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All right, so that's pretty much the place. Here are
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the keys, and yeah, it's just a simple late night
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shift the last one. And yeah, any questions.
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For you several? Why are all the doors locked? And
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could you possibly explain why there's blood everywhere?
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Okay, well, as far as the door locks go, it's
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all about well not to reference and get ahead of
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myself with your second question, but it seems like you're
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kind of a safety minded person. So all the doors
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are locked. It's really it's really just that simple.
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Okay. The blood though, and you know, general human, it's dry,
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it's all dry. Well okay, yeah.
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I assure you it's dry.
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Yeah, okay, good, good.
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Yeah, So any other questions that is great, don't even
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worry about a thing. And because we know you like
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to focus on your work. You're very talented. The phone
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lines don't work, they don't go anywhere. Cell phones don't
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work here either, But just to be safe, I actually
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already have your phone in my How did you get that?
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If you need anything at wait, just stick it out
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to the end and then it'll go very very well.
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Oh me too.
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This podcast is about why horror scares us, What deep,
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dark secret scary cinema shines a light on The discussions
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are frank and involve conversations about abuse, trauma, and mental health.
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There are also spoilers, so keep that in mind too. Now,
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sharpen your machetes and straight raisers, because this is Cutting
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Deep into Horror.
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Hello, my spookies, and welcome back to Cutting Deep into Horror.
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We took a little bit of a of a i'll
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call it a siesta.
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Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
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We took a hot inte off. Well, life got awfully
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complicated for both of us for quite a while.
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Yeah, as it does.
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Yeah, so after the Christmas season, we just every time
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we wanted to do an episode. My response, well, every
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time you wanted to do an episode, Rachel. By the way,
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this is Rachel Rudolphie, my good friend, my partner in crime,
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and my co host right here on Cutting Deep into Horror.
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Yeah, still here. You can't get rid of me that easy.
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Not easily at all. But no, every time you would
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be like, hey, we should do a Cutting Deep I'd
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be like, I just want to relax.
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Yeah. Well, and because I would even be like, oh, well,
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you know, if we schedule it like three weeks out
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and then we could we could record one, and you're like,
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or we could not do that and.
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Rest or at least I could rest. You could run
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on a hamster wheel for all I care. That's that's
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your business. But I needed some nappy naps.
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Yeah.
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So but we are back as promised for the Halloween season,
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and with full intent to keep it rolling and rolling.
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We're going to do something very special for the holiday
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season as well.
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Yeah.
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But I'm very excited because this is the weekend before Halloween,
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the hollow weekend. Ah, if you will, and we will,
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We definitely will. And I'm so excited because tonight we're
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talking about a film I discovered kind of totally randomly
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on at the time Netflix, a little film called Last
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Shift from twenty fourteen. And I've been singing this film's
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praises for years, ever since I first watched it, and
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I'd been bringing up wanting to show you it since
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earlier this year. In fact, the Blu Ray, which turned
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out to be scratched to shit, that I bought on Amazon,
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so we had we had to rent it or buy
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it on Amazon to watch it through digital streaming. I
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had bought that in March, so that's how long I'd
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been thinking. I really wanted to show you it. So,
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but this is a film not quite like any other.
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While borrowing many interesting tropes and concepts from films, you know,
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ranging from you know, alone late at night kind of
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films to haunting and exorcism type films, it borrows a
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lot in a good way. It borrows great stuff from
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other films. It also really kind of set itself apart
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in my opinion. This is again, like I said from
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twenty fourteen, it is directed and co written by Anthony
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de Blossi, who I don't believe had done anything I
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had seen prior to that, but now I should double
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check he had directed. Oh no, actually that is a lie.
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I forgot about this. No, this is going to make
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things even more interesting. He directed a little film in
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two thousand and nine called Dread, which I hated. That's
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why I got a smirk on my face when I
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looked at this thing. I'm like, oh, because I'm going
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to be singing his praises this entire show. He did
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an amazing job in this movie. Did not care for Dread,
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did not like it very much. If I remember correctly,
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it was based loosely on a Clive Barker story. Yeah,
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it was based on a short story by Clive Barker.
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It was well made and well directed. It had a
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really dour ending that I felt like wasn't earned. I'm
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very it is very hard to make me happy with
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a downbeat ending, because there's a very big difference. There
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was a time when it was novel. Yeah, you never
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saw an unhappy ending, or if you did, you'd be
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like whoa. But now it's cliche. So a lot of
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times if I see a really great movie and it
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has a downbeat ending that wasn't even hard to get to,
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my first thought is like, oh, so you're too lazy
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to figure out how the good guys could win, huh,
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or how they could at least place. Yeah, you know,
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and unfortunately with dread and maybe I'd like it if
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I revisited it. That's how I felt. The moment it ended,
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I went, oh, I hate this movie. But he also
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directed a movie called The Profane Exhibit. No, he did
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a segment in The Profane Exhibit which I really liked.
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The horror anthology that one was really good. He did
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a movie called Missionary. I had not seen Last Shift
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which I obviously loved, Most Likely to Die in twenty fifteen,
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which I really liked, Wuthering High School, which I had
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not seen, in a movie called Extremity, which I have
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been meaning to see, and then of course Mallem, which
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we'll talk about a little bit more later, which is
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a remake of Last Shift, which he did just shy
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of ten years later. Okay, so I consider him a
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very talented director, but Last Shift is my favorite thing
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he's done, without a doubt. And it stars Julianna Harcavey
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or hark Cavey. I'm not sure you'd say it, but
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she is damn near the whole show.
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Oh yeah, well, and she carries it so well.
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She is easily sixty percent of what makes the movie great,
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oh yeah, because she's so so good.
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and reactions to the spooky that is happening around her.
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lacking in any way, then the movie would not have worked.
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of her just looking around and like glancing, and you're like, man,
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I like I'm right there with her, I'm I'm you know,
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really getting into it.
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of the audience's perspective. It makes a very big difference
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in horror films in particular. I remember when I read
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Lloyd Coffin the you know, creator of the Toxic Avenger.
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When I read his book as a teenager, Lloyd even
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mentioned that when the special effects don't work out the
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way you want them to, which is often the case
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with his films, he said that one of the greatest
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things was if an actor was good and they saw
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the monster and react legitimately scared. It helped the audience
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believe enough to stay on board, as opposed to if
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the actors had walked on set on stage and just
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like looked when the camera roll just went what is that?
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scare people, get people invested. So before we dive into
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this and start spoiling the ever loving hell out of it.
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For those who've never heard Cutting Deep into Horror, this
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is a show where Rachel and I sit down and
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we just dissect heavily horror films that scare us legitimately,
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especially as I mean, I wouldn't call myself a jaded
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horror movie fan, but I'm certainly experienced in horror movies.
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So when a horror movie makes me uneasy or nervous
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or makes me jump a lot, it stands out and
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rightfully so. And I think that there isn't enough focus
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on the movies that really scare us, because in the
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horror realm there's so much fun too, you know, like
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This Friday the Thirteenth Part two really scare me, really,
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but is it a blast ll Yes, And there's plenty
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of movies like that that I love. But when a
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movie kind of gets into your brain and creeps you
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out and makes you think about it afterward, that is
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where it gets fun. So if you've never heard us before,
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you can head to Weeklyspooky dot com and under episodes
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there's actually a playlist that has just all of the
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cutting deep into horror episodes. We cover a lot of
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great films. This one, again before we spoil the hell
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out of it, is not available to stream anywhere for free. Unfortunately,
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I usually try to pick films that are, but I
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really wanted to talk about this one, and frankly, after
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doing thirty one shows in October, I have earned the
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right to just bs about one of my favorite films.
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But it is available to rent, whether on Amazon Prime
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or Fandango, Voodoo or wherever you rent movies. For three
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ninety nine, you can rent it. I highly recommend you do.
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But with that all being said, Rachel's one of my
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favorite people to dissect the undertones of films, because when
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we first started watching a lot of movies together, you
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would write these Facebook posts after you'd left my house
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and I would read them intently and be like woo,
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things to me? And then one day I was like,
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I'm gonna put a microphone in front of your face
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and get some labor out of you.
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Yeah, apparently that's the secret, is just put the microphone
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in front of me and then I won't shut up.
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So that I mean, I mean, it works on me.
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So we're gonna dive deep and talk all about the
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last shift after these quick words and we're back. Now
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we're gonna head into the last shift. So I want
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to tell you. I told you a little bit about
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this before, but I want to tell you the story
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of how I first saw this movie because it'll give
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you a nice chuckle. People think, you know, hey, Marique Kuto,
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he's the guy. He's directed all these horror movies. He
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watches horror movies all the time. Now I've had Weekly
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Spooky for six years. You know, nothing must scare him.
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That is so far from the truth. I am such
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an easy audience for scares. I get scared so so easily,
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deeply easily. I and that's why. But I love to
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be scared. In fact, I've even leaned into going to
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haunts and stuff because I'm like, no, I do like
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the way that scared me. When I was younger, I
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thought I didn't like it, and now I'm like, nah,
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I want I want to go be chased by the
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guy with a chainsaw. You know, it's making eighty dollars
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a night. So but when I first saw Last Shift,
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somebody on Facebook had said like, wow, I just watched
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this movie on Netflix and it really blew my mind.
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I really enjoyed it, and I was like, ooh, I
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have Netflix and I have nothing to do. It was
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like a Thursday night or something, so I put it
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on and I was laying on my couch and I
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started getting drowsy. This is maybe a year after the
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film came outs maybe twenty fifteen twenty sixteen. Started getting drowsy,
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so I nodded off. And the movie does have a
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slow build. It's very quiet in the beginning, which really works.
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and I woke back up right at one of the
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biggest scares the in the first half of the film.
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It was such a big scare that I paused the movie,
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got up and did a thing I do when movies
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scare me really bad when I'm watching them by myself.
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When I'm with other people, you can kind of spread
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the fear out and kind of, you know, like you
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kind of like it's pretty scary, right, and then somebody goes, yeah,
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you go, okay, we'll just keep watching. But when I'm
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by myself, I'll be like, well, I'm gonna pause. I'm
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just gonna walk around the house a minute, maybe turn
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on some lights. I turned on most of the lights,
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like all the lights in the living room and the
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kitchen and the hallway, and then I sat back down
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and I put it back on, and I actually actually
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I rewound it maybe fifteen minutes because I was like,
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but I'll never forget that scene because it scared me
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out of a dead sleep and just my heart was racing.
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So but yeah, So take it away, Rach. Where do
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you want to Where do you want to start with
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the last shift?
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Well, I guess we'll start at the beginning. That's generally
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a good place to start.
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Well, the first thing that I like is the the
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amount of visual storytelling and showing not telling that they
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give you. Just straight off to bat yea. So it
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opens up. We see a police station, we see a
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cop car, and then we see a woman in the
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cop car and she's getting a call on her cell phone,
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and so that just sets it up perfectly. Woman picks
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up up the phone and it's her mom, and we
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kind of get through the conversation that her mom is
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especially worried because this is her very first shift on
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duty as a like act of duty cop, and even worse,
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her father had just last year been involved in something
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we don't know, but involved in something as a police officer,
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and now her mom is extract or worried for her.
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I don't know if they actually make it clear. I
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think they intentionally leave it murky as to when her father.
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we do know like it was recent enough that they're
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both still shaken up by it.
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I mean, she literally says, like most police officers never
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see any action at all, and she goes, you know,
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except your father, and she's like mom, and she's like,
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I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that, and where are
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my manners? It's been a while since I've done this.
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The basic, very basic storyline is a young woman on
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her first first day as a cop, has to take
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care of the last shift at a d at a
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nearly decommissioned police station. It's the last night that that
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police station will legally be considered a police station. But
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there's a brand new station down the block, and all
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she's supposed to do is just guard it because she's
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a cop and they need someone to guard it. And
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that's I mean, that really is the long and the
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short of it. Yeah, so it is a recipe for eerie,
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eerie shit exactly. So anyway, so, yeah, she's in the car.
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And in the car talking with her mom, and you know,
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she goes into the station and at first it seems
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like the station's totally empty, and then we hear like
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a ruckus down the hall, and you know, she's on
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edge because it's late. It well you know, not super late,
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but it's dark and she is alone in a station is.
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Empty building, and big empty buildings are creepy.
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Definitely, they're super creepy. So she she hears this ruckus
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and then she sees someone down the hall and he's
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like screaming and hollering and banging on the walls, and uh,
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he kind of comes out. He's still in the shadows,
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but he starts yelling at her, like really gruff, like
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what are you doing? What are you doing here? And
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she's like, you know, I'm just here for my first shift.
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And he says, turn around, and so she does and
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she starts to walk away and he says, no, I
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didn't tell you to walk away. I said turn around.
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Yeah, And so.
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That I loved that because it was the movie giving
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you the rules of the game. And I think we've
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we've kind of discussed this a little bit here and
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there with with other movies, but with horror movies, they
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always they have set rules. Yeah, and a good horror movie,
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the ones that we try to cover will kind of
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give you the rules within the first act, so that
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the last two acts you know exactly what rules they're
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working with, and you also know what rules they're going
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to be breaking if they do ever break those rules.
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So the rule that they are setting up is that
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there's stuff happening in the backgrounds, you need to pay attention. Yes, yes, definitely,
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and never trust it when the camera pans away and
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then PAMs back.
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Yeah, yeah, the camera is a lying son of a bitches.
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Do not trust that camera in.
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The best way possible. Yeah. Well, And one of the
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things that it establishes that's really smart is we're we're
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we're learning who the main character is as a person.
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So obviously she's close with her mother. We learn very
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quickly that she's not the first person in law enforcement
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in her family, and that there may have been a
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lot of strife involved in her decision to become law enforcement.
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But now we're seeing that she's got that uniform on.
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But she's absolutely not ready, No, because what does she
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do when a stranger starts giving her orders? She takes them.
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She's a cop, she shouldn't be doing that. But of
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course she is a rookie cop and I'm not saying
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that she's not built for it, but she's certainly not ready. Yeah,
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and luckily we find out that this guy is a
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cop yees, a commanding officer.
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It's Sergeant Cohen.
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Yeah, Sergeant Cohen.
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So's he's there to kind of like brief her on
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what her what her shift is going to be like.
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And it's such a it's I love Sergeant Cohen because
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whatever you expect out of him, he's going to do
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the exact opposite. So at first, you know, we're introduced
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to him and he's gruff, and he's mean, and he's
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violent because he's like slamming doors and like punching the walls.
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And then he's like really mean to Officer Lauren. But
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then he immediately like starts cracking jokes like the very
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next thing. So he starts showing her around, and one
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thing he said is you know where back there, that
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end of the hall that's the containment cells. You don't
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need to go there. Don't go there.
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He's showing her the few places she'll need to be. Yeah,
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he's like, you won't have to go back there because
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you're not going to arrest anybody tonight, so don't even
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worry about it.
