Aug. 31, 2026

Monthly Spooky | The Great Moon Hoax, Halloween Hauntings, Bigfoot & UFOs

Monthly Spooky | The Great Moon Hoax, Halloween Hauntings, Bigfoot & UFOs
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Monthly Spooky: Weird News, Haunting Stories, And Urban Legends

Key Takeaways

  • Monthly Spooky kicks off the countdown to Halloween with paranormal news, ghost stories, cryptid sightings, and weird history.
  • The Great Moon Hoax of 1835 was a sensational nineteenth-century media story that convinced readers of life on the Moon, including bat people and beavers.
  • A new haunted renovation series features designers living and working inside Beale Manor, a reportedly haunted Ohio mansion.
  • Hosts Henrique Couto and Michelle explore spooky current events ranging from UFO reports in Brussels to strange space molecules and mysterious large cats.
  • Listeners can celebrate Henrique's upcoming 40th birthday by checking out his Amazon wishlist or sending well-wishes to the show.

Halloween season is almost here, and Monthly Spooky is kicking off the countdown with haunted houses, Bigfoot, UFOs, cryptids, unexplained mysteries—and bat people living on the Moon.

In the August 2026 edition of Monthly Spooky, Henrique Couto and Michelle are getting ready for Halloween with another strange trip through paranormal news, ghost stories, cryptid sightings, UFO and UAP reports, weird history, unexplained phenomena and creepy mysteries before diving into one of the most wonderfully bizarre media sensations of the nineteenth century: The Great Moon Hoax of 1835.

Beginning in August 1835, newspaper readers were treated to astonishing reports supposedly describing life discovered on the Moon—including extraordinary landscapes, animals, beavers and winged bat people. Henrique and Michelle dig into how the Great Moon Hoax spread, why people believed it, and how an outrageous piece of fiction became an early example of a sensational story going viral. But first, there is plenty of fresh spooky news to get everyone into the Halloween spirit.Inside this episode:

  • A new haunted renovation series sends designers into a reportedly haunted Ohio mansion, where they have to live and work inside the property while confronting its supernatural reputation.
  • The possible “Croc Ness Monster” causes a stir after what appears to be a crocodile is photographed near an Italian lake.
  • Officials in Brussels receive and examine unusual UFO and UAP reports, including material submitted by amateur astronomers.
  • A reported Bigfoot sighting in Connecticut gets the attention of cryptid investigators.
  • Scientists find a mysterious molecular signature associated with both Pluto and Titan.
  • A mysterious large cat sparks discussion near Dundee, Scotland.
  • An extremely strange planetary system raises questions about a possible enormous exomoon.
  • Seattle embraces Hot Jimothy Summer as an exceptionally round raccoon becomes an internet celebrity.
  • Sailor Matt Rutherford attempts the dangerous feat of navigating the Arctic Ocean alone.
  • Henrique shares a spoiler-free look at the dinosaur horror adventure The End of Oak Street.
  • And Michelle brings a perfectly timed Halloween haunted-house mystery involving two college students, a strange room and an archive extension that the library later claims it knows nothing about.
Then it is off to the Moon for the main event: The Great Moon Hoax of 1835, complete with lunar wildlife, bizarre civilization and the unforgettable image of humanoid bat creatures soaring across the lunar landscape.Whether you're already building your Halloween podcast playlist, looking for scary stories for spooky season, or just love ghosts, paranormal mysteries, Bigfoot, UFOs, cryptids, folklore, weird history and unexplained encounters, this month's Monthly Spooky is your early ticket into Halloween.Follow Monthly Spooky on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio or your favorite podcast app so you don't miss the next round of spooky news, strange history, paranormal stories and creepy discoveries as the countdown to Halloween continues.

🎂 Celebrate Henrique's 40th Birthday!
Henrique's 40th birthday is coming up, and as mentioned in the episode, listeners who would like to help him celebrate—or spoil him a little—can check out his Amazon birthday wishlist here. The upcoming milestone is part of the conversation at the beginning of this month's show. Henrique's Amazon Birthday Wishlist:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/LRQQR0M18M4T

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Frequently Asked Questions

What was The Great Moon Hoax of 1835?

The Great Moon Hoax was a series of fabricated newspaper articles published in 1835 that falsely claimed astronomers had discovered lush landscapes, animals, and winged bat people living on the Moon.

What is the new haunted renovation TV series mentioned in the episode?

Hosted by Anna Camp, the HGTV series challenges six brave designers to restore the notoriously haunted Beale Manor in Fremont, Ohio, while living inside the property for 31 days.

Where can listeners support Weekly Spooky and unlock bonus episodes?

Listeners can unlock exclusive bonus episodes and support the show by visiting WeeklySpooky.com/Join.

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Navigating the Arctic all alone. Hot Jimothy Summer hits America.

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The Croc Ness Monster? And mystery space molecules that no

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one can explain. Get comfortable. Turn off the lights. It's

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Monthly Spooky News. Well, hello, my spookies. It is indeed... Chella,

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you want to say it?

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Um, that's okay. You can say it.

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It is indeed that time of the month. Time for

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Monthly Spooky. I'm, of course, your host, Enrique Couto, here

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with my good buddy and co-host, Michelle. Michelle, how are you?

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Uh... radiant i see yeah yeah sure okay.

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I i want to point out that you know michelle

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threw out the idea of record we're recording this uh

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on a monday it's airing on a monday but different

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mondays um but we're recording this on a monday and

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it was michelle's idea but she's the one who shows

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up with that monday energy sorry but you you doing

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okay no but that's okay.

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That's okay.

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Why is that okay?

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Because I don't have a choice.

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Do any of us?

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I don't know. I'm just me.

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That is the most fair argument I've heard. I don't know.

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I'm just me. It's very fair. Well, I'm doing all right.

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I'm not doing too bad. You know, only having like

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three degrees of midlife crisis as I recklessly approach 40. So,

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I'll be turning 40 when this airs, it'll be like

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10 days from four zero.

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Wow.

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Yeah. So, and I'm excited because I can only assume

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since Michelle hasn't said anything that she's going to like

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show up at my house and surprise me and just

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has been really keeping it low key.

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We did just book my birthday party. Oh, okay. Yeah.

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Big shock at the cigar lounge. Um, But I had

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an idea cause I, I, I'm trying to turn like

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the 40 feels, which I thought weren't really happening until

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like two months ago. And then, Oh, I'm totally feeling

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weird ways.

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Uh, I'm trying to turn that into a positive. So

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I've like put, I put a lot of, I put

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an incredible amount of effort into getting my health under control,

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like losing weight. I'm really getting close to 40 pounds down.

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I got really close. I'm about six pounds away from

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40 pounds. And, uh, and that it hasn't been that hard,

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which I'm happy about. Um, I mean, it hasn't been

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the most fun I've ever had in my life, but

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it hasn't been too hard. Although, I mean, everything gets easier,

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everything gets easier except losing even more weight. That's the

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thing that gets less easy. But I mean, like, you know, um,

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getting comfortable and going to sleep and things like that

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just is easier when you, when you drop a couple

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of pounds. So that's been good. Um, I'm, in theory

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at some point getting a new car, which yeah. And

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I'm trying to like, even though I needed a new

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car anyway, I'm trying to shoehorn it in. Like that's me.

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a new car, even though in reality, like I need

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a new car. Yeah. See, so I'm trying to turn

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the negatives into positives. I'm trying to just say like,

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it's not that I'm, you know, freaked out about getting older.

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It's that I'm going to do better in some ways,

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you know, I'm going to like put my effort forward. Yeah.

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What are you counting on your fingers?

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I was just going to say that I had, like,

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I actually had a really good 40 until about the

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middle of December. So for the first, like, six-ish months

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that I was 40, I was, like, in a really

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great mood. So, like, maybe you'll have that.

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And then it could turn bad.

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Yeah, there you go.

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Okay, okay.

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Because 40 was, like, really, really good. I was super happy.

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because I was like into anime. I was like really

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into an anime. So yeah, but then everything just fell apart.

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You're not into anime anymore, huh?

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now it doesn't quite, it's, it's not enough. Like I'm trying,

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but it's not enough. Everything's bad.

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I felt kind of that way about my thirties as

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owning like as a decade, not as the year. Um,

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easiest thing in the world, but, uh, but yeah, I'm trying.

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And Hey, uh, if it makes you feel any better, Chell,

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I guarantee everyone would guess that you are younger than me. Consistently.

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I don't know, man.

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I am positive.

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I think everybody thinks I'm like a million years old.

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I don't know how people think of me anymore.

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I guarantee you sincerely that people would guess like, I

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don't know, since you're asking, it's gotta be a trap.

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So like 32, I don't cause like, I'm not going

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to say 27. Cause if you, if you had to ask,

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that means I'm going to be surprised.

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I don't think I look 32.

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I think you could totally pull that off.

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Okay.

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I'm just, I'm being honest. It's, it's, I mean, you

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dress like a young person. I mean, a lame young person,

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but a young person, right? See, if I add that qualifier,

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people are like, why are you being mean? If I

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add that qualifier, she can't fight me. Yeah. Because if

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I say you dress young, not good, but young, then

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she'll go, okay, yeah, I do. As long as I,

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as long as there's something negative about her in there,

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then she'll stick with it.

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But no, and you, you know, you got kind of

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a youthfulness. Well, yeah. All I'm saying is, well, so

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did you have people constantly guessing you were substantially older

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than you really were when you were young?

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No.

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Then I don't want to hear your whining. Okay, fine.

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I mean, I couldn't, I couldn't get into like, well,

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I mean, I could with, with ID, but I was

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getting into like R rated movies when I was like

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25 or 26.

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So I believe that. Well, and that's, and some of

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that also comes down to facial hair. I mean, no,

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I mean, that a lot of men, sorry, enough facial.

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I'm sorry, but I have some. I know. I know

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there's some Armenian happening in there. No, I was just

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like a lot of men. We stopped getting ID'd the

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moment we start rocking a real, like a beard or

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a mustache or whatever. I mean, we might still get

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ID'd for like alcohol, but you're not going to get

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ID'd for like 18 and up movies. Once you have

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a beard, they're just going to be like, Oh, come

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on in, sir. But, uh, but like, from the time

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I was like 22, people thought I was like pushing 40. Wow.

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I was told that consistently. I remember one time asking

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a girl out and she literally said like, you seem

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really nice, but I'm not into older men. She was

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three years older than me.

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Wow.

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So I've been kind of, I was like, well, I

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guess I'll just lean into the whole, that whole, um, Oh,

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what's his name? That, uh, artist that wasn't actually good,

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but he was cool. Andy Warhol. Oh, um, But I'll

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lean into that because he would dress like he was

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older so that no one... His thing was, I'll dress

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like you're older so no one will notice when you age.

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So he'd wear like suits and stuff. So I'm like, okay, cool.

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Eventually I'll catch up with how old everybody thinks I am.

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Yeah, there you go.

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So hooray, hooray, hooray. But I'm excited about it. And

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if anybody listening to this feels really generous, I'll put

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my Amazon wish list in the show notes tonight. But,

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you know... I also would like just well wishes sent

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to weekly spooky at gmail.com. I mean, a little kindness

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goes a very long way. So, you know, that would

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be cool with me. Just one person being nice to

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me since Michelle never will.

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That would be cool. So, but, oh, we have a

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pretty epic show. I'm not going to lie. We have

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some really good news stories that I was very excited

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to dig deeper into and our topic. this month is

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about the great moon hoax of 1835. Oh no, there.

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There was a moon and then something happened. I don't

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know what that could mean.

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I'll give you one hint. Okay.

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It involves beavers and bat people.

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I still, What?

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Yeah, it made it worse, didn't it? Yeah. Yeah, I

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didn't make that up either. That's legitimately.

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But why not bats and bad people or beavers and

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beaver people?

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I don't know. We're going to learn together because we

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all learn better when we learn together.

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Beavers can't be on the moon. There's no water on

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the moon.

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I like how that's the thing. That's the thing. That's

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the problem.

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They would hate it there.

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You don't know that.

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I do.

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What if they brought water from home?

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They won't bring enough. It has to be running water

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so they can make little dams and things.

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Well, now you're just really assuming what they want out

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of life based on a lot of societal expectation.

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Exactly. You're right. Fine. Just let them go to the moon.

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I don't even care anymore. Wow.

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Chell is in a, man, this is going to be

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a fun one.

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I don't even care.

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Whoa. For all I care. yeah that is one of

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my favorite things just add for all i care after

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any kind of fun fact you know like did you

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know that you uh that that you can buy a

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car made of cheese for all i care uh well

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we're gonna take a quick break and when we get

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back we're gonna dive into that news right after this

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All right, Chell. Are you ready?

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For what?

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For the spooky news. The spooky news. Aw, yeah. We're

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heading to people.com.

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Oh.

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Yeah. As opposed to person.com or. org. Oh, jeez. Or. edu.

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This is from people.com. This I thought you would appreciate, Chelle,

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especially because of what we were talking about off the air. Oh, really? Yeah.

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Anna Camp to host spine-tingling renovation series set in one

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of America's most haunted houses.

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Whoa.

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You haven't heard about this?

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I kind of think I might have, actually.

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I feel like everybody's talking about this. Like, I even

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debated not covering it because I felt like it was

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so common. They're talking about a very haunted renovation.

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I don't know. I don't know if I have, actually.

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Cause this is totally your jam and it has a

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connection because it's in Ohio.

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Oh, where though?

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Uh, Fremont, Ohio, which I don't know where that is. Um,

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HGTV is newest renovation series is bringing one of America's

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most haunted houses. That's in quotes back from the dead

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hosted by Anna camp, a very haunted renovation premiering Tuesday,

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September 15th. Oh, coming right up. Yeah.

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Sorry.

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Oh, and you looked at your watch like it would

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have a calendar on it. Sees the Scream 7 star

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head to Fremont, Ohio to welcome six brave designers into the, quote,

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eerie and historic Beale Manor. People got an exclusive first

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look at the six-episode season during which the group is

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not only tasked with restoring the Victorian mansion to save

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it from being torn down, but they also have to eat, sleep,

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and live there for 31 days.

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Sounds like a nice vacation.

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Is that what you feel like? Yeah. I mean, you

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don't feel like that'd be scary at all?

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No. I don't think. I don't think. I don't even.

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I feel like I know I've heard of this Beale

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Mansion before, but I bet it's not haunted. I bet

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it's just you have to. Actually, this sounds terrible because

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you have to be there with other people for 30

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days and you work and then you can't leave.

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This is what I was getting at.

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Oh, my God. I hate this.

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Oh, it's out by like Sandusky. So toward the middle

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of the north middle of the state, kind of close

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to Toledo. Okay.

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So at least you can go to Toledo.

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I mean, it's two and a half hours away. I'm

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going to have to drive further than that to pick

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up my car. Yay. Whenever that happens. Yeah. I didn't

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look because I was like, it's fine. However, I have

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to drive is fine. And it was like, oh, cool.

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It's almost three hours away. That's fine. That means I

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really get to get to get to know the car. Yeah.

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And say goodbye to the old car.

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in my car when it was born. I mean.

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When you adopted it?

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When I adopted it.

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What was it?

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I listened to the latest At The Drive-In album.

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That sounds all right.

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It's okay.

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Well, at least you have the memory with the car

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of it.

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People, oh, I already read that part. Ghosts roam three

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floors of eerie spaces, tormenting all those who enter, camp

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teases in the above clip. Unaccompanied, falling apart, and on

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the verge of demolition, no one is brave enough to

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set foot inside. Until now.

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I'm sure there was lots of squatters in there.

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Well, Fremont might be too small an area, like their

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homeless population would just be like really low, you know,

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small town. Sorry, you're sad about that, you're like, damn.

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I am going to do, because I'd never heard of

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Beale Manor ever. So I am going to do a

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deep dive on Beale Manor for an episode of Thursday Thrills.

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Okay.

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Probably the week before. Actually, it'll air on my birthday

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because it'll be before the show airs. On the 10th

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of September. Along the way, local townspeople share their terrifying stories,

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including ghostly encounters that they've personally experienced with the property. Quote,

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I would see a man standing upstairs, just standing there,

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looking out the window. I found out there was nobody there.

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The house was empty, a former neighbor recalls. Squatters. What'd

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you say?

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I said squatters.

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Squatter, you wish. Little. I know. Meanwhile, homeowners Carlo and

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Heather have had their own fair share of spooky experiences

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in the abode. Quote, Nobody told me this when I

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bought it, says Carlo of the property's haunted history. Heather

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adds of one chilling memory, quote, I went down to

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the basement. I felt this cold finger go all the

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way down from my neck down to my back. That

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wouldn't bother you?

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No, it would. I just it's just only from her

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neck to her back. It's not that's not that far.

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Oh, I see what you're, yeah, that's what you're getting at.

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That's the hill you're going to, you're going to die on. Yeah.

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Yeah. If she said like all the way from like

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her head all the way down to her feet, I

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would be like, Oh, that's no.

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If it was a person doing it, they'd have to

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be so committed. They'd like get down on the ground.

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Yeah. And it just feels not good. But yeah, if

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it's just like that, I don't know. I mean, that

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could be anything. It could be a spider web.

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Okay. Okay. That's a fair point. I see what you're saying.

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At first, I was just weirded out by the lack

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of desire for a personal bubble you apparently had. But,

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all right, fair enough. Carlo notes that while he hopes

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to save this house, its reputation has made it hard

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to get contractors to work on it. Really?

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I'd work on it?

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Jeez. You're not a contractor. There you have it.

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I know, but, yeah, you're right.

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It makes it hard to get contractors to work on it.

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I'd work on it. You're not a contractor. That's the problem.

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Oh.

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We have nothing but non-contractors showing up saying, I'll do it.

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It's like, but you can't. It's almost a weird curse

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in and of itself. Yeah. It forces non-contractors to try

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to work on it, which is why it's falling apart.

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Nobody knows what they're doing, but they keep fixing it.

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The house is just forcing it, demanding coats of paint. Quote,

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everybody knows that it's definitely haunted. Local builder Adam chimes in.

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You just always feel like you're not alone. You just

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feel like somebody's watching you. While no one has dared

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to take on the challenge until now, the six designers, S.K. Stokes, Kennedy,

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Patrick Peel, John Ryan, Bershon Shaw, Logan Wright, and Diana Vogel,

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are ready to immerse themselves in the, quote, tormented mansion

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and give its spine-tingling spaces a full transformation per a

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press release. From HGTV. That's not as easy as I

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thought it'd be. Hey, that all rhymed. HGTV, not as

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easy as I thought it'd be. That'd be a great

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motto for them. Yeah. Not as easy as I thought

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it would be.

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Yeah.

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A sack of money just comes in, drops in front

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of me. That's actually a perfect motto for the home

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garden television.

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Actually, it's not anymore.

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Oh.

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It used to be really like DIY and stuff. And

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they'd be like, look, we can show you how to

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do things. And now it's all just like, look, it's

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someone flip a house and it's actually looks easier than

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it is. Okay. So it isn't as easy as you

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thought it would be from.

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Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I loved those memes about like,

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you know, the couple and it'd be like, I, I, I, uh,

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work at a bottling factory and I collect butterflies. Our

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budget is $ 1. 8 million.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I always thought it would be even better. It should

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just be things that aren't even potentially a career. It's

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just like, you know, just like I have no legs

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and I'm, and I'm Italian. We, our budget is $ 1. 4 million.

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Like you're like, what?

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Yeah.

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Their design skills and fearlessness will be tested as they

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compete to be crowned winners of the competition and receive

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a $ 50, 000 cash prize. In addition to being met with

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elimination challenges each episode, they'll also receive guidance from design

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expert and mentor Michelle Smith-Boyd. Spooky icons will serve as

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guest judges throughout the season, including actors Billy Porter, Lulu Wilson,

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and Elvira star Cassandra Peterson. I like how she refuses

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to dress as Elvira anymore, so they have to say

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Elvira star, but then it's Cassandra Peterson. As well as

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paranormal investigator Jack Osborne, horror film director Eli Roth, and

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production designer Hannah Beachler. I actually think having a horror-known

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production designer is perfect. Because they literally decorate homes and sets.

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So that's kind of perfect. And they design the sets. So,

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I mean, they don't build them by hand, but they

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design them.

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Them yeah and I actually have heard of this now

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I guess I just was like not watching the commercials

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like when it was on I was just kind of

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like hearing in the background you.

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Were just in a fugue state yeah.

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But I remember hearing that the Elvira person was going

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to be in the thing so yeah.

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That's really cool The very first episode of a very

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haunted renovation will see the competitors break into two teams

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as they work to reimagine one of the bedrooms. But

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there's one catch. The space has to draw on the

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spirits of Lizzie and Alvy Beal, who are, quote, rumored

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to haunt the sleeping quarters, according to the release. No, no, no, no, no.

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I'm actually pissed off now. Leave the dead people alone,

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because that's how that's like you're going to piss them off.

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Just renovate the house.

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Well, they're not going to exercise them out. Like, wouldn't

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that be what would make you really mad if it

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was like, and we're going to do an exorcism at

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the end?

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Yeah, that would make me really upset. But it's kind

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of like, hey, let's do our best to make this

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for these people who are dead. I don't know. Just

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do your own thing.

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Well, on that note, we're going to take a quick break.

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And when we get back, things are going to get

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a little extra interesting right after this. Well, Chell, we're back,

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and now we're heading somewhere I actually am surprised we

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haven't ended up before on this show. We're going to coasttocoastam.com.

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Oh.

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Yeah. Where the headline reads, Croc Ness Monster Has Italian

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Town Buzzing.

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Oh.

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Now, sadly, these are not crocs, and I was hoping

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it would be crocs. but this is a literal crocodile.

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Oh, I was hoping it would be a crock pot.

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Oh, that would be good too. That's because you couldn't

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read that it was no K. That's why you didn't know.

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Yeah.

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A photo purportedly showing a crocodile lurking in an Italian

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town's lake has the community buzzing as residents debate the

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veracity of the image and visitors flock to the village

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hoping to spot the creature. curious case reportedly began back

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in May when a maintenance worker snapped the picture seen

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below at a pond in the community of Massiano. The image,

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I got a side note, I've been working on learning

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European Portuguese and it makes reading, things that I used

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to read with total ease every day in Spanish or

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Italian are now so hard that Because I'm trying to

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learn these incredibly different pronunciations.

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Yeah.

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Example, I was working on trying to memorize, to not memorize,

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but like to nail the pronunciation on a term that

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means bad thing, basically. It means like something that's bad luck,

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bad thing. And it's spelled C-O-I-S-A, next word, R-U-I-M.

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Okay.

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Looks like coisa ruim, if you were speaking English. Coisa ruim. Mm-hmm.

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It's Khois Kheem. Khois Kheem. And I'm nailing it right now.

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I'm actually shocked. I worked on it a lot last night.

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Khois Kheem.

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Good for you.

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Khois Kheem. That's the Portuguese pronunciation. Because I'm watching a movie,

444
00:23:28.390 --> 00:23:30.630
or I'm getting ready to watch a movie. It's called

445
00:23:30.650 --> 00:23:34.019
the first Portuguese horror film. And its name is, the

446
00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:35.539
title is Khois Kheem.

447
00:23:36.500 --> 00:23:36.759
Okay.

448
00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:41.039
Khois Kheem. Kheem. I'm getting better at that. Anyway.

449
00:23:41.940 --> 00:23:42.160
Anyway.

450
00:23:42.750 --> 00:23:45.369
Everybody's like, please keep going into the mic. That's all

451
00:23:45.390 --> 00:23:50.890
we want from the show. Anyway, the community of Masiano,

452
00:23:51.390 --> 00:23:54.450
or Masianu, that would be if it was in Portuguese.

453
00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:58.160
The image quickly became the talk of the town, and

454
00:23:58.220 --> 00:24:01.119
authorities launched a search for the creature, but found no

455
00:24:01.259 --> 00:24:04.460
sign of the reptile, which some have taken to calling

456
00:24:04.700 --> 00:24:09.819
the croc-nest monster. It does look like a crocodile to me.

457
00:24:10.619 --> 00:24:13.380
Or an alligator. I'm guessing crocodiles. There aren't any alligators

458
00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:15.099
on that side of the world. I think they're all crocodiles.

459
00:24:15.619 --> 00:24:17.180
I get really confused between the two.

460
00:24:17.660 --> 00:24:23.390
I understand. It's very hateful. But it could very easily

461
00:24:23.490 --> 00:24:27.730
be a toy. I've even seen, although this one doesn't

462
00:24:27.769 --> 00:24:29.710
look like it, a friend of mine had a pond

463
00:24:29.769 --> 00:24:32.690
on her property. And one time I got freaked out

464
00:24:32.710 --> 00:24:34.329
because I was near it at night and I thought

465
00:24:34.369 --> 00:24:38.049
I saw a little alligator. Which would be very unusual

466
00:24:38.089 --> 00:24:40.380
in Ohio. but it scared the heck out of me.

467
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:43.200
And it was, um, it was like a little floaty

468
00:24:43.299 --> 00:24:47.640
thing that that's meant to like disperse something. I don't

469
00:24:47.660 --> 00:24:49.859
know if it's like a chemical or like food for

470
00:24:49.940 --> 00:24:53.700
fish or something, but it looks like, but like playfully,

471
00:24:53.740 --> 00:24:55.160
it just kind of looks like a little alligator, but

472
00:24:55.180 --> 00:24:56.690
it's got like, when you really look at it, you

473
00:24:56.710 --> 00:24:58.190
can see like the joints are all weird. Cause it's

474
00:24:58.210 --> 00:25:01.529
meant to float and stuff. Although I guess alligators are

475
00:25:01.549 --> 00:25:05.029
meant to float too. Anyway. Well, occasionally they also sink.

476
00:25:06.269 --> 00:25:06.509
Yeah.

477
00:25:07.450 --> 00:25:10.789
Okay. As long as we all agree. While whether or

478
00:25:10.829 --> 00:25:13.509
not the picture is genuine remains up for debate, there

479
00:25:13.589 --> 00:25:17.130
is no argument that the mystery has captivated Masiano and

480
00:25:17.170 --> 00:25:20.529
the surrounding region. To the delight of many business owners,

481
00:25:20.589 --> 00:25:23.369
the small community has become something of an unlikely tourist

482
00:25:23.410 --> 00:25:27.529
destination this summer as word of the crock-nest monster has

483
00:25:27.589 --> 00:25:30.609
spread throughout the area. Among those getting in on the

484
00:25:30.730 --> 00:25:34.289
action are a restaurant which created a special Masiano crocodile

485
00:25:34.369 --> 00:25:37.710
cocktail and a local football team which has also adopted

486
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.099
the reptilian moniker. I never thought it'd be, the news

487
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.680
would be, uh, uh, Italian town figures out how to

488
00:25:43.740 --> 00:25:47.480
sell more alcohol, but not trying to be mean, but

489
00:25:47.500 --> 00:25:50.160
the people that they like to drink. And I don't just,

490
00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:52.519
I don't mean like Italians. I mean like people in Italy,

491
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:54.359
it's a very big part of the culture. They like

492
00:25:54.380 --> 00:25:54.720
to drink.

493
00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:56.240
Yeah, I guess.

494
00:25:56.900 --> 00:25:58.750
No, I mean wine and stuff. I'm not saying that

495
00:25:58.769 --> 00:26:00.710
they're just like, I mean, they're not like those, you know,

496
00:26:00.829 --> 00:26:03.329
the Irish and the Scots. Let's, let's talk about those

497
00:26:03.430 --> 00:26:06.670
people first. No, but no, I mean, they like to

498
00:26:06.710 --> 00:26:09.269
drink wine. It's like a culture thing. Mm-hmm. like when

499
00:26:09.289 --> 00:26:14.390
I was looking into, um, eventually going to Portugal, uh,

500
00:26:15.029 --> 00:26:17.390
everything I read was like, you need to either learn

501
00:26:17.430 --> 00:26:19.730
how to drink wine or learn how to drink espresso

502
00:26:19.849 --> 00:26:23.230
because that is all people drink there. Wow. And I

503
00:26:23.250 --> 00:26:25.049
was like, Oh boy, I guess I'll learn how to

504
00:26:25.089 --> 00:26:32.150
drink espresso. Yeah. So, but, but yeah, so they're also

505
00:26:32.259 --> 00:26:34.650
big wine drinkers. They just like to drink wine a lot.

