March 15, 2024

Do You Even Movie? | Bad Moon (1996) An Underrated Werewolf Gem

Do You Even Movie? | Bad Moon (1996) An Underrated Werewolf Gem

This week we've got a film to really sink your teeth into as we head deep into the woods to join Henrqiue and David for one of the most underrated werewolf movies of all time! After surviving a brutal wolf attack, a photo-journalist Ted decides to...

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This week we've got a film to really sink your teeth into as we head deep into the woods to join Henrqiue and David for one of the most underrated werewolf movies of all time! After surviving a brutal wolf attack, a photo-journalist Ted decides to stay in a trailer parked near his sister's house in the hopes that in being near his family, he'll be able to cope up. However, the family's dog, Thor becomes suspicious and hostile towards Ted in 1996's "Bad Moon" !

Directed by Eric Red and starring Mariel Hemingway, Michael Pare, and Mason Gamble. Listen as our hosts discuss what makes this movie work, the incredible career of Michael Pare, and David opens up about The Crow reboot hate with recent release of the Crow's look.

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A house on the edge of the
woods. God here, it's safe and

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peaceful. A family alone, Mom, Yes, we can you leave the

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door open. A crack a favorite
uncle who needed their help. Things haven't

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been going so good for me since
I got back Sis, come stay with

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us. But when they invited him
in, I think I better keep my

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eye on you. They let in
something they could never imagine or ever escape,

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Bad Moon. It doesn't have to
be Halloween to be this scary.

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In a world where podcasts reign supreme, two friends dare to ask Do You

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Even? Movie? Hosted by filmmaker
Enrique Cuto and movie aficionado David Denyer spoiler

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alert. Well, hello, my
dear listeners, whether you're human or liken

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thrope, welcome back to Do You
Even? Movie? I'm, of course

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your host Enrique Kuto here with my
good buddy and co host Double D David

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Louis Denoyer, and we have quite
a Yes, we do. I have

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a lot of admiration for this film. Admiration, yes, why because it

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was one of those movies that it
traumatized me at a young age. I've

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never told you the story. Well, well, first of all, the

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film is bad movie from nineteen ninety
six. Yes, you're just you're It

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happens to all guys sometimes, I'm
not. I wasn't going to share the

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story just yet. I would just
tell fire off prematurely. It happens to

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every guy. It happens every guy. So but, uh, how old

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were you when you discovered this movie? So I was probably either six or

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seven? Okay, so post yellow
Belt yellow Belt, Yes, thank you,

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thank you for fucking bringing that up
again. So we appreciate everybody writing

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in with your yellow Belt commentary.
By the way, you no go on

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day. So I was, I
was single digits. It was it was

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like six seven, eight ish,
and I thought that I had turned on

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the TV for Dennis the Menace because
I saw the kid from Dennis the MENI

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from the movie from the movie Nis. Yeah, and then it was the

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scene it was it was on cable, and then it was the scene when

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she catches up with him at the
end, right before he morphs out and

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everything. And I was not prepared
to watch that gentleman morph into the creature

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that he does. It's morph in
and tom oh my god. So yeah,

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it was one of those movies that
stuck with me at a young age,

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and I didn't find it until I
think it was early twenties that I

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that I that actually found it early
nineteen twenty, early nineteen twenties, you

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got it yep. Wow, before
there were even home video, before there

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was even home video, before the
film was even made, before the film

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was even made. Yes, and
PROHIBI hadn't ended yet either, I don't

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think so yeah. Uh. And
and I not to speak out a turn,

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but I feel like some of the
stuff going on in your app's not

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so good. No, probably not
so? Uh are we doing? I

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don't know, you're the one who
shows up for it, but uh,

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yeah, so we're gonna be talking
about the nineteen ninety six where will fill

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bad Moon? And before we get
into bad Moon? Yeah, would you

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call this the most underrated werewolf movie
or what would you say? No?

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I would say this is probably this
is absolutely one of, uh one of

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the most underrated werewolf movies, because
there's several one all safe at the end

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of the episode for recommendation. But
I think this movie finally kind of got

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it to do when that Blu ray
got released. I think, like what

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it's probably been like five or six
years ago now, somewhere in that neighborhood.

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Yea, because it seems like a
lot of more people were discovering it

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and talking about it, and then
also streaming services this past Halloween picked it

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up, and that's how I revisited
it again. So I think this is

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a very underrated horror film. And
also I think it's the perfect runtime as

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well. I mean, yeah,
it's it's definitely brisk, yes, and

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it moves very quickly. Yeah.
The thing that Bad Moon has going for

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it that makes it stand out is
also what kind of damned it? What's

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that? It's expensive? Yeah,
it's a big fat, expensive werewolf movie

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from nineteen ninety six, And my
first thought is why Yeah, I mean

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no, no, And I enjoy
it. Yeah, I get that.

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There's that moment where it's like,
who sat down on what? You know?

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We could do well with werewolf movies, but what if we also spent

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like a lot of money, like
a lot of money? Do you remember?

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Do you know what the budget was? Uh? Seven million? If

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I remember correctly, that's a lot
of money for a little movie. Well,

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and then you had American Werewolf in
Paris in ninety seven. Bad Moon's

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ninety six Wolf was ninety four.
Uh Halling six, The Freaks was ninety

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one, finally a real film,
and Project Metal Beast was nineteen ninety five.

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No, we're cooking with gas,
So I mean Werewolves were not.

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So what you're saying super popular.
What you were saying is Bad Moon was

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usurping the afterwaves of Project Metal Beasts. I mean bad Moon Bad Moon is

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the latest of them, because yeah, Werewolf in Paris is ninety seven,

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so Bad Moon ninety six, Wolf
ninety four. Yeah, so I mean

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this is this is on the tail
end of nineties where Wolf movies, Project

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Metal Beast no. Uh. My
point is just that for it to cost

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that much and be a Morgan Creek
release, yeah, it was an odd

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choice. Absolutely, And as we'll
get into when we start talking about the

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film, it was troubled in many
many ways, including with the MPAA and

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the producer was who were medaling in
the cut. Yeah, so that also

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plays into it as well, because
kids, like a great poet once said,

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mo money, MO problems. But
that's the truth. It absolutely is.

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People think I'm being cute because I'm
quoting at rapper, but no,

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mo money, MO problems. Kids. It is more problems if you spend

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more money. Well, it's like
I always think back to the production of

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Nothing but Trouble, and the reason
that that production was left alone and went

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so out of bounds was because they
were also working on Bonfire the Vanities at

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the same time, and that had
the studios directed to and they kind of

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let Dan acroy do because it was
it was troubled. Yeah. Yeah,

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it was a big budget movie that
was troubled, so nobody really paid attention

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to Akroyd's picture, and that's how
a four million dollar gross comedy got made.

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It ended up costing more than that
didn't. Now I'm curious, let

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me you should know this stuff off
the top of your head. Well,

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I'm sorry. I love the Trouble, but I don't know the budget just

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off the top of my head.
That's bizarre, I said, right now.

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Uh huh forty five million? Yeah, what where did you get seven

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million dollars? Four million? Yeah? Where'd you get that number from?

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From the forty five? I just
for out the five at the end of

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it. That's our numbers work box
office eight point four million. Honestly,

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that forty five million dollar budget gross
comedy. Yeah. Uh, nothing Trouble

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coming into this show soon. Don't
worry. Oh is it? It is

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okay? But so uh for me, Bad Moon was not a staple of

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childhood or anything like that. Yeah, but it was on cable. Yeah.

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I played cable a lot when I
was a kid, and I caught

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bits and pieces of it, And
what always stuck out to me was the

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tone was very creepy because it was
very well done. And that's actually I

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think that's one of the reasons the
movie stands out is because the tone is

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so strong, because it has a
very strong cast and it was a tiny

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cast. Yeah, you know,
Michael Pere and Mariel Hemingway both very very

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talented actors, and that's I think
what always stood out the most was that

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I felt the most out of ease
because they are very good. Absolutely,

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and in that way, the high
budget helped because they had name actors and

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they probably you know, they took
their time building on the on the whole

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thing. But I just remember thinking
like, oh, this is kind of

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like in the realm of werewolf movies, one of the more cerebral ones.

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Absolutely, but that's as a kid. As an adult, I just kind

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of hunted it down because I well, first of all, for for forever,

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I got this and Silver Bullet confused, I could see that, Yeah,

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I definitely see that. So for
a really long time, I'd be

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like, oh man, I want
to watch Silver Bullet, and then I'd

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watch it, like wow, that
was great, but that was not the

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movie I was. Gary Goucy was
there, but yeah, no, I

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mean, I'm never going to be
mad about Unexpected Bucy. But I still

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can't believe Last Week Little Giants Gary
Busey and Randy Quaid is the two leads.

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That movie is so different. That
would be a very different movie.

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Oh my god. Uh. But
that being said, I always thought it

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was pretty good, and then when
the Blu ray came out, I got

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to really revisit it and I enjoy
it quite a bit. Yeah No,

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I mean I think it's one of
those movies that when when I find people

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that haven't seen it, I'm super
excited to show it to them. And

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ninety percent time I've shown this movie
to like three people, like in the

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last like four years that I can
think of, and everybody has usually gone

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through the roof about it and like, how did I never see this?

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And I'm happy that it's finally getting
it's due via streaming services and releases and

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whatnot. It seems like it is
picking up some more steam. I mean

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it's it's definitely been talked about,
yeah, more than ever before. Absolutely.

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Well, then give us the deats
all right soon pertinent details. Our

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director of this film is Eric Read
This gentleman starts as a writer in nineteen

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eighty six with The Hitcher, Yes, the Rugger Howard movie. He wrote

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that. Yes, No, Eric
Red, if I remember correctly, has

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a much more prolific writing career.
Yeah. So he does The Hitcher in

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nineteen eighty six, then is the
writer of Near Dark in nineteen eighty seven.

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Wow. Then he goes on to
both write and direct Cohen and Tate

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in nineteen eighty eight, which is
a action film. That is Roy Schreider

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and I think Adam Baldwin, if
I'm not mistaken, How have you never

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brought that over to watch? Because
I don't have it. I used to

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have a VHS of it and shout, I think put out a blue ray

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of it some time ago, but
I think it's way out of print now.

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It's It's okay. Basically, the
story, it's a good story.

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The story is Schreider and Baldwin play
two assassins that are sent out to basically

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kill this witness that turns out to
be a kid of this like mob happening.

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They murder his family, take the
kid away. In the rest of

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the movie, is the kid watching
them to turn against each other. Okay,

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it's pretty good. You just sold
down sold it and now you've up

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sold it. I mean I was
I expected more the first time I watched

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it. I would probably I would
absolutely give it a round. What were

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you expecting like a straight up action
movie? I guess the cover. I

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mean, the cover's ridiculus. I'll
show you the cover as the ship.

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So he does Covien Intate nineteen eighty
eight. Then he does Blue Steel,

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the Jamie Lee Curtis cop thriller in
nineteen ninety I Love Blue Steel Body Parts

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in nineteen ninety one, which he
is both the screenplay a credit as well

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as the director of Have you Seen
Body Parts of? Jeff Ahy? I

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have seen Body Parts? That's a
really good one. Part of you Do

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you remember like one of the most
craziest scenes in the movie. I mean,

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the movie's full of crazy scenes,
but where the killer goes after brad

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Dura's character because he's had both arms
like replaced with like amputees, and he's

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hanging on this ledge and he just
undoes the straps and watches brad Dura fall

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and then takes his arts. I
need to use it. That's a great

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one. Then he does The Last
Outlaw in ninety three, which he's a

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writer of, Under in nineteen ninety
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of Bad Moon ninety six the same
year, screenplay and director. Then he

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gets credit for characters in the Hitcher
two I've been Waiting in two thousand and

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three, credit again for the screenplay
the two thousand and seven remake of the

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Hitcher. He does One hundred Feet
in two thousand and eight, which is

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the writer and director of, and
then Night of the Wild in twenty fifteen,

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which he directs. I don't think
I've seen either of those last two.

