Monthly Spooky | America’s Most Haunted Lake? Ghost Stories, Dark History & Bizarre Spooky News

0:00 A human skull found in the desert, Swingers get Haunted, mysterious explosions no one seems to be able to explain, and diving into the most haunted lake in America. Get comfortable, turn off the lights. It's monthly spooky. Welcome back, my spookies. It is indeed that time of the month. It's monthly spooky. I'm, of course your host Enrique Kuto here with my good buddy and co host Michelle. Michelle, how are you doing.

0:48 I don't know. Do you want me to say bad? Like last time? I'm if it's true, I guess, Oh, I don't know. Maybe. I mean, on the plus side, you're very cold. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's always good. That's a win, right, Yeah. Sure. This has been one of the weirdest springs. I swear out here in Ohio we keep having like false false springs. Yeah, where you know, it gets to be seventy degrees and then like four days later it's like, oh, never mind, it's blow freezing at night. And it's funny because I've heard a lot of people because Ohio, I think most places love to think that they have the market cornered on unpredictable weather. Which is hilarious because weather is deeply unpredictable. Yeah, Like I've always had that saying. You know what they say, predicting the weather is kind of like predicting the weather, because I can't think of an example of something hard to predict other than the weather.

1:53 Yeah. But so we hear a lot of people saying, you know, oh, that's Ohio for you, and I'm like, no, I've lived in Ohio the majority of my life. Two or three false springs is totally normal. But where where we got to be in the double digits at this point? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. We don't call it false springs. What do you call them? We don't have a term for the that just is warm and then it's not warm. Wow, you really don't use the term full spring? No, huh, because that's like the perfect term for it, full spring. Yeah yeah, but no, this is spring, just the weird, the weird thing.

2:33 It's just a cold spring. No, It's just it's doing its thing. It's weird thing where sometimes it's really hot and sometimes it's really cold, I mean more so than usual. But that's I don't have any I don't have any way to describe it. Except for that. Wow, you guys are really lively with your you know, trying to uh decode the mysteries of life. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's bad job you guys did. It's pretty bad job. I mean, I'm just I'm just telling you. But it's been really weird. Like it was super warm when I went to Columbus for the Oddities Expo, and then I get there and all of a sudden's like, actually at night, it's gonna be like forty three degrees yeah, and I'm like, oh cool, I don't even have a jacket, Like it's it's really that's that's a bit colder than I was prepared for. So it's it's been interesting. Now it's been fun because and this is okay. So this is why I truly noticed, like we don't have this many false springs.

3:38 You should just start using it over there to make it happen for you, guys. I don't want it. I'm just trying to help. You don't want any help if it comes from Ohio. Yes, exactly, the concept of Ohio, not because I'm in Ohio. Yeah, I know, I know, I don't know why. All we want to do is help you. All aways say that. But every time I take in Ohio's advice on something, something really tragic happens. Can you name one example, Remember. That time where I like everything exploded that one time. Like everything in the universe. Yeah you don't, Yeah, you don't remember that. It's okay because I fixed everything afterwards.

4:26 Okay, Fine, That one, I guess is a is a good example. Yeah, geez. But the thing that's really made me realize, like, wow, we just keep tipping the temperatures is usually maybe a couple of times a year I will have to, like in the same week, run my air and run my heat. But you know, I try to resist it. We all do, you know. We all try to be like I'm not turning on the air conditioning until lah, or I'm not turning on the heat until lah. We all kind of pull that. But like I just because of the last month and a half, I just it's normal. I just look at the weather report at night and decide which thing I need to set my system for before I go to bed. Wow, because I'll be like, oh, it's gonna get really really cold, huh, like really cold. I guess I should have the heat on in case the house gets that cold, you know.

5:21 But it's also been nice because I'm I can be pretty frugal. I'm not like you, like you'll just you'll literally just be like I will die and then you do this to save money. Yeah, but but I will be like, ooh, you know, the low is gonna be forty eight. I doubt the house will even get that, you know, probably the house will probably only get to about sixty degrees internally. So I'm gonna see if I can like not heat it so that the house will stay cool when the when it gets warm outside again, like I'm trying to like ride the temperatures. Yeah. Yeah, and that's one thing. Like today, like the heat won't come on because it's not that cold, but the air conditioning will not come on either. So I'm like, yeah, I'm saving. Money, yeah a little bit.

6:04 Yeah, I was. I was introducing Rachel to Extreme Cheapskates. She'd never seen an episode of Extreme cheap Skates. Have you ever watched that? No? Oh, you'd love it. You'd love it because it's not just people who like to save money, but they're mentally ill for it. Yeah, so it's pretty fun. But she had just never seen anything like this. I mean people, you know, flossing with their own hair to not spend money on dental floss and stuff. Huh. Really, there's a lot of weird stuff in there. And it was funny because I was talking to my mother about that, because she taught me how to be cheap and then she claims I'm cheaper than her, But she taught me how to be cheap. And there was one guy who like, he was like, weather stripping saves you know, a ton of money in the house. So I made my own and it's like plastic bags, like you know, grocery bags.

6:52 He's like stuffed into the corners. And my mom was just like, what the hell, Like weather stripping cast like nine dollars and it'll do a better job and look better. Like there's no downside, It's just not a lot of money, Like it really isn't. I think it depends on how how poor you are, because my skins are poor. That's not the way that works. Fine, that's no. That's the definition of a cheap skin is they have like a job and they make regular money and they just will not part with it. Okay, So no, no, I agree, Like there's a point. But when I was growing up, Like, my mother's attitude was always like if this really janky solution that's cheap, doesn't look horrible and won't fail all the time, then we'll do it, you know, Like she wouldn't duct tape something if we could, if there was some way to fix it properly, unless it was out of sight, then it was like that's fine, you know, like then we'll you know, oh, it's the back of the couch, just tape it and be done. Like but if it was the front door, she would be like, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna figure out how to get some wood putty and just fix it, because then it'll actually be fixed. I won't have to see how pathetic my existence is every time I look at it. Yeah, that kind of thing. So that's that's kind of like the line that they're not quite they're not quite walking as much. And the best part about that show is it's not like Hoarders or something where they have a therapist come in. These people love being cheap, like this is their hobby. The favorite thing. So oh man, my

8:24 favorite was the guy who went on a first date. So we went to a funeral parlor to get flowers from the trash. Wow. Yeah. And then and then you would love it because it was in New York City. So he's at like a bakery and he's taking free samples of little tiny muffins, but he just keeps taking more and more, and this old lady who doesn't work there, is like, stop it, stop it. You've had enough, you have enough, leave some wo and the best person guys like just like no, they're free, and he just keeps taking you anyway. This old lady's like stop it. And then this other guy is just kind of like why are you what is what do you need? All these buffet where he's like, I've got a date tonight. He's like, oh, I'm sure it's gonna go great. And I was like, God, that made that. That is the only time in my life I've ever missed being in New York. Yeah, like, oh, I would love to have been the fourth person. Yeah, but uh it. But it's funny because yeah, the sheer amount people will work to save things, save money, like filling your refrigerator with clothes in order to make the bill less hmm. But also to clean your jeans because you can freeze jeans to clean them.

9:35 But that one takes the dirt off of them. Well, no to like clean them as far as like if they're dirty from like were like the smelling pad and stuff, it like disinfects them because a lot of genes, you're not supposed to wash them. You're actually supposed to freeze them because it makes the makes the denim last longer or something. So, but like stuff like that. Collecting water, that's the one that always blows my mind, is like they'll collect like rain water and stud of the like is expensive and like I'm pretty sure I saved like two hundred dollars a year, and I'm like, dude, you probably my most use My water bill was like one hundred and sixty dollars in a quarter. And that's like doing everything without trying to save, Like you're not saving two hundred dollars a year by not drinking the water that comes to your house. I'm sorry.

10:20 So where's the water coming from? The rain or creak? One guy built a thing to filter the water. Wow. I watched one lady her husband built their own breast pump for their baby out of like stuff from the junkyard. I know, I know, dude, I like these people. You might like the you watch it on YouTube, you should, you should, you should give it. It's their twenty minute shows too, so they're perfect for all you're eating lunch and want to feel bad about the world, but superior in a way. I don't want to feel superior. I think it's cool. Well that's some of them are pretty cool. But then there are stuff like, you know, an they're helping is her daughter get married and then like taking her to a wedding venue covered in like rat feces, and her crying because her mom just doesn't care to spend money to make her happy.

11:13 I don't understand the context. There's a wedding and she shows her the venue and it's just horrible. It's like disgusting and oh oh and yeah, and she just cries because like her mom just doesn't care. Okay, yeah, So most of. Them are not like that extreme. You know, there are funny ones like one guy he collects little coffee creamers at the grocery store or at the diners and stuff. He collects those and then fills a water like old water bottle with him and just has his kids shake them to make butter so they never buy butter. That one was pretty clever because like one of the kids is like, I don't know, I'm just used to it. It's like what I do. I sit down and I just shake this while I'm talking everybody. She's like, and the butter tastes really good. I was like, Okay, that one's pretty good. That's a good way to save some money.

12:02 But there's one guy who he refills all these bottles of water because his kids want water, bottled water. I guess he refills them and then uses clear coat nail polish to make them sound like they're sealed, like they crack. Oh wow, And the best parties he's like, they don't notice, and I save money. And then all and then all the kids are like we there's we know that those are not actual bottles of water, Like we know, like we're not fooled in the least. And it's like kids that are like five and six, and then the kids who've already left to college, there's like, yeah, we know, we absolutely know it's not the same at all. And all I could think was, man, when I was a kid, we just do it. Was like I want bottled water. It was like no, like there's a tap right there, like drink that. Yeah, deal with it. So but that's been a fun distraction. I have no idea why I brought that up. Oh it was because of the powers of the saving electronics. Oh oh yeah, oh yeah. So as we're watching it, like and we're seeing like these disgusting things. There's one lady who eats cat food instead of tuna because she realized it was cheaper, and then she like makes tune a salad out of it and stuff.

13:02 Wow, it's not much cheaper. No, it's not much cheaper, at least not back then. But yeah, but uh, but every time something would discuss Rachel, I would just lean in and go, See, all I do is ask you to shut the light off in your workshop. You see that. All I ask you to do is do a full load of laundry at a time. I'm very reasonable. I've just see that. I just asked you to weather strip a door with me. I'm not that bad. So anyhow, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back with the spooky news. But I want to mention our as Tea's last month. Our topic for this month is Lake Ranier out in Georgia, considered possibly one of the most haunted lakes in America, maybe even the world. So we'll be talking about that, but we'll come back with the spooky news because we've got some doozies in the last month or so to share with you right after this welcome back. I'm very excited to talk about these stories, these news stories, because there's never a shortage of them. I'm starting to really realize that now that we do the show every month, there's plenty to have. So let's dive in to the spooky.

14:24 News, the spooky news. So this one is from our good friends at Mirror dot co dot uk and this headline alone, this was perfect. So and Shell, I think you'll really like this one because it involves two things you're definitely familiar with. The headline reads builders spooked at Swingers Club as paranormal activity reported during renovation work. That's so many things, right, Yeah.

15:05 An adult nightclub that formerly housed a bank has become the focus of an eerie investigation. The alternative venue, featuring a relaxed bar area and a bondage dungeon, is reported to have a horrible atmosphere. These are all those three words, like in one sentence. We're all in quotes that's so weird. Horrible atmosphere in certain sections, which emerged following recent refurbishment work. Paranormal investigators and ghost hunting specialists arrived at Vault seventy two in Plymouth, Devon after the proprietor reported quote things happening when a connecting wall to neighboring premises was breached.

15:54 Oh is that because those people now have to deal with all your weird stuff going on? Or is it because you like their ghosts snuck into your place? Because maybe yeah, yeah, A. Doorway links two separate structures, Vault seventy two, previously a bank and a long abandoned residential building where a family vanished from the records. Oh, I guess it probably just went somewhere else, Like. Yes, nobody wrote it down because they forgot yeah. Quote. Ever since we knocked through that wall, said nightclub owner Andreas Strossiatis, things started happening. I think I think we're onto something the ghosts from that place, which I love the idea. It's like, well, look, ghosts can't go through three quarter inch drywall. They just can't.

16:45 Well it's a firewall probably, so it's like also a ghost. Wall is that. Like. One of the things you've learned inspecting is like this is this is a ghost rated firewall. Uh huh like And because ghosts can normally they can even go to different houses if they want, but not through a ghost raighted firewall. You just have to hope the ghost doesn't figure out if you go out the front door and then a crossing through your front door. Sometimes sometimes they're smart like that, but not all of them. So unfortunately, ghosts can't leave the premises unless it's a loophole like you share a doorway. M hmmm, I don't know. Recent refurbishment of the property is believed to have triggered a disturbance. There's so many air quotes, quotes. Employees and construction workers have shared accounts of doors opening independently, alongside a sensation of dread on the upper floor. Perhaps the most disturbing.