506
00:26:36.380 --> 00:26:39.099
So not trying to pick on them, but, uh, That

507
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:41.839
is the whole article coast to coast AM straight into

508
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:42.299
the point.

509
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:43.539
Yeah. Yeah.

510
00:26:43.940 --> 00:26:47.009
It is weird to me. Like croc nest monster. You're

511
00:26:47.049 --> 00:26:49.750
in Italy. Like, I feel like there's gotta be a

512
00:26:49.789 --> 00:26:52.470
better pun than croc nest monster for Italy.

513
00:26:53.029 --> 00:26:54.670
You'd think so, but maybe not.

514
00:26:55.269 --> 00:26:57.190
Oh, dang. Maybe you're right.

515
00:26:57.569 --> 00:26:57.910
Yeah.

516
00:27:00.230 --> 00:27:07.829
The linguine lizard. The risotto reptile.

517
00:27:08.299 --> 00:27:11.059
Why does it have to be like a pasta.

518
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.500
Or a food? Ask Italy why it has to be

519
00:27:12.539 --> 00:27:14.779
a pasta. That's not my fault that that's all I know.

520
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.210
The Mussolini monster?

521
00:27:18.230 --> 00:27:22.289
I mean, sure.

522
00:27:23.130 --> 00:27:25.710
Why are you crapping on all my awesome takes?

523
00:27:26.009 --> 00:27:29.950
I just don't know. I think probably the crock nest

524
00:27:30.009 --> 00:27:31.910
monster is the best we're going to do.

525
00:27:32.130 --> 00:27:36.730
But the lock nest monster is in Scotland. It has

526
00:27:36.789 --> 00:27:38.509
nothing to do with Italy.

527
00:27:38.789 --> 00:27:42.069
Well, then you have to find an Italian cryptid and

528
00:27:42.089 --> 00:27:43.950
then name it something like that.

529
00:27:45.069 --> 00:27:46.920
I already did. The Mussolini monster.

530
00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:47.559
Okay, fine.

531
00:27:47.579 --> 00:27:51.259
If Mussolini isn't an Italian cryptid, then I don't believe

532
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:53.759
anything I read in history books ever again.

533
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.059
Okay, fine. Fine.

534
00:27:57.299 --> 00:28:00.690
I mean, could anything other than a cryptid make trains

535
00:28:00.730 --> 00:28:01.329
run on time?

536
00:28:04.349 --> 00:28:08.369
I don't know. Do you know other cryptids that deal

537
00:28:08.380 --> 00:28:09.200
with trains?

538
00:28:10.349 --> 00:28:12.369
Yeah. Oh. Mothman.

539
00:28:13.329 --> 00:28:14.170
Oh. Okay.

540
00:28:14.569 --> 00:28:18.190
Not that Mothman works on a train or anything, but

541
00:28:18.210 --> 00:28:20.849
I've heard there are rumors that Mothman is autistic and

542
00:28:20.890 --> 00:28:24.049
autistic people love trains. And I appreciate that.

543
00:28:24.990 --> 00:28:25.609
Yeah.

544
00:28:26.150 --> 00:28:30.529
Okay. It's orderly. It's nice. You know, it has a horn.

545
00:28:30.890 --> 00:28:31.450
I like horns.

546
00:28:32.789 --> 00:28:33.170
I don't.

547
00:28:34.009 --> 00:28:34.279
Really?

548
00:28:34.299 --> 00:28:38.990
They're okay. I like horns like the instrument, but when

549
00:28:39.019 --> 00:28:42.039
they're just like in a car, not so much. They're okay.

550
00:28:42.380 --> 00:28:44.740
What if you went to see a ska band? They

551
00:28:44.779 --> 00:28:47.160
just had four cars on the stage.

552
00:28:48.980 --> 00:28:50.380
Okay, that would be really cool.

553
00:28:50.539 --> 00:28:52.440
Yeah, you would love that, wouldn't you?

554
00:28:52.500 --> 00:28:53.660
It would be awesome. Yeah.

555
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:55.900
If it was whole cars, it would be cool. Would

556
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:57.900
it be cool if it was just like the obscenely

557
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:01.019
big mechanism from a car? Sure.

558
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:02.240
The whole cars would be cooler.

559
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:07.789
Way cooler. Oh, yeah. Way cooler. Yeah. Yeah. The only

560
00:29:07.829 --> 00:29:09.970
sad thing is that the band name The Cars is

561
00:29:10.029 --> 00:29:15.140
already taken. So what would be a good name for

562
00:29:15.180 --> 00:29:20.000
a ska band where the horns are cars? Come on.

563
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:22.380
You got to have one. I don't know.

564
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:24.640
I don't know. I don't know.

565
00:29:27.809 --> 00:29:29.029
Park it up. Park it up. Up.

566
00:29:29.309 --> 00:29:29.410
Up.

567
00:29:29.609 --> 00:29:32.589
Nah, it's not that good. I'm trying here, okay? It's

568
00:29:32.609 --> 00:29:36.069
a Monday. Okay.

569
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:38.529
I don't know. I can't come up with anything.

570
00:29:41.140 --> 00:29:43.740
Well, I guess this is as good a time as

571
00:29:43.819 --> 00:29:46.940
any to take a quick break. And when we get back,

572
00:29:47.019 --> 00:29:50.539
we're going to talk about some more spooky news right

573
00:29:50.579 --> 00:30:04.309
after this. Okay, we're back. And Chell, we're heading to Europe.

574
00:30:05.450 --> 00:30:05.569
Oh.

575
00:30:06.049 --> 00:30:10.670
For the euronews.com, where they have a headline reading exclusive,

576
00:30:11.150 --> 00:30:15.069
Brussels keen to monitor UFOs under the radar.

577
00:30:16.349 --> 00:30:17.150
Hmm.

578
00:30:17.190 --> 00:30:19.730
See how they used UFOs and not UAPs in the

579
00:30:19.769 --> 00:30:25.859
headline because of SEO? Oh. UAPs, man. Stop trying to

580
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:29.910
make UAP happen. It's not happening. It's not going to happen.

581
00:30:30.410 --> 00:30:32.450
Okay, fine. Jeez.

582
00:30:33.069 --> 00:30:39.589
Just trying to help you understand. No. Brussels has signaled

583
00:30:39.650 --> 00:30:43.839
it is monitoring unidentified anomalous phenomena, UAP. See, it's not

584
00:30:43.859 --> 00:30:47.440
in the headline. And has hinted at improving capabilities according

585
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:51.980
to documents seen by Euronews. The European Commission seems to

586
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.349
have been monitoring unidentified anomalous phenomena under the radar since

587
00:30:55.380 --> 00:30:58.109
at least 2023 and according to a document from the

588
00:30:58.130 --> 00:31:02.099
Commission's Defense Department seen by Euronews, which pertains to sky

589
00:31:02.220 --> 00:31:08.339
and space observations in Malaysia, which is not Europe. No.

590
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:13.640
I just want to make that clear. Malaysia is not Europe.

591
00:31:14.819 --> 00:31:15.140
No.

592
00:31:16.299 --> 00:31:17.980
So I'm already confused.

593
00:31:18.730 --> 00:31:19.269
Me too.

594
00:31:19.970 --> 00:31:22.210
Quote, we are getting better at seeing it and better

595
00:31:22.269 --> 00:31:27.009
at identifying it as our technological capacities improve. But we

596
00:31:27.049 --> 00:31:30.569
need to get even better, the letter read, signaling the

597
00:31:30.670 --> 00:31:35.109
EU executive is actively monitoring the phenomenon more than officially

598
00:31:35.190 --> 00:31:39.210
stated and seems keen to investigate it. Formerly known as

599
00:31:39.309 --> 00:31:43.349
unidentified flying objects, is it? Because you used that first.

600
00:31:43.430 --> 00:31:46.529
I feel like that doesn't mean it's formerly UFOs. It's

601
00:31:46.650 --> 00:31:50.049
currently UFOs, since you said it in the headlines.

602
00:31:54.930 --> 00:31:55.430
Yeah.

603
00:31:55.650 --> 00:31:58.730
UAPs ain't happening. I'm sorry. They're just not happening. Fine. Fine.

604
00:31:59.170 --> 00:32:03.470
I refuse. This is where I draw the line. Right here.

605
00:32:03.509 --> 00:32:10.529
No further. It's a little bit of Captain Picard. The

606
00:32:10.569 --> 00:32:13.619
term UAP was introduced by the United States Defense Department,

607
00:32:13.630 --> 00:32:17.220
the Pentagon, in August of 2020 when Washington established the

608
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.579
UAP Task Force to investigate inexplicable occurrences in restricted airspace.

609
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:23.359
Hmm.

610
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:28.240
Hmm. The topic took on a more serious tone after

611
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.940
a New York Times report revealed in 2017 that the U.S.

612
00:32:31.980 --> 00:32:37.279
Defense Department files contained UAP footage from military flights that

613
00:32:37.299 --> 00:32:41.549
the Navy had just released. Euronews also identified a Malaysian

614
00:32:41.609 --> 00:32:45.630
father and son, amateur astronomers internationally recognized by space agencies

615
00:32:45.910 --> 00:32:48.470
for the discoveries of the surface and activities on the

616
00:32:48.509 --> 00:32:52.250
moon in 2020, who reached out to the commission with

617
00:32:52.289 --> 00:32:56.220
a letter titled, quote, UAP captures in the airspace and

618
00:32:56.279 --> 00:33:00.640
deep space using our UV infrared telescope in October of 2022.

619
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:06.630
The family duo sent 37 sky and space footage images

620
00:33:06.690 --> 00:33:10.930
to the commission, including alleged UAPs, and asked President Ursula

621
00:33:10.950 --> 00:33:14.710
von der Leyen about their origins. They noted that all

622
00:33:14.789 --> 00:33:18.230
governments simply have no opinions of these UAPs when confronted

623
00:33:18.269 --> 00:33:20.920
about them, and said they appear to be flying, quote,

624
00:33:21.420 --> 00:33:25.660
very near to aircraft, and important targets such as military

625
00:33:25.740 --> 00:33:26.839
and nuclear facilities.

626
00:33:27.740 --> 00:33:27.920
Hmm.

627
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:33.240
I will say that that suggests intelligence gathering.

628
00:33:34.500 --> 00:33:35.839
Yeah, it does. Yeah.

629
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.930
I mean, now, of course, see, this is where UFOs,

630
00:33:40.430 --> 00:33:45.049
I don't know. What's your stance on aliens, UFOs stuff, Chell?

631
00:33:46.470 --> 00:33:47.410
You know, I really don't know.

632
00:33:47.430 --> 00:33:49.329
You don't know what your stance is?

633
00:33:49.750 --> 00:33:55.630
Yeah, actually. Um, Like maybe there's things, but maybe there's

634
00:33:55.730 --> 00:33:59.069
not things and it's all other governments things. Or maybe

635
00:33:59.130 --> 00:34:01.430
most of the time people are just confused about what

636
00:34:01.470 --> 00:34:04.509
things are. And it's really just SpaceX launches.

637
00:34:05.730 --> 00:34:07.500
They do launch a lot.

638
00:34:07.819 --> 00:34:10.460
And it looks weird. And I know because I look

639
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:12.139
on Reddit and people are like, what is this? And

640
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.300
they're like, it's a SpaceX launch. I'm not an alien.

641
00:34:15.340 --> 00:34:16.039
I promise.

642
00:34:18.579 --> 00:34:19.929
Sounds like stuff aliens would say.

643
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.440
Yeah. So I don't really know where I stand about,

644
00:34:23.460 --> 00:34:25.719
if I think. I mean, I think there's probably life

645
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:28.440
in the universe, but I don't know where I stand

646
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:29.340
about it being here.

647
00:34:29.699 --> 00:34:31.840
You're just not convinced we're alive?

648
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:34.099
Yeah, exactly.

649
00:34:34.530 --> 00:34:37.090
I might think there's life in the universe? Maybe.

650
00:34:37.110 --> 00:34:39.869
I mean, I'm not convinced we're not already dead and

651
00:34:39.909 --> 00:34:42.869
this is like a ghost planet or something.

652
00:34:42.889 --> 00:34:47.849
Ooh, ghost planet, like Echoes. Yeah. Okay. Well, for me...

653
00:34:48.780 --> 00:34:51.239
I was always really into UFOs when I was a kid.

654
00:34:51.940 --> 00:34:53.920
I'm like very, very into it. And I don't just

655
00:34:53.940 --> 00:34:56.239
mean like I, you know, watch the X-Files. I like

656
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:59.309
would check out books from the library about UFOs and

657
00:34:59.710 --> 00:35:03.590
read them cover to cover. And I've always thought it

658
00:35:03.610 --> 00:35:06.170
was interesting. The idea that, you know, there's aliens visiting.

659
00:35:06.590 --> 00:35:12.090
I don't think it's very likely. Yeah. Only because, well, okay,

660
00:35:12.110 --> 00:35:14.570
I'll put it a better way. I think it is

661
00:35:14.670 --> 00:35:19.719
more likely that aliens are visiting the, and we don't know,

662
00:35:20.869 --> 00:35:23.329
then I would put it that aliens are visiting and

663
00:35:23.369 --> 00:35:26.190
the government knows and is accomplishing the greatest coverup in

664
00:35:26.210 --> 00:35:30.269
the history of all humankind. That's kind of where I stand.

665
00:35:30.710 --> 00:35:32.389
Cause like this whole idea, like the government knows and

666
00:35:32.409 --> 00:35:33.989
they're just keeping a secret. I'm like, they are so

667
00:35:34.030 --> 00:35:38.190
good at keeping secrets. Just tell Chelsea Manning and Edward

668
00:35:38.269 --> 00:35:41.199
Snowden how good they are at keeping secrets.

669
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:41.840
Yeah.

670
00:35:42.300 --> 00:35:45.400
Edward Snowden even said when he was working for the

671
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.960
intelligence agencies in the NSA that that he looked for

672
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:52.989
UFO stuff because he was curious and he didn't find anything. Okay.

673
00:35:53.030 --> 00:36:01.750
So yeah. What if the aliens have brainwashing technology? So

674
00:36:02.050 --> 00:36:05.849
every time somebody finds out who would spill this, they

675
00:36:05.869 --> 00:36:08.130
just zap it out of their heads.

676
00:36:09.090 --> 00:36:14.730
And it sounds like men in black with one extra step. Yeah. No,

677
00:36:14.789 --> 00:36:18.150
I mean, you know, uh, that's kind of, that's kind

678
00:36:18.190 --> 00:36:20.260
of my problem with the discourse on this topic in

679
00:36:20.300 --> 00:36:24.460
general is that, I mean, you were, you know, being

680
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:27.840
somewhat silly, maybe, or maybe you really desperately believe this,

681
00:36:28.420 --> 00:36:31.809
but a lot of times the counterpoints will be like,

682
00:36:31.909 --> 00:36:34.849
but what if another thing that you have to decide

683
00:36:34.889 --> 00:36:37.869
if you believe is real is real and that's why

684
00:36:37.909 --> 00:36:41.750
it works. And I'm always like, that's not, So if I,

685
00:36:41.989 --> 00:36:43.889
you know, if I say like, it looks like they're

686
00:36:43.929 --> 00:36:46.320
gathering intelligence and then somebody's like, oh, so aliens are

687
00:36:46.340 --> 00:36:48.480
gathering intelligence on us. I'm like, well, that, see, that's

688
00:36:48.539 --> 00:36:52.139
the part that's the problem. Intelligence gathering makes sense and

689
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.619
we're aware of it. Like of the concept that you

690
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:56.840
need to be close to something to gather intelligence on it.

691
00:36:57.570 --> 00:37:01.989
But then if you want to go to its aliens,

692
00:37:02.050 --> 00:37:05.409
that's a whole way bigger leap than it being like

693
00:37:05.869 --> 00:37:09.929
spy craft or something. And that's, that's kind of where

694
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:13.980
especially in the modern era when people are saying like,

695
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.340
but there's so many unidentified things and dah, dah, dah, dah.

696
00:37:16.699 --> 00:37:20.440
I'm like, yeah. I mean, we're in an unbelievably advanced

697
00:37:20.460 --> 00:37:26.320
technological time period. Like why wouldn't foreign governments be able

698
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:30.090
to build something that might surprise you? Also, if it

699
00:37:30.250 --> 00:37:33.969
is like, if the, like, you know, supposed like black

700
00:37:34.110 --> 00:37:36.630
pyramid ships and stuff, If they are real, I wouldn't

701
00:37:36.670 --> 00:37:38.829
be surprised if they were the U S government testing

702
00:37:38.869 --> 00:37:41.809
them from such a secret layer that like the air

703
00:37:41.849 --> 00:37:44.590
force and the Navy don't know about them. And that's

704
00:37:44.630 --> 00:37:47.269
why the reports don't get taken seriously because once it

705
00:37:47.289 --> 00:37:49.659
goes up the chain enough, somebody goes, Oh, I know

706
00:37:49.699 --> 00:37:53.260
what they are, but I can't ever say that. So

707
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:54.099
I say nothing.

708
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:57.820
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's possible. I mean, the

709
00:37:57.860 --> 00:38:01.219
other thing that bothers me is I think that, I mean, I,

710
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:03.000
I like, I think a lot of things are just

711
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:07.389
totally misidentified as normal, like normal things. I see a

712
00:38:07.449 --> 00:38:09.989
lot like in those kind of clip shows and stuff

713
00:38:10.010 --> 00:38:12.250
where someone will be like, I saw the thing, but

714
00:38:12.289 --> 00:38:14.840
it didn't make any noise when it was in the sky.

715
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.360
And it's like, if it's up high enough, like, and

716
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:19.559
it's like a drone, you're just not going to hear it.

717
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:24.110
They're not that loud. Sorry, guys. No, and that's kind

718
00:38:24.150 --> 00:38:28.889
of the thing. I appreciate the enthusiasm and excitement about

719
00:38:28.929 --> 00:38:31.960
the idea of aliens visiting. But the other problem is

720
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.280
you get into a slippery slope once you start saying,

721
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:38.460
and they're being perfectly hidden by the government. Because Snowden

722
00:38:38.500 --> 00:38:42.260
said that when he looked to see what was in there,

723
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:47.250
he said that either there's no alien secrets or it's

724
00:38:47.590 --> 00:38:50.510
an incredibly secret cover-up that there's not even a morsel

725
00:38:50.570 --> 00:38:55.570
of it. in the full NSA and CIA database. So

726
00:38:56.570 --> 00:38:59.570
my point is like, they could like, you end up

727
00:38:59.590 --> 00:39:02.590
going down a very scary rabbit hole very quickly because

728
00:39:02.610 --> 00:39:05.239
you say like, well, what about all these other leaks? Oh,

729
00:39:05.340 --> 00:39:08.980
they were all false flags. Those were all fake or

730
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:12.500
done on purpose to make us believe the government has

731
00:39:12.539 --> 00:39:17.739
a fallibility to When in reality, they're perfect at doing everything. Like,

732
00:39:18.179 --> 00:39:21.300
they don't have leaks. They don't have problems with competence,

733
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:25.869
which governments have massive competency problems. No, they don't have

734
00:39:25.929 --> 00:39:28.750
any of those. It's all a psyop. Well, then it becomes, oh, well,

735
00:39:28.809 --> 00:39:30.559
if they're that good, why don't they just actually do

736
00:39:30.579 --> 00:39:33.599
a good job at everything they're.

737
00:39:32.619 --> 00:39:35.809
Too busy they're too busy doing all these psyops i

738
00:39:35.829 --> 00:39:38.610
don't understand there's no time to save the.

739
00:39:38.550 --> 00:39:40.849
World oh i don't even save the world how about

740
00:39:40.889 --> 00:39:43.570
just like uh you know issue a passport in three

741
00:39:43.590 --> 00:39:46.050
days no it Too busy.

742
00:39:46.309 --> 00:39:48.909
We have to look, we have to look in confident

743
00:39:48.949 --> 00:39:51.349
by being confident, but not confident enough.

744
00:39:52.989 --> 00:39:56.670
See, that's, and that's, that's really my point. But then

745
00:39:56.730 --> 00:39:59.070
the slippery slope gets way worse because then when you

746
00:39:59.110 --> 00:40:01.139
say like, well, why don't they like make our lives better?

747
00:40:01.179 --> 00:40:04.800
Then usually you land on because they don't want our

748
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:05.719
lives to be better.

749
00:40:06.179 --> 00:40:06.599
Yeah.

750
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.360
And then, and I'm just going to say it. I

751
00:40:09.380 --> 00:40:14.400
don't care anymore. Um, because I really don't like, uh,

752
00:40:15.570 --> 00:40:18.449
the era of conspiracy theorists that like were big when

753
00:40:18.489 --> 00:40:22.250
you and I were kids always led to the Illuminati.

754
00:40:22.349 --> 00:40:25.090
Almost always there are conspiracy theories now that are a

755
00:40:25.110 --> 00:40:29.349
little bit less tied strictly to Illuminati. Like, you know,

756
00:40:29.389 --> 00:40:31.630
there'll be conspiracies about like fluoride or food in the

757
00:40:31.670 --> 00:40:34.750
water or food, things in food, food in the water,

758
00:40:35.349 --> 00:40:38.340
things that don't necessarily have to go all the way

759
00:40:38.429 --> 00:40:42.760
up that chain. But in general, with these kinds of claims, uh,

760
00:40:43.940 --> 00:40:46.920
the slippery slope is that if you take it far enough, you'll,

761
00:40:47.059 --> 00:40:48.920
you'll realize that the people who've thought about it enough

762
00:40:49.179 --> 00:40:51.159
have already landed on that. It's Jews, that it's a

763
00:40:51.219 --> 00:40:54.050
Jewish cabal controlling the planet because whenever you get to

764
00:40:54.090 --> 00:40:57.429
Illuminati and lizard people, it's always, it's, it's always like,

765
00:40:57.530 --> 00:41:00.710
then it's the Rothschilds and the frigging international banking system.

766
00:41:01.269 --> 00:41:06.090
And that's why I think it's really important to just go. That's,

767
00:41:06.230 --> 00:41:10.280
it's not reasonable to, to argue these points. It's like,

768
00:41:10.460 --> 00:41:13.480
I used to say like, uh, you know, all we're

769
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:16.900
doing is arguing the color of unicorns or all we're

770
00:41:16.940 --> 00:41:20.099
doing is saying, did you know that the new evidence

771
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:22.900
that Bigfoot exists is it shares 20% of its DNA

772
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:27.440
with the Loch Ness monster. You're like that. I'm sorry.

773
00:41:27.460 --> 00:41:30.519
That doesn't count as information for me personally. Like it

774
00:41:30.539 --> 00:41:32.619
just doesn't work if I don't believe in that thing.

775
00:41:33.110 --> 00:41:33.360
Yeah.

776
00:41:33.449 --> 00:41:36.550
So that's where it gets, it gets tricky too, is like,

777
00:41:36.610 --> 00:41:39.269
if this coverup is so massive and so perfect that,

778
00:41:40.469 --> 00:41:43.219
then you end up asking so many questions that a

779
00:41:43.260 --> 00:41:44.719
lot of times the only way to have answers that

780
00:41:44.780 --> 00:41:47.639
keep it in the affirmative of these are aliens is

781
00:41:47.659 --> 00:41:50.300
to end up in a worldview that is really not

782
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:55.219
okay to me, I think. Of course, then some people

783
00:41:55.260 --> 00:41:57.659
might say, that's just because you're afraid to know the truth. Maybe,

784
00:41:58.019 --> 00:42:02.739
or maybe you're just a really long-winded anti-Semite. I don't know.

785
00:42:07.010 --> 00:42:09.690
On that note, we're... I mean, I could just be

786
00:42:09.730 --> 00:42:10.230
an alien.

787
00:42:11.329 --> 00:42:12.889
That would be so cool. But you would have told

788
00:42:12.929 --> 00:42:13.449
me by now.

789
00:42:13.469 --> 00:42:15.449
You don't know that.

790
00:42:15.469 --> 00:42:18.960
I do. Oh. Because I would have come to you

791
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.219
and been like really depressed about it and be like, hey, hey,

792
00:42:21.260 --> 00:42:23.559
it's okay. Look, check this out. And you just like

793
00:42:23.579 --> 00:42:25.300
take your human head off and be like, look, I'm

794
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:29.179
an alien. Just to cheer me up. That's the person

795
00:42:29.219 --> 00:42:29.539
you are.

796
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:31.400
Oh, that's nice of me.

797
00:42:31.460 --> 00:42:34.599
Not true. Well, we're going to take a quick break.

798
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:36.239
And when we get back, we'll look a little bit

799
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:48.860
more into this Euro news story right after this. All right, Chell,

800
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:52.849
we're back. Finishing up this news story from Euronews.com all

801
00:42:52.909 --> 00:43:02.710
about UFOs, not UAPs. Oh, and then I lose my

802
00:43:03.230 --> 00:43:09.840
spot right after I make my friggin' solid point. Yeah. Oh, man,

803
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:13.360
I really lost it entirely. There it is. They noted that, quote,

804
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.119
this is talking about the duo from Malaysia who have

805
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:21.349
the UV infrared telescopes. The family duo sent 37 sky

806
00:43:22.449 --> 00:43:25.650
and space footage images to the commission, including alleged UAPs,

807
00:43:26.090 --> 00:43:30.360
and asked President Ursula von der Leyen about their origins.

808
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:32.960
They noted that, quote, all governments simply have no opinions.

809
00:43:33.659 --> 00:43:36.760
We have also detected various signals from up above through

810
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:40.980
the local Wi-Fi frequencies, the Malaysian duo wrote. Since these

811
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.489
UAPs were spotted over Malaysia, the commission would have no

812
00:43:43.610 --> 00:43:47.159
authority to investigate the matter, the EU executive responded. That's

813
00:43:47.179 --> 00:43:48.380
what we said at the beginning. We were like, why

814
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:49.280
are we talking about Malaysia?

815
00:43:49.300 --> 00:43:50.800
This article is about.

816
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:54.969
The European Union. However, the commission said it would propose

817
00:43:55.849 --> 00:43:59.659
to its 27 member states to, quote, increase ability to

818
00:43:59.699 --> 00:44:04.650
detect objects in space environments around Earth. This is, quote,

819
00:44:04.690 --> 00:44:07.199
this is partly to help us better identify the UAPs

820
00:44:07.489 --> 00:44:10.000
that you have seen and many pieces of space debris

821
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:14.099
that endanger the many users of space, or uses of space.

822
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:15.980
Oh man, that would have been better.

823
00:44:16.019 --> 00:44:18.079
Sorry, users of space would have been better. We do

824
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:20.019
not claim that in the future this will solve all

825
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.019
cases like those you have reported, but maybe some of them.

