Feb. 13, 2026

Cutting Deep into Horror | Pearl (2022) Mia Goth’s Stardom Nightmare, Ti West’s X Prequel

Cutting Deep into Horror | Pearl (2022) Mia Goth’s Stardom Nightmare, Ti West’s X Prequel
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Cutting Deep Into Horror

Psychological horror breakdown time. Henrique Couto & Rachael Redolfi dive into Ti West’s Pearl (2022) — the candy-colored prequel to X that turns ambition, isolation, repression, and rage into a full-blown descent. We talk Mia Goth’s star-making performance, why the film feels like a twisted classic-Hollywood fever dream, and how the story’s backdrop of 1918 rural life, sickness, and war-era anxiety amplifies Pearl’s need to be seen… and her capacity to snap.
This is a spoiler-friendly discussion that balances analysis with fun commentary: the movie’s look, tone, character psychology, and what Pearl is really saying about fame hunger, performing normal, and the horror of being trapped in the life you didn’t choose.

Where to watch (U.S.)

  • Apple TV (rent/buy): https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/pearl/umc.cmc.75j73kjmgv3th4uw9nrotobyq
  • “Where to stream” hub (rent/buy listings): https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/pearl-2022

Inside this episode
  • Why Pearl works as psychological horror and character study
  • The “Technicolor nightmare” vibe: how style makes the violence hit harder
  • Pearl’s need for stardom vs. the reality of confinement and caretaking
  • The movie’s emotional pressure-cooker: control, shame, resentment, longing
  • How Pearl connects to X (and why the trilogy view is so rewarding)
  • The performances and moments that make the film unforgettable


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Welcome to my farm.

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Well, it's such a it's such a cute little farm.

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It's not very little. We used to have five men

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worked here, you know, before the kaiser started stirring up

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some shit.

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Like there's yeah.

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What's so pretty about it? That's what I thought. Yeah,

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you know, we used to have two cows, but then

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one cow killed the other, and then out of guilt,

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I assume it killed itself.

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So maybe things aren't so like.

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You want to go down to the river. There's a

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big old walligator over there. Why are you looking at

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me like that? Why are you looking at me like that?

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I think I need to go.

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I'm gonna smile and it's gonna hurt God.

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Why are you smiling like that?

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No, it's so like comfortable.

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This podcast is about why horror scares us, what deep

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dark secrets scary cinema shines a light on. The discussions

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are frank and involve conversations about abuse, trauma, and mental health.

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There are also spoilers, so keep that in mind too. Now,

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sharpen your machetes and straight razors, because this is cutting

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deep into horror.

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Hello and Welcome back to Cutting Deep into Horror. I'm

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your host Enrique Kuto here with my co host Rachel Ridolfi. Rachel,

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how are you.

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I'm doing pretty all right?

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Yeah?

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Yeah.

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Do you feel it?

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Do I feel it?

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M Love is in the air.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, because.

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It's almost Valentine's Day. It is. In fact, when this airs,

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it'll be the day before Valentine's Day, which I just

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that's just dawned on me. That means that's a Friday

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of the thirteenth. How did I How did I miss

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that it's a Friday the thirteenth. Half to leave Saturday

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is the fourteenth? Yeah, that it's a Friday the thirteenth. Oh, man,

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I completely whiffed on knowing that. Wow, I have to

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make arrangements. Yeah yeah, gotta watch some Friday thirteenth movies.

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Gotta figure out something else. I don't know what I mean.

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Traditionally we do Friday foods that yeah, we did.

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That was eight years ago. We haven't done that since then.

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Yeah, that was Friday the thirteenth. That was like seven

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or eight years ago.

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That was a whole day, that was like a day that.

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Was basically the closest thing to being a short order

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cook I've ever I've ever experienced. I didn't leave the

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kitchen once. I just stood there battering and frying and

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battering and frying.

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No, Okay, that's not true though, because you would leave

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the kitchen to start the next Friday the Thirteenth movie.

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That's true. I'm the only person who knew how to

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operate a piece of technology at that time referred to

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as the PlayStation four. So I had to know how

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to I had to have to know how to pop

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the disc it and have it play. Gosh, that would

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have been. That would have been before there was even

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a Friday the Thirteenth box set. That was back when

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there were Some of the Blu rays were individual. Yeah, Man,

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Dark Times Man, Super Dark Times. Bro. But tonight, since

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we're getting ready for the Love Holiday, we are going

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to be talking about a film that, well, you picked

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for Valentine's Day. I mean, I don't think it's a

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bad pick for Valentine's Day, but it's not, you know,

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entirely a Valentine's Day move or anything like that. It

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came out in September, but I did make you watch it,

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make you watch it, but I showed it to you

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on Valentine's Day if I remember Valentine's Weekend or something

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like that. But it's a twenty twenty two's Pearl, yeah,

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and starring Mia Goth and it is a in my opinion,

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it's a masterpiece. I really do believe that, which is

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wild because it came out of nowhere. It was directed

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by Ty West, and it's a sequel to the film X,

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but it's well, it's a prequel, but it's in the

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series X series and that's a whole other thing to

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point out. So to rewind with Pearl, I went to

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see X in the theater. For those who don't know Ty

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West's work, He's done a lot of really interesting movies.

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He kind of came up in what in an era,

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a film called mumble Gore. Mumble Gore, Yeah, I haven't

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heard that before. It was a riff on mumble core, okay,

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which was an era in the late nineties and early

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two thousands where people were making these mini DV movies

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and DSLR movies. That the reason they called the mumble

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core was kind of a joke because they tended to

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have a lot of improvised dialogue, so people were kind

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of mumbling and talking over each other. They tended to

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have lower quality sound because they were low budget. They

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were often very small productions, and so mumblecore was this

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kind of movement of like drama comedies that would come out,

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and a lot of guys that were in the mumblecore

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movement made mumble gore movies as well. Okay, like Joe Swanberg,

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Oh gosh, what's his name? The guys did creep Mark,

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Mark Duplas and his brother the Duklass Brothers, they made

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mumble core movies and then also ended up making mumble

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gore movies. So it was a play on words. And

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then mumble core was a play on the idea of

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calling something core if it was like in music, you

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would yeah, like you know, posey corp meant positive hardcore

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or whatever. So but Ty West came up right in

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that era, and he started his career with a film

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called The Roost, followed by a film called trigger Man,

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both which I thought were fine, but they were kind

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of forgettable. But then he made a movie called the

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House of the Devil in two thousand and nine, which

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lots of people love. I am somewhat indifferent to it.

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I don't know why. Maybe I need to rewatch it

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when I'm in a really good mood because maybe it's great,

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and I just it didn't connect with the two times

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I watched it. I didn't love it. But it had

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great aesthetics, great performances, shot on super sixteen millimeter film,

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and they like leaned into it. They said it in

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the seventies. Oh but then in twenty eleven, Ty West

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did a movie called The Innkeepers, a ghost story, a

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very simple ghost story horror film that actually just played

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on Joe Bob's Last Drive in a week ago. And

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when I saw The Innkeepers, that that was when I

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decided Ty West was friggin' awesome, because that movie really

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got to me, like it freaked me out. It's a

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very slow burn, but there's a moment when the first

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ghostly thing happens. It scared me. It shook me to

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my core. And it's funny because that is often the

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one Tie West movie people malign. It doesn't have a

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particularly grand amount of violence or a particularly grand amount

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of gore or scares. It's very simplistic. I love it.

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I think The Innkeepers. Until until Pearl, I considered The

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Innkeeper's his finest film. Okay, and it's also worth mentioning

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that in the realm of ty West's movies. And he

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went on to make other films too. He did a

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movie called In a Valley of Violence, which was a western,

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which is hilarious because it was a tie western, which

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I thought was pretty fun. I thought it was pretty

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damn good. I enjoyed it. He directed Cabin Fever two

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Spring Fever, which I guess he disowned. It wasn't that great,

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but neither was, in my opinion, the first Cabin Fever.

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And I'm not trying to be a jerk. If I

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ever say a movie is not my favorite, I'm not

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trying to be cute. I don't believe that, with few exceptions,

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that there are films that are just playing bad. Yeah,

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but there are definitely films that I don't enjoy or

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that I don't that maybe aren't for me. Yeah. That's

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something I always try to keep in mind, is like,

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maybe this just isn't for me. It's not something I

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would like.

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Yeah, I'm just not the right audience for it.

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Yeah. Well, I've often said there are no bad movies,

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only bad audiences, because that was literally the catchphrase of

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popcorn fodder's for a season was there no bad movies,

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only bad audiences. So he's made some really interesting films.

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He directed segments on VHS the original VHS anthology, The

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ABC's of Death. He did a found footage movie called

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The Sacrament which is about cults, which I really liked

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and thought was just really solid good stuff. So yeah,

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he's a very talented director. And in I think it

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was twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, he came out

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with a movie called X, which was a slasher movie

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that kind of aped on some Texas chainsaw massacre vibes,

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and it was basically about a group of young people

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in Texas in the seventies who rent a little farmhouse

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and shoot a porn movie in it, and a lot

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of crazy things ensue. People start getting murdered, and the

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bad guys in it are the elderly couple that owns

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the property who don't approve of what they're doing. So

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in that film, the old lady was named Pearl, and

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in the background of shots you would see these photos

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of her when she was younger, and they were portrayed

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by Mia Goth who played a character in X. So

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it was a little strange in some ways. She played

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Maxine Minx was her character name in there, and she

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was also under all the makeup playing Pearl in an.

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X as an old lady.

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And supposedly how Pearl came about was they were filming

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X in New Zealand during the lockdown for COVID nineteen

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and in that time period, one of the solutions for

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productions was they would do what they called the bubble,

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which meant everyone in the production was allowed to commingle.

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They just couldn't leave the bubble, so you had places

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you could eat. Often hotels would be a bubble like

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because some of the pro wrestling television shows did that too.

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They would do two weeks of bubble and they would

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film as much TV as they could where everybody was

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together because that way, if anybody got sick, it was contained. Yeah,

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So they were already in the bubble in New Zealand

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filming X and Mia Goth and Ty West who started

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to get along very well, and Mia Goth had lots

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of ideas that Ty West liked, so she came to

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him with this idea, let's make a prequel about Pearl

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when she was a young girl, which would have been

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in like nineteen eighteen. So they ended up raising the

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money quickly because they already had crew. All they did

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was get more cast. Like they had most of the stuff,

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they had the sets built. They just had to make

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them look young again, yeah, you know, look new. And

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they shot a whole other film before they wrapped all

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the stuff. They just decided to roll it in to

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another movie because they were already there. And when I

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went to see X premiere night, I'll be come up, well,

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you know, I'll tell you what I thought of it.

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Right after this, I was a little rusty because it's

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been a while. All right, we're back. And when I

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saw X, it was opening night when it opened wide

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in the United States, and I would say, for me,

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for me, X is a solid three star flick. It's not.

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It didn't blow me away. It didn't make me lose

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my mind that I had to go get a copy

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or whatever. But I did enjoy it. I had a

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good time with it. And then at the end, when

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the credits were done, they play a trailer for Pearl,

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which had been a secret until then. They had kept

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it relatively secret that they'd made a whole other movie.

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And the trailer was just mind boggling because X was

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meant to feel like Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It was meant

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to be, you know, very dark and gritty and gross

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and grainy. And then all of a sudden, they're showing

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this technic color nightmare, big swelling orchestral music. It looks

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like The Wizard of Oz and it's this girl dancing

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around with the little moments of violence kind of hidden

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into it, and none of us knew what the hell

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it was. In the theater, we're just like, what what

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is that? Because because first we thought there would be

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a you know, a post credit scene, right, but then

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when this starts playing, we're like, holy crap, this is

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a trailer. This isn't This isn't like a Kee's or

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a parody, Like this is a trailer. Yeah, because at

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first some of us thought it was like a parody,

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it was gonna be like a joke. It was like

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a joke, but it wasn't. So then I don't remember

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exactly how long it was. Less than a year later

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it came out in theaters. I went to see it

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because I was like, hey, X was pretty good. This

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looks interesting, And I walked out of Pearl, just with

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the immediate word on my mouth being this is a masterpiece. Yeah,

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this is a brilliant piece of filmmaking. Fascinating characters, fascinating storytelling.

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Everything about it is really really brilliant and thought out,

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down to setting it during the Spanish Flu so all

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the extras could wear masks because that was the law

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in New Zealand at the time. Like, it's all really

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clever and thought out. And Mia Goth and Ty West

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wrote the script together for Pearl. So the reason we're

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talking about Pearl and not X is to me, Pearl

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just is really something special. But also Pearl's a prequel,

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so you don't have to watch X to appreciate Pearl,

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but you do find lots of hidden gems.

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Absolutely.

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And with the massive success of Pearl, there was a

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third film in the what they call the X film

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series called Maxine, which they shot a couple years later,

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which features Maxine Minx from the first film after she's

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escaped and is living her best life as a porn

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actress in Hollywood, trying to make, you know, make it

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in traditional movies, and unfortunately Maxine Maxine did fine. I

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thought it was good. I did love Maxine. I thought

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it was pretty good. It was very jallo. Yeah in eighties.

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It takes place in the eighties, but it was very jallowy.

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I did enjoy it, but it didn't blow my mind.

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Pearl just blew my mind, and that's why we're talking

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about it tonight.

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But also Maxine was you know, was hopefully going to

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be a huge hit, but they ended it ended up

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doing double the box office of Pearl and X and

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cost like three or four times what they cost, so

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it wasn't a very big success. It made twenty million

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to the box office but cost maybe ten as to

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where I'm pretty sure Pearl and Maxine or Pearl and

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X both cost around two million dollars to make, er

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maybe a lot less. Who knows. They haven't published the

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uh oh, yeah, they haven't published the budgets of that.

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I don't believe. I'm double checking now. Did they publish

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a no budget for Pearl? I don't think I see

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a budget for X. So yeah, I mean, but they

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were pretty pretty successful, so h but no, Pearl just yeah,

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blew my mind. So usually I ask like, when was

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the first time we've seen it? So that is mine? Yeah,

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I was giving a rundown, and then I pretty much

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gave in, like that's the first time I've seen it.

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So you want to tell me about when when I

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made you watch it?

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Well, you, uh, you one year for Valentine's Day. You

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kind of made the decision. It was I believe when

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Pearl like came to Blu Ray possibly or when you

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got it.

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On I I think I want to say they were

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both on HBO Max.

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Maybe that's what it was, but I.

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Might be wrong. I might have bought Pearl on Blu

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Ray and X was on HBO Max, which is why

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I was like, let's watch yeah both, And at that

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point Maxine hadn't come out, hadn't been made yet.

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But you you had told me when Pearl came out,

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like this is absolutely amazing and you're gonna have to

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see this eventually. So when you told me, yeah, we

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should we should watch this for Valentine's Day, I think

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it'd be fun. I thought that was great, and we

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we actually watched X first, and I thought it was fun.

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I definitely, you know, I got the Texas chainsaw vibes,

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the kind of grindhouse aesthetic that they were going for,

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and then the moment because you really didn't even tell

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me much about Pearl other than it was a prequel.

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I didn't tell you it was like amazing and that

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I loved it.

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Well, you said it was amazing. You said it was amazing,

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and you loved me and you loved it. But you

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didn't tell me like what, what, what kind of tone

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it had or anything. You just said it was a prequel.

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So the moment it started and the music swelled, and

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know the bright, garish technicolor you know, came on screen,

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I was enthralled. And I feel like I didn't breathe

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the entire time we watched the movie because I was

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just so utterly captivated with all of it. And yeah,

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like you said that, the story itself is compelling. All

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of the characters are very compelling because it is a

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rather bare bones cast all things considered, and it is

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kind of a story about like isolation and being almost

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being captive or finding freedom in a way, because it

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kind of, you know, at the start of the movie,

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you kind of feel for Pearl, and I'm kind of

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jumping ahead now, but yeah, it just the way the

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whole movie played out. I was so enthralled the whole time.

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So, yeah, it's a very captivating film. It really, it's

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fascinating to watch. The music is lush and massive and

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very old school Hollywood. Yeah, which is a big element

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of the film is everything is kind of old school Hollywood.

