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Haunted real estate at a killer price. Ghosts following you
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at the grocery store, tiny little skeletons. They're fun and
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we're just unearthed and poison in your halloween candy.
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Get comfortable, turn off the lights. It's monthly spooky.
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Well, hello, my spookies. It's of course October, the spooky season.
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And if you're listening to this, you are somehow not
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tired of my voice yet, And it is indeed that
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time of the month. It's monthly spooky. I'm, of course
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your host Enrique Kuto here with my good buddy and
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co host Michelle. Michelle, how are you? I didn't mean
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to start with the hard questions. I just thought it
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would be good to pull you in, you know. No,
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oh but Michelle, how's your spooky season been so far?
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I don't know.
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Not good, not good in what way?
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I don't not happy, so I don't want to do it.
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So you don't want to do spooky season?
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Yeah?
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So have you been have you been like purposely avoiding
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anything spooky or creepy or No.
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Not purposefully. I just haven't been seeking it out.
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It looks like somebody needs me to send them a
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giant bag of candy corn. No, I forget. Are you
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pro candy corn?
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I am, but I don't want it.
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Why Why wouldn't you want candy corn?
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I don't know if it would make me feel good, So.
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I'm not going Oh yeah, yeah, I shouldn't go with
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stomach stuff. Yeah, like eating stuff. The thing was I
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was trying to go with for those who I don't
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know how you wouldn't be aware, but might not be aware.
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I have been releasing a show every day in October
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and it has been interesting, to say the least. It's
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gone really well. This is actually this is the third
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year that I've done a new show every single day
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in October, and of the three, this is the least
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chaotic one, and it's also the biggest one.
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Good.
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The sheer amount of shows, the sheer length of episodes.
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We've had a lot of longer episodes, shows that are
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an hour, hour and a half. We're releasing next Wednesday,
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and this is an exclusive if you're listening right now.
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Next Wednesday, we release a sequel to last year's novella
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Dirt Babies by Bruce Haney. We're releasing Asylum of the
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Dirt Babies. It's a sequel and it's really good. And
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it's longest standard episode of Weekly Spooky ever. It's two
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hours and forty minutes. Wow, it's really really good.
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Sorry, it's like a movie but longer.
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It's almost a it's a it's a short novel, yeah,
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is what it is. So and of course on on Thursday,
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we also have another novella courtesy of our very own
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Rob Fields. We've been featuring a bunch of his novellas
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this October. It's been really fun, but it's definitely been
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a bigger challenge. Last year I managed to keep it
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all together, but it was really chaotic and I was
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struggling with like my voice getting knocked out and all
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that stuff. But this year, the stories on average are
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three times as long as they were last year. That's
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on average. There are few that aren't that long. But yeah,
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so it's been It's been an interesting experience and the
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audience doesn't really get an insight into that kind of
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chaos and stuff unless they listen to this show or
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maybe cutting deep into Horror, which is the other show
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I do that's conversational, because otherwise you know, I'm not
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gonna what am I gonna mention it? In the two
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minute intro. Yeah to a story. Yeah, Hey, everybody, I'm
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really tired. So a woman disappears. But we've also done
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some stuff I'm really proud of on Weekly Spooky that's
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kind of newer, which is we did three very special
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episodes of Terrifying and True that were a bit more expansive.
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We've been experimenting with bigger episodes of Terrifying and True
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where we're able to dive deeper into not just the
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stories or the concepts, but we're able to dive into
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like broader concepts, which I love. I love the idea
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of not just doing a story about like a true
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crime story, but doing a giant piece about vanishing hitchhiker
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legends or I really loved last month's spook Hollo episode
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and the Resurrection Mary episode. Those were really fun. And
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this month we did we did an episode about Elmir
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Curdie the corpse that toward America and ended up Yeah,
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and then ended up a decoration in a Spook Show
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ride in California.
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Oh, I do know about that. Yeah, you should.
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Listen to that episode. It's really interesting. It was discovered
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by a crew member on the set of The Six
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Million Dollar Man because they were filming in the ride Wow,
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and somebody was like, move that dummy out of the way,
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and the arm fell off and the guy picked it up.
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It was like, that's a bone, that's a human arm.
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It was mummified at that point, of course, But it
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also leads into a somewhat broader topic about the fact
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that corpses were toward and like if you were an outlaw,
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for instance, sometimes people would like buy your corpse or
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just happen to obtain your corpse, and they would charge
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people at mission to see it. Yeah, stuff like that
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was very common in the eighteen hundreds. And that's how
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he ended up in some spook show. Is he had
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been sold from one carnival to another carnival to another carnival,
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and each time less information was exchanged till to the
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point where somebody just saw what looked like a body
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and went, oh, it must be a dummy because there
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was no manifest saying real human corpse.
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Can you imagine now having a real human corpse and
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not realizing it though, because I can't.
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I can, to be honest, no, not now. I won't
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say I can empathize, not like directly, but I've had
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friends who own warehouses and they really don't know what's
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in there.
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Okay, But if I'm saying, yeah, so if you have
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a warehouse and there's a human corpse in there that
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you don't know about, okay, but if you buy something
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that is literally a human corpse, I think I would
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know it was a human corpse.
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I get that. My point is that, like if you
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own a spook show or a carnival and another carnival
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goes out of bi business and they're like, hey, give me,
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you know, fourteen grand and you can just have this stuff. Okay, Yeah,
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you just kind of go okay because it's a fire sales,
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so you're just taking what they've got. You don't really
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even you know enough about their carnival to know that
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they have like rides and decorations, and you're like, well
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that's worth it. I'll just take it.
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Yeah, I'll just take this corpse.
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I'll just take this human.
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I'm just gonna grab it right now. We're going with it.
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A buddy of mine who owns a lot of oddities,
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he actually has to have his attorney keep him up
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to date on if the things he has are legal
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in certain states because idea yeah, it turns out sometimes
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they're not anymore. And then he has to make the
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concerted decision to like when am I going to put
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that in a van and take it to a warehouse
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I have in another state, because yeah, I'm not supposed
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to have it anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll stick to
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collecting like Terminator two memorabilia, I guess. But uh, the
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other two we did that I thought were really fun
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and fascinating. Where the Vampire Sacramento, which is a terrifying
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true crime story about a guy who was mentally disturbed
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and wo'd go around checking doors and if the doortob
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was unlocked in the middle of the day, he'd go
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in and murder the people inside and drink their blood.
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Yeah, that's why you should lock your door.
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You always lock your doors. Yeah. And then the biggest
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episode of terrifying and true ever over two hours and
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ten minutes, I did a deep dive into the Warrens,
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the first famous paranormal investigation couple, and it's really fun.
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The first half of the show is presenting all the
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legend in a fun and spooky way, and then the
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second half is pointing out how there's lots of lies
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and misdirection and just what kind of people the Warrens
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might have been. Yeah, so it's been a really cool
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and I will give one quick tease before we take
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this break and jump into the spooky news. Next month,
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we are doing three terrifying and true stories somewhat related
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to Thanksgiving, with the first one being the actual history
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of the Donner Party. Oh wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, a
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little cannibalism humor. But then we're doing two different episodes
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about the cruel, terrifying reality of hardship during the time
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of the Pilgrims. So one of them is like how
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much starvation there was, and it leans into the Native
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Americans that they were doing business with as well, because
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one thing people often ignore about that time period is
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the Native American tribe. The reason they were extra ready
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to be friends with the Pilgrims is they had just
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went through an epidemic and lost a ton of their population,
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like about ten years before they arrived. So they were
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like so happy to make friends and they desperately needed peace.
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They were not in the shape to fight a war
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at all, Like they were just completely not ready. So
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we have one that's about the real harsh realities. But
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then for fun, We're going to do one about the
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the folkloric and supernatural fears of those native tribes and
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those puritans from the pill from the Pilgrims in that
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time period and history. Cool, so we get to lean
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into like things they may have worried about because of
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their traditions and legends and stuff like that. So I'm
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really amped about it.
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Good, I'm glad.
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So before we get ready for the spooking spooky news, Chell,
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do you want to know the topic for tonight? I
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guess we're gonna do a little bit of a of
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a exploration of the whole concept of poison Halloween candy. Oh,
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did your parents check your candy? No? Wow, it's like
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we have three kids, like if we yeah, it's fine.
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they believe that the candy was going to be poisoned.
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Did they tell you to at least like throw anything
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away that's not sealed or to check if your candy
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had been tampered with?
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Yeah, okay, so they didn't totally not care if you
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live or die.
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They I mean, they were just like, if it's been
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tampered with, that's the ones you eat first.
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Yes, they don't go bad.
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That's good. That's good. That's good education. I love that. Okay, Well,
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we're gonna do a little dive into an article all
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about it. We did a terrifying and true years ago
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about about poison Halloween candy. It's always an interesting topic
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and solid. As we head into the last week of October,
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Halloween is this Friday, and having Halloween and the thirty
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first on a Friday makes this month feel really weird,
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like you and I are used to the show being
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much closer to the end of the month, yeah than
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it is. So with that all being said, we're going
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to take a quick break and we'll be back with
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a whole bunch of spooky news because this October got
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the memo and came up with some spooky stuff right
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after this. All right, now we're back and chill. You
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mentioned during that break you're not feeling super good in
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your brain space. Well, that sounds like you're upset. I mean,
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you have a had ache. Geez, you know what. I try, Okay,
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I try.
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I'm sad. Anyway, Okay, thank you for that that that
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that was for me.
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You were trying to make me feel better and I
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appreciate that. So I thought to make you raise your
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spirits a little bit, maybe you could you could cue
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the thing for the for the News.
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So we're gonna do the Spooky News. That what we do,
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the Spooky News.
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Hey that worked, Okay, cool. I knew you had it
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in youa So this first story from the Spooky News.
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And I want to mention also, I forgot to mention
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this at the top of the show. This is our
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fortieth episode of Monthly Spooky Wow. We have done forty months.
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Oh my god, say it like that. It feels like
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a lot. We've done forty months of Monthly Spooky Wow.
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Wow. That's a lot, because there's not that many months
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in a year.
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No, there's less than forty months in a year. Yeah,
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you heard it here first folks nailed it. No, but
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uh And I just want to take one quick second
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and say just thank you so much Michelle for being
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my co host on this and for being game for it.
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Because when I came up with the idea, it was
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during a really weird time in the show, because we
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had just started to grow a lot and I really
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wanted to create some new value for the listeners that
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was fun for me, and I really honestly wanted people
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to get to know you. If I'm honest, they don't
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know me. Wow, that's a hateful thing, you don't know. No,
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they love spicy Chell. They love Spicychell though. They love
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when you're pissed off. It makes them happy.
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I'm just saying. At the end, all I'm trying to
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say is thank you, Cell. Sorry, but also but I
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also want to mention that several of the spooky news
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stories we have today are somewhat updates, like we've covered
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portions of these before. And what better way to celebrate
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forty months forty episodes of monthly Spooky I know what
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you're thinking. Forty that's an odd number to choose. It's
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I would have just waited until fifty or something. But
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we're at prime time. But I thought what better way
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to kind of bring it full circle than to talk
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about some stuff that we have talked about before. Yeah,
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little bit about the Warrens, which we were just talking
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about Ed and Lorraine Warren, which we did a terrifying
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and true episode about about a week or so ago.
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You could check that out if you haven't had a
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chance to listen to it. It's a really interesting thing.
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But the headline is owners of Connecticut's Warrens occult museum
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house invite to public to send in their haunted items.
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Oh, I could send in my stuff, just all of it. Yeah,
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I think it's haunted.
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What makes you think that's haunted?
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I don't know. It was here and I just looked
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at it and I was like, it's probably haunted. So
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now you have it, yay, enjoy.
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It's mostly old rags.
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Yeah, I just didn't know what I was. I was
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supposed to throw them out because they have like turbentine
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on thems. What was just like, you can have.
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It's old rags and dead batteries. You're not supposed to
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just throw them away. So here you go. They're haunted.
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Yeah, they're totally haunted. This one used to make a
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clock move.
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That got me. Good job, Chell, dit you uh. The
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new owners of Ed and Lorraine Warren's house and a
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cult museum are looking for individuals to mail in their
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allegedly haunted items. Now I don't know if you have
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you been following or heard anything about the new owners
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of ed Lorraine's a cult Zoom, I haven't. So. Their
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museum is supposedly full of items from all of the
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exorcisms and stuff they've been involved with.
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Yeah, they just like keeping things.
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Yeah, And we talked a little bit about how they
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had taken the real Annabelle doll on tour and one
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of the people taking care of it suddenly died and
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it was very sad, honestly because he was like a
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very young person. Comedian Matt Rife and YouTuber Elton Casti
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are the new owners of that house and museum after
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purchasing the property in August for one million dollars. I
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want to say, if I were a very successful comedian
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or YouTuber or influencer, this is the kind of crap
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I would start buying. If I made more than like
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ten million dollars, I'd be like, so, there's a famous
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occult museum. Can I afford it? Because then I'll just
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buy it to say I bought it, even if I
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sell it in the year, at least I owned it.
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Yeah. Yeah, I guess.
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I don't know. You're like, I don't know it depends
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on how the like the walls and the floor looking stuff.
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That would be the response.
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Exactly, I'm not just buying some cult museum that's like
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falling down and has an unstable foundation.
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But it is in Connecticut, which is nice.
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Yeah, but that doesn't mean the house is nice.
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No, I'm just saying that the probably have some curb
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appeal and stuff because Connecticut, you know, there's those people
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have nice things.
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What about property taxes?
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Those are goddamn high.
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I'm sure, Yeah, I don't do this sounds bad.
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I mean, you say that, but then you won't live
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next door to me. Even though the property taxes are
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super low here.
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It's haunted.
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All the houses around me are no.
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Just the ones directly next to you are haunted.
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Well, I didn't need literally next to me. I met
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on the same block because the house is directly next
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to me aren't for sale.
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That's because everyone's dead and they haven't figured out the
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chain of like ownership yet.
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That would be really funny if I was like, no, no,
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all the houses around me are empty, but none of
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them for sale. All of them, every single one. The
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Occult museum houses items that were investigated by the Warrens
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during their paranormal investigations. Items in the museum include a
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shadow doll, a toy dinosaur from the Devil Made Me
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Do It case, and of course the famous Annabelle doll.
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Yeah I could get a toy dinosaur way cheaper just
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saying yeah. After purchasing the house, the new owners have
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opened it up for private overnight stays, which include access
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to the museum. One of the reasons they're doing that,
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I'd almost guarantee it is the museum got shut down
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for zoning violations a while back, because you know, people
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are parking all over the street, you know, Like, I
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don't like zoning at all, But I will say I
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understand some of the argument, like my township has because
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their attitude is like, you can have a small business
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in your house, but not if it's client driven, Like
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you can't run a hair salon out of your house.
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And their idea, I guess is that cars will take
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up all the spots on the side of the road
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and make it unpleasant. Yea, So I mean, of course,
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my next response is like, well, you know, not if
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we hide. But I don't have a business that has
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a lot of clientele, so.
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That you can hide.
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You know what, all my clients are the ghosts around me. Yeah,
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haunt the houses.
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Yeah, so you don't even have to try to hide them.
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No, no, no, I have a license ghost to talk to.
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Overnight stays that the property are currently sold out through
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May tenth. Wow, that's man. There goes my plan for
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us for Christmas.
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We can see can do it for I don't know, the.
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Fourth of July?
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Yeah, there we go.
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Yeah. But those interested in staying Overnight may sign up
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on the house's website to be notified of cancelations or
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more available dates. In addition to offering Overnight's stays, Casti
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and Rife are inviting people to send in items they
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may believe are haunted. Quote. Whether you want to give
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your item a new home or need to get rid
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of it, we will accept it, reads a note on
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the website. Those who submit an item are asked to
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include a hand written or printed note what other kind
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is there? Detailing the story of the item. The website
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further notes that all items quote will be opened and
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investigated on camera for a new series for from Casti's
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Overnight YouTube channel, which currently boasts more than one point
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nine million subscribers. Wow, we should send it an episode
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of the podcast and be like this is definitely haunted.
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Haunted, yeah out loud on your show. Yeah yeah, there you.
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Go, fabulously wealthy. We're going to take a quick break
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and we'll find out a little bit more about this
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scheme right after this. I say that with love, and
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we're back talking about the new owners of Ed and
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Lorraine Warren's home and museum. The website did not note
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who would be determining if the items are haunted or
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where the items would be stored. Ownership did not respond
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to requests for And this is from Connecticut Insider dot com.
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So if you don't respond to Connecticut Insider dot com,
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who do you respond to? Really hateful, hateful quote whether
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you want to give your new item? Oh wait, I
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reread the part. Sorry, The items in the museum still
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belong to Tony and Judy Spara, who are the Warren's son
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in law and daughter, respectively. The Sparas are the co
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directors of the New England Society for Psychic Research or NESPER,
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a paranormal investigative organization founded by the Warrens in nineteen
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fifty two. Wow, that's how early they were in this
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whole paranormal thing. Though. No matter what you think of
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the Warrens, and I definitely have mixed to negative opinions
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about them personally, they laid the groundwork for an immense
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amount of what the modern paranormal movements are. Yeah, they
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came about like right when spiritualism ended in America. Are
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you familiar with the spiritualist movement?
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I don't know.
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It was just the time of seances and aura readings
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being mainstreamed, like you know, rich people would go to
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seances and stuff. Yeah, the spiritualism it started I think
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in the late eighteen hundreds and it went into the
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early ninety nineteen hundreds, and it was it was very
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uh popular for a while there. But obviously it also
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got a lot of backlash from religious people because it
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was literally occultism and stuff like that, and it was
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mostly run by shysters. But that's why a lot of
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the old Halloween traditions we've looked at in America they're
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very they're very like occulty because they're kind of on
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the tail end of the spiritualist movement anyway, So the
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warrants came about like right when the spiritualist movement ended,
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and not only did they start doing all this paranormal stuff,
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but it was all with a Catholic bent, which is
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very interesting, even though like Ed was not a priest
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and Lorraine was a clay claravoyant, but you know, Ed would.
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The idea was they would hear about a ghost and
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they would go there and she would you know, listen
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for the ghost's voice or whatever, and Ed would read
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Bible versus stuff like that. And they claimed that whenever
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they went to a haunting to check it out, the
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main thing they were trying to denote was whether this
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was a haunting or a demonic possession. That was like
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what they were always saying was that, like, is this
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the ghost of somebody who died hanging around or is
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this like an evil entity that's really here to hurt people?
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That was like kind of their gig. Yeah, And of course,
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if you watch the Conjuring movies, you've seen a much
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more attractive and exciting version of them, because that is
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most certainly true. And I'll be speaking about that later
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because I did see the last Conjuring movie came out.
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The final Conjuring movie came out this month and I
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watched it in the theater. Yay, But we'll be talking
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about that at the end of the show. Yeah. In
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a statement to Today, Barra said that they quote have
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no plans to ever sell the artifacts and are leasing
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the items to RIF and CASSIY in a five year agreement. Okay,
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so they bought the house and the and the space
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and then the goods in it. It's like, you know,
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it's like buying a house with the furniture already in it.
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You know, we lease in the furniture.
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It's weird to lease it though, because like it wouldn't
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be like, hey, I'm moving, You're gonna have my furniture,
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but you gotta pay me for it every month. But
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that'd be weird.
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It's smart smart. Well, it's extra smart because if they
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end up having a boatload of success with the YouTube channel,
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with the people coming to stay there, then after five
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years they'll get so much more if they offered either
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lease it again or sell it out right. Finally, they
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could easily triple or quadruple the valuation of what they
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might have been willing to pay if the proof of
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concept comes through. Yeah. True, that's smart business, but also
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it's unspeakable evil that, unleashed upon man, would end all
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life as we know. Da da da da da da.
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So in a since expired Instagram, oh my god, this
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is the news now. In a since expired Instagram story
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posted last week, Casti said that he was planning on
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announcing that he Rife and YouTuber Exploring with Josh Odd
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name must be Polish would be partners in a bid
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for the Conjuring House in Rhode Island. A Halloween auction
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for the house was canceled last week before Casty could
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make that announcement, after the underlying mortgage loan for the
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house had been sold. Oh hmmm, the identity of the
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purchaser of the loan has not been revealed. Oh I
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hope it's not a spook Key bank, America's most haunted
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bank purchased that mortgage.
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Wow.
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So yeah, that's I mean, that's really it's it's fascinating
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to me that Ed and Lorraine Warren's their memory really
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is still rocking and a roll in. And it is
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also funny because like if you look at some of
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the items, they really are like worthless things. Like it's
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like there's a care bear, just old, all old stuffed animals. Yeah,
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none of it looks particularly shocking.
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Well, they look old and old and scary.
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Hey, is that why people are scared of me?
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00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:23.720
No, because you're not that old.
484
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:27.559
Oh you're so nice. People don't like nice Michelle. They
485
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:30.200
want angry Michelle. We've gotten people writing in about how
486
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:31.720
much they like spicy Michelle.
487
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:35.599
So what I'm not. I'm just trying to talk and
488
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:40.240
that's what it sounds like. I don't know, I'm.
489
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.119
Just trying to talk and it comes off angry. It's
490
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:43.680
the bronx in me. Yeah.
491
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:47.880
Actually, it is definitely is, because I've had people in
492
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.839
the past be like, wow, you're really angry, and I'm like, no,
493
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:54.319
just talk talking like I'm not angry at all.
494
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:59.319
Oh really that might be because of your scowl. Yeah,
495
00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:07.960
that's the one you No, no, go on.
496
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.759
Please know what I have in the past. That's it.
497
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:14.279
I was going to say. Back when I lived in Jersey,
498
00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:18.200
there were multiple times when I'd be traveling or whatever
499
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.000
and people and I would they be like where do
500
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:21.599
you live And I'd say New Jersey, But yeah, You've
501
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:24.759
got like that kind of that East Coast aggression, and
502
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:28.759
I was like, I'm from Ohio. Like, I'm not from Jersey,
503
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.839
and at that point I lived in Jersey for like
504
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:35.160
eight months. I wasn't even like formatively there yet.
505
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:36.720
You know, No, it changed you.
