April 27, 2026

Monthly Spooky | America’s Most Haunted Lake? Ghost Stories, Dark History & Bizarre Spooky News

Monthly Spooky | America’s Most Haunted Lake? Ghost Stories, Dark History & Bizarre Spooky News
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Lake Lanier’s haunted history takes center stage in this episode of Monthly Spooky, as we dive into one of America’s most infamous bodies of water: a man-made Georgia lake built over abandoned communities, graves, tragedy, folklore, and decades of eerie legends. Is Lake Lanier truly haunted, or is its chilling reputation the result of real history, preventable danger, and stories too disturbing to sink quietly beneath the surface?

Inside this episode:

• Lake Lanier’s dark origins — flooded towns, displaced communities, cemeteries, and the unsettling history behind one of the South’s most infamous lakes.
• The Lady of the Lake and ghostly legends — eerie apparitions, mysterious drownings, haunted water, and folklore that refuses to stay buried.
• Real danger beneath the ghost stories — boating accidents, disappearances, negligence, alcohol, safety concerns, and the tragic reality behind the lake’s reputation.
• Captain Dave’s haunted lake tour stories — local ghost lore, eerie sightings, and the strange appeal of Lake Lanier as a haunted destination.
• How folklore becomes reality — why places marked by tragedy often turn into legends, curses, and ghost stories.

Plus fresh spooky news:
• A haunted swingers club with paranormal investigators called in.
• Pluckley, England, the “most haunted village in Britain,” reportedly packed with ghosts.
• A hiker discovering a human skull in a remote California desert.
• Mysterious explosions and strange lights near Lake Ontario.
• A hot air balloon making an emergency backyard landing.
• A professional cornhole player arrested for murder.
• Strange space debris, meteor talk, and recent horror movie riffing.

Whether you’re here for ghost stories, haunted places, true crime, bizarre news, urban legends, dark history, or creepy comedy, this episode stands alone as a full spooky deep dive into the mysteries of Lake Lanier and the weirdest stories of the month.

So what do you think: is Lake Lanier cursed, haunted, dangerously misunderstood… or all of the above?

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A human skull found in the desert, Swingers get Haunted,

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mysterious explosions no one seems to be able to explain,

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and diving into the most haunted lake in America.

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Get comfortable, turn off the lights. It's monthly spooky.

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Welcome back, my spookies. It is indeed that time of

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the month. It's monthly spooky. I'm, of course your host

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Enrique Kuto here with my good buddy and co host Michelle. Michelle,

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how are you doing.

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I don't know. Do you want me to say bad?

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Like last time?

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I'm if it's true, I guess, Oh, I don't know.

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Maybe.

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I mean, on the plus side, you're very cold.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean that's always good.

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That's a win, right, Yeah.

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Sure.

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This has been one of the weirdest springs. I swear

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out here in Ohio we keep having like false false springs. Yeah,

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where you know, it gets to be seventy degrees and

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then like four days later it's like, oh, never mind,

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it's blow freezing at night. And it's funny because I've

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heard a lot of people because Ohio, I think most

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places love to think that they have the market cornered

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on unpredictable weather. Which is hilarious because weather is deeply unpredictable. Yeah,

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Like I've always had that saying. You know what they say,

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predicting the weather is kind of like predicting the weather,

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because I can't think of an example of something hard

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to predict other than the weather.

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Yeah.

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But so we hear a lot of people saying, you know, oh,

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that's Ohio for you, and I'm like, no, I've lived

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in Ohio the majority of my life. Two or three

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false springs is totally normal. But where where we got

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to be in the double digits at this point?

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Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. We don't call it false springs.

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What do you call them?

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We don't have a term for the that just is

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warm and then it's not warm.

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Wow, you really don't use the term full spring? No, huh,

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because that's like the perfect term for it, full spring.

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Yeah yeah, but no, this is spring, just the weird,

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the weird thing.

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It's just a cold spring.

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No, It's just it's doing its thing. It's weird thing

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where sometimes it's really hot and sometimes it's really cold,

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I mean more so than usual. But that's I don't

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have any I don't have any way to describe it.

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Except for that.

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Wow, you guys are really lively with your you know,

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trying to uh decode the mysteries of life. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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that's bad job you guys did. It's pretty bad job.

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I mean, I'm just I'm just telling you. But it's

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been really weird. Like it was super warm when I

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went to Columbus for the Oddities Expo, and then I

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get there and all of a sudden's like, actually at night,

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it's gonna be like forty three degrees yeah, and I'm like,

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oh cool, I don't even have a jacket, Like it's

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it's really that's that's a bit colder than I was

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prepared for. So it's it's been interesting. Now it's been

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fun because and this is okay. So this is why

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I truly noticed, like we don't have this many false springs.

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You should just start using it over there to make

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it happen for you, guys.

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I don't want it.

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I'm just trying to help. You don't want any help

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if it comes from Ohio. Yes, exactly, the concept of Ohio,

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not because I'm in Ohio. Yeah, I know, I know,

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I don't know why. All we want to do is

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help you.

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All aways say that. But every time I take in

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Ohio's advice on something, something really tragic happens.

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Can you name one example, Remember.

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That time where I like everything exploded that one time.

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Like everything in the universe.

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Yeah you don't, Yeah, you don't remember that. It's okay

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because I fixed everything afterwards.

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Okay, Fine, That one, I guess is a is a

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good example. Yeah, geez. But the thing that's really made

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me realize, like, wow, we just keep tipping the temperatures

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is usually maybe a couple of times a year I

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will have to, like in the same week, run my

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air and run my heat. But you know, I try

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to resist it. We all do, you know. We all

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try to be like I'm not turning on the air

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conditioning until lah, or I'm not turning on the heat

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until lah. We all kind of pull that. But like

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I just it's normal. I just look at the weather

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report at night and decide which thing I need to

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set my system for before I go to bed. Wow,

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because I'll be like, oh, it's gonna get really really cold, huh,

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like really cold. I guess I should have the heat

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on in case the house gets that cold, you know.

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But it's also been nice because I'm I can be

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pretty frugal. I'm not like you, like you'll just you'll

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literally just be like I will die and then you

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do this to save money. Yeah, but but I will

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be like, ooh, you know, the low is gonna be

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forty eight. I doubt the house will even get that,

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you know, probably the house will probably only get to

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about sixty degrees internally. So I'm gonna see if I

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can like not heat it so that the house will

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stay cool when the when it gets warm outside again,

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like I'm trying to like ride the temperatures.

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Yeah, and that's one thing. Like today, like the heat

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won't come on because it's not that cold, but the

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air conditioning will not come on either. So I'm like, yeah,

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I'm saving.

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Money, yeah a little bit.

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Yeah, I was. I was introducing Rachel to Extreme Cheapskates.

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She'd never seen an episode of Extreme cheap Skates. Have

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you ever watched that?

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No?

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Oh, you'd love it. You'd love it because it's not

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just people who like to save money, but they're mentally

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ill for it. Yeah, so it's pretty fun. But she

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had just never seen anything like this. I mean people,

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you know, flossing with their own hair to not spend

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money on dental floss and stuff. Huh. Really, there's a

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lot of weird stuff in there. And it was funny

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because I was talking to my mother about that, because

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she taught me how to be cheap and then she

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claims I'm cheaper than her, But she taught me how

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to be cheap. And there was one guy who like,

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he was like, weather stripping saves you know, a ton

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of money in the house. So I made my own

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and it's like plastic bags, like you know, grocery bags.

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He's like stuffed into the corners. And my mom was

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just like, what the hell, Like weather stripping cast like

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nine dollars and it'll do a better job and look better.

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Like there's no downside, It's just not a lot of money,

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Like it really isn't.

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I think it depends on how how poor you are,

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because my skins are poor.

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That's not the way that works. Fine, that's no. That's

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the definition of a cheap skin is they have like

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a job and they make regular money and they just

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will not part with it. Okay, So no, no, I agree,

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Like there's a point. But when I was growing up, Like,

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my mother's attitude was always like if this really janky

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solution that's cheap, doesn't look horrible and won't fail all

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the time, then we'll do it, you know, Like she

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wouldn't duct tape something if we could, if there was

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some way to fix it properly, unless it was out

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of sight, then it was like that's fine, you know,

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like then we'll you know, oh, it's the back of

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the couch, just tape it and be done. Like but

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if it was the front door, she would be like,

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I'm gonna go, I'm gonna figure out how to get

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some wood putty and just fix it, because then it'll

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actually be fixed. I won't have to see how pathetic

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my existence is every time I look at it. Yeah,

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that kind of thing. So that's that's kind of like

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the line that they're not quite they're not quite walking

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as much. And the best part about that show is

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it's not like Hoarders or something where they have a

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therapist come in. These people love being cheap, like this

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is their hobby. The favorite thing. So oh man, my

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favorite was the guy who went on a first date.

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So we went to a funeral parlor to get flowers

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from the trash. Wow. Yeah. And then and then you

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would love it because it was in New York City.

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So he's at like a bakery and he's taking free

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samples of little tiny muffins, but he just keeps taking

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more and more, and this old lady who doesn't work there,

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is like, stop it, stop it. You've had enough, you

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have enough, leave some wo and the best person guys

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like just like no, they're free, and he just keeps

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taking you anyway. This old lady's like stop it. And

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then this other guy is just kind of like why

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are you what is what do you need? All these

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buffet where he's like, I've got a date tonight. He's like, oh,

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I'm sure it's gonna go great. And I was like, God,

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that made that. That is the only time in my

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life I've ever missed being in New York. Yeah, like, oh,

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I would love to have been the fourth person. Yeah,

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but uh it. But it's funny because yeah, the sheer

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amount people will work to save things, save money, like

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filling your refrigerator with clothes in order to make the

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bill less hmm. But also to clean your jeans because

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you can freeze jeans to clean them.

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But that one takes the dirt off of them.

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Well, no to like clean them as far as like

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if they're dirty from like were like the smelling pad

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and stuff, it like disinfects them because a lot of genes,

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you're not supposed to wash them. You're actually supposed to

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freeze them because it makes the makes the denim last

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longer or something. So, but like stuff like that. Collecting water,

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that's the one that always blows my mind, is like

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they'll collect like rain water and stud of the like

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is expensive and like I'm pretty sure I saved like

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two hundred dollars a year, and I'm like, dude, you

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probably my most use My water bill was like one

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hundred and sixty dollars in a quarter. And that's like

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doing everything without trying to save, Like you're not saving

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two hundred dollars a year by not drinking the water

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that comes to your house. I'm sorry.

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So where's the water coming from?

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The rain or creak? One guy built a thing to

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filter the water. Wow. I watched one lady her husband

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built their own breast pump for their baby out of

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like stuff from the junkyard.

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I know, I know, dude, I like these people.

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You might like the you watch it on YouTube, you should,

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you should, you should give it. It's their twenty minute

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shows too, so they're perfect for all you're eating lunch

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and want to feel bad about the world, but superior

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in a way.

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I don't want to feel superior. I think it's cool.

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Well that's some of them are pretty cool. But then

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there are stuff like, you know, an they're helping is

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her daughter get married and then like taking her to

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a wedding venue covered in like rat feces, and her

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crying because her mom just doesn't care to spend money

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to make her happy.

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I don't understand the context.

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There's a wedding and she shows her the venue and

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it's just horrible. It's like disgusting and oh oh and yeah,

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and she just cries because like her mom just doesn't care.

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funny ones like one guy he collects little coffee creamers

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at the grocery store or at the diners and stuff.

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He collects those and then fills a water like old

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water bottle with him and just has his kids shake

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them to make butter so they never buy butter. That

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one was pretty clever because like one of the kids

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is like, I don't know, I'm just used to it.

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just shake this while I'm talking everybody. She's like, and

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the butter tastes really good. I was like, Okay, that

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one's pretty good. That's a good way to save some money.

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of water because his kids want water, bottled water. I

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guess he refills them and then uses clear coat nail

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polish to make them sound like they're sealed, like they crack.

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Oh wow, And the best parties he's like, they don't notice,

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and I save money. And then all and then all

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the kids are like we there's we know that those

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are not actual bottles of water, Like we know, like

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we're not fooled in the least. And it's like kids

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that are like five and six, and then the kids

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who've already left to college, there's like, yeah, we know,

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we absolutely know it's not the same at all. And

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all I could think was, man, when I was a kid,

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we just do it. Was like I want bottled water.

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It was like no, like there's a tap right there,

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like drink that. Yeah, deal with it. So but that's

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been a fun distraction. I have no idea why I

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brought that up. Oh it was because of the powers

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of the saving electronics. Oh oh yeah, oh yeah. So

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as we're watching it, like and we're seeing like these

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disgusting things. There's one lady who eats cat food instead

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of tuna because she realized it was cheaper, and then

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she like makes tune a salad out of it and stuff.

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Wow, it's not much cheaper.

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No, it's not much cheaper, at least not back then.

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But yeah, but uh, but every time something would discuss Rachel,

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I would just lean in and go, See, all I

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do is ask you to shut the light off in

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your workshop. You see that. All I ask you to

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do is do a full load of laundry at a time.

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I'm very reasonable. I've just see that. I just asked

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you to weather strip a door with me. I'm not

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that bad. So anyhow, we're gonna take a quick break

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and we'll be back with the spooky news. But I

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want to mention our as Tea's last month. Our topic

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for this month is Lake Ranier out in Georgia, considered

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possibly one of the most haunted lakes in America, maybe

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even the world. So we'll be talking about that, but

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we'll come back with the spooky news because we've got

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some doozies in the last month or so to share

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with you right after this welcome back. I'm very excited

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to talk about these stories, these news stories, because there's

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never a shortage of them. I'm starting to really realize

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that now that we do the show every month, there's

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plenty to have. So let's dive in to the spooky.

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News, the spooky news.

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So this one is from our good friends at Mirror

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dot co dot uk and this headline alone, this was perfect.

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So and Shell, I think you'll really like this one

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because it involves two things you're definitely familiar with. The

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headline reads builders spooked at Swingers Club as paranormal activity

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reported during renovation work.

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That's so many things, right, Yeah.

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An adult nightclub that formerly housed a bank has become

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the focus of an eerie investigation. The alternative venue, featuring

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a relaxed bar area and a bondage dungeon, is reported

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to have a horrible atmosphere. These are all those three words,

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like in one sentence.

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We're all in quotes that's so weird.

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Horrible atmosphere in certain sections, which emerged following recent refurbishment work.

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Paranormal investigators and ghost hunting specialists arrived at Vault seventy

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two in Plymouth, Devon after the proprietor reported quote things

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happening when a connecting wall to neighboring premises was breached.

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Oh is that because those people now have to deal

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with all your weird stuff going on?

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Or is it because you like their ghosts snuck into

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your place?

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Because maybe yeah, yeah, A.

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Doorway links two separate structures, Vault seventy two, previously a

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bank and a long abandoned residential building where a family

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vanished from the records.

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Oh, I guess it probably just went somewhere else, Like.

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Yes, nobody wrote it down because they forgot yeah. Quote.

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Ever since we knocked through that wall, said nightclub owner

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Andreas Strossiatis, things started happening. I think I think we're

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onto something the ghosts from that place, which I love

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the idea. It's like, well, look, ghosts can't go through

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three quarter inch drywall. They just can't.

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Well it's a firewall probably, so it's like also a ghost.

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Wall is that. Like. One of the things you've learned

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inspecting is like this is this is a ghost rated firewall.

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Uh huh like And because ghosts can normally they can

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even go to different houses if they want, but not

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through a ghost raighted firewall.

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You just have to hope the ghost doesn't figure out

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if you go out the front door and then a

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crossing through your front door.

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Sometimes sometimes they're smart like that, but not all of them.

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So unfortunately, ghosts can't leave the premises unless it's a

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loophole like you share a doorway. M hmmm, I don't know.

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Recent refurbishment of the property is believed to have triggered

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a disturbance. There's so many air quotes, quotes. Employees and

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construction workers have shared accounts of doors opening independently, alongside

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a sensation of dread on the upper floor. Perhaps the

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most disturbing.

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Of all, what is happening?

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I don't know? Of all, a brick was thrown at

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a builder.

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Wow?

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Why is that a quote? While work was underway breaking

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through the mysterious sealed doorway as the nightclub owner your

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busy expansion. The worst are wanted single words in quotes,

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because that's when it because I get like, maybe thrown

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at a builder is because somebody claimed that, but like

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mysterious disturbance, What the hell is happening?

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I assume I guess the person who wrote this does

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not believe any of it, so they're just like, eh

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or something.

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Yeah, I don't know. Quote, Ever since we knocked through

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that wall, said nightclub owner Andreas Dressiatis, things started happening.

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Wait did I already read that? Sorry, I already read

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that part. At least they said his name, Okay, quote

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we plan to join the two buildings to create a new,

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bigger venue. But something like that, something doesn't like what

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we're doing. Andrea said, So they're going to combine the buildings, which,

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first of all, mozeltov to them for having such a

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successful swing club that they can expand into an abandoned

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apartment building. Yeah, and what a great way for people

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to find out about your kink club. Like you're sitting

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there reading it in front of your wife and be like, oh, yeah,

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there's a ghost or something. Isn't that spooky? And then

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just like highlight the address. But but so apparently they're

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claiming now it's more like that the ghosts became aware

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it's going to be a single building now, so like, oh,

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we're allowed over there. If they're under the same ownership,

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then like that's yeah, that's different. The austices have changed.

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Well, I mean, it's also possible that the ghosts weren't

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aware of the other building. I don't know.

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Possible, I don't know. On Tuesday, March thirty first, a

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team of paranormal investigators from Shadow Tour Paranormal, who've explored

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numerous sites through Devon and Cornwall, visited the well known

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venue to discover what other worldly activity they might encounter,

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and things turned decidedly weird.

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Yeah.

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Vault seventy two is Plymouth's premiere alternative LGBTQ plus friendly

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bar with a passion for kink. According to their website,

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the establishment serves as a quote social hub for like

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minded people who are open to exploring alternative lifestyles. Once

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a bank many years ago, the walls remain sheet metal

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dotted with rivets, while the original bank vault door, manufactured

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by Chubb London, still stands as a testament to the

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building's most formal past. Chubb London. That's a good name

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for a company.

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But also like, this is a lot of information that

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feels like why are we.

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What because they're always advertising to us. Basically, I guess, yeah, quote,

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this is one of the most unusual places we've had

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to ghost hunt, said Matt bear Clark from Shadow Tor Paranormal.

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There's a sex dungeon. They bleaked out sex. That's not

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that's not an offensive term.

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It's it's because of like places like TikTok and stuff,

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where like you can't say certain words or you get

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like hidden I guess.

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Or you can't say them in the first five or

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six seconds minimum. Like sometimes it's entirely now because when

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I do my TikTok posts and stuff, I sometimes get

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so fucking frustrated by the amount of baby talk you

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have to use to talk about anything grown up. Yeah,

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that's why I try not to do true crime on

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there anymore, because it's just impossible. I try to only

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do like folklore because I did one once and at

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the end when I plugged Weekly Spooky, I was like,

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make sure to check out the full episode of Weekly

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Spooky where I can talk to you like adults, because

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I got so ticked off.

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Yeah, it's it's weird because because of that, and I

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think it's also like a Twitter x thing as well.

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I'm not sure, maybe I'm wrong, it's not, it's it's

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a bunch of them. But anyway, it's gotten weird. So

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in articles like this, you have people, you know, not

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putting the entire word sex, but it happens on like

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Reddit too, and then people get really angry because it's like,

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why are you censoring sex? Or killed yourselves.

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Yeah, unlived self delete?

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Yeah, or pedophile but you just put pdf.

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File yep, yep, yeah. Quote there's a sex dungeon for

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a start. Matt, commonly referred to as Bear, has operated

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shadow Tor Paranormal for several years, hosting regular investigations at

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sites in Cornwall and Devon. Quote. We've got paranormal tech devices,

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new and old cameras set up. Bear outlined while at

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the premises on thirty first of March. Quote there's even

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a plan to do a group seance later on, which

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could be interesting. Bear was accompanied by author Jonathan Bokes

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and four Bear Paranormal. Weird. He's called Bear, but then

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there's another place called four Bears Paranormal. Yeah he's no,

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he's not, apparently not, but they're cool with each other.

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Who've also examined many of Devon and Cornwall venues for

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supernatural phenomena. As the investigators moved through the club and

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down the connecting passageway, they described a quote distinct change

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of atmosphere and appearance. Oh, almost like it's a different building. Huh.

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That was always a different building because it was just

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a housing project first. Yeah, of some sort. They observed

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the old forgotten it's in quotes forgotten house adjoining seventy

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two has been quote reduced to its bare bones as

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the place undergoes a transformation. Yeah, that's that's how renovations work.

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That's how you do it.

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Becky Chapman of Four Bears Paranormal said, quote it's a

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great place, a really impressive old building, loads of characters,

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such as the old fireplaces and the original stairs.

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I guess we're trying to sell it now as well.

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I guess, but they already bought it.

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Maybe now they're not so sure, so they're gonna sell it.

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The striking staircase indeed spirals up four stories from the

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distinctly unsettling sellar to the uppermost attic chambers formerly occupied

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by domestic staff. Yeah, well it has to be a

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big house to share a wall or whatever with a bank.

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It would have to be big, it could be.

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Why would it have to be big.

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So it could fit in that space? Like it would

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look out of place if it was a tiny little

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house next to big business buildings.

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That sometimes it happens, I don't think.

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So, I'm gonna call cap on that. I don't believe you.

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Elaborate cast iron fireplaces remain as echoes of grander days

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and the occupants who inhabited the historic property in bygone times.

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Andreas revealed a disconcerting detail about the abandoned dwelling quote,

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it's had a strange history. There was a family here

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after it was built, and they vanished from the records.

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Then it was owned by the council until it was

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rented by the bank. Oh, it's got to be a

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big house of Wait, was it ever a part of

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the bank. That's confusing. It was part of or the

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bank bought it because it was adjoining and was using

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it for something. I don't know. Clearly, they still they

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didn't have like the walls were shared, but they didn't

459
00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:31.160
have like a pathway. Apparently evidence of previous previous inhabitants

460
00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:34.599
became apparent as the team investigated further, uncovering fragments of

461
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:40.519
vintage wallpaper and concealed painted lettering lurking within voids and plasterwork.

462
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:49.119
Oh well, guess quote, the basement is horrible, said Jonathan Bokes.

463
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:51.680
I spent a good half an hour down there, feeling

464
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:56.920
quite quite comfortable until my light pole went off. Light pole, Okay,

465
00:25:57.720 --> 00:25:59.079
I thought they called them torches.

466
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:01.240
They do. I don't know what a light pole.

467
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.720
Oh, it's just a stick light. It's like the long

468
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:07.279
tube light that you hold. Oh I would just call

469
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:09.039
that a flashlight.

470
00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:10.519
Yeah, me too.

471
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:14.759
Quote. It had decent power when I went down to

472
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:17.680
the basement, but it just switched off. That's not a

473
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:20.680
comfortable feeling, being lost in the pitch black.