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And I want to mention, you know, Mia goth has

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has had a wild career since x X was kind

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of her big catapult. But she's been a fashion model

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since she was sixteen years old. That's how she got

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into show business and then she I mean she worked

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for Prada, Vogue, tons of places, glamour and she also

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started auditioning for films around the same time. She was

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sixteen years old, and her first role was in Lars

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von Truer's Nympho Maniac, which that's a hell of a

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film to have to start your career. And I'll tell

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you that much because that is a a rough film, right,

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but she was She became known pretty much immediately for

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taking kind of odd, darker you know, harsher roles pretty

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much immediately. She ended up in a couple of other things,

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like The Survivalist, which I saw that I'd like to

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rewatch it. I remembered liking it. She had small roles

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in Gosh a bunch of stuff. I mean, just a

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bunch of stuff, a cure for wellness. She was in

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that one and then her career really kind of shot

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off with X and and rightfully so, she's very talented,

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although and she mostly gets pigeonholed as playing the crazy

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girl with no eyebrows. But and you know, I'm not

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saying that she is crazy, but I am saying that

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she's been married to Shilah Buff for like ten years. Ah, so,

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and I like Shilah Buff, but like you know, yeah, yeah,

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being married to Shilah Buff is a that is a move.

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So but we'll dive into Pearl and all the things

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that fascinate us about this story of It's interesting that

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you went with this concept of escape and isolation because

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I see it there. But that's not where I like

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kind of leaned my my brain. So I'll be I'll

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be interested to pick your brain about that more. Right

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after this, all right, we're back talking about Pearl, and

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I have a lot of thoughts, especially after this last viewing, yeah,

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where I kicked back and we put on my projector

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which I'm trying not to be angry about the fact

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that I have to send it off to get serviced soon.

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But we watched We watched Pearl on the four K

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projector in four K. I had to buy the four

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K digitally because my dumb butt didn't order a import

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in time. But you know, looks great, sounds great, as usual,

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gorgeous film it is. I mean it's it's a film

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where the visuals are very aggressive. I think the term

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I often hear is hyper realistic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which

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is what Technicolor really is. Is the idea of Technicolor.

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Back in the so back in the day, when you

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shot a movie in color, you had to buy a

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film stock, and the film stock could would be in color,

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but you had to have it processed, and the film

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would be processed by Technicolor. Technicolor was a known name

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in that field, and they were known for very vibrant,

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bright colors. The most famous example of Technicolor is The

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Wizard of Oz because that was one of the first

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Technicolor films. That was right when movies were starting to

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be in color. That's one misconception. People often think that

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Wizard of Oz was the first color movie. I think

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because it literally shows the transition from black and white

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to color. Yeah, but it was more so. Color was

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still novel, So having the movie go from black and

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white to vibrant, technic color was surprising to people because

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they had just assumed movies were still made in black

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and white at that time, even big movies. Yeah, so

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they just assumed they were seeing a black and white movie.

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So when all of a sudden it's color, it was

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very exciting and very surprising to them. But yeah, so

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the vibrant colors are throughout. We get this opening where

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she's hanging out at the farm and it's very The

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music is just so so golden age of cinema. Yeah,

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the big flourishes. It really works phenomenally. It does well.

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It feels like you know you're watching you know the

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Sound of Music or The Wizard of Oz or you

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know Casa Blanca or any of those classics where it

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just draws. I saw like half of it on AMC.

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Wants so I need to see all of it.

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I wish that it had been that other one where, Frankly,

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my dear, I don't give a damn I figure which

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one that was Scarlett O'Hara. I think so, I think

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that was Scarlett era. I haven't seen Casta Blanca since

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I was a kid. So I was just surprised when

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you mentioned it, because it's like, it's one of those

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that everybody thinks of, yeah when they think of old

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movies as Castle Blanket, because that was one of the

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big ones, Citizen Kane.

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Oh yeah, see, that's a huge one.

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Yeah, and this one was. This film is very reminiscent

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of those on purpose because it's of the era when

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those movies were made. Yeah, which I think is extra

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fascinating because as she's doing her chores and everything seems

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so cutesy and fun and exciting. That's not what the

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nineteenth the late tens and twenties were like in real life.

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That's at all.

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Movies don't usually capture truth. Sorry to those out there

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who believe in the truth of cinema and autur theory

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and stuff. But I have a rule. You've probably heard

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me say this before. I have a rule that I

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generally assume, like I'll be like, it's got to be

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a lie. Why because there was a camera there.

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Yeah.

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Now that has eased up a bit now that cameras

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are everywhere because they're in pockets. But twenty years ago,

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like if anything happened in front of camera, I'd be like, nope,

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you know, I am almost certain that is fake. And

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they'd be like, how how do you know that. I'd

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be like, why'd they pull a camera out? Because they

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want to capture it. So now you have like there's

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a little bit more of a chance it was caught

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by accident because people are, you know, filming their melbow

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toast out in public. But because I meant it, because

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I'm speaking the truth, that film can't capture, you know.

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But it's the fact is when you're filming, especially when

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you're when you're making a movie. I now, while I

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haven't made a feature film on thirty five millimeters film

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or sixteen millimeter film, I've shot on celluloid. And but

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when you shoot a movie, you know, a narrative feature,

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you're sitting down with a camera and you're choosing lenses,

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and you're choosing where to put the light, and then

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you're choosing where to put the camera. Those are all

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lies because you can't you literally can't tell the truth.

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There's no way. Yeah, I mean you could say, well

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place the camera at eye level? Whose eye level? See

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what I mean? But I mean that's really like because

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they'll even say, like, you know, well, if you put

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the camera navel up, you know, you cause a difference

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in the way people perceive whatever who's navel because it

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still could be too high or too low. Like it's

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all all those elements come together to tell you how

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you're going to feel about what you're seeing. Yeah, that's

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the basics of photography. The moment you put the moment

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you point a light at something. I heard this once

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somebody said, the moment you point a light at something,

459
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:58.359
you're now lying, and I was like, I'd have to

460
00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:00.599
go on further than that. The moment you have somebody

461
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.279
stand differently in the sun for a photo, you're lying,

462
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.000
Like it's all lying anyway. So so my point is, though,

463
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:10.759
that there's this conception of the good old days and

464
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:14.559
the glory days, and this idea that life is was

465
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:19.319
like that back then, and I believe that when we

466
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:24.400
feel that way now, that is nostalgia. And nostalgia can

467
00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:27.240
be pretty dumb, and nostalgia can be can be damaging

468
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.200
sometimes or whatever, But most of the time nostalgia is

469
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:33.000
just harmless fun, you know, like you know, like shooting

470
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.319
heroin in your toenails or punching the stranger in the dark,

471
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:40.759
you know, the victimless crime. But but no, nostalgia's whatever,

472
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:42.759
you know a lot of I mean, I love nostalgia,

473
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:43.839
but this room is full.

474
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:47.920
Of like, yeah, as we look at all you're nostalgia.

475
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:50.519
Hey man, I mean, nostalgia's a hell of drug.

476
00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:51.400
Yeah yeah.

477
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:54.000
But my point is that if you didn't live in

478
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.119
the twenties and you believe it was like the movies,

479
00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:00.200
you're nostalgic, maybe a little deluded in a cute way.

480
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:05.000
When you're Pearl, who I think sees her world and

481
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:09.920
her life like that, you're not right in the brain.

482
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:13.799
And we get our first hint of that when she's

483
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:15.920
hanging out in the barn and looking at the animals

484
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:18.920
and then she sees a duck or I guess it

485
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.960
was a goose. She's a goose, and she just sticks

486
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.920
it with the like with a pitchfork, like it's nothing.

487
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:27.319
She's just goes like, oh, what are you doing here?

488
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:29.880
And then she sticks with the pitchfork, and then to

489
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:32.880
make it seem I guess, I guess maybe kind of normalized,

490
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.000
she takes the goose down to the water and feeds

491
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.599
it to the giant alligator out there. Because in X

492
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:42.359
there's also a giant alligat in there, and I did

493
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:46.079
check alligators in the wild live like fifty years. So

494
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.279
later on, when we see the alligator laid eggs, it's

495
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:51.880
possible that like literally one of those gators is the

496
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.680
gator and X because it's like, yeah, yes, yeah, fifty

497
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:59.000
sixty years later. So and and when alligators are well

498
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.759
fed and maintain the live to be eighty yeah, I

499
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:04.200
mean captivity, they can definitely it'll be eighty. So if

500
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:06.680
if she was consistently feeding them, they could live quite

501
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:09.160
a bit past fifty years. But anyway, so she feeds

502
00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:11.200
it to the alligator and we get our you know

503
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:17.160
pearl music as the freeze frame is just that alligator

504
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:20.200
biting this off of the pitchfork that she's feeding it to.

505
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:23.079
Feeding it to it also reminds me of like Lassie.

506
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:25.160
That's the other one I was thinking, Yeah, yeah, like

507
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:26.039
Lassie movies.

508
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:29.960
Huge sentimental swells were so common in TV and movies,

509
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.720
and Lastie was a movie first. Yeah yeah, yeah, that

510
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.359
movie's actually pretty good. So I grew up like in

511
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:39.640
the height of Lassie and Rin Tintin, so the TV shows,

512
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.920
so part of me feels like having her feed the

513
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:49.160
goose to the alligator makes you makes you almost go, oh, well,

514
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:50.240
you know farm stuff.

515
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:57.720
It does it. It creates a sense of normalcy for

516
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:04.079
her psychosis. Yes, I guess because because the whole movie

517
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:10.119
is playing with the unreliable narrator the whole entire time,

518
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:15.319
because we're seeing the whole entire world through Pearl's eyes,

519
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:22.079
and there's certain things like you like later on when

520
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:28.400
her mom denies the gift of a roast pig. I

521
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:32.279
feel like that it kind of plays with that expectation

522
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:36.240
because Pearl, you know, Pearl doesn't seem to understand why

523
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:41.039
her mom would deny that gift. So it kind of

524
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.000
the beginning her feeding the gator is kind of there

525
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:47.799
to help us sympathize with Oh, she's just like the

526
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:50.880
weird kid. She's the weird farm kid.

527
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.359
Well, there are plenty of them, you know. Well, and

528
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:56.000
so one thing, I well, you didn't grow up on

529
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.680
a literal farm raising things. You grew up a pharma

530
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:04.880
ja armadjacent Yeah. Yeah, nice tripal No, But I will

531
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:07.440
say I don't think that I don't think we have

532
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.640
an unreliable narrator in this because I don't think we

533
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.759
do see through Pearl's eyes. I think that we are

534
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.559
trying as the audience to see through Pearls eyes, and

535
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.039
it just gets harder and harder the further she she loses.

536
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:22.720
It does though.

537
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:25.960
That's what I mean, is like, is like eventually as

538
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.640
the observer, we can't ignore all the shit, you know,

539
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.720
like we just keep getting deeper and deeper into it.

540
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:35.920
And something you pointed out when we were watching it

541
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.440
is during the sequences where she's being you know, put

542
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:42.119
in her place by her parents or finding out, you know,

543
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:45.279
things aren't the way she hoped, it looks much more

544
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.759
like a traditional movie today. The colors are more naturalistic

545
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:53.440
and there's more shadows and darkness and to paint a picture.

546
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.319
Pearl lives in this little well. It's pretty sizable farm

547
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:03.599
in Texas called powder Keg Farm. Love the name, great name.

548
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:07.799
And one thing I noticed is there there's it's a

549
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.759
very big farm. There's a whole house for for hands,

550
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.880
and there's no hands anymore because economically things are getting

551
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:18.920
really rough on account of the damn Kaiser World War One. So,

552
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.359
but it's a running joke with my friends. I always

553
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.240
bring up the Kaiser so much. I think it's so

554
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.079
much funnier to be ben out of shape about World

555
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.240
War One, and really because nobody talks about Hitler and

556
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:32.799
Stalin and Mussolini and they're hilarious, sure, but like to

557
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.440
just lean into like the Kaiser, I don't know, it's

558
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.680
just it's just funny to me. So, but to paint

559
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:40.599
a picture of Pearl. She lives in this farm with

560
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:43.000
her mother and her father. Her mother is a German

561
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.960
immigrant who you know, has a very thick accent. She

562
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:50.039
speaks German in the home, and she is very you know,

563
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:56.920
disciplinarian obviously, and her dad is an invalid. He apparently

564
00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:59.440
got ill and it turned into a stroke, is what

565
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.119
it appears. He appears he had a stroke after having

566
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:04.119
I don't think that he actually had the Spanish flu.

567
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:06.680
I think he probably just got influenza and had a stroke.

568
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.519
People forget how dangerous the flu. I mean, still is

569
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:14.200
very dangerous for certain people, but it was extremely dangerous

570
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.359
back then, just regular flu let alone the Spanish flu

571
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:19.640
that they're all worrying about throughout the movie. So he's

572
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:26.119
confined to a chair, his face is half paralyzed, and

573
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:30.359
the mother is clearly trying to keep it all together,

574
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:35.400
while their daughter is prancing around dreaming of Hollywood and stuff,

575
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:40.759
while she kills small animals and shows all the signs

576
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:44.960
of being a sociopath, like just about every single sign

577
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:48.839
of being a sociopath. But she does have something to

578
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:52.160
live for, someone to live for, And we'll talk about

579
00:33:52.200 --> 00:34:09.519
him right after this. Pearl has a husband, Yeah, Harold, right, Harold,

580
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:10.360
how could you not know?

581
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:13.960
I wrote it down somewhere, but I have so many notes.

582
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:20.159
Howard Howard. I was wrong, Howard. So she has a

583
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:24.039
husband named Howard. But of course he's overseas fighting the

584
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:26.800
Kaiser as you as you have to, as one does

585
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.559
as you should. So he's not around right now, but

586
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.599
he's been writing her letters and they seem very sweet.

587
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:36.639
It seems like he does care for her very much. Yeah,

588
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:41.960
and she's annoyed. She really obviously wants him to come home.

589
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:42.920
Yeah.

590
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:46.440
So, and when we meet at some point relatively soon,

591
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:49.880
so we may as well just mention. Now. She runs

592
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:56.800
into hy Mitzi, that's her name, Mitzy. Mitzi's Howard's sister,

593
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:02.880
and Margaret Howard, He's mother. They come by at one

594
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.559
point to drop off a pig because times are tough,

595
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.920
and there are several references to the fact that her mother,

596
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:14.639
Pearl's mother, is you know, having to make sacrifices. They're

597
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:18.039
having to, you know, work very hard to feed themselves,

598
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:21.119
work very hard to keep the farm going. There's reference

599
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.480
to how many fewer animals there are because they can't

600
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:26.960
afford to feed them. Obviously, their dad's not working because

601
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:31.760
his invalid, and what can you do? You know. So

602
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:35.360
at that point when her when Pearls in laws come by,

603
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.320
they drop off a roast pig, which is a very

604
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:40.000
nice gesture to be like, here have some really like

605
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.360
high quality meat, like to enjoy for everybody. And the mother,

606
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:47.760
Pearl's mom is just like nope, or Ruth is Pearls

607
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:49.760
mother's name, It's just like nope.

608
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:51.440
Y, yeah, we don't.

609
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:55.639
We don't take charity, which I gotta say, I think

610
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:59.519
that one thing this movie is missing is the mentality

611
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.920
of deal with crazy. There are many scenes in this

612
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:04.840
film where I could have I think I could have

613
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.119
gotten out of it because I've dealt with some crazy

614
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:10.880
people in my life. I'm just being dead serious, Like

615
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.639
I remember I met this girl years ago. I didn't

616
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:16.320
date heror anything. I mean, like, but I just knew

617
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:18.800
this girl, and she started like flirting with me. I

618
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:20.960
was probably like twenty six, twenty seven, and she was

619
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.679
like hitting on me and stuff, and I noticed pretty quickly.

620
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:25.920
I was like, she ain't like all her dogs ain't barking.

621
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:29.559
I need to, you know, steer clear. So I did.

622
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.320
I got away. Well. Then she started hitting on a

623
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:34.719
friend of mine a year or two later or something,

624
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.480
and he like got freaked out. So he was like, I,

625
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.159
you know, want you whatever, and she started like harassing

626
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:43.719
him and like bugging him, and he was like what

627
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:45.199
do I do? And I was like, well, how did

628
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:47.880
you get out of this? You know? What did you do?

