Monthly Spooky | Screams from UNDER THE BASEMENT, Monster Fish and The Philadelphia Experiment

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Mysterious screams coming from the basement.
Oh wait, no, from beneath the

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basement, catching exotic fish with humanlike
teeth in your own backyard, and a

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naval experiment that may have went horribly
wrong. Get comfort. It's Monthly Spooky.

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Well, my friends, it is
that time of the month, and

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I'm here. I'm Enrique Couto,
here with my good buddy Michelle. Michelle,

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how are you doing. I don't
know. That's a good story and

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I appreciate you. And this is
Monthly Spooky, the kind of month wrap

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up show we do here at Weekly
Spooky where we read some creepy news stories

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and have a fun time. And
I picked a topic for the second month

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in a row that is about your
well not about but it's related to your

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life. That's weird. Well,
yeah, we're gonna be I'm gonna tell

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you now. This is one of
the evil things about me is that I

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almost never let you know what the
topic of the show is going to be

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until we're actually already on the air. Yeah. This week I was inspired

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because I went and saw Oppenheimer,
which I really enjoyed. Thought it was

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a really cool movie. Not a
five star movie, but definitely a four

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star movie. In fact, I
heard the best description of that movie ever,

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which was justin Robert Young on We're
Not Wrong podcast said he said,

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finally a Chris Nolan movie I enjoyed, And I don't have to pretend like

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I understood what it was about by
reading the Wikipedia page, so I agree.

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Like it was not a big confusing
mess like some of Nolan stuff.

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Not saying it's not brilliant, just
saying confusing. But that was all about

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the Manhattan Project, right, yeah, which was where they gathered all the

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scientists and all that. Well,
that made me think about another project.

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No, not the Blair Witch Project, although that would have been cool too.

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No, the Philadelphia Experiment. Oh
you don't know about it, do

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you. I don't know if I
know about it. Well, we'll get

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into it in a little bit,
you know, obviously we got to build

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up to it first. This is
the the four play of the show.

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But Shell, I want to tell
you I have a feeling you're going to

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be very jealous of me today.
I mean probably because I had the delight.

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My birthday's coming up really soon and
it's in September. Well, it's

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soon enough that the BMV was like, hey, you're going to need to

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renew your license. Oh okay,
yeah, I don't. I lost my

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Social Secure card last time I got
a driver's license. Really yeah, I

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don't know how it happened. I
don't know if I, like literally,

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I'll take the blame, but I
don't know if I lost it or the

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people that handled my documentation lost it, because I didn't realize it was gone

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until I had left. And then
when I called and said, do you

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have a Social Security card with Enrique
Kuto on it? They didn't so and

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yet my credit score has only gone
up, so things are probably on the

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up and up. Oh no,
you know what, we should become kindly

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identity thieves, like like we steal
your identity and then we get a Discover

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card and then we put like two
thousand dollars on it, and then we

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pay it off and we just keep
getting the credit limit raised until your fight

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go sCOD goes up thirty five points. That was definitely on some show,

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but I don't know what it was. Well, as a I don't mean

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this to be political at all,
but as a Hispanic American, you really

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want your paperwork, you know,
it just feels like you should look.

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There's something about the the dichotomy of
being like, yes, I would like

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papers. My name is Enrique Kuto, and like really, I'm like,

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sure, is where were you born? Don't say Ecuador, don't say Ecuador,

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don't say e Ecuador. Fuck no, but no. But it's just

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kind of funny, like I'll be
sitting there, I'm like, Okay,

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well I still have my birth certificate
and I don't have to have myself security

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card to get my license renewed.
But they did. I got one of

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those special licenses in Ohio that's like
a national license. Oh, the one

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that I have to get or I'm
not going to be allowed to travel anymore.

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Yep, yeah, pretty much.
Well I got one early. I

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opted in early because they were like, hey, all you have to do

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is bring in like it was like
four identification things instead of two or something.

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But they made it sound like the
next time I renewed, I wouldn't

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need a ton of documentation anymore because
you go through it once. Yeah.

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Yeah, nope, now and I
have to bring like I have to bring

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all four things again. Wow.
And I could bring like a W nine

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or whatever with my Social Security number. On it. But I was like,

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I should. I've been putting off
forever getting a new Social Security card.

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You should get a new Social Security
card. I'm surprised that that hasn't

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happened yet. Well, when I
lost it, you couldn't just order it

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on the internet. Yeah, from
the dark web. Okay, and they're

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only Italian names. I don't want. I don't understand that part. But

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no, uh, you can now
sign up with the Social Security Office and

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they'll mail you one. So that's
what I was. I was doing when

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I was worried I was going to
run late for today's show. Okay,

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is I was. I was signing
everything up and then like punching and all

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the info. Luckily, because I
have that special ID my driver's license made

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it number, made it way easier
to get a new Social Security number.

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Okay, yes, there's that.
Yeah. Yeah, So no, I

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know I put it off because there
was also a part of me that just

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didn't believe I lost it. That
was like, it's in the house.

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It's not sure because I always kept
my Social Security number and my birth certificate

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in the same safe place with each
other, right always, um and yeah,

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so like I and with my passport
and all. That's good stuff.

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So okay, and like a key
that you know you have the other one

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and if we both turn it goodbye
or yeah, oh now I know.

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Now I just want to talk about
that. I don't want to. You

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want to talk about our two keys
to destroy it? Yeah? Nice?

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I like it. No, Um, So I applied. They said I

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should have it in ten to fourteen
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that means I'll have it by December. So yeah, I'm hopeful that

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these are a better agency than the
Copyright Office, probably because I think you.

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I think that, like, this
is a more urgent thing for people.

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So clearly you never needed to show
a copyright notice to the Federal Trade

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or not the Federal Trade divention,
the World Trade Organization. That's the one

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that needed to see it. Yeah, the FTC is cool, but the

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World Trade Organization. Every time I
have a movie that I'm going to sell

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overseas, they're like, okay,
but this time, did you use slavery?

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I'm like no, and they're like, can you prove it? And

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I'm like, oh man, I
wish I was joking. That's one of

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like, that's one of the things
you have to do is you have to

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provide documentation that suggests you did not
use forced labor. Wow. Yeah,

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well, but the documentation is basically
just proved that you operate in America because

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the slavery is legal in America.
So it's not like I don't have to

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like show pictures of people like giving
thumbs up and then photoshop photoshopping the gun

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out of Yeah yeah, just just
highlighting the firearm in AI and saying replaced

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with ice cream cone. Yeah wow, these people really like ice cream.

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Yeah. Yeah, has thirty fingers
on it. So um. But yeah,

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so I got I got a new
one on its way. Good.

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My birthday is September tenth, So
as soon as I get the card,

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I'm just gonna go get a new
license. I'm notorious for doing it way

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early. I'll do it like as
soon as I can. So. Plus

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I know where the good BMV is. Yeah, that's sad that you have

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to go to the your motor vehicle
place to get a license. Um.

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I actually don't know if I have
to go in anymore. To be honest,

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right now, I have to get
all the documentation. I might be

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able to do it online. I
think you probably I mean I would think

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you probably have to do it.
I just mean that I don't have to

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go to my motor vehicle place to
do it. Where do you go,

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like Walgreens? What do you to
the Triple A? Yeah? Yeah,

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yeah, there's a couple of tripleas
and they're just centers for stuff. So

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you go there and no one else
is there? Yeay, because I don't

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know where else is going right there. I'm assuming you have a DMV or

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a BMV. I have some sort
of pen dot thing. Okay, Yeah,

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Pennsylvania is weird. In Ohio,
we have the Bureau of Motor Vehicles,

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so bmb um. I haven't been
to my local one in ten years

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at least because it was always like
an unbelievable line. So then one day

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my mother was like, go to
the BMV in Centerville, Ohio. And

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I was like why and she was
like, you'll see. So I went,

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and not only is there no line, because they do tickets, so

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you take a ticket and then you
get to sit in a comfy chair like

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in like in New Jersey. Yeah, well like in New Jersey anyway,

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No, okay, but it's Ohio. So I was able to sit in

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a comfy chair with a gun.
Okay, that was actually I'm pretty certain

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you cannot have a game, but
that's neither here nor there. But but

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no, So it's just like way
more comfy, and there's not a lot

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of people there because Centerville is not
a very big area, but it's a

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very affluent area. Okay. It's
kind of like when you take your driver's

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test out here. Everybody knows you
go to Xenia to do your driver's test

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because there's no line because it's kind
of the middle of the country. That's

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so weird, that's what we do. It's just weird because it should make

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it busy there if everybody goes there. And that's when I say everybody.

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I mean, like, my mother
made me do it there because she was

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like, it'll be way easier.
Yeah, and she made my sister do

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it there because it would be way
easier. I did. I took driver's

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classes at a BMV, like a
local one where they test people when I

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was when I was seventeen, and
it was really freaking busy there. I'm

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glad I didn't take my test there. Yeah, it was crowded all the

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time. So plus, when you
take a test in like a place like

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Xenia, Ohio is like it's not
like farmland, but it's a it's a

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town surrounded by farmland, you know, like it's a very nice little town

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and people are gonna be like nice
whatever, Okay, whatever, shut up.

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I love I like Zenia. It's
fine. It's like, WELLU won't

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you go to Zenia. I don't
have to prove anything to you. And

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I don't want to go to Zenia
because I don't care to driver's license.

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Leave me alone. Okay, no, but so Zenia, yeah, you

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could go there and get your license. But it's also like it's in the

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middle of nowhere, so like the
parking lot's huge. It's very relaxed,

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like you have tons of room to
drive around during the driving portion of your

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test, you know, like it
just it it was better good. So

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but for all I know, the
BMV near me is is great now,

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but I'm still going to Centerville,
so I think that's fine. Also it's

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a pretty drive good. Centerville is
like my favorite because I would never live

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there because I don't find Centerville that
charming. Like the neighborhoods they're they're fine,

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but they look a little too hoity. Toity to me. Yeah.

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My problem is like if I if
I'm going to have a big, fancy

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house, I don't want to have
a neighbor right next to me. Sure.

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Yeah, yeah, I have a
modest home that I really like.

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And because it's modest and I live
in a modest neighborhood, I don't mind

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that my neighbor is like, you
know, twelve feet away or fifteen feet

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away or whatever it is. Doesn't
bother me because it's like, yeah,

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we all like our little modest houses
and part of that agreement for them being

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modest is that we can see each
other and hear each other. You don't

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have sex or whatever. So it's
a very good system. No. Uh,

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but I'm so glad I don't live
in apartments anymore. But oh man,

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it must be nice not to have
to share a wall with someone.

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Oh yeah, you had a little
mis duplex over here. Sorry it's your

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fault. Yeah, but there's not
like I had the choice. I mean,

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I think your house is really cute
though. Thanks. But also,

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you know, you can hope that
your neighbor will die in an accident and

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then you can buy it. Yeah, I mean I don't want him to

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die. But I hope one day
he will move in a long time when

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I'm financially stable, and I'm to
buy it and turn into some sort of

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studio for I don't know what.
I like that. Yeah, and then

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a knock out a wall so we
can go back and forth. I had

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a friend who owned a duplex in
Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Big duplex. I

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mean, I would say that each
side of it was about the size of

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both of your your house and your
neighbor's house combined. It was really big.

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To be fair to anyone listening,
we're talking about twins semi detached houses.

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Yeah, thank you, sorry home
inspector, But no, I was

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just gonna say. So, she
bought the other side, but it was

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in really rough shape, and like
when I was visiting, she was still

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like, not remodeling it, but
you know, renovating it. So when

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she'd be like, hey, do
you want to go look at the other

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side of the house, and like, okay, And then we would go

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up the stairs where the wall like
met and it had just been like hammered

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out with a sledgehammer. So she'd
be like, just watch the splinters.

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We wearing shoes, you know,
just watch the splinters, and I was

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like, this is ridiculous. I
love it, but it also made me

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not want to share walls with anyone. Well, it took you like six

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minutes to get to get this hole
in the wall. Yeah, it's not

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great. But anyway, I'm in
a very digressive mood apparently. I do

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want to say real quick, huge
thank you to everybody involved in the two

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hundredth episode of Weekly Spooky, including
you, Michelle, who gave your voice

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talents to the episode. Very grateful. If you haven't had a chance to

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listen to the two hundredth episode of
Weekly Spooky yet, please do give it

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a listen. We worked really hard
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It's super fun. That's all so. And unfortunately, before we go to

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a break and then get to the
spooky news, I didn't have a chance

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to make any major changes to the
crypt for you this month. Michelle.

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It's okay, you don't have to
change it every month. Well, I

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had a really bad stomach flu at
the start of the month, so I

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didn't really have time to like work
on it, and then I got really

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inspired this morning. So next time
you're in here, if everything goes properly.

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Every walls piece of wall space will
be covered in social Security cards.

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Wow. Yeah, it turns out
if you just uh, if you just

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hit back and accept again and again
and again and again. I mean it's

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an unlimited social Security card back,
so wow, you can just get so

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many just in case you lose it
again. Just take it off the wall.

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Yeah, I will say I was
pleased that I didn't have to pay

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for it unless they send me a
bill, which would not surprise me at

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all. I hate the government.
All right, so let's stop talking about

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the most mundane things in life and
uh and start talking about some of the

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not mundane things in life. So
right after this break, we'll be back

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with the spooky news. All right, we are back, And do you

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want to do the honors Michelle?
Or do you want me too? Because

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I don't mind if you do,
because I've been doing it a lot.

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Oh you could totally do it.
That's fine, are you sure? Yeah?

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Okay, um, and now it's
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that was better than I could do. Oh, thank you. I mean

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you're good, but I like compliments, so I'm just gonna say thank you.

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So this story, Um, you
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from. Um. Do you want
a right yes or a wrong yes?

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Wrong? Guess it's funnier um um
um. I don't know that was wrong.

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I can't fault you on that.
Dot co dot UK. That's the

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one that should be the monthly spooky
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us, like on microphones. And
then me say, and then all it

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says a voice bubble from me saying
Mirror dot co dot uk. But yeah,

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this one's from Mirror dot cot dot
UK and that says inside abandoned haunted

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house so terrifying, the owner refuses
to step foot in the door. Oh

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that just sounds like a slum lord
to me. But yeah, what were

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you saying? I'm sorry they should
sell it if they're not going to go

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with it. Yeah, really,
well they're not well, or maybe they're

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trying to. All I know is
I've heard of lots of owners of properties

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not ever setting foot there. Yeah. So the owners of a haunted house,

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and it's in quotes said they have
been left so terrified by mysterious screams

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they refuse to step back inside.
Can you imagine someone is screaming for help

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and you're like, Okay, that's
enough for me. Never mind, yeah,

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audiom, No, Like, I
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Like, we're just hearing constant bellowings, dreams. I guess yeah, yeah,

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I mean sounds sounds awful. Um
Alan and Christine Tate said their home

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was hiding a dark secret, as
they'd have been plagued by sinister noises since

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two thousand and eighteen. Okay,
okay, So it wasn't a presidential election

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that caused the screaming. So we're
troubleshooting. We're like eliminating causes as we

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go. Have They tried turning the
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on always first. So in June
of that year, Christine was making a

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coffee in the kitchen at the house
in Ammanford, Carmarthenshire, Carmanthinshire. Yeah,

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I think I'm saying that right,
Karmathinshire, Worcester. Shear sauce.

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But but while she stood over the
kettle, she became convinced she could hear

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strange noises. I wonder if they
sounded like yeah. In the weeks that

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followed, the couple were disturbed by
the sounds of women and children screaming.

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Okay, so it was women and
children, do you think so so far

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we've established at the screaming. Oh
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screaming, heavy knocking, and men
talking in a foreign language. Wow,

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this just sounds like there's a trafficking
ring in your house. Yeah. Yeah,

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wrong, that that's what it sounds
like to me. Or do they

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have any neighbors they're connected to that
have a trafficking ring in their house?

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Yeah? And I'm not seeing any
photos. I haven't shared them with you

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yet, but I haven't seen Okay, there's one outside photo, but like,

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I don't think they share walls.
But I guess we'll see if this

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journalist is worth their weight, you
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better figure that out. So,
yeah, men talking in a foreign language.

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they were Asian, they were speaking
Asian, Like there's just something funny about

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like and a foreign language. It's
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bit more specific, like like a
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you just go with like it reminded
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of German or it was Gibberish or
yeah, yeah, like that would be

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helpful though, Yeah, to just
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like I don't know, maybe kind
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know, or like just something other
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could be talking about like somebody speaking
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like Latin, which should be kind
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was David said he took Latin for
four years in high school, and I

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was like, Okay, speak some
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Although they had lived in the house, Oh Jesus for eleven years, huh

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huh. Within weeks, the couple
left and vowed never to return. Did

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they also vow never to pay their
mortgage? Because then I wonder, I

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have so many questions because like if
I heard people screaming and then yelling at

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people who were screaming in a different
language, or really in any language in

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my house, my first thought would
be, Okay, what the fuck?

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And then maybe I have to call
the police or something like what's going on?

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Yeah? My first instinct would be
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not a printer, because I learned
from you it was just one time my

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printer. In my defense, my
printer is always within like six feet of

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me in my office. Yeah,
I usually work and it does go off

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randomly and scare be quite a bit. I can't tell you how many times

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I've been sitting here doing like Weekly
Spooky and I'm like, as he opened

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the door, he realizes, and
I'm liked, fine, I'll start over.

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People don't realize, or maybe maybe
they do, and that's why they

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like it that when they're listening to
Weekly Spooky, they're listening to a thirty

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soon to be thirty seven year old
man sitting in a dark room with a

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microphone scaring himself. That's all it
is. I am. I am the

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same as I was when I was
seven. I just read reading spooky stories,

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going O scary anyway, that should
be I should I should save that

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clip. That should be like a
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Now, yeah scary. I like
that. Actually, the couple who moved

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into a camper van set up,
Why are you waking a face like that?

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I'm just getting annoyed at these people. It's fine. They moved into

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a camper van set up recording devices
around the house to investigate the noises.

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Quote. It was like a flushing
noise that I heard first, Christine told

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whales Online. Quote. I told
quote, I told Alan about it and

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that I couldn't figure out where it
was coming from. He left his phone

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in the bathroom with the recorder on
to try to pick up the source of

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the noise, and then we could
hear a machine running. We started to

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record all over the house and we
picked up sounds of chains, a motorbike

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starting, and people screaming. So, okay, so motorbike might be outside,

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that's one I mean usually they are. Yeah. Also yeah, like

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why would it be in your house? Also, like any you're hearing like

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weird flushing motor running things, you
need to contact someone to take a look

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at what's going on with your plumbing
stuff. This is weird. I don't

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like. This makes me sad.
You should become like, instead of a

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paranormal investigator, you should be a
paranormal home inspector. Like, yeah,

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what what you do is fly all
over the world and inspecting haunted houses.

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But then when people say like,
okay, so how do I get rid

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of the demon? You're like,
oh, I don't know it, but

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I will tell you that your foundation, it's it's doing fine. But like

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i'd have a structural engineer look at
it just to be sure. You just

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write them a regular report. No, I really want to do that.

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How do I get people to let
me do that? I think it would

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start with like a Patreon. You
definitely have to make videos out of it.

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That's the only way that it is
totally. You're just writing a report.

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Yeah, so, um, good
news. The blood coming out of

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the walls not related to the plumbing. So honestly, I mean, if

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you can keep that cleaned up,
it's the sheet rock seems in good shape.

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I don't know how long that'll last, but right now it's really looking

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pretty good. Um, the wiring, you know, I would switch to

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circuit breakers, but that's really personal
preference. I'm just making things I've never

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home inspected before. But you're a
home inspector, what would you? Okay,

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So, like, say you're inspecting
a house that like the walls bleed.

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So that's a problem because you don't
want you don't want humidity in your

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house, and moisture and flood is
mostly water, I guess, so when

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it rise up, it's gonna like
leave. It's you know, like there's

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gonna be more moisture in the air. So first you want to get a

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dehumidifier for the blood. And then
and you also like gotta like make sure

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it's wiped up too, because you
don't want it to affect the wallpaper or

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the sheet rock or whatever it's on. And then you know, so there's

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that um. The screaming is definitely
the pipes. Pipes don't usually scream like

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that though, so you want to
get a plumber out to see why they're

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making that noise. Oh, and
your whole house is filled with carbon monoxide

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and you're all gonna die tomorrow.
So I just I just imagine the plumber

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walking m m ding ding ding.
He's just knocking on the pipe and then

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here's like ooh. He's like,
yeah, your manes are clogged, Like

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really the mains clog sounds like people
screaming for help. He's like, yeah,

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if they were yelling I was murdered, then that's usually something else.

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But if it's just help ash,
the man's yeah, that's a pretty good

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deal to get them to stop screaming. Oh my god. Since becoming a

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homeowner in October, I really like
it's it's funny because, like I've realized,

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I make a lot more jokes about
owning houses, and a lot more

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of my older friends laugh at them. And that's when I realized, Oh,

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it's trauma bonding. We're all bonded
by the abusive relationship we have with

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our property. The dates both sixty
two soon realized the noises were subterranean and

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appeared to be coming from underneath the
basement that sits below the kitchen. They

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even got police. They even got
police round who round who couldn't find the

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source of the noise. But we
found it. It it's underneath the kitchen.

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I guess they mean the specific source, like like they were like,

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it's coming from under here, but
we don't know like what it is.

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I mean, you don't want to
excavate under your foundation because you might upset

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the footings and cost structure problems.
But someone needs to find out if there's

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like a cavity down there or something's
going on, if they literally have people

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being like kept somewhere under their house
that need help. But no one wants

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to help them because they think that
they're ghosts. I mean that is you

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know, that is like the perfect
cover up for a human trafficking ring.

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Like oh, this house is just
super haunted. Yeah. Yeah. If

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people say all kinds of are,
like oh the walls are bleeding, or

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I see an image in the window, or I you know, bring in

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eighty five women every night and they
never leave. It's all just a bunch

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of weirdness, you know, just
odd, super weird. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, totally odd. All the
ghosts, it's all the ghosts.

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But Alan was not deterred. He
dug two one point five meter channels into

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the walls and put recording equipment inside. Okay, fine, like just recording

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equipment because like you could get something
that like you can see in the walls,

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like yeah, yeah yeah, and
they're not expensive anymore either. I

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mean, if you want a good
one, they are, but yeah,

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but I mean you could always get
like the the nine dollars one on Amazon

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that like the app you download definitely
steals your identity, and that could be

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a good start, you know.
Yea, Like this is how I'm going

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to figure out, you know,
if I need an expert Oh what he

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found, he said, was horrifying. What what did he find from?

