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Tonight on the CBS Saturday Night Movies. This gentleman saved
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this little girl's life, but they accused him of.
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Harming her, and he was tragically murdered.
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Now, one by one, the men of this town are dying.
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Who is his avenger? Is it the dead man's grief
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stricken mother, the little girl who loved him? Or would
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it be the Scarecrow? Dark Knight of the Scarecrow? Coming
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up next.
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In a world where podcasts reigned supreme, two friends dare
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to ask.
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Do You Even?
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Movie?
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Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David de Neuer.
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Spoiler alert, Hello, my friends, and welcome back to Do
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You Even?
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Movie? I'm, of course your host, Enriquekuto here with my
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good buddy and lover of violent vengeance maybe David Denoyer. Greetings,
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and we have a very special, very spooky Halloween episode
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this week. We do as opposed to the other weeks
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of Halloween episodes we've already done this month.
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I think this is the spookiest.
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Well, I would be hard pressed to disagree. Yeah, because
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this is Tonight's episode is all about the nineteen eighty
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one made for TV movie Dark Night of the Scarecrow,
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which is in a very small and very exclusive list
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of made for TV horror movies that just traumatized the
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United States.
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It was one of those movies that I was lucky
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enough to have known about it when that Blu Ray
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came out, because it had been one that had been
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sought after by every horror person. I mean, there was
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a Horror Hound issue. I remember that put they put
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out in like the early to like early twenty tens.
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I want to say that we was all about like
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horror titles that were still only on VHS or had
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never gotten off VHS, and this was a big one
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that they were wanting to see finally get a release.
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Yeah. I actually saw it for the first time on
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Blu Ray. Yeah, because when it came out, it was
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such a big deal and I had been I had
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been hearing things about Dark Knight and the Scarecrow for
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a very long time.
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Yeah.
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So it was one of those movies that I didn't
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think I was gonna like it as much as I
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ended up loving it. Basically why, I don't know, like
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TV movies. I'm a big fan of TV movies, Like
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you know this because we've watched a lot together, sure,
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but at the same time, like I was kind of
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a picky bitch again. Like like we said last week,
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I was kind of a picky bitch at this point,
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and I thought you were too good for the time.
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I didn't know if the TV movie was going to
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be good. I didn't know if the TV movie was
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going to keep my attention. I didn't know if it
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was going to be scary as it had been.
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I mean said a movie that's literally made to keep
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you from changing the channel. Yeah, and you were like,
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I don't know, I mean, what were you like, I mean,
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Trilogy of Terrors freaking laying? Was that your argument?
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I hadn't seen Trilogia Terror yet? What triulya Terror? I
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didn't see until probably twenty twelve.
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Geez, that's wild.
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I got the Dark Sky DVD and that's how I
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saw it for the first time.
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Well fair enough, Yeah, Well, but before we dive into that,
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and also talk about going to the Brimstone Haunts, yes,
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which we did. After last week's episode on Scary Movie
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nineteen ninety one, I became enamored and obsessed with going
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to a haunt. You did, and I made that happen.
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You did.
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But before we get to that, there is an important
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topic that we need to cover. Okay, very important in fact,
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for the first time ever on even movie, we have
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b roll of David in Cleveland, Ohio, Jesus and apparently
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no sound, no sound, although I mean, we're just not
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getting it. We found your yellow belt. Trying so hard
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to try, so hard to make this work.
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Yeah, yell, why was that? Because it is a long
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that's well for.
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The people who are watching, they're witnessing it. This is
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what happens when everything is live and also and also
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truly horrible. So we'll try. Okay, we're going to do this.
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This will work this time, this time. Yes, that's a
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my bad, it has been. I've never done a live
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switch on the show. But this is David receiving his
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yellow belt at Cinema Wasteland in.
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Cleveland, so special.
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Something is going to deliver it. Okay, we found your
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yellow belt. Look at that.
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Now you got your yellow belt.
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You finally have your yellow belt.
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I was so just not.
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No, you wouldn't even wear it.
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I would not wear it. No. For one, it did
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not go with anything I.
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Was wearing yellow and literally go together. No, they do
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not whul Cogan would would definitely disagree with you. Yeah
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he would. So, no, what you what you're mad? All
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we wanted to do was reunite you with your yellow and.
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Now I have it, so so now we can never
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talk about it again. It's it's done.
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Probably, Yes, if you wore it on the show, that
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was good.
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I've actually meant to grab it tonight.
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But I forgot hurtful.
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Well, I'm sorry. I in my defense, I got nothing.
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That's fair.
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Yeah, I got nothing.
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No, that's completely an utter.
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No. But if anybody's wondering why I look pretty agitated,
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it wasn't because of the yellow boat. It was because
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my drive to Cleveland got forty five minutes to an
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hour extra added to it because it diverted me around Columbus,
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And because of that, I was on back roads going
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through forty two and whatnot, got stuck behind a bunch
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of semis, got stuck behind a bunch of slow drivers,
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and also had to pee really bad the entire time
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during all this. But I didn't want to stop and
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lose my place in line.
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And because of that, you were that grumpy the next day.
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That wasn't the next day. That was when I arrived.
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Dude, I thought that was on.
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That was literally when I arrived. Yeah, I know for
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a fact, because I was wearing my Frank Zappers shirt.
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Okay, I guess I'll have to take your word for it.
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Yeah, I mean you absolutely can.
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I don't usually trust David, especially when he's explaining why
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he's in a bad mood, which is there's always a reason.
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That's the that's the law of David.
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I mean, there should be a reason.
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There's always a reason that he's in a bad mood.
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H October fourth.
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That a Friday, because it was fourth, fifth and sixth.
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All right, fine, you're right on Ah, no.
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Believe me. I remember I just I had just arrived
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at your table and you said you had a gift
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for me.
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Yeah. Well, never again, no gifts for David. Everybody. Just remember,
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if you do something nice for David, he will treat
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you like a sack of shit. This is some sie
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I think. So you told the story about how you
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earned a yellow belt on the show and then lost
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the yellow belt. We were trying to make you whole.
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You're trying to meet me a whole.
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We were trying to allright, more than just one friend.
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Well, I appreciate it regardless.
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Do you. I do well. Beyond that, we did go
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to the Brimstone Haunt yes, last weekend, shortly after recording Yeah,
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the next day after recording Yeah, and had a pretty
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damn good time. Dave is too good to have a
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good time, so he was just like standing with his
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arms cross going like, it's not even scary. You're not
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even scary. That's what Dave did the whole Whereas he
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was like, yeah, because I was scared, like a good person,
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You're supposed to be scared. That's the point of going
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to a haunt.
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I think, I think the story we need to tell, though,
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is is the horror, the horror moment that you experienced
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of me saying that there wasn't there was nothing wrong
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in one corner and then there turned out to be
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a person there that suddenly came to life.
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Oh oh oh no no yeah. Yeah. So so at
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the Brimstone Haunt in Wilmington, Ohio, they have three attractions.
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didn't go to because the paintball.
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That's not an attraction, that's a midway, that's a game.
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It's a game. Yeh.
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Yeah. Right, So they had the Bog, which is a
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haunted trail. Yep uh. They had a haunted hay ride
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forgetting what was.
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Called I think of the first one either the hay
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ride I think was just called I feel like it
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was just called the haunted hay Ride.
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I I I of course, and now forget.
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It's all good.
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But they also had a haunted house. Basically, they had
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a house, a trail in a hay ride. Yeah, and
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which is a pretty good earning, a pretty good way
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to haunted hayride.
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The bog psychosis, psychosis, Okay, psychopath.
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our friend Tommy Gunn. But so I loved that we
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got to experience for one price, we got three, three haunting, haunting,
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haunting experiences. And when we were doing the psych I
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think was psychosis.
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Psychosis is the first one that we did the Bog.
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Then we ended with that.
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Trying to the one that you brought up.
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Oh that would have been that would have been psychosis.
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Yeah, yes, that was what I was saying. Yeah. So, literally,
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like a horror film, we're walking through, you know, the
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the rooms with the flashing lights and the loud music
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that disorients you. Also, Dave just left the group by
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the beginning.
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Let me interject here, because I was behind was the
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first for the last one.
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Now at that point, you were the last one. The
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last came the first one.
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Yeah, because basically what had happened was you guys had
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gone into the Haunt. I was right behind you, guys.
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I turned a corner and y'all were fucking gone.
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Well, Dave didn't notice the person saying get in the elevator.
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I didn't see a person at all.
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Well, they were only wearing white.
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There was no one there when I got into the haunt.
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It was a hallway that was the rest of the haunt.
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And then you fuckers were gone.
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And we didn't run off. We literally just walked up
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to the guy. He went to where you were supposed
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to go, Yeah, to the guide, and then the guide
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ushered us into the elevator. Yeah, we experienced the elevator,
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which was really fun. Yeah, but then we realized that
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you weren't there. We assumed that it was part of
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the show. Nope, No, it was Dave just meandering off
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on his own.
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I was not meandering. I don't know how I got separated.
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I was right behind you at one point and then
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I wasn't.
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The woman who was guiding us was also like, I
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have no idea how he didn't follow us. So that's
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number one. But the experience that David was mentioning was
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we went into one of these rooms and there are
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all these rooms with hanging bodies and stuff, and there
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was one body that had like arms up and it
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was hanging there and Dave literally looks around and then
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you turn back to me and you're just kind of
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like saying something, and as you say that, the body
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hanging the one arm just comes down in the other
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and it was literally like a horror movie because you're
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looking away and now I'm seeing her reveal that she
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is in fact not a prop. Yes, so super super fun. Yeah,
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then the Bog was I was really shocked.
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It was so immersive because the bog starts off. You
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start off in this little town basically like you're right
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outside like a movie theater.
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Yeah, there's like a marquee of a movie theater right
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at the start. Then there's a crashed airplane.
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Creature that clicks its mouth.
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Well, that was the coolest creature of the entire night,
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almost truly mortified.
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Yeah, do You Even movie? Will be right back, welcome
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back to Do You Even?
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Movie?
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And as we walked through the path kept going and
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going because at first I was a little nervous because well,
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I was nervous because it was scary, but I was
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a little nervous because it seemed like there was wasn't
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a lot going on until I realized that that was
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because we weren't even halfway through.
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No, we walked the entire whole side of the park
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because we started at the same side that you start
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on Psychosis, and then when you came out of the bog,
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you were right next to the hay Ride.
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the Haunt, and there was a lot of wandering dark woods.
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would really grab you, and I had a really good
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time with that. But I have to say I think
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that the highlight was the hay Ride, absolutely, and we
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were all excited to get on the hay Ride, David,
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especially because I've not been on a hay ride since
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I was a child, and they were very scary. Well,
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in my day, a haunted hay ride was you got
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on the trailer and the tractor would pull you and
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like crazy people would like run after you with chainsaws
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and yell and chase at you and grab at you.
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Not this one, Nope, the Haunt actors were immediately jumping
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right in with us.
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We started at a state penitential penitentiaria that had like
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a sign everything we rolled into. They had people behind
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the bars and then they literally just hopped into our ride.
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Yeah, these like psycho prisoner dressed up people were jumping
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in and they were blaring death metal and then they
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had an execution happening off the side. It was really
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really cool. But that was just the beginning. As we
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start going through this hay ride, it was I know,
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I keep saying, but it was like a horror movie.
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But first of all, we passed through a drive in
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movie theater. We passed through an old abandoned amusement park.
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Auto shop.
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you did not know what was going to be around
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each corner. You could see up ahead like you're like, okay,
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that looks like a little bit of driving new building.
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But then you had people coming out of the cornfield.
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You had people hanging on the side that would jump
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onto the wacon Oh.
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Yeah, people would they would sneak onto the wagon.
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People wouldn't even realize you were sitting next to a haunter.
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we hear an engine rev and it's another tractor. Yeah,
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and it pulls up right behind us. And then just
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like a horror movie, as soon as it gets like
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right up to us, it just flips its lights on
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yep and honks and hanks, and then it albeit gently,
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it gently tamped us a few times, which was really
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freaking cool.
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Yeah, because then you had the hearst that drove up
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alongside us as well. Yes, the fire truck. Yeah, not
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to mention that you had a bunch of pyrotechnics here
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and there too.
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Yeah, there were some fire effects and things like that.
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And then what I think was probably the most impressive,
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a headless horseman on an actual with a human head
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jack o' lantern in his hand. Yeah. It was really
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really awesome and just what I needed because I've been
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working on godly hours this October to get the thirty
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one days of shows done on weekly Spooky and I
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really needed some Halloween time for me.
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I love that. We kind of also had to talk
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Jeff and Keith into it because they were they just
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weren't that into it. They were into that, and then
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it was just like, no, we're doing this basics.
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Well, they were willing, but then they weren't, like they
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weren't into talking about like where we're gonna go or whatever.
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But the second we got there, we having a great time.
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Although Jeff our buddy Jeff immediately resorts to reverts to
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dad mode. Oh yeah, just whatever. There was a scary
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actor to go, oh man, that's that kind of kills people. Yeah, yeah,
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he's a funny bastard.
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I would also like to point out that the refreshments
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and concessions were very well priced as well as delicious.
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Yeah they were good.
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I got a soft pretzel and an apple fritter.
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And I got this shirt from the shop.
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I would have gotten a shirt, but they were out
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of Excel.
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Well I'm sorry about.
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Should have lost weight. I guess so well, they had
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two XL and I was like, I don't want a
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night shirt.
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Night shirt.
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So anyway, it was a really fun time. If you
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happened to be in the Dayton, Ohio or Cincinnati area. Yeah,
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I do recommend you check out Brimstone Haunt. It's out
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by the Renaissance Festival apparently, which I didn't quite realize.
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The grounds almost.
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Yeah, well they have a gargantuan tract of land. So anyway,
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that was our Halloween fun. You're welcome that I made
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us all do that, because David was like, oh, I
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was just thinking I was gonna sit around and be mad.
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No, what I said was, that's what you said. What
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I specifically said was because I had not had a
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refund yet for my hotel room for Cleveland, was that
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I did not know if I had Haunt money yet,
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and luckily I did have Hant money.
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They take normal money too, well, they do.
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I didn't know this.
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Yeah, not just boo Bucks.
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Just boo Bucks. Are you ready to get into me?
