Aug. 21, 2026

Cutting Deep into Horror | Tonight She Comes (2016): Blood Rituals & Body Horror

Cutting Deep into Horror | Tonight She Comes (2016): Blood Rituals & Body Horror
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Cutting Deep Into Horror

Key Takeaways

  • Tonight She Comes (2016) is an outrageously bloody supernatural slasher and occult body horror film that transforms a classic cabin-in-the-woods setup into a bizarre supernatural nightmare.
  • Hosts Henrique Couto and Rachael Redolfi originally discovered the indie film during a unique theatrical screening series called Movies at the Asylum.
  • The movie subverts typical slasher tropes by featuring deliberately incompetent, self-aware characters and blurring the boundaries between traditional protagonists and antagonists, particularly through the character Felicity.
  • The narrative is packed with wild supernatural elements, including glowing blood runes, pentagrams, virgin and menstrual blood rituals, and a shockingly gruesome occult rebirth ending.
  • Low-budget filmmaking ingenuity is on full display, using clever dialogue-heavy scenes and practical effects to maximize suspense on an independent budget.
Tonight She Comes (2016) is a blood-soaked supernatural slasher for horror fans building their Halloween watchlists—a cabin-in-the-woods nightmare that mutates into occult body horror, splatter comedy, and resurrection horror. On this episode of Cutting Deep into Horror, hosts Henrique Couto and Rachael Redolfi revisit the outrageous independent horror film that has stayed with them for a decade and explain why its strangest choices are far more deliberate than they first appear.

Henrique and Rachael trace the story from its apparently unstoppable, blood-covered killer and intentionally foolish slasher characters to a rural family protecting its cabin with glowing blood runes. The mystery soon explodes into an occult resurrection ritual involving virgins, non-virgins, menstrual blood, a pentagram, and one revolting chalice. They also revisit discovering the movie through the Movies at the Asylum theatrical series, discuss The Asylum, Sharknado, and low-budget B-movie culture, and break down the film’s sleeping-bag homage to Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood.

As Weekly Spooky ramps up toward Halloween season, the conversation digs into the movie’s grotesque humor, gory special effects, supernatural rules, and deliberately blurred ideas of protagonist and antagonist. Why does Felicity gradually become the closest thing the story has to a protagonist? How can a movie this absurd still follow a carefully constructed internal logic? And why does its spectacularly gruesome rebirth ending feel earned rather than random?

For listeners filling a spooky-season podcast queue with slashers, strange indie horror movies, occult rituals, and unforgettable body horror, Tonight She Comes is one nightmare that refuses to stay buried.

Inside this episode:
  • Discovering Tonight She Comes during the Movies at the Asylum theatrical series
  • The supernatural slasher and cabin-in-the-woods setup
  • Deliberately foolish characters, horror clichés, and genre self-awareness
  • The Friday the 13th Part VII sleeping-bag kill homage
  • Blood runes, virgin blood, menstrual blood, and the resurrection ritual
  • Why Felicity becomes the closest thing the film has to a protagonist
  • Gory effects, occult body horror, and the unforgettable rebirth ending
Full spoilers throughout.

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Frequently Asked Questions

What is Tonight She Comes (2016) about?

Tonight She Comes is an independent supernatural slasher and body horror film about a naked, blood-soaked woman who terrorizes a group of foolish characters at a remote cabin, leading into a bizarre occult resurrection ritual.

Where can I watch Tonight She Comes?

Tonight She Comes is available to rent on major digital platforms like Amazon Prime Video, Apple TV, and Google Play, and can be streamed for free with ads on Fandango at home.

Who directed Tonight She Comes?

The film was directed by Matt Stuarts, who primarily worked in camera and electrical departments on other feature films before directing this project.

What is the connection between Tonight She Comes and The Asylum?

Hosts Henrique Couto and Rachael Redolfi first encountered the film during a special theatrical screening series called Movies at the Asylum, highlighting the broader culture of low-budget B-movies and independent horror.

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What are you doing out here? Oh? I, well, this

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here's private property.

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I'm sorry. I just got lost and how do I

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get back to the road? What road? The road? You know,

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like there was a road a way back, and like

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I got lost.

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You're talking about Ipsilanty Road. Yeah, Ipsilanti Roads, twenty five

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miles from here. Oh oh, I'm starting to think you're lying.

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reconsider your story one more time before we have to

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take it to the judge.

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Which judge fred out in the middle of nowhere.

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The judge is what I call my shotgun. Oh god,

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that's also what I call the local magistrate. That's really confusing.

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His name is Anthony judge. Wow, why are you laughing?

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We're trying to figure out. I'm trying to figure out

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why you're on my property?

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Ah? What's that over there?

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A murderous naked woman?

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Why I she just like showed up. You're not concerned about.

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That, nah, because she doesn't think Ipsilanti Road is near here? Dummy, dummy, dummy.

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This podcast is about why horror scares us. What deep, dark,

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secret scary cinema shines a light on. The discussions are

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frank and involve conversations about abuse, trauma, and mental health.

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There are also spoilers, so keep that in mind too. Now,

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sharpen your machetes and straight razors, because this is cutting

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deep into horror.

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Hello, my spooky then, welcome back to Cutting Deep into Horror. I'm,

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of course, your host Enrique Kuto here with my co

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host Rachel Dulphy. Rachel, how are you.

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I'm doing good.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it stopped raining finally.

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So uh oh, I mean for a while. You slept

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through the huge storm last night?

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I was nodding off to sleep.

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did not stop started at about one o'clock. Oh yeah.

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I went to bed at two thirty and I was

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watching lightning going off all night while I was watching

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a movie. Like all I had was the I had

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the covering on the main window, but the bath or

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flashes constantly. I was very surprised by how aggressive that

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storm seemed to be. And then I got a text

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from my mother who's in Nashville, Indiana right now, at

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a cabin and they had no power from like three

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am until about noon today. Man, so it must have

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been real bad out there. Yeah but uh yeah, so no,

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you have no idea just how bad the storm got.

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of days.

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That's been a recurring trend.

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Well recurring strong. But it's been a minute since the

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big power outage. Yeah, that was a nightmare. But it's funny.

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I was working. I was doing my work today and

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I lost two days that one time because the power

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went out, and that was uh yeah, so that was

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about three weeks ago. So not ideal. I don't I

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don't enjoy it. I try. I looked into getting like

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a full house backup generator. Yeah, they're like they could

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be as much as five to ten thousand dollars. And

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the maintenance you have to maintain them, like they have

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to be turned on regularly to make sure they work.

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literally are connected to your house.

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major and one minor power outage. We lost like four

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how can I make this never happen again? And they

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just is not much of a way.

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like three days at one time.

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the Paris of Ohio. So yeah, I don't know. I

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am a little tired of the bad weather.

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Yeah.

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But speaking of things that make about it much sense

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as the weather, our film Tonight is one that baffled

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me the well, the first time we saw it, we

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weren't even seeking it out. We went to a screening

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where were the only people there.

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I'm pretty sure, Yeah, I'm pretty certain we were the

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only ones in that theater.

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Yeah. There was this thing called the I think it

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was called Asylum Night at the movies or Asylum Movie Night.

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Or something like, or Movies at the Asylum.

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That's Movies at the Asylum.

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That makes sense because it's a pun, but it was

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Movies at the Asylum, and it was from the company

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The Asylum, which became super famous for Sharknado. But they

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were a They've been a B movie studio since the

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early two thousands. They launched their company with the Stuart

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Gordon horror film King of the Ants, which I think

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is one of the finest films ever made. And I'm

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not trying to be cute. I mean, Stuart Gordon's made

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a lot of incredible movies. You know. I often joke that, like,

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you don't want the Stuart Gordon curse, which is that

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your first film is Reanimator.

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Oh man.

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something that like everybody thinks is a like excellent and

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maybe even a masterpiece, it can be tough.

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Yeah, it's like where do you go from there?

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Evil Dead was his first film, but it was very

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rough around the edges. It did have moments that maybe

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didn't feel polished. But Reanimator is just so beloved and

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so yeah, it's it's it's a great film. You know,

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you'd be like if Wes Craven started with a Nightmare

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on Elm Street, right, it'd be like, damn, dude, where

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do you go from here? It's bad enough having ever

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made a movie that good and then having to try

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to live up to it again and again and again.

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really well known for whatever what we're called mockbusters, and

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they they were films that were similar in title and

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concept to Hollywood film films of the era. They did

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things like when rob Zombies, Halloween or Halloween two one

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of those came out. They did Halloween Night. I think

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is transmorphers that came out during Transformers.

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I Am Omega, I.

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Am Omega Yeah, which came out around the same time

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as the Omega Man. I Am Legend, I Am Legend right, yeah,

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which was also which was based on I Am Legend.

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based on the book I Am Legend, which Omega Man

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the movie is also based on.

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Exactly.

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Sorry, that's that's that's the way to put it, Yeah,

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it just gets it gets confusing for sure, I mean.

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And then it was also the same you know, Last

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Man on Earth was based on that too, on that

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same book by Mathieson. But yeah, so yeah, those were

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coming with some of the most notorious ones. They also did,

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like Paranormal Entity, which I showed you, which was a

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knock off of paramal activity.

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It really was.

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It was almost scarier in some way. In some ways

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it was much scareder than paranormal Activity because I had teeth.

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It was much more aggressive. That's one that I think

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people should really give a watch is Paranormal Entity. And

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I've I've talked to people about it before, horror fans

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who will like nod and nod, and then they say

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something and then I realized they start talking about their opinions,

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and I realized, oh my god, this asshole thought that

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I misspoke paranormal activity when I'm talking about a totally

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different film. And then they don't have the The reason

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I'm calling an asshole is they don't have the courtesy

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to just politely you mean activity. They don't have the

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kindness because in their horror movie knowledge, they think there's

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only one movie that starts with paranormal Come on, Plus,

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why would I want to rave about even ten years ago?

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Why would I want to rave about paranormal activity? To

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a random other horror fan, everybody saw it, it was

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a big deal, but I was bringing it up like,

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oh man, but have you seen paranormal entity? Like what they?

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Oh man, but have you seen you know, Jurassic Park?

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Like come on? But no. So that's all to say.

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The asylum that was their big thing. But then they

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got a pretty harsh cease and desist from I believe

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it was Universal Studios, and that ended the era of

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the mockbuster almost wholly. Yeah, it just did. And some

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of those mockbusters were really fun because a lot of

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times they would hand them to a director and be like,

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as long as you do it for this cheap, And

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their budgets weren't insanely low. They were half a mill

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to a million million and a half for the most part.

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There were some that were really really cheap. A lot

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of their found footage movies were super cheap, and also

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their sex comedies. They actually did a ton of really

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hilarious sex comedies in the early two thousands that I

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thought were really funny. But you know, anyway, so the

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Asylum is making all these mockbusters, then they lose that market.

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They were always and this is something I always appreciate

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about them, they were always diversified. Like as I just mentioned,

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they had sex comedies they were putting out, and those

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were those would go to Blockbuster and Hollywood Video back

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in the day, but they would also go to Showtime

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and Cinemax sometimes and sometimes HBO. You never know. But

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they'd make them for like one hundred grand apiece, which

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in the grand scheme of movie making, especially back then,

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that was extremely cheap because cameras were so expensive, and

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they're making them in Los Angeles. So they would make those.

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toe into the sci fi original movies, which were at

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the time becoming giant sci fi original movies, like you know,

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like Mega Python and Python Versus Alligator. I mean, some

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of these might not be the actual titles, but there

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were so many of them. Pirana Konda, which I loved,

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Parana Conda, there were so many of them, and they

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started making some of them as well, like two headed

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Shark Attack things like that. But then they hit the

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stratosphere with Sharknado, not literally because they didn't go into

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space until part three, but I wish I was joking, joke.

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They're super fun. So and then that was when they

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started to really have this other life as the big

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crazy movie people. But at the same time, so at

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the same time they were making all the mockbusters, they

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were also making sexy comedies and some more traditional horror films.

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poster and a title, not like not aping on something

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else right or knocking something off in a way that's

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relatively shameless. That was like their big their their bread

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and butter was being diversified. So when Sharknado happened, they

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never stopped making those sexy comedies, and they never stopped

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making the kind of traditional horror films either. They just

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had much lower budgets and they'd put them out just

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the same. And then they actually advanced in oh in

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twenty fifteen, sixteen seventeen, somewhere in the neighborhood they started

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they started making lifetime movies occasionally and making made for

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TV movies for mostly lifetime. I think they did maybe

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a Hallmark movie or two too. So well, I mean

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they're smart, they know how to stay alive in the business.

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And that was a very long way to say. Our

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film Tonight, Tonight is Tonight. She comes from twenty and sixteen,

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and it is a whack a Do movie. And you know,

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I don't quote Mojo Nixon lightly, so why do not

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when I say a whacka do movie. It came out

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in twenty sixteen. It's available to rent anywhere you rent

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movies like Amazon, Prime Video, Apple TV, Google, And if

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you want to watch it for free, it's streaming free

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with ads on Fandango at home. And we're gonna take

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a quick break and then we'll dive in more to

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how we saw this film and why we're even talking

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about it, because this thing is so far out I

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won't believe it right after this. So Tonight She comes

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directed by a guy named Matt Stewarts, who, as far

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as I could tell, has not directed another feature.

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It looks like he mostly worked in camera and electric

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is that it mostly as an AC and a camera

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opay on other movies, But it doesn't look like he's

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had a ton of directing work, at least not in features.