629
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:49.119
And he was like, well, I just told her like

630
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:51.000
I didn't want to. I didn't want to do it,

631
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:52.559
like I didn't want to see her. I didn't want

632
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.239
to do all this stuff. And I was like, dude,

633
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:57.760
that is not what you say. He was like, well

634
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.440
that's what I want. He's like, no, you you be busy.

635
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:05.239
I'm really sorry, like I've just been working so much

636
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:07.360
and da da da da, Like you know, I am sorry,

637
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.239
I'm not very good at finding time right now. You

638
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:16.719
slowly get out of there, and he was like, but

639
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:18.719
I feel like she'll just get madder or whatever. I

640
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:21.440
was like, when you run from a wild animal, it

641
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:27.239
chases you. When you walk away slowly, it just kind

642
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:28.960
of looks for something else to do.

643
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.800
Do not engage the pray reflex, That's the thing.

644
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:35.400
Yeah. So like, but I feel like there have been

645
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:38.199
multiple moments in this movie. There are multiple moments in

646
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:40.239
this movie where I've been like, man, I know how

647
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:42.800
to deal with that level of crazy and not just

648
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.199
like crazy whim. I'm not trying to be like that.

649
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.199
I mean, but although, yes, bitches be crazy right yeah,

650
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:52.519
but no, But like the mother, I've dealt with some

651
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:59.880
very intense older women family members. I've dealt with them, man,

652
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:02.239
that whole, Like, you know, we don't accept charity. That's

653
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:05.440
when you'd pull the whole. We're literally family. Our children

654
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:08.920
are married to each other. Yeah, Like, would you not

655
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:12.400
do something nice for your family? Like if your mother

656
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.079
lived down the road or your sister lived down the

657
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:18.519
road and they didn't have a lot to eat and

658
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:22.159
you thought they deserved something special, wouldn't you do it?

659
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.159
If if you had the ability, Yeah, that would have

660
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:26.840
broken her, you know. And then if that doesn't work,

661
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:28.480
that's when you used to start bringing up the Bible too.

662
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:30.480
You just say like, well, in the Bible it says

663
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:32.360
that we would never you know, blah blah blah and

664
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:35.760
waste not, want not and dah dah dah dah. Anyway,

665
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:37.800
I'm good at dealing with those kinds of people, I am.

666
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:42.599
I'm good at dealing with the bullheaded people. So uh. Anyway,

667
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:47.719
we get the sense that that Howard is from money. Yeah,

668
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.880
and we find out as the movie progresses that he

669
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:54.639
became a farm hand at Pearl's family's farm and that's

670
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:58.320
how he met Pearl and they fell in love, and

671
00:38:58.360 --> 00:38:59.920
then he ends up going to fight in the Kai.

672
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:03.559
We also hear that his sister believes he went to

673
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.880
fight in World War One in part to spite his dad,

674
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.039
because his dad didn't want him to go over season

675
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:13.679
fight and it even offered to pay a doctor to

676
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.760
write him a note to get him out of get

677
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:17.760
him out of the draft, and he was like nope,

678
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:21.280
I'm gonna go and do my YadA YadA. So there's

679
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:25.519
a lot going on there, and it should be mentioned.

680
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:29.840
So Pearl's farm, while yeah, they're in rough shape, it

681
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:33.760
is still a nice farm. The barn, The barn is gorgeous,

682
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:38.079
it's painted, it's it's maintained, their home is maintained. They're

683
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:41.679
eating dinners and they're not just eating you know, porridge

684
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:43.320
and wheat, their.

685
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:45.760
Good healthy food.

686
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:48.280
Well it's on the cheaper, it's on the poorer side.

687
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:50.480
I mean, they're they're eating a lot of corn and

688
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.119
a lot of potatoes, but they're not going hungry by

689
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:56.880
any stretch of the imagination. And that's worth mentioning because

690
00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:01.280
it's a very hard life. So with that all being said,

691
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.360
it's very clear Pearl is the only person her mother

692
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:07.639
can count on, and her mother knows her daughter pretty well.

693
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:11.119
So we're already starting to wonder, But so far we're

694
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:14.840
getting the vibe everybody's just so mean to Pearl, like

695
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:17.400
all Pearl has as a dream.

696
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:20.559
Just is not fair.

697
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.280
So then she takes a bath after her she does

698
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:27.840
gives her dad a sponge bath, which apparently is the

699
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:29.159
you know, because they don't want to waste the hot

700
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.199
water is She gives her dad a sponge bath, and

701
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:33.559
then she jumps in that tub and uses the water up,

702
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.159
and she gives them some medicine which is almost certainly

703
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:43.360
morphine syrup. Oh yeah, and her mom mentions to her like,

704
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.119
I need you to go to the store tomorrow to

705
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:50.079
get your your father more medicine. So this is where

706
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.519
we start to actually know who Pearl is. Because Pearl

707
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:57.199
hops on her bicycle and she rides into town, and

708
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.719
town is just a bunch of people, you know, in

709
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:04.920
their masks because the Spanish flu has begun. And she

710
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.559
goes and gets the medicine. And then what does she do?

711
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:10.000
Right when she's done getting the.

712
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:15.400
Medicine, She takes the change, goes to the movies, pops

713
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.800
open the medicine and takes a jay glug.

714
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:24.320
A really big glug of morphine. Cheek full of morphine.

715
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.000
And that's something I want to point out is she's

716
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:31.400
acting like a child. But she has to be twenty four, yeah,

717
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:33.679
maybe even a little older. She has to be in

718
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:38.480
her mid twenties because she's not a kid. She dresses

719
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:40.559
like a kid and acts like a kid in that

720
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.119
cutesye way, that like what's her name? That played Dorothy

721
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.039
and the Wizard of Oz. Wow, how quickly they all

722
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:49.639
forget you.

723
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:54.679
It's right on the tip of my nose, right there.

724
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:57.280
God, wh why do you hate her? Why are you

725
00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:59.440
so mean? Why did poor Judy Garland.

726
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:00.199
Oh god.

727
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.920
So. But my point is, and I think that it's

728
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:06.920
it's poignant and worth mentioning. When she takes that big

729
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:10.760
gulp of her dad's medicine, which is a very adult

730
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.599
and kind of wrong thing to do. I mean, an

731
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.239
adult would drink alcohol, or I mean in this era,

732
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.400
especially in the nineteen eighteen, an adult would drink alcohol

733
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.840
or well, because I don't think prohibition had happened yet. Yeah,

734
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:28.079
so would drink, would drink alcohol, or smoke cigarettes or

735
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:33.079
chew tobacco or any of those things. She's stealing her

736
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:37.840
daddy's medicine because it makes you feel good. Yeah. But

737
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.400
when she takes that gulp of it in the movie theater,

738
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:43.880
when you mentioned the cheek fils, that's what my point is.

739
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:48.159
She drinks it like a little kid, because little kids,

740
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:49.960
you know, that's like the little kid thing is there.

741
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:53.119
They fill their cheeks up, yeah, and then they whatever.

742
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:54.920
So yeah, when she fills her mouth up, her cheeks

743
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:56.679
get real puffy and then they puff down and she

744
00:42:56.760 --> 00:43:01.440
drinks it down. So she's drinking it like friggin' like

745
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:05.199
a six year old. Yeah. Like see, another man, I'm

746
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:07.400
not doing good with these old timey people like the

747
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:09.599
chick who saying the little girl who sang like big

748
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:15.519
top lollipop. U go, Annie, Wow, you don't know nothing, do.

749
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.519
I really don't. I'm bad at this.

750
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:21.519
I'm glad that Annie came up as the twenty fourteen

751
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.039
one first when I googled it, because I love that.

752
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:25.719
I love that twenty fourteen.

753
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:27.480
Ye I got, And there was the there was the

754
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:33.679
whole VHS collection, and there was the late night commercial

755
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:38.400
for the collection of movies for the Little Girl.

756
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:42.000
I yeah, I feel bad because I'm not remembering the

757
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.480
chick who sang good ship lollipop. Maybe it's because I'm insane,

758
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:49.599
but my point is, yeah, it's very like old ditchy

759
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.079
timey stuff. But she is acting like a child during

760
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.679
a time of very serious things going on, like World

761
00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:00.320
War One, the Spanish flew, her family's economic struggles, her

762
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:05.760
father's invalidism. Those are all serious, serious things. Yeah, and

763
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:09.760
she's just at the movies, drinking medicine. And we all

764
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:11.559
need to be able to, you know, blow off some

765
00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:13.679
steam and have a release valve, especially when we have

766
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.119
a lot of responsibilities. But she doesn't even have that

767
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:17.360
many responsibilities.

768
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.239
Yeah, like her chores like she acts like her chores

769
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:23.639
are a big deal, but they don't even have that

770
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:25.239
many animals to take care of.

771
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:29.320
No, well, and I mean she just does what her

772
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:31.559
mom tells her to do. Yeah, you know, it's not

773
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.039
like it's the biggest job in the world. So, but

774
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:38.000
some other interesting things happen while she's out of town

775
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:40.880
or out on the town, and then some really weird

776
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:42.880
things happen on our way back, and we'll talk about

777
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:57.480
all of those right after this. For those of you

778
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.719
who are yelling at your iPhone the entire commercial break.

779
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:04.400
Sureley Temple is the name I was trying to remember,

780
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.599
ironic being that it's my favorite drink that I couldn't

781
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.679
for the you know, to save my life, I couldn't

782
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:13.559
remember the name Shirley Temple. But that's kind of what

783
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:15.239
it felt like she was kind of being. She was

784
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.199
being like the little ragamuffin kid characters.

785
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:22.239
Even her little overalls and everything.

786
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.719
Yeah, I mean that's farm kid stuff too. But no,

787
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.280
you're not wrong though, And she's got the pigtails and stuff.

788
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:31.119
And there's a lot of reasons that may not be

789
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:35.239
entirely on her for her having her development arrested. One

790
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.960
of which may be that as we progress, we realized

791
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:41.519
that her mother totally sees there's something very wrong with

792
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:44.559
her and is trying to deal with it. So why

793
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:46.840
wouldn't you kind of keep her as a child because

794
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:49.760
you need to keep her under control and children are

795
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.239
meant to be kept under control or whatever you want

796
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.480
to look at it. So as she's leaving the show,

797
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:57.119
she meets the projectionist.

798
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:01.840
Yeah, he's a nice guy, comes out, and he offers

799
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:07.079
her a cigarette and gets to talk in and he

800
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:13.159
gives her a one frame from the movie that she watched,

801
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.480
as you know, kind of like a gift and a

802
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:21.960
show of friendship. And he tells her that he, you know,

803
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.400
he pretty much lives there and she can come back

804
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:29.599
anytime and just knock on the door and he'll, you know,

805
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:33.159
come out and say hi. And she seems pretty smitten

806
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:39.400
with him pretty immediately. And it's interesting because we've seen

807
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:45.039
her fantasize about Howard before, but she doesn't seem very

808
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:49.119
like even though she seems excited for him to get

809
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:53.039
back home when she fantasizes about him, she doesn't seem

810
00:46:53.039 --> 00:47:00.280
that particularly warm toward Howard. But this guy she's pretty

811
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:01.159
excited about.

812
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:04.199
Him well immediately, and he's played by David corn Sweat,

813
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:10.199
who became Superman yeah shortly after this film worth mentioning. Yeah,

814
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:13.119
he's basically being very friendly with her. She tells him

815
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.320
about her life, and I want to say I felt like,

816
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:19.000
and please feel free to jump in with this as

817
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:23.360
the female in the room. I felt like he wasn't

818
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:26.079
coming on super strong or being super creepy in that moment.

819
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:29.400
He was being friendly and just kind of feeling her out. Yeah, like,

820
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:33.000
what's this girl's deal? Yeah, even though he's like a

821
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:35.320
I would say he's like a smidge of a sleeze

822
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:37.400
as the movie progresses, I don't think he's like a

823
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.280
dangerous sleeze or anything. He's just a guy wants to

824
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:43.480
have some fun. Yeah, that was the vibe I got. Yeah,

825
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.280
because it would have been very easy for him to

826
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:48.440
go full creepo and I felt like they didn't do that,

827
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:51.400
which is nice because that makes him more complicating, complicated,

828
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:52.079
and more interesting.

829
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:52.880
It really does.

830
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:57.039
So as she's riding home, we have probably the biggest

831
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:05.320
Wizard of Oz the homage in that she sees a scarecrow. Yeah,

832
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.119
and why don't you talk about I mean, like what

833
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:09.039
did you get from this sequence?

834
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:17.840
So she's riding along and the wind takes the film

835
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:21.119
clip from her and she tries to find it. She

836
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:25.559
and she finds a scarecrow, and she climbs up onto

837
00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:29.519
the pole that the scarecrow's on, and it starts out

838
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:37.000
as a like kind of dance routine, and it quickly

839
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:47.280
becomes something much more uncomfortable. So she she's dancing around

840
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:54.840
this clearing in the corn with this scarecrow, and she

841
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:57.559
kind of topples to the ground with it, and she's

842
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:01.480
sitting and laughing, and then she gets on top of it,

843
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:06.840
and she's like straddling it, and as she's looking at it,

844
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:12.039
it for just a brief moment, looks like a man's face,

845
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:16.039
and it kind of looks like the projectionist's face. And

846
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:20.440
she screams at it, I'm married, and then I have

847
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:24.920
a husband, and then she starts making out with it,

848
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:30.800
and then she very sexually is just grinding up against

849
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:37.880
it and moaning, and we start to see just how

850
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:44.679
she's she's clearly an adult stuck in this arrest, like

851
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:47.920
you said, a state of arrested development, but she's a

852
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:53.199
very sexually aware person. But she's not fully sexually developed.

853
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:58.320
It seems like this weird kind of taboo thing, and

854
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:02.239
and we really see that in the scene with the scarecrow.

855
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:06.159
Well, the scarecrow keeps morphing into the projectionist while she's

856
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:09.519
on top of him, which I think leans into the

857
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:12.159
idea that she's just kind that she's not sure what

858
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.559
to do with these feelings. Yeah, you know, because she

859
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.119
has a husband and but he, like they've not really

860
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.800
been able to be together because he pretty much went

861
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.519
off to the war the moment they got married, So

862
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:29.360
she doesn't really understand much. She's just kind of just

863
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:32.679
kind of playing it by ear. Yeah, But then she

864
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.679
goes home mm and things get way less weird and

865
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:38.599
creepy from there for Pearl, thank goodness.

866
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:43.599
Yeah, it's just a totally normal, totally normal movie from

867
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:44.400
here on out.

868
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:49.199
Right. So they're having dinner and her mother asks where

869
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:52.280
the rest of the change is, because you know, she

870
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:57.039
gave her money for the medicine, and Pearl says, you know, I,

871
00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:59.400
you know, I spent or she said, the eight cents

872
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:03.079
is missing, and she says, I bought some candy because

873
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:06.000
I was, you know, hungry from the ride or whatever.

874
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:07.960
And the mother just leans over and just takes the

875
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:09.960
bowl of soup away from in front of her and

876
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:13.719
just says, well, that was your dinner then, and gives this,

877
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.679
you know, big speech about I mean not a big speech,

878
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:19.400
but a pretty intense speech about I spent all day

879
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:21.840
making this food for you and you didn't, you know,

880
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:24.079
and you were too selfish. You don't even get to

881
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:26.039
eat it. And she's like, but mom, I'm hungry. I

882
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:27.639
had to ride all the way there and back and

883
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:29.599
it does seem like it was really far of a

884
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:33.119
bicycle out of town. And her mom just says, like,

885
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:35.519
you go to your you know, you do not eat now,

886
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.599
you can have it in the morning. And I thought

887
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.519
that was, you know, an interesting exchange, but it's it's true,

888
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.880
though she shouldn't be playing around, and she mentions at

889
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.320
one point, the mother mentions that the reason that they

890
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:52.800
are doing well enough, the reason they have enough food

891
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:54.880
in their stomachs and all this is because they are

892
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:59.559
careful and they're mindful, unlike other people who are you

893
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:03.079
knowering through this whole change of the economy, because they

894
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:06.519
don't accept that you have to live differently. And I

895
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:13.119
am sure her mother has had her experiences in hardship. Yeah,

896
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.679
you know, likely leading to her leaving Europe to come

897
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:20.000
to the United States, and we'll dive into more of

898
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:21.559
that right after this.