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No? Yeah, of course, I mean we unform. Fortunately, there
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was not a horror film for us to see this week.
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No, but a Saturday Night. I would give it four
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out of five stars.
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Oh yeah, Saturday Night. It was pretty damn fun. Yeah,
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the Saturday Night Live origin story.
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I guess yeah, I'm going to read into that to
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see how much of that all happened.
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Well, I mean, obviously, I think they made it very
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clear that it didn't actually all happen an hour and
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a half.
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No, I think that that was all from the from
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the initial I don't even think of the word I'm
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blanking right now.
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Anyway, from the time they started developing.
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Yes, development, that was the word. I couldn't think.
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Okay, okay, well, well we're starting off on a good track.
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We are no more words.
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So we're talking about Dark Knight of the Scarecrow from
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nineteen eighty one, one hour and thirty six minutes rated
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TV fourteen.
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Ah, yes, well they Well that's weird. They didn't have
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TV fourteen.
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That's what it says on IMDb.
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Oh.
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I mean, but well, the TV ratings, the TV fourteen,
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TV m A, TVGPT, those are all self ascribed. They
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are not in any way overseen by anybody. I know,
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because when I first started putting my films on streaming,
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I found out that they were self designations. So I
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used them to help get my stuff through streaming.
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There you go.
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And then they'd be like, well, where did you get
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this certificate certification, I'd be like, look it up that
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there's none. You're the ones who accept it. It's not
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my fault, my fault.
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I guess it's rated of your discretioned advice at that
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point then.
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I mean, I guess. I mean they didn't have ratings
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for TV shows back then. It was on broadcasts, so
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there was no swearing, no nudity, no no blood. Really
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it was meant for families to watch. Yeah, it aired
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in October of nineteen eighty one, but I mean TV
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fourteen would probably be a fair rating for it today, I.
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Would for sure. Director of the film is Frank de Felida,
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and he gets his start as a writer in nineteen
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twenty three with Your Jeweler Showcase. Goes on to write
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for The Tales of Tomorrow in fifty two, Plymouth Playhouse
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in fifty three, Medallion Theater in fifty three, Armstrong Circle
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Theater in fifty four, Suspense in fifty four, Mattine Theater
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in fifty seven, Witchcraft in sixty one, The Savage Is Loose,
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Audrey Rose in seventy seven, The Entity in eighty two,
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which he has a novel and screenplay credit for Killer
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in the Mirror in eighty six and The Petthouse in
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eighty nine. He doesn't get his directing writing starting until
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sixty one, which was when he did Assignment Underwater, followed
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by The DuPont Show of the Week in sixty two,
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The Stately Ghost of England in sixty five, Doberman Patrol
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in seventy three, The Worlds of Jenny Logan in seventy nine,
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Scissors in ninety one. He unfortunately did pass in March
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twenty ninth, twenty sixteen, at age ninety four from dementia.
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Wow Wow. He lived a long time.
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Our writer on the film is JD. Viibelsen. He writer
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and director on The wind Splitter in nineteen seventy one,
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One of the Missing in seventy nine, Twilight Zone in
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eighty five, Darkkna had The Scarecrow in eighty one, of course,
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and then he's a writer of Course in nineteen seventy three,
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or High Dark Knight, The Scarecrow eighty one, Cry for
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the Strangers eighty two, Chiller in eighty five, Convent in
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eighty five, Nightmare on thirteen Floor in nineteen ninety, The
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Lake in nineteen ninety eight, that Yasmin Bleeth movie I've
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always talked about, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and Red
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Water in two thousand and three, the CBS Shark movie
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Yeah Shit, which I think has I think has lou
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Duvin Phillipson. If I'm not mistaken, I mean it better writer.
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Another writer on the film is Butler Hancock. His only
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credit is the story for Darknew The Character in eighty one,
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and then our cinematographer is vincent A. Martinelli. He gets
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a start as camera at Electrical Department for The Fugitive
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in sixty seven. He was assistant camera on that, The
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Invisible Man in seventy five. He is the camera operator
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Hellder Skeleter in seventy three or seventy six.
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Makes sense, I mean it was a TV movie.
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Yeah, camera op on that in Shadow Chase in eighty five.
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He doesn't get his director of photography credit until seventy
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six with Gemini Man, followed by writing with Death in
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seventy six, Quincymme in seventy seven, Bionic Woman in seventy seven,
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Man Drake in seventy nine, Samurai in seventy nine, The
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Amazing Spider Man in seventy eight, Spider Man The Dragons
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Challenge in seventy nine, Captain America two, Death Too Soon
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in seventy nine, The Seekers in seventy nine, Incredible Hulk
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in nineteen eighty, Race of the Wind in nineteen eighty,
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Enos in eighty one, Dark Knight, The Scarecrow in eighty one,
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The Quest in eighty two, Whiz Kids in eighty four,
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Amazing Stories in eighty seven, Simon and Simon in eighty three,
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and Major Dad in eighty nine. He unfortunately passed March
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fifth of twenty ten, at age seventy six. No death listed,
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No death cause listed.
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Well, that usually means natural cause, natural causes.
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Well, there's unfortunately gonna go ahead and preface this episode. Unfortunately,
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with this film, not a lot of people left alive
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who worked on it or were in it.
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Well except the writer, Yeah, the writers. So, ellies, you
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made a sequel to.
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People basically from what I could tell from what I
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said as well.
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Well, most of the characters are older in the film
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and it's eighty one, yeah, so which was a long
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time ago.
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Well, perfect example, Like when I give our cast here
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in a little bit, none of them are alive.
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Anymore, even the little girl.
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Well, I'm saying the ones that I name.
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Oh yeah, I forget. Remember we found out recently Dave
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doesn't consider women a part of projects.
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Shut the fuck up? What tagline's photography. Taglines for the
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film include the original classic what has this girl done
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in the drive?
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Is that?
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What has this girl done that is driving the town mad?
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What is the terrible act people are about to commit?
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And who is the only person who can save her?
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That sounds like such a tagline from a newspaper back
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in the day.
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Other tagline and all new chiller for Halloween.
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That yeah, definitely makes sense.
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And last, there is other justice besides the law.
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Well, this is a TV movie, so it didn't have
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like traditional posters or traditional marketing. It would have had commercials. Yeah,
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tons and tons of commercials.
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Ib synopsis says, in a small southern town, four vigilantes
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wrongfully execute a mentally challenged man, but after the court
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sets them free, mysterious accidents begin to kill them off
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one by one.
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It's pretty that's a pretty solid description my synopsis.
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When four vigilantes who wrongfully kill a mentally challenged man
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are set free by the courts, all four men to
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begin to find themselves being picked off one by one.
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In strange accidents.
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That was basically the exact thing. Okay, well, I mean,
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you can't get much more accurate than that. It's not
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a complicated film. It's not.
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Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back, Welcome back
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to Do You Even?
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Movie.
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The cast includes Charles Dirning, who plays Otis Hazelrig in
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it two hundred and seventeen credits on his resume. By
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the way, I believe that, so Dirting gets to start
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in nineteen fifty three with You Are There, The Defenders
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in sixty three, yp NYPD in sixty seven, Hi Mom
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in nineteen seventy, The Pursuit of Happiness seventy one, Sisters
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in seventy two, The Sting at Dog Day, Afternoon, Break
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Heart Pass, The Choir Boys, The Fury in seventy eight,
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The Muppet Movie in seventy nine, When a Stranger Calls
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at seventy nine as well, okay, The Final Countdown in
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nineteen eighty, True Confession in eighty one, Dark Knight, The
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Scarecrow eighty one, Sharky's Machine in eighty one, Best Little
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Whorehouse in Texas in eighty two, Toutsy in eighty two, Scarface,
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Death of a Salesman stand Alone in eighty five. Oh, okay,
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that movie that we watched where he's the badass.
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Oh I love that movie. That is the most that
519
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that morbidly obese old man just slaughters everybody. Oh yeah,
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no problem o. And he's the hero.
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He's the hero. He literally says at one point, I
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am death.
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Yeah no he uh and he sure was here was
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that movie was nuts.
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Amazing Stories in eighty five, Cop in eighty eight, Dick
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Tracy in nineteen ninety, When a Stranger Calls Back in
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ninety three, Houtsucker Proxy in ninety four, IQ in ninety four,
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The Last Supper in ninety five, Home for the Holidays
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in ninety five, A Brother, We're Art thou Styton, Maine
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in two thousand. He unfortunately passed in December twenty fourth
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of twenty twelve natural causes at eighty nine.
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I lived a long life, Yeah he did.
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Moving on down to our list. Lane Smith, who plays
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Harless Hawker in the film one hundred and twenty two credits.
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They are definitely a This movie is like a soup
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de jore of character actors of that era.
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Absolutely gets his start in sixty six with an Holy
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Matrimony Kojack in seventy five, Rooster Cogburn in seventy five,
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Network in seventy six, The Bad News Bears and Breaking
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Training in seventy seven, Blue Collar in seventy eight, The
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Rockford Files, Over the Edge, Prince of the City in
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eighty one, Dark Knight of the Scarecrow, Purple Heart, Red Dawn,
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Amazing Stories, Twilight Zone, Prison in eighty seven, Night Game,
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Air America, My Cousin Vinie in ninety two, Of Course,
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Ah Dientical, The Mighty Ducks in ninety two, Son in
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Law ninety three, The War at Home in ninety six.
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Yes, that's where I remember him the most is from
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the War at Home. He is like that, you old fart,
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old fart.
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Won't you cut your damn self? You'll fart Walker Texas
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Ranger in nineteen ninety nine, King of the Hill in
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two thousand. Lane Smith unfortunately passed away June thirteenth, two
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thousand and five, at age sixty nine lateral sclerosis.
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Ouch yeah, and.
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Moving on down is Larry Drake, who plays Bubba in
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the film. He gets his start in nineteen seventy one
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with The Stuff Will Kill You Date with Kidnapper in
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seventy six, Battlecreek Brawl in nineteen eighty, Dark Knight, The
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Scarecrow eighty one, The Karate Kid in eighty four, Hunter
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in eighty seven, wherew Wolf the TV series in eighty eight,
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Tails from the Crip at eighty nine, Dark Man, Doctor Giggles,
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La Law, and dark Man two, The Return of Durant,
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Outer Limits, The Beast Bean, Batman, Beyond Star, Trek, Voyager,
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American Pie two, Six Feet Under, Firefly, Seventh, Heaven, Boston Legal,
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and Dead Air in two thousand and nine. We unfortunately
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lost Larry Drake in twenty sixteen March seventeenth, at age
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sixty seven to blood cancer.
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Yeah, he passed away out that long ago. He was
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pretty much royalty and hit to meet him, Huh did
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you ever get to meet him? No? I did not.
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I got to meet him. I want to say it
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would have had to have been like twenty thirteen or
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twenty fourteen. I think at Days of the Dead. He
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saw my Doctor Giggles and very nice guy. I was
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really happy to talk to him and talked him about
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dark Man and Doctor Giggles and it was a lot
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of fun just chatting him up.
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I've never heard a negative thing about him. Yeah, and
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I'll never I'll never be able to separate him from
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Durant Robert G.
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Durant at this time. Dark Knight of the Scarecrow is
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currently available on AMC Plus, Peacock, Pluto, Roku, Chub and
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also available on Blu Ray from VCI I think. Also,
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did it get a four K or is it getting
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a four K soon?
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I don't know. And it was also on shutter Yes,
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we literally watched it.
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Yeah, that's AMC plus.
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They're not always the same.
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They are on IMDb apparently.
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Well, I'm just telling you they're not always the same.
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First time watching the film, what was it like for you, sir?
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Well, I had heard about it many, many times from
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my buddy Andy. He loved Dark Knight of the Scarecrow.
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He would always kind of pontificate about how creepy it was,
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how scary it was. And I had dabbled a little
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bit in the made for TV horror space with.
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What was it called Are You in the House Alone?
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Are You in the House Alone? Thank you? With that
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one and the initiation of Sarah, and I found those
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to be pretty damn creepy. Now are You in the
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House Alone is really not a horror movie in the
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traditional sense is it's much more a thriller drama about
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a woman who's abused by popular kids in her neighborhood.
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They're all like, you know, uh, seniors in high school
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and then terrorized for standing up. But it's a made
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for TV movie. It's actually kind of much more of
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an after school special type of thing. So the whole
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point of that film spoiler alert, it came off like
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fifty fucking years ago. But so, I mean, one of
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the major points of that film is that she does
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testify against a powerful guy. Do you remember who it is?
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Isn't it Quaid?
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Dennis Quaid.
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Yeah, it would have been better if it had been
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Randy Quaid. Dennis Quaid works in a Pinchah. Yeah, he's
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well and he's supposed to be playing eighteen, so it
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makes it makes perfect sense. But that film is very scary,
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but it's not, like I said, a traditional horror movie.
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It's a it's a drama. It's a torn from the
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headlines story about bravery and courage, and and very poignant
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of its time period because it's about women standing up
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against powerful men and they harmed them and things like that. Yeah,
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very good film, fantastic, So with those that I had
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seen and maybe one or two others, I'm oh in
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Trilogy of Terror was another one that's famously scary made
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for TV movie. When this came out on Blu Ray,
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I was like, oh, now is the time, So I
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snatched it right up the week it came out. And
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I remember, because this was so long ago, I didn't
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even have a TV in my living room, so I
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remember getting cozy in my bedroom after getting off of work,
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putting in the disc and watching it, you know, right
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next to my big screen TV, and just being so
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deeply creeped out by the atmosphere of the film. The
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way it's shot is truly wonderful. I'm honestly shocked that
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the director of photography didn't have for lack of a
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better way of putting it, more artful stuff. He mostly
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did TV. Well, he was damn good. Yeah, because this film,
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especially now being able to watch it fully remastered on
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thirty five millimeter film, it's shocking how good it looks.
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It looks incredible, and how deep and rich the photography is.
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Because it was scanned to probably if it was eighty one,
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it was probably not pneumatic but basically one inch tape,
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and it would not have looked amazing. It would have
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looked probably good, though it probably would have looked grainy
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and weird and eerie. But man, I just I remember
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when it was over and I was kind of chilled,
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and I was like, man, that was really creepy. All
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I could think was like, my god, if I had
651
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been like seven years old and my family were like, well,
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let's gather around the TV set there, spooky movie for Halloween.
