April 11, 2025

Do You Even Movie? | Return of the Living Dead (1985) - Brains, Punk, and Chaos!

Do You Even Movie? | Return of the Living Dead (1985) - Brains, Punk, and Chaos!

"This movie has everything, thrills, chills, and chemical spills." - David April Showers bring... zombies? We're diving headfirst into a rain-soaked night of punk, terror, and outrageous undead mayhem with one of the most iconic zombie films of all...

"This movie has everything, thrills, chills, and chemical spills." - David

April Showers bring... zombies? We're diving headfirst into a rain-soaked night of punk, terror, and outrageous undead mayhem with one of the most iconic zombie films of all time—The Return of the Living Dead (1985)! This cult classic is celebrating its 40th anniversary, and we're joining Henrique and David in Louisville, Kentucky, where gas leaks, graveyards, and brain-hungry corpses collide.Directed by Dan O’Bannon and starring Clu Gulager, James Karen, and Thom Matthews, this film redefined zombie cinema with a blend of slapstick comedy, punk rock energy, and gooey practical effects. This episode, we unpack:

  • How this movie changed zombie horror forever
  • Its complicated relationship to Romero’s Dead saga
  • The electric chemistry between its cast
  • Where it stands in the Return series legacy
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  • Is there a sinister secret behind fast food?
  • What elements define a great zombie movie?
  • Did Roger Ebert give it a thumbs up or down?
  • Dr. Couto makes a house call—David opens up with raw, unexpected honesty
Whether you’re a diehard horror fan or discovering this midnight movie gem for the first time, join us for a wild, brain-munching ride through horror history.

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They were resting in peace until they were rudely interrupted.

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Do you want to put on a grave?

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Though? It is on a party? And this place is

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on me now, Lakhu's awake, they're on the way.

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Way.

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They're back from the grave and ready to party.

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I think things are cannot do without the return of

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the living Dead. Great at Art now playing at a

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theater near you.

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In a world where podcasts reign supreme. Two friends dare

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to ask.

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Do you even?

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Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie officionado David

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de Noyer.

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Spoiler alert, What are you laughing about?

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The lavic is like it reminds me of you. Have

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you seen Drive Through with Horny the Clown the horror movie? Yeah,

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of course it starts with them lighting U. I don't

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know if it's I can't know if it's a joint

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or if it's a cigaretllo, but like that's that's the

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first thing you see, is that? And that's what just

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made me think of it, just kicking off the show

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like that.

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It wasn't because you have a similar appearance to Morgan's Purlock.

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No, No, it was not. Why was that those comments?

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Rest in peace to a great man.

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He was a fine man. I wouldn't call him great.

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Yeah, it wasn't great. His his documentaries went a little

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downhill towards the end, I would.

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Say, as opposed to when they were just out and

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out lies.

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Yeah, in the beginning, I mean, you know, supersized Me

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had its day in the sun. And you know, he

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really did blow the lid off fast Food, Like Henry

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Rollins said that one time.

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It's the dumbest interview I've ever heard. All respect to

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Henry Rollins, but like, wow, you.

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fast food because apparently it's bad for you, says the

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guy with an eighty seven inch neck. You know what's

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funny is I've watched that episode The pent Teller's Bullshit

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on Fast Food like numerous times, and uh, it's it's

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funny because like there's people out there that will demonize anything. Obviously, sure,

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but then you like they went and the like had

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the CEO. I think was was it heart Ease or

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whatever that's in that episode Carl Carls Junior. Yeah, and

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then he comes on and basically just is the nicest

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guy possible and like explains everything.

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Well the problem because fast food is not healthy. It

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definitely should be a moderation, yeah, kind of you know, consumption.

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describe it as hilarious. Yeah, they will say things like

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what they're doing is they're abusing your brain by giving

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you fat and salt and sugar, the most addictive things

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that your brain can take. How can you resist it?

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It's like, okay, But the way humans would describe that

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is you're giving people things that taste good. Yeah, so

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they'll eat those more them. Yes, fat salt sugar taste good.

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It's salt sugar sounds like a wrapper. Yo, man, fat

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salt sugar.

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It sounds like a group of rappers. But no, that's

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because I do I mean, I obviously I should watch

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what I eat better. Fact, I think most people should,

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but I especially should. I will never be one of

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those those people.

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I have a problem with. Currently in the cafeteria at work,

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like they have like you know, cheeseburgers, chicken sandwiches, fries,

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salads and stuff like every day, And I'm addicted to

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the chicken sandwiches right now because I get a side

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of pickles and a little thing of mayo, and then

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I just like, you know, doctor the sandwich up that way.

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Oh I'm quite white. I am quite white.

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My mother was in charge of the cafeteria at her company.

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amount of employees I think it was every two thousand

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employees that worked there or something like that, the cafeteria

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six stations, not including the salad bar. And you know,

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one was like kind of a general home cooking thing.

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all have like different types of food you could get,

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and my mother was in charge of getting it to

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be more efficient because it was losing money and they

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want the cafeteria to lose money because the whole point

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of that company, especially at that time, was to get

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the health of everybody up. And one thing that my

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mother struggled with was they had tons of healthy options,

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and generally speaking, they would they were always paying for

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the uneaten healthy food makes So what they discovered actually

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We lost ours.

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Wow, yeah, help you find it.

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I wish they had really lobster bisk like that was

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like even before everything got inflated like crazy over the

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and I was being vegan for a good while, I

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would go there to make a salad and then when

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I went to check out, I'd be like, this is

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twelve dollars. Why, I mean, I'm not. I mean I

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get that, like it's it's you know, the ingredients, wait

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or whatever, but it's like, but it's like twelve dollars,

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be a little cheaper because the convenience is what's getting

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me to do it. Well, so at Mom's work, they

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had this salad bar that was obscenely cheap, and especially

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when I was vegan, I'd go there two or three

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times a week and have lunch with my mom because

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I could just make this gargantuan salad and then I

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just eat them down, you know. But my mom, you know,

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she's retired now, but she always managed to care about

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whatever she was doing. So I used to go to

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lunch with her multiple times a week because they would

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be trying a new food station recipe and she would

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sit me down and literally like I would have to

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have I would have like a chicken sandwich and a

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hamburger and a taco, and my mom would be like,

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take a bite, and I'd take a bite, so what

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is it? What do you think? And it was funny

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because you know, a lot of times there would be

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things like I'd be like like I'd be like, oh,

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the burger is surprisingly good, not hot, Like I haven't

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been sitting here this long and it's not hot. So

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my mom would like write it down and and she'd

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go to the food prep people and be like, is

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there any way to keep them hot till they're on

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the plate because the flavor's good. But you know, same

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thing like I get a chicken sand like this sandwich

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is so dry, And she'd go to them and be like,

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it's pretty dry, and they be like, well, it's hard

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not to be that way. She'd like, well, then let's

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just not do that chicken sandwmuch anymore. And she got

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the place to break even.

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Oh yeah, man.

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But I think my favorite part of the struggle she

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had was they wanted they were. The big challenge wasn't

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getting people to eat healthy food. There was getting them

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to eat there and not go out.

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Go eat order in. Yeah.

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And part of the reason they were like, you should

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stay in and eat was it was cheaper. You know,

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it's a lot cheaper than going out to eat, and

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and the like. Home cooking line was always insanely long

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because the food was very, very good there. But the

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thing that caused everybody a bunch of trouble was one

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of the elements of getting the efficacy and the and

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everything to work really well was they got rid of

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money entirely. So there was no debit cards, no cash,

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no nothing. You would scan your employee ID and it

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would be deducted from your next paychecks. But people hated that,

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which was hilarious because my mother when people had brought

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it up, they were like, I just don't like it

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being to take on my paycheck. She was like, do

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you understand when you spend money? Like, do you understand that?

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Like that that's how your money.

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Yeah, works, yea.

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And the funny thing is she was like, in fact,

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by buying your meal from a future paycheck, you aren't

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paying as much tax. No either, Like you're getting tax

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free food with your money.

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I love that we have that option.

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But it was funny how long it took because for

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the longest time people be like, oh, they deducted it

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from your paycheck, and it's like, homie, everything you buy

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is deducted from your paycheck. So that was her big struggle.

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didn't even last four months of breaking even. They put

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it in the hands of the private contractors entirely, and

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they just, frankly, they didn't care. I mean, why should they,

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because they're just going to be paid no matter what.

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of the pictures of my choice meals at my place

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of work that I don't understand how they came up

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with the idea for it, because like a freaking mac

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and cheese and ham. You remember that one m if

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you can call it that.

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Well, how many people? Estimation how many people?

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I would have to say at least I mean, it's

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got to be at least three to five I would

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think thousand thousand.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean you'd think that they'd I mean,

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they'd have i mean more options, but they're.

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Doing a twenty nine dollars expansion right now too.

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Well and at the same time though, it's just a cafeteria. Yeah,

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and that was the big struggle at Mom's company was

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that they wanted the cafeteria to perform like really well, yeah,

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they didn't want it to just be there as like

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a as like a you know, a little favor for people

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who are lazy.

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Well, and we still and we still have a bunch

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of people that are still working remotely too, so I

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mean that's even cut down on it too obviously. Plus

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we are right by a bunch of places to go,

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like there's a Wendy's, there's a waffle house, like there's

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so like hot.

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Head, there's an immense amount of places by where my

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homework because she worked dead set in the middle of Kettering, Ohio.

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There's everything. Yeah, so but yeah, it was just funny

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watching my mom her wheels turn because she was she

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was in charge of a bunch of stuff. She was

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in charge of the mailroom, which was like her ala

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a job. But then her b job was the cafeteria

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and the the what they called the body shop, which

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was there on site exercise gym, which not only had

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all of the equipment, locker rooms, but it also had

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pilates classes, yoga classes, spin classes, and you were allowed

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to exercise. I believe it was an hour a day

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on the clock.

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That's awesome.

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So, but that was a whole other ordeal because my

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mother hired this woman to run it, but my mother

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was their boss, and that poor woman, she would get

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bossed around, pushed around by these like remember watch, yeah,

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and my mom stood up to this one like forty

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year old ex marine And my Mom's standing there sixty

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one years old, like one hundred and forty pound lady,

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and she's just like, I'm sorry, do you need me

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to take away your gym privileges?

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Yeah?

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Well, the big problem initially was he wouldn't wear shoes

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in the gym.

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He wouldn't wear shoes, and he was also dropping them, right,

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he was dropping weights, yeah, and screaming grunting largely, I.

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Was making a lot of the women, who were the

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majority of the people using it were women, making them

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a little uncomfortable. And at one point he just said, like,

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they don't wear shoes in the yoga class, and she

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was like, you would you would it make you feel

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better if I made them wear shoes. Yeah, Well, I'll

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tell you something. Now that she's retired, although I haven't

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named the company, and now that she's retiring, there was

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another thing. I don't believe it was related to that guy,

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but somebody was defecating in the showers.

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Yeah.

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What What was funny about that wasn't why would someone

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do that? And it was why did they think they

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could get it away with it? The second time they did,

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They're like there he is, Yeah because the camera they

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have cameras. Yeah. So, and he was so shocked when

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they caught him. They was just like, well, oh, it

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was like you know, only between the time that we

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found the pew and how many men left the gym,

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there were six of you.

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When you shit in the shower, you have to waffle

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stomp it down the drain. That's the that's the way

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to do it. I thought everybody knew that by now.

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I guess he'd missed that day at community college.

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You know, waffle stump is just always my favorite phrasing

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that it means so many things.

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It really could. It makes its own gravy if you will,

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it is disgusting. So but all of that to say, David, Yes,

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one thing I've I've learned a lot in our friendship.

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Oh yes.

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And one of those things is I feel like I've

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learned what it is to be married, because aside from

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the the lack of sex and the disappointments, I was

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trying so hard to not.

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Yeah break yeah, yeah, good job.

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Doesn't even notice my new haircut. It looks great as

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if it's a new haircut. I I just got to

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trim a year and a half late.

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I was gonna say, yeah.

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Yeah, you're supposed to get your hair trimmed like every

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three months. I was a year and four months out.

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I'm deciding if it's gonna go post wasteland or if

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I'm gonna keep it going for a little bit. I

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have my hat on right now so nobody can see it,

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but it's it's still growing. Well.

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I would hope like no, I willed the hair just stop.

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I just stop, willed it to stop, willed myself to

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mail pattern baldness. I can't remember. There's a family guy

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joke where he like he grows his beer back but

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like his strength. I can't remember who it is though

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the character watch sheer.

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Will she will, but no, that's uh yeah, yeah, it's okay.

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Rachel didn't notice either. She was like, well you were backlit.

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I was like, I took nine inches off my hair.

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I just remember finishing up before I before I came here,

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and like just getting it all trimmed up for my

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for my mustache and whatnot. And I remember being like, wow,

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it looks so much better. Why didn't I do this

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before work?

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I don't know. Why didn't you?

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I don't know.

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You don't you don't seem like you're big on morning grooming.

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Nope, I am. It's it's not so much that I'm

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that I'm against or anything like that.

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I didn't think you were likely mch No.

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No, it's it's more so it's just like I I

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live five minutes away from my workplace, so I get

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the max amount of sleep or like you know, snooze

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I can and then get up and start my day.

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You're talking to a guy whose first job was across

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the street from his apartment.

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Yeah, I mean I literally have like a fifteen minute

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get out of bed, get everything ready, and get out

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the door. Like as long as I'm out the door

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between like seven forty seven forty five, I'm gonna be fine.

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You start work at eight, Yeah, start work at eight.

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Typically we were allowed to clock in as early as

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seven to fifty.

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Be weird. If they were like hard limited hard it

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cannot work earlier than that, we won't allow it, sir.

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But yeah, no, I it's not that I'm against morning grooming.

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It's just I showering before work is something I used

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to do at my last job, and it is just

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so much easier for me to take a shower before

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bed for the most part, because especially like tonight, I'm

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gonna get home late and do tonight and then go

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to bed.

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See, when I think of showering before bed, it makes

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me think of high school because I stopped. I stopped

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doing that once once I became an adult. I'm not

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trying to pick on you, kid, but like fine, but uh,

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then I realized the benefit of showering in the morning,

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which is just all of it. I mean just the

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experience is nice to start your day with.

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Keep in mind too, I have a third shift roommate,

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so I have to fight the bathroom sometimes in the

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morning because he's just coming home from work.

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What sounds like you probb.

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I mean that is a meat problem. That's why again,

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I choose to shower at night and not and have

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minimal time in the bathroom in the morning.

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Well, what time do you get off for it?

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Uh, six thirty six.

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I mean you could get you'd get a shower. I

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mean you're a dude. What's gonna take you ten minutes?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, if that eight to ten yearsually.

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Yeah, yeah, twelve minutes. If you remember a funny story,

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What the hell?

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I was watching a movie recently and she was like, oh,

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last Action Hero, I'm gonna go take I'll be out

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in an hour. I'm gonna go take a shower. I'll

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be done an hour.

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Yeah, I'll be done in an hour. Hey, at least

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she's honest. I mean, there's that so I yeah, I

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never noticed how short my showers are until I started

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living with with Rachel.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, she showers until the hot water's gone.

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I usually will you know, put on music, and that's

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how I usually tie my showers by, like when I

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get to it, like if I know an album by heart,

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Like when I get to a certain so I'm like,

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oh my, I've been here in like sixteen minutes, so

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I need to get out.

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See I time my showers by when I'm done washing

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my get that.

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Yes, But I enjoy a shower too.

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I mean I I do too, but I mean once

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the hair's done and I know, I wash my face

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and maybe shave time back.

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Sometimes I get the really good hot water and sometimes

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I get the mild, tepid water. So it just depends on.

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Do you share a water heater with your neighbors? Oh,

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that sucks.

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I have in my last two apartments.

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That sucks. Most most apartments, I'm pretty sure you have

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your own, yeah, most so I have never I've never

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had to share a water heater outside of mind.

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I mean actually, now that's actually I'm full of shit.

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All three apartments have had a sheared water heater because

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I know for a fact that there was one time

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that like the uh that they had their kids and

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everything had gone, and then I got in and I

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got like two minutes of hot water before it was lukewarm,

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she'd cold.

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They should switch to a tankless then they wouldn't. I

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mean that's what hotels. I'm pretty sure most hotels do.

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Now.

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Yeah, so that is one nice thing about hotels. It's

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basically limitless hot water can't wait. Oh yeah, well I

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still think you would. You would probably find yourself more

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bright eyed and excitable if you showered in the morning. Mmmm. So,

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I mean that's just I'm not a doctor.

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It's mainly because like, my alarm goes off anywhere between

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seven twenty seven and thirty. So that gives me like,

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like I said, like ten minutes.

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Well you have some kind of variable alarm. You don't

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know when it's gonna go.

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Well, I have three. I have three.

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Yes, my alarm goes off some time between.

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It's like, well, huh, I've got three alarms for the

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morning because I've got one that goes off at seven,

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and seldom do I actually get up at seven. Although

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I do get up at seven sometimes an shower. It is,

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It is not often, but it does happen.

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What I mean, I can't I can't pretend and I

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have the best morning routine. Yeah, but I wake up

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and then I go into the other room and start working. Yeah,

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oftentimes I have no morning ritual.

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It is literally, oh shit. When I was working at home,

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my lunch break would include the shower like I would

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shower at noon.

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And then with a bottle of wine.

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No, not on the.

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Clock now No, Well, now it's gotten even worse because

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now I wear the Apple Watch, so I will sometimes

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accidentally start checking my messages before I've even stepped out

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of bed. And yeah, that can definitely affect the way

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the day starts if there's some kind of urgent.

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I can't remember. There was an article I read a

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while back that was basically saying that you can cut

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down your morning distractions by having your phone charging in

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like an entirely different room for your most of your

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morning routine.

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I mean, I have my phone charging two feet outside

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of reach. Yeah, and that's more than enough to not

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pick it up once while you're in bed.

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No, I get it.

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And that's just because that's where the table is.

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Yeah.

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So I mean, I know I have an enviable situation

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in that I would say over eighty five percent of

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the year I don't have an alarm set at all. Yeah,

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I go to sleep and I usually wake up. You

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could almost bet on it being about six and a

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half hours. Well, now that I wear the watch, I know,

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h it's creepy. I'll look at it be like six

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forty see hours and forty minutes. Again.

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I just recently like started like kind of trying to

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regulate my bedtime because I had it on my phone

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at two thirty, because two thirty was like the latest

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I could stay up, like if I was still up,

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and like my phone was like, hey, you have work

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in like five hours, maybe we should go to bed.

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Yeah, it's a little late.

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So I've started basically making sure my ass is in

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bed between like ten and eleven that way, like if

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I'm laying down and whatnot. It's gotten a lot easier.

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And I kind of forgot how wonderful it is to

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sleep through the night because I hadn't had that happen

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for a while.

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Oh ever since you ran over those kids, ever since

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I ran over those kids. Yeah, I mean I'm impressed

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you have. You have a sense of right and wrong apparently.

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So No, that's that's the funny thing. So I have

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since I was a child, I had what I would

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call sleep frustration. Yeah, I do not get into a

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bed until I am barely able to stay awake, because

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otherwise I will lay in bed very annoyed. I don't

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like being in bed. It's fifty to fifty for me.

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Like if I actually like lay down, put my head

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on the pillow and like am looking at my TV,

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like laying down and whatnot. Like I can find myself

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falling asleep during stuff, and then I know, okay, turn

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off the TV, put on a podcast, and then just

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like fall asleep. That's usually how I go with it.

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Yeah, I when I lay down in bed, it's it's

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it's glasses off, it's time to sleep. Yeah, I mean

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I also can't see it all without my glasses.

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Fall asleep with my glasses on a lot.

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You shouldn't do that.

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I know it's bad for the glass. I used to

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sleep my contacts not all the time. I know because

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I used to tell you about like how amiba's Yeah,

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you can.

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Get a goddamn amiba in your eye or somebody.

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You also can get amba swimming in a lake, which

473
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you won't do either. I am very amoeba aware in

474
00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:57.440
my day to day choices as somebody who grew up

475
00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:00.279
swimming in lakes. I just I just do.

476
00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:02.599
And as somebody who grew up with a severe nearly

477
00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:04.440
blinding eye infection.

478
00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:06.720
There is that. I mean I did too almost. I

479
00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:08.559
told you about that, how I almost lost my eye

480
00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:11.079
because I scratched my eyes so bad that like if

481
00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:12.680
I hadn't gone to the eye doctor when I went,

482
00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:13.960
like they were like, if you would have waited like

483
00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:15.799
another twenty four hours, you could have lost your eye.

484
00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:17.480
How old were you.

485
00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:24.039
It was when Texas Chainsaw the beginning was still on

486
00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:25.519
like premium channels.

487
00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:28.079
They may have they may have also said that just

488
00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:30.119
to scare you because you were like messing with your eye.

489
00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:30.839
How did you scratch it?

490
00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:32.519
Uh, trying to get a contact out?

491
00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:35.200
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They were probably also trying to

492
00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:39.119
make sure you understand that you shouldn't mess with your eyes.

493
00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:40.799
I mean I had my eye covered for twenty four

494
00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:43.039
hours with a bandage and like had like the ceiling

495
00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:45.039
drops and everything. Door. Yeah, I know, shut up.

496
00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:49.400
Well, my eye had to be amputated, oh damn. Near

497
00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:51.799
my eyelid had to be taped down, and I had

498
00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:55.000
to be bandaged for five days. Yeah, and that was

499
00:21:55.039 --> 00:22:01.519
at the end of a rigorous treatment process. So I'm

500
00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:03.640
not saying it, I mean, like yours sounds awful. That's

501
00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:06.599
kind of my point is, I would not mess with

502
00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:07.119
your eyes.

503
00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:13.400
There is a distinct pattern of me sleeping my contacts

504
00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:16.160
in and then wondering why my eyes would be like itchy,

505
00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:19.119
and like then like hurt. You know, the next several days.

506
00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.359
I could see you just be like allergies, Like, well,

507
00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:24.960
you're just like pulling from out of your eyes.

508
00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.960
I never ripped like an entire contact like in my eye,

509
00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:29.799
like I put a I put a torn contact in,

510
00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:33.880
which fucking sucks. Sure, but yeah, I've never actually like

511
00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:36.640
taken a contact out in pieces. Luckily, I've been able

512
00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:37.519
to get it out in one go.

513
00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:41.920
I only once had a contact lens almost get into

514
00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:44.839
the back of my eye. But after my eye infection,

515
00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.759
wearing contacts was so incredibly uncomfortable for years I didn't

516
00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:51.400
even try. And now they're not so bad. There's some

517
00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:53.119
really comfortable contact lenses now.

518
00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:55.200
Well, my biggest issue is I was sleeping with literally

519
00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:57.599
fucking dailies in my eye, and those are the contacts

520
00:22:57.599 --> 00:22:59.000
that you're supposed to like, you know, take out the

521
00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:00.079
end of the day.

522
00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:02.480
I know, we see when I grew up dailies were

523
00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:06.039
so expensive that I wore monthlies.

524
00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:08.599
I didn't get dailies until my last two years of

525
00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:10.559
high school because I had the I had the case,

526
00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:13.160
and I had the liquid and everything for for years.

527
00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:14.400
When I got my contacts.

528
00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:16.359
When when I went to the eye doctor, I need

529
00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:18.440
to go again. Last time I went to the eye doctor.

530
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:21.640
Every time I go, I get a contact lens prescription,

531
00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:24.920
and if they'll give me samples, I'll get some. Yeah,

532
00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:27.119
because every now and then I need to go glasses free,

533
00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:29.839
like for a Halloween costume or for a movie or whatever.

534
00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:32.000
It's nice to have the option. But I remember the

535
00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:34.000
last time I went. I told her I like flat out.

536
00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:35.799
I was like, I'm gonna be honest with you. I

537
00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:38.920
probably wear contacts five days a year.

538
00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:39.480
Yeah.

539
00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:42.480
And she was like, oh, you should wear daily disposables.

540
00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:42.759
Yeah.

541
00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:46.720
And I was like duh because then they because before

542
00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:48.440
I would like find my contact lens case and be like,

543
00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:49.920
well those have been in there for five months and

544
00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:51.559
pour them out, you know, And now I'm just like,

545
00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:53.680
oh no, I just have an ideaies and they're good

546
00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:54.160
for years.

547
00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:56.119
I had to have it explained to me because originally,

548
00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:58.160
like because the dailies were expensive. So when I was

549
00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:00.039
when I was paying form in college and everything, I

550
00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:01.799
into my eye doctor and I was like, listen, like,

551
00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:03.720
I'm not wearing them as often, Like should I just

552
00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:05.039
go back to regular pre And she's like, no, that's

553
00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:06.319
the worst thing you could do, because if you're not

554
00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:07.920
wearing them every day, why would you get a two

555
00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:09.759
weak pair if you're only gonna wear them like twice.

556
00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:12.759
Well, there's also the consideration that the dailies aren't more

557
00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:15.400
expensive now if you burn through thirty in a year

558
00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:17.839
or sixty in a year. Yeah, they're expensive if you

559
00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:20.000
wear them every day, because then you have to buy Mean,

560
00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:21.759
I'm not a math surgeon, but three hundred and sixty

561
00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:22.519
five pairs.

562
00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.839
I can usually make one hundred and eighty of them

563
00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:27.559
last for about a year, like cause I because I

564
00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:30.279
like them more of my glasses right now obviously them

565
00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:34.119
shut up, but uh like I I like my contacts,

566
00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:36.359
but there's specific times that I want to wear them,

567
00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:38.839
and there's times where my glasses will do perfectly fine.

568
00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:42.000
Yeah, I just I don't like the experience.

569
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.640
I like sunglasses. That's my only issue sometimes is that

570
00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:46.400
I will literally put my you see me do it

571
00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:48.880
where I put my sunglasses over my glass. I mean

572
00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:51.440
you can get prescription sunglasses. Nop, it's not gonna look

573
00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:53.119
like a dirt very cheaply.

574
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:55.000
No, how would that make you look like at jerk?

575
00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:57.640
I'm not confused. I like having two glasses stacked on

576
00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:00.920
top of each other versus just one. I'm original, thank.

577
00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:04.839
You to help you blended when you're at the old

578
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:07.880
folks home trying to scam people out of their money.

579
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:10.599
No, I like, it's I'm not against prescription sunglasses. It's

580
00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:13.440
just I've always just either decided to wear my contacts

581
00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:15.680
that day, or I literally will just put my sunglasses

582
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:17.240
over my glasses for the laziness.

583
00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:19.279
I mean, I just keep my prescription sunglasses in my

584
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:21.880
car because that's generally always i'll need them. But I

585
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:24.920
mean the big thing is, I mean, you don't buy

586
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:26.920
glasses online or anything. Do you buy them the old

587
00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:30.920
school we zenny? You buy any zenny? Oh well good, yeah,

588
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:34.559
then you should just yeah, just get some. I mean, like,

589
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:36.599
if you like those, just get a pair of sunglasses,

590
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.519
or you could drop the coin and get transitions.

591
00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:43.519
I've not dropped the coin. It's why you don't like transitions.

592
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:45.160
I do not like transitions.

593
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:46.119
You've had them.

594
00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:47.759
No, I just don't like them on people, and I

595
00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:49.640
don't want them. What do you mean you don't like

596
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:51.359
them on people? The fact, Like I just don't like

597
00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:53.640
the way, like I don't like when you walk outside

598
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:55.440
in the glasses just turn. I don't know, they just

599
00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:59.079
well they slowly. Yeah, I'm not a fan of them,

600
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:00.880
that's all I'll say. I'm not a fan of them,

601
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:01.759
that's all same.

602
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:06.440
I'm so confused by your resistance toward prescription sunglasses in general.

603
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:09.240
I have more No, I have more resistance towards the

604
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:14.319
transitions than I do. Actually, just like regular prescription sunglasses. Okay, No,

605
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:16.079
I mean my problem with them is that they're expensive.

606
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:19.839
I just transition. I just don't like the transitions. I

607
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:23.119
would prefer one one pair of them to do what

608
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:27.160
they do. Dude, I can't explain it. That's just that just.

609
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.319
Just makes you uncomfortable, the idea that like if the

610
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:31.079
sun's bright, it would stop blinding you.

611
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:34.799
It just it seems like creeps wear those classes. There,

612
00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:39.039
I said it. What, yes, what does that mean? I

613
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:42.119
have certain that in my life that have had the

614
00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:44.920
transition glasses have been creeps. And that's all I'll say.

615
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:46.680
That's all I've got.

616
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:50.000
That is so weird because because it's not like they

617
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:51.680
all look a certain way.

618
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:54.000
The ones that I'm thinking of do, which are like

619
00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:56.119
the they look like regular glasses and then they just

620
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:57.599
turn dark when you go outside.

621
00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:01.279
But any pair of glasses can be transition.

622
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:04.319
Yeah, but it's just it's it's different for me personally

623
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.680
in the view of like if these, if these like

624
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:08.720
turned black and whatnot, Like I just I don't, I

625
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:10.680
don't know what it is about it. It's just I've

626
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.319
never really been into them, and like I said, the

627
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:15.160
people that I've seen get them, I'm not a big

628
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:15.640
fan of.

629
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:18.640
I mean, Rachel wears transition lenses.

630
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:20.400
And Rachel's awesome, so she's an exception.

631
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:23.200
And you wouldn't know that their transition because they don't

632
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:23.880
have a.

633
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:26.240
Dude, we're talking about when I was in elementary school,

634
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.440
kids had them. Okay, oh my god, Yeah that was

635
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.119
like ninety five years ago. David was not ninety five

636
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:33.799
years ago. But thank you for that's a very long

637
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:38.000
not saying it wasn't just wait to get thirty six

638
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:39.759
and then you realize that you've been eighteen years not

639
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:40.119
a kid.

