Christmas Horror Books with Cameron Chaney of “Library Macabre”

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Hello, my Spookyes and friends,
and welcome to a very special little podcast

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where I'm sitting here with the lovely, wonderful, wholesome Cameron Gea. I'm

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wholesome for Library macab Jarren. How
are you as if we weren't just talking

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for twenty minutes before we started,
I'm doing great. How are you doing?

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I'm not too bad? And this
is my favorite time of year.

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Don't get me wrong. Halloween is
a very close second Yeast time. Christmas

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is a little bit just asmich for
me. But nothing is more fun than

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spooky Christmas. Yes, and Christmas
has a long history of being spooky ghost

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stories being told on Christmas Eve.
A Christmas Carol is about three ghosts visiting

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a man, and there is no
shortage of Christmas horror media. So for

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those who don't know, Cameron has
a YouTube channel called Library Macab, which

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I highly recommend you check out.
It's all about horror paperbacks and books and

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book collecting and and just general book
nerdery, which I I've told you before.

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That's my Sunday morning. I always
watch you collecting books or whatever.

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Whenever you post a video, it's
usually around Sundays or I'll save it till

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Sunday and I pop that on when
I'm being lazy on the couch and I

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really enjoy it. So but you
join me in October and we talked about

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some books to get into the October
Halloween season mindset. But now Christmas horror.

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It's time for Christmas horror. And
I also want to mention hello to

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all the Library macab viewers were watching
this. Yeah, I kind of my

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nature nature is to hijack everything,
so give them a hello. Creeps.

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So but yeah, So this time
around, Cameron has brought us some of

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his favorite wintry holiday horror books to
talk about a little bit. And I

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got a peek at a couple while
you were digging around. I know I've

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read at least a few. Yeah, there are some familiar ones here,

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oh and some new ones that you
probably don't know about. So before we

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get to that, though, my
buddy David came by and did the same

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thing he did in October this year. He did a list of Christmas horror

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films. So I want to know
what's your top favorite. I should have

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had this prepared. It's Black Christmas. Oh really original Black Christmas. Yeah,

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Okay, So is it because of
the atmosphere. Yeah, yeah,

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that atmosphere is just oh it's beautiful. It's so so spooky, and nothing

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really unnerves me quite the way that
movie does. Still, Okay, it's

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really hard to get under my skin, but that movie really does bother me,

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okay, from even the most subtle
little moments. Well, and I

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can appreciate anybody who appreciates the slow
Burn, because that's the thing. It's

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a movie that I consider great.
But people think I'm picking on it when

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I say, like, I don't
like to watch it when I'm tired,

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because it will kind of like it
is. That's only because it's slow,

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not because it's not interesting, right, But that's interesting. I very seldom

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have friends in my age Ranger younger
who picked Black Black Christmas. It's so

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and it's got Marco Kidder in it. Who oh, she's great. In

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My favorite thing is to blow people's
minds when I saying and it's the director

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of a Christmas story. So yeah, he did two quintessential Christmas movies and

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he knows how to do that Christmas
ap yeah, so perfectly and make it

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bone chilling. Oh yeah, no, I mean I definitely have never seen

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a sorority house be so unwelcoming and
dank and eerie. I'd live there,

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honestly though, that house would.
That house is so cool. We'll just

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watching the movie and going like,
Okay, the bookshelves there, yeah there?

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Who am I kidding? Every one? Every wall one day, one

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day, my entire house, wall
to wall, book show, It's gonna

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happen. My home is like movie
posters, and I wish I had more

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walls. I always joke I have
to get a bigger house because I collect

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too many posters. And I love
posters, but most of my posters are

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like filed away somewhere because I don't
have the wall space. I need shelves.

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No, no, I mean,
and I mean the library. Macab

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You do literally have your own library, yeah, and it's it's all shelves.

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But I also have shelves now leaking
into other parts of my house.

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So I has shells in my bedroom, now shells in my living room.

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And then I've got my movie shelves
in my living room too, so my

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movie shelf is no longer one giant
one. It's also two little overflow ones

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as well. So I really I
feel you won that reckless, reckless bachelorness.

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Yes, yeah, I get that. Well, okay, so Black

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Christmas, that's a good pick.
How do you feel about the remake Black

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Exmash which remaker you talk you're talking
about the early two thousands, early two

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thousand and one. I enjoy it
for what it is, which is which

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is such a product of its time. It is massive. I actually have

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a book that I'm going to talk
about that's kind of similar in spirit to

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that. But it is just you
know, all those early two thousands,

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those what was that production company that
did like ghost Ship and oh yeah,

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Dark Castle, Dark Castle, Yeah, yea, yeah, all those movies.

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They are just like bigger than life
and just such a product of that

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of that time period. And they're
not They're not like really impressive, and

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once you're done watching them you'll probably
forget about them. But they are perfect

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to put on on like a Sunday
afternoon and just let go. No I

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could suit you especially yea. Like
when I think about like the oh gosh,

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like the remake of House on Haunted
Hill, which I think is really

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good, it is good. Well, I don't and I don't think Black

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Axbos is bad. The thing that
I noticed about Black axmis immediately is for

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the time period, very gross movie. Yeah, and that was not really

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in They really went for the whole
eyeball. Everything was about eyes. I

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saw that Milk film. I have
a very different opinion of it because I

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saw it on opening night Christmas evening, okay, and the theater I saw

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it in was passed. Okay,
so that would be so much fun and

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people were yes and holler, going
crazy. So then year, like years

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later, because you know, this
is what two thousand and seven, two

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thousand and six somewhere in there,
and and it's back when we all weren't

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so plugged in to everything in a
good ways and bad ways. I mean,

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I'm plugged in because I work in
the film business, so I like,

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if a movie interests me, I'm
following its box office, right.

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But for me, because that movie
was when I was I was like twenty,

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I found out years later that it
was a flop. Yeah. I

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had just assumed it was at least
a modest hit because the experience I had,

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everyone in town was there watching Holy
crap, and we were all having

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such a great time. I couldn't
imagine that that wasn't happening. Everywhere.

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Yeah, I was in middle school
when it came out. All my friends

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would like, go and see it. I wasn't allowed to watch movies at

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the time. Well, and that
was that wasn't a mild r that was

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Yeah. But all my friends are
talking about, like, oh my god,

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have you seen it? And I'm
like, what that movie from the

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seven that movie that would become my
favorite one day, but I don't know

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that yet. Yeah, but I
just want to mention it because it never

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gets its due, and I think
it's I think it's a fun one.

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It is every year, you know, for the most part, I try

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to throw a Christmas party, even
if it's just like a small gathering.

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And one of the rules is at
midnight we watch a movie. So at

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eleven thirty, we have that moment
where it's like, Okay, if you're

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gonna stay for a movie, then
get you know, park your keyster.

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But if not, start saying you're
goodbyes, because at midnight, the movie

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screen comes down, the film roles, and you know you can't leave because

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we'd have to lift the screen up
and no thanks, and it's always black

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x myths. No. But the
most successful time was when I showed everybody

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Black Exibis at like midnight on like
December twenty second. It just went over

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gangbusters to people were just like,
oh oh what the half of them?

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I hadn't seen it, So I
will say it's like the perfect party Christmas

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horror. I'm not gonna say it's
it's it's not. It doesn't have most

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of the cachet of that original in
the least. No, but it also

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has those little moments like when they're
when the they're going through the mental asylum

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and he's like, Merry Christmas and
he has it, and then the one

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guy is looks like Jesus and he's
he's reciting the Bible. He goes Happy

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Birthday. It's it is a lot
of fun. And no, it doesn't

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have the atmosphere of that original movie, but it does. It does have

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those Christmas feelings with all the lights. But also I'm really glad they just

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went the total opposite. Oh yeah, they kept a little bit of it,

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and honestly, they kept the stuff
about it that was interesting but not

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like a trademark of it. Like
yeah, the Girls, the Girl's Sorority,

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we see it a lot, you
know, the the Young Killer,

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we see it a lot, but
then they like really ran with it.

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I actually call the era I was
trying to think of the word I use.

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I call it like the Maxim magazine
era, where it's just like you

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look at all the actresses. You're
like, all these women were on the

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cover of Maxim magazine at some point, which was like, which was like

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an adult magazine for non adults.
It's like, here's the most here the

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top ten midriff of two thousand and
four. You know that's great anyway,

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So I just wanted to get that
out of the way. My personal one

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would have to be Silent Night,
Deadly Night. Oh yeah. I was

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actually just rewatching that the other night
to do a cutting deep into horror about

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it. And that movie is so
Christmasy to me, Like when the car

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is driving up and there's the big
Utah mountains in the background. I just

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it's so weird that I'll sit there
and watch a movie where like Santa Claus

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is hacking somebody with an accent.
I'm just sitting there with my blanke and

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going, Chris, you know,
like what's wrong with me? But that

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would be my second, my second
favorite. Also the Tales from the Crypt

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oh yeah, and all through the
house. I every Christmas if I either

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watched that or I watch the segment
from the Amicus film, Oh yes,

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yeah, because that one's great,
and they have a totally different mindset honestly,

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kind of like Black Expacy Black Christmas. One is very unsettling and simple

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and creepy, and the other one
is really bright and shiny and loud,

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and they're both really fun and there's
something about growing up. I saw the

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Tales from the Crypt first, So
Larry Drake is this, you know,

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monster Santa, and you're like,
ah, but then you watch the British

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one and it's just some crazy old
man. Yeah, there's something scarier about

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the fact that he just looks like
a guy. Yeah. I think the

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Santa from that original movie is slightly
I mean Larry Drake is great, yeah,

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but he's just so crazy it makes
me laugh, whereas the other one

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does. He's cartoony. Yeah yeah, no, yeah, the other one,

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no, there's nothing to laugh about
about, just like a slender old

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man who clearly hurts someone to get
that beard and the media eyes. So

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that's a that's another and even the
way they depict the the sleaziness of the

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mother killing her her husband in order
to get insurance money. The way they

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do it, and each one is
so different. I love when she whacks

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him on the back of the head
and then you see like it looks like

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a ketchup bottle sprays the newspaper.
Oh yeah, And in the Amicus one

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they keep it really mean spirited because
in the uh in the Tales from the

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Crypt one, they even have that
thing where it's like where the little girl

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even doesn't call him dad, so
they make it clear like she didn't just

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kill the little girl's dad. That
was a step dad. Good night Joseph.

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Yeah, but in the British one, that's her dad, that's the

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little girl's dad. It is murdered
him right there in the house while she's

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asleep in bed, straight up murked
him. So anyway, But no,

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I just wanted to get that out
of the way because I was really curious,

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honestly, m so uh but Black
Christmas, that's I deeply respect that

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choice and was not expecting it,
really. I was kind of expecting you

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to be a silent night, deadly
neck guy or maybe a maybe like a

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surprise Gremlins guy, because some of
them, of course no, you can't

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not. It's just like Gremlins is
one of those films that I think it

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it it's so passed being I mean, it is a Christmas movie, but

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it's so past being a Christmas movie
that I'll forget until I'm watching it and

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they'll be like, oh, yeah, it's very Christmas city. Yeah,

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it's one of those movies that you
can watch or quote anytime of the year,

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but it is perfect Christmas film.
I would have to have to agree.

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But yeah, it never ends up
in my top list most of the

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time because it just kind of over
other very Christmas movies, very Christmas forward.

