Cutting Deep Into Horror | Murder Party (2007) The Art Scene Gets Gory!

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Hey, Rachel, Hey, thanks
so much for coming to my party.

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Yeah, it's it's a great party. Well, you know, it's it's

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Halloween time and that is obviously a
big deal for me. Well yeah,

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I mean I'm the weekly spooky guy. Right, you gotta throw a party

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exactly. So I like to not
only throw a party, but I like

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there to be a theme, Okay, you know, a fun theme,

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something that like gets us all in
the mindset. Like last year was bobbing

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for apples. The year before it
was caramel apples. Okay, by the

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year before that was candied apples.
I bought some stock in an apple orchard.

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I thought it was apple computers.
Oh, but apples are delicious,

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so I had time. But this
year's it's all about murder. It's a

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murder party. That's that's a little
different from apples, only slightly. It's

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like comparing apples to murder. I
get it. Haha, everybody's made that

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joke. But anyway, if you'll
come with me right through here, right

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through here, so you'll see right
there is the main room. It is

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covered in plastic, so it's all
set for you. So if you would

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just walk in their face against the
wall, and close your eyes and just

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like breathe slowly. You're gonna have
a great time, all right. I

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don't know. I don't know about
Oh, come on, you're the DJ.

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He slaps. It's gonna be awesome. Murder party. I ain't no

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body like a murder pudy, because
a murder party kills you. This podcast

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is about why horror scares us,
what deep dark secrets scary cinema shines a

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light on. The discussions are frank
and involve conversations about abuse, trauma,

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and mental health. There are also
spoilers, so keep that in mind too.

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Now, sharpen your machetes and strap
raisers, because this is Cutting Deep

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into Horror. Hey, my spookies, Welcome to another episode of Cutting Deep

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into Horror, and not just any
episode one of our special Halloween episodes of

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the thirty some shows. It was
originally thirty one shows in thirty one days,

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and it's become a lot more,
so much more. Oh goodness,

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yeah, yeah, So I am
your surprisingly bathed and mildly slept host Enrique

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Kuto here with my good buddy and
co host on Cutting Deep in Horror,

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Rachel Ridolfi. Hey guys, Rachel
you doing well. I'm hanging in there.

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Well, I mean today it's one
of your days off except for the

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show. Yeah, you know,
so spooky season treating you well so far.

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I've been seeing lots of spooky decorations
out and about and that's always fun.

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Yeah. Yeah, so Rachel,
one of her side gigs is she

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does door dash. So one of
the things I'm jealous about. And you're

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gonna think I'm silly or maybe not
because you know me really well, but

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like there are I know, I'm
I'm blessed. I get to do the

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thing I love the most for a
living yacht. Like I'm super grateful.

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But every now and then I think
about certain day jobs and I'm like,

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man, that looks that looks all
right? Like do you ever tell me

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about the time I went to Dominoes. It was it was during the pandemic.

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I went to Dominoes at like one
in the morning. I was starving.

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I've been working all night and I
went in there and the people working

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there because they hope they close it
like two, they were just like they

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had the radio on and they were
all like laughing and yelling jokes at each

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other, and like the television set
was playing some movie and I was like,

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Man, why am I wishing I
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now? It just looks great.
Well, probably because you just work alone.

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I do an awful lot. You're
one of the only podcasts I do

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where the person is spoiler alert in
the studio actually with me, not in

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another state. Yeah, jeer over
the phone. Oh well, not on

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the phone. Come on, it's
over. It's over Double Ender podcasting software.

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Okay, disgracious. But one thing
I've always been jealous about your job,

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aside from that you get to like
see people, is that you're out

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and about and and whenever I need
like to test the pulse of like the

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world, I usually ask you first. I'm like, hey, have you

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noticed this and that? You know? And so I bet you're seeing like

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all the best Halloween decorations. Oh
my, And people are like really getting

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into it now that now that there's
like the twelve foot tall like skeleton and

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wear wall. I know, by
law, I should have a twelve foot

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start, but they're so expensive and
we're like, are we just going to

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keep it up? Yes? I
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that's what I will do. I
don't take my Christmas lights down. I

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have programmable ones. I set them
for Halloween mode, and then when Halloween

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ends, I set them for Thanksgiving
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year they're Christmas mode. And it's
funny because I've had people's like, oh,

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so you're too late to take your
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I want them up. You do. During the actual holiday season,

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I have them set to turn on
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During the off season, I have
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after after dusk. Yeah, Like, I don't have the run all night.

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But I love lights. I love
the idea of celebration. And you

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know, I'm an adult. I
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have lights all year long, I
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an American, damn it. And
and yeah, but that's that's how I

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feel. And this year was very
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yeah, last last week, and
I could finally put lights up in my

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shop. My shrubs, my bushes
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maybe a little less or so because
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ago, so they're still they're still
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trim them. So I trimmed them
and now they have Halloween e lights.

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They have purple and orange lights in
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And my little Christmas tree, Agamemnon, he's still setting route. I think

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he's gonna make it. I think
so you would know better than I do.

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You have a green thumb, which
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about. But no, little Agamemnon, which is the name I gave this

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random, random pine tree that started
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not on the by the side of
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brick. That would be impressed,
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call it Guinness World Records. Yeah, that boy is a fighter if he's

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growing out of some brick. But
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growing on the side of my house. So we waited until he was strong

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enough and then we uprooted him and
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I intend to put one red bulb
on him like Charlie Brown. Yep,

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that's what I'm gonna do this here. But yep, enough about Christmas,

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because we got we got not only
is it the Halloween season, which is

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my bread and butter time of year. I just love Halloween so much.

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But we have a we have a
scary movie that's also very funny and completely

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set on Halloween, which is how
I have come to watch this film every

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single year. And I got to
say, there's some films, not a

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lot, but there are some films
that are so great that it is so

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nice that they're on a holiday so
that it can remind you to stop everything

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and enjoy it. Like Plainstrands and
Automobiles. Yeah, that's one of my

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favorite movies of all time. And
I but thanks to it being a Thanksgiving

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movie, I never skip it.
Yeah, especially because there are in a

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lot of Thanksgiving movies, but I
never miss it because Thanksgiving movie home alone,

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phenomenal movie. Christmas time movie.
You don't have to watch it at

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Christmas, but you gotta watch it
at Christmas, you know. So,

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And I know that Halloween has a
lot, a lot of interesting feelings for

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you because you didn't grow up celebrating
Halloween. No, you were in a

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relatively strict religious household. I mean, pardon my you know, I was

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not there, but it seems like
it was pretty strict It wasn't like the

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kind of scary strang that some people
have experienced, but it was pretty started

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strict. Yeah yeah, I mean
you were you were not allowed to watch

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much television things like that. Of
course, some people would be like,

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maybe that's why you're an intellectual.
You know, there's that. Meanwhile,

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I was raised by the television.
My mom was like, the moment we

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had we could find a TV set
at like a junk yard, I had

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a TV in my bedroom. She
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I was like, yay, well, yeah, but you like grew

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up street smart. I grew up
book smart. So well, you start

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to grow up street smart when you
grew up on the street fair enough.

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But you also have a bunch of
brothers and sisters and yeah, but you

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have a big, big, big
family for a humongous family. So before

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we get into murder Party, which
is the I believe it's a two thousand

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and seven I usually have the info
pulled up right here. Yeah, it's

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a it's a two thousand and seven
horror comedy directed by Jeremy Solner A Solner,

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sorry, a sol in the air. That's why it's because there's an

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it's only hear, and I've always
loved this movie. But before you get

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into it, I just want to
ask you, so, what was your

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first time celebrating Halloween? Like,
how old were you? What did you

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do? I was probably like twenty
one? Wow, so you were Were

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you in college at that point?
Oh yeah? Yeah, okay, so

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in college and I think we all
just went over to a friend's house.

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I threw together like a really simple
costume. Well you've always been crafty,

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so did you do you remember it? Uh? Yeah, I painted myself

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blue and I had a blue dragon
mask, so I was just a blue

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dragon. But that checks out.
Fun story about acrylic paint sticking on skin,

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which it doesn't very well. I
was about to say in pro wrestling,

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that's what we use as face paint, is acrylic paint because it comes

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off easily. That's why when you
watch I know, at first you watch

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some old wrestling videos, that's when
they're like punching each other, it flakes

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off. Yeah, it doesn't wipe
off, it flakes off. Yeah.

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Yeah. So yeah, I'm not
gonna ever do that again. But you

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know it was a learning experience of
course, of course. Yeah. Okay,

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so you're a blue dragon and I'm
guessing you just went to like a

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Halloween party, okay, And I'm
guessing since you were twenty one and in

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college that you got blitzed. Well
yeah, I was just asking, Okay,

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gosh, you don't have to give
me the third degree, partier.

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It's all right, No, No, it's fine, you did. That's

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the thing is, I grew up
the bookworm, but I was the one

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who was like partying. Yeah.
I grew up like literally surrounded by like

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alcohol and drug use in show business
and never touched a drop of alcohol.

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Ever. You grew up in the
household where like you were taught a very

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specific morality code and you like to
have a good time. See how that

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turned out? Yeah, there you
have it. There, you have it

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to any any parents listening, like, hey, hey, be careful less

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you want a kid that are out
like me? Anyway. Uh So,

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with that all being said, I
know that correct me if I'm wrong that

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I became a major force for Halloween
in your life. Is that true?

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That's a fair assessment. Yeah,
because because I was kind of introduced to

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like Halloween as being like, you
know, the party holiday. Yeah,

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because I was I was past it
being you know, the fun spooky for

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kids thing. Sure, so you
know, and then you hung out with

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me and it was and I was
like, no, no, no,

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it's that's exactly how it happened.
That's exactly like, sorry, you know

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what, but what were so well, so, you know, it's it's

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fun for partying. But like,
by the time I was like twenty five

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twenty six, I wasn't I wasn't
into the party scene as much. You

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know, I would. I would
hang out with friends every once in a

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while, but I wasn't like trying
to to really you know, get crunk

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or anything as you like to say, as I say because I like to

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say it because I don't think I
actually know what it means. And that's

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even better. So yeah, by
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really like celebrating holiday, you know, Halloween all that much. And that

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it didn't help that like, uh, the person I was dating at the

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time was kind of a wet blanket
about pretty much all holidays. But well,

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didn't you like Halloween the most because
it was just a drunk holiday because

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you liked you liked a good old
fashioned drunk. I seem to recall.

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Yeah, well, as lony times
fun just for the partying. It wasn't

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about like the scary movies or you
know, the the spirit of you know,

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getting dressed up and trying to scare
each other. It was like literally

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just for drinking. So like when
we're not going out to party anymore than

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it doesn't really matter. Yeah,
and so you were kind of the one

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one of the people in my life
that was like, No, Halloween's fun

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for everybody, and it's like especially
fun if you just throw yourself into it.

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So I ruined you in many ways. I was just like I was

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just like Rachel, No, there's
no reason for drinking when we can all

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be out handing out candy being married. I should have never gave me that

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button. Who's they they made?
Anyway, Why did you do that to

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you? It's my favorite thing in
the world. So that all being said,

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you would hang out with me and
my people, and we we love

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Halloween very much. We like to
celebrate. I know I need to get

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back into throwing Halloween parties. I
think next year I'm finally going to get

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back to it. Yeah. October
is just so crazy and when and now

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that October has become less crazy,
I decided to do thirty one weekly spooky

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shows in thirty one days. So
we're back at it. So but so

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that all being said, you'd hang
out with us. We do a we

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do like a Halloween party, and
at my Halloween parties, we have a

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rule which is when the clock is
getting close to midnight, I warn everybody,

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Hey, if you don't want to
stay and watch a movie, you

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have like twenty minutes to say your
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party wraps down and we pull the
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that I've curated for midnight on Halloween
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Demon Night was one of the best
Halloween night. Yeah. We've done Herder

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Party one year. We did party
this very film. So, was that

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the first time you saw Murder Party? Because you mentioned earlier that you remembered

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the first time I showed it to
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time that I watched it, Okay, because the first time was when you

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were really trying to get the Halloween
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I showed you Halloween four? While
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and I put up a big This
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my ceiling, so I had to
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room. And I showed you Halloween
four and I remember I was on my

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I was on my very healthy diet. So I made a steam disparagus and

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Brussels sprouts the most. That is
a meal I love eating, but it

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is as bitter as a forty two
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you're not wrong, it's I mean, yeah, it is delicious, but

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boy howdy. Yeah, a little
little pepper, a little hot sauce,

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and it's as bitter as hell.
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time. It was during that time. So do you remember anything else specific

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about about watching it? All?
I all I remember is you would ask

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me if I'd ever watched any like
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like, oh, yeah, maybe
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haven't really had a chance to like
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super excited and he's like, oh
my god, I know exactly what we're

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gonna watch I'm gonna show you Murder
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with a name like that. The
first year that I moved back to Ohio

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and started renting this house before I
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the two Erics, Eric Whiting and
the other Eric. I'm still friends with

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him, It's just he's not like
a public person. Why would I give

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out his full name. But so
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night, after we'd handed out candy, they were both other. Eric was

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like, so, what are we
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because he knew that I liked the
horror movie. So I put on Murder

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Party and when it was over,
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the best. He was like,
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And then he only lived here for
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but you kept your end of the
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Murder Party. This was I was
actually thrilled that we had an excuse to

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watch it. Yeah, although you
got to cheat. You got to sit

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and watch it while I cooked dinner
and watched it from the other room,

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quoting it, well, yeah,
I was I was gonna say, it's

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not like you weren't quoting the entire
movie as it was happening. It's a

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damn fine film. So so it
was made. It was It was released

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in two thousand and seven. I
don't know if he'd be if it's Jeremy

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Solnier or Solnier I mean, because
I don't know if he goes with the

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traditional French pronunciation or what. But
Jeremy's a very talented director. He made

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Blue Ruin, which is a movie
I know you haven't seen, but you

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need to. He made The green
Room, which I know you've seen.

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That's someone with the punk rock band
is stuck in the green room of a

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neo Nazi club. I haven't actually
thought I took you to see that when

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it came out. It's a friggin'
in I've heard it. Amazing movie.

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Patrick Stewart's in it. It's really
good. And then he did another movie

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that was on Netflix that I am
struggling to remember the name of, but

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it was something like Hold the Dark
or something along those lines. It was

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called Yeah, Hold the Dark,
That's exactly it. He did that for

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Netflix. It's a pretty good movie. It's a snow movie. I love

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it. You know how much I
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the cast are some of the best. We have Chris Sharp playing our

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lead as we call him, the
Brown Knight, and Macon Blair who plays

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the werewolf guy and Macon. Of
all the people including Jeremy Solnier, Macon

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Blair has had the biggest career of
everybody involved with the film. Really,

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Macon has been it was. He
was a main character in Chris Nolan's new

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movie, Uh, the Oppenheimer Oppenheimer. No, he was. Really,

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he had a major role in Oppenheimer. He was in Richard Jewel. So

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he's worked for like Scorsese, he's
worked for Clint Eastwood. And he's the

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director of the currently unreleased but soon
to be released Toxic Avenger remake. Huh,

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he's the director on that. He
has had a hell of a career.

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In fact, I noticed that according
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plays the Brown Knight in this film, who will be talking about a bunch,

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he has a role in it,
which is really cool because Chris didn't

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really do much more movie acting wise
after this film. He did just a

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couple of other things. So it'll
be cool to see him back because he's

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I mean, everybody's so good.
This movie was basically done by like a

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collective of creatives. In fact,
on the credits, it doesn't even credit

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Jeremy as the director. It credits
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director, and on the commentary track, Jeremy says that that's like they they

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all made the movie together. And
of course later on it was like,

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well, you but you directed it. But I get it. He was

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young and he was idealistic. And
also, you know, creative collectives they

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break up. They just basically do. There's a reason why I am.

