Monthly Spooky | Feeding Friends to Bigfoot, Lake Monsters, and Eating Bugs!

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A man defends himself from his best
friend feeding him to Bigfoot. Large bodies

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of water often hide big secrets,
and I break down all kinds of great

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horror films in the theater for you
to check out. Get comfortable, turn

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off the lights. It's Monthly Spooky. Well, hello, and welcome everyone

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to Monthly Spooky. I am,
of course, your host Enrique Kuto here

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with my good buddy and co host
Michelle Antisocial. Michelle, how are you?

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Oh, no permission to speak freely, not granted. You have to

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pretend you're doing amazing. I just
pretended I just went away for a little

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while, or my microphone cut out, But I said the thing that you

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wanted me to say. Well,
I appreciate you showing up anyway, even

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if in reality you're you're in the
depths of misery, deep depths of true

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misery. You're welcome. Well,
I'm looking forward to sitting down with you.

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For those who are new to Monthly
Spooky, Chella and I sit down

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and we watch or we read spooky
news stories, We talk about a spooky

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topic and just kind of have a
kind of have some fun to wrap up

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the month. And I have to
be honest this was not a fun month

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for me. Well, I lost
my dog, hen Wolf, my other

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dog, and why are you smiling? I know, I was just like

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this month. If it was,
well, I'll be honest, if it

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wasn't this month, I don't remember
the month before. Yeah, so it

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was it was probably this month,
or it was right at the end of

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March. Maybe, yeah, I
don't know. I don't know anymore.

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Yeah, No, I mean,
I mean, I've been to be you

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know, one hundred percent, I've
been. I've been grieving pretty hard.

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And I know right now I'm like
ha ha and a smile. It's really

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because I'm sitting with my buddy and
talking and it feels nice to hang out

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with you cell. But no,
but it's been a hard month, and

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people have been really great about,
you know, checking on me and offering

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words of encouragement. It's just just
just hard. You know. I adopted

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both of my dogs and when they
were already considered seniors. So you know,

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I consider myself very fortunate. I
got I got almost five years with

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Chicano and I got almost seven years
with Henwolf. Wow. Yeah, And

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they were both roughly the same age
that were probably thirteen when they passed.

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So I've just kind of been just
been kind of dealing with that, and

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it's a lot of feelings I didn't
expect. I don't know what I expected

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when Chicano passed. I didn't really. I don't think I realized how much

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it helped to have Henwolf around.
Sure, even though she was not well,

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I was, you know, I
was having to help her walk and

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and you know stuff, help her, you know, go to the bathroom

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and stuff. She was my my
baby girl. And yeah, so when

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he passed, I just all I
wanted to do was spend time with her.

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And then when she passed, I
realized I was just completely lost.

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Yeah, just had no clue what
to do. So it's been a hard

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month, it really has. And
uh, well, you just made a

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squinty eye at me. What did
I do? I don't think I did,

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actually totally did. I'm gonna start
recording the the video feed of the

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show just so I can keep you
from gaslighting me. Okay, I feel

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like I'm gonna look away, and
then when I look back, You're gonna

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be like doing the like threat slow
the throat slit with your finger, and

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I'm like, what are you doing? Like I don't know what you mean.

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Nothing. Yeah, I'm doing but
I don't want to make this whole

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show just about losing my dog.
But I did want to mention it because

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it is important, and it is
it is something that's been really on my

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mind, and and I've been very
thankful for the show because it's given me

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something to do. I thought that
I would want a break from the show,

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but it turns out that it's a
it's a perfect distraction from everything.

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Yeah, so yeah, which makes
sense. I mean, most of what

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we do here at Weekly Spooky,
or what I do here at Weekly Spooky

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is sit in the dark room and
read out loud. You know. Obviously

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we do shows like this, we
do shows like Cutting Deep into Horror,

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where it's a more of a talk
show format, but overall, you know,

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Monday and Wednesday is almost exclusively you
know, things that are scripted.

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So it became very easy to kind
of get my mind out of where I

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was. So and and just I
cannot tell you between people writing me on

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Patreon, the Patreon backers that I
appreciate so much, I've gotten emails,

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I've gotten Facebook messages from people just
saying, you know, we're sorry,

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about you losing your dog. And
also I appreciate that a lot of people

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were just kind of startled because I
just lost Two months earlier, i'd lost

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Chicano. So I was appreciative of
the people who just reached out. We're

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like, I'm so sorry, Like
that must be really hard, and I'm

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like, yeah, it is,
and I appreciate being seen and heard.

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It makes a difference anyway. I
don't know, I don't know how.

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I mean, there's not really that
much more to say. I talked about

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both of them quite a bit on
the main show because that was the one

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thing I did want to do is
I just didn't do the Usually we have

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a format at Weekly Spooky. You
know, there's the teas, then the

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intro, then the the intro video
or music, and then I talk my

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talking intro, the story, the
outro. That's it. You know,

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it's very simple, but once you
have that down, it makes the show

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smooth. And when Chicano passed and
when Hemulf passed, I was like,

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I'm not going to do the normals. I'm just gonna talk about them and

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then go to the story and then
talk about them some more and go to

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the story, which I felt,
which felt felt helped me. I think

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so a lot of people already know
the stories. But I will say,

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you know, especially now that I've
had a little bit of time, I

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have zero regret that I adopted those
old dogs. Yeah, they were amazing,

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So I just miss them so much. Yeah, Like, it is

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so weird recording in here without hen
Will laying right next to me. And

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I remember because, like especially with
this show, because you know, we

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sit and talk for two hours.
There have been so many times that hen

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Wolf would be asleep, especially the
last year or so, that she'd be

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asleep in the living room. So
I would just close the office door,

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you know, to block out sound, and then halfway through recording, she

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would just thumb her head right into
the door and push it open. It

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doesn't the door doesn't latch very well, so she I'd have to you have

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to, Like it's one of those
where you have to push until you hear

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it click right right, you know, And I don't you do that because

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I just need the sound blocked right, But yeah, so I hear a

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thud and then the door would just
open. And she's also done that in

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the middle of me recording scary stories
and it would scare the ever loving shit

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out of me. Yeah. She
also a couple of times sneezed during scary

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stories and scared the hell out of
me. So I do want to say

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that. That's the other thing is
like the dogs were very much like a

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silent part of weekly spooky for me. Yeah. I would say about fifty

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percent of the time I recorded,
Chikano was under my desk on my feet,

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and but about ninety percent or more
of the time hen Wolf was laying

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to the side of my chair,
not just when I record, anytime I

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was in my office at all,
just if I was working, hen Wolf

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was right there. That was just
her. You know, she's a hyper

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loyal, hyper protective dog. Yeah, so I miss her, and I

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wanted to just talk about that a
little bit. And I'm not crying somehow,

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So that's a win. Yeah,
I guess it means all those queludes

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are working there you go. But
anyway, that being said, we have

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quite a show. We have a
whole lot of spooky news, and tonight's

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topic and I think you'll like this
one, Michelle. Yeah, we're going

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to talk about Champy Okay, the
Lake Champlain Monster. Yeah, I thought

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you'd like that. I feel like
you're the kind of person who likes CHAMPI

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the champis okay, I just like
he is a fun name. Well,

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I mean that's my favorite part of
Champion is those hes CHAMPI although, yeah,

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I got annoyed because when I was
looking up info about him, U

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it said Champ. It just kept
calling him Champ and I was like,

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no, it's Champy. Yeah,
you should edit the Wikipedia so I should.

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Well, it says Champ or Champion
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top of it says Champ. Yeah. I don't think people call him Champ

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because my my sister went to university
uh in Burlington, Vermont, so and

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I know that she calls him Champy. So I'm pretty sure she's right.

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Damn right. I appreciate Look at
you standing up for your family. I

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guess. Yeah, Well, we're
gonna be talking all about Champy in just

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a little bit. I did try
to look into there's a there's a lake

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monster near where you live. It's
that uh called like ray Town ray or

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something like that. Where the hell's
that it's in like near It's like and

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not quite Nepa. Really yeah,
but it but it's it's a smaller legend,

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Like I wanted to cover that,
but it was like the Wikipedia and

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stuff was barely like it wouldn't it
would have taken like six minutes to read

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it. M hm. So I
was Champy because CHAMPI has a lot of

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history. Yeah. So, but
we'll be diving deep into Champy after we

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get to our spooky news, which
reminds me, we're going to go to

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a break and when we get back, we'll be talking all about the spooky

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news. Right after this and we
are back, Michelle, do you want

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to do it? Because I try
to let you do it every now and

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then. But that's okay because I
know you like to do it. I'm

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I mean, it's your favorite.
It is kind of my favorite part of

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the show. But that's why I
share it. No, it's okay because

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it's it's not my favorite, so
you can do it. Oh that's what,

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Now my favorite's not good enough?
I mean, yeah, that's fair.

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It's time for the spooky news.
The spooky news. This one I

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actually found in the wild, Like
it just popped up in my social media

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feed. I didn't even have to
hunt this one down. This one you

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might have seen it going around.
It's from the New York Post. It's

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a The headline is Oklahoma fisherman found
guilty of murdering Powell he thought planned to

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feed him to Bigfoot. Wow,
I haven't heard of that. How how

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could you forget if you had?
Right? Yeah? So, and and

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speaking of this is a great place
for a plug. I do have a

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but yeah, so Bigfoot Ohio.
Check it out on two B t ub

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I too B. All right,
So this this article is also like height

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of journalism. It was a fishy
story which became a hairy tail. Ah

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you like that? Not really,
but I appreciate that they're trying. And

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Oklahoma fisherman choked his friend to death
because he bizarrely you what, you didn't

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think it was gonna be that brutal? Yeah, I don't know, like

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shot him or some saying that he
was like, oh, I guess you

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weren't. No, he choked him
out, and he choked him to death.

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Yeah yeah, Because I mean the
headline is he killed his friend,

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he murdered him. Yeah yeah.
And Oklahoma fisherman choked his friend to death

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because he bizarrely believed he planned to
feed him to Bigfoot. A judge ruled

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Wednesday. Quote, Yes, there
was a monster in the woods that night,

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but it wasn't Bigfoot. It was
Larry Sanders. Well, and his

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name's Larry Sanders. That was a
that was a fictional character on an HBO

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late night talk show. It's called
Larry Sanders Show. So that's even more

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bizarre. But uh do you like
that? That's the argument, the district

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attorney, Eric Johnson said after Sanders
was found guilty of first degree murder at

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the Potata pot Ta Talk pond Tak
Talk County District Court. It's p O

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N t O t O C.
Yeah, see what I mean, ponta

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talk County District Court. So would
you let me ask you, Chelle,

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if you were out on a hunting
trip or something a fishing trip. This

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was a fishing trip, and first
of all, what would it take for

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you to start to suspect that you
were going to be fed to Bigfoot by

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your friend. Like, if you
and I we were out on a fishing

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trip, what would it take for
you to believe? Like, wait a

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second, he's planning to feed me
to Bigfoot. I guess first I'd have

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to believe in Bigfoot. Okay,
that's step one. Okay, So assuming

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I believed, I believe in Bigfoot, and maybe like you, you had

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this phone call and you were just
like, hey, Bigfoot, I'm gonna

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feed me Michelle. And I was
like what and you were like, oh,

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nothing, I'm just talking about now
that Michelle, I'm gonna feed the

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Bigfoot. I think the best part
of that call is that it's like,

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hey, Bigfoot, I'm gonna feed
Michelle to you, Like I'm gonna feed

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Michelle to you, is still out
loud for everyone to hear. That's the

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best part. Yeah. No,
let's set the scene. Okay, you

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and I are in a fishing boat
and I'm okay, and you're you and

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I'm me and I'm just we're just
holding our fishing rods out in the water.

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Would you want a fish or would
you consider it too cruel? Because

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you fish? Okay, so you
have a hook in the water, but

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you didn't bait it. What about
if I just have a net and sometimes

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I catch the fish and I just
put them right back. You like,

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catch them and you go you're beautiful
and the okay, okay. So you're

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standing there with a net kind of
moving through there and uh and I'm like,

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hey, be careful, don't want
you fallen in that water. You

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know, Bigfoot doesn't like soggy meals. Yeah, and I just laugh because

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I'm so kooky. I have a
spooky podcast, ring ring ring. Hello.

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Oh hi, yeah, Michelle,
Michelle will be ready for you to

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eat alive. Yeah. Wait,
huh what what wait Michelle on Michelle,

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I'm on the phone. Okay,
sorry, sorry, thank you. Oh

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yeah, yeah, she won't put
up a fight. Yeah, like one

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hundred and ten pounds tops. All
right, all right, bye? Sorry

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what we said? Who is what? Who were you just talking to?

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Oh that's one of those robo calls
your car's extended warranty things. It sounded

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like you wanted to feed me to
Bigfoot. Why what would make you think

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that I was trying to feed you
to Bigfoot? Because that's what you said

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on the phone. I think that's
a little bit of a stretch. Didn't

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you say that I wouldn't put up
a fight, And I mean, would

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you put up a fight? Would
you put up a fight? Yeah?

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I think I would. You I
don't. I'm really confused. So now

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you're saying, Now you're saying I
lie to Bigfoot big Yeah, yeah,

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because I would put up a fight. So maybe he needs to know that.

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Maybe you need to call him back
and set the record straight so he

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knows what to expect when he tries
to eat me. All right, hold

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on and chill. Well, I'm
well, I'm calling back. Would you

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just apply this lotion? No?
I don't. It's actually it's crisco.

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It'll keep you it'll keep you from
burning. No, I don't like the

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way that stuff feels on my skin. So no, I didn't even wear

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us onscreen. Hey, no,
she won't put the stuff on. I

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know. How do you get her
to be crispy? And I know we

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both saw this coming? All right, okay you too? Bye? Wait

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what did he tell you that was
funny? I don't think that's really prudent

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to our conversation. But you didn't
tell him that I was going to fight,

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because you're not. We both know
you're not well I am. And

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also I don't believe in Bigfoot,
so I'm really confused. He hates that.

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He hates when people don't believe in
him. Well, maybe he needs

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to come here and we can have
we can like do that thing where you

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put your fists up and then you
do like hit each other, duke it

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out. Yeah, that one.
I'll call him in a minute. But

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my reception isn't very good. I
thought it's okay. Well, I mean

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I wasn't on the phone some of
your Yeah, it was cutting out a

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bit. Luckily Bigfoot has really strong
diction. Oh okay, so I believe

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you. So I assume that that. But then then you start strangling me

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would be probably that would be about
the point. No, I would just

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knock you into the water and I
take the boat. That's cruol because you

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know I am a weak swimmer.
M yeah, and I and that you're

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The fishes are probably angry at you
because you've been trying to get him.

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No, they like it so sure. So the fifty five year old had

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been fishing for catfish by hand.
Oh they were noodling yay, okay,

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had been fishing for catfish by hand. With his high school buddy Jimmy Knight

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in fifty two. I would totally
do that instead of the thing, if

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you would go noodling. Noodling can
be dangerous, don't They just come and

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bite on your fingers and sometimes they
can hurt you. Well, I deserve

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it. I'm trying to kill them, so we might as well make this

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a little bit violent. Okay,
fair fair. In July of twenty twenty

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two, when he claims to have
whoa, whoa why that escalated quickly he

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said, okay, so they were
catfishing by hand with his buddy Jimmy.

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In July of twenty twenty two,
when he claims to have spotted a twelve

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foot tall sasquatch tromping around downstream.
Ow so this was they witnessed Bigfoot,

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okay, and then I guess his
next thought was like, and you're trying

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to feed me to him, which
is you know not at all? Pair

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Well, I mean I would think
if you saw Bigfoot and then your next

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thought was you're trying to feed me
to him? It might be because the

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person said, hey, Bigfoot,
look what I brought you. This guy

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you can eat he's delicious. Guys, taste me. I'm delicious. Uh.

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The friends got into an argument over
a fish swimming in the South Canadian

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River, roughly one hundred miles southeast
of Oklahoma City. When Knighton shouted,

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Sanders thought he was summoning the mythical
ape to come and eat him. You're

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right, knight And started shouting,
and Sanders thought he was summoning the mythical

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ape to come eat him. See. I mean, I if my friend

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was trying to get Bigfoot to you
know, eat me. Yeah, sometime

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here foot. Yeah. During during
the wild trial, Sanders told the court

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he suspected knight and was planning on
drown him and floating his body downstream to

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feed Bigfoot. The outlet reported a
brawl between the men broke out, and

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Sanders grabbed his pal by the throat
and strangled him until he turned blue and

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died. He confessed to cops.
Wow. Sanders told beliefs he kept Nighting

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in a choke hold until he stopped
breathing while a tribe of Bigfoot watched.

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Why didn't they intervene? I that's
really I mean, that is messed up.

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Yeah, those big Feet should have
done something. Well, I mean,

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I guess when you see animals fighting
each other like wild animals, maybe

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you you're not supposed to like it. That's only if you're under contract from

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National Geographic. Oh well then it's
your job to just like take pictures of

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the brutality of nature. But you
don't know what the big feet were doing.

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That's well, apparently they were waiting
for a free meal. I don't

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think so, because they were just
watching this guy get strangled. So it

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sounds like they were reporters from National
Geographic and they were just watching. Well,

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I don't understand. Is I mean, did they eat his friend's body

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then, because they were clearly hungry? No? Right, well no,

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because we know no, Oh my
god, it gets sillier. This is

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based on his testimony or this is
reporting his testimony. Sanders told police he

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kept Night in a choke hold until
he stop breathing while tribe Bigfoot watch.

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Justin Brown, a special agent with
the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation, testified

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during the trial. Sanders claimed he
then raised his hands in victory to show

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the upright walking apes he'd won the
fight. The agent said, wow,

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I hope they mentioned that like methanphetamine
was involved or something. Because this is

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this is so insane for there not
to be like serious drugs. Yeah quote.

