May 1, 2026

Cutting Deep into Horror | One Cut of the Dead (2017): Japan’s Genius Zombie Horror Comedy, Filmmaking Chaos & Cult Movie Heart

Cutting Deep into Horror | One Cut of the Dead (2017): Japan’s Genius Zombie Horror Comedy, Filmmaking Chaos & Cult Movie Heart
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What starts as a scrappy Japanese zombie movie quickly becomes one of the most inventive, hilarious, and unexpectedly heartfelt horror-comedies of the last decade.

This week on Cutting Deep into Horror, Henrique Couto & Rachael Redolfi dive into One Cut of the Dead (2017), Shinichiro Ueda’s brilliant cult favorite about zombies, chaos, low-budget filmmaking, and the beautiful disaster of trying to make art when everything is falling apart.

At first glance, One Cut of the Dead looks like a strange, messy, low-budget zombie movie. But stick with it, because this is a film that rewards patience in a huge way. What unfolds is a clever, funny, deeply affectionate tribute to filmmakers, actors, crew members, and anyone who has ever tried to pull off something impossible with no time, no money, and way too much pressure.

Henrique and Rachael talk about what makes the movie’s structure so special, how it balances horror and comedy, why the film hits especially hard for anyone who has worked behind the camera, and how its chaotic energy turns into something genuinely joyful.

Inside this episode:

  • Why One Cut of the Dead is best experienced knowing as little as possible
  • How the movie transforms from zombie weirdness into filmmaking genius
  • The joy, stress, and absurdity of independent film production
  • Why the second half completely recontextualizes the first
  • How Shinichiro Ueda turns a tiny movie into a massive crowd-pleaser
  • Why this modern Japanese horror-comedy became such a beloved cult classic
If you love zombie movies, Japanese horror, horror-comedy, cult films, or stories about the madness of making movies, this episode is for you.

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Boy, it sure is scary out here, isn't it.

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Yeah? I mean it's really dark and.

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Like this scary night outside of this abandoned old factory

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where all those orphans were turned into cat food.

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Yeah, how'd you find this place? Anyway?

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Oh? My friend is a real estate agent and also insane? Okay,

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yeah wow. And the stars are even out, which I

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guess Actually, isn't that weird for nighttime?

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Yeah? Now what's that over there? Though?

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Oh? Is that? Oh my, it's nothing?

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Oh okay, boy, it kind of looks like something though.

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That's what I thought too. Sure would be awful if

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while we're standing out here just talking about unscripted things,

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some zombie cat orphans were to come and attack us.

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Sure would be awful.

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I don't what are you yelling to?

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Sure would be terrible. I mean, do you disagree it

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would be awful? If the zombie's queue to attack us

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was now, would be would be terrifying?

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Yeah, that would be really scary. You look like you're

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kind of waiting for something.

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Why does anybody ever make a fucking movie?

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This podcast is about why horror scares us, what deep

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dark secrets scary cinema shines a light on. The discussions

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are frank and involve conversations about abuse, trauma, and mental health.

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There are also spoilers, so keep that in mind too. Now,

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sharpen your machetes and strap raisers, because this is cutting

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Deep into horror.

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Welcome back, my spookies to Cutting Deep into Horror. I'm,

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of course, your host Enrique Kuto here with my co

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host Rachel Ridolfi. Rachel, how are you.

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I'm doing good?

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Yeah, yeah, that's great.

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Yeah, especially better than I was yesterday.

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Yeah, and most of the day before that. Yeah. Wow. Yeah,

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we're recording this. We usually try to do Cutting Deep

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episodes early ish, even like five days early, six days early.

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It just, you know, it makes things cushioned from chaos.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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So on Monday when we were supposed to record this,

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I was having a rough day. No, I know, that

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was before the rough day. I was just I was

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just in a good mood, and I felt like because

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of how much high stress has been going.

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On, because you've been traveling the past two weekends.

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Yeah, yeah, I've been out of town and it's a

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lot to run the filmmaking side of my business and

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then also keep the podcast going. It can be a

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bit of a bear. It reminds me a lot of

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when I had a day job and was doing this stuff,

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you know, because there's stuff you have to do every

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single week no matter what. It's a lot more focused.

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But there are a lot of positives to that. So

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I'm not here to to bitch and moan about all

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the good problems to have I have. But so I

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was like, oh, we'll just push it off because like,

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no big deal. And then on when wait, when was

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the power? Wow? No, that was was that Monday? The power?

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That was Monday?

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Yeah? That was yeah, that was because you were like, well,

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well because we all, yeah we only had like half power, right.

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That was yeah for like twelve hours? Yeah yeah.

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And then and then wait to.

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Bury the lead. I mean my point was, so we

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were hanging out Monday and we watched The Fog, which

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you had never seen John Carpenter's The Fog, and you

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really enjoyed it. And there was a huge thunderstorm up outside,

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so we had the windows open and we were like

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letting in like some of the ambience. Then you go

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to bed, and I'm like, I'm gonna keep, you know,

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watching scary movies a little longer. And whatever. And as

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I'm sitting there watching a movie, the wind starts pushing

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so hard through the screens of the windows that I'm like,

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uh oh, I got to close these because like stuff

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was getting knocked over. So I was like, that's not good,

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you know. So I'm closing windows, and then I go

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to the bathroom and like the lights are kind of

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like like they're going in and out a little bit,

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and I'm like, oh man, this is a bad storm.

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the power starts going kaka cucko, and the power cuts

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out and then comes back on, and then it cuts

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out again, and eventually it settles on there only being

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half the electricity, which I had never experienced before. I

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was very worried that my home's power was messed up,

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that I was gonna have to get a new breaker

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box or have the place rewired, or something turns out.

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It's so funny because I tell people this, they either

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go what or they go, yeah, the leg is out,

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like it's one or the other. So most houses have

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two two hundred and forty vault legs that go to

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your power box, right, And that's for safety and stuff,

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and because every house, you know, if a house has

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stood for a long time, like this house hasn't been

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here that long, but it was built early in the

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late fifties, you know, over the years people have rewired

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and changed wiring and stuff, so you can't really predict

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like what is connected to what. But basically we had

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no HVAC and the garage for some reason was pulled out,

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and then the ceiling fixtures in the dining room in

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the dining room and kitchen were also just out, and

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all of the outlets to that side of the wall. Yeah,

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But then the other side of the living room, all

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of those outlets worked, yeah, which was really weird. Also

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really scary because when the power finally died on the

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half of the house, I was watching a scary movie

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and a scene was happening where the music was like

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hitting the power cuts, but the projector is plugged into

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the wall behind me. Everything else is in the wall

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in front of me, which didn't lose power, So the

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projector cuts out, like what the and then the loud

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music hits because it was still playing while all this

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chaos is happening. You're asleep, no problem o. Until the

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power started fluctuating so bad that it was activating and

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deactivating the security system over and over again. Yeah, which

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when a security system goes off, you know you punch

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in the code and then it shuts off. Well, you

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can't do that if it's perpetually playing the startup chime.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. It was just really loud and scary.

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Yeah. And it would, yeah, it would stop for like

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a second when the power would like.

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Oh that's adorable. It would stop for four or five

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minutes and then start again, just long enough for you

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to start to feel like okay and bed again. Because

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after the second time, I came to you and I

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was just like, you may want to just be up

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for a little while because it is not going to

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be I can't tell you what's going to happen. So

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you just sat up with me. And it was a

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little scary, it was.

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And again we watched, we watched like the smart bulbs

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all like flickering like that.

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That was nuts. Yeah. So because smart bulbs, you know,

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they're a little computer. They don't just flip on and off,

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you know, there's always like a delay. Yeah, you know,

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when you flip the switch, it comes on. Since the

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power was going out, we had these tree lights with

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smart bulbs all through them. They're all all the bulbs

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are cutting on and off in different intervals. It looked

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like a cheesy haunted house like effect. It was really

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it was really nuts. And it was happening on the

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fixtures behind us too.

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Yeah, it was really those were the same bulbs.

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It was really weird and yeah, definitely freaky. So then

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the next day, get up. We still have half the power.

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Yeah, and and and it was miraculously like the half

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that mattered because you were able to sleep with your

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seapap you you still had like your office.

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Yeah, basically all the bedrooms had power. It was just

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like a and the kitchen still had power.

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Yeah except one yeah, one half of Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah, it was really weird. I mean, so more

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than half the house. But I mean, but of course,

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from an electrical standpoint, the HVAC is like half of

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the house because that's you know, it pulls two hundred

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and twenty volts blah blah blah blah blah. So yeah,

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it was like it was like it sucked because we

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didn't have any heat or cooling, but it was actually

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not hot outside. So I was like, oh, I guess

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I'll just work. I just don't have any HVAC. But

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on the plus side, you know, I don't have to

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worry about the sound of the HVAC in the recordings.

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But I had said something that everybody thought was so

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not not real. I had told Michelle and I had

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told my mom about it, and of course Michelle, being

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a home inspectory, she was like, oh, one of the

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legs went out.

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Yeah.

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My mom was like, you might want to call her

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electrician and have them take a look at it, you know,

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like what if it's you know, I was like, Mom,

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I think, oh yeah, because we found out our neighbors

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had half power too, and I was like, oh, thank goodness,

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we're gonna be okay. Apparently it was like our whole block.

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So I mean, just having that issue because there were

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I think the grand total is fifty five thousand people

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without power that morning anyway, so in the Dayton metropolitan

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Area or whatever it's called. So but I had said, like,

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I'm working in everything, but I'm nervous that when they

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fixed this, at some point it's gonna fully go out

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and Michelle was like, I don't think so come three pm,

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the power fully goes out and it wouldn't have been

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that big a deal. But I'm in a crunch right

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now because I'm naturally going out of town again, so

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I needed like, yeah, it just it just became a

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stress monster. And then it's like, you don't know how

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long the power's gonna be out. They keep telling you

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like soon, and then it ends up. It ended up

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being a little over twenty four hours the end of

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being like twenty nine hours of full power outage. Yeah,

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so I'm just trying to, like, you know, keep the

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food good in the fridge. I've got like a battery bank,

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but of course I never have enough power, So I

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ended up. I ended up on Tuesday night, after going

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to see the Michael Jackson movie, which was really good,

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I come home and I'm like, I have the podcast. Literally,

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I was so lucky. Like the Weekly Spooky Show is

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the most production intensive podcast I do. The main show

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was done, but the thing at the beginning where I

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introduce it and talk a little bit, that's I do

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that last as its own thing, So I had to

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I had to. I finally decided to take one of

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my power banks and just hook it into my computer setup.

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So I'm sitting in my office and I even said

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it on the episode, like I kind of evented a

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little bit, but like I'm sitting there with a lantern

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lighting me, but my computer's just on, which felt really weird,

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and no internet and the hotspot internet the five G

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on our phones was crap because everybody in that area

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was using it.

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Yeah, so I.

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Had to record it, output it the entire time, looking

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at the battery bank, trying to make sure I have

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enough power, and then I kept trying to use a

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hotspot to upload. It wouldn't work. It wouldn't work. So

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finally I just got in my car and drove. I

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was gonna go to my mother's house and just parking

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five G was super duper fast, so everything uploaded like

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instantly from my laptop. So I typed up the show

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notes and everything in the parking lot of the speedway

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near US, got it all scheduled, came home and it

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it's just like a little intense to have to like

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get it ready in time. But we love you guys,

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so that's why we we do this. Maybe, but we

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hour battery for like four hours? Because anybody's wondering. So yeah,

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I bought a second one so if this ever happens again,

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I can confidently run my computer setup for like seven

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hours seven hours. And but the refrigerator is another story.

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freezer survived well.

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hours on battery, and then ran to the cigar lounge

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and charged, and they brought it back and ran it

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for another seven hours and then thank goodness, the power

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recording this in here because luckily this setup we're using here,

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I hope this isn't like painfully boring, but like it's

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not incredibly involved. I mean, it's two microphone os, roadcaster,

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running all this off batteries would be nothing. It wouldn't

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take much power at all. So I was prepared for

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us to have to record this by lantern Light, and

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in hindsight, recording the one podcast by lantern Light was

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so like sweet spooky vibes. So I almost wish we

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were in here, like all just a lantern.

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It's not the same fake it. It has to be.

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It has to be being done to us so that

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we're persevering. That's what makes it fun. Okay, you're the

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one who likes camping. I do. But luckily it wasn't

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hot out. That's that's really the TLDR is. If it

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had been hot, it would have been miserable. Yeah, but

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it was like sixty degrees. So we just opened the

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windows and let the house be whatever it was gonna be.

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Like I came home at one point and like, all

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the neighbors and you were convened in the backyard.

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I'm like, well, ran out of things to do, so

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I heard them talk, and I wanted to see what

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how everybody was doing. Yeah, so I got on my

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shoes and went outside because because the windows were open,

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so I heard them talking. Yeah, because I was in

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the middle of like packing a pipe and being angry.

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So I was like this, quiet Night's glps, Quiet Night's tobacco.

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our neighbors are all really nice, Socky, We're lucky on

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that one. So anyway, tonight's film is from twenty seventeen,

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I believe. Yeah, twenty seventeen's one cut of the Dead,

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and it's a Japanese film. I almost tried to pronounce

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the Japanese title, but I'm gonna just I'm just gonna

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spare that for everybody. So, but it's it's a phenomenal film,

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a strange film, a very different kind of movie, and

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a different kind of film for the show too. But

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I trusted Rachel's judgment on this, and she knows I'm

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a massive lover of One Cut of the Dead.

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Well, when you first saw it, like you were raving

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to me, Yeah, exactly how good it was. And kind

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of my thought, and this is this is jumping ahead

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a little bit, but kind of my thought was, while

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One Cut of the Dead is much more like a

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horror comedy, the filmmaking aspects of it, if you are

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a filmmaker that will evoke true terror.

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Well, and what you're really trying to get at is

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that this will be the laziest episode you ever have

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to do, because you can just be like camera batteries,

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Am I right? And then I'll talk for forty five minutes,

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you'll catch a nap, you'll play with the cat, you'll

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do whatever you're doing.

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Yeah, this this episode pretty much just wrote itself.

