June 29, 2026

Monthly Spooky | The Pied Piper of Hamelin Mystery: 77 Headless Skeletons & Gracie the Missing Giraffe

Monthly Spooky | The Pied Piper of Hamelin Mystery: 77 Headless Skeletons & Gracie the Missing Giraffe
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What really happened to the children of Hamelin on June 26, 1284? This June on Monthly Spooky, Henrique and Michelle follow the real history behind the Pied Piper of Hamelin—from the medieval town chronicle and the legend of 130 missing children to theories involving plague, the Children’s Crusade, dancing mania, mass migration, and a brightly dressed recruiter known as a “locator.” Then the show takes its usual turn into the month’s funniest, creepiest, and most bewildering paranormal news, bizarre archaeology, weird science, unexplained mysteries, strange animals, haunted houses, and new horror movies.Inside this episode:

  • The Pied Piper of Hamelin, June 26, 1284, and the earliest surviving evidence behind one of history’s darkest fairy tales
  • Why plague, the Children’s Crusade, medieval dancing mania, German migration, and supernatural forces have all been proposed as explanations
  • A 7,000-year-old mass grave at Vráble, Slovakia, containing 78 bodies—and 77 headless skeletons
  • Reported ghostly child footprints, handprints, and unexplained noises inside an appliance shop in Mendoza, Argentina
  • United Airlines Flight 236 turning back toward Newark after a Bluetooth device appeared under the alarming name “BOMB”
  • The still-unfolding search for Gracie, the giraffe who escaped Cedar Hollow Ranch and disappeared into the rugged Texas Hill Country
  • Scientists baking sourdough bread with yeast recovered from Ötzi the Iceman’s 5,300-year-old mummy
  • The Ocean Census announcing 1,121 strange marine species—including a ghost shark and a mysterious worm living inside a deep-sea “glass castle”
  • A live frog named Greg discovered inside a sealed Woolworths bag of lettuce in Esperance, Western Australia
  • Australia’s record seizure of 100,000 illegal Madagascar hissing and Dubia cockroaches
  • Virginia’s allegedly haunted Octagon Mansion, a Civil War-era paranormal landmark listed for only $295,000
  • Henrique’s spoiler-light theater reactions to Scary Movie (2026), Passenger, and The Death of Robin Hood
  • A terrifying Reddit “glitch in reality” story about a finished basement that suddenly ceased to exist—and the disturbing gas-leak explanation behind it
  • Henrique’s growing Dayton folklore TikTok audience, local urban legends, and the viewers determined to correct every detail
New here? Monthly Spooky is the paranormal comedy and weird-news companion to Weekly Spooky, hosted by filmmaker Henrique Couto and Michelle. Every episode mixes haunted history, creepy folklore, unexplained mysteries, bizarre science, strange but true news, horror movie reviews, and the kind of late-night conversation that makes frightening stories even more fun.Follow or subscribe so you never miss the last Monday of the month. Which mystery gets under your skin most: Hamelin’s missing children, Slovakia’s headless dead, Mendoza’s phantom footprints—or the house whose basement seemingly vanished? And seriously—how do you lose a giraffe?

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The evil Truth of the Pied Piper, seventy seven headless

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skeletons found in a mass gray ghost children haunting a

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city in Argentina, And how on earth do you lose

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a giraffe in Texas? Get comfortable, turn off the life.

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It's Monthly Spooky. Welcome back, my spookies. It is indeed

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you want to say it?

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Cell No, it's okay.

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Oh that time of the month. It's time for Monthly Spooky.

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And of course I'm your host, Enrique Kuto here with

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my good buddy and co host Michelle. Michelle, how are you?

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What was that?

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I don't know, I'm not like good or something.

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Is this because of the mosaic? Because you cut yourself

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making a I.

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Cut myself like four times making the mosaic. It's not

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that big of a deal one day or just in

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or total in making it total in this part of

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the mosaic. But one day I cut myself twice. But

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but to be fair, once it was on the mosaic,

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and then I had a bandit down my hand, so

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I was like kind of clumsy, and then I cut

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my other finger on the same hand trying to lock

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my basement door. I got it like jammed in the.

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Dead bolt, so okay, and.

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I spilled water that had you know, uh were out

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in it all over myself instead of the sink, just

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like down my body because it was really heavy and

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the sink is high up and I just mixed.

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Okay, that's see. That makes more sense than if it

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like when you first described it. I imagine like a cup,

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like a small like drinking cup worth and you just

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went wah, it just hit you instead of the sink somehow. No,

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it makes a lot more sense when it's a big bucket. Yeah, okay, yeah, wow,

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no wonder. You were just nodding politely when I was like,

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oh my morning, McDonald's messed up my order and then

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I was running late for this, and you're just like,

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I've been through hell.

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Those are the good things that happened.

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Okay, what are the bad things?

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I don't know. Gigs that are teeth removed people just

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one of them and one fell out magically and we

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don't know how they're just gone. They were like there

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used to be five teeth and now there's four. We

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don't know which one because they're so messed up.

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Things so so so gigs had one tooth removed, but

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another one came out.

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On its own, but not not then, just some point,

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just in the last point couple of years.

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Yeah, that happens.

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Well, it's not supposed to.

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Well, I mean, I wouldn't say it's supposed to, but

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it does. I mean, that is just a thing that happens.

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You get older and you know, animals, people, we lose

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teeth just.

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Just all of a sudden, and the little tiny ones

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that are all messed up at the.

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Bottom, especially the little tiny ones. Oh, just saying when

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I had dogs, those were the teeth that got removed

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the most, for those little tiny ones at the bottom.

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M hm.

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And I mean they know we only had to remove

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a few, but like, yeah, those would be the ones

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that have to come out.

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Well, normally she uses she loses the big ones.

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I'm glad she's not losing any more big ones.

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Well she did. Well, there's one more big one that

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she's eventually gonna lose.

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So okay, fine, geez.

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So it's been rough.

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I mean, how's gigs that feel about it? Though?

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I'm sure she didn't enjoy it.

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You don't know that, did you? Ask?

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No? Because I didn't want to upset her. Anymore, because

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sometimes I ask and then she goes on for like

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five hours. So no, not, okay, not again?

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Okay, Is there are there any more grievances you need

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to air about the last few days or week or

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whatever span of time this has all occurred.

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I had two really bad inspections and then also Banana

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Fish is getting taken off Amazon Prime, so there you go.

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Oh my gosh, well, I mean the home inspections that

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that was pretty lame. I'm assuming you're talking about the

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ones I, uh, they've talked to me about while banana

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Fish is leaving Prime.

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In ten days?

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In ten days, do they have any idea where it's

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going to go?

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I don't. I just know it's leaving Prime, and so

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do the reddit people. So you know, I haven't really

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looked into it more than that.

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Well, if the reddit people said it, then it has

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to be true.

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Well considering, I was like, I don't know if this

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is true. So then I checked on Prime and it

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was true.

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Oh, they have a little ticker things.

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In ten days. Yeah.

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Oh you're afraid it's gonna go away forever? I mean,

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don't you don't have any copies?

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There's well, there's not an official uh subtitled or subtitled

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copy that was released.

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Oh really?

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Yeah? So, I mean the only way for me to

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get it would either to be either get it in Japanese,

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which I may already have, or to pirate it, which

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I may already have but probably not.

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So Okay, Well, I feel bad for you.

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Thanks. This was this, This happened just last night, so

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I'm still a little upset.

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I'm sorry.

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I could tell you can just go on. Stop to

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talk about.

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Talk amongst yourselves, so much talk amongst yourselves.

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None of this is important.

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Well, I mean, it's monthly spooky. We're just you know,

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we're catching up with everybody before we talk about like

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ghost children and giant cockroaches or whatever I have lined up.

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I don't remember if it was a giant cockroacher or

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a person selling cockroaches.

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I hope it's a giant cockroach me.

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Too, But now I think it's probably a person selling cockroaches.

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I want to guess that's okay.

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I mean I don't think it is, though I think it.

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I think the guy got arrested. Oh man, why we'll

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have to This is a great tease. We'll find out

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later because it's in the list of stories recovering this month.

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For me, see, I'm I'm not all stressed out because,

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unlike you, I've been dunking myself in frigid water every day.

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Sure I have.

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I believe you.

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Okay, I think it's upsetting. Well, I mean that is

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kind of the point, is is it like gives you

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a little shock? Yeah, it's okay. I was in the

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ice tub the other day and Rachel was passing by

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to go into the house, and I told her to

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put her hand in for a second. She didn't. She

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was like, oh my god, it's so cold. I was like,

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it's not even that cold. It's forty five degrees.

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That's cold.

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I mean, I'm not saying it's not cold, it's just

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it's not that cold. I mean it is when you

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dunk your whole body in it, But for just your hand,

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it's fine. Everybody's wimpy, I don't think so. I'm sorry.

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You know, cold showers just weren't getting it done anymore.

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I had to go, I had to go even further. So.

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But boy, when you come out of that thing, you feel,

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you feel positive, you feel happy and happy. Go luck.

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You had ready to take on your day I tell

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you that much. Okay, what you think you would just cry?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, but that's good too because that releases cord, is

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all right maybe, I mean, all right, fine, I'm just

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saying I like it, I know, and.

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I'm happy for you. I guess.

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The other interesting thing that's been going on is my

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TikTok is like it's not like exploding obscenely, but it's

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growing at a really fast rate. I'm gaining about seventy

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or eighty followers a day. Wow. Yeah, like I have

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doubled the followers. I doubled my followers in like two

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and a half weeks. It's really odd. And what I

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did was I do these little tiktoks about folklore and

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you know, stuff I'm into obviously, and I did a

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couple about Dayton, Ohio, like folklore and legends and urban

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legends and stuff, and it's just feeding that to people

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that are in the Dayton area. The algorithm is feeding

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it and people are following like crazy. So I've been

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doing only Dayton stuff, which turns out there's quite a bit,

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and people just keep commenting like, oh, but what about

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this road or what about this bridge? So then I'm like, oh,

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I'll go follow up on all of them. Then.

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So it's been pretty cool other than the fact that

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it is TikTok and I've never enjoyed being on TikTok

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particularly and uh, but my favorite thing is I'll say,

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like in a video, I'll say, like, in a town

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outside of Dayton, Ohio, there's a road that's haunted, you

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know or whatever, and and people literally common go, it's

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not in Dayton, it's in Carlisle. And I'm like, yeah,

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that's outside of Dayton, Ohio. And then and then uh,

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or I said, like on a road near Dayton, Ohio,

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and so we said, it's not near Dayton. And then

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somebody before I even comment, somebody's like, uh, it's twenty

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minutes from me, and I live in that place, and

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I go, when I go to date, it takes twenty minutes.

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And somebody's like, it's really closer to Middletown.

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What geez and Middletown.

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But it's also funny because like Middletown is a town

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halfway between Dayton and Cincinnati. So people aren't going to

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generally relate middle town. They're going to relate the major cities, right,

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So if you say someplace is near Dayton, Ohio. That's

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suggesting it's closer to Dayton than it is to Cincinnati

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or Columbus. That's really all you're saying is that it's

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the largest major city in Ohio to it. But it's

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been funny that that is like the thing people are

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constantly saying, like, that's not where it is, that's not

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where it is. And then one of my favorites was

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I talked about some haunted road. I think it was

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Foigny Road, and some guy was like, uh, I live

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in that town and I've never heard of it and

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I don't even know where that is, so like is

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this real? Like does this even exist? And I had

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to comment. I was like, dude, I'm not trying to

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be rude, but like I googled it and found where

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the road was immediately like you yeah, look like what

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do you needing to tell you? Like which McDonald's you

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turn left at to get to it? Like, I don't

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know what you want from me? Pal.

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Yeah.

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So but at least the mean people have eased up.

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There were some mean people, but my favorite is people

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think I'm ai, which I guess I'll take as flattering

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because my picture quality is very high and my audio

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quality is very high. And I think that's exactly why

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you know too much, and then like a gift with

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that's been an adventure. If anybody listening to this discovered

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the podcast through TikTok, wonderful, because that's my only goal

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is funny too because people will comment and be like,

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and I'm like, well, don't listen here where it's sixty seconds.

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Ye go to weekly Spooky for the love of God,

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for the love of all that's holy and none holy. Probably,

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but I have been shocked at the sheer amount of

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folklore in and around this area. I was not prepared

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for it to be that much. Yeah, like in Germantown, Ohio,

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which is not far away at all unless you ask

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these people. They're like, it's nowhere in your dayton. My

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mom grew up in Germantown. It's fifteen minutes away from me.

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But uh, they have the Butter Street Monster. WHOA what

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Like is the street called Butter Street or is it

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street's called Butter Street. But apparently there were a bunch

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of people in the sixties and seventies who claimed they

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saw like a sasquatch looking creature on Butter Street. But

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then some people commented and said that in the nineties

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when they were growing up, their grandma used to tell

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them stories about the Butter Street Monster and they thought

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it was a giant snake.

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folks were. And then some people be like, I've lived

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in Germantown for forty five years and I've never heard

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of this, And I'm like, that's what's so fascinating. I

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wish they'd stop acting like that means it doesn't exist.

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I mean the worst perst too. The videos aren't like, hey,

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this really happened, they're hey, people talk about this and

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then somebody says bullshit, and I have to go no, Like,

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look at the comments. People are literally saying like, oh yeah,

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we used to, you know, on sleepovers, we would sneak

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it's like it's funny how that works. But on that note,

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we're going to take a quick break and when we

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get back, we're going to talk all about some spooky news.

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We're back, and Chell, I suppose it is time for

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the spooky news, the spooky news. So I have a

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question for you, Michelle, Yes, how many headless skeletons is

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too many? Like, if you discovered headless skeletons, how many

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would be the amount that you would be like, oh shit.

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I think five?

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Yeah, because I think anything lower than five. I could

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only figure out a reason that it would make sense

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that there'd be a bunch of headless skeletons.

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Okay, no, that sound unfortunately, this one is gonna be

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a lot for you. Then, like six from people dot com,

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archaeologists found a seven thousand year old mass grave filled

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with seventy seven headless skeletons and they still don't know why.

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Well, I assume they buried the heads somewhere else.

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I mean that would be I hope so, because otherwise,

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what are you doing with the I don't want to

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know what you're doing with them heads.

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Maybe maybe they just didn't have heads, Maybe they just

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had some kind of congenital defect where they have heads?

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Is that a thing? Maybe I feel like it very necessary?

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Maybe existence, Maybe we're just wrong.

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Okay, I mean, maybe maybe we need to reconsider our prejudices. Okay,

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now I can respect that.

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Good. Archaeologists studying a seven thousand year old settlement in

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present day Slovakia expected to learn more about how some

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of Europe's earliest farming communities lived. Instead, they uncovered a

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mystery they're still trying to explain. Buried in a ditch

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near the settlement, where the remains of seventy eight people,

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but all but all but one were missing their heads.

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There was one person with a head.

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What did that one person do with all the other

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people's heads?

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I like how you're like, that's what brings the most.

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I kind of agree with you. That's what brings the most.

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Question is, okay, well, we've established a pattern of seventy

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seven headless corpses. Why is there one with a head?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, yeah, like was the person doing it? Just they

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get lazy, They're like, I'm tired of this. I just

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want to go home.

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Yeah. Oh, we don't need to take this guy's heat off.

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Is that worth it? The discovery, detailed in a recent

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study published in Proceedings of the Prehistoric Society, was made

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at Vrabel, one of the largest known Neolithic settlements in

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Central Europe. Researchers say the unusual burial site offers a

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rare glimpse into how some early farming communities may have

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viewed death and the human body. At first glance, the

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scene appears to suggest violence. I mean, I mean, is

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there such thing as like a non violent decapitation. I mean,

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if if you were dalking, like you're like duh, yeah,

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I mean come.

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On, no, I don't know. I don't know if you can,

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if you can consider violence if it was post mortem,

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like if they're just.

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I see, yeah, I feel like it still feels like

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a violent act, just because like it's not like cutting

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off ahead of something you can do as easily as like,

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you know, enjoying a Twizzler's pull and peel. I like

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Twizzler's pool and peel. Are you down with the pool

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and peel?

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I like them, but also I don't think they have

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as good like teeth, mouthfeel as like a regular Twizzler.

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Oh, they're definitely different. They're not that they don't scratch

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the same itch. They're They're two different candies without a doubt.

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I do enjoy braiding the pull in peel if you

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don't braid them and then.

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Eat them, Yeah, yeah, that's the best way to do it.

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The bodies were found piled together in different positions with

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no obvious order, but after examining the remains, researchers concluded

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the evidence does not clearly point to a massacre. Instead,

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marks on the neck bones suggest the skulls were carefully

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removed like a Twizzler's pulling po No, uh, carefully removed

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after death using sharp tools. The research, I mean, they'd

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have to be sharp. I would guess if.

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It's going to be careful, Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, I mean if they were already skeletons, I guess

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you could use like blunt instruments. But like I'm guessing

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these were corpses when they would beheaded, would like skin

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and things with skin and such. Yeah.

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The Researchers also found that many of the skeletons remained

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largely intact, including fragile joints that likely would not have

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survived if the bodies had been left exposed for long periods.

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Uh oh, the plot's about to thicken. Shell. Really, only

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one individual, a child, was found with a skull still attached.

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Okay, I'm sticking to my theory. This child did it

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and then yeah, took off their heads.

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Like one of those super genius children from like the

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Twilight Zone or something.

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Yeah. Yeah, the cornfields.

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Yeah, where the missing heads went remains one of the

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site's biggest mysteries. I mean, that's not that hard. Just

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call around and be like, you know, hey, Yuri, did

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you find seventy seven heads? And they're like, oh, yeah,

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down the road like eighty four miles we filled seventy

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seven heads. It's like, ah, I think I figured it out.

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There you go.

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Archaeologists recovered only a handful of skull fragments from the ditch,

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leading some researchers to wonder whether the skulls were taken

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elsewhere as part of a ritual practice. Well, it sure

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sounds ritualistic if they did it. Seventy seven times.

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Maybe.

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I mean, I mean, do you feel like it's not

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like a lark when you do something seventy seven times?

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Unless that's eating a grain of rice. You could do

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that on a lark. If it's seventy seven times it Yes,

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there's a lot of rice and rice. I stand by

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that sentence one thousand percent. There's a lot of rice

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and rice. Well, you don't think it sounds ritualistic.

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No, I do. I can't imagine it's anything other than

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kind of the way they buried Pea probably at the time.

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Yeah, But then the one child with their head on,

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that's the part that that throws me.

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Maybe yeah, maybe they didn't bury kids with their heads off.

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Maybe it was the only kid that would That would

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seem right, although I don't know if they've They didn't

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say that it was the only child child there. They

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just said it was a child with the skull still attached. Yeah, yeah. Quote.

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Because of the spectacular nature of sorry, the way just

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saying spectacular feels funny, and that of the mass disposition itself,

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the level of complexity with respect to the treatment of

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human bodies and the dispositional practices at the site is

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easily overlooked. The studies. Authors wrote that complexity is part

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of what makes the discovery so significant. The researchers noted

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that evidence from the roble Robel could shed could help

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shed light on broader questions about quote, ritual violence, social relations,

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and cosmology among some of Europe's earliest farming societies. I mean,

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I suppose so it might reveal some stuff you don't

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want to share it with everybody. But we were just

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really into heads. Yeah, yeah, it's really into it. Yeah,

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everybody was. It was the eighties, the four eighties. BC

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scientists are now conducting additional analyzes, including DNA testing and

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isotope studies, to learn more about the individuals buried at

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the site and whether they were related to one another.

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For now, the authors believe the discovery raises as many

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questions as it answers. Quote the evidence from Brabel adds

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important information for the larger picture of late LBK communities

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in Europe, They wrote, suggesting the site may ultimately change

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what archaeologists understand about life and death in the Neolithic world. Yay,

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I mean, I'm assuming that they'll at least vaguely related,

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only because how deep can a gene pool be when

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you know, in the Neolithic, I don't know. I mean,

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it's not like you know, people are traveling alone very far.

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I don't know. I feel like there wouldn't be an

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immense amount of genetic variants.

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I mean, I guess, but we really don't know.

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But it would be helpful to know if like these

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were all people from the same like closer family, and

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like it was some kind of a family ritual like

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burial ritual thing. M yeah, but the single child still

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having a head is the weird the weirdest part.

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I don't know. I'm thinking now, maybe he was the

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last one, like maybe they all died of an illness

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and he was the only one left to perform the

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ritual head removing ceremonies and then he died, and then

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something that filled it in.

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Because he didn't have the ability to build like a

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guillotine that he could like, you know, pull it himself.

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He didn't really think that far ahead.

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Well, now you're just insulting his intelligence. That's pretty good, okay,

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if you say so. I mean, they didn't even say

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what age the kid was, and they didn't even say

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if he was Jewish. If he was Jewish, then if

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he's fourteen, he's a.