506
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:41.559
Honestly, Jersey does change you, though. Yeah, but we're going
507
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:43.920
to take a quick break so that I can bathe
508
00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:47.200
off the New Jersey and also we can take a
509
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:50.519
look at a story we talked about earlier this year
510
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:57.079
or last year involving a strange hole in Chicago right
511
00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:11.480
after this. All right, my spookies, we're back. We're back, baby. Ah.51200:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.640
I don't know, Sorry, I have been. I've been working.51300:29:16.559 --> 00:29:19.279
I am an odd ball, you know, when it comes51400:29:19.319 --> 00:29:24.480
to schedule and work. I made it ten not even51500:29:24.519 --> 00:29:26.880
ten days in October before I started just getting up51600:29:26.880 --> 00:29:28.799
every day eight in the morning and going to bed51700:29:28.920 --> 00:29:31.400
kind of normal and getting up every day eight in51800:29:31.440 --> 00:29:34.440
the morning because the workload load was just so intense.51900:29:34.480 --> 00:29:36.759
I was like, I can't get away with going to52000:29:36.759 --> 00:29:40.359
bed at two and waking up at ten, yeah or eleven.52100:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.000
I can't get away with it anymore. Yeah, there's just52200:29:43.039 --> 00:29:45.039
too much to do. And I kind of like it.52300:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.400
I'm not gonna lie, but it is. It is weird.52400:29:48.319 --> 00:29:50.200
Yeah, it's a little weird that you get up so52500:29:50.359 --> 00:29:52.079
late at eight o'clock in the morning.52600:29:52.599 --> 00:29:56.599
Well, that's because I can't. I can't. I can't go52700:29:56.759 --> 00:30:01.119
to bed earlier and have like a successful sleep. If52800:30:01.200 --> 00:30:04.400
I don't see midnight, it's weird to me. It feels weird.52900:30:04.519 --> 00:30:08.200
I I always see midnight. So if I go to53000:30:08.200 --> 00:30:12.119
bed between one twelve and one, generally getting up at eight,53100:30:12.160 --> 00:30:16.240
I feel great. So, you know, but that was extra53200:30:16.279 --> 00:30:18.839
hard because I was sick at the beginning of September,53300:30:19.279 --> 00:30:20.720
and that threw me off because you know, most of53400:30:20.720 --> 00:30:22.519
the time I was trying to sleep in more, you know,53500:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.160
to catch up on like to rest up and heal up.53600:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.559
So now I'm kind of back in my groove of53700:30:27.559 --> 00:30:29.480
like if I sleep for six hours, I feel pretty53800:30:29.559 --> 00:30:33.359
pretty solid good. So that's just always been me. I53900:30:33.400 --> 00:30:35.720
don't know what what's your what's your sleep number?54000:30:36.000 --> 00:30:37.480
Like eight, you're.54100:30:37.319 --> 00:30:39.920
An eight eight person? Yeah, a lot of people are54200:30:39.920 --> 00:30:43.519
eight persons. That's why it's it's generally the it's considered54300:30:43.559 --> 00:30:45.319
the rule. But then when you talk to a sleep expert,54400:30:45.559 --> 00:30:48.480
they say six to nine hours is the average amount54500:30:48.480 --> 00:30:51.759
of sleep people need. Yeah, yeah, so, but I've always54600:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.359
been over on the side of like the six I54700:30:54.440 --> 00:30:56.839
just always have been for as long as I can remember.54800:30:56.880 --> 00:30:58.640
But every now and then you do need to just54900:30:59.759 --> 00:31:01.480
you know, get.55000:31:01.279 --> 00:31:05.359
More because you're not getting enough well.55100:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.960
Or you over exert yourself, or you stay up really55200:31:08.039 --> 00:31:11.160
late one night and you get even less sleep, you know,55300:31:11.759 --> 00:31:16.720
which does happen, but you know it's a balancing act anyway,55400:31:17.839 --> 00:31:22.279
how rude? Okay, So I mentioned I teased before the55500:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.599
break that this story reference is a story we covered55600:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.960
a while back because in Chicago there was a strange55700:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.039
hole people were talking about. This is an update from55800:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.279
Huffington Post dot com. The headline is Researchers discover shocking55900:31:37.519 --> 00:31:43.400
truth about Chicago's rat hole. Yeah you remember the rat hole.56000:31:43.599 --> 00:31:45.279
Of course, I remember the rat hole.56100:31:45.480 --> 00:31:49.319
Geese. It's a hole that really looks like a rat.56200:31:49.319 --> 00:31:52.000
Because a rat probably died in it, and then it56300:31:52.480 --> 00:31:54.440
went away and then there was just a hole.56400:31:54.880 --> 00:31:58.240
I guess we're gonna find out really well. It says56500:31:58.279 --> 00:32:03.079
that they discover shocking truth, and headlines never lie in media.56600:32:03.200 --> 00:32:06.799
So the article starts, oh god. The article starts with56700:32:06.880 --> 00:32:12.240
ah rats, Oh good job, guys, good job. Researchers think56800:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.759
they have debunked the origin of Chicago's so called rat hole,56900:32:15.920 --> 00:32:21.839
one of the Windy City's weirdest local landmarks. Pine hold57000:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.880
On the rat Hole wasn't what you think. It wasn't57100:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.720
some back alley bar that served as a speakeasy for57200:32:27.759 --> 00:32:31.400
the city's notorious gangster clientele, or a tenement stuffed to57300:32:31.440 --> 00:32:34.160
the brim with junk. It was actually a full body57400:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.039
impression of an unlucky critter that got wrapped in wet57500:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.599
sidewalk cement in the city's Roscoe Village neighborhood about twenty57600:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.960
or thirty years ago. The imprint closely resembles that of57700:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.680
a spread eagle rat, complete with the outlines of what57800:32:46.720 --> 00:32:49.880
appeared to be tiny claws, arms, and legs, as well57900:32:49.920 --> 00:32:50.440
as a tail.58000:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.759
I'm wondering if they're going to say that it's not58100:32:54.799 --> 00:32:57.319
a rat, it's a squirrel, because I go I'd buy that.58200:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.519
I don't know though, because the tail is really skinny.58300:33:00.960 --> 00:33:04.880
Yeah, but maybe the tail was just really skinny or58400:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.640
the impression because the tail of squirrels a lot of fluff,58500:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.480
So it didn't that's true. Yeah, let's find out.58600:33:11.039 --> 00:33:14.319
The rat hole went viral early last year after comedian58700:33:14.359 --> 00:33:17.960
Winslow Domain posted a photo of it on x. The58800:33:18.000 --> 00:33:21.039
post drew curious tourists to the site at all hours,58900:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.119
with some leaving coins and other odd objects around the59000:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.279
impression as tribute. It's funny, they say that, because that's59100:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.480
what you would do when you visit corpses like I59200:33:30.519 --> 00:33:32.640
was talking about in the nine eighteen hundreds. You would59300:33:32.680 --> 00:33:35.160
like put coins on them or in their mouths. That59400:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.599
was a big one. Yeah, put things in their mouths59500:33:37.640 --> 00:33:41.880
ew wiw, that's really gross. Yes. The constant traffic drew59600:33:41.960 --> 00:33:45.559
complaints from neighbors, though, and in April of twenty twenty four,59700:33:45.720 --> 00:33:50.279
someone filed the filled the impression with a substance resembling plaster.59800:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.720
City workers eventually removed that slab of sidewalk and took59900:33:54.720 --> 00:33:58.200
it to the City Hall County Building. A plaque honoring60000:33:58.240 --> 00:34:03.920
the rat hole remains at the eyetal site. Researchers hailing60100:34:03.960 --> 00:34:07.160
from the University of Tennessee, New York Institute of Technology,60200:34:07.599 --> 00:34:11.840
College of Osteopathic Medicine, and the University of Calgary published60300:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.559
a paper Wednesday in the journal Biology Letter in the60400:34:14.639 --> 00:34:18.159
journal Biology Letters that concludes the rat hole was most60500:34:18.239 --> 00:34:24.079
likely not created, not by the titular rodent but a60600:34:24.119 --> 00:34:25.559
squirrel or muskrat.60700:34:25.920 --> 00:34:29.119
Yay, sorry, gigs.60800:34:28.920 --> 00:34:30.559
Did you already hear about this? Oh?60900:34:30.639 --> 00:34:31.079
I didn't.61000:34:31.119 --> 00:34:33.880
I just figured yeah, because there's a lot more squirrels.61100:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.079
Yeah, and I think that rats are gonna be less61200:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.400
likely to just be out when all that stuff's happening61300:34:39.440 --> 00:34:42.920
than a star Chicago in the middle of the day61400:34:43.000 --> 00:34:44.199
when they're paving things.61500:34:45.239 --> 00:34:48.280
That's a fair point. Plus, you know, we already heard61600:34:48.280 --> 00:34:50.760
about how dangerous squirrels can be out in San Francisco61700:34:50.840 --> 00:34:52.079
area fighting people.61800:34:52.599 --> 00:34:54.000
Yeah. Yeah.61900:34:54.039 --> 00:34:56.960
The researchers studied online photos of the rat hole. They62000:34:56.960 --> 00:35:01.760
didn't even go to it. Really, this is science now.62100:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.360
The researchers studied online photos of the rat hole and62200:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.960
compared measurements of the imprint to the museum specimens of62300:35:09.119 --> 00:35:13.760
animals commonly found in the Chicago area. The presence of arms, legs,62400:35:13.760 --> 00:35:18.079
and a tail excluded birds, snakes, frogs, and turtles. Wow. Wow,62500:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.000
Yeah they are scientists.62600:35:20.119 --> 00:35:20.880
Yeah.62700:35:20.920 --> 00:35:26.360
Shrinking the possibilities to a mammal the claw outlines further62800:35:26.440 --> 00:35:31.800
reduced the field to rats, mice, squirrels, chipmunks, and muskrats.62900:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.000
The study said, have you ever seen a muskrat in person?63000:35:35.639 --> 00:35:36.239
I don't know.63100:35:38.360 --> 00:35:40.719
Oh my god, they're so cute. Had I couldn't. My63200:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.559
brain was like, what do they look like? Yeah, they're63300:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.000
very cute. Can you mentally recall what a muskrat looks63400:35:47.000 --> 00:35:50.719
like or not? No, do you want to see a muskrat? Sure,63500:35:51.360 --> 00:35:54.559
you want me to show you a muskrat. This is63600:35:54.599 --> 00:35:58.119
the kind of hard hitting radio journalism you get here.63700:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.239
Look how cute they're so chunky.63800:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.840
I don't think that the muskrat is just walking around63900:36:04.960 --> 00:36:06.239
on the streets of Chicago.64000:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.039
That I don't know. I don't know how common muskrats are.64100:36:10.079 --> 00:36:11.920
But if you look at the picture of the rat hole,64200:36:11.960 --> 00:36:15.039
which of course they don't include a good one, Yeah,64300:36:15.039 --> 00:36:22.000
in a musk wait rat hole Chicago. I'm so good64400:36:22.000 --> 00:36:25.599
at googling. There he is you see? Oh is it64500:36:25.639 --> 00:36:26.119
cut off?64600:36:27.360 --> 00:36:27.679
Yes?64700:36:28.000 --> 00:36:31.079
Yes, here we go. So that's the rat hole.64800:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.599
I don't think it looks like a musk rat.64900:36:33.920 --> 00:36:37.000
It looks more like a squirrel. The tail is the65000:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.760
only thing though that makes me think it could be65100:36:39.800 --> 00:36:41.519
you could, but you could be right about it being65200:36:41.519 --> 00:36:43.960
the squirrell's tail, you know, the fur off of it65300:36:44.079 --> 00:36:47.000
or something. Yeah, but I also just don't know, like65400:36:47.079 --> 00:36:53.559
how common muskrats are in Chicago, Like, I don't know.65500:36:53.639 --> 00:36:55.599
For all I know they're like, oh man, we're maggoty65600:36:55.599 --> 00:36:59.639
with them. Muskrats are common in the Chicago area, particularly65700:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.960
in the Caago River system. That makes sense the Chicago65800:37:03.079 --> 00:37:06.559
River would house something like a muskrat, although they are65900:37:06.639 --> 00:37:10.559
rarely seen in the downtown area. See but the river66000:37:10.639 --> 00:37:11.519
is near downtown.66100:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.840
But that does mean they're wandering the streets.66200:37:16.159 --> 00:37:20.800
Like some kind of vagrant. Yeah, well, we'll look into66300:37:20.840 --> 00:37:30.480
their research a little bit more right after this. All right,66400:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.360
let's get to the let's get to the core of66500:37:34.400 --> 00:37:48.199
this shell. Okay, inquiring minds want to know it's too important. Yeah, shell. Yeah,66600:37:48.280 --> 00:37:52.159
the creature's long forelimbs, third digits, and hind paws were66700:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.440
too large for a rat, but fell into the measurement66800:37:55.559 --> 00:38:00.519
ranges for eastern gray squirrels, fox squirrels, and muskrats. The66900:38:00.519 --> 00:38:04.320
most probable suspect is the eastern gray squirrel, given how67000:38:04.320 --> 00:38:06.840
abundant that creature is in the Chicago area.67100:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.760
The study concluded, Yeah, I doubt they would say, like67200:38:10.760 --> 00:38:11.920
a fox squirrel.67300:38:13.280 --> 00:38:14.400
I don't even know what that is.67400:38:15.079 --> 00:38:17.199
I thought I did, but I'm not sure now. I67500:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.079
think I'm thinking of a red squirrel.67600:38:20.840 --> 00:38:23.760
Oh oh they are red. Oh they have like the67700:38:24.159 --> 00:38:27.679
they're underside is like is like rust colored, and the67800:38:27.760 --> 00:38:31.519
underside of their tail is as well. Okay, here i'll67900:38:31.519 --> 00:38:31.880
show you.68000:38:34.800 --> 00:38:36.519
Yeah, they're really cute.68100:38:37.000 --> 00:38:38.960
They're well, yeah, squirrels are fine.68200:38:40.239 --> 00:38:41.280
They're really cute.68300:38:42.360 --> 00:38:46.280
They're not nice. Squirrels are not nice, but they're cute68400:38:46.559 --> 00:38:47.920
and they're not your friend.68500:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.440
They could be your friend if you feed them.68600:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.800
Mm. I don't think that's how it works. I think68700:38:54.800 --> 00:38:58.840
it gets worse from there. Other researchers have theorized that68800:38:58.880 --> 00:39:01.800
a squirrel created the print, and the study acknowledged that68900:39:02.239 --> 00:39:06.000
cement is typically wet during the day and rats are nocturnal,69000:39:06.119 --> 00:39:09.719
and the creature didn't leave any tracks, suggesting a squirrel69100:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.440
misjudged a leap or slipped from a branch and landed69200:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.360
in the wet cement and.69300:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.719
Then got up probably and was fine.69400:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.519
Yeah, they do like fall in dart like right away,69500:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.559
so I could see that right now. The squirrels aren't69600:39:24.559 --> 00:39:27.320
fucking with my jack a lantern. So we're cool. Good good,69700:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.440
But I haven't checked today. Maybe I'm maybe I should69800:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.800
go out there right now. Yeah, it's cold out here today.69900:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.079
I don't know what it's over there. It was like70000:39:36.280 --> 00:39:39.840
sixty it was Are you serious? It was thirty four70100:39:39.880 --> 00:39:40.880
degrees this morning?70200:39:41.199 --> 00:39:44.039
Oh, it was like forty one here, so yeah, it's70300:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.719
a bit warm four wow.70400:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.119
Ok oh, it's actually okay, it's I never leave the70500:39:51.159 --> 00:39:54.480
house like. It's actually fifty seven degrees.70600:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.719
Here now, okay, so it's cos.70700:39:56.199 --> 00:39:58.119
Yeah, well but it was. Yeah, it was thirty five70800:39:58.159 --> 00:40:03.320
degrees at eight am. It's very chilly. Yeah, and that's70900:40:03.320 --> 00:40:04.840
why I didn't mow the lawn. And that's my story71000:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.239
and I'm sticking to it. Nobody can come at me71100:40:07.280 --> 00:40:07.440
on that.71200:40:09.480 --> 00:40:12.039
Yeah, I believe you. Oh it's fifty seven here.71300:40:11.920 --> 00:40:17.679
Too, oh high five. Hey, he won't even reach, she71400:40:17.719 --> 00:40:21.159
won't even try. The imprint didn't show any sign of71500:40:21.199 --> 00:40:24.760
a bushy tail, but hair often lacks the rigidity to71600:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.800
create deep, well defined impressions, and it would have been71700:40:28.840 --> 00:40:33.840
surprising to find such an imprint. The study said. Yeah,71800:40:34.119 --> 00:40:39.639
it must be nice to be vindicated, huh sometimes quote.71900:40:39.679 --> 00:40:43.159
We therefore proposed that the specimen be re christened the72000:40:43.239 --> 00:40:48.119
Windy City Sidewalk squirrel. See this is why no one72100:40:48.159 --> 00:40:56.320
respects science. Yeah, because rat hole sounds awesome. Yeah, sidewalk squirrel.72200:40:56.400 --> 00:41:00.400
Now also, now we probably know I would assume this72300:41:00.400 --> 00:41:03.719
s world didn't die in the hole. Yeah, so because72400:41:03.760 --> 00:41:07.199
it just fell so like, it's not even that cool.72500:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.440
It's like it's like if I put my my footprint72600:41:10.480 --> 00:41:13.440
on what cement, it's pretty cool, but it's not that cool.72700:41:13.920 --> 00:41:14.159
You know.72800:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.960
I agree, it's pretty cool, it's just not that cool.72900:41:18.199 --> 00:41:21.000
Yeah, exactly, a.73000:41:21.000 --> 00:41:23.760
Name more fitting of its likely origins and more aligned73100:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.679
with the evidence at hand. They wrote, again, this is73200:41:26.679 --> 00:41:30.000
why no one trusts scientists anymore. It's because they make73300:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.840
suggestions like that. Gosh. Next they'll tell you why high73400:41:34.880 --> 00:41:39.360
speed rail is what you should want, bastards. We have73500:41:39.400 --> 00:41:43.320
another story that I'm sure you'll remember us talking about73600:41:43.320 --> 00:41:51.480
this person before. Yeah, and it's from our og source, Yeah,73700:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.800
Mirror dot co dot UK. Baby.73800:41:54.440 --> 00:41:55.719
Yeah.73900:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.440
The headline is I talk to ghosts and one haunts74000:41:59.440 --> 00:42:03.440
me at the suit supermarket, fruits and veg flies everywhere.74100:42:04.880 --> 00:42:05.360
Wow.74200:42:05.960 --> 00:42:09.880
Now, the reason you're going to remember this is because74300:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.880
we talked about this woman before. An Oxfordshire singer who74400:42:14.920 --> 00:42:19.000
once claimed to be married to a ghost has now Yeah.74500:42:19.119 --> 00:42:25.000
Yeah remember her pees Okay, yeah, yeah, has now turned74600:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.880
into a paranormal investigator, communicating with spirits in the most74700:42:29.000 --> 00:42:37.360
unexp unexpected, unexpected places, including supermarkets. Brocardi, known for her74800:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.320
romantic entanglement with Eduardo, the apparition of a Victorian soldier74900:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.960
who appeared in her home ended their spectral marriage through75000:42:46.000 --> 00:42:50.199
an exorcism last year. I remember so vividly when we75100:42:50.320 --> 00:42:51.079
talked about this.75200:42:51.480 --> 00:42:54.320
Yeah, no, it's not acceptable.75300:42:54.039 --> 00:42:55.880
No to exercise somebody.75400:42:56.360 --> 00:42:58.800
Yeah no, what you you want to be married to them,75500:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.679
so you exercise them. You could just tell them that75600:43:01.760 --> 00:43:04.880
we're getting a divorce. It's not like you're really married anyway.75700:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.400
But there is the questionable element of like he was75800:43:08.440 --> 00:43:12.679
living in her home even before she knew him. Well, yeah,75900:43:12.760 --> 00:43:14.360
living existing.76000:43:14.440 --> 00:43:18.440
Sometimes sometimes you just have roommates.76100:43:18.760 --> 00:43:20.960
That you don't that you don't know about her choose.76200:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.559
Well, I mean there are plenty of places where you76300:43:23.599 --> 00:43:27.639
don't choose your roommates. So I think it's just the76400:43:27.679 --> 00:43:28.519
same situation.76500:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.039
Okay, we don't.76600:43:31.840 --> 00:43:35.840
Exercise people just because we're not in love with them anymore.76700:43:36.679 --> 00:43:37.519
It's not okay.76800:43:38.159 --> 00:43:40.400
I like that you This is a real like stance76900:43:40.480 --> 00:43:45.159
you have. It is I respect that I respect that77000:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.880
you have like a very strong moral opinion about exercising77100:43:50.000 --> 00:43:51.400
ghosts that you're married to.77200:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.679
Or really any ghosts do you do? I'm nod into that.77300:43:54.760 --> 00:43:55.840
Now, what if they're evil?77400:43:56.519 --> 00:43:57.679
I don't think ghosts to evil.77500:43:58.960 --> 00:44:01.119
So you don't think evil people can become ghosts?77600:44:01.480 --> 00:44:04.360
No, I just don't think that people are evil. I77700:44:04.360 --> 00:44:06.199
think people are just kind of bad. So I think77800:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.800
there are probably some really annoying, pissed off, angry ghosts77900:44:10.039 --> 00:44:11.800
that I wouldn't want to be around. But I don't78000:44:11.800 --> 00:44:12.519
think they're evil.78100:44:12.920 --> 00:44:14.760
But is there a line, like would there be a78200:44:14.800 --> 00:44:16.519
line a ghost could cross where you be like this78300:44:16.559 --> 00:44:17.440
needs an exorcism?78400:44:17.800 --> 00:44:20.920
I guess if it started murdering people, what.78500:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.760
If it just started threatening like really really threatening.78600:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.159
People, how do we know? Like where does speech end?78700:44:28.880 --> 00:44:34.920
And Well, the argument you're making that I appreciate very78800:44:35.039 --> 00:44:38.760
much about free speech is in free speech you're able78900:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.880
to get away from the speech you don't like. M79000:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.400
If it's a ghost that just can manifest into your home,79100:44:47.159 --> 00:44:51.800
that is tricky. Okay, here's no no, you know what? Okay, Fine,79200:44:51.880 --> 00:44:55.440
let's go this direction. Property rights? How can we enforce79300:44:55.559 --> 00:44:58.360
property rights? That's the problem here?79400:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.679
Well, instead of exercise him can we just say, like,79500:45:02.039 --> 00:45:06.320
can we just do like eviction, Like I just say, like,79600:45:06.400 --> 00:45:07.639
you can't live here anymore.79700:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.760
But what if they don't respect the eviction they just79800:45:10.840 --> 00:45:12.639
keep coming back? Then exorcism time.79900:45:12.719 --> 00:45:14.599