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It's great, it makes its own gravy. Yeah, But if

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you want to watch One Cut of the Dead, which

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I highly recommend you do before we before you listen

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to us talk about it all the way through. It's

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available on Shutter with the subscription or on AMC Plus

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with a subscription you can get if you've never been

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a member of those before, you can get a free

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trial to check out one cut of the Dead. That

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is the best way to see it, because there is

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a kind of a big twist, but I don't think

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it would ruin the movie to know what the twist is.

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And we'll be bashing that twist into little pieces as

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soon as we get back from this break. So, but

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that's one cut of the Dead. You should watch it,

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and especially I know some of the folks who listen

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they're a little bit more sensitive to horror films for

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whatever reason. I'm, you know, as a filmmaker turned horror

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like scary story, true crime podcaster. I've been very surprised

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to see that a lot of the people there's a

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lot of lack of overlap. I mean a lot of

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people do like both horror movies and scary stories. Some

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people are like, I just listen to scary stories, like

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horror movies really bother me or scare me or or whatever.

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I totally get it. So some people they tell us, like,

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you know, West, I listen and I like that. You

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break the movie down because I'm not gonna watch it,

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you know, or it'll tell me maybe I should watch it. Yeah,

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with this one, you could just watch it. It's mostly

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a comedy. It's really fun and it zooms right by.

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It's very very good. But we're gonna take a quick

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break and when we get back, we'll get into the weeds.

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On one cut of the Dead. One cut of the Dead,

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directed by Shinichiro yuaa Ua. I think it's how you say,

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I think I know it's shin Ichirochiro. I know that

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because of Godzilla movies. Thierro was a character in Godzilla's Revenge.

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I like how I'm like, I know it from Godzilla,

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one of the worst ones that everybody don't doesn't like

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because it's a clip show with a with a mina

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baby Godzilla that has a Barney the Purple Dinosaur voice.

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But you love all Godzilla, I do, how much you love?

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That was my childhood favorite. I've ever shown you god'szill

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Is Revenge.

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Ah, I don't think you.

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Oh man, maybe we should watch that tonight. We Gotta

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we Got man, It's it's dumb. I love it so much.

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I used to go to sleep every night watching it

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until I was like ten. I'm serious, Like, oh, the

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theme song is awesome too, because it's jazz bad Danna. Now,

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the reason I'm talking about this is not, uh, for

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no reason, although I you know, I have my moments,

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It's because I have as silly as it can be

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to say, I've actually had an appreciation of Japanese cinema

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my entire life because of Godzilla movies.

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And while you know, there's you could say a lot

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about Godzilla movies, you could say a lot about like, well,

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they're cheesy and they and a lot of them were

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Americanized and blah blah blah. They were a cultural touchstone

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for Japan. They they made Japanese cinema a national conversation.

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That was the first thing. Yeah, and I love what

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Japanese filmmakers do with cinema. Because this may be a

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crazy take, but cinema is an American invention. And some

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people don't like you saying that, but I mean that literally.

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Thomas Edison invented it. He was an American. They invented it.

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In New Jersey basically give or take. So that's really

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what it comes down to, is like it's an American invention. Now.

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You know, the Europeans did all kinds of fascinating things

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making it more of an art form. You know, they

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kind of encouraged that movement that came in the fifties

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and sixties where people were looking into the non narrative

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aspects of cinema. I think that's all awesome, the poetic

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aspects of cinema as well. The Japanese I in my opinion,

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one of the reasons that their films are so interesting

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and don't go wrong. I mean there's some stinkers, there

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are some clunkers, and there's some ones that just don't

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work for me or whatever reason. Usually it's cultural or

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it's literally And this is a funny thing about foreign

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movie too. Like sometimes I've put on like a Japanese

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movie or what have you, and I'll be like, I'm

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not really getting this, Like this is not really doing

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it for me. And then I look into it more,

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I'm like, oh, this is for sixteen year old girls.

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I don't know. Like I just put on the I

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just heard there was this really good and sometimes that

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even that will transcend. But I mean I've watched ones

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where I was like, oh, this is literally not for me,

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this for Japanese children. Yeah, and I am not the audience,

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you know, so I'm not here to pick on it.

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But they've never been afraid of subversiveness, which is a

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really interesting thing because if you look at the way

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that the way cinema has been with Japan since the

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fall of the Japanese Empire, they've been really obviously tight

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knit with America and cinema was you know, started in

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America and kind of came over. Well, one thing that's

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been true of the Japanese culture for a very long

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time is they have always been movie fans, voracious consumers

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of films, and one of their superpowers, you know, for

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better or worse, because Japan, I mean, if you want

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to go through history of Japan has a lot of

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awful things you can bring up and stuff, but for

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better or worse, they've always had a strong sense of identity.

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They've always had a strong sense of what matters to them, right,

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and Godzilla was literally a story born from the atomic

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bomb being dropped on them. Yeah, they took that and

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made it Godzilla. They're still making Godzilla movies. I mean

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it's and Godzilla, unlike a lot of Japanese cinema, became everywhere,

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you know. And this was before like the martial arts

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boom where movies from all of Southeast Asia were becoming

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national concepts, before Bruce Lee kind of brought the East

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Asian concepts more. Godzilla was first the first times people

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were like mainstream people were watching dubbed movies. It was Godzilla.

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That's all I'm saying. So, but what I love about

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the Japanese film method is that mentality is that they

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they love movies, and they make movies that reference American

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films constantly, but their their ability to artfully shift it

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and change it is so great that it sometimes I

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have no idea. I remember I watched what was that

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movie I watched I can't think of the name right now,

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Dead or Alive, weird Japanese action horror ish movie. I'd

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never seen anything like it. And then I read an

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interview with the director and the director was like, I'm

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very inspired by Western films, the films of America, and

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I was like, okay, I thought that was the weirdest thing.

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And I had nothing as ever I've ever seen has

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been like that before, Like it's just funny how that

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you know that goes? And Joe Bob Briggs put it

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really well. He said that in a way, Japanese culture

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is like that has always been like that, because like

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how do you make soy sauce? You bury soybeans and

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ferment them. And he said, in a way they like

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ferment concepts and then put the new twist where it's

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like this is a totally different flavor and it's great.

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And I do think that that's how Japanese cinema can work.

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And one Cut of the Dead is not just a

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Japanese horror movie. It's a Japanese horror movie about being

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a filmmaker, about making a Japanese horror movie. And that's

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where I think it really gets to set itself apart

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from everything else you could ever see in that I

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guess subgenre. I'm sure there are other Japanese movies about

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making movies, but I've not seen many of them personally.

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So that's what makes this movie really special. The other

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thing that makes it really special is it is a

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super low budget movie. The estimates are between twenty five

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thousand dollars us and much much less. Damn, I would

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not be surprised if it was much much less. Yeah,

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but it works. They use that punk rock mentality, they

459
00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:06.599
use that wild energy and that rough around the edges

460
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:09.440
andess to tell the story, and that's all you need,

461
00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:12.279
you know, I mean to tell a great story. So

462
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:15.759
I yeah, I could rave about one Cut of the

463
00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:19.000
Dead forever. I just wanted to kind of set that

464
00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:21.319
up because we don't do a lot of so far,

465
00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:23.880
we haven't done a lot of like subtitled films. I mean,

466
00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:26.119
there's a dub version. I haven't watched it, but like there,

467
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:27.640
we haven't done a lot of subtitle films, a lot

468
00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.039
of foreign movies. So I wanted to mention, like, this

469
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:33.240
is a really special one, like a really special one,

470
00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:36.759
and when we get back, we'll actually start talking specifically

471
00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:52.720
about one Cut of the Dead right after this. So

472
00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:54.519
the first time I watched One Cut of the Dead

473
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.960
was when Joe Bob Briggs showed it on the last

474
00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:00.519
drive in and he kind of build it up away.

475
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:02.960
I just did, actually, now they think about it, you

476
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:04.559
got me amped to watch it, and then I was

477
00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:07.599
really into it, and I'm glad I was you were you?

478
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:09.279
You weren't there when it was on Joebob were you?

479
00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:12.319
No? No, you showed it to me later, Okay, yeah, yeah.

480
00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:14.200
So what did you think when I made you sit down?

481
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:17.440
I mean, because you've always liked foreign movies, oh yeah

482
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:19.960
and stuff, so it wasn't like way outside your comfort

483
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:20.640
zone or anything.

484
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:26.279
Well, yeah, it was a really easy sell for me

485
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:28.480
because the moment you were like, oh, yeah, it's a

486
00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:33.960
Japanese found footage, I was like, okay, I'm there. And

487
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:38.480
the first time I watched it, I was immediately blown

488
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:43.759
away by the pacing and then just how much heart

489
00:25:43.960 --> 00:25:49.519
the film has because you know, there's a few scares,

490
00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:55.359
but again mostly it's a comedy and the the laughs

491
00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:58.799
are all really good. It doesn't ever feel like there's

492
00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:04.440
anything that's played for like cheap laughs, and the emotion

493
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:07.680
behind it, you know, just the heart of and the

494
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.799
I guess the ethos of it is really really touching

495
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:18.200
for anyone who is creative, but especially for filmmakers. And

496
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:21.000
I remember just like when it when it got to

497
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:23.839
the like the last scene, you and I were like

498
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:27.880
just openly crying together, like I was. I don't know.

499
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:30.519
About you, but I was every time I watch it,

500
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.480
I cry at the ending. I did do though, yeah

501
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:35.880
you just copy me, but I get it.

502
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:36.880
It just looks so good.

503
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:41.440
But no, it is. It's a movie that speaks to creatives,

504
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.359
but it also speaks to just the human element of

505
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:47.880
it all. Yeah, for lack of a better term, it

506
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:51.599
really is because it's it's a film where okay, so

507
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:54.839
so basically what one Cut of the Dead is is

508
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:57.880
for about what twenty minutes, twenty five minutes, thirty.

509
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.519
Minutes, Yeah, the first I would say eighteen to twenty minute, yeah.

510
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:02.480
Something like that. It is a the reason it is

511
00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:04.920
called one cut of the Dead. It is a single

512
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:10.920
shot horror short film like zombie movie, where the camera

513
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:14.960
never cuts. It just kind of follows the action. And

514
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:20.119
it's not horrible. It has its moments that are kind

515
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:24.480
of odd, and it's it's fine, and it has a

516
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:27.839
pretty solid ending, and you know, it's got some good action,

517
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:32.960
but mostly it rides high on that concept being one

518
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:37.519
one camera shot never cutting away, which is hard, very

519
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.559
hard to do and in general, especially when you're not

520
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.160
hiding any cuts, which they didn't. It was legitimately all

521
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:46.680
in one go. But when it ends, I mean, it's

522
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:48.279
I mean, I don't feel like we need to run

523
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.680
it down super intensely, but I mean, like a girl

524
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:54.839
is fighting off a zombie guy and then and then

525
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:58.559
we realize that it's a movie. Yes, some ofvie within

526
00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:01.400
a movie within a movie. Yeah, it's the turd ducan

527
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:05.599
of movies in that way. So then they're like killing

528
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:10.200
time and then real zombies invade. That's basically the plot

529
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:14.799
when it ends, with all the drama and the weirdness

530
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.640
and the fun creepy stuff. When it ends, the credits

531
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:23.559
roll and then the movie actually starts, and at film

532
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:25.759
festivals people that were getting up and starting to leave

533
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:30.200
because they thought the film was over. But to me,

534
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.880
what the real film is is the story of making

535
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:38.119
that film, which is fascinating for a lot of reasons.

536
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:42.839
And presenting it the way they did is just totally

537
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:44.839
unheard of to just present it and then be like,

538
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:46.440
here's how it was made. But it's not how it

539
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:50.079
was made. It's a fictionalized version of how it was made.

540
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:52.599
This is all movie. This is not none of this

541
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.720
is documentary. Yeah, and the found footage element is nowhere

542
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.359
once they once that part ends, weird, it's a weird movie.

543
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:04.519
It crosses so many genres and bends all of them.

544
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:07.640
It's great. I mean, I really love that about it.

545
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:13.599
So we meet our main character and his name is

546
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:17.160
oh oh yeah, his real name is the character's name,

547
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:26.559
hake Yuki Higashi Higurashi, Yeah, Higashi Higarashi, who is really

548
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:31.640
perfect in the role, and he is filming a commercial.

549
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:34.200
That's kind of how we meet him. He's filming a

550
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.319
commercial of some sort. And Japanese commercials are I was

551
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.440
gonna say a little. They're very different, not just well

552
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:42.559
they do. They don't just do commercially. They do weird

553
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.759
interstitials and things weird by our standards, like because what

554
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.000
they're filming is like an old man in a wheelchair crying,

555
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.400
and the commercials just like voiceover about life and that's

556
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:54.000
gonna be on TV. Like they do different than what

557
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:56.079
we do. Yeah, you know, as to where we would

558
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.079
have Paris Hilt needing a cheeseburger, you know, they do that,

559
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:02.640
so you know, which is more artistic. It's up for debate.

560
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:06.480
But uh but no. So we meet him and we

561
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:08.640
realize that he is a you know, a small time

562
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:13.359
filmmaker who does commercials. He does whatever he's called upon

563
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:14.079
to do.

564
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.200
Yeah, commercial like commercials and dramas and stuff.

565
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.799
Yeah, drama, which is that's that's the thank you, that's

566
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.440
the thing. So they call dramas are just short films

567
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.200
is what they call them, basically. Yeah, And and they

568
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.519
actually have like places to put short films other than

569
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:29.839
YouTube because they air them on television a lot of stuff.

570
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:34.200
So he's doing small stuff here and there, and he

571
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.759
gets approached by an old buddy who's a producer because

572
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:41.920
they're launching the Zombie Channel in Japan and they want

573
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:46.759
him to make a drama for it, and he's excited.

574
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:49.200
He's like, oh, yeah, that'd be great. What was that

575
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:50.759
line he says, like I am.

576
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:55.119
He says, I'm fast, cheap and average.

577
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:57.839
An average, average, an average, which I love because when

578
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.079
he meets the big wig at the Zombie Channel, all

579
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.640
let's say say I'm fast, cheap and average. And I

580
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.400
love that because well number one, because that's so Japanese,

581
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:11.920
Like Japanese culture is not big on bragging anyhow, mm hmm,

582
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:15.359
but like, I just love that. You you start to

583
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:17.720
really see that this guy, he is a blue collar guy.