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Quote a woman screaming, sexual sounds, dogs barking, a motorbike, and

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a car horn. Okay, so
we got that the motor bank and the

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car horn are definitely outside. Very
likely, I would say, so we

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can take those out. The chilling
noises amounted to hundreds of hours of recordings.

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Do you know you do? Are
you familiar with the story of the

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Amityville horror Um? I guess well, A lot of people believe that the

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Lutzes, who who the book was
about, you know, a book based

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on true story or a true account. A lot of people believe what a

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lot of people believe that that what
really happened, it was the Letzes bought

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a house they couldn't really afford,
so they were trying to come up with

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a reason to leave and ditch it
and not you know, be heavily penalized.

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And that then it turned into a
cash cow because of the book and

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then the movie. I have to
admit that doesn't sound outrageous, like stress

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from a mortgage you can't afford is
really really unpleasant. Yeah, you know

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so, and it was a giant
beautiful house on a like little water space

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and anyway, um, I wouldn't
be shocked. M The couple accumulated hundreds

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of hours of recordings of the different
sounds, all of which they claimed were

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coming from beneath their house. Oh
goodness, even especially the car horn.

408
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:53.319
The pair now travel around the UK, warning others about their ordeal and trying

409
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:59.359
to spread word about what is going
on in Ammanford. What the fucking but

410
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:04.279
I'm so confused, Like, I'm
so confused. I want to mention I'm

411
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.440
proud of the fact that it only
took us a year to just not care

412
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.200
about no swearing at all, not
to try it. No, I'm fine

413
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.440
with it. Shit so quote.
Hundreds of people have been in touch with

414
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.759
us and agreed that this needs to
be properly looked at, said Alan.

415
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.559
All I really want is an explanation. Why are there people screaming? There

416
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.640
must be something going on. We
have placed microphones all over the place because

417
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:36.000
we wanted we wanted to prove or
disprove what we were hearing. Were these

418
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:41.119
noises coming from the main road,
were they coming from a park. We

419
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.000
put microphones at the front of the
house, at the back of the house

420
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.440
inside and out and in the basement. The device we left in the basement

421
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.440
picked up the screaming and other noises. The other devices, which were recording

422
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.519
simultaneously at the front and back of
the property, picked up nothing at all.

423
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.519
I will say, so, I
there are a couple of pictures of

424
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:07.319
the property. I'm gonna show these
two. Um, it doesn't look like

425
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:13.920
a great place to live. I
mean they must have been remodeling, because

426
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:16.799
there's just a toilet with no anything. Oh, there's just a toilet there,

427
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.599
but it looks like it looks like
an abandoned house. Maybe it's that's

428
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:27.119
the basement, and so maybe it
is. There's a washer and dryer.

429
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.000
There's no caption on the picture to
tell me what I'm looking at, but

430
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:35.319
thank god, it says image by
Robert Mellon. Yeah, thank you.

431
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.960
What about that other one down there? Oh, we'll get to it once

432
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:43.240
you just relax. Jeezus. Quote
we put microphones at the front. I

433
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:45.839
read that. Um, the device
we left in the basement picked up the

434
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:47.960
screaming and other Okay, I said
the two. The couple sent Whales Online

435
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.640
a key to the house, but
warned reporters would be entering the property at

436
00:32:52.680 --> 00:33:00.200
their own risk. Technically that's always
true, Like, Okay, you can

437
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.880
walk in here, but it's at
your own risk. Yeah. Also,

438
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.480
they didn't say anything bad ever happened
to them in the house. Yeah,

439
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:14.359
no, other than being freaked out. Yeah, but we'll see. Despite,

440
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:19.240
oh god, despite being in a
busy town center, the property is

441
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:25.200
hidden down a narrow and lonely alleyway. The street is filled with shops and

442
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:30.160
other commercial properties, bar one empty
building next door that is up for sale.

443
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:38.079
The kitchen sits directly above the now
sealed off basement. So the basement

444
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:43.720
is now sealed off because they're so
scared of it, I guess. So

445
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:49.720
Yeah, if I hear things people
screaming, I'm gonna go. Okay,

446
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:55.400
let's just close them in there.
Good luck. Breathe and jerks. The

447
00:33:55.559 --> 00:34:00.680
kitchen sits directly above the now sealed
off basement. There is no access to

448
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.480
the underground space other than down a
small hole with nine feet of darkness below

449
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:10.159
it. So here's the kitchen,
and it's this place is in really bad

450
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:14.840
shape. Yeah, I mean you
can see. I mean it's not.

451
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:16.599
I mean, I know, there's
like clutter everywhere, but it's also not

452
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:21.679
taking care of tons of water stains
on the ceiling. Yeah, and that

453
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.440
back wall, like the it looks
like it's been torn up really bad.

454
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.800
But like the regular walls and ceiling, yeah, they're all like really spotted

455
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.880
and bad looking. Yeah, and
that says this is the kitchen above the

456
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:38.199
basement. Okay, So yeah,
I like how the way that they describe

457
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:40.239
it. They're like, you know, we just left and never returned.

458
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:45.519
It's like, well, it looks
like you are using it for storage space.

459
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.800
Yeah, it doesn't look like you
never returned. There are like organized

460
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.960
containers full of what I would assumes
your belongings. Or maybe it's just of

461
00:34:53.039 --> 00:35:00.360
all the recordings of the screen.
Maybe maybe. Although the journalists left a

462
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.000
recording device at the edge of the
hole for several hours, the only sound

463
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:08.719
picked up was them leaving the property. Yeah. However, the tates who

464
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:14.039
recorded inside the walls of the basement
rather than above a hole in its ceiling

465
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:19.400
are adamant something is going on and
have set up a petition to demand authorities

466
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:25.079
investigate further. Okay, so I
will say that leant lends some credence.

467
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.880
They're not saying like we want money. They're not saying like necessarily buy our

468
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:35.719
book or whatever. But they are
they all they do want the police to

469
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.039
investigate. Yeah, that sounds a
little bit more legitimate. Yeah, because

470
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:43.519
I mean why, I mean,
unless they're just crazy, why would they

471
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:47.199
want the police to investigate and not
find anything? You know. They claimed

472
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:52.760
police were ignoring their concerns and that
quote this matter needs an urgent, full

473
00:35:52.840 --> 00:36:00.280
investigation. The die Fed powas Man, England's weird Police, confirmed it had

474
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.880
received correspondence from Alan and officers attended
the area in November of last year.

475
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.599
They did not find evidence of wrongdoing, but the Tates believed there were men,

476
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:13.559
women and children living, sleeping and
working underneath the house. Okay,

477
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:16.519
so they okay, yeah, so
they don't they think what we were thinking,

478
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:21.199
Yeah, which is that if what
they're saying is true, then it's

479
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:24.639
something really way scarier than ghosts.
Yeah. And we did just say that

480
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:30.079
there's a building that's not currently occupied
next door and they have basements, so

481
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:36.039
it's not it's not out of the
realm of possibility that they dug further,

482
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.119
or that they're hearing from a nextdoor
property, yeah, or that they share

483
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:43.039
a wall and they don't know it
because they've never been in that commercial property,

484
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.559
share a wall in the basement.
Yeah, exactly. Just never know

485
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:49.960
with stuff like that. Yeah,
yeah, I need to By the way,

486
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.440
I need to make you watch the
movie Barbarians since it has homeowner jokes

487
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.239
in it. Okay, I think
I need to make you watch that.

488
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.760
A guy finds like terrifying tunnels that
are clearly for torture under his house,

489
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.119
and the first thought he has is
he googles if he can add that to

490
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:09.559
the square footage of the house.
You can't know because it's unfinished space.

491
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.679
No, well that's what he finds
out. But so he starts measuring it.

492
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:15.000
But it's just so funny because he's
like thinking, like he finds out

493
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.280
you're allowed to list it as a
bonus, you know, like you can

494
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.960
say how much unfinished space you have. So he like is measuring it,

495
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:27.320
but like it's so clearly a terrifying
place, but he's just so excited about

496
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.239
the prospect that his house is going
to be worth more, you'd like it,

497
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:35.559
And then it gets really messed up. Anyway, Alan believed that there

498
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:39.400
were quite quote quite a lot of
people down there and is concerned it could

499
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:45.440
be connected to people trafficking as well
as drug manufacturing. Okay, now I

500
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:47.599
get why they left the house.
They think that, Like, yeah,

501
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.679
they think there's like human and drug
trafficking going on. I would also leave

502
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:54.920
the house. I would also leave
the house too. I mean actually,

503
00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:00.360
after you know, listening to you
read this, actually think they've done everything

504
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.480
they possibly can do, I mean, besides get a borroscope, which they

505
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.440
really should do. Yeah, but
at the same time, the police should

506
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.119
be should care a little bit.
Yeah, I mean, which makes me

507
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:15.039
worry that these small town cops are
like just they know some some stuff they

508
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:19.840
just aren't supposed to look into.
Maybe it's Europe, man, I know,

509
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:22.159
people, we have a lot of
European listeners. I just found out,

510
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.199
like we have a lot of English
listeners, especially your country's bad.

511
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:29.639
I don't know, no, no, but I mean it's just yeah,

512
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:31.960
it's scary. It's really scary.
And I don't blame this couple. Oh,

513
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.079
this is one of the first times
we ever read an article and it

514
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.559
got more reasonable. Yeah as we
read it, Like now I've on this

515
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:42.360
couple's side, Like why isn't someone
investigat Like the only thing is, see

516
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.599
if this was in America, it'd
be like, well, if the cops

517
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.039
aren't gonna do nothing, get some
buddies over with shotguns. You bust down

518
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.920
some walls we find out. But
you know, since they're in England,

519
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.920
it's like it's like I have a
pairing knife. I'll fight you human TRAFFICA

520
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.880
come on, tali fo. Anyway, I apologize to our UK listeners and

521
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:08.639
Sweet and Sweet Patreon backers who I've
now made quit. The couple refused to

522
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:13.880
turn to Ammanford and said they were
feel fearful for their own safety. They

523
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:16.119
would not say where in the UK
they currently live, and did not want

524
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:21.320
photographs of themselves in the press.
Okay, this does not sound at all

525
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:23.840
like what I assumed. Yeah,
and also now I get the going around

526
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:29.920
the country thing. Yeah. Quote, we're traveling around the country handing out

527
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:35.119
posters and flyers about what we think
is going on, said Alan. And

528
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:42.079
here's a image of the exterior of
the house. Oh, it isn't really

529
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:44.840
bad shape, and it does look
like there's a house. I mean,

530
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.760
if I'm understanding this picture correctly,
they're very close to other houses, they're

531
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.360
like on top of them. But
that lends credence to what they're afraid of

532
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:57.239
Yeah, exactly, exactly. Quote. We want as many people as possible

533
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.280
to know about this so that the
police are urged to carry out a more

534
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:04.119
thorough investigation. Quote. We don't
want to go back until the matter has

535
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.719
been resolved. I think we're dealing
with a serious criminal gang here, and

536
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.280
I think our lives could be in
danger if they knew we were who we

537
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:15.920
are, where we were. Wow. That article is actually great. Yeah.

538
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:20.480
Wow, I really feel for them, me too, and possibly the

539
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:24.440
people who are being kept maybe against
their will. Yeah, those people too.

540
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.639
Yeah, we're going to take a
quick break and then we'll be back

541
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:43.519
with even more spooky news. And
we're back with even more spooky news.

542
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:50.360
That last story was legitimately I think, maybe too spooky. Yeah, so

543
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.079
in all seriousness, I know we
talked about that topic a lot, but

544
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:58.039
real quick on the break, we
listen to a little bit of one of

545
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:02.679
the recordings. If they faked it, they worked really hard to think.

546
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:13.320
Yeah, it absolutely sounds like people
are doing bad things nearby. Yeah,

547
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.360
you creep me out so much.
I sent you the link. I was

548
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.039
like, you can look at this
on your own if you want. I'm

549
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:22.920
I'm tired. I can't want to
look at it anymore. Um, but

550
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:28.719
if you're if you want to be
terrified, hashtag ammin Ford screams, A

551
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:32.519
mm A n Ford f O r
D screams. If you do a hashtag

552
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:38.079
of that on Twitter, Instagram,
YouTube, you will regret it. So,

553
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:45.199
but now we're going to go to
something a little bit less awful.

554
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:50.400
Maybe. Yeah, honestly that that
article really took us place as we were

555
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:52.719
not expecting in any way, shape
or form. We are going to check

556
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:59.440
out this article from NPR, your
favorite place in the world, and it

557
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:04.639
says a record breaking Burmese python as
long as a giraffe t is tall,

558
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:09.360
was caught in Florida. I knew
it was going to be Florida. Well,

559
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:13.119
when I saw the article, I
assumed it was just going to simply

560
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:16.599
not be America. Oh okay,
so when it said Florida, I was

561
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:22.000
like, huh um so, and
I'll show you a picture. Sadly it

562
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:28.239
is dead. No, oh,
it's really dead. Yeah. I don't

563
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:30.679
know that long they might have killed. Did you say it's not that long?

564
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:37.920
It's nineteen feet long. It's like
just some two guys and some slack.

565
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:42.039
I don't know that's almost four of
you standing. No, that is

566
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.199
four of you if you're standing on
your shoulders, because you lose like a

567
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.159
little bit of light, it's like
four of you standing on your shoulders.

568
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:54.280
I guess. Fine, Well,
I found this interesting because Florida never ceases

569
00:42:54.320 --> 00:43:00.639
to amaze for so many reasons.
It really it really, it really doesn't.

570
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:01.960
I remember I used to back in
the day when the Adam Corolla Show

571
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:04.880
first started, they had that thing
where it was like you had to guess

572
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.039
is it Germany or Florida. They'd
read you an article about something best up

573
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:12.920
and you had to guess, and
it was not easy. A nineteen foot

574
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.599
Burmese python the longest ever recorded.
Okay, so not just in America,

575
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:24.239
but ever. Wow, that surprises
me, but also makes me wonder if

576
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:30.719
Disney created it, they'd do all
kinds of stuff in Florida. Florida,

577
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:37.239
Florida because there's an o R.
It's not Florida, Okay, I mean,

578
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:40.599
I don't think English has the kind
of rules you think it has.

579
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:49.280
A right was caught by local hunters
in South Florida's Big Cypress National Preserve this

580
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:52.719
week. To put the catch into
perspective, the snake is as long as

581
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:59.360
an adult giraffe is tall. Yeah. I don't have a giraffe nearby so

582
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:01.639
that I can see that, but
okay, Yeah, like they need to

583
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:07.400
tell us how many Arianda grandees tall. Yeah, that gives us good perspective.

584
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:13.280
Yeah, Americans will do anything to
avoid the metric system. It was

585
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.440
caught on Monday by twenty two year
old Jake while Rie, who brought the

586
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:21.960
python to the Conservancy of Southwest Florida
and his hometown of Naples. The Conservancy

587
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.480
said officials there measured the snake at
nineteen feet and one hundred and twenty five

588
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:32.840
pounds wow, and said it set
a new world record for that is your

589
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.320
ultimate move at a bar talking to
girls. Yeah, I set a new

590
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:44.159
world record for length. And then
they like pepper spray you. Yeah.

591
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:52.480
You're like, oh fair, Yeah. And then you have like a photo

592
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:54.559
of it your pockets. You're like, hold on, I'll show you reaching

593
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:58.920
your pockets. Pepper spray you even
more. Yeah. It just keeps going

594
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:04.760
worse and worse. A video a
video of Vlari's record breaking catch on Instagram

595
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.880
shows the python lunging at Will Larry
as he pulls the snake onto the road.

596
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:14.039
By its tail. Wow. Well, Larry and the and the snake

597
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.960
wrestled on the ground until others joined
in to help peel the snake off of

598
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:24.679
the hunter. Wow. Oh,
and this might help the reason that they

599
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:30.800
killed it is that pythons are an
invasive species in Florida. I knew that.

600
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:34.320
That's why when you said python,
I was and I that's why I

601
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.280
said, Oh, I thought it
would probably be Florida or whatever. I

602
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.039
said, Yeah, they're a problem. Yeah. Well, now I don't

603
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:44.760
feel quite as bad. I can
appreciate that invasive species need to go,

604
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:50.079
you know. Um, yeah,
apparently the state permits residence to humanely catch

605
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:54.599
and kill the snakes to prevent them
from wreaking havoc on the ecosystem killing people.

606
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:59.800
Probably that one could kill somebody,
Yeah, I mean I probably wouldn't,

607
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:04.760
but it could fully capable. Yeah. Also, like, never mind,

608
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:06.920
now that I've heard this part of
the story and the Instagram video,

609
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:08.199
No, I think you could pick
up chicks at a bar with that.

610
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:15.079
So anyway, I wrestled a nineteen
foot long python. It's like, Aha,

611
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:19.599
oh my god, is that Instagram? Yeah, babe, that's me.

612
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:23.519
Sure other people had to help me, so I didn't die. Hey,

613
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:28.079
that's toxic masculinity to say that you
have to do it by yourself.

614
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:31.920
That's true. No, he accepts
help. He is sensitive. Yeah,

615
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:38.519
now go have anonymous sex with him. Bras pythons are one of the largest

616
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:43.840
snakes on the planet. They're also
an invasive invasive species, running rampant through

617
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:47.360
much of southern Florida. They're wreaking
havoc on the state's native animal populations because

618
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:53.760
pythons have no natural predators in Florida
until now, No, which is why

619
00:46:53.840 --> 00:47:00.280
Will Larry spends his nights hunting these
monstrous predators. Wow, that's actually that's

620
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:05.840
good. That's that's being a conservationalist
though, Like I mean, yeah,

621
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:08.360
it's in a hunting way. But
but like he literally spends his free time

622
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:14.599
like trying to catch and kill invasive
species. That's good for Florida. Yeah,

623
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:19.920
like those people in Florida that have
businesses where they kill and they trap

624
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:25.679
um um. No, I was
right, iguanas. Oh are they invasive?

625
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.280
Yes, I just know they're there
a lot. They're not supposed to

626
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:37.679
be there, and they're good eating. They have salmonella, so does chicken.

627
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:43.119
That's why you cook it. Yeah, but no, no, like

628
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:47.719
they like just they like mess up
foundations and like digg and stuff and they

629
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:52.880
give everyone salmonella. They're really bad. And then they fall out of trees

630
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:58.960
because they get too cold. I
have heard about them falling out of trees

631
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:01.599
because they get cold, and apparently
not being dead, they're just they're just

632
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:10.400
like suspended. Yeah crazy, Um, let's see quote. It's awesome to

633
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:14.639
be able to make an impact on
South Florida's environment, he said in the

634
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:17.079
news release. We love this ecosystem
and try to preserve it as much as

635
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:22.920
possible. The previous record was set
in twenty and twenty by a python caught

636
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:27.719
in the Everglades, stretching eighteen feet
and nine inches and weighing one hundred and

637
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:34.599
four pounds one pathetic. Yeah.
The record for the heaviest Burmese python ever

638
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.880
captured was set by one caught by
the Conservancy in June of twenty and twenty

639
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:44.039
two at a rapet whopping two hundred
and fifteen pounds. Wow. How how

640
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.000
like long was it? Though apparently
not more than eighteen feet and nine inches

641
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:51.599
because it wasn't a world record?
Yeah, according to the Florida Fish and

642
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:55.679
Wildlife Conservation commission. These pythons pose
such a big threat that hunters and residents

643
00:48:55.719 --> 00:49:00.159
alike don't need a permit to kill
them. The reptiles are, how ever,

644
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:05.599
protected by anti cruelty laws, which
require hunters to humanely kill the snakes

645
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:10.119
so they can't torture them. Okay, you sound so disappointed. I don't

646
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:13.360
know. You're just like, look, if you're gonna go all the way,

647
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:15.800
go all the way, exactly,
You're gonna kill it anyway, doesn't

648
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:22.679
matter how you kill it, it's
exactly. Oh gosh, this is getting

649
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:29.320
so dark, so quick. Burmese
python's feast on Florida wildlife big and small,

650
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.320
from rabbits and house pets to foxes
and white tailed deer. Oh no,

651
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:35.920
well that makes sense. I mean, if they're that big, yeah,

652
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.639
they'd eat a deer. And one
Instagram clip from twenty and twenty two

653
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:46.559
shows Florida scientists removing a five foot
long alligator from an eighteen foot python during

654
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:52.840
a necrops. A necropsy so like
it ate a five foot long alligator?

655
00:49:53.159 --> 00:50:00.079
Wow, yeah, they need to
go. That's a alligators like. Alligators

656
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:06.920
are so deadly creatures and so perfectly
deadly that they haven't like changed in millions

657
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:12.519
of years, and the pythons are
just like all that's not okay. I

658
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.639
can't I can't appreciate that. Yeah, makes sense though, why they wouldn't

659
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.679
be able to escape because their their
mouths are so weak when they're closed,

660
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.599
like to open, you know,
like the muscles to open their jaws are

661
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:24.519
so weak. That's why you can
tape their mouth shut. Oh. I

662
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:28.920
thought we just had really strong tea. No, it's because all of the

663
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.800
pressure is on the closing, the
snapping shut, so they just aren't that

664
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:36.880
strong to open. Oh, so
you really don't need you can use electrical

665
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:43.239
tape. I mean, for all
I care. The state hosts an annual

666
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:47.119
competition, the Florida Python Challenge,
that just sounds like like dudes who want

667
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:52.280
to have muscles like all Coogan the
Python Challenge. Brother, say your prayers,

668
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:57.480
take your vitamins and freaking juice your
boys, and I'm in a goofy

669
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.960
mood today. Good for everybody,
I guess. The Florida Python Challenge and

670
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:06.519
efforts to keep the populations at bay. The competition attracts professional hunters and amateurs

671
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:10.480
alike, competing for the prize for
prize money ranging from one thousand to ten

672
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:20.199
thousand dollars. Wow, yeah,
so what do you what do you think?

