April 28, 2025

Monthly Spooky | Haunted Morgues, Cropsey and Staten Island Horror

Monthly Spooky | Haunted Morgues, Cropsey and Staten Island Horror
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Monthly Spooky: Weird News, Haunting Stories, And Urban Legends

This month on Monthly Spooky, we explore the terrifying real-world stories behind urban legends, chilling true crime cases, and ghost stories that refuse to fade into the dark.
We dive deep into the legend of Cropsey, the infamous Staten Island urban myth tied to the real-life horrors committed by Andre Rand. Discover how the lines between spooky folklore, horrifying true crime, and real-life disappearances like Jennifer Schweiger’s blurred forever.
You’ll also hear:

  • Spine-chilling ghost stories and real paranormal encounters
  • Abandoned morgues and the eerie secrets they hide
  • Horror movie chat featuring films that connect to true crimes and urban myths

Whether you love horror podcasts, true crime podcasts, or spooky urban legends podcasts, this episode of Monthly Spooky delivers chills, laughs, and unforgettable stories.
Tune in for your monthly fix of true crime horrors, haunted legends, and tales that will keep you looking over your shoulder. Subscribe now for new haunted histories and dark mysteries every month!
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Exploring and abandoned Morgue Ghostly sex gone right, but don't worry.

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That's just a turtle down my pants, and we dive

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into the true and sad story of Cropsy. Get comfortable,

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thrown off the lights. It's Monthly Spooky. Hello, my spookies,

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you are not mistaken. It is indeed that time of

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the I am, of course, your host, Enrique Kuto, here

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with my good buddy and co host at Monthly Spooky Michelle, Michelle,

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how are you?

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I don't know, I don't know.

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I should have started with like easier questions to like

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build you up. I guess, warm me up a little bit.

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I apologize that that's on me. That's on me. I

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let you down and I apologize, is it though?

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Sure?

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All right, I'll take that. So so we're here even

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negating any technical issues or technical difficulties. So which is

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which is a blessing? Usually I'm the one fighting with

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Google Chrome or whatever, but this time it.

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Was Michelle, Yeah about it.

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I'm sorry, pal. I felt I felt completely betrayed the

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when when I had Google Chrome start messing up recordings,

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not just with you and me, but with tons of

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other shows I was doing. When it first started happening

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for me, I had literally been I had made the

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mistake of like saying out loud, boy, I need to

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finally make the move and stop using Safari altogether and

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only use Chrome. And then Chrome was like, oh, yeah, well,

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now nothing will ever work. And I was like, oh great.

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I like Chrome because I'm glad you like Chrome. It

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works usually except right now.

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Yet yet you're using Microsoft Edge.

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It's not my fault that Microsoft Edge for some reason

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is working.

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I yeah, I couldn't tell you, tell you why for sure.

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Yeah.

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So, but we are here for better or worse. And

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before we started the program, Chelle and I were sharing

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our experiences with sliced up fingers. Oh yeah, because a

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couple months ago I cut my finger pretty deep and

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it was right around the same time you had a

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incident with a drone. Yeah, yeah, that cut up your

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finger pretty good. Probably, but both of Yeah, I don't

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think we talked about it much, but yeah, we probably

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both should have went to some kind of a hospital

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or urgent care. Sure, probably we didn't. I'm just saying

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we probably should have. I'm sure there are many people

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who would say based on the fact that, like, my

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cut was so deep that that two months or that

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a month later the nail was was sliced like as

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it was growing out. They'd probably say, oh, that means

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that was a pretty deep cut. And to them, I say,

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sounds like you're a coward. It doesn't sharpen your kitchen

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knives enough.

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Yeah, but also, your nail isn't that far from the

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top of your finger, so it almost seems like.

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But it went through it. That's the part that yeah, okay,

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through it. That's the part. Yeah, because I remember because

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right when I came out to visit you last I

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was my finger was swelling up and I was like,

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oh my god, it's infected. And then I realized it

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was because the nail was pushing through the cuticle and

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it because it was all jagged. It was just making

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me yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, this is where you're groaning.

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But when I showed it to you in person, you

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were like, Oh, it's like it's all about the theater

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of the mind with you, isn't it. I don't know, No,

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I don't think that's it.

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I don't remember.

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But now you have gone and done hurt your finger.

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What did you do to that poor little piggy.

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I still don't know.

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I was.

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It was at an inspection and I was trying to

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open like the gate, like a fence gate to the

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backyard and it's got like one of those really big,

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like I don't know, like hinged things latch those watch yeah. Yeah,

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And I was trying to open it, and I think

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the gate was kind of being held up slightly by

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the latch and so like it just slammed down on

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my finger and like crushed it, and I thought I

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was I was really surprised I didn't break my finger

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because of how much force it was.

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But I did see a layer skin skin just comemore. Yeah,

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you know because normally, like when I've cut myself, I

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don't actually see the skin.

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I totally saw the skin. So I was like, oh,

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that's not good. So I have this like giant like

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hole just now. I mean, it's not deep at all,

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it's just the skin.

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But it's it's it's wide, it's got it's got surface area.

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Yeah. And I just noticed after I showered today that

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I actually have a cut on the other side of

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my finger too. It's just super minor. Yeah, because it

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was the other one was so bad. Also, it was under

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the band aid, so I didn't ye like.

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A sibling, you know, the one the problem the attention

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and the other one is forgotten.

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Yeah, yeah. Life is a lot like a cut to

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your finger. Yeah, lots of I mean fair, that's a

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fair point. But other than smashing your finger, how have

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you been?

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No, just not happy.

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I don't know, is that different than usual? Yeah?

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I don't know. I'm sad because I haven't talked to

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my mom in a.

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Week because she's in Costa Rica. Right.

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She actually just came home last night, but she's still

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at her friend's house, so I still haven't talked to her.

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So what you're saying is she was away from you,

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from you for a week and got home and realized

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that was pretty nice.

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Yeah exactly. She was like, wow, I only had to

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talk about banana fish one time because we did because lightly,

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I just did, like, here have this gift.

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So when your mom was she was in for a

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week Costa Rica. Yeah, so she didn't call from there

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or she only called very sparingly.

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No, we talked on What's app.

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We texted Oh okay, that's not so, I mean it's

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still yeah.

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It was day right, Yeah, and it was like at

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like ten thirty at night because it's a couple hours earlier,

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and she was doing bus tour, so she was just

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and she like didn't have any internet, so it was

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just like hard and I was tired, so and she

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wasn't getting my messages in order sometimes, so the responses

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were weird.

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So oh that's fun. Yeah, it's real fun.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, no, that's that's a lot. You know, your mom's

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probably just trying to adjust to the I don't know

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what the time difference is over there. To you, it's

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two hours two hours. Okay, that's not too bad. It's

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basically California time, I guess, so, yeah, something like that.

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In theory.

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No, California time is three two hours. California's three, I think, yeah,

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because because there's the there's a middle one, and then

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there's Mountain time.

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There's Central than Mountain, then Pacific.

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Yeah, the middle one. Yeah.

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Oh okay, Well, did she have fun at least?

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I think? I hope. So she seemed like she had

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an okay time. She seems like it was too long,

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But a week is.

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A long time, especially if you're not used to taking

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like week long holidays like I am not yeah, because

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I have friends who are like, we're gonna do two

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weeks at whatever, and I'm like, my god, that's half

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a month. Yeah, like that's like your whole life.

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Yeah.

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I mean that's probably the ADHD talking, but that's the

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way I feel. So yeah, yeah, Well at least she

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got back safe and sound. And did she bring you

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back like a monkey or anything.

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I hope not, because you know, I'm really scared of monkeys.

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You need to face your fears. It's probably the only

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ways you can grow.

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No, I don't like them. There's like too much like people,

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and then but we act like they're animals. Scares me.

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I mean they're they're a bit different, but they're too

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stair enough. You don't like their thumbs. The thumbs are

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what upset you.

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It's just that, like I just feel like they should

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we should just have like normal conversations with them, and

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they should just live in houses next to us. And

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if they're not, I'm confused.

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That is the That is the most interesting monkey take

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I think I've ever heard. Well done.

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No, I felt that way until right now.

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You know. I mean, I'm happy you shared it with me,

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but I feel like a therapist would love to talk

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about that.

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I know they said they didn't want to get into

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that anymore anymore.

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Michelle. We've talked about this for the last forty seven sessions,

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and I feel like we've explored everything we can.

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But you don't understand why are they out there? They

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should be living next to us in houses.

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Well. I tried to explain to you that from a

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scientific standpoint, their brains are substantially smaller than ours, which

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makes it harder for them to commit to substantial reasoning.

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They also have fur that covers their bodies and allows

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them to not need clothes, and especially not to need

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vests or bowler hats, which you seem to think they

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need very much.

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No, I was trying to tell you that I thought

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that was speciesiest. I don't know why you're not listening

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to me. I don't think this is working out.

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I think that the real problem is all you think

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about from the moment you leave our sessions is more

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things you're going to talk about about monkeys, and we're

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not even we're supposed to be talking about you.

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Michelle, this is about me. It's all I think about. So, like,

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what else you want to know?

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Do you believe you are among key you know what

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I feel?

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No, no, no, because I'm just trying to explain to

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you that I think that monkeys are misunderstood and you're

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misunderstanding me. So maybe I am a monkey. I don't know.

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I'm so confused.

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Before we wrap up our time today, I'm just going

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to open my lunch box and ask you one simple thing.

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No, don't do it.

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Would you like a banana? No, I wouldn't like a banana.

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I would not like a banana.

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It's right, but not overly right.

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I would not like a banana at all. Give me

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that banana.

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We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back

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with the speaky news. All right, my friends, my spookies,

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I think it's just about time we dive deep into

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a little spooky news, the spooky news. This first one

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is from the Scottish Sun dot co dot UK.

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Hmm.

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Yeah, I've been able to get my feelers deeper into

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the realm of spooky news stories, so it's not just

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Mirror dot co dot UK and NPR okay, but mostly yeah,

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yeah yeah, But this article the headline is spook Show

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Inside Scotland's most haunted cinema, where staff here voices and

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shadowy figure and shadowy figure roamsthehalls.

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Wow, just as good as Marr do co.

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Well done the Scottish Sun and shadowy figure roams the halls.

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So I mean, I'm not I look, I didn't graduate

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high school, but even I know it should either be

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and a shadowy figure rooms halls or and shadowy figures

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roam the hall room the halls. So it looks like

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they forgot a definite article being a.

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been a shadowy roams the halls. Yeah, so I think

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I think that's just the least amount of mis say

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I'm being a little too kind to the Scottish Sun.

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Maybe maybe I have some degree of ancestors from Scotland.

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Maybe I'm just feeling bad. You know that we left,

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and but I still like to wear a skirt from

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now and then all right, they say shadowy figure, A

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shadowy figure walks through the halls, and the toilet door

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items fly through the air, and disembodied voices whisper in

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the dark. A second spook is said, that's not okay,

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is said to be dressed in the period clothes of

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a fish wife. Oh my gosh, this is all like

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UK slang a fishwife. I'm gonna look it up because

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most of our listeners are not in the UK.

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We do have someone who's married to a fish, but

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I could be wrong.

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A coarse mannered woman who is prone to shouting.

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Oh wow, not a fish at all. Huh.

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Apparently the archaic term would be a woman who sells fish,

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but that's not a common usage. It's it's more for

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a woman who shouts a great deal, and it's considered derogatory.

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This is just so much.

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Well, it does in the period clothes of a fishwife,

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so it must mean a fish monger woman. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

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The Cinema in Elgin has been the venue for a

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whole host of ghostly happenings. General manager Steven Betsky Yetski

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bis Key and his employees have had multiple paranormal encounters

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in the past few years. All of these things have

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been witnessed at the cinema, which was built in nineteen

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thirty nine.

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Wow, it's new.

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I like that. That's how you feel about things being new.

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I'm like, wow, that's old. That's like almost when cinema

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was invented. I mean, I mean sound cinema.

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I mean, to be fair, I also think it's old.

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But I felt like in Scotland that that's not very

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old at all.

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Oh, I would agree with that assessment. It's more like

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I balanced it with like my opinion of like Scottish

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stuff and then cinema, because cinema is not that old. Yeah,

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that's why I.

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Like it's going to be the sixteenth century cinema.

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Yeah, well, like Queen Well in small town, That's what

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I was gonna say. In small towns. Even in America,

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a lot of the cinemas in like excuse me if

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they're like in downtown are converted playhouses right right right,

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And that would make sense. So when it says it

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was built in nineteen thirty five, I'm like, oh, okay,

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so it was built to just be a cinema. He said. Quote.

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We have had some spooky going on goings on in

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the cinema in the past few years. Our most recent

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event involved the Kiosk d To my surprise, we had

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three piles of hot cup lids kindly remove themselves from

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the counter. I think that's literal. I think that's not

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a I think that just means the lids you put

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on like cuff coffee.

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Oh okay, Like, yeah, okay, they weren't hot at the time.

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They were for cups that are hot.

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Yeah, they're hot cupleds, not hot cup lids. Yeah, yeah,

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got it. Where they are stored and landed down in

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front of the microwave. I was in the building myself,

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nobody else was here at all. I heard the noise

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and came through and immediately saw what it was. Those

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cup lids that were on the floor do not get

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stored anywhere near there. Sadly, nothing was picked up on

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our closed circuit television cameras as it doesn't cover that area.

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That was probably two months ago. You made a face,

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are you, like, why wouldn't the closed circuit TV cameras

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be pointed towards like the kiosk?

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Well, yes, yes, but also like then, it could have

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been anything.

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That's true.

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It could have been a person.

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It could have been a little monkey. No, it's not

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a monkey trying to live among the people.

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No, No, give me those bananas.

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Oh okay, Okay, far more has happened in the past

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four years as well. I've been there, and there have

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been lots of more going on before my time as well.

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The foyer for Cinema two and three. Oh, it's a

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multi screen cinema two. That was I mean it probably

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was converted.

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Or even Oh sorry, I was gonna say, maybe they

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even expanded it too.

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Oh, that could be too. You're right. The foyer for

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Cinema two and three is where I've seen my most

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impressive spooky situation here. I was locking up one night

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and came around the corner right in front of the

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gents toilet. A shadowy figure came through the toilet door,

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actually through the door. The door didn't move. Wow, Because

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I'm American. When I hear toilet door, I imagine a door

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that goes into a literal like porcelain toilet. Like. Ah, yes,

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the toilet door, What good would that be? Like the

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lid basically, well, it's not a door. If it's a lid,

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it's kind unless it's a hot lid.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it came out and walked around the corner and

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walked into the door on the right hand side to

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the staff room. Oh, It's strange that it's happened in

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this corner because another situation that I had was when

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I was opening up one morning. The door to the

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cleaning cupboard has all our light switches in here. On

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Wednesday morning, I was opening up, and as soon as

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I put the key in the door, I heard a voice,

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clear as day over my right hand shoulder. It said,

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are you ready for what to rumble? I instantly got

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the goosebumps. When you hear things as clear as day.

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I know I'm not going crazy, but it is a

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shock to the system. Other members of the staff have

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also said they've seen and heard things in this cinema.

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They've heard stories of people who've experienced things here, or

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they've seen and heard things themselves.

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It's it's like what happened things? Everyone saw things, other

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people they had stuff happened to them. Oh my god.

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I think the big problem with this article is it's

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a that was a very the quote still going. This

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is just the guy talking. They didn't edit him for

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for revity. This is clearly a transcription of a recording. Yes,

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that's why it feels like he's not making any sense

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because a lot of times transcriptions don't make sense. They

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read them out loud again because there's no inflection. Workmen

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in the building have also heard voices, especially when Cinema

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THII was getting built. You're right, they expanded a lot

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of stuff tends to happen when there are big changes.