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I haven't seen either of him.
And actually Michael Perey comes back for

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one hundred uh yeah, one hundred
Feet. He's actually credited on that too,

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so I can't have to work with
him again. So our writer on

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this we have two. We have
Wayne Smith, who was the author of

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the novel Thor, which is what
Bad Moon is based off of, and

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then Eric Red wrote the screenplay for
the film as well. I think it's

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pronounced tour tour? Are you tour
tour? But no Thor was a horror

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novel that came out, I want
to say, in eighty two, and

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unfortunately at the recording of this I
have not managed to get a copy of

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it yet. But there is some
differences with the novel that I'll get to

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when we get into the scene.
And I thought you were dedicated, dude.

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I want to get a copy of
Thor, but the cheapest one that

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I can find is between forty and
fifty bucks. I thought you were dedicated

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to the show. I don't pay
that much for books. Well that's because

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when you buy a book, you
know you're not going to read. That's

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very true. I mean that's as
I sit here right now, I'm thinking

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of all the horror novels that are
sitting on my shelf at home that I

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have had for ten years plus that
I haven't read yet. Oh sorry.

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Moving down the list, we're gonna
get to our cinematographer, which is Jan

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Keser. He starts as a first
assistant camera in nineteen seventy two with Premonition.

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Then is the assistant camera on Idaho
Transfer in seventy three. He is

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the second unit on Jackson County Jail
in nineteen seventy six YEP. Then does

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One by One in seventy seven,
The Gauntlet in seventy seven, Elvis and

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seventy nine, The Rose in seventy
nine, Roady in nineteen eighty, Heaven's

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Gate in eighty Blowout in eighty one, worked on Heaven's Gate, Yeah,

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the Tragedy Crazy Yeah Yeah. So
then he becomes a cinematographer in nineteen eighty

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three with Return Engagement. Then he
does Purple Hearts in nineteen eighty four,

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Choose Me in eighty four as well. Then he does the Eurythmics video for

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What I Lie to You in nineteen
eighty five, and then in nineteen eighty

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five he does a little film called
Fright Night. What he is a cinematographer

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of Fright Nights. Then Right Night
goes from Fright Night to Some kind of

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Wonderful to John Hughes film in nineteen
eighty seven, Made in Heaven in nineteen

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eighty seven, Clean and Sober in
nineteen eighty eight Oh yeah, I love

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Clean and Sober. Didn't I get
you that poster? You didn't? Yeah,

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it hangs in my hallways. A
good dude now Clean and Sober for

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those who are not are not familiar
with it one of Michael Keaton's underrated eighties

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films. He plays an addict who
is going through sobriety and cleansing drugs,

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and Morgan Freeman is the head of
the unit that he's in. He tries

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to make friends, he tries to
clean up his life. Really good movie,

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really sad, but really a underrated
performance by Keaton. Well, in

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the eighties he was in like five
movies a year. Yeah, no,

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it was. It's crazy how many
Keaton starring vehicles I've discovered just because you

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have a crush on it. Yes, I do Desperate Measures in the nineties.

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That is a great keep movie.
That's a really good one. Yeah,

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Do You Even? Movie? Will
be right back, welcome back to

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Do You Even? Movie? So, then he does Dad in nineteen eighty

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nine, v Rwashowski in nineteen ninety
one, Georgia ninety five, The Adventures

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of Captain Zoom in Outer Space in
nineteen ninety five, then does Bad Moon

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in ninety six, goes on to
get a TV movie career with The Perfect

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Mother in ninety seven, Murder on
My Mind in ninety seven, Nightmare Street

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in ninety eight, does a film
called Bruno in two thousand, then Doctor

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T and the Women in two thousand. Bruno not that, not that Bruno.

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Sasha Baron Cohen is not that one. No, not the talking penis

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Bruno. No. I just wanted
to make sure Rare Birds two thousand and

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one, Now and Forever two thousand
and two. Refer Madness the movie musical

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in two thousand, remember that was
the thing. And then or two thousand

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and five. He does beow Wolf
and grandel On five FIGHTO in two thousand

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and six. I never liked five, I know, and I don't understand

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that. I think it's kind of
stupid. You need to revisit Fido.

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I think I'll like it. Just
I just didn't like. I got why

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everybody else liked it. I just
didn't think it was anything special. I

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was so tired of zombies. Mean, when that came out, that's fair.

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It was so they got really lazy, Like there were a couple of

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times where the makeup was like falling
off the guy and they still like it's

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like, you guys got money,
you need to revisit face. We're mareking

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fight. Oh, probably a Friday
night movie. Great Love at First Killed

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two thousand and eight, The Fall
two thousand and nine, Christmas Story two

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twenty twelve, Oh, The Real
Christmas Story Direct to video. Daniel Stern

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as the Falling Scott Falling Sky's twenty
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and then does Christmas Princess in twenty
seventeen. While this is going on there

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with a cinematographer career, he also
works on films such as Something Wicked,

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This Way Comes in eighty three,
meat Balls, How and to what capacity?

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Uh? He is the assistant cameraider, camera operator. He had a

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bunch of different times, Okay,
I just want to understand. Then,

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does he's uncredit on Starman in nineteen
eighty four, Weird Science eighty five,

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Larger Than Life nineteen ninety six,
The X Files nineteen ninty eight, Fast

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and the Furious Tokyo Drift eighty six, O Sick Percy Jackson in The Lightning

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the twenty ten So he's been working
like this entire time, doing a bunch

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of camera stuff in regards to operation
second assistant, second unit and also cinematographer,

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on this whole time, on this
whole time, during this whole time.

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Shut up, Hey David, what
say you like? Anthropy? Like

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anthropy? How'd you say it?
Fine? Now during the movie, he

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couldn't say it to save his damn
light by anthropy, the pressure is supposed

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to make you worse, not better. Too bad. IMDb synopsis says,

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after being bitten by a werewolf in
the jungle, Ted looks for a cure

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his lawyer sister with a son and
dog and bites him to park his camper

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by her house in the woods and
live out of her fridge. That's the

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IMDb synopsis, and live out of
her fridge my synopsis. After his owner's

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brother comes to stay with her and
her son, Thor, the family dog,

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starts to suspect that Ted is hiding
a deadly secret that may put them

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all in jeopardy if Thor doesn't defend
his back. The problem with your synopsis

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go ahead is too it's too all. It's a werewolf movie. It should

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be after becoming a fucking werewolf with
swears in the swears in yeah yeah,

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yeah, yeah No, But it
should be like after becoming a werewolf,

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you'd probably be mentioned in there,
because right now it sounds like a lifetime

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movie where it's like her brother is
evil, but the dog is ready to

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defend them. So moving on down, we have our cast, which is

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Marrio Hemingway, who plays Janet.
She started in Lipstick in nineteen seventy six,

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Does Manhattan in nineteen seventy nine,
Personal Best in nineteen eighty two,

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Star eighty, Dorothy Stratton Story in
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five, Superman four, The Quest
for Piece in eighty seven of the Superman

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Oh It Is Not But Okay of
all Time, The Suicide Club at eighty

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seven, Sunset eighty eight, Tails
from the Crip episode in ninety one,

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Delirious in ninety one, Falling from
Grace in ninety two, Naked Gun thirty

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three and a third, The Final
Insult in nineteen ninety four, where she

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plays herself mind you Oh really at
the Oscars see Oh Yeah, Yeah Yeah.

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Movie Deceptions two, Edge of Deception
in nineteen ninety four, Roseanne in

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ninety four, CPW Nieve Bad Moon
ninety six, Deconstructing Harry ninety seven,

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Little Men, Kiss of a Stranger, The Sex Monster, The Contender,

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Perfume Becker First Shot Crossing Jordan See
Arnold Runn in Her Line of Fire,

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The Golden Boys, Eleventh Hour,
Rise of the Zombies, Lap Dance,

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Finding Fortune on Sacred Ground, and
just last year, God's Country Song in

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twenty twenty three, The Hell's Rise
of the Zombies. It is that Danny

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Trejose sci fi movie that came out
in twenty twelve. I did. She

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was in the shop. Remember her
in it? She's in it? Okay.

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Moving on down the list, we
have Michael Perey, which two hundred

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and thirteen credits, by the way, Yeah, oh yeah, he is

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a working He's done a couple of
movies for my buddy Brett. Yeah.

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I think I have a couple on
here. So Crazy Times in nineteen eighty

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one his start. Then he goes
on to be in the Greatest American Hero

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in nineteen eighty one, Completely Kills
It, and Eddie and the Cruisers in

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nineteen eighty three, goes Onto Your
Streets of Fire in nineteen eighty four,

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The Philadelphia Experiment. In eighty four, Space Rage, World Gone Wild,

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Eddie and the Cruisers two, Eddie
Lives in eighty nine, The Closer into

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the Sun, Lunar Cop. You
ever seen Lunar Cop? No, I

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want to. I used to have
a VHS tape of it back in the

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day. I adore the era in
the late eighties and early nineties where you

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could just put anything before Copp.
Yeah. That brought us such charms as

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Psycho Cot, Maniac Cotton Cop,
Cyborg Cop, Yeah, Scanner Cop,

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which is of course one of my
all time favorites. But I just love

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that it was like, we'll just
put this before Cop, Wolf Cop.

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There's so many of those name before
cop movies. Cyborg Cop was a really

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ridiculous one, and some of them
like would spawn on like five sequels.

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I think when Norski alone has done
like three of them, I want to

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say, well, he did busty
cops and stuff, but that was in

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the two thousands. I don't think. I don't think he did me of

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the the cop movies I thought he
did. Maybe I don't think of somebody

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else, though. I have to
check the Village of the Damn in nineteen

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eighty five, Bad Moon in ninety
six, Merchant of Death ninety seven,

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Hope Floats in nineteen ninety eight,
Virgin Suicides ninety nine, Heart of America,

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Red Serpent, Gargoyle, Blood rain
Seed, Postal two thousand and seven.

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Oh, she was in Postal and
Michael was Yeah, Michael Perry was,

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Oh, Mike or not she yeah, oh, Michael, And I

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believe that my brain got lost for
a second. Rampage two thousand and nine.

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I forgot he plays a cop and
Rampage. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Rampage is so good the first one. No, No, Rampage is super

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good. Yeah. H Lincoln Lawyer
in the twenty eleven House twenty eleven Leverage,

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Gone Assault on Wall Street. It's
for the record, so because my

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brain got all mixed for a second. Gargoyle's a gym Winski. Yeah,

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I recognized the cover and I thought
that was Jim's Checkmate twenty fifteen, Bone

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Tomahawk twenty fifteen, The Infiltrator twenty
sixteen, American Violence, Gangsterland puppet Master

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Littless reich In twenty eighteen. Yeah, yeah, he's a working guy.