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I don't direct my movie with a
team of five people. And so that

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you know that being said, I
discovered this film on DVD, renting it

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at Blockbuster when I still lived in
New Jersey because I used to pick movies

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based on their ridiculous cover art,
and this movie has a very ridiculous cover

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out of a man in a night
costume made out of cardboard with chainsaw and

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all this crazy stuff going on around
him. And I remember it said something

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like that it was like a horror
movie of some sort of meats. Napoleon

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Dynamite was the way they were selling
it, which I think is not accurate,

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but it worked to get me curious, yeah, and it made me

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know it was going to be funny, so I got a hand it to

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them. But I remember, literally, I mean, I was when I

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lived in Jersey. I was working
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money, I mean, because Jersey's
expensive, and my big treat every week

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was on Saturday night, I would
go to the Blockbuster and I'd rent two

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movies and then on the way home, I'd stop at Wendy's or Burger King

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because they didn't even have a McDonald's
in that little town I was in.

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And I remember coming home and most
of the time the movies would be kind

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of like, you know, a
laugh, they wouldn't be very good,

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but Murder Party. When the movie, when the credits were rolling, I

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was on eBay trying to see if
I could get a cheap DVD of it,

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and I bought one that day.
So, and this was in two

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thousand and seven, so Amazon wasn't
ubiquitous yet, like you would go to

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eBay or you'd go to Deep Discount
DVD. That was a big place to

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get movies other than Amazon for the
longest time still shop there, and I

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don't blame them. But but that
all being said, we're going to dive

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into the specifics of the film.
We had this nice little intro where we

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talked a little bit of Halloween.
But we'll be back in just a moment

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after these words, and we're going
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And we are back talking about Murder
Party. Yeah. So, Rach

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you you are the maestro in many
ways on this. So how how do

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you wanna how do you want to
start? What do you want to how

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do you want to run it down? Well, Murder Party starts out where

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it's just kind of like a montage, a little bit of just like a

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city street, New York City.
Okay, so it is it's the neighborhoods

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you're seeing are I want to say, mostly Brooklyn, but it is a

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New York City, okay, because
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But they never say exactly like,
oh, in New York City, so

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I don't want to. I mean, he says he's in the nypdh that's

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right. Okay. Yeah. Also
they're also friggin' pretentious. How in New

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York come on geez. So anyway, sorry, I won't do that anywhere,

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don't lie, Okay, Fine,
So it starts out where it's just

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kind of setting the scene so that
you know that it's Halloween. And I

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think one of my favorite things about
this movie is, you know the old

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saying in storytelling you should show,
not tell. That's in filmmaking especially,

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that's where tell is king. Whenever
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with pictures. And that comes from
the fact that that movies started without sound.

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Yes, so literally exposition was literally
really exposition. It was written and

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people had to read it off the
screen. So SHOWEDO tell was everything,

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and it still is. I do
believe that, you know, sometimes you

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just have to tell. Yeah whatever. Like I just watched this movie which

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I enjoyed quite a bit on two
B called Natty Knocks. It's a Halloween

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themed horror movie that came out this
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Moseley and Danielle Harris from Halloween four. And it's directed by the director of

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Halloween four, wo Dwight Little.
It's a pretty good movie. It's not

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it doesn't change the world, but
I really had a good time with it.

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But when I was watching it,
there's a scene where where Robert England's

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character gives this massive monologue about what
happened to this person and why all this

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happened, And at one point my
buddy Keith was like, was like thanks

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for like as a joke, was
just like okay, well thanks for the

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exposition, and I was like,
hey, if you got to have exposition

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spewed out, you may as well
have it by a phenomenal actor. Yeah.

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So anyway, I digress. That
was just a little note. Natty

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Knock's worth watching. Not quite a
cutting deep into horror film, but worth

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watching. So but yeah, they
show by not telling they're showing trick or

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treaters, they're showing smash jackal lanterns, they're showing our main character as his

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job as a meter maid. Yeah, and I think that the establishing shot,

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the first shot you see of our
our main character, Chris, is

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all you need to know about him, because the very first thing you see

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is him writing a ticket and putting
it on a car and then a lady

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like pulling it off. It was
a lady, I think it was.

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It was a lady. I'm not
paying this and he's just sitting there me

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clean, like just taking it.
Yeah. And so you know, we

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see some more stuff. We see
you know, the the fall foliage and

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kids running around in their costumes,
and then he goes to a video store

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and picks out a few videos for
Halloween Night. And I want to mention

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speaking a show don't tell the establishing
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show a jack o' lantern get picked
up and slammed into pieces and they go

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Murder Party. Yeah, I mean
everything about this movie is is Halloween as

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hell, and it is New York
as hell. Yeah. I mean I

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lived on the East Coast, so
I mean, I don't blame you for

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being like I wasn't sure. I
am sure I could, I can't.

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I've walked in those neighborhoods. They
all look the same, yeah, because

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they've got character. But sorry,
I'm not trying to hate. Well yeah,

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well, and see, like my
entire existence for the past thirty six

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years of my life has been doing
everything in my power to not go to

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New York City. So that's why
I was like, I don't know,

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I've read his New York, but
I really don't care to find out.

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So yeah, it's New York.
Nobody, nobody is that rude and crowded

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New York. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, but yeah, so you see

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him getting screamed at for giving somebody
a parking ticket. Yep. I mean

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he goes and gets its videos and
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One of the videos was scare Wolf
by the Way, and the cover the

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cover boxes are like they're like so
they're like in in tensionally done really poorly,

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which I like zero yeah, just
like glued on. Oh is so

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great. So as he's walking down
the street, this this stray envelope just

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kind of gets blown about by the
breeze and lands at his feet this very

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unique black yeah like gothic, very
not antiquated, antiquated might be like,

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it's very bespoke. It looks like
it was made with with thought and care.

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And so he he picks it up
and he opens it up and it

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says murder party. You are cordially
invited, cordially invited to a murder murder

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party tonight, come alone, and
no one has come alone in the address.

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And then he goes home and he
types it into map quest and it's

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in the middle of a warehouse district. Yeah, for those who don't live

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in a in a sprawling urban decay, warehouse districts are where no one lives.

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It's just it's just the middle of
nowhere where like that's where you can

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do like dirty things like micro brew
beer and and ship packages and warehouse things

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and murder parties and murder parties.
Goddamn right. So what does he do

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as a intelli? A man of
basic intelligence who's found who is alone on

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Halloween night? Well not alone,
he has Sir Lancelot his Carlans. And

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that's another thing that I love that
not only does it establish Chris's character,

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but it also sets up for one
of the last things that happens in the

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movie is so he gets home,
first thing he notices is that pumpkin that

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got smashed in the opening of movie. That was his jack O land on

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his like bummed out about that.
And he gets home and he kind of

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gets out of his work clothes,
and he gets candy, and he goes

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to his seat and he tries he's
trying to watch a movie and he sees

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his and he asks Sir Lancelot if
he can get off the chair, and

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Sir Lancelot's sitting in the chair that's
directly across from his little television in his

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unbearably small apartment, like like studio
size. It's it's like a I mean

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it's New York. It's like a
closet. Yeah, it's so tiny.

407
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.599
Yeah. He has a kitchen dining
room that is so small, and then

408
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:23.200
his living room is sad small.
Yeah, like you take two steps in

409
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.519
your chair and a small TV set. Yeah, and he wants he looks

410
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:32.599
at Sir Lancelot, who's all sprawled
out on his on his chair, and

411
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:37.160
he's just, Sir Lancelot, would
you please move anybody? Anybody listens as

412
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:40.079
a cat, you know, or
a dog, like a cat like I

413
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:44.559
have, or a Chicano boy,
yeah, little buddy. So that was

414
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:49.319
just great establishing like the cat isn't
even intimidated by him, and he doesn't

415
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.559
have like a mean bone in his
body. He doesn't even tell off the

416
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:57.200
cat. He's just like okay.
And then goes into the kitchen and then

417
00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.599
he goes out and he gets the
pumpkin and he starts making pumpkin bread.

418
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:04.279
Yeah, and and and so he's
making pumpkin bread. Then he gets into

419
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:10.359
a storage space and pulls out a
cardboard box that says costume on it.

420
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:12.440
Yeah, and you're like, oh, he's going to get a Halloween costume.

421
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:18.960
No, he takes the box and
starts cutting it and makes on the

422
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:25.359
spot a night outfit, which I
have to know as a as a crafty

423
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:29.759
person that I know you are,
what do you think of this night costume?

424
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.319
Like its it's so good though,
It's like he kills the armor plates

425
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.359
and then the helmet has like a
mask that can pull down the advisor.

426
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.640
Advisor, that's what it is.
And he even made like the whole sword

427
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:47.079
and everything and it straps onto his
like it like it's it's really honestly impressive.

428
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:52.680
And I've heard that they've met,
they've made the like blueprint for it

429
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.200
readily available. It's on the DVD's
on the it's a how to. Yeah

430
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:02.160
you've made that and warrant to the
Halloween part. So yeah, maybe that

431
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.319
should be your Halloween. I was
kind of thinking that as as we were

432
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.759
watching it, like, man,
I could totally be the Brown Knight.

433
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.519
I could totally get you a couple
of big cardboard boxes and you'd be set.

434
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.200
I might, I might, I
might do that, well, we

435
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.200
break for dinner, I'll play the
how to for you and see if you

436
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:19.880
want to go through it. Okay, well we'll see if I want to

437
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.000
do that. But I think another
thing going back to show not Tell,

438
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:29.119
is as he's making the pumpkin bread, he's trying to like judge it up

439
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:36.440
and like make it really nice.
He's like really being thoughtful about this murder

440
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:40.839
party, which, again his character, he's he's such a nice, unassuming

441
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:44.000
person that he hears the an invitation
to a murder party. He's like,

442
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:45.880
I'm gonna make some pumpkin bread from
scratch. Yeah, He's like, I'm

443
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.039
gonna go to this party that seems
like it's thrown by cool people because it's

444
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:53.400
all gothic and creepy and I don't
know them. I'll make pumpkin bread right.

445
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:57.720
Also, also a side note to
everybody the pumpkins we make Jack lanyers

446
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:00.799
out of don't actually make pumpkin bread. No, it's not good. That's

447
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.799
in the commentary on Murder Party.
They're like, oh, just by the

448
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.599
way, don't do that. It
won't work, it'll taste awful. Yeah,

449
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.680
it's not good. You need a
dessert pumpkin yeah, why aren't you

450
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:14.400
making me pumpkin bread? He never
asked, hurtful? All right, well

451
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:18.039
anyway, So so now he's made
pumpkin bread, he's made his Brown Knight

452
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.079
costume. M hm, and he's
he's printed out Oh yeah. They show

453
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:27.000
his printers spitting out the freakin direction
I love, and their foot directions because

454
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:30.559
it's New York City, so they're
like they tell you, like where to

455
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.000
go to get on the L train
or whatever. That's all in there.

456
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:37.160
And then he walks into the dining
room. Oh yeah, because he had

457
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:38.640
a bowl of candy corn he was
gonna eat while he watched the movie.

458
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.519
So he puts a little tag on
it says please take one, and he

459
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.200
goes into the living room and he
goes, Okay, Sir Lancelot, I'm

460
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:49.400
leaving. I hope you're happy with
He takes a long Hope you're happy.

461
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:55.000
It's so good. I was in
the other room and I leaned my head

462
00:31:55.000 --> 00:32:00.279
into hope you're happy what he did
because it's so good good. So yeah,

463
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:05.279
so he he leaves the bowl of
candy after after leaving Sir Lamb,

464
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:09.039
he leaves for the trigger treaters a
just a bowl of loose candy cord with

465
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:14.640
a please take only one tag on
it, and I can't even be mad

466
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:20.119
at him, Like his life is
so rough though that you can't be upset.

467
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:22.400
You're like, man, he's putting
in an effort. Yeah, he

468
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:28.920
puts an effort, There's no doubt
about it. So he starts walking down

469
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.680
and then it smash cuts and you
just see him on the subway. Not

470
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:36.720
yet, you're not yet caught up, remember, because that's the joke,

471
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.680
is where we see a subway train
and then we're on the subway and there's

472
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:44.079
this guy, black dude rapping,
but he's not rapping, just rapping.

473
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.480
He's rapping like hyper aggressive, like
I'm gonna like slipping motherfucker's throats and doing

474
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:50.680
this and this and all this stuff. And then he's like and then it

475
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:54.720
cuts and you realize that the guy
is wrapping into the brown Knight's face.

476
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:59.039
So this guy and he's going,
this ain't just a this ain't just a

477
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.119
song. This is your bituary.
He's like yell, like all that stuff

478
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.720
right in his face, that's sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.

479
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:06.880
That's what makes it so funny is
at first you're like, oh,

480
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:07.799
Yeah, there are kind of quirky
people on the subway. It's like,

481
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:12.119
oh no, no, this person
is in our main characters face making him

482
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:16.640
uncomfortable because if I remember, they
show the guy rapping and then they cut

483
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:20.119
to his face with his eyes all
wide. Then they cut to the shot

484
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:27.240
where you realize that they're like six
inches apart from each other. Oh,

485
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:34.160
this movie sad, and that's what
that's the thing about. Christopher who played

486
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.759
Chris. Almost all the actors had
their own names as their characters. Yeah,

487
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:47.200
which he just so lovable, Yes, and like oh fish in a

488
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:53.319
way a little bit, he's just
this guy and you feel bad for him

489
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:58.599
because again he's just some schmuck that's
trying his best. He's trying to have

490
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:04.400
it okay Halloween, but nothing,
nothing is going right. And I just

491
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.880
remembered we forgot to mention. Another
one of the elements that plays into the

492
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:13.159
story is as he's walking home,
an alarm goes off on his watch.

493
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.239
Oh yeah, and he has to
take a Yep, it happens again.

494
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.639
While he's on his way to the
murder party. He goes Bybee and he

495
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.119
takes a pill. Has to take
a pill, So he's got to take

496
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.400
pills pretty consistently. I got the
vibe they were anxiety pills. That's what

497
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.480
I got too. Yeah, and
I think there was a I think there

498
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:31.840
was one point where we like froze
it. They shows they showed a shot,

499
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:34.960
but I don't know if you could
actually read it. Because this movie

500
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.719
was shot on video in two thousand
and seven. It wasn't in I don't

501
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:38.639
believe it was a well no,
I know for a fact it was not

502
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:43.320
in high definition because that was way
too expensive in two thousand and seven.

503
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.000
I mean, I worked in that
business at the time. So you know,

504
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:49.880
the only movie I know of from
that era that was in HD was

505
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:53.920
Satan's Little Helper, which I love
that movie. But but when you talk

506
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:57.480
to the director, I met him
at Cinema Wasteland and we were talking about

507
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.159
that movie being an HD. He
was like he literally was like, we

508
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.239
shot that on literally the camera they
shot Star Wars Episode one on, Like

509
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:06.679
we had to we had to have
we had to have a courier service bring

510
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:09.679
it to Rhode Island or New England
wherever they were filming. So like it

511
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:13.800
was not something you could just do. Yeah anyway, But yeah, so

512
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.079
I don't know, but I always
assumed it was some kind of an anxiety

513
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:22.039
medication. Yeah, I always got
that vibe too. But that is something

514
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:25.840
that plays into the story of the
whole movie because as he is going and

515
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.920
he's getting away from like the bustling
streets where like all the partiers are going

516
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.320
on, and then he's in some
like back alleyways, and then he's in

517
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:38.079
some like really dark rough streets,
and then he's just like at a fucking

518
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:42.079
dock. Yeah that's what I mean, because he's in the warehouse district.

