just don't come and mug

2664
02:20:41.399 --> 02:20:42.190
the hell out of you.

2665
02:20:42.250 --> 02:20:42.719
Why? Why?

2666
02:20:42.930 --> 02:20:45.360
Why? You got to play a game. Just come over

2667
02:20:45.700 --> 02:20:46.639
and mug the person.

2668
02:20:47.090 --> 02:20:49.809
Because that's how you get them. You can't just mug them.

2669
02:20:50.170 --> 02:20:51.809
They'll be like, ah, don't mug me. And you're like,

2670
02:20:51.829 --> 02:20:52.270
damn it.

2671
02:20:53.350 --> 02:20:56.790
You're not supposed to say don't. Now I can't mug you.

2672
02:20:57.870 --> 02:20:59.989
You know I'm not allowed now. Thanks a lot.

2673
02:21:00.389 --> 02:21:00.750
Yeah.

2674
02:21:00.809 --> 02:21:05.879
No, but that's a good one. That's a really creepy one. Good. Yeah, no,

2675
02:21:05.920 --> 02:21:06.940
you delivered, Chell.

2676
02:21:07.319 --> 02:21:11.780
Good, because I spent a lot of time looking for anything.

2677
02:21:13.690 --> 02:21:16.639
Well, I appreciate it and maybe we appreciate it, but

2678
02:21:16.680 --> 02:21:20.299
probably not. Um, but thank you all so much for

2679
02:21:20.340 --> 02:21:23.079
joining us for another edition of monthly spooky. We really

2680
02:21:23.100 --> 02:21:25.229
do appreciate it. Make sure to email us at weekly

2681
02:21:25.270 --> 02:21:28.790
spooky at gmail.com. If you want to make a comment or,

2682
02:21:28.829 --> 02:21:33.200
you know, uh, pick apart Michelle's life choices, performance, her

2683
02:21:33.260 --> 02:21:37.620
opinion on checking every living thing for rabies.

2684
02:21:37.959 --> 02:21:38.399
No!

2685
02:21:38.780 --> 02:21:41.840
We do appreciate it. And don't forget that October is

2686
02:21:42.180 --> 02:21:45.760
the biggest month in Weekly Spooky, second only to December,

2687
02:21:46.180 --> 02:21:48.860
where we'll have tons of bonus shows and all kinds

2688
02:21:48.899 --> 02:21:52.079
of exciting Halloween-y things for you to enjoy to make

2689
02:21:52.149 --> 02:21:55.120
sure that you... Do not miss out on that spooky

2690
02:21:55.239 --> 02:21:57.340
feeling that you have loved since you were a child,

2691
02:21:57.379 --> 02:21:59.540
which is what I chase every single day here at

2692
02:21:59.579 --> 02:22:02.620
Weekly Spooky. So make sure you're subscribed on your favorite

2693
02:22:02.639 --> 02:22:05.500
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2694
02:22:05.520 --> 02:22:08.959
you can subscribe on the Weekly Spooky app if you're

2695
02:22:09.000 --> 02:22:11.959
feeling froggy. But now, I don't know why I said froggy.

2696
02:22:12.040 --> 02:22:13.639
It's not even a pun. We didn't talk about frogs

2697
02:22:13.659 --> 02:22:13.959
at all today.

2698
02:22:14.399 --> 02:22:14.540
No.

2699
02:22:14.559 --> 02:22:17.159
But until next month, we'll be back on the last

2700
02:22:17.260 --> 02:22:21.239
Monday of October to share some more spooky fun. Until then,

2701
02:22:21.620 --> 02:22:22.750
Chell has the last word.

2702
02:22:24.350 --> 02:22:31.059
Um, but like, I don't want things to die. Because

2703
02:22:31.120 --> 02:22:34.059
they get rabies and then we have to cut off

2704
02:22:34.100 --> 02:22:35.649
their heads and that sounds bad.

2705
02:22:56.180 --> 02:22:56.379
Thank you.