Cutting Deep Into Horror | The Host (2006)

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Well, I'm glad you could come
back to the show. Rachel. I'm

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glad to be here. And you're
so professional sounding. You put on your

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customer service voice a little bit when
you're podcasting. You notice that just a

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little bit, just a smidgeon.
Yeah, but no, I wanted to

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make sure that it was comfy and
cozy in here, so I have the

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air conditioning properly venting for the first
time ever in the studio. It's actually

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nice, reasonably cool in here.
I wanted to make sure that we were,

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you know, cozy, the chairs, You've got a new seat to

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sit on, We've got ice cold
beverages. Because I want to be the

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perfect the host, which is why
there is a giant monster right above your

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head, right up there. Oh
god, I didn't notice it at first.

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Yeah, that's how it works.
Yeah, otherwise people would run,

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Oh god, how many limbs does
it have? You know, that's a

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good question I'll ask and circle back
around. This podcast is about why horror

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scares us, what deep, dark, secret scary cinema shines a light on.

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The discussions are frank and involve conversations
about abuse, trauma, and mental

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health. There are awesome spoilers,
so keep that in mind too. Now,

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sharpen your machetes and straight razors,
because this is cutting deep into horror.

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Welcome back to cutting deep into horror, my friends. I am your

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host, Enrique Kuto, here with
my co host rachel Or Dolphy. Oh

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she said her name herself. Okay, good, that way, I didn't

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have to say it wrong. I'd
like to feel like a big shot,

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right right, Well, I mean
you're you're becoming. It's upsetting. You're

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becoming a broadcast professional before my eyes. You're doing this to me. I

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learned it by watching you. Oh
now you're pulling the drug commercial dad thing

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on me. Okay, okay,
now that's fair, that's fair. Well,

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tonight we have a special movie choice. Although all the movies are special

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because they are chosen very specifically,
because I want to make it clear,

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this isn't a movie review show.
This is a movie appreciation show for very

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specific films that are worth cutting deep
into. For lack of a better term,

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or actually, well, I mean, after a lot of thought,

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that was the best possible for the
exactly that term. Yeah. So but

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this one is from two thousand and
six. The host and you want to

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give us a little rundown on the
Host. I had not seen this movie.

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This was your idea to bring to
us. Well, And that's what

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was so exciting about this episode in
particular, is this this was the first

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movie that I saw it way before
you did. Well, I saw it

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like three days ago, so yes, and I saw this in two thousand

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and seven, like shortly after it
came uh you know, it was released

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on DVD, and so it was
a rising when you know, we'd been

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talking and I had mentioned The Host
and you said you hadn't seen it,

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and I was like, oh my
god, really, like this is the

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perfect movie for you. I don't
understand how you've never seen this. I

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mean, I can tell you that
I was very aware of the film's existence

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because I worked in my first job
ever in show business was in marketing at

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a distribution company and we would travel
the country to expose and conventions and not

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just in Canada too, and we
almost went to Edinburgh once but but then

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we didn't get accepted to the Film
Festival or whatever it was. But anyway,

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it's fine. Those people get what
they deserve. But but no,

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this film The Host, which came
out in two thousand and seven, made

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in Korea. You've skipped all of
the pertinent details, so I'll fill those

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in. It was made in Korea, but when it was when it was

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made and got picked up for American
distribution, it was picked up by Magnet

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Entertainment, a subsidy area of Magnolia
Home Entertainment, which is at the time,

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I believe in may Stobe was partially
owned by Mark Cuban. It was

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his his like indie movie label.
They put out a lot of films I

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like, like Murder Party. That's
they did Murder Party, which is a

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phenomenally fun movie. And the Host
was like their big release that end Jesus

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Camp, the documentary about about Jesus
Camp. Oh yeah, I mean,

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no describe it. But those were
their two big ones. So I traveling

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the country eleven twelve times a year, going to conventions and stuff. I

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would see posters for the Host everywhere
constantly, but I never got well,

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but it wasn't available yet. It
was it was this was them getting the

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word out to go see it theatrically
and then to buy the DVD, which

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I just never got around to doing. And knowing me because I was I

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mean we're talking. I was nineteen
years old at the time, so I

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probably was like would like get ready
to rent it at Blockbuster and then be

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like, oh, it's got it's
got subtitles. Well, it took me

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a while to get confident enough that
I could read subtitles and still follow the

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action. I know a lot of
people like to joke like, oh,

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well, you know, some people
are just not you know, they're too

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uncivilized. They don't want to read
close captions or at close captions, but

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it subtitles, and I get that
judgment element, But some of it comes

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down to the fact that some people
are terrified that they're not going to get

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the experience because they're too busy reading
to witness the action. And you watch

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enough movies with subtitles, and you
kind of realize that you can read really

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fast because you're not really even reading, you're just kind of recognizing like three

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or four letters and then just making
it up in your own head. And

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honestly, that's probably better for the
filmmakers too. But what they should start

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doing is just making sure that the
subtitles are just the first three or four

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letters and then save money on the
subtitling. I mean, there are worse

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decisions I've heard of making, so
but but yeah, so anyway, but

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that was my experience. I saw
the poster a billion times, just again

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and again and again and again and
again, and I remember being prone to

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that. In Jesus Camp, I
saw that that poster again and again and

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again. But I actually seen Jesus
Camp because I was a very outspoken atheist

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podcaster at the time. Yes,
you kind of had to, yeah,

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research. The funny thing was the
guy who was working at Magnolia at the

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time, who I do not know
his name. He might have been an

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intern. He and I had a
hilarious exchange about Jesus Camp. That was

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not what he was hoping because he
was like, yeah, you know,

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scariest movie have is Jesus Camp.
And I was like, I don't know.

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I think that that's gonna be the
kind of movie that like, those

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kids are gonna grow up and then
they're gonna watch that and they're gonna be

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like, Wow, I don't believe
this stuff anymore. And he was like,

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oh, I don't know, and
I was like, yeah, you're

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probably right. We're just gonna go
backwards for the first time ever in human

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history, and sure enough, evangelicalism
is way way down in this country and

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it's because of stuff like that.
Yeah, and other things. But anyway,

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that's not what this show about.
The show is about the host and

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it is directed by his name was
I was, I was talking speaking of

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confidence. I'm aways afraid I'll say
his name wrong. Boo Jung who Boong

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Jong ho, who is famous,
world famous for making Parasite recently. Yeah,

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which is a phenomenal movie that I
saw when it was in the theater

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and I was blown away. Although
the title made it sound like it was

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going to be a horror movie and
it was not. I mean, no,

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no, no, it was It
was just an intense drama. Yeah.

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Well, and that's kind of what
when I when I first saw the

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Host, because like I said,
I saw it when it first came onto

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DVD because that's my Hollywood video days. So that was that was one of

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the movies that I made a point
of, like when it came out,

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I had to see it. And
what struck me as it's not so much

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a monster movie or a horror movie
per se, as much as being like

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a dark comedy and a family drama. Uh, I'm gonna have to disagree

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to some extent. Okay, Okay, I think that in order for a

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film to be a dark comedy,
it has to be consistently funny. The

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movie has great humor, yeah,
but I think it's just to break tension.

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I think the movie is a like
family drama and a monster movie.

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Yeah, yeah, I really do, and a political drama to an extent

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sort of. Yeah, but I
mean, I'm not trying to poopoo on

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your on your point, but I
wouldn't call it a dark comedy because it's

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just the point isn't to laugh.
No, that's no, You're You're very

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right, because there are several moments
in the movie that are just so absurd

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that it becomes hilarious. Oh,
the movies laugh out loud funny in some

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points, just like Parasite was.
Yeah, well, or and snow Piercer,

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which is another phenomenal movie. This
guy's made. So and so.

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All of this to say, when
you mentioned the movie and I realized that

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I had not seen it, you
know, at all, I was down

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to watch it. Yeah, and
it was available. I always like to

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try and remember to mention where it's
available. The films we're talking about in

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case you want to stop listening and
watch it and then come back. I

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was able to find it on Max
or for the former HBO Max just sitting

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there all you know, hanging out. They're all pink and naked, so

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that's a good place to watch it. You could also rent it wherever you

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like to rent movies. But h
so you said you saw this during your

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Hollywood video days, yep, okay, and you were just blown away.

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Oh, absolutely blown away. I
think because I rented it for a weekend.

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I think I watched it twice because
like the first time I was like,

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oh wow, this is so good, so like before I took it

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back, the second time was sober. But no, no, that's awesome

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and definitely would be a surprise.
Yeah, I know, we keep going

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back to like other things, but
like that's how Murder Party was. I

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rented that on a on a Friday
night at Blockbuster, and I watched it

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like two more times that weekend before
I returned it on Monday. So I

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mean every now then you discover an
incredible movie, yeah, and you're just

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blown away. And nowadays it's it's
weird, it's it's less special but more

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big because it's more common thanks to
streaming. I feel like we're used to

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finding movies that we never heard much
about and then going, wow, it's

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amazing. Back then, that was
a surprise. Yeah, you know you

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were you were like Holly, Molly, Yeah it was. It was always

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kind of a gamble. Yeah,
oh, definitely, that was my favorite

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thing. I like the gamble.
I used to joke. On Friday nights

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or on Saturday nights, I used
to go to the Blockbuster and I would

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try to pick the film with the
most unshamed shameless that's the phrase, the

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most shameless photoshopping, like you'd look
at him, go, almost none of

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this existed in reality. And that's
what I would rent. Yeah, and

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that's how you get movies worth watching
with two cheeseburgers on a Saturday night.

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Yeah, but this film is definitely
beyond a movie to watch with two cheeseburgers

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on a Saturday night. This is
a harrowing tale. So I'm gonna put

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it to you, Okay, you
want to tell us, give us a

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basic rundown of what the film's about. So what the film is about is

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about the Park family, which is
the grandpa and the oldest son, who

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has a daughter who's about twelve,
and then there's another brother and a sister,

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and they're a very dysfunctional family,
but they're a very loving family.

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And through happenstance, the little girl
gets kidnapped by this mutant monster thing out

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of the What river was that the
Han River? The Han River in South

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Korea because the film is Korean,
and of course that means it took place

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in South Korea. Yes, because
otherwise Kim Jong lun would have been the

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hero of the film, and it
would have been very different in every possible,

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very very different film and much more
scary for very different reasons. My

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god, yeah, just thinking about
it's making me uncomfortable. So the little

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girl, Shonso, gets kidnapped by
this monster, and so this this family

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that again they're very dysfunctional, but
they all clearly love each other a lot,

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and they love this little girl a
lot, so they have to.

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She's kind of a glue to family, holds the family together. Grandpa is

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the literal glue, but she's kind
of like, I don't know, I

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don't know the word, the exact
word. She's like a catalyst for a

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lot of She's kind of everyone's motivation. That's a perfect way to put I

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think catalyst means that kind of you
went to college whatever. So yeah,

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so as this family has to try
to get their get their little girl back,

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and it, like you said,
there is a little bit of a

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like a political uh undertones to it
because the way that the movie starts out

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is there's an American scientist talking to
a South Korean scientist. Were they scientists?

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I thought they were doctors? They
could be doctors. To me,

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it looked like they were doctors.
They may have been doctors, and well,

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and it doesn't it doesn't quite matter
for the movie. All you know

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is they're trained medical personality. Yeah, and and some people might recognize I

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cannot remember that actor's name, but
oh you got so excited. The white

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guy at the beginning is uh,
yeah, it's a Scott Wilson, who

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is famous for being Herschel on The
Walking Dead. And it says that he

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was a US according to Wikipedia.
So how could it be wrong that it

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refers to his role as a US
military doctor. Okay, so it is,

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so it is doctor. Well,
I mean, you know, the

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US has got plenty of bases all
over the world, well and especially in

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South Korea. Well sure, but
anyway, so the movie, the movie

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opens with these two doctors and the
American doctor is complaining about how filthy these

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bottles of vermaldehyde are, and so
he says like, okay, well I

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need you to dump all of these
down the drain, and the Korean Korean

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doctor says like this goes straight into
the Han river, and he's like,

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oh, it's fine, just you
know, just dump all these bottles.

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And it's this great reveal because it
kind of pans over and you see bottle

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after bottle of vermalde hyde. And
then as it as it goes back and

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you see more and more bottles reveal
that we're talking about, like because he

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mentions like the river's big, who
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like eighty bottles, like it's a
lot. That's a lot. It's more

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than I got on me. So
that's that's just a brilliant opening scene.

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is Joan Hoe is just masterful at
telling a story by showing and not telling,

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and this is a great example.
This movie is a great example of

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that. So after that opening scene
there's two fishermen in the Han River and

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they catch a weird looking fish and
they're sitting there talking about it, like

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wow, this well, they don't
even catch it with a hook. They

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catch it in a cup like it's
it's like a tadpole size thing, and

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they never show it to us.
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you get to just imagine what they're
talking. They say things to fuck with

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you too, like they like they
they're like, oh, this thing is

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like how many tails does have?
I don't know, you know, they're

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like sales something you never see it. I enjoyed that little theater of the

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mind kind of gig oh. I
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is supposed to be like months and
months later, so this is all going

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on over the course of you know, several years. And the next scene

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is there's a guy who's clearly going
to getting ready to commit suicide by jumping

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off a bridge, and his friends
are like running down the street to stop

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him, and he's sitting there just
kind of pontificating life in the rain and

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looking down in the Han River,
and right as his friends catch up to

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him, he says something about you
know how futile the meaning of life is

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and all that and being very melodramatic, and then he's like, do you

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see something down there in the river
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then and then that's the start of
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scenes do a really good job of
getting your curiosity going and getting your imagination

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going, but it doesn't actually tell
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because then we meet the Park family
and it's like, oh, this is

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actually a family drama. Well,
and for the record, see if this

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had been a dark comedy, before
he jumped off the bridge with his friends

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begging him not to, he would
have said, hey, how do you

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keep an idiot in suspense? And
they'd be like, I don't know,

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and then he jumped in and died. That would be the dark comedy version

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that Yeah, you're welcome, but
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the Fami, the Park family,
and we're introduced to them, and they're

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what I would call a somewhat typical
Korean family in some ways, they're they're

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the patriarch of the fa there's no
mothers. Yeah, that's something that's very

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odd and interesting. Choice in this
film is there's like no mothers do.

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They don't know if they even reference
would happened to the mother of the grandmother.

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mention what happened to the grandmother.

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They do briefly mention what happened to
Jean Sue's mom. H she just ran

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off as soon as she was born. Yeah, yeah, she ran off.

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But they don't really reference why the
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No. But but so the patriarch
of the family, Grandpa, he owns

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a like a convenient stand by the
by the river and they sell you know,

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cut rahman and and fry up little
squid thingies and you know, just

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like general you know service and we
meet. Uh, you're gonna have to

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help me with these names. Gang
Gang do? Gang Do. That's the

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father of the little guy. Yeah. And he is, without a doubt

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a slacker. Oh absolutely, He's
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Maybe not entirely but often. Yeah. And he's a lou he's sleep he

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oversleeps. He he takes things from
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There's just all these like things about
him. Yeah. Well, but what

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I love is how quickly they set
up that Ensue's she again, she's the

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motivation for the whole family, but
especially for Gangdo because I love they.

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You know, they're opening up and
he's literally sleeping at the counter. Yeah,

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and he's he's like his dad even
lifts his head up to get change

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out from under his head and then
just kind of unceremoniously like drops it and

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he doesn't wake up. But then
he hears a little girl, a little

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girl calling for her dad, and
he immediately jumps up and Kansu Jiansu.

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He's like looking for his daughter.
So you immediately get the sense that she

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is his world and she is his
everything. It's just he's he doesn't have

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his shit together, so not even
a little bit, not at all.

