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Do You Even Movie? | Blue Ruin (2013) The Brutality of Revenge
Blue Ruin (2013) is the focus of this Do You Even Movie? discussion, with Henrique Couto and David Denoyer exploring the film’s story, cast, production, and horror legacy.
That’s what bullets do.”
This week, Henrique and David take a violent detour into one of the most realistic revenge thrillers ever put to film—Blue Ruin (2013). When a quiet drifter returns to his childhood home seeking vengeance, his actions spiral into a brutal fight to protect his estranged family. But what makes this film’s take on revenge so raw and unforgettable?
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I apologize for the mystery. You're not any trouble. I
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just thought you should be somewhere safe when you found
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out everything's fine. You'll be fine.
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Two, three, four.
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It's an awful thing he did to them. Three if
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I don't mean to scare you, I'm just gonna hold
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you here for a little.
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While and like you breathed.
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In a world where podcasts reign supreme. Two friends dare
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to ask?
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Do you even?
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Movie?
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Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David Denier.
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Spoiler alert, So David, so, hen, how's the Lonely Hearts Club?
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Lonely and heartful? What does that mean?
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I don't even know.
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That's good.
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That's good.
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It's best that it be ambiguous.
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Ambiguous are empty at this point?
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Well, that got fucking dark. Yeah you're welcome. Yeah, great job, great,
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good way to go with the movie Tonight though, well,
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I mean Tonight's movie is a story about true love
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and where it'll take you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, that's it. I mean, it is, it is,
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so it is. But yeah, but before we talk about that, geez,
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we just saw love hurts, Yes, we did, which you know,
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I mean, we're recording this right before actual Valentine's Day. Yeah,
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and uh yeah, there were a lot of couples at
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the theater in line there was, and none of them
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for Companion. It looked like, yeah, they were all going
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to Companion. Yeah, a lot of really young folks.
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Which I think honestly that I think we've seen every
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single Valentine's Day available in theaters now because we've seen Companion,
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Hard Eyes and Love Hurts.
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Yeah. I think you're right. Yeah, yeah. So as far
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as Love Hurts goes action comedy, absolutely in theory, romance
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is somewhat. Yes.
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Uh I. My biggest issue with Love Hurts was it
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the title. The title made sense, but the romance aspect
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of it did not. It didn't hit I would say,
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oh yeah, I didn't think.
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So, Oh hateful Dave.
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You've said the same thing in the car, what are
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you talk about?
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Well, no, my problem with Love Hurts and I hate
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being harsh, but the whole film came off as really
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really half baked, unbalanced. Well I mean totally exactly, like
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what happens when something's half baked, Like some of it's
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all mushy and still whatever, and then the other parts
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splengy and nice. Yeah, it didn't seem like it was
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very comfortable being a comedy or an action movie and
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infinitely uncomfortable being a romance story. Entirely zero chemistry between
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the lead and his romantic interest, although it's not like
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they had a chance. They were like the room together
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like three times. And yeah, there's not a lot going
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on there.
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I mean, it's basically that the classic story of you
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don't know who you're messing with again, but at the
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same time, like it's it's a story we've seen a
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thousand times before.
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Well, but but this version is a little different. Like
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he's not hiding because he's a former hit man. Yeah,
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but he's not like hiding from the people he used
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to work with. They know that he's out. Yeah, they
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let him, they leave or whatever his life. Yeah, but uh,
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he gets dragged back in because the woman he loves
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was he was ordered to kill her. Yeah, and although
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I guess they weren't.
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Dating, they weren't dating. There was just ever in love
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with really any hints of romance. It was basically that
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he let her go spoiler alert, he let her go.
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Oh that's like we already we know that pretty much
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immediately he let her go.
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I mean, you really can't spoil the movie except for
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like the one death that actually affected us.
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it being kind of half baked, Like it's kind of
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like you ever listen to interviews where Jackie Chan says,
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like what movies he says no to? It's very much
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the kind of movie Jackie Chan would say no to. Yeah,
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Jackie Chan often says like, I don't want movies that
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are overly violent. I don't want movies that are overly
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you know, like they're overly violent, too much murder or whatever,
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too much base.
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I think he says, for the most part, like murder
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for murder's sake, like there's no there, like it's just
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basically just up a body count.
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for the most part, if anybody dies, it's a big
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deal in a Jackie Chan movie. Aside from like that
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movie where he played the villain or whatever, those are
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very different. We're talking for The Foreigner, which I liked
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The Foreigner. It was good, it was dark, it was
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cool seeing him play a villain, but he was a
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but he was also like a for lack of a
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better term of righteous villain. Yeah, he had been horribly wronged.
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His daughter I believe had been killed. Yeah, and he
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was basically on a war path for vengeance. Yeah. That
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was self destructive on purpose. Yeah, and he knew it.
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And it's not a It wasn't a surprise to the audience.
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No, And it really wasn't an action film either. Had
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action sequences.
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Yeah no, no, I mean it has a few stunt scenes there.
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But with Love hurts. I wanted to like it a ton,
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but it felt like the components they had were sparks.