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So and he's like, you know, there's the room where
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you break room, so when you get bored, you can
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go microwave something and then you know, have a break
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and you know there's where we keep you know, all
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of the records and everything. And then he takes her
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to the room where they have all the evidence and
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you see, like everything's in the plastic bags with you know,
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the biohazard signs, and this is where like you start
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to see a bit more of what a weird person
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that he is, because he gets dead serious again and
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he says, you know, well, everything that's left in the
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evidence locker, like this is all like the most dangerous
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biohazard like in this state, like and every crime lord
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in the city.
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Criminal city. This guy's gonna want to get access to
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this to bring the town to its knees. And her
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eyes are so.
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Wide, like she is eating it whole kline and sinker
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like this is just old.
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This is just old, gross evidence of like every purpse
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shit stained pants, and the main reason we need you
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to guard it, and he's like even joking, he's like,
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the main reason we usually guard it is that they
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didn't come and clean it. Up yesterday.
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Yeah, so we've got the biohazard guys coming. They're probably
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gonna be here between midnight and four am, so don't leave.
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Which I love that too, because it's like I identify. It's
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like the cable guy. It's like there's a window. If
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you miss it, we might have to wait more time
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for them to finally come, and.
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Then we're gonna have to get another rookie to come tomorrow. Yeah,
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it's just gonna be you.
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So I love that because he hammers that home, like,
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do not leave until they do their job.
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And well, and she even asks, She's like, well, why
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don't we just like hire an outside.
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Like security for a security guard.
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And he's like oh and then and then he just
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laughs it off. He's like, yeah, it's actually against our
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policy here at this precinct. We don't hire outside contractors
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for guard work.
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And it's like, well, he said, we don't hire outside
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contractors because we have somebody he says to so many
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blue bloods, blue bloods already on the payroll, which makes
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perfect sense. It's like, why would we hire security when
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we are cops, like just put and it makes sense,
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so we'll just put the least experience cop that we
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would that wouldn't accomplish anything on our first day anyway. Yeah,
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she'd just be watching and trying to figure out her
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place in this. But in a way, his gruffness makes
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sense with the kind of levity you'd expect from a
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job that is often so serious, you know, him just
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kind of shining her on and and as as toxic
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as hazing and stuff can get very quickly, hazing is
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also a very good way to break a lot of
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the tension in jobs that are high stress, high risk. So,
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you know, for him scaring the cravit or going, I'm
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just kidding, Oh my gosh, how bad do you think
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this job is? Kid? You know, it's pretty it's pretty great.
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So he's like he's kind of likable. Yeah, when she
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asks too many questions, he gets very annoyed very quickly.
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He's like, how complicated is it? You sit here in
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this building for five hours? That is your job? She's
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like what about what? He's like, five hour?
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Just yeah, well, and she even asks like, well, what
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do I do if I get any nine one one calls?
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He's like, did you not hear that there's another station.
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That's just been opened?
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All the nine one walls nine one one calls, they're
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all getting re routed. You're not gonna hear a peep
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from a soul. Just sit your happy ass down and wait.
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Yeah, he was like, you might get a walk up
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if somebody doesn't know that there's a new police station.
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But that is really that's it.
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That's it.
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So as he exits, and he gives her his phone
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number in case of a severe emergency. As he exits,
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we now have our officer left all alone to her
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own well hopefully own devices, in this abandoned police precinct.
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What happens next, you'll just have to wait till after
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this to find out. All right, we're back and Officer
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Lauren is now on the last shift. Bomb And I
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don't know, have you ever worked the graveyard shift at
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a job? Have you ever worked a really late night
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shift at a job.
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Well, since I worked retail, generally, the latest I ever
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had to work would be, you know, like midnight or
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so like cleaning.
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Up, oh yeah, or doing inventory?
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Yeah, doing inventory. Sometimes I would sometimes when I worked
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at the pet store, like when we did inventory, I
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have to get there super early, so it would be like, Okay,
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everybody's got to be up and be at the store
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by four am so we can get inventory done, you know,
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by the time we open at nine.
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Sure.
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So thankfully I've never had to work a graveyard shift.
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I I've worked some late hours at jobby jobs. When
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I worked at the mall at Spencer's Gifts, one time
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we had to do inventory till like two thirty in
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the morning. The mall is a creepy place when it's empty.
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And I know liminal space has become a really popular
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thing with horror and video games and stuff like that.
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There is something weird about spaces that are clearly supposed
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to be full of people just being completely empty. But
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the mall wasn't that scary. I mean, the scariest part
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is like it's a little darker, you know, because they
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don't have all the main lights. It's never fully pitch
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black though you know the lights up, you know, their
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security and stuff like that. But it was a little eerie.
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But my favorite memories of how eerie spaces like that
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can get were there were a few times when I
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was little that I had to go with my mother
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to the office building. So she used to work at
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Reynolds and Reynolds which is which has been for a
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very long time, one of the biggest corporations in Dayton, Ohio.
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And they used to own a mas massive building downtown
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with a clock tower on top, which was kind of
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which was so legendary that when they tore the building down,
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they kept the clock tower and put it at a park.
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They put it on top of a regular tower at
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a park, so that clock tower is still whatever. But
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so it was one of those very typical office buildings.
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It had a ton of floors and at night there's
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like all the lights are dimmed. There's one guy at
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the desk. That's all you get. And I just remember,
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and I'm a little kid too, so everything's scarier anyway.
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I just remember, like walking with my mom down the
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like the dimmed hallways, getting to the you know, to
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rooms and having to dig through all the keys and
480
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:39.920
unlock things. I don't remember why we were there at all.
481
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:41.680
It may have only happened once. I remember it being
482
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:43.920
a few times, but who knows. I might also be
483
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:46.279
confusing with times we went in on the weekend and it
484
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:48.319
was just empty, but it made been during the daytime.
485
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.160
Who knows, But I just remember, like the impression that
486
00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:55.279
that left on me of like, uh, it's weird that
487
00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:58.599
there's no people. So I just want to mention that
488
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:01.519
because I feel that this film captures that very well,
489
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:06.079
because she's in an office building basically, you know that
490
00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:09.960
is it's not totally empty. There's some furniture left over,
491
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:13.359
there's some flotsam and jetsam on the floor or whatever,
492
00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:17.079
but it's mostly empty. All the important shit is gone,
493
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:21.880
and it's all lit with fluorescent lights, and it's just
494
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:26.079
kind of sitting there and now she's supposed to oversee
495
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:29.559
a whole lot of nothing. And nothing makes you more
496
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.319
on edge, I feel, than having to be somewhere where
497
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:36.920
you're pretty much guaranteed, Hey, don't worry. Literally nothing is
498
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:41.839
going to happen, so just hang out, yeah, because nothing
499
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:44.599
will happen. So then you're like, oh cool, so literally,
500
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:48.640
if anything happens, I'll be surprised and startled. Sounds like
501
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:49.279
a good plan.
502
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:54.000
Yeah, well that's exactly what happens to Officer Lauren, because
503
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:57.279
you know, as soon as a Sergeant Cohen leaves, she
504
00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.079
just kind of sits down at the desk and she's
505
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:01.720
got her law book. Because again, she's a rookie she's
506
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:05.599
still learning, and she like kind of dozes off.
507
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:08.359
Which which would make sense. Yeah, I don't even think
508
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:10.519
that the commanding officer would have been mad as long
509
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:11.400
as she was at the desk.
510
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:14.480
Yeah, he totally gave the vibe like you can set
511
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:16.519
up a hammock, just don't leave the building.
512
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:18.880
Yeah, you need to be here when the hazmat people come.
513
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:20.839
That's really your whole job.
514
00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:25.279
So, you know, she kind of dozes off, and that's
515
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:29.119
when we start speaking of fluorescent lights. We start hearing
516
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.000
like one of the fluorescent lights in the hallway like flickering.
517
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:36.519
You know, might be a defective bulb. Maybe the bulb's
518
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:37.079
going bad.
519
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:39.039
So and who would care to change it if it
520
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:40.759
went bad in the last couple of weeks since they've
521
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:43.599
been moving out, No one's no one, Yeah change it
522
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.039
for what? Yeah? Yeah, there's no maintenance people here anywhere.
523
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:48.279
The maintenance people are at the real building. Yeah yeah.
524
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.200
So you know she kind of goes out to like
525
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:54.880
see what's going on, and and again, so much of
526
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:57.680
this movie is just the atmosphere. So you know, the
527
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:02.079
camera is slowly in on her face as she's looking
528
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.720
at this flickering bulb, and you can hear it. I
529
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:07.200
hate fluorescent light buzz, but they did a great job
530
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.440
of like making it louder and louder and louder. Yeah,
531
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.759
and then when it stops, the light fixes itself. And
532
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:16.359
then immediately the phone rings.
533
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:21.079
Yes, and it's this old school phone with the four lines,
534
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.200
and as she goes to answer it, she's just kind
535
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:26.480
of like, huh, but then she jumps into like, I'm
536
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.920
a cop, so she answers it. And this is where
537
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:32.000
things start to get weird.
538
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:35.519
So on the other line is a woman or a
539
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:42.079
little girl clearly panicking a little bit, and Officer Lauren
540
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:46.039
like tries to get some information out of her. Really,
541
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:51.240
all that she can get is that there's other girls.
542
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:54.319
They're all trapped and some people are coming, and.
543
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:55.880
She keeps saying I need to get out. I need
544
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:56.319
to get out.
545
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.880
Yeah, And that's that's about it, and then the call
546
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:02.839
cuts out. Officer Lauren calls the other station and says, Hey,
547
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.920
what's going on? I just got a nine one one
548
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:08.359
call and they said, well, that's not possible because all
549
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.200
of the nine one one calls are being rerouted.
550
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:12.759
He says it in that perfectly casual like I work
551
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:14.319
here way where he's like, you didn't get at nine
552
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:16.880
one calls because they're all being rerouted. Yeah, but I
553
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:19.759
just got When he's like, you couldn't happen. You couldn't
554
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:21.720
have because we're getting them all. Well, then he even
555
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:23.599
says he was like, are you being flooded with nine
556
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:25.720
one one calls? And she's like, no, I just got one,
557
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.599
and he's like, yeah, you're not getting nine one one calls? Yeah,
558
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:31.319
which I love that too, because is that is just
559
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:33.279
kind of like a lady, you have no idea how
560
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:35.960
much the phone rings. Yeah, you wouldn't know if you
561
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:37.079
were getting nine one one calls.
562
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.279
Please trust me on this. So she kind of lets
563
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:45.079
it go, especially because she starts hearing more noises coming
564
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:50.039
from down the hall and she investigates, thinking that it's
565
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:54.400
Sergeant Cohen, and when she gets to like the front lobby,
566
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:57.680
oh no, I'm jumping ahddle a little bit. So she
567
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:02.119
just hears noises and then nah, nothing comes of it.
568
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.839
So she decides, well, I'm bored, and she does what
569
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:06.839
I do when I'm bored at work and eats her
570
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:08.119
lunch way too early.
571
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:11.799
Well, that's what I do, and I'm bored in general,
572
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:13.559
just period. Yeah.
573
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:17.000
Yeah, so this was cool because this was a nice
574
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.559
little gross out moment that just got me. So she's
575
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:24.160
sitting there eating a sandwich. We can hear like buzzing
576
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:26.440
and flickering of lights and everything, and then she gets
577
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.000
a look on her face and she starts to pull
578
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:31.200
a hair out of her mouth, which is gross enough
579
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:31.880
in and of.
580
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.200
Itself, although it got the sense that she made the
581
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.960
sandwich herself, Yeah, which makes me want to home made sandwich.
582
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:39.960
Where would the hair come from?
583
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:43.440
Well, but maybe you know who knows? Until as she pulls,
584
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:47.359
the hair is more than six inches long, then more
585
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:48.519
than a foot long.
586
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:53.640
It's it's like a good eighteen inch long, and it's good.
587
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.400
So she spits it out. I gotta get past that part.
588
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:59.799
She spits it out and just throws all her food
589
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:04.279
away because like, her hair is not eighteen inches long. No,
590
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:06.559
and it did not look like her hair.
591
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:09.000
So she's like light brown hair and a ponytail.
592
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.039
Yeah, and this was dark jet black hair like this.
593
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:15.440
Oh, it was coarse. She had a coarse long hair.
594
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:17.759
So she throws everything away.
595
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.039
I would I would too. You probably set it all
596
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:21.759
on fire.
597
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.720
Yeah, yeah, I probably would have been out by that welfare.
598
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.279
So she gets grossed out. But then she hears like
599
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:34.480
something happening in the lobby, so she goes up to
600
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:41.039
the lobby to investigate, and outside she thinks she sees something,
601
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:43.880
so she opens the door. She walks out to the
602
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:46.240
front of the building, and then when she turns around,
603
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.680
without even noticing, someone slipped into the door.
604
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:52.720
Yeah, there's a figure in a coat and pants with
605
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.960
long hair and no shoes on, no shoes, And as
606
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.599
she calls out to him, he does what any vagrant
607
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.319
would do, just starts urinating on the floor.
608
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:04.920
Yeah, because why wouldn't you.
609
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.720
Because yeah, because why not. Now he's and he's unresponsive
610
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.279
to her speaking to him, and so she goes around
611
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:17.200
and has her her retractable baton out and basically one
612
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:21.160
of the first really good scares, you know. She she's like, sir, sir,
613
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:23.000
And then finally he just kind of barks shut up,
614
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:27.119
like we're like out of nowhere, like very very schizophrenic style,
615
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.079
and startles her. But then at the moment he's a responsor,
616
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.200
he's like she starts pokings like get.
617
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:35.839
Out, yeah, like right now, go go go. Now that
618
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.240
I know you're not gonna die.
619
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:39.279
Yeah, now that I know you're not like, you don't
620
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:42.279
need medical attention, get the hell out of here. Yeah.
621
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:48.559
So she gets him out the door, and then she
622
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:51.559
goes to clean up. So she goes into you know,
623
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:54.319
the room to get like a mop bucket and whatever.
624
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:58.440
And as she's cleaning up, she notices an old pair
625
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:02.200
of leather work boots. And I thought this was great storytelling.
626
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:06.519
She finds this old pair of work boots and she
627
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.720
takes him out front and she leaves him on the
628
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.279
front steps. She doesn't see the homeless man anywhere, but
629
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.640
she leaves him on the front steps for him. And
630
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.680
it's interesting because after that we always see that he's
631
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:18.640
wearing those boots.
632
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:22.160
Well, maybe he was Japanese.
633
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:23.279
He was trying to be.
634
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.720
He was like, I would never enter someone's place of
635
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:29.000
business or home. And you're ainate on the floor leaving
636
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:29.799
my shoes on.
637
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:31.240
No, that's just wrong.
