Do You Even Movie? | I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997): Hook-Handed Summer Slasher

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The creator of Scream has done it again and the

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critics are hooked. I Know what You Did Last Summer

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is an age of your seat Swiller. It's scarier than

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Scream and will make you jump out of your seat.

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Hang on for a wild terror ride.

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I Know what you did last Summer?

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Don't see it alone.

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In a world where podcasts reigned supreme, Two friends dare

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to ask.

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Do You Even?

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Movie?

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Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David de Noyer.

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Spoiler alert, Hello, my friends, and welcome back to another

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episode of Do You Even? Movie? My name is Enrique Kuto,

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and this is well.

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Just Dave, just Dave Fisherman, Dave Hush hush, then something.

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Yeah, No one'll ever know those other words as has

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become maybe a little bit overdone. We do have a affinity

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for the nineties, Yes, we hear it. Do You Even? Movie?

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And today is no different as we look at the

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beginning of the entire Scream machine, because of course Scream

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starts it. But what really makes a film change the

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whole industry is not the films in the series. That's

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how it affects the films outside of itself.

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Exactly.

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So we've got not only a Dawson's Creek teen slasher

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that's self aware, yes, but the same writer, Kevin Williams

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n Williams, the same writer as Scream. Of course, nobody

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likes to talk about the fact that Kevin Williamson's original

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script was like not very much at all, like what

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Wes Craven ended up filming for Scream.

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This is also true, but it was still touches.

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Oh yeah, well, I mean it's not like he's known

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for being a bad writer. He wrote a lot of

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good stuff and the interesting choices that were made. And

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I know what you did last summer. Yeah, and more

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importantly it's sequel. I'll always know what you did last summer.

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God damn it. You are so hung up on I

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always know Jude last summer. And I just want to

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say here on the podcast that I am willing to

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watch it again, but I remember it not and I

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stress not being any semblance of a good film.

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You don't remember anything that's not true. Oh yeah, what

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did you have for lunch?

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I didn't eat lunch exactly, you know, I didn't eat lunch.

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Damn it nailed it. Got them kids, got me indeed no.

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But but Dave, I would have never talked about I'll

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always know what you did last summer. Ever, if you

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had just when I said the name, sorry, then I

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would be like and you were like.

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But this is a great example of our friendship to

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the viewers and listeners who oh no, no, no, no, no

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about it too late it's been said, but no. It

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is one of those situations where my reaction dictates how

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you react to us in a property, whether it's a movie,

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whether it's a TV show, of watching it right then

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and there if you can find it, or you're gonna

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just drop it on me later and be like, well

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that's what we're doing to night.

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Yeah.

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The amount of times I've showed up for Cigar Knights

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and you've been like, well, you know that movie you

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didn't want to watch.

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Guess what happens a lot it does because you don't

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like as many good movies.

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But I will also give you credit that you have

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turned me around on some things.

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Do you know one off the top of your head.

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Virus Haunted Hills.

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Yeah, you hear that.

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I think I was just in a really bad spot

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when I watched it for the first time.

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Well, the weird thing about that was it wasn't one

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of those elvirus Hanta Hills and you got all upset

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and yead and I went, well, I like it.

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Yeah.

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I was like, hey, I haven't seen alvarrus Haunted Hills.

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And you're like, oh, dude, not good, blah blah blah.

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I think, uh. I think we've established on the show

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already too that sometimes I have a very bitchy opinion

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of films that I did not take into account where

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my mind was at when I watched them or how

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I was feeling when I watched them, So I don't

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revisit them for a long time, and then you are

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the one that convinces me to go back.

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You could reel that back to just bitchy. Yes, Yes,

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sometimes I just have a bitchy opinion.

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No, al virus Haunted Hills is one. And there's a

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big one that I'm trying to think of.

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What happened was you were it was a Friday night,

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you weren't there? Yeah, And I had gotten the Blue

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Red Blue h Yeah, yeah, because I was excited. I

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think it was on sale.

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We put it on and I'm like and I literally

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was like, I've heard it's not that good, not that good,

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but it was after I read her biography.

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Yeah, that's right.

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I was like, I heard it's not that good, but

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she seems to be really proud of it. So let's

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watch it. And it's NonStop kitchy. It's fun, it's so

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funny all the way through. It's silly, it's goofy, it's

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it's ridiculous. And as soon as it was over, I

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was like, what the fuck were you talking about?

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You forget I wasn't there for that, like you said,

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And then Joe Bob showed it, and so I had

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to watch it. Oh yeah, And then that's when you

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were like, hey, what do you think now?

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I remember because I was like, guys, I know, on

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a movie night, we'd usually have pizza, but tonight we're

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serving crow for Dave to eat. Oh duck.

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But yeah, no, I mean that that is a history

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of our friendship, is that I had there. But I've

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also done it to you a couple of times that

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I can't think of a single time because it's never happened.

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It has happened. There's been a couple of times it's happened.

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Well, for the record, I mean I am just the relentless,

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frustrating Pollyanna of the friendship of all my friendships. Really,

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so to find a movie I truly dislike is not

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that easy.

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No, it's not.

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Although you still have not shown me one of your

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favorite films I hate, and I'm not going to say

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the name of it because I don't want to inspire you. Nope, nope, nope, nope.

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And well, we watched The Crow together in theaters this year,

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but you didn't hate the crowd.

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I never had that. No. In fact, seeing the Crow

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in the theater made me realize that I had like

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a deep connection to the Crow.

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God what I feel like? I know what it is,

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and now I can't think give me just a.

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Subtle one, not a chance in hell.

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All right, this is now. The goal of the episode

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is to figure out what this is.

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I mean, you're on your own because I will not tell.

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You when you say favorite, when I talk about a lot.

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I'm not helping you at all. Content be damned, I

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will not give you a fucking hint. God damn it,

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I will not tell you a decade. I will not

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tell you as have I brought it over here before.

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I won't give you a fucking hint. You get nothing.

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Good day, sir.

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I am not Holly Wonka. I know you love Willy

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Wonka like I do.

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I do. No, no you, I I seriously won't give

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you any because the idea of revisiting it.

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No thanks, Hey, Birdman, Rob and Bama you calling out.

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Let me, let me, let me just let me just

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slip this message in badger this motherfucker like you've badgered

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me about the Yellow Belt, about this movie, so we

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can talk about it on the show.

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Good Luck, good luck. I am so I curious now, shit,

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I am a tumultuous creature. I will not give.

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In yn it's something that you despise.

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I do so, and that's the only hint you'll ever get.

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So okay, we're literally kicked this around any.

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Hint, and I think you would figure it out, probably so,

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but no, no. Uh. That's the thing about watching movies.

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Sometimes you realize that you weren't really watching them the

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first go around. Yeah, or in David's case, watching with yours. Yes,

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this is true. That's that's my favorite. I think I

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hope you hate that as much as I love that,

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because I think that's my favorite thing to say to you.

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It's gotten. It's gotten to be one of my favorite

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phrases that I also use now. But also it really

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one hundred percent is accurate because there there are because

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I'm okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna soapbox here first time.

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Oh god, Dave's doing it for once.

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I really want people to cameras there. I know, but

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I I really, I really want people to listen when

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I say this. If you're a jaded moviegoer, it's okay

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to not know that until you think about it. And

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the best example I can give is that going to

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a movie theater allows me to not have my phone

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out at all has me. It allows me to not

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be in contact with anybody that's going to distrap me

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from the film to a point where I've gotten putting

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my phone away when I watch a movie, like, I

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will either put it in the other room, I'll put

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on the charger.

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Did I tell you I read a study that showed

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that having your cell phone out of the room with you, Yeah,

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is like twenty five percent lower anxiety rate. No shit,

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Like people are literally addicted to their phone. Yeah. I

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don't even think that's questionable.

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No, I mean it's not.

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And they but they said that it's like a twenty

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five to forty percent decrease in anxiety if it's not

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in the room with you, and I can absolutely believe,

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and that's if it never rings.

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I can absolutely believe.

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So anyway, but I was not trying to do You're

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going with you but no.

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So my advice to you is, if you have a

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favorite movie, and I mean it could be it could

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be anything in regards of the word favorite. It could

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be one that you've seen a lot of times. It

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could be one that you go to for a comfort film.

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But if you have a favorite movie, do an experiment

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of putting that movie on, putting your phone either outside

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of the room, turning it off or whatever, and literally

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just looking at the screen for the entire time as

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much as you can. Because, uh, you and I agree

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with this, because this happens several years ago when we

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both took our mothers to see Steel Magnoias. Oh God, yeah,

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and we caught so much that we he hadn't seen before,

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even though we've seen that movie countless times.

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Well, and there's something else to be said for it

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being on the big screen in front of you. Even this,

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I mean, not that my screen's not very big. But

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even my screen, which is one hundred and twenty inches,

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the average home television is around fifty to sixty five

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to seventy. Yeah, so seeing the screen that big, Like,

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I hate watching movies on my big screen by myself

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unless I'm really dedicated. Yeah, because I feel like I'm

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wasting the experience If I just put whatever on and

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then I end up flipping through my phone during it,

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I always feel dirty. So but but I am also

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the kind of person who will be like, all right,

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Saturday night, I'm all alone, no friends are around, so

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I'm gonna make me a box of popcorn and I'm

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gonna put on Let's see which one of the Maria

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Ford Roger Corman movies with the same screenplay do I

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want to? I want there Saturday Night's Special, do I. Well,

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that's the best one of them all, So I do,

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sorry Saturday's Special, And I will sit in watch a

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VHS rip of Saturday Special on my giant screen and

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be like mona good but no. Like.

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The reason I bring this up especially is like I've

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seen a lot of people shit talking twisters. We saw

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twisters recently, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I've seen people shit

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talking it that it doesn't have the same appeal as

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the first one. I mean, that's a whole nother review

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we could get into, maybe even later on the show.

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I don't know. But Twister is a movie that played

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cable incessam. We talked about that on the podcast. I've

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seen that movie countless times, and it's amazing that I

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you and I saw it together, and I thought that

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it captured the feeling of the original to a good point,

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but still had enough to make its own original space

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in the in the timeline I guess of the films

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because it's not it's not a direct sequel. There's nods

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to the original in it, but nothing character wise or whatnot.

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Well, it clearly takes place in the same universe as Dorothy.

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Dorothy exists, yeah and then and then there's brief mentions

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here and there, But anyway, it's it is a movie

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that that a lot of people hold near and dear,

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and I think if people go into Twisters just wanting

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to have fun with that original concept of what they

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loved about the original, I think for the most part,

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they'll like it. And that's also because they're having their

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direct attention on the screen the entire time, they're not

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distracted by anything. I think when you have the option

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to have a distraction, whether it's your phone, whether it's

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a laptop or anything like that.

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Whether it's a significant other, divorcemicant other, yes, divorce them.

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I think it makes it easy to detract your enjoyment

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of a film to where you're not actually watching the film.

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I feel like a lot of my friends actually do

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that well.

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In cable television was kind of the birth of just

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having stuff on his ambience as well. Well, it's funny

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you say that, Dave. Okay, because I just so happened

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to have the director of Twisters. No, no, I uh,

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it's funny you say that, Dave, because yesterday I worked

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a fourteen and a half hour day. Yeah. I won't

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bore with the details, but I was doing a tedious

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job that absolutely had to be done, and because of

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the situation, it's a noisy job. I was running computers,

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and I was running computer fans, and I was running

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printers all at once in one room. So I had

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my AirPods in because not even for music and stuff,

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just because they make the noiseless. Yeah, they make my

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head stop hurting. And as I was sitting there doing this,

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I realized I have a two monitor set up on

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my computer. I was like, I'm gonna put a movie

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on the second computer because it'll feed through my headphones,

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and I'm just gonna kind of have it on because

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I do every soft and I have to go and

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do something and go and do something. And I realized

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by the third film i'd watch doing that that I

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was basically a security guard. Okay, I'm glad you get

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where I'm going. Going out with that, I was like, oh,

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I'm just like watching the TV until something makes a

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noise and then I look away and I go deal

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with it, and then I come back and sit back down.

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And that made me realize something because I was watching

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mostly thrillers and action movies, and boy did they keep

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me amused while I was working. But that's something I

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don't do very often because most of the time jobs

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are too focused.

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Yeah, that you're active, depending up, you're active actively editing

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or recording, it's like you can't I.

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Mean, well, yeah, if you're if you're doing a podcast,

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you can't listen to or watch anything at the same time,

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if you're editing it, you have to listen actively to it.

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If you're editing video, you have to listen and watch.

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Sometimes there's editing where you barely need to listen, but

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even then it's like maybe i'd put on a podcast

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or something, you're not gonna watch a movie. So yeah,

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it's very rare that I have that ability to just

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kind of letever and I just have the movie on

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the TV. And that was what I felt like. By

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the time the last movie ended at like twelve thirty

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at night, I was like, I was like, oh, I

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feel like I'm working a night watching them this job.

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I'm just like, look at the TV. I hear noise

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and goes that broken that's fine, fine, And I'm like, oh,

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I'm watching you know, uh roder And I was watching

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like Roger Corman movies from the nineties that nobody knows.

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I found. I found one that like nobody knows, you've

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told me about it had four reviews on IMDb.

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That's it. Yeah, Oh, I gotta check my letter box out.

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Yeah quick, whichever, No way, if you are watching this

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show and you went, oh quake, yeah with Steve Rails

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back then, you should email in do youeven moviepot at

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gmail dot com and let us know because that's weird.

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Yeah, that absolutely is.

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But anyway, it was really good. But as I was

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watching that, I watched like Bloodfist three, I watched a documentary,

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I watched a bunch of stuff. My point is just

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that it was funny watching something so passively. Actually it

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was really fun. Yeah, do you Even Movie?

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Will be right back, Welcome back to do You Even Movie?

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In general, there's something to be said for giving a

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film your undivided attention, or as undivided as you can,

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and that's a struggle for a lot of people.

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Well, and especially with COVID happening in twenty twenty being

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the year that we started seeing all these major films

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get released to streaming services. So people in large amounts

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I don't think have returned to the theater.

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I mean obviously, well, well, the theaters were declining anyway

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to an extent, and that's just gonna be the nature

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of the beast, because watching movies is becoming more and

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more and more convenient and it's not like we can, bitch,

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we make like an hour and a half to two

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hours show a week that you can watch for free.

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This is true via the internet, you know. It's that's

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the future, that's where we are now. And I do

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miss that nostalgia, you know, of the video store and

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stuff like that. But I totally understand why it lost

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the fight. It's just the convenience of you don't even

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leave your couch versus you have to leave your home,

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you have to go somewhere.

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You have to walk, you know, be respectful.

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Well, if the sheriff's around, yeah, pants on. But so

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But the other thing I want to mention is the

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other problem. It's not just about not paying attention. It's

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also about people so desperately want to have something to

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say yeah about the films that they've just watched. And

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for the most part, most people feel like if you

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don't have something negative to say, if you don't have

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a harsh criticism, yeah, then you've got nothing interesting to

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set And.

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I disagree whole heart.

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I disagree too. And if we're wrong, you must be

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really bored listening to the show because we're so positive

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most of the time. But that's that's that's always been

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my attitude. In fact, the movies, and you've known this

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our entire friendship the movies I'm most critical of are

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the ones that we walk out of that I like, yeah,

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I'll walk out of it and go, man, that was great.

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Wouldn't the third act have been better if this had happened? Yeah?

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I mean we saw we saw Long Legs two weeks

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ago now, and we've still been talking about it every

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time we see each other, basically like just been waking

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some stuff up.

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I really enjoyed it, even though I thought it wasn't

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it wasn't perfect. I really enjoyed it.

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I don't the reviews. I mean, the reviews hype it

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up a bit, but it does. It does definitely have

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a place in horror, But I don't think it's the

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next groundbreaking one that everybody's making it out to be.

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Sweetheart, It's already groundbreaking.

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Well the yeah, box office wise it is.

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Yeah, it's already a ground breaking horror.

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Oh yeah, no, no, no, I know that I'm saying. I'm

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more so saying content wise, like it's the scariest movie.

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Of the year. I I I like it's hard because

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like the things I found hokey about it, If I

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say out loud, I spoil some for people. And I

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and I think the best way to go into Long

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Legs is knowing nothing. I think the best way to

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go into most movies is knowing absolutely nothing.

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The only thing I'm gonna say no spoilers at all,

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is that a certain actor in it could definitely do

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a Tiny Tim biopic that I would be all in on.

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That's it, Okay, I would love to see him do

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that too.

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I mean, yeah, I mean he was kind of a

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cross between Tiny Tim and Michael Jackson. Yeah.

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I wrote on Letterbox tiny Tim impersonation from Hell, so.

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A Tiny Tim, and I love Tiny Tim, but he

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got a little scary.

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Therefore, especially towards the end of his Howard Stern appearances.

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Well, he literally his face looked like a mortician did

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his making. He just was terrified.

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Oh he was anyway, and then he made himself a

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clown blood Harvest.

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And I really love Tiny Tim. I think he's a

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fascinating person with fascinating music.

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Eternal Troubadour. His bio that the guy that was on

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Justin Martel Martell. He wasn't just on Joe Bob. He

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is the producer, creator of the Last Driver. Yeah, but

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his book is phenomenal.

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I was at the convention when the book came out

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and I had a table next to him. That's that's

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how weird it was when I found out Justin Bartell's like,

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I know that name, this guy I sat next to

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for a weekend in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. So no, no, yeah, anyway, yes,

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we've got enough topics all that digression to say, Yeah,

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you know, when you can sit down, put your phone

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in the other room and stop watching a film already

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trying to articulate what you want to say about it, Yeah,

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that is definitely the worst way to go about watching

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a movie. I mean, you know, I don't know. I

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can only speak as the anxiety riddled goblin that I am.