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back room of the store because her
aunt, the father's sister, is on

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ESPN because she's doing archery on the
Olympics. Yeah, it's like she's like

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the part of the national archery team. Yeah. And I just loved that

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scene because there's a few things because
because the daughter Hiansu had mentioned how much

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she hated the phone that she had, and you know, it was so

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old, and it was like just
worthless and it could hardly make phone calls

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anyway, and gang do like tells
her like, oh, well, I've

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been saving all this money and he
and he shows her and it's just like

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all this change that he's collected be
an old Roman cup in an old Roman

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cup. But your heart breaks because
like he's really trying. Yeah, he's

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kind of a kid himself. Yeah, and and it is heartbreaking, especially

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when you realize that, like his
sister's off being an olympian and his brother

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is a successful businessman, and then
here he is, and he's much older

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than them, probably a solid seven
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ten. He was like he's a
decent bit older. They're like young adults,

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and he's in his like early thirties. Yeah, and that plays into

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a lot coming up. Yeah,
but so yeah, and then of course

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what happens though they're cheering on their
auntie as she's on ESPN and she whiffs

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the final shot. Well, and
it's it's again, it's beautifully shown to

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you because they show that when she's
willing to make a shot, she gets

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dead center bulls eye every time.
But her problem is she will not take

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a shot unless she knows it's going
to be perfect, So she doesn't even

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let go of the arrow until after
the timer went off, so she's automatically

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she's automatically relegated to getting the bronze
medal instead of she could have gotten silver

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if she wouldn't have waited to be
perfect. And the first of many wholesome

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family moments. You think that Grandpa's
going to be mad that they're goofing off

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instead of doing anything that's important,
and he's not. He's like totally amped

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to watch what happens. Yeah,
he even makes that reference. He says

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like, oh I can't watch.
I get too nervous for her, you

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know, which is just like such
an old dad thing to do. But

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we'll talk more about what's coming very
soon outside of the what's the river name

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again, the Han River, But
first we have to go to this quick

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And now that are are Auntie.
I'm gonna call her Auntie. I'm

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so bad with foreign names, ironic. Yeah, come on and get with

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the program, man, I mean, since I have a foreign name,

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but whatever, not letting not that
for him but no. But so Auntie

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unfortunately is relegated to the bronze because
she hesitated to release the arrow. And

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now well, now gang Do has
to go down to Dad has to go

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down to the river. Because Grandpa
isn't upset that he's sitting there goofing off

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with the granddaughter. He's upset because
Gong Do stole the leg of a squid

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a customer. And he didn't even
steal it to eat it. He stole

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it just to be a shit.
Yeah, And you know, I want

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to say something that I this is
not directly related, but I you know,

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I try to consume a lot of
art and think about it a lot.

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And I've been watching The Stars show
Heels, the pro wrestling drama,

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which I really am enjoying the second
season first and was phenomenal. But there's

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a scene where a guy, a
character steals twenty dollars off of a table

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at a diner, a diner that's
cash only after the guy who was sitting

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at the table and said like,
can I buy your meal? Because he

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hears the guy. He hears this
young guy who's like all muscles, he's

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a wrestler. He hears this young
guy say like, just white toast,

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please, So he says, how
about I buy you some dinner. It's

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actually a really sweet scene because he
says like, you know, no,

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I'm not your charity case. He's
like, hey, I've had days where

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all I could eat was toast,
too, and I've had days where I

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could eat more. I like the
days where I could eat more, a

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bit more. And he's like,
what, I just like toasty. He's

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like, wouldn't trust a guy who
doesn't just offering? He says like leave

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me alone, basically. And so
then when the guy leaves, he walks,

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he leaves a twenty on the table
for his meal, and he comes

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up and takes the twenty. So
then as he's leaving with that twenty dollar

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bill, the waitress catches that guy
leaving and thinks he's trying to dine and

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dash, so she makes him pay. He pays again, and the worst

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part, the part that makes it
the saddest, is that she's super mean

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about it. She's like, whatever, get out here. I don't want

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to ever see your ass here again, you know. And then as he's

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walking out, the guy feels beat
so he walks up to him and gives

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him his twenty back and he's like, he's like, I'm really sorry that

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was that was me. I don't
know why I took that. And he's

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like, sure you do, because
you feel like the world owes you something.

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Maybe and he's like, and maybe
it does. Keep it. It's

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yours now. And and but like, I thought that was a really incredible

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way to look at yeah, at
that, And I think that that applies

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absolutely that in a way, it's
like he was stealing just for the principle

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of taking something because he has so
little. Well, I think that's I

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think that's a big part of it. But I think that because because we'll

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talk a little bit about Gando's childhood, uh later on in the movie,

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and he came from a very troubled
childhood, and it's revealed that he had

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to steal to survive a lot and
off. Well, sure, and so

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I think part of it is also
just like impulse, like that never left

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him. Because you talked about how
when he's sitting there watching the archery match

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with his daughter, how he's kind
of acting like a kid himself. I

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think a lot of him is kind
of stuck in arrested development. Oh,

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I mean, I think that that's
I don't even think that that's implied.

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I think that at one point Grandpa
says it, yeah, says it so

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but yeah, so so he gets
in trouble for stealing it. And that's

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what and that's the best part is
when he reveals that he did steal it,

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he still has it right there in
his pocket. Would have made more

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sense if he had took it,
taken it off to eat it right then

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and there, but he didn't.
He took it to keep it just so

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that they couldn't have it. You
know, that's not that's not nice,

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no, no, so yeah,
and again it's it's the visual storytelling of

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just like telling you all of the
good, bad, good bad and the

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ugly of these different characters. So
GANDU goes down to the river to apologize

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to the customers and to give them
a new squid and like give them a

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couple beers, and everybody notices like
a big dark shape in the river.

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And I mean this is so that
people understand this is not a small river.

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The Han River is a massive waterway
in a major metropolitan area with huge

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concrete walkways on either side. There's
boating, there's fishing, there's there's people

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working and there's people playing. I
mean, it's it's it's a congregational space.

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Yeah, that's why their shop is
right next to it, because people

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like people are there. People are
there all the time. They're hungry and

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they want, you know whatever.
And and before I forget, I do

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want to mention that. The other
thing I really liked was that Grandpa makes

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it very clear that he appreciates and
respects his customers because he mentions he's like,

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he's like, because he's like,
you took one of the tentacles,

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and you took one of the longest
ones. There's something special about when you

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get a squid just for you,
those two longest tentacles, Like you look

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forward to them, even though they
don't taste different. Yep. And I

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really appreciated that because that's true,
Like if you want to be good in

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business, and if you want to
be a good person to your customers and

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stuff, you have to think about
how you would feel absolutely every time you

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sell something. And I really like
that. I just like that that whole

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thing where he's talking to me,
He's like, how would you feel if

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you didn't get all of the tentacles
when you ordered a squid, and I

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just thought that was good. And
then when we find out later the life

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that that little shop got them out
of, you realize why he has those

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that mentality exactly, because in my
opinion, in life, you can go

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one of two ways. You can
go into that mentality or you can become

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a little prick. Yeah, that's
that's one way to put it. Yeah,

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but no. So so now they're
they're seeing the big dark shadow in

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the water of the Han River and
everybody's gathering around and they start throwing things

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at it. Yeah, because we're
all the same, all people are the

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same. That could have been you
know, the Ohio River on the Kentucky

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side, and we'd be throwing beers
at it. No, it's well,

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And that's part of part of why
this movie is so brilliant is because the

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humor is played so well into the
whole story. And that scene where everybody

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is like throwing beer cans and like
snacks and stuff. Yeah, I was

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like, I've seen this phenomena before, like doing it if by doing it?

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Yeah, like, hey look at
that weird duck. I can't starting.

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Yeah, you're just throwing things.
I won't hurt it. You're just

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like I just wanted to look at
me. I want to know, except

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like, why is it? Why
is it be look weird like that?

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So then after this really funny,
kind of like humanizing moment, then something

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starts to come out of the water, and at first you think it's like

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a tentacle or something, but it
grabs somebody and it drags it drags the

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person into the water, and then
all pandemonium breaks loose, and that's kind

407
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.759
of a moment. At first HANDU
gets caught up with the crowd and he's

408
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.680
and he's running and he's just trying
to survive and just get away. But

409
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:26.480
then something switches and you can kind
of see him snap out of it and

410
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.640
stop sleepwalking through life for a minute. And I'd mentioned to you when we

411
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.799
were watching it, because it was
my first time watching it, that I've

412
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.400
noticed that's a common angle in animes, which of course they're Japanese, but

413
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.480
but yeah, it's a similar part
of the world. And I've noticed that

414
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.880
a lot of really great anime stories
are about somebody who has gotten so complacent

415
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:52.240
that they're kind of sleepwalking, and
then something wild happens and everything is different

416
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:56.079
in that moment, and I think
that's probably a common trope, but I

417
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.880
definitely in the recent animes I've watched
recently, like very recent, it seems

418
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.880
like that is often the case you
have, like especially a young man character.

419
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:04.839
He's just kind of doing whatever,
and then all of a sudden,

420
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.640
it's like never lid. You're flung
into another world now, and you're like,

421
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.279
oh shit, you know, so
I guess I need to deal with

422
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.359
that. But no, so you're
right though, he wakes up. Yeah,

423
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:19.440
and the great part is when he
wakes up, he becomes a very

424
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:26.440
good version of himself because he's trying
to help other people, and he ends

425
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.559
up teaming up with somebody that is
revealed is an American soldier, and the

426
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.279
soldiers like we've got to, you
know, we've got to trying to kind

427
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.279
of like distract this thing. So
at first, both of them work together

428
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.519
to pick up like one of those
big traffic signs that's like got a cement

429
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.680
bottom. Yeah, yeah, it's
it's the cement that would usually be under

430
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.839
the dirt, yeah, to keep
it balanced. Yeah. So it takes

431
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.799
both of them and they're able to
manage to kind of like hoist it up

432
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:59.400
and injure the monster, but it
all kind of backfires because then the monster

433
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:03.759
just as the American soldier and just
starts flinging him, flinging him around like

434
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.039
a rag doll. I want to
say, I mean, this movie did

435
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:07.200
a lot of things right, but
that guy was Australian. I don't care

436
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.559
what you say. I didn't have
to be told who he was. I

437
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.119
saw the guy and I was like, that's in Australian. You did say

438
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.640
that is the actor. I don't
know. He was Australian to me,

439
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:19.400
and that's all it really matters.
Well, you gotta also keep in mind

440
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:22.119
the reason I would also assume he's
in Australian is they're like right next to

441
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.119
Australia. Oh absolutely, well that's
when you said that, I thought,

442
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:27.880
I'm like, well, that would
make sense that you would get an Australian

443
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:32.200
to play to play him because he's
such a small role, Like why would

444
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.319
you fly over in American all that
way when you've got Australia like in your

445
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.240
backyard. Yeah, and we'll talk
a little bit more about that because of

446
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:42.039
later on, Paul Lazar shows up
and he's one of my favorite American character

447
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:45.599
actors, and I was like,
wow, they flew like a guy that's

448
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:51.119
cast as like random dudes and stuff. I mean, like, we'll talk

449
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:52.960
more about characterists in it, but
I was like, wow, they flew

450
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:56.440
him all the way to Korea for
this movie. Wow. That tells you

451
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:01.799
Boon Jong ho is like really he
knows his movies and his actors that he'd

452
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.279
be like, I want that guy
who was you know, oh, he

453
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.880
was in Snow Piercer as well.
He put him in Snow Piercer as well.

454
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:09.920
You know, I want that guy. He was on that episode of

455
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:15.920
Law and Order and also in the
Silence of the Lambs as a small character,

456
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:17.160
you know, like, but that's
yeah, that's really that. He

457
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:21.000
was in Lorenzo's Oil. Oh yeah, he wasn't that man. He That's

458
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.559
the thing is there in everything anyway, character actors, but anyway, So

459
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:28.000
so yeah, they're trying to fend
this thing off and they're they're throwing the

460
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:31.799
sting, which actually was not a
dumb idea. That sign would be really

461
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:36.960
heavy, yeah, and could pack
a wall up. So I'm sorry,

462
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.240
though, I cut you off really
bad because that guy's Australian. I don't

463
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.720
care what anybody says, even him. I don't care what his parents say.

464
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:45.279
He's Australian, didn't. You're never
going to be convinced. I cannot

465
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:52.000
be convinced otherwise, wake up,
sheeple. Uh So, anyway, the

466
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.000
monster, you know, they they
managed to enter it to kind of like

467
00:32:55.079 --> 00:33:00.920
hurt its tail, but the monster
then grabs the Americans holder and starts flinging

468
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:07.480
him around like a ragdall and you
know, Gandu, to his credit,

469
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.799
all on his own, manages to
pick that big sign back up and wallop

470
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:17.880
the creature again and this time got
like blood all over his face. But

471
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.799
that just made the creature more upset, so it totally killed the guy and

472
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.000
just ran off. Yeah yeah,
and that was that was an interesting moment

473
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:31.960
because the guy was being so like
obscenely brave. We're both wrong. He's

474
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:39.000
Canadian and uh well that's like that's
like the Australia of the Northern Hemisphere,

475
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:46.400
right m. I'm not going to
touch that one, I say, I

476
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:52.200
kid and taught so many nationalities per
show, We're gonna let that one go.

477
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:58.640
So so yeah, so our our
faux Australian, faux American military man,

478
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.359
he gets he gets worked up.
That's the way I describe when hen

479
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:06.000
will feeds. So I figured that's
fair to describe how this thing eats.

480
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.119
And now there's we're just back to
the full blown pandemonium because we had taken

481
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:14.920
a little break from it where you
were only seeing people running by. And

482
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:16.000
I want to mention when they were
fighting, they weren't just fighting it.

483
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:21.119
They were like trying really hard to
save people from it. Absolutely, it

484
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:23.519
was very very brave because there was
a part where they were trying to open

485
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:27.000
a door to get people out because
the thing was coming through the other side

486
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.440
of a like a trailer. And
I think at one point, didn't you,

487
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.679
like look over at the main character's
name, the dad Gang Do,

488
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:35.480
Gang Do? Thank you. I
will know it. By the time we're

489
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:37.639
done, I will have it down
pat and then it'll be over and we'll

490
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:42.199
never talk about the host again on
a podcast. But Gang Do, he

491
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:44.199
like turned to Gang Do, who
was just like, well, I don't

492
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:45.480
know what to do and I can't
help anyway. I'm dumb, you know,

493
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:47.719
which is which is not. I'm
not saying that's who he is.

494
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.360
I'm saying that's what he thinks about
himself. Yes, he's like, I'm

495
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.119
too stupid to help anyway, but
he like turns to him. I think

496
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:54.800
at one point it says like,
I can't see these people out, you

497
00:34:54.800 --> 00:35:00.519
grab it or something something, because
he needed his help getting the latch open

498
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.440
so that they could let the people
out. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah,

499
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:08.840
it was very interesting for such a
brief interaction, how once Gongdu had

500
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:14.559
somebody that was treating him as being
competent, she actually was able to be

501
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:19.159
competent. And let's not even I
don't want to over I don't want to

502
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:22.960
overexamine or under examine the part where
he lifted that thing up all by himself

503
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.719
when he realized when he was trying
to save the guy who had been saving

504
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:30.119
everybody exactly, he just lifts that
thing up, and I mean that thing's

505
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.280
freaking heavy. It's got away like
at least two hundred pounds. So now

506
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:44.800
let's get to the sad part of
many. Yeah. So after Nam June

507
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:53.239
Auntie loses her match, Jiancio is
outside pouting because her Auntie just lost,

508
00:35:53.920 --> 00:36:00.039
and she doesn't notice. But whereas
normally the area leading up to the river

509
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:07.559
is like busy and bustling and full
of people, there is nobody. And

510
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:15.559
then she just hears screams approaching from
the distance, and then she sees this

511
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:20.360
monster just kind of like barreling down
and chasing all these people, And luckily,

512
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.960
Gong Dou manages to be at the
forefront, and he grabs her hand

513
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:30.119
and just starts running, but he
fumbles and falls to the ground, and

514
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.440
he thinks he's caught her again.
He thinks he's grabbed her hand again,

515
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:36.760
but then when he turns around for
a moment to look, it's another kid.

516
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:43.920
It's a different little girl, which
is a really unsettling reveal that's kind

517
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.079
of hard to imagine how it would
happen in real life. But at the

518
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:51.480
same time, it's like they were
depicting heavily the chaos. Yeah. I

519
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:55.000
mean, Korea is not known for
their cities having a lot of room to

520
00:36:55.000 --> 00:37:00.360
stretch your legs, so when everybody
is going into full chaos mode running for

521
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:06.320
their lives, it's the only way
I could describe the crowds running was thick.

