Do You Even Movie? | Ravenous (1999) Cannibalism in the Old West!

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Hey, my spookies, I hope
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figured you'd enjoy this one because it's
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you would really enjoy if you haven't
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Noyer. Spoiler alert, Well,
hello, my friends, I hope you're

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hungry, yeah, because we have
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wrap up our wintry movies. I
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here already? Like you drove?
Oh, I have a license? Ill,

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First of all, I never said
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I just said you drove here.
That's fair, that's fair. But

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I'm your host, Enrique Kuto here
with my good buddy and co host Double

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D David Denier, and tonight tonight
we are talking about a film that I

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had the trailer etched in my brain
my entire childhood because the trailer was pretty

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scary. It was, but also
it was just ad nauseum at the theater.

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It was on tapes that we were
renting at the time, and that

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is what you did. This come
about with nineteen nineteen ninety nine ravenous and

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it's I would call it a gem, an unrated or unrated say, I'm

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doing your thing now, I stole
your gig. Dave, one of our

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buddies. By the way, our
buddy Patrick asked about last week's show,

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just thought out was like, did
Dave have a seizure or something? Because

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I just started to say, like
he was a real heart drop of what

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I was. Yeah, no,
no, no, but no, this

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one was definitely underrated. Yes,
and I think we're gonna really notice that.

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I don't remember the exact numbers of
the box office, but when we

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get there, I know that it
was I know that it was painful,

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very painful, very painful. So
and we do want to mention this film

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features many acts of cannibalism. Yes, And you know the funny thing is,

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I mean it seems like mainstream media, like movies, TV shows,

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whatever, kind of do like a
little bit of cannibal then a little then

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they kind of run away for a
while, but whenever they come back to

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cannibalism, they always go all the
way. Yeah, because like I feel

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like there was no mainstream media of
cannibalism for years and years, and then

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we got Hannibal the TV series.
We both watched the whole thing, right,

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you see the whole thing multiple times? Man, you watched it multiple

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times. I mean it's a long
series. Yeah, the three seasons.

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Season two is the best, in
my opinion. Season season three, they

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were told they could do whatever they
want because they were getting canceled, which

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was fun, but there were whole
episodes where it took me until like the

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last three minutes to know what was
going to find out what was going on

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or to figure out how it related
to anything. Was there a whole one

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on a train? And I was
completely I was trying too. That's the

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worst part. That's what made me
frustrate. It wasn't that they were doing

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weird artistic stuff. What pissed me
off was that I was actively watching and

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still confused. That was why I
was mad. I wasn't like, Hey,

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where's ma you know? Yeah,
No, I was sitting there going

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like, wow, I love what
they're what so, but we we talked

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about you and I were watching some
of the other trailers, and boy did

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they try a few different ways to
market rapitable. But that first trailer that

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I showed you right before we started, that one was the one I we

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saw and it made the movie look
really scary, which it is scary,

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but it's it's This film has a
very interesting tone. Tone is the perfect

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word. Yeah, a very different
tone, and every time I watch it,

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I forget that. The film itself, especially in the first two acts,

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has quite a sense of humor of
itself. Very black comedy. Yeah,

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yeah, it's definitely very very like
dark and creepy, but funny,

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like they are these little gags to
it. Yeah, I mean the fact

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that the opening scene is, after
these guys are looking at stakes, the

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main character steps, he runs off, vomits, and then literally as soon

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as the puke leaves his mouth,
Ravenous comes up on the screen. I

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love that. But what an interesting
choice. And that's something that I said.

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I really do think once the third
act kicks in the movie, and

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we'll talk about it in detail,
but yeah, it kind of eases off

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of being completely out of its mind
as far as its presentation style. But

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that that first act and second there
are just these little choices that they made.

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Yeah. Absolutely, But I can't
say that they hurt the film because

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I'd forget them because they don't fit
the tone I remember, Yeah, but

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they make the film very memorable.
Well, and I think going back to

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the trailers again, I think the
key to understanding Ravenous is that it is

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it's a way it's a horror Western, but like in the like tonal shift

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of from dust till Dawn in a
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of start out with a paranoia story. No, that's well, I mean

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I think it's hard head no,
no, but it is a pretty hard

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shift because they go out into the
woods and basically everything changes after they got

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into the woods, which is something
that even I kind of forget, is

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that you meet your cast of characters
then lose almost all of them before the

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second act even starts. Yeah,
so I would kind of agree that in

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a way, From Dust Till Dawn
is in there, the only difference being

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that they make it very clear and
ravenous pretty early on that you're getting a

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cannibal story. Yeah. As to
wearing from Dust Till Dawn, they like

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desperately want you did not know about
the vampires. It's not an hour right

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in the middle. I'm almost certain
now I could be wrong, but I

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doubt it. It's at least,
I want to say, at least forty

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minutes of that movie before the switch
of the vampires. But we're not here

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to talk about from Ust no,
no, so before we get into it,

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one small thing I want to say
is just a humongous thank you.

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Got a lot of really nice comments
about about when I talked about Chicano's passing

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my rescue dog Chicano. I just
want to say thanks, thank you guys

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for commenting. Whether it was commenting
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on socials or whatever. Just thank
you. I really appreciate it. We

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appreciate it. And on that note, I have something in my eye and

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no, I oh wow, I
didn't even so. I didn't even think

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that that was me being cute.
No, I literally, like, literally

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something out of my eye. I
hope you notice that my tone changed to

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very annoyed. I wasn't like,
oh, I just no, No,

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I mean literally something through my eye
was really making me mad. But so

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we're gonna dive headfirst into ravenous.
But before we do, before we dive

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into it, I want to ask
you, Davey, sir, when it

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comes to cannibalism in movies and television, what was if you can remember,

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what was your first exposure to cannibalism
in the movies, Because I gotta tell

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you right now, Davey. I'm
sure I've told you this before. Cannibalism

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is a taboo in movies that actually
gets to me quite a bit. Yeah,

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there is something I cannot stand about
the idea of a person being reduced

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to just meat meat. It really
bothers me. That's why Hannibal got to

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me so badly. Because in Hannibal. They would like shoot it like it

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was the Food Network. Yeah,
but they would be like, see this

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meat, it's a person. And
then it would be gorgeously seasoned and beautifully

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arranged and fried and you know,
oat milk and butter and all this shit,

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and that would like really make me
want a puke. Yeah, if

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anything made me closer to trying being
a vegan, which I did, do

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it Charlie after it was it was
actually Hannibal, because Hannibal made me like

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sick to my stomach. So I
question to you is what was the first

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experience with cannibalism and media that you
can recaller that really stuck with you or

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what have you. So there's two
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is my mom was watching Silence of
the Lambs on TV when I was a

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young kid. Yeah, that's a
good one. And it was the scene

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where he displays displays the moth that
or the butterfly, I can't remember what

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it is, but anyway, he
kills the two guards and I remember just

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him lunging at Charles Napier's face and
that was oh yeah, biting his nose,

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yeah, which is one of the
few times in that film that Hannibal

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Lecter is just a frigging monster cannibal
creature. No, absolutely. And the

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other instance is in my junior high
library, we had a book on horror

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films that went up to, I
want to say about the nineties. I

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was actually talking to our good buddy
Birdman about this on an episode that we

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recorded a week or so back,
and it was up to the nineties,

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so you had everything in there from
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and the seventies. They did a
piece on raw meat aka Deadline, the

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Gary Sherman Cannibali. They had a
shot of one of the campibell eyes like

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eating corpses in it, and I
remember just like looking at the eye and

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like the teeth marks and everything,
and I was like, that's so fucked

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up. So like those two that
are that I can recall. The one

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that probably stuck with me the most
out of any of them was there is

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a scene in Oh my god,
what movie is it now? I'm blanking

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uh. There's a scene in Cannibal
and Cannibal the musical The Trademarker the base

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Yeah, based on Alfred Packer.
The scene the opening scene where he is

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just taking apart those corpses and like
eating their faces. Like that's always stuck

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with me because I'm just like,
that is them shooting for the fences right

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off the bat. Yeah, they
weren't screwing around. No. I love

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Cannibal the musical, So okay,
those are interesting and and and fascinatingly enough,

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none of my answer, oh all
your you did not tackle a single

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one of mine. So my number
one cannibal experience now, and I'm not

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going to count zombie movies and stuff, because zombies are not people. They're

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zombies. But what was as a
cannibalism represents an into a an inside species

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act. These things cannot be considered
human. Therefore, it is not an

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act of cannibalism. To quote Donna
the Dead, but yes, you are

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my Numero uno and you're gonna go. Uh. Was Texas Chanceil Massacre.

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That was the one that like,
I was like whoa, and I remember

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being really freaked out by the concept
of cannibalism. But it was played Now,

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I was played down a little bit
in the way that like you you

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know, basically right at the end
when they like cut her finger and let

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Grandpa suck on it, or and
when they're trying to bash her head in,

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and when they show the barbecues the
hooks, those are like the only

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moments that really settle in this idea
that these kids are not just being killed,

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they're being slaughtered, and they're being
slaughtered in food. Now, I

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remember when she rushes into the room
and you just see the lamp shades and

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all the feathers and everything like that
is really chilling, even very chilly.

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But even that doesn't necessarily scream cannibalism. It doesn't see what I mean,

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like I'm saying. That's why it's
like in that last twenty minutes is when

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you start to go. But I'll
tell you, and this is gonna you're

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again, You're gonna be like,
WHOA. I'll tell you what my numeral

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uno of of of childhood, Horror
of cannibalism. The Parents, Yeah,

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that was on cable and I saw
that when I was probably ten or eleven.

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Yea, and the idea for those
who don't know, Parents is a

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film starring Randy Quaid and I forget
who played the mom in it, but

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Parents. It's a really strange black
comedy moved where cannibalism is I would say,

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not even loosely a it's symbolic for
sex. Yeah, the idea of

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sex and the idea of how children
view sex, because children see sex as

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just a taboo, a taboo that
they're not supposed to have any part in,

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but that adults are constantly having a
pardon And that's why there's this whole

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scene in the movie where the parents
are like, you think they're like making

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out, but then it reveals they're
eating meat together and he's freaked out by

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it. But that's what when I
was like, Wow, yeah, this

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is a metaphor about the forbiddenness of
sex when you're a kid, and how

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it is kind of startling the idea
that your parents are having. Well,

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you'll love watching you about realization when
I was sitting next to you or you're

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watching that blue ray. Yeah,
no, I mean that was when I

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realized that it was barely subtext,
that it was very clearly intentioned. Yeah.

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But so I remember watching that film
on some cable channel pri TBS or

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TNT and being mortified. Mortified is
the perfect word, literally mortified, because

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it's not just a movie about cannibalism, it's a movie about your own parents.

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Turning on you. Yeah, and
and and that's terrifying because it's you

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know, another movie that brings those
vibes really well. Toby Hooper's Invaders from

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March has that whole concept like your
parents are coming to get you enough,

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and yeah, to an extent,
I agree, But I feel like those

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two films like play that fear up
so much because it's like that they're supposed

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to take care of you, and
you're so vulnerable if your parents don't want

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to take care of you. So
anyway, those were my big initial cannibal

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movies. I did think of one
more, which kind of relates back to

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what we're going to talk about,
was Nicholson's speech about the daughter party in

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The Shining. Oh man, see, The Shining is seventeen days long,

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so I forget most of it.
But no, that's a good Now I

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want. I actually am in the
mood to watch The Shining. It's good.

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Like the mini series more, I
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think. Mini series is getting rereleased
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right, Yeah, but I liked
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great about Cooper's version. But I
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I've probably seen Doctor Sleep at least
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years. I've watched it twice since
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I love Doctor Sleep. I watched
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watched once the director's writs cut.
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I liked it quite a bit.
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will be right back, welcome back
to do You Even movie? Just honorable

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mentions in cannibals. I was very
young when I first saw my How old

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were you when you saw your first
Italian cannibal movie? I had to have

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been at least fifteen or sixteen?
Really, yeah, that young? Yeah,

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because at that point I was able
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because I could get them from f
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Accessibility was hired because they were on
DVD and stuff. Cannibal Holocaust was the

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first one I think that we ever
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slaved to the Cannibal God because that
was on a public domain, or at

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least it was considered so it was
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I literally my friended mentor Andy Copp
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because he had a hand in releasing
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would not let me watch it until
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so I didn't get to see like
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I was sixteen seventeen. But it
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there was no DVD available. It
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was like, no, Yeah,
I could see him. It was

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Cannibal Farroks and his own film Mutilation. Man would not let me watch it.

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almost a cannibal movie, but then
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that at Horror Rama, yeah,
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Wow. But even those cannibal movies, for as nasty and mean spirited as

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they can be, and we really
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but for as nasty and mean spirited
and gross as they can be, they're

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so freaking gonzo that you almost can't
get sick. From it. Yeah,

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like it's just so, it's just
so everybody rushes, somebody grabs and starts

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pulling at them, and then their
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It's like you have the cannibal movie, but then you also have this Jim

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Jones story built around it. So
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favorite things. As we mentioned before, a Christmas Christmas movie here at at

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do you even movie? It's a
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digress a little bit about cannibalism and
movies because I am not a squeamish Well

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now, I'm a kind of squeamish, can't be h well, I mean,

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I openly admit horror movies scared me. Yeah, I love them because

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I love being scared. Yeah I
know that because I go to haunted houses

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with you, and it's the fucking
best when you get I can't I react

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the way I feel, which is
scared because it's scary. Start calling your

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name, which has only happened like
one time that I can recall, when

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somebody got your name in the in
the scare line, and it just worked

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its way through all the rooms we
went. Yeah yeah. I don't know

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how they figured out it was my
name, and I don't know how they

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figured out how they heard it in
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but yeah, yeah, crazy bro. But no, I like to

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be scared. I like scary movies
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times people will make the assumption of
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you must be pretty used to it, you must be pretty callous to it,

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And I'm like, no, man. That's why I keep watching them

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is I'm very easy to scare,
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I mean, I love movies obviously, but I love to be scared

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and freaked out. But of all
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one that like, every time I
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Like even even the silliest movie,
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for me, freaks me out.
I'll give you an example. George A.

