July 24, 2026

Cutting Deep into Horror | Found Footage Horror: The Houses October Built (2014)

Cutting Deep into Horror | Found Footage Horror: The Houses October Built (2014)
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Cutting Deep Into Horror

Key Takeaways

  • Henrique Couto and Rachael Redolfi dive deep into the 2014 found footage horror film The Houses October Built during their Summerween double feature.
  • The discussion explores the blurred lines between fictional found footage and real haunted attractions, genuine haunt performers, and extreme-tourism fears.
  • The hosts compare The Houses October Built with Hell House LLC, examining why human villains and underground attractions like the Blue Skeleton are so unsettling.
  • Listeners are reminded to double-check their streaming selections, as a 2010/2011 early passion project by the same name exists alongside the official 2014 theatrical release.
  • The episode touches on personal haunt experiences, extreme haunts like McKamey Manor, and the unique psychological dread of modern Halloween tourism.

Join filmmaker Henrique Couto as Cutting Deep into Horror explores The Houses October Built (2014)—a found footage nightmare about five friends hunting the most extreme haunted houses across America. Discover how this supernatural folklore film captures real haunted-house horror, extreme-tourism fears, and the dark secrets lurking behind roadside attractions. Perfect for early Halloween spooky season listening.

Henrique is joined by Rachael Redolfi for a spoiler-filled review of director Bobby Roe’s Halloween horror film, which blends fictional found footage with real haunted attractions, genuine haunt performers and documentary-style material.The group’s road trip becomes increasingly dangerous as their search for a secret underground attraction called the Blue Skeleton draws the attention of masked performers who begin following, filming and confronting them far beyond the supposed safety of the haunts.

Henrique and Rachael discuss the film’s documentary origins, its countdown toward October 31 and the way it transforms the excitement of Halloween tourism into something threatening and deeply uncomfortable.The conversation explores:

  • The documentary origins of The Houses October Built
  • Real haunted houses and Halloween attractions
  • Henrique and Rachael’s personal haunt experiences
  • Touch passes and interactive haunted attractions
  • The mystery surrounding the Blue Skeleton
  • Haunted-house actors dealing with frightened or violent guests
  • Extreme haunt legends and McKamey Manor
  • The difference between theatrical scares and genuine abuse
  • Why human villains can be more frightening than supernatural monsters
  • Comparisons with Hell House LLC
Then Henrique and Rachael go completely behind the curtain to explain The Houses October Built ending, including the kidnapping at the Halloween festival, the group being separated, the coffins, the threat of being burned alive and Brandy’s horrifying buried-alive finale.Does the movie’s ambiguous conclusion make it more frightening? Is the Blue Skeleton an extreme haunted attraction, a criminal organization or something even darker? And why does this unsettling movie continue to stand out among modern Halloween found footage films?Celebrate Summerween, enjoy some Halloween in July horror, and begin building your early Halloween movie watchlist with The Houses October Built.

Next time on Cutting Deep into Horror, Henrique and Rachael continue their Summerween haunted-attraction double feature with Hell House LLC.

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Frequently Asked Questions

What is The Houses October Built (2014) about?

It is a found footage horror film about five friends on a road trip across America who attempt to hunt down the most extreme, terrifying, and underground haunted houses, eventually attracting the attention of sinister masked performers.

Where can you stream The Houses October Built?

The 2014 movie is available on various platforms including Pluto TV and Plex with ads, while Shutter also features original documentary-style early versions from the filmmakers.

What is the Blue Skeleton in The Houses October Built?

The Blue Skeleton is the legendary, highly secretive underground extreme haunted attraction that the main characters are desperately trying to track down throughout the film.

What other movie is discussed alongside The Houses October Built in this episode?

The hosts pair this film with Hell House LLC as part of their Summerween haunted-attraction double feature.

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All right, come this way through the darkened gates of hell. Thundersound.

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I wasn't supposed to read that so spooky. It is

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very very spooky. This, this building was made on an

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ancient Indian burial ground.

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It was a ponderosa, but a ponderosa doomed to fail,

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as all ponderosas were. No, only this one was built

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on an ancient Indian burial ground. If you look this way,

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out a thank you for looking. We paid cash for

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the strobe light.

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Now if you look over here you can see the

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menu from the doomed Ponderosa. No horrifying.

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There's nothing nothing on this earth more terrifying than an

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ancient Indian burial ground combined with the horrifying and deeply

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disturbing margins of restaurants. No, it's so awful thunder sound.

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This podcast is about why horror scares us, what deep, dark,

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secret scary cinema shines a light on. The discussions are

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frank and involve conversations about abuse, trauma, and mental health.

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There are also spoilers, so keep that in mind too. Now,

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sharpen your machetes and strap raisers, because this is cutting

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deep into horror.

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Welcome back to Cutting Deep into Horror. I am, of course,

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your host, Enrique Kuto here with my co host Rachel RIDOLFI. Rachel,

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how are you hungry?

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Oh, you're hungry? I wanna, I wanna. I wanna say

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something before we get into our film, and that is

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of water because I'm on a fast and it's not

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going quickly, ironically enough. And I peek my head into

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the kitchen and Rachel has a cold slice of pizza

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just hanging out of her mouth while she's I guess

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doing something else, like getting a cup of water or something.

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so it's not even a meal time.

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Yeah, so the Ponderosa talk made you hungry?

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If I've ever even eaten at a Ponderosa Oh, you

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in the middle of a fast and you like to

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recklessly eat around me while I'm fasting. It's good to

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it is the dead emphasis on dead of summer right now.

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gonna take a We're gonna take a detour here soon

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from the found footage movies. But I realized that you

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had never seen the Houses October Built. But the problem

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with the Houses October Built is that it instantly makes

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me think of Hell House LLC. And I sometimes confuse

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the two in my head. I know they're two separate movies,

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October Built and which one is Hell House LLC? Like

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I have trouble with that. So we decided to do

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back to back the Houses October Built, and then next

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show will do Hell House LLC.

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So, and they're both found footage horror films. And this

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is part of kind of doing our summer Ween thing. Yeah,

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all the kids are talking about the summer Ween, doing

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the summer celebration of Halloween, because you know, it's like dead.

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could be wrong.

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temperatures and you're a little more cozy and during the summer. Oh,

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I thought you that winter.

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No, I'm with you. I'm with you. No. I was

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more talking about how summer is so unlike fall. Yeah,

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but yeah, I know, I'm with you. I get what

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you're saying. But yeah, it kind of makes you. It

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kind of makes you yearn for the fall, for thin,

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sweater weather, you know, for those for those three and

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a half days a year where the weather's perfect. So

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that's why we decided to do our little Halloween in

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the Summer episodes, starting with The Houses October Built, which

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was made in twenty fourteen, and it was directed by

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Bobby Rowe. And I meant to double check where it's

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available right now. I believe it's it's not on Shutter.

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We learned that the hard way.

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Yeah, we'll have to talk about that.

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Yeah, we made we made a mistakes were made. But

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it looks like it's also available on Pluto TV Free

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with Ads, Plex Free with Ads and some other places too.

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Just don't let it. Don't let them confuse you, because

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I went to watch The House's October Belt with you

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on Shutter Yeah, and it wasn't that film. It was

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a different film by the same makers. It was basically

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the inspiration film.

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Yeah, like the thesis that film or whatever.

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Yeah, apparently, I mean, did you dig deeper into where

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that came from or.

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No, I dug a little bit deeper into it. I

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guess like Bobby Rowe had made it as a passion project,

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and then when he was showing it to people, they

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were like, wow, this is amazing. When he took it

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to a film festival, everyone like, yeah, you need to

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do something with this.

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So the original Houses October Built, which is like twenty

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ten arrange, it was a very low budget, very you know,

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see to your pants found footage film, because what the

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House is October Built is about is a group of filmmakers,

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because it's a found footage movie, so of course it

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starts with a group of filmmakers. A group of filmmakers

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decide they're going to capture a bunch of haunts and

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kind of capture the experience, but also like try to

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dig into the more folkloric side of haunts, the idea

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that there are ones so scary and so extreme you

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could die, or they use dead bodies or whatever. And

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the original Houses October Built was actually almost entirely a

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haunt documentary with a little found footage flavor and a

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shock a scare ending, which I can't lie worked really well,

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it really did. I hadn't seen The House of October

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Bilt in about five years, so when we were watching

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it and it stars mostly the same people. As we

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were watching it, I was like, man, I didn't remember this,

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and man I didn't remember this, and man, this is

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a slow burn, but I do like it. And when

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it ended, I was like, something's up. And then you

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went to sleep and I told you in the morning,

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I was like, that wasn't the right one. As I

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was watching, as I was thinking about it, I was like,

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there was a lot more that happened in the movie

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I saw. I'm pretty sure. So if you love the

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House is October Built, it's totally worth watching. And I

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guess it's like a Shutter exclusive because it's that original version.

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It's also like way more dated, way more like the

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dawn of iPhone era life, which I got a real

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kick out of time capsule. Yeah, exactly, so that one.

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But don't accidentally watch The Houses October Built twenty eleven

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or twenty ten. Make sure it's the two thoy and

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fourteen one, and you will get a real kick out

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of this film. It's it's got a lot of fun

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stuff going on, but it's also just it's it's dripping

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with Halloween because the idea is that in the last

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couple of weeks of Halloween of October, they're checking out

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all these haunts, and they're real haunts and real haunt actors.

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It's just that they is also a found footage movie.

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So it's all kind of happening at the same time, right,

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and it's really fun. I didn't go Cuckoo Bananes for

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The Houses October Built Part two, but I did get

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a kick out of it, So we won't be talking

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about that here tonight. We're talking about the original The Og.

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The Og and a film that was helped in major

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part by RLJ, which is actually kind of the parent

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company of Shutter to get it kind of released wider,

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and I think Jason Blum had something to do with

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it a little bit or something. But it doesn't matter.

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We're going to take a quick break and we come back.

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We're going to start really laying out what happens, just

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what happens in the House of october Ville. I guess

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you could say we'll lay the foundation. Oh yeah, yeah,

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I don't get it either. Right after this, so during

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the break, Rachel was apologizing for taunting me with food

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because of bringing up the ponderosa thing and then bringing

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up being hungry after that, that making her hungry so

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earlier this week on Wednesday, we had a brand new

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horror story on Weekly Spooky. It was called Camping with

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Chupacabra and by Douglas Waltz, and I loved that story

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turned out great. Doug and I workshopped that one together.

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I told him, I was like, I love a choopacabra thing.

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That's like summertime. But the thing I hadn't considered because

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I was at the I was recording that story on

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the second half of a forty eight hour fast, so

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like really late in the fasting phase. He describes in

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length early on the food that the camp cook in

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Puerto Rico makes for everybody. So he described muffungo. Oh no,

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which is a food I haven't had in forever. I

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need to just make some muffungo for those story. It's

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deep fried mashed plantains with pork cracklands, oil.

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And.