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I get that. My point, I apologize. My point in

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wrapping this up is that I think it's become and

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you nailed it, is I think it's become way too

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easy to wax negatively about a film. People will make

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quips on their letterbox like that's the review is just

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like one smarmy line of it, and it's just like,

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well that didn't give me anything, like what do you

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actually think about the movie? Sort of thing. So I

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feel like there's absolutely a place for that stuff too,

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and I get that, but I feel like a large

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amount of viewers these days are not enjoying films.

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Well, it's just the desperate need to be based. Yeah.

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And meanwhile, I'm over here being cringe and I'm proud

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of it. So let's talk about it with you. Like

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a stupid fucking movie from the nineties.

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Hell yeah, we are talking about I Know what You

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Did Last Summer from nineteen ninety seven, one hour and

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forty one minutes, rated R for strong horror, violence and language.

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I did feel like the horror violence was strong.

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It absolutely is.

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No.

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This is one that we actually talked about this off, Mike.

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This is where I get into a debate of what

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is a horror versus a thriller?

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Yeah, which I mean a lot of people would say

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the only difference is a horror and a thriller is

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an Academy Award.

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This is actually very fucking true.

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Wow, Because if you have a horror film and it

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suddenly becomes super successful, if it becomes Silence of the Lambs,

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then all of a sudden, it's a thriller and it

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has value. But if it's just playing on cable and

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making teenagers scared, then it's a horror movie. It's a

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piece of garbage. It's just here to come and to go.

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But this is one of those movies to me that

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embodies everything that you could want from a ninety slasher

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after Scream setting out that whole track.

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Basically, well, Scream reinvented the slasher movie. The slasher movie

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was incredibly stale by eighty nine and ninety, and Scream

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took it and put it on top of its head

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and made people want to watch slasher movies. But now

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instead of wanting to see a group of kids go

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to fix up a summer camp, yeah or whatever, it

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became all about suburban kids, which makes sense because that's

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who's going to see the movies, whether they're suburban kids

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or the parents of suburban kids. They wanted it to

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be about suburban kids. They all had to look great.

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That's why the joke is they cast off of the

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WB because it was literally all these teeny bopper people.

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I mean, Scream had it, I know he did last

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summer had it. The faculty. Yeah, yeah, they had these

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you know, great looking young, generally white kids. Which is

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interesting because then when the WB became like the bastion

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of people of color television. It was originally the place

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where you watched white kids be mad at each other

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and make out, which I always thought was like, it

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was like an evolution. I gotta love that evolution. So

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but that's that was the big change. Is it went

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from it went from like kind of a down and

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dirty noss to being like, no, no, no, we want

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good looking young people at most college age good looking

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young people. And of course now we're and as we're

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heading into the two thousands, you know, it just met

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like dudes wearing like gauntlet banded abandoned things on their

484
00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:04.440
arms and girls showing their middrift because that was the

485
00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:07.720
era of the mid drift was so and that's where

486
00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:09.680
you get great films, like we've talked about Urban Legend.

487
00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:13.440
Urban Legend was cast just like that as well. It

488
00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:18.359
just became the thing. And really it didn't stop being

489
00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:20.240
massively popular until Saw.

490
00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:20.680
Yeah.

491
00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:23.799
So that's a good almost ten years, about a decade,

492
00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.039
ye yeah, yeah, about a decade. And and that's the thing.

493
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:28.960
And and but you know people, you know, people don't

494
00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:29.680
talk about enough.

495
00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:31.519
Tell me they don't.

496
00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:36.720
Talk enough about there was this little pocket from about

497
00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:40.319
ninety nine or two thousand maybe two thousand and one

498
00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:44.160
until about two thousand and seven or eight, where there

499
00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:47.039
were a bunch of monster movies again that is yeah,

500
00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:50.200
you're absolutely right, and not just like Lake Placid. Yeah,

501
00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:54.359
not just those, but like Toby Hooper's Crocodile, Crocodile two Death,

502
00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:57.759
Roll Octapus too. Well, but we're talking before the sci

503
00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:00.440
Fi Channel thing. Oh yeah, like those movies ended up

504
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:03.039
on the Sci Fi Channel because they fit. But these

505
00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:05.839
were direct to video movies mostly, almost all of them

506
00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:09.799
made by New Image, which New Image was founded by

507
00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:13.319
two guys who worked at Cannon Films, so they were

508
00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:16.160
running with it. Avi Lerner was the main founder of

509
00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:19.279
New Image and they meet. But they made these monster

510
00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.920
movies and they were hugely popular. But you know what

511
00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:27.599
they all did that had the attractive teenagers. They all

512
00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:30.680
had the Dawson Creek casting. So now that I'm thinking

513
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:32.400
about it, now that I'm saying it out loud to you,

514
00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:36.640
I'm going, wait, I guess it was part of in

515
00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:39.279
a way, it was part of the same breath of

516
00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:41.920
fresh air, because well, breath of fresh air which made

517
00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:47.720
everything the same. And yeah, everything that's new is everything

518
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:49.880
that's old is new again, and everything that's new gets

519
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:53.839
crusty so that you could quote me on that. Put

520
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:57.359
that on my tombstone. But but but yeah, that's I

521
00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:01.079
just want to mention that I because I was right

522
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:02.960
at that time in two thousand and two thousand and one,

523
00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:05.119
two thousand and two, I was the kid with the

524
00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:08.160
DVD player, right when they became affordable, who was buying

525
00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:10.759
up these new image movies that were all over the

526
00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:13.240
shelves of Blockbuster. Yeah, and then a year later they'd

527
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:15.319
air on sci Fi. And it was before sci Fi

528
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.119
started making them all themselves and started making them really

529
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:21.400
wacky and because they realized people were watching them for bad.

530
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:22.039
Movie, bad movie.

531
00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:26.039
Yeah, it blows my mind to look at those. So

532
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:27.839
I just want to mention that, like it wasn't the

533
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:32.240
cycle wasn't only slashers yet it was a lot of

534
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:33.160
slasher movies.

535
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:35.200
And I mean I and I think what I like

536
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:37.160
most about I Know you did last summer is that

537
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:41.799
it's it doesn't follow the screen formula exactly in regards

538
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:44.200
of its pacing, because you know, infamously we open on

539
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.119
screen with the death of Drew Barrymore's character. Yeah, then

540
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:49.400
we move into you know, some menacing but then the

541
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:51.359
principal dies who was Henry Winklish character.

542
00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:54.920
And remember though the death of Drew barrymore call back

543
00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:57.720
to Hitchcock. Everything that's old is new. Yeah.

544
00:25:57.839 --> 00:25:59.640
Yeah, and that's what I love about I know you'd

545
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:02.319
lest so is It's pacing is so good when it

546
00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:04.799
comes to the menacing that when we get to the kills,

547
00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:05.960
it's just like, oh, yeah, I guess it is. I

548
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:07.000
guess it is a horror film.

549
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:10.559
Well, and if you read the book, the Lowess Duncan book.

550
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:11.440
Yeah, which we'll talk about her too.

551
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.240
Those books are all about that era of books, let

552
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:17.359
alone her books. Yeah, they were all about suspense, who

553
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:19.799
done it? All of that stuff because they were meant

554
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.119
for even younger audiences than these movies.

555
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.279
Well yeah, surrounding I mean it's it is one of

556
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:29.039
those both an author that was really good at doing

557
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:30.960
the teen horror that didn't have a lot of deaths

558
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:32.799
in it, just more so mystery thrillers.

559
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:33.559
Well because they were for young adults.

560
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:35.400
Yeah yeah, and then aiming this right towards the end,

561
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:36.960
I mean yeah, it just all works out. So our

562
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.480
director on the film is Jim Gillespie. He gets his

563
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:42.480
start in nineteen ninety two, with Encounters, cardiac arrests in

564
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:45.960
nineteen ninety four, Shooting Gallery ninety five, Ghostbusters of each

565
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:49.319
Fendley in ninety five, what he does the Queen Mother

566
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:51.599
Love video in ninety six, Made in Heaven video for

567
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.799
Queen in ninety seven. Then in ninety seven he also

568
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:55.799
does I Know What You Did. Last summer two thousand

569
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:59.960
and two he does the less lesser loved stallone Thrilled

570
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:00.759
ice You.

571
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:02.279
I kind of like icy.

572
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:04.400
I love the opening with that fucking murder, with that

573
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:04.960
nail gun.

574
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:09.440
That is vicious, and it's I eye ye Cu because

575
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:10.359
it's very cless.

576
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.440
I think it's called dtox is the other title for it.

577
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.240
That's not a bad title, Yeah, take Detoxact. But I've

578
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:16.440
always had a soft spot for Icey.

579
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:17.160
See was fun.

580
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:20.319
The last time I watched ICU, I was literally in

581
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:24.440
bed board, probably five years ago, and my Roque who

582
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:27.240
advertised me to watch it with ads on some street

583
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:30.359
random streaming service, and I did, and when it was over,

584
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.000
I was like, that was pretty solid.

585
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:35.519
I mean, it's basically a white out with Kate Beckinsale

586
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:37.720
or in the early twenty tens ripped it off because

587
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:38.680
that's basically what it is.

588
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:40.319
It's a really good point.

589
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:43.359
So that he does The Legacy two thousand and two,

590
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.759
Venom in two thousand and five, oh and then Billionaire

591
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:48.799
Ransom in twenty sixteen, and that is the last on

592
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.319
his directing resume. Moving down to our writer, as Enrique mentioned,

593
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:54.680
we have Lois Duncan. She was a writer and journalist

594
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:57.839
who started in nineteen fifty eight with Love Song for Joyce.

595
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.960
She then writes A Game of Danger sixty two. Books

596
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:02.720
are movies, These are books. I got her movie seven.

597
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:03.880
I'm sorry, I just want to make sure I was

598
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:04.519
ta okay.

599
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:04.799
Yeah.

600
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.680
Her novel A Game of Danger sixty two, Point of Violence, Ransom,

601
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:09.799
Hotel for Dogs in seventy one. Then I Know what

602
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:11.480
you did last summer in nineteen seventy three.

603
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.319
Wow, that was that old? That old.

604
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:16.000
When the bow breaks, Yeah, when the Bow breaks in

605
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.519
seventy three, Killing mister Griffin in seventy eight, Daughters of

606
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.440
Even seventy nine. Nineteen ninety two, she writes a nonfiction

607
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.039
piece called who Killed My Daughter? Because tragically in the

608
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:28.119
early nineties her daughter was found murdered. They still never

609
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:29.599
were able to solve that she was shot.

610
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.079
Yeah, that was a massive thing because she was considered

611
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:35.519
one of the masters of the who killed so and

612
00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:38.279
so Yeah books, Yeah, and then all of a sudden

613
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.440
to be a victim of that kind of crime. It's

614
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:42.279
very terrified.

615
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:44.880
Notoriously wrote one more of those books after that event

616
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:46.480
and then never wrote anything like that again.

617
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:47.400
I don't blame her.

618
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.920
So then, going to her movie resume, she has Summer

619
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:51.839
of Fear in nineteen seventy eight, the Linda Blair Wes

620
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.880
Craven film, Uh Killing Mister Griffin in nineteen ninety seven,

621
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:56.519
I Know what you did last summer in ninety seven,

622
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:58.799
I've been waiting for you in nineteen ninety eight. I

623
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:00.400
still know what you did last summer? Because she gets

624
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.200
credit for characters Don't Look behind You in ninety nine,

625
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:05.440
Held for Ransom in two thousand, Always Know what you

626
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:07.079
did last Summer in two thousand and six.

627
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.039
Hold On, hold On, I knew it.

628
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:13.880
It's important, Hotel for Dogs in two thousand and nine,

629
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:15.640
and then Down a Dark Hall in twenty eighteen is

630
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:19.119
her last credit. She is a writer that I cannot

631
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.400
recommend enough for her young adult novels. Some of those

632
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.119
are fantastic. One of my favorites is uh.

633
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:24.960
Oh god, what is that?

634
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:29.240
I think it's called thrilling Thrilled to kill? I think

635
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:30.839
is the title of it. That's when I read in

636
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:31.920
high school that was really good.

637
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:35.319
Do You Even?

638
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:35.759
Movie?

639
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:47.000
Will be right back, welcome back to Do You Even? Movie?

640
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:53.160
Moving on down to our other writer, we have Kevin Williamson.

641
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:55.400
Of course, he gets his fame in nineteen ninety six

642
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:57.160
with Scream I Know What You Did Last Summer? In

643
00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:59.119
ninety seven is the writer, Scream two is the writer

644
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:01.359
in ninety seven is one Well, the faculty in ninety eight,

645
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.799
Teach m mis Tingle in ninety nine. He's the director

646
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:06.480
on Teach mis Tingle as well. He writes for Scream

647
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:09.440
three in two thousand, Dawson's Creak in two thousand, Cursed

648
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:13.279
in two thousand and five with the first film Scream four.

649
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:16.079
He has characters in twenty eleven, Stalker in twenty fourteen,

650
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:18.960
the following TV series in twenty thirteen, The Vampire Diaries

651
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.400
in two thousand and nine, Screen TV series in twenty fifteen,

652
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.799
and the Scream six and twenty twenty three.

653
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:25.799
Well, of course, yeah yeah.

654
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:28.160
And then moving down to our cinematographer, we have Denise

655
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:31.480
Crossan gets to start in nineteen eighty nine, with Melancholia,

656
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:35.039
Silent Scream in nineteen ninety A, Murder Equality in ninety one,

657
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.039
Blue Ice in nineteen ninety two, The Real McCoy ninety three.

658
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:40.960
You've ever seen the real McCoy? Val Kilmer and it's

659
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:46.039
Val Kilmer and I want to say, oh my god,

660
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:48.960
I can picture her face, Vicky Vale from Batman, Kim Basinger.

661
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:50.359
I have not seen that one.

662
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.319
Kim Basinger is a professional thief and she has retired,

663
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:55.200
and these guys kidnap her son because they wanted to

664
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:58.000
do one more heist for her. Huh, it's really good.

665
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.119
That sounds pretty good. But you mentioned Blue Ice by

666
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.400
the way with Chila, Yeah, that's the one with Jamie

667
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:04.079
Lee Curtis, right.

668
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:05.960
I think so yeahere's that Blue Steel. No, that's blue Steel.

669
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.039
I don't know the Blue Ice I think is a

670
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:10.319
I think, don't quote me, and it may not be

671
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.119
the same movie with Vinegar Center put out a Blue Ice.

672
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:13.799
That might be the same movie, which is like a

673
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:14.920
sexy thriller. I want to see.

674
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:16.119
You heard Dave quote him?

675
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:18.759
Do not quote me? No, stre Damis in nineteen ninety four.

676
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:20.960
He shoots Killer Tongue in nineteen eighty six, then does

677
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:22.640
I know what you did last summer? In ninety seven

678
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:23.559
Kill Her Tongue?

679
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:25.640
And other one of those movies in all those boxes

680
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.079
we just watched. Rumpel Stiltson Tongue was always passed. Still

681
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.039
going to ever seen it? I have not me neither.

682
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:35.680
I'd be in, I'd be down incognito in ninety seven.

683
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:38.880
Also shoots The Clandeston Marriage in ninety eight, The Hole

684
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:40.240
in two thousand and one. Have you ever seen The

685
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:44.039
Hole with thora Birch, I don't know that. I have

686
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.319
a very very fucked up psychological thriller where her and

687
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:50.960
her friends are in college and they they find this

688
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:53.359
bunker and they make that their party spot, and then

689
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:55.079
one day they find out they're all locked inside the

690
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:58.079
bunker and they can't get out. Really, it is fucking

691
00:31:59.039 --> 00:31:59.559
it's out there.

692
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:00.519
Yes, that sounds good.

693
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:01.759
It's intense, well, by the way.

694
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:05.079
Blue Ice from nineteen ninety two is a film with

695
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.799
Michael Kine, Oh, Michael Kin and.

696
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:08.960
Shan Young Oh Shan Yong.

697
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:13.440
Okay, yeah, So a former British Secret Service agent falls

698
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.039
for an American woman and becomes Entangled in a Web

699
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:17.039
of Espiona.

700
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:18.039
I don't think that's the same movie.

701
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:19.839
I do not think so anyway.

702
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.240
So then Agent Cody Banks in two thousand.

703
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:23.880
And three, Now we're cooking with gas.

704
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.359
Agent Cody Banks two, The London Assignment in two thousand

705
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.839
and four. All right, that he does Pink Panther two

706
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.480
in two thousand and nine, Outlander TV series twenty fourteen,

707
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:34.839
Urban hym in twenty fifteen, The Bastard Executioner in twenty fifteen,

708
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.400
shoots Billionaire Ransom, one of the director's last film in

709
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.880
twenty sixteen, shoots Into the bad Lands for AMC in

710
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.119
twenty eighteen, Asher in eighteen, Doctor Hugh in twenty eighteen,

711
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.000
Pray for the Devil in twenty twenty two, and most

712
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.319
recently completed shooting on The Rig in twenty twenty three.

713
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:49.720
I've not heard of The Rig.

714
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:53.400
I believe that's a Netflix original. Okay, So moving down

715
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.720
to our IMB synopsis real quick, Yes, sir.

716
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.200
Totally off topic. Did you watch the Platform when I

717
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:00.400
told you to watch an on Netflix?

718
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:00.480
No?

719
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:02.079
Because I just got my Netflix back so it's in

720
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:03.720
my watch list again and I want to watch it

721
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:04.319
really badly.