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Man, that's true. I thought he was probably younger than

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that though. That's probably so because I felt like if

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he was fourteen, they might have said an adolescent. Mmm.

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Okay yeah, and I really the big thing is I

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would have liked to know where there are other children

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in there? M hm you know? Or was that the

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only child and the only one with a head?

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Yeah?

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But speaking of dead children, jeez, what a great, great transition.

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When we get back, we're going to be talking about

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some ghost kids. Right after this. We are back and Chell,

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we're heading to our old buddies at Mirror dot co

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dot uk, where when I was skimming the the weird

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news section of Mirror dot co dot uk, it turned

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out this was like the only news story they'd published

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recently that wasn't very very clearly an ad wow like

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it was, and it may still be, by the way.

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I guess good for them. I hope they're getting money

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from these things.

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One of them was like literally a story of celebrity

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had told about seeing a ghost once, but but it

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really just kept talking about the movie she was in

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that was not even a hope, like a movie about ghosts.

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Wow.

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Yeah, so I was like, I'm gonna move on. But

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for Mirror dot co dot UK, the headline reads ghost

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kids haunt city center shop and leave tiny footprints every night. Wow,

457
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:05.279
they are footprints. They don't look that tiny though, what

458
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:09.799
I mean? I mean maybe I'm crazy though maybe I'm

459
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:12.839
wrong on that one, like see you see them?

460
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:16.240
Yeah, but I mean I can't really compare without something

461
00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:17.519
for scale, you.

462
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:19.240
Know, yeah, exactly.

463
00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:23.200
And also why are they like black like that?

464
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:29.680
Yeah? That I don't know either. I mean staff at

465
00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:34.680
a city center electricals shop. British people man electricals shop.

466
00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:40.440
I'm guessing it means electronics maybe say they're being hounded

467
00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:44.480
by eerie goings on that quote make your skin crawl,

468
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:51.559
including barefoot, child size footprints and handprints mysteriously appearing on

469
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:59.559
freshly mopped floors. What Celle, I saw you think? You

470
00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:02.039
almost say something twice? What's on your mind?

471
00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:04.400
Well, I was just thinking if the floors are just

472
00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:07.880
mopped and they're not dry, it's much easier to leave

473
00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:11.400
like footprints and like mud prints and stuff because it

474
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:13.680
just gets all wet on the bottom of your foot

475
00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:15.319
and then it's going on the floor.

476
00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:19.839
I don't know, true I mean, I mean, it's mostly

477
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:22.160
just frustrated. It's like I just cleaned that and now

478
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:23.440
ghosts are walking on it.

479
00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:25.799
Maybe you should stop cleaning the floors.

480
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:28.559
Then, that doesn't sound like a good solution.

481
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:30.319
I think that's perfect.

482
00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:33.559
Why do you like dirt floors, like dirty floors so

483
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.319
much then, because why are you in the pocket of

484
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:37.680
big dirty floor.

485
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:44.480
Because they pay me? I don't know, I.

486
00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:48.640
Mean, fair, I can't, I can't argue with that. Workers

487
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:51.400
at the appliance store, located in the heart of Mendoza,

488
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:55.680
Argentina told the Mendoza Posts that the activity has ramped

489
00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.519
up in recent weeks and they now feel it is

490
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:04.200
impossible to ignore. I assumed it was going to be

491
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:06.079
in the UK because almost all their stories are in

492
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:11.160
the UK. But yeah, Argentina, all right. According to the team,

493
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:16.079
the spooky streak began as a series of odd explainable moments,

494
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:20.559
strange noises out back, the odd scuff mark where none

495
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:24.519
should be, But then came clear prints that looked like

496
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:30.039
the wet impressions of little feet and tiny hands dotted

497
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:34.680
around the shop floor come morning, despite the place being

498
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.039
scrubbed spotless at.

499
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:44.920
Clothes, I mean, yeah, somebody's getting in there. Huh.

500
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:46.680
I mean like a little child.

501
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:48.960
Yeah, like a little child.

502
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:51.759
You think like little kids are just like sneaking into

503
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:53.119
this place and like running around.

504
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:56.960
They're like squatting in there. That's where they sleep overnight.

505
00:27:57.359 --> 00:27:59.799
Well they're not squatting, they're walking. That's why they footprints.

506
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.240
Hey yeah, well you can spot.

507
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.279
Well maybe you can miss strong hips and knees over here.

508
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:14.839
Let's see, uh quote, we thought, let's document it. We

509
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.720
took photos, We checked the cameras to see what was happening,

510
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:21.720
one salesperson said. Another added quote, it gives you a

511
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:27.079
weird feeling like there's something else here. Crucially, the stor's

512
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:32.039
alarms reportedly never trigger triggered. The closed circuit television showed

513
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:35.240
quote no one, no one, no one in, and no

514
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:39.559
one passing. Yet the marks kept turning up by opening

515
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:48.119
time they would set off an alarm. You'd think, what if, like.

516
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.759
Because they did they like clean them up, Like I'm

517
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:54.160
wondering if maybe there's something on the surface that is

518
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.880
like hoily or like a crayon or something so that

519
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.640
when you like mop it, it's just like the water,

520
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:02.359
you know, doesn't stick on it, and you get these

521
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:03.640
points that come through.

522
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.200
But there's well, if the photo we saw is accurate,

523
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.640
then that's not what it looks like though. It looks

524
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:10.079
like dirt.

525
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:12.640
But is that a real photo or do they just

526
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:13.279
make one?

527
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:23.559
It suggests it's a real photo. Okay, yeah, I mean

528
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:26.680
it doesn't have an attribution, so I have no idea

529
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:35.240
how mirror dot co dot uk. Let's see what really

530
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:39.519
rattled the staff was the shape and size of the impressions. Quote.

531
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:42.920
When we close, we clean, we wash the floor, a

532
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:46.559
worker told Mendoza Post. When we arrive in the morning,

533
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:50.480
there are footprints, like barefoot children's feet in different parts

534
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:56.039
of the store. Do you think that one day they

535
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:57.960
just didn't clean the floor and the boss caught him

536
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:00.119
and they're like, no, no, we cleaned the floors. And

537
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:05.960
this just keeps showing up. Its ghosts, totally ghost don't

538
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:06.359
fire me.

539
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:08.319
You always clean the floor at night.

540
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:13.119
Alongside those were small palm prints, sometimes lined up in

541
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:16.880
a way that suggested someone or something had been moving

542
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:20.039
low to the ground, like crawling.

543
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:22.799
Were there like knee prints too?

544
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:25.119
They don't have to be knee prints. You can crawl

545
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:28.759
like un just your feet in your hands. That's advanced

546
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:29.839
crawling technique.

547
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:31.240
Fine.

548
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:34.480
Quote, it's like they've been crawling through the shop. Another

549
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.720
employee remarked the pattern they claim has turned into a

550
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:42.039
strange routine. The evening clean banishes all marks, the morning

551
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:47.559
reveals fresh ones in new spots. Quote. It leaves you

552
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:51.359
with a strange sensation, said a warehouse worker. At first,

553
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:54.440
we thought the noises were bleeding in from nearby businesses.

554
00:30:55.039 --> 00:31:01.119
Now we don't know. Ooh. In the back, where boxes

555
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:05.799
of blenders and TVs sit stacked high, the team reports bumps, shuffles,

556
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:09.640
and the odd clatter even when just one person is

557
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:15.880
working alone. Quote, there are sounds, movement and movement. One said,

558
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:18.640
we thought it could be from neighboring shops, but now

559
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.599
we're not sure. With curiosity morphing into concern, the crew

560
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:27.319
dug into the site's history and claimed they uncovered an

561
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:33.440
eerie echo of the past. Oh now we're talking. Yeah,

562
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.119
Before it was an appliance showroom, the corner of Calais

563
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.720
Espanna and General Pause were once an area of modest,

564
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:46.200
low houses and bustling tenements. According to the staff's research,

565
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:50.680
nearby ran the railway, and the neighborhood teamed with immigrant

566
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:54.240
families seeking a start. In the past, the place would

567
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:59.119
have had children scurrying about from dusk till dawn. That

568
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:02.920
has the shop whork shops workers wondering whether yesterday's footsteps

569
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.240
might somehow be in printing on today.

570
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:08.279
Yeah.

571
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.079
I mean, you know, if they had found like that

572
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:17.039
a school bus full of kids had blown up or something, maybe,

573
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:19.759
but the fact that they were like, whoa, this was

574
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.519
like a neighborhood before it was a building. It's like, okay, oh.

575
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:30.599
Places were yeah sort of yeah, I don't give or take. Yeah, yeah,

576
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:33.640
I mean I guess it. I wish I had like

577
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.480
more pictures that I could look at because I'm wondering

578
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:41.519
if it's something that just wouldn't trigger cameras, maybe because

579
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:45.000
it's too small. It's like a raccoon and they're getting confused.

580
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.440
Well, but I mean, yeah, I guess if the images

581
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.759
didn't look like human feet, I.

582
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.640
Don't know, or they like kind of like human.

583
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.839
Feet, it could just be a little kid like little

584
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.720
kids running around and go off in there.

585
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:02.279
Yeah, I mean that's probably what.

586
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:04.640
I don't know how they'd not set off the alarm,

587
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:05.720
but there's got to be a way.

588
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.839
Yeah, I wonder if like there's like a the alarm

589
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:12.680
is like like if there's like a it's like picking

590
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.759
it up at a certain level, and kids are like

591
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.400
too low, so it's not catching it on cameras and

592
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:19.160
stuff like that. I don't know.

593
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.960
Man, Well, we're going to take a quick break and

594
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:24.680
when we get back, we're going to talk about an

595
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:29.599
Australian farmer that discovers something else green in his grocery

596
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:34.160
store salad bag that he wasn't quite expecting. Right after this,

597
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.680
and we are back with a little bit more spooky

598
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.880
news for you. This one's from Huffington Post and chill

599
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.599
you don't buy well, it says salad bag you don't

600
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:57.440
buy bag salads. But I think that that is just

601
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.720
that means rough greens because they call like anything that's

602
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:03.759
lettuce salad in the UK and Australia.

603
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:09.440
Okay, I mean yeah, So have you.

604
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:11.480
Ever found anything in like a bag of lettuce you

605
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:12.239
weren't expecting?

606
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:15.599
I don't normally get bags of lettuce?

607
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:18.000
What do you just get ahead of lettuce?

608
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:19.360
I don't really get lettuce.

609
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.239
Have you ever bought any greens?

610
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:28.039
Yes, of course I've had you know that, like I

611
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:31.079
have that there's bugs in the broccoli, but you've never

612
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:32.559
seen any bugs in I've.

613
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:34.199
Never seen a bug in broccoli, and I.

614
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:36.840
Don't understand what that means, because there's lots of bugs

615
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.119
in broccoli like all the time.

616
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.280
I've never seen that at all, and once a warm

617
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:47.079
oh god, ugh, more than I've legitimately never seen that.

618
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:51.880
I mean, I totally believe that you've never seen it.

619
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:53.760
I just don't quite understand.

620
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.079
But like you don't understand that my car insurance goes

621
00:34:58.119 --> 00:34:59.639
down every year instead of up.

622
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:03.159
Yeah, I know, I know your car insurance is magic.

623
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:03.760
I get it.

624
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.519
I mean it's not going down as aggressively as it

625
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:09.440
used to. If that helped makes you feel any.

626
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:10.679
Better, doesn't make me feel any better.

627
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:14.360
No, okay, okay, I'm sorry you have such a big

628
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:19.760
problem with Ohio exceptionalism. All right. So the headline reads

629
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:25.559
Ozzie Farmer discovers live frog in grocery store salad bag man.

630
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.199
That would be a fun thing to find.

631
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.559
And it's one of those cute little green frogs too,

632
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:33.320
like the light green like. It looks very much like

633
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:39.119
the like the greens in the bag ah Melbourne, Australia,

634
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.800
When Australian farmer Rice Smoker announced he that's a hell

635
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.400
of a name. A Re Smoker, that's a hell of

636
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.039
a name. Re Smoker announced he found a live frog

637
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.239
in a bag of lettuce. His housemates didn't believe him.

638
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:57.239
So Smoker had been preparing a steak in salad dinner

639
00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:59.599
on Saturday for the three people who share his house

640
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:03.480
and s Prince in Western Australia State, when he spotted

641
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:06.880
the frog among the leaves inside the sealed plastic bag

642
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:11.480
he bought from a supermarket. House housemate Laura Jones said

643
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:15.480
on Tuesday, quote, He's like, oh, bro, there's a frog

644
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:18.280
in the lettuce. And we're like, no, you're taking the

645
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:23.039
mick like that's not real. You're taking the mick like

646
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.679
that's not real, Jones told AP. Taking the mic is

647
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:31.039
a slang term for attempting to fool someone. Thank you,

648
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:35.400
Ap Smoker. Reese Smoker, what a name?

649
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:36.679
Gosh?

650
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:41.039
I want to be a private detective named Reese Smoker. Yeah.

651
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:45.000
Smoker brought the bag into the lounge room to show

652
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:48.920
Jones and her partner Billy Lapine. Obviously there's a little

653
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:51.159
frog hiding out and yeah, we all had a little

654
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:56.000
laugh about it, Jones said, Lapine said they named the

655
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:59.480
frog Greg before releasing it at a pond near the house.

656
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:02.320
That's notice, I don't know that that frog wants to

657
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:03.079
live in that pond.

658
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.039
I mean I probably would have gone on the internet

659
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.039
and figured out what kind of frog it was and

660
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:10.320
then decided what I needed to do with it because

661
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:12.039
it could be an invasive species.

662
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:14.679
Oh, then you would have just stomped on it.

663
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.079
No, then I would have. I would have talked to

664
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:20.079
it before releasing it and been like, listen, you can't

665
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:21.960
be invasive, and then I.

666
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:30.559
Would have let it go, like do you understand rabbit? Good? Oh?

667
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:36.159
Oh my gosh. Uh, let's see quote. We thought we'd

668
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.440
give him a wee send off tune as we played

669
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:43.760
crazy Frog for him, Lapline told Australian Broadcasting Corp. Crazy

670
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:47.960
Frog is a Swedish CGI animated character and eurodance musician.

671
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:50.679
Thank you, because I didn't know, ap.

672
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:55.760
No one did. Smoker and his partner Lily Ashby had

673
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:59.280
bought the lettuce at a Woolworth's market in Esperance. Uh

674
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:02.599
the same day Greg was discovered. Man, I forget that

675
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:06.599
Woolworth's is still like a big thing in some other places. Yeah,

676
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.400
we don't have. I don't think we have any Woolworts.

677
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:12.159
I think they're all gone. Yeah.

678
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.920
Five years ago, a shopper confronted a three meter long,

679
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.400
non venomous diamond python on a shelf of a Woolworf's

680
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:23.239
market in Sydney. Also in twenty twenty one, a shopper

681
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:26.800
discovered a venomous, pale headed snake wrapped in plastic with

682
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:29.519
lettuce and in all the Sydney supermarkets.

683
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:30.480
Wow.

684
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.800
I feel like this is just like like this should

685
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:38.159
be sponsored by like Ohio and it just says like,

686
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:43.760
don't go anywhere. Just stay home in Ohio. Just stay home. Yeah,

687
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.440
you're fine, it's fun. You like where you are. Don't

688
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.320
go to Australia, that's for sure. Woolworths said the frog

689
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.400
in the salad was an isolated incident. I mean it'd

690
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:55.440
be impressive, but they're like, oh, we put frogs in

691
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:59.679
every salad. Yeah, and there had been no other similar

692
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:03.400
case is reported. Quote. Our teams are investigating this with

693
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:07.159
our suppliers as a priority. A Woolsworth. A Woolworth's statement

694
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:11.920
said Woolworth's apologized to the household and provided a replacement bag.

695
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:14.840
Of lettuce just what you want more frogs?

696
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:17.719
Yeah, you just want more frogs in your lettuce, which

697
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.519
sounds like a really old old timey saying, mm. Yeah,

698
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.000
you just end up with more frogs in your lettuce.

699
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:31.320
Yeah what what you know the old saying, yeah, more

700
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:33.199
frogs in your lettuce. That's that's.

701
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:34.079
Yeah.

702
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:35.719
Yeah, if you go to the doctor, he's just gonna

703
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:37.199
say more frogs in your lettuce.

704
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.239
Yeah, exactly. It's like when you get that thing that

705
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.719
you wanted, but then there's something in that you didn't expect,

706
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.039
and then you go to get the thing again and

707
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.360
there's still more things that you didn't want in it.

708
00:39:51.880 --> 00:40:00.719
You just broke me. I'm sorry, you end up with

709
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:06.599
more frogs in your lettuce. That's we're making that as

710
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:10.239
saying everybody. The trick to making things of saying is

711
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:13.159
always attribute it to a family member, like like like

712
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.639
like my my great uncle always used to say, just

713
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.679
more frogs in your lettuce. Yeah, that's how you get

714
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:23.679
it to you get it to stick. We're gonna we're

715
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:25.639
gonna take a quick break and when we get back,

716
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:29.519
we're going to uh head to uh a plane flight

717
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:33.000
that UH had to take a U turn over a

718
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:38.559
strange bit of a technical issue. I can't. I'm still

719
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:41.440
thinking about more frogs in your lettuce, all right, right

720
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:53.960
after this shell? Yeah, you don't fly a ton, right,

721
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:55.440
I don't fly a ton either.

722
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:57.000
No, I don't fly a ton.

723
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:00.000
Do you have an airline you prefer though, No.

724
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.000
It's been so long that they all merged and closed

725
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:04.960
down and who knows what's going on.

726
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.480
You know, I'm bummed because I loved flying Jet Blue,

727
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:14.280
but I don't have a Jet Blue in my area.

728
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.599
I think the nearest Jet Blue is Indianapolis, so it's

729
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:18.199
two hours almost two hours away.

730
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:24.320
That's a drive to Indianapolis.

731
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:29.400
I don't hate idiot trip, yeah, but it's extra a

732
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:32.960
big bummer because my old my old boss, Mike, he

733
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:35.119
has he told me that if I ever want to

734
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:39.039
fly Jet Blue, just ask because he accrued such an

735
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:41.400
obscene amount of Jet Blue miles. He said that he

736
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:43.239
could never use them if he used them for the

737
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:46.239
rest of his life. Wow. But I was like, damn it,

738
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:49.400
because like when I lived in Jersey, we would fly

739
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:53.360
out of Jet Blue at jfk M and because they

740
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:56.960
had a Jet Blue terminal, and Philly has a Jet

741
00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:59.760
Blue terminal. But I think I believe the closest one

742
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:03.360
to me is Indianapolis, which extra stinks because if it

743
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:06.760
could have been Cincinnati, that's only like forty five minutes. Yeah,

744
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.079
you can kind of like you could get a buddy

745
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:11.400
to do that for you, you know, like you could

746
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:15.239
find somebody two hours each way. That's that's pretty far.

747
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:21.719
That's a bit. Yeah. So but anyway, this is from NPR,

748
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:28.719
your favorite Oh no, no pulse required radio. The headline

749
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:33.760
is United Airlines flight to Spain pulls U turn apparently

750
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:35.960
over Bluetooth device name.

751
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:37.800
Oh no.

752
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:43.000
Yeah. So we've all heard the jokes right about like

753
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:46.400
naming your naming your Wi Fi like you know, FBI

754
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:51.760
surveillance fan three and stuff. Haha, so funny or ones

755
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:54.400
that just say, like, you know, stop trying to steal

756
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:56.639
my Internet ned or whatever, you know, like.

757
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:57.000
You just.

758
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.960
I'm guessing if somebody had a funny had added a

759
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.760
funny name to a Bluetooth device or a Bluetooth advice

760
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:08.559
just had an odd out of context name.

761
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:10.280
Nice and that is it's a bomb.

762
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:14.760
It just says it's a bomb. Yeah, that's Oh, I'm curious.

763
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:18.079
I don't know exactly what it said. So let's see

764
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:21.599
let's dig in. A United Airlines flight Hey from New York,

765
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:27.000
New Jersey to Palma de Morocco, Spain, pulled a U

766
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:29.239
turn late Saturday over what appears to have been a

767
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:33.760
suspiciously named Bluetooth device on board. Flight tracking data shows

768
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:36.320
that the flight, which should have landed in Spain after

769
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:40.239
a nearly eight hour flight, instead returned to Newark after

770
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:42.559
four hours and twenty four minutes in the air.

771
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:43.800
That sucks.

772
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:48.119
United Airlines told nprvia email that the flight turned around

773
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:52.800
to quote address a potential security concern. Multiple posts on

774
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:56.679
social media from self identified passengers indicate that the problem

775
00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:59.840
was a Bluetooth device on board the plane. Several of

776
00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:02.679
the those passengers posted photos or video of them on

777
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:05.639
board the flight or in the airport with time stamps

778
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:08.760
that match the flight's actual schedule. So you think it

779
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:09.599
was bomb related?