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City of Lies, Hall of Point, The Penthouse, Deceived by my mother

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in law, Mommy's deadly con artist, Christmas Collision twenty twenty one, Kings

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of La twenty twenty three, The
Puppet Man twenty twenty three, and just

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this year alone, he has like
five upcoming projects. Yeah, he's he's

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definitely a B movie stalwart, Yeah, and then finishing us out as Mason

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Gamble who plays Brett. He was
in Dennis the Menace in nineteen ninety three,

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Spy Hard in ninety six, Bad
Moon in ninety six, Early Edition

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in ninety six, Er in ninety
Sive Gatica in ninety seven, Rushmore ninety

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eight, Arlington Road in ninety nine, Anya's Bell in ninety nine, Kate

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Brasher in two thousand and one,
A Gentleman's Game of O two, Close

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to Home in five CSI, Miami
Golf, and Kingdom. And as of

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twenty sixteen, he is quit acting
of course, doctoral candidate in Environmental Science

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and Engineering at the Institute of Environment
and Sustainability at UCLA. So he just

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accrued a bunch of useless student debt, I mean apparently rock and Roll ked

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rock and Roll. So at this
recording, we are happy to report that

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Bad Moon is available across streaming services, so you should not have any problem

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finding it. What was your first
time seeing Bad Moon well on cable on

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cable kid. Yeah, and then
I hunted it down. Like I said,

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years later when I finally figured out
what the title was because I got

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confused that it was Silver Bullet.
Yeah, so I probably saw it all

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the way through for the first time
in my early twenties. That was me

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too, but I never really got
to fully watch it until the Blu ray

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came out. I got really watch
it. Yeah, I got to really

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see it when I picked up a
four pack that was Bad Moon, Body

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Snatchers, Coma, and Wolfin.
That was a collection from Warner Brothers and

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it was a four film pack.
I was going through it, and when

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I got to Bad Moon, I
was like, holy shit, this is

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that movie that I'd been looking for
for you know, ever, And I

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was just blown away by how much
fun it was and the simplicity of it

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too. It is a fun movie. It is a bizarrely simple movie.

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Yeah, there's not a lot of
slashing or anything. It's just it's but

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it's pace always felt very intentional.
Yeah, I know it absolutely, And

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I think what makes it work even
more so than the simplicity of it is

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the fact that you really do care
about these characters. Because the fact that

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we have what I mean, I
don't technically what three main characters. Basically,

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you don't count the dog. You
have to count the dog four man

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characters because the dog is like so
important to the movie's plot. I'm not

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just saying that as a dog guy. Yeah, I mean the dog is

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really important for the film's plot.
So you ready to get into this movie?

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No? Too bad? Damn.
So we open with a beautiful jungle

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shot as we find out we're into
Paul As we pan down onto a camp

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of scientists and some tribal leaders,
and we meet Ted who's talking over plans

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with his girlfriend Marjorie, and they
are discussing what their plan's going to be

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for the next day, what it's
going to be for the next several months,

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Like they're going to Egypt and they're
going to where's the other place he

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said, I can't remember, but
they're basically laying out their plans and Marjorie

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wants him to join her in the
tents. So they make their way to

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the tent in order to uh ardvark. Yes, ardvarking is a great way

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to put it. So they start
having sex and we see the horses around

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the camp getting spooked, and we
see a POV from something that's looking in

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from the forest on in the camp. Suddenly a creature descends upon the camp

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and we see one of the tribal
people get murdered before and then inside the

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tent while they're going at it still, a large shadow appears behind Marjorie and

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suddenly Ted starts freaking out, but
she is the tent slashed in and she's

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pulled through the tent and we see
a giant werewolf now is outside the tent

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and mulling her to death. Mulling
her to death. It's brutal, yeah,

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because Ted actually goes out to try
and fight it off. Did you

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even mentioned we're watching the director's cut. Oh, yes, well we'll get

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we we'll get there when we get
but we are watching the directors Yes,

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but that the only thing different is
the transformation. That's all that's different.

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All that's different. Oh then I
like the theatrical cut. More shut up.

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Oh day is gonna be so mad? I hate, I don't,

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I don't We'll get there. Uh
huh. So Ted gets scratched by the

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creature. It gets thrown to the
ground, and like Enrique said, this

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thing is just mauling Marjorie, it
bites her head, and then suddenly Ted

393
00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.359
makes his way over to a shotgun
and blows the creature's head off. And

394
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:33.519
that is the opening of Bad Moon. I don't buy that that twelve gage

395
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.960
shotgun would blow that werewolf's head cleaning
off like that. Yeah, probably not,

396
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:40.960
That's all I got. Yeah,
as we see, I mean,

397
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:44.759
we see the impact of the head
just go no, it is like melon

398
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:48.440
meat, you know, shotgun slug. This movie is no shy. It

399
00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:52.759
is not shy on its gore.
I mean, that's for sure. I

400
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.000
mean the remains, the remains we
see, especially stuff well yeah that no,

401
00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.640
that's true. And the effects are
excellent, and they take a different

402
00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:04.200
direction. They don't really follow werewolf
floor. They kind of they kind of

403
00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.000
do the whole thing where they're like, well, yeah that's what they say

404
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:10.640
in movies, but real were wolves
are this way, which does allow it

405
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:12.759
to feel a little fresher. Absolutely
does. I mean, I think honestly,

406
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:15.680
the fact that they have that scene
of them talking about the lore and

407
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:21.559
completely break it apart. But also
he's aware of it, but he's also

408
00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:25.279
the monster that we're going after in
a sense. Well yeah, yeah,

409
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:27.680
so we pan over more forest and
we come across a young boy who's in

410
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:30.880
the yard. This is Brett playing
with his dog, Thor, who's a

411
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.640
German shepherd. They're playing ball in
the yard as a man in a suit

412
00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:36.799
starts walking around the corner carrying a
briefcase and he approaches the house. The

413
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:40.160
man comments on Thor's size, making
jokes about is that a horse or a

414
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.240
dog, and Brett's like, it's
a dog, it's a German shepherdy idiot.

415
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:47.359
Yeah, that kid has no chill. So Janet his mom comes out

416
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:49.119
of the house and we see that
the man starts to pitch that he has

417
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.720
educational books for sale. But something's
off about this guy as he holds up

418
00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:56.359
his briefcase and does it in a
way that really gets Thor going, Yeah,

419
00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.920
he's making sudden, loud movements,
which is pissing the dog off.

420
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.480
Pissing the dog off. Janet tries
to wave him off, but the gentleman

421
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.960
starts instigating Thor, causing Thor to
run at him, knocking him to the

422
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.319
ground, and that's when he claims
that Thor bit him And you know,

423
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:11.559
you better get a lawyer, lady, Like I'm you know, you got

424
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.640
to take care of this dog and
everything. And that's when she bends down,

425
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:17.960
hands with a business card and she's
like, here, call me.

426
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:21.279
I'm a lawyer. Yeah, it's
a pretty awesome, sir. Yeah,

427
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:26.799
because he's like, he's clearly a
con artist. Did you mention like after

428
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.559
the dog first gets mad, the
second they look away, he raises his

429
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:33.440
hand up my hand, which if
a dog is trained at all, they

430
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:37.640
take that as a threat. So
he's like, got a whole scam and

431
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.960
is and the mom just clocked him
a million miles away. She's like a

432
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:47.160
con artists who pretend to get hit
by cars by dogs. A flopsy,

433
00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:48.960
that's the word she used for him, and I love that. And then

434
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.519
she reveals a little bit about her
backstory because she says, like, I

435
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:55.440
used to prosecute them all the time, And that's when we start to get

436
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.319
the hint of what will be revealed
later that she's from Chicago originally. Now

437
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.720
she's in what appears to me to
be the Pacific Northwest or northern California.

438
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.400
And but she mentions that she was
a prosecutor in Chicago. Yep, so

439
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:14.680
that means she put lots of innocent
minorities in prison. It's called subtext,

440
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:18.759
David, Uh huh, It's called
subtext. So she's given him shit and

441
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.720
you know, call him a flopsy, basically explaining to Brett what he does,

442
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.160
and that you know that she offers
to driving the family doctor seeing through

443
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:26.279
to him because the whole time he's
like I've been bit and he's holding his

444
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:30.039
hand in his pot and his coat
like not showing or anything. And we

445
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.480
also got to mention too that she
commands thor to like back away from him,

446
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:36.640
lay down in Thorida's so Thora is
a pretty well trained dog. It's

447
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:41.119
a very obedient German shepherd. And
the reason she's saying, like, I'll

448
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.839
take you to the doctor myself is
because part of that scam would be going

449
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.119
to either a fake physician like pretending
you go to the doctor, or going

450
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.240
to a crooked doctor. Yeah,
to get a note that you could scare

451
00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:53.559
somebody with, because the whole point
would be to never go to court.

452
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.880
It'd be to get somebody to settle
because they're so afraid of what's gonna happen.

453
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.640
Yeah, and he clocked them just
from having a big, beautiful house,

454
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.920
ye alone. I do love that
line. Where he goes like,

455
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.160
what about you know, haven't you
heard of leash laws? That's the front

456
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.759
yard. Approach the house and you
get more like you're you're in their front

457
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.559
yard. So the flopsy states that
she hasn't seen the last of him and

458
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.160
that he'll be back, and Janet
tells him a valuable lesson not to mess

459
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:19.640
with a lawyer on her own turf. So as he leaves, I was

460
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:23.880
waiting for him because because I like
this movie quite a bit, but there

461
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.200
are moments that the writing's a little
weak, and some of that could have

462
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:32.000
been meddling from producers. But like
when he says like I'll be back,

463
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:33.599
I felt like he may as well
say, you know, what's the werewolves

464
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:40.079
around? So I can get killed? I'll be back, And spoiler alert,

465
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:45.880
he sure does. Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back.

466
00:29:53.400 --> 00:30:02.039
Welcome back to Do You Even?
Movie. Later that night, Thor

467
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:03.480
makes his way into Brett's room.
We see Thor kind of moving around the

468
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.119
house. He goes into Brett's room, grabs the stuffed animal, places it

469
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:08.920
next to him, and also gives
Brett a kiss. He then goes to

470
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:11.519
Janet's room and she's like, you
know, good night, thor and like

471
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.880
he sits there for a second and
then leaves. So he has this like

472
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:17.400
patrol through the hall. Yeah,
he goes through the house, confirms that

473
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:21.319
everybody's okay, and then he lays
down in the middle of the living room

474
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:25.119
by the front door and sleeps where
he can access it. So funny story.

475
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:29.920
I don't have German shepherds or anything. But when I first got Henwolf,

476
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.359
when the first time I got really
really sick, like I was in

477
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.559
bed for days, she started sleeping
in the end of the hallway instead of

478
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:40.359
in my room. And I was
literally like, dude, I think she's

479
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:45.559
like he can't protect himself. She
a good dog, She's pretty good.

480
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.880
She's pretty good. So out in
the forest, we see a worker checking

481
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.400
tree sizes and trunks and he starts
to hear some grouse in the area.

482
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:53.279
I love how mad you were.
You were like, what is he a

483
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.359
fireman? And I wasn't tell what
he was. I didn't know what right

484
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.480
for forestry worker. And he starts
tearing some growls. He looks around and

485
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.000
he like leans against the tree and
he looks up the tree and he is

486
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.880
immediately terrorized and he starts to sprint
in fear. He gets to one other

487
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.559
side of the tree, takes refuge
on it, looks up and to see

488
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.799
a were wolf just jump down and
munch on his head as blood sprays everywhere.

489
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:17.000
Yeah, that wolf bites right through
his safety helmet. Yes it does.

490
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:22.039
Oh Sha, you gotta upgrade the
helmets to consider lycanthropy the defense against

491
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.240
were wolves. Yes. So the
next morning, Jane gets a call from

492
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:26.960
her brother Ted, who tells her
that he's back in the area and invites

493
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.960
bretton her out to the lake.
They drive out and we see Thor in

494
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.680
the front seat as Brett's in the
back, and Thoris has got his head

495
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.200
out the window enjoying the ride.
As they're going along this little road along

496
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:38.519
the lake. And you were even
commenting about how you would hate to be

497
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:42.400
the helicopter. Yeah, because it's
a dirt road in between trees, and

498
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:47.960
as they're shooting this, like this
helicopter shot, you just barely see the

499
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:48.880
car here and there. I was
like, God, that would suck to

500
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.400
have to arrange that in the helicopter. So they arrive at the lake and

501
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.640
that's where they find Ted living in
a large camper. Ted embraces Janis and

502
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.279
Brett and even Thor, and Ted
invites him into the camper, and Thor

503
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.440
picks up a scent and he starts
sniffing on the outside of the forest before

504
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:06.279
he picks up another cent and goes
into the forest. Ted asks Janet about

505
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:07.960
things, and she comments that it's
adjusting to a small town has been a

506
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.400
lot easier for her than it has
Brett. He has no friends, and

507
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:14.880
she's a little worried about him,
and he tells her how happy he is,

508
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.279
and Janet senses that there's something off
with him. He's not telling her

509
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.039
everything, and he mentions that Marjorie
left him and went to Seattle. And

510
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.960
in the camper, Brett finds a
book on the lore of were wolves and

511
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:29.599
begins flipping through it, which is
a very subtle, you know, not

512
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:31.279
showing your hand at all, just
leaving that out, not at all.

