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The haunting origins of Halloween tradition, a wild squirrel on
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the loose, ready to attack the most haunted highway in Scotland,
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and Michelle prefers her corpses mesquite style. Get comfortable, turn
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off the lights. It's Monthly Spooky, all right, my spooky's hello. Hello.
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It is indeed that time of the month. It's the
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only catchphrase that's caught in like three years for this program,
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is it's that time of the month. Sorry deeply. I'm,
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of course Enrique Kutto here with my good buddy and
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Monthly Spooky co host Michelle Shell. I'm not going to
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ask how you're doing, thank you, because we get emails
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of people saying, please stop asking her that it hurts her.
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We can tell yeah, no, no, but we uh but
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I am going to say that there is a mystery
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afoot in your life right now. Yeah, the mystery wall
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your neighbors are building.
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Oh yeah, they're building a wall.
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What when you say a wall, do you mean a fence?
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No, I mean a wall. So they flatten the backyard
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part of it and then they flatten the other part.
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But it's on a slope, so it can't be flat
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really unless they flatten it all the way, It doesn't
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make sense. So then there was a spot where one
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part was way higher than the other part. And then
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they dug a trench and I was like, what is
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the trench for? And then I was like, it's it
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gonna be a wall. So now they're building a wall
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out of CINDERBLOCKX like literal wall.
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Could it have been a mo to not a trench?
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Sure, but now it's filled with cinder blocks, so it's
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not anything.
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It wouldn't be a very good moat.
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Yeah, yeah, it's it's technically a retaining wall. Oh, but
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I just don't understand why it's there and why they
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did that to the backyard. And they seem to be
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filding building some sort of form like for concrete at
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the way back against their fence. I don't know what
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that means. What's gonna happen there.
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I I've been to your house many times and I've
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seen that neighbor's yard. They're like the easiest to see
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from most of the you know, from the living room,
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dining room, stuff like that. I don't I can't think
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of any need for a retaining wall.
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Well there is now that they changed the way the
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backyard slopes.
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Before they're creating jobs, you know, they're keeping themselves employed.
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I guess it might be that. I mean, it's like
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the landlord and just his I guess friends, because they
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only really do it on the weekends. I don't know, Jesus, So.
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I'm very worried.
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Yeah, they knocked down the front porch post columns which
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were made out of laugh, which I thought was really.
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Interesting, made out of what laugh?
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Like laugh that like wood pieces that go under plaster.
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Oh okay, it's constructed out of laugh. And then they
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just stuck up like big just pieces of wood that
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don't look any better or potentially look worse, a lot worse.
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So I'm very confused.
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I am too. I was. I was more excited when
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all you knew is they were digging a hole. Yeah.
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We were hoping they were digging.
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A hole to like hell, yeah.
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That would have been way cooler.
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Yeah. They didn't even really dig a hole. They just
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made it. They just leveled out the backyard.
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Nah, well that's lame.
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Well hmmm, speaking of things that are lame, I don't know.
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That's a horrible transition. I've been slowly but surely putting
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up my Halloween decorations.
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That's good.
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The need for month for a weekly Spooky in October
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as usual is a hell of a lot, and it's
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been very hard to find any other time in the
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day to do much else, especially since albeit Cinema Wasteland
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this weekend this coming weekend, so I have to have
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three days where I'm not recording. But don't worry. Still talking,
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still talking because it's a sales convention, so still talking
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NonStop all day long, So no rest for the voice,
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just you know, just not into a microphone.
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What if you just use the voice thing on chat GPT,
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Oh god, and like you just told it what it
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needed to say when people ask questions.
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Did you hear about sore? They just released the new
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AirPods Pro three okay, and apparently the Airpod's Pro three
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and two, which I'm a huge AirPods pro believer. They
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are going to have a technology from your phone that
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will allow it to hear people talking to you in
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other languages and translate it.
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Really, yeah, it's time.
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It's time.
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It's time for Star.
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Trek, it's time for the Universal Translator. Wow, it's not
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and for real. The only reason that it has to
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be AirPods Pro two or three is that the the
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headset requires a certain amount of processing power in order
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to capture the audio properly. But yeah, it's it's I
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think that feature hasn't been rolled out yet, but it
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will be, like in a couple of months or something.
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H Now I'm checking Apple of Translation. Oh no, it
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it works now. Oh yeah. On the seventeenth of September
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it started.
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Wow, I wonder how good the translations are.
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Me too. I'm gonna have to test it because I
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have AirPods Pro too, so and I'm getting at AirPods
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Pro three because I was like, I shouldn't buy these,
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they're expensive. And then I literally was like, you literally
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use them every single day. Like, of all the tech
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stuff that you use to make your day easier, your
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phone and your AirPods are the only things you're guaranteed
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to use every single day.
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So then I was like, all right, I really do
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like air pods, and these new ones are gonna have
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eight hours of after active noise canceling on one charge.
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That's I think that's phenomenal, eight hours instead of six.
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I don't yeah, I didn't even know it was six before.
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I don't know, all right, fine, pooh pooh. Everything I
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think is cool. Yeah, but yeah, so they'll be translating.
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But yeah, so I've been putting up light which I
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found out something in my neighborhood. I don't know if
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it was a raccoon or a cat or a what
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pulled down a portion of my string lights on my
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gutters squirrel, Probably it could be. It would have to
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be pretty heavy to be able to pull them down
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because they're on hooks that aren't attacked. They're hooked into
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the gutter, so they have to pull really hard to
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get that dislodged. And not only do they pull it,
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but I have my wires. I have the wires on
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my string lights coiled and zip tied so that the
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light bulbs are closer to each other to make them bright.
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it had undone them a bit, which means something had
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to really pull. My first thought was that it was Rachel.
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I was like, Rachel, did you accidentally walk into the
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lights because they're plugged in down below? Did you like
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walking in and actually kind of like trip and you
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didn't want to say anything. You're going to fix it
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or something and she was like no, and I was like, oh, huh.
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So I'm thinking it's got to be something bigger than
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a squirrel because that would take quite a bit of force.
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But unfortunately, now that string of lights doesn't work at
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all because they're water resistant. But the pack, the electronics
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pack on it, is not waterproof. And I had had
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it stuck underneath the awning like against the house, so
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it never got wet because it was like water resistant
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up to a very low amount. So I was like, oh,
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I'll just keep it there. So that's dead. So I
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have to buy an entire new strand of those lights.
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I'm sorry, because you can't buy just the pack because
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the pack is the most expensive thing. Like the lights
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are like barely additional. So but once that's up, I'll
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have my Christmas lights that I can program to like
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flash between orange and purple and stuff, so I can
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have my Halloween spooky lights. And I got my jack
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O lantern face projector projecting on my garage door. And
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I got some zombie head stakes that'll go along the
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walkway to my front of my house, and they have
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motion sensors that they light up and go when you
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walk by them.
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That's pretty cool.
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And at these are great because they run on batteries,
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which I would normally be annoyed by, but it's so
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nice to be able to have the freedom to put
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them somewhere, not right by an outlet. Yeah, although I'll
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probably into putting them right by an outlet. So anyway,
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I'm trying to get my house halloweened up before October
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officially starts. It is like, we're so close to spooky
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season starting, so I thought, why not have our Halloween conversation,
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our our pre Halloween conversation, be about the origins of
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Halloween traditions. And I know we've done a few of
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those kinds of things before, especially the one that was
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all about what was it wool crepe paper? It was
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crepe paper. But I found this really interesting piece from
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the Library of Congress about the origins of Halloween traditions.
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So I figure we'll dig into that. But first we
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got to get to the spooky news after this, all right,
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we're back, But before we get to the thing that
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if I say it it triggers something, we do have
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a news update, which I know you know about because
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like right after our last monthly Spooky recording, they finally
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sentenced Aaron Patterson, the mushroom killer from Australia. And we've
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been following this for months here at Monthly Spooky. It
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took over almost an entire episode of the show. When
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we first found out about this story and started reading
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about it, it was kind of mind blowing. Yeah, yeah,
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so this is a news According to NPR headline is
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the Australian woman who killed her in laws with toxic
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mushrooms gets life in prison. And I appreciate Michelle that
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you told me immediately when you heard, because I wanted
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to hear it from you before anybody else. An Australian
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judge sentenced Aaron Patterson to life in prison on Monday,
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weeks after she was convicted of killing three of her
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estranged husband's elderly relatives with poisonous mushrooms in a home
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cooked meal. And if you guys don't know the story,
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go back on the Monthly Spooky catalog because there is
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so much lore. I'm planning on and maybe in the
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new year doing like a really exhaustive, terrifying and true
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about the whole thing. You should because there's so many
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crazy details and I want to wait till they all
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come out. I mean the court, you know, her saying like, oh,
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I've never even whatever, and they're like, okay, anyway, here's
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like you googling how to forage deadly mushrooms. You know,
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like it's like not quite that well, it might be
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that bad. Actually, some of the stuff I was reading,
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I was like, what on Earth. In July, after a
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nine week trial, a jury found Patterson guilty of three
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counts of murder and one count of attempted murder. On Monday,
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Justice Justice Christopher Beale sentenced the fifty year old mother
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of two to three life sentences plus another twenty five
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years for attempted murder. I threw the book at her.
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Yeah she will be eligible.
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Yeah, she'll be eligible for.
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Parole, I know in thirty three years.
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Yeah, that's bullshit.
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I don't understand how you'd be eligible for parole in
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thirty three years when you got three life sentences plus
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twenty five years.
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I don't understand what.
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their attitude is the likelihood of recidivism is low, Like,
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why would she kill again? Since it was a very
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specific situation and also she'll be eighty two years old
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if she's still alive by the time she gets out
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in twenty fifty six. Yeah, so I guess the attitude
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is like, since she's not a repeat offender, since this
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is her first defense ever, that the likelihood that she'll
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end up back there. You know what, they're just a
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kind nation because they're a nation of convicts. Yeah, imagine
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how bad you had to be to be sent all
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the way to Australia, Like that's really far away to
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originally be a prison colony. I think about that a lot.
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I should actually read about it though, instead of just
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being judgy. But I know we have a few ausy listeners.
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Send us an email, tell me I'm terrible Weekly Spooky
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at gmail dot com. At Monday's hearing, which was broadcast
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live from the Supreme Court of Victoria, Beale delivered a
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summary of the case against Patterson and concluded, quote, the
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gravity of your offending warrants the imposition of the maximum
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penalties for your crimes. That's what I said, ya. Patterson,
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who has maintained her innocence, kept her eyes closed for
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much of the hearing and showed little emotion when Beale
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announced her sentence. Under Australian law. She now has twenty
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eight days until October sixth to file an appeal against
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her sentence, conviction or both. Who In July of twenty
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twenty three, you host Patterson host the four guests for
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lunch at her home and small town in Langanthia. Yeah, yeah,
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Legantha howevery sent it? So it is undisputed that she
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served them individual portions of homemade bef Wellington, a dish
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steak dish wrapped in pastry, usually with a paste of
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finely chopped mushrooms, and as Pattersoners self acknowledged during the trial,
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that paste contained death cap mushrooms, which are among the
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most poisonous in the world.
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All four guests were hospitalized with gastro intestinal symptoms the
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following day, and three of them died. We've talked about
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a lot of this. It's just this story is so nuts.
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Yeah, and her lies are the best. Sorry.
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if we touched on this when we originally talked about it,
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because I was talking to my mom about it. Death
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cap mushrooms are responsible for ninety percent of all mushroom fatalities, so.
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I don't think we had that. I know that they're
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like the most Fatal Mushroom. Yeah, which, by the way,
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would be a great name for our band, Fatal or.
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The most Fatal Mushroom.
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Ooh, kind of like the most it feels more meta.
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Yeah, so anyway, that that is pretty much it. Uh.
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Biale did say Patterson has been quote effectively held in
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solitary confinement for the last fifteen months, and for her
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own protection, could remain that way for years to come
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because of the everybody knowing about this case.
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in prison can be pretty dangerous because it just brings people,
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you know, it makes people aware of you.
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Okay, fine, I'm gonna start making everybody aware of you
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all the time.
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I feel like everyone's aware.
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Of me more. I'll do it more though.
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That is why he decided to make her eligible for
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parole eventually, despite the seriousness of her crime, because of
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the sheer amount of solitary confinement she will likely be
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put through. Okay, solitary confinement's brutal. Yeah, there are tons
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of studies about how like that's just hell on a
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human being's brain.
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That's how I want to go.
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Could you expound on that a little bit? What?
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I don't know. I just really wanted to say.
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That we weren't even talking about a way of dying.
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We were just talking about an experience. Okay, dark Chell, God,
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that was uncomfortable.
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The quote, the harsh prison conditions that you have experienced
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already and the likely prospect of solitary confinement for the
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foreseeable future are important and weighty considerations which should count
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for something in the sentencing exercise. He said, Okay, so yeah,
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so that's I mean, that's pretty much it. Oh. She
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did later testify that, oh wait, no, no, sorry for
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a saying I thought she'd finally admitted that she said
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she had cancer. She did not. So I'm just skimming
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it to make sure there's nothing I hadn't because there's
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a lot of stuff we've already talked about in this article,
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but most importantly life in prison, three charge for three
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murders plus twenty five years.
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Wow.
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Honestly, like, I was afraid that they I was afraid
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they were going to somehow be like, oh, it's criminally
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negligent homicide or something, when it's like so clear she
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killed those people.
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Yeah, yeah, no on purpose. I was confident that it
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would work out.
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You have a lot of confidence in the legal.
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System, Australian legal system.
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Is it because they still wear wigs?
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I assume yeah, because that's a big deal.
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It makes a difference, damn it, it does. Well, we're
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gonna come back and then we'll actually jump into the
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uh stuff right after this. All right, without any further ado, Michelle,
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would you like to do the honors?
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No, it's okay.
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It's not that you turn it down. It's that you
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are so happy to you just had like you went
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from like a like a basic you know, resting face,
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too huge smile and said, no, no, it's yours. I
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don't know if that was your thrill at like putting
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me off, or if it was your thrill at like
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not accepting kindness for yourself. They're all good answers.
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He mean, it's both of those things.
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You're a very multifaceted individual. I'll give you that. But
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it's time for the spooky news. The spooky news and
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shell I'm feeling nostalgic because Halloween time always makes me nostalgic.
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I think that that's my favorite thing about holidays. You know,
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you think about the past ones, you get a little nostalgic.
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So we're starting this month with a story from Mirror
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dot co dot UK.
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Wow, it's been a while.
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Let's hope it's not a commercial. That's like, every time
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we do a Mirror dot Code at UK, I'm like,
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please don't be a commercial for something.
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Mm hmm.
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And I've had We've had a few British and UK
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listeners right in and say that, Yeah, Mirror dot Code
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at UK, they all make fun of it, so that's good.
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They enjoy when we when we take the piss out
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of Mirror dot Code at UK. Good headline is UK's
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most haunted road, where phantom trucks have caused real life crashes.
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Oh no, yeah, sounds spooky, right.
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It definitely sounds like stuff.
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Well, roads at night get very effortlessly get creepy. I
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would say, well, I mean, have you never been creeped
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out when you're driving all alone at night?
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No. I think we've talked about this in the past,
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and I just don't really get it. I don't really
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think roads are creepy at night.
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I mean I like driving at night, so I'm not
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saying that like all I ever do when I'm on
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a highways or a dark road is go like ooh, scared.
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But okay, maybe sometimes scared. But I do find sometimes
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like certain stretches of road for whatever reason, just kind
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of feel a little creepier at night. Not all of them,
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by any stretch. Most interstates feel totally fine, you know,
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it's just like, oh yeah, but every now and then,
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like when I would drive to Georgia through the night.
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I used to have to do that a lot. There's
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a stretch through North Carolina that's just back roads, it's
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not interstate, and it can be pretty in the daytime
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it is so beautiful. Yeah, at night it is creepy
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as hell.
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I just don't find roads creepy.
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Be sorry, fine, okay, I'm the I'm stupid. That's what
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you're what you're saying.
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You win, you win win.
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Across the UK, there are roads with reputations that could
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make even the most experienced driver second guess a late
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night journey. That's you, I don't think so. Ghostly figures
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appearing from nowhere, phantom vehicles, and unexplained accidents that have
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been reported by drivers for decades, making some stretches of
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tarmac notoriously haunted.
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I mean, if I got into an accident, it would
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be very convenient to blame it on the ghost car.
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That's a really good point. I'm with you on that,
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that that would be incredibly convenient. Yeah, that's a fair point.
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The rural lanes to bustling motorways are from rural lanes
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to bustling motorways. These spectral encounters have become part of
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local lore. Below overco oh it below overco and online
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marketplaces part places, free my God, Mirra Dakota, UK get
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a copy editor below. Ovoco, an online marketplace it says
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places for used car parts, has compiled a list of
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the UK's most haunted roads where driving at night can
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be an experience that's equal parts eerie and unnerving.
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Ooh.
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At the top of the list is A seventy five.
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I'm guessing that's how they label there highways I don't
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actually know, dubbed Scotland's most haunted road, the A seventy
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five want winds through? I guess that is a spell wine. Wait, no,
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that's wins isn't wind with an h oh boy, we're
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gonna we're all gonna don't think an h in it.
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You're probably right. I just read I don't write. The
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A seventy five winds through Dumbfreeze and Galloway and has
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a history of bizarre sightings. Drivers have reported phantom trucks
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appearing out of nowhere, ghostly pedestrians stepping onto the tarmac,
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and spectral animals darting across the road. Okay, spectral animals.
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Note animals always dart out of the road. Yeah, out
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of nowhere. Yeah, that's always how that works.
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Yeah, And pedestrians sometimes go on the road.
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Too, they do.
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And sometimes trucks just appear.
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I don't think that part's true.
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Are you sure you don't think trucks just kind of
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phase in and out of reality as a part of
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their normal thing that they're doing.
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I can't say that. I do think that really Yeah maybe.
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I mean I don't know how to explain this to you.
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You know, sometimes they're in one place, then they go
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through the thing, and then they're in another place.
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Unrelated question, do you have a carbon monoxide detector?
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I have three carbon monoxide detectors.
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None of them working, yes, all of them. Because I
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was tired of all that beeping distracting me from my theories. Yeah,
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I do want to mention quick plug. A couple weeks
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ago or last week actually, on Terrifying and True, I
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did a story about America's spook hollow roads, which I
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thought was really fun, which is basically the concept of
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a very American tradition of haunted roadways. I really recommend
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to listen to that, and if you like that, my
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deep dive into the urban legend resurrection Mary out of
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Chicago one of my favorite episodes I've ever done of
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Terrifying and True. Really love diving into the folklore. I
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can get a little squeamish with the true crime stuff,
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so I need the folklore to cleanse my palate. It's
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a lot more fun, Yeah, because you know if it
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says like and then I'm killed this whole family. Yeah,
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but that was a long time ago. It's fine. Yeah,
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those over one hundred years ago. Who cares. I didn't
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know him, But yeah, it's fine. It's fine. It's better.
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One chilling story that may be more rumor than the
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stuff written into Traffic Scotland's Traffic Scotland's Archives involves two
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truck drivers who crashed into what they thought was an
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oncoming lory, only to find nothing but an empty road
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when they.
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Recovered huh they used truck and lory they did in
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the same sentence, I I'm scared.
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This is the scariest part. Is just British English?
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Yeah.
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The A seventy five has inspired claims of supernatural encounters
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for centuries, making night driving here an unnerving experience for
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those inclined to believe in the paranormal. Several years ago,
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John Hill of Mostly Ghostly Paranormal Investigators decided to research
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the road and its spooky reputation. He claimed that he
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unearthed so many ghostly encounters on the tarmac length that
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it is well deserving of the most haunted road in
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Scotland and some say all of Britain title. Mister Hill
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and Mostly Ghostly founder Kathleen Crony held the first ever
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ghost coach tour of the road back in twenty thirteen,
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offering a guided tour of its most spine chilling sites.
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Might be becoming.
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A commercial kind of sounds like it.
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Miss Croney told the BBC that one of the most
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infamous sightings was made by Derek and Norman Ferguson in
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nineteen sixty two. Quote they were driving along here, and
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the whole incident began with a large hen flying towards
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the windscreen of their car. Windscreen of their car, she said.
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Then they witnessed great cats and various other creatures, as
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well as witnessing a phantom furniture van, which is a
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bit unusual, to say the least, not according to Michelle, it's.
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Not well, no, I no van, No, it was trucks.
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Vans would be weird if a ban just came out
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of nowhere.
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I guess that's a fair point. Yeah, all right, well
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we'll we'll learn a little bit more about this haunted
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roadway right after this. All right, we're back looking at
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the story of the Scottish the most haunted Scottish road,
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according to these jimmokes, According to those who worked on
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the road, lorry drivers would regularly report seeing groups of dejected,
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bedraggled people. What is with the language, and this is
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so British. I feel like it's not normally so we
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don't usually hear be draggled Like I didn't say it
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was a bad word, said, I don't expect that. Yeah,
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bedraggled people pulling hand carts, other translucent figures carried bundles.
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Bob Sturgeon used to run a snack van on the
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A seventy five. A snack van. I'm guessing it's a
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van full of snacks.
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Ah maybe or it's a man made of snacks.
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Oh, that sounds delicious, A job that put him in
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regular contact with the HGV drivers who went up and
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down it. He claimed that one lorry driver had quit
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the industry after seeing a gaggle of ghosts on the road.
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The language is a little funny, yeah. Quote. He had
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been parked on the kin Mount Strait and he had
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woken up at three in the morning and he saw
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this parade of people. He said that it went on
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for ages and he had just frozen. He was in
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an awful state, mister Sturgeon said. Scottish Paranormal, An investigation
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involved in scotland spookier happened and invest in organizations Sorry
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involved in Scotland's spookier happenings, has compiled the list of
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the alleged sightings along the A seventy five and the
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characters that seem to appear multiple times. They also report
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large groups of ghosts walking along the roads, but of
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a different sort and from a different time. Well, it'd
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be weird if the ghosts were from the future.
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They didn't say what time they were. Oh, so maybe
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they are the future.
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I mean, oh wow, this is going really far back.
