Feb. 24, 2025

Monthly Spooky | Swallowed by a Whale, Abandoned Morgues, and Secrets of the Cosmonauts!

Monthly Spooky | Swallowed by a Whale, Abandoned Morgues, and Secrets of the Cosmonauts!
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Monthly Spooky: Weird News, Haunting Stories, And Urban Legends

In this episode, I dive into a chilling specter of tales both eerie and mystifying, starting with the phenomenon of a kayaker nearly swallowed by a whale. We recount the adventure of Adrian Simancas, who, while kayaking in the Strait of Magellan, found himself lifted by the massive creature. As we explore this story, we reflect on not only the frightening nature of the encounter but also the curiosity of whales that can lead to such close interactions with humans.

Next, we turn our attention to an inexplicable occurrence in Munich, Germany, where over 1,000 gravestones were marked with mysterious QR code stickers. Initially perplexed by the sudden appearance of these stickers, which simply provided names and locations of the deceased, the investigation revealed that a gardening company had affixed these codes for maintenance tracking. However, the audacity of placing such markings on graves led to an inquiry into potential property damage, and we discuss the implications of such oddities.

As our conversation unfolds, we delve into the realm of conspiracy theories, focusing on the 'Lost Cosmonauts' narrative steeped in Cold War era secrecy regarding the Soviet space program. I share captivating details about Yuri Gagarin's historic flight, then pivot to unsettling hypotheses suggesting that other cosmonauts may have vanished during clandestine missions. With tales of alleged recordings from the Judica Cordiglia brothers revealing voices of cosmonauts in distress—images of desperation that haunt the void of space—I draw connections to the dark history of the Soviet regime's cover-ups, underscoring the rollercoaster of human ambition and the cost of silence in the face of tragedy.

Throughout our exploration, I invite guests to contemplate the horror of history obscured by shadows and state-sponsored silence. The episode culminates in a contemplation of our fascination with such forgotten narratives—echoes of lives never celebrated, journeys never completed, and the haunting beauty wrapped in humanity's quest for mastery over the skies. As we close, I leave you with lingering questions about the boundaries of our knowledge and the secrets that may continue to hide just beyond the reaches of our understanding. Tune in for a blend of horror, mystery, and thought-provoking stories that dare to look beyond the veil of the known.


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A kayaker gets swallowed up by a giant whale. What

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secrets lie in an abandoned hospital's morgue? Did sasquatch kill

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two hunters? And the secrets of the cosmonauts revealed?

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Get comfortable, Turn off the lights.

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It's monthly spooky. Hello, my spookies. Wow, Michelle just starts

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yawning the moment the show starts.

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I quiet about it.

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Well, yeah, but I can see you.

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Yeah, you're there. We go next time.

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You know, the audience isn't the only person. Okay, good, Yeah,

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just put your hand over it. Yeah, you're not the

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only person. Uh Like, the audience isn't the only person

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that matters. I have feelings too, It's just sorry. The

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moment I start my opening, you're just yawning a huge.

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Please because it's gonna make me yawn again.

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I feel like you should have went even further up.

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She's covering up. I could see. I know you're doing it.

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You should have done the thing where you went? Were

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you just like pett That wasn't even a real yawn?

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Did Okay, let's test this.

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Maybe I don't know.

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Because I can make myself yawn on command.

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There it is forever now.

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That was a really yawn. You want to know the

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weirdest thing, you know, how I discovered I could yawn

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on command, because if I imagine someone yawning, I have

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like a one in four chance it'll just make me

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on the first time. Well, you're yawning a lot. Do

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you mean a doctor?

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Maybe?

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Well, I'm sorry I bore you so deeply.

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Cell, I've never yawned because I was bored before. I

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don't even think that's a real thing.

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I yawned when I'm bored.

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Oh well, now it's I know it's a real thing.

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I feel bad for like half the audience who is

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like yawning uncontrollably violently right now because of us talking

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about it. Even I'm struggling not to yawn now that

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good duty. I can't help. But you're the one who

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started this, I know. I'm Enrique Kuto here with my

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good buddy, Cell, and uh we are uh we're we're talking.

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It's Monthly Spooky. She completely threw me off, Cell, geez uh.

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For those who are new to Monthly Spooky, it's kind

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of a month end of the month wrap up show

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here at Weekly Spooky, where we read some creepy news

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stories and we talk about a topic, and often that

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topic is very hard for me to decide on, especially

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as we go into over twenty some episodes. But I

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did pick a topic that I had never heard of before,

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and I don't know if you have either, shell that

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I find really creepy and I'm excited to dive into.

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Have you ever heard of the Lost Cosmonauts conspiracy theory?

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I don't think so.

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Well, we're going to talk about that a whole lot.

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Get and.

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Where did they get lost?

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Where do you think store? Yes, friend, we got way

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through space. But we're going to talk about the Lost

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Cosmonauts conspiracy theory. I found a source for this that

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isn't Wikipedia, which means it might be like skewed and

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full of like conspiratorial thinking, and that's kind of what

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I'm hoping for. But before we get to that cell,

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you've got to stop yawning. I have been. I stopped

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talking about it, Can you stop doing it?

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Now? And all it's all I can think about.

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I'm really sorry, Chelle. Well, as this show is airing,

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I'm actually will be in Philadelphia hanging out with you,

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So that's cool, right, Sorry?

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Maybe you're like, oh no, why.

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I did appear on your podcast last week.

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Did Yeah?

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Yeah, Michelle explains, Anime Poorly is the name of the show,

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and it was fun watching you be so uncomfortable doing

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in like a conversational podcast.

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I mean, not what it normally is.

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Well, I meant when I say you doing one, what

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I mean is like you were in charge of a

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conversational podcast as opposed to a monologue, which is mostly

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what your podcast is.

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Yeah, And believe me, I get the difference because my

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main podcast, Weekly Spooky, is a monol podcast. Yeah, so

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I really do understand. I think at one point in

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the show, I even said solo podcasting is a hell

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of a drug because it's like a totally different thing.

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almost six years of my life to one, so I

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must enjoy it. But there is something to be said

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for sitting down and talking with another human shaped person

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when they're done yawning. So, but I had a really

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good time talking with you about Banana Fish, the anime

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series that you've been covering on. Michelle explains Anime Poorly,

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and I enjoyed sharing my insights with you, and it

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was just a really good time. So if you guys

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haven't checked out Michelle's podcast yet and you like anime

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or even don't like anime and just want to hate

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listen to it, which Michelle.

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poorly over on any podcasting app and give her a listen.

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Yeah, and I promised that I cried multiple times in

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the season, all the times, so.

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There were some solid cries.

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some of the sniffing out of several of them.

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I see how it is. So you you save all

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the good crying for your podcast and only leave us

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the yawns. Oh, there she goes, There she.

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have to talk about something that makes me really upset.

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Okay, it's not pronounced schookle, it's shully. Oh but now

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I'm just angry, damn it. See I don't have that.

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I don't have the sweet spot just yet. All right,

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but oh but no, uh so, yeah, check out Michelle

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explains Anime poorly and also in I think it's two

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weeks you start covering eighty six. That's the next the

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next anime series you'll be talking about.

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Yep on March thirteenth, I guess actually, and that'll be

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fun because it's all about, you know, genocide and stuff.

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you know, you want to go with like the the

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Key Japan tropes, so you know, you go from like

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constant sexual violence to genocide. It's good, it's good stuff.

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It's good.

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It's nice because they don't overlap, Like, it's not genocide

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and sexual violence. It's just just.

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Yeah, that would be too historically accurate.

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Yeah, So, but I was thinking, I was like, maybe

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I should just do horribly upsetting things from now, because

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that's obviously what I like.

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Yeah, it's true.

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Also, I want to mention while we're here, because I

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just got the official date. On March first, at around noon,

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we'll be doing myself and my buddy Dave from Do

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You Even Movie will be doing a live stream. We're

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going to finally do a new live stream. It'll be

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at least twelve hours long. It'll be on YouTube, Twitch,

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and Facebook Live. But I recommend watching on YouTube because

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it's the easiest and You can find out more by

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going to Weeklyspooky dot com slash live. It'll take you

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to the YouTube page for the inevitable stream and you

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can set a reminder and all that stuff so you

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can tune in. We'd love to have listeners of Weekly

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Spooky and Monthly Spooky and everything come and hang out.

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I don't do nearly enough live events for everybody to

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come and hang out and interact directly, so I'm gonna

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try to up that a little bit. The big thing

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is it was hard to promote because you would be like,

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I'm gonna be live at this time, but then how

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do you get people there? How do you get people

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to be able to remember because it's you know, it's

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not that easy. So I found a way to have

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YouTube send you a reminder directly, so all I had

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I'm going to try to do more Weekly Spooky live

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things in general, not just the twelve hour live streams

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with Dave where we play video games and goof off,

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but we'll also take phone calls. We're gonna take of

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course chats, and we'll be raising money to try to

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like that. So really would appreciate it. If you guys join,

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it would be really cool. Michelle won't because she is

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too cool to hang out, but I mean whatever.

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I mean, yeah, but damn no, I'll try to be

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there for a little while because it's always like you're like,

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to like have sound, you know, like I can't like

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record something all I want.

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just be really confusing if it was just in your headphones.

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I mean I guess I could see what happens and

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like just that could be like this is the podcast.

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It doesn't make sense because I was also listening to

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learn how to use auditory teleprompter? I think so, Yeah,

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I almost nailed it. It's where you speak immediately after

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I've never done it like to the level that they

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do it, like to do stand up shows and stuff.

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that I do sometimes when I listen to the radio,

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I just oh, okay, now after they talk, I talk

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and see if I can keep up, because I learned

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that people who have like who are getting Alzheimer's can't

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do that. So it's good.

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Oh so now you want to know, it's like it's

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like during COVID you would smell a shoe every morning

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to make.

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Sure it's gonna make sure.

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Well, we're gonna take a quick break and then we'll

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be back with some spooky news. And we are back.

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You know what time it is, Tell it's time for

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the spooky news, the spooky news. This first story I

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wanted us to start real strong, so of course it's

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Mirror dot co dot uk of course, But this one

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I got really excited about because it's about a ring

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doorbell camera, which I have a ring camera, and it's

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a it's been a blessing being able to know like

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who's at my door. Also, you know something I didn't

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think about until the other day. It also captures every

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interaction I have in my doorway, so if somebody were

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to ever show up at my house like say anything

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weird or kill me, I mean, thanks for going that far,

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but I know well, like if somebody were casing my

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home to rob it and pretended to be a worker,

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or if a salesperson got inappropriately pushy or something like that.

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I have it all on camera, which is pretty cool. Yeah,

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but this headline reads I, except I clicked off of it.

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I captured chilling ring doorbell footage after moving to a

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house in the middle of nowhere.

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Wow, that's foreign to nowhere.

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The worst part about ring about ring cameras is they

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do try to guess what they're seeing for you, like

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whether it's movement or a person, And every now and then,

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not often, but every now and then mine will be

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wrong and say there is a person outside your door

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and the middle of the night, and scare the ever

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loving shit out of me, Like the little blink will

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come up and to say a person is at your door,

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Like and one time I looked and it was a spider,

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like right up on the less What were you gonna say?

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I was gonna say. That's enough for me to just

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not want one. Honestly, Well, you.

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Could turn that off. I I just kind of like

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it because it's usually right, you know, usually it'll say

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movement if it's like a raccoon, or a cat or something.

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But a few times it's had a person because something

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had gotten way too close to the lens. Yeah, and

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was just kind of messing it up. Yeah. I got

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terrified by a spider and one time by just the

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web of a spider being blown in the wind. Okay,

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those scared the hell out of me, So all right,

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this one from me here dot Cota UK people have

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been left terrified by some chilling ring doorbell footage. The

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clip was recently shared to the Ghosts of London group

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on Facebook, where people around the world submit footage or

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pictures of something they believe to be supernatural.

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So sub London then.

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Yeah, I guess it's yeah, it really should probably be

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London focused, I would guess.

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Yeah, or the ghosts of everywhere. I don't know.

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It's also just like people posting like reviews about like

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the new Dorrido's flavor. It's like, this is not about ghosts,

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this is not about London. Everything I know is a lie.

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Yeah.

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A recent post shows ring doorbell footage from a remote

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property in some woods. Although it may seem perfectly normal

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at first glance, eagle eyed viewers will notice a white

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figure ambling around in the background. The person who submitted

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the footage said, quote, please watch the top right hand

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side to see what is being pointed out here. I

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was notified this morning that my ring camera recorded this

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in the middle of the night. Oh that's not a

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good sign. The Facebook post they're referencing it is been removed.

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It's like linked in the story. They didn't take a screenshot.

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They like linked and it's no longer available. Oh man,

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it's possible that that Facebook group went private because so

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many people were coming in because of the notoriety.

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It's possible.

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Yeah, quote just moved out to the middle of nowhere.

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I've gotten a creepy vibe at times, but this is unsettling.

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There are no neighbors around, and my house is on

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a fenced in hill that makes it impossible to get

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up to it. Well, impossible is a strong.

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No he got there.

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Yeah, that's number one. Number two, like, fences are a

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strong recommendation. They are not an actual They don't just

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purely stop you.

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Oh yeah, I mean I was gonna say, well, what

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if it has like what if it's electrified and it

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has like razor wire, but still we.

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Need bob wire. It's got bob wire.

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I meant bob wire.

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Razor wire is way cooler and scarier. Yeah, it even

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sounds cooler and scar Yeah, you should get razor wire

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wrapped around your bicep.

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You know. I almost got razor wire on a tattoo

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when I was like eighteen.

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Of course you did.

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That was that cool?

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Still that just makes me that was like a thing

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pro wrestlers were doing in the two thousands. It's getting

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like barbed wire tattoos around their arm. I will, I

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will help pay for you to get razor wire tattooed

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around your arm. I would be so cool.

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Don't don't tempt me because I do it. Yeah, but

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then I then people don't have to explain it to people.

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And I'll just say it was for my for my

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eighteen year old self.

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It was in honor of her, Yeah it was. It

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was in memory of her since she's dead, Yeah, forever dead.

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But no, I just I just find that funny. It

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fenced and makes it impossible to get up to. No,

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it's not impossible. It's difficult. Like I always say, boundaries

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and barriers work, but they don't work perfectly. That's kind

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of the like, that's why a cage has to.

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Be small, you know, like yeah, yeah.

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Because otherwise you're gonna break through and it's surrounded by forrest.

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Any insight would be appreciated. See the fact that it's

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in the middle of nowhere is far more telling than

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they're being a fence, because that means people would really

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have to like deliberately get there in the first place.

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But it's one of those things where it's like, what

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does this house look like? Was it vacant for a

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long time? Because like there are things that people just

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might know about the house and be like, oh, we

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just go there and we like smoke things that are illegal, probably.

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Crack crack, crack crack cocaine. Yeah. The video has been

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viewed more than fifteen thousand times and it attracted plenty

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of comments. I can't find the video anymore unfortunately, or

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i'd show it to you.

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I don't even believe there was a video.

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But whatever, damn man, you're getting you're getting spicy. Lately,

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one we've gotten comments from people saying that they like

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this new agro Machelle. No, I'm not joking.

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We have Oh my god, oh my god. No, Okay,

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I'm gonna stop. I don't I don't even know what changed,

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but I'll just it don't make it better.

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That means you can't change. That's awesome what one person commented,

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And that's enough for me to move. Another said quote, Yep,

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I'd move. That is freaky as all get out. One

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saving grace is it's not walking toward your house.

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That's because it came from the house.

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Yeah, it was going to It was going out to

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use a spectral outhouse. It had to. It had to,

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you know, have a wee. While there were those who

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thought the figure was a ghost, some thought there was

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a much less scary explanation. One said, quote, it does

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look to be someone going for a walk. Another said,

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doesn't look at all like a ghost to me. What

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it's that quote? Doesn't look at all like a ghost

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to me. I've seen my share. Yeah, I don't know

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about all that. Man. I was trying to find the video.

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It is nowhere.

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Wow.

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Disappointing. This comes after a group of hikers made a

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spine chilling discovery after looking back at a selfie they

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took on a mountain trail. I remember that. I don't

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know if we cover that on the show where I

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just read about it. I have no idea The image

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also shared the Ghosts of London shows five people and

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a six ghostly figure nestled between two of their faces. That. Yeah,

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it's one of those like classic cursed images kind of things. Yeah.

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I don't know why the video is nowhere to be found.

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It's kind of their fault for like not screenshotting at

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least a little bit.

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Yeah, there's no screenshot, there's no nothing. Pathetic. Wow, I

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like how I like these new story sources because it's

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like the clip shared on the Ghosts of London group

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of Ghosts is a link and I click on it.

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It's just tags of ghost on the mirror site. Oh

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but then it says on Facebook and Facebook is a

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highlightable or a hyperlink. I click on that and it's

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just a story for Mirrored I UK about Facebook.

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Yeah, I thought it would take me to.

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It though, like the hell man, No, Well, on that note,

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thanks for nothing mirroor dot code at UK. That's kind

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of the best part. It's like a mixed bag. You

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just never know what you're gonna get. Is it gonna

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be a coconut candy or is it gonna be like

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a dried turd? You just don't know. All you do

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know is it doesn't have a copy editor.

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So I'm glad that you said coconut candy for like

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a good thing. That made me happy.

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Well, I actually do like coconut candy. But it's also

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like I think, no matter how much you dislike it,

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you would like it more than a turd. So it's

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a double when I do like coconut candy pretty good.