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Romero's Dead Time Stories, Volume one. Do you remember that cannibal story

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where they're spelunking, Oh, the
splunky one. I was thinking of a

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serial killer one with the Goldilocks.
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they were spelunking in the cave.
I remember that one. And when they

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find the woman, they bring her
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boyfriend in the cave. The way
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her pulling meat out of like a
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loved George Romero. Yeah, as
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think he was a brilliant filmmaker,
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he made some of the best movies
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some crappy stuff too, And there
was a period where he sure did not

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mind just picking up a check.
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tenacious independent filmmakers behind George A.
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could tell they had very little to
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he doesn't even take his jacket all. He's literally wearing an outdoors jacket and

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and and it's just quick quips and
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You could like hear the check being
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can just hear a ballpoint pen scribbling
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messed with so Freddy's nightmares, you
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Yeah, I can't think of it. Oh shit, what was that episode?

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There were two cannibal episodes. Now, I can't think prime cut,

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prime cut, prime cut. Now
that bothered me. Yeah, no,

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that bothered me quite a bit.
It was depicted pretty grizzily, but yeah

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and with a laugh, yes,
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But that's I think the point.
That's the tone of this movie too.

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What movie. So, without further
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let's get into nineteen ninety nine's Ravenous
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forty one minutes, rated R for
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it hang on? It was,
God damn it. The rating killed me.

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It was. I hate that imbd
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Oh considerable gore and strong violence.
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it's considerable gore. Yeah, And
honestly they could have went way grosser.

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Yea. Overall it's mostly blood splashes
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there was you really can see.
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was there were minor cuts made to
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it probably had like an NC seventeen
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probably you know, chopped like two
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would imagine. Yeah, I mean, I I just know that there really

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isn't that much. There's really not
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or something. There's a few moments
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Yeah, and that's really it.
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forty one minutes Raided R directed by
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nineteen eighty five, Casualty in nineteen
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eighty eight, The Men's Room in
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two, Pete Practice Priest Mad love
Face Ravenus in ninety nine, then goes

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to do rehab in two thousand and
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series in two thousand and five.
That's quite a jump. Yeah, Cracker

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one of her films in two thousand
and six, which got a series in

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six as well A Passionate Woman in
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inmight shamal On one Oh. But
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twenty thirteen by thyroid cancer. Died
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quite a career though, cause I
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think I saw any of those except
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about like consistently working and clearly Ravenous
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to hear, because while it did, it was not successful. I think

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it was a very solid movie,
and I think that it did. It

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was a very effective film, and
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very smartly he directed. So I'm
glad to hear that she got quite a

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bit going on, and I'll get
to it a little bit more in the

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trivia. But Robert Carlisle, who
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he was he was very good friends
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gig on Ravenous because the original director
was fired after two weeks. Oh really,

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do we know who the original director
was? I have his name in

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the notes. It's Mitch something milchow
Mincheski. Is his name, Milcho Menchevsky

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Chevsky? Yeahah, what the heck? Yeah, he was fired after two

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to three weeks. I didn't even
look him up. No, didn't even

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bother to figure out what he was
doing. He wasn't mentioned anywhere except that

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trivia. I mean, okay,
this is our research. First stop.

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We got plenty of talk about So
our writer is Ted Griffin. He was

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the writer of Ravenus. Of course, goes on to do Bestly Plans in

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ninety nine, does the screenplay for
Oceans eleven two thousand and one, Match

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stick Men two thousand and three,
rumor has it in two thousand and five,

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The Shield in two thousand and six, Killers twenty ten. He was

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the creator of the series Terriers in
two thousand Are serious? I am dead

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serious. I love that series FX
series Terriers, and I am still upset

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livid we didn't get a second season. I know, because it was so

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good, it ended so well with
so much more to give us. Yeah,

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I know, Terriers is very well
missed and only and it's never been

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released on physical You can only get
it through I think Amazon is the only

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way to get it. Yeah,
I think so something like somewhere like that.

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for Tower Heiights in twenty eleven.
He's edited for script revisions on Runaway Jury

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in two thousand and three, Torque
in two thousand and four, Mister and

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Missus Smith and O five Fun with
Dick and Jane and O five Night and

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Day in twenty ten, and Wolf
of Wall Street in twenty thirteen. Whoa

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Okay? Also the director of Terriers, Mad Dogs, and Patriot. He

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directed episodes of Terriers, Mad Dogs, and Patriot. Yes, those are

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literally three of my favorite shows I
know, and they're not just three of

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my favorite I actually feel bad for
him because, like, those are three

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of my favorite shows that all did
relatively badly. Yeah, but Patriot I

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consider one of the best television shows
ever made. Yeah, the Amazon original

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Patriot. Like most people will be
like, what, it's one of the

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best shows ever made. No,
it's a big deal. Matt, Mad

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Dogs, Crazy also one that you
had me watch. You texted me and

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you're like, dude, you need
to watch the show. We only got

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one season of it, which was
perfect. It did end on on a

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pretty solid name. It ended well, but it could have gotten the second

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season. It was so freaking good. So Mad Dogs opened with Billy Zane,

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an incredibly fun character. Mad Dogs
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one. So our cinematographer is Anthony
B. Richmond. He was a claploader

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on from Rushwood Love in nineteen sixty
three, The Devil Ship Pirates in sixty

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four, The Evil of Frankenstein in
nineteen sixty four as well, he's the

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clapper loader on these phones. Well, I mean it goes to show you

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everybody starts somewhe the Gorgone in sixty
four, Doctor Chevago sixty five, Funny

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Thing Happened on the Way to the
Forum in sixty six. He becomes a

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cinematographer in sixty nine with ITV Saturday
Night Theater. He does Let it Be

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The Beatles film and nineteen seventy okay, wow, don't look now, The

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Donald Sutherland thriller in nineteen seventy three, Damn okay ye I could see a

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trajectory. Yeah, already starting here. Then he goes on to do Old

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Dracula in seventy four, The Man
Who Fell to Earth of David Bowie film

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in seventy six, The Eagle Was
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Kids Are All Right in nineteen seventy
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Life, The In Crowd, sunset
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The Indian Runner ninety one, Candyman
in ninety two. Then he goes to

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do The Sandlot in ninety three.
He did The sand the same DP that

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did Candyman and Ravenous. Yeah,
did Sandlot. Tales from the Hood in

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nineteen ninety five. Really, First
Kid in nineteen ninety six, the Sinbad

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movie. I don't talk to me
like you need to tell me what First

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Kid is, your little shit,
I'm telling you what First Kid was.

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I was always partial to House Guest. The last time I watched First Kid,

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House Guest is great. Actually,
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girl I was dating at the time, had horrible stomach flu and I

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just remember I watched it while I
waited for Chinese food to come while she

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was in the other room sleeping in
between vomiting. First, Kid's really fun.

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Gets better Playing God in ninety seven, the David Coveney film, which

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I watched a while back and I
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a fun crime thiller. So then
he does Ravenus in ninety nine, Cherry

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Falls in ninety nine, Okay,
Men of Honor in two thousand, Legally

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Blonde two thousand and one, Shade
two thousand and three, the Sylvester Stallone

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poker movie I showed you with Gabriel
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Cinderella Story two thousand and four,
Just Friends two thousand and five, Employee

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a classic. And he does three
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he also just did the Beatles Get
Back the Peter Jackson or Yeah, Peter

403
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:51.400
Jackson Disney plus beatlespell I. I
love the Diary of a wimpiy Kid movies

404
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.160
too. Wow, these are some
great ones. So Anthony B. Richmond,

405
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.599
we salute you because that's a hell
of a resume. Brother. I

406
00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.160
mean, that's something we mentioned here
on the show is cinematographers. You just

407
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.839
every film And I've said it again
and again, but every film needs somebody

408
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.960
shoot it. Cinematographers get around.
Never assume you know where a cinematographer came

409
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.680
from or where they're going. Yeah, because there are so many stories or

410
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.000
I mean, he was a claploader
on what was one of the like from

411
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.319
Russia with no no, but I'm
talking about like the Devilship Pirates and the

412
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:23.119
Evil of Frankenstock, the Gorgan All
of those are perfectly fine movies and if

413
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.920
if you love them, that's fine, but they're all like he was just

414
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:33.599
the clapload and then he went on
to be clearly as sought after cinematographer.

415
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.519
Yeah, I would say, so
who shot literally multiple movies that were formative

416
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:42.640
for me that were nothing alike by
the way, None, It's Ravenous,

417
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:47.799
sand Loot, what was the other
candy Man. It's like all of those

418
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:51.359
movies were formative to me as a
kid for completely different reasons. Yes,

419
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.359
So yeah, for real, that
is an incredible story of a cinematographer right

420
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:56.960
there. So getting into the story
of Ravenus. This is from the back

421
00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:00.799
of the screen factory Blu Ray says, arrest for NonStop action and excitement.

422
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:04.559
When the inhabitants of an isolated military
outposts go up against a marauding band of

423
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:08.640
cannibals and a deadly struggle for survival. Ever watchful of the enemies who might

424
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:12.599
literally tear them apart, the uneasy
alliance of soldiers must fight brutal elements of

425
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:17.000
this year in out of wilderness and
as well as their own murderous instincts to

426
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:22.160
stay alive. Okay, it's not
correct at all. There are problems.

427
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:30.119
Yeah, So first of all,
that description sounds like the description you would

428
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.599
give because you know that the person
you want to watch it would not under

429
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.759
like you couldn't get across what actually
happens in the movie. Ye, like

430
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.039
like you're just trying to get them
to watch it because's like, no,

431
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:42.599
no, you'll like it if you
watch it. But like, because it's

432
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:47.119
not that. It's not that,
I mean, I could see interpreting it

433
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:52.119
as that, but it's not an
army fighting. It's it's it's in fighting,

434
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.039
and it's it's and of course the
cannibalist cannibal element is such a massive

435
00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.680
part of the movie. Yeah,
and the whole concept of when deg and

436
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.480
all the stuff, which we'll get
into in a little bit. Yea.

437
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.279
But yeah, so that's a bizarre
breakdown. It just sounds like they're trying

438
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:12.480
to hard sell somebody who does not
want to watch at all. So is

439
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:22.160
your synopsis just he was lacking?
That's what we all from my generation,

440
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.519
that's what we remember the scene where
the guy yells he was lacking. May

441
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.160
so, but anyway, sorry,
so I want my synopsis. The inhabitants

442
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.920
of military outposts Force Spencer have more
than winter weather to be concerned about when

443
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:38.680
a sadistic cannibal infiltrates one night with
plans to never go hungry again. Okay,

444
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:45.599
points for clever, points for clever, but hold on, but what

445
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:51.720
was that first sentence? The inhabitants
of a military outpost Force Spencer have more.

446
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.359
That's you being cheeky, that's you
being a little bit of a ship

447
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:00.720
like. No, they have more. They have more than winter weather to

448
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.240
worry about. They're being infected by
a blight that makes them meet each other.

449
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:10.119
But but I have to, I
have to give it to you on

450
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:14.519
the when the sadistic cannibal infistrates one
night with plans to never go hungry again.

451
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.960
Yeah, that was that was Oh
no, that was good. All

452
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.279
right, that was good. I
will take a little cheeky though. I

453
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.039
might not allow that next time,
but that no, that was good.

454
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.000
Dave, good job. I guess
serious. Do You Even? Movie will

455
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:45.319
be right back. Welcome back to
Do You Even movie? So wrapping us

456
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.240
up as our cast, we have
Guy Pierce who plays Captain John Bloyd.

457
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.160
Ninety credits on his resume. Guy
Pierce is one of those names that,

458
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:53.640
like, I know of him because
of movies that I love him in,

459
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.200
But for the most part, you
really don't see him doing much except for

460
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:59.519
like the last ten years. I
would say he's kind of popped up,

461
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.319
like in black Light. That be
a Meeson movie. No, he's,

462
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.079
yeah, he's I think he's definitely
a workhorse. Yeah, So, ninety

463
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.839
creds on his resume. Heaven Tonight
was his first one in nineteen eighty nine.

464
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:09.400
He did Home and Away in ninety
one, The Adventures of Priscilla,

465
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:13.599
Queen of the Desert in ninety four, Dating the Enemy in ninety six,

466
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:15.599
does Ellie Confidential on nineteen ninety seven, which, dear listener, if you

467
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.880
have not seen Ellie Confidential, I
just shout it to Enrica. I just

468
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.160
saw it recently. Yeah, and
I really liked it. Yes, and

469
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:27.079
shout out to our buddy Maurice,
and shout out to Specs McGee. Uh.

470
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.400
That is an inside joke. Move
along with your lives. So The

471
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.440
Devil Game in ninety seven, Ravenous
in ninety nine, then does Rules of

472
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.960
Engagement in two thousand, Memento in
two thousand, Count of Monte Cristo O

473
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.119
two, The Time Machine in two
thousand and two. Two Brothers in four

474
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:44.720
does The Proposition, which is a
really good dark western. He did with

475
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.039
Nick Cave and the guy that plays
the head vampire in Thirty Days and Night

476
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.799
I can't think of his name,
but really really good movie. Factory Girl

477
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:55.480
in two thousand and six. He
portrays Warhol. He doesn't Andy Warhol.

478
00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:59.440
Oh okay, really well, Oh
wow, I would like to see that,

479
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.319
yeah, Trader two thousand and eight, The hurt Locker, Ina the

480
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:05.599
Road, the King Speech, Don't
be afraid of the Dark, Seeking Justice,

481
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.960
Lockout, Prometheus, Lawless, Iron
Man three, The Rover Equals Brimstone

482
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:14.759
spinning Man a Christmas Carol from twenty
nineteen, Bloodshot in twenty twenty, and

483
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:16.920
then Memory in twenty two two.
So when Blacklight is memory? Oh okay,

484
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:21.519
too confused because they came out the
same time, because David is a

485
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.359
lazy researcher. I just remember Memory
was better than black Light. Wow,

486
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.359
Hard you were with me and we
both agreed on that. Wait what was

487
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:32.839
what was memory? Memory was where
he's the assassin that loses his memory.

488
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.599
Oh yeah, and black Light's where
one of his buddies gets taken out.

489
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:39.799
So he decides to go back into
Cia. If I remember correctly, Yeah,

490
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.720
I liked black Light actually kind of
more. Wait maybe it was Blacklight.

491
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:45.039
I don't know, Maybe I like
black Light more than so that.