826
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:27.079
The Malaysian amateur astronomer also reached out to NASA, the

827
00:44:27.099 --> 00:44:31.199
Director General of the Malaysian Nuclear Agency, Abdul Rahim Haroon,

828
00:44:31.909 --> 00:44:35.230
and Malaysian Ministry of Science, Technology, and Innovation, and the

829
00:44:35.250 --> 00:44:39.539
Canadian Defense Ministry, all entities politely shunned the appeal. I

830
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:42.000
was about to wonder why this Malaysian duo sent one

831
00:44:42.099 --> 00:44:44.460
just to Europe, but now it makes sense. Oh, they

832
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:47.219
didn't send it only to Europe. They just sent it

833
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:52.460
to everybody. Former Canadian military police Larry McGuire, who was

834
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:56.079
also approached in... I don't think it's military police. I

835
00:44:56.099 --> 00:45:00.260
think MP might stand for something else. Whatever, MP. individually

836
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:03.039
by the Malaysians, encouraged the pair. Quote, I suspect that

837
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:05.119
more and more people around the world will be turning

838
00:45:05.139 --> 00:45:07.380
their attention to the skies and will be collecting even

839
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.739
more data and recordings in the coming year, Maguire wrote

840
00:45:10.780 --> 00:45:13.739
in an email in June of 2022. At the end

841
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.550
of the day, the skies aren't classified, and as more

842
00:45:16.590 --> 00:45:19.949
information is collected, it will lead to more public awareness

843
00:45:20.329 --> 00:45:20.869
of the issue.

844
00:45:20.889 --> 00:45:22.989
All right.

845
00:45:23.530 --> 00:45:24.849
So now are you fully convinced?

846
00:45:25.610 --> 00:45:27.550
Yeah, that was all the talk. Yeah.

847
00:45:27.670 --> 00:45:31.789
Man. That was easy.

848
00:45:31.809 --> 00:45:33.170
Yeah.

849
00:45:33.670 --> 00:45:38.349
Too easy. Well, now we're going to head back to

850
00:45:38.389 --> 00:45:42.579
the States and to the delightful state of Connecticut.

851
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:43.559
Wow.

852
00:45:44.099 --> 00:45:45.119
You like Connecticut, right?

853
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:46.519
Yes.

854
00:45:47.219 --> 00:45:48.480
Yeah. Have you ever spent any time there?

855
00:45:48.500 --> 00:45:54.260
Um, uh, not, I mean a little bit. I have

856
00:45:54.300 --> 00:45:56.000
some family that lives there.

857
00:45:56.019 --> 00:45:56.800
Oh really?

858
00:45:56.820 --> 00:45:59.989
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, just in the part of Connecticut

859
00:46:00.010 --> 00:46:01.630
that's right by New York.

860
00:46:02.849 --> 00:46:03.769
Basically all of it.

861
00:46:04.630 --> 00:46:10.789
Yes, I know. But yeah, I mean, yeah, that's all

862
00:46:10.849 --> 00:46:11.219
I have.

863
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:14.480
Well, my grandparents lived there for like 20 years, so

864
00:46:14.500 --> 00:46:17.619
I used to spend time. They lived in Waterbury, Connecticut.

865
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.840
And I used to get dropped off with them and

866
00:46:20.860 --> 00:46:21.960
spend like a few days with them. And then I'd

867
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:23.639
go see my dad because he was in New Hampshire.

868
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:26.329
So it was only a little ways further. But this

869
00:46:26.369 --> 00:46:32.090
is local 12.com reporting Bigfoot spotted in Connecticut. Researchers say

870
00:46:32.469 --> 00:46:37.010
sighting is credible. I say, no, that'd be awesome. And

871
00:46:37.030 --> 00:46:41.739
that's the article. Sorry. We're that efficient.

872
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:42.599
Yeah.

873
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:47.199
A reported Bigfoot sighting in rural Connecticut is generating buzz

874
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:51.639
after a national research organization deemed the eyewitness account credible

875
00:46:51.659 --> 00:46:57.219
and though many local residents remain unconvinced. The Bigfoot Field

876
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:01.659
Research Organization, BFRO, said the sighting occurred during the early

877
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:06.800
morning hours of July 5th near Potchog State Forest, Connecticut's

878
00:47:06.860 --> 00:47:11.429
largest state forest. According to the organization, the witness provided

879
00:47:11.530 --> 00:47:15.369
such a detailed description that investigators gave the report their

880
00:47:15.510 --> 00:47:20.989
highest level of credibility. We gave it four chupacabras out

881
00:47:21.030 --> 00:47:23.400
of six. Our highest rating.

882
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:24.579
Wow.

883
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:26.980
I like that they'd measure it in chupacabras.

884
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:29.039
Me too, I guess.

885
00:47:29.659 --> 00:47:35.360
Despite that assessment, neighbors interviewed by WTIC expressed skepticism. Quote,

886
00:47:35.550 --> 00:47:38.690
anything's possible these days, but, you know, I've never seen

887
00:47:38.730 --> 00:47:42.860
a Bigfoot, resident Peter Gautieri said. I like that he

888
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.599
said anything's possible these days. I know what he means,

889
00:47:45.659 --> 00:47:47.699
but I like to think he means what with gene

890
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.920
splicing technology that you can buy off Amazon, I imagine

891
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:54.699
any person could invent a big foot or big feet. Yeah.

892
00:47:55.619 --> 00:47:57.719
I'd like to imagine that he's just like an incurably

893
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.800
insane crank and not just a regular guy saying anything's

894
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:01.679
possible these days.

895
00:48:02.090 --> 00:48:02.389
Yeah.

896
00:48:02.469 --> 00:48:05.010
He's like, I have a lot of opinions. Why don't

897
00:48:05.050 --> 00:48:06.750
you come and look at this wall I've painted with

898
00:48:06.809 --> 00:48:07.889
all of my facts?

899
00:48:07.909 --> 00:48:08.130
Yeah.

900
00:48:09.530 --> 00:48:16.409
Another nearby resident who asked not to be identified suggested shadows, fatigue,

901
00:48:16.510 --> 00:48:20.710
and darkness can play tricks on people's perception. So the

902
00:48:20.730 --> 00:48:24.010
person with the most reasonable comment is the one who's like,

903
00:48:24.030 --> 00:48:28.329
I don't want anybody to know that is who I am. Okay.

904
00:48:28.590 --> 00:48:30.610
I don't want anyone to know. I don't believe in Bigfoot.

905
00:48:30.730 --> 00:48:33.329
I don't want anybody to know that. I believe shadows, fatigue,

906
00:48:33.389 --> 00:48:37.239
and darkness can play tricks on people's perception. It's just,

907
00:48:37.260 --> 00:48:39.630
I don't know. I'm not comfortable with that being out

908
00:48:39.670 --> 00:48:40.110
in the world.

909
00:48:40.130 --> 00:48:43.429
It's a big deal.

910
00:48:45.090 --> 00:48:48.650
Quote, we live in a society with cameras and recording

911
00:48:48.690 --> 00:48:52.489
devices and sensors everywhere. The resident said to say that

912
00:48:52.550 --> 00:48:57.449
something is escaping everyone nationwide. Oh, that's a horrible place

913
00:48:57.469 --> 00:48:59.369
to put the resident said to say that something is

914
00:48:59.469 --> 00:49:03.510
escaping everyone nationwide. Okay. I see what the, um, Still,

915
00:49:03.650 --> 00:49:07.639
some longtime residents say the dense woods of Potchog State Forest,

916
00:49:07.969 --> 00:49:13.860
which spans more than 26,000 acres, would be as likely

917
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:18.449
a place as any if Bigfoot exists. Do you think

918
00:49:18.489 --> 00:49:19.170
it's in Connecticut?

919
00:49:20.050 --> 00:49:22.389
I don't see why not. And I remember that I

920
00:49:22.469 --> 00:49:24.630
actually played a bunch of shows in New Haven.

921
00:49:25.010 --> 00:49:26.010
Oh, New Haven, nice.

922
00:49:26.389 --> 00:49:29.510
Yeah, I like Connecticut. So if they want to have

923
00:49:29.550 --> 00:49:31.719
a Bigfoot, they can have a Bigfoot, I guess.

924
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:35.840
Especially in this day and age. In this day and age.

925
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:39.760
That was a good tag. Quote, every once in a while,

926
00:49:39.820 --> 00:49:42.329
if it's really quiet and still, you'll hear a branch

927
00:49:42.389 --> 00:49:46.070
pop in the distance. Resident Richard Fedor said, it makes

928
00:49:46.130 --> 00:49:46.750
you wonder.

929
00:49:48.070 --> 00:49:48.829
Trees.

930
00:49:49.570 --> 00:49:52.110
Now, I want to talk about what we really need

931
00:49:52.130 --> 00:49:58.880
to be discussing if Bigfoot is indeed being sighted in Connecticut. So,

932
00:49:59.380 --> 00:50:03.360
New York has become so expensive and so full of

933
00:50:03.420 --> 00:50:09.630
government bloat that even Sasquatch is heading to Connecticut. not Jersey.

934
00:50:09.690 --> 00:50:10.989
Cause he's not allowed there anymore.

935
00:50:11.429 --> 00:50:11.730
Yeah.

936
00:50:12.690 --> 00:50:14.289
I mean, that's what it says to me. That's what

937
00:50:14.329 --> 00:50:16.389
this reads as to me is like, Bigfoot is like,

938
00:50:16.769 --> 00:50:20.199
I can't afford real estate here. The zoning is too intense.

939
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:21.719
I'm going elsewhere.

940
00:50:22.860 --> 00:50:25.619
I mean, you can believe what you want, but the,

941
00:50:25.860 --> 00:50:29.320
the fucking people from the Bronx river zoo just, I'm

942
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.099
for the Bronx who just found, um, otters in the

943
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.699
Bronx river for the first time since the 1800s.

944
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:40.500
So yeah, But has anyone checked before? Yeah.

945
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:41.860
They've been checking.

946
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:44.949
Name the last time they checked before the time they

947
00:50:44.969 --> 00:50:45.320
found them.

948
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:48.849
This person who was checking has been checking since 2019.

949
00:50:48.849 --> 00:50:53.750
That's not even that long. It's like a bunch of years.

950
00:50:53.969 --> 00:50:55.590
Yeah, but how long was it that you said that

951
00:50:55.610 --> 00:50:56.349
they hadn't been there?

952
00:50:56.829 --> 00:50:58.030
Since the 1800s.

953
00:50:58.269 --> 00:51:00.949
Yeah, see? That's an awfully big gap.

954
00:51:01.690 --> 00:51:02.309
Fine.

955
00:51:03.789 --> 00:51:07.449
I'm just saying. Fine. Fine. I'm not trying to be difficult,

956
00:51:07.510 --> 00:51:09.429
but that's a little scurrilous.

957
00:51:09.469 --> 00:51:13.050
I'm just saying that nature is healing, so Bigfoot can

958
00:51:13.070 --> 00:51:14.679
come back to New York now.

959
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:17.159
Oh, I didn't say anything about nature. I said that

960
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.980
the tax situation and inflation and how far your dollar

961
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:23.579
can go is the problem. Even Sasquatch is like, I

962
00:51:23.860 --> 00:51:26.820
am not paying that amount of money to live in

963
00:51:26.860 --> 00:51:28.699
a converted walk-in closet.

964
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:31.829
I mean, I feel like if the river otters are

965
00:51:31.889 --> 00:51:32.650
okay with it.

966
00:51:33.409 --> 00:51:35.909
That's completely different because they live in the water.

967
00:51:37.010 --> 00:51:39.309
Bigfoot might live in the water. We don't know anything

968
00:51:39.449 --> 00:51:40.909
about them.

969
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:44.280
If Bigfoot lived in the water, we would know by

970
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:48.659
now because that guy's been checking since 2019.

971
00:51:48.659 --> 00:51:49.460
That's true.

972
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:57.119
We're going to take a quick break. And when we

973
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:02.929
get back, we'll talk about scientists discovering a mystery molecule

974
00:52:03.530 --> 00:52:22.210
right after this. Okay, Chell. Now we're headed to space.com. Yeah.

975
00:52:22.789 --> 00:52:24.889
You subscribe to space.com, don't you?

976
00:52:26.530 --> 00:52:27.809
Sure, I guess.

977
00:52:29.050 --> 00:52:30.289
Oh, now all of a sudden you're going to be

978
00:52:30.329 --> 00:52:30.969
coy about it?

979
00:52:31.869 --> 00:52:35.530
Yeah, I don't know. Do I? I don't think so.

980
00:52:36.190 --> 00:52:41.179
Oh, man. Methink the lady doth protest too much. Or something.

981
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:46.119
The headline is Scientists Discover Mystery Molecule on Pluto and

982
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:52.780
Saturn's Moon, Titan. We cannot say what it is. Oh, no.

983
00:52:53.820 --> 00:52:57.949
Separated by billions of miles and shaped by very different environments,

984
00:52:58.369 --> 00:53:02.750
Saturn's smoggy moon, Titan, and the dwarf planet, Pluto, have,

985
00:53:02.929 --> 00:53:06.650
on paper, very little in common, which is why they'll

986
00:53:06.670 --> 00:53:08.750
be great in a sitcom as roommates.

987
00:53:09.130 --> 00:53:09.690
Yay!

988
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:14.860
Titan is a geologically active world cloaked in an atmosphere

989
00:53:14.940 --> 00:53:18.619
denser than Earth's. Its landscape shaped by seas of liquid

990
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:22.789
methane and vast dunes built from organic particles that rain

991
00:53:22.849 --> 00:53:26.510
out of its skies. Pluto, by contrast, is.

992
00:53:26.590 --> 00:53:29.150
A frigid outpost with a tenuous atmosphere hovering.

993
00:53:28.809 --> 00:53:42.690
Above an icy, frozen surface. Yet observations from the James

994
00:53:42.710 --> 00:53:46.909
Webb Space Telescope have revealed these two disparate worlds share

995
00:53:46.969 --> 00:53:51.750
an identical, unexplained infrared signature on their surfaces, a sign

996
00:53:51.809 --> 00:53:55.929
that similar chemistry may be unfolding on both planets despite

997
00:53:56.369 --> 00:54:03.179
their stark differences. Okay. Maybe we're not so different after all.

998
00:54:03.539 --> 00:54:05.420
You know, maybe we can learn to get along.

999
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:08.719
Yeah, I mean, that's the whole point of the sitcom, so..

1000
00:54:10.010 --> 00:54:13.269
Detailed in a new study, the feature appears at precisely

1001
00:54:13.329 --> 00:54:17.690
the same infrared wavelength on both Titan and Pluto, indicating

1002
00:54:17.730 --> 00:54:21.619
that it absorbs light identically on both worlds. The signal

1003
00:54:21.659 --> 00:54:24.199
points to the presence of an unknown compound or a

1004
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:28.900
family of related compounds that scientists have yet to identify.

1005
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:32.860
That's cool that it might be a family.

1006
00:54:32.889 --> 00:54:38.750
Oh, if there's, wait, so if they're, If there's family,

1007
00:54:39.130 --> 00:54:43.469
a family on Titan, then that would suggest that almost

1008
00:54:43.590 --> 00:54:48.409
certainly Fast and the Furious is on Titan. Because that's

1009
00:54:48.449 --> 00:54:49.170
about family.

1010
00:54:49.849 --> 00:54:50.190
Yeah.

1011
00:54:50.550 --> 00:54:50.889
Yeah.

1012
00:54:51.429 --> 00:54:51.730
Yeah.

1013
00:54:52.530 --> 00:54:53.889
Yeah. Bitchin'.

1014
00:54:54.230 --> 00:54:57.429
That's totally how that works. Yeah. Yeah.

1015
00:54:57.489 --> 00:55:01.469
If you watched a few of those movies, you'd understand family. Family.

1016
00:55:01.489 --> 00:55:02.289
Yeah, I guess so.

1017
00:55:02.530 --> 00:55:08.110
Family. Family. Detailed in a new study, the feature appears... Oh,

1018
00:55:08.150 --> 00:55:12.929
I said that part. Quote, it's rather mysterious, Bruno Bazzard,

1019
00:55:13.010 --> 00:55:17.460
a planetary scientist at the Paris Observatory who led the discovery,

1020
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:22.139
told Space.com. We cannot say what it is. Bazzard first

1021
00:55:22.179 --> 00:55:27.539
spotted the unexplained feature while analyzing Titan observations from November 22nd,

1022
00:55:27.619 --> 00:55:34.409
or 2022, when the JWST gathered infrared light leaking through

1023
00:55:34.429 --> 00:55:38.840
the haze in very specific narrow wavelength bands. allowing scientists

1024
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:43.079
to peer directly through the otherwise opaque atmosphere. To make

1025
00:55:43.139 --> 00:55:49.519
sense of this light, researchers rely on spectroscopy. This is

1026
00:55:49.579 --> 00:55:54.329
a problem in the English language. It's thermometer, not thermometer.

1027
00:55:55.489 --> 00:55:59.329
But you can never guess. Spectroscopy? But it's probably not

1028
00:55:59.570 --> 00:56:03.590
pronounced that way. It's probably spectroscopy?

1029
00:56:03.610 --> 00:56:04.829
I don't know which one it is.

1030
00:56:06.260 --> 00:56:09.989
A technique used to identify compounds by the specific wavelengths

1031
00:56:10.340 --> 00:56:13.670
of light they absorb. Because every molecule leaves behind a

1032
00:56:13.769 --> 00:56:18.889
unique spectral fingerprint that telescopes can detect, astronomers can routinely

1033
00:56:18.969 --> 00:56:22.409
identify substances across the solar system and beyond, ranging from

1034
00:56:22.510 --> 00:56:26.440
simple water ice to complex molecules. Aw, man, they got

1035
00:56:26.500 --> 00:56:29.139
water ice over there. Yay! Yeah!

1036
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:29.960
Yay!

1037
00:56:30.420 --> 00:56:36.260
Oh, my local dairy dream... Just introduced Philadelphia Water Ice.

1038
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:38.480
They sell Philadelphia Water Ice now.

1039
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:39.519
Wow.

1040
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:40.880
Yeah, and it's like a brand.

1041
00:56:42.219 --> 00:56:42.760
Wow.

1042
00:56:42.980 --> 00:56:44.800
Like it's at Philadelphia Water Ice TM.

1043
00:56:45.619 --> 00:56:48.699
Huh. They even trademarked it.

1044
00:56:48.860 --> 00:56:51.659
I know. I mean, you'd think people would just be

1045
00:56:51.699 --> 00:56:53.320
afraid of the Philly people enough to be like, oh,

1046
00:56:53.340 --> 00:56:55.880
they'll enforce it themselves and we don't want that. Mm-hmm.

1047
00:56:57.300 --> 00:57:00.940
And my local Dairy Dream just expanded to a second

1048
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:03.860
location after like 90 years of being in my neighborhood.

1049
00:57:04.940 --> 00:57:06.280
And guess what that new location is?

1050
00:57:10.780 --> 00:57:11.360
I don't know.

1051
00:57:11.389 --> 00:57:15.849
It's where the random Rita Water Ice used to be

1052
00:57:15.929 --> 00:57:18.510
by me. That place, it closed about a year ago.

1053
00:57:19.389 --> 00:57:23.449
And now they're operating Philadelphia Water Ice and their Dairy

1054
00:57:23.469 --> 00:57:24.750
Dream in the same building.

1055
00:57:25.250 --> 00:57:25.730
Weird.

1056
00:57:26.130 --> 00:57:29.409
And there's a Rita's now like 10 minutes away from that.

1057
00:57:29.530 --> 00:57:31.230
So we still have a Rita's and we're like the

1058
00:57:31.349 --> 00:57:35.750
furthest West Rita's in Ohio. Like it's, I always joke

1059
00:57:35.769 --> 00:57:37.869
that it was like a hurricane blew through and when

1060
00:57:37.909 --> 00:57:41.090
it left, it just left a Rita's here. So they

1061
00:57:41.110 --> 00:57:43.030
just stayed for those who aren't from or haven't spent

1062
00:57:43.050 --> 00:57:45.320
time on the East coast. Rita's is a water ice

1063
00:57:45.380 --> 00:57:50.119
and custard business that I'm, I could really go for

1064
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:53.000
a Rita's right now. Yeah. A water ice. But yeah,

1065
00:57:53.019 --> 00:57:54.980
it's like I saw water ice. I was like, Oh no.

1066
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:56.820
Got to get a water ice.

1067
00:57:57.460 --> 00:57:58.800
Yeah.

1068
00:57:58.860 --> 00:58:01.519
I'm also like 39 hours into a fast, so I

1069
00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:02.519
kind of want to eat anything.

1070
00:58:02.539 --> 00:58:05.619
Let's see.

1071
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.360
But the newly detected feature neither matches any of the

1072
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:13.989
standard library spectra catalogs so far, nor does it appear

1073
00:58:14.070 --> 00:58:17.150
to be a fluke of the hardware. The study notes

1074
00:58:17.889 --> 00:58:21.929
the exact same absorption feature was detected by two different

1075
00:58:21.969 --> 00:58:27.639
JWST instruments, the near infrared spectrograph and and the mid-infrared instrument,

1076
00:58:28.420 --> 00:58:32.920
ruling out the possibility of an instrumental artifact. It is

1077
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:35.480
wild that we have telescopes that can kind of sort

1078
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:37.179
of tell what a molecule is.

1079
00:58:38.219 --> 00:58:40.760
Yeah, it reminds me of those lasers that can tell

1080
00:58:40.780 --> 00:58:42.860
you what kind of drugs things are.

1081
00:58:42.889 --> 00:58:44.659
I haven't seen those.

1082
00:58:45.030 --> 00:58:47.949
Oh yeah, you can, there's like a thing, and I

1083
00:58:48.010 --> 00:58:50.829
feel like it's called a Gemini too, which is not

1084
00:58:50.929 --> 00:58:53.449
related to the thing on the, you know.

1085
00:58:54.349 --> 00:58:54.789
To Google?

1086
00:58:55.260 --> 00:58:55.530
Yes.

1087
00:58:55.619 --> 00:58:56.280
Oh, so it works?

1088
00:58:57.210 --> 00:58:57.409
Yeah.

1089
00:58:57.610 --> 00:58:59.429
Instead of being Gemini? Yeah.

1090
00:58:59.550 --> 00:59:02.550
So what you do is you take your drugs and

1091
00:59:02.570 --> 00:59:06.110
you stick this laser at them and it tells you

1092
00:59:06.150 --> 00:59:09.869
what kind of drugs you have. Oh. It's really cool.

1093
00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:12.739
And it's probably meth, by the way.

1094
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:14.900
I thought now it's probably fentanyl.

1095
00:59:15.780 --> 00:59:18.110
Well, actually, usually it's cocaine.

1096
00:59:20.329 --> 00:59:24.030
Really? Yeah. I've always heard that when people get drugs

1097
00:59:24.090 --> 00:59:25.489
and they turn out to not be the drug they

1098
00:59:25.510 --> 00:59:26.869
thought it was, it's almost always fentanyl.

1099
00:59:27.590 --> 00:59:30.320
Oh, oh, no, this is the government. This isn't, like,

1100
00:59:30.940 --> 00:59:33.219
you playing around. Oh!

1101
00:59:34.460 --> 00:59:36.380
See, when I think of drug testing, I think of, like,

1102
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:39.219
of testing your drugs, rather. I think of, like, people

1103
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:41.199
who want to make sure that what they've bought is not,

1104
00:59:41.519 --> 00:59:43.230
you know, tainted, because they sell those.

1105
00:59:43.690 --> 00:59:46.489
Yeah, this is probably more expensive than that.

1106
00:59:46.710 --> 00:59:47.389
Yeah, it sounds it.

1107
00:59:48.010 --> 00:59:50.690
Yeah, it's like a big box, and it's got, like,

1108
00:59:50.750 --> 00:59:53.809
a laser connected, and you stick it on drugs.

1109
00:59:54.590 --> 00:59:58.519
But now my question is, Should they use that machine

1110
00:59:58.619 --> 01:00:00.519
and connect it to one of these machines to make

1111
01:00:00.579 --> 01:00:03.909
sure that the thing over there isn't fentanyl? Because maybe

1112
01:00:03.929 --> 01:00:06.469
that's what it is. Because fent seems to be everywhere

1113
01:00:06.530 --> 01:00:07.110
these days, right?

1114
01:00:07.130 --> 01:00:09.969
But isn't, I don't think it can be there. I mean,

1115
01:00:09.989 --> 01:00:10.769
it's possible.

1116
01:00:10.789 --> 01:00:12.699
In this day and age.

1117
01:00:13.219 --> 01:00:16.800
How do we know it's not something else? Like fentanyl,

1118
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:17.559
but not.

1119
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:21.539
Like not fentanyl?

1120
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:24.590
Like what we mix fentanyl with in Philly.

1121
01:00:25.650 --> 01:00:27.150
What do you guys mix fentanyl with in Philly?

1122
01:00:28.150 --> 01:00:29.789
That horse tranquilizer.

1123
01:00:29.989 --> 01:00:30.570
Oh, ketamine?

1124
01:00:31.630 --> 01:00:34.929
I don't think so. Maybe. But we call it trank.

1125
01:00:35.389 --> 01:00:39.639
And then your arms fall off.

1126
01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:42.440
That's not funny. Why are you laughing?

1127
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:46.900
I'm so sorry.

1128
01:00:49.260 --> 01:00:51.679
It's okay if they're mad they can't shut the podcast off.

1129
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:52.559
Their arms fell off.

1130
01:00:53.730 --> 01:00:54.849
No, it's really, really bad.

1131
01:00:55.190 --> 01:00:56.789
It sounds bad. Yeah.

1132
01:00:56.869 --> 01:00:59.789
You like lose circulation and then your body parts rot

1133
01:00:59.829 --> 01:01:00.389
and fall off.

1134
01:01:04.429 --> 01:01:06.690
Maybe I don't want to come for a visit the

1135
01:01:06.730 --> 01:01:08.949
second I get a new car. It's okay. I mean,

1136
01:01:08.969 --> 01:01:11.550
don't want to be running over any severed arms in

1137
01:01:11.570 --> 01:01:12.010
the streets.

1138
01:01:12.389 --> 01:01:15.260
Well, I mean, they probably wouldn't really like arms anymore.

1139
01:01:15.780 --> 01:01:20.449
Oh, okay. At least there's that. Yeah. After failing to

1140
01:01:20.510 --> 01:01:23.469
find a match with the catalog's spectral fingerprints of the

1141
01:01:23.530 --> 01:01:27.909
simplest and most common planetary ices, Bazzard wondered whether another

1142
01:01:28.010 --> 01:01:32.000
world with similar atmospheric chemistry might hold a clue. He

1143
01:01:32.059 --> 01:01:35.739
turned to his colleague Emmanuel Lelouch of the Paris Observatory,

1144
01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:39.619
who had just led a JWST program that had observed

1145
01:01:39.739 --> 01:01:43.800
Pluto in May of 2023. Quote, I asked him, do

1146
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:47.039
you have a signature on Pluto at this exact wavelength?

1147
01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:51.219
Bizaard recalled in the interview with Space.com, so we looked

1148
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:55.699
around and found that it was present there. There is

1149
01:01:55.739 --> 01:01:59.800
no evidence that the mystery molecule is a biosignature, Bizaard said. Instead,

1150
01:01:59.860 --> 01:02:04.579
it is likely reflecting the kind of prebiotic chemistry that

1151
01:02:04.619 --> 01:02:08.119
has been operating in Titan's oxygen-free environment for more than

1152
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:15.019
four billion years. So it's kombucha. Hmm. Because it said prebiotic. Yeah.

1153
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:15.760
Yeah.

1154
01:02:16.860 --> 01:02:21.360
Okay. Sounds like that's, that sounds like kombucha or booch

1155
01:02:21.739 --> 01:02:26.010
as the cool people call it. Going to slam some booch.

1156
01:02:26.730 --> 01:02:29.869
They, I mean, they might, I don't know. I'm not cool.

1157
01:02:30.269 --> 01:02:31.809
Do you, do you don't drink kombucha?

1158
01:02:32.309 --> 01:02:32.510
No.

1159
01:02:33.250 --> 01:02:34.010
Have you had it before?