640
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:43.880
Yeah, you're living longer. Yeah, you're living past the time

641
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:46.680
you were a child. So this is all based on

642
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.039
childhood trauma.

643
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.160
In a sense, Like it's hard to pinpoint, Like it's

644
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:54.680
probably me just being stubborn as I normally am. I'm

645
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:57.640
a fucking stubborn person and have been for a long time.

646
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:01.400
A bit, yeah, yeah, a bit. Yeah, I'm so sorry.

647
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:02.519
I'm being nice to you.

648
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:04.160
Yeah, that's I know, it's weird.

649
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:08.759
I was trying to be helpful. I mean, but it's

650
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.759
cool if you want to sound like my racist grandma's

651
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:15.720
are I'm just I just I just know.

652
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:19.160
It's like it's it's something that I haven't ever thought about,

653
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.599
like recently, because like I said, I've just kind of

654
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:24.359
always had that tie into it, like elementary school days,

655
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:27.880
Like there's there's specifically two bullies that had them. So

656
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:31.960
there you go. That's so weird. It is, dude. I

657
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:33.519
there's things I say on this mic that I'm not

658
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.680
comfortable saying, to be honest, because it just kind of

659
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.160
comes out like therapy.

660
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:42.799
Well, I mean, there's nothing wrong with talking about your feelings.

661
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.279
And is when I don't know who's listening to this

662
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.039
show right now, who may or may not know me

663
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:46.839
from those days.

664
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:50.119
Are you are you afraid? Like, are you friends with

665
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:50.799
one of the bullies?

666
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:51.759
No? No?

667
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:53.960
Then what I mean like if you.

668
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:55.599
Didn't, you just don't know who's listening. I'm saying, like

669
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:57.880
the person could be listening, And I mean they may

670
00:28:57.920 --> 00:28:59.880
not know that I'm talking about them for that matter,

671
00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:00.519
but I really.

672
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:02.240
Doubt they, No doubt they do too. But again, this

673
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:03.240
is just me again.

674
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:04.680
It's just like I haven't thought about this in a

675
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.440
long time and it's just kind of coming out now.

676
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.440
But I mean, like, even if let's say you're your

677
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.839
greatest childhood bully, m hmm, is listening to the show

678
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.759
right now? If I mean, if they're aware that they

679
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.759
bullied you, they're probably not proud of that.

680
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.039
I don't know, But I don't know about that. I

681
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.160
know two of my bullies, like not personally, but I

682
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.000
know about two of my bullies, and they have not

683
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:35.079
really changed. In fact, their kids exactly like act exactly

684
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:35.799
like them now too.

685
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:41.039
Oh gosh, Okay, so I apologize. I understand you're a yenta,

686
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:43.640
but it might be yeah, you're a little you're a

687
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:47.440
little knitting circle gossip.

688
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:50.640
There's there's people I kept on social media strictly to

689
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:52.759
follow to see how they went. Yes, but that I

690
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.440
don't do that anymore. Like that was that was like

691
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.519
early days of social media, and it was just like, oh,

692
00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:00.160
like this person sent me a friend request and are

693
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.519
not friends, but morbid curiosity like what's gonna happen to them?

694
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.200
That ship? That ship, Like that ship has sailed at

695
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.519
this point, Like I don't keep anybody on to follow

696
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:13.160
for that reason. But I know for a fact there's

697
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:16.920
two bullies that in my lifetime have kids now and

698
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.559
their kids act exactly like they did when they were kids.

699
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.000
Cause you like, hang out where the kids are.

700
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:24.319
No, because one of my friends babysits for them and

701
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:28.319
the other one, uh, the one is uh goes to

702
00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:30.480
a school that one of my friends kids school go to.

703
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:35.000
I think you you you need to learn to let go.

704
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:38.400
Yeah, I'm not saying I don't all. I'm saying this

705
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.680
is not you know, I don't like this intro, Like

706
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:42.119
this intro went off the radil.

707
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:44.160
This is not me trying. But this is not me

708
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:45.640
trying to make fun of you for.

709
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:49.559
For hard I've said things. I've gone into a deeper

710
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:51.680
hole now on the on this intro to the show

711
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.119
that like I just I'm I'm not comfortable with anymore.

712
00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:59.920
All I'm saying is, as a person who was who

713
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:09.359
is prolifically bullied, most of your bullies had really bad lives. Cool,

714
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:11.519
no empathy at all?

715
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:13.319
No I have. I have empathy, dude. This is this

716
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:14.319
is a really tough subject.

717
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:15.119
I'm not. I understand.

718
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:15.359
I'm not.

719
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:17.799
It's why it's a tough sub That's.

720
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.359
Why it's interesting to me though, because it is important.

721
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:22.400
Yeah, but I don't know if I really just want

722
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.160
to open this up on the movie podcast, but I mean,

723
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:29.880
what are we if? I mean movies inform who we

724
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:34.200
are as people? Yeah, but I do, Yes, I have

725
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:38.039
empathy for it. But this, yeah, this, this completely went

726
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:39.640
off on a tirade. I don't want to be on.

727
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:44.359
Now I understand. All I'm saying is could you forgive

728
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:45.000
a bully?

729
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:45.079
Yes?

730
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.720
If and I and I have, that's good. That's ye

731
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:50.599
See that's my point. Yes, I'm not saying every single

732
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:53.759
bully ever is going to have some redeeming oh quality.

733
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.559
But I'm sure you would not be surprised to find

734
00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:59.519
out that many of the kids who were who were

735
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:04.160
little either did it out of a lack of understanding,

736
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.440
like like you did the few occasions where you found

737
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:09.359
yourself kind of on the bullying side as a kid,

738
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:11.799
because you weren't a rotten to the core person. You

739
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:14.440
just kind of ended up there for a minute. Yeah,

740
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:20.200
and that's totally normal. So for me being very low

741
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.079
on the totem pole growing up as far as like

742
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.480
being bullied, there were very few options that I could

743
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:29.559
have even hoped to have bullied. But I think that

744
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:32.839
a lot of those kids probably had a way worse

745
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:35.119
home than you did.

746
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:36.599
Yeah, for sure.

747
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.000
And I'm sure that at the end of the day,

748
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:44.839
them not remembering or not owning bullying you would probably

749
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.319
have more to do with their need to not hate themselves.

750
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:48.799
I hate that we've gotten this far.

751
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.279
I think this is this is a value though. This

752
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:57.319
is because because because David, we are of a certain age. Yeah, no,

753
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.079
I know, And this is the kind of stuff I

754
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.119
spent a lot of time hiding from my childhood because

755
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.720
it was very unpleasant. Yeah, I'm one of those people

756
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:11.480
who it took me years to be comfortable with reminiscing

757
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:14.000
about being a kid because I had to get over

758
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:15.799
those memories.

759
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:22.119
It's it's difficult for me in regards to this shit's

760
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:23.799
coming out for the first time out of my head

761
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:25.000
right now, of course, Miss Mike.

762
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:25.400
Yeah.

763
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:28.759
Yeah, And I've been in therapy for I don't like

764
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.240
I've had, you know, I've had at least six years,

765
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.359
seven years of in and out of counselors and whatnot.

766
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:38.160
So it's just like that that just came out, and

767
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.960
I'm just like, I hear myself saying it, and I'm

768
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.799
just like not loving it. But at the same time, yeah,

769
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:47.279
I get it. It is therapeutic to share. Yeah, But yeah,

770
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.359
I just I didn't expect it to go here. I

771
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.200
understand that, I understand that I'm not.

772
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.640
The reason I'm pushing you a little bit is because

773
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:56.880
I think that that's what you need sometimes. Yeah, and

774
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.119
I mean specifically you because we've been friends for over

775
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.920
a decade. Yeah, And it's these are the kinds of

776
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.400
things that are hard to deal with. One thing I do,

777
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.319
I don't know if other people do, but that I

778
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:10.440
do is I'm really bad, although it ends up being

779
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:13.239
helpful in some ways. I'll often when I'm alone for

780
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:17.360
a really long period of time, I'll prod at those

781
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:20.440
things and I don't think a lot of people do

782
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:23.599
that to the level I do, and I end up

783
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:26.400
upsetting myself, but not like in a like I'm gonna

784
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:28.679
cry on. I mean upsetting myself because I'll be like, shit,

785
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:32.800
I need to sit down and reassess myself because why

786
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.480
am I so mad? And there were a bunch I mean,

787
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:39.480
coming to terms with being bullied, coming to terms with

788
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:44.800
my abandonment issues have been things that I that I

789
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.920
had to kind of find on my own, which I'm

790
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:51.000
glad I did, but holy crap, Like to.

791
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.360
Me, I made a couple of friends like super sad

792
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:57.639
over the weekend because we were just driving out a

793
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:01.079
couple of places and it came out of my mouth

794
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:02.559
and it like it was just that thought that kind

795
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:04.599
of left before I even thought about it. It was like, man,

796
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.320
you know, for a social butterfly, I'm really good at

797
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.519
being a loner sometimes, And that like kind of hurt

798
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:12.679
hearing myself say that. So No, I mean like there's

799
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.400
there's little things that will that will just kind of

800
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.000
cook in my head and then come out eventually.

801
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:21.880
Well, you're a good friend.

802
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:22.800
I appreciate that.

803
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:23.519
No, you really are.

804
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:24.039
You are too.

805
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:29.400
You have your flaws everybody does. Yeah, and you're you

806
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:34.000
like to to head away from things, and I think

807
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.400
that's probably your your greatest flaw, only because it can

808
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.760
make it hard to connect. It's like we're doing right

809
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:40.079
now too.

810
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.679
Yeah, it's it's because the dear listener, you're gonna get really,

811
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:46.800
you're gonna really intimate me here for a second. It

812
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:53.119
is because it's because, in the simplest terms, when you

813
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:57.480
are a kid, and any time that you are dealing

814
00:35:57.480 --> 00:35:59.519
with something and you kind of just push it down

815
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:01.360
and then it keeps building to the point where you

816
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.440
eventually have it not necessarily lash out. That's not the

817
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:05.679
word I want to use, but that's the best thing

818
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:08.400
I can come to terms with. Sure, and you're labeled

819
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:10.719
as a drama queen or being dramatic by your family.

820
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:16.159
You don't express much frustration after that point.

821
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.039
Well, and the and the tricky thing there is when

822
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:23.599
you hold back until you boil, it actually makes you

823
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:24.239
more dramatic.

824
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:25.400
Oh, it makes you way more dramatical.

825
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:28.039
Yeah, yeah, it's And that was Michael.

826
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:29.280
And that was the hardest thing was it was just

827
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:33.039
like anytime I expressed myself to a certain point, it

828
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:34.639
was just David's being dramatic day. He has been a

829
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:36.679
drama queen. Like this is why my sister and I

830
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.599
strictly have a rule now that I am not to

831
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:41.639
be called that because it's it's a triggering experience for me.

832
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.000
I can see that. Yeah, I don't need to dive

833
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:46.920
in deep on that. Yeah, but I can see it

834
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.639
from from being being my friend a little bit.

835
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:51.760
Yeah. And I and I love my sister. My sister

836
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:53.760
is a great mother. I love my niece. I love

837
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:55.880
that my sister is has a happy life and it

838
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:58.199
is doing very well for herself. And I'm and I've

839
00:36:58.199 --> 00:36:59.840
come to term. We We've come to terms of the

840
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:03.400
lot of our shit. Yeah, but that is one that

841
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.880
really has stuck out for the fact of the issues

842
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.679
that I hold internally inside me. But on top of

843
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:16.159
like the mental gymnastics I do sometimes with my own self. Sure, well,

844
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:19.360
that's anxiety and anxiety that's anxiety to a tea.

845
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:20.800
I think I think a lot of it comes from

846
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:23.039
anxiety a place of anxiety, and as a person who's

847
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:26.159
very anxious. Yeah, that's why I see it. Yeah, you

848
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:28.079
know it's not because I then go like, wow, I

849
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:30.800
would never fuck up like this. Yeah, so you need

850
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:33.480
da da da. No, it's hard. It's hard out there,

851
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:38.000
and it's hard, especially when these kinds of conversations can

852
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:41.599
feel scary, and they can feel not only scary, but

853
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:46.840
it's easy to resist them. Yeah, and that usually lets

854
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:47.639
it become worse.

855
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.079
Well, it's because literally, I mean, as we're recording this

856
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:53.039
right now, no one's hearing this as we are recording

857
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:54.599
this right now, but I know that we are recording

858
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:56.360
this for an episode. I mean just the CIA, Yeah,

859
00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:01.440
the CIA and you know NSA. Yeah. It's it's weird

860
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.639
for me to have a mic and feel more comfortable

861
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.719
opening up on these things, even when the initial drop

862
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:11.519
of it is scary. Sure, but the fact that you

863
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:12.920
and I have been friends for so long, and the

864
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.039
fact that, like I know that I can share these things.

865
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:18.800
This microphone here collecting all this is what is is

866
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:20.639
what was making me nervous. But at the same time,

867
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:22.280
now it's just like, at this point, it's out there

868
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:23.559
as far as far as it.

869
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.400
Goes, and I totally understand that. I think that you

870
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.559
would be and you probably already know this deep down,

871
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:32.320
but like I think you'd be surprised how many people relate,

872
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:35.119
they relate and they don't see you as some.

873
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:39.159
Vulnerability is saying vulnerability is something that I've never really

874
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:43.320
been afraid of in the sense of letting it out.

875
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.400
And it's more so the after effects of letting it

876
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:49.519
out to certain people, like being the being vulnerable to somebody.

877
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:51.920
I mean, you know, anybody who's clicked on this episode

878
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.159
wants to hear about the movie obviously too, but like, yeah, well.

879
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:55.639
There are a million other movie podcasts, then go to it.

880
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:58.079
I don't like, no, no, you know what. What I'm

881
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.719
more so saying is it's just like I appreciate that

882
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:02.719
if anybody is hearing this right now and relates to this,

883
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.440
you know, obviously, please send us an email for one,

884
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.800
but just at the same time, like understand that, like

885
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:12.199
this is not something I do on a regular basis

886
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:12.760
on the show.

887
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.639
No No, No, but I I've learned in being your

888
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:20.960
friend that needling the stubbornness often is really good. Yeah,

889
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:22.159
not always, but often.

890
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:24.400
Well it's like I I literally had to do mental

891
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.119
gymnastics on who was it that had shades like that?

892
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:29.480
And and that's where it's just like, oh no, no,

893
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:32.039
I totally remember because I just remember the faces immediately.

894
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.840
So yeah, no, I it's it's one thing to to

895
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:39.440
be able to face the problems. It's a whole nother

896
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:41.599
thing to be able to face the problems and inspire

897
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:44.760
somebody and if that, if that's that's or relate back

898
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.320
to somebody point of that, and so like that's why.

899
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.639
It's like I get comfortable more as I think about it.

900
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:51.880
But yeah, I mean it's it's not something that I

901
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:52.960
love talking about.

902
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.119
Obviously, but at the end of the day, we are

903
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.639
talking to each other and people are listening, and you're

904
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.639
not talking to anybody but me right now. Really, I mean,

905
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:02.840
people are listening, but they're not converse. They're not in

906
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:04.519
the room with us right now. No, No, I hope not.

907
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.360
There's a curtain right there. But it's it's a tough

908
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:13.559
thing to go through. I appreciate you kind of letting

909
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:15.599
that guard down a little bit because it's needless. Is

910
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:18.239
the big thing is you don't need to protect yourself

911
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:21.039
because nobody's trying to hurt you. Yeah, and that's hard

912
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.519
for a lot of people. I learned relatively young that

913
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:29.840
being vulnerable almost always led to a good situation. When

914
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:30.719
I say young, I mean in my.

915
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.039
Twenties, anxiety led me to believe that it could be

916
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:35.320
weaponized against you, obviously.

917
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:35.440
And it can't.

918
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:35.840
It can't.

919
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:39.079
But that's only you if you hang on to toxic

920
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:44.079
people exactly because toxic people will hear the thing you

921
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:48.360
say that is really really intense and then turn it

922
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:50.679
on you when they need to hurt you. And the

923
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:52.800
thing is, at the end of the day, the people

924
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:56.000
that you love should not ever be like, shoot, I

925
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.079
need to hurt David right now, how do I do it? Yeah?

926
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:01.039
You know, they really shouldn't unless they're a professional in

927
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.199
full LATEX so.

928
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:05.280
Fair.

929
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.519
So that's but that's the truth of it. Yeah, you

930
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:12.639
know there was a line in Making Out where I

931
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.559
basically say that or was it, Yeah, I was making

932
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.880
out or I say, like handing somebody how you really

933
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.000
feel is like handing them a knife. Yeah, and that's

934
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.199
when they can just that was just kind of how

935
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.800
I used to feel, and looking back, it was absurd.

936
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:28.800
When I started making movies that mattered to me a

937
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.599
little bit more intensely, like Depression the movie or nothing

938
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.400
Good Ever Happens or all those. All I noticed was

939
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.599
I was like, if I bared my soul, and especially

940
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.880
the somewhat or at least the parts I found ugly.

941
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:43.840
People were enthralled and more interested. I remember when Depression

942
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.679
the movie showed I sincerely and that's one of my

943
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:50.480
most beloved movies. Now, I sincerely thought people were gonna

944
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:52.880
walk out of the movie theater, never wanting to speak

945
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:53.320
to me again.

946
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:55.280
I remember that theater. Theater lit up.

947
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:57.559
They were laughing the whole time. I thought they were

948
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:02.440
gonna find the observational hue were stupid. Yeah, and I

949
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:04.280
was shocked when everybody left.

950
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.079
I don't think that that theater had very many quiet moments,

951
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:10.920
except for maybe uh uh uh, how Casterira's story had.

952
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:15.119
Yeah, well, yeah, there's a hefty one, so David Neely's

953
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.800
for that matter. Yeah, but that one.

954
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:17.639
Moved really fast. Yeah.

955
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.320
So anyway, this is a massive digression, and.

956
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:20.800
I don't care.

957
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.199
It's fine, No, it's you don't like it, you find

958
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:25.280
some kick.

959
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.039
Like it's it's It's one thing to allow yourself to

960
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.000
go to those places, but it's a whole other thing

961
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:37.000
to realize that you're recording that you're that you're putting

962
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:38.760
it on record. So I mean, like that's again, like

963
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:40.159
that's just a barrier I had to cross with.

964
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:42.400
It was just like we're doing this fuck it, but

965
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:44.679
it gives you the opportunity to as well. Yeah, it

966
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:48.119
gives the opportunity to to let out some demons. Yeah,

967
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.920
and that's important because if we're going to talk about movies,

968
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:56.320
and we're mostly talking about movies that we've already seen

969
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:59.400
that mean a lot to affect us, Yeah, then we're

970
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.719
going to have to be emotionally vulnerable to varying degrees,

971
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:06.280
because if we're not, then what I mean, then you

972
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:07.159
become Chris Farley.

973
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:09.920
That was cool? Well, it's like this, that was cool.

974
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:13.679
The movie in particular tonight. There is an element of

975
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:17.360
it that has always like horrified me to my core,

976
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:21.400
and that is the idea that you are dead but

977
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.559
you can't do anything about it, and you're alive right now,

978
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:26.679
like and you're slowly coming to terms that you are

979
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.199
a corpse and slowly morphing into that.

980
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:32.000
As opposed to what made you always laugh, which was

981
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:33.880
the idea of being dead and loving.

982
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.760
It and loving it. Mister mista.

983
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:42.920
Well, on that note, why not bury the lead a

984
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.039
bit on a highly anticipated episode?

985
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:48.239
I wish I had a shot of whiskey right, Well,

986
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:49.239
you know, that's.

987
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:51.400
A whole other problem we can get into next week.

988
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.480
Our time is up. Yes, I'll send you a bill.

989
00:43:55.920 --> 00:44:01.000
So the Butcher Dinner. God damn it, I count you

990
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:03.679
can write that off your taxes as a medical expense

991
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:09.440
now taxes. So tonight we are talking about as part

992
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:14.039
of our April Showers, our rain theme. We're talking about

993
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:18.119
nineteen eighty four, eighty five, eighty five, eighty five. Yes,

994
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:20.639
Return of the Living Debt.

995
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:21.320
And we want to party.

996
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:22.719
Oh and it's party.

997
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:23.440
It's party time.

998
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:29.039
So it's a film that I feel like everybody's talked

999
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:32.920
about to some extent. It's highly beloved and rightfully so

1000
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.599
I would not call this film overrated in any any way,

1001
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:40.199
and I have minor criticisms of it, and it's not

1002
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:40.719
over real.

1003
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:43.440
Well, and it wasn't one that I necessarily didn't even

1004
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.239
think of, because I'm pretty sure it was on the

1005
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.800
list I sent you originally four April Showers. I think

1006
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:50.719
maybe I can't remember, but it was one that, like

1007
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:52.039
you just said it perfectly. It was just like, do

1008
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.239
we do we have anything to say about it? But

1009
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:55.840
I mean, at the same time, there's a lot to

1010
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:57.159
say about this movie still.

1011
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.519
And at the same time, here's the tricky thing of life.

1012
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:03.679
It's like the trailer dilemma. Yeah, you know what people say, like,

1013
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:05.559
I hate that trailer gave away everything? Why did they

1014
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.039
give away the best of the trailer? They did focus

1015
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:11.039
groups says meccavoy is a bad guy. That was a

1016
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:14.760
really dumb argument. But but they've done studies and when

1017
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:19.480
people see a trailer for a movie, they are excited

1018
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.360
to see the stuff from the trailer in the movie.

1019
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:27.760
They're not mad that they already know what happens. They're

1020
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:32.360
not so and and that's a very important point to

1021
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:37.079
keep in mind, is that people they want something new,

1022
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:41.000
but they also want something that they're familiar with. And

1023
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:43.920
when it comes to talking about a movie everybody else

1024
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:47.000
has talked about, that's where there's kind of this conflict

1025
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:50.480
because inside of you, there's one part saying like, well,

1026
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:51.800
everybody else has done it, so I don't want to

1027
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:53.400
do it. But then there's the other part that's like, yeah,

1028
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:56.800
but somebody still wants to hear it. Yeah, And that's

1029
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:58.719
kind of where I'm at with why I wanted to

1030
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:00.840
do that one is like, there's plenty of people who

1031
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.199
want to hear people talk about returning living dead and

1032
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.000
on top of that, maybe just maybe some of them

1033
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.039
will listen to you grow. Well, it's like watching blossom.

1034
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:11.280
There we go at the end of this month. We

1035
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:13.119
have one of my all time favorite movies, and then

1036
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:14.519
there's the Only Hands I'm going to give you, and

1037
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.320
it's like that movie has been talked about incessantly, but

1038
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:20.480
I'm so happy and ready to dive into it again.

1039
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.320
Oh yeah. Well, And that's the other thing that's important

1040
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:25.880
to keep in mind about movies and why we love them,

1041
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.400
is because we can revisit them, and in a way,

1042
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.800
by revisiting them, you're revisiting that point in time, not

1043
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:33.719
only when the movie was made, but when.

1044
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:38.480
You yourself watched it exactly. And there's nothing, you know, anybody.

1045
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:40.800
Who wants to say, you know, whatever they could possibly

1046
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.960
say about this episode or us talking about personal life stuff.

1047
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:48.599
If you love movies, then you are, without a doubt,

1048
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:54.599
an absolute empathy person. Yeah, because I think it was

1049
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:58.639
actually Ebert who said that film is an empathy machine,

1050
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:01.960
and I connected with when he said that so much,

1051
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:05.320
because all we're doing is watching human beings and pretend,

1052
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:08.559
and we know they're pretending, and then we want to

1053
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:10.440
believe them and empathize with them.

1054
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:12.800
Well, and I will give a movie. It may not

1055
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:14.440
be like a five star film, but I will give

1056
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:16.840
a movie major props if I shed a tear for

1057
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:19.400
it like that is that is You've done something to

1058
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:21.800
me that has made these fictional characters that did not

1059
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.239
exist until I sat down in your theater or sat

1060
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:26.039
down in this seat at home and watched this movie

1061
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.800
and care about these people like that's a big, big

1062
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.519
thing for me. If I cried during a movie, you've

1063
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:33.440
done your job, even if the movie isn't you know,

1064
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:35.079
my favorite, Or.

1065
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.039
You can be reshowing the American movie and me going, actually,

1066
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:38.559
I hate.

1067
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:42.239
This, Yeah, there was that, or us watching Phenomena and

1068
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:44.760
being like man our Genta is just really loud in

1069
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:46.760
this music didn't.

1070
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.000
Age well for me, No, but I appreciate what people appreciate.

1071
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:51.320
So anyway, So we got Return of the Living Dead here,

1072
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:54.679
Yes we do. And I have a lot to say

1073
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:59.639
about the movie. So Dave take it away, start us up.

1074
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.719
Return of Living Dead nineteen eighty five, one hour and

1075
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:05.840
thirty one minutes, RATEDAR for horror, violence and gore, language

1076
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:09.880
and nudity. I'med Tobe. Synopsis says when two bumbling employees

1077
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:12.920
that a medical supply warehouse accidentally release a deadly gas

1078
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.800
into the air. Vapors cause the dead to rise again

1079
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:16.679
as zombies.

1080
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:18.039
Oh but do they get the vapors.

1081
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:20.559
They don't get the vapors. Oh, but they can go

1082
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:21.880
get the papers, Get the papers.

1083
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:22.719
Get the papers, Get the papers.

1084
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:26.039
My synopsis, when a deadly gas is released into the air,

1085
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:28.960
a small Kentucky town becomes overrun by zombies rising from

1086
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.280
the ground. Not the same, Yeah, I mean, I mean,

1087
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:33.519
what can you can you say?

1088
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:33.599
We?

1089
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:38.320
I mean, the plot and the details are totally different.

1090
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:41.960
I mean, it's it's just zombies rising from the dead.

1091
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:44.599
But then the details are what make Return of Living

1092
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:45.519
Dead Return of Living Dead?

1093
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:47.719
Yeah, I mean because in all honesty, as far as

1094
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:49.840
the as far as like the direct action goes of

1095
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.840
this film, not a lot happens.

1096
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:56.000
I would say, some people hang out, they say some

1097
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:56.639
funny stuff.

1098
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:56.920
Yeah.

1099
00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:58.880
Then they're being hunted by brain eating zombies.

1100
00:48:59.000 --> 00:48:59.159
Yeah.

1101
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:02.400
And then they're hunted morel escape and then they're hunted more.

1102
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:06.880
There's That's That's kind of the beauty of this movie, Yeah,

1103
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.400
is that it took a really interesting direction. It did,

1104
00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:16.519
and not just in terms of the characterizations and the dialogue,

1105
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:19.760
but every direction. I mean, the zombies are very different

1106
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.519
from any zombies we had seen up until now. They're

1107
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.440
not George Romero zombies. They're super fast, they're super smart,

1108
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:27.440
they can't die basically ever.

1109
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:29.000
Well, I mean, and we'll get into it as we

1110
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:30.239
get into the trivia a little bit more, but like,

1111
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.119
this is the first like inclination of zombies eating brains

1112
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:35.719
and saying that they want to eat brains.

1113
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:35.840
So.

1114
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.199
I had a girlfriend years ago, and we were hanging

1115
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:41.679
out and I was in a mood, and I was like,

1116
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.960
I just want to watch something stupid and and relax.

1117
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.800
So I put on Return of Living Dead four Cropolis

1118
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:50.239
and she had never seen that.

1119
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:50.639
Yeah.

1120
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:53.519
So and and when the zombie, the first zombie jumps out,

1121
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.800
it goes brains and she starts laughing and she's like,

1122
00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:00.599
oh my god, it literally said brains and then went well, yeah,

1123
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:03.519
because that's how Return to Living Dead started then, and

1124
00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:06.039
she was like, I've never seen Return Living Dead and

1125
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:07.440
I stopped everything. I was like, well, now we have

1126
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:08.480
to watch Return of Living Dead.

1127
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:10.519
Man, I have dejah vood to this story off.

1128
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:12.599
Because you've never seen Return of Living Dead two, which

1129
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:13.519
was bizarre t.

1130
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:17.280
Wed Dear listener. We had just finished our Stepfather Marathon,

1131
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:20.519
Stepfather one, step Father two, Stepfather three, and Stepfather remake.

1132
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.400
See people hear Stepfather Marathon are like porn hub.

1133
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:27.519
Yep, help me Stepfather and we had we had literally

1134
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:29.360
just wrapped the remake, which is not a great movie.

1135
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:31.760
That that one did not age well for me. But

1136
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:35.559
I was getting ready to go, and I can't remember

1137
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:37.679
how we on the subject, but we basically on the

1138
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:39.639
subject of Return of Leaving Dead part two, and I

1139
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:41.000
was like, yeah, I've never seen it, never heard. I

1140
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:44.280
heard it wasn't good, and you dead stopped and you

1141
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:46.039
were just like what And I was like, yeah, I

1142
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:47.519
just I had never seen it and I didn't hear

1143
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:49.039
it was good, Like I've seen one and I've seen three,

1144
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:49.880
So I figured that was it.

1145
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:52.239
I mean, you're a you're a you're a black T

1146
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:53.800
shirt wearing Alice Cooper.

1147
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.639
They just literally watched Stepfather three, which is like you

1148
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.880
the fucking Showtime movie. Yeah, I was.

1149
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:02.280
My mind was blown. I was like, how could you, Yeah,

1150
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:05.079
you have never seen part two?