513
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.599
Back in the fort, you get
that exact book and just leave it on

514
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.519
my coffee table. Trust you don't
have it already. Well, well,

515
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.960
so, for for four years I
kept a copy of Bad As I Want

516
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:45.440
to Be by Dennis Rodman on my
coffee table. You did so that people

517
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.160
would always see it, didn't you
pay like ninety eight cents for that.

518
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.200
I bet it was less. You
think was less? Oh my god.

519
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.599
So in the forest, Thor finds
the remains of the worker and they are

520
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:58.240
scattered up this tree. Like he
comes to this tree and there's some clothes

521
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:00.359
on the ground, and then as
we pan up the tree, there's just

522
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.799
a limb, a torso, shredded
clothing. Blood. Well, there's usually

523
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:06.319
limbs and trees. God, damn
it, I know you're gonna say that.

524
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.480
I mean, that part's not so
shocking, and it's just it's a

525
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:15.480
pretty graphic scene. It's shocking.
Yeah. So he's nervous about Ted as

526
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:16.720
he makes his way back to the
camper, and he slow to approach him

527
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:19.680
because inside the camper, like Ted's
like, you know, trying to get

528
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:21.799
him back over and throws just a
little unsure and Ted's like, you know,

529
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:23.079
come here, boy, and he
goes up to him and licks him

530
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:27.039
and then whinds a little bit.
And that's when Ted comments on, you

531
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.279
know, knows an old dog when
he sees one. Yeah, he makes

532
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.759
a lot of references to the idea
like that he's just some like old dog,

533
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.160
yeah, and just a lone wolf
running around and uh ha ha,

534
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:42.160
fun with metaphors. So Ted goes
to wish them a good night. He

535
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.400
says he's got to get to bed
and they've got a long drive ahead,

536
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:46.200
but Janet invites him to come stay
in their backyard, but he says,

537
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:49.880
you know, maybe maybe later,
not right now. They leave, and

538
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.599
the next day Ted calls Janet crying
and he says that he appreciated the trip,

539
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.440
and he states, you know,
family is the most important thing.

540
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:58.039
It's all we've got, and she
can just hear that there's something wrong in

541
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:00.559
his tone, and that's when they
cut back to Ted in his campers.

542
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.240
He's peeking out and we see that
the cops are everywhere. Yeah, the

543
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:06.880
body has been found. Yeah.
So but you you you made a really

544
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:08.079
good point where we were watching it
were like you were like he'd be the

545
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:10.800
first suspect, and I was like, well, he has no priors.

546
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:15.360
Yeah, he's just a guy who
camps. Yeah. And also it's clearly

547
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.079
in a yeah like it does.
They're not like, well, this is

548
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.280
either a wild animal or a man
with a lot of knives on his arms.

549
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.039
So Jana asks if there's a problem, and we see, like I

550
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.840
said, the police have arrived.
They're taping off the area. Janta invites

551
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.199
him once again to come stay,
and Ted accepts his time, so she

552
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:31.719
tells him he can come and go
as he pleases. As we see he's

553
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:36.280
parked in the backyard behind the house, and you know, they're embracing each

554
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:37.440
other talking about how great this is. She says, you know, do

555
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:42.239
whatever you want as long as you
follow my rules and apparently live out of

556
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.920
my fridge and live out of his
fridge. I mean, I guess that's

557
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.039
the thing. I mean he does. He does take food from their house.

558
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.239
He does so. Later that night, we see Thor watching Ted with

559
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:54.639
concern. He begins barking, getting
Janet's attention as she goes downstairs. She

560
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:58.000
sees him going crazy and she's like, you want to go outside? So

561
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:01.679
she lets him outside and chure and
chore, wow, and sure, Thor

562
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.679
charges Ted's camper, and we see
also that it's a full moon, and

563
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.880
Thor makes his way through the forest, coming upon a were wolf chained handcuffed

564
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:12.559
to a tree and just kind of
freaking out as it looks over at him,

565
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.000
growls. Thor growls back, but
then Janet calls for the dog and

566
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.239
Eventually Thor's back home. She pulls
him back as he's resisting because he's like,

567
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:20.880
you know, you don't want to
go this way, like I gotta

568
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:22.920
go protect you. She's like no, no, no, come home,

569
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.679
come on, and drags him back
home. She's like, I get it.

570
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:29.400
You smell the squirrel or something.
Let's go to bed. So the

571
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:31.840
next morning, Janet prepares breakfast as
we see Thor and Brett outside as Brett

572
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:35.760
tries to get him a play ball, but Thor goes over and peas on

573
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:39.840
Ted's camper, marking his territory.
Yeah, good boy. Inside news breaks

574
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:44.280
talking about a curfew that is an
effect in Timberland, which is where Ted

575
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.119
was at as a fifth murder has
now taken place with a family of three

576
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.599
that was attacked as what appears to
be a wide animal, possibly a grizzly

577
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:52.599
bear. Well, I mean they're
in the right part of the country for

578
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:59.039
grizzly bears as that they are probably
probably they kind of keep it as we

579
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:00.199
didn't look at the license It's super
hard, so I guess we could have

580
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.599
done that. I mean I didn't
notice any clear to view license plates,

581
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:08.199
A good point. We see Ted
exit the camper and noticing that Thor hasn't

582
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:14.079
Pepa. Noticing that Thor has marked
this territory, Brett takes Thor inside and

583
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.199
Janet asked him why didn't she tell
him about Timberline and the curfew, Like

584
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.280
you know, I guess, and
you know, why didn't you say anything?

585
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:20.639
It is like, oh, I
meant to you, but I just

586
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:22.679
got distracted, and she's like,
well, I guess you can't go back

587
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:27.440
until the curfews lift lifted at this
point, yeah, which yeah. So

588
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.480
Ted gotes to say he was gonna
tell her about that, but Thor stops

589
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:32.480
him, growling at Ted and tells
him, all in good time, good

590
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:36.519
boy, all in good time.
So they're already kind of having no he

591
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.079
knows that he knows that eventually Thor
is gonna go for him. Yeah,

592
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:44.800
because Thor is sense is what a
threat he is, so he knows that

593
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:46.760
it's gonna go down. Yeah.
So inside the house where Wolf of London

594
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:51.039
is on the TV and he walks
in. Ted walks in as a transformation

595
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:52.559
scene is taking place with the man
turning into a were wolf, which makes

596
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.320
him laugh and Brett's like, why
are you laughing? It's not funny.

597
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.599
He's like, sure it is.
Look at see how it's ants stay on

598
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:06.079
in reality is Wiener would be all
over the place. What you didn't say?

599
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:09.239
That did say that he did not. They get into a debate basically

600
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:12.800
about what it takes to kill a
werewolf, and Brett says the thing about

601
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.599
silver bullets, and they also talk
about the moon. Yeah, so so

602
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:22.519
basically we get a revelation that in
this reality of were wolves, silver bullets

603
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:27.480
don't matter. A werewolf is not
impossible to kill. Uh. He even

604
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.920
makes reference the fact that he killed
one because I think I think blowing its

605
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:32.679
head off with the shotgun to do
it. But he also mentions that it's

606
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.440
not a full moon, and surprisingly
not a bad moon. Not a bad

607
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.760
moon either, but any moon,
any moon. They didn't really explain if

608
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:44.239
that means that he gets a break
on the couple of new moons. So

609
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.400
the only thing that I can think
in regards of movie wise that kind of

610
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:51.519
compares to this setup of the lore
is American werewolf in Paris. If I

611
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.400
remember correctly, they inject themselves during
a full moon to turn into the wolves,

612
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:59.639
like there's an actual serum or something
like that. I hate them it

613
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.159
was not a fan of them.
I was such a not fan when it

614
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:06.679
came out. You know a movie, you know, a movie stinks out

615
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.800
loud when you're like thirteen and you're
like, this sucks. Like when I

616
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:13.719
saw Dracula two thousand in the theater, I was like, eleven, did

617
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.280
you see that's getting a four K
release from shout hear that that barrel scraping.

618
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.280
They're gonna run out, They're gonna
start, They're gonna start having to

619
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:27.199
go through multiverses to where other movies
got made that didn't hear in order to

620
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.360
keep the release slate up. But
I would like to revisit Tracula two thousand.

621
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.800
I mean, I remember it not
being good, but I wouldn't mind

622
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.280
checking it out again. At least
all three. I only watched the one.

623
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:43.360
Well, if you wonder how bad
of an experience it was watching Dracula

624
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:45.880
two thousand theater for me, I
was like eleven or twelve, And when

625
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:52.159
I walked out, I was like, that sucked. And I'm not kidding,

626
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.239
I'm being dead serious. That was
when my brain went, Wow,

627
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:59.079
bad movies can be in the theater
too. At the time, I knew

628
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:02.320
about renting a and a movie.
Yeah, and I assumed that bad movies

629
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.800
were the product of direct to video. You know, we're the product of

630
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.400
like Blockbuster, not not the movie
cinema. Yeah and yeah. After I

631
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:13.519
walked out, I was like,
wow, I guess crap movies are in

632
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:15.599
the movie theater too. And but
I don't mean it like I wasn't like

633
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:21.280
being some edge lord. Yeah.
I literally had the thought like added to

634
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:24.119
knowledge bad movies in theaters too.
Whenever I think of bad movies and theaters,

635
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:28.119
I just think of what your mom
said after Halloewen Resurrection. Were you

636
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.119
both where She was like that wasn't
very good and you were like, no,

637
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:31.400
no, it wasn't. Yeah,
my mom was just like I don't

638
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:32.920
think that was very good. I
was like it was not. You know,

639
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.280
my mom sitting in the fifth row
of the theater while I'm in the

640
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:45.199
second row watching Halloween Resurrection because they
wouldn't let me go in by myself.

641
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.000
I mean I was like fourteen or
something. But so she sat there under

642
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.960
the light of the projector doing her
schoolwork while I watched the movie. That's

643
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.119
awesome, eh, you know at
your mom went in so like I got

644
00:39:55.480 --> 00:40:00.079
tickets for Glorious Bastards the Tarantino movie
when it was coming out, and I

645
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.719
wouldn't think it was the nineteen seventies
exploitation. Maybe Andy would have showed something

646
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.800
like that. That's true. Yeah, but I got the tickets because I

647
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.559
was eighteen years old at the time. Ex Ander I think was either seventeen

648
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:13.559
or sixteen, and they wouldn't let
him in with me. So I called

649
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.119
dad. Did you explain that you
were lovers? I guess I could have.

650
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.880
That would have helped. But I
called Dad and I was like,

651
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:21.880
you want to come in and see
this movie? He's like no, like

652
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.159
just flat out like nope, no, no, like either either you go

653
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:28.039
see it or like both get in
the car and or you know, or

654
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.039
I'm just gonna leave. Like he
we drove there, like he didn't even

655
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:31.920
have to come. I called him
to see if he would just go to

656
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:34.440
the movie so we could go,
and he was like, no, not

657
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:38.599
interested. That's my father. Well, for the record, you were an

658
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:43.400
adult. I mean I was still
in high school. Well, I mean,

659
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.440
and it's questionable if you're an adult
even now. But my mother did

660
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:51.000
those things. I mean, I'm
not just discounting my mother's kindness and generosity.