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Garlic, a lot of garlic. And it's like mashed potatoes

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with some meat and stuff. It's so so good. You

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bash it up in a mortar and pestle. Oh, it's

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so good. But no, that was torture. And I'm sitting

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in a dark room just reading like it describing it

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described the desserts and stuff too, and I was just like,

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what agony?

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Torture, absolute torture, absolute torture.

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But speaking of torture, yeah, haunts, some people feel like

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they're torture. Some people feel like they're fun. And that's

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what our film is about. So before we dive fully

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into the houses, October built, what do you think about haunts?

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Because I had you been gone to any haunts before

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I took you to one? No?

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No, you took me my first haunt.

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Wow. Yeah, this is something I think I've talked about

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this before, maybe not with you, but like in the

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olden days, probably the days a little bit earlier than

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we are here, for neighborhood haunts and haunts run by

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churches were super common. And I and I don't mean these.

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There was a documentary called hell House that came out

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in like five oh six somewhere there that was about

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like Christian themed haunted houses where it's like we're burning

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in yeah.

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Hell houses there.

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Yeah, yeah, But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking

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about just the neighborhood church would put on goofy costumes

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and put on the put up the strobe light, and

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put up the cobwebs, and you would get to walk

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through a little spot of it, and they'd make it

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this little haunt for you. It's so weird because that

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was so common in the in some of the eighties

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and nineties, and then people got a little bit more

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about it. But before that or later than that too,

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I mean even today. One of the number one people

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organizations that put on haunts are jc's j's. You don't

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know a jc's are. No, I knew she wouldn't know

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what jc's are. You know why, I don't know.

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I just kicking them.

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So j c's, which used to be known as JCI USA,

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which is the United States Junior Chamber, are civic leadership

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and community service organization for young people okay, but not children,

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young adults okay, eighteen to forty. So there are branches

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like all over America and I think the rest of

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the country too. The whole idea is to empower young

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people to create positive change in their communities. So we

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have a jc's haunted house still in Dayton. I think

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they're called like the West Side j C's or something

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like that. I can't remember now, but jc's would do

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haunted houses and they do it to raise money for

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their organization because they're a charity. Yeah, so it's very

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very common for you to like see like the Miami

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Valley Jc's, you know, Skeleton Farm or whatever they name

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the haunt. So that's one organization that was like pushing

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haunts for a very long time and still does in

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a lot of areas.

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So so the first haunt I took you to your

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first haunt then, hm, because I went to a few.

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I went on a haunted hay ride when I was

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really young, and it scared the ever loving hell out

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of me. A guy with a chains I was chasing

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after our trailer, very very spooky. I'm guessing it was

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down by Middletown. I was really young, I'm talking like

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eight seven eight years old, so I don't remember where

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it was, but I would guess Middletown. What was the

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first where did I take you? Was it?

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It was the I mean, I always call it spooky

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haw but it's oh, oh.

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Yeah, of course. See I forget about that one because

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we were invited.

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To terror Town terror Town Town, LLC.

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That's not what it's called not anymore.

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They changed their name.

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I think you think hell House LLC.

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Their Facebook page. I remember because I followed them on

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Facebook for a while.

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But oh yeah, but it didn't say that on the

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sign though.

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No, not on the sign.

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It was all Hallows Eve, terror Town on the sign.

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Yeah.

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So they're out by a little bit more toward like Cincinnati.

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There are ways away, about an hour hour and fifteen

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minute drive, I think. But that was really cool. It

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was literally an old West town, but they make it

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all haunted and it was really a blast. They invited

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me there as a influencer two years in a row,

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and then apparently they just stopped doing that, so it

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wasn't just me, They just don't do that anymore. Yeah,

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but they were just starting. I mean I felt for

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them because I could tell that there was a lot

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of stuff that wasn't ready and they were trying their

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best to still make it really fun. And I scare easily,

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so it was not a problem for them to get

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me pretty scared.

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Oh yeah, I mean they do a great job.

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There, they do, they do. But what were your first

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thoughts then? Walking into a spooky yeha I.

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I was actually like I was absolutely smitten, uh from

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the get go, because it was it was kind of

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like the perfect the perfect introductory experience. And I don't

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know if you remember this, because we you know, we

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got there, we got there a little bit early. We're

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standing in line and uh waiting for them to like

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open up. And there was some guys like toward the

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front of the line and they started like being a

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little rowdy, and Haunt actors came out. They were trying

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to like introduce their show, and these guys in the

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front started heckling them. Well, they were actually plants.

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They weren't in the front either. They were three they

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were three spaces behind us.

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It was behind us, that's right.

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Yeah, yeah, they were plants because the count actors all

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came up and grabbed them and like beat them up

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a little bit and threw them into the thing. And

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then when we came in they were in the stocks.

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Yeah.

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No, that was solid. That was a very solid one.

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And the funny thing is they were being so obnoxious.

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Even the like the couple next to us was like, guys,

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just like shut up, let us enjoy it now. Of course,

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then there was the drunk guy ahead of us in

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the actual haunt who was like literally trying to ruin

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the whole experience that that.

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I may have been confusing myself because of him.

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Well, yeah, well there's always one at these haunts where

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it's just like, I'm not even scared. See how not

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scared I am Because I'm not even scared. I'm not

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even scared. It's like, cool, then go somewhere else, something

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that you'll enjoy.

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Then, yeah, stop ruining it for the rest of us.

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Yes, be in a freaking wet blanket on a Tuesday afternoon.

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I hate you. I just made that up.

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I'm going to use it.

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Oh it's a good one.

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Yeah, actually good one.

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So okay, So that was your first haunt experience, Like

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I said, I think mine was. I know, I know

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that at some point when I was younger, I went

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to a church haunted house because my babysitter was very religious.

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But I don't. I like I remember like a rec

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center or something, but I don't. And like, uh, and

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maybe they did, like the you know, put your hand

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in the thing and like, oh it's O for guts.

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All this is peeled eyeballs.

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And it's clearly just a grape.

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Well you can't see it's yeah, that's mind's eye. But

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I'm almost certain i'd been told I went to one

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of those, and I think I have like very vague

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memories of it. But what I really remember is that

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haunted hay ride with the guy with the chainsaw chasing

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after us. That was so cool. But since then, I mean,

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the Dayton, Ohio area, we are maggoty with haunts. We

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have so many haunts. I haven't gone to all of

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them yet. I'm hoping this year to go almost every

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weekend if I can find people that will go with me.

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Nobody ever wants to go with me.

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Well, I have weekends for you now, so.

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Yeah, but then you'll be like, I'm so cold after

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we've been there twenty five minutes you start.

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But I still like, once we start having fun, I

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think I'm generally pretty game.

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You probably gonna die in the cold.

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I mean, yeah, that goes without saying, But that doesn't

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mean I can't be game beforehand.

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That's a fair point. That's a fair point. Well, we're

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gonna take a quick break and we come back. We'll

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dive into the particulars of the haunts. They're looking at

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in the Houses October built. Right after this, the movie.

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Starts with a group of friends from Ohio. Of course

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they are because because of course they are.

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Because why wouldn't they be. It's always it's always Ohio.

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It's always it's always been Ohio.

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The heart of it all.

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So a group of filmmakers and friends from Ohio, they've

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decided that leading up to Halloween, they're going to film

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themselves visiting a whole bunch of haunts across the country,

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trying to find the most extreme haunted houses. And the

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first haunt that they go to is kind of your

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standard there, uh, you know, the the strobe lights and

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you know, haunt actors just kind of like jumping out

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at you. And the the friends are some of the friends,

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three of them, they're pretty like they're they're into it,

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they're having fun. But the leader is it Bobby. He's

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like really intent on the fact that the stars scares

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have to be more extreme, and he calls like what

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they're experiencing like pedestrians scares. Yeah, uh, And he's kind

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of a like kind of an asshole to some of

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this the Haunt actors and antagonizes them a little bit.

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But it gets worse because the Haunt actors tell them like,

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you're not allowed to be filming, and Bobby tells them like, no,

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just keep just keep filming, and that really pisses off

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the Haunt actors.

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Well, it's worth mentioning. Before the film even starts, we

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get like, we get a peek forward in time as

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we see Brandy like beaten up in locked in a trunk,

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and then we go back in time.

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That's right, because I was mixing up this one in

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the twenty ten.

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That's what I was afraid you'd do. But no, so

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but that makes but that also helps kind of establish

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the tension of knowing like something bad is going to

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happen to these people, and yeah, they're they're going to

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the Haunts, and they just the characters range a lot

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because there's Brandy. She's kind of the she's the only girl,

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and she's kind of the host of this documentary, and

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she's also very clearly a longtime friend of most of

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the people there. Yeah, because you've got her boyfriend Zach,

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and then cameraman Jeff, and then Bobby and Mikey. So

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it's gonna be hard to keep them all split up.

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But like we have like the heavy set you know,

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funny guy, and the producer guy who's like a bit stressed,

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and the creative guy you know who's directing it. And yeah,

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but you're right, he is, like he's kind of pushing

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because I think that as they're visiting more haunts. And

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it's great, you get to see these haunts, you get

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to see people waiting outside them, you get to talk

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to the actors a little bit. It's fun, it is,

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but you could see how the which was the guy

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who was being a jerk, Bobby Bobby, you could see

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how he would feel like, since it's his money, I

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believe he's the one who's paying for it. You could

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see how he feels like they're not getting anything particularly special. Yeah,

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you know, they're just kind of getting the usual stuff.

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You know, here's the usual scares, the usual boo, the usual, this,

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the usual that. So I could see why he would

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want to push, and he kind of starts laying those

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little the little groundwork of like what's the scariest haunt

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you've heard of? Like, is there any place you've heard

448
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:37.319
of that's maybe like underground, And at some point they

449
00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:40.680
get wind of a story about a haunt. Actor who

450
00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:44.880
went home and killed their whole family. Yeah, and that

451
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:52.400
kind of sets his imagination on fire. Yeah, so it's

452
00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:54.720
the atmosphere of it's really cool because I mean they're

453
00:24:54.759 --> 00:24:58.240
driving around, they're seeing all these sights and meeting these

454
00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:04.519
Haunt actors. A having a little bit of friction, especially

455
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:06.000
when it comes to the haunts that don't want you

456
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:08.079
to film inside the actual haunt, which most of them

457
00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:10.799
do not want you to film inside the actual haunt

458
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:13.799
unless they give you, like explicit for permission. You're not

459
00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:16.880
supposed to pull your phone out and film anything nothing

460
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:18.480
like that, which makes sense because you don't want to

461
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:20.720
spoil it. People will see it and it'll be spoiled.

462
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:24.920
Yeah, it's like peeling peeking back behind the curtain, like

463
00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:26.400
it just ruins the illusion.

464
00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:28.359
Well it's not even behind the curtain, you're just seeing

465
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:31.680
the show. Yeah, it's just but they's supposed to surprise you.