I guess then you call the cops and have them80000:45:14.639 --> 00:45:15.760
forcibly removed.80100:45:16.880 --> 00:45:21.239
I don't think they can do that because ghost I don't.80200:45:21.079 --> 00:45:23.800
Think they try. Do they do? Do you know cops80300:45:23.800 --> 00:45:26.119
come and try? Because I think that's the next step.80400:45:27.280 --> 00:45:29.119
Well, we're going to take a break and I'll ask80500:45:29.639 --> 00:45:34.119
Jeeves if if that's ever happened, and we'll talk a80600:45:34.119 --> 00:45:38.079
little bit more about this h singer songwriter from the80700:45:38.159 --> 00:45:53.559
UK and her relationship with ghosts right after. Okay, so80800:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.559
Chille and I will have to agree to disagree on80900:45:57.760 --> 00:46:03.599
the never an exorcism mentality, Yeah, but I will say81000:46:03.639 --> 00:46:05.840
I mean, if there's a way to get a ghost81100:46:05.920 --> 00:46:10.480
to comply with property rights and such without an exorcism,81200:46:10.480 --> 00:46:11.199
I support that.81300:46:11.679 --> 00:46:14.199
Good because I just don't think people really try that hard.81400:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.719
No, I agree. I think this woman went to exorcism immediately.81500:46:17.400 --> 00:46:20.760
Because she just yeah, exactly just like that.81600:46:21.239 --> 00:46:24.800
And for the clout, yeah yeah, yeah, although she's not81700:46:24.840 --> 00:46:29.000
a cloud chaser at all. Here we go. Despite their split,81800:46:29.159 --> 00:46:32.440
her and Eduardo the Ghost, the forty two year old81900:46:32.440 --> 00:46:35.599
singer songwriter who boasts one hundred and ninety three thousand82000:46:35.679 --> 00:46:40.960
followers on Instagram, continues to encounter the spirit world. She's82100:46:41.000 --> 00:46:47.119
now a paranormal investigator shocking right, yeah, and claims to82200:46:47.159 --> 00:46:51.280
have communicated with over one hundred spirits, spirits, some of82300:46:51.320 --> 00:46:56.760
whom are as quote annoying as they probably were when alive.82400:46:59.559 --> 00:47:01.119
She sounds like a delightful person.82500:47:01.599 --> 00:47:04.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally want to talk to her82600:47:04.159 --> 00:47:05.440
if I was a spirit.82700:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.960
Or even just a human, if I was just alive,82800:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.519
I'd want to talk. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. She seems82900:47:10.519 --> 00:47:11.719
like she'd be fun at parties.83000:47:12.119 --> 00:47:12.800
Yeah.83100:47:12.840 --> 00:47:16.840
Her spectral encounters include a drunk miner who met his83200:47:17.119 --> 00:47:22.119
end on duty and quote idiot ghosts attempting to intimidate83300:47:22.199 --> 00:47:22.679
the living.83400:47:23.119 --> 00:47:24.880
Oh fuck her. I hate her.83500:47:25.840 --> 00:47:28.920
She has a real like uh like a real superiority83600:47:29.000 --> 00:47:32.760
complex thing. Ghost. Yeah, what is this? What is this?83700:47:33.480 --> 00:47:35.760
She looks like you would expect. She's like, you know,83800:47:36.960 --> 00:47:45.519
just all gothed out. Yeah wow yeah, yeah, I I'm83900:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.800
glad she has no friends. No, she has friends, no,84000:47:49.840 --> 00:47:51.199
not when you talk to ghosts like.84100:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.440
That, oh, well, she doesn't have ghost friends anymore.84200:47:55.599 --> 00:47:58.719
Quote. I try to keep my communications with ghosts a84300:47:58.719 --> 00:48:02.400
little relaxed. Sometimes a spirit is wrapped up in their84400:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.280
own pain and thoughts and just wants to voice their84500:48:05.320 --> 00:48:09.719
sorrow or be noticed. She shared with what's the jam? Yeah,84600:48:09.719 --> 00:48:11.599
and then you hear their sorrow and go, wow, you're84700:48:11.639 --> 00:48:13.000
an idiot exactly.84800:48:13.719 --> 00:48:15.239
You tell other people about it.84900:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.039
She's like the worst therapist ever, Like, these are my problems. Wow,85000:48:19.039 --> 00:48:24.400
they're dumb. You're not very smart. It's like, thanks, therapist,85100:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.599
not very helpful. No. She explained that modern buildings often85200:48:30.679 --> 00:48:35.480
stand on ancient burial sites or houses where someone has85300:48:35.559 --> 00:48:36.159
passed away.85400:48:37.280 --> 00:48:38.360
That's usually true.85500:48:39.639 --> 00:48:44.760
I suppose when these structures are demolished and new ones erected,85600:48:45.079 --> 00:48:48.360
the spirits don't forget. What if they're idiots.85700:48:48.000 --> 00:48:52.679
Though, Uh, I don't know. Maybe then they do forget,85800:48:52.800 --> 00:48:54.039
so we don't have to worry about those.85900:48:54.199 --> 00:48:57.519
Oh thank goodness. She even had a ghostly follower in86000:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.920
a supermarket once, causing fruits and vegetab to roll off86100:49:00.960 --> 00:49:03.599
the shelves, leaving shoppers baffled.86200:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.320
No, they were annoyed with her. And that's a really86300:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.840
convenient way to get around, being like, I'm really sorry86400:49:10.880 --> 00:49:11.960
I dropped all those grapes.86500:49:12.559 --> 00:49:18.559
Excuse me? Miss? Is this your idiot ghost knocking things around?86600:49:20.159 --> 00:49:22.559
It's their quote, it's their emotion that I pick up86700:49:22.559 --> 00:49:25.519
on first. I've heard spirits crying out in pain for86800:49:25.599 --> 00:49:30.559
loved ones, she said. Is she gonna call him an idiot? Though?86900:49:31.159 --> 00:49:31.559
I don't know.87000:49:32.400 --> 00:49:35.880
But I've also encountered ghosts who are completely devoid of emotion,87100:49:36.480 --> 00:49:38.880
like a miner who had nothing to say apart from87200:49:38.920 --> 00:49:42.679
asking me for a drink. His voice was slurred and87300:49:42.719 --> 00:49:44.760
he was swaying while sitting at a bar in his87400:49:44.920 --> 00:49:48.719
dusty boots and soiled clothes. How are is clothes soiled87500:49:48.719 --> 00:49:52.920
if he's not even real? Like drink? Yeah, that's a87600:49:52.960 --> 00:49:53.639
fair point too.87700:49:54.079 --> 00:49:57.000
Also, like him being drunk and asking for a drink87800:49:57.039 --> 00:49:59.440
does not mean he doesn't have any emotions. I don't87900:49:59.440 --> 00:50:02.920
think people drink a lot because they're like, I have88000:50:03.039 --> 00:50:04.920
no emotions.88100:50:05.800 --> 00:50:07.840
I mean, I've never drank. I don't know.88200:50:07.960 --> 00:50:09.719
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that's what it is.88300:50:10.360 --> 00:50:14.480
I didn't tell us, Yes, Weekly Spooky at gmail dot com,88400:50:14.519 --> 00:50:22.199
tell us why you drink? Eight hundred word limit? She added,88500:50:22.280 --> 00:50:24.719
quote the miner informed me that he died on the88600:50:24.800 --> 00:50:28.239
job and didn't spend enough time drinking and enjoying life.88700:50:28.599 --> 00:50:33.920
Oh so he he regrets things, that's that's something.88800:50:34.840 --> 00:50:38.840
Yeah. Quote he grunted every time the doors swung open.88900:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.800
It felt like he resented the living. He probably just89000:50:41.800 --> 00:50:43.599
didn't like you. You're not a very good example.89100:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.199
Yeah, Or maybe he didn't like the sound the door made.89200:50:46.280 --> 00:50:49.719
Who knows, Yes, some doors make weird sounds. Yeah, maybe89300:50:49.960 --> 00:50:51.280
a little oil on that thing.89400:50:51.159 --> 00:50:54.320
Is exactly exactly. Maybe it was really squeaky, and he89500:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.480
was like, Ah, somebody fucking do something about that already.89600:50:57.519 --> 00:51:01.079
Come on, put a little of that rustle not rustolium,89700:51:01.199 --> 00:51:02.119
that stuff on it.89800:51:02.440 --> 00:51:04.199
Wy, you shouldn't put that on door.89900:51:05.119 --> 00:51:06.960
That's why I didn't want to say it. Yeah, because90000:51:06.960 --> 00:51:13.519
I use what's it called, like the silicone spray. That90100:51:13.559 --> 00:51:16.360
stuff's good and it stays for a really long time.90200:51:16.400 --> 00:51:17.960
There was that day I got crazy and I bought90300:51:17.960 --> 00:51:20.360
a can of it and I just oiled every hinge90400:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.559
in the house. I remember, everything sounds so much better.90500:51:24.079 --> 00:51:26.320
My front door, Like you don't even hear it open anymore,90600:51:27.199 --> 00:51:30.800
Like it makes no sound, that just glides. Wow, it's beautiful.90700:51:31.960 --> 00:51:34.960
Riccardi said that in a certain way, ghosts are quote90800:51:35.199 --> 00:51:38.880
exactly like living humans. Did you why do you need90900:51:38.920 --> 00:51:43.239
to preface living? Okay? Uh? She added, each one has91000:51:43.280 --> 00:51:47.559
a different story and personality and a unique way of communicating.91100:51:48.559 --> 00:51:51.440
Some ghosts are idiots and want to cause trouble, just91200:51:51.559 --> 00:51:52.920
like some living people do.91300:51:53.559 --> 00:51:55.039
She's just jerk.91400:51:55.719 --> 00:51:58.320
Oh, it gets better. If someone is brash and annoying91500:51:58.360 --> 00:52:01.400
in life, they are often brash annoying in death. Well,91600:52:01.400 --> 00:52:03.440
I know whose ghost I'm gonna avoid when she dies?91700:52:03.679 --> 00:52:08.440
Mm hmmm, hey, I mean Riccardi also once had a powerful,91800:52:08.559 --> 00:52:11.639
yet fleeting encounter with a young girl at an old saloon,91900:52:12.159 --> 00:52:16.320
as well as a monk from the twelve hundreds. But92000:52:16.400 --> 00:52:20.119
were they idiots? The singer said, quote she must have92100:52:20.199 --> 00:52:22.599
been about seven and was wearing a dirty white dress.92200:52:22.599 --> 00:52:23.840
Why is everybody dirty?92300:52:24.639 --> 00:52:26.280
Because that's how they were when they died.92400:52:26.800 --> 00:52:31.000
Okay, okay. The child led me to a doll that92500:52:31.119 --> 00:52:33.840
was sitting in a rocking chair. I tried to connect92600:52:33.840 --> 00:52:35.800
with this young girl and found out more using my92700:52:35.920 --> 00:52:39.079
spirit rods, but she told me that she was tired92800:52:39.119 --> 00:52:42.360
and too poorly to play. Too poorly. That must be92900:52:42.360 --> 00:52:44.960
a British thing too. Poorly to play. Her eyes were93000:52:45.000 --> 00:52:51.079
almost hollow. Like I love that this I don't know.93100:52:51.760 --> 00:52:53.920
I love that this article is full of just like93200:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.480
selfies she took of herself from Instagram, like every like93300:52:57.599 --> 00:53:00.199
six or six sentences. It's just like a big sure93400:53:00.239 --> 00:53:02.119
of her, like twisting her head a weird way.93500:53:02.440 --> 00:53:04.679
Yeah you know, Yeah, that's great.93600:53:06.400 --> 00:53:10.440
Let's see. I've also encountered Oh sorry, uh, she continued.93700:53:10.480 --> 00:53:12.840
It troubled me to feel that this child's ghost was93800:53:12.840 --> 00:53:17.159
still suffering even in death. I also encountered the apparition93900:53:17.280 --> 00:53:20.360
of a frail man who was wasting away before my eyes.94000:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.360
He was chanting in what I believe to be Latin,94100:53:23.719 --> 00:53:27.280
but his chants were like cries. The monk was begging94200:53:27.320 --> 00:53:29.760
for food and told me that he died of starvation94300:53:30.679 --> 00:53:35.199
due to malnutrition. What kind of what do you? How94400:53:35.199 --> 00:53:38.360
do you talk like that? I don't know he died94500:53:38.400 --> 00:53:40.000
of starvation due to malnutrition.94600:53:41.400 --> 00:53:44.840
I don't know. Maybe, okay, so let's let's be fair.94700:53:45.280 --> 00:53:47.800
Maybe the monk just doesn't know what those two things94800:53:47.840 --> 00:53:49.480
are and he got confused.94900:53:50.760 --> 00:53:55.320
That could be yeah, Brocardi doesn't just sense emotion or95000:53:55.360 --> 00:53:58.480
hear voices. She claims to also be able to smell95100:53:58.559 --> 00:54:02.920
ghosts in her presence. All right, wow, this is gonna95200:54:02.920 --> 00:54:05.679
be mean. I just have a feeling, she said. Quote.95300:54:05.800 --> 00:54:08.800
Often a ghost will trigger your senses. When I saw95400:54:08.800 --> 00:54:12.280
an apparition of Marie Antoinette at Versailles, it wasn't just95500:54:12.360 --> 00:54:15.480
a visual. She had quite a unique scent of menthol,95600:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.119
peppermint and almost herbal smell.95700:54:19.000 --> 00:54:20.280
Hmm.95800:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.519
I always wonder what Marie Antoinette smelled like.95900:54:23.280 --> 00:54:25.039
You know, we should look into it and see if96000:54:25.079 --> 00:54:27.920
she's right, because maybe someone would tell us.96100:54:28.280 --> 00:54:30.599
Weekly Spooky at gmail dot com. Tell us what you96200:54:30.639 --> 00:54:34.360
believe Marie Antoinette smelled like eight hundred word limit. We're96300:54:34.360 --> 00:54:36.679
gonna take a quick break and we'll find out what96400:54:36.719 --> 00:54:51.039
other ghosts smell like right after this. So let's dig96500:54:51.079 --> 00:54:57.840
a little deeper into this. Lady's Regina george like ghost relationships.96600:54:58.039 --> 00:55:02.480
M do you know who Regina Georgie's No, she's the96700:55:02.480 --> 00:55:07.480
main mean girl and mean girls. Oh you can't sit96800:55:07.559 --> 00:55:08.719
with us that person.96900:55:09.159 --> 00:55:13.360
Yeah, sorry god.97000:55:14.280 --> 00:55:18.400
Quote. Sometimes seeing a ghost is subtle, peaceful, and they97100:55:18.519 --> 00:55:22.679
just pass through. On occasions, they want to take hold97200:55:22.760 --> 00:55:24.440
of you and make an impact.97300:55:25.079 --> 00:55:28.000
Like physical impact, like slap.97400:55:29.239 --> 00:55:33.920
Intense headaches, pains in the chest, and extreme nausea can97500:55:34.039 --> 00:55:36.960
all be symptoms of paranormal activity.97600:55:37.159 --> 00:55:38.760
That's what's going on on this.97700:55:40.360 --> 00:55:44.039
You have a ghost, oh man, or it's your printer again.97800:55:44.159 --> 00:55:50.960
Either way, oh. Bricardi also visits haunted houses, but she97900:55:51.079 --> 00:55:54.920
says she finds them fascinating rather than scary. That's how98000:55:54.960 --> 00:55:56.960
my buddy Dave talks about haunta. He's like, these are98100:55:57.000 --> 00:55:59.400
just like interesting to look at. I'm not scared or anything,98200:56:00.119 --> 00:56:01.880
just cool look at and he runs through the whole98300:56:01.880 --> 00:56:07.840
thing as fast. Again, that's a true story, she said. Quote.98400:56:08.440 --> 00:56:11.199
Sometimes I still get unsettled, but I view the ability98500:56:11.320 --> 00:56:13.800
to see the dead, to see dead people, as a gift.98600:56:14.239 --> 00:56:17.119
I travel the world exploring haunted places, and no two98700:56:17.199 --> 00:56:20.679
locations are the same. Isn't that true of all things?98800:56:20.719 --> 00:56:22.280
No two places are the same.98900:56:22.519 --> 00:56:24.000
It should it should be at least.99000:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.480
People often assume that spirits are whole, But some of99100:56:28.480 --> 00:56:31.079
the ones I've seen are dismembered and disfigured.99200:56:32.840 --> 00:56:34.599
People assume spirits are whole.99300:56:35.119 --> 00:56:39.599
I don't know, I don't I'm completely confused by that. Yeah,99400:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.559
I've seen a floating severed head before, and a cat99500:56:42.639 --> 00:56:43.519
with no tail.99600:56:44.400 --> 00:56:47.159
Oh no, that's a tail. Maybe it didn't have a99700:56:47.199 --> 00:56:49.960
tail in life.99800:56:50.199 --> 00:56:54.679
So now we're animals have apparitions too.99900:56:55.079 --> 00:56:58.199
Are you saying you didn't know that animals had apparitions.100000:56:59.840 --> 00:57:01.880
I was not under I was under the impression that100100:57:01.920 --> 00:57:02.480
they did.100200:57:02.280 --> 00:57:06.719
Not really, huh, I don't I don't know why.100300:57:07.119 --> 00:57:08.760
I was under the impression that if you saw like100400:57:08.800 --> 00:57:13.719
an animal, like air quotes ghost, it was like like100500:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.639
it was not like the way a ghost is a person.100600:57:16.960 --> 00:57:19.599
It was like more like a I don't know, like100700:57:19.760 --> 00:57:24.119
aesthetic almost it was aesthetic. It was part of the100800:57:24.920 --> 00:57:26.000
human ghosts.100900:57:26.320 --> 00:57:30.000
Like, wow, that's really interesting. I've never heard that before.101000:57:30.159 --> 00:57:32.079
Yeah, that's that's my understanding. Like if you were in101100:57:32.079 --> 00:57:33.599
a house and like a dog came at you would101200:57:33.599 --> 00:57:36.079
because the guy who died there that dog was his101300:57:36.199 --> 00:57:39.719
dog or something. Although I did see Good Boy, which101400:57:39.760 --> 00:57:40.960
involves dog ghost.101500:57:41.159 --> 00:57:43.880
So yeah, I don't know. I mean I've heard I've101600:57:43.880 --> 00:57:46.719
heard of like, you know, like cat ghosts and stuff101700:57:46.719 --> 00:57:47.880
like that, So I don't know.101800:57:48.639 --> 00:57:50.280
I just feel like if we're going into that, then101900:57:50.280 --> 00:57:52.639
we're gonna just be maggoty with ghosts just everything.102000:57:53.039 --> 00:57:54.199
That's what she's saying.102100:57:55.360 --> 00:57:59.280
Ah, that would be good for her pocketbook. Oh the102200:57:59.320 --> 00:58:01.480
cat let out a shrill me out like it was102300:58:01.519 --> 00:58:07.360
in pain. Let's just do that. Yeah, in the desert,102400:58:08.000 --> 00:58:15.119
I even encountered something that didn't look human. H Does102500:58:15.159 --> 00:58:16.800
she mean like it looks like an alien?102600:58:17.320 --> 00:58:20.920
Or or was it so disfigured that it didn't look human?102700:58:20.960 --> 00:58:22.960
And that's really really mean to say.102800:58:23.360 --> 00:58:25.880
I wish she was like some some ghosts aren't idiots,102900:58:25.920 --> 00:58:29.079
they're just ugly. That would be really funny. What does103000:58:29.119 --> 00:58:32.239
this one? It's the places that have multiple spirits with103100:58:32.280 --> 00:58:35.639
different personalities that drain you, or when you have several103200:58:35.679 --> 00:58:40.039
ghosts with malevolent personalities battling for your attention, that's when103300:58:40.039 --> 00:58:45.960
you have to maintain control. In addition to her supernatural103400:58:46.039 --> 00:58:51.039
dispe air pursuits, Brocardi is also a talented musician, sharing103500:58:51.079 --> 00:58:54.079
her work on her website. I'm not mentioning it because103600:58:54.119 --> 00:58:57.039
if you really want it, you'll find it yourself. I103700:58:57.079 --> 00:58:59.119
don't know. Should we should we listen to her music103800:58:59.159 --> 00:59:01.880
and decide if it's idiot or just disfigured.103900:59:03.320 --> 00:59:04.480
I feel like that's mean.104000:59:04.840 --> 00:59:07.800
I mean, I don't mind, that's why. That's why, Yeah,104100:59:07.840 --> 00:59:09.239
she's mean to these poor ghosts.104200:59:09.320 --> 00:59:11.559
Like, I don't mind listening to her music, but I104300:59:11.599 --> 00:59:12.960
don't want to be mean about it.104400:59:14.400 --> 00:59:18.239
She recently dropped a new track titled feed My Soul104500:59:18.519 --> 00:59:20.280
featuring Ray Lucier.104600:59:19.920 --> 00:59:31.239
From Corn Oh really yeah, whoa.104700:59:27.960 --> 00:59:30.440
I'll never do that again on the show. Okay, So104800:59:33.239 --> 00:59:38.000
that's that's that. Yeah, that lady, her personality something to104900:59:38.039 --> 00:59:39.639
be desired for those poor ghosts.105000:59:40.199 --> 00:59:42.960
But I'm glad that she got more promotion from Marinacoda105100:59:43.079 --> 00:59:43.679
UK Like.105200:59:43.840 --> 00:59:46.360
Yeah, me too. And I hope Eduardo's okay, since I105300:59:46.360 --> 00:59:48.239
guess he was banished to the land of wind and105400:59:48.360 --> 00:59:51.519
ghosts but he wasn't fun anymore.105500:59:51.559 --> 00:59:54.400
So yeah, so it's okay. Yeah, yeah.105600:59:54.679 --> 00:59:59.280
Here's the story on a lighter note. CBS twelve dot105700:59:59.320 --> 01:00:03.719
com reports human remains discovered at lake Worth construction site105801:00:04.239 --> 01:00:08.159
hm Lakeworth, Florida. Human bones were dug up at a105901:00:08.199 --> 01:00:12.039
construction site on Monday. While construction crews were digging at106001:00:12.039 --> 01:00:14.840
the site, located on Davis Road, they found the bones.106101:00:14.920 --> 01:00:18.079
A spokesperson from the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office says106201:00:18.400 --> 01:00:22.519
the construction crews alerted deputies, who then contacted the medical examiner.106301:00:22.760 --> 01:00:25.920
A PbSO spokesperson said the bones on the property appeared106401:00:25.960 --> 01:00:29.400
to be a femur and pelvic bone. The examiner later106501:00:29.480 --> 01:00:35.920
confirmed the bones were human. Well, because you're having a106601:00:36.000 --> 01:00:38.360
rough week, a lot of these stories are at least106701:00:38.400 --> 01:00:43.320
somewhat related to real estate. Yay. A team from Florida106801:00:43.400 --> 01:00:46.840
Gulf Coast University responded to the scene and discovered additional bones,106901:00:47.159 --> 01:00:50.800
prompting a halt in construction as an investigation gets under way.107001:00:51.360 --> 01:00:54.400
Jacqueline Milby, who lives on Davis Road, took cell phone107101:00:54.480 --> 01:00:58.440
video after noticing several Palm Beach County Sheriff's cruisers lining107201:00:58.480 --> 01:01:01.320
the streets and a research team huddled around a table107301:01:01.360 --> 01:01:04.559
at the site. Quote. I've seen a lot of documentaries107401:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.079
and they're definitely looking at something on a big table107501:01:07.199 --> 01:01:11.679
and brushing thigs Off said. I love the local news.107601:01:11.760 --> 01:01:15.840
Don't ever change local news. Milby's ten year old son, Carter,107701:01:16.079 --> 01:01:19.440
also thought it was unusual. Quote, my mom was freaking107801:01:19.480 --> 01:01:22.039
out because she was like, look, look over there, and107901:01:22.119 --> 01:01:25.400
I saw cops surrounding this hole looking into it, he said.108001:01:26.079 --> 01:01:31.440
Eleana Aguier agera eight, and her mom, Angela Bryant, lived108101:01:31.639 --> 01:01:34.400
just a few doors down from the construction site. They108201:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.639
walked over to see what was going on. Quote, I've108301:01:37.679 --> 01:01:41.280
never heard someone find bones like in real life, Ageta said,108401:01:41.679 --> 01:01:44.440
it's kind of interesting. At least it's an eight year108501:01:44.480 --> 01:01:48.119
old girl. I mean, like, so I get that. Yeah,108601:01:48.199 --> 01:01:50.400
the construction site is believed to have been a location108701:01:50.559 --> 01:01:57.239
frequented by unhoused individuals. Oh, that's the that's the term108801:01:57.280 --> 01:01:58.239
we're using now. Huh.108901:01:58.360 --> 01:01:59.760
Yep, that's the term we're using now.109001:02:00.039 --> 01:02:01.480
I'm not trying to be edgy, but I think we109101:02:01.559 --> 01:02:04.599
need to go back to vagrant. I think vagrant is solid.109201:02:05.000 --> 01:02:05.280
Okay.109301:02:05.880 --> 01:02:07.880
I think people don't like vagrant because the V and109401:02:07.960 --> 01:02:09.280
the G make it sound mean.109501:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.800
It does sound mean, yeah, but I don't think it's109601:02:13.840 --> 01:02:15.679
a post to sound nice either.109701:02:16.039 --> 01:02:17.760
Well, it's not a good thing to be a vagrant,109801:02:17.800 --> 01:02:24.880
that's for sure. So yeah, at this time, it's unclear109901:02:24.920 --> 01:02:28.400
if the bones belong to one person or multiple, or110001:02:28.480 --> 01:02:30.920
how long they may have been there. At this point,110101:02:31.039 --> 01:02:35.039
investigators say there are no signs of foul play. Quote.110201:02:35.239 --> 01:02:37.800
I hope whoever it is, whomever the body parts are110301:02:37.920 --> 01:02:41.400
and bones, they get closure with their family, because that's110401:02:41.440 --> 01:02:45.280
still sad. Bryant said all recovered skeletal remains will be110501:02:45.280 --> 01:02:48.880
transported to Medical Examiner's office for further examination and identification,110601:02:49.400 --> 01:02:53.679
which could take some time. Another forensic team is set110701:02:53.719 --> 01:02:56.079
to come to the construction site on Wednesday to continue110801:02:56.079 --> 01:02:59.400
sifting the property. PbSO deputies will be out there at110901:02:59.440 --> 01:03:03.239
the scene through the night guarding the area. Mmm.111001:03:03.639 --> 01:03:04.920
Gott to guard the bones.111101:03:05.159 --> 01:03:07.719
Gotta bar it, gotta bart it, gotta guard it. H111201:03:09.360 --> 01:03:11.079
I should You're right, I should sleep more.111301:03:11.960 --> 01:03:13.480
Yeah.111401:03:13.719 --> 01:03:15.840