519
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:46.519
They're nowhere the warehouse districts because warehouses
are loud and smelling. Well, yeah,

520
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:50.360
yeah, you don't put him next
to houses. Now, put him

521
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:55.239
where nobody could hear you scream or
hear you, you know, move industrial

522
00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:01.199
gravel. But they're all good.
Answer. Yeah. So because at one

523
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.519
point he as he's walking and it
gets darker and darker. Because at first,

524
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:07.760
when he's out and about, it's
like you see all the Halloween partiers.

525
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:09.719
But as it keeps going, there's
just less and less people until it's

526
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:14.480
only him in this like dark area. And I love that the music builds

527
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:15.920
and builds and builds, and then
it just smash cuts and he's just running.

528
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.280
So I get it. In a
way, I thought, I felt

529
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.920
like the filmmaker's intention there was to
make us understand the way his anxiety felt.

530
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:29.639
Not to make us feel anxious for
him, but to literally show us

531
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.039
like he's getting more and more nervous
and more and more nervous. That's why

532
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:38.440
smash cut and he's running full speed
toward the warehouse. The trip to the

533
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:43.239
warehouse alone tells you the movie is
going to be phenomenal. Yeah, it's

534
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.880
so funny and relatable. Yeah,
see, because I was, I was

535
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:52.519
entranced the first time he watched it. Like that had me totally entranced because

536
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:54.719
I was like, I just want
to know everything about this guy. Well,

537
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:59.760
and I've been there in not only
New York City back then, but

538
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.880
in Chicago as well. I've printed
walking directions from map quest back in the

539
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:07.000
olden days, and yeah, you
just kind of like, at there's a

540
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:09.719
point, there are points where you're
walking along and you don't know the city

541
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:17.639
and you're just like this where I
want to be. So I really felt

542
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:22.960
for but else he's just running.
Also, you know he doesn't have a

543
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.719
car because he's just he's just a
schmo living in New York City. So

544
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:31.840
he gets to the warehouse and we're
introduced to some of our artists yep.

545
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:40.559
And they are all just hanging out
doing artists due like complaining drugs, art

546
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:45.079
but mostly complaining in drugs, playing
video games, yeah yeah, and playing

547
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:49.960
video games. And Chris walks in
and they all just look at him like

548
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:53.119
because like they can't believe anyone actually
showed up ye because he's a parent.

549
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:57.519
I'm here for the murder party.
And they're all just like because Macon's character

550
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:01.559
like pulls the werewolf mask over his
face something, they're only, oh,

551
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:05.079
no, no, this is it. Yeah, yeah, we just you're

552
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.320
just early. Yeah. He's like, oh sorry, and they're like,

553
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:09.119
oh, that's that's okay. I
made pumpkin bread. And they're like,

554
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:15.280
oh that's that's really sweet. Really
yeah, that's sweet. A few and

555
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:22.039
then they jump him. Well there's
like a long awkward pause where I forget

556
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:23.760
his name. The vamp, the
guy who's dressed like a vampire, the

557
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:30.320
photographer guy, Yeah, Paul,
Paul. He takes the the invitation and

558
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.760
he lights it on fire, but
it barely burns. It just burns like

559
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.000
a normal piece of paper. You
know, it's not a magic but he's

560
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:37.800
like waving it around like it's going
to do something. Yeah, And the

561
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:43.119
whole time he's doing that making and
the werewolf outfit is like getting an axe

562
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.280
and over it, but he lifts
it up and then instead of getting him,

563
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:50.920
he pulls it and it clicks a
light on which casts a shadow on

564
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:53.199
the ground that shows a werewolf with
a hatchet on the shadow. He was

565
00:38:53.239 --> 00:39:00.440
liked. They all have to chase
him throughout the whole building. I'm sorry,

566
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:02.440
you're gonna have to deal with listeners. You have to deal with us

567
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:08.880
laughing and coherently. This movie is
so funny and I cannot recommend enough.

568
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:15.320
If you love comedy horror movies and
you love feeling the Halloween spirit, you

569
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:20.719
know by watching movies that take place
on Halloween, Murder Party is such a

570
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:23.400
great option for you. I mean, it is so good and it's free

571
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.880
to stream on tub right now.
We are not in any way sponsored by

572
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.480
t B to B, and I
have a good working relationship with my movies

573
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.559
on there, but they don't,
you know, ask me to plug things.

574
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:38.119
It's the fact is to be is
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575
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:42.320
of America. So if you're listening
to this, there is a high likelihood

576
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.519
ninety percent of our audiences in the
United States, So there's a high likelihood

577
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:51.840
that you can watch Murder Party right
now on to B and I would recommend

578
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:57.800
that you do it, highly recommend
So so now now refresh my memory.

579
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.559
So now that they had to chase
him down, you know, they chase

580
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:06.599
him down, and they finally because
them all tackling him, I feel like

581
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.559
it was played off so well because
you feel really bad for him, but

582
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:16.519
also they're all so inept well.
Every action in this movie that's like action,

583
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:22.239
like movie action, is awkward and
poorly done. Yeah, so if

584
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:27.000
two people fight, it's like an
actual two people fighting. It doesn't look

585
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:31.840
good, it doesn't sound good that
nobody's getting anything accomplished. It's it's just

586
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:38.880
very just struggling and so awkward,
so incredibly awkward, which is why I

587
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:43.559
love it. So now they've tackled
him, wrestled him around, and have

588
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:45.719
they they they've got him, got
him all tied up. So now Chris

589
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:50.199
R. Brown Knight is tied to
a chair. But you'll have to listen

590
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:53.639
to these sponsors before you find out
what happens next right here on cutting deep

591
00:40:53.679 --> 00:41:09.199
into horror as we talk about murder
party. And we are back right here

592
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:15.880
on cutting deep into horror. So
our Brown Knight has been captured. He's

593
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.400
been tied to a chair with uh
is it like little like twine ropes and

594
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:24.119
bungee corns and he's got like ropes
and chains. Yet, oh there's the

595
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:28.519
joke. That's the joke. Oh
that's spoilers. No, no, it's

596
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:31.079
no, it's just well, if
they're listening to this, they should probably

597
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:35.159
have already watched the movie, would
be ideal. But yeah, eventually he

598
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:37.000
escapes and then when they put him
back, he's got chains on instead.

599
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:42.199
So that's the that's the game.
And I've also seen this movie. I

600
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.519
mean, she was not kidding.
I'm in the other room making vegetable soup

601
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:50.440
and I'm I'm like hollering the lines
as they happen. I know this movie

602
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.960
backwards and forwards, so don't feel
bad. So he's tied up. They

603
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:58.760
do have him gagged though, yeah, yeah, and they're all being really

604
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:04.119
mean and like talking down about him, and like Chris the vampire is saying

605
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:06.199
like, oh, you must be
a rethard because like, look at his

606
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.880
cost to anybody, anybody who is
like, anybody who'd come to a murder

607
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:14.280
party deserves to die. Yeah,
And then like the one who's dresses a

608
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.119
cheerleader sky, she's like, well, I brought acid, so like I'm

609
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:22.280
ready to do this. Yeah,
melting you acid, not dropping fun acid,

610
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.159
which is such a funny line.
Yeah, yeah, you're the one

611
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:29.159
who brought a jug of acid.
Because he's like, should we not kill

612
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:35.880
him? And then the one who's
always sitting there playing video games will He's

613
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:39.960
like, at first he's the funniest
because he's so deadpan and he's off until

614
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:45.679
he turns on. It's the weirdest
thing. But they're asking him, they're

615
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:47.559
like, oh, do you want
to go to this party? You know

616
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:51.880
this other party? Or do you
want to stay here? His exact quote

617
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.519
was, I didn't sign up for
second degree assault party. I didn't sign

618
00:42:54.599 --> 00:43:00.519
up for a second degree of salt
party. So the cheerleader is the one

619
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:06.000
who took the pumpkin bread. Yeah, she's so she's picking at it while

620
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.360
they're all talking. I like eating
at it. And she has a great

621
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:13.360
moment. And and as a as
a writer, one of my favorite things

622
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.199
is what they do with her character, which is she's chewing on the on

623
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:21.000
the bread and she's like, okay, guys, because everybody's talking about like

624
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:22.920
what are we gonna do? And
one guy's like, we can put a

625
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.679
pancake on his face in front of
an L train or whatever. And then

626
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:30.400
he's like and then the one guy
on the floor Chris was it not Chris

627
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:34.039
will Will? He's like, I
thought we just cut off his dick and

628
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.000
said him on fire, and he's
like all that stuff, and then she

629
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.840
goes, okay, guys, hear
me out. I have an idea.

630
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.760
It does. No one dies,
but it's violent and when it's done,

631
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:51.960
we'll all rule the scene. And
they're like, okay, that sounds great.

632
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:55.480
We're listening. And she's like,
are there raisins in this? And

633
00:43:55.519 --> 00:44:00.480
he's like nodding his head and she's
like are they organic? And he's like

634
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:01.719
no, and she's and they're like, oh god, what are you gonna

635
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.679
die? She's like, no,
no, it's okay. It's just the

636
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.960
preservatives. They just make me a
little lightheaded. And then she just drops

637
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.639
to the ground and she hit and
hits her head on a metal pipe and

638
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:15.800
when she lifts up. There's a
giant gash, gushing gash on her head

639
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:21.360
and she's just like whoa loops and
blood is pouring out of her head like

640
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.199
at a really has fast pace,
and then she goes, hey, then

641
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:30.239
it may smell fresh cut grass.
What and then she falls over her dead.

642
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:36.559
Because so in my first movie,
Marty Jenkins in The Vampire Bitches,

643
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:39.400
which I made before I saw this
movie, it's a very similar joke where

644
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:43.920
Marty Jenkins is like, these vampires
are gonna kill everyone in town, and

645
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.719
we established that there's a vampire hunter
who's coming to help, and then literally

646
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:50.800
he's standing in the he's standing there, he's like, I've arrived to stop

647
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:52.840
the vampire scar and then it cuts
wide and he got hit by a car

648
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:58.000
that Marty was driving, and Marty's
like, oh my god, and the

649
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:01.159
guy dies. It's a similar gag. That's why I think it's so funny.

650
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:04.760
I thought of a gag like that
in one of my movies because I

651
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.239
think that's so funny. It's like, now to stop this evil and it's

652
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.400
immediately dead. You're like, oh, well, that was our hope.

653
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:15.159
And that's what she is. She's
like the one and I love that she's

654
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:20.519
like it's violent, but nobody dies
and will rule the scene. It's like

655
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:24.800
the perfect nope nope. So now
she's dead. She's dead, and everyone's

656
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:31.519
oddly nonplussed. They're a bit panicked
and mildly but they're more afraid that that

657
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:37.199
Alexander will find it. Yeah,
because that's the whole argument that they've been

658
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:40.119
having is are they going to wait
around for Alexander? And all we can

659
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:46.599
get about Alexander is that he must
be ultra powerful and they're all vying for

660
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:51.000
a grant. He has access to
some kind of art grant and they all

661
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.159
want it, and that's why they're
doing this, is to impress him.

662
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:59.440
And also they reference that there's another
art guy in the scene named Cicero who

663
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:04.159
has a party like eight blocks down
exactly, why don't let's just go to

664
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.239
Cicero's party, Like, we don't
have to bother with this. Like but

665
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:14.719
anyway, now that Sky is dead, they're all not again, they're not

666
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:19.400
concerned about her, which is the
funny part is they have no concern about

667
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:23.280
her. Their only concern is that
Alexander will find out and think they're a

668
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:29.719
bunch of dildos. There a bunch
of dildas. I love the use of

669
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:37.079
dildo as a insult in this movie
because you track it through which group of

670
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.400
people thought it was popular based on
who used it before them. Oh yeah,

671
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:45.239
and it's Alexander. Alexander talk like
him. But then we find out

672
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:50.800
at the very end that Alexander got
it from Cicero. I actually I actually

673
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.559
got it the other way. Really, I thought Cicero that was the reveal

674
00:46:53.599 --> 00:47:00.440
that Cicero believes Alexander's okay, no, get get into more soon. But

675
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:02.719
but that's you see, I see
what you're saying, because that's when he

676
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:06.880
says, fuck this whole scene.
So, and that's where we're going with

677
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:10.760
this soap and the reasons you wanted
to talk about this movie because it has

678
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:17.360
a lot to say about artists,
especially fine artists. And I am technically

679
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:21.880
not a fine artist. I mean, I I do photography, but that's

680
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.800
more of a very minor side hustles, more of a hobby for the most

681
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:30.519
part. Uh, cinematography has never
been considered a fine art because it's a

682
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:32.440
part of filmmaking, and filmmaking is
not a fine art as far as I

683
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:36.360
understand it. You know, correct
me if I'm wrong. You went well,

684
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:39.480
I mean, that's that's kind of
where it gets tricky is because it

685
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:45.599
kind of depends on which school school
you go to. But yeah, cinematography

686
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:49.039
has always been seen as kind of
like its own things. Well, and

687
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.440
it's craft. It's it's a it's
a craft thing more than anything. Like

688
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:57.599
podcasting is not considered of any you
know, sort real radio broadcasting. I

689
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:01.079
mean, I don't. I don't
think acting is fine art either. Acting

690
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:06.239
is on stage, but only if
it's on stage, if it's if it's

691
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:08.679
in front of a camera, then
that falls under cinematography. So it's like

692
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:14.159
a yeah, it's a different thing. Yeah, it's a whole other deal.

693
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.960
So all these people in here are
fine artists. Yeah, we have

694
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:22.079
a painter, we have a let's
we have a painter, we have a

695
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:29.480
couple painters, we have a photographer. We have never really understand what he

696
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:32.039
does. Well, we don't understand
what he does because all the things that

697
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:37.920
he would eventually end up talking about
are all like these weird conceptual you want

698
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:42.679
to do, like a paper mache
collage, mobile mobile or mobile thing,

699
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:45.599
but it's based off of the paper
clippings that they're going to collect, they

700
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:51.320
commit this murder. So like I
would call him like a conceptual artist,

701
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:57.679
which is this whole other thing.
But yeah, so we've we kind of

702
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.679
run the gamut with with all these
guys of what they do. And then

703
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:06.199
Lexi I think she was she was
a visual art, visual artist, and

704
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:10.400
she was the one who would be
more like a cinematographer because she eventually shows

705
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:15.280
something that is like a piece of
film that she made. Yeah, yeah,

706
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:20.199
well but it's it's but again that's
like it's it's a it's an art

707
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:24.320
installation with video involved. It's not
a film, it's the the video element

708
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:30.199
feeds the art representation because it was
impressionistic actually is the word I would use.

709
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:34.239
Now I sound high falutin, but
but the way, the joke that

710
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:36.840
I got when they show a little
clip of her artwork is that it's like

711
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:42.440
impressionist video, yes, because it's
lots of like letters and words flashing on

712
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.840
the screen and then sudden imagery and
stuff like that. It's not really narrative

713
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:55.920
work exactly. So now that they
well, they immediately blame Chris. They

714
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:01.760
immediately say Chris is at full because
he killing yeah, killer, And then

715
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:07.000
Macon gets livid and he grabs the
jug of acid and starts pouring it all

716
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:10.000
over him, and one of the
best scenes of any movie. He's pouring

717
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:15.760
this as going yeah, motherfucker,
die you motherfucker, like you killed her.