722
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.400
Are you aware you're not.

723
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:06.960
Uh uh.

724
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:08.480
Sequel drops in October.

725
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:10.799
No shit? Yeah, oh okay, yeah.

726
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.160
If anybody has not seen the Spanish film The Platform,

727
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.559
you should and sequel drops in October anyway, So.

728
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.000
I'm synopsis says four young friends bound by tragic accident

729
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.319
are reunited when they find themselves being stocked by a

730
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:25.079
hook wheeling maniac and their small seaside town is that.

731
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.039
There is no fat on that that is done though.

732
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.119
My synopsis, Oh boy, a tragic accident, tragic accidental hit

733
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.119
and run comes back to haunt fourteen's a year later

734
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:36.240
when a hook wheeling psychopath begins to stalk them.

735
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:39.119
They're the same picture.

736
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.119
I mean, I took out the seaside town.

737
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.559
Yeah, which honestly is the best part is it really

738
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:45.559
tells you what it's like.

739
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:47.519
You know me, I'm a sucker for seaside town. So

740
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:48.680
that's probably why I love this movie.

741
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:51.319
What are your top twenty seven seaside town movies?

742
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.799
Twenty seven? Huh No, what's one you like? Storm of

743
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.200
the Century by far Oh yeah, that's a I mean,

744
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.559
it's it's it's kind of an easygoat because you and

745
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.039
I talked about this, but oh fuck, I'm blaking on

746
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.559
the title, what's Flannagan's vampire story?

747
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:07.599
Well, if that's a series not a film.

748
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:10.440
Yeah, but Night Mass thank you.

749
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:12.360
Yeah. Storm of the Century is too. You're right, you

750
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:14.159
suck so.

751
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.599
Our caest is Jennifer Love Hewitt, who plays Julie James

752
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:19.599
in this. She gets to start in nineteen eighty nine

753
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.519
with kids Incorporated, then goes on to be in Munchie

754
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:23.400
in nineteen ninety two.

755
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:27.440
Jim Minorski can say he discovered her, yes, he can,

756
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.719
She denies that was back when she went by love Hewitt. Yeah,

757
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:32.440
her first name was love back, then.

758
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:34.840
Shaky Ground in nineteen ninety two, Little Miss Millions in

759
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.039
ninety three, which is the poster he shows in Papatopoulos.

760
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.559
Well, and Little Miss Millions and Munchie were both directed.

761
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.119
Yeah, Jim min Minorski sister Act two back in the

762
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:44.360
Habit in ninety three, then Nails Party of five in

763
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:47.119
nineteen ninety five, appears in House Arrest in ninety ninety six.

764
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:48.920
I Know what you did last Summer in ninety six.

765
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:49.159
Wow.

766
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:51.599
Wo House Wrest was one year before that. Yeah, she

767
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:52.679
looks so much younger.

768
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.880
Well, I mean, David, Yes, I want you to take

769
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.519
take a second. Okay, I'm gonna explain P. Two.

770
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:01.239
Oh my god.

771
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:03.679
See this is why no one takes the time too,

772
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:04.920
is because you're such a brad about it.

773
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.320
Boy Meets World in nineteen ninety eight, Can't Hardly Wait

774
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.239
in nineteen ninety eight, smash Mouth, Can't Get enough of

775
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.519
You Baby Video in ninety eight, I Still Know What

776
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:13.760
You Did Last Summer in ninety eight, Hercules, The Adventure

777
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:17.079
of Tom Thumb and Thumb, Ballina, Heartbreakers, Hunchback of Notre Dame, two,

778
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:20.199
Family Guy in two thousand and two, The Tuxedo American Dreams,

779
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.440
Garfield The Movie in two thousand and four, The Truth

780
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.559
About Love in two thousand and five, Ghost Whisper in

781
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:26.840
two thousand and five, Garfield A Tail, Two Kiddies in

782
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.480
two thousand and six, Hey If It works, Traffic Thunder

783
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:30.920
in two thousand and eight, which I don't remember her.

784
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:33.920
In Shoot, I'm not sure I remember.

785
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:35.440
Maybe she was in one of the trailers in More

786
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:37.639
with a casting or like when they do the when

787
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.480
they go to the premieres and stuff they showed the footage.

788
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:40.400
Maybe I don't know.

789
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.599
The client list in twenty ten, Lawn Order SVU twenty

790
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:45.840
ten Hot in Cleveland twenty eleven, the Client List TV

791
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.559
series in twenty twelve, and most recently, she's been on

792
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:51.760
nine to one to one on in twenty eighteen. Oh okay, nice,

793
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.159
Sarah Michelle gellar next to Our Castle is to pays

794
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.519
Hell and Schiber's in this. She was in Burger King

795
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.400
commercials in nineteen eighty two as a ky I.

796
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.960
Just saw that in the theater. Yeah, I like commercials.

797
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.960
Have you seen any of them? No, it's her, Leah Thompson,

798
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.280
Sarah Michelle Geller. God, who else is it?

799
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:08.679
Uh?

800
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:10.760
God, there's another one I can't think of, but like

801
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.159
all three, four five of them are on YouTube.

802
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:16.039
And Sarah Michelle Geller was in the Sarah Michelle Geller.

803
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.960
Yeah crazy right, fuck you over the Brooklyn Bridge in

804
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.880
nineteen eighty four, High Stakes in eighty nine, Swans Crossing

805
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.119
in ninety two, appears on All My Children in ninety three,

806
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:26.559
Then Does I Know What You Did Last Summer in

807
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.480
ninety seven, gets on Buffy the Vampire Slayer in ninety seven,

808
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.360
Scream two in ninety seven, Small Soldiers in nineteen ninety eight,

809
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:34.480
King of the Hill in ninety eight, She's All That

810
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.960
in ninety nine, Simply Irresistible ninety nine, Cruel Intentions, Angel

811
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.440
Sex and the City. Harvard Man does Scooby Doo in

812
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:42.320
two thousand and two, Scooby Doo two in two thousand

813
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.719
and four, The Grudge, Robot Chicken, The Return Southland Tails

814
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.119
The Grudge two in two thousand and six, TMNT in

815
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.320
two thousand and seven. Veronicas decides to die in two

816
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:51.559
thousand and nine, which I love that title.

817
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:52.559
That's a good title.

818
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.880
Possession in two thousand and nine, The Crazy Ones twenty thirteen,

819
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.000
Cruel Intentions in twenty sixteen, Masters of the Universe, Revelation

820
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.320
in twenty twenty one. Most recently was in Clerk's three

821
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:03.519
in twenty twenty two. Oh wow, she has had its

822
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:04.960
appearances herself. It's pretty cute.

823
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:05.480
Oh okay.

824
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.000
And then wrapping us up is a Freddy Prince junior

825
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:09.719
who plays Ray Bronson in this But when I say

826
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:11.440
wrapping this up, there's so many names in this movie.

827
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:12.639
We'll cover a little bit more.

828
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.559
Believe it or not, every single person in this film

829
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:16.079
had a name.

830
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.000
It's crazy. Family Matters in nineteen ninety five, gets his

831
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:20.960
start House of Yes in ninety seven.

832
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:23.159
I mean, I do love me some house of Yes.

833
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:24.679
That is such an that might to the.

834
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:26.639
Show because that's a that's one that needs.

835
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.840
To be Oh, I'm willingly, but that is what nobody's

836
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.639
ready for. Nope, no, they're not even vaguely ready for it.

837
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.159
Detention The Seeds of Johnson High in ninety seven. I

838
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:36.199
Know what you did last summer in ninety seven, Sparkler,

839
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:37.960
I still know what you did last summer. She's all

840
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.639
that wing commander down to you in two thousand, Boys

841
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:43.760
and Girls in two thousand, Head Over Heels, Summer Catch Fraser,

842
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.320
Scooby Doo Friends, Scooby Doo two, Boston Legal in two

843
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:49.880
thousand and four, the short lived show Freddy in two

844
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:53.559
thousand and five, Yeah, Yeah, his own Chew for a bit,

845
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:56.199
George Lopez Show in two thousand and six, The Reef,

846
00:37:56.360 --> 00:38:00.920
Happily Never After, Brooklyn Rules, Mass Effect, Bones, Star Wars, Rebels,

847
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:03.519
Punky Brewster, and also appeared in Clerk's Three in twenty

848
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:05.440
twenty two, Fair enough the O. They're both in the

849
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:06.000
same scene.

850
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.599
Oh, it was like, I know you did last summer Reunion.

851
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:11.000
It totally was so Also appearing in the cast, we

852
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.599
have Anne Hayes, who plays Melissa Egan. Ryan Felippe plays

853
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.119
Barry Cox. We have Muse Watson who plays Ben Willis

854
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.440
and the Fisherman, and we also have Johnny Gilecki who

855
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:19.039
plays Max.

856
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:19.719
Oh.

857
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:26.719
Yeah, from a big bank from Roseanne Chris's vacation. I mean,

858
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:28.599
there's a bunch of a bunch of sids. Luck he's

859
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.119
been in. So I know what you did last summer.

860
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:33.880
Unfortunately at this time of recording is not streaming anywhere.

861
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:35.800
But you can't easily rent it in any place you

862
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:36.599
get your videos from.

863
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.880
Yeah, anywhere you pay to watch a film, you can

864
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:39.639
pay to watch it.

865
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:41.440
So what was your first time watching I know what

866
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:42.239
you did last summer?

867
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.519
Gosh I had I had a sister was nine years

868
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.800
older than me. Yeah, she had to see it, so

869
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:50.719
because what it came out in what ninety eight? Seven

870
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:55.000
ninety seven, So I was eleven years old, So I'm

871
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.000
sure I wanted to watch it, but I garan damn

872
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.239
t you. My sister, being eighteen or nineteen at that time,

873
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.519
was the one who went to Blockbuster Video and rented

874
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:07.400
that film because you had to if you were a teenager.

875
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.599
I mean it was the zeitgeist. Yeah, so I remember

876
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:14.320
watching it on tape and thinking it was pretty spooky,

877
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:18.039
you know, and violent, and also even as a young man,

878
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.679
being very fascinated by the what are you waiting?

879
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.559
I have some fun trivia about that scene. Well good,

880
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:26.400
oh my god.

881
00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:29.119
But I remembered liking it. It was it was definitely

882
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.159
I was already into horror movies because it got into

883
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.920
horror movies way too young. Yeah, so I always liked it.

884
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.840
I liked Scream more as a young man, I did.

885
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:43.039
And then I remember catching it on HBO a lot, okay,

886
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:45.880
very early, and it's released, so I probably watched it

887
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.559
on HBO, you know a few dozen now you've done

888
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:51.440
a few dozen, maybe a dozen times. And then I

889
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:53.960
also remember one time renting it for a sleepover.

890
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:54.760
Oh hell yeah.

891
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:59.960
So that's my memory because being eleven twelve years old,

892
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.679
when when you have Scream and I know what you

893
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:04.800
did last summer out, yeah, that kind of started to

894
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:08.519
replace the mindset of everything being Freddie and Jason. Yeah,

895
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:11.159
so you would go to slumber parties and people be like,

896
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:12.559
I brought I know what you did last summer. I

897
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:14.679
brought I still know what you did last summer, And

898
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:18.559
that was becoming a bigger write of passage to watch.

899
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:20.800
And then it was kind of the old school heads

900
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:22.519
like me who would be like, I brought night right

901
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:24.400
on the Street three and they'd be like what, and

902
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:28.599
I'd like, you'll see so or worse, I brought Sleepway Camp.

903
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.679
There you go. But I remember the one thing that

904
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.639
I remember about the Fisherman in particular is that he

905
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.800
actually was on the Boogeyman compilation back in the day.

906
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.840
Oh I remember that, Yeah, So he became he became

907
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:42.559
a staple that my first time watching it, though I

908
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:43.920
was five years old in the movie came out, so

909
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:45.840
I did not see it in theaters, nor did I

910
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:47.920
probably see it on while.

911
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:49.440
A nerdy five year old.

912
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:55.039
I remember this premiered on TNT and it was AIG deal.

913
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.320
Yeah, And that was at the.

914
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.480
Time that I was allowed to watch stuff on TV,

915
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.239
even if it was technically R rated.

916
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:04.079
Well yeah, because they cut out all the good s.

917
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:05.960
They cut all the good stuff. So I remember watching

918
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:07.679
this as it premiered, and actually my mom watched it

919
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:11.519
with me, and the Fourth of July sequence with Sarah

920
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:15.880
Michelle Geller's character gave me nightmares because I still remember

921
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:17.719
the nightmare of like just wandering around the dock, and

922
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:19.920
the fishermen would like pop out of places like that's

923
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:22.199
that's that's the shit that I dealt with in my dreams.

924
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.400
So Dave's dreams were like sitting on the dock of

925
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:26.079
the bay.

926
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.519
But I found it. I found it scary, really good.

927
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.079
And then about five six years ago, you and I

928
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:35.159
on a whim actually now I think it was twenty

929
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.239
twenty on a whim just decided to do One and

930
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.159
two back to back. Yeah, and I remembered I always

931
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:41.800
liked the movie. I think I owned it on VHS.

932
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:43.599
I may even had the Triple I had the Triple

933
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:45.639
Feature DVD because I had always know for a while.

934
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:49.400
But then it was one of those movies that, like,

935
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:50.760
I'd seen it so many times that I kind of

936
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:52.159
forgot how good it was. And then when you and

937
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:54.039
I revisited One and Two back to back, I was

938
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:57.079
just like, God, damn, this is a really fun slasher

939
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:58.599
thriller from the nineties.

940
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:02.119
Yeah, no, I mean it solid, it really is, and

941
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:07.239
it's delightfully dated. Yeah, just like just like all of

942
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.000
those from that era, just like the faculties, delightfully dated,

943
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:13.360
just like all the screen movies are delightfully dated.

944
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.119
So and the rewatch value is there because the one

945
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.840
thing I do remember about the TNCU premiere that they

946
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:18.880
did all the time was when it premiered, it would

947
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:21.840
have an encore immediately after. Oh yeah yeah, so watching

948
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:25.079
it twice that night. So are you ready to get

949
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:26.719
into I know what you did last summer?

950
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:29.199
Sure? Forty one minutes in, let's do it.

951
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.559
Let's do it. So we open with a beautiful shot

952
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:35.039
of the oceans of the town of Southport, whilst Typo

953
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.480
Negatives cover of Summer Breeze serenades us.

954
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:41.599
Remember when we said delightfully, delightfully dated.

955
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:44.400
There you go. So we are going over the waters

956
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:45.920
and that's when we see a young man sitting on

957
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:47.920
the edge of a cliff and he's flipping around a

958
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.119
pendant and we can see the guy's distraught. He does

959
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.679
not look like he's in the best spirits. I guess

960
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:54.719
he's say fun, He's fine? Is that sure?

961
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:55.679
He's fine.

962
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:57.920
He's looking down at the water and you know, he

963
00:42:58.039 --> 00:42:59.679
just is flipping this pending around and that's when we

964
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:01.559
see some fireworks go off. And now we're at the

965
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:03.480
fourth of July Southport Festival.

966
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:04.920
Damn right, and.

967
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.400
We're on a seaside town and that's when we cut

968
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:09.440
to a beauty pageant where we meet Helen Shivers, who

969
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:11.639
was played by Sarah Michelle Geller. And that's when we

970
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.159
also meet her friends Julie, Barry and Ray as she's

971
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:15.960
on stage and they're watching her from this balcony as

972
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.679
she's being crowned as the Miss Salmon of the are

973
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:20.880
not Miss Samon I'm going back to even I was.

974
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:23.360
I was about to say she's being grabbed with the

975
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.320
beauty pageant of of their of their festival. And that's

976
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:28.679
when Max and all the rest of the crew or

977
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.880
excuse me not Max, Barry, Helen, Julie all go to

978
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:34.199
the parade and they're enjoying themselves. We meet Max played

979
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.159
by Johnny Gilecki, and he tries to give Julia a

980
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.719
drink and Barry is kind of drunk at this point.

981
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:40.159
He's not having it, so he gets into a little

982
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:40.480
bit of a fight.

983
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:42.840
I wouldn't call him drunk, I would call him charming charming.

984
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.679
Okay, my apologies, he was toast charming. Yes, yeah. So

985
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:47.079
they decide that they're going to go to the to

986
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:49.039
the beach and they're going to continue their party there,

987
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:50.840
and we cut to the beach and they're telling urban

988
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:52.840
legends about the Man with the Hook, except they're all

989
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:53.239
getting it.

990
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.920
Wrong, or they're all getting it right, different variations of

991
00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:58.679
the Man with the Hook.

992
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:01.239
Yeah, everybody's correcting each other. And so finally the two

993
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:03.280
begin to separate as Helen and Barry start to make

994
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:04.800
it on the beach, Ray and Julie go for a

995
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.119
walk and Julie gets fake spooped out by Ray as

996
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:08.760
he comes up on her, and that's when they get

997
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:11.119
new discussion about how she's supposed to going to college

998
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:12.760
in Boston and he's like, well, you could come to

999
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.760
New York with me. So they're they're together, but they're

1000
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:21.079
getting ready to separate because of college. Heartbreaking, heartbreaking Indeed,

1001
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:33.880
do You Even? Movie will be right back, Welcome back

1002
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:35.159
to Do You Even?

1003
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:35.639
Movie?