638
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:34.000
How rude. But things are about to get a lot
639
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:50.519
more rude when we get back after this. So now
640
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.960
our hero, if you will, Officer Lauren, has kicked the
641
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:58.039
homeless guy out. But of course there is that question,
642
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:00.279
how the hell did he get in? We didn't see
643
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.039
Now there was a period in time that the door
644
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.840
was unlocked, but as far as the door being unwatched,
645
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:11.880
it was a matter of seconds, yeah, that the door
646
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:17.320
was unwatched, And that pretty much sets the standard for
647
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.199
the whole film because anything that anything out of sight
648
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:25.880
is in play. The moment you're not looking directly at
649
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.840
something entirely bathed in light, there's no guarantee that there
650
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.840
won't or will be anything there, and that works so
651
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:38.079
well because, hmm, while this film, I'm sure I don't
652
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:40.800
I couldn't find an actual budget for it, but I'm
653
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.880
positive the film was done on the lower end, maybe
654
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:47.480
one hundred thousand dollars, maybe a little less, or maybe
655
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.119
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Maybe it wasn't quite
656
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:55.760
as small. But they had basically this office building and
657
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:01.079
a very minimal amount of time and money to really
658
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:02.519
do much with it. I mean, there are a few
659
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.599
moments later on where you know, she goes into the
660
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:09.960
bathroom and it's completely been destroyed and covered in gross stuff,
661
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:12.440
But for the most part, the building is just the building.
662
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:15.960
And that's one of the things I love about the
663
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.519
movie is they do so much with incredibly little, and
664
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.480
they really don't start doing a lot until the end,
665
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:29.079
and even then it's relatively simple. But I always thought,
666
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.000
I've always felt that simplicity is king when it comes
667
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.880
to to scares, because the more complex things are, the
668
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:39.639
more you're thinking, and the more you're thinking. Sometimes that
669
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:42.239
can be good because it distracts you, but sometimes it
670
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.840
can be bad because it distracts you. So you know
671
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.280
the idea that at any moment when you're watching the film,
672
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.719
she could the camera could pan away because she looks
673
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.920
at something and when she looks back there may be
674
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:59.760
something totally different. I love I love that so much.
675
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.239
So now she's a bit on edge because she had
676
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:06.159
the lol homeless guy peede in the whatever, I better
677
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.360
go clean it up. We're starting to realize that things
678
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:10.840
are getting a little bit.
679
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:11.920
Getting a little weird.
680
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:13.960
Yeah, they're getting a little concerning.
681
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:16.960
Yeah, well, and you mentioned the next thing that happened
682
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:20.840
is you know, she's she's cleaned up, left the shoes
683
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:24.119
out for the homeless man, and she starts investigating around
684
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.119
and when she goes into the bathroom, it is destroyed.
685
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:31.599
Yeah, And I mean, like beyond beyond anything that makes sense.
686
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.559
It's not just a little dirty or a little grimy
687
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.320
or a little run down. It is. It is covered
688
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:42.440
in filth of varying concepts. I think that's a good
689
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:43.000
way to put it.
690
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:43.800
That's a good way put it.
691
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.119
Yeah, Like you could be like, is this shit? Is
692
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:48.199
this blood? Is this piss? And it would just be
693
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:50.920
shrug emoji. Yeah you don't want it, That's all I
694
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:54.400
can tell you for sure, Which is you know which?
695
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:56.760
It seemed to me like she tries to play off
696
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:00.000
as like, oh, this place is just really disgusting. Yeah,
697
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:04.360
we're leaving it, but it's kind of beyond the pale.
698
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:09.320
It's off putting. It is unsettling, to say the least. Yes,
699
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:14.280
And so as she's as she's wandering, investigating, and this
700
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.639
goes plays into you can't trust it if you're not
701
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.559
looking directly at it. So she walks into the locker
702
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.440
room and all of the lockers are slightly a jar
703
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:28.960
except one. She opens it up and it.
704
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:30.960
Has a key, and it has a key when all
705
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.400
the other ones have don't have a key. This locker
706
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.440
is closed with a key sticking out of the keyhole.
707
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:37.119
Oh.
708
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:41.519
So she opens it up and tucked in one of
709
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:45.960
the upper corners is a picture childhood picture of her
710
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:46.519
and her.
711
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.079
Dad, which will we find that out later? Yeah? Yeah,
712
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.960
At first it's just a picture of a father and daughter.
713
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.320
The reason I kind of gathered pretty quickly that it
714
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.559
was a picture of her and her dad sure was
715
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:03.079
first off, the writing on the back. I felt like,
716
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.679
if it was just some random throwaway character, the writing
717
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:07.360
wouldn't have played as much into it.
718
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:07.599
Yeah.
719
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:09.920
Yeah, but they did make sure to focus on it,
720
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.639
and it says Daddy and Cuttlebug at the park.
721
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:13.079
Yes.
722
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.320
But the other reason that I assumed that it had
723
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:18.480
to be connected to her in some way is because
724
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.280
the way she considered it, and she was gonna take
725
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:24.079
the picture, she was gonna slide it into her pocket,
726
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:27.400
but then she took a moment, looked at it again,
727
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:30.599
and put it back in the locker, which to me
728
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:34.159
was kind of like her way of saying, like, I
729
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:36.199
have the memory in my heart, I don't need to
730
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.280
take the picture from where dad left it.
731
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:42.159
See. I get that, But as a first time viewer,
732
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:47.880
I felt her almost keeping it might have been more
733
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.199
the wit they were trying to get across, I mean,
734
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.599
because obviously it turns out to be her opinion or
735
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:56.079
her father, her almost keeping it and then putting it
736
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:59.000
back was like them trying to fake us out into
737
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:01.239
thinking like, oh, she almost kept this just because it
738
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:03.679
was cute, and then realized like, somebody's probably gonna come
739
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:07.239
back for this, and it's not mine. That was at
740
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.320
first the thought. But I mean, like, like you said,
741
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:12.000
it does turn out to be a photograph of her
742
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.239
and her father, which seems weird because again, we never
743
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:21.079
really get a major idea of when the incident that
744
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.519
we're going that's going to unravel in front of us.
745
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:25.199
We never really get an idea of when it happens,
746
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:27.119
but there are hints that it was a little while
747
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.280
ago the technology at the time. We also don't know
748
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.920
when the movie takes place. We have hints because she
749
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:36.519
has a flip phone, but it was shot in twenty fourteen.
750
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.440
Flip phones were still a thing in twenty fourteen. But
751
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:44.039
this could have been two thousand and six. Yeah, it
752
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.800
could have been two thousand and eight. It doesn't really,
753
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:48.840
it doesn't matter enough that it needs to be spelled
754
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:50.920
out in the movie. It's just that there is a
755
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.719
consistent argument. There's a way to make an argument. There's
756
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:57.719
consistently no flat screen TVs there's consistently no smartphones, there's
757
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:02.280
consistently no you know, kindle books. Yeah, there's there's nothing
758
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:05.639
to tell us exactly when it is, So it could
759
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:07.159
have been twenty fourteen, or it could have been as
760
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.599
early as like two thousand and three or four. Yeah,
761
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:13.039
we don't really see anything. It's very timeless in that way,
762
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:17.000
which makes it even even more offset off putting in
763
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:17.559
a way.
764
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:20.400
Yeah, because then you can kind of imagine it happening
765
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:21.280
to yourself.
766
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:21.719
Yeah.
767
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:25.880
Yeah, it's easier, easier to insert yourself into the story
768
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:29.400
that way. But so, so she considers the picture, she
769
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:34.920
puts it back, and then the camera zooms out and
770
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:41.599
now all of the lockers are wide open, every single one.
771
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:46.159
And she's a little freaked out because she is literally
772
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:47.079
the only person there.
773
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:49.400
And it made no sound. None of the lockers been
774
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.039
sound opening up. The only sound we hear as an
775
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:57.199
audience is the the musical thud, the musical sting, letting
776
00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.320
us know something just happened. As it cuts to the
777
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.280
wide shot, I realize all of the lockers are open,
778
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:03.639
all of them.
779
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:09.400
So then she gets another nine one one call yes,
780
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.000
and it's the girl again, and this time Officer Lauren
781
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:16.559
is able to get her name out of her. She
782
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:20.039
learns that her name has Monica, and Monica explains she's
783
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:24.159
on a ranch, but really the only landmark at all
784
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:26.400
that she can think to describe is I think there
785
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:30.599
are pigs. That's the only thing she can really give away.
786
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:35.159
The calls disconnects again and again. She calls the new
787
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:39.360
station and explains like, hey, I just got I just
788
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:42.119
got that call. And the guy's a little annoyed. He's like,
789
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.360
I don't know what to tell you. He says, if
790
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:48.239
they're calling you, they have to be calling that station
791
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:50.599
directly because nine to one one is going to go
792
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:51.840
to US and US only.
793
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:54.039
Yeah, and so we can't track that call coming in.
794
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:55.519
And of course I're responsible. Then what do I do?
795
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:57.039
He is like, tell her to hang up and call
796
00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:58.559
nine one one.
797
00:41:58.719 --> 00:41:59.599
That's all you can do.
798
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:00.440
Yeah.
799
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:09.559
So oh so another bit of beautiful visual storytelling is
800
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:13.159
you know, she's in the office room and there's those big,
801
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:17.840
the big vault bookshelves that they use to keep all
802
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:20.159
of the records and everything O.
803
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.079
The record shelves, and they're so big they're on tracks
804
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:26.239
with a Pulley system, so they're easy to move.
805
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:28.239
Exact cause you wouldn't be able to move them easily
806
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.679
by hand, so they've got a pulley system. So we
807
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.840
start hearing those like rattling. So she goes to investigate
808
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:39.480
and kind of holds everything steady and the rattling dies down,
809
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.800
and she's thinking, oh, well, I'm just getting a little
810
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.000
you know, a little rough of uh, just a little,
811
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.880
and then all of them just slam to one side,
812
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.360
which again, they're on a track, so you would have
813
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.320
to exert an incredible amount of force to move all
814
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:55.960
of them.
815
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:58.880
And you would have to be seen doing it. Yeah,
816
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:02.480
Because when she looks around, there's no one, nothing, there's
817
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:06.559
nothing even unusual, yeah, other than that happening.
818
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:13.679
So she's she's getting a little panicky. So she tries
819
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:18.039
using the radio on her on her lapel, and all
820
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.679
she gets is like crackling. She can't get through on
821
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:25.199
the radio. Then all of the lights cut out and
822
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:25.639
we hear.
823
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:28.199
An alarm sound yeah, and red lights kick on.
824
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:32.199
And so this is real bad. And and again this
825
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:34.280
is where we get to learn a little bit more
826
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.920
about who she is as a person, not just as
827
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:41.280
a police officer, but as a person. So this is
828
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:47.000
a very panic inducing moment to calm herself down. As
829
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.119
she draws her weapon and has her flashlight out and
830
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:55.639
she's looking around, she's reciting to herself the oath that
831
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:58.519
she took as a police officer that she's here to
832
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:02.199
you know, guard and uphold old with you know, liberty
833
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:04.159
and justice and fairness or something.
834
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:04.440
Yeah.
835
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:08.679
Yeah, So that's that was interesting to me because you
836
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:15.199
start to see that she's one of those cops who like,
837
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.920
this is who she wants to be. This isn't just
838
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:20.559
a job for her. She wants to be that force
839
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:21.880
in the community.
840
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.960
Well and in a way being a cop to her,
841
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:27.719
she's treating it like being a Catholic priest. Yeah, because
842
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:31.960
she's reciting her oath to give her strength and calmness,
843
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:36.719
which I mean, like, I'm not a religious man, but
844
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.400
I think I get that I'd bet on a priest
845
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:43.039
before I bet on a precinct, you know. But things
846
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:46.280
are going to get even weirder as we continue to
847
00:44:46.320 --> 00:45:03.760
dive in right after this. So now that we've had
848
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:07.480
the alarms go off and we've had Officer Lauren walking
849
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:11.960
along in the dark basically preaching to herself about her
850
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:16.199
oath as an officer, what happens next.
851
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:20.199
So she opens up a door to go to like
852
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.239
the breaker room, because again it's an office building, so
853
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:25.800
it doesn't have like a normal homebreaker. It's got the
854
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:29.840
big switch things, right. So she goes in there, and
855
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.360
first we see the shoes, we see the boots, and
856
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:35.119
then we see the homeless people in them, yeah, which
857
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:37.880
was very unsettling. And then we see the homeless man
858
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:41.400
and he's just like digging through stuff and like throwing
859
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:42.239
things around.
860
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:46.639
Doing like the the I guess discarded records, the records
861
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:49.760
that weren't worth keeping. He's just throwing them around. He's
862
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.159
just going nuts on top of a of a like
863
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:53.400
five foot high shelf.
864
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:58.559
Yeah, So she gets the breaker and then she's like
865
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:03.159
trying to argue with him and finally like tases him
866
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:06.920
and apprehends him and is dragging him to a cell,
867
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.480
to a holding cell, and she has a little rough
868
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:11.599
with him getting into him into the holding cell, but
869
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:15.840
in her defense, he is not being cooperative, no at all.
870
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.159
So she gets him into the cell and she's in
871
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:21.159
the cell with him and like tases him so that
872
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:26.880
she can keep him subdued. And then all the child
873
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.599
all the lights shut off again. The door slams close
874
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:31.519
on its own and she can't open it.
875
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:33.760
Yeah, so now she's stuck in the holding cell with
876
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:38.000
this homeless perp guy whose hands are handcuffed behind his back.
877
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.880
But then all we hear is like scuffling and him
878
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.599
breathing and her breathing, and she's not even even really
879
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.280
saying anything. But we don't see anything because she's like
880
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:53.960
dropped the flashlight, and so all we can all we
881
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.760
can really do is for a good like fifteen twenty
882
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.800
twenty five seconds, it's all we hear is breathing in
883
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:02.280
a little bit of moving and rustling. We don't see
884
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:05.360
anything except blackness, which is even blacker because of your
885
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:11.960
new TV. And then we see the light. And at
886
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.599
first it looks like the homeless man is holding the light.
887
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:17.239
To her him.
888
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.079
She's like, yeah, give give it back, give it back,
889
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:24.840
and then the light moves and points at him.
890
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.360
He's from directly next to her, and he's completely unconscious.
891
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:30.199
He's way he's just.
892
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:34.519
Out like a light. So the light keeps moving as
893
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.440
she's you know, trying to argue with whomever or whatever
894
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.920
is there, like you need to give me my flashlight back,
895
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.320
and as she's maneuvering around the room trying to grab
896
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:49.239
this disembodied flashlight. She's standing in front of the door
897
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:55.960
and we see this bloody, ghostly face just pop up
898
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.480
in the window of the door and then disappear the
899
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.239
moment she looks away.
900
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:01.760
Which was the moment that woke me up when I
901
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:03.400
was watching the movie the first time, and it was
902
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:05.239
one of the biggest scares in the film, and it
903
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:05.639
got me.
904
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:09.440
And that's talk about less is more. The build up
905
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:13.320
for that was perfect. The tension, you know, was perfectly executed,
906
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:18.280
and they didn't need, you know, like huge blockbuster special
907
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:21.360
effects to like totally get us hooked on this. It
908
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.639
was just some fake blood and somebody in a creepy mask.
909
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:25.320
That's it.
910
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:26.800
Yeah.
911
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:32.239
Uh So she finally she finally gets the gets the flashlight,
912
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:36.400
the lights turned back on, and the door opens and
913
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.519
she just books it out, locks the door behind her
914
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:42.800
and like, sorry, homeless man, you're gonna have to stand
915
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:43.719
there by yourself.