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So she gets some coconut candy for me when I

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come and visit. Okay, well, we're gonna take a quick

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break because we have even more spooky news right after this.

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All right, we're back, and now we're gonna go to

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a better source of news. I'm watching you try desperately

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not to yawn. That's the face you're making.

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I'm not so hard, I know you are.

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That's what's worrisome. We're all very worried. Michelle. Oh my gosh,

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poor poor thing. Yeah. This story is from NPR and

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it came out in December, but I just found it.

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Two men were found dead from exp Wow, she yawned

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on dead.

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Well, I mean it's the best time.

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Two men were found dead from exposure. What is with you?

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This is a news story. There's actually dead people why

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are you? What is happening?

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Okay, I'm good, it's fine.

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Take three right, Not that I'm editing this, but okay.

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Two men were found dead from exposure after looking for Sasquatch.

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Well that's not good.

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No, I like it. You don't laugh at sasquatch. You

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only left it dead and almost at exposure, but not

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at Sasquatch.

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Yeah, I mean Sasquatch isn't funny.

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I'm learning a lot about you. Two men from Oregon

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who went missing after going on a search for Sasquatch

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have been found dead, Washington state officials announced Saturday. The men,

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both from Portland, were reportedly miss reported missing by a

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family member on Christmas Day and were set to return

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from searching for the legendary creature in eastern Schamania County,

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which looks like ska Mania by the way, cool yeah

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it up, pick it up up up. On Christmas Eve,

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according to the county Sheriff's office, a search was launched

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and a vehicle associated with the two men was found

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off a road near Willard, Washington. After a three day

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search involving more than sixty people, the bodies of both

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men thirty seven and fifty nine, years old were found

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in Gifford Pinochet National Forest. Pinchot, not Pinochet. I was

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hoping I was about to say, like, Wow, that's the

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coolest national forest ever. Say've ever Pinochet. It's Pinchot. Glifford

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Pinchot National Forest, located in southwestern part of Washington State.

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If I lived out there, I would call it Pinochet

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National Forest. Everywhere he went, I know, in a heavily

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wooded area. According to the Scamania County Sheriff's Office, it's

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literally spelled Ska Mania. It's s k A M A N.

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I am in a move there. It'll be like being

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in a ska band. Everywhere you go. There's nine horn

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players as well as you.

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Yay.

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That was always the joke. I saw a few ska bands,

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like small ska bands when I was doing shows and stuff,

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and that was always the joke. Is like when you

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go see a ska band, there's more people on stage

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than watching. Yep, yep, yeah, it's a lot of horn playing.

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I like ska.

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I like ska too, It's just kind of it's niche.

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I guess people don't like Scott.

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I like Scott, and I love that meme that went

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around when it was like, how do you describe ska music.

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It's the sound that plays in a in a twelve

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year old's head when he gets extra mazzarellistics.

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Yeah, it totally is.

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So it's it's the sound of happiness.

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I mean sometimes.

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Well, their cause of death appears to be because of quote, exposure,

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based on weather conditions and ill preparedness, the Sheriff's office says.

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But also they were stomped to death and left covered

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in fur.

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Wait what, but it was it was exposure.

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Though it was exposure the area had faced. Oh yeah,

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they were getting pummeled with bad weather right at the

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at the end of December too, the area had faced

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rounds of snow and rain with temperatures in the thirties

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across the Cascades, and the days leading up to the

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men being reported missing, well, I mean that that would

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do it. I mean, and they're hiking in the mountains,

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they're hiking hard country. They don't have the proper coats, jackets, tents, whatever.

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I guess it would have been smart to just kind

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of wait until you know the weather was better, I guess.

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But it's Christmas time, so you gotta hunt for a Sasquatch.

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What do you guys do I mean, I don't live

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like close enough to a sasquatch hunt place, so we

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just kind of pretend we.

459
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:12.160
Like I thought, you're saying, we just hunt for the

460
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:12.920
Jersey Devil.

461
00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:16.079
Oh no, no, no, no, because he's dangerous, so we don't

462
00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:16.359
do that.

463
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:20.200
I mean, Sasquatch might be dangerous. I don't think so,

464
00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:22.759
probably not, but I'm just saying, I mean he could

465
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:24.319
be dangerous. I mean there are stories of him like

466
00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:28.119
throwing giant boulders at people's cars and stuff.

467
00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:30.680
But I never hear about the people getting killed.

468
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:33.559
Well, yeah, when they're dead that what about these two?

469
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:36.839
See this is the problem, the total denial.

470
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.759
Well, I mean it could be that what really happened,

471
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:45.319
I mean besides, like is that either is that he

472
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:50.279
like held them and they could not escape in like

473
00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:53.559
a place that was cold, and then they died.

474
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:56.839
Oh man, you're actually making it really scary. What if

475
00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.160
they like hauled up somewhere and Sasquatch was like keeping

476
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.240
them from getting back on the trail to go home.

477
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.960
Yeah exactly. Yeah, because there actually.

478
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:07.680
Be a conspiracy theorist because that's good.

479
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:11.200
Yeah, yeah, because they're actually there. They should have been

480
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:14.160
pretty prepared. They knew what the weather conditions were, but

481
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.000
like they just didn't know that they were not going

482
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:20.759
to be able to go home for that long. Hmmm.

483
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:25.680
It's rough man. Yeah, and he does this all the time,

484
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:29.160
and that's why people die in the wilderness.

485
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:31.839
And that's why they like when you watch like wilderness

486
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.559
survival videos, they're like, this is also obvious. It's because

487
00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:40.279
the squatch factor is what really gets people. Yeah, the

488
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:49.880
squatch factor on upn oh got him old the area.

489
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:52.680
Oh sorry. The search for the men also took place

490
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.799
amid difficult terrain and harsh weather conditions, as cruise faced

491
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:01.640
conditions such as freezing temperatures, snow, and high water levels.

492
00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:07.880
Law enforcement said. Sasquatch, commonly known as Bigfoot, is a large,

493
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.039
hairy figure that resembles a human and is thought to

494
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.240
live in northwestern parts of the US. It's thought to

495
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:15.920
live in a lot of places.

496
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:17.960
Yeah, pretty much all over the place.

497
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.920
I did an hour and ten minute video and podcast

498
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:28.599
about bigfoot sightings in Ohio, which is not close to

499
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:29.720
the northwest.

500
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.240
Said it could be that they meant sasquatch in particular,

501
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.759
like the name of this type of Bigfoot.

502
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:43.000
I don't know about that. Maybe, I mean there's Bigfoot,

503
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.759
there's sasquatch. Skunk Cape. I like skunk Cape. I think

504
00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:47.519
that's a cool name.

505
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:49.960
I think it's okay. I just feel bad for him

506
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.960
because it sounds like he smells, which is what they're

507
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:53.680
trying to say.

508
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:57.079
He does smell, mean, how does that mean that's an animal?

509
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.119
He just smells like cowie supposed to smell.

510
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:04.480
Yeah, just like a skunk smells how it's supposed to smell.

511
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.519
But skunks only smell like that when they're defending themselves.

512
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:09.720
Oh, skunks kind of stink all the time, if they

513
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:11.359
if they're not if they have the glands, though, they

514
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:13.480
still stink a little bit. I think.

515
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:16.920
So, I'm seen stunk. I've seen skunks before.

516
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.079
All right, I'm gonna buy you a skunk.

517
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:22.960
Okay, not a one, no, Because there was that time

518
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.759
I was inspecting a house and there was a skunk

519
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.039
in a cage in the room and it was hissing

520
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.440
at us, and I felt horrible for it.

521
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:35.759
Why were you being so mean to the skunk that

522
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:36.599
it had to hiss at you?

523
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.519
I don't know, And it wouldn't tell me what I

524
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:40.319
was doing wrong.

525
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.720
They probably just caged it so it stopped trying to

526
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:49.160
seduce their cat. That's my understanding of what skunks do.

527
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:53.480
Yeah, I understand there's a lot of misinformation about how

528
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:56.200
you know, creepy. They are.

529
00:29:58.720 --> 00:29:59.039
Fair.

530
00:29:59.519 --> 00:29:59.839
Fair.

531
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:04.200
The existence of bigfoot has been debated for decades, and

532
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:07.440
many have reported sightings of the creature. More than seven

533
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:11.079
hundred reports of bigfoot sightings in Washington State have been

534
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.920
submitted to the Bigfoot Field Researchers organization. The group says

535
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:20.079
in Scamania, harming bigfoot is punishable by a one thousand

536
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:23.400
dollars fine and can include jail time.

537
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:27.160
Okay, it all makes sense now, right, So Okay, they

538
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:29.359
were near a bigfoot and they had guns, and they

539
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.279
were like, we can't harm him because we're gonna go

540
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.519
to jail maybe, and we don't have any money to

541
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:36.880
pay for a fine. So that's why they died.

542
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.079
Well, there's the three S law when it comes to

543
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:43.440
protected animals. Shoot shovel, shut up.

544
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:46.039
It's a big animal though.

545
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:47.920
Yeah, it's a big, big animal.

546
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:51.759
Yeah. And also they could just not kill it and

547
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.799
then the bigfoot could go to the cops.

548
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:57.759
Bigfoot is not a snitch. See you get mad that

549
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:59.920
I refer to it as skunk Cape as an insult,

550
00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:02.440
and then you're like, anyway, Bigfoot is totally a snitch.

551
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:03.920
How rude.

552
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.480
He's just he's just doing what's best for himself. Okay,

553
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:08.440
oh wow.

554
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:12.319
The law meant to protect the mysterious creature as well

555
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:16.279
as prevent hunters with large beards from accidentally getting shot.

556
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:21.880
That's okay, that's funny. NPR, you're real clever. I'm sure

557
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:23.839
you listen to NPR, are they They're known for being

558
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:28.160
very funny, right, that's their thing, right, yes, because that's

559
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:31.200
why they're called NPR. No pulse required. All right, we're

560
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:35.279
gonna we're gonna take it. We're gonna take a quick break,

561
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:46.680
and we'll be back with even more spooky news. We're back,

562
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:51.279
more spooky news to come, Michelle. I found a story

563
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:57.440
about your home state of Pennsylvania. Oh and this story

564
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.640
made me chuckle and then double take. So I was like,

565
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:04.240
we have to talk about it. We may have heard

566
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:09.119
about this, maybe maybe not. This is from the Guardian

567
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:15.720
dot com. Pennsylvania Flood Museum temporarily closed due to flooding.

568
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.279
No, I didn't hear about it?

569
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:21.079
Is that not the best headline ever.

570
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:22.240
Yeah.

571
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:26.640
Yeah, and they're getting they're a little too into being

572
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:33.079
accurately to being authentic. That's the problem. Apparently, a museum

573
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:37.039
dedicated to commemorating the victims of a nineteenth century flood

574
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:42.119
in Pennsylvania has temporarily closed due to flooding caused on

575
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.039
the inside of the facility by a water leak stemming

576
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:50.559
from recent extremely cold weather official set on Monday. Fortunately

577
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:54.039
for its patrons, the Johnstown Flood Museum set on its

578
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.720
social media accounts that quote nothing of historic significance was

579
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.319
affected by or you're inundation. Well, shouldn't most of the

580
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:04.759
things in there have already been water damaged?

581
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:09.599
You think so? Right? So what about what historical things

582
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:11.880
have not been water damaged in the flood museum?

583
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.319
Yeah, exactly. It's like that would be the cruel iron

584
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:17.400
It be like it'd be like, uh, they just have

585
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:19.319
like a street lamp and like the one street lamp

586
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.039
that survived the flood and now it's been flooded inside

587
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.359
the museum. Yeah, is Johnstown near you? I don't know

588
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:26.200
where that is in PA.

589
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:30.720
Unless I'm like insane, I'm pretty sure Johnstown is an

590
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:38.920
incredibly poverty stricken town near Pittsburgh, because I've often seen

591
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:43.079
houses there that are very inexpensive, and I've thought those

592
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.759
are really nice. But I also know that there's basically

593
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:48.799
no work in the area and stuff.

594
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:53.279
If I'm correct, apparently there's work cleaning up the flood museum.

595
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:55.319
Now, well there was. It was it sounds like a

596
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.759
pipe burst. So that was for like five minutes.

597
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:03.519
I mean flooded. Oh apparently the original catastrophe killed a

598
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:08.440
lot of people, and nine people died in that flood.

599
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:11.119
That's a lot of people.

600
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:14.679
Actually, that's a hell of a flood then, because like damn,

601
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.800
wow what no laugh, Oh, it's because they're Pennsylvanian people.

602
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:24.039
If they were in Washington State, you'd be chuckling like

603
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:25.639
a like a hyena.

604
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:29.519
No, I just was thinking about yawning. I'm sorry. I

605
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.480
just kept thinking about yawning and then I was laughing

606
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:36.760
about it. Yeah, it is by Pittsburgh. I just checked

607
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:38.159
to make sure I was thinking about the wrong the

608
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:42.559
right place. Yeah, it's like a terribly impoverished area. Yeah.

609
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:44.079
Well, and I know there's a lot of history of

610
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.360
flooding on that side of PA. In general, there are

611
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.280
like a lot of towns that got evacuated and intentionally

612
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:50.199
flooded and stuff.

613
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:52.719
Quote.

614
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.840
We hope to soon have a timeline for reopening, The

615
00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:59.519
statement added. In the meantime, we appreciate your patients as

616
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:04.239
we worked to remediate and repair our beloved flagship museum.

617
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.000
Oh, it's their beloved museum.

618
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:08.719
It's a flagship museum.

619
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:10.639
To what I want to say, Johnstown?

620
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:13.079
I guess so do they have a bunch of museums

621
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:13.719
in Johnstown?

622
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:15.079
I think that's a no.

623
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:21.280
Fair. The statement also thanked to volunteer docent't at the museum,

624
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:25.239
Nikki Bosley, who was working in the archives when she

625
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:29.880
discovered the leak. Museum officials informed the local news outlet

626
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:34.280
WJAC that Bosley sounded the alarm and allowed us to

627
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:36.880
get in here and keep it from being much much

628
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:41.679
worse good. According to the museum officials, a valve failure

629
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:45.719
on the building's third floor caused the flooding. Makes sense,

630
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:49.760
I mean third floor because then the water runs down right?

631
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:50.400
Yeah?

632
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:54.679
Yeah. They told WJAC that water poured through the walls,

633
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:58.760
resulting in damage to the carpets, drywall, and ceiling tiles.

634
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.360
The facility is working with its insurance company to reopen

635
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:05.320
the building once the necessary work is completed as soon

636
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:08.719
as possible, and when the insurance adjusters are done laughing

637
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:12.440
very hard at the flood like we need to get

638
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:16.800
flood damage repaired. We're at at our flood museum. We're

639
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.519
not falling for this again. Not after that that those

640
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:21.760
people that said that a that a black bear ripped

641
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.320
up their car and had perfect video footage of it happening,

642
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:29.719
Well know about all that. The museum commemorates the Great

643
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:34.239
Johnstown Flood that occurred on thirty one May eighteen eighty nine, when,

644
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:39.000
after days of heavy rainfall. Oh, this makes sense, the

645
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:43.320
South Fork damn ruptured, gave way, and released twenty meter

646
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:49.639
metric tons of water, Wow again to the surrounding areas. Yeah,

647
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:51.440
that would explain why it was sudden and so many

648
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.880
people died because it was all at once.

649
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:55.320
Yeah.

650
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.360
The catastrophe claimed the riot lives of twenty two hundred

651
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:03.039
and nine people, including nine nine entire families, oh god,

652
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:09.800
nearly four hundred children. Yeah, and destroyed one thousand, six

653
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:14.840
hundred homes. According to Heritage Johnstown dot Org. Bodies were

654
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:17.639
found as far away as Cincinnati, Ohio.

655
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:18.719
Oh my god.

656
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:23.079
Well, the river that means I mean, wow, that's I mean,

657
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.320
that's really that's that's a good three and a half

658
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:26.000
hour drive.

659
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:29.880
And I think it's probably on the same sort of

660
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:34.920
like one of those was that longitudinal kind of play.

661
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:41.199
I think so, yeah it maybe, uh, I don't know, gosh.

662
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:45.559
In the years that followed, Johnstown experienced additional significant floods,

663
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.559
notably in nineteen thirty six and nineteen seventy seven.

664
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:51.360
Poor Johnstown.

665
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:55.880
Wow, they ended on that note too. Well, okay, fair enough, jeez,

666
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.480
well Johnstown. We hope you're uh, you guys are all right.

667
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.519
I will say though that, like, I'm very impressed with

668
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:05.239
their quick you know thinking and that person who called,

669
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:09.119
because I feel like if this was coming from if

670
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:11.840
this was a different scenario in a different article, they

671
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:14.440
may have just thought that, like a ghost was making

672
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:16.039
the water come out of the walls.

673
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:18.840
So do you want me to I should search Johnstown

674
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.760
on Mirro dot code at UK probably like ghostly flooding,

675
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:29.320
attax flood museum, uh oh, mirror dot co dot UK.

676
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.559
When I used to work at the TV station, we

677
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:36.480
had a pipe burst once and we were literally just

678
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.760
like we were waiting for them to come and shut

679
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:42.400
everything off. So we were like just with big brooms.

680
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.800
We were just pushing the water outdoors like that was

681
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.400
all we could we could do. And I just remember

682
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:50.400
getting a text and and the text just said, uh

683
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:53.599
uh when you get into work. It was like, where

684
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:56.159
wear waterproof shoes, if you boots, if you have them

685
00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:59.239
when you get to work, because DATV is sinking. And

686
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.679
I was like what And then I got there and

687
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:05.039
I was like, oh, wow, we're sinking. Okay, yeah, it

688
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:05.719
was nice.