474
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:24.559
That's why you should bring another light pole just in case.

475
00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:27.160
Yeah, always be a two light pole person.

476
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:28.240
Yeah.

477
00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:32.839
Further technical difficulties and battery depletion persisted throughout the evening,

478
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:36.799
leaving the team questioning whether something or someone was quote

479
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:42.079
interfering with their equipment. At one stage, the team detected

480
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:46.880
heavy footsteps on the old stairs, initially assuming Andreas was

481
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:50.440
approaching to check on their well being, yet nobody was present.

482
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:53.440
Harsh statement about Andrea. He did not give a crap

483
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:59.799
if they were alive or dead. Sorry about you, Becky.

484
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.000
Quote it was at least six steps coming in from

485
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:05.480
the stairs down below. I thought it was a person

486
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:08.759
until I looked Forbear's paranormal deployed an array of ghost

487
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:13.160
hunting equipment, instruments capable of detecting atmosphere changes, and spirit

488
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:20.960
box radios, which quote mutter occasional words and phrases. Well,

489
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:22.359
I thought you always had something to say about the

490
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:22.960
spirit box.

491
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.880
No, No, they were right. They do mutter occasional words

492
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.599
and phrases. I mean, that's that's what happens.

493
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:36.119
Andreas remains quote open minded about the ghosts and spirits

494
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:39.079
that may dwell in his club, provided they leave him

495
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:44.519
and his patrons in peace. He's happy to coexist, he said,

496
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:46.880
quote I don't know what the ghosts make of our club,

497
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.440
but I'm sure some of them enjoy it. Maybe they

498
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:50.680
just want to have some fun.

499
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.640
Maybe maybe they're just interested.

500
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:57.839
Yeah, maybe they're just perverts. Yeah, perverts.

501
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:04.000
Finally finally do what they always wanted to exactly.

502
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.519
Well, we're gonna take a quick break, and when we

503
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.880
get back, we're going to talk about one of the

504
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:24.400
world's oldest animals right after this, Well we're back, and Michelle,

505
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:28.960
what this article from Huffington Post, I'm pretty sure is

506
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:30.160
talking directly to you.

507
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:33.559
I mean most of them are.

508
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.160
That's true. But most of them are telling you to

509
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.880
like shoot Gerald Ford or something. They're not telling you

510
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:39.720
anything useful.

511
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.920
Oh but I thought they were useful.

512
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:48.240
This headline reads, don't believe the rumors. The world's oldest

513
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.359
tortoise is very much alive.

514
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:52.400
I knew about this.

515
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:55.759
Oh yeah you did.

516
00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:57.759
Yeah, I knew he's alive.

517
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:01.119
I feel like I remember, like five or six years

518
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:02.079
ago hearing he was dead.

519
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.440
Oh I heard recently that he was alive, but I

520
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:06.799
didn't hear that he was dead.

521
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.240
So because there were Because I remember on Facebook somebody

522
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:13.319
had shared like how sad they were the world's oldest

523
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:15.880
tortoise had died, and I commented, said, it is sad,

524
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.000
but on the other side, that tortoise was really racist,

525
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:25.599
really real. That was my joke to it. Reports of

526
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.960
the death of the world's oldest living land animal and

527
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:31.400
nearly two hundred year old tortoise were greatly exaggerated.

528
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:33.799
He just was asleep.

529
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:35.519
Yes, I was gonna say I mean, if he's not

530
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:40.359
dead that that I guess that is an exaggeration. Jonathan

531
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.039
believed to be one hundred and ninety three. Okay, so

532
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:44.000
how do we even know.

533
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.720
That because we've been keeping an eye on him for

534
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:49.319
one hundred and ninety three years.

535
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:51.880
Well, it's believed to be one hundred and ninety three.

536
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:54.160
So I bet like we started like fifty eight years ago,

537
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:56.960
that would be my guess. Hmmm maybe, But I mean

538
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:02.279
I could be wrong. It's happened once before. Jonathan believed

539
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.240
he won nine ninety three years old, is still kicking,

540
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:09.119
albeit slowly, on the island of Saint Helena. Quote it

541
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:12.599
was a hoax. Annie Dylan, head of communications on the island,

542
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:16.359
told the Associated Press on Thursday about his alleged passing.

543
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:19.119
I don't have all those details. I can just assure

544
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.000
you that he is very much alive. Oh man. It's like,

545
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.279
we're not going to show him to you. We're not

546
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:26.480
going to show him to you, we're not going to

547
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.200
show you any photos. We're not gonna do anything to

548
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:30.200
prove it. But he's fine.

549
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.920
He's fine, he's fine. Or they bring him out and

550
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:34.759
it's like a weekend at Bernie's thing.

551
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:40.839
Oh weekend at whatever this tortoise's name is. Yeah, it

552
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:41.640
doesn't have a name, does.

553
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.680
He he does? Yeah, he has like a like a Jonathan.

554
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:48.240
Yeah, yeah, Jonathan weekend at Jonathan's.

555
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:49.319
Yeah.

556
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.720
News of the tortoise's demise spread rapidly on social media

557
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:54.160
on April Fool's Day.

558
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:55.359
Oh there you go.

559
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:58.480
I think the tortoise I was thinking of was one

560
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:01.440
that was like in an American zoo. Oh not like

561
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.240
not one hundred ninet three year old, but very old.

562
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:04.960
I think that might have been what I was thinking of.

563
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:08.359
An account on x falsely claiming to be that of

564
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.400
Joe Hollands, a veterinarian who had worked with the reptile

565
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:13.799
on the West Island, on the island of West Africa

566
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.960
in the South Atlantic Ocean, said he was heartbroken to

567
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:22.160
announce the death of the quote gentle giant that outlived empires, wars,

568
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:28.839
and generations of humans. The post quickly accumulated nearly two

569
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:33.680
million views through Thursday, mostly in outpouring of condolences, but

570
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.400
Hollands later said on Facebook that he didn't even have

571
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:42.680
an ex account, and something more sinister was afoot. Oh sinister,

572
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:44.440
I like if it's a prank or a hoax. That's

573
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.599
sinister though h yeah, do you have any idea the

574
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.000
amount of people who will die because people think Jonathan

575
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:53.920
the tortoise is gone. Quote there is a hoax, not

576
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:57.759
even in April, fool going around, Hollands wrote. Quote. The

577
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:01.160
hoaxer is asking for Oh oh, it is a scam.

578
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:03.599
The hoaxers asking for crypto donations.

579
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.759
Oh why not gift cards?

580
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.519
What the hell? I guess we're too good for Google

581
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:11.400
play cards now.

582
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:12.039
Yeah.

583
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:20.640
Guinness World Records lists Jonathan A. Cycles Schile's Sakell's Sekell's

584
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.759
giant tortoise as the oldest living land animal and oldest

585
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:28.200
tortoise ever. He was believed to be around fifty years

586
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.480
old when he was brought to Saint Helena in eighteen

587
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:31.039
eighty two.

588
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:33.440
So it's longer than you thoughts.

589
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:40.039
Yeah, only a little, yeah, Dylan said. The tortoise was

590
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.880
still roaming the grounds of the Governor's residence on the island,

591
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:46.759
best known as the place Napoleon Bonaparte was exiled following

592
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.599
his defeat by the British at Waterloo in eighteen fifteen.

593
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:55.880
Yay Bonaparte died there in eighteen twenty one, about a

594
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.640
decade before Jonathan is believed to have taken his first

595
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:04.200
steps in what would be a very long life. Way

596
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:10.720
to go, tortoise, Yeah, way to still be alive. Yeah,

597
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.799
I was not. My money was not on a crypto

598
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:15.359
scandal the or scambo.

599
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:16.400
Yeah yeah, me too.

600
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:19.480
Yeah, we're so sad about the loss of Jonathan the

601
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.559
one hundred and ninety three year old tortoise. Buy this,

602
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:26.720
you know, buy torte coin to help support And somebody

603
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:29.279
was like, wait, last week they told me tort coin

604
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:33.880
was to protect torti cats. What's going on here? It's

605
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:37.720
all a lie? But that's that's I mean, I'm not shocked.

606
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:39.319
That is the kind of scam that would be on

607
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:42.559
expert who who thinks of that?

608
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:45.720
It just makes me sad, Yeah, because it could have

609
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:50.839
been just a nice April Fool's joke without being malicious.

610
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:55.000
Yeah. I just who's the sound and goes like, what

611
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.880
if we say the world's oldest tortoise is dead? Yeah? Donations.

612
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.599
Yeah, it's also like you shouldn't pretend things are dead.

613
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:04.079
That'll make people sad.

614
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:08.400
Yeah, especially if it's like your brother and he's dead. Yeah,

615
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:13.400
hey sis, and you're like looking the other way, and

616
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.000
then like they come over and they move the cup

617
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.039
in front of you. Go ah, you like run out

618
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:22.599
of the room that and then and then and then

619
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:23.960
you come back at the room and go, if you

620
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.079
buy me, if you send me ten bitcoin, I'll pretend you.

621
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:30.159
I'll pretend you're alive again. That's good, I'll pretend you're

622
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:35.519
alive again. I'm in a goofy mood today. It's been

623
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:39.599
a long week. I was out of town two weekends

624
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.000
in a row, so I had a lot to catch

625
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:46.320
up on, including sleep. And I don't know about you,

626
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.039
my allergies have been insane.

627
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:50.599
Man, haven't been too bad. I don't know.

628
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:52.880
I was mowing the lawn and doing the edging the

629
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.679
other day and I was just like filling cleanexes with

630
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:00.159
just like that weird. You know, you're clearly not snick,

631
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:01.840
yet you have an immense amount of snot.

632
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:04.800
Were you blowing your nose while you were working?

633
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.119
I was stopping and getting a tissue. I didn't want

634
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.599
to like snot all over myself.

635
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.000
Oh, you're just supposed to just let it run.

636
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:18.840
I wish I had that kind of confidence. I don't

637
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:20.079
believe in myself like that.

638
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.599
It's Okay, I understand.

639
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.079
But maybe I will if I buy enough tortue coin

640
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:26.800
and get those massive gains.

641
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:32.840
Yeah, yeah, to the moon. Yeah.

642
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:34.400
We're going to take a quick break and when we

643
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:36.719
get back, we're going to talk about a haunted village

644
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:41.400
in Britain and why Michelle will almost certainly want to

645
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:41.840
move there.

646
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:42.480
Yeah.

647
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:57.639
Right after this, Michelle, Yeah, we're heading back to Mirror

648
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:03.800
dot co dot UK. The headline is most haunted village

649
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:09.599
in Britain where fifteen ghosts rome and screams heard after dark.

650
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:12.320
That's not that many ghosts.

651
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:14.360
It's how many do you have? Then?

652
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:16.400
Like more than fifteen?

653
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:17.320
Really?

654
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:21.880
Yeah? And they roam and scream after dark. I don't

655
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:25.000
know why this is so hard for you to understand.

656
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:27.519
When I first read the headline, I thought it just

657
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:32.239
had fifteen ghosts Roman scream yeah, And I was like,

658
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:36.039
that's really weird. But screams heard after dark less weird.

659
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:40.840
I guess, I guess, I guess, But I didn't realize

660
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.119
you were so maggoty with ghosts. I am jealous. Yeah,

661
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:52.679
you're very lucky. You're a lucky young lady. During daylight hours.

662
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:58.119
Pluckley and Kent appears to be your typical charming English village. However,

663
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:02.840
don't let its delightful appearance deceive you, as once darkness falls,

664
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:10.880
the village transforms into an extremely eerie location. Yeah, if

665
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:14.159
ghosts make you nervous, this might not be your ideal

666
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:18.199
destination for Halloween. Tucked away in the Kent countryside, the

667
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:24.880
village is home to just one thousand residents. It's pretty small, yeah,

668
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:35.000
living in a mixture of charming cottages and scenic country properties. Right. Yet,

669
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.599
alongside the living inhabitants, the village is believed to house

670
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:42.800
fifteen ghosts.

671
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:47.400
I mean, that's a relatively small portion of the town

672
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:49.000
that are ghosts.

673
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.559
I feel like that's a I think that's a high percentage.

674
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.639
If there's a thousand people and then there's fifteen ghosts,

675
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:55.320
I think that's a lot of ghosts.

676
00:37:55.320 --> 00:38:01.079
That's not even that's that's not even ten.

677
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.239
No, But are we supposed to have ten percent by

678
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:05.159
volume ghosts?

679
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.400
What is that like? One point five percent of the

680
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:08.679
residents or ghosts?

681
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:13.440
Yeah, that's I think that's a lot, I guess. I mean, honestly,

682
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:16.079
I didn't think ghosts were as common as like Jewish people,

683
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:25.840
and apparently they are. Geez Among its numerous haunted locations

684
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:32.239
is the Screaming Woods, which has named after Philip Screaming Now,

685
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:38.159
which which has drawn many courageous visitors recently with people

686
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:43.440
camping beneath the tree canopy. Oh wow, that's a creepy image.

687
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:45.559
I'm gonna show it to you, I think. Okay, yeah,

688
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:50.239
I think I can Okay, Yeah, that's a pretty cool picture.

689
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:54.360
I mean it looks like yeah, yeah.

690
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:58.880
Very foggy. I mean, kind of what I would expect

691
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:03.280
from the English countries. Multiple reports have emerged of the

692
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:07.199
sound of screaming men and women once night arrives. These

693
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.760
are believed to be the cries of those who perished

694
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.519
after becoming lost in the woods.

695
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:14.480
They were just screaming.

696
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:17.559
Is that what you do when you're lost? That's what

697
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:17.880
I do?

698
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:20.159
Oh? Is that what you're supposed to do? Is that

699
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:21.039
how people find you?

700
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:26.000
Yes? Oh, you missed that day in second grade? I guess,

701
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:32.000
remember kids, and don't scream help, Just generally scream. Oh,

702
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:38.639
that's how people know. Additionally, witnesses claim to have seen

703
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:44.639
everything from spectral horse drawn coaches to hanging corpses in

704
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:49.039
the haunted cemetery. People report hearing agonized screams from a

705
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:51.440
dying man and a mourning mother.

706
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.159
That's sad geez.

707
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:01.440
Below are some of the other spine chilling, inexplicable sightings

708
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:07.960
from Pluckley the Highwayman hauntings. The apptly named Fright Corner

709
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.840
is a road in Plucky where the apparition of a

710
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:14.440
highwayman is frequently observed. He's thought to be the spirit

711
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.280
of a highwayman. He just keeps saying highwayman, over and overhead.

712
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:21.000
Highwayman who met his death in the eighteenth century. Legend

713
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.840
has it he clashed with the village of peacekeepers, who

714
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:28.440
reportedly pinned him to an oak tree with a sword. Ouch. Yeah,

715
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:32.840
that was smart. Ghost enthusiasts claim the sword fight replays itself,

716
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.880
always ending the same way.

717
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:38.320
Well, I mean, it's not gonna end a different way.

718
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:40.000
No, that'd be weird. And then all of a sudden

719
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:41.360
he would just be like, hey, I didn't die, And

720
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:44.079
then somebody walked by and is that my grandpa because

721
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:45.280
now he has grand.

722
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:46.840
Yeah, everything's fixed.

723
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.000
Yeah, the time different like I am. And then one

724
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.039
of the ghost senders were like ah and like stab him,

725
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:56.000
and then the grandson would just like evaporate to protect

726
00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:01.880
the timeline the spectral timeline. Whilst the woods might appear

727
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:05.360
an ideal spot for a walk, Dicky Buss Lane should

728
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:09.079
be given a wide berth. According to accounts, there have

729
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:12.199
been sightings of the corpse of a teacher who hanged himself.

730
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.719
Rumors suggest he ended his life following World War One,

731
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.880
with his body discovered by the miller. By the miller

732
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:26.159
Dickie several weeks afterwards. Okay, oh, here we go. Let's

733
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:29.039
get into the screams of agony. To this day, witnesses

734
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:31.880
claim to hear the bone chilling screams of agony from

735
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.559
the brickswork site. This is where an unfortunate brickworker met

736
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:39.280
a gruesome death when crushed by a wall of clay.

737
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:46.840
Oh oh, you mean, like oh as an osha, osha.

738
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.000
I mean sort of. I'm just confused, like what this

739
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.159
wall of clay is there? What is it doing.

740
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.079
I'm guessing he was building the wall of clay because

741
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:58.840
he was a brickworker, so oh, I guess, or he

742
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.159
was using the wall of clay build the bricks or whatever.

743
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:04.800
I guess. Yeah.

744
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:08.360
The eerie sound of horses hoofs is regularly heard by

745
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:12.599
residents in Pluckley villagers have also reported spotting a horse

746
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:14.880
drawn carriage on Moltman's Hill.

747
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:17.760
Yay.

748
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:22.440
One babysitter once described seeing the coach with light streaming

749
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:26.519
from its windows, drawn by horses. In nineteen ninety seven,

750
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:30.119
a motorist nearly crashed after hearing the clip clop of

751
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:34.599
hoofs on cobbles whilst driving on a tarmac road.

752
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.920
Can you imagine that making you crash? You just hear

753
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:40.760
a sound and you crash.

754
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:42.719
I mean, I can't imagine being British.

755
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:47.519
Oh, it's not. It probably wouldn't be like weird or anything.

756
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:59.000
Hmm, okay man, you really don't like the British. A

757
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.400
cemetery is an is unsettling at the best of times,

758
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:06.360
but Pluckies will make your blood run cold. The Red

759
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.079
Lady is believed to haunt the graveyard of Saint Nicholas.

760
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:12.480
The local church Lady Daring, was laid to rest there

761
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:16.679
during the eleven hundreds, entombed in a lead coffin adorned

762
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:22.280
with a single red rose. Local residents have reported sightings

763
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:26.639
of her spirit drifting through the graveyard, desperately searching for

764
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.840
her stillborn child's final resting place.

765
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.960
They should just tell her where it is.

766
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:35.719
Seein it's kind of a running gag. Now they're like

767
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:41.800
the teller, don't tell her? Okay? Which is which is harsh?

768
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:42.679
It really is?

769
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:43.639
It's pretty mean.

770
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:45.320
Yeah.

771
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.159
The charming Pinnock Bridge offers visitors a peaceful spot to

772
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:54.280
admire the breathtaking landscape. However, you may find yourself sharing

773
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:58.760
the space with a spectral gypsy woman. Oh, I mean,

774
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:02.000
i'd be even a regular one would probably be like this.

775
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:04.000
I hope this doesn't make my day less good?

776
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:06.480
Yeah? Yeah.

777
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:09.400
Legend tells of how she earned her keep by selling

778
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:13.559
watercress gathered from the stream below. The gypsy's apparition has

779
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:17.199
been witnessed perched on the bridge, puffing on a pipe

780
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:21.320
at the very location where she tragically perished in an

781
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:25.760
accidental fire. On the bridge caught on.

782
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.480
Fire and she died on the right I guess, so,

783
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.920
perching on the bridge when it was on fire.

784
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:33.000
Puffing on a pipe.

785
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:34.119
What's going on?

786
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.760
This is a lot. I'm not sure I understand.

787
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:39.280
I don't understand.

788
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:46.000
Uh. The atmospheric Blacksmith's Arms is reportedly home to three

789
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:49.840
spine chilling spirits. I think that's a pub amongst the

790
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:55.519
supernatural visitors are a tutor maid, a coachman, and a cavalier.

791
00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:57.079
Man.

792
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.440
I hate when people use the word ghouls not literally,

793
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:04.239
because that part was headlined as pub ghouls and ghouls

794
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.480
originally were like flesh eaters. So I was like, oh, man,

795
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:09.320
that sounds scary, and it's like a Now they're just ghosts,

796
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:11.920
and like, oh, like everything else, they're just ghosts.

797
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:12.599
Yeah.

798
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.039
It's like when I hear goblins and ghouls, I'm like, hell, yeah,

799
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.639
let's see some weird stuff. You know, it's Richard Dickey.

800
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:25.559
What did you say. It's tough out there. Yeah, Richard

801
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:28.239
Dickey Buss, who is said to have discovered the body

802
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:32.519
of the hang teacher, now allegedly haunts the village derelict windmill,

803
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:36.360
the Pinnix. Okay, so we mentioned earlier Dicky Buss discovered

804
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.360
the hung teacher. So now Dickie Buss is also a ghost.

805
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.280
So the guy who discovered that dead body is now

806
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.559
himself a ghost. This place is maggoty with ghosts. Yeah,

807
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:47.280
with fifteen ghost see what I mean when we read

808
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:48.840
them out loud, this is a lot of ghosts.

809
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:52.360
It does feel like a lot of ghosts, but it's not,

810
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:53.960
but it's not.

811
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.559
Dicky shut down the mill in nineteen thirty and nine

812
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:02.239
years later it was obliterated by a violent storm when

813
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:05.679
lightning struck. His ghost is believed to linger at the

814
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:14.559
eerie site, typically appearing just before thunderstorms roll in. Hm, ooh,

815
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:18.880
the scariest one of all, the White Lady. At least

816
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.679
when you work in customer service, the scariest one of all.

817
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.159
A phantom known as the White Lady is said to

818
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:28.239
roam Saint Nicholas Church, along with the library of her

819
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:32.719
former family residence, Sarend and Daring. The grand house was

820
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.320
destroyed in a fire in nineteen fifty two. This sounds

821
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:37.719
like a very flammable town. M h.

822
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:39.880
Everything's just going on fire.

823
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:43.760
On fire everything. We have bridges, gypsy women who are

824
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.159
selling watercress. Yeah, it's tough out there, man.

825
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:48.599
Yeah.

826
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:52.039
But her spirit has reportedly been seen from the US embassy,

827
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.760
who used the property as a base between World War

828
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:59.559
one and two. And finally, oh wait, no, wile they're wait,

829
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.039
oh my god, just when you think they can't get worse.

830
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.199
At Mirror dot co dot UK. I haven't been reading

831
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.480
the numbers, but this is number ten because it's number

832
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:13.559
number ten, another man who took his own life is

833
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.280
said to haunt Plucky. A colonel who hanged himself in

834
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.559
Parkwood is said to have been spotted wandering among the trees.

835
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.239
Much of the area has been cleared, but his spirit remained.

836
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:26.679
Now Number eleven is the mistress of rose Court, is

837
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:28.679
said to have taken her own life by eating a

838
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:33.079
handful of poisonous berries. The house resembles a charming village

839
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:36.559
home and is two hundred and fifty years old. Then

840
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:41.599
it's number fourteen. It just went from eleven to fourteen. No, no,

841
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:47.320
no reason, it's just eleven to fourteen. Wow, finally number fourteen.

842
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.440
Two haunted pubs aren't enough for the most haunted village

843
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:53.800
in Britain. The Daring Arms used to be a hunting

844
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:55.519
lodge and is now said to be home to the

845
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.880
ghost of a woman wearing a bonnet. That's what she gets.

846
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:01.079
She's wearing a bonnet.