780
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:10.679
Yeah?

781
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:18.760
Yeah, So I'm gonna say, hmm, maybe it was. Maybe

782
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:21.840
it comes off as like terrorism related, but I won't

783
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.159
count bomb as terrorism related, So.

784
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:27.199
Okay, so just some other terrorism.

785
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:31.159
I'm just trying to guess. So I hope it's not

786
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:35.199
anything stupid. Maybe now I'm worried it's going to be stupid.

787
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:36.800
I should have went with stupid. I should have made

788
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:38.360
my bet on stupid. Damn it.

789
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:39.679
You can change it.

790
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:42.880
I don't want to change it. Now. I made my bed,

791
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.440
and now I have to turn my flight around in it.

792
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:50.480
Some passengers knew little more than the flight attendants had

793
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:54.039
as knew little more than the flight attendants had asked

794
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:58.519
passengers to turn off their Bluetooth devices. One post referenced

795
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:02.280
in flight and nownouncements with quote lots of comments like

796
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.280
this little joke is ruining it for everyone. I think

797
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.119
it's gonna be stupid, and now I'm starting to think

798
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:12.920
it's gonna be stupid. Audio from air traffic control sheds

799
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.280
a little more light on the situation. One voice on

800
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.960
the recording asked what had happened with the flight, which

801
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:21.960
had recently landed back at Newark and remained on the tarmac. Wait.

802
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.639
Air traffic control was like, they must have meant, like,

803
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:27.119
why did we I'm assuming that they were told the

804
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.000
plane was coming back and they like set them up

805
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:30.480
to land and then went so why did you have

806
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:32.599
to do that? Because it'd be really word They're like, hey,

807
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:34.800
what are you guys doing here? It's like it's like

808
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.599
your air traffic control. How did you land without talking

809
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:37.880
to us?

810
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.599
What I'll tell you about it after this?

811
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:47.320
Okay, yeah, there's a quote. There's a security detail out there.

812
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.639
Someone had a Bluetooth speaker and they named it a

813
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:55.679
four letter word. Another voice responded, so they have to

814
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.960
inspect the whole aircraft, including the cargo area, and passengers

815
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:06.239
have to evacuate. That's crazy, The first voice replied, four

816
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:09.360
letter word in this case doesn't oh okay, okay doesn't

817
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:12.320
appear to refer to a curse word, but rather a

818
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:18.400
different four letter word that triggered airline security procedures. Oh okay.

819
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:21.039
I got scared for a second that they were mad

820
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:22.360
about like a swear word.

821
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.920
Yeah yeah, yeah.

822
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:30.639
Quote. There is an active Bluetooth network labeled bomb. Okay,

823
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:36.039
tell on, tell on this one, one self identified passenger

824
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:39.119
wrote on TikTok she shared a video of herself drinking

825
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:43.079
sangria geotag to Paul Ma de Morocca after the flight

826
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:47.199
finally arrived. Another reddit's post of someone who claimed to

827
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:49.559
be the spouse of a passenger similarly reported that the

828
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:53.000
word in question was bomb and that the device was

829
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:57.760
a teenager speaker. I could kind of see naming a

830
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:01.559
speaker bomb or a speaker being called bomb, you know,

831
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:06.480
because it's loud or whatever. The flight eventually reboarded and

832
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:12.119
landed in Palma de Morocco, Morocco, Mayoco. I'm having trouble

833
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:15.559
with myoko at three forty seven pm local time on Sunday,

834
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:20.239
about nine and a half hours late. So do you

835
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.000
think that the kid named it that or that that

836
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:23.000
was what it was named?

837
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:28.159
I think the kid named it that. Yeah, yeah, but

838
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.840
like I don't know if it was if they named

839
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:34.280
it that like before and then didn't think about it,

840
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.119
or if they thought they were being funny.

841
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.320
I just found a portable speaker named bomb from t tech.

842
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.400
Okay, maybe it was just and it looks.

843
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.000
Like a bomb, but like a cartoon bomb.

844
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:50.360
Yeah, maybe it was just called that. Look look yeah, yeah,

845
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:51.000
there you go.

846
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.719
It looks like a little like a cartoon bomb. You know,

847
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:58.320
it's like black circule circle. I'm wondering if that's what

848
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:02.480
the kid had it's squite. I guess it would be.

849
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:04.159
It could be possible that there would be a bomb

850
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.760
that would be like triggered with bluetooth like to you know, explode,

851
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.000
and that's why they got freaked out.

852
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:11.679
Mm hmm yeah, and they just they were like, ah,

853
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:13.719
we don't have to change the name. It's easier this way,

854
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:14.880
so we know which one it is.

855
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:17.639
I mean, I think the bigger faux pas is that

856
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:21.840
you even had your bluetooth speaker powered on on a flight.

857
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.320
What are you gonna use it for? You? You need

858
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:28.079
to keep your shit to yourself. You are not sharing

859
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:30.800
this unless you're playing this podcast. You could play this

860
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.440
over a Bluetooth speaker on an airplane. I'm giving you permission,

861
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:44.159
but not legal permission, just moral permission. But but that's

862
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:46.159
that's tough. I don't know. Do you think that that

863
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:49.239
was a a not the not a wise move the

864
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:50.719
the bluetooth speaker, But do you think it was a

865
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:53.199
wise move to turn the plane around because there was

866
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:54.800
a Bluetooth thingy that said bomb?

867
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:59.440
I think you basically just gotta just in cases. But

868
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.440
I'm sure all the passengers except for that one kid

869
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:04.320
pissed the fuck off of that kid.

870
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:08.039
Oh god, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, see I would have

871
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:09.760
if it were me, I would have been like, please

872
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:11.400
just take us to my ORCA. I don't want to

873
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:13.119
die in New Jersey. I don't know how many times.

874
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:16.079
I have to say it over and over. Don't let

875
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:20.440
me die in New Jersey. I'm not going to die today,

876
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:26.880
not in New Jersey, but damn. Yeah. I was really

877
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:28.719
worried that it was gonna be something stupid. When it

878
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:30.960
said four letter word, I was like, oh gosh, don't

879
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:32.880
tell me they like did it because of a swear word?

880
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:36.159
Now bomb, yep, that's four letter word. Yeah, so before

881
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:37.760
we take a break, you were going to say something.

882
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:41.039
Yeah, a couple of months ago, I don't know, did

883
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:44.159
you hear about the plane that like it's landing gear,

884
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:48.159
like came down on the highway near Newark and like

885
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:48.920
hit a truck.

886
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:51.840
I think I did hear about that.

887
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:54.639
Yeah, I don't know. I just didn't know what you

888
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:55.280
heard about.

889
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.079
Oh, Newark Airport. I only had to fly out of

890
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.800
you once and it was that was enough.

891
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:05.239
It's scary, though, because if you take the turnpike right there,

892
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.800
the planes look so low and we're always afraid that

893
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:09.079
one of them is going to hit us. And then

894
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:10.800
it hit one really did hit a truck.

895
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.880
Yeah, I'm glad I don't live so close to write

896
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:19.760
Patterson Air Force Base that I feel like the planes

897
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:23.800
are dangerously close. Although there are times because there are

898
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:26.559
always like military transports like all the time over me

899
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:29.599
where you'll see one and be like, is that a

900
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:33.119
really really really big one or is it really low?

901
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:35.599
Yeah?

902
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:37.519
And the best part is you never get to find out.

903
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:38.760
Yeah.

904
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:41.119
I mean, actually that is the best part because that

905
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:45.360
means they didn't, like, you know, crash or something. Yeah, yeah, hooray.

906
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:47.760
Although apparently there's an app you can pull up to

907
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:51.119
like find out what airplanes are flying over you. But

908
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:54.880
I'm not an air force nerd or an air airplane nerd,

909
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:55.840
so I don't do that.

910
00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:59.880
Yeah, my sister is one of her ex boyfriends used

911
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:03.280
to do that. I mean he he was becoming a pilot,

912
00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:05.159
so I think that was okay.

913
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:09.440
But yeah, and she was like too successful for me.

914
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:11.880
I need, I need, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta

915
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:13.719
become like a dirt farmer. So I don't know why

916
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:21.320
I said dirt farmer really exactly. Well, we're gonna take

917
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:24.559
a quick break and uh and uh, give you guys

918
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:28.320
a chance to charge your bomb portable bluetooth speaker. I

919
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:29.800
kind of want to buy one now.

920
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:31.920
Yeah, just don't take it on a plane with.

921
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:34.280
It on I mean, why would I want a portable

922
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:38.440
speaker on an airplane anyway, But we're gonna take a

923
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:40.760
quick break and when we get back, we're gonna talk

924
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:46.199
about a an escaped wild animal in Texas that apparently

925
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:53.760
no one can find. No, sadly, I think that's New York. Well,

926
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:56.360
good job, you keep teasing it though. That's good. It's

927
00:51:56.360 --> 00:52:10.960
gonna keep people around. Yeah, listen to these ads, all right, shell,

928
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:16.360
I have a question for you, really, yes, So if

929
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:22.800
you like, if if a zoo animal escaped you're shaking

930
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:26.480
your head already, Yeah, it's like, no, if a zoo

931
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:29.400
animal escaped, what zoo animal do you think would be

932
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:33.719
the hardest to find, like like as far as like

933
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:42.639
uh in Texas.

934
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:40.599
Like some sort of exotic gecko.

935
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.559
Okay, because they're small and they can kind of blend

936
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:48.519
in and they're used to the heat. Sure, yeah, okay,

937
00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:52.519
And what do you imagine would be the hardest to find?

938
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:54.800
I thought that's what we were doing.

939
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:58.079
Okay, fine, I'll just I'll just jump.

940
00:52:57.800 --> 00:52:59.880
In the hardest to find or.

941
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:01.519
Sorry, the hardest to lose?

942
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:05.000
Sorry, Oh, like a like a like a giraffe.

943
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:11.440
Maybe nan Chel's been on a winning street today Huffington

944
00:53:11.519 --> 00:53:15.440
Post escaped giraffe named Gracie on the loose in Texas

945
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:17.639
and no one can find her?

946
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:18.679
Why not?

947
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.599
That was my when I saw this headline. That was

948
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:31.079
my response to how can you not find it? A

949
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:34.559
giraffe named Gracie is missing in Texas and the search

950
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:41.400
for her has become a tall order. Gracie, who was

951
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:44.679
about three years old, has been missing for nearly two

952
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:48.719
weeks after escaping her enclosure at the Cedar Hollow Ranch

953
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:52.480
in the Texas Hill count Country, said Vic Jones, who

954
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:55.519
owns the remote property about one hundred miles west of

955
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:59.159
San Antonio. He said Wednesday that Gracie had wandered into

956
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:02.280
a part of the private Leonned preserve that other giraffes

957
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:07.719
previously avoided. Ooh, do you think it was like haunted

958
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:09.719
or something like? The girafts were like, we don't want to.

959
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:12.199
Mess with that, I assume, So why else would they

960
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:13.519
not want to go somewhere?

961
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:15.920
What do you think scares giraffes? Do you think like

962
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:18.719
they see visions of like giraffes but with regular necks,

963
00:54:18.719 --> 00:54:21.000
and it just like chills them to the bone. They're like,

964
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:22.519
never mind, don't want to be over there.

965
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:26.159
That would probably do it. Honestly, that would be terrifying.

966
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:28.920
I feel like it would scare me to see a

967
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:30.480
giraffe with a regular length of neck.

968
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:31.280
Yeah.

969
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:36.480
Do you You had that apartment in West Philly mm

970
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:39.719
hm that had the window in the in the bathroom

971
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:41.639
that was like really really really high up.

972
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:42.599
Yeah.

973
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:44.639
And I remember the first time I ever took a

974
00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:46.519
shower there, I looked up and I just imagined that

975
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:50.199
giraffes had popping and it's so it just seemed bizarrely

976
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:50.840
high up.

977
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:53.599
I thought it was perfectly high up.

978
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:57.119
Oh. I mean I actually really liked that apartment, but

979
00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:00.000
good apartment. Yeah, but it just it just seemed funny

980
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:02.280
how tall the ceiling was, and then that there was

981
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:04.119
a window all the way up there. And it makes

982
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:06.400
sense though, because it let the you know, the uh

983
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:10.079
I was gonna say vapor, which is correct, the steam.

984
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.440
It would let the steam out and stuff. But I

985
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:16.280
just remember, I always imagine, like, hello, just a giraffe.

986
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:21.079
But it is it is weird that they can't find

987
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:21.800
the giraffe.

988
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:23.559
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of weird.

989
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:24.800
They're pretty big.

990
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:26.639
Yeah.

991
00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:30.159
Jones said he has sent up helicopters to look for Gracie.

992
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:33.199
A few sightings have trickled in and a five thousand

993
00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:36.800
dollars reward is on the table. I feel like you

994
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.440
should raise that reward to save face, because the longer

995
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:41.840
you're the guy who can't find a giraffe in Texas,

996
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:43.039
the worse it looks for you.

997
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:44.239
Yeah.

998
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.719
I appreciate that this is from a preserve and not

999
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:49.719
like a zoo or something like that. It's a place

1000
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:55.880
where they're supposed to be healthy and happy, but still lost.

1001
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:58.519
The giraffe, I don't know, have all the all the

1002
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:02.360
like animals. Just I feel like giraffe and elephant, you're

1003
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:03.239
not gonna lose those.

1004
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:06.760
Yeah, yeah, you think so, but I guess not. Maybe

1005
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:09.039
it's hiding in a forest somewhere with lots of trees

1006
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:10.440
so they can't find it.

1007
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:13.400
Yeah, until it eats. It eats its way through enough

1008
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:15.760
that you can spot it, you know, like, hey, there

1009
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:19.719
it is. Man. You gotta put an air tag on

1010
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:24.199
your giraffes collar, you know, you gotta. But the giraffe,

1011
00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:28.840
which stands roughly the height of a tree, hasn't turned up. Quote.

1012
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:31.079
She wound up going up and feeding in an area

1013
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:33.280
on the hillside and the rocky ledges that none of

1014
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:36.800
the other drafts giraffes had ever gone on before, Joan said,

1015
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.239
And when she came down off of there, she came

1016
00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:41.639
down on the wrong side of the gate. Ah, poor

1017
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:46.679
giraffe or the giraffe was like, I'm gonna get my

1018
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:49.280
music career started. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't

1019
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:51.559
want to do what my parents did and just eat

1020
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:56.119
eat leaves off of branches. I would to be like

1021
00:56:56.159 --> 00:57:01.360
my cousin he worked at Toys r US. The ranch

1022
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:05.280
is in rural Real County where it's roughly I don't

1023
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:06.960
know if I believe that the county is real now,

1024
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:08.840
because it's called Real County.

1025
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:12.280
I don't and it's spelled real r e L. Wow. Yeah,

1026
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:13.239
I don't believe it either.

1027
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:17.039
Yeah, where it's roughly two thousand, seven hundred residents were

1028
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:19.800
put on alert to be on the lookout for a

1029
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:24.760
missing giraffe. I if I got that alert, I'd be

1030
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:28.559
like what, Yeah, yeah, Granton, I live in the suburbs,

1031
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:31.239
so that's extra weird. But like I guess, if you

1032
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:33.320
live in a town that small, everybody who knows about

1033
00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:34.119
the guy who keeps.

1034
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:37.119
Giraffes mm hmm yeah. Yeah, so it's like, oh no,

1035
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:38.559
when of the drafts got out again.

1036
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:41.239
The worst thing would have been if the diraff had

1037
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:43.519
escaped on April first. So they put out the alert

1038
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:45.480
like be on the lookout for an escaped giraffe, and

1039
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:49.079
they'd be like right, okay, and then they would just

1040
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:51.159
be like in their front yard watching a giraffe like

1041
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:53.239
break their car, like stepping on it, and be like

1042
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:56.159
whatever you say, you just go back inside.

1043
00:57:56.719 --> 00:57:58.360
Yeah.

1044
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.360
Jones said the search area is extremely remote and the

1045
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:05.920
likelihood of Gracie encountering any humans is low. Quote, people

1046
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:08.719
are not in danger of her because she's not around people.

1047
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:13.000
Joan said, She's out in very, very rough, heavily wooded lands.

1048
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:15.840
Are giraffes usually dangerous to people?

1049
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:19.320
I didn't think so, but maybe they are really big

1050
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:22.559
and there things are dangerous to people in general.

1051
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:30.840
Are giraffes dangerous to people? Girafts are not naturally aggressive

1052
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:33.719
or predatory to humans, but they are incredibly large wild

1053
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:35.880
animals that can cause serious or fatal harm if they

1054
00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:36.639
feel threatened.

1055
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:38.599
Is that an AI summary?

1056
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:42.280
Yeah, So what it means is they eat us. Yeah,

1057
00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:48.039
it actually means The Texas Hill Country has one of

1058
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:51.679
the largest concentrations of exotic captive animals in the county country.

1059
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:55.519
Real County Sheriff Nathan Johnson said the mild climate and

1060
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:57.920
rugged terrain seems to serve as a good stand and

1061
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:03.519
for most of the animal's native environments. He rattled off

1062
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:05.760
the list of animals that have gone missing over the years,

1063
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:10.239
especially after floods, but said this was his first giraffe.

1064
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:11.639
Yeah.

1065
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:15.199
I feel like you'd remember, you know. Yeah. Quote, I've

1066
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:18.239
had willed to beasts, I've had water buffalo, I've had monkeys,

1067
00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:22.239
I've had zebras, all go missing. Johnson said, sometimes we

1068
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:27.000
recover them and sometimes we don't. Geese, while the middle

1069
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:30.440
of Texas is not a giraffe's native environment, Jones said

1070
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:32.840
Gracie should be able to find plenty of leaves and

1071
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:35.920
other vegetation to eat. He said other animals were not

1072
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:40.039
likely to bother her. I think that's very fair. Just

1073
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:42.239
a warthog sees that. It's like, never mind, I'm going

1074
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:45.280
to go over here now. Yeah. Joanes said he had

1075
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:49.119
initially had helicopters searching an area of seventy seven five

1076
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.320
hundred acres with no luck. A few days later, there

1077
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:54.519
was a report that Gracie was spotted to the south,

1078
00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:57.519
but by the time they could search the area, Jones said,

1079
00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:00.920
she was already gone. Quote, we're all always two three

1080
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:03.480
days late for where the information is coming from, so

1081
01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:05.960
that makes it tough, Joan said.

1082
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:08.360
Get faster information, I don't understand.

1083
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:09.760
Yeah, and a faster helicopter.

1084
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:13.400
Yeah, it takes two to three days to get everything mobilized.

1085
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:15.039
What's going on, guys?

1086
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:18.760
Oh, by the way, the real county sheriff has a

1087
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:22.480
handlebar mustache, so rock on, sir, yay, he looks like

1088
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:26.599
an old timey sheriff. Wow, a little bit, I mean,

1089
01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:30.679
not like comically, but well, I hope Gracie the giraffe

1090
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:34.719
has found well me too. This article is only a

1091
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:36.840
day old of when we're reading it, so it's like

1092
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:42.639
this just happened. Animal stuff. Man, there's always something weird

1093
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:43.679
happening with animals.

1094
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:45.960
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that they should let

1095
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:48.760
her be outside in grace and not take her back.

1096
01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:53.079
But you know, I think that everybody's just in denial

1097
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:55.480
of the fact that she's obviously heading to Austin, like

1098
01:00:55.639 --> 01:01:02.400
everybody else seems to be. Everyone's moving to Austin. Yeah,

1099
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:04.719
we're gonna take a quick break and when we get back,

1100
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.440
I'm going to talk about a brand new sourdough bread recipe,

1101
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:26.159
oh right after this. So apparently it's possible Chell already

1102
01:01:26.239 --> 01:01:33.440
heard about this new sourdough bread. Did did? Did? Did

1103
01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:34.159
you hear about this?

1104
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:36.159
I think so?

1105
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.920
But maybe how many? How many news articles are you

1106
01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:42.239
getting about sourdough bread in your in your day to day?

1107
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:43.599
Like a lot of them?

1108
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:47.519
Yeah? And I want I want in your algorithm.

1109
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:50.480
Yeah, that's just what I get. Sourdough bread rests.

1110
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:55.639
Well. This is from the Guardian. The headline is and

1111
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.039
this is one that definitely gave me pause. Scientists make

1112
01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:03.199
sourdough bread using yeast found in a five thousand year

1113
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:07.119
old mummy. Yeah was this what you heard about?

1114
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:07.800
I think so?

1115
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:09.119
Yeah, Yeah you think so?

1116
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:12.559
It could have been Yeah, it could have been anything.