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Quote travel back in time and envision a ghostly legion
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of Romans marching along the A seventy five, visible only
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from the knees up, a stark reminder of the land's
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evolving topography, and a haunting connection to Scotland's ancient past51200:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.559
Scottish paranormal rites. Wow, so they're going all the way51300:29:52.599 --> 00:29:52.920
to Rome.51400:29:53.000 --> 00:29:58.119
Okay, so I assume that the A seventy five has51500:29:58.160 --> 00:29:59.839
been around since Roman time.51600:30:01.200 --> 00:30:03.039
I mean my guess would be that it's just that51700:30:03.119 --> 00:30:05.279
it may have been like some kind of a thorough51800:30:05.559 --> 00:30:08.119
like a you know, dirt roads or yeah. Yeah, but51900:30:08.319 --> 00:30:09.160
path of some sort.52000:30:09.359 --> 00:30:11.319
It would still have to exist, otherwise it would make52100:30:11.359 --> 00:30:13.240
no sense for people to deep walking up.52200:30:13.359 --> 00:30:15.440
It's probably just made up. Yeah, it's priab just made up.52300:30:15.599 --> 00:30:16.240
Yeah.52400:30:16.319 --> 00:30:20.799
Another alarming character is that of the old game keeper,52500:30:21.759 --> 00:30:23.960
who is said to appear at the side of the52600:30:24.039 --> 00:30:28.720
road with a rifle, watching the vehicles driving by, before52700:30:28.759 --> 00:30:33.119
suddenly disappearing. Okay, that sounds creepy.52800:30:33.319 --> 00:30:35.359
Could just be some guy, but could just be a.52900:30:35.319 --> 00:30:37.279
Guy who still has a rifle somehow.53000:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.000
Yeah.53100:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.839
Those who put off by who are put off by53200:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.359
the sound of the above and are considering making a53300:30:45.480 --> 00:30:49.799
lengthy diversion to skip a seventy five need not worry.53400:30:50.319 --> 00:30:54.720
Ghosts are not real. That's the last. That's mirror dot53500:30:54.720 --> 00:30:59.240
code at UK A fascinating experience. I've ever so confused. Yeah,53600:31:00.200 --> 00:31:00.519
but I.53700:31:00.480 --> 00:31:07.480
Did learn that in the UK, like in California, they53800:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.519
put the in front of highway numbers.53900:31:12.039 --> 00:31:14.480
Huh according Oh yeah, like they just say it that54000:31:14.519 --> 00:31:15.160
way too.54100:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.920
They say, yeah, yeah, the a seventy five instead of54200:31:19.920 --> 00:31:20.720
a seventy five.54300:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.960
Yeah that is Yeah, I don't know about all that. Yeah,54400:31:26.839 --> 00:31:28.680
I like it. I like not doing that. Like I54500:31:28.720 --> 00:31:31.119
like that we just say I seventy five, I eighty five.54600:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.400
I like that because it saves time. Who's got time54700:31:34.440 --> 00:31:34.640
for that?54800:31:35.279 --> 00:31:37.359
Yeah, I already know it's the I don't have to54900:31:37.359 --> 00:31:38.039
put it there.55000:31:38.599 --> 00:31:39.640
Yeah, Like, come.55100:31:39.519 --> 00:31:44.720
On, it's like in Spanish when you drop the the sometimes.55200:31:44.720 --> 00:31:46.359
Well, I want to tell a story that's a little55300:31:46.359 --> 00:31:49.160
bit uplifting, and this is one that I'd been meaning55400:31:49.200 --> 00:31:51.920
to read on the show for a while, but I55500:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.960
never got around to it. This is from NPR headline.55600:31:56.039 --> 00:31:59.359
After five hundred and twenty nine days alone in the55700:31:59.400 --> 00:32:03.960
Australian bush, Valerie the Mini docsun is home.55800:32:04.559 --> 00:32:08.920
Oh I know about this, you do. Yeah, that's all55900:32:08.960 --> 00:32:09.200
I know.56000:32:09.440 --> 00:32:13.839
But yeah, bundled I'm a dog person, So bundled in56100:32:13.880 --> 00:32:17.519
a little blanket on a plush couch, Valerie doesn't quite56200:32:17.599 --> 00:32:21.519
look like a dog who recently survived more than seventeen56300:32:21.759 --> 00:32:26.680
months in the Australian wilderness. She's nestled between her two owners,56400:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.960
twenty four year old Georgia Gardner and twenty five year56500:32:29.960 --> 00:32:33.759
old Josh Fishlock, licking the couple's faces every so often56600:32:34.119 --> 00:32:39.160
as they talk over zoom ah quote. She's the queen56700:32:39.240 --> 00:32:42.480
of the house, Gardner says, smiling. It's her house and56800:32:42.519 --> 00:32:46.279
we just live in it a bit. But for five56900:32:46.440 --> 00:32:51.119
hundred and twenty nine days, Valerie, a roughly ten pound57000:32:51.240 --> 00:32:54.359
mini docs in with short legs and a long, black57100:32:54.400 --> 00:32:58.720
and brown body, was missing from that house. During a57200:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.319
November two thousand and two, twenty three camping trip to57300:33:01.440 --> 00:33:05.400
Kangaroo Island to Remote Island in southern Australia, she ran57400:33:05.440 --> 00:33:12.119
away from the campsite. Yeah, on an island.57500:33:12.880 --> 00:33:13.920
I mean that's confusing.57600:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.599
I man, I like, my greatest fear when I would57700:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.519
take my dogs anywhere is that they would run away disappear.57800:33:23.359 --> 00:33:25.279
Really on an island, I was really lucky. My dogs57900:33:25.279 --> 00:33:27.759
didn't really do the runaway thing. When I was a kid,58000:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.240
our dogs did. They would like try to just run58100:33:30.279 --> 00:33:30.640
for it.58200:33:31.119 --> 00:33:33.200
Yeah. Yeah, I had a dog that would do would58300:33:33.279 --> 00:33:33.759
run away.58400:33:34.599 --> 00:33:39.920
Look at this dog. Wowp yeah's because she's laying back58500:33:40.519 --> 00:33:46.119
big old floppy years. Anyway, Valerie was microchipped and also58600:33:46.240 --> 00:33:50.200
had an Apple Air tag on her collar. Oh that's smart.58700:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.839
The AAR tag is really smart. But the island is58800:33:52.880 --> 00:33:56.680
sparsely populated and largely used for farming and livestock, and58900:33:56.759 --> 00:34:01.160
the tag needed Apple Bluetooth devices nearby to track her down.59000:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.279
So the couple did what others do when their pets59100:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.519
go missing. They posted about her disappearance on a local59200:34:08.599 --> 00:34:11.920
Facebook group, left some of their clothes and toys with59300:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.239
valerie scent near the spot she ran off and switched59400:34:15.239 --> 00:34:19.719
the air Air tag into lost mode. But despite searching59500:34:19.800 --> 00:34:23.360
for days with members of the community, Gardner and Fishlock59600:34:23.440 --> 00:34:27.159
had to return home to mainland. Australia leaving the island59700:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.360
without her. Wow, that's so rough.59800:34:30.960 --> 00:34:34.079
Yeah, why didn't she come back?59900:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.840
I don't know. And Australia is not known for having60000:34:37.880 --> 00:34:42.880
a very kind and forgiving nature, so quote leaving the60100:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.559
island was probably the hardest decision I think I've ever60200:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.840
made in my life. We went over there as a60300:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.519
three and we were going back as two. It was60400:34:50.559 --> 00:34:55.199
a very horrible feeling, Fishlock remembers. They tried to hold60500:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.480
out hope that someone would find her and they'd be60600:34:57.559 --> 00:34:59.320
back in a week or two to pick her up.60700:35:00.199 --> 00:35:03.360
Weeks turned into months and there was still no word60800:35:03.840 --> 00:35:09.320
about Valerie. Yeah, Gardner says. The couple tried to cope60900:35:09.320 --> 00:35:11.800
with the fact that their tiny dog had disappeared on61000:35:12.360 --> 00:35:16.800
an island home to predators like snakes and eagles. They61100:35:16.800 --> 00:35:19.440
made up a story, trying to convince themselves that she'd61200:35:19.480 --> 00:35:21.639
been picked up by an old lady on a farm61300:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.599
and was now eating dog biscuits and sleeping in a61400:35:24.639 --> 00:35:30.719
warm bed. Quote. But we definitely had to be realistic61500:35:31.119 --> 00:35:33.679
that we might never get her home, and we had61600:35:33.719 --> 00:35:39.039
to move through that grief. She says. Man, that's so rough, Yeah,61700:35:39.039 --> 00:35:44.239
it really is. Then one day this past February, more61800:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.760
than a year after Valerie had gone missing, a farmer61900:35:47.840 --> 00:35:51.039
on Kangaroo Island snapped a photo of a tiny dog62000:35:51.480 --> 00:35:55.280
running through fields. That photo eventually made it to the62100:35:55.440 --> 00:35:59.400
Kangala Wildlife Rescue, a local animal rescue on the island62200:35:59.519 --> 00:36:03.760
generally focused more on wildlife than pets, who had been62300:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.199
in contact with Valerie's owners since she'd gone missing, and62400:36:07.280 --> 00:36:11.280
shared it with them. Gardner says at first they couldn't62500:36:11.280 --> 00:36:14.480
believe it. Quote, there's no way a four kilo dog62600:36:14.519 --> 00:36:18.559
could survive that long, she remembers thinking, But she says62700:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.039
the photo was absolutely Valerie.62800:36:23.360 --> 00:36:23.800
Wow.62900:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.679
I know right, Well, we're going to take a quick63000:36:26.679 --> 00:36:30.320
break and we'll get into more of Valerie's amazing return63100:36:30.360 --> 00:36:42.239
home after this, and we're back talking about possibly the63200:36:42.280 --> 00:36:46.679
most badass mini docs and on Earth. Although there may63300:36:46.719 --> 00:36:50.039
be some stiff competition, there definitely in the top ten.63400:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.639
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, that's the only one63500:36:52.639 --> 00:36:52.880
I know.63600:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.480
So you haven't lived until you keep up with the63700:36:57.639 --> 00:37:04.199
scorecards on mini Docsan's Eh, I'm never gonna live. Lisa Karen,63800:37:04.280 --> 00:37:08.360
who runs Kangala Wife Wildlife Rescue with her husband Jared,63900:37:08.679 --> 00:37:11.480
says Once that photo came through, they got to work64000:37:11.559 --> 00:37:15.400
trying to rescue Valerie during their off hours. It was64100:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.119
no small feat. Karen says. They first thought it would64200:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.519
take only a few days to catch the mini docs in,64300:37:22.079 --> 00:37:23.920
but they put out about a dozen of what she64400:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.760
calls cat traps, basic cages with a plate of food64500:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.119
and a door that latches when an animal goes in.64600:37:30.880 --> 00:37:37.440
But they kept catching nearly everything, brush tail possums, feral cats, wallabies,64700:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.920
everything except Valerie.64800:37:41.280 --> 00:37:42.480
Yeah.64900:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.920
Did you didn't you want a wallaby for Christmas? Wasn't65000:37:44.920 --> 00:37:45.639
I gonna get you one?65100:37:47.079 --> 00:37:49.920
I don't remember that at all, So.65200:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.920
No, okay, I guess I'll have him put to sleep.65300:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.039
No, just put him back where he belongs.65400:37:57.920 --> 00:37:59.280
I can't.65500:37:59.760 --> 00:38:00.400
Why not.65600:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.920
Because he belongs with you, Michelle.65700:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.159
No, he's never even met me before.65800:38:10.400 --> 00:38:12.119
I let him loose in your house every night while65900:38:12.159 --> 00:38:14.920
you're asleep. Oh, yeah, that's what that was.66000:38:15.360 --> 00:38:20.800
Yeah.66100:38:20.840 --> 00:38:25.679
Oh. Her next quote was even a few kangaroos put66200:38:25.679 --> 00:38:29.480
their heads in there. So, along with a team of66300:38:29.519 --> 00:38:33.320
other volunteers, they began experimenting with different traps, often working66400:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.760
long nights with little to no sleep. Eventually, they rigged66500:38:36.840 --> 00:38:40.239
up a big pen with a roof, several wildlife cameras,66600:38:40.559 --> 00:38:43.599
and a remote controlled door, setting it in the spot66700:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.320
where Valerie had been last seen. They replenished it daily66800:38:47.400 --> 00:38:50.119
with food like roast chicken and filled it with Valeries66900:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.400
toys and clothes that carried the scent of her owner67000:38:54.000 --> 00:38:58.760
of her owners. Eventually, Valerie started showing up, grabbing food67100:38:58.800 --> 00:39:03.079
before darting back out again. Well, yeah, she's become cunning, Yeah,67200:39:03.119 --> 00:39:05.159
to get by in the harsh, in the harsh world.67300:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.760
Let's face it, she was always cunning. She's she's been surviving.67400:39:08.880 --> 00:39:09.800
She knows what she's doing.67500:39:10.559 --> 00:39:12.480
Damn right. See, I like you. Now you're on team67600:39:12.559 --> 00:39:16.960
valin I love that for you. And finally, after nearly67700:39:17.000 --> 00:39:20.920
two months of trying to capture the little dog, everything67800:39:21.000 --> 00:39:24.519
lined up. Valerie entered the pen and relaxed a bit.67900:39:25.079 --> 00:39:27.920
Then they hit the remote to drop the door.68000:39:29.880 --> 00:39:30.280
Yeah.68100:39:31.159 --> 00:39:33.960
Quote, it was surreal walking down to the trap site68200:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.039
from the car and you could hear her barking. Karen68300:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.679
remembers she climbed into the pen alongside her daughter, and68400:39:40.719 --> 00:39:46.280
eventually Valerie climbed into their laps and fell asleep. That's68500:39:46.320 --> 00:39:47.039
really cute.68600:39:47.079 --> 00:39:50.639
It's cute, but I feel bad for Valerie because I68700:39:50.679 --> 00:39:53.679
think she wanted to be free.68800:39:54.000 --> 00:39:55.440
I don't know about all that.68900:39:56.719 --> 00:39:58.320
I think she wanted to be free.69000:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.480
Okay, So what you're saying is they should let her,69100:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.400
They should let her back into the wilderness.69200:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.880
What I'm saying is, this is a story of you know,69300:40:08.039 --> 00:40:11.599
kidnapping an animal, and.69400:40:12.679 --> 00:40:15.000
Wow, you turned our feel good story for the month69500:40:15.039 --> 00:40:16.280
into something really hateful.69600:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.719
Great job, thanks quote.69700:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.960
Our hearts just broke. Then we knew she never ever69800:40:22.119 --> 00:40:25.400
wanted to be to be a minute out there, she says,69900:40:25.760 --> 00:40:27.000
they seem to disagree.70000:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.119
Well, then how come she didn't run to like the70100:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.079
farmer or that stuff. How come she kept going out70200:40:34.119 --> 00:40:34.800
of the cage?70300:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.079
How come maybe she was scared. I mean, at that70400:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.079
point had been over a year, Yeah, when the cage70500:40:40.119 --> 00:40:40.639
was happening.70600:40:41.000 --> 00:40:44.159
Yeah, so she and she you know, the stuff in70700:40:44.199 --> 00:40:46.599
the cage had the scent of her owners and stuff,70800:40:47.079 --> 00:40:49.760
so you'd think that she wouldn't be constantly darting out70900:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.159
of it. I don't know, I don't know. It sounds71000:40:52.199 --> 00:40:53.239
like she wanted to be free.71100:40:53.960 --> 00:40:58.480
Hmmm. No one quite knows exactly how Valerie survived so71200:40:58.559 --> 00:41:01.800
many days in the wild. She was ultimately found about71300:41:01.840 --> 00:41:07.199
thirty miles from the campsite she'd left. Okay, maybe by71400:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.400
that point she had lost the scent of her owners.71500:41:10.519 --> 00:41:11.519
I mean it's possible.71600:41:13.360 --> 00:41:16.920
Karen speculates that she was drinking water from nearby farms,71700:41:17.239 --> 00:41:20.239
burrowing in the dirt for shelter, or even eating the71800:41:20.320 --> 00:41:25.519
carcasses of dead animals. After her capture, Valerie went to71900:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.119
the vet and got a clean bill of health. She'd72000:41:28.159 --> 00:41:30.599
even gained some weight. Oh my gosh.72100:41:30.719 --> 00:41:32.760
Yeah, see she was having a good time.72200:41:33.400 --> 00:41:36.920
Quote, she's got the physique of a little bodybuilder, Karen laughed.72300:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.039
About A month has passed since her big adventure came72400:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.159
to an end, and Valerie has been back home with72500:41:42.199 --> 00:41:45.519
Gardner and Fishlock for about two weeks. They say she's72600:41:45.519 --> 00:41:48.760
settled right back in, playing with her toys, cuddling in bed,72700:41:48.920 --> 00:41:51.760
and going on walks, just like before she went missing.72800:41:53.400 --> 00:41:55.199
I mean, I would worry that she has a taste72900:41:55.239 --> 00:41:57.400
for blood now, but that's just me.73000:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.840
Yeah, I feel.73100:42:00.599 --> 00:42:01.960
Like you worry about that more than I do.73200:42:02.119 --> 00:42:04.760
Usually I don't worry about taste for blood.73300:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.119
Oh wait, No, you're a cat person's You're like, yeah,73400:42:07.159 --> 00:42:13.400
they kill kill stuff, do exactly? Yeah? Kill it. Quote,73500:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.719
Oh you're going like this quote, She's come back a73600:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.960
bit more independent. Gardner says, she's still quite attached to us,73700:42:19.960 --> 00:42:21.880
but she's stronger and more on her own.73800:42:22.679 --> 00:42:23.679
Yeah.73900:42:24.039 --> 00:42:26.639
Karen says. People have asked her why she and her74000:42:26.679 --> 00:42:29.360
team put so much effort in time into finding one74100:42:29.400 --> 00:42:34.239
tiny dog, But for her, it was simple. Quote if74200:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.079
it was your dog, what would you want someone to do?74300:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.199
Wouldn't you want someone to say, hey, let's do the74400:42:40.239 --> 00:42:43.719
best we can. We should all as humans just come74500:42:43.760 --> 00:42:47.920
together and make it right, or at least try. She says,74600:42:48.519 --> 00:42:50.440
I like this lady, even though you think she's a74700:42:50.519 --> 00:42:51.599
kidnapper and a monster.74800:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.400
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I I'm on the face74900:42:55.440 --> 00:42:58.320
of it, that's very nice, and I think that everyone75000:42:58.320 --> 00:43:02.679
should do the best for everything. But that dog just75100:43:02.719 --> 00:43:04.400
wanted to be free.75200:43:04.719 --> 00:43:08.159
Wow, Okay, fine.75300:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.239
And it was like, you know, when it realized it75400:43:10.280 --> 00:43:14.400
was going back to captivity, was like, okay, But she75500:43:14.400 --> 00:43:17.800
she wanted to be free. That's why she left. That's75600:43:17.840 --> 00:43:23.599
why she was just hanging out for almost two years. Yeah.75700:43:23.639 --> 00:43:26.440
Wow, okay, I mean I appreciate the hot take.75800:43:27.119 --> 00:43:28.199
Thanks.75900:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.880
Gardner and Fishlocks say they've been flooded with messages about Valerie,76000:43:32.920 --> 00:43:39.280
mostly from Michelle uh angrily writing message after message, Yes,76100:43:39.880 --> 00:43:43.159
many from people saying her story gave them hope.76200:43:43.880 --> 00:43:49.639
Oh that's too bad because this is such an ex76300:43:50.320 --> 00:43:54.199
this is such an extreme example, and I like, don't76400:43:54.519 --> 00:43:57.039
I feel bad for people who like their dog got76500:43:57.079 --> 00:44:01.360
away and they're really probably dead, you know, and they're like, oh,76600:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.360
well maybe she's no, they're dead.76700:44:03.880 --> 00:44:05.960
I mean I wouldn't be I wouldn't be shocked if76800:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.679
she was being taken care of, but we don't know,76900:44:09.199 --> 00:44:11.360
you know, by who, or you know whatever.77000:44:11.760 --> 00:44:13.800
It's possible. Yeah, Like like.77100:44:13.719 --> 00:44:15.559
I wouldn't be surprised if somebody saw a little dog77200:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.440
and they kept laying out food. Maybe they tried to77300:44:17.440 --> 00:44:20.320
catch her and that's what made her so uh you77400:44:20.360 --> 00:44:24.559
know shy m h. It's yeah, you know, maybe maybe77500:44:24.559 --> 00:44:26.559
them trying to catch her just scared the hell out77600:44:26.599 --> 00:44:31.880
of her. I don't know. Gardner says she hopes that77700:44:31.880 --> 00:44:35.400
that's what people can take away from the saga is hope. Quote.77800:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.719
If a tiny, little four kilo sausage dog can survive77900:44:38.800 --> 00:44:42.000
on Kangaroo Island in the Australian bush, then you know,78000:44:42.400 --> 00:44:48.599