847
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:03.440
That's the whole thing. Yeah. Wow.

848
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.639
She has been spotted by numerous customers and her spirit

849
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.800
appears so vivid that she has been mistaken for a

850
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:14.880
real drinker. Oh okay, we've been talking about getting a

851
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.840
bonnet for the cats putting the two in a bonnet.

852
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:20.480
Why no, she's like a little baby in a bonnet.

853
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:21.159
Why.

854
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:23.360
I don't know. She'd probably hate it is why.

855
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:26.159
Oh, okay, so you just want you just want to

856
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:27.159
antagonize her.

857
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:29.159
It's not like she doesn't antagonize us.

858
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:33.199
Yeah, that doesn't mean you should do it too.

859
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:43.199
Uh, the bigger thing mammal. Yeah, we'll see. We're gonna

860
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.800
take a quick break and when we get back. Some

861
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:50.159
people hiking in a remote desert make a chilling discovery

862
00:48:51.599 --> 00:49:04.719
right after this. Now we're heading to the desert. You

863
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:08.960
have no feeling about that. I don't know. This is

864
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:13.119
from People magazine or People dot com, and the headline reads,

865
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:21.880
hiker finds human skull in remote desert area in California. Oh,

866
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:24.920
apparently near a Joshua tree. Because there's a picture of

867
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:25.840
a Joshua tree.

868
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:27.360
Oh well, that's nice.

869
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:31.159
Those are weird. I mean, they're cool, they're just unusual

870
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:34.880
Joshua trees. I guess I have nothing against them. I

871
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:36.800
actually think they look really cool, but they're not like

872
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.840
anything else. For the most part. They're very odd when

873
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:45.159
you first look at them. A hiker came across what Oh,

874
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:48.320
I just said, Yeah, I'm going to get you a

875
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:49.800
Joshua tree for Christmas.

876
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:51.559
I don't think it can live here.

877
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:55.679
Why, Like you don't think you can find a job?

878
00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:57.159
Like is the economy two weak?

879
00:49:57.719 --> 00:49:59.960
Yeah.

880
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:03.360
A hiker came across a human skull while hiking in

881
00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:09.079
a desert area in southern California on the morning of Wednesday,

882
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:12.840
April twenty second. At seven thirty am local time, officials

883
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.880
received an alert that human remains had been found near

884
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:20.000
Adobe Road and Baseline Road in twenty nine Palms. The

885
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:23.559
San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department said in a statement a

886
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:26.880
person had been hiking in the remote desert area and

887
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:29.360
stumbled upon what seemed to be the skull of an

888
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:35.079
adult human. How would you react if you were hiking

889
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:37.599
along and you found a skull, a human skull.

890
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:39.960
I guess I'd be like, oh no, and then I'd

891
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:41.519
want to touch it. And then I'd be like, no,

892
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:43.840
you're not supposed to touch it, and then I'd call

893
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:44.840
the police.

894
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:48.639
I was hoping I've had a feeling that was where.

895
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.039
What would happen is you'd be like, oh no, ooh no.

896
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:54.239
Don't touch the skull.

897
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:57.119
The skull, but it's calling to me.

898
00:50:57.800 --> 00:50:59.480
I have to know what it feels like.

899
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:01.719
And they're like, oh, I guess I could just touch

900
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:03.880
my own head. Yeah, it's pretty good.

901
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:06.280
Not the same because there's stuff on it.

902
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:09.519
There's stuff on it. We pick it off like a pizza.

903
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:10.000
You don't like.

904
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:12.480
Oh yeah, I guess I could touch my teeth. That

905
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:13.199
might be closer.

906
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:16.199
That's close. It's kind of the same. Not really though,

907
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:18.320
because your teeth aren't made of bone. They're made out

908
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:20.519
of an other thing that's like bone.

909
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:23.920
Oh, but I don't have access to other bones.

910
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:27.760
I mean you have. Maybe one day you'll have a

911
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:29.639
compound fracture. You got to be positive.

912
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:31.760
Okay, fine, I can wait.

913
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:37.559
After deputies from the Marango Marongo station arrived, they called

914
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:41.039
in homicide detectives from the Sheriff's office. Investigators searched the

915
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:44.599
area and recovered the skull. Quote the skull appeared to

916
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:47.559
have been exposed to an extended period of time. Oh,

917
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.519
for an extended period of time, The Sheriff's Department said.

918
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.159
An extensive search of the area was conducted and the

919
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:57.559
remains will undergo a forensic examination. Authority shared a further

920
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:01.119
shared no further details about the case, only saying that

921
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.920
DNA results are pending. The San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department

922
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:10.559
did not immediately respond to People's request for comment. Hmmm.

923
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:15.079
An agency spokesperson told the Los Angeles Times that if

924
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:18.320
the remains are not identified, the skull will stay in

925
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:21.760
evidence as investigators wait for a missing person's report to

926
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:25.760
be filed. The investigation may be reclassified as a cold

927
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.880
case if the remains go unidentified, according to the paper.

928
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:33.280
I mean, that's that's how you do it.

929
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:40.559
I guess CSI Missing Skulls Unit or whatever that song.

930
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:44.159
Was, Yeah, that was yeah, I think so too.

931
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:47.760
Yeah, I'm old. What do you want? You know? I

932
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:50.559
just that's what I like. I like law and order.

933
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:55.920
I know. Well, we're going to head to where is

934
00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:02.119
this to New York State? Uh. This is a news

935
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:06.119
report from WHC. The headline is what the hell is that?

936
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:11.079
Webster police now investigating mysterious explosions and flashes of light

937
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:12.440
caught on camera.

938
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:15.000
Huh.

939
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:18.119
Flashes of light and explosions were captured late Saturday night.

940
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:21.119
Since then, other neighbors in Webster said they heard different

941
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:26.119
booms this week. Chief investigative reporter Berkeley Breen has documented

942
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:29.840
the explosions since Thanksgiving, but for the first time now

943
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:34.480
Webster police told him they have an active investigation. Quote

944
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:35.280
this is the neighbook.

945
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:39.239
Sorry, so things have been blowing up since Thanksgiving and

946
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:40.960
they're just investigating now.

947
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:43.679
Well, I imagine if there are mysterious explosions, it means

948
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:45.079
they don't know where they're coming from.

949
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:47.119
Yeah, I guess.

950
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:52.039
Quote this is the neighborhood where the latest explosions were recorded,

951
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.000
and the flash of light appears to have come from

952
00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:58.360
the north, Breen said, And we're about two miles from Lake, Ontario.

953
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:01.400
Paul Morrile was a leap Saturday night when he heard

954
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:06.440
a loud boom quote boom. I immediately jumped out and

955
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.880
duck my head down and thought, what the hell is that?

956
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:12.719
Moral said. It was an explosion, actually two of them,

957
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.800
back to back, a flash of light then the sound,

958
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:19.119
and the sound in those videos doesn't even capture it.

959
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:22.519
I mean it was a very it is a very boom,

960
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:27.320
like a flash bang boom. Morals said. I love when

961
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:31.719
when sentences are transcribed it can be very funny because

962
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:33.519
like if you heard him just say that, it wouldn't

963
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:35.599
feel odd, but yeah, you read it, it's like what.

964
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:41.519
Breen started tracking these explosions in the fall. Joel Calcagno's

965
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:46.320
cameras caught them in October. It sounds like something exploding, Calcagno, said,

966
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:50.599
Webster's neighbor. Webster neighbors caught them again in December. Brian

967
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:54.480
Hensel captured explosion sounds with a flash of light. It

968
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:57.280
didn't sound like lightning, it didn't sound like fireworks. It

969
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:05.320
was significant. Hensel said, ooh, my first thought would be fireworks. Yeah.

970
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:08.280
My only thought is that maybe they aren't explosions. Then

971
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:11.159
they just sound like what someone thinks an explosion sounds like,

972
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:17.559
which is what boom.

973
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:19.719
Somebody used to do a remix of that song, you know, boom,

974
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.239
Here comes the boom ready or not? But use that

975
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:29.639
sample of you going boom quote. Oh sorry. North of

976
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:32.920
the neighborhood that recorded the explosions are open farm fields.

977
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:34.320
Yeah.

978
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:36.960
Yeah, what did you say?

979
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:37.960
That's how they get you?

980
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:41.199
Oh yeah, you think the farmers are going to get them, yeah,

981
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:46.239
with the explosions with the boom. Yeah. Breen was standing

982
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:49.119
out about three miles from the neighborhood at Webster Park

983
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.519
last year. Webster said it looked into the explosions and

984
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:59.440
found no evidence. Now the police consider the latest explosions

985
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:03.320
and act of investigation. Quote the sound just opens you

986
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:07.920
write up jostles you right away. Moral said, so it

987
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:11.519
sounds like these were like really powerful explosions.

988
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:14.840
Or sounds that people are thinking are explosions.

989
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:17.679
Yeah, why are you so anti this being an explosion?

990
00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:19.599
Because I feel like it was an explosion. We'd have

991
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:21.960
like evidence of an explosion.

992
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:27.480
Oh you mean like physical evidence. Yes. Yeah. The town

993
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:29.719
of Webster and the police said this is an active

994
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:32.400
investigation and that all information they're prepared. That is all

995
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:36.199
the information they're prepared to release right now. Wow sucks,

996
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:41.480
this is Yeah, it's it's weird. I mean I would

997
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:43.320
be pretty mad if there was an explosion and nobody

998
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:44.360
could figure out what it was.

999
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.039
Yeah, you know, not an explosion.

1000
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:53.119
Why are you being like this because there's.

1001
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:54.880
No evidence that it's an explosion.

1002
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:58.679
I mean, apparently there are ring door cameras that caught

1003
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:00.639
bright flashing lights and sounds.

1004
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:03.360
But that could be anything.

1005
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:07.400
Right, I don't know, it can't be literally anything. It's

1006
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:08.079
not a horse.

1007
00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:11.960
You don't know that.

1008
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:13.800
That's just one of my pet peeves that it could

1009
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.360
be anything. No, it can't it can't literally be anything.

1010
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:17.760
It has to be things that are similar.

1011
00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:21.239
No, literally be anything.

1012
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.719
Okay, we're gonna take a quick break and we get back.

1013
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:29.320
We're gonna talk about hot air balloons.

1014
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:34.719
Okay, Right, that was not the response I was expecting

1015
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:50.639
from you. Okay, so cell, Yeah, you have a backyard. Obviously,

1016
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:52.719
I've seen your backyard. I know that you have one.

1017
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:56.960
Have you ever found anything in your backyard you that

1018
00:57:57.159 --> 00:57:59.800
like you weren't expecting or wasn't yours or shouldn't be there?

1019
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:01.440
Yeah?

1020
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:02.760
What was it?

1021
00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:05.679
Found? Bones? Chicken bones?

1022
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:07.280
Scary?

1023
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:11.400
I found a wire that was severed. Then I don't

1024
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:14.719
know why it was there in the.

1025
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:21.440
Ground, in the ground or on the electrical wire in the.

1026
00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:22.400
No, like inside the dirt.

1027
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:24.199
How did you find.

1028
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:25.519
Doug for it?

1029
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:30.719
So you were just digging around?

1030
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:33.400
Well I was. I was going to plant a tree.

1031
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:41.119
But yes, that's a little odd. Yeah, but never anything

1032
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:43.039
like whoa what is that doing in my backyard?

1033
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:46.599
Well, if we're talking about hot air balloons in my backyard?

1034
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:54.119
Oh, sorry, you're ruining the excitement. I'm sorry, Yes, we're

1035
00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:56.440
talking about hot air balloons in your backyard.

1036
00:58:56.519 --> 00:58:59.800
Because I wanted to say I'm sorry, I just wanted

1037
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:03.920
to to do that because when I lived in New Jersey,

1038
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:06.360
hot air balloons did come in my backyard.

1039
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:08.760
Wait say that again.

1040
00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:11.679
What when I lived in New Jersey, hot air balloons

1041
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:13.039
did come in my backyard?

1042
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:13.559
What?

1043
00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:16.960
Well they didn't. There is so so in my backyard

1044
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:20.519
behind the backyard I lived in, and there was like

1045
00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:23.280
a there was like a little field that was supposed

1046
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:26.039
to be a drainage ditch, but people would play in

1047
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:29.960
it and golf in it and shoot arrows in it

1048
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:33.000
until we made them stop because we called the police.

1049
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:34.920
Arrows.

1050
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:37.599
Yeah, it was not a good idea shooting at people's

1051
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:42.840
houses the direction of people's houses. Anyway, For a long time,

1052
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:45.840
every year, hot air balloons would land there.

1053
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:50.079
Oh yeah, that's pretty cool. Until somebody shot an arrow

1054
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:50.719
through one.

1055
00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:53.159
And the yeah, and they stopped. Yeah, no, I don't

1056
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:55.880
know why they stopped, but it was really cool. They

1057
00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:58.199
would land and just hang out for and then they'd

1058
00:59:58.280 --> 00:59:58.719
go away.

1059
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:01.599
They probably land and to dally eat sandwiches or something.

1060
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:04.679
Maybe All right, let's get stretch, to stretch their legs.

1061
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.159
Yeah, there's a spot down there. Let's just go over

1062
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:08.559
here behind these houses.

1063
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:12.400
Yeah, well that's nice, But were you aware that that

1064
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:13.840
was gonna happen or it just happened.

1065
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:14.840
No, it just happened.

1066
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:16.239
Oh that's kind of wild.

1067
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:18.800
Yeah yeah.

1068
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:19.159
Uh.

1069
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:22.920
The only experience I have is like, there was a

1070
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:24.880
hot air balloon at my school one time, but it

1071
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:27.280
was like a thing like there today they're gonna have

1072
01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:28.000
a hot air balloon.

1073
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:30.400
Yeah no, they would just be there and you're like, oh,

1074
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:32.599
there's a hot air balloon back there. All right.

1075
01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:35.880
I can't imagine traveling in a hot air balloon. It

1076
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:37.039
sounds kind of scary.

1077
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:39.639
It does sound kind of scary.

1078
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:41.280
Yeah, maybe I'm a coward.

1079
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:44.000
I mean I would do it. It just sounds scary.

1080
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:46.880
Yeah, that's that's probably where I'm where I'm at to

1081
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:50.400
uh well, from Huffington Post, we have a headline hot

1082
01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:57.760
air balloon makes emergency landing in California backyard. Yay, so

1083
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:04.639
uh interesting the photo the backyard doesn't even look that big.

1084
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:08.280
Yeah yeah, which makes me think it was legitimately an

1085
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:10.400
emergency landing. They're like, oh crap, I think we can

1086
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:12.519
thread the needle and get into this backyard.

1087
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:13.519
Oh god.

1088
01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:17.880
A balloon landed in a southern California backyard. A balloon

1089
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:19.280
with thirteen people.

1090
01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:21.719
Oh.

1091
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:25.039
The enormous hot air balloon with a pilot and passengers

1092
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:29.480
in the basket, descended perfectly Saturday on a small plot

1093
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:34.000
of grass at a home in Temecula. Hunter Perrin said

1094
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.800
he had no idea that he had visitors until a

1095
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:40.000
neighbor alerted him, Hey, you know you got a hot

1096
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:45.800
air balloon at your backyard. What. Yeah, it's like, you know,

1097
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:49.559
it's like eight stories tall whatever, so it's very obvious.

1098
01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:53.199
Oh yeah, you might want to check that out. Yeah,

1099
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:55.039
I guess I should before I let the dog out.

1100
01:01:55.119 --> 01:02:00.559
Huh yeah. Quote I was watching TV. Oh my god,

1101
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:03.639
it's like what I described m Quote. I was watching

1102
01:02:03.719 --> 01:02:06.079
TV and my wife was doing yoga. Parent told the

1103
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:09.079
Associated Press there was a man standing in my in

1104
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:13.000
front of my door saying they just landed. What. I

1105
01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:16.920
was very confused? Dude, You should you have you're friendly

1106
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:18.559
with a couple of your neighbors. You should go to

1107
01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:21.119
them on April Fool's Day next year and just be like, hey,

1108
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:25.960
they just landed. They give them no other no other information.

1109
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:28.440
Yeah, they'd love that.

1110
01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:31.440
They probably like it's so nice to have Michelle actually

1111
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:36.480
come and visit. Oh they like you. Oh, they don't

1112
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:40.320
They're like, what a nice lady. Oh, I think that's

1113
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:41.239
probably what they're thinking.

1114
01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:44.039
My next door neighbor has been gone for like a week,

1115
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:45.320
and I don't know where he is.

1116
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:46.800
Oh.

1117
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:49.119
I assume he went on vacation or something, but he

1118
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:51.920
didn't tell me, so I'm scared. And also he might

1119
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:53.360
just be trying to get away from me.

1120
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:55.960
So is the mail piling up?

1121
01:02:56.360 --> 01:02:58.039
No, because his uncle picks it up.

1122
01:02:58.360 --> 01:02:59.159
Oh that's fine.

1123
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:02.239
So I mean, I know he's not dead in the

1124
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:06.239
house at least, and his car is not there. But

1125
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:09.159
where is he? How come he did and tell me

1126
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:11.639
he was leaving so that I could go into his

1127
01:03:11.760 --> 01:03:13.320
house and look at his things.

1128
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:19.880
Yeah. Really, people are so inconsiderate now, Yeah, but there

1129
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:23.000
they were a group of anxious people, suddenly relieved to

1130
01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:27.079
be on solid ground. Paren's grassy backyard patch is only

1131
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:30.280
about ten feet wide. I was right. It was really small.

1132
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:34.159
It's really small. Oh my god, it's like the size

1133
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:38.280
of my bedroom. Not my big bedroom, my small bedroom.

1134
01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:43.880
Oh look at you flex him. You got all these bedrooms.

1135
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:51.440
Oh yeah, eh, home ownerships really changed you. Quote. It

1136
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:54.559
was unbelievable, like something out of a Disney fairy tale.

1137
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:57.800
Jenna Parrin said, the balloon didn't hit our house or

1138
01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:02.360
our trees. It was kissing the fence. Wow, it really

1139
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:03.719
let me see if I could show you real quick,

1140
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:07.079
because like the still image of the basket, like it

1141
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:08.800
really is snug. Look at that.

1142
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:11.119
Oh yeah, yeah, there's not that much room in there.

1143
01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.679
Are Yeah, it's not a big yard at all. No,

1144
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:19.119
So they really threaded the needle, so to speak. Now,

1145
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:24.760
if I could just find where I was reading. Brianna

1146
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:27.400
Avlos and her husband were riding in the balloon to

1147
01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:31.079
celebrate their tenth wedding anniversary. She said the pilot informed

1148
01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:33.920
passengers that he needed to make an emergency landing because

1149
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:37.039
of low fuel and the shift in winds. That's just

1150
01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:38.480
what they always say when they need to go to

1151
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:43.599
the bathroom really bad. Like that's what they say, yeah. Quote.

1152
01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:45.360
At first, I was like, oh my god, we're in

1153
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:50.239
a backyard. This is crazy. Clearly somebody from the city,

1154
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:56.920
I guess, like, not from the suburbs, eh hmm. The

1155
01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:59.719
blue balloon, with gold stars and a crescent moon image

1156
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:02.480
was a spectacle as it came to rest in the backyard,

1157
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:07.079
towering over the parents home. The pilot disembarked, the passengers

1158
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:10.320
returned aloft, and then landed the balloon nearby in the street.

1159
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:15.679
Oh wow, wow, I feel like it's safer in the

1160
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:18.519
backyard than in the middle of the street. We're going

1161
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:20.280
to put it in the street.

1162
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.119
Because the balloon is going to like get it'll get

1163
01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:24.519
stuck on your roof or in the trees. You need

1164
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:25.800
a place to dismantle it.

1165
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:28.800
But now people can't go down that street because there's

1166
01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:30.119
a balloon in the middle of it.

1167
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:32.239
Well, the goodness is they'll see it, so they'll notice that.

1168
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:37.360
I think the backyard you just need space. Yeah yeah,

1169
01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:39.360
but it was good not dropping the people in the

1170
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:45.559
middle of the road. Eyah, whatever, cheese. The pilot disembarked

1171
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:49.119
the passengers, which are loft, then landed the balloon nearby

1172
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:51.519
in the street, where it was dismantled. He was an

1173
01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:55.840
amazing pilot, avelope, said Denny Barrett, the owner of Magical Adventure,

1174
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:58.840
which provides the balloon rides, declined to identify the pilot,

1175
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:02.760
but said he had quote exercised great judgment and done

1176
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:03.400
the right thing.

1177
01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:07.159
I mean, why didn't they have enough fuel?

1178
01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:12.280
Though that's true, I mean it could have been Avlos

1179
01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:14.000
because it was her tenth wedding anniversary. And you know

1180
01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:15.760
how women are lying about their weight.

1181
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:19.800
Oh oh yeah, that'll I'll do it.

1182
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:21.920
But I think he had to go to the bathroom.

1183
01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:23.360
That's my personal opinion.

1184
01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:27.079
Yeah, well, did he ask to use their bathroom when

1185
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:27.679
they landed?

1186
01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:31.079
It doesn't say that here, but probably. I mean, wouldn't

1187
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:33.079
you even if you even if you didn't land because

1188
01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:34.199
you had to go, wouldn't you be like.

1189
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:36.760
You should probably go to the bathroom? Yeah?

1190
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:41.079
Yeah, quote. Most of our landings are in wine country,

1191
01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:45.400
Barrett said, referring to vineyards in California's Riverside County. Usually

1192
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:51.760
they're bigger backyards. That's good, good attitude. I'm glad nobody.

1193
01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:52.719
Got me too.

1194
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:55.400
Well, we're going to take a quick break and when

1195
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:57.280
we get back, we're going to go into a darker

1196
01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:01.639
story that I don't know what to make up right

1197
01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:15.039
after this. So Shell, this one comes from your beloved

1198
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:21.639
enpr yay, And I'm not gonna lie. This article is

1199
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:26.320
weird and kind of like darkly humorous, but also I

1200
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:30.719
don't even know how to feel about this Yay. The

1201
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:36.119
headline is a professional corn hole player and quadruple amputee

1202
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:38.840
is arrested for murder.

1203
01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:41.159
What oh, I feel like I know about this.

1204
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:46.760
You know you probably think of a different one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1205
01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:50.119
I mean literally, this is a young man with no

1206
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:52.639
arms and no well I mean he has most of

1207
01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:58.719
his arms gone and his leg's gone, who apparently was

1208
01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:02.559
a professional cornhole player, which I didn't know that there

1209
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:05.639
was a professional corn hole But also I didn't know

1210
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:08.119
you could do it while missing limbs like that, so

1211
01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:10.920
many limbs, I think you do it? Oh sure, I

1212
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:12.760
mean the picture of him he is wearing. He has

1213
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:15.239
like prosthetic legs you know, to run in and stuff,

1214
01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:17.520
which is awesome, but it's a lot to take in.