661
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:52.400
But I was a literal kid.
Yeah, Like I was a literal

662
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:57.800
child, and it would have been
a huge bummer to miss Freddy Versus Jason

663
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.599
and Halloween Resurrection because they wouldn't let
us send. I mean, one of

664
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.760
my best theatrical experiences as a young
kid seeing an our rate of movie was

665
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:08.800
My Bloody Valentine three D opening night
in I got your beat? Oh what

666
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:13.360
you got I saw? I'm not
kidding, I'm not like saying this to

667
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:17.360
beat you. I saw My Bloody
Valentine on a preview screening a week before

668
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:21.599
it opened. No shit, how'd
that happened? One of my wrestling buddies,

669
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:23.920
Ah, I had an extra ticket
and he was like, yo,

670
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:27.239
man, I know you love horror
movies. You want to go? And

671
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.719
I was like yeah, So we
went, and I remember I was I

672
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:37.119
was probably eighteen or nineteen. I
was eighteen, and I remember I was

673
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:38.239
such a so annoying. I mean, I'm still annoying, but I was

674
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:43.320
annoying then too, And I put
on my three D glasses while because like

675
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.519
this was a preview screen and so
like people came out and talked, and

676
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:49.840
so I put them on and when
the usher walked up to say like,

677
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:51.960
Okay, everybody, here's how this
is gonna work or whatever. I just

678
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.480
went, well, it's like he's
right in front of me. Did everybody

679
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:59.199
laugh? No? One laughed,
Oh man, which was even better because

680
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:04.320
I was right. Don't care.
So Ted asked Janet about last night and

681
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.320
she tells him about Thor's fit.
Ted tries to advise against letting Brett play

682
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.920
outside until the creature is found,
and he also says Thor too, you

683
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.400
may want to keep him you of
the house. Yeah. Well, he

684
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:16.599
suggests that maybe the wild animal that
attacked where he was staying that when they

685
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:21.760
run out of food, they'll travel
sometimes very very far. So he was

686
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.800
saying like, maybe you should just
kind of pretend that it's already here and

687
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:28.800
keep your kid and keep Thor in
the house, you know, whenever you

688
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.280
can. Because they don't establish where
Timberline is compared to the house, but

689
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.199
we do understand that it's at least
like a two hour car ride basically.

690
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:38.440
Well, but here's the thing,
city boy, what, No, it's

691
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:42.519
a two hour drive and at least
half of its dirt road dirt road,

692
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.079
So that doesn't mean it has to
be very far because on a dirt road

693
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:46.599
you can only go like I mean, depends on the road, but thirty

694
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:51.840
to forty miles per hour point you're
not going sixty five. So it could

695
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.599
be only you know, as the
crow fly sixty miles away. But if

696
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.400
it's remote enough, it's gonna take
a while to get there. Is that

697
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.800
the is that the Brandon Lee crow
or the scars Guard crow that everybody loves

698
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:07.480
right now? Eddie Furlong the only
crow? So yeah, how do you

699
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:12.599
feel about everybody's reaction to the Crow? You want me to sidebar on this

700
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:16.159
because I could absolutely do it.
Please no, David God. I mean,

701
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:22.239
if you really want you this is
our show, you can take a

702
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.880
second then and just say no.
Recently, there has been some screen grabs

703
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.559
from the new Crow movie that Bill
scars Guard is starring in that have dropped.

704
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:36.320
Screen grabs is a strong word I
would call them. And a lot

705
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:40.840
of people are commenting on Machine Gun
Crow, his appearance and the overall look

706
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:45.280
of it and everything in regards to
like being like Jared Leto's Joker and it.

707
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:49.880
I understand where people are coming from, but also I just really do

708
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.320
not like how quick people are to
close their mind to something without even haven't

709
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:54.559
seen a trailer or anything yet.
I mean, don't get me wrong,

710
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:58.199
I don't love the look either,
But at the same time, this movie

711
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:00.880
has been in the making for twenty
years. That's not impressive. No,

712
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:05.079
but I mean we've gone through Bradley
Cooper is the Crow option. Joseph Gordon

713
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.760
Levitt was optioned at one point.
Jason Momo was optioned at one point.

714
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:13.920
I'm the crow. I'm the size
of a doorway. It can't rain all

715
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.119
the time. Brother, But I
don't think, he says, Brother.

716
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:20.239
I don't know. All I know
is I really like his villain in Fast

717
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:22.039
X, so I'm really he's that
second one to come out. But anyway

718
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.719
back to it, no, no, no, but hold on, it

719
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:29.880
looks stupid. I'm not saying it
doesn't. But at the same time too,

720
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.840
like everybody went fucking crazy over it
because he looked stupid. David,

721
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:37.000
they all, and they started comparing
it to Sonic the Hedgehog. How they

722
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:38.880
think they're going to be able to
change the movie, And I don't think

723
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.880
that's going to happen. It might
actually, I don't know. Oh,

724
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.960
you're right, because as of right
now in twenty twenty four when we're recording

725
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:51.599
this, studios are doing great.
There are no flops, no big budget

726
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:52.760
flops. Hat. I don't think
they're going to change it. I'm just

727
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:54.800
gonna say that now. I don't
think they're going to change it. I

728
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:59.360
mean, he literally looks like a
guy that you try not to make eye

729
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:01.239
contact with it gas station. I'm
sorry, but in an era of everybody

730
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:07.320
loving post Malone and Adam Levine and
everybody Pete Davidson, dude, yeah,

731
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:12.960
a lot of people are crazy about
those guys. But what you're forgetting is

732
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.480
those are young people who don't watch
movies. At the same time, though

733
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:20.840
that that look makes absolute sense to
what a lot of people were attracted to.

734
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.320
Right now, is my point.
Speak for yourself alone. It's also

735
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:28.719
based off of a graphic novel or
one of the one of the stories they're

736
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:30.440
doing. I can't remember the specific
one, but they showed somebody put up

737
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:34.320
the cover art of it and he
looks exactly like that character. So they're

738
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.719
going with apparently they are going with
an Eric Draven story. So you're saying

739
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:43.000
that the guy who wrote the Crow
comic book invented the look that became popular

740
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.159
thirty years later. James Obarr.
Yes, I mean that's not hard facts.

741
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:52.559
The machine gun, Kelly and and
those two weird people from South Africa

742
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:57.480
that have a band. Oh are
you talking about d word Diantewood? Yeah

743
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.480
word or something like that. Whatever. Yeah, uh, chappy chappy chaffy.

744
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:15.960
Do you even movie? Will be
right back, welcome back to Do

745
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:24.199
You Even Movie? I literally just
did a did an episode on all all

746
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:28.000
of the Crow films that are available
right now with our good buddy Birdman over

747
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.199
this week and geek and I can
tell you, as somebody who has seen

748
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.599
Crow City of Angels, Crow Salvation
and Crow Wicked Prayer, if you think

749
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.480
this is bad, you clearly haven't
been paying attention to the series, which

750
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:42.320
I mean, I don't blame anybody
not for doing that. But at the

751
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:45.280
same time, shut up. But
at the same time, at the same

752
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:51.719
time, I'm i am more open
minded than your average moviegoer because I'm ship.

753
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:52.719
Yeah, I'm willing to give it
a chance. And that's that's my

754
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:54.960
point. Is I mean, Dave, But I mean, but no ship

755
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:58.519
Dave. Yes, you're a massive
movie thing. I know, so am

756
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:02.199
I I know, I mean,
I I I'll probably end up seeing the

757
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:06.320
New Crow because you're gonna go.
I mean, I may not take you

758
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:13.880
now because of that sweet but no
bring My point being is that I I'm

759
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:16.480
just saying judge slowly because I'm not. I mean, Alex Proyce came out

760
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:20.360
and said some shit against it to
and that's the director of the first one.

761
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:22.360
Yeah, because I sent that to
you, and I was like,

762
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:24.119
what does he know? He directed
the least Good Crow. And Rochelle Davis,

763
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:27.480
who played Sarah in the original movie, also came out and said some

764
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:30.119
shit against it. So, I
mean, it's it's not it's no surprise

765
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.599
that it's pissed people off. What's
the one that said it was is Matthew

766
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:37.880
Lillard playing Jared Lennar or is Matthew
Lillard playing the There's a meme that called

767
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.559
Matthew Lillard it's a Jared Lenna's joker
played by Matthew Lillard, something along those

768
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:45.199
lines like it's yeah, me too. But no, I mean, I'm

769
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:47.239
I'm not excited for this movie.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say that

770
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:51.639
right now. I'm not excited.
I will go see it. I will

771
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:53.559
keep an open mind because I love
the original Crow, and I like I

772
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:57.480
like most of the sequels too,
But at the same time, like,

773
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:00.760
I just feel like the look is
not surprising, and in my opinion,

774
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:05.039
I think that's kind of the thing. Yeah, is people are like,

775
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.880
oh, he does look like a
guy at a gas station that you're afraid

776
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:13.880
they'll stare at. Basically, yes, And I mean Brandon Lee was a

777
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:19.239
movie hooligan in the first Crow.
Yeah, you didn't. You could believe

778
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.719
he was in with the wrong crowd, but you didn't believe he himself was

779
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:24.920
bad. That's true. But at
that same time too, though, I

780
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:29.480
mean scars Card already looks weird.
Yeah, it's already gonna be hard to

781
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.280
look at him and not think he's
a monster. It goes without saying that

782
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:36.840
The Crow was a time at the
nineties where there wasn't a lot of movies

783
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:39.199
like that. There was those comic
adaptations they were doing were weird. Like

784
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:44.800
you had Steel, you had the
Crow, you had don't say Steel in

785
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.760
the same breath as the Crow,
respect you had the Rocketeer. You had

786
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:52.840
a lot of odd superhero movies at
that time. And the Crow has a

787
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.000
distinct look to it in style and
soundtrack and all that, but it was

788
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.920
of that time, and I think
trying to do the crow right now is

789
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:01.159
a bold move. But at the
same time too, is it really necessary

790
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:05.480
to do it? Yeah? No, no, it's not clearly not no,

791
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:09.039
it's not. Uh. But my
last point, and we'll get off

792
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:15.800
of this, is scars Guard literally
is a weird looking guy. And I'm

793
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:20.400
not trying to be mean. He's
talented too, but like literally the movie

794
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:24.840
Barbarian, Yeah, literally, they
cast him because you can't look at his

795
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:29.159
weird eyes and not think he's dangerous. Do you not remember me sitting next

796
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:30.559
to you? Spoiler alert for Barbarian? You do not remember me sitting next

797
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:32.480
to you? And I'm just like
that scars Guard's in on it, and

798
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:35.800
then he dies and then I'm like, oh, I guess I'm wrong.

799
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:38.840
You know, you could have so
easily not spoiled that, and it still

800
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:45.079
is in the first oh double spoiler
alert spoiler alert. No, So I

801
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:47.679
mean I don't know. I think
scars Guard was a weird choice. Anyway,

802
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:51.440
I will end. I will end
this discussion with this. It is.

803
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:53.960
It's coming, whether we like it
or not, and not everybody has

804
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:55.960
to like it. I totally get
that. But at the same time too,

805
00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.960
like, I saw a lot of
people I've never even heard talk about

806
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.599
the crow or even mentioned the crow
and everything on Facebook and Twitter and whatnot

807
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:05.920
talking about it, and I'm just
like, why do you care? You

808
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:08.440
have him into a hot topic in
a while? I guess, I guess

809
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:14.239
not actually really happened. It's been
a while, yeah, ever since you

810
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:19.480
started wearing flannel. So back to
bad mood. Janet and Ted are still

811
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:21.840
talking to the kitchen and Janet says, you know, Thor is one hundred

812
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:23.559
and five pounds and and Ted basically
tells you like, big deal. A

813
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:27.960
gray wolf can get up to two
hundred and ten pounds, which is true.