492
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.440
Robert Carlisle is our second lead.
He plays Colonel Ives as well as Calhoun

493
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.599
in this. He was in Arena
in nineteen seventy five, Taggart in ninety,

494
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.799
riff Raff in ninety one, does
The Advocates in ninety two, Being

495
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:59.359
Human in ninety four, does Priests
where he meets Antonio Bird in ninety four,

496
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:01.640
as well Cracker in ninety four.
Another one of her films, Trainspotting,

497
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:05.440
in ninety six, Carlo Song in
ninety six, The Full Monty in

498
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:07.679
ninety seven, probably one of his
most known movies. Oh yeah, next

499
00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:10.440
two disappearance on the series of A
Once Pot a Time, which will get

500
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:14.119
to in a second. Does the
World's Eigned Up in ninety nine, Angela's

501
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:16.840
Ashes the Beach to End All Wars
Formula fifty one, Hitler, The Rise

502
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:21.239
of Evil in two thousand and three, The Mighty celt Aragon twenty eight weeks

503
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:23.840
later, Redemption the Tournament, which
I need to show you The Tournament because

504
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.719
it's literally about a small town that
becomes a location for this game of assassins

505
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:32.760
that like big heads are bidding on
there's money, and Carlisle plays a priest

506
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:36.760
whos sworn off violence. That sounds
fun to me. Yeah, that sounds

507
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:38.880
like awesome. Yeah. Start at
Universe No. Nine, One Spot a

508
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:44.480
Time in twenty eleven, Train Spotting
two and twenty seventeen, Yesterday and Cobra

509
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.360
in twenty twenty. Robert Carlyle is
one of those faces that like you've seen

510
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:50.840
him in things, but you don't
know what it is, precisely because his

511
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:52.639
resume is a bit all over the
place. I mean Hey, there are

512
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:57.639
worse things to be then everywhere and
wrapping us up is Neil McDonough. He

513
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.760
plays Private Reich in this one hundred
and thirty six credits on his resume.

514
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.760
By the way, Wait wait,
your third person is is Neil McDonough.

515
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.880
What no, no love for Jeffrey
Jones. I didn't give Jeffrey Jones Jeffrey

516
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.760
Jones on this. We'll get to
him. What, Dave? Why do

517
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:14.960
Why don't you want to talk about
how great Jeffrey Jones is? So he

518
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.960
does Dark Man in nineteen ninety What
no love for Jeffrey Jones? I love

519
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.000
Jeffrey Jones, but well you do. But I love Jeffrey Jones work.

520
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:28.559
Oh really, can we get move
on? Jeffrey Jones has allegations, you

521
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.719
can find out. Yeah, moving
on. It's not like this is gonna

522
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:35.440
be the first time somebody has allegation. Yeah. Look at Dave, he's

523
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.679
he's the clem. He's like completely
vetched. Now. I don't know why

524
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:44.679
I'm all yiddish, but look at
David. Fix your hat. Oh we

525
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:46.880
worry about you, bully. Why
don't you take a drink and I'll tell

526
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:51.599
a joke to the audience. Let
me tell you why the first time David

527
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.039
told me he was hiding Jeffrey Jones
in his home from the authority funny.

528
00:35:55.039 --> 00:36:00.360
No, it's all right, Dave. I'm sorry. Dave was the of

529
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:04.760
Jeffrey Jones jokes I made during the
actual film that we were watching. He

530
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.639
is not wrong. I knew that
Dave was just what he was. And

531
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:09.440
the reason Dave was flinchy is he
was just afraid I was gonna throw like

532
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:15.639
a really mean one at him.
I'm trying not to do that to you

533
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.679
on this appreciate that. So Neil
McDonalds. Starting with dark Man in nineteen

534
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:22.760
ninety, he plays a dock worker
in dark Man, Quantum Leap in ninety

535
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.679
one, Crueled Out in ninety two, in the Line of Duty, Ambush,

536
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:30.320
and Waco, which I actually just
watched today. Really, yeah,

537
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.719
that was the one I was sending
you go screen grabs of when you mcdonna's

538
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.559
hair, Oh yes, yes,
young and weird looking. He does Duckman

539
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:40.960
in ninety four, Angels in the
Outfield ninety four, Jag in ninety five,

540
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:46.239
three Wishes One Man's Justice in ninety
six, The Ultimate bro movie of

541
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:50.519
us You ever wanted to see?
Mc hammer, Suffocate a guy with a

542
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.599
bag, one Man's Justice, or
just hang out outside in East Lan That

543
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:58.559
is true too. Yes, Star
Trek First Contact in ninety six, Fire

544
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.199
Down Below ninety seven, The Incredible
Hault Cartoon in ninety seven, Rabbitus in

545
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:05.840
ninety nine. Then he does Balloon
Farm, Martial Law, Band of Brothers,

546
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.920
The X Files, Minority Report,
Timeline, Walking Tall Remake, Medical

547
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.199
Investigation, The Guardian Flags of Our
Fathers, The Hitcher, I Know Who

548
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.679
killed Me, Tin Man, Desperate
Housewives, Terriers, which I forgot he

549
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.199
was on terriers until I looked him
up. Oh you forgot that. Yeah,

550
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.159
Oh, very memorable on tarriers Little
Birds in twenty eleven. Captain America

551
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:27.440
twenty eleven justified one of his best
appearances in the last decade, I would

552
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:30.400
agree, although it plays to kind
of his type cast, Yeah, it

553
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:32.920
does. But but we and we
have another justified alumni in this cast as

554
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.440
well. But yeah, I think
they're both worth mentioning. Yeah. CSI

555
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:42.239
read two Bad Country Arrow Yellowstone Suits, The one hundred American Horror Story,

556
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.000
Evil Resident Evil, Welcome to Raccoon
City, The Flash The Shit He Was

557
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.280
in Welcome to Raccoon City, The
dude's resume doesn't end. I mean he's

558
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:53.480
a working actor. Well, he's
got a forehead that just scares you.

559
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:58.559
He's also got a families got feed
I mean that helps too. He's also

560
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.119
a but I don't know if they're
his or if he abducted them. But

561
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.039
you know the characters he gets to
play. Yeah, he's also a producer

562
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.559
now too. He's producing a lot
of movies. One of his most famous

563
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:12.920
ones was a western he did recently
restarted in called Boone Boom. Okay,

564
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:16.039
So what was your first time seeing
Ravenous? Oh gosh, it would have

565
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:21.239
been. I guarantee I rented it
on VHS because if it came out in

566
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:25.119
ninety nine, that means it was
on tape in two thousand and In my

567
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:30.360
household, I was the first DVD
player owner. Yeah, I remember your

568
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.079
story. Oh yeah, I tell
it on the show. I can't remember

569
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:37.159
it, I don't think. Uh
yeah. I come from humble beginnings.

570
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.920
My mother did a very good job
making sure we had what we needed.

571
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:45.880
And I was a huge movie fan, so getting a DVD player was not

572
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:50.960
a priority. But because I was
such a big movie fan, yeah,

573
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.000
my mom was open to it.
You know, to getting me one eventually

574
00:38:54.199 --> 00:39:00.519
somedayh Well, I figured out a
really good compromise. I like, what

575
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:06.280
if we get a DVD drive for
my PC? Because I had a PC

576
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:07.440
in my room that I did a
bunch of you know stuff on That'm like,

577
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.800
I'm like thirteen or fourteen, I
think maybe a little younger, maybe

578
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:14.239
a little older. And I was
like, what if I get the herd

579
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:19.480
of the drive, because then for
fifteen this is how things work. Then

580
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:23.079
if I have the drive for fifteen
dollars dollars, I can get a DVD

581
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:27.679
player because you had to. You
couldn't just have the driver the drive,

582
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.599
you had to have a player.
Yeah. So I got the player for

583
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:36.559
Christmas, and I got the drive
for my birthday, and the first time

584
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:42.239
I watched any DVDs it was on
my computer, not on my TV.

585
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:47.760
I wouldn't have a DVD player in
my in my bedroom or one in the

586
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:54.400
living room until about a year later
when Christmas finally hit with those Apex DVD

587
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:59.320
players that were like thirty six dollars. So when we rented a movie for

588
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.159
family and I especially or you know, we just rented like a brand new

589
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:07.039
Blockbuster movie or whatever. So that
we could all watch it together, all

590
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:10.000
mom and me and maybe my sister. We'd always go tape. Yeah,

591
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:13.400
because we had a VCR in the
living room, makes sense. And I

592
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.760
had a VCR in my bedroom too, so I didn't mind renting tapes.

593
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.880
So uh but yeah, I remember. One of the first big things I

594
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:23.760
ever watched on that computer was I
watched all three sleep Away Camps because I

595
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:29.320
was not I had never seen them. Yeah, and then Fangloria gave like

596
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:32.719
crazy reviews to the box set,
so and it was only thirty five bucks.

597
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:36.480
Man, I remember that box up. You don't remember it coming out

598
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:37.800
though, No, I don't,
but I remember that was a hunted four

599
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.440
box because that just I had the
Cross on it, the Cross which got

600
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:46.719
banned, the Red Cross. Actually
yeah, but I just remember I sat

601
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.639
down and that was the best Saturday
ever because I watched the first sleep Boy

602
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.760
Camp and when it was over,
I was just like WHOA. And then

603
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.599
I watched the other two and fell
in love with all three. Yeah.

604
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.239
No, that would be the turning
point. So I never had a life

605
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.400
where I didn't I either didn't know
sleep Boy Camp or I had one,

606
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:06.719
two, and three back to back. What about four. Didn't didn't fore

607
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:12.679
get included in that one? You
mean the survivor, the survivor. We're

608
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.000
not talking about return to sleep Boy
Camp. You know why we're not talking

609
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:15.719
about that. No, No,
I don't want to talk about returned to

610
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:21.039
sleep Boy Camp at all. Good. I'm talking about the Survivor. Oh,

611
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:22.280
oh, you are talking about this? Oh it was just raw footage

612
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.440
from a sequel that never got film, which was exclusive to Best Buy.

613
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:30.199
Yes, it was a sequel that
never got completed. They raised enough money

614
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:34.320
to shoot like three or four rolls
of film in one weekend with an actress

615
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:37.760
and an actor and that was it. It's so yeah, and people were

616
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:39.760
so confused. I remember being confused, even because I was a young man,

617
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:44.039
even though I had dreams of being
a filmmaker, I had not seen

618
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:46.679
unedited footage from film. So I
was like, Okay, I'm watching her

619
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:52.599
walk silent through the woods, and
now a color flash just happened. Now

620
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:54.400
she's sitting on a chair. Yep. Yeah it was bad. Yeah.

621
00:41:54.559 --> 00:42:01.159
Well, the real problem is some
filmmakers. I was gonna say audacious.

622
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:04.760
I think that's a good word.
Some audacious filmakers decided to try to make

623
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.400
a full movie out of it.
Yeah, but the problem is when you

624
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:10.119
edit together that that forty five minutes
of footage, it's really like six minutes

625
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.000
of movie tea. Yeah, so
didn't they there is it's a flu that

626
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:19.079
has other clips and that's all.
That's what it is. It's a it's

627
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.000
a whole thing where they claim like
that they have the right to do it.

628
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:25.159
Yeah, they don't really, But
I don't know. I'm not here

629
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:30.280
to lawyer, I'm here to eat, So go on, Davy. So

630
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.840
you were saying that you rented this, Yeah, yeah, sorry, I

631
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:38.719
forgot the question you asked me.
Yes, I rented it on tape and

632
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:44.559
watched it, and my mom was
super grossed out. She kind of checked

633
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.639
out of it. I could see
that she might have even went off and

634
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:50.639
did something else. I can't remember
for sure, but I am my older

635
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:53.239
sister was much older than me.
We both were enamored with My sister really

636
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.599
liked it, and I thought it
was pretty cool. But I was really

637
00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:01.400
super grossed out, and I found
the endings yeah, super scared, satisfying

638
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:04.599
and scared. So yeah, I
don't know about satisfying. I mean,

639
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.639
I wasn't quite old enough for that, like you, Davy, but uh

640
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.239
what about you? When did you
foresee it? So? I I think

641
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:14.000
I mentioned on the show before that
I was a frequent flea market shopper with

642
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.119
my father on Sundays, and in
doing so, that's how I kind of

643
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:20.159
started getting my VHS collection. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it.

644
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.440
You have a fub Yeah, let's
you shut up. But so one

645
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:27.000
of my tapes had a trailer for
Rabnuts on it, which was that trailer

646
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.920
I showed you, which has uh
so cheap your Boogeyman by Rob Zombie.

647
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.679
Yeah, what a weird I get
it though, like White Zombie. Actually

648
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.199
I can appreciate I think it was
White Zombie. Ye. I can appreciate

649
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.000
what they were going for with the
trailer because they were trying to hit a

650
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:43.000
different audience since it didn't find its
audience the first time. Yeah, they

651
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.039
were like, what if we make
this look just fun and badass and weird?

652
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:49.599
But boy, is that a weird
trailer. Keep in mind that uh

653
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:53.519
Disney's Planes, that movie, the
original trailer. The score on that trailer

654
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:57.960
was more human than a human.
Oh yeah, I believe that. Yeah,

655
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:01.000
I'm pretty sure that they were on
Disney's record label, it wouldn't surprise

656
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:06.800
me. Yeah, I'm almost certain
why Zombie was on Disney's record that anyway.

657
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:08.599
So I saw trailer for Rabinus,
and I went to the flea market

658
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:12.320
so often. I was like,
well, I'll absolutely come into it soon,

659
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:15.119
and sure enough got a copy of
it, watched it and just immediately

660
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:21.000
fell in love with its zaniness and
its disgusting concept and all that stuff,

661
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.199
and just this was a movie that
like a fourteen year old wouldlatch onto and

662
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.840
I did. I mean, I
get, I mean, I feel like,

663
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.280
maybe not the average fourteen year old. It has some pretty heavy,

664
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.039
heavy concepts it does, and the
trailer made it look more action packed than

665
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:37.079
it is. Okay, you can
I think you can admit this was it

666
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:40.159
because the guys in the movie were
cool. Oh yeah, okay, I'm

667
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:44.000
not trying to pick on you.
That's thing with teenage boys. Yeah,

668
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.079
It's like every dude in that movie
was like super cool and like rugged and

669
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:51.280
tough, and to be perfectly honest, I think this was probably the point

670
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:53.280
in my life that I had my
vhs LA Confidential, which I would watch,

671
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:58.519
not even understating, probably once a
month. So I was I was

672
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:00.599
into Guy Pierce at that point too, so fact that he was in a

673
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:01.480
horror film, I was like,
fuck, yeah, and how old were

674
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:06.840
you again? Fourteen fourteen? Yeah, probably a little old for Jeffrey Jones

675
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:14.679
to be happy you were watching there
is that. I'm so proud of myself.