1215
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:22.800
And then is arrested for murder. Yeah yeah, so you

1216
01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:26.479
see what I mean. It's a lot. A professional corn

1217
01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:29.439
hole player who is a quadruple amputee has been arrested

1218
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:31.479
in connection with a fatal shooting.

1219
01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:35.479
Oh now I'm even more confused.

1220
01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:39.359
What you thought it'd be stabbing or like what I was.

1221
01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:43.439
Thinking, like like poison or something, you know, like it,

1222
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:46.439
or like I thought, maybe like choking them to death

1223
01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:47.279
like strangulation.

1224
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:51.319
Geez, good to know that's where your mind goes.

1225
01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:53.159
Well, I was just thinking of things you could do

1226
01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:56.039
without all of your your limbs.

1227
01:08:56.640 --> 01:09:02.079
Mm. Okay, then you made it weird, Jelle, I'm sorry

1228
01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:02.720
you made it weird.

1229
01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:03.079
Sorry.

1230
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:07.600
Dayton Weber, twenty seven, is accused of killing a man

1231
01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:10.319
in the front seat of his car during an argument

1232
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:14.319
on Sunday in his hometown of Laplata, Maryland, about thirty

1233
01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:17.079
miles south of West Washington, d C. According to the

1234
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:21.079
Charles County Sheriff's Office, huh, you know of all the

1235
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:24.319
places Maryland would be where this would happen.

1236
01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:26.039
Totally.

1237
01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:28.359
I feel like Maryland has gotten kind of a pass.

1238
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:31.199
Like I think in the nineties people kind of stopped

1239
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:34.119
picking on Maryland for being like weird and trashy. It

1240
01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:36.239
used to be that was a constant joke. Like you know,

1241
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:39.199
I went to Maryland and got crabs was a T shirt.

1242
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:42.079
Oh yeah, you know, like all that stuff. And I

1243
01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:45.359
actually really liked Baltimore and stuff, like I've had really

1244
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:48.399
fun times hanging out there, But there was like it

1245
01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:50.720
really was like in a lot of ways, it was

1246
01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:53.119
like a miniature Florida as far as like being picked

1247
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:56.239
on when I was growing up, and that kind of stopped.

1248
01:09:56.920 --> 01:09:59.760
Yeah, I mean I don't remember that happening at all.

1249
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:00.880
Oh it's stopping.

1250
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:02.680
Oh no, it happening.

1251
01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:08.479
Oh, okay, fair enough, rude. I expect that from somebody

1252
01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:11.039
who says Florida instead of Florida.

1253
01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:13.079
I'm sorry that you hate my accent.

1254
01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:18.760
No, you hate mine is the problem. Stop saying it wrong.

1255
01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:21.920
No, I never ever tell you to stop saying the

1256
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:23.600
thing's wrong until you bring it up.

1257
01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:25.920
You have literally told me like that, that's not how

1258
01:10:25.960 --> 01:10:26.399
you say it.

1259
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:31.319
You've told me that that's not how you say it

1260
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:31.920
to me too.

1261
01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:34.560
No, I've said that's not how it's spelled.

1262
01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:40.079
Honestly, we could go into that, but it would be

1263
01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:41.079
it would be a thing.

1264
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:45.039
It would be, it would be, it would be a thing. Yeah,

1265
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:49.039
we'll just exit this conversation again.

1266
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:51.399
Sorry that you don't like my accent.

1267
01:10:53.479 --> 01:10:55.560
There are a lot of Ohio people that say exit too,

1268
01:10:55.640 --> 01:10:58.720
So there's that. The Sheriff's office said in a press

1269
01:10:58.720 --> 01:11:01.800
release that passengers in the back seat saw Weber shoot

1270
01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:05.640
Braderick Michael Wells, also twenty seven before he pulled over

1271
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:09.079
and asked them to quote help pull the victim out

1272
01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:14.119
of the car. So confused, they refused and left, at

1273
01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:17.720
which point Weber fled with the victims still in the car.

1274
01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:24.960
All of the passengers knew each other, Authority said, okay, yeah.

1275
01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:27.880
Nearly two hours later, a resident of Charlotte Hall, Maryland,

1276
01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:30.960
about fourteen miles away, called police to report a quote

1277
01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:35.720
body in a yard. Oh shit, The Sheriff's office said.

1278
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:39.159
Responders identified Wells and pronounced him dead at the scene.

1279
01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:44.479
Detectives found Weber's car over one hundred miles away in Charlottesville, Virginia, Virginia,

1280
01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:49.119
and got a warrant for his arrest. They were helped

1281
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:54.800
in their search by Virginia's able. I'll i'll be Marl. Al,

1282
01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:56.079
it's i'll be Marl.

1283
01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:58.399
I don't think that's how you pronounce it, but I

1284
01:11:58.479 --> 01:11:59.079
know what you mean.

1285
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:04.399
I'lbe Marle County Police Department, which said in a separate

1286
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:07.479
statement that one of its officers spotted Weber's vehicle at

1287
01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:10.800
a gas station and used surveillance footage to track him down.

1288
01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:14.680
Weber was arrested at a local hospital, where authority said

1289
01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:19.720
he was quote seeking treatment for a medical issue. Okay,

1290
01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:22.479
was it the no arms and the legs.

1291
01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:24.479
Or I'm really confused.

1292
01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:28.920
He was charged as a fugitive from Justice, and public

1293
01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:33.319
records show he was booked into Able Marl Charlottesville Regional

1294
01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:34.399
Jail on Monday.

1295
01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:35.319
Yeah.

1296
01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:38.960
The Sheriff's office says Weber is awaiting extradition back to Maryland,

1297
01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:42.119
where he will be charged with first degree second degree murder,

1298
01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:46.600
first degree murder, second degree murder and quote other related charges.

1299
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:49.720
But running from but.

1300
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:52.880
I'm guessing fleeing the scene of a crime or temperate

1301
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:57.800
evidence what the something or other disposal of a human remains?

1302
01:12:58.640 --> 01:12:59.920
Yeah? Yeah.

1303
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:04.279
Jail Superintendent Colonel Martin Kuemer told NPR in an email

1304
01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:07.159
that the court quote did not address extradition at its

1305
01:13:07.159 --> 01:13:10.720
Tuesday morning hearing. He said Weber's next scheduled court date

1306
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:14.680
is quote sometime in April, though his attorney could potentially

1307
01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:17.640
ask for one even sooner. And PR has reached out

1308
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:21.760
to Weber's attorney and i'll be Marle County Court for comment,

1309
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:25.239
but did not hear back in time for publication. The

1310
01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:29.079
Charles County State's Attorney's office declined to comment. Authority say

1311
01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:32.119
the murder investigation is ongoing and are asking anyone with

1312
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:39.720
relevant information to call or submit tips online. Okay, now

1313
01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:45.119
you want to learn more about the accused Yeah, you're

1314
01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:47.520
so confused. I feel like that's the only solution.

1315
01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:50.239
Yeah.

1316
01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:53.319
At ten months old, Weber was diagnosed with a bacterial

1317
01:13:53.399 --> 01:14:00.640
infection strepto caucus pneumonii pneumonier. Okay, that turns so aggressive.

1318
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:05.520
He was given last rites. Oh that's bad. When a

1319
01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:09.119
priest comes and says like, good luck on the other side, homie,

1320
01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:15.039
like that, that means you are about to leave. Yeah. Quote,

1321
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:17.640
they had actually given me a three percent chance of living,

1322
01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:19.319
and the only way that they were able to save

1323
01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:22.359
me was by getting the infections out of my system. Well,

1324
01:14:22.359 --> 01:14:26.640
and that makes sense, that's how you do it. Oh. Oh,

1325
01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:28.680
they had to amputate my arms and legs to keep

1326
01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:32.720
me alive, so that's where the infection was. Well at first,

1327
01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:34.560
that sounded like an obvious statement, and I was like, oh,

1328
01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:36.279
it's because he was leading into what happened to his

1329
01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:36.960
arms and legs.

1330
01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:37.840
Yeah.

1331
01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:41.079
That didn't stop Weber from pursuing and excelling at sports,

1332
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:44.520
including football and wrestling. In fact, ESPN profiled him in

1333
01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:47.359
twenty ten after the then twelve year old finished fourth

1334
01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:50.880
in his weight class in the Southern Maryland Junior Wrestling League.

1335
01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:55.640
Weber said at the time that it was his favorite sport,

1336
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:58.600
adding quote, I like using my strength and being fit.

1337
01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:02.000
Sometimes when I I watch my teammates in certain situations,

1338
01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:04.359
I wish I had hands, But I just try to

1339
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:07.640
do things my own way, added the rising seventh grader

1340
01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:09.520
who said he wanted to be a priest or a

1341
01:15:09.560 --> 01:15:11.279
secret service agent one day.

1342
01:15:11.479 --> 01:15:13.239
Aw, that was cute.

1343
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:18.840
I like the disparity, like priest or a secret service agent.

1344
01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:25.560
That's and then he shot someone dead. Yeah, what happened

1345
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:29.880
like to him? You know, like like did he become

1346
01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:32.479
like a fucking drug dealer or something? You know, like

1347
01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:35.000
I mean to be that violent, like out of nowhere.

1348
01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:40.520
I don't know, let's see. Weber was crowned Maryland's best

1349
01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:42.720
corn hole player in twenty twenty. He explained in the

1350
01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:45.680
piece wrote in a piece he wrote for Today that

1351
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:48.439
he doesn't wear his prosthetics in competition because they don't

1352
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:52.199
allow the same level of sensitivity or control, and has

1353
01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:55.279
adopted his technique to throw the bags by their corners

1354
01:15:55.479 --> 01:16:02.399
for more leverage. Okay, this, yeah, this is interesting. Weber

1355
01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:05.279
turned pro in twenty twenty one twenty five season, becoming

1356
01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:08.239
the first quadruple amputee in the history of the American

1357
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:11.720
Cornhole League, the governing body, founded in twenty fifteen, organizes

1358
01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:15.319
tournaments that are broadcast on ESPN and CBS Sports. The

1359
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:17.800
league confirmed to NPR on Tuesday that Weber had not

1360
01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:22.000
been an active participant since late twenty twenty four. Nonetheless,

1361
01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:24.920
it issued a statement acknowledging the allegations and declining to

1362
01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:31.319
comment on them while proceedings are ongoing. That's a story

1363
01:16:31.319 --> 01:16:32.560
that just keeps on giving.

1364
01:16:32.960 --> 01:16:37.800
I'm just confused because I mean, obviously I don't understand,

1365
01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:40.640
but like, how did he shoot a gun?

1366
01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:47.600
I mean, I don't know. I'm so are you saying

1367
01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:54.760
you're confused as to how he was armed? No, we're

1368
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:56.760
going to take a quick break and when we get back,

1369
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:03.359
some more fire in the sky for this. I'm so sorry.

1370
01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:16.000
All Right, we're back and this story comes from East

1371
01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:25.399
Idaho News dot com and it's out of Utah. Oh

1372
01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:29.520
absolutely amazing bright fireball light lit up the night sky

1373
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:32.119
and may have been dropped and may have dropped debris

1374
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:38.680
over Utah. So some kind of a crazy thing happened,

1375
01:17:39.279 --> 01:17:43.760
like a meteorite, very bright. Uh. I think I can

1376
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:47.359
show it to you, Chelle, can't show it to anybody else.

1377
01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:51.119
But you know, but so apparently wow.

1378
01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:54.920
What oh I did see that?

1379
01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:59.479
Yeah? Yeah, right, that was like a big like bright light.

1380
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:02.680
I don't know, I'm not doing a very good job

1381
01:18:02.680 --> 01:18:04.960
of describing it. It was a big bright light.

1382
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:05.880
It was bright.

1383
01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:10.520
Yeah. The night sky above Utah was bright as day

1384
01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:13.840
for just a moment early Thursday, as a suspected meteor

1385
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:17.600
burned its way into the atmosphere. Space experts say the

1386
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:20.319
flash of light was most likely a meteor burning up

1387
01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:24.239
as it slammed into Earth's atmosphere, creating what's known as

1388
01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:27.760
a fireball. Why are you that's a great line. What's

1389
01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:29.960
known as a fireball? Why are you shaking your head?

1390
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:34.239
I'm pretty sure when it enters Earth's atmosphere it's a meteorite,

1391
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:36.199
not a meteor anymore.

1392
01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:43.319
Do you know the difference between earth rocks and space rocks? Though? No,

1393
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:46.119
what space rocks are a little meteor.

1394
01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:50.399
Yeah, I thought, but I couldn't like connect it fast enough.

1395
01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:53.880
I think you're right, it becomes a meteorite. But then again,

1396
01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:56.640
it was a meteor until it burned through the atmosphere.

1397
01:18:56.680 --> 01:18:58.560
But then it was a meteorite, and they called it

1398
01:18:58.600 --> 01:18:59.119
a meteor.

1399
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:03.239
Meteor now now we have to find figure this out

1400
01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:04.479
or people will die.

1401
01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:06.880
Huh.

1402
01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:08.840
But then that would make the film meteor.

1403
01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:11.720
Man, wrong, meteorit Man.

1404
01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:18.479
Oh shit, you're wrong. No really, sort of. A meteor

1405
01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:21.840
is the streak of light caused by a space rock

1406
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:27.079
burning up in Earth's atmosphere. A meteorite is the actual

1407
01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:30.760
rock that survives this journey and lands on Earth's surface.

1408
01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:33.920
Interesting, I didn't know that, or I did and I

1409
01:19:33.960 --> 01:19:34.560
messed it up.

1410
01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:40.319
And a meteoroid is uh is the name for the

1411
01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:43.960
object while it is still in space. Okay, all right,

1412
01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:46.920
so yeah, you weren't like totally off. It's just it's

1413
01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:48.520
just the definition was a little different.

1414
01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:49.199
Yeah.

1415
01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:51.479
Often your definition would often apply.

1416
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:53.560
Though if it landed.

1417
01:19:54.039 --> 01:20:01.439
Yeah, that's like all good jokes. Hey. Space experts said

1418
01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:06.359
the flash of light was most likely multiple creating what's

1419
01:20:06.479 --> 01:20:09.960
known as a fireball that kills me. Multiple reports confirmed

1420
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:12.439
the fireball lit up the sky at four fifty AM

1421
01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:16.039
across Utah and neighboring states. Dozens have reported the site

1422
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:21.720
to the American Meteor Society, but the agency hadn't confirmed

1423
01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:25.600
it as a meteor as of Thursday night. Quote. Yeah,

1424
01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:28.439
it was amazing. I will say this. It was absolutely amazing,

1425
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:31.640
said Herb Patterson, who was driving through Spanish Fork at

1426
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:36.279
the time. Patterson described the moment as intense and unexpected.

1427
01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:37.920
It'd be weird if it was like it was intense

1428
01:20:37.960 --> 01:20:41.199
but expected, like I'm used Toke's giant lights exploding in

1429
01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:47.479
the sky. Yeah, but not like that quote quote. I

1430
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:50.359
just see a light that's really dim that started getting

1431
01:20:50.399 --> 01:20:53.279
brighter and brighter and brighter, and I'm thinking to myself,

1432
01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:55.640
what is that? And it was kind of eerie at first,

1433
01:20:55.720 --> 01:20:58.159
he said, And then just the whole sky and all

1434
01:20:58.199 --> 01:21:00.600
the roads and everything around met up for like a

1435
01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:04.960
fraction of a second. Then it was gone. Kind of yeah,

1436
01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:06.520
that would be that'd be wild.

1437
01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:07.640
Yeah. Yeah.

1438
01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:11.840
Video captured in Tool County shows the bright flash cutting

1439
01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:15.319
across the sky, matching reports from drivers and early risers

1440
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:18.680
throughout the region. It's also still unclear whether any piece

1441
01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:21.920
of the meteoroid OH ever reached the ground. Look at

1442
01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:25.079
them using the other words, I'd never hear people say meteoroid.

1443
01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:30.079
Wait, heroid, But it wouldn't be meteoroid because meteoroids are

1444
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:36.159
when they're in space, so would be meteorite if it

1445
01:21:36.239 --> 01:21:39.479
was on the ground. No, I'm confused.

1446
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:43.279
It's still unclear whether any pieces of the meteoroid ever

1447
01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:45.920
reached ground, So it's not clear if the meteoroid became

1448
01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:47.199
a meteorite or not.

1449
01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:49.319
Okay, but wouldn't it just be a meteor that is

1450
01:21:49.359 --> 01:21:50.920
in a meteoroid when it's still in space.

1451
01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:56.119
Yes, but a meteor a meteor is when it's flashing

1452
01:21:56.399 --> 01:21:58.640
in the sky like a shooting star. Is a meteor?

1453
01:21:59.119 --> 01:21:59.920
Oh God, I don't know.

1454
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:03.680
This is hard because the movie meteor Man makes me

1455
01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:06.880
think it's just called a meteor. But clearly also that's

1456
01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:08.479
one of those words. If we said enough, it really

1457
01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:16.239
starts to sound weird media media meteor. According to Jason Trump,

1458
01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:20.840
educational program manager at Clark Planetarium and NASA Solar System Ambassador,

1459
01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:24.680
recovery depends largely on where fragments may have landed. Quote,

1460
01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:26.359
if it landed in an area that has a lot

1461
01:22:26.399 --> 01:22:29.520
of rock, say in one of the canyons of Utah,

1462
01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:32.239
well it's going to be very difficult to find. If

1463
01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:34.600
it landed somewhere like the salt flats, it could be

1464
01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:39.720
recovered like there was a few years ago. The timing

1465
01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:42.560
of the fireball isn't unusual. February through April is what

1466
01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:46.800
NASA refers to as fireball season, when there are increased

1467
01:22:46.840 --> 01:22:51.279
reports of fireballs in the daytime and nighttime skies. That's interesting.

1468
01:22:51.279 --> 01:22:55.000
A lot of college women call spring break fireball season

1469
01:22:55.039 --> 01:23:00.640
two for different reasons. Though. Oh don't know what people

1470
01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:03.079
say when they drink fireballs. I didn't have a joke

1471
01:23:03.159 --> 01:23:05.760
beyond that. Utah is also in the midst of two

1472
01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:14.199
meteor showers. Oh yeah, the Lyrid and etta acharids. But

1473
01:23:14.319 --> 01:23:22.359
experts said this fireball was something different. Oh that's ominous. Yeah,

1474
01:23:22.399 --> 01:23:24.319
something like this would have been a big chunk of

1475
01:23:24.439 --> 01:23:27.319
rock that did not come off of a comet. Trump explained,

1476
01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:30.760
most likely it came from somewhere in the asteroid belt.

1477
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:34.239
He added that this week's fireball is timed nicely with

1478
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:37.560
the recent return of the astronauts aboard NASA's Artemis two mission.

1479
01:23:38.039 --> 01:23:41.039
He said they experienced a similar fiery descent as they

1480
01:23:41.079 --> 01:23:45.279
re entered the atmosphere. Scientists study meteors like Thursday's fireball

1481
01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:48.560
to better understand how to protect astronauts during high speed

1482
01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:54.720
returns to Earth. Yay, that's pretty cool. I do you

1483
01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:58.119
remember on the Simpsons speaking of Artemis too? Do you

1484
01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:00.720
remember there was an episode of the Simpsons are basically

1485
01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:03.359
NASA is trying to figure out how to spice up

1486
01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:07.560
space launches because nobody cares anymore mm hmm, because they

1487
01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:09.000
have the whole the whole guy where they're like, we

1488
01:24:09.039 --> 01:24:10.800
need like an average guy to be on the ship

1489
01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:13.960
to make it more interesting because people are like changing

1490
01:24:13.960 --> 01:24:16.560
the channel when there's space launches. Because that was one

1491
01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:18.520
of the jokes. It's like, oh God, quick, don't make

1492
01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:20.880
me watching they're boring space launch. Chang the channel. Boy.

1493
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:23.640
So but it just made me laugh because when I

1494
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:27.359
heard about the Artemis ship being launched in space, I

1495
01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:29.199
was at the Cigar Lounge and I had never I

1496
01:24:29.199 --> 01:24:32.319
didn't know anything about it at all. Really, I had

1497
01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:34.000
not heard a word about it. It was and I heard

1498
01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:37.119
about it because they were talking about how the presidential

1499
01:24:37.119 --> 01:24:39.319
address was coming up about the launch. I was like,

1500
01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:42.880
what launch. Oh wow, I'd never heard a word about it.

1501
01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:45.039
Wow. Really that's amazing.

1502
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:49.119
Yeah, But it's also funny. It just tells you the

1503
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:50.960
kind of world we live in, because then when I

1504
01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:53.800
hear about it, I'm seeing like the promotional materials, Like

1505
01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:55.640
I saw the picture of like all the astronauts standing

1506
01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:59.319
there and like the cool like you know poses where

1507
01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:01.760
they look all here and everything, and all I'm thinking

1508
01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:03.800
is like, wow, they had to hire a firm to

1509
01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:07.079
take great pictures to make men and women going into

1510
01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:12.920
space interesting enough for people to care. I just we

1511
01:25:13.079 --> 01:25:17.000
just have it very good and we're sad that that

1512
01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:20.000
can't even move the needle for some people. I just

1513
01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:22.159
I just think it's I you'd think that just hearing hey,

1514
01:25:22.199 --> 01:25:26.039
you know, they're going into fucking space, you'd be like WHOA.

1515
01:25:26.119 --> 01:25:27.680
But instead it's like, now we got to like make

1516
01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:30.800
sure we have like a video package and some good posters,

1517
01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:34.119
because otherwise people a gonna be like, Okay, so yeah

1518
01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:39.840
I've been to space. Yeah probably, I don't know. But

1519
01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:42.479
what I do know is that I also don't know

1520
01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:46.920
enough about Lake Lake Lanier. So we're gonna be talking

1521
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:49.439
all about that right after this break. And I'm really

1522
01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:52.359
curious about it because last month we started talking about

1523
01:25:52.359 --> 01:25:55.399
it and realized it was a giant rabbit hole. So

1524
01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:06.880
we're diving into that right after this. Now we're talking

1525
01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:11.159
about Lake Lanier, which is one of America's most beautiful

1526
01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:16.640
and unsettling man made lakes, built over flooded towns, roads

1527
01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:21.279
cemeteries and pieces of Georgia history that never fully disappeared

1528
01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:25.800
beneath water. Over the decades, its tragic accidents, eerie legends

1529
01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:28.600
and dark origin story have turned it into a place

1530
01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:32.239
where the past feels like it's still waiting just below

1531
01:26:32.279 --> 01:26:36.479
the surface. That was pretty good breakdown of it. Yeah,

1532
01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:40.439
so we're diving into a Guardian article about Lake Lanier.

1533
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:42.239
We talked about it a little bit before when we

1534
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:46.479
discussed a young man dying in a shocking accident there

1535
01:26:46.560 --> 01:26:50.479
when he was twenty seven years old. Apparently it's just

1536
01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:54.880
insanely accident prone and freaky Lake Lanear.

1537
01:26:55.239 --> 01:26:57.600
But I think like what we heard was mostly like

1538
01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:01.720
people getting hit by boats and shit, don't do that.