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And then it was that roof because the film goes
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from from being very slice of life to brutal to
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kind of ghastly and then kind of dreamy. Yeah, it
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really bounces around in a very interesting way that definitely
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left me going damn, no wonder people like to say
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this film scarred traumatized them. Yeah, yeah, no wonder. Yeah.
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So but what about you, David?
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So this was kind of, like I said earlier, this
661
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was like a white whale due to its popularity, but
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it was not very readily available. So when that Blu
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Ray DVD came out in twenty ten, I believe that
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my uncle had burned me a copy of it, and
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that was the first time I actually got to see
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it was it was in how the annual Halloween package
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you would share me okay or send me and I again,
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like I popped it in not knowing what to expect.
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I was kind of looking forward to it, but also
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was prepared for it to not be as great as
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people had told me. Wow, I know I was a
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little shit back then. It's fine back.
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Then, shut up.
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So obviously blue oul expectations away. It was really it
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had really like scary parts to it. I love the
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theme to with the music in it is really eerie. Yeah,
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definitely even watching it with you and I just now
678
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the cinematography in it. Some of the shots of especially
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some of the attack sequences or the haunting sequences are
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really really well put to the screen because there's just
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certain lighting elements to it and everything. It just it
682
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was one of those movies that I immediately knew that,
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like this was going to be an October Stable for me.
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So I was really really happy when I got my
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own copy. I got to meet J. D. Figelsen when
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I got my copy and he signed it actually, So
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it's one of those movies that I think you really
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have to give it the chance because you will not
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be disappointed. I don't think at all with it.
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Yes, and I wanted to double check. Dark Knight of
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the Scarecrow is available in four K as a double
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feature with Part two, which we'll talk about a little
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bit later. But it was made recently and it was directed.
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It was written and directed by the gentleman who wrote
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the original screenplay, who has since regained all of his
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rights to write film, which I do think is for
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awesome that he was able to do that, even if
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the film was okay. But I don't know that. I
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don't know how the hell he could have knocked it
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out of the park when you have a film like
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Dark Knight of the Scarecrow that not only has great cinematography,
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legendary character actors, a pretty damn high budget. I mean,
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those TV movies were made for a few million dollars
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often because I mean you have to think about back
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then when there were only there was only network television.
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I mean, it was worth millions of dollars, yeah, to
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entertain people for two hours. Yeah, because you'd have freaking
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a third of America watching. So they had everything going
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for that first one. And then on top of that
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nostalgia to make it that much sweeter. Then you have
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Part two, which is a B movie.
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It's fine.
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If I remember correctly, it wasn't terrible, But I'm just saying,
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like the fact that you have to compare them. Yeah,
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because it's a sequel, I actually think it might have
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been kinder if it was a remake, people would have
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been kinder to it. But it's just so hard to
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follow and act like that, especially when a film has nostalgia,
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because that's something you can't you can't buy it, you
720
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can't plan for it. In fact, one of the things
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about Dark Knight of the Scarecrow that I think makes
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it so effective is it looks even older than it is.
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Yes, the same thing.
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When I think back to it, I never think it's
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from the eighties. I always think it's from the mid seventiesventies, Yeah,
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but it's not. It's absolutely from nineteen eighty one. So,
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and I think that a lot of that has to
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do with it taking place in a rural town, with
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it having older actors in it who were in themselves
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actors from an older era. You have a lot of
731
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those elements, and also kind of that small towns have
732
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.519
big secrets mentality that was really amping up in the
733
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.920
seventies as a story point, both in books and movies
734
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.760
and TV shows. So, man, I kind of want to
735
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:54.679
buy that four K.
736
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:56.760
For twenty three bucks. That's not bad.
737
00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:59.840
You have twenty four dollars after tax. Dave doesn't pay
738
00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:00.400
us taxes.
739
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.199
Shut up? So but no, I think honestly too. What
740
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.880
what really caught my attention with Darknight Scarecrow was just
741
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.880
seeing Charles Derning play a bad guy because I was
742
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.079
used to it. Not M not doing that.
743
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:13.599
See, and I mentioned to you earlier like I have
744
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:17.480
the opposite because I first really recognized him from Dark
745
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:19.679
Knight the Scarecrow. So when he would pop up and
746
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.440
be the kindly old man down the road, I'd be like, oh,
747
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:23.800
trust killed Bubba.
748
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.079
Yeah, so but Bubba didn't do it.
749
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:27.159
But Bubba didn't do it.
750
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:28.559
So you ready to get into it?
751
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:30.559
Why the hell not? All right?
752
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:33.440
So we open as we are in a nice field
753
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:35.239
and we meet Bubba who is playing with the little
754
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.679
girl Mary Lee in the field. They're picking flowers, they're
755
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.719
singing songs. It's a nice day out.
756
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.599
It's actually like fucking beautiful. Oh they're in a field
757
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.000
full of flowers. Yeah, And bubba is what we might
758
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:55.599
call touch. Yes, that's that's the word. That word, that's
759
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:57.360
the word my mama would have used when I was
760
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:57.920
a young boy.
761
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.000
Yeah.
762
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:11.199
Do you even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back
763
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:14.360
to Do You Even movie?
764
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:18.880
He is slow.
765
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:21.599
We learned he's thirty six, Yeah, which.
766
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:26.880
I'm thirty eight. Look have you looked at those photos
767
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.639
where people say, like, here are eighteen year olds in
768
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:33.039
nineteen eighty one and they look like they're thirty five. Yeah,
769
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:34.880
there's a little bit of that and a little bit
770
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:36.679
of I'm sure he was older than that, Yeah, and
771
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.280
a little bit of Larry Drake is an odd looking guy.
772
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:42.480
He is so but he's perfect for this role because
773
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.400
one thing I think Larry Drake can do very well
774
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.760
is kind of like Michael Berryman. Although Michael Berryman from
775
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.519
the Hills have eyes, he has a skin condition where
776
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:56.599
he has no hair and no fingernails, and his head
777
00:36:56.639 --> 00:37:00.360
is kind of an odd shape. They can both they
778
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.679
both look off putting. Larry Drake obviously more like just
779
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:05.840
kind of because he has big teeth, big eyes, you know,
780
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:09.360
kind of whatever. And they can both completely disarm you
781
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:12.320
with how they speak. They can both come off as
782
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:16.719
extremely tender if they want to. If they're an actor,
783
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:20.000
they're acting. So when you see them in a role
784
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.000
like you don't see Larry Drake get to be tender
785
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:25.599
very often. And when he starts talking to this little
786
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:28.480
girl and she makes him a lay out of flowers,
787
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.159
but then when she wants to put when she gives
788
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:32.440
it to him, she says, you have to get a
789
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.639
kiss because that is the law in Hawaii. You get
790
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:38.239
to kiss on the cheek with your lay. And he's like,
791
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:42.079
oh no, no, but it's not. It's in no way
792
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:46.320
creepy or adult. It literally is like a little boy
793
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:48.079
who's a little afraid of girl.
794
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:50.519
It's perfect.
795
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.159
It's it's really truly perfect. And him sitting there in
796
00:37:54.199 --> 00:38:00.159
his overalls just being a big country kid. It's it's
797
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.480
it's really a gorgeous moment.
798
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:03.960
It's a great introduction to the character and well to
799
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:07.159
both characters. Honestly. Yeah, you see that they're the best
800
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:09.760
of friends. And even though there's the there's the difference
801
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.360
in between the two that there is, there's nothing weird
802
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.320
between them there. It's all wholesome and and really cute.
803
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.079
Yeah, and and also sad because this is his only friend.
804
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.480
And yeah, one day she'll grow up like probably all
805
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.280
of his friends. Yeah, you know, unfortunately, but but you know,
806
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.800
it's I could get very sentimental very quickly. Gotcha, Oh
807
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:31.960
do you? So?
808
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.119
We also see that otis played by Charles Derning, is
809
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.679
across the field watching them with binoculars and he does
810
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:38.760
not like what he is seeing.
811
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:43.280
No, he does not. He is positive that Bubba is
812
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:46.400
a is A is a. I was gonna say pedophile,
813
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:48.840
but but I think better word would be pervert.
814
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:49.199
Pervert.
815
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:53.039
Yeah, he feels like and and there's a whole subtext
816
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:57.400
where it seems like the reason he thinks Bubba is
817
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.519
a pervert is because he's kind of a pervert. Yeah,
818
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.639
but I think, I really I know, because like the
819
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:04.360
way you react to I said, your eyes got really big.
820
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:06.639
I really think it was subtext though, No, I think
821
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:08.159
it was too. That was one thing I picked up on.
822
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:09.679
We'll get to it later in the movie. We will
823
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:12.599
talk about it. But there's like two instances where it's mentioned,
824
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:14.719
like where people are just like, ah, you know, why
825
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:16.119
are you so concerned and everything?
826
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:18.039
Yeah? Why do you care so much about all this?
827
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:20.639
And I and I think that that's you know, because
828
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.840
there's a lot of what I like to call ghastliness,
829
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.880
which is when when, especially in older movies, we don't
830
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:30.119
get this as much now. But Poe was really big
831
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.360
on the ghastly element of horror, the idea that, like,
832
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:39.440
after you've killed someone, there's this thick dread and guilt
833
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:44.199
that just permeates everything. Yeah, this movie has lots of
834
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.920
that life. I love to call it ghastly horror because
835
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.199
it's it's a reality of the crime, and we don't
836
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.480
get that a lot in modern stuff anymore. It's a
837
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:55.480
little bit like we're too desensitized. We have way too
838
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.119
much out and out murder.
839
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:59.840
And one thing I love about this movie in particular
840
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.199
is the small town vibe to it, because that makes
841
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:05.719
everybody know everybody. Yeah, there's no secrets, even when there's
842
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:06.440
a big one.
843
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:10.320
Yeah no, exactly, Well there are really no secrets, which
844
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.360
plays into later why they don't even know who to
845
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.079
think is coming after them.
846
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:15.559
Yeah.
847
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:21.760
So anyway, I digress, but the characterizations are really good here. Also.
848
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:25.159
It falls into that trope of having three or four
849
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:28.559
guys who commit a heinous crime and having like the
850
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.440
one who keeps everyone in line and the one who's
851
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:33.880
scared they're gonna get caught, and the one who was
852
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:35.360
never really on board to begin with.
853
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:35.840
Nope.
854
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.320
So we see otis driving to town and he is
855
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.480
talking to Harris Harless Hawker, who is his buddy, and
856
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:45.480
he's basically saying that they need to do something about
857
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:47.280
Bubba because he's hanging out with the Mary Lee girl.
858
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.400
He's no good. You know, we need to do something
859
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:51.280
about it. And Harles says that he can kick him
860
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.159
around little bit and scare him, but that's really about
861
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:54.840
where he's comfortable leaving it at.
862
00:40:55.119 --> 00:41:01.760
Yeah. Yeah, and again you know that's that's country living.
863
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:04.280
We can bully the mentally challenged kid, but we can't
864
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:05.880
can't do it like hurt him.
865
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.239
Yeah. So we see Bubba and mary Lee walking home
866
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:09.960
from a field and she catches sight that one of
867
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:11.639
the neighbors has a new fountain in their yard as
868
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:13.519
she's peeking through a fence and she's like, you know,
869
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.119
well we should go look at it, and Bubba's like,
870
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:17.280
oh no, no, I don't want to go. She realizes that
871
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:18.800
one of the boards is loose, so she goes over
872
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:20.519
to the fence and she's like, okay, well you stay here.
873
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.599
I'm just gonna go play in the fountain. So Bubba
874
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:24.079
watches her play in the fountain for a little bit,
875
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:27.360
and then a dog comes out and it is snarling,
876
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.559
it is growling, and it wastes no time going after her.
877
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:33.719
Yeah, well, she's in his yard. Yeah so, and Bubba
878
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:36.800
doesn't know what to do, so he busts through the fence,
879
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:39.480
bust through the fence to rescue her from this mean dog.
880
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:41.320
And we don't see what's going on. We just hear
881
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:43.599
the biting, we hear her screaming, and we saw Bubba
882
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.239
break through the fence, and that's the last of it. Yes, yes,
883
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:49.079
so then so that's when we cut to a woman
884
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.400
in the kitchen. She's going about and she hears a
885
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:52.880
knock on her door. She answered the door, and we
886
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:54.639
find out this is Mary Lee's mother, because on the
887
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.079
other side of the door is Bubba holding a lifeless
888
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.000
body of Mary Lee. That's bloody. He's bloody to you.
889
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.639
And all he is doing is saying tearfully, Bubba didn't
890
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:02.880
do it.
891
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:08.159
Yeah. Well, and and he's not very verbal. No's that's
892
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:11.000
something I glossed over when I was going on and
893
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.800
on about their interactions. Yeah, but he could basically say
894
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:17.679
like no and yes and maybe like a couple of
895
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:19.679
other things. But he's not extremely verbal.
896
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:21.639
No, he can do about like five words each sends.
897
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:22.760
It feels like yeah, yeah.
898
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.320
He's not super verbal. So him saying Bubba didn't do
899
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:27.199
it is the best he's got.
900
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:27.880
Yeah.
901
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.440
So Harless rushes to the post office tell Otis about
902
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.000
the incident, and Otis is like, I told you, I
903
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:34.039
told you this is gonna happen. So he wastes no time.
904
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.199
He closes up his office, he grabs his pistol, and
905
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.199
he tells Harris to get the dogs and the guns
906
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.719
because we are going after Bubba. So we see a
907
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:43.360
mob assemble as they drive out to Bubba's and we've
908
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.760
got his buddy Skeeter, his buddy Philby and Harless with them,
909
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:48.599
and they are all armed, and they got their dogs
910
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:50.559
and they're ready to basically get blood.
911
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:53.039
At this point, I gotta ask your parents at some point,
912
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:54.639
why the hell they didn't name you Skeeter.
913
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:57.599
I always think of Doug's friend.
914
00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:59.840
All we all need a buddy named Skeeter.
915
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:00.960
Is this that the fact?
916
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:01.599
Yes?
917
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.079
So we also see Bubba racing home through the field
918
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.079
at this point, So the mob's closing on him. Bubba
919
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.119
makes it to his MoMA's door and she answers it
920
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:10.360
and she's trying to console him, but of course he's hysteric.