689
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:07.719
That they let that they informed you to wear.

690
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:10.119
Not my boss, of course. It was like it was

691
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:11.000
like a coworker one.

692
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.679
I was gonna say, yeah, that's.

693
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.719
Sorry that guy. You're retired now, so I can I

694
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:18.519
can say he was terrible, a terrible boss, and and

695
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.000
even say DATV and not even well not what would

696
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:23.199
he had done come to my house and cry on me?

697
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:26.719
Fucker anyway, Sorry, my old boss was a terrible person.

698
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:34.199
I don't like him. Sorry, So what what? Well are

699
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:36.480
you gonna yawn about it? Now? Is that what you're gonna.

700
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:38.480
Do if you really want to keep saying that and

701
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:38.880
make me.

702
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:43.360
Yon about I didn't realize the word makes people yet

703
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:45.880
there it is. It makes people yawn. I didn't realize

704
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.599
that I'm learning so much. I know that seeing and

705
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:50.480
hearing yawning.

706
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:55.400
No, I mean, and he mentioned any word yawn. If

707
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:59.920
I see it in a manga, I yawn. I've drawn

708
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.840
arcs yawning and it's made me yawn.

709
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:06.400
So I'll tell you a funny story and then we're

710
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.840
going to take a quick break. I was working at

711
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:14.039
a distribution company and we were making artwork for this

712
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.480
was back when DVD was king, so it was DVD boxes,

713
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:19.360
and there was a shot of a guy in like

714
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:24.800
a guard uniform screaming his head off right like like

715
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:29.199
like just ah, And we used the photo on a

716
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:33.360
box cover because we owned We bought this package from

717
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:36.639
a photographer of photos, and after we used it, the

718
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:41.800
photographer was like, Uh, that guy was yawning and it

719
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:45.280
looks like he's screaming like crazy. It does. But now

720
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:48.199
whenever I see that box cover, I immediately go, wow,

721
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:50.079
it is so obvious that guy is yawning.

722
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:53.599
Well, it's kind of like I've seen, you know, on

723
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:56.519
like Twitter or whatever, like images of like cats and

724
00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:58.440
it's like, oh, that cat looks so me and it's

725
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:00.000
like very clearly that cat is yawning.

726
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:04.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah, vicious cat. Yeah yeah. I used to

727
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:06.960
get pictures of Chicano like right after a yawn where

728
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.840
he looked like he was like snarling and looking really angry.

729
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:13.559
It's funny, although he also always looked angry, so that

730
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.119
doesn't hurt. But we're gonna take a quick break and

731
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:18.320
when we get back, we're gonna talk about an abandoned

732
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:22.000
hospital and a locked door that should have stayed locked

733
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:37.360
right after this. Yeah, sorry, so we're back here with

734
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.719
some more spooky news. While we were in break, Michelle

735
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:43.960
decided to distract me by having us dive into some

736
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:47.280
crime statistics. So usually I'm the one that talks about

737
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:50.320
nothing between breaks and causes us to take forever to

738
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.760
do the show, but this time it was.

739
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.480
Cell Just so everyone knows, Johnstown really isn't safe, but

740
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:00.280
only slightly less safe than where I live.

741
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:03.760
So there you go, and where I live appears to

742
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.679
be pretty safe. But oddly, our murder rate is the

743
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.960
highest crime rate that we have. We have like very

744
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.079
few robberies. Very interesting.

745
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:14.519
Yeah, whereas where I live, we don't have a lot

746
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:16.679
of murders or rapes, but we have a lot of

747
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:18.840
robberies and a lot of assaults.

748
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:24.639
Weird, very weird. So anyway. This is a story from

749
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:28.480
Mirror dot co dot uk. The headline is I lived

750
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:34.679
in an abandoned hospital and found something terrifying behind locked door. Wait,

751
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:38.360
they lived there, That's what this says.

752
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:42.039
Is it abandoned if you live in it? I guess.

753
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:46.039
I mean, I'm assuming it's formerly abandoned. Or maybe they're squatting.

754
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:47.400
Yeah, they might be squatting.

755
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:52.800
Cool. A woman who once resided in an abandoned building

756
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:56.800
has shared a chilling discovery she made while exploring her

757
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:01.599
unconventional home. Aisha bear It, a London based TV producer,

758
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:04.880
used to live in a deserted hospital as a property

759
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:05.800
guard guardian.

760
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:08.519
Okay, oh, that's what I want to do.

761
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:11.199
I bet that's good work. I bet you could get

762
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:11.880
that pretty easy.

763
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:13.440
I want to do it.

764
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.880
A scheme that allows people to live affordably in vacant

765
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:21.519
properties to ensure they're maintained. During her stay in the

766
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:27.159
empty hospital, where over one hundred other tenants also lived, Okay,

767
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.000
what maybe there were a ton of people living there.

768
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:33.480
Maybe they mean in the past they lived there.

769
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.519
It's it also lived. Yeah, I don't know.

770
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:38.480
Then that's not that's not abandoned.

771
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.280
I feel like I would have said with where over

772
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.079
one hundred other tenants had also lived if it was.

773
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.000
But but then again I'm not. I'm expecting a copy

774
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:49.519
editor at the mirror. So yeah, she stumbled upon a

775
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:54.400
corridor lined with padlocked doors, which she believed was the

776
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:56.920
hospital's morgue.

777
00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:57.719
Okay.

778
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.960
The TV producer known for her work on Celebrity Coach Trip,

779
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:05.719
The Fortune Hotel, and Great British Bakeoff, posted a video

780
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:09.079
on TikTok of her walking down the eerie corridor. She

781
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:11.679
captioned the clip, I can't believe I don't make more

782
00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:14.519
money working in mainstream television in the United king No,

783
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:20.119
that's how I was saying. Pov pov finding the morgue

784
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:24.239
in the abandoned hospital I live in, That's what she

785
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:27.519
she captioned. In the video, she says, this is the morgue.

786
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:29.679
People do ask me about this all the time, So

787
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.800
this is the morgue. She pointed out the padlocks on

788
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.800
the doors, saying, quote, as you can see, they got

789
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.760
they've got these on them. I didn't know originally what

790
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:41.320
these were, but that's what someone in the comments told.

791
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:44.239
Me, that they were padlocks or.

792
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:47.920
I think that it was a morg Oh, okay, I

793
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:50.159
would be saying it even if I knew it wasn't true.

794
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.400
I'd be like, Oh, that's the morgue. I'd be like, Oh,

795
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:56.159
that's the infectious disease morgue. I'd be like making entirely

796
00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:58.960
new stuff up, you know. I'd be like, Oh, yeah,

797
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:01.599
that's that's where they kept, you know, the criminally insane.

798
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.360
Yeah, yeah, that's why it's padlocked.

799
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:11.840
Aisha ventured down the corridor, the entire corridor, admitting she

800
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:15.400
had never come here before, encountering another corridor that was

801
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:21.320
blocked by a wooden panel. A poster slapped on the

802
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:26.599
door issued a stark warning quote, no unauthorized persons allowed

803
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:30.599
beyond this point, ramping up the eeriness. That's kind of

804
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:32.960
a normal thing in a hospital or an abandoned building.

805
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:36.519
Though exactly like I mean, especially in a hospital like

806
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:40.320
this is not as place for patients to go. No, No,

807
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:41.599
it's not a big deal.

808
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:46.280
Though. I mean, it says there was a wooden panel,

809
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:49.840
which I'm assuming they mean like it was boarded, I'm

810
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:51.559
guessing is what they mean by a wooden panel.

811
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:53.960
Yeah.

812
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.320
Backing out of from the location, she stated quote it's creepy.

813
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:00.800
Might be a little too creepy for me this part.

814
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:03.760
But people always ask where's the morgue? Where's the morgue?

815
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:07.320
And I think I've finally found it, she vowed, quote

816
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.800
don't ask me to go there again. I don't want

817
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:10.840
to get possessed.

818
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:13.239
Is this the whole thing?

819
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:16.719
No, there's there's a little bit more, but uh, I

820
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:18.880
do think that's funny. I mean, all I would be

821
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.000
doing is to be posting like go again, Go again,

822
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:23.639
like possession or GTFO.

823
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.679
I'm just like a little bit surprised though, because like

824
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.800
this to me isn't content. Like I don't mean this,

825
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:35.440
this this news article. I mean, I wouldn't post like, look,

826
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:37.320
I went down a hallway and I'm not going to

827
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.000
go any further. But it's probably scary.

828
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:43.960
I mean, the news content is also not content.

829
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:45.840
Yeah, Like one of my.

830
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:48.400
Favorite things about reading news stories is realizing that a

831
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:51.719
news story is just reporting a TikTok. It's a very

832
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.960
common occurrence. Yeah, I know, and not just at Mirror

833
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:57.800
dot Code at UK. I get recommended news stories on

834
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:00.559
my Google homepage all the time that are just reporting

835
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:03.880
a TikTok. So I guess that's news.

836
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:05.159
Yes.

837
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.119
Aisha added a dash of sarcasm to her TikTok post,

838
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.159
saying a corridor filled with padlocked doors is the suspected

839
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:17.400
more in the suspected morg area of the abandoned hospital

840
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:21.880
I live in. That's okay, that's so fine. I mean

841
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:23.920
you live, you're living in a hospital.

842
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:25.360
Yeah, what do you want?

843
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.079
People died there for sure?

844
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:33.320
Yeah? Maybe no the even I mean like they have

845
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:36.280
to a No, we don't know that they died allegedly.

846
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:41.840
Oh I love this, This is this is definitely news content.

847
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.400
Morgs serve as waiting rooms for decease the deceased until

848
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.239
final identification, burial or cremation can occur, and are also

849
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.840
utilized for autopsies to establish causes of death. The video

850
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:55.760
is racked up seven hundred and forty three thousand views,

851
00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:00.119
thirty eight thousand likes, and hundreds of comments, and it's

852
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:03.480
safe to say people were equally as freaked out. One

853
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:06.719
theorized quote there was a face peering at you through

854
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:10.119
the glass in the door by the morgaria good good

855
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:14.840
And another asked what was that lump on the floor. Oh,

856
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:21.880
that's where it ended the article. Oh, I usually don't

857
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.719
read these anymore. But there's a comment on this article

858
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:27.519
that I really love from a person who calls themselves threepence,

859
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:30.039
and all it says is, so the story is you

860
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.000
lived in an abandoned hospital with a morgue exactly.

861
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.960
Yeah, It's like, oh wow, you lived in a place

862
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:41.000
that had things that were normal in that place.

863
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.760
I'm just glad that the Mirror dot co dot uk

864
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:48.960
is here to report things that matter.

865
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:50.760
Yeah.

866
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:57.360
So it really is a mixed bag. Yeah, but I

867
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:01.119
gotta I gotta give it to them. They're tabloid level

868
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:05.880
reporting of this stuff is very amusing and makes me nostalgic.

869
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:08.599
Well, good, good, Did you ever.

870
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:10.400
Read tabloids when you were when you were like a

871
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:13.280
teenageer or anything. I used to read the weekly World

872
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:17.480
News all the time, which, believe it or not, it's

873
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:21.199
not just photoshop. It actually had articles, articles and articles

874
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:24.920
and articles, and I used to love reading them. Some

875
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:27.519
of them were like, laugh out loud, funny.

876
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:28.760
Wow, that's nice.

877
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:33.920
They did this one thing where what was it where

878
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.920
the Pope gets hit by a meteor and like the

879
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.400
cover was like the Pope like going uh and like

880
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:42.519
a medior just like smashing into him. But the funniest

881
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:44.679
part about the article was it starts like reporting where

882
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:46.559
he was and what was going on when the media

883
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:49.159
hit and then it mentions like the last time the

884
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.159
Pope was hit by a meteor, he was able to

885
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:53.800
do this and this and this. However this time because

886
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:56.119
it came from a westerly direction, and I was like, wait.

887
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:59.519
What, okay? I really like that.

888
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:02.760
They also did one one of my other favorites was

889
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:06.320
it was just it was just elderly pope gives entire

890
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:10.840
gives entire pople presentation while wearing Spider Man mask. No

891
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:15.400
one brave enough to say anything about it, so they

892
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:16.920
seem to have it like out for the Pope a

893
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.679
little bit, which I could appreciate. That was pretty funny.

894
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.480
So but anyway, we're gonna take a quick break and

895
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.519
we'll be back with even more spooky news, maybe even

896
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:28.119
not from here dot co dot UK, at least not

897
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:42.760
this time. Right after this, we're back. And something I

898
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:46.559
have learned after two ish years or something of us

899
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:51.320
doing monthly Spooky is there's always something spooky and creepy

900
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:56.239
coming out of the ocean. Usually there's almost always Remember

901
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.400
that article that said, like the article that we lost

902
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.519
our minds. Ever, that just said, like sharks biting people's feet,

903
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:06.199
It's just that they think that they're fish, and like

904
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.679
the whole article read like a shark wrote it. Yeah,

905
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:11.840
so don't be afraid to go swimming. As long as

906
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:14.400
you do this and this, the fact that shark are

907
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.000
biting people's feet, a lot will go away. It's fine.

908
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:18.000
You should go on the water.

909
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:19.960
You'll love it. Yeah, they don't mean it.

910
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:28.199
So this article caught my attention from NPR. The headline

911
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.760
is did a whale swallow a kayaker?

912
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:32.960
Oh?

913
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:36.599
The truth behind a viral video? Have you heard about this?

914
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:39.360
Like I heard about it in the way that like

915
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:41.559
I scrolled past something and then I was like, wait,

916
00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:42.880
what was that? And I didn't go back.

917
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.679
Well, I'm going to show you the video real quick. Okay,

918
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:51.320
So we see a kayaker. It says that he's in Chile.

919
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:54.800
Holy crap, did the whale eat him?

920
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:55.119
No?

921
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:55.719
There he is.

922
00:51:57.440 --> 00:51:59.440
Yes, I thought I had been eaten, but of course

923
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:01.679
I felt that maybe it was a killer whale. His

924
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:08.119
boat got flipped over and uh, but when I got out,

925
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:11.559
I understood that of course it was probably out of

926
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:14.000
curiosity that the whale had approached me or maybe to

927
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:18.360
communicate or something, I.

928
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:21.679
Mean, or maybe wanted to Kno, what did you say,

929
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:23.119
Maybe it wanted to knock him over.

930
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:27.039
Well, yeah, it was probably just curious, but uh, for

931
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.159
the record, this says swallow kayaker, but then the actual

932
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:35.320
video says whale swallows kayaker off Chile before releasing him.

933
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:39.480
So apparently it just knocked his boat around. And thank goodness.

934
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:41.639
But what's crazy that somebody was nearby to film it.

935
00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:43.079
I think I was just a friend of his who

936
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.320
was kayaking with him. He's in an inflatable kayak, which

937
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:48.559
I actually can I get this guy's email. I want

938
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:50.800
to know if those are worth it because I love kayaking,

939
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:53.239
but I'm worried that they're not strong enough. Although it

940
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:55.559
handled a humpback whale, so that's good.

941
00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:59.480
I think I saw someone on a on a parranormal

942
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:00.960
show used one of those recently.

943
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:04.320
Yeah, because I drive a Prius and if you put

944
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:07.000
like a kayak rack on the top of your car,

945
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:10.480
it kills your gas mileage like a lot. Yeah, I

946
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:13.239
would think so, but the problem is it's the rack,

947
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:15.840
not even the kayak will will hurt your gas mileage.

948
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:19.639
So and I looked into it and like, it's very

949
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:21.679
hard to get a reliable rack that you can just

950
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:24.599
pop off and put on and pop off and put on. Yeah,

951
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:26.880
so that's why I don't own a kayak, because I

952
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:28.400
love kayaking like so much.

953
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:30.920
Can you put the kayak up there without a rack

954
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:33.760
and just really really strap it down?

955
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:37.199
Yeah, there are people who do that. They use pool

956
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:41.760
noodles to cushion it against a car. Yeah. Also just

957
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:46.760
seems dangerous and yeah, so anyway, we have an article

958
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:50.199
to read too, but the video does not show exactly

959
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:53.760
what the headline is. Of course. A father son duo

960
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:57.239
kayaking off the coast of Chile have made waves after

961
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.440
after sharing a video of what appears to show a

962
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:04.039
humpback whale briefly scooping one of them into its mouth.

963
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:09.159
The video was pretty far away, but it did kind

964
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:11.360
of look like he had been swallowed up for a second.

965
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:13.360
It really did, I'm going to guess.

966
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:14.800
Yeah.

967
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:19.599
Adrian Simanakas Simancas was kayaking in the Strait of Magellan

968
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.679
in southern Chile on Saturday when the whale suddenly surfaced

969
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:26.280
and engulfed him. According to the Associated Press quote, I

970
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:28.960
thought it had already eaten and swallowed me, the twenty

971
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.079
four year old told the AP. At first, when I

972
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:34.039
thought I had died, it was of course a lot

973
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:36.719
of terror because I thought, no, no, there was nothing

974
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:39.679
I could do. Okay, first of all, I guess somebody

975
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:42.119
doesn't know about Jonah and the whale.

976
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:44.599
Oh yeah, yeah.