1160
01:02:34.389 --> 01:02:34.639
Yes.

1161
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:36.039
Did you not like it?

1162
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:39.780
Yes. It tastes like vinegar.

1163
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:42.599
Yeah. I think it might be, there might be some

1164
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:42.880
in there.

1165
01:02:42.900 --> 01:02:46.619
I think that's how that goes, but it's just like, eh.

1166
01:02:46.900 --> 01:02:49.039
I don't really need this in my life.

1167
01:02:50.179 --> 01:02:52.539
I am the kind of person who prides myself on

1168
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:57.239
collecting acquired tastes, but I just, I mean, I could,

1169
01:02:57.320 --> 01:02:59.300
I could start to like, think it was okay, but

1170
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:01.980
I just, it just wasn't, it didn't stick around for me.

1171
01:03:02.539 --> 01:03:04.440
No, it's just, it's just not very good.

1172
01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:08.989
Sorry. Wow. First, she makes fun of drug addicts losing

1173
01:03:09.010 --> 01:03:11.429
their arms and now she insults kombucha.

1174
01:03:11.699 --> 01:03:14.079
I'm so sorry. I just didn't know I was going

1175
01:03:14.099 --> 01:03:16.760
to say that, so I got really giggly about it.

1176
01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:19.440
That's why. It wasn't because you think it's absurdly funny.

1177
01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:21.199
It is not funny at all.

1178
01:03:24.170 --> 01:03:26.750
You heard it here first, folks. She didn't think it

1179
01:03:26.769 --> 01:03:28.469
was funny, and that's why she laughed.

1180
01:03:29.170 --> 01:03:31.539
Oh, my God. This is..

1181
01:03:31.769 --> 01:03:34.670
Well, go ahead. No, no, no. No, say your piece.

1182
01:03:34.690 --> 01:03:36.030
No, just go to commercial.

1183
01:03:36.230 --> 01:03:51.840
Cut to commercial. Chell, you're going to be very excited. Okay.

1184
01:03:53.340 --> 01:03:59.630
This is from thecourier.co.uk, and the headline is Mystery Big

1185
01:03:59.829 --> 01:04:03.550
Cat Spotted Near Dundee Stuns Locals.

1186
01:04:05.309 --> 01:04:06.909
They don't have big cats.

1187
01:04:08.750 --> 01:04:12.809
A mystery, quote, big cat spotted prowling around a trout

1188
01:04:12.869 --> 01:04:17.000
fishery near Dundee has sparked a huge online debate. The

1189
01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:21.099
striking feline was filmed at Ladyat Trout Fishery near Lundy,

1190
01:04:21.380 --> 01:04:24.659
with footage of the animal quickly spreading across social media.

1191
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:28.320
Almost a half a million people have now viewed the

1192
01:04:28.340 --> 01:04:32.409
13-second clip. Fishery owner David Duff said the animal has

1193
01:04:32.429 --> 01:04:35.210
been living around the site for around 18 months and

1194
01:04:35.289 --> 01:04:41.570
is regularly spotted by staff and customers. Okay. What about

1195
01:04:41.590 --> 01:04:43.179
this is getting you?

1196
01:04:43.739 --> 01:04:46.960
It's just a large house cat, probably.

1197
01:04:47.260 --> 01:04:49.320
No, it is. The photo is of a large house cat.

1198
01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:52.360
Wow. That's great.

1199
01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:56.239
That is literally like it looks like a kitty.

1200
01:04:57.239 --> 01:04:57.420
Aw.

1201
01:04:57.980 --> 01:05:00.929
But some people, I guess, disagree with me. It just

1202
01:05:00.949 --> 01:05:03.130
looks like a kitty to me. He said he has

1203
01:05:03.190 --> 01:05:06.130
also been appearing on security cameras and believes it's been

1204
01:05:06.150 --> 01:05:09.980
hunting rabbits around the fishery. Exactly what the animal is

1205
01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:13.619
remains a mystery, although Mr. Duff told the courier he

1206
01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:17.900
believes it is a larger-than-ordinary domestic cat. Okay, that's what

1207
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:25.480
I think, too. He said, quote... Sorry. I'm gonna... I

1208
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:26.820
need you to understand why I laughed at this.

1209
01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:27.659
Okay.

1210
01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:32.579
Although Mr. Duff told the courier he believes it is

1211
01:05:32.619 --> 01:05:35.900
a larger-than-ordinary domestic cat, he said, quote, he's a lot

1212
01:05:35.940 --> 01:05:40.429
bigger than a cat. That is solid reporting.

1213
01:05:41.190 --> 01:05:45.429
Yeah, that's what that means.

1214
01:05:45.610 --> 01:05:48.389
That's like those movie trailers where it's like, he was

1215
01:05:48.469 --> 01:05:53.199
above the law. I'm above the law. He was out

1216
01:05:53.260 --> 01:05:58.420
for revenge. I'm out for revenge. Yeah. Quote, he's not

1217
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:04.579
a vegetarian. I can assure you that. He's just spectacular. Mr.

1218
01:06:04.619 --> 01:06:06.619
Duff added, a lot of people are saying it's a

1219
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:10.369
Bengal cat. My experience of cats is very limited, but

1220
01:06:10.389 --> 01:06:12.369
I've Googled it, and when you see him up close,

1221
01:06:12.610 --> 01:06:18.949
he's definitely striped. Whether he's a cross, an escaped cat,

1222
01:06:19.010 --> 01:06:21.880
or a very expensive pet that's become wild, it doesn't

1223
01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:25.860
matter to me. He's chosen Ladyat as his home. The

1224
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:28.880
latest footage was captured by David after he spotted the

1225
01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:31.969
animal from his balcony overlooking the water. He said the

1226
01:06:31.989 --> 01:06:35.269
cat was sitting in a hunting position before eventually disappearing

1227
01:06:35.309 --> 01:06:39.210
into the bushes. The sighting has prompted a debate online

1228
01:06:39.570 --> 01:06:42.969
with a flurry of viewers offering their own theories about

1229
01:06:42.989 --> 01:06:46.389
the animal's identity. Mr. Duff said, quote, it's all over

1230
01:06:46.429 --> 01:06:48.610
the world. It's just short of a half a million views.

1231
01:06:49.050 --> 01:06:51.280
The top countries at the moment are the UK, Ireland,

1232
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:54.420
and the United States. Everyone's a Facebook expert. They're all

1233
01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:56.679
very happy to dish up their opinion on it. And

1234
01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:58.059
I think it's fantastic.

1235
01:06:59.079 --> 01:06:59.280
Aww.

1236
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:03.070
What are your thoughts on this cat-related story?

1237
01:07:03.550 --> 01:07:06.989
It's a cat. I don't know. I mean... I can't

1238
01:07:07.090 --> 01:07:10.170
see the cat, so I have to just imagine what

1239
01:07:10.210 --> 01:07:11.869
it looks like. I know it's striped.

1240
01:07:12.530 --> 01:07:13.630
It looks like a cat.

1241
01:07:14.269 --> 01:07:16.469
Yeah, I think it's just a very large cat. They

1242
01:07:16.489 --> 01:07:20.690
can get big, and it could eat bunnies or, you know, rodents,

1243
01:07:20.769 --> 01:07:21.269
I guess.

1244
01:07:21.710 --> 01:07:22.570
Definitely eat bunnies.

1245
01:07:22.590 --> 01:07:28.139
Just living outside, doing its life things, getting attention from

1246
01:07:28.179 --> 01:07:29.900
the internet. Sounds like good stuff.

1247
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:33.900
Sounds like a cat to me. Yeah. Despite the speculation, Mr.

1248
01:07:33.980 --> 01:07:36.610
Duff said the footage alone was not enough to establish

1249
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:40.250
the animal's size or species. The fishery owner believes the

1250
01:07:40.289 --> 01:07:44.590
surrounding countryside provides the perfect habitat for a predator. He said, quote,

1251
01:07:44.829 --> 01:07:47.530
when you look at the wildcat habitat, it's perfect for it.

1252
01:07:48.170 --> 01:07:52.719
There are lots of... What is with this reporting? They

1253
01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:54.179
say what he said, then they have the quote of

1254
01:07:54.219 --> 01:07:58.349
him saying it. Yeah. there's lots of trees, forest, and

1255
01:07:58.369 --> 01:08:00.389
wild grass, and there are lots of wild animals here.

1256
01:08:00.449 --> 01:08:02.590
It's just perfect for a cat to live. Yeah, that's

1257
01:08:02.610 --> 01:08:05.480
what he said. David said the mystery feline was just

1258
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:08.500
the latest example of the wildlife attracted to the area.

1259
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:11.980
He added, quote, we have ospreys, rare bats, and rare

1260
01:08:12.059 --> 01:08:16.460
birds flying around. Just a mecca for wildlife. And to me,

1261
01:08:16.539 --> 01:08:18.739
this is just the cherry on top. He does sound

1262
01:08:18.760 --> 01:08:19.619
like a fun guy.

1263
01:08:20.220 --> 01:08:23.159
He sounds like he's really happy about everything. Yeah. So

1264
01:08:23.260 --> 01:08:24.439
I'm happy for him.

1265
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:25.939
Just fantastic.

1266
01:08:26.510 --> 01:08:28.569
Yeah, he's got a fun cat and he's got like

1267
01:08:28.689 --> 01:08:31.149
ospreys or whatever. So.

1268
01:08:32.069 --> 01:08:34.449
It's a sign that the environment I'm looking after is

1269
01:08:34.489 --> 01:08:38.939
in pristine condition, he said. A cat and a little

1270
01:08:38.989 --> 01:08:41.220
fishery in the middle of nowhere has caught the attention.

1271
01:08:41.500 --> 01:08:42.760
It's just phenomenal.

1272
01:08:42.779 --> 01:08:46.479
Hold on, I guess.

1273
01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:54.800
Yeah, people are like, they're saying it looks like a

1274
01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:58.720
Scottish wildcat. I don't know what that I don't know

1275
01:08:58.739 --> 01:09:00.659
what that is. I usually don't look at the comment section,

1276
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:02.279
but since it was about cats, I was like, nobody's

1277
01:09:02.300 --> 01:09:04.020
going to be mean. It's just going to be people going,

1278
01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:07.260
I like cats and I'm afraid of the backlash. It

1279
01:09:07.300 --> 01:09:09.020
does kind of look like a Scottish wildcat.

1280
01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:10.899
I don't know what that is.

1281
01:09:11.100 --> 01:09:12.039
Oh my gosh.

1282
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:12.579
I guess.

1283
01:09:12.859 --> 01:09:16.260
I mean, you can Google it. You don't have to.

1284
01:09:16.340 --> 01:09:18.810
I mean, it's just, we're just doing a show.

1285
01:09:19.699 --> 01:09:22.720
But I'm not supposed to do things when I'm doing

1286
01:09:22.779 --> 01:09:23.479
the show.

1287
01:09:23.619 --> 01:09:24.399
You don't know that.

1288
01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:29.689
Didn't you tell me like 10 times last time? Stop

1289
01:09:29.739 --> 01:09:31.949
doing things while we're doing the show.

1290
01:09:31.970 --> 01:09:36.930
Yeah, but you were like painting and trying to make

1291
01:09:36.970 --> 01:09:38.189
a smoothie in the blender.

1292
01:09:39.069 --> 01:09:41.430
Oh, so this is okay, but that's not?

1293
01:09:41.470 --> 01:09:45.460
Because this is related. Oh. And slightly less noisy.

1294
01:09:45.579 --> 01:09:46.979
The smoothie was related.

1295
01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:47.979
Oh, it was?

1296
01:09:48.529 --> 01:09:50.130
I don't remember what it was related to, but it

1297
01:09:50.170 --> 01:09:50.649
was related.

1298
01:09:50.670 --> 01:09:53.329
It could be.

1299
01:09:53.390 --> 01:09:55.930
I mean, a Scottish wildcat is like super fucking cute,

1300
01:09:56.069 --> 01:09:58.189
but it also looks like kind of a domestic cat

1301
01:09:58.689 --> 01:10:03.250
with like a rounder face. So I would love to

1302
01:10:03.310 --> 01:10:03.689
have it.

1303
01:10:04.329 --> 01:10:05.170
You would love to have it?

1304
01:10:05.670 --> 01:10:06.510
It's really cute.

1305
01:10:06.850 --> 01:10:08.409
But why would you take it away when it's living

1306
01:10:08.430 --> 01:10:09.850
its best life killing stuff?

1307
01:10:10.369 --> 01:10:12.750
Oh, I wasn't. I think what I really meant is

1308
01:10:12.789 --> 01:10:13.729
I just want to like pet it.

1309
01:10:13.949 --> 01:10:14.210
Oh, yeah.

1310
01:10:14.229 --> 01:10:15.470
I don't like want it in my house.

1311
01:10:15.710 --> 01:10:17.289
Oh, you want to pet it? I thought it's not

1312
01:10:17.310 --> 01:10:19.260
a snake. Why would you want to pet it?

1313
01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:21.079
Because it's also soft.

1314
01:10:26.930 --> 01:10:32.869
Well, kids, we're going to take a quick break. But

1315
01:10:32.909 --> 01:10:34.949
when we get back, we're going to talk about a

1316
01:10:35.210 --> 01:10:42.369
strange Milky Way planetary system that's leaving scientists puzzled. Right

1317
01:10:42.430 --> 01:10:52.850
after this. Chell, when you think of the Milky Way,

1318
01:10:53.430 --> 01:10:54.329
what do you imagine?

1319
01:10:57.329 --> 01:10:59.670
Like stars.

1320
01:11:00.630 --> 01:11:01.149
Stars?

1321
01:11:02.010 --> 01:11:04.859
Like some sort of thing that's up there that makes

1322
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:08.880
it that thing. And then some planets.

1323
01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:13.319
Yeah. And then planets. Planets are in there, though.

1324
01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:14.140
Planets.

1325
01:11:14.380 --> 01:11:21.720
Okay. Okay, well... This article from Reuters says, Strange Milky

1326
01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:24.739
Way planetary system leaves scientists puzzled.

1327
01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:27.300
Oh.

1328
01:11:27.739 --> 01:11:31.880
Yeah. Scientists are documenting a planetary system in the Milky

1329
01:11:31.939 --> 01:11:35.279
Way galaxy that is so starkly dissimilar to our own

1330
01:11:35.380 --> 01:11:38.699
solar system that they are struggling to find the proper

1331
01:11:38.810 --> 01:11:41.869
terminology to describe it. Wow.

1332
01:11:42.069 --> 01:11:44.869
I don't know what that means. And they don't either, apparently.

1333
01:11:46.250 --> 01:11:54.289
It's like, Like, it's like, hmm. It's like, you know,

1334
01:11:54.310 --> 01:12:03.550
you know, it's big. Yeah, it's big. It's really big.

1335
01:12:04.149 --> 01:12:04.770
Wow.

1336
01:12:06.100 --> 01:12:14.319
And in space. Yeah, it's in space. Maybe the scientists

1337
01:12:14.340 --> 01:12:16.079
they were talking to just had like a really big

1338
01:12:16.140 --> 01:12:18.439
lunch and were kind of slow coming off it. And

1339
01:12:18.460 --> 01:12:23.010
that's why when they wrote this article. The system includes

1340
01:12:23.090 --> 01:12:25.869
a red dwarf star about 40% of the mass of

1341
01:12:26.029 --> 01:12:29.289
our sun that is orbited by a brown dwarf, a

1342
01:12:29.329 --> 01:12:32.810
celestial body that blurs the line between planet and star.

1343
01:12:34.590 --> 01:12:37.739
The brown dwarf in turn is orbited by a gaseous

1344
01:12:37.859 --> 01:12:43.920
Jupiter-sized world. Michelle's like trying to figure this out.

1345
01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:45.859
I got it.

1346
01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:52.100
Newly discovered using the European Southern Observatory's Chile-based Very Large Telescope.

1347
01:12:52.140 --> 01:12:56.539
That's literally... It's called a Very Large Telescope. Each word

1348
01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:58.899
was capitalized, so I think that's literally the name, Very

1349
01:12:58.939 --> 01:13:00.039
Large Telescope. Wow.

1350
01:13:00.340 --> 01:13:00.720
Lucky.

1351
01:13:02.579 --> 01:13:05.640
Using our solar system as a definitional frame of reference,

1352
01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:08.880
a body that orbits another body that orbits a star

1353
01:13:08.979 --> 01:13:12.930
should be called a moon, or in this case, an exomoon,

1354
01:13:13.369 --> 01:13:17.810
because it's beyond our solar system. But... The object that

1355
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:21.130
orbits the brown dwarf is unlikely any of the many

1356
01:13:21.229 --> 01:13:25.609
moons in our solar system, all of which are relatively small, rocky,

1357
01:13:25.789 --> 01:13:29.930
or icy worlds, in terms of composition and size, at least.

1358
01:13:31.149 --> 01:13:36.939
So what should we call it? Quote, this will certainly

1359
01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:40.020
be a matter of debate. In general, most astronomers are

1360
01:13:40.060 --> 01:13:43.850
fine with the term exosatellite, at least as a placeholder

1361
01:13:43.909 --> 01:13:47.319
until we formally adopt definitions for objects like the one

1362
01:13:47.380 --> 01:13:51.600
we found, said Kevin Hoy, a doctoral student in astrophysics

1363
01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:57.260
at the Universidad Diego Portaz in Chile, also affiliated with

1364
01:13:57.279 --> 01:14:01.619
the ExoMoon research group YEMS, lead author of the study

1365
01:14:01.689 --> 01:14:04.390
published in the Journal of Nature. What do you think

1366
01:14:04.430 --> 01:14:05.270
we should call it, Michelle?

1367
01:14:06.670 --> 01:14:08.829
Um, like, uh, I think we should just call it

1368
01:14:08.869 --> 01:14:10.850
a moon and just deal with the fact that it's

1369
01:14:10.909 --> 01:14:13.550
not like another moon that we've dealt with before. It's

1370
01:14:13.569 --> 01:14:15.149
just a moon. It's going to be a moon now.

1371
01:14:15.689 --> 01:14:18.029
But if it's a moon, moon refers to being in

1372
01:14:18.109 --> 01:14:18.930
our solar system.

1373
01:14:19.750 --> 01:14:22.810
Oh, it's the exomoon or whatever the fuck we just

1374
01:14:22.829 --> 01:14:23.369
said it was.

1375
01:14:24.229 --> 01:14:25.670
That's a really boring answer.

1376
01:14:27.069 --> 01:14:29.399
You know what? You just want me to make up

1377
01:14:29.460 --> 01:14:31.100
a name for its name is Sam.

1378
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:32.760
That's what they're going to do there.

1379
01:14:32.779 --> 01:14:32.859
Yeah.

1380
01:14:33.659 --> 01:14:40.010
Sam. satellite augmented moon oh you did it you did

1381
01:14:40.029 --> 01:14:45.250
it damn that was easy why are they complaining i.

1382
01:14:45.250 --> 01:14:47.239
Don't know this doesn't seem hard.

1383
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:50.640
At all i guess see i was gonna if you

1384
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:55.060
won but i i had my idea because it's exo

1385
01:14:55.100 --> 01:14:57.619
moon i was gonna go with ecto moon like ecto

1386
01:14:57.729 --> 01:15:00.689
cooler oh okay you know like the high c that

1387
01:15:00.710 --> 01:15:03.329
we would drink when we were kids that was delicious.

1388
01:15:03.489 --> 01:15:05.569
I don't actually know if I ever had it. I

1389
01:15:05.609 --> 01:15:06.430
just know it existed.

1390
01:15:06.470 --> 01:15:07.710
You never had juice boxes?

1391
01:15:08.489 --> 01:15:10.029
No, I did. I just don't know if I ever

1392
01:15:10.069 --> 01:15:12.359
had the Ecto Cooler one.

1393
01:15:13.720 --> 01:15:18.239
Were you ever happy as a child? No. Then you

1394
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:18.800
never had it.

1395
01:15:19.260 --> 01:15:19.619
Yeah.

1396
01:15:19.659 --> 01:15:22.869
That's the easiest way to know. You would have been

1397
01:15:22.930 --> 01:15:23.869
happy at least once.

1398
01:15:24.569 --> 01:15:24.670
Oh.

1399
01:15:25.170 --> 01:15:30.500
Sorry, pal. That's okay. Quote, we're really hitting the limits

1400
01:15:30.539 --> 01:15:33.380
of how far we can stretch the words we invented

1401
01:15:33.420 --> 01:15:36.739
to describe. So it's just funny because the words we invented.

1402
01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:39.989
Yeah, you can do whatever you want with them.

1403
01:15:40.569 --> 01:15:44.289
To describe the solar system and other systems in this case,

1404
01:15:44.350 --> 01:15:47.750
Hoy said. This system is about 71 light years away

1405
01:15:47.789 --> 01:15:50.420
from Earth. A light year is the distance light travels

1406
01:15:50.460 --> 01:15:52.920
in a year, 5.9 trillion miles or 9.5 trillion kilometers.

1407
01:15:57.579 --> 01:15:59.920
It's pretty interesting. I wonder what it's like there. Probably

1408
01:15:59.939 --> 01:16:01.079
hot or very cold. And there's no air.

1409
01:16:26.479 --> 01:16:27.750
Oh, because there's no air.

1410
01:16:28.470 --> 01:16:32.569
Oh. Quote, I think this discovery is open to Pandora's

1411
01:16:32.609 --> 01:16:35.770
box for the scientific community. This type of object is

1412
01:16:35.829 --> 01:16:39.609
completely new and unusual, truly different from what we were

1413
01:16:39.710 --> 01:16:42.460
familiar with in our solar system. Now we will have

1414
01:16:42.500 --> 01:16:46.760
to understand through theoretical models how these kinds of objects form,

1415
01:16:46.859 --> 01:16:50.260
whether they are common or not, said study co-author Alice

1416
01:16:50.319 --> 01:16:57.340
Zerlo at Universidad Diego Portales, astrophysicist and YEM's director. I

1417
01:16:57.359 --> 01:16:59.300
thought you were raising your hand. Oh, sorry.

1418
01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:01.800
I was just thinking about how it works.

1419
01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:04.699
Michelle's, like, miming galaxies above her.

1420
01:17:04.720 --> 01:17:08.659
I have to, like... Yeah, I have to, like, tactilely.

1421
01:17:08.149 --> 01:17:10.930
Figure it out. Okay. I mean, fair enough. Whatever helps.

1422
01:17:11.430 --> 01:17:13.069
Yeah, I was just thinking that that means they have

1423
01:17:13.130 --> 01:17:13.789
two suns.

1424
01:17:14.630 --> 01:17:18.930
Yeah. Except one sun is orbiting a celestial body.

1425
01:17:19.470 --> 01:17:21.989
Yes, but it'd still be, like, two suns.

1426
01:17:22.630 --> 01:17:24.590
Oh, I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying, like, but that

1427
01:17:24.630 --> 01:17:26.789
makes it even weirder. That would be like having a sun...

1428
01:17:27.300 --> 01:17:30.100
that's orbiting a planet that the planet is orbiting a sun.

1429
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:32.000
It's like a turducken.

1430
01:17:32.859 --> 01:17:36.220
Yeah. You know, suns and a planet. Yeah.

1431
01:17:36.579 --> 01:17:37.539
But otherwise identical.

1432
01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:38.819
Yeah.

1433
01:17:39.979 --> 01:17:45.439
Quote. Oh man. They're, they're coming at you. Chell. What? Quote.

1434
01:17:45.579 --> 01:17:48.050
We deliberately chose not to call it a moon.

1435
01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:51.109
Fuck you. Man.

1436
01:17:51.149 --> 01:17:53.930
Chell's dropped like three F bombs this week or this month.

1437
01:17:53.949 --> 01:17:58.069
And usually she maybe drops one at most. She's aggro.

1438
01:17:58.979 --> 01:18:01.939
That's because this object is unlike any moon in our

1439
01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:05.560
solar system. It's much more massive, and it doesn't orbit

1440
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:07.520
a planet. That's a really good point.

1441
01:18:08.180 --> 01:18:12.220
But they said that the brown dwarf is kind of

1442
01:18:12.260 --> 01:18:14.100
a cross between a planet and the sun.

1443
01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:14.840
And the star, yeah.

1444
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:17.770
So, like, that doesn't count now?

1445
01:18:19.130 --> 01:18:23.609
Well, I'll let them finish. It orbits a brown dwarf,

1446
01:18:23.949 --> 01:18:26.449
an object that's somewhere between a planet and a star.

1447
01:18:26.989 --> 01:18:29.340
Since we've never seen a system quite like this before,

1448
01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:32.039
we're still figuring out the best way to describe it.

1449
01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:36.100
And Michelle didn't even really finish college, Zerlo said.

1450
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:39.359
I finished college.

1451
01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:41.229
Where's your diploma? What?

1452
01:18:41.229 --> 01:18:42.739
Where's your diploma?

1453
01:18:42.739 --> 01:18:43.539
I don't know.

1454
01:18:43.539 --> 01:18:48.529
There we have it, everybody. I think it's probably upstairs somewhere.

1455
01:18:48.529 --> 01:18:49.329
I don't know.

1456
01:18:49.329 --> 01:18:52.050
What were you going to say before that?

1457
01:18:53.069 --> 01:18:53.869
Oh, I have no idea.

1458
01:18:53.989 --> 01:19:00.619
That's good. While more than 6,300 exoplanets, as planets outside

1459
01:19:00.659 --> 01:19:04.779
our solar system are known, have been discovered, finding exomoons

1460
01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:08.880
has proved more challenging with only a few good candidates identified.

1461
01:19:09.529 --> 01:19:11.869
The researchers are trying to figure out the origins of

1462
01:19:11.909 --> 01:19:15.600
the exosatellite. Quote, it may have formed from the disk

1463
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:18.260
of gas and dust around the brown dwarf just as

1464
01:19:18.340 --> 01:19:22.000
planets form around stars. Or it may have been captured

1465
01:19:22.039 --> 01:19:26.100
gravitationally by the brown dwarf later on, Zerlo said. A

1466
01:19:26.140 --> 01:19:28.359
brown dwarf is neither a star nor a planet, but

1467
01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:32.060
something in between. They could be considered aspiring stars that

1468
01:19:32.140 --> 01:19:35.359
during their formative stages did not reach the mass necessary

1469
01:19:35.420 --> 01:19:38.850
to ignite nuclear fusion at their core, like a star.

1470
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:43.369
But they are more massive than the biggest of planets.

1471
01:19:44.529 --> 01:19:47.149
Oh, so they're just like a really big planet?

1472
01:19:47.850 --> 01:19:48.409
I guess so.

1473
01:19:49.109 --> 01:19:51.789
Oh, I thought maybe they were on fire, but it

1474
01:19:51.829 --> 01:19:53.479
sounds like they're not on fire.

1475
01:19:53.489 --> 01:19:55.060
I mean, they could be a little on fire, like

1476
01:19:55.100 --> 01:19:56.619
Mercury's a little on fire.

1477
01:19:56.640 --> 01:19:57.979
I don't know.

1478
01:19:58.579 --> 01:20:00.840
Actually, I think Mercury's a lot on fire. I think

1479
01:20:00.899 --> 01:20:02.260
Venus is a little on fire.

1480
01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:03.039
Okay. Okay.

1481
01:20:06.020 --> 01:20:09.079
Quote, because the system is very young, the brown dwarf

1482
01:20:09.140 --> 01:20:11.819
is still shining with the heat left from its formation,

1483
01:20:12.039 --> 01:20:16.819
Zerlo said. Okay, so it's still hot. Since the first

1484
01:20:16.859 --> 01:20:20.890
detection of exoplanets in the 1990s, scientists have spotted a

1485
01:20:20.989 --> 01:20:24.590
wide variety of planetary systems, some built much like our

1486
01:20:24.689 --> 01:20:28.010
own and others quite different. The one examined in the

1487
01:20:28.050 --> 01:20:31.729
new research is an outlier. Quote, this is the best

1488
01:20:31.770 --> 01:20:36.399
quote ever. Quote, yep, this system is definitely weird. There

1489
01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:39.680
was likely a pretty chaotic dynamical history that left it

1490
01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:42.100
in its current state, but it's really hard to tell

1491
01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:45.140
exactly what kind of chaos it went through. Hoy said.