1539
01:27:03.279 --> 01:27:09.119
People with your boat. The drowning numbers are insane because

1540
01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:12.239
it was according to George's Department of Natural Resources, the

1541
01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:15.119
authority responsible for policing lake, two hundred and thirty three

1542
01:27:15.159 --> 01:27:19.880
of the deaths out of seven hundred reported fatalities, two

1543
01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:21.439
hundred and thirty three of them were just in the

1544
01:27:21.479 --> 01:27:25.079
last twenty years. Wait. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy when you

1545
01:27:25.079 --> 01:27:27.960
think about like we have floaties and stuff.

1546
01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:30.279
Now, like, yeah, but you have to wear them otherwise

1547
01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:31.119
it doesn't work.

1548
01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:36.920
You're always hung up in details. So this next section

1549
01:27:37.039 --> 01:27:41.039
is called three Sides of Violence. Okay, this is about

1550
01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:46.039
the development of Lanier. Rain spits down from slate gray

1551
01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:48.960
sky as I meet Khan a few days before Halloween

1552
01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:51.319
at a floating tiki bar on the lake's southern end.

1553
01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:54.279
And though they're doing what whoa.

1554
01:27:54.239 --> 01:27:56.640
There's like floating tiki bars in the lake?

1555
01:27:57.279 --> 01:28:01.199
Yeah, don't do you have lakes with out floating tiki bars.

1556
01:28:01.399 --> 01:28:04.199
I've never been to a wake that things.

1557
01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:10.039
That's sad. Yeah, man, now I feel bad for you.

1558
01:28:10.359 --> 01:28:13.199
It's okay, It's just part of my life.

1559
01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:18.560
Man, wait to bring the mood down. Yeah. And though

1560
01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:20.880
there aren't more than a handful of customers on this

1561
01:28:21.159 --> 01:28:24.880
bitterly cold for Georgia afternoon, it's not hard to imagine

1562
01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:28.560
the humanity that engulfs this place in summer months, waves

1563
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:30.840
of people rushing back and forth from the bar to

1564
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:35.319
the armada of pleasure crafts bobbing alongside the dock outside.

1565
01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:39.359
Unless you're a Georgian born after nineteen ninety eight, commandeering

1566
01:28:39.399 --> 01:28:42.239
a rental does not require much more than some credit card.

1567
01:28:42.319 --> 01:28:45.319
Room An hour on the water can range from seventy

1568
01:28:45.359 --> 01:28:48.319
five dollars on a jet ski to six hundred dollars

1569
01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:53.319
for a pontoon, and buyers should be aware of traffic. Quote,

1570
01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:56.600
you're navigating around people zooming around you on jet skis

1571
01:28:56.640 --> 01:28:58.640
and people who don't know how to drive a boat,

1572
01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:02.479
con says as he eases his double decker pontoon out

1573
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:05.439
of the lifeless marina. On top of that, you have

1574
01:29:05.479 --> 01:29:08.840
to reckon with the spirit of alcohol, the ultimate spirit.

1575
01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:12.399
I like that guy. Yeah, I'm talking about if it's

1576
01:29:12.399 --> 01:29:15.600
haunted and he's like the spirit of alcohol, that's the spirit. Yeah.

1577
01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:17.199
Have you ever rented a pontoon boat?

1578
01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:22.720
Not no, but no, but other people have rented them,

1579
01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:24.359
and then I've probably been on them.

1580
01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:26.239
I mean that that counts.

1581
01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:27.000
Okay?

1582
01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:28.960
Was it? Was it? Cool?

1583
01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:30.399
I don't remember.

1584
01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:35.439
I think you're so spoiled. Yeah, I've never been on

1585
01:29:35.479 --> 01:29:45.159
a pontoon boat. Sorry, hurtful, A sturdy ex marine who

1586
01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:48.119
slicks his cropped silver mane back into a mini man

1587
01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:51.880
bun in sports Air. Jordan Sneakers at Sea Cohn aka

1588
01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:56.039
Captain Dave started operating themed boat tours on the lake

1589
01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:59.720
around his tech job day job about twenty years ago,

1590
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:04.319
and he leans into the Lake's folklore for his ghost tours. Woh,

1591
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:10.520
this guy sounds pretty cool, Captain Dave, that's cool. Yeah, okay, fine,

1592
01:30:10.600 --> 01:30:12.359
you don't have to like anything about this lake.

1593
01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:14.119
I guess yeah, I don't.

1594
01:30:15.199 --> 01:30:18.199
Before we get to talking con who is who is white?

1595
01:30:18.319 --> 01:30:21.000
Asks how deep do you want to go? Because there's

1596
01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:24.880
a lot of uncomfortable racial truths to the story. After

1597
01:30:24.920 --> 01:30:27.279
I tell him that I made the ninety minute schlep

1598
01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:31.079
from the city expressly for his unvarnished version of the legend,

1599
01:30:31.359 --> 01:30:33.720
he busts out a leather bound replica book from the

1600
01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:39.800
Disney movie hocus Pocus, where he collects scary stories. I

1601
01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:42.119
like it. It's like who is White? And then it's like, anyway,

1602
01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:44.159
I'm in Georgia and use the word schlep, so you

1603
01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:46.119
know my race too? Like you just want to make

1604
01:30:46.159 --> 01:30:47.479
sure everybody's covered.

1605
01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:48.000
Yes.

1606
01:30:48.920 --> 01:30:53.560
Sometimes he'll pass around handheld electromagnetic field meters to passengers,

1607
01:30:53.640 --> 01:30:57.159
keen for a true ghost hunt when I ask if,

1608
01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:00.439
When I ask if the curse has a proper origin story,

1609
01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:05.720
he describes Lake Lanier's waters as a triangle of dark energy,

1610
01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:10.279
each of its three sides, reminding us of ugly American history.

1611
01:31:10.640 --> 01:31:18.319
That echoes into present day. I like, you're like so

1612
01:31:18.479 --> 01:31:20.520
skeptical of this whole thing. You're like, I don't trust

1613
01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:23.399
Captain Dave. I don't trust a tiki bar in the water.

1614
01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:25.720
I don't know how if I trust any of this lake.

1615
01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:26.600
We'll see.

1616
01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:30.520
Yeah. Well, actually I don't dislike Captain Dave or anything,

1617
01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:33.520
but I dislike the tiki bar. I just think alcohol.

1618
01:31:34.520 --> 01:31:37.399
These people are drowning a lot here. We don't we

1619
01:31:37.439 --> 01:31:37.960
don't want that.

1620
01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:41.680
Those things again, you're just jealous. I can tell of

1621
01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:47.600
bar floating on stupid. They even have a spot called

1622
01:31:47.640 --> 01:31:49.960
Buford Dam, which I think is the coolest name for

1623
01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:54.920
a damn Buford Damn. I guess, man, See, this is

1624
01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:57.960
what I'm dealing with, guys when I ask if the

1625
01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:00.159
curse oh sorry uh. The first side of one of

1626
01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:03.239
the triangle is the violence committed against the Cherokee and

1627
01:32:03.359 --> 01:32:07.000
Creek Indian tribes who have called this area home for millennia.

1628
01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:10.840
When white settlers found or in the nearby Blue Ridge

1629
01:32:10.840 --> 01:32:13.800
Mountains in the eighteen twenties, kicking off the First American

1630
01:32:13.840 --> 01:32:17.199
gold Rush, the US government drove those native inhabitants from

1631
01:32:17.239 --> 01:32:21.199
their land westward into Alabama. The Arkansas territories and what

1632
01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:25.680
would become Oklahoma. What was touted at the time as

1633
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:29.239
manifest destiny would be remembered as the Trail of Tears,

1634
01:32:29.640 --> 01:32:33.039
one of the worst forced migrations in history, with sixty

1635
01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:37.039
thousand Native Americans displaced and more than four thousand killed.

1636
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:40.760
One documented Trail of Tears removal route ended at what

1637
01:32:40.840 --> 01:32:46.159
is now the lake's western bank. Ah ooh. The second

1638
01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:49.560
side of Khan's dark energy triangle is the lake's connection

1639
01:32:49.720 --> 01:32:54.119
to the Civil War. Quote pain and sorrow that is

1640
01:32:54.159 --> 01:32:58.079
still underneath the water, he says. Before the Army Corps

1641
01:32:58.119 --> 01:33:01.279
flooded the area to make Lanier in nineteen fifty six,

1642
01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:04.239
it attempted to move the graves of soldiers who had

1643
01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:08.439
been buried there into nearby cemeteries, but left behind many

1644
01:33:08.600 --> 01:33:15.319
unmarked and abandoned sites to be submerged. Hmmm, the last side,

1645
01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:19.000
excuse me? The last site is Oscarville, a town settled

1646
01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:22.720
after the war by many black sharecroppers and skilled laborers

1647
01:33:22.960 --> 01:33:27.279
that became the backdrop of post reconstruction era racial backlash.

1648
01:33:27.399 --> 01:33:30.600
The community was thriving, says Foster, who came across the

1649
01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:37.000
story in her research, and then the violence started oh uh. Oh,

1650
01:33:37.520 --> 01:33:40.800
So this is really interesting because America has a lot

1651
01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:45.319
of folklore around flooding towns to create bodies of water,

1652
01:33:47.960 --> 01:33:49.880
more than you might think, and often they have the

1653
01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:55.039
same elements, like when the water level's really low, you

1654
01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:57.399
can see the top of a church steeple and stuff

1655
01:33:57.439 --> 01:33:58.960
like that, and a lot of that stuff isn't true.

1656
01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:01.960
It's just that you can see the church. People.

1657
01:34:02.199 --> 01:34:05.359
Yeah, there could have just never been one, or maybe

1658
01:34:05.399 --> 01:34:10.960
it was torn down, but it's because people want Because

1659
01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:14.199
a lot of times when they flood towns valley towns,

1660
01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:18.319
everybody's gone and most of it was already in disrepair anyway. Like,

1661
01:34:18.359 --> 01:34:20.840
it's very rare that many people are I mean, it

1662
01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:23.800
does happen, but it's rare that people are really being displaced.

1663
01:34:24.319 --> 01:34:27.640
Most people have already left because it's just not working.

1664
01:34:28.039 --> 01:34:31.239
I know a town in New York that they had

1665
01:34:31.279 --> 01:34:34.760
to flood because something about the aqueducts I don't remember.

1666
01:34:35.479 --> 01:34:38.960
And that was a full thriving town sure, And so

1667
01:34:39.079 --> 01:34:41.880
what they did is everyone just moved all of the buildings.

1668
01:34:42.640 --> 01:34:45.479
They moved the entire town. It was really cool.

1669
01:34:45.840 --> 01:34:47.279
Actually, yeah, that is cool.

1670
01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:51.079
Yeah, they like moved them all and they moved them

1671
01:34:51.119 --> 01:34:53.439
super slow, so like there were people who were like

1672
01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:55.680
living and going to school in the buildings as they

1673
01:34:55.720 --> 01:34:58.279
were very slowly being moved up the hill.

1674
01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:01.880
Yeah, it was pretty cool. There was one I saw

1675
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:04.920
I wish the name is escaping me right now. One

1676
01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:09.119
in Pennsylvania on the western side of PA. But uh,

1677
01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:12.640
there were all these legends about like people drowning and stuff.

1678
01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:16.000
But then when you looked into it, the vill the

1679
01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:18.760
valley had been flooding on and off for years, so

1680
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:22.279
basically everybody left because it was annoying and then fine,

1681
01:35:22.359 --> 01:35:25.399
and then flooding it intentionally was the way of kind

1682
01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:29.960
of like ending the trouble. But it's easy to when

1683
01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:34.000
you hear flooded town, it makes your mind think of stuff,

1684
01:35:34.159 --> 01:35:36.039
you know, it's creepy out I was saying. This one

1685
01:35:36.079 --> 01:35:39.520
is clearly a bigger flooding operation than some of these

1686
01:35:39.520 --> 01:35:43.000
other ones. Most of them are small towns, very small towns.

1687
01:35:43.479 --> 01:35:46.800
But it's just interesting how when you cover a town

1688
01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:50.520
and water it makes all kinds of things float to

1689
01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:53.399
the top. Oh, I'm so good at this. We're going

1690
01:35:53.479 --> 01:35:55.560
to take a quick break and when we get back,

1691
01:35:55.600 --> 01:35:57.840
we're going to keep going. I almost sad dive deeper

1692
01:35:57.880 --> 01:36:01.079
which would have been better into lake Land after this,

1693
01:36:01.159 --> 01:36:12.000
and Cell will keep being hateful about it all. As

1694
01:36:12.039 --> 01:36:16.319
we continue our deep dive into Lake Lanier, I'm hoping

1695
01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:19.640
that during the commercial break, Cell may be eased up

1696
01:36:19.640 --> 01:36:22.039
a little bit. She's been really judgy about this lake

1697
01:36:22.119 --> 01:36:25.319
and I'm not exactly sure what it did to you,

1698
01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:29.640
but you are very like harsh on this one.

1699
01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:32.159
I've been very fair about this lake.

1700
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:36.600
Wow, she can't even see it. That's how blind she

1701
01:36:36.760 --> 01:36:43.439
is to her hatred. Let's see. So the last side

1702
01:36:43.479 --> 01:36:45.720
of the lake, as we were talking about, is Oscarville,

1703
01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:48.760
a town settled after the War by many black sharecroppers

1704
01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:53.760
and skilled laborers. During the post reconstruction era quote the

1705
01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:57.760
community was thriving, says Foster, and then violence started. In

1706
01:36:57.840 --> 01:37:00.800
nineteen twelve, local black men were accused of raping two

1707
01:37:00.840 --> 01:37:04.359
young white women, one of them, May Crow, died two

1708
01:37:04.439 --> 01:37:08.760
weeks after her alleged attack. The incident's royal white residence

1709
01:37:08.800 --> 01:37:12.479
into violence. One black suspect was shot and lynched by

1710
01:37:12.479 --> 01:37:17.039
white mobs while awaiting trial. The two men found guilty

1711
01:37:17.079 --> 01:37:20.600
of Crow's sexual assault and murder after a day long trial,

1712
01:37:20.640 --> 01:37:23.840
were sentenced to death by hanging, even though it was

1713
01:37:23.960 --> 01:37:29.199
outlawed in Georgia at the time. Oh yeah, hanging was

1714
01:37:29.319 --> 01:37:31.840
pretty out of favor in the early nineteen hundreds everywhere.

1715
01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:35.279
I feel like, if you kill people in a way

1716
01:37:35.319 --> 01:37:39.479
that's outlawed, did that mean then you broke the law

1717
01:37:40.199 --> 01:37:43.000
and then you have to go to jail.

1718
01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:45.319
I guess they have to kill you too. But if

1719
01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:47.000
they hang you as well, that it creates a never

1720
01:37:47.119 --> 01:37:52.319
ending cycle of then that person has to get It's

1721
01:37:52.439 --> 01:37:54.279
it's weird, the idea of like, you killed him, not

1722
01:37:54.319 --> 01:37:56.079
in the legal way, you're allowed to kill him. It's

1723
01:37:56.119 --> 01:37:58.800
it's weird. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not a fan

1724
01:37:58.840 --> 01:38:01.319
of the capital punishment and I think it's way too.

1725
01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:10.159
That slope is pretty slippery to make just saying. According

1726
01:38:10.159 --> 01:38:12.680
to the twenty sixteen book Blood at the Root, which

1727
01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:17.319
author in which author Patrick Phillips unpacks this painful history,

1728
01:38:17.600 --> 01:38:20.359
white men on horseback, operating as enforcers for the Ku

1729
01:38:20.399 --> 01:38:24.079
Klux Klan then banded together to drive black residents out

1730
01:38:24.119 --> 01:38:27.840
of town, setting fire to their homes, businesses, and churches.

1731
01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:33.159
In twenty twenty two, Atlanta resident George Rucker, whose Oscarville

1732
01:38:33.239 --> 01:38:36.920
roots go back four generations, recalled the story he grew

1733
01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:40.800
up hearing about his great grandfather's daring escape after the

1734
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:44.720
Crow Trials, about his family being chased by an angry mob,

1735
01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:48.359
the mob blocking access to a bridge across the Chattahoochee,

1736
01:38:48.680 --> 01:38:54.800
and the options being swim or drown. I know, I

1737
01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:57.720
feel like that's always the option, though, I mean, yeah,

1738
01:38:57.720 --> 01:39:01.600
if you're in the water. Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean

1739
01:39:01.640 --> 01:39:03.560
I was always more afraid of the option of calk

1740
01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:06.640
the wagon and float or ford the river. If you

1741
01:39:06.680 --> 01:39:12.359
ever played you never played the Oregon Trail, No I did.

1742
01:39:12.439 --> 01:39:15.159
I just played it really badly, so I don't even

1743
01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:16.720
remember anything except.

1744
01:39:16.439 --> 01:39:22.319
For dying a lot, getting dysentery every time. Yeah, his

1745
01:39:22.439 --> 01:39:25.680
grandfather did not make it. The main thing they left

1746
01:39:25.800 --> 01:39:29.079
was property, Rucker told eleven Alive dot com. And my

1747
01:39:29.159 --> 01:39:33.119
grandfather had one hundred acres. Oh that's a lot of

1748
01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:34.239
land to have to let go of.

1749
01:39:34.760 --> 01:39:36.760
Yeah.

1750
01:39:36.800 --> 01:39:40.640
Within two months, Oscarville's black population, which accounted for ten

1751
01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:44.439
percent of residents or about one one hundred people, was

1752
01:39:44.520 --> 01:39:47.840
reduced to naught. And while the sexual assaults are off

1753
01:39:47.920 --> 01:39:51.199
cited as the impetus for the racial terrorism, blood at

1754
01:39:51.239 --> 01:39:54.840
the root traces the racial tension to the economic stress

1755
01:39:54.840 --> 01:39:58.119
that gripped Georgia at the time. As white farmers lost

1756
01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:01.079
their lands to foreclosure, they came to see the free

1757
01:40:01.119 --> 01:40:05.359
black people as an existential threat. White residents took possession

1758
01:40:05.399 --> 01:40:09.840
of significant portions of the deserted land, sometimes for no compensation.

1759
01:40:10.439 --> 01:40:13.399
But after Congress passed the River and Harbor Act of

1760
01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:17.520
nineteen forty six to address a national flash flooding crisis,

1761
01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:20.920
paving the way for the construction of George's Buford Dam

1762
01:40:21.039 --> 01:40:25.000
Told You and the creation of Lake Lanier, hundreds of

1763
01:40:25.039 --> 01:40:28.560
white residents found themselves forced to sell their ill gotten

1764
01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:32.159
land for cents on the dollar as the government claimed

1765
01:40:32.199 --> 01:40:33.159
eminent domain.

1766
01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:34.479
Wow.

1767
01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:37.600
See, no matter how big a bully you are, there's

1768
01:40:37.680 --> 01:40:39.199
always a bigger bully.

1769
01:40:39.560 --> 01:40:39.920
Yep.

1770
01:40:41.880 --> 01:40:44.760
I actually think that's kind of a beautiful sentiment though.

1771
01:40:44.800 --> 01:40:48.840
It's like, we're a big group of tough people. We're

1772
01:40:48.840 --> 01:40:50.960
gonna force people out, hurt them, and steal their stuff.

1773
01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:53.079
And then the federal governments like, we are literally the

1774
01:40:53.079 --> 01:40:56.439
biggest gang ever known ever and we're legal and we're

1775
01:40:56.560 --> 01:41:01.560
kicking you out for realm Yeah. Yeah, that's yeah, that's

1776
01:41:01.640 --> 01:41:04.800
that's the way it goes. Quote the first guy that

1777
01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:10.359
sold got four thousand dollars for one hundred acres.

1778
01:41:11.279 --> 01:41:12.760
I don't know how much money that.

1779
01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:16.560
Is in current It's like, imagine one dollar, but it's

1780
01:41:16.560 --> 01:41:23.920
four thousand of them. Wow, fabulously wealthy. I could do

1781
01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:30.119
the calculation real quick. Four thousand dollars in nineteen forty

1782
01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:38.000
six worth today that would be sixty seven, seven hundred

1783
01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:39.000
and thirty six dollars.

1784
01:41:39.079 --> 01:41:40.039
Oh that's terrible.

1785
01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:43.960
Yeah. Oh do you mean the purchase price or how

1786
01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:45.039
bad inflation has been.

1787
01:41:46.359 --> 01:41:47.960
I was gonna say the purchase price, but we could

1788
01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:48.680
do both if you want.

1789
01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:49.600
Yeah, I think it's both.

1790
01:41:49.920 --> 01:41:51.239
Yeah.

1791
01:41:51.600 --> 01:41:55.960
No, but that's yeah. That tells you that's that's nothing. Yeah,

1792
01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:59.119
says Lisa M. Russell, a scholar and author who has

1793
01:41:59.119 --> 01:42:04.319
written five book books on Georgia's hidden history. Quote. That

1794
01:42:04.439 --> 01:42:06.680
seems like maybe it was a lot for them because

1795
01:42:06.720 --> 01:42:09.319
they never had money in their land. But they couldn't

1796
01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:11.479
rent a place. They couldn't even go back to the

1797
01:42:11.560 --> 01:42:14.239
land around the New Lake and rent a house because

1798
01:42:14.239 --> 01:42:16.600
the prices had already gone through the roof.

1799
01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:17.880
Wow.

1800
01:42:18.960 --> 01:42:21.079
Yeah, they're like, well, we wanted to move back near

1801
01:42:21.119 --> 01:42:25.319
where we were, Well, you can't. This is waterfront you know.

1802
01:42:28.960 --> 01:42:31.680
Lake Lanier was never supposed to be the most popular

1803
01:42:31.720 --> 01:42:34.279
man made lake in America, as the New York Times

1804
01:42:34.319 --> 01:42:38.840
declared it in nineteen seventy one, touting its vibrant boating, fishing,

1805
01:42:38.880 --> 01:42:42.399
and camping scene. Planned in conjunction with the Buford Dam

1806
01:42:42.439 --> 01:42:44.720
in nineteen fifty six at a cost of seven hundred

1807
01:42:44.720 --> 01:42:48.640
and fifty thousand dollars, a bargain even with inflation. The

1808
01:42:48.760 --> 01:42:51.600
lake was intended as a flood control solution that would

1809
01:42:51.640 --> 01:42:56.520
also address Metro Atlanta's fresh water demands. So that all

1810
01:42:56.520 --> 01:42:57.039
makes sense.

1811
01:42:57.319 --> 01:42:58.880
Yeah, yeah.

1812
01:42:58.920 --> 01:43:02.560
To save money, the arm Core compacted layers of soil, clay,

1813
01:43:02.560 --> 01:43:06.239
and rock to form the basin and surrounding embankments instead

1814
01:43:06.279 --> 01:43:09.720
of completely raising and overlaying the area in concrete. It

1815
01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:12.039
took two and a half years for Lake Lanier to

1816
01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:15.159
reach its full pool level. In the process, tens of

1817
01:43:15.159 --> 01:43:19.039
thousands of acres of farmland, forest, and abandoned towns, including Oscarville,

1818
01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:22.319
were drowned under several hundred billion gallons of river water.