584
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.200
He makes movies because he loves making movies, but also

585
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.160
because he loves feeding his family. Yeah, and I would

586
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:26.640
say that that they're even. How much he loves feeding

587
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.839
his family, how much he loves making movies is completely even. Yeah,

588
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:33.599
he would never sacrifice you know, his family eating for

589
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:38.200
a movie. You know. So he's told basically that they

590
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.680
want this drama to be special because it's going to

591
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:46.279
be one continuous take shown live.

592
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:50.799
Yeah, a live, live broadcast. And that was when when

593
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:55.359
we first watched it, when the producer said, oh, yeah,

594
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.480
so we want to have this drama. It's going to

595
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:01.039
be done all in one take, one cut.

596
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:04.680
One cut. You know, they don't have words that end

597
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.839
on consonant sound yea, so like yeah, so like they

598
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:10.920
add a you or an O or a or whatever

599
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:11.319
to it.

600
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.400
But when they when they said, okay, so it's all

601
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:16.680
gonna be one take and then it's gonna be live

602
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:22.039
broadcast as a as a like filmmaker. The first time

603
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:26.119
I watched that, my heart like sank and I felt

604
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:30.039
ice run in my veins. I was like, no fucking way.

605
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:33.079
And Takayuki thinks he's he's like that's really funny, and

606
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:34.640
they're like, no, that's what we want to do. And

607
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:38.119
he's like, uh, yeah.

608
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.480
And what what's great though, is like when he goes

609
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:43.200
back to talk to his family about it, they're all

610
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.720
he's like explaining. He's like, yeah, they came to me

611
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:48.880
because like every other director, they came to passed it

612
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:52.640
up because it's such an insane idea. And his wife's like, oh, yeah,

613
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.279
so you told them that you're passing You tell.

614
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:57.680
Them yes, because you never tell anyone no. That's what

615
00:32:57.759 --> 00:32:59.279
she said. Yeah, you never tell anyone no.

616
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.240
He's like, yeah, so I picked it up.

617
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:04.359
Well, look in America, we have another we have a

618
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:06.839
phrase for that. It's called the only thing I turned

619
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:12.400
down is my caller. I've heard that from multiple people

620
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:17.440
in the film business, actors and directors. And Uh, we're

621
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:19.359
going to take a quick break and we'll dive into

622
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:21.640
his family a little bit, which I feel really kind

623
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.319
of elevates everything right after this.

624
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:41.119
So we we we meet his wife, uh, and then

625
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:46.559
we are introduced to his daughter, and she is also

626
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:54.640
a budding, aspiring filmmaker, but she's a bit more, a

627
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:58.119
bit more intense than her dad. And I love and

628
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:06.240
more perfectionists artiste. Yeah, and I love the juxtaposition of

629
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:13.679
meeting them both because when he's directing his drama commercial thing.

630
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:16.840
He's like instantly, we've got to get this take, so

631
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:19.639
get out the tear drops for the actor and use

632
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:24.079
the tear drops. But his daughter, yeah, like eye drops.

633
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:28.000
So but his daughter, she's directing a commercial of her

634
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:34.679
own or like the makeup, and she's trying to get

635
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:39.599
this little like six year old girl to just cry,

636
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.159
to actually cry, and she's like sitting there like, no,

637
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.760
you've got to reach into yourself and like don't you

638
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.920
want to prove like what kind of a performer you are?

639
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:50.559
And the mom's even like, uh, the director said, it's

640
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:53.119
okay for us to use the eye drops. She's like, no,

641
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:59.159
we can't sacrifice our vision. So it's really fun to see,

642
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.679
like you kind of get the feeling that he sees

643
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:06.239
himself in her very much. But he's trying to kind

644
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:09.000
of show her the way of like you don't you

645
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.599
don't have to be perfect all the time. Average is

646
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.559
sometimes good because like look at me, look at like

647
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.760
the jobs that I'm getting, you know, doing doing this, and.

648
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:21.679
She kind of looks down on his work. Yeah, she really,

649
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.760
which I mean that's I mean, she's you know, she

650
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:28.039
has to be nineteen twenty years old maximum and it's

651
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.079
clear that she wants to, you know, differentiate herself from

652
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:33.880
her dad. And you know, of course, when you're young,

653
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:36.159
you have all the answers, and everybody who has all

654
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:39.800
the experience just doesn't know what you happen to know somehow.

655
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.400
So there's a lot of that in there too. And

656
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:51.559
I love that dichotomy because, like you, I cannot tell

657
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:53.960
you how hard it actually is to get a child

658
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:54.679
actor to cry.

659
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:58.079
Oh, I don't even want to think about it.

660
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.840
I mean, the most famos I'm a story I know

661
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.440
about getting a child actor to cry on command? Ish

662
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.800
command is on Nightmare on Elm Street or on not

663
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.079
nightmarre Elm Street. On the uh Wes Craven's New Nightmare

664
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.360
Night mam'n l Street Part seven, they had this young

665
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:18.320
kid playing Heather's son and he was supposed to cry.

666
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:19.719
There were a few times when he had to cry

667
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:22.639
and they had Wess had tried like all the normal things,

668
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.000
you know, to work it up and da da dah,

669
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.400
and it just wasn't working. And his dad came up

670
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:29.800
to him. He was like, so you need him to

671
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:31.800
cry because they he's been in a bunch of movies

672
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:33.239
a little kid. He's like, you need him to cry?

673
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.079
He's like yeah, He's like, well, how important is it

674
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:39.400
like that he cry? And he was like, well, it

675
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.400
would be really great if we had this one of it,

676
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:43.800
Like it would be really good for the film. And

677
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.280
he was like, okay, well I have a way. I

678
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:49.519
just don't like to do it very much. And he

679
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:52.800
was like okay. So they do the scene and right

680
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:55.559
before they roll, his dad just leans in and whispers

681
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:57.840
something into the into the kid's head, and the kids

682
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.320
pry six seven and then he walked way and the

683
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.599
kid just starts crying, and they film it and they

684
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:04.920
got it and they say cut. And afterward, when they

685
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.480
were relaxing between takes, he asks his dad. He's like,

686
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.880
what did you tell him? He was like, I told

687
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:13.960
him his mother just died.

688
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:17.000
What the fuck? Man?

689
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:19.599
And don't get me wrong, I don't think that's a

690
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:23.239
great thing to do. But what I'm saying is you

691
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:26.159
can't sit down with a seven year old and like

692
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:30.800
talk about like life's challenges and stuff to get tears up.

693
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:35.280
They life is too broad a Strokes. Life is hunger

694
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:38.400
or being full, life is life or death. There's just

695
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.679
the nuance. You haven't built nuance and yet, so like, yeah,

696
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:44.760
that would be about the only way, you know. But

697
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:47.400
I just love that He's like, I can do it,

698
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:49.159
but I don't like to do it very much, so

699
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:51.599
like we can only do it like once, and he

700
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.000
was like, okay, yeah, So anyway, that's what I think

701
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:55.480
of anytime I think about trying to get a child

702
00:37:55.559 --> 00:38:00.840
actor to cry. So yeah, so that, but my point

703
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:04.679
is so her trying to like she has no idea

704
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.719
how impossible of a task that was, but of course

705
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.679
because she's young and she's like, oh, I can do

706
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:12.039
it though.

707
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:13.239
Yeah.

708
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:17.400
And as a producer, a producer, who when I when

709
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.639
I do? When I produce for hire, when somebody just

710
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:24.800
pays me a day rate to produce. Literally, the first

711
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.320
time I got hired and I was being paid like

712
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.559
more money than I thought I was worth, I realized

713
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.280
about a day into it that they were literally paying

714
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:34.480
me for my experience. I mean they were literally paying

715
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:36.360
me to be there. Because I had been to so

716
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.599
many sets and I would see that stuff. I would

717
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:40.320
see somebody being like, oh we can you probably see

718
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:42.480
me do it on set. Somebody will be like, I'm

719
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:44.440
gonna do this I'd be like it'll you'll never get it,

720
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:47.159
like it'll take forever and it will never work. I've

721
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:49.239
done it, I've done it, like I've tried, like you

722
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.800
just can't. Don't even yeah, like don't waste your time,

723
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:56.079
just don't even fail. Just don't try that one. That's

724
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:58.800
that's what That's what I imagine it was like, because

725
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:02.519
she of course gets like in the director's face about it,

726
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:04.639
like you know, saying like this should be good, and

727
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:06.679
the mother gets bad, so she's about to take her

728
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.960
kid away. And that's when her dad, who's just like

729
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.639
he was spying on her because because his wife it

730
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:14.400
said like are you off today? He's like yeah. She

731
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.519
was like, well then you need to go like keep

732
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:18.360
an eye on her. And it's great too because the

733
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:20.280
way she says, she's like, uh, you know, we need

734
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:21.599
to keep an eye on who she's I think she

735
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:24.559
says like who she's out with or whatever. You think

736
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:29.239
that she's referring to like friends, yeah, like she's partying

737
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:31.559
or no I met like the cruise. She works on

738
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:34.000
for these like TV dramas and commercials and stuff, which

739
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:36.960
is extra funny. But her dad tries to smooth it over.

740
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.960
Yeah, he apologizes immediately and bows and you know, like.

741
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:43.800
And it's great because that's the other thing is like

742
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:50.239
her dad having done this job being cheap, you know, cheap,

743
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.639
what was it? What was the cheap fast fast, cheap fast,

744
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.960
And average is he's good at talking to people. He's

745
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:59.320
good at smoothing things over and keeping the production going.

746
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:03.119
You know. That's and that is your your biggest power

747
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:05.840
when you're a director. In my opinion, your job is

748
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.960
to make the day oh yeah, oh yeah, that is

749
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:11.000
your entire job. And if you can't do that, you're

750
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:13.840
not doing your job, you know, because people will be like, oh, well,

751
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:15.599
you know, my job is to get like the best film. Mccannt, like,

752
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:18.599
that's not your job. No, the moment that every that

753
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:22.199
their schedule's made. Your job is to make the schedule work. Yeah,

754
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.880
every day. That is your job. And if you don't

755
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:29.000
do that, there will be no movie period. So I

756
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:30.400
really like that, though, he like pulls her way and

757
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:32.079
he's trying to tell her like, you know, sometimes average

758
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:36.719
is okay, and she's just like, no, it's not. And yeah,

759
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.000
and it pays off. Everything pays off so beautifully in

760
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:39.440
this It.

761
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:42.400
Really does though, So yeah please. Oh well, I was

762
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:46.480
just gonna say, like, this second act is like setting

763
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.840
up the dominoes so that the third act you can

764
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.199
watch them all topple down.

765
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.920
Basically, I mean that's good storytelling. Yeah, yeah, in general,

766
00:40:57.480 --> 00:40:59.960
but they do, they do, They do a great job

767
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:03.480
with it. And now we find out he's one hundred

768
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:08.280
percent in to make this zombie drama live, which means

769
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:12.719
an immense amount of rehearsal, an immense amount of careful casting,

770
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:19.199
and of course oversight of the executives of this TV

771
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:21.880
channel because his buddy is the producer. But of course

772
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.639
he answers to the executives, which is mostly played by

773
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:26.920
that one lady who I can't I don't know. I

774
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:29.280
don't know her name, but she she's like in a

775
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:34.480
million great Japanese movies. I think that might be her. Yeah,

776
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:39.039
but she's great as the as the as the Big

777
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:42.400
Big way, because she's like interested until she's not and

778
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:44.320
then takes credit like that even takes credit, not in

779
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:46.119
a negative way. She just kind of like looks up

780
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:48.000
and goes, oh, yes, that's great, like we did it,

781
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:50.079
you know, no no knowledge at all.

782
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.760
I especially love her line at the end. It's like, look,

783
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:55.199
we pulled it off and nothing went wrong.

784
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:58.760
Oh my godness. But that's and that There's so much

785
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:00.280
I could say about that, But we're gonn to take

786
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.960
a quick break and when we get back, we'll move

787
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:21.559
into the pre production stage right after this. So our

788
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:26.320
hero Taka Yuki is and I want to mention because

789
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:28.199
we can't go through all of it, but there's a

790
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:31.360
lot of elements of the film that we watch at

791
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.920
the beginning that you start to notice little things like

792
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:35.800
one of the characters was played by the woman who

793
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:38.440
we see as his wife. He's playing the director in

794
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:42.039
the movie that we watch. All of that is worth mentioning,

795
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:44.320
but you really catch it when you're watching the film.

796
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:49.679
But now taka Yuki has written his script and we've

797
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:53.159
noticed that his wife has read it, and we find

798
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:56.000
out that his wife reads all of his scripts like

799
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:58.760
a lot. And well, later on we find out she

800
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:02.079
was an actress for a while and for multiple reasons.

801
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:04.559
I also like that the argue the reason when when

802
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:06.599
we get into it, like the reason she stopped being

803
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.039
an actress wasn't to be a mother, it was it

804
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.039
was other more personal, weird reasons, which I love that

805
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:16.119
I loved it because because when we see her mom,

806
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.519
their mom, she's a bit intense, but she's also like

807
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:22.599
she's just really into hobbies because their daughter's grown, so

808
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:23.840
she doesn't have as much to do.

809
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:27.119
Yeah, because that's that's one of the things. Something that

810
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.679
pays off is, you know, in the in the first act,

811
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:37.119
the you know found footage live broadcast, she does some

812
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:42.360
like self defense tricks. Yeah boom boom, but she does

813
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.239
she does some self defense tricks. So like in this

814
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.639
second act she's constantly watching her self defense videos and

815
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:53.079
like practicing her self defense and she's like really getting

816
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.800
into it. So I just love how that pays off.

817
00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:01.199
Oh yeah, but yeah and and uh, her daughter has

818
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:04.760
this great like ribbing moment when she catches mom reading

819
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:07.199
the script. She's like, oh, you're reading it again? Like

820
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:09.119
how many times has this now? And she's like, oh,

821
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:13.599
it's getting close to a hundred. And that's when she

822
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.719
starts talking like, oh, you should really consider getting back

823
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.280
into acting, and the mom's just like, no, I can't,

824
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.159
I can't. I can't get back to that part of

825
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:26.159
me anymore, Like I can't do it. And then we

826
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:30.400
start we start following the director as they're doing like

827
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:33.719
line reading or table readings, and like some of the

828
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.639
reversion the casting for the most part, which is fine

829
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:38.320
because yeah, you can only the movie can only be

830
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:38.760
so long.