Uh. And there's only one comment on it, and it's111501:03:16.480 --> 01:03:21.320
like clinically insane person. So okay, Well, we're gonna take111601:03:21.320 --> 01:03:23.119
a quick break and when we get back, we're going111701:03:23.199 --> 01:03:28.440
to talk about another skeleton being found, possibly the most111801:03:28.559 --> 01:03:41.199
adorable skeleton you've ever seen? What right after this? All right,111901:03:41.320 --> 01:03:44.679
my spookies. I know Chell was rather perplexed by my112001:03:45.559 --> 01:03:52.679
teas before the break. Yeah about this adorable skeleton? Yeah,112101:03:52.760 --> 01:03:58.800
so have I piqued your curiosity? Well? Yeah, okay. So112201:03:58.920 --> 01:04:03.559
this is from Live science dot com and the headline112301:04:03.639 --> 01:04:08.480
is miniature skeleton a ghostly two thousand year old party112401:04:08.559 --> 01:04:17.360
favor from a Roman banquet. Oh look at him, he's adorable.112501:04:19.239 --> 01:04:22.280
He's really okay looking.112601:04:23.280 --> 01:04:26.239
This small bronze skeleton is one of only a dozen112701:04:26.360 --> 01:04:32.400
known examples of ancient Roman larva convivales. A banquet ghost112801:04:32.679 --> 01:04:38.719
figurine given out as a party favor two thousand years ago. Wow,112901:04:39.480 --> 01:04:42.639
must have been a big party if it's bronze party favors, right,113001:04:42.760 --> 01:04:46.880
really bronze. I mean, like, I don't know how much113101:04:46.880 --> 01:04:49.400
bronze is worth, but I know metalworking.113201:04:48.800 --> 01:04:51.280
Is hard, Yeah, exactly so.113301:04:51.320 --> 01:04:52.840
But look at him. He's pretty cool. He's got like113401:04:52.880 --> 01:04:57.119
really big teeth and eyes. He's missing most of his limbs,113501:04:57.199 --> 01:04:57.679
but you.113601:04:57.599 --> 01:05:00.000
Know that's nobody's hard to make those.113701:05:01.199 --> 01:05:03.320
It would be hard and for them to survive two113801:05:03.400 --> 01:05:08.920
thousand years. Let's see. The skeleton originally had jointed arms113901:05:08.920 --> 01:05:11.280
and legs, but only a portion of its left leg114001:05:11.360 --> 01:05:15.719
remains today. Its skull features large, round eye sockets and114101:05:15.760 --> 01:05:20.000
a toothy grin. The bronze figurine measures roughly two point114201:05:20.159 --> 01:05:24.039
six inches or six point six centimeters in height and114301:05:24.199 --> 01:05:27.960
is in the collection of Getty Via in Los Angeles, California.114401:05:28.639 --> 01:05:32.159
According to a nineteen eighty study by then Getty curator114501:05:32.360 --> 01:05:36.400
Faja Kousi Frell, the skeleton was a kind of memento moriri,114601:05:36.880 --> 01:05:40.280
a symbol of the brevity of life and the inevitability114701:05:40.679 --> 01:05:41.320
of death.114801:05:42.639 --> 01:05:44.840
I mean even that. Or someone was like, you should114901:05:44.880 --> 01:05:47.880
see I made these really cool little skeletons. It was115001:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.199
so hard, I'm giving out people.115101:05:51.320 --> 01:05:54.679
The spooky skeletons were probably handed out at dinner parties115201:05:55.000 --> 01:05:59.159
in a nod to Epicureanism, the philosophical system that considered115301:05:59.840 --> 01:06:02.960
the considered that because death is human's main fear, we115401:06:03.000 --> 01:06:07.480
should take pleasure in what life has to offer. I115501:06:07.480 --> 01:06:08.360
feel like you're opposed.115601:06:08.400 --> 01:06:13.039
You're like, no, I mean yeah, I don't think we115701:06:13.039 --> 01:06:16.440
should take pleasure in anything. Just be worried about stuff,115801:06:16.719 --> 01:06:18.440
because that's what you're supposed to do.115901:06:19.599 --> 01:06:28.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah, according to you. Yeah, it's fair, fair point.116001:06:30.599 --> 01:06:34.280
Banqueting and death were often linked in Roman art and literature,116101:06:34.360 --> 01:06:37.480
According to the Getty. In the novel The Satyr Khan,116201:06:37.880 --> 01:06:42.000
written in the late first century AD by Petronius, a man,116301:06:43.159 --> 01:06:46.039
a Petronius, that's his whole name, okay, fine, a man116401:06:46.119 --> 01:06:50.119
named Trimalchio was hosting a dinner party. The narrator tells116501:06:50.119 --> 01:06:55.760
of a quote slave of quote, a slave bringing in116601:06:56.119 --> 01:06:59.960
a silver skeleton so contrived that the joints and movable116701:07:00.119 --> 01:07:03.360
vertebrae could be turned in any direction. I threw it116801:07:03.440 --> 01:07:05.599
down upon the table a time or two, and its116901:07:05.639 --> 01:07:10.760
mobile articulation caused it to assume grotesque attitude.117001:07:11.480 --> 01:07:14.000
People are so weird, so their.117101:07:13.840 --> 01:07:17.079
Game was like dropping it on the tip of whoa117201:07:16.599 --> 01:07:25.440
who like that? Whoa. I'm glad we've come so much117301:07:25.480 --> 01:07:31.639
further haha swiping through cat videos. Yeah, tremulcio. The host117401:07:32.000 --> 01:07:35.639
then exclaims that quote, this skeleton before us here is117501:07:35.679 --> 01:07:39.159
as important as we ever were. Let's live then while117601:07:39.199 --> 01:07:45.840
we may, and life is dear. All right, you're completely117701:07:45.920 --> 01:07:46.840
unmoved by this.117801:07:47.239 --> 01:07:49.760
I'm sorry. It's not not like it's a real skeleton.117901:07:49.840 --> 01:07:52.760
It's just some pieces of metal. It's not it's not118001:07:52.800 --> 01:07:55.800
as important as we ever were. Or I'm not sure118101:07:55.800 --> 01:07:58.320
if that means that we're really important or it means118201:07:58.320 --> 01:08:00.639
that we're not really important.118301:08:01.519 --> 01:08:05.079
Hmmm, yeah, I'll give you that one. I don't know. Yeah,118401:08:06.199 --> 01:08:10.719
the getdy example of the banquent ghost lacks scientific accuracy. Quote,118501:08:11.079 --> 01:08:14.440
it was perhaps more important that the bony specters were118601:08:14.519 --> 01:08:21.279
lively causey Frell wrote, Okay, yeah, well that's a spooky,118701:08:21.319 --> 01:08:26.319
scary skeleton that sends shivers up your spine. Yeah. Wow,118801:08:26.359 --> 01:08:28.840
it is wild to think it was probably made between118901:08:28.880 --> 01:08:31.479
twenty five BC and one hundred AD. That's just nuts119001:08:31.520 --> 01:08:35.279
to think about. Yeah, it's nuts to think about. If119101:08:35.319 --> 01:08:37.000
you wanted to go back to two thousand and two,119201:08:37.239 --> 01:08:39.439
that would be like Marty McFly going back to nineteen119301:08:39.520 --> 01:08:43.159
fifty five and back to the future. Oh god, yeah. Yeah.119401:08:43.199 --> 01:08:44.960
People get mad at me when I point stuff like119501:08:45.000 --> 01:08:47.800
that out. I do it a lot. Oh yeah, yeah119601:08:47.920 --> 01:08:51.720
yeah that one hurt yeah a little. Then yeah, yeah,119701:08:51.840 --> 01:08:53.720
Rachel gets mad because I point that out a lot.119801:08:54.239 --> 01:08:55.760
She'd be like, I did that back in high school, like,119901:08:55.800 --> 01:08:57.159
oh yeah, thirty years ago.120001:08:57.439 --> 01:08:58.000
Oh god.120101:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.279
She's like thanks for that, and I'm like, no, I'm120201:09:00.279 --> 01:09:05.600
always here to help. So, speaking of museums of value, cell,120301:09:05.720 --> 01:09:08.560
first of all, you like museums, right, they're okay, you120401:09:08.600 --> 01:09:11.520
go to a lot of museums. No, but you have120501:09:11.560 --> 01:09:15.600
a lot of museums in and around Philly. But do120601:09:15.720 --> 01:09:19.000
you have a hair museum?120701:09:19.640 --> 01:09:21.920
I hope so well.120801:09:22.039 --> 01:09:26.359
huffingtonPost dot COM's article says Missouri Hair Museum is closing.120901:09:27.039 --> 01:09:35.840
No trest collection to be scattered around us, Like, no independence, Missouri,121001:09:36.640 --> 01:09:40.199
that's what mo is. Yeah, Missouri, da century old wreaths121101:09:40.279 --> 01:09:44.159
made from human hair fill the walls of Layla's hair Museum,121201:09:44.600 --> 01:09:48.880
and glass cases overflow with necklaces and watch bands woven121301:09:49.159 --> 01:09:54.079
from the locks of the dead. Oh oh, Now it121401:09:54.199 --> 01:09:55.159
bothers you because they're dead.121501:09:55.840 --> 01:09:59.079
No, it bothers me because their hair is being used121601:09:59.079 --> 01:10:01.640
to make things. I thought we could just see hair121701:10:01.880 --> 01:10:03.199
and be excited about it.121801:10:03.760 --> 01:10:05.600
That's what you're mad about. You were like, I just121901:10:05.640 --> 01:10:08.560
wanted to look at the hair. Yeah, so commercial. It122001:10:08.640 --> 01:10:11.119
used to be about the hair man exactly.122101:10:11.199 --> 01:10:14.439
I don't need it made into things.122201:10:15.600 --> 01:10:17.960
Kids these days need the hair woven into things. When122301:10:17.960 --> 01:10:20.520
I was growing up, we were just happy to see hair.122401:10:21.760 --> 01:10:29.600
Damn it. I you scare me sometimes, Cell. We'll learn122501:10:29.640 --> 01:10:32.600
more about this hair museum and hopefully know more about122601:10:32.840 --> 01:10:47.000
Chell's opinions on hair after this. So this hair museum, Yeah,122701:10:47.119 --> 01:10:49.680
I don't know. I'm not that grossed out by human122801:10:49.720 --> 01:10:50.920
hair in general. What about you?122901:10:51.159 --> 01:10:53.880
Oh, I'm not grossed out by hair. I just want123001:10:53.920 --> 01:10:55.760
it displayed in its normal state.123101:10:57.520 --> 01:10:59.520
I ever tell you about my mom went to beauty school?123201:10:59.520 --> 01:10:59.960
To ever tell you?123301:11:00.439 --> 01:11:01.119
I don't think so.123401:11:01.520 --> 01:11:04.359
Yeah, my mom went to a year of beauty school. Wow,123501:11:04.560 --> 01:11:07.319
and that's when she learned that touching other people's hair123601:11:07.600 --> 01:11:08.479
disgusts her.123701:11:08.880 --> 01:11:11.520
Fuck yeah, yeah I could. I could. I could see that.123801:11:11.800 --> 01:11:14.279
Yeah, I love that because when she told me that,123901:11:14.359 --> 01:11:16.039
I was like, well, I mean that would stop you124001:11:16.560 --> 01:11:20.000
mm hmm. That's what I learned that exactly. That job124101:11:20.239 --> 01:11:24.399
made me want to vomit the end. Uh. There are124201:11:24.439 --> 01:11:30.359
also tresses purported to have come from past presidents Hollywood124301:11:30.439 --> 01:11:39.319
legend Marilyn Monroe, okay, and even Jesus. Why that will124401:11:39.359 --> 01:11:40.079
make you laugh.124501:11:42.800 --> 01:11:45.520
I don't. I don't think they have Jesus' hair.124601:11:46.439 --> 01:11:50.439
I'm leaning toward now. Yeah, if you could see the124701:11:50.479 --> 01:11:56.439
hair of any president, which would it be, I don't know.124801:11:57.760 --> 01:12:00.399
I felt like you'd have this just ready, you'd be like, oh, obviously,124901:12:00.399 --> 01:12:03.279
Calvin Coolidge. I thought you'd just be ready. No.125001:12:03.680 --> 01:12:06.840
Sorry, I don't really think about president's hair very much.125101:12:07.279 --> 01:12:10.079
Oh okay, I don't know what you do on the125201:12:10.119 --> 01:12:14.600
weekends then, because that's my that's my move. So for125301:12:14.640 --> 01:12:17.760
about thirty years, this hair art collection in the Kansas125401:12:17.760 --> 01:12:22.199
City suburb of Independence attracted an eclectic group of gawkers125501:12:22.199 --> 01:12:26.079
that included the likes of heavy metal legend Ozzy Osbourne.125601:12:26.680 --> 01:12:30.760
He did have hair, he did have hair. Yeah, yeah,125701:12:30.760 --> 01:12:32.800
and he passed away recently. I wonder if he did125801:12:32.880 --> 01:12:34.000
donate any hair to there.125901:12:35.720 --> 01:12:36.159
I don't know.126001:12:37.560 --> 01:12:40.079
I'm wondering where this where they're obtaining this hair.126101:12:41.359 --> 01:12:44.000
I assume someone just goes around and cuts it off126201:12:44.039 --> 01:12:45.520
people when they're not looking.126301:12:46.239 --> 01:12:47.119
I mean, I would hope.126401:12:47.600 --> 01:12:49.039
Yeah.126501:12:49.319 --> 01:12:54.960
But the museum's namesake, Layla cal Kohoun, died last November126601:12:55.000 --> 01:12:58.840
at the age of ninety two. Oh wow, so hair126701:12:58.960 --> 01:13:04.079
keeps you young. Now, her granddaughter, Lindsay Evans, is busy126801:13:04.159 --> 01:13:10.279
rehoming the collection of more than three thousand pieces Wow126901:13:10.640 --> 01:13:15.800
to museums across the country, including the Metropolitan Museum of127001:13:15.920 --> 01:13:18.479
Art in New York and the National Museum of Women127101:13:18.520 --> 01:13:21.800
in the Arts in Washington, DC. You're not that far127201:13:21.840 --> 01:13:26.039
from either of those. I'm not, no quote. Every time127301:13:26.079 --> 01:13:29.039
I come here, I feel her here, Evans said Monday,127401:13:29.079 --> 01:13:32.560
while touring with representatives of the National Museum of Funeral127501:13:32.640 --> 01:13:38.039
History in Houston, who left with around thirty pieces. Yeah,127601:13:38.079 --> 01:13:40.319
this place is her. Oh sorry, what I.127701:13:40.279 --> 01:13:42.359
Was just thinking when she said I feel her here127801:13:42.800 --> 01:13:46.479
that it was a misquote.127901:13:47.560 --> 01:13:50.000
Now I know why you were laughing. So I thought128001:13:50.000 --> 01:13:52.800
you were just laughing at someone morning their loved one.128101:13:52.960 --> 01:13:59.920
I was like, here comes spicy Michelle Boom, vicious, fatalent.128201:14:03.479 --> 01:14:06.359
This place is her and so I feel like this128301:14:06.479 --> 01:14:09.319
process of rehoming her collection has helped me grieve her128401:14:09.399 --> 01:14:12.239
in a way that I didn't even realize I needed.128501:14:13.119 --> 01:14:16.439
That's really sweet. Actually I could see that though. If128601:14:16.560 --> 01:14:19.159
like you have a loved one's life's work and getting128701:14:19.199 --> 01:14:22.960
to meet people from like all over the world that128801:14:23.079 --> 01:14:26.199
want a little piece of it for their what they're doing,128901:14:26.319 --> 01:14:31.800
it could really feel special. Yeah, so that's kind of awesome. Actually,129001:14:32.920 --> 01:14:38.119
it all started in nineteen fifty six when Kohoon, a hairdresser,129101:14:40.600 --> 01:14:45.159
was shopping was shopping for Easter shoes. Where is this going?129201:14:46.039 --> 01:14:50.119
Inside an antique store, she found a gold frame filled129301:14:50.119 --> 01:14:53.640
with strands of hair twisted in the shape of flowers.129401:14:56.079 --> 01:15:00.079
Quote she said, forget the Easter shoes. Evan said, my129501:15:00.119 --> 01:15:03.039
granddad always said that this was the most expensive piece129601:15:03.079 --> 01:15:06.319
of the museum because look at what it started. That's funny.129701:15:08.960 --> 01:15:14.079
Evans is keeping that one for herself. That's really sweet. Actually, yeah,129801:15:14.279 --> 01:15:17.840
I mean I find it. I find it like soft129901:15:17.880 --> 01:15:23.119
morbid human hair stuff. I find that soft morbid. It's morbid,130001:15:23.119 --> 01:15:25.079
but it's not like I wouldn't be if somebody said130101:15:25.119 --> 01:15:27.039
I have a collection of human hair, I would be130201:15:27.600 --> 01:15:29.640
I would like a little more information, but I wouldn't130301:15:29.640 --> 01:15:33.479
immediately just be like bye, yeah, like as opposed to if130401:15:33.439 --> 01:15:35.920
they said, like, I collect like human bones, I would130501:15:35.920 --> 01:15:39.039
be like, what the hell are you talking about? You know,130601:15:39.079 --> 01:15:40.399
it'd be a lot more questions.130701:15:40.880 --> 01:15:42.359
Yeah, yeah, but.130801:15:42.359 --> 01:15:44.920
With human hair, I'd be like, uh, how did you130901:15:44.960 --> 01:15:48.479
get into that? And hopefully then it would I'd still131001:15:48.520 --> 01:15:52.119
be a little weird. Okay, you know what, it's still weird, Yeah, weird.131101:15:52.720 --> 01:15:57.319
This form of art peaked in popularity in the mid131201:15:57.359 --> 01:16:00.439
eighteen hundreds, as women coiled the hair of the dead131301:16:00.600 --> 01:16:04.880
into jewelry or told their family history by intertwining the131401:16:04.920 --> 01:16:10.680
curls of blood loved ones into wreaths. I feel like131501:16:10.720 --> 01:16:17.359
we've we've kind of switched that in our culture, Like131601:16:17.439 --> 01:16:19.239
did you have a piece of hair in your baby book?131701:16:19.359 --> 01:16:22.199
Or you're like stuff from when you're a baby.131801:16:22.920 --> 01:16:25.000
Maybe I actually think I might have some of my131901:16:25.079 --> 01:16:26.000
grandmother's hair.132001:16:26.560 --> 01:16:27.079
Oh really?132101:16:27.520 --> 01:16:30.680
Yeah? Or someone does, because.132201:16:30.520 --> 01:16:34.119
I know that in my family, keeping a lock of132301:16:34.159 --> 01:16:36.119
hair from when you were a child is normal.132401:16:37.239 --> 01:16:39.319
Yeah I don't know. Yeah, well, and.132501:16:39.359 --> 01:16:41.359
We have a lot of those things where like they've132601:16:41.359 --> 01:16:43.680
become a little bit softer, a little bit less morbid132701:16:43.920 --> 01:16:48.600
over time, probably coinciding with when we stopped doing funerals132801:16:48.840 --> 01:16:53.920
in your literal house. Yeah, and changed the name to132901:16:54.000 --> 01:16:56.000
the living room to be a real dick to the133001:16:56.039 --> 01:17:03.279
dead people. The living room, it ain't the parlor no more. Yeah,133101:17:04.439 --> 01:17:07.239
now I'm going to exercise you because we're getting divorced.133201:17:09.920 --> 01:17:12.159
But hair art had fallen out of favor by the133301:17:12.279 --> 01:17:15.319
nineteen forties as memories were Oh that makes sense, as133401:17:15.359 --> 01:17:17.760
memories were captured in photos.133501:17:19.079 --> 01:17:21.319
I could see that hair photos.133601:17:21.399 --> 01:17:22.319
You could tape it right on.133701:17:22.680 --> 01:17:26.960
You could make a frame with hair.133801:17:27.520 --> 01:17:36.479
Oh, that's delightful, Evans said. Additionally, quote this artwork was133901:17:36.479 --> 01:17:39.880
not celebrated because it was mostly done by women, and134001:17:39.920 --> 01:17:42.600
so in larger museums they don't have a lot of this.134101:17:43.479 --> 01:17:46.720
Her grandmother saved some from being trashed, wrote a book134201:17:46.800 --> 01:17:49.800
and taught classes on the art form, training a new134301:17:49.880 --> 01:17:54.880
generation of artists. Oh. Often the hair art was housed134401:17:54.880 --> 01:17:58.399
in elaborate frames with original glass. So when her grandmother134501:17:58.479 --> 01:18:02.319
started haggling with antiques dealers for the frames, they frequently134601:18:02.399 --> 01:18:05.520
offered to get rid of the hair. I could see that, yeah,134701:18:05.560 --> 01:18:10.239
and she'd say, no, no, keep it in there, Evan said.134801:18:10.600 --> 01:18:13.399
Then her grandmother would often hand them her business card134901:18:13.399 --> 01:18:16.319
and tell them to be on the lookout. Soon dealers135001:18:16.359 --> 01:18:20.000
across the country were calling, quote if it had hair,135101:18:20.279 --> 01:18:22.840
she got it, said Evans. I love the story, actually,135201:18:22.880 --> 01:18:26.600
I really do. Who sometimes accompanied her grandmother as she135301:18:26.720 --> 01:18:30.199
hunted for new additions. The collection grew to include a135401:18:30.199 --> 01:18:33.000
wreath containing hair from every woman in the League of135501:18:33.000 --> 01:18:37.439
Women Voters from Vermont. In eighteen sixty five, Wow, a135601:18:37.479 --> 01:18:40.800
pair of crescent shaped wreaths contained the tresses of two135701:18:40.840 --> 01:18:44.079
sisters whose heads were shaved when they entered a convent.135801:18:45.520 --> 01:18:49.479
These are really interesting. Yeah, A couple of pieces even135901:18:49.560 --> 01:18:55.840
feature taxidermy. Oh, I mean sure, I guess that checks out.136001:18:57.840 --> 01:19:02.119
But we'll find out more about that when we get back.136101:19:09.680 --> 01:19:11.520
What do you do with your hair, Michelle? When you136201:19:11.560 --> 01:19:12.279
when you cut.136301:19:12.119 --> 01:19:17.119
It, I throw it away.136401:19:17.239 --> 01:19:19.039
You could do so much with it because you got136501:19:19.039 --> 01:19:19.600
the dreads.136601:19:19.960 --> 01:19:22.920
Actually, at one point when I cut my hair, because136701:19:22.960 --> 01:19:26.720
I don't really cut it very often anymore, but at136801:19:26.720 --> 01:19:29.279
one point I cut my hair and a bunch of136901:19:29.319 --> 01:19:32.159
people wanted some of it, so I gave it to them.137001:19:32.520 --> 01:19:33.760
Who are these people?137101:19:34.199 --> 01:19:40.319
I don't know. I don't remember what anybody who said137201:19:40.359 --> 01:19:42.079
they wanted it. I just gave it to them.137301:19:42.199 --> 01:19:45.399
They just walked up. You had cast some of your hair. No, no, it.137401:19:45.399 --> 01:19:49.399
Was like through like Facebook and stuff, the Facebook marketplace.137501:19:52.199 --> 01:19:53.920
You just want some of my hair? And that was137601:19:54.239 --> 01:19:56.399
all I said, Just do.137701:19:56.319 --> 01:19:57.920
You want some of my hair? And then it just137801:19:57.920 --> 01:20:04.560
says no, weirdos. Yeah, the frames filled. You know, I137901:20:05.000 --> 01:20:07.000
can't believe. I just remembered this as we were talking.138001:20:07.000 --> 01:20:10.920
When I did my second album, I gave people vials138101:20:10.960 --> 01:20:13.199
of my hair if you bought the collector's pack.138201:20:13.640 --> 01:20:15.199
Yeah, I think I kind of remember that.138301:20:15.720 --> 01:20:16.359
Yeah.138401:20:16.439 --> 01:20:19.520
Yeah, so we both have hair out there doing stuff.138501:20:20.079 --> 01:20:20.600
Damn right.138601:20:20.920 --> 01:20:23.960
I hope they just threw mine away because they got138701:20:23.960 --> 01:20:24.920
grossed out by it.138801:20:25.840 --> 01:20:28.439
I told people they had like a all they needed138901:20:28.520 --> 01:20:30.000
was a piece of string and they had an instant139001:20:30.039 --> 01:20:31.920
stalker kit. They could wear it around their neck like139101:20:31.920 --> 01:20:37.640
a yeah yee. The frames filled the walls of her139201:20:37.640 --> 01:20:40.199
home and the beauty school she ran with her husband.139301:20:40.680 --> 01:20:43.760
She shoved them under beds and in closets. Eventually, the139401:20:43.800 --> 01:20:47.640
couple snatched up this building, a former car dealership nestled139501:20:47.640 --> 01:20:51.159
between a fast food restaurant and a car wash. Celebrities139601:20:51.199 --> 01:20:54.520
caught wind of the attraction. Oh I love this. Actress139701:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.199
and comedian Phyllis Diller donated a hair wreath that she139801:20:57.239 --> 01:20:59.640
had had, that she had been or that had been139901:20:59.640 --> 01:21:04.680
in her family for generations. Wow, that's so cool TV personality.140001:21:04.800 --> 01:21:10.000
Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs filled an episode of Somebody's140101:21:10.039 --> 01:21:13.479
Got to Do It at that store. There might also140201:21:13.520 --> 01:21:16.079
be a few strands from Osborne inside. When he came140301:21:16.079 --> 01:21:19.119
to visit, Kohoun snipped a lock, although Evans has yet140401:21:19.159 --> 01:21:22.319
to find it. I hope he she didn't. I hope140501:21:22.319 --> 01:21:25.920
he didn't even know. She just does that if you140601:21:25.960 --> 01:21:28.800
catch her, like, oh she she does that like it's140701:21:28.920 --> 01:21:31.119
there's a sign when you walk in it says that140801:21:31.119 --> 01:21:36.039
that can happen, and you're okay with it, said, yeah,140901:21:36.079 --> 01:21:38.520
you signed the release, damn it. I love When I141001:21:38.560 --> 01:21:40.000
went to the I'll talk about this more at the141101:21:40.479 --> 01:21:42.119
when we're wrapping up the show. But I went to141201:21:42.159 --> 01:21:45.399
the Big Haunt over the weekend and they have this141301:21:45.439 --> 01:21:47.079
big sign before you know the Haunts that says like141401:21:47.359 --> 01:21:50.640
by entering here, you uh, you know, give up this141501:21:50.680 --> 01:21:52.520
and these rights to this and this and this. I'm like, yeah,141601:21:52.520 --> 01:21:54.560
that would never hold up in court for years. A141701:21:54.640 --> 01:21:57.000
thing on the back wall when you're walking in no chance,141801:21:57.359 --> 01:22:03.279
No chance, Evan said. Her grandmother was tight lipped on141901:22:03.359 --> 01:22:06.319
what she spent over the years, but she anticipates the142001:22:06.359 --> 01:22:09.520
worth of the art may top one million dollars.142101:22:09.840 --> 01:22:10.399
Wow.142201:22:11.760 --> 01:22:14.520
As Genevieve Kiny, the head of the National Museum of142301:22:14.520 --> 01:22:18.560
Funeral History in Houston, waded through the collection, I hope142401:22:18.560 --> 01:22:21.359
that's figurative and not like just like up to their knees.142501:22:21.680 --> 01:22:23.159
Yeah, they're just hair everywhere.142601:22:24.119 --> 01:22:28.359
She eagerly eyed the jewelry that memorialized the dead, including142701:22:28.399 --> 01:22:30.880
a small pin containing the locks of a seven year142801:22:30.880 --> 01:22:33.279
old girl who died in eighteen eleven.142901:22:33.800 --> 01:22:34.199
Wow.143001:22:35.000 --> 01:22:37.920
Quote. I've always felt it was important to educate people143101:22:37.960 --> 01:22:42.479
about death, said KINI also a licensed mortician. Quote. Our143201:22:42.560 --> 01:22:45.960