1117
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:16.679
There's a lot of mummies. I don't know. Scientists have

1118
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:20.480
baked a sour dough loaf of bread using yeast strains

1119
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:24.000
harvested from a five thousand year old mummy and now

1120
01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:26.119
planned to see if they can use them to brew

1121
01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:30.440
beer too. That's where I I mean, where would you

1122
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:31.400
head with it? You know?

1123
01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:35.079
I mean, like, I don't really like beer, so probably

1124
01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:40.039
not there, but yeah, totally go for it, guys.

1125
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:47.360
Sure, if ever there was a true manifestation of doctor

1126
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:50.679
Malcolm from Jurassic Park, everybody was so busy wondering if

1127
01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:52.599
they could they never stopped to wonder if they should

1128
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.280
exactly kind of what's going on here?

1129
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:57.119
Yeah?

1130
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.599
Now, but the real question is would you eat the

1131
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:04.280
sour dough bread? Would you have a bite?

1132
01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:08.199
Sure? Okay, yeah, it's just yeast.

1133
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:10.880
Little butter or like on it? Or what are you thinking?

1134
01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:13.199
Well? I mean definitely some butter on it.

1135
01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:14.719
Butter or margarine.

1136
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:18.960
I mean I prefer butter if possible, but margarine. Maybe

1137
01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:22.000
since this is really special, maybe I could have some

1138
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.039
like jam on it too, on the butter.

1139
01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:31.320
Yeah, like jam made from like like ancient monster.

1140
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:35.199
I mean maybe not an ancient monster, but some sort

1141
01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:36.760
of ancient creature. Definitely.

1142
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:40.559
Okay, okay, all right, see you're adventurous.

1143
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:41.599
Yeah.

1144
01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:45.559
The yeast came from Atzi the Iceman, a famous corpse

1145
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:49.559
remarkably preserved by being frozen in alpine ice near the

1146
01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:54.079
Italy Austria border until he was discovered in nineteen ninety one.

1147
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:57.280
I don't know why I mean, he's been there for

1148
01:03:57.320 --> 01:03:59.760
thousands of years, five thousand years. But the idea that

1149
01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:02.199
they discovered him in nineteen ninety one and just now

1150
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:04.519
made bread from the youth makes makes it weirder to me.

1151
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:08.239
I'm like, I'm like, oh man, it's old. Yeah, it's

1152
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:09.679
really old, but it feels old.

1153
01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:12.519
Yeah, Like that's weird, guys.

1154
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:15.880
It's a little strange. Yeah, that's the only part of

1155
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:20.800
this that's strange. Asi has been the subject of intense

1156
01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:23.639
study since he was found, and has shed much light

1157
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:28.880
on prehistoric European people and their way of life. Oh

1158
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:33.599
I'm I'm really curious why this happened at all and

1159
01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:35.239
why it was anybody's idea.

1160
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:36.079
I don't know.

1161
01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:44.639
So scientists have been recently studying the micro organisms preserved

1162
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:48.480
in and on Azi's remains or Utsi's sorry, Utzi's there's

1163
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:52.960
an umlat utzis. One unexpected result of that work was

1164
01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:56.280
the researchers extracted yeast and then used it to make

1165
01:04:56.360 --> 01:05:02.000
sour dough bread. Unexpected result like did they accidentally make

1166
01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:04.639
sourdough bread? Like what they were?

1167
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:06.960
Just like we have all this flour and all the

1168
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:09.920
ingredients for sourdo bit bread, just sitting here, and then

1169
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:11.719
all of a sudden, the yeast just got it and

1170
01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:14.000
they were like, oh no, and then they like mixed

1171
01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:15.880
it up trying to get the yeast down. Then they're like, wait,

1172
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:17.159
is this gonna be bread? Now?

1173
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:20.480
Well, we may as well see what happens.

1174
01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:21.199
Put it in the oven.

1175
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:26.559
Yeah, we're all losing our grants. Yeah. Are you a

1176
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:27.679
sour dough bread person?

1177
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:29.400
I like sourdough b read. Yeah.

1178
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:30.320
What's your favorite bread?

1179
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:32.079
I have a favorite bread.

1180
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:36.760
Really? Yeah, you said that so sadly, like you're not

1181
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:37.639
allowed to have one.

1182
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:39.079
Yeah, I don't know.

1183
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:44.000
The guy told me no, yeah, the bread guy.

1184
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:47.199
Yeah, yeah, cord order something.

1185
01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:53.000
Quote. Eventually we obtained a completely normal dough that rose

1186
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:57.039
within twenty four hours, basically just like with ordinary yeast.

1187
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:00.880
We made some really good dough with it. Why you

1188
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:05.920
made it weird? Microbiologist Mohammad Sarhan, who had said that

1189
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:09.880
in a statement on the website Iraq Research, where he

1190
01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:11.960
works for the Institute for Mummy Studies.

1191
01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:16.159
They were probably really pleased that you made bread, So

1192
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:19.320
you were trying so hard to like eventually come up

1193
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:20.440
with the bread recipe.

1194
01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:24.599
That word yeah, quote, I've never baked bread before and

1195
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:28.079
it showed so the result definitely had room for improvement.

1196
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:32.400
But as I said there, these were our very first experiments.

1197
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:37.360
Sarhan added, now homemade beer could also be on the menu,

1198
01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:41.960
because why wouldn't it be. I guess quote, we want

1199
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:46.119
to pursue this further and involve specialized research teams from

1200
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:49.000
the food sector in the process. Bread is currently one

1201
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:52.360
of the obvious applications we're considering. Another is beer. We've

1202
01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:56.599
already discussed this with experts from the German brewer Vayan Stefan.

1203
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.519
He said, Okay, what I don't understand is what is

1204
01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:06.480
the Like, is there a reason that this should be done?

1205
01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:09.519
I don't think so. Like, it's not like we don't

1206
01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:11.880
have yeast. It's not like we're ever gonna like run

1207
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:16.639
out of yeast and like, so I don't really understand why,

1208
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:19.679
except that they could do it. And I wish I

1209
01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:22.559
could just get paid to just make bread out of

1210
01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:24.639
yeast from old things.

1211
01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:27.880
I mean, I guess that the idea is like that

1212
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:30.320
it might help them understand what yeast was like a

1213
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:35.079
long time ago. I guess I'm just saying.

1214
01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:38.119
I mean, like, couldn't you just look at the yeast

1215
01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:40.519
and study it and see how it compares to the

1216
01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:43.880
yeast that you know in the present, and then that

1217
01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:44.519
would be good.

1218
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:48.639
Yeah. Yeah, But then I guess, you know, chuckleheads like

1219
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:49.960
us wouldn't be talking about it.

1220
01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:51.159
That's true.

1221
01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:57.039
The harvested yeast are harvested yeasts only live in cold conditions,

1222
01:07:57.239 --> 01:08:00.280
so are believed to have entered Outsi's body at some

1223
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:03.920
point after he died. Genetic analysis suggested they entered his

1224
01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:10.079
body relatively soon after death, So this is interesting. Ootsi

1225
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:13.920
has long been the focus of fascination. His body preserves

1226
01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:17.800
the oldest tattoos ever discovered, with a total of sixty

1227
01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:18.960
one markings.

1228
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:19.720
Cool.

1229
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:24.159
There is also huge interest in how he died high

1230
01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:27.000
up in the mountains in an icy wilderness about five

1231
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:30.359
three hundred years ago, because he appears to have been

1232
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:35.079
shot in the back by an arrow in what is

1233
01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:40.600
often described as one of the world's oldest cold case murders. Wow,

1234
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:44.119
hot cold case. He was frozen.

1235
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:47.279
Yeah.

1236
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:49.680
The fact that they're like, we now, can we make beer?

1237
01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:52.800
We're talking to the I guess the excitement I think

1238
01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:56.439
I'm trying to like put myself in this. I think

1239
01:08:56.479 --> 01:09:00.640
the excitement comes from just the idea that it's actually

1240
01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:04.600
yeast from five thousand years ago. So just the fact

1241
01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:08.119
that it can do things yeast does is very exciting.

1242
01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:12.399
I mean, that's what I'm guessing. The point is, I guess.

1243
01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:15.279
So, I mean, the thing is it's only yeast from

1244
01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:17.359
five thousand years ago for like a little while, and

1245
01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:21.640
then it's not anymore because probably gets more yeast than

1246
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:24.640
things and it dies and it has little babies. I

1247
01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:25.720
don't know how yeast works.

1248
01:09:27.199 --> 01:09:32.079
I'm not hugely familiar with yeast myself, but I just

1249
01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:33.960
think it's faster. Like, we're really excited. We talked to

1250
01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:39.800
a brewery about making beer from it. I'm like, cool, yeah, thanks, sure, guys, Yeah, yeah,

1251
01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:41.199
you're gonna talk about.

1252
01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:42.880
This in like a couple hundred years and be like

1253
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:47.239
people are really weird then. And the dead body. Yeah,

1254
01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:48.920
I mean bread whatever.

1255
01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:52.039
I'm glad we're all ai now anyway.

1256
01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:53.560
Yeah, we don't do stuff like that.

1257
01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:58.439
Ah, the Singularity. We're gonna take a quick break, and

1258
01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:01.880
when we come back, we're going to talk about photos

1259
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:15.119
that reveal strange sea creatures right after this. All right,

1260
01:10:15.319 --> 01:10:21.199
So we're heading now deep under the ocean, and I

1261
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:23.079
don't feel like I have a lot of knowledge of

1262
01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:26.600
your feelings on deep sea life.

1263
01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:32.199
Shell it's usually very cute. That's that's what I got.

1264
01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:34.640
You don't think they get kind of weird when you

1265
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:36.039
get really deep in the ocean.

1266
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:40.319
They're so cute though, and they have like lots of

1267
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:41.479
teeth and.

1268
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:49.600
They but that's just the more to smile at you, exactly.

1269
01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:53.840
And the day can't see because it's so dark, so

1270
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:54.920
they glow.

1271
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:56.800
And stuff, and the or they just don't have eyes

1272
01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:58.199
because they're like why bother.

1273
01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:02.680
Exactly or something. And they're just super cool. And they

1274
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:04.920
can live with lots and lots of pressure, which is

1275
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:05.560
pretty cool.

1276
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:08.319
I mean, so can I. But nobody's ever going, wow,

1277
01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:09.960
you live under so much pressure?

1278
01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:13.000
Fine, wow, you live under so much pressure.

1279
01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:15.000
Thank you.

1280
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:18.720
Of course I recognize you. I know what's happening.

1281
01:11:19.399 --> 01:11:26.319
Oh you're too nice. Well this is from vox dot

1282
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:30.560
com and the headline is photos reveal strange sea creatures

1283
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:32.920
that scientists had never seen before.

1284
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:35.439
Yeah, they're down.

1285
01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:39.960
And scientists say they found more than one thoy one

1286
01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:44.159
hundred new marine species over the last year, emphasizing how

1287
01:11:44.279 --> 01:11:49.520
unexplored the ocean really is. Yeah, have you heard about uh?

1288
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:53.439
I think it's Peter Teel, the billionaire investor. He's going

1289
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:56.359
like super all in on. I heard this somewhere, as

1290
01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:58.560
I haven't fact checked it or anything, that he's like

1291
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:00.720
going all in on data center is being built in

1292
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:01.239
the ocean.

1293
01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:02.920
I did not hear that.

1294
01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:05.760
No, that's I heard that. It could have been a

1295
01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:07.880
rumor or it could be real. It sounds like something

1296
01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:10.359
that you know they would try. But that way they

1297
01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:12.800
can use the natural like cooling of the ocean and

1298
01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:15.079
blah blah blah blah blah.

1299
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:17.000
I don't know if that's gonna work.

1300
01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:20.319
But well, I mean, I mean it's it's just a

1301
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:22.640
thought because they're already like workers in the ocean and

1302
01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:25.159
they build stuff in the ocean already, So it's not

1303
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:27.359
like it's impossible as long as you can get you know,

1304
01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:30.520
good data infrastructure and you've got those underground.

1305
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:32.640
I mean, you've got those underwater cables with all the

1306
01:12:32.680 --> 01:12:34.560
Internet and so I guess you can just kind.

1307
01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:38.640
Of yeah, so it definitely seems, you know, more reachable

1308
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:41.000
than putting them in space at least anytime soon.

1309
01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:43.279
Yes, that's true.

1310
01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:49.239
So yeah, but the ocean is is a vast and

1311
01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:53.359
strange place. Shelle I'm gonna show you my screen so

1312
01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:56.680
you can see some of these creatures. You probably think

1313
01:12:56.680 --> 01:12:57.439
that's cute fish.

1314
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:01.760
I want to see more of him, like a like

1315
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:03.079
a front view of him.

1316
01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:05.479
Well I don't. I don't think that that's an option.

1317
01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:09.439
Well, then I don't know for sure if he's cute. Wow,

1318
01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:10.680
I think he's cute.

1319
01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:13.039
I had a feeling you might. Ah.

1320
01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:14.640
So uh.

1321
01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:18.239
It lives in a glass castle deep under the sea.

1322
01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:20.840
It's not a character from The Little Mermaid, but a

1323
01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:25.600
very real, very mysterious marine worm known as a dal

1324
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:30.960
husiela yabuki. The worm resides inside a glass sea sponge,

1325
01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:34.399
a simple marine animal that forms a glass like skeleton

1326
01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:36.760
in the cold, dark waters off the coast of Japan.

1327
01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:40.159
And it's just one of a massive trove of marine

1328
01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:45.800
animal species that scientists say they recently discovered. What do

1329
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:47.199
you think is that cute or not cute?

1330
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:49.800
It's kind of cute. It kind of looks like a

1331
01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:53.760
little bit like like a like a centipede or something. Yeah,

1332
01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:59.359
little things coming out of it. Yeah, red and stuff.

1333
01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:02.520
And it's sort of Japanese, which makes you happy.

1334
01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:04.920
Yeah.

1335
01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:07.479
This week, the Ocean Census, a project that is set

1336
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:10.479
out to accelerate the discovery of sea life, announced that

1337
01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:15.520
it had found one twenty one previously unknown ocean species

1338
01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:19.279
since last April. That marks a massive jump in and

1339
01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:22.600
the number of newly discovered marine species in a single year,

1340
01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:26.159
according to Oliver Steed's, director of the Ocean Census, a

1341
01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:29.359
joint mission of the UK based nonprofit Nectin in Japan's

1342
01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:33.880
largest philanthropic organization, the Nipon Foundation. Some of the other

1343
01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:39.119
newly found creatures include fish, rays, sponges, and soft corals.

1344
01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:44.000
Though it may seem that Earth is already largely explored,

1345
01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:47.840
the vast majority of animal species on Earth, perhaps as

1346
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:53.560
many as ninety percent of them remain undiscovered. Ninety percent

1347
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:55.960
sounds a little high, but I could be it could

1348
01:14:56.279 --> 01:14:58.359
I could go either way. It could be true.

1349
01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:02.680
I think I think it's true. There's just but there's

1350
01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:03.520
a lot of water.

1351
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:08.520
That's true. I mean the ocean, especially the deeper you get,

1352
01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:12.920
it's just impossible to see it all. I mean, eventually, yeah,

1353
01:15:12.960 --> 01:15:17.600
maybe quote this is really a planetary blind spot, said

1354
01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:20.520
Steve's who also who's also the founder and chief executive

1355
01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:23.920
of Nectin. The Ocean Census, which launched three years ago,

1356
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:26.399
is trying to close the gap in the marine realm

1357
01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:29.600
by exploring remote ocean regions with the help of high

1358
01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:33.840
tech submersibles and taxonomists, and to that end, this large

1359
01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:37.800
batch of species is an important step forward with one

1360
01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:41.600
large caveat. While the search for life beyond what was it? What?

1361
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:44.720
Oh? What's the large Well.

1362
01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:45.560
Now I'm not going to tell you.

1363
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:46.560
Oh damn.

1364
01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:51.279
Yeah. Patience is a virtue, while the search for life

1365
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:55.319
beyond Earth has been a magnetic, a magnet for public attention.

1366
01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:58.399
Missions like the Ocean Census reveal that there is a

1367
01:15:58.399 --> 01:16:00.840
lot we still don't know about life on our home planet,

1368
01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:05.840
much of which looks pretty darn alien. Ooh yeah, Chell's

1369
01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:09.399
looking at the small ribbon worm. Most critters that the

1370
01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:14.279
expeditions revealed are pretty small, like this striking ribbon worm shell.

1371
01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:16.880
You would agree, you'd call that ribbon worm striking, right.

1372
01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:20.199
I think it's pretty striking. I can't tell what's going

1373
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:20.720
on with his.

1374
01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:23.520
Head, yeah, or which one is its head?

1375
01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:27.239
I think the one with the thing is its head.

1376
01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:28.960
Yeah, but it might not be. You don't know.

1377
01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:30.039
Yeah, it's true.

1378
01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:34.720
Found in the waters near timor Leste in Southeast Asia.

1379
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:37.520
The worm's bright colors may be a signal to predators

1380
01:16:37.520 --> 01:16:41.039
that it produces defensive toxins. According to a press release

1381
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:44.560
announcing the new findings, such toxins may be useful in

1382
01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:49.119
drug development. Scientists have previously investigated chemicals produced by similar

1383
01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:53.079
worms to treat cognitive disorders such as Alzheimer's disease.

1384
01:16:53.520 --> 01:16:53.760
Hmm.

1385
01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:57.199
I want to mention, by the way, this is why

1386
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:00.000
I always say, like, I can appreciate people who want

1387
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:03.359
who like believe in nature as like, you know, being

1388
01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:06.239
like a naturropath. They're like, oh, but the solution everything

1389
01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:11.119
is in nature, okay. But nature wants us to be dead.

1390
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:14.399
Nature wants us to be dead so badly that they'll

1391
01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:16.199
give you an ailment and be like, well, if you

1392
01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:18.600
can find this one worm at the bottom of the

1393
01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:22.840
ocean on the other side of the planet, you can

1394
01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:29.880
be cured. Yeah, yeah, just saying, you know. Remarkably, the

1395
01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:34.000
discovery effort also uncovered larger animals, which have likely managed

1396
01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:37.479
to evade detection because they live at such great depths

1397
01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:41.760
and in less explored regions. The most charismatic among them

1398
01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:50.239
is perhaps the new species of ghost shark that scientists

1399
01:17:50.279 --> 01:17:53.880
found off the coast of Australia. Though distantly related to

1400
01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:57.159
sharks and rays, ghost sharks are not actually sharks at all,

1401
01:17:57.520 --> 01:18:01.039
but chimeras or chimeras, how you wanna say, A deep

1402
01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:04.720
sea chimeras a deep sea fish with a skeleton made

1403
01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:07.520
of cartilage instead of bone. So this is the one

1404
01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:08.800
you were looking at that you weren't sure if it

1405
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:10.199
was cute because you need to see it head on.

1406
01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:12.600
Now that I'm looking at it again, I love it.

1407
01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:15.640
Oh do you love it? Because now you know what's

1408
01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:16.279
a ghost shark?

1409
01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:19.399
No? I love its eye for some reason. I think

1410
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:20.520
it's really cute.

1411
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:24.880
Okay. In the same region, scientists also found unknown species

1412
01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:28.640
of ray. Would you call that a cute ray?

1413
01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:31.920
Yeah? I think it's pretty good. I mean I've seen

1414
01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:32.880
Raisa look kind.

1415
01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:37.760
Of like that before, and an unfamiliar example of what's

1416
01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:42.199
known as a cat shark. They're bottom dwellers with slender bodies,

1417
01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:47.479
and some of them apparently have a feline appearance. The

1418
01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:51.159
writer notes, I'm not seeing it in this particular fish,

1419
01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:52.720
which was found deep underwater in.

1420
01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:55.119
Australia, good because I also don't see it.

1421
01:18:55.800 --> 01:18:57.760
Yeah, I don't really see it looking like a feline

1422
01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:01.079
much either. No other than it appears disinterested in having

1423
01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:01.840
its photo taken.

1424
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:07.239
Mmmm, it is on. It looks like it's dead. Maybe

1425
01:19:07.479 --> 01:19:08.119
where is it?

1426
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:08.479
It's dead?

1427
01:19:08.880 --> 01:19:12.560
Yeah, that's why it's disinterested, if.

1428
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.439
You say so. Always defending them. But we're gonna take

1429
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:17.439
a quick break and when we get back, we'll look

1430
01:19:17.439 --> 01:19:20.039
at some more deep sea creatures and have Michelle rate

1431
01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:33.279
them as cute or not cute right after this. All right, Michelle,

1432
01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:36.960
you ready to rate some more deep sea creatures as

1433
01:19:37.039 --> 01:19:38.199
cute or not cute?

1434
01:19:38.279 --> 01:19:38.680
Sure?