you too can survive whatever it is. You're going through. Aw. Yeah, man,78100:44:48.679 --> 00:44:52.159
you're mean. These people seem so nice. They haven't even78200:44:52.239 --> 00:44:55.760
killed anybody. They haven't even killed anybody with toxic mushrooms78300:44:55.760 --> 00:44:56.960
like these are great people.78400:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.920
They are. I'm sorry.78500:45:01.320 --> 00:45:05.159
I think your apology might be accepted. We'll have to see,78600:45:05.760 --> 00:45:07.639
but we're going to take a break, and when we78700:45:07.679 --> 00:45:09.360
get back, I want to talk about a story I'm78800:45:09.440 --> 00:45:14.840
very excited about involving a ancient grave being unearthed in78900:45:14.920 --> 00:45:30.639
residential Lima. After this, we have returned with even more79000:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.880
spooky news Shell and this one I got really excited79100:45:34.920 --> 00:45:39.639
about when I saw the headline ancient pre Hispanic grave79200:45:39.840 --> 00:45:44.159
unearthed under residential Lima. I want to say Lima Street79300:45:44.320 --> 00:45:48.159
because Lima, Ohio is near me, which should be pronounced79400:45:48.199 --> 00:45:53.519
Lima Ohio as well. Yeah, but it's Lima Street. This79500:45:53.559 --> 00:45:57.840
is from Reuters and human remains pointing to a one79600:45:57.920 --> 00:46:01.760
thousand year old pre Hispanic semetery were unearthed in northern79700:46:01.800 --> 00:46:05.880
Lima by workers digging under the Peruvian capital to install79800:46:05.920 --> 00:46:12.360
a gas pipeline, an archaeologist. Archaeologist told Reuters on Thursday.79900:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.639
The tomb was found on a residential street, just two80000:46:15.760 --> 00:46:18.400
meters from the front gate of a house.80100:46:19.559 --> 00:46:22.280
Yeah, I don't know how big a meter is six.80200:46:22.199 --> 00:46:26.119
Point six feet, I don't I'm not smart. That's in it.80300:46:26.119 --> 00:46:28.760
It's next to the two meters. It has the calculation.80400:46:28.840 --> 00:46:32.719
I'm not smart. Don't let anybody fall for that thinking80500:46:32.760 --> 00:46:38.599
I'm smart. Stuff that ain't happening of Jose Pablo aliya Uh,80600:46:38.719 --> 00:46:43.679
an archaeologist for Gas Distribution from Kalidida Khalida, said the80700:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.599
remains of a man wrapped in burial cloth alongside pottery80800:46:47.840 --> 00:46:51.360
likely pointed to a burial complex after another body was80900:46:51.400 --> 00:46:56.039
found nearby last month. Wow, ooh, here you can see81000:46:56.079 --> 00:46:56.599
some of the stuff.81100:46:56.760 --> 00:47:00.840
Chell, Hey, there's a skull.81200:47:00.519 --> 00:47:03.679
And some pots and bamboo and.81300:47:03.679 --> 00:47:06.320
Some stuff next to it that doesn't look like it's old.81400:47:07.960 --> 00:47:13.000
I think that's for like size, Yeah, for something for reference,81500:47:13.000 --> 00:47:16.159
I guess would be the term. Quote. The material evidence81600:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.159
suggests that it could be a burial of the Shanki81700:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.800
culture from approximately one thousand to twelve hundred years ago,81800:47:23.039 --> 00:47:27.679
said Alaga, pointing to a coastal fishing based civilization known81900:47:27.719 --> 00:47:33.719
for its textiles and ceramics. Quote. We are probably over82000:47:33.800 --> 00:47:37.519
a pre Hispanic cemetery, as we found another burial just82100:47:37.559 --> 00:47:41.440
around the corner from here, he added, so they're maggoty82200:47:42.000 --> 00:47:48.840
with burials burial spots. It is common for companies excavating82300:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.760
under Lima to hire archaeologists due to the number of82400:47:51.800 --> 00:47:56.360
sites scattered in the city. Last month, Kalida Gas workers82500:47:56.440 --> 00:48:02.119
working in the same district of Puente Perda Pierre Pierre, Ah, Pierra,82600:48:03.039 --> 00:48:04.719
I burned my tongue on my tea and now I82700:48:04.719 --> 00:48:09.760
can't speak Spanish, discovered the remains of a mummified woman,82800:48:09.960 --> 00:48:13.840
which researcher researchers estimate are over nine hundred years old.82900:48:14.280 --> 00:48:16.159
Wow, it was not that old.83000:48:16.679 --> 00:48:20.719
No? No, no, are you just saying that to be83100:48:20.719 --> 00:48:21.119
a jerk?83200:48:22.199 --> 00:48:22.440
No?83300:48:24.039 --> 00:48:28.599
Are you sure? No? Because I mean you you went83400:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.320
pretty hard against that family getting their dog back at83500:48:31.400 --> 00:48:32.280
during the last segment.83600:48:32.480 --> 00:48:35.159
I mean, I kind of stick by what I said,83700:48:35.639 --> 00:48:38.119
but I do think they're nice people. I just I'm83800:48:38.159 --> 00:48:41.360
just not sure that dog wanted to live indoors. I83900:48:41.360 --> 00:48:43.800
think that dog was happy.84000:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.679
Wow. Yeah, So are you gonna open your front door84100:48:47.679 --> 00:48:48.760
and just see what gigs does?84200:48:49.599 --> 00:48:53.280
No? No, she would die if she went outside because84300:48:53.320 --> 00:48:54.599
she didn't have her whole face.84400:48:55.880 --> 00:48:58.719
I thought you were like, no, because she's my property.84500:48:58.920 --> 00:49:00.800
I thought you were just gonna like you go all84600:49:00.840 --> 00:49:09.360
in all that way. I own her. Peru's ten million84700:49:09.440 --> 00:49:13.480
strong capital hosts over four hundred archaeological sites dotted around84800:49:13.519 --> 00:49:17.320
the city. Wow, ten million people live in Lima. That's incredible.84900:49:18.760 --> 00:49:21.360
That's a very I need to know more about Lima, Peru,85000:49:21.440 --> 00:49:24.599
because like, I had no idea they had that size85100:49:23.639 --> 00:49:27.840
of a population in one city. I mean, that's incredible.85200:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.440
I also, whenever I hear Peru, I think of Silent Night,85300:49:32.440 --> 00:49:37.559
Deadly Night three because this girl who's blind, she goes85400:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.000
to this psychotherapist guy and she says, like, we're going85500:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.239
to Piru after I leave here. We're going to see85600:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.840
my grandmother in Piru. And he's like, you're going to85700:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.639
Peru and she's like, no, Piru. It's in the valley85800:49:50.679 --> 00:49:56.280
where they grow oranges. It's the dumbest exchange. But I85900:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.519
remember it forever because that's pretty much narrows down My86000:49:59.679 --> 00:50:04.360
entire existence is stuff like that. Whatever is the dumbest exchange,86100:50:04.559 --> 00:50:12.280
I'll remember forever. Yeah. Anyway, good? Oh no, please please86200:50:13.719 --> 00:50:15.199
validate me, please for the God.86300:50:15.320 --> 00:50:16.039
That's okay.86400:50:17.280 --> 00:50:23.960
Finally, Khalida itself has reported over twenty two hundred archaeological86500:50:24.000 --> 00:50:27.880
discoveries in the last two decades, most of them traced86600:50:27.880 --> 00:50:31.519
back to the chang Ki culture. That's really interesting that86700:50:31.880 --> 00:50:37.280
that the gas company is hiring archaeologists and finding all86800:50:37.280 --> 00:50:38.920
the stuff. It's actually kind of nice.86900:50:39.320 --> 00:50:42.079
I mean, it's interesting. I mean, it's not different than87000:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.639
like anywhere else. Like my sister has to go out87100:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.360
when they find like graveyards under things.87200:50:50.159 --> 00:50:52.719
Oh no, I agree, it's just like here, it's like87300:50:53.800 --> 00:50:57.239
obvious that this was a massive hub of of you know,87400:50:58.239 --> 00:51:03.360
of ancient cultures. So it's just interesting that it's like that,87500:51:03.480 --> 00:51:06.400
Like the gas company has made twenty two hundred archaeological87600:51:06.400 --> 00:51:09.480
discoveries in two decades, because it's just so thick with87700:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.440
that stuff everywhere. You know, as to where if we87800:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.280
were digging in my area of Ohio and we found87900:51:15.280 --> 00:51:20.800
a bunch of skeletons, people will be like, uh what88000:51:21.559 --> 00:51:23.760
unless it was near an Indian mound. But that's different.88100:51:25.239 --> 00:51:28.039
We do have a bunch of Indian mounds. Yeah, it's88200:51:28.119 --> 00:51:32.480
kind of our claim to fame except for the birthplace88300:51:32.480 --> 00:51:35.920
of aviation, but whatever. That's my favorite. You can never88400:51:35.960 --> 00:51:38.360
win an argument with somebody from Dayton, Ohio about where88500:51:38.360 --> 00:51:42.119
you're from. You just can't because like all you have88600:51:42.199 --> 00:51:43.920
to do is like keep it to your keep the88700:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.480
card close to your chest until they say like, well,88800:51:46.679 --> 00:51:49.320
you know we had the you know, the White Sox88900:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.119
went to the whatever, and then you can go, oh, yeah, yeah,89000:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.199
we invented the man's ability to fly.89100:51:55.679 --> 00:51:58.599
Yeah, but what about the people what about the people89200:51:58.639 --> 00:52:01.199
from like North Carolina who are like, we don't have89300:52:01.280 --> 00:52:04.599
the first flight and about it.89400:52:04.840 --> 00:52:09.079
No, No, for their museum, there can't be anything interesting89500:52:09.079 --> 00:52:11.159
in that museum because the Right Brothers Museum in Dayton89600:52:11.280 --> 00:52:11.880
is massive.89700:52:12.400 --> 00:52:13.280
It's pretty small.89800:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.760
Yeah, there you go on that one. Hey, I get it.89900:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.039
They wanted to go where there was the reason they90000:52:19.039 --> 00:52:22.480
did it at Kitty Hawk is because they felt bad90100:52:22.559 --> 00:52:24.800
for how awful Kitty No. No, the reason they did90200:52:24.840 --> 00:52:27.400
at Kitty Hawk this is you brought up like a90300:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.679
blood feud. I know, first in flight?90400:52:31.719 --> 00:52:32.480
Yeah?90500:52:32.760 --> 00:52:34.920
Are their license place a first in flight? Are say90600:52:34.920 --> 00:52:41.920
birthplace of aviation? So just saying no, uh. The reason90700:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.199
they went to Kitty Hawk is is a beautiful place90800:52:44.519 --> 00:52:47.679
and they wanted to do it on sand to have90900:52:47.760 --> 00:52:51.679
like a softer landing, you know, assuming things don't go91000:52:51.800 --> 00:52:52.199
so good.91100:52:52.519 --> 00:52:53.280
That makes sense.91200:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.199
And I'm sure winds too, because being near the ocean,91300:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.000
the winds are really strong. Maybe I don't know.91400:53:00.119 --> 00:53:01.840
I don't know if that's a good thing, honestly.91500:53:02.840 --> 00:53:04.800
Yeah, you're right, kitty hawk, get your shit together.91600:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.360
Uh.91700:53:07.559 --> 00:53:11.159
The South American nation is home to hundreds of archaeological sites,91800:53:11.320 --> 00:53:14.679
including the Inca Citadel of Machu Picchu. I've heard of91900:53:14.679 --> 00:53:18.639
Machu Picchu in the Andean region of Cusco and the92000:53:18.679 --> 00:53:22.559
ancient Nazca lines carved into the coastal desert of its92100:53:22.639 --> 00:53:23.760
Eca region.92200:53:24.280 --> 00:53:25.639
Oh, I heard those lines.92300:53:26.119 --> 00:53:29.000
Those are nice. Yeah, I've heard Peru, and I think92400:53:29.119 --> 00:53:32.840
Chile have like an insane amount of ancient cultures like92500:53:33.559 --> 00:53:38.719
all over the place. So yeah, I mean Chile technically92600:53:38.800 --> 00:53:41.960
the birthplace, birthplace of Chili power peppers, that's where the92700:53:42.039 --> 00:53:44.119
name comes from.92800:53:44.360 --> 00:53:47.159
I mean I think I think that that's more impressive92900:53:47.159 --> 00:53:49.880
than the birthplace of aviation. Personally.93000:53:50.320 --> 00:53:52.639
No, I agree. No, I was talking about the States,93100:53:53.280 --> 00:53:56.760
talking about countries, because then you can be like, I'm93200:53:56.760 --> 00:54:00.559
from Italy, I'm going to claim democracy. Get out of93300:54:00.559 --> 00:54:04.360
here with your roaman stuff. No. But uh, no, that's well.93400:54:04.559 --> 00:54:07.719
And I'm pretty sure Chile is where the first potatoes93500:54:07.760 --> 00:54:12.400
came from too whoa. So yeah, if if people didn't93600:54:12.440 --> 00:54:18.360
know potatoes, tobacco, all chili peppers came from Central America93700:54:18.400 --> 00:54:20.079
originally and South America originally.93800:54:21.199 --> 00:54:22.679
I believe that.93900:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.960
It blew my mind. Some people in Asia refused. They're like, no,94000:54:26.079 --> 00:54:30.079
we had them, you know you didn't. Yeah, and it's94100:54:30.079 --> 00:54:32.599
like you were the biggest trade route in the world94200:54:32.760 --> 00:54:36.239
was going to the Indies and stuff like, yeah, you94300:54:36.320 --> 00:54:38.039
did not have them before. They're like, well, what if94400:54:38.039 --> 00:54:41.039
a bird ate a chili pepper and then flew across94500:54:41.039 --> 00:54:43.199
the ocean and then pooped over here. It's like, dude,94600:54:43.639 --> 00:54:47.679
stop coping. It's okay, Okay, it's okay. The Irish pretend94700:54:47.760 --> 00:54:50.840
like they've always had potatoes. It's fine, Yeah, it's fine.94800:54:51.280 --> 00:54:52.079
Yeah.94900:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.519
Chile is not like goddamn Sony saying like, oh, we95000:54:54.559 --> 00:54:56.880
have a patent now, so you gotta time you eat95100:54:56.920 --> 00:55:00.719
a potato, you gotta pay us a little something. With95200:55:00.880 --> 00:55:02.920
that said, we're gonna take a break and when we95300:55:02.960 --> 00:55:06.920
get back, we're going to talk about a very aggressive95400:55:07.559 --> 00:55:24.159
animal that put two people in the er. Right after this, Michelle,95500:55:24.800 --> 00:55:27.960
what level of fear do you have of wild animals?95600:55:28.920 --> 00:55:32.159
I mean, It depends on the wild animal. It depends95700:55:32.199 --> 00:55:32.599
on that.95800:55:33.079 --> 00:55:37.639
Yeah, but I mean as a general threat wild animals,95900:55:38.480 --> 00:55:39.039
I don't know.96000:55:39.360 --> 00:55:44.199
It depends and what if they're dangerous or not. Like96100:55:44.599 --> 00:55:49.159
I'm not afraid of like the salamanders that are living96200:55:49.159 --> 00:55:53.559
in my mom's house, but I am afraid of bears.96300:55:54.559 --> 00:55:58.599
All bears, yes, all of them.96400:55:59.239 --> 00:56:02.039
I mean if if the black fight back, if they're brown,96500:56:02.119 --> 00:56:07.239
lay down, if they're grizzly, I don't know what the96600:56:07.400 --> 00:56:08.199
I think you just die?96700:56:08.519 --> 00:56:08.800
Yeah?96800:56:09.079 --> 00:56:16.239
Yeah, well, hmm. If I told you that a very96900:56:16.280 --> 00:56:19.880
aggressive wild animal sent two people, at least two people97000:56:20.079 --> 00:56:23.559
to the emergency room, what animal would you think that was.97100:56:24.599 --> 00:56:25.719
I think it's a deer.97200:56:26.800 --> 00:56:31.400
Yeah, yeah, How how did you know that?97300:56:31.960 --> 00:56:33.960
Because I just tried to think of the one that,97400:56:34.079 --> 00:56:35.280
like normally.97500:56:34.920 --> 00:56:39.000
Wouldn't I'm faking you out. Actually it's a squirrel.97600:56:39.559 --> 00:56:43.719
Oh no, yeah.97700:56:44.000 --> 00:56:48.280
Huffington Post has an article with the headline aggressive squirrel97800:56:48.480 --> 00:56:51.719
sends at least two people to er in California city.97900:56:52.119 --> 00:56:52.639
Wow.98000:56:53.599 --> 00:56:57.800
San Francisco. Residents of San Francisco Bay Area city are98100:56:57.840 --> 00:57:00.480
on the lookout for an aggressive squirrel that sent at98200:57:00.559 --> 00:57:04.519
least two people to the hospital for medical treatment.98300:57:06.039 --> 00:57:07.039
Did havebes.98400:57:08.639 --> 00:57:11.920
I think it's just really mean. I'm looking. We're gonna98500:57:11.960 --> 00:57:14.199
find out together, you and me if this is a98600:57:14.239 --> 00:57:18.679
team effort. Okay, but this is why I asked, like,98700:57:18.800 --> 00:57:21.280
what is you know? How afraid are you of the98800:57:21.400 --> 00:57:26.320
general concept of wild animals? Okay, Like, I'm moderately afraid98900:57:26.320 --> 00:57:31.280
of the general concept of wild animals because that includes99000:57:31.360 --> 00:57:34.039
like how startled would I be if a full sized99100:57:34.119 --> 00:57:37.280
deer was just on my lawn. I'd be a little99200:57:37.280 --> 00:57:39.280
concerned if it was like like because I'd be like,99300:57:39.280 --> 00:57:40.400
why isn't it staying away?99400:57:41.239 --> 00:57:43.000
Oh? I wouldn't be concerned at all.99500:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.039
Oh. I mean if it was passing by, I wouldn't be.99600:57:45.079 --> 00:57:46.840
But if it was just like standing in my yard99700:57:47.320 --> 00:57:49.679
not going anywhere, I'd be like, what is wrong with99800:57:49.760 --> 00:57:50.159
this deer?99900:57:50.679 --> 00:57:53.880
Yeah? I would Is it angry? They're just hanging out?100000:57:54.760 --> 00:57:57.599
I have the cutest family of possums in my in100100:57:57.679 --> 00:58:00.440
my my front yard, backyard somewhere.100200:58:00.599 --> 00:58:00.800
Yeah.100300:58:00.920 --> 00:58:03.440
I keep seeing them on my ring camera going around places,100400:58:03.480 --> 00:58:04.880
and every now and then the mom will be waddling100500:58:04.880 --> 00:58:07.000
around and you can see a baby on its back. Ah.100600:58:08.480 --> 00:58:12.320
I like possums. They eat bugs. Yeah, I say, let's100700:58:12.360 --> 00:58:14.960
have all the possums. All possums, no gophers. That's what100800:58:15.000 --> 00:58:18.559
I want in life. Okay, But one year, do you remember,100900:58:18.679 --> 00:58:22.079
years and years ago, we had like these crazy aggressive squirrels.101000:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.320
They were chewing through our dumpsters or trash cans and stuff,101100:58:26.480 --> 00:58:32.039
and they chewed up my Halloween jackal landerns. I haven't101200:58:32.039 --> 00:58:33.840
had that problem very much, but I'm gonna give a101300:58:33.880 --> 00:58:36.280
pro tip out there for every weekly Spooky listener. You've101400:58:36.280 --> 00:58:40.599
earned this. When I had giant chunks ripped from my pumpkins,101500:58:40.639 --> 00:58:43.480
and like trigger treat was the next day, I ran101600:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.199
out to the store and I bought a bottle of101700:58:45.239 --> 00:58:49.480
temper paint and I just squirted it generously on all101800:58:49.519 --> 00:58:51.480
of the cuts, and it made the pumpkin look like101900:58:51.480 --> 00:58:54.519
it had wounds all over it that were like seeping blood.102000:58:54.800 --> 00:58:55.719
That's really cool.102100:58:56.039 --> 00:58:59.079
It honestly was possibly my favorite jackal headerds ever because102200:58:59.079 --> 00:59:01.480
they just looked all they just looked like they had102300:59:01.519 --> 00:59:03.960
been ripped apart and were bleeding. It was really creepy102400:59:03.960 --> 00:59:06.719
and fun. So thank you for that, squirrels. But let's102500:59:06.719 --> 00:59:11.159
talk about a scary squirrel. Joan he Black told ABC102600:59:11.280 --> 00:59:15.199
affiliate KGOTV that she was walking in the Lucas Valley102700:59:15.199 --> 00:59:19.079
neighborhood of San Rafael when a squirrel seemingly came out102800:59:19.119 --> 00:59:24.239
of nowhere and attacked her leg, clawing and biting. Oh102900:59:24.360 --> 00:59:28.800
no quote, it clamped onto my leg. The tail was103000:59:28.840 --> 00:59:31.400
flying up here. I was like, get it off me,103100:59:31.519 --> 00:59:35.599
get it off me. He Black said, that's we're laughing,103200:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.559
I think, because that's what I would be yelling. If103300:59:38.599 --> 00:59:40.679
a squirrel just latched onto my leg, I'd probably be103400:59:40.679 --> 00:59:42.480
helling get it off me to nobody in particular.103500:59:42.800 --> 00:59:45.239
No, see, like, I'm not laughing because of that. I'm103600:59:45.280 --> 00:59:47.760
laughing because I wouldn't recount that. I wouldn't be like103700:59:48.119 --> 00:59:49.920
And then I was like yelling like get it off,103800:59:50.000 --> 00:59:51.639
because come on, you would just.103900:59:51.679 --> 00:59:53.360
Keep that to yourself. You want some people to know that.104000:59:53.599 --> 00:59:56.000
So then I just stood there like a freaking alpha104100:59:56.079 --> 00:59:58.480
chad and just let it noaw on my leg like whatever,104200:59:58.559 --> 01:00:00.400
little bro, Now's not the time.104301:00:00.639 --> 01:00:02.639
I just think that, like it's kind of a given104401:00:02.679 --> 01:00:04.960
that you're freaking out, Like you don't have to tell104501:00:05.000 --> 01:00:06.760
me that. You're saying, give it off me, getting it104601:00:06.800 --> 01:00:07.079
off me?104701:00:07.199 --> 01:00:11.800
I get it Isabelle Campoi also said she was attacked104801:00:11.800 --> 01:00:14.880
while walking in the same area. The squirrel launched itself104901:00:14.880 --> 01:00:17.599
from the ground to her face and wound up on105001:00:17.719 --> 01:00:23.119
her arm, leaving it bloody. She said, wow, whoa both105101:00:23.159 --> 01:00:25.559
of the this squirrel might be a misogynist. It attacked.105201:00:25.639 --> 01:00:28.679
Both of these women were women, It says here both105301:00:28.679 --> 01:00:31.719
women went to the emergency room. Flyers have now been105401:00:31.760 --> 01:00:34.920
posted warning residents that the squirrel is no joke and105501:00:34.960 --> 01:00:37.360
that more than five people have been attacked by a105601:00:37.480 --> 01:00:43.559
quote very mean squirrel. That quote comes out of nowhere. Wow.105701:00:45.719 --> 01:00:49.440
Oh man, So I'm going to show you Chell. This105801:00:49.519 --> 01:00:52.360
is an image of the arm injury. That's pretty bad,105901:00:52.639 --> 01:00:56.639
like her arm is ripped up. Yeah, that's the squirrel attack. Squirrel. Beware,106001:00:56.719 --> 01:00:58.400
this is not a joke. More than five people have106101:00:58.400 --> 01:00:59.639