society does such an injustice on getting people to understand143301:22:46.000 --> 01:22:48.720
what the true emotions are going to feel like when143401:22:48.760 --> 01:22:52.600
death happens. That's why you get the kid of goldfish.143501:22:53.199 --> 01:22:57.079
Yeah. I mean, I don't think you can prepare somebody143601:22:57.279 --> 01:23:00.680
for that. I don't think that there's a way, so143701:23:00.800 --> 01:23:02.640
I wouldn't worry too much about it.143801:23:02.960 --> 01:23:06.680
I do think in a very broad way. Pets are143901:23:07.279 --> 01:23:11.000
in a lot of ways, like training wheels for understanding144001:23:11.039 --> 01:23:14.279
life and death. You know, you lose a cat when144101:23:14.319 --> 01:23:18.319
you're twelve years old, and then you know a grandparent144201:23:18.359 --> 01:23:21.680
when you're twenty. It just kind of you know, it's144301:23:21.760 --> 01:23:27.279
not the same, but it's similar. Yeah, Evans herself is144401:23:27.319 --> 01:23:30.359
struggling with a mix of emotions as she slowly rehomes144501:23:30.399 --> 01:23:33.760
her grandmother's legacy. Quote. I want people to see all144601:23:33.800 --> 01:23:36.600
of this because that's what she wanted. But when this144701:23:36.760 --> 01:23:41.000
is empty, it'll break my heart a little bit. That's144801:23:41.039 --> 01:23:43.840
a wonderful note to end that story on Good job144901:23:43.920 --> 01:23:46.680
Huffington Post. That was like the perfect balance of heartfelt145001:23:46.720 --> 01:23:47.319
and creepy.145101:23:47.800 --> 01:23:49.880
Yeah.145201:23:50.159 --> 01:23:53.439
I really like that. So let's ruin the good vibes145301:23:53.479 --> 01:23:56.319
by heading back to Mirror dot Code at UK yay.145401:23:57.840 --> 01:24:00.640
The headline is I'm a funeral director and these are145501:24:00.680 --> 01:24:03.760
the chilling experiences I've had to work. I've had at work.145601:24:06.560 --> 01:24:06.920
What what?145701:24:08.279 --> 01:24:11.159
I just don't believe it's scary to be a funeral director.145801:24:11.520 --> 01:24:12.920
Well, the funny thing is I had to check. I145901:24:12.920 --> 01:24:15.439
thought we'd read this before, but I was another like146001:24:16.239 --> 01:24:19.920
morge worker that we read about. If there's any ex146101:24:20.840 --> 01:24:23.880
profession you'd expect might have come across a ghostly encounter,146201:24:24.119 --> 01:24:27.119
be a funeral director, right. That hasn't been strictly the case,146301:24:27.159 --> 01:24:30.439
according to one man in the profession, however, Social media's146401:24:30.560 --> 01:24:35.920
Yorkshire funeral director, Jacob Walsh, who's based in Ghoulie, East146501:24:35.960 --> 01:24:38.680
Riding of Yorkshire, took to TikTok to open up on146601:24:38.720 --> 01:24:46.600
his experiences with the paranormal in his workplace. Huh yeah,146701:24:47.279 --> 01:24:53.520
news is TikTok. Yeah, ghosts Have I seen them? Have146801:24:53.640 --> 01:24:56.760
I experienced them? He asked rhetorically in a video. I146901:24:56.880 --> 01:25:00.000
felt a presence usually in the mortuary, which is completely147001:25:00.199 --> 01:25:03.439
understandable as it's where people in my care are resting.147101:25:07.119 --> 01:25:09.520
I don't want my mortician to have that level of147201:25:09.600 --> 01:25:14.159
like boobity boop, like just just like just rip up147301:25:14.159 --> 01:25:15.119
the body and move on.147401:25:15.880 --> 01:25:19.359
Okay, fine, fine, fine, I'll get you there. I'll get147501:25:19.399 --> 01:25:20.640
you the right one then.147601:25:20.600 --> 01:25:21.000
Thank you.147701:25:21.600 --> 01:25:22.279
Yeah.147801:25:22.359 --> 01:25:25.880
Jacob admitted that initially he put his chilling experiences down147901:25:25.920 --> 01:25:28.279
to the fact he works late into the day, by148001:25:28.319 --> 01:25:31.439
which point he's tired. More and more things happen, though,148101:25:31.520 --> 01:25:32.960
prompting him to have a rethink.148201:25:34.239 --> 01:25:36.600
I almost feel like we read this before. It sounds148301:25:36.600 --> 01:25:38.960
really late into the day.148401:25:39.199 --> 01:25:43.039
Yeah yeah, yeah, but this one's shorter too, all right, whatever,148501:25:45.359 --> 01:25:48.359
uh where is it? So? And now I was scanning148601:25:48.399 --> 01:25:49.840
it because I was like, did we read this before?148701:25:49.880 --> 01:25:53.279
Maybe we did. I try not to do that. It's hard.148801:25:53.439 --> 01:25:53.920
It's hard.148901:25:54.000 --> 01:25:58.279
It's the fortieth episode. Yeah, yeah, that Even when he's149001:25:58.319 --> 01:26:01.720
doing personal care, such as sha deceased gentleman, he tells149101:26:01.760 --> 01:26:04.840
them what he's doing out of respect. So if they're149201:26:04.880 --> 01:26:07.199
watching over us, that's fine. We just don't know what's149301:26:07.239 --> 01:26:08.920
in the afterlife and I'm not here to tell you149401:26:09.000 --> 01:26:13.199
what I think there is. Or isn't it much shorter?149501:26:13.600 --> 01:26:15.560
So maybe maybe it was like a I don't know,149601:26:15.600 --> 01:26:17.119
but I tried. I checked it and it wasn't the149701:26:17.159 --> 01:26:21.399
same page. Hum, I'm a bad I'm a bad host.149801:26:21.640 --> 01:26:24.600
That's what it came down to. Yeah, it was really short. Wow,149901:26:25.279 --> 01:26:27.359
I skipped like two or three things, but like that150001:26:27.399 --> 01:26:30.119
were really brief. But like, yeah, it was a lot150101:26:30.119 --> 01:26:35.439
of pictures though, of a guy filming himself on TikTok ah.150201:26:35.479 --> 01:26:39.720
I love the news. Well, we're gonna come back and150301:26:39.760 --> 01:26:41.479
do We'll do just a few more news stories. I150401:26:41.479 --> 01:26:43.840
fear we go a little longer than normal, just because150501:26:43.840 --> 01:26:47.560
it's the Halloween season. Yeah, but uh oh no, Shell's150601:26:47.560 --> 01:26:48.199
like please, no.150701:26:48.800 --> 01:26:49.319
It's okay.150801:26:50.079 --> 01:26:52.520
Oh god, it's even worse than I imagined by the way150901:26:52.600 --> 01:26:56.199
you said that. Oh no, but when we get back,151001:26:57.079 --> 01:27:00.279
you'll be happy to hear more human remains are being out.151101:27:01.000 --> 01:27:05.399
I know about human remains being found recently, but it's sad.151201:27:05.880 --> 01:27:09.399
Yay, it's usually sad. I just thought I thought you'd151301:27:09.399 --> 01:27:10.399
be excited.151401:27:10.000 --> 01:27:11.399
But I am excited.151501:27:12.680 --> 01:27:23.079
Well, we'll get to that right after this. We're back151601:27:23.239 --> 01:27:29.920
and we have a news story from Smithsonian magazine. Oh,151701:27:30.000 --> 01:27:38.640
because we're fancy. I guess we're fancy. No, sorry. Pal151801:27:39.239 --> 01:27:43.760
Archaeologists in Albania unearthed tomb belonging to an upper class151901:27:43.880 --> 01:27:48.600
Roman who died one thousand and seven hundred years ago.152001:27:49.079 --> 01:27:50.520
Wow, that's a while ago.152101:27:50.640 --> 01:27:56.479
I guess that's that's a while back. Yeah, when photos152201:27:56.479 --> 01:27:57.479
were in black and white.152301:27:57.840 --> 01:28:04.119
Yeah, silent TV.152401:28:04.840 --> 01:28:11.159
Yeah, silent tell that's funny, silent TV. I like that.152501:28:11.840 --> 01:28:15.079
Archaeologists have an earth a rare Roman mausoleum in the152601:28:15.079 --> 01:28:18.479
northeastern part of Albania. They think it may have belonged152701:28:18.479 --> 01:28:22.520
to an upper class individual named Galiano, who lived in152801:28:22.560 --> 01:28:26.800
the ancient Roman province of iler Curium up to one152901:28:26.840 --> 01:28:31.079
hundred or one thousand, seven hundred years ago. Romans Roman153001:28:31.159 --> 01:28:34.000
is weird, her names are weird.153101:28:34.520 --> 01:28:36.119
I don't think about Rome very much.153201:28:36.960 --> 01:28:39.279
That's because you're a girl. Men think about Rome all153301:28:39.359 --> 01:28:42.039
the time. I know the thing, well, the Roman Empire,153401:28:42.079 --> 01:28:45.119
they don't think about like Rome as it is today. Yeah,153501:28:45.159 --> 01:28:47.600
that's for middle aged women to like imagine like if153601:28:47.640 --> 01:28:50.800
I go there, I'll meet a guy, a swarthy guy.153701:28:50.960 --> 01:28:53.479
I've heard that. I've heard that joke before that said,153801:28:53.520 --> 01:28:58.000
remember middle aged women go to Italy for the same153901:28:58.039 --> 01:29:03.119
reason middle aged men go to Thailand. Okay, yeah, yeah,154001:29:04.000 --> 01:29:08.920
so judge. Accordingly, the site is the first Roman era154101:29:09.079 --> 01:29:13.479
monumental tomb to be discovered in the country. No, that's154201:29:13.520 --> 01:29:21.600
really interesting. According to a statement from Blendie Blendi, Gonsha Gounzja,154301:29:21.720 --> 01:29:26.039
it's Gonsh, It's go n x Hja. Oh, I don't154401:29:26.039 --> 01:29:29.119
know gonz Ha. Is that Chinese? I think that's Chinese, right,154501:29:31.159 --> 01:29:35.720
Albania's Minister of Economy, Culture and Innovation. Researchers from Albania's154601:29:35.760 --> 01:29:39.880
Institute of Archaeology began excavating it last month after inhabitants154701:29:39.880 --> 01:29:45.720
of the nearby village of streikan Strichsan noticed an unusual154801:29:45.760 --> 01:29:50.199
stone formation on a plateau dating to the third or154901:29:50.239 --> 01:29:54.560
fourth century CE. The two measures nearly thirty feet long155001:29:54.640 --> 01:29:56.880
and twenty feet wide.155101:29:57.159 --> 01:29:59.560
Wow. I think that's bit, but I'm not sure because155201:29:59.600 --> 01:30:01.119
I don't do it measurements really well.155301:30:01.479 --> 01:30:03.119
I think that's about like the size of your living155401:30:03.199 --> 01:30:04.840
room and dining room combined.155501:30:05.560 --> 01:30:08.960
Wow, that's relatively large, but not really.155601:30:09.800 --> 01:30:12.840
I mean by tomb standards, YE think that's pretty big. Okay,155701:30:13.960 --> 01:30:16.359
like a ten by ten, Like by shed standards, that's155801:30:16.359 --> 01:30:20.000
a decent size. Twenty foot by thirty foot would be155901:30:20.039 --> 01:30:22.760
a gigantic. Should that be a garage?156001:30:23.039 --> 01:30:24.119
Yeah, that'd be nice.156101:30:26.039 --> 01:30:27.600
I'm sorry you don't have a garage.156201:30:27.880 --> 01:30:28.239
Me too.156301:30:30.000 --> 01:30:30.800
We made it sad.156401:30:31.319 --> 01:30:32.520
Yeah.156501:30:32.560 --> 01:30:36.319
It's made up of three components, a staircase, entrance, hall,156601:30:36.439 --> 01:30:41.039
and a funerary chamber. The chamber held the remains of156701:30:41.079 --> 01:30:44.960
two people, and its limestone wall features an inscription written156801:30:45.000 --> 01:30:48.880
in Greek quote. The inscription tells us that the person156901:30:48.960 --> 01:30:52.039
buried here was named Gelliano, a name typical of the157001:30:52.119 --> 01:30:58.439
Roman period lead archaeologist Ericson Nicoli. Nikoli tells Reuters fatos157101:30:58.479 --> 01:31:03.239
By Tucci and Floria on Goga quote, we are uncertain157201:31:03.279 --> 01:31:05.560
about the identity of the second individual, but it is157301:31:05.760 --> 01:31:09.880
likely a family member or a worker who fell inside157401:31:09.920 --> 01:31:14.920
when they were closing it. No, uh, do you do157501:31:14.960 --> 01:31:18.199
you find like when you were a kid, were you157601:31:18.279 --> 01:31:20.159
fascinated by like Egypt or anything like that.157701:31:22.319 --> 01:31:26.199
I don't know, not like particularly, but sure you're.157801:31:26.000 --> 01:31:29.000
Like no, no, My people were like really adamant to157901:31:29.039 --> 01:31:29.640
get out of there.158001:31:30.039 --> 01:31:31.600
Yeah. I don't really deal with that.158101:31:32.079 --> 01:31:36.239
They're like audios And I think about Egypt every passover158201:31:36.279 --> 01:31:41.840
at the end now and I said, no, uh ha158301:31:41.880 --> 01:31:48.279
ha ha, yeah, that's good. Vaguely related. The edges of158401:31:48.319 --> 01:31:53.000
the tomb's walls and roof are decorated with intricate carvings. Meanwhile,158501:31:53.000 --> 01:31:56.880
a second inscription honors Jupiter, the Roman god of the sky.158601:31:57.920 --> 01:32:00.399
According to the statement, this is the first dediction of158701:32:00.439 --> 01:32:03.600
its kind to be discovered in the region. Other inscriptions158801:32:03.640 --> 01:32:06.439
were found on loose stones around the site, though experts158901:32:06.479 --> 01:32:11.640
say these may have come from another nearby monument. Oh,159001:32:11.680 --> 01:32:14.720
when I was a kid, I thought the concept of159101:32:14.760 --> 01:32:22.920
like the big, the big sarcophaguses and the giant tombs159201:32:23.119 --> 01:32:25.560
in Egypt. I thought that was just like super fascinating.159301:32:26.159 --> 01:32:27.439
It is pretty interesting.159401:32:29.600 --> 01:32:33.680
This is wild because this is like not so monumental,159501:32:33.920 --> 01:32:36.720
like it's not so gargantuan that it's like, oh, so159601:32:36.760 --> 01:32:38.479
some people just like had money and were like, I159701:32:38.520 --> 01:32:39.640
don't know what to do with it. I guess when159801:32:39.640 --> 01:32:41.279
I die built a really huge thing.159901:32:41.960 --> 01:32:44.119
Yeah, I mean, but we still are. We we do160001:32:44.159 --> 01:32:47.359
that with like mausoleums and stuff today sort of.160101:32:47.840 --> 01:32:50.039
Yeah, but like one person or two people doesn't get160201:32:50.039 --> 01:32:51.239
twenty by thirty feet.160301:32:52.479 --> 01:32:54.439
I don't know. Some of them look pretty big.160401:32:55.039 --> 01:32:57.119
They're not small, but I'm just saying that's a little160501:32:57.119 --> 01:32:57.760
on the big side.160601:32:57.840 --> 01:33:02.319
And then you can go down so when you combine160701:33:02.359 --> 01:33:05.039
all the floors, I don't.160801:33:04.880 --> 01:33:07.960
Know, but most mausoleums contained like multiple famili like a160901:33:08.000 --> 01:33:11.159
ton of family. Hmmm. So but no, I give what161001:33:11.159 --> 01:33:15.159
you're saying. Northern Albania was once part of the ancient161101:33:15.720 --> 01:33:19.800
region of Illyria, which can include parts of present day Croatia,161201:33:19.840 --> 01:33:25.800
Bosnia and Herzegovina, Herzegovina and Montenegro. I was waiting for161301:33:25.840 --> 01:33:28.199
you to be like it's not Bosnia. Like you're like161401:33:28.239 --> 01:33:31.199
on the other side of the conference, it's not Bosnia.161501:33:32.199 --> 01:33:35.600
The Illyrians were an Indo European people who lived in161601:33:35.800 --> 01:33:39.680
organized tribes and some of which united under various kingdoms.161701:33:40.079 --> 01:33:43.239
Rome warred with the Ilkerian kingdoms throughout the third and161801:33:43.319 --> 01:33:48.239
second centuries BCE, eventually conquering the entire Bulkan Peninsula. While161901:33:48.239 --> 01:33:51.560
the region was heavily influenced by Roman culture, the Illyrians162001:33:51.600 --> 01:33:55.800
fought to conserve their language and traditions. During the recent162101:33:55.800 --> 01:33:59.359
excavation of Giuliano's tomb, archaeologists found that the site had162201:33:59.399 --> 01:34:02.279
been looted at least twice.162301:34:02.560 --> 01:34:05.439
I hate that when it's like, well, everyone else knew162401:34:05.479 --> 01:34:07.000
it was here except for you guys.162501:34:07.560 --> 01:34:09.479
Yeah, we all knew about it. We just didn't tell you.162601:34:09.880 --> 01:34:12.600
We just thought you knew. Like it's right there. We've162701:34:12.600 --> 01:34:13.920
been in fluting it for years.162801:34:14.359 --> 01:34:16.119
Yeah, like for real, Like I go there on my162901:34:16.159 --> 01:34:18.039
way to get groceries. I'm like, I need some lira.163001:34:18.159 --> 01:34:18.800
I'm just gonna go.163101:34:19.119 --> 01:34:19.479
Yeah.163201:34:19.800 --> 01:34:25.239
Yeah. Robbers entered the tomb once in antiquity and again163301:34:25.439 --> 01:34:29.239
in modern times when they used heavy machinery to geez.163401:34:29.319 --> 01:34:33.199
This is like organized heavy machinery to move a large163501:34:33.279 --> 01:34:36.800
rock to access the site. Despite these incidents, the team163601:34:36.880 --> 01:34:41.640
unearthed a trove of artifacts, including glass plates, knives, objects163701:34:41.680 --> 01:34:44.800
made from bone, and the bodies of those who dared163801:34:44.880 --> 01:34:49.119
to steal. No, maybe that's who the extra body was,163901:34:49.159 --> 01:34:52.319
as somebody who is buddies. As a goof, we locked164001:34:52.399 --> 01:34:55.039
him in the tomb like as a goog. Yeah, we164101:34:55.119 --> 01:34:58.600
sealed the tomb behind him. It was pretty funny. Yeah164201:34:59.239 --> 01:35:01.000
that was twenty five years ago. I thought it was164301:35:01.039 --> 01:35:07.079
funny as a goof quote. We also uncovered a piece164401:35:07.119 --> 01:35:10.560
of fabric embroidered with gold thread, which confirms our belief164501:35:10.640 --> 01:35:13.319
that we are dealing with members of the upper class164601:35:13.399 --> 01:35:16.000
nicolay ads. I mean that and the fact that there's164701:35:16.000 --> 01:35:18.840
a giant tomb made of stuff which would cost money164801:35:18.840 --> 01:35:19.199
to build.164901:35:19.600 --> 01:35:21.840
What about if it was just made by that person165001:35:21.960 --> 01:35:23.800
and they were like, oh, I'm gonna die in like165101:35:24.079 --> 01:35:26.159
in like twenty years, let me just make a really165201:35:26.159 --> 01:35:27.359
big tomb right now.165301:35:27.800 --> 01:35:30.359
Nobody would do that unless they had a YouTube channel165401:35:30.439 --> 01:35:34.880
to show them doing it, Like those fake video makers165501:35:34.880 --> 01:35:37.520
that make those ridiculous houses and stuff out of mud.165601:35:38.199 --> 01:35:39.680
I want to make mud houses.165701:35:40.359 --> 01:35:43.199
You don't watch those YouTube videos. No, most of them165801:35:43.199 --> 01:35:45.720
are fake, unfortunately, but yeah, they're like just carving out165901:35:45.760 --> 01:35:51.560
of the earth things. It's pretty relaxing. The discovery has166001:35:51.600 --> 01:35:55.560
always has already drawn crowds of curious locals, angry that166101:35:55.600 --> 01:35:59.680
they won't be able to raid the tomb anymore. From money. Yeah,166201:36:00.439 --> 01:36:04.399
Albania's tourism economy has rapidly expanded in recent years, and166301:36:04.479 --> 01:36:07.199
officials eventually plan to open the site of the tomb166401:36:07.640 --> 01:36:15.560
to visitors the almighty dollar babe. Yeah, we're gonna take166501:36:15.600 --> 01:36:18.399
a break, and I've got one more piece that's just166601:36:18.479 --> 01:36:22.960
for Shell because it's all about haunted real estate. Okay,166701:36:23.439 --> 01:36:32.399
right after this Shell. I know how much you love166801:36:32.520 --> 01:36:37.359
real estate just in general, like the general concept of166901:36:37.399 --> 01:36:39.399
it as a home inspector and stuff. You always liked167001:36:39.399 --> 01:36:45.159
houses and things. Yeah, why'd you say that? Like down dowardly,167101:36:45.319 --> 01:36:46.920
that's a positive thing, a thing you like.167201:36:47.560 --> 01:36:49.600
I know that's why it's bad.167301:36:51.119 --> 01:36:56.079
Well this mirror dot co dot uk Arnicle. Yeah we're back, baby.167401:36:57.079 --> 01:37:00.760
The headline is cliff Side Castle overlooking Sea for sale167501:37:01.239 --> 01:37:03.800
with ghosts that can be heard at night.167601:37:05.560 --> 01:37:08.520
I mean that's that's a sell. That's a feature, I guess.167701:37:08.800 --> 01:37:10.840
I mean putting that in the listing is a little167801:37:11.239 --> 01:37:12.600
is an interesting choice. I think.167901:37:13.079 --> 01:37:15.000
I think you just have to be upfront because you168001:37:15.039 --> 01:37:17.760
don't want people being like trying to sue you when168101:37:17.760 --> 01:37:19.600
they hear the ghosts at night all time.168201:37:20.640 --> 01:37:22.399
Well, let me let me show it to you real quick.168301:37:24.319 --> 01:37:27.319
WHOA looks like it's in a bit of rough shape.168401:37:27.399 --> 01:37:29.840
That's what I want. Do you think it has a168501:37:29.920 --> 01:37:31.119
roof on any part of it?168601:37:31.720 --> 01:37:36.640
I who can say? Probably not.168701:37:37.319 --> 01:37:43.279
It doesn't have any like like glass in the windows. Whoo.168801:37:43.520 --> 01:37:45.960
No, it's right on the water.168901:37:46.159 --> 01:37:46.920
Yeah, i'd buy that.169001:37:48.119 --> 01:37:49.600
Oh this is not a house.169101:37:49.880 --> 01:37:52.159
This is so good I want I'm gonna live here.169201:37:52.399 --> 01:37:54.680
It's got Are you excited because you see that it169301:37:54.720 --> 01:37:57.600
has like no flooring. It's literally like dirt.169401:37:58.119 --> 01:38:00.159
Yeah, so you don't have to worry about it.169501:38:00.920 --> 01:38:07.720
The foundation is the planet itself. Yeah, it is literally169601:38:07.720 --> 01:38:08.239
a castle.169701:38:09.600 --> 01:38:10.960
I mean it's just a ruins.169801:38:11.800 --> 01:38:14.600
Well, I mean yeah, but I mean, like, if you're169901:38:14.640 --> 01:38:16.960
gonna be I still have all the muskrats on the screen, yeah,170001:38:17.000 --> 01:38:21.439
I mean, if you're gonna be persnickety about it. But170101:38:21.439 --> 01:38:23.000
but hold on, you may still want to buy it.170201:38:24.680 --> 01:38:27.760
A castle perched on a cliff has hit the property market,170301:38:28.239 --> 01:38:31.000
and many people believe it's haunted.170401:38:32.039 --> 01:38:32.199
Right.170501:38:33.079 --> 01:38:36.880
Offers of one hundred thousand pounds are being considered for170601:38:36.960 --> 01:38:43.760
the spectacular site. That's pretty cheap for like, yeah, I170701:38:43.760 --> 01:38:46.520
mean considering it's it's a yeah, it's a ruin and170801:38:46.560 --> 01:38:48.319
there's not even like a road next to it.170901:38:50.760 --> 01:38:53.840
I mean, I guess you just drive up the grass places.171001:38:54.279 --> 01:38:55.680
Yeah, you just have to get like a you know,171101:38:55.760 --> 01:38:57.399
good four wheel drive. You'll be fine.171201:38:57.760 --> 01:38:58.479
Yeah.171301:38:58.600 --> 01:39:02.000
Yeah, little little coat of pain, little plumbing and electricity171401:39:02.039 --> 01:39:04.960
that probably is nowhere near there either, and you're set.171501:39:05.000 --> 01:39:10.880
You're gonna go. Duns Ki Castle, a scheduled monument dating171601:39:10.920 --> 01:39:14.119
from the mid sixteenth century, stands on the site of171701:39:14.159 --> 01:39:17.600
what is thought to be earlier the earlier a Dare Castle,171801:39:18.560 --> 01:39:23.560
which was destroyed in fifteen hundred. The Ruins, Hey, look171901:39:23.600 --> 01:39:26.319
at you, the ruins. This is Chell's episode. She's been172001:39:26.399 --> 01:39:31.439
right every time about everything. Oh really must be nice.172101:39:31.960 --> 01:39:34.600
The ruins sit on eight acres of land and can172201:39:34.640 --> 01:39:38.479
be reached via coastal footpath behind the property. As reported172301:39:38.479 --> 01:39:42.760
by Luxury Property News, the castle is a popular stop172401:39:42.760 --> 01:39:48.600
for tourists who can explore the ruins across the former moat. Okay,172501:39:48.920 --> 01:39:50.960
I don't want people crossing my moat. If I buy172601:39:51.039 --> 01:39:52.199
that place, well, I think.172701:39:52.079 --> 01:39:55.000
You have to put up a big, big fence that has.172801:39:55.199 --> 01:39:57.960
It's a castle. It's meant to keep people out. I172901:39:58.439 --> 01:40:01.159
build it. Once you re build it, I mean no,173001:40:01.399 --> 01:40:06.720
right now, right this second, on a clear day. Also173101:40:06.720 --> 01:40:11.079
one hundred quid though for like eight acres right by173201:40:11.119 --> 01:40:13.239
the water. That's surprisingly cheap.173301:40:13.560 --> 01:40:14.159
It's not bad.173401:40:15.640 --> 01:40:18.000
It's probably a horrible place to live in every aspect.173501:40:18.479 --> 01:40:23.880
Hmmm whatever, on a clear day, if you stretch all173601:40:23.880 --> 01:40:27.000
the way across the sea towards Northern Ireland, over twenty173701:40:27.079 --> 01:40:30.079
miles away, that's why it's so cheap. They're like, nobody173801:40:30.119 --> 01:40:36.000
wants to see Northern Islands hateful. It has been Wow,173901:40:36.319 --> 01:40:38.840
it has been derelict since. Do you want to guess174001:40:39.760 --> 01:40:41.680
how long it's been derelict. I want to put this174101:40:41.720 --> 01:40:42.239
to you, sheel.174201:40:42.479 --> 01:40:45.520
Yeah, it's been derelict since eighteen oh two.174301:40:47.039 --> 01:40:53.119
Finally you're wrong, seventeen hundred. Oh wow, it's a very174401:40:53.159 --> 01:40:53.760
long time.174501:40:54.000 --> 01:40:55.800
I mean, that's why it looks like that. I guess.174601:40:56.239 --> 01:40:58.840
Ouch. Now you sound like that lady talking about ghosts174701:40:58.880 --> 01:41:03.000
behind their backs. Yet enough of the castle remains to174801:41:03.039 --> 01:41:07.199
show the strength of its original fortifications. The walls are174901:41:07.359 --> 01:41:08.439
five feet thick.175001:41:09.119 --> 01:41:11.560
Wow, that's why they're still standing.175101:41:12.079 --> 01:41:17.359
Yeah. The tower rises thirty meters and there are remnants175201:41:17.399 --> 01:41:21.079
of a vaulted cellar and a watch tower, all perched175301:41:21.159 --> 01:41:23.920
on the cliff edge.175401:41:25.079 --> 01:41:27.079
It'd be cooler if you could go up those things,175501:41:27.119 --> 01:41:28.079
but I don't think you can.175601:41:28.479 --> 01:41:30.159
Yeah, this place needs a lot of work if it's175701:41:30.159 --> 01:41:31.560
going to be like a place you're going to like175801:41:31.720 --> 01:41:35.359