718
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:17.039
And then as soon as the jug
runs out of acid, he goes,

719
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:22.599
oh my god, I'm so sorry. You can see it wave over

720
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:29.280
him, the realization he just did
what he did. And then everybody's like,

721
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:30.679
wait, what kind of acid is
this? And I forget the name

722
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:35.559
that they read it acetic acid.
He's like, sounds like vinegar and that's

723
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.119
five minutes later. Lexi's like,
it's vinegar, googled it on her phone

724
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:51.440
and so so again these guys they're
not killers. They are very inept as

725
00:50:51.559 --> 00:51:00.679
killers. So after they've poured this
acid on Chris, Yes, this salad

726
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:07.840
dressing ass is solid dressing. The
one that's stinky moved east, Oh stinky,

727
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:14.079
they get a call and they all
panic because it's Alexander. So they

728
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:17.079
decide the only course of action is
to hide the Sky's body in this like

729
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:21.599
big freezer. It's want of like
kind of freezer sitting off to the side.

730
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:23.639
Yeah, the roller up in plastic
that was already on the floor for

731
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:30.000
for killing for killing Cress, and
uh, they toss her in there.

732
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:36.159
So in struts Alexander also dressed like
a vampire. Yes, so so our

733
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:40.119
photography boy is dressed like a nineteenth
was it a nineteenth century vampire? Vampire

734
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:45.320
is like really nice? Yeah,
And Alexander is in like a button up

735
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:54.719
and some crappy fangs and like a
cheap necklace. Yeah, he's got Alexander's

736
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:59.159
got his dog with him, hell
Hammer. This is hell Hammer. He's

737
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:06.440
part dingo. And then behind him
is this really tall like Russian guy wearing

738
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:08.199
a track. So they say he
sold parogi. So he could have been

739
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:14.119
Ukrainian or Russian or Belarusian or something
somewhere somewhere in there. He's definitely from

740
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:15.920
the Eastern Block. He's from the
All we can gather is he's from the

741
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:21.039
Eastern Bloc. He's a drug dealer. His parents used to sell parogis.

742
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:22.039
Oh no, they still do.
He sells drugs out of the back of

743
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:27.920
their program. That's what it is. Yeah, So they all kind of

744
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:31.920
strut in and that's when Alexander confronts
Paul about being dressed as a vampire.

745
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:37.760
Paul, what are you dressed as
of the vampire in nineteenth century vampire?

746
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:42.760
Me too? Where'd you get your
fangs? A goth store in the village?

747
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:47.239
Take them off? And he starts. He starts making him take Paul

748
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:52.119
take all of his Halloween costable.
He leads down to his underwear, which

749
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:59.159
is embarrassingly skivvy. Guys out there, I've often said that in the podcasting

750
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:01.960
world, I'm a lifestyle coach where
boxer briefs just in case you ever get

751
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:07.280
stripped unintentionally, because nobody looks good
at briefs. Yeah, so he makes

752
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:13.800
him stripped down to his skivies so
that he's not upstaging him basically. Yeah,

753
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:16.840
which is a great example of what
Alexander's like and how everybody feels about

754
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:21.800
Alexander because nobody stands up for Paul, including Paul. Everybody just kind of

755
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.639
lets it happen because they all let
Alexander do whatever he wants because Alexander is

756
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:28.239
the powerful one. He's the one
with all the grand money. Yeah,

757
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.800
and apparently his art is amazing,
it's just that no one's ever seen it

758
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:36.440
because he displays at other places.
Yeah, it's touring. Yeah. Yeah,

759
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:40.840
his paintings are touring right now.
So the dog starts sniffing around,

760
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:46.000
Oh yeah, at the at the
freezer. So Lexi takes the dog outside.

761
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:53.519
And that's when we really start to
see everybody's personalities shine, because everybody

762
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:59.840
starts talking about how they're going to
make Chris's murder a work of art.

763
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:05.480
Yeah, And we kind of find
out as they're discussing that the reason they're

764
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:10.559
doing this is because Alexander is going
to award the grant of over or in

765
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:17.960
excess of three dollars to whoever makes
the best artwork out of this murder.

766
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:22.519
Yeah. And and and you've got
things like these conceptual things like staple of

767
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:24.719
pancake to his face and shove him
in front of the G train, and

768
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:30.320
no one we'll ever know. They're
Lexi wanting to film it and put it

769
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:36.960
in inside of her installation. And
then and then Paul is like, I

770
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:39.800
think my photographs speak for themselves.
He just wants to take a perfect medium

771
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:44.119
format photo on film. Yeah,
because he takes photos on film, which

772
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:47.239
in two thousand and seven was not
that quirky. It was quirky to do

773
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:51.960
medium format. That meant you were
like an artiste yeah, but it wasn't

774
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:57.119
quirky to take photos on film because
digital photography was just was just getting there

775
00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:00.039
to where it could look as you
know, it could be high art,

776
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:05.679
right. So, and that's that's
one of the things that I kind of

777
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:10.679
found funny is how much Chris Chris
is the only one, so you get

778
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:16.159
you get all these different creative personality
types, and and these guys are kind

779
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:21.519
of like the archetypes. So like
Paul is the one who is actually there

780
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:28.039
to work because he's constantly fiddling with
his camera and wanture he just wants to

781
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:31.800
take a really good picture. Will
on the other hand, when Will wants

782
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:37.079
to he'll sit there and paint obsessively. But then he'll get bored with that

783
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.800
and he'll just immediately go back to
his little handheld video game. And if

784
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:45.760
like he won't interact with people unless
they interact with him first. It's like

785
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:53.000
a little robot. And then Megan, he is literally only obsessed with Lexi,

786
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:59.920
Like that's the only thing he cares
about Lexi. It is not so

787
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:02.760
I mean to the point where it's
very funny and it's not subtle at all

788
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:07.760
that he is madly in love with
Lexi. And Lexi is only obsessed with

789
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:13.840
Alexander. Well, she's really only
obsessed with herself. Yes, and Alexander

790
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:17.320
would better her. Yeah, I
like the face you made you like,

791
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:27.719
uh huh. So that's after they've
all like kind of presented what they want

792
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.960
to do. Is when Alexander sits
there and kind of squares with them,

793
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:34.920
like, Okay, so you know
what we're going to be doing here.

794
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:38.639
I wanted you to forget that there's
grant money. I wanted you to do

795
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:44.320
this for the inspiration. And then
he am I getting too far ahead that

796
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:45.880
he pitches how he thinks they're going
to do it how he's like, he's

797
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:52.159
like, hold on, yes,
what if the act is the art,

798
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:59.239
We'll wait until the witching hour and
then we'll all gather around him and we'll

799
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:04.639
stab him. We'll all stab him
until he dies. And then and then

800
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:09.119
he goes on this massive speech about
like how this area will be condos Jamba

801
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:15.639
Juice's expensive apartments advertised his artist lofts, but they'll be our artist lofts because

802
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:21.000
what we do here tonight will change
everything. Like he's so manipulative. But

803
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:22.840
my favorite part is, I'm sure
you you know what I'm talking about.

804
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:27.280
My favorite part is what he says, I want the police report to say

805
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:37.840
cause of death art like like he
loves the spell of his own ship.

806
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:44.199
Oh my god, yes, just
that's it in a nutshell. So they

807
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:46.960
all eat it up too. Oh
they applaud and he's done saying everything.

808
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:50.159
They're like, oh, no,
that's great, except Chris, who's like

809
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:54.119
because they just said they're all gonna
stab him until he dies. So he's

810
00:57:54.159 --> 00:58:00.679
like freaking out and so they're all
sitting there applauding and like. But then

811
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:04.280
they realize like, oh, we
got to wait till the well, let's

812
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:09.519
get something. Yeah, we're hungry. So they all start the best bickering

813
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:14.800
about what they're going to order for
dinner. Pizza, no, no,

814
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:16.880
what about it goes I could go
for sushi. Well, let's just and

815
00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:23.840
sushi for lunch, sushi yesterday.
Let's roll out Asian altogether, like tacos,

816
00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:28.760
no Mexican, no burgers. I
owned fish and chips. I smell

817
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:34.039
vinegar. The drug drug dealer just
keeps asking for fish and chips because he

818
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:38.800
smells vinegar, which is like so
good, weld fish and chips. But

819
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:45.639
as they're arguing, they don't realize
that Chris is able to get out of

820
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:50.119
his out of his bonds. Yes, so they all look back at like,

821
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:54.679
oh shit, and his chairs just
empty. We'll tell you what Chris

822
00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:58.840
does, and we'll break down all
of that right here on cutting deep into

823
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:15.880
horror right after these quick words,
and we're back. So the Brown Knight

824
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:24.400
has escaped his custody and now he's
running through through this warehouse and everybody starts

825
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:31.440
grabbing random weapons and the music is
murders of don't Dun't, don't dun.

826
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:37.000
It makes them all look like they're
like murderous maniacs, when in reality they're

827
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:42.280
We've just we just spent twenty minutes
learning their nincompoops, but now we're scared

828
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:46.920
of them because they're all like grabbing
axes and baseball bats. And so my

829
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:54.760
favorite, my favorite first off is
uh Macon, oh yeah, grabbing the

830
00:59:54.840 --> 01:00:01.679
chainsaw, but it's an electric chainsaw. Crack around this plug and then find

831
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:06.039
an outlet to plug it in.
And then the other one again, going

832
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:09.599
back to Will being the one who's
like really the most terrifying character. Everybody

833
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:14.880
else is like grabbing weapons and getting
ready to chase Chris, and he's literally

834
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:16.639
there just sitting on his game,
like none of it registered. But in

835
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:21.480
the game it's saying like die die, everyone dies dies. He's killing in

836
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:27.639
a video game while his friends are
all trying to murder somebody. Though,

837
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:31.920
and then once they start like really
closing in on Chris, is when Will

838
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:36.920
just pops up grabs a bat and
then just books it. Yeah, well,

839
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:38.960
and the bat is part of his
costume. He is dressed as a

840
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:45.880
Warriors, yeah, from the Gang
and the Warriors. So they're all chasing

841
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:50.440
and and again you're terrified for Chris
because all these people have these weapons,

842
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:55.239
and Will and the drug dealer look
like they could do some damage everyone else,

843
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:58.960
like we glossed over. The drug
dealer had a gun, yes,

844
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:01.000
that he was pointing at, which
is one of the reasons Paul got undressed.

845
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:04.239
But then he was like, don't
worry, it's part of his costume.

846
01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:06.360
He's like, what's his costume?
And he didn't answer him. He

847
01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:13.679
just just anyway. So that's when
Chris the Brown Knight darts into like a

848
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:17.760
supply closet and they all just kind
of like wait around, and we as

849
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:22.000
the audience, are just sitting there
watching them, just like waiting and then

850
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:24.000
the way they show it. Talk
about telling a story by showing and not

851
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:27.599
telling. He's like looking in there, and it's like he sees like a

852
01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:29.760
fire extinguisher. He looks over and
he sees a bunch of tubing, and

853
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:30.880
he looks over and he sees and
you're starting to think like, okay,

854
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:35.840
what can you do with all this
stuff? So then the music builds and

855
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:37.559
builds, and then the camera's pulling
into the door. When he opens it,

856
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:42.039
he's just holding all the stuff and
he looks both ways and throws it

857
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:44.599
on the ground in front of them
and runs past them and they tackle him

858
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:50.360
and catch him. Funny story about
that scene, Okay, the where that

859
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:58.079
scene came from was Jeremy Solnier was
a advertising video person and he pitched to

860
01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:04.360
a television network a commercial to advertise
they were gonna start running marathons of mcguiver.

861
01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:07.400
You remember my guy. Yeahah,
they were gonna it was advertisement for

862
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:10.119
mcgiver, and he pitched them one
where there are these bad guys and this

863
01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:13.480
guy runs into a thing and he
looks at all the things he could use,

864
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:15.480
and then it comes out and just
throws it on the ground and then

865
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:17.039
they all catch him, start beat
him up, and he goes like missing

866
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:22.360
you, does your life need more? Mcguiver Like that was, oh,

867
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:24.239
I love it. So that was
literally where where that came from. That

868
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:28.679
was a mcguiver joke that they didn't
take the pitch, so he put it

869
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:30.800
in the movie. So he took
it. When that joke happened. The

870
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:34.280
first time I watched this movie,
I'm like twenty one years old. Twenty

871
01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:37.519
years old. That was when I
was like, all right, this movie,

872
01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:42.440
Like I just get fawed, Like
I laughed so hard I paused it.

873
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:47.119
This movie. This movie is guys, I'm serious. This is one

874
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:51.519
of my favorite movies to watch in
Halloween. It will make you laugh.

875
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:57.880
But toward the end there's some really
good tension. Yeah, like some really

876
01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:01.280
good suspense as well, but mostly
it is just unbelievably funny. So they

877
01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:04.760
capture him, and that's when I
was mentioning that. It cuts to them

878
01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:08.239
and he's now in chains. They
put metal chains around him so that he

879
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:13.960
can't escape. So he's all tied
up and we've got like a montage going.

880
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:17.119
So it's Will playing video games because
of course he is, and it's

881
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:22.239
uh, Paul trying so desperately to
take a picture, a professional picture of

882
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:32.159
Chris, and it's Macan just drinking
himself to oblivion and Lexi getting sucked by

883
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:36.599
Alexander. Now you jumped ahead this
that's after the Truth or to extreme truth

884
01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:38.280
or dare it? Does it twice? Oh? It did? Yeah?

885
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:42.119
I did it twice. I'm so
sorry. I'm I apologize. I don't

886
01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:49.519
mean to be And actually I had
to double check because that's yeah, yeah,

887
01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:51.719
that's what they do, because that's
what they do while they're waiting for

888
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:55.880
the food. Oh okay, I'm
confused then sorry, Yeah, Macan wasn't

889
01:03:55.920 --> 01:04:02.280
actually there. That's that's where I
messed up, as Megan wasn't there get

890
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:09.320
the food. And that's when he
notices that Alexi and Alexander have been fucking

891
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:13.400
and that's when he starts drinking.
Alexander turns to him and says, because

892
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:15.159
he make it, brought a cake
because he can't have a party without cake,

893
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:19.000
and Alexander looks at me and goes, a Lexi's pussy screamed at me

894
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:26.400
and he goes, what and he
goes, which is so good. The

895
01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:29.760
other wild montage is the one where
she goes, let's do coke. Yeah,

896
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.440
and then they party, so so
okay, So so now I have

897
01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:36.519
my bearings a little streng Now we
have our bearings, so we've got food.

898
01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:43.320
Obviously, Macon is absolutely crushed.
So that's when he starts drinking himself

899
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:47.079
to it to oblivion. And he's
drinking like an undisclosed booze out of jars,

900
01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:51.360
which makes it curious. Also,
later on they established that he might

901
01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:55.440
be from the South, which makes
me think that it's moonshine. It's probably

902
01:04:55.480 --> 01:05:02.480
moonshine. Yeah. So that's when
alexand Andrew's drug guy says that he's bored,

903
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:09.039
and so he whips out of truth
serum. Yes, a sodium amatol?

904
01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:12.280
Is that what they said? I
believe it was sodium amatol. I'll

905
01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:15.559
double check, but sodium a metal
is like all the cool kids are doing.