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Larry claimed that while at the river, he discovered Jimmy intended to feed

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him to Sasquatch slash Bigfoot. Sanders
told the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation Larry

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and Jimmy fought for an extended amount
of time on the ground. Larry confirmed

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he killed Jimmy by choking him to
death near the river. To win a

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first degree murder conviction in Oklahoma,
prosecutors must prove malice a forethought, meaning

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the killer must have intent, must
have had the intent to cause death,

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Johnson, said Sanders lawyers. Sanders'
lawyers have insisted that he was simply trying

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to take control of the situation in
a heated moment, but didn't mean to

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kill his friend. That's why he
raised his arms victory. His attorneys had

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previously planned to use an insanity defense, but scraped the claim after Sanders was

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shown to understand right from wrong.
Oh sorry. The first degree murder conviction

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was handed down by Judge Steve Kessinger, and Sanders now faces a life in

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prison without parole. His sentencing hearing
will be June eighteenth. So there's two

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possibilities here. Either he's insane,
right and he really should just be somewhere

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where he can't hurt other people,
or this all really happened and he is

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He just fucking saved himself from being
eaten by big feet, and like,

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I feel terrible for him. I
will say, I feel bad saying this,

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but he kind of I'll show you
a picture of him. He kind

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of looks like he could be a
tweaker. Yeah, but he could also

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just be like real old and not
taking care of himself very well. Yeah,

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but he kind of looks like a
tweaker. That's the part that I'm

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confused by. There's no reference to
drugs. Yeah, no reference. Although

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also look at his buddy. He
was good at noodle and look at that

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big catfish. I can't say anything. Oh really yeah, Oh I'm sorry.

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I thought, oh I thought it's
not working right now. That's okay,

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we'll pretend. Wow, glad you're
enjoying it. So there's just a

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photo of his buddy, and he's
just got a catfish that's probably two and

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a half feet long. Wow,
like very very big. So uh yeah,

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I am surprised. There's no reference
to drugs, no reference to alcohol.

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You'd think that they're at least drunk. What a story? What a

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story? Hey, yeah, yeah, Well we're gonna take a quick break

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and we'll be back with even more
spooky news. We are back with even

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more spooky news, Michelle. Yeah, and somehow you are still not bigfoot

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food. I'm proud of you.
Thanks. I'm pretty good at fighting.

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I have been proven wrong. But
this next story somehow is even more grizzly

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in some ways. Really, this
one's from you want to guess Tomri dot

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co dot UK. Eh, that
is correct, this one. The headline

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is woman twenty two found drained of
blood in abandoned church as local spot people

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dressed as vampires? Are we sure? I guess we'll find out. But

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like you know, like I've done
enough research about chupicabra to know that sometimes

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people think things are drained of blood
and they're not really drained of blood.

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So I mean, you're that's fair. A twenty two year old woman who

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was found with the blood drained from
her body in an abandoned church had been

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quote looking for a haunted house containing
ghosts before she died. Oh Ariane Nathalie

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Lazine, oh from France, of
course, and a male friend. Wow,

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that's when that's the that's the worst, like is when you don't even

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get named. Oh yeah, that
used to be a joke. Pendulette used

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to tell is that, like if
he was ever on an airplane and they

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were getting turbulence and there was another
celebrity on the plane, he would start

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making conversation with him and just be
like, so, you know, are

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you still on a Broadway? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, cool?

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And uh you know, how's that
going? How did that movie redo?

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And oh and he'd be like,
yeah, it looks like this is

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gonna be Pendulette and twelve others die
in plane. Crack and a male friend

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were seen in the days before her
death quote dressed like vampires. Oh so

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they were dressed like vampires, Oh
okay, which probably means like gothy with

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frilly fluffy shirts or something. Yeah, I mean, or or if they

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want to do like Buffy the Vampire
Slayer like TV style, maybe they had

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all this like makeup on their face, the ridge and the rich foreheads.

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Yeah were you a Buffy fan?
Yeah? Really? Yeah? I thought

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you knew that. I I as
you're as we're talking about it, I

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think I did. I have nothing
against Buffy. I loved the movie,

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the really cheesy movie from the nineties, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. That's kind

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of my favorite. Yeah. Sorry, sorry, sorry, Oh, I

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was just say I've never really watched
the TV series, but I understand why

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it's so popular. Yeah. I
was gonna say, I don't think you've

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watched any of this the series.
No, Yeah, but I but I'm

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not, like I try not to
be a snob about it, like it

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just when it was happening. It
wasn't really I wasn't in the demographic and

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I was like a young teenage boy, and I think it was mostly for

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young teenage girls. Are there's nothing
wrong with that. I mean, that's

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overall who it was marketed to.
Yeah. So, uh. Police have

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said they thought that she may have
been attempting to carry out a TikTok stunt

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as part of a ghost hunting competition
currently underway in France on the social media

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platform Okay, where you drain yourself
with blood. That's a hell of a

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challenge. I mean, you know, if you're gonna win, if you

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you might as well win if you're
gonna win, you know. Yeah.

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The other working theory investigators in the
Osta Valley village of Lacel are reportedly looking

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into is that it was quote consented
murder or sacrifice. Okay, Europe has,

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I feel like more than America.
Europe has a lot of examples of

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people like writing contracts saying like I
allow this person to kill me and eat

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me or whatever. And then the
well that happened in Germany there was a

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guy who met a guy on the
internet, and the guy like signed a

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consent like a contract saying like I'm
okay with him drugging me, killing me

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and eating my flesh. Wow.
And then of course the police had to

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very slowly explain like no, after
it happened, they were like, yeah,

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you're going to prison. Yeah,
that doesn't work like that. Sorry,

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yeah, I remember the story correctly, Like he agreed to it,

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and then he just fed him like
a shitload of cough medicine, like just

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a shitload of cough medicine until he
passed out, and then he killed him

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and ate him. Okay, Germany
man gotta love him. So in a

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police interview, a witness described,
oh wait, sorry, I went ahead

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a little bit. Her decomposing body
was found by a hiker on April sixth

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at the Concentrated Concentrated Church in northern
Italy, Aosta Valley. She had been

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drained of blood and it is believed
she had been dead for several days.

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In a police interview, a witness
described the young woman in the days before

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her death, describing her as pale
and emaciated, and the man had dark

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hair and olive skin. Oh,
I see where we're going. Yeah.

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You people always go after a swarthy
bastards. The second some white lady he

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dies, it's immediately like but where
were the Mediterranean men in all of this?

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I guess? The witness told police
investigators that she looked like, quote,

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a walking corpse. Medical examiner Roberto
Testy said the young woman had been

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stabbed with what investigators say was a
camping knife and had bled to death.

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Okay, so okay, so they
have a reason to believe that she's bled

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a ton of blood. Okay.
She had multiple stab wounds in the neck

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and abdomen, as well as gunshots
to her neck and body. Oh god,

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that's quite a quite a killing.
There were no signs of a struggle,

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police said. Police said the shots
could have been inflicted after she died.

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Why that is the well, I
mean, I think why is the

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question in any part of this story? Yeah, I guess some of the

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blood at the scene had been reportedly
had reportedly scraped off the floor and removed.

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But oh I understand now, yeah, yeah, that that I can

405
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.279
see where they're coming from. Now, like if they were like it's clear

406
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.559
that blood had pulled and somebody had
like scraped it up and gathered it up

407
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.240
to drink it or cleaned it up. However you want to look at it.

408
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:25.240
Yeah, some The young man who
had been seen with her was tracked

409
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:30.480
down to Lion in France or Leon
in France on Wednesday night. The twenty

410
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:37.400
one year old Italian man Tiama Sohaib
was arrested on suspicion of murder and is

411
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:42.880
now awaiting trial in the French city
of Grinobel. Lasagne was found. A

412
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:47.720
packet was found. A packet of
pink marshmallows was found with it. It

413
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:52.799
doesn't copywriters mirrored dot UK you have
none was found with a packet of pink

414
00:31:52.799 --> 00:32:00.599
marshmallows and groceries near her body.
Oh sounds like they were going on like

415
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.119
a camping trip or something, then
I mean if they had like groceries and

416
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:08.599
they were in the middle of like
nowhere at a desecrated church. The crime

417
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:13.079
scene was soaked in blood and she
had been wearing legans, a jumper and

418
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:17.519
dark coat. According to police,
Lazaine is from Saint San Pries, a

419
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.319
town near lyone while so he is
said to be from the March region of

420
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:30.880
Italy, but he had been living
in Grenoble in vald Valds ser southeastern France.

421
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.640
Police stated that her death could be
related to a hunting competition on TikTok,

422
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:43.599
which is currently popular among young people
in France. Yeah, so,

423
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:45.519
what do you think you think it
was TikTok? No? I think that

424
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:50.720
the guy is a vampire, and
I thought the world was a vampire.

425
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.680
Every time I hear that song,
I hear it as the world is a

426
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:05.400
ca empire. Do you I don't
know why, but no, so this

427
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:08.240
does kind of sound like it might
just be a twisted murder. Yeah.

428
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:15.480
No, I think he's a vampire
and she wanted him to kill her to

429
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:21.440
make her a vampire. Yeah,
change me in twilet right, and then

430
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.039
because he didn't know how, So
he just kept trying to kill her more

431
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:27.319
and then he was just like,
I guess I'll just drink the blood and

432
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.960
that was it and shoot you multiple
times after Maybe this will work. Geez

433
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:36.000
No, Like it makes me think
of Twilight because she would constantly Edward change

434
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:37.680
me. Edward changed me, and
it always made me laugh because every time

435
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:42.799
said, I just imagined she was
talking about a diaper. I want you

436
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.039
to change me, And it's like, for God's sake, you're you're twenty

437
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.759
three, Like learn how to use
a toilet. Yeah, you can change

438
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.359
yourself. No, that's I mean, that's pretty twisted. But to me,

439
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:57.920
it just sounds like a murder.
But it is interesting that there was

440
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.119
no struggle. That does raise a
lot of questions. Yeah, I mean

441
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:08.800
she was so thinged, stabbed and
shot so many times. I mean,

442
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.000
are we really sure that there wasn't
a struggle, you know, Like,

443
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:20.519
I mean that is a good question. I don't know. Yeah, we

444
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.320
should get over there and check out
the body and then we can make a

445
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:27.599
decision. Yeah, yeah, let's
do it, okay. Is that what

446
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.159
that's that's where the show's heading is
to just doing gofundmes, to like send

447
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:36.199
us to Italy so we can investigate
a crime. Yeah, let's do it.

448
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.079
I don't really speak Italian, though, so it might be hard.

449
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.599
Well, it's like it's like you
saw inglorious bastards. No. Oh,

450
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.880
there's there's a whole scene where they're
they're pretending to be Italians. The American

451
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:52.119
officers are pretending to be Italians.
And he's like, all right, I

452
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.800
speak Italian, you speak Italian or
you I speak Italian, you speak second

453
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.280
most Italian, you speak third most
Italian. He's like, I don't speak

454
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:05.880
any Italian. It's like third most
Italian always, you speak third most Italian.

455
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.599
Okay, well, here's a lighter
story. Okay, after we had

456
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:15.719
some really dark stories. I loved
your reaction to the guy strangling him to

457
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:16.760
death. You were just like,
oh my god, as if it was

458
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:22.239
gonna be like a nicer murder.
Yeah. You know. Well, this

459
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.760
article is from the Huffington Post and
it says you read that right. Florida

460
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:32.159
officials nap run away kangaroo Yay.
I guess what what? What are you

461
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.840
on the side of the kangaroos?
Oh? I mean, I don't think

462
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.639
they should be in Florida, but
I also want them to be free.

463
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.880
Well maybe they like the weather.
A lot of people like the weather in

464
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:50.440
Florida. Yeah, I guess that's
that's true. Tampa, Florida Awayward kangaroo

465
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:54.280
was corralled safely by sheriff's deputies Thursday
after it was spotted hopping around the pool

466
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:58.800
area of a Florida apartment complex.
It's probably thinking about if it wanted to

467
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.639
move in. Yeah, pools all
right. It probably had the little strips

468
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:05.719
that was testing the chlorine. It
was like, do they actually maintain this

469
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.440
pool? Yeah? And that's why
they arrested him, because he was gonna

470
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:14.559
be a whistleblower and you know,
exposed to place. Oh this is getting

471
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:21.079
deep. This you don't know how
high up this goes. The Hillsboro County

472
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.519
Sheriff's Office released video and still photos
of the kangaroo, including some footage shot

473
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:29.639
from a helicopter. The agency also
released audio of a female resident of the

474
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:34.039
complex calling in to report it.
Quote, I actually see a kangaroo.

475
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.840
It's kind of a large kangaroo.
The unidentified woman says. We got him

476
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.639
closed in the poolgate area. That
I feel like that's exactly how the call

477
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:46.119
would go if I was making it. Yeah, I'm actually seeing a kangaroo

478
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:50.760
right now, Like it's like,
this is not to be confused. This

479
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:55.639
is a kangaroo. I am positive. Deputies were able to figure out the

480
00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:00.320
animal's owner and reunite them after checking
for its proper regis stration. The agency

481
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:05.559
said in a Facebook post. No
injuries to the kangaroo or any people or

482
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:09.000
reported. Yay, I guess so
that's a little bit of a happier story.

483
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:14.440
Yeah. If you think kangaroos being
kept in captivity in Florida is happy,

484
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:17.000
well, first of all, considering
kangaroos can fist fight you, you

485
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:22.320
got you gotta be careful with them. So do you ever see how buff

486
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:27.199
kangaroos look like when they like flex
their their their arms. I don't know.

487
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.679
They're terrifying and they'll fight you like
they'll punch it. Well, you

488
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:37.679
deserved it, always, I think. So. I watched this video the

489
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:42.599
other day that was Australian fail compilation. It was like weird things happening in

490
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.199
Australia, And there was a part
where a kangaroo was standing in the in

491
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:49.880
like this shallow part of a pond, and it had its hands on the

492
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:53.840
guy's dog like it was just holding
it, like holding it there kind of

493
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:58.559
threateningly, and literally the Australian guy
just walks up to it and goes he

494
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:00.960
like, oh my dog, right
now, let go of him. And

495
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.880
then he's like like has his fistizes
like I'll punch you right in the head,

496
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.800
and he's like he's talking to it
like it was a guy. It's

497
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:12.679
just it's just a funny, Like
it's just there are so few animals in

498
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.559
this life that when it's time to
like get that to fight them, you

499
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:20.320
square up. Yeah, you're gonna
fight with them. It's just like the

500
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.800
way he's like, I'll knock your
block off, you know. Just I

501
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:24.639
don't know why, but that just
stuck with me. But yeah, it

502
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:30.840
was literally just like holding the dog
in place, probably trying to you know,

503
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:32.960
not hurt necessarily hurt it, but
defend itself from it or something.

504
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.800
But the dog is just sitting there
like, uh, what's going on here?

505
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.199
Why are you? And the kangaroos
like, oh, don't worry about

506
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:45.840
it, bro so. But kangaroos, man, you gotta be careful,

507
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:51.000
That's all I'm saying. What do
you think we shouldn't be careful with kangaroos.

508
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:52.519
You're like, no, let them
do what they want. Pretty much.

509
00:38:53.719 --> 00:39:00.199
I didn't realize you were a kangaroo
apologist. Sorry when did that start?

510
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:04.400
Like, was it after you saw
crocodile Dundee as a kid or something?

511
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:10.079
Yeah, and then I read all
the research about kangaroos. Wow,

512
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:22.039
they in the wild, and and
they're manifestos, and then you know they're

513
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:28.280
manifestos. Yeah, oh boy.
Yeah it sounds like you got, you

514
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:32.239
got, you got turned into an
extremist. Yeah. They're really interesting though,

515
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:40.079
the manifestos. So oh yeah,
what was your favorite excerpt? There's

516
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:45.079
so many and I can't say them
on the air. Oh dear, Well,

517
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:51.079
Michelle's been radicalized, so at least
there's that. Well we'll be back

518
00:39:51.119 --> 00:40:02.639
with more spooky news right after this. And we are back with not only

519
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:07.480
spooky news, but now we're gonna
get kind of depressing and philosophical. Yay.

520
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:15.039
Another story from Mirror dot co dot
UK. This story says hospice nurse

521
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:22.559
shares the one thing quote almost everybody
sees just before they die. Yay you

522
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:27.079
okay, you look terrified. Oh. I all of a sudden, I

523
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.800
just touched my screen and I opened
up a completely different browser and I couldn't

524
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:35.440
get it to close. I thought
that might have been what happened. Yeah,

525
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:42.159
so you ready to talk about death
shell? Sure? Yay again?

526
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:49.000
Yeah, well before we were talking
about murder. Now we're just talking about

527
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.159
death. Oh no, it's just
it might as well. It's it's always

528
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.840
on my brain. Might as well
talk about it. Yay. You think

529
00:40:54.840 --> 00:41:00.719
about death a lot? Yeah,
yay. There's a song a band that

530
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.239
I kind of like, and it's
just like the course, it won't hurt

531
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:09.559
anything. I can't remember what their
name is. Very good. Ah,

532
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:15.599
you must really like them there.
Yeah, and the like course or one

533
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:20.199
of the repeating phrases is you should
think about death more. And I thought

534
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:22.760
that like they were being like sarcastic. But I think that there are people

535
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:27.880
who just don't think about death all
the time. They're called well adjusted people.

536
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:34.199
Yeah, apparently it's not normal.
I mean, I can't tell you

537
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.559
how many times in my life I've
had the oh it's just me and not

538
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:43.559
everyone else moments. Yeah. Uh
so this article from the Mirror dot co

539
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:47.760
dot uk is all about what people
see before they die. Well, none

540
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:52.159
of us like to think about it. Sometimes we may wonder what it feels

541
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.519
like before we die, Will our
life flash before our eyes? You may

542
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:59.599
have wondered from time to time if
there's any truth to the white lights or

543
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.199
seeing the face of a person you
love in your final moments. While we'll

544
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:07.400
never truly know until that time comes, an individual has offered some insight,

545
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:15.039
Okay. Hospice nurse Julie McFadden says
there is one thing that quote almost everybody

546
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.519
sees just before they die. Julie, who says she does not fear death,

547
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.360
says there are things that we can
all do to educate ourselves about it.

548
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:28.800
What a humble brag. Well,
I don't fear death, so yeah,

549
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:34.480
I don't know. I don't know
if I buy that. Well,

550
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.320
I don't know. I think she
doesn't fear death, but I don't think

551
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:43.360
that that's smart. I think it's
true. Just let a lion loose in

552
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:45.079
her apartment. She's like, oh, hey, yeah, it's fine.

553
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:50.039
I don't fear death. That's fine. I don't fear I like that.

554
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:52.320
That's the best way to put it. It's fine. I don't fear death,

555
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:57.760
like just very passing, Like just
say it really quick. Okay.

556
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:00.079
The author of Nothing to fear.
Oh she's selling book. There you go.