899
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:39.519
So after that, Pearl is kind of fed up with

900
00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:44.679
being trapped at the house. One night, she steals one

901
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:49.159
of her mom's dresses, which is kind of established at

902
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:51.159
the start of the film is one of the like

903
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.920
naughty things that she does. She steals her mom's clothes,

904
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.440
her nice clothes, and dresses up in it. So one night,

905
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:03.679
she steals one of her mom's real nice dresses, a beautiful,

906
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:10.039
beautiful red dress, and sneaks out of the house and

907
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:13.000
bikes all the way to town, goes to the theater

908
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:18.360
and beats up with projectionist. He takes her up to

909
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:23.960
the booth, and we kind of realized that he probably

910
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:28.239
does actually live out of the projection booth because there's

911
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:32.880
a like cot that's been set up, and she even asks,

912
00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:36.280
I don't know what that was. She even asks him

913
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.239
if he lives there, and he says, well, I'm he

914
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:41.320
What does he say, I'm kind of what they would

915
00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:42.199
call bohemian.

916
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.480
Well, he says, I don't really live I'd like to

917
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:48.239
think I don't really live anywhere. I'm what the what

918
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:50.440
the I can't remember what he said, like the hi

919
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:53.079
the something or other people call bohemian.

920
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:58.159
Yeah, so it's it's a really cool introduction to him.

921
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:02.360
But he gets out a role of film and he

922
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:05.039
starts showing her a film. He says he got it

923
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:08.880
from France, and of course she's fascinated because she seems,

924
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:15.679
you know, she's she's obsessed with escapism and getting out,

925
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:18.679
not just out of her home or out of her town,

926
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:22.199
but out of America, like she just wants to travel

927
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:24.360
the world. So she's really fascinated.

928
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:27.000
Well, she wasn't even interested in leaving America until he

929
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:30.119
told her Europe. And that's she never once says anything

930
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:35.440
about leaving America until the projectionist mentions Europe and how yea.

931
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:39.119
Europe would be the big thing. No, you're absolutely right.

932
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:44.280
But he starts showing her this film and it's it's

933
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:48.719
a stag film, an early porno, I guess. And you

934
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:51.440
pointed out when we were watching the credits that it

935
00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:55.320
was an actual film from the Kinsey Institute, which I

936
00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:56.400
think is interesting.

937
00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:59.000
I mean, yeah, they it's from France, but it was

938
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:02.880
kept it was in the collection of old films.

939
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:07.599
But so that's that's the conversation where we do start

940
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:12.679
to see her escapism and how deep it runs, because

941
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:14.840
he does mention to her, you know, he got it

942
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:16.960
in Europe. He thinks that she would be a good

943
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:21.480
performer in Europe. And that's when she really gets obsessed

944
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:23.719
with this idea, like she does need to get out

945
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:30.519
not just of her farm, her home, but out of America.

946
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:36.639
And I mean, she just adds to the fantasy she has. Yeah,

947
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.880
because he mentions, he doesn't even say, he just says,

948
00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:42.239
in Europe, he could be anything you want. That's all

949
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.519
he says. He doesn't say, like you could be an actress,

950
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:45.719
or you could be a dance or anything. He just says,

951
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:46.840
you can be anything you want there.

952
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:52.039
Yeah. But then she says something kind of alludes to

953
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:58.039
the darkness that's festering in her when she mentions that

954
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:01.039
she doesn't think that her life will get better until

955
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:02.199
her parents are dead.

956
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:05.400
Well, she says she can't leave them, she can't leave them,

957
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:08.440
and then she literally says, like sometimes I I just

958
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:10.559
wish they'd die. They go ahead and die.

959
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:14.480
Yeah, And he seems a little put off by that.

960
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:18.079
But not. He doesn't let onto it. He's not like perturbed.

961
00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:20.679
Well, she had told him that she was caring for

962
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:23.920
an invalid father and you know, made it clear that

963
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:26.199
her mother is a bit difficult and stuff like that.

964
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:28.599
So I think he just tried to write it off

965
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:31.840
as blowing off steam, just saying things to get them

966
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:34.599
off your mind, because we all have those thoughts that

967
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:39.320
aren't really appropriate. But sometimes you've done yeah, you burn out.

968
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:41.519
Yeah, you just got to get it out of there,

969
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:46.840
out of your mind. So that's kind of Yeah, that's

970
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:52.000
kind of an interesting point where we see how much

971
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:57.320
Pearl wants to escape, and we see her desire to

972
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:03.920
escape growing and transforming now that she's got more contact

973
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:06.840
with this guy, and now he's now that he's got

974
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.400
that idea in her head that, you know, Europe could

975
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:10.239
be the place to go.

976
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:13.280
Well, and he's he's mentioned he's going there. That's the

977
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:14.400
next place he's going.

978
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:15.159
Mm hmmm.

979
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:18.360
So that's got it in her mind that maybe somehow

980
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:20.199
she could hitch her wagon.

981
00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:23.840
Yeah he could. He could. He could be the one

982
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:27.639
to take her away from all of this, since Howard didn't.

983
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:33.239
And that's it becomes more and more obvious that that's

984
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:37.159
what she wanted out of Howard, was to get her

985
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:41.400
off the farm. And we start to see how much

986
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:45.079
she resents Howard that he loved the farm life and

987
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:47.760
wanted to stay there and then he left her there,

988
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:52.559
and then he left her there, which seems pretty cruel

989
00:57:52.719 --> 00:58:00.280
to her. It really does. So the next day is

990
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:05.559
kind of a big thing because Pearl really seems to

991
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:10.760
have reached a breaking point, and so she takes her

992
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:16.559
dad in his wheelchair and takes him out to the

993
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:22.119
pond the lake where the gator is and takes him

994
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:26.000
to the pier and just starts talking about how this

995
00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:30.000
is no way to live and things will, you know,

996
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:32.639
things will be so much better for her now, and

997
00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:37.039
she gets ready to seemingly push him into the water

998
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.519
when her mom comes up, when Ruth comes up behind

999
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:41.920
her and you know, stops her.

1000
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.159
Well, and she's talking to him like she's telling him

1001
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:48.360
like I'm gonna do this, you know, because I love you,

1002
00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:51.119
you know, like I just I couldn't imagine abandoning you.

1003
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:56.239
And earlier on she was like pinching him in early scenes,

1004
00:58:56.440 --> 00:58:57.199
she was pinching she.

1005
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.639
Like almost strangled him to death. Well, start to strangle

1006
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:03.880
him one time. Yeah, she cut pension him and then.

1007
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:05.519
Well she would just ask him like, are you even

1008
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:10.000
in there anymore? So yeah, and luckily he gets away.

1009
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:12.960
You know, the mother seems to know what's going on,

1010
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:18.000
and she's very afraid of Pearl. Also, earlier we missed

1011
00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:21.199
mentioning or will you miss it, but you know we

1012
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:24.960
didn't mention. But when Mitzi came by again, she brought

1013
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:26.199
up this audition.

1014
00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:27.639
Oh yeah, the audition.

1015
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:31.039
There's a troop trying to find new dancers all over

1016
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:35.280
the state of Texas, and they both agree that they'll

1017
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:40.719
go together to audition against their parents wishes because both

1018
00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:42.639
of the One of the reasons the Pearl mom doesn't

1019
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:44.480
want her leaving is also because she doesn't want her

1020
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:48.480
to get sick, and Mitzi's mother also doesn't want them

1021
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:53.480
to as as Mitsi puts it, get the germ, what

1022
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:54.159
a quint.

1023
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:54.800
Way to put it.

1024
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:58.519
And when she asks Ruth for permission, it does not

1025
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:03.039
it doesn't not go well. No, she tells her she

1026
01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:06.400
can't and she says, well, you can't control me and

1027
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:11.280
her mother, you know. Yeah, it's uh, it starts to

1028
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:12.599
move really really fast.

1029
01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:13.119
It does.

1030
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:16.800
It does because Ruth is confronting her at dinner about

1031
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:19.760
knowing she goes to the movies and tell her basically like,

1032
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:21.559
I know the things you're doing. I know the things

1033
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:25.000
you're doing when you think no one is looking. And

1034
01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:29.320
she tells Pearl like, I know you're going to fail,

1035
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.760
and I'm afraid of you. Basically, Yeah, she says that

1036
01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:37.239
to her, because Pearl starts really towards this point in

1037
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:40.280
the movie really harping on I don't want to become

1038
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:44.159
my mother. Yeah, she starts basically saying that, constantly saying like,

1039
01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:46.719
my mother's miserable. You know, I don't want to be

1040
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:49.679
my mother. My mother's just this dodgy, angry woman who

1041
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:51.639
did this and that and this and that. And there

1042
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:53.599
was a scene where you know her mother was crying

1043
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.639
at night, Yeah, which and rightfully so, I mean, her

1044
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:58.880
husband's an invalid. It's horrible what happened to him. It's

1045
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:02.320
horrible how they're having to survive. She's reading in the

1046
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:05.639
newspaper every day about hundreds of thousands of dead Germans

1047
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:08.320
because that was her home and now they're at war.

1048
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:09.559
Yeah.

1049
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:12.320
So there's a lot that you you know, you feel

1050
01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:13.679
really bad for Ruth.

1051
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:17.519
Over you you really do. And I think that Ruth's

1052
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:21.760
monologue when she's she's talking about you know, she sees

1053
01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:24.880
the darkness and Pearl, and she she starts getting really

1054
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:27.199
intense and she talks about like, do you think this

1055
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:30.480
is what I wanted? Because she she hears what Pearl

1056
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:34.800
says about her, about herself and her you know, she

1057
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:37.360
hears Pearl saying like, I'm afraid of ending up like

1058
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:39.400
my mother. I'm afraid I'm going to end up miserable

1059
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:41.800
like my mother. And Ruth is like, do you think

1060
01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:44.559
I wanted this for myself? Do you think that I

1061
01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:47.280
wanted you know, I married this man. I wanted to

1062
01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:49.920
be his wife. I didn't want to be his mother.

1063
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:53.840
And and you know, she says, well, what about me,

1064
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:56.320
Like your husband's gone off to war. What if I

1065
01:01:56.440 --> 01:01:58.880
just kill my husband and then we can run off together?

1066
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:01.159
Ye off again, we can both go audition to be

1067
01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:03.920
in the dance. And she's holding a knife to her

1068
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:07.000
husband and he's, you know, sitting there. He's clearly aware

1069
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:08.320
of what's going on here. Yeatre scared.

1070
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:11.239
It props to that actor too, because, like he does

1071
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:14.440
an amazing job of doing someone who is totally totally

1072
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.639
cognitively aware, but is just paraplegic.

1073
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:20.760
Yeah. Yeah. And and before all of this, I mean,

1074
01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:22.760
there have been multiple times where Ruth was trying to

1075
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:25.559
give Pearl these like bits of wisdom, like say, you know,

1076
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:28.559
you need to be happy with what you have, not

1077
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:29.800
hoping and stuff.

1078
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:33.000
Yeah, what is it? Sometimes it's not about it's not

1079
01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:36.519
about sometimes getting what you want isn't what you get.

1080
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:37.800
It's making the most.

1081
01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:41.079
Of what you have what someone's getting.

1082
01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:42.599
That's what I typed down.

1083
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.840
Sometimes well the last part makes sense, yeah, uh, being

1084
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:48.320
making the most of what you have and that's a

1085
01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:50.920
but that's those are solid words to live by. So

1086
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:54.360
but unfortunately, speaking of live by, things are about to

1087
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:58.400
get a lot worse and not at all better right

1088
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:15.559
after this. So we're back and now that Ruth has

1089
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:18.719
kind of went off on Pearl and told her that

1090
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:24.199
she's noticed her, you know, that she's mentally not quite right,

1091
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:28.480
and tells her she's not special, she's all these these

1092
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:32.599
awful things. And I believe she says that Pearl is

1093
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:34.920
like her biggest failure, that like looking at her every

1094
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:40.960
day is the worst you know thing, which is pretty harsh.

1095
01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:44.360
They start fighting at like physically and Pearl shoves her

1096
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:47.639
mother against the hearth, and at that moment, her dress

1097
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:53.119
catches on fire from the fireplace, and in Pearl's defense,

1098
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:57.639
she tries to extinguish the fire by pouring It looked

1099
01:03:57.639 --> 01:03:58.639
like a bolt of the soup.

1100
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:01.039
Bowl yeah on her. Yeah, it was like the pot

1101
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:04.960
full of boiling corn or something.

1102
01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:09.639
Something like that. Yeah. So she doubses her and it

1103
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:13.519
puts her out. But she's already very badly burned and

1104
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:18.280
barely able to function. So what does she do. She

1105
01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:22.480
drags her into the basement, locks her down there, gets

1106
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:27.000
on her bicycle, and leaves her dad alone at the

1107
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:33.920
for all of that, and she had Actually I think

1108
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:36.480
I got that wrong. I think she leaves in the morning.

1109
01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:41.880
In the morning, she goes to the Oh no, no, Yeah,

1110
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:44.920
so she runs out there. The projectionist opens his door

1111
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:48.119
and she just leaps into his arms and they make

1112
01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:55.079
mad passionate love as she starts dropping red flags basically

1113
01:04:55.159 --> 01:05:00.800
every direction, mentioning, you know, them both going to up and.

1114
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:02.880
Yeah, things will be so much better now.

1115
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:05.320
And and like I said about how I feel like

1116
01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:08.239
he's he's like not much of a creep like earlier on,

1117
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:10.519
like when she left after he showed her the stag stuff,

1118
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:12.840
which is a creepy, creeper thing to do. I mean,

1119
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:17.039
they're both adults, but whatever. When she rejects him, he

1120
01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:19.079
doesn't like do anything on and say all right, well,

1121
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:22.360
you know, you know, help us see around, you know. Yeah.

1122
01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:24.800
So now when she's saying stuff, he's just kind of

1123
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:26.679
trying to be polite. I guess he's just you know,

1124
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:30.239
listening and yeah, yeah, we'll see. So that he agrees

1125
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:35.239
to drive her home and help her get ready for

1126
01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:40.960
this big dance audition. Yeah, And the moment they get there,

1127
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:44.079
she walks into the house and realizes that she just

1128
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:47.000
left her father there, and she feels awful.

1129
01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:47.199
You know.

1130
01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:50.280
She tries to clean him up real quick and keeps

1131
01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:51.440
apologizing to him.

1132
01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:54.239
She's, oh, I'll make it all better. I've just got

1133
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:58.320
to I've just got h I've just got company, you know.

1134
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:01.199
She's you know, says, I've just scott company right now,

1135
01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:03.440
So I'll take care of it once he leaves.

1136
01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.239
Yeah. So, well, she gets him cleaned up enough that

1137
01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:08.760
she can introduce him to her father, and he's, you know,

1138
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:12.119
very pleasant about it. He is a bit perturbed by

1139
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:16.599
the rotting pig that's just sitting on the porch will

1140
01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:18.880
I mean, her mother had left it there and now

1141
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:21.400
she's leaving it there. And in a lot of ways,

1142
01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:24.320
I feel like the pig was solid symbolism for Pearl,

1143
01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:28.519
just kind of rotting in place, just getting worse as

1144
01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:31.079
time goes on. The more she's alone, the more she's

1145
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:35.440
allowed to just kind of be whatever the hell she is.

1146
01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:41.599
And she takes him into the she takes him into

1147
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:45.679
the barn, shows him the animals, is talking about, you know,

1148
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:48.400
how she dances for them and how they're her.

1149
01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:50.320
First greatest audience.

1150
01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:53.440
Yeah, and uh, and now she's got to move forward

1151
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:55.639
because in show business, if you're not moving forward, you're

1152
01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:58.159
moving backward. Did She's just saying all the stuff and

1153
01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:00.679
he's like, oh yeah, and he's already weird out. Yeah.

1154
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:03.039
There was a part where they heard a sound.

1155
01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:06.760
Yeah, and so they're yeah, they're they're upstairs in her

1156
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:11.840
bedroom making out. And while they're making out in the bedroom,

1157
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:17.360
they start hearing this like really loud, violent thumping downstairs,

1158
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:21.559
and she wants to just ignore it, but he can't.