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But although these oh, this is the end of the

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quotes over now. But although these mysterious events have caused goosebumps,

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they've thankfully not caused any greater harm. So goosebumps are

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a type of harm. Yes, Stephen said, quote The biggest

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shock was the shadow through the door, because I actually

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saw that with my own eyes. I had to run downstairs.

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I had to run downstairs and get help because I

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didn't want to be up there by myself. But I

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never once felt threatened. It's almost as though we're a

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part of a family.

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What I'm so so you couldn't be up to the

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Harris by yourself, but you didn't feel threatened, and you

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felt like this was part of your family. None of

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this sounds good for what you think family is.

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Yeah, this makes me worry that you have not watched

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all of the Fast and the Furious movies so that

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you can understand family. Yeah, Wow.

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I feel really bad now I don't.

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Oh, but we're gonna take a quick break, and when

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we get back, we're gonna read a news story that

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the headline actually made me freaked out. I'm so excited

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to talk about it. We'll get to that right after this.

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We are back with even more spooky news, this time

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heading to Michelle's favorite news source and general source of entertainment.

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Oh what, it's NPR.

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I know I don't think of it as entertainment though.

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No one does, so but up up, up up. But

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I saw this headline cell and it gave me pause,

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Like I was like, what the headline is? Authority say

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a babysitter checked under the bed for monsters and found someone.

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Oh shit, right, Oh I just heard about Oh that

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wasn't real? Never mind yay, Like wasn't real.

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Like you read it in a book, or was it

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real like you imagined it while like like spacing out.

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It's neither of those. It was on NPR, but it

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was specifically not real on NPR.

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Oh okay, Well, we're already starting off weird because the

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first line is the myth of the bogie Man, not Boogieyman,

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the bogey man. Wow. I feel like that's an actual debate. Really,

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people say bogey man and some people say boogieyman.

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Never heard anyone say bogie man before.

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Real or maybe it's just spelling it with one O

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is supposed to also say boogieyman as possible. Well, now

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I have to know both bogey man and Boogieyman refer

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to the same mythical creature. Boogie Man is more common

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in American English, and bogey man also being used in

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British English. That makes sense, so they're not using the

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right style guide right in VR weird not cool. The

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myth of a boogieyman hiding under the bed came true

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for one Kansas family this week after a child's complaint

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led to a man's arrest oh No. The Barton County

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Sheriff's Office said in a statement that it responded to

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reports of a disturbance at a house outside the city

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of Great Bend on Monday. The unnamed babysitter told authorities

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that she was getting the kids ready for bed when

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one complained about a quote monster under their bed. Her

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efforts to reassure them otherwise didn't go quite as planned.

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When the victim attempt oh sir. This is quote. When

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the victim attempted to show the child there was nothing

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under the bed, she came face to face with a

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male suspect who was hiding there. The Sheriff's office statement said,

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an altercation ensued with the babysitter and one child with

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the babysitter, and one child was knocked over in the struggle.

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Oh was he just trying to get away?

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I'm sure hope? So. Yeah. The suspect is a twenty

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four year old man who quote once lived at the residents.

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Oh no, how long has he been there?

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So? Oh? Oh, this makes it sadder and not as

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scary in some ways and much more scary in other ways. Yeah,

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apparently he didn't live there before them. He lived there

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with them, but he was not supposed to be there anymore.

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It gets worse, the statement says, but who was under

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a quote protection from abuse order that required him to

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stay away from the property.

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Okay.

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NPR is not publishing his name because whether he has

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been charged in connection with this incident is unclear. Online

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court records cited by CNN and Kake News show he

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posted bond at about ten days earlier after being charged

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with criminal threat domestic battery and violating a protection from

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abuse order related to incidents in January and February. Oh,

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this is scarier. It's just not the scary Yeah yeah.

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NPR has reached out to the Sheriff's office in Barton

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County Attorney for more information. The statement says the suspect

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fled the scene before deputies arrived on Monday night, but

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was spotted in the area and after a quote short

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foot pursuit, taken into custody. The next morning. He was

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arrested on charges of aggravated kidnapping, aggravated burglary, aggravated battery,

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child endangerment, fell in, the obstruction of a law enforcement officer,

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and violation of a protection from abuse order. The statement says.

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Wait, aggravated kidnapping.

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Aggravated kidnapping. Well, it says he was arrested on charges,

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it doesn't say that that was then charged, so they

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could have thought he was attempting to kidnap somebody. Okay, maybe,

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I mean, I could look up what aggravated kidnapping means.

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What does it because we're not lawyers here, unfortunately. I mean, Michelle,

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why didn't you become a lawyer?

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Because I'm scared of people, really scared of people a lot.

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It seemed like a bad idea.

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Okay.

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Also, I don't understand law.

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Well that's easy enough. So basically it means kidnapping with

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additional malicious intent. Oh so, like if you would if

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you have abused a child and then you're trying to

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kidnap them, they could assume to continue abusing the child.

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Right, And if it was someone, if it was like

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you were kidnapped by your parent, because there's a custody thing,

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that wouldn't be aggravated kidnapping unless CRUs Yeah.

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Okay, aggravated kidnapping is considered substantially more serious than normal kidnapping.

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Okay. Interesting, I'm scared of everything.

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Good, good, good, that's the way to be. According to

468
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the statement, the man is being held in county jail

469
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:54.079
in lieu of a five hundred thousand dollars bond. It

470
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:57.079
is not clear whether he has retained a lawyer. While

471
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.240
fears of someone hiding under the bed are ubiquitous, they

472
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:04.079
don't materialize very often. In two thousand and six, a

473
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:07.799
former Washington DC hospital valet was sentenced to more than

474
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.920
three years in prison for stalking a hospital employee. He

475
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:15.599
allegedly made copies of her keys, snuck a video camera

476
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:19.000
onto her dresser, and hid under her bed for two

477
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.519
nights before he was discovered by the woman's boyfriend.

478
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:23.680
Oh jeez.

479
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:29.400
In twenty sixteen, a Tennessee woman discovered her ex boyfriend

480
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.839
hiding her hiding under her bed while she was having

481
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:36.240
a security system installed to protect herself from him.

482
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:37.160
Oh my god.

483
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.480
She had already filed a protective order and changed her

484
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:45.440
locks multiple times. According to a Nashville police affidavit reported

485
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.039
by WZTV news, she shot him in the foot and

486
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:53.960
held him at gunpoint until police arrived. Yay, well, it

487
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:58.880
did open with a Tennessee woman, okay, oh, and then

488
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:02.480
in oh and then in twenty twenty five, a young

489
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:10.480
woman living outside the Philadelphia area alone had it. Sorry,

490
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:12.720
because you would know it was just your printer under

491
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:13.079
your bed.

492
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:16.440
Oh no, no, that's not the reason. Why Because I

493
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:19.039
because I look under my bed, so nobody could hide

494
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:22.039
there for more more than a couple hours.

495
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:26.079
Plus gigs would want to hang out with them. Yeah.

496
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:27.759
If I was like, gigs, where are you and I

497
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:30.319
didn't find her, and since she was just under my

498
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:35.680
bed with some criminal, purring. Yeah, exactly.

499
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.559
I have drawers under my bed, so there's nothing under

500
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:44.240
there except for you know, clothing that I probably will

501
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:46.240
never wear because I put it in the drawers under

502
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:50.920
my bed yeahead of you know, an addresser. That story

503
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:54.240
was freaky though, Like I just can't imagine looking I've

504
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:56.200
checked under a bed many times in my life, and

505
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.079
I can't imagine ever finding anything. Mm hmmm.

506
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:03.079
Yeah. Yeah. It's scary when you have a bed that

507
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:05.200
has an under area, but you have a lot of

508
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:08.480
stuff under there that's not you know, like and there's

509
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:13.039
like little crevices, crevices or something, so they could be

510
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:16.079
persons could be under there or something. I don't know.

511
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.680
When I was a kid, I used to keep stuff

512
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:22.079
under my bed so that there could be nothing under there.

513
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:24.240
Like I used to just stuff it with things like

514
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:26.920
like extra blankets or whatever. Like I just keep them

515
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.880
there that way, you know. That was my That was

516
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:31.319
my method.

517
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:34.720
I would be afraid because somebody could take some of

518
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:37.000
them out and then hide and you just never know.

519
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:38.480
But where would they put.

520
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:40.960
Them in the garbage? I don't know.

521
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:43.759
I mean that's a lot of effort. I mean in

522
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:44.559
the closet at that.

523
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:47.160
Point, there's literally nothing under my bed, so when I

524
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.480
look under it, I can tell immediately that no one's there.

525
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:52.400
Okay, fine, Were you afraid there was something under your

526
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:53.319
bed when you were a kid?

527
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:58.119
Well, for most of the time that I, you know,

528
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:03.319
had a bed as a kid, I had bunk beds.

529
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:05.000
So my sister was under my bed.

530
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:08.359
Oh that's worse. Yeah, you feel.

531
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:09.720
Like that's why I have to look, because I have

532
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:11.400
to make sure she's not stillware.

533
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.519
What would you do if you just are like check

534
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:15.839
out of your bed and your sister's is.

535
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.720
Like hey, I would just literally be like oh hi,

536
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:20.640
and then walk away and then be like, oh fuck,

537
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:21.440
what's happening?

538
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.359
Just like just getting a gunloading it waiting.

539
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:28.319
I mean, I was just gonna like get in my

540
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:29.519
car and go to the hospital.

541
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:33.119
But I like that, Yeah, it's like, okay, So either

542
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:35.720
my sister is actually under my bed, I've gone insane,

543
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.359
or it's a changeling. Those are the three options. So

544
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:40.799
I'm gonna go with number.

545
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.960
Two going to the hospital.

546
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:44.680
I mean, of course, you could always call your sister

547
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:46.079
like the moment you see that and be like I sure,

548
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.480
hope I hear a phone ringing under my bed.

549
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.400
Yeah, no, I'm just going to the hospital because I

550
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:57.279
could just hallucinate the ring too, So that's true.

551
00:31:57.960 --> 00:31:59.799
Do you remember when I came I came down to

552
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:01.920
hell you with your shoulder? Do you remember that first

553
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:05.720
morning I was there. I was sitting at your at

554
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.640
your dining room table doing stuff on the computer, and

555
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:12.200
I Facebook messaged you and just said, hey, tell, looks

556
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:13.519
like I'll be getting on the road a little later

557
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:14.960
than I thought, but I'm really excited to help you

558
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.240
with your shoulder. And you were plaied, Wait, you're not

559
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:19.200
here already, And then I just glared at you. So

560
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:21.559
you looked over and I was just like, is that

561
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:22.880
like this? Lookly?

562
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:26.160
Yeah? That was good.

563
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:28.599
That was pretty good. All Right, we're gonna take a

564
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.240
quick break, but when we get back, we're gonna head

565
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:34.519
to New Jersey. Oh so yeah, for something a little

566
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:46.200
lighter right after this. All right, we're back and heading

567
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:51.079
to the homeland of cell well not de Bronze, but

568
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:58.440
the other one. Okay, the other homeland, New Jersey. Okay,

569
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:03.400
we've got an article from Huffington Post. This headline caught me,

570
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:08.759
but not for the reason the other one did. Oh not,

571
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:14.559
because it was like freaking mortifying tsa catches man smuggling

572
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:21.640
live turtle in his pants at New Jersey airport. But why,

573
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.160
I mean, because you're not allowed to just bring a

574
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:25.400
turtle back from somewhere.

575
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:27.480
Why why?

576
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.480
Because it could destroy the ecosystem. You complain about stuff

577
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.559
like this sometimes, Oh, you don't remember when you like

578
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:39.200
would go off about you have gone off about like

579
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.279
invasive species. I feel like, oh I have.

580
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:46.200
Yeah, I'm just confused about why you put a turtle

581
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.799
in your pants. I understand everything. I just don't get it.

582
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:58.039
Wow, that's a cocky statement. I understand everything. Fine, you

583
00:33:58.039 --> 00:33:59.960
don't understand what I mean. Where would you if you

584
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:04.799
needed to sneak a turtle through airport? What would you do?

585
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:05.720
How would you do it?

586
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:10.360
I mean I think it's pretty, you know, like obvious.

587
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:11.960
You put it under.

588
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:16.239
A hat, like a normal size hat or one that

589
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:17.800
fits on the turtle's little head.

590
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.360
So you get like one of those top hats and

591
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.079
you put the turtle under the top hat. But first

592
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:27.440
you also have to give it a top hat, so

593
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:31.719
if someone takes off, you know, this isn't added surprise.

594
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:37.639
I'm actually really curious how they caught him. I'm hoping.

595
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:43.079
Oh oh, I'm very curious. All right. A Pennsylvania man

596
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.920
who was going through security at a New Jersey airport

597
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.159
was found to have a live turtle concealed in his pants.

598
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:55.039
According to Federal Transportation Security Administration, the turtle was detected Friday.

599
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:58.000
Oh my god, after a body scanner alarm went off

600
00:34:58.039 --> 00:34:59.920
at Newark Liberty International Airport.

601
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.239
That's kind of how I figured they'd find it. Yeah,

602
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:04.599
because they're going, Yeah.

603
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:06.239
I just assumed you would say you would refuse the

604
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.679
body scanner if you had a freaking turtle in your pants.

605
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.000
You can't refuse the body scanner.

606
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:12.719
You can opt for a pat down.

607
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:18.119
Oh that would be better. Then they'd really find the Yeah. No,

608
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:19.440
I think this is pretty funny.

609
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.400
I mean it is. But can you refuse a body

610
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:28.000
scan at the airport? Yes, you can refuse and opt

611
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:31.599
for a pat down instead. Well, the nice thing about

612
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:35.559
pat downs is some people are really lazy. They just

613
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.920
or they like it's awkward. Like I'm sure if you

614
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:39.719
like licked your lips a lot while they were doing

615
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:41.159
the pat down, they'd do a really bad.

616
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:45.920
Job maybe, or maybe they'd be into.

617
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:48.159
That or like as they patted you down, My move

618
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.480
would be to be like, let's talk about you. How

619
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:57.519
are you? A TSA officer then conducted a pat down

620
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.320
on the East Stroudsburg man and determined that there was

621
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.519
something concealed in the groin area of his pants. Okay, cool.

622
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:06.280
So it wasn't just like in a pocket. Okay, good,

623
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:07.199
because I.

624
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.840
Mean, come on, that's that's where you if you're not

625
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:11.000
gonna put it under your hat.

626
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.480
When questioned further, the man reached into his pants and

627
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.480
pulled out the turtle, which was about five inches long

628
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:22.559
and wrapped in a small blue towel.

629
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:24.840
Oh, poor turtle.

630
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.719
That sounds cozy, thing, It sounds cozy. You don't like

631
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.280
small blue towels. I like small blue towels.

632
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:37.679
No, I don't like being wrapped in towels my entire body.

633
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:43.039
I don't know. Fine, it sounds great.

634
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.639
He said. It was a red ear slider turtle, a

635
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:50.960
species that is popular as a pet. The man, whose

636
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.559
name was not released, was escorted from the checkpoint area

637
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:57.599
by Port Authority police and ended up missing his flight.

638
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:00.000
The turtle was confiscated.

639
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.719
He was smuggling it out. Oh them really interested.

640
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:08.760
And it's not clear if the turtle was the man's

641
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:14.239
pet or why he had it in his pants. Quote.

642
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.519
We have seen travelers try to conceal knives and other

643
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:21.639
weapons on their person, in their shoes and in their luggage. However,

644
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.039
I believe this is the first time we have come

645
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.480
across someone who was concealing a live animal down the

646
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:31.400
front of his pants, said Thomas Carter, TSA's federal security

647
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:34.880
director for New Jersey. As best we could tell, the

648
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:39.519
turtle was not harmed by the man's actions. Good, it's nice. Good,

649
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.599
he said. The incident remains under investigation, and it wasn't

650
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:47.920
clear if the man would face any charges or penalties.