17:44 Of all, what is happening? I don't know? Of all, a brick was thrown at a builder. Wow? Why is that a quote? While work was underway breaking through the mysterious sealed doorway as the nightclub owner your busy expansion. The worst are wanted single words in quotes, because that's when it because I get like, maybe thrown at a builder is because somebody claimed that, but like mysterious disturbance, What the hell is happening? I assume I guess the person who wrote this does not believe any of it, so they're just like, eh or something.

18:27 Yeah, I don't know. Quote, Ever since we knocked through that wall, said nightclub owner Andreas Dressiatis, things started happening. Wait did I already read that? Sorry, I already read that part. At least they said his name, Okay, quote we plan to join the two buildings to create a new, bigger venue. But something like that, something doesn't like what we're doing. Andrea said, So they're going to combine the buildings, which, first of all, mozeltov to them for having such a successful swing club that they can expand into an abandoned apartment building. Yeah, and what a great way for people to find out about your kink club. Like you're sitting there reading it in front of your wife and be like, oh, yeah, there's a ghost or something. Isn't that spooky? And then just like highlight the address. But but so apparently they're claiming now it's more like that the ghosts became aware it's going to be a single building now, so like, oh, we're allowed over there. If they're under the same ownership, then like that's yeah, that's different. The austices have changed.

19:32 Well, I mean, it's also possible that the ghosts weren't aware of the other building. I don't know. Possible, I don't know. On Tuesday, March thirty first, a team of paranormal investigators from Shadow Tour Paranormal, who've explored numerous sites through Devon and Cornwall, visited the well known venue to discover what other worldly activity they might encounter, and things turned decidedly weird. Yeah. Vault seventy two is Plymouth's premiere alternative LGBTQ plus friendly bar with a passion for kink. According to their website, the establishment serves as a quote social hub for like minded people who are open to exploring alternative lifestyles. Once a bank many years ago, the walls remain sheet metal dotted with rivets, while the original bank vault door, manufactured by Chubb London, still stands as a testament to the building's most formal past. Chubb London. That's a good name for a company.

20:39 But also like, this is a lot of information that feels like why are we. What because they're always advertising to us. Basically, I guess, yeah, quote, this is one of the most unusual places we've had to ghost hunt, said Matt bear Clark from Shadow Tor Paranormal. There's a sex dungeon. They bleaked out sex. That's not that's not an offensive term. It's it's because of like places like TikTok and stuff, where like you can't say certain words or you get like hidden I guess. Or you can't say them in the first five or six seconds minimum. Like sometimes it's entirely now because when I do my TikTok posts and stuff, I sometimes get so fucking frustrated by the amount of baby talk you have to use to talk about anything grown up. Yeah, that's why I try not to do true crime on there anymore, because it's just impossible. I try to only do like folklore because I did one once and at the end when I plugged Weekly Spooky, I was like, make sure to check out the full episode of Weekly Spooky where I can talk to you like adults, because I got so ticked off.

21:50 Yeah, it's it's weird because because of that, and I think it's also like a Twitter x thing as well. I'm not sure, maybe I'm wrong, it's not, it's it's a bunch of them. But anyway, it's gotten weird. So in articles like this, you have people, you know, not putting the entire word sex, but it happens on like Reddit too, and then people get really angry because it's like, why are you censoring sex? Or killed yourselves. Yeah, unlived self delete? Yeah, or pedophile but you just put pdf. File yep, yep, yeah. Quote there's a sex dungeon for a start. Matt, commonly referred to as Bear, has operated shadow Tor Paranormal for several years, hosting regular investigations at sites in Cornwall and Devon. Quote. We've got paranormal tech devices, new and old cameras set up. Bear outlined while at the premises on thirty first of March. Quote there's even a plan to do a group seance later on, which could be interesting. Bear was accompanied by author Jonathan Bokes and four Bear Paranormal. Weird. He's called Bear, but then there's another place called four Bears Paranormal. Yeah he's no, he's not, apparently not, but they're cool with each other.

23:11 Who've also examined many of Devon and Cornwall venues for supernatural phenomena. As the investigators moved through the club and down the connecting passageway, they described a quote distinct change of atmosphere and appearance. Oh, almost like it's a different building. Huh. That was always a different building because it was just a housing project first. Yeah, of some sort. They observed the old forgotten it's in quotes forgotten house adjoining seventy two has been quote reduced to its bare bones as the place undergoes a transformation. Yeah, that's that's how renovations work. That's how you do it. Becky Chapman of Four Bears Paranormal said, quote it's a great place, a really impressive old building, loads of characters, such as the old fireplaces and the original stairs.

23:59 I guess we're trying to sell it now as well. I guess, but they already bought it. Maybe now they're not so sure, so they're gonna sell it. The striking staircase indeed spirals up four stories from the distinctly unsettling sellar to the uppermost attic chambers formerly occupied by domestic staff. Yeah, well it has to be a big house to share a wall or whatever with a bank. It would have to be big, it could be. Why would it have to be big. So it could fit in that space? Like it would look out of place if it was a tiny little house next to big business buildings. That sometimes it happens, I don't think.

24:39 So, I'm gonna call cap on that. I don't believe you. Elaborate cast iron fireplaces remain as echoes of grander days and the occupants who inhabited the historic property in bygone times. Andreas revealed a disconcerting detail about the abandoned dwelling quote, it's had a strange history. There was a family here after it was built, and they vanished from the records. Then it was owned by the council until it was rented by the bank. Oh, it's got to be a big house of Wait, was it ever a part of the bank. That's confusing. It was part of or the bank bought it because it was adjoining and was using it for something. I don't know. Clearly, they still they didn't have like the walls were shared, but they didn't have like a pathway. Apparently evidence of previous previous inhabitants became apparent as the team investigated further, uncovering fragments of vintage wallpaper and concealed painted lettering lurking within voids and plasterwork.

25:41 Oh well, guess quote, the basement is horrible, said Jonathan Bokes. I spent a good half an hour down there, feeling quite quite comfortable until my light pole went off. Light pole, Okay, I thought they called them torches. They do. I don't know what a light pole. Oh, it's just a stick light. It's like the long tube light that you hold. Oh I would just call that a flashlight. Yeah, me too. Quote. It had decent power when I went down to the basement, but it just switched off. That's not a comfortable feeling, being lost in the pitch black.

26:21 That's why you should bring another light pole just in case. Yeah, always be a two light pole person. Yeah. Further technical difficulties and battery depletion persisted throughout the evening, leaving the team questioning whether something or someone was quote interfering with their equipment. At one stage, the team detected heavy footsteps on the old stairs, initially assuming Andreas was approaching to check on their well being, yet nobody was present. Harsh statement about Andrea. He did not give a crap if they were alive or dead. Sorry about you, Becky. Quote it was at least six steps coming in from the stairs down below. I thought it was a person until I looked Forbear's paranormal deployed an array of ghost hunting equipment, instruments capable of detecting atmosphere changes, and spirit box radios, which quote mutter occasional words and phrases. Well, I thought you always had something to say about the spirit box.

27:23 No, No, they were right. They do mutter occasional words and phrases. I mean, that's that's what happens. Andreas remains quote open minded about the ghosts and spirits that may dwell in his club, provided they leave him and his patrons in peace. He's happy to coexist, he said, quote I don't know what the ghosts make of our club, but I'm sure some of them enjoy it. Maybe they just want to have some fun. Maybe maybe they're just interested. Yeah, maybe they're just perverts. Yeah, perverts. Finally finally do what they always wanted to exactly.

28:04 Well, we're gonna take a quick break, and when we get back, we're going to talk about one of the world's oldest animals right after this, Well we're back, and Michelle, what this article from Huffington Post, I'm pretty sure is talking directly to you. I mean most of them are. That's true. But most of them are telling you to like shoot Gerald Ford or something. They're not telling you anything useful. Oh but I thought they were useful. This headline reads, don't believe the rumors. The world's oldest tortoise is very much alive.

28:51 I knew about this. Oh yeah you did. Yeah, I knew he's alive. I feel like I remember, like five or six years ago hearing he was dead. Oh I heard recently that he was alive, but I didn't hear that he was dead. So because there were Because I remember on Facebook somebody had shared like how sad they were the world's oldest tortoise had died, and I commented, said, it is sad, but on the other side, that tortoise was really racist, really real. That was my joke to it. Reports of the death of the world's oldest living land animal and nearly two hundred year old tortoise were greatly exaggerated.

29:32 He just was asleep. Yes, I was gonna say I mean, if he's not dead that that I guess that is an exaggeration. Jonathan believed to be one hundred and ninety three. Okay, so how do we even know. That because we've been keeping an eye on him for one hundred and ninety three years. Well, it's believed to be one hundred and ninety three. So I bet like we started like fifty eight years ago, that would be my guess. Hmmm maybe, But I mean I could be wrong. It's happened once before. Jonathan believed he won nine ninety three years old, is still kicking, albeit slowly, on the island of Saint Helena. Quote it was a hoax. Annie Dylan, head of communications on the island, told the Associated Press on Thursday about his alleged passing.

30:16 I don't have all those details. I can just assure you that he is very much alive. Oh man. It's like, we're not going to show him to you. We're not going to show him to you, we're not going to show you any photos. We're not gonna do anything to prove it. But he's fine. He's fine, he's fine. Or they bring him out and it's like a weekend at Bernie's thing. Oh weekend at whatever this tortoise's name is. Yeah, it doesn't have a name, does. He he does? Yeah, he has like a like a Jonathan. Yeah, yeah, Jonathan weekend at Jonathan's. Yeah. News of the tortoise's demise spread rapidly on social media on April Fool's Day. Oh there you go. I think the tortoise I was thinking of was one that was like in an American zoo. Oh not like not one hundred ninet three year old, but very old.

31:03 I think that might have been what I was thinking of. An account on x falsely claiming to be that of Joe Hollands, a veterinarian who had worked with the reptile on the West Island, on the island of West Africa in the South Atlantic Ocean, said he was heartbroken to announce the death of the quote gentle giant that outlived empires, wars, and generations of humans. The post quickly accumulated nearly two million views through Thursday, mostly in outpouring of condolences, but Hollands later said on Facebook that he didn't even have an ex account, and something more sinister was afoot. Oh sinister, I like if it's a prank or a hoax. That's sinister though h yeah, do you have any idea the amount of people who will die because people think Jonathan the tortoise is gone. Quote there is a hoax, not even in April, fool going around, Hollands wrote. Quote. The hoaxer is asking for Oh oh, it is a scam.

32:01 The hoaxers asking for crypto donations. Oh why not gift cards? What the hell? I guess we're too good for Google play cards now. Yeah. Guinness World Records lists Jonathan A. Cycles Schile's Sakell's Sekell's giant tortoise as the oldest living land animal and oldest tortoise ever. He was believed to be around fifty years old when he was brought to Saint Helena in eighteen eighty two. So it's longer than you thoughts. Yeah, only a little, yeah, Dylan said. The tortoise was still roaming the grounds of the Governor's residence on the island, best known as the place Napoleon Bonaparte was exiled following his defeat by the British at Waterloo in eighteen fifteen.

32:51 Yay Bonaparte died there in eighteen twenty one, about a decade before Jonathan is believed to have taken his first steps in what would be a very long life. Way to go, tortoise, Yeah, way to still be alive. Yeah, I was not. My money was not on a crypto scandal the or scambo. Yeah yeah, me too. Yeah, we're so sad about the loss of Jonathan the one hundred and ninety three year old tortoise. Buy this, you know, buy torte coin to help support And somebody was like, wait, last week they told me tort coin was to protect torti cats. What's going on here? It's all a lie? But that's that's I mean, I'm not shocked.

33:37 That is the kind of scam that would be on expert who who thinks of that? It just makes me sad, Yeah, because it could have been just a nice April Fool's joke without being malicious. Yeah. I just who's the sound and goes like, what if we say the world's oldest tortoise is dead? Yeah? Donations. Yeah, it's also like you shouldn't pretend things are dead. That'll make people sad. Yeah, especially if it's like your brother and he's dead. Yeah, hey sis, and you're like looking the other way, and then like they come over and they move the cup in front of you. Go ah, you like run out of the room that and then and then and then you come back at the room and go, if you buy me, if you send me ten bitcoin, I'll pretend you.

34:27 I'll pretend you're alive again. That's good, I'll pretend you're alive again. I'm in a goofy mood today. It's been a long week. I was out of town two weekends in a row, so I had a lot to catch up on, including sleep. And I don't know about you, my allergies have been insane. Man, haven't been too bad. I don't know. I was mowing the lawn and doing the edging the other day and I was just like filling cleanexes with just like that weird. You know, you're clearly not snick, yet you have an immense amount of snot. Were you blowing your nose while you were working? I was stopping and getting a tissue. I didn't want to like snot all over myself.

35:10 Oh, you're just supposed to just let it run. I wish I had that kind of confidence. I don't believe in myself like that. It's Okay, I understand. But maybe I will if I buy enough tortue coin and get those massive gains. Yeah, yeah, to the moon. Yeah. We're going to take a quick break and when we get back, we're going to talk about a haunted village in Britain and why Michelle will almost certainly want to move there. Yeah. Right after this, Michelle, Yeah, we're heading back to Mirror dot co dot UK. The headline is most haunted village in Britain where fifteen ghosts rome and screams heard after dark.