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It says Wake not the Dead is a film he's

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filming right now, but that could be not true. There's

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a movie called Human on IMDb. It says it's feature length,

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but there's no way to watch it. Oh so, I

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mean it could exist, but it could not be done

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or it could not be released or whatever. But this

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film definitely he impressed me with it. Yeah, it had

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a lot of interesting stuff going on beyond the bizarreness

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even and we saw this film as we were mentioning it.

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Movies at the Asylum and which was just at our

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local cinemak. They had I think it was eight weeks

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of Asylum.

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Movies, yeah, because it was like one summer.

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Yeah yeah, it was like every week. There was one

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playing on Thursday night, yeah, and it was one night only,

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and they opened by doing like a Sharknado, one of

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the newer Sharknado movies was like the start and there

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were a lot of people there, and some of them

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had a decent amount of people, like they did this one,

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that one zombie movie.

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The Zombies on a Yacht or whatever, the one.

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That was like British, Yeah, that was it wasn't very good. No,

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I remember like keeping hoping and then like towards the end,

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I was like, this isn't very good. But there were

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a lot of people there for that one, so that

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not all of them were dead empty. But that's the

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thing is they would have like Sharknado four or whatever

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and then zoom bees.

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I saw zombies. That one was fucking hilarious.

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But then but then you'd also get Tonight She Comes

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or Bad Girl.

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Bad Girl was so good.

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Bad Girl was super good. And that was Samara Weaving's

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first movie feature film to be released in America. She

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was like four years later going to be one of

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the biggest names in movies. Yeah, and she was in

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some little B movie from Australia. And that one was

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interesting because, uh, I noticed because I would look up

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some of the movies afterward, and it seemed like Asylum

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was actually having trouble filling the slots because at least

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one or two of the movies never got released by

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Asylum on home video, so they must have licensed them

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just for a theatrical screening for whatever reason. But that's

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not necessarily that important or interesting, but it's something I

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thought about.

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Its interesting.

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That's nice of you to lie. It's always appreciated when

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people lie. But so this movie, it's a what is it.

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About, you know, well, how to be gross?

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That's not fair. I mean, it's it's a gross movie,

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but like it's I mean, the plot is basically like

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it's set up like a slasher movie, but this like

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unstoppable killing thing is a naked woman covered in blood

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coming after these increasingly fascinatingly weird and stupid characters.

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Yeah, but incredibly incompetent.

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Well, but it's definitely on purpose. Yeah, we'll get into

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that more. It's not that this movie was written lazily

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at all. Actually, I think it was actually pretty a

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pretty clever movie. Yeah. Well, and when you look at

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the economics of this film, it's very clever. As wacky

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and crazy as this movie is, a huge portion of

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it is them in the living room talking. Yeah, And

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that's kind of like something I try to point out

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to people, Like the first Shark Nato movie. A large

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amount of that movie is them sitting in a car

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while the rain is coming down and talking to each other,

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which is smart, I mean, because it's relatively easy thing

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to do.

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Mm hm.

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So but yeah, so, I mean that's basically as like

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they have to figure out how to stop this thing

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that may or may not be a demonic entity. And

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as the story progresses, it it's very good at answering

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questions by making you ask immensely more questions. Yes, so,

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were you gargling with glass before the show?

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Yeah? Just for fun?

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I get it, I get it. But no, police, we're saying.

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Well, I was gonna say, like, the more I think

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about it, the more I guess I could say like

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the point of the movie is kind of like either

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a mirror or a love letter to just the horror

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genre in general, but like exploitation and grindhouse movies in particular.

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Yeah, how so, Well, just.

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Like the whole tone of the film, the self awareness

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of it, the fact that it does have so many

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nods to other exploitation films or just horror films in general.

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I'm with you on the horror, but I never really

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picked up on it referencing exploitation movies very much.

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Maybe it doesn't, and maybe I'm just like generalizing more

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than I should.

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I don't know. Well, I mean, do you have an example.

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I wasn't trying to put you no, just legitally, when

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you said, I was waiting for you to say one

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so I could I could understand where you're coming from.

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Yeah, that's that's why I'm saying, like maybe it maybe

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I'm just generalizing horror and grindhouse together too much.

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Well, but but you were also saying exploitation.

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Movies or exploitation is what I meant, exploitation and horror

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together too much, okay, because I was thinking like, as

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far as exploitation I can think about, so, like, uh,

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cannibal Holocaust is that? Would you consider that?

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Yeah? I think I think so, Yeah, probably, I mean

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usually exploitation movies aren't horror movies, but I suppose yeah,

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that would probably be a exploitation movie.

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Yeah. So like there's some similarity in tonality, but not

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enough to say like, yeah that it's totally drawing from

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exploit exploitation.

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Okay, yeah, because I mean I thought that it was

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just drawing from slasher movies. It was just kind of

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having fun with them. M M. It was just kind

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of being like, hey, you know how slasher movies will

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hand you some dumb characters, Well, these are really dumb,

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Like they're going to frustrate you with how dumb they are. Yeah,

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and I but it works pretty well because there's an odd,

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earnest element to the movie that I think works really well. Yeah,

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so that's that's why it kind of holds up. But

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I mean, we sat down to watch this in the

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theater and we had zero clue what it was at all.

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I mean, the title was Tonight she Comes and there's

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like a creepy looking woman on the poster. That's all

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we knew, yeah, at all. And every step it gets

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more wild and out there and way way way out.

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So I remember when we were watching it, I was

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kind of on the fence about how I felt about it,

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because the problem with things being really wacky and out

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there is it can let you be lazy. That's a

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big complaint I have with a lot of like horror

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comedy type stuff, is that is that it's like, oh, well,

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if you're winking, oh it's supposed to be bad, it's

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like cool, then you don't have to try to be good.

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But it became very clear the longer I watched the

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movie the intense amount of effort that went into all

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of the weird choices that were in the movie. They

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were all thought out very much to make some degree

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of sense, and the ending is what made me love it.

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If it hadn't had that ending, I probably would have

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thought it was okay, I probably forgot about it, but

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that ending was so far out there.

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Oh yeah, that's well, that's the thing, like when I

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think of the movie, I always think of the ending first. Yeah,

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of course, and then and then the rest of the

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movie kind of like comes back to me. Oh yeah,

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but it's it's got such a special place in my

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heart because I was so new to the world of

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horror films when we went to see it. Yeah, so

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it kind of, you know, it in a way set

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me up to have expectations of what the rest of

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my horror viewing career would be like, because it introduced

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me to the concepts in a very tongue in cheek

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kind of way.

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Yeah, yeah, I get that. Well, we're going to take

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a quick break and when we get back, we'll talk

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even more about tonight she comes and the very interesting

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choices at the beginning of the film right after this.

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So, since I had not seen very many horror films, yeah,

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when we first saw this, I went in especially blind,

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and so there were moments going back and rewatching it

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now where I could be like, oh wow, that's like

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a nod to you know, Friday the thirteenth, or oh wow,

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that's you know, that's kind of a nod to you know,

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other films that I've watched with you. But at the time,

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I was like, what is like why would someone be

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coming out of the lake or why would you kill

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someone with a with a sleeping bag, like wrapping them

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up in a sleeping bag. And I didn't realize like,

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oh no, that's because they're kind of like tipping their hat.

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I mean that's a straight homage. Yeah, I would say

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to John Carl b Clear's death scene, well he didn't

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he wasn't killed in it. He was the director of

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that film and the special effects artist that did Friday

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Thirteenth Part seven. Yeah, and the famous sleeping bag kill

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scene was notoriously cut for content. It was cut for

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the R rating, So it's kind of it became kind

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of legendary with horror fans that like, that scene would

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have been so much cooler if the NPAA hadn't ruined it.

446
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So but yeah, I mean there's definitely a good amount

447
00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:16.039
of homages in there, and that's kind of where with

448
00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:19.400
this movie, you do want to kind of make an

449
00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:26.160
open differentiation between homage and cliche. Okay, so at least

450
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.440
in my opinion, Yeah, because like you have homages, which

451
00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.960
would be like the Death with a Sleeping Bag or

452
00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:35.960
I'm not thinking of another homage off the top of

453
00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:41.160
my head immediately, but cliche would be more like a

454
00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:45.240
group of kids go camping in a cabin by the water.

455
00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:47.880
It's clear stuff is wrong, but they don't seem to

456
00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:51.079
care no matter how you know, bad things get They're

457
00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:54.200
just too busy being horny or whatever thing it might be.

458
00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:57.400
That's more the cliche than an homage, because I guess,

459
00:24:57.480 --> 00:24:59.559
I guess when it's an homage you can point generally

460
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:02.000
to one movie, Yeah, and when it's a cliche, you

461
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:06.200
could point to like a genre of films, ouvra of movies.

462
00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:08.640
I would agree that's a very good differentiator.

463
00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:12.160
And I think they play more with cliches than they

464
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:16.720
do with homages. I agree overall. I agree, But they

465
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.640
but it's thick with them, and it's and and it's

466
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:22.160
not done in a lazy way. I know I've said

467
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.920
that before, but it's worth saying again. They they don't

468
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:29.839
just cheap out everything you think is lazy ends up

469
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:32.119
being really really nuts.

470
00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:37.319
Yeah, there's there's kind of a payoff for most things

471
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:38.119
in this movie.

472
00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:40.599
Yeah, I mean they do play with the idea of

473
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:43.799
there being no payoff being a payoff sometimes, yeah, which

474
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:45.240
is one of the reasons I was kind of like,

475
00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:47.759
oh my god, this movie, like, you know, is it

476
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:51.160
just going to keep throwing curves? And yes, it throws

477
00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:54.079
every single ball it throws as a curveball. That's actually

478
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:56.440
kind of one of my favorite things about this film

479
00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:05.960
is it starts out being so painfully cliche and simplistic

480
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:11.240
and you know almost like yeah, yeah, yeah, trits an

481
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.000
a right word, I guess, jeez no, but but yeah

482
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:17.240
it comes up. It's like here's here's you know, two

483
00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:21.200
dudes who liked smoke weed and one has a male job.

484
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:23.640
You know, he delivers mail, but he doesn't have a

485
00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:26.599
mail truck yet because he's part time. And then you know,

486
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.799
here's these two hot girls. They they're gonna go to

487
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:30.559
her for their friend's cabin, even though they haven't heard

488
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:32.799
from their friend in a while, but they're gonna you know,

489
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:36.240
topless sunbathe and you're like, wow, I could follow this

490
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:39.519
without an act, without a brain or eyes. I could

491
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:43.519
follow this story, and then by the time the second

492
00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:46.079
act hits, the rug has not has not been pulled

493
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:50.559
out from under you. It's been like vaporized into non existence.

494
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:53.759
The rug never existed. You simply believed in the rug.

495
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:57.039
Therefore your feet didn't feel like you know, they didn't

496
00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.079
feel the cold tile of the ground. But in reality,

497
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:01.319
there was never a rug.

498
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:04.200
There was never a rug. There may not never have been.

499
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:06.759
A floory, you may have never had feet. Yeah, no,

500
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.599
because because that's the thing is like, once the story

501
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:15.759
starts happening, yeah it it Nothing is as it seems,

502
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:20.200
nothing goes exactly the way you're expecting, but it does

503
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:25.599
keep this weird mentality of everybody's pretty stupid.

504
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:31.039
Yeah, because like even even on the second watch through,

505
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:35.799
the only character that really comes across as competent would

506
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:41.400
be Felicity. No, you mean Felicity, Felicitie, Felicitie Felicity.

507
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.079
That's how that said it. Yeah. Well, and we're getting

508
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:46.480
way ahead of ourselves because she doesn't even get introduced

509
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.400
till the second act, just to give or take. So,

510
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:51.519
I mean, what you have here is a movie that

511
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:57.559
feels like it's going to be a camp cabin in

512
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:01.720
the woods slasher movie, which again, that's a very very

513
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:06.400
well known cliche. Yeah, and that's I mean, so many

514
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:09.279
movies start that way, and not only movies start that way,

515
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:13.079
but pitches for movies even now, because it is fun.

516
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:15.599
It is, it is, and when it comes to filming

517
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.119
the movies, it's fun to go to a rental cabin

518
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.759
and film because they're in beautiful places. So I get it. Yeah,

519
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.759
you know, I do get it. But yeah, it's such

520
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:29.400
a cliche. And here we're getting that cliche but a

521
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.400
little different, I mean a little bit. And all the

522
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:43.559
characters are while they are caricatures, they're like really broad caricatures.

523
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:41.920
And.

524
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:46.359
It makes you, yeah, it makes you both love them

525
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:49.119
and hate them like more and more.

526
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.279
Yeah, if they were, if they were predictable, you would

527
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:55.960
hate them. Yeah. I think that might be it because

528
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.480
I'm actually, as I'm describing how the characters are and

529
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.400
how the progresses, I'm finding myself having a harder and

530
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.480
harder time ending the sentences with And I like this

531
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:09.960
movie because none of it sounds like it'd be good, right,

532
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.559
That's probably the thing I think is most interesting about

533
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.440
the movie is that none of it really sounds good.

534
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.839
Well, it's kind of the embodiment of the phrase the

535
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.039
whole is larger than the sum of its parts, and

536
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:24.839
so like, when you break it down to its individual

537
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:27.599
constituent pieces, it sounds like, wow, that would be like

538
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:31.000
a really dumb kind of experience. But when you put

539
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:33.799
it all together, it's like, wow, this is actually a

540
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.400
pretty engaging wild ride of a movie.