906
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:17.800
It's called extreme truth or dare.
All the cool kids are doing it

907
01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:26.880
in Belarus, Belarus. I'm pretty
sure it's sodium amatol. I don't know

908
01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.960
why I care this much, but
sodium. No, it's sodium amatol.

909
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.559
But it says sodium pentathol on here, but they did not say pentothal.

910
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:38.440
Okay, but but both are considered
a truth serum quote unquote, the real

911
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:47.199
c I A kg YEAH does not
use. So now they're all being bullied

912
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:53.480
by Alexander to inject an unknown substance. Subs they're told is sodium amathol,

913
01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:56.280
or maybe it was penththal, whatever, it doesn't mean. Whatever it is

914
01:05:56.320 --> 01:06:00.639
truth serum quote unquote, which is
basically barbituate. Barbituates just make it harder

915
01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:04.840
to lie. M That's why there's
no such thing as an actual truth serum.

916
01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:10.880
There's just the idea is you give
somebody something like a really strong barbituate

917
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:15.199
and make sure that they're convinced that
they can't lie on it. You just

918
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:17.199
make you like sell it really hard
before they take it. That you're like,

919
01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:19.679
once you're pumped full of this stuff, you won't be able to hide

920
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:24.800
the secrets, and that psykes them
out so that when they're so high they

921
01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:30.159
believe it's That's literally what both the
KGB and the CIA did is they would

922
01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:33.039
it's there's no such thing as a
lie detector. The most powerful way to

923
01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:36.719
do a lie. To use a
lie detector is to convince the party lying

924
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:42.559
that you can tell when they're lying, so that they give themselves up every

925
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:45.239
Oh, it drives me crazy.
I hate these people who do like the

926
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:49.800
PolyGram or the PolyGram polygraph tests.
Yeah, they're full of shit. The

927
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:55.280
secret is if you watch an exam, the examiner is constantly pushing you and

928
01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:58.199
saying like, now, be aware
if I see anything unusual, I'm gonna

929
01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:00.559
know that you're lying. Be aware
that this and this, because I'll know

930
01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:01.800
that you're lying, or like,
I saw something weird on that one.

931
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:03.679
Is there anything you want to tell
me? They're always trying to get you

932
01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:08.519
to confess, even though they should
know exactly when you're lying. M that's

933
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:11.639
why it's not admissible in court.
The show we just did on Terrifying and

934
01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:15.880
True is all about how people were
passing and failing live detector tests like crazy,

935
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:18.800
and nothing happened. It's because they're
not admissible. Courts know that they

936
01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:24.239
don't work. Yeah, so anyway, sorry anyway. But so now they're

937
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:28.320
all injected with this barbituate and this
is this is where the movie hits its

938
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:30.440
stride, the biggest stride, And
I think I think it was great because

939
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:33.880
they're showing it where they're arguing like, oh, we don't even have enough

940
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:36.800
needles, like that's gross and bake. It's like, I'll share a needle

941
01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:43.159
with Lexi and she's like, ew, that's gross. I'll share a needle

942
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.000
with Alexander. Well, she's like, she's like, I don't do needles.

943
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:47.559
It's like you're not to even feel
needle and she's like, I do.

944
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:49.639
Actually, it's like you do not
just feel the one that poke you

945
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:58.800
now and she's like the injected oral
And then Alexander's like injecting, you know,

946
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:01.280
trying to get people to inject,
but he fakes out Chris. Chris

947
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:06.400
is the one that notices. Alexander
injects it into the crust of his pizza,

948
01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:11.199
and Chris notices, but no one
else does, and Chris is gagged.

949
01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:15.559
Yeah, so he can't say anything. So good, So good,

950
01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:17.880
because then when they think Alexander's on
it, one of the first things they

951
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:20.439
ask him is like, do you
actually have three hundred thousand dollars in grant

952
01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:25.239
money? And he's like, no, it's more like half a mill.

953
01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:29.760
I love the faces that he makes, like when he's like yeah, you

954
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:32.600
know what he is. He's like
a more hateable David Blaine. When David

955
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:38.880
Blaine does a trick, he makes
face like whoa. But but like I

956
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:43.760
like David Blaine, Fine, I
want to punch Alexander. You know,

957
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:45.560
Alexander's the worst, so though,
but yeah, so they're doing Extreme Truth

958
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.159
or Dare. Sorry, they're doing
Extreme Truth or Dare. And it starts

959
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:54.840
out, We're all they're doing is
ragging on Paul. Yes, and they're

960
01:08:54.880 --> 01:09:00.479
just sitting around busting his balls.
And then they start because they're getting all,

961
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:05.159
you know, all goofy loose,
and they start just making puns based

962
01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:10.800
on the mean things that they're saying
about Paul. I'm having a fantastic night.

963
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:17.840
And then Chris starts squirming around in
the back you have, like I

964
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:21.399
have you have a bigger cleat terrest
than Lexi and he's pointing at the cleats

965
01:09:21.399 --> 01:09:25.760
on his sho They're all just making
puns about everything now yeah. Then Chris

966
01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:29.399
is like slapping he has one,
because he has one, and they're like,

967
01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:31.079
they're like hold on, hold on, and they pull them off down

968
01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:36.399
do the honors. So Alexander goes
over and he pulls his gag down and

969
01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:41.159
then Chris is like, uh,
actually, I think I think my moments

970
01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:45.039
passed, and Alexander's like, no, please, He's like, I think,

971
01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:48.720
and he's like, hey, making
grab that chainsaw, and okay,

972
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:53.439
okay, okay, okay, okay, he's like, and then he's like,

973
01:09:54.039 --> 01:10:00.039
I'm having one heck of a crazy
night, and everyone just as the

974
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:05.359
night and night, but but with
a k, and everyone just kind of

975
01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:10.199
looks at him like okay, and
then he's like, I don't deserve to

976
01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:20.199
be punish and then everyone just crass
and just pulls him over and then just

977
01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:29.439
injects it just in Jesus so that
he said the truth as well. So

978
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:34.239
then so now everyone's injected, and
and Chris is kind of like part of

979
01:10:34.279 --> 01:10:38.840
the gang now a little bit.
And so they decide to ask, you

980
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:42.000
know, where we need to start, like being honest? Should we start

981
01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:45.279
asking each other questions? And so
they ask who's the best artist here?

982
01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:53.920
And everyone goes me, I want
to god, it's so good and I

983
01:10:53.920 --> 01:11:00.520
want to mention. Remember earlier that
Alexander mentioned don't look at the guy is

984
01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:04.880
just some dildo. He's your collaborator. So he's like, kind of he's

985
01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:09.560
kind of following his own statement by
like pulling him in and letting it be

986
01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:15.760
part of the who's the best starts
here me, I love it. So

987
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:20.239
then they all start sharing secrets.
Well, but but Paul's is the head

988
01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:25.079
on Paul's her. No, Paul, Paul just out well. First thing

989
01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:28.640
he says is I think I'm bisexual. I think everyone No he' said no,

990
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:30.439
no. That's the second thing,
because he says, this doesn't work.

991
01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:33.680
I can lie right now. Ask
me a question my favorite color.

992
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:36.279
And he's like, what's your favorite
color? And he's like blue. See

993
01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:42.920
it's purple, and so he's like
purple blue and he's like, I'm bisexual

994
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:48.960
and I think pretty much everybody is. That's It's it's not prompted at all.

995
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:55.279
He's like, I can totally lie
I'm bisexual. It's such a great

996
01:11:55.359 --> 01:12:01.720
moment. And then Macan just absolutely
pours his heart out to Lexi and he's

997
01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:04.720
like, you know, you remember
that time we went to the I think

998
01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:09.239
it was like your tower, Yeah, the water tower demolished that. Yeah,

999
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:12.479
and we watched them demolish that building. And then and then you left

1000
01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:15.520
with well and then we smoked that
hash that felt that tasted like soap,

1001
01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:19.079
and you left with that scans guy, with that scans stretched out of your

1002
01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:21.680
lobes and at first, she doesn't
remember that. When he says that,

1003
01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:26.079
she's like, oh, yeah,
the water tower, Like she only remembers

1004
01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:31.600
the part that's not making yeah.
So and then he says and then he

1005
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:36.680
says, I've been saving this and
he's been saving a popsicle stick. We

1006
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:41.199
had popsicle stick, we had a
we had ice cream bars. So he's

1007
01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:45.119
been saving this popsicle stick and carrying
it around with him and she's just like

1008
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:54.199
cool, Okay. That's when Paul's
next funny thing is that one year he

1009
01:12:54.279 --> 01:12:57.720
wrote a letter to Santa and asked
him if he could not be dowish.

1010
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:02.319
I wrote a letter to Santa Claus
asking to not be Jewish anymore. Then

1011
01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:05.560
this is So, this is one
of the things I like about this movie

1012
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:10.039
is it's hilarious, but it does
have a lot to say about the art

1013
01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:12.720
world. Yes, and that's what
I wanted, because that's what you wanted

1014
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:15.479
to talk about it. Because when
you pitched Murder Party to me, I

1015
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:17.359
actually and you've pitched a few movies
on the show where I went and then

1016
01:13:17.399 --> 01:13:20.479
you had like one follow up and
I was like, oh, okay,

1017
01:13:20.479 --> 01:13:23.319
it's worth it. And this is
one of those where I was like,

1018
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:25.399
I love that movie, but is
it for cutting deep? And then you

1019
01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:28.279
were like, I think the stuff
about the art community, I think it

1020
01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:32.600
is so there. This is all
like pretty goofy stuff. Sure it's still

1021
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:36.159
relevant to the plot, but it's
it's pretty goofy stuff. And that's when

1022
01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:41.119
Will just flat out asks what everyone
thinks of him? What do you guys

1023
01:13:41.119 --> 01:13:45.560
say about me when we'd say about
me when I'm not around? And they

1024
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:48.920
all like emit immediately like, oh, well, we're going to kick you

1025
01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:54.720
out of the collector kicking because and
that's when Lexi says, well, it's

1026
01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:58.600
because we're insecure, and like,
I don't like the way I feel when

1027
01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:01.840
I look at your art because I
don't like anything that's good. Yeah,

1028
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:05.079
she says, I don't like anything
that's good because when everything is good,

1029
01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:10.680
then there's no room left for me, which is an incredible line, such

1030
01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:14.399
an incredible line. And then she
admits that she can't even look at good

1031
01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:20.239
art anymore because all she feels is
jealous. And when we first watched this,

1032
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:24.880
like the very first time we watched
this movie, that fucking blew me

1033
01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:27.920
away because I was just expecting up
to this point, like, oh,

1034
01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:30.720
this is goofy fun. I'm gonna
laugh my ass off, but I'm not

1035
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:34.079
gonna get like a lot out of
the movie. Sure, And then she

1036
01:14:34.239 --> 01:14:39.000
dropped that and I was like,
no, They've got a lot to say

1037
01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:44.800
here. Yeah, movie. So
so it was really this very interesting scene

1038
01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:46.640
where, yeah, it's pretty goofy, but then they really hit on it

1039
01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:51.920
where sometimes and I think this is
something that you've been dealing with the past

1040
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:59.920
week, is sometimes when you're jealous
of everyone else's accomplishments, you start getting

1041
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:04.640
down on your own sure, because
you can't see what you're accomplishing. All

1042
01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:09.079
you can see is what everyone else
is doing. Well, Jealousy is a

1043
01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:15.479
weird thing. And I've been very
I've had a very good career as a

1044
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:18.239
filmmaker, If I do say so
myself, I feel very happy with it,

1045
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:23.199
even though I would like more always, and I've dealt with that.

1046
01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:26.840
I've dealt with friends who insult you
while complimenting you. I remember the first

1047
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:30.640
time I had a movie in Walmart, which was a humongous accomplishment for some

1048
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:33.520
kid in Ohio to just do that. Yeah, And I had a friend,

1049
01:15:33.960 --> 01:15:38.439
former friend, supposedly friend, literally
go like, man, that's you

1050
01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:41.199
know that's really awesome. I mean, if I shopped there, I would

1051
01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:43.680
check it out. And I was
like, what does this have to do

1052
01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.600
with your freaking politics, dude?
I sold a movie to Walmart? Just

1053
01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:49.159
like, just be happy for me. I one dude literally say like,

1054
01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:51.880
dude, I admire you, Like
if I could sell out, I would,

1055
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:56.279
And I was like, we're not
friends anymore? Like what the hell?

1056
01:15:56.399 --> 01:15:58.439
Like, because what did I do
to sell out? I literally made

1057
01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:00.960
the movie I wanted, wrote it, edited it my way, released it

1058
01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.399
my way, and then Walmart took
it. They never had any input,

1059
01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:08.359
ye Bob, I just did it
your way. Well, I'm not saying

1060
01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:10.479
that that's why I'm such a genius. I made the Move, a movie

1061
01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:13.159
that Walmart wanted, and I knew
that I was making a movie that Walmart

1062
01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:17.079
wrote want. But so, and
to mention what you were kind of alluding

1063
01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:20.119
to, because I had mentioned earlier
this week on Weekly Spooky, Yeah,

1064
01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:25.920
I'm dealing with like some kind of
weird jealousy bullying from another podcaster or a

1065
01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:30.880
podcaster that I had no problem with
that I actually listened to his show oh

1066
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:32.800
a bit. I would say I
listened to like five shows that's a lot,

1067
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:36.600
you know, five hours of content, and he literally before I sent

1068
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:42.079
him an email confronting him with the
evidence that he was paying people to attack

1069
01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:45.960
my podcast. The last email he
sent me was praising my show, saying

1070
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:47.800
how great it was, but he
was paying people to not only say my

1071
01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:50.319
show was bad, but say that
I was bad, that I was a

1072
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:54.359
liar and a cheat, and that
Rob Field's one of our main authors,

1073
01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:59.000
was a bad person because they wrote
about like sexual situations with people under eighteen

1074
01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:01.319
in the stories Get out of here, Get the fuck out of here.

1075
01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:03.079
So, but I don't want to
I don't want to talk about this whole

1076
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:05.960
show. Yeah, but but more
so, yeah, like, if that

1077
01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:10.479
isn't coming from a place of jealousy, then it's coming from something worse.

1078
01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:15.359
And I'm not going to ascribe that
level of like evil malice to somebody.

1079
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:19.479
So I think he's just a regular
ole jealous jerk. Yeah. But so

1080
01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:24.239
that's my question. You know,
you went to art school, you studied

1081
01:17:24.279 --> 01:17:28.479
fine art, you hung out with
fine artists. What does this make you

1082
01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:31.039
think, Like, does this remind
you of the way it would sometimes be

1083
01:17:31.159 --> 01:17:33.640
when you were all social or what? Because I mean, obviously you're in

1084
01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:36.680
a smaller city and everything, but
I sometimes I think that makes it worse.

