Do You Even Movie? | My Bloody Valentine (1981)

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In this town on Valentine's Day,
everybody loses their heart. It looks like

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Harry Warden's back in town. In
the town of Valentine Bluffs, there are

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many ways to die. Take your
pick, my bloody Valentine. In a

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world where podcasts reign supreme, two
friends dare to ask Do You Even?

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Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto
and movie aficionado David Denyer. Spoiler alert,

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Well, hello and a happy,
lovely love day. Yes, yes,

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Valentine's Day is tomorrow, baby.
Most likely it could be We're all

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living in a time that is either
pre Valentine's Day or post Valentine's Day.

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So welcome to a very special love
themed episode of Do You Even? Movie.

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I'm your host Enrique Kuto here with
my good buddy and co host Double

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D. David L. Denoyer is
the l for blocked on LinkedIn. Ah

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man, I've been holding back jokes
like that about you. Dave once heard

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a girl's feelings so much she blocked
him on LinkedIn. All right, that's

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the TLDR for people haven't seen this
second love episode. But yeah, so

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tonight we are talking about the immortal
classic in the realm of horror Valentine's Day

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movies, which aren't a lot of
a lot. We've seen them all,

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I think at this point, I
mean, well, that's not saying much.

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Valentine technically hospital masker, a GA
X ray technically technically, yeah,

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I think that's it. In the
remake, you would think Valentine's Day would

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be a more fertile ground, not
just for horror movies movies in general,

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but with how much people love romances
and stuff. There actually aren't a ton

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of Valentine's Days, not really.
I mean, I know for a fact

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that because we've talked about it,
that you haven't seen Gary Marshall's Valentine's Day

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that came out in like the early
aughts. I want to say, I

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don't think so fantastic movie. I
really like it. It's kind of it's

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kind of it's a little cheesy because
it's it's all the multiple stories. I

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know, crazy Valentine's Day movie.
Hold on, let's just uh watch out,

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guys. It's a hot take.
But for the record, you're casting

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is like Ashton Kutcher, George Lopez, Gary Marshall's in At one point,

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you also have to for Grace and
and Hathaway, I mean the David obviously

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you had me at George Lopez and
Corey's. You got the two tailors of

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course. Well, I mean,
why wouldn't they be. But yeah,

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so we're going to be diving deep
into the mind and we were talking a

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little bit about that before we started
the show because my people, well my

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mother's side, they're all from Kentucky
and I know your people are actually ironically

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more of the Canadian side of the
border, which is tragic, but well,

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I'll allow it. But my family
had a long line of miners,

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of people who worked in the coal
mines. And this is going to blow

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people's minds, but being a coal
miner is actually a really unpleasant and dangerous

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job. And that's what led my
mother's family to Ohio, was escaping the

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mines. They were like no more
of this. So much so that there's

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a saying. There's a phrase for
people like my mother's family. They're called

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briar hoppers. Okay, so,
which is pejorative. Don't as my sweet

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ant Betty used to always say,
you never call a briar hopper a briar

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hopper unless you're a briar hopper.
Betty used said all the time, but

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I didn't realize. I always thought
that when I would hear people say briar

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hopper at family functions and stuff,
I always thought that it was a because

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of context, because nobody sat down
and went, now, now, little

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Rick, here's how that works,
because they will call me Rick because that

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was not the Hispanic side. Yeah, but I always thought from context that

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it was a term for people from
Kentucky because I would always hear the people

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saying briar hopper. Briar hopper were
like my aunt Betty from Hazzard, Kentucky.

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My mama was born in Hazzard,
but she left at very young age.

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Most of that family was from Hazzard, Kentucky, which what a name.

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Yeah, but it was because they
I don't remember the exact number,

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but they got tired of the amount
of men and their family who died in

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the mines. I could see that, so briar hopper. When I googled

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it a couple months ago, it
turns out this is gonna blow your mind.

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It literally means people from Kentucky who
worked in the mines who came to

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southwestern Ohio for a different life.
Wow, it literally is my family on

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my mother side, like like not
even like a little bit. That's literally

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what they were. That's nuts.
The idea being that they jump over the

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briar patch in Kentucky and came into
Ohio's. So my family literally they're all

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a bunch of briar hoppers. And
I can say that, yes, yeah,

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probably, and you can send your
hate mail you know where to go.

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But so that being said, there
were a lot of like stories of

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loved ones working in the mines and
and and actually my aunt Betty's father was

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a cold deliverer. He would walk
around with a cold cart and you would

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order coal and he'd come and bring
it to your house. Crazy, So

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there's a lot of mining in that. And then of course I my contribution

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is I'm a big fan of Enemy
Mine, Yes, yes, which I

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really am, which I recommended on
our Grumpy Old Men episode and will never

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be forgiven for a pair. That
was the weirdest choice. But it felt

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it felt right. It did it
to me? Did it to me?

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It felt right? Okay, fine, Well, before we jump in,

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I wanted to ask you, Dave, yes sir, much to my fear,

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after asking you a question about your
personal life last time Valentine's Day?

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Huh, how do you feel about
Valentine's Day personally? Like did you have

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like were you like the cock of
the walk in high school or in middle

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school or on Valentine'sday? Or were
you the kid who, like you,

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didn't get a card except from the
girl with a lazy eye? I was.

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I was. I was a bit
anti Valentine's Day for first, Oh,

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you were an edge lord. I
was a bit anti Valentine. Oh

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it wasn't, honestly. Oh man, It probably wasn't until my ties that

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I really got more accepting of it. And that's so pathetic. I was

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taught to love myself basically, is
what it was like the day in the

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show, only in the shower,
only in the shower the day. The

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day became what I made of it. So and I think, actually you

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you may have been one of the
people that kind of inspired me to do

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it, but like it. It
became a day where I would just like

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after work, I would usually just
go get like a bottle of wine,

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some sushi and go home and just
watch movies. What you mean is you

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were single? I was single?
Yes for the most part. Yes.

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Wait and I how did I inspire
that I really want to understand that.

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It was probably one of those you
know, Dave's bitching texts and you know,

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and I was probably like, I, this is how often in our

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friendship you'll just say something like sounds
like you're the problem, just fucking do

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something nice. Yeah, yeah,
I am that friend. No, you

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are. The irony of me making
fun of you is that I was extremely

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anti Valentine's Day until almost my thirties. That makes sense. So uh,

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now that doesn't mean I did and
like stomp my heels about it and stuff.

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But I would say, generally speaking, I haven't had a life that

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has lacked female companionship. I suppose
that's not a brag. It's just like

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whatever. So I would generally be
like, eh, I'm supposed to like,

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I'm supposed to love you every day, so why am I gonna love

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you more today? And then I
learned that and this has become an element

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of every part of my life that
you should just freaking celebrate every opportunity you

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get, because if you if you
don't celebrate things because you're too busy being

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cynical, or you're like, well, maybe this isn't worth celebrating or maybe

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this isn't a big enough deal to
celebrate. Then one day you're gonna wake

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up and realize you never celebrate it
at all. So and I live that,

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and I still struggle with it.
Like my humidor is full of special

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occasion cigars, and literally there will
be days where it'll be like it'll be

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like a Wednesday night, I'll be
home alone, you know, and I'll

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put on a movie. I'll be
like, dinner was good. I'm going

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to have one of the fancy cigars
because I have like fifteen or twenty special

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occasion cigars. Yeah, and so
it's like I gotta you know, it's

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like that meme that was going around
that was like, you know, wear

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that fancy dress, drink that ballo
bottle of wine because you may never you

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may never get a chance. Yeah, And I do believe that. I

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really do believe that any excuse to
celebrate is a good reason. But I

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also understand that, you know,
Valentine's Day is also kind of national rub

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singleness in your face day. Yeah, it absolutely can be. And I

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mean, and that's kind of where
I started just looking at it, where

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it was just like, Okay,
it's it's essentially just another day. I

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feel like even when you had girlfriends, like back in those that time period,

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yeah, you always managed to be
single at Valentine's Day regardless. It's

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just never I didn't have very long
lasting relationships. Was that point? But

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was it because winter made you have
to be hear each other, like,

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you know, huddling for warmth.
They were like, oh, I'm gidding,

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why me audio snow? But no, I don't even know the answer.

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No, because you want to break
up before Christmas to save money.

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I'm pressent. What do you know? Oh god, I am the style

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guide of this program. You just
reminded me. Oh no, so we'll

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do another bad We'll do a bad
day story. Okay, but I have

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to buy law play this, please
no, David. So, the year

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is probably twenty twelve. I'm in
college and my girlfriend at the time we

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I've told you this story many times. I'm sure you have told you this

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bit of the story. The problem
is when you say, like, I'm

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gonna tell a sad story I've told
you before, I'm like, I'm sure

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you have, but go on.
Please. My current girlfriend at the time,

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I had never seen die Hard and
it was getting to be Christmas time,

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and I was like getting really excited
to show her die Hard and she

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jokingly said, you know, well, what's going to happen if I don't

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like it? And I jokingly said
back, well, we'll probably break up,

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not not intending for that to happen, not intending for that to be

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what happened. So the day comes, we watched die Hard and at the

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end of it, she's like,
yeah, that was fine. Like I

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didn't I didn't dislike it, but
like it's it's fine, Like it's just

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another action movie. And like I
was already having some issues with this person,

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unfortunately, and it just kind of
got to a point in that night

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where it wasn't even die Hard,
but like what happened was we we did

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end up breaking up, but to
make matters worse. And this is the

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part of the story I never told
you, so oh oh boy. I

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had gone Christmas shopping and the presence
were in my closet and it just all

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beit all over all over the entire
studio. That's number one. But number

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two, were they Christmas shoes?
No, they're okay, okay, they're

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not Christmas shoes. If I remember
correctly, One of them was a DVD

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of Hunger Games, and I think
the other was like either a booker or

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it was either a booker a video
game. I can't remember. But anyway,

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in David's stupid moment, it was
like, you know, we're we're

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we're doing the crying breaking up part
and I'm and I'm like, well,

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wait, just one more thing before
you go, and I was just like,

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I want you to have these,
So I gave breakup gifts like you

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were just like, remember every contestant
on David Denuter's Relationships gets turtlez and a

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copy of the Hunger Games Hunger Games. But at his job at FYE at

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the time, Oh well you're already
winning dating. Yeah, I'm all employees.

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So yeah, I unfortunately once in
my life gave breakup gifts, as

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I look at it now, because
they were Christmas gifts, but we were

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breaking up, and I was just
like, I want you to have these.

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And now that I look back on
that, I'm like, that wasn't

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a It wasn't my brightest moment.
Hey Survey says on Dave giving parting gifts,

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all right, I mean it could
be worse. It would be worse'll

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be dating or STDs. Well,
I wasn't gonna wow. Well, so

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I would just like to clarify it
please. We are recording this at midnight.

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We record in after midnight, the
day that we have been to the

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movie theater. We just watched the
movie that we're going to be discussing here

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shortly, and it is midnight as
we record this right now. Well,

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I am in good spirits. I
should have checked your coffee when you showed

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made sure it wasn't a little irish. But so tonight we have a film,

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and like we mentioned, it is
a slasher, but but more Canadians,

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so it's more like canty, Hey
can't can't poo teine poutine. But

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it's My Bloody Valentine, Yes,
sir, and uh, this is a

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film that I will be honest,
I've had to warm up to. Okay.

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It was not a top of the
level favorite when I first saw it

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as a teenager. It was kind
of like, you know, it's weird.

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It's fun see how you remember things
that you'd paired together. I think

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the first time I saw My Bloody
Valentine that same night I watched the initiation

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that movie in the in the mall, and I just remembered when I was

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done watching Initiation, I was like, why didn'ybody talk about this movie?

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This is so much better? And
then and then you know, we watched

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Initiation about what was it like six
years ago when I got that blue ray

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and we're like, it's it's okay, it's fine. But but so I

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will say that as I've revisited My
Bloody Valentine almost exclusively because you want to

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revisit it, yeah, which is
nothing wrong with that around generally around Valentine's

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Day when you're when you're single,
Yes, which I'm not right now,

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but okay, well, you know, if you want to cover all bases,

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just say, hey, honey,
that way no matter what, you're

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good. But do You Even movie
will be right back, welcome back to

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Do You Even movie? My Bloody
Valentine's definitely grown on me, and this

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last viewing that we just did kind
of made me appreciate it even more.

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Yeah, I think that it's a
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which is interesting because it's straight up
a Friday the thirteenth rip afs.

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I mean, well, I mean
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that's why they bought it and maybe
financed it. But we're gonna find out

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more about that as Dave brings us
the important beats for My Bloody Valentine.

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We are talking about My Bloody Valentine
from nineteen eighty one one hour and thirty

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minutes or one hour in thirty three
minutes, depending on which cut you watch,

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which we'll get to. This film
is rated R and the director of

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this film is George Milhawka. Now, he was a director of Pickup Summer

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in nineteen eighty. He goes to
do My Bloody Valentine in eighty one,

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so this is his second feature.
Oh it was only a second Yeah,

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so well that makes sense though,
because there's a lot in it that I

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felt like was what's the word like? It was very what's the word like?

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It's spunky, It was very like
he was going for broke. Yeah.

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No, yes, it sounds like
his first one. Pick Up Summer

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sounds like it was like a sex
comedy. Well, and that's which were

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very popular in that era. Interesting
because in nineteen eighty two he does Scandal,

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which is a rated X film from
what I can find about it.

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Well, so when we say rated
X. Yeah, are you saying like

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a full blown adult movie? Are
you saying like it was a It used

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to mean a lot. Yeah,
it looked. It looked to be like

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a sex comedy. But there was
definitely there. There may have been adultness

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to it. So that's I couldn't
find much information on it. But then

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in eighty five he goes to do
a movie called Eternal Eternal Evil. In

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nineteen eighty eight he does a little
film called Hostile Takeover. Wait, you

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mean Office Party or the Devastator Devastator
And that was a that was on Thanksgiving.

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That was Thanksgiving movie. We watched
that one year on our on our

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annual Thanksgiving movie marathon. Yeah,
and fun film. David Warner plays a

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guy that comes into his office and
basically takes everybody hostage. Yes, you

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really know, I'll ever find out
the reason now to think about it,

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Oh, he just snapped. He's
just a crazy, lonely person. But

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that's that is quite a deep cut, lost flick. But what was the

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third title? Hostile Takeover, Devastator
Devastator, that's what it was, because

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Office Party was the other party?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, devastator makes

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no sense, No, I I
think that was like a nineties retitle for

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VHS. It had to have been
because office party makes the most sense.

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Yeah, because there are people taking
hostage in an office. Yeah, but

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that is crazy. That was the
my bloody Valentine director. What else has

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he done? So? In eighty
ninety does an episode of The Hitchhiker.

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He does Crossbow the movie in eighty
nine as well, Straight Line, the

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Mister t film from nineteen ninety.
No he didn't, Yes he did,

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No, he did, Yes,
he did. Okay. Then he goes

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to do The Psychic in nineteen ninety
one, Urban Angel nineteen ninety one,

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Deceptions two, Edge of Deception in
ninety four, Bullet to Beijing in ninety

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five with Michael Caine, the Hunger
TV series in ninety eight, Cruel and

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Unusual two thousand and one, Race
to Mars TV series in two thousand and

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seven, six and Stone the Firm
TV series, in the Transporter It's TV

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series in twenty thirteen, and also
Lost Girl in twenty eleven as well.