541
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:41.599
Well engaging, it definitely is. And after this break, well

542
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.599
we'll start talking about some actual story points from it.

543
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.599
But believe you me, it's the weirdest movie because there's

544
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:50.920
not a lot to it and there's a lot to it. Yeah,

545
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:52.400
and we'll get to that right after this.

546
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:11.599
The movie opens with a naked, pregnant woman running through

547
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.680
the woods and she stabs herself and it's bloody.

548
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.480
You're leaving out the most important thing, like you're you're

549
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:25.799
you're not giving this any uh subtlety, okay, or or

550
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.680
a nuance. Nuance is the better way to put it.

551
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.319
She's not. She starts stabbing herself with a broken shard

552
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.039
of glass, which I just think is more is worth

553
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:40.759
mentioning because that's very unpleasant to just imagine doing at all.

554
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:46.240
When most stabbing yourself is unpleasant to imagine doing, so

555
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.319
I just wanted to clarify that it's so, And and

556
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:51.440
it does reappear. The broken piece of shard of glass

557
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.200
appears more times, but yeah, she's stabbing herself. It appears

558
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.359
in the stomach with.

559
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:01.319
It yea in her abdomen, and then isn't that the

560
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:06.680
same place? I guess I'm just being more technical about it.

561
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:07.920
Okay, fair enough.

562
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:15.359
Then we immediately cut to two girls about her age.

563
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.839
They're in a car and talking about their periods and

564
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:20.920
one of them is grossing out the other with like

565
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:24.319
a used tampon or used pad or something. So that

566
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:27.920
immediately kind of sets the tone of what kind of movie,

567
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:33.359
this is, what kind of characters we're dealing with, And

568
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.799
by way of introduction, we learn that their friend, Christy

569
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:40.519
is probably the girl that was running through the woods

570
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:42.480
because they can't get a hold of her, and they've

571
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:45.960
both been trying to reach her cell phone right and

572
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:48.880
neither one of them can get through to her. But regardless,

573
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.319
they're gonna go to the cabin that she's at because

574
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.200
they want to all, you know, spend time and have

575
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:58.319
have fun. You know, this last summer fling and then

576
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:02.720
we meet kind of I mean he's kind of the

577
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:09.240
main character, James, the male carrier, and he's delivering mail

578
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:11.480
in just like his beat up pickup truck because he

579
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:13.119
doesn't have an actual mail.

580
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.240
Truck, because he's part time, because he's part.

581
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:21.319
Time, and we immediately get the sense that he's part

582
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:25.400
time and also probably not aspiring to be full time

583
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:27.359
at any at any point.

584
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:29.559
Well, he just comes off as kind of a slacker,

585
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:31.799
and it doesn't help like us like and I don't

586
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:35.559
mean like a slacker, I mean like the cliche. Yeah,

587
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.960
of like a slacker guy who's just kind of like whatever, man,

588
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.079
I'm just making money and I'm gonna smoke my bud.

589
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:43.119
You know. It's not like there's not a lot to

590
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:48.400
it now. But he's with his buddy Pete Pete, and

591
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:51.079
Pete is all is the same kind of deal. He's

592
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:56.400
just a very archetypal slacker type guy. And they're out

593
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:59.880
looking for an address and he's like, the address doesn't

594
00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:02.599
he exist? The GPS took them to a dead end,

595
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:04.839
which I thought was pretty funny that they literally pull

596
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.400
up to like a road just ends, and he's like, look,

597
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:08.799
I told you and then he looks at the letter

598
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.200
and he goes, oh, we have the numbers backwards.

599
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:13.759
It's like, oh, it does it does exist.

600
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.079
It's over this way. But his buddy and this is

601
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:19.880
where the kind of like I don't know, the kind

602
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:24.000
of brilliant use of like dumb cliche kind of begins

603
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:27.240
because his buddy tells him like, because one of the

604
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:28.839
first things you have to do in a horror movie

605
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:31.640
is you have to separate characters so that bad things

606
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:34.279
can happen to them, and his buddy is just like,

607
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:36.799
all of a sudden, I mean, these guys they're literally

608
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.640
just like busting each other's balls figuratively, and then later

609
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:42.599
literally they're just like making making fun of each other

610
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:46.799
and making jokes and smoking weed and and all this stuff.

611
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:48.559
And then his buddy is just like, right when they're

612
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:51.599
about to leave, he's like, oh, uh, I have to

613
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.079
go to the bathroom. And he's like, actually, you might

614
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.400
have said I had to piss I. I really it's

615
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.119
gonna be a while. So he's like, just come back

616
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.000
and get me when you're done, and I'm all I'm thinking,

617
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:07.200
is like, oh, well, I mean obviously he needs to.

618
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:09.400
When you gotta go, you gotta go. My point is like,

619
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:11.880
why would your buddy need to leave, like, I mean,

620
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.280
you know, just he could wait five minutes for you,

621
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.039
for God's sake, you know. But so his buddy like

622
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:21.760
leaves and leaves him there to go deliver this mail

623
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:26.079
and he that's where it kind of like I said,

624
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:28.480
where it's doesn't sound like it would work. And so

625
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:30.840
far this at this point, when I was first watching

626
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:32.960
the movie, I didn't think this was very I mean,

627
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:34.840
I thought the guys were kind of funny, yeah, just

628
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:36.400
like I thought the girls were kind of funny. Yeah,

629
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.880
But everybody's got this kind of like really loud, boisterous,

630
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:43.880
stupid humor to them, and it's kind of strange that

631
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:47.320
they have that going for him. Yeah, So his buddy

632
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:50.360
goes to like do his business and he goes to

633
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:54.159
deliver his mail or the mail, and he gets the house.

634
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:58.599
There's nobody there. It kind of wanders around, still nobody there.

635
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.320
So then he does what like makes so much sense.

636
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:06.039
He sees a hammock. So he takes a nap yeah,

637
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.159
on the hammock, just because Yeah.

638
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.440
And this whole time while he's kind of like looking

639
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:14.000
around and yelling like, hey, is there anyone here by

640
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:17.039
the name, you know, Christy whatever, you know, I got

641
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:20.239
this letter and looking at the hammock and all that

642
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.840
we see, you know, the point of view of other

643
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:27.039
people watching him from the house or from the woods.

644
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:29.760
What is traditionally referred to as a killer POV.

645
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:30.920
Killer POV.

646
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.480
Yeah, where you know, where somebody's watching off on the side. Now,

647
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:38.400
oftentimes in horror movies, the killer POV, because it was

648
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:42.039
it was a very early established cliche. It's usually a

649
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.119
misdirection like you know, oh, somebody's watching them, and then

650
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:48.079
it cuts and it's like crazy Ralph in Friday the Thirteenth,

651
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:51.239
or it's you know, the sheriff, or it's yeah, somebody else,

652
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.920
not who you're thinking it'll be, or whatever it might be.

653
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.159
But yeah, so we're teased with this idea of like

654
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:03.039
a kind of killer slasher type killer watching him, and

655
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:06.239
then he ends up getting like attacked and we cut away.

656
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:07.400
Yeah.

657
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:11.280
Now the girls arrive at the cabin and uh, and

658
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:14.159
they immediately since they can't find Christy, they decide that

659
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.639
they need to lay out by the lake. It's on

660
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:22.719
this huge lake, like a very nice it's gorgeous. So

661
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.199
they decide that they're going to like hang out there

662
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:30.920
and wait for Christy. And so they're they're they're if

663
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.639
I remember correctly, the peat character sees them from across

664
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:39.760
the lake, yes, and they are like chasing each other around.

665
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:41.960
They're like trying to pull each other's tops off.

666
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:43.639
There because of course they why.

667
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:49.960
But he starts just furiously masturbating. He starts furiously like immediately.

668
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:53.880
After pulling out a comically large spy spy glass.

669
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:56.440
Oh yeah, he had a spy glass, which was just great,

670
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:58.599
so you could see them, like we're talking like a

671
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.480
like a pie. What happened with a telescope? Which was

672
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:06.400
a hilarious touch that he just has that. But he's

673
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.280
watching them and eventually they kind of like see him

674
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:11.400
and he runs off and they're mad for a second,

675
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:15.360
and that leads them to discover oh, what's his name,

676
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.800
the James, Yeah, to discover James sleeping. Well, he's laying

677
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:22.159
the hammock. We think he's dead, but then they go

678
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:26.119
and get a gun from her glovebox. They poke him

679
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:28.000
with it. He wakes up and then they act like

680
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:29.360
they're gonna shoot him, and it turns out it's a

681
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:31.719
water pistol, which makes a lot more sense than her

682
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:35.599
having a German luger just hanging out in her glovebox.

683
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:39.400
But so now he's like, what the hell, you know,

684
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:42.679
and they're laughing about it, Yeah, about it. It's it's

685
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:43.960
really strange, but.

686
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:48.079
They're not disturbed by being watched or by him being there.

687
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.400
They were mad about being watched, but they just kind

688
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.679
of brush it off almost instantly when there's a new

689
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.760
shiny thing to look at, you know, And and that's

690
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:58.679
again like it doesn't sound like it's it's gonna work.

691
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:00.440
And at this point I still wasn't sure if the

692
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:04.599
movie worked. But we're getting these characters all together, and

693
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.400
there's this consistency of like, he has a bloody wound

694
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:12.880
on his arm that he notices, but nobody seems to care. Yeah,

695
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:17.760
they just kind of move along. And then things start

696
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:20.480
to pick up after Pete goes to take a leak,

697
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:22.800
and we'll get to that right after this.

698
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:42.280
So Pete, wandering through the woods, stops to pee, and

699
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.119
while he's peeing, he notices like a cell phone ringing,

700
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:49.840
and he goes to like reach down and pick it up,

701
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:53.800
and then realizes there's a dead body and he's been

702
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:57.559
peeing on the dead body, and being the genius that

703
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:01.599
he is, he goes to wipe pee off the body

704
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:04.519
and like goes and moves it around and everything.

705
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.719
Yeah, yeah, it's it's so it's a naked woman who

706
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:09.920
appears to be dead, just laying there, and it looks

707
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:11.880
a lot like the woman from the beginning of the film,

708
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:16.280
except she doesn't have any of the markings on her

709
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:18.719
stomach and stuff. Yeah she had at the beginning, And

710
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:22.840
no stab marks, no weird runes, nothing. Yeah, she's just

711
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:26.960
dead there, Yeah, just laying there. So, yeah, his instinct

712
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.480
is to try and get wipe the pee off of her.

713
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:32.840
I'm guessing I assumed it was because of DNA. But

714
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:34.599
then he throws the hat to the side and it's like, oh,

715
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.559
well the hat's full of your hair. Yeah, like it's

716
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.559
right by there, Like what the hell? So then he

717
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:46.159
takes pictures. Yeah, and it would it would appear that

718
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.599
that the gag is because she's naked. Yeah, And that's

719
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.719
another element that plays out a few times that's really bizarre.

720
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:55.000
But it doesn't even I don't even find it offensive

721
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:56.920
because it's so stupid.

722
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:59.400
It is because.

723
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:02.119
In a minute, yeah, well we'll get to it because

724
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:07.639
i'll remember. But so he finds a cell phone which

725
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:11.079
turns out to be Christie's cell phone, and then as

726
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:13.840
he's like getting really close to her, like he might

727
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.480
be getting on top of her, we don't know, she

728
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:19.800
wakes up, and the moment he realizes she's alive, he's like,

729
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.559
oh my god, you know, and then he calls the

730
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:26.280
number that's been texting Christy and leaves this voicemail about,

731
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.199
you know, I found your friend. It's gonna sound weird

732
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:32.639
because it's not her, but she's not moving or anything.

733
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:34.639
And while he's saying that, of course she's gotten up and.

734
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.280
Now kind of like looming behind him.

735
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.960
Yeah, but she is just a tiny naked woman, which

736
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:44.400
is just kind of funny. Yes, that's the thing. But

737
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:47.320
also while they're doing that, we see another killer POV

738
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:50.800
that isnt either of them, which helps kind of mislead

739
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:54.079
you into thinking maybe she's not the killer or something.

740
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:58.599
But yeah, so that's kind of.

741
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:03.960
Yeah, well it definitely keeps you guessing, and obviously that's

742
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:08.480
clearly on purpose why they're trying to like constantly mislead

743
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:13.760
mislead us and keep us from you know, really picking

744
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.599
up what's going on. But it's kind of hard to

745
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:19.639
say what's going on because sometimes it seems like the

746
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.480
movie like doesn't even want you to figure it out

747
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:23.119
at all.

748
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:25.880
I mean, I don't think at this point. I think

749
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.360
that the movie so it's so straightforward, it kind of

750
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.320
lulls you into a false sense of security, like you

751
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:34.519
think it's going to be very simple and dumb, and

752
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:39.159
then it gets very weird, complicated and dumb and dumb

753
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:41.360
is a little bit harsh, but it is. It is

754
00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:43.639
kind of characters. Well, the characters go from like really

755
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.719
stupid to later on to being almost more quirky. Mm hmm,

756
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:50.119
because what they're doing kind of makes sense and matters,

757
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:53.440
I guess. But so I but did you want to

758
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:53.960
keep going on?

759
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:59.519
Oh yeah, yeah. So so the other characters back at

760
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:04.000
the farmhouse or you know, in the lake house, they're

761
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.280
all sitting around and drinking now and kind of like partying.

762
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.639
Yeah, this dude who was just there who At first

763
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:12.599
they thought maybe he had done something to Christy, but

764
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:13.719
then they decided.