been attacked. But it has like a shot of a106201:00:59.679 --> 01:01:01.880
squirrel flying through the air, So it's like funny. I'm106301:01:01.880 --> 01:01:04.280
sure you'd laugh, but I like that it says like, no,106401:01:04.360 --> 01:01:06.840
but really, there's been a squirrel attacking people. Be careful.106501:01:07.239 --> 01:01:09.079
Honestly, if I saw that, I would think it was106601:01:09.119 --> 01:01:09.480
a joke.106701:01:10.119 --> 01:01:14.079
Yeah, but that's because you live near Philly. People do106801:01:14.159 --> 01:01:17.519
stuff like that in Philly. Yeah, I miss Philly. I106901:01:17.880 --> 01:01:25.880
need to come and visit. Oh gosh. Vanessa Potter of Wildcare,107001:01:25.880 --> 01:01:30.039
a wildlife rescue organization in San Rafael, told KGO TV107101:01:30.199 --> 01:01:33.280
that the aggressive behavior likely comes from the squirrel being107201:01:33.320 --> 01:01:36.280
fed and cared for by humans when it was a baby.107301:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.719
Oh wow, So it's an ingrate, is what you're saying.107401:01:41.800 --> 01:01:43.800
I thought they were nicer when they were hand fed107501:01:43.840 --> 01:01:44.440
as babies.107601:01:44.679 --> 01:01:48.320
No, because it actually hated those people when they were107701:01:48.400 --> 01:01:50.760
meaned it even.107801:01:49.960 --> 01:01:51.880
Assume all animals hate their owners.107901:01:53.480 --> 01:01:56.719
Well, because the squirrel is attacking people, I don't know.108001:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.480
I mean, the dog before wasn't attacking people, and you108101:02:01.519 --> 01:02:03.440
still assumed it hated its owners.108201:02:03.320 --> 01:02:06.440
Did not hate, just didn't want to be around them anymore,108301:02:06.480 --> 01:02:07.159
and'd be free.108401:02:07.760 --> 01:02:13.760
Oh my god. Okachell, Okay, she said squirrels are not108501:02:13.960 --> 01:02:16.639
vectors for rabies. Oh that's helpful.108601:02:16.840 --> 01:02:17.519
I didn't know that.108701:02:18.559 --> 01:02:21.719
I guess. Yeah, experts say the public should not feed108801:02:21.840 --> 01:02:24.639
wild animals. I don't think. I think.108901:02:26.440 --> 01:02:26.639
Mmm.109001:02:27.679 --> 01:02:30.079
I mean I think that she's probably right that it109101:02:30.159 --> 01:02:33.119
probably I don't think the way it read what it109201:02:33.159 --> 01:02:34.920
said being fed and cared for by humans when it109301:02:34.960 --> 01:02:36.400
was a baby, I think she meant when it was109401:02:36.440 --> 01:02:40.719
an adolescent. Maybe it just was constantly being fed, so109501:02:40.840 --> 01:02:44.159
it it no longer fears humans, and it wants and109601:02:44.239 --> 01:02:46.400
it demands things from them. I guess you know, it109701:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.480
gets aggressive with them. If it was a baby being109801:02:49.519 --> 01:02:51.119
bottle fed by a human, I feel like it would109901:02:51.159 --> 01:02:54.280
be super nice. Yeah, that's usually how, especially mammals, but110001:02:54.360 --> 01:02:56.920
even birds, like if they're if they're if they're hand110101:02:56.920 --> 01:03:01.199
fed when they're little babies, they're just super nice. Not110201:03:01.239 --> 01:03:05.079
all birds, some birds are still birds. Have you you're110301:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.159
not a rat person or a mouse person? Right?110401:03:08.320 --> 01:03:12.800
No? I mean no, I've never Wait, did you ask110501:03:12.840 --> 01:03:13.960
if i'd ever held a rat?110601:03:14.239 --> 01:03:17.039
Yeah? Yeah, do you like it? Did you like it?110701:03:17.440 --> 01:03:20.079
It was fine? Yeah. I had a friend growing up110801:03:20.079 --> 01:03:21.719
who had some rats.110901:03:21.639 --> 01:03:25.519
Whoa bragging right there, throwing your weight around. I had111001:03:25.519 --> 01:03:26.599
a friend growing up.111101:03:26.880 --> 01:03:30.800
Yeah weird, right, Yeah, sorry, it's okay. She moved away.111201:03:31.360 --> 01:03:33.000
Oh thank god, that's the worst.111301:03:33.639 --> 01:03:34.559
Yeah.111401:03:34.679 --> 01:03:36.079
I feel like we all have at least that one111501:03:36.079 --> 01:03:41.800
friend that moved away. But uh, I've noticed with rats111601:03:42.079 --> 01:03:46.840
that if you raise them from babies, you know, feeding111701:03:46.880 --> 01:03:51.480
them and stuff, they are insanely, insanely friendly and cuddly111801:03:52.320 --> 01:03:53.920
as to where if you get them from a pet store.111901:03:54.000 --> 01:03:55.599
That doesn't mean they won't be it's just a little112001:03:55.599 --> 01:03:57.039
bit more of a roll of the dice about how112101:03:57.079 --> 01:03:59.360
friendly they'll be, because they'll warm up to you. They're112201:03:59.360 --> 01:04:02.239
a mammal, they'll warm up to you. They'll be cool.112301:04:02.239 --> 01:04:05.280
But like if you raised it from a little bean112401:04:05.559 --> 01:04:07.559
and fed it and took care of it with it,112501:04:07.599 --> 01:04:09.519
you know, it'll just really love you.112601:04:10.079 --> 01:04:13.119
Yeah, sometimes you have to be careful with that though,112701:04:13.159 --> 01:04:15.480
because I don't remember. I think it's like pigeons and112801:04:15.480 --> 01:04:20.519
stuff you don't want to like sometimes the animals then112901:04:20.599 --> 01:04:23.360
think that they're a person and then they like start113001:04:23.719 --> 01:04:26.880
like wanting you to be their mate and all.113101:04:26.800 --> 01:04:29.039
The stuff, and then you end up with a monkey113201:04:29.119 --> 01:04:30.119
that rips your face off.113301:04:30.679 --> 01:04:32.639
Yeah, I mean I was talking about pigeons.113401:04:32.719 --> 01:04:35.559
But yeah, okay, fair enough. You should really watch that113501:04:35.599 --> 01:04:37.719
documentary on the Crazy shimp owners.113601:04:37.719 --> 01:04:39.760
Though, no, that's okay.113701:04:39.880 --> 01:04:42.760
The city manager's office did not immediately return a phone113801:04:42.760 --> 01:04:46.159
call seeking comment. San Rafael is in Marin County, about113901:04:46.199 --> 01:04:51.199
twenty miles north of San Francisco. So as if people114001:04:51.239 --> 01:04:53.880
near San Francisco didn't have enough to worry about, now,114101:04:53.920 --> 01:04:56.519
it's like, great, my bicycle stolen and I got bit114201:04:56.559 --> 01:05:01.719
in the face by a goddamn squirrel. Yeah, well, when114301:05:01.760 --> 01:05:04.000
we get back, we're going to talk about some UFO114401:05:04.119 --> 01:05:09.400
hunters planning a bizarre event in Scotland. Right after this,114501:05:16.519 --> 01:05:20.480
we're back and now we're heading over, well, heading back114601:05:20.519 --> 01:05:23.400
to Scotland, because Scotland's got a lot of weird stuff114701:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.679
going on a lot of the time. Gotta admit. This114801:05:26.840 --> 01:05:29.599
article is from the Scottish Sun dot co dot UK.114901:05:30.559 --> 01:05:34.559
The headline is out of this world UFO hunters planned115001:05:34.599 --> 01:05:43.079
bizarre event to summon alien spaceships to Scotland. So apparently115101:05:43.159 --> 01:05:47.119
this is a I was skimming this and it's pretty weird.115201:05:48.159 --> 01:05:49.440
I don't think it's that weird.115301:05:49.920 --> 01:05:53.199
Well, the article starts with the Bonker's plan. We'll see115401:05:53.199 --> 01:05:56.039
a team of paranormal investigators descend on the site of115501:05:56.079 --> 01:06:02.079
Scotland's most famous UFO incident later this month. They will115601:06:02.119 --> 01:06:06.599
try to make peaceful contact with extraterrestrials by using a115701:06:06.639 --> 01:06:12.400
specialist technique developed by a famed US ufologist. The approach115801:06:12.440 --> 01:06:18.199
involves meditate. The approach involves by meditating nice, nice Scottish115901:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.199
son that you guys invented English, do better with it.116001:06:21.440 --> 01:06:25.360
The approach involves meditating in a field and playing sci116101:06:25.400 --> 01:06:31.559
fi sound effects. This article is a little hateful. Yeah,116201:06:31.639 --> 01:06:33.920
I'm used to the Mirror dot co dot uk saying like,116301:06:34.039 --> 01:06:37.800
you know, like selling things like the terrifying plan involves116401:06:37.920 --> 01:06:41.039
dressing like a French maid in a devious attempt to116501:06:41.119 --> 01:06:43.480
stop the you know, like it's like they always sell116601:06:43.519 --> 01:06:50.119
things hard. Malcolm Robinson, a Strange Phenomena of Strange Phenomena Investigations,116701:06:50.440 --> 01:06:53.719
has high hopes the plan could work after participants saw116801:06:53.800 --> 01:07:00.760
flashing lights during a trial run. Oh apparently they all116901:07:00.800 --> 01:07:07.000
tried meditating and saw flashing lights in the sky. Yeah, sure,117001:07:08.880 --> 01:07:11.599
he said. Quote we are trying to bring any off117101:07:11.639 --> 01:07:15.119
world craft into our airspace. There is a desire to117201:07:15.119 --> 01:07:18.000
bring forward these objects which people claim are to be117301:07:18.159 --> 01:07:23.360
UFOs or UAPs UAPs. I hate that. Come on, why117401:07:23.639 --> 01:07:24.480
because it's UFO.117501:07:25.039 --> 01:07:27.719
You don't like unidentified aerial phenomena?117601:07:28.239 --> 01:07:32.039
No, I don't. Fine, it's a flying object and it's117701:07:32.039 --> 01:07:33.480
not identified.117801:07:34.119 --> 01:07:39.079
Okay, something it is not an object though sometimes it's117901:07:39.119 --> 01:07:41.480
just a light or we don't know what it is.118001:07:42.199 --> 01:07:44.519
So that's why we don't say object.118101:07:46.599 --> 01:07:48.199
Okay, I'm still going to do it.118201:07:48.639 --> 01:07:49.159
Okay.118301:07:49.280 --> 01:07:53.840
The meditation will send out a desire for open contact. Quote.118401:07:54.360 --> 01:07:56.480
Oh sorry, the quote's still going. In the background. We118501:07:56.519 --> 01:07:59.480
play these special sound effects which helped enhance the mood118601:07:59.519 --> 01:08:03.599
but also the meditative process. It all sounds very airy fairy.118701:08:03.719 --> 01:08:06.480
I get that, But this has been tried successfully all118801:08:06.519 --> 01:08:10.000
over the world. Has it been tried successfully all over118901:08:10.000 --> 01:08:13.239
the world? Where are all the major UFO encounters? Then?119001:08:14.599 --> 01:08:19.000
I just saw on a show someone meditating to get119101:08:19.000 --> 01:08:23.319
a UFO to come, Yeah, and it did.119201:08:23.920 --> 01:08:26.439
I guess you did air quotes? What do you mean119301:08:26.439 --> 01:08:27.000
by it did?119401:08:27.439 --> 01:08:29.840
It was on TV, so I don't know if it's real.119501:08:30.119 --> 01:08:32.800
It was just on a like you know, one of119601:08:32.840 --> 01:08:34.760
those shows where they look for things like that.119701:08:35.399 --> 01:08:38.359
I mean, in general, in my experience, if it's on TV,119801:08:38.439 --> 01:08:41.039
it's not real. Yeah, like if it was. It's a119901:08:41.039 --> 01:08:43.560
little different nowadays with like camera phones, but I used120001:08:43.560 --> 01:08:45.199
to always say, like, if it's on camera, it's almost120101:08:45.239 --> 01:08:49.560
certainly not real. Which this is a terrible aside, but120201:08:49.600 --> 01:08:51.720
it just made me think of it. Were you a120301:08:51.720 --> 01:08:53.960
mad TV kid? I was a mad TV kid. Oh120401:08:54.039 --> 01:08:56.079
my gosh. They were so great. They were so subversive.120501:08:57.439 --> 01:08:59.199
They really spoke to me as like a teenager. I120601:08:59.199 --> 01:09:00.840
just thought it was really funny. But they did a120701:09:00.880 --> 01:09:05.239
thing about releasing, you know, the Subruder film of Kennedy120801:09:05.279 --> 01:09:09.840
getting shot. They did a video talking about how they120901:09:09.840 --> 01:09:14.079
were releasing a collection of all of the unreleased Subruder films,121001:09:14.119 --> 01:09:17.640
all the unreleased Subruterer home movies, because obviously Subruder was121101:09:17.680 --> 01:09:19.960
really into shooting home movies. That's why he was filming121201:09:20.359 --> 01:09:23.000
at the parade that day. And they start showing like,121301:09:23.039 --> 01:09:26.079
first we'll show Lisa's birthday party, and it's like it's121401:09:26.079 --> 01:09:28.359
on eight millimeter film and everybody's looking all happy and121501:09:28.359 --> 01:09:30.279
the girls like clapping, and then the dad brings out121601:09:30.279 --> 01:09:32.399
the birthday cake with lit candles, and then the side121701:09:32.439 --> 01:09:34.199
of his head just blows out and he falls down121801:09:34.199 --> 01:09:36.560
and everybody runs and covers him in the camera, and121901:09:36.600 --> 01:09:39.159
they basically do like a picnic, and somebody gets shot122001:09:39.199 --> 01:09:41.359
and everybody runs and covers again. All of them are122101:09:41.399 --> 01:09:41.720
the same.122201:09:42.359 --> 01:09:42.760
Wow.122301:09:43.479 --> 01:09:46.199
I'm sorry, but I remember that and it killed me.122401:09:46.239 --> 01:09:50.520
I thought it was so funny. So I'm a bad person,122501:09:50.680 --> 01:09:57.199
I guess, yeah, for liking mad TV. So it involves122601:09:57.239 --> 01:10:02.800
sound effects too. Oh, it a name the CE five method,122701:10:02.960 --> 01:10:06.039
known as the Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind. Protocol122801:10:06.800 --> 01:10:11.199
oh Okay was developed by doctor Stephen Greer, founder of122901:10:11.239 --> 01:10:14.880
the Center for Study of the extra of Extraterrestrial Intelligence.123001:10:15.560 --> 01:10:18.880
The alien enthusiasts will attempt to communicate using telepathy and123101:10:18.920 --> 01:10:23.279
guided meditations, which followers believe will help guide UFOs to123201:10:23.359 --> 01:10:29.640
the spot at the Decmont Woods near Livingston later this month. Yeah,123301:10:29.720 --> 01:10:31.319
So I just want to say, I think I've used123401:10:31.319 --> 01:10:33.680
this example before, but one of my favorite things to123501:10:33.760 --> 01:10:38.199
point out is like when you start combining multiple things123601:10:38.279 --> 01:10:42.640
like meditation, astral projection, and telepathy, you start saying like123701:10:42.640 --> 01:10:44.640
we're gonna use those to catch aliens. It's like saying123801:10:44.720 --> 01:10:47.039
like I'm gonna catch a lockedest monster because if I'm123901:10:47.079 --> 01:10:49.800
riding on the back of a unicorn, there's no way124001:10:50.119 --> 01:10:53.520
it can it could escape me. You know, Like, Yeah,124101:10:53.560 --> 01:10:56.960
you're using things that are also unproven to prove something124201:10:57.000 --> 01:10:57.720
that's unproven.124301:10:58.119 --> 01:11:02.159
Yeah, but then maybe that makes sense because it's all124401:11:02.199 --> 01:11:04.279
in the same gray area and maybe it's all real.124501:11:04.880 --> 01:11:06.560
I mean, it would be cool if it worked, because124601:11:06.560 --> 01:11:07.840
it would prove a lot all at once.124701:11:08.880 --> 01:11:12.119
Yeah, Actually, it wouldn't prove anything that's true because the124801:11:12.159 --> 01:11:14.680
aliens could have just been there, or they could have124901:11:14.840 --> 01:11:18.159
heard the music and been like, what's that so like?125001:11:18.840 --> 01:11:20.039
Basically proves nothing.125101:11:20.640 --> 01:11:22.760
Plus, as in the words of Sarah Connor in an125201:11:22.760 --> 01:11:26.640
Insane World, it was. It was the most sane solution.125301:11:27.439 --> 01:11:28.880
Yeah.125401:11:28.960 --> 01:11:31.680
The site is famous for a nineteen seventy nine incident125501:11:31.760 --> 01:11:35.439
during which forestry worker Bob Taylor reportedly had an encounter125601:11:35.520 --> 01:11:40.239
with a spacecraft. He reputedly saw mysterious dome shaped objects125701:11:40.359 --> 01:11:44.279
landing in a clearing. According to the teetotal church goer,125801:11:44.920 --> 01:11:48.920
metal spikes then dropped down and attached themselves to his trousers.125901:11:49.479 --> 01:11:50.520
Oh this is.126001:11:50.479 --> 01:11:55.600
Getting sexy quick. He later woke in a disheveled state126101:11:55.680 --> 01:11:59.199
before going to the cops. Baffled, investigators were unable to126201:11:59.319 --> 01:12:02.880
establish what caused unusual marks seen on the ground, but126301:12:03.000 --> 01:12:06.840
detectives bagged up Bob's torn trousers as they probed whether126401:12:06.920 --> 01:12:10.600
he had been assaulted. The respected war hero continued to126501:12:10.640 --> 01:12:14.279
maintain he had been attacked by a quote spaceship thing126601:12:14.720 --> 01:12:17.119
until his death at age eighty eight in two thousand126701:12:17.119 --> 01:12:21.000
and seven. Mister Robinson Hope's investigators will be able to126801:12:21.039 --> 01:12:23.800
try to attract aliens back to the site with their126901:12:23.800 --> 01:12:25.680
meditation later this month.127001:12:26.920 --> 01:12:29.239
Whoa we well, hold on for a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah,127101:12:29.279 --> 01:12:33.960
So we're using this location because there was another UFO127201:12:34.000 --> 01:12:38.399
sighting that was literally a guy getting assaulted. That's terrible,127301:12:38.439 --> 01:12:41.319
it's a terrible idea. Don't do that. We don't want it.127401:12:41.399 --> 01:12:43.000
That's not the kind of alien that you.127501:12:43.000 --> 01:12:46.560
Want, right, What kind of alien do you want?127601:12:46.880 --> 01:12:50.479
I didn't think it was one that like assaulted people.127701:12:50.760 --> 01:12:51.159
I don't know.127801:12:51.479 --> 01:12:55.039
Maybe this is what they want. Maybe I am just127901:12:56.199 --> 01:12:57.279
totally confused.128001:12:57.600 --> 01:13:00.239
Did you think for a second, maybe the alien or128101:13:00.279 --> 01:13:03.840
aliens we're just having a really bad day that one time.128201:13:04.600 --> 01:13:08.479
I mean, I get it, things happen when you're having128301:13:08.520 --> 01:13:12.680
a bad day and you're an alien, but it's not nice,128401:13:13.039 --> 01:13:16.359
and I wouldn't want to try again and find out.128501:13:17.760 --> 01:13:19.960
Well, like we just read that story. Are you now128601:13:20.079 --> 01:13:22.960
afraid of squirrels in general? Because of that story of128701:13:23.000 --> 01:13:24.439
one squirrel being awful?128801:13:26.199 --> 01:13:27.520
It's not the same thing?128901:13:28.359 --> 01:13:30.600
How how is it? I feel like it's literally the129001:13:30.640 --> 01:13:31.119
same thing.129101:13:31.399 --> 01:13:35.399
So, like, so there's a squirrel that's real bad, right, Right,129201:13:35.479 --> 01:13:37.600
there are a lot of attacks, So do you decide129301:13:37.640 --> 01:13:40.760
to go to the area of the attacks to communicate129401:13:40.800 --> 01:13:42.119
with squirrels.129501:13:42.159 --> 01:13:47.000
Like, well, it's San Francisco area. It's it's so San Rafael,129601:13:47.119 --> 01:13:48.800
so it's kind of a nice area. So maybe the129701:13:48.800 --> 01:13:49.680
weather's always nice.129801:13:50.079 --> 01:13:52.239
No, I mean, but just to communicate with the squirrels,129901:13:52.239 --> 01:13:54.000
like you're like, I think a really good place is130001:13:54.000 --> 01:13:57.720
where the squirrel attacks happened. Seems like a bad idea.130101:13:58.680 --> 01:14:02.119
Okay, No, I could see that, but I think maybe130201:14:02.119 --> 01:14:03.840
you just don't have enough sense of adventure.130301:14:05.159 --> 01:14:08.960
Yeah. No, maybe they're into things that I'm just not into.130401:14:09.159 --> 01:14:09.880
It's possible.130501:14:12.159 --> 01:14:15.520
A trial run has already taken place on the outskirts130601:14:15.520 --> 01:14:18.560
of bonnie Bridge near Falkirk, which is considered one of130701:14:18.560 --> 01:14:22.079
the UFO the world's UFO capitals. Mister Robinson said quote,130801:14:22.079 --> 01:14:24.359
some people did see some bright flashes in the sky.130901:14:24.720 --> 01:14:27.279
They came from various parts of the sky. We don't131001:14:27.279 --> 01:14:30.000
know what that was. It could have been anything. But131101:14:30.079 --> 01:14:32.479
the only reason I'm not singing and dancing about it131201:14:32.520 --> 01:14:35.880
is there may have been a natural explanation. We previously131301:14:35.880 --> 01:14:40.880
told investigators, or we previously told how investigators have demanded131401:14:40.920 --> 01:14:44.359
a public inquiry in Scotland into the existence of UFOs.131501:14:44.760 --> 01:14:47.720
The alien enthusiasts believe any evidence of sightings should be131601:14:47.800 --> 01:14:53.159
made public and heard in front of a parliamentary committee.131701:14:54.279 --> 01:14:56.680
It's a cover up. They're covering up their haunted roads131801:14:56.680 --> 01:14:58.840
and they're covering up the UFOs.131901:14:59.359 --> 01:14:59.880
Yeah.132001:15:00.199 --> 01:15:03.960
But speaking of cover ups, we're gonna talk about some132101:15:04.279 --> 01:15:11.439
uncovered mummies found in China and Southeast Asia right after this.132201:15:20.399 --> 01:15:24.880
All right, So, cell it looks like, well, first of all,132301:15:25.079 --> 01:15:28.800
when it comes to movie monsters, what's the one you132401:15:28.840 --> 01:15:32.920
find scariest? Like Dracula, the Wolfman, Frankenstein, the Mummy, the132501:15:32.960 --> 01:15:34.560
Invisible Man? What is it?132601:15:35.920 --> 01:15:39.159
I didn't know I found once? I don't really find them?132701:15:39.239 --> 01:15:41.960
Oh my, Why are you always such an absolute chat132801:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.840
about everything? You're just like, I'm not even scared of nothing.132901:15:45.680 --> 01:15:50.960
Yeah, that's you don't know. How about some sort of vampire.133001:15:50.560 --> 01:15:56.279
Saying okay, vampire thing? Okay, jeez, okay, fine. Well, this133101:15:56.359 --> 01:15:58.920
is a true story about mummies, but they're a little133201:15:58.960 --> 01:16:04.319
bit different. This is from LiveScience dot com. World's oldest133301:16:04.399 --> 01:16:08.840
mummies were smoke dried ten thousand years ago in China133401:16:08.960 --> 01:16:12.199
and Southeast Asia. Researchers find that's.133501:16:12.000 --> 01:16:13.399
Such a good idea.133601:16:14.880 --> 01:16:16.039
What makes you say that?133701:16:17.000 --> 01:16:19.239
Well, I mean, that's a good way to dry them like,133801:16:19.239 --> 01:16:20.359
smoke them like that.133901:16:22.760 --> 01:16:28.880
Seem just a sound. I'm very worried about you. We're134001:16:28.920 --> 01:16:34.359
all very worried about you. Cell Oh, I'm just saying134101:16:36.119 --> 01:16:37.840
I feel like they used to just let them dry134201:16:37.880 --> 01:16:40.000
on their own. They didn't smoke them.134301:16:40.279 --> 01:16:42.079
But the thing is, if you don't let them dry134401:16:42.119 --> 01:16:44.239
on their own, it might not work, you know, like134501:16:44.239 --> 01:16:48.079
they might just rot instead of drying. You'd have to134601:16:48.119 --> 01:16:51.319
do like a good special process so that they dry134701:16:51.319 --> 01:16:55.039
out correctly. I just think smoking is a good idea.134801:16:56.840 --> 01:17:00.159