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So he kind of got his taste
in film and then moved over to TV.

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Two holds. That makes sense though, if you're a working director in

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Canada, because a lot of the
TV series moved there, especially in early

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two thousands. Yeah, after the
X Files kind of established production in Vancouver,

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which there was already production in Toronto
and all that. So that makes

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sense. So interesting that he went
into television, Yeah, and I mean

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in a very interesting resume too.
So moving down our list, we have

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the one of the writers which is
Stephen A. Miller. He did writing

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for in the beginning in nineteen seventy
eight was his first one. He goes

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to write for The Jeffersons in nineteen
eighty, Flow in nineteen eighty as well,

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writes on My Bloody Valwnsine in eighty
one, Archie Bunker's Place in eighty

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one as well, goes to work
on air Wolf in eighty five, Magnum

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p I in eighty seven, Chameleons
in eighty nine, Evening Shade in nineteen

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ninety, Kung Fu the legend continues
in ninety five, Flipper TV series in

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nineteenninety six, Nightman in nineteen ninety
seven, No Yes, Wow, Diagnosis

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Murder two thousand and then also is
credited on the two thousand and nine remake

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of My Believeuntains. I would assume
that's for characters. Yeah, the characters

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is correct. So he was the
sole writer or was it was? He

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wrote on several episodes for no,
No, I'm sorry, sol writer of

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yeah. See, for once,
Dave lost the point of what the show's

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about, because the story development credit
goes to John Beard. He did it

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for you know, my advounced on
nine and eighty one. Then he is

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uncredited on Happy Birthday to me.
Oh, maybe he was a parahaunt guy.

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It could have been, because then
in nineteen eighty two he does a

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little film called Baker County, USA
aka Trapped with Henry Silva, the movie

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that Andy Copp showed at Shadow Cinema
at one time, where he locks that

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guy in his cellar. Oh man, yeah, I like that flick.

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Yeah. And then also he's credited
on My Blood Bounce Sid remake in two

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thousand and nine as well. So
you have two writers on this one.

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Steven A. Miller is your main
writer, and then you get created Veltman

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for John Beard finishing us off is
our cinematographer. And unfortunately in this week

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there's only a couple titles I'm excited
to tell you about. But he's still

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got a pretty decent resume. Okay, so his name is Brodney Gibbons.

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He's the DP on Pickup Summer in
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goes with him on the second film
of My Blood Valentine. In eighty

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one eighty eight, he does something
about love. In nineteen eighty nine,

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he does blind Side. The Yes, that one, that one, the

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one with Harvey Kaitel. Yes,
that was a random Netflix streaming find I

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had, which it hasn't been on
there for ten years. Yeah, but

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I watched that randomly that I know
the ending blind Side of it. Yeah,

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that movie. I don't want to
spoil it as if anyone's gonna be

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able to watch it find it.
Yeah, but blind Side it has a

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big, like dark twist right at
the end and the title just get by

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Side. So then in nineteen ninety
he does a little film called The Amityville

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Curse. The Amityville Curse the one
non official Amityville movie of the era when

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there were official ami because the Amityville
Horror, for those who don't know,

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had several official sequels. I guess
it was six total movies because because you

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don't count Amityville Curse and at the
time, no one really understood what we

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know now, which is why there
are so many Amityville movies, which is

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that you cannot copyright or trademark a
town on a map. Basically that's that's

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basically the way it's described as like, if it's on a map, you

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can't just you can't own it.
So friggin' yeah, oh keeps going,

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so Backstab in nineteen ninety. He
goes then to shoot Scanners, to the

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New Order in ninety one, What
Twin Sisters in ninety two, Dead Bolt

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ninety two, and then a little
film called The paper Boy in nineteen ninety

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four, My favorite paper Boy,
Psycho paper Boy. Yes, well that

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makes sense because that was produced by
Pierre David, who started his big film

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career really with Scanners, so it
makes sense that he would hire him a

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couple of different times. And Pierre
David, in case you didn't guess by

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his freaking name French Canadian and he's
that's you just got me on a dangerous

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tyrant. Pierre David is one of
those guys that no one ever talks about,

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and he was when I bought the
Blu ray set of Scanner Coop and

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Scanner Cop two. He directed Scanner
Cop. It's the only film he's officially

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directed directed. And his interview was
fascinating because it was short and he's never

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been interviewed that I've ever been able
to find. Yeah, but all he

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has to say about Scanner Cop is
he's like, I did a serviceable job,

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Like I did not do a bad
job. That's his entire opinion of

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it. But Pierre David over a
hundred credits as a producer. He was,

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in many ways the Roger Korman of
Canada. He's still producing made for

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TV movies to this day. But
no one ever talks about Pierre David.

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Nobody's ever talking about how he made
all of these crazy, crazy thrillers in

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the nineties, just NonStop erotic thrillers, horror movies, sex movies, well

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sexy movies. Yeah. But and
The paper Boy is a good example.

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Paper Boy is of the killer kid
variety, which in the nineties there was

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just this huge influx of them.
Yeah, with Mikey with The paper Boy

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and a few others that I'm forgetting
the titles of. Can you say playing

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dangerous? Kind of? Yeah,
I mean it was kind of I mean,

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the kid is killing. Yeah,
basically playing dangerous. That's another movie

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I love, but that's basically Home
Alone. If the kid was in the

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Sociopath, Yeah, which with playing
Dangerous, it's like it's like, huh

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if the Home Alone kid cried every
time he hurt somebody horribly Jesus oh,

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because he's like literally killing terrorists but
he's twelve. Yeah, it's an insane

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film. But no, so that
doesn't shock me. That he worked with

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Pierre David, so that's super cool. So then finishing him off nineteen ninety

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five, he is Screamers in ninety
six, he has Natural Enemy ninety seven,

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Dead Innocent, and then he also
goes to work on the LASTI series

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in ninety seven as well. Okay, so he had a pretty pretty decent

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resume. I was having fun looking
through it, but I was completely blown

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away when I saw a blind side
on there. Definitely a Canadian workhourse.

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It's also not the first time blindside'll
be brought up here in a little bit.

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Oh yeah, snap, well I'm
blind sided. Just hold onto your

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hat there, caw poke. So
we are going to, like I said,

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be talking about my blood. Valentine
nineteen eety one, Screen Factory Blu

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Ray synopsis says, on Valentine's Day, someone always loses their heart. Twenty

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years ago, this small town lost
more than that. When supervisors abandoned their

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post to attend the town's annual holiday
dance, A tragedy claimed the lives of

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five miners. The sole survivor,
Harry Warden, was institutionalized, but returned

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for a vengeful massacre On the disaster's
anniversary. Nineteen years later, the town

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is gearing up for another Valentine's Day
party and teen sweethearts TJ Sarah, along

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with their friend Axel, are among
the partygoers. But when a box of

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candy containing an eerie warning and blood
soaked hard arrive, the townsfolk realized that

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romance is as good as dead,
and so are they. Ooh, I

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like that they led with a like
with a creepy poem. Yeah, but

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not the bloody heart human heart ripped
from a chest. Yes, that's an

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interesting and very length lengthy so I
want to give your synopsis. Go for

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it. The citizens of Valentine Bluffs
are faced with a series of murders when

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a dranged killer returns twenty years after
his original massacre. As they all try

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to stay alive on Valentine's Day.
I mean that is meat potatoes right there.

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Boom, that was good. That
was that where shit though? That

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was much like Pierre David's own opinion
of his directing of Scanner Cup, which,

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by the way, I think Scanner
CoP's a great film. Here comes

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great. But that'll do Pedal do
that'll it'll do. So we will say

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when it comes to my belly,
Valentine. This one is not streaming anywhere

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right now. You will have to
rent it on either one of the many

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services available of course. Yeah,
it's just not super readily available. But

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shell Factory should happenredib Yeah. So
the cast of the film we are going

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to be talking about, we have
Lori Holler place Sarah in this. She

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was in Bizarre, the Bill or
Bob Einstein Canadian TV series. That's where

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she started at Bizarre. I never
saw that, Yeah, nineteen seventy nine.

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It was a TV series the Bob
Einstein did, so she was on

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that. I belie Valentine in nineteen
eighty one, goes to do, Trapper

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John MD in nineteen eighty three,
Trapper John Dukes of Hazzard in eighty four,

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Warnings signed nineteen eighty five, Alfred
Hitchcock Presents in nineteen eighty seven,

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blind Side nineteen eighty seven. Oh
man, you weren't kidding this. Yeah,

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this is the most I've talked about
Blindside in a long time. Higher

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Education nineteen eighty eight, The Twilight
Zone, eighty eight Days of Our Lives,

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eighty nine, fri Thirteenth Series,
and eighty eight. Forever Night in

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nineteen ninety two, Matt Locke in
ninety three, RoboCop in nineteen eighty four,

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the Canadian series Well, yeah,
it makes sense. Night of the

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Twisters in nineteen ninety six. Which
have you ever seen Night of the Twisters?

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I don't believe. So it used
to play ABC Family all the time,

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and it made for TV movie like
when this town gets completely just rocked

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by these tornadoes, like I think
like an amount of like six or seven

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of them in one night. Wow, it's a fun movie, but it's

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also pretty scary. It sounds scary. Yeah, Well we're in Ohio and

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we get tornado, so it sounds
pretty scary. Kung Fu The Legend continues

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in ninety three Star Trek Voyager.
In ninety seven, she played doctor Riley

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Fraser. I wish I was that
encyclopedic a voyager. I do love Voyager.

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It was only one episode, so
I figured I would just take a

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guess on there for that one.
I mean yeah, it was a guest

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role. Yeah, Porter, Guys, The Legacy in ninety seven, The

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Hitchhiker in ninety seven, Guys Legacy. That means it brings up our good

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buddy, James Cappy. Yes,
so Total Recall twenty seventy, In nineteen

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ninety nine, Thomas and the Magic
Railroad two thousand, Monty Walsh two thousand

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and three, Ghost Cat in two
thousand and four, Heart Stopper, Yes,

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the Robert England film Heart Stopper in
two thousand, art six, Stopper,

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Flashpoint in two thousand and nine,
Christmas Inheritance in twenty seventeen, Christmas

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in Love in twenty eighteen, and
Missus America in twenty twenty. So she's

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actually even still acting today. She's
got a couple things coming out soon.

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I am positive it's probably the case. But I sure hope Miss America was

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Missus America. I sure hope that
was a Canadian production. I'm sure I'd

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guarantee it was. So the other
a person We're gonna talk about is Neil

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00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.720
Affleck. He plays Axle in the
film. He started on O Heavenly Dog,

403
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:03.079
which Heavy Chase in nineteen eighty,
We Like Most of Us, Yes,

404
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.240
Final Assignment in nineteen eighty, Dirty
Tricks nineteen eighty, Scanners eighty one,

405
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.920
My Bloody Valentine eighty one, Visiting
Hours in nineteen eighty two, Murder

406
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:14.440
by Phone in nineteen eighty two,
Cross Country in nineteen eighty three, Web

407
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:18.279
of Lies in twenty sixteen, fear
Thy Neighbor in twenty seventeen. But where

408
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:22.359
his career gets interesting is in nineteen
ninety one, he's an animation timer on

409
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.920
The Simpsons, Rocko's Modern Life,
Oh the Critic, Twisted Tails of Felix

410
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.920
the Cat. He becomes the animation
director on King of the Hill in ninety

411
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.599
seven, Rugrats, as well sheet
timer on Magic School Bus Rides Again in

412
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:38.440
twenty seventeen, storyboard artist, and
he also directed episodes of Family Guy,

413
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:42.759
The Simpsons, Brace Face, and
Miss Spider's Sunny Patch Friends. Wow,

414
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:47.599
I don't. I mean, I
never thought we would have somebody from Miss

415
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.880
Spider's Sunny Patch Friends. Yes,
Sunny Patch Friends. No, that's wow.

416
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.359
So yeah, that's a big career
shift. Yeah. And tying that

417
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:57.079
into it is Keith Knight, who
plays Hollis in the film. He was

418
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:02.119
in mes Ed Kemper said, yes, Ed Kemper, which has hit that

419
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:07.400
actor in that role, he looks
like serial killer Ed Kemper. I'm sorry,

420
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.480
I don't make the rules. So
Keith and I played in Meatballs in

421
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.200
nineteen seventy nine, Hogwild in nineteen
eighty, My Blood, Valentine eighty one,

422
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.599
Gas eighty one, Class of nineteen
eighty four and eighty two. I

423
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:23.279
bet I remember him well. He
also is in Siege in nineteen eighty nineteen

424
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:26.079
eighty three, he was one of
the bad guys. He's a blind kid.

425
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:32.079
Oh, he's the No, he's
not, Yes, that's him.

426
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.359
No, Yeah, and then he's
the bully in nineteen eighty four. Yeah,

427
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.799
he's definitely the bully. It's the
same man, Yeah, putting faith

428
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:42.559
in lair on him. You can't
even recognize him almost now. This man

429
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:48.960
is a stalwart yeap of what's called
canuck'xploitation, which is exploitation films made in

430
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:55.119
Canada, especially from the eighties and
nineties. And yes, Kanuck is not

431
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:59.440
a very nice thing to say,
But that is the type of film it

432
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:03.960
is. But I'm having him be
in Siege and Class of nineteen eighty four.

433
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.519
I mean those are two like just
Chef's Kiss. Yeah, can exploitation

434
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:21.079
movies. Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back

435
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:29.680
to do You Even movie? So
then eighty three he does of unknown origin.

436
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:32.400
He goes to American Playhouse. In
nineteen eighty seven, he becomes a

437
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.039
voice on the care Bears in eighty
eight, does the care Bears Adventure in

438
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.640
Wonderland eighty seven, does the Twilight
Zone reboot in eighty nine, Wore the

439
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:42.359
World's eighty eight, Babar the Elephant
at eighty nine, b Bar Beatlejuice cartoon

440
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.720
in nineteen ninety, Rupert nineteen ninety
one, The Adventures of ten ten in

441
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.839
ninety one, Robocops series in ninety
four, Tales from the Cripkeeper ninety four,

442
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:55.480
Freaky Stories ninety eight, Mystery Files
of Shelby Wu in nineteen ninety eight.

443
00:30:55.640 --> 00:31:00.720
I watched the Hell out of Mystery
Finals Franklin in two That in Queer's

444
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.279
Folk in two thousand and two,
Rescue Heroes and Oe to Cyberchase two thousand

445
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.319
and four and Miss Spider's Sunny Patch
Friends in two thousand and five. He

446
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.279
unfortunately left us in O five as
well. I'm sorry to hear that,

447
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.000
but I mean a hell of a
body of work. Well, the moment

448
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.599
that I realized because I remembered the
guy from class of nineteen eighty four,

449
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.039
but when I saw Siege on there, I was like, holy shit,

450
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.720
I would have never remembered he was
the blind kid in Siege. So you

451
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.079
talked about your first time seeing this
my first time seeing the film. I

452
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.039
saw a bunch of pieces of this
movie on the Going to Pieces documentary that

453
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.440
stars did that was all about the
Rise, and there were pieces in Going

454
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.960
to Pieces, Yes there was.
And my uncle, who I've talked about

455
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.200
on the show, was a big
influence on me for my horror and I

456
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.640
lived with him for the last year
before when I left college. He had

457
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.640
talked about my bloody Valentine as just
like when I was giving into Slashers.