916
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:47.239
Well he would be there by himself anyway anyway, But yeah,
917
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:49.880
have you been arrested by a cop nice enough to
918
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:55.440
hang out with you in holding? Life is different for women,
919
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:55.960
I swear.
920
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:05.800
So now she's really thinks are beyond this is just
921
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:11.199
a little weird. This is like really starting to freak
922
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:16.320
her out. Everything's starting to go back to normal, the
923
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:20.679
lights aren't flickering, but like you can tell that she's
924
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:25.280
really on edge. So she manages to calm herself down
925
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:28.440
by reciting her oath again, and then she goes to
926
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:33.199
call Sergeant Cohen, and you can tell, and again amazing acting.
927
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:36.039
You can tell as she calls Sergeant Cohen that she's
928
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:39.039
gonna tell him like I can't do this, and she
929
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:45.519
gets his voicemail, and so she kind of collects herself
930
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.880
and she's like a sergeant, I just wanted to call.
931
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:52.360
I had to tell you. I'm so thankful to be here.
932
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.400
I'm so thankful on this chance to be on the force.
933
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.000
And you're like, oh man, she is. She is in
934
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.199
it to win it well.
935
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:04.000
And and expectation is a curse, you know, yeah, the
936
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.280
only the only curse worse than expectation of a loved
937
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:10.440
one or expectation of oneself is expectation of a loved
938
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:13.119
one who is no longer with you. Because you can
939
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:16.039
never get well, You'll it'll never be good enough because
940
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:17.039
you'll never get.
941
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:20.480
Any any positive affirmation whatsoever.
942
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.800
Or any affirmation at all, and if you do get affirmation,
943
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:25.960
that's even more worrisome.
944
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:30.960
Yes, so yeah, So she she hangs up, and she's
945
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:33.679
still a little shaken, but you know, she made her
946
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:36.119
phone call, and you know she's feeling a little bitter,
947
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:39.599
but you can see on her face that things don't
948
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.199
feel quite right. So she looks around and then she
949
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:49.320
looks up and there's blood on the ceilings. Something is
950
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:54.239
written in blood on the ceiling. And she turns because
951
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:57.639
she's on one of those you know turning chairs, like
952
00:50:57.719 --> 00:50:59.199
a chair, yeah, dust chair.
953
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:02.199
Yeah, Like I am like, we're both in right now. Yeah. Yeah,
954
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:03.880
So she turns. It looks like it looks like it
955
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:06.119
says w O s whoas or something.
956
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:09.400
And you're like, what's that? Yeah, And then when she turns,
957
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:11.400
you realize soo.
958
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:14.679
Sao, which some people might not know what sao means.
959
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:17.159
So Sao is a female pig.
960
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:20.760
See oh yeah, okay, I didn't even know it was
961
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:21.320
a female pig.
962
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:24.719
I just do was Yeah, we're specifically a female pig more.
963
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:29.000
Popular on farms and in the old dialect to call
964
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.480
a pig of sal because I think it's too confusing
965
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:37.239
because it sounds like cow you know what, I'm just saying.
966
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:39.079
Some of those fart and people have thick accents so
967
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:41.719
that you know, you think you're going to you're going
968
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:43.320
to a sou field and like what.
969
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:51.719
So that obviously puts her off more so she kind
970
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:54.920
of just books it out of that office room, like, Okay,
971
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:57.159
we're not going to hang out where the phone is
972
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:03.800
anymore correct. She goes to like lock everything up because
973
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.440
now it's clear that not only has the homeless man
974
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:11.039
gotten him twice, but now someone else is in there,
975
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:14.039
riding in blood on the ceiling. So she goes to
976
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.360
lock everything up, but when she gets to the back door,
977
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:20.960
she sees a woman just back there, chief on a cigarette.
978
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:24.400
And a relatively normal looking woman. She's you know, blonde
979
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:30.679
hair with a ponytail. She looks like she's probably a
980
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:37.320
long traveled lady of the night because she's wearing high
981
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.639
heels and a short skirt. And yeah, she's just smoking.
982
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:43.159
She's just sucking a button. She's just smoking a cigarette
983
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:44.679
out front.
984
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:50.039
And uh so, Officer Lauren's like, you can't do that here.
985
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.360
This is a police station. Like, you can't just hang
986
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:54.719
out in the back of the police station smoking cigarettes,
987
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:57.079
and the lady's like, please just let me finish this one.
988
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.119
Or her responsible, Yeah, it kills me because she's like, no,
989
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:03.039
it's not police station's down the road on the corner
990
00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:07.440
or whatever. And she's like you, ma'am, please.
991
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:11.039
I'm having a hard night. So they sit like they
992
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:13.320
have a really good conversation.
993
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:15.960
A few times that she has a conversation face to
994
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.599
face with another person, because every time that there's a
995
00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:20.920
phone call, we never see the other person and we
996
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:24.239
always stay with Officer Lauren. In fact, that's almost the
997
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:27.079
law of the whole movie, is we actually, yeah, we
998
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:28.960
never we never leave ever.
999
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.679
So as they're sitting there talking and you know, kind
1000
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:35.840
of breaking the ice. At first, Officer Lauren's kind of
1001
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:39.360
gruff with her, but after the lady like cracks that
1002
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:42.920
joke and you know kind of it's kind of like, please,
1003
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.000
this is like gonna be way safer for me to
1004
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:47.599
smoke a cigarette here than to go and smoke it
1005
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:50.639
on the corner somewhere. She's like, okay, fair enough, just
1006
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:54.199
you know, leave when you're done. And then the lady start,
1007
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:56.880
you know, starts talking about like, well, I was there
1008
00:53:56.920 --> 00:54:02.159
that night, and as the audience were like, oh good,
1009
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:03.239
there's a that night.
1010
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:05.679
Yeah. Yeah. Whenever you hear that Night, you know, it's
1011
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:06.320
a good time.
1012
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:12.079
And she starts explaining she was there when the Payman
1013
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:13.719
family was arrested.
1014
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:18.480
And she refers to them specifically as Manson, which is
1015
00:54:18.719 --> 00:54:22.079
which is an excellent bit of self awareness, because otherwise
1016
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:23.719
it would be like, wow, they really just took the
1017
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:26.679
Manson story and ran with it, but.
1018
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:28.079
They at least acknowledged like that.
1019
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:31.320
Yeah, and to be Manson family, Oh, absolutely sure that
1020
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:32.039
for decades.
1021
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:36.079
Yeah. So you know, she says she was there when
1022
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:39.239
they were arrested. An officer Laurence says, well, that's can't
1023
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:43.480
be because they did not apprehend them alive, and she says, oh, no,
1024
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:48.440
they did. They were very much alive when they came
1025
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:55.000
to the station, and they sang all night this creepy,
1026
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:55.960
creepy song.
1027
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:58.639
And we've been hearing it a little bit throughout the film.
1028
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:00.800
It's a little tiny.
1029
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.639
Bits and pieces, and you don't really notice it until
1030
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:06.840
this lady sings the whole song. And then as she
1031
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:12.960
finishes the song, like she starts crying just a little bit,
1032
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:17.320
just not like but just a good one, good tear
1033
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:20.480
and you know, she says, and then in the morning
1034
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:24.920
they'd all hung themselves and in the cell behind them,
1035
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:26.639
pure evil.
1036
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:31.119
Of course, it makes you wonder why she said she
1037
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:32.519
felt safer smoking there.
1038
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:35.159
Well, there's a lot of questions.
1039
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:37.679
Yeah, there are a lot of questions in this movie entirely.
1040
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:38.920
It's one of the best parts of it.
1041
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:42.039
But we kind of I got as an audience member,
1042
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:43.880
I got kind of the vibe like this is the
1043
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:47.320
kind of evil that you never recover from. So maybe
1044
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:49.800
maybe she felt safer because at least it's like, well,
1045
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:51.280
at least there's one person here.
1046
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:53.760
Yeah, yeah, I could agree with that, which is much.
1047
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.079
Better than the empty, cold, barren, empty street.
1048
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:57.199
Yeah.
1049
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:02.639
But things get even more intriguing when this random lady
1050
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:08.320
mentions that Officer Lauren's father was on duty that night
1051
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:17.599
and he was there when they apprehended the family. So
1052
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.599
the lady kind of says her goodbyes, leaving Officer Lauren
1053
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:23.360
with far more questions than she had to begin with.
1054
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:28.519
But now she's got a little tiny bit of the story,
1055
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:33.840
and so when Officer Lauren goes back inside.
1056
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:50.320
Oh, we're gonna find out right after this break and
1057
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:53.840
we're back as Officer Lauren's about to find out a
1058
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:56.800
little bit more about the history of not only the
1059
00:56:57.719 --> 00:56:59.960
precinct but her own family.
1060
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:06.079
So she walks back in and as she's walking down
1061
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:09.840
the hall, she notices that one of the doors is opened.
1062
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:14.079
She opens it further and there's TV screen in like
1063
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.559
their meeting room, and.
1064
00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:20.079
This is like old school hospital style mounted in the corner.
1065
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:25.679
Yeah, yeah, so staticky. But then it just starts showing
1066
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:32.119
different footage of these very unsavory characters kind of rambling
1067
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:33.079
a little bit.
1068
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:37.320
Well, not just rambling, like psychotic rambling. I think the
1069
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:39.920
leader of the group kept saying like I am the
1070
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:42.440
flame of a candle. He just keeps saying like I
1071
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:45.320
am the flame of a candle, Like the flame of
1072
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:49.000
a candle, I serve and blah blah blah. It's very
1073
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:51.480
very great pole. And then it cuts to the women
1074
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:54.079
who are very much kind of like the devotees of
1075
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:57.480
Charles Manson exactly, and they're ranting, but they're but they're
1076
00:57:57.639 --> 00:57:59.920
very much like the devotees of Charles Manson, because manson
1077
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:05.039
devotees were not the flowery speakers that he was. They
1078
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:08.519
were a lot of them in interviews were just straight
1079
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:11.320
up drooling killers. I mean, so when the one girl
1080
00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:12.960
at one point you catch a little snippet of her
1081
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.519
saying like like, uh, I bashed her head in with
1082
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:17.639
a baseball bat and then bounces around and what comes back.
1083
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:19.639
She says like she didn't even look like a person
1084
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.079
no more, and it bounce around. She's like, I loved it,
1085
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:22.599
and he.
1086
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:25.559
Turned me on, you know, and the one the other
1087
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:28.880
girl's like, I killed one girl. She squealed like a pig.
1088
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:34.199
And then she starts like and yeah, yeah, it's it's it's.
1089
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.960
Very and unsettling. So at first it's just on the screen,
1090
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:43.320
but then in the room there's a a dropped down
1091
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.840
sheet and it's being projected from behind the sheet kind
1092
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:51.199
of showing that like, now Officer Lauren is like has
1093
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:57.800
been submerged in, you know, the visuals of what's going
1094
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:03.639
on with this these interrogations, and you know it, the
1095
00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:06.679
whole thing kind of ends snaps out of it when
1096
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:10.679
there's another call on the phone, and now Officer Lauren
1097
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:13.000
like really wants to get to the bottom of this
1098
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:18.440
of who is calling her, so she runs and answers
1099
00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:21.199
the phone and she's like Monica, Monica, what's your last name,
1100
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:26.079
so Monica gives her her last name and kind of
1101
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:29.320
gives some more information. Officer Lauren you knows, like, hey, look,
1102
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:32.639
look you need to hang up call nine one one,
1103
00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:35.199
and Monica says, I can't call nine one one from
1104
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.039
my phone, which is weird.
1105
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:39.519
It is very strange.
1106
00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:46.599
And then she says they're coming and they won't stop singing,
1107
00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:53.960
and so Officer Lauren asks if anyone there has mentioned
1108
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:58.719
John Michael Payman, the man who the of the Payman family,
1109
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:03.360
and they have, they've been talking about John Michael Payman.
1110
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:06.679
And then the phone cuts out again, of course conveniently,
1111
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:08.840
so she calls the new station and she gives them
1112
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:12.559
the information and explains that she thinks Monica is being
1113
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:16.400
held hostage by the Payman family and the other remaining
1114
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:19.400
the remaining because because they only got three, but it
1115
01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:22.119
was well known that there was other family members that
1116
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.000
were able to get away. And the officer says, like
1117
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:28.679
that that is really not possible.
1118
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:30.880
Yeah. He even mentions that the few members of the
1119
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:33.880
Payman family are still around are like constantly scrutinized and
1120
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:37.400
watched by law enforcement because they were never caught doing
1121
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:40.320
anything wrong, but they're they're here on the list, they're
1122
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:41.960
heavily watched. Yeah.
1123
01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:45.920
So after she hangs up, she starts hearing someone whistling
1124
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:51.079
from down the hallway. When she goes to investigate, there's
1125
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.119
a room. She opens the door. There's a room full
1126
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:57.400
of furniture on the floor. Like that's the staging room
1127
01:00:57.480 --> 01:00:59.559
for like getting all of the chairs and stuff out
1128
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:00.519
of the office.
1129
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:01.679
Crap office chairs.
1130
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:08.119
Basically nothing, no big deal. So she hears something behind her,
1131
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:11.039
she turns and looks, and then when she turns.
1132
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:13.480
Back, which is literally in a matter of seconds.
1133
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:16.719
Yeah, one and a half two seconds, turns, looks, turns back,
1134
01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:22.760
all of the furniture is stacked up ceiling high, straight
1135
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:26.480
out of Poltergeist, which is great, great little homage to Poltergeist.
1136
01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:29.440
But it was super effective again because like we were
1137
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:32.159
not looking and the ending again it's reinforcing, like if
1138
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:36.159
you are not looking somewhere, don't trust it. It will change.
1139
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:42.679
So that to her, something flips a switch and she's like,
1140
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:46.280
I'm being haste. That's that's the only that's the only
1141
01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:50.960
logical explanation. So she, you know, like holds up her arms. Okay, guys,
1142
01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:54.840
you got you got me. It's great, great, you're gonna
1143
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.119
haze the rookie. I get it.
1144
01:01:57.440 --> 01:01:59.360
I even give you credit. You had me go in.
1145
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:02.840
But no one's coming out.
1146
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:05.119
Yeah, And then she gets mad. She's like, Okay, it's
1147
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:07.599
really fucked up that you guys aren't gonna just let
1148
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:08.079
this go.
1149
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:12.119
Yeah, like you got you got, you got your laughs, kid,
1150
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.079
just let's end this. So then she hears the buzzer
1151
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:17.760
out front go off. She goes to see who it is,
1152
01:02:18.519 --> 01:02:22.360
and it's another police officer. It's a police officer from
1153
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:25.639
the new building. So he's, you know, he's been moved,
1154
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:27.760
he's been working over there. And he says that he's
1155
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.239
come to check on her because they've gotten several car
1156
01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:32.559
calls from her. So he just wants to make sure that,
1157
01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:35.920
you know, she's okay. And they you know, they kind
1158
01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:38.280
of laugh and you know, they have they have a
1159
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:41.400
good time and he and he says that he was
1160
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:47.039
actually there on duty with her father when the payments
1161
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:47.800
were being arrested.