466
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:33.680
I mean, even if you went last year, they always

467
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:36.480
change enough to make sure you still get freaked out

468
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:40.359
at a good haunt. So but yeah, so the friction's

469
00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:42.279
going on, and of course there's a friction between all

470
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:45.599
the friends, although there is a pretty solid camaraderie attitude

471
00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:47.559
of like for the most part that like we're all

472
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:49.960
old friends, like where none of us are actually that

473
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:53.160
mad at each other. So I like the dichotomy. I

474
00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:55.799
think that the interactions really help sell it.

475
00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:59.720
Oh no, I absolutely agree. And you really start to

476
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:07.839
feel for especially like Bobby and Zach and Brandy. You

477
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.240
really start to feel for them, those three because they

478
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.599
are kind of like the heart and soul of the

479
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:19.039
work team, and everyone kind of like orbits around them,

480
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:24.759
So it's up to them to keep the whole project going.

481
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:29.279
But there is kind of that question that that Brandy

482
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:34.319
and Zach pose fairly early on, which is like is

483
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:38.920
this safe? Like should we really keep pursuing this, And

484
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:43.759
of course Bobby's answer is always an unequivocal yes, we should.

485
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:46.400
We should keep digging. We should keep digging more and more,

486
00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:49.640
and like the further we're we're gonna dig, like, the

487
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.920
more we're gonna get for our film, and this is

488
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.119
going to be great. And one of the things that

489
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.720
I really loved was the countdown to Halloween.

490
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:02.720
Yeah, yeah, I kept showing how many days till Halloween.

491
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:06.039
Yeah, that was great, not just for the atmosphere of

492
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.559
the film, and not just because it made me more

493
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:12.480
and more excited for Halloween. But because the very very

494
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:15.680
first scene of the movie was Brandy getting thrown into

495
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.759
a trunk, you kind of every time that that, you know,

496
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:23.119
Halloween draws one day closer, you're like, Okay, I know

497
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:24.640
some shit's going to go down.

498
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:28.480
Yeah, when when is it going to start happening, Which

499
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:36.480
it starts happening pretty pretty early on because after they

500
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:42.400
leave the first Haunt after kind of like antagonizing the

501
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:48.839
Haunt actors there, they start getting pursued and followed by

502
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:50.240
somebody in a pig mask.

503
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:51.240
Yeah.

504
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:56.559
Yeah, And it starts out just it starts out really

505
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.920
weird because they realized that the person that pursued them

506
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:04.160
they had seen them at a Haunt like three hundred

507
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:04.680
miles away.

508
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:06.119
Yeah, it was like two or three hundred miles away.

509
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:07.559
Because they say that, they're like it can't be the

510
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:09.960
same guy that was like we drove a day.

511
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:13.880
Yeah, like how would you get here? So it does

512
00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:18.559
start out pretty innocuous, and then it, of course, you know,

513
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.759
keeps getting darker and darker the more they pry into

514
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:24.160
what could be going on.

515
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:26.680
Well and Haunt actors, I mean, that's one of the

516
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:29.920
one of their superpowers in general is just kind of

517
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:34.000
like staring you down, making you nervous. You know, they

518
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:36.680
love it. They're not afraid, uh to do that. Sometimes

519
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:40.200
they'll like hold steady after you've like kind of laughed

520
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.000
and broke. They just won't let it go and to

521
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:45.880
keep you unnerved or keep you on edge. I could

522
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.400
see why it would be a lot of fun. Having

523
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.240
been a professional wrestling manager who was a bad guy.

524
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:54.839
There's something great about getting our eyes out of people.

525
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.319
But when you get to go after him one by one,

526
00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:01.200
it's a hell of a thing. Like the Haunt actors

527
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:03.240
that hang out by the bathrooms and stuff to like

528
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.000
and or mess with you in line and things like that.

529
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:09.519
Those guys, it's a it's a fun it's a fun experience.

530
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:15.440
But yeah, there are definitely like little red flags of

531
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:17.880
like this doesn't seem like a normal kind of Haunt

532
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.519
experience right now. Yeah, that keep getting dropped throughout it,

533
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.400
but keep that. But that Halloween vibe of like friends

534
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:29.000
and spooky good times still carries the film, and I

535
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.039
think that's one of the reasons people enjoy it so much. Absolutely,

536
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:35.160
And when we get back we'll talk about how not

537
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:38.279
fun it starts to become right after.

538
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:56.559
This, So our group of friends, friends friends, our group

539
00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.119
of friends find themselves at the next haunt and and

540
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:04.359
once again filming when they probably shouldn't be. But at

541
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:10.039
least they're not like antagonizing the Haunt actors anymore. But

542
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.720
that doesn't really seem to matter, because now they seem

543
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:17.680
to be like getting targeted by specific Haunt actors. Yeah,

544
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:23.960
but Bobby could care less because he starts talking with

545
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:28.519
some other guests at this particular haunt and they tell

546
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:33.400
him about the most extreme haunted house, which is called

547
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.920
like the Blue Skeleton, and it's not actually a haunted house,

548
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:39.119
it's more like a haunted experience, and like.

549
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:40.359
Yeah, yeah, the house moves.

550
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.440
Yeah, the house moves every year. And they tell him

551
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:50.240
that this year it's in Louisiana, and uh, that's when

552
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:52.960
he like obviously makes up his mind, like obviously we

553
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:57.000
have to go to Louisiana now, like screw everything else.

554
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:58.599
Yeah, but the hard part is they don't even know

555
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:02.240
where in Louisiana. Yeah, because it's all so secret. It's

556
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:04.640
also also I'm sure every time it says blue Skeleton,

557
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:05.880
I keep thinking of Red Skeleton.

558
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:07.400
Red Skelton.

559
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:09.039
Oh gosh, you don't even know who that is due

560
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:11.880
I do not Comedian from way back when. Oh okay,

561
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.200
it's okay, you don't know Red Skeleton. I do not

562
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:19.839
makes me feel old, even though you're a year younger

563
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:21.039
than me at best.

564
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:27.480
At best, bet is that because I'm only like nine

565
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:28.319
months younger than you.

566
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:31.519
Do So it's something like that. Yeah, so, but no.

567
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:34.279
So they're trying to figure out the Blue Skeleton thing

568
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:36.559
and they're getting drips and drabs, but they know that

569
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:42.400
they need to go to Louisiana, and I guess prad yeah,

570
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.599
you know, start asking people about it down there. Yeah,

571
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:47.920
because they keep hearing that it's the scariest whenever they

572
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.680
had some people saying like, I don't know, like they

573
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.039
might have they might have used real dead bodies there.

574
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.599
I've heard crazy things. It was the scariest thing I've

575
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:59.319
ever experienced in my life. And blah blah blah blah blah.

576
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:03.880
And I do want to mention that the scariest haunted

577
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:09.279
house ever is a thing from I feel like most childhoods.

578
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:11.240
Oh yeah, the.

579
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:16.599
Idea that there's some secret haunted house or some really

580
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:18.160
back then, it wasn't even secret. It was just it

581
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:21.440
was just always just far enough away that you couldn't

582
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.160
like go when you were a kid, you know, before

583
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:25.519
you had a car and stuff. So it would be

584
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.400
like for us in Dayton, it would be in Cleveland

585
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.839
usually or near Detroit. They would say like, oh, there's

586
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:35.200
a haunted house there, and like if you it's got

587
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:38.160
it's in an abandoned hospital and it's got ten floors

588
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.839
and nobody's ever made it to the tenth floor because

589
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:43.519
it's so scary, and if you do, they give you

590
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:47.599
a thousand dollars. No one's ever succeeded. And there have

591
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:51.200
been haunts that have done gags like that, like if

592
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:52.640
you make it all the way through, you win all

593
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.720
this money. I think they even talk to one in

594
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:56.720
this Yeah they say like nobody makes it through the

595
00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:59.279
end because there's like no way to Yeah, like it's

596
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.160
just a it's just a gag. But that was the

597
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:05.039
thing growing up, this idea that there were these haunts

598
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:09.480
so scary no one could ever finish them, which I

599
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:16.200
always found awesome because that's pure imagination fuel. Yeah, that

600
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.839
you're just thinking like whoa, like nothing can stop you know,

601
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.640
nobody could get through it. It'll stop everybody in their tracks.

602
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:24.440
It's so scary. But then you never hear what is

603
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:28.200
scary about it necessarily, so you go, oh, well, then

604
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:30.640
it must be fill in the blank of all the

605
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:33.279
things you find the scariest in the world. Yeah, which

606
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:37.799
is hilarious. And there are, you know, as times gone on,

607
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:41.640
there are extreme haunts, very extreme haunts out there. They

608
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:43.519
even talk a little bit. They talk about who goes

609
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.480
to this one where they like simulate a suicide and

610
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:49.079
stuff in front of everybody. I've never been to one

611
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.559
of those that's like that, like crazy, like gored out.

612
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.319
I've been to some odd ones, and I've been to

613
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:59.319
some nastier ones of course, Land of Illusion. I always

614
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.039
think of, oh, gosh, what was his name? The doctor?

615
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:05.039
I was going to ask you if you could remember

616
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.680
his name, because I love him. Doctor.

617
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:11.119
It's not like doctor Satan, but it's something like doctor Satan.

618
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.480
But he recognized me the first time I went through,

619
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:22.639
called me out as a as a filmmaker, and then

620
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:24.920
I really wish I could remember his name because it's

621
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:28.480
not doctor Satan. That's a character from Oh doctor Psycho

622
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.159
is his name? Because doctor Satan is from House of

623
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:36.119
a thousand corpses. He his big gag, I love the Carny.

624
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.519
I love I mean, I worked in professional wrestling. I've

625
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:42.000
traveled the country selling things. I love the Carnival. He

626
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.599
does a geek act at the end. So for those

627
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.159
who don't know, the difference be a freak and a

628
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:49.840
geek in the context of the Carnival is freaks are

629
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:53.239
born and geeks are made. So a freak would be

630
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.719
somebody who has like a deformity or a birth defect

631
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:58.440
that people would pay to see. And I know this

632
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:01.719
sounds barbaric. We're talking about a long time ago, But

633
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.559
a geek was somebody who learned to do something shocking

634
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:10.079
or disgusting for money, things like biting off chicken heads,

635
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:12.960
which is actually the original term for geek was people

636
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:14.000
who bite chicken.

637
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:15.639
Hands off the original Geek show.

638
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:18.760
Yeah, but then also, I mean like people covered in tattoos,

639
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:21.159
like completely covered in tattoos, like that look really kind

640
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:27.000
of scary. That's a geek act. Nailing boards to your nose, yeah,

641
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.239
that's a geek act. Hanging things from piercings or hanging

642
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:35.280
yourself from your piercings, that's geek act. And he would eat.

643
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:39.519
He eats live worms, which is a very old geek act.

644
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:43.039
And because he recognized me, he did it right next

645
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:47.000
to my head. And I am actually horrified of earthworms.

646
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:50.039
I don't like touching them. I ever since I was

647
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.760
a little kid going fishing. I could never handle being

648
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.840
close to the worms. And he slurped the worm right

649
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:58.119
and because that's and that's the thing is he sells it.

