Dec. 21, 2024

Do You Even Movie? | Krampus (2015)

Do You Even Movie? | Krampus (2015)
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"Saint Nicholas isn't coming this year. Instead, a much darker, ancient spirit has arrived—Krampus."As the holiday season winds down, we're closing out Christmas with a modern horror classic that's about to celebrate its 10-year anniversary. Join Henrique and David as they travel (metaphorically) to New Zealand to discuss Krampus (2015), the shadow of St. Nicholas who punishes instead of rewards. This fan-favorite Yuletide horror has become a staple of December movie marathons.

When young Max and his dysfunctional family have an explosive argument during Christmas, he unknowingly summons the demonic Krampus—a dark counterpart to Santa Claus who punishes non-believers. Now, Max and his family must survive the night against the terrifying spirit in Michael Dougherty’s Krampus!

Starring Adam Scott, Toni Collette, and David Koechner, this episode dives into why Krampus has such rewatchable charm, from its thrilling practical effects by Weta Workshop to its perfect blend of horror and holiday spirit. Plus, hear Henrique and David discuss their first time seeing it on opening night, the debate over whether Lethal Weapon or Die Hard is the ultimate Christmas movie, and more holiday-themed recommendations, including the Silent Night, Deadly Night novelization and the wild ride that is Santastein.

It’s the LONGEST episode of Do You Even Movie? yet—so grab some eggnog, stoke the fire, and enjoy this festive deep dive just in time for the big day!Links & Contact Info:

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Merry Christmas. I hate Christmas. I hate all of you.

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This holiday season. He knows if you've been naughty or

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nice over the door. He is a shadow of Saint

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Nicha's hold on to each other. Chromis is coming.

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It's nothing bad. It's gonna happen on Christmas Britt, Pg.

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Thirteen.

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In a world where podcasts reign supreme, two friends dare

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to ask.

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Do You Even?

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Movie?

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Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David de Noyer.

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Spoiler alert, Hello, and welcome back to Do You Even? Movie?

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My name is Enrique Kuto, your host, along with my

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co host and air quotes friend David Denoyer, who is

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not festive enough. But it's like office space. You were

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supposed to wear a certain amount of holiday fas and

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you didn't. You will get it right up.

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I mean it's Christmas Eve at this point, So I

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guess I'm really in trouble now.

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Well, I you know, I don't like to harp on things,

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but being naughty isn't exactly what it used to be.

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It is not you know, you think you're gonna see

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Sandy Claus.

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Boy, Sandy, don't visit the funeral Home, Little buddy.

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You see Sandy Claus. You better run, boy, run for

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your life. Yes, but we're not talking about Silent Night

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Deadly Night. Are not because Dave did not want us

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to pick a true classic. You wanted a guess, a

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classic in the making.

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I mean, if you want, I can talk about Silent

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Deadly Night real quick, because I've been reading the novelization

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of it recently.

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I call bullshit. You cannot read.

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I can read, and I've been reading Armando Minas's novelization

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is Silent Night, Deadly Knight, Blank There for a second,

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had a blue screen to Death. It's from the same

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company that did Stop, the same company to Stop the Killer.

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They are the people that are putting out the board

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games for My Bloody Valentine, Halloween two, Silent at Deadly Night,

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and they've also been doing novelizations as of recent They've

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done My Bloody Valentine, Silent at Deadly Night. I think

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they recently just did Happy Birthday to Me, Black Christmas,

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Black Christmas, and basket Case is one of the newest

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ones too. Oh okay, yeah, And so the novelization of

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My Bloody Valentine had a lot of stuff attitude. His

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novelizations typically do yeah, correct, And that is exactly the

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same thing with Silent at Deadly Knight. I'm having an

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absolute blasted this, but it is so fucking vile and

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so takes liberties with the story that we know in

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love that I cannot even put into full description. How

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much more Silent at Deadly Night you get from this book.

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Which is bizarre because it was literally described with words.

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Yes, yes it was, and numbers and sometimes how many

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numbers that really? But no, for real, it's the book

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gives you a whole backstory of the character of Grandpa

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and the shit that he's getting into in the asylum.

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You get a whole backstory on the guy that murders

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Billy's parents, how he got his Santa suit, and how

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that car that pulls up to the gas station that

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he's driving has two bodies decomposing in the trunk in it. Okay,

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he's also apprehended ten minutes after killing Billy's parents. Not

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to mention, when I say apprehended, he is shot through

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the front of his windshield. When I say shot, shot

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out of the front of the windshield and gets impaled

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by a tree, has his organs basically thrown out of

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his body, but also takes like three four cops with

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him in the process. Oh, there's a whole backstory into

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Billy and Sister Margaret. There's a whole bunch of explanation

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in regards to what happens after he punches out Santa

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Claus in the one point as well. It is a

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lot of fun because it just expands even more so

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on a really fucked up movie already and makes it

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even more fund up.

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Well, novelizations tend to do that. People often don't realize

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what a brief experience a movie is compared to a book. Yeah,

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that's why I would dare say that the majority of

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like the best Stephen King adaptations are from his short

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stories to feature filmy as opposed to trying to adapt

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an entire novel to a feature film because you have

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to cut so much stuff out generally, So I've always

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found that the best films of his often were based

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on short stories. Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, short

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story is a lot closer to a feature film.

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Well, I mean the Monkey That's Coming Out that's one

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of his short stories. And ironically enough, when I was

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going through my books, a couple of days ago. I

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have a book that's the a Book of Horror Stories,

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and the first one is The Monkey by Stephen Kames.

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Well, there you go. Yeah, and and uh, novelizations have

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definitely made a comeback to some extent. I mean it's

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still very niche. Yeah, absolutely, But like there were novelizations

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of the three most recent Halloween films and those were released,

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mainstream novelizations are becoming very novel there is lack of

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a better term.

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There is a four hundred page novelization of Terrifier two

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available right now by the same author that did the

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Halloween books, Tim Wagner, and I've read reviews on it

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and they say it's actually really good in regards to

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the details that you get that are not in the movie,

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for art as well as Sienna and her family.

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I can't imagine the book is longer than Terrifier two is, though.

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I mean, I'm most likely going to get a copy

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in the new year and check it out, even though

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it is four hundred pages of Terrifier two.

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I mean I would expect nothing less.

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Nothing less, yes, at this point, but no. The reason

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I break up Silent at deadly Night is because not

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only is it Christmas time. But also usually when it

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comes to those novelizations, they're really limited and kind of

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hard to get. You have to pre order them in advance,

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kind of like I just dive a black Christmas.

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They are actually having a paperback made of Silent at

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Deadly Night right now that you can order from shot

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Factory with the new four K coming out. Oh wow,

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So you can order the novelization stand alone and get

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it as a bundle, or it's also available on Kindle.

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It's the only one of his novelizations available on Kindle

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so far. Oh it is Silent at Deadly Night. So

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that is me recommending Armando Munas is Silent at Deadly

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Night novelization. It's been a blast so far. I'm halfway

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through it. Literally, I just reached like page one point

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sixty and we are just getting to Billy getting into

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the Santa suit at Iris Toys.

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I mean I bought the novelization as well on hardbacked. Yeah,

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but like most books I buy it sits on a

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shelter and very nice. Yes, I just had to buy

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it because I buy everything that's Silent a Deadly Night.