921
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:12.400
You know, I didn't do it, and you know, as
922
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.079
as Enrique said, he's not very verbal, but he's hysteric
923
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.199
at this point in trying to basically say that he's innocent,
924
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:19.440
and his mom one hundred percent of believes him because
925
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:20.360
she knows her son well.
926
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:22.440
She knows that he's a delicate person. He would never
927
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:23.039
hurt anything.
928
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.599
Yeah, So she tells him that he's a good boy
929
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:27.440
and no one's going to hurt him, and that they're
930
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.639
going to play the hiding game, just like last time.
931
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.079
Which also suggests why his first words were, Bubba didn't
932
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.920
do it. Yeah, because he's clearly been a scapegoat for
933
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:43.480
the town's ills. Yeah, because people have come looking for
934
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:47.760
him before. Yeah, and she had, you know, he had
935
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:49.679
a special hiding place that no one was able to
936
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:53.599
find him. And it's kind of brilliant, it really is.
937
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:56.880
So anyway, so Bubba remembers and he says that he
938
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:58.679
can he can hide, he can play it real good.
939
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:00.800
Otis goes to call for Bubba as he arrives up
940
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:02.800
front of his house, and that's when Miss Ritter emerges
941
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:04.159
and she's, you know, like, what do you do on
942
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.519
my property? And Otis tells him it's official business, and
943
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.480
she states that he wouldn't hurt anybody, especially children, because
944
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:11.840
he's no older in his head. She also adds that
945
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:13.719
he isn't here, and Otis is like, I don't know
946
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:15.679
if I believe you, Like, let's see what the dogs say.
947
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.039
And the dogs, you know, they start picking up a
948
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.599
cent and Otis warns her that she's obstructing justice, but
949
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:22.880
she argues it's her property as she slams the door.
950
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:26.639
And he's not a cup, he's a fucking post Yeah,
951
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:28.400
he's a goddamn postal worker.
952
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:30.960
So the dog's vick was sent and they head towards
953
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:33.199
the field and they wonder out to a lone scarecrow,
954
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.039
and Otis believes the dogs are mistaken until he approaches
955
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:39.480
the scarecrow and the camera being brilliant in its movement.
956
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:42.360
At first, we see nothing in the eyes. It's black,
957
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.159
there's nothing behind the eyes. And then as Otis gets closer,
958
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:46.920
Bubba is clearly behind the mask.
959
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.400
Yeah, we see him looking terrified, shaking because he's holding
960
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.840
his breath. Yeah, eyes super wide. It's one of the
961
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:56.599
most memorable images of the entire film, and it's in
962
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:59.639
the first like six or seven minutes. Yeah, it's so
963
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.079
scary because then we realized, like, of course, no one
964
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.039
ever found him before, because he was hiding inside of
965
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:08.639
a scarecrow. Yeah, which is a brilliant move, especially for
966
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:10.800
someone who has the mind of a child. Yeah, to
967
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:12.360
go hide in a scarecrow.
968
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:13.119
And it's a creepy look a scarecrow?
969
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.440
Mind you too, what's a scarecrow you've seen that was
970
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.519
either not scary or even sexy?
971
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:19.239
The Wizard of Buzz.
972
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:26.840
The speed at which you answered that makes me proud
973
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:32.920
and worried. Worried. Yeah, give me your car keys. You're
974
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:34.480
not driving out of here like this.
975
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:37.199
I live in Troy. There's too bid of scarecrows. Don't
976
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:37.639
worry about it.
977
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.840
I'm married. I'm married. Why is he yelling I'm married
978
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.320
at that scarecrow? Joy, Just go back to your own business.
979
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:48.639
That's just the denoyer.
980
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:50.880
Boy, God, I need to revisit Pearl. It's been a while.
981
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:53.840
So the men draw their weapons as Otis takes aim
982
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.480
at first he fires the first shot, and then they
983
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:59.119
fire along with him, and we also find out that
984
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.079
they've end up firing twenty one shots.
985
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:04.000
Yeah, it's straight up at twenty or twenty one, twenty one,
986
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.440
it's straight up. A firing squad is taught. He is
987
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:12.320
up on a cross basically, and he's just getting blasted away.
988
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.679
And after they've shot him to death, they get a
989
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:22.599
call over his radio. Yeah yeah, and find out that
990
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:25.079
the little girl is not dead. But they had said
991
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.840
flat there like she's dead, she's dead. He brought her
992
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.159
dead body over. They find out not only is she
993
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.320
not dead, she is alive, awake and telling everybody that
994
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:39.440
Bubba saved her life. And this is the first ghastly
995
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:44.039
moment of the film. It's that moment where they all
996
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:47.599
look at each other because they realize that what they
997
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:53.320
did was just murder. Yeah, And of course our main
998
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:58.559
antagonists are our mailman, Our happy go lucky mailman is
999
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:02.039
arden that they still did the right thing, because like,
1000
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:03.840
even if he didn't hurt her, he would have one
1001
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.760
day or he already has hurt kids or something. So
1002
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:12.639
he concocts a plan to set him up that is
1003
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:18.079
so stupid, so thin, so well, nothing about him is thin.
1004
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:22.639
So I felt so bad for that little car he
1005
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.920
was driving around when he when he would get out
1006
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:26.559
of it, I was like, damn, those shocks are good.
1007
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:29.920
Must have been made in Detroit City. So uh, oh,
1008
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.960
come on. He was a funny. He was a great actor,
1009
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:37.679
and he's perfect in this role. He decides to put
1010
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:41.440
a pitchfork in Bubba's dead hands.
1011
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:42.920
But he can't get it. He can't get the hands
1012
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:43.400
to hold it too.
1013
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:44.800
It's almost like he's dead. Weird.
1014
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:46.639
Uh.
1015
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.760
They they get him to basically hold this this pitchfork
1016
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.159
so that they can suggest that Bubba, who had no
1017
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.599
history of violence whatsoever, Yeah, came at them with a
1018
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:01.239
pitchfork and they were just at four men with guns
1019
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:05.079
self defense on his own property, self defense, and that
1020
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:11.920
they had to unload on him. I mean, if each
1021
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:15.440
of them had shot him once, yeah, it would be
1022
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:20.639
vaguely believable. Yeah, if each of them had shot him once.
1023
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.920
But they all just unleash the fucking beast on him.
1024
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:24.519
They really do.
1025
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:26.119
It was really gruesome.
1026
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:26.519
Yeah.
1027
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.840
So he puts the damn he puts the damn pitchfork
1028
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.639
on him in the scarecrow outfit and they're like, well,
1029
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:38.039
now the long dick of the law, Well, fuck somebody.
1030
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:41.000
Right then you pointed or then you said the ghastliness.
1031
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:43.519
We start to get a thing that occurs in the town.
1032
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:45.760
Now a wind is blowing through the town.
1033
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:51.199
Yes, sercely, yes, And the wind becomes symbolic of something
1034
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:55.360
going on. Yeah, which I love that simplicity. Yeah, there's
1035
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.840
there's a wind. Whether we see it or we hear it,
1036
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:00.760
the wind starts blowing through this town.
1037
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:13.960
Do you even? Movie will be right back, welcome back
1038
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:15.239
to do you Even?
1039
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.159
Movie?
1040
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:24.840
And this next part is super torn from headlines. Oh yeah,
1041
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:28.280
because you know, we're in eighty one, so we're not
1042
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.559
that far removed from Jim Crow. We're not that far
1043
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:35.119
removed from segregation, and we're not that far removed from
1044
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:40.199
towns that just plane did not protect the rights of
1045
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:46.719
certain citizen individuals. Yes, whether they be black flavor or
1046
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:50.719
brown flavor or simply gay flavor.
1047
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:51.639
That is also true.
1048
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:53.639
I don't know why I went with flavor, but I
1049
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:55.679
stand by stand by. Hey, you know what.
1050
00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:58.480
We cut to a court room where the men are
1051
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.679
on trial, obviously for the murder of Buba. We see
1052
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.239
Otises on the stand as the prosecutor argues that they
1053
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:05.719
were vigilantes, they were men that had no right, and
1054
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:08.639
the defense throws the pitchwork down, arguing that Bubba was armed.
1055
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:14.000
Bubba was armed on his own property.
1056
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:14.440
Yep.
1057
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.519
The price prosecutor states that Bubba might as well have
1058
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:19.920
had a feather duster against the mob. Otis lies and
1059
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.159
says that they did everything they could to not hurt him,
1060
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:24.440
but they had to defend themselves, and the prosecutor states
1061
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:27.360
that Bubba had twenty one bullet wounds in him. The
1062
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:29.360
judge then calls the counsel to the stand and tells
1063
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:31.960
them the dude to no evidence or witnesses from the prosecution,
1064
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:33.639
he's ruling in favor of the.
1065
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:40.239
Men and the I want to laugh, but I really
1066
00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:44.639
know that this is based on something well on many
1067
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:49.159
yeah stories of these little towns protecting their own and
1068
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:52.960
having no problem hurting people that they deem outsiders. Yeah,
1069
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:58.840
and Bubba's mom's reaction to this kangaroo court is really
1070
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:04.239
really sad. But I love one of my favorite characters
1071
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:06.000
who's not even in the movie this much, is the
1072
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:11.039
prosecutor because he is literally just straight up like, you
1073
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:15.599
guys killed him. You guys murdered a mentally challenged man
1074
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.079
on purpose. And when they're when they're all getting ready
1075
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:20.920
to leave, and he basically tells them like, if I
1076
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:23.960
find one shred of evidence, you're all going to death.
1077
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:24.960
Row, death row, death row.
1078
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:27.599
It's happening, which I thought was just like damn, Like
1079
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.360
he is, he is lit up. Of course, the guys
1080
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:33.039
have are just kind of like eh, yeah. And at
1081
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:35.519
one point he's looking at his watch, and that's one
1082
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:38.000
of my start one of my favorite lines is he
1083
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:39.719
looks as watching it. I'm sorry, am I keeping he
1084
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:42.000
He's like, well, I just want to see what time
1085
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:43.960
it is because down at my at the boarding house
1086
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.920
where I live, it's fried chicken knut. Yeah, And everybody
1087
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:48.840
kind of laughs. And then we smash cut to them
1088
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:51.000
all drinking at the bar, having a good old time
1089
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:54.480
because these good old boys got away with murder.
1090
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:56.400
And I love this shot because we're not in the bar.
1091
00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:58.599
We are right outside the bar. We see the we
1092
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:00.280
see the exterior of it, and then we just go
1093
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:02.760
down the street and that wind is blowing fiercely, knocking
1094
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:05.800
over trash cans, making all kinds of ruckus and then
1095
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:09.000
we cut over to Mary Lee. We see that her
1096
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:10.960
mother peeks in on her in her bedroom and she
1097
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:12.960
tells her husband that the past two weeks have frightened
1098
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.280
so much. Also, we find out that mary Lee has
1099
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:16.960
no idea about Bubba's demise yet.
1100
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:20.760
Yeah, she's been on bed rest. Yeah. And unfortunately they
1101
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:24.559
said that she had had no running, no playing, no TikTok,
1102
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:27.559
no ticks, because otherwise she would have seen people doing
1103
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.840
the Bubba's dead Bubba, the Bubba didn't do it, challengedd.
1104
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:31.559
Damn it.
1105
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:38.519
They're just so frank. Her husband states to tell her
1106
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:44.360
nothing and let it lie. God damnit. And back in
1107
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.519
her room, mary Lee awakens and she's looking out the
1108
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:49.920
window and she calls Bubba. She leaves out of her window.
1109
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:51.679
She leaves out through the window and goes over to
1110
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:54.840
his house, finds his window, knocks on it, calls him again,
1111
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:57.000
but of course there's no answer. So then she enters
1112
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:00.000
her the home and starts walking around, goes up the stage,
1113
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:01.880
and that's when missus Ridder comes out and she's like,
1114
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:03.360
you know, child, what are you doing over here? Like
1115
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:04.920
you're gonna freeze to death? Like, you know, what are
1116
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:06.840
you doing? Let's go down here by the fireplace. And
1117
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:08.960
that's when mary Lee asks, you know, where's Bubba, and
1118
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:12.320
missus Ridder basically has to break it down to her
1119
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:14.800
and like the simplest way possible and basically says that
1120
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:17.559
he's not here. He's not coming back, and mary Lee
1121
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:19.760
is like, okay, well he's probably hiding. I'll go find
1122
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:21.800
him and runs out of the house and she chases
1123
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.039
after him, or chases after her, but you know, it's
1124
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:25.679
no use. So she finds her out in the field
1125
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.119
and she's singing. She's sitting in the spot where they play,
1126
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:30.719
and that's when mary Lee tells her, don't worry, Bubba's
1127
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:32.119
just playing the hiding game.
1128
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:37.800
But something worth mentioning, okay, is this is the first
1129
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:42.679
truly scary scene in the film. I mean before this
1130
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:44.360
we had a lot of suspense, we had a lot
1131
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:49.800
of horror elements. But when she wanders to Bubba's house, Yeah,
1132
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:53.079
the blue light bathing over everything as the wind is
1133
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:58.280
blowing tree branches around, this is what makes this film work. Yeah,
1134
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:00.719
it is not. It's from nineteen eighty one. It's a
1135
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:03.760
TV movie. TV movies were always kind of old fashioned
1136
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:06.920
compared to the films and theaters because they were made
1137
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:10.440
for a mass market and generally an older market. I mean,
1138
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:14.360
before Roger Corman basically started making teenage movies, nobody ever
1139
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:16.679
made movies for young people. Yeah so, and that was
1140
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:21.440
in the sixties. It was so. My point is these
1141
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:26.880
sequences of the farmland bathed in moonlight, the wind blowing,
1142
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:30.480
the music swelling, a little girl in her nightgown walking
1143
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:34.000
up to an empty dark house, coming inside the house,
1144
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:39.199
the Bubba's mother finding her all that. It is so creepy.
1145
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:43.320
It is slow paced in what I would say is
1146
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:47.079
the best possible way. Absolutely it And that's why this
1147
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:49.679
film is is is a scary horror movie and why
1148
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:53.599
it's a great Halloween time movie because in my opinion,
1149
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:56.039
the and I think most people would agree. Maybe not
1150
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.199
you because you suck, but uh thanks, No, I mean,
1151
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:01.800
you know, it's it's a important to first rule of comedy.