458
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.079
And then one year, in one
of his care packages, he sends me

459
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:53.640
a copy of the old Paramount DVD. Sounds more like a scare package to

460
00:31:53.720 --> 00:32:00.200
me. Thank you, yeah,
huh, thank you. Yes. So

461
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:04.880
I watched it and I really really
liked it. It didn't hit me as

462
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.960
much as I love it now today. And then when the uncut footage got

463
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:12.839
released, so basically to give you
the synopsis of what happened to this movie.

464
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:15.319
Unfortunately, right around the time it
was gonna get released, John Lennon

465
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:20.880
got killed. And when Lennon got
killed, anything bad happened. When Lennon

466
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.839
got killed, there was a lot
of censorship on violence and films. Huh,

467
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:28.279
oh, well, because didn't they
think the guy was inspired something They

468
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.039
always think that, Yeah, I
love that joke about like man, you

469
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:36.119
know, Hitler played some really violent
video games, like yeah, it's our

470
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.119
media making us crazy. It's not
our craziness making the media crazy. No,

471
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:44.160
so the MPAA issued several cuts on
it. Of course, in the

472
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.400
NPA never tells you what to cut, so six to seven minutes of gore

473
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:51.319
and violence they heavily suggest, heavily
suggest. Well, and it doesn't help

474
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:53.039
that this was the beginning of the
rise of the slasher movie. They had

475
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:57.519
just dealt with Friday the Thirteenth,
Yeah, which they cut pretty harshly as

476
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.559
well, and then the deluge of
Friday the Thirteenth sequels. So this was

477
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:06.359
the beginning of a pretty heavy handed
time period. Now, technically, what

478
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:12.880
the MPAA did was not censorship.
What it was was the rating system,

479
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.119
and it's important to keep in mind
if you want to make a movie that's

480
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.799
going to be in theaters, especially
back then, more so back then,

481
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.400
if you don't get an R rating, then you get what use They used

482
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:23.960
to call it an X even though
it wasn't an official rating. It was

483
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:28.119
just what you gave yourself. X
ratings were not just for adult movies.

484
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.680
Things like Dawn of the Dead was
released with an X rating. Day of

485
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:35.079
the Dead was released with an X
rating. So but if you have an

486
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:39.079
X or not an R, well
NC seventeen didn't come along for a little

487
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:44.200
while. But if you don't have
that R rating, then you can't be

488
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:49.079
printed in newspapers and you can't advertise
on television. And that was not a

489
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:53.319
legal thing that was, but that
was an agreement that organizations had made with

490
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:58.359
the MPAA. Now I hate the
MPAA. I'm glad that they're becoming the

491
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:04.440
way of the DODO. But it's
not technically censorship, but it is true.

492
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.759
If you don't make that our rating, then you're crippling the film that's

493
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:09.559
why you have so many movies.
I'm sure that many people watching this so

494
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:15.239
so many movies they love where their
home video version is uncut or what have

495
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:21.679
you. It's because if you have
an NC seventeen rating. Now NC seventeen

496
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:23.800
literally means no one under seventeen is
allowed, even with para gard even with

497
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:27.920
a parent or guardian, as we're
our rating, you could bring younger people

498
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.760
if you were a parent. Like
that's how I saw Freddy Versus Jason in

499
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.880
the theater. Was my mama took
me and three teenagers we didn't know who

500
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:39.039
were left out. Yeah, we
literally ranted these three kids that were about

501
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:42.679
my age when I was there to
see Freddy Versus Jason, and they all

502
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:46.000
had tickets because their parents had bought
them tickets. And then we're like,

503
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.400
go see your movie. And then
they wouldn't let them in the door with

504
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.960
tickets. Well, my mom's plan
was the same. She was gonna buy

505
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:54.559
me tickets at the door and then
let us through. But they were like,

506
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.440
no, you gotta go with them. So my mom bought herself a

507
00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:59.639
ticket and then look at those kids
and were like, come on here with

508
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:04.039
me. I just brought it geez, it's like four teenagers that we didn't

509
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.440
know. So we were heroes that
day. I bet you were. Not.

510
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.039
All heroes were cap Dave, but
no, So that's important to keep

511
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:13.639
in mind. So the R rating, if you didn't get an R,

512
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.239
it was basically the death kiss for
any hope of a big theatrical release,

513
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.280
and that was the Swan Song with
My Bloody Valentine because all the violence was

514
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.000
basically just cut out. Yeah,
it was pretty happy, I mean it

515
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.960
was. There's very little because that's
the first version of the film I ever

516
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.840
saw, and that's why in two
thousand and nine, when Lionsgate What got

517
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:37.119
a hold of the footage that Mohawka
had found that he thought was lost,

518
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.599
they reinstated a lot of the gore
back in the movie. Not all of

519
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:43.000
it now. There's still some shots
missing, which we'll get into as we

520
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.880
go into the episode. But this
movie, for the best version to find

521
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:50.880
is the unrated because that has most
of the violence intact. The theatrical is

522
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:52.559
not bad. It's it's perfectly watchable. You'll get all the gist of it,

523
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.800
but you're gonna be missing a lot
of juicy details, which we will

524
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:59.320
cover. So don't worry. I
was really impressed with the quality they were

525
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.440
able to get a real because we've
watched So that's what I mean is with

526
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:06.719
this, this most recent release,
because a lot of the films that end

527
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.519
up getting that treatment where it's like
we were able to composite something together.

528
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:13.920
Oftentimes the sources like vhs, like, yeah, the biggest example, I

529
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.519
could think of A Silent Night Every
night. The gore stuff that was cut

530
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:21.320
for an R rating is just lost. It's lost. But there's some vhs

531
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:24.480
because way back in the day,
you would take what was called your work

532
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:29.639
print, and often it would be
dubbed to tape, and work prints didn't

533
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:31.519
have a sound mix. It had
sound, but no mix. It didn't

534
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:34.840
have music, it didn't have anything
like that. It was just a print

535
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:37.599
for the director to look at,
for the producers to look at to make

536
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.760
a judgment about before they cut the
negative, because cutting a film negative is

537
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:46.159
a pretty permanent decision, so you
want to make that decision when you're sure.

538
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:50.320
And that's why a lot of the
stuff was lost because a lot of

539
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.719
these distributors were like, we're in
a hurry, we just want to cash

540
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:54.239
it, and they would just cut
the negative, well, and just remove

541
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:58.320
stuff. It goes without saying too
that Back in that day too, the

542
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.679
whole rumor was always that once that
stuff was cut, it was usually destroyed

543
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.880
because there was no reason to keep
it, because and destroyed is a hefty

544
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.840
word for put in a waste basket. Put it in a waste basket,

545
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:09.519
put in a vault, lost in
a vault, maybe in a vault.

546
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:13.400
Yeah yeah, but I mean the
old saying is true. It would be

547
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:16.800
on the cutting rud floor, yeah, and eventually somebody sweeps it. Yeah.

548
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.599
So, And I mean one of
the best examples that we can give

549
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.760
is that Friday thirteenth box set a
couple of years ago that finally had what

550
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.480
was thought to be the lost footage
of all the kills in part two.

551
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:29.599
Well in part two yeah, oh
yeah, yeah, it was in and

552
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.039
they found a ton of the kills
from part seven Part seven, Yeah,

553
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:36.480
which was a big one because John
Carl Bickler, who directed it, was

554
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:40.039
an effects artist. Yeah, so
he had every reason to save the kills

555
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:43.960
at least on a VHS tap,
and he did, luckily for us.

556
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:47.159
So moving into the movie, are
you ready to get this started? Maybe?

557
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:50.360
I don't know, it's not even
late yet, it's not even one.

558
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.679
So we are talking again about my
belie Valentine nineteen eighty one, and

559
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:57.719
we opened with probably one of the
best cold opens in horror. I'm gonna

560
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:00.239
say. We opened with a shot
of a mine and there's nobody in it

561
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:07.119
until we start seeing two figures in
mining outfits come forward and they are going

562
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:09.159
off into one sector of the mine, and we start to see the girl

563
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:13.400
because she starts stripping. We don't
know that there's a woman yet, but

564
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:15.679
all of a sudden, she starts
stripping, and now we're getting treated to

565
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:20.719
one of the biggest slasher cliches.
Yep. Two people have snuck off away

566
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:25.679
to go make out in generally somewhere
dangerous and filthyp is almost always the role,

567
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.280
yep, and this is no exception. In a mind. Yes,

568
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:31.920
so she starts stripping and she goes
to you, take off the other miner's

569
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.559
helmet. He says no, and
so she just starts, you know,

570
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.199
going further with it, and then
he sees that she has a heart tattoo

571
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:43.639
right above her breast. Well,
and this is some really smart filmmaking.

572
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.880
Yeah, so there's this very bright
heartship art tattoo on her breast yep.

573
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:51.440
And as the scene's progressing, your
eyes keep being drawn to it. The

574
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:55.079
camera keeps drawing you to it.
And then as things escalate, Yes,

575
00:38:55.360 --> 00:39:00.960
he shoves her back and a like
some kind of a thing, so he

576
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.559
takes his pick axe. Yeah,
that's what it was. You put the

577
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:07.960
pickaxe against the wall. He shoves
it and it sticks right through the heart

578
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.519
through too, Yes, and it
comes into the camera. It really grabs

579
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:15.480
your attention and make sure your eyes
are exactly where the gross out is going

580
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.039
to be. Very good, very
good directing. I love that in trop

581
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.840
I don't know so good. I
don't know about the best horror history.

582
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.199
I mean it's no sleep away camp
too. I mean, not everything can

583
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.719
be well in my America when we
used to have a country, you could

584
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:36.639
buy rifles and lobsters at Walmart when
we were a country. But going back

585
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:38.519
again to the censorship, if you
are watching the theatrical cut, you're not

586
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:42.159
going to see the pick come through. All you're going to see is her

587
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:44.239
screaming and the camera goes into her
mouth, and that's what we get the

588
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:47.159
title my pull Really. Yeah,
that's that's a shame because that like ruins

589
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:50.880
it. Yeah, I mean,
because that effect was so intentional. Yeah,

590
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:52.360
the theatrical he literally just takes her, shoves her, and then she

591
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.320
screams and then my blue Valentine.
You don't see any of the impact or

592
00:39:55.360 --> 00:40:00.239
anything that was discussed. That's that's
too bad. Yeah. So that the

593
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.519
opening of the film, and we
now are in the Hanniger minds as we

594
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:07.039
meet the crew. We have TJ, Axel, Howard Hollis, Michael Dave,

595
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.639
and a couple others, and we
are treated to a nice shower scene

596
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:14.000
right off the bat. Yeah,
but not the way you would expect.

597
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:17.159
No, it was this is basically
the antithesis of the opening of Slumber Party

598
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:22.880
massacreally, So the guys are showering, and that's like I said. We

599
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.360
meet TJ and Axel and we find
out that TJ has just returned back to

600
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.920
the town. He had vanished at
one point and went to California to try

601
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:30.199
and make it big. Kind of
fell in his face. So we came

602
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:34.920
back and TJ when he left was
dating Sarah, who is now with Axel,

603
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.800
and TJ and Axel are long long
buddies, like they've been friends for

604
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:43.480
a long time, but now a
love triangle, a love triangle is brewing.

605
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:45.840
So they all are showering and they
decide that they're going to have a

606
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.280
race to the Cage, which is
the local bar. They said last one

607
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:51.920
they are buys the Bruce. So
then we see them all leaving and running

608
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.519
out of their cars, driving down
the road and they're going past the Valentine

609
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:58.800
Bluff sign and they get into the
town and they go into the Union Hall

610
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:00.840
and we meet and Howard blows an
air horn alerting the girls, which makes

611
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.920
them jump because the girls are decorating
for the Valentine's Day dance and which sounds

612
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.119
wonderful. Yes, now, real
quick, do they express where this takes

613
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.480
place other than Valentine's Blood, Like
does it? Are they trying to pretend

614
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.559
it's America or don't really ever see? I mean, I you know,

615
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.840
we will just go ahead and say
it's Nova Scotia is where this was,

616
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.639
is where we're supposed to be.
So but yeah, I think what we're

617
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:23.960
supposed to be where we're literally are
apologies, But I yeah, I don't

618
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:27.239
know, I don't know if it
was meant to be in Canada, it

619
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:28.719
was meant to be in America.
I think it was meant to be in

620
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:30.760
America. I think it was.
But yeah, I mean, if if

621
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:32.159
it is, they don't really push
much on it because there's a lot of

622
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.880
Canada in this movie. I mean, is there literally like a bear with

623
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.880
a like a hat on or I
don't know why that would be Canada.

624
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.559
That has nothing to do with Canada. So TJ notices excellent Sarah, and

625
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:46.119
he's kind of standing off to the
side, and that is when we meet

626
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.280
the mayor of the town, along
with Mabel, who is one of the

627
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.800
women in the town that owns the
laundromat and she's also one of the women

628
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:54.920
behind the Valentine's Day dance returning and
the mayor is you know, he's like,

629
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:57.639
oh, well, you know,
you've done great on the decorating.

630
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.320
It's everything's great, but you know, we may just want to tone down

631
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.559
on this being the first Valentine's Day
in twenty years, so like, let's

632
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:07.320
not broadcast that too loud. Gee, why on earth would they not have

633
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:12.360
celebrated Valentine's Day for twenty years?
I don't know. But as Mabel and

634
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.079
the mayor arrive to Union Hall,
Howard, who is being a goof,

635
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:19.159
has had red paint spilled on him, so he pops out scares Mabel and

636
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.119
she has these Valentine's hearts in these
baskets and they all fall to the ground

637
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.079
and I love it because he falls
into the Mayor's arms because he's acting dead.

638
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:28.360
He goes, hey guy, yeah, no, it's really charming.

639
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.280
I really love that that gag at
the beginning. So Mabel goes into the

640
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:34.880
Union Hall and the mayor goes into
it too, and we also meet Chief

641
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.599
Nuby and everybody is looking at the
decorations. They're saying, they're commenting on

642
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:42.400
how good it is, and nube
is told by the Mayor that they need

643
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.039
to get going because they have a
meeting to go to, and as they

644
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.199
leave, Howard grabs the mayor and
tells him or yeah, grabs the mayor

645
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:51.119
and tells him that they have a
heart box that was at the hall for

646
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:55.920
him, a heart shaped, heart
shaped box full of candy. So he

647
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.079
gives him the gives them the box. He's like, you know, Mabel,

648
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:00.880
were you in on this, and
he's like, don't look at me.

649
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.480
So then they go ahead and leave, and that's when the crew goes

650
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.159
to the cage and we meet the
rest of the gang as Happy, the

651
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:13.039
bar owner of the cage, who
is anything but Yeah, that's some solid

652
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.079
irony. Like that's like in one
of my few slasher films when I named

653
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:21.000
a character Lucky. Yes. Yeah, if you've seen Baby Center massacre,

654
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:23.320
you know, and if you haven't, well there's your homework. So the

655
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:28.440
reason that Happy is not the most
liveliest of the bar in a bit of

656
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.800
a grump, is because he is
just kind of obsessed with the legend of

657
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.719
Harry Warden. And the legend of
Harry Warden is twenty years ago, they

658
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:37.800
were doing a Valentine's Day dance.
On Valentine's Day. There were some men

659
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:40.679
in the mines and the supervisors wanted
to get to the dance early, so

660
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:45.360
they decided to leave early without checking
the methane levels of the tunnel. Something

661
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:49.440
happens and explosion occurs, and now
we have six miners trapped. Those are

662
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:53.440
some serious farts those workers were cutting. So six miners are trapped in the

663
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:58.400
mind now and they work all around
the clock for two weeks to get them

664
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.840
out. When they finally get to
they find one man is still alive.