Good to know the world's oldest known human mummies were134901:17:00.199 --> 01:17:04.159
created by smoke drying corpses ten thousand years ago in135001:17:04.239 --> 01:17:09.000
Southeast as Asia and China, long before mummification became commonplace135101:17:09.359 --> 01:17:13.439
in Chile and Egypt. Oh wow, I didn't know Chile135201:17:13.560 --> 01:17:15.720
even has mummies. I told you. Isn't that crazy?135301:17:16.159 --> 01:17:16.720
Yeah.135401:17:17.199 --> 01:17:20.000
A study of dozens of ancient graves found in China,135501:17:20.039 --> 01:17:24.600
the Philippines, Laos, Thailand, Malaysia, and Indonesia revealed that many135601:17:24.680 --> 01:17:27.960
skeletons that were found in a tight fetal possession position135701:17:28.279 --> 01:17:32.039
were treated by an extended period of smoke drying over135801:17:32.159 --> 01:17:34.079
fire before being buried.135901:17:35.479 --> 01:17:37.760
What I said, Wow.136001:17:38.439 --> 01:17:40.239
You like the weirdest things.136101:17:40.479 --> 01:17:41.880
It's just so interesting.136201:17:44.399 --> 01:17:50.760
Quote excuse me sorry. Quote. Smoking likely carried spiritual, religious,136301:17:50.880 --> 01:17:55.079
or cultural meanings that went far beyond simply slowing decay.136401:17:56.039 --> 01:17:59.560
I don't know how to say that name. It's sh136501:17:59.800 --> 01:18:05.640
Io Shao chun Hung. That might be right, actually, Chao136601:18:05.800 --> 01:18:09.760
Chun Hung, a senior research fellow at the Australian National136701:18:09.920 --> 01:18:13.079
University and lead author of the study, told Live Science136801:18:14.039 --> 01:18:18.199
in an email. The researchers have been puzzled by the136901:18:18.279 --> 01:18:21.359
high number of burials in China and Southeast Asia for137001:18:21.479 --> 01:18:24.439
from four thousand to twelve thousand years ago, in which137101:18:24.479 --> 01:18:29.079
skeletons were hyper flexed or contorted in an unnaturally tight137201:18:29.199 --> 01:18:33.399
crouched position. That is kind of weird. Do you want137301:18:33.399 --> 01:18:35.920
to see a picture? Sure of course you do. You're like, yes,137401:18:35.960 --> 01:18:39.000
show me the death, Show me the death. So that's137501:18:39.000 --> 01:18:42.680
one of the smokes skeletons. He isn't like a really137601:18:42.720 --> 01:18:43.720
weird crouched.137701:18:43.439 --> 01:18:45.439
Position, really weird position. Yeah.137801:18:45.479 --> 01:18:50.520
Yeah, that's super super strange. I mean as strange as137901:18:50.800 --> 01:18:58.159
you know, smoke drying corpses. Ugh, oh god, there's more138001:19:01.600 --> 01:19:04.880
or contorted. A similar skeleton found in Portugal in twenty138101:19:04.960 --> 01:19:08.720
twenty two was interpreted as evidence of mummification because it138201:19:08.800 --> 01:19:09.720
was hyperflexed.138301:19:10.239 --> 01:19:10.399
Hm.138401:19:10.960 --> 01:19:14.000
Okay, so my people got in on it. That's fine.138501:19:14.359 --> 01:19:16.560
Likely bound up so the arms and legs could be138601:19:16.640 --> 01:19:20.039
moved beyond their natural limits as the body decomposed.138701:19:21.239 --> 01:19:22.000
Gross.138801:19:22.359 --> 01:19:26.079
Yeah. But in many of the ancient Southeast Asian burials,138901:19:26.079 --> 01:19:29.079
the researchers found there was evidence of burning on the139001:19:29.119 --> 01:19:33.560
skeletons and not in the graves, which suggested some sort139101:19:33.560 --> 01:19:37.479
of ritual treatment of the body that included fire and smoke.139201:19:38.159 --> 01:19:42.000
The researchers used X ray diffraction and non destructive technique139301:19:42.000 --> 01:19:45.600
that allows scientists to investigate the internal microstructure of a material,139401:19:45.840 --> 01:19:50.279
and infrared spectroscopist almost said everything without fucking up spectroscopy139501:19:50.560 --> 01:19:53.279
to assess whether the bones had been exposed to heat.139601:19:53.880 --> 01:19:57.600
Many of the skeletons revealed evidence of low intensity heating139701:19:57.680 --> 01:20:02.199
and discoloration from soot, rather than evidence of direct combustion139801:20:02.439 --> 01:20:03.279
such as cremation.139901:20:03.920 --> 01:20:05.640
Huh, it's so cool that we know that.140001:20:07.560 --> 01:20:09.560
And you're so happy about it. That's the best part.140101:20:10.000 --> 01:20:13.680
This suggests that a specialized mortuary practice involving the smoking140201:20:13.680 --> 01:20:16.800
of a corpse was likely practiced widely in pre farming140301:20:16.840 --> 01:20:20.640
communities across southern China and Southeast Asia. I think what's140401:20:20.680 --> 01:20:23.479
really interesting is that apparently there's no record of that too, Like,140501:20:23.960 --> 01:20:27.479
it's just it's amazing how things can just be completely forgotten.140601:20:27.920 --> 01:20:31.600
Yeah yeah, but here here's a smoked corpse for hl.140701:20:31.640 --> 01:20:36.520
That that's fine. Oh okay, he's really blackened. That's definitely140801:20:36.520 --> 01:20:37.279
Cajun style.140901:20:37.800 --> 01:20:42.319
Yeah yeah, oh wait what smoke?141001:20:42.399 --> 01:20:45.359
Dried mummies are still being made today in parts of141101:20:45.399 --> 01:20:47.840
Southeast Asia, according to the researchers.141201:20:48.800 --> 01:20:50.359
Okay, so they do still do it.141301:20:51.159 --> 01:20:54.960
They traveled to Papau A province in Indonesia in twenty141401:20:55.039 --> 01:20:59.159
nineteen and observed the Dani and Pumo people creating mummies141501:20:59.199 --> 01:21:03.359
of their deceased ancestors by tightly binding the corpses, setting141601:21:03.359 --> 01:21:06.279
them over a fire, and smoking them until they turned141701:21:06.560 --> 01:21:13.319
entirely black or as I would say, Cajun style. Drawing141801:21:13.359 --> 01:21:17.159
on these examples, the researchers concluded that ancient individuals were141901:21:17.199 --> 01:21:20.680
tightly bound after death and smoked for long periods over142001:21:20.760 --> 01:21:25.520
low temperature fires. It literally sounds like making like smoked sausage.142101:21:26.399 --> 01:21:27.960
Yeah yeah.142201:21:28.000 --> 01:21:31.600
Although the deceased individuals, the researchers investigated in their study142301:21:31.600 --> 01:21:35.319
are only bones with no skin, soft tissue, or hair preserved.142401:21:35.720 --> 01:21:38.279
They consider the remains to be mummies because they were142501:21:38.279 --> 01:21:40.800
deliberately mummified through smoke drying.142601:21:41.439 --> 01:21:44.039
Yeah, and I guess in that case, depending on how142701:21:44.079 --> 01:21:46.199
they're buried, it's still not going to last up or142801:21:46.359 --> 01:21:49.199
not last forever their flesh and things.142901:21:49.239 --> 01:21:50.239
Nothing lasts forever.143001:21:51.880 --> 01:21:52.840
Yeah, it does.143101:21:54.000 --> 01:21:55.800
A friend of mine said something like that, made a143201:21:55.840 --> 01:21:58.199
big long post and said like, just remember, nothing last forever.143301:21:58.239 --> 01:22:03.720
And I replied, tell that to gravity, ha I win. Quote.143401:22:04.119 --> 01:22:07.479
The key difference from the mummies we typically imagine is143501:22:07.520 --> 01:22:10.760
that these ancient smoked bodies were not sealed in containers143601:22:10.800 --> 01:22:14.600
after the process, and therefore their preservation generally lasted only143701:22:14.600 --> 01:22:17.960
a few decades to a few hundred years. Hung said,143801:22:18.720 --> 01:22:22.880
only a few hundred years, punks. In the hot and143901:22:22.960 --> 01:22:25.840
humid climate of Southeast Asia, smoking was likely the most144001:22:25.880 --> 01:22:32.600
effective way of preserving the bodies. That makes sense. Yeah,144101:22:32.640 --> 01:22:35.760
But how these ancient hunter gatherers discovered that smoking a144201:22:35.840 --> 01:22:39.680
human body could preserve it quote remains a fascinating and144301:22:39.760 --> 01:22:44.640
thought provoking mystery. Hung said, and quote, we cannot say144401:22:44.640 --> 01:22:47.560
with certainty whether smoking the body was first conceived as144501:22:47.600 --> 01:22:51.800
a way to preserve it. We're making some real cannibalism144601:22:52.920 --> 01:22:53.920
inferences here.144701:22:54.359 --> 01:22:58.079
Well, I mean how they discovered it. I would think144801:22:58.079 --> 01:23:00.680
it would be like a food thing, you know, and144901:23:00.680 --> 01:23:03.079
then they'd be like, oh, we could do this with bodies,145001:23:03.159 --> 01:23:04.800
and then they'd be like, oh, they taste pretty good,145101:23:05.000 --> 01:23:06.520
and then they'd be like, we'd also bury them.145201:23:06.560 --> 01:23:10.239
Though, this is where it gets into pure cope. It's145301:23:10.319 --> 01:23:14.359
possible that ancient people discovered smoking accidentally as a byproduct145401:23:14.399 --> 01:23:17.359
of some kind of ritual practice, or that they discovered145501:23:17.359 --> 01:23:21.319
smoking animal meat first then applied it to dead humans.145601:23:21.479 --> 01:23:26.079
That's just what I say, wink wink quote. What is145701:23:26.119 --> 01:23:29.399
clear is that the practice prolonged the visible presence of145801:23:29.439 --> 01:23:32.479
the deceased, allowing ancestors to remain among the living in145901:23:32.520 --> 01:23:36.600
a tangible way, a poignant reflection of enduring human love, memory,146001:23:36.640 --> 01:23:42.359
and devotion. Also delicious Hung said, I might have added146101:23:42.399 --> 01:23:45.760
one of those things in there. So there you go.146201:23:46.279 --> 01:23:50.560
Michelle likes her corpse's mesquite And we're going to take146301:23:50.600 --> 01:23:53.079
a quick break with a little bit more spooky news146401:23:53.119 --> 01:23:56.119
before we get to our big topic right after this.146501:24:03.600 --> 01:24:05.760
All right, we're back, and this is a story from146601:24:05.800 --> 01:24:09.479
the Associated Press. I always find these stories really creepy146701:24:09.560 --> 01:24:14.399
and fun. I don't know. A Bangkok road collapse creates146801:24:14.439 --> 01:24:19.680
a sinkhole, disrupting traffic and prompting evacuations. I find sinkholes146901:24:19.760 --> 01:24:20.479
really scary.147001:24:20.960 --> 01:24:22.600
Sinkholes are kind of scary. Yeah.147101:24:22.680 --> 01:24:24.560
Oh yeah, you're finally afraid of something. Huh.147201:24:24.680 --> 01:24:28.479
Yeah, I'm scared of sinkholes. There's ale in my neighborhood.147301:24:30.279 --> 01:24:31.119
Did I know about this?147401:24:31.319 --> 01:24:34.159
I feel like I told you. I thought I told everyone.147501:24:34.520 --> 01:24:36.319
No you did because I made a joke about going147601:24:36.399 --> 01:24:36.680
to hell.147701:24:37.399 --> 01:24:39.199
Oh, I don't even I don't remember.147801:24:39.039 --> 01:24:41.079
Which is pretty much what I always say about a sinkhole.147901:24:41.119 --> 01:24:43.479
But I'll tell you something right now, Shelley, You're about148001:24:43.479 --> 01:24:45.640
to be jealous, because this sinkhole is massive.148101:24:46.399 --> 01:24:46.920
Wow.148201:24:47.560 --> 01:24:50.399
Yeah, that's like there's a pickup truck in the middle148301:24:50.399 --> 01:24:52.319
of it, and it looks like there's barely like it's148401:24:52.439 --> 01:24:53.319
teeny tiny.148501:24:54.039 --> 01:24:56.840
Yeah you can tell. I mean by the way that148601:24:57.720 --> 01:25:00.479
the construction around it and stuff. This is a person148701:25:00.560 --> 01:25:04.399
fuck up, like because somebody fucked up and put stuff148801:25:04.399 --> 01:25:05.880
in there they shouldn't put in there.148901:25:06.119 --> 01:25:09.520
Oh, like like jello packets or something.149001:25:09.760 --> 01:25:11.319
Well, I mean it could have been like where you149101:25:11.359 --> 01:25:14.560
grew up, where they just threw remnants of carpet and149201:25:14.760 --> 01:25:18.920
tree trunks and everything they could find, and then it149301:25:18.960 --> 01:25:24.319
became a sinkhole. Multiple sinkholes everywhere show off.149401:25:24.880 --> 01:25:28.039
A part of a road in Bangkok collapsed Wednesday, leaving149501:25:28.079 --> 01:25:32.199
a large sinkhole that disrupted traffic, damaged infrastructure, and prompted149601:25:32.199 --> 01:25:35.880
evacuations in the surrounding area. There were no casualties, but149701:25:36.000 --> 01:25:40.000
three vehicles were damaged by the collapse in Thailand's capital, Bangkok,149801:25:41.319 --> 01:25:47.239
City Governor Chadhart City Punt said, adding that officials believe149901:25:47.359 --> 01:25:50.520
the collapse was caused by construction work at an underground150001:25:50.520 --> 01:25:53.520
train station. M M, that's less fun.150101:25:53.560 --> 01:25:56.560
But okay, yeah, it's barely a sinkhole. Then if it's150201:25:56.640 --> 01:25:57.840
just they fucked.150301:25:57.560 --> 01:26:03.840
Up something, Wow, you're ag grow today. Shell. People love150401:26:03.920 --> 01:26:07.479
spicy Michelle. They always comment when you're angry that they150501:26:07.520 --> 01:26:11.439
love it. So I'm just saying. Videos of the collapse150601:26:11.479 --> 01:26:14.279
showed the face of the road slowly sinking, pulling down150701:26:14.359 --> 01:26:18.279
several electricity poles and damaging water pipes. Cars tried to150801:26:18.319 --> 01:26:21.560
back away as the hole grew larger and completely severed150901:26:21.560 --> 01:26:24.600
the four lane road. One edge of the hole stopped151001:26:24.600 --> 01:26:27.920
in front of a police station, exposing it its underground structure.151101:26:28.760 --> 01:26:31.439
People were evacuated from the police station and other buildings.151201:26:31.720 --> 01:26:34.600
The nearby hospitals said it would close the outpatient's services151301:26:34.600 --> 01:26:37.920
for two days, although Bangkok City officials said the hospital151401:26:38.000 --> 01:26:42.439
structure was not affected. Officials cut electricity and water in151501:26:42.479 --> 01:26:45.840
the area as a precaution. Chad Chart said crews were151601:26:45.880 --> 01:26:48.640
working to fix the hole as quickly as possible, fearing151701:26:48.720 --> 01:26:53.119
heavy rain could cause further damage. Bangkok is experiencing its151801:26:53.199 --> 01:26:58.279
rainy season, which typically extends from May through October. Damn151901:26:59.399 --> 01:27:02.159
not a great I'm to be in Bangkok. I don't think. No.152001:27:03.479 --> 01:27:05.880
So well, we have another short one that I wanted152101:27:05.960 --> 01:27:10.399
to talk about from the Huffington Post. Wow, talking about152201:27:10.479 --> 01:27:14.279
the fear of wild animals. I think this is actually152301:27:14.319 --> 01:27:18.479
pretty prudent. Yeah, have you ever have you ever been152401:27:18.720 --> 01:27:21.880
as a homeowner or or just as an adult, have152501:27:21.920 --> 01:27:29.920
you ever been ding dong ditched? It's a lot of thought.152601:27:30.079 --> 01:27:34.119
Okay, yeah, no, I don't know. I don't I don't152701:27:34.119 --> 01:27:34.439
think so.152801:27:37.000 --> 01:27:39.239
Would it creep you out if somebody rang your doorbell152901:27:39.279 --> 01:27:41.199
at like one in the morning and then there was153001:27:41.239 --> 01:27:41.880
nobody there.153101:27:42.520 --> 01:27:44.239
It would definitely creep me out if somebody rang my153201:27:44.359 --> 01:27:46.720
doorbell at one in the morning, regardless.153301:27:46.199 --> 01:27:48.159
So yeah, would you go down and answer it?153401:27:48.960 --> 01:27:53.680
I answered once at like twelve, maybe a little bit153501:27:53.720 --> 01:27:55.600
earlier than that. It was my neighbor and they had153601:27:55.680 --> 01:27:58.000
got a package. That was my package.153701:27:58.880 --> 01:28:01.000
They must work late, or they were just like, this153801:28:01.039 --> 01:28:01.560
is the time.153901:28:01.880 --> 01:28:04.039
I think they were just like, let's just wait until154001:28:04.159 --> 01:28:06.319
she's definitely still a way because her lights are on,154101:28:06.399 --> 01:28:10.159
but she's absolutely absolutely asleep on the couch. Yeah, then154201:28:10.199 --> 01:28:11.680
we can go ring her doorbell.154301:28:11.960 --> 01:28:16.319
There we go. Well, this is a different spin. The154401:28:16.359 --> 01:28:20.199
headline from huff Post is late night doorbell prank mystery154501:28:20.399 --> 01:28:23.720
solved with a very strange twist.154601:28:24.000 --> 01:28:26.479
I think I know what it is, but we'll say.154701:28:27.319 --> 01:28:31.399
Residents had an apartment block in Schwabach, southern Germany. You154801:28:31.720 --> 01:28:34.640
think I hate you. I believe late night pranksters were154901:28:34.680 --> 01:28:39.119
to blame for their doorbells buzzing NonStop, but when police arrived,155001:28:39.439 --> 01:28:44.239
they found a much slimier source of the annoyance, reported155101:28:44.319 --> 01:28:48.000
multiple media outlets. It turned out that a small slug155201:28:50.600 --> 01:28:52.920
look on your face is great. A small slug had155301:28:52.920 --> 01:28:55.880
been sliding up and down the bell plate and repeatedly155401:28:55.960 --> 01:29:01.800
triggering the sensors. Yeah, that'll do it. This snale hates155501:29:01.840 --> 01:29:03.760
people too, and that's why it's doing it. It's like,155601:29:03.800 --> 01:29:05.239
no sleep, you can't sleep.155701:29:05.760 --> 01:29:07.720
No, I wanted to meet some of them.155801:29:07.520 --> 01:29:11.439
I feel like you're trying to you're over correcting. Now155901:29:11.479 --> 01:29:13.880
you're like, no, no, it's fine. Animals are nice. They156001:29:13.920 --> 01:29:14.439
like people.156101:29:15.359 --> 01:29:18.159
Yeah, really good.156201:29:18.560 --> 01:29:22.680
So oh okay, I get that. After initially coming up156301:29:22.720 --> 01:29:26.800
short in their investigation, police officers eventually caught the mischievous156401:29:26.880 --> 01:29:31.760
mollusk in the act. It was quote brought down to size,156501:29:31.920 --> 01:29:34.720
taught about its territory boundaries, and placed on a nearby156601:29:34.800 --> 01:29:38.319
stretch of grass. Police sawce. I like, how they treat156701:29:38.359 --> 01:29:40.760
this slug better than they treat people who post memes156801:29:40.800 --> 01:29:50.560
criticizing their government. Germany acting like Germany anyway. It's It's156901:29:50.600 --> 01:29:53.199
not the first time a slug has sparked such confusion.157001:29:53.600 --> 01:29:56.239
Back in twenty twenty one, a woman in Essex, England,157101:29:56.640 --> 01:29:59.479
was woken in the night by her doorbell ringing. She157201:29:59.600 --> 01:30:01.880
discovered it was triggered by a slug.157301:30:02.640 --> 01:30:04.199
Huh apparently they just do this.157401:30:04.359 --> 01:30:06.920
Huh, well, it makes sense. I mean they would they157501:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.520
can activate things that you know, you would need like157601:30:09.640 --> 01:30:13.239
a finger to touch because it's warm, so makes sense157701:30:13.239 --> 01:30:15.319
the slug could do that and they'd crawl over stuff157801:30:15.319 --> 01:30:16.319
that's like their favorite thing.157901:30:16.760 --> 01:30:17.079
Yeah.158001:30:17.119 --> 01:30:20.439
Since they stick, they can just go anywhere they want. Yeah,158101:30:20.680 --> 01:30:26.279
must be nice. Yeah, lucky quote. I was a bit158201:30:26.319 --> 01:30:29.279
freaked out first, and then when I played it back,158301:30:29.479 --> 01:30:33.039
I started laughing. Leanne Jennings recalled at the time when158401:30:33.079 --> 01:30:35.159
I showed my friends, they were a bit freaked out.158501:30:35.399 --> 01:30:37.479
They gave me the kind of look they thought, like158601:30:37.560 --> 01:30:40.000
they thought there was a ghost or an alien or something.158701:30:41.720 --> 01:30:45.840
I mean they're alien like m I mean.158801:30:45.960 --> 01:30:47.399
We don't know what aliens are like.158901:30:47.520 --> 01:30:50.720
But yeah, well you seem to think that they all159001:30:50.840 --> 01:30:52.960
are just like violent offenders.159101:30:53.800 --> 01:30:56.399
Well just the ones that seem to have a history159201:30:56.439 --> 01:30:56.680
of it.159301:30:57.439 --> 01:31:05.279
Wow. Wow, wow wow.159401:31:05.399 --> 01:31:06.640
I'm not going to take it back.159501:31:07.159 --> 01:31:11.439
Oh okay, you know I respect that. I respect that.159601:31:12.279 --> 01:31:15.479
For now, we're going to take a quick break, and159701:31:15.520 --> 01:31:17.239
when we get back, we're going to dive into this159801:31:17.359 --> 01:31:21.359
Library of Congress article about the origins of Halloween traditions159901:31:21.359 --> 01:31:24.520
to help you, the listener, get into the weekly into160001:31:24.520 --> 01:31:28.159
the spooky. Sorry, vibe. That's our whole thing is making160101:31:28.159 --> 01:31:32.079
sure spooky season is as fun as humanly possible, and160201:31:32.119 --> 01:31:43.119
we'll be getting to that right after this. All right, Shelle,160301:31:43.199 --> 01:31:46.279
we're back, and we're taking a look at this Library160401:31:46.319 --> 01:31:52.039
of Congress article about the origins of Halloween traditions. Because160501:31:52.319 --> 01:31:54.159
I don't know about you. I know we talk about160601:31:54.159 --> 01:31:55.920
Halloween a lot over the last few years on the160701:31:55.960 --> 01:31:59.039
show and in their friendship in general. But I've always160801:31:59.119 --> 01:32:02.359
loved Halloween, and I think that what started it for160901:32:02.439 --> 01:32:07.079
me with the TV specials. Yeah, like when TGIF would161001:32:07.119 --> 01:32:11.479
be all scary episodes, that was like the best thing ever.161101:32:12.720 --> 01:32:15.319
And then I remember, like one year we had a161201:32:15.840 --> 01:32:20.119
scholastic book fair at my elementary school, like in October,161301:32:20.840 --> 01:32:23.560
right before it or somewhere in that neighborhood, and I161401:32:23.680 --> 01:32:29.319
bought my first Garfield book and it was Garfield in Disguise,161501:32:29.399 --> 01:32:33.560
which is the Garfield Halloween story. And ever since then,161601:32:33.600 --> 01:32:37.840
I was always like, really really really into Halloween. And161701:32:37.920 --> 01:32:40.319
of course at trigger treating getting candies all awesome too.161801:32:41.079 --> 01:32:44.920
But I just love the vibe. I love the sense161901:32:44.920 --> 01:32:48.159
that everybody's a little bit more fun and spooky, especially162001:32:48.199 --> 01:32:50.479
as somebody who like I love spooky stuff all year round,162101:32:50.600 --> 01:32:53.720
obviously because I, you know, dedicate so much of my162201:32:53.760 --> 01:32:56.800
time every single week to bringing spooky stuff out for people.162301:32:57.640 --> 01:33:00.720
So the idea that everybody's kind of on the fun162401:33:00.840 --> 01:33:02.640
is really cool. I guess this is This must be162501:33:02.640 --> 01:33:07.039
how alcoholics feel on New Year's Eve. Maybe they're like,162601:33:07.119 --> 01:33:11.199
finally I get everybody gets me. Yeah, but yeah, that's162701:33:11.239 --> 01:33:13.960
that's kind of how I feel when it comes to Halloween.162801:33:14.000 --> 01:33:16.720
What about you? Do you remember any like really fond162901:33:17.000 --> 01:33:18.720
memories of early memories of Halloween?163001:33:20.039 --> 01:33:20.199
Oh?163101:33:20.960 --> 01:33:21.239