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I have the four K sitting on my coffee table

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right now waiting.

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The only one I really do want to get my

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hands on. But I think I have missed The boat

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is Happy Birthday to me, because I bet there is

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a lot of really cool shit in that book, Because

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I mean that movie in itself is a is a

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pretty solid slash film that I feel is underrated. I

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don't think a lot of people talk about it much

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and not a time. Yeah.

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Well, and novelizations, they're always very interesting. I had, actually,

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I don't want to say the name of the movie,

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but I commissioned a novelization of an older public domain

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horror movie that I intend to eventually publish, and I

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was very when the writer and I were talking about

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it was David O'Hanlon's written The Babysitter Massacre books. Yes,

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when we were talking about it, he was like, how

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would you feel if the first third of the book

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is that whole movie?

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And then I do two more acts and I was like,

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what would the X be like? And I'm not kidding.

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His repose was fucked up?

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Yeah, if it's David O'Hanlon, Yeah.

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And I was like, well, you drive a hard bargain. Yeah,

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but it seems like that's the go to, so No,

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eventually I'll publish them. I don't want to say something

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until they're ready to really go into the world. Yeah,

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I gotcha, But no, the novelization thing is very very fun.

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No, it's super fun. And like I said, it's read

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available right now via Kendle or you can get a

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copy through shout. I cannot recommend an novisation enough, but

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I will say that due to the fact that I've

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already said, it's pretty messed up. There is a lot

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of sexual content in it. So if that's something you

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don't want to read, then you probably shouldn't be watching

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or reading Silent at Deadly Night to begin with.

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Well, if you don't read a lot of books, yeah,

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which I do not. Yeah, people often forget how perverse

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literature is, oh general, Oh yeah, When you can read

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someone's internal monologue, everything gets far worse in every way.

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We get a look into Billy's life after he turns

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eighteen and leaves the home and has his apartment. The

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man likes to rent adult videotapes and masturbate a lot.

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They don't shy away from that subject.

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I guess that none really didn't teach him anything. Mother

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Superior should have whipped him a lot more.

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Spoiler alert with that real quick. So there is a

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whole section in the book where they talk about how

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Sister Margaret and Mother Superior are going at wis end,

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which you do see them combative in the movie. Obviously,

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Mother Superior is supposed to be attending this Christmas program,

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so Sister Margaret decides to hire a child psychologist to

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come see Billy, and Mother Superior ends up whooping the

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shit out of him with a belt and like breaking teeth,

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like cutting his face with.

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The baut the therapist, Yeah, likely beats the shit out

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of the therapist. Wow.

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And then on top of that, you also find out

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that in the movie that Mother Superior at towards the

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end is in a wheelchair because she had a stroke

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as they say as a stroke in the second one,

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or she had a fall in the in the first one.

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I think the.

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Stroke was in the second one. They didn't really explain

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what was going on with her.

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Well they do in the book, because Sister Margaret may

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or may not be the reason that she ends up

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in that wheelchair. Secretly, that's cool.

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But also like it kind of it kind of a

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lot of what I like about.

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That is the one thing I'll say is like, if

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you're a fan of the movie, like wholeheartedly, like love it,

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know it from front to back, awesome, be prepared to

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have some things added in change.

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Well, I mean, it's not canon. None of the novelizations

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are generally canon anyway. But that's that's kind of my

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favorite one of my favorite things about There's a lot

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I love deeply about Silent and Deadly Night. One of

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them is like the Santa Killer at the beginning, just

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that's it, He's gone, because why would you hear anymore?

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It has nothing to do with the main main point

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of the plot hymn specifically, just what he did matters.

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I like that stuff. I actually, I don't know if

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you listen to Rachel and I is cutting deep into

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horror about it. But oh wait no, yeah, yeah, I

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was gonna say, ye had a sorry.

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I was thinking of the newest one.

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No, no, no, well you know that aired like yesterday

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of what we're recording this. But one of the things

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that dawned on me after watching this film so many

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times is I don't think Mothers Superior means harm at all. Yeah,

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I actually, And because one of the big things is

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that ending moment where she says there is no Santa Claus.

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to him and protect the kids. Now she's trying to

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snap him out of it. She's trying to save Billy.

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where she's literally like no harm will come to anyone,

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which is super old school Catholic, you know. So I've

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always loved Silent Night, Deadly Night. I do want to

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read the book eventually. I'm sure i'll get around to it.

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to go up to Michigan, I read all of the comics.

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anymore have been published now, but they were pretty good.

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I've read those comics. But yeah, the thing I will

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is as Enrique and I just said, you can't take

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it as canon because there are some major changes to it,

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like one of which being Mother Superior is a straight

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up villain in the book. Sure, so, yeah, that is

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one thing I will prepare you for.

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Well, I mean she's the villain anyway, it's just in

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the movie. I find her to be a complicated villain.

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Do You Even movie will be right back, welcome back

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to Do You Even movie?

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Who wants to talk about complicated villains when we could

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talk about the least complicated villain possibly in all of

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Christmas horror, I would say so, yes, as we are

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going to be talking about two thousand and fifteen's Crampus. Yes,

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but before we get into that, I made you a

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promise you did at the start of the holiday season.

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Uh huh, and now I have to I have to

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follow through.

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So I am going to give you three uninterrupted minutes,

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okay to talk about Santa Stein. Why this is your

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Christmas gift?

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Thank you so much.

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So in this I'm gonna take a break and drink

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some water.

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In the spirit of Enrique and I going through our

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Christmas catalog of films that we pull from. We also

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like to go and see what has been released as

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of recent whether something we missed in the past or

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even came out this year. And in my bright stupor

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that I decided to stupor. Stupor is the board. I'm

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going with it. I'm still just sticking with it. I

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decided to tell you about a movie that I saw

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had popped up on Voodoo recently. That was Santa Stein

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and it was by Bloody Disgusting. It was Cineverse, so

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it looked I watched the trailer. It looked it looked

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decent or okay, I guess is the way I could

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put it. And it was one that we found out

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was on Prime and actually is readily available everywhere.

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Now because it came out last year.

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Yeah, it came out last year, and it was a

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very big disappointment, was it not?

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I mean yeah, I I it wasn't marketed as kind

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of like a homegrown, kind of like very moderately professional movie.

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And I'm not trying to be mean.

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It's just but it.

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Sometimes when you put a really great piece of artwork

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and a really good trailer on a movie and then

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I would say about half of the film is surprisingly amateur,

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it hurts the film because of the expectations. You said, Yeah,

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we were expecting kind of a straight up slasher movie. Yeah,

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and the first half of it had massive problems with

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the sound mix. We had trouble understanding the dialogue, but

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then in the middle of the movie it was fine.

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It changed a bit, yeah, which is almost more worrisome.

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Yeah, it absolutely is. I think my biggest problem besides

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the general just storytelling, because it was all over the place.

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Well, it was also like a very you know, outrageous

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horror comedy as well.

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I did not find a single character likable, to be honest.

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I don't think that was an accident though. I think

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they were trying to to you know, yeah, to be

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really silly and really kind of nudgey toward the camera

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and all that.

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Normally I can point out like there were cool things

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about it. I did not. I don't have much memory

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of it, even though we watched it like what three

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days ago. Yeah, yeah, I don't even have much memory

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of it now.