1151
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:07.199
Well, because i'd heard in which which we you know,

1152
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:08.960
that was one of the reasons you showed me the copy.

1153
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:10.400
You did because I'd heard that the music had been

1154
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:12.519
replaced on the on the Warner Brothers DVD, and it

1155
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.960
was it was bad studio music. And I'd also heard

1156
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:18.159
that like it was it was basically a rehash of

1157
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:20.639
the first movie with the same actors and just a

1158
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:23.079
little cheaper. I mean, you're not, well, except it was

1159
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:25.960
actually more just more expensive. Yeah, but but everybody always

1160
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:28.280
said it look cheaper. So like, I was really blown

1161
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:30.760
away by how good it was and how funny it was.

1162
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:33.760
It's super fun yeah, and funny. I mean, it's a

1163
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:35.519
lot of people like to dig on that movie by

1164
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.719
saying that it's like the Police Academy of Zombie movies.

1165
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:40.280
I think Ken Weeder Horne said he wanted to. He

1166
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.280
probably did the Police Academy of Horror Movies. But it is,

1167
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:47.360
and it clicks really well when you're a little kid

1168
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:49.159
because one of the main characters of the Little Kid. Yeah,

1169
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.920
my cousin Jeff, he loves Return Link Dead too, because

1170
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.119
he was that kid's age. Yeah when he saw it.

1171
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:58.559
So but no, it's just it blows my mind when

1172
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:02.239
people haven't seen that because zombies liking brains yeah, has

1173
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:07.119
become in the like horror Mandela effect. It is the

1174
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.960
Jason using a chainsaw. Yeah, it never happened, but people,

1175
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:11.880
key people believe it.

1176
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:12.159
Yeah.

1177
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:14.199
All through the nineties there was always guy with a

1178
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:16.280
hockey mask of the chichain saw and it was like

1179
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:17.199
you never used them.

1180
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:19.199
I'm ninety percent sure, like one of like the early

1181
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.599
movie Maniac, Jason figures I had a chainsaw with it

1182
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:22.840
and that could be it too.

1183
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:24.639
That wouldn't shock me at all.

1184
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:27.480
Yeah, But but now going back to that, it was.

1185
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.519
It's funny because three was the one I saw even

1186
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:34.440
before return Wow, because because you were a little goth kid, Well,

1187
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:36.280
threes play on sci fi all the damn time.

1188
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:37.519
Yeah, yeah, I did so.

1189
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:41.159
But going back to the movie, tagline only one. This

1190
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:45.239
time they're back from the grave and ready to party.

1191
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:47.519
I mean it's pretty solid, pretty solid.

1192
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:47.880
Yeah.

1193
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:50.320
In the trivia, I do have a couple unused taglines

1194
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:52.639
that we'll get to, but at this recording. It is

1195
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:56.159
currently available to stream on MGM plus, Pluto TV, twov.

1196
00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:58.159
You can also rent it on Prime in van Dango

1197
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.280
and if you are a fan of the film or

1198
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We watched the four K tonight, both of us for

1201
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:09.880
the first time. Yeah, on my four K projection system,

1202
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:13.639
and wow, yeah, no, big time. I mean I had

1203
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.440
noticed a lot of details when it came out on

1204
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:18.280
Blu Ray that I had never noticed before because this

1205
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:19.960
was a movie I'd watched many times.

1206
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:21.559
But that was with my interlacing on that TV.

1207
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:22.639
I don't want to talk to you.

1208
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:27.079
That was the That was it, and then that was

1209
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:30.599
the stopping trust. The trust is cut put Did we

1210
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:32.239
turn it off? Did you make me turn it off?

1211
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:35.400
I can't remember, Okay, I thought you took yeah, yeah,

1212
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:36.840
because you were just kind of like, no, it's it's

1213
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:38.320
fine as five as like, I can shut that off.

1214
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:41.360
Yeah, no, it's fine as fine. Let me fix, let

1215
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:46.079
me fix movie. For those who don't know what television

1216
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:49.559
interlacing is, you're lucky it was on my PS three

1217
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:51.119
like that, because that was one of the reasons on

1218
00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:52.400
the three PS three.

1219
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:53.880
No, it was the PS three because I didn't have

1220
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:56.679
a TV. It was a monitor. Yes, yeah, yep, I

1221
00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:59.039
had a giant computer monitors a TV for the longest time.

1222
00:53:59.119 --> 00:53:59.880
Yeah, I remember.

1223
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:03.280
Yeah, So director and writer on the film is Dan O'Bannon.

1224
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:05.440
He is the director and writer for Return of Living

1225
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:08.440
Dead in nineteen eighty five. He also directs The Resurrected,

1226
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:12.199
which is a nineteen ninety one Chris Sarandon Lovecraft film

1227
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:13.880
that I have not seen, but I've heard is that's

1228
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:15.119
interesting Why I had.

1229
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.639
It confused with The Unameable because that's a Lovecraft movie. Yeah,

1230
00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:19.679
and around from around the exact same time.

1231
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:22.079
But he is also the writer and star of Dark

1232
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.280
Star John Carpenter's first film in nineteen seventy four.

1233
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:25.800
Honestly, that's a fun movie.

1234
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:28.840
Alien in nineteen seventy nine. He's a writer on Phobia,

1235
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:31.719
Dead and Buried in eighty one, which we may have

1236
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:33.960
to talk about that. I really I'm a very big

1237
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:36.760
fan of that movie. That's a good movie.

1238
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:39.559
Maybe if can we Bury You Alive on the show,

1239
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:41.519
If we do Buried.

1240
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:43.960
Alive, we've got to do the good Buried Alive? That

1241
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:45.000
TV movie.

1242
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:47.360
Is good.

1243
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:49.840
Have You Medal in eighty one. He writes on Blue

1244
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:53.119
Thunder in eighty three, Life Force in eighty five, Invaders

1245
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:56.400
from Mars Aliens. He gets character credit on Total Recall

1246
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:59.920
in nineteen ninety Alien three, gets character credit Screamers Bleeder

1247
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.039
in ninety seven, and then from that point he got

1248
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:04.599
credited for characters and like all the alien stuff coming

1249
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:05.079
out since then.

1250
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:09.159
Yeah, because he he started a bunch of really incredible franchises.

1251
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:11.400
He did unfortunately leave us back in two thousand and

1252
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:15.760
nine at December seventeenth at age sixty three from Crone's Disease. Wow,

1253
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:18.519
from crone Crones at sixty three. That's young.

1254
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:19.519
Yeah, that's very young.

1255
00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:22.400
Another writer on the film is Rudy Richie. He gets

1256
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.480
a Ricky He gets his start in nineteen seventy one

1257
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:26.679
writing The Affair, then goes on to do The Devil

1258
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:29.760
and Sam Silverstein in seventy six, Liberation of Cherry Janoski

1259
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:31.920
in seventy six, Returnal Living Dead in eighty five. He

1260
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.280
gets a story credit on He's also the actor in

1261
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:37.320
nineteen sixty eight or The Light of Living Dead sixty

1262
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:40.599
eight he plays a zombie. He unfortunately passed March eighth

1263
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.039
of twenty twelve, seventy two complications from a fall.

1264
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:46.239
Was he like, did you have a story credit? Because

1265
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:48.400
he worked on the novel. I thinks they were originally

1266
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:50.880
supposed to because it was originally a John Russo book

1267
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:51.920
called Return of Living Dead.

1268
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:54.559
He's he's the third to last and then we'll get

1269
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:56.440
to the last one. But yeah, Russo is the next one.

1270
00:55:56.480 --> 00:55:58.559
John Russo is our writer on this. He is the

1271
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.159
writer of Night Living Dead sixty eight, does the screenplay

1272
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:04.239
Liberation Cherry Janoski in seventy six, which he also directs

1273
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:06.760
Midnight and eighty two, which he does the novel screenplay

1274
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:07.960
before and directs the film.

1275
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:08.239
Yes.

1276
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:10.480
Then he also does Return of Living Dead in the

1277
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:12.800
eighty five, the Majorrettes in eighty six, which is the

1278
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.719
novel screenplay, and I think the director of that one,

1279
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:17.920
which was it, Major Ettes.

1280
00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:19.039
I'm not sure if you directed that.

1281
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:21.199
I don't know if you did or not. Heartstopper in

1282
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:23.320
eighty nine, he directs Night a Living Dead ninety. He

1283
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:26.280
gets credit on Voodoo Dawn in nineteen ninety, Midnight two

1284
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:30.679
in ninety three, videotape Santa Claus nineteen ninety six, He

1285
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:36.960
directs screen Queens Scream Queens Naked Christmas in ninety sixty.

1286
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:43.199
Directs Cause You Love Silly Silly Christmas slasher Ridiculousness with

1287
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:49.039
an insane amount of nudity. Yeah, Santa clause like the laws.

1288
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:56.800
There's an incredible Santa fingern finger that Yoda, but uh,

1289
00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:59.079
you gotta check out that blu ray that Terror Vision

1290
00:56:59.119 --> 00:56:59.440
put out.

1291
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.239
But you know what DVDU can avoid is in nineteen

1292
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:05.239
ninety nine, Night of a Living Dead thirtieth anniversary, do.

1293
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:06.639
You remember when we tried to revisit that one?

1294
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:08.599
Yes, I do. We stopped.

1295
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:11.480
So I'm gonna tell you something real fast. When I

1296
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:14.239
was doing my first horror host show, Cult Theater, Yeah,

1297
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:16.719
we did Night a Living Dead because every horror host

1298
00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:19.639
hasts to do Night a Living Dead. Yeah. And one

1299
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:23.239
of the gags that we did on that episode was

1300
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:27.800
we we did this thing where a little Chiron is

1301
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:29.320
what they used to call him, text came up on

1302
00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:31.440
the screen, yeah over black and just said and now

1303
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:34.639
a sneak preview of John Russo's next film. And then

1304
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:36.320
it was just a toilet flushing.

1305
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:39.199
That's mean, but's funny.

1306
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:43.639
I was fourteen, yeah, and I was that mad about

1307
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:46.039
Night a Living Dead ninety yeah, and Children a Living

1308
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:49.760
Dead nine children. Yeah. So see, we could talk about

1309
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:51.599
you want to talk about trauma. I don't want to

1310
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:55.199
hear about your bullies. Let's talk about John fucking Russo.

1311
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:57.519
So Lunatics in Night in two thousand and two, which

1312
00:57:57.559 --> 00:57:59.719
he directs Night a Living Dead three D, and O

1313
00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:02.480
SI Dead good Night in twenty twenty one, and The

1314
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:05.199
Night They Came Home in twenty twenty four. He's still

1315
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:06.760
got some stuff in the cooking right now.

1316
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:07.800
Oh he's around.

1317
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:08.679
Yeah, and he did that.

1318
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:10.840
I mean, I think he produced and he starred in that.

1319
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:12.639
My Uncle John is a zombie movie.

1320
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:13.320
That's also one. Yeah.

1321
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:13.599
Yeah.

1322
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:16.360
Last writer on the film is Russell Striiner. He gets

1323
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:18.519
his start in as a writer in seventy six on

1324
00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:20.559
The Devil in Sam Silverstein, which he does the screenplay

1325
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:22.280
for Return of Living Dead in eighty five. He's a

1326
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:25.000
story credit on and most famously is Johnny and Night

1327
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:26.159
of Living Dead nineteen sixteen.

1328
00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:29.880
I mean to get you, Bob and him. Super nice guy.

1329
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.440
I've met him over the course of twenty five years

1330
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:34.079
on and off. Super nice guy.

1331
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:36.239
I think I met him about probably about fifteen years ago.

1332
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:39.440
He and his brother Gary worked a lot with George

1333
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:42.280
Romero during his commercial days. Yeah, and all of that

1334
00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:45.039
at the Latent Image. Yeah, and Gary was like the

1335
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:47.280
nicest guy in the world. He's passed since past but

1336
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:48.599
he was the nicest guy in the world.

1337
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:51.760
Do we have Is it like there's three people left

1338
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:53.840
in the original cast because Kira is still with us, right.

1339
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:58.840
Yeah, there's a few people still with us. They're always

1340
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.719
finding a few more zombie extras. Yeah, because there were

1341
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:04.480
just so many, so many. Fine is My cousin Jeff

1342
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:06.800
wrote the official home video history of Night of the

1343
00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:09.400
Living Dead fans. So I've gotten to be around some

1344
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:13.199
of the modern Image ten people because they're still kicking.

1345
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:16.840
Yes, they are so. Cinematographer on the film is Jules Brenner,

1346
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:19.000
who gets to start as DP in nineteen sixty nine

1347
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:21.559
as On Stony, then goes to do Johnny Got His

1348
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.000
Gun in seventy one, The Glasshouse, No, not that one

1349
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:28.119
in seventy two, Dyllinger in seventy three, Unwed Father, seventy four,

1350
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:31.360
Our Time, The Texas Wheelers, Cornbread, Earl and Me Medical

1351
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:33.679
Story in The Night That Panicked America in seventy five,

1352
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:37.159
seventy six, does Helter Skelter m Okay, then goes to

1353
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.719
shoot the Million Dollar Ripoff in seventy six, The Amazing

1354
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:42.400
Howard Hughes Outlaw Blues the Last Word, and then in

1355
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:48.400
nineteen seventy nine, shoots a little mini series called Salem's Lot. Wow, Okay,

1356
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:51.800
we're not done, I believe you. Then in nineteen eighty

1357
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:54.159
one goes shoot The Killing of Randy Webster in nineteen

1358
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:56.840
eighty five, Return of the Living Dead, mcguiver in eighty

1359
00:59:56.880 --> 01:00:01.440
five pros and cons. Eighty seven, Team Wolf two too, yep,

1360
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:04.679
followed by nineteen sixty nine and eighty eight, Not Quite

1361
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:06.519
Human two in eighty nine, and then Sins of the

1362
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:07.400
Mother in ninety one.

1363
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:08.079
Wow.

1364
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:12.559
Yeah, pretty sure career, Yeah, Helder Skelter. Funny enough. I

1365
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:15.559
love being a physical media collector because, you know, having

1366
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.480
a mother who showed, like showed me a bunch of movies,

1367
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:20.159
one of which being The Urbs of Tom Hanks.

1368
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:20.559
Nice.

1369
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:23.559
That movie's not streaming anywhere. Oh yeah, there's a huge

1370
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:25.800
rights issues with it currently. I don't know what it is.

1371
01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:28.440
But Mom texted me a couple days ago and she

1372
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:30.719
was like, hey, is the Burbs and Voodoo? And I

1373
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:32.039
was like, now, I was like there's a rights issue.

1374
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:33.039
She's like, well, do you have it? And I was

1375
01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:34.119
like yeah. I was like, you want to borrow my

1376
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:36.159
Blue ray? And she's like, yeah, that'd be cool took

1377
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:38.320
that over to her about three days ago. Last night,

1378
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:40.519
I'm coming back from a movie night with a friend

1379
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:42.559
and she text me. She's like, hey, do you still

1380
01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:45.519
have Helder Skelter Because she's reading that Chaos book and

1381
01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:48.400
also watching that Netflix series right now. So she borrowed

1382
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:50.320
not only the nineteen seventy six but also the two

1383
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:52.840
thousand and three, which is Jeremy Davies as Charles Manson.

1384
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:55.000
I remember that, dude. It's really good. I remember both

1385
01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:57.440
of those were really good. Helder Skelter seventy six focuses

1386
01:00:57.440 --> 01:00:59.280
a lot more on the trial, whereas two thousand and

1387
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:00.880
three focus is a lot more on the murders and

1388
01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:02.760
like the preemptive like build up to it.

1389
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:07.440
So I don't talk a lot of positivity about my education,

1390
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:10.519
and I have much more fun talking about my lack

1391
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:15.519
thereof Yes, but I had a phenomenal English teacher, I believe,

1392
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:22.519
my freshman year, and he taught an entire section about

1393
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:23.199
Helter Skelter.

1394
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:23.800
Oh wow.

1395
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:28.199
Not about the crime specifically, although they were he mentions,

1396
01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:32.679
but about the idea of Charles Manson hearing the Beatles

1397
01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:36.760
and feeling like that inspired all this crazy stuff. And

1398
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:39.559
that was how he explained to us the idea of

1399
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:44.079
interpretation of art, and then it led into him giving

1400
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:47.599
a huge long thing about Paul is Dead and how

1401
01:01:48.039 --> 01:01:49.840
he believes in a lot of people. I'm sure too

1402
01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:52.840
that the reason the Beatles never copped to the Paul

1403
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.679
is Dead thing was when Charles Manson did all these

1404
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:57.400
horrible things and said, the Beatles told me to do it.

1405
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:01.159
They were like, we never hid anything. We're not playful

1406
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:04.519
at all. We're very straightforward artists. Yeah, yeah, the Beatles,

1407
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:08.920
you know so. But I just kudos to him. He

1408
01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:11.679
was a He was a really great teacher, and I

1409
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:16.760
was enthralled the entire time he lectured about Helter Skelter

1410
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:19.679
and all that. I also want to say that it

1411
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.960
makes perfect sense that the guy shot Helter Skelter and

1412
01:02:23.079 --> 01:02:28.320
then that led him to Salem's Lot. Yeah, because I will.

1413
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:31.000
I will do as many hours as it takes to

1414
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:33.360
convince people to watch that original mini series because I

1415
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:36.239
think it kind of got shadowed by all the remakes recently.

1416
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:38.960
I would say, in a little bit, and that original

1417
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:42.320
seventy four miniseries or is it seventy four somewhere in

1418
01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:45.800
the neighbors so just had it, of course, but seventy

1419
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:48.840
nine is that seventy nine mini series still fucking scary,

1420
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:52.920
Still scary, It's very scary, still effective, and still like

1421
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:55.719
one of Stephen King's greatest adaptations.

1422
01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:56.519
Yeah, I would agree.

1423
01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:57.719
According to Stephen King too.

1424
01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:01.880
Well, every adaptation, whicheverone just paid him is the best

1425
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:06.079
one that ever happened. But yeah, no, that is.

1426
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:08.159
I mean, that's a incredible philography. So moving on to

1427
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:11.320
our cast, we have mister klu Galligher, who plays Burt

1428
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:14.440
in the film Clue is the Goat one and seven

1429
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:15.760
or one hundred and sixty five credits.

1430
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:17.239
I actually thought it'd be more.

1431
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:19.639
I did too, starting in nineteen fifty two with Omnibus.

1432
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:21.639
Then he goes on to do West Point in fifty

1433
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:23.800
six one A Dead or a live TV series, Have Gun,

1434
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:27.599
Will Travel, Laramie Alvert Hitchcock presents the Killers from sixty four,

1435
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:30.880
The Virginian, the FBI, The Glasshouse Again not that one,

1436
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:34.679
mod Squad, Kung Fu, Ima Mchue, Streets of San Francisco,

1437
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.119
Barnaby Jones, The Other Side of Midnight, A Force of One.

1438
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:38.400
Falcon Crest.

1439
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:41.079
All Roads lead to Falcon Crest.

1440
01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:44.679
The initiation in eighty four. I love that that movie's

1441
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:47.159
fun like a chopping mall. Don't get wrong, great slasher

1442
01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:49.719
film in a mall, but the Initiation another great slasher film.

1443
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:52.960
Chopping mall, having killer robots kind of takes it out

1444
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:55.480
of feeling like it's in the slasher category. I could

1445
01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:58.519
see that, and honestly, smartest move ever because it also

1446
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:00.880
doesn't get lumped in and lost with all the slasher

1447
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:03.000
movies and it's its own thing.

1448
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:03.320
Yeah.

1449
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:03.760
I love that.

1450
01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:07.800
The Initiation has always like one of my like most

1451
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.760
like memorable scenes is the use of the thing where

1452
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:13.400
they slam papers down on the spike.

1453
01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:14.559
Yeah, yeah, it's called a spike.

1454
01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:17.360
Yeah. And there's that scene where the PA gets turned

1455
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:19.000
on and her hand goes through it and there there's

1456
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:21.360
all that blooded and everything just echoing through the mall.

1457
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:23.679
No, no, I I intense I forget what that was

1458
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:26.480
a double feature with. I first discovered that from best Buy.

1459
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:28.440
Oh god, what was that double feature?

1460
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:31.679
Because the Initiation they used to so Anchor Bay did

1461
01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:33.519
these drive in double features.

1462
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:35.039
From now every Top motel mask.

1463
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:36.960
It might have been Mountain Top Motel Massacre. I think

1464
01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:39.320
it is because there was also the pit and something else. Yeah,

1465
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:41.519
and that's how I first saw hell Gate and Hellgate yep.

1466
01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:44.519
And I used to, no joke, there were ten bucks

1467
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:47.199
or fifteen bucks brand new back then at best Buy,

1468
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:49.519
and they were all released by Anchor Bay. Yeah, and

1469
01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:51.519
I used to whenever they would come out, I'd go

1470
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:55.119
buy it. I'm like fifteen years old, for sixteen, I'd

1471
01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:57.480
go buy it. And then when everybody went to bed,

1472
01:04:57.960 --> 01:04:59.840
you know, when my mom went to bed and everybody,

1473
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:02.719
I would come in dear the living room and make

1474
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:05.960
popcorn and I would sit under the TV watching them

1475
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:09.440
and have my own little like movie night double feature

1476
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:10.800
with me. Most of the time, I've never seen any

1477
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:12.719
of them because I'm like fourteen minutes the first time.

1478
01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:15.559
Most of these defeats so bad, Yeah, I know, it's so.

1479
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:19.079
Bad, Like I wanted. I actually went out of my

1480
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:23.760
way to get a region region a DVD that was

1481
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:26.599
outside of the arrow release of Hellgate that somebody was

1482
01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:28.639
just selling separately, because I was just like, ah, it

1483
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:29.280
looks like fun.

1484
01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:29.639
I'm not.

1485
01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:30.639
It was terrible.

1486
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:31.599
It's not a great one.

1487
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:34.360
Night Rider in eighty six, Into the Night in eighty five,

1488
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:36.440
the Return of Living Dead in eighty five. Then does

1489
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:39.559
Nightmare and Elm Street to Freddy's Revenge in eighty five,

1490
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:41.920
followed by Magnum p I, The Fall Guy, North and

1491
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:43.880
South From a Whisper to a Scream in eighty seven,

1492
01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:47.280
My buddy Jeff Burr, The Hidden in eighty seven, Yeah,

1493
01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.000
Tape Heads in eighty eight, I'm Gonna Get You, sucka

1494
01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:52.639
The Willies, Eddie Presley in nineteen ninety two, one.

1495
01:05:52.519 --> 01:05:54.159
Of my favorite films of all time. Another one by

1496
01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:54.840
my buddy.

1497
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:58.039
Burr, puppet Master five in ninety four. Again Burr for

1498
01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:00.679
the wind Walker, Texas Ranger in ninety five, I mean

1499
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:03.079
a classic, takes a hiatus for a little bit and

1500
01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:05.679
then Feast in two thousand and five. Yeah. Then he

1501
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:07.760
goes on to do Purana three, Double D, Children of

1502
01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:10.199
the Corn, Runaway, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood in

1503
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:12.960
twenty nineteen, and Last Give Till It Hurts in twenty

1504
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:15.239
twenty two. He also left us in twenty twenty two,

1505
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:17.880
August fifth, at ninety three from natural causes.

1506
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:22.639
Yeah. He was a legend, legend, and his legend isn't

1507
01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:26.880
just in film. If you talk to anybody who's actively

1508
01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:30.519
living in Los Angeles, they knew clue to some extent

1509
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:34.079
because He had a seat at at the New Beverly, Yeah,

1510
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:36.239
that he always sat in that had a plaque and

1511
01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:38.360
every point that they put a plaque on the chair.

1512
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:38.679
Yep.

1513
01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:42.840
So his name was on the seat. And because he

1514
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.280
would live, he lived there. Basically he would just sit.

1515
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.000
He would sit in on a million screenings, especially during

1516
01:06:48.039 --> 01:06:49.960
that period where he didn't work at all. He was

1517
01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:53.800
just retired. Yeah. I don't think Clue thought he was

1518
01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:56.320
going to live to be into his nineties. So I

1519
01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:58.320
think that's why he started acting again in part. I

1520
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.920
don't know about finances, but just you know, one day

1521
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:03.320
he was like, well I did my, I did my

1522
01:07:03.719 --> 01:07:06.559
you know, six years of just watching movies and hanging

1523
01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:08.519
out and hell.

1524
01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:13.039
If you have not seen I think it's called out

1525
01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:15.719
of print? Is that the New Beverly documentary title? Yeah,

1526
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:18.039
out of Print is a fantastic documentary. Features a lot

1527
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:20.039
of people from Hollywood, obviously, and there's a huge section

1528
01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:20.840
about Clue in there.

1529
01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:23.760
Yeah. No, he's yeah, he was a legend. Yeah.

1530
01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:27.159
So next on our list is James Karen, who plays Frank.

1531
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:29.239
Two hundred and fourteen credits on his resume.

1532
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:30.199
That doesn't shock me.

1533
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:34.199
Starting in nineteen forty eight with Philco Television Playhouse, Oh

1534
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:36.960
My God, then goes on to be in Car fifty

1535
01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:39.039
four or Are You in sixty one? Hercules in New

1536
01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:42.280
York in nineteen seventy, All My Children nineteen seventy, Amazing Grace,

1537
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:45.400
Streets of San Francisco, All the President's Men in seventy six,

1538
01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:49.079
The Blue Knight, Love Boat, capricorn Ie Rockford Files, The

1539
01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:52.480
China Sindrome in seventy nine, The Jazz Singer The Jefferson's

1540
01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:54.760
Poltergeis in eighty two. Because he's the man who moved

1541
01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:55.960
the headstones.

1542
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:57.679
Yep, damn right, but he didn't move the bodies.

1543
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:02.559
Time Walker in eighty two, Mash in eighty three, Family Ties, Cheers,

1544
01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:05.280
Return of Living Dead in eighty five, Jagged Edge, Invaders

1545
01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:08.960
from Mars, Amazing Stories, Wall Street in eighty seven, Sledgehammer

1546
01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:13.760
in eighty seven. Oh Wow, Yeah nice Yeah, moving on

1547
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:17.039
to Girlfriend from Hell in eighty nine, Charles in Charge,

1548
01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:19.279
The commit or the Willie Is the Larry Sanders Show,

1549
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:21.800
Revenge of the Nerds Four Nerds in Love, Don't recommend

1550
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:25.840
that one? The Commission Congo Piranha, the Piranha remake in

1551
01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:26.359
ninety five.

1552
01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:28.039
Yeah, I remember him popping up in that.

1553
01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:32.119
Nixon joy Ride, Seinfeld apt pupil Any Given, Sunday Walker,

1554
01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:36.000
Texas Ranger, mahaland Drive The Nightmare Room, Superman Returns, American

1555
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:38.880
Dad and Cynthia in twenty eighteen. He left us in

1556
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:42.359
twenty eighteen October twenty third, ninety four for a cardiac arrest.

1557
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:47.840
But you left out possibly his greatest acting accomplishment.

1558
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:48.359
What was that?

1559
01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:51.439
Being the guy in the A and P supermarket commercials.

1560
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:53.520
Oh, that's right, yep. That is how he was known.

1561
01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:58.640
He was everywhere in those ad campaigns. And I shopped

1562
01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:00.520
at A ANDP when I lived in jeriy because we

1563
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:02.239
had We don't have those in Ohio, but we had

1564
01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:05.680
those in Jersey and amp's gone now. Yeah, And it

1565
01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:08.039
was the most bizarre thing because the last I think

1566
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:10.199
it was before just before COVID, the last time I

1567
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:14.000
went to Jersey, A and P was closing everything and

1568
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:16.039
me and my buddy Mike went to an AMP and

1569
01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:18.079
literally the had price tags on the shelving.

1570
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:20.560
I mean it was just everything everything was go.

1571
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:24.199
But it was the most like weird and depressing to

1572
01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:28.199
see a supermarket just that was like synonymous with the

1573
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:30.319
East Coast yeah, gone because in the East Coast it

1574
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:34.239
was ANP and stopping shop were like everything. Yeah, so

1575
01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:37.279
I just wanted to mention his contribution to the world

1576
01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:38.399
of supermarkets.

1577
01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:40.159
They feature some of his videos of A and P

1578
01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:41.680
and the More Brains documentary.

1579
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:43.239
That's how I first found out about it. Yeah.

1580
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:46.520
Tom Matthews, who plays Freddy also in our cast. He

1581
01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:49.159
gets to start in eighty one on Dynasty eighty two,

1582
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:52.079
goes on to be on Falcon Crest All Roads, then

1583
01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:55.199
stars in The Woman in Red with Gene Wilder in

1584
01:09:55.279 --> 01:09:58.159
eighty four, Returnal Living Dead in eighty five, Dangerously Close

1585
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:00.880
Friday the Thirteenth, Part six, Jason, It is an eighty six,

1586
01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:04.000
The Dirty Dozen, The Deadly Mission in eighty seven, Mister President,

1587
01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:07.319
Return of Leaving Dead Part two, Alien from La Midnight Cabaret,

1588
01:10:07.520 --> 01:10:09.199
Born to Ride in ninety one. Have you heard about

1589
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:12.640
this movie? By the way, John Stamos as a motorcycle

1590
01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:13.520
gang leader.

1591
01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:15.319
I mean it sounds awesome.

1592
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:16.960
It's in my voodoo because I recently got it in

1593
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:20.560
that shuffle that I lucked into and I'm dying to

1594
01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:22.600
check it out because the cover is him just leaning

1595
01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:23.199
on a bike with a.

1596
01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:26.479
Shotgun goddamn right, it is sounds bitching.