36:10 That's not that many ghosts. It's how many do you have? Then? Like more than fifteen? Really? Yeah? And they roam and scream after dark. I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand. When I first read the headline, I thought it just had fifteen ghosts Roman scream yeah, And I was like, that's really weird. But screams heard after dark less weird. I guess, I guess, I guess, But I didn't realize you were so maggoty with ghosts. I am jealous. Yeah, you're very lucky. You're a lucky young lady. During daylight hours.

36:52 Pluckley and Kent appears to be your typical charming English village. However, don't let its delightful appearance deceive you, as once darkness falls, the village transforms into an extremely eerie location. Yeah, if ghosts make you nervous, this might not be your ideal destination for Halloween. Tucked away in the Kent countryside, the village is home to just one thousand residents. It's pretty small, yeah, living in a mixture of charming cottages and scenic country properties. Right. Yet, alongside the living inhabitants, the village is believed to house fifteen ghosts.

37:42 I mean, that's a relatively small portion of the town that are ghosts. I feel like that's a I think that's a high percentage. If there's a thousand people and then there's fifteen ghosts, I think that's a lot of ghosts. That's not even that's that's not even ten. No, But are we supposed to have ten percent by volume ghosts? What is that like? One point five percent of the residents or ghosts? Yeah, that's I think that's a lot, I guess. I mean, honestly, I didn't think ghosts were as common as like Jewish people, and apparently they are. Geez Among its numerous haunted locations is the Screaming Woods, which has named after Philip Screaming Now, which which has drawn many courageous visitors recently with people camping beneath the tree canopy. Oh wow, that's a creepy image.

38:43 I'm gonna show it to you, I think. Okay, yeah, I think I can Okay, Yeah, that's a pretty cool picture. I mean it looks like yeah, yeah. Very foggy. I mean, kind of what I would expect from the English countries. Multiple reports have emerged of the sound of screaming men and women once night arrives. These are believed to be the cries of those who perished after becoming lost in the woods. They were just screaming. Is that what you do when you're lost? That's what I do? Oh? Is that what you're supposed to do? Is that how people find you? Yes? Oh, you missed that day in second grade? I guess, remember kids, and don't scream help, Just generally scream. Oh, that's how people know. Additionally, witnesses claim to have seen everything from spectral horse drawn coaches to hanging corpses in the haunted cemetery. People report hearing agonized screams from a dying man and a mourning mother.

39:53 That's sad geez. Below are some of the other spine chilling, inexplicable sightings from Pluckley the Highwayman hauntings. The apptly named Fright Corner is a road in Plucky where the apparition of a highwayman is frequently observed. He's thought to be the spirit of a highwayman. He just keeps saying highwayman, over and overhead. Highwayman who met his death in the eighteenth century. Legend has it he clashed with the village of peacekeepers, who reportedly pinned him to an oak tree with a sword. Ouch. Yeah, that was smart. Ghost enthusiasts claim the sword fight replays itself, always ending the same way.

40:36 Well, I mean, it's not gonna end a different way. No, that'd be weird. And then all of a sudden he would just be like, hey, I didn't die, And then somebody walked by and is that my grandpa because now he has grand. Yeah, everything's fixed. Yeah, the time different like I am. And then one of the ghost senders were like ah and like stab him, and then the grandson would just like evaporate to protect the timeline the spectral timeline. Whilst the woods might appear an ideal spot for a walk, Dicky Buss Lane should be given a wide berth. According to accounts, there have been sightings of the corpse of a teacher who hanged himself. Rumors suggest he ended his life following World War One, with his body discovered by the miller. By the miller Dickie several weeks afterwards. Okay, oh, here we go. Let's get into the screams of agony. To this day, witnesses claim to hear the bone chilling screams of agony from the brickswork site. This is where an unfortunate brickworker met a gruesome death when crushed by a wall of clay.

41:40 Oh oh, you mean, like oh as an osha, osha. I mean sort of. I'm just confused, like what this wall of clay is there? What is it doing. I'm guessing he was building the wall of clay because he was a brickworker, so oh, I guess, or he was using the wall of clay build the bricks or whatever. I guess. Yeah. The eerie sound of horses hoofs is regularly heard by residents in Pluckley villagers have also reported spotting a horse drawn carriage on Moltman's Hill. Yay. One babysitter once described seeing the coach with light streaming from its windows, drawn by horses. In nineteen ninety seven, a motorist nearly crashed after hearing the clip clop of hoofs on cobbles whilst driving on a tarmac road.

42:35 Can you imagine that making you crash? You just hear a sound and you crash. I mean, I can't imagine being British. Oh, it's not. It probably wouldn't be like weird or anything. Hmm, okay man, you really don't like the British. A cemetery is an is unsettling at the best of times, but Pluckies will make your blood run cold. The Red Lady is believed to haunt the graveyard of Saint Nicholas. The local church Lady Daring, was laid to rest there during the eleven hundreds, entombed in a lead coffin adorned with a single red rose. Local residents have reported sightings of her spirit drifting through the graveyard, desperately searching for her stillborn child's final resting place.

43:30 They should just tell her where it is. Seein it's kind of a running gag. Now they're like the teller, don't tell her? Okay? Which is which is harsh? It really is? It's pretty mean. Yeah. The charming Pinnock Bridge offers visitors a peaceful spot to admire the breathtaking landscape. However, you may find yourself sharing the space with a spectral gypsy woman. Oh, I mean, i'd be even a regular one would probably be like this. I hope this doesn't make my day less good? Yeah? Yeah. Legend tells of how she earned her keep by selling watercress gathered from the stream below. The gypsy's apparition has been witnessed perched on the bridge, puffing on a pipe at the very location where she tragically perished in an accidental fire. On the bridge caught on.

44:25 Fire and she died on the right I guess, so, perching on the bridge when it was on fire. Puffing on a pipe. What's going on? This is a lot. I'm not sure I understand. I don't understand. Uh. The atmospheric Blacksmith's Arms is reportedly home to three spine chilling spirits. I think that's a pub amongst the supernatural visitors are a tutor maid, a coachman, and a cavalier. Man. I hate when people use the word ghouls not literally, because that part was headlined as pub ghouls and ghouls originally were like flesh eaters. So I was like, oh, man, that sounds scary, and it's like a Now they're just ghosts, and like, oh, like everything else, they're just ghosts.

45:12 Yeah. It's like when I hear goblins and ghouls, I'm like, hell, yeah, let's see some weird stuff. You know, it's Richard Dickey. What did you say. It's tough out there. Yeah, Richard Dickey Buss, who is said to have discovered the body of the hang teacher, now allegedly haunts the village derelict windmill, the Pinnix. Okay, so we mentioned earlier Dicky Buss discovered the hung teacher. So now Dickie Buss is also a ghost. So the guy who discovered that dead body is now himself a ghost. This place is maggoty with ghosts. Yeah, with fifteen ghost see what I mean when we read them out loud, this is a lot of ghosts. It does feel like a lot of ghosts, but it's not, but it's not.

45:56 Dicky shut down the mill in nineteen thirty and nine years later it was obliterated by a violent storm when lightning struck. His ghost is believed to linger at the eerie site, typically appearing just before thunderstorms roll in. Hm, ooh, the scariest one of all, the White Lady. At least when you work in customer service, the scariest one of all. A phantom known as the White Lady is said to roam Saint Nicholas Church, along with the library of her former family residence, Sarend and Daring. The grand house was destroyed in a fire in nineteen fifty two. This sounds like a very flammable town. M h.

46:37 Everything's just going on fire. On fire everything. We have bridges, gypsy women who are selling watercress. Yeah, it's tough out there, man. Yeah. But her spirit has reportedly been seen from the US embassy, who used the property as a base between World War one and two. And finally, oh wait, no, wile they're wait, oh my god, just when you think they can't get worse. At Mirror dot co dot UK. I haven't been reading the numbers, but this is number ten because it's number number ten, another man who took his own life is said to haunt Plucky. A colonel who hanged himself in Parkwood is said to have been spotted wandering among the trees.

47:20 Much of the area has been cleared, but his spirit remained. Now Number eleven is the mistress of rose Court, is said to have taken her own life by eating a handful of poisonous berries. The house resembles a charming village home and is two hundred and fifty years old. Then it's number fourteen. It just went from eleven to fourteen. No, no, no reason, it's just eleven to fourteen. Wow, finally number fourteen. Two haunted pubs aren't enough for the most haunted village in Britain. The Daring Arms used to be a hunting lodge and is now said to be home to the ghost of a woman wearing a bonnet. That's what she gets.

48:00 She's wearing a bonnet. That's the whole thing. Yeah. Wow. She has been spotted by numerous customers and her spirit appears so vivid that she has been mistaken for a real drinker. Oh okay, we've been talking about getting a bonnet for the cats putting the two in a bonnet. Why no, she's like a little baby in a bonnet. Why. I don't know. She'd probably hate it is why. Oh, okay, so you just want you just want to antagonize her. It's not like she doesn't antagonize us. Yeah, that doesn't mean you should do it too. Uh, the bigger thing mammal. Yeah, we'll see. We're gonna take a quick break and when we get back. Some people hiking in a remote desert make a chilling discovery right after this. Now we're heading to the desert. You have no feeling about that. I don't know. This is from People magazine or People dot com, and the headline reads, hiker finds human skull in remote desert area in California. Oh, apparently near a Joshua tree. Because there's a picture of a Joshua tree.

49:26 Oh well, that's nice. Those are weird. I mean, they're cool, they're just unusual Joshua trees. I guess I have nothing against them. I actually think they look really cool, but they're not like anything else. For the most part. They're very odd when you first look at them. A hiker came across what Oh, I just said, Yeah, I'm going to get you a Joshua tree for Christmas. I don't think it can live here. Why, Like you don't think you can find a job? Like is the economy two weak? Yeah. A hiker came across a human skull while hiking in a desert area in southern California on the morning of Wednesday, April twenty second. At seven thirty am local time, officials received an alert that human remains had been found near Adobe Road and Baseline Road in twenty nine Palms. The San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department said in a statement a person had been hiking in the remote desert area and stumbled upon what seemed to be the skull of an adult human. How would you react if you were hiking along and you found a skull, a human skull.

50:37 I guess I'd be like, oh no, and then I'd want to touch it. And then I'd be like, no, you're not supposed to touch it, and then I'd call the police. I was hoping I've had a feeling that was where. What would happen is you'd be like, oh no, ooh no. Don't touch the skull. The skull, but it's calling to me. I have to know what it feels like. And they're like, oh, I guess I could just touch my own head. Yeah, it's pretty good. Not the same because there's stuff on it. There's stuff on it. We pick it off like a pizza. You don't like. Oh yeah, I guess I could touch my teeth. That might be closer. That's close. It's kind of the same. Not really though, because your teeth aren't made of bone. They're made out of an other thing that's like bone.

51:21 Oh, but I don't have access to other bones. I mean you have. Maybe one day you'll have a compound fracture. You got to be positive. Okay, fine, I can wait. After deputies from the Marango Marongo station arrived, they called in homicide detectives from the Sheriff's office. Investigators searched the area and recovered the skull. Quote the skull appeared to have been exposed to an extended period of time. Oh, for an extended period of time, The Sheriff's Department said. An extensive search of the area was conducted and the remains will undergo a forensic examination. Authority shared a further shared no further details about the case, only saying that DNA results are pending. The San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department did not immediately respond to People's request for comment. Hmmm.

52:11 An agency spokesperson told the Los Angeles Times that if the remains are not identified, the skull will stay in evidence as investigators wait for a missing person's report to be filed. The investigation may be reclassified as a cold case if the remains go unidentified, according to the paper. I mean, that's that's how you do it. I guess CSI Missing Skulls Unit or whatever that song. Was, Yeah, that was yeah, I think so too. Yeah, I'm old. What do you want? You know? I just that's what I like. I like law and order.

52:51 I know. Well, we're going to head to where is this to New York State? Uh. This is a news report from WHC. The headline is what the hell is that? Webster police now investigating mysterious explosions and flashes of light caught on camera. Huh. Flashes of light and explosions were captured late Saturday night. Since then, other neighbors in Webster said they heard different booms this week. Chief investigative reporter Berkeley Breen has documented the explosions since Thanksgiving, but for the first time now Webster police told him they have an active investigation. Quote this is the neighbook.

53:35 Sorry, so things have been blowing up since Thanksgiving and they're just investigating now. Well, I imagine if there are mysterious explosions, it means they don't know where they're coming from. Yeah, I guess. Quote this is the neighborhood where the latest explosions were recorded, and the flash of light appears to have come from the north, Breen said, And we're about two miles from Lake, Ontario. Paul Morrile was a leap Saturday night when he heard a loud boom quote boom. I immediately jumped out and duck my head down and thought, what the hell is that? Moral said. It was an explosion, actually two of them, back to back, a flash of light then the sound, and the sound in those videos doesn't even capture it.

