July 28, 2025

Monthly Spooky | Spontaneous Combustion, Haunted Funeral Homes, and Killer Squirrels

Monthly Spooky | Spontaneous Combustion, Haunted Funeral Homes, and Killer Squirrels
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Monthly Spooky: Weird News, Haunting Stories, And Urban Legends

In the July edition of Monthly Spooky, Henrique and Michelle serve up a hot mix of the bizarre and the hilarious. From terrifying real-world mysteries to strange animal behavior, this episode is bursting with the eerie, the absurd, and the unexplainable:

🕯️ Spontaneous Human Combustion – Is it real or just strange pseudoscience? Henrique and Michelle discuss real cases and the science (or lack thereof) behind one of the most unsettling phenomena in paranormal lore.

🐝 Bees Gone Wild in NYC – Swarms of bees took over parts of New York City. We explore how and why it happened, and what it says about the spooky side of urban nature.

🐿️ The Ground Squirrel Uprising – A squirrel infestation in Minot, North Dakota has residents and officials going nuts. We talk invasive rodents, community panic, and controversial extermination plans.

⚰️ Tales from the Mortuary – Henrique shares chilling funeral home stories, including phantom knocks, unsettling energies, and one very personal ghost story.

💥 Plus: Bad math grades, ball lightning confusion, and more horror movie recommendations to spice up your summer watchlist.

Whether you’re braving the heat or hiding in the AC, this episode delivers a perfectly chilling escape into the weird world we live in.

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🎵 Music by Ray Mattis
👉 Check out Ray’s incredible work here !
👨‍💼 Executive Producers: Rob Fields, Mark Shields, Bobbletopia.com
🎥 Produced by: Daniel Wilder
🌐 Explore more terrifying tales at: WeeklySpooky.com

🎧 LISTEN NOW and subscribe for spine-tingling horror stories every week!

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🎵 Music by Ray Mattis 👉 Check out Ray’s incredible work here !
👨‍💼 Executive Producers: Rob Fields, Bobbletopia.com
🎥 Produced by: Daniel Wilder
🌐 Explore more terrifying tales at: WeeklySpooky.com
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Swarms of bees are terrorizing New York City citizens who

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believes in ghosts and why the creepier sign to running

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a mortuary and of course bursting into flames for no reason.

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Get comfortable, turn off the lights.

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It's Monthly Spooky.

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Well, hello, my spookies, it is indeed that time of

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the month. It's it's time for a little monthly spooky.

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I'm of course you're a host, Enrique Kuto here with

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my good buddy and co host here on Monthly Spooky, Michelle, Michelle,

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how are you?

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I don't know, I'm whatever.

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That's fair. I should have asked it easier question. I'm sorry, Yeah,

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you al started this? Yeah I opened too intense.

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Yeah yeah, ask me like a math problem.

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Well, well tell I see I I want to ask

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a math problem. But immediately I know that I won't

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know the answer to the questions. So it's not like fair,

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you know, just.

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Yeah, because I could just say something.

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Yeah, you just say a number that that sounds right,

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and I would be right, or I would be like yay.

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It's like, uh, what was There was a comedian who

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used to do a joke that said my friend was

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my friend is an idiot? Savant idiot. So you could

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take a jar of toothpicks and throw him on the floor,

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and he could tell you exactly how many are down

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on the ground, and he's always wrong. That's how That's

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how I feel most of my life.

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Yeah, me too. No, no, I don't think I'm right.

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No, no, fair, fair enough. So but we're back yet again,

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and I think, according to my count, we've done thirty

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seven episodes of Monthly Spooky. That sounds like a lot, it,

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does it?

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No, not really.

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Oh. Sometimes I like to look at like the aggregate

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number of minutes I've podcasted and imagine, like a NonStop marathon,

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like how many days could somebody be subjected to just

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listening to me speak? And then how much money would

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the federal government's intelligence agency pay me to use that

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as a torture method.

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Yeah, I wish.

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I'm always looking for a new ways to monetize content,

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you know, I'm just I'm very savvy like that.

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Yeah.

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So, but it is. We're heading into August, we're heading

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into the latter half of the summer, and it has

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been a very hot summer. I don't know if you noticed.

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I mean, there was there was that time when we

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had that really really intense heat wave, but then since

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then it's been pretty pretty normal ish here. We really

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haven't been We've been in the eighties until today.

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So we had we had the same, like a heat

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wave that was just freaking brutal, But we've been hanging

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in the mid in the low nineties for several days

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in a row, so it's just been it's yeah, it's

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just been stewy outside. I don't know another word for it.

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So it's been it's been really warm. My electric bill

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was the scariest part of my whole month wow, running

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at ac My my electric bill was really high after

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that that month, with the heat wave and everything.

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I wish I knew what you meant by really high.

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Uh it was like two hundred and twenty dollars.

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That's really high.

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Yeah, So on top of us having a heat wave,

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are what do you call it? The cost of electricity?

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Like the contract ended and now it's gone up slightly

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as well.

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ending in August. I have to switch again.

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re up my natural gas. I felt like I'm not

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in a hurry since I've got a while before I'll

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be using much of it at all. All I use

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it on is heating my water right now, So it's

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pretty consistent, Bill. But yeah, so on top of all that,

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it's that, and we do have a second building now

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running AC right, although that second building is small and

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we generally keep it at like seventy eight degrees or

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seventy nine degrees. It's not like super chilly in there.

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One of the reasons the AC runs so high is

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this podcast fault. I know, because my office gets way

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warmer than the rest of the house, and then when

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I have to close the door and put up the

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sound dampening, it gets so warm in here that I

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end up needing to keep the house as a whole

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pretty damn cold to get this room to stay like

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below seventy five or seventy six. That's why my favorite

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time of year to podcast is the winter, because then

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it's the opposite. I turn the heat way down because

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the one room I'm in is nice and toasty. Yeah,

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it's pretty nice. It honestly feels like a hack. When

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I'm the only person home. It's like I'll be like,

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I'm just gonna turn the dial the sixty two. Also,

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there's no dial, this is not the past, but I'll

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like put it to sixty two because the office will

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be like sixty six or sixty seven if I've been

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podcasting for hours in here. So it's the smallest room

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in the house is my studio office space, so it's

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always stayed really warm anyway. Yeah, but then there's also like,

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you know, computers and and me. I just generate a

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lot of heat.

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People really do though, in general. Yeah scary.

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Oh yeah, no, we really really do.

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So yeah, I've I've seen like like when I've worked

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event spaces that are really large, you'll come in and

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be like, oh my god, I'm freezing death. I'm like, oh,

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we're just getting ready for when the four hundred people

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come in, and then sure enough, Yeah, the temperature balances

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once four hundred people are standing in there.

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Gross.

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What we're just generators?

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Gross? Gross?

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I mean you're generating heat right now. I know.

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Gross.

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry that there's nothing you can do

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about it. Well, speaking of heat, this month's topic is

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going to be spontaneous human combustion.

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No, I'm scared of that you are, Yeah, what is

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there to be afraid of? I don't know, going on

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fire spontaneously?

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have you seen the photos, like the terrifying photos of

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like just feet.

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No, I don't look at that stuff.

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No, that's good. You're smart.

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Yeah, I guess you could just like stop, drop and roll.

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It's except it's supposedly coming from inside you, not outside.

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You just pat it out.

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Well, if it makes you feel any better. Most people

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are skeptical of its existence.

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Yeah, I do know that.

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Yeah, But but there's a whole thing and I will

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get into it more when we dive in deep. But

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there's a whole thing about how human fat, all fat

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liquifies when it gets really hot, renders, and once it renders,

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it becomes insanely flammable.

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Uh huh.

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So we're basically just giant walking candles with anxiety.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean some of us will burn longer than others.

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I would burn substantially longer than you. But you know,

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nobody's perfect.

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It's not that big of a deal though, because you're

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gonna die of smoke inhalation before you burn to death.

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That's true. It just leaves a really bizarre scene because

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it could potentially burn hot enough to burn your bones

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to ash.

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That's not great.

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Possibly, well, it's better than at the cemetery, the or

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the crematoriums where they just burn you for like forty

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five minutes and then grind you up. They're like, ah,

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it's good enough, just grind up the rest, meal it out.

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So we're gonna talk about that. But before we talk

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about the the hot and balmy the topic, we'll have

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some spooky news, including an update on the death Cap

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mushroom situation. Unfortunately, there's we don't have everything really. Yeah,

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we'll get into all of that right after this. Now,

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as we return, I think it's about time we do

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not only our usual coverage of the news, but for

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the second time ever on the program, a news update.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so I guess it's time. Do you want to

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you want to take the honors? I usually always get

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to do it. You want to do it?

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I thought you really liked to do it.

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I mean, I enjoy it, but but that's part of friendship,

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is I like to share things I enjoy.

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Oh, do you want me to do it?

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Yeah? Do it?

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We're going to do that thing with you do the

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news stuff, and it's kind of spooky sometime.

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All right, next time I'll write you some cards. Uh,

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it's it's time for the spooky news. The spooky news.

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So this is an update about the Aaron Patterson court

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hearing about death cap mushrooms. This was published on July seventh,

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so after our last episode published and last time we

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were on the show, so two times before we covered

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a ton about this. Then we covered the court trial,

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but unfortunately they hadn't reached a verdict yet because they'd

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only had five days to figure out how obviously that

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this woman murdered people with mushrooms. But this is from NPR.

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I figure we could go through this and it'll give

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us a little bit of a refresher and then let

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us know how things went in the court hearing. Of course,

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the headline spoils most of that. The headline is an

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Australian woman is found guilty of murdering her in laws

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by toxic mushrooms. I don't know how I would have

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felt if it had turned out that, if they had

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been like, she's not guilty. Yeah, there's so many ridiculous

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elements to this I think when this is all done,

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I'm gonna do like a super long, terrifying and true

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and like run down all of the ridiculous stuff.

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You should. Yeah.

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After nearly two years and a nine week trial, wow,

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nine weeks, wow, a jury found Aaron Patterson guilty in

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the murder and attempted murder of her estranged husband's elderly relatives,

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three of whom died after eating her home cooked meal

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containing poisonous mushrooms. Yeah, and she didn't really get sick

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at all. She went to lostpo was like, my stomach

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feels off, and then I was like, anyway, I'm gonna

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go home. Everybody else is dying. The fifty year old

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mother of two is facing life in prison and will

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be sentenced later. That's the thing. Hopefully, hopefully she'll be

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sentenced by next month. I don't know why it's taking

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so long, so but hopefully.

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Oh. I don't know how that works. And you only

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have a sentencing trial when it's when it's possible that

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they're going to kill you. And also that's in America,

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so I have no idea.

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Oh no, uh yeah, they do it different. I know

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she could be facing life and you can like in America,

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you can appeal a sentence, you know so, And I'm

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sure you can there too. But yeah, it's just it's

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just this has taken so long. I want the resolution.

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Yeah, yeah, me too.

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In July of twenty twenty three, I shouldn't be complaining.

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We're getting so much content out of this, but still,

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Patterson hosted four guests, her husband's parents, aunt, and uncle,

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for lunch at her home in the small town of

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Leon Gotha. I can never say. I don't know how

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I say Leon Gotha. It's Leon and then Gava, Leon Gava, Yeah,

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about eighty five miles from Melbourne. It is undisputed that

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she served them individual portions of homemade beef wellington. That

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alone is questionable because usually you don't make individual portions

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of beef wellington. She claimed she couldn't find steaks big

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enough or something a steak dish wrapped in pastry, usually

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with a paste of finely chopped mushrooms, and as Patterson

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herself testified during the trial, that paste contained death cap mushrooms,

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which are among the most poisonous in the world. All

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four guests were hospitalized with gastro intestinal symptoms the following day,

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and three of them died the following week from altered

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liver function and multiple organ failure due to Amita mushroom poisoning.

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The sole survivor recovered after weeks and intensive care and

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went on to testify at Patterson's trial in Victoria State

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Supreme Court. Wow, that had to go all the way

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to the State Supreme Court too. I like how they

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mentioned that like four guests, well, five people supposedly ate

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the food. M see why I can't believe that it

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took like a nine week trial. Yeah, supposedly five people

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ate the food, and magically the one, the person who

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cooked it, had zero ailment at all.

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She could have said something like, well, I was I've

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been training to to, like, you know, do that thing

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where I'm not.

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It can't build an immunity, yeah.

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To them for a really tolerance. Yeah, so I ate

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it and I was basically okay. But it's weird that

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that's what I was doing.

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But you know, the trial, which lasted far longer than

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it's expected six weeks. I think six weeks is a

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long time. Yeah, featured over fifty witnesses.

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Wow.

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Eight days of Patterson's testimony, So eight days of jail,

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just her wow and a series of twist and turns.

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The main question facing the jury did no shit? Did

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Patterson knowingly put deathcap mushrooms in the dish with the

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intention of killing her guests? That was the main I

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thought the main question would be, like, is a beef

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Wellington an appropriate meal for a lunch? That's what the

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jury's deliberating about.

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Like a backup part of it that they also rolled on.

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That's why it took so long.

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Prosecutors argued that she did so on purpose, citing financial

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tensions between her and her estranged husband, but stopping short

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of offering a motive. Patterson, who pleaded not guilty to

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three counts of murder and one count of attempted murder,

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denied that poisonings were deliberate. Throughout the trial, Patterson's lawyers

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argued that some foraged mushrooms made it into the dish

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by accident, and said she later covered up her actions,

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including lying to investigators about things like four jing for mushrooms,

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owning a food dehydrator, and becoming ill herself after the

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meal out of fear after her guest's deaths.

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Yeah, that's yeah.

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The fact that she never got ill. That should negate

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everything like that should make it way worse that she admits,

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like I must have I had foraged mushrooms. I had

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lied about it. It's like, but why did you never

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get ill? Why did you not eat any of it?

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Maybe she did, but she only got the parts of

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the mushroom that were okay, like she was it was

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just magic.

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Yeah, yeah, but the luck of the puree.

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Yeah yeah yeah.

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In the days before the jury members entered sequestered deliberations,

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Justice Christopher Beale warned that Patterson's lies did not inherently

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prove her guilt. Okay, I mean, I mean she was

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literally misleading an investigation.

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And also fuck in like she she's like, oh, I

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forged mushrooms and maybe it just made it in there.

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It's like, yo, so you were just so you who

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knows about mushrooms, were just keeping death cab mushrooms in

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your cabinet, Like.

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No, you wow, you got you got real jersey in

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that one. Sorry, no, no, no, it's good, you're just

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getting passionate. I guess no, you're right though, Well, she's

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claiming that she just had foraged mushrooms, that some of

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them must have been death caps.

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But she'd no, because she's a mushroom forger like it. No, yeah, no, yeah.

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I know, I'm with you. I agree her argument is

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the problem. Yeah. The judge was quoted as saying, even

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if you think that the alleged incriminating conduct she admits

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engaging and makes her look guilty, that does not necessarily

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mean that she is guilty, he said, But the jury

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was convinced of her guilt. Yeah, so, man, like, I

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don't want to run through the whole thing again because

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we covered it pretty at length last time. Yeah, but

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definitely if you didn't listen last month, check it out.

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We've talked at length about this, but we will bring

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up again well next monthly spooky hopefully when she's been sentenced.

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Will we'll put a cap on all of this. Very nice,

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Thank you. Well, when we get back, we're going to

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talk about something happening on our side of the ocean,

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as apparently a kind of plague is hitting New York

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City right now, right after this, all right, so we're

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heading to your ancestral homeland.

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Yeah except no, not.

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Yeah, well not exactly, but of New York City. This

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articles from the New York Post, and I hadn't heard

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about this at all. I don't know if ed you

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heard about this the stories from June, Why are there bees?

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Bee swarms buzzing through New York City and what to

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do if you see one?

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I have not heard about this.

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No. Well, first of all, the article starts with bee

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warned boom. Hordes of bees have been flocking to planters,

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trash bins, and even bicycles around Midtown Manhattan this season,

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according to multiple social media posts and videos capturing the

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quote biblical swarms. I hadn't heard about this at all.

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And they're showing there's pictures of like city bikes covered

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in bees.

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Oh wow, that's a lot of bees.

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That's a lot of bees. Yeah, look at that, all

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those bees.

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They look so happy. Actually they're probably not happy if

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they're swarming.

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Oh actually, probably not happy if they have to pay

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the kind of rent that's in New York City. Oh yeah,

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they're like, ah, hell that was my desktop background. Enjoy

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so uh quote It's a fascinating and terrifying experience, said

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Nick Rosack, head bee keeper at the nonprofit Bee University

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New York City and Staten Island chapter president of the

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New York be Club. Imagine how exciting for a moment.

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Imagine how exciting that would be. Sorry to be the

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head beat keeper and of of the and of the

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Staten Island Chapter and Staten Island Chapter president of the

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New York BE Club like and like, imagine exciting. This

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situation is really exciting. Yeah, Like you spend most of

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your life, I assume alone, if you're that interested in bees,

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and then all of a sudden, like the New York

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Post calls you goes, uh, hey there are bees swarming

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all over New York. You're like, oh, yes, my opinion,

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it's valuable. Like I just I just imagine, Like if

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I were the Staten Island Chapter president of the New

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York BE Club, I'd be like at the grocery store

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and somebody like, excuse me, where is the detergent? And

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then when I turned and they saw like I had

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like New York BE Club on my shirt, they'd be like, oh,

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never mind, it's like walk away. Nobody wants to hear

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my opinion. Finally, I don't mean any mean to Nick Brozak.

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He look, I've known some people who study bugs, and

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they usually have a pretty good sense of humor about

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how weird it is to be really into insects. So

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I hope if I know, Nick listens to the show,

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so I hope he doesn't take it personal. I just

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think it's it just sounds funny to think, like there's

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a there's a Staten Island chapter of the New York

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be Club, that there is a New York Bee Club.

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So then for New York City to be like attacked

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by swarms of bees, it's like they finally arrived. Like

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part of me thinks like they'd get the call and

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then like they would look around the room and then

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like a little keypad would come out of their desk

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and they'd be like be pressing buttons and like a

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door would open with all these like weapons and be

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suits and stuff. They like, this is why we were

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founded in seventeen fourteen. They knew this day would come.