831
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:42.039
But the group they've got together is really interesting. And

832
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.119
one of my favorite elements was the old man From

833
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.880
the first thing we see him filming the guy in

834
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:50.519
the wheelchair with the fake tears and all that. He's

835
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.719
there and what we start to realize is he's old

836
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:56.320
friends with the director and he's been in a ton

837
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.119
of his projects. He's also a bit of a drunk.

838
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:02.000
He has a little bit of a problem with drinking.

839
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.800
To stop shaking is what he says.

840
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.519
Oh, yeah, just to stop shaking. And it's funny because

841
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:10.320
it's like he just keeps an eye on it, like

842
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:12.360
he just because at one point when they get asak,

843
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:15.519
he just says, hide this until we're done, until we wrap, yeah,

844
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:16.960
which is which is great.

845
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:20.920
It's great, And I also like that there's one of

846
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.079
the guys as soon as like the first thing he

847
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:26.639
says when they start the table reading is he pulls

848
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:29.159
one of the PA's aside and he's like, oh, I've noticed,

849
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:31.920
like you didn't get me the special bottle of water

850
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.519
that I ask for. It's important, Like it's crucial that

851
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.360
you get this special bottle of water for me or else.

852
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:41.000
I'm gonna get like really bad Diaryeh, I get very

853
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:43.320
very sick. And he's like and furious. He doesn't just

854
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:46.000
say it like that. He's like, I sent an email. Yeah,

855
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:47.119
he keeps saying I sent.

856
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:49.519
An email, yeah, like I said. And I love that

857
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:54.440
because again, with our experience, you realize how easy it

858
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.639
is for something like that to get lost in the shuffle.

859
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.840
Just there's so much to do making a movie that

860
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:05.000
it is, it is, you know, sometimes difficult to keep

861
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:06.840
those small details in order.

862
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:08.920
Well, I think it's important to keep in mind that

863
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:11.159
when you pull a film together, all you're doing is

864
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:13.480
pulling a group of people together to do a thing.

865
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:19.480
Mm hm, So you're going to have a varied experience,

866
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:26.239
you know, dietary allergies, energy levels, I mean, like every

867
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:29.239
person is different. So that, to me, that was like

868
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:31.880
just a perfect example of like this guy has like

869
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:35.039
a medical thing and he's not even being a jerk

870
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:36.719
about it. I mean he's like, I sent an email.

871
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.400
I'm not springing this on you. I sent an email

872
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:41.840
about it, Like I didn't, you know, And he's the

873
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.719
boom operator. He's the sound guy. Well no, no, no, no,

874
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:47.800
he plays the sound guy. Yeah, sorry, it gets confusing.

875
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.880
He plays the sound guy in the movie. In the movie,

876
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.800
and but yeah, yeah, he's like trying to like get

877
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:56.400
that across. We also meet our leading lady, who it

878
00:46:56.480 --> 00:47:00.239
turns out is some kind of like teen idol acts

879
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:05.360
or turning actress who seems very passionate about acting. She's

880
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.079
definitely not just there to get on TV. At one point,

881
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:12.039
Shiva mentions that she wishes her agency would let her

882
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.320
do more adventurous things because there was something about vomit

883
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:16.599
or something. She was like, I would like to be

884
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:19.199
vomited on, you know, for the scene, but they won't

885
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:22.800
let me. Yeah, and because I, you know, my Japanese

886
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.840
is not great. I don't know if that was her

887
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.480
like capin to like you know, hide like you know,

888
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:33.039
oh I'm it's by agency, or if she meant it,

889
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:34.559
But I got the vibe as I watched it more

890
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:36.519
that she actually really wanted to be challenged.

891
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:37.960
Oh yeah, yeah.

892
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:41.039
So and then we meet our leading man, and he

893
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:43.960
is clearly a very talented actor, and he has the

894
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.280
ego to go along with it. He has a lot

895
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:48.760
of opinions.

896
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:54.119
Yeah, because he clearly knows everything there is to know

897
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:55.320
about making a movie.

898
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:57.360
Well, he doesn't have to know anything about many movie.

899
00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:59.440
He has to know everything about his character and the story.

900
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.880
That's that's where you're that's where you're a little off base.

901
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.480
And yeah, but the problem with the the actors that

902
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:10.559
always have an opinion isn't that their opinions aren't good

903
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:13.679
or interesting. It's that they're they just they want all

904
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:17.800
of your time. And the only thing that is a

905
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:22.039
premium when you're doing a production is time and money.

906
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.960
Money is also in short supply, but time is the

907
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:28.119
big one. And if they're every other minute, they're like,

908
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:29.519
I thought, I have a thought about this in this

909
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:32.599
it's just you're it's like you're killing the whole film,

910
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:36.800
because that's like the the that's the worst. That's the

911
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:40.159
first advice I give new directors is like, don't give

912
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:44.320
your actors too much time of your time, and especially

913
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:46.119
because they there's they you know, they aren't they're not

914
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:48.280
doing it on purpose, but they'll like you know, they'll

915
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:53.679
like they'll take you aside literally to just praise you great.

916
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:58.440
Shut up, like great, but we got work to do,

917
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:02.239
can we do? But they will, I mean, and it's

918
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:05.119
because they're excited or you know, because it doesn't always

919
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:08.159
have to be consciously self serving or anything. I mean,

920
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:10.960
it can legitimately be just that they're excited, they're happy

921
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:14.159
for the opportunity, and they appreciate you. Yeah, but they're

922
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:16.480
sitting there talking and talking and talking. It's like I

923
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:18.679
gotta make a movie, like you know, and you got

924
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:20.559
to do it too, Like we don't have time for this.

925
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.400
So yeah, I think my new thing is I'll just

926
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:25.800
tell people like if they want to praise me, like

927
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:27.880
all praise should be submitted in writing, and then I'll

928
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:32.960
walk away. But it really it's one of the first

929
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:37.559
films I produced with a first time director. I warned

930
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.280
him about that, and he almost and he fell into it.

931
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:40.760
I had to go get him and pull him away

932
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:42.400
from the actors who were all just going on about

933
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.119
the script is so great and I love this character

934
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.239
and I'm so excited to work with you. I'm not

935
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:48.840
saying they're lying about any of it, but none of

936
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:52.159
it is of value. Yeah, I mean, we're literally on set.

937
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:55.039
This was not a read through. This was not a rehearsal. Yeah,

938
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:57.000
this was we were filming a movie.

939
00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:59.679
Yeah, we got the cameras here that you're ready, And.

940
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:01.159
I'd worn him about the and I warned him about

941
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:03.800
actors showing up with like fifteen pairs of clothes. I

942
00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:05.599
warned about that too. I was like, don't spend more

943
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:09.079
than five minutes looking at the clothes. Yeah. So those

944
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:15.400
were like very basic tips that really help. But as

945
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:18.079
far as his his team there, you know, he has

946
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:21.960
a director of photography who or cameraman for people who

947
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:28.480
don't know that term, who seems very experienced, very serious

948
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.920
and a little bit of a no at all. That

949
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:35.280
happens a lot with directors of photography. And but before

950
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.320
we take this break, you want to I don't know

951
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.199
if you've ever told you this one. There aren't a

952
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:41.480
lot of movie set jokes, but this is a classic one.

953
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:47.119
Why don't cinematographers smoke cigarettes? I don't know why it

954
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:52.719
takes them three hours to light one. We'll be right back.

955
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:10.000
So, the the live broadcast is fast approaching. They are

956
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:16.280
now doing uh, you know, increasing rehearsals. But unfortunately the

957
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:21.199
actress playing the makeup artist and the actor playing the

958
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:24.519
director both had to back out at the last minute.

959
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:27.559
And when you say fast approaching, by the way, you

960
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:29.840
undersold what what we mean by that is like it's

961
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:32.280
shooting in or it's airing live in like four or

962
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:32.960
five hours.

963
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:39.559
Yeah, like they are on sets in this abandoned plant

964
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:44.840
factory thing like they just got the news. So so

965
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:50.880
the the director, Hagarashi, he is like, okay, I'll I'll

966
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:52.719
play the role of the director.

967
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:57.159
He fits because he fits. He fits the I think

968
00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:59.760
they're like they look similar they do, and the characters

969
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:00.480
based on him.

970
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.119
Yeah, so because he clearly like wrote wrote the you

971
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:06.320
know something, you write what you know so.

972
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:08.079
Well, it's a movie about making a movie. He's made

973
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:11.480
by a movie maker. What I love about that is

974
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.079
so he says that, and the producer, his old buddy,

975
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:16.559
is just like that sounds good. That makes sense. And

976
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:18.320
then when they're trying to for who have replaced the

977
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:22.559
makeup artists with uh, take I feel bad. You can

978
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:28.199
never rembers in take not Yami takei Yuki. Yeah he

979
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:32.119
he his daughter says, my mom can do it. She's

980
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:35.119
read the script a bunch, and her mom is just

981
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.199
kind of like, I have read I do know all

982
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:40.599
the parts. You know yeah, so her dad is kind

983
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.119
of like uh, and then the producer's like, great, she's perfect,

984
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.880
she plays perfect the role, get in the costumes. And

985
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:48.000
I actually really liked that they didn't go with the

986
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:52.880
kind of super obvious common element of like the producer

987
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:56.119
like disagreeing or getting in the way or whatever. He's

988
00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:58.880
actually really gung ho. He just wants the production to

989
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:01.320
go off. Well, so he's like, that sounds a good idea.

990
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:03.360
Let's go. That sounds a good idea. Let's go. Like

991
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:05.159
he just wants to move it along, and I'm sure

992
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:09.400
it all happens. So yeah, I I so now we

993
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:13.800
have the director and his wife in the film as well,

994
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:18.440
which I mean, stuff happens. I mean sometimes you are

995
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:20.760
lucky enough to be able to pivot when an actor

996
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:25.159
backs out. Sometimes you can't. Yeah, it varies a lot. Yeah,

997
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:32.079
so it's just that's way too real. But I don't

998
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:34.159
want to go on a diatribe about people dropping out,

999
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:36.760
because sometimes it's a good reason, sometimes it's not. Sometimes

1000
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:40.280
it's just that they're not reliable. But our lead actor

1001
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:42.719
has something to say about it, because he doesn't like

1002
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.000
the idea that two of the main characters are no longer,

1003
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:49.400
you know, the actors they cast that they planned with,

1004
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:54.320
and he tells Takeyuki like we we should cancel, like

1005
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:57.639
we should just cancel the shoot because for art, yeah,

1006
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:01.960
I think even literally yeah the artist whatever. Yeah, And

1007
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:08.239
Takayuki uses a method that works on basically any actor,

1008
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:11.039
which is he says, well, we can't cancel it. I

1009
00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:14.920
mean looks around and kind of like this is your show,

1010
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:18.559
like this is your drama, Like this showcases you more

1011
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:22.360
than anybody, So I don't think it even really matters

1012
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:27.960
who the other roles are. Works every time he eats it.

1013
00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:31.519
Up and he's like, oh yeah, and then he starts talking, actually,

1014
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:34.960
I've been thinking about like the underlying commentary about like

1015
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:36.199
the socio economicy.

1016
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:41.840
He says it's underlying commentary about race or something, because

1017
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:43.800
that that was brought up at the read read through.

1018
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:45.760
Because then one of the other actors, like I missed

1019
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:50.719
the part about yeahs racism. And he's just like just

1020
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:53.480
because one of the actors, he's got these big thick

1021
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:57.280
framed glasses on. That's how you really like tell him

1022
00:54:57.599 --> 00:54:59.840
in a lineup immediately is he got these like super

1023
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:03.719
thick rimmed glasses. But he's clearly like the youngest, least

1024
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:07.800
experienced actor, because he's really really anxious and excited the

1025
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.000
whole time. That's just his thing. He's just like nervous

1026
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:15.440
and anxious and excited. So they've had to recast, they've

1027
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.079
had to kind of figure out what they're gonna do

1028
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:22.480
and to get it all to work. And now it's

1029
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:26.559
it's basically showtime because most of this is just the

1030
00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:31.280
other side of them filming, yeah, or streaming, I guess really,

1031
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:36.360
but like it. I love everything about how they did it.

1032
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:38.760
But this is and and this is like like I

1033
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:41.440
was talking about setting up the dominoes, so they're like

1034
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:46.440
they're literally moments like they're setting up the first shot,

1035
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:51.719
and the guy playing the boom operator, the sound guy,

1036
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:55.639
he goes to reach for a drink and he takes

1037
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:58.280
a big gulp of water and then looks at the

1038
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:03.239
water bottle and realizes he grabbed someone else's water. And

1039
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:08.320
now he's got like moments before things are going to

1040
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:08.800
go down.

1041
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:13.920
Yeah, so now before we're even actually fully beginning, he's

1042
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:16.880
knows that his stomach is going to be a nightmare

1043
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:21.039
this whole time. And that's where I feel like the

1044
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:27.880
movie really shines is in the diarrhea. But this is

1045
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:32.199
where it really shines because what the movie depicts by

1046
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:35.280
in my opinion, what the movie depicts by having it

1047
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:40.679
be live, is the sense of urgency that making a

1048
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:44.280
movie brings out. And that sense of urgency is what

1049
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:47.800
can really bring out the best in your crew and

1050
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:51.719
your cast. So having it be something like this, you know,

1051
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:54.199
because it would be a lot harder to depict, you know,

1052
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:58.079
getting through a day versus getting through twenty minutes. That

1053
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:01.360
has to be perfect, but the same concept. I mean,

1054
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:04.800
you keep going and keep you know, keep rolling, which

1055
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:08.760
he's constantly yelling keep rolling, keep rolling, which I love

1056
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:12.119
because his character in the movie, like he just pops

1057
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:13.400
up and goes action. Yeah.

1058
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:18.239
He almost becomes like a tertiary monster jumping out of

1059
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:18.880
the corners.

1060
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:20.800
Oh, without a doubt. No, he is another.

1061
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:26.039
Monster, which is it's just beautiful because he'll even like

1062
00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:30.559
take someone that's recently been zombified, throw them into the

1063
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:32.840
group of actors and then scream action.

