May 25, 2026

Monthly Spooky | Cryptid Horror & Paranormal Mysteries Declassified

Monthly Spooky | Cryptid Horror & Paranormal Mysteries Declassified
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Monthly Spooky: Weird News, Haunting Stories, And Urban Legends

Key Takeaways

  • The USS Indianapolis tragedy recounts its secret mission, devastating attack, and the survivors' harrowing ordeal with sharks and exposure.
  • The Loveland Frogman segment revisits Ohio's quirky and enduring cryptid legend.
  • Newly declassified UFO files and government reports are explored, questioning the accessibility of extraterrestrial truth.
  • The episode also covers an ancient burial jar discovery, a coyote's swim to Alcatraz, a celebrity poltergeist story, and reflections on horror culture.
  • The focus is on the intersection of historical facts, supernatural folklore, and paranormal phenomena.

Cryptid horror collides with declassified paranormal mysteries this May. Henrique and Michelle examine newly released UFO files, Ohio's notorious Loveland Frogman sightings, and the USS Indianapolis—where documented naval tragedy intertwines with unexplained phenomena. A Memorial Day deep dive into weird experiences that shaped history, blurring the line between declassified fact and supernatural folklore.

Inside this episode:
• USS Indianapolis and the real horror of war — A Memorial Day deep dive into the legendary World War II cruiser, its secret mission, the torpedo attack that sent hundreds of men into the ocean, the days of thirst, exposure, shark attacks, and the heartbreaking aftermath that followed.
• The Loveland Frogman returns — Ohio’s own cryptid gets another look as the episode digs into the weird, funny, and strangely persistent legend of the Loveland Frogman, one of the Buckeye State’s most beloved monster stories.
• Newly declassified UFO files — The hosts explore strange government UFO reports, Pentagon files, and the eternal question of whether the truth is out there… or buried under paperwork.
• A mysterious ancient burial jar discovery — A strange archaeological find brings a morbid dose of death, history, and mystery to the spooky news lineup.
• A coyote swims to Alcatraz — Nature gets weird as a coyote makes an unbelievable journey across the water to one of America’s most infamous prison islands.
• A celebrity poltergeist story — A bizarre haunting report leads into talk of ghosts, exorcisms, and the strange way paranormal stories still grab headlines.
• Cinema Wasteland, episode 400, and horror culture nostalgia — Henrique and Michelle reflect on a long-running cult movie convention coming to an end, the changing world of physical media and horror fandom, and what it felt like to create a major paranormal radio-style episode of Weekly Spooky.

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Frequently Asked Questions

What is the story behind the USS Indianapolis?

The episode details the USS Indianapolis's secret World War II mission, the torpedo attack that sank it, and the subsequent days of unimaginable horror for the survivors in the ocean, including shark attacks and exposure.

What are the key elements of the Loveland Frogman legend?

The Loveland Frogman legend is a persistent and peculiar cryptid story from Ohio, exploring its unique history and status as a beloved local monster tale.

What do declassified UFO files reveal according to the episode?

The hosts discuss recently declassified government UFO reports and Pentagon files, prompting reflection on whether the truth about extraterrestrial phenomena is accessible or hidden.

Besides the USS Indianapolis, Loveland Frogman, and UFOs, what other spooky topics are covered?

The episode also includes a strange ancient burial jar discovery, an unusual coyote swim to Alcatraz, a celebrity poltergeist story, and a nostalgic look at horror culture and cult movie conventions.

What is the overarching theme connecting the USS Indianapolis, Loveland Frogman, and UFOs?

The episode explores how documented tragedies, persistent cryptid legends, and government secrets surrounding UFOs blur the lines between historical fact and supernatural folklore, creating a blend of paranormal mysteries and historical horror.

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The Loveland Frogmy goes official ancient death jars from an

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unknown people, a beast crawling onto the shores of Alcatraz,

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and hungry sharks on every side of you. Get comfortable,

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turn off the lights.

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It's Monthly Spooky.

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Welcome back, my spookies. It is indeed that time of

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the month. It's time for Monthly Spooky. I'm, of course

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your host Enrique Kuto here with my good buddy and

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co host Michelle Michelle.

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How are you?

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I don't know, but just thanks.

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Think everybody skip me go to the next Michelle did

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what I call it, which is where, right before you

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start doing something, she tells you something really really sad.

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Then you have to like go about your business.

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Yeah. I mean I couldn't tell you guys it because

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it's too sad.

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It's way too sad.

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And it's not well I mean, it's not spooky in

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that spooky way. Yeah, it's more scary in that scary way. Yes,

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that's what I think anyway. Okay, but how are you

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Other than the devastating like things that you tell me

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when we're not recording.

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I don't know, it's been stressful.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I uh I've had kind of

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a nutty week as well. My like home away from

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Home convention, my movie convention that like basically raised me

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that I've been going to since I was thirteen years old,

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announced that they're shuttering their doors. That's it, there's no

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more con Yeah. And I it was called Cinema Wasteland.

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I always I love Wasteland. I had a very complicated

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relationship with it, which I feel like you have with

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anything you've been You've been around for twenty five ish

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years or whatever it was, and I knew it was

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winding down, but I wasn't expecting them to say, hey,

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last month's show, that was the last show. Peace out.

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I thought, after how the show, the prior show had

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not been very well attended, I kind of thought it

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was going they were going to be like, well, we're

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doing the go away Wasteland show, like we're going to

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do a go away Because I do think if they

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had announced, like, hey, this is the last one, they

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would have had a boost and intendance for that last one.

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in that way. But I also get it. I mean,

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they've been doing it for twenty five years or so,

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or it's more than that. I think it's a lot.

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they want to chill out on it, that's fine. But

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it you know, it did a few things. It made

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me feel old, which is always fun. It made me

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nostalgic because the last few shows were really the last

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five shows were really weird for me because I would

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have less and less physical media to sell. But physical

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media sells less and less in general, you know, movies, DVDs,

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blu rays, so. But also when I first started doing conventions,

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like every penny was so vital and needed every dime

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to survive, and then one day i would be stressing

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out at a show and I'd realize, oh, like this

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is like very little of my income, Like this is

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a drop in the bucket compared to like streaming revenue

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and then eventually podcasting revenue and things like that. So

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then I had to try to like rework the show

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as a fun thing I do that earns a little

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bit of money but also gets the word out and

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I get to be around all my friends because I've

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been doing that show so long. There are people I've known,

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you know, more than half my life that I only

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see there twice a year, so it's odd. It is,

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it's an odd feeling, so it made me kind of sad.

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And then also on top of that, we had the

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big drop last Wednesday of episode four hundred of Weekly Spooky,

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which I'm very very very proud of, and We've gotten

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so much awesome feedback and comments and I'm floored by

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everybody's reaction. And if you haven't listened to it yet,

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I really recommend you do episode four hundred final broadcast. Basically,

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what I did was I created, I like did a

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recreation of a paranormal talk radio AM show, but with

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a big twist and a bunch of things happening. And

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it was awesome because it kind of had like it

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kind of filled like a fantasy of mine, which is

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of being that person, that radio late night radio person.

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It was a really cool experience. And my buddy Dwayne Whittaker,

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who people may know from pulp fiction, Devil's Rejects, from

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Dusk Till Dawn, Texas, Blood Money, I mean, he's been

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in a ton of great movies, he guest starred on it,

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which was also just really really cool because I had

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one role that I needed to be like super, super

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intense and honest and phenomenally performed. And Dwayne is a

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consummate actor and he teaches actors at this time, at

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this point in his career, he's a teacher as well

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as a character actor. So I just I was like,

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you know what, why don't I do something I've never

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done before and just pick up the phone and call

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literally the best actor I have the phone number of

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and just ask.

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So I did and it turned out awesome, and he

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was fascinated by the whole process because he's a caller.

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got to figure out how am I going to do

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that record that. I was like, oh no, no, You're

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just gonna call me on the phone and I'll just

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we'll just do the scene and we'll you know, work

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through it. And he was like cool, yeah.

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So when I called, he was like, let me just

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and we only had one take get blown because like

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a big truck, you know, like did that thing where

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they were really loud for a second, like changing gears

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or whatever. It's called I'm not changing. They do a thing.

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I forget what it's called. And a buddy I used

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to live with a buddy or no, I used to

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work on a film with a buddy who he knew

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that sound like. He worked with trucks, and he would

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say like, because I would say, it's that an airplane.

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Big Now it's a truck doing something or other. It's

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it involves like shift. It's like shifting in some weird

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way or something. I don't I don't know, but but

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it was a really cool experience and I'm glad everybody

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enjoyed it, But yeah, it was. It was interesting getting

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to kind of live that fantasy a little bit because

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I had been toying with the idea of doing like

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a paranormal am radio style show but not real, you know,

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like but it was a narrative for a while, but

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I could never come up with anything that's stuck. Of course,

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originally I wanted it to be an ongoing thing too,

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so it was kind of interesting to wind up there.

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And I want to say an extra special thank you

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to you, Michelle, because you were kind enough to be

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reading the pages of the script as I was writing them,

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which really helped to have that immediate feedback.

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Oh well, that's nice that you think that I had.

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I contributed it something.

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I think you also listened to it right when it

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was done too.

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Yeah, I did well. I was pulling weeds outside.

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I mean that's a way to do it.

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So before we take a break and get into the news,

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that's something I want to mention real quick. Whenever somebody

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goes I've noticed this that often when people go into

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a field or an art form or whatever, they have

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like they have like something that they kind of dreamed

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about doing in it. But you know, but then either

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I mean, and it's not like your dreams are crushed

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kind of thing, but it's like, you know, as time

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goes on, it's like, well that doesn't really make sense

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given what I'm what I do or how I do it,

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or YadA, YadA YadA. My favorite example of that is

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that there's a long standing joke that all rock stars

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want to be comedians and all comedians want.

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To be rock stars.

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the mic and they start telling jokes. You put a

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comedian on the mic and they try to like get

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the crowd all amped up, and you're like, what the

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hell do you have any of that? Did you have

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like any ways you wanted to be or things you

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really looked up to that you thought you were going

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to do specifically in the arts or performance or anything

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that that, or were you just always I mean you're

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kind of a space alien already.

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I don't know. I mean there's probably a lot of

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things actually, just tons and tons of them. Yeah.

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Yeah I thought that was cool. No, I didn't know.

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I like be on the radio, yeah, well yes, yes, oh,

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but then also have play and then also like have

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an a song on the radio as well, of course.

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for some reason I thought you were like, Nope, what

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I want is what I want. I'm completely unphased by

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the outside world.

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actually because a lot of times I don't even know. Yeah, no,

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I don't really know what i want. I'm just doing

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the things.

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For the most part, I think we're all kind of

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doing that.

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Yeah, so I don't know. Now I feel self conscious

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and confus good.

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That's actually what it's supposed to do, especially when you

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bring up like, what's the thing you always kind of

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wanted to do when you're already doing the things you

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wanted that you're doing, you know what I mean to

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be like, oh, well, you know if I had, because

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I'm one of the big ones that I never got

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to do was be that like voice on AM radio.

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I always thought that would be really cool, you know,

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to be that AM radio guy because I used to

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listen to AM radio when I was a kid, and

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not just Coast to coast. Ironically enough, I was really

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into listening to the Truck and Bozo. He was a

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truck a truck driving show based out of Cincinnati, and

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I didn't know that that show ended up going like

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national and he got like he got inducted into the

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Broadcaster Hall of Fame and stuff. So like it was,

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it was actually like a big show. I had no

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idea because he ran it kind of different, you know.

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kind of reckless and everybody's kind of insane, but what

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a charm it has. So yeah, that was kind of mine,

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of those things that doesn't make any sense in my brain,

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Dark Knights or for my CD compilations. I can't like

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like this should just be the podcast. But I mean

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to this day, you know, people will hear I have

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a podcast and like, oh, can I be a guest?

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like we don't. We don't do that at all. And

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so old because the term podcast was originally about the technology.

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podcast technology, the RSS feed, and the YadA YadA YadA.

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I have done a great job of making sure nobody

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will stick around for the next part by talking about

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dirty junk. But when we come back, we're going to

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USS Indianapolis.

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What was it doing?

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Well? It sinks, but that's only half the story. You've

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never heard of the USS Indianapolis.

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I probably have. There are a lot of ships that

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country or cities or states and shit, I.

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Don't know, jeez, cell Okay, Well, did you ever see Jaws?

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M Oh my god? How did you not see Jaws?

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I don't know Jaws?

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I guess do you remember the scene where he tells

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the story while they're in the at night? No, you're

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a jerk. Sorry, I think you're just doing this to

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be mean.

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We're back, and now it's time for the spooky news.

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The spooky news. This first one involves my home state

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of Ohio. Oh, you don't want to you don't. You

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don't have a problem with that, do you?

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No? I guess it's fine whatever.

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Gosh, I feel like the only reason you want to

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hate on Ohio is because Ohio is nice to you.

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Ohio has also not been nice to me too, so.

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M more more, is it really even though?

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No, it's not really even.

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Yeah that's what I thought. Really just Columbus was.

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Lame, right, No, I meant I've had I had problems

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in Dayton. You know the song?

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fair, that's fair, well, fair enough.

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I'm sorry my friendship couldn't combat the stranger's rudeness from

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a car.

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It was really rude.

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It is rude. I mean I've literally had people yell

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stuff like that at me when I'm oh years ago,

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like twenty years ago, but still.

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Anyway, this headlines from statenews dot org, and it reads,

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move over, Bigfoot, there's a move afoot to make the

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Frogman the official state cryptid.

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I didn't know you guys had a frogman.

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The Loveland Frogman has been exploding in popularity.

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Have you heard the term Loveland frogmen and just didn't

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know Loveland was in Ohio?

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I think so like that sounds familiar.

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Yeah, yeah, Loveland's actually not far from here. Oh yeah,

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and and frogman is like exploding in popularity. It's been

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fascinating to witness West Virginia has the Mothman Michigan has

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the dog Man, and Ohio has the Frogman and Bigfoot

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and the lake Erie monster Bessie. What Ohio doesn't have

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is an official state cryptid, but that may soon change.

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While it may not be real, how do you know

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Representative Jeene Schmidt, Republican Loveland and Representative Tristan Raider, Democrat,

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Lakewood are talking about the frogmen. Frogmen is bringing the

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political parties together.

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Exactly what I was gonna say.

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Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah, good work, guys. Quote legend has

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it there's a frog the size of a man that

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haunts or visits the Loveland area, Raiders said. Some say

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it's a little shorter, around four feet tall. Still a

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pretty big.

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Frog, don't you think, I mean, I guess.

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Oh, you feel like it's not even worth being encrypted

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if it's only four feet tall.

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It's just a just a large frog.

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So that ain't no frog man. There's a frog, but

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Schmid said in twenty sixteen, a police officer spotted it,

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and a couple weeks later, quote another police officer spotted

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the same thing along the river and shot and killed it.

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To continue the quote, the myth never died because people

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say they've seen it. Yeah, where's the body?

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Where's the body?

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Where's the body?

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Also? Did they have body cams on? Can I see it?

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This is twenty sixteen, so that's probably not likely.

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Have to look it up. Was a frogman killed? Why

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did it auto fill? Indeed? Ohio? Oh oh gosh, it

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was a I looked at frogmen and it thinks I

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mean people who are like in the Navy seals. Oh wait,

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so the original nineteen seventy two police report. Oh okay,

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So in twenty sixteen, okay, so in twenty sixteen, the

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nineteen seventy two report came out.

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Oh whatever, So the frog's probably been dead for like

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thirty years.

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Well, assuming there's only one and it's.

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Not frog men, just a really frock.

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Hold on, I gotta make sure I'm not getting okay. So,

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according to Wikipedia, which is only vaguely more possibly trustworthy

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than Google, after the incident, it was identified that the

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creature here that the cop shot was a large iguana

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missing its tail. I mean, I like iguanas. I feel

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bad for the iguana, but I understand why the cop

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may have been startled. In nineteen seventy two when an

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out of context iguana was just on the loose.

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Yeah. Yeah, We're not supposed to kill things just because

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we don't understand them.

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No, we're supposed to kill them because they're invasive.

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Well, I don't think iguanas can survive in Ohio.

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recognized it was an iguana, hence why he thought it

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was a frogman of some sort. Okay, whatever, I'm just

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saying to you. I'm just this is all speculation, because

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that's all we have in the realm of cryptids, you know,

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is some good fun speculation. Oh ok. Another police officer

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spoted the same thing. I guess he was referring to

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back in the past kind of quote. The bipod partisan

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lawmakers said frogman has become a Loveland legend. Loveland legend. Quote,

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it's become such a myth and legend that they are

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now even a festival dedicated to Frogman raiders, said Schmid said.

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It's a huge draw and attracts of vendors who make

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fun events for families. Quote. They sell knickknacks and things,

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and they have little parades for kids and stuff. I

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love quotes because they really point out how when we're

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speaking casually, we do not speak improper sentences at all. Yeah,

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and it's easy to not realize, is that because you're

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just talking all of this for a mythical creature. And

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while Kermit the Frog might think it's not easy being

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green great coffee, Raiders said, frogman has brought in the

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green got worse quote. What is real? What is real

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is the tourism dollars they bring to our state and

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the economic activity that stimulates our economy. Here, Raider said,

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so real quick, is it tourist or tourist? How do

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you say tourist?

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I don't know without saying and I'm scared tourist. I

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don't know tourist, tourist.

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I actually so, I say tourist, but if I am

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in them, you look like you're losing it. But if

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I'm speaking at a like a long thing like just now,

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it's very easy for me to say tourist and instead

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because it flows very well, a tourist. But I like,

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I wouldn't say, oh, you know, that is a tourist.

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I would say, oh, that is a tourist. But if

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I was like as the people were heading out into

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blah bla blah blah blah blah. Realizing this was a

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tourist destination that they would like to be at, it

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just kind of comes out as tourists instead a tourists.