54:19 I mean it was a very it is a very boom, like a flash bang boom. Morals said. I love when when sentences are transcribed it can be very funny because like if you heard him just say that, it wouldn't feel odd, but yeah, you read it, it's like what. Breen started tracking these explosions in the fall. Joel Calcagno's cameras caught them in October. It sounds like something exploding, Calcagno, said, Webster's neighbor. Webster neighbors caught them again in December. Brian Hensel captured explosion sounds with a flash of light. It didn't sound like lightning, it didn't sound like fireworks. It was significant. Hensel said, ooh, my first thought would be fireworks. Yeah.

55:05 My only thought is that maybe they aren't explosions. Then they just sound like what someone thinks an explosion sounds like, which is what boom. Somebody used to do a remix of that song, you know, boom, Here comes the boom ready or not? But use that sample of you going boom quote. Oh sorry. North of the neighborhood that recorded the explosions are open farm fields. Yeah. Yeah, what did you say? That's how they get you? Oh yeah, you think the farmers are going to get them, yeah, with the explosions with the boom. Yeah. Breen was standing out about three miles from the neighborhood at Webster Park last year. Webster said it looked into the explosions and found no evidence. Now the police consider the latest explosions and act of investigation. Quote the sound just opens you write up jostles you right away. Moral said, so it sounds like these were like really powerful explosions.

56:11 Or sounds that people are thinking are explosions. Yeah, why are you so anti this being an explosion? Because I feel like it was an explosion. We'd have like evidence of an explosion. Oh you mean like physical evidence. Yes. Yeah. The town of Webster and the police said this is an active investigation and that all information they're prepared. That is all the information they're prepared to release right now. Wow sucks, this is Yeah, it's it's weird. I mean I would be pretty mad if there was an explosion and nobody could figure out what it was. Yeah, you know, not an explosion. Why are you being like this because there's.

56:52 No evidence that it's an explosion. I mean, apparently there are ring door cameras that caught bright flashing lights and sounds. But that could be anything. Right, I don't know, it can't be literally anything. It's not a horse. You don't know that. That's just one of my pet peeves that it could be anything. No, it can't it can't literally be anything. It has to be things that are similar. No, literally be anything. Okay, we're gonna take a quick break and we get back. We're gonna talk about hot air balloons. Okay, Right, that was not the response I was expecting from you. Okay, so cell, Yeah, you have a backyard. Obviously, I've seen your backyard. I know that you have one.

57:54 Have you ever found anything in your backyard you that like you weren't expecting or wasn't yours or shouldn't be there? Yeah? What was it? Found? Bones? Chicken bones? Scary? I found a wire that was severed. Then I don't know why it was there in the. Ground, in the ground or on the electrical wire in the. No, like inside the dirt. How did you find. Doug for it? So you were just digging around? Well I was. I was going to plant a tree. But yes, that's a little odd. Yeah, but never anything like whoa what is that doing in my backyard?

58:43 Well, if we're talking about hot air balloons in my backyard? Oh, sorry, you're ruining the excitement. I'm sorry, Yes, we're talking about hot air balloons in your backyard. Because I wanted to say I'm sorry, I just wanted to to do that because when I lived in New Jersey, hot air balloons did come in my backyard. Wait say that again. What when I lived in New Jersey, hot air balloons did come in my backyard? What? Well they didn't. There is so so in my backyard behind the backyard I lived in, and there was like a there was like a little field that was supposed to be a drainage ditch, but people would play in it and golf in it and shoot arrows in it until we made them stop because we called the police.

59:34 Arrows. Yeah, it was not a good idea shooting at people's houses the direction of people's houses. Anyway, For a long time, every year, hot air balloons would land there. Oh yeah, that's pretty cool. Until somebody shot an arrow through one. And the yeah, and they stopped. Yeah, no, I don't know why they stopped, but it was really cool. They would land and just hang out for and then they'd go away. They probably land and to dally eat sandwiches or something. Maybe All right, let's get stretch, to stretch their legs. Yeah, there's a spot down there. Let's just go over here behind these houses. Yeah, well that's nice, But were you aware that that was gonna happen or it just happened. No, it just happened.

1:00:15 Oh that's kind of wild. Yeah yeah. Uh. The only experience I have is like, there was a hot air balloon at my school one time, but it was like a thing like there today they're gonna have a hot air balloon. Yeah no, they would just be there and you're like, oh, there's a hot air balloon back there. All right. I can't imagine traveling in a hot air balloon. It sounds kind of scary. It does sound kind of scary. Yeah, maybe I'm a coward. I mean I would do it. It just sounds scary. Yeah, that's that's probably where I'm where I'm at to uh well, from Huffington Post, we have a headline hot air balloon makes emergency landing in California backyard. Yay, so uh interesting the photo the backyard doesn't even look that big.

1:01:05 Yeah yeah, which makes me think it was legitimately an emergency landing. They're like, oh crap, I think we can thread the needle and get into this backyard. Oh god. A balloon landed in a southern California backyard. A balloon with thirteen people. Oh. The enormous hot air balloon with a pilot and passengers in the basket, descended perfectly Saturday on a small plot of grass at a home in Temecula. Hunter Perrin said he had no idea that he had visitors until a neighbor alerted him, Hey, you know you got a hot air balloon at your backyard. What. Yeah, it's like, you know, it's like eight stories tall whatever, so it's very obvious.

1:01:50 Oh yeah, you might want to check that out. Yeah, I guess I should before I let the dog out. Huh yeah. Quote I was watching TV. Oh my god, it's like what I described m Quote. I was watching TV and my wife was doing yoga. Parent told the Associated Press there was a man standing in my in front of my door saying they just landed. What. I was very confused? Dude, You should you have you're friendly with a couple of your neighbors. You should go to them on April Fool's Day next year and just be like, hey, they just landed. They give them no other no other information. Yeah, they'd love that. They probably like it's so nice to have Michelle actually come and visit. Oh they like you. Oh, they don't They're like, what a nice lady. Oh, I think that's probably what they're thinking.

1:02:41 My next door neighbor has been gone for like a week, and I don't know where he is. Oh. I assume he went on vacation or something, but he didn't tell me, so I'm scared. And also he might just be trying to get away from me. So is the mail piling up? No, because his uncle picks it up. Oh that's fine. So I mean, I know he's not dead in the house at least, and his car is not there. But where is he? How come he did and tell me he was leaving so that I could go into his house and look at his things. Yeah. Really, people are so inconsiderate now, Yeah, but there they were a group of anxious people, suddenly relieved to be on solid ground. Paren's grassy backyard patch is only about ten feet wide. I was right. It was really small.

1:03:30 It's really small. Oh my god, it's like the size of my bedroom. Not my big bedroom, my small bedroom. Oh look at you flex him. You got all these bedrooms. Oh yeah, eh, home ownerships really changed you. Quote. It was unbelievable, like something out of a Disney fairy tale. Jenna Parrin said, the balloon didn't hit our house or our trees. It was kissing the fence. Wow, it really let me see if I could show you real quick, because like the still image of the basket, like it really is snug. Look at that. Oh yeah, yeah, there's not that much room in there.

1:04:11 Are Yeah, it's not a big yard at all. No, So they really threaded the needle, so to speak. Now, if I could just find where I was reading. Brianna Avlos and her husband were riding in the balloon to celebrate their tenth wedding anniversary. She said the pilot informed passengers that he needed to make an emergency landing because of low fuel and the shift in winds. That's just what they always say when they need to go to the bathroom really bad. Like that's what they say, yeah. Quote. At first, I was like, oh my god, we're in a backyard. This is crazy. Clearly somebody from the city, I guess, like, not from the suburbs, eh hmm. The blue balloon, with gold stars and a crescent moon image was a spectacle as it came to rest in the backyard, towering over the parents home. The pilot disembarked, the passengers returned aloft, and then landed the balloon nearby in the street.

1:05:10 Oh wow, wow, I feel like it's safer in the backyard than in the middle of the street. We're going to put it in the street. Because the balloon is going to like get it'll get stuck on your roof or in the trees. You need a place to dismantle it. But now people can't go down that street because there's a balloon in the middle of it. Well, the goodness is they'll see it, so they'll notice that. I think the backyard you just need space. Yeah yeah, but it was good not dropping the people in the middle of the road. Eyah, whatever, cheese. The pilot disembarked the passengers, which are loft, then landed the balloon nearby in the street, where it was dismantled. He was an amazing pilot, avelope, said Denny Barrett, the owner of Magical Adventure, which provides the balloon rides, declined to identify the pilot, but said he had quote exercised great judgment and done the right thing.

1:06:05 I mean, why didn't they have enough fuel? Though that's true, I mean it could have been Avlos because it was her tenth wedding anniversary. And you know how women are lying about their weight. Oh oh yeah, that'll I'll do it. But I think he had to go to the bathroom. That's my personal opinion. Yeah, well, did he ask to use their bathroom when they landed? It doesn't say that here, but probably. I mean, wouldn't you even if you even if you didn't land because you had to go, wouldn't you be like. You should probably go to the bathroom? Yeah? Yeah, quote. Most of our landings are in wine country, Barrett said, referring to vineyards in California's Riverside County. Usually they're bigger backyards. That's good, good attitude. I'm glad nobody.

1:06:51 Got me too. Well, we're going to take a quick break and when we get back, we're going to go into a darker story that I don't know what to make up right after this. So Shell, this one comes from your beloved enpr yay, And I'm not gonna lie. This article is weird and kind of like darkly humorous, but also I don't even know how to feel about this Yay. The headline is a professional corn hole player and quadruple amputee is arrested for murder.

1:07:38 What oh, I feel like I know about this. You know you probably think of a different one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean literally, this is a young man with no arms and no well I mean he has most of his arms gone and his leg's gone, who apparently was a professional cornhole player, which I didn't know that there was a professional corn hole But also I didn't know you could do it while missing limbs like that, so many limbs, I think you do it? Oh sure, I mean the picture of him he is wearing. He has like prosthetic legs you know, to run in and stuff, which is awesome, but it's a lot to take in. And then is arrested for murder. Yeah yeah, so you see what I mean. It's a lot. A professional corn hole player who is a quadruple amputee has been arrested in connection with a fatal shooting.

1:08:32 Oh now I'm even more confused. What you thought it'd be stabbing or like what I was. Thinking, like like poison or something, you know, like it, or like I thought, maybe like choking them to death like strangulation. Geez, good to know that's where your mind goes. Well, I was just thinking of things you could do without all of your your limbs. Mm. Okay, then you made it weird, Jelle, I'm sorry you made it weird. Sorry. Dayton Weber, twenty seven, is accused of killing a man in the front seat of his car during an argument on Sunday in his hometown of Laplata, Maryland, about thirty miles south of West Washington, d C. According to the Charles County Sheriff's Office, huh, you know of all the places Maryland would be where this would happen.

1:09:25 Totally. I feel like Maryland has gotten kind of a pass. Like I think in the nineties people kind of stopped picking on Maryland for being like weird and trashy. It used to be that was a constant joke. Like you know, I went to Maryland and got crabs was a T shirt. Oh yeah, you know, like all that stuff. And I actually really liked Baltimore and stuff, like I've had really fun times hanging out there, But there was like it really was like in a lot of ways, it was like a miniature Florida as far as like being picked on when I was growing up, and that kind of stopped. Yeah, I mean I don't remember that happening at all. Oh it's stopping. Oh no, it happening. Oh, okay, fair enough, rude. I expect that from somebody who says Florida instead of Florida.

1:10:11 I'm sorry that you hate my accent. No, you hate mine is the problem. Stop saying it wrong. No, I never ever tell you to stop saying the thing's wrong until you bring it up. You have literally told me like that, that's not how you say it. You've told me that that's not how you say it to me too. No, I've said that's not how it's spelled. Honestly, we could go into that, but it would be it would be a thing. It would be, it would be, it would be a thing. Yeah, we'll just exit this conversation again. Sorry that you don't like my accent.

1:10:53 There are a lot of Ohio people that say exit too, So there's that. The Sheriff's office said in a press release that passengers in the back seat saw Weber shoot Braderick Michael Wells, also twenty seven before he pulled over and asked them to quote help pull the victim out of the car. So confused, they refused and left, at which point Weber fled with the victims still in the car. All of the passengers knew each other, Authority said, okay, yeah. Nearly two hours later, a resident of Charlotte Hall, Maryland, about fourteen miles away, called police to report a quote body in a yard. Oh shit, The Sheriff's office said.

1:11:36 Responders identified Wells and pronounced him dead at the scene. Detectives found Weber's car over one hundred miles away in Charlottesville, Virginia, Virginia, and got a warrant for his arrest. They were helped in their search by Virginia's able. I'll i'll be Marl. Al, it's i'll be Marl. I don't think that's how you pronounce it, but I know what you mean. I'lbe Marle County Police Department, which said in a separate statement that one of its officers spotted Weber's vehicle at a gas station and used surveillance footage to track him down. Weber was arrested at a local hospital, where authority said he was quote seeking treatment for a medical issue. Okay, was it the no arms and the legs.