1085
01:17:38.119 --> 01:17:45.199
Yeah, Well, I feel lucky
because, especially in school, I

1086
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:50.479
feel like I was mostly for the
most part, going to classes with people

1087
01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:56.119
that were very solid, just good
solid individuals. So it was nice that

1088
01:17:56.159 --> 01:18:00.800
my peers were not the kind of
people that were going to like be really

1089
01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:08.479
jealous or like be really backstabby.
But as you mentioned, sometimes in small

1090
01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:12.960
cities things can be worse because at
least in a large city, there's like

1091
01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:20.319
lots of different social strata for the
artists, and in a smaller city it's

1092
01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:26.680
it's, you know, a much
smaller pond, so when things go south,

1093
01:18:27.560 --> 01:18:32.840
it tends to just spread like wildfire. So I've had to very carefully

1094
01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:42.640
like curate the group of creatives in
Dayton that I know are good, solid

1095
01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:45.920
people, because otherwise I'm just gonna
get sucked into drama. Like all the

1096
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:59.279
time, wait, artists dramatic making
stuff lay that doesn't happen. So yeah,

1097
01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:04.359
but that's the thing is, like, even if it's a smaller community,

1098
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:09.840
it you're still going to get that
kind of backlash every once in a

1099
01:19:09.880 --> 01:19:15.479
while, or you're going to run
into the people who take take like take

1100
01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:18.960
things personally, I guess. So
I can remember. I was vending at

1101
01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:25.960
one event, and it's kind of
when I had really cracked the nut of

1102
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:30.000
what kind of art people were going
to just buy out of my booth,

1103
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:36.960
and I did really really well one
sale, one sale, and I was

1104
01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:42.960
there working to booth, like by
myself and just like really working my ass

1105
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:48.920
off, and then I noticed that
people behind me were kind of like talking

1106
01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:54.640
behind my back a little bit about
how literally behind my back, about how

1107
01:19:54.720 --> 01:19:58.319
like it must be so lucky for
me because I had gotten there early to

1108
01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:01.560
set up or whatever, so it
must be so easy, and you know,

1109
01:20:01.640 --> 01:20:05.239
and I'm the one facing the entrance, so like, clearly I've got

1110
01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:10.520
all the nice I've clearly got all
the advantages. And all I could think

1111
01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:14.000
is, like, dude, I
am literally standing on my feet and the

1112
01:20:14.039 --> 01:20:16.680
people, you know, the moment
someone walks close to my booth, I

1113
01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:19.720
walk up to them, I approach
them. I talk like you've seen me

1114
01:20:20.119 --> 01:20:23.800
at events, you know, I
talk to them and I'll sit there and

1115
01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:28.000
I'll invite them to like touch stuff, and I'll engage them. And then

1116
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:30.279
the people behind me, they were
literally just sitting down playing on their phones.

1117
01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:34.119
Yeah, and then complaining that I
was the one making all the sales,

1118
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:41.039
and I was like, man,
just get out of your own head

1119
01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:47.520
for a minute and just be approachable
and maybe people will actually something, people

1120
01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:51.920
will actually want to buy from you. And that's again that's just a small

1121
01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:59.159
example, but you know, I
think that's what I liked about this movie

1122
01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:06.640
is any time I find myself feeling
jealous or even just kind of like getting

1123
01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:12.479
really down on myself because I feel
like I haven't accomplished what I wanted to,

1124
01:21:13.079 --> 01:21:17.000
I kind of remember that that little
talk that Lexi had and like,

1125
01:21:17.720 --> 01:21:23.319
you know what, the only person
I'm competing with is myself. I mean,

1126
01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:27.800
that's a that's a lame way to
get to you know, Sylvester Stallone

1127
01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:30.960
pointing in the mirror and saying,
that's the greatest enemy. You have a

1128
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.760
fight in the ring. You beat
him, and you can beat anybody.

1129
01:21:32.920 --> 01:21:35.439
God, I love Rocky so much. I know you do. I do

1130
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:40.319
too. Well. We'll be back
in just a moment to talk more about

1131
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:53.119
the Pains of Art as well as
Murder Party. Right after these words,

1132
01:21:56.479 --> 01:22:00.039
and we're back talking about Murder Party
and the way our artists like to stab

1133
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:06.399
each other in the back due to
insecurity and jealousy. So after that heart

1134
01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:12.199
felt and kind of an enlightening little
moment with Lexi, Yes, that's when

1135
01:22:12.319 --> 01:22:17.279
Chris pipes up, oh to share
his like, to share his embarrassing story

1136
01:22:17.359 --> 01:22:23.800
because I crapped myself in the back
away. And then he admits, like

1137
01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:30.359
he crapped himself at his cousin cousin's
wedding because he got stuck in traffic on

1138
01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:32.159
the way elevator, stuck in an
elevator on the way there, and it

1139
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:39.399
was like on a totally different side
of the venue and just all this really

1140
01:22:39.479 --> 01:22:45.279
really embarrassing, embarrassing detail. When
the elevator opened, there was a model

1141
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:48.520
airplane convention and the other hotel the
other side of the hotel, it was

1142
01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:51.079
like the elevators were then out of
order, so I had to walk up

1143
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:57.119
twenty six flights of stairs and it
touched my sock and it touched my sock.

1144
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:06.039
So so he admits that, and
then he admits I think that's when

1145
01:23:06.039 --> 01:23:09.239
he admits that he works for the
NYP. Oh. Yeah, they ask

1146
01:23:09.359 --> 01:23:14.119
like they start asking him just questions. Yeah, It's like it's like a

1147
01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:16.720
are you gay? Nope, Are
you a virgin? Nope? What's your

1148
01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:20.399
favorite album? Big Chill soundtrack?
See, I really do know this movie,

1149
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:24.520
my Big Chill Soundtrack. What do
you do for a living? I

1150
01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:27.319
work for the NYPD? And they
all freaking out. They're like, oh,

1151
01:23:27.319 --> 01:23:29.479
he's a cop. Did you search
it? Yeah? Yeah, that's

1152
01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:31.760
the drug dealers? Like did you
freek him? They're like, well,

1153
01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:34.359
there's no way he could be a
cop. There's no way he could be

1154
01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:36.960
a cop. And that's when he, you know, he says, well,

1155
01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:41.479
he works for the civilian branch and
the NYPD. I have worked for

1156
01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:45.039
this civilian branch of the NYPD.
I make twenty eight thousand dollars a year,

1157
01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:48.039
ruining people's days by giving out parking
tickets. And if I died,

1158
01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:50.439
no one would care, no one
would even notice. And I didn't even

1159
01:23:50.479 --> 01:23:54.479
tell anybody I was coming to the
murder party. And then he just passes

1160
01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:57.680
out. Yeah, that's my favorite, because he passes out. His head

1161
01:23:57.720 --> 01:24:00.159
just hangs there, and then it's
just a beat, a beat, a

1162
01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:03.279
beat, and then Lexi goes,
let's do coke, and that's when it

1163
01:24:03.319 --> 01:24:08.960
goes to the second mode. It
goes back to will painting, that's when

1164
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:16.439
uh, Mecon is just pouring his
grain alcohol all over himself and everywhere and

1165
01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:19.960
pouring it on himself. And that's
when they do the gag where they showed

1166
01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:27.319
Alexander having sex with Lexi and then
then show Alexander gazing at Chris, and

1167
01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:31.239
then Alexander's having sex with Chris and
with Paul, sorry Chris, Paul,

1168
01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:35.640
with Paul the the other yea,
the river He's having sex with him,

1169
01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:41.680
which is funny because he just admitted
he was bisexual. And then Lexi's going

1170
01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:48.359
crazy dancing, and then that's when
Mecan just passes out next to Chris and

1171
01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:56.039
uh hell hammer starts barking. So
Alexander tells Will to go out and check

1172
01:24:56.079 --> 01:25:00.399
on his dog, and it goes
to this great seed where Will's just the

1173
01:25:00.439 --> 01:25:03.279
dog. I hate you. I
hate you so much, hate you,

1174
01:25:03.359 --> 01:25:06.239
and the dog's just sitting there,
just doesn't even notice him there. It's

1175
01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:09.119
like, I hate you. At
least they're saying, like I kill the

1176
01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:12.720
furry ones, I kill them.
Like he's just out of his fucking mind.

1177
01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:21.840
Gordh it is Halloween. He should
be in his hoard. Oh So,

1178
01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:28.479
while Will's out brating the dog.
Uh. That's when everyone starts looking

1179
01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:30.720
at his painting. And whereas before
they had been saying like, oh,

1180
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:34.359
he's really good and he's they're gonna
kick him out of the collective because he's

1181
01:25:34.399 --> 01:25:40.680
so good, it's making them uncomfortable. Now they're just sitting there dissing it.

1182
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:47.079
I think it's so j Oh,
that's the perfect word. That's what

1183
01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:50.680
That's what he says. Oh,
that's the perfect word. So they're all

1184
01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:56.960
sitting around dissing it, and uh, they don't notice when Will gets back

1185
01:25:57.600 --> 01:26:01.760
and his demeanor has always been ice
cold, but now it is arctic.

1186
01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:10.560
Yeah. He goes, so,
will we get to the murder? And

1187
01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:15.760
of course the drug dealer agrees yes, Fish and chips after so, Alexander

1188
01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:18.239
pulls the drug dealer aside and says, if we're going to do this,

1189
01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:20.520
I need crank. I need a
bag big. I need a big,

1190
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:25.399
big bag of crank. He's like, one, that's not going to be

1191
01:26:25.399 --> 01:26:30.239
another need I need a big bag
crank crank, Fish and chips. He's

1192
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:35.239
like, no, but I'll after
so and and he says he's going to

1193
01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:40.000
stall everyone. So he's going to
install everyone. While the drug dealer goes

1194
01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:44.439
to get crank. So he starts
for citing the raven and he's only what

1195
01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:47.199
a line. You should know this
by heart because you love the Ravens A

1196
01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:51.279
long poem. Yeah, he's only
like five lines in, so so he's

1197
01:26:51.319 --> 01:26:55.039
not that far in. And they
hear someone knock at the door, and

1198
01:26:55.079 --> 01:26:59.920
then they actually hear someone, Hey, is anyone there. Paul goes in

1199
01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:03.880
answers and let someone in, and
it says photography, Yes, call this

1200
01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:09.319
photography assistant. Yeah, because everyone
was partying, because he's like, these

1201
01:27:09.319 --> 01:27:11.760
people are idiots. I just need
a couple of lights set up. I

1202
01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:14.359
just want to I just want to
counter I love it because I photo.

1203
01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:17.199
I do photography and stuff, so
I just want to counterbalance these fluorescent lights.

1204
01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:20.199
I just hate that green euro trash. David Fincher, Look, I'm

1205
01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:23.560
over it. Let's just try and
get that. And I knew. And

1206
01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:25.560
the funny thing is I knew exactly
what he was talking about. I was

1207
01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:28.000
like, okay, so you need
you need a stronger phill light than the

1208
01:27:28.039 --> 01:27:30.199
house lights, and then one key
to make sure he pops. Like I

1209
01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:34.279
knew exactly what he was talking about. Two thousand the best part so she

1210
01:27:35.079 --> 01:27:39.279
so she starts just shutting up lights
and not even asking questions, and Chris

1211
01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:44.000
is sitting there like he's goat,
and the artists are all yelling at each

1212
01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:45.600
other, and she like looks up. She's like and he's like, get

1213
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:47.199
out of here. She's like,
Oh, it's totally fine. I know

1214
01:27:47.239 --> 01:27:50.680
they're like this a lot. It's
like she's this is just part of her

1215
01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:55.159
job. Yeah, well she's I
got the vibe by the way he talked

1216
01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:59.840
to her that he was probably like
a junior or a senior in college and

1217
01:27:59.880 --> 01:28:02.920
she was probably a freshman, so
she was like helping, being his assistant

1218
01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:06.319
to learn. Yeah, that was
the vibe I got was that she was

1219
01:28:06.399 --> 01:28:10.359
like because she was you know why, because I think this is so silly,

1220
01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:13.000
but like because she was all smiles
about it. I feel like if

1221
01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:15.439
she was there for money, she
would have been like cantankerous. Yeah,

1222
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:17.600
but she was all smiles, which
is like, oh, if she's volunteering,

1223
01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:20.560
she's an underclassman and she wants to
learn from this guy. Yeah,

1224
01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:26.359
that was just my vibe something like
that. But this is all again,

1225
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:28.560
this is just a day in the
park to her, Like she is used

1226
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:31.760
to this, So they're all they're
all arguing because they don't like that that

1227
01:28:31.880 --> 01:28:36.800
Paul brought someone in. Yes,
Alexander and Lexi are like really upset about

1228
01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:41.560
this because it just relaxed. I
just want one photo and then she yeah,

1229
01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:44.079
and then she leaves, like and
this is all well before them,

1230
01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:47.760
the Witching hour, so she's not
gonna know anything. And someone even mentions

1231
01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:51.520
like stabbing and and Lexi's like,
don't say that, don't say that in

1232
01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:57.560
front of her. That's when Macon
wakes up sort of, I mean,

1233
01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:04.000
you know, kind of awake,
and he stumbles outside to smoke while everyone's

1234
01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:10.680
in there arguing, and he's sitting
there again talking to the dog, but

1235
01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:15.439
he's just still so wasteful putting the
werewolf mask on. The dog doesn't care

1236
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:19.000
and the dog, Yeah, dog's
just sitting there. And then he he's

1237
01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:25.960
what does he say? He wishes
something's have a dog's life man. Yeah,

1238
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:30.479
it's something like that. Puts the
cigarette in his mouth with his wolfman

1239
01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:36.119
masks on, lights up and that
just burst into flames because he was just

1240
01:29:36.399 --> 01:29:45.279
dousing himself in liquor. So Chris, the way he's situated, he can

1241
01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:47.800
see through the window that a fire
has just started, and he's alert enough

1242
01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:50.920
that he can see who wants hear
someone screaming, so he's trying to get

1243
01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:56.920
everyone's attention. Well, they're all
sitting there bickering and arguing. Uh,

1244
01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:00.359
Paul just wants to take his pictures, so he's just trying to tell everyone

1245
01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:03.960
to just leave him alone, while
Alexander and Lexi are really upset because he

1246
01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:11.239
brought someone in. And that's when
Pauliny and Alexander start arguing about the grant

1247
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:13.800
money. Yeah, he's like,
what is this grant? Why is your

1248
01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:15.800
phone number? I love that?
He's like, like the because it's in

1249
01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:18.520
the background while you're seeing like everything
else you hear go go like, can

1250
01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:21.119
we see some of your art?
Do a sketch, do a drawing?

1251
01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:26.359
Why is your phone number in New
Jersey area code? Like all this great

1252
01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:32.279
stuff. And then Lexi notices the
dog barking, so Alexander sends her outside

1253
01:30:32.319 --> 01:30:35.399
to just go take care of the
dog. She goes out there, and

1254
01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:40.479
that's when she sees Makon's on fire, so she runs inside and at first

1255
01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:45.359
she just runs inside, gets one
fire extinguisher and runs back out and then

1256
01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:49.399
realizes either expired or something it was
old water empty. Yeah, So she

1257
01:30:49.560 --> 01:30:55.880
runs back in and that's when he
come here right now. So they grab

1258
01:30:55.880 --> 01:31:01.319
a whole bunch of fire extinguishers and
run back out, and the assistant starts

1259
01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:11.680
dowsing Macon and yeah, Lexi brings
him in, helps bring him in and

1260
01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:15.319
bring him to the dog melted,
melted to his face. He's you know,

1261
01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:18.600
he probably still can't feel it though, because of all the mall for

1262
01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:29.039
him. So Lexi ties the dog
up to Chris's chair and goes to like

1263
01:31:29.119 --> 01:31:32.640
try to help Macon or you know, whatever was going on. And Chris

1264
01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:38.039
starts twirling the chair around and is
able to get the dog loose, and

1265
01:31:38.079 --> 01:31:41.960
the dog immediately be lines to the
freezer to reveal the dead girl. To

1266
01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:51.279
reveal the dead girl. So Alexander
finds the body and and he goes,

1267
01:31:51.680 --> 01:31:58.119
oh, one down, yes,
And then as he turns he gets injected.