522
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:10.239
Yes, it was thick with people. Yeah. And it's heartbreaking though,

523
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:14.360
because he looks back and realizes he's
pulling the wrong little girl, which,

524
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:15.880
of course, if it was me, I would have thrown her closer

525
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:17.920
to the monster be like, no, I wasn't trying to help you,

526
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:23.079
nobody, You're the distraction. Doesn't
have to run faster than the monster,

527
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:29.960
just faster than you. But a
bare logic. But so so then he

528
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:35.639
looks back and his daughter is way
further back and the creature is gaining yeah,

529
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:40.840
like pretty much already to her by
the time we see it. And

530
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.599
that was the first of many times
this movie made my stomach get really really

531
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:55.119
tight. Yeah, because just the
the look on her face when it grabs

532
00:37:55.159 --> 00:38:00.159
her and starts running off with her. That's bad enough. But then when

533
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:13.320
you look at Gongdo's face and the
defeat and the horror is just, you

534
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:16.039
know, very very well portrayed.
That the actor did a great job,

535
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:23.880
but it just kills you on the
inside. So that all happens, and

536
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:32.880
then we're at a big uh it's
a basketball I think it's a school And

537
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.000
on on the Wikipedia page it said
it was that the government had put together

538
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:43.400
the mass funeral. But so it's
a big mass funeral for everyone that was

539
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:50.239
lost during the monster attack, and
it's just hundreds of people's pictures lined up

540
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:52.599
on the wall. I think it
was like twenty it's it looked like more

541
00:38:52.679 --> 00:39:00.760
maybe it was actually no then,
but it was a lot of people.

542
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:02.679
Now we're just having a little hyperbolely
fun, that's all. And you know

543
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:06.800
how I am. I'm horrible about
when number of hyperbolic numbers of the thing

544
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:12.000
I always talk about. But no, and and they're doing and this is

545
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:16.000
not meant to sound culturally and sensitive, which means it will, but they're

546
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:25.159
from what I understand in Korea,
the tradition is that loss and mourning are

547
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:31.679
very loud, like people scream and
cry like it's normal, like they would

548
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.920
sit in place and just scream and
cry and yell because I mean, some

549
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:37.800
of the a lot of the people
missing are that are gone, we're children

550
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:43.880
and husbands and wives, and so
they're they're yeah, they're like screaming and

551
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:47.039
rocking back and forth and yelling and
crying. And then we get back to

552
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:53.400
the Park family and well, we'll
have to wait until after this break to

553
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:58.920
tell you what they have to say. It gets this gets heavy here,

554
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:14.199
guys, but will be right back
after these messages. So now the Park

555
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:17.840
family are in a mass mourning space. I don't know how else to describe

556
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:25.920
it. And they're bickering, Yeah, and it's it's set up so so

557
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:31.119
phenomenally because it starts out and it's
just Grandpa and Dad and they're sitting there

558
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:36.800
weeping and wailing and crying in front
of the picture of you know, Shansieu.

559
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:43.639
And then nom June, the sister
comes, and she has very clearly

560
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:47.639
come, like straight off the taxi
or whatever from the competition, because she's

561
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:52.880
still in her track suit, she's
still got her bow and arrows with her,

562
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:58.000
and she's just got a medal in
her hand, and she she comes

563
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:05.199
a bronze medal. But she comes
and she just her face like you can

564
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:08.599
see how devastated she is, but
her composure, she's the only person who

565
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:14.079
in the moment is maintaining her composure
right now. And she puts the bronze

566
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:19.440
medal in front of the picture and
Grandpa starts wailing. She she brought you

567
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.079
her metal, you know, she
brought you her bronze medal, and this

568
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:28.519
was all for you and all that. And then nom Ill stumbles in and

569
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:31.079
he's got a liquor bottle in his
hand. I thought it was a beer.

570
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:37.000
Maybe it wasn't a beer. Beer's
not liquor's not lir I needed lessons

571
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.599
on adult Maybe it was a beer. It looked like a beer. It

572
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:45.559
could have been one of those Asian
beers, you know. Yeahway was the

573
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:52.360
only one he had. It did
not appear to be the only one.

574
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:59.000
So he comes stumbling in and he
starts screaming even louder than the rest of

575
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.800
the family, and then he turns
to gong Do and says, you know,

576
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:06.159
how could you grab another kid?
How could you not even know,

577
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.559
like this wasn't your daughter, and
takes a swing at him and they start

578
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:15.239
like very lazily boxing, and then
they both fall to the floor and they're

579
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.079
squirming around on the floor like wrestling
with each other, and then at one

580
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.719
point when they separate, he drop
kicks him. He just I just reme

581
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:25.559
because I reacted, like I laughed
out loud because he literally like gets to

582
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:28.880
a side and then he just kind
of jumps up and hits him with both

583
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.039
his feet, and you're just like, what the thing is? You know,

584
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:35.480
I went to professional wrestling school and
drop kicks. The funny thing about

585
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.320
drop kicks is they don't feel great
to the person giving them because you hit

586
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:42.639
the ground. So it was just
it's just very funny like that he drop

587
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.719
kicks him. That's like the most
emotional like screw you. Why well,

588
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:52.679
And it's great because you can see
you really get the family dynamic because you've

589
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:57.119
got grandpa trying to separate one of
the brothers, You've got the sister trying

590
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:01.159
to separate the other one. They're
both like at each other's next everybody's screaming

591
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:07.639
and hollering and wailing. You know, he drop kicks the other guy.

592
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:14.880
And then it's great because then again
this movie, like the humor just is

593
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:20.079
perfect to break the tension because then
somebody comes in and asks who parked your

594
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.320
car somewhere? This lady's like,
oh, that's my car, and then

595
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.920
the official starts chiding her like why
would you park there? There's people in

596
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:29.519
mourning, like why would you park
there? And she's sitting there, sorry,

597
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.480
sorry, sorry, Well this family
is sitting there screaming and wailing and

598
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:37.719
punching each other. Yeah, there's
just so much going on and yeah no,

599
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:42.920
and in Parasite, I remember there
being a lot of juxtaposition of the

600
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.559
mundane with the absurd. Yeah.
I love that. I think it's great.

601
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:50.519
It's an excellent way to get across
the way. I think life really

602
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.480
is. Absolutely so I've always thought
that, you know, the absurd and

603
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:58.639
the mundane exists right next to each
other because well because honestly, otherwise,

604
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:00.800
you don't really understand how absurd something
is unless you have the mundane to compare

605
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:05.480
it to. I like the way
you think so, but yeah, I

606
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:07.679
mean yeah, So it's like they're
talking about, like why would you park

607
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:09.719
your car there? She's like,
I'm so sorry, while they're literally fighting

608
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:16.280
like little kids and sobbing. It's
yeah, it's pretty it's pretty great,

609
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:21.880
and you you feel for the family, but again you have to laugh because

610
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:25.880
it is so absurd. Yeah,
just not just that scene, but the

611
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.679
whole situation, and it keeps getting
more absurd the more you go into it.

612
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:35.679
So they're sitting there screaming and crying, and they finally stopped punching each

613
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:39.239
other at least, and then another
government official comes in and he's in full

614
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:44.480
ppe, like from head to tell. He's wearing I mean he's wearing a

615
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.559
like a like a boy like a
beekeeper outfit. You know, yeah,

616
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:52.360
he's got he's got the big hood
on and the filtration system and everything.

617
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:57.679
And so he comes and you know, he says it's basically it's a national

618
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.760
a matter of national security anyway,
one who came into close contact or was

619
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:06.400
touched by the monster identify yourself,
and Gongdu starts to comply, but then

620
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:12.440
nam Ill, who's a troublemaker and
was used to be like when he was

621
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.000
in college. It's kind of revealed
throughout the movie that when he was in

622
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:17.760
college he was a like a political
protester, so he's a bit of a

623
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:22.119
shitster. He tells his brother like, no, like, you don't have

624
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:24.400
to identify yourself to them, and
he starts like riling the people up,

625
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:28.119
like if they're going to try to
make you identify yourselves, like, you

626
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:32.800
should tell us what's going on first, and the the official tries to show

627
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:36.719
people on the news, and nothing's
on the news yet, so he just

628
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:37.840
says, like hold on, the
news will explain it, and he's like

629
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:45.679
flipping through the channels going like hold
on. And so then it a whole

630
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:51.440
bunch of government officials and probably people
from the US Army come in and just

631
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:53.920
start escorting people away, and so
they take the park family. People do

632
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:59.360
raise their hands initially to say that
they had been exposed. So they take

633
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:04.079
those they start rounding those people up
and they take them to a hospital,

634
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:09.559
and nobody at the hospital knows what's
going on, and like the US army

635
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:13.280
is there and they're trying to take
over, but the doctors are like,

636
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.559
we don't know what's going on,
and we don't even have like we don't

637
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.320
even have the staff to do what
you're asking us to do. I don't

638
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.920
know what you expect. And then
the Park family is sitting there like trying

639
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.320
to ask questions like can can we
go home now? Like what's going on?

640
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:34.159
So it's just this this absolute chaos. Yeah, we find out that

641
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:45.199
they believe the Korean government and the
US government believe that the monster is connected

642
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.840
to a deadly virus. And this, it should be mentioned, this is

643
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:53.079
on the tail end of the stars
pandemic in Asia, which I feel like

644
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:58.519
a lot of people have completely forgotten
about. But it was a big deal.

645
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:01.519
Yeah, it was bad. I
mean, I mean it was pretty

646
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:07.320
bad. I mean it's hard to
like we're talking about pandemics, you know,

647
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:08.719
we're like, oh, it's so
bad. It wasn't I mean,

648
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:14.920
it wasn't twenty twenty No, but
still it was very harmful too. It

649
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.760
was incredibly severe to Asia, to
the Asian nations, Yeah, for sure,

650
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:23.800
Southeast Asian nations. And it should
also be mentioned that our lead character

651
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:30.800
what was his name again, do
gang do that? He not only came

652
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.280
into contact with a creature, but
when he smashed its tail with that big

653
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:38.599
block, he got blood splattered from
the creature right in his face, which

654
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:43.880
would be considered extreme exposure. Yes, like he might have. It might

655
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:46.679
the blood might have gotten into his
blood stream through his mouth, nose,

656
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:51.280
or eyes. So I just wanted
to mention that too. Yeah, well

657
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:54.639
that's why they put him into Oh
yeah, they put him in like like

658
00:47:54.760 --> 00:48:00.360
it looks like they're putting him in
luggage. And the way they zip a

659
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:01.559
minute too, He's just like,
what are you doing? And they're just

660
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:05.199
like, dumb, d dumb,
dumb. It does all matter of fact.

661
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.960
Oh and that's one thing I love
is that everybody, everybody doesn't know

662
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:10.519
what they're doing. All they know
is they sure are gonna do it.

663
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:15.559
Yeah, that's and that's a common
trend in this. We're not making a

664
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.599
joke about, you know, the
movie's cultural differences. No, like it's

665
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.480
it's that's part. Literally what the
movie's about is the fact that these people

666
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:27.079
don't really know what they're doing or
why. Yeah, they're just doing it

667
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:30.360
because someone told them to do it, and not even necessarily someone who knows

668
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:34.840
anything, just someone, yeah,
just somebody who happens to be a little

669
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:38.440
bit higher up the ladder told them
to do something, so they're doing it.

670
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:46.639
Yeah. So that night, while
they're while they're in quarantine, Gung

671
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:52.280
Dou gets a call on his phone
from jan So and she's you know,

672
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:57.440
the phone call is breaking in and
out, but she's explaining like she's alive.

673
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.920
She's not necessarily safe, but she
she is alive, and she's in

674
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:05.719
a sewer somewhere, but it's a
really deep sewer, so she can't get

675
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:09.440
out. It's really big. It's
really really really big sewer. So of

676
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:15.559
course he immediately wakes up his family
and they are trying to talk to the

677
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:23.320
doctors and to the American just to
the military general, the military military,

678
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:28.880
just anybody with authority to say like, hey, she's still alive. Exactly,

679
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:31.599
because it should be mentioned that that
tentacle we saw grabbing people turned out

680
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:35.519
to be its tail, and a
tail that I don't know what the word

681
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.039
is for a tail that like is
used for grappling. Grappling, it's basically

682
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:44.000
like a hand like prehensile. Sure, yeah it's tail. Yeah, I

683
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.079
like it. That's I think that's
the word. But yeah, So,

684
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:50.199
I mean, we did not see
her eating. That's why I knew,

685
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:52.239
and I've seen enough movies to know. I was like, she's not dead,

686
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:57.159
because we saw people get worked.
But we saw her just get grabbed

687
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.280
by the tail and go underwater exactly. So there was an implication she had

688
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:04.760
drowned or been eaten, but we
didn't see anything. And generally speaking,

689
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.639
if I don't see someone die in
a movie, then I'm waiting for the

690
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:15.880
surprise exactly. So of course nobody
believe. Nobody believes them at all.

691
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:22.880
And even though even though they're trying
to explain, like you can you can

692
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:27.440
like coordinate using her phone, you'd
be able to find where she was very

693
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.280
easily. The army guy, the
army guy just kind of brushes it off.

694
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:36.480
He's like, h now, we
can't do that, nying that she

695
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.400
even called him and stuff too.
I mean they're not they're telling him he's

696
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:43.400
crazy. Yeah, they're saying that
he's going crazy because he was exposed to

697
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:47.519
that that monster's blood and also the
the extreme grief and the extreme stress and

698
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:52.719
blah blah blah blah blah exactly.
So finally I want to I want to

699
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:59.039
double check my notes to make sure
that I'm staying on track. Oh,

700
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:00.679
dear, well, I mean they're
doing a great job. You haven't looked

701
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:06.039
at him yet today. So well, I have seen the movie several times.

702
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.199
I've seen it once, I really
but I yeah, I loved it

703
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:17.719
so so oh and again playing off
the humor. I loved when the dad

704
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:23.239
uh was trying to bribe the crop
bribe the cop. But at first the

705
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:29.400
brother was trying to bribe the cop
and just totally fumbled the bag. And

706
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:30.599
then he wasn't even trying to bribe
the cop. He was just trying to

707
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.079
get the cop to do what they
wanted. He was just trying to get

708
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.400
them to do what they want.
And then the dad comes and bribes the

709
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:39.239
guy and he just looks at me. He's like, you went, you

710
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:43.639
graduated from college, you don't even
know how to how to bribe a copper.

711
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:45.039
I think he used a different word
than bribe. I think he was

712
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.639
like, you didn't even know how
to like, like, was it blackmail.

713
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:51.480
No, no, I thought he
was like, I keep wanting to

714
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:52.639
say the word finesse, but I
know that's not the word he's But it

715
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:55.480
was like, you don't even know
how to how to something a cop at

716
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:59.800
Yeah I can't remember the word now, but you know, but yeah,

717
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:00.920
I was basically like, you don't
know how to get a cop to do

718
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:07.760
what you want? You know?
That was great. So the family manages

719
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:13.719
to escape. They get out in
a van and they get help from a

720
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:20.719
bunch of criminals from like a gang. And that's very organized, very organized,

721
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:27.320
because they're sitting there writing out a
handwritten itemized receipt for all of the

722
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.599
crime shit that they just did.
Yeah, they bust them out of there.

723
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:32.159
They had to steal a van to
get them out of the Yeah,

724
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:37.000
we had to shake the cops twice. Yep, and they've I have seen

725
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:38.039
us and we had to punch.
It was like we had to punch two

726
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:42.320
policeman or something. Yeah. Like, So they had all these additional charges

727
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:45.280
and this was like we take cash
and credit card and then when and then

728
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.280
they're like we take the credit card, They just took it. They just

729
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:53.039
took it, and it was it
was beautiful because you've got the grandpa there

730
00:52:53.039 --> 00:53:01.079
and he is literally giving up every
single worldly possession aside from the little shop,

731
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:06.519
to get his granddaughter back, or
not even get his granddaughter back,

732
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:10.960
get a chance to find his granddaughter. Yeah, so I thought, I

733
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:17.800
thought that was just beautiful. So
while he's sitting there and kind of haggling

734
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:23.559
over the price of everything with these
criminals, his kids are in the van

735
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:31.800
and they're watching a they're watching a
newscast and it's talking about the American soldier

736
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:38.719
who was injured but then suddenly passed
away very tragically, shortly there after the

737
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:45.639
one that we were talking about that's
actually at but he's American. And they're

738
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:50.920
talking now about how there's probably you
know, they're probably going to have to

739
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:59.159
use something they call agent yellow,
which is like this experimental they discribed.