673
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:23.559
Are you? Are you like I
imagine you like I imagine you like

674
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:30.000
putting on a headband and being like
time to go to Florid, Like just

675
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:34.159
like all like knives attached to every
body part. You're just like, let's

676
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.440
go. I mean, what could
you do with What would you do with

677
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:40.519
ten thousand dollars if you won the
Florida Python Challenge? I don't know,

678
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:47.559
probably not too much. Like just
pay for stuff. I really do appreciate

679
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.599
the thought you put into that.
Yeah, well you know, really I

680
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:57.320
would just pay for stuff. Oh
you just just pay for whatever? Yeah,

681
00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:04.719
like I don't know, put it
in savings. Okay, Well,

682
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:12.920
now that we've had a story about
invasive species, let's talk about wanted like

683
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:17.199
species you want in your neighborhoods in
towns. I've been wanting to cover this

684
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:23.039
since I first heard about it.
This story is from the Dayton Daily News,

685
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:30.400
oh my home newspaper. I live
in Dayton, Ohio, the Paris

686
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:35.719
of Ohio, and it's all about
I'm wearing the T shirt. It's all

687
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:39.880
about a giant werewolf, but not
like you think. Okay, So the

688
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:46.159
article's title is giant werewolf twelve foot
skeleton. Cities rarely police outsized yard displays.

689
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:51.840
Yeah, there's a reason why this
is so awesome. It's not just

690
00:52:52.119 --> 00:53:00.199
because I love Halloween and werewolves.
I also hate meddling governments. So this

691
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:05.000
just ticks. And it's in Piqua, Ohio, which is literally not even

692
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.039
half an hour from me. It's
it's the Dayton area. Like like my

693
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:10.079
buddy Dave, who I do a
podcast with, he lives in Troy,

694
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:14.559
which is only like seven or mar
eight minutes from Piqua. Like you know,

695
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:16.000
so I have friends who live I
used to do wrestling shows in Pickwa.

696
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:21.559
They have a really nice National Guard
armory. So city of Piqua said

697
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:27.159
we're removing werewolf statue would be quote
neighborly thing to do after complaint, but

698
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:32.920
didn't pursue further good. Good.
The twelve foot tall skeleton the towers over

699
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.719
the Miami's Burg yard of Cindy White
and Jason Thurman is a Halloween decoration,

700
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.559
but the couple have left him in
the yard and dress him up for all

701
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:45.079
holidays. The gigantic figure, which
the couple has named Frank has been up

702
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:50.360
for almost a year and is part
of a growing trend of giant, year

703
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:57.519
round decorations in people's yards. Yeah. That trend has led some to question

704
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:01.000
what people can and cannot put up
on their private property, whether it be

705
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:06.199
a giant skeleton or, as is
the case at a Piqua home, a

706
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:13.159
ten foot tall decorated werewolf. Yeah, so what do you think you?

707
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:15.800
I mean, you like you're fest
if you like to decorate for holidays,

708
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:20.000
Yeah, at least the two big
ones, Halloween and Christmas. Yeah right,

709
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.199
you don't decorate for any other holidays, do you not? Really?

710
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:28.480
You don't like, you don't like
paint everything red, white and blue around

711
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:31.920
fourth of July or like I only
did that one year and then I was

712
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:36.559
like, oh man, I gotta
paint everything back now, or like or

713
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:39.760
like try to put up brown lights
for November, for um, for Thanksgiving

714
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:45.079
and then realize there isn't no such
thing as brown. That's mean there has

715
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:49.519
to be such things as brown.
I don't want to talk about this again.

716
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:55.719
I'm pretty sure it's just orange that
lacks saturation. No, this is

717
00:54:55.840 --> 00:55:00.559
like the greatest rift of our friendship. Is the bait about if brown exists,

718
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:09.480
it does not. Um Uh,
the trend is okay U quote.

719
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:13.079
I feel like it's your yard.
You should be able to put whatever you

720
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:15.800
want, as long as it's not
obscene or causing problems. White said,

721
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.519
well, first of all, I
think if it's obscene, that's okay too.

722
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:23.519
But I am a nightmare. Quote. My skeleton doesn't cause any problem,

723
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:27.559
neither just mine. Sometimes it does. Sometimes I wake up in the

724
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.400
morning, real rickety Uh, he's
been Christmas Frank, Valentine's Frank, and

725
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:35.280
now he's Summer Frank. Yeah,
fell over right before Easter, so he

726
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:38.599
didn't get to be the Easter Bunny
this year. Same Frank. I get

727
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:43.039
it. Oh you want to see
a picture of Frank. I'm sure sure.

728
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:49.039
Let me my computers acting a little
funny. Oh, where is that?

729
00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:55.880
Okay, here we go. So
that's that's Frank, the giant skeleton.

730
00:55:57.079 --> 00:55:59.400
I like how he's almost as tall
up to the set. He's up

731
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:01.639
to almost to the roof on a
two story house. Yeah, that's so

732
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:07.239
cool, White said. Neighbors and
city residents welcome Frank because he brings them

733
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:13.199
joy. Quote. We put him
on our Facebook chat page for the city

734
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:15.920
and he has one or he has
eleven hundred likes in twenty four hours,

735
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:21.880
with hundreds of comments of how everyone
loves Frank. She said they can't wait

736
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.880
to see what he's dressed up like
next. He doesn't distract anybody. I

737
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:29.159
mean people pull over and take pictures
of him and tell us great job.

738
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:34.960
But it's not causing an issue.
Miamisburg City planner Andrew Rodney said that to

739
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:38.719
his knowledge, there is nothing specific
in Ohio law that pertains to yard decorations

740
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:45.159
on private property. Quote. Locally, the city does not specifically regulate yard

741
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.639
decorations unless they contain a vulgar or
obscene message, or they create a hazard

742
00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:52.760
within or adjacent to the public property
or the public right of way. Rodney

743
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:58.360
said there is also no limitation on
holiday decorations, provided they do not contain

744
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:02.280
a commercial message. That's weird.
Why can't it contain a commercial message?

745
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:07.360
You can't put up like a like
a pepsi sign. Yeah, like Christmas

746
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:10.960
is better with pepsi. Yeah,
that's I'm putting that sign on my yard.

747
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:16.519
They could, they could pry it
from my cold dead hands. Then

748
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:21.480
he finished the quote. He said
residents generally have the freedom to decorate their

749
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:28.199
yard or home as they wish.
Rodney cautioned that some neighborhoods have homeowners associations,

750
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:34.719
covenants and restrictions that may prevent some
forms of quote personal expression, but

751
00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:38.840
those regulations are enforced by the HOA
and not the city. Yeah you I

752
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:42.599
know you don't have an h o
A. Yeah, thank good. I

753
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:45.840
do not either. There was a
time when they were trying to establish one

754
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:50.719
in my neighborhood. Why because some
people don't know how to watch TV or

755
00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:54.840
get laid. Oh that's I'm assuming. It just sounds I mean, even

756
00:57:54.920 --> 00:58:00.239
if you don't get laid, it
just sounds like a bad idea. It's

757
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:04.800
just like I really want everyone to
be angry at me. Yeah, totally.

758
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.679
Residents may feel the decorations of a
neighbor are quote distasteful or tacky,

759
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:15.760
but that is simply not simply that's
simply not something that is or can be

760
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:20.719
regulated by a local government. Nope, only federal. You have to vote

761
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:23.599
for the right president if you want
this fix pick. So here's where we

762
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:30.920
talk about Phil Pickwe resident Mary Simmons
has a nearly ten foot tall werewolf standing

763
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:34.480
in her front yard. She calls
him Phil, and by now, Phil

764
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.159
is known to a lot of people. He's on Facebook, Phil the Wolf

765
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:42.599
five hundred and other social media,
with reports featuring him posted from locations as

766
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:46.960
far as the United Kingdom. Wow
Star Trek Star George Takai even paid tribute

767
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:51.559
to Phil earlier this week, tweeting, liken or not, it's here to

768
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:58.320
stay. That makes me so happy, because, first of all, I

769
00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:01.599
mean, the only thing better than
standing up to like local tyrants. I

770
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:05.440
know, I know, I know, I'm nuts, but local tyrants is

771
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:09.000
doing it in a fun way,
fun and expressive way. Yeah. So

772
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:15.679
yeah, and there's Phil. He's
super big. Look at that. Yeah,

773
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:20.440
I love him. The Pickwa City
code compliance staff informed the owner earlier

774
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.840
this month that a complaint was received
and suggested the neighborly thing to do would

775
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:30.599
be to remove the display, and
said Brittany Pelter, city public relations slash

776
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:35.559
special events coordinator. And I'm assuming
person who just you know, couldn't get

777
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:37.320
a better job. I know,
I'm mean, I'm mean to the government.

778
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:44.079
Oh cry about it. Quote.
The owner stated she would not be

779
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:49.199
removing the display. That's why this
t shirt it literally says Phil come and

780
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.800
take me, isn't that great.
Yeah, and it's from a local print

781
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:57.079
shop, so it's like, it's
so cool Now I had I bought one

782
00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:02.360
for me and for Rachel come and
take me. Um. She said she

783
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:08.360
would not be removing the display.
Chris Schmising Schmising Pick was Community and Economic

784
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:14.000
Development director. Quote. The code
official explained there is no code violation prompting

785
01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:17.360
enforcement action, and it is the
owner's prerogative as to whether the display remains.

786
01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:29.559
Yeah. So my only concern about
that is that it may make people

787
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:35.119
make a code in the future.
Yeah, but usually when you when you

788
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:38.880
draw attention to something, usually that
I mean, it would depend but you're

789
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:42.599
not wrong. That could happen.
But but I think it's going to be

790
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:45.119
more likely it's going to make people
demand that this stay the same because everybody

791
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:50.599
likes this. Yeah. No,
I and I agree. But I could

792
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:53.119
just see them in like five years, quietly passing something. Oh, it

793
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:58.960
won't be quiet, not with Phil
howling at the moon. Yeah, I

794
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:01.800
love Phil. They won't even tell
Phil about it, They're just do it.

795
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:06.039
Yeah. Yeah, governments are like
that. That's why we have to

796
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:09.119
stay frosty and keep a giant werewolf
on our lawn. Whenever possible. Yeah,

797
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:15.000
city code enforcement would be needed if
a decorative item was quote a public

798
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:20.960
safety concern, Schmising said. Simmons
wrote on Facebook that she is dressing Phil

799
01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:24.119
for various holidays and plans to continue
to do so. This week, he

800
01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:28.880
was holding an American flag and wearing
a flag themed shirt because Flag Day had

801
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:31.159
just passed an Independence Day was around
the corner. This articles from June.

802
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:36.800
White said she doesn't see a reason
why anyone would get worked up over a

803
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:40.679
decoration that is supposed to be joyful. Yeah. Quote, nobody tells anybody

804
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.199
to take down their pink flamingo yard
decorations or their Christmas lights that have been

805
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:50.440
on their house for seven months.
I take umbrage to that. Why so,

806
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:52.519
why is a skeleton or a werewolf
any different than that? She said.

807
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:58.440
To date, Miami'sburg property maintenance inspectors
have not had direct interaction with White

808
01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:02.480
or Thurman over their yard decoration.
Rodney said, quote upon receiving a complaint,

809
01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:08.440
our inspectors investigated the complaint the complaint
to determine if a violation was present,

810
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:14.320
he said, having not directly observed
any vulgar or obscene messages nor any

811
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:17.360
danger to the public right of way. The matter was closed without further action.

812
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:24.360
Yeah, shall not be infringed.
Yeah, well so, I because

813
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.280
one of the things. So I
don't have a giant thing in my yard

814
01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:32.920
yet that could be a thing any
day now we you know me, it's

815
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.400
very likely to be a thing.
But but, and that's a big butt.

816
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:45.159
I keep my Christmas lights up all
your own and people will think that

817
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:49.559
it's an accident or that I'm lazy. I mean, I am lazy,

818
01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:54.920
but I I it's on purpose.
I love Christmas lights. And and during

819
01:02:55.000 --> 01:03:00.840
the during twenty twenty, during lockdown, I started I put my lights up

820
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:06.800
and turn them on as like a
celebration of like hope. And no one

821
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:10.199
has said anything except my sweet neighbor
across the street who wrote me a thank

822
01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:16.880
you note. Yeah, which was
the nicest thing ever. She wrote me

823
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:20.280
a thank you note and said that
every time she looks over at my house

824
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:25.159
as Christmas lights it makes her smile. Yeah. I have programmable lights too,

825
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:30.480
so I actually can like set them. They have settings for Halloween,

826
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:32.519
they have settings for Thanksgiving, they
have settings for the Fourth of July,

827
01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.199
so I'll often set it to those
as well. And I will say,

828
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:42.760
off season, I only have them
on about three hours after sunset because I

829
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:44.840
just don't want to. I don't
want to wear out the lights and I

830
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:47.079
don't want to use a ton of
electricity. But you know, but then

831
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:51.199
once Christmas time comes, I have
them on from duskill dawn because I just

832
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:53.639
I love Christmas so much. But
yeah, one day somebody was like,

833
01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:59.960
because I used to leave my Christmas
tree up really late because I'm lazy,

834
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:01.440
and somebody had said, like,
why do you do that? I was

835
01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:03.599
like, well, sometimes I do
like to turn it on and enjoy it,

836
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:06.119
you know, at not Christmas time. And they were like huh,

837
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:09.719
And then I was like, wait
a second. So now I just will

838
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:13.400
never take my Christmas tree out either. I love my Christmas tree. I

839
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:16.039
love Christmas, I love celebrating,
I love lights. If I'm feel if

840
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:19.639
I'm having a really bad day,
I will literally say, Alexa, turn

841
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:24.719
on Christmas tree and then I will
light up a cigar and I will listen

842
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:34.519
to some music and I'm proud of
my home. Good so I have I

843
01:04:34.639 --> 01:04:39.840
mean, I don't have any issue
with that at all, Like it's whatever

844
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:45.280
you want to do is fine.
But but no, But the reason that

845
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:47.239
I don't have mine up all year
and I don't have my Christmas tree up

846
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:50.880
all year vis it was it was
dying, so it can't be it was

847
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:56.119
a fire hazard. Yeah, my
fake. Yeah, But the reason is

848
01:04:56.199 --> 01:04:59.880
that, like I really like those
things, and I get a lot of

849
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.599
joy out of just having them for
a certain amount of time and then like

850
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:06.079
getting excited for the next time.
No, and I appreciate that very much.

851
01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:10.840
So yeah, for me, my
least favorite part of Christmas is putting

852
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:14.760
up the decorations. My favorite part
is appreciating them. Oh that's like personal

853
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:15.639
preference. Yeah, yeah, I
think a lot of people do. I

854
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:19.199
don't. Actually, I don't really
like that either, but I'm I'm a

855
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:25.519
I'm a deferred gratification delay gratification type
person. So like that's fine with me.

856
01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:28.599
I'm just gonna do it and then
you get the good stuff I do

857
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:31.079
at Christmas. I put up way
more decorations, though I only really leave

858
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:33.440
up the light and a few other
things, Like I don't leave like the

859
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:39.920
yard displays and stuff up all year. And although it'll be like the size

860
01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:43.519
of a Charlie Brown tree, this
year, I'm putting a pine tree in

861
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:46.000
my front yard. Yeah, and
when it gets big enough, I'm putting

862
01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:51.719
lights in it. Yeah. Anyway, I am a loser. Everyone knew

863
01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:55.800
it though, because they listen to
me tell scary stories every week. But

864
01:05:55.920 --> 01:06:00.480
I love what I do. And
if anybody tries to harsh people mellow,

865
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:04.800
I cannot stand that crap. It
is their home. Let them enjoy it.

866
01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:08.960
We'll talk about this a smidge moore
and get some more spooky news after

867
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:20.159
this quick break from and a word
from our sponsors, and we are back.

868
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:25.480
I want to mention because we were
we were digging into people meddling in

869
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:30.800
your home, Michelle, you have
a beautiful home. I mean that because

870
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:33.960
you moved in and it was not
a bad place, but you moved in

871
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:38.360
and really made it yours. You
painted it in a like a very beautiful

872
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:42.800
color scheme. And when I was
growing up, there was a house in

873
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:47.559
West Carrollton still there that is like
a very light shade of purple, and

874
01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:53.159
apparently they had to fight tons of
battles to keep it purple, and then

875
01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:56.760
when they won, they were like, well, it'll never not be purple

876
01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:59.760
because f you. Yeah, And
I was like, man, I love

877
01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:04.119
that though, like a big old
house and it's purple. Yeah, you

878
01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:06.239
know, I am. I am
gonna one of these days, I'm going

879
01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:13.119
to either paint my front door red
or orange, okay, because I I've

880
01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:16.079
always thought orange doors are awesome.
Yeah, like they're very eye catching.

881
01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:20.519
Yeah they are, because they're unusual, I would suppose. But no,

882
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:25.960
uh, have you ever had any
incident where you live with decoration? I

883
01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:30.519
mean where or where you've ever lived? I mean no, oh you mean

884
01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:35.639
like from yeah, my house?
Yeah. No. When I lived in

885
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:43.880
Plainsborough growing up, the neighbors,
new neighbors across the street painted part of

886
01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:48.760
their house purple. Oh, and
every hated it, um but like it

887
01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:54.800
it's it's you know, like you're
allowed to hate things. But they know,

888
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:58.000
like nobody did anything about it.
They were just like like painted it

889
01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:03.119
purple, like two shade to purple. So at least it wasn't fifty shades

890
01:08:03.679 --> 01:08:08.519
of purple. That would be really
interesting. Actually yeah, it would be.

891
01:08:08.719 --> 01:08:11.599
Man, now you're making me really
want Like, now, this whole

892
01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:15.400
conversation made me really want to take
my front door off and sand it up

893
01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:18.319
and paint it. Do it because
it's actually I mean, the doors in

894
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:24.279
good shape, but it's you know, it needs it needs a repaint someday.

895
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:28.800
Anyway, if if it makes you
feel better, you don't probably have

896
01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:31.920
to take it off. So I
would prefer to take it off because well,

897
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:34.800
because the door has been like the
way it is for like twenty some

898
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:39.560
years, I want to take it
off and like really detailed, like clean

899
01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:43.640
and sand it and then paint it
really nice and like seal it super well.

900
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:47.520
And by that I mean get my
buddy Keith to mostly do it while

901
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:50.800
I thank him and buy him General
Sow's chicken. The best thing in my

902
01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:55.359
life is that the Chinese restaurant by
me has really good General Sows. Keith

903
01:08:55.479 --> 01:08:58.640
is Keith is like an expert woodworker, and he has done so much work

904
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:01.760
for me in exchange for going to
General to get General stoves together. So

905
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:05.680
anyway, we have two more stories
for you this week or this month.

906
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:12.840
This one from NPR again your favorite. An eleven year old boy caught a

907
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:20.000
fish with human like teeth in an
Oklahoma pond. Yay, and I here

908
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:27.239
take a look at this. Oh
he does have human like teeth. Is

909
01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:31.119
that it's a pacu apparently, which
is a relative of the piranha. Wow.

910
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:36.880
But in it was caught in a
neighborhood pond in Oklahoma. Do you

911
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:40.720
think somebody had it as a pet
and dumped it or something. No,

912
01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:45.239
I just think it lives there with
its teeth. I mean paku. When

913
01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:46.680
I hear the term the name paku, I'm like, oh, well that's

914
01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:53.520
Oklahoman. So yeah, that's definitely
Oklahoman. Jannat Clinton was sitting on her

915
01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:57.720
back porch watching her son, Charlie
eleven, fish in a pond behind their

916
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:01.680
house in Oklahoma this past weekend when
he suddenly started yelling for her. He

917
01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:06.159
was screaming, oh my god,
Mom, Oh my god. Told NPR

918
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:10.399
quote, I thought he was just
being dramatic. To be honest, she

919
01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:15.600
added, gosh, what is she
my mom? I can't blame my mom

920
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:18.520
for being like I thought you were
being dramatic because I was such a dramatic

921
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:21.720
child. Were you dramatic? I
feel like you were dramatic? Right?

922
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:25.720
Um? Yeah, I guess Well
we have a similar well, yours as

923
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:29.439
much more extreme than mine. We
have a similar story because you hurt your

924
01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:32.039
shoulder or broke you broke your arm, right, yeah, And they thought

925
01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:38.319
you were just like whining because you're
a whining no, because I always cry

926
01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:44.000
all the time when anything happens.
See my story, And I'll never let

927
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:45.720
my mother live this one down is
she used to cut my hair because my

928
01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:48.600
mother went to beauty school for a
year, so when I was really young,

929
01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:50.479
she cut my hair. It was
like, why would I waste the

930
01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:55.439
money on your haircuts? They're not
even complex. So she would do my

931
01:10:55.560 --> 01:11:00.880
hair buzz it stuff. And one
time when she was doing I wanted long

932
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:03.560
hair, but my mom wasn't.
It's interesting. She wasn't like, you

933
01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:08.159
can't have long hair because that's a
girl thing. She was like, you

934
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:12.199
don't want long hair at this age
because it is a lot of work to

935
01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:15.239
keep and maintain. She would that's
the way she would explain to me.

936
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:17.520
She'd be like, if your hair
is long, you're gonna have to spend

937
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:20.039
way more time washing it. You're
gonna have to use way more shampoo.

938
01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:23.520
So she was like, why don't
we just go with something else. So,

939
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:25.760
of course, me being a reasonable
child, I was like, well,

940
01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:27.600
if I can't have long hair,
I just want to have hair that

941
01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:31.479
looks like mister Spock from Star Trek
Man. My mom, God love her.

942
01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:34.720
She's just like all right, have
fun on your school bus with her

943
01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:39.760
spark haircut. Rest in peace.
You know my mom. My mom loved

944
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:41.800
me quite a bit, but no, so she was buzzing my hair and

945
01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:44.159
I did used to get annoyed when
she wanted to cut my hair. I'd

946
01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:45.359
be like, I don't want to. Well, one time she was buzzing

947
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:48.000
my hair and I was going oh, and she was like, oh,

948
01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:50.840
calm down, It'll be over in
a second. And I'm like, ah,

949
01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:56.319
Mom's like it's fine, it's fine. Gosh. She keep in finally

950
01:11:56.359 --> 01:11:59.000
like ooh, and I got out
of the chair and like went away,

951
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:01.680
and she was like, what is
your problem? And then she looked at

952
01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:06.000
the buzzers and realized the blade wasn't
moving, it was buzzing. So she

953
01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:11.279
was just like ripping, ripping little
strands of hair right out of my head.