1435
01:19:39.159 --> 01:19:43.159
All right? Uh, as I mentioned, we're on vox dot com.

1436
01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:46.199
Then there are animals that don't look like animals at all,

1437
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:49.600
like this unfamiliar sea sponge found in the South Atlantic,

1438
01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:53.000
not far from Antarctica, belonging to a group of animals

1439
01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:57.239
known as the ping pong ball sponges. I guess I

1440
01:19:57.279 --> 01:20:02.079
see the resemblance. I guess Ooh. This animal is carnivorous

1441
01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:05.800
and uses those balls, which are covered in tiny velcrow

1442
01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:10.479
like hooks, to entrap unsuspecting prey drifting by, such as

1443
01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:11.720
small crustaceans.

1444
01:20:13.159 --> 01:20:13.560
That's me.

1445
01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:16.640
It looks like a like a bunch of little balloons

1446
01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:17.439
stuck to a thing.

1447
01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:20.479
I guess I still think it looks like grapes.

1448
01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:24.520
Okay, but is it cute? That's what's most important.

1449
01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:29.039
I like crapes, so yes.

1450
01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:34.039
So yes, okay. Also in the South Atlantic, scientist you

1451
01:20:34.039 --> 01:20:34.439
don't like that.

1452
01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:35.800
No, I like it a lot.

1453
01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:40.199
Oh my gosh, it's just this. She just likes all

1454
01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:45.159
of it. Man, And I'm gonna try and show you this.

1455
01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:47.119
Let's see.

1456
01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:50.680
What's happening.

1457
01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:52.840
Just mind your own business.

1458
01:20:53.119 --> 01:20:53.960
I'm confused.

1459
01:20:54.119 --> 01:20:59.199
It's fine, you're fine. Nothing's happening. Oops. I messed everything up.

1460
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:01.960
Why did I? I decided to do this. Okay, it's fine,

1461
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:04.640
it's fine. I broke it. You can just say it.

1462
01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:05.800
I ruined it.

1463
01:21:05.800 --> 01:21:06.279
It's okay.

1464
01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:11.359
Oh. Also in the South Atlantic, scientists found an unknown

1465
01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:15.039
variety of sea pen, a kind of soft coral, more

1466
01:21:15.079 --> 01:21:18.880
than twenty six hundred feet below surface. Like you're like, wow,

1467
01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:25.399
it's really cool. It looks kind of like a feather,

1468
01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:30.439
like a like a duster, but upside down. Yeah, it's

1469
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:34.560
it's kind of salmon colored, although that might be inappropriate

1470
01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:38.640
to say, you know, since the sea creature. Yeah, oh,

1471
01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.319
this is interesting. It's not one individual animal, but a

1472
01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:46.439
colony of thousands of genetically identical polyps. Soft bodied creatures

1473
01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:47.760
with tentacles.

1474
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:50.399
Oh like it as much now, Oh.

1475
01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:51.319
Because it's a bunch of them.

1476
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:52.239
Yeah.

1477
01:21:52.279 --> 01:21:54.199
Does that bother you that it's a bunch of little things?

1478
01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:55.920
Yeah, a little man.

1479
01:21:57.039 --> 01:22:01.520
I get that. Yeah, I get that. It's okay. I

1480
01:22:01.520 --> 01:22:07.079
guess it's okay. Pow. We'll get through it. We'll get

1481
01:22:07.079 --> 01:22:12.600
through it together. But let's see. The announcement from Ocean

1482
01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:16.800
Census says that scientists quote discovered more than eleven hundred

1483
01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:20.720
new species in a single year. But those words must

1484
01:22:20.720 --> 01:22:24.600
be taken with a grain of salt. Yeah, uh oh,

1485
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:25.399
fact check.

1486
01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:26.199
Yeah.

1487
01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:29.920
Proving that a species is new to science is difficult.

1488
01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:34.560
It typically requires that taxonomists comb through existing museum collections

1489
01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:38.920
and academic literature to demonstrate that, based on anatomical, genetic,

1490
01:22:39.079 --> 01:22:42.720
or other traits, what they have has not been documented before.

1491
01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:45.239
I would have thought you could.

1492
01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:47.680
Just google it, yeah, or like look it up online

1493
01:22:47.720 --> 01:22:50.920
in the big resource center where you have all the

1494
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:52.199
animals in the ocean.

1495
01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:55.119
I would hope that most of the stuff has been captured,

1496
01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:56.520
and it's not like every time you have to go

1497
01:22:56.560 --> 01:22:58.880
to all these museums all over the world, like every time.

1498
01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:03.960
Maybe that's how they stay open, though, that's fair.

1499
01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:07.800
They can then submit their evidence for peer review in publication,

1500
01:23:08.239 --> 01:23:11.199
the typical process through which a species is formally described

1501
01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:14.880
and officially named, thus becoming a new species. Many of

1502
01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:17.640
the discoveries announced by the Ocean Census, however, have not

1503
01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:20.479
yet gone through that level of due diligence and have

1504
01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:23.880
not been formally described. According to Greg Raus, a marine

1505
01:23:23.880 --> 01:23:28.159
taxonomist at the Script's Institute of Oceanography, that means it's

1506
01:23:28.199 --> 01:23:31.119
not clear that all of those species are in fact

1507
01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:35.720
new to science. Okay, I like this to think this

1508
01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:37.640
article is just like, now, slow your role.

1509
01:23:38.680 --> 01:23:39.800
This isn't that cool.

1510
01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:43.079
This might not be this might be not great, this

1511
01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:43.680
might not.

1512
01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:45.479
Even be worth reporting on it all.

1513
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:50.279
Yeah, as I'm writing this up. Yeah, as the Ocean

1514
01:23:50.359 --> 01:23:53.880
Census points out in its announcement, the time between collecting

1515
01:23:53.880 --> 01:23:56.880
a species and formally describing it as new takes about

1516
01:23:57.159 --> 01:24:00.920
thirteen years on average.

1517
01:24:01.960 --> 01:24:03.239
It's not new anymore.

1518
01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:06.199
I feel like I feel like that's a really long time.

1519
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:08.439
I feel like you gotta speed that process up.

1520
01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:09.359
Yeah.

1521
01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:13.159
Geez, that means some ant Oh my gosh, they literally

1522
01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:15.000
said what I was about to joke. That means some

1523
01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:19.760
animals could go extinct before they're even described in scientific literature.

1524
01:24:20.199 --> 01:24:20.680
Wow.

1525
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:24.720
Quote, But that thirteen years is there for a reason,

1526
01:24:24.840 --> 01:24:29.159
said Rause, who isn't involved in the Ocean Census project.

1527
01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:33.520
Formally describing and naming a species not only confirms that

1528
01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:36.680
it's new, but also makes the species easier to study

1529
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:41.920
and conserve, such as through laws that protect named endangered species.

1530
01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:45.319
I mean a lot of these aren't in much danger

1531
01:24:45.319 --> 01:24:47.039
that far underwater. I don't feel like people are going

1532
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:50.039
to be going after them. I mean, although I mean

1533
01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:51.760
Michelle Mike, she wants to pet them all.

1534
01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:54.600
They're not gonna let me pet them, but you.

1535
01:24:54.640 --> 01:25:00.319
That doesn't mean you can't try, I guess. And she's

1536
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:03.199
getting really bummed out now, is it because they'll never

1537
01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:03.960
let you pet them?

1538
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:07.560
I mean that? And they're not new species? Probably, And

1539
01:25:07.600 --> 01:25:10.319
it's going to take thirteen years every time you find

1540
01:25:10.319 --> 01:25:10.760
a new.

1541
01:25:11.479 --> 01:25:14.039
To find out that your excitement was pointless and you're

1542
01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:20.840
just the uneducated swine exactly. Yeah, checks out quote. The

1543
01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:24.239
formal description process carries out the actual work to confirm

1544
01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:28.800
novelty and provides the passport for that new species, said

1545
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:32.520
Tommy Horton, a research scientist the UK's National Oceanography Center.

1546
01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:36.279
Without this, the formally recognized name the species effectively does

1547
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:41.800
not exist for science and therefore also for policy. Karen Osborne,

1548
01:25:41.800 --> 01:25:45.279
a taxonomist at the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History,

1549
01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:50.079
similarly expressed skepticism about the announcement. Discovery alone is not enough,

1550
01:25:50.079 --> 01:25:53.840
said Osborne, who's not directly involved in the Ocean census. Quote,

1551
01:25:54.119 --> 01:25:57.000
I don't feel like saying, oh, look, we discovered something new.

1552
01:25:57.039 --> 01:26:00.560
Should be given the status of something being described until

1553
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:03.800
you've actually done the work to show that it's something unique,

1554
01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:06.760
Osborne said. But she said it's a step in the

1555
01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:09.279
right direction. Chel's been making all kinds of like you're

1556
01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:13.239
given like a kind of snooty like, oh yeah.

1557
01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:15.520
It's just like it's like, oh, I don't think this

1558
01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:18.760
is important. Thanks guys, thanks for telling me about all

1559
01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:21.159
this stuff that's not important. I really appreciate it.

1560
01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:28.920
I I mean, yeah, if there's one thing that the

1561
01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:34.000
Ocean Census' findings are helping reveal with absolute certainty, it's

1562
01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:37.640
that so much of the planet's biodiversity remains a mystery

1563
01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:40.399
that is exciting and hopeful.

1564
01:26:40.840 --> 01:26:42.960
I mean maybe unless we've already discovered it.

1565
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:45.600
Unless they're all yeah, we just we just like dig

1566
01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:48.000
into the actual eleven hundred and there's just like a

1567
01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:51.720
like a dog, and like a squirrel and then like

1568
01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:53.960
a goldfish, and we're like, what is this? What all

1569
01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:54.520
of this is?

1570
01:26:55.079 --> 01:26:58.000
Yeah, they're like, oh no, sorry, we actually already disproved

1571
01:26:58.000 --> 01:26:59.439
that album was found before. Yeah.

1572
01:26:59.560 --> 01:27:01.880
Sorry, yeah, sorry, sorry, but the ghost sharks in there.

1573
01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:06.399
You're like, oh, man, quote, I would love for people

1574
01:27:06.439 --> 01:27:08.800
to know how much we don't know about how much

1575
01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:12.079
is out there, Osborne said, we've barely scratched the surface

1576
01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:16.840
on understanding our world. Well, considering you know, it's thirteen

1577
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:20.479
years each. I mean you're talking about like millennia to

1578
01:27:20.600 --> 01:27:23.079
confirm all of these species. So maybe that's why it's

1579
01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:23.760
taken so long.

1580
01:27:24.039 --> 01:27:26.720
It seems like we don't even understand not our world,

1581
01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:29.560
but what we understand. We don't even know what we know.

1582
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:32.720
You'd think they could catalog it to make this easier.

1583
01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:35.319
Yeah, So that's what my job is now. I have

1584
01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:37.319
to catalog all of the species.

1585
01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:40.600
Okay, Shell, is that your way of saying you got

1586
01:27:40.680 --> 01:27:41.760
to leave the show right now?

1587
01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:44.560
That is my way of saying, to get with bye forever.

1588
01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:51.119
Buy for a minimum of thirteen years well, we're going

1589
01:27:51.199 --> 01:27:53.520
to take a break and when we come back, if

1590
01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:58.159
Shell hasn't actually run off to investigate animal species, we're

1591
01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:02.439
going to finally talk about the cocktri cockroach thing. Yeah.

1592
01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:05.399
I made everybody wait, but hopefully it's worth the wait.

1593
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:17.119
I don't guarantee anything right after this. All right, Shell,

1594
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:23.079
we're back with the Huffington Post. The headline is cockroach

1595
01:28:23.239 --> 01:28:28.680
kingpin caught with one hundred thousand illegal insects in record

1596
01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:30.680
bug bust. Oh.

1597
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:31.960
I think I understand.

1598
01:28:33.159 --> 01:28:36.319
I hope so. I mean that was all English, but

1599
01:28:36.359 --> 01:28:38.119
wouldn't you know what We're back in Australia.

1600
01:28:38.600 --> 01:28:40.800
Oh, I don't really understand as much anymore.

1601
01:28:42.479 --> 01:28:44.760
Well, I mean, it's not poison mushrooms, but it'll have

1602
01:28:44.840 --> 01:28:50.079
to do in Wellington, New Oh, it's sorry, Wellington News. Wait. Oh,

1603
01:28:50.119 --> 01:28:52.920
the AP's coming from New Zealand. It is in Australia.

1604
01:28:53.920 --> 01:28:58.279
More than one hundred thousand live cockroaches. More than one

1605
01:28:58.359 --> 01:29:02.239
hundred thousand live cockroake cockroaches illegal to keep in Australia

1606
01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:05.800
were confiscated from a single breeder in the country's largest

1607
01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:11.920
ever seizure of exotic invertebrates, officials said on Friday, Apparently

1608
01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:14.079
there is quite a black market for cockroaches.

1609
01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:17.680
I assume they're like the big ones, like the hissing cockroaches,

1610
01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:19.800
not like cockroaches, which.

1611
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:24.239
Means the literal. Next line, the hall of Madagascar hissing

1612
01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:30.680
cockroaches and Dubia cockroaches worth two hundred thousand Australian dollars. Okay,

1613
01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:32.760
so there's money to be made in this.

1614
01:29:33.640 --> 01:29:35.159
Yeah.

1615
01:29:35.640 --> 01:29:38.359
Was seized in May from a commercial breeder in the

1616
01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:41.800
city of Bathurst and New South Wales State, according to

1617
01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:45.439
Australia's Department of Climate Change, Energy, Environment and Water.

1618
01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:48.359
Okay, so.

1619
01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:52.600
Wait, so I mean if they have a cash value,

1620
01:29:52.920 --> 01:29:55.199
does that mean you can buy them?

1621
01:29:56.399 --> 01:29:58.960
Well, maybe the cash value is on the black market,

1622
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:00.600
but that's.

1623
01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:03.279
Like can you even claim that then? Like, I mean,

1624
01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:03.880
I guess you can.

1625
01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:05.760
They do that with drugs, but yeah, they do with

1626
01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:06.640
drugs all the time.

1627
01:30:07.159 --> 01:30:10.800
Yeah, I guess you're right. The Madagascar hissing species is

1628
01:30:10.800 --> 01:30:14.560
one of the biggest cockroaches, measuring two to three inches

1629
01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:18.520
in length. It's pretty big for cockroach.

1630
01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:19.640
I guess.

1631
01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:22.359
I mean, well, you lived in Philly, so I guess

1632
01:30:22.439 --> 01:30:24.239
the cockroaches were like impressive.

1633
01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:27.439
I thought so, and I lived in Florida's and I

1634
01:30:27.479 --> 01:30:29.640
know what the cockroaches look like there too. You.

1635
01:30:32.960 --> 01:30:36.359
Photos released by the department showed a shiny brown invertebrate

1636
01:30:36.479 --> 01:30:39.840
larger than a person's finger. It's much bigger than the

1637
01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:43.199
country's common Australian cockroach, which measures between point nine and

1638
01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:46.880
one point four inches. Oh they're small, yeah, which is

1639
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:50.199
surprising because Australia is always like the most terrifying of everything,

1640
01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:56.239
like everything wants to kill you in Australia. I mean,

1641
01:30:56.479 --> 01:30:57.600
I mean, I'm not making that up.

1642
01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:01.000
I mean to be to be fair. I find small

1643
01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:05.960
cockroaches much scarier than large cockroaches, so it's still kind

1644
01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:06.880
of scary to me.

1645
01:31:07.720 --> 01:31:09.720
You know, the movie creep Show, they had a whole

1646
01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:13.720
thing with cockroaches, like this crazy cockroach segment in the

1647
01:31:13.720 --> 01:31:16.159
movie Creep Show, and they filmed it at a I

1648
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:19.000
think it was a university is where they built the sets,

1649
01:31:19.479 --> 01:31:22.359
and they absolutely couldn't keep the cockroaches they had bred

1650
01:31:22.479 --> 01:31:27.119
under control, and supposedly, to this day, like they find

1651
01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:30.359
cock like that specific breed of cockroach that wasn't like

1652
01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:32.840
normal to that area, they still find them in the school.

1653
01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:36.720
God, that's terrible. I mean, unless they're the Madagascar hissing

1654
01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:38.039
cockroaches and it's fine.

1655
01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:40.159
I don't know if they were those. They were definitely

1656
01:31:40.199 --> 01:31:43.319
like an unusual, more cinematic looking cockroaches.

1657
01:31:43.359 --> 01:31:44.920
Okay, that's fine, I don't care.

1658
01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:49.319
Cockroaches flourish in Australia due to its subtropical climates, and

1659
01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:51.960
the country is home to hundreds of species.

1660
01:31:52.359 --> 01:31:52.680
Wow.

1661
01:31:53.359 --> 01:31:57.239
Bathurst snake catcher Stephanie Lesser told the Australian Broadcasting Core

1662
01:31:57.680 --> 01:32:00.960
that the larger exotic species were like being sold as

1663
01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:05.199
a cost effective reptile food because their large sizement, fewer

1664
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:08.520
insects were needed. Officials urged pet owners to seek out

1665
01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:12.720
crickets or woodroaches to feed their lizards instead. They haven't.

1666
01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:16.800
I guess they haven't mentioned that they're dangerous to here,

1667
01:32:16.920 --> 01:32:18.439
but they're going to because I was gonna say, like,

1668
01:32:19.359 --> 01:32:21.119
I mean, why wouldn't you want bigger cockroaches?

1669
01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:23.640
Yeah, I guess they're an invasive species.

1670
01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:31.079
Or potentially invasive. Both Madagascar hissing and Dubia cockroaches are

1671
01:32:31.119 --> 01:32:34.399
illegal to import into Australia. They can't be kept legally,

1672
01:32:34.880 --> 01:32:37.479
bread or sold, no matter how they were obtained, The

1673
01:32:37.479 --> 01:32:41.720
Department said in a statement. Australia has strict biosecurity controls

1674
01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:45.319
at its borders to protect its agriculture and horticulture sectors

1675
01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:49.720
and native wildlife from pest infestations. Those smuggling in undeclared

1676
01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:53.000
or illegal animal, insect or plant material can be fined

1677
01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:54.399
thousands of dollars.

1678
01:32:55.680 --> 01:32:56.600
Yeah.

1679
01:32:56.680 --> 01:32:58.520
Do you think they saw that episode of The Simpsons?

1680
01:32:58.560 --> 01:33:01.399
Where was it the rabbit or what was it or

1681
01:33:01.439 --> 01:33:04.199
the frog that Bart like brought some animal there and

1682
01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:07.159
it just it took over the entire continent, like in

1683
01:33:07.199 --> 01:33:07.560
a week.

1684
01:33:08.680 --> 01:33:09.239
I don't know.

1685
01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:12.680
Okay, fine, you need to know the Simpsons. You're you're

1686
01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:16.159
a millennial. No you need to know. No, No, I'm

1687
01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:17.279
trying to help you.

1688
01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:19.079
No, No, it's over. I'm done.

1689
01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:22.399
Okay, just go back to talking about in you Yasha

1690
01:33:22.520 --> 01:33:25.359
or whatever you were into when you were a kid.

1691
01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:28.319
I was, Oh, I make you mad?

1692
01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:32.640
No, but I like didn't watch any Yasha id.

1693
01:33:33.960 --> 01:33:36.479
Oh God, that's worse. You read it. That's way worse.

1694
01:33:37.079 --> 01:33:38.039
That's so much worse.

1695
01:33:38.680 --> 01:33:39.199
Sorry.

1696
01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:44.199
Exotic cockroaches quote have not been subject to an environmental

1697
01:33:44.279 --> 01:33:48.239
risk assessment and they could spread disease or harm native wildlife.

1698
01:33:48.279 --> 01:33:52.800
The statement said officials warned of prosecutions against those caught

1699
01:33:52.840 --> 01:33:59.359
with invertebrates. So that's weird that they haven't, Like they

1700
01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:02.399
don't even know that they would be bad for the environment.

1701
01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:03.560
They just don't want them.

1702
01:34:03.840 --> 01:34:06.119
Yeah, I mean I get that, But like, also, what

1703
01:34:06.159 --> 01:34:10.279
I'm failing to understand is, why wouldn't this person who's

1704
01:34:10.319 --> 01:34:12.840
like breeding all these cockroaches, why not just breed the

1705
01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:14.920
woodroaches that they said that you could.

1706
01:34:14.680 --> 01:34:19.760
Feed the Probably because it's inefficient. Some people just want

1707
01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:22.079
to do the better way and the government and it

1708
01:34:22.119 --> 01:34:22.880
gets in their way.

1709
01:34:23.640 --> 01:34:26.039
I guess I get it. But the cockroaches are pretty

1710
01:34:26.079 --> 01:34:28.399
I think, pretty prolific, so would I would think it

1711
01:34:28.399 --> 01:34:32.800
would work out for them? Man?