665
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:06.559
Harry Warden. But Harry Warden at
this point has gone crazy and he's cannibalized

666
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:08.760
the rest of his compadres in the
mine. Well, in his defense,

667
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:13.800
he may have went crazy after cannibalizing
them. He may not have went crazy

668
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.199
before. I mean, yeah,
we don't know. We just covered ravenous.

669
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:21.920
I was gonna say, I will
I will mention right now at the

670
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:23.480
end of the episode, I will
be talking about this book right here,

671
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:28.400
which is the novelization of My Bloody
Valentine by Armando Minas. I finished it,

672
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:30.599
and there is more to happy story
in it that I'll talk about Towards

673
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:35.639
the end. They do go into
detail in regards of Harry's madness a little

674
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:37.519
bit more. Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, So he killed

675
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.519
them, ate them, and now
he's been found and Happy was the one

676
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:44.840
to find him. Oh and that's
Happy's last day at the mine. It

677
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:51.480
would be mine too relatable context.
Yeah, So Harry Warden gets institutionalized,

678
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.000
but one year later he breaks out
and he goes and kills the two supervisors

679
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:57.639
that left him. I thought you
were saying it was institutionalized and he broke

680
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:01.320
out and he just wanted to s
so he breaks out, goes and kills

681
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:06.239
the two supervisors that were responsible for
the cave in, cuts out their hearts,

682
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.199
puts them in candy boxes, and
leaves them at the Valentine's Day dance

683
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:12.400
that night, which is festive,
with a warning that if they ever hold

684
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:15.280
another Valentine's Day dance, he will
return and kill them. Pretty cut,

685
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:20.159
dry, I mean it sounds like
it. Yeah, so maybe more cut

686
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:23.280
and very moist, actually cutting,
very moist. Well, I saw those

687
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:30.159
hearts in the boxes. It was
cutting wet. Kids. Do you Even?

688
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:40.400
Movie? Will be right back,
welcome back to do You Even?

689
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:47.280
Movie? And as happy as telling
the story, don't worry, we get

690
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:51.840
treated to flashback footage of all of
this. Yes, and the flashback foota

691
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:54.639
is this something I wanted to mention
every time I watch My Bloody Valentine.

692
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:59.199
The first thought that goes through my
head is it feels like a sequel to

693
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:01.239
a movie that does and exists.
Yeah, because the flashback footage is,

694
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:05.920
I don't know, there's just something
about it that really feels like it's recapping

695
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.480
a former film and absolutely when in
reality it's not. It's just the movie.

696
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:12.519
Yeah, but but it really did
feel like, you know, like

697
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:14.400
like, I'm like, wait,
did I not watch the one where this

698
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.199
happened? Yeah? What the which? And my Bloody Valentine prequel would be

699
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.920
pretty cool? Hell yeah it would. I still gotta watch that fan film

700
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:22.480
sequel that came out a couple of
years ago, because I've heard it's pretty

701
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:24.880
good. I have not had a
chance on Bluffs. It's on YouTube.

702
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.559
I need to check it out.
But no, going back to the flashback

703
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:30.840
though. Yeah, So when Harry
is found, he is completely you know,

704
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.719
head to toe dirty, and it
looks completely deranged, and he's just

705
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.960
munching on an arm and he screams
and then she just goes back to biting

706
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.559
the arm. Well what do you
do? I mean, I've literally had

707
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:43.639
the exact same thing happen when you're
eating taco bell It is fair. I'm

708
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.639
like, David, You're like,
ah, then you go right back to

709
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:51.440
that beef five layer of burrito that
I do. That I do. So

710
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:54.960
Howard interrupts halfs story and makes a
raspberry blowing sound, which pisses Hap off,

711
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:57.840
and he's like, you know,
don't make don't make fun of it.

712
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.559
You don't know, and Harry will
come for you. Meanwhile, this

713
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.920
is happening though. Also the guys
are playing five finger uh five finger fil

714
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.800
a, Yeah, that's the term
of five finger fil a, which if

715
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.880
you for those who are smart,
you don't know what this is, but

716
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.840
it's where you put your fingers wide
open on a table and you try to

717
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.440
move a knife blade between your fingers
as fast as possible, tapping the table

718
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.639
and loser is the first one to
fucking stab them and stab himself. But

719
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:28.239
that's exactly what Axel does. It's
him and Hollis playing and Axel missus stabs

720
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.760
himself. He flips Hollis off,
and everybody's just having a good time.

721
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:34.159
That's when Sarah decides to go over
the jukebox where TJ is playing a game,

722
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.079
and she goes, you know you, I don't know exactly, she

723
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:38.239
basically tells him that, like,
you know, it's his fault that he

724
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:40.079
left. He's the one that did
this, and he's like, you know,

725
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:44.480
I didn't say it wasn't and he
gets pissed and goes off, And

726
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:50.119
that is kind of the overall mood
between those two is that Sarah and TJ

727
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.280
still are not talking like Sarah's with
Axel, and that's kind of yeah,

728
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:58.400
there's grapes. Yeah, massive sour
grapes. So TJ leaves and we cut

729
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:00.039
over to the medical examiners off this. Oh wait, excuse me, I

730
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:05.440
must go back a bit because we
forgot that in the car with the mayor

731
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.239
and the sheriff. He opens the
candy box and finds a human heart in

732
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:12.159
it. Oh that's just minor detail. Oh, you know, just with

733
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.559
a note that says, with the
fear of the warning comes to bloody good

734
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:17.559
cheer. Remember what happens is the
fourteenth draws near. He takes it off,

735
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:20.920
and we find the heart, which
we find out to be the woman's

736
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:22.719
heart from the beginning. So yes, he has stuffed another heart in a

737
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.800
candy box, and we are off
to the races once again. Oh yeah,

738
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.159
So they're at the medical examiner's office
and he confirms it's the human heart

739
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:31.360
of a thirty year old female and
he says, you know, what the

740
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.360
hell is going on? This looks
like it was ripped out by a butcher.

741
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.679
Meanwhile, the chief is calling over
to the institution and he tells the

742
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:39.440
mayor that there's no one there right
now that can answer them until morning.

743
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:43.360
If Harry is still at the institution
or not. I was waiting for the

744
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:46.239
medical examiner to go, well,
this is clearly from an owner of a

745
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:51.880
lonely hut. So he says,
I think you guys have your answer.

746
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:57.239
Harry Warden's back in Valentine's Bluff And
next we see Harry just sneaking around Madam

747
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.719
Mabel's laundrette and she is inside washing
the hearts again, and he goes up

748
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.639
to the window watches her. She
goes into the back and he puts a

749
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.880
candy heart box on her table leaves. She comes back, opens it up,

750
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:13.119
and she gets a note that says
roses are red, violets are blue.

751
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:17.559
One is dead, and so are
you, which I mean decent rhyme.

752
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:20.679
Decent rhyme, And like I said
to you while were watching this,

753
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.280
I really hope there's one of the
deleted scenes is Harry going to the store

754
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:30.719
and buying these just in an outfit
and he grabs like he grabs three,

755
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:32.039
and then he's about to walk away, and he looks back and his little

756
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:36.440
flashlight shines on the little sign that
says buy four, get one free,

757
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:42.800
and he grabs two more. So
he leaves the candy box. The Babel

758
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:44.840
goes out, finds it reads that
note, and then all of a sudden,

759
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.480
the lights in the laundromat go down
and the miner comes out from the

760
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:51.159
back, scares Mabel corner, Sir. And one thing that's really cool about

761
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:52.880
Harry warden'sttire that we were talking about
in the movie too, is the mining

762
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.920
helmet the light. Yeah, and
it's important to mention because I feel like

763
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:59.400
we haven't painted a picture of what
he looks like yet. Yeah, so

764
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:02.239
it's important to mention he has a
minor helmet glass. I mean, you

765
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:06.039
can't see his face at all.
You see no skin. He's got gloves

766
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.800
everything like that, and he has
a one of those breathing apparatuses they they

767
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:13.320
wear when they go really deep in
the minds. Uh so. But yeah,

768
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:17.480
the flashlight is my favorite because as
he's stalking people, as he's attacking

769
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:21.639
people, you can tell exactly where
he's looking. It's always the face of

770
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:24.400
people screaming. Yes. It is
some good stuff and it allows for some

771
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:28.519
great fake outs later. Okay,
one of my favorite moments when you see

772
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.159
the light and the girl screams and
then it's revealed it's the cop that gosh,

773
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.239
yeah, it's good stuff. It's
so good. So the gang then

774
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:38.079
decides to so Mabel ends up getting
murdered. The gang decides that they are

775
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:42.199
done for the night, but they're
gonna go to the junkyard, and that's

776
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.199
when we reveal that Hollis has his
car ended up and he's cooking two TV

777
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:49.960
dinners as they're out in the junkyard
just hanging out, drinking, eating you

778
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.559
know, the food, and just
doing HAPPI. You know, boys who

779
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:57.239
see the scene will go hell yeah, hell yeah. So then we get

780
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.760
a fake out, as Enrique was
saying, because we see somebody's just sneaking

781
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:02.639
around the car and we hear harmonica
playing, and we find out that Axel

782
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:07.320
is in this this junked out car
playing harmonica, and TJ comes up to

783
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.039
him with a peace offering with a
bottle and sits next to him and starts

784
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:13.280
playing harmonica as well. They have
a little jam session for a little bit

785
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:15.039
and then they start talking out that
they've got a problem and they've got to

786
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:17.559
work it out, and Axel basically
tells him, you know, fuck off,

787
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:22.760
man, like she's mine, like
you left Sarah is mine aped on

788
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:29.119
her first bro I I gotta say
One of the best parts of the Killer

789
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.639
in this movie is that mine workers
all wear the same clothes. Yeah.

790
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:36.360
So there are tons of fake outs
where you see like feet walking with a

791
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:38.119
pick axe, and then it's just
another guy who works just mon. It's

792
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:44.599
not the It's so it's so smart
in that way, especially as we're about

793
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:50.639
to find out they had these Canadian
teenagers are much more desperate to die than

794
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:55.039
their American slasher movie counterparts out because
we'll get to it. We're almost there.

795
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:58.920
So the next morning, the chief
calls back to the institution. He

796
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:00.920
speaks to missus Rawleig, who informs
him they have no record of Harry Warden,

797
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:07.199
which means he's either escaped, died, or the escaped. He's either

798
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:10.840
been no, he never saysast is
it released, transferred or on the slack

799
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.760
take one of three, take your
pick, and that pisses Nubie off,

800
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:16.880
and he says one out of three. You're gonna have to check better than

801
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:20.480
that, and she's like, I've
checked everything, well except the micro film,

802
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:22.239
but that'll take several days and I'll
have to get to it at some

803
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.840
point. So he tells her,
you know this is important, please get

804
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:27.960
to it. As soon as you
can hangs up with them. We next

805
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.679
see Patty and Sarah walking over to
one of the stores in town, and

806
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:32.599
they're talking about how they're gonna have
so much fun for the Valentine's Day dance.

807
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:38.079
Except Newby then arrives at the laundromat
and he goes to find Mabel,

808
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:42.079
but he sees nothing inside it.
First, Oh god, this is such

809
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:45.880
a nasty reveal. So he notices
that the paper hearts in her laundromat,

810
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.599
some of them are turned upside down, so he starts taking them off and

811
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:52.199
up setting the up right. Which
I love this because you know she's she's

812
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:53.719
in one of the dryers we find
out here and see you hear all you

813
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:57.760
hear is the loud sound of a
dryer, right Yeah. And he's also

814
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.000
like smelling his pipe because you can
tell there's an odor. There's something off

815
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.239
in there. Yeah. He walks
past the dryer that's completely covered in blood.

816
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:07.159
Well, he's we never said he
was a good police, that's fair.

817
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.519
So he goes and picks up one
of the hearts. He opens one

818
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:13.480
of the dryers that's just closed,
and then the dryer next to him opens

819
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:16.199
up as Mabel's charred corpse comes out. But that's not the worst part.

820
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:22.559
The dryer kicks up, it's spinning. It's corpse is all mangled and burnt,

821
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.840
and it's turning, yeah, and
turning and turning. Another thing that's

822
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:30.199
added back in because the original theatrical
you just see your pop out and it's

823
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:31.960
really quick and that's it. Well, it makes sense because it's gnarl.

824
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:35.519
It's gruesome. No, it's probably
one of the most gruesome points of the

825
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:37.960
movie is just watching that body twirl
because it almost breaks at one point.

826
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:40.800
That and the eyeball, Yeah,
we'll get to a little bit for that.

827
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.519
Those were the big ones for me. Yeah, So Mabel is now

828
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:46.840
is now found dead. Down in
the mind, TJ and Axel almost get

829
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:50.199
into a fight because it's the next
day. They're at work and they're all

830
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:53.320
a little hungover as well because of
the night before, and Axel is dictating

831
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:55.679
to TJ that he wants him to
go down in one sector of the mine,

832
00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:58.880
and TJS says, you know,
he's been on my ass all day,

833
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:00.639
and he's like, move it now, Hannager. He puts his pick

834
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:05.320
action on the ground. They go
at it until the manager Mac tells them

835
00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:07.599
there's not gonna be any fighting.
They fight, they don't start making love.

836
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:12.800
They briefly fight. Yeah, it's
a they go at it. I'm

837
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:16.599
like, let's not get our audience
too excited now, so he tells He

838
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:20.719
tells Axel there's not gonna be any
fighting in his mind. Back at the

839
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.000
laundromat, Nubie instructs the medics that
have now gotten there and are taking care

840
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:25.679
of Mabel that he wants them to
pull around back and load her in so

841
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:30.039
nobody sees and as far as anybody's
concerned, Mabel died of a heart attack.

842
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:34.719
You know, that's one of the
things you can always count on when

843
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.840
it comes to cops in a slasher
movie. Yeah, they'll cover up any,

844
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:42.599
cover up anything. Although they actually
jumped to action pretty quickly. They

845
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:45.280
take this point. Well, like
we said, he's he's definitely not the

846
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:47.559
mayor from Jaws in this No,
he is the antithesis of the mayor from

847
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:52.239
Jaws. The second body shows up
and they're like, uh, we're canceling

848
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:54.199
everything. So he tells them to
pull around back and load her in there.

849
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:57.840
And as they're getting ready to take
her out, he notices that there's

850
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:00.760
something in her chest cavity and pulls
out a paper heart that says it happened

851
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:04.679
once, it happened twice. If
you don't cancel the dance, it'll happen

852
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:08.119
thrice. Which uh again, fine, a fine rhyme, rhyme. He's

853
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:10.920
no run DMC. But now I'm
just picturing it with the desk like,

854
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.159
oh doesn't now. I just imagine. I just imagine he's like he's just

855
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:19.960
sitting there with like in the full
regalia. I felt like he's tapping the

856
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:23.039
pencil on the helmet and then and
then he's like flipping through the pages.