814
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.480
Wolves can get pretty big. So
Janet shows concern for Ted, but

815
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:34.360
he leaves the house and goes back
to his camper. We see Thor post

816
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.000
up outside Ted's camper as he emerges
later with a pair of handcuffs and he's

817
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.960
in his sweat and his sweatshirts.
Ted looks over to the sky see the

818
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:43.559
sun is going down, but he
also sees that Thor is not moving,

819
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:45.880
like Thor is stuck, and he's
like trying to slowly approach him and shows

820
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:49.280
his teeth. So he just backs
up and goes into the camper and he

821
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:52.079
peeks out of his window and just
watches Thor. Thor doesn't move. Yeah,

822
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:54.280
Thoris posted right in front of his
door, watching him. Yeah,

823
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:59.920
So he goes back out, and
Thor is slightly showing his teeth once again,

824
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.239
and the two just have a steering
contest. And then Ted slowly walks

825
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:06.360
past Thord, not making a step
towards the house. Thor goes to follow

826
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.840
him and uh slow and Ted tells
him to piss off as Thord growls before

827
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:14.840
Ted calls Janet to call him back
in. Later, Brett goes downstairs let's

828
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:16.719
Thor out after he barks, and
Thor goes into the forest, finding the

829
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:21.320
clothes, the handcuffs and Ted.
And now he reveals that he knows that

830
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:24.320
Ted is the werewolf completely. I
like what you're talking about Thor, Like

831
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:28.639
he's a like he's a human character, like and then he knows for sure.

832
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:30.239
I think he knew from the smell. I'll get to that when we

833
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.480
get to the notes. Wow,
Dave, I say, I'm just gonna

834
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.480
say there's some notes coming in full, Dave. Everybody so Thor makes his

835
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.800
way back to the house, finding
a wolfed out Ted approaching the house.

836
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:43.320
He goes and attacks him and they
fight for a little bit. As Thor

837
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.840
suffers some injuries. Janet kicks on
the exterior lights and the whole yard illuminates,

838
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.599
and of course Ted runs off.
She goes outside to find the injured

839
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:52.159
Thor with some cuts on him,
and Janet calls the sheriff as Thor goes

840
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:53.800
into Brett's room and lays on him
in a really sweet shot, just full

841
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:57.920
on protecting. He's very very Sweetyeah. The dog just lays on the child

842
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:00.559
to protect him. So Janet goes
to Ted's camper in the morning, finding

843
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:06.000
him the next day, finding him
gone, but discovering Ted's journal and detailing

844
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:08.280
that he's having blackouts, He's waking
up covered in blood that's not his own.

845
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:12.519
And then to add insult to injury, she finds bloody pictures of Marjorie's

846
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:15.119
corpse, who was supposed to be
in Seattle. Yeah, well, I

847
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:20.760
mean, for the record, considering
how Seattle's doing these days. So Janet

848
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:22.800
reads that Ted believes that there is
no hope, even though he's come to

849
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.239
his family hoping for a cure,
but he doesn't think there is a cure.

850
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:29.280
He hoping that maybe love would do
something protect him. Yeah, So

851
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:31.320
outside the camper, Ted returns,
wolfed out and he begins to approach the

852
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:35.159
camper, but Janet leaves with no
sign of the creature around. But she

853
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:37.519
makes her way back to the house
and we see the Flopsy has now returned,

854
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.960
holding a giant meat cleaver at a
piece of steak. Yes, and

855
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.679
I'm assuming he wants to do something
bad to Thorne. I think so.

856
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:50.719
So they of course do the silliest
thing where he just does the whole like

857
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.079
here dogg ye hear doggy, And
then they do the werewolf stands up his

858
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:58.800
hands behind him and he gets viscerated. He gets a visceraate, he gets

859
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:00.960
his wrist slash, his guts open, his throat gets slashed, and also

860
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:04.960
like his hand is like sliced down
the middle too. It's pretty gruesome.

861
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.199
And then he just gets launched back
in the woods. And that's the end

862
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:09.519
of that guy. That is the
end of Flopsy. So the next morning

863
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:14.280
we see Ted return to the camper
as the sheriff arrives, telling Janet of

864
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:16.719
the news of the Flopsy's body being
found about a few hundred yards away from

865
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:21.000
the house, and he suspects that
maybe Thor attacked him. Well, I

866
00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:23.159
mean, good dog, Janet says, there's no way, but the sheriff

867
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:25.960
advises her that once a dog gets
a taste for blood, it is not

868
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:30.400
safe around the family, let alone
kids anymore. So he may want to

869
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.760
think about getting rid of him and
finding a new pooch. As the style

870
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:37.119
guy Lifestyle of this program, Lifestyle
coach and Riget Kuto, Ladies and gentlemen,

871
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:43.639
Uh, it is not true that
when animals taste blood or human blood,

872
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:49.599
that they're changed forever. That is
an old myth and it sounds badass.

873
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.440
It does, But don't let that
help you. Don't let that change

874
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:55.320
your opinion of your gerbil. Just
because it bit your thumb one time,

875
00:53:55.840 --> 00:54:00.800
It's probably still just a gerbil.
Kids, So she lets Thor outside and

876
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:04.199
watches him go right towards the camper
again. Ted exits and Thor and he

877
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:07.480
stare each other down once again,
as Janet questions Ted about last night.

878
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:08.639
He says he went for a run, and Janet questions, you know,

879
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:13.280
you didn't hear anything, You didn't
see anything, and watches him go right

880
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.800
back into the camper again, and
then Thor suddenly lunges or excuse me,

881
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.760
Ted goes to go back to the
camper, and Thor suddenly lunges, sinking

882
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.760
his teeth into Ted's arm. She
gets him into the camper, telling him

883
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:24.800
that she can't hold him back anymore. She pulls him back and Janet locks

884
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:28.679
Thor in the spare room in the
house and calls animal control. As the

885
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:30.519
next scene we see her open the
door. She takes Thor out, and

886
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:34.440
then the animal control people get him, which were actually the animal trainers on

887
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:36.440
the set, by the way,
that makes sense. Yeah, And then

888
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:40.280
it takes two guys with two I
forgot. They're called the polls the noose

889
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:43.960
poles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it took two of them,

890
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.199
and all Thor wants is to get
back into the house, getting back to

891
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:50.079
the family. Yeah, Because now
Brett comes out and Janet has to hold

892
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:52.199
him back, and Thor is just
pulling these guys up to the house.

893
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:55.679
And then that's when Ted walks out
and just mockingly waves at Thor, just

894
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:59.239
being like, hey, fuck you
dude, bye, bud, get the

895
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:01.599
family now, well, speaking of
a fuck you to Thor after that's happened.

896
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:05.760
Yeah, he heads out to the
backyard and takes a big whiz right

897
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:08.280
on right on the doghouse, and
he just has this he has this satisfying

898
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.960
that he's just oh god, he's
just so evil at this point, So

899
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:15.559
Ted makes his way to the backyard
pisces on the doghouse, and then at

900
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:17.199
dinner that night, Brett is clearly
upset. He's playing with his food and

901
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:21.119
Ted comments, you know, sometimes
it's genetics. Dogs just do that,

902
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:23.159
and that's when he comment or Brett
comments that, like, you know,

903
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:27.320
Thori's pedigree, there's no sign of
that, so like, well, Thors's

904
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.000
pedigree, that doesn't happen to them, which is also kind of a lie.

905
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:34.519
Also lie. Yeah, yeah,
I've known plenty of pure bread dogs

906
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:37.000
that have a plenty of problems.
So we see Ted scratching out his wrist

907
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.320
where thorpe bit him, and that's
when Janet comments that, you know,

908
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:42.199
he should really get it looked at
a doctor, and he's like, no,

909
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:43.880
no, it's fine, and she's
like, well you should at least

910
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:45.199
get a tetanus shot, and he's
like, I can give myself a tetanus

911
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:49.920
shot. Because he's a scientist.
Yep. So that's when she goes to

912
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:52.880
excuse herself and Brett is just playing
with his food. So he tells Brett

913
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.000
to come here, and he says, you know, there'll be other dogs,

914
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:57.519
you know, don't worry about it. Sits him on his lap,

915
00:55:57.559 --> 00:55:59.559
and that's when Janet returns and says, you know, Brett, it's time

916
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:00.760
for bed. Ted gets up and
he's like, you know, I guess

917
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:02.760
I better get to bed too,
and that's when she goes, you know,

918
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:05.760
hey, whatever happened to Marjorie?
And he's like, I told you

919
00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:09.159
Seattle, and then he leaves.
So he's still sticking on that I'm gonna

920
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:13.679
start saying that about people I don't
like Seattle. Seattle. So now is

921
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:16.280
Dave anyway Seattle? Outside the house, we see it's a full moon.

922
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:20.519
As we see, Brett's packed a
bag with some pliers and he sneaks out

923
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:23.039
of his bedroom window and jumps off
to the second story onto the ground and

924
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:27.079
gets his bike and that jump,
he just rolls to the ground and that's

925
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:30.559
a pretty high jump for a kid, just saying those young knees, they're

926
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:34.199
ready, they're ready. We see
Ted exit the camper with his handcuffs and

927
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:37.480
sweats, and he goes off into
the woods and inside Janet sees him exit

928
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:38.960
and follows him out of the woods, but not before she grabs a pistol,

929
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:43.000
only to put it back on the
shelf. And not just any pistol.

930
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:45.559
That thing was like a three fifty
seven magnum. It was three fifty

931
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:47.239
seven. So Brett arrives at the
pound and he's trying to break the chain

932
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.400
on the fence, but no luck, so he just decides to climb the

933
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:52.440
fence, but before that he shakes
it and security lights illuminate the pound.

934
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:55.480
As he climbs over the fence,
Janet comes upon Ted in the forest as

935
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:59.119
he's getting ready to chain himself to
a tree, but he stops as he

936
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:01.440
begins to smell her, and then
he comments on that, you know,

937
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:05.239
I guess I don't need these anymore. You know the secret now, and

938
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.360
we watch him begin to wolf out
as his teeth grow sharp, his eyes

939
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.039
grow yellow, and it's a pretty
bitch and scene. I mean, in

940
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:15.239
the theatrical cut it's awesome, and
the director's cut we see some boring practical

941
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:19.360
effects. Ladies and gentlemen. There
is the director's cut of Bad Moon,

942
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:22.400
and there's the theatrical cut of Bad
Moon, and the true director's cut only

943
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:24.280
came out when the Blu ray got
released, and that was because Eric read

944
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:29.000
The director never liked this transformation scene. He said that it was hokey,

945
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:32.440
it was too slow, and I
side with him on that one. I

946
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:40.840
like the original transformation right because the
movie is not I'm sorry, it's not

947
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:46.639
timeless. Yeah, it makes it
more nostalgic and fun m it makes me

948
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:50.800
feel like I rented it at a
Hollywood video. I see that. I

949
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:53.280
get that. But at the same
time, too, the transformation's way quicker

950
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:57.679
in the director's cut and way more
to the point in regards of leaving out

951
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:02.480
the bladder effects and the slow motion
morph. I love his transformation because it's

952
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:07.280
so it's so nineties. It's nineties
as fuck. I'm not gonna I'm not

953
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:10.079
gonna debate, y'all. It's fine. That's why I like it. And

954
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:14.360
it's funny because I didn't have this
opinion until you insisted we watch the old

955
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:16.599
Transformation Before we started the show,
I figured you want to watch, And

956
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.599
as soon as I watched the Old
Transformation, I was like, oh no,

957
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:22.440
I like that way more so.
Ted comments that he thought family could

958
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:25.519
save him and that love would be
the cure. But then he gives her

959
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:29.760
crap for playing big sis and you
know you made the mistake. You sent

960
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:30.760
Thor to the pound. You should
have listened to him. He was only

961
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:36.760
trying to protect you, which is
an interesting element of Pere's character because he's

962
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:40.519
like very split personality. He orchestrated
Thor being taken away. Yeah, but

963
00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:43.920
then he's like, you shouldn't have
let them take Thor away, like he

964
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:45.559
was trying to protect you and all
this stuff. Like it's very like on.