977
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:46.679
You just go in there and start playing xylophone on

978
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:48.960
its ribcage and figure out a way out. And there'll

979
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:51.239
already be another guy there who's like started a fire

980
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:54.119
and you know, is living off the land.

981
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:57.320
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you don't have to worry

982
00:54:57.320 --> 00:54:59.000
that there's not air inside whales.

983
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:03.679
Yeah, they breathe air. They breathe air.

984
00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:05.800
It's fine in their stomachs.

985
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:09.079
Yes. Oh you don't know.

986
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:14.000
I looked up this whole thing when I was doing

987
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:17.440
my podcast about like could you live inside an animal?

988
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:20.039
And it's like, no, there's not air in there. You can't.

989
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:24.199
No, yeah, not for long. It would be much more

990
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:26.840
like Tremor's three, when Burt Gummer was able to live

991
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:30.119
inside the graboid for like about eight or nine minutes

992
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:31.800
and he passed out from a lack of air right

993
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:35.480
before they cut him out. So so he was also

994
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:39.199
swallowed in a drum barrel like a big drum that

995
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:41.360
protected him as well. All Right, and that's enough about

996
00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:44.400
Tremors three. On the podcast Nobody's Here to talk about

997
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:47.760
Tremor's three. His father Deal happened to be filming at

998
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:50.000
the time and caught the whole incident on camera from

999
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:55.119
a safe distance. He told CNN Espanol he started recording

1000
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:58.639
when he saw quote pretty waves that seemed exciting, but

1001
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.159
there turned out to be much more beneath the surface.

1002
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:06.159
The younger Simanakas, told CNN that he felt a strong

1003
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:09.559
force hit him from behind, lifting him up. When I

1004
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.519
turned around, I felt a slimy texture on my face,

1005
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:16.239
Simankas said, I could see colors like dark blue and

1006
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:20.159
white approaching me from behind, closing around me and pulling

1007
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:24.119
me under. Dale's video posted by the AP shows the

1008
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:28.079
whale leaping up, then disappearing underwater with Simancas and his

1009
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:32.239
yellow inflatable kayak. After a few seconds, both the kayak

1010
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:36.159
and its life best clad passenger bobbed back to the surface,

1011
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:40.719
but Simonkas says his relief was quickly overtaken by fear

1012
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.440
that something would happen to his dad, or that he

1013
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:48.000
would get hypothermia from being in the water. Yeah, that's

1014
00:56:48.039 --> 00:56:49.400
a reasonable fear.

1015
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:49.840
Yeah.

1016
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:53.719
Yeah. Simancas managed to grab onto the boat and swim

1017
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:56.039
it over to his dad, who paddled them to safety.

1018
00:56:56.440 --> 00:56:59.360
As he reflected on his experience, he guessed the whale

1019
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:02.039
didn't mean any harm. Yeah, I'm sure the whale didn't

1020
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:03.320
mean you any harm, but just put you in its

1021
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:05.000
mouth and then realize that you were buoyant. So what

1022
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.199
let you go because it would be annoying to chew you,

1023
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:07.920
I guess.

1024
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:12.440
So, so we should probably discuss this. Yeah, this is

1025
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:17.519
a humpback whale, right, Yes, they eat like plankton and shit.

1026
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:19.920
I don't know if they could even eat a human

1027
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:22.119
if they wanted to, or even put it in their mouths.

1028
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:24.760
Oh, I mean they have a big mouth, but yeah

1029
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:27.960
they do. They They don't just eat plankton and krill.

1030
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:34.239
They also eat smaller fish and crustaceans, but nothing even

1031
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:36.079
near the size of a person. I don't think.

1032
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:39.360
Yeah, I don't think they would try to eat it person.

1033
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:46.119
Yeah, they mostly eat krill and plankton, but humpback whale

1034
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:47.519
eat person?

1035
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:49.960
Can they even get in their mouths?

1036
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:52.480
Yeah, their mouths are huge. Their mouths are huge.

1037
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:56.000
But but like I know, they have like things.

1038
00:57:56.719 --> 00:58:00.880
They have like they have like a thing that like stops. Yeah,

1039
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:03.639
it's like a filter to filter out the plankton's. Yeah.

1040
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:06.920
Is that called like baileen? Maybe?

1041
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.519
Uh could be Uh. There are other stories of humpback

1042
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:12.480
whales pulling people under in their mouths.

1043
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.320
Oh well, maybe they just really like hurting people.

1044
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:18.159
Oh my gosh, Oh I got to show you this picture.

1045
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:22.599
Oh wait, where did it go? Oh no, I've done

1046
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:25.519
a bad job. Oh there it is. Okay, look at

1047
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:27.719
this shell. This is what their mouths look like.

1048
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:29.639
Oh that's so big.

1049
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:33.000
Yeah, that could put a person could go in there.

1050
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:35.000
Yeah, yeah definitely.

1051
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:37.159
But it's not going to eat you, but it could

1052
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:38.360
totally put you in its mouth.

1053
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:40.360
Okay, well that's good to know.

1054
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:44.960
Yeah. That that's I was about to make a Simpsons reference.

1055
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:46.440
That wouldn't make any sense. I was about to say,

1056
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:49.559
that'll replace the whale in me nightmares, except that that's

1057
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:50.559
it's a whale.

1058
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:54.599
Yeah.

1059
00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:56.519
When I got out quote. When I got out, I

1060
00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:59.239
understood that. Of course, it was probably out of curiosity

1061
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:02.559
that the mail approach or whale approach approached me, or

1062
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:06.480
maybe wanted to communicate or something. Whale experts have another theory.

1063
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:11.880
Two researchers told NPR that the most likely explanation is

1064
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:14.639
that simonkas happened to be in the way of a

1065
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:18.280
feeding whale, one that was hungry for krill and small

1066
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:20.320
fish and not a human.

1067
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:23.239
Oh okay, and he wasn't even like paying attention. He

1068
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:25.199
was like, I gotta eat these things and things in

1069
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:28.079
my way. I'm just gonna go right quote.

1070
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.679
My guess is that the whale was just as surprised

1071
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:35.280
as the kayaker. I doubt that. Well, I just don't.

1072
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.719
I think that we're very surprised when a whale puts

1073
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:39.599
us in its mouth.

1074
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:42.440
Well, do you know, like when you're you're riding on

1075
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:46.039
your bike and you eat a bug accidentally and you

1076
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.119
didn't want to. I imagine it's like.

1077
00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:52.519
As opposed to when you want to. Yeah, I've never

1078
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:53.880
eaten a bug riding a bike.

1079
00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:56.519
Well, what about has one ever gone in your eye

1080
00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:57.760
when you're riding a bike?

1081
00:59:58.440 --> 00:59:58.960
I don't think.

1082
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:01.760
So where are you riding bikes that there aren't that

1083
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:05.079
many bugs outside? Okay?

1084
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:10.199
Maybe I haven't I blocked it. I don't know, but

1085
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:13.840
but I feel like I like I would be more

1086
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:15.480
scared of the whale than the whale is of me.

1087
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:18.199
The whale probably be like, I get out of my mouth, stupid,

1088
01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:21.519
like I'm trying to eat krill and plankton as where

1089
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:24.280
I would, you know, like poop myself.

1090
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:28.280
But it would be surprising, though, because the whale wasn't

1091
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:31.519
trying to eat a person, so it was like, oh, there's.

1092
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:35.119
Yeah, Yeah, it'd be it'd be surprising like finding you know,

1093
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:37.920
like biting into an apple and then being like, oh,

1094
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:40.639
I left the label on it. Should get that out

1095
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:41.239
of my mouth, you know.

1096
01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:43.239
I mean I was thinking more like biting into a

1097
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:45.519
piece of broccoli and then looking down and realizing that

1098
01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:47.320
there's like half a bug there.

1099
01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:49.440
Has this happened to you as well?

1100
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.039
No, but I have seen lots of bugs in our broccoli.

1101
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:56.039
What the where do you get your broccoli.

1102
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:59.000
At the store? I never had in the dumpster.

1103
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:04.360
No, we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna

1104
01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:14.840
get to the bottom of this. Right after this, Michelle

1105
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:17.639
is trying to convince me that I just don't check

1106
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:24.039
my broccoli close enough to realize I have bugs in it.

1107
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:26.559
Jokes on you. I don't really care if I eat

1108
01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:30.760
the bugs, but I have never found bugs in my broccoli.

1109
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:32.679
And if you are listening to this, if you're one

1110
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:36.000
of the people who avidly listens to Michelle and I

1111
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:39.320
do this show and has watched the balance turn from

1112
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:43.000
me tormenting her to her tormenting me over the last

1113
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:48.760
two years, send an email to weekly at gmail dot com.

1114
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:51.639
I want to hear if you deal with bugs in

1115
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:54.840
your broccoli. And I don't mean that as a euphemism.

1116
01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:57.400
I mean that Michelle may be insane.

1117
01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:00.360
No, like this is my entire life, like I had

1118
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.440
it when I was a kid. I just a couple

1119
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:04.559
of days ago, had some bugs in mo broccoli.

1120
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:12.599
Pumpback whales feed by quickly lunging through a school of

1121
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:16.360
fish with their mouths wide open, then straining the water

1122
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:21.039
out through their bailey. Oh there it is bailey, the

1123
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:24.559
fringed plates that they have inside their mouths instead of teeth.

1124
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:30.119
If something or someone else mistakenly enters their path, that

1125
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:36.559
can be quote unintentionally and just momentarily engulfed. Robin explains, quote.

1126
01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:38.960
I'm sure it closes its eyes so it doesn't get

1127
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:41.199
damaged by anything. And I think this is one of

1128
01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:44.119
those one in a million situations where the fellow seemed

1129
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:46.320
to be at the wrong place at the wrong time,

1130
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:50.239
said doctor Ian Kerr, the CEO of the whale conservation

1131
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:55.360
nonprofit Ocean Alliance. Reports of such incidents are rare, but

1132
01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:59.280
not unheard of. In twenty twenty one, a Massachusetts lobster

1133
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:01.480
diver said, a back whale it scooped him up and

1134
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:03.360
spit him out. That's what I found when I was

1135
01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:08.400
doing my little research. Yeah, but unlike the Old Testament's Jonah,

1136
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:11.119
these men didn't spend three days and nights in the

1137
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:14.239
belly of the whale. They didn't even reach it, nor

1138
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:17.239
could they have. Ooh, well, now that now you just

1139
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:21.719
sound like you're working for the whale lobby. Experts say

1140
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:24.480
it's not just possible for a whale, or it's just

1141
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:27.400
not possible for a whale to swallow something as large

1142
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:30.800
as a person. Their mouths are massive, as wide as

1143
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:32.119
ten feet.

1144
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:33.159
Wow.

1145
01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:38.440
Their throats are much smaller, roughly the size of a

1146
01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:39.559
human fist.

1147
01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:42.000
Wow, and confusing.

1148
01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:46.920
That's very confusing, cur says. Humpback whales don't even want

1149
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:50.239
to try, especially considering doing so could lead to a

1150
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:55.440
potentially life threatening jaw injury. Oh no, quote, they have

1151
01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:58.760
no interest in eating us or hurting us. He said that.

1152
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:02.000
Hold on, you're making a big assumption to me. They

1153
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:04.760
don't want to hurt us just because they can't eat us.

1154
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:08.280
That's the other and saying they have no interest in

1155
01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:12.199
eating us. No, they're incapable. There is a difference. Well,

1156
01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:16.840
they could try, they could crave our deaths, but be

1157
01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.119
incapable of swallowing us whole.

1158
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:21.039
Yeah, they could rip us apart.

1159
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:23.679
Oh yeah, we're just drownd us.

1160
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:28.000
And then I don't know. That's it.

1161
01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:30.639
It's not to their benefit. Many of these animals are

1162
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.639
living this life of energy balance. What energy does it

1163
01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:36.559
take for me to catch my prey? Et cetera. Still,

1164
01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:40.480
experts encourage humans in any whale prone areas to give

1165
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:44.480
the animals a wide berth. In the US, federal law

1166
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.519
requires at least one hundred yards of distance from a

1167
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:50.320
whale for the sake of both species. Does the whale

1168
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:52.239
follow that law as well as the people do?

1169
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.079
For the record, I mean I don't know, because this

1170
01:04:55.199 --> 01:04:59.360
wasn't in the US, so we don't know the law.

1171
01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:00.000
Yeah.

1172
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:01.599
Yeah.

1173
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:05.119
While some whale populations are rebounding, cur says others are

1174
01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:08.320
quote dying sort of a death of one thousand cuts

1175
01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:13.199
from threats like ship strikes, line entanglement, and pollution. And

1176
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:16.920
though Simonka's video has made quite a splash, Kerr says,

1177
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:20.599
it's a lot harder to translate that attention into actually

1178
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:24.719
helping whales splash, I get it. Quote. The reality is

1179
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:28.440
the oceans are downhill from everything and gravity never sleeps.

1180
01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:32.280
I tend to say healthy whales, healthy oceans, healthy humans.

1181
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:34.760
So even if you don't like whales, even if you

1182
01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:38.039
don't like whale, I hate those whales. So even if

1183
01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:41.000
you don't like whales, there's still value in understanding what's

1184
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:45.719
going on in our oceans, and whales are barometers of

1185
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:49.199
that health. He helps this whales turn in the spotlight

1186
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:52.440
will inspire viewers to get involved, whether by learning more

1187
01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:55.760
about the dozens of different whale species or donating to

1188
01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:58.400
a local ocean charity. I don't know if I have

1189
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:00.800
a local ocean charity, because I I'm in Ohio.

1190
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:04.559
Yeah, I'm sorry. I also just don't know that a

1191
01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:07.639
story like this where a whale kind of almost like

1192
01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:10.599
puts a thing person in their mouth is going to

1193
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:13.199
make people go like wow, I want to donate to

1194
01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:14.320
whale charities.

1195
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:16.679
It does because if they read it out of like,

1196
01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:18.599
if they're really shocked to the point of reading it,

1197
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:21.960
they'll learn like it can't even possibly swallow you. You

1198
01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:25.360
should trust the whale. Let the whale eat you. It's great.

1199
01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:28.079
I mean that might be kind of fun.

1200
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:31.079
Quote the more you love something, the more you want

1201
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:35.199
to keep it or keep it healthy. Yet so yeah,

1202
01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:38.280
that's kind of sweet, I guess in a weird, kind

1203
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:40.239
of whale centric way.

1204
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:41.400
Like whales.

1205
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:46.159
I don't hate whales, although, ever, you know the movie Jaws.

1206
01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:52.360
No, yes, you do know the movie Jaws?

1207
01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:52.679
Right?

1208
01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:54.599
Yes?

1209
01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:56.880
Are you lying?

1210
01:06:57.239 --> 01:06:57.440
No?

1211
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:01.440
Okay, I just thinking. Sure? God, well, there was a

1212
01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:04.239
there were a lot of ripoff movies of Jaws, and

1213
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:07.440
one of my favorites was the movie Orca, the Killer Whale.

1214
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:09.079
Orcas are kind of scary.

1215
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:13.239
Yeah, and that movie made me so much more afraid

1216
01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:14.639
of the ocean than Jaws did.

1217
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:17.119
Okay, yeah, yeah.

1218
01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:19.960
Like Orca is a really freaking scary movie. I mean, like,

1219
01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:23.960
this whale, basically, this guy, if I'm remembering correctly, this

1220
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:27.519
guy accidentally kills the mate of the Orca I think

1221
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:29.000
it was, or maybe it was a child. I think

1222
01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:32.320
it was the mate, and the Orca starts following this

1223
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:35.559
guy around by scent on his fishing boats, attacks his

1224
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:37.360
He has a house that's like on stilts at the

1225
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:39.480
edge of the water. It like breaks the stilts and

1226
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:44.119
eats his wife. It's it's really good and scary, and

1227
01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:46.039
it also has the hilarious moment that you have in

1228
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:48.440
Jaws where you're like, man, I'm so afraid of the shark. Well,

1229
01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:50.719
time to get in the ocean, Like what Like, no,

1230
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:53.199
that's when you go, Well, time to move to Missouri,

1231
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:58.440
you know. No, that's too close to rivers. Yeah so,

1232
01:07:59.480 --> 01:08:03.559
but uh yeah, that's when Orca is always scared the

1233
01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:06.519
hell out of me. It's a really good, fun, cheesy

1234
01:08:07.119 --> 01:08:09.760
Jaws rip off, and there are plenty of them, but

1235
01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:12.440
this is that's one I've always I've always liked a lot.

1236
01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:15.039
So maybe I'll force you to watch it one day,

1237
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:21.159
you know, after you finish oz So. But we're gonna

1238
01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:23.520
take a quick break and do one more story because

1239
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:29.960
this one made me extremely curious. It's about something mysterious

1240
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:36.600
that appeared on one thousand graves in Munich, Germany. We'll

1241
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:40.119
find out more after not well, I mean, I mean,

1242
01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:42.479
it's not a Jewish cemetery as far as I can tell,

1243
01:08:42.520 --> 01:08:45.159
but maybe it is. I don't know, but we'll find

1244
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:58.720
out after this. This story cell comes from Huffington Post,

1245
01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:03.000
and and I'm really curious what the hell is going

1246
01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:06.199
on because the headline made me do a double take.

1247
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:13.199
It says QR code stickers mysteriously appear on one thousand

1248
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:14.800
Munich graves.

1249
01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:19.319
Okay, I mean, it's not hard to put stickers on things,

1250
01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:20.560
but it's interesting.

1251
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:24.640
Well, and a thousand of them. It just it's a

1252
01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:25.560
lot going on.