1004
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:41.480
So that's when they eventually decide to leave the beach,

1005
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:43.360
and that's when Julie's in the car with Barry, who

1006
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.440
is just being a complete asshole. She's put off by

1007
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.159
his drunken behavior. He jacks the radio volume up and

1008
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:50.039
then goes out of the sunroof of the car where

1009
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.480
he is just hooting and hollering, drops the bottle of

1010
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:54.599
liquor into the car, which spills into the car, and

1011
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:56.679
as they're trying to figure out what to do the bottle,

1012
00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:59.320
Ray accidentally plows into somebody that's on the road.

1013
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.440
Yeah, somebody walking on the side of the road. Yeah,

1014
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:03.320
dressed all in black.

1015
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:05.880
Dressed all in black. So Berry's covered in blood and

1016
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:08.280
they're freaking out and he's like, it's not my blood.

1017
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:10.079
And that's when they realize they hit something. They don't

1018
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.760
realize they hit somebody yet, so they grab flashlights. They

1019
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.039
go along the road. That's when they find the body.

1020
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.239
Well, well, first she finds the boot. Finds the boot. Yeah,

1021
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:20.440
I love that to say, that's the reveal. Here's probably

1022
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:21.880
an animal or something. She picks up a boot and

1023
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:25.880
she's like that, dear's wearing boots now. And one thing

1024
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:30.239
worth mentioning this film is the birth of the trope

1025
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:33.920
that became really popular, whether you were making a silly

1026
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.719
horror movie or you were making fun of horror movies. Yeah,

1027
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:41.000
of a movie opening with teenagers doing something awful, yes,

1028
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:43.599
and then promising it to be a secret, which became

1029
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:44.239
very common.

1030
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:46.480
In one film, one of my favorite, there's so many

1031
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:49.079
bits in the original Scary Movie that they steal from

1032
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.239
my note you did, like, yeah. One of my favorites though,

1033
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.760
is the sun roof because he starts getting hit by birds,

1034
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:56.360
like there's things. They're hitting him as they're driving. Like,

1035
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:58.440
if you haven't seen Scary Movie in a while, it's

1036
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:02.400
absolutely where the ret was. So they find the boot.

1037
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:04.719
Then they find the body and that's when they start

1038
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:08.280
freaking out because it's Barry's car. He's clearly drunk and

1039
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:10.760
they're gonna know right away the car smells like alcohol,

1040
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:12.599
and Julie's like, you know, we got to call the cops.

1041
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:14.559
Berry He's like, we can't do it, Like we're gonna

1042
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.280
go down for this, like we killed somebody. So that's

1043
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.719
when they decide that they are going to dump the body.

1044
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:21.840
They're going to dump the body on the docks. They're

1045
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:23.800
never gonna speak of this again. So they go to

1046
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:25.480
the docks. They're getting ready to dump the body and

1047
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:28.480
they're arguing about who's gonna push it in. Finally Helen's like, god,

1048
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:30.159
damn it, I'll do it. So she bends down and

1049
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.800
that's when the guy comes back alive, grabs at her

1050
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:34.880
and grabs her crown before they push him in the water.

1051
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.159
So now he's got her crown from the pageant.

1052
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.440
Yes, and a great first scare yes from the film,

1053
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.840
other than the scare of hitting the hidden person.

1054
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:44.880
Yeah. So Barry decides to jump back in. He swims

1055
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:46.480
down to the bottom and he goes to get the

1056
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:48.679
crown from him. As he pulls it away from the guy,

1057
00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:50.800
because the guy's grip is still on, his eyes come open.

1058
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.280
He looks at him, but Barry quickly resurfaces and that's

1059
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:55.400
when he's like, you know, hey, we're never talking about

1060
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:57.880
this again. We're taking this to our grave. Everybody's in

1061
00:46:57.920 --> 00:46:59.920
agreement with it, except for Julie. And that's when he

1062
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:01.840
he fucking grabs her, puts her against the car, and

1063
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:04.079
he's like, no, no, tell me that you are agreeing

1064
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:06.480
me with me on this, and Julie says, okay, we'll

1065
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:07.320
never speak of this again.

1066
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.519
I wish she had been like, tell me, Daria called

1067
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:11.159
her Daria.

1068
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:14.280
That's when they go to leave the dock and the

1069
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:16.280
camera zooms in and we see the pendant that the

1070
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:18.679
guy was twirling earlier is on the dock.

1071
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:24.679
And that is the beginning of many mysteries and many hints,

1072
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.159
many red herring red he indeed.

1073
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.119
So a year later, Julie's in college, it's summer again,

1074
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:33.159
and we find out Julie is being driven back home

1075
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.199
by her roommate to Southport for the summer, and she's

1076
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:40.079
not thrilled about it because she is clearly just not

1077
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:41.760
looking in the best way. And her mom picks us

1078
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:43.480
up right away because she gets home to her mom

1079
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:45.639
and her mom's like, are you on drugs? Like, I

1080
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:47.400
just wanted to throw that out just to see your reaction.

1081
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:51.360
Yeah, she looks more grizzled than you should from college, baby, Yeah,

1082
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.360
just a lot, you know. I mean, who knows, maybe

1083
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:57.639
she's popping riddling like their chicklets. Yeah, but she definitely

1084
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:01.239
one of the things I really appreciated on this most

1085
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.960
recent viewing, Yeah, was you can see how much.

1086
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.679
The weight of that secret messes with all of them, but.

1087
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.400
Especially her, Like well, but you're right though, it shows

1088
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.320
how it weighs on all of them in different ways,

1089
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:17.760
because like Sarah Michelle Geller's character like leans harder into

1090
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:21.679
being super shiny and perky and bubbly as to where

1091
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.000
Jennifer Love Hewitt's character is definitely more like what you

1092
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:28.480
might expect. Yeah, her eyes have bags under them. Yeah,

1093
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:30.639
her hair is always kind of a mess. She doesn't

1094
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.519
really care about her appearance now. And she also hasn't

1095
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:35.920
been keeping in touch with any of them any well,

1096
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.320
or even her own mother. Yeah, because her mother seems,

1097
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:39.960
you know, excited to find out what's been going on.

1098
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:42.000
And something I heard on this you that never heard before.

1099
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.239
Did her dad die while she was away and she

1100
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:48.079
never came back That I don't recall, because she says,

1101
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:50.079
your dad would be turning over his grave if he

1102
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:50.719
could see you now.

1103
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.840
I think her father passed away a while ago.

1104
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.000
Yeah, So her mom is like, you know, you know,

1105
00:48:57.079 --> 00:48:59.400
I just worry about you, and you know, I'm glad

1106
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.199
you're home. And that's when Julie goes into a room,

1107
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:03.159
into her bedroom, and she sees that there's a letter

1108
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:05.079
on her desk that's written to her, and she's like,

1109
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:06.480
you know who sent this? And she's like, oh, it

1110
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:08.599
just came to the mail And that's when she opens

1111
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:10.880
it up to see a note written in black that says,

1112
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:14.280
I know what you did last summer? Who farted?

1113
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.880
I couldn't resist. If you ever heard a guest you've.

1114
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:21.559
Heard Nick Swarson's about about who Farted? No, he talks

1115
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:23.599
about it's in one of its It's one of his

1116
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:26.199
original stand up routines, which is I think it's called

1117
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:28.719
Seriously Who Farted? And he talks about how he wants

1118
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.199
to go to a sporting event where they have the

1119
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.159
T shirt gun and he's like like, go to the crowd,

1120
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.119
be like who wants a T shirt? And everybody's like ah,

1121
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:36.719
and he's like nope, and then just blows his frame out.

1122
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.079
But before he says he goes who farted? She's just

1123
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:42.480
making the crowd go, hey, guys, guys, don't go over there.

1124
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:44.519
He like, you said it farted, like it might be bad.

1125
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:48.000
Oh my god, that's funny. That original stand up, it's

1126
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:50.880
really good. So she gets the note and the next day,

1127
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.239
Julie goes to visit Shivers Store trying to get Helen's

1128
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:55.559
New York number from her sister Elsa. And one thing

1129
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:57.920
I forgot to mention in the original party of the

1130
00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.840
Fourth of July party a year ago, she runs into

1131
00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:02.159
l Elsa, who was played by Bridget Wilson, and you

1132
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:03.920
can tell that her and her sister don't get along

1133
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:05.159
super well, so.

1134
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.679
You think yeah, just a little bit. Just there is

1135
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:11.480
a lot of tension between them that never lessens up. Well,

1136
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:13.000
I mean it does when one of them dies.

1137
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:13.920
Spoilers.

1138
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:18.000
Oh, I'm so sorry. This almost thirty year old film

1139
00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:21.480
that's a horror slasher movie does have some people dying.

1140
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:22.599
It it does, it doesn't.

1141
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:24.000
Where's the button?

1142
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:25.639
Spoiler alert.

1143
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:29.320
So she goes to Shiver's store and she's like, you know, Elise,

1144
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.039
I need Helen's New York number. And she's like, Helen's

1145
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:33.280
New York number and she's like, yeah, you know, I

1146
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:35.159
need a contactor. She's like, well, Helen's not New York.

1147
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:36.960
And that's when we find out that Helen went to

1148
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:38.920
New York briefly, it didn't work out, and now she's

1149
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:39.880
back working at the store.

1150
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:45.000
Yes, and she's clearly not the girl she was. No,

1151
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:46.639
she's beaten down by life.

1152
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:48.679
And smoking cigarettes immensely.

1153
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:51.000
Well, which luckily, I mean at least she looked cool.

1154
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.360
She did look cool. So that's when Julie shows the

1155
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:55.880
note to Helen, and Helen's like, you know, well, who

1156
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:57.880
could this be? Who could know? And that's when they

1157
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:00.280
also are asking if Barry has seen it yet. So

1158
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:03.079
they go to visit Barry at his parents' house, revealing

1159
00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:04.840
that he and Helen have broken up. So over a

1160
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:07.000
year's time, he and Helen had broken up, and Barry

1161
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:08.960
does not believe it. He's like, you know, this is

1162
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:11.679
some bullshit, Like somebody's fucking with us. Wait a minute,

1163
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:14.199
maybe it's Max. Because one thing I forgot to mention

1164
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.159
too is when they initially hit the body, Max is

1165
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:19.280
actually driving down that same road and they have to

1166
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.239
go hide like one of like Barry's puking in the

1167
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:24.119
grass and Max sees that there's something going on.

1168
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:27.000
Yeah, he just suspects something, but he's he's not he's

1169
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.599
an outsider in the group, so he's used to being

1170
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:30.920
kind of pushed.

1171
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:33.320
When I pushed away. So that's when they decide that

1172
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.519
they're gonna go visit Max at his job, but Barry

1173
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.239
wastes no time. Finds Max at the at the dock

1174
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:39.320
and he's like, hey, can I talk to you for

1175
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:40.639
a second, and then just goes in the back and

1176
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:42.079
threatens him with a hook and he's like, you know,

1177
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:43.480
if you tell anybody, I'll fucking kill you.

1178
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.280
Yeah he works at this fishery, Yeah, and yeah, he

1179
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:48.320
pulls a hook, right off of a big block of ice,

1180
00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:50.119
and Basis says, I will kill you if you ever

1181
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:51.880
talked to us again, and I mean it, yeah.

1182
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.880
And that Ryan Felippe anger fit that we can only.

1183
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:58.840
Talk about my god, No, like I wonder how his

1184
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:01.320
corneas we're doing after yelling that night.

1185
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:03.280
I've made that joke where it's like he just he

1186
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:05.519
lashes out this entire film to where it's like, all right,

1187
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.679
you know, I'll take a coke steps you, okay, No, no,

1188
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:09.239
tell us as.

1189
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:12.280
Good as the guy in disturbing behavior. You my god,

1190
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:13.559
you go to the problem with me?

1191
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:13.840
No?

1192
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:14.400
Why not?

1193
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:18.440
I said, no, Oh, disturbing behavior is so good.

1194
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:21.280
Hey, that might be good for a month.

1195
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.800
We're playing ooh that might be actually yeah, you right.

1196
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:26.840
So they leave the dock and as they're leaving the dock,

1197
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:29.760
they run into Ray, who is now also taken up

1198
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:31.800
as a fisherman at the dock too. So he's back

1199
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:34.079
in town as well, and he's working. He's got his

1200
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:36.960
own boat. And that's when we cut back to Max,

1201
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:38.880
who is in the back. He's preparing ice for the fish.

1202
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:41.079
He puts his hook on the ice, goes in starts

1203
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:43.079
dropping some crabs, in the water, comes back out and

1204
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.639
his hook's gone, and he doesn't see this, only the

1205
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:48.199
viewers do. And as he's leaning over this table, all

1206
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:50.800
of a sudden, a fisherman comes out, hooks him under

1207
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.960
the jaw, pulls him across the table, leaving a huge

1208
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:53.599
streak of blood.

1209
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:56.280
And for those who have never seen this film, which

1210
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.840
you should see it or have seen it, the killer

1211
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:04.119
is in a full body fisherman, well like a raincoat

1212
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:08.280
of fisherman, where yeah, that is very iconic. And and honestly,

1213
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:13.320
when it comes to that era of slasher movie, they

1214
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.880
did a pretty good job of having it be something original,

1215
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:19.159
something we wouldn't expect. Both the cloak, the fact that

1216
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:21.519
there's no face, but there's no mask, no mask, it's

1217
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:23.039
just kind of obscure.

1218
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:27.400
And the hook hook It sells it all everything, because.

1219
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:29.400
You know, otherwise we've got like scream, he's wearing a

1220
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:31.880
Halloween mask, he's got a knife, but we got the

1221
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:34.719
fishermen from I Know what you did last summer, or

1222
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:36.239
as I call him, I know what you did last summer.

1223
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:37.840
I'm like, oh god, I know he did less summers.

1224
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:39.079
In the back of the car, He's gonna kill you.

1225
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:41.840
God, oh God, watch out for die Hard.

1226
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:44.159
I hope they don't catch die Hard and shoot him.

1227
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:47.960
So that week got to Barry, who is going to

1228
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:50.239
the gym and he's going to work out, and he's

1229
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.400
getting ready to get dressed and leave, and hears from

1230
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:54.440
in the locker room. So he returns from the shower

1231
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:56.440
and he finds a polaroid of his car because keep

1232
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:58.280
in mind his car was used in the accident, and

1233
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.280
again on the back of it it says I know

1234
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.639
This photograph says I know written on the back, and

1235
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:06.360
so he goes back to his locker and he finds

1236
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:08.360
his jackets missing, which means it's car keys are missing.

1237
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:10.599
So he goes out to the front to the desk

1238
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:12.000
and he's like, hey, has anybody been in here? And

1239
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:13.440
the guy's like, now, just you and me. But then

1240
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:14.800
all of a sudden, we hear a car start. He

1241
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:16.960
races up front to see somebody's in his car stealing it.

1242
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:19.159
He runs after the car until the car gets to

1243
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:21.239
the end of the dock and then decides to stop,

1244
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:23.840
turns its headlights on and pursues right after him.

1245
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:27.920
Yeah, and this is one of the first big menacing.

1246
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:31.920
Chase sequences yeah. So he ends up getting cornered at

1247
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:33.280
him and he gets hit by the car as it

1248
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:35.639
drives forward, pushing him right through a building that ends

1249
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:38.000
up crashing, and that's when the figure gets out of

1250
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:40.880
the car and his rainslicker approaches him, shows off his hook.

1251
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:43.880
Barry screams, and then the scene cuts and we are

1252
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.519
now what happened. We're now at the hospital as Julia

1253
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:48.639
arrives along with Ray and Helen at the same time,

1254
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:50.440
and Barry tells them he couldn't see the face, and

1255
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:52.280
Julie's convinced that he was trying to kill him and

1256
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:55.079
they have to go to the police, and Barry is like, no, man,

1257
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:56.480
he wasn't trying to kill me. He's just trying to

1258
00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:59.639
scare me. Yeah, And that's when Ray makes a joke

1259
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:01.519
about you, well, you know, it's just a fishing village.

1260
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:03.320
There shouldn't be too many slickers to figure out. And

1261
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:05.400
that's when Barry's like, well, you know, buddy, you have

1262
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:10.079
one that we've all seen too. Yeah, So that's when

1263
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.639
they start to question it's Ray. Barry questions Ray having one,

1264
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:14.880
and Julie tries to convince them to go to the police,

1265
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:16.960
but Barry still against it, so Julie says they should

1266
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:19.000
try to reach out to the people that knew David Egan.

1267
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:21.159
And David Egan is the guy that they hit with

1268
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:23.159
their car that his body was found later, the.

1269
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:26.559
Guy they murdered, the guy they murd merds, they murds.

1270
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:30.800
I'm the one who's supposed to be tired, not you.

1271
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:33.440
So they need to find out who knew David Egan,

1272
00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:36.159
and that's when Julian Helen go to find Egan's ken

1273
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:38.320
via the local records on the internet, and they find

1274
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:40.800
out that Egan was also unfortunately responsible for the death

1275
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:42.920
of his fiance. But they find out that he had

1276
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:44.920
a sister, Missy, who still lives in the area in

1277
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:45.400
the Sticks.

1278
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.559
So they drive out there and that's where we get

1279
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:53.400
to meet a very very like broken, sad and hand yes,

1280
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.960
and she kills it in this small role. She really

1281
00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:58.840
makes it matter a lot.

1282
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.199
So they're sneaking around her house and that's when Missy

1283
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:03.199
hus An Hayes catches them and they're like, you know, oh,

1284
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:04.800
well our car broke down, you know, we need to

1285
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.199
use a phone. So she invites them in and Julie

1286
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:08.960
this whole time is kind of playing with her, trying

1287
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:10.559
to get some details from her, and that's when Missy

1288
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:14.440
tells her about David. She tells her about Susie and basically,

1289
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:17.000
you can, like Hendrick said, like she's just astraw. There's

1290
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:19.119
trauma all throughout this film, like you played out well,

1291
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:19.360
and the.