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Yeah. I don't know what I say, and now I'm

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never going to know because I'm always going to be

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thinking about it every time I talk.

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It's like when you realize you can choose to breathe

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or not, but you know, if you stop thinking about it,

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you'll breathe anyway.

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Yeah, yeah, but you're not.

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Just have to try not to think about it.

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You can't. Now I have to think about breathing for

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the rest of the show.

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Good good, good quote. Wait, Schmidt said her favorite ice

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cream joint even got in on the Frogman Follies quote.

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I was getting my shake and I noticed they have

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a Frogman Sunday, Schmidt said, noting it was part of

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a contest between ice creams named after various cryptids.

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Wow, that's weird. I can't imagine they taste good. I mean,

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I'm sure they do, but like if we're really going

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to be in the spirit of what a crypton would

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taste like, I.

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Mean, if you ever had frog because frog is.

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Delicious, you know, I'm I don't know, I'm I don't

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think so frog is very good ice cream frogs.

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Well, I mean I would eat frog ice cream, but

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that's because I just like frog. But I imagine Frogman would

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be much like the coconut crab. Not coconut crab, Yeah,

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coconut crab, which is the giant crabs like that look

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like they're like frigging the size of dogs. Okay, they

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taste awful, like they're like that's how cruel nature is that.

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It's like, we'll give you a crab that big and

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then it doesn't cook up good. Yeah, that's so cruel

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because literally I want like a crab leg the size

449
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:58.000
of like three fingers, like I want that. I want

450
00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:02.359
to crack that open and h But no, no, nature

451
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:07.119
is cruel. So I bet the frogmen wouldn't even taste good. Yeah. So,

452
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:09.640
since Frogmen is such a big deal, the lawmakers have

453
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:11.759
united in a bypart as an effort to make Frogman

454
00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:15.119
the states official cryptid. But Mike Polk, a comedian and

455
00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:19.880
commentator on WKYCTV in Cleveland, said there could be some

456
00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:23.240
big competition. Quote, I think it should be up to

457
00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:25.960
the people. He joked, I don't think that should be

458
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:30.240
done in smoke filled back rooms. I love that this

459
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:34.160
shouldn't be decided by a bunch of old white men. Yeah,

460
00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:36.839
a woman, apparently, I think is one of those. I

461
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:40.559
should know some of my representatives, but I don't, and

462
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:44.960
I'll keep it that way. That's because in northern Ohio,

463
00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:51.319
Polk said, many people back a different crypti Bigfoot. I mean,

464
00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:53.640
we've had a lot of Bigfoot sightings in that part

465
00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:56.759
of Ohio very recently, like in the last month or two.

466
00:25:58.160 --> 00:25:58.680
A lot.

467
00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:01.720
Oh yeah, Like, oh, I shock, I'm shocked you haven't

468
00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:04.319
heard about it. Like, well, we did cover it last

469
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:07.599
month that there were like five, five or six major

470
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:09.119
sidings all in one cluster.

471
00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:10.759
Okay, yeah, sure.

472
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:15.160
Quote you might have heard we were swamped in about

473
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:17.960
mid March with the number of Bigfoot sidings, Polk said,

474
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:21.039
I think there were seven within five days, mostly in

475
00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:24.759
the Portage County area and in Mantua area. It's uh

476
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.559
and into the woods around that. See there you go.

477
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:28.880
Fine.

478
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:34.440
Quote, Ohio has the fourth most sightings of Bigfoot of

479
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.839
all the fifty states, after California, Washington, and Florida.

480
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:39.400
Huh.

481
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:43.519
Interesting so California and Florida I would write off as

482
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:48.039
just being highly like, highly densely populated states like although

483
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:50.880
up surprised Jersey isn't in there, but uh like I'm

484
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.759
just saying, like, I get why they're like the most,

485
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:54.359
is my point.

486
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:55.640
There's a lot of people there, yeah.

487
00:26:55.720 --> 00:27:00.480
Yeah. And then Washington they have those incredible for forests.

488
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:06.039
M hm. So I mean Florida also does have the Everglades,

489
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:09.200
which is oh yeah, without doubt.

490
00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:12.079
So my point is I think Ohio sticks out in

491
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:14.440
that list as being a little bit more of an

492
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:19.880
average place, although I mean, well, Portage County and stuff,

493
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:25.160
eh is beautiful out there. Anyway. If you're wondering why

494
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:28.039
state lawmakers are talking about mythical creatures when there's a

495
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:30.799
public outcry for them to do something about high property

496
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:34.400
taxes and afford to ability issues, Schmidt said, quote I

497
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:36.960
can chew gum and walk at the same time. This

498
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:39.359
is why I don't like politicians.

499
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:41.440
Because they can't chew them and walk at the same time.

500
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.000
No, I've seen them fall. Yeah, She said. Lawmakers are

501
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.160
working on property taxes in capital budget besides, quote, sometimes

502
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:50.240
you got to have a little fun in what you're doing.

503
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:55.160
I disagree your I pay your salary. No fun, Yeah,

504
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:57.400
have fun on your own time. You already don't work

505
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.839
full time. They're off like five months out of the

506
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:01.960
or something something doing.

507
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:03.960
That important stuff. We can talk about crypt is later.

508
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.720
Well, Ohio, that property tax debate is getting contentious. They

509
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:13.000
just announced a new law they're recommending which would like

510
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:16.960
give refunds to people on their property taxes if it's

511
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.480
been too high. And everybody's angry because they're like, oh,

512
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:21.279
this is just them trying to shut up the people

513
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:25.880
who want to completely abolish the property tax. So that

514
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:28.240
made me nervous because I thought the abolishing the property

515
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:29.920
tax thing was over, and now I'm like, I don't know.

516
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.319
They're sounding like they're scared. So maybe it could still happen.

517
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:35.079
Hmmm. I don't.

518
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:37.599
Probably not, but if it does, I'll never let you

519
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:42.839
forget it. No, I'm just saying so. But we're going

520
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:44.599
to take a quick break and we come back. We're

521
00:28:44.640 --> 00:29:01.039
going to talk about UFOs right after this. Wellchell, yes,

522
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:05.119
do you believe the truth is out there?

523
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:11.400
I mean, in a sense, yes, I believe that the

524
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.160
truth is somewhere and that we might could maybe we

525
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.039
could find it. It's definitely, it definitely exists.

526
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.599
In a sense the truth exists.

527
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.039
Yes, it's somewhere.

528
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:25.400
Have you. I don't know if you've been hearing rumbles

529
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.400
about this, but I've been hearing rumbles about this, and

530
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:30.960
I feel bad because it's kind of just become noise

531
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:35.640
over the last like six or seven years. But this

532
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:39.519
is the Guardian dot com. The headline is Pentagon releases

533
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:45.039
first batch of previously secret files documenting reports of UFOs.

534
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.079
Yeah. Yeah, I heard that it happened, and that's and

535
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:49.440
I was like, I'm so busy.

536
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.599
It's like, did we talk about the space launch? How

537
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:55.720
how they had to like market it? I think we

538
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:56.119
might have.

539
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.359
Talked about that, Oh we did. I knew about it, but.

540
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:01.599
I had no idea. But it just blew my mind

541
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:03.279
the idea. It's like somebody was like, we need to

542
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.440
get people to care about human beings going into space

543
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:13.000
past the moon. That's how like, that's how like overstimulated

544
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:15.920
we are as a species that we need we need

545
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:24.000
like great photography to care about a people going into space. Yeah,

546
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:27.039
but they keep releasing these Pentagon files or these UFO

547
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.920
declassified things, and then you'll hear like rumbles from some

548
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:34.759
incurably insane person on the Internet who's been dead for months, saying, like,

549
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.079
you know, they said that aliens are real, or they

550
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.480
said that they have alien bodies, and then you never

551
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:40.160
hear anything else.

552
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.160
Yeah, yeah, because they killed them.

553
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:48.119
Yeah yeah, they went back in time and killed their parents.

554
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:50.680
So now they don't exist, but through a glitch in

555
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.640
the matrix there, reddit account is still there.

556
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:54.240
Yeah, sometimes it happened.

557
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:55.359
Yeah, it's a bummer.

558
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:56.400
Yeah.

559
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.400
The Pentagon on Friday released an initial and an initial

560
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:04.839
group of previously secret files documenting reports of UFOs, a

561
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:09.720
move sought for decades by some quote. These files, hidden

562
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:14.200
behind classifications have long fuel justified speculation, and it's time

563
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.799
the American people see it for themselves, Pete Headseth, the

564
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.160
Defense Secretary, said in a statement posted on x. Among

565
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:24.960
the highlights is Apollo eleven astronaut Buzz Aldrin, the second

566
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.759
man to walk on the Moon, telling a nineteen sixty

567
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:31.839
nine debrief of seeing a quote sizable object close to

568
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:36.279
the lunar surface and a quote fairly bright source the

569
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:42.440
crew felt could be a laser. Okay, I don't know

570
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.799
why he went straight to laser, but yeah, I mean

571
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.440
it could be a laser, like as in like you know,

572
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.720
to detect things or scan things, not a weaponized laser.

573
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:54.759
Yeah, there's all sorts of lasers.

574
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:58.480
Yeah, there's so many kinds of lasers. You know what's

575
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:01.799
funny is I heard I forget. I was listening to

576
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:03.640
something they were talking about how when they were picking

577
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:07.319
the astronauts for Apollo, for who was going to walk

578
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.200
on the moon first, that they didn't pick Neil Armstrong

579
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:14.000
because he was the best or the you know, the smartest,

580
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.519
but because they knew he could handle it. Like the

581
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:19.519
fame Oh okay, that like that. It was because his

582
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.759
personality was such that they felt he would not like

583
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.359
go insane, and you know when he got home and

584
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:28.279
became like one of the most famous human beings to

585
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.720
ever live instantly. And I was like, I don't know.

586
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.039
And then I thought about Buzz Aldrin and I was like, oh, yeah, no,

587
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:36.119
that's good because if Buzz had been that would have

588
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.559
been bad. Because he's gotten into all kinds of trouble.

589
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:43.400
I feel like Neil Armstrong has been chill, you know there.

590
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.599
Do you think do you think the conversation was like

591
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:50.160
Buzz is or not Buzz is like, Neil's pretty calm,

592
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:51.599
he's got a good demeanor. Or do you think the

593
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:55.480
conversation was all right? He is so painfully autistic. This

594
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:58.880
won't even phase him. It's fine, Like he just wants

595
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.279
to talk about rockets.

596
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:03.519
Yeah, I think it was the first one.

597
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.240
Sorry, I'd like to think it was the second one,

598
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:12.039
but fair enough. Alongside numerous written reports, is a collection

599
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.920
of video files from military cameras around the globe. Objects

600
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:19.640
filmed include a football shaped object spotted over East China

601
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.039
Sea in twenty twenty two, and there's footage recorded in

602
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:26.480
the last few years of dots moving erratically and at

603
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:33.480
different speeds over Iraq, Syria, and the United Arid Emirates. Dots, Dots.

604
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:37.279
I've always said, like, dots are what we need to

605
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.640
keep an eye on. Yeah, yeah, that's just my personal opinion.

606
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:41.759
Yeah.

607
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.960
The release follows a directive from Donald Trump in February

608
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.680
for federal agencies to begin identifying, declassifying, and releasing government

609
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:54.000
files related to unidentified flying objects now known as Unidentified

610
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.640
and Anomalous phenomena. It's never going to catch on. Stop

611
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:01.200
trying to make UAPs happen. It's not going to happen.

612
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:03.880
It's UFO or bust. Dude.

613
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:05.920
There are plenty of people that use UAP.

614
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:10.440
Yeah, but that's because they think they're supposed to. Yeah,

615
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:12.760
they're being forced, they're being socially conditioned.

616
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:14.119
Yeah.

617
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:15.760
This would have been a great rant to put into

618
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.000
episode four hundred, Such a great ran for that, just

619
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:25.719
like UAPs that's a syop. That is a syop, and

620
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:29.239
the possibility of alien life beyond Earth. The move, the

621
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.480
US President said at the time, was quote based on

622
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:34.800
tremendous interests shown man even without doing his voice. It's

623
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:40.559
friggin it's the president, tremendous by the public, and reflected

624
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.880
renewed appetite for information about the government's knowledge of and

625
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:49.559
perceived involvement in programs tracking and even housing supposed aliens

626
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:56.400
and their spacecraft. We got nothing about that.

627
00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:58.960
I have a lot of things, and I've decided I'm

628
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:00.400
not going to say any of them.

629
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:03.920
Oh thanks for the heads up, jeezus.

630
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.440
Yeah no, no, I mean, oh, tremendous. All of a sudden,

631
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.559
everyone's like, oh, let's talk. No, this's not happening. But okay,

632
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:15.199
let's just pretend that that's happening. Okay, because obviously When

633
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.039
this all came out, no one even reacted to it.

634
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:24.079
So yeah, yeah, that's that's fair point. Last month, Jared's

635
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:28.239
Jared Isaacman, the new NASA administrator, gave the drive for

636
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:32.119
greater transparency at the agency more credence by stating the

637
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:35.599
Space Agency planned missions to space at least in part

638
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:40.480
because of the possible existence of extraterrestrial alien life forms,

639
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:44.000
and when that didn't improve their television ratings, they knew

640
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:44.679
nothing would.

641
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.880
Yeah yeah, yeah.

642
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.559
Quote. The odds that we will find something at some

643
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:53.480
point to suggest that we are not alone are pretty high,

644
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.039
he told NBC's Beat the Press. I mean higher than

645
00:35:56.079 --> 00:36:00.880
staying in sheboygan. I guess, mm hmm. That's just me though,

646
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:03.239
and I do, like sheboygan, nothing against it.

647
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:08.079
Well, I mean, you don't know. Maybe right place, right time, sheboygan.

648
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:09.960
That's when you find.

649
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:12.639
Out that needs to be the motto on their billboard.

650
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:14.760
Right place, right time, sheboygan.

651
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:16.880
Yeah.

652
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.639
Even so, the first batch of one hundred and sixty

653
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:23.000
two files released on Friday, incorporating hundreds of pages on

654
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:26.840
a monochrome new Defense Department website, offered little new or

655
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:32.440
conclusive evidence. Imagine, yeah, the public the Pentagon statement said

656
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.519
quote can ultimately make up their own minds about the

657
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:40.599
information contained in these files. They include old State Department cables,

658
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:43.599
FBI documents, and transcripts it says.

659
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.280
Cables, sure, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

660
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.800
FBI documents, and transcripts from NASA's crude flights into space.

661
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:55.679
Other pages stretching back decades feature ambiguous eyewitness accounts of

662
00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:01.079
encounters with or alleged sightings of UFOs. For example, one

663
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.519
previous confidential nineteen forty seven report from Air Defense Command

664
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.519
Headquarters in New York features an account by the pilot

665
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:12.000
and navigator of a Pan American World Airways Constellation aircraft,

666
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:16.760
who said they momentarily cited a mystery quote bright orange

667
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:18.360
object in the sky.

668
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.159
That would be nice.

669
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.760
Oh, but you're like, what's an orange object? Is it orange? Oh?

670
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:28.599
Yeah, I'm I'm not sure what that means, but still

671
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.400
I bet it's wonderful whatever it is.

672
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:36.599
The object was visible for only seconds, then disappeared quickly

673
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.760
behind a cloud and was not seen again. The crew

674
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.079
members said, easy, come, easy go.

675
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:43.960
I guess.

676
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.119
So we're going to take a quick break and then

677
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:50.039
we'll talk about some FBI interviews that are more modern

678
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:54.559
involving UFOs and not UAPs, because it's not a thing.

679
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.039
I don't care. You can't make it happen. Right after this,

680
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:09.679
we're back and getting into some of the nitty gritty

681
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:16.159
of these declassified documents, I guess, and whatever cables are?

682
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.400
It said cables in there, and that really confused me.

683
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:22.800
Maybe they were literal cables, and we're just I don't

684
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.519
know why they'd released them, or where they were, how

685
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:26.400
you can get.

686
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:29.599
Them, or why they were unreleased in the first place.

687
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.559
Yes, you know.

688
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.760
The object? Oh, I read that part. A more recent

689
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.559
document details an FBI interview with someone identified as a

690
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:43.440
drone pilot who in September of twenty twenty three reported

691
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:46.599
seeing a linear object with a light bright enough to

692
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:52.880
quote see bands within the light in the sky. Well,

693
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:56.159
if he saw it through a drone, then that makes

694
00:38:56.159 --> 00:39:03.039
sense because cameras do that sometimes, especially with elied lighting. Quote.

695
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:06.159
The object was visible for five to ten seconds, and

696
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:09.719
then the light went out and the object vanished, according

697
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:14.679
to the FBI interview, Okay, Aldron, Ah, we're back to

698
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:18.679
crazy old buzz Aldron. Aldrin, meanwhile, was not the only

699
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:22.360
astronaut to report a strange occurrence. A NASA photograph from

700
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:26.360
the Apollo seventeen mission in nineteen seventy two shows three dots.

701
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.480
We're back to dots, Yeah, dots.

702
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:36.599
In a triangular formation. The Pentagon, in an accompanying caption, said,

703
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:40.320
we have more sides than a triangle. We don't fear it. Oh,

704
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:44.559
that's not what I saying. Quote, there is no consensus

705
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.119
about the nature of the anomaly, but that a new

706
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.199
preliminary analysis indicated that it could be quote a physical object.

707
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.320
I do want to say though, because this pisses me off.

708
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:02.000
Anytime you have three dots, they're basically in a triangle,

709
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:07.800
I don't she Yeah, you're right, So what doesn't mean

710
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:08.599
that much to me?

711
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.440
Yeah, you're right. Yeah, three dots pretty much always makes

712
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:13.039
a triangle.

713
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:17.920
Yeah.