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It's just funny that there's a bee club. Now. This

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makes me wonder if is there a Dayton, Ohio b Club.

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I'm sure there is, because there's because beekeeping is a profession.

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I don't so we don't have a bee club, but

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we have the Greater Dayton bee Keepers Okay, so yeah,

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which are a part of the Ohio State Beekeepers Association,

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so pretty much the same thing, except better, right, probably.

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I actually don't know, I know, I mean, I know

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I'm allergic to bees, but I don't know if we

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have like great bees here. I know I've had Ohio

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honey and it's pretty good.

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Okay, I like bees. They're outside.

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What about when they get inside?

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Though they don't really get inside. The wasps get inside,

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and that's scary.

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Yeah. Yeah, I'm very very allergic to wasps. I have

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cans of wasp killer basically under every sink in my house.

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I'm sorry because if if I see a wasp, it's

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me or them, I know, because they're so aggressive. When

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I see a bee, I just I'm fine. I just

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I just like mine my own business and and they're

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fine with it. But if I see a wasp, I'm like,

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I need to kill this wasp and I need to

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find the nest and kill the nest right now. Like

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they are a danger to me. Yeah, and I will

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treat them as such. I'm going to join I'm going

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to start the Ohio Wasp Club infiltrate it.

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Did you know that there's an they make an they

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make like a thing that you can take from wasp

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venom to get yourself less allergic.

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To wasps, like anti venom not I.

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Mean anti venom, I believe is like something you would

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give afterwards. This is like this is like the this

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is like kind of like allergy shots.

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I'm curious, now there are there are allergy shots. It's

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called venom immunotherapy.

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Yeah, that's it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There are people who just go around and they take

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down the wasps and then they freeze them and then

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they bring them to this place in somewhere on the

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East coast. I can't Oregon. That's not the East coast

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at all.

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I was wondering after you mentioned that. I was like, hey,

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I never thought about, like why isn't that a more

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popular option for people with allergies? Like why was it

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never brought up to me. That's because it takes three

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to five years to have the effects of immunotherapy from it.

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Okay, I mean, I know that's a long time, but

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you'd still get it.

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That's a really long time to commit to something.

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To commit to something that would help you significantly.

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I mean, if we're gonna follow the statistics, I should

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just stop eating red meat and go for a jog

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every day.

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Okay, I mean, if that's what you want. I was

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just gonna. I was just trying to make you not

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get killed by wasps things.

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But whatever, Well, my secret weapon is I kill them first.

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Yeah, it's all good until you're just like outside and

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you step down and you get you get stung by

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a wasp.

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I wear shoes.

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I also wear shoes, but one of them went in

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my sandal.

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I wear shoes. I don't wear sandals. And well when

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when I wear crocs, it's okay because wasps are very

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snobby and they've often said they would never be caught

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dead wearing crocs, So I have no problem there. Okay, fine,

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this this escalated quickly. Quote. You're standing there and there's

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twenty or thirty thousand bees in a tornado flying through

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midtown Manhattan. It's definitely going to make people pay attention.

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More than two hundred species of bees, called gothams trees,

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light poles, and buildings home, according to the city's Health Department,

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and much like their human counterparts, summer serves as a

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peak time for them to find a new home and

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food sources, resulting in swarms. Wow, there's a video. I

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don't think you'd be able to see it very well

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from there. But it's like, just they're swarmingly crazy. Yeah,

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I care all over the bus and stuff. Yeah, it's

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kind of had to see him because they're so small. Yeah,

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a colony of thousands of bees may form a swarm

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when it is time to leave their hive and form

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a new one, according to the city website, adding that

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bee swarms may land on a quote stationary object in

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the process. Okay, but Rozac asserts the bees aren't setting

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00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.480
up a new home on bicycles or traffic lights, and

467
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:08.759
worker bees are just quote hanging out and waiting for

468
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:12.400
further instructions, while scout bees are actively looking for more

469
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:17.440
hospitable spots for a permanent hive. I don't know if

470
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.279
I believe what Big Bee is telling us about this

471
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:23.640
right now. I think this is a scheme to get

472
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:28.279
us to buy more immunotherapy and be stuff.

473
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:30.640
I mean, considering no one brought that up.

474
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:35.359
At all yet. The article's not over. Oh fine, yeah,

475
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:36.960
but we're gonna take a quick break and then we're

476
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.880
gonna get to the bottom of this obvious conspiracy theory

477
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:52.000
right after this all right, now, we're back talking about

478
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.200
the swarms of bees in New York. I still can't

479
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:55.000
believe I didn't hear.

480
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.599
About this because I don't think this was really a

481
00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.599
big deal. Like, it doesn't sound like a big deal.

482
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.960
It sounds like there was like three people on TikTok

483
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:06.720
who saw some bees, and then New York Post was like,

484
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:08.640
I don't know, let's just do a story about the

485
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:10.920
bees because that's like them.

486
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.240
That's like them. And as we've learned, almost all news

487
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:17.960
is based on a TikTok going, not even going that

488
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.480
viral bit like the TikTok which now has seven hundred

489
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:24.880
and fifty thousand views. It's like that's not even that many. Yeah,

490
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:29.279
I mean for TikTok. Yeah. Dramatic videos of Midtown swarms

491
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:32.119
this season were first reported last month near West thirty

492
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:36.240
eighth Street and seventh Avenue, while others have since been

493
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:40.759
spotted near Radio City Music Hall on sixth Avenue. While

494
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:45.279
Nick while Nick wholefly, hmm, I don't know if I

495
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:49.519
trust somebody with a name like that. Certified master beekeeper

496
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:53.240
and New York Bee Club Administration director told The Post

497
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:57.839
that swarming behavior is quote very regular for bees. He

498
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:01.200
noted that midtown swarming is to see due to a

499
00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:05.480
lack of greenery. I just want to say, this reminds

500
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.799
me of years ago we read that news story saying that, like,

501
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:10.119
sharks won't bite your feet, so just go in the

502
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:13.680
ocean with your feet, And it felt very obvious that

503
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:15.359
the sharks had written that article.

504
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:17.240
Yeah.

505
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:20.079
All I'm saying is this man has a vested interest

506
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:20.920
in bees.

507
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:23.880
Yeah, but he would have.

508
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:28.440
I know, I don't know. He's here to protect us

509
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:29.119
for sure.

510
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:30.000
Yeah.

511
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:34.720
Lies. A surge in Manhattan's corporate rooftop bee hives also

512
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:39.000
led to a density density and bees that's quote a

513
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:42.359
little higher than what Midtown can handle. He added, The

514
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.440
swarming maybe a little more than they would be regularly,

515
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.720
But it's not a wild thing that we're seeing. See now,

516
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:53.119
they're telling us to deny our lying eyes. I'm becoming

517
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.279
Alex Jones on this. The bees are here and they're

518
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.000
going to take our lives. They're going to take the

519
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:00.960
men and women in children we love.

520
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:02.480
Yay.

521
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:05.640
I haven't done an Alex Jones voice in a while,

522
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.519
and I can still I can still nail it. Yeah

523
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:09.559
that felt good.

524
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:10.319
Good.

525
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:13.000
I won't bow down to the bees, and I ask

526
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.759
you don't either, all Right, he's becoming like Halcog in

527
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:17.640
the Morn. Actually, honestly, he always sounded kind of like

528
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:21.799
Haulcog and rest in peace all right. Rosack added that

529
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:24.720
responsible I feel like it should be like. Rozak added

530
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.160
that whole fly doesn't know what he's talking about and

531
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:29.359
barely even attends me. That would be amazing if it

532
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:35.119
just became them fighting. Rozak added that responsible beekeepers prevent

533
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:39.599
regular swarms by quote tricking bees to stay put, but

534
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:42.720
it's unclear whether the recent Manhattan swarms are the result

535
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:47.119
of an inexperienced beekeeper or Faral hives.

536
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:49.039
Yay, Faral Hives.

537
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.160
That should be the name of your next album, Faral Hives.

538
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.839
Okay, it sounds like it's probably about a skin condition.

539
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:59.839
But that's the best part. Yeah, it's up to the

540
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:01.720
interpretation of the audience.

541
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:03.480
I mean, it's just going to be a picture of

542
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:04.559
red skin.

543
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:08.400
But then printed in black and white.

544
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:15.400
Yes, so it's just gray.

545
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:20.480
Quote. As an urban beekeeper, it's part of our responsibility

546
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:23.920
to actually prevent swarming, he said, So it's their fault.

547
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:29.440
I knew it. I mean, yes, quote, it's healthy for

548
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.039
the bee to do that, but in an urban setting,

549
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:35.720
we try our best to prevent it. Now they're giving

550
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:37.240
us advice on what to do if you see a

551
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:39.599
bee swarm. New Yorker is witnessing a beet swarm on

552
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:43.000
city property, you're urged to call nine one one, according

553
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:48.039
to the Health Department. So everything we just read. But

554
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.279
then but then it's like, the Health Department said, call

555
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:51.920
nine one one.

556
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:57.599
Don't they have other things they gotta do? I guess not.

557
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.759
No, they don't. They don't do that anymore. The city

558
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:05.519
retains a quote be cop to handle swarms, hope I said,

559
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.880
who in turn keeps a short list of other beekeepers

560
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:15.000
for backup. Just say the guy just shows up knocking

561
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.319
on a beehive and the bees are like, do you

562
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:22.640
have a warrant? That's how their voices have to sound.

563
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:26.960
The NYPD's Bite Sized Beekeeping Unit responded to dozens of

564
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.519
swarm and hive removal requests in the Burrows between twenty

565
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.440
nineteen and twenty twenty four. Hobbyist beatkeepers will also oftentimes

566
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.160
catch wind and flock to the scene at no cost

567
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:41.880
for the chance to haul a swarm away. Hopely says, yeah,

568
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:44.559
you can make money off of a beehive or you're

569
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:45.880
just weird and you like bees.

570
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:51.359
Well maybe you're a beekeeper and you're gonna make money.

571
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.519
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I said. I said making

572
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:55.559
money off them is great. It would be if you

573
00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:57.160
were like, I just want to keep bees for the

574
00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:58.720
sake of it. That's what I'm like.

575
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:06.240
Uh no, so you might want to keep them, ah hope,

576
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:07.440
I said.

577
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.559
Some will hould them away for free, while other beekeepers

578
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.920
and pest control companies will charge a fee. Quote. Most

579
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.160
of the swarms that you're seeing on social media are

580
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:18.680
getting picked up by local beekeepers, Hopefly explained. It really

581
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:21.119
depends on who's available and how much of a nuisance

582
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:24.480
the swarm is. So, see, I'm getting mixed signals because

583
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.039
you were like see, so it's nothing and then it's

584
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:28.160
like call nine one one when you see one.

585
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:31.920
M So maybe it's call nine one one so we

586
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:33.079
can come get the bees.

587
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:36.200
So we have them now, because will because they're dangerous?

588
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:38.319
Yeah, because they're dangerous.

589
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:43.000
She made air quotes. Rosack asserts that bees swarms are

590
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:47.880
not dangerous and the bees are quote extremely docile see

591
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.000
when they're in a swarm, because they're not protecting babies,

592
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:51.720
food or shelter.

593
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.799
We don't even know what kind of bees they are.

594
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.079
Right, I mean, I don't think they're killer bees.

595
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:03.839
But are they like are they like honey bees, or

596
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.799
are they like bumblebees or something?

597
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:08.199
Carpenter bees.

598
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:11.280
Carpenter bees don't swarm because they're solitary.

599
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:16.840
That's sad. I know, makes me feel sad.

600
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:18.679
It makes me feel seen.

601
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:27.960
Quote it looks terrifying. But you could literally just stand

602
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:31.360
in the middle, he said, unless, of course, you're allergic.

603
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.320
That doesn't make it sound safe at all.

604
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.840
Why doesn't sound safe?

605
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.639
You can stand in the middle. But by saying unless

606
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.679
you're allergic means because you will get stung some then.

607
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.760
Well, I think it's more like it's possible. So you

608
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.119
wouldn't want to do that if you're allergic, because you know,

609
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:53.920
at the one percent chance they sting, you'll die.

610
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.320
Quote. The average person could just take out their phone

611
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.280
and take some photos, don't interact with them, don't in

612
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.639
their way, and just let them land somewhere and then

613
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.119
call a beekeeper to come and respond. He said, this

614
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.360
all sounds like this is actually dangerous to me.

615
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:08.920
I like it.

616
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:12.320
Quote, you want to practice a little bit of caution

617
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:17.280
because they are stinging insects. Hoefly added, but they're generally

618
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:19.800
not going to bother you much if you're not bothering them,

619
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:26.119
So now we're blaming the victim. I see. Bees tend

620
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.559
to act on their natural instinct to swarm around May

621
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:31.079
to July and take about two weeks to prepare to

622
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:34.320
flee their existing hive. Once bees start to swarm, they

623
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.119
could be in and around a stationary object for between

624
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.760
a few hours to as long as several days. Usually

625
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.679
they're yeah, usually they're not there for more than a week,

626
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.480
Hope I said. However, there is the odd swarm that

627
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:50.880
decides to set up shop right where they're sitting. The

628
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:54.519
New York Bee Club formed OH formed last year on

629
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.039
Staten Island and in Queens with a Brooklyn chapter on

630
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.480
the Horizon, seeks to educate beekeepers and give them sources

631
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.599
to help hives thrive, including workshops on how to prevent swarming.

632
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.960
So it's not dangerous, but like, don't go anywhere near

633
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.119
it if you're allergic. It's not dangerous, but call nine

634
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:12.280
one one if you see one. And it's not dangerous.

635
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.400
But we're opening more chapters to deal with it because

636
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:16.719
it's happening so much.

637
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:20.280
It's not to deal with it. It's because they like

638
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:24.159
bees and they're beekeepers. It's not like they're it's not

639
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:29.000
like it's an emergency or response team yet. And we

640
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:33.719
just heard that New York only has a little response

641
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.679
team for bees, like just a little unit. So they're

642
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:40.679
not making more units of the response things.

643
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.039
I mean, in the nineteen forty forties there was a

644
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:46.480
little unit called the Federal Bureau of Investigation, just a

645
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:49.039
tiny part of the Department of Justice. And now look

646
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:51.760
at them. They had the X files.

647
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:52.599
It's true.

648
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:58.000
Quote, especially in urt what we're gonna say, I'm sorry,

649
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.199
I don't know. Especially in urban areas, the goal is

650
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.559
always to keep your bees in the box. Hopefly said.

651
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:05.679
The bees sometimes have made up their mind and no

652
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.159
matter what you do, they're going to swarm and kill you.

653
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:11.199
But the more I added to kill you. But the

654
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:13.639
more responsible you are as a bee keeper, the better

655
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:17.639
your ability to keep the bees from swarming and killing you. Okay,

656
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:21.760
so I added both of those killing yous. Oh man,

657
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:25.679
there's comments I'm like nervous about it.

658
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:31.599
Wow, what can they say?

659
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:34.599
Do not call pest control? As stated, this is Sally

660
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.719
z bees are not pests and are in fact endangered.

661
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:40.719
And then Mike commented and said, if they sting me,

662
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:43.039
they're endangered. Well they die if they sting you, So

663
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:49.000
that helps. A person named wake ups that I would

664
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.800
like to see the bees put up in hotels me too.

665
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:58.159
All right, well that was quite the article. Uh, we're

666
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.119
gonna take a quick break, and then we're gonna talk

667
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.559
about a news story that has been all over social

668
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:07.800
media involving the death of a paranormal investigator and how

669
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:11.880
it might be related to a possessed doll. Right after this,

670
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:22.400
we're back and we're gonna talk a little bit about

671
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:28.639
a haunted doll that's pretty famous due to films and

672
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:33.800
books and things like that, known as Annabelle. I'm a guess.

673
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:37.400
I'm gonna guess tell you haven't seen the annabel movies. No,

674
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:42.039
two animal movies. Have you seen any of those? Like

675
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:46.440
the movies featuring the the you know, fake warrens, I mean,

676
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.000
not the real warrens that are fake, but the pretend warrens.

677
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.960
I think I saw one, but I don't know which

678
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:53.039
one it was because.

679
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:54.880
They conjuring I believe is there.

680
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:56.719
Yeah, Yeah, that's the one.

681
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.000
Those are fun movies. I actually kind of want to

682
00:38:59.000 --> 00:38:59.719
revisit them.

683
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:02.320
Do what I thought? It was fine?

684
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.519
I think harsh. Sorry, Oh no, it's okay. I mean,

685
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:09.679
but I'm sure a lot of people have heard that

686
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:14.719
a paranormal investigator named Dan Rivera has passed away recently

687
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:19.639
while in Pennsylvania, your state, and a lot of people

688
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:22.599
feel like it's pretty weird. But some new news has

689
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:26.480
come out. This is from people dot com. The headline

690
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:30.400
is Annabel doll in hotel room where he died. Oh,

691
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.679
I'm sorry. Paramoral investigator did not have possessed annabel Doll

692
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:37.000
in hotel room where he died, says the coroner. It

693
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:39.280
was cut off. There was an ad. Come, I'm not

694
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:45.199
even joking. The ad was covering the first half. So no,

695
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.679
the allegedly possessed Annabelle Doll was not in the hotel

696
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:52.360
room where paranormal investigator Dan Rivera died earlier this week,

697
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:56.599
according to a Pennsylvania corner in a Friday July eighteenth.

698
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.679
In a Friday July eighteenth message to People, Francis Dutrow,

699
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:03.719
the Adams County Coroner, confirmed that the doll was not

700
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:07.480
present when he arrived at the scene on Sunday, July thirteenth.

701
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:08.760
That sounds scarier.

702
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:12.599
I know that step, Yeah, it fled the scene.

703
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:17.880
When authorities were notified of Rivera's death, Dutrow went on

704
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:19.760
to note that the doll had not been in the

705
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:24.599
hotel room at all. Rivera, a lead investigator for the

706
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:29.159
Connecticut based New England Society for Psychic Research, was in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania,

707
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.960
last weekend with Annabella as part of the Devils on

708
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.159
the Run tour when he died at age fifty four,

709
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.199
young to be passing away and they haven't released a

710
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:44.119
cause of death yet. The Pennsylvania State Police share a

711
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:48.239
report on Wednesday, July sixteenth detailing what happened. Quote members

712
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:53.719
from PSP Gettysburg responded to a hotel in Straban Township

713
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:59.440
Straban Township, Adams County for a report of a deceased man.