1253
01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:27.359
Yeah.

1254
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:31.680
So the story reads police and Munich are investigating a mystery.

1255
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:35.760
More than one thousand stickers were put on gravestones and

1256
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:39.239
wooden crosses at three cemeteries in the German city.

1257
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:45.039
There's something wooden crosses that's not okay because the sticker

1258
01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:47.520
is going to get stuck there, you know, like really stuck,

1259
01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:49.920
and it's gonna be hard to get off. Like it's

1260
01:09:49.960 --> 01:09:52.199
that's basically defacing, because I would think, I feel like

1261
01:09:52.239 --> 01:09:54.640
a stone you can get, you can get the sticker off,

1262
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:56.520
you can probably clean it, Okay.

1263
01:09:56.439 --> 01:09:58.960
Sure you can, but like I think that's still defacing

1264
01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:03.279
the tombstone. Yeah, I mean because like if I have to,

1265
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:05.680
if somebody has to come out with googon and scrape

1266
01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:07.760
your tombs. So that's not cool that they have to

1267
01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:08.039
do that.

1268
01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:10.319
I mean you can probably use acton.

1269
01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:13.359
Still not cool.

1270
01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:14.600
Okay, brow.

1271
01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:20.560
In the German city without any indication of where they

1272
01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:22.039
came from or why.

1273
01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:27.479
Did they go, did they check what the QR codes

1274
01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:28.039
go to?

1275
01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:29.960
It gets weirder.

1276
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:32.560
Okay.

1277
01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:35.920
The five by three point five centimeter or one point

1278
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:39.279
nine to five by one half inch stickers are printed

1279
01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:43.800
with a QR code that, when scanned, shows the name

1280
01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:46.640
of the person buried in the grave and its location

1281
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:49.840
in the cemetery, but nothing else.

1282
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:56.319
But but but but but yeah, all that information also

1283
01:10:56.399 --> 01:10:58.720
be on the grave though, and they're all they also

1284
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:01.439
know the location because they're threat the grave.

1285
01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:02.920
So why would that be helpful.

1286
01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:05.439
Well, here's the thing that freaks me out about that.

1287
01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:12.439
It's so that means each sticker is individually made for

1288
01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:16.039
that marker. Is you have to you have to generate

1289
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:19.039
a QR code. They may have had like one of

1290
01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:21.399
those hand printers, you know, just printing them out as

1291
01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:22.560
they go or whatever.

1292
01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:25.840
Sure, oh okay, I understand.

1293
01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:27.920
Yeah, they could have like it could be connected to

1294
01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:30.680
your phone or whatever. But like, but here's the thing.

1295
01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:37.520
Who's cataloging these things without permission? Like what is the

1296
01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:39.279
That's what freaks me out because like if it went

1297
01:11:39.279 --> 01:11:42.199
to a website or like a band thing or like

1298
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:46.239
some creepy pastable crap or promoting like an indie movie

1299
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:48.640
or an album or something, I'd be like, yeah, whatever,

1300
01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:52.520
But the fact that it's just informational is actually really

1301
01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:53.520
confusing to me.

1302
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:58.119
Yeah, I mean, the thing is it's not that I mean,

1303
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:01.720
I'm sure that the cemetery is been during the day, right,

1304
01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:04.399
so it's not it's not like someone couldn't have done that,

1305
01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:08.159
couldn't have just cataloged and then like sent it to

1306
01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:11.920
the label maker, to the Zebra label maker. That doesn't

1307
01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:14.439
work all the time, and then they like pull it off?

1308
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:20.319
But why and also how does it help? How does

1309
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:25.279
that information help because it's already on the tombstone? Yeah,

1310
01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:29.319
well maybe it's for for blind people, but then how they.

1311
01:12:29.479 --> 01:12:33.720
Would they find a QR code? Yeah it's a Braille

1312
01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:34.520
QR code.

1313
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:36.479
Yeah.

1314
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:40.720
Quote. We haven't found any pattern behind this yet. The

1315
01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:44.439
stickers were put both on decades old gravestones and very

1316
01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:47.720
new graves that so far that so far only have

1317
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:50.479
wooden crosses, so those are temporary markets.

1318
01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:51.479
Okay, got it.

1319
01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:56.399
Police spokesperson Christian Drexler told the Associated Press on Wednesday,

1320
01:12:56.840 --> 01:12:59.720
people who have witnessed anybody putting stickers on the graves

1321
01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:04.760
are to reach out to their respective cemetery's administration. He said.

1322
01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:09.920
The stickers surfaced in recent days at the Walder Friedhoff, Sendlinger,

1323
01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:15.359
Freedhoff and Friedhoff Sullen cemeteries, So it's there's yeah, it's

1324
01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:16.640
three cemeteries in Munich.

1325
01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:17.319
Wow.

1326
01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:20.039
Police are not only trying to find out who is

1327
01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:23.640
behind the stickers, but also investigating property damage because the

1328
01:13:23.680 --> 01:13:31.119
gravestones were partially damaged and discolored when the stickers were removed.

1329
01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:34.680
What what what your what do you? Why you why

1330
01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:35.479
you don't buy.

1331
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:39.520
That that they were discolored. I would assume that, especially

1332
01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:42.520
older grades gravestones, you have a lot of build up

1333
01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:46.760
of like dirt and then also kind of like algae.

1334
01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:50.520
So while they were discolored, I would assume it's not permanent.

1335
01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:52.359
I was. I would assume they're just taking off kind

1336
01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:54.359
of the old gross stuff.

1337
01:13:55.720 --> 01:13:57.760
I mean, that's still messing it up.

1338
01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:03.800
Yeah, I'm just yeah, all right, maybe I decided, oh sorry,

1339
01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:05.840
it's okay. Nothing.

1340
01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:09.239
Well, I decided to dig a little deeper because this

1341
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:11.479
kind of bothered me because that article is from the

1342
01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:15.199
nineteenth of this month. So yesterday I found an article

1343
01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:18.319
at the New York Times that is that seems to

1344
01:14:18.359 --> 01:14:22.239
be digging a little deeper about this, and it was

1345
01:14:22.279 --> 01:14:26.279
published three hours ago. Okay, so from the New York Times,

1346
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:28.680
the headline why did QR codes appear on about one

1347
01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:32.920
thousand graves in Munich? In a wooded air cemetery in Munich,

1348
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:35.159
white sticker with a puzzling QR code appeared on a

1349
01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:37.760
gravestone late last year. Then over the next few weeks,

1350
01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:40.439
more and more stickers mysteriously appeared, until more than one

1351
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:44.279
thousand graves were marked like goods in a supermarket. It's

1352
01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:47.800
really strange. BERNARDA. Howeroff, who oversees the management of the

1353
01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:50.279
city cemetery, said in an interview. We thought what could

1354
01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:52.960
be the sense of this kind of sticker. Each white

1355
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.680
stick rectangular sticker measuring about one by two inches, bore

1356
01:14:55.720 --> 01:14:58.600
a black QR code, a last name, and a combination

1357
01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:01.399
of letters and numbers. According to the images published by

1358
01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:05.560
the German press. Cemeteries in Munich allow QR codes as

1359
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:10.800
memorials on headstones, okay, and for more than a decade,

1360
01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:13.319
people whose loved ones are buried in the cemeteries around

1361
01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:16.920
the world have uploaded photographs and other digital keepsakes to

1362
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:20.640
create online memorials that can be viewed via QR, but

1363
01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:24.439
those are usually etched into the gravestone or carved as

1364
01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:27.079
a metal plate to form a deliberate part of the

1365
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:28.479
memorial to the deceased.

1366
01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:30.319
You I've seen those before.

1367
01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:35.159
The recent appearances in Munich also raised eyebrows because in

1368
01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:39.079
two thousand and four, stickers appeared in a Jewish cemetery

1369
01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:42.640
in Bachem, a city in western Germany. Those turned out

1370
01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:46.520
to commemorate Rudolph Hess, a senior Nazi leader who served

1371
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:49.720
as Hitler's deputy. The stickers appeared to be linked to

1372
01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:53.279
a far right demonstration in the town of Windsidel in

1373
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:58.399
southeastern Germany, according to the World Jewish Congress. In this instance,

1374
01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:01.760
though the graves were not linked by religion, ethnicity, or

1375
01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:06.439
any other discernible personal characteristic of the deceased. City workers

1376
01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:08.880
first came across the QR codes in December, and scanning

1377
01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:10.840
them revealed only the name of the deceased and the

1378
01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:14.640
graves location, essentially repeating the information on the sticker but

1379
01:16:14.760 --> 01:16:20.520
providing no other useful information. Right the stickers popped up

1380
01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:23.920
in the Walder and the in waldfried Hoff cemetery of

1381
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:28.079
wooden space with some sixty thousand graves, and in nearby

1382
01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:32.880
smaller senlinger and solid cemeteries. They seem to be posted randomly,

1383
01:16:32.960 --> 01:16:36.079
he said, and old on old and new graves, on

1384
01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:42.159
carved tombstones and wooden crosses. Bewildered municipal workers initially recorded

1385
01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:44.760
the sightings as they tried to figure out the source

1386
01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:47.640
of the stickers. They were also working at a steep

1387
01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:50.880
price to remove them. Mister Haueroff said, anywhere from one

1388
01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:53.840
hundred to five hundred euros or one hundred and four

1389
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:56.560
to five and twenty three dollars per sticker to strip

1390
01:16:56.600 --> 01:17:00.760
the adhesive without damaging the graves, a total potential cost

1391
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.439
of roughly half a million euros.

1392
01:17:04.039 --> 01:17:05.720
I want, I want that money. I want to be

1393
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:06.479
in charge.

1394
01:17:06.199 --> 01:17:11.159
Of that jeez. So this week the municipality turned to

1395
01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:15.079
the police to investigate this as criminal property damage. They

1396
01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:17.840
quickly found that a local business that had that had

1397
01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:21.279
been contacted to clean and maintain certain graves was wait what?

1398
01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:25.199
They quickly found that a local business that had been

1399
01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:29.000
contracted to clean and maintain certain graves was behind the

1400
01:17:29.079 --> 01:17:29.840
QR code.

1401
01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:30.640
I understand.

1402
01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:33.279
I just wanted to make sure I understood that that's.

1403
01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:35.640
Insane and I understand. Yeah. Yeah.

1404
01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:38.800
The police said on that on Thursday, the relatives of

1405
01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:41.039
the deceased whose graves were marked with them would be

1406
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:44.199
notified during the inquiry, and investigating officers said an email.

1407
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:46.960
The police. Police would not name the company or share

1408
01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:50.279
details about how they found the perpetrators, but German news

1409
01:17:50.279 --> 01:17:53.399
media identified a gardening company as being responsible.

1410
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:56.039
So much sense.

1411
01:17:56.600 --> 01:18:00.680
The local newspaper cited Alfred Zenker, a senior manager that company,

1412
01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:03.479
as saying that the stickers were simply away for employees

1413
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.800
to keep track of which headstones they had maintained.

1414
01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:10.199
Mm hmm yeah, yeah.

1415
01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:11.960
We are a large company, he told the newspaper. Everything

1416
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:15.199
has to happen in an orderly manner. The police declined

1417
01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:18.479
to comment further, citing the continuing investigation. Sorry, I just

1418
01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:20.920
needed more because that first article had so little to it.

1419
01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:23.760
Yeah no, and that's really helpful though, because now I

1420
01:18:23.800 --> 01:18:27.079
totally understand and that it was absolutely one of those

1421
01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:30.239
those printers, like the Zebra printers, because of the way

1422
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:32.279
it was like had a QR code, then it has

1423
01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:34.039
the last name, then it has like a bunch of

1424
01:18:34.079 --> 01:18:40.399
like numbers and letters and stuff perfect for that. But yeah,

1425
01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:43.319
so I get it. I mean, you probably can't do that.

1426
01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:44.600
You probably need to ask.

1427
01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:49.199
It's really freaking stupid. Yeah, like you're you're not supposed

1428
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:53.279
to do anything to a gravestone other than like clean

1429
01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:56.960
it or you know, like you like, what the hell,

1430
01:18:57.039 --> 01:19:00.000
Like that's just so beyond the pale.

1431
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:04.000
But I totally understand someone thinking we gotta we gotta

1432
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:05.840
come up with a way to know what areas have

1433
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:07.880
been cleaned, so we'll just have them scan it on

1434
01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:09.239
their phones and then we'll know.

1435
01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:13.439
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean I didn't think it

1436
01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:15.800
was anything nefarious, but it was just really weird because

1437
01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:20.680
I would have expected something like intentional, like I said,

1438
01:19:20.720 --> 01:19:23.640
like promoting a band or some crap. I'd be like, yeah, yeah,

1439
01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:26.000
people do stupid stuff like that, but for it to

1440
01:19:26.079 --> 01:19:28.520
be like it just sounded so official, which made me

1441
01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:32.760
even more creeped out, Like, yeah, who's this dumb turns

1442
01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:34.680
out a gardening company.

1443
01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:35.920
Yeah.

1444
01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:39.199
So man, they're gonna pay a lot of damages, and that.

1445
01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:41.199
Person who decided that that was a good idea is

1446
01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:42.079
getting fired.

1447
01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:46.479
Maybe it's Germany. They're not doing so good. So we're

1448
01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:49.359
gonna take a quick break and we'll be back. We're

1449
01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:55.000
going to dive into the lost cosmonauts conspiracy theory right

1450
01:19:55.079 --> 01:20:12.520
after this. You know, Michelle in Soviet Russia Space explores you.

1451
01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:21.359
That's yeah, what the country. So I found this article

1452
01:20:22.720 --> 01:20:30.960
about supposed Soviet space kind of conspiracies, myths, urban legends,

1453
01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:34.600
whatever you want to call it. And I love diving

1454
01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:38.279
into Cold War era mythology because things were so tense

1455
01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:42.279
and mysterious and secretive back then. Yeah, and also because

1456
01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:45.479
the Soviets did all kinds of weird things because they

1457
01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:49.520
were just weird. Yeah, you know, I mean we did

1458
01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:51.840
weird things in America too. It's just like, but they

1459
01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:54.960
were very much you know, like hold my Schlitz or whatever,

1460
01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:57.439
you know, like they wanted to do even weirder stuff.

1461
01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:01.439
So I found this article. It's from a website called

1462
01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:04.640
Let's Get off This Rock Already dot com. So I'm

1463
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:10.359
guessing that they mostly cover space related things.

1464
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:11.279
Maybe, or they want to die. I'm not really sure.

1465
01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:16.039
I mean, they're all good. Yeah, they're all good. So

1466
01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:19.560
the article starts with talking about the first space launch

1467
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:23.279
from the Soviet Union. Yuri Gagarin is recognized as the

1468
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:26.479
first human to leave Earth, having undertaken a world historic

1469
01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:30.760
single orbit spaceflight on April twelfth, nineteen sixty one. This

1470
01:21:30.880 --> 01:21:34.239
was the culmination of numerous unmanned test launches, which, after

1471
01:21:34.279 --> 01:21:37.720
several failures and the deaths of considerable numbers of dogs,

1472
01:21:38.079 --> 01:21:42.600
had ironed out flaws in the one man VOS spacecraft. Yeah,

1473
01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:45.840
the Soviets sent dogs into space. That was their thing.

1474
01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:49.000
I know. It just makes me sad because the dogs

1475
01:21:49.039 --> 01:21:51.199
can't consent. Yeah.

1476
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:53.800
You, I don't know if you ever met a Golden retriever.

1477
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:55.520
I think they want to go to space. They're like,

1478
01:21:55.560 --> 01:21:56.439
that'd be so cool.

1479
01:21:57.279 --> 01:21:58.880
Then they're all alone, though.

1480
01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:01.920
No, that's not cool. No, No, Actually, I don't want

1481
01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:03.479
to get really sad by thinking about the dogs in

1482
01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:03.960
the space grif.

1483
01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:06.199
Yeah, you really don't want to think about it, No,

1484
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:06.880
I really don't.

1485
01:22:07.039 --> 01:22:09.319
Yeah, no, because then I'll think about the gulags and

1486
01:22:09.359 --> 01:22:13.119
then I'll just be I'll just literally be Pinochette. Only

1487
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:16.399
once the dog started reliably coming back in one piece?

1488
01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:19.119
Did Soviet leadership feel ready to risk the life of

1489
01:22:19.119 --> 01:22:24.039
a pilot? But what if they actually jumped the gun?

1490
01:22:25.079 --> 01:22:28.359
What if there was someone else before a Gagarin, an

1491
01:22:28.439 --> 01:22:34.079
unfortunate soul who went up there and never came back alive? Wow?

1492
01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:39.279
What if there was amid the immense secrecy of the

1493
01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:43.600
Soviet space program, which way waited to announce Gagarin's flight

1494
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:46.880
until after he was safely in orbit. That's a really

1495
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:50.680
good point. It wasn't out of the question, and rumors

1496
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:56.479
began circulating even back then. That's a really good point.

1497
01:22:56.520 --> 01:22:59.479
They would very likely hide failures that, especially once that

1498
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:01.079
resulted in cosmonaut's deaths.

1499
01:23:01.279 --> 01:23:05.399
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, man, I'm getting goosebumps.

1500
01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:09.359
Actually, I've never heard of this before. In nineteen fifty nine,

1501
01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:12.960
claims surfaced in the West that Russians had been unsuccessfully

1502
01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:18.960
sending cosmonauts aboard suborbital rockets. According to an unnamed intelligence

1503
01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:23.560
source in Czechoslovakia, repeated second and third hand in various

1504
01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:27.920
newspapers such as The Gadsden Times, there were four launches

1505
01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:31.159
from a complex near the Iranian border, all of which failed.