740
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.920
Yeah, it's a biotoxin, that's
the word that they would use to kill

741
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:08.440
the monster and then just disinfect the
han River of whatever virus. It was

742
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:14.719
very subtle, Yeah, agent yellow, agent orange, very subtle, very

743
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.519
very Agent orange went great, just
spray it all over a Yeah, there

744
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:23.800
was there was no no repercussions,
and not for anybody either, No,

745
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:28.800
no, I mean, we're pretty
sure that's how my grandpa died. Was

746
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:32.519
Agent Orange. Yeah, I mean
I mean like thirty six years later.

747
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:36.760
Yeah, but still catches up with
you. I think gets it gets you

748
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:39.519
eventually. But yeah, So they're
basically saying like that's and that's something that's

749
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:44.760
important to keep in mind, is
we've been It's been shown time and time

750
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.199
again by this point in the film
that no one understands what's going on.

751
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:51.639
No one knows where the monsters come
from, nobody knows what's going on with

752
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.360
this virus. But they already have
a solution. Yeah, which is very

753
00:54:54.400 --> 00:55:00.239
convenient. I would call it.
More to fie, I would call that

754
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:06.199
very scary that they already are talking
a solution when it doesn't seem like they

755
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:10.039
even fully understand the problem, not
at all. No, No, but

756
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:14.360
they know how to fix the problem
they don't understand. I mean, I

757
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:21.039
think that poison gas biotoxins are always
the solution. That's why I got fired

758
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:24.599
from my job at Rvy's. So, oh that was a wild time.

759
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:29.559
That was that was something you know, it was well, the intercom wasn't

760
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:34.519
working, so I would just say
spraying experimental biotoxin everywhere, and before you

761
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:37.519
know it, I'm in prison.
So but it's okay because they let you

762
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:43.719
podcast from within your cell, thank
goodness. Anyway, that was a wild

763
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:49.280
tangent. I just I'm being goofy
sell. But so now they're now they're

764
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:53.320
pretending they're they're part of the package
deal they got from the criminals. Is

765
00:55:53.519 --> 00:56:01.039
they got a vehicle and they got
they got suits like ppe Ppe suits so

766
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:05.480
that they look like they're some of
the people doing the research and clean up.

767
00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:09.159
Yes, but they're the wrong color, which I like, they no

768
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:12.239
end to that right away, they're
like, these are not the right color.

769
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.960
And then it's like we're from another
group, from another team. Yeah,

770
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:22.199
we're from another team. And now
their plan is to go beyond the

771
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:30.920
blockades to start looking for the little
girl. Yea, So they managed to

772
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:36.519
bribe somebody to get down by the
river. And it's it's kind of cool

773
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:42.440
as they kind of juxtapose it because
as the Park family is looking for their

774
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:46.840
lost their lost child, we just
kind of see off to the side are

775
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:52.239
two little kids, just no adults
around, just two random little kids,

776
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:57.199
and for just a few minutes the
movie follows them and by little kids with

777
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:02.119
me one who's probably seven six seven
years old baby, and the other's probably

778
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:07.000
thirteen, yeah, twelve, thirteen, maybe fourteen, but I think,

779
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:12.880
yeah, I think twelve or thirteen
hadn't quite puberty, hadn't quite uh kicked

780
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:19.639
up or kicked on quite yet.
But so these little kids they're wandering around

781
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:25.599
and they're talking about how hungry they
are, and they actually find grandpa's stand

782
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.159
and they start rating it, and
the youngest one he's getting ready to take

783
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:34.239
like some of the money, and
the older sibling says, no, like,

784
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:38.199
you can't do that. Like part
of this tradition that we have here

785
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:43.199
in Korea is if you steal the
food, then it's part of a ritual.

786
00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:47.400
But I didn't and I tried.
I even tried googling it, but

787
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:53.239
I couldn't find it. So it
part of the ritual is as long as

788
00:57:53.239 --> 00:58:00.079
you're stealing food, then it's the
right of the hungry. Right. So

789
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:05.559
the kids managed to grab some food
to eat and they start wandering along the

790
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:10.280
river and then the monster comes and
horks down both of them and runs off,

791
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:13.920
and they're say jin and say ju. By the way, I just

792
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:19.159
I found that when I was looking
at I was looking at the information about

793
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:22.960
the about the characters. So say
Jin and say Jum, and say Ju

794
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:30.239
is the youngest kid, and he's
the one that survives, and when the

795
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:37.199
monster kind of regurgitates him up Hensio
finds him and comforts him and kind of

796
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:43.480
keeps him distracted from realizing that his
older sibling is dead. Yeah, and

797
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:50.440
that that was cool because you really
do see her personality start to shine and

798
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:53.000
see how like what a huge heart
that she has. Yeah, but also

799
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:57.920
quite the brain. Yes, Yes, she's very intelligent as well. Yeah,

800
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:04.960
very resourceful. There's kind of a
bit of a montage then of the

801
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:12.280
family like trying to find Jon,
Sue and and kind of going around and

802
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:16.519
just trying to find every single really
deep sewer. Yeah. That and that

803
00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:22.320
is later on they reference what a
foolish idea that was to just check every

804
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:28.440
sewer when there's a lot of sewers, exactly an immense amount of sewers.

805
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:31.440
It's almost like their next four rror
or something. I don't know, man,

806
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:36.280
I don't know. Well, it's
almost like they are just a city

807
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:45.480
before they have well I'm just saying, but it's it's interesting because during that

808
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:52.000
montage, Gung Dou. Either he's
sleeping or he's running behind the van like

809
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:57.360
in the fumes. Yeah, because
he's afraid that if he's got the virus,

810
00:59:57.400 --> 00:59:59.719
that he's going to get his daughter
sick. So he's trying to like

811
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:07.679
fumigate himself. And that's uh.
After that, that little montage is when

812
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:13.199
Grandpa kind of explains a little bit
more about Gong Du. And this really

813
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:15.800
hit me. You got very emotional
during this. Well, you know,

814
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:23.440
I spent a lot of time being
the only kid with my parent and this

815
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:27.559
is pretty powerful stuff. So go
into it and I and we'll talk about

816
01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:34.320
it. Well, again, Grandpa
doesn't really explain why his wife left or

817
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:38.199
where she went, but it is
it is very clear that she didn't die.

818
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:44.039
She did choose to leave, and
she left him with a little,

819
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:49.400
tiny kid. And he doesn't out
and out say like whether. He does

820
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:53.400
say that he was always out late, and it's kind of implied. I

821
01:00:53.440 --> 01:01:00.280
think to me that he was like
working all the time, but all so,

822
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:02.440
he didn't have a lot of money
for food, so it could be

823
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:06.519
that he was working and then he
was going out drinking. But either way,

824
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:10.920
he was not home for his child. And that's why Gan Do had

825
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:16.719
to resort to this stealing ritual all
the time, is because he didn't have

826
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:21.480
any food at home. There was
no one there to care for him,

827
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:24.440
and so he would just go out
and steal whatever he could find. And

828
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:32.760
Grandpa like blames himself because he recognizes
that because he was kind of an absent

829
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:37.559
parent at that time, that Gang
Do didn't get the right nutrition, and

830
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:42.440
so he's kind of he's kind of
mentally stunted a little bit. And that's

831
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:46.159
the most parent thing in this.
And we'll get into this deeper, because

832
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:50.159
this is probably going to get really
emotional, to be honest, but first

833
01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:52.760
we have to go to a quick
word from our sponsors and we'll be right

834
01:01:52.800 --> 01:02:09.119
back. So now we get into
a little bit more of Bang Bang.

835
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:15.159
What was it? Gong Do?
I was close, were very close Gong

836
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:21.599
Do and his father, because his
father is talking about really lamenting about the

837
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:25.599
childhood that he had to that he
gave him and how he was constantly stealing

838
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:30.440
from the organic farmers nearby in order
to eat enough. And this is a

839
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:36.639
part that really clicked with me because
a lot of the time that I grew

840
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:39.800
up, it was just my mother
and I and I noticed as I got

841
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:47.840
a lot older that anything not great
she blamed herself for even if it wasn't

842
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:52.119
her fault. You know, Like, my father's not great, dude,

843
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.599
and I haven't spoken to him and
forever it probably never will speak to him

844
01:02:55.639 --> 01:03:00.480
again. And my mom will sometimes
get emotional, and I feel like,

845
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:04.320
I don't know if I should share
this, but she'll get emotional sometimes and

846
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:08.119
like, tell me she is sorry
she picked him as my father. And

847
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:12.519
it's like, Mom, you can't
blame yourself for that. Yeah, you

848
01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:16.639
just can't. Like you are the
best mom there ever was, you know,

849
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:22.320
like you did your part right.
Yeah, he just didn't live up

850
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:24.159
to his end. Yeah. No, he's a chachinko, you know,

851
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:29.000
but like you, you're great.
And that's kind of the that's kind of

852
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.440
the vibe I got from that story
because he starts saying that he thinks malnutrition

853
01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:37.639
is the reason why he in his
words, he said, he falls asleep

854
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:42.000
like a rooster with the flu.
Yeah, you know that he'll doze off

855
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:46.000
and stuff. He thinks that his
brain didn't didn't connect properly due to malnutrition,

856
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:52.039
which could be possible, but more
to me, sounds like the the

857
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:58.679
mind wheels turning of a parent who's
worried that they didn't do things right.

858
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:00.480
Yeah, and that was that was
why it hit me so hard, because

859
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:06.400
I really felt that that level of
humanity. Yeah, from that monologue.

860
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:14.800
No, and it really does.
It really does kind of reveal more of

861
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:18.719
the family dynamic because now it's not
just like this this kind of goofy grandpa.

862
01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:24.840
You really see like the father that
he he was at first and the

863
01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:29.480
father that he grew to be because
his younger kids are you know, they're

864
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:33.400
not they're not super successful there,
but they're at least not falling asleep at

865
01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:39.480
a snack stand on the Han River. Yeah, and any references because remember

866
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:42.880
what starts him saying that conversation.
He says like, you shouldn't you know,

867
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:45.760
losing your child is the worst feeling
in the world. You shouldn't be

868
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.719
saying things like why did you grab
the wrong kid? Or why are you

869
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:51.760
falling asleep? Like, just cut
him a break, is basically yeah,

870
01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:55.639
exactly, And then he starts saying
kind of a break and he's like,

871
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:59.239
besides anything that's wrong with him,
it's me. I made all the bad

872
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:01.840
things about him, Yes, and
that's what just punched me. In the

873
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:08.360
heart like super super hard, but
also made me adore this film, Yeah,

874
01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:15.079
very very much, because that's a
level of honesty that makes you really

875
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:19.920
connect with a story, and especially
the kind of thing that makes you connect

876
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:26.320
with a story that's literally in another
world. I mean, my life is

877
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:30.519
not that like a South Korean person's
life. I mean there are many things

878
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:32.440
that are the same and there are
many things that are different. But I

879
01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:36.000
hear that and I immediately go parenthood. I get it. Yeah, I

880
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:40.079
totally get it. You know,
we all worry that we're not doing enough

881
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:44.280
for the people we love, and
we all blame ourselves for a lot.

882
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:47.599
Oh yeah, so that's part of
the human condition. Well, and that's

883
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:51.400
also where we start to realize that
that's why there's a divide between the kids

884
01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:58.199
because one kid grew up probably had
him too young himself, wasn't ready for

885
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:00.400
the kid, didn't take good care
of him until he was probably a teenager.

886
01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:03.840
Yeah, these other kids got treated
well, they got to eat well,

887
01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:05.920
they got to live well, they
got to go to college, they

888
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:12.960
got to get you know, archery
instructions. It's a very different thing.

889
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:16.719
And there's that that old saying,
you know, being the first pancake.

890
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:21.280
Yeah, you know that's saying I
never heard the first pancake. Always heard

891
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:26.400
that the first child was always the
guinea pig. Well, I mean that's

892
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:29.559
not I mean, I guess if
you eat guinea pigs. But no,

893
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:32.239
no, so so, no first
child is the reason they call the first

894
01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:36.199
child the first pancake is when you
make pancakes, how often does the first

895
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:41.840
pancake not turn out right? Because
you're you're figuring out how hot the skill

896
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:45.320
it is, You're figuring out how
you know how much butter you want to

897
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.159
use. Yeah, yeah, no, I like that. The first time

898
01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:53.599
I heard that in recent memory,
aside from like folksy wisdom from my mother's

899
01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:57.119
side of the family, was in
the film Pieces of April, which is

900
01:06:57.159 --> 01:07:01.320
a phenomenal movie about a Thanksgiving that
I recommend everybody watch. Pieces of April,

901
01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:04.960
so so good, and I love
that movie. But there's a part

902
01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:09.119
where she's like, I gotta keep
it, really, I don't want to

903
01:07:09.159 --> 01:07:13.559
go on a tangent about another great
movie. But she is cooking Thanksgiving dinner

904
01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:15.960
for her parents. She lives in
a crappy apartment in New York. Her

905
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:18.760
oven doesn't work. The morning of
Thanksgiving. So now she's using the oven

906
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:21.800
of other people in the apartments,
but all of them have their own dinners

907
01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:24.719
to cook. So she's like,
They're like, I can give you two

908
01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:28.280
hours of my oven, and that
gives you two hours to find another oven,

909
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:30.840
you know, to cook that.
They're your turkey the rest of the

910
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.760
way. So she's in this wonderful
little black couple's apartment and they're just the

911
01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:39.199
sweetest people that she never had met
before in their building. And they reference

912
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:42.000
at one point when she kind of
talks about how like her younger siblings get

913
01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:44.599
along fine, but she does not, and they say, like, ah,

914
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:46.960
first pancake, and then they explain
that concept. It's like, you're

915
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:50.559
the first pancake. Doesn't turn out
right because you don't really know what you're

916
01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:56.039
doing yet, yea. And people
love that, you know. I love

917
01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:58.760
that. So Pieces of April,
for the love of God, go see

918
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:01.039
it. We can't talk about it
on the show. It's not horror is

919
01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:06.719
a beautiful drama and I love it
very very much. Could you could adapt

920
01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:12.360
it to be a horror movie?
How I just adapt you into the floor.

921
01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:20.319
But so, anyway back to the
host. So the next day,

922
01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:29.039
the park family is kind of trekking
along the Han River and they encounter the

923
01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:34.000
creature again and luckily they're armed,
and so they start unloading all their weapons,

924
01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:44.279
and Gong Do he thinks he's he's
sitting there counting his shots in his

925
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:50.239
shotgun and his dad is unloading his
own shotgun in the creature. And Gong

926
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:58.479
Do when when his father like runs
out of ammunition, he throws his shotguns

927
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:01.560
at his dad as like a last
stitch effort. But unfortunately he had he

928
01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:09.399
had like miscounted the shots and so
now his dad doesn't have any ammunition whatsoever.

929
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:13.479
And when he pulls the trigger and
then realizes as the as the creatures

930
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:17.680
barreling down on him, and they
do a great reveal where Gong Do I

931
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:19.960
got it right right, Yes,
I did, Yes, Gang Do?

932
01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:24.840
After his dad pulls a tree and
it clicks, we looked down at Gang

933
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:28.479
Dou's hands, and he was counting
his father's rounds as well, Yes,

934
01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:31.880
which is something somebody who was mentally
deficient would not be able to do.

935
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:38.159
Exactly. He's not a dumbass,
he's just not quite all there, say,

936
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:42.479
he just plays one on TV.
So but and and but yeah,

937
01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:50.479
at that moment when he realizes he
had of bullets. All he can think

938
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:57.800
to do is turn to his kids
and signal for them to run because he's

939
01:09:57.840 --> 01:10:03.359
gonna the monster's gonna get him.
Yep, and it does. And I

940
01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:10.920
can't tell you how if you watch
this movie and don't feel an incredible loss

941
01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:15.359
when that man dies, then I
got nothing for you. I think at

942
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:18.840
that point you should probably check your
pulse. I mean, how would you

943
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:25.239
do that if you're dead, Because
you're definitely dead. That killed me.