1159
01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:23.960
Like he's like, now we got it. This could be

1160
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:26.679
your dad, Like we've got to check on what's going on.

1161
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:29.000
And she's like, okay, fine, you can go check it out.

1162
01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.960
And he goes downstairs and he can hear thumping coming

1163
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:37.280
from the root cellar and as he's looking around, he

1164
01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:42.719
sees like rotting food on the table and or he

1165
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:46.519
had just food all over the place. And she finally

1166
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:48.760
just like jumps out from behind a corner. She's like,

1167
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:51.239
it's it's the dog. It's the family dog. The dog

1168
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:53.800
made a mess. I had to lock it in the

1169
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:57.679
root cellar, and that's that's what that noise is. So

1170
01:07:57.719 --> 01:08:01.280
while they're in the barn and she's talking about the

1171
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:03.960
animals and how she always performs for them, she's like, well,

1172
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:06.840
this is the cout Charlie, and this is the sheep.

1173
01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:10.079
You know, what's its name? And he starts to put

1174
01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:13.400
it together and he asks what about the dog, what's

1175
01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:17.199
the dog's name? And she just without even thinking, she's like, oh,

1176
01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:18.239
we don't even have a dog.

1177
01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:20.560
No, she doesn't say we don't even have a dog. Yeah,

1178
01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:22.640
if that would be her admitting no, she says, we

1179
01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:24.039
don't have a dog, Yeah, we don't have it. She

1180
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:25.920
doesn't remember thee yeah, yeah, she didn't.

1181
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:29.479
Even remember the lie. And then once she sees the

1182
01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:34.640
look on his face, she tries to course correct, but

1183
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:36.840
this is where I mean, this is where she completely

1184
01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:42.520
unravels because there's no more holding on to Like she

1185
01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:45.279
wants so bad to hold on to the reality, but

1186
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:50.039
how do you hold on to that? And she doesn't

1187
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:53.159
like the way he's looking at her, and he tries

1188
01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:57.079
so hard to let her down as gracefully as he can.

1189
01:08:57.199 --> 01:08:58.760
Well, he's just trying to leave, he tells her, like

1190
01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:01.199
he's got to get back to work. Yeah, And she's

1191
01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:03.600
just like, why are you being cold to me? Why

1192
01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:05.600
are you acting this way? What did you see? What

1193
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:06.479
did you see?

1194
01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:07.000
Like?

1195
01:09:07.039 --> 01:09:09.159
Why are you being this way? And it's it's terrifying,

1196
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:11.840
it really is, and a good example of like you

1197
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:14.880
got to know how to pacify somebody that scary. You need, Yeah,

1198
01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:16.840
you need Like when he'd say like, I'll see you around,

1199
01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:18.920
you know, I'll see us see around and she says when,

1200
01:09:19.079 --> 01:09:20.960
and he's like, well, it's a saying that was a

1201
01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:23.279
huge mistake. He should have he should have made plans

1202
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:25.439
to see her again. That way, he could have gotten

1203
01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:27.239
the town and called the police. That's what I would

1204
01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:29.119
have done. I would have been like I would have

1205
01:09:29.159 --> 01:09:30.760
been like, well, the last shows at nine thirty, why

1206
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:32.680
don't we meet up there? And you want to you

1207
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:34.439
want to meet me there? You want me to come

1208
01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:36.239
and pick you up. Maybe we could you know, this

1209
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:38.359
and that, this and that and then you get the police.

1210
01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:42.279
That's what I would do. But but no, So she's

1211
01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:46.560
I mean, she's like, you're you're gonna leave me? You you know,

1212
01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:50.439
why are you being this way? Like It's very scary

1213
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:55.479
and and very believable the way she's just erupting on him.

1214
01:09:56.039 --> 01:09:59.880
I mean, it really is a lot to take in.

1215
01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:04.520
And he tries to, you know, head to his car.

1216
01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:06.600
He's not running, you know, he's just like, I gotta go.

1217
01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:10.079
She comes up to him with a with a pitchfork

1218
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:15.319
and she sticks him real good. And that's not even

1219
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:19.119
the whole of it, because the car starts rolling away

1220
01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:23.439
and things are just gonna get messier from here. Right

1221
01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:39.319
after this, so she pushes the projectionist car into that

1222
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:44.640
big pond where the alligator named Theta I forgot the

1223
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:46.800
Theta eats his remains.

1224
01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:50.359
Yeah, and it's a great little setup because we do

1225
01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:55.079
see that old car for a shot in X just

1226
01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:58.720
in the pond at one point, Yeah, I believe so. So, yeah,

1227
01:10:58.760 --> 01:11:01.520
it's a great little, great look set up, sure well.

1228
01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:03.840
And obviously lots of cars. I mean, I don't know

1229
01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:05.920
if we saw a car that old in the pond next,

1230
01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:07.119
but we saw cars in that.

1231
01:11:07.399 --> 01:11:10.000
We did see cars. Maybe it wasn't that car, but I.

1232
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:12.520
I don't know if it was quite that old, but

1233
01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:14.399
we did see cars. So it's obvious that that's the

1234
01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:18.279
beginning of that. And at this point, Pearl gets dressed

1235
01:11:18.359 --> 01:11:22.239
in her mother's like really nice gown and then also

1236
01:11:22.479 --> 01:11:25.239
dresses her father up after cleaning him up, puts him

1237
01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:30.119
in a in a bow tie, and it becomes clear

1238
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:31.399
things are not going to be okay.

1239
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:37.720
No, there's a there's a great little thing where, you know,

1240
01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:42.520
her dad is paralyzed and he can't speak and everything,

1241
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:46.760
but there's a little canary in the house, and the

1242
01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:50.119
canary like, you know, chirps and sings and everything, and

1243
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:54.680
it's almost like a nice little indicator of the dad

1244
01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:59.239
state of mind if you pay attention. So there's this

1245
01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:02.960
scene after she's changed and she's given her dad a

1246
01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:06.119
sponge bath and she's gotten him changed. They're in the

1247
01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:11.960
family room together and the canary is chirping, and as

1248
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:15.600
Pearl is talking and talking about how my life must

1249
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:18.600
be so terrible for him, and she knows that he's

1250
01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:23.560
going to look down upon her so kindly now that

1251
01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:26.439
she's going to do such great things, and she gets

1252
01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:29.880
a pillowcase and gets ready, ready to smother him, and

1253
01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:33.439
the canary just gets more and more agitated, its squawking

1254
01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:38.359
louder and louder, and I just love the I love

1255
01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:41.000
the way that they used the canary to kind of

1256
01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:44.840
give the dad a voice a little bit. I thought

1257
01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:48.520
that was kind of cool. Okay, yeah, so yeah, she

1258
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:52.680
kills her dad and then well we don't see it,

1259
01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:56.079
we don't see it, but she grabs a pillowcase and

1260
01:12:56.079 --> 01:13:01.199
she says, you are loved, and then puts the pillowcase

1261
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:05.439
and we kind of cut away. Yeah, but then she

1262
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:08.279
goes down to the root seller to check on her mom,

1263
01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:12.039
and I thought it was great that she Her mom's

1264
01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:15.439
just like barely, you know, still kind of they're kind

1265
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:19.960
of clinging to life. And Pearl gets the chance to

1266
01:13:20.039 --> 01:13:24.319
repeat the line about making her remember what it felt like,

1267
01:13:24.520 --> 01:13:26.960
because that shame was what she felt like every time

1268
01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:30.239
I look at you, and then pushes her down the

1269
01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:34.920
stairs to like kill her, and then it's time for

1270
01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:39.079
the audition. Now that she's free, of course, of all

1271
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:44.279
her responsibilities, it's time to go to the church audition.

1272
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:47.760
And I love this because the music has become so

1273
01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:55.000
overwhelming and ominous and blaring, and it's great because the

1274
01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:58.079
you know, it's it's set in Texas, and so you've

1275
01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:01.760
got this church just in the middle of nowhere on

1276
01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:07.239
like a prairie, and everyone's in like pretty dull, drab

1277
01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:11.800
colors except Pearl, who's in that bright garish.

1278
01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:15.600
Well, everybody's in blue or white, yeah, for the most part,

1279
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:17.760
and she's in red. Yeah, they're all the color The

1280
01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:20.880
only colors that are really apparent are blue, white, green,

1281
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:24.800
and Pearl's dress is red and the door to the

1282
01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:26.000
side of the church is red.

1283
01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:31.920
Yeah. So yeah, she's there with Mitzy and uh, they're

1284
01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:35.159
kind of talking about their plans of what they're going

1285
01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:37.960
to do, you know, if they get selected, and.

1286
01:14:37.840 --> 01:14:40.680
As they're doing so, they're getting interrupted by women leaving

1287
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:43.399
the audition and varying degrees. Well, some of them are

1288
01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:45.680
just a little upset, but one of them is like sobbing.

1289
01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:48.119
As the line moves forward.

1290
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:51.840
Yeah, and as the As the line kind of gets

1291
01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:56.880
up there, Pearl just says, I have to win, and

1292
01:14:56.920 --> 01:14:59.359
Mitzy laughs and she's like, oh, I don't think you

1293
01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:02.319
meant to say that, because that is like kind of

1294
01:15:02.399 --> 01:15:03.359
rude to say.

1295
01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:04.520
Yeah, I don't think you meant to say that.

1296
01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:08.560
Out loud, and Pearl just says again, no, I have

1297
01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:13.279
to win. And as they get closer, Mitzy has a

1298
01:15:13.319 --> 01:15:15.840
moment where she gets really nervous and she's like, change,

1299
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:18.279
you know, switch spots with me so that you go

1300
01:15:18.520 --> 01:15:21.159
you know, you go next, because Mitsy just can't bear it.

1301
01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:26.640
So Pearl goes next, and she walks into the church,

1302
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:30.000
into the audition room, and she gets up to the

1303
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:36.159
stage and the camera pans back and as she starts singing,

1304
01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:41.520
this curtain behind her opens and it's a big like

1305
01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:47.039
war scene with like explosions and fireworks, and she's got

1306
01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:48.680
backup dancers.

1307
01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:51.640
But it's like a painted backdrop, yeah, but with animation

1308
01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:55.159
of the bombs going off and yeah, and then the

1309
01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:57.199
backup dancers join her. And I do want to mention

1310
01:15:57.760 --> 01:15:59.920
she's not on beat most of the time.

1311
01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:02.720
I know, but she has I didn't even notice.

1312
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:05.039
That, especially when she starts doing her dance before it

1313
01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:08.520
goes into the full delusion. She's not really on beat

1314
01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:09.319
very well.

1315
01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:11.399
Oh my god, I didn't even notice that.

1316
01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:13.640
Well, she has no formal training. She never went to

1317
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:16.319
any kind of dance school. She literally has just danced

1318
01:16:16.319 --> 01:16:21.920
around her farm. Yeah, so she's never had any critique.

1319
01:16:22.119 --> 01:16:24.640
She's never been able to watch herself. I mean, you

1320
01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:27.319
remember this is an era. You know, you can't film

1321
01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:29.560
yourself with your phone and watch it back to like

1322
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:32.720
see how you're doing. She had no idea.

1323
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:35.720
That is one thing that I did notice is you know,

1324
01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:39.479
like for instance, you know, she goes and shacks up

1325
01:16:39.479 --> 01:16:42.800
with a projectionist and has, uh, you know, has a

1326
01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:46.720
nightmare about accepting an award and her mom's there in

1327
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:48.880
the audience, and she wakes up in a cold sweat

1328
01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:50.399
and she's like, I've got to I've got to practice

1329
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:55.000
my routine. She never practices her routine, no, like we

1330
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:58.920
never like she will kind of waltz and prants around

1331
01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:02.119
the farm, but she, yeah, she does not ever actually

1332
01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:04.800
sit down and practice. So yeah, I think it's funny

1333
01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:07.840
that you point out that she wasn't even in time

1334
01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:08.720
with the music.

1335
01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:11.119
No, And she seemed like even for the era, she

1336
01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:14.000
was kind of old fashioned in her performance. But I

1337
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:17.319
also I will say I loved the I mean, obviously

1338
01:17:17.319 --> 01:17:18.920
it's a big moment in the movie. I mean her

1339
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:23.359
doing that dance routine and the stage coming alive and

1340
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:27.039
the backup dancers joining her and everything. But if you

1341
01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:29.880
think about it, I mean, to me, it kind of

1342
01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:36.439
it kind of hints at like the vapidness of it all. Yeah,

1343
01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:41.800
because she's dancing while there's a war actively happening, and

1344
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:44.640
not one that she's detached from because her husband is

1345
01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:49.159
there fighting, and she didn't care. It's behind her. It's

1346
01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:54.199
a setting, it's a backdrop. Yeah, it's not. It doesn't matter.

1347
01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:57.640
The explosions aren't real that are happening behind her, Hence

1348
01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:00.560
she doesn't react to them. You know, they can't hurt her.

1349
01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:03.960
And I think that that's an interesting way of looking

1350
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:07.399
at the idea of I don't know how to how

1351
01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:11.039
to say it, like of just kind of compartmentalizing your

1352
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:13.640
life or in her case, just really not caring about

1353
01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:16.359
anybody other than yourself. Yeah, I mean she is. She

1354
01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:19.840
is a textbook sociopath. Oh yeah, without a doubt. She

1355
01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:22.439
has like these little moments of humanity, like trying to

1356
01:18:22.439 --> 01:18:25.039
extinguish her mother when she was on fire, you know,

1357
01:18:25.159 --> 01:18:30.319
things like that. But overall, she's very very disturbed, you know.

1358
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:32.359
And that's one of my favorite one of the things

1359
01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:34.960
that I love about this movie is I love movies

1360
01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:37.039
about people who have a dream or people who have

1361
01:18:37.079 --> 01:18:42.479
a passion. But you know, that's not like, that's not

1362
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:45.000
all that you have to have, Like you also have

1363
01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:50.560
to be you know, social and kind and and you know,

1364
01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:52.920
some people, I mean, some people who are very successful

1365
01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:57.039
have sociopathic tendencies. But you can't just be a full

1366
01:18:57.079 --> 01:18:59.840
blown sociopath and then go join a dance troupe and

1367
01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:03.399
have all the success in the world. Probably not going

1368
01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:06.800
to work. She's just super deluded. Yeah, yeah, she has

1369
01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:10.039
the mentality that she would sacrifice everything to do it

1370
01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:14.239
to be successful. But she has to have the talent too,

1371
01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:17.359
and the awareness I guess for lack of a better term.

1372
01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:21.840
So as soon as she finishes her dance, the judges

1373
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:25.319
are going to tell her what they think, and we'll

1374
01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:41.119
tell you right after this. What do the judges say, Rachel.

1375
01:19:42.399 --> 01:19:46.359
Thanks, but no, thanks, that's not what they said. No, no,

1376
01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:50.560
they said that she is not what they're looking for.

1377
01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:56.840
They said that they are looking for someone younger and blonde,

1378
01:19:57.319 --> 01:20:02.920
more all American, yup, and she does not take it.

1379
01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:08.000
Well, no, no, she starts demanding like let me try again,

1380
01:20:08.439 --> 01:20:11.600
I can do it better. She just loses it, and

1381
01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:14.479
the church lady is that walked her up to the

1382
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:16.199
stage is trying to say, like, you know, don't make

1383
01:20:16.239 --> 01:20:19.680
a scene now, it's gonna be okay, okay, and she's

1384
01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:23.600
not okay. So she storms out of there and sees Mitzi.

1385
01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:27.520
Mitzi just agrees, like, let's get out of here. So

1386
01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:32.880
Mitzi doesn't audition because they just leave together like rent

1387
01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:35.199
then and there, and Mitzi had had her cut ahead.

1388
01:20:35.840 --> 01:20:41.239
Yeah, so yeah, because Mitzy comes because uh, Pearl like

1389
01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:44.760
storms out and is like sulking and weeping behind the church,

1390
01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:47.319
and Mitzi just comes right behind to be a good

1391
01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:49.680
friend and finer. He's like, let's get let's get out

1392
01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:49.920
of here.

1393
01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:53.640
Yeah, let's go. So they head back to Pearls, which

1394
01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:58.720
obviously you know the place is quiet now at least

1395
01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:01.159
I mean that is one way to look at it,

1396
01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:01.720
I suppose.