714
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:03.320
Official said the descendant was discovered in his hotel room

715
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:07.719
by workers. Nothing unusual or suspicious was observed at the scene,

716
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:11.559
the agency added. His cause of death is pending. Dutrou

717
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.920
earlier told people that Rivera had been with colleagues on

718
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.800
Sunday morning, but said he was feeling sick and was

719
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:21.880
going back to his room. It's unclear what Rivera may

720
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.280
have been ill with, and further information is pending his autopsy,

721
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:28.599
which are autopsy results which are expected in about eight

722
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:34.079
to ten weeks. Wow, it seems I feel like in

723
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.119
movies they do it in like six minutes. But you know,

724
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:38.800
I guess that it could be possible to movie lied.

725
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:41.480
I didn't know. I just assume they're like really backed

726
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:43.800
up with cases. So it's like eventually from.

727
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:45.480
All the people dying of bees things.

728
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.239
Yeah, yeah, just a different state, no one' oh okay.

729
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.320
According to the New England Society for Psychic Research his website,

730
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.679
Annabelle's origin goes back to nineteen sixty eight, when a

731
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.480
student nurse was gifted the doll and brought it to

732
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:04.760
the home where she lived with her roommate. Quote. Almost immediately,

733
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.960
the roommates noticed strange occurrences with the doll, and they

734
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.960
were introduced to a medium who told them the doll

735
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:15.360
was inhabited by the spirit of a young girl named

736
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.639
annabel The organization wrote the two roommates tried to accept

737
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:22.119
the doll's spirit and please it, only to have it

738
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:27.840
reciprocate maliciousness and violent intent. Oh no, how do you

739
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:33.360
please a doll? I mean, like like it likes Burger King,

740
00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:36.599
so you like go to BK for it? Or what

741
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:37.760
is this?

742
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:42.079
I mean, I think poorly is what happened.

743
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:45.320
I guess the problem is that we don't know how.

744
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:48.559
Exactly, or especially them, they didn't know how.

745
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:53.360
The Society added that its founders paranormal investigators Ed and

746
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:56.760
Lorraine Warren, were called in and determined that Annabel was

747
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:05.719
quote demonically possessed. Dunt dunt dum. Yeah, I do wonder.

748
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:09.000
I'm not a fan of Ed and Lorraine Warren. They

749
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:09.599
were frauds.

750
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:12.079
You've already said that.

751
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:14.519
I'm saying it again. It's worth it's worth repeating a

752
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:17.239
good idea. But I and I'm gonna do a really big,

753
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:19.519
terrifying and true where I go through like all of

754
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:23.119
the claims against them. I'm like really looking forward to it. Yeah,

755
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:27.159
but I wonder if they have they I would be

756
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:31.039
curious if they've ever investigated anything and said it wasn't

757
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:34.400
something supernatural, because they they I mean, if you dig

758
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.199
deep into their history, they claim that they encountered were

759
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:42.400
wolves and vampires, like not just ghosts and demons and stuff.

760
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:48.440
So yeah, Lucky. The story of Annabel and the Warrens

761
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.599
led to the development of the horror film franchise The Conjuring.

762
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.199
In a statement later shared with people on Tuesday, July fifteenth,

763
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:58.360
the New England Society for Psychic Research, which first confirmed

764
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.760
the death on social media, made tribute to Rivera. Quote

765
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:04.519
Dan was not only a vital part of our team

766
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.599
for over a decade, but also a deeply compassionate, loyal

767
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:12.000
and dedicated friend, they wrote. His integrity, creativity, and generosity

768
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:15.440
defined him. Dan's passion for the paranormal was rooted in

769
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:19.320
a genuine interest, a desire to educate, help and connect

770
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:23.840
with others, whether through social media, conventions or investigations with

771
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:30.039
local families, seeking understanding and peace. That's a pretty nice sentiment.

772
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:33.760
Yeah, I feel bad. I wish we knew what happened

773
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:34.239
to him.

774
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:39.199
Yeah, really quote. We understand that Dan's work inspired fascination

775
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.719
and curiosity for many, but above all, he was a father,

776
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:46.400
devoted husband and loyal friend, someone who meant the world

777
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:50.880
to those closest to him, the statement added. According to

778
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.559
a Facebook post by Ryan Buell, the host of A

779
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:56.840
and E's Paranormal State, Rivera was also an Army veteran

780
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:58.880
and is survived by his wife and children.

781
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:06.000
Did they just say Paranormal State? Does that exist anymore?

782
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:07.320
I don't know.

783
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:11.000
I haven't seen Paranormal State in like fifteen years.

784
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:16.440
I'm sorry. What are you mad at me? I feel

785
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:17.440
like did I do something?

786
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:20.880
No, I'm mad because I really liked that show. One

787
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.880
time they thought people thought that there was a ghost

788
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:26.079
in their house, and they really almost died of carbon

789
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:29.639
monoxide poisoning. Oh, they saved their lives.

790
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:37.639
I'm glad me too. Okay, I'll check if Paranormal State

791
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:38.840
is still on the air, and then we got to

792
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:39.400
take a break.

793
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:41.079
No, it's okay, you don't have to look.

794
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:44.199
Well, it's too late now you already hurt my feelings.

795
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:46.800
Uh No, it was canceled in twenty eleven.

796
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:50.039
See, it's weird to say that he's the host of

797
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:52.599
it if it's like not been a show for over

798
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:53.239
ten years.

799
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:58.239
Well, it's not like they removed him from it afterwards. Yeah, well,

800
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:00.360
we'll take a break and we'll be back with a

801
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:06.000
story about well, who's more likely to believe in ghosts

802
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:19.880
in the United States of America after this? All right,

803
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:26.199
So this article I found very interesting cell. It's from

804
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:32.960
Newsweek and it's the headline, is the Americans more likely

805
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:37.760
to believe in ghosts? Yeah? There are five demographics in

806
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.400
the US which are more likely to believe in ghosts

807
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:47.159
than others, according to research group. To recent research from Gallup, Okay,

808
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:50.519
so do you have any guesses on I.

809
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:53.559
Don't really want a stereotype, So now you can just

810
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:55.119
tell me it's polling.

811
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:58.360
That's all it is, is stereotyping. That's the best part

812
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:01.000
of it. But you can get away with it when it's.

813
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:03.119
A pole, I guess.

814
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.920
Paranormal belief, whether it's ghosts or spiritual healing, has long

815
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:13.679
been a societal and cultural fascination, from paranormal Investigator TV

816
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:18.480
shows to fictionalized horror movies and franchises. Gallup's pole found

817
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:23.000
that Americans are mostly skeptical about paranormal phenomenon, but certain

818
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:28.920
demographics are more likely to believe than others. Do you

819
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:30.199
want to guess?

820
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:31.519
Why?

821
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:32.159
Don't? Oh?

822
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:33.840
But I was going to say you could guess, but

823
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:35.159
I think you're looking at it.

824
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:37.039
I am, yeah, I can't take can.

825
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.079
I mean, I know what the top one is, but

826
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:41.519
I don't really want to say it.

827
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:44.719
Oh, now you have to because you just set it

828
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:48.000
up like that. Oh no, oh, come on.

829
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:50.360
I think it's probably white women.

830
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:57.079
Well so they didn't make it racial like you did.

831
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:02.599
That's nice, at least not in this initial part of

832
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:09.760
the piece. But uh, women forty percent, so they are

833
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:13.599
the most likely demographic to have paranormal beliefs.

834
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:16.480
Yeah, yeah, I will believe it.

835
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:23.800
Followed by people who infrequently attend religious service also forty percent.

836
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:25.960
That's weird.

837
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:34.239
Yeah, I would agree, College non graduates thirty eight percent, okay,

838
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:46.639
political moderates thirty seven percent. Wow, and then finally liberals

839
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:48.480
thirty five percent.

840
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:49.480
Okay.

841
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:54.039
These groups are all more likely to be open to

842
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:58.119
belief than men twenty eight percent, conservatives twenty eight percent,

843
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:02.679
college graduates twenty eight percent, and weekly church goers twenty

844
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:03.559
two percent.

845
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:04.519
Wow.

846
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:10.360
You know what's weird, though, is this mentions that Americans

847
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.519
are mostly skeptical. But it really is the most literal

848
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:18.880
definition of the word for mostly, because right here it

849
00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:22.679
says overall, forty eight percent of American adults believe in

850
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:26.800
psychic or spiritual healing, while thirty nine percent express a

851
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:30.559
belief in ghosts. It's a lot of people, Yeah, it is.

852
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:33.960
I used to always joke that when I would watch

853
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.000
movies and stuff, and you have all the skeptics saying, like,

854
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:37.360
but there are no such thing as ghosts, I'm like,

855
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:39.320
I almost never meet anybody who says there's no such

856
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:42.440
thing as ghosts. Like most people I know at least

857
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.920
have some like mild belief in ghosts. And some of

858
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:53.360
that's because I'm around women, apparently. But like Peter Dandel,

859
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:56.639
an American folklorist and professor in English at Penn State,

860
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:01.079
told Newsweek via email quote, there are men any psychological

861
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:04.719
reasons people hold paranormal beliefs, such as gaining a sense

862
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:08.559
of control over situations in which they are vulnerable, populating

863
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:11.639
a world with magic and meaning, connecting with the past

864
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:16.039
or future, and reinforcing community among others who also believe.

865
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:19.920
There are also cognitive explanations that map onto this as

866
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:25.079
a separate layer of analysis, including mistrust of institutional authority

867
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:29.559
and deficiencies in properly evaluating popular media such as TV

868
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:30.719
shows or websites.

869
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:34.159
That's a lot of mean things to say about women.

870
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.920
Yeah, did you just basically say girls go to Jupiter

871
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:40.079
to get more stupider, Because that's like what.

872
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:43.800
I heard I mean it didn't rhyme, but.

873
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:49.199
It wasn't as eloquently put yeah as the nursery rhyme.

874
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:56.119
The Gallup poll also identified eight paranormal phenomenon which are

875
00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:59.559
listed below. Psychic or spiritual healing or the power of

876
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:02.239
the human mind to heal the body. Ghosts or that

877
00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:05.119
or that spirits of dead people can come back in

878
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:10.079
certain places and situations. Telepathy or communication between minds without

879
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:13.719
using the traditional five senses that people can hear from

880
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:17.800
or communicate mentally with someone who has died. Clairvoyance or

881
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:20.039
the power of the mind to know the past and

882
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:24.000
predict the future. Astrology or the position of the stars

883
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:27.079
and planets can affect people's lives. That's probably what did

884
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:29.920
women in on the total balance of like them, being

885
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:33.920
forty percent overall women like their astrology.

886
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:38.480
What I don't know.

887
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:41.519
I mean, you know, I know you don't believe in astrology.

888
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:44.599
I do not believe, but I know a lot of

889
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:50.079
people who like astrology, or as I call it sky racism,

890
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:53.320
reincarnation that is the rebirth of the soul in a

891
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:56.159
new body after death. And then I love this last one.

892
00:51:56.159 --> 00:52:01.440
The last one is just witches. There's no further explanation

893
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:04.199
either like all the other ones have like the secondary thing,

894
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:05.880
just as witches.

895
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.480
And that could open a lot of people up to

896
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:10.760
be like, well, I mean, I guess there's witches. I

897
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:14.280
don't know that they do anything, but I guess it's

898
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:14.840
years ago.

899
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:16.920
The Onion used to do these articles where they would

900
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:20.440
do lists that would be like hyper detailed, like comedy lists.

901
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:22.760
And one of the things they kept doing this owhere

902
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.440
it would just be killer bees and no explanation of

903
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:26.920
why it was in there or anything. It would just

904
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:30.239
say killer bees. And I used to always laugh at that.

905
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:34.039
They also used to put TV's Alan Alda in like

906
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:38.360
slideshows of like but it would be stuff like you know,

907
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:41.360
best sandwiches to eat when you're depressed, and it would

908
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:44.000
be like turkey Tam and then it was like TV

909
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:46.960
legend Alan Alda and just the same photo of him

910
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.440
every time. I used to read, because I you know,

911
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:52.599
I hated my boss so at my old job, I

912
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.960
used to read The Onion all the time online and

913
00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:57.679
we used to like look forward to every time there

914
00:52:57.719 --> 00:52:59.920
was a slide show, be like, come on, Alan Alda.

915
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:02.519
We were always hoping for Alan all that to pop up.

916
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:09.519
The Gallupole then asked Americans about their about their belief

917
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:13.159
in each of these individual news week get Your Stuff

918
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:17.159
together about their belief in each of these individual phenomena.

919
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:19.960
The percentage of people who responded to the gallup Pole

920
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:23.400
that they believed in those seven identified phenomena for each

921
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:27.400
category in chronological order are forty eight percent to psychics,

922
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:31.119
thirty nine percent to ghosts, twenty nine percent to telepathy,

923
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:35.559
twenty seven percent to people being able to communicate with

924
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:40.719
the dead, twenty seven percent to clairvoyance, twenty six percent

925
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:44.760
to astrology. Oh, in surprise, astrology so low, twenty five

926
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:48.159
percent to reincarnation, wait or twenty five percent to astrology,

927
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:51.760
twenty four percent to reincarnation, and twenty four percent to

928
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:55.000
witches hell, let's just witches. I can't get over that.

929
00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:58.480
The percentage of people who responded to the gallup Pole

930
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:01.239
that they were not sure about the seven identified phenomena

931
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.719
for each category and chronologic orders as it follows nineteen

932
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:08.440
percent psychics, nineteen percent, ghosts, twenty one percent, telepathy twenty

933
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:10.599
two percent, people can hear and communicate with the dead

934
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:15.599
twenty three percent, clairvoyance, nineteen percent astrology twenty five percent reincarnation,

935
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:21.920
and fifteen percent witches. Yay, oh boy. The percentage of

936
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:24.519
people respond to the Gallopole that they do not believe

937
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:27.280
in the seven identified phenomena for each category is in

938
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:31.639
chronic is as follows. Thirty two percent psychics, so thirty

939
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:34.000
two percent of people just don't believe in psychics at all,

940
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:38.599
forty two percent ghosts, twenty eight percent telepathy, forty nine

941
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:41.199
percent that people can hear from or communicate with the dead,

942
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:46.679
fifty percent claiavoyance, fifty five percent astrology. Wow, astrology is

943
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:54.000
actually really unpopular. Yeah, fifty percent reincarnation and sixty percent witches.

944
00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:55.559
Wow.

945
00:54:55.719 --> 00:55:00.960
Well, so that's the most people disbelieve and is witches

946
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:01.760
out of all of that.

947
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:03.119
Yeah. Wow.

948
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:06.800
Maybe it's because they didn't define it very well.

949
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:09.639
Yeah, just like okay, sure witches.

950
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:24.480
Well, we'll dive into more of their findings right after this, Okay.

951
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.719
So when it comes to this poll, the findings were

952
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.360
based on a gallop Pole which was conducted from May

953
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:33.960
one to May eighteenth of this year. Speaking about the

954
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:37.880
demographic differences in paranormal belief, Dandel said, quote, people of

955
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.119
traditional religious backgrounds, regular church attendants have a buttress against

956
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:46.360
popular paranormal beliefs such as telepathy and astrology, perhaps because

957
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:50.400
they perceive those to be counter to their religion. That

958
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:53.719
makes sense they either believe it is false or else

959
00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:59.400
the work of different spiritual forces such as demons. College

960
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:02.480
graduates we also have a buttress against paranormal beliefs from

961
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:06.280
a greater exposure to courses in critical thinking, science, world history,

962
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.639
and religion, as well as cultural analysis. So in this

963
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:13.559
limited context, it seems that some demographics without railguards can

964
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:20.119
be more susceptible to paranormal beliefs. Dandel added, Oh, man,

965
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.599
let's see Peter Dandel. We were just talking. I don't

966
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:27.599
know whether they're reintroducing him at this point in the article.

967
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:31.960
But Peter Dandel, an American focalist and professor in English

968
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:35.199
at Penn State, told Newsweek quote, women and men do

969
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:38.679
not believe in the same paranormal phenomena. Equally, women are

970
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:41.920
somewhat more inclined towards phenomena with a social aspect of

971
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:46.360
connecting with other people, such as psychic abilities or astrological readings,

972
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:49.000
while men are somewhat more attracted to beliefs with a

973
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:54.039
strongly physical component, such as Bigfoot and aliens. That is true.

974
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:58.400
I did a Bigfoot documentary and I did a TV

975
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:04.840
series about Bigfoot. Men are into Bigfoot and aliens very much.

976
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.880
There may also be a cult, be cultural scripts that

977
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:15.760
encourage men to assert themselves with markers of rationality. I

978
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.679
like that. So it's society's fault men are more rational.

979
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:21.800
That's a safe, safe argument because it would be kind

980
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:23.960
of rude to just say women aren't rational, which I

981
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:25.840
don't believe is as a whole at all.

982
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:29.199
That is literally what this article is saying, though, I

983
00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:30.599
mean overall, really what it's saying.

984
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:34.719
Yeah, I mean, would you like to counterpoint them?

985
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:39.559
No, I would like them not to say that. I

986
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:41.719
would not like. I would like them not to go like, hey,

987
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:44.000
I'm a guy and I don't believe in these things.

988
00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:47.119
So obviously people who don't believe who do believe in

989
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:50.880
them have there's something going on there, but they're less rational.

990
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.880
I mean maybe depends.

991
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:58.000
You know, there's an anime about this, but I'll tell

992
00:57:58.039 --> 00:57:59.119
you that afterwards.

993
00:57:59.280 --> 00:58:02.880
Oh gosh, that's fair, fair enough. It makes me think

994
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:05.519
of that Simpsons episode where Marge Simpson was like, well,

995
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:07.559
that's true, but he didn't have to say it like

996
00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:13.719
that quote. The Gallipole reads, in part quote, most Americans

997
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:18.800
approach paranormal phenomena with caution. However, women, those who attend

998
00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:22.039
churches less frequently, and adults without a college degree are

999
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:24.519
more likely than their counterparts to be open to believing

1000
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:30.119
in at least a few paranormal phenomena. Meanwhile, religious attendance

1001
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:34.199
is the most associated with skepticism. That's while that religious

1002
00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:38.199
attendance is more associated with skepticism than college education.