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I I mean, I think that if you want to

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watch Santa Stine, it definitely is the kind of thing

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you'll like if you like that kind of thing. So

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if you want to watch like a really silly, really

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kind of homegrown is the best word I can think of,

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because it comes across as as very like a first film,

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the first feature, there's a lot of rough edges and

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things like that. Yeah, if that's the kind of thing

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you like, if you want to watch a movie that's

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kind of aiming for being so bad, it's good. I

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don't think it could. You could do worse. You could,

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but we thought based on the poster and the trailer. Well, really,

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the problem is that I trusted you.

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You you literally hit play on it because it was

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available on Prime, and I just and.

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You said we should watch that.

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I said, hey, there's a movie called Santa Steine that

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I found recently, and you pulled it up and you're

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just like, oh, it's on Primal, just watch it. I

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didn't say we should watch it. I was just saying

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I had found this film.

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And I thought we were friends.

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And I would like to add that this film is

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literally about a guy that ends up killing Santa Claus

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when he's a young kid, which is probably the best

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bed in the whole movie. Yeah, he ends up keeping

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his brain. He is a scientist, and he decides to

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basically resurrect the brain inside a new body. And Santa

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is crazy and I don't even like, I don't even know, like.

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It's you don't know Santa literally the killer.

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Santa Stein was one of the most disappointing things about

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that movie.

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Also, and I'll close it with this, This was me

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just picking on David. You have to talk about it

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because you deserved it, that's fair. But the biggest problem though,

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by large, Santa Stein's terrible title for it should have

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been Franken Santa Sanna Frank and Santa sounds so much

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better than Santa Steinstein. That's my biggest critique.

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Actually, But like you said, you could do it. You

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could do a lot better. You could do a lot worse.

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Yeah, it's just it's not if you're hoping to sit

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down and watch a movie that gives you, you know,

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professional movie vibes, Yeah, and not sit down and watch

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us so bad It's good kind of thing. Yeah, And

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granted it was called Sanna Steine. It's more so like

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it was very frustrating when you couldn't hear the dialogue

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over the music and things like that. That's just that's

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a cardinal sin. It makes it very hard to enjoy

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the movie because I like to be as kind as

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I can to any film I watch. Yeah, we did

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watch it all the way to the end we did.

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It's just that we were kind of like.

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Wow, I don't think we'll ever have lightning strike in

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a bottle like it did with All through the House.

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All Through the House was so much fun.

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Yeah, that was a yeah. Yeah, that's a pretty good one. Yeah,

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sou But you still have a minute left talk about it?

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Are you sure? You just don't want to get into

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Grampus and actually have fun?

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Nah? Nah, everybody has fun for the holidays. I don't

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want to. I don't want to be cliche. So we're

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gonna have a bad time. So who do you love

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that's dead? Oh Jesus, Well that's one okay. I mean,

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if you love him, that's good. It wasn't an accident

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when well the Romans stumbled and accidentally hammered him to

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a cross. Whoopsie doodle. Oh my god. So we're talking

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about twenty fifteen's Crampus. Yes, uh, where can people watch

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it if they haven't before?

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Crampis is currently available on Max and Peacock. You can

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also get the awesome Naughty cut on four K from

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shot Factory right now as well.

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Right and then, So it is a PG thirteen film, yes,

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but there is an R rated air quotes kind of cut,

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which has a few more swear words but mostly extended

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dialogue and the very rare extra little bit of violence. Yeah,

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but it's mostly a few extra swear words and some

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extra dialogue, which I think works for the film.

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Fantastic No, I couldn't agree more so. It is one

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hour and thirty eight minutes read a PG. Thirteen four

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sequences of horror, violence, terror, language, and some drug references.

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These movies keep using language like just don't talk in it.

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Our director and one of the writers on the film

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is Michael Dogherty. He gets his starty is it Dougherty?

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Dirty?

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Dirty?

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Dirty dirty?

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Did I fuck up?

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That's what That's what he's spelled?

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Doherty Doherty? Okay, Dugarty doerget Dorgerty? There say it again,

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Doherty Doherty? Michael Doherty.

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I'm pretty sure I'm saying it. Okay, it does It's

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literally spelled Dougarty yeah, or doug Hurty. But I don't

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think that's how you say that last thing.

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Michael Doherty gets his start in two thousand and seven

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as a director on Trick Artreat. He was also the

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writer on that film. Then does Crampis in twenty fifteen,

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which he's a writer on, Godzilla King of the Monsters

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in twenty nineteen, which he's a writer on. He was

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also a writer on X two X Men United in

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two thousand and three, Urban Legends Bloody Mary in two

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thousand and five, Superman Returns in two thousand and six,

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X Men Apocalypse in twenty sixteen, and Godzilla Versus Kong

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in twenty twenty one.

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Right, right, So, I mean that was a pretty big

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leap for him jumping out into the Godzilla franchise. Yeah. Yeah,

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but he hasn't come back to it, which is a

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little bit of a bummer he has.

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I will say too, I really like Urban Legends Bloody Mary.

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I think that's an underreat.

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All know you love Urban Legends Bloody.

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Mary, Just saying I think all three Urban Legends are

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are good whereat as the I Not You Did Lessonmer

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series not so much.

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Ohly watching three on your Birthday to Jesus, Do You Even?

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Movie? Will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even?

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Movie.

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One of the other writers on the film is Todd Casey.

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He gets his start in two thousand and seven on

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the Transformers animated series. He does Green Lantern Emerald Knights

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in twenty eleven, Batman, The Brave and the Bold series

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in two thousand and nine, ThunderCats, Avengers Assemble, Hulk and

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the Agents of Smash, Crampus in twenty fifteen, teenagemw Ninja

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Turtles in twenty fifteen, Star Versus The Force of Evil

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in twenty sixteen, Hilda Trash Truck, Centaur World in twenty

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twenty one, and most recently The Legend of Voxmacna in

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twenty twenty three. Well, all right, moving down our other writer,

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we have Zach Shields. He gets his start as a

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writer on Trigg or Treat Father's Day short in twenty twelve,

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which he also directed, Crampus in twenty fifteen, The Cost

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of Summer in twenty seventeen, Godzilla, King of the Monsters

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in twenty nineteen, and Godzilla Versus King in twenty twenty one.

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It sounds like he's quite the writing partner.

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I would say so. Our cinematographer on the film is

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Jules O. Laughlin gets to you could say Laughlin. I

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can't say Laughlin because I know Laurie Laughlin from Full

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House back in the day.

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Ah did she bribe you too? It's an honest question, Dave, that.

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Is an honest question. Did anything ever come of that?

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I don't think your kid got in the school.

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I know that.

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Yeah, I mean she was on Curby Your Enthusiasm making

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jokes about it.

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Oh she was, Oh god, yeah, I haven't watched any of.

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The new Yeah, she's like bribing constantly at the country club.

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That's really and Larry figures it out. That's really funny.

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I need to check that out. Well, it's almost like,

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you know, the last season was pretty good.

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Yeah, you've said been saying that.

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I'm sorry.

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Jules o. Laughlin gets started as a DFE in two

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thousand and six with Kodica in thirty ninth Battalion, September

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in two thousand and seven, In Her Skin in two

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thousand and nine, Sanctum in two eleven. Did you ever

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see Sanctum, the cave movie that Cameron produced. No, it

465
00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:06.559
is really really good, but it's really really sad.