1292
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:24.320
Way she walks, the way Anne Hash's character moves. It's

1293
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:28.760
also a stark reality because if you watch the film

1294
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.320
the way I think you're supposed to, you're supposed to

1295
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:34.960
be on the side of the teenagers to some extent,

1296
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:39.719
Like even with the killing of the fishermen, it wasn't

1297
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:43.960
on purpose. No, they were only being moderately reckless. Yeah,

1298
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.480
would you say that's a first statement because because Jennifer

1299
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:49.320
love Hewitt was the character driving right, No.

1300
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:53.039
Ray was driving for Freddy's driving and buries in the

1301
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:53.480
back right.

1302
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:55.199
Well. But I mean, so my point is the drunkest

1303
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:57.760
people are not driving driving no, no, so they were

1304
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:01.840
being modestly irresponsible. The person on the side of the

1305
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:04.320
road was wearing all black in the middle of the night,

1306
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:05.440
on the side of a highway.

1307
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:05.760
Yep.

1308
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:10.719
So you I think are supposed to feel like bad

1309
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:12.719
for them. Yeah, because it's like they're right. This would

1310
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.360
ruin the beginning of all of their lives, and they

1311
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:18.079
all have the cruel irony of a slasher movie. Their

1312
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:21.280
whole lives ahead of them them. So it is that

1313
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:25.840
hits you hard. But Anne Hash's character is that moment

1314
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:31.400
where you realize, like, it's not about these fucking prissy teenagers.

1315
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:35.119
They're not the only ones so so haunted by what

1316
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:38.440
they did. They caused real harm and real damage in

1317
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:42.280
real life. It's not a game. It's not pretend they

1318
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:45.320
really hurt somebody. Yeah, somebody very deeply, not just the

1319
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:48.320
person they killed, because there's also a reference, as you're

1320
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:50.880
gonna get to say. But Anne Hash's character even mentions like, oh,

1321
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:52.519
mom lives in a nursing home. She didn't take it

1322
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:53.000
well when you.

1323
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:56.719
Because Missy lives alone. Yeah, she's a giant house to

1324
00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:59.039
herself and you can tell, like and she even says

1325
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:00.000
she doesn't get many visits.

1326
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.880
Yeah, And that's my point is like it becomes clear

1327
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:06.159
that the reason she's a loner is because of this

1328
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:08.719
deep trauma that's hit her and her family.

1329
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:09.159
Yeah.

1330
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:12.960
And at the epicenter are those four good looking teenagers

1331
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.639
that we're all so excited to root for yep. But

1332
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:18.199
this is kind of a moment where the reality kind

1333
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:22.039
of sets in, uh that they're not the only ones traumatized,

1334
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:23.280
they're not the only ones suffering.

1335
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:26.320
Yeah. And Missy also tells them that one of David's

1336
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:28.519
friends named Billy Blue, did come to visit her to

1337
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:30.280
pay his respects a while back, but she only saw

1338
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:31.559
him the one time and that's the only name she

1339
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:34.000
knows him by. So they quickly leave because Julie's just

1340
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:36.199
overcome with the motion being in his house and they're

1341
00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:38.320
sitting in their car smoking and talking, and that's when

1342
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:40.360
Missy comes up gives them a scare because she's like, hey,

1343
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:41.440
you forgot your cigarettes?

1344
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:43.639
Yeah, because she thinks they're waiting for triple.

1345
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:46.079
A triple a Yeah. So that's when they make their

1346
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:50.000
way back to town, and we see Helen and Julie

1347
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:52.920
kind of get into a little bit because Julie is

1348
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:54.840
she's just so distraught and Helen's like, you know, we

1349
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:56.280
just need to forget about this and move on and

1350
00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:57.960
stuffing to worry about, and she's like, well, it's easy

1351
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.679
for you to say. So they up up dropping Helen

1352
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:02.639
off at her house. Helen goes inside to her house.

1353
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:04.280
And as she gets in her house, you know, she

1354
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:05.639
talks to her dad for a little bit, goes in

1355
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.280
the kitchen, gets a drink, and then the killer enters

1356
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:11.599
her house. How rude, How rude. Indeed, So we see

1357
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:13.480
the fishermen right in the doorway of her house.

1358
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:17.800
This is the beginning of us starting to understand the mystery.

1359
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:21.559
M Hm, the killer. It's not a vampire.

1360
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:24.679
It's not a vampire because he can enter without being invited,

1361
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:28.719
without being invited, this man vampire fishermen. Mmm.

1362
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:32.559
I like that. Well, I mean, I guess there's some

1363
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:35.519
good fishing at night. I mean, you could just dive in.

1364
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:39.280
You don't need to breathe. So there's something wrong with

1365
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:39.599
the dead.

1366
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:42.840
Fuck you, fuck with me.

1367
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.440
Fuck with me, Dave. If you want to just turn

1368
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:47.800
the show to the Ruppelstiltskin.

1369
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.079
God, if we ever do an episode on that show,

1370
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:50.559
I don't know.

1371
00:59:54.599 --> 01:00:05.360
Do you even? Movie will be right back, welcome back

1372
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:07.119
to do you even? Movie?

1373
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:13.079
So the killer is inside her house, so we see

1374
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.159
her making her way around the house. She goes towards

1375
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:16.719
the stairs. We see the fisherman's at the top of

1376
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:18.920
the stairs. She has no idea he's in the house

1377
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:20.679
and they kind of play this up beautifully with the

1378
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:23.719
suspense not Kayda, they totally do. Because her dad's watching TV.

1379
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:26.320
You kind of think her dad might get it a little.

1380
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:29.599
Bit, you know, like they constantly are misdirecting you. It's

1381
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:31.320
one of the things that makes the movie so effective.

1382
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:33.480
So now the killer's in her room, hiding in her closet.

1383
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:36.480
She goes into her room and that's when she's brushing

1384
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:39.079
her hair, and her sister Elsa spooks her and she's like,

1385
01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:41.440
my god, you know your hair. You're so pathetic. And

1386
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:43.639
she's like, hey, we have inventory tomorrow. I needs it

1387
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:46.360
at the store at ten and Helen's like, well, I'm

1388
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:48.760
part of the parade tomorrow for the fourth July Festival.

1389
01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:50.239
I have to be on the float, so I can't

1390
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:52.159
do it. And that's what she calls her pathetic again,

1391
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:54.880
and she leaves. So then Helen gets ready for bed,

1392
01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:57.039
she goes to sleep. The killer's still in the closet.

1393
01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:59.159
So the next morning we wake up and we see

1394
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:01.519
that Helen's hair has been cut through the night.

1395
01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:04.239
Which kind of made me laugh because she like sits

1396
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:06.480
up freaking out. It's like a my hair's been cut

1397
01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:08.480
into a much more modern style.

1398
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:12.239
And then on her bedroom mirror written in red soon.

1399
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.760
Which honestly is the best I recommend any time you're

1400
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:20.559
gonna write anything on anyone's door mirror window should be soon.

1401
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:23.400
That that is good. So she calls Julie, who races

1402
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:25.440
to her house, but on the drive, Julie hears something

1403
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:27.599
scratching around in her trunk, so she pulls off the

1404
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:29.559
side of the road, opening the trunk, and that's when

1405
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.880
we see the body of Max covered in crabs crawling

1406
01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:36.360
around him out of him, and we mean literal crab,

1407
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:39.639
literal crab VD. So Max has crabs on him and

1408
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:42.280
he's dead in the trunk, and that's when she decides

1409
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:44.320
to just run from the car to Helen's house because

1410
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:44.960
she's close.

1411
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.559
And it's heinous. He's slimy, disgusting.

1412
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:49.679
So she finds Barry with Helen and they return to

1413
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.679
her car to find it empty now and that's when

1414
01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:55.280
Julie freaks out, and you know, she's like, you know,

1415
01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:57.280
he's waiting for us. We don't know what's gonna happen next.

1416
01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:59.519
He's after us, and that's when we get the infamous

1417
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:00.559
scream to the sky.

1418
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:03.840
What are you waiting for Well, but I want to

1419
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:04.440
say something.

1420
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:05.679
Yeah, you made a good point.

1421
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:09.280
Yeah, I don't know about the scene with the dead

1422
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:13.360
body because it's and yeah, it could just be a

1423
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:18.920
plot hole. Yeah, but in the film, literally she opens

1424
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:21.960
up her trunk and it is full to the brim,

1425
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:26.599
like withy crabs ice his body, but it's slimy because

1426
01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:29.760
you know he's from the water or whatever. And then

1427
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:32.199
when she opens it again, not only is he not there,

1428
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:34.440
not only are all the crabs not there, and and

1429
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:36.519
that would have been in the span of ten minutes. Yeah,

1430
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:40.519
but it's dry. I'm assuming it doesn't smell or else

1431
01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:42.000
her friends would be like, it does smell like a

1432
01:02:42.039 --> 01:02:45.360
seafood restaurant in here. Pardon me, wondered if maybe that

1433
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:46.719
was her guilt manifesting.

1434
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:49.199
It's a good point to make, honestly, because you.

1435
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:50.679
Even said, like, well, how would she know that so

1436
01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:52.440
and so died? It's like, well, maybe she was just

1437
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:56.000
afraid of the threats that were being made to him.

1438
01:02:56.559 --> 01:03:01.559
Because Ryan Felipe's character, uh Barry Barry is a real

1439
01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:04.000
wild card. He scares the ship out of her, and

1440
01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:07.519
she believes he would kill to protect his reputation, So

1441
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:09.880
part of me wonders if and and the fact that

1442
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:14.159
she saw him in Barry's coat, that all makes me

1443
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:17.159
think that maybe she had this like subconscious fear that

1444
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:20.199
Barry was gonna start killing people. And Barry had beat

1445
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:22.159
the crap out of that guy before, he had beat

1446
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:23.960
him up at the in the first fucking scene of

1447
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:25.239
the movie, he beats up on him.

1448
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:27.840
It's it's a really good point. The only the only

1449
01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:30.039
issue I have with it is the scratching in the

1450
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:31.519
back well.

1451
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:34.039
But I mean, if you get if you canna hallucinate

1452
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:37.960
a dead look, bro, you can. You may be able

1453
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:41.079
to see a hole full coat. You're not gonna hallucinate

1454
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:44.800
his sound, especially not a little scritchy scratch, scritchgy scratch,

1455
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:47.039
which was a cool callback to the hook to Hook.

1456
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:49.360
Yeah, I did notice that. Yeah. So they returned to

1457
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:51.840
Helen's house when they find Ray arriving, who gets pushed

1458
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:54.000
by Barry and he's convinced it's Ray like he And

1459
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:55.760
when I say pushed, he gets fucking punched out.

1460
01:03:55.960 --> 01:04:01.000
Yeah, he he socks him, and it's it's so aggressive

1461
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:04.960
and out of nowhere. It's hero It's pretty funny. And

1462
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:07.840
that Freddy Prinz has like a foot on him, so

1463
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:09.679
he like gets he has to jump up to like

1464
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:11.400
just clean his clock.

1465
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:14.119
Absolutely, So Julie tells them that they have to stick together,

1466
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:15.840
and they don't. They can't be against each other now

1467
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.199
because that's what he wants. And that's when she's convinced

1468
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:20.480
that they got to find this Billy Blue guy. So

1469
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:22.599
they go to check the yearbook that Missy graduated from,

1470
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:24.719
because he talks about the years she graduated, and that's

1471
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:26.679
when Julie and Helen discussed showing the book to Missy

1472
01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:28.800
to see if she can point out somebody to point

1473
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:30.960
out who Billy Blue is, and Helen offers to go

1474
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:33.519
with Julie, but Julie tells her no, she needs to

1475
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:35.639
stay the parade because he may show up at the parade.

1476
01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:37.559
And I love Helen's response, He's like, I don't want

1477
01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:42.519
him to show up. So that's when they're convinced that,

1478
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:44.719
you know, that's what they gotta do. Ray of course,

1479
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:46.519
is like, hey, what if we just leave town and

1480
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:47.480
never speak of this again?

1481
01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:48.760
That would have been my move.

1482
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:50.960
Yeah, what if we just leave? And that's when Julie's like,

1483
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:53.239
you know, we I've tried running. I'm tired of doing it.

1484
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:54.880
We just have to face this head on. So now

1485
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:56.719
we cut the Fourth of July parade as we see

1486
01:04:56.760 --> 01:04:58.840
Helen on top of the float moving through the town,

1487
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:00.760
but also Barry a seat at the front of the

1488
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:02.559
float as well, kind of keep and watch for her.

1489
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:04.599
And she sees a guy in the crowd that looks

1490
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:07.039
exactly like the killer, so Barry runs off after him,

1491
01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:09.840
and that's when he ends up tackling a brittle old

1492
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:10.519
man on the dock.

1493
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:13.039
Well, I mean they are, for the record, the only

1494
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.199
type of old man that hangs out on docks are brittle.

1495
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:15.519
Brittle.

1496
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:18.039
Yeah, it's actually a federal law. It's osha.

1497
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:19.960
I just feeled every time I watch this. I feel

1498
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:21.920
bad for that guy because it looks like he's having

1499
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:27.920
a heart attack, Like, no, it's really sad. So he

1500
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:30.159
tackles the guy it's clearly not him, and that's when

1501
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:32.639
Julie returns to Missy's house. She finds Missy out back

1502
01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:36.360
skinning animals because that's what Missy does, and she's gotten

1503
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:38.159
fish at this point, and back on the float, we

1504
01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:39.960
go back to Helen, who catches side of the fisherman

1505
01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:42.159
who is now on one of the balconies as she passes,

1506
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:44.320
and he just gives her a shiny hey, here's my

1507
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:45.599
hook as she goes by.

1508
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:49.239
It's kind of nice, you know, to be noticed, my godness.

1509
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:52.920
So that's when Missy is out back with Julie and

1510
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:55.199
Julie explains what happened last year, that it was in

1511
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:57.840
an accident, and Missy says that she knows that, you know,

1512
01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:00.679
David wasn't murdered, he committed suicide acts. And that's when

1513
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:03.280
she brings up a note that she got and it's

1514
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:05.400
the same note that Julie has, matching the handwriting, so

1515
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:07.320
she's like, this isn't a suicide note, this is a

1516
01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:11.400
death threat. So David is now supposedly been killed by somebody,

1517
01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:13.760
and now they don't think that they killed David.

1518
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:17.239
Actually, but that means who did they?

1519
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:18.039
Who could it be?

1520
01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:22.159
Could it be any number of red herring.

1521
01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:25.599
So that's when Julie goes to leave back to town,

1522
01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:27.719
revealing that she note that she thinks, you know that

1523
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:30.239
it's not a suicide note. Missy is not convinced, and

1524
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:32.760
Julie talks about, you know, well, I saw a tattoo

1525
01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:34.360
that said Susie and she's like, well, my brother didn't

1526
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:37.079
have a tattoo. Even more putting forth that it is

1527
01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:37.800
not David.

1528
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:40.960
Than Kiss, but the identity is unknown of who they

1529
01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:42.800
believe they may have killed her.

1530
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:44.559
So now it's later that night. We cut to the

1531
01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:46.840
beauty pageant where Helen sits on the stage. Because she

1532
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:49.079
was the winner last year, she is now as the

1533
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:51.400
watcher on the program, and Barry watches from the balcony,

1534
01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:53.159
just like the beginning with all three of them. The

1535
01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:55.559
pageant gets underway and Helen watches in horror as the

1536
01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:57.760
first person goes up, but then looks up to see

1537
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:00.840
that Barry has the fisherman standing behind him.

1538
01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:03.280
She watched in horror as the person who goes up

1539
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:05.960
to performance is clearly like thirty five years old.

1540
01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:08.519
Yeah, you did point that out, so I'm not wrong, No,

1541
01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:11.280
you're not. She starts freaking out, and you know, she

1542
01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:13.320
runs into the crowd. The crowd's trying to stop her,

1543
01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:14.760
you know, they're trying to make sure that she's okay.

1544
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:16.880
A cop comes in to intervene. But while this is happening,

1545
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:19.199
we see Barry just getting killed with this hook.

1546
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:20.840
Yeah, he's getting the fuck killed out of here.

1547
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:22.920
He is stabbed at death, and that's when the offer

1548
01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:24.119
is like, all right, well we'll go up and check.

1549
01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:25.840
So he takes Helen up, tells her to hold back,

1550
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:27.760
and he goes up there and they don't find anything

1551
01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:29.920
because he's clearly not looking hard enough because as they

1552
01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:31.639
go to leave, blood is dripping off one of the

1553
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:32.760
crates that's up on the balcony.

1554
01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:38.239
Hey, cops are never incompetent, not never, not irl, not

1555
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:38.920
in movies.

1556
01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:42.760
That's why we're bad cops. So the officer offers to

1557
01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:45.239
take Helen home, as she's distraught and no one believes her.

1558
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.519
Back at her house, Julie searches for more information on

1559
01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:49.400
David Egan, going to the same website she went to

1560
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:51.920
last time. Back on the cop car, the officer questions

1561
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:53.719
Helen about the fisherman and you know, is he the

1562
01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:55.760
one that is he us a hook to cut your hair?

1563
01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:57.719
And she's like, no, he us scissors, you asshole. Like

1564
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.400
they're bantering back and forth and arguing for a bit,

1565
01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:02.679
and I got to say, on this watch the cops

1566
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:03.880
really not being a dick.