1064
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:37.360
Yeah, yeah, it's so great. Well, and as the chaos ensues,

1065
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:40.920
as they're going live and all these things are going wrong,

1066
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:43.800
one of the first things we discover is that that

1067
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.280
that awkward scene where they were just kind of talking

1068
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:51.559
to each other about whatever in the in the actual

1069
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:55.559
movie was actually them waiting for a queue because nothing

1070
00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:58.719
had happened because of the the actor playing the boom

1071
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:04.599
operator being outside using the bathroom, and it just it

1072
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.239
kills me because the reason I love the scene is

1073
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:09.639
because as they're sitting there and they're not sure what

1074
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:14.840
to do, the actress who's new, is kind of nervous,

1075
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:17.880
you know, worried that it's all about to collapse. And

1076
00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:20.599
the experienced actor, who has been a bit of a

1077
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:22.880
snob and a bit of a pain, is the one

1078
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:26.400
who just starts improvising yeah, and will not let this

1079
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:29.599
this blow because he understands that there is no second take. Yeah,

1080
00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:33.119
it just has to keep going. So he just starts

1081
00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:35.960
saying like do you have any hobbies to the makeup

1082
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:38.360
artist who is the director's wife, and she's like huh.

1083
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:40.840
He's like hobbies. Do you have any hobbies? And the

1084
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:43.000
actress is like, that's such a random thing to ask,

1085
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:45.519
and he's like, Oh, let's have some fun, which I

1086
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:47.920
like too because it's like, you're in the moment in

1087
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:50.079
your scene, you're literally just two actors hanging out with

1088
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.679
the makeup lady and you have nothing else to do. Yeah,

1089
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:57.639
so he's just making conversation and throughout this whole thing

1090
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.000
because we can't like nail every point. It would be

1091
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:03.880
impossible because the movie gets really dense. But one of

1092
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:06.719
my favorite things is that, like when you're watching the

1093
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:08.360
Little Movie at the beginning, there are parts where like

1094
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:11.199
there's long pauses or whatever, or where something happens and

1095
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:13.280
everybody looks over. But then when you're watching this version,

1096
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:15.440
like they hear a door slam and they look over

1097
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:18.360
and it's just an one of the crew people holding

1098
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:20.400
a piece of paper that tells them what is about

1099
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:22.360
to happen next or where to go when they're didn't

1100
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:24.519
see it, Like we had to rewrite the scene, please

1101
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:26.400
do this. My favorite was the one where the zombie

1102
00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:29.039
walks by the woman because it's so creepy in the movie,

1103
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:31.559
like this gross leg passes by and it just doesn't

1104
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:33.519
see her and keeps walking. And then in this person,

1105
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:35.320
when it's walking up to her, it cuts to the

1106
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:37.440
wide shot and it's just one of the crew people.

1107
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:39.559
They painted one of her legs and she's just holding

1108
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:41.920
a sign that says grab the axe when you walk

1109
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:46.280
out of the doorway, because as all this is happening,

1110
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:48.960
they have to figure out what we're gonna do. So

1111
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:50.760
there's you know, the producer and some people in the

1112
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.320
back and they're all sitting there with the script trying

1113
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:55.119
to figure out, like what are we gonna do? And

1114
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:58.199
one of my favorite things is that's when the daughter

1115
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:01.320
really kind of comes into her own. And we'll talk

1116
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:03.960
about that right after this, because now it's getting into

1117
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:20.000
the really nitty gritty good stuff and more diarrhea. So

1118
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:25.440
as the production is going haywire, they're debating putting up

1119
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:31.159
the technical difficulty screen and just botching it because it

1120
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:35.039
is what it is. And take Yuki's daughter is like, no,

1121
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:38.000
we can fix this, and she just on the fly,

1122
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:41.079
you know, figures out how they where they can start

1123
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:43.199
back up, Like how if they get the actors here

1124
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:45.480
in here, then we could be on page sixteen, yeah,

1125
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:48.880
and we could just keep going. And I love that

1126
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.320
because that is literally what you have to do. It's again,

1127
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:54.519
it's not in a twenty minute live stream, but that's

1128
01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:58.239
pretty much what you do. Oh yeah, constantly rewriting, changing things.

1129
01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:02.599
I remember one time I was making the movie really

1130
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:05.199
tight schedule. They all do have tight schedules, but this

1131
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:09.039
was really tight. And I had an assistant who was

1132
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:13.360
a Right State film student, and I've met a lot

1133
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:15.960
of Right State is the big film school out here.

1134
01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:20.039
It's a huge film school, and she wanted to learn.

1135
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:21.800
So I was like, yeah, you could be my assistant.

1136
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:24.559
And I've had a lot of bad experience with the

1137
01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:27.519
Right State film students, just not having any gumption or anything.

1138
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:29.800
I'm sure there are good ones out there, and she

1139
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:32.840
wasn't a terrible assistant, but honestly, she was kind of

1140
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:36.480
not the best assistant until maybe the third movie she

1141
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:38.800
helped on, because she just didn't know anything about what

1142
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:41.039
she was doing. You know, that's what but we all

1143
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:44.559
have to start somewhere. But at one point we had

1144
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:47.079
something had happened with like the makeup was way late

1145
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:49.360
or something, and I just sat down at the kitchen

1146
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:51.760
table at the location and I was just crossing out

1147
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:55.280
entire sections of script and she was like, what are

1148
01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:59.119
you doing? And I was like, I'm removing script from

1149
01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:02.400
the movie and she was like, what do you mean.

1150
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:04.880
I'm like, like, these don't exist anymore, because we don't

1151
01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:06.960
will never be able to film these with the amount

1152
01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:09.039
of time we have left. So if I cut this

1153
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:12.119
and this and this, hopefully the movie's run time will

1154
01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:14.639
not be too short, like like you know. And she

1155
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:17.239
was like, oh, well, like was she asked something that

1156
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:19.280
was like painful? I like she didn't know what an

1157
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:21.159
awful question was to ask. She was like, well, it's

1158
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:22.719
nothing important. And I looked up at her and I

1159
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:24.119
was like, this is some of my favorite parts of

1160
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:26.599
the movie. And she was like oh, And I was like,

1161
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:32.519
I I have no choice, like make make it. I

1162
01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:35.639
felt bad because we had I don't want to name

1163
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:37.119
them because I don't want to shame them. But we

1164
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:40.119
had a makeup artist who I'm very close with, and

1165
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:43.559
he was doing like a really cool effect, but he

1166
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:45.360
kept he he I don't know, he must have been

1167
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:46.960
in a bad mood that day, but he kept saying

1168
01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:49.840
ten minutes, ten minutes, ten minutes, and after forty minutes,

1169
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:54.079
I just shot the scene without the effect, like I

1170
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:56.239
did it in a different way. And I didn't tell

1171
01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:58.920
him because I was pissed. So when he said, like,

1172
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:00.480
it's just about ready, I was like, we already shot it.

1173
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.599
You could just stop. I made him finished. I made

1174
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:04.199
him almost finish the work before. I told him, like,

1175
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.360
we're not showing it, so like even just stopping. He

1176
01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:08.519
was mad and I was, and but it's funny. He

1177
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:10.280
was like, he was like, that's shitty, and I'm like, yeah,

1178
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:12.440
it was shitty that it was never ready too, like

1179
01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:15.599
let's just let's just move on. Yeah, but I was

1180
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:19.599
pretty mad. But no. So, yeah, you're always thinking on

1181
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:22.480
your feet and you're always kind of figuring out how

1182
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:25.000
to get the day done. So I love that because

1183
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:27.159
she figures that solution out and then they make the

1184
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:29.800
final decision like we're not going to cut away. We're

1185
01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:33.880
gonna keep going. We're gonna make this work. And I

1186
01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:34.239
love it.

1187
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:34.760
Yeah.

1188
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:36.800
And then and I also love that they there were

1189
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:38.480
a few moments where they were like what's happening because

1190
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:41.320
there were they long pauses or whatever. And I love

1191
01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:44.719
that the h they cut to the executive and like

1192
01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:46.760
at first she's watched, She's like that's weird, and then

1193
01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:49.079
like you saying, she's like okay, and then toward the end,

1194
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:51.079
when all the chaos is happening, she's just on her phone.

1195
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:56.440
Yeah, and there's there's even some other executive because it's

1196
01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:59.239
like one of the scenes that's like really dragging on,

1197
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:04.119
and one of the other executives even Hasser, like don't

1198
01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:05.880
you think this is a little bit long? And she

1199
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:07.679
just looks up from her phone like a what.

1200
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:12.920
Yeah, what? It's so good. So all these crazy things

1201
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:15.760
are happening, I mean, like the boom operator guy is

1202
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:18.320
having diarrhea, and finally the directors like we can't wait

1203
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:20.760
any longer, and he orders the makeup ladies start making

1204
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:25.719
him up as a zombie while he's crapping outside. That's great,

1205
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:26.960
but I think that.

1206
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:29.119
His actor friend finally found the sake.

1207
01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:31.960
Oh yeah, he's drunk, his hell. At one point, he's

1208
01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:35.599
literally puppeting him as the zombie and he vomits on

1209
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:37.880
the guy for real. Super fun. I mean like it's

1210
01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:42.360
such a great, hilarious thing, all of it. But I

1211
01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:45.119
think that the person who really comes into their own

1212
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:48.480
in the movie the most is the lead actor guy Yeah,

1213
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:52.719
because he really rolls with every punch. He's all in,

1214
01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:56.400
you know, when something goes wrong, he's just in it anyway.

1215
01:04:57.159 --> 01:04:59.719
But on top of all of the normal chaos, we

1216
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:03.440
find out why takea Yuki's wife stopped being an actress.

1217
01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:05.440
I was hoping we were gonna get to those.

1218
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:09.159
Part because apparently on a film or a drama or

1219
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.239
whatever she was working on, she gets so into her

1220
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:18.400
characters she can't come out sometimes and she broke her

1221
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:23.960
co star's arm. But it's great because she says it

1222
01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:26.360
with such pride and the people here that are like,

1223
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:31.960
so we have a maniac loose as well as everything else.

1224
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:35.199
And she does start to go kind of cuckoob and

1225
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:38.320
a nase. Yeah, like, oh my god.

1226
01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:41.760
She starts saying things like that are coming up. She

1227
01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:45.599
starts quoting herself. Yeah, yeah, oh my god, I am calm.

1228
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:49.280
I'm dead, calm covered in blood. You know, like it

1229
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:49.960
is so great.

1230
01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:51.679
But at one point, like as they're running around in

1231
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:53.159
the director because there were a couple of times when

1232
01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:55.400
we talk about the director becomes like the tertiary monster

1233
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.679
action and he's always yelling action, which is so good too,

1234
01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:03.079
because that's just all a director is. That's you know,

1235
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:05.000
I mean, I love that that that joke though, that

1236
01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:06.920
that's just like, isn't that just what all the actor

1237
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:10.079
directors do is say action and cut kind of to

1238
01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:11.840
an extent, I told her I had an actor who

1239
01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:13.480
used to argue with me so much on this one

1240
01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:15.599
movie that the only way I could get them to

1241
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:18.639
stop was I would say roll camera, because they would

1242
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:21.639
They were professional, so if I said roll camera, they

1243
01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:25.119
would stop because they had to get ready. So it

1244
01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:27.519
became the only way I could end a conversation. I

1245
01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:30.480
wasn't happy with it because it would be complaining or

1246
01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:33.159
or sometimes even just talking and it'd be like, we

1247
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:34.599
have to get we have to get back to work.

1248
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:37.440
So I just roll camera and they just stop and whatever.

1249
01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:39.360
And then by the time I said cut, if they

1250
01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:41.360
tried to start up, I'd be like moving on, like

1251
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:43.880
like I was just like I got work to do,

1252
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:46.480
you know, like afterward we could go get burritos and

1253
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:48.840
talk for five fucking hours, but we cannot do it

1254
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:52.000
right now. We have a heart out from this location

1255
01:06:52.320 --> 01:06:53.960
because a little old lady lives here and if she

1256
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:58.239
doesn't get her heart medicine, she'll die. That. But that's well,

1257
01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:01.199
that's not literally what how it worked. That's how it

1258
01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:06.000
feels sometimes like because people don't know what goes into

1259
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:09.000
every aspect, and they shouldn't. They should be privy to

1260
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:10.320
only what they need to because they need to be

1261
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:13.880
able to do their job to their best ability. But like, yeah,

1262
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:15.719
it's like you don't know. For all you know, like

1263
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:19.239
I borrowed this place from a terminal cancer patient and

1264
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:21.519
they really need to go to bed at ten thirty.

1265
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:26.159
We can't run late for all, you know. That's the

1266
01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:30.800
deal I made, So please just do what I say.

1267
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:36.599
I mean, yeah, because yeah, time is everything. And that's

1268
01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:39.559
why I think why I so deeply believe it was

1269
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:42.119
brilliant to have it be live, Yeah, because then it

1270
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:47.480
gives you that sense of that insane urgency and seeing

1271
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:51.400
so now as things are getting crazier and crazier, and

1272
01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:53.840
the crew members, you know, some of them are injured,

1273
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:56.559
some of them are sick, some of them are just

1274
01:07:56.679 --> 01:08:01.239
confused or disgusted or whatever. All still like in it.

1275
01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:03.840
They're all still in their heads, are in the game though.

1276
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:05.519
They want to like get this thing done. They wanted

1277
01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:09.400
to be successful. On top of all that, though, the

1278
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:14.800
director's wife is just like hitting people, mostly him though, yeah,

1279
01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:16.399
because at one point he jumps out and tries to

1280
01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:18.399
like stop her from chasing after them because her character

1281
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:19.720
is not supposed to be in that shot or whatever,

1282
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:21.640
and she just knees him right in the nuts and

1283
01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:24.119
he doesn't even react. I mean he reacts as in pain,

1284
01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:25.680
but he just gets back how he keeps going, He's

1285
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:27.960
like done if it matters, and that is that is

1286
01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:32.359
the other thing about how productions feel is like if

1287
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:33.880
I got kicked in the nuts, I'd fall to the

1288
01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:35.720
ground and I'd be like, Okay, I felt all the pain.