1597
01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:29.800
Blood Batch in ninety one, Nemesis in ninety two, Kickboxer four,

1598
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:32.479
The Aggressor, Heat Seeker Er If Looks Could Kill? Not

1599
01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:36.600
that one blast from nineteen ninety seven, that Rugger Howard

1600
01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:39.159
terrorist movie that we watched one night about the Pool Team.

1601
01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:42.920
Oh yeah, yeah, mean Guns in ninety seven, The Peacemaker,

1602
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:46.000
Crazy Six Sorcerers, The Vampire Hunter's Club in two thousand

1603
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:48.199
and one, Friday the Thirteenth, The Game in twenty seventeen,

1604
01:10:48.600 --> 01:10:51.920
He Boys, Tommy, Never Hike Alone in twenty seventeen fan

1605
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:55.920
film Killer Therapy, Warpath, Final Summer, Never Hike Alone two,

1606
01:10:56.119 --> 01:10:59.319
and most recently, Go Away in twenty twenty four. Wow,

1607
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:00.800
So he's still going.

1608
01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:03.319
Oh yeah, Well, I love that he's been reprising his

1609
01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:07.000
Tommy Jarvis role in fan films, you know, because fun,

1610
01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:09.960
if they're not going to give us our silly sequels,

1611
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.000
well then damn it, we're gonna have to make them ourselves.

1612
01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:14.439
Well, and I you know, it's it's one thing for

1613
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:16.600
us to bring up frid thirteenth, The Game. But I

1614
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:18.199
don't know if we've ever talked about on this show,

1615
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:20.439
but like we were dedicated to that game for a

1616
01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:22.840
long period of time with good friends. Oh god, yeah,

1617
01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:25.359
I mean that was that was a We would start

1618
01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:28.039
at like six pm on a Saturday and go until

1619
01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:29.239
sometimes four in the morning.

1620
01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:30.920
I bought a PS four so I could play it,

1621
01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:31.439
and I got a.

1622
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:34.119
PS four as your friend and other friends to play

1623
01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:36.119
it with you, guys, I got all of our friends

1624
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:38.560
to go in and get you a twenty fifth birthday. Yeah,

1625
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:41.439
because you want it in so bad I did. No.

1626
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:43.479
I remember, I remember when you fired it up for

1627
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:46.079
the first time, and it was it was in you

1628
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:48.079
were in a cabin and Jason just came around that

1629
01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:49.880
back door and I was just like, holy.

1630
01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:52.960
Shit saw that first year of playing it scared the

1631
01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:54.319
crap out of me all the time too.

1632
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:58.199
No, rip frid thirteenth the game. It recently went offline

1633
01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:00.600
and we've been missing it ever so, I.

1634
01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:02.840
Mean, unfortunately, since they couldn't update it anymore.

1635
01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:05.800
Yeah, it had been kind of the lawsuit killed it unfortunately.

1636
01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:08.520
Yeah, it had been kind of dead for a while anyway.

1637
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:10.239
But there was a time period where we would start

1638
01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:12.960
to lull and then they'd release a new Jason or

1639
01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:14.800
they'd release a new map and we'd be.

1640
01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:17.119
Like whoa or double XP weekends. Yeah.

1641
01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.000
Yeah, used to come over and I'd get the TV

1642
01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:21.600
out of my bedroom and put it in the kitchen

1643
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:23.640
and you'd play on the other side of the house.

1644
01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:26.000
You just reminded me I need to download sal Jason

1645
01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:27.439
video before Facebook takes it down.

1646
01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:28.119
Yeah, you better.

1647
01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:31.119
I better. So what was your first time watching Return

1648
01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:32.039
of the Living Dead?

1649
01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:34.159
Well, I'll tell you it's a weird way to put it,

1650
01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:38.439
but I don't remember, okay, because I saw it so young.

1651
01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:39.560
Yeah that.

1652
01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:44.880
What I do remember is my mother teasing me by

1653
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:50.479
acting like a zombie going And my favorite story about

1654
01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:53.119
that was one time my mom was laying on the

1655
01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:55.319
couch and she was like half asleep and I was like, mom, mom,

1656
01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:59.319
I was five four, my mama, and she just opened

1657
01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:02.279
her eyes and if your head went right and I

1658
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:04.800
dropped to the floor cross. I was so scared.

1659
01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:05.640
Yeah, I see.

1660
01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:08.640
So that was the first time. It had to have

1661
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:12.000
been back then. Yeah, but I didn't really like revisit

1662
01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:15.000
it by like sitting down and really watching it until

1663
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:17.239
I caught it on Monster Vision when I was I

1664
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:18.880
could have been ten or eleven, maybe twelve.

1665
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:20.920
Of Saturday Night goddamn right.

1666
01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:23.760
And I mean I was really really young, but I

1667
01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:25.359
remember Joe Bob showing it and I was like, I'm

1668
01:13:25.359 --> 01:13:27.439
gonna sit down and watch Return Living Dead because two

1669
01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:29.920
played cable like HBO and stuff a lot when I

1670
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:33.319
was a kid. Yeah, and I loved the hell out

1671
01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:33.479
of it.

1672
01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:37.439
Then I obtained the DVD when it came out, and

1673
01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:41.479
then I obtained the DVD bootleg which had the sound

1674
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:45.600
from the VHS release all of the soundtrack. Yeah.

1675
01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:47.479
So that was the first time I watched it. Was

1676
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:50.800
too young to remember, but I really came into adoring

1677
01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:53.600
it in my teen years once I had that Dvdah,

1678
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:56.439
I'd watch it all the time. Any horror NERD friends

1679
01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:59.039
I made as I got older, I'd be like, dude,

1680
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:01.039
do you want to watch Living Dead? But with the

1681
01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:04.840
original soundtrack because the first DVD had a ton of

1682
01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:07.520
replaced music that did Now we only have one song.

1683
01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:09.680
One song missing, which I'm sure there's probably a cut

1684
01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:10.680
out there that the cut it back in.

1685
01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:13.079
No, I guarantee it. The only problem is we can't

1686
01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:14.439
burn a four K diss We cannot.

1687
01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:17.800
We cannot. My first time seeing it, like I said,

1688
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:21.239
I had seen three multiple times on cable by this point,

1689
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:22.800
So three was the one that I saw first out

1690
01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:25.840
of any of them. So I had heard about it.

1691
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:28.239
I'd probably seen like some of the talking heads, like

1692
01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:31.159
the one hundred scariest moments like on Bravo and stuff

1693
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:32.760
like talk about and whatnot. So I was aware of

1694
01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:34.920
the movie, just never really had gotten a copy of

1695
01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:37.039
it until I was working at my local bookstore and

1696
01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:39.520
somebody brought it in with some stuff to sell. Took

1697
01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:42.680
it home that night, watched it and was just blown

1698
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:44.159
away by how much fun it was.

1699
01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:45.000
Oh, it's a blast.

1700
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:47.960
It's just a blast. It moves so quickly. You're talking

1701
01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:50.399
like it said, ninety one minutes, and it doesn't feel

1702
01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:52.000
like it like it flies by.

1703
01:14:52.319 --> 01:14:54.159
Honestly, it feels like it's eighty minutes.

1704
01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:56.960
Yeah, like it. It feels short. It feels short. Yeah,

1705
01:14:57.039 --> 01:15:01.479
it's so much fun. It had in sanely dark ending

1706
01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:04.239
that I didn't expect the first time you watch it.

1707
01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:07.039
Every time I watch it, I kind of forget, yeah,

1708
01:15:07.079 --> 01:15:09.560
that that's the ending. Yeah, I kind of forget.

1709
01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:12.039
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, it was. It was one that

1710
01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:14.920
when you see that that that that moment when you

1711
01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:16.760
see a movie and you're just like this movie's gonna

1712
01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:18.960
be with me forever now, like there's there's no turning back.

1713
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:21.640
I've seen this now, and I want to show other people.

1714
01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:23.640
This, and I try, although sometimes I fail. I try

1715
01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:25.520
to watch it on July third, which is technically the

1716
01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:28.439
day it takes place, because it's fourth of July weekend

1717
01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:30.079
and all that. So I usually try to watch it

1718
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:31.840
on July third, or at the very least share the

1719
01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:34.439
shot from when it says July third.

1720
01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:37.359
Well, naturally, party time by forty five Grave that version

1721
01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:40.319
of it. The way that they end it with the credits,

1722
01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:42.960
and like, as we said, like the hey last time

1723
01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:45.960
on the Return of Living Day, it ends like a party.

1724
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:50.319
Yeah, it wants you to know that ending credit sequence

1725
01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:51.880
is meant to like kind of let you know you're

1726
01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:53.880
supposed to be laughing. Yeah, that it was meant to

1727
01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:56.000
be a thrill ride with lots of humor and lots

1728
01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:59.920
of of sardonic wit and lots of weird east.

1729
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:02.319
Yeah, you can't. You can't get out of this movie

1730
01:16:02.399 --> 01:16:04.279
not having a good time with it. It's just it's

1731
01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:08.159
you to try. Yeah, It's it's so much fun, and

1732
01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:10.319
it's like it is the epitome of a zombie movie

1733
01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:13.239
that you want because it's a scary zombie movie but

1734
01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:17.119
also has the laughs, has the gore, has thrills, chills

1735
01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:17.960
and chemical spills.

1736
01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:19.399
Did you just come up with that?

1737
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:21.520
Yeah? Thank you.

1738
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:23.840
No, I'm impressed. All right, I'm impressed.

1739
01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:27.439
As Enrique said, we do open on July third, but

1740
01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:29.680
before we do that, we get to a title card

1741
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:32.039
that says, the events portrayed in this film are all true.

1742
01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:35.359
The names are real names of real people and real organizations.

1743
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:40.800
Which I wonder how the lawyers, I think it was oriyon,

1744
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:44.159
I wonder how they they felt about that. Yeah, I

1745
01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:47.439
mean I would guess that the argument was made that,

1746
01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:50.359
look at this movie, there's no way I mean, it's

1747
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:53.319
literally the dead rising from the ground and stuff. So

1748
01:16:53.359 --> 01:16:55.119
they were like, nobody's gonna believe that. But yeah, it

1749
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:57.359
does the opposite of where it'll say like this is

1750
01:16:57.399 --> 01:16:59.239
based on a true story, but the names have been

1751
01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:01.239
changed or whatever. No, no, it just says like these

1752
01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:03.359
are all real events, this really happened. These are the

1753
01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:06.479
real names, the real businesses, everything that kills me. That

1754
01:17:06.720 --> 01:17:10.199
and that kind of sets you up because if you

1755
01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:12.479
don't know what you're getting, you're like what is this what?

1756
01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:13.119
Yeah.

1757
01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:15.479
Well, and a lot of the people who were watching

1758
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:18.840
it were expecting a Night of the Living Dead Seacret, yeah,

1759
01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:21.800
which is what the novel they had originally bought the

1760
01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:22.560
rights to was.

1761
01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:24.560
Which I'll get into that in the trivia too about

1762
01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:26.439
all that, because I mean it's a lot, it's a

1763
01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:28.279
huge it's a huge thing. Because I don't think people

1764
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:33.239
realize that Romero's dead saga. I guess we can call

1765
01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:35.840
it out at this point. Yeah, had a lot of

1766
01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:37.199
legal litigation to.

1767
01:17:37.359 --> 01:17:41.439
It, well, yeah, because Russo and Romero wrote the screenplay together. Yeah,

1768
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:45.000
and they had a bit of a falling out. Yeah,

1769
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:47.920
to the point where Russo was like the only person

1770
01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:50.720
originally in Image ten who's not in Image ten. Yeah,

1771
01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:52.640
it just kind of happened that.

1772
01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:55.279
It's just interesting that, like people automatically, I think sometimes

1773
01:17:55.319 --> 01:17:57.439
think this movie is in that and in that canon,

1774
01:17:57.960 --> 01:17:58.920
and it's technically not.

1775
01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:03.520
Well for it's Return of the Living Dead of course,

1776
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:05.600
then there's return to Horror High. Yeah, and I mean

1777
01:18:05.640 --> 01:18:06.680
there's a Horror Higher.

1778
01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:08.840
The Killers Tomatoes, Well, that was a sequel.

1779
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:11.800
David Son of So.

1780
01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:16.359
We open on July third, nineteen eighty four, five thirty pm.

1781
01:18:16.600 --> 01:18:20.439
Eastern daylight time at u Vita chemicals you need that,

1782
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:24.000
you need a yeah, medical supplies, not chemicals. It's okay.

1783
01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:26.880
Yeah, you know you're just still riding high on your

1784
01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:28.920
on your turn of phrase.

1785
01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:30.840
And chemicals spills.

1786
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:32.439
No, it's it's it's good.

1787
01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:34.079
But I'm gonna leave now.

1788
01:18:34.199 --> 01:18:36.359
No, it's fair, it's fair. You go ahead, and I'll

1789
01:18:36.439 --> 01:18:39.199
just uh, I'll just do my Yoda Freddie voice.

1790
01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:42.640
So we're in Louisville, Kentucky, and we are meeting uh

1791
01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:45.479
Frank as he is introducing Freddie the new guy to

1792
01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:48.279
basically the rundown of things, as Bert, the owner of

1793
01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:50.079
the facility, is leaving for the day, and.

1794
01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:54.159
Uh, what's the uh the other guy who works the

1795
01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:57.640
guy who works for Bert, Oh, Frank, Frank, Yeah Frank,

1796
01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:00.920
it's his nephew. Yeah, that had he's showing the ropes

1797
01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:03.720
because they need warehouse help. Yeah, and I can have

1798
01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:04.560
you worked warehouse?

1799
01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:08.640
Uh no, you would, you would know, not up put

1800
01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:10.880
it this way, not as a like job job.

1801
01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:11.119
I was.

1802
01:19:11.159 --> 01:19:12.880
I've been paid undo the table to work like a

1803
01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:15.000
couple of warehouse jobs back in college.

1804
01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:18.000
But like that, shipping and receiving and stuff packing creates. Yeah,

1805
01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:21.159
I worked my first job. I had a lot of

1806
01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:23.600
jobs because I worked at a distribution company and we

1807
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:26.760
had a warehouse and a lot of times if they

1808
01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:29.840
were really busy in the in the catalog department where

1809
01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:32.600
we would send we sold movies. We shipped movies to

1810
01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:36.880
other distributors, to stores, and to individuals. So I spent

1811
01:19:37.039 --> 01:19:39.399
many days picking and packing is what you know, what

1812
01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:43.399
they call it. And I love the opening of this

1813
01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:47.960
movie because it captures so well your first day at

1814
01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.399
a job, where it's like you got the young guy

1815
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:52.560
who's like trying not to mess it, mess it up

1816
01:19:52.600 --> 01:19:55.039
because he needs a job, really, and then the old

1817
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:57.680
timer who's just like I just want to laugh or whatever.

1818
01:19:57.720 --> 01:19:59.520
I've been here for twenty five goddamn years.

1819
01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:02.359
I mean, Tom Matthews and James Karen are what make

1820
01:20:02.479 --> 01:20:04.640
this movie. I mean, all the characters are great, but

1821
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:07.359
their camaraderie in the beginning and then adding Burton to

1822
01:20:07.439 --> 01:20:09.520
the mix later on, it just is what makes this

1823
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:10.640
movie so much fun.

1824
01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:12.840
It's one of the arguments for why they brought them back.

1825
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:15.239
Yeah part two, I see. They were such an incredible

1826
01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:17.479
part of it, although in that one they're grave grave robbers.

1827
01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:21.039
But it works so well, Oh, it's same jokes. Watch

1828
01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:23.520
your tongue if you like this job, like this job. Yeah,

1829
01:20:23.560 --> 01:20:27.079
it's after something really heinous happens that watch your tongue

1830
01:20:27.119 --> 01:20:28.640
if you like this job, like this job.

1831
01:20:28.880 --> 01:20:30.960
So Frank has taken Freddy through the ropes. He's shown

1832
01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:34.000
them the skeletons, the ones that have perfect teeth going

1833
01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:36.239
over male and female and all this stuff.

1834
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:38.560
And also spinning a little bullshit for fun too, like

1835
01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:41.119
saying like, I think there's a skeleton skeleton far yeah,

1836
01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:43.800
and then he's like oh, he's like, ah, come on, yeah.

1837
01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:45.359
And then when he makes it and I love too

1838
01:20:45.399 --> 01:20:48.600
when he when Freddy adds the levity, Yeah, he's just like,

1839
01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:51.000
why kid, you're learning. So it means very funny.

1840
01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:54.520
Shows him that they have medical specimens for for vets,

1841
01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:58.720
like they've got to dogs cutting halfs split dogs, split dogs.

1842
01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:00.960
They've got all kinds of of dead butterflies are on

1843
01:21:01.039 --> 01:21:03.159
the wall, they've got cadavers in the fridge. There's a

1844
01:21:03.199 --> 01:21:04.760
little bit of everything in this place.

1845
01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:06.479
Yeah. Well, and it makes sense because working in a

1846
01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:10.239
medical supply house you have to get very comfortable with

1847
01:21:10.359 --> 01:21:14.119
all the weird stuff very quickly. Yeah, and I love

1848
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:16.720
how the production design is so solid in this movie

1849
01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:18.800
because if you look in the background, which you really

1850
01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:20.880
can in the four K on ynd one hundred and

1851
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:24.000
twentyeth screen, you see like there are boxes that just

1852
01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:27.199
say like five hundred milliliter beakers, because that's the other

1853
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:29.760
stuff you would need. It's just your bread and butter.

1854
01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:35.560
Would be stocking skeletons, stocking corpses and cadavers. Yeah. Which,

1855
01:21:35.720 --> 01:21:38.000
the funny thing is, I know I'm getting old because

1856
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.000
when he was saying, like, you know, we usually have more,

1857
01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:41.479
but we only have one. We're waiting on a shipment

1858
01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:43.680
on Monday. He's like, you know what, you don't want

1859
01:21:43.680 --> 01:21:45.920
to overstock. You don't want your It's like the food business.

1860
01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:49.000
You don't want your inventory to lose its freshness. But

1861
01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:51.760
my first thought, now that I'm older, my first thought

1862
01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:55.159
was like, oh my god, the regulatory paperwork to run

1863
01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:57.039
a place that's selling it must be a nightmare.

1864
01:21:57.279 --> 01:22:01.159
Yeah, no kidding. So all of this going on, we

1865
01:22:01.279 --> 01:22:04.119
also catch up with Freddy's girlfriend Tina, who is with

1866
01:22:04.680 --> 01:22:09.199
the Friends of Freddy, which includes suicide and trash and

1867
01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:13.760
who else I'm trying to remember then and Rudolph Chuck

1868
01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:18.039
and Spider and Scuz.

1869
01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:24.920
Scuz now and these guys are about as stereotypical punk

1870
01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:28.159
rockers eighties punk rockers as you can get. Yeah, they

1871
01:22:28.319 --> 01:22:32.199
have a ton of varying styles, which I like, You've got,

1872
01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:34.279
you know, guys who've got like the piercings out of control.

1873
01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:35.640
You've got the guys who are just like wearing the

1874
01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:39.079
wristbands and the cut off jackets, giant trench coats, giant

1875
01:22:39.079 --> 01:22:41.920
trench coats. You've got some people got mohawks, some people

1876
01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:45.439
got just tall kind of flock of seagulls hair. You've

1877
01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:49.439
got like it ticks like every box. Yeah. And then

1878
01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:52.319
the young woman who's Freddy's girlfriend, in my opinion, doesn't

1879
01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:53.920
fit at all with the group.

1880
01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:57.079
Beverly Randolph and Juwel Shepherd really are like the ones

1881
01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:59.800
that stand out most because they're they're dressed nothing like

1882
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:02.039
the group. Jewel looks like a punk a little bit.

1883
01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:04.640
She's got that kind of flock of seagulls looking haircuts.

1884
01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:05.479
He's a party girl.

1885
01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:08.560
Oh sure, sure, yeah, but no, but but the uh

1886
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:13.079
what was the other girl? Tina? Tina's wearing like pants

1887
01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:16.359
up to her belly button and a shirt and a

1888
01:23:16.479 --> 01:23:19.880
jacket and a hair thing like, she just doesn't look

1889
01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:22.000
like this is her crowd.

1890
01:23:22.159 --> 01:23:22.880
Yeah, no, it does not.

1891
01:23:23.159 --> 01:23:26.000
And when you look at Freddie, you know, Freddie's supposed

1892
01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:27.640
to be working, but he's working a warehouse job. So

1893
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:30.199
he's wearing a sleeveless shirt, he's got a little rat

1894
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:31.760
tail on the back of his hair, he's got leach

1895
01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:34.319
top hair, and he's got one earring yep. So you

1896
01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:36.159
can kind of see like, oh, maybe he's just not

1897
01:23:36.279 --> 01:23:38.520
as ostentatious as the rest of the rest of them. Ye,

1898
01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:41.279
or he's just dressing down because he's like, it's a job.

1899
01:23:41.319 --> 01:23:42.800
It's a warehouse job, so I don't have to like

1900
01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:45.039
cut my hair, but I can't show up wearing like

1901
01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:47.159
a spiked bracelets and leather jackets.

1902
01:23:47.399 --> 01:23:49.760
So they're driving to meet Freddie because Freddie gets off

1903
01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:52.079
at eight. Is that the a ten? I think this

1904
01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:53.520
is a ten to ten Okay, yeah, So he gets

1905
01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:55.439
off at ten. So they arrive at eight o'clock and

1906
01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:56.960
they and they're like, well, I'm not going to see

1907
01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:58.600
it for two hours, is what Suicide says. He's the

1908
01:23:58.640 --> 01:24:00.960
one driving the car, and that's when I think it's uh,

1909
01:24:01.640 --> 01:24:04.880
I can't remember if it is, uh, Spider or Scuzzet

1910
01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:07.960
says let's go there, and there's a cemetery right across.

1911
01:24:07.720 --> 01:24:09.840
And they're all like, oh man, not again. Well at

1912
01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:11.560
first they say like we can always go this place

1913
01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:13.279
or this place, like no, man, the cop said if

1914
01:24:13.319 --> 01:24:15.079
they if we go back to that place, they'll shoot us.

1915
01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:17.079
And you know cost gas? Do you have money for gas?

1916
01:24:17.159 --> 01:24:17.239
Oh?

1917
01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:18.680
It was like we could always drive around. It's like

1918
01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:19.800
you want to buy some gas.

1919
01:24:20.439 --> 01:24:23.279
So by Unita there is a cemetery that they decide

1920
01:24:23.319 --> 01:24:24.680
to go ahead and break into.

1921
01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:28.159
Yeah pretty easily, Yeah, very easily. The place is clearly

1922
01:24:28.319 --> 01:24:34.079
not often used anymore. It's pretty, it's pretty unkempt. And yeah,

1923
01:24:34.119 --> 01:24:35.880
they busted there. And I love that trash played by

1924
01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:39.800
Linea quickly she is the dark girl, so like when

1925
01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:42.399
she's she's already talking about like death and this and

1926
01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:44.000
this and this, and then when they say like that,

1927
01:24:44.239 --> 01:24:46.000
everybody goes, oh, I'm not the seven, and she goes,

1928
01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:49.680
let's do that. I love the way she her her

1929
01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:53.880
deadpan delivery, especially because that's so not Linea and everything else.

1930
01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:57.039
Oh yeah is so great, let's do that, just very

1931
01:24:57.399 --> 01:24:58.439
flat direct.

1932
01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:02.119
So they break into this military Meanwhile, back at at

1933
01:25:02.199 --> 01:25:06.800
the medical supply, we are seeing that Frank and uh,

1934
01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:09.800
well like the name Frank and Freddy. Frank and Freddy

1935
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:12.720
are sitting down, they're doing paperwork, and that's when they

1936
01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:14.439
get into a discussion about.

1937
01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:20.119
Have you ever seen that film Night of the Living Dead?

1938
01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:22.960
And he basically tells him like it was a true story.

1939
01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:24.680
He's like, but they showed zombies taken over the world.

1940
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:27.319
He's like, well, the change it all around. Also love that,

1941
01:25:27.399 --> 01:25:30.960
he says it so simply just like they they told

1942
01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:33.279
the filmmaker that if he tried to tell the true story,

1943
01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:36.119
they just sue his ass off. And I'm like, I

1944
01:25:36.199 --> 01:25:40.199
mean he's like violating government confidence. Yeah, but I like that.

1945
01:25:40.279 --> 01:25:42.560
It's just soon as his as well, because this is

1946
01:25:42.680 --> 01:25:47.560
so that second hand. You know, it's Friday. We're kind

1947
01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:50.119
of goofing off like work is going to be over soon,

1948
01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:55.800
you know. It's it's it's the vibe is so Friday.

1949
01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:58.159
Oh yeah, and they've set up it's.

1950
01:25:58.000 --> 01:25:59.840
A holiday weekend, holiday weekend. You know.

1951
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:02.520
Bert's leaving. He literally says like, you know, I'll see

1952
01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:04.079
you at the barbecue on Sunday. He says, you know,

1953
01:26:04.079 --> 01:26:05.680
I won't miss it, and then he goes, hey, just

1954
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:07.640
do me a favor. Whatever you do, don't name it

1955
01:26:07.680 --> 01:26:08.000
after me.

1956
01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:08.920
You know.

1957
01:26:09.039 --> 01:26:11.600
He's so he's clearly like that boss who's just kind

1958
01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:13.880
of I'm sure he can be pretty intense, but it's

1959
01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:15.600
like it's the way you cand, like, just get the

1960
01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:16.239
work done, get the.

1961
01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:18.600
Hell out of out here. So that's when they get

1962
01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:21.840
into the topic of triox in two four five.

1963
01:26:21.800 --> 01:26:24.960
Two four fives and the chemical that he claims is

1964
01:26:25.039 --> 01:26:28.079
what started the zombie he started because they were developed

1965
01:26:28.119 --> 01:26:30.159
it to spray on marijuana. I love the thing. Never

1966
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:31.000
explained why.

1967
01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:32.720
Yeah that that that is always one thing I do

1968
01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:35.159
like that Marijuana's brought up and then never talked about

1969
01:26:35.159 --> 01:26:35.399
it again.

1970
01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:37.720
The army it was for spraying on marijuana. I'm assuming

1971
01:26:37.800 --> 01:26:43.079
to kill the marijuana, would guess maybe, because why would

1972
01:26:43.119 --> 01:26:46.560
the military want to preserve marijuana plants or or to

1973
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:49.560
poison in marijuana. But even then it's like, what would

1974
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:53.000
the purpose? Yeah, but just by throwing that in there, though,

1975
01:26:53.800 --> 01:26:55.680
it makes it even more of one of those like

1976
01:26:55.880 --> 01:26:58.279
urban legend tall tales because now you've involved because remember

1977
01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:01.640
this in the eighties in Illicit Rug Connection two, which

1978
01:27:01.720 --> 01:27:02.960
just makes everybody's ears per cup.

1979
01:27:03.039 --> 01:27:05.560
Well, on his delivery of you know, well what happened,

1980
01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:08.600
he's like, how typical government fuck up? I love I

1981
01:27:08.720 --> 01:27:09.840
love that line delivery.

1982
01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:11.560
Yeah, yeah, because because he's like, how do you know

1983
01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:13.520
if it's such a secret, and he says, typical government

1984
01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:16.720
fuck up. They took all the soil and the corpses

1985
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:19.079
and everything, and they they put him in barrels for them,

1986
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:21.479
in barrels. They sent them away to keep it a secret.

1987
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:22.439
And he's like, well, how do you know, He's like,

1988
01:27:22.439 --> 01:27:25.279
typical government fuck up. They sent some of those barrels here,

1989
01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:30.119
which I love because what also, but then when when

1990
01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:31.520
he says like do you want to see it, yeah,

1991
01:27:31.560 --> 01:27:34.479
they go down they're all there there down there.

1992
01:27:34.439 --> 01:27:37.520
With military stamping and property. If you see this number

1993
01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:39.079
or if you see this, call this number.

1994
01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:41.720
And I love the simplicity of the barrels. Just say

1995
01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:45.520
property of the Department of the Army yep. And I'm

1996
01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:47.439
not saying that that's the wrong wording, but it's just

1997
01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:51.439
so like, well, there's no there's no misreading that.

1998
01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:54.600
So that is when Frank takes an entire roll of

1999
01:27:54.680 --> 01:27:57.600
paper towels, mind you, sprays them with some windecks and

2000
01:27:57.800 --> 01:27:59.840
wipes off the canistry as he lifts the lid and

2001
01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:01.119
you see a corpse inside there.

2002
01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:04.560
Now, I want to say, because you you singled out

2003
01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:07.079
wiping the canister with the whole roll of paper towels.

2004
01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:11.239
This is a wonderful example of an actor. I'm betting

2005
01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:14.159
he came up with that. Yeah that it wasn't something,

2006
01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:16.279
because there's a lot of good improv in this movie.

2007
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:19.279
But that's one of those great examples of an actor

2008
01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:22.039
making one little choice that everyone remembers forever.

2009
01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:24.399
Picks up on. Yeah. Yeah, so he wipes it down.

2010
01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:27.119
We see a corpse inside, and that's the cause. Is

2011
01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:29.079
Freddy task you know? Well, like, you know, is there

2012
01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:30.960
any worry about leakag She's like, oh no, these things

2013
01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:33.239
are tight, you know, US government slaps it.

2014
01:28:33.359 --> 01:28:35.399
He says, these were designed by the US Car Army

2015
01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:40.399
Corps of Engineers. Slaps it and then the gas is released.