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Yeah. Well, as a kid, my mom would be like,

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all right, we're gonna sit down
watch a Christmas movie. What do you

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guys watching my Grimlins? And she's
like, that's a Halloween movie. I'm

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like, no, it's not.
No, it's not no, it's not

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Sorry, She's like, well,
we're not watching it maybe at Halloween.

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I'm like, I don't want to
watch it at Halloween. That's a Christmas

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movie. Come on, Gizmo is
a Christmas present. They can't do that

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to me. So, but that
all being said, the other thing I

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love about Christmas season is since I
was a little kid, I would read,

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you know, because it gets cold
out, you stay inside, you

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get yourself a blanket. So that's
why we're really here. We're here to

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talk about the Christmasy books, the
books that make you scared and maybe a

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little jolly. So i'd love to
see what you've brought. You always have

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your your fascinating bag. Oh and
before we get to that, though,

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if you want to mention your new
book is out. Yeah, and it's

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called Autumn Crow High Fresh. Hell, let me punch it on the camera.

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I mean, your audience knows all
about it. But it's super fun.

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I'm halfway through it because I am
a slow readers, I'm really enjoying

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it. So it's it's the it's
the front of my kindle right now is

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just punching through that. I actually
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some of it. While I was
I was, I promised my girlfriend I

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would not uh do anything but sit
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was making pies. She was like, I just want you to rest because

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I've been way over works. Oh
I'm the one that's like that. I

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I grew up with a with a
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like, out of my kitchen,
get on up, But you're standing in

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front of the spoons. Is a
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but no, So I did want
to mention Autumn Crow High Fresh Hell definitely

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worth checking out, really definitely in
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vibe. It is for adults,
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adults. Yeah, like I label
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time, a lot of people have
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for the audience who grew up with
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not read enough Chris Pike. Yes, well that's that too. Yeah,

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because I saw I'm not gonna spoil
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Pike book in there. That's one
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rereading today. Oh really, then
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Yes, But and that's one that
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was a teenager reading it. Don't
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But first up, I see one
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made that illustration about, you know, being a kid and cozying up with

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a blanket on a winter night.
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which is Silent Night, which is
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of the earlier books in the series. Uh, one of the very one

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of the very first super chillers.
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kid and curling up next to the
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next to me and just feeling like, oh, this is Christmas. I

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love that. Chilled to the bone
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I love that one, and I
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is great, which I would have
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of, I mean, next to
Mike Couch, this is you following Riba

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Dolby who Riva Dolby. Sorry,
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who works at the Dolby department store, which her dad owns. She's

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rich, she's stuck up, she's
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beef with everybody in town. Therefore, when she starts getting threatening messages,

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it's no surprise, and she has
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maybe she'll learn a thing or two
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And then the second book will come
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and then she'll learn a thing or
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the third book will come out and
we'll just start again and again. Let's

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keep it going. I sent a
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like, please write another fear Street
book where she actually gets what she deserves.

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So refresh my memory because I get
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brain. Is that the one at
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This one's at the mall? Okay, yeah, I think two also takes

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place a big chunk at the mall. But this one that's because that's the

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thing that made it extra Christmas e
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a kid of the nineties at early
two thousands, that there's nothing more Christmas

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than the mall. Oh yes,
so Reva, Reva having to work at

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her dad's store in the mall,
which was Dulbies Aldies. I always I

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always loved that concept of like she's
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so high and mighty. She got
too good for everybody. Yeah, and

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great twists and great fake outs,
like opening a box and it's full of

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blood, but then the next one
it's like, well it looked like blood,

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but it's got that great that at
the very first chapter, it ends

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with her putting on her lipstick and
then she realizes she's bleeding and someone's put

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a needle light. That's such a
creepy. Yeah, yeah, somebody putting

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needle in her lips, which as
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this is a fake out, but
it's not. And it's in chapter one.

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I was like, oh, yeah, I'm in for a ride with

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this. Oh yeah, no,
no, I I adore that one.

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That's a solid pick, all right, silent and yeah all three. The

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third one i've only read once,
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is that the one with all the
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I've read it once and I don't
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don't think I liked it too much
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the first two books. The second
one he Ralstein got Away with it being

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more of a rehash because I'm like, oh, yeah, she's back up

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and were bolt her old schemes.
We just want so much more. But

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No Silent nighte by erl Stein,
phenomenal pick. I would pick that one.

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So what else is in this bag
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have another Fear Street book here,
and I have a Goosebumps as well,

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So another Fear Street that's not Christmas
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yes Ski weekend about these kids that
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this this cabin of some kind.
It's been a while since I've read it,

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so I'm a little foggier on this
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the house are really strange. It's
just an uncomfortable book. Maybe they don't

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actually own that. Yeah, it's
it's very unnerving actually for a Fear Street

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book. So I reread that last
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I don't think it was actually at
Christmas time, but I reread that last

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winter and really enjoyed it. I
was surprised how creepy it was. I'm

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a big fan of snow as a
as a story device, as a plot

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device, as a background because I've
always loved the idea that you can like

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see snow falling and be like,
it's beautiful, and if it doesn't stop

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for four hours, you're like,
I'm gonna die. I can't go anywhere.

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You're stuck, buddy. And that's
what this is all about. And

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I love the sweaters. Oh yeah, no, it's it's and I mean

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it's this group of kids that car
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is beginning. They end up in
this little house and yeah, the owners

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are really weird, like super weird, and I love that because it's so

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ambiguous. You don't really know what's
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in the snow and they're like,

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but who could be out here with
the weather so bad? How would they

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survive? Like all of that,
it's really good. I feel like Arlstein

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leaned into the atmosphere. And it's
very rare when a Fear Street book actually

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kind of gets under my skin,
but this one did it, so yeah,

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I liked it good. I like
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Goosebumps, which this is Beware the
Snowman, which is starting out. It

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also has that really creepy cold atmosphere, and then you get to the end

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of the book and you're like,
what's happening. There is this twist ending

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that's straight out of a Star Wars
movie and it's wild and it made me

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laugh. So it's it's very cheesy, but I love it. No,

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I haven't read that one since I
was in grade school. Maybe. Oh,

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it's so good. And there's this
rhyme in it, which is like,

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where the Snowman my child, he
brings the cold. I'm like,

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what does that mean? Oh,
you'll find out. Yes, I loved

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this one as a kid, So
that's that's a really good one. I'm

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actually right now revisiting or i've been. I've been kind of like I pick

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it up and I put it down. I picked it up and put it

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on. Arl Stein's The Snowman,
which would I believe before Fear Street one

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of his pre Fear Street point books, which I've not read really read it.

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I'm like, I got to read
that book, and then I get caught

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up with other things I've read one
you haven't. There you go. I

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can't tell you how shocked I am. I would never in a million years

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guess that I had read an arl
Stein book. You had not, so

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that's wild to me. But no, it's good. It's it's got a

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lot of fun characters. One of
the one of the main adults, he's

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described as just like having like coke
bottle glasses and oh and talking like this

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with his face all scrunched. And
I was like, that is so arl

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Stein, Like no, and uh. And one of the characters I believe

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he's called he's called like Snowman or
something like that because he has white hair.

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So it's like pretty, it's pretty
fun. It's a pretty fun one.

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You need to Yeah, I'm hoping
this Christmas if I have time.

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But like I said, I've said
that for the last like ten twelve years.

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It's a winter one, so that
helps it. You don't have Antuary,

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Yeah, yeah, it's so January
February when when they because it's you

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know, I Ohio especially it's colder
in January and February anyway, could be

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March, could be April. Honestly
enough, you want I just now I'm

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mind blown him, like I can't
believe I read when you haven't. He's

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written a lot of books. So
no, that's fair. There are some

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some holes in my ra al Stein, you know, education, but well,

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and because my introduction, my first
introduction erl Stein wasn't Fear Street or

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I mean goose Bumps. It was
Fear Street and the Point Horror books.

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So I do have like less holes
in general because my older sister was just

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handing me stuff I shouldn't have been
reading, so I got a lot of

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that stuff very early. I think
the first arl Stein book I read was

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The Boyfriend, which is a great
one to start with. No, I

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love The Boyfriend. You have a
copy of it back here, so it's

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not worth looking for right now.
But oh yeah, oh though I have

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the Girlfriend a Girlfriend, which that
one's much scarier once I went through puberty,

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So but no, I yeah,
So the Point Horror ones are the

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ones that I kind of have the
most affinity for. Those one offs are

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really fun, I mean Beach House
and they're all just a hoot. But

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you know, I really love Ski
Weekend. I'm glad you brought that one

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up, because I feel like I
never hear anything about it. Yeah,

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now as many people talk about it, and I'm always like, actually,

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it's really good. I just found
it read it. I found it because

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I searched arl Stein Snow and I
found the Snowman, which I turned out

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I already had in my closet because
around like, oh there it is,

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and I remember that cover. I
mean that cover made me go, I

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think that that is around here somewhere. But yeah, then Ski Weekend and

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Silent Night were the ones I found
immediately when I searched Arlestein Snow, so

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because I was I was getting ready
to get cozy for a winter. Those

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are great, great little trilogy there, Oh yeah, and not connected in

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any way. So what else do
you have, my friend? Well,

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I guess we should go ahead and
talk about slumber Party. So I have

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you have the British one. I
have two British Cops actually the other ones

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in my car because that was the
one I was reading at work. I

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meant to bring it with me.
But this is the US one, the

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point book. And then this is
one of the British editions, which has

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an amazing cover with that snowman on
fire. The other one also has a

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snowman on fire, but it's more
of like a painted scene. Oh okay,

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like the house in the background.
It's very cool too. Yeah,

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slumber party about a bunch of friends
who are on a ski weekend together.

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Sound familiar and staying in this house
they know a big storm is going to

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come in. The only thing is
that they made a little booboo when they

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were kids and accidentally burned their friend's
sister alive, which is like, you

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do, I mean, it happens, guys. So they're all living with

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this, and they're going to meet
up with the sister of the girl who

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had died, and things are very
tense between all of them, and they're

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about to be snowed in together,
so that's even better. That is my

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favorite Pike book. It's great,
It's super good. The survival elements in

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it are like my favorite part peepy
on Hands. I was literally about to

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mention that, Yeah, there's a
part where girl her hands won't work anymore

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because they're so cold, so she
sticks them down her pants and peas on,

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which would work, right, So
I mean, I can't fault him.

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like, buh, she did what
what now? That was one when I

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was digging through my box of books
when I was a teenager. I found

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that and immediately started reading it,
especially because I was like at that point,

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like fourteen or fifteen. So I
saw the slumber party and I was

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thinking slumber party massacre. I did
a swordy house massacre. You know,

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I'm already very different. Well,
I mean obviously, I mean I knew

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it was a young adult book,
you know, which I was a young

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adult I should be reading this was
how had it been since you read it

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before I read it. I read
it last time. I was probably three

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years ago, maybe two years and
then I'm reading it again for another book

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club, so I was like,
well, I've read it recently, but

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I want to make sure I'm fresh. I enjoyed it more this time around

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than I did the first thing.
It's really good. Yeah. It Actually

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I wrote a screenplay not too long
ago that I feel like was heavily inspired

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by it. I just because it
was a group of people. They're stuck

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in a house and somebody that you
really don't suspect turns out to be not

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who they say they are. And
after I wrote it, I was like,

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that's it wasn't that much, but
it was a little bit like slumber

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Party. So No, I took
a twist. That's such a fun one.