1:12:22 Or I'm really confused. He was charged as a fugitive from Justice, and public records show he was booked into Able Marl Charlottesville Regional Jail on Monday. Yeah. The Sheriff's office says Weber is awaiting extradition back to Maryland, where he will be charged with first degree second degree murder, first degree murder, second degree murder and quote other related charges. But running from but. I'm guessing fleeing the scene of a crime or temperate evidence what the something or other disposal of a human remains? Yeah? Yeah. Jail Superintendent Colonel Martin Kuemer told NPR in an email that the court quote did not address extradition at its Tuesday morning hearing. He said Weber's next scheduled court date is quote sometime in April, though his attorney could potentially ask for one even sooner. And PR has reached out to Weber's attorney and i'll be Marle County Court for comment, but did not hear back in time for publication. The Charles County State's Attorney's office declined to comment. Authority say the murder investigation is ongoing and are asking anyone with relevant information to call or submit tips online. Okay, now you want to learn more about the accused Yeah, you're so confused. I feel like that's the only solution.

1:13:48 Yeah. At ten months old, Weber was diagnosed with a bacterial infection strepto caucus pneumonii pneumonier. Okay, that turns so aggressive. He was given last rites. Oh that's bad. When a priest comes and says like, good luck on the other side, homie, like that, that means you are about to leave. Yeah. Quote, they had actually given me a three percent chance of living, and the only way that they were able to save me was by getting the infections out of my system. Well, and that makes sense, that's how you do it. Oh. Oh, they had to amputate my arms and legs to keep me alive, so that's where the infection was. Well at first, that sounded like an obvious statement, and I was like, oh, it's because he was leading into what happened to his arms and legs.

1:14:37 Yeah. That didn't stop Weber from pursuing and excelling at sports, including football and wrestling. In fact, ESPN profiled him in twenty ten after the then twelve year old finished fourth in his weight class in the Southern Maryland Junior Wrestling League. Weber said at the time that it was his favorite sport, adding quote, I like using my strength and being fit. Sometimes when I I watch my teammates in certain situations, I wish I had hands, But I just try to do things my own way, added the rising seventh grader who said he wanted to be a priest or a secret service agent one day. Aw, that was cute. I like the disparity, like priest or a secret service agent.

1:15:20 That's and then he shot someone dead. Yeah, what happened like to him? You know, like like did he become like a fucking drug dealer or something? You know, like I mean to be that violent, like out of nowhere. I don't know, let's see. Weber was crowned Maryland's best corn hole player in twenty twenty. He explained in the piece wrote in a piece he wrote for Today that he doesn't wear his prosthetics in competition because they don't allow the same level of sensitivity or control, and has adopted his technique to throw the bags by their corners for more leverage. Okay, this, yeah, this is interesting. Weber turned pro in twenty twenty one twenty five season, becoming the first quadruple amputee in the history of the American Cornhole League, the governing body, founded in twenty fifteen, organizes tournaments that are broadcast on ESPN and CBS Sports. The league confirmed to NPR on Tuesday that Weber had not been an active participant since late twenty twenty four. Nonetheless, it issued a statement acknowledging the allegations and declining to comment on them while proceedings are ongoing. That's a story that just keeps on giving.

1:16:32 I'm just confused because I mean, obviously I don't understand, but like, how did he shoot a gun? I mean, I don't know. I'm so are you saying you're confused as to how he was armed? No, we're going to take a quick break and when we get back, some more fire in the sky for this. I'm so sorry. All Right, we're back and this story comes from East Idaho News dot com and it's out of Utah. Oh absolutely amazing bright fireball light lit up the night sky and may have been dropped and may have dropped debris over Utah. So some kind of a crazy thing happened, like a meteorite, very bright. Uh. I think I can show it to you, Chelle, can't show it to anybody else.

1:17:47 But you know, but so apparently wow. What oh I did see that? Yeah? Yeah, right, that was like a big like bright light. I don't know, I'm not doing a very good job of describing it. It was a big bright light. It was bright. Yeah. The night sky above Utah was bright as day for just a moment early Thursday, as a suspected meteor burned its way into the atmosphere. Space experts say the flash of light was most likely a meteor burning up as it slammed into Earth's atmosphere, creating what's known as a fireball. Why are you that's a great line. What's known as a fireball? Why are you shaking your head?

1:18:30 I'm pretty sure when it enters Earth's atmosphere it's a meteorite, not a meteor anymore. Do you know the difference between earth rocks and space rocks? Though? No, what space rocks are a little meteor. Yeah, I thought, but I couldn't like connect it fast enough. I think you're right, it becomes a meteorite. But then again, it was a meteor until it burned through the atmosphere. But then it was a meteorite, and they called it a meteor. Meteor now now we have to find figure this out or people will die. Huh. But then that would make the film meteor. Man, wrong, meteorit Man.

1:19:12 Oh shit, you're wrong. No really, sort of. A meteor is the streak of light caused by a space rock burning up in Earth's atmosphere. A meteorite is the actual rock that survives this journey and lands on Earth's surface. Interesting, I didn't know that, or I did and I messed it up. And a meteoroid is uh is the name for the object while it is still in space. Okay, all right, so yeah, you weren't like totally off. It's just it's just the definition was a little different. Yeah. Often your definition would often apply. Though if it landed.

1:19:54 Yeah, that's like all good jokes. Hey. Space experts said the flash of light was most likely multiple creating what's known as a fireball that kills me. Multiple reports confirmed the fireball lit up the sky at four fifty AM across Utah and neighboring states. Dozens have reported the site to the American Meteor Society, but the agency hadn't confirmed it as a meteor as of Thursday night. Quote. Yeah, it was amazing. I will say this. It was absolutely amazing, said Herb Patterson, who was driving through Spanish Fork at the time. Patterson described the moment as intense and unexpected.

1:20:36 It'd be weird if it was like it was intense but expected, like I'm used Toke's giant lights exploding in the sky. Yeah, but not like that quote quote. I just see a light that's really dim that started getting brighter and brighter and brighter, and I'm thinking to myself, what is that? And it was kind of eerie at first, he said, And then just the whole sky and all the roads and everything around met up for like a fraction of a second. Then it was gone. Kind of yeah, that would be that'd be wild. Yeah. Yeah. Video captured in Tool County shows the bright flash cutting across the sky, matching reports from drivers and early risers throughout the region. It's also still unclear whether any piece of the meteoroid OH ever reached the ground. Look at them using the other words, I'd never hear people say meteoroid.

1:21:25 Wait, heroid, But it wouldn't be meteoroid because meteoroids are when they're in space, so would be meteorite if it was on the ground. No, I'm confused. It's still unclear whether any pieces of the meteoroid ever reached ground, So it's not clear if the meteoroid became a meteorite or not. Okay, but wouldn't it just be a meteor that is in a meteoroid when it's still in space. Yes, but a meteor a meteor is when it's flashing in the sky like a shooting star. Is a meteor? Oh God, I don't know. This is hard because the movie meteor Man makes me think it's just called a meteor. But clearly also that's one of those words. If we said enough, it really starts to sound weird media media meteor. According to Jason Trump, educational program manager at Clark Planetarium and NASA Solar System Ambassador, recovery depends largely on where fragments may have landed. Quote, if it landed in an area that has a lot of rock, say in one of the canyons of Utah, well it's going to be very difficult to find. If it landed somewhere like the salt flats, it could be recovered like there was a few years ago. The timing of the fireball isn't unusual. February through April is what NASA refers to as fireball season, when there are increased reports of fireballs in the daytime and nighttime skies. That's interesting.

1:22:51 A lot of college women call spring break fireball season two for different reasons. Though. Oh don't know what people say when they drink fireballs. I didn't have a joke beyond that. Utah is also in the midst of two meteor showers. Oh yeah, the Lyrid and etta acharids. But experts said this fireball was something different. Oh that's ominous. Yeah, something like this would have been a big chunk of rock that did not come off of a comet. Trump explained, most likely it came from somewhere in the asteroid belt. He added that this week's fireball is timed nicely with the recent return of the astronauts aboard NASA's Artemis two mission.

1:23:38 He said they experienced a similar fiery descent as they re entered the atmosphere. Scientists study meteors like Thursday's fireball to better understand how to protect astronauts during high speed returns to Earth. Yay, that's pretty cool. I do you remember on the Simpsons speaking of Artemis too? Do you remember there was an episode of the Simpsons are basically NASA is trying to figure out how to spice up space launches because nobody cares anymore mm hmm, because they have the whole the whole guy where they're like, we need like an average guy to be on the ship to make it more interesting because people are like changing the channel when there's space launches. Because that was one of the jokes. It's like, oh God, quick, don't make me watching they're boring space launch. Chang the channel. Boy.

1:24:21 So but it just made me laugh because when I heard about the Artemis ship being launched in space, I was at the Cigar Lounge and I had never I didn't know anything about it at all. Really, I had not heard a word about it. It was and I heard about it because they were talking about how the presidential address was coming up about the launch. I was like, what launch. Oh wow, I'd never heard a word about it. Wow. Really that's amazing. Yeah, But it's also funny. It just tells you the kind of world we live in, because then when I hear about it, I'm seeing like the promotional materials, Like I saw the picture of like all the astronauts standing there and like the cool like you know poses where they look all here and everything, and all I'm thinking is like, wow, they had to hire a firm to take great pictures to make men and women going into space interesting enough for people to care. I just we just have it very good and we're sad that that can't even move the needle for some people. I just I just think it's I you'd think that just hearing hey, you know, they're going into fucking space, you'd be like WHOA.

1:25:26 But instead it's like, now we got to like make sure we have like a video package and some good posters, because otherwise people a gonna be like, Okay, so yeah I've been to space. Yeah probably, I don't know. But what I do know is that I also don't know enough about Lake Lake Lanier. So we're gonna be talking all about that right after this break. And I'm really curious about it because last month we started talking about it and realized it was a giant rabbit hole. So we're diving into that right after this. Now we're talking about Lake Lanier, which is one of America's most beautiful and unsettling man made lakes, built over flooded towns, roads cemeteries and pieces of Georgia history that never fully disappeared beneath water. Over the decades, its tragic accidents, eerie legends and dark origin story have turned it into a place where the past feels like it's still waiting just below the surface. That was pretty good breakdown of it. Yeah, so we're diving into a Guardian article about Lake Lanier.

1:26:40 We talked about it a little bit before when we discussed a young man dying in a shocking accident there when he was twenty seven years old. Apparently it's just insanely accident prone and freaky Lake Lanear. But I think like what we heard was mostly like people getting hit by boats and shit, don't do that. People with your boat. The drowning numbers are insane because it was according to George's Department of Natural Resources, the authority responsible for policing lake, two hundred and thirty three of the deaths out of seven hundred reported fatalities, two hundred and thirty three of them were just in the last twenty years. Wait. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy when you think about like we have floaties and stuff.

1:27:27 Now, like, yeah, but you have to wear them otherwise it doesn't work. You're always hung up in details. So this next section is called three Sides of Violence. Okay, this is about the development of Lanier. Rain spits down from slate gray sky as I meet Khan a few days before Halloween at a floating tiki bar on the lake's southern end. And though they're doing what whoa. There's like floating tiki bars in the lake? Yeah, don't do you have lakes with out floating tiki bars. I've never been to a wake that things. That's sad. Yeah, man, now I feel bad for you.

1:28:10 It's okay, It's just part of my life. Man, wait to bring the mood down. Yeah. And though there aren't more than a handful of customers on this bitterly cold for Georgia afternoon, it's not hard to imagine the humanity that engulfs this place in summer months, waves of people rushing back and forth from the bar to the armada of pleasure crafts bobbing alongside the dock outside. Unless you're a Georgian born after nineteen ninety eight, commandeering a rental does not require much more than some credit card. Room An hour on the water can range from seventy five dollars on a jet ski to six hundred dollars for a pontoon, and buyers should be aware of traffic. Quote, you're navigating around people zooming around you on jet skis and people who don't know how to drive a boat, con says as he eases his double decker pontoon out of the lifeless marina. On top of that, you have to reckon with the spirit of alcohol, the ultimate spirit.

1:29:09 I like that guy. Yeah, I'm talking about if it's haunted and he's like the spirit of alcohol, that's the spirit. Yeah. Have you ever rented a pontoon boat? Not no, but no, but other people have rented them, and then I've probably been on them. I mean that that counts. Okay? Was it? Was it? Cool? I don't remember. I think you're so spoiled. Yeah, I've never been on a pontoon boat. Sorry, hurtful, A sturdy ex marine who slicks his cropped silver mane back into a mini man bun in sports Air. Jordan Sneakers at Sea Cohn aka Captain Dave started operating themed boat tours on the lake around his tech job day job about twenty years ago, and he leans into the Lake's folklore for his ghost tours. Woh, this guy sounds pretty cool, Captain Dave, that's cool. Yeah, okay, fine, you don't have to like anything about this lake.

1:30:12 I guess yeah, I don't. Before we get to talking con who is who is white? Asks how deep do you want to go? Because there's a lot of uncomfortable racial truths to the story. After I tell him that I made the ninety minute schlep from the city expressly for his unvarnished version of the legend, he busts out a leather bound replica book from the Disney movie hocus Pocus, where he collects scary stories. I like it. It's like who is White? And then it's like, anyway, I'm in Georgia and use the word schlep, so you know my race too? Like you just want to make sure everybody's covered. Yes. Sometimes he'll pass around handheld electromagnetic field meters to passengers, keen for a true ghost hunt when I ask if, When I ask if the curse has a proper origin story, he describes Lake Lanier's waters as a triangle of dark energy, each of its three sides, reminding us of ugly American history.