676
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.880
Okay, but no, I mean
this has become a winter favorite of

677
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:22.119
mine because it is snowy out the
ass and you have whoa, you just

678
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:25.480
have this again. The sense of
isolation that's in this movie is what's most

679
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:30.679
terrifying to me. I I I
see what I did there. Sorry,

680
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.519
but yeah, no, I revisit
this every winter. So it was an

681
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.679
absolute pleasure to bring this to the
show because I just I love this fucking

682
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:52.039
movie. Do You Even? Movie
will be right back, welcome back to

683
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:59.000
do You Even? Movie? Yeah? No, it's a really fun one

684
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.039
and one that I've really enjoyed revisiting. Yeah, I'm so glad it got

685
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:06.159
a nice Blu ray release. Then
that kind of put it back onto people's

686
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:07.679
sites. I think too, because
I remember how excited I was when they

687
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:12.920
announced those So are you ready to
get into it? Into what the movie?

688
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.039
Let's all go to the that's I
mean, that's about not going to

689
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:20.960
the movie, but uh, all
right, fine, all right, the

690
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:22.760
hell I'm in. So we open
with a shot of an American flag as

691
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:28.039
we see Boyd who is being accommodated
for getting a hold of enemy lines.

692
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.440
He secured a station and he's flashing
back to the events and we see that

693
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:36.639
all his men around him are dying
in bad His flashbacks are bloody, even

694
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:43.119
by war flashback standards, absolutely like
it's friggin wet, yeah, with blood

695
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:49.079
like, and that's kind of the
the imagery they're selling right now is not

696
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:53.760
just dead bodies, not just bloody
bodies. Everything is soaking in blood like

697
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:59.559
it makes you makes it to the
point where you can almost smell his flashbacks

698
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:04.639
because I can't over I really want
to sell it properly. Wet with blood.

699
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:09.400
Yeah, no, it's like soaking
drenched, sticky with blood. And

700
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:14.360
I love the sequence because after the
accommodation, what do they do to the

701
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.480
men to show them they care.
They serve them all steaks, and I

702
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:22.480
love that the plates are just a
steak too big for the plate, no

703
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:27.280
vegetables, and a pile of bread
in the middle of the table people could

704
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.800
pass around, So it's all about
that steak, which, honestly, I

705
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.119
mean, if you think about the
era and what those guys have been through,

706
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:37.079
they probably hadn't had a steak in
front of That's why they chopping down

707
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:39.440
on it. Well, and also
to make us even sicker because now we're

708
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:46.039
looking at these nasty, bloody steaks
very rare. I mean a lot of

709
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:52.480
this was rare. Yeah, And
as they're chomping down, our main character

710
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:59.000
is just more. All it does
is remind him of those moist memories,

711
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.760
which, by the way, will
be the name of your autobiography. So

712
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:06.960
he's visually repulsed. We see him
go throw up, and as Enrique said,

713
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.119
that's when we get the credit rev
Seiler and then Revenue. So we

714
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:14.280
hear his captain, General Slawson,
who is telling him that he's gonna be

715
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:16.039
sent to Fort Spencer in California because
he hates him. Yeah, because he

716
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:19.679
hates him. Because we'll find out
a little bit that he's not the hero

717
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.239
that we're supposed to believe. I
mean, he's a hero, but he

718
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.639
kind of tripped into it after being
a coward. Coward. Yeah, So

719
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.079
he travels to the fore and that's
our credits, and we're seeing beautiful range

720
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:32.599
of the Sierra Nevadas and just there's
snow falling and we see him trekking.

721
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:36.559
He gets to the fore and meets
Martha there who shows him his quarters,

722
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:39.440
and we flash back once again to
Boyd and he is watching his men be

723
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:43.719
slaughtered. He's seeing everybody just sink
to the ground covered in blood. So

724
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:46.000
then he just cowards down and goes
into the mud. As well. We

725
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:50.480
find out that they buried the bodies
of his comrades on top of him.

726
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:52.880
He hid in the bodies, snuck
out, and that's how he took the

727
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:55.800
enemy outposts. He basically faked he
was dead, yeah, and laid for

728
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.360
hours and hours in a pile of
his dead comrades, yeah, until he

729
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:05.039
could sneak out. And why he
said to Fort Spencer is because they're like,

730
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:07.400
you know, we could shoot you, but since you took the enemy

731
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.320
outpost, like, it's puts a
bad taste in people. Technically a war

732
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:15.039
hero, yeah, it's just by
way of cowardice. Yeah. So then

733
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:16.840
we meet Colonel Hart who's played by
Jeffrey Jones, and he goes over the

734
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:20.599
company and what Fort Spencer is,
it's a way station on the way to

735
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:23.039
Nevadas, and they don't get much
traffic in the winter when the storms and

736
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:29.519
everything sweep in. There's Toffler,
there's George Cleaves Knox who is the general,

737
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.760
and doctor Martha, and that is
our posse of Fort Spencer. And

738
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.119
you makes eight. That's the way
he says it, which I feel was

739
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:42.480
a reference to Agatha Christie and ten
little Indians. Yeah, then there were

740
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:45.760
none because and you makes eight?
That now, don't I mean? I

741
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:50.000
mean I have not read ten Little
Indians? Or isn't that also called twist

742
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:51.960
of the screw? Not twisted the
screw, No, not that one.

743
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:53.960
There's ten Little Indians and then there
was and then there were none? Was

744
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:57.960
the retitling of it. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, ten Little Indians isn't

745
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:01.840
the most no respectful time the title? Well, but you know, uh

746
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:07.400
so. But I felt like that
was a reference. That I could be

747
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:08.840
over looking into things, but it
really did feel like it. And I

748
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:15.920
love for for context. As Jeffrey
Jones is talking about about them, he's

749
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:21.360
eating walnuts. Yes, so he's
just he's got a mouthful of food as

750
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:24.079
he's talking. The whole time he's
eating and eating and eating. And then

751
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:28.960
how do We transition out of the
scene by him saying, like, so

752
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:32.840
and so's the cook I would recommend
not eating but but most but most have

753
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:36.760
to. Yeah, but most men
have to and going over our posse.

754
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:40.320
So. Toffler is played by Jeremy
Davies. He played Charles Manson in the

755
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:45.079
two thousand and three Heldra Skelter.
He's also Dicky on Justified. Yeah.

756
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:50.079
We also have George, who is
played by Joseph Running Fox Cleaves, David

757
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:53.320
Arquette, Yes, and and our
Quette honestly very well used yes in this

758
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:57.920
because he's kind of just the goofball
guy, but when he has to be

759
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.400
dramatic, he does a really great
job. Yeah. And then made Knox

760
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:05.280
is played by Steven Spanella and Martha
is played by Sheila Towsey. Great cast

761
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:07.000
of actors in this. The supporting
cast of this film makes it all the

762
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:09.960
more fun than it is too.
Oh, everybody in it is on their

763
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:14.880
game. Yeah. So BOYD flashes
back and we see everything happen as it

764
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.559
unfolds, with him being buried under
his dead He climbs out takes the station,

765
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:21.920
and that's when you find out that
his promotion was completely an insult to

766
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:22.920
him because they're like, we're gonna
shoot you, or we can send you

767
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:25.519
here, So they get him completely
out of the hair. Later that night,

768
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:29.320
Heart asked Boyd if he wants to
join him because Knox has just knotted

769
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.039
off drunk and passed out, and
he's like, he's got some excellent bourbon.

770
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:34.199
Yeah, and he's like, you
know, do you think of mind?

771
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.559
He's like, I don't know.
So then that night, as they're

772
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.199
drinking, a stranger appears outside the
window, a lonely traveler who's near death

773
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:43.719
from frostbite. So they take him
in and bathe him, and that's when

774
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:46.599
we meet Calhoun, and so they
have a signed offer to watch over him.

775
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:50.400
The next morning, Calhoun wakes up
and he asked where he is,

776
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.159
and he nearly breaks down when he
finds out that he's north into Nevadas,

777
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.559
and he is freaking out and he's
like, you know what, you know

778
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:59.320
what where? Heart asked him,
how long have you been out there?

779
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:01.320
He's like three months, like without
food, and he goes yeah. But

780
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:04.760
then he goes ask him again and
he's like, well, he said I

781
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.480
did I said there wasn't food.
I didn't say we had anything to eat.

782
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:08.800
I didn't say we had nothing to
eat. I said we had no

783
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:14.760
food, which I think is a
really great way to kind of bring this

784
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.119
about. Yeah, that moment I
said there was I said there was no

785
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:21.159
food, not that there was nothing
to eat. Yeah. So then we

786
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:23.960
get the story that Calhoun was part
of a wagon train of six and their

787
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:28.760
guy, Colonel Ives, had an
idea for a route that was off the

788
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:30.880
trail that would get them quicker through
the sierras. So the guy claimed to

789
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:35.400
know a shorter route, but unfortunately
winter hits before they reach the Nevadas,

790
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:37.639
and they have to go into a
cave because that's the only way of shelter

791
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.239
they have at this point. Yeah, which I mean a cave is a

792
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:44.159
good a good enough shelter, Yeah, if you're not starving to death.

793
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.559
So they go into the cave and
they shortly run out of food. They

794
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.960
eat the oxes, they eat the
horses, they eat the chickens, and

795
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:52.920
then they start eating their belts and
their shoes. But the hunger still persists.

796
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:58.480
It and yet we persist, and
yet we persist. So they remain

797
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.239
famished and unfortunately have to turn to
cannibalism, which they do so by one

798
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:06.119
of their own dying of malnourishment.
Calhoun says that he wasn't for the idea,

799
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:07.639
but walking back into the cave and
finding out that they were cooking his

800
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:10.639
legs and the smell of it,
he was He smiled at the smell of

801
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:15.960
meat, is what he says.
Yeah, And and when we find out

802
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:20.880
Calhoun what his real deal is,
it's fascinating that he's telling the story because,

803
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.079
uh, a spoiler alert, where's
the where's the spoiler alert? His

804
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:29.920
story is a bunch of bullshit.
Yeah, why why even confess to cannibalism?

805
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:34.159
Yeah, Uh, if you're gonna
just if you're gonna just tell everybody,

806
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:36.239
or you're just gonna Yeah, Like, I don't know. I thought

807
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:37.639
that he's fucking with him. The
way he spends it, though, is

808
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.320
what gets him out there, And
that's that's the genius move on his part.

809
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:43.480
Yeah, that is, that's a
fair point. So things get out

810
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:46.920
of hand and they decide that they're
going to keep going with the killing,

811
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:51.000
and that's when Calhoun starts to notice. The party starts going. One goes,

812
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.400
another goes and then hits just him, ives and McCready's wife, and

813
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:58.519
maccreedy was one of the people left
over. So Calhoun decides to flee for

814
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:00.039
his life because he knows that he's
going to die if he stays there.

815
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.280
And that's when he has wound up. Now it's Fort Spencer, yes,

816
00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:08.840
and they've managed to warm him up. He seems oddly well, he's only

817
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:14.039
a little skinny, which they mentioned
kind of immediately, and then he immediately

818
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:15.440
says like, you should have seen
me before I was thirty pounds heavier and

819
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:21.719
all this stuff. And yeah.
So now, of course Jeffrey Jones character

820
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:23.360
Colonel Hart, he hears of this
and he's like, well, we've got

821
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:27.239
to you gotta go find him,
Are you crazy? Yeah, and he's

822
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:29.599
like, it's our job. Yeah, it's our job. We got to

823
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:32.079
go out there. And that's when
George pulls his attention aside and tells him

824
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:35.400
the myth of the wind to Go, which, Enrique, would you like

825
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:37.360
to take this? The Windy Go? Oh man, Well, I've covered

826
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:43.320
this a lot on my show Weekly
Spooky, and the Windygo is an old

827
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:47.719
Native American legend, mostly algonquin and
all but juwey. Sorry if I'm saying

828
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:52.440
that a little harsh or wrong,
but uh, mostly around where we're from

829
00:54:52.639 --> 00:55:01.760
the Ohio's, Indiana places like that, and it's basically the story of hunger

830
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:07.440
and desperation in the winter leading people
to cannibalism, and then once they consume

831
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:13.039
a human being, they consume human
flesh, they get inherited by a spirit,

832
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.800
a spirit known as the Wendy Go, and the Wendy Go in this

833
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:23.760
movie it's simplified, but the Wendygo
references a need for more gluttony. It

834
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:30.880
represents a selfishness that takes over your
soul and makes you hungry for more and

835
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:36.079
basically long and the short once you've
eaten human flesh, you can never stop

836
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:39.239
any human flesh. Nothing will sate
your hunger, not even really the human

837
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:43.360
flesh with And that's the other thing. A lot of the Wendygo stories say

838
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.039
that the more you eat, the
thinner you get, and you just keep

839
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:51.360
going and going until eventually you'd go
mad and die hunger. And that's the

840
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:54.840
thing is you basically either kill your
fellow man or you starve to death,

841
00:55:55.199 --> 00:56:00.000
and there's no other choice. And
a lot of people think that the Wendigo

842
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:08.559
myth was about properly what's the word
properly demonizing cannibalism in the native world at

843
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:15.440
that time, because a lot of
people had risked or potentially committed cannibalism because

844
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:17.599
the winters were so harsh, I
mean, so brutal. I mean this

845
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:22.320
is beyond you know, they were
natives and they didn't know any no,

846
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:25.079
no, they knew how to live
and they knew when they were going to

847
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:30.679
die in those weather situations. So
that was kind of the concept, was

848
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:32.280
that it was like there was this
idea to make it an ultimate taboo,

849
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:34.480
to where it was like, no, no, no, if you eat

850
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:37.360
human flesh, you'll be cursed,
not just you know, sad about it.