857
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:30.199
He's just like flipping through the pages
of a rhyming dictionary. See if Harry

858
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:31.960
would have put it, if Harry
would have put his efforts into poetry,

859
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:36.360
he would have been fine. I
think he had he had some skills to

860
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:39.280
home. I really do so pull
the So they canceled the dance. They

861
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:43.159
said, that's it. We're gonna
tear down all the decorations. Nothing's gonna

862
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:45.880
happen, and also lock up the
damn Union Hall because we don't want the

863
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:49.199
kids going in there and having their
dance. So Nubie is next scene locking

864
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:52.119
up Union Hall and delivering the news
to the kids. I say kids,

865
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:54.400
which I mean they pretty much are
right. Uh well, you know,

866
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:58.519
I was gonna say they have to
be like twenty one, but they actually

867
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:00.119
didn't. In most states have to
be one to drink at that point.

868
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:02.760
So they're all adults. Yeah,
they're all like they're all out of high

869
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:06.360
school. Yeah, so newbies delivering
the news to it that there's not gonna

870
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:08.559
be a dance and no parties either, because you know, Mabel deserves that

871
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:10.719
much respect. And of course the
kids are like, well, Mabel was

872
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.719
really excited about the dance. She
would want us to do this, and

873
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:15.719
he's like, no, no,
no parties. Mabel would want us all

874
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:20.760
to die at this dance. She
was She was a cruel old bitch.

875
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:22.880
She if she had to die,
she want us all to join her.

876
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:28.400
So up top of the mines,
TJ and AXL get off the elevator and

877
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:31.039
Axel shouts at TJ that they got
something to finish, and TJ goes,

878
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:34.320
you bet we do. He goes
to his car and drives off, and

879
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:36.760
we see him taking Sarah from her
job and she's like, you know,

880
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:37.440
won't you listen to me? I
don't want to go with you. Are

881
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:40.159
you listening to me? And TJ
goes, nope, I do love that

882
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:44.320
line. Nope, So he shuts
the door. They drive off to the

883
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:47.760
bluffs and TJ and her have a
really sweet scene where TJ basically confesses that

884
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:51.920
he went out to California he tried
to be tried to be an actory with

885
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:53.079
what we find out in the book, and just fell on his ass.

886
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:55.199
He figured, I mean, if
he went to California, he was either

887
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:59.480
trying to be an actor or a
musician basically in the eighties, he just

888
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:01.199
fell on his serial killer. Yeah, he just fell in his ass and

889
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:06.119
he ran out of money and then
something happened with his car as he was

890
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:08.159
either driving back or driving somewhere.
And what you find on the book is

891
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:10.239
that he wrote his dad, who's
the mayor, of course, and his

892
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:13.280
dad was like, Okay, I'll
pay for your car, but you're driving

893
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.119
it back here and you're coming to
work in the mines. I mean,

894
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:17.880
fair enough. I mean, so
he was gone for about a year and

895
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:21.840
he was so ashamed that when when
he left, he couldn't call her,

896
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:23.000
he couldn't contact her. And that's
why Sarah's upset. It's like, you

897
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:25.320
know, I didn't know where you
went. I didn't know what happened to

898
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:29.559
you. You just vanished, and
now you come back and expect everything to

899
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:32.840
be fine. He went ghosts he
went ghost. So Sarah decides that she's

900
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:36.679
not got to ride back with him, and she starts walking away and TJ

901
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:38.599
just gets in his car and drives
past her, and then he returns to

902
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:40.920
the cage. He goes up to
Axel, who's like, have you seen

903
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:43.519
Sarah? And he's like, I
didn't know. It was my job to

904
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:46.960
take care of her. Oh.
Meanwhile, Sarah is walking back from the

905
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:51.719
bluffs and it's dark at this point. She's just hit about town and there's

906
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:53.800
just eerie music going around. It's
dark, we hear al sounds, and

907
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:57.760
then as she's walking up, like
you said, the flashlight falls on her

908
00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:00.559
and it's revealed to be Newbie.
Yeah, but it really you don't think

909
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:02.800
it's gonna be the cop. You
really think it's it's the killer great fake

910
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:07.199
out, Yeah, to keep the
audience interested. So back at the cage,

911
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:09.679
Happy is not buying the story of
Mabel's heart attack. He even says

912
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:13.119
heart attack, my ass, she
got it just the way I said she

913
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:16.519
did, and which makes him a
bit of a red herring, Yeah,

914
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:21.000
just a little bit. So he
doesn't buy Mabel's demise. And meanwhile,

915
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:22.000
the gang is trying to decide,
you know, what they're gonna do since

916
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.800
the party's canceled, And that's when
TJ decides that they're gonna have a party

917
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:31.079
of their own in the mind because
they're so desperate to be murdered. Yeah,

918
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:37.360
they're so excited they just want to
jump in to death. Yes,

919
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:38.880
so they're like, not only are
we going to have a party, We're

920
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:42.599
gonna do it the mind, where
all the horrible stuff twenty years ago that

921
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:45.440
we know about happened happened. And
like we said earlier, TJ is the

922
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:50.199
son of Mayor Hanniger Hanniger Mind,
so he has the keys of the mind,

923
00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:52.880
so he can absolutely get away with
this. Well, I mean,

924
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:58.920
you know, your last name don't
really matter much to the undertaker there,

925
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:01.559
boy. Yeah, so Half warns
them that they decide to still go for

926
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:04.639
with it. You know, they
say, piss on the legend to Harry

927
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:07.239
Warden. You know, it's old
news, We're gonna go and do this.

928
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:08.960
So happy he's like all right,
you guys do it and you'll be

929
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:13.599
sorry. And then Happy decides that
night to sneak out to Hanniger mind.

930
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:15.159
He breaks a lock off, steals
an outfit, steals a pick axe,

931
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:19.000
and he rigs up a Harry Warden
dummy outside of one of the doors that

932
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:22.920
they're beginning into for the party,
which is This is another great scene,

933
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:27.119
yes, that i'd forgotten all about
that really makes this movie stand out that

934
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:29.719
I really love well because he's so
happy, because he basically has it to

935
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:31.119
where it opens the door and the
pick axe goes up and it's goes to

936
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:35.119
scare them, but he's just so
thrilled with it that he just keeps doing

937
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:38.320
it to himself. He keeps opening
the door, closes it, does it

938
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:42.960
again. On the third time.
The real Harry Warden shows up, and

939
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:46.039
Happy gets a pick axe right through
his neck and coming out of his eyeball,

940
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:49.960
pops his eyeball out. His eyeball
pops out of the socket. It

941
00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:52.760
is one of the nastiest moments that
I am positive was not in the original

942
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.280
version. No, it was not
in the original version. All you see

943
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:59.440
is he opens the door and you
hear it, and then he's dragged away.

944
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:01.039
You don't see I mean, I
guess that'll do it too. The

945
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:05.360
boy was that gruesome? Yeah,
no, it's gruesome because not only is

946
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:07.760
the eye picking out, but then
when he sinks down, he drags him

947
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:13.039
by that like he does not take
it out of his joy. It is

948
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:15.400
what you're looking for, if this
is the kind of thing you like.

949
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:19.000
Yeah. So the next morning,
which means I gotta point this out.

950
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:22.960
So the next morning is Saturday of
the fourteenth, which we just passed Friday

951
01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:28.239
of the thirteenth. Okh oh,
so my belody Valentine has a fright of

952
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:31.079
the thirteenth in it. Oh you
see, I'd never caught that before.

953
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:40.119
I feel like this film. Uh, the Paramount executives were thinking, I

954
01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:54.079
think you're right. Do you Even
movie will be right back, welcome back

955
01:00:54.159 --> 01:01:01.519
to do You Even movie. So
it's Saturday the fourteenth, it's the morning

956
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:05.079
of Valentine's Day, and we see
Newbie and the Mayor coming out of the

957
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:07.320
police station and one of the paper
hearts blows past them, the ones they

958
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:10.719
tore down supposedly, so now they're
a little distraught with that owners of a

959
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:15.679
paper Heart. Later that evening,
the kids arrive at the mine and they've

960
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:17.639
got their beard, they've got their
snacks, they've got their tunes, they've

961
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:22.159
got their seed, they've got their
signs that say we just love being alive.

962
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:25.679
So they go in and they start
having their party and they're just having

963
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:29.400
a great time. Back at the
station, Nubi gets faked out because he

964
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:31.880
rides at his desk and sees a
chocolate box that he his sergeant tells him

965
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:36.079
uri for him a little bit ago. He opens it up to find a

966
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:38.800
You're my secret admirer from Mabel and
it's just chocolates. There's no heart in

967
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:45.960
it. Another fake out. Oh
and sadad oh, very sad. The

968
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:51.960
one thing so in my bloody Valentine. The kids are dumb as a as

969
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:57.119
a box of fuck. Yeah,
but you can all borrow that one.

970
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:01.840
But the adults are just like tormented
and sad. Yeah, they they all

971
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:07.559
go through the worst of everything.
Yeah, God damn. So Dj arrives

972
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:10.920
to find that Howard busted the lock
on the door because he has the keys,

973
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:13.880
and he says, you know who
busted the lock and they tell him

974
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:15.920
Howard did. Also, Axel and
Sarah arrive right after him, and we

975
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:21.159
also see Mike and Sylvia slip out
and they start going over to one of

976
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:24.280
the mine rooms as Another arrival is
Dave, who was one of the workers,

977
01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:28.639
and he sees that there's hot dogs
in the kitchen, so he's gonna

978
01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:30.519
go get a hot dog. He
takes a little puff off a joint and

979
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:31.559
he says, I got the munchies, So he goes into the kitchen.

980
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:36.840
He's fishing around for some hot dogs, and then Harry Warden shows up and

981
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:40.039
buries his face into the pot while
it's boiling with the hot dogs, which

982
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:45.360
would honestly only flavor the only flavor
hot dog. Oh, there's flavoring coming

983
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:51.119
down right. Why would you Why
would they all boil hot dogs? No,

984
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:52.039
it's just it's funny because it's like, yeah, they have a big

985
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:55.199
pot of water hot dogs for everybody, but it's like, why wouldn't you

986
01:02:55.239 --> 01:02:58.840
just use the griddle because you just
have to heat them. I mean,

987
01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:01.320
we should mention they're in like a
rec room. They've got a full kitchen,

988
01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:05.480
they've got a full bar and pool
tables and all this stuff. But

989
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:07.440
yeah, they are boiling the hot
dogs. I am a big valves.

990
01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:10.199
Of course, you enjoy boiling hot
dogs. I mean I used to cook

991
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:15.800
them the microwave. I used to
be a fucking heathen. I still look

992
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:21.480
if I'm eating a hot dog for
dinner, if I am eating a friggin

993
01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:28.079
Oscar Meyer weeder, I don't respect
myself. I don't respect there. There

994
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:30.119
at times I haven't even cooked them
and I've eaten them, all right,

995
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:37.480
So I no, no, no, too far, please no, David,

996
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:45.400
that's no that wow. I it's
been correct. It's been years,

997
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:51.360
has it? It's been years.
I'm pretty sure it is. I'm not

998
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.159
gonna look at my time hop tomorrow
and see I screencapped the text for you

999
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:55.800
say it just ate a bunch of
cold hot dogs. Bro oh man,

1000
01:03:55.800 --> 01:04:00.159
If you do, that's gonna be
the ultimate. So Dave gets murdered by

1001
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.760
being pushed into the boiling pot.
And again another scene that was cut.

1002
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:06.119
You'd basically just see him going in
the theatrical and the water stops, and

1003
01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:11.000
that's it. In the director's cut, you see his face just start to

1004
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:14.119
melt. Yeah, it's nasty.
It is nasty as I'll get out,

1005
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:18.559
almost as nasty as boiled hot dogs
in a communal pot. So Nube decides

1006
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:20.840
to go and check on the mine, and as he goes outside, he

1007
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:27.039
finds these dogs barking at a bloody
box that is the candy box of Dripping

1008
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:29.280
Blood. But there's also a note
on it that it says, you didn't

1009
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:33.880
stop the party. It should have
said, can't stop the party. I

1010
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:38.119
just want to know where Harry's rhymes
when he got lazy. No, he

1011
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:41.159
totally got lazy. I think he
just he was like, I got this,

1012
01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:45.119
and then when they started partying,
he was like, shit, you

1013
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:49.480
didn't stop the party. Already returned
the rhyming dictionary to the library. So

1014
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:51.960
Nubi is like, you know what, damn party? What's going on?

1015
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:57.519
Axel is uh back at the party
and he or Axle is getting too handsy

1016
01:04:57.519 --> 01:04:59.599
with Sarah back at the party,
and Sarah's had it and she's like,

1017
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:00.880
you know, why don't you just
leave me alone? TJ says, you

1018
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:02.960
know, why don't you listen to
her? Axel says, why don't you

1019
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:05.280
mind your own business? And that's
when he tells him that Sarah's gonna go

1020
01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:09.639
with him when he leaves town again. But Sarah did not say that,

1021
01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:11.679
and she's like, you know,
I have my own mouth. The two

1022
01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:14.400
of them get into a fight again. Hollis has to break them up this

1023
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:16.719
time and he throws Axel out.
Yeah, Hollis just grabs them both by

1024
01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:20.239
the next and she's like, nah, yeah, will you guys cut this

1025
01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:24.840
shit out? I love that scene. Hollis is like one of my favorite

1026
01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:28.360
characters in this But so Axel takes
a beer, he goes outside, he

1027
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:30.559
finds a corner and he just sits
down, and TJ goes back to Sarah

1028
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:33.000
like trying to smooth things over,
and she just tells me, I don't

1029
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:36.360
care anymore like you. You both
are wearing me out. I'm done.

1030
01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:40.639
So she walks away from him,
and uh. At that point, we

1031
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:44.599
find out that John and Sylvia are
in the mind shower room, which,

1032
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:48.599
uh, by the way, yeah, that mind shower room, Like you

1033
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:51.519
ain't clean when you step out of
that filth pit. Nah, I'm just

1034
01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:56.920
I'm just saying, like that is
strictly forgetting soot and memories off of you.

1035
01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:00.159
Everything else is coming out with you. To give you a perspective on

1036
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:01.599
the shower room too. All the
suits, all the miner suits, are

1037
01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:04.760
hanging above them on these hooks that
they have to pull down to release so

1038
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:09.960
they basically fall down completely onto them, which which makes perfect sense because you

1039
01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:12.480
know, if you have a room
full of steamed water, why not make

1040
01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:17.679
all of the miners close slightly moist? That makes sense. And I bet

1041
01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:23.760
it smells good. Yeah, oh, the smells and sights of the mind.

1042
01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:27.119
So John shows Sylvia how to get
the suits down by pulling a rope,

1043
01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:29.519
and that's when she says, you
know what, I you know what

1044
01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:30.119
we need. He's like, I
got it right here, and he pulls

1045
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:33.079
out a condom and she's like,
no, a couple of beers. John

1046
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:35.280
offers to go get the beers.
Sylvia offers to go with them, but

1047
01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:39.719
she stays behind. And that's when
she's just hanging out. She starts to

1048
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:42.280
hear some noises. Want me to
go with you? No, no,

1049
01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:45.519
no, your cannon fodder. Yeah, just stay here. So she starts

1050
01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:47.039
to hear some noises. She thinks
that it's John returning, and then all

1051
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:49.800
of a sudden, the suits just
start dropping one by one, and then

1052
01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:53.679
several start dropping the time, and
then all of them start coming down,

1053
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:57.199
and one drops down and it turns
out to be Happy's corpse. Yep.