965
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:50.280
Sometimes he wants to protect them,
Ted, yes, and sometimes he

966
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:52.400
wants to kill them. Yeah,
no, absolutely so Ted begins to laugh

967
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:55.239
as his teeth grows sharp, his
voice deepens, and Jenna begins to freak

968
00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:59.039
out, realizing what's happening, and
she takes off running. As we cut

969
00:58:59.079 --> 00:59:01.400
back to Brett, who frees Thor
from the pound. Thor goes over the

970
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:05.639
fence and we see Ted now also
in full pursuit of Janet, and Thor

971
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:09.039
jumps over like a ten foot ten
well, I mean, so he goes

972
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:12.400
onto a car, goes up the
car and then jumps over the fence,

973
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:15.159
and then he's just running down the
street, dodging traffic, trying to get

974
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.559
back to the house, with Brett
also behind him, and that's when Janet

975
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:20.840
makes it back at home in time. She grabs a pistol she's trying to

976
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:23.320
load it as Ted just crashes through
the front of the window, completely wolfed

977
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:27.159
out, and chases her through the
house and they come to a corner around

978
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:30.679
the staircase. He knocks her down
and she sends up the staircase, throwing

979
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:34.280
a fricking clock in his way,
which I forgot my grandfather clock. She

980
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:37.159
just tips over. This is such
a great finale, So before going into

981
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:40.320
Brett's room, she finds his bed
is empty. As Ted crashes through the

982
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:44.800
door, Thor returns home, racing
up the steps and leaps onto Ted's back

983
00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:47.679
as we have an awesome were we'll
fight between Thor and Ted. They're hitting

984
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:51.480
each other. Blood sprang across the
room, which I forgot about, like

985
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:53.920
all this blood, so much blood, so much blood. The two fight

986
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:59.199
going in and Janet gets time to
load the gun. Thor repeatedly attacks Ted

987
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.239
as the two get into a bloody
scuffle and continue it and that's when Brett

988
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:06.639
returns home as Thora's throat across the
room. Then Ted goes to grab Brett

989
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:09.119
by the throat as Janet shouts,
get the fuck off my son and fires

990
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:13.079
that gun, emptying it into Ted's
by bye bye, bye bye bye.

991
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:15.679
It's so good. It's so good, so she runs out of bullets.

992
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:19.960
It cannot be overstated. Maryel Hemingway, Yeah, is such a great actress.

993
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:22.679
Yes she is. And she really
makes you believe everything she does.

994
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:24.199
So does Michael Pray. Yeah,
so, and it really is one of

995
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:28.679
the things that keeps the movie from
being hokey. Yeah. I think even

996
01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:30.679
with I know you don't like that
transformation, but even with the hokey transformation,

997
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:32.760
yeah, it would just be like, wow, this is a nineties

998
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:36.239
horror movie. I don't I mean, I don't hate the transformation. Why

999
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.599
do you hate the transformation? Don't
hate then, I don't hate the transformation.

1000
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:44.719
The transformation is just it. It
delays that chase sequence that gets to

1001
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.000
this finale. That's my only problem. That's my only problem. I know

1002
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:50.519
it's an eighty minute movie, and
I'm sure it's like eighty one minutes of

1003
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:57.039
the transformation scene, but you're full
of shit. Go to hell? Do

1004
01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:07.440
you even? Movie? Will be
right back. Welcome back to do you

1005
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:15.599
even? Movie? So Ted rises
up and Thor lunches at him, knocking

1006
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:17.599
the two out the window. Bloodied
and hurt, Ted goes back into the

1007
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:21.880
forest as Thor follows, and the
next morning we see Thoris still on his

1008
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:23.920
trail, sniffing him out as he
comes across the very bloodied and injured Ted,

1009
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:28.480
who's hiding behind a tree. Thor
cautiously approaches him, whining as Ted

1010
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:30.679
tells him to do it, finish
the job, and that's when Thor lunches

1011
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:35.519
at him and we get a very
wet sound effect on the attack. Now,

1012
01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:39.199
but before we move beyond that,
Yeah, that seems really really good.

1013
01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:45.360
No, it is because Perey he
is covered in like mortal wound's think

1014
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:50.119
every wound in the Best Friend in
American World in London, the nastiest giant

1015
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:52.159
gashes. But they're all so deep, they're all deep, and they're all

1016
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:59.000
very gross. Yeah. Yeah,
And his performance on top of that is

1017
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:02.079
so incredible because you really see that
moment where he's like I'm gonna lose and

1018
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:05.960
then but then there's also this moment
where I feel like the reason he's talking

1019
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:13.360
to Thor like that is almost because
he's made his full transformation to being a

1020
01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:15.920
part of the natural order. Yeah, so in his mind he's like,

1021
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:20.360
you won, you won kill me? Well, and I also think too,

1022
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:22.639
this is one question I have.
So when she empties that gun into

1023
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:29.199
his back, do the bullets stay
inside his body or do they fall out

1024
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:34.599
when he when he goes back into
human. I don't know. Yeah,

1025
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:37.519
I don't know either, because it's
like my question is, does he know

1026
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:39.239
he's gonna die so he just wants
to get it over with or is he

1027
01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:44.239
just completely done fighting because Thorp protectar
well, he knows that if he transforms

1028
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:47.280
again kill him yeah. Yeah,
And he knows that once he transforms,

1029
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:52.119
he can't he can't make because he's
not intellectual once he's the wolf. Yeah,

1030
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:54.679
so he'd rather just die on his
own terms, is what I would

1031
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:58.960
think. So that is when we
see back at the house that we see

1032
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:01.239
workers are repairing the smell window,
Janet pets Thor, telling him how he

1033
01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:04.760
saved the family and what a good
dog he is. She looks away,

1034
01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:07.039
and then suddenly Thor morse into a
were wolf and grows at her, Janet

1035
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:10.639
shoots up awake, full blow and
jump scared. Jo's up awake, revealing

1036
01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:15.000
a nightmare as she and Brett pet
Thor as the camera pans out, and

1037
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:19.360
that, my friends, is nineteen
ninety six is bad Moon and it does

1038
01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:22.519
not have that song? And what
does it? I know, I always

1039
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:25.920
want that song. Seven million dollars, you couldn't get that song, guess

1040
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.960
not. I guess not. I
wonder what they spent all that money on,

1041
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:35.360
sincerely, the more morphing scene,
nice problem money. Well, probably

1042
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:39.800
the morphing and probably a lot of
the uh scenery shots. Well, I

1043
01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:44.760
mean are those expensive? Uh not? Once you're already doing them, once

1044
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:45.960
you rent the helicopter, you just
do them and do them and do them.

1045
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:50.480
That I mean, but in the
days before drones. But I mean,

1046
01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:52.760
I'm sure Mariel Hemingway and Michael Pray
got paid very well. Yeah,

1047
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:57.920
I bet you. They had a
ton of time to film. I know

1048
01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:00.760
for a fact they shot way more
effects than use yep. So I mean,

1049
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:04.239
I you know, and I don't
know, But I am curious because

1050
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:09.119
seven million is just so much money
for for even I mean for a small

1051
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:12.159
theatrical movie. You think it would
be more like two. Well, I'm

1052
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:15.079
sure they cleaned up the box office, right, it's probably this made a

1053
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:17.320
killing. I'm sure. Oh,
I'm sure. So released in November one,

1054
01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:20.599
on November first of nineteen ninety six, this was a seven million dollar

1055
01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:26.599
budget movie and the box office was
one point one million. Now I'm not

1056
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:30.039
a doctor. Uh huh, but
is that less? That is very less?

1057
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:32.760
Okay, don't want to get too
scientific. No, not at all.

1058
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:36.440
So this was shot at anmore in
Vancouver, Canada. Of surprise,

1059
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:41.960
surprise, Canada, Canada. You
gotta see your ancestral homeland. Correctly,

1060
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:44.960
shut up. So you want to
hear some fun facts about the movie?

1061
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:48.199
Of course, not too bad.
So changes from the novel to screen included

1062
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:50.599
a big change to the makeup of
the family. In the novel, it

1063
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:54.880
was two parents and three children,
plus the dog, who sees the family

1064
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:57.960
as his pack and must be defended
at all costs. The dog's perceptions of

1065
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.639
events are treated in great details,
as in the relationship of thor he has

1066
01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:03.960
with his family. This adds a
touch of confusion as to whether the werewolf

1067
01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:09.039
is a member who he must be
respected, or if it's actual a predator

1068
01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:11.480
that he has to defend against I
like that, and I could see how

1069
01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:14.280
that would not translate on screen,
so you just skip it, but in

1070
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:16.480
the book it would what especially because
the book is told through pov of Thor

1071
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:19.280
and while the film drops that approach. Several dogs were using the film,

1072
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:23.599
each with various skills, but the
hero dog is one used for up close

1073
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:28.639
ups and general scenes and took months
to find. Red was shown Eric Red

1074
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:30.840
was shown multiple dogs, but a
photo of an untrained German shepherd caused him

1075
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:33.639
to state he knew instantly that he
found his Thor. The three dogs were

1076
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:36.119
Primo, who was using all the
close ups and did most of the work,

1077
01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:41.320
Decca and older female German shepherd used
for over the shoulder shots or if

1078
01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:44.800
Thor was lying down, and there
was a Russian border German shepherd attack dog

1079
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:47.119
and a mini shepherd that were employed
in the final fight sequence. Nice.

1080
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:54.599
Yeah, no, that's that's great. And uh, I don't know,

1081
01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:58.440
I'm just I'm just laughing at,
like at the whole situation, like being

1082
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:00.719
like that's the dog, Like,
well, it's untrained, that's that's a

1083
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:04.360
dog. It's like finding the lead
actor of your big movie at the grocery

1084
01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:08.480
store. So Eric Read's only difference
to the director's cut is the ending of

1085
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:12.079
the transformation sequence. He cut it
due to poor visual effects, stating he's

1086
01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:15.480
always hated that scene for over two
decades and says fans have been complaining about

1087
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:18.199
it to him for just as long. Just you. I've never met Eric

1088
01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:20.960
Red. I would love to the
film's animal trainers, like I said,

1089
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:25.599
play the animal control officers in the
film. Michael Bean and Robert Patrick lobbied

1090
01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:28.559
for the role of Ted, but
Red chose the pare because of the power

1091
01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:31.719
he has as an actor. Dog
trainers also shared the Pere's comfort performing with

1092
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:34.719
the Canine co star reminded him of
Jim Belushi on the set of Canine.

1093
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:39.840
They quote as along with Roy Schreider
and fam Ka Jensen, Michael Perey is

1094
01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:43.280
one of the best experiences I've had
with a star as a director. So,

1095
01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:46.559
and I want to mention nothing against
Michael Bean or Robert Patrick. Yeah,

1096
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:49.880
they're both very talented actors, but
yet Michael Pray has so much more

1097
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:53.760
intensity. I think so too,
because he's so subtle. I was thinking

1098
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:57.239
about Patrick, but I feel like
Patrick would just play psychotic. Well,

1099
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.599
his nice guy. He does good
as nice guys, but he's so good

1100
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:04.320
at playing a villain. Well,
I think it's kind of like you you're

1101
01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:10.159
expecting Robert Patrick to have a secret. Yeah, and Perey is much more

1102
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:13.039
of a blank slate. Yeah.
You know, we were just making jokes

1103
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:16.199
about Scars Guard. Yeah, how
he really has a look that makes it

1104
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:18.840
hard to give him Like he's not
going to be a romantic lead. I'm

1105
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:21.800
sorry, he just does not.
He could play Thor in this Scars Guard.