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And no, that's straight up my
favorite pike. So and man,

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can I look at that real?
Yeah? Go ahead, Gosh, that's

405
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:04.200
beautiful, isn't it great? So
I had ordered this one off of thrift

406
00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:07.960
books, thinking I was going to
get the other cover, thinking I would

407
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:11.559
never have a chance in hell of
getting this one. This one was featured

408
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.039
in Paperbacks from Hell and it's very
collectible. But then they sent it to

409
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.519
me and it was this one,
and it's so wonderful condition. So I

410
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:22.640
was really happy to get that.
That's so cool. Yeah, I love

411
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:29.119
Snowman blood coming out of crying tears
of blood. Eight years later and it

412
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:33.039
was happening again. No, I
so so good. So, like I

413
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.880
said, I enjoyed it even more
this time around. Uh it's I read

414
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.519
it really quick, like and less
than a day this time around, which

415
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:44.119
before I think it took me a
little longer for some reason. Maybe it

416
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:47.640
was just the mood I was in. But it's just got the drama of

417
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:49.519
the girls, and it's not even
just like, oh, we killed your

418
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:53.000
sister. Sorry. It's also like
all the petty stuff that you want from

419
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:56.359
a young adult boo. It's the
team goodness, you know, teens being

420
00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.519
teens. Yeah, they're they're all
feuding after the same guy, which is

421
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:03.640
its great. I like reading It's
not realistic, but I like reading about

422
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:08.319
that stuff. Wait, Chris Pike
book not realistic? You clearly you have

423
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:12.920
been hitting the egg now No,
no, I'm but no. That's that's

424
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:15.640
when I could nerd about so hard
because not only did I read it,

425
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.839
but it left a lasting impression on
me because I remember I saw you post

426
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:22.759
about it on Instagram that you were
going on a book club. Immediately comes

427
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.359
to love that. Yeah, that
one's so good. It's great, and

428
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:30.039
I'm excited to talk about it on
the book club too. Mention mention what

429
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.720
it is or it's called the Point
Horror book Club. It's on Instagram,

430
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.039
so it's gonna be like an Instagram
love Okay, yeah yeah, yeah.

431
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:41.279
So you can just look up the
at symbol at Point Horror book Club and

432
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:44.519
I'll bring you there. That's something
I should be subscribed to, so I

433
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:48.599
will be. Yeah. She's great. Her name is Shelley. She's lovely

434
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:53.400
and British and she's got that beautiful
British Point Horror collection. Of all those

435
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.839
like really nice colors on the spines. Let me tell you something about the

436
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:04.640
British Point horror books sorry, and
British books in general. I hate how

437
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:08.799
some of them are so good because
I have so much nostalgia for the American

438
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:11.920
Yeah, so I'll be like,
oh, I love that one, I

439
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:15.000
love this one, and then I
look at like that slumber phone. I'm

440
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.720
like, it's freaking dope. You
can't. I can't pretend I get front.

441
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:22.000
Some of them are better, like
some of them use the same covers

442
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:25.279
as the US one, very similar
or they're similar, but some of them

443
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:27.039
are just like I look at them
like that's better than what we got.

444
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:32.240
I'm a little jealous. And also
they have that good branding, so like

445
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:36.799
yeah, and for us here I'm
gonna grab it again. White books,

446
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:41.640
we're just like this generic like little
point Yeah. So it was hard to

447
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.920
like kind of tell if one of
them was like a point book, whereas

448
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:48.880
for the UK books, they just
say point horror, real big, and

449
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.880
they're all very uniform and they all
look so pretty on the shelf. I'm

450
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.559
like, so, how am I
going to come with a secret? This

451
00:28:55.640 --> 00:29:00.200
is a point horror, don't worry
you like it, you know, to

452
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.559
find some way to collect all of
those UK editions, I think, all

453
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.880
right, here's what we do.
We launched a gofund movies, send us

454
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.119
both to England, and then we
find them all. But we'll be out

455
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:12.160
of money at that point, so
then we have to find them by just

456
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:18.680
like brutalizing people, just like don't
Open until Christmas, will go don't go

457
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:26.599
away weekly, spooky, We'll be
right back. Oh yes, I just

458
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.079
watched that and I loved it.
You'd seen it before? Was it your

459
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.160
first? My first time? Yeah? Did you have the vincent? Yeah?

460
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.440
Man, I had been watching that
movie for years in the ugliest transfers,

461
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.799
and now Vinigar syndrome is blessed us, as they always do. I

462
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.799
had cheated because a few years earlier
I bought the Spanish Blu ray, which

463
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.079
I don't know if it was the
same transfer, but it looked better.

464
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:55.559
Thank goodness, because in Europe that
movie is not public domain, so it's

465
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:57.359
you know, it only gets proper
releases. As to we're here, I

466
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.559
mean it is everywhere you can a
movie you'll find a copy of Don't Open

467
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:04.960
until Christmas. We actually talked about
that On my new podcast do You Even

468
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.599
Movie? We went like on a
deep dive about that ridiculous movie just to

469
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.759
watch it. Oh you, you'd
probably get a real kick out of it.

470
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:14.359
We talked for an hour and ten
minutes about don't open until Christmas,

471
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.720
because why wouldn't you. There's a
lot to talk about with that movie,

472
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.559
and I love that it's mostly just
guys, just as Santa getting killed off

473
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:25.920
the whole movie. It's wonderful and
the making of them behind the scenes content.

474
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:26.880
Have you looked at it yet on
the disc? Not yet? You

475
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.000
got a chance? Is crazier than
you imagine. Real. I mean,

476
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:34.000
like people getting fired, them just
going into bars and grabbing drunk guys and

477
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:38.039
putting them in Santa suits real quick
for fifty bucks. Really, it's super

478
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:42.559
super fun. That movie was so
deeply troubled. Wow. Well usually you

479
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:47.759
can tell while watching a movie,
but I felt like it was pretty well

480
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:52.000
made altogether. I mean, I
think that movie is what's the term what

481
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.400
I could do? Yeah, I
mean it's so nuts. I actually that

482
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:59.640
movie helped me coin the term absurdity
fatigue, which is where a movie is

483
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.839
so obsd that you're unable to remember
all of the absurdity. You'll sit there

484
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:04.880
and be like, dude, that
movie's insane, and as you're watching,

485
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:08.359
you're like, I forgot about how
crazy it was though, because like your

486
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.519
brain just gives up. It's like, yeah, I remember this part in

487
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:14.440
this part, what about that part, and you're like, yeah, this

488
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.759
movie's completely insane. It's like those
because a lot of them, those wild

489
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:22.119
Italian horror movies pull that off,
like Hell of the Living Dead or Nightmare

490
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.079
City. Oh oh yeah, yeah. Nemare City is my favorite. That's

491
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.400
that's a movie you could put on
for any crowd anytime and everyone will have

492
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.319
a great thing. You showed that
at one of the horror movie May Yeah,

493
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.240
I was there. Oh man.
My favorite part about showing that to

494
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.480
anybody who's never seen it is they'll
be like, this movie's ridiculous, and

495
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:38.839
then you could lean over and be
like, just wait till they get to

496
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.359
the aerobic studio. Yes, and
they're like ha ha what And then there's

497
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:45.640
an aerobic studio and you're like,
yeah, zombies are about to rampage this

498
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.640
aerobic studio too. I think it
was one of the last movies you showed

499
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.920
that night, so everybody was kind
of slap happy or half asleep and everyone's

500
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:53.759
like, what's going on? And
I was like, don't worry, you

501
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.440
all are gonna wake up. Yeah, you're about to seriously wake up.

502
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.880
It was really good placement to you. No, that movie We'll get you.

503
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:06.599
And unlike most of those crazy Italian
movies that barely make any sense,

504
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:12.680
that one like, usually they start
strong and then fall apart. But that

505
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:17.039
one like starts insane and then slowly
gathers a plot. Yeah, bow,

506
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:22.119
it actually makes sense in the last
twenty minutes. And usually it's the total

507
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.000
opposite. It just falls apart.
It's all chaos. You don't know who

508
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:28.519
anybody is anymore. Yeah, But
no, that one Nightmare City, man,

509
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:35.000
it delivers. I love that movie
and one time I watched that.

510
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.599
The first time I watched Nightmare City
as an adult, it was on Netflix

511
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:42.079
briefly. Oh really, yeah,
this was like seven eight years ago.

512
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.319
It was the most Netflix movie.
I was with a friend and we were

513
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:51.000
staying at her family's little beach house. It's a little house near Long Beach

514
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:55.119
Island, and long story short,
I was in one bedroom and she was

515
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:59.960
another, but then out of nowhere, her boyfriend they ended up breaking up

516
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.519
shortly thereafter. He had like this
through this fit. He was like,

517
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:06.039
you guys can't stand the same place
together. It makes me uncomfortable. So

518
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.440
she had to leave me and go
forty minutes and she was like, I'll

519
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.519
just come back first thing in the
morning, and I was like okay.

520
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:14.839
So she leaves. So I'm sitting
in this place I don't know, in

521
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.839
the dark, watching my phone before
bed, and I'm like, this isn't

522
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:22.880
even a scary movie, but I'm
getting kind of scary. Yeah. So

523
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.680
that's my favorite Nightmare City memory.
There you go, Oh what a movie.

524
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.680
But no, uh yeah, don't
hope Until Christmas is so much fun,

525
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.359
yeah, I mean and just pure
insanity. Yeah, I'm glad I

526
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.279
finally got to watch it because I've
wanted to watch it last yeah, several

527
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.839
years. Found out about it and
I saw that awesome poster art. Oh

528
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:45.039
with the knife and the Christmas present? What's that? So? Are you

529
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:49.319
a Christmas Evil guy? I love
Christmas Evil. He's one of the best

530
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:51.519
films. I mean, it's not
even I mean, it's kind of a

531
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.440
horror movie. It's got horrific moments, but that's just a great movie.

532
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:59.319
Yeah, very well. Acted,
and just the descent into madness and the

533
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:02.799
psychoge stuff going on there is really
fascinating. And then that ending, it's

534
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.680
like, what really happened? Did
that really happen? That's what happened too.

535
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:09.159
That's where I am too. I'm
like, I hope that actually happened,

536
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:14.280
which it probably didn't really probably not, but I want that to have

537
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.960
really happened. That's one of my
one of my favorite Christmas movies ever because

538
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:23.679
there's something so magical about the idea
of like making yourself Santa Claus and then

539
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:29.760
like the fact that the massacrering is
only like about a third of what he

540
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:32.639
does is Saint Nick. He also
gives toys to orphans and all the stuff.

541
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:36.639
It's like, it's really great.
The really creepy stuff is when he's

542
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:38.880
like spying on the kids. Yeah, it's like, yeah, this is

543
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:44.119
unnerving. It actually does make me. And he has the list with all

544
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:45.480
the things they do that are good
or bad, and you're like, this

545
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:51.480
is so creepy, and it's like, homie there he's just being san don't

546
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:53.119
mind me, I'm just being sick. And all the carols we've heard it.

547
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.440
Yeah, he knows when you're sleeping, he knows in you're a way,

548
00:34:55.599 --> 00:35:02.679
He's got a knife. I have
a question for you. Silent Night,

549
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:07.079
Deadly Night, Part five The Toy
Maker. Okay, I see your

550
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:13.119
reactions. Deadly five, Yes,
that to me is like the most underrated

551
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:19.400
Christmas horror movie because it is pure
bonkers. And you've got Mickey Rooney who

552
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.400
hated Silent Knight, Deadly Night,
and then here he is in Silent I

553
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:28.000
Deadly Night five for your money,
right, just like what is happening?