1397
01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:09.640
Yeah, And they they walk up and Mitsy almost immediately

1398
01:21:10.079 --> 01:21:16.199
sees the pig that's now like mostly cupboarded maggots.

1399
01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:17.960
Yeah, because he says, is that our pig?

1400
01:21:18.119 --> 01:21:20.800
Yeah? Yeah, she even yeah, she asks, is that our pig?

1401
01:21:21.159 --> 01:21:25.720
And so she she goes and sits down with Pearl

1402
01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:31.079
and gets her something to drink, and it's like, it's

1403
01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:35.319
not all that bad. It's it'll be fine. It was

1404
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:39.600
just a silly church dance troupe. It's not even that

1405
01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:44.800
big of a deal. And pearls crushed and she says like, Mama,

1406
01:21:45.079 --> 01:21:48.479
Mama is right, I'm never gonna get off the farm.

1407
01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:52.920
I'm never leaving, and you know, starts talking about she

1408
01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:58.279
wishes that she could go to Europe, and Mitzy says like, oh,

1409
01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:00.720
it's not it's not that big of a deal. You

1410
01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:03.079
don't have to take it that seriously. And that's when

1411
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:07.640
Pearl like really starts to get like less distraught and

1412
01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:12.840
more serious, like no, you don't understand. I had to

1413
01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:15.399
get off the farm, like this was my only chance

1414
01:22:15.399 --> 01:22:18.079
and I had to get off the farm. And Mitzy's

1415
01:22:18.119 --> 01:22:20.079
trying to be a good friend and she's like, no, no,

1416
01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:24.880
that's you know, that's not you don't have to do anything.

1417
01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:30.880
And this last, i mean, the last few minutes of

1418
01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:35.479
the movie feels like it's the whole movie honestly, just

1419
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:44.039
because of Mia Goth's mind blowing performance. Yeah, And so

1420
01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:49.880
Pearl starts to say, like she doesn't feel well, and

1421
01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:52.680
Mitzy's like, oh, well, I guess I'll be going. She's like, no,

1422
01:22:52.720 --> 01:22:56.079
not like that. It's not the flu. I feel like

1423
01:22:56.159 --> 01:23:00.479
I'm missing something that the rest of the world has.

1424
01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:05.359
And Mitsy, again being a good friend, she thinks, oh,

1425
01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:08.279
well this is this will be no big deal. She says, well,

1426
01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:11.159
you should, you should talk about it. We should talk

1427
01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:16.159
about it. And Pearl says, well, I just I can't

1428
01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:18.880
even talk to Howard about it, and Mitsy says, well,

1429
01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:22.800
you should practice practice on me. Talk to me like

1430
01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:30.319
I'm Howard. And there's a few beats, and then Pearl

1431
01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:37.840
starts opening up about everything, first the affair, and then

1432
01:23:38.199 --> 01:23:42.439
she starts talking about Howard, her relationship with Howard. And

1433
01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:46.880
this is when we really realized that any coldness that

1434
01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:50.560
we saw in the beginning of the film was totally valid,

1435
01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:54.640
because the way she's talking about Howard now is he

1436
01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:57.920
was her ticket off the farm, that was it. And

1437
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:01.439
she lays it out that he she saw him and

1438
01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:04.760
pegged him as the rich guy that was going to

1439
01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:08.319
give her the life of luxury that she deserved, and

1440
01:24:09.039 --> 01:24:12.000
he didn't do that, and she resented him for it,

1441
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:15.760
and then she resented him for leaving for the war.

1442
01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:22.359
And then she starts talking about, you know, all the

1443
01:24:22.479 --> 01:24:25.960
terrible and awful, murderous things she's done, and then she

1444
01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:29.399
talks about a pregnancy and you know, all this, and

1445
01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:35.600
the whole time, the camera basically doesn't move from me.

1446
01:24:35.920 --> 01:24:41.039
We may cut to Mitsi once or twice, but I

1447
01:24:41.119 --> 01:24:44.800
think for most of it it is all on me,

1448
01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:45.319
a goth.

1449
01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:50.399
Well, there's a point when she starts speaking intensely where

1450
01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:54.439
it stays on her for probably probably a minute straight

1451
01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:59.000
or longer, which is really really long, because the whole

1452
01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:02.720
scene with her talking to hers nine minutes long.

1453
01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:07.279
Good lord, Yeah, that's insane.

1454
01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:13.520
Just saying that is just insane. And I mean she

1455
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:18.359
confesses to nearly everything. She confesses to kind of sometimes

1456
01:25:18.359 --> 01:25:20.800
being so mad at Howard that she hopes he dies

1457
01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:25.239
over there. She confesses to killing little animals and stuff

1458
01:25:25.239 --> 01:25:27.960
around the farm and how it's really not that hard

1459
01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:32.119
killing things. She confesses to killing her mom and dad.

1460
01:25:32.439 --> 01:25:36.560
She mentions how she felt really bad about, you know,

1461
01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:39.680
having to kill her dad, especially because Mama was sort

1462
01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:42.640
of an accident. But one of the things she mentions

1463
01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:46.720
that I thought was really kind of eye opening was

1464
01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:48.680
she even says like, and I get it, Like I

1465
01:25:49.319 --> 01:25:51.960
get what Mama was the way she was. She just

1466
01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:54.640
wanted a home that she felt safe into, which is

1467
01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:56.960
what I want. But I don't feel that way here.

1468
01:25:57.880 --> 01:26:01.399
But then she her tune changes though, because then she's like,

1469
01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:04.800
but after she I think, because of after everything that's happened,

1470
01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:08.680
she starts saying like, but now I understand, like I

1471
01:26:08.920 --> 01:26:11.640
you know, this is maybe this is my world, and

1472
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:13.960
maybe what I need to be is what Howard, what

1473
01:26:14.039 --> 01:26:16.760
you need? Because she's talking to Mitzi like she's Howard,

1474
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:18.560
you know, She's like, I want to be the wife

1475
01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:20.520
you want. I want to be these things and I

1476
01:26:20.560 --> 01:26:22.319
can if you can just forgive me, if you could

1477
01:26:22.319 --> 01:26:24.319
just see me as I am and not be afraid

1478
01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:30.000
of me. And it's it's an incredible, incredible sequence. But

1479
01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:33.479
there is in the realm of a movie. When I

1480
01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:36.680
say in a movie a scene is literally two minutes long,

1481
01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:39.319
I mean that you don't you count to sixty twice?

1482
01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:42.319
That's actually very long in a movie because movies are

1483
01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:45.319
ninety minutes to one hundred and twenty minutes, so one

1484
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:51.680
minute is you know, potentially, uh, you know what sixtieth

1485
01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:52.960
of the ear a sixty you know what I mean.

1486
01:26:53.800 --> 01:26:55.960
I'm not a math person, Okay, but I mean that's

1487
01:26:55.960 --> 01:26:56.960
a chunk of the movie.

1488
01:26:57.079 --> 01:26:57.760
Yeah.

1489
01:26:57.800 --> 01:27:00.800
And at one point they stop cutting to and just

1490
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:05.760
stay on Mi a goth being so incredibly intense and

1491
01:27:06.439 --> 01:27:11.039
believable and brilliant and scary. And it really is an

1492
01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:13.600
incredible example. And I've been saying this to I've said

1493
01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:15.800
this to so many actors for so many years, and

1494
01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:22.359
none of them ever really listen, write a great role

1495
01:27:22.479 --> 01:27:26.840
for yourself. You know your strengths. Yeah, so write a

1496
01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:30.039
great role for you and then take it. I've told

1497
01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:31.840
I've told actors who have been like, I want to

1498
01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:34.359
star in something, and I'm like, I don't have any ideas,

1499
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:37.479
you know, for you, And they'll be like ah blah blah.

1500
01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:39.640
And I'll be like, why don't you write a story

1501
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:42.439
that you know you could perform? Well, yeah, not just

1502
01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:45.039
the character you want to be, but the character you

1503
01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:48.960
know you can nail. Like do that. That's literally what

1504
01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:54.159
Rocky was. And this is a phenomenal example of that though, Yeah,

1505
01:27:54.159 --> 01:28:00.880
she knew she could do this incredible, this incredible friggin yeah,

1506
01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:06.199
it's it's it's it's a really masterfully done sequence, and

1507
01:28:06.680 --> 01:28:10.640
I every time I see it, I am still amazed

1508
01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:13.000
by it. And this is the first screenwriting credit Me

1509
01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:16.479
a Goth's ever had, by the way, goddamn. So clearly

1510
01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:19.199
she knew what she wanted to do and how she

1511
01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:19.720
could do it.

1512
01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:20.640
Mm hmm.

1513
01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:25.880
So but uh, once she's done talking like that, Mitzi decides, well,

1514
01:28:25.920 --> 01:28:32.479
I better be and the old dust better be getting going.

1515
01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:35.920
But uh, I wonder how well that'll go. We'll talk

1516
01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:37.079
about it right after this.

1517
01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:56.920
So Mi a Goth finishes her amazing monologue, and Mitzi is,

1518
01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:02.960
for a good reason, a little unsettled.

1519
01:29:03.239 --> 01:29:05.760
A little bit, yeah, a smidgeon.

1520
01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:09.960
Just a bit, just a scoach. So she takes a

1521
01:29:09.960 --> 01:29:15.199
couple breaths and then she's kind of like, Okay, well

1522
01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:20.680
I think I need to be getting going, and Pearl

1523
01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:24.960
asks her point blank, are you frightened? Did I frighten you?

1524
01:29:25.840 --> 01:29:30.239
And Mitsy, to her credit, is still trying to be

1525
01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:34.159
a good friend. Why she would, I don't know, but

1526
01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:36.560
she's still trying to be a good friend. She's still

1527
01:29:36.600 --> 01:29:41.399
trying to be polite, and she lies and she says, no, no,

1528
01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:46.600
it's just I just have to be getting home, is all.

1529
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:50.680
And Pearl asks, do you think I'm sick? And Mitsy

1530
01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:53.359
lies again and she's like, no, I don't. I think

1531
01:29:53.359 --> 01:29:58.800
you're fine. And Pearl then says, I'm happy for you

1532
01:29:59.479 --> 01:30:00.439
forgetting the part.

1533
01:30:01.479 --> 01:30:02.920
This part's so uncomfortable.

1534
01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:09.319
Oh and Mitsy, it's like what And Pearl says, I'm

1535
01:30:09.359 --> 01:30:13.439
happy for you. I'm glad you got the part. Clearly

1536
01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:16.279
you got the part because they're looking for someone younger

1537
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:21.279
and blonde and all American, and you always get everything

1538
01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:27.800
that you always want, don't you. And Mitsy's getting more

1539
01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:30.840
and more uncomfortable. She gets up and she's trying to leave,

1540
01:30:31.720 --> 01:30:36.880
and she gets to the door and Mitsy, you know,

1541
01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:41.279
she says, I'm not gonna say anything. I you know,

1542
01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:44.520
I know, I know that things are have been hard

1543
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:46.880
for you, So I'm just I'm just gonna leave. I'm

1544
01:30:46.960 --> 01:30:53.159
just gonna go, and she walks out the door and

1545
01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:56.840
it's a it's such a beautiful shot because it's so

1546
01:30:57.199 --> 01:31:03.680
dreadful because Mitsy's walking like speed walking, and the camera

1547
01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:06.800
is just in front of her as she's going down

1548
01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:12.840
the driveway, and then we see Pearl, you know, one

1549
01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:15.920
hundred maybe two hundred feet behind her, walk out the

1550
01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:19.479
door and just nonchalantly walk up to a tree stump

1551
01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:24.279
and grab an axe and just power walk up behind her.

1552
01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:28.680
And Mitzi's starts running and she breaks off and then

1553
01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:34.279
she trips and she falls, and Pearl just power walks

1554
01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:37.319
right up behind her and lifts up the axe and

1555
01:31:37.439 --> 01:31:41.840
just and you know, it just kills her, you know,

1556
01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:46.640
just kills her. And then it gets even weirder because

1557
01:31:47.560 --> 01:31:50.560
after killing her, and you know, she's like dismembering her,

1558
01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:52.920
then Pearl goes back down to the cellar.

1559
01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:55.079
You missed the part where she said what her mom

1560
01:31:55.199 --> 01:31:57.000
said to her before she threw the acts down, because

1561
01:31:57.000 --> 01:31:58.560
she asked her not to do that and should I'm

1562
01:31:58.560 --> 01:31:59.840
just making the best of what i have.

1563
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:04.960
That's really yeah. Yeah, she says, I'll do anything you want.

1564
01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:07.319
And she says, yeah, it's not about getting what i want.

1565
01:32:07.319 --> 01:32:10.079
I'm just you know, doing what I'm the best with

1566
01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:10.640
what I've got.

1567
01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:11.279
Yeah.

1568
01:32:12.479 --> 01:32:15.520
So, yeah, she kills her and dismembers her, feed feeds

1569
01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:18.760
her to the gator and she goes down and gets it.

1570
01:32:18.840 --> 01:32:22.359
And this is it's like done in a montage and

1571
01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:26.319
slow motion and stuff, but like it's really gruesome dismemberment.

1572
01:32:26.399 --> 01:32:29.479
I mean, it's not done subtly. She's chopping the arms

1573
01:32:29.560 --> 01:32:31.800
up and chopping the head off and yeah, throwing it

1574
01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:33.720
into the into the water for Theda.

1575
01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:36.199
Yeah.

1576
01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:42.640
And and upon another viewing when she's giving the speech

1577
01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:45.880
to Mitzi, the thing that made me the most uncomfortable

1578
01:32:46.279 --> 01:32:53.760
was her complete insane decision that Mitzi got the part. Yeah,

1579
01:32:53.840 --> 01:32:58.119
Mitzi didn't even audition. But she realizes how far gone

1580
01:32:58.159 --> 01:32:59.720
she is that she just starts going along with the

1581
01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:02.600
thank you know, no, it's good that you know, it

1582
01:33:02.680 --> 01:33:06.079
was nice that I won or whatever. That just is

1583
01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:09.920
such a perfect example of like what happens when somebody

1584
01:33:10.039 --> 01:33:13.479
goes into like a completely delusional state where they're just

1585
01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:16.239
completely off the reservation.

1586
01:33:18.439 --> 01:33:18.560
Ugh.

1587
01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:21.439
But but you were talking about when she heads into

1588
01:33:21.439 --> 01:33:23.680
the basement, Yeah, and to where Ruth is, Yeah, to.

1589
01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:29.039
Where Ruth is. It's it's so uncomfortable because you see,

1590
01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:33.479
you go back to that sense of arrested development because

1591
01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:36.199
she just sits there and cuddles up with her mom's

1592
01:33:36.720 --> 01:33:44.800
corpse and like kind of fantasizes about being held and sung,

1593
01:33:45.479 --> 01:33:47.840
you know, having her mom singer a lullaby and rock

1594
01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:48.199
her to.

1595
01:33:48.199 --> 01:33:50.079
Sleep, an old German, an old.

1596
01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:54.479
German lullaby, you know, which is part of the montage.

1597
01:33:54.680 --> 01:33:58.319
As she's kind of like quote unquote cleaning up around

1598
01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:02.119
the farm. And then you know, she gets her mom's

1599
01:34:02.319 --> 01:34:07.239
body and dresses it up and does the hair, what

1600
01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:11.880
little hair is left, and you know, gets her dad's

1601
01:34:12.159 --> 01:34:16.199
body and sets them all up at the dinner table

1602
01:34:17.119 --> 01:34:22.720
and waits for Howard. And we don't I mean, we

1603
01:34:22.760 --> 01:34:26.880
don't know exactly how much time passes, uh, you know,

1604
01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:31.000
but it's enough. It's enough time. And we go to

1605
01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:34.560
you know, we see the exterior of the farm, powder

1606
01:34:34.640 --> 01:34:38.800
Keg Farms, and you know, army truck stops and Howard

1607
01:34:38.880 --> 01:34:43.159
gets out of the truck, walks up to the house

1608
01:34:44.119 --> 01:34:48.079
and kind of notices things are a little amiss, almost

1609
01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:52.439
almost immediately, just things seem off when he walks through

1610
01:34:52.479 --> 01:34:55.920
the door. But it's really off when he gets to

1611
01:34:56.760 --> 01:35:00.760
the kitchen and dining room and now the food is

1612
01:35:00.840 --> 01:35:04.439
covered in mold and maggots, and well, she.

