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Cutting Deep into Horror | The Cell (2000): Ending Explained & Serial Killer Nightmares
The Cell (2000) sends Jennifer Lopez into a serial killer's mind while his next victim fights to survive. Henrique Couto and Rachael Redolfi unpack Tarsem Singh's surreal psychological horror, Vincent D'Onofrio's nightmare imagery and the ending's troubling questions about mercy and control. Explore water symbolism, childhood trauma and seven ways to interpret the title. Is Catherine a savior—or another kind of captor? A spoiler-filled horror movie review for your Halloween watchlist.
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All right, and right through here, you'll see the chocolate fountain. Although,
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unlike most chocolate fountains, the fountain is made of chocolate,
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and it just, well, it uses regular water. It's a
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fountain made of chocolate, not a fountain that dispenses chocolate.
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Okay, so, yeah, that's pretty impressive.
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I would say so.
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It's really big.
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Well, yes, you see, when you're inside the mind of
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a murderer... Space doesn't really have an issue, per se.
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Can we back up?
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Sure, you wanted to get a better look at the fountain?
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No, no, no, to what you just said. Where are we?
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Inside the mind of a murderer. Do you not remember
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the whole rundown where we were laying on those floating
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table thingies?
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Oh, I thought that was a dream.
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No, this would be more close to a dream, actually.
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Oh, God, what's that over there?
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Oh, that is... Yeah, that is a very large box
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of Captain Crunch. Incredibly large.
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I know, I mean, like, right beside it.
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The toilet?
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The thing with the oozing and the blood and the viscera.
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You know, this type of psychology is a little bit
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of a soft science, but I'm starting to think that
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maybe you're seeing kind of what you want to see. Because...
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I see the box of Captain Crunch. I see the toilet,
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but it's not even a functional toilet. It's a Banksy.
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It has painting on it and it's gold. I don't
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know what you're looking for.
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Yeah, those are both right there. But then like right
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in front of them is like a big, is it
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a body or?
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It is the body of work of a famous poet.
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Oh man, Francisco. I can never remember his name. I apologize.
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I should have prepared better. I'm supposed to show you around.
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If you want to see all the violence and stuff,
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it's right through that door in the front of the
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house over there. It's very well appointed. It even says,
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welcome to hack.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Okay. No, I think I want to stay here with
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the giant.
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Fountain that is chocolate.
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Obviously, you wanted to see the hell that is inside
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of his mind. So right through this door. Keep going.
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Don't trip on your shoelaces. He should have wore Velcro.
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They should have told you that before you entered.
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This podcast is about why horror scares us. What deep, dark, secret,
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scary cinema shines a light on. The discussions are frank
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and involve conversations about abuse, trauma, and mental health. There
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are also spoilers, so keep that in mind too. Now,
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sharpen your machetes and straight razors, because this is Cutting
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Deep Into Horror.
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Hello, my spookies, and welcome back to Cutting Deep into Horror.
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I am your host, Enrique Couto, of course, here with
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my co-host, Rachel Rodolphe. Rachel, how are you?
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I'm doing good.
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Good.
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Yeah.
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Is it because you didn't turn 40?
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That's part of it.
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I turned 40 like a week ago or whatever, two
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weeks ago when this airs.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, of course, immediately I need readers.
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Yeah, it was like 10 days later.
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No, it was literally seven days later. Oh, it was
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literally seven days later. My birthday was Thursday and then
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it was the next Thursday. I'm like, I'm not going
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to put off getting my eye exam again because I'm
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already blind as a bat anyway. But yeah, guy didn't
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even warn me. Just hands me the prescription, says a
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few things about contact lenses and then it's like, see ya.
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And then I go home and I'm like putting it
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in my prescription to order some glasses. And I'm like,
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what is this add one thing? Per eye? Oh, no. Wait,
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what is multifocal? Like bifocals? And then ChatGPT explained that
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I am indeed old. So, you know, just a good
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punch in the lungs, you know, after feeling pretty all
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right otherwise.
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Well, you got to keep up the theme, you know.
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Well, oh, thanks. The theme of entropy?
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Yeah.
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Is that what you're going to say? Gotcha. No, yeah,
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it was, you know, an amusingly painful thing. But speaking
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of amusingly painful, our film tonight is The Cell from 2000.
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And it's a film that I feel like I wouldn't
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call it underrated. I feel like anybody who watched The
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Cell is a fan of it. Yeah, that's that's my
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my understanding. The last time I saw before we watched
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it for the show, the last time I saw the
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cell was I was randomly at the cigar lounge and
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it was just on the TV. This was early days
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of the cigar lounge when they had one big TV
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in the one area. And then the loungy area has
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a bunch of TVs. But they were just watching the cell.
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I was like, oh, man, is this the cell? And
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they were like, yeah. I was like, oh, well, then
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I'm going to watch the last half of the cell.
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This is sad. But it is very much a product
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of its time, but in a charming way. I mean,
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in part, just the cast alone. I mean, because it
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stars Jennifer Lopez in one of her most serious roles,
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because she's dealing with a serial killer. Then you got
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Vince Vaughn, who is kind of at the height of
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his Vince Vaughn-ness as well. Yeah. I like Vince Vaughn.
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I don't know about you, but I always liked him.
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And then we have, speaking of at their most... Lopez
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and Vaughn. But then at their least, what he's like
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at all is Vincent D'Onofrio, who is like a completely
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different person than he's been in nearly any other movie.
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He's completely transformed into this psycho and he's played a
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lot of scary, intense people before, but he's really on
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another plane.
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Oh yeah.