466
00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:09.960
Huh. I mean I'm more of an inner Sanctum. The

467
00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:10.359
kind of.

468
00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:13.519
Personner Sanctum is good. Wish you were here in twenty twelve,

469
00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:16.640
Redford Now in twenty thirteen, Deep Sea Challenge in twenty fourteen,

470
00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:19.839
Black Sales, then Shoots Crampus in twenty fifteen, followed by

471
00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:22.519
the Whole Truth in twenty sixteen, The Duel in twenty sixteen,

472
00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:25.799
Hit Man's Bodyguard in twenty seventeen, The Pacific and Wake

473
00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.160
of Captain Cook in twenty eighteen, Angel Has Fallen in

474
00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:32.480
twenty nineteen, ce in nineteen, Come Away in twenty twenty,

475
00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:36.000
Shark Beach, Jolt, Joe Versus Carol, the Peacock series with

476
00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:39.680
the Joe Exotic, Oh Gosh Yeah, Miss Marvel in twenty

477
00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:41.599
twenty two, The Old Man in twenty twenty two, and

478
00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:44.319
most recently, Percy Jackson series on Disney Plus in twenty

479
00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:44.720
twenty three.

480
00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:46.720
Okay, all right to be.

481
00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:48.839
Synopsis of the film says, a boy who has a

482
00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:52.319
bad Christmas accidentally summons a festive demon to his family home.

483
00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:56.960
I mean that's pretty, I mean it's accurate. It's a

484
00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:00.759
little plain janeopsis.

485
00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:04.119
When Max's family Christmas brings nothing but dysfunction in fights,

486
00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:07.079
Max angrily destroys his letter to Santa, which summons crampis,

487
00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:09.000
an ancient demon who punishes the naughty.

488
00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:13.200
It's not bad, but poor grammar.

489
00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:13.880
Poor grammar.

490
00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:16.960
You used Max twice in a row when you should

491
00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:17.920
have put his or he.

492
00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:20.160
Oh, yeah, I guess I should have go to hell.

493
00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:22.880
Do you have any idea how much proofreading I do

494
00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:23.720
in a week?

495
00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:25.920
Yeah?

496
00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:27.759
How many times? I'm like, why does it say Debbie

497
00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.319
went to the door and opened it? Debbie was wondering

498
00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:31.759
what was that? It's like, well, there's nobody else here,

499
00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:34.039
so we could say she yeah one time.

500
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:34.680
That's fair.

501
00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.200
So what I'm saying is college. He went to.

502
00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:42.119
Film school, which also got federally shut down and investigated.

503
00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:44.799
Yeah, but you also went you also finished high school.

504
00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:47.160
You should you should at least you should at least

505
00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:50.039
be a little bit better at something with the with

506
00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:51.680
the writing, reading, and arithmetic.

507
00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:53.920
I took creative writing my senior year. Thank you very

508
00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:56.200
fucking much. Where'd you take it high school? I mean,

509
00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:57.839
where'd you take it too? Like got back to shoot it?

510
00:23:57.920 --> 00:23:58.720
Or in the ass.

511
00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:04.079
That's a very offensive thing to say. Tagline apologize for everybody.

512
00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:07.720
Taglines include you don't want to be on his list?

513
00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:10.759
Is coming to town?

514
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:13.039
Yeah, that's a good one.

515
00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:14.359
You better watch out.

516
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:17.119
I mean that's a really I mean, that's a classic.

517
00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:22.559
When the Christmas spirit is lost, he arrives, I.

518
00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:24.599
Don't know if that's a good tagline, but I like

519
00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:26.319
it because I like the movie.

520
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:31.480
Will You Survive Christmas? And then he sees you when

521
00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:33.759
you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake. He knows if

522
00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:35.799
you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake.

523
00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:41.079
Hey, that's just an entire verse of a song. Yes,

524
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:43.839
those are all fine.

525
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.000
It's coming town. It's probably good. My favorite, I think

526
00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:49.200
is when the Christ of Spirit is lost to her arrives.

527
00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:50.440
That's pretty good one too.

528
00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:52.400
I like that one. Moving down to our cast, we

529
00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:54.640
have Adam Scott in the film, who plays Tom one

530
00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:56.200
hundred and thirty CITs on his resume.

531
00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:59.720
By the way, Wow that I'm actually kind of surprised.

532
00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:01.359
Just wa till we get to another person on here.

533
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:03.720
So he gets to start in ninety four at Dead

534
00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:06.440
at twenty one, goes onto Er in ninety five, Boy

535
00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:10.039
Meets World, NYPD, Blue Hell, Razor blood Line in ninety.

536
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:12.319
Six, his finest feature film.

537
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:13.960
Star Trek First Contact in ninety six?

538
00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:16.519
Who the hell did he play in Star Trek First Contact?

539
00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:21.079
I didn't look. I apologize, you hate me. I'll look

540
00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:24.240
after the show, I promise. Party of Five in ninety eight,

541
00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:27.039
High Crime, Six Feet Under Torque in two thousand and four,

542
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:31.440
CSI Miami, The Aviator, The Matador of Veronica, Mars, Monster

543
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:34.480
in Law in two thousand and six, Lawn Order, Knocked Up,

544
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.559
Step Brothers. One of his most famous probably Party Down

545
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:39.599
in two thousand and nine Leap Year, followed by the

546
00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:43.079
Sarah Silverman Program in twenty ten, Piranha three D, Eastbound

547
00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:45.960
and Down, American Dad, Parks and Reck Our Idiot Brother,

548
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:51.480
The Guilt Trip, Drunk History, Black Mass, Crampisveep, Little Evil,

549
00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:55.720
Disaster Artists, The Good Place, Big Little Lies, Severance, and

550
00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:58.200
most recently in twenty twenty four, Madam Webb.

551
00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:03.720
I totally remember Adam Scott in Star Trek. First, Yeah,

552
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.839
he is the ops manager on the USS Defiant that's

553
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:10.559
captained by Wharf. Okay, he has a line he actually

554
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:13.000
says like something along the lines like our shields are failing,

555
00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:16.400
like you know, what do we do? And then Wharf

556
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:19.720
is like rhyming speed. But then they get saved by Picard.

557
00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:22.920
That's one of my favorite parts of the movie because

558
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:25.440
when they when they save him, they say the defianc

559
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.519
aer and they're like damaged, but salvageable, tough little ship,

560
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:32.960
and he looks right at Breaker and goes little I

561
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:33.920
Love Star Trek.

562
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.720
Moving down to Oecast is Tony Collette, who plays Sarah

563
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:38.839
in the film She Gets Her Started in nineteen ninety

564
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.759
with a Country Practice, followed by Muriel's wedding in ninety four,

565
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.599
Emma Velvet gold Mine in ninety eight, The Sixth Sense

566
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:46.319
of ninety nine, which I always forget. She's the mom in.

567
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:49.319
Oh Yeah, Yeah she is. Well, it's just like it's

568
00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:52.599
funny because like Adam Scott's another example, I never really

569
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.680
recalled him being like a super sitcom regular for a

570
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.319
decade or more. I remember him really kind of hitting

571
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:01.960
after party down. Yeah for the most part.