2016
01:28:40.039 --> 01:28:41.960
And they start coughing, fall into the floor, and we

2017
01:28:42.039 --> 01:28:43.880
get into the opening credits of the Return of Living

2018
01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:46.359
Dead and and one of the best themes.

2019
01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:49.439
As a child, that was the funniest joke in the world.

2020
01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:52.079
Oh yeah, there's something so great, especially when you're young,

2021
01:28:52.359 --> 01:28:54.800
you know, when you got a little bit simpler that

2022
01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:57.239
the idea of somebody saying something and then immediately it

2023
01:28:57.359 --> 01:28:58.000
being negated.

2024
01:28:58.119 --> 01:28:59.600
Well, and I didn't expect it when I was watching

2025
01:28:59.640 --> 01:29:01.199
for the first, you know, And he slaps it and

2026
01:29:01.239 --> 01:29:03.279
then it just completely breaks like that, and we just

2027
01:29:03.399 --> 01:29:05.640
go into everything. I'm like, oh shit, I'm so in.

2028
01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:10.520
And the the trioxin theme song is amazing. Bump bump bump, bomb,

2029
01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:14.840
bump bump bum And we get to see that this

2030
01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:19.279
this gas is getting all over them. We see all

2031
01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:21.560
of this this stuff happening. And now when they wake up,

2032
01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:23.399
they look really sick.

2033
01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:26.560
They look sick, they're still coughing, they're gagging, and that's

2034
01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:29.119
when he's like, you know something, something's not right. So

2035
01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:31.800
they make their way back up the steps and we

2036
01:29:31.880 --> 01:29:34.920
start to hear some animal sounds, strictly dogs.

2037
01:29:35.079 --> 01:29:36.119
The whining dogs.

2038
01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:36.880
Whining dogs.

2039
01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:37.600
What the hell is that?

2040
01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:40.640
And we make our way over to the the split

2041
01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:43.319
shelf and one of the dogs, actually all of them,

2042
01:29:43.359 --> 01:29:44.600
they are alive and moving.

2043
01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:46.920
They're moving. Well, what happens they'd already fallen over from

2044
01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:49.319
moving and and the reveal is great. He goes to

2045
01:29:49.399 --> 01:29:50.920
check this dog and when he lifts it up, the

2046
01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:53.159
other side is gone because it's been split in half. Yeah,

2047
01:29:53.279 --> 01:29:56.760
they're freaked out, obviously, And I love how the little touches,

2048
01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:59.439
like when they run past all of the pinned butterflies

2049
01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:02.319
are there, and there's this sound of a heart to

2050
01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:04.520
like kind of make it seem done, you.

2051
01:30:04.520 --> 01:30:06.239
Know, simply with a fan. That's the one thing I

2052
01:30:06.319 --> 01:30:07.800
loved that I picked up on. They just blew a

2053
01:30:07.880 --> 01:30:09.079
fan right at the right at them.

2054
01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:11.039
Makes sense, Yeah, I mean it would work, That would work.

2055
01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:14.039
So it's it's a great touch. So now we're realizing

2056
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:19.039
that basically anything that's dead, regardless of how dead it is,

2057
01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:22.000
because like if you're cutting half, you know, I mean,

2058
01:30:22.279 --> 01:30:23.920
I don't care how good a veterinarian you are.

2059
01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:26.479
So we hear the cadaver going crazy in the freezer,

2060
01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:28.760
and they're freaking out about that. And I mean basically

2061
01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:31.680
anywhere they look in this facility now is alive. Yeah,

2062
01:30:31.720 --> 01:30:34.039
anything that can be alive. I mean basically the only

2063
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:36.000
thing not moving is that skeleton because there's.

2064
01:30:35.880 --> 01:30:37.119
No meat yet, no meat.

2065
01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:40.640
So that's when we cut back to the cemetery. We uh,

2066
01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:43.640
we find spider and trash and chuck and Casey and

2067
01:30:43.680 --> 01:30:46.800
Scuys all having a good time, and Trash even asking

2068
01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:48.239
you know, have you ever thought about dying?

2069
01:30:49.239 --> 01:30:51.479
Well, she had earlier said something about death in the car,

2070
01:30:51.560 --> 01:30:53.439
and now she's saying like, do you ever fantasize about

2071
01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:54.279
being killed?

2072
01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:55.199
And he's like dying?

2073
01:30:55.840 --> 01:30:58.560
No, no, And then but it's great, she doesn't even

2074
01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:01.359
react no to his response no. So she just says like,

2075
01:31:01.479 --> 01:31:04.439
I imagine a bunch of old men pulling at me

2076
01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:06.960
and tearing and tearing at me and eating me alive.

2077
01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:10.880
And then she says like, but first they tear off

2078
01:31:10.920 --> 01:31:13.039
my clothes, and she just rips her rips her clothes off,

2079
01:31:13.479 --> 01:31:16.960
and I love the line. I'm certain that it was

2080
01:31:17.039 --> 01:31:20.680
Adyrd later, but there's a great line where you just

2081
01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:23.760
hear off camera somebody gets some light over here Trash

2082
01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:25.840
is taking off her clothes again.

2083
01:31:26.760 --> 01:31:28.760
And so then Trash goes to dance on the tombstone.

2084
01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:30.760
One of the most famous scenes of the movie with

2085
01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:33.399
the SSQ song Oh my God, I just blame on

2086
01:31:33.439 --> 01:31:36.520
the title make Love Till We Die, Thank you. Yeah,

2087
01:31:36.520 --> 01:31:38.600
I was actually listening to it earlier today, done by

2088
01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:42.079
Stacy Q. Oh yeah. But one of the most memorable

2089
01:31:42.079 --> 01:31:44.800
scenes of the movie. They're surrounding it. She's taking everything

2090
01:31:44.840 --> 01:31:48.079
off and just dancing on top of this. Uh bzz

2091
01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:50.279
not mausoleum, it's a crypt. It's a crypt. Yeah, thank you.

2092
01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:52.119
And she is a Barbie doll.

2093
01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:53.119
She has a Barbie doll.

2094
01:31:53.319 --> 01:31:57.119
There is a piece of plastic, yes or latex, covering

2095
01:31:57.279 --> 01:31:59.880
her goods. And there's a lot of funny stories of

2096
01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:00.319
out that.

2097
01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:02.079
There might be some of the in the trivia later

2098
01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:04.600
there better be one of the fust silliest things you

2099
01:32:04.680 --> 01:32:07.520
ever hear of. So by this point, Freddy and Frank

2100
01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:11.039
realize that that something is wrong. Obviously that everything's back alive,

2101
01:32:11.119 --> 01:32:13.159
they're not feeling so great, so they have to call Bert.

2102
01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:18.520
So we find out that Bert. Bert is just kind

2103
01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:21.880
of like what what? So he shows up, and the

2104
01:32:21.920 --> 01:32:23.720
big problem they're trying to deal with because they don't

2105
01:32:23.720 --> 01:32:27.000
realize that this is gonna be a giant problem like me,

2106
01:32:27.800 --> 01:32:30.640
is that the cadaver appears to be alive. Bert is

2107
01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:32.479
just I love how one of Burt's first things they

2108
01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:37.279
told you never to fuck with those canisters. So they

2109
01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:39.399
start making a plan. They're like, well, in the movie,

2110
01:32:39.399 --> 01:32:41.279
you had to destroy the brain, right, and I love

2111
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:43.760
this part because it's a great example of the movie's

2112
01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:47.920
comedic time, which is very good, because he says like,

2113
01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:49.720
we got to destroy the brain, and then he's and

2114
01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:51.560
then uh, Freddy's like, how do you how do you

2115
01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:53.960
crack open a brain? Or how do what do doctors

2116
01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:56.840
used to crack open a brain? He's like surgical drills?

2117
01:32:57.039 --> 01:32:58.800
And then Burt just walks with hair. Hold this frank

2118
01:32:59.319 --> 01:33:01.159
and he just hands him pick ass ye. But it's

2119
01:33:01.199 --> 01:33:04.359
like it's funny because he's answering the question physically. Yes,

2120
01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:06.760
he's like, surgic cool drill. Here, hold this frank.

2121
01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:09.640
He's like, So they get Freddy to go over unlock

2122
01:33:09.760 --> 01:33:11.840
the lock on the door, and so they pull it open.

2123
01:33:11.920 --> 01:33:14.319
The corpse comes out, comes at him and charges right

2124
01:33:14.479 --> 01:33:17.960
at uh Burt. Burt think, what's great about that is

2125
01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:20.560
Bert has gone to like the other side of the

2126
01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:23.520
damn room. Yes, he's making the workers do the work

2127
01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:25.720
and open it. And what happens the moment the door opens,

2128
01:33:25.760 --> 01:33:28.159
He runs only toward Burt, only toward Burt, tackles him

2129
01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:29.199
into a skeleton.

2130
01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:32.159
Toward anybody else anywhere near him, straight to him, knocks

2131
01:33:32.239 --> 01:33:33.960
him into a bunch of skeletons trying to kill him.

2132
01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:36.479
They have to wrestle this thing off. They hold it down,

2133
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:39.439
and finally Bert gets his hands dirty and he puts

2134
01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:43.079
the pick axe right through the head. And another great

2135
01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:45.319
moment in the movie because he hits him and it's

2136
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:46.079
still screaming, and.

2137
01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:48.199
The davers stuck to the ground screaming, and he's like,

2138
01:33:48.239 --> 01:33:49.680
you gotta hit the brain. That is the fucking brain.

2139
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:55.840
I hit. It's wonderful anytime. Klu Gulligher says, anything angry

2140
01:33:56.560 --> 01:33:57.119
is so fine.

2141
01:33:58.199 --> 01:34:00.479
So then they end up getting a saw sawing neck off,

2142
01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:02.920
which then frees the cadaver and goes chasing his body

2143
01:34:03.039 --> 01:34:04.880
just starts running around with the head still stuck to

2144
01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:08.079
the ground even more. And that's when we really realize

2145
01:34:08.399 --> 01:34:11.319
that we're not dealing with the zombies established in either

2146
01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:13.199
Living Dead or Dawn of the Dead, which had already

2147
01:34:13.199 --> 01:34:14.520
come out, because Day of the Dead actually came out

2148
01:34:14.520 --> 01:34:16.760
the same year, yeah as this one, actually I think,

2149
01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:21.039
in the same summer. But we're now it's become clear

2150
01:34:21.319 --> 01:34:23.920
these are not the same. They're almost impossible to kill,

2151
01:34:24.640 --> 01:34:26.840
possibly totally impossible to kill.

2152
01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:30.840
And what can be done? M hm. So now he

2153
01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:34.279
says I wonder Ernie Cockden Brunner or Coughtin Bruner, I know,

2154
01:34:34.840 --> 01:34:37.279
execondly say it and he says, he's the guy who

2155
01:34:37.279 --> 01:34:38.880
owns the crematorium across the street.

2156
01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:40.880
He usually works late. Let me see, Oh, yep, he's up.

2157
01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:42.359
Yeah, he looks at the window. He's like, his light's on.

2158
01:34:42.479 --> 01:34:44.640
He's in. He's like, uh, what do you think you

2159
01:34:44.680 --> 01:34:46.399
could do? He's like, we could use the crematorium and

2160
01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:48.119
like that's a great idea. Yeah. And then he's like,

2161
01:34:48.199 --> 01:34:49.680
do you think he'll go for it? And he's like, well,

2162
01:34:50.319 --> 01:34:52.000
we've been friends for almost twenty five years. He might

2163
01:34:52.079 --> 01:34:53.239
he might do it just out of friendship.

2164
01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:54.920
I don't know. We got to figure something out.

2165
01:34:55.119 --> 01:34:56.960
So he's like, uh, let's saw it up.

2166
01:34:57.279 --> 01:34:59.399
So they saw the corpse up. They're carrying it through

2167
01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:01.920
the cemetery over to the mortuary.

2168
01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:03.960
Body parts each an individual trash bag. Yep.

2169
01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:06.399
And we also see that the gang and the cemetery

2170
01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:08.800
sees them and and it's like, hey, is that Freddie? No,

2171
01:35:08.960 --> 01:35:10.279
I can't be Freddy. Why would he be going to

2172
01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:11.159
the mortues?

2173
01:35:11.359 --> 01:35:12.960
How do you know what's'lt Freddy? Because why would Freddy

2174
01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:15.600
be going into a mortuary. So we meet Ernie and

2175
01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:17.319
he is just smoking his pipe.

2176
01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:19.920
He's got his headphones on, listening to classical music and

2177
01:35:20.039 --> 01:35:22.640
he's in balming a corpse, just having his Friday night.

2178
01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:25.680
I know, I did not see that coming. Yeah, we'll

2179
01:35:25.680 --> 01:35:27.399
get to that too. There's this in one of the

2180
01:35:27.439 --> 01:35:29.880
many Easter eggs that's really interesting in this movie.

2181
01:35:30.399 --> 01:35:33.640
So Bert sneaks in and it startles him and he

2182
01:35:33.680 --> 01:35:36.479
actually pulls a luger on him and he's like oh,

2183
01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:38.319
He's like, Bert, you know, I'm sorry. And luger is

2184
01:35:38.319 --> 01:35:40.560
a pistol for those who don't know German German pistol.

2185
01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:42.279
So he pulls it on him and he's like, you know,

2186
01:35:42.439 --> 01:35:43.640
I don't sneak all on me on like that, and

2187
01:35:43.680 --> 01:35:45.119
he's like, hey, you want some coffee. They kind of

2188
01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:48.479
strike up conversation and slowly he's just like, I got

2189
01:35:48.560 --> 01:35:50.359
a favor to ask, and then he's like, my, my

2190
01:35:50.399 --> 01:35:51.159
guys are outside.

2191
01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:52.680
I love about when he says I got a favorite

2192
01:35:52.680 --> 01:35:53.960
to ask, but I need a question. He's like, you

2193
01:35:54.039 --> 01:35:55.600
know you can count on me, Burt. Yeah, like, don't

2194
01:35:55.600 --> 01:35:59.279
worry about it. Also love that it's Bert and Ernie,

2195
01:35:59.359 --> 01:36:01.520
Burt and Ernie but he says, like, you know, I

2196
01:36:01.600 --> 01:36:03.199
need help. He's like, of course, what's up? And he's

2197
01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:04.279
like I got my man out. He's like, oh no,

2198
01:36:04.359 --> 01:36:07.640
that's it, just walking into this mortuary.

2199
01:36:07.880 --> 01:36:10.159
So he lies and says they have rabbit weasels, and

2200
01:36:10.279 --> 01:36:12.119
he's not really going for it.

2201
01:36:12.239 --> 01:36:15.159
Another moment forever though, he just says, what's in the bag?

2202
01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:18.960
He goes rabbid weasels, like he just came up with it,

2203
01:36:20.279 --> 01:36:22.279
like like like maybe in the back of the body's

2204
01:36:22.279 --> 01:36:24.479
like maybe he won't even ask what's in the back. Yeah,

2205
01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:26.840
of course he's gonna ask what's in the bag.

2206
01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:30.880
So eventually they get him to look in the bag

2207
01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:32.960
because they dump out the severed arm of the cadaver

2208
01:36:33.079 --> 01:36:35.039
right in front of him, coming alive and grabbing his leg.

2209
01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:37.199
Yeah, and he has to it rips his pant leg,

2210
01:36:37.479 --> 01:36:39.399
cuts the pant leg off, and just kind of he's

2211
01:36:39.439 --> 01:36:41.359
in shock for a second. Oh yeah. So now they've

2212
01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:43.720
kind of smartened him up to what's going on. And

2213
01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:45.479
then because initially they were like we want to use

2214
01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:47.319
a creamatory, he's like, burn them alive. He's like, yeah,

2215
01:36:47.319 --> 01:36:50.039
that's why I thought. He's like that's just hideous, Like

2216
01:36:50.119 --> 01:36:52.159
we can let me take him out back and shoot him.

2217
01:36:52.319 --> 01:36:55.119
So meanwhile, while this is happening, Tina gets the idea

2218
01:36:55.159 --> 01:36:56.640
that she wants to go check on Freddy because it's

2219
01:36:56.640 --> 01:36:58.880
ten o'clock by this point, he's late, So she makes

2220
01:36:58.920 --> 01:37:02.199
her way over to the supply house and goes down

2221
01:37:02.239 --> 01:37:07.840
into the basement, where she finds the most memorable character

2222
01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:08.319
of the film.

2223
01:37:08.960 --> 01:37:10.760
I was actually gonna say, one of the most iconic

2224
01:37:11.119 --> 01:37:12.560
zombies of all time.

2225
01:37:12.720 --> 01:37:14.479
Yeah, No, you're right, you're right, known.

2226
01:37:14.359 --> 01:37:17.439
As the tar Man. Yes, and this is a zombie

2227
01:37:18.079 --> 01:37:21.279
that is appears to be covered in tar. Basically, he's

2228
01:37:21.319 --> 01:37:24.560
covered in this black goop because when the when the

2229
01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:27.600
canister first opened, we showed that the corpse kind of

2230
01:37:27.640 --> 01:37:30.399
started melting because it was being exposed to air for

2231
01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:32.760
the first time and god knows how long. Yeah, so

2232
01:37:33.119 --> 01:37:36.039
this thing tries to go after her, tries to kill her.

2233
01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:39.880
She runs up the stairs and trying to escape. It's

2234
01:37:40.319 --> 01:37:44.079
very very It's one of the scariest scenes in the film. Yeah,

2235
01:37:44.199 --> 01:37:46.640
is this woman facing down the tar Man and his

2236
01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:49.960
movements are almost as iconic as the maker.

2237
01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:52.000
Shout out to Alan Troutman, who is the man that

2238
01:37:52.039 --> 01:37:54.279
plays the Tar Man in this. I mean it's it

2239
01:37:54.479 --> 01:37:57.439
is one of those, like you said, iconic monsters, but

2240
01:37:57.560 --> 01:37:59.920
like it, it gets scarier no matter how many times

2241
01:37:59.960 --> 01:38:01.720
you've seen this, Like, this thing is terrifying, even though

2242
01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:03.680
it's literally just a thing of sludge with teeth.

2243
01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:06.319
Well, because its teeth and its eyes are white, yes,

2244
01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:07.800
and everything else is jet black.

2245
01:38:07.840 --> 01:38:09.800
And it also has a guttural voice that likes to

2246
01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:11.640
say more brains.

2247
01:38:13.319 --> 01:38:17.359
And they hired the actor you mentioned. He was a dancer, yeah,

2248
01:38:17.880 --> 01:38:20.279
and very very skinny yep, which was brilliant because they

2249
01:38:20.279 --> 01:38:22.720
could build up his body to make him look like

2250
01:38:22.840 --> 01:38:26.279
he's emaciated. Skeleton also did work with the Muppets. Oh,

2251
01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:26.840
I believe it.

2252
01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:30.840
Yeah. So Tina is chased out by Tarban Tarman is

2253
01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:33.199
then locked into the basement for the time being, or

2254
01:38:33.239 --> 01:38:36.000
at least for the time so she gets out, but

2255
01:38:36.079 --> 01:38:37.920
then back at the crematorium, they decide that they're going

2256
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:40.079
to go ahead and move forward with burning these and

2257
01:38:40.279 --> 01:38:43.039
he wants them to be completely gone. No ashes. The

2258
01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:45.079
heart is the hardest thing because it's just one giant

2259
01:38:46.199 --> 01:38:48.119
muffle muscle and everything. So he's just like, well, we'll

2260
01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:49.359
just turn the heat up real.

2261
01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:52.880
High, and I want to say, watching the movie now

2262
01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:58.239
as a man almost forty, Yeah, I really respect Bird

2263
01:38:58.279 --> 01:39:01.039
and Ernie's friendship element cause there's a part where he says, like,

2264
01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:03.279
you know, what do I get. He's like, what do

2265
01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:06.159
you want? He's like, that's a pretty big favor. He's like, well,

2266
01:39:06.640 --> 01:39:09.079
I owe you one may He's like, all right, okay.

2267
01:39:09.159 --> 01:39:12.520
So but as they they're talking about doing this bizarrely

2268
01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:14.039
heinous things, it's like, I don't want there to be

2269
01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:16.680
any evidence of this at all. He says like, well,

2270
01:39:16.960 --> 01:39:18.560
you know, there should be nothing but a little you know,

2271
01:39:18.760 --> 01:39:20.479
the heartsires thing about and he's like, well, we don't

2272
01:39:20.479 --> 01:39:22.279
want that. He's like, then I'll turn it up higher

2273
01:39:22.279 --> 01:39:23.479
and burn it up. He's like, they'll just be asked.

2274
01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:25.079
He's like, we don't want to as he's like, they'll

2275
01:39:25.119 --> 01:39:26.840
turn it up higher and burn up the ashes. So

2276
01:39:26.960 --> 01:39:30.239
he's like being a good friend in a really weird situation.

2277
01:39:30.439 --> 01:39:32.479
While this is going on, you've got poor Frank and

2278
01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:34.239
Freddie off to the side that are starting to feel

2279
01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:35.399
the effects of what have happened.

2280
01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:38.840
Yeah, they're getting paler and paler their eyes at Dark Circle.

2281
01:39:38.600 --> 01:39:40.960
And Frank actually makes a comment because he's looking at

2282
01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:44.119
the oven and he makes a comment of some favor, Yeah,

2283
01:39:44.159 --> 01:39:45.920
some favor I could I could run the damn thing.

2284
01:39:46.039 --> 01:39:47.279
Yeah, there's a lot of foreshadowing.

2285
01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:48.359
There's a lot of foreshadowing.

2286
01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:48.640
Yes.

2287
01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:51.600
One thing that's very clear about Returning to the Living

2288
01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:54.960
Debt is that the screenplay was solid. Yeah, and that's

2289
01:39:55.000 --> 01:39:58.560
Dan O'Bannon. Because Dan O'Bannon was a solid screenwriter. As

2290
01:39:58.640 --> 01:40:01.920
a director, I think that overall he was serviceable. I

2291
01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:04.960
think or Return of Living Dead rather, I think is

2292
01:40:05.520 --> 01:40:10.880
a phenomenal movie. His direction from a cinema cinema standpoint, yeah,

2293
01:40:11.119 --> 01:40:17.119
very simple, but his understanding of great characters, his understanding

2294
01:40:17.159 --> 01:40:20.479
of like placing the actors, the blocking is really great.

2295
01:40:20.479 --> 01:40:23.439
Because one thing I noticed about twenty years ago now

2296
01:40:23.720 --> 01:40:27.279
watching it one time was there's very little coverage. There's

2297
01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:30.600
very little close up shots. It's almost entirely done from

2298
01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:34.319
master shots, which are wider shots. But it'll while that

2299
01:40:34.479 --> 01:40:39.560
is kind of, you know, technically boring, it's not because

2300
01:40:39.600 --> 01:40:42.880
the actors are engrossing you. The dialogue is so snappy,

2301
01:40:43.159 --> 01:40:44.760
They're they're timing is great.

2302
01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:45.199
Yeah.

2303
01:40:45.359 --> 01:40:47.920
They it's almost like a stage play some of the

2304
01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:50.560
scenes because it's just everybody coming and going and coming

2305
01:40:50.600 --> 01:40:52.520
and going and saying their lives. Every scene leads into

2306
01:40:52.520 --> 01:40:54.560
the next scene. Oh yeah, Well, and that's the secret

2307
01:40:54.640 --> 01:40:58.359
to a great screenplay. Yeah, but also to being great editor,

2308
01:40:58.520 --> 01:41:01.000
because in post production and you gotta trim the fat.

2309
01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:03.479
And I've never heard and I could be wrong, but

2310
01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:05.720
I've never heard Dan O'Bannon bitch that they cut stuff

2311
01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:07.560
he didn't want out of it. There's never been a

2312
01:41:07.640 --> 01:41:10.439
director's cut. So I think Dan looked at the movie

2313
01:41:10.520 --> 01:41:12.560
very realistically and was like, no, it's got to move,

2314
01:41:12.600 --> 01:41:14.159
it's got to be interesting, it's got to keep the

2315
01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:19.920
audience's attention, and his humor is just is what makes

2316
01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:21.800
this movie stand the test of time. Yeah.

2317
01:41:21.840 --> 01:41:24.319
So Ernie eventually turns on the oven. They burn everything up.

2318
01:41:24.399 --> 01:41:26.000
We see a plume of smoke go into the sky.

2319
01:41:26.640 --> 01:41:29.159
That starts having some rainfall in the cemetery. Well, we

2320
01:41:29.359 --> 01:41:32.600
have the same theme play again, Yes, we do that

2321
01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:37.119
played when the gas first escaped. Oh excuse escape escaped.

2322
01:41:37.960 --> 01:41:39.680
I was trying not to cough into the microphaction.

2323
01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:43.119
There you go. But it goes up into the clouds.

2324
01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:46.359
A thunderstorm starts out of nowhere, and as the rain

2325
01:41:46.479 --> 01:41:49.680
is falling, we see the water go through the dirt

2326
01:41:50.239 --> 01:41:53.439
down to an old coffin and drip on the foot

2327
01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:57.680
of a corpse. It's so one of the big things

2328
01:41:57.760 --> 01:42:01.119
in cinema is show, don't tell. Whenever possible, you should

2329
01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:04.920
show and not tell. That is a phenomenal example of

2330
01:42:05.039 --> 01:42:06.039
show and don't tell.

2331
01:42:06.239 --> 01:42:09.680
Yeah, so naturally things the cemetery start coming alive, and

2332
01:42:10.119 --> 01:42:11.960
the gang by this point when it starts raining, run

2333
01:42:12.039 --> 01:42:14.399
back to Suicide's car. His car won't start, so they

2334
01:42:14.479 --> 01:42:17.479
decide to go and join Tina at the chemicals or

2335
01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:20.880
at the medical facility. They get there, she's still in

2336
01:42:20.920 --> 01:42:22.920
the basemin with Tarman because she tried to run up

2337
01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:25.399
the steps and fell, So they go down and save her,

2338
01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:28.880
and Suicide ends up getting it from Tarman. They eventually

2339
01:42:29.399 --> 01:42:31.760
run away, go back upstairs, and now they're safe for

2340
01:42:31.880 --> 01:42:32.399
the time being.

2341
01:42:32.479 --> 01:42:35.560
Well, and another thing worth mentioning of a massive difference

2342
01:42:35.560 --> 01:42:38.239
between this and most other zombie films. Yeah, especially the

2343
01:42:38.359 --> 01:42:42.279
Romero movies. These zombies are literally raising from the grave. Yes,

2344
01:42:42.439 --> 01:42:46.560
they're in advanced levels of decomposition, oh my, And that

2345
01:42:47.079 --> 01:42:52.520
really adds a lot to the horror and the nightmarishness

2346
01:42:52.920 --> 01:42:53.840
and the bizarreness.

2347
01:42:54.279 --> 01:42:56.640
So the group has not seen the zombies by this point.

2348
01:42:56.680 --> 01:42:59.319
They only know about Tarman, so they are in the facility.

2349
01:42:59.359 --> 01:43:01.279
They've got him to and care of. Meanwhile, back at

2350
01:43:01.319 --> 01:43:04.800
the mortuary, everything's been burned. They're you know, the they're

2351
01:43:04.840 --> 01:43:07.239
home free. Bert's so happy, he's shaking Ernie's hand. He's like,

2352
01:43:07.239 --> 01:43:09.039
you know, I owe you one. He's like, all right, guys,

2353
01:43:09.119 --> 01:43:11.079
let's go back to the facility. And that's when Frank

2354
01:43:11.159 --> 01:43:13.800
and Freddie are just like, we're really sick. We're really sick.

2355
01:43:13.960 --> 01:43:15.520
Like my head feels like it's gonna explode. I can

2356
01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:17.039
feel like I could puke at any second. And by

2357
01:43:17.079 --> 01:43:18.680
this point they're lifeless.

2358
01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:21.239
Yeah, they have no color in their skin, yeah at all.

2359
01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:24.439
So Ernie calls for an ambulance. The ambulance comes over.

2360
01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:27.159
They can't get any vitals on them, they can't get

2361
01:43:27.239 --> 01:43:28.880
any any pulse.

2362
01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:31.600
Well and one of the This is another great subtle

2363
01:43:31.680 --> 01:43:35.640
moment too. Obviously, Bert wants to protect his business. That's

2364
01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:37.640
why he's doing this. He doesn't want the police or

2365
01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:41.439
the army showing up and tearing his business apart. Ernie's

2366
01:43:41.479 --> 01:43:43.640
the same way. He doesn't want his business to be

2367
01:43:43.920 --> 01:43:46.439
hurt by this, but he is a good friend to Bert.

2368
01:43:46.640 --> 01:43:46.880
Yeah.

2369
01:43:47.399 --> 01:43:49.800
So there's a great moment when Ernie they both agree

2370
01:43:49.800 --> 01:43:51.039
after looking at the guys, are like, we.

2371
01:43:51.079 --> 01:43:52.600
Got a call. He's got to call the ambulance. Yeah.

2372
01:43:52.600 --> 01:43:54.039
Well when he calls him, the look at his pager

2373
01:43:54.119 --> 01:43:59.800
goes where he says his funeral home. He yeah, around back, around, back, memorial. Yeah.

2374
01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:01.760
Like as he's saying that, you could see him going like,

2375
01:44:01.880 --> 01:44:03.239
I hope this doesn't bring me a bunch of.

2376
01:44:03.279 --> 01:44:06.039
Trouble, and he goes poisoned. I don't know what, but

2377
01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:08.600
two men poisoned, men poisoned well, and he doesn't know

2378
01:44:08.680 --> 01:44:12.560
who exactly. So yeah, but I always like that moment

2379
01:44:12.600 --> 01:44:14.159
because there's that moment where they're both like, all right,

2380
01:44:14.199 --> 01:44:15.479
we tried to keep a lid on this, but these

2381
01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:16.479
guys are really sick.