651
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:56.760
Follow up turtle down pants New Jersey Airport. I have

652
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:03.199
to know if they figured it out. Wow, there's uh

653
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:06.519
not a lot. Oh man tried to sneak invasive turtle

654
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:10.960
through airport security in his pants? Yeah, it doesn't. It

655
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.519
doesn't seem to be a reason why they didn't.

656
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:14.639
They didn't ask.

657
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:20.920
Him, or they didn't tell the press. H Yeah, I've

658
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:24.800
tried to find like sort by date. Yeah, there's no

659
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:33.440
there's no follow ups. O. Well, what a bummer. I

660
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:39.760
really wanted to know more. Yeah, oh, well, why would

661
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:42.960
you sneak a turtle? In the airport in your pants.

662
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.159
I would never sneak a turtle in the airport in

663
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:48.440
my pants at all. It would just never happen.

664
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:52.840
Sorry, you sneak a turtle at all?

665
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:57.800
I wouldn't. I mean I would, but only if I

666
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.480
had to get it out of the country to save

667
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:04.960
its life from.

668
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.440
It wouldn't be because the friends you've made on the

669
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:11.519
internet that are monkeys overseas wanted to have a pet

670
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:13.039
box turtle for the first time.

671
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:15.960
No, No, they're not like that.

672
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:18.840
They don't like pets.

673
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.320
They don't like crime.

674
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:29.159
Have you met the same monkeys I've met? Because they

675
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:30.480
love mischief.

676
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:31.920
It's different.

677
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:33.920
It's actually kind of endearing about them.

678
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:36.480
Yeah, that's why I don't like monkeys.

679
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:38.920
Whoa I thought you did.

680
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:41.199
No, you just put that on me.

681
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:44.840
Well, it seems like you want them to live among us,

682
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:46.400
so that made me think that you like them.

683
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:50.480
I just don't. I just don't know what I'm talking

684
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:51.360
about anymore.

685
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.039
That's okay. I never know what I'm talking about either.

686
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:59.119
But when we get back, we're going to go this

687
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:02.199
article looks prett creepy. Actually, we're gonna head back in

688
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:07.440
time to the Victorian era sort of right after this.

689
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:17.159
All right, we're back and this this is another one

690
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:20.679
from the Irish Sun. I gotta say the haunted and

691
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:24.679
creepy news stories really big in the UK and surrounding areas.

692
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.760
H Like I always find something, but this headline definitely

693
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:35.400
made me curious. Inside creepy abandoned cemetery morgue with eerie

694
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:40.840
Victorian era funeral hearse and autopsy table left to rot

695
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:48.199
for decades. Wow, spooky pictures reveal morgue that's falling apart.

696
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:53.559
So I'm gonna show this to you, Chelle. Yay, Wait,

697
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:57.119
that's not the what what the hell? It's showing you

698
00:40:57.159 --> 00:40:57.719
the wrong thing.

699
00:40:58.039 --> 00:40:59.480
It's not showing me that anything.

700
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:07.760
Really Yeah, oh boy, I'll just pretend.

701
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:08.760
Yeah, exactly.

702
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:14.679
Wow, No, I messed up. This is on me. All right. Well, first,

703
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.480
the most interesting thing to me is the autopsy table

704
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:22.960
has like street lamps, like cool like all over it.

705
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:26.000
I wish I was kidding because it looks really creepy.

706
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:28.960
They literally look like the lamps like you'd have on

707
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:30.199
the street, like the oil ones.

708
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:31.760
M cool.

709
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:36.440
Wow. The spooky building is falling apart but still has

710
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:40.199
some of the original equipment. Those equipment, those carving of

711
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:44.320
bodies one hundred and fifty years ago used. Wow. And

712
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.559
there's just a big literal stone slab, like literal slab. Ooh.

713
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:51.000
The wheels on the autopsy cart are like bicycle wheels.

714
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:54.320
Cool, like big okay, yeah.

715
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:59.360
Yeah, they're just like bicycle wheels. Wow. Yeah. Oh, I

716
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:03.079
guess that's technically a hearse. That's what they used to

717
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:06.599
be called that cart. I was mistaken. The slab is

718
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.239
where they did the autopsies, which is weird because it's

719
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:12.280
very low. The cart with the lights on it apparently

720
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:14.960
is a hearse back in those days, that's what they

721
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:15.400
called it.

722
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.599
Did they have to like sit down to do the autopsy.

723
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:23.679
It looks like you have to be on your knees wow. Ooh.

724
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:26.519
And then there's there's some exercise equipment and old bed

725
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:33.199
frame a bunch of old beds. Wow. So it's in

726
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:39.519
Belgium ooh. And it's got to its gorgeous property. It's

727
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:42.719
huge too. The abandoned morgue is part of a hospital

728
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:45.119
complex in Belgium which was used up in the up

729
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.639
up into the twentieth century. From the outside, there's a

730
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:51.199
small building with a statue of Jesus on a sign

731
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.559
of the Cross, alongside a couple of headstones set among

732
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.880
the pebbled grounds. In the morgue, there's a stone autopsy

733
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:04.639
table and Torian era hearse wow. The beautiful ancient vehicle

734
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:09.719
has carriage lamp brackets, while white metal detailing and large wheels.

735
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:13.480
The hospital section of the complex has a few more

736
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:17.280
modern comforts that patients would have used, now covered in

737
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:20.960
plaster and rubble. There are sofa chairs, stair lifts, and

738
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:25.039
the metal chassis of modern hospital beds. One British urban

739
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:29.400
explorer has even searched through the building. Chloe Urbeck's twenty

740
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:35.719
three said she found the abandoned site super spooky. Wow quote.

741
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.280
There was a little bit of a spooky atmosphere due

742
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:40.440
to the fact a storm hit while I was there.

743
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:43.480
Oh that'd be bitch. And you go into an abandoned

744
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:45.480
morgan than a thunderstorm breaks.

745
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.400
Out and then you get all like wet because the

746
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.199
roof is like soaking wet.

747
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:53.920
Yeah yeah, and you get trench foot.

748
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:56.800
Yeah because you don't ever take off your boots or

749
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:59.320
shoes or whatever ever ever.

750
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:04.119
Even in the shower no quote meaning we were hit

751
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:07.840
with both thunder and rain. Inside the mortuary, there was

752
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:12.039
a hearse and autopsy table. Chloe revealed the Morgan opposed

753
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.599
to TikTok, of course, because all news is basically reporting

754
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:23.199
TikTok's where fans were shocked to see inside. One person sorry,

755
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:23.880
please please.

756
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.360
I was going to say. Did someone say I'm shocked?

757
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:34.360
I wish? One person wrote fascinating. Oh, Another another said

758
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:39.480
wows amaze balls sick then just a little sick next week, oh,

759
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:46.440
while a third commented, Oh, I love that. I'm so

760
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:52.440
embarrassed for for journalism. Yeah, yeah, me too. That's that's

761
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.519
maybe my favorite part of the show is just kind

762
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:58.239
of like looking at journalism because I don't read the

763
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:00.519
news that much. I mean, I do, but don't you

764
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.960
know what I mean. Chloe Urbez has previously found a

765
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:09.159
creepy abandoned horror museum where she felt someone was watching her.

766
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:10.559
What the hell's a horror museum?

767
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:15.159
How is it there? An abandoned horror museum.

768
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:20.119
It's not a horror museum. It's just a it's a

769
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.119
it's they're they're using it as like because it's creepy

770
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.639
because it was a Oh no, no, it is a.

771
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.800
Horror museum that's abandoned.

772
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:34.440
Yeah, I guess so, I guess it used to be

773
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:36.400
like a museum to creep people out, so now that

774
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.360
it's all dilapidated, it looks even creepier.

775
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:40.559
Yeah I could see that.

776
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:45.440
Yeah, I'll send you this link. It's it's interesting. But

777
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:48.480
where she felt like someone was watching her, she found

778
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:52.360
old posters, with one advertising a ghost hunt event. Another

779
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.840
snap showed an old wanted for murder poster seeking the

780
00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:00.840
infamous Jack the Ripper. One stairwell appeared to have been

781
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.559
decorated to look as if blood had been splattered on

782
00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:09.119
the walls. Yeah. Yeah, that was the end of the

783
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:11.320
This is terrible. That was the end of the article.

784
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:15.639
It's just that, was it. It just it just ended, Hartstall.

785
00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:23.800
I I got nothing that was really funny. You could

786
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:26.679
you do too? Well? Though, they'd be mad, they'd be like,

787
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:31.719
you spell checked this, didn't you? You're fired? Oh make

788
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:34.760
us all look bad with your competence.

789
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:37.760
Wouldn't like pay me a lot or anything?

790
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:41.000
No, probably not, probably.

791
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:46.400
Pay me like twenty cents a word sentence. No, I

792
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:48.559
was going to say a word that that would be

793
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:50.920
actually some money after a little while.

794
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:55.480
Yeah that would be okay. Yeah, Well I thought this

795
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:58.960
would be a little bit more interesting, but it was

796
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:02.199
mostly just you know, reviewing tiktoks, which is, like I said,

797
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:07.199
that's pretty much the state of modern journalism. Yeah, but Cell,

798
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:15.119
what this next story is pretty scary because to me,

799
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:22.159
nothing is quite as terrifying as government. We'll get to that,

800
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:31.039
I know, right, We'll get to that right after these words,

801
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:39.320
before we get to this next story. Cell. Yes, did

802
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.400
I tell you I ordered some macaroni and cheese via

803
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:43.840
the Internet the other day?

804
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:45.280
No? I did not.

805
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:48.280
I had just been working a long day and I

806
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:53.039
decided that I had the blues, the Blue Box Blues.

807
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:56.079
Do you remember that crap when we were kids, a

808
00:47:56.079 --> 00:48:00.559
commercial for macaroni and cheese? Yeah, I every and then

809
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:05.360
I just want a plane box of macaroni and cheese.

810
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:07.840
I just do. It's like every now and then I

811
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.880
want ramen like like not like in any way nice,

812
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:14.159
just like the way it is. Yeah, So I ate

813
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.559
a box of mac and cheese. But then I was like, oh,

814
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.599
that was the last of my like reserve of macaroni

815
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.280
and cheese I keep in the house. So I was like,

816
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:23.679
I should probably buy something. And I was like, I

817
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:26.239
wonder what if the price on Amazon isn't too bad.

818
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.400
So I checked and it was pretty much the same

819
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:30.760
price if you bought six. It was pretty much the

820
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:32.559
same price as at the grocery store. So I was like, oh, well,

821
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:35.000
then I'll just order it now and you know, worry

822
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:39.000
about it later. So I order the six pack of

823
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:44.760
mac and cheese and then find out that the sale

824
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:48.800
was was like on individual boxes, but that you combine

825
00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:50.079
them it got the price lower.

826
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:51.119
Ah.

827
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:54.280
So it was six different orders all at once, and

828
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:55.800
I was like, well, that's kind of annoying. And then

829
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.199
when I came home last night from the cigar lounge,

830
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:02.559
there were six Indivision jewel envelopes, each with one box

831
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:04.280
of macaroni and cheese in them.

832
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:06.599
Wow. Wow.

833
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:10.159
I ordered them as a group package, like it was

834
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:12.159
very very unexpected.

835
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:13.880
That's really interesting.

836
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.159
So just six padded mailing envelopes each with one box

837
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:21.480
of mac and cheese, and I got, you know, like

838
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:25.400
six your thing was delivered notices all at once.

839
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:27.800
Did you get six pictures too?

840
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:33.079
Oh? I did, Yeah, of the exact same pile of

841
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:38.599
Oh I just wanted to share that.

842
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:41.800
Yeah, I wonder if it's cheaper for some reason you

843
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:43.840
use those little mailers. So they were just like, let's

844
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.000
just I'm just not even combine.

845
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:49.199
Whenever packaging makes no sense, but not in like a

846
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:51.800
destructive way, because I've also had bad experience with Amazon

847
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:56.519
sending me like packages of sparkling water on top of

848
00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:58.440
a blu ray of a movie and the case is

849
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:02.360
just smashed and I'm like, God, damn it. So I've

850
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:04.519
definitely had that happen. But I've also had you know,

851
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.119
where things come in a way too big box but

852
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.280
like you know, padding it has to be because it's

853
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:13.880
cheaper for them to just get it out, yeah, than

854
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:15.880
it is for them to go and find the right

855
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.119
packaging for it or go and like put them all together,

856
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.960
because it's you know, if anything is an economy of scale,

857
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:24.760
it's Amazon.

858
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:25.719
Yeah.

859
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:28.280
So whenever I get something that doesn't make any sense,

860
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:30.320
I'm like, it probably made sense in the moment that

861
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:33.000
it just needed to be done and didn't really matter

862
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:35.159
if the box was too big or whatever. It would

863
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:37.320
have cost more money for someone to go and find

864
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.000
the right one, yeah, than to just put it out

865
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:41.199
and get it out and put it in and get

866
00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:42.559
it out and put it in and get it out.

867
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:50.119
So anyway, speaking of bizarre inefficiencies. This story from the

868
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:56.159
Huffington Post says New Zealand parmelent Parliament ghost tour shows

869
00:50:56.199 --> 00:51:01.920
off its spooky side. The New Zealand's Parliament is doing

870
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.559
a ghost tour. Okay ooh you know, I always thought

871
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:09.159
it'd be funny, you know if, like the if the

872
00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:12.000
federal government ran a haunted house, it would have like

873
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:15.280
two attractions and cost like eighteen point five billion dollars

874
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.039
a year to run. Yeah yeah, and like two of

875
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:22.599
the attractions would just be like those photographs that when

876
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.960
you turn your head they change a little bit. Like

877
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:27.519
that would be two of them too. I'd be like,

878
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:31.639
well those cost us. We didn't buy them, we leased

879
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:37.280
them for seventeen million dollars a month, Wellington, New Zealand.

880
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:41.960
A veiled woman burst. A veiled woman burst, screaming from

881
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.320
an elevator. The small crowd gathered in a basement corridor

882
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:49.760
of New Zealand's Parliament parl New Zealand's Parliament drew back nervously.

883
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:55.559
Their guide, wearing a trailing white gown, smiled sweetly. You're

884
00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:59.280
welcome to take the elevator, she said. Nobody did.

885
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.079
Oh, I would take the elevator.

886
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:06.760
We know you would. Mysterious deaths, unexplained noises, and late

887
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:11.000
night apparitions are not the usual fodder of daily tours

888
00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:15.639
offered at the Parliament Buildings in Wellington after hours on Thursday, however,

889
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:20.800
guides donned Victorian era garb to regale visitors with the

890
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:26.760
precinct's less savory history quote mostly factual tales of real

891
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:31.119
world tragedy and paranormal lore that have grown established among

892
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:37.079
political staffers through decades of colorful retelling. And I want

893
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.599
to mention very timely because this news articles from March

894
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:42.239
twenty first of this year, so not even around Halloween.

895
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:44.800
I love that. Yeah, well that it's not even Halloween.

896
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:51.480
Walking through a cavernous parliamentary atrium, the guide let out

897
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:54.000
a hair raising screen that echoed up to the open

898
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:58.039
windows of lawmakers offices. It explained why the so called

899
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:02.320
spooky tours are reserved for weeks when Parliament is not

900
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:06.480
in session. Then you can be like, the real horror

901
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:08.360
is how much you're paying. These people do.

902
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:10.320
Not work exactly.

903
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:16.559
Parliament's Library is a gloomy and ornate building where stained

904
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:21.400
glass windows and crystal chandeliers dimly reveal wrought iron banisters

905
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:26.880
and Venetian decor. Designed by Thomas Turnbull and completed in

906
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:30.039
eighteen ninety nine. It remains in use by staff seeking

907
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:37.079
information or some slightly eerie peace and quiet do liminal

908
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:42.519
spaces bother you? No, no, not at all. Sometimes.

909
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:45.159
I mean I don't. I don't really think about him

910
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:48.760
that much. So maybe, Well.