954
01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:17.560
But because I was such a dramatic
child, I still don't bring I

955
01:12:17.680 --> 01:12:20.680
brought that up and we had lunch
a couple of weeks ago. It's just

956
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:25.279
like, how many times can I
be sorry? And I was like,

957
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:34.159
it's so funny, mom, anyway, Okay, Then she got a close

958
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:40.760
look at Charlie's alarmingly weird catch quote. Obviously being in a being in a

959
01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:44.479
neighborhood pond. We're used to just
catching a few bass or catfish, she

960
01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:53.920
said, I mean nothing, I
mean nothing with human like teeth. That's

961
01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:57.680
quite a sentence. I love it. It turned out that Charlie had landed

962
01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:01.239
a paku, a fish that's a
cousin of the piranha or paranya as I

963
01:13:01.399 --> 01:13:06.039
like to say, okay, and
whose outsized teeth have long struck fear in

964
01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:13.359
swimmers. The pacu is a native
of South America, but this one was

965
01:13:13.439 --> 01:13:16.920
swimming in a small, plump pond
in the Clinton suburb north of Oklahoma City.

966
01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:23.840
Wow, that does sound strange.
I think it's fine. Also,

967
01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:26.960
like if they if they're known for
like biting people, that's nervous, the

968
01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:30.359
nervousness that it's like in a little
pond in a neighborhood. Did they say

969
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:33.640
they bite people? Out um?
It said? Oh wait, maybe maybe

970
01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:38.560
I got confused by their wording because
they said it's it's like a cousin of

971
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:43.039
our pane and whose outsized teeth or
if struck fear in swimmers. I guess

972
01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:47.600
they're referring to piranha and not they
could be referring to that. But they

973
01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:50.880
didn't say that they bite swimmers.
They just said they were scared of them.

974
01:13:54.800 --> 01:14:00.600
Um, so paku can totally bite
you, but they're not generally aggressive

975
01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:03.199
though, So that I mean,
like, but if, but like,

976
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:11.800
you should think about not swimming with
paku. Okay, especially if you're not

977
01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:15.680
like from South America. That's what
I just pulled it up on National Geographic

978
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:19.640
Um. Also, it's known when
it does attack humans, it's known for

979
01:14:19.720 --> 01:14:26.039
attacking testicles yay. In fact,
in some areas they refer to it as

980
01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:30.920
the testicle eating paku. Wow.
I love the show because it's educational.

981
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:39.479
Yeah. Um, yet yet another
reason why I don't like water. Like

982
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:43.079
being in water, I'll boat all
day long. I'll get in a kayak

983
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:45.880
and spend the whole day out there. But uh, it's like between the

984
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:48.000
brain eating and me, but which
I know you and I are both afraid

985
01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:53.279
of the brain eating. Everybody else
makes fun of me. Um. I

986
01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:56.720
do do this thing where if I'm
watching a movie with a friend and somebody

987
01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:59.880
jumps into like a pond or a
lake and their head submergim is like,

988
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:04.920
uh yeah, Meanwhile, people are
listening to going like what a bunch of

989
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:09.680
cry babies, a pond swoman's fun. I'll tell that to your testicles.

990
01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:15.039
Um uh, let's see he's quote. He said it put up a heck

991
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:17.640
of a fight. Janet told NPR, saying her son reeled the fish in.

992
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:21.560
On his own quote, he was
the only one down there fishing,

993
01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:26.560
and he did a great job.
Did you ever go fishing as a kid,

994
01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:30.760
Not at all. No. I
shouldn't be surprised because you're a coastal

995
01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:36.279
elite. But no. But what
were you saying from I'm from New York

996
01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:42.279
City? Like where to fish?
I mean, I guess there's no ocean

997
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:47.119
or lakes or rivers or My family
is inner inner city people. They don't

998
01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:54.039
fish. The only fishing we do
is for compliments. Nice hair by the

999
01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:59.439
way. Um no, So,
growing up, my dad lived in New

1000
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:04.039
Hampshire and he's very into like manly
things. But he never was a big

1001
01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:09.399
hunter. He was a big fisher. You love to fish, And that

1002
01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:11.760
was the number one thing we would
do when I'd visit him in the summer

1003
01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:15.359
is we had a little pond that
he knew about that was like way out

1004
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:19.640
in the middle of nowhere called Horseshoe
pond and only we went there dozens of

1005
01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:24.720
times and only once was there another
person there. But it was full of

1006
01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:28.960
bass and blue gill, which bluegill. If anybody's ever fished, they know

1007
01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:31.680
bluegill are. They breed super fast, they're super easy to catch, and

1008
01:16:31.880 --> 01:16:36.840
they are horrible eating, so so
so they're perfect for little kids to fish

1009
01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:40.119
though, because they're easy to catch, so you can learn how to fish.

1010
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:42.319
It's just but every time you catch
it, you'd be like ah,

1011
01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:43.720
and you Da would be like,
no, it's a blue gill. Though,

1012
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:45.319
we gotta throw it back because if
we caught like a really big bass,

1013
01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:47.560
you'd be like, all right,
this is dinner. Like usually we'd

1014
01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:51.000
throw everything back, but if he
caught like a big bass or a big

1015
01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:54.520
catfish, it was like, all
right, this is dinner then. Or

1016
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:59.079
one time a very big snap and
turtle. Wow, well the snap and

1017
01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:00.439
turtle was so big. I remem
my dad. I don't have a lot

1018
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:03.159
of nice things to say about my
father, but he did. He saw

1019
01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:06.119
how big that snapping turtle was that
we caught that we were starting to reel

1020
01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:08.920
in, and he was like,
yeah, that thing is way too big

1021
01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:11.640
for this pond. Like that's not
good for the environment here. So he

1022
01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:14.560
pulled it out and knocked it unconscious
and put it in the back of his

1023
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:18.960
truck and then we ate it,
yay with our bare hands. Good.

1024
01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:24.760
No, No, it was it's
actually twisted. Like I watch there's a

1025
01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:29.439
movie called Cannibal Holocaust and has a
real turtle being killed in it and eaton

1026
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:32.600
and it's disturbing. But like I
just kind of shrugged because like I'd seen

1027
01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:35.720
it in person when I was like
seven. Yeah, so I was like,

1028
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:38.319
I mean, it's gross, don't
get me wrong. Like I was

1029
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:40.039
like, eh, but I wasn't
surprised because like, no, I know

1030
01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:44.680
what happens when you pulled the shell
off a turtle. Like, but snapping

1031
01:17:44.720 --> 01:17:48.159
turtles are mean. Well, you'd
be mean too. Somebody's pulled you out

1032
01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:54.119
of your home and they were going
to kill you. That's not true.

1033
01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:57.720
I'm very nice when people do that. Oh okay, I'm sorry, it's

1034
01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:00.479
okay. You just you just got
a little emotional there for a second.

1035
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:01.680
Yeah. No, no, snap
and turls that they are, they're very

1036
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:08.279
aggressive. Yeah yeah, so but
yeah, that was but I just remember

1037
01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:11.560
that, like we would catch little
things like little turtles little snakes or whatever.

1038
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:13.720
My dad would just like throw it
back, you know, let's get

1039
01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:15.359
it back out there. But when
we would catch like a really big snap

1040
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:18.880
and trol's liken, this one's this
one's for food, like it's too big,

1041
01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:25.960
can't live here. Also, turtle
is delicious. It's like chicken and

1042
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:32.159
fish had a baby. Very good. Turtle and frog super good. I'm

1043
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:39.680
so hungry, all right, Sorry
about that. That was quite a digression.

1044
01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:44.079
The Clintons posted a photo of the
unusual fish to their neighborhood Facebook page

1045
01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:46.880
and got in touch with a game
warden, but before learning of its providence,

1046
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:53.840
they returned the pacu to the water. Oh quote, it's a catch

1047
01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:58.399
and release pond, Jana said,
So, we unfortunately did release it back

1048
01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:00.199
because we didn't know any better at
the time. So they should have kept

1049
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:05.880
it. See, I like that
though these sound like good neighbors that like

1050
01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:10.119
I would have been like, I
could probably keep this since it's so unusual.

1051
01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:14.119
That would be my attitude. You
know. No, well, I'm

1052
01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:15.359
not necessarily saying to eat. I
mean like you could have been, like,

1053
01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:17.720
you know, put out a post
on Facebook, like anybody have a

1054
01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:21.199
you know, a tank, you
know, let's put it in a let's

1055
01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:24.840
put it in a home depot bucket
for an hour or two while we get

1056
01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:28.800
a fish tank, because clearly it's
if it's surviving in a little pond like

1057
01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:31.239
that's built for a neighborhood, then
that fish must be able to survive in

1058
01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:36.479
environments. So because some fish are
just and sea creatures are incredible at that.

1059
01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:43.279
Yeah, like lobsters. The reason
that lobsters we buy them often when

1060
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:46.199
they're still alive is because they are
so tumultuous. They're not they can live

1061
01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:51.800
through all kinds of things. I
watched a YouTube video about Leon the lobster.

1062
01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:57.720
He's my favorite thing on the internet
right now. He was a lobster

1063
01:19:57.840 --> 01:20:00.039
bought at a fish market and then
they put of eating it, they put

1064
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:05.119
it in a tank of saltwater,
and it's thriving now. Like good,

1065
01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:12.279
he got all of his strength back, like completely recovered. They're so strong

1066
01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:15.600
creatures. They're like very able to
recover anyway. Good. I know,

1067
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:19.039
I know, you're like great,
we're talking about lobsters, now, Hey,

1068
01:20:19.119 --> 01:20:23.079
whatever, this is it's my show. It's our show, but it's

1069
01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:28.680
my show. Quiet you People who
later recognize the fish said it was invasive

1070
01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:31.119
and shouldn't be released, she said, adding quote, we made a mistake

1071
01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:38.039
there. Oh well, since since
then, Charlie has been stalking the fish.

1072
01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:42.199
Quote, he did stay at the
pond pretty late that night trying to

1073
01:20:42.239 --> 01:20:45.239
catch it again, Jana said,
adding that her son has been rising early

1074
01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:48.760
and staying at the pond late,
hoping to get another bite from that paku.

1075
01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:53.359
Oh, this kid's so cute.
I like, I like this kid.

1076
01:20:53.600 --> 01:20:56.840
I like this story. Yeah.
I mean he's never going to catch

1077
01:20:56.920 --> 01:21:00.880
it again, because now the fish
knows his tricks stay away, fish knows.

1078
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:05.760
Yeah, look at this kid.
He looks so happy. The fish

1079
01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:12.000
is huge. I mean he's eleven, but so he's not a big Yeah,

1080
01:21:12.359 --> 01:21:16.520
creature himself, but she's a creature. Um, if Charlie succeeds,

1081
01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:20.680
a neighbor has offered to eat the
paku, but Jianna has other ideas.

1082
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:24.880
Quote, if he catches it again, we're going to get it mounted for

1083
01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:30.039
him. Ah that'd be perfect.
Okay, Well, I think that's a

1084
01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:33.159
heck of a prize and he deserves
it. Oh. I love these people,

1085
01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:38.239
Yeah, she said, Quote I
told him we'd make it look like

1086
01:21:38.319 --> 01:21:41.479
the fish was smiling, so you
could see its teeth. I love these

1087
01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:46.920
people. These are the people we
need in this world. Wholesome content.

1088
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:51.199
Oh my gosh, I'm sorry that
made me. That's like so sweet because

1089
01:21:51.199 --> 01:21:56.439
having a fish mounted that's like the
like this is a thing that like got

1090
01:21:56.520 --> 01:21:59.800
this kid in like newspapers everywhere.
So if he catches it again, like

1091
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:02.359
he did a good thing because it's
invasive. Yeah, he got a bunch

1092
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:06.119
of cool attention for it. I
think that would be like the ultimate story

1093
01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:10.159
piece. Have that mounted on your
wall and somebody could be like what is

1094
01:22:10.199 --> 01:22:13.000
that? Like I caught that when
I was eleven years old in a pond

1095
01:22:13.079 --> 01:22:15.920
behind my house and they're like wow, and I'm like no, no,

1096
01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:18.319
no, Like I lived in the
suburbs. It was like just a pond

1097
01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:24.720
from like decoration stocked with fish um
around you do they have a lot of

1098
01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:29.520
those fish stocked ponds for people out
here. There are apartment complexes near me

1099
01:22:29.640 --> 01:22:32.520
that have ponds that were built and
they have a two fish, two fish

1100
01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:35.479
a month policy. You're allowed to
keep and eat two fish a month.

1101
01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:41.880
That's so weird, it is it
is. Maybe that's because I'm in Ohio.

1102
01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:45.039
Whatever shot, Yeah, Like if
we don't put fish in our ponds

1103
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:48.359
that you can eat. Sometimes we
put fish that you don't eat in ponds.

1104
01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:51.680
But that's about it. I mean, it's it's an odd thing.

1105
01:22:51.720 --> 01:22:56.399
It's definitely not something I'm looking for
out of a place to live. But

1106
01:22:57.119 --> 01:23:00.520
I meant, at least you could
have a meal a couple full times a

1107
01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:02.439
month, you know. I mean, if you catch a big enough fish,

1108
01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:05.680
I mean you can you can eat
for you know, a few meals.

1109
01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:10.159
I remember one time, man,
I'm talking about fishing too much.

1110
01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:13.079
I remember one time my dad and
I went fishing and we went to the

1111
01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:18.520
river while the salmon were running,
and it was insane. We caught I

1112
01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:24.039
don't I mean, we caught like
easily fifteen fish. Wow, like big

1113
01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:28.199
salmon. Wow. I remember because
my dad took it home. He cleaned

1114
01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:32.000
them, and then he cooked them. And he had so much fish.

1115
01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:36.399
He worked at a factory and he
just took literally a garbage bag full of

1116
01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:41.760
fried fish nuggets to work and like
was just giving it out to everybody,

1117
01:23:41.840 --> 01:23:46.279
literally a trash bag full, because
there was so much. That's that's amazing.

1118
01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:48.520
He could be a cool dude sometimes, you know. That was a

1119
01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:51.439
pretty nice thing to do. Um, and and do you remember this is

1120
01:23:51.479 --> 01:23:55.439
New Hampshire too, so people are
like, oh man, fresh salmon bites,

1121
01:23:55.560 --> 01:23:58.119
you know, because like they people
catch salmon there and eat it,

1122
01:23:58.319 --> 01:24:01.720
you know. Yeah. So anyway, the game game wardens believe the pacu

1123
01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:05.960
was a pet that outgrew its tank
and was released into the wild, right,

1124
01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:12.880
I just can't imagine that wouldn't be
the case. Oh god, how

1125
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:16.399
dare you? The Oklahoma Department of
Wildlife Conservation set addressing the fish's previous own

1126
01:24:16.600 --> 01:24:20.880
owner via Twitter and setting off a
lively exchange with surprised members of the public.

1127
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:25.920
Quote why does it have human teeth? It was all caps. A

1128
01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:29.560
dismayed commentary asked, I don't know, we didn't make them. The Wildlife

1129
01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:35.960
agency response, I don't know,
we didn't make them. When asked what

1130
01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:40.800
kind of bait Charlie used to entice
the entice the pacu to bite, his

1131
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:44.319
mother said, you're gonna laugh,
but it was just a piece of bread.

1132
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:50.279
I love these people because like that
means that like he's literally mostly fishing

1133
01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:54.880
just for kicks, you know,
like they didn't even go get nightcrawlers,

1134
01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:58.319
you know, like yeah, yeah, but one hand, since you've never

1135
01:24:58.399 --> 01:25:00.880
fished. That means you've never gotten
up a or thirty in the morning to

1136
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:04.760
catch worms. No, but I've
done other things. I don't want to

1137
01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:11.840
hurt, but I've done other things. Yeah, like what, I don't

1138
01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:15.640
know. That statement was so broad. That's why I was like, Okay,

1139
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:20.039
you have done other things. That's
fair. Before we wrap up this

1140
01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:26.319
news story, not only is this
the first paco caught an Oklahoma or not

1141
01:25:26.439 --> 01:25:30.520
only is this not the first pack
who caught an Oklahoma, it's the it's

1142
01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:32.720
not the first time it's been hooked
by an eleven year old in the state.

1143
01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:38.279
Wow. Charlie follows in the footsteps
of Kennedy Smith of Lindsay, Oklahoma,

1144
01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:42.479
who caught a pacu five years ago. Quote. These fish are generally

1145
01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:46.039
harmless to humans, but the practice
of dumping unwanted pets in waterways could be

1146
01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:51.079
incredibly harmful to native wildlife, the
Wildlife Agency said via Facebook. It warned

1147
01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:56.079
that paco could grow to sizes up
to three point five feet and eighty eight

1148
01:25:56.199 --> 01:26:05.199
pounds. Wow. Wow, they'll
be really nice and fun to hang out

1149
01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:10.279
with when they're that big. Yeah, especially when you hear this Along with

1150
01:26:10.359 --> 01:26:15.520
its creepy appearance, The Pacu has
a troubling nickname quote the ball cutter,

1151
01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:23.039
a label that stems from its purported
habit of attacking men's testicles. The dubious

1152
01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:28.159
distinction prompted warnings for skinny dippers in
Scandinavia after one of the fish was caught

1153
01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:32.359
in the wild in twenty thirteen.
Wow, it's not normal to get your

1154
01:26:32.399 --> 01:26:36.079
testicles bitten off, of course,
but it can happen, especially now in

1155
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:41.439
Sweden, fish expert Henrik Carl said
at the time, although he warned that

1156
01:26:41.479 --> 01:26:45.239
people were still more than more likely
to die from drowning than a Pacu attact.

1157
01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:51.159
The only other thing to mention is
they're supposedly delicious. Okay, so

1158
01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:56.479
anyway, they have a deep body, tasting somewhat like carp with strong muscles.

1159
01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:00.800
I have one quick story left before
we get to our topic of the

1160
01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:05.640
Philadelphia experiment, and this is just
some silly fun from Huffington Post. HuffPost

1161
01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:12.680
dot com photo of freeway exit goes
viral for unsavory reason, and I just

1162
01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:15.640
want to share this real fit quick
because it's very funny. It's just I'm

1163
01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:18.199
not even gonna read the whole Actually, we'll read the whole article because it's

1164
01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:21.920
very short. Chew on this.
A photo of a freeway exit is going

1165
01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:29.039
viral because if it's apparent connection to
cannibalism. On Wednesday, the Placerville Police

1166
01:27:29.119 --> 01:27:33.000
of the California Highway Patrol posted a
photo on Facebook of Donner Late Donner Lake

1167
01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:36.760
exit on Interstate eighty. Let me
see if I can pull up the picture

1168
01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:42.520
for you, since they didn't put
the actual what the heck, I'm just

1169
01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:48.000
not gonna Oh my gosh, now
everything's going horribly awry. The lake just

1170
01:27:48.159 --> 01:27:51.640
so happen, just happens to be
named after the Donner Party, a group

1171
01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:56.680
of Midwestern pioneers who were forced to
spend the winter of eighteen forty six three

1172
01:27:56.680 --> 01:28:00.960
eighteen forty seven in the Sierra Nevada
Mountain range. Les Legend has it that

1173
01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:03.640
some of the members survived by eating
others in their party, though a more

1174
01:28:03.720 --> 01:28:11.119
recent archaeological study turned up no evidence
of cannibalism. Cal Trans Public Information there

1175
01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:15.439
it is. Cal Trans Public Information
officer Steve Nelson told Hugh Post that there

1176
01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:19.159
are thirty eight restaurants off that exit, so the sign is appropriate to notify

1177
01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:24.560
motorists, But we also understand the
irony and that it may be considered insensitive.

1178
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:27.319
Yeah, so it says exit one
eighty Donner Lake and it just has

1179
01:28:27.359 --> 01:28:31.560
a picture, the picture of a
fork and a knife. That this is

1180
01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:33.840
why I wanted to break it up
real quick. I figured it would give

1181
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:39.279
you a good laugh. Yeah,
oh my gosh. Still, for some

1182
01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:44.439
Facebook commoners, the cannibal connection was
enough to provide food for thought. One

1183
01:28:44.479 --> 01:28:46.119
person commented, I heard there is
a party going on up there, to

1184
01:28:46.199 --> 01:28:50.920
which the place revealed CHPs social media
page replied cheekily, slowly dwindling, but

1185
01:28:51.119 --> 01:28:57.520
yes, okay, that's dark.
Others chimed in with their own tasteless comments.

1186
01:28:57.680 --> 01:29:01.119
Quote for a fine Dining Experience view
to visit beautiful Donner Lake, to

1187
01:29:01.239 --> 01:29:08.199
which another person replied, bring the
family see now they need to find Paku

1188
01:29:08.359 --> 01:29:12.520
and Donner Lake. Yeah. Yeah. One person joked that the food around

1189
01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:16.119
the lake was finger licking good,
while another said that the ribs and shoulder

1190
01:29:16.199 --> 01:29:20.920
are amazing, but I wasn't a
fan of the liver and onions. After

1191
01:29:21.039 --> 01:29:25.840
one person praised the post, the
place of WALHP account replied, just trying

1192
01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:30.640
to be humorous and spelled it like
the bone. Okay, well that's all

1193
01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:34.760
the spooky news we have. So
we're going to take a quick break and

1194
01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:38.239
go to our sponsors, and then
we are going to take a little deep

1195
01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:44.199
dive into the Philadelphia Experiment. And
I don't mean, you know, just

1196
01:29:44.359 --> 01:29:46.520
the raisin murders they've had in the
last few years. Right now, they're

1197
01:29:46.560 --> 01:30:01.439
coming down finally and we are back
and it's time Chell to talk about the

1198
01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:06.199
Philadelphia Experiment. Have you ever heard
of it or anything you're not I know

1199
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:10.479
you're not a native Philly person,
but you've been living in Philly a long

1200
01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:14.560
time, yeah, or adjacent to
it. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

1201
01:30:14.720 --> 01:30:19.119
well you know, yeah, I've
definitely heard of it, but right

1202
01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:24.279
now my brain doesn't know if I
know anything about it or not. One

1203
01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:26.760
of my favorite things about you,
Michelle is that I'll ask you like do

1204
01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:30.000
you know about that? And you
and you'll reply maybe, but not right

1205
01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:33.239
now. And that's but that's like
the best response because I totally know what

1206
01:30:33.319 --> 01:30:38.119
you mean. It's like sometimes you're
just not in that headspace to know to

1207
01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:42.760
pull that information right away. Yeah. So I was thinking about the Manhattan

1208
01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:45.279
Project, and whenever I hear the
Manhattan Project, my brain is like,

1209
01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:46.920
ah, yes, the Manhattan Project
in the Philadelphia Experiment, even though they

1210
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:51.079
have nothing to do with each other, and the Philadelphia Experiment is probably didn't

1211
01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:57.840
even happen. But I always wanted
to do a deep dive. So we

1212
01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:03.159
are going to learn about the Philadelphia
Experiment together using an infallible source of information

1213
01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:10.600
known as Wikipedia. And yeah,
so maybe you'll learn a little bit more

1214
01:31:10.720 --> 01:31:15.239
about maybe you'll learn a little bit
more about about where you're from or where

1215
01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:17.640
you live. I mean, sorry, if there was a Dayton Experiment,

1216
01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:21.760
we'd be talking about it, but
there isn't. So the Philadelphia Experiment was

1217
01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:27.079
an alleged event claimed to have been
witnessed by an ex merchant mariner named Carl

1218
01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:31.439
M. Allen at the United States
Navy's Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,

1219
01:31:31.880 --> 01:31:40.039
sometime around October twenty eighth, nineteen
forty three. Okay, so before

1220
01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:45.359
both of our parents were even alive. Yeah. Allen described an experiment where

1221
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:50.439
the US Navy attempted to make a
destroyer escort class ship, the USS Eldridge,

1222
01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:56.399
disappear and the bizarre results that follow. I kind of feel like I

1223
01:31:56.479 --> 01:32:00.279
know about this a little. And
there's a movie called The Philadelphia experiment about

1224
01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:03.720
which I feel bad because I'm pretty
sure I saw it and I just don't

1225
01:32:03.760 --> 01:32:08.479
remember anything about it. Yeah,
it used to be on cable a lot.