765
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.280
He hadn't, and so now he's all cool.

766
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.079
They were just yelling at him about a bunch of stuff,

767
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.960
and now they're just like whatever, hanging out it's yeah,

768
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.199
and uh yeah, it's bizarre.

769
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:28.599
And and like, uh see, Ashley's like puking her guts out,

770
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:33.079
and Lindsey and James are kind of flirting a little bit.

771
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:38.360
But of course then once Lindsay starts getting too drunk

772
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:42.800
and Ashley's not puking as much, then James starts flirting

773
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:44.719
with Ashley a little bit more, because you.

774
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.639
Know, that's a little bit later, a little bit later.

775
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:50.519
Oh yeah it is, yeah, it's way later actually, So

776
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:56.840
he's he's like flirting with Lindsey hardcore, and of course

777
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:01.400
they're not getting the phone call at all. Nobody notices, uh,

778
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:06.519
And then they're trying to Lindsay and James are trying

779
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.079
to get into the house because they want to, you know,

780
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:13.000
do the deed, but they don't want to do it outside,

781
00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.760
but they can't get the door open. So he she's like,

782
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:19.519
go go get me, like, go get me a sleeping

783
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:21.000
bag and we can just like do it on the

784
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.000
front porch. He runs to get a sleeping bag and

785
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:26.599
as she's as she's like, no, that one's mine.

786
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:29.920
Yeah, they're both.

787
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:35.079
They're both mine. So it's it's very clear that his

788
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.519
priorities are all in his pants.

789
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:41.320
Well yeah, I mean but they but even when they weren't,

790
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:44.360
they made no sense. Yeah, I mean, he just goes

791
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.800
to sleep in a hammock. Why why why does he

792
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:49.119
do that? Like, why would you do that? Strange place?

793
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:53.519
So but when, if I'm remember correctly, I mean you

794
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:57.480
left out one of the best parts part, which when

795
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:01.280
Ashley tells him that her friend it's a virgin and

796
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:02.719
it like freaks him out.

797
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:04.679
Yes, I do remember that part.

798
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.239
Now, I say, you remember the sleeping bag gag, but

799
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.400
not the virgin part. The virgin part's way funnier. So

800
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:11.880
now he's all weirded out.

801
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:14.000
Because he doesn't because he doesn't want to be.

802
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:17.360
Her first time or whatever. So it's it's very very

803
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:22.039
uh bizarre, And and the build the lead up is

804
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.800
really kind of the like I said, the most misleading

805
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:25.480
part of the film.

806
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:29.679
Yeah, well, because again you feel like it's going to

807
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:35.280
be a normal slasher and to an extent, yeah sure,

808
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:38.360
because you're like, Okay, well, obviously this person's gonna die,

809
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.280
and this person's gonna die and then and then we'll

810
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.159
get the final girl and something will happen and then

811
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:45.920
she gets to survive and everything, you know, everything's fine

812
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:49.239
and sets up for the sequel. So we get that

813
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:55.960
a little bit because we kind of get get back

814
00:44:56.000 --> 00:45:01.119
to Pete and he's not doing well. He's dead now

815
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:04.599
in the woods, and that kind of, you know, that

816
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:08.079
sets up like, Okay, the killer's coming for them. And

817
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:10.559
we go back to the lake house and they all

818
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:15.079
notice a figure out on the other like across from

819
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:20.960
the lake, and as they're looking they realize it's one

820
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:25.000
a naked woman covered in blood, and two it's just

821
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:28.599
walking toward them and just like gets into the water

822
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.719
and just keeps walking and walking, and like, yeah, head

823
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:36.239
goes underwater and they lose sight of her, and being

824
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:40.000
the genius as they are, they kind of are a

825
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:44.880
little off put, but they don't panic the way a

826
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:49.360
I feel like a normal person would necessarily panic when

827
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:51.760
you see a strange naked woman covered in blood walking

828
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:52.559
out of the woods.

829
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:54.920
I mean, I think the way you should panic when

830
00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:57.840
you see somebody just walk into the water apparently drowning.

831
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.559
That would be the thing that would have gotten me. Yeah,

832
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:04.679
and yeah, that's and that's where now things are getting

833
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.840
ready to pick up and the you know, if it

834
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.079
were a slasher movie, which in a way it is,

835
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:12.360
but it isn't. It would be the slashing would be

836
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:16.440
getting ready to start, and the choices continue to be

837
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:20.079
very strange. But like I said, everything really changes in

838
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:23.400
the second act and we're almost there and we'll keep

839
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:28.559
heading that way, like Christy marching from the underwater right

840
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:28.960
after this.

841
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:48.159
So James reacts kind of rationally seeing this naked, bloody

842
00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:52.719
woman walking toward the lake and he's like, who is that?

843
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:59.199
And you know, Ashley is a little concerned, but you know, Lindsey,

844
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:03.639
she's so she doesn't care at all. But then that's

845
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:08.039
when Ashley realizes like, oh, she's got a voicemail, and

846
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:11.480
that's when we get the you know, kind of bone

847
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:14.440
chilling realization that she's just now getting the message from

848
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:20.159
Pete and kind of putting it together that her friend

849
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:24.039
may be the one who's coming to get them across

850
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:28.159
the lake. So when she gets out of the lake

851
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:31.199
and like kind of I wouldn't say she rushes at them.

852
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:33.199
She's never really that quick.

853
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:35.599
No, No, she's tragic a little, but.

854
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.599
It's kind of like the old fashioned like Night of

855
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:43.559
the Living Dead, zombies are scary because they're lumbering and

856
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:45.920
they never give up. And that's kind of the same thing.

857
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:49.760
Is Christy is scary because she just does not relent.

858
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:56.119
So they run to the car, but like any self

859
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:58.519
respecting slasher movie, the car will not start.

860
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:02.159
Well, I I'm shocked you forgot the moment where when

861
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:05.280
they when she starts walking up the guy, James just

862
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:08.000
starts going like, is that a naked chick? Somebody take

863
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.320
a picture for me? I don't have my phone. I

864
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:13.760
didn't forget and which which is another like great example,

865
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:17.719
like what like what is what like that's beyond like

866
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:20.639
a frat boy mentality, that's just like a bizarre brain

867
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:24.199
dead kind of mindset, like somebody took a picture for me,

868
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:28.880
Like Okay, So I just thought that was worth mentioning

869
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.320
because we were talking about how kind of out there

870
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:31.760
they get.

871
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:34.719
Yeah, no, thank you for reminding me of that, because

872
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:41.559
I forgot about that. So yeah, like any self respecting

873
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:45.400
slasherom movie, they can't get away in the car. Uh.

874
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:51.119
So as there as their trying to like figure out

875
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:56.199
what to do, of course James is now going to

876
00:48:56.400 --> 00:49:03.800
flirt with Ashley. Well yeah, because because not so as

877
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:09.400
as they're sitting there flirting, Katie shows back up again

878
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:13.000
or Chrissy shows back up again and kind of heads

879
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:19.159
them off from Lindsey, so they've got to get back

880
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:25.039
to her. She Chrissy grabs James and lifts him up,

881
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:29.840
lifts him up and starts to choke him, and Ashley

882
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:31.280
bites her.

883
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:33.960
Yeah, and then the other girl hits her with a

884
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:36.920
boat or yeah, like they just like whoop her. But

885
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:38.679
then they just kind of walk away and go back

886
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:40.559
to like, let's try to get in the cabin again.

887
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:47.039
Yeah, like, yeah, again, they don't make logical decisions, but

888
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:52.559
because of how entertaining the consequences are, I can kind

889
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:53.440
of forgive them.

890
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:56.639
Yeah. No, And like I said, I don't think the

891
00:49:56.679 --> 00:50:00.400
movie really kind of shines until later. Right now, it's

892
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:03.880
just pretty stupid. And I do think that that is

893
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.320
in a way to kind of lull us into that

894
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:08.639
full sense of security that we know kind of what

895
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:12.639
we're getting, Yeah, and then we get something way further

896
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:16.519
out exactly, which I appreciate. I mean, that's really why

897
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:20.360
we're talking about it exactly. So, So now they're trying

898
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.679
to break the glass to get into the cabin to

899
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:27.679
escape Christy and yeah, they're.

900
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.199
Sitting there like banging on the door and banging on

901
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:33.440
the glass with an oar, and then the door swings

902
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.800
open and there's just this crotchety old man in the

903
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:40.480
door and he's like ah and then slams the door

904
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:43.920
back in their faces. Yeah, and they're like, no, let

905
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:46.800
us in, like we need we need to get in

906
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:52.280
away from that where you know it's not safe. And then, uh,

907
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:57.199
the two figures that had kind of been trailing them,

908
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:01.119
they finally come out from the woods and it's you know,

909
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:05.559
this hillbilly looking kind of guy and this hick hillbilly

910
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:10.360
looking kind of girl in like tattered old clothes. She's

911
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:14.159
wearing like an old timey dress that's all like muddied

912
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:20.320
and mucked up, and they kind of like shepherd everyone

913
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:28.039
into the house, and you immediately get the sense like, Okay,

914
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:34.920
they know and are prepared for what's happening more than

915
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:41.159
anyone else obviously, and they immediately start like trying to

916
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:45.360
get everyone to cooperate with them while they're in the house,

917
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:51.880
without really explaining exactly what's going on, just explaining like

918
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:58.280
they need them, they need sacrifices, and they need compliance basically.

919
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.159
So I I'm guessing it didn't confuse you. The part

920
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:06.599
where the older son of this of this guy cut

921
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:08.880
his hand and then drew a roun on the glass

922
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:10.519
and then all of a sudden, it created a force

923
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:13.840
field that Christy couldn't walk through. He's kind of left

924
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:14.199
that out.

925
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.760
Well, that's what I mean, like there, that's what I

926
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:20.559
meant by like compliance. They want compliance, and they the

927
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:22.840
sacrifice is like the blood.

928
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:28.800
Okay, I'm I'm talking about when he drew on the

929
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:31.000
glass and it made like a glowing force field.

930
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:31.480
Mm hmm.

931
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:34.519
I thought that was really cool. It was very but

932
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:36.480
well because it comes out of nowhere.

933
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:43.320
I don't know, no, I uh so that's when the kill.

934
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:49.400
The Friday the thirteenth, Part seven kill happened is Christie

935
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:53.280
grabbed Lindsay and while she's like trying to huddle in

936
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:57.360
a sleeping gap, sleeping bag grabs her, drags her back

937
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:02.880
out of the cabin, hoists it up, and just whack, whack,

938
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:09.320
whack into a tree. Pretty gory is pretty effective kill.

939
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:11.440
You're sure it's part seven, right.

940
00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:13.280
I'm really hoping it's part seven.

941
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:18.360
No, it is, but I see I want to make

942
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:22.039
you suffer as a horror fan. Oh no, so I'm

943
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.079
guessing you could never in a million years. Guess what

944
00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:25.880
Part seven subtitle was?

945
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:30.119
Seven? Eight nine? No, I don't remember.

946
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:35.199
Do you remember any of them? It starts with part

947
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.920
four because you have Frida at thirteenth, Friday Thirteenth Part

948
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.239
two and Friday the Thirteenth Part three three?

949
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:42.079
D Okay, I.

950
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:43.440
Start having subtitles.

951
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:47.360
Wow, none, no, no, I just not a one. I

952
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:50.280
just well, is it Jason in Manhattan?

953
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:52.119
You even got that wrong?

954
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:54.199
Yeah, it takes manhat takes Manhattan.

955
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:54.880
Which one is that?

956
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:56.000
Seven?

957
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:56.639
Or no?

958
00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:58.960
Eight? Eight? Because it's after seven?

959
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:03.320
Yeah? Yes, after Well you said seven first, which is

960
00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:04.519
funny because.

961
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:05.480
I was thinking of seven.

962
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:08.519
No, it's Friday the Thirteenth, Part four, the Final Chapter,

963
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:15.000
Part five, a New Beginning, Part six Jason Lives, Part

964
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:20.480
seven the New Blood. Then Part eight is Jason takes Manhattan,

965
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:23.760
and then part nine is Jason Goes to Hell and

966
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:28.239
ten is Jason X. But those are easy, those are easy.

967
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:29.079
Those are the easy ones.

968
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:31.119
Oh so I did remember it well, kind of vaguely

969
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:35.599
remembered Jayson takes Manhattan in Manhattan.

970
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:38.480
Yeah, but considering the whole point is Jason's in it,

971
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:41.679
which you no doubt knew, and you remembered Manhattan was

972
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:44.519
a major point, even though the film is really Jason

973
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:46.880
takes Vancouver but spends half the movie on a boat,

974
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:50.719
which I actually love the boat stuff in that, so

975
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.199
it is kind of funny. I was very disappointed the

976
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:54.840
first timements in New York City and found out that

977
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:57.400
the sewers do not flood with toxic waste every night

978
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.519
at midnight. Smells like it would, but it doesn't.

979
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:01.440
They lied to us.

980
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:03.000
But we're going to take a quick break and then

981
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:05.960
we'll get back into the insanity that happens in this

982
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:07.880
cabin right after this.

983
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:23.159
So they make their getaway back into the cabin right

984
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:26.599
and that's when we get the blood runs on the

985
00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:29.360
door and it creates a force field.