650
00:35:58.159 --> 00:35:59.280
You know, he puts the worm in his mouth that

651
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:01.400
you see it wriggle, and then he slaps it up

652
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.800
really fast like it's you know, linguini. He did it

653
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:06.360
right next to my face, and I remember you were

654
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:07.920
laughing until we got out of there, and I pulled

655
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.719
my glass off and showed you there was worm you

656
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:12.800
on my glasses, not on my face. It was just

657
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:14.719
a little like a little bit on my glasses. But

658
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:16.719
that was enough to make me go like, oh, I

659
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:20.199
felt really nauseous. But it was awesome. And you can't

660
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.159
do that to just anybody, because you know, you could

661
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:23.599
get in trouble. And that was the other thing is

662
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:25.760
he did that to me, really close to me, in

663
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:27.880
front of a bunch of teenage girls, and it made

664
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:29.440
them mortified because they thought he was going to do

665
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:33.639
it to them too, and he can't because that's a

666
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:36.039
whole other thing about touch passes and stuff. There are

667
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.199
haunts where you're where you could pay extra, which is hilarious.

668
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:42.559
Pay extra and the haunt actors are allowed to touch you.

669
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:44.960
Yes, well they've got that. They've got that. At Terror

670
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:45.639
Town they.

671
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.239
Do and well, I think they're trying to push the

672
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:50.440
idea that they do extreme horror stuff. I mean, when

673
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.159
we were there, it did. I the reason I didn't

674
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:54.800
want to touch passes. It looked like all they did

675
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:56.880
was like, throw fake blood on you a lot, and

676
00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:58.719
I was like, I don't want to stain my clothes.

677
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:01.639
Yeah, but we've got fake blood at home. We can.

678
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:04.280
But I'm sure that there's other stuff. And they built

679
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.800
it up a bit. But like, what was it the

680
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:11.760
Hotel of Terror. I can't think of the full name

681
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:13.760
of it. It's gonna drive me crazy. It's like Face

682
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:16.840
your Fears, the Hotel of Terror. That's one of the

683
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.599
scariest ones around here. It's a one attraction. We went

684
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:21.639
there on time. We went in the middle of the

685
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.159
night because they close it like two so often we'd

686
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.880
hit an attraction that had like five haunts and then

687
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:30.280
run there and catch that one right at the end

688
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:33.599
of the night. But they have touch passes and they're

689
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:36.360
basically a necklace, a glow necklace, so that they know

690
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.440
where you are and they can touch you and stuff.

691
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:41.079
But my favorite thing about that is not the fact

692
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:42.519
that they could touch you or whatever, because I haven't

693
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.719
done it. It's that they put glow passes all over

694
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:48.000
the floor and they put them on like the corpses

695
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:49.599
on the walls. They put them around their neck and

696
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:51.519
stuff to make it look at people are just throwing

697
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.639
them down and running away or whatever, and I really

698
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:57.039
doubt they are. Although when I went to Louisbourg Haunted Cave,

699
00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:59.880
which was amazing and I really would love to go again.

700
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:03.320
When I went to Louisbourg Haunted Cave, they were just

701
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:05.360
selling well, they weren't touch passes, they were just selling

702
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.480
glowy things. And I got one because I just, you

703
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:08.920
know me, I like when I'm having a fun time,

704
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:11.119
I spend money. I I you know, I got it.

705
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:14.079
And then about about I think it was like we

706
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.559
were like three minutes into the to the tour into

707
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:17.920
the caves, and I was like, oh my god, this

708
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:23.480
just makes every Gaunt actor able to see me. Ah,

709
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.679
so darn yeah. So I mean they get you, they

710
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:29.760
get you. And doctor Psycho if you're listening to this,

711
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.639
because he actually might be cool, dude, I can't wait

712
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:35.840
to see you again at landa The of Illusion. Although man,

713
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.400
last time we went and did all six in one night.

714
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:39.639
We were so tired.

715
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:43.079
But that was so much fun. You remember, see, I

716
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:49.519
loved the girl that was the access Exorcist girl and chasing.

717
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.960
Around Reagan in a like so like Reagan laying in

718
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:56.920
bed and the bed moves around to chase after people

719
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.559
like Reagan and the Exorcist when her head's up in

720
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:01.119
the bed. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.

721
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:06.400
So so at Land of Illusion, we just heard someone

722
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:09.000
screaming and then just this beep beep, and we look

723
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:14.119
and there's Reagan's bed just floating along chasing someone. I

724
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.800
was like, ah, that's great. Well she saw me yeah,

725
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.199
and made a beeline and like would not relent, And

726
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.760
I was like, I was having a great time running away.

727
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:28.079
Like oh no, I'm good. I'm a good partner for

728
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.800
you at haunts because number one, I get very scared,

729
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.360
but number two I feed you to them.

730
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:33.639
Oh yeah, like.

731
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:35.360
That one guy when I said like, I was like,

732
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.239
oh man, you're really afraid of chain saw us and

733
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.840
that guy just would not live out alone. Yeah. Yeah,

734
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:41.840
and you are afraid of change. I wasn't even like,

735
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:43.880
I wasn't even tall. I was just telling the truth

736
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:48.239
out loud to them. But I remember that one of

737
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:51.079
my favorite moments of that Exorcist girl chasing you was

738
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.199
that I was curious as she was zooming around and

739
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:57.679
that thing was curious how it worked. So I waited

740
00:39:57.719 --> 00:39:59.599
and kind of looked till I could see kind of

741
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:02.800
through it. And that was, honestly the most incredible thing

742
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:06.800
for me was realizing that bed frame with the little

743
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:10.679
wheels on it was built around her wheelchair. Yeah, she's

744
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:18.440
a paraplegic, and what an awesome way to let her

745
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.639
be a part of this, To let her be a

746
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:25.559
part of the haunting and the scaring and and in

747
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:27.519
a way that I mean, they couldn't afford to build

748
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:31.000
that thing. Yeah, as effective as it is there, they

749
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.159
couldn't have built it they had. The only reason that

750
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:35.079
it can be that way is because of her chair,

751
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:36.280
because those chairs are expensive.

752
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:37.039
Yeah.

753
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.800
That really moved me and touched me a lot to

754
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.159
see that that's so awesome that she gets to have

755
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.159
that experience every weekend and scare people and be the

756
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:48.599
Reagan in a bed floating around thing. I love that.

757
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:49.679
That was such a cool thing.

758
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:52.800
Yeah, no, I agree, but I'm not crying.

759
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:57.519
Crying. We're gonna take a quick break and when we

760
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.480
get back, things aren't going to be so sweet. Leave me.

761
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:17.760
You kind of answered this before the break, but I

762
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.760
wanted to ask you, since you have gone to maybe

763
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.519
not a ton more, but more haunts than me.

764
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:26.840
What is a ton more?

765
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:32.079
What's the most scary haunt you personally have visited and

766
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:33.679
what made it so scary to you?

767
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:39.800
The most scary? Yeah, it might be Louisbourg Haunted Cave

768
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:47.360
because there's a there's a part where you're running through

769
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:50.400
the cave and it's it's kind of what you'd expect.

770
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.199
I mean, the light gags and the weird and the

771
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:54.760
railing things and like the things you walk on it

772
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.480
and it dips suddenly and makes a loud sound. But

773
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.039
there's a part where, literally as you're going along, a

774
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:06.800
pickup truck drives through and there's a fifty caliber turret

775
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.480
gun on the back of it and a skeleton is

776
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:13.320
holding it and it fires real fifty I'm sure they're blanks,

777
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:16.920
but it fires rounds and it's so loud that you

778
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:24.199
can't you can't help but feel like a mammalion lizard

779
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:28.480
brain sphere, like you can't help it. It's scared me

780
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:31.079
so bad you could not I mean your ears ring.

781
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.639
I mean it's so loud. So that one's up there

782
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:39.039
for me, because and that was after like twenty because

783
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:40.679
that's I think it takes you forty five minutes to

784
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:44.079
get through the whole cave. It's only one attraction, so

785
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:48.559
it's all through it. So that might be. But then again,

786
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:51.599
I mean that's almost kind of cheap, that kind of scare.

787
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:59.880
I hate claustrophobic stuff definitely gets to me a little bit.

788
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:05.519
Pure darkness definitely gets to me. And I love the

789
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:07.599
use of that because that's brilliant. I mean, you barely

790
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:10.840
need anything to scare people, just their own lack of sense.

791
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:12.920
I remember when they did the blackout when we were

792
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:16.000
at Land of Illusion last year, they had you walk

793
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.280
into this room. It was brilliant. You the little gazebo

794
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.920
before you go in the maze is just a white

795
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:26.320
room and the lights are all super bright, and then

796
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.599
he just talks. He talks nonsense. He basically like, don't

797
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:31.360
touch anybody, They won't touch you. Da da da da

798
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:32.960
da da da da da. Watch where you're going da

799
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.360
da da da da da. And he really I saw

800
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:36.599
him look at his watch at one point, I think

801
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:38.960
he was literally counting. He was like making sure he

802
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:41.519
had us for thirty seconds or eyes it adjusted to

803
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:43.719
how bright it was, because then they kill the lights

804
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.480
and put you in a room where everything's painted black

805
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:48.360
and there's no lights. Yeah, and it was I mean

806
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:51.400
insanely dark. I mean you're like peeling your eyes open

807
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.280
as wide as you can and seeing nothing. Yeah. That

808
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:58.760
stuff's really fun and scary too, So I guess like

809
00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:02.519
it's hard because like, on one hand, one was you know,

810
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.519
some of its imagination, but then like the fifty BMG

811
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:10.960
gun going off, that's just legitimate fear. There was also

812
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:12.679
the first time I went through one of the Land

813
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.400
of Illusion things, they had a thing that made it

814
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:17.239
look like a semi truck was going to hit you,

815
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:19.639
and it was really sudden you saw it.

816
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:21.800
Yeah, yeah, I said that that.

817
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.320
Happened when I didn't know it was coming. That really

818
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:27.400
scared me. Like that shook me up a little bit,

819
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:31.920
Yeah for a while. Yeah, So, I mean there there

820
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.639
are a lot of things because like the gore and stuff.

821
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.000
You know, it's just too hard, it's too easy to

822
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:39.639
feel like it's to know it's fake. Yeah, and the

823
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:41.840
jump scares are great. I mean I love a good

824
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:44.000
jump scare, but like if it was just off of

825
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:47.519
a single scare or off of like the concept all

826
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:53.280
around us, it's probably like Louisbourg or that blackout experience

827
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:59.599
were pretty pretty solid. I know that. Although see, this

828
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.719
is a tough one because every time face your fears

829
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:04.719
Hotel of Terror, every time I think about it, though,

830
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:08.000
I think that's the scariest haunt around here. Though I don't.