714
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:22.840
I hate when you're right, but you're right. Yeah. Numerous

715
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:27.039
other pages recount similar but unproven accounts of sudden, brief,

716
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:32.000
or unexpected phenomena witnessed in the sky. The Pentagon called

717
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:36.320
it Friday's called Friday's publication of the documents and initial

718
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:40.480
release in partnership with multiple federal entities, including the White House,

719
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:44.239
the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Energy Department,

720
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.840
the FBI and NASA. Why not bring in everybody? You

721
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:49.880
should bring in the parks and wildlife too, why not?

722
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:51.280
Yeah?

723
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:52.360
Yeah, pizza party.

724
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:54.559
Yeah.

725
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:59.000
Quote while all the files have been reviewed, oh wait, sorry,

726
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.679
additional files be released by the Department of War on

727
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:04.960
a rolling basis, the Pentagon said, using the unofficial name

728
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:06.880
of the Defense Department. Why do you even have to

729
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.000
say using the unofficial just like say they said, like, yeah,

730
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.360
we all know this, like all this naming stuff. I

731
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:17.559
just don't care. I just don't care. Like I don't

732
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:19.079
want to. I don't want to. I don't want to

733
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:21.440
support it. I don't want to fight it. I just

734
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.800
don't care. They would call it Department of War neat,

735
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:26.639
I don't care. I really don't care.

736
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.800
So that's okay, But UAP isn't okay?

737
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:35.719
Yes, okay, I am completely consistent on this, okay.

738
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:39.760
Good Also, yes, thought about it for another minute, and

739
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:42.719
you could have three dots in a line and it

740
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.440
wouldn't be a triangle. That's the only other way.

741
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:51.320
Yeah, okay, good, So you weren't totally right, but good

742
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:52.519
on you for realizing that.

743
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:54.000
Yeah, thank you.

744
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:58.239
I'm glad you could share that with all of us.

745
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.480
Quote While all the files have been reviewed for security purposes.

746
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:05.199
Many of the materials have not been yet been analyzed

747
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.559
for resolution of any anomalies. It conceded, despite Friday's hyped release,

748
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.840
the police, the policy of the Defense Department drip feeding

749
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:16.079
information to the public is not new. In twenty twenty four,

750
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:19.360
a Pentagon report concluded there was no evidence of extraterrestrial

751
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:23.920
activity and that most sightings were weather related or misidentified balloons,

752
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:28.039
birds or satellites. That'd be a great name for a band, balloons,

753
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:33.360
birds or satellites. M h, yeah, I like that. Yeah, balloons,

754
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.559
birds or satellites. Thank goodness, they're not still leaning into

755
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.239
the swamp gas thing. That was so such a copy

756
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.639
like lame claim that literally didn't wasn't true. They just

757
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:46.760
were trying to make stuff up to that's where that

758
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:49.960
original trope came from. Could be swamp gas. They were

759
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:56.840
just saying whatever to shut people up. Swamp gas. Which

760
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.599
part the whole thing, all of it, a single part

761
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.480
of it. Lucky. Yeah, I wish I was that smart.

762
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:08.079
No, I'm just I just get the big picture.

763
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:12.480
Damn cell is on one today.

764
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:13.679
Sorry.

765
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:17.000
People love when salty shell rears her head. Oh no,

766
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:22.000
salty cell is on the loose kids. Oh yeah.

767
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:23.400
Oh.

768
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:26.760
Earlier the same year, a separate report published by the

769
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:30.239
All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office said the government was not

770
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:35.239
and never had been, secretly hiding alien technology or extraterrestrial

771
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.360
beings from the public, and that a rumored facility in

772
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:42.320
the New Mexico Desert purportedly housing aliens, alien beings, and

773
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:46.679
spacecraft was a hoax. Okay, but you know you didn't

774
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:48.719
have to. Just the fact that you didn't say Area

775
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:51.199
fifty one when we all know Area fifty one is there,

776
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:55.000
that that doesn't help.

777
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:58.559
Yeah, if it's really not aliens in there, just let

778
00:43:58.639 --> 00:43:59.960
us in, let us in.

779
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.920
Okay. I was, I mean, I wasn't initially going that far,

780
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:03.800
but I'm with you.

781
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:04.440
Yeah.

782
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:08.199
I just didn't like that they said a rumored facility

783
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:10.320
in the New Mexico Desert. It's like, no, Area fifty

784
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:16.480
one is there. Yeah, the Russians took photos of it. Yeah,

785
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:18.719
just saying, I mean Area fifty one is there. I

786
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:22.519
don't think there's probably alien spacecraft there, but they're probably

787
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:23.840
doing other secret stuff.

788
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:26.719
Yeah, let us see it.

789
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.719
I love That's my favorite scene in Independence Day is

790
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:37.199
when when oh gosh, what's his name, the lead actor

791
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:40.159
in Independence Day. I can't believe I'm not remembering his name.

792
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:43.519
You know, the one who hit Chris Rock in front

793
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:44.119
of everybody.

794
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.440
Oh oh oh oh oh Will.

795
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:52.840
Smith, Will Smith, Well, geez, that was that was my

796
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:55.760
worst brain part of the day. Will Smith lands on

797
00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:59.039
his parachute and he beats up the alien and then

798
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.519
he's walking along in all those all those RVs pull

799
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:05.719
up on the big the salt flats and he shows

800
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.280
them the map and he says, like, take us here.

801
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.599
There'll be in a military Air Force base right there

802
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:11.320
that'll take us in. And he was like, there's no

803
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:13.519
base on the map, and he just goes, don't worry,

804
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.320
it's there. I just always thought that was something like

805
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.880
that was some fun, charming moment and don't worry, it's there,

806
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.880
and they'll pull up on Earth fifty one. But also

807
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:24.960
it made it, you know, that worked for me because

808
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:27.000
Area fifty one is so not a secret, even if

809
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:28.159
they're pretending it's a secret.

810
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:29.519
Yeah.

811
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:33.000
It followed a claim by a former US intelligence official

812
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:36.400
and whistleblower, David Grush, that the US government conducted a

813
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:42.280
multi decade secret UFO program that found non human beings. See,

814
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:44.639
that's what I remember people were talking about the most

815
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:49.000
that seemed crazy. I mean, is the guy dead? Is

816
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.480
he dead? Nope? Then I don't think he knew anything.

817
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:58.480
Oh yeah, but that's just me. I'm not much of

818
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:02.400
a conspiracy theorist. I dabble at best. So but we're

819
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.039
gonna take a break and when we get back, we're

820
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:24.159
gonna talk about a death jar. Okay, right after this shell. Yeah,

821
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:25.719
what's your favorite death jar?

822
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:32.079
Oh? I like the one. It's got like like a shape,

823
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:33.599
you know, like these kind of shapes. I don't know

824
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:36.239
how you explain that. The like it's thick and then

825
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.440
it gets bigger at the bottom. And I like it

826
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:40.719
because it's it's like one of those ones that has

827
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:44.480
the like multi colored glass like it looks got little

828
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:45.480
thoughts up blue in it.

829
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.039
You've never seen a death jar before, have you.

830
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:51.719
I don't know what a death jar is.

831
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:54.920
I just wanted you to like me.

832
00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:58.320
I'm just thinking about a pretty jar.

833
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.679
Which I bet major day a little nicer at.

834
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.480
Least, I guess, but I'll really have that jar.

835
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.639
Don't say that you don't know that.

836
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:09.519
I'm pretty sure I do.

837
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.079
We never know what the future holds.

838
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:13.440
I mean I do.

839
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.599
Oh shit, Uh, could you answer some questions I have

840
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:18.360
after the show?

841
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:19.480
I'm not allowed to?

842
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:26.239
Oh man, not again. It's one of those. Fine. This

843
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.199
is from Live Science orlivescience dot com.

844
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:30.519
I don't know which line is.

845
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:35.239
Yeah, the headline is twelve hundred year old. A giant

846
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:43.440
death jar in Laos contains generations of human skeletons. Okay,

847
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:45.880
but what'd you think it was gonna say?

848
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:47.400
Death of death?

849
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:49.719
Oh? Just a death jar full of death.

850
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.280
That's what it sounds like. It's full of so yeah.

851
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:57.559
Death bar, death jar, full of death, death jar, full

852
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:03.480
of death, death jar. They had another good name for

853
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:07.800
a band, death jar. Yeah. The large death jar called

854
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:11.079
Jar one is also the first of its kind on

855
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:16.960
record to contain undisturbed human remains. I meanuntil now, I guess.

856
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:18.159
Yeah.

857
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:22.400
The excavation team reported in a new study thousands of

858
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.679
centuries old death jars have been found in Southeast Asia

859
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.880
over the decades, and while researchers suspected that the vessels

860
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.480
may have been used for burials, there was no solid

861
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:35.920
evidence for that until now.

862
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:36.440
Oh.

863
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.400
Okay, this is another one I struggle with. Sometimes I

864
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:41.320
say burial and sometimes I say burial, although I mostly

865
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:42.039
say burial.

866
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:43.960
Definitely burial, but.

867
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:52.679
Sometimes burial feels more natural because it's like buried, buried, buried, buried, buried, buried.

868
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:56.480
Very I you know what, that made sense, and then

869
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:58.400
the moment I put it out there, it does not.

870
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:00.280
I'm not even defending that one. I'm wrong.

871
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:00.920
Hmmm.

872
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:04.880
I have no idea what something say burial hum interesting

873
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:10.159
because I don't say bury. I say Barry, Yeah, Barry buried. Yeah.

874
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:13.199
So that's that. I'm just wrong. That's just a broken

875
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:13.960
part of my brain.

876
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:14.880
That's okay.

877
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:21.480
Maybe. Quote. It is among the largest jars currently known

878
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:25.360
in LAOS. Study co opter cof co author I can't

879
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:28.960
talk at all, Nicholas Scopel, and archaeologist at James Cook

880
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.280
University in Australia, told Live Science or Live Science in

881
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:36.159
an email. With unusually thick walls, a broad bass, and

882
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:40.880
a bowl like appearance quote, combined with the extraordinary quantity

883
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:45.159
of human remains inside jar, one currently stands apart from

884
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:49.880
other jars excavated in LAOS, he said. Scopel and colleagues

885
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:54.079
publish their findings on May nineteenth in the Journal of Antiquity.

886
00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:00.960
Okay, what is the jar made out of jar stuff

887
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:02.320
because I.

888
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:05.960
Want to stone stone. Yeah, it's made of stone.

889
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:07.280
That's pretty good.

890
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:11.159
What kind of stone, I mean, whatever layocean stone is.

891
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:15.480
I'll show you an image, but it doesn't really get

892
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:16.400
across that much.

893
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:18.199
It really doesn't.

894
00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:19.719
I just yeah, I mean you see a bunch of

895
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:24.159
bones and some Yeah. Yeah, that's that's That's all I

896
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:26.920
got right now as far as the jars go. If

897
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:29.639
there's a better image, I'll show it to you. Oh okay,

898
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:36.159
here we go. This is a smaller jar. Oh okay,

899
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:42.519
so yeah, it's like a stone cylinder. Yeah, okay, that

900
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:47.079
makes vaguely more sense. All right, that makes sense. It

901
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:49.559
kind of that does sound more like a tomb now

902
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:50.440
that I'm thinking of it.

903
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:51.320
Yeah.

904
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:57.039
Yeah, So let's see the researchers excavated a large stone vessel.

905
00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:59.880
It just literally, this is how it always happens. We

906
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.599
ask a question and it's answered in the next line.

907
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:05.719
I'm like, how can they not tell us this in

908
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:07.679
the the next line they tell us that. Yeah, that's

909
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.239
why when you go on a TI rate about that,

910
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:13.039
I immediately read ahead to see if it's going to

911
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.840
be really funny or not. The large stone vessel at

912
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.920
site seventy five on the Mysterious Plane of Jars, a

913
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:26.360
landscape in Xiangkwing xiang Yong Plateau of northern Laos that

914
00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:29.960
consists of more than two thousand hollowed out stone jars

915
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:33.000
used in ancient burial rituals over the course of at

916
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:36.960
least a millennium HM. So they found this one in

917
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.400
a place full of jars, which I guess would make

918
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:40.760
sense that you would then find.

919
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:42.320
More jars like a cemetery.

920
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.360
Yeah, like a cemetery, if only we had a word

921
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:45.599
for that.

922
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:47.760
No, like a graveyard.

923
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:53.000
Mm okay, I like that. I like that. You're doing

924
00:51:53.079 --> 00:52:00.320
all right this time? This time. The jars rangings size

925
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:04.840
from about three point three to ten feet tall and

926
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:09.559
were constructed along trade routes that were heavily used between

927
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.000
five hundred BC and five hundred AD.

928
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.880
They just dump the bodies when they're training. They're like, oh,

929
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:18.280
the dead person put them in the jar.

930
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:23.079
Well, here's the thing. Little is known about the civilization

931
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:27.719
that made the jars or their exact purpose. So the

932
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:31.760
civilization that had this ritual, like, there's like no info

933
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:35.000
about them. Yeah, well it makes sense. Five hundred BC

934
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:36.400
is a long time ago.

935
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:41.639
I guess look for.

936
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:45.320
The Jews, you're like, that's normal, But for everybody else,

937
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:54.400
that's a really long time okay, pine gosh, just saying, fine, Hey,

938
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:56.880
I go to Satyr. You guys are talking about stuff

939
00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:59.440
from a really long time ago, like it's totally normal.

940
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:02.079
Yeah, yeah, it's normal. Cheese.

941
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.320
While excavating the six point seven foot wide jar at

942
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:11.760
Site seventy five, the researchers were surprised by the sheer

943
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:15.039
number of human bones inside the vessel, and by the

944
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:20.360
fact that the bones came from select parts of decomposed individuals.

945
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:22.280
Okay, that's weird.

946
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:26.480
For example, skulls were placed along the edges of the jar,

947
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:29.880
while arm and leg bones were bunched together, hinting that

948
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:34.639
the jar was not the primary burial location. Also present

949
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.840
in the jar were multicolored glass beads, a kind of

950
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:42.079
like what you were saying, so many of which were

951
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:50.119
manufactured in India. WHOA, that's interesting. Radiocarbon dating of several

952
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:53.920
teeth from the jar produced an even bigger surprise, a

953
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:57.960
series of dates much more recent than expected.

954
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:00.800
Well, that's what when they said India, it's like they're

955
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:04.159
going back and forth between places or what's happening here, Well,

956
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:05.519
that's not entirely uncommon.

957
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:09.639
Laos isn't that far from modern day India. Just granted

958
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:14.280
there was no India, you know in this time period.

959
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:17.000
I mean it was. It was Hindustan and a bunch

960
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:20.480
of other things. The bones of the people who ranged

961
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:23.320
in age from young children to adults were placed in

962
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:27.199
the jar at several times between eight ninety and sixteen sixty.

963
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:32.360
I'm guessing they mean ad because that recent yeah yeah quote.

964
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:36.039
The current evidence suggests this was a collective mortuary space

965
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:41.559
used repeatedly over generations, potentially by extended family or community groups.

966
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:44.719
Scopel said, that makes sense. What I was thinking too,

967
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:48.480
is it was some kind of communal grave spot. More

968
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:51.920
research is needed to better understand who the people were. Quote.

969
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:55.800
Ancient DNA will hopefully allow us to investigate biological relationships

970
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:59.039
between individuals, he said. We have not yet completed the

971
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:02.360
ancient DNA and analysis, although this one this is one

972
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:05.880
of the major next steps in the progress or in

973
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:09.480
the process. I don't know why I can't read anymore.

974
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:10.360
I used to be able to read.

975
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:12.800
They're very similar looking words, and.

976
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:15.239
I was never that good of a reader, like we'll

977
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:21.559
be real. So no, Well, when we get back cell,

978
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.119
we're going to do one of our classic hilarious dogs

979
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:28.760
or not dog animal stories because it's not about a dog.

980
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:33.599
See literally what I'm broken, But we're going to talk

981
00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:47.000
about that right after this. All right, Shell, it's time

982
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:52.000
for a somewhat feel good or kind of cool animal

983
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:56.639
story because I love that these always creep into the show. Yeah,

984
00:55:56.960 --> 00:56:00.440
they're they're usually lighter and this one, and I thought

985
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:06.920
sounded kind of badass, okay. huffingtonPost dot Com reports headline,

986
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:13.440
male coyote stuns biologists by swimming two miles to Alcatraz Island.

987
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:19.760
Oh wow, see is that nuts? Yeah?

988
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:21.920
I mean, do you know much about Alcatraz?

989
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:22.639
I do?

990
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:27.639
Not good? Like they're really bad?

991
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:30.119
And also why does he want to go to prison?

992
00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:34.280
I mean, I'm guessing there's a female coyote there or something,

993
00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:36.639
just because they kept saying it's a male coyote in

994
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:40.920
the headline. But I don't know. I guess alone what

995
00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:41.920
was that? Oh?

996
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:44.199
I would just say, I guess we'll find out. Probably

997
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:45.760
maybe alone.

998
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:49.719
Coyote stunned biologists and others when it paddled its way

999
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:53.559
to remote Alcatraz Island earlier this year, a former federal

1000
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:58.639
prison in the San Francisco Bay surrounded by swift, choppy waters,

1001
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:03.440
notorious for warding prisoners escapes. I don't say notorious. That

1002
00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:04.719
was just a slip of the tongue.

1003
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.360
Are you sure her No?

1004
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:12.840
Yeah. At the time, biologists guess the coyote swam from

1005
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:15.800
San Francisco, which is a little over one mile from

1006
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:19.159
the fortress. But it turns out the male coyote actually

1007
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:23.599
made an even longer swim from nearby Angel Island two

1008
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:24.679
miles away.

1009
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:28.440
Did it like fall in the water or did it

1010
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:29.679
literally just did this?