1152
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:08.159
No Dave sucks. No, But but it's about getting that
1153
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:11.960
Halloween feeling from the atmosphere because you may be sitting
1154
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:13.760
at home, you may have one Jack o' lanner, and
1155
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:15.760
you may you may not have a Halloween party to
1156
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:18.079
go to. You may not have a haunted hay ride
1157
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.920
to go on, but you can put on John Carpenter's
1158
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:24.039
Halloween and it is Halloween and Haddenfield and you're a
1159
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:26.199
part of it. You can put on Murder Party and
1160
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:28.679
you are in New York City on Halloween night and
1161
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:30.920
you were stupid enough to show up for the Murder Party.
1162
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:34.440
You can any of these films gives you that. And
1163
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:36.840
it's the exact same thing with Christmas. I could tell
1164
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:39.280
you some really sad Christmas stories in my life where
1165
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:43.800
the thing that kept me going was Kevin McAllister's Christmas Tree,
1166
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.719
because at least when I watched Home alone, I felt
1167
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:48.440
like I had a Christmas of my own when I
1168
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:52.280
did not have one. So that's kind of my point.
1169
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:55.880
That's why I personally seek out event films. That's why
1170
00:55:56.519 --> 00:55:58.679
at Thanksgiving I want the Thanksgiving movies. At Christmas I
1171
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:00.599
want the Christmas movies, and Halloween I want that Halloween movies.
1172
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:07.920
It's that that element and being in a small, sleepy,
1173
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:14.239
wheat ridden town in the middle of America in fall
1174
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:20.320
with cold winds and stalks of corn and scarecrows. I mean,
1175
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.800
how much better do you get?
1176
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:23.119
Yeah?
1177
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.639
And then later there's a Halloween party, there's a Halloween,
1178
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:30.320
there's Halloween dance like this is so so good. If
1179
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.440
you haven't seen this film, we haven't spoiled much. So
1180
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.199
if you haven't watched this film yet, stop what you're
1181
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:39.719
doing and go to t B and watch It's it's
1182
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:41.840
ninety four minutes of your life that you will be
1183
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:46.320
very happy you gave up to a little TV movie
1184
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:50.119
that no one ever forgot anyway, Sorry, I just had
1185
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:50.840
to get that across.
1186
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:52.960
No perfect. So the next morning we see Otis Is
1187
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:54.840
on his mail route. We also see that Philby as
1188
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:57.840
at work at his at his feed silo, and also
1189
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.000
Otis drives out to Harless's house as he's working on
1190
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.360
wood chipper. His wife informs him that they got an
1191
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:04.760
invite to the church's Halloween party, and also asking if
1192
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:06.559
he started planting, and he's like, you know, well no,
1193
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:08.039
I'm working on this, Like why would I be planning.
1194
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:09.800
She's like, well, I didn't know otherwise why you would
1195
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:14.599
plan the scarecrow? And that's when Harlest stops looks out
1196
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:16.719
into the field and we see a scarecrow in the
1197
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.920
field resembling Bubba. So Harlest races over to the local
1198
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.480
restaurant where he finds Skeeter and Philby enjoying their beers, like,
1199
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.519
they invite him over and he confronts them. He's like,
1200
00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:25.920
you know, what the hell are you guys thinking, like,
1201
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:27.400
you know, that's not funny, and they're like, we have
1202
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:29.440
no idea what you're talking about. And he's like, well,
1203
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:31.320
there's a scarecrow in my yard. And they're like, we
1204
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:33.920
did not do it. So they both deny they had
1205
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:35.480
nothing to do with it. So now we're at the
1206
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.400
boarding house and Otis sits in his room enjoying a drink,
1207
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:41.079
a small drink, because we find out that he to
1208
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:42.440
the public, he does not drink.
1209
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:46.800
Yes, it seems to me what I gathered from multiple
1210
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:51.599
watchings is that he has this aura of righteousness Hereinus
1211
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:55.159
because he doesn't drink. Mate. I think maybe, if I'm
1212
00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:58.159
looking into subtext, maybe he had a drinking problem that
1213
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:00.960
was very public and that's why people have a kind
1214
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:03.159
of an opinion of him. Yeah, so him not drinking
1215
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:05.639
is his way of saving face, being like I don't drink,
1216
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:10.039
but then when he's alone, he's drinking. Or or it
1217
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:14.119
could be that I mean, and maybe you have a
1218
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:16.599
thought on this, or it could be that I'm completely
1219
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:19.840
overreading and in reality. He's just simply drinking to deal
1220
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:21.360
with the reality of what he did.
1221
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:22.880
That's kind of what I was thinking. But at the
1222
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:25.719
same time, we are two weeks past it, so I
1223
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:26.599
mean it would still be I.
1224
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:27.880
Mean, how long does you just taking to get over
1225
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:28.280
a murder?
1226
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:30.519
I mean I'm on week like four right now.
1227
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:33.159
Okay, that's not too I mean that's pretty good. You know,
1228
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:35.480
rookie numbers. But you know, you gotta ge those numbers. No,
1229
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:37.280
get those numbers down. You need to be forgetting about it.
1230
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.480
Three weeks in, man, it needs to be you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1231
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:42.360
So he's enjoying his drink on his bed and that's
1232
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:44.000
when he gets a knock from the woman who owns
1233
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.239
the boarding house, telling him he has visitors. And we
1234
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:49.079
immediately see that he's uneasy about that, and we find
1235
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:52.320
out why because he goes downstairs and there's Harless, Skeeter
1236
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:57.239
and Philby and immediately he's like, oh, gentlemen, nice to
1237
00:58:57.239 --> 00:58:59.000
see you. And he's like, you know, Kim, this weight
1238
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:00.639
like I think dinners about to be ready, and they're like,
1239
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:01.800
we need to talk to you right now.
1240
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:04.239
Yeah, And I think one of the reasons he hates
1241
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:06.840
seeing them is because they remind him of the crime.
1242
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:09.360
Well, I think they're being seen together in general is
1243
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:10.320
not a good idea.
1244
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:12.159
Well, because it reminds people of what they did. But
1245
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:17.079
I also think that there is a degree of guilty
1246
00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:19.960
feels for sure. I think that guilt kind of drives
1247
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:21.480
him to become crazier.
1248
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:24.079
Yeah, So they go up to his room and that's
1249
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:27.039
when they tell him. But the scarecrow sighting in Harless's pasture,
1250
00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:29.159
and Otis suspects that it's Sam, the district attorney, and
1251
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:31.000
he tells him to keep their lip sealed because this
1252
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:33.159
is probably exactly what Sam wanted, was them all to
1253
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:35.440
come over here and now it looks guilty by association
1254
00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:38.239
and that they are never to return to the boarding
1255
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:39.159
house ever again.
1256
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:45.559
And here's where this becomes a solid TV movie thriller, Yeah,
1257
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:51.800
because now it's a who done it? Or who's doing it? Yeah,
1258
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:54.159
And that is the kind of thing that keeps shit,
1259
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:57.239
you know, sitting through the commercials for Jello Pudding pops,
1260
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:02.159
and shit is waiting to find out, like is it Bubba,
1261
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:05.880
is it Bubba's ghost? Is it the little girl? Is
1262
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:09.679
it Bubba's mom? Is it the district attorney? Is it someone?
1263
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:13.280
Is it one of the guys who did it? And
1264
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:17.559
that is what really I think helps this movie hold
1265
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:21.199
tight because it's not a slasher movie in the traditional
1266
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:24.400
sense at all. It is a there is a Gradualno,
1267
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:27.960
there is slashings, yeah, I mean there's knocking off people. Yeah,
1268
01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:31.440
I mean there's a it's more of a grinding than
1269
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:37.719
a slashing and a snuffing. But no. And again like
1270
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:41.159
these the murders I would also describe in this film
1271
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:44.280
are ghastly because they're they're more about the reality of
1272
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:46.320
the death but not witnessing it well.
1273
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:48.400
And being being a TV movie, it's what you don't
1274
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:50.880
see that is scarier for sure.
1275
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:54.840
So I think that they just hit so many right
1276
01:00:55.039 --> 01:01:00.239
notes with this particular film. I there are there are
1277
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.880
very few things in life that have like a crazed
1278
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:07.480
cult following that I get it immediately like this film.
1279
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:10.320
Like this film, I really understand why people all over
1280
01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.079
America would not let it go. Yeah, because it was
1281
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:16.639
so memorable and so creepy and so well done and
1282
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:22.320
also moral moral. It's extremely moral. It's about righting wrongs
1283
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:26.119
and how justice sometimes is not justice no, so anyway,
1284
01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:27.480
and that would ring true with a lot of people,
1285
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:29.920
especially if they were growing up in the sixties and seventies.
1286
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:31.599
And then watch that film that is also very true
1287
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:31.920
to be Do.
1288
01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:44.480
You Even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to
1289
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:45.599
Do You Even?
1290
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:47.519
Movie.
1291
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:53.119
So later that night, Harlest returns home and he's looking
1292
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:55.280
pre distraught as he takes a swig of his booze.
1293
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:57.440
He wanders out to the field to find the scarecrow
1294
01:01:57.599 --> 01:01:59.880
is no longer at its post. It's just the post now,
1295
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:02.320
so he kicks the pole over and he returns home,
1296
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:04.559
but he stops because he's going into his house. He
1297
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.800
hears machinery fire up in his barn, so he enters
1298
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:09.440
to find that the wood chipper he was working on
1299
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:12.079
is now turned on, so he calls out, suspecting it
1300
01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:13.960
to be Sam. And he also hears that something is
1301
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:16.440
rustling above in the hayloff, so he goes up and
1302
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:18.119
one of the shots that I was talking about earlier,
1303
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:20.760
this shot here of him going over the ladder and
1304
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:23.440
just the light or absence of it that's on his
1305
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:25.280
face that looks like a mask almost.
1306
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:27.679
The light is going as far as I could tell
1307
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:32.320
through the ladder. He's climbing, so he has shadow and
1308
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:36.119
light as he's moving, so his eyes are sometimes very
1309
01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:40.039
well lit and other times he's bathed in shadow. And
1310
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:42.800
the fact that he's obviously he's going up a very slowly.
1311
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:46.400
He's taking his time because he's worried there's someone up there.
1312
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:50.559
He's you know, feeling haunted. And that's the best part
1313
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:54.079
about the scarecrow waiting there, is the scarecrow is haunting them,
1314
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:57.320
Yes he is. But the other thing is, at this juncture,
1315
01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:01.440
any one could do that. Anybody could anybody could make
1316
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:03.840
a scarecrow and put it on your lawn. Yeah, and
1317
01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:07.760
I will to you, Yeah you will.
1318
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:08.239
Yeah.
1319
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:10.800
Oh no, you're just gonna You're just gonna make love
1320
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:13.519
to the scarecrow I made with my own two hands.
1321
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.679
So he enters the loft and he grabs a handsighte
1322
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:18.800
because he sees nothing at first, so he slowly approaches
1323
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:20.480
the back of the loft. But as he's doing this,
1324
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:23.320
he's walking along the edge of the loft and suddenly
1325
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:26.440
the wood chipper fires back up. He loses his balance.
1326
01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:29.079
He cleans onto a light, but that is no hope
1327
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:31.719
for him, as he plummets right into his wood chipper.
1328
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:34.199
And as he falls in we just see the light
1329
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:36.199
he was hanging on to to try not to fall in.
1330
01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:39.360
They play this for heavy suspense. Yeah, he doesn't just
1331
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:41.760
what and go into a wood chipper. He grabs onto
1332
01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:44.159
a hanging light and as he's holding onto it starts
1333
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:46.920
breaking and shooting sparks around. Yeah, and when he finally
1334
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:49.960
drops down, we hear the woodchipper. Hear the wood chipper,
1335
01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.440
and we see the light just sitting there, rocking back
1336
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:53.480
and forth a little bit.
1337
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:55.639
And then we cut to the boarding house in the
1338
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:57.719
morning as Jelly is tossed to a plate.
1339
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:01.880
It's not a great edit, it's so good. It's it's
1340
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:05.960
freaking shades of Sam Raimi. Yeah, I mean literally falls
1341
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:09.599
in and then just cherry preserves right on a plate.
1342
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:09.920
Yep.
1343
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:10.280
Uh.
1344
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.880
Otis is enjoying his breakfast at the boarding house. Otis
1345
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:19.719
enjoys every breakfast, So he's enjoying his breakfast at the
1346
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:22.320
boarding house as one of the residents are telling him, oh,
1347
01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:23.800
you know, it's been a it's been a crazy morning
1348
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:25.480
so far, Like the sheriff was over there. There's been
1349
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:27.679
some please activity and ambulance and he's like, what's going on.
1350
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:31.400
He's like, oh, well, Harlest fell into his machine, so
1351
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:33.880
he finds out immediately the Harlest is gone now, so
1352
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:35.920
we see the body being loaded into the ambulance or
1353
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:36.559
what's left of it.
1354
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:39.159
Yeah, that was my first thought because it looked like
1355
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:41.519
there was a body shaped thing under the blanket. I
1356
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:43.199
was like, oh good, they put it in some hefties
1357
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:46.079
and then kind of, you know a little bit.
1358
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:48.599
It's like that freaking that memes going around or not meme,
1359
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:51.280
but the two guy the how to guide because it's
1360
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:53.679
Halloween time of like putting your milk bottles and everything
1361
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:55.440
together to make like the trash bag body.
1362
01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:58.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a fun way to make your
1363
01:04:58.880 --> 01:04:59.920
garbage bend nervous.
1364
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:03.000
So we see the Otis arrives outside the house and
1365
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:04.960
we also see that this wife is being consoled escorted
1366
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.360
to the DA's car. Otis and Sam also share a
1367
01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:09.480
glance right before he leaves, and then later that night,
1368
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:11.920
Otis speaks to Skeeter and Philby, who are convinced that
1369
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:15.199
this wasn't an accident. Philby even confirms the scarecrows out
1370
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:17.159
there last night, and Otis tells them to mine their
1371
01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:19.960
business before they all get caught. Philby then asks who
1372
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.000
turned the machine off then, and Otis states, oh, well,
1373
01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:24.400
you know, it's probably ran out of gas, and Philby says, well,
1374
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:27.360
how do you know? Smash cut to them entering the
1375
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:30.280
barn checking the gas to find that it is almost
1376
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:34.559
completely full, confirming that somebody turned off that machine. Otis
1377
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:36.239
adds the same person who turned it.