1054
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.760
And again, like I said,
the excellent choice of the minor outfit.

1055
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:04.079
Yeah, you are misled constantly.
Every one of them that drops. You

1056
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:05.960
have that little moment where you're like, is that the killer? Is that

1057
01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:10.079
the killer? Is that the killer? Yeah, it's good stuff. There's

1058
01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:13.039
a lot of high I mean,
granted, this is in the realm of

1059
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:15.519
those slasher movies from the Slasher Boom. This is a higher budget, it

1060
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:19.239
absolutely is, and it definitely had
a lot of higher concept gags and things

1061
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:23.000
like that, so at least they
took advantage of their budget to some extent.

1062
01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:26.920
Yeah. So Sylvia of course runs
into Happy's corpse and she's screaming,

1063
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:29.840
and that's when Harry comes out.
He grabs her, picks her up,

1064
01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:33.159
and walks her over to the shower
and he impales her on a pipe of

1065
01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:39.360
the shower system. And how and
how you did not see this at all

1066
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:42.280
in the theatrical cut. You see
him pick her up and walk her over,

1067
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:45.159
and then when John finds her,
you just see that one shot of

1068
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:47.400
the water and like coming, which
which I have to say though, that

1069
01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:50.920
is a pretty good theater of the
mind gag. It absolutely is. Yeah,

1070
01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:54.960
So he impales her and you know
she's just spitting blood. It hits

1071
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:58.239
his shoes and she's just twitching and
then he turns the water on it and

1072
01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:00.400
starts blasting out of her mouth.
Yeah it's a good gag. It's a

1073
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:03.920
solid gag. Oh man, it's
vicious, it's brutal. So Sylvia is

1074
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:09.679
now dead in the shower and John
is back and the party and the girls

1075
01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:12.199
are fishing out the hot dogs,
putting more water in for the boil,

1076
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.079
and they end up pulling out a
boiled heart. And it does look like

1077
01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:18.800
a boiled heart. It does look
like gray and gross. And of course

1078
01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:21.880
John is like, oh, those
guys as he's opening the fridge to get

1079
01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:26.439
beer and there's Dave's corpse just sitting
in the fridge, which he does see.

1080
01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:28.880
See, Yeah, doesn't see.
I mean, you know, I'm

1081
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:30.359
sure, but I was wondering why
the franks tasted like, you know,

1082
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:34.640
slightly better. Yeah, because they
were they were cooked in broth. So

1083
01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:38.520
John goes back to Sylvia, returns
with this beer. Of course, thinking

1084
01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:41.079
that she's in the shower, he
gets excited, goes into the shower and

1085
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:44.680
finds her body and just starts freaking
out. Meanwhile, Nubie is on his

1086
01:08:44.720 --> 01:08:47.520
way to the mind, but Rally
calls in from the institution and they radio

1087
01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:50.239
him to come take the call.
So he turns back around right as he

1088
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:55.479
gets to the mine, and he
just misses the broken padlock by that much.

1089
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:58.000
Yeah, yeah, no, I
love that. I love that so

1090
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:00.520
much. So Patty sways, Hollis
that to make Sarah better, why don't

1091
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:04.159
we take a trip down to the
mine? Why not go into the mind?

1092
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:10.760
I go two hundred feet underground,
guys, Why wouldn't we do that?

1093
01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:16.000
Guys? So Michael, Harriet,
Hollis, Patty and Sarah all decide

1094
01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:17.920
that they're gonna take a trip down
to the mine, but they're gonna come

1095
01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:21.079
right back up because TJ stops them. Yeah, TJ stops them. He's

1096
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:23.920
like, you know, there's no
you know, the rule no girls in

1097
01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:27.399
the mine. Which it's like,
what is this a boat? Is this

1098
01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:30.560
a maritime ship from like nineteen sixteen
hundreds? No women on the boat?

1099
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:32.840
So Hollis, where's you know?
We're gonna take a ride and we'll come

1100
01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:36.319
right back up. So they go
down and they get their blankets, they

1101
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:40.800
get their little their little helmets,
and they get, of course the beer,

1102
01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:42.800
because that's one of my favorite lines
is as they're leaving, they're like,

1103
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:44.720
yo, what about Geary's Yeah,
yeah, grab that six pack?

1104
01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:46.840
Yeah, well don't we need gear
Yeah, you're right, grab that six

1105
01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:49.520
pack. It was a great line. So they go down into the mine,

1106
01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:53.119
and of course once they get down
there, well they want a tour.

1107
01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:56.479
So Hollis is persuaded by the women
for them to have a tour of

1108
01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:59.479
the mine. If by persuaded you
mean they asked one time yes, and

1109
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:01.159
he was like cool, just like
climbed out. He just wanted to.

1110
01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:04.680
Yeah, you hadn't care. So
they start going off and he's showing off

1111
01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:09.760
the mine. Meanwhile, Michael and
Harriet hole hideout in the old engine room

1112
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:13.960
because they're gonna have some nice sex. Are you sure about it being nice

1113
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:24.199
sex? Back at the party,
Dave's body is discovered as one of the

1114
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:27.079
women comes screaming out of the room, and just as that happens, John

1115
01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:30.520
returns, falling into the door,
frantic at finding Sylvia's body. That's when

1116
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:32.560
Axle goes back, finds Dave's body
in the back and he runs back out

1117
01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:35.600
and he says, Dave's dead.
Harry Warden's here, Everybody, get the

1118
01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:40.439
fuck out. Go go another great
lie. He just everybody get the fuck

1119
01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:44.119
out, and the party just clears
out. Yeah, except for the kids

1120
01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:47.079
who are in the fuck in the
mine. And that's of course when TJ

1121
01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:49.680
tells Axel that the others are down
in the mine. So they decide to

1122
01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:53.600
get their gear on and they're gonna
race down there and find them. Meanwhile,

1123
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:56.079
down there, Hollis is broken away
from Sarah and Patty. He does

1124
01:10:56.119 --> 01:10:58.760
a little light scare on them,
gets them to jump, and he's walking

1125
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:01.159
back talking about the old Anchel parts
of the mine, and Howard drops down

1126
01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:04.600
from one of the ceilings that he's
hiding in and scares Hollis. Of course,

1127
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:08.880
of course, so the gang.
Then here's a shattering of lights as

1128
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:11.399
we see Harry Warden down one of
the tunnels, just breaking the lights of

1129
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:15.520
the pick accident, really highlight.
Yeah, he's just walking down swinging the

1130
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:17.479
accent of the light. And my
favorite is that he misses one and then

1131
01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:21.560
has to try again. It's like
what that helmet reducing your vision there a

1132
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:25.880
little bit. So of course,
everybody is fleeing from the mines now,

1133
01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:29.399
which means they're going back into town. Axel told, I think it was,

1134
01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:31.520
Oh God, who is I think
it's John or one of them.

1135
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:34.000
He tells one of the guys,
Tommy. He tells Tommy to go find

1136
01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:36.720
Nubie and tell him that Harry Warden
is here. So we see Nuby getting

1137
01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:41.199
ready to leave. Tommy's car is
swerving all over the road and Nuby gets

1138
01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:42.800
out to start shooting a new one
and that's when he's like, no,

1139
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.800
Harry Warden's at the mine. He's
killed David. Sylvia like, you got

1140
01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:47.960
to get down there. So Nuby
goes and races down to the mine.

1141
01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:50.920
Meanwhile, TJ locates the group in
the mind, telling them that Sylvia and

1142
01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:55.119
Dave is dead. Hollis then goes
to check on Mike and Harriet, leaving

1143
01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:58.600
Howard with the girls. And at
this point I'm gonna take a second to

1144
01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:01.760
read an excerpt from the book,
because at this point Hollis finds the bodies

1145
01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:04.920
of Mike and Harriet. Okay,
so this is wow, did you like

1146
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:09.960
put a bookmark in and everything?
I did? Wow? Okay, So

1147
01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:14.680
this is a official reading, yes, of the My Bloody Valentine novelization.

1148
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:18.239
So leather gloves, leather gloved hands
gripped onto the eight foot Augur drill and

1149
01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:21.319
hoisted it up in silence. The
miner was cloaked in darkness as he moved

1150
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:26.000
within the shadows. Harriet wrapped her
hands around Mike's neck and pulled his ear

1151
01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:28.680
down to her mouth. I want
to stay like this forever, she whispered

1152
01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:31.520
passionately. Me too, he said, in breathless desire. The sharp bar

1153
01:12:31.640 --> 01:12:35.359
hovered directly over Mike and Harriet,
mimicking their movement. The bar was given

1154
01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:40.279
a powerful downward thrust. The auger
tore savagely into Mike's back, and he

1155
01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:43.319
arched upward. The tool might have
torn all the way through him if he

1156
01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:45.000
had gone in just a half foot
lower, but it got lodged in the

1157
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:49.199
tough muscle of his heart. The
bar was large hackle screw, and it

1158
01:12:49.239 --> 01:12:53.479
was turned by hands, slicing a
circular path through anything in its way.

1159
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:57.720
Mike registered that something had gone a
recklelly wrong. Lost in his first act

1160
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:02.840
of genuine penetration, he found himself
on the receipt. Harriet's eyes were closed

1161
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:06.000
as she dealt with the intensity of
Mike's latest thrust, harder than the rest,

1162
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:10.439
coming to a stop deep inside her. His pressure was so great and

1163
01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:15.479
pleasurable, it was almost painful.
As she moaned in response, she felt

1164
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:17.840
him drooling into her mouth. Harriet
opened her eyes and saw a long line

1165
01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:21.960
of bloody saliva hanging out of Mike's
mouth. His eyes opened wide and shot.

1166
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:26.199
Her mouth opened wider in horror,
and that's when Mike gushed to stream

1167
01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:28.880
of blood into her mouth. The
spurt made her gag, while the blood

1168
01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:31.319
that splashed her eyes blinded her.
The augur erupted and spun out of Mike's

1169
01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:35.239
chest and tore into Harriet's destroying her
mother's first date dress. With ease twice

1170
01:13:35.279 --> 01:13:39.399
impaled and under the great pressure,
she could only squirm in worsening agony.

1171
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:43.319
Mike and Harriet's eyes locked in their
final moments. They did not understand why

1172
01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:45.399
they were being punished with this death, but they would depart life from the

1173
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:48.920
height of pleasure and fall straight into
the cold eternity of the grave together.

1174
01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:56.079
Aw Okay, that's at least romantic. Guess the reason I read that is

1175
01:13:56.119 --> 01:13:59.960
because so that scene is unfortunately lost. That was a scene they did shoot,

1176
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.399
and Milhawka did talk about exactly that
happening. So when I read that

1177
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:04.439
in the book, and of course
he has the forward written in the book

1178
01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:06.640
as well. I was like,
damn, that scene would have been kind

1179
01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:12.239
of cool to see Hill sick as
hell. Sick as hell. Indeed,

1180
01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:15.439
So Hollis finds their bodies and unfortunately
he gets ambushed by Harry Warden with a

1181
01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:19.880
nail gun and he gets one right
in the temple as his minor helmet falls

1182
01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:23.000
off, he goes to put it
back on, and that's when Harry Warden

1183
01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:26.600
steps out puts it right in this
temple. And this scene is so brutal.

1184
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:28.960
Yeah. Yeah, you would think
that getting shot in the head with

1185
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:31.680
bolts would be a quick death.
Yeah. Nah, they went realistic on

1186
01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:34.760
it. So it uh, it's
drawn out. It's drawn out. You

1187
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:39.279
get painful, the fuzzy vision and
you see the camera from his POV.

1188
01:14:39.479 --> 01:14:42.640
So blood starts to form because on
the second shot he gets them right between

1189
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:45.279
the eyes and blood starts to form, and you've got a ringing and you

1190
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:49.560
just see Hollis days as he stumbling
out. So he gets away from Harry

1191
01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:54.000
Warden and he stumbles dead right in
front of Patty and Sarah and Howard,

1192
01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:58.000
and of course the group just freaks
out. Well, I mean wouldn't you

1193
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:11.600
Yeah, do you Even? Movie? Will be right back, Welcome back

1194
01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:18.159
to do You Even? Movie?
So suddenly Harry starts coming at them from

1195
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:21.479
the other side. Howard runs off
and Harry chases after him, and Sarah

1196
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:25.640
has to make Patty slap out of
it because Patty is hysterical at this point.

1197
01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:28.000
This is her boyfriend. She was
just like she was on a roll,

1198
01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:30.720
like Eddie Murphy, just like getting
the crowd go, oh you bet.

1199
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:33.239
She was scared, scared sorry,
So she's scared, locked up and

1200
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:35.039
you know, Sarah's trying to shake
her, and she's like, you know,

1201
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:38.119
we have to keep going, and
she's like no, like I have

1202
01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:41.560
to stay with him. Suddenly she
just slaps her and that brings her back

1203
01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:44.239
out of it, gives her one
a good one right across the face.

1204
01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:47.720
Yeah, So Sarah gets a slap
on to Patty and Patty finally gets up.

1205
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:50.399
Axel then finds the girls and leads
them off and they hear something,

1206
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:55.000
thinking that it's Harry. Axel then
clocks in with the log and they decide

1207
01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:58.800
that they're going to head to the
top and that's where they're going to find

1208
01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:00.920
the help. Because they get to
the elevators and realize that they are broken.

1209
01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:06.560
Ah, that means y'all gonna have
to climb. They're gonna have to

1210
01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:10.640
climb, And right as that happens, Nuby also arrives at the Mind and

1211
01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:14.079
finds the elevator busted as well,
so they decide again that they're gonna take

1212
01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:15.840
the ladder. So we see them
climbing up, and of course Patty is

1213
01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:19.399
struggling because she's afraid of heights,
to which I said, but you're not

1214
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:23.680
going up, you're going up to
where you live live. Yeah, you're

1215
01:16:23.720 --> 01:16:26.680
below sea level. It's not the
same, but no, she's just so

1216
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:30.680
scared of falling seventy feet into the
mouth. So we just have Axel,

1217
01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:33.199
Patty, and Sarah on this ladder
as they're climbing up. So Howard and

1218
01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:38.279
TJ are both missing by this point, and Patty stalls at the ladder one

1219
01:16:38.279 --> 01:16:40.520
time, and that's when Axles,
like you know, Sarah help her up

1220
01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:43.199
and he ends up slipping on the
rung grabbing a rope, and then what

1221
01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:46.720
do you know, Howard's body falls
from the top of this steep and lands

1222
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:50.359
right in front of Patty and decapitates
as he hangs on the rope. Yeah.

1223
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:54.560
Yeah, the rope around his neck
caused his head to rip clean,

1224
01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:59.159
which right off sprays Patty with blood. It is gruesome, very greas like

1225
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:02.800
next level ghos. And of course
again you did barely see this in the

1226
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:05.439
theatrical, but you didn't see the
head hanging on the rope as they have

1227
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:08.640
in that one shot. You didn't
see the body fall. Yeah, the

1228
01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:11.640
body fall was griss, but the
head hanging like they they made it look

1229
01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:14.520
like it ripped off, like there
was a lot of flesh left over and

1230
01:17:14.560 --> 01:17:16.119
stuff. It was nasty. So
Howard is now dead, and of course

1231
01:17:16.119 --> 01:17:18.000
they're like, okay, well fuck
this, we gotta go back down.