554
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:32.039
I love that movie. I love
the skates the kids wear and where it's

555
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:37.920
like spinning them around. You're like
wa he Mickey Rooney plays a toy maker

556
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:43.760
who makes toys that kill the kids. In my opinion, of all of

557
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.199
the original five, Silent Night,
Deadly Nights, one in five are the

558
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:51.440
absolute most Christmas y. Yes,
like I won't say that that five is

559
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.400
the best one, but it is
all about Christmas. Is all toys and

560
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:59.199
shopping and lights, and part one
is very Christmasy. Two is where two

561
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:01.559
is that Christmas y. But it's
fun as hell. It's great. It's

562
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:05.440
a great movie. But yeah,
not as Christy. Three and four have

563
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:09.440
like the amount of Christmas necessary,
but man, one in five, it's

564
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:14.159
just all Christmas all the way through. I love all of them. I

565
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:15.599
was so happy when that Blu ray
came out so we could get three,

566
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:20.960
four and five on this because I
had had I had that out of print

567
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.079
DVD and before that, I had
VHS rips that I had found on the

568
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:27.719
internet. So I was and I've
always been a big three, a big

569
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.400
Part three fan. A lot of
people crap on that one, but I

570
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.239
think it's super fun. It's a
good follow up to the Yeah Too well,

571
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:39.599
you know, and Bill Moseley being
the muted brain exposed Ricky. It's

572
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:45.239
just it's and it's it's got this
undertone of weirdness that I really like.

573
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:47.559
So I I just I've always loved
three. That's why I have the original

574
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:52.000
one sheet in my living room,
because you know, well, first I

575
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.599
looked for like thirteen years to find
I found it at a I found it

576
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:58.760
online at a Canadian video store that
was going out of business. They had

577
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:00.280
it in the back room, so
they were it off. And that's the

578
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.599
funny thing. Some of the posters
I'll look for forever. When I finally

579
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:06.320
find him, it's like fifteen bucks
because nobody wanted it. It just didn't

580
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.320
exist, right. That's the reason
why, is that nobody knew anybody wanted

581
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:15.000
it? Yeah? Yeah, So
anyway, there's something to love about all

582
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.280
the silent at deadly Night movies.
I really do believe that. I mean

583
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.519
the first Christmas when I came back
to Ohio from living in Jersey, I

584
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:27.599
watched all five in one sitting because
I had nowhere to be on Christmas Day,

585
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:31.480
so I just I downloaded them because
you couldn't even get anything but part

586
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:36.039
one at that point. Yeah,
And I watched them just straight through,

587
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.159
and when it was over, I
was like, what a great series.

588
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:44.760
You never know what you're gonna get. You really don't, especially with part

589
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.440
four. Yeah, It's like what
is this? And then I watched Part

590
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:52.159
four. I'd seen The Toymaker so
many times and I was watching it last

591
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.960
year and I'm like, is that
the same lady from part four? Yeah?

592
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.320
I was like, oh, wait
a second. She says that thing

593
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.480
about you should have seeing what happened
to me last year at Christmas time.

594
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:05.960
I'm like, wait a minute,
is that her? That was right?

595
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:08.679
But it took me many years to
realize that, and that one Toymaker,

596
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.480
I believe was directed by I want
to say Martin Katrasser was his name.

597
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.599
He became Tarantino's like go to editor
for years and years and years he was

598
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.039
an editor, and that was his
first film as a director. So it's

599
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.800
just kind of a cool little piece
of trivia about it because screaming Mad George,

600
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:28.199
Yes, the effects who's a master. Well because Brian Musena of Beyond

601
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:32.079
of bride Reanimator and Society Fame.
He directed Part four and then was part

602
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:37.239
of the producing of Part five.
Okay, so that's where where like a

603
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:39.400
lot of the same effects people were
employed and stuff like that for it.

604
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.800
And four is just wacky as hell. Yeah, I mean can't, you

605
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:47.360
can't. It's about a cult,
but it's about like feminism, but it's

606
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:53.199
about witches, but it's about giant
insects, but it's about slime. It's

607
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:57.920
not what you'd expect from a Silent
Night, Deadly Night movie, but it

608
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:01.199
is very interesting. It's the folloween
three of Silent Night. Yes, No,

609
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:04.519
that's a very good way to put
it. Yeah, And that's a

610
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.079
good example of absurdity fatigue because I've
had friends tell me, like, I

611
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.840
like that one but like it's like
such a cashing, like it's not even

612
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:13.719
said at Christmas, and I'm like, no, there's Christmas lights and stuff,

613
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.440
but so much insane stuff's happening.
You just went blind. Yeah,

614
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:21.719
you know, you just couldn't keep
up, and rightfully so that if any

615
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:25.079
movie is going to blind you with
bizarre craziness, that's it's Silent and Deadly

616
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:29.440
Night four. So but no,
yeah, all the Silent Night, Deadly

617
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.800
Night movies. I uh, we're
talking about the first one. I told

618
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:37.480
my co host on a cutting deep
I told her, I'm like a proud

619
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.119
Mormon father. I know all my
five children very well and love them each

620
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.039
for what they for who they are. That's how I feel about Silent identity.

621
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.360
Like one through five. They all
have something to love, they do,

622
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:53.599
damn it, and I take the
time to get to know each of

623
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:59.320
them personally. So but what else
you got in that magic? So let's

624
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.239
see, let's see. I'm gonna
stick with the y theme for now.

625
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:07.079
Okay, we have a very interesting
one here, very deep cut. This

626
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:12.000
one is so this is part of
the Nightmare Club series, which is basically

627
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:17.199
fear Street Point Horror, just very
bottom of the Barrel. I never heard

628
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:22.000
of this. It is a series
of I think like ten twelve books.

629
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:25.199
There's also another series from the same
line. The line is called z Fave,

630
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:29.880
which is Zebra Zebra Books. They
had a young adult line which is

631
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.880
called z Fave, and the other
series is called Scream, which is basically

632
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.280
the same kind of thing. The
only thing about the Nightmare Club that's set

633
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.079
there is a link between all the
books. The kids like to go to

634
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:43.679
this place called like the night Owl
Club, I think, and they hang

635
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:46.400
out. That's kind of the only
thing they have in common. They're all

636
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:52.000
by different authors, they all follow
different characters. This one I read and

637
00:40:52.079 --> 00:41:00.360
it really shocked me because it is
dark and mean spirited, basically kind of

638
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:06.800
a revenge story. You've got this
girl who is dealing with like sexual assault

639
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:12.320
at her school. She's trying to
reach out to the teachers and the staff

640
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:14.719
of the school, and no one's
really taking it seriously because it's is set

641
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:21.239
in ninety three, sure, sure, and she's really struggling and like struggling

642
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.679
with thoughts of like taking a girl
life. And it gets really dark and

643
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.880
it goes some places toward the end
of the story. I'm like God,

644
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.840
that's like the most depressing, bleak
thing I've read in a while. But

645
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:38.360
if you are up for it,
up for the challenge, it's got a

646
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:43.559
lot to think about. I look
at that from so this is the Nightmare

647
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:49.079
Club. Yes, sleigh ride and
great great artwork, super fun art.

648
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.320
They all have great artwork. There's
also like a hotline in the back of

649
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.039
the book where it's like, teenagers, if you're dealing with this, call

650
00:41:54.119 --> 00:42:00.519
this. So it was like really
had very positive things that that wanted to

651
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.760
convey to their audience. But at
the same time, damn, it's a

652
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:06.559
dark book. Yeah, I want
to read I'm gonna I'm gonna have to

653
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:08.800
find one of the Are they relatively
easy to find? No? No,

654
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:14.679
Damn, I'm sad to say no. They took me a long time to

655
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.760
find most of these books. There's
not very many of them, but it

656
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:22.800
makes sense. I mean that I'd
never heard of the series. I'd never

657
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:27.239
heard of that title. Nothing.
There's another Christmas one that's set in the

658
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.800
Scream series, which is like My
True Love Gave to Me, has a

659
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.360
great cover of like a there's like
a Christmas ornament and you see like the

660
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.280
girl's face and she's screaming, and
there's like the reflection of a knife coming

661
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.280
down. Sadly, the book isn't
very good, but of course this one

662
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:45.880
is shockingly dark and I liked it, but like, proceed with caution.

663
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:51.039
It's gonna wreck your holidays. Well
that's what you want, you know,

664
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:54.320
you wanted to destroy your whole holiday, So that one, I'm actually I'm

665
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:59.519
gonna put that into my little note. Is that what it's called? Right?

666
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.639
And what's the book series? Again? The Nightmare Club? And the

667
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:08.239
author is Nick Baron, who has
written quite a few books. There's like

668
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:15.159
two reviews on Amazon. I mean
not impossibly expensive. Yeah, to get

669
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:19.760
it in like acceptable condition is like
twenty two ninety nine. I mean,

670
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.239
no, that's that's a lot for
a paperback, very good copy going for

671
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:25.880
seventy eight dollars, well sixty,
I guess I can only buy seven then,

672
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.880
jeez, yeah, no, I
mean this is I mean, I've

673
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.079
been obviously one of the reasons I
got excited to talk to you about stuff

674
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:36.239
was because I, although not to
your level, but I totally collect paperbacks

675
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.360
here and there. In fact,
I just bought some paperbacks for a friend.

676
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:42.840
But I can't say more because he's
definitely probably listening to this. Uh

677
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.320
but I like, I was excited
to give a gift. I bought a

678
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:47.800
lot on eBay, uh huh,
and I'm really excited to send it to

679
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:52.639
him. Uh But so I definitely
seeing this the fact that like the cheapest

680
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:57.960
one is eighteen sixty two with four
dollars shipping. That's expensive. Yeah,

681
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:02.320
for a like kind of forgotten book. All of the books in the series

682
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:06.280
tend to be really expensive. Sure, well they didn't print a lot of

683
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:09.320
them. I would assume. No, Man, it is recommended, though,

684
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:14.320
I'm gonna just add that to the
little Carterino. I might have just

685
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:19.239
gotten paid. And what do I
need? I need more books that I'm

686
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.760
struggling to find out I read.
I mean, that's why you're here.

687
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:24.840
You're here to help us all,
help us all buy too many books exactly

688
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:29.239
because it's what everybody comments on my
videos, like I love your videos,

689
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:31.880
but it's really bad for my wallet. And I'm like, I'm sorry mine

690
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:36.280
too. I've probably bought eight or
nine point horror books that just because I

691
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.000
saw them on your chap. So
I yeah, lots above that. I'm

692
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:43.159
closing in on all of the point
horror books. I'm only looking for a

693
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:46.559
couple more. Really, he's a
lot of them, I mean, yeah,

694
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:50.360
that's why I'm impressed. I mean, but at the same time,

695
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:55.559
if not you who yeah, you
know, don't go away weekly Spooky will

696
00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:04.320
be right back. I wanted to
mention real quick side note about Slumber Party.