851
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:42.079
So and obviously human flesh eating,
as we've been talking about, has

852
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:46.239
been a taboo for a very long
time, and nearly every culture there's references

853
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:50.199
to cannibalism and things like that.
But it is interesting that they bring up

854
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:52.239
the Windy Go because when the movie
started and I realized that they were out

855
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:55.199
near California, I was like,
well, there aren't a lot of believers

856
00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:59.159
in the Windy Go out there.
They mentioned that it's from up north,

857
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:04.440
but really be far east of course, like the Midwest basically of America,

858
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:09.000
like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois,
Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, places like

859
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:12.880
that. I always joke when I
go on my trips up to northern Michigan

860
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:14.960
and I'm like, way up in
the middle of nowhere, in the dead

861
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:16.760
snow, I always joke that,
like I'm just like ah, like I

862
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:20.639
just stopped driving once to hear the
Wendy Go scream. That's what I know.

863
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:22.159
I'm in the right place. I'm
always going where the Wendy Go lives

864
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.159
to hang out. And I always
say, if I ever saw that Wendy

865
00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:29.800
Go, I'd kiss him on the
mouth. So anyway, but no,

866
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.239
so that's basically a Wendy Go legend. Now there are a lot of variations

867
00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:36.800
and stuff like that, but basically, if you eat a person, it'll

868
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:39.559
make you feel amazing and powerful,
but it'll make you greedy and gluttonous for

869
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:44.920
more of every and often it's of
everything, not just not just human flesh,

870
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:49.239
but power and strength and women and
money and everything. Yeah. So

871
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:51.960
this version, he says, the
eating the flesh of another man gives the

872
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:55.360
man his strength that he consumes and
he wants more. So Heart asks George.

873
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:58.239
He's like, well, that doesn't
happen anymore, doesn't he goes,

874
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:00.039
well, people break the bread bread
of crime every Sunday, and he's like,

875
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.760
I do love that point. He's
like, actually, I mean Jesus

876
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:07.840
has a cannibal element to it.
So Colonel hart Toffler, Boyd, Reich,

877
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:09.920
George, and Calhoun set out for
the cave, and we see them

878
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:13.880
trekking through the Nevada as they stopped
for a night for camp. They're continuing

879
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.039
the next morning, trekking through the
hills and at one point Heart they're on

880
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:19.199
top of a peak and he's like, all right, bourbon break. So

881
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.599
they stop and sip some bourbon,
and Boyd takes the opportunity to ask Calhoun

882
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:25.039
about the effects of consuming flesh.
You know, did he feel anything different?

883
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:27.679
You know, it's like, oh, yeah, I heard that legend.

884
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:29.719
He's like, I guess you could
say that I felt like a little

885
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:31.119
revitalized, you know, after the
first taste. You could say that.

886
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:36.119
But you wouldn't be freaked out by
hearing that, because when you're starving,

887
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:39.440
any food in your stomach would make
you feel amazing. Yeah, it really

888
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:42.760
would. I mean, I mean, gosh, I mean, uh,

889
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:46.000
any any time have you ever eaten
like a you know, just a fine

890
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:49.719
meal, but you were starving.
Oh yeah, you know. I mean,

891
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.480
if you're starving a brick of ramen
noodles is good, you're gonna be

892
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:55.840
You're gonna be like, oh man, yeah, it's so good. That

893
00:58:55.960 --> 00:59:00.360
was one thing I learned doing a
lot of intermittent fasting. I would do

894
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:04.519
like a seventy two hour fast.
Whatever you eat delicious, it could be

895
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:08.800
plain kale, and you would be
like, it's so good for us.

896
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:14.320
Plain corn would taste sweet as candy, so like it does. It amplifies

897
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:16.079
your your taste buds and stuff.
Of course, I did not eat human

898
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:21.920
flesh after by no, not yet. So he takes the up Jude ask

899
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:23.719
Calhoun. Calhoun says, revitalized him. Up on the top of the hill,

900
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:27.519
Toffler finds a bone, but he's
not paying attention, and he suddenly

901
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:30.159
falls down the backside rolling on some
rocks and gets stabbed in the side by

902
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:34.480
some jagged rocks. So Toffler is
off for a little bit. We see

903
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:37.719
him being bandaged by Reich later in
a tent, and he's also requesting bourbon,

904
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:42.119
which I love because first he shouts
bourbon, nobody moves bourbon. Yeah,

905
00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:47.840
I love that burba Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back,

906
00:59:55.360 --> 01:00:02.719
Welcome back to Do You Even?
Movie. So he's being bandaged by

907
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:07.199
Reich, and Reich takes notice that
Boyd is uneasy when he sees blood.

908
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:09.960
Later that night, Toffler wakes up
screaming as the tent is illuminated to reveal

909
01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:14.880
that Calhoun was licking his wounds and
his mouth actually has blood caked around.

910
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:19.159
Yeah, he doesn't even hide it
because he once he's called out for it,

911
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:21.679
he's just like, please, like
tie me up or something, because

912
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:27.119
I couldn't resist. And that's where
we get that legendary he was like it,

913
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:30.239
which is just one of the top
moments of the whole film. Yeah,

914
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:34.639
So Calhoun is bound and he's in
Reich's hands as they're leading him on

915
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.920
our little rope across the rest of
the trip, and they get to the

916
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.239
cave and that's when you see Calhoun
start to freak out. He's approaching it

917
01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:43.920
and he's just getting nervous and begging
them to go back. Yeah, and

918
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:45.760
the way the one guy describes it
is he says he's spooked, which is

919
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:50.920
how you describe animals usually. Yeah, he's just shaking and panicked. And

920
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:54.239
afraid. So the group stations outside
the cave as Heart calls to missus McCready

921
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:58.639
and Colonel ives no answer, so
he sends Boyd and Reike in to investigate.

922
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:01.920
Inside the cave, discovery has made
that it's five bodies instead of four,

923
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:06.599
meaning the Calhoun is the killer killed
ives and all of them. And

924
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:08.920
outside, Calhoun we see is digging
up a knife Toaffler, noticing this is

925
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:12.199
calling to him, and that's when
Heart comes over. He's like he spooked.

926
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:15.079
He goes to the cave as Reich
and Boyd are calling to him to

927
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:20.599
like kill Calhoun. He's a trader
murderer, and just as he starts to

928
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:23.000
hear it, Calhoun sneaks up,
stabs Heart right in the gut and takes

929
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:27.199
the knife and brings it right up, slicing him. Yeah, it's brutal

930
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:31.599
and the beginning of many moments of
brutality. Yeah, so George has seen

931
01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:35.239
this happen. He's up on a
ridge and he goes to hit Calhoun with

932
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:37.280
an axe, but Calhoun spins Heart's
body around as he takes the axe.

933
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.880
He takes Heart's pistol off him shoots
George dead. So now it's just Toffler

934
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:46.480
and Calhoun, and of course Toffler's
freaking out, and hilariously, Calhoun goes

935
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:50.039
up to him. He's walking up
the knife and Taffler is just frozen.

936
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:53.280
He's like, run, yeah,
run, And so Toffler goes off,

937
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:57.079
screaming up the other side of the
stream. That's when we have Boyd and

938
01:01:57.199 --> 01:02:00.400
Reich reached the cave and they are
trying to find who's screaming, and they

939
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:04.719
go over to the side. They're
calling for him. Calhoun's laughing hysterically.

940
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:07.840
Suddenly they find Tawfler and he has
been completely good. And it's important to

941
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:14.320
point out Calhoun's mentality has changed entirely. Now he is playful and insane.

942
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:17.920
Yeah, before he was fearful and
he had like a secret maybe, but

943
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:22.039
he was not a nut job.
Well now he is just going fully hanniballected.

944
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:24.960
And before he does the thing with
run, I forgot. He goes

945
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:28.199
to shoot Toffler because he has the
pistol still, and he goes and he

946
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:32.199
clicks, doesn't go off, and
he goes that's so annoying. No,

947
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:36.800
he has a lot of choice moments
as a just total netter. Yeah,

948
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:39.679
so Reich is trailing behind him to
get to the side of the cliff.

949
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:43.480
Reich fires a shot, but he
misses him and he suddenly vanishes. So

950
01:02:43.559 --> 01:02:45.800
Wright goes over to the cliff.
Boyd follows him, and suddenly Calhoun drops

951
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:49.599
down from some trees, throwing a
knife at Reich, which takes him over

952
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.280
the side of the cliff. And
now it's just Boyd and Calhoun face to

953
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:58.559
face. Yeah, and it is
a terrifying moment. Terrifying. There's something

954
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:02.880
about a human being being like him, knowing that he is hungry for your

955
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.320
flesh that is truly mortifying. So
Boyd fires his rifle, dropping Calhoun to

956
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:10.360
the ground, but he shortly sits
up and he's laughing, and he's now

957
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:14.559
cornered. Boys to the edge of
the cliff. So Boyd has no choice,

958
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:16.159
and he just doubles back and jumps
over the side of the cliff,

959
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:20.800
falling down. Yeah, he pulls
a John Rambo. He just jumps onto

960
01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:23.400
the tree and hopes that the branches
will slow his fall enough that maybe he'll

961
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:28.760
live. But it gets pretty ugly
as he falls down the tree and realizes

962
01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:32.519
his comrade is also in that tree, and he ends up taking him with

963
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:37.679
him. And then they end up
falling into some kind of a hole in

964
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:42.440
the ground, and it's it's talk
about mortifying. I know, he keep

965
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:45.960
saying mortifying. This movie is mortifying, mortifying as his buddy was, you

966
01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:51.159
know, the other who they were
not big friend is hanging upside down and

967
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:53.320
he's sitting there trying to figure out
what happened and where they landed. He's

968
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:58.159
just choking up and choking up.
Well, no, he's choking on and

969
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:00.400
then you realize he's alive. I
don't think he's laughing. I think he's

970
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:03.199
just dying smiling. But I don't
think he's smiling. I think he's just

971
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:10.280
upside down. I'm just I'm my
personal opinion. He's just upside down strangling

972
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:13.199
him. Yeah, yeah, And
then he falls choking, stops, and

973
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:15.679
then it's just him in the hole
with him. So now Calhoun starts making

974
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:18.159
his trek down the mountain looking for
them, and since they're covered in this

975
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:21.360
hole, Calhoun doesn't find them.
So then we see Calhoun just having a

976
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:25.840
barbecue as he's dragging other bodies into
the case. Yeah, And as I

977
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:29.800
commented immediately, I was like,
look at that. No smartphones, just

978
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:34.159
people in the moment. But so
now our main character is stuck in a

979
01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:40.079
situation where he's horribly injured. Yep, he's stuck in that hole. He's

980
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:45.639
freezing and starving, and he knows, because the Wendy go is real,

981
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:50.320
that if he eats that flesh he
will get his strength. He will get

982
01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:55.199
not just his strength, but he'll
heal. He'll heal, he'll completely be

983
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:59.559
back to it. And this guy
that died with him was a tough mother

984
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:02.800
hover, Yes, he was,
so eating his flesh would bring you up,

985
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:09.800
you know. So eventually he makes
that choice, gives in mainly because

986
01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:13.400
he just wants out of that hole. Yeah, and to potentially stop Calhoun.

987
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:15.840
Yeah. And while this is happening, we also see Cleaves and Martha

988
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.119
have arrived back. It's Fort Spencer
and they're on the lookout for them.

989
01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:20.440
We see them doing about their test, but the he looking towards the hills,

990
01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:24.920
waiting for them to come back.
So Boyd wakes up the next morning

991
01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:28.519
and begins his trek back to Fort
Spencer alone. He's trekking through the hills

992
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:30.440
and the snow and makes it back. He goes to ask Martha as soon

993
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:32.519
as he's back about the wind to
go and how to stop it, and

994
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:35.400
Martha tells him there is no stopping
it. Yeah, there ain't no stopping

995
01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:39.599
There are no legends where you can
stop a Wendy go once you become one,

996
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:43.320
yeah, I mean it's over.
So he's also called on durdin General

997
01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:45.880
Slawson to send him to the cave
to find the bodies and inspect and everything.

998
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:51.199
And he's basically being blamed for the
deaths at this point. Oh basically,

999
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:56.280
because when he tells his story,
the first thing they have is they're

1000
01:05:56.320 --> 01:05:59.639
like, look, we're not saying
you're lying, but if you admit now

1001
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:04.480
that you were scared and confused and
tell us what really happened, that they

1002
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:08.519
died of misadventure, that you were
scared, that you da da da da

1003
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:11.360
da, will be kinder to you. And of course his response is,

1004
01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:15.840
no, I saw what happened to
them. A man named Calhoun murdered them.

1005
01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:21.239
And his response is like, hold
up, fam we don't believe you,

1006
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:27.719
but we got to replace your commanding
officers. So we got someone to

1007
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:30.519
take care of business until we figure
out what we're gonna do next. So

1008
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:34.239
Slawson tells him they have a new
temporary Colonel joining and introduces Colonel Ives as

1009
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:39.599
Calhoun walks in in full soldier attire, causing boy to immediately panic, and

1010
01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:44.320
he's cleaned up, his facial hair
is shaved nicely, and at that moment

1011
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:49.280
we realize no one who got a
good look at Calhoun is still alive except

1012
01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:54.199
for our man, So he tells
him that Knox can confirm that that's him.