1:31:10 That echoes into present day. I like, you're like so skeptical of this whole thing. You're like, I don't trust Captain Dave. I don't trust a tiki bar in the water. I don't know how if I trust any of this lake. We'll see. Yeah. Well, actually I don't dislike Captain Dave or anything, but I dislike the tiki bar. I just think alcohol. These people are drowning a lot here. We don't we don't want that. Those things again, you're just jealous. I can tell of bar floating on stupid. They even have a spot called Buford Dam, which I think is the coolest name for a damn Buford Damn. I guess, man, See, this is what I'm dealing with, guys when I ask if the curse oh sorry uh. The first side of one of the triangle is the violence committed against the Cherokee and Creek Indian tribes who have called this area home for millennia.

1:32:07 When white settlers found or in the nearby Blue Ridge Mountains in the eighteen twenties, kicking off the First American gold Rush, the US government drove those native inhabitants from their land westward into Alabama. The Arkansas territories and what would become Oklahoma. What was touted at the time as manifest destiny would be remembered as the Trail of Tears, one of the worst forced migrations in history, with sixty thousand Native Americans displaced and more than four thousand killed. One documented Trail of Tears removal route ended at what is now the lake's western bank. Ah ooh. The second side of Khan's dark energy triangle is the lake's connection to the Civil War. Quote pain and sorrow that is still underneath the water, he says. Before the Army Corps flooded the area to make Lanier in nineteen fifty six, it attempted to move the graves of soldiers who had been buried there into nearby cemeteries, but left behind many unmarked and abandoned sites to be submerged. Hmmm, the last side, excuse me? The last site is Oscarville, a town settled after the war by many black sharecroppers and skilled laborers that became the backdrop of post reconstruction era racial backlash.

1:33:27 The community was thriving, says Foster, who came across the story in her research, and then the violence started oh uh. Oh, So this is really interesting because America has a lot of folklore around flooding towns to create bodies of water, more than you might think, and often they have the same elements, like when the water level's really low, you can see the top of a church steeple and stuff like that, and a lot of that stuff isn't true. It's just that you can see the church. People. Yeah, there could have just never been one, or maybe it was torn down, but it's because people want Because a lot of times when they flood towns valley towns, everybody's gone and most of it was already in disrepair anyway. Like, it's very rare that many people are I mean, it does happen, but it's rare that people are really being displaced.

1:34:24 Most people have already left because it's just not working. I know a town in New York that they had to flood because something about the aqueducts I don't remember. And that was a full thriving town sure, And so what they did is everyone just moved all of the buildings. They moved the entire town. It was really cool. Actually, yeah, that is cool. Yeah, they like moved them all and they moved them super slow, so like there were people who were like living and going to school in the buildings as they were very slowly being moved up the hill. Yeah, it was pretty cool. There was one I saw I wish the name is escaping me right now. One in Pennsylvania on the western side of PA. But uh, there were all these legends about like people drowning and stuff.

1:35:13 But then when you looked into it, the vill the valley had been flooding on and off for years, so basically everybody left because it was annoying and then fine, and then flooding it intentionally was the way of kind of like ending the trouble. But it's easy to when you hear flooded town, it makes your mind think of stuff, you know, it's creepy out I was saying. This one is clearly a bigger flooding operation than some of these other ones. Most of them are small towns, very small towns. But it's just interesting how when you cover a town and water it makes all kinds of things float to the top. Oh, I'm so good at this. We're going to take a quick break and when we get back, we're going to keep going. I almost sad dive deeper which would have been better into lake Land after this, and Cell will keep being hateful about it all. As we continue our deep dive into Lake Lanier, I'm hoping that during the commercial break, Cell may be eased up a little bit. She's been really judgy about this lake and I'm not exactly sure what it did to you, but you are very like harsh on this one.

1:36:29 I've been very fair about this lake. Wow, she can't even see it. That's how blind she is to her hatred. Let's see. So the last side of the lake, as we were talking about, is Oscarville, a town settled after the War by many black sharecroppers and skilled laborers. During the post reconstruction era quote the community was thriving, says Foster, and then violence started. In nineteen twelve, local black men were accused of raping two young white women, one of them, May Crow, died two weeks after her alleged attack. The incident's royal white residence into violence. One black suspect was shot and lynched by white mobs while awaiting trial. The two men found guilty of Crow's sexual assault and murder after a day long trial, were sentenced to death by hanging, even though it was outlawed in Georgia at the time. Oh yeah, hanging was pretty out of favor in the early nineteen hundreds everywhere.

1:37:32 I feel like, if you kill people in a way that's outlawed, did that mean then you broke the law and then you have to go to jail. I guess they have to kill you too. But if they hang you as well, that it creates a never ending cycle of then that person has to get It's it's weird, the idea of like, you killed him, not in the legal way, you're allowed to kill him. It's it's weird. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not a fan of the capital punishment and I think it's way too. That slope is pretty slippery to make just saying. According to the twenty sixteen book Blood at the Root, which author in which author Patrick Phillips unpacks this painful history, white men on horseback, operating as enforcers for the Ku Klux Klan then banded together to drive black residents out of town, setting fire to their homes, businesses, and churches.

1:38:29 In twenty twenty two, Atlanta resident George Rucker, whose Oscarville roots go back four generations, recalled the story he grew up hearing about his great grandfather's daring escape after the Crow Trials, about his family being chased by an angry mob, the mob blocking access to a bridge across the Chattahoochee, and the options being swim or drown. I know, I feel like that's always the option, though, I mean, yeah, if you're in the water. Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean I was always more afraid of the option of calk the wagon and float or ford the river. If you ever played you never played the Oregon Trail, No I did.

1:39:12 I just played it really badly, so I don't even remember anything except. For dying a lot, getting dysentery every time. Yeah, his grandfather did not make it. The main thing they left was property, Rucker told eleven Alive dot com. And my grandfather had one hundred acres. Oh that's a lot of land to have to let go of. Yeah. Within two months, Oscarville's black population, which accounted for ten percent of residents or about one one hundred people, was reduced to naught. And while the sexual assaults are off cited as the impetus for the racial terrorism, blood at the root traces the racial tension to the economic stress that gripped Georgia at the time. As white farmers lost their lands to foreclosure, they came to see the free black people as an existential threat. White residents took possession of significant portions of the deserted land, sometimes for no compensation.

1:40:10 But after Congress passed the River and Harbor Act of nineteen forty six to address a national flash flooding crisis, paving the way for the construction of George's Buford Dam Told You and the creation of Lake Lanier, hundreds of white residents found themselves forced to sell their ill gotten land for cents on the dollar as the government claimed eminent domain. Wow. See, no matter how big a bully you are, there's always a bigger bully. Yep. I actually think that's kind of a beautiful sentiment though. It's like, we're a big group of tough people. We're gonna force people out, hurt them, and steal their stuff.

1:40:51 And then the federal governments like, we are literally the biggest gang ever known ever and we're legal and we're kicking you out for realm Yeah. Yeah, that's yeah, that's that's the way it goes. Quote the first guy that sold got four thousand dollars for one hundred acres. I don't know how much money that. Is in current It's like, imagine one dollar, but it's four thousand of them. Wow, fabulously wealthy. I could do the calculation real quick. Four thousand dollars in nineteen forty six worth today that would be sixty seven, seven hundred and thirty six dollars.

1:41:39 Oh that's terrible. Yeah. Oh do you mean the purchase price or how bad inflation has been. I was gonna say the purchase price, but we could do both if you want. Yeah, I think it's both. Yeah. No, but that's yeah. That tells you that's that's nothing. Yeah, says Lisa M. Russell, a scholar and author who has written five book books on Georgia's hidden history. Quote. That seems like maybe it was a lot for them because they never had money in their land. But they couldn't rent a place. They couldn't even go back to the land around the New Lake and rent a house because the prices had already gone through the roof. Wow. Yeah, they're like, well, we wanted to move back near where we were, Well, you can't. This is waterfront you know.

1:42:28 Lake Lanier was never supposed to be the most popular man made lake in America, as the New York Times declared it in nineteen seventy one, touting its vibrant boating, fishing, and camping scene. Planned in conjunction with the Buford Dam in nineteen fifty six at a cost of seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars, a bargain even with inflation. The lake was intended as a flood control solution that would also address Metro Atlanta's fresh water demands. So that all makes sense. Yeah, yeah. To save money, the arm Core compacted layers of soil, clay, and rock to form the basin and surrounding embankments instead of completely raising and overlaying the area in concrete. It took two and a half years for Lake Lanier to reach its full pool level. In the process, tens of thousands of acres of farmland, forest, and abandoned towns, including Oscarville, were drowned under several hundred billion gallons of river water.

1:43:22 You were nodding, something hit you. Oh, I just don't like that all the trees dround. Oh I'm sorry, pal. Thanks, It's tough out there. It is in Lake Lanier. It is. It's mean they should have at least moved all of the trees first. That wouldn't have been a massive job. That's what I would do. That's I believe you. Thanks. We're gonna take a quick break and keep learning about Lake Lanier and hopefully get to some ghosts. Damn it. Right after this, Michelle, Yeah, do you know about the Lady of the Lake?

1:44:13 I mean the one that is in the lake? Or which one the one in the lake? Gosh? Back to our article about Lake Lanier. It starts with quote, you know the Lady of the lake? Story? Right, con asks me mid cruise. That's the one about the two women who took off from a filling station without paying their gas bill, lost control of their car over a bridge and plunged to their death in nineteen fifty eight. That's what you get. Yeah, they stole over two and a half dollars worth of gasoline. Oh my god, or. With inflation, one point seventy five million dollars in gasoline.

1:44:55 God. The body of the driver, Delia Darker Young, was later found with missing hands. That's strange. Not if they were in the water and something in the hands yeah. Did you say something or someone? I said something, but I mean. I was worried. You said someone ate the hands. I was like, what the hell show. Over the ensuing years, a number of late lakegoers would report seeing such a figure missing hands and all haunting the area in a blue dress. No hands, look, mom, no hands, with some accusing the phantom of pulling others under water with no hands.

1:45:40 No hands, Come on, no messing. No, we just learned about someone who's shot a gun. Shot a gun while driving with no hands, no legs. It's possible. I guess all things are possible. Apparently, I'm learning. Quote. That's the bridge the car went off of, Con said, pointing to the Jackson Bridge in the distance. You mean the bridge I drove across to get here, right, Con says. He goes on to tell me that the bridge was also the site of the deadliest single incident on Lake Lanier, when a station wagon went off the bridge on Christmas Day nineteen sixty four with eleven people inside.

1:46:25 Wow, that's a lot of people, you believe a station wagon. Yeah, I like that. We both had the exact say, thought, wow, that's so many people in one station wagon. Seven died five of them small children. Well, there you go. H you know, I just pecked him in there, huh. It said the driver of the station wagon, mister Brown, who had been drinking quote rotgut whiskey. According to reports from the day, haunts the lake too. Sometimes con will stop his tours at the bridge, kill the engine, and pull out a flask for a bit more theater. Quote. I'll say, all right, mister Brown, I'm gonna give you a little drink here if you want to let us know you're around. That's when the guests all pull out their ghost meters configures. There are twenty seven unaccounted for bodies in Lake Lanier. If Buchanan, the emergency driver, knows of at least quote twelve bodies in that lake right now that have never been found. Wow, So this is one of those where really like they just keep digging up more, you know, it's just like, here's some more tragedy, and here's some other tragedies.

1:47:35 Yeah. Lake Lanier's congested subsurface environment and rough topography is not all that makes recovery operations especially challenging. Years of pollution only add to the murky picture. Ew yeah, quote picture. Sixty years of beer cans, says Goss, the DNR corporal. My god, do people pollute. I've found fishing equipment at the bottom of the lake, old metal boats that have sunk, fallen rocks and timber. It's all down there and can really hide what you're looking for. I mean, also, there's like a whole forest under there. Well, it's probably gone by now, I mean it's been seven years, I.

1:48:16 Guess, but it's debris down there from the yahs things. Goss is often early on scene for drowning incidents, in addition to operating various echolocation readers as part of DNR's sonar team. He approached he operates one of the department's underwater remote vehicles, a bulky contraption with a camera, lights, and gripper that is about the size of a fancy espresso machine. That's the way to nail that one. When twenty seven year old Ramon Diaz Soria went missing in June near a white sand beach on the lake's western shore after jumping off the side of a boat for fun. I love that they put for fun.

1:48:58 Yeah yeah, well, yeah yeah. Goss was on site shortly thereafter, performing surveys of the disappearance area past nightfall and into the next day. After a twenty four hour search with three drones, Goss's team found Diazsoria sixty feet underwater. Wo Yeah. The gripper drone was not able to latch onto the body because of its awkward position, so a diving team was sent down. Witnesses told authorities that Diazsoria had worn a life jacket that was not properly secured. They said it floated to the surface after he disappeared. That's the worst. Why you just find their life best. The story both stoked more cursed talk and served as a reminder of human errors that are often overlooked in the accounts of Lake Lanier's accidents.