1378
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:40.360
On, yes again ghastliness. Yeah, and the way that they
1379
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:42.920
test it is by putting the handle of a shovel
1380
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:45.519
into the tank and lifting it up and seeing it
1381
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:49.159
soaking wet, which is a great way to visually show
1382
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:52.800
the audience instead of just saying it, which is really
1383
01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:53.360
works great.
1384
01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:55.280
So the next morning, Otis drives out to the Ritter
1385
01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:57.960
residence as Mary Lee comes out glaring at him. He
1386
01:05:58.039 --> 01:05:59.800
tries to speak to her, but she runs off, so
1387
01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:02.400
that Otis goes to knock on missus Rider's door and
1388
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:04.880
sneaky little bastard he is, he's off to the side.
1389
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:06.719
I never noticed that. Oh yeah, when he when she
1390
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:09.079
opens the door, he's off to the side and watching it. Yeah.
1391
01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:12.119
Yeah, no, he's he is haunting people as much as
1392
01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:14.320
supposedly Bubba. Yeah.
1393
01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:15.639
So he's like, oh, well, you know, I got a
1394
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:17.800
package and needs your signature, so she signs off, but
1395
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:19.440
then he puts his foot in the door, commenting on
1396
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:22.679
how he doesn't believe Harris Harless's demise was an accident,
1397
01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:25.440
and miss Rider confirm comments that there's other justice in
1398
01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:27.800
this world. I for an eye, and he says, okay, well,
1399
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.000
if that's the case, the score is settled one for one.
1400
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:32.039
You took one of mine, I took one of yours.
1401
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:34.719
We're done, and she's like, no, we're not.
1402
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:38.400
No, well, and then she grabbed him like in breaking
1403
01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:41.280
bats that we're done. We want to say we're done.
1404
01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:44.159
And then she told him she's the one who knocks.
1405
01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:46.000
On the knocks, so she warns him to stay away
1406
01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:48.320
from Mary Lee. And later that evening, Philby is closing
1407
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.599
up his feed store. He walks outside and notices that
1408
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:53.280
his hogs are going crazy and as he goes to
1409
01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:58.280
the pen. As he goes to the pen, he sees
1410
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.519
the scarecrow is now also in the field across from him,
1411
01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:04.960
so he approaches it, quickly, falling to his knees before
1412
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:07.039
sensing that he is most likely going to be the
1413
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:07.400
next to go.
1414
01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:11.840
Well, yeah, I mean I think that's pretty apparent.
1415
01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:14.360
Yeah, So we cut to the church Halloween party, where
1416
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:16.440
we find the town is all in their costumes having
1417
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:17.960
a great time. We see mary Lee and some other
1418
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:19.960
kids bobbing for apples and she's like, hey, why don't
1419
01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:21.639
we go play hide and seek? And that's when we
1420
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:23.880
see Otis is also watching outside of a window.
1421
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:26.920
He's always watching, He's always He's like Santa Claus. But
1422
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:28.920
now it's just like Santa Claus.
1423
01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:31.159
So mary Lee counts for her turn and then she
1424
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:33.880
turns to see who else but otis standing there, and he,
1425
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:35.559
of course is putting on the whole stick of like
1426
01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:39.760
I'm the mailman. Everybody knows the mailman, everybody loves the mailman. Yeah,
1427
01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:41.880
and that's when he says, you know, he comments on
1428
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:44.159
her costume, asking if she showed it to missus Ritter,
1429
01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:45.960
because you know that's her friend and you know she
1430
01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:47.880
might be playing a joke on him and his friends,
1431
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.880
and maybe she told her what that secret is, and
1432
01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:53.400
that he is more than happy to hear that secret,
1433
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:55.400
and has you know, has her come over. And that's
1434
01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:57.960
when she tells him, I know what you did to Bubba.
1435
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:04.719
And he's not supposed to know, no, which suggests somebody Yeah,
1436
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:05.639
is telling.
1437
01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:06.920
I know what you did to Bubba, and I know
1438
01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:11.079
that you lied, and Bubba told her everything. Otis questions
1439
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:12.960
if miss Ritchard told her, but mary Lee keeps saying
1440
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.239
that Bubba told her, even confirming that she knows that
1441
01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:17.760
he's dead. So mary Lee runs off and as Otis
1442
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:19.760
rounds the corner after her, one of the sheriffs is
1443
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:22.239
just like, hey, the party's up front.
1444
01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:27.680
Yeah, yeah, they're They're all trying really hard not to
1445
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:30.399
give him, not to have to deal with him, a
1446
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:31.199
better way to put it.
1447
01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:33.319
So Otis goes back to the party getting some punch
1448
01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:34.720
because at first he goes up to the woman and
1449
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:36.319
she's like, oh, you don't drink, So he takes the
1450
01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:38.720
non alcoholic punch at first, does not like it. Then
1451
01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:40.600
he gets the boozy punch, and that's when Philby and
1452
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:42.840
Skeeter find him, and that's when he tells him about
1453
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.760
the scarecrow. So the three venture out to Philby's field,
1454
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:48.720
and what do you know, no scarecrow there anymore.
1455
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:50.079
Not even the pole, not even the pole.
1456
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:52.159
No. So Phillby tells him that it was right there
1457
01:08:52.199 --> 01:08:54.680
and comments on Otis looking at him crazy, and Otis
1458
01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:56.159
tells him that they'll come back in the morning, but
1459
01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:58.800
Philby worries he won't have that time. It's gonna come
1460
01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:00.640
for him, and Skeeter states that they go to the police,
1461
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:02.479
and Otis tells him that'd be a stupid idea if
1462
01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:04.239
they want to spend their rest of their life in prison.
1463
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:08.760
M I mean three hots and a cot. That's true,
1464
01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:14.239
you know, and substantially, although not none less kill her scarecrows.
1465
01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:16.640
I just imagine. And then you said that, I just imagined,
1466
01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:19.000
just like Larry Drake as Bubba, just in like a
1467
01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:20.760
guard uniform, but it's still the scarecrow.
1468
01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:28.239
Yeah, a little stick time from the scarecrow. No, no,
1469
01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:30.079
you just get in there and there's just a gang
1470
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:31.039
run by the tin man.
1471
01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:31.680
Oh my god.
1472
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:33.920
He's like, I understand you fucked with a friend of
1473
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:37.399
mine on the outside. I'm gonna make all your life
1474
01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:38.640
very difficult.
1475
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:41.760
So later that night, missus Rinder sets by the fire.
1476
01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:43.960
She hears some noise that she goes through her kitchen
1477
01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:46.279
and shuts her back door before lighting the stove and
1478
01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:48.159
putting a kettle on. So she returns to a chair,
1479
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:49.920
and that's what we find out that Otis has snuck
1480
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:51.880
into the house. He covers her mouth, telling her that
1481
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:54.479
he warned her and this is the last warning. He
1482
01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:56.399
tells her it's gonna be an eye for an eye
1483
01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:58.920
this time there Even so he uncovers her mouth, she
1484
01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:01.279
lets out a scream, grabs her mouth again, and tells her,
1485
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:04.319
no tricks, We're done. I'll let you go. But as
1486
01:10:04.319 --> 01:10:06.720
he stands up and lets her go, we realize that
1487
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:08.800
she has met her own demice and had a heart attack.
1488
01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:13.880
He basically scared her to death, and again ghastly horror,
1489
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:17.199
he has that realization he killed this woman. Yeah, but
1490
01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:24.279
because he is built different, instead of bathing in that
1491
01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:27.399
that tragedy, he immediately is like, all right, gott to
1492
01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:28.079
cover up my track.
1493
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:30.640
Well, the kettle scares him, because that's my favorite shot,
1494
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.920
is him. The kettle goes off, So that's when he
1495
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:35.640
takes the tea kettle off the stove, and that's what
1496
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:38.159
he's like, Well, hey, I could just turn this gas on.
1497
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:40.800
There's a roaring fireplace. So he turns the gas on,
1498
01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:43.399
steps out, the car drives away. We see you close
1499
01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:45.279
up with the fireplace. The flame's going and then that
1500
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.359
fucking house just explodes.
1501
01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:50.479
It is a hell of an explosion and shut.
1502
01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:54.279
Down production for one day. Oh really schedule, Well it.
1503
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:58.479
Was way too big, but I will say, right, what
1504
01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:01.039
a great, great way to tell the It's like, hey,
1505
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:04.119
don't you leave before the third act? Yeah, like we
1506
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:07.359
got stuff happening. Yeah, because and and things are about
1507
01:11:07.399 --> 01:11:10.239
to get even more scary too. But that explosion is
1508
01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:11.800
just hell of massive insane.
1509
01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:13.640
So the next morning, we see mary Lee discover the
1510
01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:15.840
smoking remnants of Ritter's house as she goes up to
1511
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:18.000
see the police are looking over the wreckage with the
1512
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:20.359
da Sam, and that's when the cops states that he
1513
01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:22.560
believes it was a gas leak, most likely an accident,
1514
01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:24.800
nothing malicious, but Sam request that they look it over
1515
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:26.760
to see if they can find and that's the cops like,
1516
01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:29.960
what are you looking for? And he's like one single shred.
1517
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:34.319
Yes, and goddamn and this is a great red herring
1518
01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:37.000
moment for the prosecutor. Yeah, because that really makes you
1519
01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:39.800
start to think that maybe he's the one doing it
1520
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:43.039
and and frankly, maybe he is. Yeah, that's kind of
1521
01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:45.239
the thing it could have been. Yeah, and that's the
1522
01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:47.359
fun yeah of paranoise.
1523
01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:49.840
So Mary Lee sits outside her house singing a song
1524
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:52.479
while we see Philby, Skeeter, and otis all at their jobs.
1525
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:54.840
But later that night Philby is alone at the feed shop.
1526
01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:57.399
He starts to hear his hogs going wild again as
1527
01:11:57.399 --> 01:12:02.279
he euphemism okay, not to investigate, and finds nothing. And
1528
01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:04.720
that's when we hear a sound out by the silo,
1529
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:06.920
so he arms himself with the club. He makes his
1530
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:08.880
way over, and that's when he finds a chain just
1531
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:10.760
blowing in the wind against the silo.
1532
01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:16.880
Which is eerie, yes, to say the least, again bathed
1533
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:23.239
in blue moonlight, when sounds rustling music delicately playing. Yeah,
1534
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:28.760
and most importantly, his facial expressions, the amount of fear
1535
01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:34.960
on his face is so so believable. Yeah, he and
1536
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:36.920
he and he really you buy it. You buy that
1537
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:39.560
he's this good old boy. You buy that. He's this
1538
01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:44.159
honky dory farmer who did something really dark. He's got
1539
01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:49.079
some dark secrets, he does, and he is rightfully so
1540
01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:54.199
terrified that those dark secrets are about to come back.
1541
01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:56.880
They are because as the chain makes him laugh a
1542
01:12:56.920 --> 01:12:58.640
little bit, he goes back towards his office. If that's
1543
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:00.640
when he sees somebody in his office off the light,
1544
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:03.520
so he runs to his car, he cannot get it started.
1545
01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:05.720
He starts getting super scared and clutching his chest, so
1546
01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:08.079
he takes a pill. Then he chars the car again
1547
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:10.039
with no success. So he gets out and decides to
1548
01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:12.239
check the car, but then he sees that somebody is
1549
01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:15.600
coming towards him, so he runs into the silo, hiding,
1550
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:18.479
locking himself in. But that does not work for him
1551
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:21.439
because then the silo turns on as the feed in
1552
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:23.399
the grains starts to pour in on him.
1553
01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:25.000
Yes I think it was feed corn.
1554
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:26.000
Yeah, feed corn.
1555
01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:29.479
Starts starts pouring in from the top. And this is,
1556
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:32.039
in my opinion, the most memorable kill in the film,
1557
01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:35.600
absolutely because not only because it's terrifying, because for real, like,
1558
01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:37.239
what could you do?
1559
01:13:37.439 --> 01:13:38.039
Yeah?
1560
01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:41.880
Nothing? No, we never see anyone turning the machines on.
1561
01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:44.439
We never see anyone holding him in the silo, so
1562
01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:48.600
he can't get out. It's all just darkness, and as
1563
01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:52.960
it fills, he struggles and struggles, and it just keeps filling,
1564
01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:55.479
and people really do die like that. That can happen,
1565
01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:59.079
although silos are far more likely to explode explode because
1566
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:01.319
the dust can be come very very flamma.
1567
01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:06.439
Oh yeah, do you even movie will be right back.
1568
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:16.359
Welcome back to do you even movie?
1569
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:25.239
As it rises and rises, it's depicted in such a
1570
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:27.119
hitchcocky and gradual way.
1571
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:28.399
Well, he's got his flashlight too.
1572
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:31.159
Yeah, shines his flashlight around for yeah, exactly, and then
1573
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:34.880
eventually he drops the flashlight and we see his hand
1574
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:36.680
stop doing anything.
1575
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:39.880
Yeah. So he is now suffocated. And the next morning,
1576
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:41.840
Otis goes out to see Skeeter to tell him about
1577
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:45.199
Philby hearing this news, Skeeter just goes hysterical himself, and
1578
01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:47.079
Otis tries to tell him it was an accident, it
1579
01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:48.640
was a heart attack, and he's like, well, which was
1580
01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:50.720
it was an accident heart attack? He's like, it was both.
1581
01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:52.920
He got scared, he got stuck in the silo, and
1582
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.119
he had a heart attack. So he also tells Skeeter
1583
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:57.760
not to panic now and that Otis believes it was Bubba,
1584
01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.199
but Skeeter denies it, stating that Bubba's buried, you know,
1585
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:01.960
they killed him, that he's buried in the ground now,
1586
01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:03.720
and Otis asked him to make one deal with them,
1587
01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:05.720
that he can prove it before they go to the police.
1588
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:08.239
So they go to the cemetery that night and they
1589
01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:10.880
find Bubba's grave, which they dig up, and that's when
1590
01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:13.119
Skeeter is shown to be the last one in the grave.