1226
01:32:09.560 --> 01:32:13.840
The story first surfaced in late nineteen
fifty five when Alan sent a book

1227
01:32:13.920 --> 01:32:18.239
full of handwritten annotations referring to the
experiment to a US Navy research organization,

1228
01:32:18.359 --> 01:32:24.359
and a little later a series of
letters making further claims to a UFO bookwriter.

1229
01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:28.680
Well, this all sounds legit.
Yeah, I mean, for the

1230
01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:32.920
record, when I send a book
full of handwritten annotations referring to certain experiments

1231
01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:39.520
to the US Navy, I get
all kinds of crap. Sorry, it's

1232
01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:44.840
just it's different because handwriting, it
just has a different connotation type. So

1233
01:32:45.319 --> 01:32:47.600
it looks a little bit crazier than
any said. Well, I was.

1234
01:32:47.760 --> 01:32:51.439
Well, the first time I sent
them annotations, my printer was broken,

1235
01:32:51.479 --> 01:32:57.840
so I cut out letters from magazines. Okay, when you say it out

1236
01:32:57.920 --> 01:33:00.199
loud, it seems crazy, but
it at the time. Well, I

1237
01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:02.880
mean it takes a lot of effort
to do that, though, to get

1238
01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:06.079
all the letters. I thought they
would think I cared. Yeah, I'm

1239
01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:11.279
sure they thought you really cared.
Yeah, because I even put at the

1240
01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:15.680
end of the whole thing, like
by cutting out the words I put this

1241
01:33:15.039 --> 01:33:23.840
really matters to me. But yeah, but whatever, And like clearly it

1242
01:33:23.920 --> 01:33:26.079
mattered to me because at one point
I cut my thumb and I just left

1243
01:33:26.119 --> 01:33:30.479
the blood on there because like I
didn't want to not send it. Yeah,

1244
01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:32.600
I mean, if you've done all
that work already, would be a

1245
01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:38.000
shame not to send it, exactly, I'd be a fool not to send

1246
01:33:38.079 --> 01:33:43.439
it. Yeah, let's see.
Alan's account of the event is widely understood

1247
01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:48.600
to be a hoax. Several different
and sometimes contradictory versions of the alleged experiment

1248
01:33:48.640 --> 01:33:54.880
have circulated over the years in paranormal
literature and popular movies. Popular maybe a

1249
01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:59.800
stretch. The US Navy maintains that
no such experiment was ever conducted, that

1250
01:34:00.039 --> 01:34:04.319
the details of the story contradicted contradict
well established facts about USS Eldridge, and

1251
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:09.560
that the physics the experiment is claimed
to be based on are non existent.

1252
01:34:11.039 --> 01:34:17.279
Huh. So let's go with the
origins of this story. The story of

1253
01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:23.000
a Philadelphia experiment originated in late nineteen
fifty five and Carlin Allen's an Anonymous Oh

1254
01:34:23.119 --> 01:34:29.880
was Anonymous sent an anonymous package marked
Happy Easter containing a copy of Morris K.

1255
01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:35.920
Jessup's book The Case for the UFO
Unidentified Flying Objects to the US Office

1256
01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:42.680
of Naval Research. I'm worried about
this guy. I'm sure he's fine.

1257
01:34:44.079 --> 01:34:48.319
I can only imagine he's dead,
and no one understands how, because that's

1258
01:34:48.399 --> 01:34:51.640
just the bad luck that you have, is that hoaxers die like weird.

1259
01:34:53.199 --> 01:35:02.079
M Yeah, but yeah, So
did you ever read any books? Not

1260
01:35:02.279 --> 01:35:04.880
really when you were a kid?
Were you a big reader? Though?

1261
01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:11.640
Seriously? No? Oh okay,
no, because I had a lot of

1262
01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:15.760
trouble reading. Oh really Yeah,
yeah, it's so weird because I'm a

1263
01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:21.560
good reader. Not I was in
like remedial classes or reading until I was

1264
01:35:21.640 --> 01:35:26.159
in like sixth grade. Yeah,
how did I not know this? I

1265
01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:30.840
don't know. I feel like I
don't know. No. The reason I'm

1266
01:35:30.840 --> 01:35:32.800
surprised is because I always liked,
I always like to be very upfront about

1267
01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:38.199
the fact that I'm a weak reader
or a nondisciplined reader, however you want

1268
01:35:38.199 --> 01:35:41.039
to put it, because I feel
like it's it's like, I'm hoping that

1269
01:35:41.119 --> 01:35:43.840
if somebody else feels embarrassed about the
fact that they're not a great reader,

1270
01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:47.119
like I'm not good at sitting still
and reading. That's why Weekly Spooky has

1271
01:35:47.159 --> 01:35:50.800
been really special to me because it
really encourages me to sit and enjoy reading.

1272
01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:55.279
Yeah, you know, it really
does, because like reading aloud I

1273
01:35:55.319 --> 01:35:58.800
can stick to, but reading bout
myself sometimes I just can't do it.

1274
01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:02.880
I hate that. Like that's why
I love audiobooks, because yeah, sometimes

1275
01:36:02.920 --> 01:36:05.239
I can't do it. But so
I'm surprised because I've talked about that so

1276
01:36:05.359 --> 01:36:09.479
often that it hasn't come up that
you were in like remedial English or whatever.

1277
01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:12.640
I feel like we've talked about of
it. Maybe it was like a

1278
01:36:12.720 --> 01:36:15.720
really long time ago or something.
Yeah, because I'm gonna because you know,

1279
01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:23.359
like the the the like gifted kid
memes and stuff like never strike it

1280
01:36:23.520 --> 01:36:26.439
with me because I'm like, I
wasn't really a gifted kid. Guys,

1281
01:36:26.439 --> 01:36:29.680
I don't really know what you're talking
about. That makes No, you were

1282
01:36:29.760 --> 01:36:34.359
not a gifted child. No I
was, Yeah, I know everybody else

1283
01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:38.920
was. It was just me.
Well, for the record, I was

1284
01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:42.439
gifted, but I was in Odyssey
of the Mind. I wasn't in like

1285
01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:45.640
the extended the ESL classes is what
they called them. And all of my

1286
01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:48.920
friends were, So it was like
a bummer because when they go do ESL,

1287
01:36:48.960 --> 01:36:51.560
I couldn't go do ESL with them. But then we were all in

1288
01:36:51.640 --> 01:36:56.600
Odyssey of the Mind, which was
for like kids who were extremely creative.

1289
01:36:56.880 --> 01:36:59.600
Oh that's nice. And then I
kicked out of Odyssey of the Mind.

1290
01:36:59.720 --> 01:37:02.359
So you have it, sorry,
And they can suck a dick up till

1291
01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:06.960
they hiccup. So I turned up
fine, I talk on the internet.

1292
01:37:08.640 --> 01:37:14.680
Um. The book was filled with
handwritten notes in its margins. Oh that

1293
01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:16.760
doesn't seem crazy at all. Well, you gotta put them somewhere. Come

1294
01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:23.560
on, I'm going to cross things
out, written with three different shades of

1295
01:37:23.680 --> 01:37:30.039
blue ink. Well, you went
out of the clinking, appearing to detail

1296
01:37:30.119 --> 01:37:34.640
a debate among three individuals, only
one of whom is given a name,

1297
01:37:35.199 --> 01:37:42.600
Jemmy. Oh okay. They commented
on Jessup's ideas that the propulsion of about

1298
01:37:42.640 --> 01:37:47.119
the propulsion for flying saucers, discussed
alien races, and expressed concern that Jessup

1299
01:37:47.239 --> 01:37:51.920
was too close to discovering their technology. Oh. So the reason I asked

1300
01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:57.039
you about reading was when I was
a kid, I would read the UFO

1301
01:37:57.119 --> 01:38:00.680
books. I think I've told you
that at my life. At my elementary

1302
01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:02.479
school library they had they had a
couple books on UFOs and a couple of

1303
01:38:02.479 --> 01:38:05.520
books on ghosts, and I read
them all and I was the only name

1304
01:38:06.159 --> 01:38:11.720
in the in the checkout card.
And I remember learning about like Project Blue

1305
01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:16.319
Book and learning about which was the
like the official investigation of UFOs the government

1306
01:38:16.359 --> 01:38:19.960
did was it was called Project Blue
Book, And I remember just learning about

1307
01:38:19.960 --> 01:38:25.640
all that stuff and being like so
enamored. It's so funny because I'm a

1308
01:38:25.720 --> 01:38:30.840
skeptic as an adult, and I
think that So I really think that exposure

1309
01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:33.159
doesn't make you believe. I think
that, you know, it really comes

1310
01:38:33.199 --> 01:38:36.680
down to other factors, because yeah, if exposure made you believe, I

1311
01:38:36.720 --> 01:38:41.520
would believe in ghosts and aliens because
I would read all the books that said

1312
01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:45.520
they were probably real. And then
even so I was like, it's pretty

1313
01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:51.039
cool though. Yeah. So the
commenters referred to each other as gypsies and

1314
01:38:51.239 --> 01:38:57.840
discussed two different types of people living
in outer space. Their text contained non

1315
01:38:57.960 --> 01:39:03.199
standard use of capitalization and inctuation,
and detailed a lengthy discussion of the merits

1316
01:39:03.439 --> 01:39:09.520
of various elements of Jessup's assumptions.
In the book, there were oblique references

1317
01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:14.479
to the Philadelphia experiment. One commentar
reassures his fellow annotators, who have highlighted

1318
01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:19.880
a certain theory which Jessup advanced,
this is getting really weird. Yeah,

1319
01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:28.119
absolutely sorry, They're like they're communicating
through the margins, Like that's weird.

1320
01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:30.520
I mean, I guess if you
think about it, it's like before message

1321
01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:34.760
boards and stuff. So maybe this
was a way of like sharing ideas together.

1322
01:39:35.680 --> 01:39:40.520
I like, I understand. It
just sounds like some crazy person did

1323
01:39:40.600 --> 01:39:44.560
the whole thing. Oh no,
no, it's absolutely some crazy person did

1324
01:39:44.600 --> 01:39:46.119
it. But also, have you
ever read a web forum? Yeah,

1325
01:39:46.279 --> 01:39:50.319
same, Yeah, but not everyone
is crazy in the web forum, just

1326
01:39:50.479 --> 01:39:53.800
most of them. Okay, yeah, no, I would agree. The

1327
01:39:54.159 --> 01:39:57.960
only ones that were saying those are
the ones that were inhaling constant carbon monoxide.

1328
01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:06.720
Those eight ones um. Shortly thereafter, in January of nineteen fifty six,

1329
01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:12.119
Alan began sending a series of letters
to Jessup using his given name as

1330
01:40:12.159 --> 01:40:18.720
well as Carlos Miguel Allende. Okay, well his name's carl m Allen.

1331
01:40:19.399 --> 01:40:27.760
Okay, so that is like maybe
maybe he was anglicizing his name. So

1332
01:40:28.079 --> 01:40:31.039
I had a really funny conversation with
a friend. Nope, his name was

1333
01:40:31.079 --> 01:40:34.760
Carl Meredith Allen. So he was
just being weird. Yeah. I had

1334
01:40:34.760 --> 01:40:39.800
a friend who one time we were
talking about like name stuff and uh,

1335
01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:42.399
and he was like and he was
like, you know who really pisses me

1336
01:40:42.439 --> 01:40:45.439
off, Geraldo Rivera. And I
was like why and he was like,

1337
01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:48.560
because he's like he's pretending to be
something he's not. And I was like,

1338
01:40:49.079 --> 01:40:51.319
what is he pretending to be?
And they were like and my friend

1339
01:40:51.439 --> 01:40:56.159
was like, when I knew him, he was Jerry Rivers until until he

1340
01:40:56.199 --> 01:41:00.640
wanted to to separate himself. And
I was like, no, he claimed

1341
01:41:00.680 --> 01:41:04.319
his real name and actually, Hoorldo
Rivera isn't his real name. His name

1342
01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:10.319
is Roldo Riviera, but Rivera was
easier to pronounce. Yeah, so he

1343
01:41:10.479 --> 01:41:15.520
just leaned into that. Well makes
more sense because that's literally river that's not

1344
01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:20.239
yeah roughly give or take anyway.
But I just thought it was funny.

1345
01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:24.079
It was like oh, and I
was like, yeah, yeah, he

1346
01:41:24.159 --> 01:41:28.520
didn't claim a foreign sounding game.
Yeah. Yeah, as as from one

1347
01:41:28.560 --> 01:41:33.119
person with a foreign sounding name to
another, Oh, where's my Social Security

1348
01:41:33.199 --> 01:41:39.199
card? Anyway? Um? No, I'm asking, um god, I'm

1349
01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:44.640
so goofy today. Alan put forward
a story of dangerous science based on unpublished

1350
01:41:44.720 --> 01:41:49.119
published theories by Albert Einstein. Oh. He further claimed a scientist named Franklin

1351
01:41:49.239 --> 01:41:56.760
Reno uh uh, Franklin Reno put
these theories into practice at the Philadelphia Naval

1352
01:41:56.800 --> 01:42:00.600
Shipyard in October of nineteen forty three. Alan claim to have witnessed this experiment

1353
01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:05.680
while serving aboard the S s Andrew
F. Sith. In Alan's account,

1354
01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:13.399
a destroyer escort was successfully made invisible, but the ship then inexplicably teleported to

1355
01:42:13.479 --> 01:42:17.439
Norfolk, Virginia for several minutes,
but then reappeared in the Philadelphia yard.

1356
01:42:18.439 --> 01:42:23.960
How okay, No, what how
would we know that it was in Norfolk

1357
01:42:24.079 --> 01:42:27.479
for a few minutes. I'm guessing
because like they got a call and I

1358
01:42:27.560 --> 01:42:31.079
was like, Hey, this is
Tom and Norfolk. What there's ship here.

1359
01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:35.039
We don't understand and they're all asking
us for cheese steaks and we don't

1360
01:42:35.039 --> 01:42:44.359
know what that means. Yeah,
there you go. So I get why

1361
01:42:44.760 --> 01:42:47.359
something like this could have come up. Though. Think about nineteen forty three.

1362
01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:53.119
You're in the birth of the atomic
age. Yeah, the atomic bomb

1363
01:42:53.279 --> 01:43:00.119
literally unleashed a power unknown to humankind
beyond like a hurricane and so I could

1364
01:43:00.159 --> 01:43:06.159
see like it definitely drove imaginations wild
in America. Yeah, because I mean

1365
01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:11.439
there's even like there's an entire era
of films that are called the Atomic Age

1366
01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:15.479
movies because they're all about the fact
that everybody was wondering about atomic power,

1367
01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:19.039
atomic weapons, everything atomic, the
atom, the power of the atom,

1368
01:43:19.319 --> 01:43:24.079
you know, that kind of thing. So I see, like I could

1369
01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:28.680
see a theory like this gaining some
traction because it's like, well, what

1370
01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:31.119
else are they doing if they're if
they're gathering hundreds of scientists into the middle

1371
01:43:31.159 --> 01:43:36.199
of the desert in Los Alamos in
order to make the biggest bomb ever known

1372
01:43:36.279 --> 01:43:41.279
to humankind, what else are they
doing? Yeah. It's kind of like

1373
01:43:41.359 --> 01:43:43.199
when the Cold War picked up and
all of a sudden, it was like

1374
01:43:43.279 --> 01:43:45.119
the Russians, well, the Russians
were studying mind control, but it was

1375
01:43:45.199 --> 01:43:49.319
like the idea that like, well
they were studying mind control and extrasensory perception.

1376
01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:54.760
They were just they were just a
big, massive power with tons of

1377
01:43:54.920 --> 01:43:58.800
money, and they could make their
scientists do whatever they wanted. Yeah.

1378
01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:02.359
Yeah, so they tried everything,
you know, Uh, and they were

1379
01:44:02.399 --> 01:44:06.000
weird because they're Russian, you know, and the Russians are weird. Sorry,

1380
01:44:06.479 --> 01:44:10.720
I don't know how much you was
Russian, but that parts the Actually

1381
01:44:10.760 --> 01:44:14.960
that's the last weird party you are. Yeah, come on, but no,

1382
01:44:15.159 --> 01:44:17.760
so I get I get it though, like when the government says like,

1383
01:44:17.840 --> 01:44:20.199
surprise, it took three years,
but now we have an Adam bomb,

1384
01:44:20.279 --> 01:44:25.000
you have to wonder like, whoa, yeah, did they also make

1385
01:44:25.079 --> 01:44:30.840
things invisible and teleport them or just
like maybe we don't have any clue what's

1386
01:44:30.920 --> 01:44:33.479
next? You know, therefore this
is reasonable, similar to like them when

1387
01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:36.239
we went to the moon, it
was like people are like, whoa,

1388
01:44:36.319 --> 01:44:40.039
we could go to the moon,
and then it became you know, well

1389
01:44:40.039 --> 01:44:41.439
of course, and there were people
are like, no, we can't.

1390
01:44:41.479 --> 01:44:45.840
But you know, yeah, yeah, you heard it from Michelle. She

1391
01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:47.920
does not believe we went to the
moon. I mean her and I personally,

1392
01:44:48.479 --> 01:44:50.960
okay, even though I told you
we did, and just you just

1393
01:44:51.000 --> 01:44:55.760
slept the whole time. I don't
know why you wouldn't wake me up so

1394
01:44:55.880 --> 01:45:00.439
I could see the moon though you
look so peaceful. I mean, that's

1395
01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:03.159
nice of you, but you ruined
my life not letting me see them on

1396
01:45:03.399 --> 01:45:09.239
so wow, and there it comes
out right on the show. Yeah,

1397
01:45:10.079 --> 01:45:15.680
damn well that hurt. Thanks.
Uh. The ship's crew was supposed to

1398
01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:23.760
have suffered various side effects, including
insanity, intangibility, and being frozen in

1399
01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:30.000
place. Oh no. When Jessup
wrote back requesting more information to corroborate his

1400
01:45:30.119 --> 01:45:35.159
story, Alan said his memory would
have to be recovered. Oh oh,

1401
01:45:35.880 --> 01:45:41.319
so now we need some We need
some like quack psychiatrists and some hypnotists,

1402
01:45:42.239 --> 01:45:46.039
and referred Jessup to I'm sorry,
or recovered with money. Oh oh,

1403
01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:50.720
that's even better, and referred to
Jessup to what referred Jessup to what seems

1404
01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:56.319
to be a non existent Philadelphia newspaper
article that Alan claimed covered the incident.

1405
01:45:56.760 --> 01:46:02.960
Oh you know what would suck if
arlis Miguel Allende, if Carl Allen like

1406
01:46:04.119 --> 01:46:09.880
was in the Baron Stein Bears universe
where the Philadelphia experiment totally happened. Yeah,

1407
01:46:10.199 --> 01:46:14.560
and then he switched over. So
he's just wrong about what crazy paranormal

1408
01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:19.279
thing happened. Yeah, that's that
theory is now mine and now I'm going

1409
01:46:19.319 --> 01:46:23.159
to claim it's real and it's going
to be on the Wikipedia page in a

1410
01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:30.000
matter of Yeah, some people believe
that I love them. Some people believe

1411
01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:38.199
or some people have said, who
are these people? Shrugging emoji. In

1412
01:46:38.399 --> 01:46:42.199
nineteen fifty seven, Jessup was invited
to the Office of Naval Research, where

1413
01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:45.359
he was shown the annotated copy of
his book. Jessup noticed the handwriting of

1414
01:46:45.399 --> 01:46:50.520
the annotations resembled the letters he received
from Alan twelve years later. Alan would

1415
01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:55.760
say that he authored all of the
annotations in order to scare the hell out

1416
01:46:55.800 --> 01:46:59.800
of Jessup. That's in quotes.
Well, I would do it, yeah,

1417
01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:00.880
I mean you know what would scared
him more, would just be like,

1418
01:47:01.039 --> 01:47:08.000
you know, I'm gonna kill you
or yeah. Two officers at ONR,

1419
01:47:08.159 --> 01:47:12.359
Captain Sidney Sherby and Captain George W. Hoover, took a personal interest

1420
01:47:12.439 --> 01:47:16.079
in the matter. Hoover later explained
that his duties as Special Projects Officer required

1421
01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:21.000
him to investigate many publications and that
he ultimately found nothing of substance to the

1422
01:47:21.119 --> 01:47:28.520
alleged invisibility experiment. Okay. Hoover
discussed the annotations with Austin N. Stanton,

1423
01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:32.119
president of Verro Manufacturing Corporation of Garland, Texas, during meetings about Vero's

1424
01:47:32.159 --> 01:47:39.600
contract work for ONR. Stanton became
so interested in Vero's office Vero's office became

1425
01:47:39.680 --> 01:47:45.239
so interested that Vero's office began producing
mimeographed copies of Jessup's book with the annotations

1426
01:47:45.279 --> 01:47:48.920
and Alan's letters, first a dozen
and eventually one hundred and twenty seven copies.