do stuff in. Yeah, not even live, just like do175901:41:35.439 --> 01:41:38.800
anything other than be outside, but in it slightly m h.176001:41:39.119 --> 01:41:41.439
Yeah.176101:41:40.800 --> 01:41:45.359
The castle lies on the coastal path from Portpatrick to Moreauch,176201:41:46.039 --> 01:41:48.560
in a secluded spot that adds to its sense of176301:41:48.640 --> 01:41:54.439
mystery and historic glure. Ooh. The listing is being handled176401:41:54.439 --> 01:41:57.560
by Ian Eli Corbett of Strutton Partner, with offers being176501:41:57.560 --> 01:42:04.359
considered over one hundred thousand pounds according to Visit Scotland quote.176601:42:04.640 --> 01:42:08.479
The magnificent ruins of Dunski Castle are picturesquely perched on176701:42:08.479 --> 01:42:13.199
a rocky outcrop jetting out into the Irish Sea. The176801:42:13.239 --> 01:42:16.359
massive towerhouse was built in the mid sixteenth century for176901:42:16.439 --> 01:42:19.399
the Adirs of Kinhilt, the same family that owned the177001:42:19.439 --> 01:42:23.359
Castle of Saint John in Stranraer, and the long wing177101:42:23.439 --> 01:42:26.680
in the north was added in the sixteen twenties. By177201:42:26.720 --> 01:42:29.720
the seventeen hundreds or by seventeen hundred, the whole building177301:42:29.840 --> 01:42:35.399
was derelict. Man, there's an ad over what I need177401:42:35.399 --> 01:42:40.560
to read? Damn, I hate? Why why I have to177501:42:40.600 --> 01:42:48.479
reload it? A professional? Dammit the ruins blah blah blah.177601:42:48.520 --> 01:42:53.399
Eight acres of land on a clear day coastal path.177701:42:54.000 --> 01:42:56.840
Here we go the defensive ditch on the lands where177801:42:57.479 --> 01:42:59.960
lands ward side is all that survives of an early177901:43:00.119 --> 01:43:03.159
or a Dare castle, first recorded in the fourteenth century.178001:43:03.840 --> 01:43:08.640
This castle was destroyed around fifteen hundred by the mccullicks178101:43:08.680 --> 01:43:13.439
of Merton and the cardinesses. Those cardinals, I never trusted them.178201:43:13.600 --> 01:43:15.520
Yeah, destroying castles.178301:43:17.159 --> 01:43:21.720
Many reports online suggest some believe the castle is haunted.178401:43:23.920 --> 01:43:27.520
One legend says a minstrel was imprisoned in dungeons at178501:43:27.560 --> 01:43:32.960
the castle and found a secret tunnel. Yeah, legend has178601:43:33.000 --> 01:43:36.479
it as they say that on stormy nights the sound178701:43:36.520 --> 01:43:40.159
of his pipes can be heard above the waves.178801:43:40.720 --> 01:43:44.159
But it sounded like he escaped because he found a178901:43:44.199 --> 01:43:45.319
secret tunnel.179001:43:46.399 --> 01:43:47.520
Or he died in the tunnel.179101:43:48.279 --> 01:43:50.039
They didn't say that, though.179201:43:50.560 --> 01:43:52.640
Well they implied it by him being a ghost.179301:43:54.159 --> 01:43:56.520
I mean it's been a long time, so he could179401:43:56.560 --> 01:43:57.640
just be a ghost anyway.179501:43:58.199 --> 01:44:00.399
Yeah, that's true. He just died and I was like,179601:44:00.560 --> 01:44:00.920
I'm a.179701:44:00.880 --> 01:44:04.279
Hot there tunnel.179801:44:05.279 --> 01:44:10.800
That tunnel was dope. According to the website's storied collection,179901:44:11.399 --> 01:44:15.039
after being left to starve, the minstrel oh a minstrel180001:44:15.159 --> 01:44:17.840
quote reached a cave on the shore of the open180101:44:17.920 --> 01:44:21.960
sea below the castle. He could hear the roaring waves.180201:44:22.520 --> 01:44:26.239
He could see the moon glistening above, promising a life180301:44:26.319 --> 01:44:31.520
beyond Dunski, but he could not scale the slick, steep walls.180401:44:32.960 --> 01:44:36.920
He died a slow death, looking at the freedom he180501:44:36.960 --> 01:44:40.720
could not reach forevermore. It is said that you can180601:44:40.800 --> 01:44:45.119
hear his pipes playing above the waves on stormy nights180701:44:45.600 --> 01:44:50.720
as his ghost paces up and down the passageway where180801:44:50.760 --> 01:44:51.359
he died.180901:44:52.600 --> 01:44:54.039
Ah huh.181001:44:54.119 --> 01:44:58.159
Another legend states a Brownie haunts the site. This is181101:44:58.199 --> 01:45:01.680
sometimes described by believers in the paranormal as a hairy181201:45:01.840 --> 01:45:07.840
manlike apparition. I've never heard of that before, Yeah, brownie181301:45:08.000 --> 01:45:11.800
and uh oh, some reports. Oh you think mirror dot181401:45:11.840 --> 01:45:14.119
co dot uk is a good source. Some reports on181501:45:14.279 --> 01:45:20.359
Tumblr speak speak of inexplicable sounds that can be heard181601:45:20.760 --> 01:45:21.439
at the scene.181701:45:23.119 --> 01:45:26.119
I mean, I don't know.181801:45:27.640 --> 01:45:30.840
What. No, no, rough harsh words for the minstrel ghost.181901:45:31.239 --> 01:45:35.239
No, I mean honestly, like, you have these these open182001:45:35.319 --> 01:45:37.840
window holes and shit, and you're right by the ocean,182101:45:37.840 --> 01:45:40.600
so it's probably windy, probably hearing a lot of like182201:45:40.720 --> 01:45:45.319
weird noises sound through the little openings.182301:45:45.319 --> 01:45:48.359
With how wide open the area is, you could be182401:45:48.399 --> 01:45:51.239
hearing a ghost from another castle right off in the distance.182501:45:51.319 --> 01:45:53.760
Yeah right, I don't know.182601:45:53.880 --> 01:45:56.520
People just don't want to have critical thinking skills anymore,182701:45:56.560 --> 01:45:56.720
you know.182801:45:57.000 --> 01:45:58.199
Yeah.182901:45:58.239 --> 01:46:00.000
Well, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be183001:46:00.079 --> 01:46:03.159
get back. We're going to dive into why the Halloween183101:46:03.239 --> 01:46:15.199
candy scare still haunts America after this cell, I am183201:46:15.319 --> 01:46:19.000
positive that we've had this conversation a part of this183301:46:19.079 --> 01:46:24.199
conversation before. But what's your favorite Halloween candy? Oh?183401:46:24.239 --> 01:46:31.199
I don't know, like dots, dots? Yeah?183501:46:31.560 --> 01:46:35.119
Oh, the squishy dots, Yes, I love those.183601:46:35.680 --> 01:46:36.319
Yeah, me too.183701:46:36.800 --> 01:46:39.680
For a second, I thought you meant the paper with them,183801:46:39.720 --> 01:46:42.119
and I was like the ones where you eat paper.183901:46:42.520 --> 01:46:45.079
Well, you don't eat the paper, you just eat the184001:46:45.079 --> 01:46:45.439
thing on.184101:46:45.600 --> 01:46:49.920
You just end up eating some paper, is all. Did184201:46:50.000 --> 01:46:52.399
you like wax lips when you were a kid, I184301:46:52.399 --> 01:46:55.680
don't think so weird. Yeah it was like wax you184401:46:55.800 --> 01:46:58.840
chew on and spit out. Yeah, And I never understand184501:46:58.840 --> 01:47:00.239
it's not chewing them, it's just it's.184601:47:00.159 --> 01:47:02.439
Like weird, weird.184701:47:03.520 --> 01:47:08.840
And you were cool with candy corn. Yeah, yeah, okay, good,184801:47:09.520 --> 01:47:11.560
I love Mike. I've been having a lot of candy corn.184901:47:11.560 --> 01:47:15.199
I bought one really high quality like bag of candy corn,185001:47:15.680 --> 01:47:17.720
and I've been resealing it every night after i eat185101:47:17.800 --> 01:47:20.760
just a little bit of it, trying to like maximize185201:47:20.800 --> 01:47:27.079
the experience. Yeah, because I'm a dork. So when you185301:47:27.079 --> 01:47:29.119
were a kid, do you remember what Halloween candy you185401:47:29.119 --> 01:47:30.439
were most excited to get in your bag?185501:47:31.000 --> 01:47:31.840
Dots?185601:47:32.279 --> 01:47:34.720
Oh it was dots then too. Okay, yeah they had185701:47:34.760 --> 01:47:38.920
Halloween dots last year. They were they were ghost dots185801:47:38.920 --> 01:47:43.079
and they were like gray and a little sea through wow,185901:47:45.359 --> 01:47:48.840
and they tasted like dots. So when I was a kid,186001:47:48.920 --> 01:47:51.560
it was it was all about those little three packs186101:47:51.560 --> 01:47:52.720
of sweet tarts.186201:47:53.199 --> 01:47:54.159
Oh, I don't like those.186301:47:55.680 --> 01:48:01.840
You don't like anything sour. Yeah, I'll never understand you.186401:48:01.920 --> 01:48:07.960
Although last night I opened up a bag of Jellybelly186501:48:08.359 --> 01:48:12.640
jelly beans that were wild cherry flavored, and I ate186601:48:12.680 --> 01:48:14.520
a couple of them, and I lit a cigar and186701:48:14.560 --> 01:48:17.960
started smoking, and the cigar tasted awful, And it was186801:48:17.960 --> 01:48:20.720
a cigar I smoked all the time, and there are186901:48:20.720 --> 01:48:23.079
only a few cigars that I have like the same187001:48:23.159 --> 01:48:25.600
one again and again. So I was like, Man, is187101:48:25.600 --> 01:48:28.000
this cigar like have something wrong with it? Or is187201:48:28.000 --> 01:48:30.680
my mouthfall messed up? Because I've been having weird taste issues.187301:48:31.840 --> 01:48:36.560
And then I just stopped eating those and after like187401:48:36.600 --> 01:48:38.560
ten minutes it went away. I think they just had187501:48:38.640 --> 01:48:43.640
something about them that just did not play nice. Yeah,187601:48:43.720 --> 01:48:46.680
it's weird because usually candy and cigars go together very nicely.187701:48:47.279 --> 01:48:51.680
So with that all being said, we're taking a look187801:48:51.720 --> 01:48:56.039
at FastCompany dot COM's coverage this Actually, this article is187901:48:56.079 --> 01:48:58.239
super new. I mean it didn't come out this year,188001:48:58.239 --> 01:49:01.319
but it came out after we'd recorded last year's show. Okay,188101:49:01.680 --> 01:49:05.399
so it was Halloween of last year. And the headline188201:49:05.439 --> 01:49:08.680
is why the American the Halloween candy scare still haunts America.188301:49:09.680 --> 01:49:12.199
And I've just always been fascinated by this because I188401:49:12.199 --> 01:49:14.520
remember growing up and being told to check your candy.188501:49:15.159 --> 01:49:17.279
Not to eat anything until your parents look at it.188601:49:17.359 --> 01:49:20.479
Not to accept anything that's not sealed, not take apples,188701:49:20.560 --> 01:49:26.640
not take homemade treats, things like that. Yeah. So, and188801:49:26.720 --> 01:49:31.640
of course, have you ever seen oh gosh, what is188901:49:31.680 --> 01:49:35.199
it called Night of the Demons? No? Oh, it has189001:49:35.239 --> 01:49:40.000
a great razorblade apple gag in it. I have to189101:49:40.039 --> 01:49:41.560
I have to show you that to you sometimes be189201:49:41.600 --> 01:49:45.239
a good friend to you. So, yeah, this is an article.189301:49:45.279 --> 01:49:49.199
I was very curious about the unquiet spirits, vampires, and189401:49:49.239 --> 01:49:53.840
the omnipresent zombies that take over American streets every October thirty.189501:49:53.880 --> 01:49:57.960
First may think Halloween is all about spooky fun. But189601:49:58.039 --> 01:50:02.279
what Halloween masqueraders may not realize is that in the189701:50:02.319 --> 01:50:06.319
early nineteen seventies and well into the next decade, real189801:50:06.479 --> 01:50:16.600
fear took over. Yeah, the media, police departments, and politicians189901:50:16.640 --> 01:50:20.159
began to tell a new kind of Halloween horror story190001:50:20.800 --> 01:50:25.560
that's super high seo the full phrase Halloween horror story.190101:50:26.079 --> 01:50:28.279
I have been working on that a lot this year.190201:50:30.600 --> 01:50:32.239
About poison candy.190301:50:34.079 --> 01:50:34.920
Yeah.190401:50:35.039 --> 01:50:37.680
Yeah, oh, but this is where it gets really weird.190501:50:37.920 --> 01:50:42.039
No actual events explained this fear. It was driven by190601:50:42.079 --> 01:50:46.279
social and cultural anxieties. And there's a lesson in that190701:50:46.560 --> 01:50:51.319
about the power of rumors. On this day of dark fantasy.190801:50:54.439 --> 01:50:56.640
I can't even help but go into like the throaty190901:50:56.720 --> 01:51:00.800
voice on some words of dark fantasy. I try not191001:51:00.840 --> 01:51:06.520
to do it in person, too weird. The Halloween candy191101:51:06.560 --> 01:51:09.920
scare began in nineteen seventy. An op ed on October191201:51:09.960 --> 01:51:13.119
twenty eighth, nineteen seventy in The New York Times suggested191301:51:13.159 --> 01:51:18.159
the possibility of strangers using Halloween's trick or treat tradition191401:51:18.760 --> 01:51:19.840
to poison children.191501:51:21.119 --> 01:51:22.800
It's a good idea to put that stuff out there,191601:51:22.920 --> 01:51:26.359
be like, Hey, have you ever considered poisoning people by191701:51:26.399 --> 01:51:27.960
putting stuff in Halloween candy?191801:51:28.079 --> 01:51:32.119
It sure would be easy, Yeah, and you'd never get caught.191901:51:33.640 --> 01:51:36.399
But oh so this is a totally like so New192001:51:36.479 --> 01:51:40.039
York fabricated this originally your ancestral homeland.192101:51:40.239 --> 01:51:40.760
Oh good.192201:51:41.560 --> 01:51:46.159
The editorial mentioned two unconfirmed incidents in upstate New York192301:51:47.680 --> 01:51:53.800
and offered a series of frighteningly rhetorical questions. The author,192401:51:53.920 --> 01:51:59.760
Judy Klemsrudd that's a name, clems Rud, Yeah, wondered, for example,192501:51:59.800 --> 01:52:04.159
if that quote plump red Apple from The Kindly Old192601:52:04.279 --> 01:52:08.039
lady down the block may have a razor blade hidden192701:52:08.119 --> 01:52:08.840
inside it.192801:52:09.960 --> 01:52:12.520
I was thinking about this. You know, if there was192901:52:12.560 --> 01:52:14.720
something in an apple, It's not like you can put193001:52:14.720 --> 01:52:17.039
something in an apple and there's no evidence of it.193101:52:17.079 --> 01:52:17.880
I don't understand.193201:52:18.880 --> 01:52:20.920
It'd be like a little at the bottom. You might193301:52:20.960 --> 01:52:22.359
be able to hide it a little bit.193401:52:23.680 --> 01:52:25.560
Maybe, but then would it just get stuck in the193501:52:25.600 --> 01:52:27.279
middle and knowing did eat it anyway?193601:52:29.000 --> 01:52:31.000
I mean, I'm not saying if people are doing this193701:52:31.079 --> 01:52:36.079
that they are particularly smart. Oh okay, Well, when I193801:52:36.119 --> 01:52:39.840
was growing up, it was always like a friend of193901:52:39.880 --> 01:52:42.479
a friend's cousin got a razor blade and apple.194001:52:42.920 --> 01:52:43.319
Mm hmm.194101:52:43.840 --> 01:52:45.920
That's or when I was a kid, it wasn't razor194201:52:45.920 --> 01:52:48.760
blade so much. It was needles, oh okay, and that194301:52:48.840 --> 01:52:51.079
you could hide up. Yeah, this is advice for you194401:52:51.119 --> 01:52:53.680
guys out there now, But that you could hide an194501:52:53.720 --> 01:52:56.439
apple like sewing needles. You can stick those in there,194601:52:57.399 --> 01:53:01.560
I guess. And they'd claimed that either there were needles194701:53:01.560 --> 01:53:05.159
in there or it was injected with something using a needle. Sure,194801:53:05.279 --> 01:53:09.279
stuff like that. I think that the real question the194901:53:09.319 --> 01:53:13.000
next editorial should have been to Judy klemsrud Are things195001:53:13.039 --> 01:53:16.640
okay at home. Why are you sitting around just imagining this,195101:53:17.000 --> 01:53:21.319
like saying, wonder if that could happen. It's like, that's weird, lady, Yeah,195201:53:21.359 --> 01:53:27.560
what's going on? Some readers accepted her questions as definitive fact.195301:53:27.920 --> 01:53:31.119
Two days later, a five year old child died on195401:53:31.239 --> 01:53:38.960
Halloween in Detroit after consuming heroin. Early media so I195501:53:38.960 --> 01:53:42.000
thought too, I was like. Early media reports of his195601:53:42.159 --> 01:53:45.479
death cited his uncle's claim that he had been exposed195701:53:45.479 --> 01:53:48.600
to the drug in tainted Halloween treats.195801:53:48.960 --> 01:53:50.840
Yeah, I mean that sounds like really convenient.195901:53:51.239 --> 01:53:56.000
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. By mid November nineteen seventy,196001:53:56.079 --> 01:53:59.199
newspaper reported showed that the child had in fact found196101:53:59.239 --> 01:54:02.640
the heroine at his uncle's home, of course, not in196201:54:02.720 --> 01:54:07.640
this bag of Halloween candy, as investigators had first been told.196301:54:08.039 --> 01:54:13.319
I mean, and I've heard this repeatedly, but like people196401:54:13.319 --> 01:54:15.560
are just not going to give away their heroin and196501:54:15.800 --> 01:54:16.520
like put it in.196601:54:16.800 --> 01:54:20.000
Like, no, it's it's even a little bit as a treat.196701:54:20.560 --> 01:54:24.279
No, it's important to them, they like they have, they196801:54:25.119 --> 01:54:26.119
work hard for that.196901:54:27.039 --> 01:54:28.279
I was hoping you were going to say for them197001:54:28.279 --> 01:54:30.640
in your school, it's important. Heroin is important.197101:54:30.880 --> 01:54:34.159
Yeah, throw it around, yeah.197201:54:33.479 --> 01:54:35.960
It's not chicklets or freakin sparties.197301:54:36.399 --> 01:54:37.680
Yeah.197401:54:37.720 --> 01:54:40.560
Well, we'll take a quick break and things are going197501:54:40.640 --> 01:54:49.840
to get a little more dark right after this. All right,197601:54:49.880 --> 01:54:53.640
we're back and Shell doesn't know what her favorite candy197701:54:53.760 --> 01:54:56.680
dots taste like. I learned that during the break.197801:54:56.960 --> 01:54:58.720
I don't know what that flavor is.197901:54:59.000 --> 01:55:05.119
You just know they're your favorite. Yeah, okay, okay, But198001:55:06.279 --> 01:55:10.239
going back to the story. On October thirty first, nineteen198101:55:10.359 --> 01:55:17.119
seventy four, another child died in Houston, Texas. This time198201:55:17.600 --> 01:55:22.840
the death was a result of eating poisoned candy. The198301:55:22.960 --> 01:55:26.680
child's father had murdered his own son by placing cyanide198401:55:27.119 --> 01:55:28.119
in a pixie stick.198501:55:28.600 --> 01:55:31.279
That's weird.198601:55:32.359 --> 01:55:37.000
I remember reading about that. This story of the Houston198701:55:37.279 --> 01:55:42.000
candy man killer quickly metastasized, though it had no evidence.198801:55:42.119 --> 01:55:46.199
Newsweek magazine asserted in a nineteen seventy five article that quote,198901:55:46.680 --> 01:55:51.239
over the past several years, several children have died and199001:55:51.479 --> 01:55:56.199
hundreds have narrowly escaped injury from razor blades, sewing needles,199101:55:56.359 --> 01:56:00.840
and shards of glass put in their goodies adults.199201:56:01.000 --> 01:56:04.560
Wow, news has always been shit, huh?199301:56:04.600 --> 01:56:08.039
I know, right? Whenever I hear an example of like199401:56:08.119 --> 01:56:12.159
old news being like really ridiculous and performative and scaring199501:56:12.199 --> 01:56:14.039
people for no good reason. I was saying, Oh, thank199601:56:14.039 --> 01:56:19.159
god that's over. Yeah yeah yeah. By the nineteen eighties,199701:56:19.319 --> 01:56:25.159
some communities had banned tricker treating, and this is something199801:56:25.199 --> 01:56:29.079
I remember hearing about. While hospitals in some metropolitan areas199901:56:29.159 --> 01:56:31.560
offered to X ray Halloween candy.200001:56:32.039 --> 01:56:34.680
Wow, I would get my Halloween candy x ray. That200101:56:34.680 --> 01:56:37.520
sounds like fun. You just want to see, like what's200201:56:37.520 --> 01:56:39.239
in them? You're like, I just want to hang out200301:56:39.239 --> 01:56:41.840
with the people at the hospital. They're so fun. Yeah,200401:56:42.039 --> 01:56:43.039
x ray text yay.200501:56:45.279 --> 01:56:50.600
Parent teacher associations encouraged fall festivals to replace Halloween, and200601:56:50.800 --> 01:56:54.680
on Long Island, a community group gave prizes to children200701:56:54.760 --> 01:56:58.840
who stayed home all together for Halloween of nineteen eighty two.200801:56:59.479 --> 01:57:05.479
That's so, that is so lame. I would I want200901:57:05.479 --> 01:57:07.560
to go back in time and give bigger prizes for201001:57:07.640 --> 01:57:12.319
going out and putting razor blades in the prizes. Yeah,201101:57:12.359 --> 01:57:14.800
but they're like they're not food, so it doesn't even matter.201201:57:14.800 --> 01:57:16.279
There's like, oh, there's a razor blade in this.201301:57:17.800 --> 01:57:21.119
It's a it's a toy bunny. The razor blade in.201401:57:21.159 --> 01:57:24.319
It it's still the razor blades still in the packaging.201501:57:24.600 --> 01:57:27.239
Yes, thank you, thanks.201601:57:27.600 --> 01:57:29.720
I guess I'll be shaving in like four or five years.201701:57:30.039 --> 01:57:30.560
Awesome.201801:57:31.239 --> 01:57:35.000
In nineteen oh oh, in nineteen eighty two, was that201901:57:35.039 --> 01:57:35.680
far you're born?202001:57:36.119 --> 01:57:36.319
No?202101:57:37.239 --> 01:57:39.279
Was a three? No? Four?202201:57:39.800 --> 01:57:40.239
Yeah?202301:57:40.640 --> 01:57:43.800
Nine, I just just keep going. In nineteen eighty two,202401:57:43.920 --> 01:57:48.840
the governor of New Jersey signed a bill requiring a202501:57:48.960 --> 01:57:51.800
jail term for those tampering with candy.202601:57:52.520 --> 01:57:54.680
So no one ever got arrested for that.202701:57:54.720 --> 01:57:56.680
Huh because no one had done it.202801:57:57.079 --> 01:57:57.840
Yeah.202901:57:57.880 --> 01:58:03.119
I love how this happens so often. It's performative, it's203001:58:03.159 --> 01:58:05.039
it's it's government theater.203101:58:05.880 --> 01:58:09.039
Well you remember, I don't remember if it's New York.203201:58:09.119 --> 01:58:14.199
I think it's Vermont. The made that CHAMPI the Vermont,203301:58:14.359 --> 01:58:19.880
the Lake Champlain, Mons River Monster. Yeah, it's like protected203401:58:20.520 --> 01:58:23.960
under the law there. That doesn't make any sense.203501:58:24.239 --> 01:58:27.439
Yeah, but that's at least kind of cute and folksy okay.203601:58:28.039 --> 01:58:32.159
Like It's it's one thing too to like, you know,203701:58:32.359 --> 01:58:37.159
ban bigfoot from rummaging in your garbage cans. It's another203801:58:37.199 --> 01:58:41.800
thing to ban, you know, thrill kill gangs from stabbing203901:58:41.880 --> 01:58:44.520
you to death in the produce produce department because you're like, well,204001:58:44.520 --> 01:58:48.960
that never happens, and that's scary. Bigfoot is kind of funny.204101:58:49.159 --> 01:58:53.640
Maybe maybe untilly scary, but no, it's just it's funny204201:58:53.640 --> 01:58:56.479
because that kind of theater is so common in leadership204301:58:57.319 --> 01:58:59.279
to kind of make it seem like you're doing something.204401:58:59.319 --> 01:59:04.039
So in eighty two, New Jersey's governor signed a bill204501:59:04.159 --> 01:59:06.680
requiring a jail term for tampering with candy, even though204601:59:06.720 --> 01:59:09.199
nobody had been accused of it.204701:59:09.720 --> 01:59:12.600
Yeah, and it wasn't even like the kids that you204801:59:12.640 --> 01:59:15.720
know had the incidents were in New Jersey.204901:59:15.520 --> 01:59:20.760
No, Detroit and Texas. Yeah, so what is the point205001:59:21.079 --> 01:59:22.880
I guess to make people think you're doing something?205101:59:23.479 --> 01:59:23.840
Oh, I guess.205201:59:24.119 --> 01:59:24.319
Yeah.205301:59:24.319 --> 01:59:27.359
It makes everybody feel safer because now if they do it,205401:59:27.399 --> 01:59:29.000
they're going to jail. I mean they were gonna go205501:59:29.039 --> 01:59:31.359
to jail anyway, yes, if they did it, but now205601:59:31.359 --> 01:59:32.720
they're like really going to jail.205701:59:32.720 --> 01:59:34.359
Oh you don't see. That's why I was asking when205801:59:34.359 --> 01:59:37.880
you were born, because you don't remember. Before nineteen eighty two,205901:59:38.439 --> 01:59:41.000
the sign for New Jersey, instead of saying the Garden State,206001:59:41.079 --> 01:59:44.359
it said a great place to tamper with Halloween candy206101:59:44.439 --> 01:59:46.960
because it was the only state in the union that206201:59:47.079 --> 01:59:49.199
allowed tampering with Halloween candy.206301:59:49.520 --> 01:59:49.960
Yeah.206401:59:50.159 --> 01:59:52.800
Yeah, it was like going to Delaware so that you206501:59:52.800 --> 01:59:54.880
didn't have to pay sales tax exactly.206601:59:56.239 --> 01:59:59.279
So they're finally, okay, that's enough tampering with Halloween candy.206702:00:00.159 --> 02:00:05.600
Okay, I've got my fill, I've bagged my limit. When206802:00:05.720 --> 02:00:07.960
when I had my old job, which I can kind206902:00:07.960 --> 02:00:09.760
of like talk more crap about it too because that207002:00:09.800 --> 02:00:13.199
guy's gone at that job now, wow, But when I207102:00:13.199 --> 02:00:15.239
had my old TV job, my boss was really just207202:00:15.279 --> 02:00:18.119
a really poor boss. He just was not a good207302:00:19.000 --> 02:00:22.199
option for bosses. My mom used to when I would207402:00:22.199 --> 02:00:24.159
tell her, like the weird things he would demand or whatever,207502:00:24.199 --> 02:00:26.279
my mom would say that she'd be like, that's management theater.207602:00:26.399 --> 02:00:28.279
He doesn't know how to be a manager, so he's207702:00:28.319 --> 02:00:30.760
just like doing stuff that sounds like what managers do.207802:00:30.880 --> 02:00:31.239
Mm hmm.207902:00:31.560 --> 02:00:34.560
Yeah, Like you know, like saying like, remember your lunch208002:00:34.680 --> 02:00:36.720
your lunch break is thirty minutes, and it's like, okay,208102:00:36.720 --> 02:00:39.800
but did anybody not do that because otherwise we all208202:00:39.880 --> 02:00:42.319
know how long our lunch break is. Like, was there208302:00:42.359 --> 02:00:46.359
an incident that requires us to you know, lock down208402:00:46.439 --> 02:00:49.359