697
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.800
I love that book so much.
There was a podcast I don't name

698
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:09.440
it namely mainly because I don't remember
the name of it, but that they

699
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:14.400
talk a lot about like ya books, and I was all excited to listen

700
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.679
to it and then they tore it
apart. They were like, really mean

701
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:21.719
to it, and that's why I
was like, I'm never listening to this

702
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:24.239
podcast again. Like these people know
nothing. I feel like a lot of

703
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:29.480
the podcasts that talk about those books
are like that. And I read one

704
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.639
book called Paperback Crush, which was
like a Paperbacks from Hell basically, but

705
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:37.360
for teen books, okay, And
most of the book was spent just the

706
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:42.800
author tearing these books apart. And
I'm like, it's fun. This is

707
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.719
not fun. This isn't a We're
not here for high art people. We

708
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.840
like Chris Pike book, right,
we like, are you familiar with the

709
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.000
term pot boiler. So there's a
term in the movie business and sometimes in

710
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:57.159
books where a script or something will
be or a movie will be called a

711
00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:00.639
pot boiler, and that literally means
that you wrote it to keep the electricity

712
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.480
on so that your pot could boil
water. That's where the term comes from.

713
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:09.840
And I love pot boilers because sometimes
you find the most bizarre, creative

714
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:15.079
stuff. And the kings of pot
boilers were Chris Pike, r l Stein,

715
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:20.639
Diane Hoe, all those people VC
Andrews that would just pump out book

716
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:22.920
after book after book after book.
And you know they weren't. I mean,

717
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.880
I'm sure that at some points they
were making really nice money. But

718
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.960
you don't write twelve books in a
year. If you're making really good money

719
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.480
on every single one, you know
you're doing it because you need to pay

720
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.400
some bills, You've got some you
know, you have a new baby boy

721
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:40.199
and his adult teeth are coming in
and they're all crooked, so you gotta

722
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:45.960
write more books. So but I
love that. I love when you're reading

723
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:50.079
a book and you can tell that
like a grown adult who's very creative,

724
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:55.280
is you can see them reaching for
straws. It always ends up being fun

725
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.519
that's the way I feel it.
It's the same thing with like watching like

726
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:02.320
like the Freddy's Nightmares TV series.
Now, Andy and my buddy just finished

727
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:07.440
our podcast. We reviewed all forty
four episodes wonderful and but some of my

728
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.159
favorite episodes are the ones where I
could really tell they were like, what

729
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:15.119
the hell else do we do?
Yeah? What about just go for it.

730
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.360
They're in an underground a nuclear missile
silo, and it's like, this

731
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:22.480
is Freddy's Nightmare, okay, And
then they there's Freddie rides a nuclear bomb

732
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:27.639
in that episode in the host segment. He's literally this new clear bomb.

733
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.000
That's great. And all I could
think was like I love that. Real

734
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:35.360
adults that were real professionals were like, uh, this is what we're doing.

735
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:37.159
And Robert England was like, all
right, cool, Robert, I'm

736
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.320
gonna hop on this missile. Robert
Ingland's just like, man, I make

737
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:45.760
a lot of money right now,
all right, but but anyway, so,

738
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:50.039
but but I hate when people just
all they do is tear things down.

739
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.320
Is why I don't listen to a
lot of movie podcasts. That new

740
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.840
podcast do you even movie? Which
you know we have the little logo right

741
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:59.079
there that's one of the things we
put in the descriptions. We're not reviewers,

742
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.199
were enthusiasts, because we have no
desire to review movies you don't like.

743
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:05.400
You know, I used to review
books all the time on YouTube,

744
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.760
and I didn't like it because I
don't like to be super critical. I

745
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:10.639
just like to, you know,
read it and enjoy it. And if

746
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:14.199
I don't like it, I don't
like to talk about it. Sure,

747
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:16.599
because I like to recommend things.
I don't want to like disrecommend something.

748
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:21.119
But anyway, there are some reviews
where I'll go back and watch it or

749
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:24.079
I'll read it on Goodreads and I'm
like, I hate you to yourself.

750
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:29.960
My god, I'm so glad you
changed, which I feel like that's that's

751
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:31.719
a big thing of growing up,
is like if you don't look back on

752
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:35.800
yourself all those years ago and you
don't kind of like, oh hate you,

753
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.119
yeah, and then you've not grown. No, you're I mean,

754
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:40.320
man, we're getting deep. I
like it. Oh no no, no,

755
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.639
you don't please please no, no. You're totally right though, And

756
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:45.760
that's and that's kind of that's kind
of why I was so bummed when I

757
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.639
found this podcast, because I figured
like, how could you not love this

758
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:53.920
book? How could you not love
these silly books that were always silly and

759
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:58.679
instead they were just like tearing them
down for like dated references, for like

760
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:01.639
things that are not very politically correct
now, and I'm like, dude,

761
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:05.800
you know what this is. It
was written in eighty five. Yeah,

762
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:09.320
yeah, and it was written for
kids, basically for teenagers. It's it

763
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:14.280
wasn't refined heavily. And then the
worst play is one of the hosts like

764
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.159
wrote their own ya book or two, and they would just keep mentioning like

765
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:21.239
how theirs don't make those mistakes,
And I'm like, well, great,

766
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:23.119
where were you in eighty five?
Right, well you're probably gleaming your father's

767
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.320
eyes. But still, I mean
I was in eighty five At best,

768
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:30.920
I wasn't gleaming with my father's But
anyway, I massively digress. What else

769
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:37.000
is in your Magic Sacho Book?
Okay? I've been looking forward to talking

770
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.840
about this one because this is the
one that I was talking about being a

771
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.199
lot like black x miss. Okay, So this is a brand new book.

772
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:46.920
This literally just came out a month
ago and I've already read it.

773
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:51.119
It's called well, it's part of
the Killer VHS series. I've heard of

774
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:52.960
that. Yeah, yeah, there's
another one in this series which let me

775
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.760
find what it's called. I don't
have it and I've not read it yet,

776
00:49:55.760 --> 00:50:00.719
but it's like Attack of the melon
Head or something. It's sounds awesome,

777
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:02.920
Is it about the melon heads?
Like the legend that kind of started?

778
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.519
I think I think so. But
yeah, this is Candy Cane Kills.

779
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.880
You got a family going to stay
in this house for Christmas. They're

780
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:15.760
having issues, like the parents are
fighting all the time and on the verge

781
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:21.280
of divorce. You've got the son
who's like secretly gay and doesn't want to

782
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.920
tell his family, and you've got
the daughter who she's in a wheelchair and

783
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.639
she's like, don't don't help me. I got it. I can do

784
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:31.039
this. So they're all just kind
of like fed up with each other.

785
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:35.039
But they're like, let's go out
to a cabin for Christmas and let's see

786
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:38.800
if we can get our stuff together
somewhere somewhere beautiful where no one can hear

787
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:45.840
us scream. Right, And then
it does morph into that black Xmas kind

788
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:50.719
of vibe where you've got the legend
of this killer. They call her Candy

789
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:59.800
cane and she's apparently still somewhere abouts
because people are turning up dead, and

790
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:05.480
it's it's a good time. It's
nothing deep. Yeah, you're going to

791
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:07.559
read this and you probably won't remember
too much about it in a few months.

792
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.000
But that's what's great about it.
It's like one of those movies you

793
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:15.119
pop on on a Sunday and you
read it and you just enjoy it and

794
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.599
you go with the flow. It's
crazy and bonkers. Well and you know,

795
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:22.599
and and I guarantee that is going
to be someone's favorite book. Oh

796
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.119
yeah, you know. That's the
other great thing about about books, movies,

797
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:29.599
TV shows is like you can you
can say, like, you know,

798
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:30.519
we all have our different opinions.
Some movies are for you know,

799
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.880
drinking beer and eating nachos, and
some movies are really focusing on same with

800
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:37.800
books. But that's the thing I
always try to remember anytime I judge or

801
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.639
criticize anything, I'm like, this
is probably somebody's favorite. Yeah. And

802
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:45.000
that's the beauty of it though,
is that like one person's like quick read

803
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.159
that they'll never remember is another person's
all time favorite. And that's one of

804
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:50.840
my big things when I do review
books, It's like, I'm not telling

805
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:55.320
you don't read this because you will
probably love it, so read it by

806
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:59.360
only. Just because I say I
don't like something, it does not mean

807
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:02.000
I'm not recommending it to you.
But I do recommend this. I think

808
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:05.360
is a fun time if you like
a slasher, if you like a gory

809
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:10.599
slasher, and you like something that
goes off the rails and is very unrealistic

810
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:14.559
at the end of the day,
this is perfect. Like this, wrote

811
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:19.840
Warren Fodder. Look at that.
Yeah, smooth. I wrote it on

812
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.000
my little list. I'm gonna grab
one of those. Yeah. I thought

813
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.000
it was pretty fun. And it's
a quick read too, like you'll sit

814
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:27.360
down and read it in a couple
of days. Yeah. And I'm big

815
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.760
on the quick reads. So I
have a book recommend for you, okay,

816
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:32.159
which I wish I had the physical
copy of but I don't. But

817
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:37.079
it's a crazy quick read, uh
huh. And it's called The Last Ghost

818
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:42.159
Master. It is a true book. It's a nonfiction book about a guy

819
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:46.239
named Doug Hobart. Doug Hobart was
the uncle of Barry Hobart, doctor Creep

820
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:53.159
Dayton's own Dayton's Own horror host.
But Doug Hobart had the Last spook Show

821
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:58.400
in Ohio. Okay, it's called
The Last ghost Master The Last ghost Master.

822
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:01.440
If if it doesn't come up right
away, search Doug Hobart as well.

823
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:06.840
Okay, But this book is about
how Doug went from a guy who

824
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:12.760
worked at an aerospace company to having
a very very successful spook show by doing

825
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:19.079
insane things on stage, to becoming
a dancer, to becoming a traveling performer,

826
00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:22.880
to becoming that's the one this looks
cool, to becoming a movie effects

827
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:28.519
person. It's a crazy story and
almost all of it takes place in Middletown

828
00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:32.559
because that's where he's from, so
he ended up in Florida inevitably. But

829
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:37.679
that's who inspired doctor creep Berry to
get into show business, was his crazy

830
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.360
uncle Doug. Very cool. Yeah, I've never heard of it. It

831
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:45.639
just came out the day before Thanksgiving. I got it on Kindle and read

832
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:47.599
it the night before Thanksgiving, all
in one go. It's not very long,

833
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:52.079
but it's super fascinating. It's like
dense with interesting stuff. Awesome,

834
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:57.480
and I honestly this was faster than
an email, I guess because I meant

835
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.000
to just send you a link.
But instead, I'll tell you right here,

836
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.440
but that book you will enjoy it. It's really I would probably if

837
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:07.400
you get the paperback. It's very, very very thin, but totally worth

838
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:09.079
your time. I'll order it for
sure. That sounds great. And it's

839
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:13.719
got like all the ads from like
the Tip City Theater, like come to

840
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:19.400
Spook Show with the corpse vanishes afterward, because they would perform on stage and

841
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:21.440
then when they were done, the
screen would come down and they'd show a

842
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:23.280
scary movie and then at the end
of the screen would come up back up

843
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:27.000
and they do like two more magic
tricks or something, and then they'd get

844
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:30.440
out of there. People would come
and like scream and throw things, and

845
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:32.840
it was it was crazy. And
he had the Wolfman in Frankenstein battle on

846
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:37.760
stage in front of everybody. Oh
that sounds great. I just I felt

847
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:42.119
like as I was reading it,
I love that he would mention like Whio.