1011
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:33.719
I don't know. Maybe it did it. Maybe coyotes are

1012
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.119
are heading into the next level of evolutions, are going

1013
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:39.679
to start doing stupid things just because they can like humans.

1014
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:40.519
Yeah.

1015
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:46.800
Maybe why you climb that mountain because it's there? Yeah. Quote.

1016
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:49.679
Our working assumption was that the coyote made the swim

1017
00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:53.199
from San Francisco because it is a significantly shorter distance.

1018
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:56.199
We couldn't help being impressed by his accomplishment and making

1019
00:57:56.199 --> 00:58:00.639
it to Alcatraz. National Park Service wildlife ecologist Bill said

1020
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:05.480
in a Monday release titled Alcatraz Coyote wasn't a city

1021
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:10.760
boy after all. Quote, I like that. See this guy

1022
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:13.920
should be writing the copy, the cringe copy. His cringe

1023
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.320
copy would be way better than the cringe copy we

1024
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:17.280
see here all the time.

1025
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:18.519
Yeah.

1026
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.800
Quote. Coyotes are known to be resilient and adaptable, and

1027
00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:26.400
he certainly demonstrated those qualities, he said. Camilla Fox, founder

1028
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:29.880
and executive director of the nonprofit Coyote Project or Project

1029
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:34.079
Coyote Sorry, said the coyote likely departed its home base

1030
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.199
in search of a mate or new territory to defend.

1031
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:41.119
She said, coyotes, like wolves, do swim, although it's incredibly

1032
00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:44.800
rare for humans to spot one doing so, so they're

1033
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:46.920
very like self conscious. Yeah.

1034
00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:49.239
Yeah, they're like, I don't want anyone to see me swim.

1035
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:51.599
Honestly, That's kind of how I am when I swim.

1036
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:53.679
I learned how to swim in my thirties, so I'd like,

1037
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:55.159
I don't want to even watch. I just want to

1038
00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:56.360
swim when nobody's looking.

1039
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:58.679
Yeah, I get it, I'll.

1040
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:04.440
Anybody's see my doggy paddle. Ironically, quote, we've never ever

1041
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:07.400
heard such a story of a coyote making a long,

1042
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.960
such a long journey in a pretty challenging ocean. Current,

1043
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:15.239
she said. Video from early January shows the coyote paddling

1044
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:18.239
in the Chile San Francisco Bay and then struggling to

1045
00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:21.199
get onto the Rocky Island. It was followed by a

1046
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:26.920
January twenty fourth visitor sighting and photographing. Biologists found fresh

1047
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:29.760
coyote tracks and scat, which they sent to the University

1048
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:34.119
of California Davis for DNA analysis. Officials were stunned to

1049
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:37.360
learn the swimmer was part of the coyote population on

1050
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:42.719
Angel Island. Wow, do you think he's like like Angel Island?

1051
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:46.280
Represent Yeah, Like do you think the other coyotes on

1052
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:48.199
Angel Island they are like hell yeah? Or do you

1053
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:51.719
think they're like in Ohio since we have the most astronauts,

1054
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:53.840
they're like, oh great. People are just gonna say that,

1055
00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:56.880
like you'll do anything to get away from Ohio, like

1056
00:59:56.920 --> 00:59:57.639
go to space.

1057
00:59:58.920 --> 00:59:59.360
Yeah.

1058
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:02.679
I think Angel Island people are gonna Angel Island now.

1059
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:04.920
People are like, wow, it must be pretty bad. Coyotes

1060
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:07.440
are swimming two miles in the rough current to a

1061
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:12.159
prison to a prison. The Park Service was prepared to

1062
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:15.760
capture and relocate the coyote because of Alcatraz's role as

1063
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:21.159
a seabird nesting habitat. That makes sense, but he has

1064
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.599
never again been spotted or caught on recording devices, and

1065
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:27.800
there was no evidence that coyote is still on the island.

1066
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:29.519
Because he's a ghost coyote.

1067
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:34.360
I okay, I'm saying it right now. In thirteen months,

1068
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:36.639
he's gonna he's gonna show up on the shore of

1069
01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:40.800
South Korea. Wow, and people are gonna be like, whoa,

1070
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.840
he's gonna he's going for the long game. Yeah, that

1071
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:46.679
was the warm up, was Alcatraz.

1072
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:50.280
Yeah, he's just seeing how far he can he can swim.

1073
01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:52.199
Yeah, he just needed to get his gumption up. And

1074
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:54.480
now he's got confidence, he's ready, He's got his mojo.

1075
01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:56.559
Yeah.

1076
01:00:56.760 --> 01:00:59.639
Alcatraz Island became a federal prison in the nineteen thirties

1077
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:02.400
does to house the worst criminals, but it closed in

1078
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:09.039
nineteen sixties because its remoteness made it too costly to operate. Still,

1079
01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:13.559
thirty six men attempted fourteen separate escapes from Alcatraz. Nearly

1080
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:16.400
all were caught or didn't survive the cold swift current.

1081
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:20.039
In nineteen seventy three, the island reopened as a park.

1082
01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:23.960
I do remember here, you know, I've heard stories about

1083
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:25.280
going on tours of Alcatraz.

1084
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:26.679
I've been to Alcatraz?

1085
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:27.599
Really?

1086
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:28.360
Yeah?

1087
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.800
How was that not the opening line of this whole thing?

1088
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.639
Oh? I don't know. I kind of thought you knew.

1089
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:36.760
I mean maybe in the back of my mind.

1090
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:39.800
But what Yeah, it's a place and you go there

1091
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:40.760
and go on a tour.

1092
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:42.519
Did you like it? Was it fun?

1093
01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:46.719
It was okay, it was pretty good. It was a

1094
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:49.320
while ago. I kind of wish it went now instead,

1095
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:51.920
you know, Oh.

1096
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:52.920
So you can see a coyote?

1097
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:55.480
Yeah?

1098
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:58.000
Did you get any like, like a cheesy T shirt?

1099
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:00.119
Like you know, I served time on the rock? Or

1100
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:03.039
all I got for going to Alcatraz was this lousy

1101
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:07.440
T shirt? Or like I'm with stupid inmate. I don't know.

1102
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:09.719
I'm making these up completely off the top of my head.

1103
01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:10.480
I'm not even trying.

1104
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:13.159
I don't even know if there was a gift shop there.

1105
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:14.239
I guess there wasn't.

1106
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:16.280
There had to be a gift shop at Alcatraz.

1107
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:19.719
I mostly just remember going there on the boat and

1108
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.320
then also being there.

1109
01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:24.079
And then also being there.

1110
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:33.679
Okay, I fine, whatever, you don't you don't want to Actually,

1111
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:35.519
I think you just don't want to share the awesomeness

1112
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:36.360
you had at Alcatraz.

1113
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:37.360
I think you're just hiding it.

1114
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:39.599
I mean, I thought it was pretty cool. I'd like

1115
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:43.440
to go to more persons and not be in them

1116
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:45.119
because I'm in trouble.

1117
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:52.719
So you know, Angel Island is a separate state park

1118
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.760
once served as which once served as a processing and

1119
01:02:55.880 --> 01:03:00.000
detention center where Chinese and other unwanted immigrants were kept

1120
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.679
for a couple of days to months, even as long

1121
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:04.159
as two years.

1122
01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:08.039
So he's going from one like thing where you detain

1123
01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:10.599
people to another thing where you detain people.

1124
01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:13.480
All I'm picking up on is that San Francisco likes

1125
01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:17.360
to do its dirty work hidden behind islands. That's all

1126
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:21.679
I'm getting. Yeah, it wasn't easy for coyotes to colonize

1127
01:03:21.719 --> 01:03:25.840
Angel Island, but they persevered. Fox of Project Coyote said

1128
01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:30.239
she asks there was no quotes over that, thanks Huffing

1129
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:32.639
can Post. She asked the visitors to the island and

1130
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:35.960
other open spaces be mindful not to disturb coyote families

1131
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:39.559
and their dens, given that it is currently pop pup season.

1132
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.119
Oh ah, that's at least that ended on a cute note.

1133
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:46.280
Well, that's it, that's it.

1134
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:50.880
Don't visit them, you know, so I'm telling you that

1135
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:52.559
coyote is going to come up on the shores. He's

1136
01:03:52.559 --> 01:04:00.000
going to cross the Pacific. Yeah, you can count on it. Yeah, Well,

1137
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:04.760
and we come how dare you? When we come back,

1138
01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:07.000
we're gonna head to Mirror dot co dot uk for

1139
01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:11.320
a headline and story that's stupid enough that it fits,

1140
01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:13.920
So I felt like we should include it before we

1141
01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:29.440
get to our topic right after this and we're back. Oh,

1142
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:32.519
I did not accidentally hit the button leave me alone,

1143
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:38.320
kicking on me this articles from Mirror dot co dot uk,

1144
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:42.000
and I honestly we weren't gonna have any stories from

1145
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:43.920
Mirror dot co dot uk this month, which I think

1146
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:47.400
might have been first. But then I saw this and

1147
01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:53.079
I was like, why not? Exclusive nineties music icon Kenny

1148
01:04:53.199 --> 01:05:00.840
Thomas dismissed Poultergeist haunting before exorcism. Well, I guess, plus,

1149
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.559
you have your own opinions about exorcisms.

1150
01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:08.239
Yes, so maybe the ghost is okay because it didn't

1151
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:10.920
get exercised and he was just like you gotta leave,

1152
01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:11.559
and the ghost was.

1153
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:17.920
Like or because of the soothing classics of Kenny Thomas maybe,

1154
01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:20.360
which I have to be honest, I don't know his

1155
01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:24.280
music I don't know, yeah, and and I read like

1156
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:26.639
a couple of the song titles and I don't know

1157
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:34.199
them either, so I you know, we'll we'll have to see, uh, yeah, don't.

1158
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:40.679
I don't know. Man, a nineties music icon, had no

1159
01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:44.320
choice but to book an exorcism at his home. Kenny Thomas,

1160
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:48.039
feigned for his hits, including Thinking About Your Love and

1161
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:53.000
Best of You I Don't know those songs, has revealed

1162
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:56.920
that while his wife and children started noticing spooky things

1163
01:05:56.960 --> 01:05:59.760
at his home, he was originally skeptical.

1164
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:03.639
Of course, he was. It's always nice when when you're

1165
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:09.000
like dad, something is like attacking me, and your Dad's like, eh,

1166
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:10.280
I'm probably the wind.

1167
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:14.280
That's just growing pains. Kid, you're going through that, you're

1168
01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:18.840
at that age. I just imagine he always has a toothpick,

1169
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:20.880
Like he's just always like picking his teeth, Like it's

1170
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:22.079
like he just ate dinner.

1171
01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:25.519
I like, how we don't even know anything about this person.

1172
01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:27.440
And that's yeah.

1173
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:29.440
I was kind of hoping i'd recognize his song so

1174
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:32.920
I could like use his lyric like lyrics to make jokes.

1175
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:37.719
I don't recognize him at all. Oh well, But while

1176
01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:41.000
his family had noticed the eerie goings on, Kenny didn't

1177
01:06:41.079 --> 01:06:44.480
experience nearly as much as they did. He noticed that

1178
01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:47.519
his two dogs would constantly gaze into the corners of

1179
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:52.159
rooms and instantly start growling as though someone were there.

1180
01:06:53.639 --> 01:06:55.320
They do that though, Oh.

1181
01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:57.000
I thought you'd be like, oh, that's drywall. That's a

1182
01:06:57.039 --> 01:06:58.440
drywall problem, because.

1183
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:02.119
Yeah, yeah, that's term Actually they see the termites.

1184
01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:03.679
The dogs hate termites.

1185
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:04.760
Yeah.

1186
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:07.519
Quote. I didn't know if there were noises coming from

1187
01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:11.199
a neighbor or heating pipes, he said. Kenny went on

1188
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:14.480
to add that while his London home was warm, often

1189
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:18.760
with the fire on, a deathly chill would instantly engulf

1190
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:20.239
the property.

1191
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:26.000
If there wasn't any heat on, No, he says, the

1192
01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:26.760
fire was on.

1193
01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:28.960
Yeah, well he's saying, with the fire on.

1194
01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:32.840
Okay, I read the comma in a different spot, so

1195
01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:34.440
now yeah, or I.

1196
01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:36.440
Read it, I guess because I'm the one reading it

1197
01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:40.119
all brain read. Oh, okay, thank you for this for

1198
01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:45.800
covering for me for once, despite initially not believing that

1199
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:48.920
his home was haunted. There is one day which will

1200
01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:54.000
forever be etched in his mind. There were so many

1201
01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:55.920
ads after that. I thought that was the end of

1202
01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:57.519
the article that I was going to be like, well,

1203
01:07:57.519 --> 01:07:59.920
that just sums up our relationship. When we heard that

1204
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:06.760
showed a uk perfectly quote. My wife was out and

1205
01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:10.199
my daughter was upstairs. We had only had our first baby,

1206
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:13.440
a child, a baby who was in the caught upstairs.

1207
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:15.840
He said. Kenny was in the kitchen at the time

1208
01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:19.239
when the cooker, which was nowhere near him but was closed,

1209
01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:23.399
was nowhere near him but was closed. That's a really

1210
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:26.239
weird way to say. He says that the cooker would

1211
01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:29.319
take some force to get closed. He went on to

1212
01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:32.680
explain that Angela, his daughter, was quote fast asleep. There

1213
01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:36.439
was no crying. Okay these times about the little baby,

1214
01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:40.720
I hope his eleven year old daughter. She was not crying. No,

1215
01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:43.840
what did people tell you? Because they were lying, but

1216
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:48.439
he instantly knew the sound of his daughter's cry. Recalling

1217
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:51.159
the chilling incident, he said, when I came downstairs, you

1218
01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:53.760
were facing into the kitchen. The oven had just been

1219
01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:57.359
pulled open. I just froze. I'm guessing he was talking

1220
01:08:57.399 --> 01:09:00.479
to the child at that point, because that that was

1221
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:02.880
really confusing, that it became second person.

1222
01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:05.520
Yeah, yeah, Kenny says.

1223
01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:08.520
He questioned whether he was quote losing his mind over

1224
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:12.239
the freaky incident. Quote, whatever was going on in that house.

1225
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:14.920
It exposed itself to me, he said, but was still

1226
01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:21.760
skeptical about it exposed itself as the weeks. It's just

1227
01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:24.000
the ghost with like the trench coat. You know. Yeah,

1228
01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:27.640
that's like an eighties trope we saw on movies and

1229
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:31.359
TV all the time. That's totally gone. Now the flasher, it's.

1230
01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:32.319
Okay that it's gone. I think.

1231
01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:33.920
Yeah, it was. I mean it was literally that it

1232
01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:37.920
was a pervert. Yeah, you know, so you know, although

1233
01:09:38.119 --> 01:09:41.399
observant report had the flasher in it in that m HM,

1234
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:43.399
which was which was pretty pretty solid.

1235
01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:44.239
Quote.

1236
01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:47.159
As the weeks went on, the poltergeist activity got worse.

1237
01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:53.640
It went on a long time, he said. Yeah, he continued.

1238
01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:56.520
It was slamming. It was the it was slamming of doors.

1239
01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:00.079
And there's a room upstairs, part studio, part office, and

1240
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:03.039
the flooring and there wasn't carpet. I changed it to

1241
01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:07.039
Antiico flooring. Oh is that bad? I don't know what

1242
01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:09.560
am amptico Amptico Antico.

1243
01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:13.000
Uh, it's probably like a brand name of something that

1244
01:10:13.079 --> 01:10:14.840
I don't know. I'm not familiar with because it's oh,

1245
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:19.600
you know, like because it's British.

1246
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.239
Harsh but fair luxury vinyl flooring.

1247
01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:25.319
Yeah, just say just say LVP or whatever.

1248
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:30.119
I think he wanted to sound special. Yes, he wanted

1249
01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:33.079
to flex. You'd hear the chair, the wheels on the

1250
01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:35.560
office chair across the room, and you would go up.

1251
01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:39.199
It would be in another position. I mean, I get

1252
01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:41.359
that this is just the cadence at which he spoke,

1253
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:43.359
but it is very confusing. Sometimes.

1254
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:45.800
Yeah, I would not go up. That was you.

1255
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:46.800
It was you.

1256
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:47.479
It was not me.

1257
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:48.640
That was me.

1258
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:53.640
No, oh it was them. Oh, maybe I'm confused.

1259
01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:57.840
The doors in Kenny's home were fire raided, solid wood doors,

1260
01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:01.199
saying they were really heavy. Quote, there was one night

1261
01:11:01.239 --> 01:11:03.399
I was sleeping downstairs. My wife was pregnant with our

1262
01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:06.279
second child, he said, adding it was there one night

1263
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:08.640
I was reading a book and the door just went bang,

1264
01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:13.119
just smashed. My wife came down and said, why did

1265
01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:16.279
you slam the door? Angela's in bed, and I said,

1266
01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:20.680
I didn't slam it. I was in bed. It sounds

1267
01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:22.560
like he just like is trying to cover for the

1268
01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:26.800
fact that he was slamming doors, Like you know, I.

1269
01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:29.720
Mean, maybe the door's not balanced, so it's slammed because

1270
01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:30.520
it's very heavy.

1271
01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:33.720
Oh yeah. Or there's a problem with like the things

1272
01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:36.319
the hinges are like off and you need to add

1273
01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:38.800
some tension to the hinges to keep the door from closing.

1274
01:11:39.479 --> 01:11:41.880
Or yeah, I read it. I watched a whole YouTube

1275
01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:44.600
video on how to I'm going to rehang my doors? Yeah,

1276
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:46.399
a couple in a week or two. I want to.

1277
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:48.800
I kind of want to repaint my back door or

1278
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:51.399
my front door. You should like just strip it and

1279
01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:52.960
paint it. I want it to be orange.