944
01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:31.600
I mean that like really really hurt
me because I just started to understand him.

945
01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:38.840
And speaking of that's that's the cruelty
of life in a nutshell, yea.

946
01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:43.159
Oftentimes you lose somebody right when you
feel like maybe you started to understand

947
01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:46.359
where they fit in your life or
where they fit in who you are,

948
01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:50.600
especially family. And that was in
a way, it felt like they were

949
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:57.239
taking away my grandpa. Oh absolutely, So that one was that was rough

950
01:10:57.359 --> 01:11:03.359
but powerful. And but then the
next part is after he's definitely dead,

951
01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:09.760
you know, after we confirm he
is not a fake out death. The

952
01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:13.520
brother and sister, Oh yeah,
she went to take a shot at the

953
01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:17.079
monster at one point. Was that
that was during this yeah, because there's

954
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:24.159
several times throughout the movie where she'll
go to take a shot and she hesitates,

955
01:11:24.359 --> 01:11:26.520
no, no, this time her
brother said, why are you what

956
01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:29.680
are you doing? Like he basically
discounted that it could even help. Yeah,

957
01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:31.479
the younger brother, he's just like, what good is that going to

958
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:36.000
do? Yeah, he's one of
the greatest archers in the world. My

959
01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:40.840
God, have a little respect for
your sister, you know, God,

960
01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:45.279
But that's the point exactly. But
so they run, the younger brother and

961
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:59.520
sister, and then gong Do ya
doing so good. Gong Do is getting

962
01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:02.159
ready to run as well, and
he checks his father and he puts a

963
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:04.680
newspaper over him, just out of
respect, you know, to cover his

964
01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:10.039
face, and he starts to leave, and then when the police come and

965
01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:13.279
catch up with the body, he
doesn't. Yeah, he can't. He

966
01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:15.039
can't bring himself, he can't leave
him. And I felt like that was

967
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:20.960
everything you needed to know. Yeah, he couldn't leave him, And that

968
01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:28.319
was that's a really beautiful moment.
And it's not, you know, a

969
01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:32.439
traditionally beautiful moment getting caught by the
police, you know, but it showed

970
01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:38.199
the level of loyalty that gong Dou
had for his family. Yeah, because

971
01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:41.159
his other siblings were they were fine
with just getting out of there and and

972
01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:45.359
I mean that was their father's wish. Yeah. So it's not about letting

973
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:49.520
down or disappointing your father. It's
about the fact that Gong Do could not

974
01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:56.119
exactly he could not leave his dad. He just couldn't. He just playing

975
01:12:56.199 --> 01:13:01.800
could not. Yep, A punch
in the gut. Yeah, it was.

976
01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:08.119
It was tough. It was very
tough. And just when he when

977
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:15.520
he is crying and putting the newspaper
over his dad's face, and it just

978
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:19.279
it just rips your heart out.
And that's That's one of the things is

979
01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:25.840
this movie go will go from being
rather funny and comic and lighthearted to just

980
01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:30.600
like totally ruining you emotionally in the
very next scene, which is why I

981
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:33.920
love it, which is yeah,
which makes it great. That's my jam.

982
01:13:34.840 --> 01:13:42.079
So now we know that Gong Du
has been caught by the police,

983
01:13:42.359 --> 01:13:47.359
and so that means that you know, he's going to be getting getting sent

984
01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:51.319
over to the army, yeah,
because they want to they want to investigate

985
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:57.039
if he has this viral infection that
they're so afraid of. But before we

986
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:01.399
get to that. The younger brother, not Ill. He meets up with

987
01:14:01.439 --> 01:14:08.039
an old friend of his because he
still thinks that there's a way to find

988
01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:13.880
Jian Sue by using her cell phone
signal. Right, So they go to

989
01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:19.239
a office building and his friend is
kind of just casually making conversation, asking

990
01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:21.840
like, oh, well, how's
your sister? Where is your sister?

991
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:26.079
And he's like, oh, well, we're traveling separate because it's safer that

992
01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:31.239
way. And now I'm Ill is
kind of sitting there at the computer and

993
01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:38.199
he manages to get the computer working, and he's looking at this map and

994
01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:40.920
his friend goes off into the other
room. Well before that, though,

995
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:43.720
I want to mention that he asks
his friend like, is it possible to

996
01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:45.880
find out where that call camera?
He's like, oh easy, yeah,

997
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:48.520
Like why didn't you call me?
Why didn't you call me? Did you

998
01:14:48.560 --> 01:14:51.279
call me immediately? Yeah? But
I love that He's like, it's this

999
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:54.600
is not a difficult thing to do
at all. We'll just figure out where

1000
01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:56.920
the phone call came from. But
yeah, so now his friend, though,

1001
01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:01.399
his friend begins to quietly wander to
the other side of the office building

1002
01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:09.159
and you take it from here.
But like this is some stuff. So,

1003
01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:14.840
oh well, his friend had mentioned
that, like, it's good that

1004
01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:18.479
you're traveling separately from your sister because
the government's got a bounty on your head.

1005
01:15:18.520 --> 01:15:24.600
Basically, so when his friend starts
wandering to the other end of the

1006
01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:27.880
office building, you get a little
suspicious. And then he goes to a

1007
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:35.199
room and the room is crowded with
probably I think police, Like it looked

1008
01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:42.680
like police officials or I thought that
they were people he worked with selling him

1009
01:15:42.680 --> 01:15:46.119
out because they were worked. I
thought that they were I thought because they

1010
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:48.520
weren't like at battle stations, and
I think they were all just kind of

1011
01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:53.039
hanging to the side, which made
me think that they were all like waiting

1012
01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:56.239
to find out if this was going
to pay out, because there was references

1013
01:15:56.239 --> 01:15:59.479
to the fact that like all of
these business professional people are freaking broke.

1014
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:03.439
Oh I miss that. No,
yeah, you're probably right. He mentions

1015
01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:08.199
he's in like a crazy amount of
debt. Yeah, in passing. That's

1016
01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:11.840
the sense I got was that they
were all they had all left their desks

1017
01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:15.239
to make the guy feel like he
was secure. Okay, maybe I'm wrong,

1018
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:17.359
but that was not already think was
that they wanted the office to be

1019
01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:20.520
empty, so he'd think that there
was only his friend there. Yeah,

1020
01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:25.520
they were all there. They were
all there because they they all wanted because

1021
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:28.119
in on that action, Yeah,
they couldn't have been cops because they were

1022
01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:30.560
asking each other like what's the what
is the reward up to it? That's

1023
01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:38.279
right? Yeah. So his friend, his friend kind of says like,

1024
01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:41.439
well, we can't get a hold
of his sister, but we at least

1025
01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:45.119
we've got him, so let me
let me go back out there and kind

1026
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:47.800
of start to finesse him. But
now I'm Ill, Like again, when

1027
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:51.720
he was in college, he was
kind of a shit ster. So he

1028
01:16:51.760 --> 01:17:01.760
starts to notice that the vibes are
off. So when the when the people

1029
01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:08.479
all start coming out of this adjoining
office room and they're saying basically like oh,

1030
01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:11.800
well you need you need to stop, like don't resist, like we've

1031
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:15.279
got you surrounded, and nom Ill
just immediately finds a way to cut out

1032
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:18.920
the lights and just books it.
Yeah, he like pulls a breaker or

1033
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:23.079
something and then yeah, it books
out and they're all stuck behind a locked

1034
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:28.840
door. Yeah, he's just like
nah quick, Yeah, And that's the

1035
01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:34.199
moment that you realize maybe he's not
a little pansy boy, like he kind

1036
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:40.199
of comes off as yeah, because
he comes off as being really entitled and

1037
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:45.199
like woe is me, But you
start to realize like, oh, he's

1038
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:48.600
got more to him as well,
like the whole family does. They're they're

1039
01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:56.159
three dimensional, and so you're starting
to see his extra dimensions. So he

1040
01:17:56.560 --> 01:18:03.359
escapes and uh he he's got Janshu's
location, so he knows where to go,

1041
01:18:03.439 --> 01:18:08.920
but the rest of the family doesn't. And that's when that's one of

1042
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:14.840
the big moments then for the sister
Namju is she's by herself and she's stalking

1043
01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:20.079
the creature and that's when she goes
to take a shot and she hesitates and

1044
01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:28.279
it uh rams into her yea and
she goes flying off into like a little

1045
01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:32.560
ravine thing. It's like a little
cubby in the in the in the sewer,

1046
01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:36.840
yeah kind of thing. Yeah.
Yeah. So again, she doesn't

1047
01:18:36.920 --> 01:18:41.159
die on camera, so we assume
like she's not dead, but we don't

1048
01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:44.239
know when she's going to come back. And that's when we go back to

1049
01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:50.920
gong Do and he's they're getting like
they're getting ready to lobotomize him. Well

1050
01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:58.680
we find that out adorably as he
starts chatting with the with the the American

1051
01:18:58.920 --> 01:19:03.399
military doctor played by, in my
opinion, the legendary Paulazar, and I

1052
01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:08.119
wanted to talk about him a little
bit, and I will right after we

1053
01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:12.560
get back from this quick break.
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1054
01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:28.960
the scare. So now we're at
the point in the film where we're really

1055
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:33.279
starting to figure out what people.
I was gonna say no, but it's

1056
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:39.279
really don't know ye, And we're
introduced to Paul Lazar. In my opinion,

1057
01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:43.399
Paul Lazar is a legendary character actor. And for those who don't know,

1058
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:49.560
character actor means ugly, and I
mean I'm joking, but also for

1059
01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:53.800
really, yeah, you're not wrong. There's a saying in show business that

1060
01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:58.159
character actor for men means ugly and
for women means old. I mean,

1061
01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:00.239
yeah, there are old men,
ca atter actress, although they are pretty

1062
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:03.800
ugly. But but he's been in
I mean, more movies than I could

1063
01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:12.119
possibly throw your way, Los Loco, Six Ways to Sunday, Buffalo Girls,

1064
01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:14.720
Speechless, Trapped in Paradise which actually
liked that movie. A lot of

1065
01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:17.600
people don't. He was in an
episode of Pete and Pete Bob Oppenheimer.

1066
01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:21.319
He's he's known for being cross eyed. I mean, that's like one of

1067
01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:25.960
those works that shows off is that
he is cross eyed or he has lazy

1068
01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:29.319
I'm not sure. I think it's
cross eyed. I think, and that's

1069
01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:38.079
just his that's his trademark. He
started his career in UH in nineteen eighty

1070
01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:43.119
three and ended up having a big, big deal in nineteen ninety one being

1071
01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:45.840
in the Silence of the Lambs,
and from there he's just had an incredible,

1072
01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:51.159
incredible career and I love him and
seeing him pop up in this movie,

1073
01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:56.680
I'm sure you noticed it made me
perk up. I didn't remember his

1074
01:20:56.760 --> 01:20:59.920
name off the top of my head, but I remember him, yeah,

1075
01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:03.319
I mean, and he's he's memorable. So anyway, I just wanted to

1076
01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:09.359
mention I love Paul Lazar and he
does not disappoint in this role. No,

1077
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:13.880
not at all, because he's so
confident that they need to just do

1078
01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.760
what they've been told to do.
But when the other scientists, the Korean

1079
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:21.680
scientist is kind of questioning him,
like wait, so why are we Like,

1080
01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:25.399
why are we saying there's a virus? Why are we doing this?

1081
01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:29.279
He's like, don't worry about it. That's not why we're here. We're

1082
01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:31.439
just here to do it. Yeah. But he's the one that when they

1083
01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:33.479
tell him what's going on, he's
like, why didn't you try to tell

1084
01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:35.960
the police? Why didn't you try
to tell the military? And he's like,

1085
01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:40.199
no one will listen. He's a
guy, And that's I love that,

1086
01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:45.039
because Gongdu is so desperate that he
just says, no one would fucking

1087
01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:51.079
listen to me, and I tried
telling everyone. And Paul Lazar's character feels

1088
01:21:51.159 --> 01:21:56.239
for him, He feels bad for
him, but he's like, well,

1089
01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:00.680
anyway, there's nothing we can do. Let's get on with your lobatic Yeah.

1090
01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:01.880
Yeah. He's just kind of like, well, we got to check

1091
01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:08.439
this out. And that's where they
also reveal that the not Australian Canadian not

1092
01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:15.640
that is actually American military guy had
not died from an infection. He had

1093
01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:19.399
died during a brain surgery that they
were doing to try and figure out if

1094
01:22:19.439 --> 01:22:26.439
he had the virus, which they're
now going to do to our hero exactly.

1095
01:22:27.399 --> 01:22:31.039
And this is one of the one
of the things that was so terrifying,

1096
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:36.319
because they've got Gong Dou restrained down
on the operating table and they're they're

1097
01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:42.239
literally like marking off on his head
and screaming like there is no virus there.

1098
01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:45.399
They just told me there's no virus. Why are you doing this?

1099
01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:48.399
And everybody's reaction is the shrug.
Yeah, they just keep on doing what

1100
01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:54.239
they're good little worker bees. And
you know, I gotta say, what

1101
01:22:54.600 --> 01:22:59.199
a film for this time in the
world. It really and I'm not trying

1102
01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:02.359
to be one of those freaking people
like oh you know, but like it

1103
01:23:02.439 --> 01:23:08.319
says a lot about the fact that
people just sometimes go through the motions because

1104
01:23:08.359 --> 01:23:11.199
they're supposed to, and then you
go, well why, and they're like,

1105
01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:14.680
because it's what we have to do. It's like that doesn't Yeah,

1106
01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:17.640
I loved that. I loved that
because I felt it. I felt it

1107
01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:24.039
in my goddamn heart. Yeah.
So they end up drilling a little hole

1108
01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:30.359
in his brain and taking out a
sample of blood of fluid, right and

1109
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:38.359
afterward that's when he manages to escape
and he does one of my favorite things

1110
01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:44.960
I may have ever seen in a
movie ever, which is after he's so

1111
01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:48.039
perfect. After he's like jumped up
and I mean, he just had brain

1112
01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:51.840
surgery and he's just like whatever.
And I even made a reference that.

1113
01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:54.920
I felt like it was kind of
paying off back to the thing where he

1114
01:23:54.960 --> 01:24:00.479
said, like his brain doesn't quite
work right. Therefore he just you can

1115
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:02.159
take a chunk out of it.
It's good. I wasn't using that chunk

1116
01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:06.079
anyway. So he jumps up,
grabs the syringe full of his brain matter,

1117
01:24:08.279 --> 01:24:13.119
grabs a hostage, and says he's
going to inject her with his virused

1118
01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:17.640
brain matter. And they're all terrified. Yeah, which is even better because

1119
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:24.399
we've just established that they know there
is no virus, but then they still

1120
01:24:24.439 --> 01:24:32.239
believe it. I love that.
That's that's so perfect, such perfectly telling

1121
01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:41.720
storytelling parts telling so great well,
and you you nearly lost it when he's

1122
01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:46.439
got the syringe, like he just
squirts a little bit out of the syringe.

1123
01:24:46.600 --> 01:24:50.479
No, I lost my freaking shit, man, because that's hilarious.

1124
01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:57.840
But the fact that they're all they're
all afraid and they know it's not so

1125
01:24:58.399 --> 01:25:03.159
yeah, they know that it's not
true. And I think I felt like

1126
01:25:03.199 --> 01:25:09.600
a lot of this movie was about
protesting the way a lot of Southeast Asian

1127
01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:14.880
countries are managed, because even the
ones that are more democratic than others,

1128
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:19.600
they have a lot of issues with
silencing descent they have a lot of issues

1129
01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:24.680
with. I mean, again,
this is not meant to get political,

1130
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:28.600
but let's the movie takes a dive
at it. They were talking, I

1131
01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:30.920
mean, they made very serious reference
to how they weren't happy about how they

1132
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:35.920
were treated during Stars. Yeah,
and the exact same happen thing happened with

1133
01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:41.720
COVID over there they shut everything down, but not really but like it was

1134
01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:45.600
a weird thing and we never had
that over in America until COVID. Yeah,

1135
01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:48.359
but they had that happened multiple times
where they'd be like, well,

1136
01:25:48.359 --> 01:25:50.199
what is this, Like how's it
going to make us sick? Like how

1137
01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:54.359
would we catch it by going to
the grocery store? And people will be

1138
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:56.600
like, well, because you will
shut up, you know, and like

1139
01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:00.960
it's about it's and it's not,
my dear listeners, no matter what your

1140
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:05.800
opinion of the world is, it's
not about fake viruses. It's not about

1141
01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:12.520
fake it's not about fake monsters.
It's not about fake you know, creating

1142
01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:17.279
crimes to make people real criminals when
it's faked. It's about fake leadership.