1013
01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:57.000
Knox didn't get a good look.
That's the point. Knox was drunk

1014
01:06:57.079 --> 01:06:59.960
and passed out, does not recall
him, but Knox humors him, saying

1015
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:01.239
and that if Boyd shot him in
the shoulder, the wound would still be

1016
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:04.960
there. So they invite Ives in
and he strips his shoulders out and there

1017
01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:10.679
are no bullet wounds anyway, And
that's where we establish that it's almost where

1018
01:07:10.719 --> 01:07:14.519
will fly healing of capability. That's
where we really get the sense that it's

1019
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:17.599
like no, it can like literally
make you invincible almost as long as you

1020
01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:21.760
keep eating, you keep getting stronger. So slows in his troops leave and

1021
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:27.719
Boyd goes to warm up, or
goes to warm clean worn Cleave and Cleaves

1022
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:30.639
and Martha, but he finds Cleaves
talking shit about him, and that he's

1023
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:31.880
crazy and he's the killer. So
he's like, you know, well you've

1024
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.400
been worn. And then Boyd is
out watching Cleaves chop some wood, and

1025
01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:39.480
he has this crazy vision that he
goes up to Cleve, hits him with

1026
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:42.400
the hammer and then just starts cutting
him open and eating him while Cleves laughs

1027
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:44.960
at him. Yeah, that's the
part that like, I love that because

1028
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:46.960
that's insane. Yeah, he's just
laughing and coughing up blood as he's ripping

1029
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:50.719
into his flesh. Yeah, And
it's at that moment that he mentions later

1030
01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:55.480
on, he keeps mentioning like I
have these nightmares, these constant nightmares,

1031
01:07:55.559 --> 01:08:00.440
yeah, about eating flesh, and
it's tormenting me. And that maybe because

1032
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:05.559
Boyd is not a monster. No
he's not. I mean he's becoming a

1033
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:10.039
monster, yeah, but he himself
is not a monster monster. And I

1034
01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:13.800
don't think we can say so about
Calhoun, not just yet. No,

1035
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:16.479
no, no, no, Calhoun
is a monster. He is. He's

1036
01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:20.000
a human monster. He is very, very scary of this. So Boyd

1037
01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:24.079
has the crazy vision and the next
we see the five of them all in

1038
01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:27.760
the cabin parlor, just enjoying the
evening. You got Calhoun reading a book,

1039
01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:30.479
knocks and Cleaves are doing our playing
chess, and Martha's knitting, and

1040
01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:35.680
Boyd is just watching Calhoun and he's
almost falling asleep. Yeah, yeah,

1041
01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:39.359
he's starting to nod off. He
reminds me of a cat. Yeah,

1042
01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:43.680
so I've shuts his book really quick, getting everybody on the alert as Boyd

1043
01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:46.359
rises up with a knife and Martha
draws a knife on Boyd, and Calhoun's

1044
01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:48.600
like, all right, I think
everybody, it's time for bed. Yeah,

1045
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:53.079
I think everyone might be a bit
tied. So later that night,

1046
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:56.159
Boyd sits outside of Calhoun's hut with
a knife and he comes out and he

1047
01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:59.279
tells Boyd that, you know,
I found Reich's body. You didn't finish

1048
01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:00.520
him off. I get it.
He was tough, but a good old

1049
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:04.800
a good soldier ought to be.
Yeah, he's so Hannibal Electory. Now.

1050
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:08.640
Yeah, he's smoking, smoking his
cigarette and he's just out, you

1051
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:11.840
know, just telling him everything.
And he talks about how he learned the

1052
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:14.520
legend of the wind to Go from
an Indian scout and you know, hearing

1053
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:15.319
it, he just had to try
it. So at first he ate the

1054
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:21.680
Indian scout, Yeah, which I
mean his Yeah, these his monologues are

1055
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:25.479
incredible in this so good, so
that confirms that he was right. And

1056
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:28.560
then he admits that he is eating
five men in three months, and he

1057
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:31.000
calls Boyd out on being a coward
because he knows the power, he knows

1058
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:33.920
what he can do, but he's
still not doing it. So hearing this,

1059
01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:36.479
Boyd takes his swipe and ives,
cutting his hand open, and Ives

1060
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:40.199
tries to entice him with the set
of blood, reminding him of the smell

1061
01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:43.800
and the taste and how you would
feel better. Boyd refuses, but he

1062
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:45.319
goes to attack eyes, but Martha
comes up, draws a knife to his

1063
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:49.039
throat, and Knox puts Boyd under
arrest. Yeah, and and of course

1064
01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:57.800
all of this because perfectly Calhoun is
making Boyd look like he's the psychopath he

1065
01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:01.640
was killing and eating people. Yes, And frankly, since he is a

1066
01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:06.720
Wendy go, you know, he
looks he hasn't eaten since that one time.

1067
01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:11.920
He looks sickly, he looks unwell, he looks crazy. And on

1068
01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:14.560
top of that, this man who, as far as everybody's concerned, he

1069
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:17.079
never met. He's positive he's met
him before. Yeah, and it just

1070
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:20.800
looks real bad. So about to
get worse because Knox calls for Martha to

1071
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:25.319
go find cleaves. She can't find
cleaves, so she goes into the barn

1072
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:30.199
and finds all the animals slaughtered.
And we're talking heads hanging up, Torso's

1073
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:32.159
hanging up. So somebody has intentionally
got in they're slaughtered and has eaten some

1074
01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:36.520
of these animals, and animals in
this context, I mean we're talking horses

1075
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:42.520
Oxen thing like, we're talking animals
that would have allowed them to go get

1076
01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:45.399
help quickly and efficiently, because it's
a big there's a big difference between riding

1077
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.960
a horse out to get help and
hiking for three days. Yeah, big

1078
01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:51.920
difference. So she runs to tel
Knox and as she walks up to the

1079
01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:55.840
window, she's calling to Knox and
starts to have some blood fall on her

1080
01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:59.479
face. That's when she looks up
and starts getting terrified because Knox walks out

1081
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:02.159
stands with the and finds Cleeve's body
gutted on the roof of the cabin and

1082
01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:06.439
it's an incredible reveal where the blood
is dripping onto her face and she's just

1083
01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:11.039
so scared by it. She just
stands there and shot yes, And that's

1084
01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:16.399
when we realize that maybe something else
is going on. Because Calhoun, I'm

1085
01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:19.439
gonna keep calling him Calhoun because it's
confusing that he changed, he becomes another

1086
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:26.119
character. Calhoun is only one man, and he was mostly just fighting with

1087
01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:30.159
Boyd all Night who killed all these
animal stuff, Like when could he have

1088
01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:33.800
done it? Yes? So,
now if I remember correctly, the young

1089
01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:38.319
lady what was her name, Martha? Martha, Yeah, she's gotta They

1090
01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:43.520
ask for volunteers. Who's gonna go
get help? Help? Yeah, they

1091
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:46.079
want to place boy in her military
arrest. Yeah, and she volunteers because

1092
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:50.239
as a Native woman, she can
handle that hype and she knows where she's

1093
01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:53.720
going. Yeah, And frankly,
I wouldn't want to be I think she

1094
01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:57.479
also just didn't want to be there
anymore. Her last friend she lost her

1095
01:11:57.560 --> 01:12:00.720
husband, remember he was the Native
American that was on the tree. And

1096
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:04.279
then her brother brother, Oh sorry
brother, thank you. And then Arquette

1097
01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:08.119
was her brother's best friend, and
then was the one who she leaned into

1098
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:11.960
when she was mourning him. And
now he's gone too. So it's like

1099
01:12:12.359 --> 01:12:14.239
if I was her, I'd be
like, yeah, I'm gonna go get

1100
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:17.199
him. And then I'm also not
gonna come back. So now we have

1101
01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:28.079
two cannibals, one evil and one
neutral. Yeah, and this poor drunk

1102
01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:30.880
good enough doctor. I'm sure he'll
farewell. I'm sure he's going to do

1103
01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:36.720
very well. As they have boy
tied up, yes, awaiting because they

1104
01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:42.560
can't do anything else with because they're
awaiting military military prison. So you got

1105
01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:45.000
boyd, Ives and and Major Knox
are all together now, and we see

1106
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:49.039
that Ives is preparing a stew as
he calls to Boyd calls to Knox because

1107
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:51.600
he wants to know he's still wive. Ives Is Calhoun? Yes, ives

1108
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:57.399
Is Calhoun. Knox questions Ives about
his missing saber because he notices in the

1109
01:12:57.439 --> 01:13:00.039
parlor that one of his sabers is
missing above the fireplace. Before he mentions

1110
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:04.359
that, he says one of my
favorite little moments. He asks Calhoun if

1111
01:13:04.359 --> 01:13:08.800
he can help him make the stew
Yes, and Calhoun says, oh,

1112
01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:12.800
I'm sure you'll contribute to it.
Point later, we'll take your contribution too.

1113
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:15.439
You'll contribute it something. So I've
states that he hasn't seen it,

1114
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:17.960
and perhaps later that you might contribute
to the soup. Boyd asked Gyves,

1115
01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:21.159
when did he have time to kill
cleaves and the horses, which pisses Knocks

1116
01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:24.119
off. So he goes to shut
the door on Boyd. While he does

1117
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:28.479
that, we see somebody with his
sabers slip behind and then Knox comes back

1118
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:30.199
into the room. He's like,
well, who opened that door? He

1119
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:33.039
goes to shut the door and we
hear knocks go oh, and then slice

1120
01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:39.279
Major Knox is dead, Boyd,
here's the body hit and the door opens

1121
01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:42.920
and what do you know? It's
Colonel Heart. Colonel Heart, Jeffrey Jones

1122
01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:47.079
not dead, but he looks I
mean, he looks much better than a

1123
01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:49.399
dead man. He's you know,
he's like he walks in, he's like,

1124
01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:55.479
hi, Boyd. Yeah, what
a great twist, and what a

1125
01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:58.479
great way to keep us on our
toes as an audience, because I would

1126
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:01.279
not have seen that coming the little
least the first time I watched this,

1127
01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:03.960
that was like, holy shit,
I did not expect that. Yeah,

1128
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:08.279
and he's he's a little bloody,
he's a little worse for wear, but

1129
01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:11.760
obviously, like we said before,
he had his guts were spilling out before,

1130
01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:15.279
so he's doing a lot better than
now. And that's when we find

1131
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:23.520
out that Calhoun awoke him, feeding
him human remain and we strike, and

1132
01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:27.279
this is when we start to realize
that one of the big elements of what

1133
01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:30.039
Calhoun is doing is actually that he
doesn't want to be a low in his

1134
01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:35.239
pursuit of human flesh. He wants
to have cannibal buddies. And he sold

1135
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:42.079
Jeffrey Jones's character on the idea of
you and me are going to be cannibal

1136
01:14:42.119 --> 01:14:45.960
buddies. But of course Jeffrey Jones's
reaction is like, I like you,

1137
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:48.960
Boyd, Like I really I do
kill you. It's tough making friends as

1138
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:54.960
a cannibal, tough making friends as
a cannibals. But it's such a good

1139
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:59.680
line. But that also makes you
realize something again, which is Calhoun is

1140
01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:05.079
a particularly monstrous Wendy Go. Yeah, because even Jeffrey Jones, he's clearly

1141
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:11.319
perverted by the whole Because then in
the next scene they finish the stew with

1142
01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:15.239
Knox's body, Yeah, and they're
eating it and it's it's, you know,

1143
01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:19.119
a big stew with carrots and potatoes. Well before that, yeah,

1144
01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:24.840
he takes Boyd outside because that's when
they unveil the plan that because ives Calhoun

1145
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.600
unveils that, you know, this
Ford is gonna be is so busy in

1146
01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:30.039
spring and summer that we'll have people
come through. We're not gonna kill all

1147
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:33.239
of them, will kill selectively,
but you know, it's just gonna be

1148
01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:36.119
on the dinner table as soon as
the as soon as winter finishes. And

1149
01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:41.039
while he's doing this, he's hacking
up Knox's body. And it is a

1150
01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:43.399
great speech, thank you. I
didn't. I almost went right over it.

1151
01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:46.319
It's a great speech about manifest destiny
and all the gold hungry Americans that

1152
01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:49.960
have to pass right through here.
Yea, and so many of them you

1153
01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:54.199
never hear from again. Nope.
So and I do like how he's trying.

1154
01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:56.840
He's like, we will kill selectively. Yeah, we won't kill everybody.

1155
01:15:56.920 --> 01:15:59.680
No, no, no, we'll
kill very selectively. But it's like

1156
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:02.560
he's really trying to sell him on
this, like let's be Cannibal Bros.

1157
01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:05.800
Which, by the way, is
the name of your debut album, Thank

1158
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:13.359
You, coming out twenty twenty five
inner Scope Records. Jesus, do you

1159
01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:25.560
even movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do you even movie?

1160
01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:31.079
At this point too, he also
you know, tells Boyd the plan

1161
01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:33.920
and he's like, you know,
join us or die, and that's when

1162
01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:38.039
he stabs Boyd, basically gives him
a final death stab, and if he

1163
01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:40.800
doesn't do anything with these wounds,
they're gonna kill him. Yeah yeah.

1164
01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:43.600
Basically it's like that won't kill you. Oh yeah, he says that won't

1165
01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:46.399
kill you if you eat? Yeah, or was it if you take precautions?

1166
01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:48.720
So I think it was. It
was a line like that, but

1167
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:50.760
he was reference. He was saying, if you were human flash yeah.

1168
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:56.399
Yeah. Basically, now you have
no choice. Before you were slowly dying

1169
01:16:56.439 --> 01:17:00.239
of hunger. Now you are just
dying and the only way out is to

1170
01:17:00.359 --> 01:17:04.920
take a bite of stew. And
this scene is disgusting and upsetting, and

1171
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:08.119
it was one of the ones that
got to me a lot as a kid.

1172
01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:12.920
And as he's resisting and resisting,
and as Jeffrey Jones is eating and

1173
01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:15.039
being so happy that he's gonna feel
so much better, and Calhoun is just

1174
01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:18.039
a freaking nutter because Calhoun is a
nut job, Jeffrey Jones is the line,

1175
01:17:18.119 --> 01:17:23.520
isn't this nice three of them sitting? Yeah? No, it's it's

1176
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:30.479
it's the insanity is palpable. And
at that moment, after a lot of

1177
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:33.960
U we see that Boyd's wound is
just bleeding. No, he's gonna die,

1178
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:38.159
coughing up blood. And he's just
got this thing of stew in front

1179
01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:41.079
of him, and he gives in
and he just starts eating the stew,

1180
01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:44.239
and you know, he's gulping it
down. And then we cut to a

1181
01:17:44.319 --> 01:17:47.560
couple of days later. He's completely
fine. He's looking very well and and

1182
01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:54.760
and that's the moment when the movie
really became hard for a young Enriquet watching

1183
01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:59.159
in his little little living room and
I could see in suburban Ohio. So

1184
01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:02.039
we see Boyd watching i'ves and Heart
prepare for General Slawson's arrival because Martha's bringing

1185
01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:05.359
him back today. Heart visits Boyd
asking him if he's to be trusted,

1186
01:18:05.399 --> 01:18:08.520
because they need to set him free
so that they can, you know,

1187
01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:11.840
get Ives and everybody under control so
they can take the fort. And he

1188
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:14.439
goes, you know, can you
be trusted? And Boyd goes, of

1189
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:16.840
course not. So then we see
Boyd being led out and Ives is watching

1190
01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:20.479
from the watch tower for General Slowson's
wagon. Heart goes into his old office

1191
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:24.399
with Boyd, unlocks his cuff and
he comments on all his missing books and

1192
01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:27.840
how they all related to the same
thing you know of happiness and how to

1193
01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:32.039
achieve it. Yeah, to which
Boyd responds, Aristotle's search was for truth.