1280
01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:56.640
I know you do. You should do it. Yeah, do it? Yeah,

1281
01:11:56.720 --> 01:11:59.680
right now. Oh but we're in the middle of a

1282
01:11:59.720 --> 01:12:00.600
show right now.

1283
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:01.119
Stop home.

1284
01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:03.439
Yeah, I'm doing the show anymore. Go paint your door.

1285
01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:06.920
Oh man, the door is in Kenny's home. Oh I

1286
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:10.199
read that point. My initial reaction was was is that

1287
01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:12.800
the best you've got? When I looked into it. They've

1288
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:15.399
got twenty moves they can make. They range from noises,

1289
01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:18.920
cold drafts all the way up to physical violence scratching

1290
01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:22.319
and hair pulling. Another common one is choking. We had

1291
01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:25.239
the first ten to twelve moves that these Poltergeist do.

1292
01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:30.800
He spelled poltergeist weird too, uh huh, So, Kenny, I

1293
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:32.279
don't know what's up with that.

1294
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:37.479
I think he's saying that, like he knows as poltergeist

1295
01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:40.760
they could do all of these things, and they've had

1296
01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:43.920
twelve of them done, but not even the ones stets

1297
01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:47.479
are that bad. But I don't know. I'm confused.

1298
01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:51.000
This is confusing as much as I would expect from

1299
01:12:51.159 --> 01:12:55.319
like ninety celebrity story about his haunted house. Yeah, like,

1300
01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:58.600
I didn't have high hopes for it to be honest,

1301
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:03.119
and it ends with plugging his like some kind of

1302
01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:04.920
special reunion show or something.

1303
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:07.199
I mean, yeah, of course it does.

1304
01:13:07.319 --> 01:13:09.880
Which I won't be reading. Actually, wow, it's more than

1305
01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:12.399
the last line. It's like it's like a third of

1306
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:16.920
this is him plugging stuff, which is not shocking. Yeah,

1307
01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:20.319
oh yeah. But Kenny was unsure whether the house had

1308
01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:24.119
trapped recordings of previous residents or whether their spirits were

1309
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:26.640
trapped in the house and hadn't been able to move

1310
01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:29.479
on to their next life. Quote this one, I couldn't

1311
01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:32.439
deny it was real, he said, adding I made contact

1312
01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:34.520
with people I knew, and I was introduced to an

1313
01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:37.760
exorcist who was a priest of Westminster Diocese and a

1314
01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:42.840
very experienced man. I like, it's just a very experienced man. Yes, yes,

1315
01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:47.000
not a very experienced priest, but just a very experienced man.

1316
01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:49.000
He's an older guy. He had a lot of experience.

1317
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:53.760
Yeah, seasoning. Yeah. Despite his initial skepticism, Kenny later acknowledged

1318
01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:56.960
that the poldergeist was very, very real. A neighbor who

1319
01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:58.800
had seen the house from the day it was built

1320
01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:02.000
later confirmed to Kenny, while nobody had died in the house,

1321
01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:06.840
she wasn't surprised by ghostly activity. If I said, Hey,

1322
01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:09.359
nobody ever died there, my next line would be, I

1323
01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:11.439
am surprised by ghostly activity.

1324
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:17.960
Mm hmmm. Well maybe people died on the property and

1325
01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:20.520
they just didn't put that in the article.

1326
01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:26.760
I I don't know, but I'm going to stop there

1327
01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:28.840
because I'm not reading his long plug about his like

1328
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:31.520
special tour. That's all we they gave us. I didn't

1329
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:35.479
even talk about how the exorcism went. I'm looking, I'm

1330
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:37.800
looking through it doesn't even say man mirror dot co

1331
01:14:37.840 --> 01:14:41.800
dot UK never disappoints in that. It always disappoints.

1332
01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:43.520
Yeah.

1333
01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:46.479
Well, we're going to take a quick break and when

1334
01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:49.920
we come back, we're going to talk about the life

1335
01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:56.119
and death of the USS Indianapolis. Okay, Yeah, no, and

1336
01:14:56.119 --> 01:14:58.079
you're gonna learn. You're going to learn something today.

1337
01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:00.880
Maybe we'll see.

1338
01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:11.760
Okay, fine, Shelle, Do you want to try to guess

1339
01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:18.119
what happened other than sinking to the USS Indianapolis.

1340
01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:19.840
I can give you a hint if you.

1341
01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:22.640
Want so, Like, do you mean before it sank or

1342
01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:23.600
after it sank?

1343
01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:28.720
After it sank is probably the most famous thing, Like.

1344
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:34.279
Like, it filled with water and everyone died.

1345
01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:37.600
Not everybody died. They have lifeboats and stuff. I mean,

1346
01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:39.039
this is a naval warship.

1347
01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:42.359
Oh so it filled with water and some people didn't

1348
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:44.359
die because they escaped on.

1349
01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:47.399
The life most I mean that is that is the

1350
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:48.479
broad strokes of it.

1351
01:15:48.600 --> 01:15:52.479
Yes, that's all I got.

1352
01:15:52.760 --> 01:15:55.479
Okay, Okay, no, it's no. Well, I mean I can

1353
01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:56.399
it was World War two?

1354
01:15:57.039 --> 01:15:58.520
Okay, so got exploded.

1355
01:15:59.239 --> 01:16:01.880
Was it world War two? Yeah? World War two? So

1356
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:03.640
I got For a second, I was like, wait, no, yeah,

1357
01:16:03.680 --> 01:16:06.479
it has to because it was in the South Pacific. Okay,

1358
01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:09.239
that's that's what I got for you, man.

1359
01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:11.680
Oh so it got hit by a thing and then

1360
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:15.000
it's sunk and now it's gone forever.

1361
01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:21.399
I can't believe you've never heard about this, Okay, we have?

1362
01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:24.680
Oh no, no, once we start talking about you have

1363
01:16:24.760 --> 01:16:26.840
you just didn't know the name. So this is from

1364
01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:33.000
Pacificwarmuseum dot org. And this was actually published just like

1365
01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:36.119
July of last year. So it's a pretty new piece

1366
01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:39.720
about the USS Indianapolis. I thought it'd be a good

1367
01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:43.600
pick for a Memorial Day that makes sense. It's a

1368
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:50.680
pretty harrowing story and it's by Margaret Dudley. The demise

1369
01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:53.760
of the USS Indianapolis is one of the worst naval

1370
01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:58.239
tragedies in United States history. In July nineteen forty five,

1371
01:16:58.319 --> 01:17:01.119
with a crew of one one hundred. In ninety seven,

1372
01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:05.359
Indy embarked from Guam to late late As. I said,

1373
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:07.079
let late l e yte.

1374
01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:09.880
I don't know, ah, why.

1375
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:12.399
Do I not know how to say that? The amount

1376
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:14.920
of like random places. I have to know how to

1377
01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:21.199
pronounce for this job Latee. Although I did Mommy, Ohio

1378
01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:23.880
and Google said it was mao, me was how you

1379
01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:26.000
said it? So then I posted that video and everybody

1380
01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:28.560
corrected me. I was like, God, damn it. I tried.

1381
01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:33.479
I even tried. I just guess anyway, it's laty lighty

1382
01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:38.079
okay embarked from Guam for Lati. They would never reach

1383
01:17:38.279 --> 01:17:42.760
the destination. Just after midnight on the thirtieth of July,

1384
01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:46.600
the ship was spotted by the Japanese submarine I fifty

1385
01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:50.600
eight and torpedoed, sinking in less than twelve minutes.

1386
01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:52.159
That seems bad.

1387
01:17:54.520 --> 01:18:01.600
Just wait. After five days in the water, only three

1388
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:09.039
hundred and sixteen men survived. While this is the end

1389
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:13.840
of Indie's story, the story of the USS Indianapolis began

1390
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:18.039
years earlier and includes a long history of distinguished service

1391
01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:20.800
and a spirit of perseverance, determination, and bravery that her

1392
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:25.720
crew demonstrated even to the very end. Are they Are

1393
01:18:25.720 --> 01:18:27.199
they really burying the lead here?

1394
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:30.239
I'm so confused. I mean, so far this is exactly

1395
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:31.600
what I said happened.

1396
01:18:34.079 --> 01:18:35.960
Oh wow, they're not going to go into it very much.

1397
01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:43.560
Oh well, okay, so I'm not going to spoil Well,

1398
01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:46.319
I should tell you so. One of the things that

1399
01:18:46.399 --> 01:18:50.359
made this particularly brutal was at one point in the

1400
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:53.359
five days they were stuck at sea, they started getting

1401
01:18:53.399 --> 01:18:57.760
attacked by swarms of sharks. Oh it was really brutal.

1402
01:18:58.359 --> 01:18:59.359
Oh that's sad.

1403
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:04.760
That's the scene in Jaws. The quint the fisherman. He

1404
01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:07.880
says he was on the USS Indianapolis and watched sharks

1405
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:13.000
attacking people. So, but I mean, there's more to it

1406
01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:16.039
than just the sharks though. It's just a harrowing, terrifying

1407
01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:24.119
thing that happened, them being stuck at sea for five days. Yeah, okay,

1408
01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:25.720
you're like, I could do ten. I don't care.

1409
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:28.359
I mean, I'm not sure. So they were stuck at

1410
01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:29.399
sea after they.

1411
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:31.239
Had been hit, after they've been sunk.

1412
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:35.239
Oh so they were sunk. Oh, so like the survivors

1413
01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:36.800
were stuck as.

1414
01:19:36.920 --> 01:19:39.439
They were floating on pieces of wreckage and what was

1415
01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:40.479
left of lifeboats.

1416
01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:45.199
Okay, that sucks. That sucks a lot. Finally, I was confused.

1417
01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:47.760
Really, I thought this was the fun kind of your

1418
01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:49.800
ship got sunk by a submarine.

1419
01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:53.039
Yeah, well, you said it got sunk, but then you

1420
01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:55.520
said that they were at sea for five days. So

1421
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:56.680
I was confused.

1422
01:19:57.159 --> 01:20:00.239
That's because that's awful, being at sea with no VOT

1423
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:01.000
for five days.

1424
01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:03.119
Well, I thought maybe they still had the boat and

1425
01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:05.319
it took five days to sink, even though you said

1426
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:06.840
it was only thirteen minutes.

1427
01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:11.520
Thirteen minutes oh for the boat to sink. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1428
01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:14.199
that's in the quote. Yeah, oh that's for the actual sinking.

1429
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:21.399
Yeah yeahs Salty Chell is alive and well kids. The

1430
01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:24.920
USS Indianapolis was laid down at Camden, New Jersey, on

1431
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:27.840
the thirty first of March nineteen thirty She was launched

1432
01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:30.960
in November nineteen thirty one and commissioned the following year

1433
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:34.600
at Philadelphia Naval Yard. Yay Portland. Yeah see you look

1434
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:37.840
all that Jersey an Philly. The Portland class cruiser was

1435
01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:41.720
built under the restrictions of the Washington Naval Treaty, which

1436
01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:46.279
placed limitations on naval construction. To comply with the demands

1437
01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:50.000
of the treaty without reducing firepower, Ships like Indianapolis were

1438
01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:55.479
often constructed without most of their torpedo shielding. Oh oh yeah.

1439
01:20:56.079 --> 01:21:00.880
Thus Indy had plenty of guns but less armor. Even so,

1440
01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:03.760
she was an impressive ship, so much so that she

1441
01:21:03.880 --> 01:21:07.039
eventually became the flagship of the Fifth Fleet during World

1442
01:21:07.079 --> 01:21:11.600
War Two and became the welcomed President and before that,

1443
01:21:11.720 --> 01:21:15.960
welcomed President Franklin D. Roosevelt himself on more than one occasion.

1444
01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:21.319
Indianapolis had her first experience hosting Roosevelt in February of

1445
01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:24.239
nineteen thirty three, less than six months after her commissioning,

1446
01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:29.359
when she transported him from Maine to Maryland. As war

1447
01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:32.560
tensions continued to rise, Indianapolis and her crew trained to

1448
01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:36.760
prepare themselves for the outbreak of hostilities. This eventually occurred

1449
01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:40.039
in December nineteen forty one, while Indy was performing bombing

1450
01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:43.760
exercises at Johnson Island. She quickly returned home and joined

1451
01:21:43.800 --> 01:21:48.439
Task Force eleven at Pearl Harbor. From there, Indianapolis began

1452
01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:51.760
racking up battle stars for her valiant service, beginning in

1453
01:21:51.800 --> 01:22:01.920
the Bougainville campaign and Salem Salemam Salemai Maua Salamaia Ley

1454
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:05.880
Raid in February and March of nineteen forty two. After

1455
01:22:06.039 --> 01:22:08.680
service in the Aleutian I actually do have to say

1456
01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:13.000
as Aleutian Islands area, for which she received another battlestar,

1457
01:22:13.079 --> 01:22:17.079
Indianapolis became the flagship of the fifth Fleet, commanded by

1458
01:22:17.159 --> 01:22:22.119
Admiral Raymond Spruance, an Indianapolis native. Oh that's fun. It

1459
01:22:22.159 --> 01:22:24.079
was commanded by somebody from Indianapolis.

1460
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:25.439
Yeah, it's kind of nice.

1461
01:22:25.720 --> 01:22:29.600
Yeah. In these other battle stars included action in the

1462
01:22:29.640 --> 01:22:33.279
Marshall and Mariana Islands, including the capture of Tinian and

1463
01:22:33.359 --> 01:22:37.199
the pre invasion and support operations for the Ewojima campaign.

1464
01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:39.760
She played a vital role in the assault and occupation

1465
01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:42.640
of the island, before being called away to participate in

1466
01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:46.000
the bombardment of the Japanese home islands. After several days,

1467
01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:49.159
the Indianapolis was again pulled out for yet another mission,

1468
01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:54.520
the pre invasion bombardment of Okinawa. So it was this

1469
01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:59.680
ship was very busy in the Pacific theater during I

1470
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:02.760
think that term was used in World War Two. What

1471
01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:08.840
busy Pacific theater? You mean you're picking on me, you know,

1472
01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:11.520
I'm all I'm all flippity gibbet to put my aunt Betty.

1473
01:23:11.680 --> 01:23:14.479
You're doing fine, And Pacific theater was hused.

1474
01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:16.880
You're how do you know?

1475
01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:19.199
I don't. I'm just helping.

1476
01:23:19.640 --> 01:23:21.680
You're like, I know everything about World War Two. Because

1477
01:23:21.720 --> 01:23:24.239
it wasn't for World War Two, my beloved anime would

1478
01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:25.319
not exist.

1479
01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:29.600
I mean, yeah, it would be. It would exist. It

1480
01:23:29.640 --> 01:23:30.960
would just be very different.

1481
01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:33.399
It would exist.

1482
01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:34.479
It would exist.

1483
01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:39.000
It would not exist. Man, Oh sorry, just telling it

1484
01:23:39.119 --> 01:23:42.279
like it is. When we get back, we're going to

1485
01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:45.920
talk about the beginnings of the sinking of the Indianapolis

1486
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:50.399
and the crew's valiant struggle to survive. Right after this,

1487
01:23:58.399 --> 01:24:05.439
we're back helping ol Michelle on history involving the USS Indianapolis.

1488
01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:10.600
Where's your where's your notepad that you're supposed to be

1489
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:12.319
taking notes? There's a test.

1490
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:15.039
You can't see it. I'm taking notes.

1491
01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:20.439
I know I won't win if I challenge you, so

1492
01:24:20.479 --> 01:24:21.319
I'm not gonna try.

1493
01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:23.680
I mean, I could lift up this notepad right here

1494
01:24:23.880 --> 01:24:26.079
and it might say something on it, but that's from

1495
01:24:26.119 --> 01:24:26.920
all the way over there.

1496
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:27.439
How is that?

1497
01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:31.880
Oh well, I put it there while we were on break.

1498
01:24:32.199 --> 01:24:35.439
Uh huh uh huh yeah, oh yeah, and then you

1499
01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:36.399
just whoops.

1500
01:24:36.439 --> 01:24:38.960
My webcam is too low quality for you to be

1501
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:40.359
able to tell what's on this nopad.

1502
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:44.800
Do Yeah.

1503
01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:48.439
Indy's crew helped terrain ammunition down on the island of

1504
01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:50.920
Okinawa for a full week to soften it up for

1505
01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:54.239
the invasion forces. The day before the planned invasion, the

1506
01:24:54.239 --> 01:24:57.520
thirty first of March nineteen forty five, a Japanese Kamakazi

1507
01:24:57.560 --> 01:24:59.960
plane set its sights on the Indianapolis.

1508
01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:00.760
Oh No.

1509
01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:04.600
The pilot flew towards the ship, keeping the plane aligned

1510
01:25:04.640 --> 01:25:08.279
so that the crew couldn't see the attacker against the

1511
01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:10.840
blinding sun until it was too late.

1512
01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:13.920
Dance It's clever, mm hmm.

1513
01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:17.920
One brave gunner managed to get off a few shots,

1514
01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:21.359
but the plane dropped its bomb and crashed into the sea.

1515
01:25:22.520 --> 01:25:25.199
The bomb went straight through the ship's steel decks and

1516
01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:30.800
exploded underwater. Oh wow. Yeah, so it punched a hole

1517
01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:33.319
right through the ship and exploded underneath it. Yeah, I

1518
01:25:33.359 --> 01:25:40.359
guess that might be. That's probably better. Maybe hopefully maybe

1519
01:25:40.600 --> 01:25:46.039
the bomb went straight. Incidentally, had the Indianapolis been constructed

1520
01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:49.680
with the usual torpedo shielding, the armor piercing bomb would

1521
01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:53.239
have likely detonated inside the ship, killing many people and

1522
01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:55.359
possibly the Indianapolis herself.

1523
01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:57.439
Just like we just you just said.

1524
01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:00.319
I you know, this is a good article. It's not

1525
01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:02.239
mirror dot coda at uk, I'll tell you that much.