1492
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:48.779
Why is your hand on your chest?

1493
01:20:48.819 --> 01:20:50.210
It went through so much.

1494
01:20:50.329 --> 01:20:53.789
It went through so much, but look how strong it is. Yeah.

1495
01:20:53.869 --> 01:20:58.609
Bigger than any planet ever. Yeah. Yeah. I just love that.

1496
01:20:58.810 --> 01:21:00.979
It's like you're quoting somebody in a story and you

1497
01:21:00.989 --> 01:21:02.060
decide to leave in. Yep.

1498
01:21:03.020 --> 01:21:03.239
Yep.

1499
01:21:03.300 --> 01:21:05.560
Yep. This system is definitely weird.

1500
01:21:06.239 --> 01:21:09.739
They just felt like it wasn't complete otherwise.

1501
01:21:10.300 --> 01:21:14.189
I guess so. I guess you're right. It must be

1502
01:21:14.229 --> 01:21:16.729
nice to be right. Ever.

1503
01:21:16.810 --> 01:21:17.970
No. No.

1504
01:21:19.229 --> 01:21:25.250
I'm jealous. So, you're going with Sam? Sure.

1505
01:21:25.270 --> 01:21:28.479
I don't care. They didn't like that I wanted to

1506
01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:31.060
call it a moon, so now I am angry.

1507
01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:36.270
You know... This is the problem with giving Michelle criticism

1508
01:21:36.850 --> 01:21:40.250
is she always agrees with you until she doesn't. Then

1509
01:21:40.289 --> 01:21:42.109
all of a sudden she's like ready to die on

1510
01:21:42.149 --> 01:21:42.449
a hill.

1511
01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:45.270
I don't, I don't care.

1512
01:21:45.300 --> 01:21:47.850
I think you're just saying that as cope now.

1513
01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:49.600
I don't care.

1514
01:21:49.619 --> 01:21:52.520
Oh, that was more convincing. That second one was much

1515
01:21:52.539 --> 01:21:53.819
more convincing. Good.

1516
01:21:53.899 --> 01:21:55.039
I don't care anymore.

1517
01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:56.000
Okay.

1518
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:56.420
Okay.

1519
01:21:56.739 --> 01:22:01.899
We all believe you don't care. Okay. Do you feel better? No.

1520
01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:06.899
You're supposed to not care! Oh, I caught you. I

1521
01:22:06.920 --> 01:22:13.859
caught you. You fell for it. Bamboozled again. Sorry, bro.

1522
01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:16.020
I owe it to my listeners to get to the

1523
01:22:16.060 --> 01:22:20.270
bottom of this, and that's why I did it. Well,

1524
01:22:20.329 --> 01:22:22.409
when we come back, we're going to talk about the

1525
01:22:22.750 --> 01:22:27.510
internet sensation that's been sweeping the nation. And it's a

1526
01:22:27.689 --> 01:22:33.069
little weird raccoon. Oh, weird. Oh, man, Michelle's going to

1527
01:22:33.090 --> 01:22:34.489
be mad. This is going to be even better than

1528
01:22:34.529 --> 01:22:45.310
I thought right after this. All right, we're back and

1529
01:22:45.810 --> 01:22:51.819
heading to theguardian.com for a headline that says, Who is Jimothy?

1530
01:22:52.760 --> 01:22:56.300
Seven things you need to know about the Internet's favorite raccoon.

1531
01:22:57.140 --> 01:22:59.180
And for those who don't know, Jimothy has become a

1532
01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:03.579
pretty big sensation. Um, he is a raccoon with a

1533
01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:07.359
spinal disorder. Oh, that makes him look like a little ball.

1534
01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:08.520
Yeah.

1535
01:23:09.220 --> 01:23:12.380
So Chell, when we started, when I told her that

1536
01:23:12.420 --> 01:23:14.560
we were going to talk about Jimothy, she was like, Oh,

1537
01:23:15.020 --> 01:23:17.100
I've just heard about it or whatever. And then you're like,

1538
01:23:17.119 --> 01:23:18.560
I never saw a picture of him. So I sent

1539
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:21.680
you a link and then you looked at more picture

1540
01:23:21.699 --> 01:23:24.720
of you're like, Oh my God, you're literally like exactly

1541
01:23:24.739 --> 01:23:25.939
what everybody else reacted as.

1542
01:23:26.119 --> 01:23:29.159
Yeah. I'm watching a video of him like moving around

1543
01:23:29.239 --> 01:23:31.899
and stuff. He's amazing.

1544
01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:32.520
I don't know.

1545
01:23:32.539 --> 01:23:35.720
I don't have anything mean to say about him ever again.

1546
01:23:35.739 --> 01:23:37.819
Look at him go.

1547
01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:42.850
As of today, the internet belongs to Jimothy, a raccoon

1548
01:23:42.869 --> 01:23:45.590
with a striking silhouette who has gone from a minor

1549
01:23:45.630 --> 01:23:49.789
celebrity in Seattle to social media main character overnight. Jimothy

1550
01:23:49.869 --> 01:23:53.090
is suddenly all over Instagram, and if you hover over

1551
01:23:53.130 --> 01:23:56.090
the critter for so much as a nanosecond, he will

1552
01:23:56.109 --> 01:23:58.689
be all you will ever see on your feed.

1553
01:23:59.149 --> 01:24:00.880
Oh. Oh, it's okay.

1554
01:24:00.899 --> 01:24:01.960
You're like, I'm fine with that.

1555
01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:03.199
Yeah, yeah.

1556
01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:06.979
So what is the deal with Jimothy? What's the reason

1557
01:24:07.020 --> 01:24:10.460
for his unique appearance, and what's behind his rapid rise

1558
01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:16.020
from contested local pest, or compested local test, to celebrated

1559
01:24:16.100 --> 01:24:21.789
internet pet? Jimothy is said to be a familiar sight

1560
01:24:21.829 --> 01:24:25.550
in the Bellard neighborhood of Seattle, instantly recognizable by his

1561
01:24:25.609 --> 01:24:30.800
unusual short, round shape. Chell is like cheesing. She is

1562
01:24:30.859 --> 01:24:31.880
smiling so big.

1563
01:24:31.899 --> 01:24:35.220
Sorry, I was just looking at him. He was walking around.

1564
01:24:37.199 --> 01:24:42.619
Last week, Seattle resident Kiana Hall saw the raccoon while

1565
01:24:42.699 --> 01:24:45.319
on an evening walk with her husband. She posted a

1566
01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:48.199
video of him scampering across her path on Instagram with

1567
01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:51.140
her exclaiming in the voiceover, What am I looking at?

1568
01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:54.470
Hall gave the creature a name, declaring that she and

1569
01:24:54.510 --> 01:24:58.029
her husband had been graced with the presence of Jimothy.

1570
01:24:58.640 --> 01:25:00.659
for their 13th anniversary.

1571
01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:01.720
Aw.

1572
01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:05.159
Quote, He looked like a Jimothy to me, Hall later

1573
01:25:05.229 --> 01:25:09.050
told Today. I don't have any other explanation. The raccoon's

1574
01:25:09.149 --> 01:25:13.470
unique shape generated instant intrigue and conversation, leading Instagram to

1575
01:25:13.510 --> 01:25:16.750
push the video and send it viral. According to Know

1576
01:25:16.770 --> 01:25:21.789
Your Meme, Hall's video gained nearly 400,000 likes in six days.

1577
01:25:22.989 --> 01:25:25.229
At the time of writing, it has been viewed nearly

1578
01:25:25.229 --> 01:25:27.250
8 million times.

1579
01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:28.520
Wow.

1580
01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:33.140
So you are very happy that you've gotten to look

1581
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:34.079
at more Jimothy, huh?

1582
01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:38.180
Yeah. Cause I didn't know what he was. I mean,

1583
01:25:38.220 --> 01:25:40.890
I knew he was a raccoon, but that's all I knew.

1584
01:25:42.569 --> 01:25:44.949
See, it figures this had to happen this late in

1585
01:25:44.989 --> 01:25:46.829
the year. Cause I would have gotten you Jimothy merch

1586
01:25:46.869 --> 01:25:50.609
for your birthday. Cause like, cause you're hard to buy for,

1587
01:25:50.670 --> 01:25:52.590
but I could have got, there's so much Jimothy merch.

1588
01:25:52.630 --> 01:25:56.439
There's no shortage of Jimothy shirts and stickers and buttons

1589
01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:57.069
and mugs.

1590
01:25:57.939 --> 01:25:58.430
Wow.

1591
01:26:00.090 --> 01:26:03.289
So, Oh, a side note from, since my car is

1592
01:26:03.310 --> 01:26:04.609
going to be here soon, I went ahead and ordered

1593
01:26:04.649 --> 01:26:09.750
a brand new Klingon Empire Star Trek sticker for my window.

1594
01:26:10.310 --> 01:26:12.250
Cause I had a window. I've had a Klingon window

1595
01:26:12.289 --> 01:26:14.189
decal on all three. Now it'll be all three of

1596
01:26:14.229 --> 01:26:17.039
the cars I've owned. Yay. And I bought a Bajoran

1597
01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:18.859
one too. Cause I was feeling really nerdy and I

1598
01:26:18.899 --> 01:26:21.020
want to put that on the other side. So people

1599
01:26:21.039 --> 01:26:22.520
can be like, what's that? And I'll be like, you

1600
01:26:22.539 --> 01:26:24.760
wouldn't understand. You're not a friend of the prophets.

1601
01:26:25.579 --> 01:26:25.979
Yeah. Yeah.

1602
01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:29.060
Back to things that people want to hear about. What

1603
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:32.710
may set Jimothy apart in the Internet's archive of furry

1604
01:26:32.770 --> 01:26:36.369
favorites is the speed and scale of his ascent. Two

1605
01:26:36.409 --> 01:26:38.529
weeks ago, he didn't have a name, nor did he

1606
01:26:38.569 --> 01:26:42.170
have a reputation beyond the bins of an area of Seattle.

1607
01:26:42.829 --> 01:26:45.729
Now his viral fame has made him a hometown hero,

1608
01:26:45.789 --> 01:26:49.750
with the Mariners last week encouraging fans in the stadium to, quote,

1609
01:26:50.130 --> 01:26:54.899
make noise for Jimothy. A mural of the raccoon has

1610
01:26:54.960 --> 01:27:00.260
already been painted in his neighborhood depicting him hiding behind

1611
01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:03.600
a bin at a pottery studio. While a painting of

1612
01:27:03.659 --> 01:27:07.659
Jimothy raised $ 6, 500 for a local food bank at auction.

1613
01:27:08.260 --> 01:27:08.619
Wow.

1614
01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:13.029
On Sunday, city council member Alexis Mercedes-Rink will issue an, quote,

1615
01:27:13.250 --> 01:27:18.569
official city proclamation celebrating the, quote, majestic raccoon and declaring

1616
01:27:18.630 --> 01:27:19.369
summer 2026 Jimothy Summer.

1617
01:27:22.250 --> 01:27:22.909
Wow.

1618
01:27:23.090 --> 01:27:26.529
Which sounds like a host of a game show. Yes,

1619
01:27:26.689 --> 01:27:29.829
it does. I'm Jimothy Summer, and welcome back to Guess

1620
01:27:29.890 --> 01:27:36.079
That Number, the game show that has no strategy whatsoever. Anyway,

1621
01:27:36.319 --> 01:27:42.640
Jimothy Summer. Online, Jimothy has a dedicated fandom Reddit. Drawing

1622
01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:45.949
tens of thousands of weekly visitors, he has been commemorated

1623
01:27:46.010 --> 01:27:50.289
in fan art, endless memes, gaming tributes, including his own

1624
01:27:50.310 --> 01:27:56.029
8-bit video game. A custom Lego build and, unbelievably, at

1625
01:27:56.090 --> 01:27:58.289
least two tattoos.

1626
01:27:59.329 --> 01:27:59.949
Wow.

1627
01:28:01.010 --> 01:28:05.100
On Monday, Jimothy was featured on The Daily Show. Oh,

1628
01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:09.579
I guess that's still a relevant thing. The same day,

1629
01:28:09.659 --> 01:28:13.100
he was invoked from space with NASA posting an Instagram

1630
01:28:13.119 --> 01:28:16.479
picture of Seattle taken from the International Space Station that

1631
01:28:16.500 --> 01:28:20.590
highlighted the home of the iconic raccoon. And with a quote,

1632
01:28:20.770 --> 01:28:22.149
Jimothy runs this city.

1633
01:28:23.159 --> 01:28:23.699
Wow.

1634
01:28:25.220 --> 01:28:28.300
You know, it's a, it's amazing how much people will

1635
01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:32.319
grab onto some damn fun and good. Like we all

1636
01:28:32.340 --> 01:28:34.970
need some fun. Like in my area, it was so

1637
01:28:35.029 --> 01:28:37.170
long ago. Now I'm having trouble remembering the name, but

1638
01:28:37.210 --> 01:28:39.829
like two years ago, three years ago, a local township

1639
01:28:39.869 --> 01:28:44.140
near uh this woman had a 10 foot or seven

1640
01:28:44.180 --> 01:28:48.029
foot uh werewolf on her lawn and she would decorate

1641
01:28:48.050 --> 01:28:49.930
it for every time of year it didn't go quite

1642
01:28:49.989 --> 01:28:52.289
as viral as this but it did go viral but

1643
01:28:52.489 --> 01:28:54.149
uh but they told her she had to take it

1644
01:28:54.189 --> 01:28:58.579
down the internet went crazy, like, like attacking the township

1645
01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:01.189
and saying like, leave that werewolf alone. And then they

1646
01:29:01.199 --> 01:29:03.770
started selling t-shirts to raise money for legal defense. If

1647
01:29:03.810 --> 01:29:06.050
they made them take it down and stuff. I love

1648
01:29:06.090 --> 01:29:07.869
that stuff. I love when the internet does things like,

1649
01:29:07.890 --> 01:29:10.909
you know, helps, uh, like a lady bus driver who,

1650
01:29:10.989 --> 01:29:13.449
or a bus attendant who was being picked on. They,

1651
01:29:13.510 --> 01:29:14.090
did you remember that?

1652
01:29:15.689 --> 01:29:16.109
I don't know.

1653
01:29:16.229 --> 01:29:19.100
This was maybe seven years ago. I don't know. There

1654
01:29:19.109 --> 01:29:21.659
was this woman, uh, she was a bus attendant, which

1655
01:29:21.720 --> 01:29:23.260
is just like not a driver, but they sit on

1656
01:29:23.279 --> 01:29:26.310
the bus and watch after the kids. this video went

1657
01:29:26.569 --> 01:29:30.439
viral of this teenager insulting her. Like, like it was

1658
01:29:30.539 --> 01:29:32.819
really cruel. He was just calling her like ugly and

1659
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:34.800
fat and saying like, why can't you get a real job?

1660
01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:36.500
Why are you here? And it's like, this lady's like

1661
01:29:36.579 --> 01:29:39.619
in her late sixties or early seventies. He's just like,

1662
01:29:39.649 --> 01:29:41.109
why don't you have a real job? Are you poor?

1663
01:29:41.189 --> 01:29:43.470
Are you on welfare? Are you like all this stuff?

1664
01:29:43.869 --> 01:29:46.930
She starts crying. And at first she just says like,

1665
01:29:46.989 --> 01:29:48.670
you know, she's just trying to brush him off. Like, Oh, I,

1666
01:29:48.710 --> 01:29:52.399
you know, blah, blah, blah. She starts crying. The, so

1667
01:29:52.420 --> 01:29:54.899
the video starts going viral and somebody who knew her,

1668
01:29:56.170 --> 01:29:58.930
was like, Oh my God, I know her. She, her

1669
01:29:58.970 --> 01:30:01.489
husband died like four years ago and she works as

1670
01:30:01.529 --> 01:30:03.770
a bus monitor just to make ends meet because he

1671
01:30:03.829 --> 01:30:06.239
can't work here. You know, he's, he was still working.

1672
01:30:07.359 --> 01:30:10.340
And then they were like, let's put together a, uh,

1673
01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:14.140
go fund me to send her on a vacation. So

1674
01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:16.899
they said like, let's raise $ 6, 500 center on vacation. They

1675
01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:19.420
raised like a quarter of a million dollars. So she

1676
01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:20.380
retired instead.

1677
01:30:20.979 --> 01:30:22.760
Oh, good, good. I thought you were going to say, well,

1678
01:30:22.779 --> 01:30:24.750
then they kept the money, but they gave her the $ 6, 500.

1679
01:30:24.670 --> 01:30:29.529
They kept the difference, only fair. Yeah, yeah. But no, so,

1680
01:30:29.590 --> 01:30:31.329
I mean, that's, I love when the internet does stuff

1681
01:30:31.350 --> 01:30:35.050
like that. Online, oh, I read that part. Oh, here

1682
01:30:35.069 --> 01:30:37.819
we go. Naturally, the merchandising machine is leapt to cash

1683
01:30:37.880 --> 01:30:41.619
in on Jimothy's viral fame. The online marketplace Etsy already

1684
01:30:41.640 --> 01:30:43.659
has more than 1,000 listings.

1685
01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:44.479
Wow.

1686
01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:48.359
Related to the raccoon, including stickers, clothing, and tote bags.

1687
01:30:49.340 --> 01:30:52.939
Many items championed Jimothy as a struggling iconoclast with faux

1688
01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:57.319
inspirational mottos such as stay weird, doing my best, and

1689
01:30:57.399 --> 01:31:01.829
protect at all costs. Also, hot Jimothy summer is also

1690
01:31:01.869 --> 01:31:07.189
catching on. Little is known about Jimothy's life pre-fame, but

1691
01:31:07.229 --> 01:31:11.750
last week another Seattle resident identified as Ben Trammell appears

1692
01:31:11.810 --> 01:31:18.939
to be baby Jimothy with his family. Wait, what? He

1693
01:31:18.979 --> 01:31:22.140
posted a video of what appears to be a little confusing.

1694
01:31:22.859 --> 01:31:25.319
Tramiel claimed Jimothy was born in a group of cedar

1695
01:31:25.380 --> 01:31:28.659
trees in a neighborhood's backyard or neighbor's backyard. And he

1696
01:31:28.699 --> 01:31:31.810
saw him almost daily for months. Quote, he was so

1697
01:31:31.890 --> 01:31:34.250
small and clumsy, but his mother and siblings were always

1698
01:31:34.310 --> 01:31:38.090
so patient and caring, keeping him from falling and sometimes

1699
01:31:38.149 --> 01:31:43.729
just carrying him. Jimothy's reported stable early life will no

1700
01:31:43.770 --> 01:31:46.760
doubt be helping him to navigate his sudden global celebrity life.

1701
01:31:47.140 --> 01:31:50.680
as well as the crushing silence when the internet moves on. Harsh.

1702
01:31:51.300 --> 01:31:53.939
Hot Jimothy Summer will inevitably be remembered for about as

1703
01:31:53.979 --> 01:31:58.000
long as Hot Rat Summer last year. Also, interestingly enough,

1704
01:31:58.119 --> 01:32:01.460
born out of Seattle. That kind of makes sense, though,

1705
01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:05.039
because people are like, Seattle's so weird and fun, it's

1706
01:32:05.100 --> 01:32:07.859
actually kind of boring. That same year, the city also

1707
01:32:07.899 --> 01:32:10.720
tried to make Humpy the Salmon happen. That I don't remember.

1708
01:32:10.739 --> 01:32:16.199
I don't know what that is. Why are they doing

1709
01:32:16.399 --> 01:32:19.479
animal things there? We don't do animal things here.

1710
01:32:19.500 --> 01:32:23.159
It's because you guys got Trank. You have your thing.

1711
01:32:23.479 --> 01:32:25.180
Oh, right. I forgot. Yeah.

1712
01:32:25.220 --> 01:32:28.149
They have their thing, which is to come up with

1713
01:32:28.199 --> 01:32:29.170
something desperately.

1714
01:32:29.810 --> 01:32:32.109
But it's really nice in our thing. It's like, yay,

1715
01:32:32.170 --> 01:32:33.109
everyone's dying.

1716
01:32:33.130 --> 01:32:38.149
That's the difference between Philly and Seattle, man. That's the difference.

1717
01:32:38.569 --> 01:32:39.430
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1718
01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:41.979
That's like, that's like saying like, oh, okay. So Oklahoma

1719
01:32:42.039 --> 01:32:44.960
city's thing is like, you know, a warm bowl of

1720
01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:46.899
soup and New York city's thing is a punch in

1721
01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:50.189
the jaw. It's like, yeah, of course it is. That's

1722
01:32:50.229 --> 01:32:50.689
the difference.

1723
01:32:51.729 --> 01:32:53.970
I don't know if that's really Oklahoma city's thing.

1724
01:32:55.869 --> 01:33:02.390
Uh, yeah. Moving on. Jim, Jimothy might be the city's latest,

1725
01:33:02.489 --> 01:33:06.659
biggest export, but his breakneck rise and commodification speaks loudest

1726
01:33:06.680 --> 01:33:10.710
to the online economies of attention and and audiences' desperate

1727
01:33:10.750 --> 01:33:14.430
desire for anything even the slightest bit positive to brighten

1728
01:33:14.449 --> 01:33:17.930
their timelines. I think that sounds a little too negative

1729
01:33:17.949 --> 01:33:18.829
in my opinion, honestly.

1730
01:33:19.409 --> 01:33:20.510
It sounds really negative.

1731
01:33:20.529 --> 01:33:24.539
So it's bad that people are happy to see something positive? Like,

1732
01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:27.380
give me a break. No, people just like positive things.

1733
01:33:28.079 --> 01:33:30.699
Like back when Upworthy was a website that posted positive

1734
01:33:30.739 --> 01:33:32.979
things before it became the opposite of that for no

1735
01:33:33.039 --> 01:33:36.100
apparent reason. Except to make money, I'm sure. Yeah.

1736
01:33:36.140 --> 01:33:36.319
Yeah.

1737
01:33:36.909 --> 01:33:38.649
Sorry, I'm mad because I used to love Upworthy, and

1738
01:33:38.670 --> 01:33:40.609
then one day all they posted was like, these people

1739
01:33:40.649 --> 01:33:42.350
are all going to die if you don't do something.

1740
01:33:42.390 --> 01:33:44.229
And I was like, this is not what Upworthy was

1741
01:33:44.260 --> 01:33:48.819
supposed to be, though. Anyway. Quote, Jimothy has come to

1742
01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:52.140
us at a time where everybody needs something to rally around,

1743
01:33:52.180 --> 01:33:54.560
said the owner of the Ballard Pottery Studio that had

1744
01:33:54.640 --> 01:33:57.539
the mural painted. The official advice on Jimothy from the

1745
01:33:57.579 --> 01:34:00.720
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, meanwhile, has been to, quote,

1746
01:34:01.140 --> 01:34:05.779
leave him alone. And I want to point out something.

1747
01:34:07.069 --> 01:34:11.909
Reason magazine, the libertarian think tank magazine place. They did

1748
01:34:11.949 --> 01:34:14.319
a whole piece about Jimothy talking about how great he

1749
01:34:14.359 --> 01:34:17.000
was and how we could all learn a lesson. We

1750
01:34:17.020 --> 01:34:20.079
could all take the advice of leave him alone. Like

1751
01:34:20.260 --> 01:34:24.279
just leave everyone alone. Let's just leave everybody alone. Okay.

1752
01:34:24.300 --> 01:34:26.350
What were you smiling about? Were you looking at more

1753
01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:27.060
pictures of Jimothy?

1754
01:34:27.489 --> 01:34:29.930
I was looking at him walking up some stairs. He's

1755
01:34:29.970 --> 01:34:31.270
got really big legs.

1756
01:34:31.449 --> 01:34:35.369
Yeah. They're so cool. Yeah. Well, I'm happy that Michelle

1757
01:34:35.409 --> 01:34:38.149
is happy. So. We're going to take a break, and

1758
01:34:38.170 --> 01:34:41.270
when we come back, we're going to talk about the

1759
01:34:41.310 --> 01:34:48.220
man who's circumnavigating the Arctic Ocean by himself. Wow. Right

1760
01:34:48.279 --> 01:35:01.039
after this. Chell? Yeah? We're heading to your good buddy,

1761
01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:07.880
your favorite place, your home away from home, NPR. Wow. Yeah. NPR.org

1762
01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:11.239
has this headline. But before I get to this, Chelle,

1763
01:35:11.279 --> 01:35:13.859
you always talk about how much you like to be alone, right?

1764
01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:17.539
That's your cope, right? That's what you claim is that

1765
01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:21.119
it's like it's an on-purpose thing. But you do. You

1766
01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:24.319
value your alone time, though. I do. You value recharging

1767
01:35:24.340 --> 01:35:25.239
your battery.

1768
01:35:26.479 --> 01:35:27.319
Yeah.

1769
01:35:27.619 --> 01:35:30.100
A lot of people assume because I am very outgoing

1770
01:35:30.119 --> 01:35:32.050
and stuff that I don't have a battery that needs

1771
01:35:32.090 --> 01:35:37.869
to be recharged. Which is really interesting because When I hear,

1772
01:35:38.090 --> 01:35:40.369
I've always believed that there's no real such thing as

1773
01:35:40.409 --> 01:35:43.270
an extrovert and an introvert. Everybody is a combo of them.

1774
01:35:43.340 --> 01:35:46.159
It's just, you know, what combo you are is the question.

1775
01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:49.420
But like, I always hear people say like, oh, well,

1776
01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:53.319
you know, extroverts, their batteries get charged by being around people.

1777
01:35:54.760 --> 01:35:58.479
And sure, but like you can't hang, no person can

1778
01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:00.939
hang around people for like six hours straight being like

1779
01:36:01.100 --> 01:36:04.159
intensely engaged the whole time and not be tired and

1780
01:36:04.220 --> 01:36:08.250
not like want to chill out for a minute. Yeah. Like, yeah.

1781
01:36:08.850 --> 01:36:10.989
You know, unless you have like a problem, like a

1782
01:36:11.329 --> 01:36:17.510
serious problem, but, uh, emotional problem or something. Um, but like, yeah. Uh,

1783
01:36:17.569 --> 01:36:20.199
so that being said, you know, with you enjoying your

1784
01:36:20.220 --> 01:36:27.520
alone time, would you circumnavigate the Arctic ocean by yourself? Okay.

1785
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:34.739
So no. Oh, um, because I've seen people try to

1786
01:36:34.810 --> 01:36:39.409
do things in, the Arctic and then they die in

1787
01:36:40.350 --> 01:36:41.130
boat things.

1788
01:36:41.649 --> 01:36:43.430
You saw this, like, were you just like there? You

1789
01:36:43.550 --> 01:36:45.229
were just like, yeah, I was just there.

1790
01:36:45.369 --> 01:36:47.210
And I was like, I don't know why I'm here,

1791
01:36:47.289 --> 01:36:49.689
but I, I'm not staying to watch you die, but

1792
01:36:49.710 --> 01:36:52.409
you're dying in front of me anyway. Yeah.

1793
01:36:53.289 --> 01:36:54.090
That's too bad.

1794
01:36:54.569 --> 01:36:56.729
I kind of like, I kind of want to, cause

1795
01:36:56.750 --> 01:37:00.529
it would be fun, but I feel like I die. So,

1796
01:37:00.869 --> 01:37:03.270
and I also like watch, I, I know what like

1797
01:37:03.310 --> 01:37:06.239
the ice flows look like and stuff, And I'm not

1798
01:37:06.260 --> 01:37:09.319
going to survive an ice pack coming up against my ship.