557
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:06.320
The author of Nothing to Fear,
spoke on the Skeptic Physician podcast and

558
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.320
shared the truth about what our dead
relatives may have seen in their final moments.

559
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:14.920
Julie from Los Angeles said, quote, one of the main things that

560
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:20.039
happens to almost everybody is it's usually
about a month before they die, they

561
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:24.920
start seeing people who've already died.
I'm guessing they mean like loved ones.

562
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.800
I don't know. It didn't specify. Oh well, she continues, oh

563
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:35.000
man, quote. It is always
people who bring them comfort. So I

564
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:38.119
say family members, but only family
members if they have a good relationship with

565
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:43.119
them. It's people who've already died
and they come to them. It's sometimes

566
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.719
dreams, but usually physically, and
they will say I'm coming to get you

567
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:51.639
soon. You don't have to worry
about anything. Well, I mean that's

568
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:53.639
nice. That's good. So it's
not the pile of fitty men you killed

569
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:57.239
in Vietnam or something. I mean, that's good. Right, Well,

570
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:02.800
you don't want to scare them yet
then they won't die. Yeah, where

571
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:07.440
are the people with that had the
horrible pasts? And it's just like every

572
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.000
person you wronged exactly, or like
what if there are people who don't have

573
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:15.360
anyone that they liked that died,
well, then it's just like that DMV

574
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:19.119
worker that was you were nice to
that one time. It's like, don't

575
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:25.800
worry, Oh, you'll come with
me. I I this is interesting,

576
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.920
But like, I'm curious what the
angle is going to be. It's the

577
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:35.280
book, the book is well,
I mean what the angle of the book

578
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:37.960
is is more so I mean,
obviously she's selling the book, yeah,

579
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:44.440
but like, is the angle that
our minds do that to comfort us or

580
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:50.079
that this is supernatural or That's what
I'm curious about. Okay, because the

581
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:54.480
fact that she was on the Skeptic
Metaphysician podcast makes me think that either that's

582
00:44:54.800 --> 00:45:00.760
not a good name for that podcast, or that she's a more realistic person.

583
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:04.079
Yeah, you know, because usually
when you use the word skeptic,

584
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:08.000
it means that they're at least questioning
and challenging concepts like life after death and

585
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:10.880
things like that. But then again, I mean, do you ever tell

586
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:15.880
you about the time I went to
a free thought meeting in Dayton, Ohio?

587
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:20.400
I don't think so. So.
Free thought groups used to be really

588
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.880
popular about fifteen ten, fifteen years
ago, and like most things, they

589
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:29.920
got too political and then everybody quit
going. No joke. That was literally

590
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:34.320
what killed it. Was all of
a sudden they became political action meetings and

591
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.039
then nobody wanted to go anywhere because
originally they were basically where a group of

592
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.039
people would go. And really the
thing that tied us all together was we

593
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:45.039
were at the very least, if
not non believers in religion. We were

594
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:50.760
skeptics of religion. We were challenging
religion. And the first time I went,

595
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:52.400
we all met at my favorite tie
restaurant. That's what got me to

596
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:54.599
go wow, was I was like, Hey, they're all meeting at my

597
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:59.079
favorite tie restaurant. We'll screw it. I'll go. And we were there

598
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:05.920
and it was all all the nicest
people and then this one guy who it

599
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:12.519
turns out was selling a cream Oh
that cures everything, Oh okay, And

600
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.320
he was shocked. He was like, I thought that skeptic meant you guys

601
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.760
looked for things outside the box.
And somebody was like, well, it's

602
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:22.159
not just about religion, it's about
pseudoscience and and you know things like that,

603
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.440
and he's like, well, it's
not pseudoscience, what I doh blah

604
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:29.239
blah blah blah blah. So finally, after the leader of the group was

605
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.400
like, way too nice, way
too long, I finally just chimed in

606
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:35.920
and I went, look, we
all think you're a con artist, and

607
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:38.400
it's because we know that you're a
con artist. So here's my question.

608
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:44.559
You claim to have a lotion with
crystal pieces in it that heals things.

609
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.280
Does it cure everything? And he's
like, and he starts listing all the

610
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:51.000
things that cures and I'm like,
can it cure AIDS? And he was

611
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.159
like, yes, it can help
with the illness of HIV. And I

612
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:55.000
was like, okay, well,
then let's go. Let's go down.

613
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.079
I literally said this. I was
like, let's go down to Cincinnati,

614
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:01.360
get you AIDS right now, and
then we'll come back. We'll get you

615
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:05.559
tested by a doctor we both agree
on, and then we could take your

616
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.760
topical ointment and cure it. And
he was like, I don't find that

617
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:13.079
very funny. I'm like, who's
laughing, I'll give you eighty bucks.

618
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:17.880
Yeah yeah. And the dude was
so bad well, but he was literally

619
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:22.800
there to sell us something. Yeah
yeah, And you'd think like if he

620
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.800
really believes in it. If it's
real, then yeah, he should just

621
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:30.000
go get AIDS and then I'm fixed. Yeah yeah in Cincinnati where it's plentiful.

622
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.119
But the funny part was like,
at first people were like, man,

623
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.000
you're being a little harsh on him, but then when he would defend

624
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.280
himself, it became so clear that
he was promoting hokum and he was just

625
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:44.920
bs so, especially when we pointed
out that, like, there's crystals in

626
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:46.519
the lotion, but of course they're
so finely ground you can't Oh, you

627
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:50.440
can't see them. There's no way
to tell that, which made me go,

628
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.440
oh, so it's just alo vira
or something. It's like it's got

629
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:58.039
nothing in it. But yeah,
the dude was like very frustrated. And

630
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.440
my point is that some time the
word skeptic means skeptical of all things,

631
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:06.280
and sometimes the word skeptic just means
skeptical of anything. Mainstream. Yeah,

632
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:07.880
yeah, there's a joke that's,
you know, or not a joke.

633
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:12.159
It's really a saying in the skeptic
community, which is you should keep an

634
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.199
open mind, but not a mind
so open that your brain falls out.

635
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:19.840
So anyway, I just thought of
that story really quick and I just remember

636
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.960
how like a guest he was when
I started speaking, because I was like,

637
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:25.000
I watched everybody be so polite for
so long, and I was like,

638
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:30.280
look, I'm just gonna say all
of it because I'm really tired of

639
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:35.239
this already. Because the whole meal, we would all talk about whatever we

640
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.679
were gonna talk about, but then
he would bump in and just talk about

641
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:44.719
how great these creams were and stuff. Yeah. Also, he was eating

642
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.199
like a lot of food, which
was just a funny image too, Like

643
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:50.840
he was ordering like tons of dumplings
and noodles and he's just like slurping it

644
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:53.840
all down and telling us, like
with a mouthful of food, how great

645
00:48:53.880 --> 00:49:00.880
all his wares are. Wow.
My favorite part was at the end of

646
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:04.440
the meal, he was like,
well, I don't feel like I'm necessarily

647
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:14.880
welcome here, and I just went, no, what anyway, let's see

648
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:20.119
The hospice worker said that it could
also be an individual's pet. She added,

649
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:22.679
quote, most people who experience this
are completely lucid. They're alert and

650
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:28.599
oriented. They are not actively dying
and hallucinating. It's a very distinct thing

651
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:34.400
that happens. Reacting to a clip
of the podcast segment, shared on TikTok

652
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.880
because all news is tiktokah. One
individual said, quote, my mom saw

653
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.840
and heard her sister and aunt.
They brought both of us comfort. She

654
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:46.880
didn't feel alone or scared. Another
person said quote, this is so comforting

655
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:53.039
my pets. I can't wait to
see them. That's so sad. I

656
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:58.480
mean, I get it, that's
so sad. Another said, thanks for

657
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:04.599
sharing your knowledge. It's very he
hopeful. That's one that's not it.

658
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:06.920
There's a little bit more left.
Oh, I was going to say,

659
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:08.880
like, that's really a comment that
they shared. Thanks, it was really

660
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:13.519
helpful in the article. I mean, I guess that they they're like that

661
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.119
sounds comforting. No, I know, but that's like a weird thing to

662
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:21.719
put in this article, like,
oh yeah, it's not really like why

663
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:25.079
well, I'm not trying to say
that the Mirror dot co dot uk has

664
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:31.239
low standards, but whoops, that
just blurted out. And that's why that's

665
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:37.960
why they're literally like the cow we
milk here on Monthly Spooky because they published

666
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.719
so many odd stories. This is
honestly one of the least kakammy stories.

667
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:44.639
Yeah, I've ever read them published
because almost all of them are like this

668
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:46.679
haunted doll may have killed someone,
and then you read the whole article and

669
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:50.760
there's nobody that may have died if
there was a doll that someone thought was

670
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:54.559
haunted, like love it or almost
every story is just recounting a scary TikTok.

671
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:58.639
Yeah, yeah, which, honestly, I need to get into horror

672
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.639
TikTok. I bet it's really fun. Yeah, I mean just watching it.

673
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:05.320
I don't have to like participate,
I just want to like view it.

674
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:09.960
So one individual sharing her heartbreak commented
quote, I lost my brother in

675
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:13.960
twenty twenty one and my dad last
week. I've been following you, and

676
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:20.679
I want to say thank you for
helping me understand transitioning. I mean,

677
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:27.039
what I just read doesn't like it
didn't suggest that it's actually happening. But

678
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:30.760
I guess that is what's being implied. That is absolutely what's being inferred,

679
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.559
because I mean, unless there's more
of the article, you did the thing

680
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:40.039
right, you used inferred instead of
implied, Oh was that good or bad?

681
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:47.559
It's bad. Inferred is when you
receive the implication. So like I

682
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.239
inferred that she means this, Oh
okay, it's the other way, okay,

683
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.559
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so
she's implying you would be inferring.

684
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:00.440
So I just learned the actual difference
like two weeks ago. So I'm like

685
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.920
really excited to share because I finally
understand it. It took me forever of

686
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:08.000
say inferred instead of implied. OK, so what you're saying is you're inferring

687
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:16.920
from this. Yes, so I
from this that she is implying that that

688
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:21.679
this is real, because there's nowhere
that says, oh, well, we

689
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:25.199
don't know what this is. So
it's just a statement that your relatives can

690
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:30.800
visit you and stuff. I'll say, here's where my skeptic brain goes off.

691
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:36.360
It's not it's these are hospice people. So these are people who are

692
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:39.840
aware that they're at the end of
the line. Yeah, it would be

693
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:45.000
different if there were stories of people
seeing their dead relatives and stuff before like

694
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:51.639
a car accident or you know,
or a sudden aneurysm. Yeah. I

695
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:57.360
think that this could just be a
part of coping with your situation. I

696
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:02.679
mean, your subconscious wants comfort,
your subconscious wants to remember. I gosh,

697
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:07.920
I feel weird talking about it,
but like I had dreams about my

698
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:13.239
dogs on the days I cried the
hardest about them, and it did bring

699
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.159
me some comfort until I woke up, and then I'd be sad again because

700
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:20.199
yeah, and have them anymore.
Your brain is nicer than my brain.

701
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:25.119
My brain doesn't do that ever,
not really. You don't dream about people

702
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:31.079
who are gone or animals that are
gone, I mean like years after they

703
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:35.960
were gone. Years and then it's
not really comforting. It's not the same

704
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:42.239
anymore. Sure, no, I
don't. So I guess that means that

705
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.360
my brain is just gonna let me
be all alone. Yeah, yeah,

706
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:51.440
in fact, yeah, yeah,
your brain is just gonna like it's gonna

707
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:54.000
just bring like you'll just see like
an eight year like a like an eighth

708
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:58.039
grader walk up to you and you
know and say, like, Michelle,

709
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:01.559
remember that time you said the wrong
thing, And you're like I do,

710
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:09.880
remember in twelve when I was twelve, and I just die, It'll just

711
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:15.679
be me coming to you, like
with angelings going, Michelle implied, is

712
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:20.800
what the person speaking does inferring is
what you do as the listener. Oh

713
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:30.039
no, and then I die,
I've been wrong all this time, But

714
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.719
so I guess that's my only point
is like it does seem I mean,

715
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:37.480
because I know that like near death
experiences could be were experienced by people who

716
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:42.079
weren't dying when they were put in
a centrifuge where all the blood left their

717
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:47.039
brain, they would see the same
things, bright lights, humanoid figures,

718
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:52.039
things like that. So I think
that in some ways this is definitely a

719
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:57.159
coping mechanism for the human mind.
I think that's definitely a possibility. I'm

720
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:01.280
not going to say definitely definitely,
because I just don't think we really grasp

721
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:07.719
what is going on with us well
enough. Really. Michelle laying on her

722
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:13.320
deathbed, guy walks up and goes, Michelle, I was going to feed

723
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:17.519
you to Bigfoot. It's okay that
you killed me. Oh yeah, I

724
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:21.159
can die in peace now, I
guess no, I'd be like, wait

725
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:37.400
what, We'll be right back after
these quick words with even more spooky news.

726
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:44.760
And we are back even more spooky
news. And Michelle, I have

727
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:51.599
a question for you. What are
you hungry? Not? Really? No,

728
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:55.280
No, are you hungry? I
was until I looked at this article

729
00:55:55.400 --> 00:56:06.639
from Huffington Post New Orleans restaurants cicada
salad on menu. Are you ambivalent toward

730
00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:10.760
eating bugs? Yes? Really?
Yeah? Have you eaten bugs? No

731
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:19.800
at all? I don't. I
mean, not intentionally. I wasn't participating

732
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.119
in eating bugs when it happened.
It just kind of happened. No,

733
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:29.960
I've eaten bugs, like I've eaten
candied ants and candied crickets. They're fine.

734
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:34.840
But when I look at this thing
where it's like cicadas are just like

735
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:38.960
piled on top of like, actually, this doesn't look that bad. It's

736
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:45.719
cicadas on top of what looks like
watercress, lettuce or whatever you call it.

737
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:50.840
And it looks like there's little slices
of green apple. Oh, which

738
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:52.559
I love apple and salad. I
don't know about you, but no,

739
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.840
I don't really, but that's okay. Well, in my family, apple

740
00:56:55.960 --> 00:57:00.800
finds its way into everything. I
don't know if I told you the secret

741
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:09.440
the secret to my grandmother's perfect coleslaw
is an apple cut up in it too,

742
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:14.000
that would probably be good though.
Yeah, it's really good. Yeah,

743
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:19.960
it adds this like crisp freshness to
it that I really like. But

744
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:22.679
I don't know if i'd want to
eat cicadas. Do you get a lot

745
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:25.000
of cicadas where you are? We
get them a lot, we do,

746
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:30.599
but we didn't get those really cool
at times when you couldn't like mow your

747
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:35.920
lawn because the cicadas are flying into
Oh god, that's apparently. I just

748
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:37.960
saw a news story but I don't
remember where it was from, but somewhere

749
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:42.880
in the US on the East coast, people the ziccadas are so loud right

750
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:46.320
now that people were calling the police. Yeah, which I don't know what

751
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:51.880
happens when you call the cops about
a zicicada noise complaint, but yeah,

752
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:57.719
uh, I mean when so we
had our big cicada apocalypse in twenty twenty

753
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.880
two or maybe those no twenty twenty
one. Yeah, we had our big

754
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:05.760
cicada apocalypse. Here there's a new
cicada apocalypse coming, but it's not in

755
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:07.960
Ohio. I had to explain to
some people because it went viral and people

756
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:09.599
were like, oh God, here
we go again. And I was like,

757
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:14.519
look at the map. It's mostly
Indiana and further west. It's not

758
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.719
really Ohio. We'll get some cicadas, but they're not going to be crazy

759
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:21.360
like it was. But we were
filming a movie in twenty twenty one,

760
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:25.079
and I mean the only thing I
could do was film every actor during the

761
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:29.639
times when the cicadas were really loud. We had to film every actor like

762
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:31.760
as tight as shot as possible and
put the microphone as close to their face

763
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:36.960
as humanly possible, and then still
had to use noise reduction and stuff to

764
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:38.719
get rid of it. It was
it was so loud. It wasn't as

765
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:45.679
loud as a lawnmower until three weeks
after we wrapped. One time I was

766
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:47.199
sitting, I went outside to deuce. I think it was letting the dogs

767
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:51.440
out, and it was so loud
it like was making my ears hurt.

768
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:57.800
Wow, So maybe I should be
down for eating cicadas, I guess,

769
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:01.320
yeah. So. But this one's
takes place in New Orleans, as the

770
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:07.280
nation prepares for trillions of red eyed
bugs known as periodical cicadas to emerge.

771
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:12.199
It's worth noting that they're not just
annoying noisy pests. If prepared properly,

772
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:17.599
they can also be a tasty something
tasty to eat. Yay. Blocks Away

773
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:25.840
from such French quarter fine dining stalwarts
as Antone's and Brennan's, the Audubon Insectarium

774
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:31.239
in New Orleans has long served up
an array of alternative insect based treats as

775
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:39.039
its bug Appetite Cafe overlooking the Mississippi
River. Is there anything more like this

776
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:47.760
is where tourists go than bug appetite? Yeah, cinnamon bug crunch, chilled

777
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:53.239
chili, fried waxworms, and crispy
cagn spiced critic gets are among the menu

778
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:58.519
items. So you're okay with the
idea of eating bugs, but you don't

779
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:00.920
do it. You never have done
it. How does that work? Just

780
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:06.280
like anything else in the world,
I'm not I don't know where I stand

781
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:10.079
on like those type of things,
like invertebrates and stuff on eating them.

782
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:14.880
I don't think I like eating things
that are alive, but I think if

783
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:17.519
I had to know, that seems
me you mean eating things that were ever

784
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:23.119
alive. You mean things things because
these bugs are dead and are alive,

785
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:31.920
or we're alive but aren't plants.
But maybe some plants that are alive I

786
01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:37.000
have a problem with, but not
the kind that you like. The kind

787
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:43.000
of plants where you don't eat the
roots are probably fine. Okay, Wait,

788
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:46.079
so no no potatoes because those are
roots. Yeah, sometimes I feel

789
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:57.920
really bad. I'm sorry, tuber, I'm sorry and cry, but yeah,

790
01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:00.039
but I mean, I'm not a
I don't know where I stand on

791
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:05.320
eating bugs. So I don't,
but I if I was going to consider

792
01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:08.400
eat it, you know, expanding
pro like to a living you know,

793
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:13.719
protein source, I might. I
would. It's possible that I could consider.