1591
01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:15.640
As he's digging, they open the coffin and he is
1592
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:17.640
freaked out because Bubba's corpse is still inside.
1593
01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:25.560
Yes, and again ghastly horror. Or there's this awesome shot
1594
01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:28.960
of when he's down looking in there where they're basically
1595
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:33.439
from below looking up through the hole at Otis up
1596
01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:37.119
top watching as this guy is digging. Otis is bathed
1597
01:15:37.159 --> 01:15:40.199
in that moonlight and the guy digging has a lantern
1598
01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:41.239
lighting him.
1599
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:43.039
Both of them bathed in durha and Otis is starting
1600
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:44.359
to look really fucking crazy.
1601
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:47.239
Yeah. No, he looks like he's gone completely mad. And
1602
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:50.920
now that they've confirmed Bubba is dead in the ground,
1603
01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:55.279
to them, at least initially, that establishes that this is
1604
01:15:55.279 --> 01:15:58.720
Bubba's ghost, although I think that Otis is really thinking
1605
01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:02.439
more that this is the Dayah, who is one of
1606
01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:05.640
the only people they're suspecting that's not mary Y.
1607
01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:08.640
Yeah, well and mary Lee, who is literally a child.
1608
01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:10.319
The fact that he's like, it could be that little
1609
01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:15.600
girl she's like six, yeah, uh so uh yeah, So.
1610
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:18.600
They opened the they opened the coffin, and Skeeters immediately
1611
01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:20.920
freaked out. He's running. He's gonna tell the cops, you know,
1612
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:22.760
he's he's telling Otis he can't take it anymore. And
1613
01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:24.199
that's an Otis Is like, all right, man, He's like,
1614
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:26.720
you know, you win. Let's just get back in the hole.
1615
01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:28.920
We'll bury the we'll bury the body, and then we'll
1616
01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:31.239
go see the police. So is Skeeter's down there digging,
1617
01:16:31.319 --> 01:16:34.000
that's an Otis picks up his shovel, bashes Skeeter on
1618
01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:36.960
the head, and in a beautiful little shot addition, when
1619
01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:38.800
he brings his shovel back, Skeeter's.
1620
01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:41.239
Hat is attached to the shovel. It stuck to it,
1621
01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:44.439
stuck to it. And again I know he keeps saying
1622
01:16:44.439 --> 01:16:46.079
it ghastly.
1623
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:49.119
Horror, raastly horrors. Indeed. So now we are at the
1624
01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:52.199
finale of the film. A drunken Otis is driving home
1625
01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:54.920
and he is weaving all over the road. He's enjoyed
1626
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:57.119
his booze in his little mail car. But then as
1627
01:16:57.119 --> 01:16:58.960
he approaches one section of the road, we see that
1628
01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:01.279
Mary Lee is just alone in the road.
1629
01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:05.079
Just standing there as his headlights are making her glow.
1630
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:08.359
Yeah, so still suspecting her. He goes after her with
1631
01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:10.319
his car. He ends up crashing his car, so he
1632
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:12.039
gets out. He chases her on foot, and now we
1633
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:14.039
have a chase in a pumpkin patch.
1634
01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:18.600
Which what a finale. Yeah, so he's chasing after this
1635
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:23.279
little girl through the pumpkin patch. Again. We've got the
1636
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:27.159
corn stalks, we've got the blue light, we've got the wind,
1637
01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:28.920
we've got the pumpkins.
1638
01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:30.079
The Fury soundtrack.
1639
01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:35.760
Yeah, it's so halloweeny, it's so fall it's everything you
1640
01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:39.239
could ever want. Yeah, from this kind of movie. And
1641
01:17:39.279 --> 01:17:42.399
it's from nineteen eighty one TV film, which is just
1642
01:17:42.439 --> 01:17:45.880
blows my mind. Do they that they check all these boxes?
1643
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:48.439
And again, time has been very kind to this movie.
1644
01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:51.039
It already I think it looked old when it came out,
1645
01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:55.880
so it looks extra old now. But I mean he's
1646
01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:01.119
chasing her down classic chase scene. And as he's doing this,
1647
01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:05.079
we're still left wondering what's going on.
1648
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:05.800
What's going on?
1649
01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:08.800
Is it a ghost or is there a person doing it?
1650
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:11.279
Or what? What is what is going on?
1651
01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:14.039
So she is hiding near a is it is a
1652
01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:15.760
combine or a plow because they.
1653
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:18.680
I'm pretty sure I think that's a combine.
1654
01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:19.840
So she's hiding in a combine.
1655
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:24.000
It has the shreddy shredding. Yeah, I am from the city.
1656
01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:26.199
It has the shreddy.
1657
01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:29.840
So that is when she's hiding in the in the
1658
01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:31.760
scoop of it, and that's when he finds her. He's
1659
01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:33.520
he's right on top of her, and all of a sudden,
1660
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:34.880
the combine comes to life.
1661
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:37.039
Yes, the lights click on, the.
1662
01:18:37.079 --> 01:18:40.079
Motor cooks on, and that's when he's like, Sam, is
1663
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.760
that you you know I wasn't doing anything, like you know,
1664
01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:44.479
we could come on out, we can talk about this.
1665
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:47.439
The combine starts inching towards him and inching towards him,
1666
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:49.680
and now it's just fucking chasing him through the patch.
1667
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:52.079
And it's important to remember Otis at this point has
1668
01:18:52.119 --> 01:18:56.199
gone totally mad, insane. He killed his friend, not only
1669
01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:58.159
so that he wouldn't go to the police, but also
1670
01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:01.600
out of sheer fear that made it's him, yeah, doing this.
1671
01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:05.119
So he is running this combines right behind him, and
1672
01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:09.399
then he runs right into the scarecrow, except the scarecrow
1673
01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:12.399
is now clutching the pitchfork out out front of it,
1674
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.159
like holding it directly out. Oh yeah, And he runs
1675
01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:17.560
right into it, his gut runs right into it. We
1676
01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:19.520
see blood on his mouth, we see blood, and he
1677
01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:22.000
just sinks down and dies right there.
1678
01:19:22.039 --> 01:19:25.239
And it's the bloodiest the film's been since the shooting earlier.
1679
01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:25.560
Yeah.
1680
01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:28.680
Yeah, so that's when the machine shuts down. We see
1681
01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:30.560
Mary Lee is still hiding in the pumpkin patch and
1682
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:33.960
something starts approaching her, and that's when we see the Scarecrow,
1683
01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:38.560
now moving completely, hand her a flower over and she says,
1684
01:19:38.640 --> 01:19:41.800
thank you, Bubba. Tomorrow, I'll teach you a new game.
1685
01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:44.439
Has anyone ever showed you the chasing game? It's just
1686
01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:48.359
like tag. And that is the end of nineteen eighty
1687
01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:50.239
one's Dark Eyed of the Scare.
1688
01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:53.600
Well, And the eeriest part of that ending is she
1689
01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:56.399
keeps talking for a little bit, like she's talking to
1690
01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:57.199
her friend Bubba.
1691
01:19:57.359 --> 01:19:57.760
Yeah.
1692
01:19:57.800 --> 01:20:00.760
As the music builds up, swell the trail and the
1693
01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:07.800
and the credits go, and what a blood chilling ending.
1694
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:10.439
The freeze frame on the flower that he's handing to her,
1695
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:12.399
because that's the frees frame. Is their hands touching?
1696
01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:17.159
Yeah, oh god, so, and it's gloved hand. It suggests
1697
01:20:17.239 --> 01:20:20.399
that very likely this is Bubba's ghost. Yeah, but there's
1698
01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:24.560
still a possibility that it could be someone pretending to
1699
01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:26.079
be the Scarecrow.
1700
01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:28.960
I kind of interpreted it as Mary Lee was the
1701
01:20:29.159 --> 01:20:32.319
was the one behind it, because that was a game
1702
01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:32.960
she was playing.
1703
01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:36.800
She Oh, but you mean that she got Bubba's ghost
1704
01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:37.319
to kill them?
1705
01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:37.760
Oh?
1706
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:39.359
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a fair I think that's
1707
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:40.880
a fair assessment. Yeah. For a second, I thought you
1708
01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:42.439
were like, it's all in her head, she was doing
1709
01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:42.920
all the killing.
1710
01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:43.239
No.
1711
01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:45.000
No, she faked getting mulled by that dog.
1712
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:48.520
So shit. She was playing four D chess when we
1713
01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:49.920
were playing two D checkers.
1714
01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:52.319
So would you would you like to know some fun
1715
01:20:52.359 --> 01:20:53.119
things about the film?
1716
01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:55.119
No, Dave, you just blew my mind. You can't just
1717
01:20:55.520 --> 01:20:59.520
walk past that and and leave me in the dust. Geez,
1718
01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:03.000
that's what you just did. No, I would love to
1719
01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:05.279
know some stuff about Dark Knight of the Scarecrow.
1720
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:08.439
So it was filmed in Peru, California, shot in seventeen days,
1721
01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:11.319
originally supposed to Oh what did I say?
1722
01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:12.239
You said Peru?
1723
01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:13.039
Is it Peru?
1724
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:14.199
Piru?
1725
01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:14.800
Piru?
1726
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:18.399
How many times have you watched Silent Night Deadly Night three?
1727
01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:19.279
My apologies?
1728
01:21:19.319 --> 01:21:21.319
No, okay, So for those who don't understand, I'm not
1729
01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:23.159
actually no, I am tied and day fuck it.
1730
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:25.520
Yeah, but we have seen something I Deadly like three
1731
01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:26.479
times Together.
1732
01:21:26.199 --> 01:21:28.920
Part three three. Yeah, yeah, no, No, there's an entire
1733
01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:32.239
joke in silent I Deadly three where she says I'm
1734
01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:34.920
going to Piru and he says You're going to Peru
1735
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:37.720
and she says, no, Piru in the valley. Yeah, my
1736
01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:42.119
grandma has an orange orchard. So yeah, Piru makes perfect sense.
1737
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:43.079
That's why they'd film it.
1738
01:21:43.119 --> 01:21:45.520
Shot in seventeen days. Originally supposed to be eighteen, but
1739
01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:46.680
a fire cost them a day.
1740
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:50.720
Wow, seventeen days for that kind of movie, that's actually
1741
01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:52.399
a very efficient shooting schedule.
1742
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:55.800
Yeah. It was premiered on CBS on October twenty fourth
1743
01:21:55.800 --> 01:21:58.920
of nineteen eighty one. All nocturnal shots were shot at night.
1744
01:21:59.600 --> 01:22:00.880
I mean it looked like it.
1745
01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:01.239
Yeah.
1746
01:22:01.279 --> 01:22:01.520
Great.
1747
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:04.399
Screenwriter J. D. Figelson went to Texas and recorded the
1748
01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:06.239
sounds of the cicadas so they could be used in
1749
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:07.000
the film.
1750
01:22:07.560 --> 01:22:08.840
A Little Extra Something.
1751
01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:12.199
Yes. Originally conceived as a theatrical film, it went directly
1752
01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:15.600
to television instead, premiering on CBS just before Halloween in
1753
01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:16.079
eighty one.
1754
01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:19.720
Hmmm, I wonder does that mean they actually made the
1755
01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:21.880
film first and then sold it to TV.
1756
01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:22.920
I mean that might be it.
1757
01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:26.119
Yeah, I mean that that could be just usually that
1758
01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:28.399
doesn't happen back then, but it could happen.
1759
01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:33.079
Figelson said the name otis otis P. Hazel rig On
1760
01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:35.760
the sign, or saw the name otis P. Hazelry On
1761
01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:37.239
a sign and liked it so much that he used
1762
01:22:37.239 --> 01:22:38.520
the name for the film's main character.
1763
01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:41.239
Okay, I mean that that's good as getting one from
1764
01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:41.720
a phone book.
1765
01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:44.039
Okay. Charles Dirting did most of his own sons. In
1766
01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:46.239
the film's climbactive chase scene when he was running away
1767
01:22:46.239 --> 01:22:48.119
from the tractor, a double can be seen in a
1768
01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:49.119
few shots of darker hair.
1769
01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:50.840
Yes, you can, sen Yeah, there's a part where he
1770
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:53.840
jumps on the guy in the cemetery.
1771
01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:56.600
Yeah, and it's clearly a stuch.
1772
01:22:56.600 --> 01:22:57.880
I mean, all of a sudden, it's a guy with
1773
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:02.199
way darker, bigger hair, who is easily a one hundred
1774
01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:04.479
pounds thinner. Yeah, it's very apparent.
1775
01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:07.439
Hazel Rigg is never seen wearing anything but his postal
1776
01:23:07.439 --> 01:23:09.239
service uniform throughout the entire film.
1777
01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:10.479
Yeah, that's true.
1778
01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:13.039
Struther Martin was originally scheduled to play the part of
1779
01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:15.159
Otis C. Hazelrigg, but passed away before the film could
1780
01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:17.439
be made. However, a few lines of the script suggested
1781
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:19.720
by Martin remained in the final film, but spoken by Derning,
1782
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:22.960
who eventually played the part. As early or as of
1783
01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:25.680
early twenty twenty one, Tanya Crow and Robert f Lyons
1784
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:27.199
are the only two main actors from the film and
1785
01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:30.000
still alive, which is Mary Lee and Skeeter.
1786
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:32.159
Oh that makes sense. They were two of the youngest
1787
01:23:32.159 --> 01:23:33.399
people on the film.
1788
01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:35.640
Although it was never mentioned in the film, Philby's first
1789
01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:37.680
name was revealed to be George in the film's production
1790
01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:40.600
notes in the film's name Bubba's real in the film,
1791
01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:43.199
Bubba's real name is Charles Elliott Ritter, which we see
1792
01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:43.840
on the tombstone.
1793
01:23:43.960 --> 01:23:44.960
Yeah, that makes sense.
1794
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:47.479
Early in the film, Robert f Lyons hurts his hands
1795
01:23:47.479 --> 01:23:50.239
spinning around in pain. A scene like this occurs early
1796
01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:52.039
in The Wizard of Oz when Ray Bulger hurts his
1797
01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:54.600
own hands spinning around in a very similar way. In
1798
01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:57.039
this scene, he is playing the character Hunk before reappearing
1799
01:23:57.079 --> 01:23:58.279
in the film as the scarecrow.