1799
01:37:10.279 --> 01:37:12.590
I mean, you would if you started cold plunging with me.

1800
01:37:12.859 --> 01:37:14.270
You know, we could do them at the same time

1801
01:37:14.279 --> 01:37:16.630
via FaceTime. That way you could get yourself cold adapted.

1802
01:37:17.449 --> 01:37:19.930
No, because the ice pack is going to hit into

1803
01:37:19.949 --> 01:37:22.590
my ship and it's going to break the hull. And

1804
01:37:22.630 --> 01:37:24.369
then my ship's going to sink and I'm going to

1805
01:37:24.409 --> 01:37:27.930
get hypothermia. Even if I'm okay for the first three

1806
01:37:27.949 --> 01:37:30.670
to seven minutes. I'm not going to make it.

1807
01:37:32.109 --> 01:37:34.590
Okay. I guess I see your point. What if, what if,

1808
01:37:34.810 --> 01:37:37.130
what if your second mate was Jimothy with a little

1809
01:37:37.170 --> 01:37:37.729
hat though?

1810
01:37:40.409 --> 01:37:42.229
Like, I don't want to do that to him.

1811
01:37:43.449 --> 01:37:45.939
You don't want him to have the experience of being

1812
01:37:45.979 --> 01:37:48.500
your second in command and being trusted to run a boat.

1813
01:37:49.180 --> 01:37:51.479
You don't want to give him the confidence, the self confidence.

1814
01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:53.100
And get hypothermia and die?

1815
01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:54.659
No. That's in there too.

1816
01:37:55.239 --> 01:37:58.699
No, he can, he can have confidence hanging out in

1817
01:37:58.739 --> 01:38:01.970
his hometown. Yeah. Like he doesn't need to die in

1818
01:38:02.010 --> 01:38:07.289
the Arctic with me crying all over him while we die.

1819
01:38:07.310 --> 01:38:09.899
All right.

1820
01:38:09.939 --> 01:38:12.680
You've thought about this a lot. So we'll just move.

1821
01:38:12.880 --> 01:38:17.979
We'll just move on. Okay. NPR.org headline reads, meet the

1822
01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:26.670
man circumnavigating the Arctic ocean alone. When sailing alone, even

1823
01:38:26.829 --> 01:38:30.819
sleep is dangerous. I've actually seen, people have you ever

1824
01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:33.960
watched there are youtubers i've watched who sail alone like

1825
01:38:34.020 --> 01:38:36.119
on the ocean they're just like on the ocean alone

1826
01:38:36.939 --> 01:38:38.939
they sleep for three hours at a time and they

1827
01:38:38.979 --> 01:38:40.939
literally just tie a rope to the wheel and go

1828
01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:42.739
that's autopilot and they go to bed.

1829
01:38:44.380 --> 01:38:49.569
Yeah i don't like that I know, like, when you're on, like,

1830
01:38:49.609 --> 01:38:52.729
a crab boat and you're crab fishing, like, you normally

1831
01:38:52.770 --> 01:38:54.710
go to sleep and you ask someone else to, like,

1832
01:38:54.770 --> 01:38:57.619
watch the wheels so you guys don't die. Maybe.

1833
01:38:59.180 --> 01:39:08.930
I don't know. Matt Rutherford knows this all too well

1834
01:39:08.989 --> 01:39:11.529
as he travels the Arctic far from his home point

1835
01:39:11.569 --> 01:39:16.619
of Annapolis, Maryland. The moments Rutherford does get to rest

1836
01:39:16.800 --> 01:39:20.770
are very precious. Quote, it just becomes extremely difficult to

1837
01:39:20.810 --> 01:39:23.109
get any sleep because if you hit the ice, you

1838
01:39:23.250 --> 01:39:24.890
essentially die, he said.

1839
01:39:24.909 --> 01:39:28.810
Like I said, exactly.

1840
01:39:29.810 --> 01:39:33.729
Rutherford is attempting a maritime first to circumnavigate the Arctic

1841
01:39:33.899 --> 01:39:40.029
Ocean completely alone, some 10,000 nautical miles in total. The

1842
01:39:40.050 --> 01:39:43.909
45-year-old veteran sailor's journey takes him across the North Atlantic

1843
01:39:44.010 --> 01:39:47.529
along the Russian Arctic coast and eventually through the passage

1844
01:39:47.939 --> 01:39:49.569
of the Northwest Passage in Canada.

1845
01:39:50.659 --> 01:39:53.340
This is the scary part. I, you know, I'm.

1846
01:39:53.220 --> 01:39:56.500
Glad that he is a sailor already because part of

1847
01:39:56.520 --> 01:39:58.159
me thought this was like a guy who like was

1848
01:39:58.199 --> 01:40:00.680
a hobbyist, which would make it much more impressive, but

1849
01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:01.619
also much scarier.

1850
01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:03.180
Yeah. Yeah.

1851
01:40:04.630 --> 01:40:07.270
Quote, it's also going to get dark soon, he said,

1852
01:40:07.409 --> 01:40:10.890
speaking via Starlink connection from his 42-foot sailboat in the

1853
01:40:10.909 --> 01:40:15.270
Bering Sea. I got 24 hours of daylight now. How

1854
01:40:15.289 --> 01:40:18.609
do you see the ice in the dark? What?

1855
01:40:19.470 --> 01:40:21.430
Oh, I just got really excited because I know where

1856
01:40:21.449 --> 01:40:22.409
the Bering Sea is.

1857
01:40:22.630 --> 01:40:25.850
Oh, well, I'm happy for you. You want to tell

1858
01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:26.489
the rest of the class?

1859
01:40:27.960 --> 01:40:30.560
I don't really know. It's like somewhere over by Alaska

1860
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:31.140
and stuff.

1861
01:40:31.199 --> 01:40:33.090
You're like, I meant I had a concept of it.

1862
01:40:33.149 --> 01:40:36.050
Yeah, I like kind of understand where it is. It's

1863
01:40:36.149 --> 01:40:38.170
like up there and stuff like that.

1864
01:40:38.189 --> 01:40:39.449
I get it. I light up some of it. I'm like,

1865
01:40:39.470 --> 01:40:41.909
I know a thing. Yeah. Yeah, I totally get it.

1866
01:40:42.409 --> 01:40:46.229
Rutherford's boat is armed with some helpful tools. Radar can

1867
01:40:46.270 --> 01:40:49.229
spot the biggest chunks of ice. Thermal binoculars help him

1868
01:40:49.270 --> 01:40:52.180
avoid smaller ones. And he has a little raft if

1869
01:40:52.260 --> 01:40:56.279
things take a turn for the worst. This doesn't sound

1870
01:40:56.319 --> 01:40:56.720
so bad.

1871
01:40:57.369 --> 01:40:58.250
Yeah, little raft.

1872
01:40:58.289 --> 01:40:59.170
You got all these tools.

1873
01:40:59.689 --> 01:41:00.069
Mm-hmm.

1874
01:41:00.409 --> 01:41:02.289
Well, and he's got Starlink internet, so you can still

1875
01:41:02.350 --> 01:41:04.869
watch your animes. Like, you wouldn't miss any of them.

1876
01:41:04.949 --> 01:41:06.289
You might have to wait for them to download, but

1877
01:41:06.329 --> 01:41:06.689
that's it.

1878
01:41:08.029 --> 01:41:08.930
I mean, honestly..

1879
01:41:08.789 --> 01:41:10.029
Now you're like, this sounds so good.

1880
01:41:10.050 --> 01:41:15.479
It really does sound good. But, like, I will die.

1881
01:41:15.500 --> 01:41:15.579
Sure.

1882
01:41:16.720 --> 01:41:21.119
But I also like it because I'm not around other people's, like, germs.

1883
01:41:21.560 --> 01:41:23.699
So I'm not going to get, like, sick from things.

1884
01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:28.649
I can, like, my... hypochondria can, can take a little

1885
01:41:28.670 --> 01:41:30.489
bit of a backseat. I mean, except for the fact

1886
01:41:30.510 --> 01:41:32.369
that I think I'm going to die because I'm going

1887
01:41:32.390 --> 01:41:33.029
to get frostbite.

1888
01:41:33.069 --> 01:41:35.229
But that's not the same thing as hypochondria. Well, you

1889
01:41:35.250 --> 01:41:37.560
have frostbite. I guess that could make fill your, your hypochondria.

1890
01:41:37.569 --> 01:41:39.899
You can get hypochondriac about that. I would guess.

1891
01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:42.180
Yeah. And I, I assume also I could be like, well,

1892
01:41:42.279 --> 01:41:44.319
did I have enough vitamin C? Am I going to

1893
01:41:44.359 --> 01:41:45.239
get scurvy?

1894
01:41:46.260 --> 01:41:48.300
That's, it takes a while to get scurvy though.

1895
01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:52.500
But I watched the terror and they got scurvy. Yeah.

1896
01:41:52.539 --> 01:41:53.399
But they were there a while.

1897
01:41:54.420 --> 01:41:55.880
And then the monsters came.

1898
01:41:55.899 --> 01:41:58.300
Yeah, that's pretty bitchin'.

1899
01:41:58.720 --> 01:41:58.920
Yeah.

1900
01:41:59.140 --> 01:42:03.520
No spoilers. But the clock is ticking. If he takes

1901
01:42:03.579 --> 01:42:06.140
too long on his odyssey and summer turns to fall,

1902
01:42:06.479 --> 01:42:09.979
the pack ice will freeze his boat in, dooming the expedition.

1903
01:42:10.649 --> 01:42:10.770
Yep.

1904
01:42:11.090 --> 01:42:12.590
You know that the Arctic waters are one of the

1905
01:42:12.609 --> 01:42:17.210
reasons Russia just cannot be a powerhouse globally? Because if

1906
01:42:17.229 --> 01:42:20.050
they had all of that sea that they're bordered on,

1907
01:42:20.250 --> 01:42:23.340
if it was not often frozen... They could just have

1908
01:42:23.380 --> 01:42:27.140
the most incredible shipping lanes. But since it is, they struggle.

1909
01:42:27.180 --> 01:42:30.439
And that's why they have to buy leases all over

1910
01:42:30.500 --> 01:42:32.779
the Middle East to get access to places.

1911
01:42:33.390 --> 01:42:34.850
That sucks. Yep.

1912
01:42:34.909 --> 01:42:37.829
It's why America, economically, it was very easy for America

1913
01:42:37.850 --> 01:42:41.909
to grow really fast, was we have really good shores

1914
01:42:41.989 --> 01:42:46.010
for docks. Because you want jagged shores for docks because

1915
01:42:46.029 --> 01:42:48.819
it breaks up the ocean tide. So if you have

1916
01:42:48.840 --> 01:42:51.199
a smooth shore, then the ocean tide just goes right

1917
01:42:51.260 --> 01:42:54.529
up to it. which is Africa, basically. Almost all of

1918
01:42:54.649 --> 01:42:58.029
Africa is smooth, and it makes the tides just vicious

1919
01:42:58.069 --> 01:42:59.850
when you're near the land.

1920
01:43:00.409 --> 01:43:00.770
Damn.

1921
01:43:01.010 --> 01:43:03.029
So that's one of the reasons that economically it's always

1922
01:43:03.060 --> 01:43:05.779
been hard in Africa and always been easy in America

1923
01:43:05.899 --> 01:43:09.920
once the ships started coming there. Interesting. Yeah, I've watched

1924
01:43:09.960 --> 01:43:13.720
a whole video on it. It made me really fascinated. Wow. Yet,

1925
01:43:13.819 --> 01:43:18.449
for all this obvious danger, Rutherford is steadfast. His voyage,

1926
01:43:18.489 --> 01:43:21.850
which began on June 25th on the western coast of Greenland,

1927
01:43:22.149 --> 01:43:25.439
is partly driven by his love of exploration. It's also

1928
01:43:25.479 --> 01:43:28.579
meant as a fundraiser for his climate science nonprofit, the

1929
01:43:29.239 --> 01:43:32.720
Ocean Research Project. Of course it is. It's always about

1930
01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:38.090
money with these people, with these nonprofit people. Normally, quote,

1931
01:43:38.149 --> 01:43:41.350
normally I'm running a research schooner and we're studying glaciers

1932
01:43:41.409 --> 01:43:44.029
in Greenland. And this year, because there's no funding, I'm

1933
01:43:44.060 --> 01:43:47.420
doing a little side trip, he joked. I wonder, I

1934
01:43:47.439 --> 01:43:50.039
bet that I bet like the, his organization is like, man,

1935
01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:53.720
we like Rutherford, but if he dies, it would be

1936
01:43:53.960 --> 01:43:58.489
so good for us. Yeah. Everyone would hear about it.

1937
01:43:58.689 --> 01:43:59.609
All the publicity.

1938
01:43:59.630 --> 01:44:05.729
Yeah. Or if he discovers a pygmy raccoon, that would

1939
01:44:05.770 --> 01:44:09.220
be really good. Arctic pygmy raccoon.

1940
01:44:09.560 --> 01:44:11.239
I mean, that would, that would be something.

1941
01:44:11.319 --> 01:44:15.619
Definitely. The federal government has slashed funding for climate science

1942
01:44:15.659 --> 01:44:18.460
over the past two years. With this side trip, Rutherford

1943
01:44:18.500 --> 01:44:21.189
hopes to attract new donors to his Arctic research group.

1944
01:44:21.550 --> 01:44:24.329
The group's vessel needs a new engine, among other repairs.

1945
01:44:24.869 --> 01:44:27.829
Climate change in some ways has made Rutherford's solo voyage

1946
01:44:27.890 --> 01:44:30.850
more attainable. Arctic sea ice has shrunk by about a

1947
01:44:30.909 --> 01:44:33.729
third since the early 1980s, according to figures from the

1948
01:44:33.770 --> 01:44:37.760
National Snow and Ice Data Center. The ice loss is

1949
01:44:37.800 --> 01:44:39.500
not everywhere, he said. I mean, there's still going to

1950
01:44:39.539 --> 01:44:41.600
be some really heavy ice I have to deal with

1951
01:44:41.640 --> 01:44:46.119
down the road that could make or break this trip. Literally.

1952
01:44:47.760 --> 01:44:48.520
Good luck, pal.

1953
01:44:49.960 --> 01:44:50.600
Yay.

1954
01:44:50.800 --> 01:44:55.649
Yep, good luck. So, Chell, what's the thing you would

1955
01:44:55.689 --> 01:45:03.090
love to do alone that requires being alone? Um... Don't

1956
01:45:03.109 --> 01:45:03.609
say dying.

1957
01:45:05.430 --> 01:45:05.640
Oh..

1958
01:45:06.140 --> 01:45:06.560
Damn.

1959
01:45:06.619 --> 01:45:12.180
I mean, that's a good one, though. I don't know. Like,

1960
01:45:12.500 --> 01:45:17.119
go stay in a haunted house alone. Or what about

1961
01:45:17.239 --> 01:45:21.380
just walk up all the pedestrian staircases in Pittsburgh alone?

1962
01:45:21.399 --> 01:45:21.970
Oh.

1963
01:45:22.100 --> 01:45:23.149
Navigate those.

1964
01:45:23.279 --> 01:45:25.829
Wow. That'd be a lot. Yeah.

1965
01:45:25.850 --> 01:45:27.430
I'm going to do it.

1966
01:45:28.029 --> 01:45:29.229
I believe in you.

1967
01:45:29.890 --> 01:45:30.270
Thanks.

1968
01:45:30.510 --> 01:45:33.909
I will put down $ 50 toward your Pittsburgh excursion.

1969
01:45:34.350 --> 01:45:34.909
Thank you.

1970
01:45:37.079 --> 01:45:38.699
And then you could do it to raise money for

1971
01:45:38.720 --> 01:45:41.579
your stair organization. Yeah.

1972
01:45:42.399 --> 01:45:47.130
We make stairs for people who have ranch homes, but

1973
01:45:47.170 --> 01:45:48.930
they really want stairs.

1974
01:45:49.289 --> 01:45:55.069
For exercise. Yeah. You can provide stairs for people who

1975
01:45:55.149 --> 01:45:58.380
used to use ladders before they started doing trank and

1976
01:45:58.399 --> 01:45:59.020
lost their arms.

1977
01:45:59.140 --> 01:46:00.220
And now they need stairs.

1978
01:46:00.239 --> 01:46:01.699
Yeah, because they can't climb ladders.

1979
01:46:02.359 --> 01:46:04.100
But they might have lost their legs.

1980
01:46:05.210 --> 01:46:09.069
We can't help everybody, Michelle. Okay. Let's solve one problem,

1981
01:46:09.109 --> 01:46:13.109
then move to the next one. Then the next one. Okay. Jeez.

1982
01:46:14.289 --> 01:46:15.430
We're going to take a quick break. And when we

1983
01:46:15.470 --> 01:46:18.380
come back, we're going to talk about our topic today,

1984
01:46:18.449 --> 01:46:21.880
which is beavers and bat people. The great moon hoax

1985
01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:35.409
of 1835. Right after this. Yeah. All right, Chell, let's

1986
01:46:35.449 --> 01:46:37.770
find out what beavers and bat people have to do

1987
01:46:37.829 --> 01:46:38.470
with the moon.

1988
01:46:40.470 --> 01:46:42.229
I don't really think anything, but okay.

1989
01:46:42.350 --> 01:46:43.189
You don't want to take a guess?

1990
01:46:44.399 --> 01:46:49.119
Oh, um, they're, they're from the moon. Oh, they, they just, they,

1991
01:46:49.260 --> 01:46:52.899
they do really nice paintings of the moon. Oh, intricate ones.

1992
01:46:53.319 --> 01:46:56.930
Look at you coming up with the facts. Uh, this

1993
01:46:57.010 --> 01:47:03.000
article is from mental floss.com. And it's, uh, This one

1994
01:47:03.039 --> 01:47:05.819
caught my attention very much and made me desperately want

1995
01:47:05.840 --> 01:47:12.279
to know more. Because, you know, hoaxes are divisive, but

1996
01:47:12.319 --> 01:47:15.699
they're interesting, right? You know, why people believe things. There's

1997
01:47:15.779 --> 01:47:19.619
a show called World's Greatest Con, a podcast show that

1998
01:47:19.659 --> 01:47:23.939
I love. And the rallying tagline of the show is,

1999
01:47:24.439 --> 01:47:28.130
we don't fall for scams because we're stupid. We fall

2000
01:47:28.170 --> 01:47:31.770
for scams because we're humans. And I love that because,

2001
01:47:31.869 --> 01:47:34.010
because usually people are good at scamming. People have a

2002
01:47:34.090 --> 01:47:37.439
really good understanding of human nature. You know, they understand

2003
01:47:37.460 --> 01:47:40.699
what people worry about, what people would be happy to have,

2004
01:47:40.800 --> 01:47:43.439
what would make people at ease, you know, and that

2005
01:47:43.520 --> 01:47:48.220
comes from understanding when life's hard. So, but the idea

2006
01:47:48.260 --> 01:47:51.159
of a hoax from 1835 really kind of blows my mind.

2007
01:47:52.539 --> 01:47:53.010
I want to know.

2008
01:47:54.100 --> 01:47:54.350
Yeah.

2009
01:47:55.729 --> 01:47:59.130
So on August 25th, eight, whoa, is that today? Oh,

2010
01:47:59.149 --> 01:48:02.090
that's tomorrow for us. Well, for when we're recording. The

2011
01:48:02.130 --> 01:48:06.390
show was airing on the 31st. On August 25th, 1835,

2012
01:48:06.390 --> 01:48:09.489
readers who stopped in front of the bellowing newsboys and

2013
01:48:09.529 --> 01:48:11.649
produced a penny for a copy of the New York

2014
01:48:11.750 --> 01:48:16.909
Sun newspaper received a lot to take in. Three quarters

2015
01:48:16.949 --> 01:48:19.550
of the front page were devoted to what the newspaper

2016
01:48:19.630 --> 01:48:23.460
claimed was... an excerpt from the credible sounding edinburgh journal

2017
01:48:23.520 --> 01:48:29.329
of science they thought the scots had a science i'm

2018
01:48:29.350 --> 01:48:31.770
gonna leave it that way i almost corrected my sentence

2019
01:48:31.810 --> 01:48:35.109
no they thought the scots had a science that's yeah

2020
01:48:35.130 --> 01:48:38.869
that's the right one In deepest South Africa, a renowned

2021
01:48:38.930 --> 01:48:43.510
astronomer named John Herschel had made a discovery that was fantastic.

2022
01:48:44.189 --> 01:48:47.869
There was life on the moon. A lot of it. Plants.

2023
01:48:48.390 --> 01:48:53.060
Beavers that stood on their hind legs. One-horned goats. And

2024
01:48:53.220 --> 01:48:53.979
bat people.

2025
01:48:55.100 --> 01:48:55.619
Wow.

2026
01:48:56.840 --> 01:49:00.720
What I love about that is beavers that stood on

2027
01:49:00.739 --> 01:49:04.380
their hind legs is not beaver people.

2028
01:49:05.520 --> 01:49:05.810
Yes.

2029
01:49:06.399 --> 01:49:10.710
Because I think bat people literally means people with bat wings, basically.

2030
01:49:10.770 --> 01:49:14.710
I would think so. Fully humanoid, but with wings. So

2031
01:49:15.069 --> 01:49:17.109
it can't be the beavers aren't beaver people because they're

2032
01:49:17.130 --> 01:49:19.710
just beavers that stand like people.

2033
01:49:20.329 --> 01:49:20.529
Yeah.

2034
01:49:20.569 --> 01:49:21.550
But they're not people.

2035
01:49:22.210 --> 01:49:22.430
Yeah.

2036
01:49:24.390 --> 01:49:24.689
Okay.

2037
01:49:25.229 --> 01:49:28.090
Don't beavers sometimes probably stand on their hind legs?

2038
01:49:28.409 --> 01:49:30.329
They did in the cartoon The Angry Beavers.

2039
01:49:31.029 --> 01:49:31.550
They did?

2040
01:49:31.789 --> 01:49:34.250
Yeah. Were you a fan? Yeah, I was. I love

2041
01:49:34.270 --> 01:49:39.020
that show. I think everybody who watched Angry Beavers was like, man,

2042
01:49:39.029 --> 01:49:43.300
I'm definitely the Norbert in my life, but we're all

2043
01:49:43.359 --> 01:49:46.199
the Daggett. We're actually all the Daggett in our lives,

2044
01:49:46.359 --> 01:49:49.279
but we want to believe we're the Norbert. Yeah. We're

2045
01:49:49.300 --> 01:49:49.760
the Daggett.

2046
01:49:50.079 --> 01:49:50.939
All right. Probably.

2047
01:49:52.220 --> 01:49:55.140
Over the next five days, readers were transfixed by a

2048
01:49:55.199 --> 01:50:00.189
breathless account of Herschel's peerless but not peer-reviewed examination of

2049
01:50:00.250 --> 01:50:04.449
the moon's populated surface using a seven-ton telescope that he

2050
01:50:04.470 --> 01:50:08.789
had recently constructed. Sweeping his gaze across the lunar environment,

2051
01:50:08.829 --> 01:50:13.949
Herschel took note of colorful flowers, soul-enriching temples, and humanoids

2052
01:50:14.289 --> 01:50:15.189
who could fly.

2053
01:50:15.220 --> 01:50:17.520
Oh, that's why they're bad people.

2054
01:50:17.560 --> 01:50:20.159
Yeah. And I'm guessing because they didn't have feathers.

2055
01:50:20.859 --> 01:50:21.279
Yeah.

2056
01:50:21.340 --> 01:50:25.600
Because otherwise they'd be bird people. Bird person.

2057
01:50:26.739 --> 01:50:26.939
Yeah.

2058
01:50:27.449 --> 01:50:31.039
While it seemed too spectacular to be true, Herschel was

2059
01:50:31.140 --> 01:50:35.340
a real scientist and a well-respected one. He had previously

2060
01:50:35.399 --> 01:50:38.600
been quoted pondering life on the moon. He was also

2061
01:50:38.699 --> 01:50:43.750
known to be in South Africa. Okay. The Edinburgh Journal

2062
01:50:43.789 --> 01:50:47.529
of Science was legitimate too. Who was anyone to call

2063
01:50:47.569 --> 01:50:51.270
him a liar? I mean, I would have if I

2064
01:50:51.310 --> 01:50:53.590
was alive then. But I probably would have been too

2065
01:50:53.630 --> 01:50:56.869
busy digging coal for like 18 hours a day. Mm-hmm.

2066
01:50:57.029 --> 01:50:59.569
You probably wouldn't even know about it. No. You know? No. Yeah.

2067
01:50:59.890 --> 01:51:06.079
Yeah. Not a chance. Yeah. This, quote, stupendous discovery, as

2068
01:51:06.119 --> 01:51:08.960
the paper dubbed it, was to be celebrated. And if

2069
01:51:09.039 --> 01:51:12.619
discovering life on the moon wasn't enough, Herschel had also, quote,

2070
01:51:12.840 --> 01:51:19.250
solved or corrected nearly every leading problem of mathematical astronomy. Wow. Whoa.

2071
01:51:19.710 --> 01:51:21.149
He's like, he's amazing.

2072
01:51:21.550 --> 01:51:25.390
And this is before we even knew germs existed. Yeah.

2073
01:51:25.489 --> 01:51:27.069
This was back when people would be like, should I

2074
01:51:27.109 --> 01:51:29.130
rinse my hands off before I stick them into your

2075
01:51:29.210 --> 01:51:30.569
open body cavity?

2076
01:51:30.680 --> 01:51:32.060
And everyone's like, why would you do that?

2077
01:51:32.079 --> 01:51:35.319
Yeah, come on, let's get moving. Yeah, don't waste the water.

2078
01:51:35.380 --> 01:51:35.720
Come on.

2079
01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:37.479
It's going to make it slippery.

2080
01:51:37.539 --> 01:51:38.979
Yeah, it's going to make it worse. You don't know

2081
01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:42.960
what would happen if water gets in there. Yeah. The

2082
01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:46.689
reports captivated the city, spreading to other papers and inviting

2083
01:51:46.739 --> 01:51:51.050
discussion over their plausibility. Who were these bipedal beavers and

2084
01:51:51.130 --> 01:51:53.890
moon people? And had they found religion? Yeah.

2085
01:51:55.760 --> 01:51:56.819
Well, they have temples.

2086
01:51:57.020 --> 01:52:04.350
Yeah. Founded by editor Benjamin Day in 1833, The Sun

2087
01:52:04.390 --> 01:52:09.029
was a pioneering newspaper in several ways. Utilizing a steam-powered

2088
01:52:09.090 --> 01:52:11.909
printing press, it could rattle off tens of thousands of

2089
01:52:11.989 --> 01:52:15.439
copies in a relatively short period of time, selling, for

2090
01:52:15.479 --> 01:52:21.239
a penny, it was much cheaper than New York's six-cent alternatives. Wow. Yeah.

2091
01:52:21.659 --> 01:52:23.979
It was also the first paper in history to make

2092
01:52:24.119 --> 01:52:27.560
use of newsboys. who would stand on busy streets barking

2093
01:52:27.619 --> 01:52:31.979
headlines at passerby. At a bargain price, the Sun needed

2094
01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:36.770
to maintain and bolster a circulation of 15,000 readers in

2095
01:52:36.829 --> 01:52:42.770
order to attract advertisers. Wow. What they didn't necessarily need

2096
01:52:43.369 --> 01:52:49.300
was accuracy. Unlike later papers of record and their staunch

2097
01:52:49.340 --> 01:52:55.020
commitments to journalistic integrity, when was this written? What? Thank

2098
01:52:55.039 --> 01:52:58.010
goodness that's not a problem anymore. The Sun and other

2099
01:52:58.090 --> 01:53:01.250
news sources of that era weren't expected to tell the

2100
01:53:01.310 --> 01:53:03.449
truth all of the time.