2382
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:16.760
Yeah.

2383
01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:19.560
So eventually the paramedics arrive and they indicate that like

2384
01:44:19.840 --> 01:44:21.880
they don't have heart beats, they don't have pulses, their

2385
01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:24.439
temperatures are at their body temperatures are room temperature at

2386
01:44:24.479 --> 01:44:25.520
seventy each.

2387
01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:29.159
And their tongues are a shade of orange that generally

2388
01:44:29.199 --> 01:44:31.760
you only get from drinking orange.

2389
01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:34.479
Julia, Yes, so by this point, they're like, you know,

2390
01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:36.840
you guys are no longer alive, like, but you're still conscious,

2391
01:44:36.880 --> 01:44:38.399
So like this is really strange, Like.

2392
01:44:38.640 --> 01:44:41.199
You're not dead, Like, yeah, that's why not dead. He's like,

2393
01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:43.600
obviously you're not dead because you're responding to us, but

2394
01:44:43.800 --> 01:44:46.279
something is making you appear to be dead.

2395
01:44:46.399 --> 01:44:49.880
Yeah. So by this point, the other group have decided

2396
01:44:49.920 --> 01:44:52.399
that the medical facility place is not safe because of Tarman.

2397
01:44:52.439 --> 01:44:54.720
They're running back into the cemetery, and now they're running

2398
01:44:54.720 --> 01:44:57.760
into all the new friends, including Trash, who falls into

2399
01:44:57.800 --> 01:45:01.199
a mud puddle and is submerged by the the trioxin.

2400
01:45:00.720 --> 01:45:02.760
And the zombies at the same time because the rain

2401
01:45:02.880 --> 01:45:04.000
is carrying the chemical.

2402
01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:04.399
Yeah.

2403
01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:07.239
And I also want to mention a great thing about

2404
01:45:07.479 --> 01:45:11.960
Freddy and uh why Frank, thank you.

2405
01:45:12.239 --> 01:45:12.600
It's good.

2406
01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:15.520
One of the big things about them that I love

2407
01:45:15.680 --> 01:45:18.840
is they didn't go with the bitten trope. No, they

2408
01:45:18.920 --> 01:45:20.960
are exposed, but we still get that kind of like

2409
01:45:21.079 --> 01:45:23.600
we know something low. We know that they're and they

2410
01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:27.439
were exposed heavily heavy chemical right compared to everybody else.

2411
01:45:27.760 --> 01:45:29.760
But there is also this understanding when you watch the

2412
01:45:29.840 --> 01:45:33.840
movie a few times that probably everybody is eventually going

2413
01:45:33.920 --> 01:45:36.479
to turn because they were all exposed to that rain.

2414
01:45:37.399 --> 01:45:40.479
Yeah. So the paramedics go back out to their ambulance

2415
01:45:40.880 --> 01:45:43.159
and that is when they are ambushed by zombies and

2416
01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:47.119
Eden and How and How and then dispatch comes over

2417
01:45:47.199 --> 01:45:48.920
and they're just like, you know, hey, you know, is

2418
01:45:48.920 --> 01:45:49.760
everything okay over there?

2419
01:45:49.800 --> 01:45:54.600
And Dispatch send more paramedics. The zombie says, send more paramedics.

2420
01:45:54.720 --> 01:45:57.680
And I love that too because again, iconic moment. Yeah,

2421
01:45:57.760 --> 01:46:01.000
but it also establishes so these zombies have Yeah, they

2422
01:46:01.039 --> 01:46:02.760
have the ability to speak, at least some of them.

2423
01:46:02.760 --> 01:46:05.640
I mean we saw the Tarman speak, but he was rudimentary. Yeah,

2424
01:46:05.680 --> 01:46:09.760
he just wants brains. Yeah, this guy, this dead zombie

2425
01:46:09.840 --> 01:46:12.760
corpse guy, knows to pick up the radio, turn it

2426
01:46:12.840 --> 01:46:15.279
on and say send more paramedic yep. And later on

2427
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:17.159
when there's police, send more police.

2428
01:46:17.239 --> 01:46:19.479
Yeah, some more cops. So by this point, the group

2429
01:46:19.520 --> 01:46:21.840
has made it into the mortuary, which alerts Ernie because

2430
01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:23.079
he's just like, what the hell is going on? So

2431
01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:25.279
he goes out there, ready and armed to shoot, sees

2432
01:46:25.279 --> 01:46:27.039
that it's the kids, lets them in and that's when

2433
01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:28.560
they're like, there's hundreds of them.

2434
01:46:29.199 --> 01:46:30.760
Are you crazy? Are you on PCP?

2435
01:46:31.039 --> 01:46:31.239
Yeah.

2436
01:46:31.640 --> 01:46:36.159
Well, and and in defense of an indefensible man like Ernie,

2437
01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:39.680
which we'll get to. Yeah, they do. They're a bunch

2438
01:46:39.720 --> 01:46:43.199
of hoodlums. Yeah, so it does look like they're causing trouble. Yeah,

2439
01:46:43.199 --> 01:46:45.720
but they're screaming like we're going to die. So he's like,

2440
01:46:46.359 --> 01:46:48.039
he lets him in, but but he has his gun

2441
01:46:48.079 --> 01:46:50.000
out and he's saying, are you crazy? Are you on PCCP.

2442
01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:53.560
So by this point they're barricading themselves in the mortuary

2443
01:46:53.640 --> 01:46:56.279
because now everything is surrounding them in this whole thing.

2444
01:46:56.399 --> 01:46:59.439
Scuzz ends up getting killed by this half torsoed zombie

2445
01:47:00.239 --> 01:47:03.119
bites into his head, sprays blood everywhere, and then they're

2446
01:47:03.159 --> 01:47:05.279
boarding up the windows and by this point they've also

2447
01:47:05.359 --> 01:47:07.960
poured that corpse in which Ernie takes a stab at

2448
01:47:08.039 --> 01:47:08.960
and is like holding two.

2449
01:47:09.199 --> 01:47:11.560
Well, it's actually kind of brilliant because what Ernie does,

2450
01:47:11.720 --> 01:47:13.479
he takes the stick and he sticks it right between

2451
01:47:13.520 --> 01:47:16.199
her rib cage onto her spine. Yeah, knowing that that

2452
01:47:16.319 --> 01:47:18.039
means no matter what she does, she can't move because

2453
01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:21.159
he's got a point of perfect balance.

2454
01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:23.159
And if you haven't seen the movie, this corpse is

2455
01:47:23.239 --> 01:47:26.319
so it's like a skeleton with little skin left and

2456
01:47:26.439 --> 01:47:27.760
it is literally cut at the spine.

2457
01:47:27.880 --> 01:47:28.760
Well what they pulled it in?

2458
01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:30.800
I think it just broke it broke it half yeah, yeah, yeah,

2459
01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:33.119
So that's when they decide that they can try and

2460
01:47:33.199 --> 01:47:36.720
learn something from it. They tie the creature to the table.

2461
01:47:36.800 --> 01:47:42.560
It's Ernie's idea, I interrogate it, yeah, because Ernie probably

2462
01:47:42.640 --> 01:47:44.520
has a very interesting pass he does.

2463
01:47:45.199 --> 01:47:48.840
So that is when the corpse explains that reanimated corpses

2464
01:47:48.880 --> 01:47:51.880
can feel themselves rotting and the only thing that stops

2465
01:47:51.960 --> 01:47:55.319
it is brains. Eating brains numbs the pain and lets

2466
01:47:55.399 --> 01:47:57.399
them feel alive for just a little bit.

2467
01:47:57.560 --> 01:48:00.199
And while that is not expanded on in part two

2468
01:48:00.239 --> 01:48:02.840
because part two is not really even the same universe. Yeah,

2469
01:48:02.920 --> 01:48:05.199
and part three, they actually go into this idea that

2470
01:48:05.279 --> 01:48:11.039
they crave brains because they get electro magnet response. Basically,

2471
01:48:11.119 --> 01:48:13.159
they like, well that's a whole other thing about making

2472
01:48:13.720 --> 01:48:17.039
but that it's the synapses. Eating the synapses, it like

2473
01:48:17.720 --> 01:48:21.239
makes their pain receptors reduce and it also powers them

2474
01:48:21.479 --> 01:48:24.479
to an extent. And granted two or three is not

2475
01:48:24.640 --> 01:48:27.239
exactly canon either. There's a lot of differences there too,

2476
01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:33.079
but man, uh, the scene where they interrogate the zombie

2477
01:48:33.399 --> 01:48:36.199
another moment where it's like, holy crap, because getting to

2478
01:48:36.399 --> 01:48:40.960
know what the zombie's motivation is yeah, is crazy, yes

2479
01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:42.279
and great.

2480
01:48:42.560 --> 01:48:44.680
So by this point we cut back to the cemetery

2481
01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:48.479
and we see reanimated trash rise from the grave and.

2482
01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:51.119
We hear make Love Till You Die again as she

2483
01:48:51.399 --> 01:48:53.840
stands up. We don't see her face now, just see

2484
01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:57.239
her sexy about eight yep. And she stands up, wanders

2485
01:48:57.279 --> 01:48:59.079
outside of the cemetery end of the street where a

2486
01:48:59.119 --> 01:49:01.960
homeless man is who completely sets eyes on her, but

2487
01:49:02.079 --> 01:49:04.880
she runs right at him and feasts yes, and we

2488
01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:09.920
notice that her jaw yes is unhinged, like it's gigantic,

2489
01:49:10.119 --> 01:49:12.560
so ridiculous, eight times the size of a normal job.

2490
01:49:12.600 --> 01:49:15.119
So Frank and Freddy still showing signs of becoming zombies.

2491
01:49:15.159 --> 01:49:17.560
By this point, Tina is at Freddie's side, and that's

2492
01:49:17.600 --> 01:49:20.159
when they are locked in the chapel accompanied by Tina,

2493
01:49:20.279 --> 01:49:22.359
and she refuses to abandon Freddy. She's just like, no,

2494
01:49:22.439 --> 01:49:23.840
I'm not I'm going to stay with them, because by

2495
01:49:23.880 --> 01:49:26.399
this point they're like this isn't safe, like they're they're

2496
01:49:26.479 --> 01:49:27.680
showing signs.

2497
01:49:27.359 --> 01:49:28.800
And they're and they're even trying to miss like we're

2498
01:49:28.840 --> 01:49:30.279
not gonna kill them, We're not gonna hurt them. We

2499
01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:31.560
just want to put them somewhere so we don't have

2500
01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:33.359
to worry about that. Well, we can figure out how

2501
01:49:33.359 --> 01:49:34.640
to get the hell out of Harriet.

2502
01:49:34.399 --> 01:49:36.760
So she refuses to leave it. Freddie then is like,

2503
01:49:36.840 --> 01:49:38.439
you know, he's he's talking to her a little bit,

2504
01:49:38.439 --> 01:49:40.239
and then slowly he just starts to transform and has

2505
01:49:40.319 --> 01:49:42.039
the most chilling line where he's just like, you know,

2506
01:49:42.119 --> 01:49:45.359
I feel like I can smell you're break.

2507
01:49:45.800 --> 01:49:47.760
And at this point they're locked in the chapel. Yes,

2508
01:49:48.720 --> 01:49:51.760
Freddie Frank and his girlfriend are locked in the chapel.

2509
01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:54.239
So now he's chasing after she's screaming, trying to get away.

2510
01:49:54.439 --> 01:49:56.640
Like we said, the movie starts to book it really, Yeah,

2511
01:49:57.079 --> 01:49:59.520
and it's all about how things happen more than what

2512
01:49:59.640 --> 01:50:01.840
for the moment most part. Yeah, but yeah, he wants

2513
01:50:01.920 --> 01:50:03.600
to eat her brains and it's.

2514
01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:06.239
Chasing her through the chapel and all. By this point too,

2515
01:50:06.279 --> 01:50:08.680
we've had two cops show up and they get completely

2516
01:50:08.760 --> 01:50:09.720
taken over by the zombie.

2517
01:50:09.760 --> 01:50:11.960
And there's a great line where Ernie sees it happen. Yeah,

2518
01:50:12.239 --> 01:50:15.000
this place is a black hole. Yeah, everyone that comes

2519
01:50:15.039 --> 01:50:16.880
in gets swallowed up.

2520
01:50:17.039 --> 01:50:19.920
And I think also by this point Ernie has done

2521
01:50:19.920 --> 01:50:21.920
the barricade. That's hurt his foot. His foot is broken.

2522
01:50:22.039 --> 01:50:24.680
Yeah, he's broken his foot so he can't run for it. Yeah,

2523
01:50:24.720 --> 01:50:27.039
because their new plan is to steal the cop car.

2524
01:50:27.319 --> 01:50:29.079
When they figure out that the keys aren't just in

2525
01:50:29.159 --> 01:50:31.359
the ignition, the engine is still running yep, so they're

2526
01:50:31.359 --> 01:50:34.000
gonna go for it, but Ernie can't go and it's

2527
01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:35.439
got the broken foot. And I love it when they

2528
01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:37.359
decide they're going to go for the car because Ernie

2529
01:50:37.399 --> 01:50:40.319
says says uh, says Burt, and he's like yeah, He's like,

2530
01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:42.119
you know that favor you owe me. He's like yeah, man,

2531
01:50:42.199 --> 01:50:44.800
he's like watch your ass out there. Yeah.

2532
01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:48.239
So Spider and Burt get into the car. They are

2533
01:50:48.640 --> 01:50:50.920
mobbed by zombies at first and can't really get anywhere

2534
01:50:50.960 --> 01:50:52.840
near so they decide to break out in the street.

2535
01:50:52.840 --> 01:50:55.000
They're gonna go and try and call somebody, And as

2536
01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:57.640
they get out into the street, another zombie horde is

2537
01:50:57.680 --> 01:50:59.119
now completely out there.

2538
01:50:59.079 --> 01:51:01.840
And real quick. We would be remiss to not mention.

2539
01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:06.680
Spider is played by Miguel Nunez Yes, who also famous

2540
01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:10.560
for Friday thirteenth Part five, Goddamn in Chilada. Great actor.

2541
01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:13.159
He's been in a ton of movies and but this

2542
01:51:13.359 --> 01:51:15.640
was really what kind of started his career. He tells

2543
01:51:15.680 --> 01:51:18.239
a great story about how he was homeless when they

2544
01:51:18.359 --> 01:51:20.399
cast him and he was debating giving up on his dream.

2545
01:51:20.800 --> 01:51:23.840
I love that stuff. But Miguel is so underrated in

2546
01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:25.560
so many ways as an actor.

2547
01:51:25.600 --> 01:51:26.920
Well, he has one of my one of my favorite

2548
01:51:26.920 --> 01:51:28.960
scenes when him and Ernie is He's freaking out at

2549
01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:31.119
this point, like you know, they they've gotten back in

2550
01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:32.319
it didn't go well.

2551
01:51:33.800 --> 01:51:34.279
And everything.

2552
01:51:34.319 --> 01:51:36.359
So Ernie hits him on one side and then comes

2553
01:51:36.399 --> 01:51:37.680
back again and hits him on the other.

2554
01:51:37.880 --> 01:51:39.760
Him the second Yeah, with his other hand when his

2555
01:51:39.840 --> 01:51:41.479
face turns, And that was what I was getting at,

2556
01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:45.359
is him and Ernie's dynamic is funny.

2557
01:51:45.439 --> 01:51:48.279
But him and Bert oh so good. He hates Burt

2558
01:51:48.399 --> 01:51:50.680
Yeah for no apparent reason, even calls him a stupid

2559
01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:51.239
honkey when.

2560
01:51:53.039 --> 01:51:55.439
Yeah, it's so good. Yeah, because they realize that they

2561
01:51:55.479 --> 01:51:59.279
cannot drive through this giant group of corpses. They also

2562
01:51:59.359 --> 01:52:02.119
realized that they couldn't. Originally, their plan was to pull

2563
01:52:02.159 --> 01:52:04.800
the car right up to the exit of the mortuary, Yeah,

2564
01:52:04.840 --> 01:52:07.319
and get them in no chance. The zombies are just

2565
01:52:07.399 --> 01:52:07.800
all over.

2566
01:52:08.039 --> 01:52:10.720
So by this point Ernie has blinded Freddy by throwing

2567
01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:13.199
acid into his eyes. So Freddy has become even more

2568
01:52:14.039 --> 01:52:16.319
heinous looking because his eyes have melted. He just has

2569
01:52:16.399 --> 01:52:17.680
red where his sockets are well.

2570
01:52:17.720 --> 01:52:20.920
In another great moment, because Ernie's trying to figure out

2571
01:52:20.960 --> 01:52:22.920
how to survive this, at one place, says, what about

2572
01:52:22.960 --> 01:52:26.359
this sulfuric acid. It'll pretty much dissolve anything. And they're like,

2573
01:52:26.520 --> 01:52:29.399
but you only have one jar of it, and he's like, yep, yep,

2574
01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:32.079
Like we don't have enough to do anything. Yes, he's

2575
01:52:32.119 --> 01:52:32.560
just trying.

2576
01:52:32.600 --> 01:52:35.960
He's trying to do so all this chaos is going on.

2577
01:52:36.119 --> 01:52:39.600
We then cut back to the crematorium where Frank has

2578
01:52:39.640 --> 01:52:43.199
decided that he's going to end it himself, and he

2579
01:52:43.520 --> 01:52:45.520
made the comment earlier that he can run the damn thing,

2580
01:52:46.279 --> 01:52:48.920
pulls out the tray in the oven, puts his takes

2581
01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:51.079
his wedding ring off and kisses it, places it on

2582
01:52:51.279 --> 01:52:54.840
the button, climbs inside, pulls the door shut or pushes

2583
01:52:54.880 --> 01:52:56.359
the button in the door goes shut, and he just

2584
01:52:56.520 --> 01:52:57.399
eliminates himself.

2585
01:52:57.600 --> 01:53:02.479
He cremates himself. Yeah, and unfortunately he was not aware

2586
01:53:03.039 --> 01:53:05.960
that that is what spread the trioxy.

2587
01:53:06.199 --> 01:53:06.399
Yep.

2588
01:53:06.800 --> 01:53:10.319
So it's extra. It's extra sad because he's also like

2589
01:53:10.399 --> 01:53:13.319
kind of dooming everybody. Extra, but it's also a really

2590
01:53:13.359 --> 01:53:15.319
sweet moment because he sees what happens to Freddy and

2591
01:53:15.359 --> 01:53:16.079
he doesn't want that to happen.

2592
01:53:16.119 --> 01:53:17.479
No, he doesn't want that to happen all and then

2593
01:53:17.680 --> 01:53:20.000
even more so, by this point, zombie forces have now

2594
01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:23.199
completely surrounded the mortuary, led by Trash, and that prompts

2595
01:53:23.319 --> 01:53:25.760
Ernie and Tina to hide into an attic, being chased

2596
01:53:25.760 --> 01:53:28.159
by Freddie. They get up a ladder, knock the ladder

2597
01:53:28.199 --> 01:53:29.800
down and climbing to the attic and shut the door.

2598
01:53:30.079 --> 01:53:31.680
And by this point Freddie is like, I know you're

2599
01:53:31.760 --> 01:53:34.119
up there. I can smell your brains And one of

2600
01:53:34.199 --> 01:53:36.199
my favorite things that you pointed out to me several

2601
01:53:36.239 --> 01:53:39.520
watches back, Ernie has his luger with him, yes, yes,

2602
01:53:39.680 --> 01:53:41.920
And he has Tina and he's got his arm around

2603
01:53:41.920 --> 01:53:44.760
her protecting her, and she's holding onto him. And as

2604
01:53:44.840 --> 01:53:46.920
he's just banging on this door. As he's banging on

2605
01:53:46.960 --> 01:53:48.439
the door, we just see Ernie take out the gun

2606
01:53:48.479 --> 01:53:50.880
and he is getting ready to shoot her and then

2607
01:53:50.920 --> 01:53:51.640
shoot himself.

2608
01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:55.640
Yeah, which happens to be a methodology you're taught in

2609
01:53:55.760 --> 01:54:02.720
a certain World War two millet Terry government organization.

2610
01:54:03.119 --> 01:54:05.359
Yeah yeah, that yeah.

2611
01:54:05.560 --> 01:54:05.600
That.

2612
01:54:06.399 --> 01:54:08.920
So Burton Spider managed to get back inside the warehouse.

2613
01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:11.199
They find Casey and Chuck there, and that is when

2614
01:54:11.239 --> 01:54:14.720
they also incapacitate the basement zombie a starman.

2615
01:54:14.800 --> 01:54:16.640
At this point they knock his head off, knock his

2616
01:54:16.720 --> 01:54:19.520
head right, and then just go for it because at

2617
01:54:19.600 --> 01:54:20.640
least it's can't see.

2618
01:54:20.840 --> 01:54:22.720
So he wants to get down to the triox on barrows.

2619
01:54:22.760 --> 01:54:24.479
They want to see what they can do a phone, Yes,

2620
01:54:24.560 --> 01:54:26.640
and there's a phone down there because they're the other

2621
01:54:26.680 --> 01:54:28.359
phone was in the office and they weren't going in there.

2622
01:54:28.840 --> 01:54:30.960
So that is when he makes a call out to

2623
01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:32.760
the police and he's like, you know, hey, we're trapped

2624
01:54:32.760 --> 01:54:34.600
inside here. Because by this point they've had a helicopter

2625
01:54:34.720 --> 01:54:36.399
come in. They're like, you know, get to this part

2626
01:54:36.439 --> 01:54:38.199
of the line if you want to surrender, otherwise like

2627
01:54:38.279 --> 01:54:40.960
you are in firing grounds. So he calls the cops

2628
01:54:41.079 --> 01:54:43.119
and he's like, you know, well, what happened. He's like, oh,

2629
01:54:43.359 --> 01:54:45.399
it's a lot. And then by this point Trash and

2630
01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:47.920
her army just descend on the police even more.

2631
01:54:48.119 --> 01:54:50.960
I do love that instead of clue Gulligher saying like

2632
01:54:51.319 --> 01:54:54.079
the dead or rising or anything, which is a pet peeve,

2633
01:54:54.600 --> 01:54:56.199
like when cops don't believe you because you tell him

2634
01:54:56.199 --> 01:54:58.560
exactly's on, he doesn't say. He says, they're stark, raven mad.

2635
01:54:58.680 --> 01:55:01.039
They'll attack you, they'll kill you on the It's like Raby,

2636
01:55:01.039 --> 01:55:04.239
he's only faster. Like that's at least a cop would

2637
01:55:04.279 --> 01:55:06.800
believe you if they could have heard him over the

2638
01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:09.680
sound of the zombie Horde taking over the cops.

2639
01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:13.399
Yeah, so cops are over run. Bert then decides to

2640
01:55:13.399 --> 01:55:15.720
call the number on the military barrels and we see

2641
01:55:15.760 --> 01:55:17.720
that they're connecting with everybody. There's a guy that he

2642
01:55:17.880 --> 01:55:19.880
connects to and the guy he's taking down the notes.

2643
01:55:19.880 --> 01:55:21.800
You know, how long is the infection gone? When did

2644
01:55:21.840 --> 01:55:22.760
this start? All this stuff?

2645
01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:24.800
And one thing we skipped over because there's so much

2646
01:55:24.840 --> 01:55:27.760
to get to, is that we open with one of

2647
01:55:27.800 --> 01:55:29.920
the first things we see as this military guy whose

2648
01:55:30.119 --> 01:55:33.680
entire job is to be reachable to find out what

2649
01:55:33.800 --> 01:55:37.359
happened to the barrels, and that's when we find out

2650
01:55:37.439 --> 01:55:40.439
that there's a contingency plan. They were prepared for this

2651
01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:44.399
to happen. And I love that Miguel Nunez's character goes,

2652
01:55:44.479 --> 01:55:49.159
what is this plan? Because he is the last of

2653
01:55:49.319 --> 01:55:53.359
the super anti authority punks yep, So he's like, what

2654
01:55:53.520 --> 01:55:56.159
is his plan? So then we find out that the

2655
01:55:56.760 --> 01:55:58.920
military guy calls and he says, the eggs we found

2656
01:55:58.920 --> 01:56:02.199
the Easter egg have been found. Unfortunately, sorry, the eggs

2657
01:56:02.239 --> 01:56:04.279
have hatched. And then he tells him what to do.

2658
01:56:04.680 --> 01:56:07.640
So now we smash cut. It's so ridiculous. It's so ridiculous.

2659
01:56:07.760 --> 01:56:10.760
Smash cut to a call coming in to a young

2660
01:56:10.880 --> 01:56:14.560
man sitting in a nuclear launch site. Yes he is.

2661
01:56:15.680 --> 01:56:17.680
He and I love his reaction to because if you

2662
01:56:17.840 --> 01:56:20.159
if you look at the background, the set he's in,

2663
01:56:20.840 --> 01:56:23.279
he's reading a comic book. He has a cup of coffee.

2664
01:56:23.600 --> 01:56:25.920
It's first thing in the morning. Yeah, and when the

2665
01:56:25.960 --> 01:56:29.000
phone rings, he's very like, good morning. It's nice to hear.

2666
01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:32.159
Good morning to you too, sir. Okay, Archimede's got he's

2667
01:56:32.199 --> 01:56:34.479
like taking on the code. He's taking on a nuclear launch.

2668
01:56:34.520 --> 01:56:35.119
Cut he is.

2669
01:56:35.640 --> 01:56:38.720
And one thing I want to mention is what would

2670
01:56:38.760 --> 01:56:40.560
be going through I know that this is a comedy

2671
01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:43.079
ish horror movie. I don't consider this a straight horror comedy.

2672
01:56:43.119 --> 01:56:47.279
But it's a comedy horror movie, and he's literally sitting

2673
01:56:47.319 --> 01:56:50.000
in a bunker being told like, you're going to launch

2674
01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:52.520
at these coordinates. I think it was like one hundred

2675
01:56:52.520 --> 01:56:55.479
and seventy five miles from you, which means that he's

2676
01:56:55.600 --> 01:56:58.640
literally getting told you're going to launch a nuclear warhead

2677
01:56:58.840 --> 01:57:00.800
onto Americans soil. Yep.

2678
01:57:02.479 --> 01:57:05.239
So they go through the process and that is when

2679
01:57:05.439 --> 01:57:07.800
we see the nuke loaded. We see it shot off,

2680
01:57:07.920 --> 01:57:10.760
and we even see our characters hear it shot off, because.

2681
01:57:10.479 --> 01:57:14.039
It's well, yeah, we literally get the cartoon.

2682
01:57:15.920 --> 01:57:18.079
And Bert's like, do you hear that boom?

2683
01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:20.520
Well, and but the way they do it too, he

2684
01:57:20.640 --> 01:57:23.159
says like, do you hear something? And then like Freddy

2685
01:57:23.239 --> 01:57:25.960
bust busts, the freeze frames and then stream on all

2686
01:57:25.960 --> 01:57:28.479
the zombies getting ready to go into the looking up

2687
01:57:28.520 --> 01:57:30.199
in the sky. I love that, Yeah, because I guess

2688
01:57:30.199 --> 01:57:31.319
they noticed the sound.

2689
01:57:32.039 --> 01:57:34.800
So everything freeze frames and then we see the blast

2690
01:57:34.880 --> 01:57:37.159
and then we see the shot of Louisville and then

2691
01:57:37.399 --> 01:57:38.680
just the wave comes through it.

2692
01:57:38.840 --> 01:57:42.159
We see a mushroom cloud, yeah, and then the wave,

2693
01:57:42.239 --> 01:57:45.880
the shockwave just ripping apart the roofs of the buildings.

2694
01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:48.199
Killing everybody, killing Bert, killing all the survivors. And in

2695
01:57:48.279 --> 01:57:50.560
the wake of the nuclear strike on Louisville, Colonel Glover

2696
01:57:50.720 --> 01:57:53.279
is heard telling his commanding officer that everything went as

2697
01:57:53.359 --> 01:57:56.239
planned and that the results could not be more positive.

2698
01:57:56.640 --> 01:57:59.359
Only a small area was destroyed, he says, and casualties

2699
01:57:59.399 --> 01:58:02.760
are limited. As he speaks, the toxic rainfalls once more,

2700
01:58:03.199 --> 01:58:05.439
and zombies are heard screaming, and he.

2701
01:58:05.520 --> 01:58:07.720
Says, the only thing unusual is the rain, but that

2702
01:58:07.800 --> 01:58:10.399
should work to our darvis. It puts out the fires, yep,

2703
01:58:10.479 --> 01:58:12.800
it washes everything away. And then he even says, and yes,

2704
01:58:12.840 --> 01:58:15.159
I know the President is going to be in Louisville tomorrow.

2705
01:58:15.279 --> 01:58:15.439
Yeah.

2706
01:58:15.840 --> 01:58:18.760
One thing I always wondered about this movie, by the way,

2707
01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:20.439
I mean granted, like I said, you know, we never

2708
01:58:20.520 --> 01:58:23.720
get like a real sequel that like expands the cannon

2709
01:58:23.800 --> 01:58:26.800
of the first movie. But what was the what would

2710
01:58:26.800 --> 01:58:28.920
be the cover story the military would have for why

2711
01:58:29.039 --> 01:58:32.159
they bombed Louisville, Like would they claim that it was

2712
01:58:32.199 --> 01:58:34.880
an accident where they're gonna claim that it was the enemy?