831
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:09.960
But I don't know if it's because like it one

832
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.519
thing scares where if it's just because every section of

833
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:15.880
that hotel is really scary, like is generally more intense

834
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:18.239
than everywhere else, because that's an intense one like that,

835
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:21.599
Really they warn you, the haunt actors swear and stuff

836
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.480
that tells you you're in a real a real you

837
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:28.519
know place that's like geared not towards children. Yeah, so

838
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.119
I don't know, that's a tough one. I wish I had,

839
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:33.559
Like I wish I could just go, oh man this

840
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:35.679
one time. But I've been to a few. And I

841
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.880
went to a haunt, an incredible haunt. It was called

842
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:42.760
something man Or like Grimly Manor or something up by

843
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.920
columb or Cleveland. I was at Cinema Wasteland when you're

844
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:48.840
in October, and so I had worked on a movie earlier.

845
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:52.000
I was probably nineteen or not known as seventeen, and

846
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.079
I'd worked on a movie and all the effects artists

847
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:56.559
were from that haunt, so they gave us passes. So

848
00:45:56.599 --> 00:46:00.480
we all went, and I was scared. The guest haunt

849
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.639
i'd been to before that was the Psycho Path at

850
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:06.639
Yellowjacket where Yellowjacket is right out by spring I think

851
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:10.480
it's out by a springfield or something, but it's like

852
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:14.280
a Native American camp area. And they used to do

853
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.280
a thing my buddy Tommy Gunn used to run called

854
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:20.280
the Psycho Path and it was a haunted path and

855
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:24.000
that was scary, Like when I was fourteen fifteen years old,

856
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:25.320
that scared the heck out of me. But then it's

857
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:27.599
like I didn't do another haunt because they were too expensive.

858
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.400
Growing up, I didn't do another Haunt until I went

859
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:32.599
to that one in Cleveland, and that one was massive

860
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:37.400
and tons of actors and lots of like weird story

861
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:41.519
driven things like this. One lady started following the girl

862
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:43.840
ahead of me around, asking her to give her a

863
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:46.840
stone from outside, and like making it sound like it

864
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.039
was super super important, like give me a stone, give

865
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.400
me a stone from outside, which I found really eerie.

866
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:54.760
I was also stuck between two women that were probably

867
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:57.199
in their twenties that I knew from that movie. So

868
00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:59.920
I ended up being like the person that they were.

869
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:03.199
Like each took my hands and they were screaming in

870
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:06.000
my face the whole time, which was very amusing. Oh

871
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:09.760
I'm sure so that one was pretty scary too, But yeah,

872
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:12.039
I don't know. Every now and then a Haunt actor

873
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.679
like look at you and like really pull off the

874
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:18.000
like dead eye and and really get you. Yeah, And

875
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:20.360
I'm I'm just a sucker for jump scares. Jump scares

876
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.920
get me. I can't. I can't help it, you know,

877
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:27.039
something suddenly comes at me. Because don't forget I filmed

878
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:29.639
it was It wasn't my movie. I was working on

879
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:34.559
a friend's movie, Steve Radzinski's caris Hell four out now.

880
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.440
I believe I was working on that and that shot

881
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:40.639
at a haunted schoolhouse. That's a it's a haunt.

882
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:41.000
Oh yeah.

883
00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:44.119
They literally just let us film there, and they told

884
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:46.639
us like specifically where you can't get blood and where

885
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.639
they don't care, like blood is just a bonus. And

886
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:51.880
we were allowed to film in all of their set pieces.

887
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.079
They hadn't This was a couple months back. They hadn't

888
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.199
even started doing the major upgrades yet, so no one

889
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:58.559
was there. Oh nice, It was just us, And it

890
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:03.159
was kind of weird because you had thembo of the

891
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:07.400
liminal nightmare of being in an empty school combined with

892
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.880
being in literal like having to walk through haunted houses

893
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:12.840
and everything would take forever because it's a literally it's

894
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.199
not amazed, but it literally you know, makes you walk

895
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.719
the longest amount in each room by having the walls

896
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:19.880
the way they are. But at one point when we

897
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.159
were filling there, I never got like super creeped out.

898
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:24.360
I did notice that it kind of smelled, and then

899
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:28.400
Steve's wife, who was a Haunt actor for years, was like, oh,

900
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:30.199
let me find it, and she found they had like

901
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.719
literally it was like a glade that's cat pie and

902
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:36.679
I don't know if that's for something else or if

903
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.559
they make that just for haunts, but it makes it

904
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:45.280
smell dirty. Well yeah, so, but at one point we

905
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.039
were trying to figure out how to run an extension

906
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.360
cord somewhere because there are like windows and doors in

907
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:53.000
secret passages that you can find, like usually a curtain

908
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:56.320
is where you know, the Haunt actors would pass through.

909
00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:58.840
And at one point I was looking at this little

910
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:00.920
door and I was trying to figure out how to

911
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:02.159
open it because I was like, oh, I could run

912
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.960
the cable through here maybe, And there was a little

913
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:07.480
latch on it. So I pulled the latch and it

914
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:09.320
just slid and dropped down really fast and made a

915
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:11.800
loud sound, and I realized, oh, that's the Haunt actors

916
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:16.440
flipped that and through gravity and the two by fours

917
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:18.960
just hit the concrete and it makes it insanely loud sound.

918
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:21.440
But everybody else was They weren't filming, but they were

919
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:24.440
like walking around quietly trying to find where to put lights.

920
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:27.199
It's all like damn, like this loud, incredibly loud boom,

921
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:29.599
and I was like, sorry, I guess that's what that does.

922
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:33.480
It's pretty funny. So but things aren't going to be

923
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:38.400
funny when we come back, because while we're enjoying reminiscing

924
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:43.400
about haunts and such, our intrepid crew not so much

925
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:46.360
as they get closer and closer to the Blue Skeleton

926
00:49:47.159 --> 00:50:01.320
right after this, So.

927
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:06.079
After a day of having or an evening of having

928
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:11.320
fun at the haunts and talking to other hauntgoers and

929
00:50:11.400 --> 00:50:15.519
finding out more information about the Blue Skeleton and kind

930
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:21.119
of getting excited about the new direction that their filming

931
00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:25.360
could take, our group of friends goes back to their

932
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:32.159
camper to sleep, and then someone starts filming them while

933
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:33.039
they're all asleep.

934
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:36.760
Very creepy, and I love that that they're all asleep

935
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:38.920
and all of a sudden, the camera they've been using

936
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:41.679
is just up and films everybody laying sleeping, including the

937
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:45.000
person who usually holds the camera. It's a solid, a

938
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:48.000
solid little move to kind of build suspense. And I

939
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:49.239
found it very unknown.

940
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.280
It was. It was very un gave me chills when

941
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:56.480
I was watching it. And I can't remember it because

942
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:59.519
it's not Bobby who found it. I think it's or no,

943
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:03.440
Bobby does find it. Yeah, when he's on like forums

944
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:07.760
about haunted houses trying to find information about the Blue Skeleton.

945
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:13.079
He finds this video and hides it from everyone because

946
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:17.760
he knows that if they knew that they are actually

947
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:21.679
being like this proves that they're being pursued. He knew

948
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:23.920
that they would all want to call it quits. But

949
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:28.199
that's not the only thing. Because while that person was

950
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:32.599
in there filming them, they put like a cow heart

951
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:38.559
and organs inside the refrigerator. So even though like Brandy

952
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.760
and Zach and Jeff and everybody, they don't know about

953
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.280
the footage, they still know like something's going on.

954
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:50.119
Well, Zach is the one who tells Bobby to keep

955
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:50.679
it a secret.

956
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:54.159
That's right, Yeah, yeah, because because he even says, like,

957
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:56.159
I know Brandy, she wouldn't want to keep doing this

958
00:51:56.360 --> 00:52:04.440
if she knew what's happening. So now everybody's like the

959
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:09.480
infighting is getting a little more intense because Bobby really

960
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:14.320
really really wants to find the Blue Skeleton, and Brandy's

961
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:20.199
kind of like, we have a perfectly good documentary right here.

962
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:24.559
We don't have to go chasing, you know, like this

963
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.800
isn't even what like before our documentary was just supposed

964
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.159
to be like all the different haunts in America, And

965
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.519
now you're trying to find the most extreme haunt, like

966
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:37.440
why are we doing this? And so Like, I think

967
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:42.480
that's what's interesting watching the thesis movie, the twenty ten,

968
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:47.760
twenty eleven film, and then watching this one is in

969
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:54.159
the original film it was very much less like it

970
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:59.159
felt much less like Bobby was pushing everyone as hard.

971
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.920
It was just more like, oh, we just kind of

972
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:07.519
fell into discovering this, whereas with this one, it feels

973
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:14.480
much more like Bobby refuses to drop something that anyone

974
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:16.880
in their right mind would have understood, like this is

975
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.239
really dangerous. You shouldn't keep pursuing this. I think it's

976
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:23.119
kind of interesting those two differences. What do you think

977
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:23.599
about that?

978
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:26.280
I mean, I would agree, But the big to me,

979
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:31.239
the big element is like the combination of or none

980
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:33.559
of the combination is the addition of the fact that

981
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:37.159
they want to do a make a really good film,

982
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:39.599
they want to make a memorable film, they want to

983
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:45.239
make money, they want to be creative, and about two

984
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:48.760
thirds of the crew is fine with good enough. Yeah,

985
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.519
And I think that that's what makes it compelling, is

986
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:54.599
that all he wants to do is find something nobody

987
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:56.840
else has found, because everybody and their brother can run

988
00:53:56.840 --> 00:53:59.840
around with a camcorder and just film the haunt actors

989
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:03.000
between scares, or film people waiting in line to see

990
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:07.360
something scary. Anybody can do that, but if they could

991
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:11.039
find something like that, that's what's up. And at one

992
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:14.079
point I think it was Bobby. I'm having trouble remembering

993
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:15.960
which one's Bobby and which one's Zach in my memory,

994
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:20.880
but he even says like, I want this to be scary,

995
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.599
like when we were kids, like it was like really

996
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:26.360
scary and we like wondered if there was this. So

997
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:29.199
there's that element too of like kind of chasing nostalgia,

998
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:34.840
chasing your childhood, chasing like things that may have never existed. Yeah,

999
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:37.039
you know, which is in my opinion, a huge part

1000
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.159
of nostalgia as chasing things that don't exist or never did.

1001
00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:44.880
There's a song by Jello Biafra called Nostalgia for an

1002
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:48.199
Age that Never existed, and I love that song because

1003
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:51.800
it's basically just about the perfect fifties that everybody would

1004
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:54.920
imagine about in the eighties and nineties that literally didn't exist.

1005
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:58.360
Yeah it was a TV show, not a documentary. Leave

1006
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:01.519
It to Beaver, you know. Yeah, So that's an element

1007
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:04.000
that I think really grabs me is the idea that

1008
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:07.519
they're trying to do something better than okay, and they're

1009
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:10.719
trying to capture like a spirit and a feeling to

1010
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:13.559
do that, which is something that takes them back to

1011
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:16.960
being kids. Yeah, so that's kind of my take.

1012
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:21.719
I like that take. I like that take a lot good.