1427
01:47:50.159 --> 01:47:56.279
These copies came to be known as
the Vo Edition. Besides noting handwriting

1428
01:47:56.319 --> 01:48:00.399
of the individual name Jemmy, addressed
as such by others, and using blue

1429
01:48:00.520 --> 01:48:05.000
violet ink, the anonymous introduction to
the Varro Edition concludes that there were two

1430
01:48:05.119 --> 01:48:11.600
other individuals making annotations, Mister A
identified as Alan by Jessup and blue ink,

1431
01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:15.680
and mister B in blue greening.
Wow. I like how it's just

1432
01:48:16.279 --> 01:48:21.439
like they just picked slightly different blues
instead of just like different colors or the

1433
01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:27.760
same color of blue. Yeah.
Jessup tried to publish more books on the

1434
01:48:27.800 --> 01:48:31.039
subject of UFOs, but was unsuccessful. He lost his publisher and experienced a

1435
01:48:31.079 --> 01:48:36.079
succession of downturns in his personal life, and died by suicide in Florida on

1436
01:48:36.239 --> 01:48:41.079
April thirtieth, nineteen fifty nine.
Or that's what they want you to think.

1437
01:48:41.600 --> 01:48:45.399
Yeah, see, this is what
I'm talking about. Yeah, I

1438
01:48:45.479 --> 01:48:47.680
don't even have conspiracy theories I'm into, but like, oh, that doesn't

1439
01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:54.760
help. It doesn't help that Jessup
killed himself and in Florida. I think

1440
01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:58.600
it was a giant snake. I
mean probably that it's kind of hard to

1441
01:48:58.720 --> 01:49:02.840
mistake as a suicide. Who knows. Yeah, no, that's freaking weird

1442
01:49:02.920 --> 01:49:08.920
and creepy. The various book writers
who tried to get more information from Carl

1443
01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:14.479
Allen found his responses elusive or couldn't
find him at all. One reporter from

1444
01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:19.439
Allen's hometown of New Kensington, Pennsylvania, interviewed his family and was handed a

1445
01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:26.239
pile of documents and books, all
scribbled with Alan's annotations. Okay. They

1446
01:49:26.359 --> 01:49:31.880
described Alan as a fantastic mind but
also a drifter and a master leg puller.

1447
01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:38.680
Yeah, so crazy person. Yeah, I mean, I'm not trying

1448
01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:40.359
to be a jerk, but like
when you say, like, man,

1449
01:49:40.439 --> 01:49:43.279
he had a fantastic mind, but
he liked to like pull tricks, it's

1450
01:49:43.319 --> 01:49:49.439
like, oh, insane, like
like almost criminally insane. Then sounds good,

1451
01:49:51.319 --> 01:49:56.359
So let's see, we got a
few more things to pump into here.

1452
01:49:57.079 --> 01:50:01.359
In nineteen sixty five, Vincent Gaddis
published a book of Fortianna, which

1453
01:50:01.439 --> 01:50:10.560
Fortianna is fourteen investigations. Fourteen refers
to paranormal ghosts and urban legend folklore.

1454
01:50:10.840 --> 01:50:15.439
I have a friend who's a fourteen
investigator. Okay so. But it was

1455
01:50:15.479 --> 01:50:20.079
called Invisible Horizons True Mysteries of the
Sea. In it he recounted the story

1456
01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:25.880
of the experiment from the Varo annotations. So then it was covered in I'm

1457
01:50:25.880 --> 01:50:28.920
going to skip over these a little
bit. But it was referenced in a

1458
01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:32.000
novel titled Thin Air. It was
referenced in a book by author charled bertlets

1459
01:50:32.560 --> 01:50:35.399
selling, a book about the the
Bermuda Triangle. That then did a book

1460
01:50:35.399 --> 01:50:41.960
called the Philadelphia Experiment Project Invisibility.
Yeah. So it was covered in several

1461
01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:46.840
books and became a favorite of UFO
believers. Okay, so and h The

1462
01:50:46.920 --> 01:50:51.199
experiment was allegedly based on an aspect
of some unified theory, a term coined

1463
01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:56.199
by Albert Einstein to describe a class
of potential theories. Such theories would aim

1464
01:50:56.279 --> 01:51:00.279
to describe mathematically and physically the interrelated
nature of the four verses of electromagnetism and

1465
01:51:00.319 --> 01:51:04.039
gravity, in other words, uniting
their respective fields into a single field.

1466
01:51:04.600 --> 01:51:11.840
Okay um. According to some accounts, unspecified researchers thought that some version of

1467
01:51:12.039 --> 01:51:15.359
this of this field would enable using
large electro generators to bend light around an

1468
01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:23.199
object via refraction so that the object
became completely invisible. The Navy regarded this

1469
01:51:23.279 --> 01:51:27.720
as a military of military value and
sponsored the experiment. That's what they people

1470
01:51:27.760 --> 01:51:32.520
believe. Another unattributed version of the
story proposes that researchers were preparing magnetic and

1471
01:51:32.560 --> 01:51:39.680
gravitational measurements of the c floor to
detect anomalies supposedly based on Einstein's attempts to

1472
01:51:39.800 --> 01:51:44.640
understand gravity. In this version,
there were also there were also related secret

1473
01:51:44.680 --> 01:51:48.760
experiments in Nazi Germany to find find
anti gravity, allegedly led by ss Ober

1474
01:51:48.800 --> 01:51:54.119
group and Feer Hans Kammler, I
said Ober group of fewer pretty well,

1475
01:51:54.439 --> 01:51:59.399
yeah, I think so, thank
you. There are no reliable attribute attribute

1476
01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:04.000
beautable accounts, but in most accounts
of the supposed experiment, USS Eldridge was

1477
01:52:04.079 --> 01:52:09.760
fitted with the required equipment at the
Philadelphia Naval Shipyard and then testing began in

1478
01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:13.000
the summer of nineteen forty three,
and it was supposedly successful to a limited

1479
01:52:13.079 --> 01:52:17.279
extent. One test resulted in EL
Eldridge being rendered nearly invisible, with some

1480
01:52:17.439 --> 01:52:23.800
witnesses reporting a greenish fog appearing in
its place. Crew members complained of severe

1481
01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:29.399
nausea afterward. Also reportedly, when
the ship reappeared, some sailors were embedded

1482
01:52:29.479 --> 01:52:32.720
in the metal structures of the ship, including one sailor who ended up on

1483
01:52:32.760 --> 01:52:36.680
a deck level below where he began
and had his hand embedded in the steel

1484
01:52:36.720 --> 01:52:41.439
hole of the ship, as well
as some sailors who went completely bananas in

1485
01:52:41.600 --> 01:52:45.439
quotes. Do you think it would
hurt? It would I would imagine it

1486
01:52:45.439 --> 01:52:47.159
would hurt once you would I don't
think what. I would think that it

1487
01:52:47.159 --> 01:52:53.439
would hurt when it after it happened, like once your hand existed in the

1488
01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:57.279
like replaced by the ship or whatever. I think that then you would feel

1489
01:52:57.279 --> 01:52:59.880
pain, but you wouldn't feel pain
as it happened. I don't think it

1490
01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:02.600
would hurt at all. I think
it's just there now, embedded in the

1491
01:53:02.720 --> 01:53:06.520
ship. Oh okay, Yeah,
I like that. I love Wikipedia because

1492
01:53:06.640 --> 01:53:11.159
the quote is completely bananas, and
then there's a link to what bananas are.

1493
01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:15.079
There is also a claim that the
experiment was altered after that point at

1494
01:53:15.119 --> 01:53:18.800
the request of the Navy, limiting
it to creating a stealth technology that would

1495
01:53:18.800 --> 01:53:26.520
render us Eldridge invisible to radar.
None of these allegations have been independently substantiated.

1496
01:53:27.119 --> 01:53:30.319
Other versions of the story give the
date of the experiment as October twenty

1497
01:53:30.319 --> 01:53:34.640
eighth, nineteen forty three. In
this version, Eldridge not only became invisible,

1498
01:53:34.720 --> 01:53:39.399
but disappeared from the area and teleported
to Norfolk, Virginia, over two

1499
01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:43.800
hundred miles away. It is claimed
that Eldridge sat for some time in view

1500
01:53:43.840 --> 01:53:48.560
of men aboard the ship SS Andrew
for seth whereupon Eldridge vanished and then reappeared

1501
01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:54.239
in Philadelphia at the site and it
originally occupied Okay. Many versions of the

1502
01:53:54.279 --> 01:53:58.319
tale include descriptions of serious side effects
for the crew. Some crew members were

1503
01:53:58.359 --> 01:54:01.680
said to have been physically few us
to bulkheads, while others suffered mental disorders,

1504
01:54:01.800 --> 01:54:06.880
and some rematerialized inside out. That
would be That would be really bad.

1505
01:54:08.439 --> 01:54:13.520
Do you think that would hurt?
I actually have no idea. Probably,

1506
01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:17.319
Oh and then and others simply vanished, never to reappear. They're probably

1507
01:54:17.760 --> 01:54:23.720
they're probably somewhere like in the hall
entirely. Yeah. It also claimed that

1508
01:54:23.760 --> 01:54:27.760
the ship's crew may have been subjected
to brainwashing to maintain the secrecy. Of

1509
01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:31.359
the experiment. Yeah, I was
gonna say otherwise, how do you make

1510
01:54:31.399 --> 01:54:35.359
sure people don't tell they're loved ones
that they're inside out? Now? Yeah,

1511
01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:39.880
um, honey, I need you
to not ask any questions about you

1512
01:54:39.960 --> 01:54:44.359
being inside out about me being inside
out. We're gonna take a really quick

1513
01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:47.520
break, and then we're going to
dive into what evidence, research and explanations

1514
01:54:48.039 --> 01:54:54.239
people have come up with about the
Philadelphia experiment. After these quick words from

1515
01:54:54.279 --> 01:55:10.239
our sponsors, say something funny,
what and believe it or not, we're

1516
01:55:10.359 --> 01:55:14.199
back. We were in Norfolk for
just a little while, and now Michelle's

1517
01:55:14.239 --> 01:55:17.960
hand is partially in her microphone,
but we are back. It doesn't hurt.

1518
01:55:21.479 --> 01:55:27.319
We're talking about the Philadelphia experiment,
which does not involve cream cheese,

1519
01:55:27.359 --> 01:55:30.640
which I'm very surprised by. Yeah, I feel like that would be what

1520
01:55:30.760 --> 01:55:35.439
a Philadelphia experiment would be. We
can make one. Oh man, you

1521
01:55:35.479 --> 01:55:40.479
know I really want bagels. Yeah, me too. Do you ever not

1522
01:55:40.600 --> 01:55:43.880
want bagels? No? Okay,
No, that's okay, dude. If

1523
01:55:43.960 --> 01:55:46.720
bagels were as good where I live
as they were where you grew up,

1524
01:55:47.800 --> 01:55:53.800
I would always be thinking about bagels. So but I do want I'm going

1525
01:55:53.840 --> 01:55:57.399
to get a bagel this weekend.
I earned it. Yeah, so we

1526
01:55:57.479 --> 01:56:00.239
have Berry Bagel, Berry Bagels.
It's like it's a place where you can

1527
01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:03.800
get normal bagels and also sandwiches and
stuff deli stuff. Um, it's the

1528
01:56:03.840 --> 01:56:08.199
place where everywhere I sometimes I'll send
you a picture because they always have they

1529
01:56:08.239 --> 01:56:12.920
always have copies of the Jewish Observer, right right, Yeah. Apparently Barry

1530
01:56:12.960 --> 01:56:16.600
Bagels was founded in Columbus by a
Jewish gentleman named named that people call Berry

1531
01:56:17.359 --> 01:56:20.840
so m and the food's great and
they always have muntsible soup every day.

1532
01:56:21.159 --> 01:56:25.479
That's nice. Yeah, it's it's
pricey, but I get it, Like

1533
01:56:25.640 --> 01:56:28.840
I can't imagine they sell a ton
of it. No, I mean that's

1534
01:56:28.880 --> 01:56:30.960
what I mean. Like I get
it because like the chicken noodle soup is

1535
01:56:30.039 --> 01:56:34.439
cheaper, because that's got a wider
appeal. So the fact that I go

1536
01:56:34.760 --> 01:56:40.079
they have chicken noodles or they have
they have muntiple soup, that alone explains

1537
01:56:40.119 --> 01:56:42.720
why I'll pay two more dollars,
you know, and why anybody would,

1538
01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:45.920
Okay, because it's like it's niche. We want it because we can't have

1539
01:56:45.039 --> 01:56:48.880
it and we love it so anyway, and there's is not as good as

1540
01:56:48.920 --> 01:56:54.640
mine or your mom's um. The
historian, Oh, so this is about

1541
01:56:54.920 --> 01:57:00.359
evidence and research and explanations and alternate
theories and stuff about about this. The

1542
01:57:00.479 --> 01:57:06.239
historian Mike Dash notes that many authors
who publicized the Philadelphia Experiment story after that

1543
01:57:06.359 --> 01:57:11.880
of Jessup appeared to have conducted little
or no research of their own, which

1544
01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:14.119
I am very surprised to hear.
And I'm sure you are as well.

1545
01:57:14.199 --> 01:57:16.800
Yeah, I'm shocked. I'm not
really that shacked. Through the late nineteen

1546
01:57:16.920 --> 01:57:23.279
seventies, for example, Allende slash
Allen was often described as mysterious and difficult

1547
01:57:23.359 --> 01:57:30.000
to locate, but Goerman determined Allende
Allen's identity after only a few telephone calls.

1548
01:57:30.800 --> 01:57:32.239
He just kept asking him, and
he's like, okay, who are

1549
01:57:32.279 --> 01:57:35.760
you? Who are you? Who
are you? Who are you? Okay?

1550
01:57:38.239 --> 01:57:42.760
I like that. I can't seem
to find, like what his name

1551
01:57:42.800 --> 01:57:45.960
actually was. What didn't we I
mean, well, I mean Wikipedia says

1552
01:57:46.000 --> 01:57:51.800
he was born Carl Meredith Allen.
Why did he have the like the Spanish

1553
01:57:51.920 --> 01:57:57.359
name because he wanted it? I
mean that could be it. I mean

1554
01:57:57.439 --> 01:58:01.319
he sounds like he's he's a little
bit strange. So oh no he oh

1555
01:58:01.479 --> 01:58:04.199
god, no, he is.
He had other hit Okay, you're gonna

1556
01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:06.920
love this name. You're gonna love
this, You're gonna love this. Okay.

1557
01:58:08.399 --> 01:58:13.479
So he was born in Springdale,
Pennsylvania, and other names he went

1558
01:58:13.520 --> 01:58:19.119
by other than Carl Meredith, Allen
Work, Carl Miguel Allende, Carlos Miguel

1559
01:58:20.199 --> 01:58:28.880
H. Christofero Allende, and Carl
Meredit Allan Stein. Yeah, he's just

1560
01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:30.039
making stuff up. Yeah, he's
just making stuff up. I like,

1561
01:58:30.199 --> 01:58:33.880
we had like a Spanish name and
like maybe a kind of like European Jewish

1562
01:58:33.960 --> 01:58:36.880
name. Like that's why I started
laughing as like, oh, are you

1563
01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:46.079
serious, Allen Stein allen Stein,
Yeah, okay, anyway, gosh uh.

1564
01:58:46.319 --> 01:58:48.840
But you know, if he was
like like I want a Jewish name

1565
01:58:48.880 --> 01:58:51.399
and I want a Hispanic name,
he would have liked this show. You

1566
01:58:51.479 --> 01:58:56.800
know. Yeah, we should find
him. I don't think he's dead anymore.

1567
01:58:56.920 --> 01:58:59.560
He died in nineteen ninety four.
Spoilers, I don't know if they're

1568
01:58:59.560 --> 01:59:01.279
gonna mention this piece, but he
died in nineteen eighty four, and I'm

1569
01:59:01.279 --> 01:59:04.479
sure it was mysterious. Actually probably
wasn't. We'll find out. Well,

1570
01:59:04.560 --> 01:59:10.520
we'll look into that before we wrap
this up. Others speculate that much of

1571
01:59:10.640 --> 01:59:17.920
the key literature emphasizes dramatic embellishment rather
than pertinent research, again shocking Burlitz and

1572
01:59:18.000 --> 01:59:23.880
Moore's account of the story the Philadelphia
experiment project Invisibility. The book claimed to

1573
01:59:23.960 --> 01:59:28.640
include factual information, such as transcripts
of interview of an interview with a scientist

1574
01:59:28.960 --> 01:59:32.800
involved in the experiment, but their
work has also been criticized for plagiarizing key

1575
01:59:32.920 --> 01:59:36.880
story elements from the novel Thin Air, which was published a year earlier.

1576
01:59:38.239 --> 01:59:42.319
Oh yeah, so there was a
novel inspired by it, and they seemed

1577
01:59:42.319 --> 01:59:44.720
to lift stuff from it. I
just want to point out one of the

1578
01:59:44.760 --> 01:59:49.600
reasons I don't believe in a lot
of conspiracy theories is because no one is

1579
01:59:49.640 --> 01:59:55.399
good at keeping a secret. Yeah, they couldn't. They couldn't even keep

1580
01:59:55.520 --> 02:00:01.199
the nuclear secrets away from Russia.
Ye during World War Two, Like they

1581
02:00:01.239 --> 02:00:05.359
couldn't. One of the thing reasons
I recommend if you are curious about seeing

1582
02:00:05.359 --> 02:00:10.000
Oppenheimer, anybody out there, go
see it is they talk a lot about

1583
02:00:10.680 --> 02:00:14.880
how they decided Oppenheimer was a spy
after he did all that stuff for them,

1584
02:00:15.920 --> 02:00:19.319
and it's but it's really fascinating that
like it. They were coming up

1585
02:00:19.359 --> 02:00:24.560
with like the most secret things in
the world and isolating everybody away to their

1586
02:00:24.640 --> 02:00:28.720
own you know, isolated town and
community with their families to live there for

1587
02:00:28.880 --> 02:00:31.720
years. And it's still got all
the way to Russia. Yeah. Yeah,

1588
02:00:32.600 --> 02:00:35.760
it's just although it is actually kind
of funny. No spoilers, but

1589
02:00:35.880 --> 02:00:40.159
like they're like, who who leaked
it to Russia? Who did it?

1590
02:00:40.239 --> 02:00:43.680
And it's literally like one of the
people that the government made them let visit.

1591
02:00:44.119 --> 02:00:47.239
Of course. Yeah, there is
a oh and there was a part

1592
02:00:47.279 --> 02:00:49.319
I wanted to tell you about,
by the way in Oppenheimer that I really

1593
02:00:49.359 --> 02:00:54.199
liked. There was a scene where
they meet this guy who has a Jewish

1594
02:00:54.279 --> 02:00:56.000
name. I can't remember it right
now, but he had like a very

1595
02:00:56.079 --> 02:00:58.359
Jewish name, and he had a
German accent. And they said like,

1596
02:00:58.399 --> 02:01:02.159
oh, this is so and so
from the British the British research instit do

1597
02:01:02.319 --> 02:01:05.720
whatever. And he shakes again.
Offenheimer shakes hand. He goes how long

1598
02:01:05.760 --> 02:01:10.000
have you been British And he goes
about as long as Hitler has told me

1599
02:01:10.079 --> 02:01:13.399
I was not German, and I
just like, I just love that line.

1600
02:01:13.479 --> 02:01:15.880
I was like, that was such
a great way to like help make

1601
02:01:15.920 --> 02:01:18.079
sure you understand, like, hey, this is World War two because we're

1602
02:01:18.119 --> 02:01:24.079
in America, so you know,
it's not as obvious until you talk to

1603
02:01:24.199 --> 02:01:27.960
some like a Jewish person from Europe
and you're like yeah, yeah, dear,

1604
02:01:28.680 --> 02:01:31.600
oh dear. And there's one part
where Einstein's hanging out with a friend

1605
02:01:31.640 --> 02:01:36.479
of his and he talks about his
friend refuses to eat most some days because

1606
02:01:36.520 --> 02:01:41.359
he's so convinced the Nazis will poison
him. Here. Wow, like I'm

1607
02:01:41.640 --> 02:01:45.119
terrifying, So I mean, just
terrifying, all right. Anyway, gosh,

1608
02:01:45.319 --> 02:01:48.079
this I mean, I don't feel
bad bringing up Oppenheimer because that is

1609
02:01:48.119 --> 02:01:53.560
what inspired me to want to cover
this story because I love I love the

1610
02:01:53.680 --> 02:01:58.760
idea of science before computer like mainstream
computers. Like I just love the idea

1611
02:01:58.800 --> 02:02:01.840
of like we have chalk wards and
each other's brains and lots of cigarettes,

1612
02:02:02.279 --> 02:02:09.520
healthy cigarettes, you know. So
that's it's just fascinates me, you know.

1613
02:02:10.560 --> 02:02:14.560
So. Uh. Personnel at the
fourth Naval District have suggested that the

1614
02:02:14.640 --> 02:02:19.079
alleged event was a misunderstanding of routine
research during World War Two at the Philadelphia

1615
02:02:19.159 --> 02:02:25.479
Naval Shipyard. Yeah. One theory
is that quote the foundation for The apocryphal

1616
02:02:25.720 --> 02:02:30.319
stories arose from degaussing experiments, which
have the effect of making a ship undetectable

1617
02:02:30.520 --> 02:02:35.600
or invisible to magnetic minds. Okay, that is interesting because if you think

1618
02:02:35.600 --> 02:02:39.199
about it, that's the way would
they'd be described it. They'd be like,

1619
02:02:39.239 --> 02:02:42.359
okay, and that, you know
whatever, hours will test to see

1620
02:02:42.359 --> 02:02:45.920
if it's invisible. Yeah, but
what they mean is invisible to in the

1621
02:02:45.039 --> 02:02:48.560
context of what they're trying to accomplish. Yeah, so that makes it.

1622
02:02:48.680 --> 02:02:54.920
That's interesting. Another possible origin of
the stories about levitation, teleportation and the

1623
02:02:55.000 --> 02:03:00.640
effects on human crew might be attributed
to experiments with generating the generating plant of

1624
02:03:00.760 --> 02:03:08.479
the destroyer USS Timmerman, wherein a
high frequency generator produced corona discharges, although

1625
02:03:08.600 --> 02:03:13.680
none of the crew reported suffering effects
from the experiment. Okay, a corona

1626
02:03:13.720 --> 02:03:15.439
discharge. I'm guessing you don't know, because I don't either. A corona

1627
02:03:15.520 --> 02:03:19.680
discharge. See, I'm a good
guy. Instead of pulling it up right

1628
02:03:19.720 --> 02:03:23.239
away and then just saying, well, a corona discharge is this I'm gonna

1629
02:03:23.479 --> 02:03:27.640
I didn't know, Yeah, thank
yeah. A corona discharge is an electrical

1630
02:03:27.720 --> 02:03:31.039
discharge caused by the ionization of fluids
such as a fluid such as air,

1631
02:03:31.159 --> 02:03:35.880
surrounding a conductor carrying a high voltage. It represents a local region where the

1632
02:03:35.960 --> 02:03:42.399
air has undergone electrical breakdown and becomes
conductive, allowing charge to continuously leak off

1633
02:03:42.439 --> 02:03:46.399
the conductor. So kind of like
Tesla stuff. Yeah, kind of like

1634
02:03:46.720 --> 02:03:54.760
Tesla stuff, electricity through the air. Observers have argued that it is inappropriate

1635
02:03:54.840 --> 02:03:59.199
to grant credence to an unusual story
promoted by one individual in the absence of

1636
02:03:59.239 --> 02:04:01.880
corroborating evidence. Well, it's not
one individual. It's first of all,

1637
02:04:01.960 --> 02:04:06.239
one guy who has three names.
Yeah, I think he has four names.