1289
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:38.239
I have time for I have to get the shot

1290
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:40.920
right now. Well, like that time we were filming and

1291
01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:44.119
I got that giant what was it not a burr,

1292
01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:47.560
but it was a giant thorn and I just pulled

1293
01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:49.680
it out and I was like, uh, I'm just gonna

1294
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:50.920
put a band in on this that we got a

1295
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:53.560
we got running behind, but like it was one of

1296
01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:55.079
those things where when I pulled it out of my leg,

1297
01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:56.520
it just kept coming out and I was like, oh,

1298
01:08:56.520 --> 01:09:00.640
that's really that's in the muscle. Okay, well let's get

1299
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:06.840
back to work, but we'll talk about more hilarious pain

1300
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:21.920
right after this. I want to take it back for

1301
01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:25.880
a minute. So earlier, when we first meet taka Yuki

1302
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:29.680
and his family, we start to see these hints that

1303
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:34.319
taka Yuki is has a malaise going on because his

1304
01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:37.239
daughter's growing up, and we get the sense that I

1305
01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:39.479
don't think they actually say she's moving away or anything,

1306
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:42.119
but she is and more so, she's not his little

1307
01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:45.479
girl anymore. Yeah, and maybe I read too much into it,

1308
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:48.159
but I always kind of read it too as like

1309
01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:52.079
we get the vibe that taka Yuki is the breadwinner

1310
01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:55.199
of the household. He loves what he does, he loves

1311
01:09:55.239 --> 01:10:02.199
making films. Obviously his daughter has caught that pas, but

1312
01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:05.079
if he's the breadwinner, he's probably not around that much.

1313
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:07.880
And I feel like that's also maybe one of the

1314
01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:10.640
reasons why, like his wife even notices like that he's

1315
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:13.520
like crying over a picture of her on his shoulders

1316
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:15.880
one of my favorite things ever, on his shoulders holding

1317
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:16.720
a cam quarterer.

1318
01:10:17.079 --> 01:10:18.920
Yeah, and I love that.

1319
01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:22.800
I love that so much. But even she's kind of

1320
01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:25.039
like taking it hard, huh, you know, because he's crying

1321
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:27.079
like these little girl pictures. And part of me wondered

1322
01:10:27.079 --> 01:10:29.399
if maybe she took it less bad because you know,

1323
01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:31.479
she got to spend you know, tons of lunches with

1324
01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:33.439
her and tons you know, like as to where he

1325
01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:35.399
would have to work late, because that's and that's not

1326
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:38.399
just like a gender thing, that's a Japanese cultural thing. Yeah,

1327
01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:40.720
men tend to work. Well, everybody tends to work really

1328
01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:43.880
long hours. So if you you know, you're gonna work

1329
01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:47.399
long hours. So I kind of got that vibe too,

1330
01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:49.479
that you know, he may be more than she did

1331
01:10:49.479 --> 01:10:52.039
felt like it just was too fast. Yeah, which is

1332
01:10:52.039 --> 01:10:54.760
a common parent struggle life. I would assume I don't.

1333
01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:55.800
That's what I've heard.

1334
01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:57.520
Well, we'll see how my mom reacts when I turned

1335
01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:03.199
forty this year, the youngest son turns forty. Oh, dear

1336
01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:09.439
only son and youngest son, but still but no, So

1337
01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:11.640
you know that's a major element too, as we get

1338
01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:14.399
this vibe that you know, he feels like they don't

1339
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:18.159
connect the way they used to because she's grown up

1340
01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:21.520
and that time is kind of over for them to

1341
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:24.560
connect in that way. And I think that that is

1342
01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:27.399
the heart and soul of the film that really sincerely

1343
01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:32.199
separates it from most things, because it has this heart

1344
01:11:32.199 --> 01:11:38.920
and soul of family and passion and love and is

1345
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:41.960
what makes the movie special. And in case those listening

1346
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:45.319
or maybe even you, don't realize how special the film is,

1347
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:48.920
do you know about how it did at the box office?

1348
01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:51.640
Oh, didn't it do like astounding at the box office?

1349
01:11:52.119 --> 01:11:55.079
I would call it beyond astounding, so twenty five thousand

1350
01:11:55.119 --> 01:12:00.439
dollars budget it made just in Japan, twenty seven ninety

1351
01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:05.960
three million US dollars got three point one two billion

1352
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:09.119
yen and the film costs three million yen.

1353
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:12.000
Good Lord, good for them.

1354
01:12:12.279 --> 01:12:15.399
It made box office history for earning one thousand times

1355
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:19.479
its budget, and then it made another about three million worldwide.

1356
01:12:20.119 --> 01:12:20.560
Damn.

1357
01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:23.359
So it was a mass It was massively beloved in Japan,

1358
01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:26.279
and I think in part that was because it has

1359
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:31.439
a really beautiful story about life. Yeah, and you know,

1360
01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:33.600
when you're when you're somebody like me who, as I

1361
01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:36.600
mentioned it passively, I'm pushing forty. I'm about to turn forty.

1362
01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:39.520
I've dedicated my entire life to movies. When I see

1363
01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:42.520
a movie that's about life, and also it takes place

1364
01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:46.039
while making a movie, it's gonna hit me, it's gonna

1365
01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:49.359
hit me hard, you know. So it's one of those

1366
01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:50.800
weird things that where you wake up one day and

1367
01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:52.399
you go, oh. For the last twenty years, I've been

1368
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:54.199
doing that thing I want. I was like doing as

1369
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:56.920
a not a goof, but almost as a lark when

1370
01:12:56.920 --> 01:12:59.199
I was eighteen, and just now I've done it for

1371
01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:02.439
longer than I've been than I was alive prior, like

1372
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:04.159
more of my life. I've been making movies than not,

1373
01:13:04.359 --> 01:13:07.159
like by a substantial margin. So it's weird. It's weird.

1374
01:13:07.319 --> 01:13:12.560
Math is weird. Math is hard, but so uh entropy,

1375
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:16.119
But so I love that element so and it's also

1376
01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:18.279
extra special because you know, his daughter is really stepping

1377
01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:21.159
up to the plate for him in this production. But

1378
01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:25.000
now as we're heading towards the conclusion of the film,

1379
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:27.840
but also of the film. Inside the film, there are

1380
01:13:27.880 --> 01:13:31.079
a few elements that are really important. At the ending,

1381
01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:34.039
there's a big showdown finale, and then there's a crane

1382
01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:35.840
shot at the end. Well, it's a jib shot, not

1383
01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:38.600
a crane shot. A jib is a pole you put

1384
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:40.520
a camera on that has counterweights so you can lift

1385
01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:43.000
the camera up and lower it down. They're much less

1386
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:46.640
popular now that the drones are so popular. But I've

1387
01:13:46.680 --> 01:13:49.960
talked to people who were like, I'll just use a

1388
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:52.239
drone for this, and somebody's like, uh, you're gonna get

1389
01:13:52.279 --> 01:13:54.119
it that You're gonna go inside and have it that

1390
01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:57.520
close to people's heads. No, you're gonna use a jib

1391
01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:00.720
because a jib is safe and secure. These jibs on

1392
01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:04.359
it was pretty dangerous, but on like Dolly tracks, like

1393
01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:06.399
I was wheeling it and I had the arm because

1394
01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:08.359
you put enough counterweight on it so that you barely

1395
01:14:08.399 --> 01:14:12.279
touch it and it surprises. But they're heavy, they're bulky.

1396
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:14.720
They take a really long time to assemble. And the

1397
01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:17.039
reason I'm mentioning the jib is that's a major part

1398
01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:23.479
of what has about the movie. Yeah, and it's so

1399
01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:28.880
taka Yuki. I get him, I do because he is

1400
01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:33.359
realistic about what he's doing. He's realistic about his art,

1401
01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:38.479
his career, everything. But that doesn't mean he doesn't care,

1402
01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:42.680
or doesn't have passion, or doesn't have vision. It's just

1403
01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:47.920
that he understands that the most important vision is to

1404
01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:52.279
feed his family and do right by his crew. And

1405
01:14:52.319 --> 01:14:55.880
that's something that this movie really expresses really well, is

1406
01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:58.439
that when you have a good group of people together,

1407
01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:02.640
I don't it's not in movies. People are just that way.

1408
01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:08.359
We band together quickly to help, often for no benefit

1409
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:11.880
other than the feeling of having helped. That's one of

1410
01:15:11.960 --> 01:15:15.680
my favorite things about people, and on movies sets you

1411
01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:17.479
get that a lot, even people with big egos, even

1412
01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:20.720
people that have pissed you off forever. When they hear like, oh, like,

1413
01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:23.000
if we can't do this, we can't you know, finish

1414
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:27.159
the movie, they step up. So while they're on top

1415
01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:29.359
of the roof where the finale happens, trying to get

1416
01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:33.720
everything ready, the jib gets knocked off the roof. Yeah,

1417
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:37.720
and it's in two pieces on the ground. And I

1418
01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:41.720
want to mention because I do think that the live

1419
01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:46.119
stream is to correlate making a movie with you know,

1420
01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:51.239
how time is crunched. The jib is not broken, it's

1421
01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:55.560
just busted up and it's off the roof. Yeah, jibs

1422
01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:58.079
are modular. You could take it apart, you could fix

1423
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:00.359
it whatever, but it would take more than twe five

1424
01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:03.720
minutes to piece it back out, get it back on

1425
01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:04.840
the roof, and reassemble it.

1426
01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:07.920
Yeah, and they've got like two minutes before that scene's

1427
01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:08.399
coming up.

1428
01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:12.600
Maybe five. That's being kind, But you see my point though, Like,

1429
01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:15.840
that's why I think that that's that's the what it's

1430
01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:18.800
referencing by having the live stream is that it's basically

1431
01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:21.199
showing you what how hard the time crunches are when

1432
01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:24.640
you're making a movie. Because I've been working on a movie,

1433
01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:28.159
I've worked on movies where I wanted Dolly a Dolly shot,

1434
01:16:28.199 --> 01:16:31.600
and I had to literally sit down with the schedule

1435
01:16:31.880 --> 01:16:35.359
and with my planning and be like, where can I

1436
01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:40.319
find the twenty minutes to get the Dolly track assembled?

1437
01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:44.960
Because only myself and my assistant director know how to

1438
01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:47.279
put it together, and he can do most of it

1439
01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:49.520
by himself, but I need him too, So like you

1440
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:52.199
have to start thinking outside the box of like, Okay,

1441
01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:54.199
if we shoot this a little different so it's faster,

1442
01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:56.359
and then if we shoot this in this way so

1443
01:16:56.439 --> 01:16:58.640
we don't need him for that one part. But then

1444
01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:00.920
I also have to make sure I remember to tell him,

1445
01:17:01.199 --> 01:17:03.800
like go start assembling the Dolly track right now. Like

1446
01:17:04.239 --> 01:17:06.760
that's the sheer amount of stuff that you have to

1447
01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:11.359
think about. And in an eight to twelve hour day,

1448
01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:14.680
twenty minutes can be a lot of time. Yeah, you

1449
01:17:14.760 --> 01:17:16.680
know because on a lot of these, you know, on

1450
01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:18.560
big budget movies, they might shoot a page or two

1451
01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:22.239
a day, but on these films, I mean, an easy

1452
01:17:22.359 --> 01:17:26.920
day is ten pages. Sometimes you're doing twenty. Yeah, so

1453
01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:29.520
you have to make sacrifices. You have to make decisions

1454
01:17:29.560 --> 01:17:33.439
about is this that important to me? You know, does

1455
01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:37.119
it matter that much? Like, does it help the story.

1456
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:41.000
Because one thing that I will say that's very useful

1457
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:44.239
when you're making movies is no one will ever know

1458
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:47.960
what you left out. They won't ye because they'll only

1459
01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:50.199
know the movie as the movie. And this the reason

1460
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:52.800
that that is told so perfectly in this film is

1461
01:17:52.840 --> 01:17:56.439
because there are a few really interesting moments in the

1462
01:17:56.479 --> 01:17:59.000
movie that they're making that we see at the beginning

1463
01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:03.359
that are in entirely because they were stalling for time,

1464
01:18:03.640 --> 01:18:06.119
or they needed to come up with something on the

1465
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:09.399
fly that would work, or what what have you. That's

1466
01:18:09.439 --> 01:18:12.880
what movie making is is like at the the ends

1467
01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:16.239
will be the ends, and people will not even notice

1468
01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:19.880
because even even the executive barely paying attention. I don't

1469
01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:22.199
think that that's a commentary on executives. I think it's

1470
01:18:22.239 --> 01:18:26.960
commentary on audiences that audiences don't really notice that much

1471
01:18:27.079 --> 01:18:31.600
because they're not there to, you know, critique with their

1472
01:18:31.720 --> 01:18:35.520
little mustaches and their even littler espresso as they sip

1473
01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:39.560
away and say like, this film's miss un scene is off.

1474
01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:42.960
There are those people and hopefully one day they'll all

1475
01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:47.199
be at the bottom of the ocean, but most audiences

1476
01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:49.640
just want to have a good time. It's why when

1477
01:18:49.640 --> 01:18:53.039
I when I do the show Popcorn Fodder, my motto was,

1478
01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:56.800
remember there are no bad films, only bad audiences. Because

1479
01:18:56.840 --> 01:18:58.760
you know, it's an audience member, it's your job to

1480
01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:02.199
watch somewhat intent, pay attention and try to because I've

1481
01:19:02.600 --> 01:19:05.560
I've put on movies by myself in the living room

1482
01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:08.119
and I and late at night, and I've been mad

1483
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:09.880
at myself because about forty minutes and I realized I

1484
01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:12.560
was not giving it attention. I was distracted or whatever,

1485
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:14.359
and I'm like, God, damn it. Now I don't even

1486
01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:15.439
know if the movie's good or not.

1487
01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:17.720
Yeah, it's not the movie's fault.

1488
01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:21.399
No, it's not. It's my fault entirely. So. But with

1489
01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:25.199
that being said, taka Yuki has come to the you know,

1490
01:19:25.399 --> 01:19:28.760
the realization that his ending shot, which he was very

1491
01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:33.399
excited about, is going to be put or is it.

1492
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:52.000
We'll find out after this. So as taka Yuki realizes

1493
01:19:52.600 --> 01:19:54.199
we won't be able to get this shot and it's

1494
01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:57.159
a really cool shot, the jibs up and reveals the

1495
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:00.920
surviving final girl stand in the middle of a big

1496
01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:04.479
pentagram on top of the building, which pints that earlier

1497
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:07.439
references to the place being haunted in a satanic cult

1498
01:20:07.479 --> 01:20:10.760
and stuff are all true. Yeah, it's a cool ending.