1712
01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:37.279
Maybe? Oh well, this is the part that makes this

1713
01:34:37.399 --> 01:34:42.199
article really weird. The last line. A spokesperson said charges

1714
01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:45.000
were not laid against the Bathurst breeder, So the guy

1715
01:34:45.079 --> 01:34:50.359
wasn't charged, okay for having like one hundred thousand illegal cockroaches. Wow,

1716
01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:59.000
the cockroaches were seized and would be euthanized the department, Oh, one.

1717
01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:05.319
Hundred thousand just gone yep, just because we don't know

1718
01:35:05.359 --> 01:35:06.920
if it would be okay to bring it in the

1719
01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:08.600
country or not. Why don't they just send them back

1720
01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:09.560
to Madagascar.

1721
01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:12.840
I feel like that's well, I don't know how many.

1722
01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:16.600
I don't know how much one hundred thousand cockroaches Madagascar cockroaches.

1723
01:35:16.600 --> 01:35:17.840
How much space that takes up?

1724
01:35:18.039 --> 01:35:19.159
I don't think very much.

1725
01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:22.119
Probably not much. Yeah, I mean you could just look

1726
01:35:22.159 --> 01:35:24.199
into it. But I guess they're trying to protect big

1727
01:35:24.239 --> 01:35:27.960
cockroach in Australia. Yeah, you know, they're like, why not

1728
01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:31.720
breed our Australian cockroaches. It's like, well, because these get bigger,

1729
01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:33.720
so they're better for lizards to eat.

1730
01:35:34.199 --> 01:35:37.880
Uh huh No, no, no, just puts all the other

1731
01:35:37.960 --> 01:35:40.039
cockroach companies out of business if you do that.

1732
01:35:40.399 --> 01:35:43.960
Yeah, our local cockroaches, our mom and pop cockroach shops.

1733
01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:45.680
You can't be doing that.

1734
01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:47.920
Yeah.

1735
01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:50.720
Well, we're gonna take a quick break and then we're

1736
01:35:50.720 --> 01:35:56.479
gonna dive into a haunted house for sale, because Michelle

1737
01:35:56.479 --> 01:36:08.000
loves her some houses. Right after this? All right, sochell.

1738
01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:12.319
This article is actually from real litter dot com. Oh wow,

1739
01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:17.119
and the headline is Haunted Civil War era Octagon mansion

1740
01:36:17.239 --> 01:36:21.000
hits the market in Virginia for less than three hundred

1741
01:36:21.119 --> 01:36:25.560
thousand dollars after being left vacant for the first time

1742
01:36:25.720 --> 01:36:26.399
in years.

1743
01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:31.199
I hoped it was less three hundred.

1744
01:36:31.119 --> 01:36:33.560
In this market. That's low, though.

1745
01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:36.159
I mean, depending on where it is in Virginia.

1746
01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:41.600
Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine that there's many places

1747
01:36:41.600 --> 01:36:43.600
in Virginia where a place I mean, I guess, what's

1748
01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:45.800
the square footage? Is what I need to know. Yeah,

1749
01:36:45.880 --> 01:36:49.600
you know, like maybe it's maybe it's not very big.

1750
01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:52.560
Oh no, it's nine eight hundred and two square feet.

1751
01:36:52.680 --> 01:36:54.119
Okay, that's a really good price.

1752
01:36:54.199 --> 01:36:57.319
Oh nope, this is Nope, that's a different thing. God,

1753
01:36:57.920 --> 01:37:00.880
it's always trying to get us to read new stuff. Yeah,

1754
01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:03.840
they're showing other listings at the bottom. Who would have

1755
01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:05.760
thought real ortor dot COM's goal would be to sell

1756
01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:08.960
you a house. Yeah, but it's a cute looking house,

1757
01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:09.359
isn't it?

1758
01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:11.760
Uh huh.

1759
01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:15.960
Located in Withville, Virginia, the historic abode, which is known

1760
01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:19.039
as the Octagon Mansion, was built in eighteen seventy and

1761
01:37:19.079 --> 01:37:22.800
has been the subject of multiple paranormal investigations in more

1762
01:37:22.800 --> 01:37:26.920
recent years, many of which were documented on its Facebook page.

1763
01:37:27.960 --> 01:37:29.520
That's nice, I guess.

1764
01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:33.920
I mean it's a way to keep people interested. I suppose. Okay,

1765
01:37:34.119 --> 01:37:37.800
it's six bedrooms, two and a half baths, five thousand

1766
01:37:37.840 --> 01:37:38.439
square feet.

1767
01:37:38.760 --> 01:37:41.760
Okay, that's a very reasonable price for five thousand square feet.

1768
01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:44.720
Yeah. I was say, my house is is like, you know,

1769
01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:49.199
about a thousand square feet, and now they're saying it's

1770
01:37:49.199 --> 01:37:51.199
almost worth two hundred thousand dollars, which is insane to me.

1771
01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:53.359
Yeah, so.

1772
01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:57.479
I feel like two ninety five, and you're seeing these pictures,

1773
01:37:57.520 --> 01:38:02.039
like the interior looks pretty nice. There's pink wall, which

1774
01:38:02.079 --> 01:38:02.520
is hard.

1775
01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:05.039
It's hard to tell because a lot of times, even

1776
01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:07.640
if you see nice interior pictures, they're just like not

1777
01:38:07.760 --> 01:38:09.399
showing you like the big hole in the ceiling.

1778
01:38:10.840 --> 01:38:13.560
Yeah, oh drop ceilings in there in the hallways a

1779
01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:15.359
little well, but I get it though, because it's like

1780
01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:18.920
a very business like what do you call it, Like

1781
01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:22.960
a very business like gazebo or landing or whatever you

1782
01:38:22.960 --> 01:38:25.920
call it. I guess like it looked more like you

1783
01:38:25.960 --> 01:38:29.720
were going into a place to buy something to me. However,

1784
01:38:30.640 --> 01:38:33.680
from twenty nineteen it was also home to the Octagon

1785
01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:38.720
Mansion History Museum, a project started by curator John Cushman

1786
01:38:39.079 --> 01:38:41.640
after he purchased the dwelling that same year, after it

1787
01:38:41.680 --> 01:38:46.680
had sat vacant for close to a decade. However, in

1788
01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:50.119
March of twenty twenty five, the museum, which operated regular

1789
01:38:50.239 --> 01:38:54.560
Dinner with a Ghost events, was shuttered for good. No,

1790
01:38:56.279 --> 01:38:59.079
the dwelling is now seeking a new steward with enough

1791
01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:01.640
gumption to take on a property with such an eerie

1792
01:39:02.279 --> 01:39:08.159
yet rich history. And that's you, Michelle Ray.

1793
01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:11.199
I mean I've lived there. Yeah, I don't care.

1794
01:39:12.359 --> 01:39:16.359
I don't care. Octagon homes rose to popularity during the

1795
01:39:16.399 --> 01:39:22.119
eighteen fifties and eighteen sixties, when designers began creating the

1796
01:39:22.159 --> 01:39:24.600
eight sided abodes out of the belief that they would

1797
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:29.039
offer additional space for less money. I don't know that

1798
01:39:29.039 --> 01:39:33.159
that's how octagons actually work, but I mean, I could

1799
01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:40.960
be wrong, but I don't think I am. I really don't. However,

1800
01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:46.720
the oh Wait in eighteen forty eight book The Octagon House,

1801
01:39:46.720 --> 01:39:49.479
A Home for All by Orson Fowler, was even dedicated

1802
01:39:49.479 --> 01:39:52.640
to espousing the benefits of living in a dwelling that

1803
01:39:52.720 --> 01:39:56.319
had twice as many sides as traditional homes. I love

1804
01:39:56.359 --> 01:39:59.039
that that's their thing. They're like, we can have more sides.

1805
01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:01.680
Yeah, that'll make everything easier.

1806
01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:05.000
Oh, does your house have four walls? What are you

1807
01:40:05.239 --> 01:40:09.960
a grandpa? This ain't your Granddaddy's house. This has doubled

1808
01:40:09.960 --> 01:40:14.479
the walls for double the badass. I don't know how

1809
01:40:14.479 --> 01:40:21.479
they market it is twice as many sides. However, the

1810
01:40:21.520 --> 01:40:23.960
fad was short lived, and within a few decades the

1811
01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:26.439
Octagon House had fallen out of favor, and many of

1812
01:40:26.479 --> 01:40:29.640
these properties built during the height of their popularity were

1813
01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:34.319
later demolished. Oh no, see now, Chell's like I have.

1814
01:40:34.239 --> 01:40:36.720
To help them exactly geez.

1815
01:40:37.800 --> 01:40:40.680
Today, just a few remain across the country, many of

1816
01:40:40.720 --> 01:40:44.359
which can be found on the East Coast. Hey, the

1817
01:40:44.399 --> 01:40:48.399
Octagon Mansion serves as one of the more carefully preserved examples.

1818
01:40:48.800 --> 01:40:52.319
In addition to its impressive heritage, the six bedroom property,

1819
01:40:52.319 --> 01:40:54.239
which has crept its way to the top of the

1820
01:40:54.279 --> 01:40:58.479
Week's Most Popular Homes list, has undergone a substantial remodel

1821
01:40:58.479 --> 01:41:01.359
in the recent years that saw it's five thousand square

1822
01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:05.920
foot interior outfitted with a commercial kitchen, updated bathrooms, and

1823
01:41:06.079 --> 01:41:11.880
upgraded electrical systems. Oh yay man, having upgraded, upgraded kitchen, bathrooms,

1824
01:41:11.880 --> 01:41:14.920
and electrical systems. And it's only three hundred it's under

1825
01:41:14.960 --> 01:41:18.000
three hundred grand. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty nice.

1826
01:41:18.199 --> 01:41:18.680
Yeah it is.

1827
01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:24.159
And still many original details remain, including the original hardwood floors,

1828
01:41:24.439 --> 01:41:28.520
custom built ins, and intricate millwork. The property is located

1829
01:41:28.560 --> 01:41:30.960
in a B two zoning, so it could be used

1830
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:34.279
to generate rental income as an event a venue, a

1831
01:41:34.319 --> 01:41:37.920
bed and breakfast, or a mixed use space. Multiple entrances

1832
01:41:38.039 --> 01:41:40.920
uniquely position the one of a kind property for a

1833
01:41:41.039 --> 01:41:50.279
variety of uses. Yeah, and it's haunted. Maybe maybe I'm

1834
01:41:50.319 --> 01:41:53.760
doubting it's haunted. But what do you think about the concept.

1835
01:41:53.800 --> 01:41:56.199
I mean, you're a home inspector. I like to mention

1836
01:41:56.279 --> 01:41:58.800
that in case people don't know, what do you think

1837
01:41:58.840 --> 01:42:01.760
about octagon house instead of a square house?

1838
01:42:02.399 --> 01:42:05.359
I mean, it's probably just really annoying, honestly. I mean,

1839
01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:09.279
like the kind of it's got to be less annoying

1840
01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:15.359
than like a circle, like a dome or something house because.

1841
01:42:15.279 --> 01:42:16.359
Because there's no corners.

1842
01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:20.039
Yeah, at least you have like walls and sides and things.

1843
01:42:20.520 --> 01:42:24.319
But I can't imagine it would be more you know

1844
01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:26.760
when a fishion of a design, you know, because I

1845
01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:28.720
just feel like it would be really difficult to have

1846
01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:32.159
the rooms make sense. You gotta fit a bed against

1847
01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:33.560
a wall and stuff like that.

1848
01:42:35.640 --> 01:42:38.079
I mean it is. I do think it's a little

1849
01:42:38.279 --> 01:42:39.359
a little unusual.

1850
01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:42.359
That being said, I would totally live in a house

1851
01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:43.720
that was octagon shaped.

1852
01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:50.079
Sounds fine, I believe that, Yeah, I don't. I don't

1853
01:42:50.119 --> 01:42:53.239
see how it could actually be other than having more

1854
01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:57.600
walls because of the corners, like having more corners, but

1855
01:42:57.600 --> 01:42:59.399
you're not having any right angle corners.

1856
01:43:00.079 --> 01:43:03.279
And I don't think corners are particularly useful usually.

1857
01:43:05.119 --> 01:43:07.159
Wow, that's a little hateful.

1858
01:43:07.399 --> 01:43:09.479
I mean they're a little useful, but most of the

1859
01:43:09.479 --> 01:43:14.279
time the things are going on not in the corners, right, Okay, fine,

1860
01:43:14.319 --> 01:43:16.399
maybe maybe corners are great.

1861
01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:22.840
Corners are pretty dope, man. Whatever, Well, maybe you'll luck

1862
01:43:22.880 --> 01:43:24.199
out and you'll get to inspect one.

1863
01:43:24.840 --> 01:43:26.439
Maybe, I don't think.

1864
01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:30.880
Maybe probably not. No, well, there, I wanted at least

1865
01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:35.520
have a little real estate for you, you know. Of course. Well,

1866
01:43:35.520 --> 01:43:37.680
when we get back, we're going to talk about our

1867
01:43:37.760 --> 01:43:42.000
subject or topic of the month, which is a pied

1868
01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:45.479
piper mystery, because I've always found the concept of the

1869
01:43:45.479 --> 01:43:48.840
pied piper really interesting and there's a lot of dark,

1870
01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:53.159
weird stuff involving it too, So we're gonna get educated

1871
01:43:53.640 --> 01:44:04.479
on the pied piper mystery right after this. All right,

1872
01:44:04.520 --> 01:44:07.800
we're back, and Cell has agreed. We were talking about

1873
01:44:07.800 --> 01:44:11.079
this during the break, has agreed to recount us with

1874
01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:15.199
her favorite telling of the Pied Piper. So, Michelle, no,

1875
01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:16.359
you got it.

1876
01:44:16.720 --> 01:44:19.920
I don't even know. There was like this person and

1877
01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:25.920
then like he had like a thing pipe flute maybe yeah, sure,

1878
01:44:26.520 --> 01:44:28.920
and then like you get all the kids and that's

1879
01:44:28.920 --> 01:44:29.600
at the end.

1880
01:44:32.760 --> 01:44:36.880
Wow. Uh you know. And I thought my bedtime stories

1881
01:44:36.920 --> 01:44:39.319
were a bit efficient having a single mom, but wow,

1882
01:44:39.439 --> 01:44:45.560
that was a go to bed door slam. Yeah. Well,

1883
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:48.520
the Pied Piper. I mean, like we've all heard versions

1884
01:44:48.560 --> 01:44:52.399
of it on in movies, TV shows or from family members.

1885
01:44:52.640 --> 01:44:56.159
But basically the idea, this piper comes along and he

1886
01:44:56.199 --> 01:45:00.199
can play a pipe or a flute or whatever, and

1887
01:45:00.319 --> 01:45:03.680
he can make like I think it was rodents. It

1888
01:45:03.720 --> 01:45:06.319
was like pests. He can make pests all follow him

1889
01:45:06.319 --> 01:45:11.880
into the woods, and that was like the thing he

1890
01:45:11.880 --> 01:45:14.479
could do. And people were so happy about him getting

1891
01:45:14.520 --> 01:45:17.760
rid of the pests. But then I guess they refuse

1892
01:45:17.840 --> 01:45:20.279
to pay him, hence the phrase you have to pay

1893
01:45:20.319 --> 01:45:24.720
the piper mm hm. And because they didn't pay him,

1894
01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:27.640
he did the same thing but took the children into

1895
01:45:27.680 --> 01:45:30.560
the woods instead, which is pretty dark.

1896
01:45:31.479 --> 01:45:35.600
Yeah, yeah, that's what you get. Yeah, I gotta pay

1897
01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:38.960
people when they you enter a business contract with.

1898
01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:42.319
Them, even a verbal one that counts.

1899
01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:43.600
Yeah, it does count.

1900
01:45:43.920 --> 01:45:49.439
Yeah. Well this is from folklore Thursday dot com, written

1901
01:45:49.439 --> 01:45:52.960
by a guy named al Ridenoir who has a podcast

1902
01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:55.840
called Bone and Sickle, which I actually really like. It's

1903
01:45:55.840 --> 01:45:59.600
a folklore podcast, huh. But he wrote this article and

1904
01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:03.479
it's in titled a Pied Piper Mystery, and it kind

1905
01:46:03.479 --> 01:46:09.880
of digs into the history and the concepts of the

1906
01:46:09.920 --> 01:46:13.279
pied piper. And I've always liked this story. I don't

1907
01:46:13.279 --> 01:46:15.079
know why. I think it's the simplicity, the idea that

1908
01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:17.720
he could play the pipes and make like snakes or

1909
01:46:18.239 --> 01:46:19.840
rats leave, and then he can play the pipes and

1910
01:46:19.840 --> 01:46:23.439
just take all the children. That's really scary. And supposedly

1911
01:46:23.479 --> 01:46:26.720
based on a true story of some sort of some

1912
01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:29.960
sort of some sort. Well that's folklore, though it's based

1913
01:46:29.960 --> 01:46:32.279
on a story of some sort. Like the old lady

1914
01:46:32.279 --> 01:46:33.479
who lived in a shoe. Well, there was an old

1915
01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:34.960
lady and she lived in a house and if you

1916
01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:36.640
squinted really hard, it might kind of look like shoe.

1917
01:46:36.640 --> 01:46:38.279
I don't know that's the story, but that's where it

1918
01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:41.600
came from, you know, folklore man.

1919
01:46:41.960 --> 01:46:43.680
Eh.

1920
01:46:43.800 --> 01:46:47.399
While the Pied Piper of Hamlin is undeniably a fairy tale,

1921
01:46:47.760 --> 01:46:52.039
it's uniquely grounded in real world specifics. The date for one,

1922
01:46:52.119 --> 01:46:53.720
and this is one of the reasons I chose this

1923
01:46:54.399 --> 01:46:57.720
the date of June twenty six, which is the Friday

1924
01:46:57.720 --> 01:47:02.760
before this airs. So June. That's the date in twelve

1925
01:47:02.880 --> 01:47:06.359
eighty four when the town lost a significant portion of

1926
01:47:06.399 --> 01:47:09.520
its population, a matter treated as fact in the first

1927
01:47:09.600 --> 01:47:13.159
written allusion to the incidents, The initial thirteen eighty four

1928
01:47:13.319 --> 01:47:16.960
entry in Hamlin's town chronicle says, quote, it is one

1929
01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:24.720
hundred years since our children left. Hmmm, what are you thinking?

1930
01:47:25.319 --> 01:47:28.239
Thinking that I accidentally killed the little matt that was

1931
01:47:28.239 --> 01:47:29.319
flying around my face?

1932
01:47:29.840 --> 01:47:30.680
How'd you do that?

1933
01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:33.800
I just wanted him to go away, so I squeezed

1934
01:47:33.840 --> 01:47:37.199
him and then he's drrible. Yeah.

1935
01:47:37.319 --> 01:47:39.039
I didn't know you were that kind of person.

1936
01:47:39.279 --> 01:47:41.159
I'm sorry.

1937
01:47:42.319 --> 01:47:45.680
Well, geez, hopefully you never learn how to play a pipe.

1938
01:47:46.079 --> 01:47:46.960
Yeah.

1939
01:47:47.039 --> 01:47:50.199
Presumably the incident was so well known that it required

1940
01:47:50.279 --> 01:47:53.720
no further explanation. It would have been familiar for what

1941
01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:56.960
oh I said, Wow, how dare you?

1942
01:47:57.920 --> 01:47:59.119
Yeah?

1943
01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:02.119
It would have been famil from oral tradition and had

1944
01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:05.840
already been represented in a window installed in Hamlin's Market

1945
01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:09.920
Church in thirteen hundred, though the window was destroyed in

1946
01:48:09.960 --> 01:48:14.000
sixteen sixty. A painting from fifteen ninety two reproducing the

1947
01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:17.640
window confirms some of the earliest elements of this story,

1948
01:48:18.039 --> 01:48:21.319
showing a piper and children heading toward what appeared to

1949
01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:26.000
be a cleft in a mountain. Oh, I do like

1950
01:48:26.039 --> 01:48:30.720
how it's like when you're dealing with European history, there's

1951
01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:32.600
a lot of those crazy jumps where it's like, anyway,

1952
01:48:32.680 --> 01:48:36.000
let's jump to thirteen eighty four, Let's jump to twelve

1953
01:48:36.079 --> 01:48:38.479
eighty four. You know, like, let's jump back. But then

1954
01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:41.760
you know mentioning. A window was installed with a representation

1955
01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:44.720
in thirteen hundred, but it got destroyed in sixteen sixty,

1956
01:48:44.720 --> 01:48:47.600
but somebody painted it in fifteen ninety two. It's just

1957
01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:49.800
I mean, that's a long period of time, like three

1958
01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:53.439
hundred and sixty years that that window was up, So

1959
01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:56.479
I guess somebody was like, that's cool, I'm gonna recreate it.