1162
01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:50.039
He admits that the real reason he came was that
1163
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:53.639
he wanted to see her because he respected her father.
1164
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:58.960
In fact, he suggests that during the shootout that while
1165
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:01.320
he was saving Bob, he's her father was the one
1166
01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:05.280
literally in the midst of a firefight and that's when
1167
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:07.079
he died. And she even mentions like, they never gave
1168
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:09.519
me details. You know, they told us, they told us
1169
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:12.840
he passed, but they never give us any details. And so,
1170
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:15.800
and this guy is extremely earnest. He's constantly trying to
1171
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:19.199
get her to relax because she's when she first sees him,
1172
01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:21.119
she's just like, oh, you're you're, you know, here to
1173
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:24.440
laugh about it. And he's like, I what, I don't
1174
01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:28.119
know what you're talking about. Yeah, so he's he definitely
1175
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:31.039
is trying to, you know, cool her down a little bit.
1176
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:33.880
He's not the oldest guy. He's probably maybe ten years
1177
01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:36.880
older than her at most, and he's very friendly and
1178
01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:38.960
he's trying to you know, but as soon as he
1179
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.880
starts talking about that, he's very serious about like, I
1180
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.760
just you know, want you to know that we're happy
1181
01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:46.960
to have you on the foreshear, Dad would be would
1182
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:49.960
be very proud because he believed in what we do.
1183
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:54.199
And it's actually a very touching moment after all of
1184
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:59.199
the hardship that she's gone through so far, yeah, so far.
1185
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:02.320
So far, And he even says to her, he says,
1186
01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:04.920
you know, if you do need anything, if just like
1187
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:09.199
I'm right down the street, just call and ask for
1188
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:11.760
officer Price and I'll be there in just a minute,
1189
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:13.480
you know, I'll walk down and I'll take care of you.
1190
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:16.039
And he says, you know, well, I've got to go,
1191
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:19.239
and she's like, I wouldn't be mad. She wanted to stay.
1192
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:21.079
He believe me, I wish I could.
1193
01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:25.519
But I've got to go. Yes, So he turns to
1194
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:28.920
walk away, and the entire back of his head is
1195
01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:30.880
just gone.
1196
01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:35.000
And we don't mean like it's bloody. We mean you
1197
01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:38.559
can see that there is a hole in the back
1198
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:43.880
of his head, flat out. You can see that it's gone,
1199
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.360
and it's not focused on it's not in a close up.
1200
01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:48.840
As he walks away, you just see it. And then
1201
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:52.760
we see her reaction, yeah, which is obviously startled. But
1202
01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:55.519
then even worse, as he leaves the doorway and walks
1203
01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:59.480
past one window, he doesn't walk past the other window,
1204
01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:00.400
Like there's.
1205
01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:04.320
A wall with an adjoining window, and he doesn't walk past.
1206
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.079
And when she goes to catch up with him, he's
1207
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:08.960
not there at all. Yeah, which makes us realize that
1208
01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:15.039
possibly the nicest and friendliest character so far was most
1209
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:21.559
certainly a spooky a ghost and that is one of
1210
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:24.039
those moments in the movie that really kind of makes
1211
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:27.320
you go, Okay, the tone is about to shift substantially,
1212
01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:31.679
and we'll talk all about that substantial tone shift after this,
1213
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:49.880
and we are back talking all about Last Shift. So
1214
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:52.000
what's happening next.
1215
01:05:52.519 --> 01:05:58.719
So after Officer Price disappears, after that really unsettling reveal, well.
1216
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:04.239
A a representation of Officer Price. But that's one of
1217
01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:09.320
the things I love about this. I love ambiguity, Yeah.
1218
01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:12.960
I I I'm one of those people like if you
1219
01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:18.960
if you did three more Last Shift movies or two
1220
01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:21.280
or even two more or whatever, I would start to go,
1221
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:24.400
all right, guys, you gotta start answering some goddamn questions
1222
01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:27.760
because like we got to evolve where we're at.
1223
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:30.880
But for a one off, yeah, I love not knowing
1224
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:33.840
what's going on entirely. That's the fun of it. That's
1225
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:36.159
what makes my brain spin. And then I end up
1226
01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:38.079
talking to you about it on a microphone. You know,
1227
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:39.519
that's that's a good shit.
1228
01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:41.679
It's the good stuff. Yeah, it's the good stuff.
1229
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:43.320
So but but one of the things that's kind of
1230
01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:48.039
ambiguous is now that we know we're seeing ghosts, or
1231
01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:52.440
manifestations or something are Was that actually the ghost of
1232
01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:56.199
Officer Price or was that a manifestation of the evil
1233
01:06:56.400 --> 01:07:01.159
in this building just fucking with her for fun. That's
1234
01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:04.960
up to us to interpret. I lean toward it was
1235
01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:07.760
actually his ghost, because there were things he said that
1236
01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:12.679
seemed so legitimate. Like one part that really clicks with me, after,
1237
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.920
you know, seeing his brains have been blown out, was
1238
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:17.519
when she says, like you can hang out, and he
1239
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:20.760
seems to really mean it. Way's like I wish I could. Yeah,
1240
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:22.559
Like yeah, Like he's almost like I wish I could,
1241
01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:25.159
But like this is the most I am able to
1242
01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:28.960
try to help you, yeah, or warn you. Yeah. But
1243
01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:30.840
at the same time, he doesn't really help her warn
1244
01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:34.760
her that much. So maybe he's just setting her up.
1245
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:38.280
Yeah, maybe he is just there to get her to
1246
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:39.199
lower her guard.
1247
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:40.719
That could be.
1248
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.639
Because immediately after he leaves, while she's standing in there
1249
01:07:43.719 --> 01:07:46.039
there in the hallway, we start hearing whispering, and then
1250
01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:49.840
we hear screaming. We hear the voices of the Payman family.
1251
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:53.239
We hear a little bit of that singing intermingled, and
1252
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:58.880
she's like freaking out, and then we see we see
1253
01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:01.639
something in the lobby. Oh, and it creeped me out
1254
01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:04.760
so much. We see something in the lobby and it
1255
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:09.760
starts dragging across the floor, and it's a dead body
1256
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:14.760
with a bloody sack over the head, and it's being
1257
01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:18.239
dragged across the floor without anything dragging it.
1258
01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:22.000
But it becomes apparent as like on the second pole,
1259
01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:25.359
that it's being pulled by something. You just can't see, yeah,
1260
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.319
because at first you're like, oh, it's being pushed, but
1261
01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:28.960
then you start to notice that it's kind of like
1262
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:31.800
if you're pulling somebody by their shoulders. Yeah, like the
1263
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:34.520
body is going that way, it's going up a little bit,
1264
01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:36.039
but then it goes.
1265
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:41.000
Even more because then it starts being lifted again. Something
1266
01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:45.239
is lifting up this apparition of a dead body and
1267
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:48.359
lifting it up off the ground, and then it's just
1268
01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:53.119
kind of like hanging there in the air, just hanging out.
1269
01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:56.159
And it's effective. It was definitely wire work. There was
1270
01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:58.439
no Yeah, there's no way that that was I mean,
1271
01:08:58.479 --> 01:09:00.279
I guess there is some way, but I just don't
1272
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:01.960
buy that it was done with CGI. I think that
1273
01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.199
it was because it just looked so legitimate. The weight
1274
01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:08.119
was too real, the way it was hanging and everything exactly. Yeah,
1275
01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:12.720
and also like it just yeah, it just felt like
1276
01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:16.079
wire work to me, which is not impossible to do.
1277
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:18.600
Like if it was a harnet. I'm just a little
1278
01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:21.640
inside baseball with the filmmaking stuff. But like if it's
1279
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:24.560
just a harness like wirework, that's dangerous as stuff like
1280
01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:27.399
faking somebody being hung by a rope, right because there's
1281
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:29.640
some kind of a connection to their neck. It could whatever,
1282
01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:32.199
although there are plenty of safeguards to make sure it doesn't
1283
01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:35.000
hurt anybody. But you know, wirework where it's literally somebody
1284
01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:38.760
being lifted under their shoulders, that's pretty relatively easy to do.
1285
01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:42.479
And then in post you would just digitally remove the wires.
1286
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:43.119
It's pretty simple.
1287
01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:47.359
Well, and it was beautifully shot too because the lobby
1288
01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:49.159
was all in shadows, so it would have been so
1289
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:53.239
much easier to hide the wires anyway. And again because
1290
01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:55.520
of the way the camera was facing, the camera's facing
1291
01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:59.279
through the hallway into just one tiny corner of the lobby,
1292
01:09:59.479 --> 01:10:03.479
so it would be so easy to hide crew doing wirework.
1293
01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:07.119
So again, this this movie just kind of goes to
1294
01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:08.479
show that less is more.
1295
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:11.800
Less is so much more With this story and this.
1296
01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:17.399
Film so so this body's hanging there, and clearly now
1297
01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:20.479
it is a representation of one of the family members
1298
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:22.920
who hung themselves, because it's just hanging in the air,
1299
01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:24.680
just kind of there by.
1300
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:26.640
An invisible rope. We would assume, we.
1301
01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:29.439
Would, I mean, that's all that it could be. Right,
1302
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:33.039
So then she starts hearing screaming from down the hall,
1303
01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:36.279
and it's the homeless man, right, she books it down
1304
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:40.039
the hall. There's blood all over the inside of the cell,
1305
01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:43.600
inside the window, you know. And and at first like
1306
01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:45.760
she sees him like banging on the door, like let
1307
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:48.600
me out, let me out, And then he turns and
1308
01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:52.800
turns back, and his face is mutilated. He doesn't have
1309
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:56.079
eyelids anymore, they've been cut out, and his face is
1310
01:10:56.119 --> 01:11:00.199
all pale. She swings open the door. Well that it's
1311
01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:04.039
not there anymore, but the homeless man has hung himself
1312
01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:04.920
in the cell.
1313
01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:07.439
You confuse this gag just a little bit. I No,
1314
01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.800
this was the one where he was standing in the hallway.
1315
01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:13.399
And no, because and the only reason I can, I'm well,
1316
01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:16.680
actually is because this was such a great shocker moment. No,
1317
01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:19.479
he is facing away from her in the hallway. She
1318
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:21.800
demands he gets down on the ground. He does, and
1319
01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:24.239
when she gets on his back to handcuff him, the
1320
01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:26.520
lights cut out, and when they cut back on, he's
1321
01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:28.760
facing her and his eyelids are gone.
1322
01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:31.479
That's what it was, and it's so so crazy.
1323
01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:34.520
But then the light's cut off again and he's gone.
1324
01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:37.159
She runs to the room because earlier he was begging
1325
01:11:37.199 --> 01:11:40.479
to be let out. She was like, no, yeah, but
1326
01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:42.279
she goes back to the room opens up, and yeah,
1327
01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:44.720
he's hanging in the cell, dead as a door nail,
1328
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:48.039
I mean letting. His eyes are open and he's just
1329
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:50.680
dead in his hands, and I love that they as
1330
01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:52.359
they show his body kind of hanging in there, kind
1331
01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:54.640
of slowly turning, they cut to behind him and you
1332
01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:57.840
see his hands are still handcuffed behind his back. So
1333
01:11:57.920 --> 01:11:59.960
he could not have hung himself. There's no way.
1334
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:00.520
Mm hmm.
1335
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:03.000
You know, he's basically I mean, he's Epstein at that point.
1336
01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:10.920
So things continue to escalate. That's that's what I like
1337
01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:14.880
is every time I thought like, oh, this is this
1338
01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:18.000
is the batshit crazy part of the movie, then it
1339
01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.359
would get batshit crazier and I'm like, okay, wait.
1340
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:23.079
What it's scary what just happened?
1341
01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:23.239
Though?
1342
01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:30.760
So she she she sees that, and then she starts
1343
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:34.880
hearing more singing down the hallway, and it's all women's
1344
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:38.039
voices now, and it's kind of you know that sing song.
1345
01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:42.960
Church like yeah, yeah, like like not like like Sunday school,
1346
01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:45.399
Like is it better way to put it? Yeah? Yeah.
1347
01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:48.039
So she she walks down the hall she opens a
1348
01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:51.239
door and there's another room, and at the end of
1349
01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:55.079
the room is like one of those big room length mirrors,
1350
01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:59.279
and there's a semicircle of women all sitting around singing,
1351
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:04.880
you know, holding hands, and in the mirror they look
1352
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:09.039
totally normal. But as she walks through the room, they
1353
01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:11.800
all slowly one by one turn to look at her,
1354
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:15.640
and all of them are wearing bags over their faces,
1355
01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:18.640
with faces painted in blood.
1356
01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:22.520
Yes, And meanwhile theirselves in the mirror are just still.
1357
01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:25.560
Just sitting they're singing. It's it's just another day in
1358
01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:26.560
paradise for them.
1359
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:29.600
But then when the lights cut out, they're all gone.
1360
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:32.600
Yeah, lights cut out, him back on and they're all gone.
1361
01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:35.319
So she finally runs and she's like, Okay, I can't
1362
01:13:35.319 --> 01:13:39.279
do this anymore. So she calls Sergeant Cohen again and
1363
01:13:39.359 --> 01:13:42.319
actually gets through to him this time, and he's back
1364
01:13:42.359 --> 01:13:44.840
to being his kind of like gruff, mean self, and
1365
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:46.960
she's like, look, I can't I can't do this. I
1366
01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.319
just can't do this. I can't do this shift and
1367
01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:51.039
he's like, well, what's going on?
1368
01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:53.199
The first is the place on fire?
1369
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:53.960
No?
1370
01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:55.640
Are you going to die?
1371
01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:56.760
No?
1372
01:13:56.760 --> 01:14:01.159
No? Then you calling? You know, I wish I hope
1373
01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:03.439
to live my whole life with the level of confidence
1374
01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:06.520
she had, she wasn't going to die because answer.
1375
01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:08.840
Would have been yes, yes, the place is on fire,
1376
01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:10.479
and yes I am going to die right, I.
1377
01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:13.920
Am currently on fire as well as the building, and
1378
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:16.359
I have Osama bin lad he's not dead.
1379
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:19.119
Yeah. Whatever, What do I have to say to get
1380
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:19.479
you here?
1381
01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:21.800
Yeah? No shit, yeah but yeah. So he's just like
1382
01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:25.159
he's just like, do you want me to call the
1383
01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:28.319
chief and give him your resignation because you can't do
1384
01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:33.600
this job. And she's just immediately totally beat down. Yeah, brutal,
1385
01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:36.520
and then she says no, and he's like, don't call
1386
01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:38.319
me again. He just hangs up.
1387
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:41.640
Ye, and he's he's like, the hazmat team is coming,
1388
01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:47.600
Do not leave until they get here. Hang up? So done.
1389
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:50.279
The phone rings as soon as she hangs up and
1390
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:54.760
it's Monica again, and Monica saying like I was able
1391
01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:58.000
to escape. I was able to get out. I'm free.
1392
01:14:58.079 --> 01:14:58.439
I'm free.