1819
01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:25.279
You were nodding, something hit you.

1820
01:43:25.960 --> 01:43:28.520
Oh, I just don't like that all the trees dround.

1821
01:43:29.640 --> 01:43:36.720
Oh I'm sorry, pal. Thanks, It's tough out there. It

1822
01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:39.159
is in Lake Lanier. It is.

1823
01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:42.640
It's mean they should have at least moved all of

1824
01:43:42.680 --> 01:43:43.880
the trees first.

1825
01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:46.960
That wouldn't have been a massive job.

1826
01:43:47.239 --> 01:43:48.239
That's what I would do.

1827
01:43:49.319 --> 01:43:52.720
That's I believe you. Thanks. We're gonna take a quick

1828
01:43:52.720 --> 01:43:55.399
break and keep learning about Lake Lanier and hopefully get

1829
01:43:55.439 --> 01:44:09.000
to some ghosts. Damn it. Right after this, Michelle, Yeah,

1830
01:44:09.039 --> 01:44:11.319
do you know about the Lady of the Lake?

1831
01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:15.720
I mean the one that is in the lake?

1832
01:44:15.920 --> 01:44:25.560
Or which one the one in the lake? Gosh? Back

1833
01:44:25.600 --> 01:44:28.920
to our article about Lake Lanier. It starts with quote,

1834
01:44:29.199 --> 01:44:31.600
you know the Lady of the lake? Story? Right, con

1835
01:44:31.680 --> 01:44:34.760
asks me mid cruise. That's the one about the two

1836
01:44:34.800 --> 01:44:37.680
women who took off from a filling station without paying

1837
01:44:37.720 --> 01:44:40.479
their gas bill, lost control of their car over a

1838
01:44:40.560 --> 01:44:44.159
bridge and plunged to their death in nineteen fifty eight.

1839
01:44:44.880 --> 01:44:46.159
That's what you get.

1840
01:44:46.399 --> 01:44:49.960
Yeah, they stole over two and a half dollars worth

1841
01:44:49.960 --> 01:44:50.640
of gasoline.

1842
01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:51.880
Oh my god, or.

1843
01:44:51.840 --> 01:44:55.439
With inflation, one point seventy five million dollars in gasoline.

1844
01:44:55.520 --> 01:44:55.840
God.

1845
01:44:57.880 --> 01:45:01.199
The body of the driver, Delia Darker Young, was later

1846
01:45:01.279 --> 01:45:04.439
found with missing hands. That's strange.

1847
01:45:05.560 --> 01:45:07.079
Not if they were in the water and something in

1848
01:45:07.279 --> 01:45:10.159
the hands yeah.

1849
01:45:09.359 --> 01:45:10.760
Did you say something or someone?

1850
01:45:11.359 --> 01:45:13.159
I said something, but I mean.

1851
01:45:14.039 --> 01:45:15.840
I was worried. You said someone ate the hands. I

1852
01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:19.279
was like, what the hell show. Over the ensuing years,

1853
01:45:19.319 --> 01:45:22.359
a number of late lakegoers would report seeing such a

1854
01:45:22.359 --> 01:45:26.920
figure missing hands and all haunting the area in a

1855
01:45:26.960 --> 01:45:35.560
blue dress. No hands, look, mom, no hands, with some

1856
01:45:35.800 --> 01:45:39.600
accusing the phantom of pulling others under water with no hands.

1857
01:45:40.159 --> 01:45:44.079
No hands, Come on, no messing. No, we just learned

1858
01:45:44.079 --> 01:45:45.399
about someone who's shot a gun.

1859
01:45:45.880 --> 01:45:49.520
Shot a gun while driving with no hands, no legs.

1860
01:45:49.640 --> 01:46:00.960
It's possible. I guess all things are possible. Apparently, I'm learning. Quote.

1861
01:46:01.279 --> 01:46:03.720
That's the bridge the car went off of, Con said,

1862
01:46:03.760 --> 01:46:06.920
pointing to the Jackson Bridge in the distance. You mean

1863
01:46:06.960 --> 01:46:11.039
the bridge I drove across to get here, right, Con says.

1864
01:46:12.640 --> 01:46:14.279
He goes on to tell me that the bridge was

1865
01:46:14.319 --> 01:46:17.800
also the site of the deadliest single incident on Lake Lanier,

1866
01:46:18.239 --> 01:46:20.920
when a station wagon went off the bridge on Christmas

1867
01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:25.159
Day nineteen sixty four with eleven people inside.

1868
01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:28.439
Wow, that's a lot of people, you believe a station wagon.

1869
01:46:28.640 --> 01:46:31.039
Yeah, I like that. We both had the exact say, thought, wow,

1870
01:46:31.079 --> 01:46:35.720
that's so many people in one station wagon. Seven died

1871
01:46:35.880 --> 01:46:37.960
five of them small children. Well, there you go.

1872
01:46:38.359 --> 01:46:42.840
H you know, I just pecked him in there, huh.

1873
01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:44.760
It said the driver of the station wagon, mister Brown,

1874
01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:49.159
who had been drinking quote rotgut whiskey. According to reports

1875
01:46:49.159 --> 01:46:53.119
from the day, haunts the lake too. Sometimes con will

1876
01:46:53.159 --> 01:46:56.000
stop his tours at the bridge, kill the engine, and

1877
01:46:56.039 --> 01:47:00.520
pull out a flask for a bit more theater. Quote.

1878
01:47:00.600 --> 01:47:03.159
I'll say, all right, mister Brown, I'm gonna give you

1879
01:47:03.199 --> 01:47:04.920
a little drink here if you want to let us

1880
01:47:04.920 --> 01:47:08.119
know you're around. That's when the guests all pull out

1881
01:47:08.159 --> 01:47:14.640
their ghost meters configures. There are twenty seven unaccounted for

1882
01:47:14.800 --> 01:47:18.600
bodies in Lake Lanier. If Buchanan, the emergency driver, knows

1883
01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:21.640
of at least quote twelve bodies in that lake right

1884
01:47:21.680 --> 01:47:27.479
now that have never been found. Wow, So this is

1885
01:47:27.520 --> 01:47:29.840
one of those where really like they just keep digging

1886
01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:33.520
up more, you know, it's just like, here's some more tragedy,

1887
01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:34.760
and here's some other tragedies.

1888
01:47:35.319 --> 01:47:35.560
Yeah.

1889
01:47:36.119 --> 01:47:40.680
Lake Lanier's congested subsurface environment and rough topography is not

1890
01:47:40.840 --> 01:47:45.279
all that makes recovery operations especially challenging. Years of pollution

1891
01:47:45.479 --> 01:47:51.720
only add to the murky picture. Ew yeah, quote picture.

1892
01:47:51.800 --> 01:47:55.600
Sixty years of beer cans, says Goss, the DNR corporal.

1893
01:47:56.039 --> 01:47:59.159
My god, do people pollute. I've found fishing equipment at

1894
01:47:59.159 --> 01:48:02.000
the bottom of the lake, old metal boats that have sunk,

1895
01:48:02.319 --> 01:48:04.880
fallen rocks and timber. It's all down there and can

1896
01:48:04.920 --> 01:48:06.479
really hide what you're looking for.

1897
01:48:07.600 --> 01:48:09.600
I mean, also, there's like a whole forest under there.

1898
01:48:10.399 --> 01:48:14.319
Well, it's probably gone by now, I mean it's been

1899
01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:16.960
seven years, I.

1900
01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:22.560
Guess, but it's debris down there from the yahs things.

1901
01:48:23.359 --> 01:48:26.800
Goss is often early on scene for drowning incidents, in

1902
01:48:26.840 --> 01:48:30.720
addition to operating various echolocation readers as part of DNR's

1903
01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:34.079
sonar team. He approached he operates one of the department's

1904
01:48:34.159 --> 01:48:38.520
underwater remote vehicles, a bulky contraption with a camera, lights,

1905
01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:41.239
and gripper that is about the size of a fancy

1906
01:48:41.359 --> 01:48:47.039
espresso machine. That's the way to nail that one. When

1907
01:48:47.079 --> 01:48:50.720
twenty seven year old Ramon Diaz Soria went missing in

1908
01:48:50.800 --> 01:48:53.520
June near a white sand beach on the lake's western

1909
01:48:53.520 --> 01:48:56.079
shore after jumping off the side of a boat for fun.

1910
01:48:56.399 --> 01:48:57.560
I love that they put for fun.

1911
01:48:58.479 --> 01:48:59.920
Yeah yeah, well, yeah yeah.

1912
01:49:01.119 --> 01:49:04.560
Goss was on site shortly thereafter, performing surveys of the

1913
01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:09.439
disappearance area past nightfall and into the next day. After

1914
01:49:09.479 --> 01:49:12.520
a twenty four hour search with three drones, Goss's team

1915
01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:18.319
found Diazsoria sixty feet underwater. Wo Yeah. The gripper drone

1916
01:49:18.439 --> 01:49:20.960
was not able to latch onto the body because of

1917
01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:24.399
its awkward position, so a diving team was sent down.

1918
01:49:25.119 --> 01:49:29.000
Witnesses told authorities that Diazsoria had worn a life jacket

1919
01:49:29.039 --> 01:49:32.880
that was not properly secured. They said it floated to

1920
01:49:32.880 --> 01:49:36.119
the surface after he disappeared. That's the worst. Why you

1921
01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:40.720
just find their life best. The story both stoked more

1922
01:49:40.800 --> 01:49:44.439
cursed talk and served as a reminder of human errors

1923
01:49:44.439 --> 01:49:48.960
that are often overlooked in the accounts of Lake Lanier's accidents.

1924
01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:53.760
Lakes and Georgia are not actually very deep. But on

1925
01:49:53.840 --> 01:49:56.720
Lake Lanier you can be thirty feet away from shore

1926
01:49:57.159 --> 01:50:00.159
and your next step might take you sixty feet down

1927
01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:03.560
gos So that's really deep for a lake. Lots of

1928
01:50:03.640 --> 01:50:04.680
lakes aren't very deep.

1929
01:50:05.840 --> 01:50:06.319
I don't know.

1930
01:50:06.840 --> 01:50:09.439
You don't know how deep lakes are. No, that's one

1931
01:50:09.439 --> 01:50:11.720
of those questions like Monty Pyline, How deep is a lake?

1932
01:50:12.279 --> 01:50:15.399
That's it? How deep is a lake? When I went

1933
01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:18.880
ski doing on a giant frozen lake in Michigan. I

1934
01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:20.640
mean the lake you couldn't see one side from the other,

1935
01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:23.680
was probably twenty miles wide. I think they said that

1936
01:50:23.680 --> 01:50:25.600
at its deepest it gets to twelve feet.

1937
01:50:26.439 --> 01:50:27.960
Oh that's not that deep.

1938
01:50:28.399 --> 01:50:33.800
No, I mean it's deep, but it's not that deep. Yeah,

1939
01:50:33.840 --> 01:50:36.239
So yeah, they don't always get that deep. So sixty

1940
01:50:36.239 --> 01:50:37.880
feet deep is pretty deep for a lake.

1941
01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:38.800
Okay.

1942
01:50:40.119 --> 01:50:44.199
The most haunting thing to Tamika Foster about Lake Lanier

1943
01:50:44.399 --> 01:50:47.600
is not the curse, but finding out quote that there

1944
01:50:47.600 --> 01:50:51.000
were tons of fatalities I didn't know about prior to

1945
01:50:51.079 --> 01:50:55.199
her son's vacation there. She accepts the official conclusion that

1946
01:50:55.279 --> 01:50:58.720
the accident resulted in Jeffrey Simmons Hubbard, a family friend,

1947
01:50:58.880 --> 01:51:02.439
jet skiing too to Kyle and a fifteen year old

1948
01:51:02.520 --> 01:51:05.199
girl as their inner tube was being dragged by a

1949
01:51:05.279 --> 01:51:10.640
pontoon boat so they were out tuban quote. He was

1950
01:51:10.680 --> 01:51:12.840
on a jet ski for the first time, having fun,

1951
01:51:12.960 --> 01:51:16.039
zipping around at like sixty seventy miles per hour and

1952
01:51:16.079 --> 01:51:19.319
heading toward the boat, Foster says, But he didn't realize

1953
01:51:19.359 --> 01:51:22.520
there were no breaks that you can't stop on water.

1954
01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:25.119
He tried to divert from the boat, but ended up

1955
01:51:25.159 --> 01:51:28.000
running over the kids. He had no idea. How do

1956
01:51:28.079 --> 01:51:31.319
you not know there's no breaks? I'm sorry?

1957
01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:34.840
What nobody teaches you things before they let you go out.

1958
01:51:35.279 --> 01:51:38.000
They usually tell you, like, they usually tell you like

1959
01:51:38.039 --> 01:51:39.239
five things really quick.

1960
01:51:39.479 --> 01:51:41.880
No, they should you should have to take a class.

1961
01:51:42.520 --> 01:51:44.159
Oh my gosh, you're one of those people.

1962
01:51:44.199 --> 01:51:47.439
Now he just killed some people.

1963
01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:50.239
Oh yeah, so he should take a class.

1964
01:51:51.039 --> 01:51:52.520
No, it's too late for him now.

1965
01:51:52.600 --> 01:51:55.279
Oh oh so he can just have he can just

1966
01:51:55.359 --> 01:51:57.079
ride it anyway then since he yeah, missed up.

1967
01:51:57.119 --> 01:51:59.399
Yeah, no, he already knows what he did, so he

1968
01:51:59.439 --> 01:52:00.840
doesn't need to las anymore.

1969
01:52:01.279 --> 01:52:03.039
I just don't know how you would think that you

1970
01:52:03.079 --> 01:52:06.840
could stop on a like stop hard or anything. I mean, like,

1971
01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:13.359
obviously you'll stop eventually when you stop throttling. But yeesh.

1972
01:52:13.920 --> 01:52:16.600
While the girl did recover, Kyle absorbed the brunt of

1973
01:52:16.640 --> 01:52:18.960
the impact and was pulled from the water with grave

1974
01:52:19.039 --> 01:52:22.439
head injuries. After being airlifted to an Atlanta hospital, he

1975
01:52:22.479 --> 01:52:24.680
was put on life support. When he failed to show

1976
01:52:24.720 --> 01:52:27.760
any signs of improvement. After two weeks, Foster made the

1977
01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:30.720
painful decision to take him off it. Hubbard was found

1978
01:52:30.720 --> 01:52:34.840
guilty of homicide by vessel and reckless boating charges and

1979
01:52:34.920 --> 01:52:37.159
sentenced to four years in prison.

1980
01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:40.279
Wow, that's scary too, though.

1981
01:52:41.159 --> 01:52:44.199
No, that is super scary. Yeah, and we'll dig in

1982
01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:55.479
a little bit more right after this. Back at Lake Lanier. Meanwhile,

1983
01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:57.520
back at Lake Lanier, that's what I should have said.

1984
01:52:58.760 --> 01:53:01.840
Martha Milner, a hired school teacher, has been coming up

1985
01:53:01.880 --> 01:53:05.439
to her grandfather's Lake Linear cabin since she was a girl.

1986
01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:09.439
She remembers summer vacation mornings that started with her grandmother

1987
01:53:09.560 --> 01:53:12.479
packing her a lunch, placing her in a john boat

1988
01:53:12.520 --> 01:53:15.439
off the backyard dock, and pushing her off to spend

1989
01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:18.159
the day exploring the limits of the lake with her

1990
01:53:18.199 --> 01:53:21.800
older brother. It was not until July twenty twenty three,

1991
01:53:21.880 --> 01:53:25.880
when her twenty four year old son Thomas was electrocuted

1992
01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:29.199
after jumping into the lake from that same dock, that

1993
01:53:29.279 --> 01:53:34.279
she began seeing quote so many stories, especially on Facebook,

1994
01:53:34.600 --> 01:53:38.199
about how the lake is haunted and cursed, but it

1995
01:53:38.319 --> 01:53:45.560
was our happy place all those years ago. You're just like,

1996
01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:47.199
who cares? Like you got electrocuted?

1997
01:53:47.239 --> 01:53:49.560
Everybody gets like, no, I'm trying to figure out, like

1998
01:53:49.600 --> 01:53:51.000
how he got electrocuted?

1999
01:53:51.359 --> 01:53:53.239
Oh, docs are have electricity?

2000
01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:54.760
Oh damn.

2001
01:53:55.359 --> 01:53:58.560
Docs are usually lit, and they usually have and they

2002
01:53:58.600 --> 01:54:03.560
usually have power to use things, you know, like cleaning weapons.

2003
01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:06.359
Cleaning weapons.

2004
01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:07.640
Yeah.

2005
01:54:07.840 --> 01:54:11.960
Well, on the show Ozark on Netflix, which really good show,

2006
01:54:12.399 --> 01:54:15.760
that's a way they kill somebody like without getting caught.

2007
01:54:15.880 --> 01:54:18.520
Is they wire They call it wiring a dock. It's

2008
01:54:18.560 --> 01:54:20.960
where you basically make it so one wire is in

2009
01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:24.960
the water and one wire is on the on the ladder.

2010
01:54:25.399 --> 01:54:27.840
So when you touch one while touching, like if you're

2011
01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:29.479
in the water and then you grab the ladder, you

2012
01:54:29.520 --> 01:54:34.359
get electrocuted because it creates the connection. Yeah. So I'm

2013
01:54:34.359 --> 01:54:35.920
assuming it's something along those lines.

2014
01:54:36.039 --> 01:54:37.039
Okay, that makes sense.

2015
01:54:37.720 --> 01:54:41.039
I mean a gang hit, not a accident. Yeah, but

2016
01:54:41.079 --> 01:54:44.720
apparently it happens accidentally. That's why it was like considered

2017
01:54:44.760 --> 01:54:49.560
like the perfect plan. Sometimes the wiring just gets messed up. Yeah,

2018
01:54:49.800 --> 01:54:50.560
it kind of scary.

2019
01:54:51.159 --> 01:54:51.840
Yeah.

2020
01:54:51.880 --> 01:54:56.079
An autopsy report determined that Thomas was electrocuted from electricity

2021
01:54:56.159 --> 01:54:59.359
leaking into the water around the dock. Whether the current

2022
01:54:59.479 --> 01:55:01.920
came from in their electric box or a neighbors no

2023
01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:05.960
one can really say. Quote. I kept reading these articles

2024
01:55:06.039 --> 01:55:09.159
saying a man is electrocuted. No, it wasn't a man.

2025
01:55:09.319 --> 01:55:12.560
It was a kid. It was my kid. Milner says

2026
01:55:13.279 --> 01:55:15.880
she has a point of distinguishing Thomas's death from the

2027
01:55:15.960 --> 01:55:19.800
lake's more reckless incidents, noting he seldom drank and never

2028
01:55:19.920 --> 01:55:23.159
used drugs. Quote. I wanted people to know that it

2029
01:55:23.199 --> 01:55:26.119
was not his fault in any way. She says. He

2030
01:55:26.199 --> 01:55:29.560
did nothing that I haven't done a hundred thousand times before.

2031
01:55:30.359 --> 01:55:31.920
Yeah. Yeah.

2032
01:55:32.800 --> 01:55:37.600
The media attention that Lanier receives pales in comparison to

2033
01:55:38.960 --> 01:55:42.439
other area human man a human made lakes which can

2034
01:55:42.479 --> 01:55:45.840
be just as dangerous. Lake Hartwell, a reservoir on the

2035
01:55:45.880 --> 01:55:49.159
south on the Georgia South Carolina border, had more drowning

2036
01:55:49.159 --> 01:55:52.279
and boting fatalities than Lake Lanier did in twenty twenty four.

2037
01:55:54.159 --> 01:55:57.720
In February, Gary Jones and Jocelyn Wilson, a black couple

2038
01:55:57.760 --> 01:56:01.079
engaged to be married, disappeared as they were celebrating Jones's

2039
01:56:01.119 --> 01:56:06.560
fiftieth birthday on Lake Oconey, the Vericos twenty thousand acre pool,

2040
01:56:08.199 --> 01:56:10.159
an hour east of it, like got confused by an

2041
01:56:10.159 --> 01:56:12.800
hour coming right after that, an hour east of Atlanta

2042
01:56:12.880 --> 01:56:17.680
that shares Lake Lanier's untidy build Quality authorities discovered their

2043
01:56:17.680 --> 01:56:20.760
boats circling near the lake's dam with a large frosted

2044
01:56:20.800 --> 01:56:24.359
chocolate chip cookie on board and dredged up Wilson's body

2045
01:56:24.479 --> 01:56:27.720
the next day. Oh god, Jones's body was found a

2046
01:56:27.800 --> 01:56:35.000
month later by by Buchanan. Incidentally, Wow, jeez. Lanier has

2047
01:56:35.039 --> 01:56:38.319
this reputation, Buchanan says, but it's not well earned for

2048
01:56:38.399 --> 01:56:42.039
this simple reason. We have a lot of uneducated boaters

2049
01:56:42.079 --> 01:56:44.399
who come here, and the amount of accidents we have

2050
01:56:44.479 --> 01:56:47.920
per capita is pretty damn low. See and you were

2051
01:56:47.960 --> 01:56:50.159
mad about how few ghosts there were in that town.

2052
01:56:50.199 --> 01:56:54.680
That was actually plenty of ghosts. I kis per capita.

2053
01:56:55.560 --> 01:56:58.000
Yeah, okay, you're right, per capita.

2054
01:56:58.960 --> 01:57:01.640
Lake Lanier gets all all the publicity because it started

2055
01:57:01.680 --> 01:57:04.039
as a dog and pony show from the very beginning,

2056
01:57:04.079 --> 01:57:07.760
says Russell, the historian. All those other lakes Lake Ocony,

2057
01:57:07.960 --> 01:57:11.119
Lake Altoona, you've never heard of them. Nobody knows how

2058
01:57:11.119 --> 01:57:14.800
they were built. But Lake Lanier, Oh, it's everybody's business.

2059
01:57:15.239 --> 01:57:16.279
Yeah, okay.

2060
01:57:16.840 --> 01:57:18.239
They did make it a big to do when they

2061
01:57:18.239 --> 01:57:22.439
built it, you know. In twenty thirteen, Foster, who lives

2062
01:57:22.439 --> 01:57:25.920
in Atlanta, established Kyle's World Foundation, which keeps her son's

2063
01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:29.600
legacy alive by supporting children in the arts. A decade later,

2064
01:57:29.640 --> 01:57:32.600
she started a petition to drain Lake Lanier to prevent

2065
01:57:32.880 --> 01:57:36.600
more tragic accidents, though she concedes the low odds of

2066
01:57:36.640 --> 01:57:39.359
the state shutting down one of its biggest tourist draws.