1526
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:07.920
Although Indy suffered a list, her crew managed to dog

1527
01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:12.159
or seal the ship's hatches to prevent flooding. Nine people

1528
01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:14.680
were killed in the attack and given a burial at sea.

1529
01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:19.920
After a brief emergency patch up at the Karama Reto

1530
01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:23.720
off Okinawa, Indy limped back to the United States on

1531
01:26:23.760 --> 01:26:29.439
her own power for repairs. So a pretty formidable ship.

1532
01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:31.520
Yeah, and.

1533
01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:39.600
It gets even more intense because its next mission is

1534
01:26:39.680 --> 01:26:45.520
pretty pretty serious. Yeah, Indianapolis spent weeks undergoing a complete

1535
01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:49.600
overhaul at Mayor Island Naval Yard. While repairs were underway,

1536
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:53.760
the cruiser was chosen for a top secret mission transporting

1537
01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:58.119
the components of the uranium bomb to the American base

1538
01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:02.399
and Tinian. I don't know if you if you knew

1539
01:27:02.399 --> 01:27:04.479
about this, but they used an atomic bomb in World

1540
01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:05.520
War Two on Japan.

1541
01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:11.359
Yeah, I don't. I don't think I've ever heard about that.

1542
01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:14.319
Like, that doesn't sound right. I think you're mistaken.

1543
01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:17.039
Yeah.

1544
01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:21.640
The Indianapolis was chosen chosen simply because she was available

1545
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:23.479
at the time, and no one on the ship knew

1546
01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:27.720
what their mysterious mission was really about. Although many of

1547
01:27:27.760 --> 01:27:31.239
the crew placed bets that that sounds like naval people.

1548
01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:33.079
I've known they'd be betting on it.

1549
01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:35.960
Yeah. I wonder how many people bet it was like

1550
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:39.319
a something that could blow them up really easily.

1551
01:27:39.479 --> 01:27:43.000
I'm sure some people were like, it's big bomb, giant bomb,

1552
01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:45.479
and then it's like, haha, you didn't even know how

1553
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:50.199
big of a bomb yet. Captain McVeigh was given his

1554
01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:53.520
orders to travel to Hunter's Point to load a secret cargo,

1555
01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:58.079
then refuel at Pearl Harbor and make all speed for Tinian.

1556
01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:01.359
The cargo consisted of a which was placed in one

1557
01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:05.640
of the ship's empty hangars and welded to the floor. Wow,

1558
01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:10.119
that would make people wonder m m. And a steel

1559
01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:17.079
canister that was accompanied by two somewhat suspicious Army artillery officers. Oh. Wow,

1560
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:22.199
The officers were really radiologists James Nolan and engineer Robert Furman,

1561
01:28:22.920 --> 01:28:25.640
two men who worked on the top secret Manhattan Project.

1562
01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:29.319
The canister contained uranium two three five for what would

1563
01:28:29.319 --> 01:28:32.800
become the Little Boy bomb dropped on Hiroshima just a

1564
01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:39.680
few weeks later. Wow, I mean, I think that's pretty fascinating.

1565
01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:41.600
It's yeah, it is.

1566
01:28:41.960 --> 01:28:44.399
And why would you tell them, you know, you're transporting

1567
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:46.760
like a thing to be used to make the biggest

1568
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:49.239
bomb ever known to humankind, because.

1569
01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:50.920
It would be fun and then you could talk to

1570
01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:53.960
about it for the lulls. Yeah.

1571
01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:56.439
I mean, I'm sure the moment that radiologists got drunk,

1572
01:28:56.439 --> 01:28:58.520
he was like, oh, he tell you what's in that CRT.

1573
01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:03.359
I don't know that's what drunk people sound like. I assume.

1574
01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:05.119
Yeah.

1575
01:29:05.159 --> 01:29:10.319
On sixteenth July forty fifth, Indianapolis set off for her mission.

1576
01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:12.720
The ship set a speed record on the trip from

1577
01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:15.760
California to Pearl Harbor, which remains unbroken.

1578
01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:18.119
Wow.

1579
01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:20.680
Yeah, that's pretty surprising.

1580
01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:26.960
Do you really want to get that off the ship? Yeah.

1581
01:29:27.079 --> 01:29:30.239
During the refueling stop in Hawaii, one crewman, radio Technician

1582
01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:34.239
second class Clarence Donner, was ordered to Officer candidate school,

1583
01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:36.720
and by a great stroke of luck, left the ship

1584
01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:39.640
before it got underway for Tinian. The rest of the

1585
01:29:39.680 --> 01:29:42.640
crew raced at an average speed of twenty nine knots

1586
01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:45.880
to the Marianas and unloaded the mystery cargo and the

1587
01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:50.600
two artillery officers. Under the observation of many admirals and

1588
01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:54.680
high ranking military officials. None of the crew could fathom

1589
01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:58.039
what could be so important until weeks later.

1590
01:29:58.680 --> 01:30:00.680
Oh you don't know that they couldn't fathom it.

1591
01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:05.439
I would be pretty nervous if I was working on

1592
01:30:05.520 --> 01:30:08.399
a naval ship and like, we like arrive at this

1593
01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:11.319
tiny port somewhere near where the war is being fought,

1594
01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:15.319
and it's just all admirals and like polypolitical leaders. I'd

1595
01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:22.039
be like, mmm, uh my first guest, though, for the record,

1596
01:30:22.279 --> 01:30:24.520
I would guess Hitler was in the in the crate.

1597
01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:29.720
I think is it Hitler? Is Hitler? It's Hitler, isn't it?

1598
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:30.399
Yeah?

1599
01:30:30.479 --> 01:30:31.600
Why we're dead, doesn't matter.

1600
01:30:31.600 --> 01:30:34.800
It's yeah, he's in the crate. I was gonna say Cryptid,

1601
01:30:34.920 --> 01:30:36.600
but I guess it can be Hitler.

1602
01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:42.000
It could be the hip Hitler Cryptid. Yeah, hasn't dropped yet.

1603
01:30:44.039 --> 01:30:52.399
Switch it out. From Tinny. From Tinny and Indie travel

1604
01:30:52.479 --> 01:30:55.800
to Guam, where Captain McVeigh hoped to secure some training

1605
01:30:55.880 --> 01:30:59.239
for his crew. Wow, that's harsh. Just look at you.

1606
01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:02.479
Guys need training. It's like you just broke a naval record.

1607
01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:07.359
They're like, yeah, yeah, don't want y'all resting on your laurels.

1608
01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:09.800
I almost went with a like a pirate voice, which

1609
01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:10.840
now I kind of wish I had.

1610
01:31:11.159 --> 01:31:12.359
Yeah.

1611
01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:18.720
Yeah, I'm Captain McVay of the USS Indianapolis. So many

1612
01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:21.600
of the men were brand new and in desperate need

1613
01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:23.680
of training that had been put off by their hasty

1614
01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:28.439
departure from California. Wom no longer offered the training McVeigh wanted,

1615
01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:31.159
but the captain was assured that arrangements would be made

1616
01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:36.680
for gunnery practice upon their arrival at Lady. Uh oh

1617
01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:37.600
that's not good.

1618
01:31:37.920 --> 01:31:45.520
No, no, this is why you don't get training. Oh

1619
01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:48.439
oh yeah, you just die instead.

1620
01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:50.479
See, at first, I thought your point was going to

1621
01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:52.239
be that the lack of training is why there was

1622
01:31:52.279 --> 01:31:54.359
so much problems. But no, you're saying it was the

1623
01:31:54.399 --> 01:31:58.520
desire for training, cause everything exactly. I respect that. I

1624
01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:02.920
respect that Indianapolis was quite used to traveling without an escort,

1625
01:32:03.039 --> 01:32:05.439
having done so many times. But the captain asked the

1626
01:32:05.479 --> 01:32:08.960
island's commander if there happened to be other ships traveling

1627
01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:12.479
to Laty at the same time. The commander said no,

1628
01:32:13.039 --> 01:32:16.920
and Captain McVeigh thought nothing else of it. The next morning, Saturday,

1629
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:20.880
twenty eighth of July, the Indianapolis began her fateful journey

1630
01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:25.279
to the Philippines. The following day, they passed an unidentified

1631
01:32:25.399 --> 01:32:30.159
LST known to be LST seven seventy nine. What's LST?

1632
01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:33.640
Didn't they say? It was unidentified?

1633
01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:35.840
Yeah, but what does LST stand for?

1634
01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:37.600
But then how come they identified it?

1635
01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:53.439
LST's served across the globe. What what does LST stand for? Oh?

1636
01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:59.239
Local service tax? Thank you? It corrected WW two to

1637
01:32:59.479 --> 01:33:04.079
W two. That's why it said LST is a landing

1638
01:33:04.079 --> 01:33:07.279
ship tank. Oh okay, So like those things that they

1639
01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:10.399
you know, you see open up on the beaches of Normandy. Okay,

1640
01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:15.720
in movies and stuff. Okay known as LST seven seventy nine,

1641
01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:18.720
now known to be LSTs so it was unidentified at

1642
01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:22.640
the time, and established a brief contact before moving on

1643
01:33:22.720 --> 01:33:26.199
to allow the little ship to conduct its own firing exercises.

1644
01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:30.039
This was the last friendly ship ever to make contact

1645
01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:35.560
with the USS Indianapolis. And we'll get into the harrowing

1646
01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:48.720
elements right after this. Let's jump back into the USS Indianapolis.

1647
01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:53.800
The ship had been zigzagging, a maneuver designed to avoid torpedoes,

1648
01:33:53.960 --> 01:33:58.319
since Guam previously assured before departure that there were no

1649
01:33:58.760 --> 01:34:02.760
submarines and active submarines in the area of Indie's route.

1650
01:34:02.840 --> 01:34:05.760
Captain McVeigh ceased zigzagging on the night of the twenty

1651
01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:10.359
ninth June due to poor visibility, unbeknownst to the Indianapolis crew.

1652
01:34:10.479 --> 01:34:15.840
Japanese submarine I fifty eight under the command of Mochitsura Hashimoto.

1653
01:34:16.399 --> 01:34:21.800
I think I said that, Mochisura Hachimoto. That sounds right. Yeah,

1654
01:34:21.960 --> 01:34:23.840
you're the one who tried, like wants to learn to

1655
01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:26.560
speak Japanese. I was hoping you for a little help

1656
01:34:26.600 --> 01:34:26.880
from you.

1657
01:34:28.439 --> 01:34:31.800
I think there's like a I think I think your

1658
01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:33.880
accenting is wrong, but that's.

1659
01:34:33.720 --> 01:34:36.760
Okay, mochitsura Hashimoto.

1660
01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:40.960
Yeah, you're you're accenting the two instead of the one.

1661
01:34:41.359 --> 01:34:43.319
Well, then say it, say say it the right way.

1662
01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:46.479
I need to see the first word because I.

1663
01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:49.560
M O C H I T s U r A.

1664
01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:57.880
I don't, I can't mochit sura, mochitsua.

1665
01:34:58.079 --> 01:35:06.479
That sounds right, that sounds Japanese. Fine, Hashimoto.

1666
01:35:08.159 --> 01:35:08.800
I think.

1667
01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:13.800
They see what I put up with. Everybody. Well, they

1668
01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:18.680
were patrolling nearby and spotted the cruiser just before midnight.

1669
01:35:19.079 --> 01:35:22.680
Commander Hashimoto originally thought Indy was a battleship and was

1670
01:35:22.720 --> 01:35:26.199
perplexed by her lack of an escort, but ordered torpedoes

1671
01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:29.800
at the ready. He performed a few calculations ensuring a

1672
01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:32.920
hit even if the ship began to zigzag, and gave

1673
01:35:33.119 --> 01:35:39.640
order the order to fire six torpedoes. I feel like

1674
01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:40.840
that's a lot of torpedoes.

1675
01:35:40.960 --> 01:35:43.159
I don't know how many torpedoes is the normal amount

1676
01:35:43.199 --> 01:35:44.560
of torpedoes.

1677
01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:47.039
It's fair. Within a few minutes, just after midnight on

1678
01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:50.560
the thirtieth of July, two of these torpedoes slammed into

1679
01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:55.199
Indie's starboard side aboard the cruiser. The explosions rocked the

1680
01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:58.680
ship men were thrown from their bunks, tossed across a room,

1681
01:35:59.039 --> 01:36:01.760
or jolted fifty feet in the air by the force.

1682
01:36:02.119 --> 01:36:03.920
Oh that is a lot of force.

1683
01:36:04.359 --> 01:36:05.720
Yeah, that's a lot of feet.

1684
01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:10.000
Well, I mean if there were one, like one, one

1685
01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:12.319
hundred whatever men, that means there's two thy two hundred

1686
01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:15.039
and some feet on the ship.

1687
01:36:15.199 --> 01:36:15.840
That's true.

1688
01:36:16.359 --> 01:36:18.520
Or foots if you prefer foots.

1689
01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:20.960
I guess we can do foots.

1690
01:36:21.640 --> 01:36:24.439
One man who had abandoned the hot and stuffy interior

1691
01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:26.720
to sleep on deck near the front of the ship,

1692
01:36:27.079 --> 01:36:30.359
said that the bow practically fell away in an instant.

1693
01:36:31.159 --> 01:36:34.199
Water poured in through the gaping holes in the starboard side,

1694
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:38.239
and Indy began to list. Captain McVeigh, instantly awakened by

1695
01:36:38.239 --> 01:36:41.680
the explosions, initially believed they could stop the flooding, just

1696
01:36:41.720 --> 01:36:43.039
as they had in Okinawa.

1697
01:36:43.239 --> 01:36:43.560
M hm.

1698
01:36:43.960 --> 01:36:47.239
The crew manned their general quarters stations, but it quickly

1699
01:36:47.279 --> 01:36:53.239
became clear there was nothing anyone could do. Imagine, and

1700
01:36:53.279 --> 01:36:57.039
honestly imagine, like you almost sank once before too, Like

1701
01:36:57.159 --> 01:37:01.239
that's I don't know, like psychologically, you know, like you

1702
01:37:01.720 --> 01:37:04.880
had what because most of these people were newer, so

1703
01:37:04.960 --> 01:37:06.640
they had what they thought was like the worst thing

1704
01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:08.800
that could ever happen when the bomb went right through

1705
01:37:08.840 --> 01:37:12.880
the ship. And now it's like, no, you just flat

1706
01:37:12.880 --> 01:37:16.239
out got hit by torpedoes and you're sinking like there's

1707
01:37:16.279 --> 01:37:23.800
no there's no turning this one around. It's terrifying. With

1708
01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:28.039
the ship's communications out, McVeigh ordered the abandoned ship order,

1709
01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:33.800
passed on by word of mouth. Oh, like playing tele

1710
01:37:34.239 --> 01:37:36.960
like playing telephone. We have to abandon ship. We have

1711
01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:38.439
to abandon ship. By the end of it. It's like

1712
01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:40.960
we have to eat fish and shrimp.

1713
01:37:41.720 --> 01:37:45.159
Mm hmm what and that's exactly what they did.

1714
01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:51.640
Oh, that sounds so good. I'm hungry. Okay, leave me alone.

1715
01:37:52.720 --> 01:37:55.840
Some men had already had jumped already, but hundreds more

1716
01:37:55.880 --> 01:37:59.000
followed suit, most grabbing one of the many life jackets

1717
01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:03.479
on deck before plunying into the oil coated water. Oh

1718
01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:06.800
were there not lifeboats or were there just very few?

1719
01:38:08.359 --> 01:38:10.439
Or were they destroyed? I didn't even think about that,

1720
01:38:10.479 --> 01:38:12.479
because the starboard size is probably where the lifeboats are.

1721
01:38:12.520 --> 01:38:17.359
Maybe maybe the cruiser rolled onto its side and many crew,

1722
01:38:17.399 --> 01:38:20.720
including the captain, climbed over the rail and walked down

1723
01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:23.560
the side of the ship before stepping into the water

1724
01:38:24.279 --> 01:38:25.439
the screws.

1725
01:38:25.079 --> 01:38:27.560
Or oh sorry, that must have been like really disturbing,

1726
01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:29.159
like just walking off the side of the stay.

1727
01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:33.039
Yeah, yeah, oh, that would be very like I imagine.

1728
01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:35.479
The only reason you wouldn't be like whoa is the

1729
01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:37.920
adrenaline would probably cancel that out and make you just

1730
01:38:37.960 --> 01:38:42.359
go foot, next foot, foot, next foot. Adrenaline's good like that.

1731
01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:47.039
Adrenalin's real good at reminding you foot and then next foot,

1732
01:38:47.520 --> 01:38:50.920
and then foot and then next foot. In my experience, anyway,

1733
01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:55.920
I guess the screws or propellers rose into the air

1734
01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:59.239
for just a few moments before sinking beneath the waves

1735
01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:03.359
and disappearing. The USS Indianapolis sank in less than twelve minutes,

1736
01:39:03.399 --> 01:39:07.119
taking over three hundred crew with her, leaving almost nine

1737
01:39:07.279 --> 01:39:10.640
hundred men stranded in the middle of the ocean of

1738
01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:11.520
the Pacific Ocean.

1739
01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:12.399
Wow.

1740
01:39:14.399 --> 01:39:17.840
The story of the Indianapolis crews five horrific days in

1741
01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:21.119
the water is well known, although often with popular rumors

1742
01:39:21.119 --> 01:39:24.720
clouding the true facts. Contrary to the testimony of Captain

1743
01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:28.039
Quint from the movie Jaws, sharks played a minimal role

1744
01:39:28.079 --> 01:39:30.560
in the deaths of the crewmen at sea, although they

1745
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:33.439
fed on many of the bodies after the men had died.

1746
01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:35.960
I mean that makes sense. It's easier to be on

1747
01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:36.560
dead people.