1:49:51 Lakes and Georgia are not actually very deep. But on Lake Lanier you can be thirty feet away from shore and your next step might take you sixty feet down gos So that's really deep for a lake. Lots of lakes aren't very deep. I don't know. You don't know how deep lakes are. No, that's one of those questions like Monty Pyline, How deep is a lake? That's it? How deep is a lake? When I went ski doing on a giant frozen lake in Michigan. I mean the lake you couldn't see one side from the other, was probably twenty miles wide. I think they said that at its deepest it gets to twelve feet. Oh that's not that deep. No, I mean it's deep, but it's not that deep. Yeah, So yeah, they don't always get that deep. So sixty feet deep is pretty deep for a lake.

1:50:38 Okay. The most haunting thing to Tamika Foster about Lake Lanier is not the curse, but finding out quote that there were tons of fatalities I didn't know about prior to her son's vacation there. She accepts the official conclusion that the accident resulted in Jeffrey Simmons Hubbard, a family friend, jet skiing too to Kyle and a fifteen year old girl as their inner tube was being dragged by a pontoon boat so they were out tuban quote. He was on a jet ski for the first time, having fun, zipping around at like sixty seventy miles per hour and heading toward the boat, Foster says, But he didn't realize there were no breaks that you can't stop on water.

1:51:23 He tried to divert from the boat, but ended up running over the kids. He had no idea. How do you not know there's no breaks? I'm sorry? What nobody teaches you things before they let you go out. They usually tell you, like, they usually tell you like five things really quick. No, they should you should have to take a class. Oh my gosh, you're one of those people. Now he just killed some people. Oh yeah, so he should take a class. No, it's too late for him now. Oh oh so he can just have he can just ride it anyway then since he yeah, missed up. Yeah, no, he already knows what he did, so he doesn't need to las anymore. I just don't know how you would think that you could stop on a like stop hard or anything. I mean, like, obviously you'll stop eventually when you stop throttling. But yeesh.

1:52:13 While the girl did recover, Kyle absorbed the brunt of the impact and was pulled from the water with grave head injuries. After being airlifted to an Atlanta hospital, he was put on life support. When he failed to show any signs of improvement. After two weeks, Foster made the painful decision to take him off it. Hubbard was found guilty of homicide by vessel and reckless boating charges and sentenced to four years in prison. Wow, that's scary too, though. No, that is super scary. Yeah, and we'll dig in a little bit more right after this. Back at Lake Lanier. Meanwhile, back at Lake Lanier, that's what I should have said.

1:52:58 Martha Milner, a hired school teacher, has been coming up to her grandfather's Lake Linear cabin since she was a girl. She remembers summer vacation mornings that started with her grandmother packing her a lunch, placing her in a john boat off the backyard dock, and pushing her off to spend the day exploring the limits of the lake with her older brother. It was not until July twenty twenty three, when her twenty four year old son Thomas was electrocuted after jumping into the lake from that same dock, that she began seeing quote so many stories, especially on Facebook, about how the lake is haunted and cursed, but it was our happy place all those years ago. You're just like, who cares? Like you got electrocuted?

1:53:47 Everybody gets like, no, I'm trying to figure out, like how he got electrocuted? Oh, docs are have electricity? Oh damn. Docs are usually lit, and they usually have and they usually have power to use things, you know, like cleaning weapons. Cleaning weapons. Yeah. Well, on the show Ozark on Netflix, which really good show, that's a way they kill somebody like without getting caught. Is they wire They call it wiring a dock. It's where you basically make it so one wire is in the water and one wire is on the on the ladder. So when you touch one while touching, like if you're in the water and then you grab the ladder, you get electrocuted because it creates the connection. Yeah. So I'm assuming it's something along those lines.

1:54:36 Okay, that makes sense. I mean a gang hit, not a accident. Yeah, but apparently it happens accidentally. That's why it was like considered like the perfect plan. Sometimes the wiring just gets messed up. Yeah, it kind of scary. Yeah. An autopsy report determined that Thomas was electrocuted from electricity leaking into the water around the dock. Whether the current came from in their electric box or a neighbors no one can really say. Quote. I kept reading these articles saying a man is electrocuted. No, it wasn't a man. It was a kid. It was my kid. Milner says she has a point of distinguishing Thomas's death from the lake's more reckless incidents, noting he seldom drank and never used drugs. Quote. I wanted people to know that it was not his fault in any way. She says. He did nothing that I haven't done a hundred thousand times before.

1:55:30 Yeah. Yeah. The media attention that Lanier receives pales in comparison to other area human man a human made lakes which can be just as dangerous. Lake Hartwell, a reservoir on the south on the Georgia South Carolina border, had more drowning and boting fatalities than Lake Lanier did in twenty twenty four. In February, Gary Jones and Jocelyn Wilson, a black couple engaged to be married, disappeared as they were celebrating Jones's fiftieth birthday on Lake Oconey, the Vericos twenty thousand acre pool, an hour east of it, like got confused by an hour coming right after that, an hour east of Atlanta that shares Lake Lanier's untidy build Quality authorities discovered their boats circling near the lake's dam with a large frosted chocolate chip cookie on board and dredged up Wilson's body the next day. Oh god, Jones's body was found a month later by by Buchanan. Incidentally, Wow, jeez. Lanier has this reputation, Buchanan says, but it's not well earned for this simple reason. We have a lot of uneducated boaters who come here, and the amount of accidents we have per capita is pretty damn low. See and you were mad about how few ghosts there were in that town.

1:56:50 That was actually plenty of ghosts. I kis per capita. Yeah, okay, you're right, per capita. Lake Lanier gets all all the publicity because it started as a dog and pony show from the very beginning, says Russell, the historian. All those other lakes Lake Ocony, Lake Altoona, you've never heard of them. Nobody knows how they were built. But Lake Lanier, Oh, it's everybody's business. Yeah, okay. They did make it a big to do when they built it, you know. In twenty thirteen, Foster, who lives in Atlanta, established Kyle's World Foundation, which keeps her son's legacy alive by supporting children in the arts. A decade later, she started a petition to drain Lake Lanier to prevent more tragic accidents, though she concedes the low odds of the state shutting down one of its biggest tourist draws.

1:57:40 That's a little extreme, yeah, draining. It, Yeah, especially since since a lot of these accidents were like negligence, you know. Unfortunately even her sons with negligence as awful as it is. No, no, no, not at all. Yeah, it only takes one on one party to be negligent. But like drowning or draining it like it's like a reservoir, like it's used to. It serves a purpose. It prevents flooding, it helps with like it's just draining. It sounds insane and it's huge. Yeah, but you know, requiring more safety stuff would be good, or you know, or something or making it like you know, like you have to get some kind of boating permit or you can get fined or something. Yeah, things like that. Yeah, but I don't know's that's a little extreme. Then again, if my son died there, I'd probably have a very different opinion.

1:58:39 Yeah. Yeah, quote, every time there's another fatality, it rehashes everything for me. She says it'll be getting better, and then I'll hear about another child, another man, another woman. I think they really should just excavate it, get all those old buildings and trees from down there. At least make an attempt, get all the buildings and trees. What what would that? Maybe she thinks it's haunted or cursed. I think I think I feel I feel bad, same as but I think she just needs to see therapists. Basically, it's very possible. Yeah. Less than a year after Kyle's death, Governor George's Governor Nathan Dial signed the Kyle Glover Boat Education Law, mandating Georgians born after the first of January nineteen ninety eight work safe. We don't have to do it. Yeah, complete a boating safety education course and carry a boating license before operating any motorized watercraft on state waters.

1:59:38 Okay. Good. However, while it was a step toward reducing accidents, most visitors to Lake Lanier pour in from neighboring states and are only required to watch a fifteen minute safety video before they can rent a watercraft. Well, first of all, that means we're good. We're still good. But yeah, I mean I would think of fifteen minute safety video if you actually watch it in are sober, would at least tell you like jet skis don't have breaks. Yeah, yeah, And I'm not trying to be a jerk. It's just I don't know if that guy who hit her son was drunk or if he was just reckless, you know, just having fun and didn't really think. But like the excuse, I didn't know it didn't have breaks, Like I don't buy that. I mean, like I don't I don't buy that.

2:00:30 I mean I kind of buy it. But well, I guess my point would be if there were a break lever on it that just doesn't do anything. But he's on it, riding around and he's like, oh, I want to stop, Hey, where's the break. It's like your thought was when you're stopping to see if there's a break. Yeah, now, you're right, that's all I mean. But don't get me wrong, Like it'd be a horrible thing, and I'm sure he didn't in no way was malicious. It's just tragic, and I'm sure he felt like horrible and probably will feel horrible forever. Yeah, over it way worse than a four year jail sentence, just having done something like that. Yeah. Yeah, like to keep things light here on monthly spooky. Huh, I'm doing a good job.

2:01:13 At the same time, Georgia introduced another law honoring the boys who died just before him, thirteen year old Griffin Prince and his nine year old brother Jake, that lowered the legal blood oh lowered the legal blood alcohol limit for watercraft operators from point one to zero to point eight, matching the standard for it was wait, the standard was the standard was originally higher than motor vehicles when you're on water. That seems crazy, Yeah, it really does. I feel like the water is more dangerous because well, but think about it this way. If you're really drunk driving a car and you were like, I didn't hit anybody, but then you just don't think and get out of your door and die. Yeah yeah, okay, I I'm just saying, like, you know, I think it's a lot easier to pull a car into a parking spot than it is to pull up to a dock.

2:01:57 Yeah. Yeah, Although if you're drunk enough you pull the boat right into the parking space, you're just like, yeah, scraping up in there. You're like, all right, time to go to Denny's. Still, alcohol consumption remains a perennial problem at Lake Laniar, which accounted for one hundred and fifty seven combined boating under the influenced citations in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, the largest share in the state. Wow. On the day I met with Cohn, I noticed a sign on the gangway curiously leading out from the floating tiki bar back to the parking lot that said, please no open alcohol on shore shoes. Well, we're going to take a quick break and wrap up our investigation of sorts into Lake Laniar. I didn't know a lot of this.

2:02:43 It is really weird. I like the real reality aspect, you know. Yeah, but it's it is strange though it does seem like there's an awful lot of problems historically, Yeah at the lake. Yeah, So we'll talk about that right after this, and we're back wrapping up our learning experience on Lake Lanier. This is kind of an interesting wrapping up point. Quote. I've been doing this a long time, and I've had days where I've been like that was kind of close. Con says of his frequent run ins with reckless boat cruisers. It's always alcohol related. They don't think of it as the same as drunk driving. It's just what they're used to, fishing and drinking. They don't think they're gonna get caught. The odds are certainly in their favor, given that DNR only has about a dozen wardens total to patrol all fifty nine square miles of Lake Laniar.

2:03:44 Oh wow. Imagine they could drone patrol it to like see if people are like weaving and stuff. I don't know. Ultimately, it's the lake's urban legend that actually helps raise awareness of the area's inherent risks. Hmmm. Quote. I think social media has done a lot more for safety than boating education, says boh It says Goss. People respect the water now, whereas beforehand they were uninformed. I think the accident rates are trending in the right direction. In fact, there was a decline in total drowndings and bui's voting under the Influence on Lanier in twenty twenty four compared with the previous year. Oh that is good.

2:04:26 Yeah. Also, young people aren't drinking like they used to. Yeah, that that helps to drink. Alcohol consumption is just trending downward, which is funny because I told somebody that once. They were like, no way, man, people still love to get drunk. And I was like, okay, then why do you think like whiskey and stuff is all like getting small batch, more and more small batch and more and more fancy and more and more expensive. And he was like, uh because people was like yeah, it's because people aren't drinking as much of it. Yeah, so the people are into it have to pay as money, They have to get as much money out as it can. And and the reason I know that is because I collect physical media movies and stuff, and that's what happens to us. They're like, well, they make them more special, but they're more expensive because there are less of us buying them, right, And that's what I was like, Yeah, they're trending down whiskey Like it's they're trying to make it fancy and special. They're selling a story to get you to pay the price is necessary to you know, keep the whiskey thing going.