1143
01:26:17.800 --> 01:26:25.600
Yeah, it's about the fact that
leaders are so often completely and utterly full

1144
01:26:25.640 --> 01:26:30.640
of I was gonna say ship.
But let's go with like like mule diarrhea.

1145
01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:35.520
They are so full of it.
Yeah, it honestly, it amazes

1146
01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:39.520
me that when you see a politician
that any of them's their eyes aren't brown.

1147
01:26:40.079 --> 01:26:43.600
Like it's incredible to me because they're
so full of it. And that's

1148
01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:47.640
the thing. It's it's it's managerial
theater, it's leadership theater. You have

1149
01:26:47.680 --> 01:26:51.560
to have a solution right now.
You have to have a solution right this

1150
01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:57.279
second. Is that the right one? We need a solution now. Yeah,

1151
01:26:57.319 --> 01:27:00.680
that that wasn't the requirement. We
just need it now. Yeah.

1152
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:01.279
And then it's like, well,
what if we do bad, It's like,

1153
01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:06.800
well, we're the ones who judge
how we did m That's an argument

1154
01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:12.079
I have all the time with people
about like when they want to fix something

1155
01:27:12.119 --> 01:27:14.279
and I'm like, well, the
government did a bad job, so you're

1156
01:27:14.319 --> 01:27:24.119
saying we should just hope the government
gets better. Oh b KB, I

1157
01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:27.640
got nothing, So but I mean
I wouldn't you know. I, Like

1158
01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:29.880
I said, not trying to get
political, but the movie is making a

1159
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:35.800
very serious political statement about the fact
that our leaders are sometimes just completely and

1160
01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:43.000
utterly incompetent. And I think that's
a valuable lesson because I would say the

1161
01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:50.800
average person is very intelligent compared to
the average leader on this planet. Leaders

1162
01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:57.199
are so leadership and government they're so
stupid that they have to convince you of

1163
01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:01.079
their value. In the private sector, if you have value, then they

1164
01:28:01.159 --> 01:28:05.119
value you. To the readership section
segment, all you do is tell people

1165
01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:11.600
how valuable you are. It's like
one step one step below hip hop artist

1166
01:28:12.199 --> 01:28:15.920
because at least their job is to
talk shit to get you to like them.

1167
01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:20.119
I'm just saying, you know,
take the Republican National Convention, have

1168
01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:24.760
them freestyle fight against each other,
and maybe I'll get my ass out and

1169
01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:30.680
vote. There's the solution. I
am full of solutions. So anyway,

1170
01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:35.479
I digress. So he manages to
get out, although he discovered, oh

1171
01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:39.239
my god, he discovers when he
gets out of the operating room that it's

1172
01:28:39.319 --> 01:28:43.880
like a trailer in the middle of
the country and there's like military for both

1173
01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:48.720
the US and Korea, just like
having a cook out. Yeah yeah,

1174
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:53.359
because their job is to facilitate the
security of the of the operation, I

1175
01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:58.359
would assume. Yeah, so there's
nothing to do, no, so they

1176
01:28:58.479 --> 01:29:00.520
just hang out and go. Well, if someone shows up to stop us,

1177
01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:05.399
we'll shoot him. But yeah,
so anyway you want him Kimchi.

1178
01:29:06.640 --> 01:29:13.880
And you mentioned earlier that the dad
or the grandpa was willing to give up

1179
01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:17.199
nearly anything to have a chance to
look for his granddaughter. But in this

1180
01:29:17.279 --> 01:29:23.159
moment, knowing his father is gone
and knowing that he now owns the snack

1181
01:29:23.199 --> 01:29:29.880
shop, he is willing to give
them the snack shop not to help him

1182
01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:31.640
find his daughter, but just to
let him go find her. Yeah.

1183
01:29:32.039 --> 01:29:36.640
Yeah, And I found that extremely
powerful that it, Like, I love

1184
01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:40.279
that. It wasn't it wasn't like
if I'll give you this just help me

1185
01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:43.399
find herself. I'll give you this, just stop not letting me do it.

1186
01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:46.560
Yeah, like like and and and
realistically, this is a giant,

1187
01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:53.520
evil monster that's killing tons of people, right, So really what he's saying

1188
01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:56.880
is let me have a chance to
go die trying to save my daughter.

1189
01:29:57.159 --> 01:30:00.319
Yes, and I mean that sincerely, Like that's a hell of a sentiment.

1190
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:05.439
Yeah, And that was when the
movie was really basically from the moment

1191
01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:13.279
his the grandfather died, the movie
had me completely enthralled. Like I mean,

1192
01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:17.279
like, I'm so deeply interested and
what's going to happen with these characters

1193
01:30:17.279 --> 01:30:21.319
and where they're heading. Before that, I was pretty damn interested. But

1194
01:30:21.359 --> 01:30:25.000
then I was just like, oh
my god, because I kept thinking like,

1195
01:30:25.039 --> 01:30:28.399
if this ends, well, this
is like the best freaking movie,

1196
01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:31.760
one of my favorite movies I've ever
seen. Yeah. Yeah, So,

1197
01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:42.159
so after Gandu managed to escape,
we go back into the sewer with chian

1198
01:30:42.279 --> 01:30:51.920
suh and uh, see ju,
that's it. And again going back to

1199
01:30:53.239 --> 01:30:59.920
what a clever and resourceful kid she
is, chian Su takes a whole bunch

1200
01:30:59.920 --> 01:31:03.399
of clothes from different victims that are
down in the pit with them. Well,

1201
01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:06.600
and from the beginning, every time
a new person came through, whether

1202
01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:11.520
they were alive or dead, she
checked them for anything that could be used

1203
01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:16.159
to get out of the situation,
which is incredibly incredibly smart. Yeah sorry,

1204
01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:21.880
I just want to give her credit
where credits due. Oh. Absolutely.

1205
01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:29.800
So they make a rope and they
make kind of like a well they

1206
01:31:29.880 --> 01:31:34.720
use something so that it would like
latch onto grading up above them, and

1207
01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:39.640
they throw it and they managed to
latch onto the grating, but the rope

1208
01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:44.159
is too short. Yeah yeah,
math I guess was not her strongest skill.

1209
01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:48.600
No, well, she's still like
ten the strongest skill she's in grade

1210
01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:54.640
school, so she's still pretty young. But so when the monster is back

1211
01:31:54.640 --> 01:32:00.079
and it's napping, Heiansue notices that
she could run up it's back and use

1212
01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:06.159
it like a ramp and maybe she
would be able to get out. And

1213
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:11.600
so she runs up its back and
she jumps and she catches onto the rope

1214
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:15.239
and she just kind of dangles in
midair there for a few minutes, and

1215
01:32:15.279 --> 01:32:20.720
then you see her let go of
the rope and she's still hovering, and

1216
01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:26.960
then she just slowly lowers to the
ground and you notice that the creature caught

1217
01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:32.039
her tail with its prehensible tail,
and it's not going to let her go.

1218
01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:34.880
Yeah, it's not going to kill
her right now, not yet.

1219
01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:38.880
It's not letting her go. Well, and we realized, I think we

1220
01:32:38.960 --> 01:32:41.640
haven't gotten to the part with the
bones yet, or did we see we

1221
01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:44.520
had already seen that, so she
knows they're going to be eaten events.

1222
01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:47.640
So there's a moment where we're wondering
why is this keeping some people alive in

1223
01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:51.119
the sewer? And then at one
point when it comes to drop off and

1224
01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:55.319
you think like, oh, here
come more people, it just pukes up

1225
01:32:55.359 --> 01:33:00.239
a bunch of bones and trash and
beer cans, and that's when she realizes

1226
01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:05.399
that they're being saved to be eaten. Yeah, because it's like, the

1227
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:11.079
first thought I had when we saw
was owl pellets. How owl's move a

1228
01:33:11.319 --> 01:33:14.760
pellet full of the bones and stuff
they can't digest. Well, that's kind

1229
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:16.880
of what this thing is doing.
Oh exactly, that's exactly what it's doing.

1230
01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:19.880
And that's when she that's the moment
when she realizes we have to build

1231
01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:21.920
that rope, because she's like,
well, we gotta get out of here,

1232
01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:26.039
like exactly, well, it's just
a matter of time before we're eating.

1233
01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:31.119
And again, talk about telling stories
with pictures. That was a mortifying

1234
01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:35.119
picture, but a picture nonetheless,
and one of the moments in the film

1235
01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:38.920
that solidifies that it is a horror
film, that in the fact that there's

1236
01:33:38.960 --> 01:33:42.479
a freaking monster in it. Because
I will say, like when you were

1237
01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:45.640
talking about genre at the beginning,
I am a very I try to be

1238
01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:49.840
very chill and flexible with genre,
but like, it's a monster movie.

1239
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:54.159
There's a monster, and the monster
is important. It is and for the

1240
01:33:54.239 --> 01:33:58.520
record, like Godzilla is a monster
movie. Godzilla is in probably in most

1241
01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:01.279
Godzilla movies as much as this monster
is in this movie. Yeah, because

1242
01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:06.720
Godzilla movies are often just like court
dramas, and I mean seriously, they're

1243
01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:11.640
like they're it's true, it's true, they're they're parliamental dramas. Yes,

1244
01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:15.039
because it's not courtrooms. They're in
like congresses and stuff, debating what to

1245
01:34:15.119 --> 01:34:17.840
do. I remember when we went
to see shin Godzilla almost so perfect,

1246
01:34:18.039 --> 01:34:21.880
so good, but I'm just saying, like the whole that's a newer Japanese

1247
01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:29.479
Godzilla movie, and but like almost
the whole movies congress arguing about everything from

1248
01:34:29.520 --> 01:34:31.960
you know, where do we move
the people that Godzilla's home has destroyed their

1249
01:34:31.960 --> 01:34:38.039
homes too? Do we call him
Godzilla or Gojira? It's like, wait,

1250
01:34:38.079 --> 01:34:40.239
we need to clear this up.
This is really important. We need

1251
01:34:40.279 --> 01:34:43.239
to take it down. In the
minutes and it's like people are dying and

1252
01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:48.520
you're the leaders again see leaders stupid, the leaders of the nation and of

1253
01:34:48.680 --> 01:34:51.680
multiple other large nations, and you're
just like, well, we have to

1254
01:34:51.720 --> 01:34:55.600
settle what his name is. First, it's like, are you kidding me?

1255
01:34:55.760 --> 01:34:57.920
And then they and then the best
person they'll we have to settle and

1256
01:34:57.920 --> 01:35:01.279
then somebody says we've settled it Godzilla
and Gojira are both acceptable. It's like,

1257
01:35:01.359 --> 01:35:08.520
now, we didn't even accomplish anything
to welcome. Welcome to government.

1258
01:35:08.960 --> 01:35:17.720
Oh government, government. So anyway, So so after getting gently put back

1259
01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:23.720
down on the ground, Jean Sue
notices, Okay, the creature is definitely

1260
01:35:23.760 --> 01:35:30.079
not asleep, and it then chases
her down and chases her to the little

1261
01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:33.960
hiding spot that she's got with said
you, and they get worked again,

1262
01:35:34.079 --> 01:35:40.359
not eaten, but they get swallowed
right, and the monster starts going on

1263
01:35:40.399 --> 01:35:48.239
a rampage. And that's when the
uncle, now I'm ill, just kind

1264
01:35:48.239 --> 01:35:51.239
of runs into a homeless guy.
Yes, yes, yes, this is

1265
01:35:51.319 --> 01:35:58.039
so good. So he kind of
runs into this homeless guy and at first

1266
01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:00.720
he's trying to talk like talk to
the homeless, I like, trying to

1267
01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:03.720
get his help, like by being
nice, and the homeless guy just kind

1268
01:36:03.720 --> 01:36:10.359
of like brushes him off and then
smashes a beer bottle over his head and

1269
01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:13.039
that says, yeah, I guess
I'll help you anyway, I'm bored.

1270
01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:15.920
Well, well he don't. He's
like gonna pay him. Then everything he

1271
01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:19.359
goes like you can't buy everything with
money, and he breaks the bottles says

1272
01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:21.960
but on board, So I'll do
it. Like, I don't even think

1273
01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:25.479
he took the payment. No,
Yeah, I just wanted to do it

1274
01:36:25.520 --> 01:36:28.960
because he's bored and I can appreciate
like a guy who lives in the sewers,

1275
01:36:29.039 --> 01:36:30.399
Like, look, money is of
I don't value it at all.

1276
01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:34.880
Yeah, but yeah, so he
ends up TV up with him for this

1277
01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:42.800
crazy endeavor. They're just sitting there
making Molotov cocktails and like walking down the

1278
01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:46.960
street as they're getting like and that's
again going back to what happens in Southeast

1279
01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:53.720
Asia. People are there on the
river building protests, like starting to protest

1280
01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:56.680
the use of agent Yellow. Yeah, because I guess they don't know what

1281
01:36:56.720 --> 01:37:00.319
the hell it is or what they
can do to everybody, so they're concerned.

1282
01:37:00.399 --> 01:37:05.640
And and I want to mention bo
Boone John, who I always I

1283
01:37:05.640 --> 01:37:12.920
always worry I'm gonna get June Bon
June hoo Bong June hoo u. He

1284
01:37:14.439 --> 01:37:19.479
loves uh mists fogs. There's a
lot of that in Parasite, and there's

1285
01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:25.159
a ton of the fumigation is the
term in this movie. There's tons of

1286
01:37:25.199 --> 01:37:30.680
fumigation in this film as well.
So I thought that was a nice touch

1287
01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:33.880
by the way that it was going
to be a yellow fumigation basically. And

1288
01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:39.520
so now people are protesting, they're
gathering up to protest, and while they're

1289
01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:44.319
gathering up to protest, they're hearing
announcements saying like please leave, disperse,

1290
01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:48.960
we are going to release the gas. Disperse. Uh at least that's one

1291
01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:51.840
of the things, was like,
please walk away until you can no longer

1292
01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:56.760
hear this message. And they're not, you know, they're protesting and screaming

1293
01:37:56.760 --> 01:38:00.399
and there, and they've got their
masks and their signs and their and their

1294
01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:05.159
flags and they are ready to fight. But they're not the only ones ready

1295
01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:13.800
to fight. Oh no, my
dear listener, because the Park family is

1296
01:38:13.840 --> 01:38:19.680
ready to fight. Yea, they
have they have unknowingly assembled, yeah,

1297
01:38:19.720 --> 01:38:26.560
on the banks of the of the
river. And now we've got Maltov cocktails,

1298
01:38:27.079 --> 01:38:30.359
we've got bow and arrows. We've
got a man with a piece of

1299
01:38:30.359 --> 01:38:36.159
his brain missing. But it's fine, and the final showdown of the host

1300
01:38:38.439 --> 01:38:44.600
is imminent. Right after these words
from the from our very lovely sponsors,

1301
01:38:44.840 --> 01:38:58.880
I'm a professional, damn it.
I live in a car. So now

1302
01:38:59.079 --> 01:39:03.399
some kind of ship is about to
hit some kind of fan. What voice

1303
01:39:03.479 --> 01:39:08.039
was that? A little bit of
John Madden, a little bit of a

1304
01:39:08.119 --> 01:39:12.640
pro wrestling announcer. No, I
get that if John Madden was a pro

1305
01:39:12.680 --> 01:39:15.960
wrestling announcer. It's a moment like
this, when the irresistible force hits the

1306
01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:21.800
immovable object. It's only a matter
of time before you always go back to

1307
01:39:23.279 --> 01:39:27.479
wrestling to wait to talking about her. It's actually doing it. Yes,

1308
01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:33.279
oh god, Okay, so the
showdown is coming. And I perked right

1309
01:39:33.359 --> 01:39:40.560
up because I loved even though it's
unpleasant and complicated, I loved everything about

1310
01:39:40.600 --> 01:39:44.520
how they did the final conflict.
And there's actually not that much to say

1311
01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:49.680
about it now other than it's good. It really is. It's you.