1003
00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:42.719
I mean that makes sense to me though, right because

1004
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:46.800
we were just talking about it being counter to teachings,

1005
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:50.599
so and they have another belief that's filling in that spot.

1006
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:54.320
So I just think that that's just I think that

1007
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:57.159
actually that's the most interesting element of the finding, rather

1008
00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:58.960
than just picking on women.

1009
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:03.079
I think that none of it's very interesting because it's not.

1010
00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:07.639
I just don't. I mean, I think it's interesting, like categorically,

1011
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:11.000
like how much people believe in witch things and witches.

1012
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:15.039
But besides that, we'll want me to look at the

1013
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:20.519
comments section. I'm kidding, it's empty, but this is one

1014
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:24.159
last thing worth mentioning. Gallup took similar surveys in nineteen

1015
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:27.679
ninety four two thousand and one and twenty twenty five.

1016
00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:32.639
This poll stated that Americans belief in the paranormal phenomena

1017
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:35.159
remains largely unchanged.

1018
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:36.360
That's interesting.

1019
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:39.519
That is really interesting. You think it would change and

1020
00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:43.599
shift in major ways, especially since nineteen ninety four, but

1021
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:44.199
it hasn't.

1022
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:44.840
So that's good.

1023
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:48.480
I would assume that, you know, the post Terminator two

1024
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:51.199
world is just better in general, So there you have it.

1025
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:56.440
But yeah, there's there's an anime that starts off with

1026
00:59:56.880 --> 01:00:01.639
like a dondan on where where's the two main characters.

1027
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:05.159
One of them believes in aliens and doesn't believe in ghosts,

1028
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:07.320
and the other one believes in ghosts and doesn't believe

1029
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:11.599
in aliens. So like they they do like a challenge,

1030
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:13.480
Like one of them is like, Okay, you don't believe

1031
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:16.079
in ghosts, go in the little really scary tunnel and

1032
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:17.639
I'm going to show you there's ghosts, and the other

1033
01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:20.199
person's like, okay, go in this building that like normally,

1034
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:22.360
like there's ufoes a fly overhead, and it turns out

1035
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:23.079
everything's real.

1036
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:27.320
So yeah, I used to That just made me think

1037
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:29.880
of there was a script I was working on when

1038
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:32.440
I was first getting started and making movies, and it

1039
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:35.679
was it was called well it was it was a

1040
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:37.880
sequel to Marty Jenkins in The Vampire Bitches, which was

1041
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:40.920
my first feature, and it was called Marty Jenkins and

1042
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:44.599
the Wolfband from Outer Space. And the reason I thought

1043
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:46.719
it was so funny for so many years was because

1044
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:50.079
the concept was that an alien, like a cheesy like alien,

1045
01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:52.039
just lands on Earth that says like I'm going to

1046
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:55.599
inspect and understand the human condition and blah blah blah,

1047
01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:58.360
and then all of a sudden, like a bush starts shaking.

1048
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:01.239
He's like, what is that over there? So the idea

1049
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:03.480
is that an alien gets bit by a werewolf and

1050
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:06.679
becomes the wolf Man from outer Space. And I just

1051
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:08.800
thought that was the I mean, especially at nineteen years old,

1052
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:12.119
I just thought that was the funniest thing. Yeah, the

1053
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:19.039
Wolfman from outer Space. But speaking of animals, this article

1054
01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:24.480
is from Huffington Post. North Dakota's fourth largest city overrun

1055
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:32.960
by ground squirrels. Really, yes, I mean, why would I lie?

1056
01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:34.440
I'm not sure?

1057
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.280
Ouch? Okay, thanks, it's.

1058
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:40.199
A ground squirrel like a chipmunk.

1059
01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:47.480
Uh. I don't think so? Oh maybe it is? Well, well,

1060
01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:51.400
I guess we could learn together okay, the Richardson's ground

1061
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:54.840
squirrel weighs less than Oh no, yeah, the Richardson's ground

1062
01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:57.079
squirrel weighs less than a pound and is about a

1063
01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:00.480
foot long and is native to the northern plains. The

1064
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:05.239
little creature also is a ferocious tunneler, and it's exasperating

1065
01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:09.440
the people of Minote, North Dakota, where it's burrowing everywhere

1066
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:12.559
from vacant lots to the middle of town and growing

1067
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:17.480
more plentiful over the past two decades. Now, North Dakota's

1068
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:21.440
fourth largest city, is fighting back. But even the pest

1069
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:24.679
control guy leading the charge. This is how it's written.

1070
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:27.480
Even the pest control guy leading the charge acknowledges that

1071
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:30.159
it will be difficult to turn the tide against the rodent.

1072
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:34.199
Joshua Herman said fighting the squirrels is akin to quote,

1073
01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:37.239
one guy standing against a massive storm.

1074
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:40.480
Wow, he really thinks a lot of himself.

1075
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:44.800
Yeah, this guy, I like this guy. I'm with. The

1076
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:46.079
bee guy is not so much.

1077
01:02:46.599 --> 01:02:46.800
Yeah.

1078
01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:50.400
If I'm trapping but my neighbor isn't, well, then we're

1079
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:52.760
really not going to get anywhere with it. Long term.

1080
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.679
Hermann said, ground squirrels have been an issue in Minote,

1081
01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:58.239
a city of nearly fifty thousand people for at least

1082
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:01.760
twenty years, but the problem has dramatically worsened in the

1083
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:07.000
last few said Minote Street Department Superintendent Kevin Brayton. It's

1084
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:09.639
unclear how many of the squirrels live in a Note,

1085
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:12.719
but it's likely it likely nears or even exceeds the

1086
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:13.760
city's population.

1087
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:15.440
That makes sense.

1088
01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:19.840
Quote, gosh, there's got to be tens of thousands of

1089
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:26.320
them in the area. Hermann said, wow, gosh. We're gonna

1090
01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:29.519
take a quick break and then we'll see how Minote

1091
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:41.239
Note is handling this. Right after this break, let's find

1092
01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:45.920
out more about how North Dakota's handling this scourge. Officials

1093
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:48.960
in the city a green spot along the winding Cirous River,

1094
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:53.000
surrounded by farmland and grassy prairie. No, they can't get

1095
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:55.599
rid of the squirrels, but hope to simply get the

1096
01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:59.519
rodent numbers down. Quote. I don't see the population ever

1097
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:03.360
going to zero. Brighton said, I mean, it's almost impossible

1098
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:05.719
by the numbers that we have. I think that they

1099
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:09.320
have a lobbying organization. By how their politician is talking

1100
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:14.280
about it, hmmm, I see you are. The problem is

1101
01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:20.880
our mayor is owned by by big small squirrel. Yeah,

1102
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:22.400
wake up, people.

1103
01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:24.679
I mean they may be paying taxes we don't know,

1104
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:26.280
I mean, or.

1105
01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:30.800
Just direct bribes. Put another way, minote won't be able

1106
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:33.159
to rid itself of the squirrels because the animals have

1107
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:37.000
lived on the prairie for centuries. Outside of town, predators

1108
01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:41.000
like coyotes, badgers, owls, and even snakes love to dine

1109
01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:44.719
on the squirrels. But in residential neighborhoods and even downtown,

1110
01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:47.639
where few of their predators live, the rodents can roam

1111
01:04:47.639 --> 01:04:50.320
pretty freely. So the answer is to buy a bunch

1112
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:50.880
of snakes.

1113
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:53.960
Yeah, and loose and owls and things.

1114
01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:56.519
They don't want to buy any owls. They're pretty expensive.

1115
01:04:56.960 --> 01:05:00.159
Oh why don't you just go find the owls and

1116
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:01.000
tell them.

1117
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:02.840
To because time is valuable too.

1118
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:12.400
Okay, fine, yay, we'll get snakes to eat them, but

1119
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:14.440
then we'll we'll have all these snakes to deal with.

1120
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:16.760
That's okay. Then we'll get a bunch of gorillas who

1121
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:19.719
thrive on snake meat. But then we'll have a ton

1122
01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:23.679
of gorillas around the winter should kill most of them, Okay,

1123
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:28.880
I guess so, Greg gulliksen An outreach biologists with the

1124
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:32.000
North Dakota Game and Fish Department adds that the squirrels

1125
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:35.440
now have fewer grassland areas available to them, and like

1126
01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:40.440
the mode spots they find in town. Female squirrels typically

1127
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:43.840
give birth to litters of about six babies a year,

1128
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:49.360
so it's easy to see how their numbers can quickly soar. Yeah,

1129
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:51.159
we need to come up with a thing like they're

1130
01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:53.039
doing what they're trying to do with mosquitos, where we

1131
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:56.039
make them, where we like genetically affect them to become impotent,

1132
01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:05.400
kill them all. Yeah, I know you're right. The mosquitoes

1133
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:07.679
can all die, but not these guys.

1134
01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:09.199
No, they live there.

1135
01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:13.199
Herman said. He kills thirty five hundred to five thousand

1136
01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:19.199
of them a year. What that's a lot, primarily by

1137
01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:22.840
putting snares and carbon monoxide into the holes and using

1138
01:06:22.920 --> 01:06:23.719
an air rifle.

1139
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:25.039
Oh my god.

1140
01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:29.800
Quote. I've had calls downtown, calls in the mall, along

1141
01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:32.480
the highways, here at the airport, really every part of

1142
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:34.840
the city. I've done trapping four ground squirrels here in

1143
01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:38.000
the note, Herman said as he checked his traps along

1144
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:41.840
an apartment building and shoveled dirt over holes. Herman says

1145
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:45.400
they damaged driveways, sidewalks and lawns, create tripping hazards with

1146
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:52.280
their holes, and can harbor disease from fleas. What you

1147
01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:54.039
love fleas, don't you?

1148
01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:56.559
No, I don't like fleas. I just think that all

1149
01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:58.880
animals can get fleas, But I don't really think that

1150
01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:01.440
that's something that we can We should be pointing out, you.

1151
01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:04.800
Know, well, the problem is these animals are overly abundant,

1152
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:08.159
so that means the fleas would be closer to us

1153
01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:13.000
to make us sick and our pets too. Along an

1154
01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:16.000
apartment building, the squirrel had dug under a concrete slab

1155
01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:18.639
and against the foundation. Nearby an a vacant lot. The

1156
01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:21.440
rodents popped in and out of the holes. Ground squirrels

1157
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:27.079
near pashone grandson's grandson's ground level apartment dig holes near

1158
01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:29.880
her door and eat her plants. One squirrel even got

1159
01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:31.960
around her baby gate at the door and into her

1160
01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:36.960
daughter's clothes in her bedroom. That's so weird quote. It

1161
01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:39.800
was a little scary. You don't know what disease they carry.

1162
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:42.440
They're dirty. I have a young daughter. I didn't know

1163
01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:45.559
if it was going to bite her. Grandson said see

1164
01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:48.679
this does sound like a bit of a scourge, I.

1165
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:51.320
Don't know, calling them like dirty and all that stuff.

1166
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:55.679
They're like little little animals, like squirrels and like chipmunks.

1167
01:07:55.719 --> 01:07:58.079
They're not going to attack you. They're scared of you.

1168
01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:00.920
They just want to play in your clothes.

1169
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:07.679
Right like just like the bees. North of town, Minote

1170
01:08:07.679 --> 01:08:12.000
Air Force Base, which houses bombers and intercontinental ballistic missiles,

1171
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:14.400
has fought the ground squirrels for years.

1172
01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:16.000
Wow.

1173
01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:18.239
Earlier this month, the base said it had trapped more

1174
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:22.159
than eight hundred dak rats, a base name for the rodents.

1175
01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:24.840
So they have their own slur for the rodents.

1176
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:25.239
Yeah.

1177
01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:26.319
Yeah.

1178
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:31.439
Base officials declined to comment on the squirrels. No comment.

1179
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:35.680
Jared Edwards, facilities director from Minote Public Schools, which has

1180
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:38.840
three schools on the base, said residential areas of the

1181
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:42.840
base and runways are overrun by ground squirrels. He called

1182
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:46.199
it quote a continuous battle for them, with them for

1183
01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:50.199
the last seventy five years since the base has been there.

1184
01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:51.199
Wow.

1185
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:57.279
Quote. I'm not going to exaggerate thereby the millions out there, Edwards.

1186
01:08:56.960 --> 01:09:02.840
Said, I'm mean to get it nice flat area.

1187
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:09.319
Running around in town. Three school properties have large populations

1188
01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:12.119
of ground squirrels. He said last year the school system

1189
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:17.479
began using snares, and for years before that had used poison. Quote.

1190
01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:19.840
It's something you have to keep up with. It's mother nature,

1191
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.880
Edwards said, adding that they've probably been in the area

1192
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:27.600
since homesteaders came through. Still, not everyone sees the squirrels

1193
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:30.760
as a pest. Some find the critters cute and fuzzy,

1194
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:35.960
like serial killers. Now Herman said people have sabotaged, stolen,

1195
01:09:36.119 --> 01:09:40.600
or thrown out his traps m hm. They occasionally confront

1196
01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:42.840
him when he shoots at the ground squirrel squirrels with

1197
01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:46.359
an air rifle, scolding him for hunting the wildlife. He said,

1198
01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:50.239
you want to defend your actions?

1199
01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:52.720
No, I know what I did.

1200
01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:57.840
Quote. They get that cute association and they are, you know, adorable,

1201
01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:00.720
but they're a vermin and a pest and dangerous when

1202
01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:07.119
they are allowed to prolificate or proliferate. Sorry, Herman said,

1203
01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:12.079
I don't, so, I mean you have you want to defend.

1204
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:15.199
You want to defend this. You're you want to defend

1205
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:16.319
these dacrats.

1206
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:20.039
No, we don't. We don't call them slurs.

1207
01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:22.520
Oh sorry, sorry, geez.

1208
01:10:23.399 --> 01:10:26.720
Now I'm really on their side. They're not calling us slurs.

1209
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:35.239
If you don't know what they're saying, that's correct, Okay, okay, okay, fine,

1210
01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:41.600
it does sound like an insane number of squirrels though. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1211
01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:46.359
I'm just saying, maybe we should touch upon our nuclear capabilities.

1212
01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:48.239
Just take down the whole town.

1213
01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:52.119
Well, if it'll get rid of the squirrels, right, it.

1214
01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:54.760
Might not because they're runner around.

1215
01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:59.640
A lot, and we'll have to talk to the to

1216
01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:06.600
the squirrel Keepers Association. Okay, I I feel for them.

1217
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:11.319
I hate having to get rid of pests, but sometimes

1218
01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:13.840
you can't avoid the necessity of it.

1219
01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:17.640
Yeah yeah, I mean.

1220
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:20.199
I have not killed the groundhog. That is like ruining

1221
01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:25.039
my life, even though I really should so, but I'm

1222
01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:28.760
too much of a wimp. I won't do it. So

1223
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:30.800
I just twist my ankle all the time when I'm

1224
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:31.479
mowing my lawn.

1225
01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:35.880
I'm sorry, No, you're not a little bit sorry.

1226
01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:40.479
Well, we're gonna take a quick break and talk about

1227
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:44.359
how in the United Kingdom there's an odd warning going

1228
01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:55.560
out to parents right after this. All right, we're back

1229
01:11:55.680 --> 01:12:02.119
and this article the headline made me uncomfortab okay, so

1230
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:05.039
I'm excited to read it with you because it just

1231
01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:08.359
gave me like this, feeling like a horror movie. This is,

1232
01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:10.960
of course from mirror dot co dot UK.

1233
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:12.760
It's the first one today.

1234
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:17.640
Yeah, we've leaned off them a little bit. HU, don't worry,

1235
01:12:17.680 --> 01:12:20.920
they'll they'll be back. They always come back. But this

1236
01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:26.399
headline warning for UK parents with kids having nightmares to

1237
01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:36.199
quote act differently what I know. Children often do quirky things,

1238
01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:39.880
especially when they're little. But does your child's behavior ever

1239
01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:44.680
seem strange or even unsettling to you? If this sounds familiar,

1240
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:47.840
one of the explanations could be that your youngster has

1241
01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:49.600
gifts that are out of the.

1242
01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:53.439
Ordinary, or maybe they're just weird.

1243
01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:59.800
Were you a gifted child? No, damn must be nice. No,

1244
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:04.720
it was not nice not being gifted. Yeah, I mean,

1245
01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:06.119
like you weren't labeled as gifted.

1246
01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:11.359
Yes, I wasn't labeled as gifted. I was at remedial

1247
01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:13.920
classes really talked about this.

1248
01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:17.159
Yeah, I probably forgot it because it doesn't make any

1249
01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:18.920
sense to me because you're you're smart.

1250
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:23.840
I like it was like specifically for reading and stuff.

1251
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:25.840
I just can't read.

1252
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:29.000
I'm pretty sure you can read.

1253
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:31.760
I mean, I guess I can read now, but I

1254
01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:36.840
couldn't read for a really long time or well, so

1255
01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:40.239
oh okay, yeah I was not. I was not a

1256
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:41.680
gifted kid at all.

1257
01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:45.520
I was in some gifted classes, I know, and I

1258
01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:48.239
dropped out of school. So there you go. Yeah, win,

1259
01:13:48.479 --> 01:13:51.840
you win. I was explaining to a friend who was

1260
01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:55.640
homeschooled the other day how gifted things work, because she

1261
01:13:55.720 --> 01:13:59.800
was like, oh, yeah, you know, like a is it

1262
01:13:59.840 --> 01:14:02.560
hard for gifted kids. I was like, eh, most of them, know,

1263
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.760
because a lot of people end up leaving the gifted

1264
01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:08.880
programs at some point. Like I remember when like a

1265
01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:10.479
ton of us were in there in like third grade,

1266
01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:12.319
and by like seventh or eighth grade, most of us

1267
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:15.760
were not in the gifted programs anymore. Like we just

1268
01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:18.560
got stupid. I guess, you know, we were just dumb.

1269
01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:27.439
They were just like, oh, on second thought, you're a handworker. Yeah, okay, anyway.