572
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.880
Yeah, Shaft in two thousand, Dinner with Friends in two

573
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.880
thousand and one, Changing Lanes about a Boy the Hours,

574
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:10.400
Connie and Carla in Her Shoes in two thousand and five,

575
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.759
Little the Sunshine in two thousand and six, The Night

576
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.440
Listener Evening, How to Lose Friends, and Alien eight People

577
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:17.799
in two thousand and eight, United States Tear in twousand nine.

578
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:19.799
You ever watched that show? No, it is a really

579
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:21.759
good show that I cannot recommend enough. Where she has

580
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:26.279
multiple personalities. Hmm, it's really good. Fright Night remake in

581
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:29.960
twenty eleven, Hitchcock The Way Way Back, Enough said Tammy,

582
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:33.559
The Box Strolls, Crampus in twenty fifteen, Imperium Triple X

583
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:36.640
Return of Xander Cage, which I completely find she was in.

584
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.319
A real feature film.

585
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:42.400
Please stand by Hereditary Wonderluss, Velvet Buzz Saw, which I

586
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:43.039
forgot about.

587
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:45.480
Oh wait that arts scene.

588
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:49.200
Oh I like Velvet buzz Knives Out, Nightmare Alley, Mafia

589
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:50.359
Mama in twenty twenty three.

590
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:52.279
Ah, yes, your favorite.

591
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:53.519
I liked Mafia Mama.

592
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.279
There's nothing wrong with it, but after watching it, I

593
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.279
was like, I see why it underperformed.

594
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:01.119
Yeah. Think they put a little too much in the

595
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:02.160
basket on that movie.

596
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:05.559
That's a phrasing I've never heard before, but I think

597
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:06.000
it's fair.

598
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:08.880
Ruby Gilman Teenage Cracket in twenty twenty three, and most

599
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:12.079
recently is Endured Number two in twenty twenty four MM,

600
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:13.119
which I did not know.

601
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:16.039
Yeah, yeah, I really want to see that.

602
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:18.000
Moving down to the end of our cast, we have

603
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.319
David Keckner, who plays Howard in the film two one

604
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:22.119
hundred and fifteen credits on his.

605
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:24.519
How can you say Kechner, but not Doherty.

606
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:26.279
Because I've heard Keckner many times and also listen to

607
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:31.160
a couple of podcasts he's on. I thought it was Doggerty.

608
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:34.000
I'm being dead serious, Doty, I thought it was Doggerty.

609
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:38.640
I'm sorry, that's okay. The Jamie Fox Show in nineteen

610
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.680
ninety six, Matt About You, Wag the Dog, Dirty Work

611
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.359
in ninety eight, Man on the Moon, Out Cold Run,

612
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.960
Ronnie Run, Greg the Bunny. Remember Greg the Bunny?

613
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:48.839
Of course I remember Greg the Bunny.

614
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.880
A guy thing my boss's daughter Anchorman in two thousand

615
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.359
and four, forty year Old Virgin the Office, Thank you

616
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.440
for smoking, which I love. Thank you for smoking, and

617
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:57.119
may come to the show.

618
00:28:57.400 --> 00:28:59.119
I know you do Waiting.

619
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.039
In two thousand and five Talladay, Good Nights, The Bout

620
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:04.319
a Ricky Bobby Snakes on a Plane, Balls of Fury, Semipro,

621
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:08.160
The Goods Live, Hard, Sell Hard, Extract, Hannah Montana, Final

622
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:12.359
Destination five, Piranha three, Double D Cheap Thrills, Justified. Then

623
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.119
he does Crampus in twenty fifteen, Twin Peaks Revival in

624
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.480
twenty seventeen, Future Man in twenty seventeen Drunk History Vicious

625
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:19.880
Fun in twenty twenty, which I love that.

626
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:22.599
I like Vicious a lot of fun, so it was

627
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:23.359
Vicious fun.

628
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:24.240
But uh.

629
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.759
So. Keckner is a guy who I remembered being the

630
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:34.400
sitcom goofy guy that popped up in everything, but after Anchorman,

631
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:37.440
all of a sudden he was everywhere. He was just

632
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:41.480
the funny guy in basically everything. Yeah, and rightfully so,

633
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:43.839
he's super funny. I think one of my favorite performances

634
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:46.759
of his is in Cheap Thrills, Cheaprill. He's so good

635
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:47.400
in cheap thrills.

636
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:48.680
We may have to do cheap Thrills. It's been a

637
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.079
wats of scene it. I remember loving it.

638
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:51.799
It's been a long time since I've watched it.

639
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:54.400
That might be one. So what was your first time

640
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.119
watching Crampish?

641
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:58.839
One of the three times I went to the theater

642
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:03.640
to watch it because I loved Crampis so much when

643
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:08.079
it first came out. I saw it the opening.

644
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.400
We saw we saw it opening night. It was the

645
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:10.720
Thursday premiere.

646
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:14.400
And and I just remember liking it so much that

647
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.400
anyone I talked to who would be like, oh yeah,

648
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:18.880
I was wondering about that, I'm like, let's go see it.

649
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:19.119
Yeah.

650
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.160
Yeah, so I saw it three times. At least I

651
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.279
believe it was three in the theater. I feel like

652
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:27.279
i'd remember if it was four, because usually it's always

653
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:29.640
three if I really love a movie. Yeah, I mean

654
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.640
I was already a nerd for Trick or Treat and

655
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:36.440
I thought, uh, dogger Tea, I think that he has

656
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:43.640
an incredible flair for mythos and mythology. So I was like, hell, yeah,

657
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:47.000
let's do Christmas, because I am I do not understand

658
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:52.559
the people who deny that Christmas is easily nearly as

659
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:57.720
scary as Halloween. Yeah, just the the the whole. I

660
00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.680
mean people could be like, well but it all you know,

661
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:01.839
the basis, basis basis is like a way in a

662
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.240
major bubble. It's like church. Sure, but the basis basis

663
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.720
base of Halloween was like we want our crops to

664
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.079
be good and like we miss our loved ones, and

665
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:13.200
then it became spooky as shit. Christmas. There's there's a

666
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:16.279
long standing history of ghost stories at Christmas. Yeah, there's

667
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.160
a long standing history of you know, the whole I mean,

668
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.839
the whole Santa thing. Well but not just that, but like,

669
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.079
think about if you didn't know who Santa was if

670
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.519
you'd never heard that story before, if it wasn't normalized

671
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:30.839
in any way to you, and then somebody came to

672
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:35.680
you like, yeah, yeah, there's this stranger who knows you implicitly.

673
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.039
He watches you, he knows when you're sleeping, he knows

674
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:43.160
when you're awake. He judges you and writes in a

675
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.640
list if you've been good or bad. Yeah, it is

676
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:47.319
a little scary.

677
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:49.200
It's very scary. It's it's very unsettling.

678
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:51.279
But but you know, and I know that that's a

679
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.039
lot of people have pointed that out over the years.

680
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.880
It's not a new take or anything, so there's a

681
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:58.279
lot of room for that. But the biggest thing is

682
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.039
and Halloween has been trying to kind of catch up

683
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:06.960
with this. Yeah, Christmas is a great setting for just

684
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.160
about any story because if you grow up in the

685
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.839
United States of America in particular.

686
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:25.160
Do you even movie will be right back? Welcome back

687
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:31.680
to do you even movie?