1194
01:18:32.119 --> 01:18:34.720
Yeah, which I just love that
line, Like for some reason,

1195
01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:39.960
he he knows it. Yeah,
it was Aristotle. He knows Aristotle because

1196
01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:42.359
he was like, because I got
confused, Reverson because they quote Nietsche at

1197
01:18:42.399 --> 01:18:45.319
the beginning. Yeah, yeah,
he's like, he's like Aristotle search for

1198
01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:47.439
truth. And this is also a
great scene too, to demonstrate the change

1199
01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:50.399
Jeffrey Jones character, because we talked
about in the beginning. He was eating

1200
01:18:50.439 --> 01:18:54.680
the walnuts and he was having trouble
crushing them so that he started using books

1201
01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:58.159
to do it. Now he just
crunched him with his hand. He's not

1202
01:18:58.319 --> 01:19:04.560
fisting them, David, crushing them
with his fists. Please no, David.

1203
01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:08.800
So he's crushing these walnuts. That
needs to be the first do you

1204
01:19:08.880 --> 01:19:15.279
even movie t shirt? Just Dave
fisting them. So he's crushing these walnuts,

1205
01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:17.039
and that's when he breaks down and
tells Boyd that this is not how

1206
01:19:17.119 --> 01:19:19.600
he wants to live. He does
not want to do this anymore. He's

1207
01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:23.680
already figured it out and didn't take
him long to realize he's not a monster.

1208
01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:26.720
He's not a monster. So he
freezes Boyd because Boyd says, you

1209
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:29.680
know, I'm gonna go kill Calhoun. So he freeze Boyd and he goes,

1210
01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:31.199
you know, boy to have one
more request, kill me. And

1211
01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:34.319
Boyd wastes no time walking up to
the window that he's looking out of.

1212
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:38.119
Right, his eyes is coming off
the watch tower, and he just slices

1213
01:19:38.239 --> 01:19:41.600
Jones's throat. Blood sprays on the
window. Calhoun walks up and sees this,

1214
01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:44.640
and you even see I love because
Jeffrey Jones gives him one last look

1215
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:46.800
that's like, you're not gonna win. Yeah no, And that's why I

1216
01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:49.159
love. One of the things I
love is that, like I don't know

1217
01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:56.359
if Jeffrey Jones the character, I
don't know if he really was on board

1218
01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:59.760
at first and then realize the reality, or if he always just wanted to

1219
01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:03.199
have an upper hand on Calhoun.
I don't think he was just lonely,

1220
01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:06.039
because I mean, that's that is
one of the the biggest things that he

1221
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:09.199
throws in the mood in the first
part of the movie is just you know,

1222
01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:11.880
this is a place where not a
lot of people come. We make

1223
01:20:11.920 --> 01:20:14.279
our own company here. It's good
to have company. Well, when he

1224
01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:15.800
says, like you search for truth, he's like, well, my I

1225
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:19.399
did everything right searching for truth and
I ended up here, yeah, which

1226
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:24.159
is a really fair point. Yeah
yeah. So now it is the final

1227
01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:28.000
battle as Ives catches Boyd in the
powler unsheathing one of the sabers, and

1228
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:30.760
the two go into a vicious battle. They cut each other a little bit,

1229
01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:35.000
and then Ives Calhoun disappears outside and
Boyd is looking for him. Suddenly

1230
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:38.159
a bell rings, which takes him
over to the barn. So he goes

1231
01:20:38.199 --> 01:20:41.680
into the barn and that's when there's
just stabbing implements galore all over the place.

1232
01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:45.640
We're not going to be able to
describe this fight properly. Calhoun drops

1233
01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:47.159
from the ceiling at one point and
they get into a huge fight. So

1234
01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:50.880
he picks up a pitchfork and he
jabs Calhoun in the side, and then

1235
01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:54.159
he tries to get him in the
face and he holds it off, and

1236
01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:56.560
that's when they just start throwing each
other all over the room, stabbing,

1237
01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:00.279
cutting, stabbing, cutting, stabbing, and it finally gets to one point

1238
01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:04.000
where Boyd draws him over to one
section of the barn which he has the

1239
01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:06.800
roof collapse on, so he's buried
him and he wanders off, and then

1240
01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:11.000
he calls him over one more time
and they go into this other section of

1241
01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:14.399
the barn. They're throwing each other
against the wall and Calhoun gets thrown into

1242
01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:17.079
one part of this room where boy
draws him into and that's when he lands

1243
01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:21.479
onto a bear trap that he activates
on both of them. They land together.

1244
01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:26.640
Yes, they're gripping each other.
He drops him onto this gargantuan grizzly

1245
01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:29.800
bear trap and remember grizzlies are out
that way. Yeah, so they'd have

1246
01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:32.119
the biggest bear traps in the world. And when he falls on it together,

1247
01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:35.000
he just starts hitting it and hitting
it to make it snap, and

1248
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:40.159
it snaps on both of them,
both of them. What I'm ending to

1249
01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:46.159
the fight And as they are dying, as they are suffering and choking blood,

1250
01:21:47.239 --> 01:21:53.800
Calhoun immediately goes if you die first, eating you and he's like,

1251
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:58.199
but the question is if I die, what are you gonna do? Yeah?

1252
01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:00.039
What are you gonna do? And
that's when and at that moment you

1253
01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:05.720
hope as the audience that Boyd will
die and let the Wendy go die.

1254
01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:11.680
Yeah, but there's a little poisoned
pill in the in this in this uh

1255
01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:15.000
mess. By this point, General
Slawson and Martha have returned to the fort

1256
01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:16.840
and they can't find anybody, of
course, so they're searching around and Slosson

1257
01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:20.800
just happens to notice the pots on
the stove and goes over and just starts

1258
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:24.760
taking a couple of SIPs out of
it and really really likes that soup.

1259
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:31.359
Yeah, and it's probably still unox
yes, maybe even somebody oh and probably

1260
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:34.720
leaves. Yeah. Point where we
were watching it when he was stirring,

1261
01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:38.119
you see like a big rib bone, and you were like, man,

1262
01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:39.920
look at that ribbone. And I
was like, David, that's how you

1263
01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:42.119
make broth. Oh, I know, bone broth. It was just making

1264
01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:44.960
It was just funny though, David, That's how you make a soup.

1265
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:48.199
And then I was like, so
in his dying breath, uh, Calhoun

1266
01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:53.079
is going live or die, Live
or die. And then suddenly he gets

1267
01:22:53.119 --> 01:22:57.880
to that last one and goes just
at this point, Martha peeks into the

1268
01:22:57.920 --> 01:23:01.319
barn, sees both Boyd and Calhoon
have passed, closes the barn, and

1269
01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:05.520
just quietly backs away outside of the
forts. And that my friends, Yeah,

1270
01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:09.880
she leaves, she's done some ditches, and that, my friends,

1271
01:23:10.039 --> 01:23:15.000
is nineteen ninety nine's ravenous. A
phenomenal film worth re visiting, especially in

1272
01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:19.640
the cold, hungry winter months.
Yes, when you find yourself only with

1273
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:23.920
a can of spam and the Blu
ray player, this is what you should

1274
01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:28.560
have brought to your cabin. Uh. You know, I mean maybe I

1275
01:23:29.279 --> 01:23:31.159
wish there there are some good ones
out there, but I wish there were

1276
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:35.960
more really good Wendygo movies. Yeah, there are a couple really good.

1277
01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:40.039
I liked it, but I wish
there was one that was a little more

1278
01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:45.520
like what was that one we saw
Antlers? Antler's was pretty good. Yeah,

1279
01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:49.760
I want one that's I want one
that's like Balls to the Walls but

1280
01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:57.079
but subtle enough to be scary.
Yeah. So not Frostbier, although Frost

1281
01:23:57.119 --> 01:24:01.439
Fighter is FUNILM podcast. I mean, if I wish there were enough Wendy

1282
01:24:01.479 --> 01:24:04.319
Goo films to talk about, I
would do Wendy Go Wednesday. You know,

1283
01:24:04.920 --> 01:24:09.760
we do Wendy Go Week but no. I but I enjoyed this one.

1284
01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:14.119
I think that the Wendy Go references
are It's subtle, it's minor.

1285
01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:17.119
It's not like this is a movie
about algonquin folklore or something, And I

1286
01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:23.159
really I love this movie. I
love the style, but I really love

1287
01:24:24.520 --> 01:24:29.800
that the characters got to have a
choice. Yeah, and that's when you

1288
01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:35.560
realize that the Wendigo only opens the
door to being a monster. Yeah,

1289
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:42.479
but if you are a monster,
you'll run fast as you can. Let

1290
01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:45.159
alone the fact that he sought it
out, but just the fact that he

1291
01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:49.399
was running to it. Jeffrey Jones's
character thought he wanted it. When he

1292
01:24:49.479 --> 01:24:54.680
saw the reality, he didn't want
it. Boyd thought in one moment of

1293
01:24:54.760 --> 01:24:59.479
desperation he wanted it, and never
took that desperation, never let the desperation

1294
01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:01.760
bring in there again. No,
because as he you know, he drank

1295
01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:04.960
the soup. He only did that
so he could stop till again. Yeah.

1296
01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:10.439
No, he was only alive for
one purpose purpose and that was to

1297
01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:15.119
stop them from killing the innocent people
passing through that fort. Which brings him

1298
01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:17.880
full circle because then he didn't take
He wasn't a coward because he could have

1299
01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:21.119
died. And that's what I also
love another great point the opening of him

1300
01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:25.239
being a coward and he wins,
but in this sense, he's not a

1301
01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:29.239
coward, and he wins. Yeah. Originally he sneaks up on the enemy

1302
01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:30.800
because they would never expect him to
pop up from pile of dead body.

1303
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:33.720
Yeah, stab someone and then gets
ready to shoot somebody. So he takes

1304
01:25:33.760 --> 01:25:39.039
it from the this was the Spanish
or the Mexican American war wary. But

1305
01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:44.239
this time around he faces it head
on. Yeah, he sacrifices a lot,

1306
01:25:44.479 --> 01:25:46.520
including his own life, but not
just his own life, but kind

1307
01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:49.960
of away his soul and his reputation
because he's gonna be blamed for these murders.

1308
01:25:49.960 --> 01:25:53.119
There's no way he's not going to
be. I don't know if anybody

1309
01:25:53.119 --> 01:25:56.159
will be able figure out what the
hell happened. And I mean because just

1310
01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:59.399
explaining Jeffrey Jones's character still being alive
would be a little hard, that is

1311
01:25:59.439 --> 01:26:00.840
true. I mean, who cares
about his reputation? My point is that

1312
01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:05.279
like his soul metaphorically, because he
had to eat the flesh twice. Yeah,

1313
01:26:06.119 --> 01:26:10.319
but he did it for a good
good yeah, good cause. So

1314
01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:13.239
I agree, not be so.
My point is I agree and wholeheartedly the

1315
01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:15.760
idea of him being a coward at
the beginning, yea, And by the

1316
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:17.720
end of this he's kind of the
biggest hero there is. Yeah, I

1317
01:26:17.840 --> 01:26:23.359
love I really love how it comes
full circle. Ravenous is is a really

1318
01:26:23.479 --> 01:26:27.239
fun one, it is. And
so considering how phenomenal the movie is,

1319
01:26:27.319 --> 01:26:30.520
I mean, it must have just
lines around the block in the theaters.

1320
01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:33.600
Right. So it opened on March
nineteenth of nineteen nighty nine at eighteenth in

1321
01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:41.960
the box office, grossing over just
seen eighteenth, grossing over just two million

1322
01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:46.520
dollars against it's twelve million dollar budget. Friends, that doesn't mean two million

1323
01:26:46.560 --> 01:26:50.600
dollars that weeken, No, he
means two million dollars. Looks entire theatrical

1324
01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:56.439
run yep. And it was also
it was like a Fox two thousand movie,

1325
01:26:56.640 --> 01:27:00.640
which which listen, whether it's movies
or pro wrestling, if you add

1326
01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:05.800
two thousand or new to an old
name, everybody knows it ain't gonna work.

1327
01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:09.399
No, it's gonna be it's gonna
go poorly. And I think that

1328
01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:13.319
this was Fox kind of dipping their
toes in a different kind of concept because

1329
01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:16.319
they would always do that Fox Searchlight. They had all these different different concepts

1330
01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:20.720
and labels and stuff like that.
But this I I can only guess,

1331
01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:26.680
based on looking at the original poster
that they had no clue what they had.

1332
01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:29.319
They had no idea how to market
it, yet for some reason they

1333
01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:31.920
felt fine spending twelve million dollars on
it. And that's the thing that blows

1334
01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:35.479
my mind is it's like you spent
twelve million on it, which means logic

1335
01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:41.359
dictates you probably spent ten million marketing
it. That was the best you could

1336
01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:44.399
come up with. Yeah, but
uh, and you said it came out

1337
01:27:44.399 --> 01:27:46.399
in March, March, March nineteenth
of nineteen eight Aine, So it wasn't

1338
01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:49.720
even dumped in genuine not dump dumped, was not dumped. I mean it's

1339
01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:53.359
dumped a little for not being out
in the summer. But still, yeah,

1340
01:27:53.439 --> 01:27:56.399
that's that's that's a shame, that
really is. Would you like to

1341
01:27:56.479 --> 01:27:59.159
know some more fun facts? I
don't think they're gonna be fun, They're

1342
01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:03.119
going ahead, Wait, David,
don't call them fun facts, call them

1343
01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:09.560
tasty tidbit tasty tidbits. Yeah we
go. So this was John Spencer's last

1344
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:13.439
film. He played General Slows in
between its release. He died of a

1345
01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:16.199
heart attack in December of a December
Fifth of Night. Yes, super fun

1346
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:19.960
facts that shut up. It takes
twenty five minutes for Boyd to utter his

1347
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:24.000
first sentence in the film, because
that's when he's talked to Jones. Yeah,

1348
01:28:24.039 --> 01:28:27.279
that's true. Very loosely inspired by
the Donner Party of eighteen forty seven.