794
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:16.320
Would you consider them over fish because
you already eat fish sometimes? Right?

795
01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:22.280
Yes? Maybe I feel like fish
are pretty smart. But I think

796
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:27.199
bugs are smart too. But I
heard the cicadas are pretty dumb, so

797
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:30.400
I don't know. And also I
think it's mean to decide what you're going

798
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:37.559
to eat by how smart it is. So I don't really know. I

799
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:39.400
like it. You spent you spent
like forty five seconds making a point,

800
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:43.920
and they're like, but also I
hate that point. Yeah, that's that's

801
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:47.440
a perfect self debate. I like
it. No, I'm not against eating

802
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:52.559
bugs, I don't think, but
I understand the stigma that some people just

803
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:58.159
don't want to eat a bunch of
bugs. Yeah, I mean I think

804
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:02.639
that that's Uh, it's very dependent
on your the culture that you were you

805
01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:07.280
know, raised in. Yeah,
but a lot of cultures have very minimal

806
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:12.039
bug eating unless they're in like the
Jungles and stuff like that, where where

807
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:19.440
food is extremely youre the like s
cargo is like the big as far as

808
01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:23.599
the western world goes. Bug eating
is eating stales, and then of course

809
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:29.639
you get into like crustaceans, lobsters, crabs, which are basically giant bugs

810
01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:32.400
from the ocean, or even more
so, crawd ads, yeah, or

811
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:37.360
crayfish. How are you. I
grew up with them being crawd ads because

812
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:42.039
I was in New Hampshire catching them
to use for fishing bait. Yeah.

813
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:46.119
Do you ever eat a crawfish?
Yes, they're good. Yeah. Maybe

814
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:49.519
I am okay with eating bugs.
I don't know. I'm sure that they

815
01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:52.599
add a delightful crunch, and I've
heard that they're nutty, that they have

816
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:55.599
like a nutty flavor to them.
So maybe I'll send you some bugs.

817
01:02:57.320 --> 01:03:01.840
That's okay. I have enough bugs
here. I can always just eat.

818
01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:06.360
Okay, let me tell you something, yeah, continue, Yeah, of

819
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:08.920
course, two or three nights ago, I was in the bathroom, you

820
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:12.800
know, like washing my face,
just getting ready to go to sleep,

821
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:17.039
and all of a sudden, something
black just fell out of my my bangs.

822
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:22.480
Yeah, and it was an ant. I just had an ant in

823
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:27.920
my hair for how long? I
don't know. That is so funny.

824
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:30.639
You mentioned that, though, because
I had a bug incident last night before

825
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:36.559
I went to bed really, so
I I had taken my anxiety medicine and

826
01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:39.519
I take a pretty lately, I've
been taking a pretty strong dose at night

827
01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:45.039
because I have trouble. I'm having
trouble sleeping. So I'm sauntering to the

828
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:51.880
bathroom barely awake, and I'm trying
my best to like use the bathroom and

829
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:53.480
brush your teeth then go to bed, you know, like I'm trying not

830
01:03:53.559 --> 01:04:00.599
to like just pass out. Yeah, And as I'm about to use the

831
01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:05.480
bathroom, I'm walking up to the
toilet and there's a spider right at eye

832
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:11.519
level with me, right where I
would stand at the toilet. Not a

833
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:14.400
big one, I mean like like
like you know, he could he could

834
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:17.880
stand on a pinky nail and not
take up all of it. He's a

835
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:26.280
tiny guy. And I generally speaking, don't kill spiders ever unless I find

836
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:30.480
them on my body. Yeah,
I just that It's just then it's just

837
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:33.599
like nope, I kill things on
my body. But it wasn't on my

838
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:36.480
body. It was on the string, but it was right at eye level.

839
01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:41.599
So I ended up basically like limbowing, like stretching my head back so

840
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:45.159
that I could see out the toilet. I'm just and the whole time i'm

841
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:46.760
doing I'm just staring right at the
spider, and it's just not moving.

842
01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:49.159
It's not going up, not going
back down, It's just sitting there.

843
01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:55.960
I'm like, hey, pal so
and then after I was done, I

844
01:04:56.039 --> 01:04:58.360
like kept my eyes on it because
again I'm a little loopy, you know,

845
01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:01.159
I'm medicated, so I'm like staring
at it. I'm like, please,

846
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:04.480
don't move anymore. I don't want
to get startled or weirded out.

847
01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:06.800
So then I like finish up,
and then I'm brushing my teeth. The

848
01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:09.920
whole I'm brushing my teeth just out
of the corner of my ey I'm staring

849
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:13.199
at that spider. It's still just
an eye level with me, right by

850
01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:15.519
where you would stand by the toilet. So it was very, very funny.

851
01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:18.519
But I just remember like, and
when I was done brushing my teeth,

852
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:21.599
I was like, oh, and
then I looked. I think the

853
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:24.800
reason I kept looking at the spider
now I think about it, is because

854
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:27.239
I was like, is this spider
really here? Or am I just like

855
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:30.480
half asleep? Because I was like
half asleep. Mm hmm. So this

856
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:32.400
was one of those uh I don't
know if you get like this. But

857
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:35.519
I was in front of the TV
watching a show I like, and I

858
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:38.559
dozed off and woke up and I
was like, oh, crap, I

859
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:42.199
missed twenty minutes. So I reround
it, and then I just kept falling

860
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:44.440
asleep at the same spot again and
again, and by the third time,

861
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:46.039
I was like, all right,
it's just time for bed. Yeah,

862
01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:49.559
I don't do that. I fall
asleep during a show and then I wake

863
01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:53.320
up and I'm like, it's okay. I still know what's going on for

864
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:55.599
about twenty minutes, and then I
go like, okay, I've no idea

865
01:05:55.639 --> 01:05:59.519
what's happening. I've been watching Get
Shorty, which is like super super good

866
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:02.159
the TV. It's super good,
but it's like one of those like very

867
01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:08.119
dense storytelling shows. So like I
fell asleep the one time I tried that,

868
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:09.440
I was like, oh, I
know what's going on, and then

869
01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:11.400
it like cut to a character in
the hospital. I was like, wait

870
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:14.079
what And then it cut to another
guy and he's like getting shot, and

871
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:16.519
I was like what is happening?
So I was like, all right,

872
01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:23.039
I gotta go back like forty five
minutes. Anyway, too much of a

873
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:25.920
digression. But yeah, so that's
why I just thought it was when you

874
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:28.400
started telling your bug stories, like
shoot, I had a bug story literally

875
01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:31.079
last night. Yeah. So I
try not to kill spiders because they eat

876
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:35.079
the other bugs and stuff. And
uh and my mom was also one of

877
01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:38.599
those, like, never kill a
spider in the house if you could help

878
01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:45.519
it. Yeah so. But anyway, periodical sicanas stay buried for years until

879
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.559
they surface and take over a landscape. Depending on the variety, the emergence

880
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:54.880
happens every thirteen or seventeen years.
This year, two groups are expected to

881
01:06:54.920 --> 01:07:00.800
emerge soon, averaging around one million
per acre over hundreds of millions of acres

882
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:06.119
across parts of sixteen states in the
Midwest and South Lucky. They emerge when

883
01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:11.119
the ground warms up to sixty four
degrees or seventeen point eight degrees celsius,

884
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:15.519
which is happening earlier than it used
to because of climate change. I get

885
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:18.000
what they're saying, this is not
meant to be a dig at climate change.

886
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:23.119
But it's freaking freezing in Ohio right
now. Oh is it tomorrow?

887
01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:27.039
Tomorrow night? The low is like
is like thirty eight. Yeah, we

888
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.079
had we we have a really nice
day today, but the last couple of

889
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:34.039
days we've had freeze warnings. Yeah. Yeah. The high today is fifty

890
01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:40.079
four. Wow. Yeah, it's
seventy year. I haven't had my air

891
01:07:40.239 --> 01:07:44.000
or heat on in like four days, wow, because the house just like

892
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:46.360
gets kind of cold and then gets
kind of warm and then gets kind of

893
01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:49.719
cold again. So I'm just like
riding the I'm like, Eh, it's

894
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:53.079
fine, but tonight I'm gonna have
to turn the heat on because it's gonna

895
01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:56.760
get down to like thirty eight and
I don't want to risk it. I

896
01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:00.599
also like keep the house coolge when
the groundwarms of sixty four degrees, which

897
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:03.239
is happening earlier because the climate change, and them all said the bugs are

898
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:10.400
brown at first but darken as they
mature. Recently, Zach Lemon, Lemon

899
01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:15.880
sorry, The Insectarium's curator of animal
Collections, has been working up cicada dishes

900
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:19.399
that may become part of the menu. He donned a chef's smock this week

901
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:24.199
to show a couple of them off, including a green salad with apple almonds,

902
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:28.960
blueberry vinagrette, and roasted cicadas.
I feel like that's overk, Like,

903
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:31.279
do you really need the almonds if
you have roasted cicadas. I don't

904
01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:34.079
know. We don't really know what
they taste like, so we probably have

905
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:40.399
to. I imagine they're crunchy and
earthy. Yeah, but maybe they're Maybe

906
01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:43.880
the almonds compliment them somehow, that
could be. I mean, And how

907
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:45.960
are they roasted? Like are they
roasted with a neutral oil or with like

908
01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:51.680
an olive oil? Like that matters
too, It does matter. Yeah,

909
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:57.279
fried cicada nymphs were dressed on top
with a warm mixture of creole mustard and

910
01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:03.600
soy sauce. No opinion on that. Oh no, I'm just thinking about

911
01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:08.479
them being nymphs, which I mean, I guess means they're not fully cicaded.

912
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:12.840
Yeah, yeah, which makes me
sad because when cicadas are adults,

913
01:09:12.840 --> 01:09:15.920
they don't live for very long.
So I kind of feel like maybe it's

914
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:19.399
okay to eat them then, But
when they're all like just not having wings

915
01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:25.920
and stuff, I don't know.
Quote life, Uh, I mean it's

916
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:30.119
a complicated thing. Quote I do
dragonflies in a similar manner, le Mon

917
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:34.000
said as he used tweezers to PLoP
nymphs into a container of flour before cooking

918
01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:39.079
them in hottle oh, so they're
like fried. Mm hm, I bet

919
01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:43.720
they're pretty good. Yeah. I
mean once you once you fry you bread

920
01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:46.279
something and fry it, it's going
to be pretty good. Yeah. Yeah.

921
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:49.560
Depending on the type and the way
they are prepared cook cicadas taste similar

922
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:55.479
to toasted seeds or nuts. That's
what I thought. The insectarium isn't the

923
01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:57.920
first to promote the idea of eating
them. Over the years, they have

924
01:09:57.960 --> 01:10:01.640
appeared on a smattering of menus and
in cookbooks, including titles like Cicada Delicious

925
01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:06.840
from the University of Maryland in two
thousand and four. That's a winner.

926
01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:12.319
I can just I can hear somebody
who works at a college thinking that was

927
01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:15.720
great. Yeah, cat delicious,
guys. Quote, every culture has things

928
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:19.359
that they love to eat, and
maybe things that are taboo or things that

929
01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:24.680
people just sort of wrinkle their nose
and frown their brow at. Laman said,

930
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:27.840
and there's no reason to do that
with insects when you look at the

931
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:30.760
nutritional value, their quality on the
plate, how they taste, the environmental

932
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:38.479
benefits of harvesting insects instead of dealing
with livestock. I mean, I suppose

933
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:44.319
Laman has been working to make sure
the Bug Appetite Cafe has legal clearance to

934
01:10:44.359 --> 01:10:47.439
serve wild caught cicadas. While he
works on lining up sources for the bugs.

935
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:53.439
He expects this spring's unusual emergence of
two huge broods of cicadas to heighten

936
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:58.720
interest in insects in general and in
the insectedarium, even though the affected area

937
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:02.000
doesn't include south east Louisiana. I
guess he's got to go on a little

938
01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:06.680
trip. Yeah, bug trips.
Yeah. Quote. I can't imagine,

939
01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:11.720
given the fact that periodical cicadas are
national news, that we won't have guests

940
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.600
both local and from outside New Orleans
asking us about that, said Laman,

941
01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:18.800
which is another reason I hope to
have enough to serve at least a few

942
01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:25.760
times to people. Yeah, okay, well I am going to send you

943
01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:29.720
bugs, Michelle. Can you just
send me cicadas? But can they be

944
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:32.399
alive so I can put them outside? I mean, they could be alive

945
01:11:32.439 --> 01:11:41.000
when I put them in the box. Oh no, fine, And you're

946
01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:45.159
you're you're so difficult to shop for. We'll be right back after this,

947
01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:02.079
and we are back with one more
p of spooky news, and this one,

948
01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:06.079
of course, back to our old
good Buddy, Mirror dot co dot

949
01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:15.640
UK no response there, No,
you're like I blinked. Yeah, this

950
01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:21.680
one is. Woman captures ghost soldier
on camera after her dogs started barking like

951
01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:28.840
crazy. Okay, a woman claims
she's captured the ghost of a soldier who

952
01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:34.840
massacred aboriginals lurking in her garden.
Well that's specific. Well that's what he

953
01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:42.319
said. I'm gonna read that one
more time. A woman claims she has

954
01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:46.840
captured the ghost of a quote soldier
who massacred aboriginals lurking in her garden on

955
01:12:46.960 --> 01:12:53.560
camera after her dogs started barking like
crazy. Lal Robertson fifty one was at

956
01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:57.760
her home in Queensland, Australia,
when her pets were unsettled by something outside.

957
01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:01.520
She checked her security cameras and was
a astonished to spot a quote human

958
01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:06.920
like figure lingering just a few meters
away from her porch. The image shows

959
01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:12.119
what she believes to be a soldier's
legs with boots on and the dark shadow

960
01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:17.520
of an upper body described as unnaturally
disfigured. Oh that's not a nice thing

961
01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:23.600
to say to someone. It is
not and I'm looking at the photo right

962
01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:29.239
now. It looks like a shadow
that is vaguely human shaped, Like you

963
01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:31.600
have what looks like shoulders in a
head and nothing else. Okay, everything

964
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:39.560
else is just a straight line of
black. I don't I'm really curious where

965
01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:45.199
she got the backstory. Yeah,
so let's let's read. She's like,

966
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:49.479
oh, he just looks like the
sort mate. Yeah. The grandmother says

967
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:54.880
she's been told that soldiers. Oh
gosh, here we go. The grandmother

968
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:59.600
says that she's been told that soldiers
massacred aboriginals near her house during the eighteen

969
01:13:59.720 --> 01:14:03.479
hundred and she believes one of them
is haunting the property. Why would they

970
01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:10.720
be haunting the property and not the
massacred aboriginals. Yeah, I mean maybe

971
01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:15.760
maybe he has regrets. It sounds
to me like her her spectral aspirations are

972
01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:19.560
a little bit prejudice. Yeah,
she's like, oh, I don't count

973
01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:27.560
them because they don't speak the same
language as me. Ghosts. She posted

974
01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:30.560
the snap on Facebook on Saturday,
and users have since hailed it as evidence

975
01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:35.600
of paranormal activity, and others said
it gave them a bad and uncomfortable feeling.

976
01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:45.000
It it looks vaguely like a human
figure to me. Yeah, yeah,

977
01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:49.640
that bad feeling. It kind of
reminds me of Batman, Like I

978
01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:58.920
swear I see pointy ears. Maybe
it was Batman. It would be strange,

979
01:14:58.920 --> 01:15:01.520
wouldn't might even be weirder than if
it was a ghost. It would

980
01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:05.079
be a lot weirder, actually,
she said, quote it looks like a

981
01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:09.720
soldier with his boots on. His
legs are really clear and they're transparent.

982
01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:13.000
I did not really see anything that
looked like legs to me. In the

983
01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:15.640
eighteen hundreds, there was a massacre
here where there were troops coming in and

984
01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:19.760
killing aboriginals, so it could be
one of those. My dogs usually tell

985
01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:24.399
me if something's around that shouldn't be
in the yard, and they were going

986
01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:27.840
crazy, so I went to check
the footage. When I saw it,

987
01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:30.159
I just said, oh my god, what a bloody image. We've just

988
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:35.840
caught the bloody. The word bloody
had like asterixes, like cause I guess

989
01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:41.399
it's a swear word there. I've
been trying to put what's been happening here

990
01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:45.600
into the paranormal investigation world for around
a year now, and everybody called me

991
01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:48.399
a liar. Now I've got this, and I thought they can't say anything

992
01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:51.479
about this one, but they do
now I think it's absolutely a fraud.

993
01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:58.239
Since he said that, because it
doesn't look that convincing, I feel like

994
01:15:58.279 --> 01:16:00.960
I've found the proof now. I
don't know how. We just got a

995
01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:03.640
photo of it, not a video, but because it's a motion sensor camera,

996
01:16:03.680 --> 01:16:06.199
it just got a photo. It's
taken me a while to get used

997
01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:09.960
to this sort of thing. The
first year I was very scared, but

998
01:16:10.039 --> 01:16:14.199
now I just love it. Wait, so now you're like, this is

999
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:17.279
a soldier who massacred aboriginals and I
love having him around. What the hell

1000
01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:24.359
are you talking about? Lady thought, she just loves the camera. Oh,

1001
01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:32.199
this is actually off of her Amazon
review of that camera. Gosh,

1002
01:16:32.279 --> 01:16:35.600
yeah, it does not look convincing
to me. He looks more like Batman.

1003
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:42.560
Lal moved into the house four years
ago and claims paranormal activity began two

1004
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:47.079
years ago with knocking on their windows
and pictures falling off their walls, but

1005
01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:51.399
some have claimed her proof is just
a camera lens delay from when a husband,

1006
01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:56.720
Joe Wilson, went outside to put
Lal, but Lalell insists nobody was

1007
01:16:56.760 --> 01:17:00.520
outside at the time and that her
dogs can sense ghoul that is not a

1008
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:06.199
ghoul. Gules eat human flesh,
ghoul and ghost is not interchangeable. You

1009
01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:17.119
need to write to them. Dear
dumb bastards, how dare you can sense?

1010
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:20.920
Gules? Her Facebook post is racked
up more than four hundred and fifty

1011
01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:25.560
reactions in more than eighty comments.
That's not even that many. That's nothing.