1506
01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:37.680
When the astronauts vanished into space. Uh oh ooh, no,

1507
01:23:37.840 --> 01:23:41.600
less a personality than rocket. Theorist Herman Oberth gave voice

1508
01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:45.920
to the rumors, but the alleged Czechoslovakian source was never identified,

1509
01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:49.199
nor did any further information come to light over the

1510
01:23:49.239 --> 01:23:53.479
following decades. We do know, however, that after World War Two,

1511
01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:58.000
the Soviets were considering very similar missions using the German

1512
01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:02.079
V two missile, which might have seen a Russian short

1513
01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:06.479
hop into space as early as nineteen forty eight. Hmm,

1514
01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:09.640
that's interesting. Point two.

1515
01:24:10.159 --> 01:24:11.439
Yeah.

1516
01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:15.520
The next claim appeared in nineteen sixty when Robert Heinland.

1517
01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:19.640
Everything comes back to Robert Heinland. It's Rachel's favorite author.

1518
01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:22.800
My buddy Heaton was talking about him a ton. He

1519
01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:26.000
wrote many many books, including Starship Troopers.

1520
01:24:26.359 --> 01:24:26.920
Oh okay.

1521
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:31.159
When Hyland was traveling through the USSR on May fifteenth

1522
01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:36.279
in Vilnius Red Army or in Vilnius Red Army, cadets

1523
01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:39.479
told him that their country had just launched a human

1524
01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:42.880
into space, and indeed that day had seen the launch

1525
01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:48.039
of Corbelsputnik one, the first Vostok test flights, which failed

1526
01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:51.479
to return to Earth after a retro rocket malfunction. Said

1527
01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:55.960
it sent it into higher orbit. Dan Heinland suspected the

1528
01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:00.920
officially unnamed mission had in fact carried a plot pilot aboard.

1529
01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:04.000
The poor soul would have died only a few days

1530
01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:07.880
after launch, when his life support inevitably ran out. He

1531
01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:10.640
would have remained up there until his ship naturally de

1532
01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:12.720
orbited in nineteen sixty two.

1533
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:14.560
What's sad?

1534
01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:17.119
I don't know. This is kind of far fetched. I mean,

1535
01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:19.399
when would the Soviet Union have ever put somebody in

1536
01:25:19.439 --> 01:25:22.039
a position where they would literally die?

1537
01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:25.640
Yeah, they're good. I don't think they would do anything

1538
01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:25.960
like that.

1539
01:25:26.680 --> 01:25:29.800
Yeah, I mean, I mean like they I mean, and yeah,

1540
01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:31.560
maybe they'd choot you, but they'd never just put you

1541
01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:34.800
in a situation where you definitely die without any more interference,

1542
01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:39.039
not at all, not in like Siberia or anywhere. They

1543
01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:39.840
would never do that.

1544
01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:41.319
No, they're they're good.

1545
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:47.199
They're yeah, they do fine. Yeah, so this next one.

1546
01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:51.760
Vladimir Ilyushin was one of the Soviet Union's most renowned

1547
01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:54.439
test pilots. He was so skilled, in fact, that he

1548
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:58.079
once seized up a plane's computer by flying too precisely.

1549
01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:01.239
Oh wow, good for him, that's epic.

1550
01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:05.039
Such was his reputation that the military entrusted him with

1551
01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:09.159
the maiden flights of an entire generation of aircraft, from

1552
01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:13.520
interceptors to tactical bombers, and perhaps that of the Vostok

1553
01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:18.199
space capsule, beating Yuri Gagarin by a mere five days.

1554
01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:23.159
This conspiracy theory originated with an article in the British

1555
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:28.000
communist newspaper The Daily Worker, published April tenth, nineteen sixty one.

1556
01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:32.920
Its author, Dennis Ogden, claimed that Illusian had flown into

1557
01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:37.199
orbit on April seventh, sustaining serious injuries in the process,

1558
01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:41.520
injuries which were covered up by an official announcement that

1559
01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:46.760
he had been in a car crash. Ooo, this is

1560
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:47.840
getting fun.

1561
01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:50.079
But also he could have been in a car crash.

1562
01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:56.880
But interesting that they reported this and then the car

1563
01:26:56.920 --> 01:26:58.239
crash got reported later.

1564
01:26:58.880 --> 01:26:59.800
True.

1565
01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:02.159
That's the part that freaks me out is I was

1566
01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:04.359
just thinking, like, if he was hurting a launch, how

1567
01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:07.760
would they explain it? And they had an immediate explanation,

1568
01:27:07.800 --> 01:27:11.159
which makes me even more worried that they may have

1569
01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:11.760
been lying.

1570
01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:15.079
I think if I got hurt in flying in the

1571
01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:18.640
space a lot, I don't want a different story than

1572
01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:20.520
in a car crash, I don't.

1573
01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:23.279
I mean, I was honestly just impressed he didn't just die.

1574
01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:25.159
Mm yeah, yeah, I mean too.

1575
01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:27.880
Because you know, the classic Russian thing would be like,

1576
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:30.479
oh yeah, he uh he was taking a flight over

1577
01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:33.560
Siberia and just and just crash somewhere. We don't know where.

1578
01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:35.640
It's too big, you know, that's like this, that's like

1579
01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:38.000
the Russian thing to say. It's like, oh, he was

1580
01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:39.720
on a plane and we don't know what happened to it.

1581
01:27:39.760 --> 01:27:45.600
Too much land to cover. Wow. Other outlets soon picked

1582
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:48.760
up on this theme, triggering a small frenzy of speculation.

1583
01:27:49.359 --> 01:27:52.159
US News and World Report claimed that Gagarin had never

1584
01:27:52.239 --> 01:27:55.319
flown in space at all, being used only as a

1585
01:27:55.319 --> 01:28:00.720
public facing prop to cover for the wounded illusion. Hmmm hmmm,

1586
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:04.479
Oh so I guess that the conspiracy there is that

1587
01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:08.800
Gagarin didn't go up Ilusian did, but the landing was

1588
01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:11.439
violent and hurt him, right, and they wanted to cover

1589
01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:16.159
up that the latter half was botched. So they were like,

1590
01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:19.920
look at this fully intact guy, he's doing great. Weren't

1591
01:28:19.920 --> 01:28:22.840
you just in space? Yes, I was just in space.

1592
01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:27.159
Well you've heard the rumors. You've heard the rumors of

1593
01:28:27.159 --> 01:28:29.560
obviously of the moon landing being faked. I'm sure you've

1594
01:28:29.560 --> 01:28:33.680
heard the conspiracy theories about that, right, Yeah. One of

1595
01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:37.520
the what was it? Was it? One of the conspiracies

1596
01:28:37.600 --> 01:28:40.439
was that they had everything ready to fake the moon

1597
01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:45.680
landing just in case the astronauts died or didn't succeed.

1598
01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:47.319
Or or no.

1599
01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:49.439
No, I think the conspiracy was that they had faked

1600
01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:54.399
it with the asternasts just in case, okay, they couldn't

1601
01:28:54.479 --> 01:28:56.760
make it to the Moon for some reason, so that

1602
01:28:56.800 --> 01:28:58.760
they could depict them on the Moon, even if they

1603
01:28:58.840 --> 01:29:01.520
ended up just going around, which they'd done before already.

1604
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:04.359
There are a bunch of myths like that.

1605
01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:07.039
I mean, I could see that though, being like, hey,

1606
01:29:07.159 --> 01:29:10.640
we should probably just just in case y'all die or something.

1607
01:29:10.399 --> 01:29:13.279
Yeah, just in case, because we got to beat those kamis.

1608
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:14.840
Yeah.

1609
01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:19.960
A nineteen ninety nine documentary, The Cosmonaut Cover Up, articulated

1610
01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:23.000
what came to be the standard version of Illutian's claim

1611
01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:26.439
of the Illusian claims. The mission was said to have

1612
01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:29.600
launched on April seventh, as The Daily Worker originally reported.

1613
01:29:30.079 --> 01:29:34.279
Ilusian took off without incident and orbited the Earth three times,

1614
01:29:34.319 --> 01:29:37.119
only to lose contact with ground control on the third pass,

1615
01:29:37.439 --> 01:29:40.640
and after an emergency firing of retro rockets, he made

1616
01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:45.319
a hard landing thousands of kilometers off course within Chinese

1617
01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:51.359
territory shared communist ideology, notwithstanding the Soviet Union in Red

1618
01:29:51.479 --> 01:29:55.640
China were not friends at the time. Elusian was held

1619
01:29:55.680 --> 01:29:59.439
captive for more than a year until the Soviets secretly

1620
01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:04.359
Negotia his release. Meanwhile, Gagarin had become the face of

1621
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:08.439
the Soviet space program, falsely trumpeted as a pioneer to

1622
01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:12.600
spare his country the humiliation of a rocky for spaceflight.

1623
01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:16.479
Gagarin's death in and oh boy, it gets it gets

1624
01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:20.000
more Soviet Union the more you read Gagarin's death in

1625
01:30:20.119 --> 01:30:23.520
nineteen sixty eight during a training accident was the part

1626
01:30:23.680 --> 01:30:25.960
was just part of the cover up, of course. He

1627
01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:30.159
died while working for the government in like an innocuous,

1628
01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:31.680
unbear embarrassing thing.

1629
01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:33.920
Yeah, oh, the training.

1630
01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:36.800
Accident killed him. Oh man, this is getting hefty. Man.

1631
01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:39.840
And I'm not a big conspiracy theory person, but this

1632
01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:42.840
is getting deep. And we're going to get even deeper

1633
01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:54.800
right after this. Now we're back and in Soviet Russia.

1634
01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:59.720
Conspiracy theories you all right? That didn't work as well

1635
01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:05.319
of time, despite its persistence. The Illusion theory has has

1636
01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:10.000
been met with considerable skepticism. Illusion himself, who died in

1637
01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:15.800
twenty ten, steadfastly denied ever having gone to space. The

1638
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:19.760
actual evidence is thin on the ground, hearsay mostly, and

1639
01:31:19.800 --> 01:31:22.600
as space historian Mark Wade has pointed out, it's hard

1640
01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:26.039
to explain a secret mission when the period around Gagarin's

1641
01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:29.520
flight is so well documented, an issue with most lost

1642
01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:34.159
cosmonaut stories, as we'll discuss at the end. To me,

1643
01:31:34.439 --> 01:31:37.720
it seems more than a little unlikely. Then again, there's

1644
01:31:37.800 --> 01:31:42.399
nothing technically implausible about the theory. The Soviets were fully

1645
01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:46.199
capable of launching a cosmonaut shortly before Gagarin, and a

1646
01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:48.800
crash landing in a hostile country would have been reason

1647
01:31:48.920 --> 01:31:51.920
enough to keep secret, to keep it secret. As they say,

1648
01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:56.399
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. That's kind

1649
01:31:56.399 --> 01:32:00.399
of kind of true, kind of not. I will say, like,

1650
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:02.960
I would like to know, do we know where Illusion

1651
01:32:03.239 --> 01:32:06.119
was for the years that he would have supposedly been,

1652
01:32:06.199 --> 01:32:08.960
Like was it like was there a blackout of him?

1653
01:32:09.079 --> 01:32:12.239
But also who knows if those records are even kept

1654
01:32:12.640 --> 01:32:15.000
anywhere because of the Soviet Union. But the other thing

1655
01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:16.640
that's interesting is the first thought I had because I

1656
01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:19.199
was starting to try to have my tinfoil hat on

1657
01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:22.920
as I was like, well, he was up until twenty ten.

1658
01:32:23.039 --> 01:32:26.119
He was steadfast that he never went to space and

1659
01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:28.239
the Soviet Union collapsed, and I was like, yeah, if

1660
01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:30.800
you believe the KGB ever went away, which a lot

1661
01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:34.560
of people don't exactly, I don't even know if that's

1662
01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:38.600
like a full blown conspiracy theory, because like, like I

1663
01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:43.159
believe Putin was a KGB agent, Like a lot of

1664
01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:48.840
former KGB are now like leading Russia, right, so but there, yeah,

1665
01:32:48.840 --> 01:32:50.159
there are definitely a lot of people who are kind

1666
01:32:50.159 --> 01:32:52.560
of like, yeah, the KGB never really went away, it

1667
01:32:52.680 --> 01:32:58.319
just kind of changed because yeah, oh, good old KGB.

1668
01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:06.960
Then there's the case of Judica of the Judica Gordiglia brothers.

1669
01:33:07.640 --> 01:33:11.119
Based in a former German bunker outside Turin, Italy, and

1670
01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:14.760
equipped with an improvised radio set, they claimed to have

1671
01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:19.119
intercepted and recorded signals from a variety of early space

1672
01:33:19.159 --> 01:33:19.960
age craft.

1673
01:33:20.520 --> 01:33:20.840
Hmmm.

1674
01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:27.840
Ominously, some of them appeared to be human voices pleading

1675
01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:28.479
for help.

1676
01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:33.479
Oh shit, okay, I have goosebumps.

1677
01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:38.439
That is terrifying. So these brothers in a bunker in Turin,

1678
01:33:38.479 --> 01:33:42.640
Italy with a radio set, claimed they intercepted signals from

1679
01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:46.600
space of human voices pleading for help.

1680
01:33:47.479 --> 01:33:51.640
Yes, were they sure that it was pleading for help?

1681
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:54.640
And it wasn't like paradolia and they just hearing things

1682
01:33:54.680 --> 01:33:55.399
in static.

1683
01:33:56.079 --> 01:34:01.199
It might be just paradolia. But I'm still booped. I'm very,

1684
01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:06.479
very spooped. Mere weeks before Vostok I they picked up

1685
01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:10.760
a transmission from a female cosmonaut. Oh crap, they have

1686
01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:12.800
a quote like it says, I can see a flame

1687
01:34:13.159 --> 01:34:16.359
thirty two thirty two? Am I going to crash? Yes? Yes,

1688
01:34:16.399 --> 01:34:19.159
I feel hot. I am listening. I feel hot. I

1689
01:34:19.199 --> 01:34:24.159
will re enter. I am hot. Oh god, I'm so

1690
01:34:24.279 --> 01:34:28.039
creeped out now. I literally feel like when I was

1691
01:34:28.039 --> 01:34:30.119
like fourteen years old reading Snopes in the middle of

1692
01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:34.000
the night in my bedroom, all alone, and then the

1693
01:34:34.039 --> 01:34:38.520
signal ended. Was this a real human being alone and

1694
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:43.199
terrified beyond Earth's atmosphere? Did she perish as her ship

1695
01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:47.279
broke up on re entry? According to the paranormal magazine

1696
01:34:47.319 --> 01:34:52.079
fourteen Times, the brothers picked up eight secret cosmonauts between

1697
01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:57.239
May nineteen sixty and November nineteen sixty four. Some seem

1698
01:34:57.319 --> 01:35:00.520
to vanish into deep space, drifting out of Earth orbit

1699
01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:04.560
into the Great Beyond, while others went dark during atmospheric

1700
01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:09.079
entry or suffocated after the failure of their life support.

1701
01:35:09.960 --> 01:35:12.479
It was as if there was a whole shadow space

1702
01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:17.199
program sending cosmonauts to their deaths between the successful flights

1703
01:35:17.239 --> 01:35:20.039
that Soviets had been so triumphantly hailing.

1704
01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:21.000
M M.

1705
01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:25.279
That's a really good point too. Their claim was that

1706
01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:27.880
they were picking these things up, like in between the

1707
01:35:27.960 --> 01:35:32.079
sporadic successful launch. They're suggesting that there were tons of

1708
01:35:32.119 --> 01:35:33.800
horrible failures.

1709
01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:37.760
Which wouldn't have been like weird, because we were just

1710
01:35:37.840 --> 01:35:40.159
learning how to go into space. So I'm not I

1711
01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:42.439
wouldn't be surprised if they had tons of failures.

1712
01:35:43.119 --> 01:35:46.319
Yeah. No, In fact, it's bizarre how few failures they reported.

1713
01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:50.920
But then again, Soviet Union, you know, paragon of truth,

1714
01:35:51.600 --> 01:35:58.199
of course, Soviet postage stamp of Oh, it's a picture

1715
01:35:58.199 --> 01:36:00.960
of a Soviet postage stamp of Valentina at Tereshkova, the

1716
01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:03.439
first woman in space. But then it says or was

1717
01:36:03.479 --> 01:36:04.600
she done?

1718
01:36:04.680 --> 01:36:05.439
Don done?

1719
01:36:06.039 --> 01:36:10.439
The Judica Cordiglia Brothers recordings have received considerable criticism over

1720
01:36:10.439 --> 01:36:13.479
the years, and not without good reason. None of the

1721
01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:19.359
alleged cosmonauts used formal radio protocols. Strange for a group

1722
01:36:19.399 --> 01:36:22.720
that we know was drawn from elite pilots representing the

1723
01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:27.800
Soviet Union's brightest and most disciplined aviators. And oh and

1724
01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:32.039
some of them spoken accent accented form of Russian, not

1725
01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:33.399
that of a native speaker.

1726
01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:34.960
Huh.

1727
01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:40.840
Well, that the Soviet Union had many, many territories with

1728
01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:43.960
many different dialects and accents of Russian, though.