1638
02:04:06.319 --> 02:04:10.680
Actually, I'm well, I mean
depends on how you define names.

1639
02:04:11.119 --> 02:04:15.840
Yeah. And also three people,
one of which was him and the other

1640
02:04:15.880 --> 02:04:17.840
two which we're supposed to be gypsy
aliens of some sort or something. Yeah,

1641
02:04:18.279 --> 02:04:21.399
and that's by their own description.
Yeah, so we know it's real.

1642
02:04:21.720 --> 02:04:29.159
Yeah, goddamn right. Robert Goerman
wrote in Fate magazine in nineteen eighty

1643
02:04:29.239 --> 02:04:32.840
that Carlos Allende slash Carl Allen,
who is said to have corresponded with Jessup,

1644
02:04:33.199 --> 02:04:39.119
was Carl Meredith Allen of New Kensington, Pennsylvania, who who had an

1645
02:04:39.279 --> 02:04:45.560
established history of psychiatric illness and who
may have fabricated the primary history of the

1646
02:04:45.640 --> 02:04:49.560
experiment as a result of his mental
illness. Yeah, I called it,

1647
02:04:49.680 --> 02:04:55.359
man, I called it. Gorman
later realized that Allen was a family friend

1648
02:04:56.840 --> 02:05:03.239
and a quote creative and imaginative loners
ending bizarre writings and claims. That's really

1649
02:05:03.319 --> 02:05:08.079
fascinating. Imagine that though, Like
you're writing, you write for a news

1650
02:05:08.119 --> 02:05:11.000
publication or whatever, and then you're
like, what is this all about?

1651
02:05:11.000 --> 02:05:14.000
And then you're like, wait,
wait, that's a guy from the like

1652
02:05:14.159 --> 02:05:18.640
the Allen's down the road. Yeah, that's him. That's wild. So

1653
02:05:18.880 --> 02:05:25.840
here are some timeline inconsistencies. The
USS Eldridge was not commissioned until August twenty

1654
02:05:25.880 --> 02:05:29.159
seventh, nineteen forty three, and
it remained in port at New York City

1655
02:05:29.479 --> 02:05:33.479
until September of nineteen forty three.
The October experiment allegedly took place while the

1656
02:05:33.520 --> 02:05:38.079
ship was on its first shakedown cruise
in the Bahamas, which, by the

1657
02:05:38.119 --> 02:05:41.560
way, that sounds like something I
want to be doing. What don't you

1658
02:05:41.560 --> 02:05:45.720
say? You and me? Shakedown
cruise in the Bahamas. I'm dancing.

1659
02:05:45.840 --> 02:05:50.000
They can't see, but yeah,
I'm grooving. Actually really, Although Proponents

1660
02:05:50.039 --> 02:05:56.359
of the story claimed that the ship's
logs might have been falsified or still classified.

1661
02:05:56.920 --> 02:06:00.279
Well, I don't know if they'd
be hiding it. Shakedown cruise,

1662
02:06:00.319 --> 02:06:02.640
by the way I looked it up
real quick, is a nautical term in

1663
02:06:02.680 --> 02:06:06.640
which the performance of a ship is
tested. Okay, I figured it was

1664
02:06:06.800 --> 02:06:12.760
something like that, or that they
were having a party. I don't know,

1665
02:06:12.840 --> 02:06:15.279
one of those, or robbing people. I don't know. Oh yeah,

1666
02:06:15.319 --> 02:06:19.159
shakedown, Yeah, yeah, apparently
it's it's a common thing where they

1667
02:06:19.199 --> 02:06:23.920
cruise for a long distance with another
ship and that's where they kind of overhaul

1668
02:06:23.960 --> 02:06:26.960
if there are any issues. That's
a good idea, makes perfect sense.

1669
02:06:27.199 --> 02:06:32.960
Yeah, especially if you're like the
with the US having so much coastal you

1670
02:06:33.000 --> 02:06:36.520
know, so much coastal space,
it makes sense that like it'd be like,

1671
02:06:36.640 --> 02:06:40.319
let's take the boat out for like
a thousand miles and see how it

1672
02:06:40.399 --> 02:06:45.000
goes, you know. The Office
of Naval Research or ONR, stated in

1673
02:06:45.039 --> 02:06:49.199
September of nineteen ninety six ONR has
never conducted investigations on radar invisibility, either

1674
02:06:49.239 --> 02:06:54.039
in nineteen forty three or at any
other time. Well, I'm gonna say

1675
02:06:54.119 --> 02:06:59.119
right now that if that were true. I would also completely believe that they

1676
02:06:59.119 --> 02:07:02.840
would lie about that, sure,
because they're always lying about what they're doing

1677
02:07:02.880 --> 02:07:08.119
to get an upper hand on potential
enemies, especially if they're potential, like

1678
02:07:08.640 --> 02:07:12.039
like when we were not officially at
war with the Soviets, but it made

1679
02:07:12.119 --> 02:07:15.760
us develop the most technology to destroy
the Soviets that we've ever developed of anything

1680
02:07:15.800 --> 02:07:20.279
ever. Yeah, yeah, and
them knowing it caused the arm race.

1681
02:07:21.319 --> 02:07:28.199
In fact, some people believe that
that UM detonating the atomic bombs in Japan

1682
02:07:28.960 --> 02:07:33.920
was a misstep because it made the
Soviets fully aware of our capability and encouraged

1683
02:07:34.000 --> 02:07:39.079
them to keep developing bombs as well. Okay, I could see that maybe.

1684
02:07:39.119 --> 02:07:41.680
But then there's also the argument that
it's a deterrent though, that like

1685
02:07:41.800 --> 02:07:44.199
they have bombs and we have bombs, and other people have bombs, that

1686
02:07:44.279 --> 02:07:47.560
everybody having bombs is what keeps us
from launching them. And I do overall

1687
02:07:47.600 --> 02:07:53.159
agree, Yeah, I do too. So UM another really good point they

1688
02:07:53.199 --> 02:07:56.319
reference in Oppenheimer. By the way, they talk a lot about that UM

1689
02:07:56.960 --> 02:08:01.239
about that he hoped that that that's
what the atomic bomb mccause because it would

1690
02:08:01.239 --> 02:08:03.479
cause people to be like, Okay, we'll all bomb each other mutually assured

1691
02:08:03.560 --> 02:08:09.359
destruction anyway, pointing out that the
ONR was not established until nineteen forty six,

1692
02:08:11.479 --> 02:08:16.439
so barely existed during the Philadelphia Experiment
claimed time, It denounces the accounts

1693
02:08:16.479 --> 02:08:22.880
of Philadelphia Experiment as complete science fiction. A reunion of Navy veterans who had

1694
02:08:22.920 --> 02:08:26.159
served aboard USS Eldridge told a Philadelphia
newspaper in April of nineteen ninety nine that

1695
02:08:26.199 --> 02:08:31.760
their ship had never made point port
in Philadelphia at all. Further evidence discounting

1696
02:08:31.760 --> 02:08:37.119
the Philadelphia Experiment timeline comes from the
USS Eldridge's complete World War Two action Report,

1697
02:08:37.359 --> 02:08:43.199
including the remarks section of the nineteen
forty three declogue, available on microfiche.

1698
02:08:43.600 --> 02:08:48.239
Oh, microfiche, they're little species. I feel like there'd be evidence

1699
02:08:48.239 --> 02:08:52.640
if they had had port and Philadelphia, like someone would have been murdered.

1700
02:08:52.640 --> 02:08:58.680
Yeah that's Philly for you, right, I love Philadelphia. But man,

1701
02:09:00.279 --> 02:09:07.479
you guys are having a time.
But here are some alternative explanations. Researcher

1702
02:09:07.600 --> 02:09:13.520
Jacques Valet describes a procedure on board
USS Angstrom, which was docked alongside the

1703
02:09:13.560 --> 02:09:18.600
Eldridge in nineteen forty three. The
operation involved the generation of a powerful electromagnetic

1704
02:09:18.720 --> 02:09:22.279
field on board the ship in order
to deperm or degasset, which we were

1705
02:09:22.319 --> 02:09:28.680
reading about earlier, with the goal
of rendering the ship invisible magnetically to fused

1706
02:09:28.760 --> 02:09:33.399
undersea mines and torpedoes. This system
was invented by a Canadian, Charles S.

1707
02:09:35.000 --> 02:09:39.279
Charles F. Goodeve, when he
held the rank of commander in the

1708
02:09:39.399 --> 02:09:46.359
Royal Canadian Naval Volunteer Reserve, and
the Royal Navy and other navies used and

1709
02:09:46.840 --> 02:09:50.800
used it widely during World War Two. Okay, British ships of the era

1710
02:09:50.960 --> 02:09:56.279
often included such degaussing systems built into
the upper decks. The conduits are still

1711
02:09:56.399 --> 02:10:01.520
visible on decks of the HMS Belfast
in London, for example. Degaussing is

1712
02:10:01.560 --> 02:10:05.239
still used today. However, it
has no effect on visible light or radar.

1713
02:10:05.279 --> 02:10:11.439
Valet speculates that accounts of uss Engstrom's
degaussing might have been garbled and and

1714
02:10:11.560 --> 02:10:18.960
confabulated. Apparently that's a real word. Yeah, confabulated. It's a in

1715
02:10:18.079 --> 02:10:22.359
psycholo. It's a psychological term.
It means memory error, defined as production

1716
02:10:22.439 --> 02:10:26.880
of fabricated, distorted, or misinterpreted
memories about oneself or the world. Okay,

1717
02:10:28.600 --> 02:10:31.439
and it just sounded like something my
aunt Betty would have said it's been

1718
02:10:31.520 --> 02:10:35.800
confabulated. I'd be like, that's
awesome, my little Kentucky aunt in subsequent

1719
02:10:35.840 --> 02:10:41.119
retellings, and that these accounts may
have influenced the story of the Philadelphia experiment.

1720
02:10:41.319 --> 02:10:45.079
Okay, I could see that.
Yeah. Valet cites a veteran who

1721
02:10:45.159 --> 02:10:48.520
served on board USS Engstrom and who
suggests it might have traveled from Philadelphia to

1722
02:10:48.600 --> 02:10:52.359
Norfolk and back again in a single
day at a time when merchant ships could

1723
02:10:52.439 --> 02:10:58.119
not could not by use of the
Chesapeake Delaware Canal and Chesapeake Bay. Okay,

1724
02:10:58.399 --> 02:11:01.039
that's an interest point that it would
have been able to travel really fast

1725
02:11:01.039 --> 02:11:05.000
if it had used the canal,
which at the time was open only to

1726
02:11:05.159 --> 02:11:11.000
naval vessels and not merchant naval ships. Use of that channel was kept quiet.

1727
02:11:11.159 --> 02:11:16.960
German submarines had ravaged shipping along the
East Coast during Operation Drumbeat, and

1728
02:11:16.119 --> 02:11:20.520
thus military ships, unable to protect
themselves, were secretly moved via canals to

1729
02:11:20.640 --> 02:11:24.399
avoid threat. Okay. Well,
and that's the other thing is during times

1730
02:11:24.439 --> 02:11:28.800
of war, especially, secrecy is
super high, and that just makes you

1731
02:11:28.960 --> 02:11:31.840
assume when you learn about a secret, you assume there are even more secrets

1732
02:11:33.800 --> 02:11:35.800
and I'm kind of the opposite to
some extent, Like if I learn about

1733
02:11:35.800 --> 02:11:39.479
a really big secret, then I
start to think, Wow, they're really

1734
02:11:39.520 --> 02:11:43.479
bad at keeping secrets, so we
probably know anything worth knowing. Yeah,

1735
02:11:43.119 --> 02:11:46.439
But I could see the other argument
too, like, well, if they're

1736
02:11:46.520 --> 02:11:48.600
keeping that from everybody, what else
are they keeping from everybody? And I'm

1737
02:11:48.600 --> 02:11:54.960
like, well only aliens? God. Yeah. The same veteran claims to

1738
02:11:54.039 --> 02:11:58.600
be the man that Allende witnessed,
quote disappearing at a bar. Oh yeah,

1739
02:11:58.720 --> 02:12:01.840
are I guess you know some people
as disappear at a bar. You

1740
02:12:01.880 --> 02:12:07.159
know, I'm making a drinking motion. He claims that when a fight broke

1741
02:12:07.199 --> 02:12:11.479
out, friendly barmaids whisked him out
of the bar before the police arrived because

1742
02:12:11.560 --> 02:12:15.479
he was underage for drinking. They
then covered for him by claiming that he

1743
02:12:15.520 --> 02:12:22.279
had disappeared. Wow. Okay,
so that is a pretty good little dive

1744
02:12:22.359 --> 02:12:28.720
into the Philadelphia experiment. So Chell, what do you take from this experiment?

1745
02:12:28.039 --> 02:12:33.199
From the claims, I'm really surprised
that this is even something that people

1746
02:12:33.279 --> 02:12:35.960
talk about, because it sounds like
it's really just some guy who's just has

1747
02:12:37.079 --> 02:12:41.000
some issues and that's it. You
could say that about almost anything. A

1748
02:12:41.039 --> 02:12:46.239
bunch of people believe or talk about
all the time. I don't know about

1749
02:12:46.279 --> 02:12:50.359
that. Have you read the Bible? Well, yeah, it sounds like

1750
02:12:50.479 --> 02:12:54.359
it sounds like some parts of it
sounds like rantings of a crazy person.

1751
02:12:54.920 --> 02:12:56.640
Not all of it, I'll be
honest, I you know, but yeah,

1752
02:12:56.640 --> 02:13:03.359
a lot of it. Boy Howdy
is saying. Yeah. So at

1753
02:13:03.399 --> 02:13:05.720
the end of the day, you
think the USS Eldridge didn't do anything special?

1754
02:13:07.560 --> 02:13:11.319
Yeah, I think that it was
pretty boring honestly. But he did

1755
02:13:11.439 --> 02:13:16.279
go to the Bahamas, so that's
cool. Well that does sound cool.

1756
02:13:16.680 --> 02:13:20.359
Yeah. Well a quick, since
we have a moment, a quick deep

1757
02:13:20.399 --> 02:13:24.600
dive into Karl Meredith Allen. He
was an American merchant marine who claimed that

1758
02:13:24.640 --> 02:13:28.600
during World War Two, we witnessed
the Philadelphia experiment. But the story is

1759
02:13:28.640 --> 02:13:33.079
widely understood to be a hoax because
he confessed several times over the years,

1760
02:13:33.159 --> 02:13:39.079
then recanted, then confessed again.
That's a very common thing with hoaxers too,

1761
02:13:39.640 --> 02:13:43.279
Like like the hoaxers behind like the
most famous big foot footage or the

1762
02:13:43.319 --> 02:13:46.720
most famous photo of a Lockness monster. They all later said like, ah,

1763
02:13:46.800 --> 02:13:48.840
we faked it, and then some
of them went, actually, no,

1764
02:13:48.079 --> 02:13:54.359
we didn't fake it changed my mind. Well they well, I get

1765
02:13:54.399 --> 02:13:56.000
how they could claim that, because
they could be like, no, I

1766
02:13:56.079 --> 02:13:58.119
was being coerced to say that I
faked it. I was just gonna say,

1767
02:13:58.199 --> 02:14:05.920
maybe they were being coerced. Yeah, so interesting. I'm wondering if

1768
02:14:05.960 --> 02:14:09.680
there's a cause of death listed here. He was born on May thirty first,

1769
02:14:09.760 --> 02:14:11.840
nineteen twenty five, in Springdale,
Pennsylvania, the eldest of five children.

1770
02:14:13.079 --> 02:14:16.920
His family described him as brilliant in
school with a fantastic mind, but

1771
02:14:16.079 --> 02:14:20.359
also as a person who never held
any particular job for long and was a

1772
02:14:20.439 --> 02:14:24.880
drifter. He was also known as
a master leg puller, pulling pranks on

1773
02:14:24.000 --> 02:14:28.960
people or or to get out of
work in general, so that sounds more

1774
02:14:30.000 --> 02:14:33.399
like he was a master liar.
He was so good at pulling your leg.

1775
02:14:33.479 --> 02:14:35.760
Like he would be like, hey, I'm in the hospital, I

1776
02:14:35.880 --> 02:14:39.359
need five hundred bucks, and then
you'd give it to him, and then

1777
02:14:39.359 --> 02:14:41.600
he'd be like, ah. Then
he'd be like, oh, he's so

1778
02:14:41.840 --> 02:14:48.000
good at pulling your leg. Yeah. Lying fraud is what that's called.

1779
02:14:48.000 --> 02:14:52.239
In nineteen forty two, he joined
the US Marine Corps, but was discharged

1780
02:14:52.319 --> 02:14:54.399
less than a year later. Right
after that, he enlisted in the United

1781
02:14:54.399 --> 02:14:58.840
States Merchant as a United States Merchant
Marine, at first serving on the US

1782
02:15:00.199 --> 02:15:05.199
Andrew Fusseth for SETH and then many
other ships until nineteen fifty two, when

1783
02:15:05.239 --> 02:15:07.640
he left service. Alan would later
claim the Philadelphi experiment, we talked about

1784
02:15:07.640 --> 02:15:13.399
that a bunch. He also claimed
he met Albert Einstein while there, and

1785
02:15:13.800 --> 02:15:18.680
for several weeks was schooled in physics
directly by Einstein. Wow, that sounds

1786
02:15:18.720 --> 02:15:22.600
like the kind of thing someone lies
about. Yeah. Yeah, it's like,

1787
02:15:22.720 --> 02:15:24.119
not only you don't know anything about
physics. Oh, not only do

1788
02:15:24.159 --> 02:15:28.600
I know stuff about physics, but
Einstein taught me physics. Yeah, I'm

1789
02:15:28.600 --> 02:15:33.600
a master legpooler. It'd be money. During his lifetime, he would use

1790
02:15:33.640 --> 02:15:41.560
many aliases, including Carlos Miguel Allende
signor professor, that's what it says,

1791
02:15:41.600 --> 02:15:50.279
senor professor okay, and Colonel Carlos
Miguel Christophero Allende and one time when he

1792
02:15:50.359 --> 02:15:56.960
wrote to the rocket engineer Werner von
Braun, doctor carl Mereditt Allenstein. Yeah.

1793
02:15:56.800 --> 02:16:01.399
He turned up in various places,
including Colorado, Mexico, eventually ending

1794
02:16:01.479 --> 02:16:05.720
up in Greeley, Colorado, where
he died on March fifth, nineteen ninety

1795
02:16:05.760 --> 02:16:11.000
four, and they do not list
how he died. Of course, I'm

1796
02:16:11.119 --> 02:16:15.159
kind of like, okay, so
so apparently like depending on what he was

1797
02:16:15.239 --> 02:16:20.279
writing, he would just like choose
a like a ethnicity or something that's interesting.

1798
02:16:20.560 --> 02:16:28.720
How did this guy die? I
need to know? Yeah, I

1799
02:16:30.960 --> 02:16:35.840
am finding nothing. Maybe he just
died. I mean he died at sixty

1800
02:16:35.840 --> 02:16:41.239
eight. He could have died of
natural causes, or that's what they want

1801
02:16:41.319 --> 02:16:46.399
us to think. Yeah, is
this no? Wow, somebody named Carlin

1802
02:16:46.520 --> 02:16:52.879
Allen died in twenty twenty two,
So I found their obituary. Sorry,

1803
02:16:52.840 --> 02:16:56.520
I yeah, I can't find any
cause of death. So I'm guessing that

1804
02:16:56.680 --> 02:17:03.000
he was killed by the government or
by the president personally. Okay, Yeah

1805
02:17:03.440 --> 02:17:07.200
that sounds right. Yeah that checks
out. So all right, Well,

1806
02:17:07.280 --> 02:17:09.639
we just finished our deep dive on
the Philadelphia experiment. I'm glad that you

1807
02:17:09.840 --> 02:17:13.360
went down this rabbit hole with me. Chell. Yeah, you know,

1808
02:17:13.399 --> 02:17:18.239
whatever keeps you off read it,
right, I mean, for you know,

1809
02:17:18.559 --> 02:17:22.559
for breaks. So we're gonna go
to a quick message from our our

1810
02:17:22.639 --> 02:17:26.360
wonderful sponsors, and then we'll be
back to wrap things up and talk a

1811
02:17:26.399 --> 02:17:31.159
little bit about some horror media I'm
checking out or looking forward to and whatever

1812
02:17:31.239 --> 02:17:35.280
you've got going on shell, yeah, it better be good. Right after

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02:17:35.360 --> 02:17:50.000
this, we are back wrapping up
this month of Monthly Spooky, and I

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02:17:50.079 --> 02:17:54.680
wanted to mention I saw a horror
movie in the theater. I saw Insidious

1815
02:17:54.879 --> 02:17:58.440
The Red Door, Oh, and
I enjoyed it. It was really fun.

1816
02:18:00.319 --> 02:18:03.879
Have you seen any of the Insidious
movies now? They're pretty good.

1817
02:18:03.840 --> 02:18:07.760
But the tricky thing with Insidius is
Insidious one and two are like direct sequels

1818
02:18:07.799 --> 02:18:13.280
to each other, and then Insidius
three and four, which are my favorites.

1819
02:18:13.639 --> 02:18:20.239
They're prequels and they're about a character
that I mean spoiler, but you

1820
02:18:20.319 --> 02:18:22.520
know, if you're watching three and
four, you have to know a character

1821
02:18:22.559 --> 02:18:26.840
in part two that died but that
was like really popular and people really liked

1822
02:18:26.879 --> 02:18:31.079
her, so they're like, it's
kind of her backstory and stuffy. But

1823
02:18:31.319 --> 02:18:37.760
this one, Incidius five, goes
back to the original storyline and kind of

1824
02:18:37.840 --> 02:18:39.680
wraps it up in a really cool
way that I enjoyed quite a bit.