1012
01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:29.359
The poster reads, it's amazing what
the full moon brings out in your

1013
01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:31.680
backyard. And this photo you can
see a half of a spirit soldier with

1014
01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:36.279
his boots on and a dark entity
against the laundry wall. There's definitely two

1015
01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:40.479
spirits that they and as they don't
match up. Wait, so wait,

1016
01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:44.399
now there's two of them. I
only see the one with the shadow.

1017
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:48.279
H wait, and there are those
dogs right next to it. I can't

1018
01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:50.760
tell. It's like a really dark, grainy, black and white photo.

1019
01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:59.920
Of course, One convinced user commented, now that's something paranormal. Another agreed

1020
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:04.119
and said best evidence I've seen on
this page. A third, spooked out

1021
01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:08.600
viewer said, Wow, that is
so amazing you caught this evidence of the

1022
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:15.640
paranormal. A fourth explained the size
comparison of the figure to the height of

1023
01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:19.079
the porch is crazy, so unnaturally
slender and disfigured. It gave me a

1024
01:18:19.239 --> 01:18:26.720
very unwell sensation. I am looking
at the photo and I do not see

1025
01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:30.000
I only see the one dude and
he looks like he'd be short. Actually,

1026
01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:39.960
I don't know this is this is
so weird. Another user felt same

1027
01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:43.520
and said I got a very bad
feeling just by looking at this pick.

1028
01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:46.800
However, one surmised, I think
you're cam glitch because the dogs are following

1029
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:49.199
it. I was right, the
dogs are right next to it, but

1030
01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:55.760
Lal replied, my dogs are very
aware of the spirits here. Yeah,

1031
01:18:55.800 --> 01:19:00.880
it's a spirit, a spirit hurting
dog. It's like an Australian Shepherd,

1032
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:09.439
but for ghosts and rules as well. Yeah, it literally looks like Batman.

1033
01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:14.560
I this is so weird. H
Let me zoom in on it.

1034
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:19.079
Yeah, it like literally looks like
it has little little u batwing or bat

1035
01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:26.760
ears on the top. Yeah,
my money's on Batman. Okay, Oh,

1036
01:19:26.840 --> 01:19:30.560
I see the disfigured legs they're talking
about. It just looks like it's

1037
01:19:30.960 --> 01:19:36.199
a glitch closer to the camera than
the shadow is. Ah well, I

1038
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:40.720
mean, in their defense, it
can get kind of boring in Australia,

1039
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:45.960
so maybe they just needed to you
know, they need a little razzle dazzle.

1040
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:53.119
Maybe, I mean, I could
be wrong, but speaking of things

1041
01:19:53.159 --> 01:19:59.000
that people see and possibly misinterpret,
whether it is legitimate accident or you know,

1042
01:19:59.119 --> 01:20:02.600
in the hope of game fame.
When was the first time you ever

1043
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:08.439
heard of a river or lake monster? I don't know. I guess that

1044
01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:12.439
long ago, Like I don't have
a specific first memory, but it was

1045
01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:15.560
probably was it the Locknest monster you
probably heard of first? Yeah, me

1046
01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:21.439
too. So the first time I
ever heard of the Lockness Monster was I

1047
01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:28.359
had this VHS tape that was of
monster movie trailers. It was one of

1048
01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:31.000
those cheap good Times compilations where they
just released a bunch of movie trailers and

1049
01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:34.359
called it a tape, you know, but it was all advertisements for movies.

1050
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:39.560
Yeah, and it had a clip. It had a trailer for a

1051
01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:44.479
movie called Lockness Terror or the Lockness
Horror. Sorry, Lockness Terror is a

1052
01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:48.039
different movie. But it was the
cheesiest I'd never seen a trailer so horrible.

1053
01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:53.199
Like I'm like seven eight nine,
and I'm just like, whoa,

1054
01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:57.359
Like, the monster looks so fake, it's so silly. And I've seen

1055
01:20:57.359 --> 01:21:01.279
the movie once. When I was
I found a copy and I watched it

1056
01:21:01.319 --> 01:21:05.479
and it was abysmal. It was
very bad. I actually have a book

1057
01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:11.840
about the guy who produced it,
and the book is called It Came from

1058
01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:15.800
Hunger, which is his way of
referring to how he got into the movie

1059
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:19.279
business strictly because he was broke and
he wanted to make money, and that

1060
01:21:19.319 --> 01:21:23.840
was how he made money. But
that was the first time I had heard

1061
01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:29.960
of the Locknest Monster. Was from
some cheesy horror movie about the Locknest Monster.

1062
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:33.039
But then I've told you this before. I rented all of the or

1063
01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:38.039
checked out all of the paranormal books
at the library at my elementary school,

1064
01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:43.479
right and there was one about ghosts, and there was one about UFOs,

1065
01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:46.000
and there was one about cryptids basically, although I think back then they just

1066
01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:51.800
called them like folklore creatures or something. And my favorite one was the UFO

1067
01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:56.239
book. When I was a kid, I was obsessed with learning about UFOs,

1068
01:21:56.600 --> 01:22:00.359
learning about Project Blue Book, and
learning about like secret Air Force bases

1069
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:04.920
with military you know, secrets about
ghost because you got or not ghosts about

1070
01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:10.880
aliens because remember so I live right
near right Patterson Air Force Base and the

1071
01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:17.079
famous radio broadcast about the crash in
Roswell literally says that the mysterious crafts are

1072
01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:24.039
being taken to Right Patterson, Ohio. Oh wow, which was a minor

1073
01:22:24.359 --> 01:22:27.560
mistake because there is no Right Patterson, Ohio. It's a Right Patterson Air

1074
01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:30.840
Force Base in Fairborne, Ohio.
But whatever I mean, it's I know

1075
01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:35.560
what they meant. And from there, there's been a rumor here in this

1076
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:44.079
area about Hanger eighteen being where the
alien bodies are, and then and then

1077
01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:45.640
it's become I remember when I was
a kid, they always talked about Hangar

1078
01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:50.119
eighteen is where the alien bodies are, Hangar thirteen is full of Christmas lights.

1079
01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:54.720
I remember hearing that one. I'm
serious, it's just like the whispers

1080
01:22:55.079 --> 01:22:58.359
of stupid children you're talking about,
like that's where the Christmas lights are,

1081
01:22:58.399 --> 01:23:02.359
but the aliens are in Hangar eighteen. So but so I've always been kind

1082
01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:06.319
of fascinated by that stuff. But
I remember the Lockness monster very much grabbing

1083
01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:14.399
my my mind as a kid,
grabbing my imagination. So what are your

1084
01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:16.159
thoughts on befocause we're going to talk
about a different monster. But I just

1085
01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:18.760
wanted to talk about this a little
bit because I feel like most people the

1086
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:24.359
Lockness Monster is there is their introduction
to the idea of lake and river monsters.

1087
01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:28.279
So do you have any thoughts about
the Locknest Monster. Have you ever

1088
01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:31.119
considered it or wondered about it or
anything at all? Or or you just

1089
01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:35.119
remember when it was on South Park
and the odhim three to fifty tree Fitty

1090
01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:43.119
damn Locknest Monster osby tree Fitty.
Yeah, no, I am, I

1091
01:23:43.159 --> 01:23:46.159
don't know. I don't think it's
real. I mean I didn't. I

1092
01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:48.600
didn't say that I thought it was
real. I just said, like,

1093
01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:53.119
did you ever think about it much? I mean, I've thought about it

1094
01:23:53.159 --> 01:23:59.319
before because it could be one of
those those kind of weird big swimming dinosaurs.

1095
01:24:00.960 --> 01:24:03.439
Yea, they kind of look like
that. But why would it be

1096
01:24:03.560 --> 01:24:06.640
there, and how would it be
there, and how come no one has

1097
01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:13.760
really good images of it if it's
there, and the most famous image was

1098
01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:18.720
admitted to be a hoax years later. Yeah, so like, yeah,

1099
01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:21.640
it would be kind of cool if
there was just a big thing in the

1100
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:26.079
lake, But I don't think there's
a big thing in the line. The

1101
01:24:26.119 --> 01:24:30.199
big debate about that is, generally
speaking, an ecosystem that small couldn't support

1102
01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:34.279
an animal that big, it wouldn't
provide enough food for it to eat without

1103
01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:39.680
the ecosystem crashing, right, So
maybe it has to go. Maybe there's

1104
01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:44.399
a like a way out of the
lake to another lake. There are there

1105
01:24:44.439 --> 01:24:47.600
are claims that there are I don't
know how true they are, that there

1106
01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:53.479
are actually tunnels that lead to the
ocean. Yeah, from Lockness. But

1107
01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:57.000
then the question is like, wouldn't
it make more sense if it was just

1108
01:24:57.039 --> 01:25:01.039
like a whale or something that just
happened the in there. Yeah, when

1109
01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:05.479
there are some people who think it's
a giant eel, it could be eels

1110
01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:11.640
or mysterious they are, But again, an eel that big would not really

1111
01:25:11.680 --> 01:25:15.800
be able to survive in that ecosystem
because it would need to eat so much.

1112
01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:18.640
Well it Yeah, but it could
be coming in and out of those

1113
01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:26.039
tunnels, that's true. Maybe it
just goes there to mate or something.

1114
01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:28.520
I don't know. Well, that's
the other thing too, is like that

1115
01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:30.359
is you come into the bigfoot problem
too, which is like, well,

1116
01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:34.439
there'd have to be many of them
in order for it to keep living.

1117
01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:38.720
For you know, over one hundred
years that people have been saying Locknest monster

1118
01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:43.520
exists, it would need to be
able to breed. Otherwise we're talking that

1119
01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:47.600
it's a super it's a supernatural being
that just never dies, which is way

1120
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:53.079
outside of the pail. Yeah yeah, I mean, what if it's like

1121
01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:58.640
a big thing that like lives really
deep in the ocean, like in a

1122
01:25:59.199 --> 01:26:05.039
whatever that son is called, I
don't remember, the one that's really dark,

1123
01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:09.920
and sometimes it just likes to come
up and it just comes up over

1124
01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:14.640
there. It goes through the tunnel, then it comes up and it goes

1125
01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:19.520
lets people see it, and then
it goes. Yeah, it's like holdy,

1126
01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:24.199
all right, back to the depths. I don't know, but that

1127
01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:27.720
all being said, when we come
back from the break, we're going to

1128
01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:42.640
be talking about Champi, America's Locknest
Monster right after this. All right,

1129
01:26:42.720 --> 01:26:47.399
we are back and it's time for
us to dive deep into Champy the Lake

1130
01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:57.199
Champlain Monster. Yeah, thank you
for your support there, chel jeez.

1131
01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:03.479
But as you we're going to dive
in using the epitome of information that is

1132
01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:14.520
always deeply accurate Wikipedia. My AI
job considers Wikipedia accurate. So oh boy,

1133
01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:20.079
cell siding with the machines. Yeah, I knew it well before we

1134
01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:23.439
dive into it. Do you remember
the first time you heard about Champy.

1135
01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:27.640
Yeah for my sister. Oh yeah, yeah, did she see Champy?

1136
01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:34.560
No, No, she just talked
about him or her. I think we

1137
01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:40.479
should probably use gender neutral pronouns for
champions. She just talked about them.

1138
01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:45.479
Well, I only know a little
bit about CHAMPI so I'm actually excited to

1139
01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:51.079
learn more. Yay. So.
According to Wikipedia, an American folkal or

1140
01:27:51.159 --> 01:27:55.319
champ or Champion is the name of
a lake monster said to live in Lake

1141
01:27:55.399 --> 01:27:59.720
Champlain, a one hundred and twenty
five mile long body of fresh water shared

1142
01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:04.279
by New York and Vermont, with
a portion extending into Quebec, Canada.

1143
01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:09.359
The legend of the monster is considered
a draw for tourism in Burlington, Vermont,

1144
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:14.960
and Plattsburgh, New York areas.
Huh, never been to Lake Champlain.

1145
01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:17.079
We should go, see we gotta, we gotta just like fundraise for

1146
01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:19.520
all this. We're gonna go here. Then we'll go to Sleepy Hollow,

1147
01:28:19.560 --> 01:28:24.880
then we'll go to Salem. You
know, we'll just that area of Vermont.

1148
01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:28.560
I haven't been to the New York
side. It's very very nice there,

1149
01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:31.800
and I have been out on Lake
Champlain really yeah, but I didn't

1150
01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:35.560
see any monsters. That would have
been hilarious, like and I saw the

1151
01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:40.720
monster be like, now you're saying
I figured I just you know, we'll

1152
01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:43.479
just skip over that part, like
I didn't think you cared. It's like

1153
01:28:43.479 --> 01:28:46.640
what, so, well, let
me ask you, since you've been on

1154
01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:50.159
Lake Champlain, was it really nice? Yeah, it was really nice.

1155
01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:56.600
It's like a beautiful, beautiful part
of the country. Yeah. Well good,

1156
01:28:57.680 --> 01:29:01.359
I haven't been there because I'm not
as fancy as you. So now

1157
01:29:01.399 --> 01:29:05.840
we're going to dive into the history
of the legend, which apparently over the

1158
01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:12.680
years there have been over three hundred
reported sightings of CHAMPI wow, that's a

1159
01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:17.880
lot. Yeah. The original story
is related to Iroquois legends of giant snakes,

1160
01:29:17.880 --> 01:29:25.520
which the mohawk named on You are
koi koha only literally O n y

1161
01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:31.960
are e only r koya okay.
French cartographer Samuel D. Champlain, the

1162
01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:38.319
founder of Quebec and the lake's nicknamesake, is often claimed to be the first

1163
01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:44.159
European to have cited Champion in sixteen
oh nine. Oh that's a long time

1164
01:29:44.159 --> 01:29:48.840
ago, man. I've always thought
that sea monsters are really interesting because with

1165
01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:54.960
there being so much mystery in the
depths. Like imagine just being on a

1166
01:29:55.039 --> 01:29:59.439
ship that is barely able to stay
afloat, and then you just see a

1167
01:29:59.439 --> 01:30:03.560
friggin' way and you're just like the
fuck man, Yeah, Nope, Like

1168
01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:06.119
that would be enough for me to
be like, who knows, man,

1169
01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:11.920
there's probably dragons and shit living now
here. Yeah, it I totally think

1170
01:30:11.920 --> 01:30:16.800
that would be a reasonable assumption in
like the fifteen hundreds. The earliest source

1171
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:23.319
of this claim is the is the
summer nineteen seventy issue of the magazine Vermont

1172
01:30:23.439 --> 01:30:28.760
Life. The magazine quoted Champlain is
having documented a twenty foot or six point

1173
01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:32.560
one meter serpent, thick as a
barrel and with a head like a horse.

1174
01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:39.640
Oh. There is no evidence,
though, that Champlain had ever said

1175
01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:45.159
that, although he did document very
large fish. Here's a quote from that.

1176
01:30:45.680 --> 01:30:49.319
There is also a great abundance of
fish of many varieties, among others,

1177
01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:55.600
one called by the savages of the
country chaffarou quote, which varies in

1178
01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:59.199
length, the largest being as the
people told me, eight or ten feet

1179
01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:03.199
long. I saw some five foot
long which were as large as my thigh,

1180
01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:06.720
the head being as big as my
two fists, with a snout two

1181
01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:11.640
and a half feet long and a
double row of very sharp and dangerous teeth.

1182
01:31:12.119 --> 01:31:15.159
Its body is in shape very much
like that of a pike, but

1183
01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:20.079
it is armed with scales so strong
and poniard could not pierce them. Its

1184
01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:24.920
color is silver gray. So that's
what Champlain actually said about some kind of

1185
01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:29.439
a giant fish. Okay, and
have you ever watched the show River Monsters.

1186
01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:33.640
No, it's one of my favorite
shows on I think it was on

1187
01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:39.199
the History Channel. Originally I watched
it because he would go In the first

1188
01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:42.359
couple of seasons, he would go
to some river where they said, like

1189
01:31:42.359 --> 01:31:44.359
there's a giant fish and people will
be like, I don't know that there's

1190
01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:46.720
a giant fish, and then he'd
always catch it because he was like expert

1191
01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:50.680
fishermen. I heard in the later
seasons he went to like Lochness and stuff,

1192
01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:54.199
and that's when I was like,
I'm guessing he didn't find anything.

1193
01:31:55.319 --> 01:31:58.560
But it was amazing because he would
literally like go into this water where they

1194
01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:00.119
were like, nobody knows for certain
that there's a fish this big, and

1195
01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:04.880
then he'd catched this unbelievably big,
terrifying fish wow, and just be like,

1196
01:32:04.960 --> 01:32:08.319
yep, you just never know what's
in the lakes in the rivers,

1197
01:32:08.359 --> 01:32:11.920
you know, So especially when you
go to South America, it would just

1198
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:14.800
be like, holy crap, there
are these giant fish. And it was

1199
01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:17.000
almost always, uh, he would
go to places where people had reported humans

1200
01:32:17.039 --> 01:32:24.119
being attacked by them. Okay.
He also disproved the myth that piranya are

1201
01:32:24.199 --> 01:32:28.640
not that dangerous. Oh okay,
because he pointed out that all of the

1202
01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:34.760
examples of piranha not being very dangerous
were pirana that were in captivity. So

1203
01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:40.680
he took a chicken like a chicken
body and dunked it in the water,

1204
01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:44.279
and they literally picked the bones clean
in a matter of a minute. Oh

1205
01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:47.039
man, I'm really hoping they weren't
dangerous. Sorry, well, it doesn't

1206
01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:49.520
mean that they'll eat like a living
person, but it does mean that in

1207
01:32:49.640 --> 01:32:58.079
nature they are very hungry and vicious. So so, oh, here we

1208
01:32:58.159 --> 01:33:05.359
go. The teen seventy eight translation
of his journals clarifies chafo chafo chow chowa

1209
01:33:05.560 --> 01:33:11.279
foua sorry, it's very hard to
say, refers to gar or gar pike,

1210
01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:16.239
specifically specifically the long nose gar.
Okay. And and I've heard that

1211
01:33:16.279 --> 01:33:19.920
a lot that a gar they're they're
the biggest thing you find in fresh water

1212
01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:26.159
spaces. But that again, I've
always heard that gar get as big as

1213
01:33:26.279 --> 01:33:32.079
the environment will allow them to,
like goldfish exactly, So how much space

1214
01:33:32.119 --> 01:33:36.039
they have and how much food they
have access to plays a major part in

1215
01:33:36.079 --> 01:33:41.199
how big they can get. That's
why a lot of people surmise that eel.