688
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:36.920
The lights, the decor, the music, everything. One of the

689
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.880
reasons I love Christmas is because it's the time of

690
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:43.039
year that is different from all other times of year. Yeah,

691
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:45.920
I love that. I think it's awesome that, like houses

692
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:49.960
look different during Christmas time. I think that's really amazing.

693
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.640
And like I said, Halloween's really been pushing that. I mean,

694
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:56.160
every year there's more Halloween lights, there's more you know,

695
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.440
Halloween yard ornaments and things like that. And I like

696
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:01.480
that too, like the idea that around Halloween you're starting

697
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.200
to notice you know, giant inflatable jackoe lanterns and twelve

698
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:09.519
foot tall skeletons in people's yards. It's fun because regular,

699
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:13.599
everyday life is so the same, and it's supposed to be.

700
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:15.480
I mean, you don't want it to be one day

701
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:17.039
you have a house, one day it's on fire. You

702
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:18.279
know that's that's not good.

703
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:19.319
It would not be good.

704
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.920
But there's so much the same so often. I love

705
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.960
the idea that as the year winds down, we throw

706
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:28.480
up some lights and we sing some songs that are fun,

707
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.400
and our movies are cute and they're all about a

708
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:32.920
high powered business woman who needs the penis of a

709
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.279
man from a small town to help her realize there's

710
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.960
more to life than work. That is what I love

711
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:45.240
about the holidays. What I say the truth, Oh, I

712
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.440
gotta stop doing that. But so I love Christmas anyway,

713
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.759
and I believe that it is the perfect setting. I'm

714
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.599
not saying that every movie should take place on Christmas, yeah,

715
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.480
but I would say that many almost any film would

716
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.039
be elevated by being set at Christmas.

717
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:04.960
I think, I think, honestly that is absolutely true, because

718
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.599
we pride ourselves on like literally watching movies and being like, oh,

719
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:10.400
it's a Christmas movie because like we see lights one

720
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:12.519
and that almost like gives it like an extra star

721
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:14.880
immediately just for that. Well, I mean that might just

722
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:16.159
be us, So I get that.

723
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:17.800
We also like to do that if the movie is

724
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.280
particularly like themed poorly for Christmas, Like if it's a

725
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:23.920
bank heist movie and a woman just got shot in

726
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:26.440
the head, then they drive by some lights in a

727
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.079
while we go, hey, Christmas movie.

728
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.199
I mean, I think The Testament by far is still

729
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:30.760
eaten alive.

730
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:33.639
Oh yeah, that's a Christmas movie. There's a Santa Claus

731
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:36.239
in that, God damn it. And I ordered the four K.

732
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:40.639
Don't worry. But no, So with that being set, and

733
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.320
that's why I have the Christmas scale of one to ten.

734
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.039
How Christmas is this movie? Crampis is a ten.

735
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:47.480
Oh, there's no doubt about it.

736
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:49.679
Well, it has to be because, as as I've mentioned,

737
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.679
you can't get past eight unless the story is directly related,

738
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:56.599
as in, without Christmas, there is no story the story. Yeah,

739
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:59.400
So you know, even because even you could make arguments

740
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:01.960
about movies like, oh, they're stealing something on Christmas Eve,

741
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:04.440
because everybody that's that's borderline.

742
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:06.840
Have you seen the newest hot topic, not the not

743
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.679
the store, an actual topic that people are talking about.

744
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.199
What Lethal Weapon is more of a Christmas movie than

745
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:12.559
die Hard?

746
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:14.480
I I don't know.

747
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:15.400
I don't.

748
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:19.719
See. You're gonna get in the weeds with that because

749
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.880
they both are said at Christmas yea, and they're both

750
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.280
set in Los Angeles, so neither of them have no

751
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:30.400
other than the cocaine, which both movies have cocaine because

752
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:33.920
Jerry Silver was or not Jerry Joel Silver was involved.

753
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.320
Barry Silver of Joel Silver's cocaine.

754
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:40.400
Guy, Joe Silver's cocaine guy also maybe his brother I forget,

755
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:46.159
I do too much cocaine. But so, I don't know,

756
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.360
like I would have to watch Lethal Weapon again like

757
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.360
now to really say, but I feel like there's almost

758
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:56.199
no Christmas music cues other than maybe Christmas music as

759
00:35:56.199 --> 00:36:00.199
to where like Diehard uses sleigh bells in the score, yeah, le.

760
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:03.920
Well, of course, and then closes with have yourself a

761
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:07.639
Merry Little Christmas. But as far as the Christmas approach

762
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:11.079
from die Hard, Christmas is all throughout Knacotomi. Yeah, Lethal

763
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.280
Weapon has like maybe a few shots, and I mean

764
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:14.559
it does have the fight in the Christmas tree.

765
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:17.760
We well, they're also going they're like lots of locations too.

766
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.440
We're set in an office building on a Christmas party,

767
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:23.920
so it's going to have more Christmas iconography anyhow. Yeah,

768
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:26.000
but my point is that I feel like die Hard

769
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:31.719
played with the concept more than Lethal Weapon, just from

770
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:34.280
the fact that they would they leaned into having sleigh

771
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:38.039
bells in the actual score. You know, using Christmas songs

772
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:40.880
is great and all, but having that that those moments

773
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:43.360
where John McClain is trying to to get away and

774
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:48.760
the and the it's playing it up. So in that way,

775
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.639
I think it's it's a little bit more Christmas y, uh,

776
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:56.000
not immensely higher on the Christmas scale. But then I mean,

777
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:59.480
what's really Christmasy? Is die Hard too, die Harder because

778
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:07.239
there's a snowstorm, it's holiday travel, there's Santa stuff. That

779
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:09.039
one is a lot more Christmas y.

780
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:11.800
Yeah, No, what absolutely. I think leth a Weapon definitely

781
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.880
has a case to be made. But I feel like

782
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:16.840
die Hard is the stronger of the two, and that

783
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:18.920
could just be my personal opinion that I mean, I

784
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:23.119
may not have everything broken down, but distinctly for Lethal Weapon,

785
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.519
I remember the final fight with a Christmas tree where

786
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:27.079
they ram the car through the house and then he

787
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.079
fights Bucy and whatnot. As far as other Christmas things

788
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:33.280
in that movie, like, yeah, Gibson's watching Looney Tunes Christmas

789
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:35.360
Special at one point, like I said, opens a jingle

790
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:36.840
bell rock. I just feel like there's a lot more

791
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.159
I can name in die Hard that is not present

792
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:39.800
in Lethal Weapon.

793
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:43.159
Well, the inciting incident of die Hard is a Christmas party. Yeah,

794
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:44.960
and that's a big plus.

795
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:45.239
Yeah.

796
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.760
Again, I don't think that makes the movie incredibly christmasy.

797
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.039
But there's no you know, that's not the inciting incident.

798
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:55.960
It's not like, you know, Mertaw becomes Riggs's partner because

799
00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:59.239
Magic Reindeer told me had to, which would be awesome.

800
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:03.360
And there is also weapon because that is in the office.

801
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:04.239
Oh you're not wrong.

802
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:06.960
So yeah, I mean, I guess I need a fresh

803
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:07.400
eye watch on.