911
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:51.239
When you were a kid, did you did you ever

912
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.079
go to like work with your dad?

913
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:54.239
No?

914
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:58.079
No, never, No, not even on bringing your daughter to workday.

915
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:02.559
No. No, you like traveled a lot and stuff.

916
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:07.039
That's even better. No, you should have been like dad,

917
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:09.000
just wrap me in a little blue towel and put

918
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:14.079
me in your lants. I'll be fine. No. I went

919
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:17.280
to work with my mom quite a bit, in part

920
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:20.440
because a lot of the time it was just us, yeah,

921
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:24.559
And in part because at the time when I was

922
00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:27.400
a kid, they were shifting bring your daughter to work

923
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:30.960
day into just bring your child to work day, So

924
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:35.159
my mom insistently, I'm bringing my son. Yeah. So back then,

925
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.519
my mother worked in an office building downtown, one of

926
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:41.400
the biggest office buildings downtown before they moved to a

927
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:47.679
campus in the suburbs, and I loved visiting her work

928
00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:51.920
because the people were super friendly and super nice, and

929
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:57.159
they had a vending machine that had that contained only

930
00:54:57.519 --> 00:54:59.400
cherry life savers.

931
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:00.719
Wow.

932
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:04.599
Wow, I would look. I would say, I'm not kidding.

933
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:06.079
When Mom would say, like, you're coming to work with

934
00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:08.280
me on Thursday, I would save up all of my

935
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:10.440
quarters so I could get as many of those as

936
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:10.880
I could.

937
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:11.920
Wow.

938
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.480
Well, when you're like seven, do what.

939
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:19.360
I'm so confused by what? Why are They're only cherry lifesaver.

940
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:21.159
They're just the packs that are only cherry. But this

941
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:23.000
is you know, this is back in the days when

942
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:24.719
if you found something like that you had to like

943
00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:26.599
take advantage because you couldn't just go on the internet

944
00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:28.880
and be like I want a six pack of that

945
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:32.119
specific flavor of candy or whatever. It was like, whoa,

946
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:34.559
I'd never seen that out in the wild, you know.

947
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:35.559
Yeah.

948
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:38.480
So I loved going to work with my mother. But

949
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:42.519
there were a couple of times, because this was a

950
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.519
big office building, there were a couple of times Mom

951
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:48.239
and I would go in on like a Friday night

952
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:52.159
or a Saturday because she needed to drop something off

953
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:56.400
or pick something up or something like that, and every

954
00:55:56.480 --> 00:56:01.079
time I was shocked how creepy it was. Once we

955
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:03.519
got out of the elevator and we were in the

956
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:05.719
spaces where it's supposed to be full of people and

957
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:11.119
there's nobody. I find that I feel like the bigger

958
00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:14.079
the space, the more people are normally there, the creepier

959
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.400
it would be. Like if you went to like JFK

960
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:19.079
Airport and it was totally empty, it would be so weird.

961
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:20.840
Yeah, I guess.

962
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:25.159
So have you flown out of JFK before? No, Oh,

963
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.079
my gosh, it's just it's so packed. You know, it's

964
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:30.320
big and it's packed. I'm sure Newark's about the same.

965
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:32.079
I only flew out of I only fled out of

966
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:35.079
JFK and uh, the other one, LaGuardia.

967
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:37.440
You never flew out of Newark before?

968
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:43.159
Oh my god, I'm sorry. I don't know what to

969
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:46.199
say except I really am sorry. How are you? I

970
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:47.920
flew out of the LaGuardia and JFK.

971
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:51.119
That is not Newark, I know it.

972
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:58.280
With the other options fine jeez. But yeah, that was

973
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:00.760
the first time I had an experience with limal spaces,

974
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:03.519
realizing like, there's something creepy about a place meant to

975
00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:08.360
hold tons of people doing things being empty, especially once

976
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:10.840
it gets more into like you know, a warehouse, it's

977
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:12.880
like whatever, because a warehouse could have five people or

978
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:15.239
it could have seventy five people working. You know, it's

979
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:18.239
just a warehouse. But an office complex where it's like

980
00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:24.800
you're looking at three dozen cubicles all empty, that's creepy.

981
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:29.239
It just is. I think it's just a human brain thing,

982
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:33.440
you know, because we we fill in details all the

983
00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:35.280
time so that we don't actually have to pay attention

984
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:37.880
to things around us, so we can we can put

985
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:41.679
that focus toward more beneficial things like finding burritos or something.

986
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:46.320
But for me anyway, but I want a burrito so bad.

987
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:50.519
But when it comes to like walking into the spaces,

988
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.079
I feel like maybe that's the feeling in some way.

989
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:54.719
Is that feeling where we're like, we have to take

990
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:59.280
the surroundings in fully because it's not what we expect

991
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:01.519
and it's not what we're used to. Therefore we're on

992
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:03.920
edge because all of a sudden, it's like your radar

993
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.719
has to run at full power, and if your radar

994
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:09.320
doesn't run at full power, you're gonna think you're seeing

995
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:12.519
fucking people around mm hmm. You're gonna think you saw

996
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.559
somebody at the copy machine because you're supposed to see

997
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:18.960
people at the copy machine, but there are none. That's

998
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:20.199
what I think makes it creepy.

999
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:24.440
Okay, I can understand that. I don't know if I

1000
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:27.199
it's like something that I don't know if I've thought

1001
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:30.679
about enough to like say like, oh, I agree, you know, sure,

1002
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:33.320
but I do find places where there are lots of

1003
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:34.519
people really upsetting.

1004
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:37.039
So I'm not sure when the people are there yet.

1005
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:41.880
Oh okay, fair well, we're gonna take a quick break

1006
00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:45.840
and we'll get back maybe psychoanalyzing what Michelle just said,

1007
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:48.559
and then also talking about New Zealand Parliament's ghost tour

1008
00:58:49.039 --> 00:59:04.119
right after this. All right, so Shell, you've you never

1009
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.360
found empty spaces off putting.

1010
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:11.760
More so than spaces where there's lots of people. I

1011
00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:15.039
don't know, I really don't know, but kind of nice

1012
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:16.480
when there's not people there.

1013
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:21.440
I mean, well, but see, that's the thing. If it's

1014
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:24.760
a space where sometimes there's not a lot of people

1015
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:27.719
and sometimes there's a ton, I think it makes more sense.

1016
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:32.719
Like a park could be crammed full of people, or

1017
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:35.760
there could be like two people or basically nobody. Right,

1018
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:40.400
it's a lot more average, but like an office building

1019
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:43.559
or or like an airport terminal. It's like there's gonna

1020
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:45.719
be lots of people. I mean, you know, there will

1021
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:48.199
be a varying degree, but it's not as intense, like

1022
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:51.199
it's very rare. There'll be two people. You know, there

1023
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:54.159
may be ten people, or twenty people, or one hundred

1024
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:57.440
and fifty people, but there won't be almost nobody very often.

1025
00:59:58.119 --> 01:00:02.039
Maybe I just don't no places where there aren't people

1026
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:03.639
what they're supposed to be people.

1027
01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:05.760
I thought you're gonna say maybe I just don't, and

1028
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:06.880
then you were just going to be done to.

1029
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:08.800
Yeah, it just don't.

1030
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:11.280
No, I mean it could be. I don't know. I

1031
01:00:11.599 --> 01:00:14.039
definitely thought about it a little bit more. Well, like,

1032
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.280
did you never feel creeped out like when you worked

1033
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:23.079
your your retail jobs when when there'd be nobody, Because

1034
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:26.920
actually that was probably my favorite creepy liminal space when

1035
01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:30.239
I worked at a Spencer's Gifts when the mall was empty.

1036
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:34.280
Yeah weird. I was thinking about that while you were talking,

1037
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:36.440
and I couldn't remember feeling creeped out.

1038
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:39.280
Sorry, well this was back when a mall being empty

1039
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:40.280
was unusual too.

1040
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.039
Well, I mean now yeah, yeah.

1041
01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:46.280
Well there's this one mall. I think it's still around

1042
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:50.079
down by Cincinnati that basically there's nothing there anymore except

1043
01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:53.599
this arcade that got opened up there that brings a

1044
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:55.760
lot of people. It's one where you come in and

1045
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.119
you pay twenty dollars, but that's it. Then all the

1046
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:00.719
machines are free. Okay, So it's actually pretty nice because

1047
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:02.639
like if you spend you know, more than in a

1048
01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:04.519
couple hours there, you really get your money's whether you

1049
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:06.719
buy drinks and soda and candy and stuff in there too,

1050
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.119
And there might be like a couple of up charges,

1051
01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:11.000
but like all of the arcade games, you just walk

1052
01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:14.800
up and start playing them. And but the creepy thing

1053
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:18.000
about that is we didn't know the mall, so we

1054
01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:20.280
just parked and came in and had to walk through

1055
01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:25.000
like seven minutes of dark, nothing mall to get to

1056
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:27.159
this one spot that's like totally lively and open.

1057
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:28.440
Interesting.

1058
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:30.119
It was cool. It was kind of creepy, a little

1059
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:34.159
bit creepy, like my Spencer's gift store. I remember feeling

1060
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:36.079
a little creepy when there'd just being nobody there. But

1061
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.519
it was quiet. That's the other thing. Spaces that are

1062
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:43.000
not normally quiet being quiet is really weird. Okay, Like

1063
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:45.920
I feel like that was weirder with the mall than

1064
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:48.320
not seeing anyone was just how quiet it would be.

1065
01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:52.519
There's no musac, there's no people talking. It's just really

1066
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:58.280
all you're hearing is maybe your footsteps. Yeah, Spoopy, one

1067
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:00.960
day we'll figure out what actually scares you than other people.

1068
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:02.599
Oh the good luck.

1069
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:08.880
Parliaments. Oh I read that part. When visitors arrived Thursday,

1070
01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:11.760
they were greeted by spectral figures who shrieked as they

1071
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:16.079
glided down staircases beneath the portraits of former head librarians

1072
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:19.920
and New Zealand prime ministers. That sounds scary. The last part,

1073
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:24.239
tour guides told a hushed audience that the library was

1074
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:27.960
imperiled by a savage storm that struck Wellington in nineteen

1075
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:31.239
sixty eight, sinking a passenger ferry in the harbor, with

1076
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:36.719
the deaths of fifty three people. Oh whoa nobody tell

1077
01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:38.679
them about Vietnam. It was happening at the same time.

1078
01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:40.360
It wasn't right there.

1079
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:47.400
It was actually closer than us. Yeah, the tempest lash.

1080
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:52.199
The tempest lashed Parliament too, tearing out skylights and prompting

1081
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:54.559
librarians to climb onto the roof as they tried to

1082
01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:59.199
protect the books. According to a guide who sported Victorian

1083
01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:03.079
garb and dark shadows under her eyes, I hope nobody

1084
01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:04.519
caught that I accidentally said roof.

1085
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:06.840
Oh I didn't.

1086
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:11.280
Good. Now everyone knows I'm trying. So I've been my

1087
01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:15.519
whole life trying to get that out. Why because it's roof.

1088
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:18.280
It's whatever you wanted to be.

1089
01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:22.119
No, it's roof, not roof, it's roof.

1090
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:23.639
That's just your accent.

1091
01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:27.400
I don't have an accent. Oh, dare you?

1092
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:28.679
You do have an accent?

1093
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:42.599
It's roof, it's orange, it's Trenton. No, it's Florida. No quote.

1094
01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:46.840
For mysterious and unknown reasons, they did this in their underwear.

1095
01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:48.079
She told the visitors.

1096
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:51.119
They don't want to get their clothes wet.

1097
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:52.840
I would assume it, so they have dry clothes to

1098
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:53.159
put on.

1099
01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:53.840
Yeah.

1100
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:57.159
Yeah, quote. There seems to be a history of people

1101
01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:02.639
losing their pants here in this parliament. She says that.

1102
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:05.440
She's like, anyway, here's a list of sexual assaults. It's

1103
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:11.239
just like, thanks, The guide added with relish, I haven't

1104
01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:15.760
even started on the politicians. That's funny. I like good. Eventually,

1105
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:18.679
the tour turned to lawmakers too. Well known in New

1106
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:22.639
Zealand is the story of William Larnak, a politician who

1107
01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:25.320
in eighteen ninety eight was found dead in a room

1108
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.239
at Parliament with a revolver in his hand while experiencing

1109
01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:31.159
financial and family strife, So.

1110
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:32.280
He killed himself.

1111
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:37.559
Well, I wouldn't get ahead of yourself. Larnick's ghost, some claim,

1112
01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:43.719
remains in the building. His skull, however, was stolen. Why

1113
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:47.239
someone stole a skull and in nineteen seventy two was

1114
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:51.320
rediscovered in a college student's bedroom.

1115
01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:58.639
Oh. I mean, I have some questions, but not a

1116
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:02.559
lot actually, because I assume that like somehow it ended

1117
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:05.559
up at a university because somebody sold it and the

1118
01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:07.639
university was like, I don't know, and then some college

1119
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:11.519
students was like, oh cool and just took it.

1120
01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:13.440
It's sad because since it's the seventies, I feel like

1121
01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:15.199
it's a little too early for them to have turned

1122
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:21.119
it into a bong. But maybe they did. Another spirit

1123
01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:24.559
reported to Linger is that of the first full time librarian,

1124
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:29.320
Ewan McCall, whose death was partly attributed by some official

1125
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:34.360
sources to overwork. How do you overwm? Not picking on

1126
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:36.559
the librarians out there. I mean, I'm sincerely, how do

1127
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:38.519
you overwork a librarian to death?

1128
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.119
Maybe they just they're not allowed to go home or

1129
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:43.599
eat or anything, and then they die. Maybe they're not

1130
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:44.400
allowed to sleep.

1131
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:47.440
I feel like that's not overworking so much as that's

1132
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:57.559
like literal torture, torment and murder like um. It depends fair.

1133
01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.920
As the tour descends to the building's basement, the ceilings

1134
01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:06.360
grew low and the corridor's narrow Frantic banging resounded from

1135
01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:10.320
an apparently locked room. The subterranean floors are home to

1136
01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:14.480
an archive containing the historical and esoteric. It's also the

1137
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:18.320
sight of some of the building's strangest reported occurrences. Tour

1138
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:22.360
guide said. Urban legends passed down by staff include stories

1139
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:26.760
of hands reaching out from the stacks, songs emanating from

1140
01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:31.159
empty bathrooms. I can hear it come in in the

1141
01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:35.320
to night. That must be the song, the apparition of

1142
01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:39.719
a ghostly woman in a mirror, and locked doors swinging open.

1143
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:45.559
More earthly horrors included a cat, that's all it says,

1144
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:50.920
A cat wow, a subsequent flea oh, and subsequent flea infestation.

1145
01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:53.239
Oh no, it was a cat and flea infestation in

1146
01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:55.480
nineteen seventy seven. That makes more sense if it's not

1147
01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:58.840
just a single cat. It's yeah, like the place got

1148
01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:03.519
flooded with cats with flea. After one last fright, visitors

1149
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:08.199
emerged slightly shaken into Parliament's near empty lobby as darkness fell.

1150
01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:12.239
The tour was quote a bit spookier than I expected,

1151
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:17.159
said Holly Masters, who attended the Spooky Tour now, who

1152
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:20.800
had last visited Parliament as a child. Quote, there was

1153
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:23.000
a there was quite a few deaths here that I

1154
01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:26.639
did not expect to find out about. What deaths did

1155
01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:28.840
you expect to find out about? I expect to find

1156
01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:30.840
out about Ron, Like, yeah, Ron died here, but I

1157
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:32.679
didn't think I was gonna find out all his other people.

1158
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:34.119
Yeah.