1216
01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:47.880
When a big eel is was born
and is albino, they tend to

1217
01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:56.439
be which does happen? They tend
to be infertile, so instead of mating,

1218
01:33:56.760 --> 01:34:00.000
they just eat and get bigger and
bigger and bigger and bigger. So

1219
01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:04.560
they found that in nature that some
eels like if they're impotent eels, they

1220
01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:09.640
just get huge. So some people
think that that's where some sea monsters or

1221
01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:12.640
monsters come from, is just impotent
eels because they just eat and eat and

1222
01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:16.079
eat and get bigger and bigger and
bigger. Wow, I mean same.

1223
01:34:16.439 --> 01:34:24.479
But an eighteen nineteen report and the
Plattsburgh Republican entitled Cape Anne serpent on Lake

1224
01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:30.600
Champlain reports a Captain Crumb citing an
enormous serpentine monster. Crumb estimated the monsters

1225
01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:35.560
who have been about one hundred and
eighty seven feet long and approximately two hundred

1226
01:34:35.640 --> 01:34:42.680
yards away from him. So that's
a bit bigger than the twenty to thirty

1227
01:34:42.720 --> 01:34:46.920
feet that we were hearing before,
just a bit. Despite the great distance,

1228
01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:50.520
he claimed to have witnessed it being
followed by too large sturgeon and a

1229
01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:55.760
billfish, and was able to see
that it had three teeth, and eyes

1230
01:34:55.840 --> 01:35:03.159
the color of peeled onions. Okay, so kind of milky white is what

1231
01:35:03.199 --> 01:35:09.720
did eighteen hundreds quote? And eyes
the color of peeled onions. He also

1232
01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:13.560
described the monster as having a belt
of red around its neck and a white

1233
01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:17.439
star on its forehead. Wow.
Yeah, it's getting stupider by the second.

1234
01:35:20.039 --> 01:35:24.520
In eighteen eighty three, Sheriff Nathan
H. Mooney claimed that he had

1235
01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:29.279
seen a water serpent about twenty rods, the equivalent of one hundred and ten

1236
01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:34.319
yards in length. Oh god,
that's very long. It's one hundred meters

1237
01:35:34.880 --> 01:35:38.840
from where he was on the shore. He claimed that he was so close

1238
01:35:38.880 --> 01:35:44.960
that he could see round white spots
inside its mouth, and that the creature

1239
01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:51.840
appeared to be twenty five to thirty
feet in length. Wow. Mooney's sighting

1240
01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:59.199
led to many more alleged eyewitnesses coming
forward with their own accounts of CHAMPI the

1241
01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:01.000
legend of Champion. He captured the
interest of P. T. Barnum,

1242
01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:05.039
and in eighteen seventy three and eighteen
eighty seven, the famous showman offered rewards

1243
01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:10.800
for anyone who could bring him the
monster. The thing I love about P.

1244
01:36:10.960 --> 01:36:13.000
T. Barnum, which, by
the way, I feel he's a

1245
01:36:13.079 --> 01:36:16.399
very misunderstood person. You know,
the saying a sucker is born every minute.

1246
01:36:16.920 --> 01:36:20.520
Yes, that there's no evidence P. T. Barnum ever said it.

1247
01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:25.880
Okay, Apparently P. T.
Barnum, the people who knew him,

1248
01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:30.760
claimed that his attitude towards fooling people
and stuff was more the idea that

1249
01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:34.119
there was this old quote from an
old poem that basically said, like the

1250
01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:38.560
only person who has more fun than
the cheater is the cheated. Hm.

1251
01:36:39.359 --> 01:36:41.800
So his idea was more that like, as long as they're having a fun

1252
01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:45.279
time, who cares? Yeah?
Yeah, And honestly, and when you

1253
01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:47.720
look at the way he entertained people, I kind of believe it because he

1254
01:36:47.760 --> 01:36:53.479
did. He just like captured your
imagination because he had the Fiji Mermaid,

1255
01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:57.960
you know, which he knew was
fake, or at least surmised was fake,

1256
01:36:58.439 --> 01:37:02.319
because it was probably faked. Aboriginal
people from the place he got it

1257
01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:05.319
from, Fiji, I would assume, yeah, but what do I know

1258
01:37:05.319 --> 01:37:13.399
about Fiji? So now we're going
to talk about the Mancy photograph. So,

1259
01:37:13.840 --> 01:37:15.279
oh, hey, there's Joe Nickel
in the picture. He's a paranormal

1260
01:37:15.319 --> 01:37:18.680
investigator. I'm reading a book by
him right now about Peggy Barnum. Oddly

1261
01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:26.880
enough, so, in nineteen seventy
seven, Sondra Mansey took a photograph while

1262
01:37:26.920 --> 01:37:30.319
on vacation with her family that appears
to show the dinosaur with his head out

1263
01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:34.479
of the lake. So this is
very much like a locknest monster looking image,

1264
01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:42.239
very much. The entire bay of
the lake where the photograph reportedly was

1265
01:37:42.279 --> 01:37:46.560
taken is no deeper than fourteen feet
oh. According to Joe Nickel, it

1266
01:37:46.640 --> 01:37:50.640
is unlikely that a giant creature could
swim, let alone hide in such shallow

1267
01:37:50.680 --> 01:37:56.720
water. It has been suggested that
the object in the photograph could possibly be

1268
01:37:56.840 --> 01:38:02.640
a rising tree trunk or log.
I mean, I liked kayak, Like

1269
01:38:02.680 --> 01:38:05.119
that's one of my favorite things,
which is weird because I'm afraid of the

1270
01:38:05.119 --> 01:38:09.479
water, But I love kayaking,
which is literally like sitting on the water,

1271
01:38:09.680 --> 01:38:15.640
yeah and scooting around. But there
is so much driftwood in any body

1272
01:38:15.640 --> 01:38:18.319
of water. Yeah, it is
amazing how much wood is just floating around,

1273
01:38:18.439 --> 01:38:21.800
ready to like bump your boat when
you're too busy taking a selfie and

1274
01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:25.840
scare the crap out of you.
Oh that kind of makes sense though,

1275
01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:30.479
because there's a lot of just wood
on the ground, and yeah, it

1276
01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:33.319
would get cleaned up by people and
things, but if it's in the water,

1277
01:38:33.439 --> 01:38:36.680
no one's gonna take it out.
Yeah. Plus, it's like it's

1278
01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:41.479
good for the environment. I'd assume
for the wood to like disintegrate in the

1279
01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:45.199
water and kind of add to the
I don't know, you know what.

1280
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:46.960
I'm not an expert, it sounds
like it would be the thing, like,

1281
01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:49.840
Yeah, I've always been told like
active decomposition is kind of good for

1282
01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:55.199
nature. Sure, so yeah,
so let the wood float around and birds

1283
01:38:55.239 --> 01:38:58.800
can land on it and stuff.
Yeah. In the book The Untold Story

1284
01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:01.720
of Champ by Robert E. Bartholomew, it is further revealed that the original

1285
01:39:01.720 --> 01:39:05.000
photo was sent to Philip Ryan,
is a nautical expert at the State of

1286
01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:10.359
University of New York at Plattsburgh,
so that he could examine and hopefully authenticated.

1287
01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:14.520
Ryan has quickly realized that the two
most vital elements in verifying the photo

1288
01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:17.960
were missing. Sandra Mancy said that
she had thrown away the negative. Oh

1289
01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:23.359
that's not good, and that she
could not locate where she snapped the photo.

1290
01:39:24.119 --> 01:39:27.880
Huh. Oh, that one's real. That's really bad. Huh You

1291
01:39:27.920 --> 01:39:32.800
think you think you wouldn't throw away
the negative and that you'd know where it

1292
01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:35.399
was. In her defense, I
mean, this is an era when you

1293
01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:39.680
would go to a booth in a
mall parking lot and like the hand over

1294
01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:43.920
your film. Yeah, most people
only cared about that piece of paper print

1295
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:45.560
of the photo, but they did
give you back the negative. And you'd

1296
01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:50.960
think that if you get nah,
no, I'll give her that because even

1297
01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:53.880
if she saw it, like,
I don't know if she'd go like,

1298
01:39:53.880 --> 01:39:56.119
oh, man, I got to
make sure I keep the negative. Like

1299
01:39:56.560 --> 01:40:00.279
I feel like you have to be
very into photography to really be aware of

1300
01:40:00.319 --> 01:40:04.319
how important your negative is. Yeah, yeah, but that could just be

1301
01:40:04.439 --> 01:40:11.800
me. But uh, let's see. Without the negative or location, it

1302
01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:15.000
was impossible to determine with any degree
of certainty what was in the photo.

1303
01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:18.960
Possessing the negative would allow the image
to be magnified to see greater detail,

1304
01:40:19.159 --> 01:40:25.279
while knowing the location could reveal important
clues such as the object's size and distance,

1305
01:40:25.840 --> 01:40:30.279
and whether the photo was even taken
on Lake Champlain. Ryan Is could

1306
01:40:30.359 --> 01:40:34.399
not authenticate the photo and the story
behind it led to big questions and potential

1307
01:40:34.439 --> 01:40:41.680
red flags detailed in his book.
Yeah, so now we're going to dive

1308
01:40:41.720 --> 01:40:46.720
into recent reports of CHAMPI. Okay. Champ reportedly can be seen in a

1309
01:40:46.800 --> 01:40:51.720
video taken by fisherman Dick Offelter and
his steps on Pete Bodette in the summer

1310
01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:58.680
of two thousand and five. Close
examination of the images can be interpreted either

1311
01:40:58.720 --> 01:41:02.199
as a head and neck of al
like animal and even an open mouth in

1312
01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:06.960
one frame and a closed mouth in
another, or as a fish or eel.

1313
01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:15.880
Yeah. Although two retired FBI forensic
image analysis analysts who reviewed the tape

1314
01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:20.119
said it a pierce authentic and unmanipulated, one of them added that quote,

1315
01:41:20.199 --> 01:41:24.520
there's no place in there that I
can actually see an animal or any other

1316
01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:29.760
object on the surface. Okay,
so yeah, it's real. But yeah,

1317
01:41:29.880 --> 01:41:32.880
it's a real video, but we
don't know of what. Yeah.

1318
01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:36.359
One piece of evidence, though not
a sighting per se, is the recording

1319
01:41:36.359 --> 01:41:42.199
of sounds within the lake by Fauna
Communications Research Institute in two thousand and three.

1320
01:41:42.760 --> 01:41:46.880
I've heard that recording, Yeah it
sounds like a big creature underwater,

1321
01:41:46.920 --> 01:41:51.359
because the Discovery Channel aired it.
In fact, it mentions it working as

1322
01:41:51.399 --> 01:41:55.720
part of a Discovery Channel program.
The group described the sounds as being similar

1323
01:41:55.760 --> 01:41:59.760
to those produced by beluga whales or
dolphins, neither of which are known to

1324
01:41:59.800 --> 01:42:05.079
live in Lake Champlain. An article
describing the recordings has been published to Scientific

1325
01:42:05.119 --> 01:42:11.520
Literature, explaining that the sounds were
likely a form of echolocation, despite none

1326
01:42:11.560 --> 01:42:18.439
of the known native creatures being able
to echo locate yeah huh. Based upon

1327
01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:25.640
appearance and mysterious alligator like tracks found
near Lake Champlain, cryptozoologist Katie Elizabeth and

1328
01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:30.439
Dennis Hall suggested in twenty sixteen that
Champi could be a member of the family

1329
01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:36.640
crocodiliat crocodile I can never say Crocodila
day, which your crocodile family? Researcher

1330
01:42:36.640 --> 01:42:42.079
Scott Marty's explains that the tracks were
likely the tracks of a large snapping turtle,

1331
01:42:42.079 --> 01:42:45.840
and also mentions the long nose gar
or lake sturgeon as more probable candidates

1332
01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:51.640
for Champi. Yeah, we'll dive
into a little bit more about Champy right

1333
01:42:51.680 --> 01:43:02.800
after this. We're back talking a
little bit more about the Lake Champlain Monster,

1334
01:43:02.920 --> 01:43:08.159
also known as Champy, and it's
the only appropriate name. If you

1335
01:43:08.199 --> 01:43:15.520
call them anything other than Champy,
you suck. Yeah. But I was

1336
01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:17.960
talking about right before when we were
on break, I was talking about how

1337
01:43:18.640 --> 01:43:24.520
in like Lake Huron, the gar
and the sturgeon only get to about six

1338
01:43:24.560 --> 01:43:28.319
to eight feet, right, and
that's a massive body of water. You've

1339
01:43:28.319 --> 01:43:30.119
seen the Great Lakes, right,
or at least a couple of them.

1340
01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:34.560
Yeah, they're amazingly big. They're
like shockingly big. If you didn't know

1341
01:43:34.680 --> 01:43:38.800
where you were, you would think
it was the ocean. Yeah, exactly.

1342
01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:44.159
So it's I've honestly, ever since
I started vacationing in Michigan in the

1343
01:43:44.159 --> 01:43:45.479
winter, I've become really obsessed with
the Great Lakes. I just think they're

1344
01:43:45.479 --> 01:43:50.199
amazing. They're just so beautiful and
big, and I don't know, I

1345
01:43:50.279 --> 01:43:55.640
just I love them, and Lake
Huron and Lake Michigan A is just so

1346
01:43:55.640 --> 01:43:58.680
beautiful. Also, I like being
near them because then that means when I

1347
01:43:58.680 --> 01:44:02.359
go out to eat the seafoods really
really good, get some smelt fresh cotton

1348
01:44:02.439 --> 01:44:08.479
lake. You're on m m M. I love seafood. Okay, leave

1349
01:44:08.479 --> 01:44:10.960
me alone. You're picking on me. I can feel it already. Okay,

1350
01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:15.920
but but yeah, that becomes one
of the big challenges. Is Lake

1351
01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:18.399
Champlain is, you know, nowhere
near the size of a great lake.

1352
01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:26.439
So how can its ecosystem support something
that big? And that's the part that

1353
01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:30.359
when I get to be skeptical about
lake monsters in particular with people, that's

1354
01:44:30.359 --> 01:44:32.840
the part that they kind of roll
their eyes about because like maybe it's coming

1355
01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:38.119
from somewhere else, and I'm like, okay, but it's just that's the

1356
01:44:38.119 --> 01:44:43.319
way ecosystems work. You have big
things that eat smaller things that eat smaller

1357
01:44:43.319 --> 01:44:45.399
things that eat smaller things that eat
really small things. Yeah, you know,

1358
01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:51.600
you go all the way down to
krill. So what would support something

1359
01:44:51.840 --> 01:44:58.159
if you had a creature that was
like one hundred yards long? M how

1360
01:44:58.199 --> 01:45:02.279
would anything be left over? If
because you'd have to have several of them,

1361
01:45:02.319 --> 01:45:06.760
it would eat everything. Yeah,
and it's a contained is ecosystem,

1362
01:45:06.920 --> 01:45:13.199
so yeah, and then the ecosystem
would collapse, everything would die. Yeah.

1363
01:45:13.239 --> 01:45:15.000
So that's the big challenge. Of
course, that could all be solved

1364
01:45:15.039 --> 01:45:18.600
by if it can crawl out of
the water and eat people. Yeah,

1365
01:45:18.640 --> 01:45:26.079
exactly, Yeah, now we figured
it out. Yeah, I mean,

1366
01:45:26.119 --> 01:45:29.479
how many people go missing in Vermont? Actually probably not a lot. Yeah,

1367
01:45:29.640 --> 01:45:32.520
probably not. Listen, I'm in
Vermont. No one wants to find

1368
01:45:32.520 --> 01:45:40.640
me here. So this is a
little piece about the cultural importance to New

1369
01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:45.399
York and Vermont of CHAMPI okay.
The Champ legend has become a revenue generating

1370
01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:47.880
attraction. For example, the village
of Port Henry, New York, has

1371
01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:53.399
erected a giant model of Champ and
holds Champ Day on the first Saturday of

1372
01:45:53.439 --> 01:45:57.880
every August. Well, that's wrong, It's Champy Day. As the mascot

1373
01:45:57.880 --> 01:46:03.279
of Vermont's baseball team, the Vermont
Lake Monsters. All right, they're enjoying

1374
01:46:03.279 --> 01:46:08.760
this a little bit. Yeah.
Champ became more prominent after the team was

1375
01:46:08.800 --> 01:46:13.840
renamed from the Vermont Expos following the
two thousand and five seasons Vermont Expos.

1376
01:46:14.279 --> 01:46:16.800
Yeah, they were just there,
you know, anything they could think of,

1377
01:46:16.840 --> 01:46:19.720
and it wasn't much. What was
their mascot? Was it like a

1378
01:46:19.760 --> 01:46:25.000
convention center? Like so like now
I'm curious, like do I even know

1379
01:46:25.079 --> 01:46:30.560
what expo means because what, how
is that a team expo definition? I

1380
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:34.640
need to know? Yeah, it
just expo means a large exposition, exposition,

1381
01:46:34.960 --> 01:46:41.880
exhibition, So I guess it's just
yeah, and expos is just plural

1382
01:46:41.920 --> 01:46:45.279
of that. That is the worst
team name I've ever heard. It's a

1383
01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:50.039
name that's so bad, like like
you might as well have been the Vermont

1384
01:46:50.159 --> 01:47:00.199
Vermontors at least, that's like yeah
vaguely. Oh Champ has been the primary

1385
01:47:00.239 --> 01:47:04.760
attraction of the former minor league baseball
team since their inception, and continues to

1386
01:47:04.840 --> 01:47:12.680
serve as the future futures collegiate baseball
team's mascot. This mascot version of Champ

1387
01:47:12.680 --> 01:47:17.680
appears as a special guest at various
charitable and other functions throughout Vermont. Several

1388
01:47:17.680 --> 01:47:21.600
nearby establishments, including a car wash, use images of Champ as a logo,

1389
01:47:24.720 --> 01:47:30.960
Oh CHAMPI yeah in two what.
In twenty twenty two, it was

1390
01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:33.520
reported that a feature dramatic film,
Lucy and the Lake Monster was in works

1391
01:47:33.760 --> 01:47:38.680
about a young orphan girl and her
grandmother looking for Champ. The film based

1392
01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:42.359
on a best selling children's novel with
the same title. The production filmed in

1393
01:47:42.399 --> 01:47:46.319
Port Henry, New York and in
various locations around Lake Champlain's Blaga Bay in

1394
01:47:46.399 --> 01:47:49.840
July and August of twenty twenty two. The film was in post production as

1395
01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:53.640
of May twenty twenty three, with
plans to screen in theaters and stream on

1396
01:47:53.680 --> 01:47:58.159
Netflix and other outlets. Huh,
I would watch that movie. That sounds

1397
01:47:58.159 --> 01:48:02.800
fun. Yeah. So lake monsters
have always fastined me also because there are

1398
01:48:02.840 --> 01:48:08.039
so many, like even under the
sea. Also, it says like the

1399
01:48:08.119 --> 01:48:11.399
Lake Tianchi Monster, which was a
name given to a lake in Heaven.