1748
01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:39.119
Oh yeah, well I just saw that the movie Deep Water,

1749
01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:40.840
and that's what the sharks. It was a plane crash

1750
01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:42.960
in the ocean, and that's what the sharks went after first,

1751
01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:46.880
was the dead bodies floating around. I don't want to

1752
01:39:46.920 --> 01:39:50.279
say that. I mean I get yeah that it like,

1753
01:39:50.399 --> 01:39:55.159
it's a very exciting concept, the idea like that, and

1754
01:39:55.159 --> 01:39:58.680
then they were attacked by sharks. It's very like wild concept.

1755
01:39:59.199 --> 01:40:02.880
But for the people there who are like holding on

1756
01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:05.960
for dear life and just watching sharks like eating the

1757
01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:09.159
bodies of their crewmates all around them, that sounds like

1758
01:40:09.239 --> 01:40:13.439
hell on Earth. I mean, that sounds so unbelievably terrifying.

1759
01:40:14.600 --> 01:40:15.720
Yeah, it really does.

1760
01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:19.279
Yeah, even if even if the sharks literally never attacked

1761
01:40:19.279 --> 01:40:22.920
a single living person, Yeah, just that image would make me.

1762
01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:25.159
I would be I would be scared out of my mind.

1763
01:40:25.199 --> 01:40:28.039
I would be positive, like, what if they're still hungry

1764
01:40:28.079 --> 01:40:32.439
when they're done? What if more come? Like I like, yeah,

1765
01:40:32.560 --> 01:40:39.920
I find this to be truly truly mortifying. So yeah,

1766
01:40:43.079 --> 01:40:45.600
more than one hundred men died on the first night

1767
01:40:45.640 --> 01:40:49.119
in the water from injuries suffered during the torpedo attack.

1768
01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:52.720
Over the next few days, more survivors succumbed, mostly to

1769
01:40:52.800 --> 01:40:57.239
exposure and salt water induced illness, although shark attacks did

1770
01:40:57.279 --> 01:41:01.560
claim the lives of some. Severe dehydration set in and

1771
01:41:01.640 --> 01:41:05.279
hallucinations and extreme thirst drove men to drink the ocean water,

1772
01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:11.640
which exacerbated their condition and killed many. Some men simply

1773
01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:16.520
gave up hope and quietly drowned. The crew was strung

1774
01:41:16.560 --> 01:41:20.199
out in groups of varying sizes across miles of ocean,

1775
01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:23.920
and these groups floated further away as the wind and

1776
01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:27.359
waves drove them apart over the next few days. Few

1777
01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:31.640
of them knew how many others had survived, if indeed

1778
01:41:31.720 --> 01:41:35.239
anyone else had survived. That's terrifying too. Yeah, if you're

1779
01:41:35.239 --> 01:41:37.359
getting separated and it's like at the moment they're out

1780
01:41:37.399 --> 01:41:39.239
of sight, it's like, are they all dead? Like nearly

1781
01:41:39.279 --> 01:41:42.520
everybody else is dead. Yeah, because the fact that it

1782
01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:46.399
was days on the water, Like, I know, war is hell,

1783
01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:52.199
but usually like once a cruiser sunk, like even the

1784
01:41:52.359 --> 01:41:55.760
enemy would inform if there's a ton of survivors would

1785
01:41:55.760 --> 01:42:01.479
inform their enemy. Not always I mean, but I mean

1786
01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:03.880
generally I mean literally, they talked about the boat had

1787
01:42:03.960 --> 01:42:08.600
less shielding because of a like agreement in war, which

1788
01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:11.359
to me is wild too, that let's have some rules

1789
01:42:11.479 --> 01:42:12.560
while we kill each other.

1790
01:42:13.039 --> 01:42:14.319
Yeah.

1791
01:42:14.760 --> 01:42:17.640
I don't know. It's just terrifying, and I would just assume,

1792
01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:20.039
you know, being there after two days, I would think, Oh,

1793
01:42:20.119 --> 01:42:26.920
then nobody is literally ever coming. If nobody's come yet, yeah, yeah.

1794
01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:29.880
Those who were still able to hope continued to tell

1795
01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:35.239
themselves that surely tomorrow help would arrive. Someone had to

1796
01:42:35.279 --> 01:42:41.039
be looking for them. Unfortunately, for the Indianapolis crew, no

1797
01:42:41.039 --> 01:42:45.680
one ever received their distress signal, nor was anyone expecting

1798
01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:49.520
them at Lady until the thirty first of July. That's

1799
01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:55.279
a month. Oh yeah, I'm pretty certain that they sank

1800
01:42:55.479 --> 01:43:01.840
on the thirtieth of June.

1801
01:43:02.119 --> 01:43:04.359
Yeah, that's a problem.

1802
01:43:06.319 --> 01:43:09.520
Oh wait, no, I'm wrong. Wait, huh, I'm sorry. I

1803
01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:12.720
misread that. Oh that was really exciting too, but I

1804
01:43:12.760 --> 01:43:15.560
was wrong. Twentieth of July is when they began their journey,

1805
01:43:15.600 --> 01:43:18.840
So if they were expecting them on the thirty first,

1806
01:43:18.920 --> 01:43:23.119
it was Oh. It was not uncommon for combat ships

1807
01:43:23.159 --> 01:43:26.159
to be rerouted from their original assignments, and since Indianapolis

1808
01:43:26.199 --> 01:43:29.680
was the flagship for Admiral Spruance. No one thought much

1809
01:43:29.720 --> 01:43:32.119
about it when the cruiser failed to arrive on schedule.

1810
01:43:32.199 --> 01:43:33.399
Okay, okay, okay.

1811
01:43:33.840 --> 01:43:35.560
Well, at first with the context, I was like, wait

1812
01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:39.039
did I read June. In fact, the Indianapolis was never

1813
01:43:39.119 --> 01:43:40.720
actually reported missing.

1814
01:43:41.399 --> 01:43:42.239
Wow.

1815
01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:45.039
Even if it had, it would have been too late

1816
01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:48.119
for many of them, who died before their reported arrival time,

1817
01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:51.960
almost two days after the ship was sunk. No one

1818
01:43:52.079 --> 01:43:57.359
was looking for the crew of the Indianapolis. Oh, on

1819
01:43:57.399 --> 01:43:59.119
that note, We're going to take a break and come

1820
01:43:59.159 --> 01:44:01.439
back and maybe the story you'll get a little bit happier.

1821
01:44:01.439 --> 01:44:02.960
But I know Michelle would like it to not.

1822
01:44:04.039 --> 01:44:06.520
Yeah, right after this.

1823
01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:21.439
Eventually help did come for the USS and Indianapolis, well

1824
01:44:21.479 --> 01:44:25.079
for the crew of the ship because the ship was gone.

1825
01:44:27.039 --> 01:44:30.760
Well now it's in Camden, which isn't that much better

1826
01:44:31.039 --> 01:44:35.199
than what you want to go live in Camden?

1827
01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:37.439
No, I was agreeing with.

1828
01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:40.479
I was gonna say. I was like, I feel like,

1829
01:44:40.600 --> 01:44:44.159
of all of East Coast places, we see eye to

1830
01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:49.239
eye on Camden, New Jersey. Yeah, because Cherry Hill has

1831
01:44:49.279 --> 01:44:57.239
some spots that are okay, there's yet. Help did finally

1832
01:44:57.239 --> 01:44:59.600
come after the Indianapolis crew had been in the water

1833
01:44:59.720 --> 01:45:01.479
for over three days.

1834
01:45:01.880 --> 01:45:02.239
Okay.

1835
01:45:02.840 --> 01:45:05.960
On the second of August, Navy pilot Chuck Gwynn was

1836
01:45:05.960 --> 01:45:09.640
traveling over the Pacific on a routine patrol flight. During

1837
01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:12.600
that flight, he moved to the back of his aircraft

1838
01:45:12.600 --> 01:45:14.840
to fix an antenna when he looked down at the

1839
01:45:14.840 --> 01:45:20.399
ocean below and spotted a large oil slick. Then he

1840
01:45:20.520 --> 01:45:24.560
noticed the objects in the water and realized they were people.

1841
01:45:26.479 --> 01:45:29.880
Gwyn immediately radioed back to his base that there were

1842
01:45:30.199 --> 01:45:33.720
ducks on the pond or men in the water, and

1843
01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:38.960
all available craft were ordered to the rescue. Aircraft and

1844
01:45:39.079 --> 01:45:43.000
warship warships raced toward the coordinates Gwin sent out. The

1845
01:45:43.039 --> 01:45:46.079
Indianapolis had sunk so quickly that many men who had

1846
01:45:46.079 --> 01:45:49.039
been asleep had no time to dress, and the men

1847
01:45:49.119 --> 01:45:52.199
were half naked or were naked or half dressed and

1848
01:45:52.279 --> 01:45:55.119
covered in oil when their rescuers fished them out of

1849
01:45:55.119 --> 01:45:59.399
the water. I'm just saying, sounds like cope. I think

1850
01:45:59.399 --> 01:46:01.600
they made up the part. They were like, oh, yeah, no,

1851
01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:03.359
it happened, and we were like, we couldn't. We didn't

1852
01:46:03.359 --> 01:46:04.199
have time to get dressed.

1853
01:46:04.520 --> 01:46:07.399
Yeah, we weren't doing anything. We were just saying there's a.

1854
01:46:07.359 --> 01:46:09.520
Whole other reason why they were naked and oiled up.

1855
01:46:10.159 --> 01:46:13.199
And I'm not saying anything perverted. I'm saying that they

1856
01:46:13.239 --> 01:46:19.000
were dehydrated and in the sun and scared for days. Fine,

1857
01:46:19.159 --> 01:46:21.359
I mean, I'm okay, fine. You know, if you want

1858
01:46:21.359 --> 01:46:22.760
to judge them, you can go right ahead.

1859
01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:25.239
I wasn't going to judge them.

1860
01:46:25.720 --> 01:46:27.079
I think you were going to judge them.

1861
01:46:27.199 --> 01:46:29.479
Oh, I think they can do whatever they want. And

1862
01:46:29.520 --> 01:46:30.880
it's fine.

1863
01:46:31.199 --> 01:46:34.359
Okay, it didn't. That wasn't the tone you were giving before.

1864
01:46:34.399 --> 01:46:40.199
But all right. It took almost two days to find

1865
01:46:40.319 --> 01:46:41.560
all of the survivors.

1866
01:46:41.680 --> 01:46:42.399
Oh jeez.

1867
01:46:44.960 --> 01:46:47.840
Of the one hundred and ninety seven crewmen, only three

1868
01:46:47.960 --> 01:46:51.439
hundred and twenty men were found alive, and four of

1869
01:46:51.479 --> 01:46:58.000
these died after rescue. Yeah, the men were taken to

1870
01:46:58.039 --> 01:47:07.119
hospitals to recover, finally saved from their nightmarish ordeal. I

1871
01:47:07.119 --> 01:47:10.159
I don't know, Like, to me, this is the kind

1872
01:47:10.159 --> 01:47:13.039
of thing that I'll actually like if I'm driving somewhere. Ever,

1873
01:47:13.159 --> 01:47:15.000
you ever drive somewhere and you don't put on music

1874
01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:19.039
because you're like it's gonna be like a really quick drive. No,

1875
01:47:20.520 --> 01:47:24.960
you always have music on. Yeah, sometimes when I drive places,

1876
01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:26.720
and I'll drive in silence. And this is the kind

1877
01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:29.760
of thing I think about. Yeah, Like I imagine, just

1878
01:47:29.800 --> 01:47:31.520
like what would it be like, how would I feel?

1879
01:47:31.560 --> 01:47:34.600
How would I survive it? You know, how would I

1880
01:47:34.800 --> 01:47:39.439
handle it? It's it's I don't know the definition of

1881
01:47:39.520 --> 01:47:40.319
mortifying to me.

1882
01:47:40.840 --> 01:47:43.720
Yeah, I think you could do it, thanks pal.

1883
01:47:44.640 --> 01:47:48.920
I mean I I can kind of swim. So there's that.

1884
01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:51.560
And you might have a life vest on too.

1885
01:47:52.159 --> 01:47:55.119
Yeah. See, now you're being positive and I appreciate that,

1886
01:47:56.720 --> 01:47:57.720
even if it's a lie.

1887
01:47:59.319 --> 01:47:59.399
No.

1888
01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:03.479
The story of the USS Indianapolis did not end there

1889
01:48:04.319 --> 01:48:07.119
After the war, Captain McVeigh was court martialed for the

1890
01:48:07.159 --> 01:48:07.960
loss of his ship.

1891
01:48:10.840 --> 01:48:12.600
What that seems mean?

1892
01:48:13.479 --> 01:48:17.640
The trial invited national scandal by bringing Commander Hashimoto to

1893
01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:24.960
the United States to testify against McVeigh. What. Although Hashimoto

1894
01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:27.760
and others insisted that it would have made no difference,

1895
01:48:27.840 --> 01:48:34.239
McVeigh was convicted of hazarding his ship by failing to zigzag. Well,

1896
01:48:37.359 --> 01:48:40.840
I mean, in hindsight, that wasn't a great call. But

1897
01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:43.600
they but he claimed that visibility was low. I mean,

1898
01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:45.239
what if they had hit something.

1899
01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:47.199
Well, then the same thing would have happened.

1900
01:48:49.439 --> 01:48:52.960
Maybe, of course, they weren't expecting there to be. He

1901
01:48:53.119 --> 01:48:55.279
was told that there were no submarines in that area.

1902
01:48:56.039 --> 01:48:58.239
But I mean, isn't it the point of when you're

1903
01:48:58.239 --> 01:49:02.119
doing war stuff to be not detected by the other people's.

1904
01:49:03.119 --> 01:49:05.560
You know, you'd think that, But it's not exactly like

1905
01:49:05.600 --> 01:49:08.239
playing battleship, which, by the way, we should play battleship

1906
01:49:08.279 --> 01:49:10.760
over the like over the phone or something that would

1907
01:49:10.760 --> 01:49:11.159
be fun.

1908
01:49:11.560 --> 01:49:13.319
Yeah, we could do that, I guess.

1909
01:49:13.680 --> 01:49:15.079
I wonder if there's a way to do that. I

1910
01:49:15.119 --> 01:49:16.720
know there's a way on iPhones, but you don't have

1911
01:49:16.720 --> 01:49:27.600
an iPhone. No good times anyway. Sorry, I'm I'm the worst. Wow.

1912
01:49:28.520 --> 01:49:32.079
Many families of the crewmen lost at sea, Well, I

1913
01:49:32.159 --> 01:49:35.199
just I just had a thought, though Hashimoto and others

1914
01:49:35.199 --> 01:49:36.920
insisted that it would have made no difference. Of course,

1915
01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:39.079
Hashimoto insisted would have made no difference. He's like, I

1916
01:49:39.119 --> 01:49:40.439
would have been able to hit the ship no matter

1917
01:49:40.479 --> 01:49:42.760
what I am. I was the best general in that

1918
01:49:42.840 --> 01:49:43.880
war that I just lost.

1919
01:49:44.119 --> 01:49:48.199
Yeah, yeah, awkward.

1920
01:49:49.399 --> 01:49:52.239
Many families of the crewmen lost at sea Blaine McVeigh

1921
01:49:52.239 --> 01:49:54.159
for their for the loss of their loved ones, and

1922
01:49:54.199 --> 01:49:57.760
the captain received hate mail from these families until he

1923
01:49:57.800 --> 01:50:00.319
eventually took his own life in November of my eighteen

1924
01:50:00.399 --> 01:50:05.840
sixty eight. The surviving crew fought for years to get

1925
01:50:05.840 --> 01:50:10.399
their captain exonerated. That's pretty nice, m I mean that

1926
01:50:10.479 --> 01:50:15.000
his crew cared even after everything. Yeah, enlisting the help

1927
01:50:15.039 --> 01:50:20.760
of Captain William Toti, commander of the submarine USS Indianapolis. Okay,

1928
01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:24.279
so they made a submarine with that name. They finally

1929
01:50:24.319 --> 01:50:27.680
succeeded in clearing Captain mcveigh's name and expunging the court

1930
01:50:27.720 --> 01:50:31.039
martial from his record in two thousand and one.

1931
01:50:32.479 --> 01:50:32.960
That's nice.

1932
01:50:32.960 --> 01:50:35.159
It's at least a little bit of happy that they

1933
01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:37.079
fought for his honor later on.

1934
01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:40.479
I mean, he was dead already and the damage had

1935
01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:41.239
already been done.

1936
01:50:41.279 --> 01:50:43.880
But you know, wow, So what you're saying is they

1937
01:50:43.880 --> 01:50:45.520
all should have just like shut up and done something

1938
01:50:45.520 --> 01:50:46.479
else and forgot about it.

1939
01:50:46.760 --> 01:50:49.199
I mean I was gonna say, but it's still nice.

1940
01:50:49.960 --> 01:50:51.079
Oh you were going to say it. I don't think

1941
01:50:51.119 --> 01:50:51.840
you were going to say that.

1942
01:50:53.239 --> 01:50:53.640
Maybe.