1159
01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:38.320
Another visiting visitor, Sally Giles, said she was fascinated to

1160
01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:41.039
learn the stories of those who worked and died in

1161
01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:45.480
the precinct and quote what they've left behind and how

1162
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:49.920
that surfaces every now and then. The tour guides would

1163
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:54.159
return to their regular authorized scripts on Friday's tour, but

1164
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:59.360
some said the building's spooky side was never far away. Quote.

1165
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.119
I always open up the tour route in the morning,

1166
01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:05.639
said Brand, the team leader. It does always feel a

1167
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:08.400
bit tingly when you're the one, when you're one of

1168
01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:10.559
the first people walking around.

1169
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:15.360
Hmmm, h good.

1170
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:16.760
Job, New Zealand. You interested me.

1171
01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:20.399
I am I actually thought that that. I mean, you

1172
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:22.760
delivered it very nicely, but I thought it was written

1173
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:23.399
pretty well.

1174
01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:26.680
No, it was surprisingly No, That's what That's what inspired

1175
01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:28.640
me to read it with like such gusto, was that

1176
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:32.960
it was like flowing great. Yeah, yeah, yeah that was

1177
01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:35.319
Who was that? The Huffington Post? I think so I

1178
01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:36.680
just closed it, damn it.

1179
01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:39.079
Oh, I'm pretty sure that's what you said.

1180
01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:42.000
Yeah, I think it was the Huffington Post. Well, when

1181
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:45.479
we get back, we have something really weird and I'm

1182
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:48.920
excited to read it. So well, we'll be back in

1183
01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:59.560
just a moment. We're back, and this story is from

1184
01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:03.000
the New York Posts, so you know it's good. I

1185
01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:04.960
don't know how I missed this story, because this actually

1186
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:07.880
came out a little a few months ago, but I

1187
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:12.439
completely completely zoomed right past me. Rocker Alice Cooper's daughter

1188
01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:16.560
claims her friend had orgasmic sex with a ghost.

1189
01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:19.640
Oh okay, you.

1190
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:20.840
Thought that, you were like, oh, I thought this would

1191
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:21.680
be something strange.

1192
01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:25.159
Yeah, yeah, this is pretty pretty average.

1193
01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:30.279
Well, thank you. The daughter of shock rocker Alice Cooper

1194
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:36.319
says ghosts are the daughter of this is what it says.

1195
01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:39.359
The daughter of shock rocker Alice Cooper says ghost are real.

1196
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:44.439
Wow. Ghost just the one, just the one. Maybe that

1197
01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:46.199
movie Ghost.

1198
01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:48.039
I do love that movie Ghost.

1199
01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:49.640
It's pretty good. Yeah.

1200
01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:54.560
Her and her friend even had sex with one.

1201
01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:55.119
Wow.

1202
01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:04.000
Calico Cooper forty three says she experienced a spooky encounter

1203
01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:07.479
while on a boat when she felt a presence following

1204
01:10:07.520 --> 01:10:12.560
her and watching her. The singer, dancer, and stage performer

1205
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:16.439
made the revelation to Brocarti, a British singer who once

1206
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:18.920
famously married then divorced a ghost.

1207
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:20.960
Oh okay.

1208
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:24.079
Kaliko is the daughter of shock rock singer Alice Cooper,

1209
01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:28.199
famous for his gothic horror persona. She and Brocardi recently

1210
01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:31.600
met at Wacken at Whacken Open Air and bonded over

1211
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:34.319
ghost sex and their sightings.

1212
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:35.319
Wow.

1213
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:41.720
I mean, I guess you gotta find the ways to bond, right, Yeah, yeah,

1214
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:45.560
Brocarti said quote. I find it fascinating that the thing

1215
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:48.680
everybody wants to know about is ghost sex. Do you

1216
01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:50.399
do you?

1217
01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:54.319
I mean, maybe.

1218
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:59.119
You think that that's you think it's fascinating. Everybody wants

1219
01:10:59.119 --> 01:10:59.840
to know about that?

1220
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:06.039
Well, I mean, yeah, yeah, I feel.

1221
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:07.840
What you're like. I feel I thought they'd be more

1222
01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:11.600
interested in, like how did the wedding certificate get issued?

1223
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:12.039
Or now?

1224
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:16.039
Actually I am more interested in that. I'm really confused.

1225
01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:19.479
I'm guessing it wasn't issued. If it was a legal marriage,

1226
01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:22.079
there would have to have been like a hearing for

1227
01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:22.680
the divorce.

1228
01:11:23.239 --> 01:11:27.399
Mmmm. I want to know about all that stuff.

1229
01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:32.359
Quote. I will always get asked that question when talking

1230
01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:37.239
about being married to ghost. Maybe maybe it's its name

1231
01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:37.680
as well.

1232
01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:40.159
Yeah.

1233
01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:42.840
I think it's brilliant because I think strangers would be

1234
01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:45.680
slightly more cautious when asking you about how good sex

1235
01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:48.039
with a human partner is, yes, because they've all had

1236
01:11:48.079 --> 01:11:52.159
sex with a human partner in theory, like what, you

1237
01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:57.319
married a ghost and yeah, you know what, and you

1238
01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:00.399
didn't just marry a ghost. You told everybody you married

1239
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:00.840
a ghost.

1240
01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:04.720
Yeah, so of course they want to know about the

1241
01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:06.520
sex or something, and.

1242
01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:08.439
Well, they would at least want to well, I mean,

1243
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:13.199
what else. Okay, So okay, you let's say let's do this. Okay,

1244
01:12:13.560 --> 01:12:15.520
you are in a room with a woman who has

1245
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:19.840
proclaimed publicly in news and media that she was married

1246
01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:24.000
to a ghost. Okay, what do you want to ask? So?

1247
01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:25.359
Did you have a wedding?

1248
01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:29.560
Women are so like that they just want to know

1249
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:30.239
about the wedding.

1250
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:33.239
Like if if the person is like I had sex

1251
01:12:33.279 --> 01:12:36.199
with ghosts, I'm gonna ask like, well how was that?

1252
01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:40.319
But if it's about being married, I want to know

1253
01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:42.319
like the details, like was there a wedding?

1254
01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:43.920
Was there a cake?

1255
01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:47.479
Yeah? Like did the ghost eat the cake? Like? How

1256
01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:51.720
did this happen? Who was like in the groom's party?

1257
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.279
Because there's good he's dead? Like, and how did they

1258
01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:56.560
get a marriage certificate?

1259
01:12:57.960 --> 01:13:02.079
Oh, there's a video of the vowel. Oh, there's just

1260
01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:04.399
nobody there. It's just her and a priest and then

1261
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:05.720
nobody was.

1262
01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:11.479
But like did people come to this? Were they? How crazy?

1263
01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:12.119
Are you?

1264
01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:12.319
Like?

1265
01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:13.119
What's going on?

1266
01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:16.880
Apparently the ghost name was EDWARDO.

1267
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:20.239
Oh that's good. Then how come she's not referring to

1268
01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:21.239
him as Eduardo?

1269
01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:27.840
I don't know? And they got married at the asylum chapel. Oh,

1270
01:13:27.880 --> 01:13:30.119
and she walked down the aisle to her own song

1271
01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:33.279
that she was singing as she was I don't think

1272
01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:36.560
I don't know it didn't say she was singing, but yeah, okay,

1273
01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:40.039
and she says that Edwardo was making sure I knew

1274
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:42.960
he was here throughout the ceremony by whispering things in

1275
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:44.560
my ear and gently nudging me.

1276
01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:50.199
Oh so, then how was the sex.

1277
01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:56.319
That you you? That was? That was solid? All right?

1278
01:13:56.359 --> 01:14:01.199
Back to the new story. Oh my gosh, I used

1279
01:14:01.239 --> 01:14:03.479
to be so shy of that question. Used to be

1280
01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:06.600
she was married to the ghost in twenty twenty two. Wow,

1281
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:08.199
so do that long ago?

1282
01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:08.680
Of course?

1283
01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:12.359
Well they're in show business, so you know how those

1284
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:16.079
weddings are. Yeah. I used to be so shy of

1285
01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:18.520
that question, but it makes me laugh now because everybody

1286
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:22.479
wants out of this world sex, So I'm quite lucky, really,

1287
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:27.840
Oh once out of this world. See, yeah, yeah, gosh.

1288
01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:31.079
Brocardi has spoken about her experience of having sex with

1289
01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:34.880
a ghost on several occasions, describing ghost sex as very

1290
01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:42.079
erotic and powerful. Okay. She believes ghosts to be energy

1291
01:14:42.119 --> 01:14:44.760
forces that can touch your body in the same way

1292
01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:49.479
a human can and leave you feeling stimulated. Okay, but

1293
01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:54.359
how's the alimony work exactly? On an episode of Say

1294
01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:58.920
Yes to the Dress, Brocardi described ghost sex as quote orgasmic.

1295
01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:03.279
When speaking to Tan France, Kaliko shared a story about

1296
01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:07.319
how this is so bad. Kaliko shared a story about

1297
01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:10.920
how he friend I think they met her friend had

1298
01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:15.399
experienced ghost sex. Man, this is bad, Brocarti said, quote.

1299
01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:17.359
I love it when I meet people and they are

1300
01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:19.439
not afraid to talk of ghosts and things that are

1301
01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:21.680
out of the ordinary. I have such a curiosity for

1302
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:25.359
the topic, and I love to learn and embrace everybody's encounters.

1303
01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:29.479
Kaliko also shared with Brocarti a ghost encounter she had

1304
01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:34.239
whilst on board the Queen Mary in the Long Beach. Okay,

1305
01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:37.399
Kaliko felt the presence of a ghost following her and

1306
01:15:37.479 --> 01:15:40.680
watching her. See They're like, you wouldn't ask how the

1307
01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:42.840
sex is with a human partner. Okay, well you would

1308
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:45.119
call that fucking stalking if it was a human person.

1309
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:49.960
By the way, this following her and watching her, she said,

1310
01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:53.840
the encounter, Oh god, this gets awful to me. I'm sorry,

1311
01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:57.760
She said. The encounter made her feel chosen. That's creepy.

1312
01:15:58.079 --> 01:15:59.199
It is pretty creepy.

1313
01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:03.159
I thought I felt stalked, but then I also felt like, yay,

1314
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:07.479
I'm wanted. That's well. I was about to say that

1315
01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:09.680
sounds like your dad was there. We have it. Yeah, yeah,

1316
01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:12.760
that sounds Cooper. So there you go. Yeah yeah, maybe

1317
01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:15.319
instead of tooring, you should have went to her viola recital.

1318
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:20.479
Then maybe she In this news story, Brocardi divorced her

1319
01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:23.039
ghost lover by means of an exorcism.

1320
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:32.920
Oh fuck her, Okay, I'm done. Fuck that is not okay.

1321
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:37.560
I forgot how you feel about exorcisms. We expect we

1322
01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:40.960
learned about that a lot of Yeah, yeah, what the fuck,

1323
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:47.560
But it hasn't stopped her curiosity about reach researching into

1324
01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:53.439
the paranormal world. Over the last year, Brocardi has traveled

1325
01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:55.640
the world in order to learn more about her ghost

1326
01:16:55.640 --> 01:17:02.000
whispering abilities. She's conducted paranormal paranormal investigations in some of

1327
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:05.119
the world's most haunted locations. She's been locked in an

1328
01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:10.279
executioner chamber on death row. She's adopted a possessed. It

1329
01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:17.359
doesn't there's no word she adopted a possessed. Oh, it

1330
01:17:17.479 --> 01:17:20.840
literally says she adopted it possessed, and then the next

1331
01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:24.279
line starts, there's no punctuation or anything. She adopted a

1332
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:27.520
possessed And then it says Bricardi has also interviewed the

1333
01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:32.359
world's most respected rock bands about their supernatural encounters.

1334
01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:33.760
Oh so.

1335
01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:38.640
She adopted a possessed Yeah, I mean.

1336
01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:43.600
That could be anything a doll, probably or house.

1337
01:17:47.199 --> 01:17:50.359
I adopted a possessed clown doll after my marriage, That's

1338
01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:50.880
what it is.

1339
01:17:51.359 --> 01:17:52.079
I'm so confused.

1340
01:17:52.079 --> 01:17:55.439
And she claims that the doll made her ex jealous, but.

1341
01:17:55.479 --> 01:17:58.760
I thought that they exercised him.

1342
01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:02.079
Yeah, I'm starting to think this isn't very true.

1343
01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:06.760
Also, I feel like I didn't learn anything about the sexon. No,

1344
01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:09.920
there's like nothing then except it was good.

1345
01:18:10.119 --> 01:18:16.159
Like the fuck. Well, don't worry, Chelle, because after this

1346
01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:18.439
quick break, we're gonna cover one more story and we're

1347
01:18:18.439 --> 01:18:22.760
heading back to our stalwart, our good friends at Mirror

1348
01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:35.279
dot co dot uk right after this. And now we're

1349
01:18:35.359 --> 01:18:43.359
returning like the Prodigal Sun to Mirror dot co dot UK. Yay,

1350
01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:49.680
so this one good headline. I was burnt at the stake,

1351
01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:54.880
but my past life flashbacks show I'm here for one reason.

1352
01:18:55.239 --> 01:18:59.359
Now, Okay, sure, you're like.

1353
01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:05.680
Yeah, okay. It was four am and Alexandra whenman was

1354
01:19:05.680 --> 01:19:07.760
in a B and B high up in the mountains

1355
01:19:07.800 --> 01:19:12.239
of Cusco Peru eleven thousand feet above sea level. Since

1356
01:19:12.319 --> 01:19:15.840
arriving the day before, she had been suffering from altitude sickness,

1357
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:19.680
feeling dizzy and nauseous. Quote. I woke up in the

1358
01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:23.560
early hours feeling terrible, and I searched in my bag

1359
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:30.600
for my rainbow obsidian. I carry crystals everywhere, says Alexandria

1360
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:34.720
forty seven from Tottenham, North London. Quote. I'd brought this

1361
01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:38.079
crystal because it's a grounding stone. It pulls you back

1362
01:19:38.119 --> 01:19:40.199
to earth. I knew that being high up in the

1363
01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:43.159
altitude would affect me and my long standing fear of

1364
01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:46.920
heights would surface. Two very intuitive she figured out that

1365
01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:49.439
being up high would affect her fear of heights.

1366
01:19:49.920 --> 01:19:54.840
Yeah, I actually wouldn't think that the altitude would affect

1367
01:19:54.840 --> 01:19:57.359
your fear of heights because it's not like she's on

1368
01:19:57.439 --> 01:20:00.239
a bridge and she's looking down all that way, just

1369
01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:04.399
in a place. So unless yeah, so I think that

1370
01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:06.439
that's bullshit. But that's over.

1371
01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:11.800
Oh are you just gas lampinger? So holding the crystal,

1372
01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:17.119
Alexandra hoped its healing properties would reduce her nausea. However, hey,

1373
01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:17.920
maybe you should try that.

1374
01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:19.479
Yeah. Sure.

1375
01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:24.960
How However, within seconds of touching the stone, Alexandra was

1376
01:20:25.159 --> 01:20:31.960
experienced a terrifying past life flashback. Oh quote. I saw

1377
01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:35.199
myself in the Inca city of Machu Picchu, and I

1378
01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:39.720
was being punished for stealing grain. My hands were brutally

1379
01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:42.800
hacked off by guards. Then I was put into a

1380
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:47.439
net and lowered over a cliff, says Alexandra. Quote. The

1381
01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:50.079
vision was like a memory, but stronger.

1382
01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:51.000
Hmm.

1383
01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:56.039
I was reliving the moment. I could smell the earth

1384
01:20:56.079 --> 01:20:59.039
and feel the intense pain as I hung over the cliff.

1385
01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:01.800
I saw myself trying to grab the rock face with

1386
01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:10.560
my bleeding stumps. Funny, it is funny. Then I fell

1387
01:21:10.600 --> 01:21:11.119
to my death.

1388
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:12.039
Yay.