848
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:45.840
He'd mentioned like Dayton, Ohio places
and things and people, and I

849
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.719
was like, man, I'm glad
I'm learning about this, So I figured

850
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.119
you would probably get a road Yeah. And I love Doctor Creep. I

851
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:55.559
always love to go into foys and
camped out and sign and stuff. And

852
00:54:55.599 --> 00:55:00.599
my mom said that growing up like
she was friends with his daughter, I

853
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:04.039
guess, and that she would sometimes
like visit the set. I don't know

854
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:08.000
how much of that is true,
but it was cool to me. That's

855
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.639
awesome, And the funny thing is, you want to talk about a small

856
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:15.000
world. So the book was published
by Fred Olin Ray. Fredlin Ray the

857
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:21.280
b movie Maven, made hundreds of
movies between producing and directing, and Doug

858
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:23.960
was the first person to give fred
a chance in the in show business.

859
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:28.559
He met him in Florida and that's
how he made his first movie, was

860
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:34.079
by working with Doug. Now,
I years later did a television series with

861
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:37.440
Fred Olin Ray, Boney Creek.
The series was produced by Fred and I

862
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:42.280
and I directed it. And I
don't know that I would have my career

863
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:45.119
if it weren't for the fact that
I visited the Shock Theater set, which

864
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:49.079
was because Doug inspired Barry. So
it was like, really, I'm reading

865
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:51.920
this, I'm like, this is
kind of the genesis of my genesis.

866
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:54.039
Like that's awesome, It's so funny. What a small world it is.

867
00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:58.559
Yes, So just wanted to mention
that to you. I think you could

868
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:00.360
really get a kick out of it. I'll order it and I'll read it,

869
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.119
and i'll let you know what I
think. Please, sounds great to

870
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:05.679
me, and like it's really faster
because I'm a slow reader and I read

871
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:08.480
it all in one night, so
you'll enjoy it. Cool. I like

872
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:12.079
a fast read. Yeah, no, me too, me too? So

873
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:15.280
what else we got in this magic
sac all right? So this one I'm

874
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:17.840
a little biased because I'm in it. Oh, I have it, Yeah,

875
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:21.639
I have that. This is Served
Cold, which is a horror Tube

876
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:23.840
anthology. Horror Tube is basically what
I'm a part of, except I'm part

877
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:28.079
of more like the book niche of
that. Sure to talk about horror books,

878
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:30.079
but this has a bunch of different
horror tubers, whether they talk about

879
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:35.000
books or movies or whatever. They
all wrote stories for this. It is

880
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:39.440
a charity benefit, which is great, so all proceeds go to what was

881
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:44.800
it again? The charity is here
somewhere. I think maybe it's first book,

882
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:50.079
but anyway, really great cover by
Cameron Rubek, super good who did

883
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:53.840
the covers from my own books,
which was like unplanned. So he did

884
00:56:53.840 --> 00:57:00.400
the covers for Autumn Crow and then
I submitted a story to the first which

885
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:02.559
was called Local Haunts, and I
didn't know that he had done the cover

886
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:05.559
for that, so then it was
released and I'm like, no way,

887
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:07.119
what are the odds of this?
And then he did the cover art for

888
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:10.920
this one too, So all the
books kind of have a nice continuity in

889
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:15.760
that way. But there are many, many great stories in this and I

890
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:19.320
don't just recommend it because it's you
know, friends or people that I know

891
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:23.280
online. They're really genuinely good stories. There's a lot of really good writing

892
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:27.400
in here. And it's got an
autumn Crow Christmas story, so I mean,

893
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:30.960
you can't go wrong. So my
story is called Kara con Kolos,

894
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:36.320
which is it's a Christmas cryptid.
It's not Crampus, it's something a little

895
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.920
different. And I'll just leave it
at that. Well you have to read

896
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:42.880
it to find out. Yeah,
we'll serve Cold that one. I have

897
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:45.880
a copy of it on my shelf. So and I enjoyed it. I've

898
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:47.360
read about no, I read all
of it. Yeah, no, because

899
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:50.519
I got it. I think I
got it, like right when you and

900
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.679
I first like spoke online or whatever, and yeah, I got a real

901
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:57.800
good kick out of it. Well, I love I love Winter Winter Horrors.

902
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:00.639
Yeah, Cold horrors always gets me, always always gets to make.

903
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:05.599
And there's a lot of stories,
so you can read a couple every Christmas.

904
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:07.519
I'll carry you through a few years. Yeah. I like to grab

905
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:15.320
those, like random, random compilations
I find on Kindle. I'll grab them

906
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:19.360
for like three dollars and just read
through the short stories like before bed.

907
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:22.639
That's something I like because you never
know when you'll find a diamond. Yeah.

908
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.000
Yeah, because especially if I have
no clue who they are, they

909
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:28.599
have very few reviews. That's actually
more exciting. Yeah. Yeah, I

910
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:30.239
love doing that too, just sitting
now before bed and reading a quick one.

911
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:34.360
It's like a little bedtime story to
yourself. I started doing that with

912
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.119
Tales from the Dark Side, where
I would watch, like in the Dark

913
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:39.000
Side episode right before bed, I'm
like, oh, it's a spooky little

914
00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:44.519
story. That's my job, reading
the bedtime stories for the adults. Yeah,

915
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:54.960
right, don't go away weekly spooky. We'll be right back. What

916
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:59.519
else we got, my man?
We got Secret Santa, which is by

917
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:04.360
Andrew Oh. So I have not
read it, but I bought the audio

918
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.079
book. I've not listened to the
audio. I'm sure it's good though,

919
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:08.559
because this is from Quirk Books,
and they tend to have a lot of

920
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:15.239
good audiobooks I've noticed. But this
is the paperback edition. Really fun story

921
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.320
about I think it takes place in
the eighties, if I remember correctly.

922
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:23.599
Woman is working in the publishing industry, okay, and there's this like a

923
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:29.639
secret Santa gift exchange and she gets
a very strange little gift and she has

924
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:32.159
to figure out who it came from
and where it's from or else it may

925
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:38.280
possess her. Oh. So it's
very fun, silly horror comedy. I

926
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:43.039
mean it opens up in like Nazi
Germany, so you've got that, okay,

927
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:45.440
then, Yeah, it's very fun
and very silly. It made me

928
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:49.519
laugh a lot. So I noticed
you have it all marked up. What

929
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:52.559
were you were you researching it?
Yeah? I was. I was reviewing

930
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:54.480
it and there are just some parts
of it that stuck out to me or

931
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:58.360
things that made me laugh that I
wanted to feature. I can't remember what

932
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:00.800
they were now because I read this
like three years That's why you mark them.

933
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:04.639
Yeah, this is like five years
ago. Sure, maybe maybe even

934
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:09.000
not that long, definitely like two
hundred books ago. But you consume them

935
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:14.280
like I consume McNugget. I try, I try, believe it or not.

936
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:17.159
I'm actually not that fast a reader
myself. Really, Yeah, there

937
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:21.280
are a lot of other book tubers
who read a lot faster. I mean,

938
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:22.199
how do you do it? I've
seen a few. Yeah, yeah,

939
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:27.000
I mean I believe that there are
others faster, but you do see,

940
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:30.239
like you know, It's one thing
about your content that I never thought

941
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:35.320
I would enjoy is when you do
vlogs where you're just reading and obviously you're

942
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:38.119
not like sitting there quiet, but
there's something about how you'll be like you'll

943
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:40.360
be like, hey, so I
read about you know this much of the

944
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:43.000
book, and now I'm gonna go
for a walk, and you have a

945
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:47.480
little montage and stuff and on paper, I mean this with love. It

946
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:53.280
sounds so lame, but an execution
give me more. I know, I

947
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:57.239
don't know what it is like.
When I first started doing thosevogs, I'm

948
01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.719
like, who's kind of what?
Fine? And they're fun, they really

949
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:05.360
are. I'm walking to the cemetery. It's like I watch a lot of

950
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:07.880
like Ambiance on YouTube, where it's
like the sound effects and you've got a

951
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:12.440
scene before you, and it just
helps me to kind of calm down and

952
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:14.639
focus, and I was like,
I guess I could do this in video

953
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:17.320
for him kind of so well.
And it's especially great in the fall time,

954
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:21.320
you know, because I think that
colors. I think that like one

955
01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:24.079
of my favorite things, or maybe
least favorite. Who knows about Halloween and

956
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:28.039
Christmas is I always feel like I'm
missing out. I always feel like I'm

957
01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:31.639
not getting enough Christmas E stuff and
enough Halloween E stuff done, which is

958
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:37.800
extra crazy when you consider like I
run a horror scary story podcast that published

959
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:39.519
like thirty one episodes in thirty one
days, and I felt like I wasn't

960
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:43.480
doing any Halloween stuff. Yeah,
I did manage to go to one haunted

961
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:47.000
house and it was really fun.
That was the face of your fears one

962
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.960
right, Yeah, yeah, have
you done it? Oh yes, Oh

963
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:52.519
it's such fun. Yeah. Wait, isn't that it about you? Yeah,

964
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:54.480
it's pretty close to me, so
fun. Yeah. I think it's

965
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:59.840
one of the best hunts around.
And it's in a real haunted house,

966
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:02.079
that's what they say. Wow.
Yeah, so it's a it's a good

967
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:06.239
little little stick they got going on
there, and it's such a creepy house

968
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:08.760
on its own. And then got
a giant tree out front. Yes,

969
01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:12.000
yes, yes, no, I
I had a great time with it.

970
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:15.280
Did they have the spook house and
everything there when you went, uh,

971
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:19.679
I don't think so. A couple
of years ago they had an old fashioned

972
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:22.960
spook house out front that you could
go through while you were waiting, And

973
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:24.639
yeah, they did not. And
then they had they had like a ferris

974
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:28.440
wheel and all kinds of carnival rides. It was so cool. I saw

975
01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:31.000
some video of that when I I
like searched their names on YouTube, and

976
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:35.480
you know, it was it was
super fun. We paid for the express

977
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:37.239
passes, so we like got there
and then we were in the Haunted House

978
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:40.119
in like six minutes. It was
awesome. Yeah, and we just had

979
01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:45.599
a great time the uh. I
think I was most impressed by the fake

980
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:46.960
lightning they had, Like when you
go outside, they have this light and

981
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:52.719
these lightning lights going off and they
were really like disorienting and scary, and

982
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:54.480
I really had a great time with
it. Was one of the few things

983
01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:57.960
that that I, uh, I
managed to get out of the house to

984
01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:00.760
do. That's good. I'm glad
you got to you something. Yeah,

985
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:02.880
that one. There's so many great
effects, and there was one I don't

986
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:07.039
know if he was there when you
went, but this guy that's on stilts

987
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.280
and he kind of like comes out
of one doorway and I remember I was

988
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:12.920
walking along and then I like saw
a pair of legs in front of me,

989
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:15.880
and I looked up and he's like
towering over me with this giant like

990
01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:20.880
axe thing and he whacks it down. One of his stilts stepped on my

991
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:27.639
toe and I just stood there just
like, oh, did you just break

992
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:30.519
my toe? So the whole time
I'm walking through him like ow ow.

993
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:34.880
I got to the car like ripped
my shoe off. My siblings like what

994
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:37.599
are you doing, I'm like,
he stupped on my toe. I was

995
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:42.519
okay, but it hurt. Oh, I can imagine. So not only

996
01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:45.440
was I terrified, but I'm like, dude, you stepped on my foot.

997
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:47.159
Usually they charge extra for that,
you know, that amount of fear.