1499
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:12.520
It's a cool enough ending because I really do think

1500
01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:18.039
that the short drama is like a average to really fun,

1501
01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:21.600
low budget Japanese horror movie, but the movie as a

1502
01:20:21.640 --> 01:20:27.159
whole is a unbelievably excellent Japanese movie or Japanese horror

1503
01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:31.840
drama comedy kind of thing. So as they're trying to

1504
01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:32.840
figure out what to do.

1505
01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:35.920
Well, and I like that too. I like that too,

1506
01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:39.640
because the producer even comes up to him as he's

1507
01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:42.600
trying to figure out, like and explaining like we need

1508
01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:44.800
this shot, like this is the shot that makes the

1509
01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:48.079
whole movie. His producer friend even says, and he's not

1510
01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:51.159
being mean or condescending, he's just being honest. He's like,

1511
01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:52.880
your average will do.

1512
01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:55.399
Yeah, he means that would love. He's saying like you're

1513
01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:57.520
no matter what happens, you're going to do a good job. Yeah.

1514
01:20:57.720 --> 01:20:58.039
Yes.

1515
01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:04.000
But then daughter, Yeah, she comes up with a solution,

1516
01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:08.359
and because because Takayuki's already come up with like, Okay,

1517
01:21:08.359 --> 01:21:11.039
we're going to end on this shot instead and we'll

1518
01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:13.359
do this in this which that alone is really hard.

1519
01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:14.800
He came up with a new ending on the fly.

1520
01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:19.079
That's very hard to do. Yeah, as all the chaos

1521
01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:21.720
is happening, we notice over by where that shot is

1522
01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:26.520
supposed to happen, crew members are slowly gathering and take

1523
01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:28.720
Yu's daughter is like running back and going you two,

1524
01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:30.399
like the two women in the back room. They're like,

1525
01:21:30.439 --> 01:21:32.479
you two, are you doing anything right now? Like are

1526
01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:35.359
you done? Because the show's basically over, and they're like no,

1527
01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:39.359
and she grabs them. They start forming a human pyramid

1528
01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:44.119
because the camera needs to raise about seven or eight feet.

1529
01:21:44.159 --> 01:21:45.079
Yeah, that's eight feet.

1530
01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:50.279
So they start pulling together this human pyramid while all

1531
01:21:50.319 --> 01:21:54.399
the chaos is going on. At one point, Takayuki literally

1532
01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:57.479
puts his wife in a choke hold until she's unconscious

1533
01:21:57.479 --> 01:22:01.880
so she'll stop terrorizing everybody. It's great, I mean, it's

1534
01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:03.960
so so funny and so wild.

1535
01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:09.640
Ah. And at one point she wakes up from being

1536
01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:12.640
choked out and pops up in the camera and he

1537
01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:13.920
pulls her back down.

1538
01:22:14.119 --> 01:22:15.600
Yeah, he tackles her down.

1539
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:17.479
Which is so funny because you saw that in the

1540
01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:18.359
first part.

1541
01:22:18.119 --> 01:22:20.479
And you're like, it just seemed like a jump scare

1542
01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:22.439
because she had an axe in her head, so maybe

1543
01:22:22.479 --> 01:22:24.439
she wasn't quite dead. It was like a like a

1544
01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:28.960
nervous reaction or whatever, which honestly is not super uncommon

1545
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:31.159
in horror movie Japanese horror movies for people to like

1546
01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:33.159
have like a horrible head wound to be alive for

1547
01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:38.119
a second. Again. Yeah, So, as the we're heading towards

1548
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:42.079
the big finale, man, I was like, I'm not gonna

1549
01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:43.800
cry when I talk about it, because I cried when

1550
01:22:43.800 --> 01:22:47.880
we watched it. But as we look over and see

1551
01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:52.039
all the actors and crew, most of them like trying

1552
01:22:52.039 --> 01:22:54.760
to do this pyramid. One of the corners the pyramid

1553
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:58.239
keeps falling over, just doesn't have the balance. And then

1554
01:22:58.399 --> 01:23:02.960
the lead actor, guy whose character died, had just died,

1555
01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:05.600
he crawls away from you know where he's supposed to hidden.

1556
01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:07.880
After that you have the bloodspray and everything, and he

1557
01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:12.039
asks that croopers to step aside, and he steps up

1558
01:23:12.079 --> 01:23:14.319
to be a part of the human pyramid. And I

1559
01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:16.439
know what you're thinking, if you're listening to this, you're like,

1560
01:23:16.479 --> 01:23:19.920
why is he crying about a human pyramid? If you

1561
01:23:20.399 --> 01:23:22.720
if cheerleading meant to you what it means to me,

1562
01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:28.800
you do with that. But so all the cast crew,

1563
01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:34.199
everybody available is making this human pyramid with the hope being,

1564
01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:37.279
with the goal being to pass the camera up the

1565
01:23:37.319 --> 01:23:42.880
pyramid to get the shot. Then as they're getting ready

1566
01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:48.640
to put the camera up there, his daughter climbs up there,

1567
01:23:48.840 --> 01:23:50.960
and he climbs up with her. Takayuki climbs up with

1568
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:54.920
his daughter, and to get the last bit of that shot,

1569
01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:58.840
he puts her up on his shoulders, just like the

1570
01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:01.960
photo of them to get Yeah, And that's not why

1571
01:24:01.960 --> 01:24:03.359
I mean, I'm crying a little bit because of that,

1572
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:07.680
because that's a beautiful father daughter moment. But the reason

1573
01:24:07.720 --> 01:24:13.319
I'm crying is because what that symbolizes is the reality

1574
01:24:13.319 --> 01:24:17.439
of making a movie. Mm hmm. And that is that

1575
01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:20.319
all the people you're working with, your team, your actors,

1576
01:24:20.319 --> 01:24:24.399
your director, your actors, your producers, your your crew, they

1577
01:24:24.399 --> 01:24:27.279
are there to lift you up higher than you can

1578
01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:29.600
stand on your own so that you can have your movie.

1579
01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:35.439
And and the director made that literal yeah that at

1580
01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:39.239
the end, literally everybody lifts him up. And then what

1581
01:24:39.279 --> 01:24:40.920
does he do when they lift him up, He lifts

1582
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:45.720
his daughter even higher. And that really that emotionally hit

1583
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:47.359
me so hard the first time I watched it, I

1584
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:49.359
didn't even have to like think about it. I was

1585
01:24:49.399 --> 01:24:51.079
just like, that's I remember the first time watching I

1586
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:53.800
started crying, like that's what It's exactly like. Yeah, they

1587
01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:57.520
all they all lift you up so you could do

1588
01:24:57.560 --> 01:24:59.920
what you need to do. And that was the beauty

1589
01:24:59.920 --> 01:25:03.920
of that. This movie tells so much story without dialogue,

1590
01:25:05.239 --> 01:25:09.000
about teamwork and how it works on a film, how

1591
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:11.079
people come together because they all want to be a

1592
01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:13.800
part of a movie because everybody loves movies, and of

1593
01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:16.520
course they love movies because movies are where we get

1594
01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:19.479
to live a whole other life and live at a

1595
01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:22.359
different time, and have friends we would never meet, and

1596
01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:24.520
we get all these beautiful things from movies. It's why

1597
01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:27.920
I'm sitting here talking about them right now, because movies

1598
01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:30.640
are very special and that's what brings people together. And

1599
01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:32.399
I'm sure it's that way with all kinds of other

1600
01:25:32.439 --> 01:25:34.960
passionate things that I've not I have no involvement with.

1601
01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:39.359
But for me, it was an It's an incredible and

1602
01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:42.960
beautiful moment and I've never seen it done better.

1603
01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:43.960
Mm hmm.

1604
01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:48.439
I've seen movies where about making movies where you know everybody,

1605
01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:51.199
you know when it's time, everybody's game faces are on

1606
01:25:51.239 --> 01:25:56.239
and stuff, but to literally lift you up, and like

1607
01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:58.880
everybody's there, even like the uh, the actor who had

1608
01:25:58.880 --> 01:26:01.199
gotten sick from being vomited on. He's in the pyramid

1609
01:26:01.279 --> 01:26:03.439
and they're all and also I want to mention they're

1610
01:26:03.479 --> 01:26:07.159
all incredibly uncomfortable and in pain because it's really difficult

1611
01:26:07.159 --> 01:26:09.119
to make a human pyramid, really and they're all like

1612
01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:11.279
struggling while they're holding them, but they're all like smiling

1613
01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:13.880
because like it's the last shot. That's what making a

1614
01:26:13.920 --> 01:26:17.840
movie's like, you you know, like I can't tell you

1615
01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:21.840
how many times on the last day things got hard

1616
01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:25.880
or super challenging or tight on time, and the only

1617
01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:28.079
thing I could do was tell everybody like, look, I

1618
01:26:28.119 --> 01:26:30.119
just need you to power through, because like when this

1619
01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:33.439
is done, we're done, like we have it. And that

1620
01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:37.439
motivates everybody when they hear like we're gonna be done,

1621
01:26:38.199 --> 01:26:41.560
like like we have we have completed our task if

1622
01:26:41.560 --> 01:26:45.359
we just eat shit for an hour and a half longer. Yeah,

1623
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:47.439
it's a beautiful thing. So yeah, I mean, like it

1624
01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:51.199
made me cry my eyes out because it is truly

1625
01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:54.239
beautiful and it's a truly wonderful gift. I mean, I

1626
01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:57.399
could tell a lot of jokes and stories and anecdotes

1627
01:26:57.399 --> 01:27:01.520
about crew people you know, being crummy sometimes or actors

1628
01:27:01.520 --> 01:27:06.800
being whatever. But like, I mean, I'm very grateful for

1629
01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:09.319
the help I've received and the time that people have

1630
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:15.119
given me. Very much, and I would never undersell it.

1631
01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:17.199
It's it's why i'm It's why I'm such a prick

1632
01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:17.800
about time.

1633
01:27:18.199 --> 01:27:18.640
Mm hmm.

1634
01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:21.800
It's it's not because I'm a control freak. I don't

1635
01:27:21.840 --> 01:27:23.520
actually think I am. I think I I think it's

1636
01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:27.000
it's only a symptom of situation circumstances. I don't think

1637
01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:29.479
that that's generally how I am. It's just you give

1638
01:27:29.479 --> 01:27:31.039
me a task, I do it. So if the task

1639
01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:32.920
is get the movie done, I'm gonna have to control things.

1640
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:36.039
I'm gonna have to be intense because I can be

1641
01:27:36.079 --> 01:27:42.239
pretty laid back when nothing is really you know, dire, butugh.

1642
01:27:43.199 --> 01:27:47.319
But like when people are late, it's it's like, don't

1643
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:50.319
you respect all these people's time? Don't you care that,

1644
01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:53.640
like people are gonna be late getting home. That's why

1645
01:27:53.680 --> 01:27:55.359
I try so hard to get things done. I've had

1646
01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:58.640
I've had literally had Cruise tell me, like, dude, it's fine,

1647
01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:02.560
we'll stay another half an hour relax. I've I've literally

1648
01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:05.439
had people be like that and I'm like, no, my

1649
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:09.199
job is to whatever they're like, please know that none

1650
01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:12.600
of us are mad. And I'm like, Okay, I don't

1651
01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:18.600
believe you, but whatever. So yeah, that's kind of my

1652
01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:21.479
my stance on it. We're gonna take a quick break

1653
01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:24.039
and then you can you can, you know, point out

1654
01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:26.079
that I lied about everything and in reality, I'm a

1655
01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:40.319
horrible person. On set right after this, my diatribe was

1656
01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:45.800
a little intense, A little intense. I want to make

1657
01:28:45.800 --> 01:28:48.840
sure I wasn't talking over you or anything or your insights,

1658
01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:51.239
because I mean, you've been producing movies with me for

1659
01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:55.720
you know, six seven years, you know, and you've seen

1660
01:28:55.760 --> 01:29:00.279
a lot of challenging circumstances. Yeah, so I don't know.

1661
01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:03.319
I mean, like, I want to hear your your perspective.

1662
01:29:04.439 --> 01:29:07.319
Well, no, I I agree with everything that you said.

1663
01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:08.640
Damn right, I'm the director.

1664
01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:10.479
No I.

1665
01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:17.600
I just remember it was after we had filmed, you know,

1666
01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:23.079
after we had filmed a TV show together series. I.

1667
01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:26.479
I was meeting up with one of my cousins for

1668
01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:29.279
coffee and she asked me like, oh, well, what what

1669
01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:31.520
was it like? Like, what was it like working on

1670
01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:35.159
a movie set and with like, I didn't even think

1671
01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:37.760
about it, it just came out of my mouth. I

1672
01:29:37.800 --> 01:29:38.880
was like, it's like warfare.

1673
01:29:39.279 --> 01:29:40.560
Yeah, yeah, it's like a war.

1674
01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:45.439
And she's like, what really, that sounds not great. I'm like, no,

1675
01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:48.239
it's like but it's the best thing ever because you're

1676
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:53.840
all working together toward the same goal. Uh. And that's

1677
01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:58.840
like you you you create a family out of your

1678
01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:02.680
your cast and your crew, hopefully by the end.

1679
01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:06.159
Yeah, I mean usually usually. Yeah, in my experience, the

1680
01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:08.159
more money a production has, the more people you never

1681
01:30:08.199 --> 01:30:11.399
want to see again when it's over. I'm just being honest, Like,

1682
01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:16.039
I mean, like the biggest budget movie I've ever worked

1683
01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:19.000
on as a producer, Like, I don't want to see

1684
01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:22.159
half of those people ever again. And the second biggest

1685
01:30:22.159 --> 01:30:25.720
movie I ever did as producer, I'd like to never

1686
01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:28.800
see like a fourth of them ever again. Yeah. Yeah,

1687
01:30:29.039 --> 01:30:31.279
it's weird. I don't know. Maybe it's a passion thing.

1688
01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:33.720
I don't know. I mean, as the man said, no money,

1689
01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:34.800
more problems.

1690
01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:35.079
That's true.

1691
01:30:35.239 --> 01:30:39.119
It's true, great poet, but no, it is kind of

1692
01:30:39.119 --> 01:30:40.720
like warfare. And you know, the funny thing is, like

1693
01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:43.600
that's what they say in warfare. Is that like the

1694
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:45.279
best part is the guy next to you.

1695
01:30:45.600 --> 01:30:47.920
Yeah. Yeah, it's true, though.