2067
01:57:40.560 --> 01:57:43.520
That's a little extreme, yeah, draining.

2068
01:57:43.119 --> 01:57:47.920
It, Yeah, especially since since a lot of these accidents

2069
01:57:47.960 --> 01:57:50.720
were like negligence, you know.

2070
01:57:51.039 --> 01:57:56.680
Unfortunately even her sons with negligence as awful as it is. No, no, no,

2071
01:57:56.760 --> 01:58:00.920
not at all. Yeah, it only takes one on one

2072
01:58:00.960 --> 01:58:05.920
party to be negligent. But like drowning or draining it

2073
01:58:06.039 --> 01:58:11.000
like it's like a reservoir, like it's used to. It

2074
01:58:11.279 --> 01:58:13.600
serves a purpose. It prevents flooding, it helps with like

2075
01:58:13.640 --> 01:58:17.920
it's just draining. It sounds insane and it's huge. Yeah,

2076
01:58:17.960 --> 01:58:22.199
but you know, requiring more safety stuff would be good,

2077
01:58:23.439 --> 01:58:26.079
or you know, or something or making it like you know,

2078
01:58:26.319 --> 01:58:27.960
like you have to get some kind of boating permit

2079
01:58:28.039 --> 01:58:31.520
or you can get fined or something. Yeah, things like that. Yeah,

2080
01:58:31.760 --> 01:58:36.399
but I don't know's that's a little extreme. Then again,

2081
01:58:36.399 --> 01:58:38.359
if my son died there, I'd probably have a very

2082
01:58:38.359 --> 01:58:39.039
different opinion.

2083
01:58:39.359 --> 01:58:39.800
Yeah.

2084
01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:44.399
Yeah, quote, every time there's another fatality, it rehashes everything

2085
01:58:44.479 --> 01:58:47.079
for me. She says it'll be getting better, and then

2086
01:58:47.119 --> 01:58:50.600
I'll hear about another child, another man, another woman. I

2087
01:58:50.600 --> 01:58:53.680
think they really should just excavate it, get all those

2088
01:58:53.720 --> 01:58:56.359
old buildings and trees from down there. At least make

2089
01:58:56.399 --> 01:59:02.319
an attempt, get all the buildings and trees. What what

2090
01:59:02.319 --> 01:59:04.600
would that? Maybe she thinks it's haunted or cursed.

2091
01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:08.600
I think I think I feel I feel bad, same

2092
01:59:08.680 --> 01:59:11.760
as but I think she just needs to see therapists.

2093
01:59:11.800 --> 01:59:14.199
Basically, it's very possible.

2094
01:59:14.600 --> 01:59:15.399
Yeah.

2095
01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:18.680
Less than a year after Kyle's death, Governor George's Governor

2096
01:59:18.760 --> 01:59:23.359
Nathan Dial signed the Kyle Glover Boat Education Law, mandating

2097
01:59:23.399 --> 01:59:26.439
Georgians born after the first of January nineteen ninety eight

2098
01:59:26.760 --> 01:59:30.680
work safe. We don't have to do it. Yeah, complete

2099
01:59:30.720 --> 01:59:33.920
a boating safety education course and carry a boating license

2100
01:59:33.960 --> 01:59:38.000
before operating any motorized watercraft on state waters.

2101
01:59:38.479 --> 01:59:38.800
Okay.

2102
01:59:38.840 --> 01:59:42.840
Good. However, while it was a step toward reducing accidents,

2103
01:59:43.159 --> 01:59:46.239
most visitors to Lake Lanier pour in from neighboring states

2104
01:59:46.439 --> 01:59:49.439
and are only required to watch a fifteen minute safety

2105
01:59:49.520 --> 01:59:54.239
video before they can rent a watercraft. Well, first of all,

2106
01:59:54.239 --> 01:59:58.840
that means we're good. We're still good. But yeah, I

2107
01:59:58.840 --> 02:00:01.560
mean I would think of fifteen minute safety video if

2108
02:00:01.600 --> 02:00:05.199
you actually watch it in are sober, would at least

2109
02:00:05.239 --> 02:00:10.439
tell you like jet skis don't have breaks. Yeah, yeah,

2110
02:00:10.479 --> 02:00:12.079
And I'm not trying to be a jerk. It's just

2111
02:00:13.479 --> 02:00:15.079
I don't know if that guy who hit her son

2112
02:00:15.199 --> 02:00:18.279
was drunk or if he was just reckless, you know,

2113
02:00:18.399 --> 02:00:22.319
just having fun and didn't really think. But like the excuse,

2114
02:00:22.399 --> 02:00:25.920
I didn't know it didn't have breaks, Like I don't

2115
02:00:25.920 --> 02:00:29.079
buy that. I mean, like I don't I don't buy that.

2116
02:00:30.119 --> 02:00:31.159
I mean I kind of buy it.

2117
02:00:31.199 --> 02:00:34.359
But well, I guess my point would be if there

2118
02:00:34.439 --> 02:00:38.880
were a break lever on it that just doesn't do anything.

2119
02:00:39.359 --> 02:00:41.079
But he's on it, riding around and he's like, oh,

2120
02:00:41.119 --> 02:00:42.800
I want to stop, Hey, where's the break. It's like

2121
02:00:44.239 --> 02:00:46.880
your thought was when you're stopping to see if there's

2122
02:00:46.920 --> 02:00:50.399
a break. Yeah, now, you're right, that's all I mean.

2123
02:00:50.399 --> 02:00:52.199
But don't get me wrong, Like it'd be a horrible thing,

2124
02:00:52.239 --> 02:00:54.560
and I'm sure he didn't in no way was malicious.

2125
02:00:55.479 --> 02:00:57.560
It's just tragic, and I'm sure he felt like horrible

2126
02:00:58.039 --> 02:01:01.119
and probably will feel horrible forever. Yeah, over it way

2127
02:01:01.119 --> 02:01:03.760
worse than a four year jail sentence, just having done

2128
02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:04.359
something like that.

2129
02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:05.359
Yeah.

2130
02:01:05.520 --> 02:01:09.720
Yeah, like to keep things light here on monthly spooky.

2131
02:01:09.439 --> 02:01:11.359
Huh, I'm doing a good job.

2132
02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:16.039
At the same time, Georgia introduced another law honoring the

2133
02:01:16.079 --> 02:01:19.279
boys who died just before him, thirteen year old Griffin

2134
02:01:19.319 --> 02:01:22.199
Prince and his nine year old brother Jake, that lowered

2135
02:01:22.199 --> 02:01:25.399
the legal blood oh lowered the legal blood alcohol limit

2136
02:01:25.439 --> 02:01:28.399
for watercraft operators from point one to zero to point eight,

2137
02:01:29.039 --> 02:01:31.840
matching the standard for it was wait, the standard was

2138
02:01:32.720 --> 02:01:35.640
the standard was originally higher than motor vehicles when you're

2139
02:01:35.640 --> 02:01:38.119
on water. That seems crazy, Yeah, it really does. I

2140
02:01:38.119 --> 02:01:41.760
feel like the water is more dangerous because well, but

2141
02:01:41.920 --> 02:01:43.920
think about it this way. If you're really drunk driving

2142
02:01:43.960 --> 02:01:45.920
a car and you were like, I didn't hit anybody,

2143
02:01:46.039 --> 02:01:47.920
but then you just don't think and get out of

2144
02:01:47.920 --> 02:01:52.479
your door and die. Yeah yeah, okay, I I'm just saying, like,

2145
02:01:52.880 --> 02:01:54.560
you know, I think it's a lot easier to pull

2146
02:01:54.560 --> 02:01:56.199
a car into a parking spot than it is to

2147
02:01:56.239 --> 02:01:57.079
pull up to a dock.

2148
02:01:57.680 --> 02:01:58.439
Yeah.

2149
02:01:58.680 --> 02:02:02.760
Yeah, Although if you're drunk enough you pull the boat

2150
02:02:02.800 --> 02:02:06.039
right into the parking space, you're just like, yeah, scraping

2151
02:02:06.119 --> 02:02:07.800
up in there. You're like, all right, time to go

2152
02:02:07.840 --> 02:02:12.600
to Denny's. Still, alcohol consumption remains a perennial problem at

2153
02:02:12.680 --> 02:02:15.039
Lake Laniar, which accounted for one hundred and fifty seven

2154
02:02:15.079 --> 02:02:18.119
combined boating under the influenced citations in twenty twenty three

2155
02:02:18.159 --> 02:02:22.399
and twenty twenty four, the largest share in the state. Wow.

2156
02:02:22.920 --> 02:02:24.560
On the day I met with Cohn, I noticed a

2157
02:02:24.640 --> 02:02:28.199
sign on the gangway curiously leading out from the floating

2158
02:02:28.239 --> 02:02:30.640
tiki bar back to the parking lot that said, please

2159
02:02:30.960 --> 02:02:37.119
no open alcohol on shore shoes. Well, we're going to

2160
02:02:37.119 --> 02:02:40.640
take a quick break and wrap up our investigation of

2161
02:02:40.720 --> 02:02:43.520
sorts into Lake Laniar. I didn't know a lot of this.

2162
02:02:43.560 --> 02:02:47.439
It is really weird. I like the real reality aspect,

2163
02:02:47.560 --> 02:02:51.119
you know. Yeah, but it's it is strange though it

2164
02:02:51.159 --> 02:02:55.439
does seem like there's an awful lot of problems historically,

2165
02:02:55.920 --> 02:02:58.840
Yeah at the lake. Yeah, So we'll talk about that

2166
02:02:58.960 --> 02:03:09.960
right after this, and we're back wrapping up our learning

2167
02:03:10.439 --> 02:03:13.920
experience on Lake Lanier. This is kind of an interesting

2168
02:03:14.359 --> 02:03:18.960
wrapping up point. Quote. I've been doing this a long time,

2169
02:03:19.279 --> 02:03:21.600
and I've had days where I've been like that was

2170
02:03:21.720 --> 02:03:24.479
kind of close. Con says of his frequent run ins

2171
02:03:24.479 --> 02:03:28.159
with reckless boat cruisers. It's always alcohol related. They don't

2172
02:03:28.199 --> 02:03:30.680
think of it as the same as drunk driving. It's

2173
02:03:30.800 --> 02:03:33.760
just what they're used to, fishing and drinking. They don't

2174
02:03:33.760 --> 02:03:36.479
think they're gonna get caught. The odds are certainly in

2175
02:03:36.520 --> 02:03:39.520
their favor, given that DNR only has about a dozen

2176
02:03:39.560 --> 02:03:43.479
wardens total to patrol all fifty nine square miles of

2177
02:03:43.560 --> 02:03:44.159
Lake Laniar.

2178
02:03:44.560 --> 02:03:45.159
Oh wow.

2179
02:03:46.520 --> 02:03:49.560
Imagine they could drone patrol it to like see if

2180
02:03:49.600 --> 02:03:52.920
people are like weaving and stuff. I don't know. Ultimately,

2181
02:03:53.319 --> 02:03:58.159
it's the lake's urban legend that actually helps raise awareness

2182
02:03:58.199 --> 02:03:59.760
of the area's inherent risks.

2183
02:04:00.199 --> 02:04:00.520
Hmmm.

2184
02:04:01.640 --> 02:04:04.000
Quote. I think social media has done a lot more

2185
02:04:04.039 --> 02:04:07.479
for safety than boating education, says boh It says Goss.

2186
02:04:08.359 --> 02:04:11.760
People respect the water now, whereas beforehand they were uninformed.

2187
02:04:11.920 --> 02:04:14.520
I think the accident rates are trending in the right direction.

2188
02:04:15.399 --> 02:04:18.680
In fact, there was a decline in total drowndings and

2189
02:04:18.800 --> 02:04:23.000
bui's voting under the Influence on Lanier in twenty twenty

2190
02:04:23.039 --> 02:04:26.359
four compared with the previous year. Oh that is good.

2191
02:04:26.720 --> 02:04:27.279
Yeah.

2192
02:04:27.439 --> 02:04:30.199
Also, young people aren't drinking like they used to. Yeah,

2193
02:04:30.279 --> 02:04:33.399
that that helps to drink. Alcohol consumption is just trending downward,

2194
02:04:35.000 --> 02:04:36.880
which is funny because I told somebody that once. They

2195
02:04:36.880 --> 02:04:38.680
were like, no way, man, people still love to get drunk.

2196
02:04:38.680 --> 02:04:42.680
And I was like, okay, then why do you think

2197
02:04:42.960 --> 02:04:45.880
like whiskey and stuff is all like getting small batch,

2198
02:04:46.039 --> 02:04:48.000
more and more small batch and more and more fancy

2199
02:04:48.039 --> 02:04:51.479
and more and more expensive. And he was like, uh

2200
02:04:51.960 --> 02:04:54.159
because people was like yeah, it's because people aren't drinking

2201
02:04:54.159 --> 02:04:56.399
as much of it. Yeah, so the people are into

2202
02:04:56.439 --> 02:04:57.880
it have to pay as money, They have to get

2203
02:04:57.880 --> 02:05:00.199
as much money out as it can. And and the

2204
02:05:00.239 --> 02:05:04.319
reason I know that is because I collect physical media

2205
02:05:04.640 --> 02:05:08.560
movies and stuff, and that's what happens to us. They're like, well,

2206
02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:11.319
they make them more special, but they're more expensive because

2207
02:05:11.319 --> 02:05:14.159
there are less of us buying them, right, And that's

2208
02:05:14.159 --> 02:05:16.640
what I was like, Yeah, they're trending down whiskey Like

2209
02:05:16.720 --> 02:05:19.079
it's they're trying to make it fancy and special. They're

2210
02:05:19.119 --> 02:05:21.680
selling a story to get you to pay the price

2211
02:05:21.760 --> 02:05:24.359
is necessary to you know, keep the whiskey thing going.

2212
02:05:25.439 --> 02:05:25.640
Yeah.

2213
02:05:25.760 --> 02:05:27.840
Yes, so I mean to some extent, I mean, people

2214
02:05:27.880 --> 02:05:30.239
still enjoy, you know, getting drunk a little bit or whatever.

2215
02:05:30.279 --> 02:05:32.520
I assume, I don't know, we're the worst people to

2216
02:05:32.560 --> 02:05:33.079
talk about this.

2217
02:05:33.319 --> 02:05:35.039
Yeah, but I don't know what's going on.

2218
02:05:35.000 --> 02:05:38.279
But it's definitely not as like super expected, Like people

2219
02:05:38.319 --> 02:05:40.760
aren't turning twenty one and going eight as much anymore

2220
02:05:40.800 --> 02:05:44.800
and stuff. It's really it's interesting, Yeah, it is not

2221
02:05:44.920 --> 02:05:48.359
everything can be accounted for, and sillery bits of lake loar,

2222
02:05:48.760 --> 02:05:53.000
the disembodied cries, the phantom dwelling on phantoms, dwelling on

2223
02:05:53.079 --> 02:05:57.760
sunken houseboats, and underwater church bell that still tolls amplify

2224
02:05:57.840 --> 02:06:01.600
the curse talk about but are not easily explained. Quote.

2225
02:06:02.039 --> 02:06:04.359
A guy asked me one time if I believe in ghosts.

2226
02:06:04.399 --> 02:06:07.920
Buchanan says, I said no, but I sure do believe

2227
02:06:07.960 --> 02:06:10.199
in karma. And the reason why I say that is

2228
02:06:10.239 --> 02:06:12.560
the land that Lanier is on has been stolen and

2229
02:06:12.600 --> 02:06:16.960
sold three times from the Native Americans, from the black sharecroppers,

2230
02:06:17.119 --> 02:06:19.399
and the white residents who eventually got run off by

2231
02:06:19.399 --> 02:06:24.760
the government. That's a really good point, although you know,

2232
02:06:25.319 --> 02:06:28.800
like everybody in Europe is like, haha, that's cute. Three

2233
02:06:28.880 --> 02:06:32.960
times people run off, like yeah, let's talk, let's talk,

2234
02:06:33.399 --> 02:06:38.319
you know, A thousand years BC. Quote. I'm not going

2235
02:06:38.359 --> 02:06:40.520
to say that I believe in ghosts. I am going

2236
02:06:40.560 --> 02:06:43.359
to say I believe in bad juju, and there's enough

2237
02:06:43.359 --> 02:06:46.760
of it tier to go around. When I ask Goss

2238
02:06:46.760 --> 02:06:51.520
if there's any larger meaning to extract from Atlanta, literally

2239
02:06:51.640 --> 02:06:54.960
drinking in all of its dark water. Of this dark water,

2240
02:06:55.479 --> 02:06:59.079
if it explains the Jinx sports teams, the trippy music scene,

2241
02:06:59.079 --> 02:07:03.199
the abominable traffic, the horny political landscape, that's a great

2242
02:07:03.199 --> 02:07:07.159
way to put it. The horny political landscape, he said

2243
02:07:07.199 --> 02:07:09.920
he doesn't really think about that. What he does think

2244
02:07:09.960 --> 02:07:13.720
about is tourist's lack of awareness of what lurks beneath

2245
02:07:13.720 --> 02:07:19.079
the surface. Quote. I don't think there's anything inherently evil

2246
02:07:19.800 --> 02:07:24.319
about the lake. I think people make poor decisions based

2247
02:07:24.319 --> 02:07:30.560
on their preconceived notions of what a lake is. I

2248
02:07:30.560 --> 02:07:31.960
just thought it'd be cool to end it, like make

2249
02:07:32.000 --> 02:07:33.119
it sound like a ghost story.

2250
02:07:33.479 --> 02:07:34.520
Yeah.

2251
02:07:34.800 --> 02:07:38.520
As con and I tack farther north, we pass summer

2252
02:07:38.640 --> 02:07:41.760
Or Mound, a nine foot high archaeological site dating to

2253
02:07:41.800 --> 02:07:44.760
the Late Woodland period that has become exposed in the

2254
02:07:44.760 --> 02:07:50.439
prevailing drought conditions. Excavated before it was flooded by Lake Lanier,

2255
02:07:51.000 --> 02:07:53.600
it has been linked to indigenous funeral customs and is

2256
02:07:53.640 --> 02:07:56.119
believed to have served as a not so final resting

2257
02:07:56.159 --> 02:07:59.479
place for a number of Cherokee elders and chiefs. I

2258
02:07:59.520 --> 02:08:02.359
get a chick not from the nippy weather this time,

2259
02:08:02.880 --> 02:08:05.600
Con asks if we should press on to Jackson Bridge.

2260
02:08:06.119 --> 02:08:09.239
I considered the dark energy my own young son son,

2261
02:08:09.359 --> 02:08:12.439
expecting me to scoop him up from school after this cruise.

2262
02:08:13.000 --> 02:08:15.239
The Atlanta friends who flinched when I said I was

2263
02:08:15.319 --> 02:08:19.000
venturing out here and demanded in no uncertain terms that

2264
02:08:19.079 --> 02:08:22.479
I return in one piece. I tell con not to bother,

2265
02:08:22.960 --> 02:08:28.560
that we had covered enough ground, best not to tempt fate. Okay,

2266
02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:30.359
I think the bridge would have been really cool to

2267
02:08:30.399 --> 02:08:33.520
see though, but whatever, Yeah, it was a pretty cool,

2268
02:08:33.720 --> 02:08:35.359
pretty cool, interesting piece.

2269
02:08:36.000 --> 02:08:38.439
And it was a good reason to be like, no,

2270
02:08:38.560 --> 02:08:40.680
I want to go home. Yeah.

2271
02:08:40.760 --> 02:08:44.079
In reality, his feet were tired, his feet were sorry.

2272
02:08:44.119 --> 02:08:47.319
He's like the seat in the boat's not very comfortable.

2273
02:08:47.640 --> 02:08:52.199
I'm not drunk enough or exactly, but I mean, I've

2274
02:08:52.239 --> 02:08:54.520
always had an issue with the water. You know. I

2275
02:08:54.520 --> 02:08:57.520
didn't learn to swim until I was over thirty because

2276
02:08:57.520 --> 02:08:59.239
I drowned twice as a kid. I've told you that,

2277
02:08:59.399 --> 02:09:03.800
I'm sure, yeah twice. I tell you about twice though, Yeah, yeah, okay, good.

2278
02:09:04.680 --> 02:09:06.359
Some people they're a little shocked. When I'm like, I

2279
02:09:06.479 --> 02:09:10.159
drowned twice, They're like what, I'm like, yep, both times

2280
02:09:10.159 --> 02:09:14.239
were really scary. You think the second time you'd be like, oh,

2281
02:09:14.279 --> 02:09:16.520
I know what to expect, you know, water in my

2282
02:09:16.640 --> 02:09:19.680
lungs are gonna die probably? Yeah, No, it was. It

2283
02:09:19.720 --> 02:09:22.960
was scary, but it made me, you know, much more

2284
02:09:23.000 --> 02:09:24.920
afraid of the water because I remember when I first

2285
02:09:25.239 --> 02:09:27.319
learned how to swim, I then made the decision like

2286
02:09:27.359 --> 02:09:29.920
I can go on the water because I won't just

2287
02:09:30.039 --> 02:09:35.880
die m And then I went kayaking, and I love kayaking. Yeah,

2288
02:09:36.199 --> 02:09:38.239
it's like walk. It's like going for a walk, but

2289
02:09:38.319 --> 02:09:41.000
in the water. You know, you're just like you're just

2290
02:09:41.119 --> 02:09:43.920
you're just going around the lake or the river or whatever.

2291
02:09:43.960 --> 02:09:46.479
You're just like it's like literally Like that's why I

2292
02:09:46.479 --> 02:09:47.760
got obsessed with it, because I'd be like, oh, I'm

2293
02:09:47.760 --> 02:09:49.439
gonna go see what that side's like. And I was like, yeah,

2294
02:09:49.439 --> 02:09:51.039
this is just like going on a walk, except I'm

2295
02:09:51.039 --> 02:09:53.560
on the water. So I love kayaking. I would I

2296
02:09:53.560 --> 02:09:55.199
should get a kayak one of these days.

2297
02:09:55.399 --> 02:09:56.000
Yeah.

2298
02:09:56.239 --> 02:09:58.079
I have to find somewhere to put it though, and

2299
02:09:58.119 --> 02:09:59.079
how to transport it.

2300
02:09:59.520 --> 02:10:02.319
This to just walk in places I don't.

2301
02:10:02.159 --> 02:10:05.800
Know, just wait until there's a flood and then yeah,

2302
02:10:05.920 --> 02:10:08.680
and just use it. Yeah. Well, we had that crazy

2303
02:10:08.720 --> 02:10:10.640
big snow earlier in the year. I was like, man,

2304
02:10:10.720 --> 02:10:13.279
I've been wanting to get a ski, a scheme or

2305
02:10:13.319 --> 02:10:16.000
a snow machine for you know whatever for so long

2306
02:10:16.000 --> 02:10:18.079
as it. Man, I would have been the king during

2307
02:10:18.119 --> 02:10:21.600
that level three snow emergencies. Superne You all thought I

2308
02:10:21.640 --> 02:10:26.039
was dumb for having this, Yeah, because because you know, OHI,

2309
02:10:26.159 --> 02:10:28.000
in my part of Ohio, it's like maybe three days

2310
02:10:28.000 --> 02:10:29.960
a year you could actually ride around on a skid.