1270
01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:34.800
Quote Psychic children are deep thinkers, and people often comment

1271
01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:38.640
that they are in their own little world, alleges Cassandra

1272
01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:41.640
easan author of the Psychic Power of Children and a

1273
01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:45.399
person who'd never heard of imagination. Oh I added the

1274
01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:50.239
last part, but yeah. Quote suffering from nightmares is another

1275
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:55.000
telltale sign. This is about to piss me off, telltale

1276
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:58.439
sign they're picking up on energies around them. Some children

1277
01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:00.880
also see or hear spirits and may not want to

1278
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:03.560
sleep in a particular room or visit a certain place.

1279
01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:08.720
This really pisses me off, because if a kid is

1280
01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:16.399
having night terrors, severe nightmares, sleep paralysis, stuff, hearing it

1281
01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:19.439
might be real is not the thing to.

1282
01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:21.920
Tell them, No, no it's not.

1283
01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:24.800
I'm like, I'm sorry. That really makes me mad. I

1284
01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:29.039
had a friend years ago who she would get that

1285
01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:31.640
feeling of like weight on your chest while she was sleeping,

1286
01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:35.640
and her mother was like kind of cuckoo b and anas,

1287
01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:38.640
and she told her like, that's a spirit like sitting

1288
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:41.039
on your chest, Like, don't let it do that to you,

1289
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:43.720
like you could die, And she was terrified for like

1290
01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:47.000
her entire childhood. Instead of just saying like, that's an

1291
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:50.479
experience some people have when they sleep, you're fine, you know.

1292
01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:57.479
I what you don't when a child has a horrible nightmare,

1293
01:15:57.520 --> 01:15:59.560
you don't sit down with them and go, well, it

1294
01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:04.239
might be real. M h No, No, you tell them

1295
01:16:04.279 --> 01:16:06.239
it wasn't real because it was a friggin nightmare.

1296
01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:10.159
I mean, there is a small percentage of people who

1297
01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:14.600
this is gonna destroy because nobody believes them. But for

1298
01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:17.920
the most part, anything that you have in your dreams

1299
01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:21.439
is not real. It's your dreams, your brain. Your brain's

1300
01:16:21.479 --> 01:16:24.640
doing stuff. Yeah, and you should just sit down with

1301
01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:26.600
your kid and say, hey, this is just how brains work.

1302
01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:30.520
We don't know why. It's kind of scary that we

1303
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:32.920
don't understand it, but it's not not gonna get you.

1304
01:16:33.279 --> 01:16:35.880
It is wild how little we understand about dreams.

1305
01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:37.520
Yeah.

1306
01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:40.920
Over the years, Cassandra, a psychic and self described witch

1307
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:43.399
from the Isle of Wight, which means most people don't

1308
01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:47.600
believe in her. Yeah, a self described witch and me

1309
01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:52.520
described reckless idiot just for legal purposes, so it's understand

1310
01:16:52.520 --> 01:16:55.840
like I described her as a reckless idiot, has been

1311
01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:58.600
contacted via her website and social media by hundreds of

1312
01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:03.479
parents worried about their child unusual abilities. This also makes

1313
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:06.720
me mad because parents are some of the most desperate

1314
01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:10.800
people to do right by their children and to take

1315
01:17:11.039 --> 01:17:13.960
any chance or listen to any advice if it means

1316
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:15.800
they could do a better job at being a parent.

1317
01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:17.000
Yeah.

1318
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:19.359
So I feel like I feel like parents are on

1319
01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:22.640
par with people who've lost a loved one and get

1320
01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:25.760
desperate to like to believe they're somewhere else, or to

1321
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.199
figure out how to move on or whatever. Okay, yeah,

1322
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:31.520
you know, and it's not their fault, like their their

1323
01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:33.760
intentions are good. You know, if you lose someone you love,

1324
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:35.439
or if you're a parent who's worried you're not a

1325
01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:38.720
good enough parent, that's because you want to do well

1326
01:17:38.760 --> 01:17:43.359
by those you love. Yeah, but that desperation can be

1327
01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:47.720
easily taken advantage of by people like this woman. Yeah.

1328
01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:48.600
Yeah, quote.

1329
01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:51.399
I've had parents whose children say they see an elderly

1330
01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:53.760
man or woman in their bedroom who chats to them

1331
01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:57.920
like an imaginary friend. They're later pointed out this grandparent

1332
01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:02.279
in a photo album, and sometimes they even have named them. Yeah, sure, sure,

1333
01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:05.680
you show them a picture? Is this him? Yes? It's

1334
01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:08.560
a child, They're they're suggestible.

1335
01:18:10.239 --> 01:18:13.960
Yeah, I mean i'd have to see what happened to know,

1336
01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:18.600
you know, sure, Like did they name the person the

1337
01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:22.439
same name as their elderly relative without knowing them, or.

1338
01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:25.520
Or because this is all self reported, did they go

1339
01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:29.479
was his name Charlie? And it was because they're freaking

1340
01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:32.640
leading the kid? Sorry, I get annoyed enough when people

1341
01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:34.880
are ripping people off and lying and all this crap.

1342
01:18:35.039 --> 01:18:37.680
But I get really mad when you're a taking advantage

1343
01:18:37.680 --> 01:18:41.199
of people who are desperate and be harming children potentially.

1344
01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:43.479
Yeah, yeah, you seem to not like that. I don't

1345
01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:44.880
know what you're dealing.

1346
01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:48.079
Well, and I get that people will be like, what's

1347
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:51.439
the harm there is? There is a potential harm.

1348
01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:54.159
No, no, I mean they're just kids.

1349
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:57.520
But by But it's not just about that. When you

1350
01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:01.680
encourage someone to believe a fake worldview, you open the

1351
01:19:01.720 --> 01:19:05.960
possibility that they'll be taken advantage by even more dangerous actors.

1352
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:08.920
You run the risk of them believing in faith healers

1353
01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:11.920
and not getting treated for illnesses. There's all kinds of

1354
01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:17.039
possibilities when you don't teach people, especially children, any critical thinking,

1355
01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:19.640
or when you teach people that critical thinking is harmful

1356
01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:22.000
because it told them to not believe in this stuff.

1357
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:25.960
And I know that those are extreme cases, but yes,

1358
01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:31.439
but like people do die because they believe in hocum

1359
01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:34.920
and it leads them to believe in more hocum. And

1360
01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:38.880
some hocum is astrology, and some hocum is drink the

1361
01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:41.600
extract from a peach pit to cure your cancer. Oh well,

1362
01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:45.920
it'll kill you because it's literally poison. So that's where

1363
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:48.720
I lose my sense of humor sometimes with things like this.

1364
01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:52.399
And I really as a child who suffered from sleep

1365
01:19:52.439 --> 01:19:57.479
paralysis my entire childhood. If somebody had told me, oh,

1366
01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:00.880
you're probably seeing ghosts or being abducted by aliens or something,

1367
01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:03.239
I would have had I would have had a horrible

1368
01:20:03.279 --> 01:20:05.000
life trying to sleep every night.

1369
01:20:05.199 --> 01:20:05.760
Yeah.

1370
01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:10.960
Yeah, So now I'm angry about it, and we need

1371
01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:12.680
to take a break so that I could take a

1372
01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:17.159
sip of water and regain my fun, care free composure

1373
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:19.439
because we still eventually, well, we need to try to

1374
01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:23.960
finish this article. Although it's making me very angry. You

1375
01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:26.079
know what, I don't know. I might just we I

1376
01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:29.359
think we're gonna end this article. This is stupid, Okay.

1377
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:31.640
I thought this was going to be a little bit

1378
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:35.079
more exciting, but I don't want to promote this woman's book.

1379
01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:39.520
It mentions her book like eight times. Wow, So love

1380
01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:41.840
every love you guys that listen to the show, I

1381
01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:46.840
think you'll understand. I got pretty angry, so I have

1382
01:20:46.920 --> 01:20:49.359
my reasons. But when we get back, we're going to

1383
01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:51.560
go back to Mirro code I UK for something that

1384
01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:54.720
they're good for. Which is a funeral director describing some

1385
01:20:54.840 --> 01:21:06.640
chilling experiences he's had at work. Right after this, all right,

1386
01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:10.359
we're back with another Mirror dot co dot uk story

1387
01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:14.239
to wrap us up for tonight. This one the headline is,

1388
01:21:14.359 --> 01:21:18.079
I'm a funeral director and these are the chilling experiences

1389
01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:24.239
I've had at work. Would you be a funeral director?

1390
01:21:27.119 --> 01:21:30.880
Probably not, because I don't really like dead people.

1391
01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:34.000
But that's pretty mean. What do they do to you?

1392
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:39.840
I don't know, there's there and they scare me. Probably not.

1393
01:21:40.359 --> 01:21:42.760
Also the other part of being a funeral director is

1394
01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:45.319
you have to like talk to people a lot, and

1395
01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:47.079
they're sad, like really.

1396
01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:53.239
Sad and people.

1397
01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:56.680
No, I don't like when other people are sad. Not

1398
01:21:56.840 --> 01:21:57.600
real people.

1399
01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:03.479
Okay, it's all starting to make sense. I mean in

1400
01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:05.680
your way, in a way, in your way that you

1401
01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:06.279
make sense.

1402
01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:08.960
Yeah, not like said real people.

1403
01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:11.199
I know a lot of people who have thought like

1404
01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:13.119
I'm just going to become a mortician or I'm going

1405
01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:15.079
to work at a funeral home. But I actually had

1406
01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:17.479
a friend who owned a funeral home and he used

1407
01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:19.720
to tell me like that he liked the job. But like,

1408
01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:23.520
you have to really be built for it. He was

1409
01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:26.199
a very like, he was a very nice actually you know,

1410
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:32.880
no joke. His name was Ulysses Grant. I'm serious, yeah,

1411
01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:37.760
I believe you. And he was a very like, a

1412
01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:43.199
very stoic, intense and very gentle, like fifty year old

1413
01:22:43.239 --> 01:22:43.720
black guy.

1414
01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:44.720
Okay.

1415
01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:47.119
And one day we were talking and he mentioned like,

1416
01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:50.239
and uh he had a I forget he was like

1417
01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:51.520
the way he was dressed or something. But I asked.

1418
01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:54.079
I was like, oh, are you a pastor because we

1419
01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:57.399
worked with tons of pastors on local TV. And he

1420
01:22:57.479 --> 01:22:58.880
was like, oh no, no, I'm a I'm a I

1421
01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:03.960
own a funeral home. I was like, oh, okay, So yeah,

1422
01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:05.520
he was actually a really cool guy, one of my

1423
01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:09.039
favorite people at that job. But yeah, I just remember

1424
01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:12.560
when I heard people say we used to call mister Grant,

1425
01:23:12.600 --> 01:23:15.000
and then somebody mentioned his name was Ulysses and I

1426
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:19.199
was like, no, ways, so that's so slick. His parents

1427
01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:25.920
must have been really fun, yeah, Ulysses. If there's any propession, profession,

1428
01:23:26.119 --> 01:23:29.479
profession you'd expect might have come across a ghostly encounter,

1429
01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:32.920
it would be a funeral director, right. That hasn't strictly

1430
01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:35.640
been the case, According to one man in the profession. However,

1431
01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:39.640
Social media's Yorkshire funeral director Jacob Walsh, who is based

1432
01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:44.640
in Gule East Riding of Yorkshire, took to TikTok to

1433
01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:47.960
open up on his experiences with the paranormal at his workplace.

1434
01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:51.880
Quote ghosts, Have I seen them? Have I experienced them?

1435
01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:55.880
He asked rhetorically in a video. I felt a presence,

1436
01:23:56.239 --> 01:23:59.760
usually in the mortuary, which is completely understandable as it's

1437
01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:04.920
where people in my care are resting. Jacob admitted that

1438
01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:08.079
initially he put his chilling experiences down to the fact

1439
01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:11.199
he works late into the day, which by which point

1440
01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:15.399
he's tired. But over time, more and more things have happened,

1441
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:19.800
prompting him to have a rethink. Does working late into

1442
01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:22.800
the day mean working late at night?

1443
01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:29.760
I'm thinking yes, I mean no, but yes, because it

1444
01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:32.079
sounds like that's what that means.

1445
01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:34.479
Because at first of I heard late into the day,

1446
01:24:34.479 --> 01:24:40.079
I'm like, that's not working late if it's still a day. Yeah,

1447
01:24:40.159 --> 01:24:45.640
I'm looking it up. I need to know working late

1448
01:24:45.680 --> 01:24:47.760
in the day is in British slang can be expressed

1449
01:24:47.800 --> 01:24:50.680
in various ways. Oh no, it doesn't. It doesn't seem

1450
01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:55.399
to understand what that Okay, So late in the day,

1451
01:24:56.640 --> 01:25:01.000
according to Mariam Webster, means after the expected or proper time,

1452
01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:05.239
So just means working later than normal.

1453
01:25:07.039 --> 01:25:10.520
Okay, I don't know. Maybe he only works until like four,

1454
01:25:10.680 --> 01:25:13.560
but it's just too much because he gets stuck too much. Well,

1455
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:15.680
maybe he gets up, maybe he starts work. Maybe he's

1456
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:17.319
like a twelve hour day and he starts work at

1457
01:25:17.359 --> 01:25:21.319
four am. Oh and so by the afternoon he's just

1458
01:25:21.399 --> 01:25:22.600
kind of done.

1459
01:25:24.279 --> 01:25:26.800
I like how that's the thing that made us most serious.

1460
01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:32.039
Works late into the day. Quote. I have definitely felt

1461
01:25:32.119 --> 01:25:35.239
people tapping me on the back, he confessed. Now did

1462
01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:37.359
he mean when no one was there? Because that just

1463
01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:41.079
isn't that a confession? Yeah? Or just strange things that

1464
01:25:41.199 --> 01:25:43.560
I can't put my finger on. But as I have

1465
01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:46.359
always said, don't worry about the dead. It's the living

1466
01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:50.640
that will hurt you. I mean, I I mean now,

1467
01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:53.640
I'm like, I'm like, oh, should I go find him

1468
01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:56.880
and beat him up? I'm a living.

1469
01:25:57.439 --> 01:25:59.279
I mean, he knows you're going to hurt him, so

1470
01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:01.920
why would you Why do you need to prove him right?

1471
01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:05.800
Why not prove him wrong and not hurt him, like.

1472
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:10.600
You say, by killing yourself and then hurting him way

1473
01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:15.439
to do it. Yeah, but why would a spirit tap

1474
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:18.880
him on the shoulder. Jacob explained his belief quote, I

1475
01:26:18.920 --> 01:26:21.319
think it must mean it's a reassurance that I'm doing

1476
01:26:21.399 --> 01:26:24.279
right by them, and that's all that matters. We always

1477
01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:26.279
talk to the people in my care. We wish them

1478
01:26:26.279 --> 01:26:28.560
good morning, and every night I say good night to them.

1479
01:26:29.079 --> 01:26:31.319
A little weird, I don't. That's not why I tap

1480
01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:33.000
people on shoulders, not to let them know they're doing

1481
01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:35.800
a good job. It's to get their attention exactly. Yeah,

1482
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:44.039
you know, and you guys, you guys can't see Michelle,

1483
01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:47.920
she was like miming the violence, and then I go

1484
01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:53.439
and say it, making me sound like the crazy one. Yeah.

1485
01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:56.439
He added that even when he's quote doing personal care

1486
01:26:56.600 --> 01:26:59.800
such as shaving deceased gentleman, he tells them what he's

1487
01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:03.479
doing out of respect. Jacob summarized, quote, So if they

1488
01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:05.920
are watching over us, that's fine. We just don't know

1489
01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:08.279
what's in the afterlife, and I'm not here to tell

1490
01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:11.600
you what I think there is or isn't writing. In response,

1491
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:15.079
another funeral director revealed quote, I have heard footsteps in

1492
01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:19.039
our mortuary early hours of the morning, and a second

1493
01:27:19.079 --> 01:27:22.000
shared quote having worked alone in different branches of our

1494
01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:25.359
funeral homes. I have definitely heard walking upstairs when I'm

1495
01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:29.279
on my own. Never been scared though. Wow, he's that's

1496
01:27:29.279 --> 01:27:31.239
a chad, Like what an absolute chad?

1497
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:32.239
Yeah.

1498
01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:35.720
A third person detailed their experience, quote, my dad passed

1499
01:27:35.800 --> 01:27:38.159
last Saturday, and I've come to my mom's house as

1500
01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:40.399
she needed me and my sister. I could feel my

1501
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:43.319
dad's presence. This is my first experience with it. He

1502
01:27:43.359 --> 01:27:47.399
died suddenly, so it's a shock. And a fourth TikTok

1503
01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:50.359
user recalled, quote, my mom blew a light bulb in

1504
01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:53.039
the funeral parlor, and when the funeral director got up

1505
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:55.640
to change it, it came back on and she said,

1506
01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:58.720
that's strange. But I said, my mom was a medium

1507
01:27:58.960 --> 01:28:02.840
and has sent me message. What oh, I think they

1508
01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:07.920
forgot to mention his mother was dead, I guess, because

1509
01:28:07.920 --> 01:28:09.640
that's how she would blow out a light bulb in

1510
01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:10.520
the funeral parlor.

1511
01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:13.359
But didn't she also say words.

1512
01:28:13.560 --> 01:28:17.079
Oh no, that was a different user. Oh okay, yeah,

1513
01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:19.399
that was before my mum's house thing. This is no.

1514
01:28:19.560 --> 01:28:22.359
This is a fourth TikToker who said my mum blew

1515
01:28:22.359 --> 01:28:23.920
a light bulb in the funeral parlor, and when the

1516
01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:25.720
funeral director got up to change it, it came back

1517
01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:28.279
on and she said that strange. Oh you just assumed

1518
01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:31.319
the funeral director can't be a woman. Huh, No, you

1519
01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:35.840
are the problem. Cell. It's not Dallappole that hates women.

1520
01:28:35.880 --> 01:28:36.960
I think it's you.

1521
01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:40.640
No, I don't even think that that ghosts aren't real.

1522
01:28:41.199 --> 01:28:42.279
Probably I don't know.