1567
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:09.639
Well and and for the record, these kids are most

1568
01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:14.880
of them are just the most snotty spoiled, you know.

1569
01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:16.560
Well the fun when they go to see Barry, when

1570
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:18.159
they reconnect with him, he's in a mansion on the

1571
01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:18.720
on the water.

1572
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:21.920
Oh yeah, well that's why. But that's why Barry's so intense.

1573
01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:25.920
Barry has everything to lose as to where like the

1574
01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:29.439
other three have a lot of potential for their lives.

1575
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:31.039
You know, one wants to be a beauty queen, one

1576
01:08:31.079 --> 01:08:33.000
wants to go to college and have some big job

1577
01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:36.359
and blah blah blah blah blah. He's already there. Barry

1578
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:40.199
is wealthy, he's set for life. And the one thing

1579
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:44.840
he doesn't need is this kindshit, this kind of thing,

1580
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:47.920
and and and by the way, speaking of that scene

1581
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:51.920
where he is at the mansion, it's worth pointing out

1582
01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:56.119
I don't think that Barrys. And you notice how how

1583
01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:59.039
distant he is with his mother. I don't think that

1584
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:01.640
that's just because he's a rich asshole. I think that's

1585
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:06.600
because of what he the person he became after the murder. Yeah,

1586
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:09.119
I really do, because all of them.

1587
01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:12.239
Are off well, I think it's worth pointing out too

1588
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:14.279
that you I mean, you just said it, like, we

1589
01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:16.399
see his mom and we see Julie's mom, We don't

1590
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:18.960
see anybody else except for Helen's dad, which we don't

1591
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:19.439
even talk to.

1592
01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:20.359
Yeah, that's true.

1593
01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:21.800
So, I mean we really don't see much of the

1594
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:24.720
parental life except for hell except for Julie being like

1595
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:26.520
Julie's mom being like, you know, you never come around

1596
01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:28.439
anymore and been worried about you. We don't really talk

1597
01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:29.319
to any of the other parents.

1598
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:31.920
Yeah, it's true. It, which is also a trope of

1599
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:35.560
a lot of these uh these teen screams slasher movies,

1600
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:36.239
is less parents.

1601
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:39.119
And I also feel like there was mentioned that Helen's

1602
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:43.560
mom ran off. That does sound no, it does sound right, Yeah,

1603
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:45.640
So I mean it's definitely the home might explained where

1604
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:47.840
our older sister is the queen bitch. Yeah, that's like

1605
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:50.239
daddy put me in charge of the store. Yeap, that

1606
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:53.680
would totally make sense. So that is when they decide

1607
01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:56.279
that they have to take a detour around the down

1608
01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:58.159
an alley because as the cops driving through the street,

1609
01:09:58.199 --> 01:09:59.760
one of the streets are blocked off. So he's like, okay,

1610
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:01.720
we got get on this alley and they see a

1611
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:03.960
guy struggling with this vehicle at the end of the alley,

1612
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:06.680
and he just happens the in fisherman gear, but Helen

1613
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:08.399
doesn't see this. The cop gets out, he's like, I'll

1614
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:10.119
be right back, and that's when Helen sees that it's

1615
01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:12.560
the killer too late. The cop is stabbed right in

1616
01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:14.720
the gut right before her, and Helen's freaking out now

1617
01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:16.119
because she's locking the back of this cop car.

1618
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:22.199
And another reason why it's so such a great killer design. Anybody,

1619
01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:25.680
anybody in that town is going to have a slicker. Yeah, anybody.

1620
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:27.560
So a cop seeing the guy in slicker, he's gonna

1621
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:28.800
be like, oh yeah, yeah, I'll go help this guy.

1622
01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:30.239
Yeah. He'll be like, oh yeah, well I didn't. I

1623
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:32.079
mean like this before smartphones is like, I didn't listen

1624
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:33.840
to the radio. It's probably gonna rain. Yeah, rains all

1625
01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:35.000
the time when you live on the ocean.

1626
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:36.720
So she is frantically trying to get out of the

1627
01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:39.039
cop car. She finally kicks the window out, climbs through it,

1628
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:41.199
and the killer is right in pursuit behind her back.

1629
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:45.359
Julie finds out that Susie's fiancea or Susie David's fiance

1630
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:49.159
is survived by her father. Benjamin willis a local fisherman

1631
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:50.600
in Southport.

1632
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:55.079
Which is so questionable because how many people are fishermen

1633
01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:55.680
in this town?

1634
01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:56.399
Crazy?

1635
01:10:56.640 --> 01:10:58.800
No, more than nearly all of them.

1636
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:02.000
So hell A racist to Shiver's store as she's running

1637
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:03.800
through town and she gets help from Elsa, which this

1638
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:05.479
was a part that you and I talked about where

1639
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:07.560
it's just like, why is it that so many people

1640
01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:10.039
in horror films when people are panicking?

1641
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:13.760
Oh yeah, yeah, in horror movies, it's like the moment

1642
01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:16.319
you're pounding at a door, please open up, somebody's gonna

1643
01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:18.199
kill me, all of a sudden, you like forget how

1644
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.840
to understand human emotions or that there's an urgency. Yeah,

1645
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:23.600
you just like go like, oh, just let me get

1646
01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:25.359
my key and open up this fanto.

1647
01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:27.399
It's like I made the joke. It's like, is this

1648
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:29.600
a prank? We've been fourth of July to death tonight?

1649
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:30.720
That killed me?

1650
01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:32.880
I like how You're like, You're like, I got a

1651
01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:33.239
good one.

1652
01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:35.479
I'm gonna remember for the show. Yep, dick, yep.

1653
01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:40.039
So for so Elsa Finally, Elsa finally lets her in

1654
01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:42.039
and she's like, you know, lock the back door, lock

1655
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:44.159
the front door, like somebody something's going on, And she's like,

1656
01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:45.920
we know what's going on. She's like, just listen to me,

1657
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.000
damn it, go do this. So Elsa immediately goes to

1658
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:52.039
the back door, locks it and then is ambushed by

1659
01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:54.680
the killer, who slices her right across the throat and

1660
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:56.760
we see blood splatter across the window. But she gets

1661
01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:59.399
a scream out as Helen is trying to call the police.

1662
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:01.920
And then we see him in the second he's carrying

1663
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:04.279
her with the hook dragged rip page. Yes, oh he's

1664
01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:05.960
got Dragg's right.

1665
01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:08.720
Oh yeah, So he's carrying her across the store and

1666
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:11.039
that By this point, Helen's like, okay, something's not right.

1667
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:13.279
So she calls to Elsa, no answer, and this is

1668
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.079
a beautiful sequence of tension and terror because we are

1669
01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:20.119
in this department store that is mostly blocked out, like

1670
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:22.319
I mean, it's dimmed throughout. There's some light music playing

1671
01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:23.560
and it's just silent.

1672
01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:25.159
Yeah, it's super creepy.

1673
01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:27.600
So she starts wandering around and that's when she goes

1674
01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:30.239
towards the front and these mannequins are covered in plastic,

1675
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:32.000
and that's when she realizes one of the mannequins is

1676
01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:34.680
actually the fisherman who lunches out at her. So Helen

1677
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:37.680
starts running through the Shiver's department store, finds a dumb waiter,

1678
01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:40.640
and goes to the second floor, right as the fisherman

1679
01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:43.199
also reaches the second floor, So that's when she decides

1680
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:44.680
that she's just going to jump out the window into

1681
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:46.399
a trash pile. So now she's outside.

1682
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:50.199
Uh, you worked a retail quite a bit. Yeah. How

1683
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:51.479
creepy is it when it's just.

1684
01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:53.439
You, very very creepy?

1685
01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:53.760
Yeah?

1686
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:54.760
I know that.

1687
01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:58.479
Nowadays it's become called liminal spaces. Yeah, the idea you're

1688
01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:01.239
somewhere where lots of people are normal, but lots of

1689
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:02.279
people aren't there right now.

1690
01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:03.840
Did I ever tell you the story about when I

1691
01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:06.039
was taking trash out at one of the malls I

1692
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:07.479
worked when I was doing Fye.

1693
01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:11.239
I don't think so, so I believe it was.

1694
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:12.640
Yeah, So it would have been. It would have been

1695
01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:15.840
kim Wood Mall in Cincinnati, and I was taking the

1696
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:19.119
trash out one night and I had to go down

1697
01:13:19.399 --> 01:13:21.880
basically two long corridors because our store was in the

1698
01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:23.960
center and the trash was like on the other side

1699
01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:26.760
by one of the exits, and I had to go

1700
01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:29.520
down these two corridors and I get outside and there

1701
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:33.560
are three kids standing by this dumpster beating the shit

1702
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:34.640
out of a homeless guy.

1703
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:39.560
Jesus Christ, and I immediately.

1704
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:41.239
Go back inside. I called the police, and these kids

1705
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:43.199
are banging on the door because they saw me. They're

1706
01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:45.960
banging on the door because they're like, because you're I'm

1707
01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:48.760
a snitch, I'm a witness and everything. Yeah. Well, then

1708
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:50.920
I start making my way back down the corridor. They're

1709
01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:53.520
banging on every single fucking exit door as I go

1710
01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:56.680
down this corridor, like almost tracking me back to this building.

1711
01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.239
So finally I got to the mall security. I called

1712
01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:01.920
him and he he stood around the store until I

1713
01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:04.199
locked up and walked outside. Right as I'm leaving the

1714
01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:06.119
parking lot, I see the kids come around the building

1715
01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:07.199
and I'm fucking bolting.

1716
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:08.279
Sure.

1717
01:14:08.439 --> 01:14:11.960
It was scary, Like I I completely it was. It

1718
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:14.399
was one of those situations where I had a lot

1719
01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:16.520
of weird experiences of that mall. That was the one

1720
01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:18.399
that I literally feared for my life at one point.

1721
01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:22.800
Kenwood is extremely close to Cincinnati. It's basically a Cincinnati. Yeah.

1722
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:26.079
For those who don't know Ohio, Cincinnati is one of

1723
01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:30.680
the largest cities in the state, and therefore you get

1724
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:35.319
all of the funny story though, Oh you got a

1725
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:38.359
hand job. But the three kids ended up getting arrested

1726
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:40.920
that night because they were also found carrying if I

1727
01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:45.880
remember correctly, three stilettos, and I think one I'm had

1728
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:46.159
a gun.

1729
01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:46.840
I'm not mistaken.

1730
01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:50.439
Look, I'm not trying to be like a hippie about it,

1731
01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:52.000
but like, if they want to wear high heels, I

1732
01:14:52.039 --> 01:14:54.640
don't see what the big deal is. You know, that's

1733
01:14:54.680 --> 01:14:55.239
their lives.

1734
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:57.039
They had three knives and a gun, that's all I know.

1735
01:14:57.640 --> 01:14:59.479
Oh, you could have taken them. That could have taken

1736
01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:03.000
them if you hadn't lost your yellow belt.

1737
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:06.119
If I hadn't. Ah, man, you're right, God damn yellow belt.

1738
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:08.840
You could have literally taken your yellow belt out but shaw,

1739
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:11.239
and they would have all been like, man, let's get

1740
01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:11.640
out of here.

1741
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:14.359
I do remember my manager coming in the next morning

1742
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:15.560
and he's like, hey, why do you stick out trash

1743
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:18.039
that night? And I was like, go talk to Ralph,

1744
01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:20.880
the security guard, and then Ralph was like, it has

1745
01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:29.560
a death kid, You're all gonna die. So so Helen's

1746
01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:31.560
outside now. And this is about the time that Julia

1747
01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.000
arrives back at the location where the pageant is. It's

1748
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.680
completely empty. Everybody's gone home, and so she makes her

1749
01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:39.520
way outside just as Helen is back outside and she

1750
01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:42.079
is not. She has no idea where to go. Suddenly,

1751
01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:44.359
fireworks start going off, so she follows the fireworks. She

1752
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:46.800
sees the parade is going again. She's going right towards

1753
01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:49.560
the parade, and right as she turns, the fisherman grabs her,

1754
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:51.399
pulls her to the side, while these fireworks in the

1755
01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:54.239
parade are calling. She gets stabbed in like in all

1756
01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:55.960
the audience of the fireworks in the parade like. It

1757
01:15:56.119 --> 01:15:58.920
is a really intense sequence that I cannot recommend enough.

1758
01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:00.600
But a great sequence and probably probably one of the

1759
01:16:00.680 --> 01:16:02.840
reasons you picked it as a summer Yeah, a summer

1760
01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:05.520
film because of the direct reference to the fourth of July.

1761
01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:09.079
Yep, do you Even? Movie?

1762
01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:20.319
Will be right back, welcome back to do You Even? Movie?

1763
01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:27.000
So that is when we lose Helen unfortunately, and Julie

1764
01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:29.039
returns to town, making her way to the docks. She's

1765
01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:30.760
searching for Ray and she finds him on his boat

1766
01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:32.520
and she tells him that she believes the killer is

1767
01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:35.680
ben Willis, who killed Egan. Before they hit him, they

1768
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:38.199
hit ben Amine and Ray invites Julie on the boat

1769
01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:40.000
so they can discuss it. And that's when Julie sees

1770
01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:42.000
the name of his boat is Billy Blue.

1771
01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:46.800
And I want to say, sincerely, what a great twist? Yeah,

1772
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:54.479
because let me finish no, No, because to find out

1773
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:57.359
not only is the person you wronged not the person

1774
01:16:57.439 --> 01:16:59.800
you thought, but the person you wronged was a fucking

1775
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:04.039
murderer themselves. Yeah, that's such a great twist for it

1776
01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:05.760
to be like, oh, no, it was this guy who

1777
01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:09.079
just probably murdered somebody, right, I mean definitely, Yeah, murdered

1778
01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:11.000
somebody right before you encountered him.

1779
01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:11.680
And that's why good.

1780
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:14.600
But then that also makes sense. Why was he all

1781
01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:16.720
in black? Why was he walking on the highway? Why

1782
01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:18.920
was he you know, why was it so secretive? And

1783
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:20.319
why did he never go to the police.

1784
01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:20.560
Yeah?

1785
01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:24.279
Well, but what I always wondered is like he must

1786
01:17:24.319 --> 01:17:27.199
have just been festive though he was, like he was like,

1787
01:17:29.600 --> 01:17:31.840
if I wait, if I send them I know what

1788
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:33.560
you did last summer in the winter, they're gonna think

1789
01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:38.279
it was the summer before. So I'm gonna wait, you

1790
01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:42.760
gotta minimum the following summer. There we go, the only way,

1791
01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:44.680
only way to do it, because it's like I can't

1792
01:17:44.760 --> 01:17:49.399
just say I know what you did last season doesn't carry.

1793
01:17:49.880 --> 01:17:51.800
He's just like sitting there work shopping at all night,

1794
01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:53.840
like with a with a flashlight under his blanket.

1795
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:56.439
The one thing I will say thinking about the about

1796
01:17:56.439 --> 01:17:58.359
the twist in regards to it, is like, yeah, he

1797
01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:00.199
killed Egan and then got killed but then got hit

1798
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:03.439
by that car. It makes me think of spoiler alert

1799
01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:05.520
if you haven't seen the film Unknown with Liam Neeson,

1800
01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:08.359
spoiler alert. It makes me think of how weak that

1801
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:11.000
twist was in that film where it was revealed of

1802
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:12.520
what he was, and I was just like, well, the

1803
01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:14.920
company just would have fucking killed him then, yeah, there

1804
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:17.439
would have been none of him solving who he is.

1805
01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:19.960
I watched that at the dan Berry Dollar Cinema.

1806
01:18:20.079 --> 01:18:21.800
Oh Dan Berry, I miss Dan Barry.

1807
01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:22.720
I miss you, Dan Barry.

1808
01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:25.560
So by this point now Julie is freaking out. She's like,

1809
01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:27.760
oh my god, you're the killer. So she flees and

1810
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.000
she's running across the dock, Rays chasing after her, and

1811
01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:32.199
that's when Ray is punched out by a fisherman and

1812
01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:33.880
he's like, get on the boat, child, like you know,

1813
01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:36.640
I'll take care of you. So he punches ray out

1814
01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:38.800
and Julie gets on the boat and she's entering the

1815
01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:42.000
loft of Blow and that's when she sees a hat

1816
01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:45.239
like the killer has. She makes her way into the

1817
01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:47.359
room and that's when she sees a shrine of news

1818
01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:51.720
paper clippings, both about Susie's death. She sees pictures of

1819
01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:54.359
her and her friends all throughout this movie that we've

1820
01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:57.239
seen scenes of, and that's when she puts it together

1821
01:18:57.479 --> 01:19:00.359
that he is Ben Willis, and Ben will Is in

1822
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:02.760
fact the killer in I Know what you did last summer.

1823
01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:06.239
That's a cliche. We need to bring back the shrine.

1824
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:06.800
The shrine.

1825
01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:12.640
Yeah, shrines were everywhere in everything. Yeah, so I got

1826
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:15.600
to bring back the shrine. Even American Nightmare, American Nightmare

1827
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:19.159
had a shrine. You're not wrong, So American Nightmare, which

1828
01:19:19.159 --> 01:19:20.680
was if I'm.

1829
01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:22.479
Wrong, American Nightmare also has a shot at him at

1830
01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:24.319
the coffee shop that it's like, how did he get that?

1831
01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:25.680
You mean?

1832
01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:25.840
She?

1833
01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:26.279
Oh?

1834
01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:30.760
She, Yeah, you're right. Never mind, I'm quitting the show.

1835
01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:35.119
Well without there's a lot about the coffee shop that's

1836
01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:37.239
left unanswered in an American Nightmare.