998
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:52.760
Yeah, the touch pass. I
passed on the touch pass and they

999
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:57.679
I love that. They were trying
to put it on you. Oh yeah,

1000
01:03:57.679 --> 01:03:59.719
one of the guys. One of
the guys walked up to me and

1001
01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:01.519
had and you just start putting it
around my neck and please no, please

1002
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:05.239
no, please don't know the other
thing I loved was they had like any

1003
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:09.360
time there were like skeletons on the
walls or whatever, they put touch passes

1004
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:12.920
around their necks, like lit up
like you want a touch pass, don't

1005
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:18.119
you know? I thank you?
I had no, no desire. I'm

1006
01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:21.639
a scaredy cat. I That's why
I love horror because it gets me.

1007
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:26.519
It makes me scream, it makes
me cower, it makes me me afraid,

1008
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:29.559
and uh, you know, people
often think they're like, how do

1009
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:32.400
you get through horror stuff? Like
you must be really like, you know,

1010
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:36.320
chilled to it. And I'm like, nope, I read a scary

1011
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:40.519
book and then I have to check
behind the shower curtain every time I go

1012
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:44.599
to the bathroom. Yep, you
got to put on some Pallette cleanser afterward,

1013
01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:46.719
turn on every light in the house. I've done. That's my big

1014
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:50.079
that's my big one. Like,
uh, do you see The Last Shift?

1015
01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:53.920
That horror movie was on Netflix for
a while. It's about a woman

1016
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:57.480
who's in an empty police station for
the last night it's open. I believe

1017
01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.400
I did, or maybe you told
me about that one. I heard the

1018
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:02.159
hell out of me, but I
fell asleep during it. I was just

1019
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:06.199
really late at night. I woke
up during a really scary part and I

1020
01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:10.840
was just like and then like I
sat up and I'm like, I'm thirty.

1021
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:15.480
It's fine. And then I was
like, well, better rewinded.

1022
01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:16.760
I don't know what I missed somethly
rewinding. And then I pause. I'm

1023
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:20.199
like, and I'll take a quick
walk around the house. Walk the house

1024
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:25.199
turned on all there, make sure
all the doors are locked like a cup

1025
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:30.400
of sea. Whoa, Okay,
we're good. I am a big scaredy

1026
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:33.719
cat when it comes to people,
and I know there's people underneath those costumes.

1027
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:36.599
I don't want them touching me.
Oh I see, yeah, yeah,

1028
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:40.000
I get you. I don't want
them to carry me off god knows

1029
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:44.639
where, Oh you know where.
You don't want to be putting a pit

1030
01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:46.480
full of rats. I know it's
not real rats, or is it.

1031
01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:49.639
Well, you know, rats are
kind of cuddly if they're if they've been

1032
01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:55.320
well treated. Right, But so
all right, So what else you got

1033
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:59.800
there, homeboy? I've got another
collection of short stories here. I their

1034
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:03.039
angel screen. That is one of
those Rando I told that bottom kindle.

1035
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:06.719
It's good, It's really good.
There's some awesome stories in here. It's

1036
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:10.559
a nice, chunky one, but
it's one that I tend to dip into,

1037
01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:13.320
like there's a bookmark in there.
I tend to dip into here and

1038
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:16.519
there and read stories. It's a
whole lot of fun. And I love

1039
01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:20.039
that cover. Heart well Hark the
Herald Angels scream. It's such a good

1040
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:25.880
pun, great great pun. And
yeah, I've read probably all of it

1041
01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:30.880
because that has a story by Joe
Lansdale, who did Bubba Hotep. The

1042
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:33.719
original story that was became Bubble Hotep. Joe R. Lansdale's great. That's

1043
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.880
a good book. And this also
reminds me of the crypt Keeper from and

1044
01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:42.159
all through the House when he has
the Santa mask. No, that's a

1045
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:45.880
great one. That's that one I
personally recommend too. You see, it

1046
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:49.480
becomes clear how into Christmas I am, by how many of these books I

1047
01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:54.239
have read, because I really have
read a lot of those. But man,

1048
01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:56.679
no, now you make me want
to revisit Slumber Party. And I'm

1049
01:06:56.679 --> 01:06:59.800
in the middle of your book and
I'm in the middle of a snowman.

1050
01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:02.239
I gotta I gotta get my stuff
together. Just go with it. I

1051
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:05.840
keep starting books like in the middle
of several and I'm like, oh,

1052
01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:10.280
I'm already starting this one. Now
it just keeps piling up. But you

1053
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:14.199
just gotta go with the flow.
Yeah, that's fair. Just read what

1054
01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:16.039
you want and and and at the
end of the day, that's the hardest

1055
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:21.360
part about being an adult, is
like you have to keep your your passions

1056
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:28.159
from becoming like like for lack of
a better job. Yeah, I say

1057
01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:30.880
that knowing that, like most of
my passions are literally a job. But

1058
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:35.840
I mean, like I relate the
idea of reading enough scary books. Once

1059
01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:40.119
it becomes a requirement, it's not
fun anymore. Now it's now it's an

1060
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:44.960
obligation, yet another one on top
of family, on top of relationships,

1061
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:46.199
on top of work, you know, and now all of a sudden,

1062
01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:49.320
it's like, Andrew, go to
finish Snowman this year because you only read

1063
01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:54.199
half of it last year. And
I'm like, shut up me, it's

1064
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:58.519
the worst relate. Well, And
that's like, one thing I really respect

1065
01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:02.199
about you is that you you really
as a creator, you take care of

1066
01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:05.920
your mental health. I try to. Yeah, I mean there was a

1067
01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:10.519
time where I was just pushing it
all the time, and I don't know

1068
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:14.920
how I got out some of the
content I did in such big chunks,

1069
01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:16.760
and I would just work and work
and work. But finally it was like,

1070
01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:19.640
oh, I can't do this.
And now I notice it more when

1071
01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:23.600
I'm working too much, and I'm
like, I don't need to do this,

1072
01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:26.880
Like this isn't a like I don't
have to do this to pay the

1073
01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:30.720
bills. I've got another job.
I've got my full time job. So

1074
01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:33.000
if I do need to take a
little break from videos, I'll do it.

1075
01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:35.279
And everyone's still going to be there
at the end of the day.

1076
01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:39.159
Well, and I mean, I'm
on your Patreon. I'm one of the

1077
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:45.199
diehards, and they're very very kind, very generous, and very understanding.

1078
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:47.600
Yes, so I'm glad. I'm
glad to have that for you. I'm

1079
01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:53.960
like the Weekly Spooky Monsters who listened
to the show. They keep me chained

1080
01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:57.199
in their basement reading them scary stories. If they could, I know who

1081
01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:03.199
you are. Finish Snowman, read
faster. That's the other thing is I'll

1082
01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:05.600
be like, I want to read
Snowman, but first I have to read

1083
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:11.039
two novella's for Weekly Spoof into a
microphone. And then I'm like and then

1084
01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:13.439
I sit down and I'm like I
don't want to look at anything anymore.

1085
01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:15.319
Oh yeahlet's see. That's how I
felt like during college. I would have

1086
01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:18.359
to read all this stuff for college
or read textbooks, and I'm like,

1087
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:20.760
I, for the first time in
my life, I don't want to read

1088
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:25.359
anything. I used to and I
never went to college. But in high

1089
01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:29.439
school I used to read the back
of the book and then just make it

1090
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:32.159
all up. And then I'd be
like, I didn't even do cliff Now

1091
01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:40.279
it worked. Hey, minus,
that's not that's not too bad, not

1092
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:43.039
that great. I don't have diploma
or anything, but but you know,

1093
01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:45.800
it was just I was just trying
to get through the day. Yeah,

1094
01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:48.439
but you gotta do it's high school. Eh. But but no, I

1095
01:09:48.479 --> 01:09:54.000
think it is really important to take
a moment and be like, I'm feeling

1096
01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:59.239
burnout, and I don't have to
do X, Y and Z. I'm

1097
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:04.920
supposed to be enjoying it, because
that's why your vlogs work. They work

1098
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:10.399
because you're enjoying yourself. Yeah,
because you're letting people join you, right,

1099
01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:15.720
You're giving them like condensed relaxation because
for you, it took a whole

1100
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:18.039
day to read the book and drink
some tea and do this and do that,

1101
01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:20.760
and then edit it and everything.
And then for us we get like

1102
01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:25.479
we get just twenty five minutes of
relaxation or fifteen minutes of relaxation or however

1103
01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:29.359
long it is, and we get
to go like it is nice to read

1104
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:31.119
a book with a hot mugg of
tea. Maybe I'll do that. Oh

1105
01:10:31.159 --> 01:10:34.039
wait, no, I gotta go
work right now, do it through me?

1106
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:38.960
Yeah. Well, that's one thing
I like about actually making those videos

1107
01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:42.159
is that it is a lot less
effort. I mean, they're setting up

1108
01:10:42.199 --> 01:10:45.600
the camera, which doesn't take that
much time, but I just get to

1109
01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:49.119
read and relax and talk about what
I'm reading. It's the editing that takes

1110
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:51.800
the most time. Oh yeah,
oh my, I have to match all

1111
01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:56.199
these clips and make sure it actually
looks like one cohesive thing. No,

1112
01:10:56.279 --> 01:11:01.439
it's and your attention to detail with
your editing is very high. So a

1113
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:04.960
little too high. I wasn't going
to say that, but I was thinking

1114
01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:08.520
a little too high. You can
get away with being lazier, I know,

1115
01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:10.920
but I can appreciate the fact that
you don't. Yeah, I know.

1116
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:13.159
People tell me all the time,
like, you know, you could,

1117
01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:15.880
you know, take it easy this
week and just not do that that

1118
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:19.239
splice right there, over and over
and over and over again. Well,

1119
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:24.119
but then I'll say I can't stop
myself. Then I'll say all that.

1120
01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:27.000
But then you'll do You'll do a
gag on your show where you like open

1121
01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:30.079
a book and put in the squeaky
door out and then I laugh out loud.

1122
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:31.239
I go, Okay, that was
great, right, I like that.

1123
01:11:31.359 --> 01:11:34.319
No, that's that's the kind of
thing that makes me chuckle. Okay,

1124
01:11:34.439 --> 01:11:38.600
so I'm glad you liked that.
That was great, That's super funny.

1125
01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:42.560
But no, I just want to
make that very clear. I think

1126
01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:45.039
what you do is really fun.
Oh, thank you. And I'm a

1127
01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:47.680
and I'm a big believer. I
mean literally, I wrote you a fan

1128
01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:51.840
letter because I'd watched I don't know
how probably ten or fifteen of your videos

1129
01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:56.199
in a row. During lockdown,
you know, we're all looking for something

1130
01:11:56.239 --> 01:12:00.319
to do, and it was you
were out at a looking at books and

1131
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:02.880
I went like, that looks kind
of like it looks kind of like Fairborne.

1132
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:04.920
I was like, yeah, you
know, mall areas are all the

1133
01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:08.439
same, and like half price books
are all the same. And then You're

1134
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:12.920
like, I'm gonna swing by boys
now, and I was like, what

1135
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:16.880
are the odds live like down the
road? Basically? Yeah. So then

1136
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:18.600
I was like, I have to
write a fan letter and I have to

1137
01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:23.119
also be like we should get lunch
or something. So here we are,

1138
01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:25.840
and here, here we are.
You've gotten to pet my dogs. You

1139
01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:29.479
know, you've gotten to tickle the
ears of my listeners. I've gotten to

1140
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:36.199
only moderately frustrate your viewers. They
love it. I read every comment.