1613
01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:07.760
Put the pig on the table. She's basically decided that

1614
01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:12.439
in order to make up for all of her wrongdoings

1615
01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:14.279
and stuff, that she's going to make a home for

1616
01:35:14.359 --> 01:35:16.760
Howard to come home to and hope that that is

1617
01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:21.079
enough to make him keep around. Yeah, well, appease him.

1618
01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:24.800
I think sounds a little too kind to get him

1619
01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:31.520
to accept what she is and what she's done. And ugh,

1620
01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:36.079
it's it's such a hard moment to watch when he

1621
01:35:36.159 --> 01:35:38.439
walks in and just sees all of that, and then

1622
01:35:38.560 --> 01:35:43.279
she runs up to him holding a pitcher and says, Howard,

1623
01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:46.920
I'm so glad you're home. And you realize that she's

1624
01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:49.880
been living with them at that dinner table for weeks,

1625
01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:53.359
which is a psychopath thing to do. Is like leaving

1626
01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:56.640
dead people where they would be if they were alive,

1627
01:35:56.720 --> 01:36:00.319
so you don't have to completely and utterly face the

1628
01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:04.119
whole mess. And I want to mention because that's a

1629
01:36:04.159 --> 01:36:07.560
popular thing. Texas Chainsaw Massacre played with that concept a lot,

1630
01:36:07.800 --> 01:36:10.119
especially in Part two, which was the funnier one but

1631
01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:13.359
had a lot of dead family members in seats and

1632
01:36:13.359 --> 01:36:18.000
stuff like that. The story that I read on Weekly

1633
01:36:18.039 --> 01:36:20.800
Spooky this week for Valentine's Day, the novella we published

1634
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:24.079
by Bruce Haney. It's called Will You Be My Undead Valentine.

1635
01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:29.720
Very cute title, but it's actually very interesting and insightful story.

1636
01:36:30.439 --> 01:36:34.039
And what made me think of it was the main

1637
01:36:34.119 --> 01:36:38.039
character has this very religious, controlling mother and she starts

1638
01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:40.399
letting him go out and make friends and meet people

1639
01:36:40.439 --> 01:36:43.960
and stuff. And he figures out why when he finds

1640
01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:47.359
a copy of Time magazine in her bedroom, which magazines

1641
01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:50.640
are foreboden in their home, and it's the Time magazine

1642
01:36:50.640 --> 01:36:54.479
about ed Geen, and he realizes that his mother read

1643
01:36:54.520 --> 01:36:56.279
about or heard about ed Geen and was like, that

1644
01:36:56.359 --> 01:36:58.800
sounds like my son who I never let leave the farm,

1645
01:36:59.319 --> 01:37:02.640
who had an extreme because agean, had an extremely religious

1646
01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:05.000
mother who couldn't accept she was dead when she died.

1647
01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:08.960
The father ran off all this stuff. And there's a

1648
01:37:08.960 --> 01:37:11.279
part where he says in the story, he just literally goes,

1649
01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:14.279
I guess it's cool, except for the part that my

1650
01:37:14.319 --> 01:37:16.439
mom is afraid I'll be the next ed Geen. And

1651
01:37:16.439 --> 01:37:18.800
that's why she wants me to go to the Grange

1652
01:37:18.840 --> 01:37:22.960
hall to dance on Fridays is because she's afraid I'll

1653
01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:27.119
become a psycho. I thought that was such a great twist,

1654
01:37:27.600 --> 01:37:30.319
and Haine caught me completely off guard with that gag.

1655
01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:33.760
But now anyway, but that just like made me think

1656
01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:37.199
of it, Yeah, since it's poignant to what we're talking about.

1657
01:37:37.399 --> 01:37:39.520
But we're gonna take a quick break and then we'll

1658
01:37:39.560 --> 01:37:44.760
talk about the incredible final moment and dissect a little

1659
01:37:44.760 --> 01:38:01.000
bit more about Pearl right after this. So as Howard

1660
01:38:01.159 --> 01:38:05.359
looks on at Pearl, and I cannot overstate how how

1661
01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:10.560
just mortifying and and honestly very like the end of

1662
01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:12.920
an ec comic, like the end of a Tales from

1663
01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:16.760
the Crypt. She's just smiling as you see this tableau

1664
01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:20.880
of horror. I mean, there's mold in the water, glasses

1665
01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:24.920
and corpses on the at the dinner table, and she says,

1666
01:38:24.920 --> 01:38:26.560
I'm so glad you're home.

1667
01:38:28.159 --> 01:38:29.159
Holding up the pictures.

1668
01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:35.640
Yeah, And I don't know if they planned on having

1669
01:38:35.680 --> 01:38:38.079
her smile be over most of the credits, or if

1670
01:38:38.079 --> 01:38:39.840
they just had her hold it for a while as

1671
01:38:39.840 --> 01:38:45.039
an exercise or something, But she holds this painful smile

1672
01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:47.720
as the music swells up. We don't even get to

1673
01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:50.840
see his reaction. Yeah, the music swells and plays, the

1674
01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:56.600
credits play as her face is in this painful smile. Yeah.

1675
01:38:56.640 --> 01:39:00.760
And it's so interesting because it is a smile, but

1676
01:39:00.840 --> 01:39:08.039
she somehow conveys so many different emotions through that one smile,

1677
01:39:08.640 --> 01:39:11.800
and it starts with like, you know, joy and then

1678
01:39:12.039 --> 01:39:15.600
pain and then sorrow and then shame, and then it

1679
01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:20.920
goes just deeper and deeper into like just agony, pure

1680
01:39:21.039 --> 01:39:22.000
pure agony.

1681
01:39:22.359 --> 01:39:24.960
You know what's funny, is I? I really? I mean,

1682
01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:30.840
I think that's interesting. I only picked up on fear. Yeah,

1683
01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:33.520
I felt like it was just that she's afraid, afraid

1684
01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:35.840
that he'll reject her because she doesn't really care about

1685
01:39:35.880 --> 01:39:39.039
anybody but herself. Oh no, and unfortunately this is a

1686
01:39:39.079 --> 01:39:42.279
thing okay with movies, have you ever heard the term

1687
01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:45.560
like good for her stories or whatever? You know, like

1688
01:39:46.239 --> 01:39:49.159
they're not girl powers stories where a girl of female

1689
01:39:49.239 --> 01:39:53.279
character goes nuts and does some crazy stuff. Usually those movies,

1690
01:39:53.319 --> 01:39:55.760
Actually the characters are really tragic and it's really sad.

1691
01:39:56.199 --> 01:39:58.439
This is a really good example. Pearl does kill everybody.

1692
01:39:58.439 --> 01:40:01.680
She is literally demented, and it's not in a fun way.

1693
01:40:01.800 --> 01:40:07.960
She is tortured, horribly tortured. Yeah, so I'd be remiss

1694
01:40:08.079 --> 01:40:11.479
if I didn't say. Oh, and the music gets more

1695
01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:14.840
dour as her she starts to fail holding the smile,

1696
01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:18.359
and tears start running down her face, and then we

1697
01:40:18.520 --> 01:40:22.079
just get the credits and Pearl is wrapped up. It's

1698
01:40:22.119 --> 01:40:25.840
a brilliant character study about what would happen if somebody

1699
01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:32.920
had the dream inside them combined with like completely unmitigated sociopathy.

1700
01:40:33.359 --> 01:40:38.399
She's almost like a perfect recipe for a monster, you know,

1701
01:40:38.640 --> 01:40:42.039
the isolation that's necessary. But also she was sick before that.

1702
01:40:42.159 --> 01:40:45.399
I mean she was killing little animals when she was child,

1703
01:40:45.920 --> 01:40:50.199
which is a sign. But here's the thing I've realized

1704
01:40:50.199 --> 01:40:53.720
after thinking about Pearl for a while, because I really

1705
01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:55.800
do think it's a masterpiece, and I don't throw around

1706
01:40:55.920 --> 01:41:00.680
terms like masterpiece haphazardly. It's a master I think that.

1707
01:41:01.159 --> 01:41:03.600
You know, I would be amazed if Ty West made

1708
01:41:03.640 --> 01:41:06.880
a better movie, just because you know, some of it's

1709
01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:08.880
the script, some of it's the directing, some of it's

1710
01:41:08.920 --> 01:41:11.920
the stars, and some of it is the stars aligning.

1711
01:41:12.279 --> 01:41:14.439
Yeah, lightning in a bottle.

1712
01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:18.680
Yeah. Yeah. And the more I thought about this, the

1713
01:41:18.720 --> 01:41:23.840
more I realized that Pearl spent so well. First of all,

1714
01:41:23.840 --> 01:41:25.359
we have to go to X for a second, because

1715
01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:28.680
X is where they are, you know, when they're elderly

1716
01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:33.399
living on this farm, still together. Yeah, and in X,

1717
01:41:33.680 --> 01:41:36.880
it's very clear that Howard has been cleaning up after

1718
01:41:36.960 --> 01:41:42.319
Pearl his entire life. He's basically lives to protect Pearl.

1719
01:41:43.560 --> 01:41:45.279
I think that that's a very fair statement.

1720
01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:47.920
I would agree, Yeah, he lives to protect Pearl.

1721
01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:50.119
They live on this farm together. He has to keep

1722
01:41:50.119 --> 01:41:52.039
her away from people for the most part, you know,

1723
01:41:52.079 --> 01:41:55.359
because she might kill him, go crazy, and he doesn't

1724
01:41:55.359 --> 01:41:57.600
want her to take it away. He loves her. So

1725
01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:01.279
with that all being said, that's most of what X

1726
01:42:01.399 --> 01:42:04.840
is about, aside from like the teen Slasher parts. Pearl

1727
01:42:05.039 --> 01:42:08.159
was so afraid of becoming her mother, but she literally

1728
01:42:08.199 --> 01:42:08.880
becomes her father.

1729
01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:12.960
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

1730
01:42:12.720 --> 01:42:14.319
Now she literally becomes her father.

1731
01:42:14.960 --> 01:42:18.079
Yeah, she does though, because.

1732
01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:20.199
There's no partnership. I mean, she gives that whole when

1733
01:42:20.199 --> 01:42:22.159
she gives the whole speech about how at one point

1734
01:42:22.199 --> 01:42:24.199
she got pregnant and she was scared of it and

1735
01:42:24.239 --> 01:42:27.560
she felt like this monster was growing inside her, you know,

1736
01:42:27.720 --> 01:42:30.800
just sucking away her life force and stuff. I realize

1737
01:42:30.840 --> 01:42:34.840
that's very sociopathic way to view pregnancy, to only see

1738
01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:36.439
it as a threat and not see it as like

1739
01:42:36.760 --> 01:42:42.199
sharing or growing something. You know, like because when you

1740
01:42:42.239 --> 01:42:45.279
talk to like a healthy, you know, person who's like,

1741
01:42:45.640 --> 01:42:48.199
who's pregnant, who's like, you know, heads on straight, And

1742
01:42:48.239 --> 01:42:49.439
it can be hard. It can be easy to get

1743
01:42:49.439 --> 01:42:51.479
your head off straight when you're pregnant because you got

1744
01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:54.920
cormones and stuff going crazy and and you know your

1745
01:42:54.920 --> 01:42:56.840
body's changing. It can be scary. But when you talk

1746
01:42:56.880 --> 01:43:00.079
to somebody who's like mentally well and they're pregnant, they say, like,

1747
01:43:00.159 --> 01:43:03.439
I'm creating a life. You know, it's weird and it's

1748
01:43:03.479 --> 01:43:05.920
gross at times, and it's this, but I'm creating a life.

1749
01:43:06.039 --> 01:43:08.640
But Pearl's attitude was like this thing inside me's just

1750
01:43:08.720 --> 01:43:15.239
taken from me. Yeah. Yeah, but so what do they do.

1751
01:43:15.960 --> 01:43:18.920
They live on that farm. They kind of do whatever

1752
01:43:18.920 --> 01:43:21.039
they're gonna do at that farm. It's pretty old and

1753
01:43:21.079 --> 01:43:22.920
beat up by the time we get to seventy nine

1754
01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:26.640
when X is happening, but that's they're just there and

1755
01:43:26.680 --> 01:43:29.079
they've got their alligator, and they got a few animals,

1756
01:43:29.159 --> 01:43:32.039
not even very many animals at that point. So they

1757
01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:37.600
have literally done nothing a family would do. No children,

1758
01:43:37.960 --> 01:43:44.920
no no growth of anything, no travel, no nothing. All

1759
01:43:44.920 --> 01:43:49.159
he's done is care for Pearl, keep her safe and alive.

1760
01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:53.359
That's not a marriage, you know, Like I mean, and

1761
01:43:53.439 --> 01:43:55.399
my point is that, like how her mother was like,

1762
01:43:55.439 --> 01:43:57.840
I didn't I didn't want to be his mother. I

1763
01:43:57.880 --> 01:44:00.479
wanted to marry him. But this, you know, these are

1764
01:44:00.479 --> 01:44:03.520
the cards you're dealt. Like the man I love became

1765
01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:08.600
an invalid. I think that that is a like super

1766
01:44:08.720 --> 01:44:12.560
mirror to what happens to Howard and Pearl, which we

1767
01:44:12.600 --> 01:44:18.720
see an ex Yeah, because literally Howard's moderately reasonable. Yeah,

1768
01:44:18.760 --> 01:44:20.279
and Pearl is not. Pearls the one who's like, I

1769
01:44:20.279 --> 01:44:21.840
don't like what they're doing. I don't like the way

1770
01:44:21.680 --> 01:44:23.920
they look. I don't like that they're making a movie.

1771
01:44:23.960 --> 01:44:26.199
They think they're gonna be famous, because she's you know,

1772
01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:30.600
bitter as shit an X. She is her invalid dad,

1773
01:44:30.840 --> 01:44:33.680
can't leave the farm, can't be can't take care of herself,

1774
01:44:33.960 --> 01:44:36.960
has to be cared for and in X Howard, and

1775
01:44:37.079 --> 01:44:40.319
they're both getting really old, and Howard's afraid of what

1776
01:44:40.399 --> 01:44:44.279
will happen if he dies before her. Yeah, but he

1777
01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:48.760
also won't kill her or anything, because he's a like

1778
01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:54.960
a normal human, not not a broken monster who thinks

1779
01:44:55.039 --> 01:44:59.479
movies are real. I guess so, No, it's just it's

1780
01:44:59.560 --> 01:45:02.399
just that's it's just that's something I really thought about

1781
01:45:02.479 --> 01:45:04.399
last night after we watched the movie again. As I

1782
01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:06.479
was like it was about it was about right when

1783
01:45:06.479 --> 01:45:08.119
the mother got burned alive. It hit me. I was like,

1784
01:45:08.119 --> 01:45:09.520
oh my god, she becomes her dad.

1785
01:45:10.279 --> 01:45:12.520
Yeah, no, that's a very great point.

1786
01:45:13.159 --> 01:45:15.560
Well and and and you know, I'm afraid I'll become

1787
01:45:15.600 --> 01:45:20.560
you mom. Well, your mother's like a very tough, very

1788
01:45:20.720 --> 01:45:25.960
able and capable, headstrong human being who is still a human.

1789
01:45:26.000 --> 01:45:28.359
I mean when she's crying at night because the situation

1790
01:45:28.520 --> 01:45:31.800
is just fucking fucked, you know, it's like that's being human.

1791
01:45:32.640 --> 01:45:34.640
That's the kind of thing that I really started to

1792
01:45:34.760 --> 01:45:38.720
dawn on me when I was chewing on the whole concept. Yeah,

1793
01:45:38.920 --> 01:45:41.279
is like, yeah, she becomes her invalid father.

1794
01:45:42.159 --> 01:45:43.319
That's very interesting.

1795
01:45:43.720 --> 01:45:48.920
Yeah, So I don't know, I like, and there were

1796
01:45:48.920 --> 01:45:51.359
other things I was unpacking too, like there's no siblings.

1797
01:45:51.359 --> 01:45:55.239
Pearl is a only child, really unusual for that time period,

1798
01:45:55.239 --> 01:45:58.520
which would make me think that somebody, you know, like

1799
01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:01.800
maybe her mother couldn't bear children anymore or something.