2101
01:53:03.470 --> 01:53:04.310
Hmm.

2102
01:53:04.829 --> 01:53:10.069
Items could be satirical or factual. Readers might sometimes conflate

2103
01:53:10.130 --> 01:53:15.399
the two. Before radio, newspapers were perceived as the catch-all

2104
01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:19.420
entertainment of the day. While not quite as bombastic as

2105
01:53:19.479 --> 01:53:24.380
the tabloids of the following century, some creative license was expected.

2106
01:53:26.039 --> 01:53:27.659
that sounds like a great way to cope with the

2107
01:53:27.699 --> 01:53:30.899
fact that you were just like lying for money. Yeah.

2108
01:53:31.340 --> 01:53:34.710
I mean, I, that's what, that's what all fiction is,

2109
01:53:34.850 --> 01:53:35.189
isn't it?

2110
01:53:35.729 --> 01:53:38.649
Yeah, but not, but it's not, well, yes and no.

2111
01:53:38.670 --> 01:53:41.489
I mean, you're not lying if you're saying it's, if you're,

2112
01:53:41.609 --> 01:53:44.229
you're presenting it as fiction though. I mean, you're lying

2113
01:53:44.289 --> 01:53:45.550
as in fiction is made up.

2114
01:53:45.689 --> 01:53:49.340
But, but maybe they would say like, well, we never

2115
01:53:49.399 --> 01:53:51.439
said that the stuff in the paper is true.

2116
01:53:51.680 --> 01:53:53.300
That fair point there.

2117
01:53:53.420 --> 01:53:53.659
Yeah.

2118
01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:56.079
Sounds like cope. That was, that was, that was what

2119
01:53:56.140 --> 01:53:59.220
I was getting at was it sounds like cope. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

2120
01:53:59.340 --> 01:54:02.689
I read a book called bad news by Satya Unger

2121
01:54:02.810 --> 01:54:08.210
Sargon or Sargon Unger, Batya Unger Sargon. That's it. I

2122
01:54:08.250 --> 01:54:10.050
read a book by her called bad news and it's

2123
01:54:10.109 --> 01:54:14.529
about how newspapers changed and how the biggest change in

2124
01:54:14.640 --> 01:54:18.960
news was when they started marketing to people who didn't

2125
01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:21.500
have a lot of money. And the sun was one

2126
01:54:21.520 --> 01:54:23.970
of the first. that was like, we'll make our paper

2127
01:54:24.109 --> 01:54:25.729
a penny so that it's like, I think it was

2128
01:54:25.770 --> 01:54:27.569
like the, the judgment was like, it would be half

2129
01:54:27.640 --> 01:54:29.000
the cost of lunch or something.

2130
01:54:29.640 --> 01:54:30.140
Okay.

2131
01:54:30.260 --> 01:54:32.020
Cause they were like, most people will spend half of

2132
01:54:32.060 --> 01:54:34.760
what they spend on lunch on a newspaper if they

2133
01:54:34.779 --> 01:54:37.380
believe they're getting value from it. Cause, and you didn't

2134
01:54:37.399 --> 01:54:39.960
have to have a subscription cause people were barking it everywhere.

2135
01:54:40.520 --> 01:54:42.159
Cause that was the other thing was people were like,

2136
01:54:42.479 --> 01:54:44.329
you'd have to pay six cents a day, but you'd

2137
01:54:44.350 --> 01:54:47.449
have to pay that every week. So they made their

2138
01:54:47.489 --> 01:54:50.609
subscription price about as low as it could get. But

2139
01:54:50.649 --> 01:54:54.260
it's interesting how that like, both bolstered and destroyed journalism

2140
01:54:54.300 --> 01:55:01.270
at the same time. So, yeah, it's an interesting conundrum.

2141
01:55:01.590 --> 01:55:05.770
The media. It was under this hazy climate that the

2142
01:55:05.810 --> 01:55:08.810
paper began to run a startling account of astronomer John

2143
01:55:08.850 --> 01:55:14.439
Herschel's work. His father, William, had discovered Uranus in 1781.

2144
01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:18.979
On August 21st, The Sun printed what was essentially a teaser,

2145
01:55:19.340 --> 01:55:23.409
promising readers a glimpse of, quote, astronomical discoveries of the

2146
01:55:23.449 --> 01:55:28.090
most wonderful description. Four days later, the first six parts appeared,

2147
01:55:28.470 --> 01:55:31.329
most of it devoted to a detailed explanation of how

2148
01:55:31.609 --> 01:55:39.039
Herschel had been able to bear witness to such marvels. Well,

2149
01:55:39.060 --> 01:55:41.020
we're going to take a break and dig even deeper

2150
01:55:41.039 --> 01:55:44.520
because I am really excited to find out where this

2151
01:55:44.600 --> 01:55:56.039
is going. Right after this. All right. Let's find out

2152
01:55:56.100 --> 01:55:59.939
about these bat people. All right. I need to know.

2153
01:56:01.260 --> 01:56:05.399
Owing to a quote hydro oxygen microscope. That almost sounds real.

2154
01:56:06.279 --> 01:56:08.279
After what we were hearing about other microscopes as a

2155
01:56:09.460 --> 01:56:13.550
element added, uh, to a gigantic telescope lens, Herschel was

2156
01:56:13.630 --> 01:56:17.670
able to illuminate a view from great distances. The 24

2157
01:56:17.670 --> 01:56:22.229
foot optical device was forged by expert glassmakers with the

2158
01:56:22.270 --> 01:56:26.590
power of 42,000 X magnification. The report explained he had

2159
01:56:26.630 --> 01:56:29.689
hoped to observe possible insect life on the moon from

2160
01:56:29.729 --> 01:56:34.229
his work base, 35 miles from Cape town, Africa. That,

2161
01:56:34.710 --> 01:56:37.710
that is cocky. I want to look at the insects

2162
01:56:37.789 --> 01:56:42.930
on the moon with my super scope. That's another interesting

2163
01:56:42.949 --> 01:56:46.210
thing about world history, by the way. People who found

2164
01:56:46.270 --> 01:56:49.850
the most pure silica to make the best glass ended

2165
01:56:49.909 --> 01:56:56.010
up winning wars and stuff. Glasses became incredibly important by

2166
01:56:56.029 --> 01:56:58.649
the 1900s for everything. And if you think about it,

2167
01:56:58.670 --> 01:57:00.260
it's like if you had the best silica, you had

2168
01:57:00.380 --> 01:57:05.119
the best glasses, the best telescopes, the best binoculars, everything.

2169
01:57:05.800 --> 01:57:06.720
Yeah, I guess that's true.

2170
01:57:07.020 --> 01:57:10.119
And America has the highest quality silica in the world

2171
01:57:10.359 --> 01:57:11.180
in North Carolina. I don't know.

2172
01:57:11.970 --> 01:57:12.250
Wow.

2173
01:57:12.550 --> 01:57:18.069
Yeah. Anyway, as the series unfolded, it was clear he

2174
01:57:18.090 --> 01:57:22.270
had far exceeded those expectations. Astonished readers discovered on day

2175
01:57:22.329 --> 01:57:25.069
two of the series that after training his telescope on

2176
01:57:25.090 --> 01:57:27.949
the moon, Herschel had caught sight of a dark red

2177
01:57:28.069 --> 01:57:40.140
flower sprouting from basaltic rock. I don't know that word. Basaltic?

2178
01:57:40.640 --> 01:57:41.260
It might be basaltic.

2179
01:57:41.279 --> 01:57:41.560
Yeah, maybe.

2180
01:57:42.159 --> 01:57:47.350
As well as water and trees. Animals similar to bison

2181
01:57:47.430 --> 01:57:51.609
roamed the grounds. A bluish single-horned goat trotted in full

2182
01:57:51.670 --> 01:57:54.909
view of the scope. On day three, Andrew Grant, the

2183
01:57:54.949 --> 01:57:58.430
purported author of the articles and a declared associate of Herschel's,

2184
01:57:58.750 --> 01:58:03.869
described their most wonderful or wondrous finding yet. Quote, a

2185
01:58:03.949 --> 01:58:08.350
biped beaver. The last resembles the beaver of the earth

2186
01:58:08.369 --> 01:58:12.359
in every other relationship. than in its destitution of a

2187
01:58:12.439 --> 01:58:17.520
tail and its invariable habit of walking upon only two feet.

2188
01:58:18.199 --> 01:58:20.810
It carries its young in its arms like a human

2189
01:58:20.869 --> 01:58:24.369
being and moves with an easy gliding motion.

2190
01:58:25.090 --> 01:58:25.550
Wow.

2191
01:58:26.909 --> 01:58:28.590
Yeah. What do you say to that?

2192
01:58:30.800 --> 01:58:31.880
I guess that's fine.

2193
01:58:33.739 --> 01:58:38.199
I'm glad you think so. You may. I laughed at it.

2194
01:58:38.239 --> 01:58:41.020
Put a tiny bit of my ginger tea into my sinuses,

2195
01:58:41.060 --> 01:58:50.750
which feels awesome. We broke me for a second. No,

2196
01:58:50.789 --> 01:58:53.649
the next line is also the worst thing on the

2197
01:58:53.689 --> 01:58:57.630
show after doing it for a few years. Is when

2198
01:58:57.649 --> 01:59:00.710
I'm laughing about something, like sincerely just losing it for

2199
01:59:00.729 --> 01:59:02.590
a second. And then I go back and the first

2200
01:59:02.649 --> 01:59:06.180
sentence is either absurd or just comes across as absurd

2201
01:59:06.229 --> 01:59:10.239
out of context. Then I can't stop laughing at all. Yeah.

2202
01:59:10.699 --> 01:59:15.279
Here's why I broke just now, Chell. These sophisticated beavers,

2203
01:59:15.699 --> 01:59:21.289
Grant reported. That's what killed me. had built huts more impressive, quote,

2204
01:59:21.409 --> 01:59:25.189
than those of many tribes of human savages. Finally! We

2205
01:59:25.689 --> 01:59:28.689
got some racism in there, finally! How long was it

2206
01:59:28.710 --> 01:59:29.289
gonna take?

2207
01:59:29.310 --> 01:59:31.029
Jeez, dude.

2208
01:59:31.050 --> 01:59:35.189
I mean, at least he called them human. I guess

2209
01:59:35.229 --> 01:59:39.840
that's a step in the right direction. I wonder if

2210
01:59:39.859 --> 01:59:42.979
he'll start describing, like, a slave colony on the moon. Like,

2211
01:59:43.840 --> 01:59:47.279
with smoke emanating from their tops, they had apparently mastered

2212
01:59:47.710 --> 01:59:51.590
the concept of fire. Toasty beaver homes would be hard

2213
01:59:51.630 --> 01:59:54.569
to top, but Grant had more up his sleeve. On

2214
01:59:54.590 --> 01:59:57.760
day four, readers learned the men had witnessed, quote, large

2215
01:59:57.850 --> 02:00:02.279
winged creatures that were, quote, certainly like human beings and, quote,

2216
02:00:02.680 --> 02:00:07.300
engaged in conversation. The discovery predated the Weekly World News'

2217
02:00:07.439 --> 02:00:12.420
reveal of Batboy by well over a century. That's a pretty...

2218
02:00:11.600 --> 02:00:13.180
I was going to make that joke, but they put

2219
02:00:13.199 --> 02:00:13.579
it in there.

2220
02:00:15.000 --> 02:00:15.380
Yeah.

2221
02:00:15.939 --> 02:00:19.590
Day five brought a description of a temple-like construct that

2222
02:00:19.670 --> 02:00:22.590
may have indicated these creatures were prone to worship an

2223
02:00:22.750 --> 02:00:23.649
unknown religion.

2224
02:00:26.609 --> 02:00:30.590
Making too many assumptions. We don't know anything about these things.

2225
02:00:30.869 --> 02:00:32.930
That could be like their grocery store.

2226
02:00:33.069 --> 02:00:37.310
Oh, I was going to say they're probably just Greek Orthodox. Oh, okay.

2227
02:00:37.399 --> 02:00:39.859
That's my guess. But no, it could be a grocery store.

2228
02:00:39.880 --> 02:00:41.720
It could be a movieplex.

2229
02:00:42.579 --> 02:00:43.619
Yeah, could be anything.

2230
02:00:43.640 --> 02:00:46.939
Yeah, could be a Nickelodeon. Those were a thing back then,

2231
02:00:47.119 --> 02:00:48.729
I guess, on the moon as well as on Earth.

2232
02:00:48.770 --> 02:00:49.430
Yeah.

2233
02:00:52.189 --> 02:00:54.689
Day six brought mention of a larger variety of the

2234
02:00:54.750 --> 02:00:58.569
bat people who ate fruit in a rather uncouth manner.

2235
02:00:58.590 --> 02:01:03.670
Fuck you, dude. Well, that just means they eat fruit

2236
02:01:03.729 --> 02:01:07.069
like bats eat fruit. Because, you know, they're funny how

2237
02:01:07.100 --> 02:01:07.420
they eat.

2238
02:01:08.760 --> 02:01:09.119
I guess.

2239
02:01:09.159 --> 02:01:11.920
You ever watch a bat eat? The ones that eat

2240
02:01:11.939 --> 02:01:12.779
fruit and bugs?

2241
02:01:13.560 --> 02:01:14.079
Yeah.

2242
02:01:14.140 --> 02:01:15.920
Yeah, they do, like, scarf.

2243
02:01:16.859 --> 02:01:19.720
Okay, but you don't think that bat people would just

2244
02:01:19.800 --> 02:01:21.979
eat fruit like normal people?

2245
02:01:22.239 --> 02:01:25.760
I mean, not unless they've been influenced by normal people,

2246
02:01:25.840 --> 02:01:29.159
because otherwise that's how it's normal to them. Now who's

2247
02:01:29.199 --> 02:01:30.100
the colonizer?

2248
02:01:30.119 --> 02:01:30.180
Now!

2249
02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:34.520
Okay, jeez. The funny thing is that is literally what

2250
02:01:34.600 --> 02:01:36.380
I was getting at, though. I was like, no, because

2251
02:01:36.579 --> 02:01:39.359
they're separate. To them, they're just like, this is what

2252
02:01:39.380 --> 02:01:43.859
you do. And remember, in bat people culture, the way

2253
02:01:43.899 --> 02:01:45.899
you show a meal was really good is you don't belch.

2254
02:01:45.939 --> 02:01:48.140
That's very rude. You hork the food down as fast

2255
02:01:48.159 --> 02:01:51.010
as you can, and then you lick your hands entirely

2256
02:01:51.119 --> 02:01:53.560
clean and show them that they're spotless.

2257
02:01:54.149 --> 02:01:54.430
Yeah.

2258
02:01:54.439 --> 02:01:57.170
And that's how they know you loved the meal. Yeah.

2259
02:01:58.310 --> 02:02:00.430
Then you take a pee on the floor. Okay, so...

2260
02:02:02.140 --> 02:02:05.260
The final entry in the series also offered an unfortunate

2261
02:02:05.380 --> 02:02:09.770
postscript of sorts. Oh, boy. According to Grant, Herschel's daily

2262
02:02:09.819 --> 02:02:12.829
examination of the moon ended abruptly when his telescope had

2263
02:02:12.850 --> 02:02:16.390
been left in an unfavorable position, absorbing the sun's rays

2264
02:02:16.850 --> 02:02:19.869
and sending his observatory into flames.

2265
02:02:20.369 --> 02:02:21.909
Oh, no, and he doesn't have the money to make

2266
02:02:21.970 --> 02:02:22.550
a new one.

2267
02:02:22.770 --> 02:02:26.659
Unless we send it to him. Oh, gee. This goes

2268
02:02:26.680 --> 02:02:29.819
from hoax to scam so fast. The high-powered device had

2269
02:02:29.859 --> 02:02:32.840
been damaged and needed to be repaired. The story of

2270
02:02:32.909 --> 02:02:35.359
life on the moon quickly spread not only to other

2271
02:02:35.399 --> 02:02:39.140
New York publications, but into other eastern states and then Europe.

2272
02:02:39.779 --> 02:02:42.800
The New Yorker apparently professed its support for the account.

2273
02:02:43.239 --> 02:02:46.880
Baptist missionaries reportedly contemplated whether the bat people might need

2274
02:02:46.939 --> 02:02:50.979
donations or the teachings of the gospel. The scientific community

2275
02:02:51.020 --> 02:02:55.399
didn't immediately declare the sun's reporting fraudulent. After all, they

2276
02:02:55.439 --> 02:02:58.560
had so little information about the moon, no one could

2277
02:02:58.640 --> 02:03:03.659
unequivocally state that there wasn't life there. I guess it's

2278
02:03:03.680 --> 02:03:06.119
hard to imagine living a hundred more than a hundred

2279
02:03:06.140 --> 02:03:10.819
years pre moon landing, let alone how insane technology jumps

2280
02:03:10.899 --> 02:03:15.090
started once the 1800s hit. Um, it's really like insane

2281
02:03:15.130 --> 02:03:17.229
to think like you could grow up before there were trains.

2282
02:03:17.770 --> 02:03:20.090
And by the time you're 55, watch people land on

2283
02:03:20.109 --> 02:03:22.970
the moon. They are maybe not that quite that intense,

2284
02:03:23.010 --> 02:03:25.909
but what I meant was you could grow up before like, uh,

2285
02:03:26.350 --> 02:03:30.850
the railroads done on in America. I mean, like, we

2286
02:03:30.890 --> 02:03:32.470
don't even have all the railroad track laid. And then

2287
02:03:32.470 --> 02:03:36.729
50 years later, it's like, we're on the moon. You're like, what? Like, yeah,

2288
02:03:36.770 --> 02:03:40.529
crazy how quickly things advanced. Yeah. So that is something

2289
02:03:40.569 --> 02:03:42.350
I try to keep in mind, but yeah. So like

2290
02:03:42.649 --> 02:03:45.619
being that far away from it, it's like, why wouldn't

2291
02:03:45.659 --> 02:03:47.560
you think there's life on the moon? It's just right there.

2292
02:03:47.579 --> 02:03:50.600
There could be, we can't get over there.

2293
02:03:50.619 --> 02:03:53.699
Yeah. We tried Tom over there, tried jumping to it

2294
02:03:53.720 --> 02:03:56.739
and he can jump high. Yeah. And, but it didn't work.

2295
02:03:57.319 --> 02:03:59.960
And he broke his toe. Oh, we had to put

2296
02:03:59.979 --> 02:04:04.319
them down. It's the only thing we know. Well, we

2297
02:04:04.340 --> 02:04:10.439
put leeches on him first. James Gordon Bennett was another story.

2298
02:04:10.859 --> 02:04:13.649
As the editor of the New York Herald, a competing paper,

2299
02:04:13.739 --> 02:04:16.750
Bennett took to his pages on August 31st. Hey, that's

2300
02:04:16.810 --> 02:04:19.949
today when this is airing. Immediately after the serial had

2301
02:04:19.989 --> 02:04:24.409
wrapped and accused the son of perpetuating a hoax upon

2302
02:04:24.449 --> 02:04:27.479
the public. While the Edinburgh Journal of Science was a

2303
02:04:27.539 --> 02:04:32.310
real publication, Bennett wrote... It had merged with another two

2304
02:04:32.340 --> 02:04:37.960
years prior and effectively did not exist. He pointed his

2305
02:04:38.000 --> 02:04:42.439
finger specifically at Richard Adams Locke, who had recently arrived

2306
02:04:42.479 --> 02:04:45.260
at the Sun as editor and had met Bennett briefly

2307
02:04:45.300 --> 02:04:48.180
during a criminal trial and expressed an interest in astronomy.

2308
02:04:49.000 --> 02:04:53.649
Locke had also enjoyed success selling his collected newspaper work

2309
02:04:53.699 --> 02:04:56.710
in pamphlet form, exactly what the sun had done with

2310
02:04:56.750 --> 02:05:04.579
the moon story, moving 60,000 copies in one month. Locke

2311
02:05:04.619 --> 02:05:07.300
denied it. The two sparred back and forth in their

2312
02:05:07.840 --> 02:05:11.319
respective papers, even after mail arriving from Europe in September

2313
02:05:11.380 --> 02:05:15.649
confirmed the hoax as fiction. Locke refused to budge. This

2314
02:05:15.699 --> 02:05:19.310
is like when we were kids, Rupert Murdoch fighting with

2315
02:05:20.250 --> 02:05:25.659
Ted Turner. Just, yo, you're a friggin' idiot. Rupert Murdoch's like,

2316
02:05:25.880 --> 02:05:28.760
he's a pretty foolish man. And then Ted Turner going,

2317
02:05:28.880 --> 02:05:31.319
you want to have a fist fight? God, those were

2318
02:05:31.340 --> 02:05:37.130
the days. Finally, after leaving the sun in 1836, Locke

2319
02:05:37.170 --> 02:05:40.109
began to use quote author of the moon hoax as

2320
02:05:40.189 --> 02:05:44.949
part of his byline. This, if there's ever a reason

2321
02:05:44.970 --> 02:05:47.970
to understand why America is the land of opportunity and

2322
02:05:48.029 --> 02:05:50.229
milk and honey, it's this story. It tells you exactly

2323
02:05:50.270 --> 02:05:53.170
why I would, if I were living in a, a

2324
02:05:53.250 --> 02:05:57.750
dirt floor you know building struggling to survive and i

2325
02:05:57.810 --> 02:05:59.649
read that story i'd be like i gotta go there

2326
02:05:59.890 --> 02:06:01.789
where the guy just adds it to his byline and

2327
02:06:01.829 --> 02:06:04.029
now he's like still out there i'd be like no

2328
02:06:04.130 --> 02:06:05.850
i can get by on anything i don't even have

2329
02:06:05.869 --> 02:06:08.350
to be perfect to do well there you know i

2330
02:06:08.489 --> 02:06:13.260
just have to be clever yeah yeah in 1840 he

2331
02:06:13.319 --> 02:06:15.699
went into more detail saying he intended the piece to

2332
02:06:15.739 --> 02:06:19.880
be satire and a commentary on theologians and Christian pundits

2333
02:06:19.939 --> 02:06:23.279
like Thomas Dick, a science writer who trumpeted the idea

2334
02:06:23.359 --> 02:06:26.750
of life on other planets without any scientific basis for

2335
02:06:26.789 --> 02:06:32.630
doing so. Ooh, okay. I've heard about Thomas Dick. He

2336
02:06:32.670 --> 02:06:37.529
lived up to his name. Very ridiculous claims. Surprisingly, readers

2337
02:06:37.609 --> 02:06:41.020
held no grudge against the sun. Once the hoax was revealed,

2338
02:06:41.119 --> 02:06:44.590
most of it, most found it to be fun and

2339
02:06:44.630 --> 02:06:48.069
a clever method of raising awareness and circulation of the newspaper,

2340
02:06:48.390 --> 02:06:51.289
which boasted 30,000 readers two years later.

2341
02:06:52.130 --> 02:06:55.020
I mean, it's quite possible that everybody reading it was like,

2342
02:06:55.560 --> 02:06:56.600
come on, that's not real.

2343
02:06:57.279 --> 02:06:59.520
Most people were probably like, I don't know about that.

2344
02:06:59.539 --> 02:07:02.359
Yeah, I don't know if I really trust the sun

2345
02:07:02.399 --> 02:07:05.420
about things. That was pretty ridiculous.

2346
02:07:05.880 --> 02:07:07.479
But that also makes a good point, though, that a

2347
02:07:07.520 --> 02:07:09.109
lot of people thought it was just a clever method

2348
02:07:09.130 --> 02:07:11.659
of raising awareness, if the rest of the sun was

2349
02:07:11.779 --> 02:07:16.000
interesting and valuable, then people back then, I mean, a

2350
02:07:16.020 --> 02:07:19.439
penny was not nothing. You'd read the whole paper. So

2351
02:07:20.119 --> 02:07:22.960
they may have just been like, ha, well, the paper's good.

2352
02:07:23.140 --> 02:07:25.020
I mean, that was pretty silly. And then they just

2353
02:07:25.119 --> 02:07:27.399
move on. Like I, that my penny is well spent

2354
02:07:27.899 --> 02:07:30.300
the end, you know, now if they did it every week,

2355
02:07:30.340 --> 02:07:33.979
I'm sure it would be very different, but the, Oh, Ooh,

2356
02:07:34.399 --> 02:07:37.939
the only curmudgeon seems to have been Edgar Allen Poe.

2357
02:07:39.029 --> 02:07:43.119
the writer and the writer had written a similarly absurd

2358
02:07:43.659 --> 02:07:50.699
oh i know i know poe pretty well i mean

2359
02:07:50.720 --> 02:07:54.449
like his stories it totally sounds like something poe wrote

2360
02:07:55.329 --> 02:07:57.069
yeah and i didn't even think about that's the same

2361
02:07:57.130 --> 02:08:01.220
time period yeah the writer had written a similarly absurd

2362
02:08:01.279 --> 02:08:03.539
story about a manned balloon flight to the moon in

2363
02:08:03.579 --> 02:08:07.979
the southern literary literary messenger two months prior that received

2364
02:08:08.060 --> 02:08:11.470
relatively little attention at the time he accused lock of

2365
02:08:11.590 --> 02:08:16.210
stealing his idea lock who died in 1871 never acknowledged

2366
02:08:16.289 --> 02:08:18.250
poe as an influence.

2367
02:08:19.659 --> 02:08:21.199
It's possible. It just, you know.

2368
02:08:22.359 --> 02:08:24.579
It could be spontaneous creation for sure.

2369
02:08:24.840 --> 02:08:25.560
Yeah.

2370
02:08:25.840 --> 02:08:29.760
The Sun remained in business until 1916, dealing mostly in

2371
02:08:29.819 --> 02:08:33.079
human interest stories and local New York news. After a

2372
02:08:33.140 --> 02:08:36.279
series of mergers, it continued publishing under various names until

2373
02:08:36.520 --> 02:08:40.250
the 1960s. Although there's no evidence they reported any further

2374
02:08:41.109 --> 02:08:45.689
pieces on the moon's inhabitants, they never printed a retraction either.

2375
02:08:45.789 --> 02:08:48.310
So in over 100 years, they never printed a retraction.

2376
02:08:48.369 --> 02:08:52.350
That's so good. Wow. So what did you learn, Michelle?

2377
02:08:52.430 --> 02:08:54.569
Because this was a good one. I really enjoyed learning

2378
02:08:54.590 --> 02:08:54.909
about this.

2379
02:08:56.609 --> 02:09:03.630
Yeah, me too. I learned that people aren't really that gullible, probably,

2380
02:09:03.670 --> 02:09:06.640
because nobody was upset when they were like, oh, it's

2381
02:09:06.680 --> 02:09:07.149
not real.

2382
02:09:07.180 --> 02:09:09.140
Yeah, that's fair.

2383
02:09:09.159 --> 02:09:12.760
And that's really what I learned, actually. Yeah.

2384
02:09:13.039 --> 02:09:13.560
I'll tell you.

2385
02:09:13.579 --> 02:09:14.560
Something, something New York.

2386
02:09:14.819 --> 02:09:18.890
Something, something New York. Something, something DeBronx. Did you ever

2387
02:09:18.909 --> 02:09:22.670
watch that vampire movie? It was like Vampires vs. the

2388
02:09:22.689 --> 02:09:23.350
Bronx or whatever?

2389
02:09:23.369 --> 02:09:25.069
No, I haven't watched it.