1960
01:48:58.600 --> 01:49:00.920
We know a few more details were fixed to the

1961
01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:04.000
story by the sixteenth century, as they are painted on

1962
01:49:04.039 --> 01:49:06.800
a gable of a building of that era that came

1963
01:49:06.840 --> 01:49:11.319
to be known as the Piper's house. I think it's

1964
01:49:11.439 --> 01:49:16.000
very strange that there's all these cryptic references in this

1965
01:49:16.079 --> 01:49:19.279
little town. Yea, that are like really old references.

1966
01:49:19.399 --> 01:49:21.199
Yeah. Yeah.

1967
01:49:21.239 --> 01:49:25.319
It gives the number of children as one hundred and thirty.

1968
01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:27.960
That's a lot of children.

1969
01:49:28.239 --> 01:49:31.439
I think that is a lot of kids. Yeah, the

1970
01:49:31.479 --> 01:49:36.159
loss occurred through a piper. It says one dressed in

1971
01:49:36.319 --> 01:49:43.560
pied or multi colored clothing. So I'm pied. Yeah, ah,

1972
01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:47.239
I feel so cool. Now cool, I guess I always

1973
01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:49.079
wonder what pied piper meant. Now I get it.

1974
01:49:49.479 --> 01:49:50.800
Yeah, me too, I didn't know.

1975
01:49:51.479 --> 01:49:53.000
Yeah, well, and it makes sense he's dressed in all

1976
01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:57.920
these colorful clothes and entertained children. He led them off

1977
01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:03.079
to quote cavalry near the hills. The allusion to Calvary,

1978
01:50:03.359 --> 01:50:06.560
the site of Christ's crucifixion, has been taken as an

1979
01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:14.920
allusion to a sort of fate or martyrdom. That's really creepy. Actually, Yeah,

1980
01:50:15.319 --> 01:50:18.079
so it says the piper took one hundred and thirty

1981
01:50:18.199 --> 01:50:22.399
kids to Calvary near the hills, and Calvary was the

1982
01:50:22.439 --> 01:50:28.680
site of the crucifixion. Yeah, that's that's actually really like

1983
01:50:28.720 --> 01:50:33.159
I'm actually like disturbed. Yeah, because that's so cryptic.

1984
01:50:33.279 --> 01:50:36.760
But yeah, yeah, yeah, but also.

1985
01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:38.800
Like I get it now, and I get that they

1986
01:50:38.840 --> 01:50:39.520
would get it then.

1987
01:50:40.640 --> 01:50:41.960
Yeah.

1988
01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:45.680
Some time after this inscription was created, the final element

1989
01:50:45.720 --> 01:50:49.640
of the story appears, the plague of rats.

1990
01:50:50.560 --> 01:50:54.039
Oh okay, I understand maybe, well, I.

1991
01:50:54.039 --> 01:50:56.760
Mean, because Pied Piper was you know, got all the

1992
01:50:56.840 --> 01:51:00.720
rats to leave town. In the story, at least a

1993
01:51:00.800 --> 01:51:04.680
nutshell refresher on the story as it was finally consolidated.

1994
01:51:05.039 --> 01:51:08.880
Hamlin is overrun with rats. A mysterious piper shows up,

1995
01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:13.199
offering a fix for the right price. The mayor agrees.

1996
01:51:13.520 --> 01:51:16.119
The stranger plays his pipe to draw up the rats

1997
01:51:16.159 --> 01:51:19.159
and steer them into the Wesser River to drown. The

1998
01:51:19.199 --> 01:51:23.079
mayor renegs on payment, and the stranger leaves, only to

1999
01:51:23.159 --> 01:51:26.439
return on June twenty sixth to lead the town's youth

2000
01:51:26.479 --> 01:51:33.600
away into a cave in a mountain. So they but

2001
01:51:33.920 --> 01:51:35.840
I mean, I get it. He renegged because like the

2002
01:51:35.920 --> 01:51:37.920
rats were already drowned. So what is he gonna do

2003
01:51:38.199 --> 01:51:39.079
undrowned the rats?

2004
01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:42.520
Yeah, exactly, he's a bad person.

2005
01:51:43.319 --> 01:51:44.399
For drowning the rats.

2006
01:51:44.640 --> 01:51:48.359
No for for renegging eyes, I agree, promise, Yeah, I mean,

2007
01:51:48.600 --> 01:51:50.720
I mean I like rats, but at this period of time,

2008
01:51:50.800 --> 01:51:56.520
they were pretty bad news. I wouldn't want the rats drowned,

2009
01:51:56.560 --> 01:51:59.119
but I'm just gonna let that be in this case

2010
01:51:59.159 --> 01:51:59.520
because I.

2011
01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:03.199
Don't know fair enough, while we know the rats are

2012
01:52:03.239 --> 01:52:06.800
merely an element of the storyteller's craft, because rats actually

2013
01:52:06.840 --> 01:52:09.840
can swim quite well, that's a really good point. Although

2014
01:52:09.840 --> 01:52:11.079
I guess he could have been like they could have

2015
01:52:11.119 --> 01:52:13.840
been hypnotized to where they're just like walking into the

2016
01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:15.239
water and just not doing anything.

2017
01:52:16.199 --> 01:52:19.600
I guess that doesn't sound realistic.

2018
01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:23.600
You're right, that's the one you poked, the one hole

2019
01:52:23.720 --> 01:52:27.920
in this whole thing. The sober entry in the town

2020
01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:31.960
chronicle and stained glass commemoration of the event only sixteen

2021
01:52:32.039 --> 01:52:35.319
years after the fact, as well as the specificity of

2022
01:52:35.359 --> 01:52:39.359
the gable inscription, all argue for a real world tragedy

2023
01:52:39.800 --> 01:52:46.600
that calls for explanation. So what answers have been proposed, Well,

2024
01:52:46.640 --> 01:52:49.520
we'll get to that right after this quick break. So

2025
01:52:50.319 --> 01:52:53.119
make sure you pay your piper, and by that I

2026
01:52:53.159 --> 01:52:56.119
mean support a sponsor or something. I don't I like

2027
01:52:56.159 --> 01:53:07.279
you anyway, right after this, so let's look at what

2028
01:53:07.399 --> 01:53:12.640
answers have been suggested on the Pied Piper mystery. In

2029
01:53:12.680 --> 01:53:17.239
Hamelin Hamelin, I think it's how I say it. One

2030
01:53:17.319 --> 01:53:19.920
theory has to do with the plague. That was kind

2031
01:53:19.920 --> 01:53:22.760
of what I was thinking with the rats here, the

2032
01:53:22.840 --> 01:53:26.600
piper is simply a symbolic representation of the grim Reaper

2033
01:53:27.960 --> 01:53:31.359
in reference to the plague. Death was frequently represented as

2034
01:53:31.359 --> 01:53:35.439
a musician in the dance macabre trope. Okay, I mean

2035
01:53:35.439 --> 01:53:36.000
that's true.

2036
01:53:36.319 --> 01:53:36.840
Yeah.

2037
01:53:36.880 --> 01:53:41.119
Also, I mean if you meet magicians or magicians musicians,

2038
01:53:42.039 --> 01:53:45.760
I could see them being Death. But the Black Death

2039
01:53:45.880 --> 01:53:49.600
did not arrive in Europe until thirteen forty seven, which

2040
01:53:49.680 --> 01:53:56.800
was fifty years after the incident. That surprises me. I

2041
01:53:56.840 --> 01:53:58.640
really thought this was about the Black Plague.

2042
01:53:58.960 --> 01:54:01.439
Yeah, yeah, thought it made sense.

2043
01:54:02.800 --> 01:54:06.319
It's also been suggested that Hamlin's youth left to take

2044
01:54:06.399 --> 01:54:09.960
part in the Children's Crusade, an effort to retake the

2045
01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:15.960
Holy Lands not by warfare but by evangelizing presence of children. However,

2046
01:54:16.079 --> 01:54:19.800
the Children's Crusade was supposed to have happened in twelve twelve,

2047
01:54:20.359 --> 01:54:24.640
not twelve eighty four. How or whether the Crusade happened

2048
01:54:24.640 --> 01:54:28.159
at all is also subject to debate. Yeah, we are

2049
01:54:28.199 --> 01:54:33.079
getting real far back. Yeah, Like I like that. It's

2050
01:54:33.119 --> 01:54:34.760
not just like it could have been this thing, but

2051
01:54:34.800 --> 01:54:37.680
also we don't know if that thing even happened. Yeah, yeah,

2052
01:54:37.720 --> 01:54:39.760
and if it did, it probably happened in this time.

2053
01:54:39.800 --> 01:54:44.960
But again we don't even know. Yeah this, yeah, because

2054
01:54:45.680 --> 01:54:47.720
it still blows back. I really thought this was about

2055
01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:50.560
the Black Plague, because there's so many folk tales and

2056
01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:54.279
fairy tales and nursery rhymes that are all related to

2057
01:54:54.560 --> 01:54:57.880
the Black Plague, which obviously, I mean, it affected a

2058
01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:02.840
lot of people, so people would make art about it, Yeah, exactly.

2059
01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:05.199
I mean I would assume at least some of it

2060
01:55:05.279 --> 01:55:09.399
might have been retroactively put on it, you know, later on,

2061
01:55:09.720 --> 01:55:13.800
like when they were reinterpreting it. A more attractive theory

2062
01:55:13.880 --> 01:55:17.319
relates to the relates the loss to the medieval dancing

2063
01:55:17.359 --> 01:55:21.279
plague or dancing mania, a form of mass hysteria during

2064
01:55:21.319 --> 01:55:24.920
which groups ranging from dozens to thousands were seized by

2065
01:55:24.960 --> 01:55:29.920
an uncontrollable desire to dance or leap about wildly for days, weeks,

2066
01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:33.239
or even months at a time, usually to the point

2067
01:55:33.239 --> 01:55:38.039
of exhaustion and sometimes death. You seemed very knowing when

2068
01:55:38.039 --> 01:55:40.039
you heard that. You heard of that before. Yeah, yeah,

2069
01:55:40.880 --> 01:55:42.000
you've heard of dance mania.

2070
01:55:42.760 --> 01:55:44.760
I've heard of that yeah that yeah.

2071
01:55:44.680 --> 01:55:48.039
Yeah, really, what do you know about it?

2072
01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:56.159
I don't know, just like that it hap that like happened,

2073
01:55:56.199 --> 01:55:58.000
and that it was probably mass hysteria.

2074
01:55:58.680 --> 01:56:05.079
Okay, see, I lived through whole comania, but I made it,

2075
01:56:05.199 --> 01:56:05.399
you know.

2076
01:56:05.880 --> 01:56:09.119
Yeah, I know that was rough though for you it

2077
01:56:09.159 --> 01:56:11.600
wasn't easy.

2078
01:56:11.640 --> 01:56:15.520
This theory at least fits into the appropriate chronological window

2079
01:56:15.560 --> 01:56:18.680
as the dancing mania afflicted mainland Europe, beginning in the

2080
01:56:18.720 --> 01:56:22.920
eleventh century and lasting in some places into the early seventeenth,

2081
01:56:23.319 --> 01:56:26.640
and it keeps the piper as a literal musician leading

2082
01:56:26.640 --> 01:56:31.159
a sort of dancing procession out of the city. Okay,

2083
01:56:32.119 --> 01:56:35.560
I could see that. I guess you don't think that

2084
01:56:35.560 --> 01:56:36.279
that holds water.

2085
01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:40.399
No, I mean I guess I just did. Sure, Sure,

2086
01:56:40.520 --> 01:56:43.479
I don't know. I feel like, but then what happened

2087
01:56:43.520 --> 01:56:44.039
to these kids?

2088
01:56:44.079 --> 01:56:47.880
They just they just danced, danced into the woods and

2089
01:56:47.960 --> 01:56:51.600
never came back. Yeah, I mean that could be.

2090
01:56:52.359 --> 01:56:53.279
I guess.

2091
01:56:54.359 --> 01:56:57.840
I mean, you really seem to hate that theory.

2092
01:56:59.079 --> 01:57:00.640
I don't know, I don't know.

2093
01:57:00.880 --> 01:57:09.239
I don't know, I don't know. I think you do know. Fine,

2094
01:57:11.479 --> 01:57:15.840
Those overtaken by dancing mania were often said to travel

2095
01:57:15.880 --> 01:57:19.960
while dancing. The Hamlin's story seems not so different from

2096
01:57:20.000 --> 01:57:22.479
what happened in twelve fifty seven in the German town

2097
01:57:22.560 --> 01:57:26.520
of Erfert, a couple of hours to the south. There,

2098
01:57:26.640 --> 01:57:32.439
it's reported that one thousand children left the town furiously dancing, leaping,

2099
01:57:32.479 --> 01:57:38.520
and singing, traveling fifteen miles to the town of arnstackt Arnstadt.

2100
01:57:38.760 --> 01:57:41.000
Most of them, however, did return.

2101
01:57:41.720 --> 01:57:44.279
You would think, so, I don't.

2102
01:57:44.039 --> 01:57:46.520
Know, I don't I mean, when I have dance Mania,

2103
01:57:47.920 --> 01:57:50.079
it sounds like a video game that you like, like

2104
01:57:50.479 --> 01:57:53.199
that was It sounds like a when your your town

2105
01:57:53.319 --> 01:57:55.600
is too poor to have a dance Dance Revolution at

2106
01:57:55.600 --> 01:57:59.640
the arcades, they have a dance Mania instead, and you're like, uh,

2107
01:57:59.720 --> 01:58:02.600
it's it's just as good. And you're like, it isn't that.

2108
01:58:02.680 --> 01:58:06.439
I'll play it anyway, yell. Were you a DDR person

2109
01:58:06.439 --> 01:58:07.760
a dance Dance Revolution person?

2110
01:58:08.039 --> 01:58:08.880
No?

2111
01:58:08.880 --> 01:58:15.439
No, no, I was not mean neither. Adherence to this

2112
01:58:15.560 --> 01:58:19.760
theory suggests that, since the mania proved contagious, Hamlin might

2113
01:58:19.800 --> 01:58:22.159
have hired a piper to lead the dancers beyond the

2114
01:58:22.199 --> 01:58:28.319
city walls to prevent city wide infection. Okay, sure, I'm

2115
01:58:28.319 --> 01:58:30.640
not gonna lie. I'm so fascinated by dancing mania. I

2116
01:58:30.680 --> 01:58:33.039
just wrote it down to study it for terrifying and true,

2117
01:58:33.640 --> 01:58:36.800
I really want to know more about dancing madia. That's

2118
01:58:36.840 --> 01:58:40.800
bizarre to me. Uh, and the idea's contagious and like, I, I,

2119
01:58:41.119 --> 01:58:46.960
what is this? That's yeah, but that's why I mean.

2120
01:58:46.960 --> 01:58:48.760
I want to know more about mass hysteria as well,

2121
01:58:49.199 --> 01:58:52.600
just having trouble. Like, I understand that those are things,

2122
01:58:52.600 --> 01:58:57.159
but I don't understand them. Okay, you know, yeah, perhaps

2123
01:58:57.159 --> 01:59:01.000
it was conceived as some temporary measure, but some unexpected

2124
01:59:01.119 --> 01:59:04.520
evil befell the children once they were removed. But the

2125
01:59:04.600 --> 01:59:08.079
dancing mania itself is so little understood that it hardly

2126
01:59:08.119 --> 01:59:11.920
feels like a rational answer to our question. One of

2127
01:59:11.960 --> 01:59:16.640
the most widely accepted theories posits a mass emigration. This

2128
01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:21.359
explanation understands the so called children of Hamelin metaphorically as

2129
01:59:21.840 --> 01:59:25.640
those who belong to Hamlin. I think that makes a

2130
01:59:25.640 --> 01:59:28.920
lot of sense. Yeah, I think so too, And that

2131
01:59:29.079 --> 01:59:33.760
is a usage more common in Germany. It suggests that

2132
01:59:33.800 --> 01:59:36.840
a generation of youths, young men, or young families left

2133
01:59:36.960 --> 01:59:40.119
en Mass to seek their fortunes in more promising lands,

2134
01:59:40.479 --> 01:59:44.720
namely Baltic regions to the northeast. The former Pomerania and

2135
01:59:44.760 --> 01:59:51.760
East Prussia, Moravia or Morovia, sorry now Czech Republic or Transylvania, Romania.

2136
01:59:52.159 --> 01:59:54.680
Oh so now I think we're getting to Dracula find.

2137
01:59:54.760 --> 01:59:58.039
Yeah, yeah, the vampires, got it, got it.

2138
01:59:58.920 --> 02:00:02.239
All of these areas were settled by German migrants during

2139
02:00:02.279 --> 02:00:05.600
the period in question. The Grimm's version, which itself is

2140
02:00:05.640 --> 02:00:10.239
supposed to have been synthesized from eleven earlier sources, explicitly

2141
02:00:10.359 --> 02:00:14.159
mentions the last saying quote. Some say that the children

2142
02:00:14.199 --> 02:00:16.800
were led into a cave and that they came out

2143
02:00:16.840 --> 02:00:18.840
again in Transylvania.

2144
02:00:20.840 --> 02:00:21.520
There you go.

2145
02:00:22.119 --> 02:00:28.760
Okay, okay. In the emigration scenario, our piper would have

2146
02:00:28.800 --> 02:00:33.640
been the figure historically known as a lacatur a latinate

2147
02:00:33.800 --> 02:00:40.000
coinage meaning relocators. These individuals were employed by nobility to

2148
02:00:40.039 --> 02:00:46.279
recruit military, agricultural, agriculture and trade workers needing to colonize

2149
02:00:46.319 --> 02:00:53.800
underpopulated or hostile areas under their rule. Okay, so now

2150
02:00:53.800 --> 02:00:55.399
we're getting into government.

2151
02:00:56.039 --> 02:00:58.199
Yeah now, but it's like sounding like, oh okay, it

2152
02:00:58.359 --> 02:01:02.000
just went on to it a different place. Yeay, everything's fine.

2153
02:01:03.119 --> 02:01:09.640
Yeah. Maybe the locator would have arrived as a stranger,

2154
02:01:09.840 --> 02:01:13.560
perhaps in a foreign uniform, or brightly dressed to attract attention,

2155
02:01:14.119 --> 02:01:16.199
and may have announced his presence in the town with

2156
02:01:16.359 --> 02:01:20.000
musical fanfare. The pipe playing of the folk tale could

2157
02:01:20.000 --> 02:01:22.960
have thus been a sort of song and dance, likely

2158
02:01:23.039 --> 02:01:26.840
to take in younger, gullible folk eager to enjoy the

2159
02:01:26.920 --> 02:01:31.760
promised riches of these eastern lands. This last theory seems

2160
02:01:31.760 --> 02:01:34.600
the most reasonable, but ascribing the piper's dress and music

2161
02:01:34.680 --> 02:01:39.520
making to the locator, while interesting, maybe overburdening the theory

2162
02:01:39.560 --> 02:01:44.520
a bit. Maybe. I mean, it doesn't sound like whatever

2163
02:01:44.520 --> 02:01:46.880
it was. It sounds like if a locator came to

2164
02:01:46.920 --> 02:01:50.800
their town, he was not a good dude like he

2165
02:01:50.880 --> 02:01:53.239
sounds like he was kind of a charlatan who convinced

2166
02:01:53.239 --> 02:01:55.720
them to go to convince everybody to leave their home,

2167
02:01:55.800 --> 02:02:01.199
and clearly the home grieved it for a very long time.

2168
02:02:01.319 --> 02:02:01.520
Yeah.

2169
02:02:01.880 --> 02:02:05.359
Yeah, the story is a folk tale after all, and

2170
02:02:05.399 --> 02:02:08.840
the motif of enchanted music used to seduce mortals into

2171
02:02:08.880 --> 02:02:12.520
another realm is a staple of fairy stories throughout Europe.

2172
02:02:12.880 --> 02:02:15.319
It is like the element of the rats quite likely

2173
02:02:15.359 --> 02:02:20.439
a bit of embroidery by storytellers steeped in lush lore. Yeah,

2174
02:02:20.479 --> 02:02:22.880
I think that sounds pretty accurate.

2175
02:02:23.199 --> 02:02:24.079
Yeah.

2176
02:02:24.199 --> 02:02:26.479
That is interesting though. That so instead of a piper

2177
02:02:26.479 --> 02:02:30.000
coming and stealing the kids, it was like basically a

2178
02:02:30.039 --> 02:02:36.359
powerful representative of some lordship coming and being like, hey,

2179
02:02:36.399 --> 02:02:38.159
you kids, want to go somewhere where it's like way

2180
02:02:38.159 --> 02:02:42.039
cooler than here, Come with me. Look, I have funny pants.