1523
01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:49.479
Okay, all right. Many others praised Jacob for showing such

1524
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:52.199
dignity in his profession, one of whom said, quote, you

1525
01:28:52.239 --> 01:28:54.920
are an amazing man with so much empathy. That's why

1526
01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:57.760
they say thank you by tapping you. I'm gonna start

1527
01:28:57.760 --> 01:28:59.920
tapping people to thank them for things and see if

1528
01:28:59.880 --> 01:29:00.479
it works.

1529
01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:03.520
Maybe you should morse code what you need?

1530
01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:07.399
Yeah to tap, tap, tap to tap, tap to to that, tap,

1531
01:29:07.439 --> 01:29:10.439
tap to tap. It's pretty much morse code. Right, what

1532
01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:14.000
are you? What are you tapping on your shoulder right now? Oh?

1533
01:29:14.039 --> 01:29:16.399
Oh god, that's not a good thing to hear.

1534
01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:20.840
Yeah, that's why I'm gonna tap on people's shoulders.

1535
01:29:22.239 --> 01:29:27.000
Well, since we've had our little chilling experience in mortuaryism,

1536
01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:29.520
I'm gonna say that like it's a word. When we

1537
01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:31.840
get back, we're going to talk about something a bit hotter,

1538
01:29:32.319 --> 01:29:37.239
a bit more human, as we learn about spontaneous human combustion.

1539
01:29:38.319 --> 01:29:51.199
After this, Michelle, Yes, do you remember when you first

1540
01:29:51.359 --> 01:29:56.880
heard about spontaneous human combustion? No, well, what do you

1541
01:29:57.039 --> 01:30:06.119
know about it? You go on, that's that's all you

1542
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:07.560
that's all you know about it.

1543
01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:09.600
What else am I supposed to know about it?

1544
01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:12.479
I don't know. I just thought maybe you had, like

1545
01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:15.760
some all I've What I've really learned from doing the

1546
01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:18.399
show is how much of my life I've wasted on

1547
01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:24.039
like really stupid, like like weird folklore and urban legends.

1548
01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:26.960
Because I'll be like, Michelle, what do you know about

1549
01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:29.560
you know, uh, the Sasquatch? You like, Ay, he's got

1550
01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:33.319
a big foot, And I'm like, oh, because I know

1551
01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:34.199
a lot about him.

1552
01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:39.479
I mean, I don't know anything. And then that's what's

1553
01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:40.000
going on.

1554
01:30:40.279 --> 01:30:46.840
I don't think that's true. Whatever. Okay, So well, since

1555
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:51.720
you are a novice to spontaneous human combustion and I've

1556
01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:55.039
watched a few documentaries about it throughout my wasted life

1557
01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:59.560
learning about these things, I figured we go to the

1558
01:30:59.640 --> 01:31:03.880
ultimate source of all information that is totally infallible, Wikipedia

1559
01:31:05.039 --> 01:31:07.760
and we dig in on spontaneous human combustion a bit,

1560
01:31:08.079 --> 01:31:14.760
learn something, or die trying in a fire. So Spontaneous

1561
01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:19.000
human combustion is the pseudoscientific concept of spontaneous combustion of

1562
01:31:19.039 --> 01:31:23.159
a living or recently deceased human body without an apparent

1563
01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:26.600
external source of ignition on the body. In addition to

1564
01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:30.479
reported cases, descriptions of the alleged phenomena appear in literature,

1565
01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:34.239
and both types have been observed to share common characteristics

1566
01:31:34.520 --> 01:31:39.920
in terms of circumstances and remains of the victim. Scientific

1567
01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:43.920
investigations have attempted to analyze reported instances of spontaneous human

1568
01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:49.680
combustion and have resulted in hypotheses regarding potential causes and mechanisms,

1569
01:31:49.720 --> 01:31:54.800
including victim behavior and habit, alcohol consumption, and proximity to

1570
01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:58.439
potential sources of ignition, as well as the behavior of

1571
01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:03.840
fires that consume melted fats. I mentioned that before, which

1572
01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:06.560
by melted fats was my name when I was a

1573
01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:07.199
jazz player.

1574
01:32:07.600 --> 01:32:10.760
That's pretty cool, thank you. Yeah.

1575
01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:14.720
Natural explanations, as well as unverified natural phenomena, have been

1576
01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:19.039
proposed to explain reports of spontaneous human combustion. The current

1577
01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:24.680
scientific consensus is that purported cases involve overlooked external sources

1578
01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:32.359
of ignition. Yeah, geez okay. Spontaneous human combustion refers to

1579
01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:34.760
the death from a fire originating without an apparent external

1580
01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:38.800
source of ignition. Obviously. This idea and the term spontaneous

1581
01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:43.760
human combustion were both first proposed in seventeen forty six

1582
01:32:43.880 --> 01:32:47.439
by Paul Rowley, a fellow of the Royal Society, in

1583
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:52.119
an article published in the Philosophical Transactions concerning the mysterious

1584
01:32:52.159 --> 01:32:57.600
death of Countess Cornelia Zengheri Bondi Hmmm. Writing in the

1585
01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:02.039
British Medical Journal in nineteen thirty eight, Gavin Thurston describes

1586
01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:06.000
the phenomena as having quote apparently attracted the attention not

1587
01:33:06.079 --> 01:33:09.000
only of the medical profession but of the non medical

1588
01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:13.359
professionals one hundred years ago, referring to a fictional account

1589
01:33:13.560 --> 01:33:17.960
published in eighteen thirty four in the Frederick Marriatt Cycle

1590
01:33:18.680 --> 01:33:21.279
in this In his nineteen ninety five book A Blaze

1591
01:33:21.880 --> 01:33:24.880
That's a great title, it has an exclamation point good

1592
01:33:24.920 --> 01:33:29.960
A Blaze. Larry E. Arnold, the director of Paras Science International,

1593
01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:33.880
wrote that there had been about two hundred cited reports

1594
01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:38.439
of spontaneous human combustion worldwide, over a period of around

1595
01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:40.279
three hundred years.

1596
01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:43.720
Okay, that's less than one a year, So.

1597
01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:45.319
That make you feel a little bit better, more like

1598
01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:53.199
you're safe. No, okay, all right, well this might help.

1599
01:33:53.319 --> 01:33:57.359
Here are some characteristics of people who suffer from spontaneous

1600
01:33:57.399 --> 01:34:02.199
human combustion. So the topic received coverage in the British

1601
01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:04.359
Medical Journal in nineteen thirty eight. An article by La

1602
01:34:04.479 --> 01:34:08.640
Perry cited an eighteen twenty three published book Medical Jurisprudence,

1603
01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:12.880
which stated that commonalities among recorded cases of spontaneous human

1604
01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:19.520
combustion included the following. Number One victims are chronic alcoholics.

1605
01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:23.600
Oh oh, I see what happens.

1606
01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:30.720
That's probably not you. Number two there man, They are

1607
01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:39.880
usually elderly females. Really yeah wow yeah. Number three the

1608
01:34:39.920 --> 01:34:44.359
body has not burned spontaneously, but some lighted substance has

1609
01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:51.119
come into contact with it. Uh huh, so okay. Number

1610
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:54.840
four the hands and feet usually fall off. That I've

1611
01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:57.239
seen the photos where it's just hands and feet are

1612
01:34:57.239 --> 01:34:59.840
all that's left in a big smoldering spot.

1613
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:01.399
I wonder why that is.

1614
01:35:02.439 --> 01:35:05.079
I assume that there's very little fat in the part

1615
01:35:05.079 --> 01:35:05.960
of the body.

1616
01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:08.680
So it just falls off because everything else burns around it.

1617
01:35:09.279 --> 01:35:14.680
That's my gas. Number five, the fire has caused very

1618
01:35:14.720 --> 01:35:20.199
little damage to combustible things in contact with the body.

1619
01:35:20.359 --> 01:35:23.560
That's one thing is it tends to be very like isolated,

1620
01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:27.159
localized a good word for it. And number six, the

1621
01:35:27.159 --> 01:35:29.800
combustion of the body has left a residue of greasy

1622
01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:33.600
and fetid ashes and a very offensive odor.

1623
01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:35.279
Yeah.

1624
01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:40.159
That's I gotta be honest. I gotta be honest. You

1625
01:35:40.239 --> 01:35:43.000
gotta hope, right because, like, imagine if it was like

1626
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:46.319
and the weirdest part of spontaneous human combustion just smells terrific.

1627
01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:48.319
Yeah.

1628
01:35:48.359 --> 01:35:49.960
That's how you know you're in trouble, because you get

1629
01:35:50.119 --> 01:35:52.039
you get a report, like there's a fire in a building,

1630
01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:54.520
and the moment you open the door, it smells wonderful

1631
01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:58.560
and you're like, oh fuck, somebody has been spontaneously human combusted.

1632
01:35:58.359 --> 01:36:01.000
And instead of like ashes, it's just flower.

1633
01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:07.159
Pedals, beautiful flower pedals. Yeah, next to the hands and feet.

1634
01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:09.640
Yeah.

1635
01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:12.800
An extensive two and a half year research project involving

1636
01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:17.039
thirty historical cases of alleged spontaneous human combustion from seventeen

1637
01:36:17.079 --> 01:36:21.119
twenty five to nineteen eighty two was conducted by Science

1638
01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:24.319
investigator Joe Nickel one of my favorite guys. I've read

1639
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:28.199
his books. They're really good. He was, for over thirty

1640
01:36:28.279 --> 01:36:31.359
years the only full time paranormal investigator in the world.

1641
01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:32.399
Wow.

1642
01:36:32.920 --> 01:36:35.479
Dana Scully was loosely based on him in X Files.

1643
01:36:35.640 --> 01:36:40.720
Oh Cool, and forensic analyst John F. Fisher I don't

1644
01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:43.960
know him. Their lengthy two part report was published in

1645
01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:47.680
nineteen eighty four in the Journal of the International Association

1646
01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:52.760
of Arson Investigators and incorporated into their nineteen eighty eight

1647
01:36:52.760 --> 01:36:56.159
book Secrets of the Supernatural, which is a really good book.

1648
01:36:56.920 --> 01:37:01.319
Nickel has written frequently on the subject, appeared to television documentaries,

1649
01:37:01.359 --> 01:37:04.359
conducted additional research, and lectured at the New York State

1650
01:37:04.399 --> 01:37:07.920
Academy of Fire Science at montor Falls, New York as

1651
01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:12.920
a guest instructure astructor. The Nickel and Fisher investigation, which

1652
01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:15.680
looked at cases in the eighteenth, nineteenth and twentieth century,

1653
01:37:15.760 --> 01:37:19.239
showed that the burned cadavers were close to plausible sources

1654
01:37:19.239 --> 01:37:23.279
of ignition i e. Candles, lamps, fireplaces, and so on,

1655
01:37:23.800 --> 01:37:26.840
so such sources were often omitted from published accounts of

1656
01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:31.520
these incidents, presumably to deepen the aura of mystery. Surrounding

1657
01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:33.880
an apparently spontaneous death.

1658
01:37:34.439 --> 01:37:38.079
Right, that makes sense. I mean it's not smart not

1659
01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:39.479
to leave out details.

1660
01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:40.279
Stock. No.

1661
01:37:40.680 --> 01:37:42.279
Yeah.

1662
01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:45.520
The investigators also found that there was a correlation between

1663
01:37:45.520 --> 01:37:49.800
alleged spontaneous human combustion deaths and the victims intoxication or

1664
01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:54.840
other forms of incapacitation, which could conceivably have caused them

1665
01:37:54.840 --> 01:38:00.359
to be careless and unable to respond properly to an accident. Yeah.

1666
01:38:00.520 --> 01:38:02.159
This is one thing I've always found interesting because I've

1667
01:38:02.159 --> 01:38:04.000
heard people say, like, oh, the alcohol might have made

1668
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:09.159
them burn, maybe, but more likely, being super duper drunk

1669
01:38:09.239 --> 01:38:12.319
made them unable to react properly to being on fire.

1670
01:38:12.800 --> 01:38:15.640
Yeah, and also made them more likely to stand near

1671
01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:19.239
things that were going to light them on fire.

1672
01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:21.840
Oh, because the alcohol would catch on fire.

1673
01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:24.640
Oh no, no, no, because they're drunk, so they're not

1674
01:38:24.640 --> 01:38:27.680
paying attention. Oh, standing near a candle or something, or

1675
01:38:27.760 --> 01:38:28.239
knocking something.

1676
01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:28.840
I got you.

1677
01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:31.039
Yeah.

1678
01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:34.359
So let's see where was I Where the destruction of

1679
01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:37.479
the body was not particularly extensive, A primary source of

1680
01:38:37.520 --> 01:38:41.560
combustible fuel could plausibly have been the victim's clothing or

1681
01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:46.600
a covering such as a blanket or comforter. However, where

1682
01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:50.359
the destruction was extensive. Additional fuel sources were involved, such

1683
01:38:50.399 --> 01:38:54.359
as chair stuffing, floor coverings, the flooring itself, and the like.

1684
01:38:55.119 --> 01:38:59.000
The investigators described how such materials helped to retain melted fat,

1685
01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:01.439
which could cause more of the body to be burned

1686
01:39:01.479 --> 01:39:05.840
and destroyed, yielding still more liquefied fat in a cyclic

1687
01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:10.800
process known as the wick effect or the candle effect.

1688
01:39:11.680 --> 01:39:13.680
I like how bothered you looked when I said the

1689
01:39:13.720 --> 01:39:14.479
wick effect.

1690
01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:17.920
Yeah, but I like that both of them are basically

1691
01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:20.800
the wick and the candle effect, or like, that's almost

1692
01:39:20.840 --> 01:39:24.439
exactly the same thing. Oh yeah, I mean, like it's

1693
01:39:24.479 --> 01:39:27.720
the same. It's like, yeah, it's the same.

1694
01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:29.159
It's basically a candle. It's just you.

1695
01:39:29.560 --> 01:39:31.399
Yeah. Yeah.

1696
01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:33.039
Well, we're going to take a quick break and we'll

1697
01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:44.720
dive further into some fiery explanations right after this, we're

1698
01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:51.039
back looking further into the investigation of spontaneous human combustion. Michelle,

1699
01:39:51.039 --> 01:39:53.520
how you doing temperature wise? You're feeling a little warm now?

1700
01:39:54.159 --> 01:39:55.560
No, it's okay in here.

1701
01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:59.880
Okay, good. According to the Nickel and Fisher investigation, near

1702
01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:04.239
objects often remained undamaged because fire tends to burn upwards,

1703
01:40:04.880 --> 01:40:09.039
but burns laterally with some difficulty. The fires in question

1704
01:40:09.079 --> 01:40:12.800
are relatively small, achieving considerable destruction via the Wick effect,

1705
01:40:13.199 --> 01:40:15.560
and nearby objects may not be close enough to catch

1706
01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:19.000
fire themselves, much as one can closely approach a modest

1707
01:40:19.039 --> 01:40:23.680
campfire without burning. As with other mysteries, Nicol and Fisher

1708
01:40:23.720 --> 01:40:29.319
cautioned against a single, simplistic explanation for all unusual burning deaths,

1709
01:40:29.359 --> 01:40:35.079
but rather urged investigating on an individual basis. Neurologist Stephen Novella,

1710
01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:40.279
I've met Stephen Novella. Yeah, he was at the George

1711
01:40:40.359 --> 01:40:44.359
rob concert that you came and saw me at. Oh, yeah,

1712
01:40:44.399 --> 01:40:48.439
he was there has said that skepticism about spontaneous human

1713
01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:52.439
combustion is now bleeding over into popular skepticism about spontaneous

1714
01:40:52.479 --> 01:40:57.560
combustion in general. There are people who there are theories that, like,

1715
01:40:57.680 --> 01:41:02.680
some things just explode to fire, not just people.

1716
01:41:03.319 --> 01:41:09.079
Yeah. So like rags that have stuff on it that

1717
01:41:09.159 --> 01:41:13.119
you clean your oh yeah, paints.

1718
01:41:12.720 --> 01:41:15.560
From, Oh, like acetone.

1719
01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:17.680
I don't know if it's acidon. I don't think it.

1720
01:41:18.680 --> 01:41:20.680
I don't know. I'm not a doctor.

1721
01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:23.119
Mineral spirit oh yeah.

1722
01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:27.000
Mineral spirits. In a two thousand and two study, A GM.

1723
01:41:27.079 --> 01:41:30.880
Christensen of the University of Tennessee cremated both healthy and

1724
01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:35.520
osteoporotic samples of human bone and compared the resulting color

1725
01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:40.439
changes in fragmentation. The study found that osteoporotic bone samples

1726
01:41:40.520 --> 01:41:44.520
quote consistently displayed more discoloration and a greater degree of

1727
01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:48.159
fragmentation than healthy ones. The same study found that when

1728
01:41:48.199 --> 01:41:51.279
human tissue is burned, the resulting flame produces a small

1729
01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:54.159
amount of heat, indicating that the fire is unlikely to

1730
01:41:54.239 --> 01:41:56.319
spread from burning tissue.

1731
01:41:56.680 --> 01:41:56.800
Hm.

1732
01:41:59.079 --> 01:42:04.079
Okay, so we're kind of we're kind of. It sounds

1733
01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:06.880
like people are just being set on fire, which is worrisome,

1734
01:42:07.279 --> 01:42:10.399
whether it's by other people or by themselves. I remember

1735
01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:15.359
I read about one woman who they believe that someone

1736
01:42:15.479 --> 01:42:18.880
had poured a whole bottle of her perfume on her

1737
01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:21.119
delight or on fire so that she would die in

1738
01:42:21.159 --> 01:42:30.359
her sleep. Hyah, isn't that just a delight? So Benjamin Radford,

1739
01:42:30.399 --> 01:42:33.520
science writer and deputy editor of the science magazine Skeptical Inquirer,

1740
01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:36.920
cast doubt on the plausibility of spontaneous human combustion. And

1741
01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:41.560
remember that that that's referring to no external flame source. Yeah,

1742
01:42:42.039 --> 01:42:44.800
if spontaneous human combustion is a real phenomenon, not the

1743
01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:47.640
result of an elderly or infirm person being too close

1744
01:42:47.680 --> 01:42:50.680
to a flame source. Why doesn't it happen more often?