Fair?163201:33:21.640 --> 01:33:25.199
I mean yeah, I mean I one year it rained163301:33:25.239 --> 01:33:29.600
really hard. I remember that I was I was a163401:33:29.680 --> 01:33:33.880
win as a witch. Oh had lots of green paint163501:33:33.960 --> 01:33:34.359
on me and.163601:33:37.399 --> 01:33:40.399
Should have used grease paint, yeah.163701:33:39.960 --> 01:33:43.079
But I didn't because I was five.163801:33:44.760 --> 01:33:47.680
My favorite was the year it snowed heavily, like two163901:33:47.760 --> 01:33:51.399
days before Halloween. We had like serious snow on the ground,164001:33:51.399 --> 01:33:53.680
and I was so mad because Mom made me wear164101:33:53.720 --> 01:33:55.840
a jacket over my ninja outfit.164201:33:56.159 --> 01:33:56.960
Ye sucks.164301:33:57.079 --> 01:34:01.800
There's nothing worse than that, Yeah, other than being a164401:34:01.880 --> 01:34:04.199
kid and finding the perfect mask and realizing it can't164501:34:04.199 --> 01:34:06.920
fit you. Oh, you know, you put it on and164601:34:06.920 --> 01:34:08.720
it's like I could see through the nose hoole. It's164701:34:08.760 --> 01:34:10.960
like you're not going around the neighborhood looking through the164801:34:11.000 --> 01:34:16.359
note hole all night. They're like, ah beans. So anyway,164901:34:17.319 --> 01:34:19.920
I just love Halloween. It's also why I think I165001:34:20.000 --> 01:34:21.880
love and I think a lot of people love horror165101:34:21.880 --> 01:34:24.600
movie hosts, which is worth mentioning because I did get165201:34:24.640 --> 01:34:26.840
inducted into the Horror Host Hall of Fame like a165301:34:26.880 --> 01:34:30.520
few weeks ago, But is because a lot of those165401:34:30.560 --> 01:34:33.840
horror hosts in the early days especially were like newsmen165501:34:33.960 --> 01:34:39.199
and broadcasters putting on fright wigs and grease paint and165601:34:39.319 --> 01:34:42.960
vampire fangs and acting goofy to introduce these movies and165701:34:42.960 --> 01:34:45.479
try to make basically trying to make each other laugh165801:34:45.479 --> 01:34:48.039
in the studio. I think there's a lot of charm165901:34:48.039 --> 01:34:50.039
to that because these are like, especially if you think166001:34:50.079 --> 01:34:52.960
of like the sixties and seventies, broadcast people were like166101:34:53.000 --> 01:34:56.600
the most adult people there were, you know, Walter Cronkite166201:34:56.640 --> 01:34:59.560
and stuff like it just you know, hello and welcome166301:34:59.560 --> 01:35:02.960
to the new of Pittsburgh. And then it's like one166401:35:03.000 --> 01:35:06.800
of my favorites is Bill Cardile, who went by Chili166501:35:06.840 --> 01:35:13.840
Billy on Pittsburgh on Pittsburgh Chiller Theater. He didn't do anything,166601:35:13.880 --> 01:35:15.800
he didn't put makeup on or anything. He was just166701:35:15.880 --> 01:35:19.279
so people just loved him. He would just be funnier,166801:35:19.359 --> 01:35:21.920
you know, because he would like literally you could watch166901:35:22.000 --> 01:35:25.119
the Pittsburgh news channels and he would do on the167001:35:25.119 --> 01:35:28.039
street reports, he would do the pro wrestling live like167101:35:28.319 --> 01:35:31.319
sports segments and stuff, and then he hosted horror movies167201:35:31.319 --> 01:35:35.239
on Saturday nights. Okay, but a lot of people, and167301:35:35.319 --> 01:35:37.680
this is something really interesting, and I'll get back on topic,167401:35:38.359 --> 01:35:40.399
a lot of people you had to work a lot167501:35:40.479 --> 01:35:44.399
of jobs to maintain your gig. There, a lot of167601:35:44.399 --> 01:35:47.840
people ended up doing nightly news stuff and then to167701:35:47.920 --> 01:35:51.119
supplement at the same station. They would not only then167801:35:51.159 --> 01:35:56.680
do a horror host other character, they would also portray167901:35:56.760 --> 01:36:00.920
Bozo the Clown. Oh, because for a long period of168001:36:00.960 --> 01:36:06.159
time there was a Bosa the Clown in most major territories.168101:36:06.399 --> 01:36:07.159
That's terrifying.168201:36:07.880 --> 01:36:11.560
My friend Dick Daizelle, he was a newsman who portrayed168301:36:11.560 --> 01:36:16.520
Count Gore Deval in Washington, d C. And Baltimore, and168401:36:16.560 --> 01:36:23.279
he was also Bosa the Clown. Yeah, so anyway, I168501:36:23.359 --> 01:36:25.039
just love stuff like that. But yeah, my point is168601:36:25.039 --> 01:36:26.680
that like that was the best because it was like,168701:36:26.680 --> 01:36:29.000
you got to see adults dressing in their Halloween costumes.168801:36:29.520 --> 01:36:31.560
And that's what makes Halloween specials fun too, is they're168901:36:31.720 --> 01:36:36.079
usually adults dressing up in Halloween costumes. Yeah, so back169001:36:36.079 --> 01:36:39.479
to the article from the Library of Congress. Carving pumpkins,169101:36:39.479 --> 01:36:42.319
tricker treating, and wearing scary costumes are some of the169201:36:42.399 --> 01:36:47.399
time honored traditions of Halloween. Yet, Halloween, the holiday has169301:36:47.439 --> 01:36:51.079
its roots in the ancient Celtic festival of Soween or169401:36:51.159 --> 01:36:53.000
sam Hayne, depending on how you want to say it.169501:36:53.079 --> 01:36:57.640
Soween is the Gaelic pronunciation a pig and religious celebration169601:36:57.800 --> 01:37:00.279
to welcome the harvest at the end of summer, when169701:37:00.319 --> 01:37:05.279
people would light bonfires and wear costumes to ward off ghosts.169801:37:06.239 --> 01:37:10.439
In the eighth century, Pope Gregory the third designated November169901:37:10.560 --> 01:37:14.520
first as a time to honor Saints. Soon after, All170001:37:14.600 --> 01:37:18.319
Saints Day came to incorporate some of the traditions of Salwyn.170101:37:18.720 --> 01:37:21.920
The evening before All Saints Day was known as All170201:37:22.359 --> 01:37:28.000
Hallows Eve and later Halloween. Here's a look at the170301:37:28.039 --> 01:37:31.840
origins of some of the classic Halloween traditions we know today.170401:37:33.039 --> 01:37:36.760
Carving jack o' lanterns. You love carving jacke lanterns, don't you.170501:37:37.000 --> 01:37:38.319
I mean, because I've carved them with you.170601:37:38.920 --> 01:37:41.319
Yeah.170701:37:41.680 --> 01:37:43.920
The only hard part is, like I get so excited.170801:37:43.960 --> 01:37:46.159
I finally cut back on this. I used to get170901:37:46.159 --> 01:37:48.359
so excited with carve jack lanterns, like the moment they171001:37:48.359 --> 01:37:49.399
had pumpkins for sale.171101:37:49.640 --> 01:37:50.600
Yeah, you can't do that.171201:37:50.880 --> 01:37:53.119
Yeah, they'd be I mean, unless you're having a really171301:37:53.199 --> 01:37:56.560
and I mean really cold October, they're going to rot171401:37:56.600 --> 01:37:57.920
substantially quickly.171501:37:58.239 --> 01:37:58.600
Yeah.171601:37:58.680 --> 01:38:00.560
Yeah, I have had a few years where like one171701:38:00.680 --> 01:38:02.600
put up in the middle of October because it's like171801:38:02.640 --> 01:38:06.039
not getting above fifty. It don't get too bad. They're171901:38:06.079 --> 01:38:08.359
still gonna rod a little bit. You. It helps if172001:38:08.399 --> 01:38:11.279
you spray the inside with bleach, with a bleach bleach172101:38:11.319 --> 01:38:16.680
and waters, it makes it decay slower. Dude.172201:38:16.840 --> 01:38:18.239
You should just smoke it like.172301:38:20.800 --> 01:38:25.960
Solid callback, solid callback. The tradition of carving jack o172401:38:26.039 --> 01:38:30.720
lanterns originated in Ireland using turnips instead of pumpkins. Have172501:38:30.800 --> 01:38:32.920
you ever thought about carving a turn up just to see?172601:38:33.880 --> 01:38:36.720
It would probably be super annoying because they're they're really172701:38:36.760 --> 01:38:39.119
solid on the inside and also they're not very big.172801:38:39.600 --> 01:38:43.279
No, no, that sounds like so much work. Yeah, like172901:38:43.319 --> 01:38:45.920
an incredible amount of work. But apparently they look really creepy.173001:38:48.000 --> 01:38:49.560
Yeah yeah.173101:38:49.720 --> 01:38:52.640
It is allegedly based on a legend about a man173201:38:52.720 --> 01:38:56.680
named Stingy Jack, who repeatedly trapped the devil and only173301:38:56.760 --> 01:38:59.479
let him go on the condition that Jack would never173401:38:59.560 --> 01:39:03.000
go to hell. Well, but when Jack died, he learned173501:39:03.039 --> 01:39:06.199
that heaven did not want his soul either, so he173601:39:06.319 --> 01:39:09.760
was forced to wander the earth as a ghost for eternity.173701:39:10.920 --> 01:39:13.960
I mean that sounds okay to me. It's sure you.173801:39:13.880 --> 01:39:15.960
Want to wander the earth as a ghost for eternity?173901:39:16.720 --> 01:39:18.319
Sure?174001:39:18.359 --> 01:39:19.840
Like yeah, I mean depends on what's on TV.174101:39:20.239 --> 01:39:21.079
Yeah, exactly.174201:39:22.720 --> 01:39:26.319
The devil gave Jack a burning lump of coal in174301:39:26.359 --> 01:39:31.039
a carved out turnip to light his way. What do174401:39:31.079 --> 01:39:32.680
you think The devil just did like a bunch of174501:39:32.760 --> 01:39:35.359
like mescaline and acid and carved a turn up. I174601:39:35.399 --> 01:39:36.520
was like, whoa. And then when he came to you,174701:39:36.600 --> 01:39:39.800
He's like, uh, here you go light your way with this, bro.174801:39:41.279 --> 01:39:45.600
Locals eventually began carving scary faces into their own turnips174901:39:46.039 --> 01:39:51.359
to frighten away evil spirits. And speaking of spirits, this175001:39:51.520 --> 01:39:56.319
next Halloween, tradition is all about seeing ghosts, and we'll175101:39:56.319 --> 01:40:06.600
talk about it. Right after this, the Festival of sam175201:40:06.680 --> 01:40:09.920
Hayne marked the transition to the new year at the175301:40:10.039 --> 01:40:13.239
end of the harvest and beginning of the winter. Celtic175401:40:13.319 --> 01:40:17.399
people believed that during the festival, spirits walked the earth.175501:40:18.199 --> 01:40:22.439
Later on, Christian missionaries introduced All Souls Day on November two,175601:40:22.840 --> 01:40:26.920
which perpetuated the idea of the living coming into contact175701:40:26.920 --> 01:40:29.479
with the dead around the same time of the year.175801:40:30.199 --> 01:40:37.159
So another tradition is seeing ghosts. Mm hmm, what why175901:40:37.199 --> 01:40:38.000
are you making that face?176001:40:38.399 --> 01:40:40.439
No, I don't know, that's fine.176101:40:42.039 --> 01:40:45.920
Another tradition wearing scary costumes, which, by the way, have176201:40:45.960 --> 01:40:48.800
you looked at like old timey Halloween costumes. They're mortifying.176301:40:48.920 --> 01:40:51.600
Yeah, they're really upset. And yeah.176401:40:51.640 --> 01:40:54.760
There was this whole era where it was perfectly acceptable176501:40:54.800 --> 01:40:57.760
to wear a full face mask of a thing, and176601:40:58.119 --> 01:41:00.239
no matter how terrifying it looked, they'd be like, yeah,176701:41:00.239 --> 01:41:03.159
that's Santa Claus. It's like, no, that's a fake face176801:41:03.640 --> 01:41:07.520
with rosy cheeks and a beard. Yeah that's Santa No,176901:41:07.640 --> 01:41:08.640
that looks horrifying.177001:41:09.199 --> 01:41:10.560
Noah.177101:41:12.560 --> 01:41:16.279
In order to avoid being terrorized by all the evil spirits,177201:41:16.319 --> 01:41:20.439
walking the earth during Sowyn the Celt's Dawn disguises in177301:41:20.560 --> 01:41:23.760
order to confuse the spirits and be left alone. That's177401:41:23.760 --> 01:41:26.640
one of my favorite Halloween lores is that the costume177501:41:26.680 --> 01:41:30.760
is what keeps you safe. In some of the versions,177601:41:31.359 --> 01:41:33.479
the costume is just so that they don't know who177701:41:33.560 --> 01:41:36.479
you are. Yeah, you know, because the spirits are specific.177801:41:37.439 --> 01:41:39.199
And then in later ones that were a little bit177901:41:39.279 --> 01:41:43.000
nicer about the idea of souls coming back, instead of saying, like,178001:41:43.039 --> 01:41:44.840
you know, your grandpa's coming to whoop your ass because178101:41:44.840 --> 01:41:48.319
like you sold the farm, then it became that you're178201:41:48.439 --> 01:41:53.039
dressing up to blend in with all the spirits and178301:41:53.119 --> 01:41:56.199
scary things, which is the cuter kid version. But yeah,178401:41:56.199 --> 01:41:58.680
originally it was like dressed like somebody else because your178501:41:58.720 --> 01:42:01.000
dead dad might come and freaking kill you.178601:42:01.479 --> 01:42:07.039
Yeah awkwards. Yeah, and he's not going to know if178701:42:07.039 --> 01:42:09.439
you dress weird because he's not that smart.178801:42:09.920 --> 01:42:10.960
No, he's not that smart.178901:42:11.479 --> 01:42:11.960
Yeah.179001:42:12.439 --> 01:42:13.840
Next up is trick or treating?179101:42:14.680 --> 01:42:15.079
Mm hmm.179201:42:15.800 --> 01:42:19.640
Have you been getting better trigger treaters lately? Do you do?179301:42:19.760 --> 01:42:22.239
Okay? I do, I do, find but I have been179401:42:22.279 --> 01:42:26.159
a doing okay since I moved, so yeah, yeah, I.179501:42:26.159 --> 01:42:27.960
Remember handed candy out with you that one time they179601:42:28.000 --> 01:42:31.720
were almost none. I feel like that was in Lansdowne.179701:42:32.319 --> 01:42:34.720
Oh yeah, yeah, I was sorry. I was thinking about179801:42:34.800 --> 01:42:37.720
the other person who handed candy out with me last year,179901:42:37.760 --> 01:42:38.560
who was my dad?180001:42:39.119 --> 01:42:40.319
So yeah that was your dad.180101:42:40.600 --> 01:42:43.119
Yeah but no, Yeah in Lansdown there was like nobody180201:42:43.279 --> 01:42:46.720
because it's dangerous, and then their kids going all the.180301:42:46.720 --> 01:42:48.119
Way and now it's becoming hip.180401:42:49.079 --> 01:42:50.159
I'm so upset.180501:42:51.520 --> 01:42:54.000
Michelle's old hometown is becoming at a home. Well, it180601:42:54.000 --> 01:42:57.520
was your hometown, your home was there, Yeah, is becoming180701:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.479
hip and cool. When it was a cess pool of180801:43:00.720 --> 01:43:02.800
scariness for a while, it was like it wasn't the180901:43:02.800 --> 01:43:04.840
worst place. I don't want to oversell it.181001:43:05.399 --> 01:43:08.119
Well it's it's it's not also not fair because like181101:43:08.279 --> 01:43:11.760
it's not a large town, but it's very different in181201:43:11.800 --> 01:43:12.600
different areas.181301:43:13.079 --> 01:43:13.399
Yeah.181401:43:13.439 --> 01:43:16.640
So the place that's becoming hip was never dangerous or bad,181501:43:16.680 --> 01:43:19.359
it just wasn't hip. So I don't know how far181601:43:19.439 --> 01:43:21.600
south the hip is going, you.181701:43:21.560 --> 01:43:26.199
Know, Yeah, maybe one day we'll know. But uh, my neighborhood,181801:43:26.239 --> 01:43:28.600
it seems like every year we're getting even more trigger treaters.181901:43:28.600 --> 01:43:30.479
And we had bad weather two years in a row,182001:43:31.159 --> 01:43:32.800
and still had a lot of kids. So I'm hoping182101:43:32.840 --> 01:43:35.439
this year will have clear skies, no rain at all,182201:43:35.720 --> 01:43:37.960
and no and I can and I can just help182301:43:38.000 --> 01:43:39.880
these kids with handfuls of candy. That's like what I182401:43:39.880 --> 01:43:41.880
want to do. My favorite thing is when a kid's182501:43:41.920 --> 01:43:43.840
too afraid to come up and take their candy, so182601:43:43.880 --> 01:43:45.279
I have to give it to another kid to give182701:43:45.279 --> 01:43:47.399
to them, knowing that they'll just eat it themselves.182801:43:47.760 --> 01:43:49.079
Yeah.182901:43:49.119 --> 01:43:52.000
But uh. There is much debate around the origins of183001:43:52.039 --> 01:43:57.359
trick or treating, but generally there are three theories. The183101:43:57.359 --> 01:44:01.640
first theory suggests that sand salweing Celtic people would that183201:44:01.760 --> 01:44:05.039
on sowing, Celtic people would leave food out to appease183301:44:05.079 --> 01:44:08.880
the spirits traveling to the earth at night. Over time,183401:44:09.039 --> 01:44:12.560
people began to dress as these unearthly beings in exchange183501:44:12.560 --> 01:44:16.680
for similar offerings of food and drink. That's an interesting183601:44:16.760 --> 01:44:19.600
thing to think about too, because having a meal for183701:44:19.720 --> 01:44:22.439
somebody to not be eaten for somebody who's dead is183801:44:22.479 --> 01:44:29.199
a very long standing tradition. Also, wassaul, you know wassail183901:44:29.399 --> 01:44:32.920
from Christmas time. It's a kind of a similar thing.184001:44:32.960 --> 01:44:35.079
You make it to appease the spirits. But also like184101:44:35.199 --> 01:44:40.079
people come around singing and you give it to them.184201:44:40.199 --> 01:44:43.640
The second theory speculates that the candy boon stems from184301:44:43.680 --> 01:44:48.199
the Scottish practice of guysing, which is a secular version184401:44:48.439 --> 01:44:53.560
of souling. During the Middle Ages, generally children and poor184501:44:53.600 --> 01:44:57.000
adults would collect food and money from local homes in184601:44:57.039 --> 01:45:00.880
return for prayers for the dead on Soul's Day. It's184701:45:00.880 --> 01:45:04.119
almost like a sin eater, but not quite. I guess184801:45:04.239 --> 01:45:09.399
I don't know about sas No. Really, Yes, there was184901:45:09.479 --> 01:45:12.760
a time in old like I think it was Scotland185001:45:12.800 --> 01:45:17.560
or Ireland, when people like derelicts and poor people and185101:45:17.600 --> 01:45:20.399
mentally ill people would take jobs as what we're called185201:45:20.439 --> 01:45:23.159
sin eaters. Oh man, I need to do a terrifying185301:45:23.199 --> 01:45:26.479
and true on sin eating and this is a real thing.185401:45:27.640 --> 01:45:30.800
You would pay them in money to eat a meal185501:45:31.000 --> 01:45:34.079
off of the corps's chest in their viewing.185601:45:35.119 --> 01:45:35.600
Wow.185701:45:36.000 --> 01:45:39.840
And the idea was that the sin that the person185801:45:39.880 --> 01:45:43.439
committed in their life would be in the food, and185901:45:43.479 --> 01:45:45.960
by eating it, the sin eater takes all the sin186001:45:46.319 --> 01:45:49.600
on themselves for a fee. So basically they're like a surrogate.186101:45:49.640 --> 01:45:51.760
They'll take all the punishment for the sin when they186201:45:51.800 --> 01:45:57.159
die one day it's a really old, eerie thing. But186301:45:57.319 --> 01:46:00.880
sin Eaters, Yeah, dude, I can't. You've never heard about186401:46:00.920 --> 01:46:05.600
sin Eaters. That's wild. Yeah, it's really creepy. It's a186501:46:05.640 --> 01:46:08.760
really creepy thing. Yeah, I'm gonna totally I gotta put186601:46:08.760 --> 01:46:10.760
sin Eaters on the Terrifying and True list because that186701:46:10.760 --> 01:46:12.239
would be one to do a deep dive about.186801:46:12.680 --> 01:46:13.039
Yeah.186901:46:13.640 --> 01:46:17.720
Oh, that's a perfect one. Oh a spoiler for anybody187001:46:17.760 --> 01:46:20.199
who's been you know, kind enough to listen so far187101:46:20.239 --> 01:46:24.560
in I'll give you a hint. In a December, I'm187201:46:24.600 --> 01:46:26.600
doing a terrifying and true that's a deep dive on187301:46:26.680 --> 01:46:30.479
how friggin dangerous Christmas was in the Victorian era. How187401:46:30.560 --> 01:46:33.279
like all the lights and stuff caused constant like fires187501:46:33.319 --> 01:46:36.199
to break out, and toys were killing people. It's like187601:46:36.279 --> 01:46:39.439
all of the dangers of a Victorian Christmas.187701:46:39.680 --> 01:46:39.960
Cool.187801:46:40.479 --> 01:46:42.520
I'm really excited about that one. So I thought i'd187901:46:42.560 --> 01:46:48.000
spill the beans a little bit. So Geysers dropped the188001:46:48.039 --> 01:46:51.640
prayers in favor of non religious practices with the inclusions188101:46:51.680 --> 01:46:54.199
of songs, jokes, and other tricks.188201:46:54.880 --> 01:46:55.199
Okay.188301:46:55.880 --> 01:46:59.479
A third theory argues that modern American trick or treating188401:46:59.640 --> 01:47:04.680
treating stems from bell Snickeling, a German American Christmas tradition188501:47:04.760 --> 01:47:07.600
where children would dress up in costume and then call188601:47:07.640 --> 01:47:09.760
on their neighbors to see if the adults could guess188701:47:09.800 --> 01:47:14.239
the identities of the disguised. I've heard of that, not188801:47:14.319 --> 01:47:16.279
that name, but I've heard of the thing where like188901:47:16.319 --> 01:47:18.319
the game is figuring out who the kid is in189001:47:18.359 --> 01:47:22.359
the costume. In one version of the practice, the children189101:47:22.439 --> 01:47:25.039
were rewarded with food or other treats if no one189201:47:25.039 --> 01:47:28.880
could identify them, but in another version, they were killed.189301:47:29.840 --> 01:47:33.720
You were going to say that I knew you thought that. Wow. Look, oh,189401:47:33.800 --> 01:47:36.600
hold on shell, look at these nineteen sixty two kids189501:47:36.640 --> 01:47:37.800
in their Halloween costumes.189601:47:37.880 --> 01:47:38.640
That's terrifying.189701:47:40.319 --> 01:47:42.479
Yeah, look at that one. Oh those are cute actually,189801:47:43.319 --> 01:47:43.880
but look at that.189901:47:44.279 --> 01:47:44.600
Yeah.190001:47:44.640 --> 01:47:46.600
Their masks are so weird and off.190101:47:47.079 --> 01:47:47.319
Yeah.190201:47:47.720 --> 01:47:49.520
Yeah, hoe made costumes are so scary.190301:47:49.960 --> 01:47:51.439
Yeah, that's what I should.190401:47:51.199 --> 01:47:52.640
Do for Halloween. Every year I struggled with, like, what190501:47:52.640 --> 01:47:54.079
am I gonna do because I want to be scary190601:47:54.119 --> 01:47:56.239
to scare the kids. Last year I did a Psycho Santa,190701:47:56.319 --> 01:47:59.920
which I thought was awesome, But I should do like190801:48:00.119 --> 01:48:04.880
just a really scary homemade looking costume with like a190901:48:05.000 --> 01:48:10.199
stitched like a sack over my head or something that's191001:48:10.199 --> 01:48:12.159
so much work, and Michelle, will you make it for191101:48:12.199 --> 01:48:18.279
me please? I'll pay shipping. No, damn it, I thought.191201:48:18.159 --> 01:48:19.560
It would work free.191301:48:20.479 --> 01:48:25.079
Well. Oh, I almost missed that. I was about to191401:48:25.079 --> 01:48:28.239
start the next thing. Oh that turned into wholesome content.191501:48:28.399 --> 01:48:31.239
Thank you. When we get back, we're going to talk191601:48:31.279 --> 01:48:34.319
a little bit about cats, black and orange and bobbing191701:48:34.359 --> 01:48:47.640
for apples right after this. Shelle, you've offered a lot191801:48:47.760 --> 01:48:52.279
of challenging opinions this month, which I appreciate. I do,191901:48:53.520 --> 01:48:56.399
so I have to ask, how do you feel about192001:48:56.399 --> 01:48:57.600
black cats?192101:48:58.359 --> 01:48:59.520
They're okay?192201:49:01.439 --> 01:49:01.880
Wow?192301:49:02.279 --> 01:49:06.000
I like I wish they had patterns on them because192401:49:06.000 --> 01:49:07.560
I just think patterns are cool.192501:49:07.760 --> 01:49:09.640
Have you never seen a black cat where like, if192601:49:09.640 --> 01:49:12.039