2181
02:02:44.000 --> 02:02:46.479
In the early years of the story's evolution, the seductive

2182
02:02:46.560 --> 02:02:50.319
music could also be most psychologically compelling. The most psychologically

2183
02:02:50.359 --> 02:02:53.479
compelling element of the story healing wounds in a community

2184
02:02:53.479 --> 02:02:56.479
that suffered this loss. Regardless of the cause of the

2185
02:02:56.479 --> 02:03:01.439
tragedy through plague, children's crusade, dancing mania, or undane recruitment efforts,

2186
02:03:01.760 --> 02:03:05.760
Ascribing this tragedy to an irresistible supernatural agency might relieve

2187
02:03:05.840 --> 02:03:09.520
the sense of guilt of those remaining behind. Yeah, and

2188
02:03:09.560 --> 02:03:12.800
for modern audiences, the magic piping does, after all, make

2189
02:03:12.920 --> 02:03:15.920
for an engaging tale, one that's lived to mark it's

2190
02:03:15.960 --> 02:03:20.079
seven hundred and thirty fifth anniversary at the time of

2191
02:03:20.119 --> 02:03:20.960
this writing.

2192
02:03:21.359 --> 02:03:21.680
Wow.

2193
02:03:23.279 --> 02:03:25.960
Yeah, to me, it sounds more like it's almost like, yeah,

2194
02:03:26.000 --> 02:03:29.399
like I was saying, like it's grieving them all leaving.

2195
02:03:29.920 --> 02:03:31.159
Yeah, that makes sense.

2196
02:03:31.960 --> 02:03:35.560
So geez. Yeah, I never thought about like I always

2197
02:03:35.680 --> 02:03:37.720
I always just assume because of the Rats. The Pied

2198
02:03:37.760 --> 02:03:40.680
Piper was about the Black Death. I didn't have no

2199
02:03:40.720 --> 02:03:41.359
idea about this.

2200
02:03:41.920 --> 02:03:43.840
Yeah, I didn't really think about it at all.

2201
02:03:44.039 --> 02:03:47.520
Honestly, Sorry, you don't think about folklore at all because

2202
02:03:47.560 --> 02:03:50.199
where you grew up, nobody ever told any fun stories

2203
02:03:50.319 --> 02:03:53.920
or anything. They nobody saw ghosts or heard about ghosts

2204
02:03:54.039 --> 02:03:54.600
or anything.

2205
02:03:57.239 --> 02:04:00.199
Sure, I mean we didn't. We didn't. We weren't all

2206
02:04:00.239 --> 02:04:03.199
folk glory like you are. But we saw definitely saw

2207
02:04:03.359 --> 02:04:04.680
ghosts and stuff.

2208
02:04:04.960 --> 02:04:14.399
Just where'd you see ghosts in my house? Okay? But

2209
02:04:14.439 --> 02:04:15.319
what about big feet?

2210
02:04:16.319 --> 02:04:22.039
No? See, I was from city people, when't tim?

2211
02:04:23.239 --> 02:04:24.840
Oh, so now you're calling me a yokeel?

2212
02:04:25.199 --> 02:04:25.520
Wow?

2213
02:04:26.319 --> 02:04:27.159
Is everybody hearing this?

2214
02:04:29.319 --> 02:04:30.640
Just a little geez?

2215
02:04:34.239 --> 02:04:37.000
Well, we're gonna take a quick break and wrap up

2216
02:04:37.039 --> 02:04:40.479
this month's episode of Monthly Spooky with some horror films

2217
02:04:40.479 --> 02:04:42.960
I saw in the theater and Michelle bringing us what

2218
02:04:43.039 --> 02:04:46.720
she has described to me as the most terrifying Reddit

2219
02:04:46.880 --> 02:04:50.319
entry ever known to man. They can't hear you shaking

2220
02:04:50.359 --> 02:04:53.079
your head, so they don't know that I'm setting you

2221
02:04:53.159 --> 02:04:57.239
up for failure. But we'll get to all that right

2222
02:04:57.279 --> 02:05:08.039
after this. We're back wrapping up this month's Monthly spooky,

2223
02:05:08.880 --> 02:05:11.760
and I wanted to talk about horror movies I saw

2224
02:05:11.800 --> 02:05:14.239
in the theater, but there actually weren't a lot this

2225
02:05:14.399 --> 02:05:17.079
go which I guess makes sense because last time there

2226
02:05:17.079 --> 02:05:20.159
were like six in the theater. It was a lot

2227
02:05:20.199 --> 02:05:22.680
of horror movies to see all at once in the

2228
02:05:22.680 --> 02:05:28.199
movie theater. But this go around we had one actual

2229
02:05:28.239 --> 02:05:31.840
horror movie, one sort of horror movie, and one parody

2230
02:05:31.880 --> 02:05:35.760
of horror movies. The parody, of course, was Scary Movie,

2231
02:05:36.760 --> 02:05:42.159
which I didn't love it, but it was amusing. It's

2232
02:05:42.359 --> 02:05:47.960
literally just for millennials who remember how much they loved

2233
02:05:48.119 --> 02:05:52.279
Scary Movie, and it makes but the movie even makes

2234
02:05:52.319 --> 02:05:54.079
fun of that because the whole point is that it's

2235
02:05:54.079 --> 02:05:56.359
a reboot of Scary Movie. Like so it's self aware

2236
02:05:56.399 --> 02:05:59.039
that it's a reboot, and it does all the stuff

2237
02:05:59.039 --> 02:06:02.159
that the horror boots do and makes fun of it, okay,

2238
02:06:03.640 --> 02:06:05.720
which I did appreciate. They did a lot of cool

2239
02:06:05.720 --> 02:06:09.560
stuff like that. They also one thing that really amused

2240
02:06:09.600 --> 02:06:12.119
me is they kept they keep establishing like young characters

2241
02:06:12.119 --> 02:06:14.720
that are supposed to replace the originals, and then the

2242
02:06:14.720 --> 02:06:17.880
originals are just like, I don't like any of you,

2243
02:06:17.079 --> 02:06:22.159
Like you guys are annoying. So it had some funny stuff,

2244
02:06:22.439 --> 02:06:28.039
but I will say that it mostly went after Scream five.

2245
02:06:29.399 --> 02:06:32.960
I think it was Scream five, Like it took Scream

2246
02:06:33.079 --> 02:06:40.000
five's entire structure and redid it and really pointed out

2247
02:06:40.000 --> 02:06:43.760
how not very good Scream five is. Oh wow, because

2248
02:06:43.760 --> 02:06:45.560
when I heard people complaining about it, I was like,

2249
02:06:45.600 --> 02:06:48.119
most of your complaints are actually problems Scream five had

2250
02:06:48.279 --> 02:06:51.119
with like the way it introduced and killed characters and stuff.

2251
02:06:51.119 --> 02:06:55.079
It just didn't work super well. But it was fine.

2252
02:06:55.119 --> 02:06:56.760
If you love scary movie, you should go see it

2253
02:06:56.760 --> 02:06:58.359
because you'll get a laugh out of it, and you'll

2254
02:06:58.479 --> 02:07:00.800
and you'll you'll like, hah, I remember that was funny

2255
02:07:00.800 --> 02:07:05.520
before my back really hurts. I have a mortgage. Is

2256
02:07:06.479 --> 02:07:09.039
there low sodium options at dinner tonight? You know that

2257
02:07:09.119 --> 02:07:12.359
kind of thing? But uh, but I did. I had

2258
02:07:12.359 --> 02:07:14.920
fun with it. I was not a huge scary movie

2259
02:07:14.920 --> 02:07:16.640
fan as a kid, but I liked it fine. I

2260
02:07:16.640 --> 02:07:20.560
thought it was funny. As far as straight up horror movie.

2261
02:07:20.600 --> 02:07:24.560
I saw Passenger, which was a film about haunted roads,

2262
02:07:24.640 --> 02:07:26.920
basically about the idea that there are ghosts that just

2263
02:07:27.000 --> 02:07:30.359
live on roads in general, and like if you're on

2264
02:07:30.439 --> 02:07:33.119
quiet roads, at night, like you never stop like ever,

2265
02:07:33.479 --> 02:07:37.079
because you can welcome this spirit. It had some really

2266
02:07:37.079 --> 02:07:41.560
cool stuff, like it used hobo markings. Oh yeah, that's

2267
02:07:41.600 --> 02:07:43.279
a major part of it is that there are hobo

2268
02:07:43.359 --> 02:07:47.000
markings because they realized that this thing, this symbol left

2269
02:07:47.039 --> 02:07:50.319
on cars. It looks like three claws scratching, but it's

2270
02:07:50.359 --> 02:07:54.079
actually the symbol for not a safe place from hobos.

2271
02:07:55.079 --> 02:07:56.680
It had all these cool things like they're meeting with

2272
02:07:56.760 --> 02:07:58.920
like caravanners and people who live on the road, and

2273
02:07:58.960 --> 02:08:02.079
somebody even says, like you stopped, and they're like, yeah,

2274
02:08:02.159 --> 02:08:04.159
it's like you never stop on a quiet road at

2275
02:08:04.239 --> 02:08:07.399
night ever, you just don't. And I just love the

2276
02:08:07.439 --> 02:08:10.399
idea that like all these like vagabonds know this stuff,

2277
02:08:10.960 --> 02:08:13.560
like they're like, no, there's spirits. And I also thought

2278
02:08:13.560 --> 02:08:16.279
it was really cool because it's just a perfect little

2279
02:08:16.319 --> 02:08:19.600
supernatural horror movie. I mean, it's just fun and creepy.

2280
02:08:20.039 --> 02:08:23.399
But one of my favorite elements was when they're fighting

2281
02:08:23.399 --> 02:08:26.560
off the monster at one point. The thing that gets

2282
02:08:26.560 --> 02:08:29.920
it to like break away from them is the there's

2283
02:08:29.960 --> 02:08:32.319
a Oh that's the other thing about the movie. There's

2284
02:08:32.319 --> 02:08:34.680
a husband and wife or a boyfriend and girlfriend and

2285
02:08:34.720 --> 02:08:36.960
they're doing van life. Like they're living in a van

2286
02:08:37.039 --> 02:08:39.039
and traveling and everything, and I realized, this is the

2287
02:08:39.039 --> 02:08:41.359
first horror movie I'm aware of that has van life

2288
02:08:41.359 --> 02:08:43.319
in it, and I couldn't believe there hadn't been one yet.

2289
02:08:43.600 --> 02:08:44.079
Yeah. Wow.

2290
02:08:44.119 --> 02:08:46.079
So they're like living in the van and driving around.

2291
02:08:46.199 --> 02:08:50.600
But he's Catholic and he has a Saint Christopher, the

2292
02:08:50.640 --> 02:08:54.119
patron Saint of travelers, and it like burns the demon away,

2293
02:08:54.720 --> 02:08:57.279
and then as we kind of learn what is going on,

2294
02:08:57.359 --> 02:09:02.520
it basically turns out it's like the evil Antie sat Christopher. Oh, Like,

2295
02:09:02.600 --> 02:09:06.359
it's like the opposite. It's the demon of travelers versus

2296
02:09:06.439 --> 02:09:08.520
the patron Saint. It was just kind of cool and

2297
02:09:08.560 --> 02:09:12.279
fun and very like exorcisty in that way. So I

2298
02:09:12.279 --> 02:09:13.800
had fun with it. And then I saw the Death

2299
02:09:13.800 --> 02:09:17.039
of Robin Hood, which is not really a horror movie,

2300
02:09:17.079 --> 02:09:21.920
but it was really really good. No one is really

2301
02:09:21.960 --> 02:09:24.720
seeing it, and that's fine. It kind of came out

2302
02:09:25.159 --> 02:09:28.359
not a lot of fanfare, but I loved it. I

2303
02:09:28.399 --> 02:09:31.439
thought it was super good. That director his name is

2304
02:09:31.560 --> 02:09:33.399
escaping me right now, but he did the movie Pig,

2305
02:09:33.479 --> 02:09:35.720
which I loved, and he did Quiet Place Day One,

2306
02:09:35.760 --> 02:09:38.600
which I also loved. He has a superpower of making

2307
02:09:38.640 --> 02:09:40.560
a pretty good movie. And then the last twenty minutes,

2308
02:09:40.560 --> 02:09:42.600
your jaw is just on the floor. It's so good.

2309
02:09:44.159 --> 02:09:45.479
Because I was watching, I was like, yeah, this is

2310
02:09:45.479 --> 02:09:46.840
pretty good. And then in the last twenty minutes, I

2311
02:09:46.880 --> 02:09:47.920
was like, this is one of the best movies I've

2312
02:09:47.960 --> 02:09:50.840
seen this year. Holy crap. Like it's when the cards

2313
02:09:50.840 --> 02:09:53.720
are down and characters are reaching whatever the end of

2314
02:09:53.720 --> 02:09:56.640
their arcs are, he just pulls every stop out and

2315
02:09:56.680 --> 02:10:00.479
makes it so emotional and powerful and good.

2316
02:10:00.880 --> 02:10:01.199
Cool.

2317
02:10:01.520 --> 02:10:04.479
So anyway, so those are the films I saw in

2318
02:10:04.520 --> 02:10:08.359
the theater. Chell, tell us about the scariest Reddit post

2319
02:10:08.439 --> 02:10:11.920
you've ever encountered in your life. No, so, okay, then

2320
02:10:11.920 --> 02:10:12.760
tell us a different one.

2321
02:10:12.880 --> 02:10:16.159
Okay, good, So I had I was having some trouble

2322
02:10:16.880 --> 02:10:20.840
because I'm not it's not a good month. But anyway,

2323
02:10:21.479 --> 02:10:28.760
So there's this person and they basically her family, her

2324
02:10:28.920 --> 02:10:33.079
her mom, and her grandma just we're gonna move to

2325
02:10:33.119 --> 02:10:35.479
a new house. And one of the reasons that they

2326
02:10:35.560 --> 02:10:37.359
bought the house is because it had like a big

2327
02:10:37.399 --> 02:10:41.079
finished basement. So the poster was like, I'm gonna live

2328
02:10:41.680 --> 02:10:43.840
live in the basement, Like there's a separate living area

2329
02:10:43.880 --> 02:10:46.079
in a bedroom and then the mom and the grandma.

2330
02:10:46.279 --> 02:10:49.119
The the grandma is has like the master and the

2331
02:10:49.159 --> 02:10:51.640
mom has just one of the other bedrooms, the three bedrooms.

2332
02:10:51.720 --> 02:10:56.560
There's three bedrooms upstairs. Cool, everything's good, whatever, Yeah, I

2333
02:10:56.560 --> 02:11:01.279
guess go on. They they go, oh, I think her

2334
02:11:01.279 --> 02:11:03.479
and her mom. I don't think her grandma came. They like,

2335
02:11:03.520 --> 02:11:09.159
go on a trip somewhere, come back. The basement is gone.

2336
02:11:09.359 --> 02:11:13.439
And they're both like, why is there no basement? Oh? Wait, no, no, no, no.

2337
02:11:13.720 --> 02:11:15.640
Her mom is like, there's never been a basement. But

2338
02:11:15.680 --> 02:11:18.039
she's like, but I lived in the basement. But her

2339
02:11:18.039 --> 02:11:23.000
grandma's like, I'm pretty sure there was a basement. And

2340
02:11:23.000 --> 02:11:26.000
and the grandma doesn't live in the master bedroom anymore.

2341
02:11:26.439 --> 02:11:29.880
The poster does and she's like, I don't and like

2342
02:11:29.960 --> 02:11:32.119
all her posters are up and stuff, so like it's

2343
02:11:32.119 --> 02:11:35.800
her bedroom. But she's like, but there was always a basement,

2344
02:11:35.880 --> 02:11:38.560
and I don't understand. And they called, like the realtor,

2345
02:11:38.600 --> 02:11:42.479
and the realtor's like, no, there's no basement in that house.

2346
02:11:43.079 --> 02:11:47.119
So she's like, what's going on. That's that's what happens.

2347
02:11:47.880 --> 02:11:52.800
Yeah, that one. That one's tough. I mean to make

2348
02:11:52.800 --> 02:11:54.560
an argument about what what he got.

2349
02:11:54.880 --> 02:11:57.640
Well, then two days later she posted she edited it

2350
02:11:57.680 --> 02:12:00.199
and she said, we had a gas leak. So well,

2351
02:12:00.479 --> 02:12:05.479
if that's true, they had a gas Like if not,

2352
02:12:05.640 --> 02:12:06.760
none of that was real.

2353
02:12:07.159 --> 02:12:10.720
Sounds like a classic gas leak I mean scenario.

2354
02:12:11.600 --> 02:12:16.079
I mean, yeah, it's now people were talking about like

2355
02:12:16.199 --> 02:12:18.319
a couple of years ago where there was someone who

2356
02:12:18.359 --> 02:12:22.880
was like, there was a closet, but the closet is gone,

2357
02:12:22.920 --> 02:12:25.119
it's not a closet anymore, and there's always this closet

2358
02:12:25.159 --> 02:12:28.119
here and I can't find the closet anymore. And then

2359
02:12:28.199 --> 02:12:30.199
they posted like two days later like I have a

2360
02:12:30.199 --> 02:12:34.439
brain tumor so like yeah, so they were comparing it

2361
02:12:34.479 --> 02:12:37.079
to that one. So if you think things have changed

2362
02:12:37.319 --> 02:12:41.239
a lot, you might have something seriously wrong with you.

2363
02:12:41.960 --> 02:12:44.760
Yeah. Well, I mean because we've all had like moments

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where memories are vaguely like mildly wrong and then we

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just kind of correct it. We'll just kind of be like, oh,

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I thought this was like you know, I thought we

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had I thought this place had a two gargarage, Like no,

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obviously it didn't. Like you've lived here, like you know,

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there's no two gargarage. Just for some reason your brain flipped,

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you know, like crossed a wire and for a second

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you just thought of a different garage for some reason,

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you know, because brains are complicated. Yeah, but we usually

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just go, oh, yeah, that was just a whoops, no,

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like we were done. But if you were like suffering

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from a brain tumor, or you were being poisoned by

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a gas leak, it can be harder to differentiate those things.

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It can be harder to correct. You know, you're just

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going to keep kind of spiraling off. I guess. Yeah.

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That is My favorite Reddit trope is the whole like,

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uh have do you have a carbon monoxide detector? I've

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always found that funny but also incredibly useful.

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Yeah it is because it's it's really happened where people

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have lived in a house and thought that something was

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really really fucked up happening, and it turned out they

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were just being exposed to carbon monoxide.

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So yeah, I mean, I'll be that way when I'm

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really stressed out, but it'll be like about like no,

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I'll well, I'll just think something for sure was there

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02:13:59.199 --> 02:14:01.560
and then I have to realie I like nope, or

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like you know, like I'll wake up in the morning,

2391
02:14:03.039 --> 02:14:04.600
and I'll be like, oh, yeah, obviously, why was I

2392
02:14:04.640 --> 02:14:07.640
looking for tob larone? I never bought a toblarone. Why

2393
02:14:07.680 --> 02:14:09.479
would there be to blarone in the house? You know,

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Like I mean, they're little things that don't like drive

2395
02:14:12.039 --> 02:14:14.119
you crazy. They're just like little moments where you're like

2396
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I thought I did, Yeah, well whatever, back to my life.

2397
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Maybe I just live too stressed out. You did acknowledge

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I live under pressure, which I appreciate.

2399
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I know you don't need a carbon monoxide detector because

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you don't have any gas in your house at all? Uh,

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I mean no, that's not your Yeah, your furnace.

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And yeah, oh natural gas. Check your carbon and I

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02:14:40.319 --> 02:14:43.640
have a carbon monoxide detector, is it okay?

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02:14:43.720 --> 02:14:45.720
Has it been there for more than ten years?

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Not for ten years? No, it's been there for two

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and a half.

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Do you change the batteries every.

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Year it's plugged in?

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Do you change the batteries and the plug in thing?

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02:14:59.880 --> 02:15:04.479
Uh? Now, I'm gonna check because you're making me nervous. Sorry. See.

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Then I'll be like, but I my carbonoxide detector doesn't

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02:15:07.680 --> 02:15:09.479
have batteries. Then I'm gonna look at it and it'll take batteries,

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02:15:09.520 --> 02:15:11.359
and I'll be like, what not, I guess it's not

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02:15:11.399 --> 02:15:13.880
working because I didn't remember it.

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Hasn't been on in years because it was about the batteries.

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02:15:20.439 --> 02:15:23.560
Well, thank you Chell for taking us through another creepy

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brain tumory reddit experience. Yeah, and I want to thank

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hide until then, I guess, or at least tell, I'm

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stuck in front of a microphone every day, but Cell,

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I'm giving you the last word, specifically about deep sea creatures.

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Cute,