1268
01:31:58.800 --> 01:32:01.000
Yeah, he just and there's a
needle in his neck. He's being

1269
01:32:01.079 --> 01:32:05.479
injected. I think they hint that
it's Paul who did it. Yeah,

1270
01:32:05.640 --> 01:32:08.760
but I don't think they show who
did it. They don't. I don't

1271
01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:11.960
think they do. But so he
gets injected with the sodium pentothal or whatever

1272
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:15.199
it is, and then he goes, Alexander, who are you really and

1273
01:32:15.199 --> 01:32:19.279
he goes, I'm a fry cook. So good, it's so good.

1274
01:32:19.640 --> 01:32:25.720
Instantly, is your name really Alexander, it's Tim. It's Tim. Yeah.

1275
01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:28.359
I love I love that. It's
like his name isn't even Alexander,

1276
01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:32.880
it's Tim. So then they get
out his sketchbook or his notebook, but

1277
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:38.520
what he's drawing in there and they
start going through it. There's a shopping

1278
01:32:38.600 --> 01:32:42.720
list for his mom. I met
a musil and sentrum silver or the things

1279
01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:45.760
I read on there, and then
there's like a list of like cool words

1280
01:32:45.880 --> 01:32:53.119
cool June is. He's like,
Jun are you writing stuff? Says yeah,

1281
01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:59.760
I do. So then they start
grilling in on on what he's done

1282
01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:01.680
with artwork, and he says,
well, it's in my grandma's house in

1283
01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:04.760
New Jersey. And then they asked, well, what were you going to

1284
01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:06.640
do with it? And he said, well, I was going to murder

1285
01:33:06.720 --> 01:33:11.119
all of you, and then I
was gonna sell it because or isn't worth

1286
01:33:11.119 --> 01:33:16.319
anything. Would you're still alive?
So as they're grilling him, the drug

1287
01:33:16.359 --> 01:33:20.479
dealer comes back with the crank and
he just kind of sets it down and

1288
01:33:20.920 --> 01:33:25.880
he sets the grink down next to
Alexander and has fish and chips in his

1289
01:33:25.960 --> 01:33:34.680
hand. Fucker stopping anyway. So
then Tim, who who we now know

1290
01:33:34.840 --> 01:33:41.399
is Tim, tells the drug dealer
to shoot Paul in the head while just

1291
01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:44.600
sitting there trying to take a picture. Yeah, because because they said we're

1292
01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:47.119
all gonna leave. That was something
that we glosst over because we were too

1293
01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:49.960
busy laughing at Alexander. There's a
part where he says like we're getting out

1294
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:54.159
of here and uh, and everybody's
like, yeah, let's leave. He's

1295
01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:57.239
like, we're all leaving. I
just want to take one picture because it's

1296
01:33:57.239 --> 01:33:59.600
like, after all that effort,
I think we wanted to have that picture

1297
01:33:59.640 --> 01:34:02.239
as the fall of like that one
crazy murder party night. So he's like,

1298
01:34:02.359 --> 01:34:04.039
I just want to take one picture, and we're all gonna leave,

1299
01:34:04.039 --> 01:34:08.159
And they even make it clear they're
going to Untie Chris like they're all leaving

1300
01:34:08.439 --> 01:34:15.039
because Alexander's full of shit, He's
a piece of shit, and them Yes,

1301
01:34:16.279 --> 01:34:23.479
that's when Alexander. Tim tells the
drug dealer shoot Paul on the head

1302
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:26.239
and shoot Paul in the face.
Shoot Paul in the face, Hey,

1303
01:34:26.279 --> 01:34:29.920
dude, shoot Paul in the face, and he does. But the best

1304
01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:32.800
part is Paul falls down and then
he gets up and is, Oh,

1305
01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:36.560
what the fuck. I can't believe
you. You didn't point this out as

1306
01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:41.640
an artist yourself. He snaps the
photo the moment his head he gets hit

1307
01:34:41.680 --> 01:34:44.760
by the bullet. So the picture
gets taken, and I bet that picture

1308
01:34:44.760 --> 01:34:48.039
would be amazing because the reaction on
Chris's face is seeing him get shot.

1309
01:34:48.920 --> 01:34:51.119
Yeah. But then but then he
turns around and bloods port out. He's

1310
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:55.199
like, oh, come on,
I just want to get one photo.

1311
01:34:55.239 --> 01:34:58.359
And then they shoot him again,
and he's still yelling. He's so angry,

1312
01:34:58.399 --> 01:35:02.560
angry that he can't do his art, that he's not he's literally not

1313
01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:08.560
dying. Thought it out of this
entire night was one photograph, and I

1314
01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:11.920
I know what that's like though,
when you're doing like a serious photo assignment

1315
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:15.520
for yourself, It's like, you
just want one photograph to show people when

1316
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:19.039
you're done. Oh yeah, I
get it. So so now he starts.

1317
01:35:19.359 --> 01:35:24.800
He shoots the assistant as well,
because he tells him kill them all,

1318
01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:29.520
kill them all, man, And
then see it gets really like there's

1319
01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:33.319
a lot going on in the sequence
because we see Will just sitting there playing

1320
01:35:33.359 --> 01:35:36.439
a video game, and then we
see the dog walk walk up and the

1321
01:35:36.479 --> 01:35:43.359
dog grab grabs the bag of crank
and then Lexi jumps the drug dealer and

1322
01:35:43.479 --> 01:35:46.640
just starts attack and starts ripping at
her and drops on the ground and starts

1323
01:35:46.640 --> 01:35:50.960
beating it up, beating her up. That's when Megan wakes back up and

1324
01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:57.840
he grabs a hatchet and he he
starts uh chopping off the drug dealer's leg.

1325
01:35:58.479 --> 01:36:10.600
Yes, but then then Will snaps
grabs an axe flunk right into Lexi's

1326
01:36:10.600 --> 01:36:14.720
head yep, and her wig comes
off and she falls down dead, just

1327
01:36:15.039 --> 01:36:19.000
dead. Then he grabs uh.
Well, the dog starts attacking Tim because

1328
01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:25.840
it back so it attacks Alexander Tim
and rips his face off. We see

1329
01:36:25.880 --> 01:36:30.079
him crawl back out and his face
hell Hammer's covered in blood. We've left

1330
01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:32.560
out the part where he mentioned when
he was when he was on Truth Serum

1331
01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:35.439
that he was having hell Hammer put
to sleep on Monday, and they go,

1332
01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:39.479
why what's wrong with He's like nothing, He's just not cute anymore.

1333
01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:45.199
I only like puppies. I don't
like dogs. So they really established that

1334
01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:48.239
hell Hammer had every reason to hate
his ass. Yeah. Good for him.

1335
01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:50.479
Yeah, Chicano was laying on my
foot right now, and he's like,

1336
01:36:50.560 --> 01:36:58.279
yeah, that guy hell Hammer's cool. So Will as as Alexander's climbing

1337
01:36:58.880 --> 01:37:04.359
clawing on the floor with his with
his face maimed, Will grabs his bat

1338
01:37:04.880 --> 01:37:10.760
and starts wailing on him. Yes, just beats him to death. He

1339
01:37:10.840 --> 01:37:18.359
starts screaming, everybody dies, everybody
dies. Uh. That's when Chris is

1340
01:37:18.439 --> 01:37:25.399
able to escape and starts fleeing through
the warehouse. But then Will sees him

1341
01:37:25.640 --> 01:37:30.840
and starts chasing him, and then
making Macon starts chasing Will because he killed

1342
01:37:30.920 --> 01:37:35.000
Lexi and we over we we overshot. One thing about Macon. Macon is

1343
01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:42.640
horrifyingly burned. His face is like
nothing but blood and the mask has melted

1344
01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:46.800
to him. He looks like a
real monster. Yeah, and everything he

1345
01:37:46.840 --> 01:37:53.039
does, his every motion he makes
is horrific pain. He's like, ah,

1346
01:37:53.079 --> 01:37:56.920
like the entire time he's walking moving, and he grabs that electric chainsaw

1347
01:37:57.600 --> 01:38:02.239
and a shitload of extension cord and
starts making his way after the two of

1348
01:38:02.279 --> 01:38:05.279
them, and to find out more
about what's going to happen. In the

1349
01:38:05.319 --> 01:38:10.199
thrilling conclusion of Murder Party, I'm
afraid you're just going to have to stick

1350
01:38:10.199 --> 01:38:27.000
around till after this commercial break,
all right. So the thrilling conclusion of

1351
01:38:27.079 --> 01:38:31.520
Murder Party. Now we have Chris
running for his life, climbing through various

1352
01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:38.279
elements of industry. Basically, he's
crawling through backways and alleyways and conveyor belts.

1353
01:38:38.319 --> 01:38:41.239
One of the best moments is when
he's going up a conveyor belt and

1354
01:38:41.279 --> 01:38:44.000
then what's this the crazy belt?
It Will and then Will comes up and

1355
01:38:44.039 --> 01:38:47.000
he presses the button so it conveys
him back down. But while it is

1356
01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:51.720
funny, it is very suspenseful because
this dude has gone so crazy. He's

1357
01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:57.560
killed all of his friends like a
psychopath, and he keeps screaming everybody dies,

1358
01:38:57.720 --> 01:39:04.319
everybody dies, everybody dies. So
it's getting a little spooky. So

1359
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:09.399
as they're as they get on the
rooftop, they start crossing rooftops and that's

1360
01:39:09.439 --> 01:39:13.840
when it's really apparent this is near
Brooklyn because as they cross the rooftops,

1361
01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:16.119
they end up finding rooftops that are
empty, and then rooftops where people are

1362
01:39:16.119 --> 01:39:20.159
having a party. Yeah, and
then we realize that they're actually almost to

1363
01:39:20.279 --> 01:39:26.800
Cicero's party yep, which brings everything
back around. Hen Wolf just decided she

1364
01:39:26.840 --> 01:39:29.920
wanted to lay on all of the
cables in the studio. That's right,

1365
01:39:30.199 --> 01:39:32.000
it's fair as her. It's her
home. I just live in it.

1366
01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:39.399
So so now, like we have
some great memorable moments like when like when

1367
01:39:39.479 --> 01:39:44.119
Chris finally gets away and can't see
Will, he stops and takes a pee,

1368
01:39:44.159 --> 01:39:46.359
which is one of the most human
and amazing because he hasn't peed in

1369
01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:49.359
like six hours. Yeah, and
there's even that part where making was like

1370
01:39:49.800 --> 01:39:54.159
jopy yourself when he was like crazy
drunk and he's like no, he's like,

1371
01:39:55.239 --> 01:39:59.279
O, tell anybody. I love
the way he talked when he was

1372
01:39:59.359 --> 01:40:02.479
drunk too, because he like smell
his breath by the way he like he

1373
01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:08.319
was trying to get alcohol vapors out
of his body, like he's don't worried.

1374
01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:11.399
But yeah, there's even a reference
like how long he's gone without a

1375
01:40:11.399 --> 01:40:15.880
bathroom? Right. So, but
the the other great thing about the pursuit

1376
01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:19.880
again going back to the medicine,
Yes, because he manages to dodge and

1377
01:40:19.960 --> 01:40:25.600
like hide under a just a ledge, like it's like it's like a three

1378
01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:28.800
foot ledge because we're on a rooftop, right, So he hides behind a

1379
01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:31.279
ledge and Will misses it, walks
right past, and yeah, you think,

1380
01:40:31.319 --> 01:40:34.000
like, okay, this is great
because he can get away, and

1381
01:40:34.039 --> 01:40:39.880
then his alarm goes off for medicine. This is an old school wristwatch alarm

1382
01:40:39.960 --> 01:40:44.399
for those of you who are pushing
forty like us, you know that's the

1383
01:40:44.520 --> 01:40:48.319
beat beat. Yeah, so that
Will is back on his track. He

1384
01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:51.399
runs, but then he runs and
ducks behind and then finds a place to

1385
01:40:51.439 --> 01:40:56.960
take his medicine because he's that much
of a wiener. He's like, no,

1386
01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:00.039
I can't I can't miss a dose. So as he's going, then

1387
01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:05.640
we see Macon who's like easily five
steps behind them, you know, figuratively,

1388
01:41:06.079 --> 01:41:10.600
So he's like coming along and he's
trying and he keeps finding extension cord

1389
01:41:10.640 --> 01:41:14.640
and spreading his extension cord out and
all this stuff. And now our Brown

1390
01:41:14.760 --> 01:41:17.680
Knight has found the rooftop party yep. And he goes there and he's like,

1391
01:41:17.960 --> 01:41:20.359
we have a phone? Does anybody
have a phone? And nobody seems

1392
01:41:20.399 --> 01:41:23.399
to help him or want to help
him. He's like, I need a

1393
01:41:23.399 --> 01:41:26.760
phone. I'm looking for a phone. And he walks into this one hallway

1394
01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:30.880
and there's this a guy smoking a
cigarette in a phone costume. He's in

1395
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:34.960
a highway costume dressed as a cell
phone. So then Will comes in,

1396
01:41:35.239 --> 01:41:39.720
but Will doesn't start killing everybody.
He's like, wait, these are like

1397
01:41:39.760 --> 01:41:42.640
my friends. So he like has
a beer and he's talking with everybody,

1398
01:41:43.119 --> 01:41:47.359
and so as our Brown Knight is
trying to escape, Will ends up stopped

1399
01:41:47.359 --> 01:41:50.800
by Cicero. Yeah, and we're
jumping ahead a little bit, but not

1400
01:41:50.840 --> 01:41:53.840
really. I mean, it's it's
a chase scene. How much can we

1401
01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:56.520
give you? You know exactly.
So he's talking to Cicero and he's like

1402
01:41:56.680 --> 01:41:59.840
and he's like, hey, so
good to see you man, And he's

1403
01:41:59.880 --> 01:42:02.600
like, it's good to see you
too. He's like, hey, have

1404
01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:04.680
you looked at the show yet,
Like I could let you in early and

1405
01:42:04.680 --> 01:42:08.000
he's like, oh no, look
it looks cool. He's like, yeah,

1406
01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:12.239
we're getting ready to let people in
and uh and Cicero's nice like sort

1407
01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:15.000
of yeah. He even says like, oh we should we should should have

1408
01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:17.119
a show, should have a showy
And at one point that's when he does

1409
01:42:17.159 --> 01:42:19.119
say the thing where he's like,
wait are they letting people in? And

1410
01:42:19.159 --> 01:42:23.560
he puts his ear piece and he
goes the show isn't open yet, Dildo's

1411
01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:25.840
and that's when you kind of are
like, what, like, why is

1412
01:42:25.880 --> 01:42:30.760
he talking like Alexander? Yeah,
and that's when Cicero says, oh,

1413
01:42:30.079 --> 01:42:33.399
have you seen Alexander? Do you
know if he's coming tonight? I wanted

1414
01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:36.640
to talk to him about a grant? And then he's like, let me

1415
01:42:36.640 --> 01:42:40.479
get you a drink and we'll talk
some morn. He walks away and Will

1416
01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:44.600
says his line, you remember it. Oh, I fucking hate this.

1417
01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:47.960
Just this, this whole scene,
this whole scene. Everybody died. Everybody

1418
01:42:48.800 --> 01:42:56.000
Now. Chris has entered one of
the rooms for the art display. Oh

1419
01:42:56.039 --> 01:42:59.119
man, your face, Rache's losy. I want you to describe it because

1420
01:42:59.159 --> 01:43:00.960
you love it so much. This
is so I love it so much because

1421
01:43:01.039 --> 01:43:06.399
this is the kind of ship I've
seen, I seen, I set it.