2390
02:09:25.449 --> 02:09:28.069
Oh. We're going to take a quick break, and when

2391
02:09:28.090 --> 02:09:29.569
we come back, I'll tell you what I learned, and

2392
02:09:29.590 --> 02:09:32.649
then we'll talk about the horror film I saw in

2393
02:09:32.680 --> 02:09:36.399
the theater, as well as one of the most unbelievable

2394
02:09:36.659 --> 02:09:40.520
and intense Reddit stories you ever heard, courtesy of Michelle,

2395
02:09:41.180 --> 02:09:53.310
right after this. All right, we're back. See, I made

2396
02:09:53.350 --> 02:09:55.880
it so far and now I can't talk. We're back

2397
02:09:55.949 --> 02:10:01.920
wrapping up our August 2026 edition of Monthly Spooky. For

2398
02:10:01.939 --> 02:10:03.619
those of you just tuning in, which doesn't make any

2399
02:10:03.659 --> 02:10:05.960
sense because that's not how this works. I will be

2400
02:10:05.979 --> 02:10:09.439
turning 40 in like two weeks. I'll have my Amazon

2401
02:10:09.500 --> 02:10:11.520
gift thing in the show notes if you want to

2402
02:10:11.979 --> 02:10:14.039
spoil me a little bit, you know, treat me like

2403
02:10:14.079 --> 02:10:16.899
a little baby, even though I'm an old man. And

2404
02:10:16.939 --> 02:10:19.000
I'm getting a new car. which is very exciting because

2405
02:10:19.020 --> 02:10:21.439
it's my first new car and my third car overall.

2406
02:10:22.640 --> 02:10:26.260
I've had good luck with cars, you know? So, I mean,

2407
02:10:26.279 --> 02:10:26.939
how many cars have you had?

2408
02:10:29.920 --> 02:10:30.199
Four.

2409
02:10:30.220 --> 02:10:33.729
That's pretty good. I think four cars isn't that many.

2410
02:10:34.729 --> 02:10:35.949
Was your first car kind of a beater?

2411
02:10:37.170 --> 02:10:39.810
No, but I crashed into something.

2412
02:10:40.029 --> 02:10:43.270
Oh, you shouldn't do that. No. Just for the future reference.

2413
02:10:43.850 --> 02:10:46.119
And then a transmission one. So I don't actually know

2414
02:10:46.140 --> 02:10:47.819
if that was related or not.

2415
02:10:48.689 --> 02:10:56.899
Yikes. Ooh, well, geez, chill. Um, but, uh, yeah, that, that,

2416
02:10:56.979 --> 02:10:59.399
that moon story though, really was fascinating to me. I love,

2417
02:10:59.479 --> 02:11:01.899
I love that. Oh, it made me think of something.

2418
02:11:02.079 --> 02:11:04.359
And I, cause you touched on the idea, like maybe

2419
02:11:04.380 --> 02:11:06.439
people weren't just, weren't so gullible. They just took it

2420
02:11:06.500 --> 02:11:08.869
as it was intended or whatever, as we understand now,

2421
02:11:09.770 --> 02:11:15.159
there is a whole debate about, In Romanian, like in

2422
02:11:15.199 --> 02:11:20.479
the circles of like Romanian archaeology and history, because they

2423
02:11:20.600 --> 02:11:25.420
found proof and evidence of like papers and pamphlets being

2424
02:11:25.500 --> 02:11:29.359
circulated in the late 1800s and stuff, warning people about vampires,

2425
02:11:30.189 --> 02:11:32.529
telling them like a grave has been found empty or whatever.

2426
02:11:32.550 --> 02:11:34.569
Like we need to be ready for vampires, like have garlic,

2427
02:11:34.590 --> 02:11:36.989
do this, do this, do this. And some people have

2428
02:11:37.010 --> 02:11:39.369
come out and been like, based on the historical record,

2429
02:11:39.909 --> 02:11:43.069
we think this was a goof. Like that this was fun.

2430
02:11:43.890 --> 02:11:45.449
People would be like, oh man, the vampire's out. That

2431
02:11:45.489 --> 02:11:47.289
means we all need to hang out together and have

2432
02:11:47.329 --> 02:11:52.489
a party and make food and drink wine. And when

2433
02:11:52.529 --> 02:11:53.569
I heard that, I was like, man, that sounds a

2434
02:11:53.630 --> 02:11:57.390
lot more like the humans I know than just wantonly

2435
02:11:57.430 --> 02:12:02.329
believing in vampires based on a frigging, you know, flyer. Yeah.

2436
02:12:02.630 --> 02:12:02.869
Yeah.

2437
02:12:02.909 --> 02:12:05.390
You know? Yeah. I feel like if there were vampires loose,

2438
02:12:05.430 --> 02:12:08.729
maybe they'd say it at the church, you know, at service,

2439
02:12:08.770 --> 02:12:11.579
which most people would be at because it's like 1810.

2440
02:12:11.579 --> 02:12:15.119
you know, but maybe I'm crazy, but I don't know,

2441
02:12:15.380 --> 02:12:17.000
but no, I just, that reminded me of that though,

2442
02:12:17.020 --> 02:12:18.930
that like, Oh, they took it in a totally different way.

2443
02:12:18.979 --> 02:12:22.069
Cause it's very hard to understand context when it's that separated.

2444
02:12:22.670 --> 02:12:22.949
Yeah.

2445
02:12:23.170 --> 02:12:26.409
Yeah. But in my experience, usually when I don't understand

2446
02:12:26.449 --> 02:12:28.109
context is because I assume it's going to be so

2447
02:12:28.130 --> 02:12:30.750
much more different than my own. And, and it usually

2448
02:12:30.810 --> 02:12:33.770
humans always, uh, they never disappoint in being very similar.

2449
02:12:34.369 --> 02:12:35.189
Yeah. Yeah.

2450
02:12:35.949 --> 02:12:37.979
So, but with that all being said, before we get

2451
02:12:38.020 --> 02:12:40.279
out of here, I, I did see one horror film

2452
02:12:40.300 --> 02:12:42.699
in the theater. I would have seen a second one,

2453
02:12:42.739 --> 02:12:45.000
but it came out before the show, which was the

2454
02:12:45.039 --> 02:12:50.279
new Insidious movie. But I saw The End of Oak Street,

2455
02:12:51.850 --> 02:12:55.390
which is the dinosaur horror adventure movie thing.

2456
02:12:55.710 --> 02:12:57.250
Yeah.

2457
02:12:57.270 --> 02:13:00.149
I have to say that I feel like the killer

2458
02:13:00.189 --> 02:13:05.279
dinosaur genre has not been properly exploited over the last

2459
02:13:05.340 --> 02:13:09.640
few years or decades. We used to have killer dinosaur movies.

2460
02:13:10.039 --> 02:13:13.079
Not a ton of them. But you had Carnosaur, you

2461
02:13:13.100 --> 02:13:17.140
had Carnosaur 2, Carnosaur 3, Carnosaur, well, it wasn't 4, Raptor,

2462
02:13:17.199 --> 02:13:19.960
which was basically Carnosaur 4. Maybe it was just the

2463
02:13:19.979 --> 02:13:23.449
Carnosaur movies. I just want more Carnosaur movies. Okay. Is

2464
02:13:23.489 --> 02:13:28.750
the reality of my life right now. But yeah, there

2465
02:13:28.789 --> 02:13:31.210
were all these, like, I like it because dinosaurs would

2466
02:13:31.250 --> 02:13:33.680
be dangerous and could kill you. I mean, Jurassic Park,

2467
02:13:34.189 --> 02:13:37.359
you know, the dinosaurs are killing people. So I was

2468
02:13:37.439 --> 02:13:41.180
stoked for it and I did like it. That sounded

2469
02:13:41.220 --> 02:13:42.739
like I was about to say why it disappointed me.

2470
02:13:43.060 --> 02:13:45.760
Not quite. But, you know, I fake out. I'm good

2471
02:13:45.800 --> 02:13:49.550
at fake outs. But I did like it. The movie

2472
02:13:49.609 --> 02:13:52.029
theater trailers, you mentioned the commercials didn't seem to make

2473
02:13:52.050 --> 02:13:53.090
it seem like a horror movie.

2474
02:13:53.590 --> 02:13:53.789
No.

2475
02:13:54.090 --> 02:13:55.810
But the trailers I saw in the theater made it

2476
02:13:55.850 --> 02:13:58.689
seem like a horror film. Yeah. And while it has

2477
02:13:58.729 --> 02:14:00.550
a lot of horror elements, it was much more like

2478
02:14:00.609 --> 02:14:03.220
kind of a thriller family adventure to me.

2479
02:14:03.270 --> 02:14:05.060
Which is kind of what I got.

2480
02:14:05.239 --> 02:14:07.180
Oh, wow. Yeah. And I thought it worked.

2481
02:14:07.859 --> 02:14:10.510
I mean, I got Family Adventure and then Dinosaurs.

2482
02:14:10.750 --> 02:14:12.829
Oh, yeah. You're like, I missed the dinosaur part. There

2483
02:14:12.850 --> 02:14:13.369
are dinosaurs there?

2484
02:14:13.409 --> 02:14:16.109
Yeah, I was like, what's happening here? They're just this

2485
02:14:16.189 --> 02:14:17.149
family and they're.

2486
02:14:17.909 --> 02:14:20.270
I don't know. Ewan McGregor is like yelling a lot.

2487
02:14:21.149 --> 02:14:21.829
Something like that.

2488
02:14:22.489 --> 02:14:25.489
But I did really enjoy it. I think that they

2489
02:14:25.520 --> 02:14:27.149
should have just, because it wasn't a lot of like

2490
02:14:27.220 --> 02:14:29.279
bloody violence in it. I think they should just cut

2491
02:14:29.300 --> 02:14:31.199
it all out and made it a PG movie. I

2492
02:14:31.220 --> 02:14:32.840
think then way more people would have went and seen it.

2493
02:14:33.359 --> 02:14:37.149
Because it was not scarier than Jurassic Park. Like in

2494
02:14:37.189 --> 02:14:40.369
my opinion, but it was super fun. It felt kind

2495
02:14:40.409 --> 02:14:42.409
of like a, almost like an amazing stories or a

2496
02:14:42.449 --> 02:14:48.060
twilight zone episode. The ending was super satisfying and nice. Okay.

2497
02:14:48.359 --> 02:14:50.119
I think it's worth watching, especially if you want to

2498
02:14:50.140 --> 02:14:52.140
take like a kid that, you know, is a little

2499
02:14:52.239 --> 02:14:54.239
like maybe 10 or 11 would probably be fine with it.

2500
02:14:55.239 --> 02:14:56.859
I really liked it. And it had a good message

2501
02:14:56.899 --> 02:14:57.380
at the end too.

2502
02:14:58.399 --> 02:14:59.899
Yeah. Dinosaurs are bad.

2503
02:14:59.979 --> 02:15:00.520
Damn right.

2504
02:15:01.199 --> 02:15:01.380
Yeah.

2505
02:15:01.399 --> 02:15:05.260
Damn right. So but I enjoyed it. So unfortunately, that

2506
02:15:05.279 --> 02:15:06.819
was the only horror film that was in the theater

2507
02:15:06.859 --> 02:15:10.840
that month, that last month. So Chell hit us with

2508
02:15:10.880 --> 02:15:13.699
the most terrifying Reddit story ever known to all of mankind.

2509
02:15:14.340 --> 02:15:20.340
Damn. So the glitch in the Matrix Reddit subreddit is

2510
02:15:20.380 --> 02:15:22.300
like not very active right now.

2511
02:15:22.319 --> 02:15:24.479
You think that's a glitch in the Matrix itself?

2512
02:15:25.329 --> 02:15:27.390
I wish that that's what it was. I think people

2513
02:15:27.430 --> 02:15:29.909
just don't care as much, or maybe it's like not

2514
02:15:29.949 --> 02:15:31.979
the right time of the year. Like it's like people

2515
02:15:32.020 --> 02:15:35.319
are posting. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're out there touching their,

2516
02:15:35.479 --> 02:15:40.000
their grass. Um, but I, there is one that I

2517
02:15:40.039 --> 02:15:43.720
thought was kind of interesting and probably not real, but

2518
02:15:43.939 --> 02:15:50.279
you know, so, so there's this, it's 1988 and there's this,

2519
02:15:50.619 --> 02:15:52.739
I guess, I guess there, I don't know what their

2520
02:15:52.779 --> 02:15:56.409
genders are, but there's these two people. And they are

2521
02:15:56.489 --> 02:15:59.689
in their first year of college in, I don't remember where,

2522
02:16:01.140 --> 02:16:04.319
at the dorms. And it's like near, it's getting close

2523
02:16:04.340 --> 02:16:08.260
to Halloween. And they heard that in this one dorm

2524
02:16:08.300 --> 02:16:11.699
where one of them lives, there is going to be

2525
02:16:11.720 --> 02:16:13.600
a haunted house. And they're like, let's see if we

2526
02:16:13.640 --> 02:16:15.460
can find it. And like, because they're probably because they're

2527
02:16:15.479 --> 02:16:17.079
setting up for it and shit. And it's supposed to

2528
02:16:17.119 --> 02:16:18.689
be in the attic. So let's like see if we

2529
02:16:18.729 --> 02:16:19.359
can go find it.

2530
02:16:19.470 --> 02:16:20.090
Yeah.

2531
02:16:20.100 --> 02:16:20.869
So they go up.

2532
02:16:21.010 --> 02:16:21.289
Yeah.

2533
02:16:22.189 --> 02:16:23.729
They go up to the attic. They go up as

2534
02:16:23.770 --> 02:16:25.909
far as they can, at least. to where they think

2535
02:16:25.949 --> 02:16:28.449
the attic is. And it's just, there's like a door,

2536
02:16:28.510 --> 02:16:31.060
but it's like locked. And they're like, okay. So they

2537
02:16:31.069 --> 02:16:33.219
go down one floor and they're like, we're just exploring

2538
02:16:33.260 --> 02:16:36.479
the dorm. And it's like a really, really quiet floor.

2539
02:16:36.680 --> 02:16:39.379
And it has like, you know, probably dorm rooms and stuff.

2540
02:16:39.479 --> 02:16:42.299
And then there's like an emergency, like stairwell exit. And

2541
02:16:42.319 --> 02:16:44.680
then there was another one, but they looked down that one.

2542
02:16:44.700 --> 02:16:48.159
It's not really emergency stairwell. It's just more dorms, rooms.

2543
02:16:48.639 --> 02:16:50.500
And then they see like, I don't know if it's

2544
02:16:50.520 --> 02:16:52.420
like a door near a bathroom or a bathroom door

2545
02:16:52.469 --> 02:16:54.610
or something. And they're like, let's open it. They can't

2546
02:16:54.729 --> 02:16:57.079
open it. But then they're like, okay, like, okay, there's

2547
02:16:57.100 --> 02:16:58.659
nothing good on this floor. So they're going to leave.

2548
02:16:59.120 --> 02:17:01.719
But then the one girl is just, I guess they're

2549
02:17:01.739 --> 02:17:04.700
women now. The one girl is just standing and the

2550
02:17:04.760 --> 02:17:06.879
doorknob turns and it opens.

2551
02:17:07.579 --> 02:17:07.750
Oh.

2552
02:17:07.969 --> 02:17:11.309
And inside is this like really, really big, long room.

2553
02:17:11.329 --> 02:17:13.709
Like they said, like maybe it's a hundred feet down

2554
02:17:14.350 --> 02:17:16.270
and it's like real wide and it has these like

2555
02:17:16.389 --> 02:17:20.799
really big windows. And there's like all this weird medical stuff,

2556
02:17:20.829 --> 02:17:25.469
like some gurneys and and like EKGs or heart thing.

2557
02:17:25.510 --> 02:17:27.649
I don't know what's there. There's medically things.

2558
02:17:27.670 --> 02:17:28.489
There's stuff, yeah.

2559
02:17:28.870 --> 02:17:30.690
Yeah, there's stuff. And they're like, huh. And they're like,

2560
02:17:30.750 --> 02:17:33.000
I guess this is what they're doing for the haunted house.

2561
02:17:33.319 --> 02:17:34.920
You know, like, I guess they're like, it's going to

2562
02:17:34.940 --> 02:17:38.260
be like some sort of weird like hospital, something creepy

2563
02:17:38.299 --> 02:17:41.819
like that. So they like go around and then they

2564
02:17:41.879 --> 02:17:46.290
leave and they see another friend who I guess is

2565
02:17:46.329 --> 02:17:48.870
doing the haunted house or something. And they're like, hey,

2566
02:17:48.889 --> 02:17:50.719
we ran into the haunted house. and it's over here

2567
02:17:50.780 --> 02:17:54.120
and the friend was like what and they were like

2568
02:17:54.280 --> 02:17:57.000
but it's this room and it's like and they look

2569
02:17:57.059 --> 02:17:59.440
up at the dorms and realize there's absolutely no way

2570
02:17:59.479 --> 02:18:02.120
those windows could have been in the dorm like there's

2571
02:18:02.180 --> 02:18:06.120
no big giant windows at all and where they thought

2572
02:18:06.159 --> 02:18:08.770
it was doesn't exist like there's no way to go

2573
02:18:08.870 --> 02:18:12.350
over there So they're just like, what? What? And they

2574
02:18:12.409 --> 02:18:17.059
also both are artists. So they both independently drew what

2575
02:18:17.079 --> 02:18:18.819
they thought it looked like. And it was similar.

2576
02:18:18.840 --> 02:18:21.319
Okay.

2577
02:18:21.520 --> 02:18:24.659
So then they're just like, I don't know, man. They

2578
02:18:24.700 --> 02:18:26.540
like looked around. They went back up to that floor.

2579
02:18:26.819 --> 02:18:30.200
Can't find it. Don't understand what happened. A couple of

2580
02:18:30.219 --> 02:18:33.969
years later, they're like still really interested in what it is.

2581
02:18:33.989 --> 02:18:35.909
And they're like, we're going to go to the library

2582
02:18:35.969 --> 02:18:38.149
and we're going to find the plans for the building.

2583
02:18:38.690 --> 02:18:42.229
And we're going to see what this was. And they

2584
02:18:42.270 --> 02:18:44.239
go to the library and the library is like, you

2585
02:18:44.260 --> 02:18:47.360
have to go to our like archives extension. So they

2586
02:18:47.379 --> 02:18:50.340
go over the archives extension. They tell this woman like

2587
02:18:50.360 --> 02:18:52.479
what they're looking for. And she's like, and they're like

2588
02:18:52.520 --> 02:18:54.959
afraid she's going to be like weirded out. And she's like, oh,

2589
02:18:55.000 --> 02:18:56.719
let me go get this stuff. Let me find the plants.

2590
02:18:57.049 --> 02:18:59.649
Goes to the back. They hear a very loud conversation.

2591
02:19:00.209 --> 02:19:02.610
And then that woman and another woman come out and

2592
02:19:02.629 --> 02:19:05.690
they're like, and she says, let me see. what she says.

2593
02:19:05.750 --> 02:19:07.729
Cause it was like really, I got it.

2594
02:19:07.750 --> 02:19:09.010
You've actually got me.

2595
02:19:09.659 --> 02:19:12.739
Okay, good. She says the information you're looking for, it's

2596
02:19:12.840 --> 02:19:17.120
not here and you will never see it. What does

2597
02:19:17.159 --> 02:19:17.819
that mean?

2598
02:19:17.959 --> 02:19:20.549
I don't know, except that it would make me want

2599
02:19:20.569 --> 02:19:21.889
to find it harder than ever.

2600
02:19:21.909 --> 02:19:25.309
Yeah. So they were like, okay. And they leave. And

2601
02:19:25.329 --> 02:19:27.090
then they're thinking about some more and they go back

2602
02:19:27.229 --> 02:19:29.750
to the, the main library and, And the library has

2603
02:19:29.829 --> 02:19:32.790
no idea what they're talking about, about this, this archive extension.

2604
02:19:33.010 --> 02:19:35.190
So they just don't know what happens.

2605
02:19:36.069 --> 02:19:37.450
Oh my God. Okay.

2606
02:19:37.510 --> 02:19:37.889
Yeah.

2607
02:19:38.590 --> 02:19:41.290
So first of all, I mean, that one, you pulled

2608
02:19:41.309 --> 02:19:45.209
me in really well. That one was really engrossing. Good.

2609
02:19:45.409 --> 02:19:49.729
It has hallmarks of creepy pasta. And I don't mean

2610
02:19:49.750 --> 02:19:52.139
that to be negative. I love a good creepy pasta.

2611
02:19:52.530 --> 02:19:56.639
I just mean like them both being artists and drawing

2612
02:19:56.860 --> 02:20:00.030
the things and And then that ending, especially, I mean,

2613
02:20:00.370 --> 02:20:02.590
because if somebody told you, like, and you'll never find it,

2614
02:20:02.690 --> 02:20:07.440
would just, who would say that? Yeah, because you.

2615
02:20:07.379 --> 02:20:09.780
Would think someone would be like, you guys have been

2616
02:20:09.819 --> 02:20:12.399
in here before. Like, there's, you know, just something like,

2617
02:20:12.760 --> 02:20:14.649
there's nothing like that. Stop it.

2618
02:20:14.809 --> 02:20:15.049
Yeah.

2619
02:20:15.069 --> 02:20:16.409
You know, if you were going to be annoyed at

2620
02:20:16.430 --> 02:20:18.510
the person, not like you're never going to find it

2621
02:20:18.590 --> 02:20:20.010
because we've hidden it so well.

2622
02:20:20.500 --> 02:20:22.420
I mean, if you say you're, and you're never going to,

2623
02:20:22.479 --> 02:20:24.979
that's like a challenge. That's not, I mean, like in

2624
02:20:25.020 --> 02:20:27.260
human nature, that's going to be people think like, we'll

2625
02:20:27.299 --> 02:20:30.329
see about that. Like that'd be the first reaction I'd have.

2626
02:20:30.409 --> 02:20:31.950
If somebody said, you're never going to find that you're,

2627
02:20:32.030 --> 02:20:33.450
you're never going to find, or you're not going to

2628
02:20:33.489 --> 02:20:35.670
find it. And you never will. I'd be like, we'll

2629
02:20:35.729 --> 02:20:39.629
see pal. Yeah. I'm going to be back tomorrow and

2630
02:20:39.649 --> 02:20:43.120
I'm not going to have any clothes on. That would

2631
02:20:43.139 --> 02:20:43.899
be my, my move.

2632
02:20:44.440 --> 02:20:46.100
I mean, that would help you find it.

2633
02:20:46.479 --> 02:20:50.100
But did anybody have any, like, theories or rundowns to

2634
02:20:50.200 --> 02:20:53.040
it or cause that's, that one's pretty solid. I like

2635
02:20:53.079 --> 02:20:53.840
that one a lot.

2636
02:20:55.139 --> 02:21:01.340
Thanks. Um, no, actually there's basically no comments. Oh, it

2637
02:21:01.379 --> 02:21:07.819
was 14 hours ago. Yeah. There's like five comments. So no,

2638
02:21:08.840 --> 02:21:11.799
someone was like freaky and someone else said, do you

2639
02:21:12.059 --> 02:21:15.319
got a TLDR before I commit to that novel? Cause

2640
02:21:15.360 --> 02:21:16.319
it's really long.

2641
02:21:16.340 --> 02:21:19.870
Um, So the internet is doing its thing.

2642
02:21:20.590 --> 02:21:21.010
Yeah.

2643
02:21:21.170 --> 02:21:24.079
You should post one where you describe, uh, realizing there

2644
02:21:24.139 --> 02:21:28.959
are bat people and, upright walking beavers on the moon. Yeah.

2645
02:21:29.079 --> 02:21:31.280
I wonder, I should feed that into chat GBT, that

2646
02:21:31.319 --> 02:21:34.120
whole like article and then be like, rewrite this as

2647
02:21:34.170 --> 02:21:37.829
a Reddit post. I bet it would be awesome. Actually.

2648
02:21:38.750 --> 02:21:41.309
Actually, that'd be, that would, I would be okay with that.

2649
02:21:41.329 --> 02:21:42.030
That'd be pretty cool.

2650
02:21:42.110 --> 02:21:43.510
I might, I might see if I could do that.

2651
02:21:43.829 --> 02:21:49.100
If I can, I'll, I'll send it to you, Chell. Okay. So, but, well,

2652
02:21:49.120 --> 02:21:52.739
I guess that is, that's it for this month. So,

2653
02:21:53.020 --> 02:21:55.540
thank you all for joining us here on Monthly Spooky.

2654
02:21:55.579 --> 02:21:57.959
We had a great time talking about spooky news, learning

2655
02:21:58.040 --> 02:22:02.409
something spooky, and just generally going on tangents. That's mostly

2656
02:22:02.469 --> 02:22:07.670
on my part. And Chell enjoyed getting angry. Hey, people

2657
02:22:07.790 --> 02:22:09.610
love mad Chell.

2658
02:22:10.069 --> 02:22:12.110
I'm not actually mad.

2659
02:22:12.489 --> 02:22:13.270
Right, right.

2660
02:22:13.569 --> 02:22:19.430
No, it's just the way I sound. Because, Because that's

2661
02:22:19.549 --> 02:22:20.690
because of my..

2662
02:22:20.549 --> 02:22:21.159
The Bronx?

2663
02:22:21.899 --> 02:22:29.059
Yeah. Because of where I'm from. I'm not actually mad, though.

2664
02:22:29.239 --> 02:22:32.120
Okay. It's like when somebody commented on one of my

2665
02:22:32.139 --> 02:22:36.819
YouTube reels and said, hey, the sound is on. No

2666
02:22:36.860 --> 02:22:38.620
need to sign. Because I guess I was using my

2667
02:22:38.639 --> 02:22:39.200
hands a lot.

2668
02:22:39.819 --> 02:22:39.979
Oh.

2669
02:22:40.360 --> 02:22:43.780
I commented and said, look, dude, I'm Portuguese. I can't

2670
02:22:43.840 --> 02:22:48.100
help it. You're just lucky I didn't scream the whole video. Yeah. Yeah,

2671
02:22:48.159 --> 02:22:49.680
we loud. We loud people.

2672
02:22:51.100 --> 02:22:51.239
Ah!

2673
02:22:51.420 --> 02:22:57.450
Anyway. But it's okay, Chell. You're allowed to be angry sometimes.

2674
02:22:57.870 --> 02:22:58.469
I'm not angry.

2675
02:22:58.510 --> 02:23:01.729
People love it when Chell's, like, mean and crunchy. That's, like,

2676
02:23:01.770 --> 02:23:02.930
their favorite time of the show.

2677
02:23:03.750 --> 02:23:04.090
So.

2678
02:23:04.750 --> 02:23:06.799
But thank you guys for joining us. We will, of course,

2679
02:23:06.860 --> 02:23:09.219
be back next month at the end of the month

2680
02:23:09.739 --> 02:23:12.100
to run down some more fun stuff and get ready

2681
02:23:12.180 --> 02:23:15.540
for the Halloween season. Because it'll be coming right up.

2682
02:23:16.420 --> 02:23:17.700
So if you want to email us, send us an

2683
02:23:17.760 --> 02:23:20.340
email at weeklyspooky at gmail.com, especially if you want to

2684
02:23:20.360 --> 02:23:23.579
let Michelle know she was being mean or angry. We

2685
02:23:23.600 --> 02:23:25.059
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2686
02:23:25.079 --> 02:23:26.799
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2687
02:23:26.840 --> 02:23:29.299
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2688
02:23:29.340 --> 02:23:31.780
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2689
02:23:31.799 --> 02:23:34.260
doesn't cost you a red cent. So until next time,

2690
02:23:34.360 --> 02:23:36.940
Chell has the last angry word.

2691
02:23:36.959 --> 02:23:38.780
I'm not angry.

2692
02:24:01.920 --> 02:24:02.260
Thank you.