1393
01:14:58.479 --> 01:14:59.840
I don't know what happened to the other girls. I'
1394
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:03.119
I'm free. And so Officer Lauren's like, okay, you need
1395
01:15:03.159 --> 01:15:04.840
to find something something.
1396
01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:07.199
Is there a weapon to protect yourself?
1397
01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:09.640
Like can you find somewhere safe? I need you to
1398
01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:14.960
get to safety, defend yourself and then call cuts out.
1399
01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:18.199
So she calls the other officers.
1400
01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:20.399
Again, dispatch this time not not the not the.
1401
01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:24.079
She calls dispatch again and she's like, look, I keep
1402
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:27.600
getting this girl. She says she's escaped. She said that
1403
01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:32.159
she's being pursued by members of the Payment family, and
1404
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:34.600
the guy gives her a reference number. He's like, Okay, look,
1405
01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:38.640
I don't this is not happening. One two, I'm gonna
1406
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:41.479
humor you if this is happening. Here's the case number
1407
01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:43.119
that you can call in reference to.
1408
01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:46.399
Yeah, And he says like the the you know this
1409
01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:48.760
is not happening or maybe it's some kind of a
1410
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:52.560
weird yeah, but I don't think.
1411
01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:54.880
So she.
1412
01:15:56.399 --> 01:16:00.399
Kind of she kind of buys it that may this
1413
01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:04.079
is a trick, but now things have been happening so much,
1414
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:06.840
so frequently. There's so much going on that she really
1415
01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:13.399
she's having a hard time letting it go. And then
1416
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:15.800
he says, well, it's possible that this is a sick
1417
01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:22.680
joke or it could be something else, and she's like, okay,
1418
01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:27.640
what what kind of something else? And he explains that
1419
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:31.880
the Payment family, you know, the story that everyone's been
1420
01:16:31.880 --> 01:16:34.560
told is that they were killed before they were even
1421
01:16:35.039 --> 01:16:41.399
brought into custody, and that's not true. They were apprehended alive,
1422
01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:48.720
came to this station and committed suicide, and ever since then,
1423
01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:50.479
weird things have been happening.
1424
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:53.479
Yeah, he said it wasn't He says something like, you know,
1425
01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:56.439
you don't think it was rust and and and you
1426
01:16:56.479 --> 01:16:58.560
know asbestos that made us move out of there. It
1427
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:02.960
was with something else. Ever since then, lights would turn
1428
01:17:03.039 --> 01:17:06.319
on and off on their own, and we'd hear things
1429
01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:07.119
over the voices.
1430
01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:10.279
And then he says, people who were kept in that
1431
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:15.359
cell would kill themselves, so we had to get out.
1432
01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:22.520
And then she sees a paper just float across the.
1433
01:17:22.479 --> 01:17:25.039
Floor coming from the open doorway.
1434
01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:27.199
Coming from the open door, like someone just kind of
1435
01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:30.960
threw it through it flipped through the door, and so
1436
01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:32.560
she's like, Okay, look, I can't.
1437
01:17:33.039 --> 01:17:36.399
She's mesmerized by it. Oh I have to, and she
1438
01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:38.359
hangs up on It's the one time that somebody was
1439
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:41.600
giving her something useful and she can't focus on it
1440
01:17:41.640 --> 01:17:46.760
because this strange photograph. But what is on that photograph,
1441
01:17:46.840 --> 01:17:49.399
Well you'll have to wait until after this break to
1442
01:17:49.479 --> 01:18:05.000
find out. So now Officer Lauren has found a strange
1443
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:08.159
photograph by the door.
1444
01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:12.199
And so she picks it up, and it's a crime
1445
01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:17.680
scene photo of someone who's been shot. She looks closer
1446
01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:19.640
and it's the same man that we saw in the
1447
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:26.079
photograph with the child. It's her father, yes, And then
1448
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:29.560
she looks further in the hall and there are crime
1449
01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:34.520
scene photos i'd say about a dozen and a half
1450
01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:38.560
all over, scattered around, just scattered around, and she looks
1451
01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:42.239
closer at one and it's Officer Price.
1452
01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:49.079
Among many dead women and their faces are bashed in unrecutilizable, horrific.
1453
01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:51.399
But yeah, the big one is Officer Price. And not
1454
01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:54.920
only is he there, but he looks like he'd been
1455
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:58.119
shot through the mouth, out the back of his head
1456
01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:00.479
again and the wall has his brain matter on it,
1457
01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:05.119
which you know that fits with the.
1458
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:10.680
It's that tracks that tracks. So she's sitting there looking
1459
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:13.479
and kind of shaking at the picture of her dad,
1460
01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:15.600
and then she looks back in the hall and now
1461
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:21.600
there's hundreds of pictures and they're perfect yea perfectly down
1462
01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:27.279
the entire hall. She starts hearing more voices and then
1463
01:19:27.319 --> 01:19:32.199
she just passes out. And when she comes too, we
1464
01:19:32.239 --> 01:19:36.439
can hear the phone in the office bringing off the hook,
1465
01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:40.359
and we can hear buzzing, and then buzzing gets louder
1466
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:42.880
and louder and louder, and we realize it's her cell phone.
1467
01:19:42.920 --> 01:19:46.239
She picks up. It's her mom, and her mom, in
1468
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:49.600
typical mom fashion, now wants to apologize and have a
1469
01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:52.760
heartfelt conversation at the exact moment when you do not
1470
01:19:52.960 --> 01:19:57.079
want to be emotionally distracted or distraught at all. And
1471
01:19:57.159 --> 01:19:59.399
her mom's, oh, no, I just I feel bad about
1472
01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:02.000
earlier how we ended the conversation, and she's trying to
1473
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:04.600
be like, Mom, I can't talk right now at all.
1474
01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:08.199
Some things are going on. It's oh, well, I just
1475
01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:10.800
I see you know, I see where you're coming from,
1476
01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:13.039
and you want to make your dad proud, and Mom,
1477
01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:17.000
I have to go, So she hangs up. She gets up,
1478
01:20:17.079 --> 01:20:21.840
and then she realizes her gun, her taser, her nightstick,
1479
01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:23.960
everything on her belt.
1480
01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:26.880
Her whole belt is gone. The belt has gone entirely.
1481
01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:30.600
So where is it? So she starts looking around. She's
1482
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:34.760
walking down the hallway, and we see a shadow retreat
1483
01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:38.880
into a partially closed door, and then a hand with
1484
01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:41.520
the nightstick just whammer right across the head.
1485
01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:48.119
It's a retractable betime, but still whatever it is.
1486
01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:53.359
So then she comes to again and there's a woman
1487
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:56.680
dragging her, has her hands, you know, kind of tied up,
1488
01:20:56.920 --> 01:20:59.199
woman dragging her, and as it has her gun to
1489
01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:04.479
her head. And now Officer Lauren doesn't know is this
1490
01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:08.000
really happening? Is this not happening? Is she just dreaming
1491
01:21:08.039 --> 01:21:08.479
it is?
1492
01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:11.880
She actually feels pretty confident it's not happening.
1493
01:21:12.079 --> 01:21:15.079
She's like, this is I'm just going crazy. This is
1494
01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:18.399
just a crazy hour right now. And so the lady
1495
01:21:18.439 --> 01:21:23.079
sits her down and starts explaining that she was in
1496
01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:27.199
love with John Michael Payman and she hates the fact
1497
01:21:27.279 --> 01:21:30.640
that that night he took those two bitches with him
1498
01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:34.079
instead of bringing her, and she's been waiting to be
1499
01:21:34.199 --> 01:21:39.119
reunited with him, and tonight's the one year anniversary of
1500
01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:41.199
when he was apprehended and he killed himself.
1501
01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:42.199
Did she say one year?
1502
01:21:42.319 --> 01:21:43.119
She said one year?
1503
01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:47.439
Huh okay, because when they show them being interviewed, they're
1504
01:21:47.479 --> 01:21:50.399
like being interviewed on like ancient videos, yeah and stuff.
1505
01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:53.039
But maybe that's on purpose to just keep us on
1506
01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:53.600
our toes.
1507
01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:57.079
I think it was to just muddy the waters. Hey,
1508
01:21:57.119 --> 01:21:58.800
I like it, and you know what, to be fair,
1509
01:21:58.920 --> 01:22:01.800
this woman is so insane, maybe ten years feels like
1510
01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:02.640
just one year term.
1511
01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:06.199
We also don't know if she's a ghost or not,
1512
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:09.159
because yeah, we don't know, Like that's one of my
1513
01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:12.880
favorite things. I don't have the confidence to say anything
1514
01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:13.760
is for certain.
1515
01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:18.279
And here's why, here's why it gets even more confusing
1516
01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:21.279
because now Officer Lauren's feeling a little cocky. She's like,
1517
01:22:21.319 --> 01:22:23.439
I don't even think you're here. How do I know
1518
01:22:23.479 --> 01:22:26.840
that I'm not actually holding my own gun right now?
1519
01:22:27.479 --> 01:22:30.199
And the lady says, well, I'm pretty confident about it,
1520
01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:32.039
turns the gun and blows her own bright out.
1521
01:22:32.359 --> 01:22:35.359
Well, she says that that's how she's gonna celebrate his uh,
1522
01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:39.800
celebrate his return or whatever, and yeah, she just boom,
1523
01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:41.359
I mean all.
1524
01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:44.439
Over the wall. Yeah, I feel really bad that they
1525
01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:47.880
did not keep the janitors on staff because or feel
1526
01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:50.960
good for the janitor. I felt they weren't that they
1527
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:56.760
weren't on call. So as Officer Lawrence just kind of
1528
01:22:57.600 --> 01:23:01.279
kind of they're like, okay, that just happened. Yeah, the
1529
01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:06.319
phone rings again. She runs to the office and it's Monica.
1530
01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:09.159
She takes her gun back from the dead hand of
1531
01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:12.560
the woman and grabs her belt and then goes, which
1532
01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:14.960
I just want to mention because in the realm of
1533
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:20.880
horror movie choices, that is the wisest one except what
1534
01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:23.800
we'll get accept Except so.
1535
01:23:25.239 --> 01:23:28.600
She goes and picks up the phone call. It's Monica again,
1536
01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:33.920
and now Monica's sounding like devious, yeah, like not herself.
1537
01:23:34.279 --> 01:23:38.079
Like before she was panicky, and now she almost seems
1538
01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:41.680
like she's the one toying with Lauren. And then the
1539
01:23:41.760 --> 01:23:46.000
desk starts to shake and rattle, and like some of
1540
01:23:46.039 --> 01:23:49.359
the drawers are like coming loose and moving on their own,
1541
01:23:50.239 --> 01:23:57.319
and as Officer Lauren leans back, this ghoule that's the
1542
01:23:57.319 --> 01:24:01.159
only way I can describe it. They just scuttles out
1543
01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:04.159
from under the desk and Officer Lauren, you know, she
1544
01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:08.720
leaps back, she leaps into a corner and this creature, uh,
1545
01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:11.479
you know, used to be a girl, but its face
1546
01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:17.279
is all distorted and everything starts climbing around the office
1547
01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:21.159
and doing the cool contortionists stuff that I just I
1548
01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:25.520
love when contortionists do that to make monsters even scary,
1549
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:30.760
even scarier. And Officer Lauren's cowering in the corner as
1550
01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:33.600
this creature kind of reaches out to her and then
1551
01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:39.720
the lights flash and she's hearing voices, but the thing's gone.
1552
01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:42.000
So this was the moment where, you know, all the
1553
01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:43.600
other moments, I was like, oh, this is where shit
1554
01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:45.399
has the fan, Like, this is where it gets real
1555
01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:48.640
bat shit crazy. This is where it got so crazy
1556
01:24:48.760 --> 01:24:52.520
that I just stopped taking notes because so much was happening.
1557
01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:56.800
Sure, mean, what more could you note at that point?
1558
01:24:57.159 --> 01:25:04.359
So from there after, Lauren starts hearing voices. She starts
1559
01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:10.159
hearing people like break into the building. And now she's
1560
01:25:10.239 --> 01:25:15.399
actually seeing people, more people, not just the ghostly operations,
1561
01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:20.079
but she's seeing people taunt her. And they're clearly, you know,
1562
01:25:20.359 --> 01:25:22.720
almost like a Scooby Doo chase. They're walking down the
1563
01:25:22.720 --> 01:25:25.000
hall and they'll book it into one room. She'll follow
1564
01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:26.880
them and then they'll come out the other door, and
1565
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:32.640
she'll keep following and so finally she's able to get
1566
01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:34.920
a good beat on one.
1567
01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:38.840
Well that's after her phone rings and it's her father.
1568
01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:41.119
Oh to see. That's the part that I forgot to
1569
01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:41.439
write it.
1570
01:25:41.439 --> 01:25:45.960
Down, which is the part that I think is really telling,
1571
01:25:46.600 --> 01:25:50.039
because he calls her when she's trying to escape. That
1572
01:25:50.079 --> 01:25:53.039
happens right before everything goes berserk. She can't get the
1573
01:25:53.039 --> 01:25:55.159
door to unlock. She tries shooting the door and the
1574
01:25:55.159 --> 01:25:57.960
bullets don't do anything to the door, and then the
1575
01:25:58.039 --> 01:25:59.560
phone rings and he's like, I'm really proud of you,
1576
01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:01.279
and she's like, you know yeah, And he's like, so
1577
01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:05.560
why do you try to leave. You're supposed to do
1578
01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:08.119
your job. You know, I died in the line of duty.
1579
01:26:08.319 --> 01:26:10.359
I expect you to do the same if you have to.
1580
01:26:11.399 --> 01:26:14.279
So now she's like yeah, dad, and she goes back
1581
01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:17.800
in as things are getting crazy. Phone rings again. It's
1582
01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:21.600
Dad again, and Dad's like, the people who killed me
1583
01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:24.199
are in the building right now. I need you to
1584
01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:28.359
take care of it. And she's just kind of like
1585
01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:33.880
all right, And now we have this crazed almost and
1586
01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:37.039
I don't mean this to be funny, but almost a
1587
01:26:37.159 --> 01:26:41.000
laser tag like experience. Yeah, because lights are coming and
1588
01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:43.680
going and people are running by and coming back again,
1589
01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:47.319
and they're also firing guns back at her, which I'm
1590
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:50.960
assuming is kind of like a repeat of the firefight
1591
01:26:51.399 --> 01:26:55.159
that was referenced that had happened, and she's trying to
1592
01:26:55.199 --> 01:26:59.199
get these sons of bitches and it is It is nuts.
1593
01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:01.439
They're running around, they of bags, they have the bags
1594
01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:07.039
on their heads, and eventually she gets one boom, blood
1595
01:27:07.079 --> 01:27:10.439
splatters the wall, their bodies down. Now she's getting brave,
1596
01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:15.840
she's getting confident, she's really going after them, and things
1597
01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:18.960
are about to get a lot harrier right after this,
1598
01:27:31.560 --> 01:27:37.159
as she's running through and having this epic gunfight with ghosts.