on the lunch breaks. No, it's just you need to208502:00:49.359 --> 02:00:53.359
be telling us things and threatening us, because otherwise there's208602:00:53.399 --> 02:01:00.000
no evidence that you are the boss. Yeah, whoa anyway?208702:01:00.000 --> 02:01:05.560
Hateful me? I'm hateful. However, a comprehensive nineteen oh wait,208802:01:05.600 --> 02:01:08.000
I went I'm sorry, I went past the New Jersey thing.208902:01:08.279 --> 02:01:11.800
Worries of parents and community leaders drove the fear in209002:01:11.880 --> 02:01:17.000
a popular nationally syndicated newspaper advice column called Ask Anne Landers.209102:01:17.920 --> 02:01:22.479
Landers warned in nineteen eighty three of quote twisted strangers209202:01:22.840 --> 02:01:26.640
who had been quote putting razor blades and poison in209302:01:26.760 --> 02:01:33.079
lat taffy apples and other Halloween candy, and Landers was like,209402:01:33.159 --> 02:01:36.680
America's that aunt that sends you emails you don't want,209502:01:37.920 --> 02:01:40.760
you know about gang initiations. Did you ever get those?209602:01:40.840 --> 02:01:43.359
I got those on AOL Back in the day. I209702:01:43.359 --> 02:01:46.800
would get emails, you know, forwarded, you know, chain letter gosh,209802:01:47.159 --> 02:01:50.560
chain letters. Yeah, I would get chain letters. They would say, like,209902:01:50.560 --> 02:01:55.000
you remember, tonight's a crypt's initiation night. If someone flashes210002:01:55.000 --> 02:01:57.479
their high beams that you don't flash the Yeah, don't210102:01:57.520 --> 02:01:58.199
flash back.210202:01:59.800 --> 02:02:02.880
Yeah, drive you off the road and then probably kill210302:02:02.880 --> 02:02:04.680
you if you're not already dead. I'm not really sure.210402:02:05.520 --> 02:02:07.920
Usually, yeah, they'll they'll kill you. It's it's because the210502:02:07.960 --> 02:02:10.439
initiation is they have to kill somebody, right.210602:02:10.359 --> 02:02:13.000
So they figure, let's kill someone who doesn't have their210702:02:13.079 --> 02:02:13.520
lights on.210802:02:14.039 --> 02:02:15.640
Yeah, kill so randomly.210902:02:16.439 --> 02:02:18.359
No, but it's bad because you're you're not you don't211002:02:18.359 --> 02:02:20.880
have your lights on, You're gonna hit someone like, someone's211102:02:20.920 --> 02:02:22.560
not gonna see you. So let's just kill them.211202:02:23.079 --> 02:02:27.399
Yeah, let's just yah, Yeah, just boom boom, that's it.211302:02:27.560 --> 02:02:32.920
Done with that bastard. I yeah, I mean I'm fascinated211402:02:32.920 --> 02:02:36.239
by things that transferred through you know, urban legend ee211502:02:36.319 --> 02:02:40.399
stuff and chain letters. But yeah, this whole like Halloween211602:02:40.439 --> 02:02:42.960
candy poisoning thing. I mean, my mom believed it wholesale.211702:02:43.000 --> 02:02:44.960
When I was a kid. She wasn't like, oh my god,211802:02:44.960 --> 02:02:46.800
don't even touch your look at your Halloween candy. But211902:02:46.840 --> 02:02:49.560
she was very like, if anything looks weird, set it212002:02:49.600 --> 02:02:53.119
aside and I'll look at it. And very rarely did212102:02:53.119 --> 02:02:56.479
anything look weird. Yeah, it was usually like those taffy's212202:02:56.680 --> 02:02:59.279
that were like, you know, twisted on both ends. We212302:02:59.319 --> 02:03:00.720
would have my mom, I would just kind of look212402:03:00.720 --> 02:03:02.640
at them because they're not really sealed.212502:03:03.079 --> 02:03:03.560
Yeah.212602:03:03.640 --> 02:03:06.399
Yeah, so I remember those taffis that would be in212702:03:06.439 --> 02:03:13.159
the black and orange paper. Maybe they weren't good, but212802:03:13.239 --> 02:03:17.239
now I want one because nostalgia. So we're gonna take212902:03:17.239 --> 02:03:19.680
a break and we'll find out a little bit more213002:03:20.199 --> 02:03:34.880
about poisoning children. After this, we're back and Anne Landers213102:03:34.960 --> 02:03:39.000
is telling people to fear taffy apples. I still don't213202:03:39.079 --> 02:03:41.920
under I mean, I get that, like it's for the children.213302:03:43.039 --> 02:03:45.560
People get a lot more reckless with things if it's213402:03:45.560 --> 02:03:46.399
about the children.213502:03:46.800 --> 02:03:47.279
Yeah.213602:03:47.399 --> 02:03:51.239
Yeah. And also this whole twisted stranger's narrative she was213702:03:51.279 --> 02:03:53.760
pushing I mean stranger danger was a total misstep.213802:03:54.319 --> 02:03:54.520
Yeah.213902:03:54.800 --> 02:03:57.279
Yeah. In reality, children are are much more at risk214002:03:57.319 --> 02:04:01.479
of people they know, absolutely not strangers, you know, like214102:04:01.520 --> 02:04:04.880
if you know, if you know Bob, he's bad. M214202:04:05.039 --> 02:04:09.359
hm the end. Yeah, show's over. Just start playing the214302:04:09.399 --> 02:04:13.800
crist No. Uh. However, a comprehensive nineteen eighty five study214402:04:13.880 --> 02:04:17.560
of the thirty years of alleged poisoning did not find214502:04:17.720 --> 02:04:22.920
even a single confirmed incident of a child's death or214602:04:23.039 --> 02:04:30.560
even a serious injury. Wow, that's like not even like214702:04:30.600 --> 02:04:32.760
a kid like busting their tooth on an apple.214802:04:32.920 --> 02:04:37.159
Nothing, just me, I mean that is that a serious injury? Though? Like,214902:04:37.199 --> 02:04:38.319
what are they consider.215002:04:38.159 --> 02:04:39.760
Have it happened to you and see if you feel215102:04:39.760 --> 02:04:44.199
like that fine. You know, even in Halloween two, there's215202:04:44.239 --> 02:04:47.279
a like it takes place mostly at a hospital, and215302:04:48.039 --> 02:04:50.000
like one of the things that happens is somebody comes215402:04:50.039 --> 02:04:52.640
to the emergency room and a kid literally has a215502:04:52.720 --> 02:04:56.119
razor blade stuck between his teeth out from biting into215602:04:56.159 --> 02:04:59.520
an apple. Wowlloween like so that and that was like215702:05:00.279 --> 02:05:03.159
would have been like eighty or eighty one. So that's215802:05:03.159 --> 02:05:06.600
how quickly that proliferated. They thought to put that in215902:05:06.640 --> 02:05:12.880
a movie about Halloween. Sociologist Joel Best don't trust the216002:05:12.920 --> 02:05:17.039
rest trust. Joel Best at the University of Delaware, who216102:05:17.079 --> 02:05:20.880
led the study, called it an urban legend. Most reports216202:05:20.880 --> 02:05:24.279
of poisoned Halloween candy that appeared in print were editorials216302:05:24.560 --> 02:05:28.800
written by authoritative voices in politics and media rather than216402:05:28.840 --> 02:05:34.399
actual events. That is tough. Sometimes you ever see, like216502:05:34.479 --> 02:05:37.199
some friend of your share some really ridiculous news story216602:05:37.239 --> 02:05:40.680
with like a terrifying headline, and when you look at it,216702:05:40.720 --> 02:05:43.000
the first thing you see is it says editorial. You know,216802:05:43.039 --> 02:05:47.680
like this isn't news, this is an opinion. Although now216902:05:47.760 --> 02:05:50.600
it's getting to the point where a friend of mine217002:05:50.880 --> 02:05:53.920
he has a degree in journalism, and he was talking217102:05:53.960 --> 02:05:58.000
about how like the amount like versus twenty years ago217202:05:58.039 --> 02:06:03.039
when he was in college, the amount of of of217302:06:03.439 --> 02:06:06.920
what do you call it, like un known sources, like217402:06:07.000 --> 02:06:11.000
of of sources without you know, a name, Yeah, is insane.217502:06:11.000 --> 02:06:14.119
It used to almost never be how you would report something,217602:06:14.159 --> 02:06:17.359
and now it almost always is how you report the217702:06:17.359 --> 02:06:19.840
news through unnamed sources.217802:06:20.159 --> 02:06:21.600
Yeah.217902:06:21.680 --> 02:06:23.920
And he said it used to be that like if218002:06:23.920 --> 02:06:26.000
you if you didn't have a named source, you better218102:06:26.159 --> 02:06:28.239
really have looked into it because if it turns out218202:06:28.279 --> 02:06:30.399
to be bunk, like, everybody comes down on you for218302:06:30.560 --> 02:06:35.720
using a unknown source. And now it's like that's just Tuesday.218402:06:36.319 --> 02:06:37.960
Yeah.218502:06:38.039 --> 02:06:40.840
Oh well, at least the clicks are happening. Okay, So218602:06:41.000 --> 02:06:42.720
before I don't want to get black pilled. I actually218702:06:42.800 --> 02:06:47.600
love Halloween kids, uh, and I love kids not being poisoned.218802:06:48.039 --> 02:06:49.000
Yeah, it's pretty good.218902:06:49.359 --> 02:06:53.800
It's not bad. It's not bad at all. However, police219002:06:54.000 --> 02:06:57.560
all over the country urged parents to accompany their children219102:06:57.760 --> 02:07:02.039
while trigger treating. In nineteen eighty two, annual Halloween festivities219202:07:02.039 --> 02:07:08.079
that the Governor's mansion in Hartford, Connecticut were canceled. Why219302:07:08.119 --> 02:07:11.119
did a series of rumors very loosely based on a219402:07:11.159 --> 02:07:14.600
small number of tragic crimes, convinced so many people in219502:07:14.680 --> 02:07:20.319
authority and led to such panic. Oh. In his book219602:07:20.359 --> 02:07:25.000
The Vanishing Hitchhiker, I have that book, folklorist John Harold219702:07:25.520 --> 02:07:30.000
runvand Brunvand argues that while urban legends may be grounded219802:07:30.000 --> 02:07:34.479
in actual incidents, they often come to stand and often219902:07:34.520 --> 02:07:36.920
come to stand in for real world fears.220002:07:37.479 --> 02:07:38.680
Mm hm, that makes sense.220102:07:38.960 --> 02:07:41.399
That book's really good. I read it like three or220202:07:41.399 --> 02:07:45.399
four years ago, and it's really really good. In the220302:07:45.399 --> 02:07:49.159
case of poison Candy, my own research into American politics220402:07:49.199 --> 02:07:52.039
and horror tales suggests that those fears might have been220502:07:52.079 --> 02:07:55.359
driven in part by the multitude of problems facing the220602:07:55.479 --> 02:07:57.760
United States at the time. It's a good point. The220702:07:57.760 --> 02:08:02.640
seventies were like pretty brutal, Yeah, yeah, very violent time220802:08:02.720 --> 02:08:06.359
in American history, very uncertain time in American history. Same220902:08:06.399 --> 02:08:08.479
with the sixties. Sixties and seventies were kind of a nightmare.221002:08:09.399 --> 02:08:10.920
I think it's one of the reasons so many people,221102:08:11.000 --> 02:08:12.680
I mean, I'm not going to go either way on him,221202:08:12.680 --> 02:08:13.880
but I think it's one of the reasons there are221302:08:13.880 --> 02:08:17.960
a lot of people who really love on Reagan. In hindsight,221402:08:18.800 --> 02:08:22.159
because the eighties were definitely like a calming of a221502:08:22.199 --> 02:08:25.279
lot of the major national anxieties. Whether it was because221602:08:25.279 --> 02:08:27.720
of Reagan or not is not my point. It's just221702:08:27.760 --> 02:08:30.199
that that could make you look at him fondly just221802:08:30.239 --> 02:08:33.800
by how those were better times. Sure, like he really221902:08:33.840 --> 02:08:35.399
doesn't have to have anything to do with making the222002:08:35.439 --> 02:08:38.359
times better. If he was just there, you'd be like, Ah,222102:08:38.399 --> 02:08:44.119
the Gipper, Yeah, the Gipper, You like the Gipper? Sure,222202:08:44.239 --> 02:08:46.880
sure you have that T shirt that says the Gipper?222302:08:47.359 --> 02:08:48.600
Oh is that what that means?222402:08:50.039 --> 02:08:51.239
T shirt? Yeah?222502:08:51.359 --> 02:08:55.880
Yeah, I always thought it was like called a short sweater.222602:09:04.520 --> 02:09:09.119
Well played. The years from nineteen seventy to nineteen seventy222702:09:09.159 --> 02:09:13.239
five were marked by cultural upheaval, both domestic and geopolitical.222802:09:13.800 --> 02:09:17.119
In nineteen seventy four, President Richard Nixon resigned following the222902:09:17.119 --> 02:09:20.880
Watergate scandal. That scandal exposed the abuse of power and223002:09:20.960 --> 02:09:25.239
a criminal cover up under his administration. Yeah, Americans had223102:09:25.359 --> 02:09:27.439
much more to worry about than Watergate. In the mid223202:09:27.520 --> 02:09:31.199
nineteen seventies, scholar of the Vietnam era, Christian g Appy,223302:09:31.479 --> 02:09:33.880
in his book two thousand and fifth Areas twenty fifteen223402:09:33.880 --> 02:09:37.479
book American Reckoning described the era as one in which223502:09:37.520 --> 02:09:42.199
defeat in Vietnam, combined with stagnant economic growth and soaring inflation,223602:09:42.720 --> 02:09:45.680
caused many Americans to see the country itself as a223702:09:45.800 --> 02:09:52.800
quote victim of forces beyond its control. That's an interesting.223802:09:52.720 --> 02:09:55.920
Concept, Yeah, it is, actually, Yeah, this.223902:09:55.920 --> 02:09:59.600
Sense of victimization drove that drove the sense that American224002:09:59.720 --> 02:10:05.239
societ had become deeply unsafe all the society. The social224102:10:05.319 --> 02:10:08.680
change in the nineteen seventies fed the creation of urban legends,224202:10:08.800 --> 02:10:13.640
argue sociologist Jeffrey S. Victor. A brutal story about strangers224302:10:13.640 --> 02:10:17.640
with poison candy seemed a preferable national fantasy to the224402:10:17.760 --> 02:10:22.039
historical reality. In the nineteen seventies and eighties. Horror at224502:10:22.039 --> 02:10:24.520
the state of the world can take form of parody224602:10:24.680 --> 02:10:29.199
or simple scary stories. Americans had become so disenchanted, according224702:10:29.199 --> 02:10:32.760
to the journalist and historian Rick Pearlstein, that bleak and224802:10:32.800 --> 02:10:36.000
frightening films such as nineteen seventy four As the Exorcist224902:10:36.439 --> 02:10:37.840
captured the national mood.225002:10:38.680 --> 02:10:42.600
Okay, so I can kind of understand this, I mean,225102:10:42.640 --> 02:10:47.439
coming from like the candy standpoint, that is, because it's like, Okay,225202:10:47.479 --> 02:10:49.319
so there are evil people out there, and there's something225302:10:49.399 --> 02:10:52.159
we can do about these evil people where normally we225402:10:52.239 --> 02:10:54.680
feel like we're powerless and we're just things are just225502:10:54.720 --> 02:10:57.800
happening randomly, and so I kind of get that.225602:10:58.239 --> 02:11:00.760
Yeah, And that's the thing when when it comes to225702:11:00.840 --> 02:11:03.880
because I've spent a lot of time thinking about horror225802:11:03.920 --> 02:11:07.239
and how it fits the zeitgeist, because there are a225902:11:07.239 --> 02:11:10.840
lot of interesting things like when the Amityville Horror book226002:11:11.000 --> 02:11:13.840
came out and then the movie came out, and they226102:11:13.840 --> 02:11:17.560
were both gigantic hits, and it caused a flurry of226202:11:17.600 --> 02:11:21.520
haunted house movies. That was during an era where white226302:11:21.520 --> 02:11:24.359
flight was happening, like people were just leaving the cities226402:11:24.359 --> 02:11:26.960
and droves and buying houses. It was also one of226502:11:26.960 --> 02:11:31.000
the biggest times, biggest spikes in home ownership in America.226602:11:32.159 --> 02:11:37.239
And if you think about it, buying a home is scary.226702:11:37.439 --> 02:11:40.960
You know, Oh, the walls are bleeding. Well, that sounds226802:11:40.960 --> 02:11:44.279
better than some plumbing problems I've heard about, you know.226902:11:44.680 --> 02:11:49.279
So you can see how it feeds on anxieties, and227002:11:49.319 --> 02:11:51.800
if you dig even deeper, that's where it gets convoluted227102:11:51.880 --> 02:11:55.520
and confusing, because sometimes it's escapism and other times it's227202:11:55.520 --> 02:12:01.439
catharsis you can go either way. Like after nine to eleven,227302:12:02.439 --> 02:12:08.720
horror shifted to extremely violent torture horror movies. They became227402:12:08.960 --> 02:12:13.079
very popular right after nine to eleven when torture was227502:12:13.159 --> 02:12:17.560
in the news. So it was more of a Catharsis227602:12:17.640 --> 02:12:20.399
like a like a safer way to look at that227702:12:20.479 --> 02:12:23.840
reality being in a movie theater rather than thinking like227802:12:24.199 --> 02:12:27.760
we're doing this or you know, my you know, loved227902:12:27.760 --> 02:12:29.560
ones in the military could be doing this right now.228002:12:29.560 --> 02:12:33.119
I don't know what's going on. So it's a really228102:12:33.159 --> 02:12:36.119
fair point because, yeah, horror and not just movies and books,228202:12:36.119 --> 02:12:40.199
but obviously urban legends, myths, the things we talk about,228302:12:40.239 --> 02:12:42.560
the things that make us scared, have a lot to228402:12:42.560 --> 02:12:46.600
do with what's going on in our lives. Yeah, yeah,228502:12:46.680 --> 02:12:50.600
so we'll we'll finish up this heavy story thanks to228602:12:50.640 --> 02:13:02.600
Michelle making it dark. Sorry right after this, so we're228702:13:02.680 --> 02:13:07.159
back and we're kind of getting to the heart of228802:13:07.199 --> 02:13:13.319
this whole poison candy myth. This is a really interesting article.228902:13:14.439 --> 02:13:15.920
When I found it, I was like ooh because it229002:13:15.960 --> 02:13:17.560
was brand new, because most of the stuff I've read229102:13:17.600 --> 02:13:21.239
about poisoned Halloween candy is old right, like it was229202:13:21.279 --> 02:13:28.079
published in the early two thousands, or twenty ten's the229302:13:28.159 --> 02:13:30.640
false Case of the poison candy legend is another way229402:13:30.680 --> 02:13:34.760
that American fears manifested as an easily understood threat to innocence.229502:13:35.880 --> 02:13:39.479
Scholar David J. Skull, in his book Death Makes a Holiday,229602:13:40.000 --> 02:13:43.520
argues Halloween, throughout its history has provided a moment for229702:13:43.560 --> 02:13:49.960
people to unleash their political and cultural fears. As an example,229802:13:50.000 --> 02:13:54.119
Skoll notes Richard Nixon became the first president satirized by229902:13:54.119 --> 02:13:57.680
a rubber Halloween mask in the autumn of nineteen seventy four,230002:13:58.199 --> 02:14:02.239
just two months after his resignation. I remember that being230102:14:02.239 --> 02:14:08.680
a very big deal that that there were masks of him. Today,230202:14:08.760 --> 02:14:11.760
a majority of Americans of all ages see Halloween as230302:14:11.760 --> 02:14:16.039
an opportunity to celebrate excess, kind of like a dark230402:14:16.159 --> 02:14:17.960
Marty Gras. I don't know, depending on how you look230502:14:18.000 --> 02:14:19.880
at Marty Gras. I think Marti Gras might be the230602:14:19.960 --> 02:14:20.920
dark Marty Gras.230702:14:21.079 --> 02:14:22.600
Maybe.230802:14:24.399 --> 02:14:28.600
But some Christian churches, especially those who attend those attended230902:14:28.600 --> 02:14:33.000
by conservative Eangelicals, continue to declare a kind of war231002:14:33.079 --> 02:14:37.119
on Halloween every year. Many Evangelicals, in their own descriptions,231102:14:37.119 --> 02:14:40.079
see the holiday as a celebration of the occult often231202:14:40.199 --> 02:14:42.880
viewed in their religious worldview as connected to a very231302:14:43.039 --> 02:14:46.239
literal satan. I do want to mention because I was231402:14:46.239 --> 02:14:48.119
talking about this with a friend of mine the other day.231502:14:48.439 --> 02:14:52.640
We were talking about haunts and how you know, like231602:14:52.680 --> 02:14:55.079
haunted houses, spook houses, whatever, you know, places you go231702:14:55.159 --> 02:14:59.439
to get scared. And when I was a kid, all231802:14:59.479 --> 02:15:04.880
the haunted houses I went to were churches. No really, yeah,231902:15:05.119 --> 02:15:07.600
And I've noticed as I've gotten older that people don't232002:15:07.640 --> 02:15:11.279
talk about that very much. They talk about, you know,232102:15:11.399 --> 02:15:13.920
the hell houses, like the how the haunted houses where232202:15:13.920 --> 02:15:15.159
you go in and they just tell you all the232302:15:15.159 --> 02:15:17.640
things that you do if you sin, and you know232402:15:17.720 --> 02:15:19.600
what your soul will be, like torture. They're not common.232502:15:19.640 --> 02:15:22.319
I never saw one. I've heard of these like Christian232602:15:22.359 --> 02:15:24.960
haunted houses. And then you hear about like the old232702:15:24.960 --> 02:15:28.239
blue Hairs who are saying like, oh, it's satanic, it's evil,232802:15:28.319 --> 02:15:30.239
you can't go trick or treating. But when I was232902:15:30.239 --> 02:15:33.680
growing up, like the church folk loved Halloween. Yeah, they233002:15:33.680 --> 02:15:37.720
hosted bobbing for apples parties, you know, and they would233102:15:37.760 --> 02:15:41.359
do little tiny haunts to raise money for charity. And233202:15:41.399 --> 02:15:44.760
I went to at least two, maybe three haunted houses233302:15:45.039 --> 02:15:48.319
hosted by different churches in my babysitters neighborhood when I233402:15:48.399 --> 02:15:51.359
was a little kid, interesting so and they were all233502:15:51.359 --> 02:15:53.239
for charity. It was like, you know, and they were233602:15:53.279 --> 02:15:55.920
silly and goofy. I loved them. I've always said if233702:15:56.000 --> 02:15:59.600
I if I could do anything with my home, if233802:15:59.640 --> 02:16:02.039
my home a little bigger, I would turn my garage233902:16:02.039 --> 02:16:04.760
into like a little haunted house for trigger treaters, you know,234002:16:04.800 --> 02:16:06.520
with just like a few props and stuff. But it's234102:16:06.520 --> 02:16:08.000
just too impossible.234202:16:08.720 --> 02:16:10.920
I don't know. Actually, when I was growing up, there234302:16:10.960 --> 02:16:12.399
was a half in my neighborhood that did that with234402:16:12.439 --> 02:16:14.720
their garage. I don't think I ever went in there234502:16:14.720 --> 02:16:16.479
because it was kind of like out of the way234602:16:16.760 --> 02:16:17.279
a little bit.234702:16:17.680 --> 02:16:20.199
Uh huh. You were scared. Just admit you were scared.234802:16:20.720 --> 02:16:22.159
No, I'm not scared.234902:16:23.119 --> 02:16:25.279
Right, she was scared.235002:16:25.720 --> 02:16:28.039
I'm not. I don't be scared of things.235102:16:28.880 --> 02:16:32.120
You were scared. It's okay. People get scared. No, No,235202:16:33.680 --> 02:16:35.840
I'm just you were scared. It's all right, You're allowed235302:16:35.879 --> 02:16:40.120
to get scared. I was like ten, Yeah, a scared235402:16:40.159 --> 02:16:47.360
ten year old. Halloween, with its association with the powers235502:16:47.360 --> 02:16:51.319
of darkness, can allow many legends to flourish tales of235602:16:51.440 --> 02:16:57.200
dangerous outsiders, poisoned candy, and other alleged threats to American life.235702:16:57.840 --> 02:17:01.120
Social media may serve that role the rest of the year,235802:17:01.159 --> 02:17:05.719
but on Halloween, dark rumors may actually knock at the door.235902:17:07.239 --> 02:17:10.760
It's not a bad piece. Yeah, it got a little honestly,236002:17:10.840 --> 02:17:14.399
got a little sensational right there at the end itself,236102:17:14.440 --> 02:17:16.239
which is funny because I was talking about sensation. It's236202:17:16.239 --> 02:17:19.440
like all these people are like hate Halloween and are236302:17:19.479 --> 02:17:21.760
trying to whatever. It's like, yeah, some I guess. I236402:17:21.799 --> 02:17:25.719
actually never hear anti Halloween sentiment anymore from religious people.236502:17:29.040 --> 02:17:30.200
They could be out there, I'm sure.236602:17:30.040 --> 02:17:31.440
They are, but yeah, I mean I don't know.236702:17:33.079 --> 02:17:39.760
Well, fine, fine, shell. Well, speaking of I went to236802:17:39.760 --> 02:17:44.360
a haunted, a major haunted attraction last week and I236902:17:44.399 --> 02:17:49.479
went to Land of Illusion in Middletown, Ohio. Had a237002:17:49.520 --> 02:17:52.239
great time at six haunts in one night. I was237102:17:52.280 --> 02:17:54.680
basically drunk on spooky by the end of it because237202:17:55.120 --> 02:17:56.559
it was like almost one in the morning. I was237302:17:56.600 --> 02:17:59.000
so tired, and I had just been going from room237402:17:59.040 --> 02:18:02.600
to room with these like crazy lights and effects and stuff.237502:18:04.200 --> 02:18:08.120
And they did this one room called the Lights Out Room,237602:18:09.440 --> 02:18:13.840
and it was a maze And when it starts, you237702:18:13.879 --> 02:18:16.319
walk into a room and it's all painted bright white237802:18:16.399 --> 02:18:18.959
to look like a hospital room. Okay, and a guy237902:18:19.000 --> 02:18:21.159
gives you a speech about how to get through the maze,238002:18:21.479 --> 02:18:23.680
but literally he says the first rule is don't look up.238102:18:23.719 --> 02:18:26.639
And then he flips the switch and these giant floodlights238202:18:26.959 --> 02:18:30.520
turn on on the ceiling and they're like five times238302:18:30.520 --> 02:18:33.079
as bright as you would want lights to be. So238402:18:33.239 --> 02:18:35.639
he talks to you for forty seconds under that light238502:18:35.680 --> 02:18:38.280
and then puts you into a room where there's zero light.238602:18:38.319 --> 02:18:41.120
Everything's painted black and it's full of fog, so you238702:18:41.280 --> 02:18:44.440
are blind, like you're opening your eyes as white as238802:18:44.440 --> 02:18:48.000
you can and seeing nothing. It's awesome because it's so scary.238902:18:48.600 --> 02:18:51.920
Have you there's a thing in it?239002:18:52.040 --> 02:18:52.239
Used?239102:18:52.399 --> 02:18:57.479
I guess it's still there in the that science museum239202:18:57.639 --> 02:19:01.719