2713
01:58:35.279 --> 01:58:38.640
Did it? Like, because that's it's a big thing to cover.

2714
01:58:38.840 --> 01:58:40.079
It's a small nuclear bomb.

2715
01:58:40.159 --> 01:58:42.479
Yeah, it was a nuclear bomb on the town.

2716
01:58:42.840 --> 01:58:43.039
Yeah.

2717
01:58:43.159 --> 01:58:46.199
Yeah. So by this point they're screaming in the graves.

2718
01:58:46.279 --> 01:58:48.359
We see a skeleton rise up and scream, the same

2719
01:58:48.399 --> 01:58:51.359
one we saw earlier. Y yeah, and that is nineteen

2720
01:58:51.439 --> 01:58:53.239
eighty five's Return of the Living Dead. As we kick

2721
01:58:53.239 --> 01:58:55.399
into forty five's party time and we get our home

2722
01:58:55.520 --> 01:58:57.720
run of the greatest moments of Return to the Living just.

2723
01:58:57.840 --> 01:59:01.239
Funny and bizarre moments played under the credits like a

2724
01:59:01.359 --> 01:59:02.079
comedy movie.

2725
01:59:02.319 --> 01:59:02.640
Perfect.

2726
01:59:03.239 --> 01:59:06.279
It's great because it makes it feel like the party

2727
01:59:06.399 --> 01:59:10.000
that it was. It was a fun horror movie. It

2728
01:59:10.119 --> 01:59:12.039
still had horror, it still had the gore that was

2729
01:59:12.079 --> 01:59:15.640
meant to be serious. Yeah, but it has this attitude,

2730
01:59:16.399 --> 01:59:19.000
very punk rock attitude. I mean, I remember what a

2731
01:59:19.039 --> 01:59:21.279
big deal it was when the soundtrack came out through

2732
01:59:21.359 --> 01:59:24.720
a Enigma record. Oh yeah, Enigma, who had handled Dead

2733
01:59:24.760 --> 01:59:27.079
Milkman and Mojo Nixon, all these punk bands, and it

2734
01:59:27.199 --> 01:59:29.279
was like your soundtrack album's coming out.

2735
01:59:29.199 --> 01:59:31.560
Through the punk label Texas Stance all too, I r s.

2736
01:59:31.760 --> 01:59:34.520
Yeah, came out through IRS the same kind of thing. So,

2737
01:59:34.760 --> 01:59:36.479
And I mean in the soundtrack had the Cramps on

2738
01:59:36.560 --> 01:59:40.800
it and stuff like that, which SO did. So it's it's.

2739
01:59:40.720 --> 01:59:42.399
As google to be more precise.

2740
01:59:42.720 --> 01:59:44.680
Oh when the sun goes down.

2741
01:59:44.560 --> 01:59:47.439
And all the Wednesday fans are so happy right now?

2742
01:59:47.479 --> 01:59:48.159
Oh, well, good for that.

2743
01:59:49.079 --> 01:59:53.239
So do you know what the budget was on return Living?

2744
01:59:53.479 --> 01:59:56.880
I should Uh was it like seven or eight?

2745
01:59:57.520 --> 01:59:59.960
You're close? Four? It was four million? Okay, it was low,

2746
02:00:00.279 --> 02:00:03.520
I thought so, four million dollar budget. It opens August eighteenth,

2747
02:00:03.640 --> 02:00:06.439
nineteen eighty five, to take in four million, four hundred

2748
02:00:06.439 --> 02:00:10.920
and three dollars opening weekend, opening weekend worldwide, grossing fourteen million.

2749
02:00:11.279 --> 02:00:13.760
Not bad, not bad by those standards. That's a hit.

2750
02:00:13.920 --> 02:00:17.279
Yeah. So filming started July ninth, nineteen eighty four, completing

2751
02:00:17.359 --> 02:00:20.680
on August eighteenth, nineteen eighty four, in Los Angeles, California,

2752
02:00:20.720 --> 02:00:23.920
burbanks Sylomar and downtown area. And there is one shot

2753
02:00:24.039 --> 02:00:25.760
of Louisville, which is at the very end of the movie.

2754
02:00:25.800 --> 02:00:28.640
As we saw. Although most of the movie is set

2755
02:00:28.680 --> 02:00:30.880
in Louisville, Kentucky, it was filmed in California. The only

2756
02:00:30.920 --> 02:00:32.840
scene actually film in Louisville was shot at the front

2757
02:00:32.880 --> 02:00:36.199
gate of Louisville's Eastern Cemetery. Oh so I'm wrong, it's

2758
02:00:36.319 --> 02:00:36.840
that one.

2759
02:00:37.039 --> 02:00:39.680
Okay, okay, all right, cool. I didn't think any shots

2760
02:00:39.720 --> 02:00:40.359
were from Louisville.

2761
02:00:40.520 --> 02:00:43.600
Yeah, honesty, So the Louisville police uniforms and patrol cars

2762
02:00:43.640 --> 02:00:46.760
were all period correct. John Russo receives a story credit

2763
02:00:46.800 --> 02:00:50.119
despite the only similarity is his original treatment being the title.

2764
02:00:50.199 --> 02:00:53.119
His original screenplay was Dead Serious Horror Story, which was

2765
02:00:53.159 --> 02:00:54.760
a direct sequel to the Night of Living Dead and

2766
02:00:54.840 --> 02:00:57.880
based on playvel Yeah, taking place ten years later in

2767
02:00:58.000 --> 02:01:00.399
dealing with the trio of sisters being menaced by looters

2768
02:01:00.439 --> 02:01:03.479
in the countryside when the zombie plague mysteriously begins again.

2769
02:01:03.439 --> 02:01:07.119
And there was a whole thing where basically what they

2770
02:01:07.239 --> 02:01:10.279
ended up deciding on was that Romero could do his

2771
02:01:10.560 --> 02:01:14.720
of the Dead movies. Yeah, and Russo's space was the

2772
02:01:14.840 --> 02:01:18.039
Living Dead. Yeah of Living Dead, so that that's kind

2773
02:01:18.079 --> 02:01:20.479
of where that division came from. Yeah, but it's wild

2774
02:01:20.520 --> 02:01:23.279
because I've only ever heard that Russo's script was not

2775
02:01:23.439 --> 02:01:23.800
very good.

2776
02:01:23.920 --> 02:01:25.439
I've heard the novels good, but yeah, I've heard the

2777
02:01:25.439 --> 02:01:25.880
script was not.

2778
02:01:26.000 --> 02:01:27.119
I would love to read the books.

2779
02:01:27.119 --> 02:01:29.239
So he sells Returnal Living Dead at his tables when

2780
02:01:29.239 --> 02:01:30.079
he's he didn't just.

2781
02:01:30.079 --> 02:01:30.760
Get it on the internet.

2782
02:01:30.800 --> 02:01:34.479
Toby Hooper had originally been brought on to direct the film,

2783
02:01:34.520 --> 02:01:36.439
but due to the film's production stalling, he had to

2784
02:01:36.520 --> 02:01:38.600
leave the project so that he could go direct Life

2785
02:01:38.680 --> 02:01:39.760
Force for Cannon Film.

2786
02:01:39.840 --> 02:01:41.399
Ironically, Dan O'Bannon wrote.

2787
02:01:41.279 --> 02:01:44.680
Yes, he did. Yeah. The executive producers attempted to contact

2788
02:01:44.720 --> 02:01:46.960
George Romero several times in order to offer him the

2789
02:01:47.000 --> 02:01:49.399
choice of producing the movie, but he never answered. In fact,

2790
02:01:49.479 --> 02:01:52.520
Romero had agreed with his former partner Russo that they

2791
02:01:52.600 --> 02:01:54.920
would make separate sequels to their horror and hit Night

2792
02:01:54.960 --> 02:01:57.439
of Living Dead, with Romero's films being referred to as

2793
02:01:57.520 --> 02:01:59.960
The Dead Movies and Russo's as Living Dead Series.

2794
02:02:00.520 --> 02:02:03.680
And Romero was knee deep in Day of the Dead. Yeah,

2795
02:02:03.760 --> 02:02:05.479
in the middle of all that, and Day of the

2796
02:02:05.560 --> 02:02:08.119
Dead had a ton of trouble. Yeah, Their budget got

2797
02:02:08.199 --> 02:02:11.880
slashed a bunch to the point where he basically turned

2798
02:02:11.960 --> 02:02:14.560
I think it was like the first act of the

2799
02:02:14.640 --> 02:02:17.079
originally planned Day of the Dead. Is he turned into

2800
02:02:17.119 --> 02:02:17.840
a full movie.

2801
02:02:17.840 --> 02:02:21.680
That makes it I'm not surprise by that. Richard P. Rubinstein,

2802
02:02:22.159 --> 02:02:24.880
producer of Donna the Dead nineteen seventy eight at Laurel Entertainment,

2803
02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:26.720
didn't want people to think this film was part of

2804
02:02:26.760 --> 02:02:29.319
Georgia Merrow's Living Dead series. He even got an injunction

2805
02:02:29.439 --> 02:02:31.560
to stop the makers of Returnal Living Dead from using

2806
02:02:31.600 --> 02:02:34.960
living dead in the title. However, the NPAA arbitrators ruled

2807
02:02:35.000 --> 02:02:37.119
in favor of producer John Russo, since he had co

2808
02:02:37.199 --> 02:02:39.640
written At a Living Dead and based this film on

2809
02:02:39.720 --> 02:02:42.520
his own novel Returnal Living Dead. In fact, Ramiro had

2810
02:02:42.600 --> 02:02:44.600
long before agreed with Russo that he would drop the

2811
02:02:44.640 --> 02:02:47.119
word living dead from all his subsequent sequels Donna the Dead,

2812
02:02:47.159 --> 02:02:48.800
Day of the Dead, Land of the Dead, et cetera.

2813
02:02:49.199 --> 02:02:53.359
Yeah. No, and it's been an interesting ride. It has

2814
02:02:53.479 --> 02:02:56.319
been the whole I have so versus Romero camp.

2815
02:02:56.439 --> 02:02:58.840
I need to go back to Land in Survival. Those

2816
02:02:58.880 --> 02:03:00.119
are the two that I had the most trouble with.

2817
02:03:00.279 --> 02:03:01.720
Land actually did age.

2818
02:03:02.439 --> 02:03:05.800
Age pretty well. Survival's not well. Survival's pretty rough. I

2819
02:03:05.840 --> 02:03:07.199
always liked I like Diary.

2820
02:03:07.199 --> 02:03:10.119
I always liked Diary. Director Dan O'Bannon was originally supposed

2821
02:03:10.119 --> 02:03:12.199
to play Frank, and he wrote the part with himself

2822
02:03:12.239 --> 02:03:13.920
in mind, but when James Karen came in to read

2823
02:03:13.960 --> 02:03:16.279
for another part, Obandon was simply blown away and hired

2824
02:03:16.359 --> 02:03:17.000
him on the spot.

2825
02:03:17.119 --> 02:03:19.600
Yeah, that's two. I mean, I mean O'Bannon wasn't a

2826
02:03:19.680 --> 02:03:23.279
bad actor. Yeah, but James Karen's St. Karen Incredible. Actor

2827
02:03:23.479 --> 02:03:24.560
Clu Galligher was cast.

2828
02:03:24.640 --> 02:03:26.920
His first day of shooting, O'Bannon was worried because his

2829
02:03:27.039 --> 02:03:28.920
vision of Burt was so precise, but he loves the

2830
02:03:29.439 --> 02:03:31.359
what the actor created. Of course, he got a little

2831
02:03:31.399 --> 02:03:33.720
hysterical and punched me out a few times, but that's fine.

2832
02:03:33.720 --> 02:03:36.640
I will forgive almost anything for the quality on screen. Yes,

2833
02:03:36.720 --> 02:03:40.319
there is in fact stories of Gallagher chasing Obandon with

2834
02:03:40.399 --> 02:03:41.279
a bat on set.

2835
02:03:41.399 --> 02:03:45.880
Clue had an overall good reputation, but he was known

2836
02:03:45.960 --> 02:03:48.239
for being an old school while he had a temper.

2837
02:03:48.560 --> 02:03:51.359
Yeah, he had a temper. According to Jules Shephard Dan

2838
02:03:51.439 --> 02:03:53.640
O'Bannon met her in the early eighties when he was

2839
02:03:53.680 --> 02:03:56.119
a member of a very ultra chicin private club where

2840
02:03:56.159 --> 02:03:58.720
she worked as a shripper. They became good friends because

2841
02:03:58.720 --> 02:04:00.880
they had a lot in common and he bought her drugs.

2842
02:04:01.239 --> 02:04:03.039
When he got the directing gig for the film, he

2843
02:04:03.119 --> 02:04:05.079
wanted her to play Trash, but she was fed up

2844
02:04:05.119 --> 02:04:07.439
with being naked on stage and in small film roles

2845
02:04:07.439 --> 02:04:09.640
at the time, so she suggested the audition for party

2846
02:04:09.680 --> 02:04:12.239
girl Casey, since she liked to party, and he agreed.

2847
02:04:12.359 --> 02:04:16.159
Well, she said some bs though she told him she

2848
02:04:16.319 --> 02:04:19.800
wouldn't hear nude in movies. Yeah, and in reality had

2849
02:04:19.960 --> 02:04:22.479
just done a nude role that he didn't know about. Yeah,

2850
02:04:22.520 --> 02:04:25.920
so she just kind of bsked. But we got Lenea

2851
02:04:26.000 --> 02:04:26.640
Quickly in the film.

2852
02:04:26.800 --> 02:04:29.319
Is she the one that's in out for Justice as

2853
02:04:29.359 --> 02:04:31.640
the body double to the one chick that we were

2854
02:04:31.640 --> 02:04:33.960
watching the one time? Or is that Michelle Bauer Michelle

2855
02:04:34.000 --> 02:04:36.720
Bower is Bower? Okay? I thought so. Tom Matthews got

2856
02:04:36.720 --> 02:04:38.239
his ear piers for the role of Freddy since the

2857
02:04:38.319 --> 02:04:40.960
character's description specifically called for one. He later found out

2858
02:04:41.000 --> 02:04:42.840
he could have just warn a fake airing the entire time.

2859
02:04:43.279 --> 02:04:49.680
I yeah, Lenea Quickly originally danced to the song nasty

2860
02:04:49.720 --> 02:04:52.199
Girl by Vanity If you are a fan of Beverly

2861
02:04:52.239 --> 02:04:53.600
Hills Cop that is the song that plays in the

2862
02:04:53.640 --> 02:04:56.079
strip club in the film Okay during the filming of

2863
02:04:56.079 --> 02:04:58.760
her famous cemetary striptease. Nasty Girl was later replaced by

2864
02:04:58.800 --> 02:05:00.640
the song Tonight We'll Make Love and We Die by

2865
02:05:00.680 --> 02:05:01.439
Stacey Swain.

2866
02:05:02.279 --> 02:05:02.920
I mean it was good.

2867
02:05:03.000 --> 02:05:04.680
It was a good It was a good swap. The

2868
02:05:04.720 --> 02:05:07.399
shot of the barrel corpse nicknamed Tarban changing through. The

2869
02:05:08.119 --> 02:05:10.520
changing through the glass panel was done with wax over

2870
02:05:10.600 --> 02:05:12.199
the face of the skull and heat turned up to

2871
02:05:12.279 --> 02:05:15.039
melt it. The glass crack was unintentional and happened due

2872
02:05:15.039 --> 02:05:15.479
to the heat.

2873
02:05:16.000 --> 02:05:19.119
Oh nice. Yeah, I also liked the touch that they

2874
02:05:19.680 --> 02:05:22.279
composited fog over it because the fog is moving in

2875
02:05:22.359 --> 02:05:23.000
a normal speed.

2876
02:05:23.079 --> 02:05:26.800
You pointed that Alan Troutman said in the DVD commentary

2877
02:05:26.920 --> 02:05:28.479
that one of the main ingredients for the tar of

2878
02:05:28.520 --> 02:05:31.960
his costume was methisol. Methasol is a thickening agent used

2879
02:05:31.960 --> 02:05:34.199
in milkshakes and also one of the main ingredients for

2880
02:05:34.239 --> 02:05:38.640
the Blob nineteen eighty eight. Oh yeah, food stuff is

2881
02:05:39.039 --> 02:05:40.720
all about special effects, is all about food.

2882
02:05:40.720 --> 02:05:41.199
So yeah.

2883
02:05:41.359 --> 02:05:44.000
Obanon was aiming for a pacing similar to screwball comedies

2884
02:05:44.039 --> 02:05:46.479
of Howard Hawk's, which was fast stepping on each other's

2885
02:05:46.560 --> 02:05:48.680
lines and one of the sound chaotic. They rehearsed for

2886
02:05:48.760 --> 02:05:51.000
a week to ensure the dialogue he wanted heard did

2887
02:05:51.079 --> 02:05:52.199
not get lost in the shuffle.

2888
02:05:52.319 --> 02:05:55.359
No, and that's very clear by like even right at

2889
02:05:55.399 --> 02:05:58.840
the beginning when he's Freddy's going er and Frank, why kid,

2890
02:05:58.880 --> 02:06:01.680
you're learning? Yeah, it's completely that Vaudeville style.

2891
02:06:02.000 --> 02:06:03.960
The scene where Tina falls through a broken step was

2892
02:06:04.000 --> 02:06:06.720
done without Beverly Randolph's knowledge it was going to be done.

2893
02:06:06.880 --> 02:06:09.319
Director Dan O'Bannon had a false step put in while

2894
02:06:09.359 --> 02:06:10.880
she was at lunch, then told her to do a

2895
02:06:10.960 --> 02:06:13.319
test run up the stairs. She wound up banged up

2896
02:06:13.319 --> 02:06:15.319
and bruised as a result, and also the reason why

2897
02:06:15.359 --> 02:06:17.840
Tina didn't get up immediately and run in the scene.

2898
02:06:18.079 --> 02:06:19.760
That is one hundred percent true. They've talked about in

2899
02:06:19.760 --> 02:06:22.720
the documentary that Obannon had a problem sometimes with the

2900
02:06:22.760 --> 02:06:26.199
way he handled working with his actors. That really dangerous. Yeah,

2901
02:06:26.560 --> 02:06:30.359
that's really really dangerous. The lead pipe the Cougawger uses

2902
02:06:30.439 --> 02:06:32.640
the movie is actually made of rubber. He initially used

2903
02:06:32.680 --> 02:06:34.680
real pipe, but the crew snuck it away from him

2904
02:06:34.680 --> 02:06:36.520
and replaced it with a rubber one. As Obannon was

2905
02:06:36.560 --> 02:06:39.920
worried about Clue's frequent anger and sometimes violent outbursts both

2906
02:06:40.039 --> 02:06:41.439
on and offset, you.

2907
02:06:41.520 --> 02:06:44.159
Was also swinging the thing around a lot, just in character.

2908
02:06:44.520 --> 02:06:46.439
Some of the zombie extras were paid bonus to eat

2909
02:06:46.479 --> 02:06:48.720
real calf brands in the film. Dan O'Bannon didn't want

2910
02:06:48.720 --> 02:06:50.279
the actors to do anything he wasn't willing to do,

2911
02:06:50.439 --> 02:06:52.800
and ate some raw calf brains first in front of them,

2912
02:06:53.000 --> 02:06:54.800
to show that he wouldn't ask them to do anything

2913
02:06:54.840 --> 02:06:56.239
he wasn't willing to do himself.

2914
02:06:57.079 --> 02:06:57.840
I wouldn't do that.

2915
02:06:58.039 --> 02:06:58.079
No.

2916
02:06:59.239 --> 02:07:01.680
The character of Ernie played by Don Kaffa, is thought

2917
02:07:01.680 --> 02:07:03.880
to be a Nazi due to him sharing his name

2918
02:07:04.039 --> 02:07:06.840
Ernest Cault Berner. There are also character details that provide

2919
02:07:06.840 --> 02:07:09.359
an indication of this. In his past, Ernie listens to

2920
02:07:09.399 --> 02:07:13.039
the German Africa Corpse March song Panzer Rollin in Africa

2921
02:07:13.399 --> 02:07:15.880
on his Walkman while he and Balm's Bodies carries a

2922
02:07:15.960 --> 02:07:18.640
German Walther p. Thirty eight has a picture of Ava

2923
02:07:18.680 --> 02:07:21.439
Brown in his morgue, refers to the rainstorm coming down

2924
02:07:21.560 --> 02:07:24.600
like Iron Berston sold it, which means a drunk soldier

2925
02:07:24.640 --> 02:07:27.560
in German. Yeah, really knows his way around a crematorium

2926
02:07:27.640 --> 02:07:29.800
and seems surprised and a shame when he learns that

2927
02:07:30.199 --> 02:07:33.159
the dead can feel pain. Dan O'Bannon and the DVD

2928
02:07:33.239 --> 02:07:35.880
commentary mentions that Ernie was intended to be escape Nazi

2929
02:07:36.000 --> 02:07:36.520
in hiding.

2930
02:07:36.840 --> 02:07:39.800
Yeah and there the Easter eggs you mentioned are all

2931
02:07:39.920 --> 02:07:43.439
perfect for that. I mean, they really are. And Don

2932
02:07:43.560 --> 02:07:46.479
Kalfa lamented that the worst part of that role was

2933
02:07:46.520 --> 02:07:48.399
having to bleach his hair such as hair, like three

2934
02:07:48.439 --> 02:07:49.880
times and it never went back the same.

2935
02:07:50.119 --> 02:07:50.319
Yeah.

2936
02:07:50.399 --> 02:07:51.960
Yeah, well he claimed it grew back.

2937
02:07:52.079 --> 02:07:55.079
Yeah. After the rabbit weasels are brought into the Resurrection

2938
02:07:55.199 --> 02:07:57.319
funeral home and the tarp is removed, what is actually

2939
02:07:57.359 --> 02:07:59.479
in the bags are motorized toy monkeys that have the

2940
02:07:59.520 --> 02:08:00.399
symbols moved.

2941
02:08:00.760 --> 02:08:02.680
That's funny. Yeah, that's a perfect solution.

2942
02:08:02.840 --> 02:08:05.279
Klu Gallagher has expressed great pride of appearing in the film,

2943
02:08:05.359 --> 02:08:07.039
even going as far to call it one of the

2944
02:08:07.119 --> 02:08:09.319
five genuine works of art that I've been a part of.

2945
02:08:09.720 --> 02:08:09.960
Wow.

2946
02:08:10.159 --> 02:08:12.840
Yeah, he really did like this, that's fair. When shooting

2947
02:08:12.960 --> 02:08:16.439
trashes lenaequill these gravestone dance, she initially was completely naked

2948
02:08:16.479 --> 02:08:18.520
and showed pubic hair, as was the norm in the

2949
02:08:18.600 --> 02:08:22.199
early eighties. However, producer Graham Henderson visited the shoot that

2950
02:08:22.279 --> 02:08:24.359
day and, according to himself and others, threw a fit

2951
02:08:24.520 --> 02:08:26.800
yelling at Dan O'Bannon that you can't show pubic hair

2952
02:08:26.840 --> 02:08:30.600
on television. Dan sent Lenea away and had her completely shaved,

2953
02:08:30.880 --> 02:08:33.680
which coincidentally, Linae herself found to be the most embarrassing

2954
02:08:33.720 --> 02:08:35.880
part of the whole thing. They did another shoot, to

2955
02:08:35.920 --> 02:08:38.439
which Graham Henderson cried out, oh God, it's even worse.

2956
02:08:38.479 --> 02:08:41.520
You could see everything. Ironically, the exact same thing would

2957
02:08:41.520 --> 02:08:43.640
happen with Matilda May's new scenes in the next movie

2958
02:08:43.680 --> 02:08:45.920
obandoned scripted Life Force in nineteen eighty five.

2959
02:08:46.199 --> 02:08:48.920
Well, a lot of that was about foreign especially yeah,

2960
02:08:49.119 --> 02:08:50.720
was that they wouldn't be able to release it foreign,

2961
02:08:51.039 --> 02:08:51.479
showing that.

2962
02:08:51.800 --> 02:08:53.800
At this point, they sent Lenaa quickly over to Bill

2963
02:08:53.880 --> 02:08:56.840
Muns and William Stout, where they made an algaet crotch

2964
02:08:56.880 --> 02:08:59.319
piece resembling the bottom of a G string and gluted on.

2965
02:08:59.439 --> 02:09:01.439
According to Lenea, this was a bit of a problem.

2966
02:09:01.560 --> 02:09:03.680
Every single time she had to go to the bathroom

2967
02:09:03.720 --> 02:09:05.560
they had to remove it. Because of this, there are

2968
02:09:05.600 --> 02:09:07.960
no shots of Linnaea with a completely naked crotch area

2969
02:09:08.279 --> 02:09:11.119
like an apartment store mannequin quickly joked once that she

2970
02:09:11.199 --> 02:09:13.319
has never had more attention focused on her vagina than

2971
02:09:13.399 --> 02:09:16.119
when they were shooting this scene. Fans still ask if

2972
02:09:16.119 --> 02:09:17.720
there's any footage of the versions of the dance with

2973
02:09:17.800 --> 02:09:20.760
cubic hair or uncovered shaved vagina, but so far none

2974
02:09:20.840 --> 02:09:21.439
has shown up.

2975
02:09:21.800 --> 02:09:24.560
Well, I'm gonna if I were a betting man, I'd

2976
02:09:24.600 --> 02:09:26.039
say it would show up by now, so I must

2977
02:09:26.039 --> 02:09:27.720
say stop a emailing you.

2978
02:09:28.159 --> 02:09:31.079
Return Living Dead invented the popularized notion of the public

2979
02:09:31.119 --> 02:09:34.159
conscious zombies eating specifically brains as opposed to simply flesh,

2980
02:09:34.239 --> 02:09:36.880
and that zombies grown brains as they walk. It's also

2981
02:09:36.960 --> 02:09:39.199
the first film to ever show zombies being able to run,

2982
02:09:39.239 --> 02:09:40.920
as well as being able to speak and being in

2983
02:09:40.960 --> 02:09:43.880
possession of more than base animal instincts. In a critical

2984
02:09:43.920 --> 02:09:45.680
scene in the movie, a zombie who has killed one

2985
02:09:45.720 --> 02:09:48.239
of the characters is tied to a table and explains

2986
02:09:48.279 --> 02:09:50.680
that dead seek brains because eating brains makes the pain

2987
02:09:50.800 --> 02:09:54.119
go away. Romero invented the specific trade as part of

2988
02:09:54.199 --> 02:09:56.279
his Night a Living Dead series, though he has emphasized

2989
02:09:56.279 --> 02:09:59.760
that this was not his idea. According to the recently

2990
02:09:59.800 --> 02:10:01.920
Really at Least book The Complete History Return of the

2991
02:10:02.000 --> 02:10:04.640
Living Dead, The Simpsons creator Matt Groing came up with

2992
02:10:04.720 --> 02:10:08.159
the tagline they're hungry and They're not vegetarians, which appears

2993
02:10:08.199 --> 02:10:10.560
in some trailers. Another tag line he came up with

2994
02:10:10.760 --> 02:10:12.600
was first they want to meet you, then they want

2995
02:10:12.640 --> 02:10:16.079
to eat you, which was rejected by the studio. A

2996
02:10:16.159 --> 02:10:18.199
young George Clooney visited the set as he was then

2997
02:10:18.239 --> 02:10:19.560
the roommate of Tom Matthews.

2998
02:10:19.800 --> 02:10:21.079
Oh okay, yeah wow.

2999
02:10:21.279 --> 02:10:23.319
Lenea closely said in an interview she had no idea

3000
02:10:23.359 --> 02:10:25.000
the movie would be a hit until about a year

3001
02:10:25.039 --> 02:10:26.800
after it was released and she was mobbed that a

3002
02:10:26.880 --> 02:10:28.319
Fangoria convention in La.

3003
02:10:29.439 --> 02:10:31.680
It was a it was a different type. She had

3004
02:10:31.720 --> 02:10:33.800
been doing a lot of the kind of La low

3005
02:10:33.840 --> 02:10:37.000
budget cult movies. Yeah, so she just kind of was

3006
02:10:37.079 --> 02:10:39.600
used to the like little cult following she got from

3007
02:10:39.680 --> 02:10:42.960
VHS rentals and stuff, and then for return to become

3008
02:10:43.079 --> 02:10:46.359
a mainstream hit was a massive boon to her career

3009
02:10:46.479 --> 02:10:46.920
big time.

3010
02:10:47.199 --> 02:10:48.880
There are two versions of the song party Time by

3011
02:10:48.920 --> 02:10:50.600
the band forty five. Grave of the band recorded the

3012
02:10:50.680 --> 02:10:52.840
zombie version of their song for the movie soundtrack, which

3013
02:10:52.920 --> 02:10:54.720
mentions the events of the film but not featured in

3014
02:10:54.720 --> 02:10:57.680
the movie itself. In the cemetery scene following Trash's dance,

3015
02:10:57.760 --> 02:10:59.600
the band's original version of the song, which is about

3016
02:10:59.600 --> 02:11:01.520
a five year old girl beaten, raped and murdered by

3017
02:11:01.560 --> 02:11:04.199
her own family, can be heard clearly playing instead.

3018
02:11:04.399 --> 02:11:07.199
Dina Cancer is a hell of a writer, yeah, and

3019
02:11:07.279 --> 02:11:09.720
a hell of a singer. That song is rough, damn dude.