986
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.880
A glowing force field. This is where the movie starts

987
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:38.440
to really get you because this big you know, we

988
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:41.960
used to call him Bubba's or Jeads. He cuts his

989
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:45.920
arm and just starts drawing like these ruins on it,

990
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:47.719
like some kind of a symbol on the door, in

991
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:50.800
his blood. And when he's done, the blood glows like

992
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:56.079
a pink, like a bright pink thing. Wow. Wow. And

993
00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:58.920
then Christy can't get through it. She just stands there

994
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:02.360
staring through it. Can't pass it, so he somehow sealed

995
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:08.679
the door. Yeah, and but prior to this, the most

996
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:12.719
supernatural thing you'd seen is that the Christy character appears

997
00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:16.239
to have died, but now she's alive again. Everything else

998
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:18.960
was at least arguably in the realm of reality.

999
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:19.360
Yeah.

1000
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:22.800
So to me, that is the moment. That's why I

1001
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:24.599
harped on it so much. That's the moment when you

1002
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:27.400
go whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wha what yea? You know,

1003
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:30.199
it would be like if if you know, they they

1004
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:33.119
burst into like a room with a metal door and

1005
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:34.519
one of the people is like, hold on and use

1006
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:36.519
laser eyes to seal the edges. You'd be like, what

1007
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:39.119
was that part come from? What was that part? Hold on?

1008
00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:41.760
Back up, back up, you know, And meanwhile they're like,

1009
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:43.880
who lets you in here? Like hold on, but what

1010
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:45.639
about the laser eyes. I want to ask about the

1011
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:50.480
laser eyes. Excuse me please, Harry Kakuto New York Times,

1012
00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:52.360
what about the laser eyes? You know?

1013
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:53.679
And they're like so anyway.

1014
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:56.960
Yeah. So that's why it's like hyper memorable to me

1015
00:56:57.000 --> 00:56:58.400
because I just remember the first time up be going

1016
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:03.760
what the hell? Yeah, like it's so normal. When it

1017
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:05.920
happens to him, he just does it. Yeah, that it

1018
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:07.880
almost feels like part of me would be like, did

1019
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:12.360
I just like fall asleep for a second? Imagine that? Like,

1020
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:14.239
what the hell am I having an aneurysm?

1021
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:19.000
So yeah, and that's that's what I love about, you know,

1022
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:24.079
Felicity and her brother and uh, the old guy Francis

1023
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:29.159
is this is so normal to them, to an you know,

1024
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:32.239
to an extent, they there's clearly something has gone wrong,

1025
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:35.119
but they all seem to know like, oh, well, if

1026
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:37.159
this goes wrong, this is how we fix it.

1027
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:39.639
I don't know if I would say normal might not

1028
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:43.880
quite be what I would call it, but it's certainly

1029
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:47.400
expected there you go. I mean like it's it's definitely

1030
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:50.679
not new. Yeah, you know, I feel like normal would

1031
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:53.239
be they would have been even more nonchalant, because they

1032
00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:55.159
weren't exactly you know what I mean there was they were.

1033
00:57:55.199 --> 00:58:00.320
They were not chalant. They were not Yeah yeah, but no,

1034
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:02.480
I mean but you're right though, like they do seem

1035
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:05.400
to have an understanding of what's going on, which gives

1036
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:09.039
them a degree of calmness. Yeah, and that also adds

1037
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:14.559
to the ridiculousness because these characters, the family, which, Uh,

1038
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:17.760
oh gosh, what's the dad's name. It's it's a Francis.

1039
00:58:18.840 --> 00:58:23.760
What was the boy's name, Philip? Philip? You sure, yeah, Philip,

1040
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:29.079
You're right, and then felsa tie tie, Melissa tie. I

1041
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:31.599
think that's how he said it. It's really silly. They

1042
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:36.559
are another B movie cliche or slasher movie cliche, which

1043
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:40.400
is the scary rednecks. Yeah, And one of my favorite

1044
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:45.119
things about that cliche in horror is that it's come

1045
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:48.880
very full circle. Early on, when these horror movies were

1046
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:53.480
being made, often by young kids, kids fresh out of college,

1047
00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:59.519
stuff like that, they had this fear, this deep fear

1048
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:04.199
of rednecks and hillbillies and country folk and rural folk,

1049
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:06.559
and a lot of that probably came from Deliverance and

1050
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:09.840
stuff like that, but they did so they'd always make

1051
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:13.360
them the scary ones. And then as time went on

1052
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:17.119
into the eighties and stuff, then it became a trope

1053
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:21.360
to have them not be The trope went from scary

1054
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:25.920
hillbilly's to the scary hillbilly who's actually really helpful or

1055
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:28.960
really nice or whatever. And I always thought that was

1056
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:31.320
a hilarious kind of turn that it was, like it

1057
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:34.480
became so common people were like, what if they were nice?

1058
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:38.840
Why not? Yeah, so we have we were being presented

1059
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:43.639
with these caricaturesque hillbilly characters. I mean, I mean literally,

1060
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:49.079
Felicitae and Philip are filthy. Yeah, for no apparent reason.

1061
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:53.679
They're just dirty, and Felicity has like her lips barely

1062
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:56.599
have any color to them. I'm not sure if that's

1063
00:59:56.639 --> 01:00:02.800
supposed to be hinting at like bad brief or bad nutrition.

1064
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:06.199
Or what, but it is like someone just off Yeah,

1065
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:07.480
not a good sign.

1066
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:13.800
And that makes them intimidating to our two foolish characters. Yeah,

1067
01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:15.800
and that's kind of the point, you know, is that

1068
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:18.199
they're being off put by them. But these are not

1069
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:23.440
your average scary rednecks from a horror movie, because it

1070
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:26.000
becomes very clear as they're trying to ask what the

1071
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:28.280
hell is going on that they know what's going on,

1072
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:33.039
but they frustratingly And this is where the movie, like

1073
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:35.719
I keep saying, like, this is where the movie becomes paydirt.

1074
01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:39.239
This is where the movie is. What I really love

1075
01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:44.239
about it. They frustrate you so much by not telling you,

1076
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:47.039
like they're asking straightforward questions like what I need from

1077
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:50.000
you is this? And this and it's like, okay, but

1078
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:53.400
what is that. It's like, all in due time, if

1079
01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:56.719
we have the sacrifice we need and the blah blah blah,

1080
01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:00.440
you know, felicite, grab the bab ba la.

1081
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:02.559
Philip, go get your mama.

1082
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:07.360
Yeah, it's just and and and it's almost sometimes it's

1083
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:11.679
almost like there, which is another like favorite comedy weapon,

1084
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:15.239
uh in parody, it's almost like they're reacting to different

1085
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:19.000
questions that are being asked, which is one of my

1086
01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:24.679
favorite like ways to do satire or or farces is

1087
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:27.199
to just have people reacting like you're saying what they

1088
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.400
are like, they're just reacting like you said something totally different.

1089
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:33.800
I think that's always funny. And it's they're not doing

1090
01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:36.519
it like super outrageously. That's the other thing is it's

1091
01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:39.000
always a little there's like they have one foot in

1092
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:43.480
like a more sane space and the other foot is

1093
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:47.559
just like knee deep in the mud of crazy. Yeah.

1094
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:52.559
So we have this, yeah, this apparently hyper redneck family,

1095
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:56.320
and we start to get hints that they were doing

1096
01:01:56.480 --> 01:02:02.000
a kind of ritual exactly, some kind of a resurrection ritual. Yeah,

1097
01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:04.519
because they want to bring back Mama, well or at

1098
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:06.679
least well, they all do. But Dad says that they

1099
01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:10.719
have and that that's mama is Christie out there, I

1100
01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:16.000
guess suggesting that that the like maybe because the ritual

1101
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:20.760
wasn't completed, she's this revenant that just wants to kill everybody.

1102
01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:23.079
I mean, but we're really postulating here because they.

1103
01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:24.480
They don't give you a thing.

1104
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:27.440
Well, the thing is, they give you stuff that just

1105
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:30.400
makes you go because the ending makes when the ending happens,

1106
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:33.039
and we'll get there. When the ending happens, you just

1107
01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:38.559
go what yeah, and it really makes you go okay,

1108
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:44.119
okay oki doki oki doki. So and we're heading straight

1109
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:50.840
toward there because rapetition, yes, because apparently the next step

1110
01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:56.960
in the ritual might be a bit less uh what's

1111
01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:59.119
that word? A little less benign?

1112
01:02:59.559 --> 01:02:59.760
Yeah.

1113
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:04.440
Then some people are hoping we'll talk all about that

1114
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:05.519
right after this.

1115
01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:25.800
Things are escalating and the family is pretty adamant that

1116
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:31.039
they need samples, and they say, it's all right. They

1117
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:34.679
already got a sample from James. And that's when we realize,

1118
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:41.159
ohio from his arm. So there's our answer. So they

1119
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.599
go to take a sample of Ashley's blood and uh,

1120
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:49.280
that's when James kind of notices this may be kind

1121
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:51.360
of sinister because he sees what could be like a

1122
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:56.119
dead body in another adjoining room, and like candles set

1123
01:03:56.239 --> 01:04:01.559
up everywhere, and uh, Francis the dad raises a gun

1124
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:04.519
to James's head and says, all right, this is how

1125
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:11.920
we finished this. And Felicity like she's been helpful, but

1126
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:14.840
she's also been asking, like do we really have to

1127
01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:17.000
do this or at least do it this way, or

1128
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:19.000
like we weren't told. You told me it wasn't gonna

1129
01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:20.400
be like that. Yeah, you told me it wasn't going

1130
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:22.599
to be like this, and it wasn't supposed to be

1131
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:27.920
this way. And so when Francis is gonna kill James,

1132
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:31.239
Felicity says, that person out there is not my mom,

1133
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:39.000
and she, uh, she's the one who does she take

1134
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.800
another gun? No, Philip Phillips grabs a gun.

1135
01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:42.719
It's Philip.

1136
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:45.679
Philip grabs a gun and he shoots his dad because

1137
01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:48.679
dad had told him go get go get mama, and

1138
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:51.360
Philip snuck off, got a gun, came back.

1139
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:52.480
Well Philip had a gun.

1140
01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.360
Oh that's yeah, yeah, yeah, it turned on dad.

1141
01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:57.719
Yeah, Dad had a gun and Philip had a gun. Yeah,

1142
01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:00.639
and Philip had up until this point been just kind

1143
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:03.760
of doing whatever his dad said, grabbing people, cutting himself,

1144
01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:07.760
you know, all this stuff and h And where you

1145
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:10.079
really start to realize the movie's bonkers is now they've

1146
01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:14.320
killed the dad and after he's been shot, Philip just

1147
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:16.880
walks up and blows his head off, like shoots him

1148
01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:21.079
again and just like his head's gone, super Cory and

1149
01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:23.440
now they're like, all right, we got we gotta do

1150
01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:25.920
something to get this thing to stop coming after us.

1151
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:28.920
And they're like uh, and she's just like, you gotta

1152
01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:30.960
do what I say, because like I'm trying to save

1153
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:34.280
all of our lives. And this really is where the

1154
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:37.280
movie peaks, and but it holds the peak a wild

1155
01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:40.920
just keeps getting weirder, and I mean, like it stopped

1156
01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:44.719
me if at this juncture, we're not really going to

1157
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:48.239
be able to run down like it's so much happens. Well,

1158
01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:50.079
it happens, and it happens in a way that it's

1159
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:53.079
hard to know the remember the order because it's so bizarre,

1160
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:55.800
and it leads into the next thing. But basically they're like,

1161
01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:58.719
we gotta do this ritual and we understand it might

1162
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:03.320
be some kind of a resurrectional Yeah, so she tells

1163
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:08.079
Philip to go freshen up the pentagram. So he goes

1164
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:10.000
to the other room and cuts his arm open, which

1165
01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:11.559
she had already cut his other arm open.

1166
01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:14.199
Yeah, so he's now bleeding out of both arms, well

1167
01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:14.599
the other one.

1168
01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:16.960
I think he like wrapped it up, but it bled

1169
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.840
a lot before he did that. So now he's literally

1170
01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:21.719
going around this blood pentagram on the floor and just

1171
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:25.840
filling it in and he's bleeding a lot. Yeah, And

1172
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:27.199
I remember the first time watching it, I was like,

1173
01:06:27.239 --> 01:06:32.039
he is bleeding a lot. So, so he's bleeding and

1174
01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:34.360
she pulls out the.

1175
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:37.199
Pop if Felicity pulls out like this big giant like

1176
01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:40.159
tome and like all these papers, then hands it to

1177
01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:41.639
the other two. She's like can you read?

1178
01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:46.239
And she asks it so sincerely, can you read? And

1179
01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:50.840
they're like yeah, it's good. Start good, yeah, start reading.

1180
01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:52.559
But then as she's looking at it, like what are

1181
01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:55.639
we looking for? And she doesn't answer them until they say,

1182
01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:56.559
what are we looking for?

1183
01:06:57.800 --> 01:06:58.519
I don't even know.

1184
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:04.039
She just looks the oh gosh, I can't. Ashley goes

1185
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:06.079
a glow.

1186
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:10.000
Yeah, like gets all demonic.

1187
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:11.119
It's crazy.

1188
01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:14.800
But they never reference it. No, one like says like

1189
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:16.480
why she could do that.

1190
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:19.480
Yeah, but I will say, if you want to give

1191
01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:21.679
the benefit of the doubt, it could be a way

1192
01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:24.760
of saying, like the fastest way of letting her know

1193
01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:29.599
this is beyond like regular comprehension, like yeah, you see

1194
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:31.239
how you couldn't comprehend that, Well, you're not going to

1195
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:36.480
comprehend this. Or My other theory was that doing that

1196
01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:40.079
made her able to read the pages, because she shortly

1197
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:41.360
after that, she goes, I found something.