1389
01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:18.000
The vision ended, but Alexandra instinctively understood that her long

1390
01:21:18.039 --> 01:21:22.279
standing fear of heights had come from this past life.

1391
01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:25.680
The following day, oh quote. The following day, I visited

1392
01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:29.239
Machu Picchu and explored the ruins. It didn't take me

1393
01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:31.760
long to find the spot on the path near the

1394
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:35.640
cliff edge where I'd fallen to my death centuries before.

1395
01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:40.079
I quietly said words of forgiveness for my killers and

1396
01:21:40.119 --> 01:21:46.880
for myself. My altitude sickness vanished. That's interesting, and my

1397
01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:50.960
fear of heights eased since this experience, in twenty sixteen,

1398
01:21:51.399 --> 01:21:56.960
my phobia hasn't returned. Wow, So maybe your fear of

1399
01:21:57.000 --> 01:21:59.840
crowds has to do with a past life thing.

1400
01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:02.920
Yeah, I mean, I don't see why not. Maybe a

1401
01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:04.479
crowd killed me, that's how.

1402
01:22:04.720 --> 01:22:06.560
Yeah, Or you killed a crowd.

1403
01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:08.279
Maybe I killed a crowd.

1404
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:16.439
Yeah yeah, see there you go. Cool? Yeah, awesome. Although

1405
01:22:16.479 --> 01:22:21.439
this past life past life holiday experience was spontaneous, it

1406
01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:24.960
wasn't Alexander's first encounter with the spirit world. As a

1407
01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:28.079
four year old, she saw faces and angelic lights, and

1408
01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:31.760
within a few years she could sense people's emotions. Yeah,

1409
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:34.720
that's how most children are within like a four year old,

1410
01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:38.239
within a few years they start to have empathy. That's

1411
01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:42.479
that's the thing. Quote. My mother, Barbara, a nurse, and

1412
01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:46.000
my father, John, a doctor, were practical people, but they

1413
01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:49.640
supported my gifts. My mother comes from a long line

1414
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.239
of psychics. They were practical people. My mother, of course,

1415
01:22:53.279 --> 01:22:54.399
from a long line of psychics.

1416
01:22:54.479 --> 01:22:58.119
Yeah, okay, I mean she didn't she didn't say what

1417
01:22:58.199 --> 01:23:01.600
her mom was doing. Was like maybe her mom wasn't

1418
01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:04.279
into that. So that's yeah, practical.

1419
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:07.159
As a child, her lifelong belief in their power and

1420
01:23:07.239 --> 01:23:10.880
ability to help commune with the other side began. She

1421
01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:14.119
also learned that each crystal is believed to be linked

1422
01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:18.600
to different traits. For instance, rose quartz promotes love and compassion,

1423
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:25.199
and orange satellite boosts creativity. Hmm, I gotta be honest.

1424
01:23:25.199 --> 01:23:27.840
The only crystal I know that really boosts creativity and

1425
01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:33.479
productivity is meth Quote. When I was twelve, I bought

1426
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:36.680
my first two crystals, a rose quartz and an anthist.

1427
01:23:37.399 --> 01:23:39.880
I carried the stones everywhere and slept with them under

1428
01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:44.399
my pillow. The crystals felt alive and like friends. I

1429
01:23:44.479 --> 01:23:46.800
was bullied at school, but once I had the crystals,

1430
01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:49.479
this calmed down. They protected me.

1431
01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:52.239
She said. She hit them with the crystals.

1432
01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:54.399
She just or she just held it at tor then

1433
01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:55.920
went like, you can't do that. I have a crystal,

1434
01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:58.159
and they were like, let's get away from this weird person.

1435
01:23:58.199 --> 01:24:01.399
I don't like this anymore. She says that she learned

1436
01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:03.800
instinctively by sitting with them in her hand how to

1437
01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:07.560
listen to crystals. Quote. I discovered the messages can come

1438
01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:10.920
in various ways. I sense the information as a knowing

1439
01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:15.479
or I've flash. I have flashes of events like in Peru,

1440
01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:21.000
or hear words. So basically every way that you could

1441
01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:23.800
get a message is how you You either have a

1442
01:24:23.840 --> 01:24:27.239
feeling or see flashes or hear words, So basically all

1443
01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:29.479
the ways, all the way. Like the only one she

1444
01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:32.279
didn't mention was that sometimes I smell the messages. That's

1445
01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:34.960
the only one she didn't throw in there. Yet it's coming,

1446
01:24:35.079 --> 01:24:39.199
it's coming. It's the stink courts. That's how the stink

1447
01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:43.039
courts talks to you. My mum had taken me to

1448
01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:45.720
the Crystal Castle in Byron Bay, near where I grew

1449
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:48.359
up in Australia. It's the home to some of the

1450
01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:52.399
world's biggest crystals, set in beautiful gardens. That explains why

1451
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:55.159
nothing bad has ever happened in or around Australia because

1452
01:24:55.199 --> 01:24:59.239
of all these giant crystals. Quote. As soon as I

1453
01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:01.520
was out of the car, I spotted a rose quartz

1454
01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:05.039
obelisk taller than me. I felt the stone calling and

1455
01:25:05.119 --> 01:25:07.720
ran over and put my arms around its middle. The

1456
01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:10.159
crystal gave me flashes of a past life as a

1457
01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:13.680
female Aboriginal elder. It was a powerful moment, and I

1458
01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:25.520
understood that crystals are record keepers. So this is just

1459
01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:31.359
I'm sorry, this is an annoying, obnoxious white lady who

1460
01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:38.279
is fantasizing about being people of other cultures and dying.

1461
01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:41.960
I'm sorry, that's how I feel.

1462
01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:46.119
So she only should fantasize about being her own culture.

1463
01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:48.920
And yes, yes she should. She should be like I

1464
01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:51.800
was a river dancer and then I was shot by

1465
01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:54.199
Napoleon's army. That's what it should be.

1466
01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:58.840
Hmmm. I feel like that's racist too, but.

1467
01:25:58.880 --> 01:26:03.840
It's better racist. Oh no, I mean from her perspective,

1468
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:06.680
not from mine. I mean, like, like in general, it's

1469
01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:07.479
better racist.

1470
01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:11.039
I don't know, I don't know how I feel. I mean,

1471
01:26:11.079 --> 01:26:13.720
because I do understand your point, especially when you when

1472
01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:15.640
she was like I went here, and now I think

1473
01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:18.520
that I, you know, was from this tribe.

1474
01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:20.600
Thru Yeah it was Inca, Inca.

1475
01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:22.039
Yeah, it's a little bit weird.

1476
01:26:22.319 --> 01:26:24.359
And then it's like I was an aboriginal person. Like

1477
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:27.079
it's like, uh, it just it just drives me crazy

1478
01:26:27.079 --> 01:26:29.439
because you know, you have that kind of thing with

1479
01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:33.600
these like you know, woo woo white ladies. It's like,

1480
01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:36.920
I'm forty, I'm bored. I want to be something else,

1481
01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:40.359
like desperately, so the courts will do it.

1482
01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:45.560
I mean, I don't know if it's that complicated, she

1483
01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:47.319
could just literally be crazy.

1484
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:53.159
I mean that we can hope. Oh so I'm going

1485
01:26:53.199 --> 01:26:55.199
to skip ahead because this article is shockingly long and

1486
01:26:55.199 --> 01:26:59.039
it's mostly about how the crystals emit things h and

1487
01:26:59.079 --> 01:27:03.720
I just don't I don't care. But she said, I'm

1488
01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:06.399
never shocked by the past lives that surface for my

1489
01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:09.720
clients or now for me when I'm traveling, said Alexandra.

1490
01:27:10.079 --> 01:27:16.920
Since Peru, I've experienced FLA flashbacks while visit visiting France, Ibiza, Brazil, Bali, Australia,

1491
01:27:16.960 --> 01:27:20.039
Guatemala and Thailand. I thought she said she was from Australia.

1492
01:27:20.279 --> 01:27:23.920
Yeah, I thought so too, But I don't know. Maybe

1493
01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:27.199
she just went there again and she got another flashback.

1494
01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:30.119
In Carcasso in France in twenty seventeen, I experienced a

1495
01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:33.359
flashback of being burnt alive at the stake for being

1496
01:27:33.399 --> 01:27:37.199
a heretic. Why do you have such interesting lives too?

1497
01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:40.399
That's the other thing, like lucky, Like I hope she

1498
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:44.680
dies horribly now, otherwise she's broken the chain and become boring.

1499
01:27:45.279 --> 01:27:48.520
Well, it's possible she's had hundreds of thousands of past

1500
01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:50.920
lives and she just remembering the cool ones.

1501
01:27:52.039 --> 01:27:54.960
Well, I mean, but they would have to not overlap right.

1502
01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:58.039
Oh, I don't know is that how that works?

1503
01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:01.960
I have no idea. While on holiday and Abiza in

1504
01:28:01.960 --> 01:28:04.079
twenty eighteen, I was meditating on the beach with a

1505
01:28:04.119 --> 01:28:06.720
clear quartz crystal when I saw myself as a young

1506
01:28:06.760 --> 01:28:09.359
girl being killed by an invader on the same beach.

1507
01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:15.039
I love what it's never like. And then I was born.

1508
01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:17.960
Then I saw myself I was a peasant in London.

1509
01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:21.399
I died of you know, starvation at seventeen or something.

1510
01:28:21.439 --> 01:28:24.800
You know, it's never anything that you know interesting, it's

1511
01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:27.520
like that that actually happened. It's always something super interesting,

1512
01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:31.600
super poignant. In Thailand in twenty twenty three, I was

1513
01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:33.680
leading a retreat when I had a flashback to a

1514
01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:36.119
peaceful life as a fisherman. Okay, so that's the only

1515
01:28:36.199 --> 01:28:39.560
one there, you go. Yeah. Plus in Averbury in twenty

1516
01:28:39.600 --> 01:28:42.319
twenty four, I visited the Stones Circle and had a

1517
01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:44.520
vision of myself centuries ago with a group of women

1518
01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:46.079
bringing healing to the earth.

1519
01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:48.000
Oh that's nice.

1520
01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:50.159
I'm so glad. That's a fair point, because I know

1521
01:28:50.239 --> 01:28:53.079
we haven't had any illness or sickness since then.

1522
01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:56.920
Well maybe that's a particular part of the earth, not people.

1523
01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:59.119
But the earth itself feels better now.

1524
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:02.359
I think the combination of being in a place connected

1525
01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:05.279
to my past and my powerful crystals creates a link

1526
01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:09.119
across the centuries, says Alexandra. Often my experience leads to

1527
01:29:09.119 --> 01:29:11.640
my own healing afterwards, and I feel a calm. I

1528
01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:15.680
feel calm, like a weight has been lifted. However, one

1529
01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:18.760
of Andrea's past lives stands out. In twenty twenty four,

1530
01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:22.159
she visited Egypt and spent time at various temples and

1531
01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:25.640
the Great Pyramids in Cairo. Quote. As I stood amongst

1532
01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:30.159
the towering pyramids holding a lapus lazuli, a stone sacred

1533
01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:33.279
to the ancient Egyptians, I saw myself as an elderly

1534
01:29:33.399 --> 01:29:37.399
high priestess at the temple of Dennett of Dendera on

1535
01:29:37.479 --> 01:29:40.720
the west bank of the Nile. Quote. I knew it

1536
01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:42.880
was my time to die, and I had the power

1537
01:29:42.920 --> 01:29:45.960
to choose when to leave this earth. I watched myself

1538
01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:48.439
enter the temple and lay down on a stone altar.

1539
01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:52.279
I saw myself close my eyes, my spirit leave my body,

1540
01:29:52.520 --> 01:29:56.840
then brilliant white lights beings from the afterlife. What after life?

1541
01:29:56.920 --> 01:29:59.720
You keep getting reincarnated? You don't go to the afterlife lady.

1542
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:04.039
I think that she does, and then she gets reincarnated.

1543
01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:07.119
Oh like in Quantum Leap. Okay, I like that. If

1544
01:30:07.119 --> 01:30:09.000
it's like quantum Leap, then I'm in okay.

1545
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:09.319
Cool.

1546
01:30:10.720 --> 01:30:13.680
Suddenly Alexandra was back in the modern world, surrounded by

1547
01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:16.720
the pyramids, with tears streaming down her face. Quote the

1548
01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:19.560
powerful experience was a validation that in this life, I'm

1549
01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:24.479
continuing my destiny. I'm helping to heal people by selling

1550
01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:26.800
them crappy rocks and sitting in a room holding their

1551
01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:29.319
hands saying I'll cure your lime, disease and depression. I

1552
01:30:29.359 --> 01:30:32.399
hate people like this, I really do. I know you do,

1553
01:30:33.520 --> 01:30:39.079
because you're selling people a world that is not real.

1554
01:30:40.159 --> 01:30:42.359
Because I skimmed over some stuff because it was like,

1555
01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:45.800
honestly ticking me off and boring. But she says that

1556
01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:48.399
people see her for problems from depression to back pain.

1557
01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:52.920
Often their issues are past life based. I would not

1558
01:30:53.239 --> 01:30:57.239
treat your depression with this woman, because this woman will,

1559
01:30:57.319 --> 01:30:59.239
of course. I mean, if maybe if one of her

1560
01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:01.640
past life progress was one time I was really depressed

1561
01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:03.479
and I held a rock and thought it would help,

1562
01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:05.199
but then I killed myself instead. You know, maybe if

1563
01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:08.119
that was one of her past life regressions. I hate

1564
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:11.119
stuff like this. You're when you're dealing with people that desperate,

1565
01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:13.720
especially if it's depression and they're coming to a crystal healer.

1566
01:31:14.319 --> 01:31:18.039
They're desperate. We all have our problems, and mental health

1567
01:31:18.119 --> 01:31:21.680
is not a fucking joke. That's why I get angry.

1568
01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:26.520
It's not a joke, that's all. So if you like

1569
01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:29.600
crystals and stuff like that, you know, enjoy your hobby.

1570
01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:35.159
But shit's real. Sorry, this stuff I have a real

1571
01:31:35.239 --> 01:31:36.399
personal problem with.

1572
01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:38.600
Yeah, so you do.

1573
01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:42.039
So Michelle explain how this is all good and helpful.

1574
01:31:42.359 --> 01:31:44.880
So I can, you know, not be the jerk.

1575
01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:49.960
Oh, I don't know. I mean it could be. You

1576
01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:53.600
can pretty much make your brain do whatever you want

1577
01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:57.159
to if you believe it. You know, like you can

1578
01:31:57.199 --> 01:32:02.199
placebo yourself into feeling better. It doesn't work forever, yeah,

1579
01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:06.439
but it works for a little while. The end.

1580
01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:10.520
Fair, Well, we're gonna take a quick break and then

1581
01:32:10.520 --> 01:32:12.479
we're gonna talk about our topic, which I didn't mention

1582
01:32:12.520 --> 01:32:13.960
at the beginning of the show because we were too

1583
01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:17.920
busy talking about bleeding fingers, and that is the cropsy

1584
01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:23.119
urban legend out of Long Island. Oh so somewhat near

1585
01:32:23.319 --> 01:32:26.319
your ancestral homeland. Still not but close.

1586
01:32:27.119 --> 01:32:27.439
Yeah.

1587
01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:30.279
But the cropsy legend is something I've always been fascinated by,

1588
01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:41.439
and we'll be talking about that right after this. Oh damn,

1589
01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:46.319
oh damn. Indeed, we are about to talk about the

1590
01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:50.119
cropsy urban legend. Sheille. I'm guessing you've never heard of this.

1591
01:32:50.600 --> 01:32:51.880
I've never heard of this.

1592
01:32:52.479 --> 01:32:55.439
You somehow grew up in like a bubble of avoiding

1593
01:32:55.479 --> 01:32:57.039
all urban legends, it seems.

1594
01:32:57.399 --> 01:33:00.079
Yeah, I didn't really have friends that'll do it.