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On this one. You probably don't even know what you
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know him from. I, I have to admit that I don't.
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I don't know what I know him from.
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He was Edgar the Bug in Men in Black.
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That is it.
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Yep.
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That's the big one. I mean, he was Leonard Gomer
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Pyle Lawrence in Full Metal Jacket, which was what made
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him famous in 87 because he played the most tragic
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character in Full Metal Jacket. But he's an incredible actor.
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He's been in so many films. I mean, he was
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in Jurassic World. Uh, gosh, uh, he's done a lot
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of films, um, massive, massive acting career. So, but, uh,
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in this film, he, you barely even recognize him. He's
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so lost in the character of a psycho sexual serial
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killer who is extremely layered before you even get into
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his brain. Um, for those who don't know, the cell
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is basically a horror film about a serial killer who,
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Who kills women in very, very brutal ways, but he
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does it in a weird contained way. He likes to
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lock them in a cell. And I know what you're thinking. Oh,
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so that's the cell. There are a lot of cells. Yeah.
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That's one of my favorite things about the movie is
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that the cell is many things. Figurative, literal, figurative again.
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It keeps jumping around. So he ends up in a coma.
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During apprehension, it turns out he had some kind of
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very rare ailment that's triggered by water, I think it was.
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And so he goes into a coma. They find him
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and he was like, I think he would have drowned
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in the bathtub if they hadn't found him right when
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they did. But because of his weird separation from killing,
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the way he kills is he sets up an automated
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thing that drowns these women in a tank and he
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films it while he's not there. And then he comes back.
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He has this weird separation so that it's almost like
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he didn't do it, except that he absolutely did. But
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because of that, they have maybe 48 hours to figure
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out where the hell this woman is and save her
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life before she dies. So they go to Jennifer Lopez's character,
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who is an experimental neurologist, psychiatrist person who has been
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experimenting with these methods of going inside of minds of
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coma patients. Right. But the problem is. That the minds
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they've been going into are like a little boy who's
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in a coma, not, not a serial killer, let alone
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a grownup. That was, I think they even mentioned that. Like,
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it's not even just that he's a serial killer. He's
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also an adult, which means he's just going to be
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far more intricate mentally. Yeah. Cause when, when they see
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at the beginning, we see her going into this little
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boy's consciousness.
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Yeah.
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It's relatively simple because he's a little boy.
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Yeah.
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And she's just trying to, you know, communicate with him.
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I think that they theorize that maybe it's a way
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to bring them out of the coma eventually. Maybe they
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could get there. Right. Eventually. That it's possible.
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Yeah, because I believe what it is, and they kind
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of go into it as the movie progresses, but the
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idea is that the therapist will go into the child's
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mind first, and then once they build a rapport, then
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eventually they can bring the child into the therapist's therapist's
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mind and then help them like break out.
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I think that was the reveal at the end of
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the movie was that they realized it was better to
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do that yeah it was better to bring the child
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or to bring the person into the therapist's mind than
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to go into their mind which makes sense because uh
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one of the elements of this film that i've always
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felt was really important um and is kind of complicated
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is uh the idea of therapy being a kind of
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psychological um like not violation but like a like a Yeah.
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Like the idea that what therapists do is they go
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into your brain and they rearrange the furniture. And how
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much can you even consent to that? And that is
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a nuanced take because obviously therapy works for millions of people.
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And there are some people who are going to have
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bad experiences with therapists, whether it's because the therapist was
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a bad fit or the therapist was legitimately bad. Usually
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the latter is not common. Yeah. It's more the former.
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It's just like, yeah, we didn't mesh very well. But this,
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I feel like, really kind of dives into the idea
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of what it's like when a therapist kind of goes
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into your mind metaphorically and starts digging things up. Yes.
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And how it's like, you don't have permission for that.
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So I almost felt like the concept that it might
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be more effective to go into the therapist's mind might
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have been a suggestion that less invasive methods are better
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or something. But I'm still kind of thinking about it.
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It's a complex movie and it's... it's famous for being
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extremely surreal.
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Yeah.
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Obviously once they go into their minds, it gets very,
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very out there. Um, and I thought I had it up.
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I was going to say where you can watch it. Uh,
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let's see. Cell phone 2000. So if you want to
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watch the cell before we really spoil it all, um,
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it is available. Yeah. It's basically just available to rent
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or buy digitally. So, uh, or on like, you know,
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physical media, if you're, if you're freaky like that, Unlike
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Amazon Prime, YouTube, Google Play, Apple TV, and Fandango. And
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I will say, if you've never seen this film, it's
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totally worth a rental fee to not only see a
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really interesting movie that is scary and upsetting and intense,
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but also to really see one of the big markers
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of 2000s horror. Because after Scream comes out in the
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late 90s, every movie, nearly every movie changed. And a
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lot of people, well, it's incredible because it's a testament
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to Wes Craven. It's a testament to the work they
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were doing. It's a testament to the way the audiences
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felt about movies at the time. Some people feel like
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it kind of derailed an interesting era of horror movies.
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Because if you watch pre-96 horror, it's not at all
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what came after it. It's not a lot of meta...
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horror it's not a lot of self-referential horror self-aware horror
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i mean there's a little bit yeah but there's a
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lot more they were experimenting with monsters a lot uh
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you know there was deep rising mimic i think that
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came out that early um and it didn't derail them
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wholly it's just that a lot of them got overlooked
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entirely because what became hot was this meta slasher cast
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the you know all the cast of characters are young
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people from like dawson's creek basically and which I mean,
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literally spawned. I know what you did last summer and
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more screen movies as well. And then more, I know
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