3020
02:11:10.039 --> 02:11:11.560
The nuclear cannon at the end of the film was

3021
02:11:11.600 --> 02:11:16.560
actually a World War two German howitzer. Ah, the frost

3022
02:11:16.640 --> 02:11:18.439
on the walls of the freezer room is actually Christmas

3023
02:11:18.479 --> 02:11:20.800
tree flocking. O'Bannon wishes they had the budget and could

3024
02:11:20.800 --> 02:11:22.800
have afforded to actually turn the temperature down in there

3025
02:11:22.840 --> 02:11:23.920
and see the actor's breath.

3026
02:11:24.760 --> 02:11:26.680
Too bad, they hadn't invented e cigarettes yet.

3027
02:11:26.560 --> 02:11:30.399
Did have a sadist. Mark Ventury, Miguel Nuez, and Tom

3028
02:11:30.479 --> 02:11:32.600
Matthews went to have roles in the Fried Thirteenth film

3029
02:11:32.680 --> 02:11:35.119
series when Chury is Vic Faden and Nuez and Demon

3030
02:11:35.199 --> 02:11:37.840
and Friday Thirteenth, The New Beginning and Matthews's Tommy Jarvis

3031
02:11:37.920 --> 02:11:39.279
and Part six Jason Lives.

3032
02:11:39.880 --> 02:11:40.000
Dan.

3033
02:11:40.079 --> 02:11:42.159
O'Bannon said on the DVD commentary that he decided the

3034
02:11:42.239 --> 02:11:45.039
films Tina's Lonely Walk from the Cemetery to the Warehouse

3035
02:11:45.079 --> 02:11:47.800
with long shots and top down angles because she felt

3036
02:11:47.840 --> 02:11:50.720
the most horror films are excuse me. He felt that

3037
02:11:50.840 --> 02:11:53.359
most horror films film the characters from close up. O'Bannon

3038
02:11:53.479 --> 02:11:56.239
felt that this was tired and cliched. However, once he

3039
02:11:56.359 --> 02:11:58.399
had seen the final product, he regretted filming it the

3040
02:11:58.439 --> 02:12:00.680
way he did, stating that afterwards he realized that the

3041
02:12:00.720 --> 02:12:02.720
close ups and tight shots help you follow the character

3042
02:12:02.760 --> 02:12:03.760
and connect with their feelings.

3043
02:12:04.079 --> 02:12:06.239
Yeah, yeah, there's not a lot of close ups. There's

3044
02:12:06.239 --> 02:12:07.159
not a lot of that stuff.

3045
02:12:07.279 --> 02:12:07.359
Now.

3046
02:12:07.479 --> 02:12:09.920
I don't think it hurts the movie really much, but

3047
02:12:10.159 --> 02:12:13.239
it is an odd thing to realize to watch it

3048
02:12:13.279 --> 02:12:14.760
and go, hey, there's almost no coverage.

3049
02:12:15.399 --> 02:12:17.039
James Karen came up with the idea for the death

3050
02:12:17.079 --> 02:12:19.079
scene of his character. Originally, Frank was supposed to be

3051
02:12:19.119 --> 02:12:21.760
completely transformed into a zombie and join the zombie Mob,

3052
02:12:21.800 --> 02:12:23.720
but Karen did not wish to film any scenes in

3053
02:12:23.760 --> 02:12:26.000
the cold ran of Los Angeles, so he instead suggested

3054
02:12:26.039 --> 02:12:28.840
that Frank concinerate himself before the transformation could be completed,

3055
02:12:28.880 --> 02:12:30.399
and Obannon agreed to the suggestion.

3056
02:12:30.640 --> 02:12:32.960
Hey, I should recommend that anytime I don't like a role,

3057
02:12:33.039 --> 02:12:35.439
I get an I just get incinerated.

3058
02:12:35.479 --> 02:12:38.680
At the end, and lastly, very early on, after Trioxon

3059
02:12:38.760 --> 02:12:41.000
is unleashed, the only zombies around are the cadaver in

3060
02:12:41.039 --> 02:12:44.119
the medical warehouses, Freezer, and Tarman in the basement. Freddie

3061
02:12:44.159 --> 02:12:46.439
says that they should call the emergency number on the barrels,

3062
02:12:46.520 --> 02:12:48.279
only for Burt and Frank to shoot him down because

3063
02:12:48.279 --> 02:12:50.159
they don't want to bring the army and government police

3064
02:12:50.199 --> 02:12:53.680
scrutiny that would ruin the warehouse's business onto them. They

3065
02:12:53.760 --> 02:12:55.840
were right about the army, all right, but that is

3066
02:12:55.880 --> 02:12:58.119
because their solution for dealing with triox and zombies is

3067
02:12:58.199 --> 02:13:01.239
killing everything in the general area hopes for minimal civilian

3068
02:13:01.319 --> 02:13:04.039
collateral damage. Even more ironic is the fact that had

3069
02:13:04.079 --> 02:13:06.199
they called the number four trying to cook the Yellowkadaver,

3070
02:13:06.520 --> 02:13:08.279
the Army would have probably been able to contain it

3071
02:13:08.319 --> 02:13:10.760
to two zombies, Yellowcadaver and Tarman, and the two infected

3072
02:13:10.840 --> 02:13:13.000
humans Frank and Freddy. However, due to the fact that

3073
02:13:13.039 --> 02:13:15.199
they didn't call the number sooner, the army nuked the

3074
02:13:15.279 --> 02:13:17.039
area because of the fact that there were more than

3075
02:13:17.079 --> 02:13:19.279
twenty zombies with the numbers increasing.

3076
02:13:20.079 --> 02:13:23.880
I mean, yeah, that's that's pretty much the whole folly

3077
02:13:23.960 --> 02:13:24.720
of the film. Yep.

3078
02:13:25.239 --> 02:13:27.479
So what are your final thoughts on nineteen eighty five's

3079
02:13:27.520 --> 02:13:28.479
Return of Living Dead? Oh?

3080
02:13:28.520 --> 02:13:31.199
For fox sake? I mean, it's a classic yea of

3081
02:13:31.279 --> 02:13:34.159
all classics. If you love horror movies, you're gonna want

3082
02:13:34.159 --> 02:13:37.000
to own it. You absolutely should own it. It should

3083
02:13:37.039 --> 02:13:40.800
be in your collection, yeah, whether digitally or physical media,

3084
02:13:40.880 --> 02:13:41.920
there's plenty of options.

3085
02:13:42.880 --> 02:13:43.760
It's it is.

3086
02:13:44.840 --> 02:13:47.399
It's a quintessential zombiee oh yeah. And it's funny because

3087
02:13:47.439 --> 02:13:50.840
it started out as being kind of a not a knockoff,

3088
02:13:50.880 --> 02:13:52.319
but a little bit a little bit yeah kind of,

3089
02:13:52.479 --> 02:13:54.079
and it ended up being its own thing so much.

3090
02:13:54.119 --> 02:13:56.239
And I think that that is really a testament to

3091
02:13:56.319 --> 02:13:58.359
Dan O'Bannon's creativity on this movie.

3092
02:13:58.479 --> 02:14:00.119
I mean, I remember when that Blu ray was was

3093
02:14:00.119 --> 02:14:01.920
announced and they had said like they had gotten as

3094
02:14:02.000 --> 02:14:03.840
much music as they possibly could, because at that point,

3095
02:14:03.880 --> 02:14:05.520
I think it was like they were down to like

3096
02:14:05.560 --> 02:14:07.199
four or five songs missing. I want to say.

3097
02:14:07.279 --> 02:14:07.319
So.

3098
02:14:07.439 --> 02:14:09.720
The big problem with the soundtrack on Return the Living

3099
02:14:09.800 --> 02:14:13.000
Dead was the contract, Yeah, for the music said for

3100
02:14:13.159 --> 02:14:16.119
theatrical and VHS. It might have even had laser disc

3101
02:14:16.159 --> 02:14:18.680
in there. I'm not sure, probably, but because of that

3102
02:14:18.800 --> 02:14:23.560
specific wording, the music had to be relicnsed for later releases,

3103
02:14:23.840 --> 02:14:26.960
and MGM and whoever was not willing to spend a

3104
02:14:27.000 --> 02:14:30.720
lot of money on that. It's a common problem. It's

3105
02:14:30.760 --> 02:14:33.560
why now when you sign contracts they will say all

3106
02:14:33.640 --> 02:14:35.760
the home media that exists it'll like list it and

3107
02:14:35.800 --> 02:14:38.640
then it'll say and any home media to be invented.

3108
02:14:39.680 --> 02:14:42.000
So that's why you have a lot of movies with

3109
02:14:42.119 --> 02:14:44.640
that problem. TV shows as well, but that's more because

3110
02:14:44.680 --> 02:14:46.960
they would get the license just for a broadcast broadcast.

3111
02:14:47.079 --> 02:14:49.159
Yeah, but I remember this Blu ray was making a

3112
02:14:49.199 --> 02:14:50.680
splash of the news when it came out. I mean,

3113
02:14:50.720 --> 02:14:52.359
it was already a popular film, but I mean this

3114
02:14:52.560 --> 02:14:54.479
is a by it. There is no way around it.

3115
02:14:54.600 --> 02:14:58.720
This is the quintessential zombie movie that really sped things

3116
02:14:58.800 --> 02:15:00.560
up for how scary the zombe could get.

3117
02:15:00.640 --> 02:15:02.600
Well, and it's only become more beloved as eighties and

3118
02:15:02.640 --> 02:15:05.199
nostalgiazed become extremely beloved.

3119
02:15:05.239 --> 02:15:08.960
Absolutely so so thrills, chills, chemical spills. Oh man, he

3120
02:15:09.399 --> 02:15:11.359
had to put that in there one more time, all right, Alright,

3121
02:15:11.680 --> 02:15:14.159
So we also like to undershow with a couple recommendations.

3122
02:15:14.239 --> 02:15:16.039
My first one for this week should be No Surprise

3123
02:15:16.399 --> 02:15:18.720
Return a Living Dead Part two from nineteen eighty eight,

3124
02:15:18.800 --> 02:15:22.079
currently rentable on Prime Curious Kids Unearth the barrels that

3125
02:15:22.119 --> 02:15:24.680
previously helped revive the dead, which proves the second times

3126
02:15:24.720 --> 02:15:25.720
an undead charm.

3127
02:15:26.439 --> 02:15:28.479
I can't believe you chose the sequel, I had to

3128
02:15:28.880 --> 02:15:31.319
fair enough. Great, it's a lot of fun.

3129
02:15:31.439 --> 02:15:35.840
But then going back into more fun and insane zombie movies,

3130
02:15:35.880 --> 02:15:39.359
I've gotta go with nineteen eighty five's Demons, currently available

3131
02:15:39.399 --> 02:15:42.680
on two V screen, box Plex, Pluto, and AMC plus.

3132
02:15:43.000 --> 02:15:45.079
A group of random people are invited to a screening

3133
02:15:45.159 --> 02:15:47.479
of a mysterious movie, only to find themselves trapped in

3134
02:15:47.520 --> 02:15:50.399
the theater with ravenous demons. That's a hell of a film,

3135
02:15:50.520 --> 02:15:52.399
so good, A lot of fun just gets better and better.

3136
02:15:52.600 --> 02:15:56.000
So my recommendation. I racked my brain a bit. I

3137
02:15:56.159 --> 02:15:59.520
wasn't thinking zombies, although kind of got zombies, yeah, but

3138
02:15:59.560 --> 02:16:02.479
I was trying to think of what's a film as

3139
02:16:02.720 --> 02:16:07.600
dark in the literal plot as return that you could

3140
02:16:07.640 --> 02:16:10.000
but also fun at the same time. Yeah, So I

3141
02:16:10.079 --> 02:16:12.399
won nineteen eighty four's Night of the Comet, good gall

3142
02:16:12.560 --> 02:16:14.319
which is a hell of a lot of fun.

3143
02:16:14.479 --> 02:16:14.680
Yeah.

3144
02:16:14.840 --> 02:16:17.319
If you have never seen Night of the Comet, what's

3145
02:16:17.399 --> 02:16:21.319
wrong with you? It's uh, let's see what the IMDb says.

3146
02:16:21.520 --> 02:16:23.600
A comet wipes out most of life on Earth, leaving

3147
02:16:23.680 --> 02:16:27.079
two valley girls fighting against cannibal zombies and a sinister

3148
02:16:27.159 --> 02:16:30.520
group of scientists. Wild movie it is so much fun.

3149
02:16:30.720 --> 02:16:33.799
It's streaming right now on MGM Plus and you can

3150
02:16:33.840 --> 02:16:36.440
also oh and to B and Pluto, so you can

3151
02:16:36.479 --> 02:16:37.159
watch it for free.

3152
02:16:37.399 --> 02:16:39.920
First time I saw that movie, I was a bit underwhelmed.

3153
02:16:40.120 --> 02:16:42.600
And then yeah, it was when I think, did Jabob

3154
02:16:42.760 --> 02:16:43.079
show it?

3155
02:16:44.280 --> 02:16:45.319
You saw it that recently?

3156
02:16:45.479 --> 02:16:48.719
Well, I mean the watch like that was I got.

3157
02:16:48.760 --> 02:16:50.479
The first time I saw it was I got the

3158
02:16:50.840 --> 02:16:53.079
Shout Factory Blu ray when it had come out when

3159
02:16:53.079 --> 02:16:54.239
I was in college, so that would have been like

3160
02:16:54.440 --> 02:16:58.079
twenty thirteen ish, And it wasn't a bad movie. It

3161
02:16:58.159 --> 02:17:00.559
just underwhelmed me. And then yeah, I think it was

3162
02:17:00.639 --> 02:17:02.120
Jobob hosting it. I was just like, oh, this movie

3163
02:17:02.200 --> 02:17:02.920
kicks ass man.

3164
02:17:03.200 --> 02:17:05.840
See, it was a TV mainstay when I was growing up.

3165
02:17:05.879 --> 02:17:07.879
I could see that, and then it disappeared. Oh it

3166
02:17:08.000 --> 02:17:10.920
wasn't on DVD for forever. Yeah, it was one of

3167
02:17:10.959 --> 02:17:13.520
those movies that people would trade around, like Monster Squad.

3168
02:17:13.600 --> 02:17:15.280
Ended up becoming that way for a long time too.

3169
02:17:15.559 --> 02:17:17.319
So when it finally when Night of the Comet finally

3170
02:17:17.360 --> 02:17:20.000
hit DVD, people were rejoicing like crazy because they were like,

3171
02:17:20.040 --> 02:17:24.959
we can finally watch this ridiculous, awesome, apocalyptic quasi zombie

3172
02:17:25.280 --> 02:17:27.440
horror film and it's it's so much fun.

3173
02:17:27.559 --> 02:17:29.559
I just one of my favorite lines is I'm not crazy.

3174
02:17:29.600 --> 02:17:30.840
I just don't give a fuck.

3175
02:17:30.920 --> 02:17:33.040
I'm not crazy. I just don't give a fuck. My

3176
02:17:33.200 --> 02:17:37.280
favorite is when they're shooting the mac tens and the

3177
02:17:37.520 --> 02:17:39.600
one sister turns the other says, Daddy would have got.

3178
02:17:39.600 --> 02:17:43.000
Us oozerss so good. So do we have any emails

3179
02:17:43.040 --> 02:17:43.360
this week?

3180
02:17:43.520 --> 02:17:44.079
You know we do?

3181
02:17:44.440 --> 02:17:45.719
Oh but before we read.

3182
02:17:45.600 --> 02:17:47.079
The emails, do we want to check in?

3183
02:17:47.239 --> 02:17:52.200
Oh with Ebert just by himself, though unfortunately this time sadly,

3184
02:17:52.639 --> 02:17:55.319
sadly the young Ebert because this is eighty five when

3185
02:17:55.319 --> 02:17:57.840
the movie comes out. Oh dear, Yeah, here we go.

3186
02:17:58.920 --> 02:18:01.239
The Living Dad began when a teenager gets a job

3187
02:18:01.319 --> 02:18:04.719
and one of those supply companies that sells cadavers and skeletons.

3188
02:18:04.920 --> 02:18:06.879
Let's you imagine he bought that poster and just after

3189
02:18:07.120 --> 02:18:09.600
the movie they didn't give it to him, Like this movie.

3190
02:18:09.559 --> 02:18:12.559
I'll take one, and I think he stole one. He's

3191
02:18:12.600 --> 02:18:14.360
like at Chicago, you guys got drug dealers.

3192
02:18:14.399 --> 02:18:16.840
To remember that movie Night of the Living Dead about

3193
02:18:16.840 --> 02:18:19.000
all the ghuls and zombies that were walking around. Well,

3194
02:18:19.040 --> 02:18:22.639
that movie was actually based on fact, except the governments

3195
02:18:22.680 --> 02:18:25.200
that pressed it. And to prove it, I've got some

3196
02:18:25.319 --> 02:18:28.000
of those zombies down in the basement right now in

3197
02:18:28.120 --> 02:18:29.280
air tight canisters.

3198
02:18:32.440 --> 02:18:36.239
You say that thing was alive, so they say, can

3199
02:18:38.639 --> 02:18:39.639
the US Army call?

3200
02:18:39.719 --> 02:18:41.360
They give away that gag on TV.

3201
02:18:41.559 --> 02:18:42.719
Huh yeah? Nice?

3202
02:18:44.559 --> 02:18:46.840
Did They go into the music and the gouls escape

3203
02:18:46.840 --> 02:18:48.559
and they turn out to have this is from a

3204
02:18:48.639 --> 02:18:51.680
package they give you for TV. I could see that clips.

3205
02:18:51.600 --> 02:18:53.040
Very disturbing symptoms.

3206
02:18:59.520 --> 02:19:01.559
It's wild to look at what Ebert was doing in

3207
02:19:01.559 --> 02:19:03.840
the eighties and how YouTubers do it now.

3208
02:19:04.000 --> 02:19:07.000
Yeah, but you know, more involved.

3209
02:19:08.600 --> 02:19:10.479
A lot like all the other Living Dead movies, this

3210
02:19:10.559 --> 02:19:13.520
one is about how the guls march around, eating everything

3211
02:19:13.559 --> 02:19:16.239
they can get their hands on and terrifying those few

3212
02:19:16.280 --> 02:19:17.920
people who aren't ghouls themselves.

3213
02:19:21.360 --> 02:19:24.719
I've got it. There's some pretty graphic show on TV.

3214
02:19:25.040 --> 02:19:28.159
Well, it's kind of cartoonish, I guess. I mean there's

3215
02:19:28.159 --> 02:19:29.040
no like blood Blood.

3216
02:19:29.200 --> 02:19:32.760
Yeah, The Living Dead is a rip off or not.

3217
02:19:32.879 --> 02:19:36.000
Because this movie was not made by the same people

3218
02:19:36.040 --> 02:19:38.360
who made Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of

3219
02:19:38.399 --> 02:19:41.520
the Dead and Day of the Dead the Living Dead trilogy.

3220
02:19:41.920 --> 02:19:42.799
This movie is.

3221
02:19:43.159 --> 02:19:44.319
Inspired by those movies.

3222
02:19:44.360 --> 02:19:46.440
It's made by different people, but yet at the same time,

3223
02:19:46.879 --> 02:19:49.000
I liked it better than the recent Day of the

3224
02:19:49.040 --> 02:19:52.200
Dead because effects it better, the humor is better, the

3225
02:19:52.280 --> 02:19:54.760
acting is better. So I give it three stars, and

3226
02:19:54.799 --> 02:19:55.639
I'm Roger Ebert.

3227
02:19:55.840 --> 02:19:57.440
I think that's three out of four. I'm not mistaken.

3228
02:19:57.600 --> 02:20:01.840
The humor is better, you mean then the humorless Day

3229
02:20:01.920 --> 02:20:04.479
of the Dead, which I love, by the way, I

3230
02:20:04.680 --> 02:20:07.120
love Day of the Dead. It's but it's the darkest,

3231
02:20:07.280 --> 02:20:09.559
bleakest possible films.

3232
02:20:09.639 --> 02:20:11.000
Like it's so fucking sad.

3233
02:20:11.440 --> 02:20:12.239
I love that about it.

3234
02:20:12.319 --> 02:20:13.559
It's so good. I mean, it's great.

3235
02:20:13.920 --> 02:20:16.200
I'm glad that that's a movie that's aged really well.

3236
02:20:16.200 --> 02:20:19.200
A lot of people didn't consider it like worthy of

3237
02:20:19.239 --> 02:20:21.799
being their favorite Dead movie, and now it's not uncommon

3238
02:20:21.840 --> 02:20:22.680
to hear people's it.

3239
02:20:22.799 --> 02:20:24.879
Was the last of the original run that I saw,

3240
02:20:24.959 --> 02:20:27.000
and it wasn't It wasn't just not by scene, it

3241
02:20:27.200 --> 02:20:29.239
was just it was. It was not high on the

3242
02:20:29.319 --> 02:20:30.719
list because Donn of the Dead was so good.

3243
02:20:31.120 --> 02:20:33.719
Yeah, well don is like probably my favorite movie of

3244
02:20:33.760 --> 02:20:36.600
all time. Yeah, and Day is a lot of fun.

3245
02:20:36.680 --> 02:20:39.559
I remember renting it on tape until a DVD finally

3246
02:20:39.639 --> 02:20:43.120
came out. I was so excited to see it in widescreen.

3247
02:20:43.239 --> 02:20:44.159
So such a good movie.

3248
02:20:44.319 --> 02:20:46.959
Oh yeah, so uh but yeah, that's what Eber thought.

3249
02:20:47.120 --> 02:20:49.840
Shockingly enough, he liked it. I didn't think he liked

3250
02:20:49.920 --> 02:20:53.200
anything ever, But if Cisco were there, I'm sure he

3251
02:20:53.200 --> 02:20:53.959
would have pissed us off.

3252
02:20:54.040 --> 02:20:54.399
I'm sure.

3253
02:20:54.680 --> 02:20:58.600
So we got a very nice email. Awesome and uh

3254
02:20:59.280 --> 02:21:02.159
I wanted to read this, but it's actually it's very emotional, okay,

3255
02:21:02.399 --> 02:21:06.399
and and uh yeah, so uh this is that show

3256
02:21:06.440 --> 02:21:09.440
apparently email reads. Uh oh and by the way, if

3257
02:21:09.479 --> 02:21:11.040
you want to email us, you can set us email

3258
02:21:11.079 --> 02:21:13.879
at dooeven movie pod at gmail dot com. It's in

3259
02:21:13.920 --> 02:21:16.159
the show notes or the description. We'd love to hear

3260
02:21:16.200 --> 02:21:18.760
from you, says, Hey, Enrique and Dave. I know you

3261
02:21:18.879 --> 02:21:20.600
don't know me, but I just want to let you

3262
02:21:20.680 --> 02:21:24.000
both know how much I love and appreciate this podcast.

3263
02:21:24.479 --> 02:21:27.760
I am going through some shit all caps right now.

3264
02:21:28.479 --> 02:21:30.440
I'll spare you the SOB story, but it's been a

3265
02:21:30.520 --> 02:21:33.639
damn bumpy ride and your podcast is a major comfort

3266
02:21:33.680 --> 02:21:36.000
to me. There's a ton more I could say, but

3267
02:21:36.079 --> 02:21:38.639
I don't want to ramble too much. Just know I

3268
02:21:38.799 --> 02:21:44.920
appreciate you both deeply. Please don't ever stop making podcasts together, love, Rosa.

3269
02:21:45.719 --> 02:21:46.319
That's awesome.

3270
02:21:46.719 --> 02:21:49.959
Wow, Rosa. We're honored to have you hang out with

3271
02:21:50.079 --> 02:21:54.719
us and talk about silly, stupid movies and occasionally administer

3272
02:21:54.840 --> 02:21:59.000
what may be legally considered therapy d Yeah. So, no, sincerely,

3273
02:21:59.120 --> 02:22:02.159
We're so happy to have you with us listening. It

3274
02:22:02.280 --> 02:22:05.200
means a lot, and it definitely makes a tired day

3275
02:22:05.360 --> 02:22:08.840
where we have to tack on doing a podcast a

3276
02:22:08.959 --> 02:22:09.680
lot easier.

3277
02:22:09.760 --> 02:22:12.079
No, it does, And Rosa, I will tell you straight

3278
02:22:12.159 --> 02:22:16.959
up that I fell into podcasts really heavily during quarantine

3279
02:22:17.040 --> 02:22:20.360
because I had exhausted my music library at that point

3280
02:22:20.639 --> 02:22:22.719
because I was just a home and listening to it NonStop.

3281
02:22:23.239 --> 02:22:26.639
And it really can make the difference, just even just

3282
02:22:26.719 --> 02:22:29.000
a couple of strangers' voices that become friends because of

3283
02:22:29.079 --> 02:22:32.000
how much you spend time with them. So no, I mean,

3284
02:22:32.479 --> 02:22:34.799
I'm very grateful that we can be that for you

3285
02:22:34.959 --> 02:22:37.639
right now, and I hope things get better and please

3286
02:22:37.680 --> 02:22:39.040
feel free to write and again, we'd love to hear

3287
02:22:39.040 --> 02:22:39.719
from you again.

3288
02:22:39.680 --> 02:22:42.639
Absolutely, and thank you, yes so, And we want to

3289
02:22:42.639 --> 02:22:45.280
remind everybody do even movie pod at gmail dot com.

3290
02:22:45.360 --> 02:22:47.399
We love to hear your opinions on movies, your thoughts

3291
02:22:47.440 --> 02:22:49.799
on the show, your thoughts on movies. We've already watched

3292
02:22:49.840 --> 02:22:52.239
movies we should watch. We just like to hear from you.

3293
02:22:52.280 --> 02:22:54.639
You can also comment if you're watching us on YouTube, Yeah,

3294
02:22:54.760 --> 02:22:56.920
leave a review. If you're listening to us Apple Podcasts

3295
02:22:56.959 --> 02:22:59.280
or Spotify, it really helps a lot, and you could

3296
02:22:59.319 --> 02:23:02.399
also comment on Spotify. I read and respond to every

3297
02:23:02.440 --> 02:23:05.680
comment we get on Spotify, douevenmovie dot Com is where

3298
02:23:05.680 --> 02:23:09.120
you find everything about us and our show out. So

3299
02:23:09.559 --> 02:23:13.079
I guess that is about all there is to say

3300
02:23:13.120 --> 02:23:16.120
about that on our longest episode ever, I would imagine

3301
02:23:16.120 --> 02:23:18.559
because Dave finally opened his little heart.

3302
02:23:20.040 --> 02:23:24.200
So, speaking of, you know, more showers of emotions, would

3303
02:23:24.200 --> 02:23:25.959
you like to know what we're talking about next week?

3304
02:23:27.120 --> 02:23:27.600
Let me know.

3305
02:23:27.959 --> 02:23:31.000
April Showers continues as we go into week three with

3306
02:23:31.120 --> 02:23:33.239
one that will be a first time watch for Enrique.

3307
02:23:33.399 --> 02:23:35.799
It's true and that is gonna be two thousand and

3308
02:23:35.840 --> 02:23:39.280
two's Road to Perdition starring Tom Hanks. This is a

3309
02:23:39.600 --> 02:23:42.719
great late gangster effort that has a role of Tom

3310
02:23:42.799 --> 02:23:45.200
Hanks that you not expect them to play normally because

3311
02:23:45.200 --> 02:23:47.319
he's a gun in this. Oh okay, that's an assassin.

3312
02:23:47.479 --> 02:23:48.559
So it's really really good.

3313
02:23:48.639 --> 02:23:49.520
I've heard it's a great film.

3314
02:23:49.600 --> 02:23:51.799
Yeah, apparently Avaible on Paramount. Plus you can also get

3315
02:23:51.959 --> 02:23:53.760
a pretty cheap blue I think right now too. So

3316
02:23:53.760 --> 02:23:56.000
if you haven't seen it, get on it. And that

3317
02:23:56.120 --> 02:23:57.719
is what we are going to be talking about next week.

3318
02:23:57.760 --> 02:23:59.239
And I cannot wait to show you that movie.

3319
02:23:59.360 --> 02:24:02.799
Well, and what for insecurity you're harboring? I mean, we'll

3320
02:24:02.799 --> 02:24:03.120
get to it.

3321
02:24:03.200 --> 02:24:06.079
We're recording this before we technically go to wasteland, so

3322
02:24:06.079 --> 02:24:07.360
we'll see with the wee weekend rings.

3323
02:24:07.479 --> 02:24:10.639
Oh gosh, are you expecting like horrible things to happen?

3324
02:24:11.479 --> 02:24:11.600
Oh?

3325
02:24:11.719 --> 02:24:14.000
Man, I didn't. I did invite a bunch of people

3326
02:24:14.079 --> 02:24:16.559
I assume might be bullies. Just go through your books

3327
02:24:16.559 --> 02:24:18.280
and just yeah, I was just circling them based on

3328
02:24:18.319 --> 02:24:20.319
their sour puss. I was like, I look at him.

3329
02:24:20.319 --> 02:24:21.879
I was like, I do beat updated.

3330
02:24:22.319 --> 02:24:28.319
So but with all that being said, my friends, thank

3331
02:24:28.360 --> 02:24:30.719
you all so much for joining us. We really, we

3332
02:24:30.840 --> 02:24:33.440
really do appreciate it. So all that's left to say

3333
02:24:33.719 --> 02:24:35.399
is we will.

3334
02:24:35.280 --> 02:24:36.200
See you next.

3335
02:24:37.000 --> 02:24:38.040
I want to party?

3336
02:24:38.479 --> 02:24:42.280
Do you want to party? Party? Times?

3337
02:24:43.200 --> 02:24:46.319
Had to work it in three times. You're never gonna

3338
02:24:46.319 --> 02:24:48.600
hear the end of that cockiness. Nope, Next time guys,