1106
01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:25.960
Jesus David, that's mean. I'm
trying to be nice for once.

1107
01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:29.440
I was just joking. No,
he means it. He means it.

1108
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:32.400
Everybody just makes me think of BoJack
Horseman when Wallace Seawan plays BoJack in the

1109
01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:38.679
BoJack Story. He just has the
giant jack. But no, but I

1110
01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:41.760
think Michael Prey was really the best
actor for the job. He was And

1111
01:07:41.800 --> 01:07:44.679
I think going back to Robert Patrick
real quick, just to get off topic

1112
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:47.320
real quick, Enrique and I several
years ago went down a rabbit hole with

1113
01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:50.920
Robert Patrick of his nineties lesser known
movies. And there is there There are

1114
01:07:50.960 --> 01:07:54.119
two that I want to mention real
quick before we get out of here.

1115
01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:59.480
One is Rogue Force is a movie
that he did with Michael Rooker where Robert

1116
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:03.039
Patrick plays a rogue swat team that
is basically going after criminals that get out

1117
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:06.440
of the justice system, and Rooker
is one of the detectives that's hired to

1118
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:12.239
investigate the case. Super good thriller, super dark yea though, the other

1119
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:15.399
one, which if you're an action
junkie you need to see Zero Tolerance.

1120
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:19.680
Yes, Zero Tolerance is the story
of Robert Patrick who's a cop if I

1121
01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:25.279
remember correctly, and something happens to
where one of his old cronies gets released

1122
01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:28.920
and goes after his family and basically
murders the family, and that's when he

1123
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:31.079
decides to take revenge go off the
Force. And you have not seen a

1124
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:36.359
Bonker's action film until you've seen Zero
Tolerance. Is truly a sight to behold

1125
01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:42.000
the scene when he's going down sutset
strip and just has the shotguns and just

1126
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.359
cars are blowing up around him for
no reason. Pure cinema, Pure cinema.

1127
01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:48.479
So yeah, pure cinema. Make
sure you check out Robertatrick's ninety films.

1128
01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:51.159
You will not be disappointed. Wrapping
us up, Red felt the movie

1129
01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:54.720
should open with a bang, that's
why the opening is so heavy with the

1130
01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:57.520
sex and the gore. Well,
and the original one was even more so,

1131
01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:00.920
even more so. Yeah. Hoping
to avoid a rep earlier issues,

1132
01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:05.359
Eric Redd resorted to psychological trips during
filming on the final fight sequence, forcing

1133
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:09.840
Hemingway to do take after take,
yelling for her to play it bigger until

1134
01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:13.159
she was absolutely exhausted and she hated
my guts, as he says, getting

1135
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.319
so angry at me personally that tears
and rage finally came out and we got

1136
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:21.159
it on camera. Eric Red's kind
of notorious for being fucking nuts. I

1137
01:09:21.239 --> 01:09:25.319
mean that's like just I mean,
directors do that. I think that,

1138
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:29.399
you know, you can only do
that with an actor that understands. Yeah,

1139
01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:31.920
I mean the downside of that we
saw with the Shelley Devall. Unfortunately

1140
01:09:31.960 --> 01:09:35.439
in the shining with Couprick, well, Kubrick was a complete monster. Yeah,

1141
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:40.479
So, I mean he really did
not care about anything other than what

1142
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:43.439
he wanted on film. You've seen
the behind the scenes footage, right,

1143
01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:45.720
Yeah, that's terrific. God no, no, I can't imagine Eric Redd

1144
01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.159
was even a fifth Yeah of Couprick, that's yeah, Yeah, no way

1145
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:54.760
Morgan Creek opened the film after Halloween
spent almost nothing on marketing, so Red

1146
01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:57.920
was not surprised when it failed to
find an audience in theaters, but he's

1147
01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:00.960
happy that a fan base has grown
around it in the year. And finally,

1148
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:03.680
two different stunt women were used that
for the stand ins of Marjorie during

1149
01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:06.960
the opening werewolf attack. Both stunt
girls were new. The first was attached

1150
01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:10.920
to a ratchet device designed to yankor
from the ten and give the impression of

1151
01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:13.800
real force and power. The second
stunt performer was held a loft in a

1152
01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:17.479
hardest device to simulate being held by
a werewolf. I love any time you

1153
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:20.479
get to simulate being held by a
were wolf. I mean it's so romantic.

1154
01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:25.760
Oh. So, as we like
to wrap up every show, we

1155
01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:29.359
like to offer a couple of recommendations. You didn't even give the We didn't

1156
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:33.039
give a rating. My apologies the
rate. Almost every week you forget the

1157
01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:36.399
rating, which is your idea?
Well, I know, but also at

1158
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:39.479
the same time I get excited,
So can you blame me? What are

1159
01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:42.239
your final thoughts on bad moves?
You want me to give mine? Go?

1160
01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:45.960
Well, I think that it is
Uh, I'm gonna give it.

1161
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:46.800
I'm gonna call it a rent it. That's what I called it, but

1162
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:50.279
I was close to giving it a
stream it. Okay, But I think

1163
01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:54.560
if you love horror movies, if
you like if you've ever liked a werewolf

1164
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:58.279
movie, yeah, you're going to
dig this one. But I will say

1165
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:02.000
side note, if you're a massive
and I mean massive dog lover, yeah,

1166
01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:05.399
then it's an own it. Yeah, because this is one of the

1167
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:11.319
few horror movies that is really literally
about the bond of family with a dog.

1168
01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:15.520
Absolutely. So if you love dogs
like immensely, and many people do.

1169
01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:18.319
I love dogs quite a bit,
then I think it makes the movie

1170
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:21.840
immensely more valuable. I agree rent
it for me as well. I think

1171
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:26.239
it's an underrated and underseen gem,
not just for werewolf movies, but horror

1172
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:29.600
in general. I think you have
a very strong cast here, even if

1173
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:31.520
it's a simple cast and a great
dog actor. That makes the finale even

1174
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:34.520
more intense and satisfying. Plus the
opening of the film that you just won't

1175
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:39.560
forget. Yeah, I would agree. So recommendations, I'm gonna go with

1176
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:43.479
late phases Night of the Wolf from
twenty fourteen, when a deadly beast attack

1177
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:45.319
from a forest. It is up
to a grizzled veteran to uncover what the

1178
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:50.560
residents of a secluded retirement community or
hiding. Late Phases was a was on

1179
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:55.399
streaming for like, I think,
like several years when it first got released

1180
01:11:55.399 --> 01:11:59.359
in the early twenty tens. You
recommended it to me. Yeah, I

1181
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:02.640
know, I love that movie.
I watched it and was just completely blown

1182
01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:05.840
away. Like it. And again
another one that no really nobody really talks

1183
01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:09.680
about. I mean, I feel
like it's gotten some of its due.

1184
01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:13.319
I mean it was part of the
Larry Fesden world. Yeah, it had

1185
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:15.479
really strong distribution when it came out. I think what I love about Late

1186
01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:19.000
Phases too is that it's just it's
both a slow burn but also you're never

1187
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:23.920
bored. No, no, well
it's a very intense movie. Yeah.

1188
01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:27.279
And second recommendation, I'm gonna give
Dark Knight of the Scarecrow from nineteen eighty

1189
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:30.239
one. In a small southern town
for the Gilanies wrongfully execute a mentally challenged

1190
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:33.479
man, but after the court sets
them free, mysterious accidents begin to kill

1191
01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:39.199
them off one by one. Well, I do love Dark Knight of the

1192
01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:42.800
Scarecrow. Odd choice. I was
going for more of like a small town

1193
01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:47.000
feel and also mysterious deaths. Okay, okay, yeah, well my res

1194
01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:50.920
are simple. Silver Bullet is number
one. Absolutely. That way, you

1195
01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:55.720
get all the werewolf fun and you
get even more of the silly kind of

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nostalgia era stuff. And then my
second recommendation is Wolf Wolf good with with

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Nicholson because that movie's funny, fun
and scary and scary. Yeah and again,

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and that one has the big fat
nineties field well, and you also

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have Jack Nicholson marking his territory by
pissing on James Spader while they're at I

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love that movie. That movie is
so good. So those are my Rex,

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those are your Rex. Awesome.
That is that. That is basically

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what we've got for this week.
Do you want to talk about next week?

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Jeez, you're just you're so bad
at transitions. It's fine, I'll

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fix it in post post. Uh
you. How about I'll let you edit

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the shows for whatever you can do
that you got hands? H Well,

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what do we what do we got
coming? Next week? We are gonna

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be going to the nineties once again
with Wayne's World, and that means I'll

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finally give a story. The story
I never gave it on the air.

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No, you did not. You
said you would save it for that episode.

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So I'll give the story about how
Dayton, Ohio could potentially be directly

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related to the creation of Wayne's World. I cannot wait to hear that.

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So I gave you a little taste
of it. Yeah. Yeah, but

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it's that's like a legit urban legend
that I heard firsthand. I didn't hear

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it from like five other people.
I heard it like directly from people who

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are positive it happened. So but
no, Wayne's World, that'll be a

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super fun one. Yeah. No, I'm looking forward to that. I'm

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still recovering from my movie shoot experience. It's it's all good. So but

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uh but no, uh, make
sure you guys, we really appreciate the

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emails we've been getting, which,
by the way, actually i'll have it

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right here. We got an email
from our buddy. Uh, let's see

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Derek Derek Smith, my buddy Derek, who we've been friends for a while.

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But he seems to really be digging
to you, even movie. He

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commented on the Little Giants episode.
He's the one who made the fun thing

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meme. Yeah, it doesn't still
doesn't have his yellow bell. Yeah,

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thanks for that, that's the stuff. But he also wrote in after they

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said also Parenthood is one of my
all time favorites. Definitely, hope y'all

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check it out, if not for
the podcast, just for Shiggles. Incredible

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writing and one of the best ensemble
casts. I think we could probably pick

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that. It's safe to say that's
coming to the show because the fact that

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you haven't seen it. This is
another one that I can show you.

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But also you love Steve Martin,
so I do this. This is Steve

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Martin and a hugely stacked cast.
Oh so multiple huge bress Rick mirandas is

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back. I love it. So
okay, well, no, we will

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have to put that on the dock
in the future. And if you guys

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want to email us, you can
send us an email at do you even

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movie pod at gmail dot com,
or you can contact us through dooevenmovie dot

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com. Also want to mention liking
the video if you're watching this on YouTube

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helps immensely. Leaving a comment helps
even more. Absolutely we read everything you

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guys in of course, and if
you're listening to this as a podcast,

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please, sincerely, I beg of
you leave us a rating. On Apple

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Podcasts or Spotify because it helps helps
massively. Yes, but that's that's just

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about all I've got. What about
you? All right? You can find

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us over at Instagram and TikTok at
do Even Movie Pod. You can also

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find us on x and Facebook at
do You Even Movie Podcast and make sure

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you check us out. We've got
a lot of fun clips on TikTok and

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also if you have any suggestions,
comments, or you know, just want

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to tell us something in general,
we, like Hendrick said, re read

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all that stuff, so thankes.
Sure, let us drop us a line.

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Yeah, get ahold of us and
do you Even movie Pod at gmail

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dot com. So well, I
guess that is it for this. So

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everybody, take good care of your
doggies. Yes, and don't trust your

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brother. No, don't trust your
brother. That's the moral of the story.

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That'll do it. So we'll see
you all next Tuesday. Next Tuesday, a