1599
01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:42.159
It's a hell of a sequence. And the whole time
1600
01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:45.439
you're kind of wondering, like what is happening, Like is
1601
01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:52.520
she reliving the nightmare for a purpose or is there
1602
01:27:52.840 --> 01:27:58.079
more to come? And at one point I can't I
1603
01:27:58.119 --> 01:28:00.199
can't remember if this was after this or before, but
1604
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:03.479
there's a part where she is in the holding cell
1605
01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:10.199
and we basically see on a sheet projected what happened.
1606
01:28:11.039 --> 01:28:13.199
We see them putting the bags on their heads and
1607
01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:17.920
drawing pentagrams on their their own sheets with their hands,
1608
01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:21.840
which they bit till they bled, and hanging themselves. But
1609
01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:24.199
as we watch this sheet and we see her reactions
1610
01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:27.039
that we watched the sheet, the guy what was his name,
1611
01:28:27.159 --> 01:28:31.199
the John Michael Payment, John Michael Payman, we realize that
1612
01:28:31.279 --> 01:28:33.479
he has the sackle on his head and he's actually
1613
01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:38.720
in the room and not on this sheet. And as
1614
01:28:38.760 --> 01:28:40.520
he takes the sheet off, we get what is the
1615
01:28:40.640 --> 01:28:43.560
artwork on the front cover of the movie, this terrifying
1616
01:28:44.039 --> 01:28:50.079
face with with yellow eyes, needlelike teeth, and a pentagram
1617
01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:55.479
carved into his face. He screams and and and shit
1618
01:28:55.640 --> 01:28:57.640
just gets crazier and crazier from there. As she is
1619
01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:00.520
in this gunfight trying to to survive.
1620
01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:03.600
Yeah, so she I mean she is, she is fighting
1621
01:29:03.640 --> 01:29:06.079
for her life. But again her confidence is up, especially
1622
01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:10.239
after she hit that first guy. She sees that apparition
1623
01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:15.520
and that is her confirmation that it's the Payment family
1624
01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:19.560
come back. Yes, And so she just starts shooting even
1625
01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:22.640
harder because like now she knows, like the Payment families
1626
01:29:22.680 --> 01:29:26.439
come back. They're trying to do whatever with this building
1627
01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:29.479
or with you know who knows well.
1628
01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:31.880
And the incident with the psycho lady who shot herself
1629
01:29:31.960 --> 01:29:32.880
would lean.
1630
01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:36.439
Yeah, you'd be like, okay, well, clearly it's all them.
1631
01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:41.840
So she shoots the second guy, and then we start
1632
01:29:41.880 --> 01:29:48.520
getting these flashes of something else. It's her shooting, but
1633
01:29:48.600 --> 01:29:51.840
it's someone screaming out help, why did you shoot me?
1634
01:29:52.479 --> 01:29:55.840
It's me Joe, I called about this earlier. And then
1635
01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:58.760
it goes back. Maybe I'm mixing it up a little bit,
1636
01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:02.920
but then we start seeing her fire at the last
1637
01:30:03.039 --> 01:30:06.560
guy and it's not one of the family members. It's
1638
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:09.279
somebody in a hazmat suit. And then it flashes back
1639
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:10.600
to what she was seeing.
1640
01:30:11.039 --> 01:30:14.159
Uh, well that's after. That's the big reveal, after she
1641
01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:17.720
kills them. Yeah, yeah, you just got it slightly mixed up. Basically,
1642
01:30:17.800 --> 01:30:20.199
she she shoots a guy that's trying to get out
1643
01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:23.000
the back door who has a gun and he's saying
1644
01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:27.279
like he's he's saying mean things. He's just like, oh whatever, whatever,
1645
01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:30.479
So he shoots him dead, and then as she's standing there,
1646
01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:34.159
she turns around, she gets shot, and then we it's
1647
01:30:34.199 --> 01:30:38.359
revealed that it's her commanding officer, he who just shot her,
1648
01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:42.479
and then we see the events again, and that's when
1649
01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:45.439
we see that she's killing all the hazmat people and
1650
01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:47.920
the last guy she shot. The reason there was that
1651
01:30:47.960 --> 01:30:50.039
long stretch before he shot him again was he was saying,
1652
01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:52.479
I'm the guy I talked to on the phone, and
1653
01:30:52.520 --> 01:30:54.359
she says, drop the gun. He's like, please don't do this.
1654
01:30:54.560 --> 01:30:56.479
Imagine how terrifying him if you've been shot once and
1655
01:30:56.520 --> 01:30:58.760
your hands are empty and you here drop the gun,
1656
01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:01.359
you know. Yeah, and she it's him dead. So now
1657
01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:05.680
she's she's laying there against this wall, bleeding out. The
1658
01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:07.239
cop is looking at her and he just has this
1659
01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:09.800
look of like, God, damn it. I should have known
1660
01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:12.800
she was gonna like just break like I can't believe this,
1661
01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:15.399
you know, I trust the rookie, yeah, you know, or
1662
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:17.880
whatever it may be. And then he calls in his
1663
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:20.039
radio says, we have an officer down, and we have
1664
01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:23.399
and he starts, you know, giving off cop number things
1665
01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:25.880
that I don't know exactly what they what they mean.
1666
01:31:26.399 --> 01:31:29.279
And as she's laying there bleeding out, it becomes clear
1667
01:31:29.319 --> 01:31:31.680
she's probably not gonna make it because he shot her
1668
01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:36.079
center masts. And as we see her perspective of the
1669
01:31:36.119 --> 01:31:38.760
cop shining the light of her commanding officer shine the
1670
01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:43.319
light in her face, the two girls and the the
1671
01:31:43.359 --> 01:31:46.159
cult leader step in front of that light and they
1672
01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:48.760
look at her and they kind of look around and
1673
01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:52.039
his eyes are are are yellow and his teeth are
1674
01:31:52.159 --> 01:31:57.880
needlelike and he puts a sack over her head. Credits.
1675
01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:02.920
So and that is that is the last shift or
1676
01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:05.600
last shift. That is the film. Yeah, I mean it
1677
01:32:05.680 --> 01:32:11.560
is about as impactful as you can get, very very much.
1678
01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:15.600
So yeah, and I I yeah, So, I mean this
1679
01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:17.079
is your first time seeing the film.
1680
01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:20.399
It was and I I did not know what to
1681
01:32:20.520 --> 01:32:22.880
expect going into it. I think all you told me
1682
01:32:23.039 --> 01:32:26.680
was it's just a ghost story. Yeah, which is true,
1683
01:32:26.800 --> 01:32:31.479
like you it is. But what I what I really
1684
01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:36.920
enjoyed it was, well, one the less is more. There
1685
01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:40.039
is so much going on in this movie, but there's
1686
01:32:40.199 --> 01:32:44.239
they put so little into it, not like low effort,
1687
01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:47.079
but just like they weren't saying like, hey, let's use
1688
01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:50.359
you know all this all these cgi effects and everything.
1689
01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:52.680
It's like, oh, well, how scary can it? Can it
1690
01:32:52.680 --> 01:32:58.159
be if we just make sure that some dark colored uh,
1691
01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:02.760
some dark colored colored liquid comes out of the microphone
1692
01:33:02.800 --> 01:33:04.800
receiver of the phone while she's talking to the Like
1693
01:33:06.399 --> 01:33:08.800
that was super duper creepy. I even turned to you
1694
01:33:08.840 --> 01:33:11.039
and I was like, oh, I know that's hersh syrup,
1695
01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:15.439
But it's so much creepier because of the anticipation and
1696
01:33:15.479 --> 01:33:19.159
the build up of it. And again, like, how scary
1697
01:33:19.279 --> 01:33:22.359
can it be if the ghosts are just people in,
1698
01:33:23.239 --> 01:33:25.800
you know, with a mask on their head and just
1699
01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:27.800
a little you know, throw a little bit of blood around,
1700
01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:30.800
but you make sure the lighting is poor, and suddenly
1701
01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:32.359
it's really really creepy.
1702
01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:35.640
We're very afraid of what we can't see. Yeah, very
1703
01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:37.479
consistent human experience for sure.
1704
01:33:38.520 --> 01:33:42.600
So and again her acting was just spot on. It
1705
01:33:42.720 --> 01:33:44.840
kept me in it because again, if it would have
1706
01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:48.399
been way too over the top, way too overreacted, then
1707
01:33:48.399 --> 01:33:50.720
I would have totally lost it because it's like, I
1708
01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:52.800
can't feel like, why would you even want to be
1709
01:33:52.840 --> 01:33:55.560
a cop if you are that scared of everything all
1710
01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:55.960
the time.
1711
01:33:56.159 --> 01:34:00.520
One of the hardest parts of writing horror films is
1712
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:05.760
how do you keep your main character from just running
1713
01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:09.880
to the hills, heading directly into a police station or whatever,
1714
01:34:10.279 --> 01:34:12.680
or just getting on a plane to Albuquerque, Like, how
1715
01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:16.159
do you how do you keep them in? Because that's
1716
01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:19.119
a very that's a big question, that's a big challenge.
1717
01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:22.119
How do you keep them in mhm. It's it's not
1718
01:34:22.319 --> 01:34:25.359
easy at all, and a lot of times you have
1719
01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:29.640
to come up with things like this character constantly gaslighting herself,
1720
01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:33.119
which I thought was brilliant, that she's she thinks that
1721
01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:35.720
she's the problem and that she just needs to nut
1722
01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:38.840
up because she wants to be strong enough for this job.
1723
01:34:38.840 --> 01:34:42.159
It doesn't believe she is. That's a really smart way
1724
01:34:42.880 --> 01:34:46.119
to keep her invested, to keep her going and going
1725
01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:50.000
and going. M So I thought that that was very
1726
01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:51.600
masterfully thought out.
1727
01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:54.880
Oh absolutely. And the other thing is, you know, you
1728
01:34:54.920 --> 01:34:59.479
had mentioned at the start of the show that you know,
1729
01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:03.079
kind of Downer Dower endings, you feel like they have
1730
01:35:03.199 --> 01:35:06.079
to be earned, and I feel like this movie definitely
1731
01:35:06.079 --> 01:35:09.840
earned it in Space because it was it was around
1732
01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:13.720
about the middle of the third act where I was
1733
01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:17.359
kind of realizing, like, I don't think there's a happy
1734
01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:20.199
ending for Officer Lauren.
1735
01:35:20.439 --> 01:35:20.640
No.
1736
01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:25.079
I don't think there could be, because I don't think
1737
01:35:25.119 --> 01:35:29.439
the story was about redemption or you know, saving herself
1738
01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:32.840
or saving anyone else as much as it was her
1739
01:35:35.119 --> 01:35:41.119
totally losing herself to the expectations of her father that
1740
01:35:41.359 --> 01:35:43.520
you know, in the end, if she could, if she
1741
01:35:43.600 --> 01:35:45.680
could have been like, you know what, screw it, dad,
1742
01:35:47.039 --> 01:35:52.000
I don't want to die. Well, one, she probably would
1743
01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:54.600
not have put herself in that situation in the first place.
1744
01:35:55.319 --> 01:36:00.680
And two that would have made the ending different, you know.
1745
01:36:00.760 --> 01:36:03.800
And I think that her being so absorbed in what
1746
01:36:04.039 --> 01:36:07.960
her deceased father thought of her, just like you were saying,
1747
01:36:08.600 --> 01:36:11.960
you know, it's kind of a hell when you want
1748
01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:14.840
to live up to the expectations of someone who is
1749
01:36:14.920 --> 01:36:17.000
no longer with us, because you are never going to
1750
01:36:17.039 --> 01:36:20.920
get any kind of satisfaction out of it. Yeah, and
1751
01:36:20.520 --> 01:36:24.319
she's you know, living that, and she died due to that.
1752
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:27.600
So I thought that it was a very well earned
1753
01:36:28.279 --> 01:36:28.920
dark ending.
1754
01:36:29.239 --> 01:36:31.560
Yeah, I would agree, and I'm gonna talk I have
1755
01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:35.039
some theories, little theories and thoughts about the ending, and
1756
01:36:35.079 --> 01:36:36.720
I'm going to talk about those. But we got to
1757
01:36:36.720 --> 01:36:38.680
take a real quick break and we'll be right back.
1758
01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:54.479
So now that we've reached the end of last Shift
1759
01:36:55.359 --> 01:36:59.439
and the dour ending that it is, I agree. One
1760
01:36:59.479 --> 01:37:04.680
of the big themes I think is kind of expectation
1761
01:37:06.279 --> 01:37:09.399
of like you living up to expectations of family members
1762
01:37:09.399 --> 01:37:12.520
and stuff like that. But I think that one of
1763
01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:14.680
the big things I took from it was that it's
1764
01:37:14.680 --> 01:37:20.640
about the kind of echo that hauntings are supposed to be.
1765
01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:24.359
They're not supposed to be something new. There's supposed to
1766
01:37:24.359 --> 01:37:29.760
be something that happened that that was so evil or
1767
01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:36.720
tragic or sad that it can't go away. It can't
1768
01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:39.239
just go away, it has to exist again, which I
1769
01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:42.039
feel like because when you look at like the long
1770
01:37:42.199 --> 01:37:46.239
history of storytelling, of human storytelling as opposed to animal
1771
01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:49.680
dog storytelling or dolphin storytelling. When you look at the
1772
01:37:49.760 --> 01:37:54.800
long history of storytelling, there are all kinds of concepts
1773
01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:57.319
where it's just something happened so bad that it can't
1774
01:37:57.319 --> 01:38:01.199
be forgotten even if nobody knows about it. Yeah, yeah,
1775
01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:04.039
that's and I think that's an element of us as
1776
01:38:04.119 --> 01:38:07.880
humans wanting to live forever, or wanting to believe that
1777
01:38:08.279 --> 01:38:10.760
if something is truly tragic, it just it will never
1778
01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:14.000
be forgotten, even though in reality, I mean the truth
1779
01:38:14.039 --> 01:38:17.920
is many things are forgotten. Like there were always those
1780
01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:19.680
old stories, you know, were like and then the mother
1781
01:38:19.800 --> 01:38:23.000
lost her child and she cried and cried until it
1782
01:38:23.079 --> 01:38:26.880
overflowed the banks of rivers, and you know, things like that.
1783
01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:30.840
That's a similar concept, although a different kind of artful
1784
01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:36.800
telling of it. So the idea to me was that
1785
01:38:38.079 --> 01:38:41.760
the suicide of this cult was a part of the
1786
01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:48.640
plan to create some kind of a hell world of sorts,
1787
01:38:48.680 --> 01:38:51.840
to create a and it had to be there because
1788
01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:54.199
the cops got them, so that was like the ultimate
1789
01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:56.159
fuck you was like, well, then we're going to open
1790
01:38:56.239 --> 01:39:00.000
this portal to a hell that you couldn't even imagine.