1800
01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:04.159
Yeah, something something happened.

1801
01:46:03.960 --> 01:46:05.920
Because I mean in that era, I mean, because Pearl

1802
01:46:05.920 --> 01:46:08.760
would have had to have been born like in the

1803
01:46:08.800 --> 01:46:12.399
eighteen nineties. Mm. Hm. You just have a lot of kids.

1804
01:46:12.520 --> 01:46:13.760
You know that people have a lot.

1805
01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:15.319
Of kids, especially on a farm.

1806
01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:18.279
Yeah, because more hands, more of the more mouths to feed.

1807
01:46:18.319 --> 01:46:20.439
It's tough, but more hands to help and stuff. So

1808
01:46:20.560 --> 01:46:22.680
there's also that element too of making me wonder like

1809
01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:26.239
maybe the mother was also ruth was also angry because

1810
01:46:26.279 --> 01:46:29.640
like this was the only child she could maybe, Oh.

1811
01:46:29.479 --> 01:46:31.359
Yeah, this is the only one she could have, and

1812
01:46:31.399 --> 01:46:33.880
look at this she got. She got cursed with one.

1813
01:46:33.880 --> 01:46:35.760
That's uh off.

1814
01:46:35.880 --> 01:46:37.479
Or if you want to play it the other way,

1815
01:46:37.479 --> 01:46:40.199
to be a little bit kinder, Oh not really kind

1816
01:46:40.239 --> 01:46:43.920
in a way, it could be more like I only

1817
01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:47.000
have one child, Like my mother had six children and

1818
01:46:47.039 --> 01:46:50.359
we all turned out okay, like and we like grew

1819
01:46:50.439 --> 01:46:53.119
up in a horrible place that was poverty stricken. I

1820
01:46:53.159 --> 01:46:56.439
only have one child to care for, and look how

1821
01:46:56.439 --> 01:46:59.960
she's turned out. Like I am, you know, not half

1822
01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:02.800
the mother my mother was. My mother made us all

1823
01:47:02.840 --> 01:47:05.680
better people. And we had less to eat, we had,

1824
01:47:05.720 --> 01:47:07.960
we barely had a roof over our heads. And look

1825
01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:10.720
at this, I live opulently with my daughter who was

1826
01:47:10.760 --> 01:47:14.600
a monster. Yeah, what did I do? How did I

1827
01:47:14.680 --> 01:47:18.600
do that? Such a bout? Yeah, And I think that's

1828
01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:23.399
a very you know, harsh German kind of attitude. Yeah,

1829
01:47:23.479 --> 01:47:26.119
so those are all the things that I've been thinking

1830
01:47:26.159 --> 01:47:29.319
about that I hadn't considered until this last viewing of Pearl.

1831
01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:33.520
But uh yeah, yeah, well I'd love to hear your

1832
01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:48.199
opinions on it right after this. So those were my

1833
01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:51.159
thoughts which went on a little bit more than I

1834
01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:53.319
was intending. What about you, what are you? What are

1835
01:47:53.319 --> 01:47:53.720
you thinking?

1836
01:47:54.520 --> 01:47:59.800
Well, on this viewing, I definitely I felt a lot

1837
01:47:59.840 --> 01:48:03.680
more more for the mother. I feel like, you know,

1838
01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:09.960
you can't gloss over what Ruth goes through, sure, but

1839
01:48:10.079 --> 01:48:16.680
I feel like in this go through or this time

1840
01:48:16.680 --> 01:48:20.880
we watched it, I really I was struck just by

1841
01:48:21.159 --> 01:48:24.720
the tragedy of her character and kind of you know,

1842
01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:28.640
how tough it must have been for her, because yeah,

1843
01:48:28.800 --> 01:48:33.720
like caring for a sociopathic child and an invalid husband

1844
01:48:33.840 --> 01:48:38.000
can't be easy, and throw in a world war and

1845
01:48:38.119 --> 01:48:40.399
a global pandemic on top of that.

1846
01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:43.119
Well, and they had mentioned, like I said, they had

1847
01:48:43.279 --> 01:48:45.720
farm hands at one point, like the place used to

1848
01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:48.399
be Hoppin. Yeah, there was probably a time when it

1849
01:48:48.439 --> 01:48:51.359
felt like this was going to grow and become a

1850
01:48:51.399 --> 01:48:55.239
lot more than just a simple comfortable life. They probably

1851
01:48:55.319 --> 01:48:59.399
for a while were heading towards having a very successful business.

1852
01:48:59.479 --> 01:49:05.279
Yeah, and then that just got taken away. And yeah,

1853
01:49:05.359 --> 01:49:08.520
I just I love I've really want to now that

1854
01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:11.560
we've watched Pearl again, I want to go through and

1855
01:49:11.800 --> 01:49:15.520
I want to watch X again and see if there's

1856
01:49:15.840 --> 01:49:18.920
some more stuff that I've caught, you know, if if

1857
01:49:18.920 --> 01:49:21.239
I could catch anything else as far as you know

1858
01:49:21.399 --> 01:49:25.560
shots that because again, like I know that they set

1859
01:49:25.640 --> 01:49:30.560
up cars being in the pond in the gator pond

1860
01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:33.920
for X, so I'd like to see if there was

1861
01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:36.159
any other setups like that.

1862
01:49:36.760 --> 01:49:39.840
Yeah, because I don't know that they I don't think

1863
01:49:39.920 --> 01:49:41.880
they knew they were going to be making Pearl when

1864
01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:44.159
they were making X initially.

1865
01:49:44.399 --> 01:49:48.159
Really because I I know that a lot of the

1866
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especially like indoor sets, it feels like they had to

1867
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have at least kept some of those sets.

1868
01:49:55.520 --> 01:49:57.840
Oh no, they didn't tear any of the sets. They

1869
01:49:57.960 --> 01:50:00.640
reused everything. But I'm saying that I don't know that

1870
01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:03.000
they knew, at least not they didn't know at the

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01:50:03.039 --> 01:50:05.439
beginning of X, Like they certainly didn't know when they

1872
01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:07.600
were writing the script that there was going to be

1873
01:50:07.640 --> 01:50:09.239
another movie.

1874
01:50:09.279 --> 01:50:14.840
That's all, Okay, that makes sense. Then but yeah, and again,

1875
01:50:15.159 --> 01:50:23.199
just the technicolor and the color timing of it. The

1876
01:50:23.319 --> 01:50:29.760
music is absolutely amazing. I have to agree with you

1877
01:50:29.960 --> 01:50:33.439
that I feel like this is a masterpiece. I feel like,

1878
01:50:34.159 --> 01:50:38.720
even if you aren't necessarily a horror fan, if you

1879
01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:42.039
are just a fan of cinema, I think that this

1880
01:50:42.119 --> 01:50:47.840
is a really amazing character study because yeah, Mia Goth

1881
01:50:48.079 --> 01:50:54.199
just dives into the depths of what darkness can lie

1882
01:50:54.399 --> 01:50:58.520
in someone's heart and does a great job of like

1883
01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:01.840
really pulling your hurt string, but still making you feel

1884
01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:04.560
very uncomfortable at the same time, because like you want

1885
01:51:04.640 --> 01:51:06.920
to sympathize with her, but at the same time, like

1886
01:51:07.439 --> 01:51:09.960
there's every every time I watch it, there is that

1887
01:51:10.119 --> 01:51:14.560
moment where you're like, nah, Pearl, you lost me. I

1888
01:51:14.600 --> 01:51:19.079
can't sympathize with you anymore. Like you're not You're not

1889
01:51:19.199 --> 01:51:20.720
the hero that you think you are.

1890
01:51:21.119 --> 01:51:25.039
Hate when they pull on my hurt strings. No, and

1891
01:51:25.079 --> 01:51:30.079
I mean Pearl is definitely pretty quickly a villain, but

1892
01:51:30.239 --> 01:51:33.319
a tragic one for sure. I Mean the hardest part

1893
01:51:33.359 --> 01:51:35.039
for me, the moment where I feel the worst for

1894
01:51:35.079 --> 01:51:37.560
her is just when she's right before the big long

1895
01:51:37.560 --> 01:51:40.079
scene with Mitzi where she just says like, I don't

1896
01:51:40.119 --> 01:51:44.000
feel well, you know, is there something wrong with me?

1897
01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:46.920
That's where I feel really bad for her, because she

1898
01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:50.359
is sick. Mm hmm, you know she's not well. Yeah,

1899
01:51:50.399 --> 01:51:54.279
it's not that she's sat down with a bunch of

1900
01:51:54.319 --> 01:51:57.319
note cards and planned out like why all this murder

1901
01:51:57.319 --> 01:52:02.439
in Mayhem is good? She is drawn to it and

1902
01:52:02.520 --> 01:52:06.680
it's dark and sad and tragic, but damn if it

1903
01:52:06.720 --> 01:52:09.720
isn't a fascinating movie. And I think I didn't talk

1904
01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:12.000
a lot about the other elements because I feel like

1905
01:52:12.039 --> 01:52:13.960
this is stuff that movies explore all the time. But

1906
01:52:14.039 --> 01:52:18.800
like I do appreciate how open and honest they were

1907
01:52:18.880 --> 01:52:21.439
about some of the elements of wanting to be a

1908
01:52:21.520 --> 01:52:25.479
creative person and wanting to perform and wanting everybody to

1909
01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:27.720
see how great you are and all this stuff and

1910
01:52:27.720 --> 01:52:31.359
how it is a little fucked. It is a little

1911
01:52:31.439 --> 01:52:34.079
awful in some ways. It's a little it's a little

1912
01:52:34.199 --> 01:52:37.359
dark to believe that you're so important you should be

1913
01:52:37.399 --> 01:52:39.199
able to go and do these things. And every person

1914
01:52:39.600 --> 01:52:44.079
who goes out there and does anything creative has to

1915
01:52:44.119 --> 01:52:46.079
have a little bit of that craziness in them that

1916
01:52:46.119 --> 01:52:47.399
they're like, I have to put the sound into the

1917
01:52:47.439 --> 01:52:52.279
world otherwise, you know whatever, because I think it's fascinating

1918
01:52:52.319 --> 01:52:54.159
that there are people in the world who like will

1919
01:52:54.159 --> 01:52:56.960
play guitar just in their bedroom for their own amusement.

1920
01:52:57.439 --> 01:53:00.520
That means that they don't have some desperate need to

1921
01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:02.920
be loved that they have to fill. They're like, no,

1922
01:53:03.079 --> 01:53:05.720
this is just cool. Oh damn, I wish I could

1923
01:53:05.720 --> 01:53:10.520
feel that. So but that is Pearl. And before we

1924
01:53:10.560 --> 01:53:14.119
get out of here, we do have an email, and

1925
01:53:14.720 --> 01:53:17.319
she's waited very patiently for us to read this because

1926
01:53:17.319 --> 01:53:19.760
she sent this in on New Year's Eve. Oh goodness,

1927
01:53:20.279 --> 01:53:23.720
it's from Melissa Ward, who wrote in before. I'm sorry

1928
01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:25.880
if I oh, no, okay, that's her name. Okay, good

1929
01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:28.640
I thought I read the wrong name Forson, but she

1930
01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:32.000
wrote us a little email. Hey, it's Melissa again. I

1931
01:53:32.039 --> 01:53:34.279
love the movie dead End. I found it on tub.

1932
01:53:34.720 --> 01:53:37.199
The thing about this movie is how mundane a road

1933
01:53:37.199 --> 01:53:39.880
trip can be. While there's many movies that are about

1934
01:53:39.920 --> 01:53:42.680
a road trip or start out as one Jeeper's Creepers

1935
01:53:42.680 --> 01:53:45.760
comes to mind, this one hits a bit different. The

1936
01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:50.279
simplicity of the scene. It is heavy on atmosphere more

1937
01:53:50.319 --> 01:53:53.399
than meat. Things like a creepy gas station or houses

1938
01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:57.159
aren't necessary. The humor is amazing. The horror is found

1939
01:53:57.199 --> 01:54:01.760
in the Everydanius of it. Anyway, your discussion never disappoint Sorry,

1940
01:54:01.800 --> 01:54:05.520
I'm rambling. Have you seen Frenzy nineteen seventy two by Hitchcock?

1941
01:54:05.920 --> 01:54:08.800
I have? I know you have not. I guess Frenzy's

1942
01:54:08.880 --> 01:54:13.239
really really good. Another solid movie, violent by those days standards,

1943
01:54:13.560 --> 01:54:16.840
extremely violent by those standards. Also, I was surprised to

1944
01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:20.239
hear you've seen you'd seen dudes. She referenced that in

1945
01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:23.199
her last email. I have. It's been a while, but

1946
01:54:23.199 --> 01:54:25.479
I would watch that again. I love me some Daniel Roebuck.

1947
01:54:26.119 --> 01:54:28.680
A few people have thanks for mentioning my email. Well,

1948
01:54:28.720 --> 01:54:31.279
we mentioned this one too. I hope you and yours

1949
01:54:31.319 --> 01:54:33.560
have a great new year. Here's hoping for a better one.

1950
01:54:33.640 --> 01:54:36.760
We all need it. Melissa, Well, thank you for writing

1951
01:54:36.960 --> 01:54:39.359
morea that great. We're always happy to hear from you.

1952
01:54:39.560 --> 01:54:41.800
And if you, guys, any of you listening, want to

1953
01:54:41.800 --> 01:54:45.359
write in share movies, you enjoy thoughts on our thoughts,

1954
01:54:45.399 --> 01:54:48.319
whatever you may have, just send the email to Weekly

1955
01:54:48.520 --> 01:54:55.840
Spooky at gmail dot com. So yeah, so anything else

1956
01:54:55.880 --> 01:54:59.319
you want to share about peerl or what we're going

1957
01:54:59.359 --> 01:55:03.319
to be talking about next, or well next.

1958
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We are going to be talking about Confessions of a

1959
01:55:08.000 --> 01:55:12.680
Serial Killer. Oh gosh, yeah you've been You've been threatening

1960
01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:14.720
to make me watch that one for a while.

1961
01:55:14.800 --> 01:55:19.000
You still haven't seen it. That's a heavy one. Yeah,

1962
01:55:19.079 --> 01:55:21.159
all right, Well, I mean it's your it's your.

1963
01:55:21.079 --> 01:55:24.840
Call heavy February, which doesn't rhyme, but I'm going to

1964
01:55:24.880 --> 01:55:25.479
pretend it.

1965
01:55:25.439 --> 01:55:27.119
Does heavyary, have you?

1966
01:55:27.359 --> 01:55:28.359
Have you reary?

1967
01:55:28.880 --> 01:55:32.000
All right? That's I think that's the uh the queue

1968
01:55:32.079 --> 01:55:36.079
for us to uh get out of here. Thank you

1969
01:55:36.159 --> 01:55:38.079
all so much for listening to cutting deep into horror.

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We hope you enjoyed it. Remember you can email us

1971
01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:43.439
at Weekly Spooky at gmail dot com with any suggestions,

1972
01:55:43.720 --> 01:55:48.079
comments or criticisms. Although we'll ignore the last one aggressively.

1973
01:55:48.760 --> 01:55:50.880
I want to mention also, I think Confessions of a

1974
01:55:50.920 --> 01:55:54.319
Serial Killer is available on TV and now I'm like

1975
01:55:54.399 --> 01:55:58.960
checking as fast as I can. I don't know you'll

1976
01:55:58.960 --> 01:56:01.439
find it on your own. Good luck, everybody, but no,

1977
01:56:01.760 --> 01:56:03.239
thank you guys for joining us. If you love what

1978
01:56:03.239 --> 01:56:05.479
we're doing here, remember you can go to Weeklyspooky dot

1979
01:56:05.520 --> 01:56:07.840
com slash join sign up for our Patreon for a

1980
01:56:07.840 --> 01:56:10.000
little is one dollar a month help us keep the

1981
01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:12.880
show going and going. We do appreciate it, but we'll

1982
01:56:12.920 --> 01:56:15.960
be back in a couple weeks talking about Confessions of

1983
01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:21.199
a serial Killer, one of my favorite, truly unloved, not

1984
01:56:21.239 --> 01:56:24.279
loved enough horror films of all time. So until next time,

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stay safe and stay off the farm.