1837
01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:39.479
Yeah, yeah, you're right, because I just remembered who Yeah,

1838
01:19:40.399 --> 01:19:42.800
let's get back to the we'll talk about American Nightmare, get.

1839
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:44.000
Back to spoiling a different movie.

1840
01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:47.800
Yeah, So that's when you know, she tries to escape him,

1841
01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:49.880
and Ben not giving away his hand yet, he's like,

1842
01:19:49.920 --> 01:19:52.119
you know, oh, you know, are you okay? Like, you know,

1843
01:19:52.159 --> 01:19:55.800
it's fourth of July. Kids should be out having fun, drinking, partying,

1844
01:19:56.279 --> 01:20:00.560
running over people, getting away with murder. And that's when

1845
01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:03.640
she is completely you know, of the understanding that that

1846
01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:05.880
is who it is and he is not hiding any point.

1847
01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:08.119
So that's when he also reveals his hook and Julie

1848
01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:10.680
goes off running, realizing that the boat has now left

1849
01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:12.119
the dock. So they're not at the dock anymore.

1850
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:13.560
Yeah, No, they're at sea.

1851
01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:15.800
Yeah. So Ray comes to and he gets in a

1852
01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:18.560
small boat races off towards them. Julie, trying to arm herself,

1853
01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:20.680
gets a flare, but right as she grabs the flare,

1854
01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:23.039
Ben speeds the boat up, knocking her to the ground.

1855
01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:24.760
The flare goes into the water, so now she is

1856
01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:27.680
unarmed and he's watching her, of course from the deck,

1857
01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:29.439
because I love that scene where she looks up and

1858
01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:30.560
he's just like, I fucking got you.

1859
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:33.000
Yeah, no, no, this is such a great finale.

1860
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:33.359
Yes.

1861
01:20:33.720 --> 01:20:35.680
So, Ray, catching up to the boat, climbs under the

1862
01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:37.720
boat and he starts facing off with Ben and his

1863
01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:40.239
hook right on, and Julie makes her way below deck

1864
01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:43.000
is rased fighting off Ben. Julie emerges from the bottom

1865
01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:44.840
right as Ben is in front of her, and he

1866
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:47.560
knocks Ray into the water. She goes back down as

1867
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:49.760
Ben makes his way down and Julie quickly hides in

1868
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:51.640
the ice box of the boat and that's where she

1869
01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:56.119
discovers the bodies of Helen and Barry disturbingly.

1870
01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:58.399
In just hundreds of pounds of ice ice like.

1871
01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:00.560
She goes to move one thing and Helen's body comes out.

1872
01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:02.279
She gets freaked out, goes back and she puts her

1873
01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:05.439
hands on Barry's cold face. And Ray is next scene

1874
01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:07.439
in the water. He's grabbing at the net and begins

1875
01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:09.960
to climb the mass back onto the ship. Julie climbs

1876
01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:11.880
out of the ice box right up to Ben, who

1877
01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:13.840
is quickly knocked to the ground by Ray with the hook.

1878
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:16.479
He swings a rope with a hook on it, which

1879
01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:19.600
knocks him out, and that's when Ben's hand gets hooked

1880
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:22.640
onto the rope. Ray activates it. Ben gets pulled up

1881
01:21:22.680 --> 01:21:24.479
and his hand gets fucking set.

1882
01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:26.520
Gets shot up to the top of the mast of

1883
01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:30.199
the boat, probably a good eighteen feet yep. And then

1884
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:31.840
right when he hits the top, it just takes his

1885
01:21:31.960 --> 01:21:33.680
hand right off with the hook still on it. Which,

1886
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:37.039
by the way, if you've ever hung out with grizzled

1887
01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:41.399
sea workers, yeah, I have one time. That's how they

1888
01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:43.479
describe how quick you lose a hand on a boat,

1889
01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:45.479
I can imagine. And then all of a sudden, a

1890
01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:47.520
rope's moving quick and your hand's gone.

1891
01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:52.399
So his hand is severed. Ray joins Julie, and that

1892
01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:54.960
is when we see that Ben is also thrown into

1893
01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:58.239
the water. They get stopped by the police. Ray explains

1894
01:21:58.279 --> 01:22:00.600
he visited Missy posing as a friend out of his guilt,

1895
01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:03.079
and the police end up going to pull up the net,

1896
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:05.079
revealing that Ben's severed hand is in it, but no

1897
01:22:05.239 --> 01:22:07.960
body is there, so his hand's still clutching the hook,

1898
01:22:07.960 --> 01:22:09.279
and that's when the cops like, oh, I don't worry,

1899
01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:12.000
the body'll turn up sooner or later. Now it's one

1900
01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:14.760
year later. Julie's in college in Boston, getting ready to

1901
01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:16.640
take a shower as she's talking to Ray on the phone.

1902
01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:18.680
Her friend tells her that she has mail, so she

1903
01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:21.279
exits the shower room, goes out to find an envelope

1904
01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:24.560
written exactly like Ben's handwriting from the original note, and

1905
01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:26.479
she opens it up to find a party invitation for

1906
01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:29.600
a pool party. She's calm, everything's good now. She goes

1907
01:22:29.640 --> 01:22:32.279
back into the shower room. It's completely steamed over and

1908
01:22:32.359 --> 01:22:35.319
she approaches one of the doors that's written I Still

1909
01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:37.960
Know on it. She looks around, sees no one, and

1910
01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:40.399
then suddenly hears a crash as the killer crashes through

1911
01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:43.279
the glass. Ending nineteen ninety seven's I know what you

1912
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:44.039
did last summer?

1913
01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:49.079
And what an ending? I really do love. I need

1914
01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:49.720
to read the book.

1915
01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:51.079
Oh, it's the good. Book's good.

1916
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:53.600
I'm curious how much of the book is in the movie.

1917
01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:56.079
Not very much. There's not a single death except for

1918
01:22:56.119 --> 01:22:56.920
the your initial.

1919
01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:58.800
Well that doesn't matter. The boat is the ending on

1920
01:22:58.840 --> 01:22:59.800
a boat? No? Oh?

1921
01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:01.920
No, wow, you want me to spoil the book.

1922
01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:05.640
Well, it's only been like sixty seven years or something.

1923
01:23:05.760 --> 01:23:06.760
Yeah, Barry is the killer?

1924
01:23:07.159 --> 01:23:07.880
Oh really?

1925
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:10.560
Barry turns out to be related to who they hit,

1926
01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:13.159
and he goes to strangle Julie that's when Ray shows up.

1927
01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:16.159
I think he either kills Barry or knocks him out.

1928
01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:16.960
I think he knocks him out.

1929
01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:19.960
That is a hell of a twist. It's a really

1930
01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:20.640
strong twist.

1931
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:22.560
So would you like to know what the budget of

1932
01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:24.199
the film was? Where'd you like to guess? Uh?

1933
01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:30.399
No, I think I know. Okay, it's under twenty yep

1934
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:33.000
because back then that was the way they did things, correct.

1935
01:23:33.399 --> 01:23:38.199
Uh, Fifteen seventeen million dollars is the budget. Okay, opening

1936
01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:41.560
weekend for US and Canada, it makes fifteen million dollars.

1937
01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:45.039
Released on October nineteenth of nineteen ninety seven, box office

1938
01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:47.880
totaling one hundred and twenty five point three million dollars.

1939
01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:52.560
Now I find that interesting, okay, because I looked up

1940
01:23:52.680 --> 01:23:56.720
Screw was curious and Screams budget is reported at fourteen

1941
01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:59.640
to fifteen million yep, Which it makes sense. They didn't

1942
01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:01.000
know what a big hit it was gonna be. They

1943
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:03.680
didn't know how popular this concept was. Yeah, but their

1944
01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:05.279
box office was one seventy three.

1945
01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:10.439
Damn, that's fifty ish o almost fifty lower than this. Yeah, damn,

1946
01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:13.399
that's still gonna be higher higher. Yeah, but that's still

1947
01:24:13.399 --> 01:24:16.199
a good money maker. No, they're both huge, huge, huge success. Yeah,

1948
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:18.319
I just was curious. That's interesting what they put in. Yeah,

1949
01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:20.119
speaking of screen real quick, just off topic, did you

1950
01:24:20.479 --> 01:24:22.720
did you know that Skeet Alric almost gave away the

1951
01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:24.840
twist of the movie when he was doing pr for it,

1952
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:27.840
right like right when he got cast. No, so he's

1953
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:30.640
doing I heard this on Michael Rosenbaum's podcast. He was

1954
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:33.000
talking to him and Skeet was doing pr for something.

1955
01:24:33.079 --> 01:24:34.640
It wasn't screen, but they were like, oh, you know what,

1956
01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:36.119
what new projects do you have coming up. He's like, Oh,

1957
01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:38.000
I'm getting ready play a serial killer in this new movie.

1958
01:24:38.119 --> 01:24:39.000
Oh my god.

1959
01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:42.399
Then he immediately calls his agent He's like, I did

1960
01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:43.239
something bad.

1961
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:45.720
That is hilarious.

1962
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:47.359
So they were able to pull it from the interview,

1963
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:49.600
but I was just like, that's hilarious. Oh my god,

1964
01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:51.399
So I know what you did. Last Summer was a

1965
01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:54.079
screenplay written by Kevin Williamson in the nineteen eighties and

1966
01:24:54.199 --> 01:24:56.600
part of the nineties. It was not until nineteenninety six

1967
01:24:56.680 --> 01:24:59.359
that the screenplay was rushed into production by Columbia Pictures

1968
01:24:59.640 --> 01:25:02.800
upon the success of Williamson's written Scream, which was released

1969
01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:03.239
the same year.

1970
01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:07.159
Wait So Kevin Williamson wrote an adaptation of A Little

1971
01:25:07.239 --> 01:25:08.159
Stunken Book.

1972
01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:08.479
In the eighties.

1973
01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:10.119
Yeah, oh, just because he was a fan of it.

1974
01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:11.560
I guess, Oh that's really cool.

1975
01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:14.880
Yeah. So principal photography began March thirty first in nineteen

1976
01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:17.399
ninety seven. It was a ten week shoot. Seven of

1977
01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:19.680
the ten took place at night, and Gelepsy devised the

1978
01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:22.319
color scheme of the cinematographers in East Croissan, which was

1979
01:25:22.439 --> 01:25:25.119
marked by heavy blues throughout and a notable lack of

1980
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:25.720
bright colors.

1981
01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:28.479
Definitely, absolutely, and that was the beginning of that being

1982
01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:30.439
the norm for quite a while in Hollywood.

1983
01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:32.479
The ice inside the storage of the boat was made

1984
01:25:32.520 --> 01:25:35.720
from gelatine, so Jennifer love hewittt could comfortably move around inside.

1985
01:25:35.880 --> 01:25:37.199
Yeah. I mentioned. When I looked at it, I was like,

1986
01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:38.119
that's movie ice. YEP.

1987
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:41.520
Writer Lewis Duncan was Vietmealy opposed to her young adult

1988
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:43.840
novel being reworked into a slasher film, stating she was

1989
01:25:43.880 --> 01:25:46.039
appalled in one interview. This was due to the fact

1990
01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:48.399
that her youngest daughter was murdered by an unknown assailant

1991
01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:50.520
in nineteen eighty nine. She said, as the mother of

1992
01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:52.920
a murdered child. I didn't. I don't find violent deaths

1993
01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:55.680
something to squeal and giggle about. Her original book wasn't

1994
01:25:55.720 --> 01:25:57.560
that far off from a slasher, though. It's still a

1995
01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:00.720
bunch of guilty teenagers being stalked and terrorized by amorous madman.

1996
01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:02.840
It's just nobody dies in her version, so that in

1997
01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:04.680
a sense, it's more like an old school mystery.

1998
01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:05.119
Yeah.

1999
01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:07.159
Well, and that was the sign of the times too. Yeah.

2000
01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:10.000
Jennifer Love Hewett had just appeared along former screen queen

2001
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:12.600
Jamie Lee Curtis and House Arrests prior to filming this movie.

2002
01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:15.199
Yeah Yeah. Anne was surprised to see that she was

2003
01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:17.319
also filming a movie in North Carolina at the same time.

2004
01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:19.920
Jennifer said, Jamie came over to the soundstage to wish

2005
01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:21.520
her luck on her first horror film, and would come

2006
01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:23.239
over every day after to give her a hug.

2007
01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:25.199
That's real sweet. Yeah.

2008
01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.399
The rocky roads surrounding Dawson's Beach where Julie, Ray, Helen,

2009
01:26:28.439 --> 01:26:30.600
and Barry have their hit and run and later Julie

2010
01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:33.960
travels across frequently is the same mountainous roadside location using

2011
01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:38.720
Alfred Hitchcock classic The Birds Shit Okay, the set relocated

2012
01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:40.920
from North Carolina to California for the scene where the

2013
01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:43.920
four teenagers run over the man. Producer Eric fig said

2014
01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:46.159
North Carolina was the flattest state and that they needed

2015
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:48.760
the more curvy and dangerous looking road. Uh.

2016
01:26:49.359 --> 01:26:51.640
I mean overall, that's true, especially if you're on the beach,

2017
01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:55.119
the coastal side. Yeah, but North Carolina's got some But yeah,

2018
01:26:55.199 --> 01:26:57.359
California's got the winding roads out the ass.

2019
01:26:57.479 --> 01:26:59.760
The original trailer aka the trailer that we played with

2020
01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:02.399
the big the show for the movie described Kevin Williamson

2021
01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:05.239
and said the movie as the creator of Scream. Miramax's

2022
01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:08.720
owners of Scream successfully sued Columbia Pictures for false advertising

2023
01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:09.840
and the phrase was removed.

2024
01:27:10.079 --> 01:27:13.159
Yeah, yeah, that's not smarty.

2025
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:16.119
So one scene so as Juliet her breaking point, swirling

2026
01:27:16.159 --> 01:27:18.760
around and asking the killer what's it waiting for even

2027
01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:20.399
though he's nowhere to be seen, so it looks like

2028
01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:22.840
she's talking to the air. And when speaking with US

2029
01:27:22.920 --> 01:27:25.479
Weekly in twenty eighteen, Jennifer Love Hewitt revealed that the

2030
01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:28.800
iconic scene was a kid's idea. That scene was actually

2031
01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:31.039
directed by a kid who want a contest to come

2032
01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:32.800
on and create a moment for the movie, and it

2033
01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:35.159
became the biggest part of the movie, she shared. She

2034
01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:38.159
said that she had no idea where he was now

2035
01:27:38.319 --> 01:27:40.279
and that he wasn't thrilled about the or She wasn't

2036
01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:42.640
thrilled about the idea of the scene at first. He's like,

2037
01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:44.039
I want her to stand in the street and turn

2038
01:27:44.079 --> 01:27:46.560
around to scream what are you waiting for? Huh love,

2039
01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:48.760
Hewitt said, I was literally like, are you kidding me?

2040
01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:51.560
Right now? This is what I'm gonna do. Okay, this

2041
01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:52.399
was a great idea.

2042
01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:55.279
I mean, it is iconic in the film, without a doubt.

2043
01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:56.560
There's no debate.

2044
01:27:56.720 --> 01:27:59.920
Yeah, in the movie. The Shiver's Department Store, located in Southport,

2045
01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:02.840
North Carolina, and owned by Helen Shiver's family, is actually

2046
01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:05.800
a real store called Harold's Department Store, located in Bergaw,

2047
01:28:06.199 --> 01:28:08.640
North Carolina. As of twenty nineteen, the store looks very

2048
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:10.880
familiar to Shiver's store in the movie, selling a mix

2049
01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:13.399
of clothing and home appliances. As of twenty twenty three,

2050
01:28:13.479 --> 01:28:17.800
the store is permanently closed. Bo I know. Melissa jon

2051
01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:19.680
Hart turned down the roll of Julie because she thought

2052
01:28:19.680 --> 01:28:22.960
it was another ripoff of Scream. Heart was not entirely wrong.

2053
01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:24.920
To ripoff it was the first time.

2054
01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:26.800
As the two were very much cut from the same

2055
01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:30.359
adapted the same cloth, and written by the same screenwriter

2056
01:28:30.479 --> 01:28:33.760
Kevin Williamson. However, Williamson actually adapted Lois Duncan's novel I

2057
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:35.720
Know She did last summer first and the early to

2058
01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:38.600
mid nineties. He shopped it around the studios, who all

2059
01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:40.840
said no, since slasher movies were dead at that point,

2060
01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:43.359
so he put it away. Then, around nineteen ninety five,

2061
01:28:43.439 --> 01:28:45.039
while house sitting for a friend in the midst of

2062
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:47.600
getting a shining like cabin fever, after watching a new

2063
01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:51.279
story about Florida's Gainesville Ripper, he suddenly got inspired. He

2064
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:53.479
reportedly whipped out one hundred and twenty paid screenplay for

2065
01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:55.520
Scream in about forty eight hours while listening to the

2066
01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:58.720
soundtrack for Halloween. He submitted it to studios, and Mirriy

2067
01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:01.960
Max eagerly bought in. Scream, of course, became a massive

2068
01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:04.640
hit in December of ninety six and single handedly revitalized

2069
01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:07.520
the slasher genre. At that point, Williamson took his I

2070
01:29:07.640 --> 01:29:10.159
Know script out of the Mothball out of Mothballs and

2071
01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:12.800
resubmitted it Columbia Pictures then bought the rights and the

2072
01:29:12.840 --> 01:29:15.600
rest is history. So actually, if anything, Scream is a

2073
01:29:15.680 --> 01:29:17.439
ripoff of I Know what You did last Summer, and

2074
01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:19.760
not the other way around. Although Scream is widely regarded

2075
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:22.159
as the meta commentary on slasher horror movies rather than

2076
01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:23.119
an example of this.