804
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.079
I think the real problem is people are looking for

805
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:12.719
something new to be an edge lord about now that

806
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:16.119
they're now that die Hard is inarguably a Christmas movie

807
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:19.599
to most people, I don't understand that fight. I mean,

808
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:24.199
it's not a movie about Christmas. I agree, but you know,

809
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:26.079
but if you want, if you want to make that

810
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:29.159
the line of what's a Christmas movie? Is it about Christmas?

811
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:32.239
Then you have to debate home alone. You have to.

812
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:35.159
Basically you end up left with just like the Santa

813
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.840
Claus and one Magic Christmas. But then stuff like that.

814
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.880
You don't have to debate Terrifier three because it's Christmas af.

815
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.199
Well, yeah, I mean, but that was but that was

816
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.119
a marketing point too. I mean, I'm just saying, like

817
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:50.480
there's no Christmas stuff on either Lethal Weapon or Diehard posters.

818
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:53.920
You know, it's not sold as.

819
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.559
Christmas under missiletoe with their.

820
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.039
I mean, that would be a great poster, that would

821
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.039
be a great one. They need to do that for

822
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.679
a Lethal Weapon five. It needs to go all Christmas, Christmas,

823
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:13.039
just entirely Christmas. But anyway, no, but yeah, I think

824
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:15.119
that they just want a new debate because the Diehard

825
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.000
is or isn't a Christmas movie debate has leaned quite

826
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:20.000
a bit. I don't even know which side annways be

827
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:21.639
more the side that says it is or isn't.

828
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:23.400
At this point, I just accept that The Diehard is

829
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:25.519
a Christmas movie to me because I'll watch it every

830
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:27.360
December first while I put it my tree. So that's

831
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:28.679
just my tradition.

832
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:33.239
Now, I mean that's fine. Yeah you're not smart, so

833
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:36.039
I said I was no, But I mean, yeah, there

834
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:37.559
are a lot of I mean, like, to me, you know,

835
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.679
my favorite Christmas movie. And I'm not even trying to

836
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.079
be edgy. A silent Night, deadly night. And that's not

837
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:44.800
believe it or not. It's not because I want to

838
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.280
be able to say it's a horror movie. Blah blah

839
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:48.840
blah blah blah. Yeah, I just think it's a really

840
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:51.679
like I actually feel really Christmas y when I watch it.

841
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.960
It has become a special presentation for me every year,

842
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:56.960
like like I don't have it planned. I just have

843
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:58.960
it planned in the rotation. I don't know what damn

844
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:00.119
wan to watch it. But there will be an night

845
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.440
where I'll be like, yeah, I got some megnong, I

846
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:04.239
got nothing to do. I'm popping on silent.

847
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:07.119
See I put on two for no good reason. Yeah,

848
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.960
but I put on one with a lot of thought.

849
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:12.480
I have to get five into the rotation this year,

850
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:14.639
because that's the only one not logged on my letterbox

851
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:15.039
right now.

852
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:16.639
I can't believe we have blu rays of all of

853
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:19.639
the time. There was a time when all I had

854
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:24.199
for the VHS rips of them and a VHS copy

855
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:26.599
of three and official VHS and then I had that

856
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:29.119
out of print DVD that kept coming back into print.

857
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:31.039
But yeah, this and and that's the thing. You know,

858
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:33.519
if you want your if you want edgy Christmas movies

859
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:36.360
out your butt, you've got five Silent Night, deadly Night

860
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.239
movies to enjoy. Well, well I count five, ye fair

861
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:41.440
Silent Night nothing. I actually really liked that movie. It's good,

862
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:43.360
but it is not a silent deadly night movie.

863
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:43.559
No.

864
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:47.000
I mean, it has notes, but it has nothing to

865
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:47.280
do with this.

866
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:51.159
It's a great actiony horror flick and it's and it's Christmas,

867
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:54.280
very Christmas, but it just it doesn't have any of

868
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.239
the vibes of silent Night, deadly night movies. That's all.

869
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:58.800
Did I tell you that five was the only one

870
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:00.960
I owned on VHS? When I said my VHS collection.

871
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.440
I mean, good for you, though I founded it around

872
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:06.280
about books. You do love you some Mickey Rooney who

873
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:09.480
hated Silent at Deadly Night, well until he had gambling debts,

874
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:11.719
I think, yeah, or just joined a movie that was

875
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:13.920
called The Toymaker and then got relabeled.

876
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:15.639
No, he knew what he was doing, all right. That

877
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:18.639
company had already made two other fucking Silent a Deadly

878
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:19.159
Night movie.

879
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:19.599
That's fair.

880
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:32.440
Do You Even? Movie will be right back, welcome back

881
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:33.719
to do You Even?

882
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:35.639
Movie?

883
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:40.159
So you're ready to go to the crampus?

884
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:43.119
What is that now? I was literally about to say, David,

885
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.920
why did you keep this conversation going? Horrible movie?

886
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.480
Because this is our Christmas Eves show. We can go crazy?

887
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:54.960
We can, we can. There's my gun? Oh? Oh my god? What? No?

888
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:57.719
I just need to say something. No, No, I've been

889
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:02.639
looking for this. I've been looking. Okay, so for those listening,

890
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:06.320
I am holding up a cardigan. I have been looking.

891
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:07.960
I have two cardigans, the one I'm wearing right now,

892
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:09.840
which is gold, and this red blue one. I have

893
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:13.239
been looking all over my house for that cardigan. And

894
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:18.440
it was on my life. It was on an equipment rack. Yeah, yeah,

895
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.360
I just looked over and went, hey, what's that? And

896
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:23.519
there it was, there it was, and here I thought,

897
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:27.599
Rachel accidentally put it in the shed. Talk about crampus,

898
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:28.079
you fuck.

899
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:32.519
We open with a frozen Universal logo accompanied by wind,

900
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:35.280
sleigh bells and just eerie sounds.

901
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.360
That's one way to put it. Yeah, how did you

902
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.679
feel about it about me booming that fucking soundtrack out

903
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:42.440
of the five point one?

904
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:45.320
I mean that the four First off, the four K

905
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:46.480
of this movie is gorgeous.

906
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:47.400
It's incredible.

907
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:51.440
It's incredible, but the sound mix is phenomenal.

908
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:56.519
Yeah. I recently upgraded my entire home theater a lot. Yes,

909
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:01.800
I upgraded my television to an LED. I upgraded my

910
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:05.280
projector to a four K DISH project It's a long story.

911
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:07.559
Get me started. It looks amazing. It's a four K

912
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.840
HDR projector. It I had no idea how not great

913
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:12.960
my old projector looked until I hooked that fucker up.

914
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:16.119
It made your blu ray of Dutch look the best

915
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:17.079
I've ever seen Dutch.

916
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:17.920
Yeah, it was stupid.

917
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:18.159
Yeah.

918
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:22.719
And then but the Coup de Gras, the PSDA Resistance,

919
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.280
the Omles de roumage.

920
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:27.800
Was did you just know you didn't.

921
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:32.159
Yeah, I just said cheese omelet Dexter Laboratory. Oh oh yeah,

922
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:37.239
yeah yeah, uh is. I realized as I was upgrading

923
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:38.880
all of these things I was trying, I was basically

924
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:43.039
getting myself a gift for having to work, uh like

925
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:46.360
on average eighty five hours a week in October. So

926
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:48.519
I was like, I deserve a new TV. I deserve

927
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:50.360
and then Dave got my old one because I'm way

928
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:56.719
too nice, So I am, but uh so, But as

929
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.159
I was looking everything, I was like, man, my surround

930
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:02.320
system was always bottom of the barrel. I got it used.