1232
01:17:18.840 --> 01:17:23.439
So they get down and they start
to decide what where they're going to go

1233
01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:26.720
next, and they climb back down. As I said that, they have

1234
01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:30.039
a shortcut around some high water area
is where Axle's gonna lead them. He's

1235
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:30.680
like, come on, I got
a way week and go. So he

1236
01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:34.039
tells TJ to take the girls across
and let him know when it's safe to

1237
01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:36.680
come across. TJ gets the girls
across and he's like, okay, all

1238
01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:40.800
come on forward. We hear a
thud, we hear a splash. They

1239
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:44.399
rush over and they see a broken
piece of like I guess not fencing,

1240
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:46.359
but it's a rail rail, yeah, a broken piece of rail, and

1241
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:48.159
they're like, you know, you
got to help him. As we see

1242
01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:53.359
TJ's or axles hat just sink slowly
in the surface. I love how as

1243
01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:57.479
everybody's being murdered, they hear ah
yes, and they go, what was

1244
01:17:57.479 --> 01:18:00.399
that? It was your friend being
murdered? What do you think it was

1245
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:03.359
at this point? So Sarah's like, you gotta help on and he's like,

1246
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:06.680
I can't. There's nothing I can
do. It's it's sixty feet deep,

1247
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:11.920
yeah, which is you know that's
over ten feet deep? Just over

1248
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:16.079
ten feet I am the lifestyle guide
of the program. So that's the truth.

1249
01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:18.640
TJ then leaves the girls to a
section. He tells me to fall

1250
01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:20.880
on the wall. He'll catch up
to them. So he goes around a

1251
01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:24.920
corner and then we hear another thud
and we hear some cavan and they don't

1252
01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:28.840
hear anything from him, So Sarah
and Patty reached the cart tunnel. Patty

1253
01:18:28.920 --> 01:18:31.079
is then ambushed by Harry in one
of the most brutal blows from the pick

1254
01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:34.239
axe right into her gut right in
the middle of her stomach, right in

1255
01:18:34.279 --> 01:18:39.600
the middle, and he just lets
her sink down as she's just looking at

1256
01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:43.000
him dying. And it's really sad
too, because I like Patty. Oh,

1257
01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:45.079
Like, it's really sad because I
value that one human life in this

1258
01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:48.760
movie. Everybody else had it comment
or what else. So Sarah then runs

1259
01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:51.800
away, and as she's doing that, we see the cavalry arrive at the

1260
01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:55.640
mines. Because one thing I forgot
to mention is that when Newby decides he's

1261
01:18:55.640 --> 01:18:59.000
gonna go to the mine, he
calls for all men to meet him at

1262
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:02.079
Hanniger Mind, which all available men
makes sense in the scheme of a very

1263
01:19:02.079 --> 01:19:04.560
small town. Yeah, it's just
like every able body, man, we

1264
01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:09.520
need you now. So TJ finds
Sarah as Harry appears again on their trail.

1265
01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:12.399
TJ starts the mind carts up and
they both climb in, and Harry

1266
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.399
also climbs in. We have a
little bit of a fight between a shovel

1267
01:19:15.399 --> 01:19:18.159
and a pickaxe, which is pretty
fun because TJ's just like trying to dodge

1268
01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:21.000
the blows Harry's riding on it.
It was like it was like a like

1269
01:19:21.039 --> 01:19:27.760
a cheesy sword fight. That remember
watching with Perry frust frust so Harry still

1270
01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:30.319
behind them, we see that everybody
started to enter the mind now, so

1271
01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:33.000
the cavalry's arriving once again. They
make their way down the tracks and TJ

1272
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:36.279
fins off Harry and gets a shovel
with the pick axe knocks it out.

1273
01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:40.680
They jump off the cart and go
into a side chaft pocket. The three

1274
01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:44.560
fight for a little bit and we
see that the Harry Warden gets his pick

1275
01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:46.520
axe stuck in a side He draws
out a blade and as this happens,

1276
01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:49.760
Sarah decides that she's going to distract
him and she goes up rips off his

1277
01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:55.520
mask, revealing that the killer is
Axel. This entire time, it's our

1278
01:19:55.560 --> 01:20:00.159
boy, the mister all American blondie
over there. He has gone mad.

1279
01:20:00.239 --> 01:20:02.880
He has gone gone mad. So
that's when we see a flashback of Harry

1280
01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:06.960
murdering one of the supervisors, and
we see that Axel is the kid that

1281
01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:10.920
is also now in the slashback,
revealing that it was his father as one

1282
01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:14.239
of the supervisors that got killed and
has heart ripped out. And not only

1283
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:16.039
that, but then when they show
it the second time, Yeah, when

1284
01:20:16.039 --> 01:20:19.239
the little kids looking on scart.
They splashed right in the middle of the

1285
01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:24.479
kid's face, which, by the
way, like they just they let that

1286
01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:27.800
kid have it. So then they
show the kid laying there. It's actually

1287
01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:30.720
really effective. They show him like
laying under the patonic like yeah, catatonic

1288
01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:34.039
exactly the word. Yeah, just
staring their wide open eye. And now

1289
01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:40.439
we realize that, like all good
slasher horror eighties tropes, it all started

1290
01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:45.199
with a little kid witnessing something horrible
but rama bonding. But for once,

1291
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:47.640
it wasn't the the miner, you
know, sleeping with his mom that there

1292
01:20:47.720 --> 01:20:51.039
is that yere is that Well maybe
in the book it's different. We'll get

1293
01:20:51.039 --> 01:20:56.079
there. So as she pulls the
mask out and Axel is revealed to be

1294
01:20:56.119 --> 01:20:59.199
the killer, the side caves in
as the pickaxe is pulled out Axel and

1295
01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:02.119
Axel gets crushed, and TJ and
Sarah escape out the side. Just as

1296
01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:05.600
Nubie and the Mayor show up.
TJ tells him that it wasn't Harry Warden.

1297
01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:09.279
He's like, I know it wasn't. The institution called me Harry Warden

1298
01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:14.000
died five years ago. Yeah,
and now we know, and he goes

1299
01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:15.760
his Axel and of course the Bear's
like, oh, well, it was

1300
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:20.119
on Valentine's Day twenty years ago that
Harry Warden killed Axel's father in front of

1301
01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:23.960
him. Yeah, in front of
him. Huh, this information might have

1302
01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:28.199
been useful. Crazy. So the
men start to go to dig Axel out,

1303
01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:30.920
and they move one rock away and
they find a hand moving, so

1304
01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:33.159
the guy shouts, he's alive.
Meanwhile, Sarah and TJ have made their

1305
01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:36.079
way down the tunnel. But Sarah, hearing this, runs back because she

1306
01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:40.079
has to know she has to check, and she wants to hold his hand,

1307
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:43.720
and it's very clearly his hand because
it's what he's wearing, his ring.

1308
01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:46.239
He has this this like onyx black
ring. Yeah, so she tries

1309
01:21:46.279 --> 01:21:49.800
to touch the hand and at that
moment it crabs sure, which I love

1310
01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:55.199
that gag. But then we punch
into underneath all of the wreckage, which

1311
01:21:55.239 --> 01:21:58.399
is not in the theatrical. You
do not see any of the cutting.

1312
01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:00.880
That was the reveal when she pulled
away the arm, which is I kind

1313
01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:04.319
of would have been more shocked.
Yeah, yeah, because you see Axel

1314
01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:08.640
just hacking away at his arm with
Yeah, he's cutting his own arm off,

1315
01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:11.720
like like he's in one hundred and
twenty seven hours. Yeah, so

1316
01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:14.399
she goes to pull on his hand. Of course the arm comes free and

1317
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:16.359
everybody screams. She drops the arm, and that's when Axel swears hervenge.

1318
01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:19.520
She goes, Hanniger, I'll be
waiting in hell for you, and this

1319
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:23.760
whole fucking town is going to die. We're coming back you. And he

1320
01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:28.920
just starts kind of scooting away,
going through some random mind tunnel that nobody

1321
01:22:28.960 --> 01:22:31.199
can access. Yeah, and he's
gonna bleed to death. Oh yeah,

1322
01:22:32.079 --> 01:22:38.199
since well correction, due to box
office, he bleeds to death. If

1323
01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:42.359
the box office had been bigger,
he would have figured it out. Yeah.

1324
01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:45.439
So he starts running off and he
tells her. He says, Harry,

1325
01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:47.960
Harry, I'm coming This whole fucking
town's gonna burn. We're coming back,

1326
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:53.319
you, bastards. Sarah be my
bloody Valentine. Ah, And then

1327
01:22:53.359 --> 01:22:59.399
he ends it with a little song
of Daddy Gone away, Harry what and

1328
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:02.319
made you pay? And then he
laughs and that, my friends, is

1329
01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:06.800
my bloody Valentine, which is not
technically over because we get a lovely ballad

1330
01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:10.840
of Harry Warden by Paul's Asa that
is a folk song that I have grown

1331
01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:14.359
to really like I am aware.
I was too busy. I was trying

1332
01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:17.760
to throw you off by singing cold
warm side of the Door, just so

1333
01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:21.399
you wouldn't be able to get it
stuck in my head. But no that

1334
01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:26.760
and and I will say, so
something I'd forgotten is that ending as strong

1335
01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:30.840
as hell? Oh yeah, it's
creepy and it like I said, if

1336
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:32.760
only the box office had been a
little stronger, he might have survived,

1337
01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:38.319
survived to kill more teenagers in another
year or two. So would you like

1338
01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:42.039
to know some interesting additions to the
novelization that we're not in this film?

1339
01:23:42.079 --> 01:23:45.640
Hell yeah, all right, so
novelization reveals that we're not on screen.

1340
01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:48.439
So Axel chose to murder Stella Sagar
was her name in the beginning, and

1341
01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:53.920
Mabel because they were the two that
were responsible for bringing the Valentine's Day dance

1342
01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:56.319
back. Okay, well that makes
sense. Yeah, but yeah, because

1343
01:23:56.319 --> 01:24:00.960
we don't know who that girl.
Yeah, so Harry Warden also real quick,

1344
01:24:00.439 --> 01:24:03.239
Axel makes perfect sense as the killer
too, because now you know that

1345
01:24:03.239 --> 01:24:05.600
that's the reason the girl went in
the mind with him, because Axel was

1346
01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:09.199
a young, pretty good looking guy. Yeah, no, he is absolutely

1347
01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:13.800
Why don't you talk more about how
much you liked so Harry Warden. One

1348
01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:15.560
thing that they did in the My
Bloody Valentine to two thousand and nine remake

1349
01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:18.000
that I really feel like they don't
touch on as much in here is that

1350
01:24:18.039 --> 01:24:24.760
Harry Warden straight up murdered those men
to cannibalize them. Okay, yeah,

1351
01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:27.840
he went crazy, like he put
pick axes in their head, He put

1352
01:24:28.279 --> 01:24:30.680
pick axes in their rectums, like, no joke, like this is in

1353
01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:34.119
the book. He went full psychopath
and cannibal murdering the whole team shortly after

1354
01:24:34.119 --> 01:24:36.920
the collapse. But that caused him
to go crazy because with the collapse,

1355
01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:42.119
they were just in darkness. Yeah, no sound, complete darkness start,

1356
01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:45.319
you know, they started to get
hungry and everything. So he just lost

1357
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:48.000
in South America, they can last
like two weeks apparently. Do you remember

1358
01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:50.039
that. I can't remember the name
of that movie I watched that was about

1359
01:24:50.039 --> 01:24:55.000
that mind collapse though it had lou
Diamond Phillips and it was very very good.

1360
01:24:55.119 --> 01:24:58.239
But it looks starkly dark and dark
dark. Yeah, but yeah,

1361
01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:00.439
they're stuck in total darkness. Yeah, so that made him go crazy.

1362
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:02.960
Evidence of this is found, Like
I said, happy is the one to

1363
01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:05.960
find him in the movie, and
both the book and Happy relates that they

1364
01:25:06.039 --> 01:25:10.880
found pick axes in the craniums of
the miners and the rectums. They that

1365
01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:14.600
he also had used them as human
toilets, so he had actually what the

1366
01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:16.159
hell, Yeah, he had actually
done some really fucked up things to the

1367
01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:20.039
courses. I like it better without
that. Yeah, I get it,

1368
01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:24.760
though. It's kind of like like
when they wret not that this is a

1369
01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:28.640
ret con. It's kind of like
when they wret conned things like the zombie

1370
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:30.359
at the beginning of Living Dead in
the thirtieth n Thednuscery edition, how it

1371
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:34.039
was like, now he's a childbirdirl, so it's like he's already scary.

1372
01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:36.399
I liked it more when it was
like, we don't know what happened in

1373
01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:39.399
that mine, but when we found
him, he was stark, raving,

1374
01:25:39.479 --> 01:25:45.479
mad eat human flesh. That I
think is scarier personally. But yeah,

1375
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:49.520
So Happy actually goes to see Harry
at the institution. Oh, that's nice

1376
01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:53.319
of him, and he gets attacked
by Harry and has a chunk of his

1377
01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:56.239
arm bitten out. That's less nice
of him, because he talks to him

1378
01:25:56.239 --> 01:25:58.279
and Harry says one sentence. I
can't remember what it was. It was

1379
01:25:58.279 --> 01:26:00.760
something like why did you come?
Like? Why did you come here?

1380
01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:02.000
Basically is what it was. So
he gets one sentence out of him and

1381
01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:04.600
then he attacks him, and that's
when Happy he decides to a never go

1382
01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:08.520
back in the mine again fair and
that he's going to start a new business.

1383
01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:11.479
So he goes into that bar business
of the cage with his buddy and

1384
01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:14.520
that's when he just basically lives at
the bar from that point on. Well,

1385
01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:17.760
I I'm not a drinker, but
I might be after that. Yeah.

1386
01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:21.840
So Harry's murder of the second supervisor
because we only see the first supervisor

1387
01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:26.279
in the movie. He killed the
second supervisor on the toilet and he hit

1388
01:26:26.359 --> 01:26:29.039
him right in the head with a
pick axe. Oh well, that's you

1389
01:26:29.079 --> 01:26:30.720
know, getting some filing done.
And then you know to the point where

1390
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:34.640
they report in the book that the
coroner actually found not only blood but also

1391
01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:38.399
a little bit of cranium inside the
toilet bowl by the time that they were

1392
01:26:38.439 --> 01:26:42.760
examining him. Gross. Yeah,
I know. TJ's reason to leave California,

1393
01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:45.000
as I said, is he wanted
to be an actor. They mentioned

1394
01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:47.479
a couple of shows that he like
was in the background of one of which

1395
01:26:47.479 --> 01:26:53.880
being MOREK and Mindy Noo. Yeah. So Sarah's walk home, there's actually

1396
01:26:53.920 --> 01:26:57.760
a scene where she's walking past the
cemetery and Harry Warden actually rises up from

1397
01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:00.359
one of the tombstones because he's tapping
his pick axe on the thing, which

1398
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:01.960
is what gets her attention. And
shortly after that she ran into Nubie,

1399
01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:04.119
which I thought was kind of a
cool visual that I could have seen.