1595
01:33:00.399 --> 01:33:02.800
Yeah, I mean, although I don't know, I had so

1596
01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:05.239
few friends that I had to know about urban legends

1597
01:33:05.279 --> 01:33:07.319
like it. It was the only way I could be amused.

1598
01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:09.960
Oh, I just didn't do anything.

1599
01:33:10.720 --> 01:33:15.520
Oh that's fair, fair point. I'll give that one to you.

1600
01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:19.720
So I wanted to talk about the cropsy legend a

1601
01:33:19.760 --> 01:33:23.840
little bit because this has become a famous thing, believe

1602
01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:28.760
it or not. Movies like Friday the Thirteenth are loosely

1603
01:33:28.840 --> 01:33:32.880
based on the Cropsy legend. The film The Burning, which

1604
01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:36.560
is a very famous horror movie, is directly based on

1605
01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:41.000
the Cropsy legend. Without giving away a ton because we're

1606
01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:46.239
gonna read about this article from Historic Mysteries dot com. Basically,

1607
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:51.640
cropsy is is basically the concept of the stories of

1608
01:33:51.720 --> 01:33:55.680
like you're at a summer camp or a hospital or

1609
01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:58.479
a school, and there's a guy who worked there who

1610
01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:02.439
was kind of weird. People used to bully him adult

1611
01:34:03.479 --> 01:34:06.720
then through some horrible turn of events, he gets set

1612
01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:15.039
on fire, survives, and now he's a scarred monster haunting

1613
01:34:15.119 --> 01:34:19.000
the woods near where it happened and killing people. Okay,

1614
01:34:20.079 --> 01:34:23.199
that's like as loose as it gets with the cropsy legend.

1615
01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:26.279
So that cropsy was kind of who started all of

1616
01:34:26.279 --> 01:34:30.000
those legends in that kind of similar vein. Okay, So,

1617
01:34:30.279 --> 01:34:31.760
and there's a decent amount of him, like you know,

1618
01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:34.680
the camp counselor that got killed, or the janitor that

1619
01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:37.960
does that haunts the whatever. It's a very common kind

1620
01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:45.000
of tactic in places where kids congregate, especially Urban legends

1621
01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:48.479
are the modern version of camp campfire tales, updated for

1622
01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:51.640
city living. These spooky stories told to frighten and thrill

1623
01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:56.399
are almost always macabre, gory, or otherwise threatening, and we

1624
01:34:56.479 --> 01:34:59.399
can see this in their form. They almost always involve

1625
01:34:59.479 --> 01:35:02.079
some sort of of danger which resonates with the listener

1626
01:35:02.359 --> 01:35:06.359
because it taps into a real and present fear home invasions,

1627
01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:09.079
your car breaking down late at night, terrible things in

1628
01:35:09.119 --> 01:35:12.199
the sewers beneath your feet. You can almost see the

1629
01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:15.439
torch held underneath the face as they are told to

1630
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:21.560
wide eyed audiences. That's a good intro. Happily, these stories

1631
01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:26.199
are also near universally untrue. But sometimes at the bottom

1632
01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:31.560
of a story there is a truth. Sometimes a terrifying

1633
01:35:31.680 --> 01:35:38.159
urban legend is actually real. No, this story of Cropsy,

1634
01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:45.359
the child murdered of the child murderer of Staten Island,

1635
01:35:45.880 --> 01:35:47.880
this is that story. I may have read that weird.

1636
01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:54.000
I apologize for everything. Cropsy was a killer rumored to

1637
01:35:54.079 --> 01:35:58.399
haunt Staten Island. Oh, Staten Island, not Long Island. That's

1638
01:35:58.479 --> 01:36:00.479
an unforgivable sin. I am so sorry.

1639
01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:03.359
It's okay. I think Staten Island is funny.

1640
01:36:04.199 --> 01:36:08.439
Okay, I like, I agree. During the nineteen seventies, the

1641
01:36:08.520 --> 01:36:11.680
legend talks about a man who kidnapped young children after

1642
01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:16.960
he lost his own son. Oh, I'm interested because I

1643
01:36:17.239 --> 01:36:20.880
watched the whole documentary on Cropsy and it's changed a lot.

1644
01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:23.920
But then again, this is the true story. I think,

1645
01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:27.720
maybe sort of, this man was mentally unstable, so the

1646
01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:30.920
story went out of grief, he had resorted to stealing

1647
01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:36.359
the children of others as replacements. Oh Staten Island is

1648
01:36:37.039 --> 01:36:40.000
very different from the rest of New York. Large areas

1649
01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:44.159
of undeveloped woodland, but against the streets and houses of

1650
01:36:44.159 --> 01:36:47.600
its occupants. And in the woods there are ruins. It

1651
01:36:47.640 --> 01:36:51.119
can be easy to get lost in them. This was

1652
01:36:51.199 --> 01:36:56.800
Cropsy's hunting ground. New Yorkers often emphasized the physical when

1653
01:36:56.840 --> 01:37:00.319
they described the figure of Cropsy. For example, it is

1654
01:37:00.359 --> 01:37:03.680
said that, like a Disney film villain, Cropsy has a

1655
01:37:03.720 --> 01:37:09.600
hook for a hand. Some people believe that Cropsy looked horrible,

1656
01:37:10.359 --> 01:37:14.039
with scars and burns on his body and face. Such

1657
01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:17.560
deformities are common in these urban legends, adding to the

1658
01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:23.800
ghoulish nature of the killer. With these descriptions, it is

1659
01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:27.640
clear that Cropsy's tale is one that grew in the telling.

1660
01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:30.960
When something is included in a story which evokes some

1661
01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:35.560
fundamental fear in this way, such as a detail, such

1662
01:37:35.560 --> 01:37:39.319
a detail will be an embellishment to make the story scarier.

1663
01:37:39.560 --> 01:37:43.640
It's like doing material on stage. You say something, you

1664
01:37:43.640 --> 01:37:46.239
get laughed, so you keep saying it and trying or

1665
01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:50.239
trying to make it even funnier. Some other examples, by

1666
01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:52.840
the way, would be the mad Gasser of Matune, Illinois

1667
01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:57.079
and Perak the Springman Prog's own spring heeled jack. Those

1668
01:37:57.079 --> 01:38:01.359
are a few examples that mentioned. However, remove the hook hand,

1669
01:38:01.800 --> 01:38:05.640
the scars, and the burns and you start to approach

1670
01:38:06.199 --> 01:38:13.039
the truth. Oh there was a real cropsy and his

1671
01:38:13.159 --> 01:38:20.239
name was Andre Rand. Andre Rand was born sometime in

1672
01:38:20.279 --> 01:38:24.479
the nineteen forties. By the year nineteen eighty three, Andre

1673
01:38:24.640 --> 01:38:27.880
worked as a custodian at the Willowbrook State School of

1674
01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:31.439
Staten Island. That year, he took out a school bus

1675
01:38:31.439 --> 01:38:34.760
with eleven kids in it without authorization from the school

1676
01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:38.880
and drove the bus to New Jersey's Newark Liberty International

1677
01:38:38.880 --> 01:38:43.560
Airport fuck, where he hid a turtle in his pants.

1678
01:38:44.079 --> 01:38:49.640
Now wow. While his kidnapping attempt came to nothing, it

1679
01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:53.439
was not clear why he did it. He was given

1680
01:38:53.479 --> 01:38:58.039
a ten month sentence and the kids were rescued. Rand

1681
01:38:58.119 --> 01:39:01.039
was never a trustworthy person to the parents of the area.

1682
01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:05.119
Parents would see Rand randomly hanging out with the kids,

1683
01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:08.399
although he was much older than them.

1684
01:39:09.079 --> 01:39:09.359
Hmmm.

1685
01:39:10.199 --> 01:39:13.279
He would try to befriend them, go on walks with them,

1686
01:39:13.279 --> 01:39:15.560
and even take them to the local diner for a

1687
01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:21.119
bite to eat. Now, all this might seem good natured,

1688
01:39:22.239 --> 01:39:25.039
but his intentions were never clear, and he creeped the

1689
01:39:25.119 --> 01:39:29.600
parents and children out to a great extent. Apart from

1690
01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:33.039
his random kidnapping of a busload of school children, he

1691
01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:38.000
would also often be the last person seen with missing children.

1692
01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:43.880
Oh however, no one could ever prove that he played

1693
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:46.960
a part in the kidnapping or disappearance of the kids.

1694
01:39:47.840 --> 01:39:52.039
Many people would accuse him of kidnapping and even killing children,

1695
01:39:52.880 --> 01:39:55.359
but there simply was no proof.

1696
01:39:57.159 --> 01:40:00.720
I mean, I would say, with that kind of ill

1697
01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:05.800
advised try to escape to from Newark Airport thing, he

1698
01:40:05.920 --> 01:40:09.960
probably was not with it enough to murder people and

1699
01:40:10.039 --> 01:40:13.239
hide it. In my opinion, you.

1700
01:40:13.239 --> 01:40:17.119
Know, it sounds like he's pretty far off. Yeah yeah,

1701
01:40:17.159 --> 01:40:21.560
but things are about to take a very strange turn

1702
01:40:22.199 --> 01:40:28.479
in this story. Stranger even stranger. Oh and we'll get

1703
01:40:28.479 --> 01:40:39.560
to that right after this. All right, we're back talking

1704
01:40:39.600 --> 01:40:43.600
about the real life cropsy. At least according to Historic

1705
01:40:43.760 --> 01:40:47.960
Mysteries dot Com, it was only in the year nineteen

1706
01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:51.960
eighty seven that things began to change in Staten Island.

1707
01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:57.039
That year, twelve year old jen Jennifer Schweiger would disappear

1708
01:40:58.039 --> 01:41:01.359
in nineteen ninety eight, Andre Rand was taken into custody

1709
01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:06.720
for kidnapping and first degree murder of the child. Oh

1710
01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:12.840
it was the first disappearance with which Rand was legally tied. However,

1711
01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:16.000
it was not the last one.

1712
01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:17.239
Oh damn.

1713
01:41:18.239 --> 01:41:21.479
In the same year, he would be accused of the disappearance,

1714
01:41:22.520 --> 01:41:26.119
accused of the disappearance, accused of the disappearance of kids

1715
01:41:26.199 --> 01:41:33.760
like Alice Perea, Holly Anne Hughes, Tias Jackson, and Hank Gafforio. However,

1716
01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:37.680
he would only be charged with kidnapping of Holly Anne Hughes.

1717
01:41:38.439 --> 01:41:42.640
The interesting and terrifying fact about these charges is that

1718
01:41:42.720 --> 01:41:45.359
while the jury was able to find out that it

1719
01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:49.239
was Rand who kidnapped the children, it could never prove

1720
01:41:49.880 --> 01:41:55.520
that he murdered them.

1721
01:41:53.319 --> 01:41:56.199
That he probably murdered them, because I mean, yeah, I

1722
01:41:56.199 --> 01:41:58.680
mean maybe, I mean unless he just like threw them

1723
01:41:58.680 --> 01:42:01.119
in the woods and then they died or something.

1724
01:42:01.720 --> 01:42:03.720
Well, they disappeared. I don't think there were bodies of

1725
01:42:03.760 --> 01:42:04.479
most of them.

1726
01:42:05.039 --> 01:42:08.640
Okay, So okay, so he might have just done something

1727
01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:09.479
else with them.

1728
01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:12.560
Well, I mean, no body, it's hard to prove that crime,

1729
01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:17.600
that one crime. Yeah, so absent to murder conviction, he

1730
01:42:17.720 --> 01:42:21.920
was convicted of kidnapping on both counts. His sentence, however,

1731
01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:26.319
reflected the extreme nature of his crimes, which would put

1732
01:42:26.399 --> 01:42:30.880
him behind bars until two thousand and thirty seven. He

1733
01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:33.520
would only come out of prison if he lived to

1734
01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:34.680
see his nineties.

1735
01:42:35.359 --> 01:42:35.920
Wow.

1736
01:42:37.079 --> 01:42:39.880
In truth, Rand had been known to the police for

1737
01:42:39.960 --> 01:42:43.399
many years and had a history of crimes against children.

1738
01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:47.239
In nineteen sixty nine, he served a sentence of sixteen

1739
01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:50.359
months in jail for attempted sexual assault of a nine

1740
01:42:50.399 --> 01:42:50.800
year old.

1741
01:42:51.520 --> 01:42:52.439
What the fuck.

1742
01:42:54.279 --> 01:42:57.199
That he was employed as a custodian at a school

1743
01:42:57.239 --> 01:43:01.119
in Staten Island is a shock and unbelieva outcome after

1744
01:43:01.159 --> 01:43:06.800
that sentence. Yeah, yeah, I would say so. Yeah. However,

1745
01:43:07.640 --> 01:43:10.439
the reputation of Willowbrook State School of scott and Staten

1746
01:43:10.479 --> 01:43:13.640
Island at that time was also not so great.

1747
01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:19.199
They were like, I don't know, we can't get anyone

1748
01:43:19.239 --> 01:43:22.199
to be a janitor. There's this pedophile, I know, let's

1749
01:43:22.239 --> 01:43:22.680
get him.

1750
01:43:23.079 --> 01:43:25.199
Yeah, well he attempted pedophile.

1751
01:43:25.279 --> 01:43:27.119
They were like, oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1752
01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:31.520
Get him to fill out a W nine. However, the

1753
01:43:31.560 --> 01:43:33.800
reputation was not that great. The school was meant for

1754
01:43:33.920 --> 01:43:41.119
children who faced difficulties in learning so people who would

1755
01:43:41.159 --> 01:43:50.520
be more yeah, more vulnerable. However, instead of being a

1756
01:43:50.520 --> 01:43:53.359
safe place for such kids, that has been described as

1757
01:43:53.399 --> 01:43:57.199
a hell where the children were subjected to crimes and horrors,

1758
01:43:57.560 --> 01:44:02.760
the children would face sexual abuse, punishment, and unsanitary conditions

1759
01:44:02.800 --> 01:44:04.800
at this infamous school.

1760
01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:07.760
So we actually so we know why he was there then,

1761
01:44:07.920 --> 01:44:11.000
like because they were like, oh, just he fits so

1762
01:44:11.119 --> 01:44:12.760
well with the rest of the staff.

1763
01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:17.960
You fit exactly with our business plan. Therefore, it is

1764
01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:21.560
a possibility that Andre Rand was involved in many more

1765
01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:24.760
crimes against children, and the authorities of the Willowbrook State

1766
01:44:24.840 --> 01:44:27.640
School of Staten Island were aware of his nature and

1767
01:44:27.680 --> 01:44:31.159
disposition towards children. The public was not aware of the

1768
01:44:31.159 --> 01:44:33.920
conditions at the school or the crimes of Rand until

1769
01:44:33.920 --> 01:44:38.000
the nineteen seventies. Even then, it took more than a

1770
01:44:38.079 --> 01:44:40.640
decade to shut down the school and punish Rand and

1771
01:44:40.720 --> 01:44:44.279
other staff of the school for the atrocities they had committed.

1772
01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:48.159
By the time Cropsy was arrested in nineteen eighty eight,

1773
01:44:48.680 --> 01:44:51.199
he had been a danger to children for decades.

1774
01:44:52.680 --> 01:44:58.520
You know, you know, it's not okay. I'm supposed to

1775
01:44:58.600 --> 01:45:02.119
just take lots and lots years to get these people

1776
01:45:02.159 --> 01:45:03.199
off the streets.