1943
01:50:54.840 --> 01:50:58.560
Oh boy. The rex site of the USS Indianapolis eluded

1944
01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:02.319
underwater archaeologists for decades. It was finally discovered by the

1945
01:51:02.359 --> 01:51:05.600
crew of the research vegil vessel Petrel in August of

1946
01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:08.880
twenty seventeen, more than seventy two years after the ship

1947
01:51:08.960 --> 01:51:12.039
sank beneath the waves and disappeared. By then, most of

1948
01:51:12.079 --> 01:51:14.399
the survivors had passed away, but a few of them

1949
01:51:14.640 --> 01:51:17.800
were able to hear the news their ship had finally

1950
01:51:17.880 --> 01:51:21.439
been found. Her discovery gave closure to some families of

1951
01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:25.520
the lost at sea crewmen, although a few were concerned

1952
01:51:25.560 --> 01:51:28.159
that what the Navy would do with the remains of

1953
01:51:28.199 --> 01:51:31.239
the ship and her crewmen. The wreck is now considered

1954
01:51:31.279 --> 01:51:34.319
a grave site, the final resting place of around three

1955
01:51:34.439 --> 01:51:37.319
hundred men who never made it off the ship. It

1956
01:51:37.359 --> 01:51:39.960
also serves as a kind of memorial for the nearly

1957
01:51:40.079 --> 01:51:42.640
six hundred other men who never made it out of

1958
01:51:42.680 --> 01:51:46.239
the water. The discovery of the shipwreck finishes the story

1959
01:51:46.279 --> 01:51:50.279
of the final voyage of the USS Indianapolis, a horrific

1960
01:51:50.359 --> 01:51:53.439
and tragic end to a vessel and crew that served

1961
01:51:53.439 --> 01:51:57.479
their country with strength, commitment, and valor to the very end.

1962
01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:02.199
Yeah.

1963
01:52:02.239 --> 01:52:05.760
Look, I mean, I know it was a sad story,

1964
01:52:05.840 --> 01:52:09.520
but I thought that was a solid pick for Memorial Day. Okay,

1965
01:52:09.640 --> 01:52:12.439
So I man, I mean what a story?

1966
01:52:13.039 --> 01:52:17.720
Yeah sincerely, yeah yeah, yeah, You're like, yeah, what.

1967
01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:20.199
A horrible thing to bring up.

1968
01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:23.960
Thanks, Thanks, it's okay man, you.

1969
01:52:24.600 --> 01:52:31.239
Are on one tonight. No, Well, we're going to take

1970
01:52:31.279 --> 01:52:32.960
a quick break and when we come back, we're going

1971
01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:36.720
to wrap up this month's Monthly Spooky with some conversation

1972
01:52:36.800 --> 01:52:41.359
about some very interesting, fun and truly scary horror movies

1973
01:52:41.359 --> 01:52:46.159
in the theater, as well as Michelle's best of Reddit creepiness.

1974
01:52:46.640 --> 01:52:58.119
Right after this, and we're wrapping up this May twenty

1975
01:52:58.239 --> 01:53:03.960
twenty sixth edition of Monthly Spooky with three pretty solid

1976
01:53:04.479 --> 01:53:09.520
horror offerings in the theater that I went to see.

1977
01:53:09.600 --> 01:53:12.800
I'll start with one that is that I just referenced

1978
01:53:12.800 --> 01:53:15.760
deep Water, the one about the airplane crash in the ocean.

1979
01:53:16.800 --> 01:53:20.800
It was an action packed, silly fun ride with some

1980
01:53:20.880 --> 01:53:24.359
really good suspense. It I think is already out of

1981
01:53:24.399 --> 01:53:28.039
the theater. It flopped horror, but I enjoyed it. I

1982
01:53:28.079 --> 01:53:31.159
really did. At first, I was like, is this even

1983
01:53:31.199 --> 01:53:33.760
a horror movie? But then it got really brutal and

1984
01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:37.079
I was like, yeah, it's a horror movie where he's

1985
01:53:37.079 --> 01:53:40.399
just gonna you know. It was definitely gruesome and grotesque

1986
01:53:40.399 --> 01:53:45.560
in that way. Same day, I saw a film called Hocum,

1987
01:53:46.720 --> 01:53:50.239
which I was very curious about because the title hocum.

1988
01:53:51.079 --> 01:53:55.399
It's it's old style slang for bs or made up

1989
01:53:55.479 --> 01:53:59.439
or pretend or whatever, and it doesn't It didn't really

1990
01:53:59.439 --> 01:54:02.439
play like I'm major part the term hocum. He does

1991
01:54:02.479 --> 01:54:05.319
say hokum at one point when they talk about ghosts

1992
01:54:05.319 --> 01:54:07.880
in this hotel he's staying at, he just says hokum.

1993
01:54:08.359 --> 01:54:12.960
But it's a classic haunting story with revenge and murder,

1994
01:54:13.319 --> 01:54:16.479
and the atmosphere was solid. It takes place at a

1995
01:54:16.479 --> 01:54:22.159
hotel out in the countryside of Ireland, and I found

1996
01:54:22.159 --> 01:54:25.079
it to be very creepy and very satisfying, like it

1997
01:54:25.119 --> 01:54:28.520
was a fun, scary ghost story that really dragged you

1998
01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:33.159
in and made you worried for the human characters. So

1999
01:54:33.720 --> 01:54:36.840
I really liked Hokum. This year has been a really

2000
01:54:36.920 --> 01:54:40.479
good year for scary movies in the theater, not just

2001
01:54:40.520 --> 01:54:42.640
horror movies, but I mean movies that like made me

2002
01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:46.680
creeped out because we had this, we had the undertone,

2003
01:54:47.359 --> 01:54:51.800
really good stuff. And then a couple nights ago I

2004
01:54:51.840 --> 01:54:57.680
saw the brand new film Obsession, which is why is

2005
01:54:57.720 --> 01:54:58.359
your face like that?

2006
01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:01.159
I was trying to if I've heard of that, I

2007
01:55:01.159 --> 01:55:01.520
don't know.

2008
01:55:01.960 --> 01:55:04.640
It's it's become kind of big because some people have

2009
01:55:04.720 --> 01:55:07.239
tried to politicize it, which I think is probably not

2010
01:55:07.880 --> 01:55:11.680
fair to the movie. But it's basically, be careful if

2011
01:55:11.680 --> 01:55:14.159
you wish, be careful what you wish for a story.

2012
01:55:15.039 --> 01:55:17.239
I kept hearing I think I got over I liked it,

2013
01:55:17.319 --> 01:55:19.880
but I felt a little underwhelmed. But I think I

2014
01:55:19.920 --> 01:55:22.800
was oversold because people were friends were coming out of

2015
01:55:22.800 --> 01:55:26.039
the wood work saying like, it's brilliant, it's unbelievable, Da

2016
01:55:26.079 --> 01:55:27.880
da da, And I watched it, I was like, Oh,

2017
01:55:27.880 --> 01:55:30.119
this is like a really cool, clever, be careful what

2018
01:55:30.159 --> 01:55:34.840
you wish for a story, like I mean, like to

2019
01:55:34.880 --> 01:55:38.840
be honest, like the twists it took were really good,

2020
01:55:39.239 --> 01:55:42.840
but the concept was completely been It's been done yeah,

2021
01:55:42.840 --> 01:55:46.760
because basically, a guy wishes for a girl he wants

2022
01:55:46.800 --> 01:55:50.159
to date. He wishes that she would love him to

2023
01:55:50.239 --> 01:55:52.439
quote more than anyone on the world in the world,

2024
01:55:53.720 --> 01:55:56.880
and then she starts terrorizing him because she will never

2025
01:55:56.960 --> 01:56:00.600
let him alone sep. And the way they did it

2026
01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:03.319
was great. They did some really clever and wild stuff,

2027
01:56:04.239 --> 01:56:07.399
but it was still a be careful if you wish

2028
01:56:07.439 --> 01:56:10.439
for it story, And I mean I've seen stories where

2029
01:56:10.479 --> 01:56:13.640
they've done that, but it's like the woman or man

2030
01:56:13.800 --> 01:56:16.239
that they put that that spell on or whatever, like

2031
01:56:16.399 --> 01:56:19.760
eats them and stuff like. So it didn't even go

2032
01:56:21.039 --> 01:56:23.239
like as crazy in that way, but it had a

2033
01:56:23.239 --> 01:56:27.239
lot of great shocks, some great jump scares. There was

2034
01:56:27.279 --> 01:56:29.279
only one part that really kind of irked me because

2035
01:56:29.279 --> 01:56:31.560
at one point, when she was going crazy, you know,

2036
01:56:32.199 --> 01:56:36.359
doing all the crazy things she was doing, she said like,

2037
01:56:36.439 --> 01:56:39.279
this is what you wished for, and they had never

2038
01:56:39.439 --> 01:56:43.880
before and never after suggested that she knew about the wish,

2039
01:56:43.800 --> 01:56:49.199
which made because which made me wonder if like if

2040
01:56:49.399 --> 01:56:55.279
it's a benevolent spirit acting out his wish versus it

2041
01:56:55.479 --> 01:56:58.800
actually being like a compulsion that you can't predict. They

2042
01:56:58.840 --> 01:57:01.640
also did one thing that was interesting, which was that

2043
01:57:01.720 --> 01:57:06.239
the actual woman, his actual friend, would like occasionally come

2044
01:57:06.279 --> 01:57:09.000
out and be like help, help, help, like I'm trapped,

2045
01:57:09.359 --> 01:57:10.920
and then it would be back to the woman who's

2046
01:57:10.920 --> 01:57:13.439
obsessed with him, like she was hidden or buried. I

2047
01:57:13.560 --> 01:57:15.199
liked that, but that was the one part where I

2048
01:57:15.199 --> 01:57:16.720
was like, why would she say you wished for this?

2049
01:57:16.880 --> 01:57:17.680
Like why would she know?

2050
01:57:18.399 --> 01:57:19.239
Yeah, that's weird.

2051
01:57:19.800 --> 01:57:21.640
Yeah, so it may be the rest of the movie

2052
01:57:21.680 --> 01:57:24.840
I was wondering, like, is this like is this weird

2053
01:57:24.880 --> 01:57:29.439
wish thing, just like an evil entity that just like

2054
01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:32.800
carries out your wish because the way he gets the

2055
01:57:32.880 --> 01:57:36.920
wish is literally like a toy from the nineteen sixties

2056
01:57:37.720 --> 01:57:40.560
that you just like crack it open. It's called a

2057
01:57:40.560 --> 01:57:42.880
one wish willow. It's a willow stick you break and

2058
01:57:42.920 --> 01:57:44.720
you make a wish. You can only make one in

2059
01:57:44.760 --> 01:57:49.359
your life. And and uh, like he goes on Reddit

2060
01:57:49.359 --> 01:57:52.000
and literally people are like, it doesn't work. It absolutely works.

2061
01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:54.479
It's a total fraud. It doesn't work. It works amazingly.

2062
01:57:54.640 --> 01:57:56.800
And then some people going like it's a Mandela effect,

2063
01:57:56.880 --> 01:57:58.760
like it was really a funnye like he's trying to

2064
01:57:58.800 --> 01:58:02.560
research it. But yeah, it was a really solid movie

2065
01:58:02.560 --> 01:58:05.920
though I just wasn't quite as like shocked and blown

2066
01:58:05.920 --> 01:58:08.439
away as everybody around me seemed to be. But I

2067
01:58:08.479 --> 01:58:10.520
really did like it, and I'd really recommend going to

2068
01:58:10.520 --> 01:58:11.159
see in the theater.

2069
01:58:12.520 --> 01:58:12.800
Cool.

2070
01:58:12.880 --> 01:58:15.279
So, Chelle, what do you got for us? In the

2071
01:58:15.359 --> 01:58:16.279
land of Reddit?

2072
01:58:17.399 --> 01:58:20.079
I had some trouble. I kept finding things that are

2073
01:58:20.119 --> 01:58:24.359
not very interesting or that it was like have you

2074
01:58:24.439 --> 01:58:27.159
read it? Yeah, I feel like I've been to its

2075
01:58:27.199 --> 01:58:29.159
place before. It's like okay, but I don't know how

2076
01:58:29.159 --> 01:58:30.239
I can talk about that.

2077
01:58:31.640 --> 01:58:33.840
I mean, you can just say that we came up

2078
01:58:33.880 --> 01:58:36.039
with bup kiss and then make one up off the

2079
01:58:36.039 --> 01:58:36.760
top of your head.

2080
01:58:37.119 --> 01:58:39.720
No, I don't want to lie well, I mean, oh yeah,

2081
01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:40.600
I guess I could.

2082
01:58:40.640 --> 01:58:41.720
That wouldn't be lying at all.

2083
01:58:42.520 --> 01:58:42.800
Lying.

2084
01:58:44.439 --> 01:58:44.520
No.

2085
01:58:44.840 --> 01:58:48.239
So there was one that's kind of okay okay, where

2086
01:58:48.279 --> 01:58:53.079
there's this woman maybe and she has her niece over sometimes.

2087
01:58:53.199 --> 01:58:55.359
They like live in a different city, so her niece's

2088
01:58:55.399 --> 01:58:58.720
coming to stay. I think they're like, you know, teenagers,

2089
01:58:58.840 --> 01:59:02.319
like older teenagers, And her niece brought her friend and

2090
01:59:02.319 --> 01:59:03.920
they were there for a couple of days and then

2091
01:59:04.000 --> 01:59:06.319
they left, and her niece like called her and was like,

2092
01:59:06.359 --> 01:59:09.319
oh no, my friend left her hair straightener. Can you

2093
01:59:09.399 --> 01:59:11.560
find it? And like they see each other like once

2094
01:59:11.600 --> 01:59:13.319
a month, so she was gonna go like the next month.

2095
01:59:13.319 --> 01:59:14.520
So I was like, can you find it and then

2096
01:59:14.560 --> 01:59:18.199
bring it next month when you come. So so the

2097
01:59:18.239 --> 01:59:21.479
poster was like, sure, finds the hair straightener. It's like

2098
01:59:21.600 --> 01:59:24.600
just on her son's bed and puts it like on

2099
01:59:24.640 --> 01:59:27.680
a shelf because you know, so that she'll get it

2100
01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:30.640
next time when they were gonna go. So she's getting

2101
01:59:30.680 --> 01:59:34.439
ready to go a month later, and she can't find

2102
01:59:34.439 --> 01:59:37.439
the hair straightener anywhere. She's like, fuck, like somebody moved

2103
01:59:37.439 --> 01:59:38.720
it now I don't know where it is, and I

2104
01:59:38.720 --> 01:59:41.079
gotta go and I can't take the straightener. So she

2105
01:59:41.199 --> 01:59:44.439
goes and she tells her her niece, like, I'm really sorry,

2106
01:59:44.479 --> 01:59:46.439
I couldn't find the straightener. Her niece's like, oh no,

2107
01:59:46.680 --> 01:59:49.479
Like she ended up finding it like in a drawer,

2108
01:59:49.600 --> 01:59:52.319
So it's fine. So what happened to the strainer?

2109
01:59:54.439 --> 01:59:56.479
I mean that is a very classic glitch in the

2110
01:59:56.479 --> 01:59:59.760
matrix type thing. Yeah. When I was a kid, I

2111
01:59:59.800 --> 02:00:02.319
had this buddy named James, and we used to hang

2112
02:00:02.359 --> 02:00:04.560
out and like we'd do like nerdy stuff, like we'd

2113
02:00:04.680 --> 02:00:07.720
play video games or like land, we'd land our computers

2114
02:00:07.760 --> 02:00:11.479
and play video games or whatever. And one time we

2115
02:00:11.479 --> 02:00:14.119
were both looking for the remote control to the TV.

2116
02:00:14.399 --> 02:00:16.760
We couldn't find it, so we were both looking and

2117
02:00:16.880 --> 02:00:19.399
he had made a comment about like because I was like,

2118
02:00:19.439 --> 02:00:21.399
I swear, wasn't it over here somewhere? He's like, I

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thought it fell off the bed over here, And he

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had joked like what if we just both turned around

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and we both found it and then like one of

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them just evaporated. Yeah, and I was like, yeah, that's

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that's that's how that feels. So that one I couldn't

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explain other than I mean, maybe she already had a

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hair straightener, because the hair straightener, as far as we know,

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wasn't confirmed to actually be the other person's hair straightener.

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Or maybe she dreamed it.

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Yeah, I was thinking more like she dreamed it and

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she really thought that she like put it there, but

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she didn't because it wasn't really there.

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Yeah. See, the only difference is in my world, I

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would have dreamed the request to get it to I

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would have dreamed, though it would have been whole cloth

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dreamed up.

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Yes, yes, and then you say, oh, I couldn't even

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find it, and she's like what.

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And then and then they just are like we're not

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friends anymore, and I'm like, why, Michelle, are you so

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mean to me? And then it would be the end.

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And then also why do you need a hair straightener? Anyway?

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I don't know.

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That one's pretty good. I mean, that's a classic kind

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of odd Reddit question. You know, did people ask if

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she has a carbon monoxide detector?

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Not for this one, but they did say that because

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like the hair straightener was in a case and so

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she remembered, like the really bright case and stuff, and

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so they said, maybe there wasn't actually hair straightener in

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the case, and but half of it is half of

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it was see through. So if she's all that are stranger, oh.

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H, that almost seems too perfect. Well, thank you Michelle

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for making sure we know what's going on in reddit,

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for having your thumb on that pulse sure so well,

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before we take off here, I just want to say

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thank you guys for joining us on another episode of

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Monthly Spooky. I've really enjoyed it. I always enjoy getting

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to sit down with the Shell, no matter how mean

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she is to me and do a show where we

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talk about some spooky, creepy things and hopefully have some

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laughs and along the way and get jobs back by

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how incredibly bad herror dot for dot ukay is it everywhere?

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I mean every accept shameless. No, you're bad at shameless promotions,

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but you don't even read them. We get so annoyed.

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You're a wow, this promotion is so shameless. I'm not

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even going to try to make compata, but we do

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appreciate you guys hanging out with us. And a reminder,

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if you haven't checked out Episode four hundred final broadcast.

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Please give it a listen. I'm I'm really really proud

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of it. And don't forget you have a summer Strict

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Field GNI series coming in the month of June for

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you to enjoy. So oh and there's a little something

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releasing on Thursdays Happen So yes, we published seven days

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a week. It's a new thing I'm trying out. I'd

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love to hear what you guys think about. Email me

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at weekly Spooky at gmail dot com. Thursday Thrills is

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what it's called as what is. So for now, we're

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going to get out of here and see you next month.

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Right here the show final words.

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I feel sad now because I'm too mean.