1013
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:27.920
Oh no. So it does start getting even more intense

1014
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:32.760
in the movie though, because they have found Bobby, or

1015
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:37.280
Bobby found through you know, scouring these forums and these websites,

1016
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:42.599
that they can get information from somebody at a bar

1017
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:47.440
about where the Blue Skeleton is going to finally be this.

1018
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:50.119
Yeah, they're told that that's part of the process, is

1019
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.239
like go to this bar. Yeah, so down in I

1020
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:58.000
believe it's in Louisiana. So they end up driving all

1021
00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:01.199
the way there through the night, and I think they

1022
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:04.960
even keep it a secret from half the group like

1023
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.880
that when they wake up there just in Louisiana. Yeah,

1024
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.119
but when they go to this bar, things get pretty

1025
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:14.880
creepy pretty quickly, as there are guys who appear to

1026
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:18.639
be Haunt actors that are drinking there that start pushing

1027
00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:23.440
them around and why you can't be recording here and yeah,

1028
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:26.079
or why are you recording? Yeah, and all this, but

1029
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:29.599
then when they go to hopefully talk to somebody, they

1030
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:33.440
ends up leaving Brandy alone with these guys, and it's

1031
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:37.119
it's one of the more tense parts of the film

1032
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:39.480
because they just start bullying her because she's in the

1033
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:41.320
bathroom and they get the camera and they go and

1034
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:43.760
like wait for her, and when she comes out, she's

1035
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:47.199
just like, what are you doing? And that's our camera,

1036
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:49.960
Like stop it, Like this isn't funny, and they're just

1037
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:53.840
having a good old time scaring her. And that's another

1038
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:56.679
element of the film that I feel like, I think

1039
00:56:56.800 --> 00:57:00.440
is sometimes lost on people because it's not for the

1040
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:02.840
kind of people who love horror movies. It's not really

1041
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:08.199
a very appropriate thought to have. And that's why I'm

1042
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:10.679
not going to say it until after this break, but

1043
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:26.599
I'll have my hot take right after this. Okay, all

1044
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:31.480
teasing aside. My hot take is, and again, like this

1045
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:34.280
wouldn't be popular with a lot of the horror loving world,

1046
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:38.320
but it's the idea like who are these people and

1047
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:41.519
what kind of people are attracted to this kind of work?

1048
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:45.039
Because they talk to a couple of Haunt actors who

1049
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:48.360
kind of suggest that this is their opportunity to kind

1050
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:52.760
of rip loose and kind of let themselves be a psycho,

1051
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:58.400
take their frustrations of life out on unwitting strangers. There's

1052
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:02.880
nothing wrong with that. It's consensual. The people that you're

1053
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:05.000
doing that too are probably you know, they're having a

1054
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.599
good time with it too, like it's a win win win.

1055
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:10.239
But it does make you kind of if you really

1056
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:12.719
think about it, it makes you kind of nervous. Yeah,

1057
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:16.960
like why would they want to do this? Why would

1058
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:18.760
they want to go so psycho? And they even talk

1059
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:20.159
to some people who say like, oh, I have to

1060
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:22.360
hold back a lot, and da da da dah. It's

1061
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:26.360
like that's weird too. So again, because horror fans are

1062
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:31.119
generally pretty docile kind people. I've found that my entire life.

1063
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:35.360
They're friendly and helpful. The idea that there could be

1064
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:39.960
a contingency of them who are just psychopaths and that's

1065
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:41.760
why they're attracted to this work because they want to

1066
00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:46.199
hurt people. It's not a very flattering way to look

1067
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:49.079
at haunts and haunt actors and stuff, but it isn't

1068
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:53.000
unreasonable to wonder. And I have a friend who she's

1069
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:55.000
told me she won't go to haunts because she's afraid

1070
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:57.800
that they're really Psycho's there. Of course I told her,

1071
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:01.480
I was like, that is super silly, Like, why, like,

1072
00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:04.960
you're gonna be the one person ever that actually gets

1073
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.400
murdered by a haunt actor in the entire world. It'll

1074
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:11.719
be you. You'll be the first. It's a little silly. Yeah, yeah,

1075
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:14.719
it's a little silly. I mean, don't get me wrong, Like, you, dude,

1076
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:16.840
go to the carnival. I mean a lot of those

1077
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:19.559
people are ex cons and drugs and stuff like that,

1078
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:21.320
and it can make you nervous, so like you don't

1079
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:23.320
know who's there. But that's kind of the point, is

1080
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:25.519
you are going there for a vacation and fear.

1081
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:28.440
Yeah. Yeah, so I don't know.

1082
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:30.719
But that's kind of my takeaway though, is that one

1083
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:33.000
of the elements of this is just the idea who

1084
00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:36.599
are these people? To quote Jerry Seinfeld, but you know,

1085
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:38.440
who are these people? And why are they like this?

1086
00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:41.440
Why would they want this to be their lives? And

1087
00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:43.559
we're getting a big fat taste of this in this

1088
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:46.880
sequence where they're harassing Brandy and they've got her camera

1089
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:50.199
and the tables have turned. They're getting to ask her

1090
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:53.440
questions and YadA, YadA, YadA, and of course you know

1091
00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:55.599
before you know at the group of guys she's with

1092
00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:59.239
all come back and it's very clear that I can

1093
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:02.400
never remember the he set brother character's name, but he's

1094
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:04.719
I actually like the way that depict his character because

1095
01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:07.880
he's funny, but he's also a bit of a womanizer,

1096
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:10.679
but he's also tough. Yeah. Yeah. There's a part where

1097
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:12.239
when one guy's wanting to throw it at he's like, dude,

1098
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:15.239
you really, like, do you really want to throw down?

1099
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:19.519
Because I freaking will like and everybody's like, don't because

1100
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:21.280
I get that sense. I'm like, I have a feeling

1101
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:25.920
this dude has pummeled people when he's mad. So they

1102
01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:27.920
kind of break that up. They get their camera back,

1103
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:29.440
and it's kind of the way you'd expect, though it's like,

1104
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:31.960
just give me my camera back. It's expensive and like,

1105
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:36.840
this is ridiculous. So it's a great scene. It seemed

1106
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:38.719
to lead up to where we're almost to our our

1107
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:42.039
big you know, the thrilling part of the third act.

1108
01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:45.559
Yeah, no, it's I I think it's great. And what

1109
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:51.480
I liked about the scene was it played into the

1110
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:55.559
thesis of the film or one of the thesises of

1111
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:59.760
the film that you just mentioned, which is these haunt

1112
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:06.719
acts could be anyone. They really could be anyone, And

1113
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:09.320
they say it several times in this movie. They say

1114
01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:13.480
it several times in the twenty ten one. But this

1115
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:19.679
kind of also reminds you that, like the haunts, they're

1116
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:23.559
scary because it's fun because we want it to be.

1117
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:27.599
But there is that world outside of the haunts that

1118
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:31.519
we're trying to escape from that's way scarier. Yeah, and

1119
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:35.320
this was that dose of reality of like, yeah, haunts

1120
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:37.679
are scary, but reality is scarier.

1121
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:41.000
For sure, for sure. And that's kind of the thing.

1122
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:43.519
I need to show you that Haunt documentary on Hulu

1123
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:46.280
where they talk to like the guy with PTSD who

1124
01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:49.760
goes to these extreme haunts for Catharsis. It's really fascinating.

1125
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:51.559
That does sound fascinating.

1126
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:54.039
Because the human fear reaction, and I mean just Catharsis

1127
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:58.719
in general, is very odd. How it works, how experiencing

1128
01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:01.079
things similar to what hurt you can help you heal.

1129
01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:05.599
It's a very interesting part of the human psyche. But

1130
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:08.039
I also want to mention after they get out of

1131
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:12.760
that bar, they one of the best elements of this

1132
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:16.079
film is the RV because it gives you all these

1133
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:18.679
cool extra gags. I mean, they live in the car.

1134
01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:21.800
It has all these lights and cameras built into the

1135
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:24.039
RV because you have to be able to see around you.

1136
01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:27.960
It's a very big recreational vehicle. And I love the

1137
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.880
sequence where after they have left the bar and everything,

1138
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:32.800
they go back to the RV and they find themselves

1139
01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:37.159
surrounded by dozens of Haunt actors, yeah, all around them.

1140
01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:39.719
But then the lights cut out and when the lights

1141
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:42.800
come back on, they're all gone. And that's another great

1142
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:47.119
moment too, super scary. And I want to mention there

1143
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:50.400
was a Haunts actor seen earlier that also got me

1144
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:52.239
really well. They were having it. They were just camping,

1145
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.000
not far from one of the big haunts, and this

1146
01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:57.719
guy who just looks completely insane comes out through the

1147
01:02:57.760 --> 01:03:00.639
woods and just he's like spoken a say or something,

1148
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:02.320
and they start talking to him and he sits by

1149
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:04.840
the fire and they and at one point he's clearly

1150
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:06.599
he is a Haunt actor and it's not. The twist

1151
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:08.239
is not there's no twist. He is a Haunt actor.

1152
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:10.840
But I love how when they say, like, oh, are

1153
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:14.440
you from the from the uh, the Haunt or whatever

1154
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:17.039
over there. He's like, oh yeah, yeah, he's messing with

1155
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:19.480
them by acting like because he's so clearly a han actor,

1156
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:20.960
he has a makeup on his stuff. So he goes,

1157
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:23.960
oh yeah, yeah that one. Like that's that's how Haunt

1158
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:27.039
actors will be though. They'll be like, oh yeah, yeah,

1159
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:29.639
this is for the Haunt. I'm just I'm not just

1160
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:32.880
a crazy person anything to get your goat. Yeah, no,

1161
01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:35.400
it's just it's stuff like that. Super fun. But after

1162
01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:40.079
they all disappear, you know, it's a very scary scene.

1163
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:42.360
The next morning they get instructions on how to meet

1164
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:46.559
with their connection at the Blue Skeleton, which is the

1165
01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:49.920
rendezvous is at a big Halloween festival, like this massive

1166
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:50.920
Halloween fest.

1167
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:54.119
Yeah, I got the feeling that it was somewhere in

1168
01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:54.880
New Orleans.

1169
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:56.920
Oh no, what gave you that feeling? Was that the

1170
01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:00.280
fact that it was basically Marty Gras Yes, okay, know it,

1171
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:02.679
which is like the only thing I know definitelynewhere. That's

1172
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:03.960
all you need to know about New Orleans.

1173
01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:08.880
That in like Beignets, which is a part of Marti Grattu.

1174
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:12.239
Yeah, man, don't talk about Bignets. Man, I'm so hungry.

1175
01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:18.840
But yeah, So they go there to rendezvous with their

1176
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:26.960
Blue Skeleton person and almost immediately Jeff finds himself lured

1177
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:32.199
to an alley and cornered by a clown, including the

1178
01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:34.199
weird one of the weird actors who seem to be

1179
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:38.480
following them around. And it's starting to get really creepy,

1180
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:41.440
and it looks like in order to sign up for

1181
01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:47.079
the Blue Skeleton things, they get real kidnappy, real fast.