1141
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:39.880
They were all super nice, and
I agreed with the one that said I

1142
01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:44.600
talked too much. No, no, I do, so you didn't say

1143
01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:48.239
that. They said, I'm not
offended by it. I I do talk

1144
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:51.840
a lot though. Well, it's
it's a podcast. It's who I am.

1145
01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:57.239
You gotta you gotta know how to
talk. Yeah, I talk pretty,

1146
01:12:57.520 --> 01:13:00.640
I talk real pretty. But what
else is in the magic? I've

1147
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:03.960
got one more? Oh wow?
Yeah, we've been jumping through this bad

1148
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:08.319
Boy and it's it's another short story
collection, which I feel like short story

1149
01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:11.399
is the best time for Christmas.
Yeah, and and and and less of

1150
01:13:11.399 --> 01:13:14.800
that pressure that we were just talking
about to read a ton right, so

1151
01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:17.439
and also it kind of goes back
to a Christmas Carol. Very short story

1152
01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:21.399
which is also a great spooky Christmas
read. It is no no, and

1153
01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:29.560
and and people often forget that when
it comes to stories for Christmas that in

1154
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:31.680
England they were almost always ghost stories, right, But that one was just

1155
01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:34.560
one that actually took place on Christmas, so it kind of took off as

1156
01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:40.159
a everywhere Christmas story. Yeah,
even though it is a very chilling story

1157
01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:43.439
and it's very spooky, and that's
why all of the adaptations are always like,

1158
01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:46.399
you know what, he's kind of
scary looking that ghost. Well,

1159
01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:50.920
my personal favorite, my favorite Christmas
Eve ghost story is another Dickens. But

1160
01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:54.479
it's the Signal One. Okay,
I've not read it. You've never read

1161
01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:58.800
the Signamala Hello down there. Oh
dude, you'll do yourself. It's not

1162
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:00.880
long. Okay, do yourself favor
and go read the Signalman. It's really

1163
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:05.960
good. It's about a man in
the Dickens time period, who because it's

1164
01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:11.359
I believe it is written by Dickens. He is a signalman. He works

1165
01:14:11.359 --> 01:14:15.000
on the railroad and it's like a
railroad that's like dug into the ground and

1166
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:18.520
he has to signal lights to let
the trains know, you know, that

1167
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:21.479
they're coming and stuff. Like that
to let them know they're welcome through and

1168
01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:26.239
that it's clear, and it is
chilling and creepy. And it was one

1169
01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:30.239
of his many of the many short
stories he wrote for Christmas Eve. And

1170
01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:32.760
it's been adapted by the BBC like
twenty times. It's been adapted by it

1171
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:35.560
and now it's public domain, so
everybody reads it one day. I'll read

1172
01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:38.399
it on weekly. Spooky. I
just haven't gotten around to it. We

1173
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:43.119
have so many original stories to get
through first, but that one you would

1174
01:14:43.159 --> 01:14:45.039
really enjoy. The signalman, I'll
check it out. I have a big

1175
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:48.680
chunky book full of Charles Dickens.
I guarantee it's in there, so yeah,

1176
01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:53.199
I'm sure it's it's a really good
one, really creepy. So but

1177
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:57.880
what was the name of that one? A season? Seasons Creepying by Ronald

1178
01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:00.800
Kelly. Ronald Kelly, who's great. He's been right since like the early

1179
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:03.199
nineties. I's got lots of great
books. This one's one of his newer

1180
01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:06.199
ones. It's a collection of short
stories. Some of the stories are older,

1181
01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:11.359
most of them are new. Just
a really fun book. I talked

1182
01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:15.239
about another one that was Halloween themed
called The Halloween Store. Oh, Oh

1183
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:16.960
yeah, so this is the same
guy. He also did a Christmas one.

1184
01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:19.840
He has one for Saint Patrick's Day, so lots of holiday ones.

1185
01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:25.720
Just a really fun, solid short
story collection from a guy who knows his

1186
01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:31.359
craft very well. So here's a
question, when are we getting an Autumn

1187
01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:36.600
Crow Christmas? Well, I think
it's a question. There is Cara Conklos,

1188
01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:41.359
which is end seasoned or a served
cold, and it is a Christmas

1189
01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:45.960
story. That being said, I
do want to write more Christmas stories set

1190
01:15:46.119 --> 01:15:49.520
in Autumn Crow, and I have
a lot of ideas cooking up things that

1191
01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:53.439
I don't want to reveal just yet. Oh you don't have to, But

1192
01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:57.960
I do want to do more Christmas
stories. Good because I mean because obviously

1193
01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:01.199
I mean with Autumn Crow high Fresh
Hell Out Now, I mentioned that again

1194
01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:06.399
do you guys available easily to get
on Amazon, kindle paperback. But with

1195
01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:11.000
Fresh Hell Out Now, which is
I think turned out really great. Like

1196
01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:13.399
I said, read half of it
and I've really enjoyed it. Thank you

1197
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:15.359
well. And it's the sweet spot
for me. I mean, this is

1198
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:18.000
my kind of stuff. Yeah,
I wrote it for people like us.

1199
01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:24.159
Yeah, so it shows very very
much good good. What's next for Autumn

1200
01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:29.319
Crow High, do you know?
I do, and I do have a

1201
01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:31.479
story already going. It's gonna be
a bit shorter than this one. This

1202
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:35.319
was. Yeah, this is like
a super chiller, like fear Street superchiller.

1203
01:16:35.359 --> 01:16:39.560
Well, and it established the world. Yes, so I think that's

1204
01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:42.319
that's fair. How many, like, roughly, how many words was this

1205
01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:44.640
did this? Np? Do you
know? Roughly? It was like a

1206
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:47.359
little over seventy thousand. Yeah,
that's like a standard novel, a standard

1207
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:50.239
novel. It is a standard novel, which was not the plan. It

1208
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was meant to be about the size
of a fear Street and then it just

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kept going yeah go, And I'm
like, oh wow, this is like

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a perfectly rounded novel right here,
which is pretty cool because I hadn't written

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anything like that before. Yeah,
so every all the other books are planned

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to be more novella length, more
like Fearce Street, though maybe the last

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book will be beefy, because sure
needs to wrap things up the last in

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air quotes until until you bring it
back, right, until you do still

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more. Oh, I've got so
many plans man, things that I wish

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I could share, but I yeah, yeah, no, I just I

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just love the concept and yeah,
and that that word count. I know

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a lot about that word count because
the Babysitter massacrebooks you do, they're all

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thirty to twenty thousand or thirty twenty
to thirty thousand or somewhere in the neighborhood.

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So get I get where you're coming
from. But yeah, and also

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I like that it's beefy because it's
the beginning. Yeah, and I've seen

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people talking about it online. They
clearly have a no problem plowing through it

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quick. I was hoping that would
be the case. I've had very few

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reviews say that it needed to be
cut down, which there's no way to

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01:17:55.199 --> 01:17:58.439
cut it down. Yeah, if
you really dig into it, there's no

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01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:01.199
way I could have done it and
told the same story. So most people

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seem to get through it pretty quick, which is good. All right,

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Well, good now. I love
what you're doing with it, and I

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love the concept of Autumn Crow and
also the oh gosh, what was the

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first Is the first book just called
Autumn Crow? Yeah? Just autumn Okay,

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01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:16.319
that's what my thought, but I
didn't want to be wrong. I

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want to mention that to my listeners
too. You should check out Autumn Crow,

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01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:20.800
the collection of short stories. That
was the first thing I read of

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01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:25.720
yours. Really enjoyed it. I
really enjoyed how you you tried a lot

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of different styles of short storytelling.
It kept it really fresh. Every story

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01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:30.880
would end and then I'd start the
next one. I'd be like huh,

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and then go to the next one. I'm like, you know, like,

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I really enjoyed it so well.
That's one thing about me is that

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I love all these different kinds of
horror. I don't just like one kind,

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you know, So I wanted to
have a little sampling of everything in

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01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:46.119
there. It's fun, you know, It's fun to just write, write

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01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:49.640
one thing it's maybe a little sad, and then just write something that's really

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01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:55.399
silly and funny. The contrast is
more entertaining for me as a writer.

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01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:57.760
Yeah, especially if you're writing a
bunch of shorts. You want you don't

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01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:00.840
want everything to be the same,
right, So, real Christmas tree are

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01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:04.199
fake? Fake? Sorry I'm a
fake too. Yeah No, no,

1247
01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:08.239
I actually prefer a fake Christmas tree. Yeah. We got one when I

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01:19:08.279 --> 01:19:11.359
was a kid, a real Christmas
tree, and I was so excited about

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01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:15.720
it. I was sticky and it
hurt and I remember once like I was

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01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:18.920
crawling under the tree to get a
Christmas gift out on like Christmas Day,

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01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:23.119
and I had my jeans on and
one of those pine needles went through my

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01:19:23.239 --> 01:19:26.319
jeans and stuck up into my knee
and it hurt. I'm like, how

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01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:30.399
did you get through my gene?
You just wrote the opening prologue of the

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01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:34.680
Autumn Crow High Christmas Story. It's
the blood coming out of their knee is

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01:19:34.720 --> 01:19:38.159
They're like, what is this?
And then the next chapter is like the

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01:19:38.199 --> 01:19:42.840
Christmas tree cut me. The Christmas
tree is made out of needles? Oh,

1257
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:45.439
I wandered, really have to hate
you? Geez, that's meticulous worked,

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01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:49.119
It's okay. When I was a
kid, we had we had the

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01:19:49.159 --> 01:19:53.079
one we had two real trees.
But the second time we had a real

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01:19:53.159 --> 01:19:57.119
tree, my mother was decorating it
while my sister and I were upstairs doing

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01:19:57.159 --> 01:19:59.960
something or other, and the tree
fell on her and we didn't hear her

1262
01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:02.159
screaming oh no, So she was
like stuck under it for like there's a

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01:20:02.239 --> 01:20:08.119
turbin and then she just storms up
the stairs and boasts the door. But

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01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:10.880
he goes, did you not hear
me, young leg? We're both like

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01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:19.920
no, and she's like like storm
back out my favorite Christ So well,

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01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:24.079
Cameron, sincerely, thank you so
much for sitting down with my audience,

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01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:27.199
and thanks for having me in front
of your Of course you're fine, folks.

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I hope everybody listening and watching has
an awesome holiday season. If you're

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01:20:32.439 --> 01:20:36.880
not familiar with my work, I'll
just mention Weeklyspooky dot com is where we

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01:20:36.960 --> 01:20:42.359
do scary story readings every Wednesday,
true crime stories every Monday, and then

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01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:45.720
god only knows what else we get
up to. We get up to a

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01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:49.520
lot of Weekly Spooky. We're publishing
twenty five shows in December. This is

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01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:54.279
one of them. So, but
anything else you want to say before we

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01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:59.880
uh we go hit the well.
Thank you guys for watching. Really appreciate

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01:20:59.920 --> 01:21:01.800
it. Thank you for having my
pleasure, my pleasure. Anytime you want

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01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:03.640
to do this, I'm here.
Oh yeah, all I have to do

1277
01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:08.600
is come up with a reason and
you're here. Yeah, so let me

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01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:12.680
know. Absolutely Well, thank you
and uh we'll be talking real soon.

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Yeah. By