1825
02:18:41.959 --> 02:18:46.639
Insidious movies are simply fun, scary
movies. They're not meant to be brilliant,

1826
02:18:46.719 --> 02:18:52.319
and I think that's respectable. And
they have such especially in Cidious three

1827
02:18:52.360 --> 02:18:58.000
and four. They have such gaudy, ostentatious jump scares that they're almost a

1828
02:18:58.159 --> 02:19:01.559
character that you're four Like. I
remember when I saw in Cidius three and

1829
02:19:01.639 --> 02:19:05.639
the title came up and they just
played like the loudest jump scare ever with

1830
02:19:05.719 --> 02:19:07.079
the title popping up. That was
when I was like, I get what

1831
02:19:07.159 --> 02:19:11.360
you guys are doing, and I
like it. No, and I appreciate

1832
02:19:11.440 --> 02:19:18.959
that, you know, like that's
fun so Insidious. Yeah, let's be

1833
02:19:20.040 --> 02:19:22.000
cracking my knuckles. I don't know
why I did that to the mic.

1834
02:19:22.159 --> 02:19:24.000
That was stupid, but no,
So I really enjoyed it. So if

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02:19:24.000 --> 02:19:26.879
you like seeing horror movies in theater, go see and Cidius the Red Door.

1836
02:19:26.959 --> 02:19:31.120
I think you'll like it. Also, I'm hoping to catch Cobweb,

1837
02:19:31.520 --> 02:19:35.120
which is a Indie Ish horror movie
that's in theaters, but it hasn't hit

1838
02:19:35.239 --> 02:19:39.479
my area yet. I'm really hoping
to go catch it. I think it's

1839
02:19:39.520 --> 02:19:43.559
just not here yet because they're using
so many theaters for Barbie and Oppenheimer right

1840
02:19:43.600 --> 02:19:46.239
now. Yeah, but I'm hoping
to get to catch it in the theater

1841
02:19:46.399 --> 02:19:52.680
because it looks super good. Also, I saw the trailer for the Exorcist,

1842
02:19:52.719 --> 02:19:56.040
the new Exorcist movie, which now, of course I can't remember.

1843
02:19:56.200 --> 02:20:01.079
I think it was like Exorcist Believer, Exorcist yep, Believer, the Exorcist

1844
02:20:01.200 --> 02:20:07.479
Believer. And it's written and directed
by the same team who did the Halloween

1845
02:20:07.479 --> 02:20:11.399
twenty eighteen Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends. Oh okay, And I know some

1846
02:20:11.520 --> 02:20:15.520
people have their opinions on that,
which they're wrong. I love those I

1847
02:20:15.639 --> 02:20:18.559
love that series, and if they're
going to do something kind of like that

1848
02:20:18.639 --> 02:20:22.760
but obviously very different, I'm here
for it. And in the trailer revealed

1849
02:20:22.840 --> 02:20:26.840
that the mom in The Exorcist is
back. Oh, and she's you know,

1850
02:20:26.520 --> 02:20:31.360
I mean that in the seventies she
was a mom aged person, so

1851
02:20:31.559 --> 02:20:35.440
she's pretty up there. And I'm
I loved her character, I always have,

1852
02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:37.639
and she's a really good actress.
So I can't wait to see what

1853
02:20:37.719 --> 02:20:41.840
they do. That's coming out in
like October thirteenth or something, so I'm

1854
02:20:41.879 --> 02:20:43.719
looking forward to that. But I'm
also looking forward to a film that I

1855
02:20:43.799 --> 02:20:48.959
believe is coming out very soon.
It's Oh, it's coming out in August

1856
02:20:48.040 --> 02:20:54.319
eleventh. It's called The Last Voyage
of the Demeter. Oh, do you

1857
02:20:54.360 --> 02:20:58.920
know what the Demeter is I know, but I saw one like thing,

1858
02:20:58.200 --> 02:21:01.639
like an ad trailer kind of thing
for it. Yeah, do you know

1859
02:21:01.760 --> 02:21:05.239
what the do you know what it's
about? No, I think I saw

1860
02:21:05.399 --> 02:21:07.399
the end of it and I was
like, okay, that's a thing.

1861
02:21:07.600 --> 02:21:09.440
It looks like a monster movie.
It is a monster movie. Um so

1862
02:21:09.600 --> 02:21:13.799
I do yeah, never mind,
but continue. Well, the Demeter was

1863
02:21:13.879 --> 02:21:18.200
the ship in Dracula, the book
and the movie, the boat that shows

1864
02:21:18.280 --> 02:21:22.559
up and everybody's dead on the boat. They're they're gone, okay, and

1865
02:21:22.840 --> 02:21:28.120
Dracula's coffins on that boat. So
it's it's basically like a prequel to Dracula,

1866
02:21:28.719 --> 02:21:31.879
but like a very tight prequel because
it's literally like the thing before he

1867
02:21:33.079 --> 02:21:37.440
arrives and then you know, starts, you know, causing him mayhem.

1868
02:21:37.399 --> 02:21:41.639
So I am pretty excited. I
sadly, I feel like it's going to

1869
02:21:41.719 --> 02:21:46.319
bomb horribly, yeah, which is
it's funny sometimes tell people that I'm like,

1870
02:21:46.319 --> 02:21:48.920
I'm worried this is gonna bomb,
and they're like, well, it

1871
02:21:48.000 --> 02:21:50.200
looks good, and I'm like,
yeah, it looks great. That's why

1872
02:21:50.200 --> 02:21:54.399
I'm bummed it looks like it's gonna
bomb, because I'm gonna go see it

1873
02:21:54.479 --> 02:21:58.399
opening Night, but I hope it
does really well. I would love it

1874
02:21:58.520 --> 02:22:01.040
to do to do well. But
Araculum movies seem to be cursed right now

1875
02:22:01.559 --> 02:22:07.360
because I really enjoyed Renfield and it
bombed horribly, so but I hope the

1876
02:22:07.440 --> 02:22:11.840
Last Voyage of the Demeter does well. I'm sure there are other horror things

1877
02:22:11.920 --> 02:22:15.920
I'm really excited about, but I'm
not They're not on my mind as much

1878
02:22:15.959 --> 02:22:18.559
as the Last Voyage of the Demeter
and the New Exorcist. Those are very

1879
02:22:18.680 --> 02:22:22.920
high on my list. And I
really did enjoy the New Insidious movie.

1880
02:22:22.520 --> 02:22:28.680
So yeah, that's the horror media
that's coming up. I don't know of

1881
02:22:28.760 --> 02:22:33.680
any big horror, any big horror
like series or anything that's going to be

1882
02:22:33.799 --> 02:22:37.120
coming soon, because last year we
had like the Munsters movie, and then

1883
02:22:37.159 --> 02:22:39.879
we had the Wednesday Adams Show.
We had all that stuff going on,

1884
02:22:41.000 --> 02:22:43.319
and right now I don't really know
of that much. And of course we

1885
02:22:43.360 --> 02:22:46.040
have a writer strike in a screen
actors guild strike right this moment, so

1886
02:22:46.399 --> 02:22:50.760
there's only gonna be so much stuff
coming. So, but that's what I've

1887
02:22:50.760 --> 02:22:52.479
got going on in my life,
because my life is just watching things and

1888
02:22:52.799 --> 02:22:56.840
talking into things. But what about
you chel, So what's going on on

1889
02:22:58.159 --> 02:23:09.600
redditum? Besides just the amazingness that
was place the subreddit our place for a

1890
02:23:09.639 --> 02:23:13.440
week. That was great and thanks
everybody. I didn't like. I just

1891
02:23:13.639 --> 02:23:18.040
made some pixels. That's all I
did. So there's UM. I was

1892
02:23:18.120 --> 02:23:24.280
on the the the glitch subredditum the
glitch in the matrix subreddit. And so

1893
02:23:24.399 --> 02:23:33.079
there was this dude who owns a
restaurant right right, and he when he

1894
02:23:33.319 --> 02:23:35.440
was like, I guess opening it. There's like an there's an area of

1895
02:23:35.520 --> 02:23:39.200
the restaurant where there's a kind of
like an alcove, and he was putting

1896
02:23:41.079 --> 02:23:46.680
sounds like like like fake you know, like the appelans took wallpaper type thing

1897
02:23:46.159 --> 02:23:50.719
tiles up. It sounds like he
was doing on the walls. And he

1898
02:23:52.280 --> 02:23:54.959
had two outlets in the alcove,
one on the left and one on the

1899
02:23:54.040 --> 02:23:58.920
right. So he was doing the
left side first and he's just kind of

1900
02:23:58.040 --> 02:24:01.760
winging it and he totally messes up
around the outlet, doesn't cut it straight

1901
02:24:01.840 --> 02:24:05.840
at all, and he has to
like redo the whole thing, and then

1902
02:24:05.959 --> 02:24:09.600
so on the other side. When
he gets to them right outlet, he's

1903
02:24:09.600 --> 02:24:11.159
like, Okay, I'll actually do
a good job, so I don't have

1904
02:24:11.239 --> 02:24:16.280
to do that twice. And while
he's like doing it, like his friend

1905
02:24:16.399 --> 02:24:20.399
who does like some construction things or
whatever, it was there and like laughing

1906
02:24:20.440 --> 02:24:24.360
at him for messing up the outlet
because he noticed immediately that there was a

1907
02:24:24.399 --> 02:24:31.239
patch and that kind of stuff.
So fast forward to the pandemic. They

1908
02:24:31.399 --> 02:24:33.399
are no longer sit down restaurant.
They only doing take out, so the

1909
02:24:33.520 --> 02:24:39.120
dining room just has like storage in
it and stuff like that. And he

1910
02:24:39.319 --> 02:24:45.239
needed an outlet for something and I
don't remember what it was, but like

1911
02:24:45.559 --> 02:24:48.799
the left outlet was already occupied with
stuff in it, so he was like,

1912
02:24:48.840 --> 02:24:54.159
okay, I'll use the right outlet. And they had laughed about it

1913
02:24:54.360 --> 02:25:01.079
for a while because he made that
outlook perfect, like he cut the tiles

1914
02:25:01.120 --> 02:25:03.920
really perfect, and then they just
shoved a couch up against it. So

1915
02:25:03.120 --> 02:25:07.959
now, yeah, so they and
his friend was there when they when like

1916
02:25:09.079 --> 02:25:11.159
whatever they were doing, his friend
was there too. They pull the couch

1917
02:25:11.239 --> 02:25:16.520
away, there's no outlet, and
they were looking all over and they don't

1918
02:25:16.600 --> 02:25:22.520
know, and like his friend remembers, he talks to his dad because he

1919
02:25:22.680 --> 02:25:26.079
was telling his dad about how like
dumb he was about doing the outlet thing.

1920
02:25:26.280 --> 02:25:28.719
So everybody remembers that there was an
outlet there, but there's no outlet

1921
02:25:30.200 --> 02:25:33.719
and they have no idea what happened. Did anybody check if the outlet is

1922
02:25:33.719 --> 02:25:39.239
in Norfolk, Virginia? No,
because that's actually I don't know where they

1923
02:25:39.280 --> 02:25:43.479
are. They could be there.
Oh well then it's in Philly. Yeah,

1924
02:25:43.559 --> 02:25:52.200
that would drive me insane. Yeah, we multiple witnesses, no idea

1925
02:25:52.360 --> 02:25:56.239
where the outlet one? How could
it leave? It makes me think of

1926
02:25:58.239 --> 02:26:01.680
do you in those old cartoons.
One of my favorite gags that used to

1927
02:26:01.719 --> 02:26:05.040
do was this one where a woman
would be getting her hair done at a

1928
02:26:05.360 --> 02:26:09.120
like salon or whatever, and she'd
put money in the meter, you know,

1929
02:26:09.799 --> 02:26:13.000
the parking meter, and as she's
like having a good time or whatever,

1930
02:26:13.040 --> 02:26:16.280
she realized, like, the meter's
gonna run out, so she runs

1931
02:26:16.319 --> 02:26:18.840
out to put coins in. But
earlier in the cartoon they showed these guys

1932
02:26:18.920 --> 02:26:24.200
come up and like dunt dunk,
and they removed the meter and put a

1933
02:26:24.319 --> 02:26:26.280
fire hydrant there. Yeah, and
then when she comes and she's like,

1934
02:26:26.360 --> 02:26:30.280
what I parked? I came with
coins because I was gonna pay more on

1935
02:26:30.360 --> 02:26:33.079
my on my parking toll. Like
there was a this was a parking Spody's

1936
02:26:33.120 --> 02:26:37.079
like ride, ma'am, and someone
just replaced it only to annoy you.

1937
02:26:37.120 --> 02:26:43.239
Yeah, it feels yeah, sometimes
life really feels that way, like that

1938
02:26:43.479 --> 02:26:46.600
ride and someone did this just to
annoy you. But no, that's what

1939
02:26:46.719 --> 02:26:52.200
it feels like. So I think
somebody is evil and and got rid of

1940
02:26:52.319 --> 02:27:00.360
that outlet and like covered it up
so that everything matched perfectly. Yell wow.

1941
02:27:01.040 --> 02:27:03.920
I mean the first thing I would
have done is started kicking holes in

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02:27:03.959 --> 02:27:07.040
the wall until I found that outlet
because I know it's there. Yeah.

1943
02:27:07.399 --> 02:27:11.360
Also, I have not had a
gainful employment in a very long time,

1944
02:27:11.479 --> 02:27:16.479
so that that plays a factor too. But that was pretty good. That's

1945
02:27:16.479 --> 02:27:18.920
a good glitch because, like,
if you ever think about these Glitch and

1946
02:27:18.920 --> 02:27:26.079
the Matrix stories is that they're relatable, Like I could see feeling like Willett's

1947
02:27:26.079 --> 02:27:30.840
that's weird and the human mind is
very odd. One time, I was

1948
02:27:31.000 --> 02:27:37.040
I was so overstressed that I couldn't
find a package that I needed to mail,

1949
02:27:37.479 --> 02:27:43.000
but I had mailed it earlier that
day. Oh wow. But then

1950
02:27:43.079 --> 02:27:46.559
I received a package that looked very
similar to it, and it I was

1951
02:27:46.639 --> 02:27:48.639
I was like reallysed like almost to
the point of tears. I was so

1952
02:27:48.719 --> 02:27:54.000
stressed out from my whole day.
So when I like, so, my

1953
02:27:54.079 --> 02:27:56.840
brain was like, no, it
was here. But what it happened was

1954
02:27:56.239 --> 02:28:01.399
I had mailed the package and then
I had received a package. It looked

1955
02:28:01.440 --> 02:28:05.000
like it opened it, taking the
stuff out and collapsed it. Yeah,

1956
02:28:05.120 --> 02:28:07.639
so there was no box anymore.
But my brain was like, no,

1957
02:28:07.719 --> 02:28:11.920
but I had a box here.
It likes the human mind is super finnicky,

1958
02:28:13.200 --> 02:28:16.360
but this one with other people also
aware and stuff. Yeah that is

1959
02:28:16.600 --> 02:28:20.920
that is frustrating. Yeah, it's
weird, especially because yeah it was it

1960
02:28:22.040 --> 02:28:24.840
was a joke. It was something
that they talked about. Yeah, and

1961
02:28:24.239 --> 02:28:31.959
it's just not there anymore. Yeah, that's so weird. I don't know

1962
02:28:31.159 --> 02:28:35.079
what. I mean, what do
you think happened? I have no idea.

1963
02:28:35.920 --> 02:28:37.120
This is one of those where I
don't have a theory. Yeah,

1964
02:28:39.280 --> 02:28:41.479
yeah, that's a good point.
Maybe it's all made up. Yeah,

1965
02:28:41.600 --> 02:28:43.120
I mean that's the only that's the
only thing I could think of. So

1966
02:28:45.559 --> 02:28:48.399
yeah, that's that's all I've got
too, because like usually we have a

1967
02:28:48.520 --> 02:28:50.719
theory, but I don't have a
theory on that one. That one's yeah,

1968
02:28:50.879 --> 02:28:54.159
that one's tough. I mean,
unless it's just that like just I

1969
02:28:54.200 --> 02:28:58.959
mean, the only guess I could
have is that it just plane every like

1970
02:28:58.559 --> 02:29:05.639
like, only he is really misremembering
where the outlet was m and then everybody

1971
02:29:05.639 --> 02:29:07.959
else is just kind of following his
lead because that's like why would they really

1972
02:29:09.079 --> 02:29:13.000
care where the outlet is? Yeah, that's the only solution I could think

1973
02:29:13.079 --> 02:29:18.200
of. Yeah, so what else
you got? Ked? Um? I

1974
02:29:18.319 --> 02:29:20.920
have another one that's kind of like
that. If you want it, I

1975
02:29:20.079 --> 02:29:24.360
want it. Okay. So this
is a weird one, and I don't

1976
02:29:24.399 --> 02:29:26.840
know. And this one is like
this did you Is this real? So

1977
02:29:28.399 --> 02:29:35.280
there's this like person and their mom
and they decide to go to a town

1978
02:29:35.479 --> 02:29:37.600
for like vacation, like like just
like an hour away from them, not

1979
02:29:37.680 --> 02:29:41.040
too far. Yeah, and I
have no idea where this is in the

1980
02:29:41.159 --> 02:29:45.040
country okay, Um, but they're
like shopping. It's got like nice shops

1981
02:29:45.040 --> 02:29:48.840
and stuff, and they go they
find a Thomas Kincaid gallery and store.

1982
02:29:50.600 --> 02:29:54.760
Okay, yeah if you don't know. Yeah, it's like an artist that

1983
02:29:54.879 --> 02:30:01.000
paints stuff with light in it and
it makes it look all um kind of

1984
02:30:01.159 --> 02:30:05.840
um like light bright making art with
light, Yeah, exactly. But it's

1985
02:30:05.879 --> 02:30:11.280
supposed to be kind of spiritual and
stuff like that. So anyway, they

1986
02:30:11.360 --> 02:30:16.239
decide to go in because the person's
mom like really likes Thomas Kincaid and actually

1987
02:30:16.319 --> 02:30:20.879
they just lost their house in wildfire
and so they lost that paint the painting

1988
02:30:22.000 --> 02:30:26.159
that they used to have over the
mantole or wherever. Right, So so

1989
02:30:26.639 --> 02:30:30.159
they go in and they see the
painting, like, oh cool, but

1990
02:30:30.239 --> 02:30:33.280
they don't have enough money because they
haven't gotten insurance money yet. But they

1991
02:30:33.360 --> 02:30:37.319
like talk to the lady and she's
and they ask her if this is a

1992
02:30:37.399 --> 02:30:39.600
temporary thing, like temporary galley,
and she's like, no, no,

1993
02:30:39.760 --> 02:30:43.760
this is like a permanent thing and
all the stuff. So she takes their

1994
02:30:45.639 --> 02:30:48.840
their number just in case they sell
the painting before they can come back,

1995
02:30:48.360 --> 02:30:54.120
and they take the stores number so
that they can call and check if they

1996
02:30:54.200 --> 02:30:58.000
get the money. And they leave, and like three months later they get

1997
02:30:58.120 --> 02:31:03.559
the money from the insurance and they
go back. Well no, they decide

1998
02:31:03.559 --> 02:31:05.600
it's a good idea to go back
and get the painting. But they call

1999
02:31:05.719 --> 02:31:09.159
first, no one answers, so
they just like, Okay, how does

2000
02:31:09.200 --> 02:31:11.959
they have the number? Did they
like do they mention like they kept a

2001
02:31:13.000 --> 02:31:16.479
card or something or they look it
up. I assume because it's now that

2002
02:31:16.639 --> 02:31:20.159
they kept it in their phone or
something. Oh okay, I don't know,

2003
02:31:20.079 --> 02:31:22.639
but they had the number, they
had been given the number, so

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they called no answer. They called
a bunch of times, no answer,

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that's okay. They go to the
place and there's not even a building there.

2006
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It's an empty lot, and they're
just like, what this had to

2007
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be this was here, and so
like they're like, maybe we misremembered where

2008
02:31:41.799 --> 02:31:46.159
it was. And they were like
going online and searching no evidence this ever

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existed here. So and then they
go across the street because there's a candy

2010
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store across the street, and they
say, like, what happened to the

2011
02:31:54.239 --> 02:31:56.920
Thomas Kincaid thing? And the person
who's like, I worked here for two

2012
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years or something. It's like,
what are you talking about. It's always

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02:32:01.319 --> 02:32:05.079
been like a parking lot across the
street. So they're like, I don't

2014
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understand it all. So I don't
remember exactly what happened next. I mean,

2015
02:32:13.479 --> 02:32:16.760
they left, but then at some
point they got a call from the

2016
02:32:16.920 --> 02:32:20.840
store saying I don't remember what.
They said like, oh, we still

2017
02:32:20.879 --> 02:32:24.840
have it. If you're still injuresous, join us, Yeah, stay here

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forever. Yeah, exactly. So
they're like, what's and they're like,

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02:32:30.200 --> 02:32:35.040
okay, well it's there. They
go back and it's there again, and

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02:32:35.799 --> 02:32:39.079
they go to the candy store across
the street and they're and they're like,

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02:32:39.239 --> 02:32:43.680
what are you talking about? So
they don't know what happened, but it's

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02:32:43.760 --> 02:32:54.479
back. That sounds like that's too
good because the going back to the candy

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02:32:54.559 --> 02:32:58.479
store is the part that makes me
go because I can imagine just being mistaken,

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02:32:58.760 --> 02:33:01.319
like when you're not from a ice, like blocks look the same.

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02:33:01.440 --> 02:33:05.799
But if they went back to the
candy store, well yeah, I mean

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02:33:05.200 --> 02:33:09.719
they yeah, exactly there they were. They were in the right spot because

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02:33:09.719 --> 02:33:13.479
it has the same candy store across
the street. So like, what happened?

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I don't know that one. That
one I can't even try to guess.

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02:33:16.360 --> 02:33:20.399
Yeah, because if they didn't have
the reconfirming of the candy store,

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I would say, oh, you
were just confused. But even then,

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like they couldn't find any evidence that
the business existed, like online, the

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number that they had didn't work all
of a sudden, like I don't know,

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no, no, I agree,
I this one's got me. Yeah.

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So well, on that note,
we're gonna get out of here.

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Thank you all so much for hanging
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