1349
01:28:27.359 --> 01:28:30.720
Even though the ives backstory is very
similar to Alfred Packer, it is

1350
01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:32.920
kind of similar to Alfred Packer.
Yeah, the original ending was supposed to

1351
01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:36.199
take place on the roof of burning
cabins, but it was scrapped as Pearson

1352
01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:39.680
Carlisle figured out at this point,
they just wanted to beat the hell out

1353
01:28:39.680 --> 01:28:42.560
of each other in the story.
Okay, that's fair enough. Yeah,

1354
01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:46.479
I can see that. I mean
it is like it is like this movie

1355
01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:51.800
is like the fight version of like
a romantic comedy, just cock teasing you

1356
01:28:53.039 --> 01:28:56.600
all the way through the film,
Like the entire movie, you're just waiting

1357
01:28:56.640 --> 01:28:59.560
for them to finally show down,
because remember the first time they have their

1358
01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:03.279
showdown, he jumps and runs.
Yes, and that showdown production ran out

1359
01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:09.000
of fake blood. Oh my god, I believe that. So Guy Piers,

1360
01:29:09.039 --> 01:29:11.960
a well known vegan, had to
do several takes of him eating the

1361
01:29:12.039 --> 01:29:15.199
lamb stew, which was prepared by
set caterer's very delicioustew. From what Robert

1362
01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:17.880
Carlisle said, so he would take
a bite and then immediately spit it out

1363
01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:23.479
when Antonio Bird called cut. I
mean, that's not that uncommon on movies

1364
01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:27.479
anyway, because people don't You have
no idea how many takes you have to

1365
01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:29.880
do on some of these movies.
People eating food and movies is crazy.

1366
01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:33.199
So often they're just spitting food out
a take after take, especially actresses,

1367
01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:36.359
because they're watching what they eat very
closely. So, I mean that's not

1368
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:40.000
shocking to me. But I am
surprised he was a vegan in nineteen ninety

1369
01:29:40.079 --> 01:29:42.520
nine. There weren't that many vegans
yet, not yet. No. Yeah,

1370
01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:45.960
So the final thought for Ravenous,
I am gonna give this a rent.

1371
01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:48.119
It This is a very entertaining horror
film. May not be for everybody

1372
01:29:48.119 --> 01:29:51.239
because of the cannibal aspects to it. I mean it's a bleak film with

1373
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:55.760
a lot of dark humor too.
It's not a family meal now necessarily,

1374
01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:58.920
But to me, this is a
great adventure horror with beautiful scenery, fun

1375
01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:00.640
characters, and no every one's safe
in this movie, which builds up the

1376
01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:03.520
tension even more. Yeah. It
keeps you guessing massively. Yeah, and

1377
01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:08.000
isolation aspect drives it forward. Because
you're isolated with a monster, you know,

1378
01:30:08.199 --> 01:30:10.880
and they know that you know.
And this is just an underrated late

1379
01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:13.159
nineties gem Toman. But do you
know that they know that? You know?

1380
01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:15.640
Oh, they know that. I
know that you know. So you

1381
01:30:15.720 --> 01:30:18.479
know how we always like to end
the show with a recommendation. I've got

1382
01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:23.319
two this time around. Okay,
I went with horror westerns and obvious one

1383
01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:27.560
first, twenty fifteen's Bone Tomahawk.
Okay, I could see that in the

1384
01:30:27.640 --> 01:30:30.359
dying days of the Old West,
and elderly sheriff and his posse set out

1385
01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:32.840
to rescue their town's doctor from a
cannibalist at cave dwellers. This is a

1386
01:30:33.159 --> 01:30:38.439
very good movie, but it's a
slow burn, and it is very gruesome,

1387
01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:42.439
extremely gruesome. Yeah, you earn
the pain that that movie leaves you

1388
01:30:42.560 --> 01:30:45.199
in. Yeah. And the other
one I'm gonna give is one I'm dying

1389
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:46.399
to show you and we need to
do it sometime soon. Curse of the

1390
01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:50.399
Undead from nineteen fifty nine. This
is a black and white horror western.

1391
01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:54.960
It says, while Meladi is claiming
the lives of young women in western town,

1392
01:30:55.039 --> 01:30:58.159
a sinister gunslinger for hire, Drake
Roby, is really a vampire and

1393
01:30:58.199 --> 01:31:01.239
it's up to Preacher Dan to save
his town and his girlfriend. I would

1394
01:31:01.279 --> 01:31:04.920
like to watch it. It's fantastic. It was one I discovered from letterbox.

1395
01:31:05.079 --> 01:31:08.199
I saw a couple of review it
and that's how I found out about

1396
01:31:08.199 --> 01:31:11.039
a couple of years ago, got
a Keyno Blue ray and it is phenomenal.

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01:31:11.159 --> 01:31:13.720
Well, I'm about to blow your
mind with my recommendation. Go ahead,

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01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:15.000
No, you're not gonna guess them. You're never gonna guess these.

1399
01:31:15.039 --> 01:31:20.279
Okay, so number one, I'm
gonna go horror Western. Five Bloody Graves

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01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:25.880
by al Adamson. Good call.
I really like Five Bloody Graves is cheesy

1401
01:31:25.920 --> 01:31:29.039
as hell. Al Adamson's movies are
not high quality, but they are a

1402
01:31:29.159 --> 01:31:33.079
lot of fun. It is a
nasty, brutal little Western and it is

1403
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:39.560
it's charming in its way. And
then my other recommendation, and I really

1404
01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:43.159
debated this, and that's why I
know Dave's going to be like, what

1405
01:31:43.520 --> 01:31:50.359
the fuck? But bones and all. That's a good call because both of

1406
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:56.399
it all made me queasy with the
cannibalism. Although the romantic element is is

1407
01:31:56.479 --> 01:31:59.640
you know, whatever however you feel
about it. I liked it. I

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01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:01.439
liked it, so Bones and All
is one that I think would be a

1409
01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:05.079
really good pairing with this. It's
a lot more highbrow, and literally I

1410
01:32:05.159 --> 01:32:09.840
couldn't have gone more lowbrow and then
highbrow with my recommendations. But I think

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01:32:09.880 --> 01:32:14.720
if you want a movie about cannibalism, and especially about cannibalism as a metaphor

1412
01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:19.720
for a desire to consume and a
desire to take and to give and all

1413
01:32:19.800 --> 01:32:24.439
of that, that movie I think
Ravenous makes some really great points, and

1414
01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:27.239
I think that Bones and All makes
a really great point. So my recommendation

1415
01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:31.840
is the artsy fartsy Bones and All. I really, I really stand by

1416
01:32:31.840 --> 01:32:35.560
that time. I enjoyed it fine. I don't know if i'd i'd watch

1417
01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:41.239
it one time. So that all
being said, I call it a rent

1418
01:32:41.319 --> 01:32:43.520
it. Rent it for me too, Yeah, I think that. I

1419
01:32:43.600 --> 01:32:47.359
mean, if you're a horror nut, if you're a nineties movie lover,

1420
01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:51.479
because it's a two thousand move,
it's really nineties movie. If you're a

1421
01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:57.439
person who loves unsettling movies, then
it's definitely for your collection. But as

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01:32:57.439 --> 01:33:01.520
a as a common moviegoer, this
is definitely an excellent curiosity to watch.

1423
01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:04.479
And give a give a fair shake
too, And it's uh, you know,

1424
01:33:04.680 --> 01:33:08.079
we can't say this now because you've
listened to the show, but if

1425
01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:10.960
you can go in as blind as
possible, that will be the best time

1426
01:33:11.039 --> 01:33:13.319
you have with it. Yeah.
And usually people have seen the movie or

1427
01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:15.359
maybe they have it. But you
know what, I found that a lot

1428
01:33:15.399 --> 01:33:17.880
of people value spoilers way less than
we do. Yeah, I have really

1429
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.640
noticed that. Did you know that
they did that whole study about trailers.

1430
01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:23.720
People were like, why are the
people the best of a trailers? Are

1431
01:33:23.720 --> 01:33:27.319
like, well, because when they
show they show people trailers and then show

1432
01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:30.000
them the movie, they respond most
positively to what they saw in the trailer

1433
01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:32.600
being in the movie. Yeah.
And when I heard that, I was

1434
01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:36.600
like, uh, because I you
know me, Like, You'll be like,

1435
01:33:36.680 --> 01:33:39.319
bro, did you see the trailer
for blank movie? And I'll be

1436
01:33:39.319 --> 01:33:41.199
like, Dave, I already said
I'd go see it. Yeah, that's

1437
01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:43.960
my I'll literally be like, I
don't care, I'm already I don't send

1438
01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:46.359
you trailers anymore because either you a
won't watch them or b will just catch

1439
01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:48.960
them in the theater. Most of
the time, I mean, occasionally,

1440
01:33:49.039 --> 01:33:53.319
if there's something crazy we've been waiting
for. But if it's just like some

1441
01:33:53.520 --> 01:33:55.640
movie we heard about and we already
said, like, we're gonna go see

1442
01:33:55.680 --> 01:33:58.279
it, yeah, I'll be like
I might watch the trailer, I don't

1443
01:33:58.279 --> 01:34:00.000
care. I have already I'm already
gonna see it no matter what the trailer

1444
01:34:00.039 --> 01:34:01.880
is. Well, I mean it
brings a good point too that how many

1445
01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:03.880
times have we seen trailers for movies
and we're just like, oh, that

1446
01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:06.199
looks like crap. We go and
see the movie and the trailer did it

1447
01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:10.319
the worst than justice possible. I
mean, Taken is a great example of

1448
01:34:10.319 --> 01:34:13.760
that. Taken had the crappiest marketing
ever. I'm so glad the movie caught

1449
01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:16.880
on anyway. Yeah, so ravenous, my friends. If you need something

1450
01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:20.399
to chew on, yes, God, there are never enough canniba and to

1451
01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:24.479
warm you up and just get you
know, all the good feelies of the

1452
01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:27.279
winter and have you know a big
bull of stew that's the way to do

1453
01:34:27.359 --> 01:34:30.000
it, you worry me? Yeah, I should, all right, So

1454
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:32.960
before we get out of here,
Before we get out of here again,

1455
01:34:33.359 --> 01:34:38.159
huge thank you to everybody for your
comments on social media, on YouTube,

1456
01:34:38.279 --> 01:34:43.399
on Instagram and everything about my buddy
chicano I really appreciate it. It's still

1457
01:34:43.439 --> 01:34:45.079
pretty fresh as we're recording this.
It's only been a week. Yeah,

1458
01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:49.960
and my head is still spinning.
Big love to Dave. Last week when

1459
01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:53.760
that all had happened, he was
like, hey, man, I understand

1460
01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:55.760
you want to do the show or
whatever. And I was like, yeah,

1461
01:34:55.840 --> 01:34:59.199
you're like, but if you want, I'll come over. And we

1462
01:34:59.359 --> 01:35:01.880
came over and we went and saw
a movie and just hung out for a

1463
01:35:01.960 --> 01:35:05.960
minute, and I was a fucking
wreck. So just thank you, man.

1464
01:35:06.840 --> 01:35:13.199
I appreciated a whole hell of a
lot. Also, if you're watching

1465
01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:16.840
this on YouTube, please make sure
you're subscribed and like and comment. I

1466
01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:20.960
know it's so annoying, but if
you're a friend of mine, if you're

1467
01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:24.279
a friend of Dave, if you're
a friend of the show or whatever,

1468
01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:27.960
you what have you, If you
leave a like and you leave a comment,

1469
01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:30.479
it'll make our video more discoverable.
And I know it's like it's full

1470
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:33.800
the algorithm. Welcome to the world
we're in. Yeah, and share it

1471
01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:38.439
with a movie loving friend if you
love it. And also Dave's been telling

1472
01:35:38.479 --> 01:35:44.760
me we've had some interesting development over
on TikTok and TikTok, Patty Whack,

1473
01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:48.359
give it all about But yeah,
and if you want to get a hold

1474
01:35:48.359 --> 01:35:50.279
of us, if you want to
recommend a movie. We have a lot

1475
01:35:50.319 --> 01:35:54.199
of movies on the dockets, but
there are fifty two weeks in a year,

1476
01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:58.159
which means we're going to be reviewing
at least roughly fifty two movies in

1477
01:35:58.199 --> 01:36:00.880
a year. It may be more, it may be less, it depends.

1478
01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:04.600
We're open to suggestions. We're also
open to things where it's not solely

1479
01:36:04.720 --> 01:36:09.880
one film. We're open to versus
potentially, we're open to series reviews.

1480
01:36:10.319 --> 01:36:14.359
We're really just kind of still figuring
out what all we want to do on

1481
01:36:14.439 --> 01:36:15.319
the show. But at the end
of the day, it's really whatever we

1482
01:36:15.359 --> 01:36:17.319
want. Yeah, it was the
best part. We bullshit. Well,

1483
01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:20.399
give us a topic and we can
do it. And if you finally,

1484
01:36:20.520 --> 01:36:24.600
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1485
01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:28.199
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1486
01:36:28.439 --> 01:36:32.640
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1487
01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:38.720
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1488
01:36:38.760 --> 01:36:44.079
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1489
01:36:44.119 --> 01:36:46.199
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1490
01:36:46.319 --> 01:36:51.479
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1491
01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:56.079
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1492
01:36:56.239 --> 01:36:58.760
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1493
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1494
01:37:00.119 --> 01:37:04.000
Instagram and exit those as well.
Like Enrique said, we've got a great

1495
01:37:04.279 --> 01:37:08.479
collection Eclipse on there right now,
but we will always put some more up

1496
01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:11.479
for you. If you got some
influence or some ideas for us, yeah,

1497
01:37:11.520 --> 01:37:14.359
we'll try at least. So until
next time, guys, We'll see

1498
01:37:14.399 --> 01:37:18.439
you next Tuesday on every Time on
Do You Well? It's true, I

1499
01:37:18.520 --> 01:37:21.000
know it is, on Do You
Even Movie. We'll see you bye,