2:05:25 Yeah. Yes, so I mean to some extent, I mean, people still enjoy, you know, getting drunk a little bit or whatever. I assume, I don't know, we're the worst people to talk about this. Yeah, but I don't know what's going on. But it's definitely not as like super expected, Like people aren't turning twenty one and going eight as much anymore and stuff. It's really it's interesting, Yeah, it is not everything can be accounted for, and sillery bits of lake loar, the disembodied cries, the phantom dwelling on phantoms, dwelling on sunken houseboats, and underwater church bell that still tolls amplify the curse talk about but are not easily explained. Quote. A guy asked me one time if I believe in ghosts. Buchanan says, I said no, but I sure do believe in karma. And the reason why I say that is the land that Lanier is on has been stolen and sold three times from the Native Americans, from the black sharecroppers, and the white residents who eventually got run off by the government. That's a really good point, although you know, like everybody in Europe is like, haha, that's cute. Three times people run off, like yeah, let's talk, let's talk, you know, A thousand years BC. Quote. I'm not going to say that I believe in ghosts. I am going to say I believe in bad juju, and there's enough of it tier to go around. When I ask Goss if there's any larger meaning to extract from Atlanta, literally drinking in all of its dark water. Of this dark water,

2:06:55 if it explains the Jinx sports teams, the trippy music scene, the abominable traffic, the horny political landscape, that's a great way to put it. The horny political landscape, he said he doesn't really think about that. What he does think about is tourist's lack of awareness of what lurks beneath the surface. Quote. I don't think there's anything inherently evil about the lake. I think people make poor decisions based on their preconceived notions of what a lake is. I just thought it'd be cool to end it, like make it sound like a ghost story. Yeah. As con and I tack farther north, we pass summer Or Mound, a nine foot high archaeological site dating to the Late Woodland period that has become exposed in the prevailing drought conditions. Excavated before it was flooded by Lake Lanier, it has been linked to indigenous funeral customs and is believed to have served as a not so final resting place for a number of Cherokee elders and chiefs. I get a chick not from the nippy weather this time, Con asks if we should press on to Jackson Bridge.

2:08:06 I considered the dark energy my own young son son, expecting me to scoop him up from school after this cruise. The Atlanta friends who flinched when I said I was venturing out here and demanded in no uncertain terms that I return in one piece. I tell con not to bother, that we had covered enough ground, best not to tempt fate. Okay, I think the bridge would have been really cool to see though, but whatever, Yeah, it was a pretty cool, pretty cool, interesting piece. And it was a good reason to be like, no, I want to go home. Yeah. In reality, his feet were tired, his feet were sorry. He's like the seat in the boat's not very comfortable.

2:08:47 I'm not drunk enough or exactly, but I mean, I've always had an issue with the water. You know. I didn't learn to swim until I was over thirty because I drowned twice as a kid. I've told you that, I'm sure, yeah twice. I tell you about twice though, Yeah, yeah, okay, good. Some people they're a little shocked. When I'm like, I drowned twice, They're like what, I'm like, yep, both times were really scary. You think the second time you'd be like, oh, I know what to expect, you know, water in my lungs are gonna die probably? Yeah, No, it was. It was scary, but it made me, you know, much more afraid of the water because I remember when I first learned how to swim, I then made the decision like I can go on the water because I won't just die m And then I went kayaking, and I love kayaking. Yeah, it's like walk. It's like going for a walk, but in the water. You know, you're just like you're just you're just going around the lake or the river or whatever.

2:09:43 You're just like it's like literally Like that's why I got obsessed with it, because I'd be like, oh, I'm gonna go see what that side's like. And I was like, yeah, this is just like going on a walk, except I'm on the water. So I love kayaking. I would I should get a kayak one of these days. Yeah. I have to find somewhere to put it though, and how to transport it. This to just walk in places I don't. Know, just wait until there's a flood and then yeah, and just use it. Yeah. Well, we had that crazy big snow earlier in the year. I was like, man, I've been wanting to get a ski, a scheme or a snow machine for you know whatever for so long as it. Man, I would have been the king during that level three snow emergencies. Superne You all thought I was dumb for having this, Yeah, because because you know, OHI, in my part of Ohio, it's like maybe three days a year you could actually ride around on a skid.

2:10:30 The rest of the year, you know, there's not enough snow. So yeah, but anyway, that's Lake Linear. I love horror like scary stories about bodies of water, so that was a pretty cool one. Yeah. The history part is really interesting, the fact that it was such a turmoiled place and then it becomes, you know, a place where people hang out and have fun and get too drunk and die. Yes. Yeah, boy, howdy, Well, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be back wrapping up this month's episode talking about horror media and theaters something else I'm sure, and also Michelle will hopefully have some truly terrifying and perfect scary stories from Reddit right after this. They need to be perfect. I heard, okay, good, I tried to speak loudly, and we are back wrapping up this April twenty twenty six edition of Monthly Spooky, and there were This year has been a lot of horror movies in the theater because when I sit down for the show, I will go through my ticket stubs because I can't always remember, like what all did you see in this you know window of time? But a lot of horror movies the last few months, because this month alone I saw three horror films, brand new ones, which I think that's a good good amount for a you know, thirty day span. It's almost a week. Yeah.

2:12:03 First up, I saw the action horror film They Will Kill You. I liked it, but honestly, it was kind of forgettable. I figured it would be. I saw tons and tons of trailers for it. Oh yeah, tons of them, and I was like, be good. Well it came out right after Ready or Not. Here I come the sequel to Ready or Not and Ready or Not is like a being hunted by a bunch of people horror movie, which I didn't think helped. Yeah, and because because I remember when I saw the trailer, I was like, We've been seeing a lot of this kind of thing lately, like you know, one person versus everybody horror thing. It was fun, It had a pretty solid story. The director really must have watched Kill Bill like a hundred times because the movie was stylistically very kill Bill, okay in a fun way. I mean it looked great and it had some cool twists and turn.

2:13:00 I really enjoyed it. I really did so. But it wasn't like memorable, deeply memorable for me. But I did like it. Same thing with like the Ready or Not Here I come. I think we talked about that last month. But I liked it. But you know, it wasn't the first movie. But the first movie was perfect. So but I dug, I dug, they will kill you if you like action and horror. And it's still in theaters because it didn't do very well. I would go catch it. But then I saw the remake of Faces of Death. M hmm. Do you even know about Faces of Death? Cell or is that outside of your pay grade? I know, I know I've heard of it before.

2:13:41 We should watch it sometime. Okay, The original I mean not the not the sequel or the remake. It's mostly fake, Like almost all of it is fake. It was just sold as real. Yeah, it was the idea that it was like real death on film. So the remake they went with, this guy is killing people and recreating the fake death scenes from Faces of Death but making them real and then posting it on social media. Okay, And the woman who figures it out is somebody who works at that social media company and content moderation, because they're telling her like, there's no way this is real because it looks like it's cinematic, And it turns out the guy is like filming them super cinematic to make it seem like they're fake, which I did think was really funny.

2:14:25 I was like, that would be how to do it actually, would be like have really good lighting and multiple cameras when you're actually killing somebody, people be like that can't be real. Look at it. It looks like a movie. So but it was fun. The leading actress I thought was not the best choice to be the lead when things got really really serious, when she got like super emotional. At one point, she like screamed for her life, and I tried not to laugh because she just made like an odd face. It was just you know what I mean. And she wasn't a bad actress by any stretch. There were just moments where I was like, yeah, but it was it was really fun. It kept me on the end edge. The ending was pretty good. So yeah, Faces of Death that was a pretty cool one. And then finally, and most insane of all of them, I saw Lee Cronin's The Mummy. Oh yeah, how was that insane?

2:15:16 Yeah? It was demented and gross and disturbing. It was extremely evil Dead like, which makes sense because Lee Cronan's previous movie was Evil Dead Rise, which was actually funny. Somebody commented when I said I saw it and said, like, this guy clearly just wanted to make an Evil Dead movie. And I commented it again, you mean, but you wanted to make another Evil Dead movie. Yeah, but it's not a typical Mummy story. They really kind of turned mummy mummies into more of like almost an infectious curse instead of just like a shambling old skeleton. So it's not to me. It wasn't much of a mummy movie. Was much more like kind of just a like ancient Middle Eastern Demon story, which is cool, like like I love the imagery from that, like I love scaabs, I love like the hieroglyphics. You know that stuff is cool. So I had a good time with it. It was creepy.

2:16:13 It played up a lot of the fears we have of like letting down people we love, which is always fun in horror to make us think about that kind of stuff. Thanks Lee Cronan, who apparently was working through the death of his own mother when he made the film, and the ending was kind of like it. It seemed kind of out of nowhere. But also, to be honest, when when the ending felt like it came out of horror, I was like, well, I was just thinking, how the hell can they even end this? They made everything go so insane. So I liked it. Lee Cronan is the Mummy and people seem to really be digging it. It looks like it's doing pretty well at the box office. So yeah, I say, Lee Cronan's The Mummy was really fun. Yay.

2:16:57 So what do you got for Michelle? So? I have something I guess from from the Glitchen the Matrix reddit, So I read it that you know, I'll have to see how you feel about this. But so anyway, there's this this let's say they're a guy. I don't know what they are. This guy who normally for work gets up at six o'clock. So on the weekends, he also just wakes up at six, you know, by habit. Yeah, and normally he goes back to sleep, But for whatever reason, on this Saturday, he was like, no, I'm gonna actually get up at six and like just get stuff done. He gets up and he's like, I want to get breakfast from somewhere, So where's open? And he sees that wendy is open. Wendy's is open, so he orders through the app and he goes to the Wendy's and he picks up the food and he comes back home and he eats the food and it's very good. The next yes, yay, that was the whole thing. The next day, he's like out driving around and he passes by the Wendy's and sees that it is closed permanently and boarded up, and he's like, I was just there yesterday morning. What And he finds out that it has been closed for months, so he didn't get food from there. And also, I don't like that face that you're making. Go on, please,

2:18:27 So he's just like, what the fuck? I went to the Wendy's. And he has a receipt from the Wendy's, and he sees he can look at his like location, you know, like on Google where it says like you, here's where you were on the little thing you can see where you went on Google Maps and stuff. He was at that wendy So he didn't go to a different Wendy's. He went to that Wendy's. But it's not open and it hasn't been open, and he doesn't know what's going on. The reason I was making that face is number one, fast food restaurants are meant to be interchangeable, like physically for the most part. Yeah, if you were to show a receipt with that address on it, I guess I would I would wonder more. But but the other reason I was making that face is Wendy's is having a really hard time economically, Like there their companies struggling, Like my Wendy's that I've been going to the closest one to my house. It's been there for fifteen sixteen years.

2:19:25 It just closed. Yeah, like Wendy's has really been struggling, especially after COVID when like the pay went way up McDonald's and them all raised their wages a lot, Wendy's couldn't keep up. So I feel for Wendy's because I do think their food is superior in general, Like when they raise their prices, I was like, Eh, the burger is the better of all the burgers you can get through drive through. But then it's become really inconsistent because a lot of the locations are suffering. They're not being able to hire good people and ba da da dah. So that's why I was in that face. Mostly was just like, yeah, they're closed Wendy's all over the place. Yeah, yeah, And I could totally see my for myself, like confusing myself and be like, no, I just went there, when in reality I went to the other one.

2:20:15 Yeah. I mean, and I would believe that too. But he does have a receipt from that address Wendy's, Yeah, and he it does show that that's the Wendy's that he went to that he traveled to, So I don't really know what to make of that. Also, I will say in my area, I know where one Wendy's is like, I don't. I don't have another Wendy's. I could confuse with that Wendy's. See, I have like, even though the Wendy's closest to me is gone, there's another one just like another half a mile or mile away. Yeah, I just have the one, so. Or so you think. Actually I know exactly where your Wendy's is because it's all the way when I drive, when I leave or come or arrive to your area, I see the Wendy's. Wendy's. Yeah it worked. They check Wendy's. Yeah, I could. That one would throw me because I like, honestly I couldn't. I could see it happening to me.

2:21:15 Not with the receipt and everything, but I could see being like, wasn't I just there? Like like and then coming home and seeing like a Wendy's cup and be like, dude, I was, I was there yesterday. Right. The other The other problem is, too, is being like, uh, I was just there, wasn't I? And in reality it's like, no, that was seven days ago, yesterday you were at the different one. Yeah. That's the other thing, because like the because you know, if they're doing their job right, then the experience is identical. That's like the whole goal. Yeah. Once again, it's it would have to be dependent on the area because again, like I couldn't go to a different Wendy's. I just go to the Wendy's.

2:21:58 So now I'm wondering if there's another Wendy there's. Probably like fifty, but I just know about one. You open your front door and the house across the street is a Wendy's. Yeah, huh, that's queer. And and I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying, like if you have evidence to back it up, because then you looked at it and like that's where he went. I don't know what that means except that it maybe it's not a true story at all. I mean I think at you know, at best, he's either you know, easily like got confused from the whole thing and it's really creepy, or at worst, he's a liar or at even better alternate universe.

2:22:40 Yeah yeah, yeah, where. That Wendy's is open. And sometimes notice, do you know anything else weird? Like all the people were apes or anything. He didn't say that, but he might have. Okay, Well, that's good. To know at least. Yeah, all right, well I think that was a pretty good one. Shell. Thanks you did good. You did good today. Thank you. Also, I'm just really hungry and now I want Wendy, so well, thank you Chel for that one, and thank you to Wendy's for hopefully paying us for that. Yes, but uh well, I guess we're gonna get out of here. So I really do appreciate you guys all listening to Monthly Spooky. Will of course be back next month on the last Monday, to bring you all the spooky news you need to know and some topic I'll think of right before we record. Usually in the shower before we record is when I figure out the topic. So but remember, if you love what we're doing here and you want to support us in a very direct way, go to Weekly Spooky dot Com slash join and sign up for our Patreon for as little as one dollar a month.

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