you look really close, they actually have like a little pattern,192701:49:12.119 --> 01:49:14.039
because they do. There are ones that have like they192801:49:14.119 --> 01:49:16.079
look kind of like you know that, I don't know what.192901:49:16.119 --> 01:49:17.520
I don't know anything about cats. You know how they193001:49:17.560 --> 01:49:19.880
have that like kind of tiger striping or whatever. I've193101:49:19.880 --> 01:49:22.279
seen somewhere they have like a very very light or193201:49:22.399 --> 01:49:23.960
very dark gray pattern.193301:49:24.199 --> 01:49:25.159
Oh, that's pretty cool.193401:49:25.439 --> 01:49:27.199
It's very cool. And you only can tell when you193501:49:27.319 --> 01:49:32.279
like really look. Well. The idea of being spooked by193601:49:32.279 --> 01:49:36.279
black cats, which is another classic Halloween tradition, dates back193701:49:36.319 --> 01:49:39.920
to the Middle Ages. Oh, I didn't know this when193801:49:39.960 --> 01:49:43.720
these dark felines were considered a symbol of the devil.193901:49:44.359 --> 01:49:47.760
I did know that. It didn't help that centuries later,194001:49:48.039 --> 01:49:52.720
accused witches were often found to have cats, particularly black ones.194101:49:53.960 --> 01:49:55.880
Oh so they were just lonely women.194201:49:56.800 --> 01:50:00.000
Yeah. When they just happened to have cats that were black.194301:50:00.239 --> 01:50:04.720
Yeah, x, people began to believe that the cats were194401:50:04.720 --> 01:50:08.640
the witches familiar supernatural entities that would assist in their194501:50:08.680 --> 01:50:12.880
practice of dark magic, and black cats and spookiness have194601:50:13.000 --> 01:50:19.079
been linked ever since. Okay, so this is one I've194701:50:19.079 --> 01:50:24.199
never I've never really gotten an explanation for black and orange.194801:50:24.920 --> 01:50:26.399
Yeah, I'm interested.194901:50:27.239 --> 01:50:30.880
The traditional Halloween colors of black and orange also traces195001:50:30.920 --> 01:50:34.000
back to the Celtic festival of Sowyn. For the Celts,195101:50:34.039 --> 01:50:38.680
black represented the death of summer, while orange symbolized the195201:50:38.760 --> 01:50:44.960
autumn harvest. Okay, that makes so much sense. That almost195301:50:45.039 --> 01:50:48.520
pisses me off because that like makes perfect sense. Like195401:50:48.520 --> 01:50:53.720
I'm like, oh duh, everything about that makes perfect sense. Yeah,195501:50:53.760 --> 01:50:56.760
here's your favorite shell and one of the earliest Halloween.195601:50:57.479 --> 01:50:59.800
You know that. You know, Halloween at first was Halloween195701:51:00.319 --> 01:51:05.680
Halloween and then upostery Een Halloween. That really yeah, that195801:51:05.800 --> 01:51:08.039
was in the early days, because Halloween, as we see195901:51:08.039 --> 01:51:11.439
it is really pretty new, like nineteen thirties, nineteen forties,196001:51:11.840 --> 01:51:18.279
maybe maybe twenties. Bobbing for apples? What's gross about bobbing196101:51:18.279 --> 01:51:18.800
for apples?196201:51:19.399 --> 01:51:26.359
Everything there's apples and then you have you don't like apples, No,196301:51:26.439 --> 01:51:29.000
they're okay. I just don't like you have to put196401:51:29.039 --> 01:51:32.720
your head in a water that's with other people's just your.196501:51:32.560 --> 01:51:34.600
Face, not your whole head. I mean, I guess if196601:51:34.600 --> 01:51:36.760
you want to really do it, Yeah, you gotta go196701:51:36.800 --> 01:51:37.199
all in.196801:51:37.560 --> 01:51:37.920
Yeah.196901:51:38.600 --> 01:51:40.199
Did you ever bob for apples when you were kid?197001:51:41.319 --> 01:51:45.199
They didn't do that? You're like, like, what, I don't197101:51:45.199 --> 01:51:48.560
know your temple or your church or anything.197201:51:49.039 --> 01:51:51.359
No, I mean, honestly, now that I think about it,197301:51:51.399 --> 01:51:52.840
I might have bobbed for apples.197401:51:53.319 --> 01:51:57.600
Ah, yeah, knew it. See the church I went to,197501:51:57.600 --> 01:51:59.279
which is funny because they were very when I was197601:51:59.359 --> 01:52:01.880
very young, which I went to, they were very strict197701:52:01.960 --> 01:52:05.439
and very like, you know, strict is really the best word.197801:52:05.479 --> 01:52:07.239
They were very like if you made jokes and church.197901:52:07.279 --> 01:52:09.880
They were like quiet you and stuff, but they loved Halloween.198001:52:10.000 --> 01:52:11.600
They like went all out on Halloween.198101:52:11.880 --> 01:52:12.359
Interesting.198201:52:13.199 --> 01:52:14.680
So I bobbed for apples a ton. I could never198301:52:14.760 --> 01:52:18.039
catch a damn apple. It's really hard to get an apple, yeah,198401:52:18.319 --> 01:52:20.640
unless it's like really small, but you're a child, so198501:52:20.680 --> 01:52:24.159
your mouth is small. It's really hard. The game of198601:52:24.199 --> 01:52:26.880
bobbing for apples has been a staple at Halloween parties198701:52:26.920 --> 01:52:30.439
for many years, but its origins are more rooted in198801:52:30.560 --> 01:52:33.439
love and romance. We did notice when we did a198901:52:33.479 --> 01:52:36.520
deep dive on Halloween on a Halloween like guidebook on199001:52:36.560 --> 01:52:38.319
how to have a Halloween party, which tells you how199101:52:38.560 --> 01:52:41.199
new Halloween was, that people needed like guidance of how199201:52:41.239 --> 01:52:46.279
to have Halloween party. But they like most of the199301:52:46.319 --> 01:52:50.039
party games, which I have a theory, by the way,199401:52:50.079 --> 01:52:52.119
but most of the party games were about like figuring199501:52:52.119 --> 01:52:54.600
out who you would marry someday or like pairing off,199601:52:54.880 --> 01:52:57.319
because well it was for young adults. That was the199701:52:57.319 --> 01:52:59.359
whole argument. So it was like for people who are199801:52:59.359 --> 01:53:01.520
like eighteen to twenty five and single, you go to199901:53:01.520 --> 01:53:03.600
a Halloween party and try to make, you know, make200001:53:03.600 --> 01:53:08.720
a lover. Yep, yep, I do have a theory if200101:53:08.760 --> 01:53:10.880
you look at the way they celebrated Halloween back in200201:53:10.920 --> 01:53:14.479
the day versus now. Sometimes I think that's where a200301:53:14.520 --> 01:53:17.520
lot of like the really like scared, like church ladies200401:53:17.560 --> 01:53:19.680
who go like it's satanic. It's like, when you look200501:53:19.680 --> 01:53:22.720
back at how they celebrate Halloween, it was like seances200601:53:23.000 --> 01:53:26.960
and like summonings. It's not that way now. People don't200701:53:27.000 --> 01:53:30.319
really do that stuff at all. It's all horror movies200801:53:30.439 --> 01:53:34.479
and candy and you know, pizzas shaped like pumpkins. Oh,200901:53:34.560 --> 01:53:36.479
I love the pizza shaped like a pumpkin. I'm so201001:53:36.520 --> 01:53:39.039
excited for Halloween, even though it's the most exhausting time201101:53:39.039 --> 01:53:40.800
of year for me. I'm so excited.201201:53:40.840 --> 01:53:42.640
Shell, I'm glad.201301:53:43.560 --> 01:53:45.920
Oh I am, I am. I'm excited. I'm going to201401:53:46.000 --> 01:53:48.079
go to as many haunts as I can as I201501:53:48.079 --> 01:53:50.479
can try to do. Yeah, last year I went to201601:53:50.520 --> 01:53:52.159
a ton of haunts and I had an amazing time.201701:53:52.520 --> 01:53:55.520
So and I'll report all the haunts I go to201801:53:55.880 --> 01:53:57.800
when we do Monthly Spooky at the end of October.201901:54:00.520 --> 01:54:02.920
The game traces back to a courting ritual that was202001:54:02.960 --> 01:54:07.000
part of a Roman festival honoring Pomona, the goddess of202101:54:07.039 --> 01:54:12.640
agriculture and abundance. While multiple versions existed, the gist was202201:54:12.720 --> 01:54:15.239
that young men and women would be able to predict202301:54:15.279 --> 01:54:19.279
their future relationships based on the game. When the Romans202401:54:19.319 --> 01:54:22.520
conquered the British Isles in forty three AD, the Pomona202501:54:22.560 --> 01:54:31.199
Festival blended with the similarly time Sowyn, a precursor to Halloween. Okay, ooh, pranking,202601:54:32.239 --> 01:54:36.079
because of course, trick or treat m h starts with202701:54:36.159 --> 01:54:42.319
trick or treat playing. Pranks often varies by region, but202801:54:42.399 --> 01:54:46.800
the pre Halloween tradition known as Devil's Knight is credited202901:54:46.840 --> 01:54:50.399
to a different origin depending on the source. Some say203001:54:50.399 --> 01:54:53.079
that pranks started as part of a May Day celebration,203101:54:53.800 --> 01:54:57.000
but Soween and eventually all Soul's Day also included good203201:54:57.079 --> 01:55:01.119
natured mischief. When Irish and Scottish immig and came to America,203301:55:01.399 --> 01:55:04.119
they brought with them the tradition of celebrating Mischief Night203401:55:04.520 --> 01:55:09.000
as part of Halloween. So what you're saying is they203501:55:09.000 --> 01:55:13.680
were a bunch of like vandals, And what we're saying203601:55:13.800 --> 01:55:21.880
is those Irish and Scottish immigrants were horrible now lighting203701:55:21.920 --> 01:55:26.880
candles and bonfires, Okay, for much of the early history203801:55:26.880 --> 01:55:30.840
of Halloween, towering bonfires were used to light the way203901:55:30.880 --> 01:55:35.159
for souls seeking the afterlife. These days, lighting candles have204001:55:35.279 --> 01:55:40.239
generally been replaced have generally replaced the large traditional blazes.204101:55:41.199 --> 01:55:42.520
That makes us I don't know anybody who's having a204201:55:42.560 --> 01:55:44.439
big bonfire for Halloween, if I'm honest.204301:55:44.720 --> 01:55:49.880
My neighbors do really yeah, I mean not a huge204401:55:49.920 --> 01:55:52.800
on fire, but they have in their front yard. They204501:55:52.960 --> 01:55:56.279
just sit around and they have a little fire candy.204601:55:57.039 --> 01:56:00.920
Yeah that's so nice. I like that. That's super nice.204701:56:00.960 --> 01:56:02.600
You should do You ever go out there and say204801:56:02.680 --> 01:56:03.760
hi to them while they're doing it.204901:56:04.119 --> 01:56:06.319
I did one year. I sat with them, But like205001:56:06.399 --> 01:56:08.680
I gotta be here because I gotta do the things.205101:56:09.000 --> 01:56:11.720
Oh yeah, yeah. It's just I always like if I205201:56:11.760 --> 01:56:13.399
notice my neighbors, because a lot of my neighbors with205301:56:13.439 --> 01:56:16.079
an eyeshot aren't doing much for Halloween, Like they're maybe205401:56:16.079 --> 01:56:18.439
handing out candy at best. So whenever I have a205501:56:18.479 --> 01:56:20.840
neighbor who's like sitting out and like putting an effort,205601:56:20.840 --> 01:56:22.520
I like to like swing by and like sneak them205701:56:22.600 --> 01:56:24.319
like and like make them take a piece of candy205801:56:24.399 --> 01:56:26.560
or something for me, just because it's like, hey, I205901:56:26.560 --> 01:56:28.600
couldn't help. But notice, like you don't have any milky206001:56:28.600 --> 01:56:30.680
ways that you like milky ways, right, you know, like206101:56:30.800 --> 01:56:33.119
just I don't know. I just love Halloween so much. Ah,206201:56:33.199 --> 01:56:35.199
you'd never guessed by the six fucking years I've put206301:56:35.199 --> 01:56:41.920
into the show. Right, Okay, we're getting close to the206401:56:42.039 --> 01:56:44.640
end of the list, So when we get back, we're206501:56:44.640 --> 01:56:53.199
gonna talk about the strange, haunted, evil origins of candied206601:56:53.199 --> 01:57:04.319
apples right after this, well, before you crap all over206701:57:04.359 --> 01:57:08.800
people enjoying their candied apples. Cell For centuries, people have206801:57:08.880 --> 01:57:12.039
been coating fruit in syrup as a means of preservation,206901:57:13.239 --> 01:57:16.600
but during the Roman festival of Pomona, the goddess was207001:57:16.600 --> 01:57:20.960
often represented by and associated with apples. Her name derives207101:57:21.000 --> 01:57:24.279
from the Latin word for apple, palmum, and the fruit207201:57:24.399 --> 01:57:27.680
is at the heart of the harvest celebrations. I do love.207301:57:27.720 --> 01:57:29.239
Have you ever made a baked apple?207401:57:29.840 --> 01:57:30.399
Yeah?207501:57:30.479 --> 01:57:31.319
Those are so good?207601:57:31.439 --> 01:57:32.439
They are good.207701:57:32.720 --> 01:57:33.640
Can I give you a tip?207801:57:34.319 --> 01:57:34.640
Sure?207901:57:35.119 --> 01:57:37.319
I made a baked So do you core the apple208001:57:37.520 --> 01:57:40.680
and like put stuff in it? I once did it,208101:57:40.680 --> 01:57:43.560
but I stuffed it with candy corn. Oh my god,208201:57:43.840 --> 01:57:49.439
it was awesome. Wow, it was so good. Dude, cannot208301:57:49.479 --> 01:57:50.319
recommend it enough.208401:57:52.239 --> 01:57:54.000
It sounds really sweet, though.208501:57:54.319 --> 01:57:57.439
Well, the trick is you can't fit that many candy208601:57:57.479 --> 01:58:01.039
corn in yeah, so it's actually not because you're not.208701:58:01.079 --> 01:58:03.359
You're probably getting like what four or five pieces in208801:58:03.399 --> 01:58:07.039
there tops and then it turns into a wonderful goo.208901:58:08.159 --> 01:58:08.640
Okay.209001:58:09.439 --> 01:58:13.319
I highly recommend it. Okay, because whether you love or209101:58:13.319 --> 01:58:15.520
hate candy corn, you like candy corn, right, I mean,209201:58:15.560 --> 01:58:16.720
you're not like in love with the but you don't209301:58:16.760 --> 01:58:18.279
you don't have like some people are just like ah209401:58:18.479 --> 01:58:22.520
about candy corny. I love candy corn, I really do.209501:58:22.600 --> 01:58:24.920
And it goes great with cigars, which was like one209601:58:24.960 --> 01:58:26.560
of the big turning points of me saying like, yeah,209701:58:26.600 --> 01:58:28.399
I like cigars because I could sit there puffing and209801:58:28.439 --> 01:58:30.520
having one piece of candy corn every like three or209901:58:30.520 --> 01:58:32.399
four minutes, and then puff and have another piece of210001:58:32.439 --> 01:58:34.880
candycorn at the end of the day. They really taste210101:58:34.920 --> 01:58:41.039
like marshmallow and honey, which are pretty friggin pleasant. That's all.210201:58:41.199 --> 01:58:43.239
That's my whole point is like they're actually a really210301:58:43.279 --> 01:58:46.000
pleasant flavor and that's why they're great on like a210401:58:46.039 --> 01:58:49.399
candied apple or like a baked apple rather Okay, So210501:58:49.560 --> 01:58:51.560
highly recommend trying that. Just put a couple in that210601:58:51.640 --> 01:58:56.000
core instead and bake it. Okay, so I lost my place.210701:58:56.560 --> 01:58:58.520
It is believed that candy apples. Oh yeah, this is210801:58:58.560 --> 01:59:02.720
the dark. This is the dark history side of candied apples.210901:59:03.279 --> 01:59:06.800
Candied apples were invented accidentally in nineteen oh eight by211001:59:06.840 --> 01:59:12.640
William W. Colb, a candy maker in Newark, New Jersey.211101:59:13.159 --> 01:59:15.279
Oh no, cut up.211201:59:17.720 --> 01:59:19.279
That's why I did the whole build up as I211301:59:19.319 --> 01:59:22.720
saw it, said, New Jersey. And the thing, as the211401:59:22.760 --> 01:59:26.119
story goes cold was experimenting with red cinnamon candy to211501:59:26.199 --> 01:59:28.800
sell at Christmas time, and he dipped the apples on211601:59:28.920 --> 01:59:31.600
sticks into the red glaze and put them in his211701:59:31.680 --> 01:59:34.439
shop window to showcase his new candy. Oh well, it211801:59:34.520 --> 01:59:37.119
was like to say, like, look how nice this this211901:59:37.239 --> 01:59:39.439
hard candy cinnamon candy is. Like I put it on212001:59:39.439 --> 01:59:42.920
an apple. Man, I've never had a candied apple with212101:59:43.000 --> 01:59:47.720
cinnamon glaze. That'd be awesome. Yeah, yeah, that'd be so212201:59:47.840 --> 01:59:51.960
good because apple and cinnamon match made in heaven. Are212301:59:52.000 --> 01:59:54.119
you a red apple or a green apple person?212401:59:54.159 --> 01:59:55.520
I'm a red apple person.212501:59:55.720 --> 01:59:57.840
I know, I just wanted to hate you again all over.212601:59:58.479 --> 02:00:01.920
I'm a green apple person. A thousand. I know it's weird,212702:00:02.600 --> 02:00:11.000
worst case golden delicious, but I prefer green Lahla. But212802:00:11.239 --> 02:00:13.560
instead of selling the candies, he ended up selling the212902:00:13.560 --> 02:00:16.279
apples to customers who thought they looked good enough to eat.213002:00:16.800 --> 02:00:19.479
They became fashionable treats for Halloween starting in the early213102:00:19.560 --> 02:00:24.680
nineteen hundreds, and they remained popular up until the nineteen seventies. Wow,213202:00:25.399 --> 02:00:28.640
candied apples fell by the wayside in part, I believe213302:00:28.720 --> 02:00:30.319
due to the caramel apple.213402:00:31.239 --> 02:00:34.640
I would agree. I like caramel apples better than candy apple.213502:00:34.840 --> 02:00:36.840
I do too. You're not as worried about breaking a tooth.213602:00:37.159 --> 02:00:38.439
Mm hmm, yeah, exactly.213702:00:39.039 --> 02:00:41.359
And they're easier to make, like if you want to213802:00:41.479 --> 02:00:43.960
make them at home and not just buy them, because213902:00:43.960 --> 02:00:46.880
they'll be better if you make them at home. If214002:00:46.920 --> 02:00:49.399
you make a caramel apple at home, you're not talking214102:00:49.760 --> 02:00:52.239
a ton of work. I mean, it's a decent amount214202:00:52.279 --> 02:00:55.079
of work, but not not like making a candied apple.214302:00:55.319 --> 02:00:57.880
That's a lot of frigging work. Like if you're gonna214402:00:57.920 --> 02:00:59.560
do that. Honestly, if I was gonna make candied apples,214502:00:59.560 --> 02:01:00.600
I would do the slices.214602:01:02.239 --> 02:01:02.560
That would be.214702:01:02.640 --> 02:01:04.199
That would be I think that would be Although that214802:01:04.199 --> 02:01:07.319
would be amazing caramel too. Oh my gosh, I need214902:01:07.359 --> 02:01:10.199
to see I'm getting really hungry, is what's happening on215002:01:10.239 --> 02:01:12.439
the show. Because I was just like, I'm making elotes215102:01:12.520 --> 02:01:15.880
tonight for Rachel and her niece her Nieces coming over,215202:01:16.079 --> 02:01:19.199
and Rachel's making pizza. And she texted me today this215302:01:19.279 --> 02:01:20.760
morning and was like, Hey, I know it doesn't in215402:01:20.800 --> 02:01:23.079
any way go with pizza, and this seems really random,215502:01:23.319 --> 02:01:25.640
but can you make eylo taste to go with the pizza.215602:01:25.840 --> 02:01:27.880
I already bought ears of corn last night and I215702:01:27.920 --> 02:01:30.840
was like, yes, I will make you eat low taste.215802:01:30.960 --> 02:01:33.960
If people don't know, that's basically a street corn covered215902:01:34.000 --> 02:01:36.800
in like a mayonnaise, sauce and pepper and chili powder.216002:01:36.840 --> 02:01:41.680
It's very very tasty. But I just realized. I was like,216102:01:41.680 --> 02:01:43.159
oh man, I need to check if I have any216202:01:44.239 --> 02:01:46.840
any h Oh what's it called? That kind of that216302:01:46.880 --> 02:01:49.279
sweet and condensed milk? I need to see if I216402:01:49.319 --> 02:01:51.079
have any. What's funny is I was gonna say sweet216502:01:51.079 --> 02:01:53.319
milk and it filled the word like it started the216602:01:53.319 --> 02:01:55.720
word shitting commense milk. I used to have any because216702:01:55.760 --> 02:01:59.079
if you can pressure cook the can and it basically216802:01:59.079 --> 02:02:00.000
turns into dulcet delay.216902:02:00.800 --> 02:02:02.039
Right, Yeah, we talked about this.217002:02:02.159 --> 02:02:04.319
Yeah, it's amazing, but I ate it till I made217102:02:04.359 --> 02:02:06.439
myself sick because it was a giant can of it.217202:02:06.520 --> 02:02:09.399
So I'm sitting there dipping pretzels in it, dipping, dipping217302:02:09.439 --> 02:02:11.279
a slice of apple in it, and I'm like, I217402:02:11.319 --> 02:02:13.399
can't keep it. Only keep for like a week in217502:02:13.439 --> 02:02:15.239
the fridge. So I'm just eating it like every meal,217602:02:15.760 --> 02:02:19.119
Like I can't waste A can of a can of217702:02:19.119 --> 02:02:23.920
sweetened Canden's milk is like a dollar eighty maybe I217802:02:23.960 --> 02:02:27.119
don't know. Anyway, We're getting close to wrapping this up,217902:02:27.239 --> 02:02:28.760
so I want to. I want to. I want to218002:02:28.840 --> 02:02:31.560
keep TI rating, but I am really hungry. I have218102:02:31.640 --> 02:02:34.720
a donut from last night that I didn't eat, and218202:02:34.800 --> 02:02:36.479
I'm going to eat to tide me over because I218302:02:36.479 --> 02:02:39.159
think dinner's going to be late because I gotta make218402:02:39.279 --> 02:02:41.640
lote from scratch. Oh, and I'm gonna make it from scratch,218502:02:41.680 --> 02:02:44.000
like I'm gonna make the mayonnaise. Oh, because now I218602:02:44.039 --> 02:02:47.239
know how to make mayonnaise and it's awesome. I cannot218702:02:47.239 --> 02:02:50.680
recommend enough if you have an emulsion blender, making like218802:02:50.920 --> 02:02:54.239
making a week's worth of Mayo takes like four minutes218902:02:55.239 --> 02:02:56.560
and then you're done. You just have mayo.219002:02:56.960 --> 02:02:58.359
Anyway, that's pretty cool.219102:02:59.560 --> 02:03:06.920
Bats. Bats were likely present at the earliest proto Halloween celebrations,219202:03:07.359 --> 02:03:12.159
not just symbolically but literally as part of Yeah, you219302:03:12.159 --> 02:03:14.920
would think right, as part of Sowyn you.219402:03:14.880 --> 02:03:17.199
Love bats, by the way, I do like bats.219502:03:18.159 --> 02:03:23.800
As part of Sowyn Celtic. Celtics lit large bonfires, which219602:03:23.840 --> 02:03:28.640
attracted insects, which in turn attracted bats. Man, that makes219702:03:28.680 --> 02:03:30.600
so much sense why that bats would become a part219802:03:30.600 --> 02:03:33.680
of the celebration. Yeah, because they had bonfires. Giant bonfires219902:03:33.720 --> 02:03:35.199
were one of the first things they did to celebrate220002:03:35.199 --> 02:03:37.479
that would totally attract bugs from everywhere. So then you220102:03:37.520 --> 02:03:42.399
see bats flying around. Happens at the drive in theater sometimes, Yeah,220202:03:42.439 --> 02:03:44.640
at the drive and you'll see bats constantly because there220302:03:44.680 --> 02:03:46.600
are tons of insects around because of all the people220402:03:47.359 --> 02:03:48.039
and all the light.220502:03:48.960 --> 02:03:50.079
Yeah, that makes sense.220602:03:50.640 --> 02:03:52.880
Yeah, and it's double edged because they go to the220702:03:52.960 --> 02:03:54.840
light on the screen and the light from the actual220802:03:54.840 --> 02:03:57.199
projector so you end up with just a ton of bugs. Yeah.220902:03:57.640 --> 02:03:59.199
The last time I went, you could literally just see221002:03:59.199 --> 02:04:03.279
bats zooming around all over. It was really cool. Awe.221102:04:04.000 --> 02:04:06.880
Medieval folklore expanded upon the eeriness of bats, with a221202:04:06.960 --> 02:04:09.800