1745
01:42:51.039 --> 01:42:53.760
There are eight billion people in the world as of

1746
01:42:53.800 --> 01:42:57.680
today twenty four, twenty four, and yet we don't see

1747
01:42:57.680 --> 01:43:00.960
reports of people bursting into flame while walking down the street,

1748
01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:04.720
attending football games, or sipping coffee at a local Starbucks.

1749
01:43:06.399 --> 01:43:09.439
It's probably true, unless they're just hiding it from us.

1750
01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:13.560
They could be hiding it. Yeah, So here are some

1751
01:43:13.760 --> 01:43:19.720
natural explanations suggested for spontaneous human combustion. Almost all postulated

1752
01:43:19.720 --> 01:43:22.600
cases of spontaneous human combustion involve people with low mobility

1753
01:43:22.680 --> 01:43:25.359
due to advanced age or obesity, along with poor health.

1754
01:43:25.760 --> 01:43:27.920
Victims show a high likelihood of having died in their

1755
01:43:27.920 --> 01:43:30.159
sleep or having been unable to move once they had

1756
01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:34.880
caught fire. Smoking is often seen as the source of fire.

1757
01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:37.840
Natural causes such as heart attacks may lead to the

1758
01:43:37.920 --> 01:43:42.039
victim dying, subsequently dropping the cigarette, which, after a period

1759
01:43:42.039 --> 01:43:46.199
of smoldering, can ignite the victim's clothes. Okay, that would

1760
01:43:46.199 --> 01:43:49.119
make sense too, because smoking has decreased a lot and

1761
01:43:49.199 --> 01:43:52.479
people and the people who do smoke much less smoke

1762
01:43:52.600 --> 01:43:56.520
in their homes and way less smoke in bed because

1763
01:43:56.560 --> 01:43:58.520
it used to be a thing to smoke in bed,

1764
01:43:58.560 --> 01:44:02.680
which is wild to imagine. Yeah, just smoking a cigarette

1765
01:44:02.680 --> 01:44:07.000
and bed. So uh. And then of course there was

1766
01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:10.640
the wick effect we just talked about. We pretty much

1767
01:44:10.680 --> 01:44:14.960
went through that whole thing. Scalding can cause burn like injuries,

1768
01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:18.640
sometimes leading to death without setting fire to clothing, although

1769
01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:21.960
not applicable in cases where the body is charred and burnt.

1770
01:44:22.199 --> 01:44:24.359
This has been suggested as a cause and at least

1771
01:44:24.399 --> 01:44:30.079
one claimed spontaneous human combustion like event. Okay. Brian J.

1772
01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:35.000
Ford Is suggested that ketosis, possibly caused by alcoholism or

1773
01:44:35.039 --> 01:44:40.000
low carb dieting, produces acetone, which is highly flammable and

1774
01:44:40.079 --> 01:44:45.199
could therefore lead to a parent spontaneous combustion. That's pretty

1775
01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:49.079
far fetched. Yeah, if you have you ever tasted something

1776
01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:53.880
like acetone coming out of your mouth. No, So when

1777
01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:57.039
you go through ketosis when you're losing weight, you know,

1778
01:44:57.159 --> 01:45:00.199
quickly sometimes you get like a weird taste in your

1779
01:45:00.239 --> 01:45:03.279
mouth that's kind of acetone and it's just basic. It's

1780
01:45:03.359 --> 01:45:09.319
like acetone and it's basically just it's your system processing

1781
01:45:09.359 --> 01:45:13.560
fat can cause that. But that it would have to

1782
01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:19.279
be pretty intense for that to be flammable. Spontaneous human

1783
01:45:19.279 --> 01:45:22.079
combustion can be confused with self immolation as a form

1784
01:45:22.079 --> 01:45:25.680
of suicide. In the West, simple self immolation accounts for

1785
01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:31.279
one percent of suicides, while Radford claims in developing countries

1786
01:45:31.279 --> 01:45:38.920
the figure can be as high as forty percent. Geese, Yeah,

1787
01:45:39.319 --> 01:45:42.960
sometimes there are reasonable explanations for the deaths, but proponents

1788
01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:47.199
ignore official autopsies and contradictory evidence in favor of anecdotal

1789
01:45:47.239 --> 01:45:52.199
accounts and personal testimonies. And another one is inhaling slash.

1790
01:45:52.239 --> 01:45:55.960
Digesting phosphorus in different forms may lead to the formation

1791
01:45:56.000 --> 01:46:00.560
of phosphine, which can auto ignite. I don't know a

1792
01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:04.520
lot about phosphorus or why you would eat it or

1793
01:46:04.520 --> 01:46:06.359
inhale it. I guess you could inhale it because it's

1794
01:46:06.359 --> 01:46:12.800
a dust. I guess what you want me to look up? Phosphorus?

1795
01:46:12.800 --> 01:46:13.720
Do you need to understand?

1796
01:46:13.920 --> 01:46:17.239
No, it's okay.

1797
01:46:18.399 --> 01:46:20.920
I mean it's an element that can be highly flammable.

1798
01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:23.359
I didn't know a ton about it either, I just

1799
01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:25.920
had to look it up quick. But here are some

1800
01:46:26.680 --> 01:46:31.479
alternative hypotheses. Larry E. Arnold in his nineteen ninety five

1801
01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:37.680
book A Blaze proposes a pseudoscientific new sub atomic particle,

1802
01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:44.000
which he called pyrotron. You like that, Yes, it's a

1803
01:46:44.039 --> 01:46:49.319
pretty good name, pyrotron. Arnold also wrote that the flammability

1804
01:46:49.359 --> 01:46:52.479
of a human body could be increased by certain circumstances,

1805
01:46:52.520 --> 01:46:56.000
like increased alcohol in the blood. It would have to

1806
01:46:56.039 --> 01:46:58.479
be a lot of alcohol, because like when you're really drunk,

1807
01:46:58.520 --> 01:47:02.079
your blood is less than one percent alcohol, Like it's

1808
01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:06.840
like what point three or point two percent? Point wait?

1809
01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:10.720
What is well? I need to find out what is

1810
01:47:10.920 --> 01:47:17.600
the legal limit of point oh eight? So less than

1811
01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:21.560
one percent blood alcohol makes you or less way less

1812
01:47:21.600 --> 01:47:25.039
than one percent makes you legally drunk. So you would

1813
01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:28.119
have to be drinking an amount that could like literally

1814
01:47:28.199 --> 01:47:34.079
kill you. Yeah, so yeah, that one's a little weird.

1815
01:47:34.279 --> 01:47:37.560
He further proposed that extreme stress could be the trigger

1816
01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:42.000
that starts many combustions. Wow, this process may use no

1817
01:47:42.119 --> 01:47:44.880
external oxygen to spread throughout the body, since it may

1818
01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:50.600
not be an oxidation reduction reaction. However, no reaction mechanism

1819
01:47:50.680 --> 01:47:55.239
has been proposed. Researcher Joe Nichol has criticized arnolds hypothesis

1820
01:47:55.439 --> 01:47:59.800
as based on selective evidence and argument from ignorance. Bamn.

1821
01:48:00.159 --> 01:48:02.439
Joe Nichols always got those, so he's ready to slam

1822
01:48:02.479 --> 01:48:05.800
down on y'all. In his nineteen seventy to six book

1823
01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:09.920
Fire from Heaven, UK, writer Michael Harrison suggests spontaneous human

1824
01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:15.359
combustion is connected to poltergeist activity. Okay, this is my

1825
01:48:15.439 --> 01:48:19.159
favorite is when it'll be like, how do we explain

1826
01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:23.600
something ridiculous, We'll go with something else ridiculous, like, you know,

1827
01:48:23.640 --> 01:48:26.760
how do we explain you know, how do we explain

1828
01:48:26.800 --> 01:48:29.800
people suddenly catching on fire? What if unicorns are lighting

1829
01:48:29.800 --> 01:48:33.640
them on fire? That's what the argument sounds like to

1830
01:48:33.680 --> 01:48:36.239
me when you say, like, we'll bring a poltergeist into this,

1831
01:48:37.239 --> 01:48:40.479
because he argues, quote the force which activates the poltergeist

1832
01:48:40.479 --> 01:48:44.359
originates in and is supplied by a human being. Within

1833
01:48:44.399 --> 01:48:48.520
the concluding summary, Harrison writes, fatal or non fatal spontaneous

1834
01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:53.159
human commustion belongs to the extensive range of poltergeist phenomena.

1835
01:48:53.800 --> 01:48:56.279
But poltergeist are literally able to move things around. Why

1836
01:48:56.279 --> 01:48:59.000
don't they just like grab a candle and light you

1837
01:48:59.039 --> 01:49:01.359
on fire. They could just do.

1838
01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:06.000
That because it's easier to I don't know, maybe that's

1839
01:49:06.039 --> 01:49:08.199
what's happening answer.

1840
01:49:07.880 --> 01:49:09.600
Me, damn it.

1841
01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:12.359
It could still be what's happening, though the poldergeist comes

1842
01:49:12.439 --> 01:49:14.000
and it just throws a candle.

1843
01:49:13.720 --> 01:49:20.880
On you, okay. John Abrahamson suggested that ball lightning this

1844
01:49:21.039 --> 01:49:25.680
is just like like this. There should be one that's

1845
01:49:25.720 --> 01:49:29.239
just unicorns, do it, that ball lightning could account for

1846
01:49:29.279 --> 01:49:33.279
spontaneous human combustion. Quote this is circumstantial only, but the

1847
01:49:33.359 --> 01:49:35.439
charring of human limbs seen in a number of ball

1848
01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:39.199
lightning cases are very suggestive that this mechanism may also

1849
01:49:39.239 --> 01:49:42.840
have occurred where people have had limbs combusted. I'm pretty

1850
01:49:42.880 --> 01:49:46.640
sure ball lightning is like, basically not real.

1851
01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:50.279
Ball lightning is real, Oh.

1852
01:49:49.880 --> 01:49:53.880
Is a rare and unexplained phenomenon described as luminescent spherical objects.

1853
01:49:56.760 --> 01:50:00.159
I wonder I don't know if it's proven real or not, though.

1854
01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:03.079
I'm pretty sure it's real. It's just really really rare.

1855
01:50:06.239 --> 01:50:08.680
Okay, I'll give you this. There's a lot of hypothesis

1856
01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:13.279
about it, Yeah, over fifteen major hypothesis of what's causing it.

1857
01:50:13.640 --> 01:50:15.399
So we're gonna take a quick break and then we're

1858
01:50:15.399 --> 01:50:20.560
gonna go through some famous examples of spontaneous human combustion

1859
01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:30.439
before we wrap things up. Right after this all right.

1860
01:50:30.520 --> 01:50:34.760
Before we wrap up our conversation about spontaneous human combustion,

1861
01:50:35.840 --> 01:50:38.239
we want to talk about some famous examples that have

1862
01:50:38.319 --> 01:50:42.720
been investigated as as such. And I won't show you

1863
01:50:42.760 --> 01:50:46.439
the pictures of the random hands and feet Michelle, Okay, thanks,

1864
01:50:46.720 --> 01:50:47.680
it's very upsetting.

1865
01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:49.960
Yeah.

1866
01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:51.920
So the first one is on the second of July

1867
01:50:52.039 --> 01:50:55.319
nineteen fifty one, Mary Reeser, a sixty seven year old woman,

1868
01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:58.920
was found burned to death in her house in Saint Petersburg, Florida,

1869
01:50:59.199 --> 01:51:03.239
after her land noted that the house's doorknob was unusually warm.

1870
01:51:04.079 --> 01:51:04.319
Hmmm.

1871
01:51:05.840 --> 01:51:08.560
The landlady notified the police, and upon entering the home,

1872
01:51:08.600 --> 01:51:12.560
they found Reeser's remains completely burned into ash, with only

1873
01:51:12.680 --> 01:51:17.920
one leg remaining. She The chair she was sitting in

1874
01:51:18.079 --> 01:51:21.920
was also destroyed. Reeser had been taking sleeping pills and

1875
01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:26.720
had also been a smoker. Despite its proliferation in popular culture,

1876
01:51:26.760 --> 01:51:31.039
the contemporary FBI investigation ruled out the possibility of spontaneous

1877
01:51:31.079 --> 01:51:33.960
human combustion. A common theory was that she was smoking

1878
01:51:33.960 --> 01:51:36.800
a cigarette after taking sleeping pills and then fell asleep

1879
01:51:36.840 --> 01:51:40.119
while still holding the burning cigarette, which could have ignited

1880
01:51:40.119 --> 01:51:44.479
her gown, ultimately leading to her death, Her daughter in

1881
01:51:44.560 --> 01:51:47.359
law stated quote the cigarette dropped to her lap. Her

1882
01:51:47.399 --> 01:51:49.800
fat was the fuel that kept her burning. The floor

1883
01:51:49.840 --> 01:51:52.399
was cement and the chair was by itself. There was

1884
01:51:52.439 --> 01:51:57.439
nothing around her to burn. M I will say about

1885
01:51:57.479 --> 01:52:01.319
the photograph, she must have lived in a like It

1886
01:52:01.359 --> 01:52:05.520
appears she was sitting like in her bathroom, the burned

1887
01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:07.239
up chair in the remains. You can see a toilet

1888
01:52:07.239 --> 01:52:10.560
in the sink. Oh, she may have lived in like

1889
01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:12.960
a really small, like depressing place.

1890
01:52:13.119 --> 01:52:15.640
Yeah, I was gonna say, and also definitely didn't have

1891
01:52:15.720 --> 01:52:16.680
like a smoke detector.

1892
01:52:17.199 --> 01:52:17.279
No.

1893
01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:19.800
Yeah.

1894
01:52:19.880 --> 01:52:22.880
Margaret Hogan, a eighty nine year old widow who lived

1895
01:52:22.880 --> 01:52:25.760
alone in a house on Prussia Street in Dublin, Ireland,

1896
01:52:26.319 --> 01:52:29.399
was found burned almost to the point of complete destruction

1897
01:52:29.520 --> 01:52:32.800
on the twenty eighth of March nineteen seventy. Plastic flowers

1898
01:52:32.840 --> 01:52:34.399
on a table in the center of the room had

1899
01:52:34.439 --> 01:52:37.359
been reduced to liquid, and a television with a melted

1900
01:52:37.399 --> 01:52:40.439
screen sat twelve feet from the armchair in which the

1901
01:52:40.479 --> 01:52:45.199
ashen remains were found. Otherwise, the surroundings were almost untouched.

1902
01:52:46.279 --> 01:52:50.239
I mean that's a lot that was affected. Yeah, her

1903
01:52:50.319 --> 01:52:54.039
two feet and both legs from below the knees were undamaged.

1904
01:52:54.439 --> 01:52:57.119
A small coal fire had been burning in the grate

1905
01:52:57.359 --> 01:53:00.560
when a neighbor left the house the previous day. However,

1906
01:53:00.680 --> 01:53:03.359
no connection between this fire and that in which missus

1907
01:53:03.359 --> 01:53:06.159
Hogan died could be found. An inquest held on the

1908
01:53:06.159 --> 01:53:09.560
third of April nineteen seventy recorded death by burning, with

1909
01:53:09.640 --> 01:53:14.800
the cause of the fire listed as unknown. On the

1910
01:53:14.800 --> 01:53:18.439
twenty fourth of November nineteen seventy nine, during Thanksgiving weekend,

1911
01:53:18.720 --> 01:53:23.439
Beatrice Oakskoski, a fifty one year old woman, was found

1912
01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:26.720
charred to death in her home in the village of Bolingbrook, Illinois,

1913
01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:30.640
in the United States. No info there, that's it, that's it.

1914
01:53:31.399 --> 01:53:33.680
Henry Thomas, a seventy three year old man, was found

1915
01:53:33.680 --> 01:53:35.560
burned to death in the living room of his council

1916
01:53:35.600 --> 01:53:39.520
house on the Rossau estate in How do you say,

1917
01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:40.760
ebb W?

1918
01:53:43.560 --> 01:53:44.079
I don't know.

1919
01:53:44.359 --> 01:53:49.199
Yeah, I'm sorry, it's EBBW Valet, South Wales. I have

1920
01:53:49.319 --> 01:53:51.600
no idea how you would say, how do you say

1921
01:53:51.640 --> 01:53:57.560
that BBBW? I gotta know, yeah, maybe nope, I can't.

1922
01:53:57.600 --> 01:53:59.159
I can't find it and I want to keep looking.

1923
01:54:00.319 --> 01:54:03.920
But sorry, that one through me. In nineteen eighty most

1924
01:54:03.920 --> 01:54:07.600
of his body was incinerated, leaving only his skull and

1925
01:54:07.680 --> 01:54:11.479
part of each leg below the knee. The feet and

1926
01:54:11.600 --> 01:54:15.039
legs were still clothed in socks and trousers. Half of

1927
01:54:15.079 --> 01:54:17.760
the chair which he had been sitting in, was also destroyed.

1928
01:54:18.119 --> 01:54:22.079
Police forensic officers decided that the incineration of Thomas was

1929
01:54:22.199 --> 01:54:28.760
due to the Wick effect. Ooh, this one's recent. In

1930
01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:32.800
December of twenty ten, the death of Michael Faherty, a

1931
01:54:32.920 --> 01:54:36.439
seventy six year old man in County Galway, Ireland. A

1932
01:54:36.600 --> 01:54:39.279
lot of Ireland. Maybe it is alcohol related, but ump bump,

1933
01:54:40.680 --> 01:54:45.279
as quote spontaneous combustion by the coroner. The doctor Syrian

1934
01:54:45.359 --> 01:54:49.239
McLoughlin made his statement at the inquiry into the death, quote,

1935
01:54:49.439 --> 01:54:52.319
this fire was thoroughly investigated and I'm left with the

1936
01:54:52.319 --> 01:54:55.760
conclusion that this fits into the category of spontaneous human

1937
01:54:55.800 --> 01:55:01.960
combustion for which there is no adequate explanation. The Skeptic

1938
01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:06.600
magazine described to possible spontaneous human combustion the eighteen ninety

1939
01:55:06.680 --> 01:55:09.520
nine case of two children from the same family who

1940
01:55:09.520 --> 01:55:12.319
were burned to death in different places at the same time.