1800
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:01.119
Oh that's clever.
1801
01:24:02.119 --> 01:24:04.039
Three of the guns seen the film did not work.
1802
01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:05.359
When the posse shoots Bubba to.
1803
01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:08.079
Death fair enough.
1804
01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:11.399
An interesting coincidence. Lane Smith's character in the first of
1805
01:24:11.439 --> 01:24:13.039
the four men to die in the film, and in
1806
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:14.680
real life, Lane Smith was the first of the four
1807
01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:16.680
actors portrayed the vigilantes to pass as well.
1808
01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:19.039
Well, that's just dark, jeez. JD.
1809
01:24:19.159 --> 01:24:21.920
Vigelson, screenwriter as the voice of the man who radio's
1810
01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:26.520
harless on the CBE radio just after the shooting of Bubba.
1811
01:24:25.960 --> 01:24:28.119
A little hitchcocky thing a little bit.
1812
01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:30.439
So what are your final thoughts on Dark Knight of
1813
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:30.960
the Scarecrow.
1814
01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:37.479
Oh my god, fuck you. It's a quintessential horror film,
1815
01:24:37.479 --> 01:24:41.439
a quintessential Halloween time film, a quintessential television movie.
1816
01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:42.560
Yeah.
1817
01:24:42.119 --> 01:24:46.880
It to me, it's historically valuable. It's not just interesting
1818
01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:51.000
or fun or scary. It's a time capsule of a
1819
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:57.000
very interesting time in television in film. I mean this
1820
01:24:57.079 --> 01:24:59.479
movie came out right when the slasher boom was about
1821
01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:00.680
to start.
1822
01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:02.039
Pretty crazy.
1823
01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:04.880
It's nuts. I mean, Halloween had already come out and
1824
01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:07.359
was a hit. The next year, Friday the thirteenth was
1825
01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:09.359
going to become a hit. Two years after that, Nimer
1826
01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:11.039
and Elm Street was going to become a hit as well.
1827
01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:14.960
So it's kind of like looking at the stuff that
1828
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:18.159
happened in the nineties pre Scream, how it's very different
1829
01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:21.479
from what ended up becoming the big thing. And I
1830
01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:23.399
love that about this movie. I love that this is
1831
01:25:23.399 --> 01:25:28.760
a very different, old fashioned in its way horror film.
1832
01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:32.760
I think that, I mean, if you're if you consider
1833
01:25:32.760 --> 01:25:35.520
yourself a movie lover, it's an own it. I really
1834
01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:37.560
do think that. I think that there is that you
1835
01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:40.640
will never regret owning this little TV movie that'll creep
1836
01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:43.239
you out every time you watch it. I see no
1837
01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:46.199
reason not to own it, but for the love of God,
1838
01:25:46.439 --> 01:25:47.880
watch it however you can.
1839
01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:49.680
Yeah. No, it's a buy it for me as well,
1840
01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:52.960
simply from the fact of the restoration. The restoration looks
1841
01:25:53.159 --> 01:25:53.800
so fucking good.
1842
01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:55.920
Yeah, it's amazing, and I just ordered the four K
1843
01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:57.680
so I'm excited to watch.
1844
01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:03.000
It on the disc. Is great as well, seeing the performances,
1845
01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:05.680
seeing the way that the movie plays out, it's tight
1846
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:08.199
run time. All of this just makes it so much
1847
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:10.239
fun and like you said, perfect for the Halloween season.
1848
01:26:10.359 --> 01:26:12.560
So I cannot think of any other reason why you
1849
01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:13.880
wouldn't want to own this movie.
1850
01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:15.920
Yeah, I would have to agree.
1851
01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:28.239
Do you even movie will be right back. Welcome back
1852
01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:32.079
to do you even movie?
1853
01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:36.239
So, as we always liked to end the show with
1854
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:38.640
a couple of recommendations, I have two this week, the
1855
01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:42.079
first one being Strangeland from nineteen ninety eight. A detective
1856
01:26:42.119 --> 01:26:45.479
pursues a sadist, a specializing in body modification rituals who
1857
01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:47.840
lures teenagers through the Internet. And Rique asked me why
1858
01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:49.319
this one? Why I picked this one?
1859
01:26:49.399 --> 01:26:51.039
I just thought it sounded I mean, I like Strange
1860
01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:51.560
Land a lot.
1861
01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:54.680
The reason I picked this is because, not really a spoiler,
1862
01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:57.279
but there's a portion of Strange Land where a mob
1863
01:26:57.479 --> 01:26:59.840
decides to do their own mob justice and in doing
1864
01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:02.439
make the situation way worse than if they had just
1865
01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:05.359
left it alone. Just like in Dark Now the Scarecrow.
1866
01:27:05.199 --> 01:27:08.960
Uh thought for you, mob justice is neither a mob
1867
01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:12.119
nor justice discuss amongst yourselves.
1868
01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:16.680
Second recommendation nineteen eighty eight Scarecrows. Criminals hijack a plane
1869
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:19.239
enforced the pilot and his daughter to fly to Mexico. However,
1870
01:27:19.319 --> 01:27:23.520
an unexpected landing finds him as cemetery inhabited by killer Scarecrows.
1871
01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:26.039
That movie is a goddamn trip. Ye that is such
1872
01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:28.479
a good time yes, it is. Holy shit, that movie
1873
01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:28.920
is fun.
1874
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:30.199
So what's your recommendation?
1875
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:32.800
Well, I had to think long and hard. Since you
1876
01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:37.399
stole the easiest Scarecrows, I was gonna say neither the
1877
01:27:37.399 --> 01:27:42.199
Scarecrows or Scarecrow. Bro, They're not that alike actually, other
1878
01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:44.119
than there being a scarecrow. So then I decided, you
1879
01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:47.199
know what, I'm gonna go with something else that is
1880
01:27:47.319 --> 01:27:51.279
very different but gives me a very similar vibe.
1881
01:27:52.960 --> 01:27:54.640
You want to guess Pumpkinhead.
1882
01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:57.880
Yeah, Pumpkinhead. Didn't you looked at my screen? Didn't? No? No,
1883
01:27:58.039 --> 01:27:58.680
but it's on there.
1884
01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:00.359
The more I thought about it, though, I was when
1885
01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:02.199
you said similar vibe, I'm just like, oh wait a minute,
1886
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:05.000
Like a vengeance? Yeah, no, that would absolutely make sense.
1887
01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:09.439
Nineteen eighty eight's Pumpkinhead, directed by special effects legend Stan Winston,
1888
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:12.720
starring Lance Hendrickson. Yeah. If you haven't seen this movie,
1889
01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:16.039
that's bizarre to me. It's a phenomenal movie. It's all
1890
01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:21.359
about vengeance from beyond the grave. Yeah, Southern Fried vengeance,
1891
01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:24.960
basically the IMDb descriptions. After a tragic accident, a man
1892
01:28:25.079 --> 01:28:28.359
conjures up a towering, vengeful demon called Pumpkinhead to destroy
1893
01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:32.239
a group of unsuspecting teenagers. But it's a film about
1894
01:28:32.479 --> 01:28:36.560
the folly of vengeance, how there is no real revenge.
1895
01:28:36.600 --> 01:28:40.479
It's definitely the story of the man who seeks vengeance
1896
01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:41.600
should dig two grapes.
1897
01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:42.079
Grapes.
1898
01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:45.520
It's a great one and it has atmosphere to spare ye,
1899
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:47.680
lots of that creepy at night time stuff. It's a
1900
01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:50.359
much bigger budget movie, yeah, than Dark Knight of the
1901
01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:54.960
Scarecrow or Scarecrows or Strange Land. It's a bigger film, yeah,
1902
01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:58.880
But it has a great atmosphere. It's not entirely halloweeny,
1903
01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:01.239
but damned if it wouldn't you in the mood for Halloween.
1904
01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:04.159
It absolutely will, and the special effects are jaw dropping,
1905
01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:06.039
the monsters incredibly rememborable.
1906
01:29:06.119 --> 01:29:08.319
If the opening of that movie alone does not get
1907
01:29:08.359 --> 01:29:10.000
you in the mood for Halloween, I don't know what.
1908
01:29:10.079 --> 01:29:12.319
Will you really love children dying? Don't you?
1909
01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:14.520
No? No, no, I'm talk about the open credits, like the
1910
01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:16.520
flames and everything. But I mean, I'm not Keith.
1911
01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:18.880
Just making you feel bad, but no, So I'm going
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to say Pumpkinhead from nineteen eighty eight definitely worth a
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watch very good would be a good pairing.
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And if you like Pumpkinhead, then you should check out
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Pumpkinhead two. And then that's the only sequels that exist
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after that.
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That's harsh considering our very own Dayton Native produced the
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other sequels.
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I haven't seen Blood Wings in a good bit. Ashes
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to Ashes I caught on Pluto.
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Blood Wings is part two.
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Yeah, oh, Blowings is part two. No Ashes to Ashes
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is part three. I can't remember the other subtitles, but
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I watched either part three or part four a while
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back on Pluto and it did not hold up.
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They're a little rough. I mean that was during the
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the right before the big sci fi original movie boom
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of the monster movies that were really successful. Yeah, but
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I love Pumpkinhead two. I've always had a soft spot
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for Pumpkinhead two. And it's oddly Stephen kingy yess to it.
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It's also really heartbreaking.
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Oh yeah, it's so sad. Yeah, it's incredibly.
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Said Pumpkinhead pumpkinead two cannot recommend either of those. Enough
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good recommendation on that, Well, thanks Pal, You're welcome. God,
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would you like to know what we're talking about next week?
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Absolutely not.
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Well, too bad, because we were unfortunately reaching the end
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of our Halloween horror month.
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Yes it's true at our weekly spooky combo shows.
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That is true. But we are going out with a bang,
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because we are going out with a little film from
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two thousand and four that I know you and I
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share a lot of admiration for. Yes, yes, Satan's Little
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Helper from two thousand and four, directed by is it
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Jeff Lieber? Jeff Lieberman Leberman? Yeah?
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Thank yes, Uh no, this one is one I'm excited
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to revisit because last year we were blessed with a
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Blu Ray, beautiful Blu Ray. And I want to say,
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and this, I am not often wrong ever no about
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about this kind of thing. But when they announced a
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Blu Ray, I was like, who cares? This movie was
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shot on video in two thousand and four, it's not
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going to It's because there's this big thing right now
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about putting standard definition movies on Blu Ray, and I
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just don't. I mean, I guess it's because because people
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like the packaging and they're going to pay for it.
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We'll see how the Murder Party Blue looks. But like,
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I don't love that, Yeah, I get a little frustrated sometimes.
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But then I read an interview about the Blu Ray
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and found out that Jeff Lieberman shot Satan's Little Helper
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on the Sina Alta, the Sony Sina Alta, the camera
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they shot Star Wars episode one on, and supposedly, he claims,
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I don't know if this is true, he claims literally
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the camera that they shot Star Wars episode one on.
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Oh Wow, that they because it had to be you
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couldn't rent it where he was. They had to fly
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it in from Los Angeles. So the film was shot
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in HD right at the beginning of HD existing, and
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therefore the Blu Ray would be an upgrade.
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Yeah.
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That made me insanely excited to get my copy.
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Absolutely, and I watched it.
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I thought it looked pretty good. Yeah, but I'm excited
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to revisit it, if just to enjoy the definition. Yes,
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So I'm really looking forward to revisiting that. And that's
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one that I found just by literally looking up Halloween
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horror films.
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The first time I ever saw it was on Netflix,
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because I think I texted you about it because I
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think I had asked you if like you had seen it,
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and you were just like dude, watch it.
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Yeah, I was like, watch it right the second Yeah, yeah, No,
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it's it's a phenomenally fun o depraved. Depraved is the
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01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:35.960
perfect word because it's fun and mean spirited at the
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same time. Yeah. And I just can't, like, I need
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to listen to the commentary track on that, because I
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can't even imagine how you would write something so fucking
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mean and weird and weird. And it's one of the
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few films that is this meme. But I respect it
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because it's thought out really well.
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And it has blasphemy and how and how do we
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have any emails? By the way, no, no.
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One loves us. I'll double check one last time. Well
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I did check a few times during the show, just
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in case we got somebody to swoop in. If you
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want to send us an email, we'd love to hear
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from you. You can contact us at do you even
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movie pod at gmail dot com or go to dooevenmovie
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dot com and write us a message through there nothing
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not a zilch, Although I mean, we did get like
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a million requests for the Christmas season, which we're gonna
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fill as many of them as we can, might be
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able to fill all of them. So far, but we
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love to get requests. November is pretty much caput. Yeah,
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we've got, We've got because we have spent a very
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long time finding some of the best and most unexpected
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Thanksgiving films of all time. And then December we've we've
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pretty much got sorted out. But January will get very interesting.
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And I will go ahead and spoil right now. We
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are not going to be covering Thanksgiving or ThanksKilling.
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Oh for a second, I was like, Thanksgiving, Oh, you
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mean the movie thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, those are
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too obvious and actually but yeah, I mean I think
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we only covering one horror film.
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I think, so yeah for thanks for this, I think yeah,
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And if you're a horror fan of Thanksgiving.
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You already know what it is. I mean you either
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you know what it is and you know what it isn't,
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which is Cranberry.
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Sorry.
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So on that note, my friends, thank you so much
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for joining us on Do You Even Movie. Make sure
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to check us out at dooevenmovie dot com for all
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the information in the show notes. We have social media
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and blah blah blah. Yes, if you're listening to this
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as a podcast, please make sure that you have subscribed
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leave a like, leave a comment. We love to hear
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from you guys about the movies you like. And apparently
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after doing Scary Movie, we got a comment for somebody
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who said his comment was something along the lines of
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the algorithm has blessed me with a cult horror podcast
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I didn't know about. So hopefully you're enjoying and then
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not hugely disappointed when you realize we cover a lot
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of movies, a lot of movies. We do do a
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decent amount of horror. So and I said, dude, So anyway,
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until next time, you guys, stay safe out there. Hopefully
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I'm going to go to another goddamn haunt or two.
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I'm going to try goddamn it. So until next time, guys,
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we will see you next Tuesday.
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Bubba didn't do it.
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Bubba did not do it. That needs to be a
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bumper sticker.
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