1696
01:30:47.960 --> 01:30:50.079
I mean, I'm not saying that we literally are war

1697
01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:52.760
but it is a it's a You're facing tons of

1698
01:30:52.840 --> 01:30:56.560
challenges and there's always a new one. I mean, do

1699
01:30:56.640 --> 01:30:59.000
you know, I don't think we've ever talked about this

1700
01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:01.439
on the show. The story of when I was filming

1701
01:31:01.439 --> 01:31:04.880
Babysitter Massacre and the kid showed up at the front door. No,

1702
01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:06.399
oh my god.

1703
01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:08.479
Oh wait was that the kid that was asking how

1704
01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:09.039
to tie it?

1705
01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:12.479
Yeah? Yeah, no, go go oh yeah. So I was

1706
01:31:12.520 --> 01:31:15.760
making the first Babysitter Massacre movie and I was at

1707
01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:20.479
my buddy Chandra's house filming it there, and we had

1708
01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:23.159
like a pretty decent sized crew, and I'm young in

1709
01:31:23.199 --> 01:31:26.239
my career at that point, this is like twelve thirteen

1710
01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:30.560
years ago, and everybody was asking me so many questions.

1711
01:31:30.760 --> 01:31:33.319
You know, it gets hard to answer everything. So I

1712
01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:35.560
would steak to the bathroom if I needed a minute. Apiece.

1713
01:31:36.520 --> 01:31:38.640
So I'm upstairs and most of the crews in the

1714
01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:43.279
basement prepping it for filming, and as I'm like walking up,

1715
01:31:43.279 --> 01:31:45.960
I'm getting asked makeup questions. And then there's a knock

1716
01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:49.399
on Chandra's door and she's upstairs or something, so I

1717
01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:52.560
just answer it and there's just a twelve year old

1718
01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:55.039
boy or eleven year old boy standing in front of

1719
01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:58.800
the at the door in a suit coat with a

1720
01:31:58.840 --> 01:32:02.680
white button up shirt, collared shirt with an untied tie

1721
01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:08.399
around his neck and he just goes, does anybody happen

1722
01:32:08.439 --> 01:32:11.159
to know how to tie a tie? And I look

1723
01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:13.640
around and behind him there's just his mom is just

1724
01:32:13.680 --> 01:32:15.720
like sitting in a mini van and she's just kind

1725
01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:21.760
of watching whatever. And I literally just went, uh, come here,

1726
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:24.880
and I just tied his tie and like said that

1727
01:32:24.920 --> 01:32:26.159
not I was like, and he was like thank you know.

1728
01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:27.359
I was like, have a good day, and I closed

1729
01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:29.239
the door and I went right back to work. And

1730
01:32:29.359 --> 01:32:33.000
it was later that day in the evening that that

1731
01:32:33.079 --> 01:32:35.279
it came up and I was like, yeah, this and this,

1732
01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:36.760
and they were like, that's really weird. I was like,

1733
01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:38.560
I guess it is. I was really just in the

1734
01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:41.359
zone like that's but that's how it is. Like I

1735
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:43.479
didn't even question. I just went, yeah, I'll solve this problem.

1736
01:32:43.479 --> 01:32:45.439
To I was just like, my job is to solve

1737
01:32:45.479 --> 01:32:47.520
every problem that ever existed, So I'll solve this one too.

1738
01:32:49.479 --> 01:32:51.960
But yeah, that's like, that's like, that's a thing. I

1739
01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:54.520
thought about putting that in like a movie or something,

1740
01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:55.840
and I was like, no one, I'll ever believe it.

1741
01:32:55.840 --> 01:33:00.319
And it really happened. So but to get back to

1742
01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:05.680
the film, after they get the shot and they get down,

1743
01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:10.520
my favorite last touch is everybody is like celebrating together

1744
01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:14.239
and they're all clearly better friends. And then there's just

1745
01:33:14.279 --> 01:33:18.840
this beautiful, wholesome, wonderful shot of just Takayuki and his

1746
01:33:18.920 --> 01:33:23.720
daughter looking at each other and smiling. Yeah, and it ends. Yeah,

1747
01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:25.560
And you know what I always say, You know a

1748
01:33:25.600 --> 01:33:27.800
lot about a movie by when it chooses to end.

1749
01:33:28.079 --> 01:33:29.680
So that movie was about love.

1750
01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:31.880
Yeah, Yeah, that's.

1751
01:33:31.680 --> 01:33:37.439
All That movie was about, one beautiful, bloody, diarrhea ridden love.

1752
01:33:39.520 --> 01:33:44.800
Yeah. And that's why I love it because it's multi layered.

1753
01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:48.600
It's it's about love for family, it's about love for

1754
01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:52.119
your friends, it's about love for cinema, it's about love

1755
01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:55.680
for your art. You know, it's it's just all in there.

1756
01:33:55.800 --> 01:33:58.399
I always took it as you should do all things

1757
01:33:58.439 --> 01:34:02.279
with love absolute. That that was the message I got

1758
01:34:02.319 --> 01:34:07.079
from it. Yeah, it's rare, it's rare that a movie

1759
01:34:07.239 --> 01:34:12.399
captures to me what I feel like being creative or

1760
01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:17.439
being whatever is. It's why I'm obsessed with that movie

1761
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:20.359
Eddie Presley. Yeah, it's a movie about an Elvis in

1762
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:22.159
person here, but I think it's actually just a movie

1763
01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:27.000
about what it's like to have a to have a

1764
01:34:28.760 --> 01:34:33.680
burning rock in the middle of your chest, for something

1765
01:34:33.680 --> 01:34:38.720
to have, like a all encompassing passion for creating that

1766
01:34:38.760 --> 01:34:42.279
you have to let out. And the best part about

1767
01:34:42.359 --> 01:34:44.359
Eddie Presley not a horror movie, but it's a phenomenal

1768
01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:49.399
movie is being good at it. Be damned, it doesn't matter.

1769
01:34:49.560 --> 01:34:51.680
Eddie's actually not that good of an Elvis in personare

1770
01:34:51.720 --> 01:34:53.680
because the movie is not about him becoming successful. The

1771
01:34:53.720 --> 01:34:56.880
movie's about him existing in a world where he has

1772
01:34:56.960 --> 01:35:01.000
to do his tribute to Elvis or he just isn't alive.

1773
01:35:02.199 --> 01:35:04.520
And that's why that movie is stuck with me forever,

1774
01:35:04.600 --> 01:35:06.319
because it's like, that's what it's like to have that

1775
01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:10.199
song in you and you have to get it out.

1776
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:15.359
Is the way that movie depicts being a creative person

1777
01:35:15.399 --> 01:35:17.319
and being in the world and trying to find your

1778
01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:21.800
way and all that shit. But we're gonna take a

1779
01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:24.680
break and we'll wrap up our thoughts on One Cut

1780
01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:28.640
of the Dead. What an episode. I'm happy with it,

1781
01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:30.840
But we'll talk all about that and wrap things up

1782
01:35:31.199 --> 01:35:46.239
right after this. As we wrap up this very special

1783
01:35:46.279 --> 01:35:49.520
episode about One Cut of the Dead, I hope anybody

1784
01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:53.119
who's been listening this far in is desperate to watch

1785
01:35:53.159 --> 01:35:56.439
it if they haven't seen it, or desperate to rewatch it.

1786
01:35:56.439 --> 01:35:59.479
It really is just a It's a great film and

1787
01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:02.840
a really special movie in my in my heart. When

1788
01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:05.199
I rewatched it with you recently, I was like, holy crap,

1789
01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:09.479
I forgot just how much I love every second.

1790
01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:12.520
It really is, like every second of it is just

1791
01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:14.039
absolutely delightful.

1792
01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:19.039
I had heard that they were doing a one cut.

1793
01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:21.920
There wasn't a remake, was there. Yeah there's a remake.

1794
01:36:22.239 --> 01:36:24.199
Yeah there was a there was a remake.

1795
01:36:24.680 --> 01:36:26.279
Did it come out there?

1796
01:36:26.359 --> 01:36:28.520
Yeah, there's a sequel one cut of the Dead spin

1797
01:36:28.560 --> 01:36:30.600
off in Hollywood.

1798
01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:34.960
Oh, I mean this is a it's a what's it?

1799
01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:37.920
Can we call? It's a final cut? Is the name?

1800
01:36:38.920 --> 01:36:39.640
It's a remake?

1801
01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:42.880
Oh? Oh okay, I'm looking at it now. Okay, French

1802
01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:45.039
language remake titled Final Cut.

1803
01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:47.640
Oh, they have a trailer and everything. I I mean,

1804
01:36:47.720 --> 01:36:50.039
I might I don't think it's gonna I just don't

1805
01:36:50.039 --> 01:36:53.960
think it could be as good. Yeah, yeah, but you

1806
01:36:53.960 --> 01:36:56.840
know whatever, I'm not here to be negative. I'm here

1807
01:36:56.880 --> 01:37:00.880
to be angry. No, but yeah, So, I mean, if

1808
01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:05.039
there's anything you left to say, it's yours. I've said

1809
01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:06.640
so much, so damn much.

1810
01:37:07.359 --> 01:37:10.560
Well, I just want to say. I know that some

1811
01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:14.119
of the films that we've covered are a little bit

1812
01:37:14.319 --> 01:37:17.239
you know, tougher to get through, but I do want

1813
01:37:17.279 --> 01:37:21.840
to encourage our audience members, like, this is very lighthearted,

1814
01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:26.199
it's very fun. You really should give this a chance.

1815
01:37:27.199 --> 01:37:29.800
Yeah, come on, come on, come on.

1816
01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:33.840
Don't don't let the subtitles scare you.

1817
01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:35.600
No, I mean, well, it's not that scary of a movie.

1818
01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:39.640
Hey yeah, but uh yeah, a phenomenal movie. I can't

1819
01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:42.000
recommend it enough. Makes me cry like a baby every.

1820
01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:44.119
Time, every single time. I can't think about it too

1821
01:37:44.159 --> 01:37:45.079
much without them right.

1822
01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:46.359
Oh yeah. I mean I'm that way with the end

1823
01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:49.119
of plane screens and automobiles as well. But I like

1824
01:37:49.159 --> 01:37:51.279
to cry at movies. I think it's uh, it's what

1825
01:37:51.279 --> 01:37:55.039
they're for. It is so But without all that being said, yeah,

1826
01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:58.239
one cut of the dead. So before we get out

1827
01:37:58.279 --> 01:38:04.079
of here because I'm tired and hungry. Hmm and uh stuff,

1828
01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:06.840
what are we going to be talking about next time?

1829
01:38:07.840 --> 01:38:13.039
Well, you actually brought this movie up. I think it

1830
01:38:13.119 --> 01:38:17.720
was in our last show. Okay, we're going to be

1831
01:38:17.760 --> 01:38:18.600
doing Cloverfield.

1832
01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:22.520
Oh yeah, I'll be curious because I've only seen it

1833
01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:25.079
like once or twice, and that was a long time.

1834
01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:27.359
Ago, and it was it was the one that really

1835
01:38:27.399 --> 01:38:30.960
got me into found footage. So like, I'm excited to

1836
01:38:31.039 --> 01:38:34.560
revisit it because I've watched it so not so much

1837
01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:36.279
that I can fall asleep during it.

1838
01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:38.960
I I mean, I could fall asleep during anything if

1839
01:38:38.960 --> 01:38:41.600
I'm tired. But you know, it was fair fair enough.

1840
01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:44.600
Well that's not much of a brag for me anymore.

1841
01:38:44.680 --> 01:38:46.560
But yeah, I was gonna bring that up. I was

1842
01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:49.119
gonna let that one slide. But no, I'm curious to

1843
01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:51.720
rewatch it. I always was like modest. I was like

1844
01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:54.359
medium whelmed by it when I saw it the first time.

1845
01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:57.039
That's medium, Well medium whelmed. But I mean, but like

1846
01:38:57.039 --> 01:38:59.319
I said, a ten Cloverfield Lane, phenomenal movie.

1847
01:38:59.359 --> 01:39:02.880
Oh yes, it's got bits, But no.

1848
01:39:02.800 --> 01:39:06.279
I'm sorry, I'm excited to revisit Cloverfield. And then we'll

1849
01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:09.560
talk all about it very soon right here on cutting

1850
01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:10.399
deep into horror.

1851
01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:11.760
Yeah.

1852
01:39:11.920 --> 01:39:13.760
So, and I want to remind you, guys if you

1853
01:39:13.800 --> 01:39:16.279
want to email us to recommend a movie, or comment

1854
01:39:16.319 --> 01:39:19.239
on something you've said, or point and laugh at me crying,

1855
01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:21.760
or whatever it may be. Our email address is Weekly

1856
01:39:21.960 --> 01:39:26.960
Spooky at gmail dot com and we would absolutely love

1857
01:39:27.439 --> 01:39:30.640
to hear from you, so please send us an email.

1858
01:39:30.960 --> 01:39:34.279
We're so lonely, so very lonely.

1859
01:39:34.520 --> 01:39:35.680
Yeah.

1860
01:39:36.119 --> 01:39:38.680
Also, I want to mention, since I just finished recording it,

1861
01:39:38.720 --> 01:39:42.800
that this Monday, coming Monday, we have a very awesome

1862
01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:48.000
episode of Terrifying and True about the Fox Sisters, a

1863
01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:52.119
two kids who grew into adults and basically launched the

1864
01:39:52.279 --> 01:39:57.199
entire American spiritualist movement in the eighteen hundreds. Oh man, Okay,

1865
01:39:57.439 --> 01:40:03.159
that's a really fascinating story. Yeah, lots of twists and turns,

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lots of twists and turns. At one point, one of

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them recanted everything they did and then reversed on the recantment,

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And then there was a hoax of sorts where true believers,

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years after they died, came back to their house where

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they first discovered the haunting and possibly planted animal bones

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to try and make it look like there was indeed

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a dead person under their house. It's a wild story

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this Monday on Terrifying and True right here on Weekly Spooky.

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So make sure you are subscribed. But speaking of subscribed,

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that's the wrong button. But speaking of subscribed, still a

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bad segue. Thank you guys so much for listening cutting

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Deep in Horror. We'll be back very soon talking about

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Spooky is about to hit episode four hundred and it

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is going to be a doozy. But now I leave

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you with this. Keep rolling