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They were just like, we want what's his name of
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the actor. They wanted him to star in an action movie,
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and they wanted him to be a badass. And then
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and they got a well known stunt fight coordinator to
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be the director for his feature film debut, guy by
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the name of Jonathan I don't know. But so you
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have Ti Kwang and he's this kind of dorky average guy,
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which he's really great at playing. I mean, I mean,
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I mean he this is like the this is the
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worst thing we're gonna get from everything everywhere, all at
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once being a hit. Yeah, and I mean that with
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love because everything everywhere at once was amazing, and it
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showed what an incredible actor he was. It showed how
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endearing he could be and what rain she could have.
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But then you watch love Hurts, and I guess the
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biggest problem, if I had to really dig into my psyche,
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would be the love interest is very unlikable because the
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whole concept is that she was allowed to not get assassinated,
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and then what does she do? She comes back a
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while later and shows up in his life. Is like,
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I can't keep hiding and you shouldn't hide from your
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brother either, money and she wants to money. Although there's
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more to it, well kind of, but but what ends
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up happening is she shows up in his life and
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literally starts, and it starts just ruining people's lives unrelated.
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There's an immense amount of very being degrees of collateral damage.
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Some are we're very out of place in a comedy.
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It was one of those movies where you you have
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amazing action sequences. I mean, some of those fights are
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are incredible and insanely brutal, but then your murder count
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for like actual like main characters is like two.
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Yeah, and only the characters that are nice yeah, like
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only the characters that literally did nothing.
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Our villain spoilers technically doesn't get murdered on screen at least.
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Yeah. Well, from the way the first fight scene, when
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I assumed just nobody was gonna get murdered, that was
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gonna be one of those, which is very Jackie Chan
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asked that, like, you just don't kill anybody. But then
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so then this whole thing where his love interest is
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like I want the real you to come out or whatever,
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and then she's so happy when he starts.
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Like becoming vicious, well because he.
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Kills like Henchman, yeah toward the end, and she's like
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so happy, and I'm all thinking, is like I thought
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that our whole his whole character development was that that
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was bad. Yeah, and he hated that, but now it's like,
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I'm so glad you're back, Like that's who I needed,
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the vicious murderer. She Yeah, she was, cause she came
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off really unlikable because all she did was show up
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at wreck everything.
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No, I agree. I think my biggest issue with it
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was it just it didn't feel like it really ever
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gave us anything that we didn't get in like the
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first ten minutes.
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Well, and if they wanted to to get that across
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in a way that was a little bit more entertaining. Yeah,
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they could have had it be one sided, like he's
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really in love with her and she's callous. That could
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have been a good like growth moment if it was like,
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you know, he realizes, like you don't care about me
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very much, do you? But no, it's supposed to be
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a love story. They're supposed to actually be in love. Yeah,
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And all I could think the whole movie was, man,
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his life was so great. He like I remember about
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halfway through the film when is because his brother turns
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out his brother again not a big spoiler. His brother
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is the person who's like, uh running yeah, knuckles, he's
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running the organization he used to work at. Once you
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start to see what's going on and all this, my
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first thought was, really, like, man, this like our main character.
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He would have been. He would have had such a good
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life if you just murdered that woman probably and apparently
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he had killed dozens before as a hitman. Well.
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That was the thing too, was you had so many
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different main villains to stack up to your actual top dog,
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and it was just and I didn't have an issue
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with that in regards of just like learning who those
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people were. But it was just like they amounted to nothing.
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They were just they were just names for.
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The most part. I mean we had a few that
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got some development, but that.
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Everybody was against everybody, like.
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Yeah, it wasn't a terrible movie. Yeah it was a
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fun time.
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Eighty eighty two eighty three minutes. You mean you're you're
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in and out for one.
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Yeah, but I could, I could definitely understand why audiences
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were not coming to see Love Hurts in the theater.
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They were there to see companions like you.
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And I said, it's a movie where you can definitely
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tell studio involvement heavily, because I don't think an eighty
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three minute movie was the original idea.
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I mean, have been Mitos in.
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Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back
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to Do You Even?
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Movie.
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The other thing was that there was a lot of
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moments that were predicated by voiceover, which made me feel
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like maybe the movie was a big mess and they
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were trying to make it make sense.
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Yeah, and not just one voiceover, multiple character voiceovers.
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It was just him and the woman.
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There was Knuckles had a couple two.
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Oh okay, no, no, you're right right, he did. Yeah,
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but they were kind of he was like in a
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room with somebody. It didn't feel quite as like as
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opposed to like the leading man and the leading lady
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were like laying in bed, and it's just kind of
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it felt more like a voice over as opposed to
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like a monologue.
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Genuinely, I would have probably probably enjoyed it just a
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little bit more if the first ten minutes would have
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been him telling the story that we kind of saw
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spread throughout the movie. I think if we would have
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been like, you know, I like I used to do
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this blah blah blah blah, and like go through all
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his run ins and everything like that, and then it's
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just like, but now I live this quiet life.
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It wasn't like those other you don't know you're messing
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get out. Yeah, Like there was never a moment when
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somebody or like or like tackled somebody and like or
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already that we talked about, we're not gonna spoil. But
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the other one is the the the realtor dude.
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