1400
01:48:11.520 --> 01:48:16.920
Uh in Korea. A lake monster
in Korea. Uh, there was mussy

1401
01:48:17.359 --> 01:48:25.239
A, which is a Canadian folklore
monster. Also looks like a a pliosaur.

1402
01:48:26.520 --> 01:48:29.399
Oh, but it's in Muskrat Lake, Ontario. That's such a cool

1403
01:48:29.479 --> 01:48:32.960
name, Muskrat Lake. I want
to go to Muskrat Lake. Yeah,

1404
01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:36.600
well, real quick because we have
a little bit of time on this segment.

1405
01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:47.920
Philadelphia Lake Monster. How many lakes? There's uh art the Naval Yard

1406
01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:53.199
sea Monster. Oh wow, that's
like right in Philly. Yeah, what

1407
01:48:53.239 --> 01:48:57.760
does it just like live in the
Delaware or something or Oh, it's an

1408
01:48:57.800 --> 01:49:00.359
attraction. It's it's the it's these
giant tens coming out of an old abandoned

1409
01:49:00.399 --> 01:49:05.399
naval yard building. Okay, that's
not real. It's an art project.

1410
01:49:06.880 --> 01:49:15.880
Sorry, I was excited for a
second. Yeah we don't have lakes.

1411
01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:20.800
I'm sorry. I was hoping you
guys would have something cool and I was

1412
01:49:20.840 --> 01:49:28.640
mistaken. Yeah, Cressy. There's
so many folkals. This was a monster

1413
01:49:28.680 --> 01:49:33.760
in Crescent Lake. It's called Cressy
in Canada, eel like monster. It

1414
01:49:33.880 --> 01:49:40.079
fascinates me how many lake monsters there
are. Yeah, what are you laughing

1415
01:49:40.119 --> 01:49:43.439
about? Oh? I just touched, just touched Gig's tail and she made

1416
01:49:43.520 --> 01:49:46.600
she made a sound. Oh.
Oh, I've heard of og Pogo.

1417
01:49:46.760 --> 01:49:49.800
Have you heard of og Pogo?
No? Really, Yeah, that's that's

1418
01:49:49.800 --> 01:49:51.239
a name that like I saw and
I was like, oh, yeah,

1419
01:49:51.239 --> 01:49:56.520
I've heard of that one. Uh. It's a Canadian folklore lake monster that's

1420
01:49:56.520 --> 01:50:02.439
supposed to inhabit at inhabit Okanagan Lake, British Columbia. So and they claim

1421
01:50:02.479 --> 01:50:05.720
that it's go it goes all the
way back to First Nations folklore, like

1422
01:50:05.720 --> 01:50:12.119
like hundreds upon maybe thousand years old. Wow, man, there's so many.

1423
01:50:12.880 --> 01:50:15.520
It just makes me wonder. I
mean, I I guess my thought

1424
01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:17.319
is still the same that that it
really comes down to the fact that there

1425
01:50:17.720 --> 01:50:21.800
any body of water has so much
mystery, especially if you're talking one hundred

1426
01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:26.600
years or more ago. Yeah.
Yeah, especially fresh water. I mean

1427
01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:30.199
you can very rarely see through it. You know, it's almost always at

1428
01:50:30.239 --> 01:50:33.319
least basically murky. Yeah, and
as opposed to like, you know,

1429
01:50:33.359 --> 01:50:35.880
if you go to the Bahamas,
you can see like you can see like

1430
01:50:35.880 --> 01:50:41.279
twenty feet down, which is crazy
when the waters are that clear. I

1431
01:50:41.319 --> 01:50:44.000
don't know, because as a person
who's always been a bit afraid of the

1432
01:50:44.039 --> 01:50:46.720
water, I can't lie that,
like even when I'm doing my beloved kayaking

1433
01:50:47.079 --> 01:50:50.319
that when I look at the murky
fresh water I'm kayaking and I kind of

1434
01:50:50.359 --> 01:50:55.399
wonder, like, is there like
a snake right there, or like a

1435
01:50:55.439 --> 01:50:58.680
snap and turtle right there. I
grew up half my time in New Hampshire

1436
01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:01.760
and the snap and turtles were mean
there. Yeah. We used to go

1437
01:51:01.800 --> 01:51:05.560
fishing for salmon and we would do
the thing where you would loop the salmon

1438
01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:09.479
through their gills so you keep them
in the water so they, you know,

1439
01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:14.720
still be alive. Okay, and
sorry, it's what they do.

1440
01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:18.920
Don't act like salmon's not delicious,
you quiet now, But but we would

1441
01:51:18.960 --> 01:51:21.199
always do that, and then there
would always be a snap and turtle that

1442
01:51:21.199 --> 01:51:25.640
would come and try to eat our
salmon. Oh, and then we catch

1443
01:51:25.640 --> 01:51:29.840
the snap and turtle and eat it
too. They are good eating. I'm

1444
01:51:29.840 --> 01:51:34.880
not gonna pretend they're not. Snap
and turtle very tasty. So have you

1445
01:51:34.920 --> 01:51:39.199
never had turtle little? No?
I think I have? Actually, Oh

1446
01:51:39.279 --> 01:51:42.680
yeah, it's good. You like
all that Asian stuff. Asian cultures are

1447
01:51:42.760 --> 01:51:46.000
just like if it's if it floats, it eats, you know, Yeah,

1448
01:51:46.079 --> 01:51:50.680
yeah, okay, yeah, just
say I mean I've eaten. I've

1449
01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:56.279
eaten a whole squid tentacles with you
before. So oh man, I got

1450
01:51:56.319 --> 01:51:58.479
to come and visit just so we
can go to h martin have lunch.

1451
01:51:58.920 --> 01:52:02.520
Yeah, it's so good. Anyway, Is there anything you'd like to give

1452
01:52:02.520 --> 01:52:08.399
across about large bodies of water,
lake monsters, anything like that before we

1453
01:52:08.439 --> 01:52:12.600
go to break and come back and
wrap everything up. No? No,

1454
01:52:12.640 --> 01:52:18.399
oh, well thanks sorry. Do
you think there's any any validity to any

1455
01:52:18.399 --> 01:52:24.119
of these river monsters? Do you
think maybe they're mistaking natural phenomena or there

1456
01:52:24.199 --> 01:52:27.520
is just something really big there that
nobody's seen, or what do you think?

1457
01:52:28.119 --> 01:52:30.159
I mean, I think I think
most of it is just you know,

1458
01:52:32.840 --> 01:52:40.319
just mistaken other things, like probably
some fish or like a tree or

1459
01:52:40.560 --> 01:52:45.079
any like anything, because people just
people are not super smart. And also

1460
01:52:45.279 --> 01:52:51.199
the way our brains work, the
way our brains work is just kind of

1461
01:52:51.239 --> 01:52:58.319
weird, like the way the patterning
thing works that I forgot what it's called

1462
01:52:58.840 --> 01:53:04.399
right now. Like it's so easy
for us to misinterpret stuff, especially when

1463
01:53:04.399 --> 01:53:08.319
we can't see all of it.
So you know, you could see something

1464
01:53:08.319 --> 01:53:10.720
and be like, oh, it's
the back of a monster, and it's

1465
01:53:10.760 --> 01:53:15.079
like just a fish, you know. Sure, yeah, I wish that

1466
01:53:15.119 --> 01:53:18.399
there were monsters in the lakes,
but I don't think so. I know,

1467
01:53:18.439 --> 01:53:23.600
some people have claimed that sea serpents
and stuff were actually schools of fish

1468
01:53:23.960 --> 01:53:27.960
all swimming in Unison making something look
really long. Yeah, and I mean

1469
01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:30.159
I could definitely see that happening.
Sure. So do you think that the

1470
01:53:30.199 --> 01:53:34.279
reason it's so pervasive is because it's
kind of just human nature to kind of

1471
01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:41.760
assume there's something more, something scarier
under the water. I think I think

1472
01:53:41.800 --> 01:53:45.560
we've seen that people just like to
make shit up about everything. So water,

1473
01:53:46.279 --> 01:53:50.239
we've got all sorts of like you
know, cryptids that are on the

1474
01:53:50.359 --> 01:53:55.960
land that no one really can find. It's just another place where things could

1475
01:53:56.000 --> 01:54:00.479
be, you know, well,
and humans we've definitely seen thanks to things

1476
01:54:00.479 --> 01:54:05.000
like dragons. Dragons are in like, nearly every culture has a concept of

1477
01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:09.520
a dragon, even though they may
have never interacted with each other to share

1478
01:54:09.520 --> 01:54:15.199
that concept. Yeah, there are
some things I think that just happen in

1479
01:54:15.239 --> 01:54:18.199
our in our psyche, some things
we just kind of imagine or believe in,

1480
01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:23.920
whether it's dragons, sea serpents,
creature, you know, creatures in

1481
01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:27.640
the woods, giant ape like creatures, because if you when you research sasquatch

1482
01:54:27.680 --> 01:54:30.039
and bigfoot, like, almost every
culture has one. But they're not the

1483
01:54:30.119 --> 01:54:34.000
same. Some of them describe them
as much more like a man, others

1484
01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:38.720
describe them way more as an ape
and not a man at all. It's

1485
01:54:38.800 --> 01:54:43.720
it varies so much, but the
fact that they have the basics the same

1486
01:54:44.560 --> 01:54:49.079
makes it very fascinating, especially when
it comes down to the idea that we're

1487
01:54:49.079 --> 01:54:54.600
talking about times, times and places
that never interacted with each other, yet

1488
01:54:54.600 --> 01:54:58.399
they have very similar stories. Yeah, so who knows, but I do

1489
01:54:58.479 --> 01:55:01.479
know when I first heard about Pogo, I got really fascinated by the idea

1490
01:55:01.520 --> 01:55:06.279
of like it being an ancient Native
American or well Native can Can Well,

1491
01:55:06.319 --> 01:55:13.119
I guess you know North American contest
First Nation. Yeah, it became very

1492
01:55:13.119 --> 01:55:15.279
fascinating to me because they also,
you know, they believe in lots of

1493
01:55:15.279 --> 01:55:20.439
spiritual elements to places. Whether it's
an og pogo would be just an element

1494
01:55:20.479 --> 01:55:26.600
of their concept of revering nature.
So in some cases it could be about

1495
01:55:26.600 --> 01:55:30.439
reverence and in other cases it could
be about fear. So you know,

1496
01:55:30.479 --> 01:55:35.359
obviously in Lockness, nobody thinks NeSSI
is violent and dangerous, because if it

1497
01:55:35.479 --> 01:55:39.520
was, you would have noticed by
now people would be disappearing all the time,

1498
01:55:40.159 --> 01:55:43.039
unless, of course, it's the
Lockness horror, where NeSSI just has

1499
01:55:43.079 --> 01:55:46.520
had enough and is going after everybody, especially people who are making out in

1500
01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:53.279
the woods. That's in the trailer. It attacks a guy and a girl

1501
01:55:53.279 --> 01:55:56.319
like making out by the in the
woods, by the water. It just

1502
01:55:56.399 --> 01:56:00.119
comes out and attacks them. That's
what I would do. That is what

1503
01:56:00.159 --> 01:56:02.439
you would do. I believe that. Yeah, So if you were a

1504
01:56:02.520 --> 01:56:05.039
river or a lake monster, what
would your what would your name be?

1505
01:56:06.279 --> 01:56:14.960
Tom Michelle, That's that's what you're
going with. Yeah, but I'm in

1506
01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:25.079
the water wet Michelle. Yeah,
Okay, Well, I'll remember that in

1507
01:56:25.159 --> 01:56:30.479
case you ever do become a water
faring cryptid. Okay, So we're gonna

1508
01:56:30.479 --> 01:56:32.600
take a break and then we'll come
back and we're gonna talk a little bit

1509
01:56:32.600 --> 01:56:35.680
about some of the horror movies I've
seen in the theater over the last month,

1510
01:56:35.720 --> 01:56:39.439
which is a lot. There have
been a lot of horror movies in

1511
01:56:39.479 --> 01:56:43.199
the theater, and a little bit
more as we wrap up Monthly Spooky.

1512
01:56:43.279 --> 01:56:55.960
So we'll be right back, and
we are back wrapping up this month's edition

1513
01:56:56.680 --> 01:57:06.640
of Monthly Spooky, and I'm here
with Wet Michelle the River Monster. And

1514
01:57:08.199 --> 01:57:12.760
so obviously I've had a lot on
my mind the last few months or the

1515
01:57:12.800 --> 01:57:16.159
last month really well, yeah,
the last few months, and with everything

1516
01:57:16.159 --> 01:57:19.079
that went down, I actually didn't
realize how much I had gone to the

1517
01:57:19.079 --> 01:57:25.600
movie theater until I was writing down
new horror films I've been watching in the

1518
01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:29.800
theater. Also, there are just
a lot of horror movies in the theater

1519
01:57:29.880 --> 01:57:33.720
right now. So I usually,
if we're lucky, I have one,

1520
01:57:34.039 --> 01:57:38.560
maybe two a month, and maybe
one of them was on Netflix or something.

1521
01:57:38.640 --> 01:57:42.159
No, no, no, all
six of these I saw in the

1522
01:57:42.199 --> 01:57:48.039
cinema. Wow. So I'll start
with Immaculate. I saw Immaculate in the

1523
01:57:48.079 --> 01:57:53.520
cinema. That's a film starring Sydney
Sweeney about a young woman who moves to

1524
01:57:53.560 --> 01:58:01.640
Italy to join a nunnery. But
it's specifically a for nuns to take care

1525
01:58:01.680 --> 01:58:06.720
of aging nuns, so it's like
a nun hospice, okay. And while

1526
01:58:06.760 --> 01:58:11.760
she's there, she gets pregnant,
but she's never been with a man,

1527
01:58:13.399 --> 01:58:17.560
and it turns out she may be
carrying the second Coming of Jesus. Yeah,

1528
01:58:17.600 --> 01:58:26.319
that's my biggest fear. That's fair. But I will say so Immaculate

1529
01:58:26.439 --> 01:58:30.640
pretty good. I would not I
would not call it an anti religious story.

1530
01:58:30.680 --> 01:58:33.039
I know a lot of people were
going nuts about how it was like

1531
01:58:33.079 --> 01:58:35.720
so anti religious. I mean,
there are elements of it that are pretty

1532
01:58:35.720 --> 01:58:43.840
harsh, but it's really without spoiling
anything because it's got great twists. It's

1533
01:58:43.880 --> 01:58:46.800
really more of a perversion of religion
story, because like when you find out

1534
01:58:46.800 --> 01:58:49.880
that some people are doing evil stuff, they're not doing it like with the

1535
01:58:49.920 --> 01:58:54.920
Blessing of the Pope. They're doing
it of their own volition because they're fanatics.

1536
01:58:55.840 --> 01:58:59.840
So I just didn't find it particularly
insulting to the religious. But then

1537
01:59:00.039 --> 01:59:02.279
and I'm not religious, So what
do I know? Yeah? Why are

1538
01:59:02.279 --> 01:59:04.720
you scowling at me? Now?
What are you doing? Oh? I

1539
01:59:04.760 --> 01:59:10.000
don't know, what do you know? I don't know anything, but I

1540
01:59:10.119 --> 01:59:13.399
do know that it was It was
good flick. It had some really good

1541
01:59:13.479 --> 01:59:17.920
scares that got to me. If
it's still in the theater, definitely go

1542
01:59:18.000 --> 01:59:21.079
catch it in the theater. But
if it's not, then definitely it's worth

1543
01:59:21.079 --> 01:59:26.399
a rent. Immaculate, super fun, scary, makes you squirm, lots

1544
01:59:26.399 --> 01:59:30.279
of good stuff. And I've often
said this before, but Catholicism is my

1545
01:59:30.560 --> 01:59:35.399
second favorite cinematic universe after Star Trek. Star Trek is first, and then

1546
01:59:35.600 --> 01:59:41.199
Marvel is third, So Catholicism is
right there in number two. So,

1547
01:59:41.960 --> 01:59:47.079
and speaking of there were two none
focused horror films put out at the same

1548
01:59:47.159 --> 01:59:51.880
time. The other one was The
First Omen, which is a prequel to

1549
01:59:51.920 --> 02:00:00.119
the nineteen seventies film The Omen.
I love the Omen film series. Have

1550
02:00:00.199 --> 02:00:02.960
you seen any of them? I
don't think. So that's okay, I

1551
02:00:03.000 --> 02:00:09.159
guess, But do you know what
the Omen is about? Kind of?

1552
02:00:09.560 --> 02:00:14.680
Yeah? Go ahead. So there's
like a kid Damien, I think,

1553
02:00:14.760 --> 02:00:17.760
yeah, it's like a bad kid. Yeah, Well, he's the Antichrist.

1554
02:00:17.880 --> 02:00:23.279
Okay, I thought maybe, but
I couldn't reck those Oh oh man

1555
02:00:23.359 --> 02:00:27.920
nose, oh thos oh, there's
like all this. I love the Omen,

1556
02:00:28.119 --> 02:00:30.399
the Omen and the Exorcists both.
Or when I say, when I'm

1557
02:00:30.479 --> 02:00:36.119
joking about the Catholicism cinematic universe,
like John Landis put it really well,

1558
02:00:36.399 --> 02:00:39.960
the film director, because he said
when he watched The Exorcist, he's an

1559
02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:42.119
atheist. He was like, but
the Excorsis is so good. For two

1560
02:00:42.159 --> 02:00:45.479
hours, I'm Catholic and then when
that movie ends, I'm back to normal.