1791
01:39:00.159 --> 01:39:02.560
And there's a part earlier where they're talking about it
1792
01:39:02.560 --> 01:39:05.880
a little bit and basically saying like, we don't worship
1793
01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:08.720
the devil. The devil was just one of God's lackey's,
1794
01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:11.359
Like this is who do you think ran hell before
1795
01:39:11.479 --> 01:39:14.840
the devil? Like, you know, stuff like that. They're like,
1796
01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:18.680
so in the weeds with the worship of evil, you know,
1797
01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:22.680
I think that that what they did was they just
1798
01:39:22.760 --> 01:39:26.399
kind of made a hole, a hole where everybody gets
1799
01:39:26.439 --> 01:39:30.159
sucked up if it gets one chance to get into
1800
01:39:30.159 --> 01:39:34.600
your mind and with her. And they also made reference
1801
01:39:34.640 --> 01:39:38.560
to like like I'm gonna hurt every everyone you love
1802
01:39:38.680 --> 01:39:45.960
will will experience this too. So I feel like basically
1803
01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:52.680
that space exists to get you to die there as well.
1804
01:39:52.720 --> 01:39:57.039
It's actually very similar to Haunting of Hill House because
1805
01:39:57.039 --> 01:39:59.439
when you have you read Haunting of Hillhouse. Oh well,
1806
01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:01.319
I don't want to oil too much of it, even
1807
01:40:01.319 --> 01:40:04.079
though it's a very old book, but there it kind
1808
01:40:04.119 --> 01:40:09.119
of established this cliche that there are places where whatever
1809
01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:13.680
haunting is going on wants more more people to die
1810
01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:17.520
there so that their spirits are trapped there as well,
1811
01:40:17.840 --> 01:40:21.760
like almost like it's lonely in a bizarre and cruel way.
1812
01:40:22.520 --> 01:40:25.479
And I felt like that was kind of the vibe
1813
01:40:25.520 --> 01:40:28.520
I was getting from the haunting of this place was
1814
01:40:28.520 --> 01:40:33.479
that it wants more, It wants you, it wants whoever
1815
01:40:33.560 --> 01:40:36.840
it can get. But now that it was being closed down,
1816
01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:41.279
it was like its last gasp was to take the
1817
01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:45.039
daughter of the person who helped apprehend them and do
1818
01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:47.399
all these things to it. And it's kept, Like I said,
1819
01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:50.319
it's very we don't get a lot of backstory. Yeah,
1820
01:40:50.399 --> 01:40:51.840
you know, we don't get a ton of it. We
1821
01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:54.560
get just enough to appreciate what we're seeing, which I
1822
01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:57.439
think works great. Yeah, I really do. So that was
1823
01:40:57.479 --> 01:40:59.640
kind of my sense was that, like, it's the echoes
1824
01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:02.840
of thisus thing that happened, but unlike a lot of
1825
01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:05.600
haunting stories where the heinous thing that happened was kind
1826
01:41:05.600 --> 01:41:11.600
of like an injustice or cruel. In this case, it
1827
01:41:11.640 --> 01:41:15.279
was just purely evil. So it was the echo of
1828
01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:20.000
such an evil sacrifice that it just kind of made
1829
01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:24.760
this place wrong, Yeah know, deeply wrong. And that's why
1830
01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:27.479
the police eventually moved out, because you know, maybe nobody
1831
01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:29.920
was Maybe it sounded like the only people who got
1832
01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:32.760
hurt from the place where people who were there alone, Yeah,
1833
01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:36.079
people in solitary confinement or not soltary, but you know,
1834
01:41:36.279 --> 01:41:39.680
and holding or whatever would turn up dead. It sounds like,
1835
01:41:39.720 --> 01:41:41.479
you know, but it also sounds like some of those
1836
01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:45.119
cops when they were like maybe just alone in the urinal,
1837
01:41:45.159 --> 01:41:48.199
they'd be like, I hear things when I'm by myself.
1838
01:41:50.239 --> 01:41:52.840
Well, and we don't even get an explanation of what
1839
01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:58.039
Sergeant Cohen was yelling at and you know, beating up
1840
01:41:58.079 --> 01:42:00.920
in the wall and everything when she gets there, Like
1841
01:42:01.439 --> 01:42:07.039
we clearly through his tone and behavior something was going on.
1842
01:42:08.159 --> 01:42:13.600
But the fact that his demeanor changes so drastically the
1843
01:42:13.640 --> 01:42:16.840
moment she's in the room with him leads us to
1844
01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:20.079
believe that being alone in this place is probably one
1845
01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:21.760
of the worst ideas well.
1846
01:42:21.800 --> 01:42:25.199
And if we want to go really deep in those weeds,
1847
01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:28.439
he could be like everybody else and think that it's
1848
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:32.079
just a story that freaks you out and you gotta
1849
01:42:32.079 --> 01:42:34.640
get over it. Maybe he wanted somebody who didn't know
1850
01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:36.880
about it there because he was like, well, she won't
1851
01:42:37.199 --> 01:42:39.840
she won't get freaked out because she doesn't know what happened.
1852
01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:43.359
She wasn't here when the shit went down, so maybe
1853
01:42:43.359 --> 01:42:45.760
it'll just pass right by her. But like I am
1854
01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:49.359
full of you know, trauma and fear from what we
1855
01:42:49.439 --> 01:42:53.920
saw and what we continue to seem that that could
1856
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:56.479
be a part of it. Maybe maybe the benefit was
1857
01:42:56.520 --> 01:43:00.760
that she was a rookie to him, yeah, or baby
1858
01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:03.119
it wanted her. Maybe it was like, give me someone
1859
01:43:03.119 --> 01:43:05.439
else and I'll let you go. I mean, because he
1860
01:43:05.479 --> 01:43:09.239
could have been yelling at apparitions in the back room
1861
01:43:09.279 --> 01:43:12.600
because clearly they in holding is where they're the most powerful.
1862
01:43:13.479 --> 01:43:16.399
But we don't really get that. I mean, we don't
1863
01:43:16.399 --> 01:43:17.479
really get that explained.
1864
01:43:17.640 --> 01:43:18.079
Mhmm.
1865
01:43:18.840 --> 01:43:21.560
So I'd be remiss if I didn't mention there is
1866
01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:25.239
a remake of this film. Yeah, it's called Malam m
1867
01:43:25.279 --> 01:43:28.279
A L l Um. I believe it's two l's Mallam,
1868
01:43:28.640 --> 01:43:33.000
which is the name of an evil entity. It is
1869
01:43:33.079 --> 01:43:36.239
a much bigger film, probably in the two to three
1870
01:43:36.279 --> 01:43:39.039
million dollar budget range, I would guess maybe even more.
1871
01:43:39.720 --> 01:43:42.840
It was shot in Kentucky. They had a giant abandoned
1872
01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:46.039
building that they used as the location. It's literally remake.
1873
01:43:46.279 --> 01:43:49.960
Oh wow, Okay, I didn't love it. I would be
1874
01:43:50.039 --> 01:43:52.840
willing to rewatch it and give it another chance. But
1875
01:43:52.960 --> 01:43:55.720
my biggest problem was that it is not simple, it
1876
01:43:55.800 --> 01:44:01.000
is not small. I didn't find it very scary. Entirely
1877
01:44:01.119 --> 01:44:06.600
about deeply explaining the evil entity, and it's way more
1878
01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:11.680
about lore and way more about that whole element than
1879
01:44:11.720 --> 01:44:14.199
it is about just being a scary movie about somebody
1880
01:44:14.199 --> 01:44:18.880
working alone. So I often say that if if there
1881
01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:22.039
had never been a Last Shift, Mallam would have been
1882
01:44:22.079 --> 01:44:24.880
pretty good. But when I compare them, I'm like, there's
1883
01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:27.800
no comparison. Mallam is just this like really big, kind
1884
01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:33.520
of daunting, occasionally confusing movie, horror film, and the Last
1885
01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:37.000
Shift is this simple and starkly scary film. It's the
1886
01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:40.560
exact same director, of the exact same writers, so a
1887
01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:44.079
much bigger budget, and you could tell, because I mean, like,
1888
01:44:45.079 --> 01:44:48.359
every every element is bigger, and I don't think that
1889
01:44:48.359 --> 01:44:52.680
that makes it scarier, unfortunately, but I kind of see
1890
01:44:52.680 --> 01:44:56.000
where they were coming from. Making it because I get
1891
01:44:56.039 --> 01:44:59.960
that they were trying to they were trying to expand
1892
01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:02.520
on that lore that I think he was really into
1893
01:45:02.920 --> 01:45:05.640
after writing the first film, And I get that because
1894
01:45:05.640 --> 01:45:09.279
the lore is really interesting. But as a remake, it
1895
01:45:09.479 --> 01:45:13.199
just I think if I were him, although maybe it was,
1896
01:45:13.239 --> 01:45:14.560
you know, the only way you get the money was
1897
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:16.479
for it to be a remake. But I would have
1898
01:45:16.600 --> 01:45:21.039
rather made a movie that was just like a spiritual sequel. Yeah,
1899
01:45:21.079 --> 01:45:23.560
you know, just a movie in the same universe but
1900
01:45:23.680 --> 01:45:26.720
in a but like a different element because having it
1901
01:45:26.720 --> 01:45:29.720
it's literally I mean a last shift at a closed
1902
01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:33.399
down police station. There's one female guard there, her dad
1903
01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:36.119
was a cop there. But everything is spelled out like
1904
01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:39.960
very directly immediately. Oh, Like the first person she meets
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is like, oh, I knew your dad. Like it's so
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just put out there really quickly. But I think the
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thing I hold against it the most is that I
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simply found the original so painfully scary. Yeah that when
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this one was just kind of not that scary, I
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was kind of like, okay, But I, like I said,
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I would like to rewatch it because I I do
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worry that maybe I was in a bad mood with it. Too,
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because I have rewatched some movies and been like, man,
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I don't know what I was on what like tear,
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I was on about like being grumpy or some shit
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when I watched it the first time. But this is
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way way better. So but that's my thought. But I yeah,
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you just say the word, I'll we'll watch mallam oh.
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I'd be curious.
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I'd be very curious your thoughts.
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Yeah, but last shift, I just think it just hits
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so hard. So well, great ending, great beginning, great middle,
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great location use because that building's really not big, Like
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when you film enough, you know, and I can tell
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that building's not big. I can tell they reused some
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hallways because it's what we all do. It's not like
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even on big budget movies they make everything that's small
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look big. That's the way it works. So, I mean,
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most famously, the most famous example of that would be
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Tom Cruise. He's a he's a very short man. He's like,
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oh really, he's like five foot eight, five foot nine.
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Yeah that was that was a joke, but you didn't laugh,
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Which means we're gonna take a quick break and then
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we'll wrap up our conversation about this and talk a
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little bit more about what we love about horror and
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Halloween right after this You're so mean, all right, So
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as we wind down the return of cutting deep into horror,
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I really do think this was a great film to
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jump back in, especially because you were totally blind to
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this film. I just told you. I was like, it's
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pretty scary.
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Yeah, yeah, That's all you said was it's pretty scary.
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It's a ghost story.
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And I was like, okay, yeah, I mean it. And
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that's the thing. I really have always loved simple. I've
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always felt simple is generally the scariest, the scariest thing,
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so especially in movies in particular.
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Well that's that's and I can't stated enough, but that's
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what really drew me into it was within the first
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twenty minutes I realized that it's going to be one
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person in one location with very little else going on
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other than spook. And I'm so into that because you know,
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don't get me wrong, I love big budget movies. I
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love you know, big budget horror movies. But to me,
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the meat and potatoes is how much can you do
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with a bucket of blood and some bad lighting? And
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that's probably all your fault.
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I mean, that could be that very well could be.
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I mean, lighting is everything. Like we on Boggie Creek
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the series, A fortune was spent on that bigfoot costume,
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and then I was like, I am never throwing light
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at that thing? Are you kidding me? It's always going
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to be underlt that is. And then and then our
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producer praised me for he was a good job never
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lighting the suit, and I was like, thank you. So yeah,
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it's it's that's just kind of my thing. But I
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will say one last point about Mallam. Maybe the goal
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I would really like to rewatch it, actually, but maybe
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the goal just wasn't to be that scary of a
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horror movie, but to be more of an expansive horror story.
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And maybe that's maybe it just didn't connect with me
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because I'm like, oh man, it's a remake of one
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of the spoopiest movies. And then I'm like, it's not
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so spoop.
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Give me more spool.
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I need spoop. It's one of the reasons I love
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doing Weekly Spooky is because I love a short horror
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story that just leaves you going shit. Yeah. I love
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that because I enjoy a long book too, But like
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there's something about you know, getting in and getting out,
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and you're spooked. You're scared, you know. I think it's.
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A maximum spook efficiency.
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Damn right. So well, before we get out of here,
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do you want to tell the audience what we're going
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to be talking about in November around about the Thanksgiving time?
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Well, so you got to show me a movie I'd
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never seen before. So next I'm going to show you
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you a movie you haven't seen and you've been wanting
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to see for a while.
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Yeah. I just kind of missed it when it came
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out and then I never got around to it.
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So I'm going to be showing you a Killing of
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a Sacred Deer.
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Ah. That's uh. I can never remember that that director's name,
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because he did the Lobster? Right? Was see that the same?
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I rememberd thinking of somebody.
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Else, to be honest, I can't remember.
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This is the worst I know.
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I don't know why you even brought me back on
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the show.
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Uh I didn't you just showed up?
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Yeah?
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So uh no, because I know that I love this
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director's work. So let me pull up the Killing the
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Sacred Deer. Yeah, your ghost lethemos he did the lobster.
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He did that. Poor things Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's
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a very talented director and I've never seen him do horror,
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so I'm really excited to check it out because I've
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heard nothing but horrific things about that movie.
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Oh it just yeah.
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That means I have to make you watch The Lobster.
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But it won't be for the show because it's not
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a horror movie. I love The Lobster. So you're agreeing
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that if you do not find the love of your
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life in the next nine weeks or whatever it is,
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or the next four weeks, you will be turned into
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a lobster, it says here. Is that confirm a lobster? Yes,
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a lobster will be fine. I guess it's the weirdest,
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funnest movie. But no, I'm looking forward to that and
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I think it'll be perfect for the Thanksgiving season.
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I think so.
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And we might cook up a couple well, we're gonna
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cook up maybe one or two surprises for the Christmas season.
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We'll see, we'll see how it goes, but we'll definitely
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be back and we're going to do our best to
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keep this a bit more consistent now that life has
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not been so crazy. I last year it was like
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with the dogs and being sick and everything. It was
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just like very hard to make the time. But I
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do love talking about horror movies, and I love talking
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about horror movies with you, Rachel. You are so much
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fun to talk about any movie with really.
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So don't you don't have to lie?
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Okay, I hate you get out of my house, but
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now we're gonna I guess there's not much more to say.
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You know, we had a good time, and we hope
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you guys will be subscribed to the podcast here at
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Weekly Spooky. We hope you'll go to Weeklyspooky dot com
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a friend, well then I'll be your friend. You can
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tell me about my own show. So anyway, anything else
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you want to say before we get out of here.
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H Happy Halloween.
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Happy Halloween indeed, and make sure you tune in this
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Monday for a very special Halloween monthly Spooky. So now
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we'll leave you with our theme song by Ray Mattis,
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and an extra special thank you to our executive producers
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Mark Shields, Robfields and bob Altopia dot Com and my
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producer Dan Wilder. We'll see you next time, kids, Audios
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