1422
01:43:06.720 --> 01:43:12.119
But so he walks into this room
and it's a room. It's the

1423
01:43:12.159 --> 01:43:14.920
walls are all white. Yeah,
it's it's a it's like a white brick

1424
01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:20.079
room, white brick room, and
there's like white pedestals with jack O lanterns

1425
01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:25.279
around, and there's a whole bunch
of people that are in body paint but

1426
01:43:25.399 --> 01:43:30.680
no clothes and so Chris walks in
and the first shot you see is kind

1427
01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:33.039
of like the whole room, and
then you see a shot goes to a

1428
01:43:33.079 --> 01:43:42.079
sign that's just a printed out just
from this is art with a question mark.

1429
01:43:42.640 --> 01:43:45.680
And then you see a shot of
the lady's boobs and you know they're

1430
01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:48.520
all painted, and then it goes
to a shot of the lady just like

1431
01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:55.359
stretchingleau. Yeah, so they're they're
all just kind of like those living the

1432
01:43:55.399 --> 01:43:59.840
living statues. Yes, so there's
a lady there just stretching. So it

1433
01:44:00.279 --> 01:44:01.680
goes to her and then it pans
back to the boobs, and then it

1434
01:44:01.720 --> 01:44:05.479
pans to Chris, and then he
says, we all have to hear he's

1435
01:44:05.479 --> 01:44:10.039
gonna have a phone and and and
nobody has a fight. He's like,

1436
01:44:10.079 --> 01:44:12.239
well, and when he hears him
coming, he's like, we have to

1437
01:44:12.560 --> 01:44:14.600
if we if we if we all
want to die, we have to fight.

1438
01:44:14.640 --> 01:44:16.520
And one of the guys goes,
I'm a lover, not a fighter,

1439
01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:23.039
and it acts just sla So Chris
hides behind one of the one of

1440
01:44:23.039 --> 01:44:29.359
the pedestals. Well Will just goes
through every and everyone legs off and just

1441
01:44:29.479 --> 01:44:34.680
chopping people to bits, and so
then it cuts to Macon and he makes

1442
01:44:34.720 --> 01:44:40.359
his way to the party, and
it's amazing because he's finally phoned an outlet.

1443
01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:44.880
Yeah, he follows like the Christmas
lights and he's like and he like

1444
01:44:44.920 --> 01:44:49.600
plugs the chainsaw in, and so
he plugs it in and then he has

1445
01:44:49.680 --> 01:44:54.279
this great, great moment where he
lifts the chainsaw up and he's revving it

1446
01:44:54.439 --> 01:45:00.680
and he's yeah, killed Lexi.
But he's right at the of the building

1447
01:45:00.760 --> 01:45:04.199
and he just falls over. Then
we smash cut back into the art installation

1448
01:45:04.399 --> 01:45:09.159
room and Chris is kind of like
begging and pleading for his life with Will,

1449
01:45:09.319 --> 01:45:11.560
like please don't do it. What
he's saying is he's like, why

1450
01:45:11.600 --> 01:45:14.720
are you killing everybody? Stop killing
everybody? And I love that that's what

1451
01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:15.119
he has to say. He's like, why are you killing your body?

1452
01:45:15.119 --> 01:45:20.159
Stop killing everybody, because literally says
like, please stop killing everyone, Please

1453
01:45:20.199 --> 01:45:27.039
stop killing everyone. We see Macon
fall right behind the window and then the

1454
01:45:27.159 --> 01:45:34.720
chainsaw is just dead. So Chris
reaches and grabs the chainsaw and he he

1455
01:45:35.399 --> 01:45:42.000
gets it right in Will's head,
right into Will's head, and just and

1456
01:45:42.119 --> 01:45:45.359
you feel so bad for him,
because not for Will, not for Will,

1457
01:45:45.479 --> 01:45:47.840
for Chris, for Chris for Chris, because you can see the terror

1458
01:45:48.039 --> 01:45:54.239
and just just how bad he felt
in his face, and even like when

1459
01:45:54.319 --> 01:45:57.720
he was done, he looks sorry
because he's holding the saw in his face.

1460
01:45:57.800 --> 01:46:00.399
The way they show it is so
ghastly, one eyes wide open,

1461
01:46:00.439 --> 01:46:02.079
the other eyes being sawed through the
chainsaw. And as he's doing it,

1462
01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:04.479
blood spray on. He's like,
oh guy, it's gross. It's gross.

1463
01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:08.479
He's literally saying, oh God,
it's gross. It's gross. So

1464
01:46:08.640 --> 01:46:13.359
that after he's killed Will, he's
just covered in blood, I mean from

1465
01:46:13.399 --> 01:46:17.520
head to toe. And one of
my favorite moments in the whole movie is

1466
01:46:17.600 --> 01:46:24.680
he walks out as they're opening the
art show and people look in and they're

1467
01:46:24.720 --> 01:46:30.720
like, oh, still life as
performance are fascinating and uh and and and

1468
01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:32.199
Chris walks up to one of the
guys with the headset and he goes,

1469
01:46:32.600 --> 01:46:34.600
ye, can I see your phone? Yeah, because your phone, and

1470
01:46:34.640 --> 01:46:38.000
he handed to him and he goes, he puts nine to one one and

1471
01:46:38.079 --> 01:46:40.720
then hands it to him, goes
it's real, and it just walks off

1472
01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:45.239
and it just leaves. It's so
good. It's so good, it's real.

1473
01:46:45.439 --> 01:46:49.720
So and then the ending is such
a perfect wrap up for this character

1474
01:46:49.720 --> 01:46:56.000
because first you see him in the
elevator and he's just looking at his hands

1475
01:46:56.079 --> 01:46:59.159
covered her blood. Yeah, and
then he realizes he does. He goes

1476
01:46:59.239 --> 01:47:01.159
to use the subway. He remembers
Alexander took his wallet. Yeah, so

1477
01:47:01.239 --> 01:47:05.479
he doesn't have a new money.
So then it's just him walking through Manhattan,

1478
01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:13.039
through Manhattan, and again he's walking
along the dock. Yeah. Yeah,

1479
01:47:13.159 --> 01:47:15.479
he's on a period. He's on
the pier and his alarm goes off

1480
01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:20.520
and he reaches into his pocket and
looks at his medicine and again covered head

1481
01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:30.119
to toe in blood and justus.
He gets back home, he takes the

1482
01:47:30.199 --> 01:47:33.880
bowl of candy. Eight pieces of
candy, corn left, nothing left,

1483
01:47:33.880 --> 01:47:38.039
there's nothing left. Eight there's eight. I would expect none, there's eight.

1484
01:47:39.039 --> 01:47:42.520
So he gets back inside. He
drinks milk straight from the cart and

1485
01:47:43.600 --> 01:47:49.479
gold gold, gold, and then
the and then he walks with his bowl

1486
01:47:49.560 --> 01:47:55.880
of candy. He walks up to
the seat with Sir lances a Lot still

1487
01:47:55.960 --> 01:48:01.119
laying. He says, Sir Lancelot, please move, please move, and

1488
01:48:01.239 --> 01:48:03.920
Sir Lean's a lot does well for
Sir Lanceloon. Stairs, he goes,

1489
01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:08.640
oh and then like gets off the
couch. So then he sits down on

1490
01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:13.479
the couch, turns on scare Wolf
on the TV, eats the piece of

1491
01:48:13.560 --> 01:48:18.720
candy corn boom credits. That's it, freakin'. That's an amazing movie,

1492
01:48:19.479 --> 01:48:24.239
so funny. If you haven't seen
it, guys, seriously, it's on

1493
01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:27.399
twob You could buy a DVD for
dirt cheap if you're one of those people

1494
01:48:27.479 --> 01:48:30.920
like me who likes to collect physical
media. It is such a great movie.

1495
01:48:31.720 --> 01:48:36.479
And like if if I know that, like when people podcast and radio

1496
01:48:36.479 --> 01:48:40.560
and stuff, they like to laugh
a lot, but we could. This

1497
01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:45.439
movie is just so fucking funny,
Like my side's hurt after watching it and

1498
01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:49.800
talking about it, my side's hurt. So it is absolutely worth your time.

1499
01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:53.279
It's funny, it is scary.
Toward the end, you really do

1500
01:48:53.399 --> 01:48:56.880
get scared that Will's going to catch
Chris. Oh yeah, And I love

1501
01:48:57.319 --> 01:49:01.039
Will's development of just everybody dies,
everybody he dies. You know, it's

1502
01:49:01.159 --> 01:49:06.520
so good And I really can't overstate
that moment where he realizes even Cicero is

1503
01:49:06.680 --> 01:49:11.800
just another pretender who believes the bullshit
of Alexander because that's kind of what he

1504
01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:13.800
thinks. He's like, oh yeah, Like Cicero is a cool guy,

1505
01:49:13.880 --> 01:49:15.319
and then he's like, I wanted
to talk to him about the grant and

1506
01:49:15.399 --> 01:49:18.600
he realizes, like, this whole
scene is bullshit. Everybody's a fucking liar

1507
01:49:18.640 --> 01:49:21.000
here. Yeah, so that's why
he's like, fuck this whole scene.

1508
01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:26.159
Everybody does you know? And I
love and Chris is the character Chris the

1509
01:49:26.199 --> 01:49:30.680
Brown Knight. He ends the story
just going back to what he would have

1510
01:49:30.840 --> 01:49:33.079
done if he hadn't gone to the
murder party. He's like, I'm just

1511
01:49:33.119 --> 01:49:36.600
gonna sit on the couch and drink
some milk and eat some candy corn and

1512
01:49:36.680 --> 01:49:42.920
watch a scary movie. I love
that so much. The movie crescendo's perfectly.

1513
01:49:43.359 --> 01:49:47.239
It foreshadows beautifully, and it ends
in a way that is not only

1514
01:49:47.399 --> 01:49:53.479
funny, but it's extremely satisfying.
What about you, what are your thoughts

1515
01:49:53.520 --> 01:49:57.520
on it? Well? I think
that satisfying is the best way to put

1516
01:49:57.560 --> 01:50:00.760
it, because it doesn't feel like
anything's cheap, and it feels like everything

1517
01:50:02.439 --> 01:50:08.760
everything pays off. And again,
it's it's what I like about it,

1518
01:50:08.840 --> 01:50:11.960
and the reason I wanted to talk
about it is, Yeah, it's hilarious

1519
01:50:12.159 --> 01:50:15.880
and it's a great story, but
I also think that it does have a

1520
01:50:15.960 --> 01:50:21.600
lot to say about the art world, because there is there is always kind

1521
01:50:21.640 --> 01:50:26.279
of that moment where you see behind
the curtain and you realize, oh,

1522
01:50:26.319 --> 01:50:31.399
it is all bullshit. But instead
of being like will, where you let

1523
01:50:31.479 --> 01:50:38.640
it get to you and you become, you know, an awful, awful

1524
01:50:38.720 --> 01:50:43.119
person, you can just choose to
be like, Okay, well that's the

1525
01:50:43.199 --> 01:50:46.800
way it is. It's real,
just like Chris said, and move on

1526
01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:50.640
with your life. Okay. I
like that viewpoint. I had not really

1527
01:50:50.720 --> 01:50:54.800
considered it that way. I like
that. I like that a lot.

1528
01:50:55.880 --> 01:51:00.159
So anything else you want to say
about Murder Party, because all all I

1529
01:51:00.239 --> 01:51:04.359
have to say is that, I
mean, it is the quintessential Halloween horror

1530
01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:09.800
comedy. I don't know that anything
touches it unless we go as deep as

1531
01:51:09.920 --> 01:51:15.319
to reference like Ernest Scared Stupid,
which is really good and fun. Yeah,

1532
01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:18.720
all I gotta say is you've got
You've got to watch it, And

1533
01:51:19.720 --> 01:51:25.880
I bet that a lot of our
listeners will, if they haven't watched it

1534
01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:29.680
before, they'll find that this will
become one of their Halloween stables. I

1535
01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:32.880
don't know how it couldn't become a
Halloween staple, because it is a Halloween

1536
01:51:32.920 --> 01:51:36.840
staple in my life and has been
four forever. And I will say like

1537
01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:43.640
a lot of people have become fans
of this movie recently, okay, because

1538
01:51:43.640 --> 01:51:45.760
it went back on Netflix. Was
on Netflix for a while, and it

1539
01:51:45.840 --> 01:51:48.239
came back about four years ago,
so it's been a Netflix a few times.

1540
01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:54.800
And Jeremy Solnyer becoming more and more
famous has helped a lot good because

1541
01:51:55.359 --> 01:51:58.960
you know, he directed it and
it's his first feature. So I just

1542
01:51:59.039 --> 01:52:00.319
yeah, I hope you guys check
it out. I hope you guys enjoined

1543
01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:05.520
us talking about it and laughing about
it. Yeah. I love this movie.

1544
01:52:05.680 --> 01:52:09.920
And I also want to mention we're
going to be back before the end

1545
01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:14.000
of October. Yeah, and we're
going to be talking about Event Horizon,

1546
01:52:15.159 --> 01:52:18.199
So we're gonna head back to our
roots of talking about movies that are just

1547
01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:23.920
terrifyingly scary. Yeah. And Rachel
is the resident lover of sci fi.

1548
01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:26.960
Although I enjoy some sci fi too, but Rachel is the big sci fi

1549
01:52:27.079 --> 01:52:30.640
lover, so you know, yeah, look out for that. That'll be

1550
01:52:30.680 --> 01:52:33.960
coming out in the next week or
so before Halloween happens. So uh,

1551
01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:35.960
I just want to thank everybody for
listening to this, and I want to

1552
01:52:35.960 --> 01:52:39.800
thank you guys. As of the
recording of this, and we're only recording

1553
01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:42.920
this like a day or two before
it airs, we were the number twenty

1554
01:52:43.239 --> 01:52:48.640
six drama podcast in America on iTunes, and one of our episodes, Vampire

1555
01:52:48.760 --> 01:52:54.720
Night, that published that week was
the number one oh one fiction podcast just

1556
01:52:54.800 --> 01:52:58.920
that episode. Yes, that's crazy. So thank you all so much for

1557
01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:01.239
listening to the show, for enjoying
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1558
01:53:01.520 --> 01:53:05.560
We've tried all kinds of new things
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1559
01:53:05.680 --> 01:53:11.039
Spooky, terrifying, and true,
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1560
01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:13.439
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I'm like, I hope this isn't going

1561
01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:16.199
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1562
01:53:16.279 --> 01:53:19.920
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1567
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1568
01:53:39.920 --> 01:53:44.680
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1569
01:53:44.720 --> 01:53:46.159
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1574
01:54:01.840 --> 01:54:08.119
my undead appreciation. So I see
what you did there. I don't know.

1575
01:54:08.359 --> 01:54:10.560
I don't even know. Why are
you picking on me? Okay?

1576
01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:17.840
All right, so well we're gonna
get out of here. Unless there's anything

1577
01:54:17.840 --> 01:54:21.640
else you want to mention. Rach, no, just watch Murder Party please

1578
01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:26.279
for your own sake. She's damn
right. So thank you so much for

1579
01:54:26.319 --> 01:54:29.079
listening to Cutting Deep into Horror.
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1580
01:54:29.199 --> 01:54:31.359
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1581
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1585
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1586
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1587
01:54:54.399 --> 01:54:59.279
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1588
01:54:59.560 --> 01:55:01.199
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1589
01:55:01.239 --> 01:55:03.680
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1590
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1591
01:55:08.479 --> 01:55:12.800
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1592
01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:15.439
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