1729
01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:49.520
I mean that's true. And also like for like because yeah,

1730
01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:53.079
because they're all real big, it's real big, and I think, yeah,

1731
01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:53.479
that's it.

1732
01:36:54.279 --> 01:37:01.279
Well, if I'm remembering correctly, Stalin himself was Georgian, and

1733
01:37:01.359 --> 01:37:05.560
he was constantly trying to hide his accent because Georgia

1734
01:37:05.720 --> 01:37:09.720
at the time was considered like a very thugish, like

1735
01:37:09.840 --> 01:37:13.000
a place where like low class people are from ironically

1736
01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:16.399
in Communis where supposed to be only one class. The

1737
01:37:16.439 --> 01:37:18.880
other irony was he was literally a thug, Like he

1738
01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:21.199
was a Georgian thug, absolutely, and he didn't want people

1739
01:37:21.199 --> 01:37:23.880
to see him that way, but he was like from

1740
01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:26.960
Georgia and he was a thug. But anyway, but that

1741
01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:28.439
just made me think of it because I'd read about

1742
01:37:28.439 --> 01:37:33.239
that about Stalin, right, and there were many dialects, many

1743
01:37:33.399 --> 01:37:39.359
dialects within the Soviet Union, So I don't know, and it.

1744
01:37:39.359 --> 01:37:43.600
Is weird that that they weren't you know, talking, you know,

1745
01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:47.239
in a way that sounded formal enough.

1746
01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:51.760
Right, yeah, I mean, but if I want to, if

1747
01:37:51.800 --> 01:37:54.520
I want to put my conspiracy hat on again, made

1748
01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:59.720
of tinfoil, of course, what if they were using prisoners

1749
01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:04.640
of war or what if they were using captured pilots

1750
01:38:04.680 --> 01:38:11.079
from other nations or defectors or whatever it may be.

1751
01:38:11.319 --> 01:38:14.159
What if they were making people do it by force,

1752
01:38:15.479 --> 01:38:19.000
saying like if you land, will let you live, like

1753
01:38:19.079 --> 01:38:21.560
we'll let you go, or we'll do whatever, or we

1754
01:38:21.600 --> 01:38:24.079
won't kill your family or what because the Soviets had

1755
01:38:24.079 --> 01:38:27.119
all kinds of insane stuff going on, especially during this

1756
01:38:27.199 --> 01:38:31.840
era with yeah yeah, so what if they were not

1757
01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:35.960
professional cosmonauts, What if they were pilots from other places

1758
01:38:36.039 --> 01:38:38.760
or people that had been trained haphazardly just to test

1759
01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:42.439
equipment and told like, if you survive, you can leave.

1760
01:38:43.359 --> 01:38:46.039
That could explain why they didn't follow proper protocol. It

1761
01:38:46.079 --> 01:38:49.039
could explain why they had accents in their Russian.

1762
01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:54.279
Yeah yeah, or can I'll just be bullshit.

1763
01:38:54.720 --> 01:38:59.439
Or it could be bullshit if the signals weren't genuine.

1764
01:38:59.439 --> 01:39:05.079
That that is the obvious explanation. But Giovanna Giovanni Judica Gordiglia,

1765
01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:09.159
the surviving brother, stands by his story over sixty years later,

1766
01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:12.119
and the debate has not been resolved one way or

1767
01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:16.680
the other. Oh man. And then there's a link to

1768
01:39:16.720 --> 01:39:22.359
the original recordings. Wow, yeah they exist. Oh my god.

1769
01:39:22.399 --> 01:39:26.920
The website looks like it was made on GeoCities. Ah yeah,

1770
01:39:26.960 --> 01:39:30.720
I remember so. I as much as I'd like to

1771
01:39:30.720 --> 01:39:33.159
play the recordings, that's not really what we're all about.

1772
01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:38.800
So I'm gonna let that be for now. We've discussed

1773
01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:42.520
lurid tales from the dawn of space travel, failed suborbital hops,

1774
01:39:42.680 --> 01:39:46.279
Bostock Mission's gone horribly wrong. But the flurry of lost

1775
01:39:46.359 --> 01:39:50.600
cosmonaut speculation does not end here there. If Earth's orbit

1776
01:39:50.680 --> 01:39:57.520
harbors its secrets, so too might the Moon, the nearest

1777
01:39:57.560 --> 01:40:00.039
world to our own and the finish line of the

1778
01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:03.560
space race. Even if the Soviets later insisted that they

1779
01:40:03.640 --> 01:40:05.640
never aimed for it, I remember that they were. We

1780
01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:09.399
didn't even care about the Moon once the Americans landed there.

1781
01:40:10.079 --> 01:40:14.000
The Soviet lunar program was itself covered up by authorities.

1782
01:40:14.479 --> 01:40:17.800
Vehicles such as the thundering N one Booster and the

1783
01:40:17.840 --> 01:40:21.680
insectoid LK moon Lander only came to light in the

1784
01:40:21.760 --> 01:40:25.439
late nineteen eighties after two decades of airtight secrecy. What

1785
01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:29.680
else could they have been hiding? I love them. For

1786
01:40:29.680 --> 01:40:31.600
two decades they were like, we didn't even think about

1787
01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:33.319
going to the moon. And then somebody was like, then,

1788
01:40:33.319 --> 01:40:36.079
why is there like a moonlander that you guys were building?

1789
01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:40.439
And they're like, uh wait, my last boss died. Yeah,

1790
01:40:40.479 --> 01:40:44.600
I can tell you about it. We're gonna take a

1791
01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:48.119
quick break and wrap up the details of this eerie

1792
01:40:48.239 --> 01:40:59.239
conspiracy right after this. While we were on break, I

1793
01:40:59.279 --> 01:41:01.840
did take a look get those recordings we talked about.

1794
01:41:01.840 --> 01:41:05.159
They're pretty rough to listen to. You can find them

1795
01:41:05.399 --> 01:41:08.520
with a really easy Google search of like lost cosmonaut sounds,

1796
01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:13.239
but it's just muffled screaming and airplane sounds. But the

1797
01:41:13.279 --> 01:41:15.479
thing that creeped me out was it sounded very similar

1798
01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:18.159
to the quality of the sounds they got from actual

1799
01:41:18.199 --> 01:41:21.720
Sputnik because they had a microphone in Sputnik, so they

1800
01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:23.960
could hear the dog's heart beating to confirm it was

1801
01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:31.680
a lot. Yeah, what Soviet Union man, what do you want?

1802
01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:35.039
You think that's bad? You see how they treated like

1803
01:41:35.399 --> 01:41:39.479
people from Serbia. None of them so about referring to

1804
01:41:39.520 --> 01:41:42.239
the Moon, to the race for the Moon. None of that, however,

1805
01:41:42.279 --> 01:41:46.119
has stopped speculation that the Soviets secretly landed humans on

1806
01:41:46.159 --> 01:41:48.880
the Moon, or at least launched them in that direction.

1807
01:41:49.640 --> 01:41:52.560
It's been said that the second unmanned test launch of

1808
01:41:52.600 --> 01:41:55.920
the N one was not unmanned at all. That's something

1809
01:41:55.960 --> 01:41:58.600
I would believe the Soviets would do. They would like

1810
01:41:58.720 --> 01:42:00.840
launch something like, oh it was unmans because it would

1811
01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:04.479
be seen as cruel to like everybody, and then in

1812
01:42:04.479 --> 01:42:06.560
reality it was like, oh, there were totally people on that. Yeah,

1813
01:42:06.600 --> 01:42:10.319
we just don't care. I believe that, Yeah, that the

1814
01:42:10.319 --> 01:42:12.399
second one man's was not unmanned at all. This flight,

1815
01:42:12.439 --> 01:42:17.800
which took place on July third, nineteen sixty nine. Nice, nice, sorry,

1816
01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:23.760
thank you geez, are you even listening? Harsh mean, was

1817
01:42:23.880 --> 01:42:27.239
actually a desperate attempt to beat the Americans to a moonshot,

1818
01:42:27.319 --> 01:42:30.800
with two ill fated cosmonauts climbing into the rocket and

1819
01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:34.399
hoping for the best. According to the story, these secret

1820
01:42:34.439 --> 01:42:38.119
moon travelers persisted in flames when their end one exploded

1821
01:42:38.159 --> 01:42:41.079
beneath them. It is well established, though, that the launch

1822
01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:45.319
escape the launch escape system for that test flight functioned perfectly,

1823
01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:49.000
delivering the capsule to a safe distance. If the Soviets

1824
01:42:49.039 --> 01:42:52.159
did take that opportunity for a last ditch moonshot, the

1825
01:42:52.239 --> 01:42:55.600
cosmonauts walked away from it in one piece. Presumably they

1826
01:42:55.640 --> 01:42:58.600
were then sworn to secrecy and the whole embarrassing episode

1827
01:42:58.840 --> 01:43:01.279
was swept under the rug. That's a really nice way

1828
01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:02.680
to say it, instead of that they would just shoot

1829
01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:04.319
them like immediately.

1830
01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:06.800
Oh, I was hoping that they would say sh and

1831
01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:08.880
then they just go home and live nice lives with

1832
01:43:08.920 --> 01:43:09.600
their families.

1833
01:43:10.159 --> 01:43:13.960
Yeah, oh, okay, that's I like that version more. Another

1834
01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:16.960
story comes from the Russians themselves.

1835
01:43:17.279 --> 01:43:18.439
Oh.

1836
01:43:18.520 --> 01:43:22.279
In the early nineteen seventies, rumors went around Moscow that

1837
01:43:22.359 --> 01:43:26.640
the lunocod rovers were not remotely piloted from Earth, as

1838
01:43:26.680 --> 01:43:31.239
the government claimed, but driven by very small KGB agents

1839
01:43:31.520 --> 01:43:36.399
who had been sent to the Moon on a suicide mission. Apparently,

1840
01:43:36.479 --> 01:43:39.720
the poor state of Soviet electronics left no other explanation.

1841
01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:44.359
This one is ridiculous. On the face of it. There

1842
01:43:44.439 --> 01:43:48.199
was no way a washtub sized lunocode could have supported

1843
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:51.119
a man for months on end. But to be fair,

1844
01:43:51.520 --> 01:43:57.640
one way moon missions have been proposed before. That's creepy. Yeah,

1845
01:43:57.640 --> 01:44:02.000
apparently there's a whole article about about a plan to

1846
01:44:02.039 --> 01:44:03.840
go to the Moon and not be able to come back.

1847
01:44:04.640 --> 01:44:07.199
They'd made discussions about that before.

1848
01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:10.159
But they get to live there, right, they don't have

1849
01:44:10.239 --> 01:44:10.920
to die.

1850
01:44:10.960 --> 01:44:15.199
I mean in theory, I mean they get to live there, yes, for.

1851
01:44:15.560 --> 01:44:18.359
A long time in any die of old age.

1852
01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:20.760
I mean a long time by Moon standards, could be

1853
01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:27.439
five or six minutes. And there are even weirder claims

1854
01:44:27.439 --> 01:44:30.720
out there, such as the assertation that Soviet cosmonaut Alexei

1855
01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:34.119
Lenov flew to the Moon in total secrecy aboard an

1856
01:44:34.159 --> 01:44:38.319
American spacecraft as part of a joint US Soviet Apollo

1857
01:44:38.359 --> 01:44:43.159
mission dispatched to investigate a crashed alien starship.

1858
01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:46.720
Whoa, so we came together.

1859
01:44:47.359 --> 01:44:53.159
Which hear me out, if we found like a spaceship,

1860
01:44:53.199 --> 01:44:55.920
like a giant alien spaceship during the height of the

1861
01:44:55.960 --> 01:45:00.800
Cold War, we would want to allow with each other

1862
01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:06.199
in case there was like an earth destroying force. Yeah, yeah,

1863
01:45:06.239 --> 01:45:08.920
I would actually buy that that. They would be like,

1864
01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:11.159
let's do it, let's look at this together. Because like

1865
01:45:11.520 --> 01:45:14.680
we have all of the nukes, both of us, Yeah,

1866
01:45:14.720 --> 01:45:17.880
and a part we will certainly fall. Yeah, I could

1867
01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:21.199
totally see that. Actually, I just watched the movie The Gorge,

1868
01:45:21.239 --> 01:45:23.720
which is basically about something kind of like that but

1869
01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:26.680
not exactly, where there's a tower on either side of

1870
01:45:26.680 --> 01:45:29.479
this mysterious gorge, and one is run by the Eastern

1871
01:45:29.560 --> 01:45:31.880
world and the other is run by the American side,

1872
01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:35.920
basically the Western world. It's really good. It's also a

1873
01:45:35.960 --> 01:45:37.640
love story, and I thought they did a nice job

1874
01:45:37.680 --> 01:45:41.840
with it. Anyway, it's on Apple, Apple plus Apple TV,

1875
01:45:41.920 --> 01:45:46.439
or with the Hell anyway. The Apollo twenty conspiracy theory

1876
01:45:46.439 --> 01:45:49.000
has been circling around the Internet since the early two thousands.

1877
01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:51.720
While the whole thing was exposed as a hoax, with

1878
01:45:51.800 --> 01:45:54.680
the supposed footage being no more than an elaborate model

1879
01:45:54.720 --> 01:45:57.840
work by a French prankster, you will still come across

1880
01:45:57.840 --> 01:45:59.960
people who swear by it. At least it's a good

1881
01:46:00.159 --> 01:46:03.399
deal more interesting than your typical moon landing conspiracy, which

1882
01:46:03.439 --> 01:46:06.720
insists we never went I'll happily take lost cosmonauts and

1883
01:46:06.800 --> 01:46:11.479
aliens over Kubrick filming astronauts on a sound stage. So

1884
01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:14.640
now we're diving into known to the cover ups. Though okay,

1885
01:46:15.560 --> 01:46:18.640
aside from all the series the theories just presented, some

1886
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of them rather far fetched. It is well established that

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the Soviet space program saw a number of cover ups

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and indeed the deaths of multiple cosmonauts. The first fatality

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occurred on the ground just three weeks before Gagarin's flight.

1890
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Valentine bondarec Renco, the youngest of the first cosmonaut class,

1891
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was performing a fifteen day experiment in a pressure chamber

1892
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when his clothing caught fire, ignited by an electric complate.

1893
01:46:45.840 --> 01:46:50.439
Oh no, high oxygen levels meant the flames spread quickly

1894
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and ravenously. He suffered severe burns over most of his body,

1895
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to the point where the attending doctors, seeking intact skin

1896
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where they could place an IV needle, had to use

1897
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the souls of his feet.

1898
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A poor guy, and.

1899
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He died in the hospital sixteen hours later.

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Oh my god. And it was probably just a horrible time.

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Well, I mean, it's compared to daily life in the

1902
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Soviet Union. Maybe it was just kind of a Wednesday.

1903
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Get some time off.

1904
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Bondarenko's death remained a tightly guarded secret for more than

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two decades until a liberalizing Soviet government finally admitted the truth.

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Bondarenko was not the only cosmonaut to be wiped from history.

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The vanishing cosmonaut is not a wait. Note the two.

1908
01:47:41.960 --> 01:47:43.800
There's a photo they're showing. Note the two in the

1909
01:47:43.800 --> 01:47:49.039
photo above the other man, Grigory and Nelyyobov Melyyobov who

1910
01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:51.720
got into a drunken brawl and disgraced the program. Naturally,

1911
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Soviets tried to save face by pretending he had never existed.

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According to a twenty eleven xpos and Wired, this was

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01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:01.439
a widespread practice in the Soviet space program, though investigations

1914
01:48:01.439 --> 01:48:04.119
into the missing cosmonauts have revealed that they were discharged

1915
01:48:04.119 --> 01:48:07.760
for mundane reasons such as bad behavior, medical problems, and

1916
01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:11.640
the light but the highest profile cosmonaut death in the

1917
01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:15.359
space race days was that of Vladimir Komarov, who flew

1918
01:48:15.399 --> 01:48:18.079
aboard the first mission of the Soyuz capsule on April

1919
01:48:18.119 --> 01:48:21.680
twenty third, nineteen sixty seven. Soyuz won was a disaster

1920
01:48:21.800 --> 01:48:24.479
even before it took off. Despite warnings that the spacecraft

1921
01:48:24.520 --> 01:48:27.520
wasn't ready, party leaders pressed ahead with a launch in

1922
01:48:27.640 --> 01:48:31.239
time for the anniversary of Lenin's birthday. Of course they did.

1923
01:48:32.840 --> 01:48:37.239
Of course they did. Lenin was dead. It was fine.

1924
01:48:37.359 --> 01:48:40.880
You could just just do it like most people's birthdays, like, oh,

1925
01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:42.800
my birthdays on a Wednesday, let's do it on Saturday.

1926
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They could have just done pulled one of those.

1927
01:48:44.399 --> 01:48:45.920
Yeah yeah.

1928
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Once in orbit, a solar panel failed to deploy, starving

1929
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the ship's systems of power, and problems with attitude control

1930
01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:57.279
meant that Kamarov couldn't even keep his craft pointed the

1931
01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:01.119
right direction. Eventually, mission controls grubbed the mission and told

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him to come home. Komarov might have landed safely if

1933
01:49:04.960 --> 01:49:10.159
not for another critical defect. The drogue parachute got tangled

1934
01:49:10.159 --> 01:49:13.680
with the main parachute, keeping it from deploying, and his

1935
01:49:13.800 --> 01:49:18.760
capsule slammed at full speed into the Russian step. Oh

1936
01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:23.239
fuck wow. And there's actually a memorial on the Moon

1937
01:49:23.720 --> 01:49:27.600
that Apollo fifteen left commemorating Komarov as one of the

1938
01:49:27.640 --> 01:49:31.640
people who died, alongside five other cosmonauts and eight astronauts

1939
01:49:31.680 --> 01:49:35.039
who gave their lives in pursuit of space travel. That

1940
01:49:35.119 --> 01:49:37.840
was nice of us to like include the Russians, even though,

1941
01:49:38.119 --> 01:49:40.560
like you know, they came in second place.