1312
01:39:50.479 --> 01:39:55.439
The only critique you had is they
had mentioned at the beginning that any any

1313
01:39:55.520 --> 01:39:58.960
animal that kills a human, you
need to tear it limb. From any

1314
01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:01.600
animal that kills your family, yes, that the family has the right to

1315
01:40:01.680 --> 01:40:05.600
hunt it down and tear it,
tear off all of its limbs, which

1316
01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:10.000
the grandpa mentions, and I immediately
my ears perked up and I was like,

1317
01:40:10.119 --> 01:40:12.239
that's gonna pay off later. Yeah, I'd like do that. And

1318
01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:15.119
it didn't literally happen, but it
kind of sort of happened. Figuratively,

1319
01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:18.000
and we'll get there in just like
a minute, really, because it all

1320
01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:24.279
happens at once now, So now
help me break this down. So the

1321
01:40:24.319 --> 01:40:29.399
Molotov cocktails are kind of leading the
creature around, right, That's that's number

1322
01:40:29.399 --> 01:40:33.039
one, and then number two is
our our father character is just freaking like

1323
01:40:33.079 --> 01:40:35.880
holding a pole, right, he's
got a pole, and he's just kind

1324
01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:42.600
of swinging around, damn right,
doing doing whatever he can. And the

1325
01:40:42.640 --> 01:40:46.159
ant comes back, she gets out
of the little ditch thing and she comes

1326
01:40:46.199 --> 01:40:54.920
back, but of course she's constantly
hesitating, and you see everybody's personalities kind

1327
01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:59.880
of playing out because the dad is
just attacking wherever he gets a chance,

1328
01:41:00.239 --> 01:41:06.359
just stabbing and stabbing and stabbing,
and the uncle is trying to herd the

1329
01:41:06.399 --> 01:41:13.680
monster so that it's in an advantageous
position so that the homeless man can douse

1330
01:41:13.720 --> 01:41:17.279
it with a whole bunch of gasoline
and then the uncle could hit it with

1331
01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:21.720
a Molotov cocktail and light it on
fire. Right, and again a little

1332
01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:30.479
a little old school Korean barbie.
Yeah, yeah, getting nice and crispy.

1333
01:41:30.760 --> 01:41:35.680
But the problem is the uncle as
he's getting ready to throw his last

1334
01:41:36.039 --> 01:41:40.560
Molotov cocktail and this is all going
great. You forgot that one of my

1335
01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:43.520
favorite moments, because you like to
joke when we were watching it that the

1336
01:41:43.520 --> 01:41:47.720
creature is inept. Yes, I
said that it's unforgivably inept, and I

1337
01:41:47.760 --> 01:41:53.079
felt that the creature was not that. I felt the creature was as inept

1338
01:41:53.119 --> 01:41:58.239
as any animal until this moment,
big dumb animal until this moment. Because

1339
01:41:58.279 --> 01:42:01.640
as the creature is finally under the
bridge where the homeless guy is with the

1340
01:42:01.680 --> 01:42:05.479
fuel, he starts pouring it on
it and it freaking looks up. It

1341
01:42:05.520 --> 01:42:11.279
starts opening its mouth to drink it. And that's when I was like,

1342
01:42:11.880 --> 01:42:15.119
Yeah, this thing is is This
thing is as dumb as a sack of

1343
01:42:15.239 --> 01:42:19.439
hammers, a wet sack of hammers, like it just it has no sense

1344
01:42:19.880 --> 01:42:24.439
for it has no sense for self
preservation other than al that hurts and hey,

1345
01:42:24.479 --> 01:42:29.439
I'm hungry, and that's it.
Yeah. So it's it's gulping down

1346
01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:34.159
what I assume is probably gasoline or
kerosene, probably, Yeah. And then

1347
01:42:34.520 --> 01:42:42.399
the uncle has his final Molotov and
as he goes to throw it, he

1348
01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:45.199
drops it. He fumbles, he
fumbles, the back slips out of his

1349
01:42:45.279 --> 01:42:51.800
hand, but it's still got some
of the fabric from the wick. The

1350
01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:57.439
wick, and it's still burning.
And that's when the antie comes up.

1351
01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.479
Well, but we don't see her. We just see an stabs the wick

1352
01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:06.039
and pull it up instantly, creating
fire arrow. I didn't need any guidance

1353
01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:09.760
to know what was happening. The
moment I saw the arrow stick into it,

1354
01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:15.439
I went jose, here for it, for it. Flaming arrows are

1355
01:43:15.520 --> 01:43:20.319
classic anyway, cool and super duper
cool. So she shoots it at the

1356
01:43:20.319 --> 01:43:26.880
creature. She finally doesn't hesitate.
She actually takes a shot, and it's

1357
01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:32.039
great because the arrow lands dead center
in its eye. Yeah, literal bull's

1358
01:43:32.039 --> 01:43:39.279
eye, and it's a bull,
it's a literal monsters. Fair fair,

1359
01:43:39.319 --> 01:43:45.119
I apologize, continue and uh,
obviously it goes up and flames instantaneously,

1360
01:43:46.359 --> 01:43:53.720
and it starts rolling around, and
you know, obviously it's an agonizing pain.

1361
01:43:53.880 --> 01:43:59.039
And that's when the dad comes and
he takes his spear thing and he

1362
01:43:59.199 --> 01:44:02.680
just bears it. Yes, And
I love the way they show him spirit

1363
01:44:02.760 --> 01:44:06.000
because he's holding it like like it's
pushing, and you can see him like

1364
01:44:06.039 --> 01:44:09.399
sliding back on his shoes. Yes, you know, his shoes are laying

1365
01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:15.239
back. And then when it stops
pushing and the back of the tube comes

1366
01:44:15.279 --> 01:44:17.439
off his hand. You see the
imprint because he had been it had been

1367
01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:24.840
pushing so hard initially, and now
it's not pushing at all because it may

1368
01:44:24.880 --> 01:44:29.560
have met its match. And that's
when I believe we look into the mouth

1369
01:44:29.600 --> 01:44:35.159
and see a little girl's hand gripping
on one of the teeth of the monster.

1370
01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:41.439
Yep. And when he pulls the
hand up, it's his daughter with

1371
01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:46.920
that little boy in her grip with
her other arm. She is motionless,

1372
01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:53.439
and so is the little boy.
Do you want to take it from there?

1373
01:44:55.199 --> 01:45:00.239
So she's motionless, so it's the
little boy. Yeah. And it

1374
01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:06.720
all starts kind of getting really chaotic
because that's when the government is finally releasing

1375
01:45:06.720 --> 01:45:11.800
that agent yellow. Yes, And
it does make the creature faint, yeah,

1376
01:45:11.800 --> 01:45:14.479
because then it wakes right back up. Yeah, it wakes right back

1377
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:21.680
up, and it starts convulsing and
shrieking and bellowing, and then fish start

1378
01:45:21.760 --> 01:45:26.960
popping off. It turns out that
it's made of a bunch of things,

1379
01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:30.880
so it's not just one creature.
It's like an amalgam of a whole bunch

1380
01:45:30.920 --> 01:45:41.960
of different fish, absolutely from the
Han River. So the family is there

1381
01:45:42.199 --> 01:45:49.119
and they kind of realize that JNS
has died, and the uncle and the

1382
01:45:49.159 --> 01:45:58.600
auntie are especially especially broken up over
it because they've they've done everything they could,

1383
01:45:58.720 --> 01:46:02.119
and they've sacrificed so much and they
still weren't able to save her.

1384
01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:08.600
But what's important is she died with
her family, and she didn't die in

1385
01:46:08.680 --> 01:46:12.680
vain because she saved this little kid's
life. And that was the thing that

1386
01:46:12.760 --> 01:46:15.279
hit me. Was like, when
I finally decided I had to ask you

1387
01:46:15.359 --> 01:46:19.159
if she was dead. I had
a feeling she was, I mean,

1388
01:46:19.199 --> 01:46:23.119
and not like right when. I
mean like it was after several minutes of

1389
01:46:23.119 --> 01:46:27.119
her not moving, I was like, is she dead? Was because I

1390
01:46:27.439 --> 01:46:29.479
wanted? I wasn't. I mean, it's a sad thing, but I

1391
01:46:29.479 --> 01:46:30.439
would. That was the reaction I
had. I was like, but she

1392
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:34.800
died with her family around, Like, she died with all of them together.

1393
01:46:35.159 --> 01:46:42.319
Yea. And they got that goddamn
creature for crossing their family. You

1394
01:46:42.359 --> 01:46:45.560
know, this is like some deep
seated old world honor stuff. Oh yeah,

1395
01:46:45.920 --> 01:46:50.960
you know, just just filtered through
a modern Korean lens. Oh absolutely,

1396
01:46:50.960 --> 01:46:54.800
oh ye modern enough. I mean
two thousand and seven was like eighty

1397
01:46:54.840 --> 01:46:58.600
seven years ago, one hundred and
seven. Thank you, I'm sorry.

1398
01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:08.720
I always loose tracked, So yeah, it's all pretty emotional. But then

1399
01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:13.760
we kind of fade too. It
seems like maybe six months later because it's

1400
01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:16.479
the middle of winter, and and
I apologize the kids. We glance over.

1401
01:47:16.520 --> 01:47:20.720
We had it confirmed that the little
boy did did survive, and and

1402
01:47:20.920 --> 01:47:25.359
the dad notices that, yeah,
and he I believe. He goes to

1403
01:47:25.399 --> 01:47:30.359
check him and he asks if she
if he knew his daughter yep. And

1404
01:47:30.359 --> 01:47:33.520
then then we fade what you hit
your mic thing? Huh? Why don't

1405
01:47:33.600 --> 01:47:38.720
even give you all this nice expensive
gear if you're just gonna knock it around?

1406
01:47:38.840 --> 01:47:42.640
Oh? I just breaking things?
But no. So so now we

1407
01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:47.439
fade to a beautiful snowy night on
the Han River, I mean nearby the

1408
01:47:47.439 --> 01:47:55.000
Han River, and we're inside and
this is this is where the movie made

1409
01:47:55.039 --> 01:47:59.640
me fall in love with it.
This is where I so spoiler now I

1410
01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:02.279
can tell you this movie became possibly
one of my favorite movies of all time,

1411
01:48:02.279 --> 01:48:08.640
and I only saw it like four
days ago. Inside of the snack

1412
01:48:09.079 --> 01:48:16.760
hut, we see the father and
the little boy and it is cozy and

1413
01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:23.319
homie in the shack food is being
prepared. They just close. They do

1414
01:48:23.359 --> 01:48:26.640
have that little tease moment where he
has a gun where he like looks over

1415
01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:29.600
at the water and he has like
the gun ready, and then it's nothing.

1416
01:48:29.600 --> 01:48:35.680
So he closes the shack and the
television is on and I'm getting goosebumps.

1417
01:48:36.720 --> 01:48:42.760
And when he looks at the TV, he sees that they're reporting on

1418
01:48:42.880 --> 01:48:46.439
like what there's been a full investigation
of all the ps that's happened and what

1419
01:48:46.600 --> 01:48:51.039
really happened. And as it's playing, the little kid he's like, do

1420
01:48:51.079 --> 01:48:53.960
you want to watch this or you
want to watch something else? And little

1421
01:48:54.039 --> 01:48:56.760
kids like, let's just not watch
TV. Let's focus on eating. Which

1422
01:48:56.800 --> 01:49:00.800
I just love that line because there's
an earlier Part two. There's so much

1423
01:49:00.840 --> 01:49:02.319
to talk about in this movie.
It's easy to miss something where he had

1424
01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:06.720
mentioned that his dream would be to
live in a snackshack he made. He

1425
01:49:06.760 --> 01:49:10.039
says, it's like I would live
here if I could live anywhere. Yeah,

1426
01:49:10.039 --> 01:49:12.039
because it's just full of all He's
like, you eat all the ramen

1427
01:49:12.079 --> 01:49:14.279
you want, you can eat all
the blah blah blah. So yeah,

1428
01:49:14.319 --> 01:49:16.720
he literally tells his dad to his
new father, like let's just concentrate on

1429
01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:20.800
eating our food, So he shuts
the TV off. They start eating their

1430
01:49:20.840 --> 01:49:29.399
noodles and dumplings and everything like that, and the movie ends. And this

1431
01:49:29.479 --> 01:49:33.119
is an element of storytelling and film
that I've been talking about for a very

1432
01:49:33.199 --> 01:49:41.520
long time, and that is the
way a film ends tells you everything about

1433
01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:45.119
what you just watched. Yeah,
the fact that they just a television set

1434
01:49:45.199 --> 01:49:49.000
is literally telling us what happened with
the monster and the government stuff and all

1435
01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:53.199
that stuff. They just shut off
the TV. They don't care because it

1436
01:49:53.239 --> 01:49:58.920
didn't matter. It didn't because the
story wasn't about that. The story was

1437
01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:06.520
about family, opportunity, and about
how life has a way of working out.

1438
01:50:08.039 --> 01:50:10.359
Yeah, at least that's what I
got from it. I don't know.

1439
01:50:10.600 --> 01:50:13.720
I don't know about you. Well, I definitely think that it's about

1440
01:50:13.800 --> 01:50:20.359
family, and I think that it's
about not only does life have a way

1441
01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:27.319
of just working out, but sometimes
the people that we take for granted the

1442
01:50:27.319 --> 01:50:32.359
most in our lives are also the
people that are there for us. And

1443
01:50:32.439 --> 01:50:36.640
it's really easy, especially when it's
family, but it's really easy to just

1444
01:50:36.760 --> 01:50:39.840
kind of be like, Ah,
that's just my brother, or oh,

1445
01:50:39.880 --> 01:50:43.199
that's just my annoying sister. That's
just my dad or my mom, and

1446
01:50:43.239 --> 01:50:46.680
then you realize, like, no, they've they've got your back the whole

1447
01:50:46.680 --> 01:50:51.479
step of the way, and that's
kind of an important lesson. And you

1448
01:50:51.520 --> 01:50:55.640
know what, I'm gonna I'm gonna
do something we don't usually do because I

1449
01:50:55.640 --> 01:50:59.680
feel like we need a little bit
more time to really get into what we

1450
01:50:59.800 --> 01:51:01.359
think of the movie now. So
we're gonna go to a quick break.