1777
01:45:03.680 --> 01:45:08.199
No, it brings reassurance to Staten Islanders that the real

1778
01:45:08.279 --> 01:45:12.039
Cropsy is behind bars. The backwoods of Staten Island may

1779
01:45:12.119 --> 01:45:16.079
still be unsafe for the wary, but they do not

1780
01:45:16.239 --> 01:45:22.479
hold a child kidnapper. Probably, in the years since Cropsy

1781
01:45:22.560 --> 01:45:26.319
has proved an irresistible In the years since Cropsy has

1782
01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:30.840
proved an irresistible fascination for filmmakers, many living in the

1783
01:45:30.880 --> 01:45:33.520
area have dug deeper into the legend and have inter

1784
01:45:34.960 --> 01:45:39.039
interacted with the families that were really affected by Rand's crimes.

1785
01:45:39.840 --> 01:45:42.600
As more comes to light, it has become unclear or

1786
01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:45.600
has become clear, that Cropsy was not just a scary

1787
01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:50.479
story told to frighten people. Sometimes an urban legend can

1788
01:45:50.520 --> 01:45:57.000
be very real. This is interesting because he was I

1789
01:45:57.520 --> 01:46:01.079
knew some of the basics of the quote quote real Cropsy,

1790
01:46:02.319 --> 01:46:07.760
but there were movies like The Burning. I think The

1791
01:46:07.800 --> 01:46:12.159
Burning came out in nineteen eighty one, and that's a

1792
01:46:12.199 --> 01:46:16.199
movie where where the killer was literally named Cropsy. Yeah.

1793
01:46:16.239 --> 01:46:22.119
So I'm guessing that the concept is, or the thought

1794
01:46:22.159 --> 01:46:26.439
process is that he became infamous even before he was caught,

1795
01:46:26.560 --> 01:46:29.760
as like, there's a guy who lurks and whatever, and

1796
01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:33.079
it's just that he was brought to justice later, thinking

1797
01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:38.520
that's what it was, that sounds somewhat reasonable, I guess, yeah,

1798
01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:41.800
because yeah, cropsy, you know the concept of just the

1799
01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:46.439
evil villain. You know that kids all knew he does

1800
01:46:46.880 --> 01:46:52.079
meet that criteria, and because the school was so terrible,

1801
01:46:52.279 --> 01:46:53.000
they protected it.

1802
01:46:54.880 --> 01:46:57.279
Yeah. I mean, to be fair, I think even if

1803
01:46:57.319 --> 01:46:59.640
the school wasn't that terrible, I mean of a place,

1804
01:46:59.680 --> 01:47:02.479
not of like, they probably still would have protected him

1805
01:47:02.520 --> 01:47:05.079
because I just feel like that was, you know, more

1806
01:47:05.119 --> 01:47:07.880
common back then in that time. Yeah, in that time period.

1807
01:47:08.359 --> 01:47:11.319
What's crazy is like at the end it was like

1808
01:47:11.359 --> 01:47:14.319
the Satanic Panic was happening. You'd think that that would

1809
01:47:14.600 --> 01:47:17.840
but that didn't affect that area apparently, or that school

1810
01:47:17.880 --> 01:47:21.039
at all. Yeah, because lots of people were being accused

1811
01:47:21.039 --> 01:47:24.079
of way worse for just like spending time with your

1812
01:47:24.159 --> 01:47:26.880
kids reading books. They'd be like, you're a you know,

1813
01:47:27.039 --> 01:47:29.720
Satan worshiper and you're hypnotizing our kids. And they'd be like,

1814
01:47:29.720 --> 01:47:31.840
what the hell are you talking about? And then like

1815
01:47:31.880 --> 01:47:34.960
we group hypnotized our kids to believe this stuff. I

1816
01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:37.960
should we should do the Satanic panic sometime, like try

1817
01:47:37.960 --> 01:47:42.399
and find a good overview of it. Because it's really interesting. Yeah, so,

1818
01:47:43.119 --> 01:47:47.600
but that's the supposed true cropsy story.

1819
01:47:49.560 --> 01:47:50.720
Yay.

1820
01:47:51.399 --> 01:47:53.760
If that's the way you feel, yay is fine. I

1821
01:47:53.920 --> 01:47:59.319
was not going to go with yay. Oh wow, sorry

1822
01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:02.000
it's oh no, no, it's fine. I'm the one to blame.

1823
01:48:02.239 --> 01:48:05.000
So we're gonna take a quick break and then we're

1824
01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:07.760
gonna wrap things up. I have a few great horror

1825
01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:09.960
movies I saw in the theater to talk about, and

1826
01:48:10.039 --> 01:48:12.520
Michelle told me off air that she found one of

1827
01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:16.359
the most interesting Reddit stories she's ever read in her

1828
01:48:16.399 --> 01:48:21.199
Life's so mean, so she's gonna share it right after this.

1829
01:48:28.439 --> 01:48:32.880
All right, we're here wrapping up this month's week monthly

1830
01:48:32.920 --> 01:48:36.960
Spooky too many titles. Yeah, thank you for giving me

1831
01:48:36.960 --> 01:48:42.199
a little grace on that. But this month, Celle, this

1832
01:48:42.319 --> 01:48:45.560
last month was a really interesting time for horror movies

1833
01:48:45.680 --> 01:48:51.439
in the theaters. Yeah yeah. I saw two horror films

1834
01:48:51.439 --> 01:48:53.800
in the theater that I thought were really excellent and

1835
01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:54.800
one that was pretty good.

1836
01:48:55.039 --> 01:48:55.760
Hmm.

1837
01:48:56.359 --> 01:48:58.760
The first one I saw was The Woman in the Yard,

1838
01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:03.880
a movie that really surprised me. The concept being there's

1839
01:49:03.880 --> 01:49:06.079
a family in a house and then this woman's in

1840
01:49:06.119 --> 01:49:08.439
the yard. Who is she? What does she want, she

1841
01:49:08.479 --> 01:49:11.079
won't leave. I know, it's like it sounds silly, but

1842
01:49:11.239 --> 01:49:14.520
you know it's creepy, like she's wearing a veil and

1843
01:49:14.600 --> 01:49:17.520
sitting just sitting in a chair. They don't live near anything,

1844
01:49:17.920 --> 01:49:19.960
and there's no car around, so it's like, how did

1845
01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:22.560
she get there? Yeah?

1846
01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:25.000
I mean to me, I mean, I don't think it's funny.

1847
01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:27.319
I just think it's funny that it's called the Woman

1848
01:49:27.359 --> 01:49:30.159
in the yard, and then it's like it's about a woman.

1849
01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:35.520
In a yard the yard Okay, Yeah, I mean, we'll

1850
01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:36.960
see how much you think it's funny when there's a

1851
01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:37.800
woman in your yard.

1852
01:49:38.159 --> 01:49:40.000
That there are people in my yard all the time.

1853
01:49:40.479 --> 01:49:42.479
But if she's just if what would you do if

1854
01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:45.199
you opened your your blinds and there was just a

1855
01:49:45.239 --> 01:49:47.800
woman all in black with a black veil on, sitting

1856
01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:49.279
in a chair facing your house.

1857
01:49:49.520 --> 01:49:52.000
In your case, well, I probably not do anything for

1858
01:49:52.039 --> 01:49:54.479
a while and just hope that she goes away. And

1859
01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:57.000
then if she doesn't go away, I probably say are

1860
01:49:57.039 --> 01:49:59.520
you okay? And if she doesn't answer me, I'm probably

1861
01:49:59.560 --> 01:50:00.399
calling ops.

1862
01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:02.680
The first thing they did was ask are you okay?

1863
01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:05.960
Oh that's good, I'm glad, and then they couldn't call

1864
01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:08.680
the cops because they had their power got shut off

1865
01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:10.560
due to lack of payment and their phones are dead.

1866
01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:13.319
Oh well, I could just go to the cops.

1867
01:50:13.680 --> 01:50:16.079
Yeah, that's true, because you have neighbors. You live in

1868
01:50:16.079 --> 01:50:20.640
a neighborhood. So it was a really good movie, great atmosphere,

1869
01:50:20.720 --> 01:50:25.039
super scary, and the ending made me cry my eyes out.

1870
01:50:25.880 --> 01:50:28.159
It didn't go in the directions. I thought it went

1871
01:50:28.319 --> 01:50:32.800
in more interesting places than I was expecting. It really

1872
01:50:33.199 --> 01:50:35.319
blew me away. I was not expecting it to be

1873
01:50:35.399 --> 01:50:38.279
quite so good and so scary. It's unfortunately pretty much

1874
01:50:38.319 --> 01:50:40.319
out of the theaters already. I caught it a little late,

1875
01:50:41.159 --> 01:50:42.640
but if you have a chance to watch The Woman

1876
01:50:42.640 --> 01:50:44.760
in the Yard, I think you'll really like it. It

1877
01:50:44.840 --> 01:50:49.800
was simply scary. The next horror film I saw in

1878
01:50:49.800 --> 01:50:53.319
the theater was Death of a Unicorn, which was fine.

1879
01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:56.399
I'm not trying to be mean, but I thought it

1880
01:50:56.399 --> 01:50:58.239
would be funnier because it was supposed to be it's

1881
01:50:58.239 --> 01:51:01.560
a horror comedy. Oh, there was a lot of interesting

1882
01:51:01.560 --> 01:51:04.119
stuff about the concept of a real unicorn that was

1883
01:51:04.159 --> 01:51:08.279
pretty cool. I definitely liked that the actors were phenomenal,

1884
01:51:08.319 --> 01:51:12.279
Like every performance was completely great, but it just wasn't

1885
01:51:12.319 --> 01:51:14.520
the best movie I'd seen in the theater, you know,

1886
01:51:14.560 --> 01:51:18.119
in a while, So no hate, it was still really fun.

1887
01:51:18.159 --> 01:51:21.319
If you love Paul Rudd, you know, it's worth going

1888
01:51:21.319 --> 01:51:23.560
to see just for him, because he's very, very good

1889
01:51:23.560 --> 01:51:26.159
in it. So I do recommend checking it out. If

1890
01:51:26.239 --> 01:51:28.239
that's it's, you know, in the words of Abe Lincoln,

1891
01:51:28.279 --> 01:51:29.560
it's the kind of thing you like, if you like

1892
01:51:29.600 --> 01:51:33.039
that kind of thing without a doubt. Yeah, So Death

1893
01:51:33.039 --> 01:51:35.760
of a Unicorn was really fun. I'm not used to

1894
01:51:35.760 --> 01:51:38.279
having so many horror releases back to back, but then

1895
01:51:38.960 --> 01:51:41.880
the last one that I saw recently that just came

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out was Sinners, which is directed by Ryan Coogler of

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Creed and Black Panther fame. He directed those films they

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were huge hits. Sinners is a movie that takes place

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during segregation and Jim Crow about these two brothers who

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bought a barn and turn it into a juke joint,

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and their raucous celebration and liveliness attracts vampires who want

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to kill them.

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Oh NPR was telling me about this.

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It's really good. It sounds sillier than it is. It's

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really good, really fun. Had a few really good scares,

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very deliberately paced. It's two hours and fifteen minutes long.

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It's not a short movie, and there are no vampires

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for like literally thirty or forty minutes. It is just

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but instead they're just establishing the world it's in, which

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is you know, Jim Crow, America and Mississippi. So it's

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fascinating to watch and it really keeps you engrossed. The

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vampires are really well done and scary. The characters are

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really interesting. They're all very multifaceted. The ending I didn't.

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It has two endings sort of. The first ending I

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thought was fine. The second ending I really loved. Ok,

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So I really enjoyed Sinners, and that's one. It's becoming

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a huge hit, which is great. So I really recommend

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seeing that one in the theater because it's gorgeous. It's

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a beautifully shot movie and it's very fun. So Sinner,

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excuse me, Sinner's super good, super super good. It's been

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a very good month for horror movies in the theater.

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That's my thought. Yay, Sochell, if you have any Reddit

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creepies for us, so I could.

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Try it to tell this one because I found I

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found several but like, so there's these kids, right, and

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this was not this was like when this person was

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a kid. Whoever they are, and I don't know how

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old they are, but they live in like London, and

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you know, I guess it's the summer, and they're like

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they just go and hang out with their friends, and

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when they get really bored, they like to climb up

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this wall that like has a golf course and I

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don't know if there's like a fence or it's like

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a stone wall and it's I don't know what it is.

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But and then they go and try to find falls,

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like golf balls because they're kids and they're weird. So

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this one day, it's like really kind of weirdly quiet

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in the neighborhood. But the kid, like the guy like

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finds his other friend and they're like, no one else

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is around, let's just go and find some golf balls,

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because that's what we do. So they walk over to

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the place that's the golf course is and they climb

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up the whatever the hell it is, I don't know,

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and they his friend gets up there first and it's

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just like staring at it, like what the fuck? He

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gets up there and it's not a golf course. It's

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like the big area that has like all of these

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weird little greenhouses, like old abandoned greenhouses that are like

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they have like like tarps on them instead of you know,

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like like plastic instead of like the glass, because they're

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old and falling apart, and they're just like lots of them.

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So they're like, Okay, maybe we went up into like

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a weird area. So they're like walking to try to

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find the golf course, which is weird because they always

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go up in the same place. They're walking in the

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just all of these greenhouses, and they just keep going

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and like they're like how much is this? This is ridiculous,

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And then his friend just stops and it's like do

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you hear that? And there's just like this really like

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low buzzing sound, like kind of you know, like that

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electrical like buzzing sound. It gets louder and louder, and

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they start like freaking out, so they start like power

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walking back, and then they hear something from behind them

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that sounds like metal, like not like a person or

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like an animal chasing them, So they're like running and

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they can't see behind them very far because they are

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all these greenhouses and all, like the plastic is blowing

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in the wind, so they like don't know what the

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fuck's chasing them. They get to the edge, they get

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back down and they're like what the fuck? So they

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tell their friends. Oh and then like when when they

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get back to the street and everything kind of normal

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traffic and stuff is resumed, it's not super quiet anymore,

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like okay, So like the next day they're telling all

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their friends like what happened, and their friends are like,

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I gotta go there, like right now and see it.

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Go back.

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It's just the golf course.

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Never figured out what happened.

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That's a really good one. Actually, yeah, I like that one.

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Yeah that's scary. Yeah, oh god, now that's really creepy.

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So did anybody postulate any theories?

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Everyone was like, oh, except one person who was like,

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I'm from London and there's just another world. But I

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didn't and you should check my comments. But I didn't

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check his comments, so I don't know, harsh, but oh,

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someone to like, have you checked like Google maps to see,

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like you know, and to see like maybe there was

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like a time slip and you went to the past

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or the future or something like that. So like maybe

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now their greenhouse is there and there weren't then, and

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he the guy was like, I can't even find the

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golf course.

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So I mean, when you're a kid, you can get

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confused and stuff too, So it's tricky. But that's really creepy. Great,

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that's a great one.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I'm glad you keep up on Reddit for us

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so we can know when there's something spooky.

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I try really hard.

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I know, Pal, I know, well, I guess it's time

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to wrap things up. So thank you Chell for hanging

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out with me for another episode of Monthly Spooky. And

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I want to say a big thank you to everybody

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who's tuned in. I know it's a surprising amount of

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people who dig on Monthly Spooky. I mean, as a

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bonus showed a Weekly Spooky. It's very different. It's not

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it's conversational, it's not just storytelling and things like that.

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So I'm really glad people are enjoying it. It's a

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place where I can let my hair down and have

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fun and involve Michelle, much to her chagrin. So thank

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you guys so much for your support and if you

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a lot to me, and you could join almost one

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hundred other spookies in keeping the show rolling and rolling,

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because we'll be hitting six years of Weekly Spooky this October.

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How Yeah, time flies so and I think we've done

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like thirty Monthly Spookies already.

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Yeah.

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I know right, They're like, Oh, I gotta take my

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own death to get out of this.

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Yeah.

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So, but thank you guys so much for joining us,

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for myself, for my producer Dan Wilder, our composer Ray Mattis,

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We'll be seeing you next month. And of course, Michelle,

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you have the final word.

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I'm trying to come up with a good final word,

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but like they.

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Didn't, so you can't stop looking at this banana.

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It's please give it to me already Okay, it's yours.