1561
02:00:45.600 --> 02:00:49.840
So but uh, the first Omen
is a prequel, so it's about

1562
02:00:50.000 --> 02:00:56.479
the fathering of Damien. Okay,
And if you are familiar with the first

1563
02:00:56.960 --> 02:01:00.359
Omen movie, then you know that
Damien is born to a woman and a

1564
02:01:00.479 --> 02:01:05.520
jackal, because that's in a translation
of the Bible about the birth of the

1565
02:01:05.560 --> 02:01:12.800
Antichrist. But I so the Omen. Some people are haters of Omen two

1566
02:01:12.880 --> 02:01:18.199
and three. I love all of
the Omen movies because basically, like the

1567
02:01:18.239 --> 02:01:21.239
idea is that Damien has to be
the Antichrist, which means he has to

1568
02:01:21.279 --> 02:01:27.000
be in a position of power,
so they swap Damien. This is a

1569
02:01:27.039 --> 02:01:30.840
spoiler to a movie from the seventies, they swap Damien with the actual child

1570
02:01:30.920 --> 02:01:35.840
of this married couple who one of
them is the ambassador to Italy of an

1571
02:01:35.960 --> 02:01:40.640
American ambassador to Italy. So they
swap the kid so that the kid is

1572
02:01:40.680 --> 02:01:45.600
born into privilege and power. Okay, And as the films progress, Damien

1573
02:01:45.640 --> 02:01:49.359
gets older and doesn't really know that
he's the anti Christ. He just has

1574
02:01:49.359 --> 02:01:55.359
this hunger for power and this weird
detachment from what's human. And I really

1575
02:01:55.359 --> 02:01:59.680
love those movies. I find them
creepy and scary and awesome, and they

1576
02:01:59.680 --> 02:02:04.239
have a lot to say about not
just Catholicism, but like the general weirdness

1577
02:02:04.279 --> 02:02:11.000
of traditions in Europe. Like there's
one where they go on a fox hunt,

1578
02:02:11.039 --> 02:02:14.880
and I remembered it for my entire
childhood because when the kid came back

1579
02:02:14.920 --> 02:02:18.479
to Damien, the adult Damien,
he rubbed blood on his face and I

1580
02:02:18.600 --> 02:02:20.920
was mortified. As a kid,
I was like, what the hell?

1581
02:02:21.279 --> 02:02:25.039
And then I found out that's what
you do on your first fox hunt.

1582
02:02:25.359 --> 02:02:28.960
Wow in England is they rub the
blood of the first fox you kill on

1583
02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:32.319
your face. That's really nice.
I figured you'd like that. But anyway,

1584
02:02:32.359 --> 02:02:35.600
so the first omen expands on some
of the elements of the later Omen

1585
02:02:35.720 --> 02:02:40.680
series where basically, and this isn't
a huge spoiler, they suggest that there

1586
02:02:40.720 --> 02:02:45.920
are parts of the Catholic Church that, for reasons that are somewhat unknown,

1587
02:02:45.520 --> 02:02:48.800
want the Antichrist to be born and
want the anti Christ to bring about the

1588
02:02:48.800 --> 02:02:56.560
Book of Revelations in order to bring
about because when the Antichrist comes, according

1589
02:02:56.600 --> 02:03:00.000
to their book, then that means
it's time for Jesus to come back,

1590
02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:03.880
can fight the Antichrist and all that
stuff. So basically that's what they in

1591
02:03:03.920 --> 02:03:08.600
the first Omen. They expand on
that concept that there's a sect of Catholicism

1592
02:03:08.640 --> 02:03:14.119
that wants it to happen. Okay, it's a good movie, incredible performances,

1593
02:03:14.119 --> 02:03:16.760
incredible setup, and the funniest part
is I found the first Omen in

1594
02:03:16.800 --> 02:03:19.800
Immaculate to not be very similar to
each other, even though they're both about

1595
02:03:19.960 --> 02:03:25.520
nuns that are pregnant in Italy.
I found them very much not alike,

1596
02:03:26.239 --> 02:03:30.720
Okay, in a good way.
I really enjoyed them so but okay,

1597
02:03:30.760 --> 02:03:32.960
so some other films I saw in
the theater. I saw a film called

1598
02:03:33.039 --> 02:03:39.479
Late Night with the Devil starring David
Malchan and it is a movie that was

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it's a Shutter original that they put
in theaters to test it, and it

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ended up making ten million dollars.
It did super well in the theater.

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02:03:45.439 --> 02:03:49.319
Gat Unfortunately, the better film of
the two Shutter films that went to the

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02:03:49.319 --> 02:03:53.399
theater, I'll be talking about a
minute flopped horribly in the theater, and

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02:03:53.439 --> 02:03:55.840
I'm so mad because it was so
good. But Late Night with the Devil

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02:03:55.880 --> 02:03:59.159
basically, it's a late night talk
show, a fictional late night talk show,

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02:03:59.399 --> 02:04:02.600
and they have a on who's possessed
by a demon and things go haywire.

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02:04:02.840 --> 02:04:06.319
It is super fun. I didn't
love the ending, but I didn't

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02:04:06.359 --> 02:04:10.000
hate it at all. It's just
the ending kept it from being a five

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02:04:10.039 --> 02:04:13.399
star film for me. But it
was still very, very good, super

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02:04:13.399 --> 02:04:15.880
fun. It's streaming on Shutter right
now, but if it's in the theater

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02:04:15.000 --> 02:04:18.479
near you, totally worth going to
see Late Night with the Devil. I

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02:04:18.520 --> 02:04:25.079
really enjoyed it. Next up,
I saw a horror film called Sting.

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02:04:27.439 --> 02:04:31.720
Not to be confused with The Wrestler
or the Singer, but Sting was a

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02:04:31.800 --> 02:04:41.520
film about a deadly spider that's loose
in an apartment complex, and it's from

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02:04:41.560 --> 02:04:44.680
space. They established that right at
the beginning, it's like an alien spider,

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02:04:45.279 --> 02:04:47.520
and so it takes over this apartment
complex. But this little girl catches

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02:04:47.520 --> 02:04:50.239
it in a jar at first and
keeps it as a pet. But it

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02:04:50.359 --> 02:04:56.880
just keeps growing and growing and eating
bigger and bigger things. It's a simple

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02:04:56.960 --> 02:05:00.079
monster movie, one big monster,
very effect if it was a low budget

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02:05:00.079 --> 02:05:05.000
film shot in Australia, but it's
set in America. I thought it was

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02:05:05.039 --> 02:05:10.359
super fun. It wasn't much to
write home about, but like you could,

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02:05:10.680 --> 02:05:14.039
you could spend your evening worse ways
than watching, staying and having a

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02:05:14.039 --> 02:05:16.000
good time. So I really enjoyed
it. It was only in the theater

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02:05:16.079 --> 02:05:18.479
for like a week or two.
It was another super low budget movie they

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02:05:18.479 --> 02:05:21.720
were testing in the cinema and I
was lucky enough to catch it. I

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02:05:21.760 --> 02:05:27.039
really enjoyed it. I'm not used
to having this many movies. Yeah,

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02:05:27.640 --> 02:05:35.359
so I have two left. So
this next one stars Nicholas Cage. It's

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02:05:35.359 --> 02:05:42.359
called Arcadian, and Arcadian was another
Shutter original horror film that they put in

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02:05:42.439 --> 02:05:44.840
theaters just to let it play and
see how it did. It ended up

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02:05:44.840 --> 02:05:47.760
doing just under a million dollars.
I saw this one by myself on a

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02:05:47.880 --> 02:05:51.600
Saturday night because I was at home
feeling kind of depressed, and it's just

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02:05:51.600 --> 02:05:56.159
hard to be home without the dogs
sometimes because I'm just they were so much

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02:05:56.199 --> 02:06:00.159
company to me. So I went
to the movies and saw Arcadie, and

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02:06:00.199 --> 02:06:01.840
because I noticed that it was about
to be taken out of the theater like

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02:06:01.840 --> 02:06:04.560
it was only it only had one
show a day, so I was like,

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02:06:04.600 --> 02:06:09.600
oh, I gotta catch it,
so I went and saw it.

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02:06:09.600 --> 02:06:14.840
It is a post apocalyptic film where
the world has ended and Nicholas Cage right

1637
02:06:14.880 --> 02:06:18.039
as the world has ended and he
survived, he finds these two babies abandoned

1638
02:06:18.079 --> 02:06:21.720
in a building and he takes them
and then it cuts to fifteen years later

1639
02:06:21.880 --> 02:06:27.319
and they're both teenagers and he's their
dad. And one of the things I

1640
02:06:27.359 --> 02:06:31.119
really liked is they didn't post apocalyptic
in a way I had never seen done

1641
02:06:31.199 --> 02:06:36.199
before, where they aren't the only
people. They just know there aren't very

1642
02:06:36.239 --> 02:06:41.199
many people, so like, there's
a farm a half a mile up the

1643
02:06:41.279 --> 02:06:45.600
road that has other people there,
but obviously everybody keeps themselves to some extent,

1644
02:06:45.640 --> 02:06:50.840
and they protect what's theirs because at
night, these unknown monsters come and

1645
02:06:50.920 --> 02:06:55.800
kill you, so you have to
be protected. You have to have your

1646
02:06:55.800 --> 02:07:00.279
home boarded up and ready. But
the thing I really love about this movie,

1647
02:07:00.319 --> 02:07:02.319
and it happens in the first five
minutes so it's not much of a

1648
02:07:02.319 --> 02:07:05.520
spoiler, is one of the sons
who goes to the or the other farm.

1649
02:07:05.560 --> 02:07:08.359
He likes to hang out there because
there's a girl he likes there,

1650
02:07:09.640 --> 02:07:14.119
and they play a game that she
invented called the End of the World in

1651
02:07:14.159 --> 02:07:17.479
ten Seconds, where you have to
explain what you think ended the world in

1652
02:07:17.560 --> 02:07:23.159
ten seconds. Okay, so they
both share their theories, which don't really

1653
02:07:23.159 --> 02:07:27.600
matter because my favorite part is after
they're done giving their theories, you realize,

1654
02:07:27.920 --> 02:07:31.239
how would they know what happened.
There's no news, there's no communication

1655
02:07:31.439 --> 02:07:36.239
with like anybody, so literally everybody
just knows the world ended and some crazy

1656
02:07:36.279 --> 02:07:39.520
shit happened, and now there are
monsters that come after you at night.

1657
02:07:39.560 --> 02:07:42.840
That's all they know. That's really
interesting because that sounds a lot like Tengoku

1658
02:07:42.920 --> 02:07:47.479
Daimachio Jusen Height. I'm assuming that's
an anime or is it a maga.

1659
02:07:47.560 --> 02:07:50.560
It's it it is both. Oh, yeah, it's it's an anime.

1660
02:07:50.640 --> 02:07:55.439
And yeah, the world has basically
ended. There are still people, it's

1661
02:07:55.479 --> 02:07:58.800
just less of them, and there
are monsters, but nobody knows what the

1662
02:07:58.840 --> 02:08:01.479
fuck happened, at least not the
main characters. They just know something happened

1663
02:08:01.479 --> 02:08:03.399
and there are all these theories,
but we don't know what it was.

1664
02:08:03.880 --> 02:08:07.039
And I love that because that would
be the way it is. There's no

1665
02:08:07.159 --> 02:08:09.840
central intelligence, yeah, so you
would just kind of know what you know.

1666
02:08:11.840 --> 02:08:13.840
Yeah. And the other thing I
love is they don't show the monsters

1667
02:08:13.880 --> 02:08:16.960
like much at all. They like
hide them like crazy. And when they

1668
02:08:18.000 --> 02:08:22.880
finally let you get a decent look
at one of the monsters, the way

1669
02:08:22.920 --> 02:08:26.479
they did it was so effective that
I was in the theater by myself going

1670
02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:33.760
holy shit. The way they revealed
how the monsters are okay, because they're

1671
02:08:33.840 --> 02:08:37.479
kind of insecty, which is not
a big spoiler, but not exactly.

1672
02:08:37.119 --> 02:08:43.279
And in my opinion, so the
movie's basically about how like the their kids

1673
02:08:43.279 --> 02:08:46.319
are. The kids are constantly fighting
with each other, even though you know

1674
02:08:46.319 --> 02:08:50.560
they're all they have with each other, because they just don't understand. They

1675
02:08:50.600 --> 02:08:52.720
just don't understand. I don't know
how, you know, Like they don't

1676
02:08:52.760 --> 02:08:56.359
understand that, like their lives are
in danger. They've gotten so used to

1677
02:08:56.439 --> 02:09:01.039
it. And one of the boys
like likes to go out and make friends

1678
02:09:01.079 --> 02:09:03.520
and meet a girl, and the
other one likes to stay inside and think.

1679
02:09:05.399 --> 02:09:07.439
You know, he's more of a
loner. And I identified with that

1680
02:09:07.520 --> 02:09:09.239
kid because that's how I was when
I was a kid. I would just

1681
02:09:09.279 --> 02:09:15.920
stay inside and think and be miserable
and wonder how to stop monsters. So

1682
02:09:16.399 --> 02:09:20.439
I really loved Arcadian. It's probably
long gone for most theaters, so definitely

1683
02:09:20.520 --> 02:09:24.600
keep an eye out for it when
it drops on shutter and for Rent,

1684
02:09:24.000 --> 02:09:28.479
I loved it. I really thought
it was great, and like I left

1685
02:09:28.479 --> 02:09:33.039
the theater so mad that it had
done so poorly in the theater, because

1686
02:09:33.039 --> 02:09:35.600
I was like, that was so
much fun. Luckily, it's not the

1687
02:09:35.640 --> 02:09:37.159
death knell for that movie because it
wasn't made for the theater. It's made

1688
02:09:37.199 --> 02:09:39.520
for streaming, and then they put
it in the theaters, which is one

1689
02:09:39.560 --> 02:09:43.560
of the things I love about digital
projection in cinema is that they can be

1690
02:09:43.560 --> 02:09:46.119
like, hey, let's put this
in like five hundred theaters and just see

1691
02:09:46.560 --> 02:09:48.319
yeah. Yeah. I love that
because any chance I can get to catch

1692
02:09:48.319 --> 02:09:50.319
a movie in the theater, I
will. And I'm gonna end it with

1693
02:09:50.479 --> 02:09:54.840
talking about the most recent horror film
I saw in the theater Abigail, the

1694
02:09:54.880 --> 02:10:01.159
film about the twelve year old Ballerina
vampire. A group of crooks are trapped

1695
02:10:01.199 --> 02:10:05.479
in a mansion that that's locked up
so they can't escape with a twelve year

1696
02:10:05.479 --> 02:10:09.479
old valerina vampire that they thought was
a girl they were kidnapping for a ransom,

1697
02:10:09.520 --> 02:10:13.079
but in reality it's a setup to
feed them to a vampire. Oh

1698
02:10:13.119 --> 02:10:18.399
okay, good. It's from the
same team who did the most recent screen

1699
02:10:18.479 --> 02:10:20.319
movies, but also did a movie
called Ready or Not, which I thought

1700
02:10:20.359 --> 02:10:24.279
was one of the best horror films
I've seen in a really long time.

1701
02:10:24.520 --> 02:10:26.880
Ready or Not is about a woman
who marries into this eccentric family and finds

1702
02:10:26.920 --> 02:10:30.640
out that in order to actually be
a part of the family, you have

1703
02:10:30.720 --> 02:10:35.880
to survive playing a deadly game of
hide and seek. Oh that movie is

1704
02:10:37.039 --> 02:10:41.960
so good. If you've never seen
Ready or Not, watch Ready or Not.

1705
02:10:41.279 --> 02:10:46.279
It is excellent. Abigail was great, but it wasn't. Ready or

1706
02:10:46.359 --> 02:10:50.119
Not was like a five star horror
film. Abigail was like a three and

1707
02:10:50.159 --> 02:10:54.239
a half to me. It wasn't
perfect, but it's full of chaos and

1708
02:10:54.319 --> 02:10:58.760
memorable moments and great characters. You
could do much worse in the theater than

1709
02:10:58.760 --> 02:11:03.840
going and seeing an Abigail. I
really enjoyed it. I think the problem

1710
02:11:03.880 --> 02:11:07.119
with Abigail was that because it took
place in a big house where you're trapped

1711
02:11:07.119 --> 02:11:11.760
and being hunted, it was very
similar to Ready or Not, which hurt

1712
02:11:11.760 --> 02:11:16.119
it because Ready or Not is freaking
amazing okay and basically perfect, and Abigail

1713
02:11:16.199 --> 02:11:20.800
did have flaws and problems. But
one of the reasons Abigail had flaws and

1714
02:11:20.840 --> 02:11:24.039
problems is it was so big.
It had so many amazing moments and crazy

1715
02:11:24.079 --> 02:11:28.800
scenes and outrageous special effects. It's
hard to wrap up a film when it

1716
02:11:28.840 --> 02:11:31.079
goes that crazy. I'm sure you
probably experienced that with anime, where you're

1717
02:11:31.079 --> 02:11:33.479
like, wow, this anime is
so insane, how are they gonna tie

1718
02:11:33.520 --> 02:11:37.720
it up? And sometimes they probably
don't do a good job. Yeah,

1719
02:11:37.800 --> 02:11:41.000
it happens. So I loved it
though. That's the other thing is I'm

1720
02:11:41.000 --> 02:11:43.960
shocked to say all six of those
films I think we're worth watching in the

1721
02:11:43.960 --> 02:11:48.520
theater and paying, you know,
ten or twelve dollars for. So that

1722
02:11:48.680 --> 02:11:50.840
is my horror media. Wow.
I've never had that many movies that I

1723
02:11:50.880 --> 02:11:54.039
saw in the theater. I was
at the theater a lot, and a

1724
02:11:54.039 --> 02:11:56.760
big thanks to my buddy Keith Tomlin
for taking me to the movies like half

1725
02:11:56.800 --> 02:11:58.880
of those times, just to cheer
me up because of everything that was going

1726
02:11:58.920 --> 02:12:03.359
on in my life. So on
that note, we're going to wrap up

1727
02:12:03.399 --> 02:12:07.119
this edition of Monthly Spooky Tell Is
there anything else you want to say before

1728
02:12:07.119 --> 02:12:11.840
we get out of here? No, it's okay, fair enough, you're

1729
02:12:11.880 --> 02:12:13.800
too busy getting ready to be a
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1730
02:12:13.800 --> 02:12:16.359
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You have the final word. Oh I

1750
02:13:28.039 --> 02:13:50.359
thought that was it. That was
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