1198
01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:43.480
No, you're right, that's interesting.

1199
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:46.280
Maybe she shared sight with her so she could read

1200
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:51.400
the Yeah, the whatever you know, uh, demonic pages or

1201
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:53.960
condarian or whatever.

1202
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:59.880
Yeah, there you go. But of course Philip is now

1203
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:01.000
sitting in the corner.

1204
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:03.800
I think I need a band aid, and they just.

1205
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:07.000
Throw him duct tape. Yeah, which is great because like

1206
01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:09.760
I mean, yeah, kinda yeah, I.

1207
01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:12.679
Need to show you Decampitated. That's a horror comedy where

1208
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:14.800
duct tape is like the only thing keeping one of

1209
01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:19.039
the characters alive. That movie's so funny. I should buy

1210
01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:21.560
the Blu ray, but it's expensive and I probably would

1211
01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:23.239
only watch it once anyway.

1212
01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:29.840
Anyway, So they just toss Philip duct tape and he's

1213
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:33.640
like trying to bandage up his arm, but he does

1214
01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:38.039
not do very well. And that's when Felicity asks the

1215
01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:42.039
question we all have been wondering, and I know you've

1216
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:44.079
been wondering when do we eat?

1217
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:44.600
Oh?

1218
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:48.520
Oh that too. Are either of these two virgins?

1219
01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:48.960
Oh?

1220
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:50.920
Yeah, yeah, I definitely was wondering that.

1221
01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:51.760
Uh.

1222
01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:58.239
And it turns out, while uh, while what's her face?

1223
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:01.000
The other friend had said that Ashley was a virgin.

1224
01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:01.640
No she's not.

1225
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:07.479
But no, she's not a virgin. So and then we

1226
01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:10.319
hear it's three and three. She mentions this a couple

1227
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:12.239
of times, three and three, three and three.

1228
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:15.880
And she like she stops and starts sniffing.

1229
01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:19.520
She drops to the floor and starts smelling Ashley's crotch

1230
01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:22.920
and then goes, she is something. She I forget what

1231
01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.520
she says exactly. It's something about she says like she's

1232
01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:30.359
she'll she'll she'll do she'll do so, so what we

1233
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:33.800
basically start to figure out and in all this then

1234
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:37.319
she realizes that Philip's dead. She's like, god, damn it.

1235
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:38.359
Uh.

1236
01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:41.600
We figure out that what they need in the chalice

1237
01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:46.760
is the blood of three virgins and three non versions virgins.

1238
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:51.479
So she this is why the movie is so great.

1239
01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:53.720
She's like, I guess I'll have to improvise, but I

1240
01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:57.840
have an idea. So she cuts Philip's throat he's dead

1241
01:09:57.880 --> 01:09:59.720
already has a throat to fill the chalice with some

1242
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:02.079
of it blood, cuts herself to fill some of her

1243
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:06.560
blood in there, then has Ashley put some of her

1244
01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:09.399
blood in. Gets the blood used Tampa blood. Yeah, the

1245
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:13.880
Tampa blood came as Yeah. So so now we've established

1246
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:17.119
that her menstrual blood is like separate from.

1247
01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:20.680
Her Okay, I mean that it makes as much sense

1248
01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:21.840
as anything else in the movie.

1249
01:10:22.039 --> 01:10:27.079
So that counts as virgin's blood. Yeah, So they they

1250
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:31.119
do this, so but the part that that like makes

1251
01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:34.520
it go way over the top. You know, I'm gonna wait,

1252
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:36.439
we'll talk about this when we get back, because because

1253
01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:39.800
they realize that they're actually not short a virgin, there's

1254
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:44.000
short a non version and we'll get to that right

1255
01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:45.159
after right after this.

1256
01:10:57.079 --> 01:11:00.760
All right, So three and three, and we've established that

1257
01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:06.119
for some reason, Ashley's menstrual blood counts as virgin blood, right,

1258
01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:11.159
And so we've got Philip and Felicity's blood being virgins.

1259
01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:16.479
We've got James's and Ashley's blood blood that means they

1260
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:19.479
need one more non virgin.

1261
01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:23.279
And I got to give it to Felicita Tae when

1262
01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:25.199
she says like, you know, I think we can I

1263
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:26.960
think I can make this work. I think we guess

1264
01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:33.079
got to improvise. So she gets on top of James. Yeah.

1265
01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:34.760
She tells James drop her pants.

1266
01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:37.039
Yeah, which she had just said to Uh, I can

1267
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:40.439
never remember release actually Ashley, she just said to her

1268
01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:42.359
when she had to do her whole tampon thing, which

1269
01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:45.359
they really drew that out to make sure the audience

1270
01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:48.640
was bothered, which I loved. So she hops on top

1271
01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:51.920
of James and just humps at him and he like

1272
01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:55.600
six seconds, boom, it's over, and it's just funny because

1273
01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:57.800
he's so still confused. After that, she just says, I

1274
01:11:57.960 --> 01:12:00.039
just thought I just didn't imagine my first time and

1275
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:01.319
being like that, and he's.

1276
01:12:01.199 --> 01:12:05.600
Like what, yeah, actually, it's like wow, six it's nice.

1277
01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:08.960
Then she cuts herself again and bleeds into the chalice.

1278
01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:11.800
So now I guess she has her virgin blood and

1279
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:16.680
her own non virgin blood. That's why this movie is memorable.

1280
01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:17.000
Guys.

1281
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:19.560
It's been ten years since it came out and we're

1282
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:22.800
still talking about it. There's a reason, because it's got

1283
01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:24.079
a lot to really enjoy it.

1284
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:26.399
That hasn't even gotten into the wildest part.

1285
01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:30.039
I mean it's up there, yeah, up there already. But

1286
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:35.399
so now they've got this chalice of just heinous blood

1287
01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:39.039
and they're supposed to drink from it.

1288
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:41.960
Yeah, that's like to complete the banishing.

1289
01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:46.520
And here's a good example of them jumping into tropes

1290
01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:49.960
in a fun way. Blood drinking is a very common

1291
01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:54.239
trope in you know, rituals and horror movies. Another trope

1292
01:12:54.239 --> 01:12:56.239
I hate, by the way, about blood letting is people

1293
01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:58.479
always cut the palm of their hand. Why would you

1294
01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:00.800
cut the palm in your hand? That'll hurt for months,

1295
01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:04.920
the bandage you'll come off because you're using you I

1296
01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:07.439
would I would cut like the back of my arm,

1297
01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:09.439
really because like then you just slap a band in

1298
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:13.079
on it. Donzo, you barely ever move that skin. But

1299
01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:16.119
people cut that, you know, I never understood that, Like,

1300
01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:19.239
why would you do that? Anyway? But yeah, so they

1301
01:13:19.279 --> 01:13:23.319
have to drink the blood. Very common cliche. But they

1302
01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:26.479
decide to not turn away from the fact that this

1303
01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:29.840
is really disgusting. Yeah, it would be disgusting if the

1304
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:34.119
blood wasn't chunky, style, but it is yeah with pulp, yes, yes,

1305
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:38.279
but uh, much like your blood was before you got

1306
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:40.119
your water bottle to make you drink enough water.

1307
01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:42.039
Yeah, I don't want to talk about.

1308
01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:47.319
How dehydrated the Hydrachel, Rachel the hyd Yeah, there we go.

1309
01:13:48.479 --> 01:13:54.239
But but so like Felicity drinks drink sum and she

1310
01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:56.920
just kind of powers through it, you know whatever, because

1311
01:13:56.920 --> 01:14:00.560
she's fucking weird as shit already we've established that, yeah. Uh,

1312
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:03.239
but then she gives it to Ashley, and Ashley they

1313
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:07.399
really depict how much of a struggle it is for

1314
01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:08.000
her to.

1315
01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:11.359
Sweeah, because she's just like plugging her nose and like

1316
01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:15.479
all like look, well and Felicity, I don't think that

1317
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:16.359
it's necessary.

1318
01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:20.000
She's like pouring giant amountains in the mouths too. I

1319
01:14:20.039 --> 01:14:24.079
don't know if that's actually necessary, but you're drowning it. Yeah,

1320
01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:27.600
but apparently it might be. So it's it's so we

1321
01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:30.199
get to watch her like gagging and struggling, but she

1322
01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:34.159
is really trying to swallow this. Yeah, because clearly something

1323
01:14:34.239 --> 01:14:36.760
crazy is going on. Oh and I think that we

1324
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:41.159
forgot the stomach room on their stomach and on their

1325
01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:43.000
stomach and it glows. It makes their stomachs like move it.

1326
01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:46.239
It freaks them out a little bit. So, like I said,

1327
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:49.439
a lot happened. But then when they get to h

1328
01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:50.760
to James.

1329
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:53.399
He's like, cannot do it, but I can't.

1330
01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:55.600
He just can't do it. And the worst part, she's

1331
01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:58.079
like forcing him to, like she like makes it grosser too.

1332
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:01.520
It's yeah, like Ashley has to hold it his head open, yeah, like.

1333
01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:05.399
Hold his nose and stuff. So eventually, and this is

1334
01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:09.960
where the wheels, the wheels don't leave the car, they

1335
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:15.279
leave the state. He ends up puking back up the

1336
01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:18.000
blood and the way they depicted his legs because like

1337
01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:19.359
oh no, no, no, no, no, no, you know, like

1338
01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:22.880
he pukes it back up, which would cancel out the

1339
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:25.920
ritual they'd done. But not only does it cancel out

1340
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:31.119
the ritual, it splashes Ashley in the face and burns

1341
01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:36.840
her face off. Yeah, like a like acid Yeah, which, yeah,

1342
01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:43.760
why did it do that, mad chick? I mean it's

1343
01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:49.239
it's it's perfect. Yeah, so ridiculous. And now Felissa Tie

1344
01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:53.399
is super pissed. Yeah, that ruined that killed the the

1345
01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:56.239
ritual they were going to do. So now it just

1346
01:15:56.319 --> 01:16:01.319
kind of becomes every man for themselves and do you

1347
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:04.239
want to you want to talk about like because because

1348
01:16:04.279 --> 01:16:08.159
we're now we're barreling toward the conclusion, which is the

1349
01:16:08.439 --> 01:16:12.920
best friggin part of this movie. Yeah. Really, So.

1350
01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:17.640
They run off, they scatter, it's just Felicity and James.

1351
01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:21.920
Felicity runs towards the lake and she's trying to get

1352
01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:25.920
a boat off the more and James like finally comes

1353
01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:29.760
up and he comes up to her and he's just

1354
01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:35.119
standing around while she's trying to get the boat like undone.

1355
01:16:35.399 --> 01:16:36.800
That's one of my favorite parts. She keeps trying to

1356
01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:38.760
lift the boat up and he's just standing there. He

1357
01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:40.520
never won, but she never asks him to help.

1358
01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:40.600
You.

1359
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:41.720
Yeah, it's really funny.

1360
01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:44.359
It's it's great because you're right, she could have asked,

1361
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:46.680
but also like you'd feel like, if you want to

1362
01:16:46.720 --> 01:16:48.159
get away, you'd help.

1363
01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:51.000
I think she didn't ask because the audience, they knew

1364
01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:52.960
the audience are sitting there going like, why is any helping,

1365
01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:55.359
like help, so like by not even having her ask

1366
01:16:55.439 --> 01:16:56.760
it like keeps the eyes going.

1367
01:16:56.680 --> 01:16:59.359
What the hell, like come on, damn it man. Well,

1368
01:16:59.560 --> 01:17:05.399
so she sees that shard of glass that was there

1369
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:08.880
at the beginning, so she grabs it. She stabs him

1370
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:11.439
in the shoulder and then punches him in the gut

1371
01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:15.880
and says, this is for Ashley. And in the distance,

1372
01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:18.680
we can hear an ambulance because they did call nine

1373
01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:20.199
one one earlier, right before.

1374
01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:22.039
They got in the cabin, because they even made a

1375
01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:23.760
joke they said they'll be twenty five minutes, like so

1376
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:25.880
an hour, yeah, like at least.

1377
01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:29.720
At least so she can she can hear the sirens

1378
01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:33.960
in the distance. There's a slim bit of hope that

1379
01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:39.439
maybe she can she can get it out. She runs,

1380
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:43.479
uh and gets away in the boat and James flees

1381
01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:46.680
to the woods. But as he's out in the woods,

1382
01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:50.399
there's a nice reunion with his friend Pete.

1383
01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:52.800
Oh yeah, yeah, he finds old Pete.

1384
01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:58.960
Finds finds old Pete and uh Felicity sneaks up on

1385
01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:05.119
him and she grabs the spyglass from Pete, knocks James

1386
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:08.039
to the ground and shoves it in his mouth and

1387
01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:11.840
like curb stomps it through his through his throat. So,

1388
01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:14.680
like I said at the beginning, everything like almost everything

1389
01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:16.399
has some sort of payoff.

1390
01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:20.359
Well, yeah, and the Christie character is now just like really,

1391
01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:24.560
I mean, we got a hint of her bizarre strength

1392
01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:29.239
when she slammed the sleeping bag into the tree. But

1393
01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:32.720
she's just I mean, she can just French things right

1394
01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:37.479
through you, getting really Yeah, it's like shocking how like

1395
01:18:37.680 --> 01:18:42.199
strong she is. She has like this impossible demonic strength

1396
01:18:42.319 --> 01:18:46.560
that makes her very formidable. But like, but all the

1397
01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:51.119
while she is just a naked woman covered in blood.