1182
01:04:47.920 --> 01:05:02.840
And we'll talk all about it after this, before we

1183
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:09.119
get to the ultimate extreme haunt experience of our main characters.

1184
01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:12.360
And I do mean ultimate, Oh my, yes, I do

1185
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:14.840
want to mention because I didn't mention it earlier, that

1186
01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:20.320
whole concept of the haunts so scary, nobody can finish it,

1187
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:24.800
and blah blah blah and all that. It got a

1188
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:29.760
bit of a revival about ten years ago when mccameye

1189
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.719
Manner became a big to do because there was like

1190
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:36.079
a documentary about it and people were making YouTube videos

1191
01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:38.480
about it. Do you know much about MCKAMEI Manner.

1192
01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:43.360
We've watched some videos about it. I've read a little

1193
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:47.280
bit about it. Most of what I know is that

1194
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:55.239
as Air quotes extreme as mccameye manner is a lot

1195
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:57.119
of it's probably like bullshit too.

1196
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:01.239
Most of it is bullshit. Most of it is total

1197
01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:03.840
course crap. So the claim is that mcamee manner is

1198
01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:07.880
the most extreme terrifying haunt ever, so much so that

1199
01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:12.000
it subjects you to torture. It's not just like a haunt,

1200
01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:15.480
it's a it's a grueling, awful experience.

1201
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:18.119
It's like a twenty four hour thing too, right, like

1202
01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:19.960
they're supposed to keep you for a full maybe.

1203
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:21.719
Or something they could be. I mean they change it too.

1204
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:24.760
That's the only thing is that it shifts. But Russ mccameey,

1205
01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:28.519
who runs it, he's just this weird old guy and

1206
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:31.440
he seems to have a bit of a bit of

1207
01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:35.880
a sadism twist to him. But the whole thing is

1208
01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:39.000
you win money if you can complete the haunt, and

1209
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:42.159
no one ever has. But the more I looked into it,

1210
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:44.199
and the more I saw how I watched other people

1211
01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:45.920
look into it, the more it became clear there is

1212
01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:48.960
no haunted house. Yeah yeah, I mean it doesn't exist

1213
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:51.840
because they make you go through all of these like

1214
01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:56.400
horrific torments to get to the haunted house, and nobody

1215
01:06:56.440 --> 01:06:59.960
ever completes it because they're literally like dunking you in water.

1216
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:04.119
In the one of the documentaries, I mean he hired

1217
01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:07.199
ex convicts and stuff. He you know, people who you

1218
01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:10.519
know would be a little bit scary, but like it's

1219
01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:13.320
funny too, because there's so much weirdness to the mccameye

1220
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:17.079
Manor thing, Like it's so dark and evil. But do

1221
01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:19.719
you know what it costs to go to mcami Manor. No,

1222
01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:22.320
you have to donate one bag of dog food to

1223
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:27.519
the local shelter. Yeah, yeah, so you know guy likes dogs.

1224
01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:32.920
But yeah, so apparently there isn't really a haunt. For

1225
01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:36.320
a while, he had like this little building, but supposedly

1226
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:38.719
that wasn't the house. That was the build up, and

1227
01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:40.559
then you would be taken to the house if you

1228
01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:43.159
could get through it, and nobody ever does because it's

1229
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:45.840
literal pain and torture and they'll tap you. That's the

1230
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:48.800
other claim is that they'll say, I'm sorry, we can't

1231
01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:50.519
keep you in here because like you're not doing well

1232
01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:53.039
enough physically, and you could be sitting there like I'm

1233
01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:55.320
I'm ready, like let's go. Because they had a few people.

1234
01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:56.800
They had one guy going there who was like a

1235
01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:58.880
I think he was like a military guy or something

1236
01:07:58.880 --> 01:07:59.960
and he just sat through it.

1237
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:04.280
Yeah, and they were like, no, actually you're not okay, okay.

1238
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:06.880
Yeah. So it's literally, I mean, there was literally never

1239
01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:09.199
a haunted house. He moved it from California to like

1240
01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:12.599
North Carolina or something, and there was never a haunted house.

1241
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:18.039
It was all sensation. He was harming people to some extent,

1242
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:19.399
and there was a lot of claims about the way

1243
01:08:19.399 --> 01:08:22.079
he treated women he dated, and a lot of other

1244
01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:24.760
weird stuff, but overall, the big thing is that that

1245
01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:29.800
haunt simply did not exist. Yeah, And I was not

1246
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:33.520
surprised to find that out because again I am a

1247
01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:37.720
fan of the Carnie and Bally, who is the term

1248
01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:42.079
for talking something up to get people to spend their money,

1249
01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:45.039
but in this case, the money was clout. He wanted

1250
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:48.279
internet fame, and there were a lot of reports that

1251
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:50.600
use that fame to like meet women and stuff like that,

1252
01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:54.079
which fame is very good for. So I don't know,

1253
01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:57.800
but like that's like the big one. Now. The thing

1254
01:08:57.800 --> 01:09:00.760
that I've been fascinated by lately has been this idea

1255
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.960
of like haunted camp outs and stuff where.

1256
01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:06.000
I've seen like ads and stuff.

1257
01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:09.680
Yeah, got they got a deal too, Yeah, where you

1258
01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:13.279
like camp overnight and they terrorize you with different things.

1259
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:15.760
Part of me thinks that sounds awesome. The other part

1260
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:17.800
of me thinks that sounds awesome for others.

1261
01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:19.840
Only, So it sounds so awesome.

1262
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:22.159
Yeah, I remember how you reacted when you heard that

1263
01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:25.359
raccoon getting all wild fighting the other raccoon. So I

1264
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:27.159
don't know. I don't know if you actually handle it

1265
01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:27.520
that well.

1266
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:31.399
I've survived mostly that's.

1267
01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:36.039
I mean, as the bare minimum, but so, but I

1268
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:39.279
don't know. I've heard that those experiences are really intense

1269
01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:43.640
and scary. Yeah, so I don't know. My question to you,

1270
01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:47.800
Rach would be this year, as Haunts season approaches, would

1271
01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:49.319
you be willing to go to one of the more

1272
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:51.720
extreme haunts and get a touch pass? Would you be

1273
01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:55.039
willing to go all in or would you rather not?

1274
01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:58.840
I've I see, I've really I've been thinking about it

1275
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:03.399
a long time, and by a long time, I mean

1276
01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:06.119
the whole five years that I've been going to haunts,

1277
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:08.880
and I think this might have to be the year

1278
01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:14.039
because I was like, I I think it'd be fun

1279
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:20.680
to be that scared, and I'm I'm decently easy to scare,

1280
01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:28.239
especially with chain sauce. Oh yeah, and I like, like,

1281
01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:30.800
I like having fun. So that's like, that's one of

1282
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:34.079
the things you taught me about haunts, like straight out

1283
01:10:34.119 --> 01:10:35.760
of the Gate, is you're only going to have as

1284
01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:38.479
much fun as you let yourself have. Yeah, and so like,

1285
01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:41.560
the more you suspend your disbelief and play like you're scared,

1286
01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:43.079
the more scared you're going to be, and the more

1287
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:45.399
fun you're gonna have. And like it, you know, I

1288
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:47.159
don't know, I think I think it could be fun

1289
01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:48.039
to be that scared.

1290
01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:51.319
Gonna start looking because we haven't done Dayton's Screen Park.

1291
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:53.119
I've always wanted to do that one, but they don't

1292
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:56.199
have online ticketing and I'm I'm I'm a man of

1293
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:58.319
a certain age. Now I want to pay extra to

1294
01:10:58.319 --> 01:10:59.359
not wait in line and stuff.

1295
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:03.359
I'm the worst I've passed the Dayton screen So.

1296
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:08.640
It's off seventy. I think roote four. No, you're right, yeah?

1297
01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:11.119
Was it four or yeah? Four or thirty five? It

1298
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:12.199
is one of those. I think it's four.

1299
01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:17.399
It's it's four right next to the connection for thirty five.

1300
01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:18.960
Nobody knows what we're talking.

1301
01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:21.079
About, so I know, and that's what matters.

1302
01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:23.680
But I mean, I've heard Dayton screen parks parks pretty good.

1303
01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:26.479
I missed. I think they don't do slash Moraine anymore,

1304
01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:27.319
which they used to do with.

1305
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:30.800
The Splash Yeah. I don't think Splash Marine like technically

1306
01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:31.439
exists any.

1307
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:35.119
In decade in the decade so they were just doing

1308
01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:38.000
it at the old water park Slash Marine, which was

1309
01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:46.279
just a wonderful name. So yeah, but anyway, Uh, so, well,

1310
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:49.159
we'll see. Maybe we can find you one nearby that

1311
01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:52.319
is intense. I mean, at the very least, we could

1312
01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:53.720
take you to face your fears and get you the

1313
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:56.199
touch pass. Yeah, maybe we'll head out to terror Town.

1314
01:11:56.279 --> 01:11:57.840
It's been a few years. I'd like to see how

1315
01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:00.600
it's grown. It's a bit of a dry but it'd

1316
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:03.560
be worth it, it would be So well, we'll see

1317
01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:06.199
how that, how that goes, and we'll report back.

1318
01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:08.000
I was gonna say we will be reporting.

1319
01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:10.600
Oh yeah, we'll report back. I'll bring an audio recorder

1320
01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:14.039
so you can some people can hear you scream and

1321
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:18.039
cry or whatever. Why not, right, Yeah, good time. Halloween

1322
01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:20.680
is coming right up and it's the best. So we're

1323
01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:22.039
going to take a quick break and then we'll get

1324
01:12:22.079 --> 01:12:25.920
to the thrilling conclusion of the houses October built right

1325
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:26.319
after this.

1326
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:44.600
So our now group of friends is only four. They

1327
01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:52.000
can't find they can't find Was it Jeff who got kidnapped? Yeah,

1328
01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:55.840
they can't find Jeff at all, which of course is

1329
01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:58.159
super easy to do in New Orleans. I don't know

1330
01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:01.439
why they would have so much of a trouble finding

1331
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:04.479
him in such a big Halloween party. But no, they

1332
01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:08.159
can't find him. They try calling him, but they like

1333
01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:10.800
they can't get through him through to him, and then

1334
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:15.079
they get a voicemail just giving them a location to meet, right,

1335
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:22.079
So they pile into the RV and they just park

1336
01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:25.560
and it's like this is where it kind of lines

1337
01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:28.159
up with the ending of the twenty ten version a

1338
01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:30.840
little bit, but it, you know, kind of digresses, is

1339
01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:35.880
they they pull up to like a big parking area

1340
01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:41.319
behind like a warehouse, and then a school bus just

1341
01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:45.399
slowly comes up and parks right in front of them,

1342
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:49.479
so like they can can't get out, and when the

1343
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:53.319
bus parks, they the door's open and they like push

1344
01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:58.640
out Jeff and he's he's bound and gagged, and they

1345
01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:02.520
the group, the group of people that's kidnaped Jeff they're

1346
01:14:02.520 --> 01:14:08.079
all wearing hoods, and they say like, you either give

1347
01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:11.600
us Brandy or we're killing Jeff. Isn't that it?