that's like right outside of New York and whatever the239302:19:01.760 --> 02:19:05.000
hell that's called, where there's a there's like an exhibit239402:19:05.040 --> 02:19:08.079
that you go through and it's completely pitch black and239502:19:08.120 --> 02:19:09.920
you just have to you just have to hold the239602:19:09.920 --> 02:19:11.479
side of the wall and go through it.239702:19:12.280 --> 02:19:12.639
Huh.239802:19:13.319 --> 02:19:16.360
I guess you've never been there, no, because why would239902:19:16.399 --> 02:19:17.000
you be there?240002:19:17.319 --> 02:19:19.959
Yeah? I was gonna, I was gonna, wasn't gonna.240102:19:19.200 --> 02:19:22.200
Be that super interesting? And you crawl at some point240202:19:22.319 --> 02:19:24.760
and you walk at some point you have to go240302:19:24.840 --> 02:19:25.559
over things.240402:19:25.879 --> 02:19:27.600
Yeah that sounds cool.240502:19:28.159 --> 02:19:28.719
Oh yes.240602:19:29.040 --> 02:19:30.840
The crazy part was that when I went through this,240702:19:30.879 --> 02:19:34.600
it was like eleven o'clock at night, and when I240802:19:34.639 --> 02:19:36.799
got out, I was like not quite right the rest240902:19:36.799 --> 02:19:38.680
of the night, like it like it like knocked my241002:19:38.760 --> 02:19:41.959
equilibrium around or something. It was really cool, though, that's241102:19:42.159 --> 02:19:43.399
I felt a little odd.241202:19:43.879 --> 02:19:45.760
Yeah, it's called the Liberty Science Center.241302:19:45.840 --> 02:19:49.799
Sorry, Oh okay, Liberty Science Center. Okay, Yeah, but so241402:19:49.920 --> 02:19:54.840
that was really fun. I went to all six exhibits,241502:19:54.879 --> 02:19:59.799
but or haunts but Doctor Psychos, which is the less241602:20:00.479 --> 02:20:04.479
more gross one. Last year, when I went to see241702:20:04.520 --> 02:20:07.200
Doctor Psycho, which was my first time, I got called241802:20:07.239 --> 02:20:11.479
out by Doctor Psycho as a movie director and then241902:20:11.639 --> 02:20:15.479
he like grab like kind of like not pushed me around,242002:20:15.159 --> 02:20:17.120
and he like kind of singled me out and like242102:20:17.440 --> 02:20:21.280
did creepy stuff. This year, when I went through, he242202:20:21.360 --> 02:20:24.600
called me out again, but this time he decided to242302:20:26.319 --> 02:20:28.639
His big gag is he gives his speech and then242402:20:28.680 --> 02:20:33.280
he eats worms nightcrawlers. He takes them out holds them242502:20:33.280 --> 02:20:35.120
out to make sure you can see they're real, and242602:20:35.120 --> 02:20:38.559
then he sucks them down. Wow, it's a geek act.242702:20:38.639 --> 02:20:41.079
I mean like like biting the heads off chickens, but242802:20:41.159 --> 02:20:43.920
much less violent and cruel, but like it's you know,242902:20:43.959 --> 02:20:47.000
eats worms. Yeah, they're worms. I mean, I just I'm243002:20:47.000 --> 02:20:48.959
not a huge fan of worms. I mean, not not243102:20:49.040 --> 02:20:50.120
that I want them to die, but I mean like243202:20:50.159 --> 02:20:54.719
they scare me. So he said hi to me and243302:20:54.760 --> 02:20:57.040
then like like gave me a side hug and just243402:20:57.079 --> 02:20:59.399
started talking to me in his voice. And then these243502:20:59.399 --> 02:21:01.360
teenage girls that were behind me in line, he like243602:21:01.840 --> 02:21:04.840
used me to scare them by slurping the worm really243702:21:04.920 --> 02:21:08.079
close to me and they were all screaming and I243802:21:08.159 --> 02:21:12.399
was trying not to gag. Yeah, And when I walked out,243902:21:12.559 --> 02:21:15.639
I had worm juice on my glasses because he had244002:21:15.680 --> 02:21:17.680
slurped it so close to my face.244102:21:17.959 --> 02:21:18.399
Wow.244202:21:19.879 --> 02:21:21.760
And then he facebooked me and was like awesome to244302:21:21.799 --> 02:21:23.719
see you, thanks for coming by, and I was like yep,244402:21:26.159 --> 02:21:29.319
but it was really really fun. So and by the244502:21:29.360 --> 02:21:30.920
time you guys hear this, I will have been to244602:21:30.959 --> 02:21:34.280
the Brimstone Haunt and I might even go again because244702:21:34.319 --> 02:21:37.319
they do lights out night or blackout Night the day244802:21:37.360 --> 02:21:40.319
after Halloween where all of the lights are off but244902:21:40.360 --> 02:21:43.079
the haunts are open, so you have to kind of245002:21:43.159 --> 02:21:46.680
manage around and it's extra creepy and weird. I don't know,245102:21:46.920 --> 02:21:49.200
I'm just I love haunts. I used to not be245202:21:49.200 --> 02:21:50.920
able to afford to go to them. Now I can245302:21:50.959 --> 02:21:55.600
afford to, and they're really fun good. So we're gonna245402:21:55.600 --> 02:21:57.520
take a quick break and we're gonna wrap things up245502:21:57.559 --> 02:22:00.840
talking about some horror media. We've looked at what's scary245602:22:00.879 --> 02:22:03.559
on Reddit and whatever else Michelle comes up with, because245702:22:03.600 --> 02:22:06.520
now it's her job to be as interesting as possible.245802:22:06.959 --> 02:22:16.920
What right after this? All right, we're back wrapping up245902:22:16.959 --> 02:22:22.719
this October edition of Monthly Spooky and our fortieth episode,246002:22:23.760 --> 02:22:27.639
which is kind of wild. I'm still wrapping my head246102:22:27.639 --> 02:22:31.239
around it. So first of all, I want to talk246202:22:31.239 --> 02:22:34.319
a little bit about horror media that I've been seeing246302:22:34.360 --> 02:22:37.120
in the theater. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to go246402:22:37.200 --> 02:22:40.600
to a bunch of like older movie screenings this year.246502:22:40.719 --> 02:22:42.520
There just weren't that many, and most of them were246602:22:42.520 --> 02:22:46.280
on Wednesdays, and I just couldn't make that work. I've246702:22:46.319 --> 02:22:48.319
been working, really Oh and they were all at like seven.246802:22:48.600 --> 02:22:50.200
I was like, if this was at nine, I could246902:22:50.200 --> 02:22:55.040
go I can't get away that early. I'm freaking I'm247002:22:55.079 --> 02:22:59.079
recording spooky stories like all adults. That's what's keeping me247102:22:59.120 --> 02:23:01.680
from doing that. I have to tell a scary story247202:23:01.680 --> 02:23:03.680
into a microphone in a dark room and give myself247302:23:03.719 --> 02:23:07.159
the creeps. That's literally my job. I will say there247402:23:07.159 --> 02:23:11.399
were days when I was recording that I was like tired,247502:23:11.639 --> 02:23:13.520
and I was kind of like, oh my god, okay,247602:23:13.600 --> 02:23:16.399
like I gotta get through this. There were also days247702:23:16.440 --> 02:23:18.280
I got really into the stories I was reading, and247802:23:18.319 --> 02:23:21.000
it definitely kept my Halloween vibe going because I'd be like,247902:23:21.040 --> 02:23:23.000
oh cool, I just spent most of my day reading248002:23:23.000 --> 02:23:27.079
a scary story. Like sounds fine by me. But I248102:23:27.120 --> 02:23:30.040
did manage to even with all that said, see three248202:23:30.399 --> 02:23:34.559
horror movies in the theater and one on streaming. That's248302:23:34.600 --> 02:23:39.920
brand new. Okay, So first up, I saw oh wait,248402:23:39.920 --> 02:23:43.239
you know what I saw last Rites Conjuring last month.248502:23:43.280 --> 02:23:44.760
We talked about that last month, so I'm not going248602:23:44.840 --> 02:23:47.239
to talk about that here, but it's still three. I248702:23:47.319 --> 02:23:51.239
saw The Strangers Chapter two, which is the second part248802:23:51.360 --> 02:23:57.440
of the Strangers series. The remake series really fun, like248902:23:57.680 --> 02:24:02.200
just a straight slasher horror movie with a lot of249002:24:02.319 --> 02:24:05.040
tension and suspense. A lot of people want to hate249102:24:05.040 --> 02:24:07.520
on those movies, and I don't know why. They're literally249202:24:07.639 --> 02:24:11.079
just horror movies for fun. Yeah they're not. They're not249302:24:11.120 --> 02:24:14.959
super dumb, they're not super smart. They're really fun. And249402:24:15.040 --> 02:24:18.120
there's an incident not incident, I mean it is an incident,249502:24:18.159 --> 02:24:20.360
but there's a scene where she's in the woods hiding249602:24:20.440 --> 02:24:24.959
from killers and she gets attacked by an unexpected like249702:24:25.079 --> 02:24:29.040
unexpected entity that like literally made me jump up on249802:24:29.040 --> 02:24:30.840
my seat and go, oh my god, this is wild,249902:24:30.920 --> 02:24:32.920
and I was like enamored the whole time.250002:24:33.239 --> 02:24:33.520
Cool.250102:24:34.559 --> 02:24:37.399
It's the second of a trilogy that's already been filmed,250202:24:37.639 --> 02:24:39.799
and often when they do that, the second movie is250302:24:39.879 --> 02:24:42.040
kind of the meandering movie, you know, like they're kind250402:24:42.040 --> 02:24:44.639
of on their way somewhere. This one set up so250502:24:44.760 --> 02:24:47.799
well that basically every friggin character you see might be250602:24:47.879 --> 02:24:51.200
one of the bat the murderers that's hunting this girl. Yeah,250702:24:51.239 --> 02:24:55.040
like everybody is untrustworthy and it's really really fun. I250802:24:55.079 --> 02:24:58.000
don't care. I think they're fun as hell. A lot250902:24:58.040 --> 02:25:01.440
of people are like it's just it's lame, and I251002:25:01.479 --> 02:25:03.920
was like, I was spooped the whole time. It wasn't251102:25:03.959 --> 02:25:06.680
like these horror movies where you know it's an artistic251202:25:06.719 --> 02:25:09.280
statement and then you hopefully get scared. Like it was251302:25:09.319 --> 02:25:12.680
just cool and fun. But I enjoyed it. Then I251402:25:12.719 --> 02:25:15.639
saw a movie that really blew me away in the theater,251502:25:16.719 --> 02:25:19.719
which is a movie called good Boy, A horror film251602:25:19.760 --> 02:25:21.920
from the perspective of a dog.251702:25:22.479 --> 02:25:22.840
Right.251802:25:24.159 --> 02:25:26.239
That was awesome. I saw it twice in the theater.251902:25:26.319 --> 02:25:28.079
I liked it so much I took Rachel to see252002:25:28.079 --> 02:25:31.639
it a second time. Cool. I loved it. It is252102:25:31.680 --> 02:25:33.840
a haunted house movie. A guy moves into a house252202:25:33.879 --> 02:25:37.000
with a dog and weird things start happening. It's from252302:25:37.000 --> 02:25:40.440
the dog's perspective, but not like the dog's literal pov.252402:25:40.600 --> 02:25:44.520
It's the dog is the main character, so the things252502:25:44.520 --> 02:25:46.840
that are happening how the dog reacts as the most252602:25:46.840 --> 02:25:49.799
important element. And I thought they did a great job252702:25:49.840 --> 02:25:52.760
of not only the dog was was did a really252802:25:52.760 --> 02:25:55.159
good job because they worked really hard. They shot for252902:25:55.200 --> 02:25:57.719
over two years, an hour to three hours at a time.253002:25:58.079 --> 02:25:58.479
Wow.253102:25:58.639 --> 02:26:00.959
The dog was not an actor dog or a trained dog.253202:26:01.000 --> 02:26:05.319
It was just their dog. And I thought they did253302:26:05.319 --> 02:26:07.600
a great job of the emotion of it. I thought253402:26:07.600 --> 02:26:09.719
they did a great job of making it about things253502:26:09.760 --> 02:26:14.440
a dog would be scared about, both intellectually and literally,253602:26:14.479 --> 02:26:16.280
like dogs are afraid of noises, but also like a253702:26:16.319 --> 02:26:18.840
dog would be afraid of their owner disappearing or dying253802:26:19.000 --> 02:26:21.079
or but they also wouldn't be able to understand, so253902:26:21.079 --> 02:26:24.319
maybe it would just be anxiety, you know, because dogs254002:26:24.360 --> 02:26:27.879
don't really like literally understand. They kind of understand, you know,254102:26:28.000 --> 02:26:30.719
they're animals, And I'm a dog person, so obviously I254202:26:30.799 --> 02:26:33.000
really like that too. My first thought when I came254302:26:33.000 --> 02:26:35.719
home and I saw Rachel's Cat e Too is I254402:26:35.760 --> 02:26:37.639
was just like, if the movie were a cat, the254502:26:37.680 --> 02:26:40.040
cat would just sleep happily while the guy was being254602:26:40.120 --> 02:26:43.920
killed by ghosts. Yeah, and that would be the whole movie.254702:26:44.639 --> 02:26:49.200
And then I saw The Black Phone Part two. I254802:26:49.280 --> 02:26:51.559
really liked it. I thought The Black Phone was a254902:26:51.559 --> 02:26:54.920
phenomenal movie, very scary. Part two was a little bit255002:26:55.040 --> 02:26:58.280
lighter on the scares and more fantastical. But I think255102:26:58.360 --> 02:27:01.319
it's hard to make a sequel just scary as the255202:27:01.319 --> 02:27:04.200
first one when the first one was extremely scary. But255302:27:04.280 --> 02:27:06.600
I really liked it. It was very eighties throwback, which255402:27:06.680 --> 02:27:08.879
everybody loves and I do too. I'm just getting a255502:27:08.879 --> 02:27:12.319
little burnout on nostalgia right now in movies. I kind255602:27:12.319 --> 02:27:15.280
of want like something modern right now. I don't know why.255702:27:15.319 --> 02:27:18.319
It's just kind of my vibe, but I liked it255802:27:18.319 --> 02:27:20.280
Black Phone two. I'm gonna go see it again maybe255902:27:20.319 --> 02:27:26.200
next Monday and then on two B. They just released256002:27:26.920 --> 02:27:32.600
last week R. L Stein's Pumpkinhead, a feature length adaptation256102:27:32.799 --> 02:27:36.559
of one of R. L Stein's Haunting Hour episodes where256202:27:36.600 --> 02:27:38.760
a young kid moves to a new town with his256302:27:38.840 --> 02:27:41.840
brother and finds out there's some kind of demonic farmer256402:27:41.959 --> 02:27:46.760
pumpkin patch packed with the devil, and it eats children256502:27:46.920 --> 02:27:48.159
to keep the crops growing.256602:27:48.600 --> 02:27:50.200
Okay, I mean that's how that would work.256702:27:50.760 --> 02:27:52.840
It was that's how it should work, right.256802:27:53.040 --> 02:27:53.520
Yeah.256902:27:53.559 --> 02:27:57.120
It was really fun. It was very cheesy and silly.257002:27:57.239 --> 02:28:01.159
It had a really dark ending. I was really I257102:28:01.280 --> 02:28:03.959
liked it, but I was very surprised by it, so257202:28:04.559 --> 02:28:07.319
that one's super fun. It was definitely geared for teenagers.257302:28:07.399 --> 02:28:09.079
So if you have like a twelve thirteen year old257402:28:09.200 --> 02:28:11.200
kid and you want to watch something for Halloween, I257502:28:11.239 --> 02:28:15.239
really recommend arl Stein's Pumpkinhead, which is streaming on to257602:28:15.399 --> 02:28:18.000
be for free. So those are the things I've watched,257702:28:19.120 --> 02:28:21.000
you know, other than I've watched like Nightmine, ELM Street257802:28:21.040 --> 02:28:22.879
movies because the new four K box that came out257902:28:22.920 --> 02:28:25.799
and stuff, and man they looked amazing Parts three, four,258002:28:25.799 --> 02:28:30.159
and five looked like unbelievably good, good, like really good.258102:28:30.239 --> 02:28:32.360
So that's what I got. Do you have anything in258202:28:32.360 --> 02:28:34.879
the world of Reddit to share with us on this258302:28:35.120 --> 02:28:36.559
spooky season? Um?258402:28:38.799 --> 02:28:42.559
Yes, I don't remember it. Let me see where it258502:28:42.639 --> 02:28:49.360
is follow out. Thanks. Okay, So there's this dude, I guess. Okay,258602:28:49.719 --> 02:28:52.040
this is from Glitch in the Matrix because the other258702:28:52.079 --> 02:28:56.319
one suck. So there's this dude and in like twenty258802:28:56.319 --> 02:29:00.239
twenty two, he's living somewhere in Ohio. Oh yeah, yeah,258902:29:00.239 --> 02:29:04.879
he's Ohio person. And he is driving home from somewhere259002:29:05.479 --> 02:29:08.239
like he I guess he was. I don't know where259102:29:08.280 --> 02:29:12.440
he was, Okay, I understand he was just dry. Yeah,259202:29:12.479 --> 02:29:14.239
I don't know where he was driving home from somewhere259302:29:14.719 --> 02:29:17.639
and he's I guess he's living in Ohio. He's like259402:29:17.680 --> 02:29:20.440
three hours away from home. He's passing through a city259502:29:20.479 --> 02:29:23.920
in Ohio, but he doesn't specify it, and he realizes259602:29:23.920 --> 02:29:28.559
that he's about to run out of gas, and he like,259702:29:28.680 --> 02:29:30.600
I think he just like just missed the gas station259802:29:30.680 --> 02:29:32.159
when he realized this, and he's like, I got a259902:29:32.159 --> 02:29:35.159
fine one and it's super it's like late at night too,260002:29:35.600 --> 02:29:39.399
so his whatever says that. Then there's an open gas station,260102:29:39.559 --> 02:29:42.559
like and it's pretty far away like the next one,260202:29:42.600 --> 02:29:44.920
and he's like, I don't think I can even make that.260302:29:45.440 --> 02:29:47.360
And then he looks off to the side and he260402:29:47.440 --> 02:29:49.840
sees that at the next exit. I think it's a260502:29:50.920 --> 02:29:53.879
let's see what it was. I think it was like260602:29:53.920 --> 02:29:54.559
a speedway.260702:29:55.719 --> 02:29:59.920
Well that would be ohio, I wish I could.260802:30:00.000 --> 02:30:05.159
I wish my brain would just work a little bit. Yeah, speedway. Yeah, okay.260902:30:05.600 --> 02:30:07.319
So he's like, yeah, he can see from the freeway261002:30:07.360 --> 02:30:12.079
he's gonna get off. So he gets off. He he261102:30:12.159 --> 02:30:15.799
tries to, you know, put his credit card in the thingy,261202:30:16.399 --> 02:30:19.639
and it doesn't accept it for some reason, like you know,261302:30:19.719 --> 02:30:21.360
have you ever had that happen where you like try261402:30:21.360 --> 02:30:23.360
to swipe your card in a gas station it doesn't work.261502:30:23.600 --> 02:30:25.799
So he's like, it's probably the pump. So he just261602:30:25.840 --> 02:30:27.799
like goes in and he's like, can you just to261702:30:27.920 --> 02:30:32.959
the uh, the the person at the the cashier, Sure,261802:30:33.040 --> 02:30:36.520
the cash here, He says, can you just can you261902:30:36.639 --> 02:30:38.879
do it here? And the guy tries to swipe his262002:30:38.920 --> 02:30:41.840
card and it gets declined and he's like, okay, so262102:30:41.879 --> 02:30:43.440
he's like, I can just pay with cash. No big262202:30:43.479 --> 02:30:45.840
do So I guess he pumps and he goes back262302:30:46.159 --> 02:30:48.239
to pay with cash or whatever. The hell. I don't262402:30:48.280 --> 02:30:52.399
know how this works, and and he asked, and he262502:30:52.479 --> 02:30:55.000
also sees like he also gets like a pack of cigarettes.262602:30:55.399 --> 02:30:57.440
And the guy's like, I thought you were quitting. And262702:30:57.479 --> 02:31:00.479
he's just like, why would he think that? Like I262802:31:00.520 --> 02:31:02.600
don't know him.262902:31:03.319 --> 02:31:06.399
I will say, that's a quip I would I would263002:31:06.440 --> 02:31:08.799
do if somebody if I had to like hand people263102:31:08.840 --> 02:31:10.360
packs of cigarettes for them to buy them.263202:31:10.920 --> 02:31:14.000
Okay, well it doesn't matter. He just thought it. He263302:31:14.040 --> 02:31:15.840
thought it was a little weird because he's like, you know,263402:31:15.920 --> 02:31:17.920
I know a lot of people I hang out places263502:31:18.040 --> 02:31:21.479
that's could happen. So he leaves, he goes home, everything's fine,263602:31:22.000 --> 02:31:25.719
and then you know he I guess he routinely drives263702:31:25.760 --> 02:31:29.079
that area every once in a while and he has263802:31:29.200 --> 02:31:31.920
never seen that speedway again, Like he's always kind of263902:31:31.959 --> 02:31:34.559
looking for it when he passes that area. Because I264002:31:34.559 --> 02:31:36.520
think he had like I think the experience was just264102:31:36.559 --> 02:31:39.120
really nice, Like he had a really nice time getting264202:31:39.159 --> 02:31:41.559
gas there and the guy was really nice and everything.264302:31:41.639 --> 02:31:44.040
So he's like, that's speedway, like saved my life. So264402:31:44.079 --> 02:31:45.520
he's looking for it all the time and he never264502:31:45.559 --> 02:31:49.399
sees it. So like I think, like this year or something,264602:31:49.879 --> 02:31:53.680
he ends up moving to whatever that city is in Ohio, right,264702:31:54.040 --> 02:31:56.719
and he ends up moving right by where that speedway264802:31:56.719 --> 02:31:58.920
would have been, like right on that exit, and there's264902:31:58.959 --> 02:32:01.799
not a speedway there. There's not anything.265002:32:02.959 --> 02:32:03.719
There's a valero.265102:32:07.559 --> 02:32:10.360
No, I actually there's not a speedway, but there is265202:32:10.399 --> 02:32:13.840
something being constructed there, and he goes and finds out265302:32:13.840 --> 02:32:14.719
that it's a speedway.265402:32:15.719 --> 02:32:20.959
Well, okay, so I can give some insight being an265502:32:20.959 --> 02:32:25.920
Ohio man. Okay, there are speedways being constructed literally just265602:32:25.920 --> 02:32:26.680
about everything.265702:32:26.760 --> 02:32:29.280
Okay. But but but he's saying that there wasn't a265802:32:29.319 --> 02:32:31.799
speedway and now there's going to be one. And if265902:32:31.840 --> 02:32:34.000
he's right, and he might not be right about the exit,266002:32:34.040 --> 02:32:36.920
he could be wrong, but if he's right, maybe he266102:32:37.000 --> 02:32:40.559
visited this this future and that's why his cards.266202:32:41.520 --> 02:32:44.040
Yeah yeah, okay, No, I mean I get that, I266302:32:44.079 --> 02:32:46.040
dig that. I just it's just funny to hear, Like266402:32:46.280 --> 02:32:48.159
and I saw a place where speedway is being built,266502:32:48.159 --> 02:32:49.360
It's like, yes, that's everywhere.266602:32:49.520 --> 02:32:51.200
Yeah, I mean it was like it was like if266702:32:51.239 --> 02:32:53.120
I saw wah wah being built, Like.266802:32:53.120 --> 02:32:55.920
Yeah, although now it's sheets we're having, Like it feels266902:32:55.920 --> 02:32:59.239
like a sheets is popping up everywhere over here. But no,267002:32:59.360 --> 02:33:01.079
that that that that's a pretty creepy one. I mean,267102:33:01.159 --> 02:33:03.760
like the idea of going to a you know, a267202:33:03.799 --> 02:33:06.120
place where a gas station and seeing like a gas267302:33:06.120 --> 02:33:09.079
station being built is very creepy. I feel like I267402:33:09.120 --> 02:33:12.600
watched a movie where something like that happened.267502:33:14.079 --> 02:33:16.639
A gas station is being built, where.267602:33:16.360 --> 02:33:18.120
Like somebody went to a place and then when they267702:33:18.120 --> 02:33:20.559
came back, it was being built. Like it was like267802:33:20.559 --> 02:33:24.920
a little time shifty thing. That's pretty creepy. I like that. Also,267902:33:25.239 --> 02:33:27.239
if they were in Ohio and they were driving three268002:33:27.239 --> 02:33:29.920
hours to home, that means they either live in Cincinnati268102:33:30.000 --> 02:33:34.079
or Dayton and we're going to Cleveland or Akron or268202:33:34.200 --> 02:33:38.959
vice versa, okay, because there's not much else unless they268302:33:38.959 --> 02:33:42.879
were going to like hike out in south you know,268402:33:43.079 --> 02:33:46.040
south east Ohio, because there's very little in southeast Ohio.268502:33:47.399 --> 02:33:49.559
But yeah, if you're driving three hours. In Ohio, you're268602:33:49.559 --> 02:33:51.879
pretty much going from one side to the other. You're268702:33:51.920 --> 02:33:53.840
either going from the southwest to the northeast or from268802:33:53.840 --> 02:33:57.120
the northeast to the southwest, because you can't go like268902:33:57.120 --> 02:34:00.000
if you go to Toledo to Dayton or Cincinnati, that's269002:34:00.079 --> 02:34:03.280
not three hours. If you're going from there to from269102:34:03.399 --> 02:34:06.680
Toledo to Cleveland, that's still not even close to three eyes,269202:34:06.680 --> 02:34:09.000
like two and a half at most, probably less. Yeah,269302:34:09.079 --> 02:34:11.399
so it's probably coming from one side to the other.269402:34:12.680 --> 02:34:19.159
That's my Ohio insight for today. Tang So, but thank269502:34:19.200 --> 02:34:22.479
you Chell, and thank you seriously for doing the show269602:34:22.479 --> 02:34:23.840
with me. It really doesn't mean a lot to me269702:34:24.040 --> 02:34:26.079
to be able to sit down with you and laugh269802:34:26.120 --> 02:34:30.600
about stupid, stupid, spooky, dumb news stuff and read about269902:34:30.600 --> 02:34:34.680
Halloween candy, and you always put up with my weird everything,270002:34:34.799 --> 02:34:35.680
so I appreciate it.270102:34:36.239 --> 02:34:41.440
Okay, I didn't do anything, so oh okay, all right,270202:34:41.479 --> 02:34:42.799
Well fine then, jeez.270302:34:43.159 --> 02:34:45.319
But on that note, we're gonna we're gonna get out270402:34:45.319 --> 02:34:47.879
of here and get ready to celebrate the remainder of270502:34:47.920 --> 02:34:52.040
our spooky season. We hope yours is going wonderfully. Thank270602:34:52.120 --> 02:34:54.040
you so much for listening with us. Remember you should270702:34:54.719 --> 02:34:57.239
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Make sure you're subscribed because we have a brand new271502:35:19.799 --> 02:35:23.639
trick or Treats for twenty twenty five and Jack Scratch271602:35:23.799 --> 02:35:28.040
is back telling three scary scary stories. So thank you271702:35:28.079 --> 02:35:31.520
all again. We'll see you next month. I cannot wait,271802:35:31.600 --> 02:35:34.600
and Cell, go on, give us something spooky to wrap271902:35:34.639 --> 02:35:44.879
it all up. Jax's too scary, too freaking scary. We272002:35:44.920 --> 02:36:08.079
didn't even have a trigger warning.
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