1398
01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:55.119
Like that's the literally the creature the whole time, which

1399
01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:58.079
is which is just a brilliant audacity. And I guess

1400
01:18:58.119 --> 01:19:00.159
that's kind of when I was talking about cliche that

1401
01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:03.199
they're commenting on, I kind of felt like that was

1402
01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:09.279
an extra comment because of the because in twenty sixteen,

1403
01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:14.199
this is a very controversial opinion I have. In twenty sixteen,

1404
01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:20.119
the nudity and horror movies kind of concept was dying. Yeah,

1405
01:19:20.960 --> 01:19:23.560
and I would know I was making horror movies in

1406
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:25.960
that time period, and I at one point I did

1407
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:31.159
one without nudity and the movie did great, and it

1408
01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:34.439
slowly became a little bit more of a hindrance than

1409
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:37.760
a help sometimes because of streaming and da da da da.

1410
01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:42.039
So part of me thought, as somebody who once did

1411
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:46.279
a movie with a topless ghost that was actually evil

1412
01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:49.520
in Haunted House, AND's already row. I thought that having

1413
01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:52.039
the kill the monster be a just a naked woman

1414
01:19:52.199 --> 01:19:54.399
was kind of a middle finger to that, well, not

1415
01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:56.760
a middle finger, but you know, kind of a laughing

1416
01:19:56.840 --> 01:19:58.840
at that cliche by go, yeah, well then the killer

1417
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:01.720
will just be a naked woman. Yeah. I don't know,

1418
01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:02.920
that's just my take.

1419
01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:07.359
No, No, I have to agree because in horror movies,

1420
01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:09.680
like you said, it is a cliche. You just have

1421
01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:18.479
like gratuitous nudity and monsters and killers. But this one says, okay,

1422
01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:21.159
so what if they were the same thing? Yeah, which

1423
01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:23.880
is kind of fun. It's a fun concept to play with.

1424
01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:26.079
I mean, if you're like fun, I guess it's fine.

1425
01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:26.439
Yeah.

1426
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:30.479
Well, we're gonna take a break because a showdown is

1427
01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:33.840
about to begin as we head into the big finale

1428
01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:35.720
of the film right after this.

1429
01:20:48.079 --> 01:20:53.600
So we're down to just Felicity, Felicity and Christy. Sirens

1430
01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:57.520
are approaching in the distance. Felicita is kind of like

1431
01:20:58.039 --> 01:21:02.279
trying to make her way to the road and she

1432
01:21:02.439 --> 01:21:05.640
still got that shard of glass. She finally makes it

1433
01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:09.520
to one of the ambulances, but as she gets there,

1434
01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:13.199
she realizes, oh no, Christie got there first.

1435
01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:16.039
Yeah, once she gets close to the ambulance, it's just

1436
01:21:16.319 --> 01:21:19.000
covered in blood, not even not a little bit, like

1437
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:21.920
it's completely the least shield is nothing but blood. Yeah,

1438
01:21:22.279 --> 01:21:25.079
which I also felt was kind of a joke about,

1439
01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:27.600
you know, the lack of subtlety. Yeah.

1440
01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:32.840
So there's a showdown between like a nice cat fight

1441
01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:38.000
between these two, and like Felicity's holding her own, she

1442
01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:40.479
does like manage to slash and stab.

1443
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:44.920
Yeah, and that Christy I totally forgot when sorry, when

1444
01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:48.760
when she first runs off, Felicitae first runs off, she

1445
01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:51.079
does draw a different rune on her stomach than the

1446
01:21:51.159 --> 01:21:53.680
one she had in there, which I'm guessing has something

1447
01:21:53.720 --> 01:21:55.960
to do with the WTF that we're getting that we're

1448
01:21:55.960 --> 01:21:58.159
gonna Yeah, I just want to mention that because like

1449
01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:00.359
she drew the one that I think was what was

1450
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:04.119
on the guy's stomach initially or something. I can't remember now,

1451
01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:05.880
but I remember it wasn't the one that was originally

1452
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:06.439
on her stomach.

1453
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:07.560
She she drew a new one.

1454
01:22:07.640 --> 01:22:09.600
Yeah, Yeah, so she drew no one.

1455
01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:14.119
They get into a fight there and Felicity stabs Christy

1456
01:22:14.720 --> 01:22:17.279
and it seems like she may get the upper hand,

1457
01:22:17.359 --> 01:22:21.600
but then Christy just like beats her in the head mercilessly.

1458
01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:24.920
It's it's a fine the final example of that. Christy

1459
01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:27.920
has like unlimited strength. Yeah, you know that. This is

1460
01:22:28.039 --> 01:22:31.720
just beyond it. And at this point Felicity has kind

1461
01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:33.960
of become the character. Well she's only one alive, but

1462
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:38.199
she's kind of become the character. And it doesn't last

1463
01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:38.680
very long.

1464
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:45.159
No, because well, Christy, with her supernatural strength, manages to

1465
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:48.880
knock Felicity down, grabs her by her head and lifts

1466
01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:51.800
her up and rips her head in half.

1467
01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:53.880
I don't think she lifts her up. I think you're

1468
01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:55.840
confusing that with earlier when he lifted that guy up.

1469
01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:58.039
She gets on the top of herle she's on the ground,

1470
01:22:58.279 --> 01:23:00.399
but her head off straight and half No, no, no, no,

1471
01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:03.079
I don't not try to cheapen it. She like pulls

1472
01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:05.520
on either side and just there's half a head in

1473
01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:10.680
each hand. Yeah, it's ridiculous, and it does work very

1474
01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:16.560
well as like a punctuation of this horrific violent thing

1475
01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:21.800
that's going on. Yeah, but lord, where this is going.

1476
01:23:21.720 --> 01:23:25.840
So but Felicity, Okay, she's dead, she's dead on the

1477
01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:31.520
ground and Christie's lumbering off. But that roune, that Felicity

1478
01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:35.000
had just put on her stomach. It glows and its

1479
01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:35.800
lights up.

1480
01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:36.279
Yeah.

1481
01:23:36.319 --> 01:23:41.960
Okay. So then we see Christy like wandering and lumbering

1482
01:23:42.199 --> 01:23:43.960
into a neighbor's yard.

1483
01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:45.760
And it was actually a house we had seen the

1484
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:47.880
first house we saw at the beginning when the guys

1485
01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:50.920
were delivering mail. Yeah, they went by that house first

1486
01:23:51.680 --> 01:23:54.000
when they were looking for the Christie house.

1487
01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:57.159
So that was just a cool like, yeah, everything comes

1488
01:23:57.199 --> 01:23:58.960
full circle and it has a payoff, and she.

1489
01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:02.279
Starts slowly lumbering toward them like she's going to, you know,

1490
01:24:02.439 --> 01:24:08.399
continue this massacre. Yeah, and then I'll let you start

1491
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:11.199
because this I'm not kidding guys. When we saw this

1492
01:24:11.319 --> 01:24:13.359
in the theater, I thought like, yeah, this is all right.

1493
01:24:13.439 --> 01:24:15.000
Oh that's kind of dumb. Oh this is all right,

1494
01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:17.560
that's kind of dumb. And then when that ending happened,

1495
01:24:18.039 --> 01:24:21.520
I was like, Okay, holy crap. I kind of loved

1496
01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:24.960
that because that was so nuts. But it but it fits,

1497
01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:28.000
it fitits none of it's lazy. That's the part that

1498
01:24:28.199 --> 01:24:32.880
is so great. They're establishing a reality that is truly

1499
01:24:33.079 --> 01:24:36.000
bonkers or cuckoo bananas, depending on what part of the

1500
01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:41.680
country you're from. Calm down, hold wait, oh, I didn't

1501
01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:43.840
have my I didn't have my bleep ready to stop

1502
01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:46.600
you from from ruining the show. You know, I swear

1503
01:24:46.600 --> 01:24:52.199
at the start there we go, I'm not gonna but

1504
01:24:53.159 --> 01:24:56.840
but no. So but they established this crazy world with

1505
01:24:56.960 --> 01:24:59.880
these crazy rules, and they do follow it to some extent.

1506
01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:03.039
They just don't reveal everything all at once. Yes, so

1507
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:07.439
when things feel random, they kind of aren't. Yeah, that's

1508
01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:11.000
just my take on it. But so so Yeah.

1509
01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:16.079
So she's lumbering covered in blood and there is kind

1510
01:25:16.119 --> 01:25:19.079
of a little sense of dread because we understand what

1511
01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:21.479
she's capable of. Now I assume this is just the

1512
01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:24.720
this is set up. Yeah, how it goes?

1513
01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:26.119
Yeah, the downbeat ending.

1514
01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:30.720
Yeah, but she kind of like moans and clutches her

1515
01:25:30.880 --> 01:25:34.479
stomach and hunches over and then falls to the ground,

1516
01:25:35.079 --> 01:25:39.560
lays on her back, and then a hand reaches out

1517
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:40.600
of her vagina.

1518
01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:44.520
Well it's built up. She seems to be going into labor. Yeah,

1519
01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:47.920
it's not. It's not like it's built there's build in it.

1520
01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:51.399
But yeah, yeah, but I mean, so what I'm saying, guys,

1521
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:54.439
is not that Rachel is wrong about the hand coming

1522
01:25:54.520 --> 01:25:59.199
out of this woman's Vahma, what I'm saying is she

1523
01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:03.119
falls on the and starts like going into labor and

1524
01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:05.840
then a hand And I don't beat a baby's hand.

1525
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:08.159
That's why Rachel said that like a hand. It's because

1526
01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:11.239
it's a grown up hand, like a grown ass adult hand. Yes,

1527
01:26:11.399 --> 01:26:16.560
well not an ass, but yes, a hand comes out

1528
01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:23.880
all bloody. Christie's labored in pain, and then a head,

1529
01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:28.159
a human head, starts coming out and it's a woman. Yeah,

1530
01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:29.279
and she's like.

1531
01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:34.680
Screaming and naked, naked and just like being born.

1532
01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:39.079
I mean, she's literally ripping out of Christie's body entirely.

1533
01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:41.920
At this point, she's clearly killing killing Christie.

1534
01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:45.680
Yeah, yeah, kills Christy as she's coming out, and then

1535
01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:47.720
it just cuts.

1536
01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:52.640
There's but you well, the thing that made this stick

1537
01:26:52.840 --> 01:26:56.000
wasn't just that that happens. It's that when she finally

1538
01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:58.039
like gets out and kind of falls over on Christie's

1539
01:26:58.039 --> 01:27:02.800
dead body, you realize it's melicit tag yeah, like and

1540
01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:07.039
she's literally like it's it's felicity. So she literally goes

1541
01:27:07.079 --> 01:27:08.840
like ah. And when she makes that last sound, you

1542
01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:12.880
really you hear her like southern he like ah. And

1543
01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:17.000
then it cuts and then tonight she comes comes up

1544
01:27:17.039 --> 01:27:19.439
on the screen in in a in a cursive font

1545
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:22.880
and they play like a love song, which I love

1546
01:27:22.960 --> 01:27:26.119
that they did that. That's such a great touch. But yes,

1547
01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:29.399
that and that is the moment that I went, holy crap, this,

1548
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:33.159
this is this is so brilliant. So she had apparently

1549
01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:37.960
we can only assume, had used the half committed curse

1550
01:27:38.399 --> 01:27:43.279
to make herself be reborn out of Christy. That's that, yeah,

1551
01:27:43.359 --> 01:27:43.680
I guess.

1552
01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:46.199
And it and it totally makes sense because like, oh

1553
01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:48.960
doesn't it well as much as the rest of it

1554
01:27:49.199 --> 01:27:55.960
made sense. I mean, but no, because the whole when

1555
01:27:55.960 --> 01:27:58.920
they're when they're all stuck together with the family in

1556
01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:03.239
the ritual scene, it does feel like you get enough

1557
01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:06.920
pieces of the logic and the rules of the magic

1558
01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:12.560
that when this grand finale happens, you're just like, Okay, yeah,

1559
01:28:13.159 --> 01:28:16.479
of course this is Why would I assume it would

1560
01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:17.880
play out any other way?

1561
01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:23.079
Well, and again, it's like nothing is cheap about it.

1562
01:28:24.680 --> 01:28:27.279
Something bursting out of her and then it being Felicity

1563
01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:30.359
is also kind of nice because by the time she dies,

1564
01:28:30.439 --> 01:28:33.640
you kind of are rooting for her finally, and rooting

1565
01:28:33.720 --> 01:28:34.680
for anybody finally.

1566
01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:35.159
Yeh.

1567
01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:37.680
So it's kind of cool that she's back. But it

1568
01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:39.800
also just makes you go like, wow, I really still

1569
01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:43.279
don't have a clue how this whole world works that

1570
01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:46.920
they've built. Well. Yeah, so I loved it. It made

1571
01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:49.319
me happy because it wasn't like there have been a

1572
01:28:49.359 --> 01:28:50.840
lot of movies I don't want to name them, kaudn't

1573
01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:52.199
want to be negative, but like a couple of more

1574
01:28:52.239 --> 01:28:55.199
recently a twenty four ish movies where they did some

1575
01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:57.359
big twist at the end that like just came from nothing.