1942
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Also, it's nice, but no one can see it because

1943
01:49:43.640 --> 01:49:44.319
it's on the moon.

1944
01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:49.079
Ooh, you're one of those people. Okay, okay, yeah, there's

1945
01:49:49.119 --> 01:49:53.439
nobody on the moon. No, Komarov's flight was widely known

1946
01:49:53.479 --> 01:49:56.159
at the time. He was not, so he was not

1947
01:49:56.279 --> 01:49:59.439
a lost cosmonaut. Nevertheless, the Soviet government was not forthcoming

1948
01:49:59.439 --> 01:50:02.399
with details, and they released a polished statement for the

1949
01:50:02.399 --> 01:50:05.560
public public lauding him as a hero and burying him

1950
01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:08.239
in the Kremlin wall. They did everything they could to

1951
01:50:08.319 --> 01:50:11.960
hide the string of oversights, design flaws, and general negligence

1952
01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:14.680
that had led to his death. The prestige of the

1953
01:50:14.720 --> 01:50:18.119
Soviet Union could not be tarnished. One suspects that if

1954
01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:21.680
they'd had a chance at concealing the accident altogether, they

1955
01:50:21.800 --> 01:50:22.239
might have.

1956
01:50:23.159 --> 01:50:23.520
Sure.

1957
01:50:24.520 --> 01:50:26.319
So we're like really close to the end. So we're

1958
01:50:26.319 --> 01:50:27.840
gonna take a break and we'll wrap this up, and

1959
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then we're pretty much all set here a monthly spooky

1960
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right after this, all right, as we wrap up our

1961
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coverage of lost cosmonauts secrets in the Soviet space program.

1962
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Courtesy of Let's Get off This Rock Already dot com,

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01:50:48.359 --> 01:50:50.560
which I highly recommend you guys check out because the

1964
01:50:50.640 --> 01:50:54.000
quality of this article is excellent. The content here has

1965
01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:58.000
got to be great. Chill's already gonna check it out

1966
01:50:58.079 --> 01:51:00.680
so she can cry about the animals that into space

1967
01:51:00.920 --> 01:51:02.760
and then tell me about it so I can cry too.

1968
01:51:03.079 --> 01:51:05.239
I'm going to cry about everyone who went into space.

1969
01:51:05.960 --> 01:51:10.560
You haven't yet, I know. I'm sorry. Wow.

1970
01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:16.720
A few years back, on Ancient Aliens, the show presented

1971
01:51:16.760 --> 01:51:21.239
outlandish claims of alien incursions, lost continents, secret messages encoded

1972
01:51:21.239 --> 01:51:28.560
in history, and while pretty clearly nonsense, there was a

1973
01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:32.880
certain draw. However, there are many holes to be poked

1974
01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:35.199
in the theories. It was exciting to live in a world,

1975
01:51:36.119 --> 01:51:38.119
to live in a world where unknown other worldly forces

1976
01:51:38.199 --> 01:51:42.840
lurked behind mundane events. Lost cosmonaut stories scratch a similar itch,

1977
01:51:44.039 --> 01:51:45.960
and then the author says, I'm a sucker for mystery

1978
01:51:46.079 --> 01:51:49.119
in general, and tales of doomed Soviet space missions in particular.

1979
01:51:49.159 --> 01:51:51.880
It's such a fascinating image. A man trapped in the

1980
01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:55.159
confines of a Vostok capsule, hurtling away from Earth into

1981
01:51:55.159 --> 01:51:59.279
the unknowable gulfs beyond, stranded alone, his breaths growing ever

1982
01:51:59.399 --> 01:52:02.680
slower or fainter as his life support gives out, and

1983
01:52:02.720 --> 01:52:05.199
in the end he is buried in history, his very

1984
01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:08.560
existence denied by a secret of regime that can't afford

1985
01:52:08.640 --> 01:52:13.119
to lose face. Yeah, the problem is that the Iron

1986
01:52:13.119 --> 01:52:15.680
Curtain eventually came down, bringing with it the veil of

1987
01:52:15.720 --> 01:52:18.640
secrecy that had kept so many things hidden from the West.

1988
01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:21.600
We now have detailed knowledge of nearly everything that went

1989
01:52:21.640 --> 01:52:24.239
on in the Soviet space program, or so we think,

1990
01:52:26.279 --> 01:52:29.720
from design work to cosmonaut recruitment to the missions themselves,

1991
01:52:29.720 --> 01:52:32.439
and amidst all that data, there is a scarce There

1992
01:52:32.479 --> 01:52:36.279
is scarce room for phantom flights. If cosmonauts went into

1993
01:52:36.279 --> 01:52:40.199
space before Gagarin, who were they? Everyone seems pretty well

1994
01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:42.600
accounted for, even the men who were airbrushed out of

1995
01:52:42.600 --> 01:52:46.399
official photographs. Have you ever looked at the photographs of Stalin?

1996
01:52:46.720 --> 01:52:49.039
How Like? You've never looked at that? How Like? There

1997
01:52:49.039 --> 01:52:50.960
are pictures of him with like all of his leadership,

1998
01:52:51.039 --> 01:52:53.319
and then they show like they airbrushed each of them

1999
01:52:53.319 --> 01:52:56.159
out as he had them executed, until the picture is

2000
01:52:56.319 --> 01:53:01.319
just Stalin by himself. Wow, you've never seen that? No? Oh,

2001
01:53:01.359 --> 01:53:05.760
my gosh, Oh, I'll send it to you after we

2002
01:53:05.920 --> 01:53:09.000
Uh okay, Wow, I can't believe that you didn't know

2003
01:53:09.039 --> 01:53:12.880
about that. That's one of my favorite like weird Soviet things. Hm,

2004
01:53:15.039 --> 01:53:16.840
let's see even the men who were airbrushed out. The

2005
01:53:17.319 --> 01:53:20.960
Vladimir Ilusian story at least names a known individual who

2006
01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:24.039
could plausibly have been chosen to go into space. But

2007
01:53:24.079 --> 01:53:27.359
there's still no real evidence linking him to the cosmonaut program,

2008
01:53:27.439 --> 01:53:29.840
nor did the US or any other nations track his

2009
01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:34.159
alleged launch, and the moonshot allegations are dreadfully thin. As

2010
01:53:34.199 --> 01:53:38.319
tantalizing a prospect as they might present, my view is

2011
01:53:38.319 --> 01:53:40.760
that the actual facts of the human space travel line

2012
01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:43.439
up pretty well with the accepted narrative. Despite the stories

2013
01:53:43.600 --> 01:53:47.279
and in one case, radio recordings, space history has few

2014
01:53:47.319 --> 01:53:50.119
holes large enough to fit a lost cosmonaut. I could

2015
01:53:50.119 --> 01:53:52.159
be wrong, of course, the truth has a way of

2016
01:53:52.199 --> 01:53:55.239
being more surprising than expected, but the genre of lost

2017
01:53:55.239 --> 01:53:58.840
cosmonaut theories is by and large a mirage, best as

2018
01:53:58.920 --> 01:54:03.039
Creepy tells to tell around a campfire, or as fodder

2019
01:54:03.079 --> 01:54:05.279
for a Halloween themed blog post. Apparently this was his

2020
01:54:05.359 --> 01:54:09.159
Halloween special. Okay, yeah, so uh yeah, I want to

2021
01:54:09.199 --> 01:54:11.960
say again, let's get off this rock. Already. Dot com

2022
01:54:12.039 --> 01:54:14.600
seems to have some really awesome stuff. Apparently, they'll have

2023
01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:18.680
essays and short stories by the author, whose name I'm

2024
01:54:18.680 --> 01:54:27.119
having trouble finding right away. But where is his name? Does?

2025
01:54:27.640 --> 01:54:30.039
It just says my Maybe it is, Maybe he's not named.

2026
01:54:30.039 --> 01:54:33.399
It says my personal website for science fiction and stuff.

2027
01:54:33.960 --> 01:54:37.319
So I don't I don't know who this. Oh it's

2028
01:54:37.680 --> 01:54:44.960
Nick Quatramani. Nick Quatramani. Okay, So anyway, so before we

2029
01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:46.760
get out of here, Michelle, I wanted to tell you

2030
01:54:46.800 --> 01:54:50.520
about two pieces of horror media I saw in the theater. Okay,

2031
01:54:51.239 --> 01:54:53.960
I got to see the film Heart Eyes, which is

2032
01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:58.800
a Valentine's Day themed slasher film, and it was a

2033
01:54:58.840 --> 01:55:01.920
ton of fun. It. It actually had an upswing. It

2034
01:55:01.960 --> 01:55:04.720
looked like it was going to flop, but now it's

2035
01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:07.359
actually doing pretty well. I don't know if it's going

2036
01:55:07.399 --> 01:55:09.880
to be a full blown hit, but originally it made

2037
01:55:09.880 --> 01:55:12.840
ten million dollars against eighteen million dollar budget. Now it's

2038
01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:16.239
looking at like twenty five million. Valentine's Weekend was very

2039
01:55:16.319 --> 01:55:18.119
kind to the movie, and it deserves it because it

2040
01:55:18.159 --> 01:55:22.439
was super good good. Basically, a killer with heart Eyes

2041
01:55:22.479 --> 01:55:25.239
on its mask is killing couples on Valentine's Day for

2042
01:55:25.279 --> 01:55:28.800
the last three years, and the movie. You would like

2043
01:55:28.840 --> 01:55:32.520
it because it's literally a romantic comedy and a slasher

2044
01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:36.560
movie at the same time. Cool, like straight, like no joke,

2045
01:55:37.079 --> 01:55:40.000
like the guy and the girl have like really good chemistry,

2046
01:55:40.239 --> 01:55:44.760
their backstories really work. I adored the movie Hard Eyes,

2047
01:55:45.279 --> 01:55:47.279
totally worth seeing in the theater. And the other film,

2048
01:55:47.319 --> 01:55:51.600
which is also romantic in its way was the was Companion,

2049
01:55:51.720 --> 01:55:54.319
the film about a guy who jail breaks his sex robot,

2050
01:55:55.439 --> 01:55:59.399
and it sounds like a wacky scenario, but it's actually

2051
01:55:59.399 --> 01:56:03.920
a very good, serious horror film. It has a few

2052
01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:07.680
laughs here and there, but overall not a comedy and

2053
01:56:08.520 --> 01:56:13.479
had some really cool concepts about the ethics of robot

2054
01:56:13.560 --> 01:56:17.039
slaves that are designed to have a degree of emotion

2055
01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:23.359
in order to be better companions. Basically. So, I really

2056
01:56:23.439 --> 01:56:25.520
liked Companion. I saw it in the theater twice. I

2057
01:56:25.520 --> 01:56:29.279
saw Hard Eyes twice as well, so highly recommend both

2058
01:56:29.279 --> 01:56:31.680
of them. Who knows, Chell, maybe if you're bored while

2059
01:56:31.680 --> 01:56:33.479
I'm visiting you, I'll make you go see a movie.

2060
01:56:34.520 --> 01:56:36.840
Lord knows you don't go to the movies enough. I worry.

2061
01:56:37.840 --> 01:56:40.720
It's okay, okay, I'm okay.

2062
01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:42.800
Did you find anything worthwhile on Reddit?

2063
01:56:42.840 --> 01:56:45.199
Before we take off, So there's not a lot of

2064
01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:49.439
good things, but there were things that were okay. So

2065
01:56:49.640 --> 01:56:53.039
I'll just this one is probably not supernatural, but it

2066
01:56:53.079 --> 01:56:56.359
came from the glitch and the matrix, so read it anyway.

2067
01:56:57.000 --> 01:57:01.520
So if I'm remembering this correctly, there's this person the

2068
01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:08.159
poster is watching like house sitting, I think, and maybe

2069
01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:10.560
watching a dog for somebody, but like staying at their

2070
01:57:10.600 --> 01:57:15.800
house and stuff. And she's just being normal and stuff.

2071
01:57:15.840 --> 01:57:18.600
And then she like goes and like cleaning and stuff.

2072
01:57:18.760 --> 01:57:21.079
She goes into a room and she finds a glass

2073
01:57:21.199 --> 01:57:24.159
of water, like a mostly empty glass of water, like

2074
01:57:24.239 --> 01:57:27.600
on the dining room table or something, and she's like,

2075
01:57:27.640 --> 01:57:31.119
I've been here for three days. I didn't drink that water.

2076
01:57:31.319 --> 01:57:33.079
I don't even drink out of those kind of cups

2077
01:57:33.079 --> 01:57:34.520
like she has like a tumbler in the.

2078
01:57:34.520 --> 01:57:35.680
I don't even drink water.

2079
01:57:35.920 --> 01:57:39.079
I don't even drink anything like in the refrigerator. So

2080
01:57:39.119 --> 01:57:42.760
she like just drinks out of her own thing. And

2081
01:57:42.800 --> 01:57:44.760
she was like, I don't know what is going on,

2082
01:57:44.960 --> 01:57:48.399
and it's probably that someone lives in the walls, but yeah,

2083
01:57:48.439 --> 01:57:52.600
of course, yeah, or that she just didn't notice for

2084
01:57:52.680 --> 01:57:54.520
three days and then all of a sudden, she's like, oh,

2085
01:57:54.560 --> 01:57:57.520
it's glass of water there, but it was still upsetting

2086
01:57:57.640 --> 01:57:57.960
the end.

2087
01:57:58.319 --> 01:58:00.239
Yeah, that would that would make me wonder about the

2088
01:58:00.239 --> 01:58:05.960
walls personally. Yeah, did anybody suggest she check if the

2089
01:58:06.319 --> 01:58:08.039
house had a carbon monoxide detector?

2090
01:58:08.359 --> 01:58:10.399
You know? I didn't see anyone do that, and I

2091
01:58:10.399 --> 01:58:11.239
think they should.

2092
01:58:11.039 --> 01:58:14.159
Have because it's not her home, so she wouldn't know.

2093
01:58:15.119 --> 01:58:18.079
Yeah, and and and like I could see that, like

2094
01:58:18.119 --> 01:58:19.680
she comes and all of a sudden, there's something, there's

2095
01:58:19.720 --> 01:58:22.960
a detail that's different. Maybe it's because it's not different

2096
01:58:22.960 --> 01:58:24.119
and you're having problems.

2097
01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:30.000
Oooh devious. I guess well, I like that one. That's creepy.

2098
01:58:30.039 --> 01:58:31.399
And that's the kind of thing that would get me

2099
01:58:31.560 --> 01:58:34.720
because I will forget. I did things. Last night. I

2100
01:58:34.760 --> 01:58:38.079
was making really fancy burritos for Rachel and I and

2101
01:58:38.600 --> 01:58:40.880
we looked everywhere for the sour cream and couldn't believe

2102
01:58:40.920 --> 01:58:43.560
we were out of sour cream because I have been

2103
01:58:43.840 --> 01:58:45.640
eating on it. I've been on a diet, so I

2104
01:58:45.640 --> 01:58:48.760
have not been eating sour cream with any regular you

2105
01:58:48.760 --> 01:58:51.239
know regularity. I'm like eating it maybe once a week.

2106
01:58:51.800 --> 01:58:54.560
We couldn't find it anywhere, couldn't believe that we'd be out,

2107
01:58:54.920 --> 01:58:58.039
and then it was on the island table that I've

2108
01:58:58.079 --> 01:59:00.600
literally been putting the ingredients that I was gonna use it.

2109
01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:04.079
Oh yeah, I don't remember putting it there, and Rachel

2110
01:59:04.079 --> 01:59:08.000
doesn't remember putting it there. Somebody put it there while

2111
01:59:08.039 --> 01:59:11.520
we were preparing the burrito stuff. Yeah, but I was

2112
01:59:11.600 --> 01:59:14.159
literally looking for it to put it where it was.

2113
01:59:15.640 --> 01:59:18.760
So it's probably just me because I'm stupid, but it

2114
01:59:18.760 --> 01:59:20.840
could also have been ghosts or somebody living in the walls.

2115
01:59:21.119 --> 01:59:24.199
Yeah. One time I think it was this house, but

2116
01:59:24.239 --> 01:59:26.680
I don't really remember. I was. I had like a

2117
01:59:26.680 --> 01:59:30.960
dessert thing like chocolates or something, I don't remember, and

2118
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I would I went to get one and I was like,

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I think I had more of this than I have now, like,

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someone ate it. It's not me, but I live by

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myself and Gigs doesn't eat it. But then I just

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decided that it's fine and there's probably no one here

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eating my stuff, but maybe there is.

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I mean, let's just hope your printer doesn't go off. Yeah, okay, sorry,

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it's still funny.

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I have a differ now, Okay, good.

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My printer hasn't. Actually, now that I think about it,

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my printer hasn't like randomly went Coaturn when I've been

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in here in a while, but it does randomly do.

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I've had it blow takes on my podcast because it

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just decides to do stuff. So but on that note, Chill,

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thanks for letting me hang out with you now and soon,

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as is tradition, Michelle, you have the final word, and

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it better not be a yawn.

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Oh god, why would you do that?

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It was