2077
01:29:23.199 --> 01:29:26.239
One, it makes it does explain how Kevin Williamson had

2078
01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:28.600
another movie come out the next year. Yeah, that that

2079
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:29.680
script was sitting around.

2080
01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:32.119
Yeah. The final Secrets on the Boat was shot on

2081
01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:34.680
actual water bound vessel on the Cape Fear River, which

2082
01:29:34.760 --> 01:29:37.680
proved difficult for the actors and the crew. According to Gilepsy,

2083
01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:40.640
the filmmakers nearly lost the boat while attempting to dock

2084
01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:43.119
it due to the volatile waters, and after which they

2085
01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:45.399
were forced to leave and shoot other footage until the

2086
01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:46.000
following day.

2087
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:49.359
Jeez, well, I mean the ocean water will now show?

2088
01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:49.840
Was the river?

2089
01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:50.159
Yeah?

2090
01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:50.920
Water be like that?

2091
01:29:51.079 --> 01:29:53.640
A waterbe like that. Indeed, although the film is not

2092
01:29:53.680 --> 01:29:56.720
specifically included on Roger Eberts's Most Hated list, he only

2093
01:29:56.760 --> 01:29:59.119
awarded it one star and described it as a tedious

2094
01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:02.520
series of obligate scenes in which nonsensral characters are murdered

2095
01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:03.319
with a bloody hook.

2096
01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:07.119
Damn. Yeah, that's that's as brutal as the film.

2097
01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:10.039
Freddie Brince Junior wasn't pick. Wasn't the first pick or

2098
01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:13.479
obvious choice for Ray. Nobody wanted Freddy Gepsy. A gilepsy

2099
01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:16.079
said they thought he was too soft, he wasn't muscular enough.

2100
01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:19.000
So Freddy probably screen tested four or five times. He

2101
01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:20.880
got to the point where he was saying, I'm done,

2102
01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:22.560
and I really had to plead with him to stick

2103
01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:24.560
with it because I wanted him. I thought he was

2104
01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:26.239
going to be great with it. He went to the gym,

2105
01:30:26.359 --> 01:30:28.720
worked out, changed his diet, cut his hair. I stuck

2106
01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:30.800
to my guns, and eventually they went back and said.

2107
01:30:30.680 --> 01:30:33.800
Yes, Wow, Kevin started quite a career.

2108
01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:36.359
Yeah. Kevin Williamson's own father had been a fisherman in

2109
01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:38.319
real life and wore a slicker similar to that of

2110
01:30:38.359 --> 01:30:40.479
the killer. That's what inspired the outfit for the film.

2111
01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:44.720
I mean that checks out not screened in advance for critics.

2112
01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:45.439
Fuck him.

2113
01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:50.359
The plot is similar to prom Night nineteen eighty, where

2114
01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:52.880
friends accidentally caused the death of someone and make a

2115
01:30:52.920 --> 01:30:54.520
pack to cover it up, only for the past to

2116
01:30:54.560 --> 01:30:55.239
come back and haunt.

2117
01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:57.920
That's a really good point. Yeah, unlike this one.

2118
01:30:58.159 --> 01:30:58.560
It's good.

2119
01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:03.439
It's not a legal, legally prescribed sedative like prom Night, Sorry,

2120
01:31:03.640 --> 01:31:04.279
prom Night.

2121
01:31:04.640 --> 01:31:07.000
Johnny Gileki recalled doing a body cast for the scene

2122
01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:09.239
where Julie opens the trunk and finds Max dead's body

2123
01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:10.840
in it with crab crawling out of his mouth. He

2124
01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:13.119
later got a call that production was shut down because

2125
01:31:13.159 --> 01:31:15.600
Jennifer love Hewitt was so upset by seeing his dead

2126
01:31:15.640 --> 01:31:17.880
body cast of him. He called and reassured her that

2127
01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:19.960
he was very much alive. They were very good friends.

2128
01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:25.560
What so like, what did did Jennifer love Hewitt think

2129
01:31:25.600 --> 01:31:27.960
like they had hired Riggiero da Dado to make this movie?

2130
01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:31.000
That and that he was actually killing the actors? Like,

2131
01:31:31.600 --> 01:31:34.319
I mean, sag won't even let you work fifteen minutes

2132
01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:36.800
over your day, let alone murder you for the good

2133
01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:38.840
of a horror? Is this true? Jesus?

2134
01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:41.560
The film originally had a different ending where Julie James

2135
01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:44.239
is chatting with Ray online. She gets the pool party imitation,

2136
01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:46.399
and then another person starts to chat with her, typing

2137
01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:48.840
in I Still Know. Then the killer jumps out at her.

2138
01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:51.640
The ending was used as a teaser trailer for the sequel.

2139
01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:53.640
It's like, it's like they were sitting there in the

2140
01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:59.319
studio and they were like, it's dated enough. Let's not

2141
01:31:59.439 --> 01:32:03.000
bring all instant message into this. Okay, let's not do that.

2142
01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:06.159
Let's not bring internet relay chat into this.

2143
01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:09.560
Max's murder was added in reshoots. It was decided that

2144
01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:11.920
the killer, who remained mostly in shadows the first half

2145
01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:14.279
of the film, worked on a suspense level but never

2146
01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:17.159
provided a tangible threat to the main characters. The murder

2147
01:32:17.279 --> 01:32:19.359
was then filmed to show the audience that indeed this

2148
01:32:19.920 --> 01:32:21.640
character was a deadly threat to the four.

2149
01:32:21.560 --> 01:32:24.119
Leads and how and how I no shit.

2150
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:26.640
Upon getting the role of the killer, Ben Willis muse

2151
01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:29.800
Watson explained they had already set up in Wilmington, North

2152
01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:32.159
Carolina the film, and they had everybody cast with the killer.

2153
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:33.960
One of the things they were worried about was that

2154
01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:36.279
they wanted somebody who could play the killer but be

2155
01:32:36.439 --> 01:32:38.920
nice to kids. Most of the killers you hire will

2156
01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:40.920
get into a character and stay there, So they were

2157
01:32:40.920 --> 01:32:42.920
a little bit worried about Jennifer Love Hewitt and Sarah

2158
01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:45.920
Michelle Geller, and they wanted somebody nice. This guy who

2159
01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:48.039
was a producer on horse jumping movie I did with

2160
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:50.760
Julia Roberts and Bobby Duvall called Something to Talk About

2161
01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:53.279
in nineteen eighty five. He was also a producer on this,

2162
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:55.159
and he told them I know a guy that could

2163
01:32:55.199 --> 01:32:56.800
kill you in a minute, but he's the nicest guy

2164
01:32:56.840 --> 01:32:59.199
there was on set, and they called me, and I

2165
01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:01.399
drove across town in Hollywood, went to his office and

2166
01:33:01.439 --> 01:33:03.399
they put me on tape. While I was sitting, they

2167
01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:05.479
sent me the tape out before I got home. I

2168
01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:07.199
got a call saying could you leave in the morning,

2169
01:33:07.279 --> 01:33:09.680
So I flew to Wilmington, got out there and started

2170
01:33:09.680 --> 01:33:10.840
studying the character.

2171
01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:14.119
What namby pamby bull Crap. I always hear that like

2172
01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:16.600
the Killer characters, they like don't eat with everybody, so

2173
01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:18.560
they're less comfortable on screen with them.

2174
01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:22.279
Hughes Watson still gets recognized as the killer. He revealed

2175
01:33:22.399 --> 01:33:24.479
one of my buddies wanted to go down to Santa Monica,

2176
01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:26.479
Pere to see the movie down there, and we scared

2177
01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:28.479
some people. When it was over, they stood up and

2178
01:33:28.520 --> 01:33:31.119
were getting their coats, looked back and saw me standing there.

2179
01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:33.039
And when I got back to my hideout in the

2180
01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:35.039
mountains of Tennessee, my wife wanted me to go see

2181
01:33:35.039 --> 01:33:37.359
it in Knoxville, and these five or six kids sitting

2182
01:33:37.399 --> 01:33:39.239
in the front kept talking, and right after one of

2183
01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:41.000
the close upon screen, I tapped him on the shoulder

2184
01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:44.640
and said, hey, keep it down. And I think he

2185
01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:46.119
probably had to change his underwear.

2186
01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:49.880
Uh uh, you mean he changed the guy's underwear. That's

2187
01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:52.079
a that's a little weird, right, Ah, that makes the

2188
01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:52.840
story interesting.

2189
01:33:53.960 --> 01:33:56.760
So what are your final thoughts on nineteen ninety seven's

2190
01:33:56.760 --> 01:33:57.640
I know what you did lesson?

2191
01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:01.520
I mean, I love the film. It's super fun. I

2192
01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:03.920
even think it's it's direct sequel is super fun.

2193
01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:04.279
Yeah.

2194
01:34:05.319 --> 01:34:09.439
I mean if it was Scream, it would be a

2195
01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:11.960
by it one hundred percent. Yeah, But it's not. It

2196
01:34:12.159 --> 01:34:14.439
is the beginning of a of a new world of

2197
01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:16.840
slasher movies. So I'm gonna give it a rent it.

2198
01:34:17.279 --> 01:34:19.399
But if you're a horror movie, no, it's a buy it. Yeah,

2199
01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:21.359
And I think that's just obvious.

2200
01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:24.159
Rent it and buy it caveat. For me, I think

2201
01:34:24.239 --> 01:34:27.319
this is a testament to a great nineties thriller that like,

2202
01:34:27.640 --> 01:34:30.119
like I've said, the entire episode, this builds on menacing

2203
01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:31.960
so well that once you get to the kills, you're like,

2204
01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:32.800
oh yeah, I'm all in.

2205
01:34:33.079 --> 01:34:35.479
Yeah, the suspense has played out really really well, really well,

2206
01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:38.359
which I mean considering you're competing with fucking Wes Craven. Yeah,

2207
01:34:38.439 --> 01:34:39.800
you gotta turn that heat up.

2208
01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:42.439
Yeah, And I mean the soundtrack is nineties is fucking great.

2209
01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:48.000
Na na, no, no, no, no, no, but no, I

2210
01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:49.680
know what you did last Summer still stands up to

2211
01:34:49.720 --> 01:34:51.880
this day as a great slasher film. It's a cable

2212
01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:53.439
player even still a day, and it makes sense as

2213
01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:56.239
to why it is. And I will say, along with Enrique,

2214
01:34:56.359 --> 01:34:57.960
I do like, I still know what you did last summer.

2215
01:34:58.079 --> 01:35:00.439
It's just really stupid towards it's the end.

2216
01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:03.079
Yeah, but you know what, to me, what makes me

2217
01:35:03.159 --> 01:35:05.600
not care about how stupid it is, Yeah, is the setting,

2218
01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:09.760
the island. Yeah, the constant rainstorm, the hurricane weather.

2219
01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:14.119
The restafarian, Jack Black getting killed. Well, you know, let's

2220
01:35:14.159 --> 01:35:16.560
not talk about let's not talk about that. But no,

2221
01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:19.279
I still you know did last Summer is absolutely worth

2222
01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:21.479
the watch. And that brings us to our recommendations. We

2223
01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:23.119
always like to give a couple as we close out

2224
01:35:23.159 --> 01:35:25.880
the show. My first one this week, I would love

2225
01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:28.880
to give some love to Kevin Williamson's teaching Miss Tingle

2226
01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:30.800
from nineteen ninety nine, a story of a girl who

2227
01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:33.439
was willing to do anything to become valedictorian, even if

2228
01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:35.439
it means murdering the teacher that stands in her way.

2229
01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:39.279
One of the best Helen Muren performances where she plays

2230
01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:41.520
a bitch so well in this, but you also love

2231
01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:42.560
her the entire time.

2232
01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:44.279
Yeah, I do like that one.

2233
01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:47.880
And second, I'm gonna give one more recent Fear Street

2234
01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:50.199
Part one from nineteen ninety four, which came out in

2235
01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:53.520
twenty twenty one, Netflix's original A circle of teenage friends

2236
01:35:53.520 --> 01:35:56.159
accidentally encountered the ancient evil responsible for a series of

2237
01:35:56.199 --> 01:35:57.880
b real murders that have plugged their town for over

2238
01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:01.159
three hundred years. Welcome to Shady Side. Cannot recommend the

2239
01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:02.760
Fear Street trilogy enough on Netflix.

2240
01:36:03.479 --> 01:36:05.760
Well, I'm going to go in a direction I guarantee

2241
01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:09.600
you didn't see. Oh I think recond. My recommendation this

2242
01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:13.119
week is going to be the original sleep Away Camp.

2243
01:36:13.319 --> 01:36:14.079
Okay, okay.

2244
01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:16.880
It's a summertime film, even though it's clearly in the fall,

2245
01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:21.800
it's a summertime film. It's got believable young people, so

2246
01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:25.039
in some ways it's the antithesis of I know what

2247
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:26.840
you did last summer, because I know you did less summer.

2248
01:36:26.920 --> 01:36:31.279
Like everybody's too attractive, too pretty, too well lit. Sleep

2249
01:36:31.319 --> 01:36:34.239
Boy Camp is down and dirty. It's got griminess to it,

2250
01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:38.800
but it is a who done it at its core, absolutely,

2251
01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:41.119
with an ending that will leave you shocked if you've

2252
01:36:41.159 --> 01:36:41.680
never seen it.

2253
01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:43.399
And a very good fake out if you have an

2254
01:36:43.479 --> 01:36:45.239
HD transfer now with a one certain scene.

2255
01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:48.720
Oh yeah, yeah, that's true. But so I'm gonna say that.

2256
01:36:48.720 --> 01:36:50.880
I'm gonna say, Robert Hillsticks, that was a nineteen eighty one.

2257
01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:54.119
I believe ye, nineteen eighty one's sleep Away Camp. That's

2258
01:36:54.159 --> 01:36:55.520
my wreck, good good wreck.

2259
01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:56.840
Do we have any emails?

2260
01:36:57.079 --> 01:36:57.520
We do not.

2261
01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:01.000
We do not, so I know nobody loves so I

2262
01:37:01.159 --> 01:37:03.039
guess we should go ahead and talk about what we're

2263
01:37:03.079 --> 01:37:05.039
talking about next week, which we are starting.

2264
01:37:05.640 --> 01:37:10.920
Maulgus Oh god, please, no, Davis always.

2265
01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:13.199
Sounds like something that your doctor tells you you got

2266
01:37:13.319 --> 01:37:15.199
after you went to Thailand.

2267
01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:17.039
All right, well, then I'll put this out to the

2268
01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:20.079
viewers and listeners. If you have a great title for

2269
01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:21.239
our Martin Mole.

2270
01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:24.279
Tribute month, Martin Mole August Time.

2271
01:37:24.439 --> 01:37:26.920
Martin mulgus Ius.

2272
01:37:26.359 --> 01:37:28.880
As hell that's hell I hate if.

2273
01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:31.239
You have a better title than mulgust or Martin Mulgust

2274
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:34.960
right into us. Let us know. If we pick your title,

2275
01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:35.960
We'll let you pick a movie.

2276
01:37:36.479 --> 01:37:37.399
Whoa, yeah.

2277
01:37:38.760 --> 01:37:40.760
If you If you give us a good title for

2278
01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:42.319
this month, we will let you pick a film that

2279
01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:44.119
we will talk about. Same if you slip me at

2280
01:37:44.119 --> 01:37:47.960
twenty that's fair too. So well, uh well, hell so

2281
01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:50.920
next week is Mister Mom. Mister Mom from nineteen eighty

2282
01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:53.920
three with Michael Keaton, a big time favorite of mine.

2283
01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:56.359
I think it's actually like one of his first big movies.

2284
01:37:56.479 --> 01:37:58.279
Yeah, and it's one of the first big films from

2285
01:37:58.319 --> 01:38:02.000
a screenplay, an original screenplay, yeah, from John Hughes.

2286
01:38:02.079 --> 01:38:06.279
And one thing we will tease about maulgust right now. Unfortunately,

2287
01:38:06.399 --> 01:38:09.039
Martin Maul is very well known for his TV appearances

2288
01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:11.199
more than his film appearances, so we have had to

2289
01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:13.119
scrape a little bit on these. But we are picking

2290
01:38:13.399 --> 01:38:16.640
titles that he is represented well in. I would say,

2291
01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:21.000
what sure, I'm just saying, is there a lot to

2292
01:38:21.039 --> 01:38:24.319
pick from? This filmography is not huge. His TV catalog

2293
01:38:24.399 --> 01:38:24.880
is way bigger.

2294
01:38:25.039 --> 01:38:27.039
This filmography is pretty big. But he also is sometimes

2295
01:38:27.079 --> 01:38:27.840
in like one.

2296
01:38:27.760 --> 01:38:29.960
Scene, one scene. Yes this is very true. But yeah,

2297
01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:32.479
we'll talk about mister Mom nineteen eighty three next week

2298
01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:33.359
on do You Even Movie?

2299
01:38:33.600 --> 01:38:36.319
All right, Well, make sure to check us out at

2300
01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:39.479
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2301
01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:41.720
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2302
01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:43.760
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2303
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2304
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2305
01:38:49.680 --> 01:38:53.119
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2306
01:38:53.239 --> 01:38:56.880
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2309
01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:05.920
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2310
01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:10.399
So until next time, We'll see you next next summer.

2311
01:39:11.960 --> 01:39:14.279
Damn it, Fuck you dud,