number of superstitions built around the belief that bats were221302:04:09.800 --> 02:04:17.920
harbingers of death. Oh yeah, Devouring candy one of my221402:04:18.079 --> 02:04:21.399
all time favorite Halloween pastimes. Even though I get older221502:04:21.399 --> 02:04:22.920
and now I can't. I used to be able to221602:04:23.039 --> 02:04:26.239
eat candy for like forever, it felt like, and now221702:04:26.239 --> 02:04:27.920
it's like, after three or four pieces, I'm like, I221802:04:27.960 --> 02:04:30.920
don't know, unless it's really good candy or like a221902:04:30.960 --> 02:04:33.119
candy I'm obsessed with, you know. If it's something like222002:04:33.159 --> 02:04:35.680
gourmet sours or something, I might like eat a ton222102:04:35.720 --> 02:04:39.439
of them. But yeah, like, yeah, I'm getting old man.222202:04:39.920 --> 02:04:42.760
The active going door to door for handouts has long222302:04:42.800 --> 02:04:45.359
been a part of Halloween revelries, but until the mid222402:04:45.359 --> 02:04:48.840
twentieth century, the treats children received were not necessarily candy.222502:04:49.399 --> 02:04:53.000
Things like fruit, nuts, coins, and toys were just as222602:04:53.159 --> 02:04:55.840
likely to be given out. That's why we have to222702:04:55.880 --> 02:05:00.560
tpee their houses and keep our society in check. People222802:05:00.600 --> 02:05:04.000
began to favor the confections out of convenience, but candies222902:05:04.079 --> 02:05:07.680
did not dominate as the exclusion of other treats until223002:05:07.720 --> 02:05:13.520
the nineteen seventies, when parents started started fearing anything unwrapped. Okay,223102:05:13.800 --> 02:05:15.399
did you have the house in your neighborhood where they223202:05:15.439 --> 02:05:20.399
handed on apples? No, we did. We had like a223302:05:20.439 --> 02:05:22.920
couple of houses that would hand on apples, and of223402:05:22.960 --> 02:05:26.720
course we also had the legendary dentist house where they223502:05:26.720 --> 02:05:27.960
handed out toothbrushes.223602:05:28.239 --> 02:05:29.439
Yeah.223702:05:29.520 --> 02:05:33.079
Yeah, we would never eat the apples. We were told223802:05:33.119 --> 02:05:35.560
apples will always have razor blades in them, so we would.223902:05:35.640 --> 02:05:37.760
We would destroy them. We'd like to throw them in224002:05:37.800 --> 02:05:39.119
the street and bust them up.224102:05:39.199 --> 02:05:41.079
We were all, I mean, you could have cut the224202:05:41.119 --> 02:05:43.079
apple and then you would find the razor blade, and224302:05:43.119 --> 02:05:47.800
then you could eat the apple and have a razor blade.224402:05:48.840 --> 02:05:50.840
I did not think that was I did not know224502:05:50.920 --> 02:05:53.279
that was where you were going. That was so good.224602:05:54.600 --> 02:05:59.640
Well played cell last one. Candy corn, Well, we were224702:05:59.680 --> 02:05:59.960
just talking.224802:06:00.800 --> 02:06:01.600
Yeah.224902:06:01.800 --> 02:06:05.760
A candy maker at the Wonderly Candy Company in Philadelphia225002:06:06.399 --> 02:06:11.119
whow is sometimes credited with inventing the tricolored candy in225102:06:11.159 --> 02:06:14.000
the eighteen eighties, but candy corn did not become a225202:06:14.039 --> 02:06:17.720
widespread sensation until the Golitz Company brought the candy to225302:06:17.760 --> 02:06:21.600
the masses in eighteen ninety eight. Candy corn was originally225402:06:21.680 --> 02:06:24.960
called chicken feed. I do remember that chicken feed and225502:06:25.000 --> 02:06:30.279
sold in boxes with the slogan something worth crowing for what.225602:06:30.479 --> 02:06:32.119
That's weird.225702:06:32.319 --> 02:06:35.439
Marketing was so weird turn of the century, like when225802:06:35.439 --> 02:06:37.319
the nineteen niner started, it was so weird, like and225902:06:37.359 --> 02:06:43.439
everything was like consolidated biscuit mix taste, consolidated flavor biscuits226002:06:43.520 --> 02:06:44.720
and stuff like did you like what?226102:06:44.880 --> 02:06:45.439
Yeah?226202:06:46.239 --> 02:06:49.079
People like Well, people like consolidation, they like flavor, and226302:06:49.079 --> 02:06:54.960
they like biscuits. Yeah, Like that doesn't sound exciting anyway.226402:06:56.039 --> 02:07:01.199
It's like in England they still have digestive biscuits, jesive biscuits.226502:07:01.479 --> 02:07:02.159
Of course you do.226602:07:02.399 --> 02:07:04.279
They're really could No, I actually.226702:07:04.119 --> 02:07:05.920
Like them to it's the name that's funny to me. Yeah,226802:07:05.960 --> 02:07:11.560
the jestive biscuits initially an autumn autumnal candy because of226902:07:11.600 --> 02:07:14.920
corn's associated with harvest time. Candy. Corn later became Halloween227002:07:15.000 --> 02:07:18.159
specific when trigger treating grew in popularity in the US227102:07:18.239 --> 02:07:23.319
during the nineteen fifties. So that is a little rundown227202:07:23.359 --> 02:07:25.960
of some of the traditions that we still celebrate that227302:07:26.000 --> 02:07:29.359
we may not entirely understand. Yeah, so we're going to227402:07:29.439 --> 02:07:30.920
take a quick break and when we get back. We're227502:07:30.920 --> 02:07:32.680
going to talk a little bit about some horror movies227602:07:32.720 --> 02:07:34.880
I saw in the theater, maybe a little bit of227702:07:34.880 --> 02:07:37.520
Reddit creepiness, and wrap things up as we get ready227802:07:37.520 --> 02:07:39.760
to head into spooky season and see you all again227902:07:40.359 --> 02:07:43.920
right before Halloween. But we'll be back right after this.228002:07:51.359 --> 02:07:55.279
All right, we're back, wrapping up this September twenty twenty228102:07:55.399 --> 02:08:00.439
five edition of Monthly Spooky and No Joke. So one228202:08:00.479 --> 02:08:01.760
of the things I like to talk about on the228302:08:01.840 --> 02:08:05.560
last segment of the show is horror media. I've been watching,228402:08:05.680 --> 02:08:09.560
whether usually ideally in the theater, but you know whatever,228502:08:09.880 --> 02:08:14.199
a new horror TV series, although, man, we had we228602:08:14.199 --> 02:08:17.640
were maggoty with them. For a while. We had Haunting228702:08:17.640 --> 02:08:19.159
a Hill House, and then the next year we had228802:08:19.199 --> 02:08:21.319
Haunting a Blind Manor, and the next year we had228902:08:21.800 --> 02:08:23.760
We had so many good ones for years on years.229002:08:23.760 --> 02:08:27.640
We had Midnight mass which was phenomenal, and now we229102:08:27.680 --> 02:08:29.479
haven't had one in like two years. It's a bummer.229202:08:29.600 --> 02:08:29.920
Damn.229302:08:30.239 --> 02:08:34.560
I love those spooky series, but obviously, but it's funny.229402:08:34.640 --> 02:08:37.920
Right before we started, I was like, I wonder, I229502:08:38.000 --> 02:08:40.359
was like, oh, man, horror movies in the theater. I229602:08:40.359 --> 02:08:42.680
don't think we've had any luck since the last show.229702:08:42.920 --> 02:08:44.479
So then I pulled up my phone and looked at229802:08:44.479 --> 02:08:47.159
my own Instagram, because I take pictures of movie stubs,229902:08:47.600 --> 02:08:50.439
you know, before I go into a theater. I've seen230002:08:50.560 --> 02:08:53.079
three horror movies in the theater since our last show.230102:08:53.399 --> 02:08:58.680
Oh okay, so there has been no shortage of horror230202:08:58.760 --> 02:09:03.319
films to watch in the theater, and the quality has230302:09:04.439 --> 02:09:08.760
been overall pretty good. Actually, the first one I saw230402:09:09.520 --> 02:09:13.680
was the was The Conjuring Last Rights, the final film230502:09:13.680 --> 02:09:17.800
in the Conjuring series, the very popular Conjuring series which230602:09:17.840 --> 02:09:24.359
features the Warrens, the famous paranormal investigators who are undoubtedly frauds,230702:09:24.359 --> 02:09:27.920
but the movie version of them is super fun. In fact,230802:09:27.960 --> 02:09:29.920
I'll give you one more spoil for hanging out this230902:09:30.079 --> 02:09:34.199
long with us. The biggest episode of Terrifying and True231002:09:34.199 --> 02:09:37.439
in October is going to be a super long deep231102:09:37.520 --> 02:09:42.680
dive into what the Warrens lied about, like the Warrens231202:09:42.720 --> 02:09:49.000
Factor fiction, basically super detailed. My voice already hurts imagining231302:09:49.039 --> 02:09:52.319
how long it's going to take to record it, but231402:09:52.359 --> 02:09:54.920
I'm really looking forward to it. But Conjuring the Last231502:09:55.000 --> 02:09:57.279
Rights it had everything you like about the Conjuring movies231602:09:57.600 --> 02:09:58.640
have you seen any of them.231702:09:58.800 --> 02:10:00.840
I think I saw one of them.231802:10:01.000 --> 02:10:03.960
Yeah, they're fun. They're fun ghost romps with like lots231902:10:04.000 --> 02:10:07.680
of special effects and scares. This one delivered everything you232002:10:07.680 --> 02:10:10.560
would like if you like those movies, and it wrapped232102:10:10.600 --> 02:10:12.399
it up in a neat bow and kind of made232202:10:12.399 --> 02:10:16.079
it feel good, like positive at the end. So I232302:10:16.119 --> 02:10:19.159
highly recommend if you liked any of the Conjuring movies,232402:10:19.319 --> 02:10:23.000
check out The Conjuring Last Rites. The next horror film232502:10:23.039 --> 02:10:28.039
I saw is called Him, and it's kind of popular.232602:10:28.880 --> 02:10:30.680
It's claim to fame is that it was produced by232702:10:30.800 --> 02:10:35.520
Jordan Peel, who made Get Out and Us and Nope,232802:10:36.000 --> 02:10:39.239
which I like all his movies quite a bit, but232902:10:39.319 --> 02:10:43.000
he was a producer on this one. And it's about233002:10:43.479 --> 02:10:46.600
a football star who has to go to this training233102:10:46.640 --> 02:10:49.079
camp to try and become like the biggest player in233202:10:49.119 --> 02:10:52.760
the world. And something is really weird at this training camp,233302:10:52.960 --> 02:10:56.319
Like the medicines are questionable, the rituals are crest questionable.233402:10:56.560 --> 02:11:01.319
It's really weird and creepy. I I liked it the233502:11:01.359 --> 02:11:04.279
third The ending was the only thing I didn't really love.233602:11:05.079 --> 02:11:09.079
I thought the ending felt really kind of unearned and odd,233702:11:09.359 --> 02:11:11.000
and if the ending had been strong. It probably would233802:11:11.039 --> 02:11:12.760
have been one of my top horror movies the whole233902:11:12.840 --> 02:11:17.760
year because it had such an immense amount of symbolism,234002:11:17.840 --> 02:11:20.399
Like the symbolism was so thick. I knew I was234102:11:20.479 --> 02:11:23.960
missing things because I was like so busy looking at things.234202:11:24.000 --> 02:11:25.199
I'd be like, oh my gosh, Like one of the234302:11:25.239 --> 02:11:26.720
big things is that keep saying like you want to234402:11:26.720 --> 02:11:28.840
be the goat the greatest of all time. And there's234502:11:28.920 --> 02:11:36.520
goat symbolism everywhere, like the animal everywhere, and an immense234602:11:36.520 --> 02:11:41.760
amount of biblical symbolism too, like obscene amounts of biblical symbolism.234702:11:41.960 --> 02:11:43.920
So I really thought it was a fun movie. I234802:11:43.960 --> 02:11:46.359
really enjoyed it, but yeah, the ending didn't quite work234902:11:46.399 --> 02:11:49.840
for me. But if you like kind of weird, challenging,235002:11:50.399 --> 02:11:54.159
heavy duty horror, it's really a good time. And then235102:11:54.199 --> 02:11:59.680
finally I watched the latest Stephen King adaptation, The Long Walk,235202:12:00.119 --> 02:12:02.960
based on his novel of the same name, which is235302:12:03.000 --> 02:12:07.319
basically a story about fifty kids. Well they're adults sort of.235402:12:07.439 --> 02:12:11.079
I mean they're like young men who they apply for235502:12:11.159 --> 02:12:13.880
a lottery to go on what's called the Long Walk,235602:12:14.439 --> 02:12:16.720
and it's where you have to walk at three miles235702:12:16.760 --> 02:12:21.680
per hour until nobody else until nobody else can go.235802:12:22.279 --> 02:12:26.199
Whatever doesn't stop wins, and if you stop, there's rules,235902:12:26.199 --> 02:12:27.880
like you have thirty seconds to start up again. You236002:12:27.920 --> 02:12:31.279
get one warning. After you hit three warnings, they shoot236102:12:31.279 --> 02:12:31.960
you in the head.236202:12:32.279 --> 02:12:35.640
Oh that's yeah, problem.236302:12:35.039 --> 02:12:38.640
Yeah, and you you that's it, Like it's it's really good,236402:12:38.720 --> 02:12:40.479
it's really interesting. I felt like it was a big236502:12:40.520 --> 02:12:43.920
allegory for military service because they were all excited to236602:12:43.920 --> 02:12:45.680
do it, and then the reality sets in that it's236702:12:45.760 --> 02:12:47.960
really because they know that you die if you lose,236802:12:48.439 --> 02:12:52.159
but the reality is harder, you know. And but they236902:12:52.159 --> 02:12:54.279
make friends along the way, which again I think plays237002:12:54.319 --> 02:12:56.079
to the concept of you know, how the military works,237102:12:56.079 --> 02:12:59.680
because people do make lasting friendships in the military stuff.237202:13:00.600 --> 02:13:03.119
And the winner gets an obscene amount of money and237302:13:03.239 --> 02:13:06.760
one wish granted by the bizarre totalitarian government.237402:13:08.359 --> 02:13:10.800
Can the wish be that no one actually died? Can237502:13:10.840 --> 02:13:12.600
it bring your friends back to life?237602:13:12.920 --> 02:13:14.960
Sadly, they actually say, like it's a wish that can237702:13:14.960 --> 02:13:18.359
be granted by like the government or the military.237802:13:19.199 --> 02:13:22.119
Can the wish be to dissolve the long walk?237902:13:23.239 --> 02:13:25.960
So apparently, so, first of all, you're not They mentioned238002:13:26.000 --> 02:13:29.920
that pretty early on. No, they suggest that in the past,238102:13:30.000 --> 02:13:36.239
people have died before they could win after suggesting that238202:13:36.279 --> 02:13:42.119
out loud. Okay, so, but that doesn't mean that the238302:13:42.119 --> 02:13:44.199
goal isn't for several of them to end the long Walk.238402:13:44.239 --> 02:13:45.720
And none of them are into it by the time238502:13:45.760 --> 02:13:47.800
there's down to like five of them. They all hate it.238602:13:48.000 --> 02:13:49.800
They all believe this is like the most evil thing238702:13:49.800 --> 02:13:52.119
you could do to anybody is put them through this. Yeah,238802:13:52.119 --> 02:13:55.439
it was really good. I liked it. My only complaint238902:13:55.520 --> 02:13:58.079
was one of the actors. He was really good, but239002:13:58.159 --> 02:14:02.560
he had a horrible accent, so bad his accent. He239102:14:02.640 --> 02:14:04.960
was doing a Southern accent, and his accent was so239202:14:05.119 --> 02:14:07.800
bad that I actually turned to Dave while we were239302:14:07.840 --> 02:14:10.000
watching it and I went, was I not paying attention239402:14:10.119 --> 02:14:12.359
or did he not have an accent before? Because it239502:14:12.359 --> 02:14:14.520
would come and go, Oh, he would all of a239602:14:14.520 --> 02:14:17.760
sudden have this real long drawl and then he kind239702:14:17.760 --> 02:14:20.600
of talked to some normal yeah, and it got to239802:14:20.600 --> 02:14:23.239
be really distracting. And he's British, so when he said fuck,239902:14:23.319 --> 02:14:25.920
I was like, oh, he's British. They all say who240002:14:26.199 --> 02:14:29.479
you know. Remember if you're ever talking to somebody and240102:14:29.520 --> 02:14:31.920
you're worried they're British and hiding it. Tell them to240202:14:31.960 --> 02:14:36.680
say the phrase federal court order. They'll fall apart. It's240302:14:36.680 --> 02:14:38.880
just impossible to fake the American accent and say federal240402:14:38.920 --> 02:14:42.520
court order. Yeah. Interesting that You're welcome. That's a free240502:14:42.640 --> 02:14:46.000
tip for everybody listening. But yeah, I enjoyed the long walk.240602:14:46.039 --> 02:14:47.760
If you like Stephen King stories and you don't mind240702:14:47.760 --> 02:14:51.319
a really dour concept, it's really fun. Before we get240802:14:51.319 --> 02:14:53.199
out of your cell, is there anything creepy going on240902:14:53.680 --> 02:14:55.000
in reddit land?241002:14:55.880 --> 02:14:58.760
Okay? So I have this one and it's interesting because241102:14:58.760 --> 02:15:02.239
that deals with Stephen King slightly. Oh okay, I mean241202:15:02.279 --> 02:15:07.079
not really. But so there's this human the poster. It's241302:15:07.079 --> 02:15:08.880
from Glitch in the Matrix.241402:15:09.159 --> 02:15:09.520
Okay.241502:15:09.560 --> 02:15:15.840
And so they were they were like texting their friend241602:15:16.399 --> 02:15:18.680
and they wanted to quote a line from Stephen King's241702:15:18.680 --> 02:15:20.560
book on Writing, which you know about.241802:15:20.840 --> 02:15:22.279
I love that book. I've read it twice.241902:15:22.720 --> 02:15:27.239
Yeah, so they went to quote. They so they like242002:15:27.479 --> 02:15:31.640
couldn't remember exactly like what they wanted to quote, So242102:15:31.680 --> 02:15:34.000
they opened the book to that page and found the242202:15:34.079 --> 02:15:36.279
quote and everything, and then they were like, let me242302:15:36.319 --> 02:15:38.079
get something to drink. So they went in the kitchen,242402:15:38.199 --> 02:15:41.960
left the book open, came back ninety seconds later, book242502:15:42.039 --> 02:15:45.439
is closed. So I assume when when we're talking about open,242602:15:45.439 --> 02:15:47.760
we're talking about upside down open, So it can't close.242702:15:47.840 --> 02:15:52.880
It's not book is closed. No, no, no, no, sorry, I'm wrong. Sorry,242802:15:52.880 --> 02:15:56.680
everybody come back. Ninety seconds later, book is gone, no242902:15:56.760 --> 02:16:01.119
longer on the table, okay, And so oh they're looking243002:16:01.159 --> 02:16:03.520
like all over the house for it, like freaking out,243102:16:03.600 --> 02:16:06.840
like I was just doing this. Eventually they just decide243202:16:06.840 --> 02:16:08.359
like I'm just going to go take a walk because243302:16:08.399 --> 02:16:11.600
I can't deal with this. Come back. Book is on243402:16:11.640 --> 02:16:16.760
the table, closed, So they open it to the page.243502:16:16.920 --> 02:16:18.720
Actually they open it and it just opens right to243602:16:18.760 --> 02:16:22.319
the page that they wanted to and right next to243702:16:22.359 --> 02:16:27.119
the quote let me pull this back up in in243802:16:27.239 --> 02:16:29.800
blue pen in handwriting that kind of looked like their own.243902:16:29.840 --> 02:16:33.600
It said you already know this, which is weird because244002:16:33.639 --> 02:16:35.360
they don't write in their books.244102:16:35.799 --> 02:16:36.520
Yeah, who does?244202:16:37.200 --> 02:16:38.479
Yeah I don't.244302:16:38.959 --> 02:16:40.920
I don't either. That is so weird.244402:16:41.399 --> 02:16:44.639
Yeah. I think it's a carbon monoxide thing.244502:16:44.520 --> 02:16:47.840
Honestly, Yeah, yeah, it sounded carbon monoxide. Did they post244602:16:47.879 --> 02:16:51.879
a photo of the book the note? They did not see.244702:16:51.920 --> 02:16:54.399
That's why not. It's so it would be so easy244802:16:54.440 --> 02:16:55.000
to share.244902:16:54.799 --> 02:16:57.639
That it would also be easy to fake it too, though.245002:16:57.760 --> 02:17:00.280
Yeah. I mean that's kind of my point, is like245102:17:01.319 --> 02:17:03.600
it feels even more sketchy that you wouldn't take the picture,245202:17:03.639 --> 02:17:05.200
since even if it was fake, it wouldn't be hard245302:17:05.200 --> 02:17:06.559
to fake it. Yeah.245402:17:06.600 --> 02:17:08.559
I mean, I haven't gone through all of the comments,245502:17:08.559 --> 02:17:12.600
but I don't see anything suggesting. Oh, this person said245602:17:12.639 --> 02:17:13.959
carbon monoxide poisoning.245702:17:15.639 --> 02:17:19.000
Yeah, that sounds like old carbon monoxide poisoning to me. Yeah.245802:17:19.040 --> 02:17:20.200
That's creepy though.245902:17:20.040 --> 02:17:22.719
Yeah, it is. It is It just like if it246002:17:22.760 --> 02:17:25.280
looks like you wrote it and you don't remember writing246102:17:25.319 --> 02:17:27.360
it and you couldn't find like that sounds like you246202:17:27.479 --> 02:17:29.200
just you're gonna die in your house.246302:17:29.600 --> 02:17:33.239
Oh yeah yeah yeah, and not like it'll be scary,246402:17:33.239 --> 02:17:34.399
even not in the way you think it'll be.246502:17:34.799 --> 02:17:35.200
Yeah.246602:17:35.440 --> 02:17:39.680
Yeah. Well, thank you Chell for making sure we're plugged246702:17:39.719 --> 02:17:42.799
in properly to the reddit hive mind for creepiness.246802:17:43.239 --> 02:17:43.959
You're welcome.246902:17:44.479 --> 02:17:46.600
I do appreciate that, and I appreciate all of you247002:17:46.680 --> 02:17:49.840
guys listening to Monthly Spooky. We've done so many of247102:17:49.879 --> 02:17:53.280
these episodes now, I think we're up to almost thirty episodes. Wow,247202:17:53.680 --> 02:17:56.239
there's something really fun about wrapping up the month by247302:17:56.239 --> 02:17:58.440
talking about spooky stuff with a little bit more humor247402:17:58.520 --> 02:18:01.319
to it, having a good time. I really appreciate it.247502:18:01.520 --> 02:18:04.120
I just appreciate you guys listening, and thank you Michelle247602:18:04.120 --> 02:18:06.399
for doing the show with me. It really does mean247702:18:06.440 --> 02:18:08.280
a lot to me to be able to hang out247802:18:08.280 --> 02:18:09.760
with you and annoy you in a way that is247902:18:09.840 --> 02:18:13.000
captured forever for posterity, instead of the way I normally248002:18:13.040 --> 02:18:13.440
annoy you.248102:18:14.000 --> 02:18:14.200
Yeah.248202:18:14.760 --> 02:18:19.440
Yeah, And we'll be back at the end of October248302:18:19.479 --> 02:18:22.200
on the twenty seventh to talk about Halloween a little248402:18:22.239 --> 02:18:24.840
bit more, have some fun, and make sure you're all248502:18:24.879 --> 02:18:28.280
in the spooky state of mind, because sometimes it can248602:18:28.319 --> 02:18:30.639
be hard. Life can get challenging, you can end up248702:18:30.719 --> 02:18:33.639
working a lot or whatever and you just lose that spirit. Well,248802:18:33.680 --> 02:18:37.000
we're here to help bring it back, baby. So until248902:18:37.040 --> 02:18:41.239
next time, for myself, for my executive producers Rob Fields249002:18:41.319 --> 02:18:44.760
and Bobotopia dot Com, my producer Dan Wilder, and of249102:18:44.760 --> 02:18:47.360
course our composer Ray Mattis, we will talk at you249202:18:47.399 --> 02:18:49.520
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Weeklyspooky dot com slash Join. I did everything out of249602:18:56.719 --> 02:18:59.639
order because I'm just so hungry. So, Michelle, you have249702:18:59.680 --> 02:19:01.879
the Finn a word. Please don't say anything mean about249802:19:01.920 --> 02:19:03.200
those before docks and owners.249902:19:03.879 --> 02:19:06.760
Oh well, then I don't have any of our final250002:19:06.840 --> 02:19:10.000
parts doctor, damn it
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