1451
01:51:01.399 --> 01:51:04.399
It'll be the last one of the
episode, and then we can spend the

1452
01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:08.760
remainder of however long we want just
talking about this because I also want to

1453
01:51:08.760 --> 01:51:12.960
talk a little bit about the background
and history and what Boon Jong ho has

1454
01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:15.159
said about the film. So we're
going to take a quick break. Please

1455
01:51:15.239 --> 01:51:17.840
stick around. We would love to
just talk about this a little bit more,

1456
01:51:18.159 --> 01:51:33.600
and we'll be right back. So
you were saying that you felt like

1457
01:51:34.079 --> 01:51:39.479
the movie was about family and finding
family and stuff like that. Please continue

1458
01:51:39.479 --> 01:51:42.560
with your thought. I didn't.
I didn't want to up, but I

1459
01:51:42.680 --> 01:51:47.760
just you kind of notice at the
beginning of the movie how the three siblings

1460
01:51:47.880 --> 01:51:54.199
all really take each other for granted, and then by the end of the

1461
01:51:54.239 --> 01:51:59.680
final showdown, whether they know it
or not. They're all working toward each

1462
01:51:59.680 --> 01:52:03.760
other strengths and weaknesses, and the
only way that they're able to defeat the

1463
01:52:03.800 --> 01:52:09.520
monster is when instead of like dogging
on each other all the time, or

1464
01:52:10.720 --> 01:52:14.199
in fighting amongst each other, or
in the sister's case, the sister would

1465
01:52:14.199 --> 01:52:18.439
just like totally pull herself away,
when they would put all of that stuff

1466
01:52:18.479 --> 01:52:26.640
aside and actually work together, they
were actually able to not only defeat their

1467
01:52:26.680 --> 01:52:32.920
common enemy and accomplish their goal,
but also defeat an enemy that the government

1468
01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:39.520
was having a hard time defeating.
Yeah, so I think that's I think

1469
01:52:39.600 --> 01:52:45.760
that's just a very interesting, just
an interesting theme that the movie had throughout

1470
01:52:45.800 --> 01:52:49.439
it. Yeah, no, I
agree, And that's and that's like to

1471
01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:53.119
go back to my point about like
how the movie ends tells you what the

1472
01:52:53.119 --> 01:52:58.560
story really was. The story was
about these people being a family, including

1473
01:52:58.600 --> 01:53:01.039
the people who didn't even know each
other until the end of the events exactly,

1474
01:53:01.399 --> 01:53:06.359
you know, and how a good
father will be a good father even

1475
01:53:06.359 --> 01:53:09.880
if they lose their daughter. You
know, in a way, he was

1476
01:53:09.960 --> 01:53:14.600
carrying his daughter's wish, which was
to help this kid exactly, and in

1477
01:53:14.760 --> 01:53:18.119
doing that gave the kid a dream. And the kid is very like he

1478
01:53:18.279 --> 01:53:24.279
was. Yeah, so it's very
simpatico and beautiful. And I wanted to

1479
01:53:24.319 --> 01:53:28.439
talk a little bit about the fact
that this movie had a lot of people

1480
01:53:28.479 --> 01:53:32.920
talk about the politics of it,
and Boong jong ho had some interesting points.

1481
01:53:33.239 --> 01:53:36.479
So this will probably shock you to
hear, Rachel, But you know

1482
01:53:38.239 --> 01:53:48.640
where this film was highly touted as
brilliant where North Korea? Really because they

1483
01:53:48.920 --> 01:53:55.239
louded it in North Korea because it
was so critical of the United States.

1484
01:53:55.640 --> 01:54:00.159
Okay, I mean it was though. Boong Jongo said, when you look

1485
01:54:00.199 --> 01:54:02.439
in this is a quote, when
you look in terms of this way,

1486
01:54:02.479 --> 01:54:06.520
I'm sorry I lost by any spot, he said, quote. It's a

1487
01:54:06.560 --> 01:54:12.039
stretch to simplify the host as an
anti American film, but there is certainly

1488
01:54:12.039 --> 01:54:16.520
a metaphor and political commentary about the
United States, which, hell yeah,

1489
01:54:16.560 --> 01:54:20.760
A lot of this comes down to
the fact that America has been so heavily

1490
01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:27.039
involved in Korea since the Korean War
and Vietnam, but especially Korean War.

1491
01:54:28.399 --> 01:54:30.600
But I didn't know this until I
was researching. Did you know that the

1492
01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:35.359
film was inspired by an incident in
two thousand where a Korean mortician working for

1493
01:54:35.359 --> 01:54:40.239
the US military and Soul reported that
he was ordered to dump a large amount

1494
01:54:40.239 --> 01:54:45.399
of ramelda hide down the drain.
No. In addition to the environmental concerns,

1495
01:54:45.439 --> 01:54:49.079
this caused some antagonism toward the United
States. The American military station in

1496
01:54:49.159 --> 01:54:55.840
South Korea had to kind of deal
with that nightmare. And that's why in

1497
01:54:55.840 --> 01:54:59.399
the film, their portrayed is uncaring
about the effects of their activities on the

1498
01:54:59.399 --> 01:55:02.479
locals. And then there there is
a lot of reference effect that it was

1499
01:55:02.600 --> 01:55:06.800
very clearly Agent yellow was a thinly
veiled reference to agent orange, which,

1500
01:55:06.840 --> 01:55:13.199
for those who don't know, was
a biochemical that was sprayed all over the

1501
01:55:13.359 --> 01:55:17.760
jungle in Vietnam because I believe it
was a herbicide. It would it would

1502
01:55:17.840 --> 01:55:21.560
kill the jungle, so you could
find as you get through it. I

1503
01:55:21.560 --> 01:55:25.039
think it was to transport things.
Don't quote me on that. I don't

1504
01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:28.840
know everything about Asian orange, but
it turned out that it gives people cancer

1505
01:55:29.800 --> 01:55:34.079
misothelioma in particular, but lots and
lots of different illnesses, and yeah,

1506
01:55:34.159 --> 01:55:41.880
so that's something that's really important.
And and something that the director brought up

1507
01:55:41.880 --> 01:55:45.720
that I had not thought of is
that he mentioned that the film uh satirically

1508
01:55:45.760 --> 01:55:49.000
portrays the government as bureaucratic, inept
and essentially uncaring in Korea, in South

1509
01:55:49.079 --> 01:55:53.600
Korea. But he also, if
you really look at it, he depicts

1510
01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:59.520
the youth protesters satirically as well as
partially heroic and partially self self righteous and

1511
01:55:59.560 --> 01:56:01.840
oblivion. Yeah, and I do
agree. I don't feel like this movie

1512
01:56:01.920 --> 01:56:06.000
has a side at all. Is
just ready to sock anyone in the jaw

1513
01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:10.399
who's stupid enough to get in its
way, you know, and which I

1514
01:56:10.439 --> 01:56:15.199
love that. I love that so
much. And there was something else I

1515
01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:19.399
found which I wanted to dig into
a little bit, So a little bit

1516
01:56:19.439 --> 01:56:25.800
more about that that incident. Now
I assume this is true. It's on

1517
01:56:25.880 --> 01:56:29.319
IMDb, so it could be a
lie, but it talks a little bit

1518
01:56:29.359 --> 01:56:32.880
more about the February two thousand incident
in Soul, Korea at the US military

1519
01:56:32.920 --> 01:56:39.319
base, where a US military civilian
employee named mister McFarland was ordered to dispose

1520
01:56:39.319 --> 01:56:43.399
of rameldehyde by dumping it into the
sewer system that led to the Han River.

1521
01:56:43.800 --> 01:56:48.680
Despite the injection of the South Korean
subordinate. The government attempted to prosecute

1522
01:56:48.720 --> 01:56:54.680
mister McFarland in court, but the
US military refused to hand over custody of

1523
01:56:54.720 --> 01:56:59.520
mister McFarland to the pub to the
south, to the South Korean legal system.

1524
01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:01.159
That is quite I mean, this
is the year two thousand, so

1525
01:57:01.199 --> 01:57:04.800
this is before nine to eleven.
This is when our foreign policy was actually

1526
01:57:04.880 --> 01:57:10.399
doing okay. And I mean that's
not saying much, but I was doing

1527
01:57:10.479 --> 01:57:15.159
fine compared to now and that.
But that's pretty big to have somebody commit

1528
01:57:15.239 --> 01:57:18.800
and act like that and then not
hand them over to the legal systems.

1529
01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:23.000
Yeah, I mean I get it, he's in the military and they're like,

1530
01:57:23.079 --> 01:57:27.159
nah, like it was on our
base ts. But to not hand

1531
01:57:27.239 --> 01:57:30.720
him over, to not even try
to just get them to slap him on

1532
01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:33.119
the wrist, to be like,
we'll hand him over, but we need

1533
01:57:33.119 --> 01:57:36.960
to you gotta say that you're not
gonna like, you know that he's gonna

1534
01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:40.720
get like six months, yeah,
you know, and then you're gonna count

1535
01:57:40.720 --> 01:57:43.840
it as time served, Like we'll
let you slap him on the wrist to

1536
01:57:43.880 --> 01:57:49.600
show that, like we respect your
legal system. Nah nah, nah nah.

1537
01:57:49.640 --> 01:57:56.680
But the government attempted to prosecute him
refuse to give custody. Later,

1538
01:57:56.760 --> 01:58:02.079
a South Korean judge convicted mister McFarland
in Epps sentia. The public was enraged

1539
01:58:02.119 --> 01:58:08.720
at the government's inability to enforce its
law on its own soil. In two

1540
01:58:08.760 --> 01:58:13.319
thousand and five, nearly five years
after the original incident, mister McFarland was

1541
01:58:13.359 --> 01:58:18.680
finally found guilty in a court in
his presence. However, he never served

1542
01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:23.720
the prison sentence, and there have
been no sightings of a mutant creature in

1543
01:58:23.800 --> 01:58:30.159
the Han River yet. So that's
the that's the true story that inspired it,

1544
01:58:30.159 --> 01:58:35.000
and it makes sense you've got an
international incident. I've always I mean,

1545
01:58:35.079 --> 01:58:39.159
I've always said that one of the
reasons America, I mean, I'm

1546
01:58:39.199 --> 01:58:41.520
the one who came up with this, but like, one of the reasons

1547
01:58:41.560 --> 01:58:45.600
that America has some rocky foreign relations
is because we have so many military bases

1548
01:58:45.840 --> 01:58:48.199
in so many places. And it's
a double edged sword. On one hand,

1549
01:58:48.279 --> 01:58:50.800
you know, we shouldn't be there
on on the other hand, a

1550
01:58:50.800 --> 01:58:56.680
lot of these countries benefit massively from
having our military might protecting them. In

1551
01:58:56.720 --> 01:58:59.359
fact, a lot of Europe,
Man, I'm talking about a lot of

1552
01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:01.479
weird politics stuff. I usually like
like like I'm fascinating about this kind of

1553
01:59:01.479 --> 01:59:05.239
stuff. But in Europe, many
nations, their defense budgets are so low

1554
01:59:05.359 --> 01:59:10.399
because they have American military bases.
So it's like, why bothered? Yeah,

1555
01:59:10.439 --> 01:59:15.039
like you can't outdo us, so
I mean we're already there. So

1556
01:59:15.079 --> 01:59:19.880
anyway, I yeah, I love
this film. It really hit me in

1557
01:59:19.920 --> 01:59:26.640
the heart. It really made me
feel all of the feelings, and I

1558
01:59:26.680 --> 01:59:29.119
do think it's one of my favorite
movies ever. I ordered the Blu ray

1559
01:59:29.720 --> 01:59:34.079
before the credits were done, rolling
Ye, and it's a It's a heartfelt,

1560
01:59:34.600 --> 01:59:41.359
soulful monster movie about what really matters
in life, which is which is

1561
01:59:41.520 --> 01:59:48.760
people and family, not bureaucracies and
mutants not mutants a little bit okay,

1562
01:59:48.840 --> 01:59:54.680
smidgeon of mutants. But what about
you? I've talked a lot about this

1563
01:59:54.680 --> 01:59:56.880
this part. What about you?
What do you take from the movie?

1564
01:59:56.880 --> 01:59:59.399
What do you feel about the movie? I want, I want to hear

1565
01:59:59.439 --> 02:00:02.880
it. Well, it's definitely one
of my favorites. It's one of the

1566
02:00:02.920 --> 02:00:06.880
ones that when I was working at
Hollywood Video, when I got done watching

1567
02:00:06.880 --> 02:00:10.680
it, like I said, I
watched it, you know, like one

1568
02:00:10.760 --> 02:00:15.560
or two more times that weekend because
I just couldn't get enough. And I

1569
02:00:16.520 --> 02:00:23.920
love it because it does clearly have
the political undertones, but it's not screaming

1570
02:00:23.960 --> 02:00:29.359
it at you sure. That's not
necessarily the point of the movie. It's

1571
02:00:29.399 --> 02:00:32.600
just the backdrop of the movie,
and I really appreciate that because it gives

1572
02:00:32.600 --> 02:00:39.399
it so much depth. And I
love all of the characters. Pretty much,

1573
02:00:39.439 --> 02:00:43.039
every character that gets more than like
one scene gets a full arc,

1574
02:00:43.439 --> 02:00:48.159
and you really get to learn what
they're all about exactly. You really get

1575
02:00:48.199 --> 02:00:53.920
invested in them. So I think
that it was amazing storytelling from that angle,

1576
02:00:54.600 --> 02:01:00.239
because you've got just such great characters. Yeah, and I just I

1577
02:01:00.279 --> 02:01:02.880
hope everyone sees this movie. I
think it's one of those movies that,

1578
02:01:03.119 --> 02:01:06.039
you know, if you're a hardcore
horror fan, I think you're still going

1579
02:01:06.079 --> 02:01:11.159
to get a lot out of it
because there are some genuinely creepy and spooky

1580
02:01:11.239 --> 02:01:15.479
and scary parts. If you're,
you know, just a person who just

1581
02:01:15.680 --> 02:01:19.079
likes movies, I think you're still
going to enjoy it because it's such a

1582
02:01:19.159 --> 02:01:25.800
solid flick. I think that everyone
would enjoy it. I would have to

1583
02:01:25.840 --> 02:01:29.479
agree. And I also want to
mention that it did. It was the

1584
02:01:29.520 --> 02:01:36.960
most successful theatrical film in South Korean
history. It sold several million tickets nice

1585
02:01:38.600 --> 02:01:41.520
according to this In early September,
the film became South Korea's all time box

1586
02:01:41.560 --> 02:01:45.119
office leaders, selling more than twelve
point three million tickets and just over a

1587
02:01:45.199 --> 02:01:51.119
month in a country of forty eight
point five million people. Wow. By

1588
02:01:51.159 --> 02:01:55.840
the end of its run in November
eighth, the viewing figures came in at

1589
02:01:55.880 --> 02:02:01.279
thirteen million, nineteen thousand, seven
hundred and forty TAM. That is a

1590
02:02:01.359 --> 02:02:06.880
spicy meatball. Spicy meatball indeed.
Yeah, I love the movie and I

1591
02:02:06.920 --> 02:02:15.880
want to mention Boom Chong ho has
this incredible poetic kind of flourish in how

1592
02:02:15.880 --> 02:02:19.479
he tells stories, especially visually.
He doesn't just show you instead of telling

1593
02:02:19.479 --> 02:02:24.560
you, He shows you in like
a poet's way that I think is really

1594
02:02:24.600 --> 02:02:29.000
great. And I think this is
a movie you'll really enjoy, especially if

1595
02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:31.760
you want, you know, have
an interesting family, and a lot of

1596
02:02:31.760 --> 02:02:35.760
people do have interesting families. Not
everybody's like you, Rachel, you know,

1597
02:02:36.800 --> 02:02:41.960
but no, like if you have
an interesting or complicated family dynamic,

1598
02:02:42.399 --> 02:02:45.199
then this movie is going to hit
home in a good way, I think,

1599
02:02:45.720 --> 02:02:51.159
because you know, I couldn't believe
that this movie could kill the little

1600
02:02:51.199 --> 02:02:58.239
girl and leave you feeling relatively good
at the end. Yeah, Yeah,

1601
02:02:58.840 --> 02:03:05.119
very impressive, ry ballsy. I
don't know. I loved it. Oh

1602
02:03:05.199 --> 02:03:11.479
yeah, and I wish I was
a little bit more concise, but I

1603
02:03:11.520 --> 02:03:17.159
am exhausted and haven't been feeling well
today. Now I admit it at the

1604
02:03:17.239 --> 02:03:20.520
end. If you're actually listened this
far in, let's record for thirty more

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minutes. Okay, fine, So
okay, So back to heels on stars.

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I've been watching that wrestling show.
No, but no, I really

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wanted to sit down and talk about
this movie because I really think it's one

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worth your time. So if you
have max freaking watch it, yeah,

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do yourself a favor, and then
see Parasite if you haven't already, because

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that's an them That's not a horror
movie. That's just a melodrama with a

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lot of great comedy in there too. So but I loved it, and

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I really appreciate you guys tuning in
to cutting deep into horror. And I'm

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so glad Rache that you have joined
me on the show. I feel like

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we've been having a really good time
watching and talking about silly movies. Mebe

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medium good time and we're going to
talk about a lot more soon. And

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do you want to patch yourself on
the back one last time that this was

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your pick, and I had never
even seen it before. Yeah, I'm

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I'm you gotta admit I'm pretty great. I'm pretty great sometimes. I mean

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I made I cooked dinner. Yeah, that's right. So so I went

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on that one. But anything else
you want to say before we get ready

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to leave this place, just don't
step on any bones on your way out.

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I'll take it, okay. Cutting
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Yeah, stay out on the sewer, don't step on any bones. Audio set