1348
01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:14.000
No, no, no. They send them a text telling you'll

1349
01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:15.760
leave the r V or they'll kill Jeff.

1350
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:16.600
That's what it is.

1351
01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:20.399
In the school bus. So they're they're like, come out

1352
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:24.880
and you know, or will kill Jeff. So Zach does it,

1353
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:26.960
but the rest of the group doesn't want to, and

1354
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:29.720
then they're all dragged out. Yeah, like by all these

1355
01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:33.159
Haunt actors just burst in and pulled them out, and

1356
01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:36.840
then they're they're put in hoods and bound and then

1357
01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:40.520
put in the school bus to be driven off. So

1358
01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:43.960
U and Zach is the only one that's like keeping

1359
01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:46.199
the faith. He's like, this is part of the experience

1360
01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:46.800
they're selling.

1361
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:50.600
Yeah, this is it, this is it. This is it, guys,

1362
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:54.760
No one else believes him. I think what I got

1363
01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:58.960
myself confused with is that's when since they're all separated though,

1364
01:14:59.479 --> 01:15:03.680
that's when they throw Brandy in the trunk of the car.

1365
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:06.079
Well, that's after they arrive. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, that

1366
01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:07.880
happens because they're all on the bus together.

1367
01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:08.319
Yeah.

1368
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:10.840
Yeah. When they get to the location, the men are

1369
01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:13.560
all dragged out and Brandy is driven to another location.

1370
01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:17.359
She's given a camera and told to like film everything

1371
01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:23.000
going on around her. So after that, all the group

1372
01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:25.119
end up in like a haunt that seems like kind

1373
01:15:25.159 --> 01:15:28.880
of a traditional haunt, except that it's deadly, I suppose,

1374
01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:31.800
and it's it's got a lot of good scares, a

1375
01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:35.600
lot of classic haunt scares, creepy little girl character that's

1376
01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:39.159
really you know, messes with you. This is stuff that

1377
01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:41.920
like definitely gives you a strong payoff.

1378
01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:47.479
Yeah, they do. They do bring back the glo stick gag.

1379
01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:51.439
Yeah, the globstick gag was really effective in that first

1380
01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:54.720
kind of trial movie they did. Yeah, and they do

1381
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:57.680
they bring it back a little bit. But yeah, like

1382
01:15:57.800 --> 01:16:00.359
Zach is putting like a pitch black room, he gets

1383
01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:05.119
like bludgeoned to death. Yeah, and then everybody's terrorized until

1384
01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:08.239
it's kind of revealed that the whole plan is to

1385
01:16:09.159 --> 01:16:15.079
burn them alive in coffins, which is mortifying. But meanwhile

1386
01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:19.359
Brandy's being buried alive in a coffin. Yeah, and she

1387
01:16:19.479 --> 01:16:23.239
gets to sit there and film knowing that she's being

1388
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:25.239
buried alive, which is very, very scary, And I think

1389
01:16:25.279 --> 01:16:29.119
she even referenced that being buried alive is terrifying, which

1390
01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:31.319
I mean, what a weird fear? Who's afraid of that?

1391
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:33.560
Yeah? That's odd.

1392
01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:34.359
Yeah, what.

1393
01:16:37.479 --> 01:16:41.720
I like the ending. I like how it kind of

1394
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:48.039
tied the tension together because you've got the start of

1395
01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:51.079
the movie where you know that shit hits the fan,

1396
01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:53.600
but you don't know how, and so kind of like

1397
01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:57.920
seeing how it all plays out. I really, I really

1398
01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:04.600
really like that. And yeah, I feel that of of

1399
01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:08.359
all of the found footage films that we've been watching

1400
01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:11.800
this summer, I feel like this one does have one

1401
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:16.319
of the strongest reasons why they would keep filming, oh,

1402
01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:19.399
even even when things like going sideways.

1403
01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:21.760
Well, especially since then they're being forced to film once

1404
01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:23.600
they Yeah, yeah that helps.

1405
01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:28.199
That helps a lot. You're being forced to film. But

1406
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:35.119
I think that it's definitely a strong, uh found footage film,

1407
01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:40.279
and I think that being found footage definitely makes it

1408
01:17:40.399 --> 01:17:42.720
a little bit scarier than it would have been if

1409
01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:46.119
it would have been just like a straight narrative film.

1410
01:17:46.399 --> 01:17:48.680
But I also think that this one blurs the line

1411
01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:52.199
a little bit more between found footage and narrative film,

1412
01:17:52.279 --> 01:17:55.800
just because it does have that that sequence at the

1413
01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:57.840
beginning kind of showing you what happens.

1414
01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:02.039
Okay, yeah, I mean technically it's still not a narrative film,

1415
01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:05.439
I guess, yeah, But I mean having that like cold

1416
01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:08.920
open kind of tease. There's a filmmaking term for it.

1417
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:14.760
I'm trying to remember. It's called like in media stress

1418
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:18.119
in midas res, medias res.

1419
01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:21.159
In medias res. Yeah, that's what Wikipedia says.

1420
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:23.920
Which in the middle of things, or in the start

1421
01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:26.720
of things or in the yeah, in the middle, so

1422
01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:30.960
which is yeah, showing like something from later at the beginning,

1423
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:33.279
which is a very common, you know, way to kind

1424
01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:36.000
of get people excited about what's going to happen later

1425
01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:40.039
on in a story. No, I think the characters sell

1426
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.439
it really well. I think the scares are really well done.

1427
01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:47.199
It's unlike next week's film Hell House LLC. This one

1428
01:18:47.239 --> 01:18:53.760
is entirely about humans causing causing danger for humans. No ghosts,

1429
01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:58.239
no supernatural, it's people, which I think keeps it makes

1430
01:18:58.279 --> 01:18:58.920
it scarier.

1431
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:02.239
It does absolutely agree. Well, It's like I said, you know,

1432
01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:05.920
during the bar scene, it's like, sometimes you have to

1433
01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:11.000
remember that reality is much scarier than than the fantasy

1434
01:19:11.399 --> 01:19:17.520
of horror movies or haunts or you know what have you. Yeah,

1435
01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:19.359
humans are the scariest monsters.

1436
01:19:20.159 --> 01:19:22.399
I mean, at least they're the ones you actually encounter,

1437
01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:24.800
you know, day and day out. Yeah, I'd be much

1438
01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:28.079
more afraid of what people would do than anything because

1439
01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:28.960
people are real.

1440
01:19:29.239 --> 01:19:31.359
Yeah it helps, Yeah, that does help.

1441
01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:34.239
So but I mean in the realm of found footage,

1442
01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:35.800
because you know you've been going through this like found

1443
01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:39.319
footage education. Where does it stand to you as a

1444
01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:40.840
as a scary movie?

1445
01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:46.800
Hmmm, I'm gonna say on a scale of one to ten,

1446
01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:52.479
this was a seven. It's definitely definitely up there. I'd

1447
01:19:52.479 --> 01:19:58.039
say that it definitely wasn't wasn't quite as scary as

1448
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:01.840
reck that one. I thin think like scared me more,

1449
01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:08.079
but I definitely think that, Yeah, it's up there. I'm

1450
01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:11.239
trying to think what it would But what else I

1451
01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:14.319
could compare it to that we've that we've watched recently,

1452
01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:16.399
you know, because I don't want to say like, oh,

1453
01:20:16.439 --> 01:20:20.720
it's so much better than so much better than Cloverfield,

1454
01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:22.479
but Cloverfield's one of my favorites.

1455
01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:24.079
So I mean, you don't have to if you don't

1456
01:20:24.079 --> 01:20:26.520
think that, I don't know why you would have to.

1457
01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:30.399
What about what about you I mean, I think it's.

1458
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:33.880
A solid it's solidly kind of in the middle. I

1459
01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:38.359
would consider it, you know, memorable. It didn't scare the

1460
01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:39.960
hell out of me, but I had a really fun

1461
01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:43.319
time watching it. I thought overall it made sense. It

1462
01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:47.479
didn't break too many logical rules, which I always appreciate

1463
01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:49.760
in a found footage movie. So, I mean, I think

1464
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:53.479
it's worth watching if you like Halloween time horror movies.

1465
01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:56.000
Regardless of its found footage element.

1466
01:20:56.399 --> 01:20:59.800
I agree, it'll definitely get you in the mood for Halloween.

1467
01:21:00.319 --> 01:21:04.119
Yeah, without a doubt. So in speaking of our next show,

1468
01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:07.479
we're going to be covering hell House LLC, a film

1469
01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:10.079
that came out a year after they basically came out,

1470
01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:12.880
like seven or eight months apart, but it's very similar

1471
01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:15.399
except in concept. This one is about a group of

1472
01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:19.880
people who are opening a brand new haunt in a

1473
01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:25.039
real haunted location just outside of New York City. I

1474
01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:27.560
love the title Hellhouse LLC. I think that's just a

1475
01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:31.600
perfect way to represent it. It's available to watch with

1476
01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:36.119
ads on YouTube, two b TV, Pluto TV, the Roku,

1477
01:21:36.239 --> 01:21:39.079
Channel Plex, all those places have it available to watch

1478
01:21:39.359 --> 01:21:42.039
free with ads, or you can watch it on Shutter

1479
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:46.600
or AMC Plus with your subscription, so it's very easy

1480
01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:48.319
to get a hold of and give it a watch

1481
01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:50.039
if you've never seen it. It's a lot of fun.

1482
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:53.520
It's very different they have they're in a similar vein,

1483
01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:57.239
but they're really not similar at all. Yeah, hell ELSLC

1484
01:21:57.399 --> 01:22:02.000
has all kinds of mind trickery and haunting stuff that

1485
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:05.279
I think works pretty damn well. And Hellous All See

1486
01:22:05.319 --> 01:22:09.920
has like five sequels to Houses October Bilts one sequel.

1487
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:13.119
So there you go. So that's what we'll be covering

1488
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:16.319
next time. So is there anything else you got.

1489
01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:21.640
Rach uh No, I'm just really getting I'm really getting

1490
01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:24.920
excited for spooky season now. Like now I'm thinking, like, oh,

1491
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:29.159
we got to like get the decorations ready and go to.

1492
01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:32.119
A haunt that closes at eight thirty pm, so you

1493
01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:32.640
can make it.

1494
01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:36.159
I'll just drink a ton of coffee.

1495
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:38.479
There you go. Well, thank you all so much for

1496
01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:40.920
joining us on cutting deep into horror. I hope you

1497
01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:44.720
enjoyed our little conversation about haunts and the films about them.

1498
01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:46.359
If you want to send us an email, you could

1499
01:22:46.359 --> 01:22:48.840
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1500
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1501
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1502
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1510
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1511
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