1941
01:55:14.199 --> 01:55:17.920
The evidence showed that although the coincidence seemed strange, the

1942
01:55:18.039 --> 01:55:21.119
children both loved to play with fire and had been

1943
01:55:21.159 --> 01:55:25.520
whipped for this behavior in the past. Looking at all

1944
01:55:25.520 --> 01:55:27.920
the evidence, the coroner and jury ruled that these were

1945
01:55:27.960 --> 01:55:33.439
both accidental deaths. I do wonder some of these deaths,

1946
01:55:33.479 --> 01:55:36.800
especially ironically enough, the ones who were like in Ireland

1947
01:55:36.880 --> 01:55:39.720
and stuff like that, maybe some of it was to

1948
01:55:39.880 --> 01:55:43.920
save face. Yeah, you know, because it's like, we don't

1949
01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:45.720
want people to know that they got pissed, they got

1950
01:55:45.720 --> 01:55:49.760
like pissed drunk and just like burn themselves alive, because

1951
01:55:49.800 --> 01:55:52.079
that is, you know, it's not the most honorable way

1952
01:55:52.079 --> 01:55:53.159
to go out unfortunately.

1953
01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:54.239
Yeah.

1954
01:55:54.439 --> 01:55:58.239
So, but that is spontaneous human combustion. I love that.

1955
01:55:58.239 --> 01:56:06.439
Wikipedia's like see also loading animal. Yay, So there you go.

1956
01:56:06.760 --> 01:56:10.520
But uh, the other day, I was looking up an actor.

1957
01:56:10.680 --> 01:56:11.920
I forget his name off the top of my head,

1958
01:56:11.920 --> 01:56:13.159
but I was looking up an actor because I was

1959
01:56:13.199 --> 01:56:17.720
curious he was playing a a character and I think

1960
01:56:17.760 --> 01:56:19.439
he was playing like a I don't know, but I

1961
01:56:19.479 --> 01:56:21.520
was curious if he was like Puerto Rican or Mexican

1962
01:56:21.600 --> 01:56:23.600
or whatever. I was just curious where he was from originally,

1963
01:56:24.760 --> 01:56:27.560
and he's Puerto Rican. But then it said under under

1964
01:56:27.600 --> 01:56:29.520
like the info about him being for Puerto Rico. It

1965
01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:32.600
said see also list of Puerto Ricans, and I was

1966
01:56:32.640 --> 01:56:34.600
like what, and I clicked on it and it was

1967
01:56:34.720 --> 01:56:36.840
just a list of famous people that were Puerto Rican.

1968
01:56:36.920 --> 01:56:39.600
But nowhere in any of the page did it say

1969
01:56:39.640 --> 01:56:42.279
like famous Puerto Ricans or famous actors for Puerto Rico.

1970
01:56:42.399 --> 01:56:45.680
Just said list of Puerto Ricans. Wow, and then just

1971
01:56:45.720 --> 01:56:48.840
a long list of mostly like famous Puerto Ricans, but

1972
01:56:48.920 --> 01:56:50.880
never once to say anything other than the list of

1973
01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:55.239
Puerto Ricans. Not quite as good as witches, though, But

1974
01:56:55.279 --> 01:56:57.439
it's not bad. It's not bad at all. So but

1975
01:56:57.520 --> 01:57:01.319
now whenever he pops up in a movie, now I'll go, oh, man,

1976
01:57:01.359 --> 01:57:05.680
I remember him from the list of Puerto Ricans. So anyway,

1977
01:57:05.720 --> 01:57:08.279
with that all being said, we're gonna take a quick

1978
01:57:08.319 --> 01:57:11.000
break and we're gonna wrap things up on this month's

1979
01:57:11.359 --> 01:57:24.079
Spooky right after this, Well, my Spookies, we've pretty much

1980
01:57:24.920 --> 01:57:28.239
exacerbated everything in this episode. I mean, we had spontaneous

1981
01:57:28.319 --> 01:57:34.199
human combustion, we had an autumount of misogyny coming from Michelle. Hey,

1982
01:57:34.399 --> 01:57:35.000
we had.

1983
01:57:34.920 --> 01:57:37.960
What it was not me, It was the article.

1984
01:57:38.359 --> 01:57:42.520
Uh huh, right, of course it was, of course it was.

1985
01:57:43.560 --> 01:57:47.000
We had me getting very upset about a psychic. We

1986
01:57:47.079 --> 01:57:49.359
found out I found out that I did not understand

1987
01:57:49.439 --> 01:57:53.520
ball lightning. So it's been a pretty fortuitous episode of

1988
01:57:53.520 --> 01:57:58.560
Monthly Spooky. Other than we didn't get the damn if

1989
01:57:58.560 --> 01:58:00.680
we could just get the death cat mushroom sentence, I

1990
01:58:00.720 --> 01:58:03.880
want to know how it all ends. Yeah, even though

1991
01:58:03.920 --> 01:58:06.079
it's pretty obvious, probably I don't know. I don't actually

1992
01:58:06.119 --> 01:58:08.960
know Australia, so I don't know how likely any sentence

1993
01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:13.439
would be. But that all being said, before we wrap

1994
01:58:13.520 --> 01:58:19.119
things up, man, my voice is going before we wrap

1995
01:58:19.159 --> 01:58:21.560
things up. I wanted to mention I did see two

1996
01:58:21.800 --> 01:58:25.239
brand new horror movies in the theater this last month.

1997
01:58:26.560 --> 01:58:29.920
So I saw twenty eight Years Later, which is the

1998
01:58:30.439 --> 01:58:33.439
twenty eight year later sequel to twenty eight Days Later,

1999
01:58:34.960 --> 01:58:37.760
and it was pretty fun. I enjoyed it. I thought

2000
01:58:37.760 --> 01:58:40.399
it did a lot of really cool world building. Apparently

2001
01:58:40.760 --> 01:58:42.800
the day they released it, they announced that they had

2002
01:58:42.800 --> 01:58:45.399
already shot a sequel that would come out in January.

2003
01:58:45.880 --> 01:58:49.880
Oh so there was a teaser at the end for

2004
01:58:50.000 --> 01:58:54.960
another movie, which makes sense because it exists. It's actually

2005
01:58:55.000 --> 01:58:56.800
twenty eight years later the Bone Temple.

2006
01:58:57.199 --> 01:58:59.920
Oh okay, so it's in the same period of time.

2007
01:59:00.359 --> 01:59:03.079
Yeah. So, yeah, I was hoping for twenty eight decades

2008
01:59:03.159 --> 01:59:05.600
later and it just be like futuristic cars. Did have

2009
01:59:05.640 --> 01:59:06.960
you seen twenty eight days later?

2010
01:59:07.439 --> 01:59:08.880
I actually have? Yeah?

2011
01:59:08.920 --> 01:59:14.359
Really? Yeah, So in twenty eight years later, all of

2012
01:59:14.359 --> 01:59:17.960
the United Kingdom is just a no a no man's land,

2013
01:59:18.600 --> 01:59:20.880
like they're separate from the rest of the world. The

2014
01:59:20.880 --> 01:59:23.239
people who managed to survive there just kind of do

2015
01:59:23.319 --> 01:59:28.039
their own thing. But it's like NATO ships go around

2016
01:59:28.039 --> 01:59:30.279
to make sure no one can escape and potentially take

2017
01:59:30.279 --> 01:59:34.159
the virus because it's so powerful, right, Okay, so literally

2018
01:59:34.239 --> 01:59:36.680
it's just in England. It like ends up not spreading

2019
01:59:36.680 --> 01:59:39.960
to the whole world. It just like ravishes England, Okay.

2020
01:59:40.439 --> 01:59:43.279
And there's some really interesting stuff about, like like small

2021
01:59:43.319 --> 01:59:46.560
island communities off the coast and how they like survive

2022
01:59:46.640 --> 01:59:48.960
by going on the mainland and learning how to fight

2023
01:59:49.039 --> 01:59:52.560
the rage virus people and stuff. You'd probably really like it. Actually,

2024
01:59:53.720 --> 01:59:55.439
do you remember liking twenty eight days later?

2025
01:59:56.000 --> 01:59:56.359
I think?

2026
01:59:56.439 --> 01:59:58.239
So, Yeah, it's a good movie.

2027
01:59:58.479 --> 02:00:00.720
Was there a twenty eight weeks there?

2028
02:00:00.880 --> 02:00:04.479
Was? It was? Okay? Okay, that was one where twenty

2029
02:00:04.520 --> 02:00:06.840
eight weeks later they deem it safe to come back

2030
02:00:06.880 --> 02:00:10.479
to London and it doesn't go so good. Yeah, no,

2031
02:00:12.000 --> 02:00:14.479
but no, I enjoyed it. The other film I saw,

2032
02:00:14.479 --> 02:00:16.000
which is kind of a sign of the times because

2033
02:00:16.000 --> 02:00:19.640
it's also a sequel to an older movie, was I

2034
02:00:19.680 --> 02:00:24.680
Know What You Did last summer, the new sequel remake thing.

2035
02:00:25.920 --> 02:00:30.119
It wasn't bad, but it walked the line between fan

2036
02:00:30.239 --> 02:00:33.920
service and trying to do something new to risk free,

2037
02:00:34.520 --> 02:00:37.039
Like they should have either really went into being In

2038
02:00:37.079 --> 02:00:38.800
my opinion, they should have went all in on just

2039
02:00:38.840 --> 02:00:41.000
being fan service, like, remember how much you liked that movie.

2040
02:00:41.000 --> 02:00:42.960
We're doing that again. We're doing this, Remember how much

2041
02:00:43.000 --> 02:00:45.079
you liked it. They should have. Instead, they would like,

2042
02:00:45.119 --> 02:00:47.359
do it a little bit, then they pull back, but

2043
02:00:47.399 --> 02:00:49.159
then they do the same thing with when they try

2044
02:00:49.159 --> 02:00:50.720
something new. They would do some of it, but they

2045
02:00:50.760 --> 02:00:52.960
wouldn't go so far as to really change what the

2046
02:00:53.000 --> 02:00:55.720
movie was. So I thought it was fine, Like it

2047
02:00:55.760 --> 02:00:57.640
was a fun time in the theater. I got a

2048
02:00:57.640 --> 02:00:59.359
real kick out of it. I had a good time

2049
02:00:59.399 --> 02:01:01.600
watching it. But you know, it's not something I'm gonna

2050
02:01:01.640 --> 02:01:03.000
be like, Man, I can't wait to watch that when

2051
02:01:03.000 --> 02:01:06.399
it comes, you know, out on home video. I'm good.

2052
02:01:06.439 --> 02:01:10.479
I watched it once. It was fun. Okay, So uh,

2053
02:01:10.680 --> 02:01:12.560
but before we get out of here, do you have

2054
02:01:12.600 --> 02:01:16.479
anything eerie to share from rered it? I put the

2055
02:01:16.560 --> 02:01:18.439
roll of my tongue in the D instead of the R.

2056
02:01:18.600 --> 02:01:22.880
That was, ok it was weird. I have like one

2057
02:01:22.920 --> 02:01:26.000
thing I will try to explain in a way that

2058
02:01:26.079 --> 02:01:29.800
makes sense, okay, but basically it's from the Glitchen the

2059
02:01:29.840 --> 02:01:33.319
matrix so reddit and so there's this person and I

2060
02:01:33.359 --> 02:01:38.760
don't know what their gender is, but the OP has

2061
02:01:38.800 --> 02:01:42.359
like a second cousin and let me pop back in

2062
02:01:42.439 --> 02:01:49.520
here and his wife no, yeah, and they're and that

2063
02:01:49.640 --> 02:01:52.439
second cousin is like married and they have two kids,

2064
02:01:52.680 --> 02:01:56.159
right okay, hate Like they both have both daughters of

2065
02:01:56.359 --> 02:02:01.520
h names, and they've seen each other before, like the

2066
02:02:01.520 --> 02:02:05.199
the op's kids have kid has hung out, his daughter

2067
02:02:05.239 --> 02:02:08.159
has hung out with the two girls, the two you

2068
02:02:08.199 --> 02:02:13.119
know people in the family and all that stuff. And recently,

2069
02:02:13.159 --> 02:02:17.239
actually this was a while ago, but the OP has

2070
02:02:17.279 --> 02:02:20.600
noticed that like when whoever you know, his extended family

2071
02:02:20.640 --> 02:02:23.760
posts on Facebook a lot, and they're never posting about

2072
02:02:23.800 --> 02:02:26.039
the one girl. They always post about the other one,

2073
02:02:26.479 --> 02:02:29.119
like oh, you know, we went to Disney and stuff

2074
02:02:29.159 --> 02:02:32.439
like that. And so finally he like he like called

2075
02:02:32.560 --> 02:02:34.000
or like was talking to them and he's like, what's

2076
02:02:34.039 --> 02:02:35.359
going on with the other one?

2077
02:02:35.960 --> 02:02:39.720
And they were like, we only have fun, kid, what

2078
02:02:39.800 --> 02:02:44.720
are you talking about? So he's like, I'm we're like

2079
02:02:45.159 --> 02:02:49.720
camped with them, and his daughter remembers her too, So

2080
02:02:49.760 --> 02:02:53.279
it's not just one person, right, having a mental breakdown,

2081
02:02:53.520 --> 02:02:56.880
but it's just them, and they were like looking through

2082
02:02:56.920 --> 02:02:59.560
their pictures like trying to find evidence this person exists.

2083
02:02:59.680 --> 02:03:03.199
Can't find anything, like pictures that they should have been

2084
02:03:03.199 --> 02:03:06.560
taking with both the girls only have the one daughter

2085
02:03:06.640 --> 02:03:09.119
in it. Now they have no idea what's going on,

2086
02:03:09.199 --> 02:03:11.159
and no one else remembers, including his son.

2087
02:03:13.319 --> 02:03:16.000
That's I That's the kind of that actually like makes

2088
02:03:16.039 --> 02:03:19.600
me really uncomfortable because that would freak me out so deeply. Yeah,

2089
02:03:19.920 --> 02:03:21.479
just be like, no, there was only one of us

2090
02:03:21.479 --> 02:03:23.520
this whole time, Like how would you because how would

2091
02:03:23.560 --> 02:03:24.199
you explain that?

2092
02:03:25.000 --> 02:03:28.199
I I don't know, especially because if it if the

2093
02:03:29.079 --> 02:03:32.199
the poster had said like I'm the only one that

2094
02:03:32.239 --> 02:03:34.000
remembers it, I would just be like, cool, you have

2095
02:03:34.039 --> 02:03:35.079
a brain cancer.

2096
02:03:35.199 --> 02:03:36.159
Sorry, yeah, of course.

2097
02:03:36.600 --> 02:03:39.199
But if someone else does, and it's it's to me,

2098
02:03:39.279 --> 02:03:41.479
it's good that both his kids don't remember, because if

2099
02:03:41.760 --> 02:03:43.680
if they both remembered. I would think, okay, power of

2100
02:03:43.720 --> 02:03:46.359
suggestion or something, right, but for just the daughter to

2101
02:03:46.399 --> 02:03:48.279
be like, no, like we hung because she used to

2102
02:03:48.319 --> 02:03:51.880
hang out with them, And yeah, that's weird.

2103
02:03:52.640 --> 02:03:58.880
It's an upset, extremely weird and upsetting. Yeah. Yeah, well,

2104
02:03:58.920 --> 02:04:02.319
thank you. That one's that's a good one, because, I mean,

2105
02:04:02.399 --> 02:04:06.520
other than conspiracy gaslighting, I can't think of anything else.

2106
02:04:06.840 --> 02:04:08.479
Yeah, that's the only thing I could think of too.

2107
02:04:08.680 --> 02:04:11.000
I mean, but the problem is that all their pictures

2108
02:04:11.039 --> 02:04:13.399
are different now, so like, how would you how would

2109
02:04:13.439 --> 02:04:19.640
you execute that photoshop? I mean, I guess since since

2110
02:04:19.680 --> 02:04:23.880
everything's digital, you technically could. Yeah, it would just be

2111
02:04:24.000 --> 02:04:27.800
super I mean, but considering the reason they would do

2112
02:04:27.840 --> 02:04:31.680
this is because they murdered their child probably, like I guess.

2113
02:04:31.439 --> 02:04:34.000
Well, and their child was a CIA asset to begin with,

2114
02:04:34.359 --> 02:04:40.279
right right. Yeah, so no, that's a good one. Yeah. Thanks.

2115
02:04:40.520 --> 02:04:42.880
Oh before we go, did I tell you I was

2116
02:04:42.920 --> 02:04:45.039
in I spent some time in Cincinnati a few weeks ago,

2117
02:04:45.159 --> 02:04:48.479
and I was walking to a movie theater with a

2118
02:04:48.479 --> 02:04:51.279
friend and I noticed that there was a restaurant called,

2119
02:04:51.319 --> 02:04:55.000
like I think it was called the Gaslight Bar and Grill. Yeah,

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and I pointed that out to her and said, oh, yeah,

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we're in the gaslight district, like that's what it's called here,

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and I was like, oh, man, I wish I could.

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I want to work there so that when people come

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in for the first time, I can say, hey, so

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cool to have you back, and they can be like,

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I haven't been here before. I'm like, yeah you have.

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This is your favorite place to eat? Yeah, gaslight, barn, krill,

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the full experience or like.

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And they come in and they're like, oh, how long

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have you been there? You can be like, oh, we

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just oh, we've been here like one hundred years, and

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they'd be like that's funny because I thought there was

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another No, it's all like I don't know what you're

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talking about. You've always been here.

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I mean maybe if you rode your horse and buggy

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up to the original place. I don't know what was

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here then. But yeah, anyway, the usual I would would

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that would be my favorite thing, would just be making

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gaslight jokes about everything you want your usual burger and fries.

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I'm a vegetarian. You sound crazy right now. Everyone's gonna

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think you're nuts. But on that note, thank you guys

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so much for joining us for another episode of Monthly Spooky.

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I'm really looking forward to just celebrating with even more

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scary stories and such. So for myself, for my producer

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as well as our composer Ray Mattis, I'm gonna let

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Michelle have the final words, like, these aren't dangerous? Then

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why do we have to call nine online? Answer the question?

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I don't know