2311
02:10:30.399 --> 02:10:32.000
The rest of the year, you know, there's not enough snow.

2312
02:10:32.239 --> 02:10:36.800
So yeah, but anyway, that's Lake Linear. I love horror

2313
02:10:37.000 --> 02:10:40.560
like scary stories about bodies of water, so that was

2314
02:10:40.600 --> 02:10:44.520
a pretty cool one. Yeah. The history part is really interesting,

2315
02:10:44.800 --> 02:10:48.359
the fact that it was such a turmoiled place and

2316
02:10:48.399 --> 02:10:50.479
then it becomes, you know, a place where people hang

2317
02:10:50.520 --> 02:10:56.039
out and have fun and get too drunk and die. Yes. Yeah, boy, howdy, Well,

2318
02:10:56.880 --> 02:10:58.439
we're going to take a quick break and we'll be

2319
02:10:58.479 --> 02:11:01.760
back wrapping up this month's episode talking about horror media

2320
02:11:01.840 --> 02:11:06.960
and theaters something else I'm sure, and also Michelle will

2321
02:11:06.960 --> 02:11:11.720
hopefully have some truly terrifying and perfect scary stories from

2322
02:11:11.800 --> 02:11:17.199
Reddit right after this. They need to be perfect. I heard, okay, good,

2323
02:11:17.600 --> 02:11:28.359
I tried to speak loudly, and we are back wrapping

2324
02:11:28.479 --> 02:11:33.880
up this April twenty twenty six edition of Monthly Spooky,

2325
02:11:34.000 --> 02:11:37.000
and there were This year has been a lot of

2326
02:11:37.039 --> 02:11:39.520
horror movies in the theater because when I sit down

2327
02:11:39.560 --> 02:11:41.760
for the show, I will go through my ticket stubs

2328
02:11:42.479 --> 02:11:44.279
because I can't always remember, like what all did you

2329
02:11:44.359 --> 02:11:49.000
see in this you know window of time? But a

2330
02:11:49.079 --> 02:11:51.039
lot of horror movies the last few months, because this

2331
02:11:51.119 --> 02:11:55.279
month alone I saw three horror films, brand new ones,

2332
02:11:55.760 --> 02:11:57.840
which I think that's a good good amount for a

2333
02:11:57.880 --> 02:12:01.960
you know, thirty day span. It's almost a week. Yeah.

2334
02:12:03.199 --> 02:12:06.479
First up, I saw the action horror film They Will

2335
02:12:06.600 --> 02:12:11.920
Kill You. I liked it, but honestly, it was kind

2336
02:12:11.920 --> 02:12:12.560
of forgettable.

2337
02:12:13.159 --> 02:12:16.079
I figured it would be. I saw tons and tons

2338
02:12:16.119 --> 02:12:18.720
of trailers for it. Oh yeah, tons of them, and

2339
02:12:18.760 --> 02:12:20.079
I was like, be good.

2340
02:12:20.840 --> 02:12:23.760
Well it came out right after Ready or Not. Here

2341
02:12:23.800 --> 02:12:26.279
I come the sequel to Ready or Not and Ready

2342
02:12:26.399 --> 02:12:28.079
or Not is like a being hunted by a bunch

2343
02:12:28.159 --> 02:12:32.520
of people horror movie, which I didn't think helped. Yeah,

2344
02:12:32.560 --> 02:12:34.880
and because because I remember when I saw the trailer,

2345
02:12:34.920 --> 02:12:36.800
I was like, We've been seeing a lot of this

2346
02:12:36.920 --> 02:12:39.720
kind of thing lately, like you know, one person versus

2347
02:12:39.800 --> 02:12:43.840
everybody horror thing. It was fun, It had a pretty

2348
02:12:43.840 --> 02:12:51.319
solid story. The director really must have watched Kill Bill

2349
02:12:51.359 --> 02:12:55.079
like a hundred times because the movie was stylistically very

2350
02:12:55.239 --> 02:12:57.880
kill Bill, okay in a fun way. I mean it

2351
02:12:57.920 --> 02:13:00.239
looked great and it had some cool twists and turn.

2352
02:13:00.600 --> 02:13:03.920
I really enjoyed it. I really did so. But it

2353
02:13:04.000 --> 02:13:08.479
wasn't like memorable, deeply memorable for me. But I did

2354
02:13:08.600 --> 02:13:10.720
like it. Same thing with like the Ready or Not

2355
02:13:10.800 --> 02:13:12.560
Here I come. I think we talked about that last month.

2356
02:13:12.800 --> 02:13:14.800
But I liked it. But you know, it wasn't the

2357
02:13:14.840 --> 02:13:17.920
first movie. But the first movie was perfect. So but

2358
02:13:18.039 --> 02:13:19.760
I dug, I dug, they will kill you if you

2359
02:13:19.880 --> 02:13:22.239
like action and horror. And it's still in theaters because

2360
02:13:22.239 --> 02:13:24.960
it didn't do very well. I would go catch it.

2361
02:13:25.439 --> 02:13:31.640
But then I saw the remake of Faces of Death.

2362
02:13:32.520 --> 02:13:35.760
M hmm. Do you even know about Faces of Death?

2363
02:13:35.840 --> 02:13:37.880
Cell or is that outside of your pay grade?

2364
02:13:37.960 --> 02:13:40.520
I know, I know I've heard of it before.

2365
02:13:41.439 --> 02:13:44.319
We should watch it sometime. Okay, The original I mean

2366
02:13:44.359 --> 02:13:48.119
not the not the sequel or the remake. It's mostly fake,

2367
02:13:48.239 --> 02:13:49.800
Like almost all of it is fake. It was just

2368
02:13:49.800 --> 02:13:52.239
sold as real. Yeah, it was the idea that it

2369
02:13:52.279 --> 02:13:56.680
was like real death on film. So the remake they

2370
02:13:56.800 --> 02:14:02.680
went with, this guy is killing people and recreating the

2371
02:14:02.800 --> 02:14:05.399
fake death scenes from Faces of Death but making them

2372
02:14:05.439 --> 02:14:09.239
real and then posting it on social media. Okay, And

2373
02:14:09.319 --> 02:14:11.760
the woman who figures it out is somebody who works

2374
02:14:11.880 --> 02:14:15.920
at that social media company and content moderation, because they're

2375
02:14:15.960 --> 02:14:17.560
telling her like, there's no way this is real because

2376
02:14:17.600 --> 02:14:20.600
it looks like it's cinematic, And it turns out the

2377
02:14:20.600 --> 02:14:23.359
guy is like filming them super cinematic to make it

2378
02:14:23.359 --> 02:14:25.920
seem like they're fake, which I did think was really funny.

2379
02:14:25.920 --> 02:14:27.479
I was like, that would be how to do it actually,

2380
02:14:27.920 --> 02:14:31.039
would be like have really good lighting and multiple cameras

2381
02:14:31.359 --> 02:14:33.600
when you're actually killing somebody, people be like that can't

2382
02:14:33.600 --> 02:14:35.359
be real. Look at it. It looks like a movie.

2383
02:14:36.079 --> 02:14:39.039
So but it was fun. The leading actress I thought

2384
02:14:39.119 --> 02:14:42.439
was not the best choice to be the lead when

2385
02:14:42.479 --> 02:14:45.800
things got really really serious, when she got like super emotional.

2386
02:14:45.840 --> 02:14:48.520
At one point, she like screamed for her life, and

2387
02:14:48.680 --> 02:14:50.960
I tried not to laugh because she just made like

2388
02:14:51.039 --> 02:14:52.760
an odd face. It was just you know what I mean.

2389
02:14:52.800 --> 02:14:55.600
And she wasn't a bad actress by any stretch. There

2390
02:14:55.600 --> 02:14:57.960
were just moments where I was like, yeah, but it

2391
02:14:57.720 --> 02:14:59.800
was it was really fun. It kept me on the

2392
02:14:59.880 --> 02:15:04.159
end edge. The ending was pretty good. So yeah, Faces

2393
02:15:04.159 --> 02:15:07.119
of Death that was a pretty cool one. And then finally,

2394
02:15:07.319 --> 02:15:10.119
and most insane of all of them, I saw Lee

2395
02:15:10.239 --> 02:15:15.680
Cronin's The Mummy. Oh yeah, how was that insane?

2396
02:15:16.319 --> 02:15:16.960
Yeah?

2397
02:15:17.039 --> 02:15:21.520
It was demented and gross and disturbing. It was extremely

2398
02:15:21.640 --> 02:15:24.920
evil Dead like, which makes sense because Lee Cronan's previous

2399
02:15:24.960 --> 02:15:29.000
movie was Evil Dead Rise, which was actually funny. Somebody

2400
02:15:29.119 --> 02:15:31.920
commented when I said I saw it and said, like,

2401
02:15:32.159 --> 02:15:34.520
this guy clearly just wanted to make an Evil Dead movie.

2402
02:15:34.840 --> 02:15:37.680
And I commented it again, you mean, but you wanted

2403
02:15:37.720 --> 02:15:41.560
to make another Evil Dead movie. Yeah, but it's not

2404
02:15:41.680 --> 02:15:45.000
a typical Mummy story. They really kind of turned mummy

2405
02:15:45.359 --> 02:15:49.319
mummies into more of like almost an infectious curse instead

2406
02:15:49.319 --> 02:15:53.680
of just like a shambling old skeleton. So it's not

2407
02:15:54.079 --> 02:15:56.039
to me. It wasn't much of a mummy movie. Was

2408
02:15:56.079 --> 02:15:58.880
much more like kind of just a like ancient Middle

2409
02:15:58.880 --> 02:16:04.279
Eastern Demon story, which is cool, like like I love

2410
02:16:04.359 --> 02:16:07.279
the imagery from that, like I love scaabs, I love

2411
02:16:07.399 --> 02:16:10.880
like the hieroglyphics. You know that stuff is cool. So

2412
02:16:11.039 --> 02:16:13.239
I had a good time with it. It was creepy.

2413
02:16:13.319 --> 02:16:15.720
It played up a lot of the fears we have

2414
02:16:15.800 --> 02:16:18.680
of like letting down people we love, which is always

2415
02:16:18.760 --> 02:16:21.520
fun in horror to make us think about that kind

2416
02:16:21.520 --> 02:16:26.479
of stuff. Thanks Lee Cronan, who apparently was working through

2417
02:16:26.479 --> 02:16:30.199
the death of his own mother when he made the film,

2418
02:16:31.399 --> 02:16:34.360
and the ending was kind of like it. It seemed

2419
02:16:34.399 --> 02:16:37.959
kind of out of nowhere. But also, to be honest,

2420
02:16:38.000 --> 02:16:39.639
when when the ending felt like it came out of horror,

2421
02:16:39.639 --> 02:16:41.040
I was like, well, I was just thinking, how the

2422
02:16:41.079 --> 02:16:43.360
hell can they even end this? They made everything go

2423
02:16:43.479 --> 02:16:47.479
so insane. So I liked it. Lee Cronan is the

2424
02:16:47.520 --> 02:16:49.239
Mummy and people seem to really be digging it. It

2425
02:16:49.239 --> 02:16:51.079
looks like it's doing pretty well at the box office.

2426
02:16:51.879 --> 02:16:56.200
So yeah, I say, Lee Cronan's The Mummy was really fun. Yay.

2427
02:16:57.399 --> 02:16:58.959
So what do you got for Michelle?

2428
02:17:00.559 --> 02:17:04.719
So? I have something I guess from from the Glitchen

2429
02:17:04.760 --> 02:17:09.319
the Matrix reddit, So I read it that you know,

2430
02:17:09.639 --> 02:17:11.440
I'll have to see how you feel about this. But

2431
02:17:11.520 --> 02:17:15.719
so anyway, there's this this let's say they're a guy.

2432
02:17:15.760 --> 02:17:21.000
I don't know what they are. This guy who normally

2433
02:17:21.040 --> 02:17:23.719
for work gets up at six o'clock. So on the weekends,

2434
02:17:23.719 --> 02:17:26.920
he also just wakes up at six, you know, by habit. Yeah,

2435
02:17:27.000 --> 02:17:29.760
and normally he goes back to sleep, But for whatever reason,

2436
02:17:29.760 --> 02:17:32.079
on this Saturday, he was like, no, I'm gonna actually

2437
02:17:32.159 --> 02:17:34.719
get up at six and like just get stuff done.

2438
02:17:34.879 --> 02:17:36.360
He gets up and he's like, I want to get

2439
02:17:36.360 --> 02:17:39.799
breakfast from somewhere, So where's open? And he sees that

2440
02:17:39.879 --> 02:17:43.680
wendy is open. Wendy's is open, so he orders through

2441
02:17:43.719 --> 02:17:46.040
the app and he goes to the Wendy's and he

2442
02:17:46.079 --> 02:17:48.680
picks up the food and he comes back home and

2443
02:17:48.719 --> 02:17:55.680
he eats the food and it's very good. The next yes, yay,

2444
02:17:56.639 --> 02:18:00.879
that was the whole thing. The next day, he's like

2445
02:18:00.959 --> 02:18:03.879
out driving around and he passes by the Wendy's and

2446
02:18:03.920 --> 02:18:07.959
sees that it is closed permanently and boarded up, and

2447
02:18:08.000 --> 02:18:12.959
he's like, I was just there yesterday morning. What And

2448
02:18:13.280 --> 02:18:15.639
he finds out that it has been closed for months,

2449
02:18:17.319 --> 02:18:22.319
so he didn't get food from there. And also, I

2450
02:18:22.360 --> 02:18:27.079
don't like that face that you're making. Go on, please,

2451
02:18:27.840 --> 02:18:30.040
So he's just like, what the fuck? I went to

2452
02:18:30.079 --> 02:18:32.920
the Wendy's. And he has a receipt from the Wendy's,

2453
02:18:33.319 --> 02:18:36.159
and he sees he can look at his like location,

2454
02:18:36.319 --> 02:18:38.360
you know, like on Google where it says like you,

2455
02:18:38.920 --> 02:18:42.000
here's where you were on the little thing you can

2456
02:18:42.040 --> 02:18:45.479
see where you went on Google Maps and stuff. He

2457
02:18:45.600 --> 02:18:47.360
was at that wendy So he didn't go to a

2458
02:18:47.360 --> 02:18:50.040
different Wendy's. He went to that Wendy's. But it's not

2459
02:18:50.159 --> 02:18:52.639
open and it hasn't been open, and he doesn't know

2460
02:18:52.680 --> 02:18:53.360
what's going on.

2461
02:18:54.559 --> 02:18:56.559
The reason I was making that face is number one,

2462
02:18:56.760 --> 02:19:01.000
fast food restaurants are meant to be interchangeable, like physically

2463
02:19:01.079 --> 02:19:04.840
for the most part. Yeah, if you were to show

2464
02:19:04.959 --> 02:19:08.479
a receipt with that address on it, I guess I

2465
02:19:08.479 --> 02:19:12.520
would I would wonder more. But but the other reason

2466
02:19:12.559 --> 02:19:14.399
I was making that face is Wendy's is having a

2467
02:19:14.440 --> 02:19:19.360
really hard time economically, Like there their companies struggling, Like

2468
02:19:19.440 --> 02:19:22.639
my Wendy's that I've been going to the closest one

2469
02:19:22.639 --> 02:19:25.680
to my house. It's been there for fifteen sixteen years.

2470
02:19:25.680 --> 02:19:29.559
It just closed. Yeah, like Wendy's has really been struggling,

2471
02:19:29.639 --> 02:19:32.639
especially after COVID when like the pay went way up

2472
02:19:33.120 --> 02:19:36.079
McDonald's and them all raised their wages a lot, Wendy's

2473
02:19:36.079 --> 02:19:40.600
couldn't keep up. So I feel for Wendy's because I

2474
02:19:40.600 --> 02:19:44.959
do think their food is superior in general, Like when

2475
02:19:45.000 --> 02:19:47.440
they raise their prices, I was like, Eh, the burger

2476
02:19:47.520 --> 02:19:49.360
is the better of all the burgers you can get

2477
02:19:49.360 --> 02:19:53.920
through drive through. But then it's become really inconsistent because

2478
02:19:53.959 --> 02:19:56.280
a lot of the locations are suffering. They're not being

2479
02:19:56.280 --> 02:19:58.440
able to hire good people and ba da da dah.

2480
02:19:59.399 --> 02:20:01.000
So that's why I was in that face. Mostly was

2481
02:20:01.040 --> 02:20:05.280
just like, yeah, they're closed Wendy's all over the place. Yeah, yeah,

2482
02:20:06.280 --> 02:20:11.559
And I could totally see my for myself, like confusing

2483
02:20:11.600 --> 02:20:13.079
myself and be like, no, I just went there, when

2484
02:20:13.120 --> 02:20:14.440
in reality I went to the other one.

2485
02:20:15.040 --> 02:20:17.559
Yeah. I mean, and I would believe that too. But

2486
02:20:17.639 --> 02:20:21.840
he does have a receipt from that address Wendy's, Yeah,

2487
02:20:21.840 --> 02:20:24.079
and he it does show that that's the Wendy's that

2488
02:20:24.120 --> 02:20:28.799
he went to that he traveled to, So I don't

2489
02:20:28.799 --> 02:20:30.639
really know what to make of that. Also, I will

2490
02:20:30.680 --> 02:20:34.280
say in my area, I know where one Wendy's is like,

2491
02:20:36.399 --> 02:20:40.120
I don't. I don't have another Wendy's. I could confuse

2492
02:20:40.120 --> 02:20:41.120
with that Wendy's.

2493
02:20:41.360 --> 02:20:44.040
See, I have like, even though the Wendy's closest to

2494
02:20:44.079 --> 02:20:47.360
me is gone, there's another one just like another half

2495
02:20:47.399 --> 02:20:48.559
a mile or mile away.

2496
02:20:49.040 --> 02:20:51.000
Yeah, I just have the one, so.

2497
02:20:53.319 --> 02:20:55.639
Or so you think. Actually I know exactly where your

2498
02:20:55.639 --> 02:20:58.040
Wendy's is because it's all the way when I drive,

2499
02:20:58.079 --> 02:21:01.440
when I leave or come or arrive to your area,

2500
02:21:01.559 --> 02:21:11.040
I see the Wendy's. Wendy's. Yeah it worked. They check Wendy's. Yeah,

2501
02:21:11.239 --> 02:21:13.159
I could. That one would throw me because I like,

2502
02:21:13.239 --> 02:21:15.479
honestly I couldn't. I could see it happening to me.

2503
02:21:15.600 --> 02:21:18.440
Not with the receipt and everything, but I could see

2504
02:21:18.520 --> 02:21:22.120
being like, wasn't I just there? Like like and then

2505
02:21:22.159 --> 02:21:24.680
coming home and seeing like a Wendy's cup and be like, dude,

2506
02:21:24.840 --> 02:21:29.879
I was, I was there yesterday. Right. The other The

2507
02:21:29.920 --> 02:21:33.959
other problem is, too, is being like, uh, I was

2508
02:21:34.000 --> 02:21:35.680
just there, wasn't I? And in reality it's like, no,

2509
02:21:35.760 --> 02:21:37.879
that was seven days ago, yesterday you were at the

2510
02:21:38.000 --> 02:21:38.559
different one.

2511
02:21:39.239 --> 02:21:39.760
Yeah.

2512
02:21:39.840 --> 02:21:42.280
That's the other thing, because like the because you know,

2513
02:21:42.600 --> 02:21:46.440
if they're doing their job right, then the experience is identical.

2514
02:21:46.600 --> 02:21:47.719
That's like the whole goal.

2515
02:21:48.239 --> 02:21:52.239
Yeah. Once again, it's it would have to be dependent

2516
02:21:52.280 --> 02:21:54.639
on the area because again, like I couldn't go to

2517
02:21:54.680 --> 02:21:57.799
a different Wendy's. I just go to the Wendy's.

2518
02:21:58.280 --> 02:22:00.479
So now I'm wondering if there's another Wendy there's.

2519
02:22:00.280 --> 02:22:02.760
Probably like fifty, but I just know about one.

2520
02:22:03.719 --> 02:22:05.920
You open your front door and the house across the

2521
02:22:05.959 --> 02:22:11.120
street is a Wendy's. Yeah, huh, that's queer.

2522
02:22:14.159 --> 02:22:16.200
And and I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying,

2523
02:22:16.239 --> 02:22:18.600
like if you have evidence to back it up, because

2524
02:22:19.000 --> 02:22:21.000
then you looked at it and like that's where he went.

2525
02:22:21.399 --> 02:22:23.319
I don't know what that means except that it maybe

2526
02:22:23.360 --> 02:22:24.719
it's not a true story at all.

2527
02:22:25.760 --> 02:22:29.440
I mean I think at you know, at best, he's

2528
02:22:29.479 --> 02:22:32.399
either you know, easily like got confused from the whole

2529
02:22:32.440 --> 02:22:36.440
thing and it's really creepy, or at worst, he's a

2530
02:22:36.479 --> 02:22:39.760
liar or at even better alternate universe.

2531
02:22:40.239 --> 02:22:42.200
Yeah yeah, yeah, where.

2532
02:22:42.040 --> 02:22:45.040
That Wendy's is open. And sometimes notice, do you know

2533
02:22:45.120 --> 02:22:47.680
anything else weird? Like all the people were apes or anything.

2534
02:22:48.040 --> 02:22:51.639
He didn't say that, but he might have.

2535
02:22:52.280 --> 02:22:55.000
Okay, Well, that's good. To know at least. Yeah, all right,

2536
02:22:55.239 --> 02:22:57.159
well I think that was a pretty good one. Shell.

2537
02:22:57.559 --> 02:22:59.639
Thanks you did good. You did good today.

2538
02:23:00.000 --> 02:23:00.319
Thank you.

2539
02:23:02.120 --> 02:23:04.399
Also, I'm just really hungry and now I want Wendy,

2540
02:23:06.680 --> 02:23:10.520
so well, thank you Chel for that one, and thank

2541
02:23:10.559 --> 02:23:13.399
you to Wendy's for hopefully paying us for that. Yes,

2542
02:23:14.399 --> 02:23:16.559
but uh well, I guess we're gonna get out of here.

2543
02:23:16.600 --> 02:23:18.719
So I really do appreciate you guys all listening to

2544
02:23:18.840 --> 02:23:22.079
Monthly Spooky. Will of course be back next month on

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02:23:28.159 --> 02:23:30.959
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2548
02:23:31.040 --> 02:23:34.239
record is when I figure out the topic. So but remember,

2549
02:23:34.239 --> 02:23:35.360
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2556
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2557
02:23:55.920 --> 02:23:56.559
final word

2558
02:23:57.319 --> 02:23:59.920
Oh like and if you didn't have anything prepared,