1576
01:28:57.479 --> 01:29:00.319
Like I was like, oh, okay, I mean yeah, but

1577
01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:02.840
like I didn't really feel like it was that earned. Yeah,

1578
01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:04.199
Like I was just kind of like, oh, yeah, that

1579
01:29:04.319 --> 01:29:07.680
is unexpected the end. And that's the worst thing you

1580
01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:11.760
can do is have a big mystery and then be

1581
01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:15.000
so worried about it being a surprise that you don't.

1582
01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:19.800
It's not satisfying. It's just the least expected. Yeah, is

1583
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:23.159
the only goal you have there with this. When that happened,

1584
01:29:23.199 --> 01:29:25.159
I was like, No, that adds up to everything I've

1585
01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:28.960
seen in the movie, all of the psychotic like satanic stuff,

1586
01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:33.399
all the rebirth conversation, all the references to virgins and

1587
01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:36.479
non virgins and rebirth and and blood, and the whole

1588
01:29:36.600 --> 01:29:39.800
like drawing on your womb and stuff like that's all

1589
01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:42.760
in that. I bet if we really sat and tried

1590
01:29:42.800 --> 01:29:44.880
to pull it apart, we could probably figure out more.

1591
01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:48.760
I'm sure we could, because I was curious, like she

1592
01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:51.079
changed your stomach to I think the drawing that she

1593
01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:55.279
had on it from the guy. Yeah, So I'm wondering

1594
01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:58.119
if maybe her if like she hadn't told them, which

1595
01:29:58.199 --> 01:30:02.359
honestly would have been perfect if she hadn't told him, Like, oh, well,

1596
01:30:02.399 --> 01:30:05.600
what's gonna happen is like, once this ritual starts, you're

1597
01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:08.600
gonna die. But then she'll give birth to you and

1598
01:30:08.680 --> 01:30:10.600
that'll kill her and then we'll be That wouldn't even

1599
01:30:10.640 --> 01:30:12.439
surprise me. That would be like he'd be like, what

1600
01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:14.520
did she be like, just don't worry about it, just

1601
01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:16.680
we're gonna die, and then she'll give birth to you.

1602
01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:19.279
Well I'm gonna be a baby, and she's like, just

1603
01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:20.000
do what.

1604
01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:20.640
I would tell you.

1605
01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:24.159
Yeah, Like that would work though, That would make sense. Yeah,

1606
01:30:24.279 --> 01:30:27.760
in the movie, the sense of the movie exactly. I

1607
01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:30.279
have a feeling we have a bit more to say

1608
01:30:30.319 --> 01:30:31.760
about this. So we're gonna take a quick break and

1609
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:34.159
when we get back, we're gonna we're gonna peel back

1610
01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:38.479
some more layers of tonight. She comes right.

1611
01:30:38.399 --> 01:30:55.880
After this, so you'd mentioned that. Toward the end, especially

1612
01:30:55.960 --> 01:31:00.600
when we get to like the final act, we start

1613
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:02.880
rooting for Felicity.

1614
01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:07.520
To some extent because yeah, because when you had said earlier,

1615
01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:09.680
I feel like you said something about her earlier that

1616
01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:12.720
I wanted to comment on. You said something like she's

1617
01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:17.680
the only reasonable, she's like the most comp and yes,

1618
01:31:17.840 --> 01:31:21.439
but she's also crazier than hell, oh my god. Yeah,

1619
01:31:22.119 --> 01:31:26.000
and in part because she's literally like a weird caricature

1620
01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:29.079
of like a redneck, and in part because she understands

1621
01:31:29.079 --> 01:31:30.560
all this crazy shit that's crazy.

1622
01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:33.800
Yeah. Well, what's what's the old quote, like in an

1623
01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:38.720
insane world, only the sane or insane or something.

1624
01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:39.359
Something something like that.

1625
01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:42.880
Right, So, yeah, like she's the most well adjusted person

1626
01:31:43.560 --> 01:31:47.239
in an absolutely batshit world, which means she is herself

1627
01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:49.079
by extension batshit.

1628
01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:54.119
Oh I mean, she's maybe beyond that shit, but yeah, yeah, no,

1629
01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:56.359
I'm with you. But yeah, so you do start to

1630
01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:59.640
kind of cheer for her because everything she says seems

1631
01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:04.119
to work like it doesn't like, it doesn't appear she's

1632
01:32:04.159 --> 01:32:06.960
a crank. No, you know, and like that moment when

1633
01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:09.439
her eyes glowed all craziestuff kind of makes you go, Okay,

1634
01:32:09.520 --> 01:32:11.439
so like this magic is a real thing and she

1635
01:32:11.640 --> 01:32:13.039
clearly knows something about it.

1636
01:32:13.319 --> 01:32:18.079
Yeah, you know, and she's clearly got like a sense

1637
01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:20.840
of morals because she's the one who was like standing

1638
01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:23.960
up for James and Ashley. Yeah, she's also the one

1639
01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:27.760
who got upset on Ashley's behalf that James kind of

1640
01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:31.960
like accidentally led to her death. Yeah, so she you know,

1641
01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:36.680
she's a very interesting character that way for sure. But

1642
01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:42.399
it did make me wonder this second watch. Is there

1643
01:32:42.479 --> 01:32:45.560
a traditional protagonist in this movie?

1644
01:32:46.359 --> 01:32:50.239
Oh? No, not at all. I actually think that that's

1645
01:32:50.319 --> 01:32:54.279
part of their cliche game. Yeah, is they keep handing

1646
01:32:54.359 --> 01:33:00.640
you obvious protagonists that don't be the protagonist? Yes, because initially,

1647
01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:03.159
like you meet the girls, so then you think maybe

1648
01:33:03.359 --> 01:33:05.760
the blonde girl will be the protagonist, because if we

1649
01:33:05.800 --> 01:33:07.760
want to go really deep into horror tropes, if there's

1650
01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:10.800
a white girl and a black girl, traditionally in horror tropes,

1651
01:33:10.800 --> 01:33:14.119
the black girl is going to die. So so we

1652
01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:16.479
have the two girls, but then we meet the buddies

1653
01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:19.239
and we have one guy who seems somewhat serious, although

1654
01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:21.359
he gets weirder as time goes on. And one guy

1655
01:33:21.399 --> 01:33:24.359
who is clearly comic relief. I mean, he's just everything

1656
01:33:24.399 --> 01:33:26.319
he does is smoke weed and tap people in the

1657
01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:30.920
balls and take shits and like masturba. So he's the

1658
01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:35.800
comic relief. So you're getting handed these archetypes that seem

1659
01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:39.319
pretty obvious, and then they kind of run with them.

1660
01:33:40.079 --> 01:33:44.680
So I mean, in a way, once we get Felsa Taie,

1661
01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:49.840
she does become like the main character kind of, but

1662
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:53.199
she also shows up pretty late to be the main character,

1663
01:33:54.039 --> 01:33:57.039
and she does die right at about the end. So

1664
01:33:57.439 --> 01:33:59.680
I mean I would say that, you know, she's the

1665
01:33:59.720 --> 01:34:04.640
cist thing. Yeah, to a protagonist, you've got so an

1666
01:34:04.680 --> 01:34:05.840
import in a storm, I guess.

1667
01:34:07.279 --> 01:34:10.159
And then that also begs the question like is there

1668
01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:15.960
an actual antagonist? Because Christy the Christie Monster in and

1669
01:34:16.079 --> 01:34:20.439
of itself, it's not necessarily a villain because you get

1670
01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:23.920
the sense that it's just it's kind of like a

1671
01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:27.319
construct or a golam. It's just doing what it was

1672
01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:28.000
made to do.

1673
01:34:28.359 --> 01:34:31.039
But that doesn't make it not the villain. Oh okay,

1674
01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:33.359
I mean well, I mean, well not the villain. Sorry, Sorry,

1675
01:34:33.399 --> 01:34:35.079
that doesn't make it not the antagonist.

1676
01:34:35.479 --> 01:34:36.359
I see what you're saying.

1677
01:34:36.479 --> 01:34:39.279
Yeah, because if if you want to go with like that,

1678
01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:43.319
Francis was the villain, Yeah, but he can't be the

1679
01:34:43.359 --> 01:34:47.159
antagonist because he dies like before the halfway mark and

1680
01:34:47.359 --> 01:34:50.199
nothing stops. So that's kind of my point, Like, you

1681
01:34:50.279 --> 01:34:52.199
can have a villain, but he may not be the

1682
01:34:52.279 --> 01:34:55.840
pure antagonist because even he was working to stop the antagonist.

1683
01:34:56.159 --> 01:34:58.880
Ah, that's fair, that's a fair so, but that's the thing.

1684
01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:03.039
A protagonist. Ant Antagonists can be very neutral. Yes, that's

1685
01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:04.680
something that's really important to keep in mind because they're

1686
01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:07.439
not heroes and villains. That's a totally different thing. Because

1687
01:35:07.439 --> 01:35:10.399
an antagonist could be the police trying to arrest the

1688
01:35:10.479 --> 01:35:12.680
serial killer if the serial killer is the is the

1689
01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:14.960
character that the audience is supposed to be identifying with

1690
01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:17.920
exactly so, and that's something that can't but it's easy

1691
01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:21.520
to confuse them because generally those archetypes fit very very

1692
01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:26.520
neatly together. So, but Christy is clearly the antagonist. I mean,

1693
01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:29.520
she just has to be. But the biggest, the biggest

1694
01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:34.399
way to know who or what the antagonist is is

1695
01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:39.720
usually how soon after they die or are defeated or

1696
01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:43.760
what have you. Does the film end, because generally, once

1697
01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:47.000
an antagonist is gone, there's no movie left because there's

1698
01:35:47.039 --> 01:35:49.720
nothing to drive the story. It's not always the case.

1699
01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:52.479
I mean, sometimes you have a resolution that may but oftentimes,

1700
01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:56.760
especially in horror movies, when there's a resolution sequence, it

1701
01:35:57.039 --> 01:35:59.720
ends with a tease that the antagonist is not gone.

1702
01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:00.399
Yeah.

1703
01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:03.239
So generally speaking, I think that's the main reason I

1704
01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:05.640
could be extra confidence because the movie basically ends the

1705
01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:08.000
moment we know Christie's dead. Yeah.

1706
01:36:08.359 --> 01:36:10.960
No, I think you're absolutely right. And I hadn't thought

1707
01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:15.720
about when the movie ending was a good you know, you're.

1708
01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:18.479
Too busy thinking about how crazy the ending was. Yeah. Yeah,

1709
01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:20.760
like like you had to actually think to go, oh yeah,

1710
01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:23.520
Christy dies because you're too busy thinking about how crazy

1711
01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:26.239
it is that forging Felicity crawls out.

1712
01:36:26.159 --> 01:36:27.079
Of her right.

1713
01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:29.840
And I think that's fair. That's why this movie works

1714
01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:31.880
and why we enjoyed this movie so much is because

1715
01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:35.159
it's so bonkers. And I really can't say enough. If

1716
01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:37.199
you guys haven't watched it and you've listened to us

1717
01:36:37.239 --> 01:36:39.640
talk about it this whole way, you can still watch

1718
01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:43.319
it on fandango at home with ads and get plenty

1719
01:36:43.399 --> 01:36:46.840
out of it. Yeah, yeah, because we can't even do

1720
01:36:47.319 --> 01:36:50.560
some of the craziest just But also I think it's

1721
01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:53.840
extra funny that the movie has a totally cut and dry,

1722
01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:58.319
most obvious antagonist ever and then a completely murky concept

1723
01:36:58.359 --> 01:37:00.640
of protagonist. Yeah, that's kind of funny.

1724
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:03.920
Yeah, it is funny. And that's why this movie is

1725
01:37:04.079 --> 01:37:09.479
not lazy at all. Is it was very well written,

1726
01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:12.600
it was very well acted. All of the effects were

1727
01:37:13.119 --> 01:37:15.600
really well done. We're pretty solid, and it does like

1728
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:18.720
as much as you are sitting there going what the fuck,

1729
01:37:19.119 --> 01:37:23.680
what the fuck? What the fuck, it's still like obviously

1730
01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:26.920
makes you think. Like we're sitting here talking about it,

1731
01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:29.960
and it's one of those movies that I've thought about

1732
01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:34.199
consistently for the past ten years. It really leaves an impression.

1733
01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:37.520
It is definitely a hoot. So well, with that all

1734
01:37:37.640 --> 01:37:40.920
being said, before we get out of here, Rachel want

1735
01:37:40.920 --> 01:37:42.960
to tell them what we're watching and talking about.

1736
01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:47.880
Next time, we will be watching The Ritual from twenty seventeen.

1737
01:37:48.279 --> 01:37:51.760
That's right available on Netflix with your subscription, so you

1738
01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:54.760
can check that one out. This is one I remember

1739
01:37:54.920 --> 01:37:59.279
a modest amount about, but you really it stuck with you.

1740
01:37:59.560 --> 01:38:02.119
It really stuck with me. Yeah, I'm excited to visit

1741
01:38:02.199 --> 01:38:06.039
again because I was. I was really like freaked out

1742
01:38:06.119 --> 01:38:06.399
by it.

1743
01:38:06.760 --> 01:38:11.159
Okay, well, there you have it. So on that note,

1744
01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:13.239
my friends, we're gonna get out of here, but we

1745
01:38:14.279 --> 01:38:16.800
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1746
01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:18.640
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1747
01:38:18.680 --> 01:38:22.000
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1748
01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:24.039
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1761
01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:03.600
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1762
01:39:03.720 --> 01:39:07.279
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1763
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