1400
01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:08.520
Okay, yeah, I would dig
that. Yeah. TJ and Axle's friendship

1401
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:11.800
long time, like I said,
like I said earlier, long time.

1402
01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:15.039
They had been friends since they were
young kids. They would go to that

1403
01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:17.760
junk yard all the time. One
instance in particular, I can't believe I'm

1404
01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:20.319
gonna say this. Oh man,
this is in the book go On,

1405
01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:23.760
Double d go On. So in
the book, at the junk yard,

1406
01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:28.479
one day they open a trunk and
they find a stack of hardcore porno mags

1407
01:27:28.760 --> 01:27:32.600
nice and they basically have a masturbation
contest to the magazines at the junkyard.

1408
01:27:32.720 --> 01:27:38.279
Well, it's important to keep in
mind that the best part about a masturbation

1409
01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:43.680
contest is everyone win. Everyone.
One of the things that I really really

1410
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:46.159
liked at the end that I wish
was in the movie is right around the

1411
01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:50.479
time that they go into that side
patch. That's where Stella's murdered body is.

1412
01:27:50.520 --> 01:27:54.520
That's where he murdered her. As
oh okay, and they of course

1413
01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:57.239
by this point she's been down there
a couple of days, so there's rats

1414
01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:00.359
and stuff. But there is an
introduction of a character in the book that's

1415
01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:02.439
a dog that they call Bier,
and Bier is one of the dogs that's

1416
01:28:02.439 --> 01:28:05.880
barking at the heart that the chief
finds outside the station. Right at this

1417
01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:10.479
point, Bier comes up down from
comes down into the mine, and he

1418
01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:15.119
starts gnawing on Stella's corpse. Well, good boy, yeah, I actually

1419
01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:18.239
I take that back Patty's corpse okay, yeah, and he charges at Harry

1420
01:28:18.239 --> 01:28:21.920
at one point DJ never noticed that
his friend was like cuckoo Bananes apparently never

1421
01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:25.760
noticed that he was like completely insane
ever since that one, you know,

1422
01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:29.479
okay, fair apparently not. So
that is just a couple of instances of

1423
01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:31.359
the book. Again, I cannot
recommend this stuff if you're a fan of

1424
01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:35.840
novelizations. This just came out a
while back. Unfortunately, it's not one

1425
01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:40.239
you're gonna be super easy to find. Stop the Killer is the company that

1426
01:28:40.279 --> 01:28:44.199
put it out, with some affiliation
from a publisher. Stop the Killer is

1427
01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:45.560
a great company right now putting out
board. They put out some cool stuff

1428
01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:48.720
I got. I got the Silent
Deadly Night book from them. Yeah,

1429
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:51.880
so yeah, definitely one to look
out for if you can find it right

1430
01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:55.119
now. I will tell you.
They also do have a pre order up

1431
01:28:55.119 --> 01:28:58.319
for Happy Birthday and me he's getting
a novelization an sol a player game,

1432
01:28:59.239 --> 01:29:01.600
shoot a game of Happy Birthday.
Okay, fair enough, all right,

1433
01:29:01.720 --> 01:29:04.039
So would you like to know some
fun facts as we bring this to a

1434
01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:09.039
close. No, too bad,
damn. So the box office was five

1435
01:29:09.119 --> 01:29:12.920
point seven million against a two point
three million dollar budget, which two point

1436
01:29:12.960 --> 01:29:15.800
three million is a lot for a
little slasher like this. Yeah, I

1437
01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:18.159
am surprised by that. Released on
February eleventh, nineteen eighty one, So

1438
01:29:18.199 --> 01:29:20.960
they were right around Valentine's Day when
this came out. Makes sense, I

1439
01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:24.319
mean, and there's not a lot
of competition at that time of year.

1440
01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:27.840
But uh, I know that they
were underwhelmed by the They were hoping for

1441
01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:30.399
another Friday of the thirteen. They
absolutely makes sense. Paramount you know what

1442
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:33.279
you're right. If you want lightning, just put it in a bottle so

1443
01:29:33.319 --> 01:29:38.560
you can open the bottle anytime you
want lightning, right two and two thousand

1444
01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:42.560
and three, Milhawka actually approached Paramount
to do a sequel, and because of

1445
01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:45.279
the poor return, they just weren't
interested. In two thousand and three they

1446
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:47.079
were also probably like, who are
you? What is this movie you're talking

1447
01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:50.840
about? We made what? Yeah? So another fun fact is the location

1448
01:29:50.920 --> 01:29:55.920
of the Sydney mines Nova Scotia were
chosen because of its rustic atmospheric appearance,

1449
01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:59.239
but when the locals found out that
the movie was being shot there, they

1450
01:29:59.279 --> 01:30:03.520
spent fifty eighty thousand dollars to have
The Mind painted and cleaned up so that

1451
01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:09.760
when production return. When production returned, this diminished the reason for that production

1452
01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:13.840
one of the locations. So,
according to Lilahaka, seventy five thousand dollars

1453
01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:15.600
of the film's budget went to putting
The Mind back to its original state.

1454
01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:19.439
So they thought they were helping.
They were like, oh, man,

1455
01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:23.199
if they're gonna, if they're gonna
film in our oh no, sorry,

1456
01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:26.520
hey hey, hey, if they're
gonna, if they get a film in

1457
01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:28.560
our mind, we might want to
make it nice for him. Oh,

1458
01:30:28.600 --> 01:30:32.079
we have very nice Canadians, So
god, that's hilarious. The mines were

1459
01:30:32.119 --> 01:30:35.920
nine hundred feet underground. Only certain
lighting devices could be used in the mines

1460
01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:40.439
due to the potential of methane explosions. Yeah no, that's very serious.

1461
01:30:40.960 --> 01:30:45.239
The legend of Harry Warden credits song
is afterthought by Paul Zaza. That move

1462
01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:46.319
was basically done when they were done
with the movie. They were like,

1463
01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:48.920
we need a catchy songs, so
he put the song in. It was

1464
01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:53.680
done by Scottish Canadian tenor John McDermott, who is uncredited on the song.

1465
01:30:53.720 --> 01:30:57.560
Mind you uh. The film's origin, according to the producers, where they

1466
01:30:57.560 --> 01:31:00.439
wanted a holiday slasher film that had
not been set on on during the slasher

1467
01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:03.479
boom, setting it on Valentine's Day. They named the working title of the

1468
01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:09.439
project The Secret to keep the idea
from anybody copying it. So what you're

1469
01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:13.920
saying is they manifested the movie by
using the Secret. That is exactly a

1470
01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:18.000
ah oprah winfee Listeners makeup designers shift
the dummy corpse to set in a coffin,

1471
01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:21.880
causing much alarm as it hit the
Canadian customs. It would Yeah,

1472
01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:26.520
Yeah, that would happen. The
Hanniger mine is never revealed to be a

1473
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:30.199
specific mind, but many assume it's
a coal mine. It would make sense.

1474
01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:32.279
But there are a lot of mining
operall see. But do we don't

1475
01:31:32.319 --> 01:31:35.000
know that it takes place in Canada? Yeah, because in Canada there's a

1476
01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:38.119
lot of different kinds of mining.
Yeah, but yeah, I would assume

1477
01:31:38.119 --> 01:31:41.439
a coal mine. The cast arrived
a week or two before shooting to get

1478
01:31:41.479 --> 01:31:44.199
the feel for the town and the
lifestyle, allowing them to bond his friends,

1479
01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:46.560
but also found out fast it was
not uncommon for locals to wind up

1480
01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:50.279
with bloody knuckles after heavy nights of
drinking. All right, now we're talking.

1481
01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:53.760
Now we're cooking with gas. And
the last one I have is the

1482
01:31:53.840 --> 01:31:57.880
Killer's identity was kept secret even from
the cast, because the filmmakers liked the

1483
01:31:57.920 --> 01:32:00.479
idea the mystery being real among the
actors. Affleck, though, figured it

1484
01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:03.720
out when he was the killer,
because he went sent to the effects department

1485
01:32:03.760 --> 01:32:06.239
to have himself fitted for a fake
arm that was gonna be torn off in

1486
01:32:06.279 --> 01:32:12.439
the finale. Huh, Well,
who says actors aren't bright? Yeah?

1487
01:32:12.479 --> 01:32:15.640
So that again, my bloody Valentine
did some fun facts with that. I

1488
01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:18.159
mean, what is your final thoughts
on this film andrigue? I mean,

1489
01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:23.960
I definitely. I mean there's no
better other than maybe the remake Ye slasher

1490
01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:28.720
movie. If you want to enjoy
Valentine's Day, perhaps by yourself as an

1491
01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:32.880
edge lord. If you do find
yourself single on Valentine's Day, there are

1492
01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:38.760
worse ways to spend your evening while
eating chicken wings or what have you.

1493
01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:43.239
Yeah, so I do like it
quite a bit. I do look forward

1494
01:32:43.279 --> 01:32:45.760
to revisiting it. Yeah, I
also really do like that remake. Yeah,

1495
01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:51.359
but I would say that it's a
definite rent it although part of me,

1496
01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:56.399
I mean, if you're if you're
a stupid movie fan, then you

1497
01:32:56.439 --> 01:32:59.079
might want to own it just to
watch it every year. Yeah. So

1498
01:32:59.399 --> 01:33:01.079
I gave it a I think this
is one of the best slashers to come

1499
01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:04.640
out of the eighty slasher Boom.
I think it's one of the most fun.

1500
01:33:04.720 --> 01:33:08.560
I don't think it has really any
slow moments. I mean it freaking

1501
01:33:08.960 --> 01:33:12.760
It moves pretty damn fast, and
it has all the pieces you need for

1502
01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:15.079
a good time. The setting is
unsettling and scary because you have the mind

1503
01:33:15.119 --> 01:33:17.199
and you don't have a lot of
movies that take place in them. For

1504
01:33:17.239 --> 01:33:20.399
one, especially horror film. Sure, and I think honestly too, it

1505
01:33:20.479 --> 01:33:25.039
just adds to the uneasiness of it
with the theme town of Valentine Bluffs and

1506
01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:28.399
just the Valentine massacre. I mean
completely different movie, of course, yeah,

1507
01:33:28.439 --> 01:33:31.319
very different, But I mean it's
fun. You have the curse all

1508
01:33:31.479 --> 01:33:34.119
with everything in it, and the
tragedy involved, and the characters, even

1509
01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:36.880
though some of them are pretty stupid, it's still a really fun movie,

1510
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:40.880
and it's a good slasher and it
still holds up. I love this with

1511
01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:44.000
each watch, like every time,
I just love it more. I think

1512
01:33:44.039 --> 01:33:46.800
that's a fair point. So what
are your recommendations to pair this? What's

1513
01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:50.920
a fine pairing so you might you
might appreciate this. I'm gonna go with

1514
01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:58.000
a movie from nineteen ninety one called
Scary Movie. Really paranoid teenager comes to

1515
01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:01.399
believe that an escaped lunatic made hiding
in the neighborhood Halloween House of Horrors and

1516
01:34:01.439 --> 01:34:05.520
slowly starts to descend into madness.
The reason I picked Scary Movie is because

1517
01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:11.239
of the spook house setting and just
overall affiliation of the people and just it's

1518
01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:15.479
it's a horror film. On the
I don't like the slightest turn, I

1519
01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:18.119
guess I would say, because like
I mean, it's on Halloween. There's

1520
01:34:18.199 --> 01:34:21.800
gore ye DAGs and stuff like that. It's it's a very unusual movie,

1521
01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:26.720
yeah, for sure. And it's
like a Texas it's a Texas movie,

1522
01:34:26.720 --> 01:34:29.800
but it's very not rural. Well
it's rural, yeah, but it's very

1523
01:34:30.199 --> 01:34:32.800
it feels very much like those movies
that were made regionally, yeah, in

1524
01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:36.039
America at that time. Yeah,
I think scary movie is I mean you

1525
01:34:36.079 --> 01:34:39.279
and I've watched it a couple times
now. I think it's super underrated.

1526
01:34:39.279 --> 01:34:41.720
I would love to see more eyes
fall on it. And I feel like

1527
01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:45.119
it's a good pairing for this just
because of the overall hangout field the movie,

1528
01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:47.600
because while My Blood Valancini is a
slasher and everything, there's a lot

1529
01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:50.920
of hanging out introducing your characters and
everything. Yeah, yeah, I see

1530
01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:54.159
what you mean. It's kind of
cozy in that way. And remember we're

1531
01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:58.119
talking about scary movie from nineteen ninety
one, not John Wayns brother John Hawks,

1532
01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:00.439
not the Wayans Brothers. And Scary
MOVI movie also another thing worth mentioning,

1533
01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:03.159
and the thing that makes me like
the movie the most is the main

1534
01:35:03.279 --> 01:35:09.359
characters are in line for the spook
House like the entire because that before we

1535
01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:13.760
started having like internet ticketing, that
was the spook house experience was being in

1536
01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:15.840
line like two or three hours.
Yeah, that's why, you know,

1537
01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:20.199
you'd stock up on beer and cotton, candy and stuff. So I do

1538
01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:25.840
like scary movie. But I thought
about my recommendation, okay, and I'm

1539
01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:30.520
gonna go with one for a similar
feel and apparently, as I've learned today,

1540
01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:33.600
a similar cruise. My first thought
was Happy Birthday to me, I

1541
01:35:33.720 --> 01:35:36.359
was that was gonna be mine too. I was thinking about that or the

1542
01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:39.680
Burning That was the other one that
popped in my head. I could see

1543
01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:42.319
that. But Happy Birthday to me, it just has a very similar feel.

1544
01:35:42.600 --> 01:35:45.640
It's a similar era, similar teams
working on it. Great twist at

1545
01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:49.199
the end, great twist, super
fun and I just love Happy Birthday to

1546
01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:53.079
really good. And it's also gotten
a lot of good releases too recently,

1547
01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:56.319
so that's a really good one I
agree with. Yeah, so my bloody

1548
01:35:56.359 --> 01:36:00.319
Valentine. If you love your seasonal
horror, it's something I think is worth

1549
01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:02.319
owning. I think for the average
fan, you probably want to rent it,

1550
01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:06.479
but you might fall in love with
it as the film falls in love

1551
01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:11.119
with you. This is true.
So before we get out of here,

1552
01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:15.439
thank you guys so much for checking
out the show yet again, really do

1553
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:17.680
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1554
01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:21.720
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1555
01:36:21.840 --> 01:36:27.279
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1556
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1557
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1558
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1559
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1560
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1562
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1567
01:37:08.279 --> 01:37:11.079
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1568
01:37:11.079 --> 01:37:14.520
see us cover, or some episode
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1569
01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:15.840
movie and what you'd like to see
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1570
01:37:15.920 --> 01:37:21.079
let everybody know that next week we'll
be covering a what's become an immortal classic,

1571
01:37:21.199 --> 01:37:26.399
Yeah, which is surprising because it
feels somewhat young to me. I

1572
01:37:26.439 --> 01:37:29.039
don't feel like even though it's a
very dated movie, Yeah, it still

1573
01:37:29.039 --> 01:37:30.960
feels kind of young. And that's
Heathers. Yeah, talking about Heathers next

1574
01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:36.279
week right here. So until then, my friends, we'll see you next

1575
01:37:36.359 --> 01:37:42.640
Tuesday, next Newesday. My you're
my See next Tuesday Day by everybody.

1576
01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:43.239
Later, y'all,