931
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:04.880
It's very very cheap, it's not very loud. It was

932
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.320
always fine, but hooking it up to the new system

933
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.280
was actually really challenging. And I was about to buy

934
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:11.880
a bunch of connectors and stuff, and then I was like,

935
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.519
why don't I get a modern sound system? So I

936
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:17.360
found one on sale because it was it was right,

937
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:20.519
it was on Black Friday. So I got like last

938
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:25.800
year's Samsung Surround sound system and it's nuts, it booms,

939
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.679
it shakes the house. Rachel has been like during actually

940
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:31.519
was no, it was before Black Friday. It was it

941
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:33.400
was it was in October. I bought it because I

942
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.280
was watching Halloween movies and Rachel was like, I could

943
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:38.920
feel the base of the of the theme songs when

944
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:42.320
you watch them anyway, But it is I had no

945
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.880
idea how much more I could elevate the home viewing process.

946
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:47.880
But now it's just obscene.

947
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:49.519
It's amazing and but.

948
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.199
No so but crampis my point. It is actually related

949
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:56.639
to the topic shocking. But Crampus has a great a

950
00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:01.639
great sound sound design and soundtrack, and you know those

951
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:04.960
moments where something scary was happening, I mean there would

952
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.320
be a rumble in the house and it would be

953
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:11.480
super super loud, which I think made it even more

954
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:15.000
fun to watch. That four K looked amazing. I can't

955
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.280
recommend enough if you're a bit of a video snob,

956
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:19.400
or if you're a bit of a of a cinophile

957
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:24.440
snob and you love and you're already like HDR four K,

958
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.199
that's what's up. This is the only time in grants

959
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.360
that I've only watched a few in full HDR movies.

960
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:32.519
This is the first time I've watched a movie in

961
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:36.280
HDR and went this is good for this movie because

962
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.320
the scenes where they're outside in the winter terror land

963
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:41.760
and trying to figure out, you know, what's going on.

964
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:47.159
Those scenes were always like very desaturated but kind of bright,

965
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:48.480
because you know, you had to be able to see them.

966
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:48.719
Yeah.

967
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:50.480
Well, for those who don't know HDR, all it does

968
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.960
is make it so that there's way more detail in

969
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.840
the darker images and way more detail in the lighter images.

970
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:59.639
It expands that spectrum, the difference between light and dark.

971
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:03.679
So on this one, watching it for the first time

972
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.519
in HGR, I was shocked how dark when they were

973
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.519
outside and the sun was supposed to get down it was,

974
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:11.679
but we could still see everything. It was just dark,

975
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:14.960
and that was a really cool experience. I was surprised

976
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.199
how much I thought that looked amazing, because you know,

977
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:22.039
usually we fake making things look dark on videotape on movies,

978
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:24.400
but this time around, it was just like I was like,

979
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:28.039
holy crap, I'm getting so much out of this. So

980
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.119
I will say, yeah, if you're like somebody who has

981
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.119
like a really nice setup and you love that four

982
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:35.400
KHGR stuff, this is one two upgrade. And this is

983
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.199
the first time I've went, oh my god, the HDR

984
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:41.159
on this was just wow. Yeah, So anyway, sorry, no,

985
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:42.599
I don't want your things.

986
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.320
So then we begin to hear it's beginning to look

987
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:48.119
a lot like Christmas, as it sang to us over

988
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:52.599
footage of a Black Friday at a at a megamol basically.

989
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.440
Which and hearkening to a simpler, better.

990
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:56.760
Time, simpler better times.

991
00:46:57.079 --> 00:46:59.960
So friends who think that there are still Black Friday rites,

992
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:03.480
there aren't. That that was a brief That was a

993
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:06.880
brief era of human history where they were like people

994
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:10.079
were like stomping over each other to get stuff. That

995
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:13.400
doesn't happen anymore. The stores figured out how to organize

996
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.559
it so that people are not freaking out, so.

997
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:17.639
We don't pull as the opening of Thanksgiving.

998
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:19.920
Well, and on top of that, I mean but you know,

999
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.159
I you know, we priced cutting is not like it

1000
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:26.519
used to be anyway, so the sales aren't as obscene anymore.

1001
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:28.920
So we're not like desperate. Yeah, because Dave and I

1002
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.079
used to go on Black Friday to best Buy.

1003
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.320
Yeah, best Buy, and I would even hit Walmart sometimes.

1004
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:35.320
Walmart. I mean I was shocked one time they had

1005
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.079
like a bunch of Blu rays on sale, yeah, and

1006
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:38.920
I wasn't going to go. It's like, oh, on Black Friday.

1007
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:40.719
And my cousin Jeff was like, I just walked in,

1008
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:43.440
got five six blu rays, checked out, went home, and

1009
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:44.920
I was like, how long were you there? It's like

1010
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:45.599
twenty minutes.

1011
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:47.280
I will say Black Friday is the only time I've

1012
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:49.239
ever seen a TV legit get stolen out the front

1013
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:49.960
doorbal Walmart.

1014
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.119
Well, I mean that's because you live in a very

1015
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:53.480
nice area comparatively.

1016
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:54.880
That was in college.

1017
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:58.119
Oh yeah, that was amazing.

1018
00:47:58.599 --> 00:47:58.920
Yeah.

1019
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.280
The funny thing about my My area is not too bad,

1020
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:03.480
but my nearest Walmart is in a rougher area. It is.

1021
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:05.840
My mom would refuse to ever go there. She'd be like,

1022
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:07.639
get shot there, and I'd be like, well are you

1023
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:09.039
going there to sling drugs? Mom?

1024
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:10.800
I mean I've been at the Miller Lane one a

1025
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:12.960
couple times and question why I was there.

1026
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:18.360
Oh dear so So the Black Friday Sale is beginning.

1027
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:21.199
It's played in slow motion to beautiful Christmas music. It's

1028
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:25.239
very bright and shiny. We're seeing money being exchanged, people

1029
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:26.360
fighting over things.

1030
00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:30.159
Fighting over things, security dragging people away, hitting them with tasers,

1031
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:31.719
and just grinning while they do it.

1032
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:34.280
The one I will say that I love yeah is

1033
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:37.480
one of the more subtle ones, which is as somebody's

1034
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.519
buying something. If they're handing her back her change for

1035
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:42.519
her stuff, she just looks miser sad. She just looks

1036
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.920
like yay. And that one hit me because I was like,

1037
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:48.760
damn okay, because I think buying gifts is fun. Yeah.

1038
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.239
We also see a family trying to get their kids

1039
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.079
to take a picture with Sanna and one of them

1040
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.559
is crying. Santa doesn't look amused, neither does the elf.

1041
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:59.159
We also see that, uh, there's just cashiers, like Enrique said,

1042
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.800
just lifeless behind the counter. And then we meet Max

1043
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.239
and his family as they're at a Christmas play that's

1044
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.840
happening in the mart and Max is rolling on the

1045
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:09.480
ground with one of the guys that's playing one of

1046
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.480
the kids that's playing a shepherd and just beating the

1047
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:12.280
ever loving shit.

1048
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:12.639
Yeah.

1049
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.280
All played in slow motion with the up tempo music.

1050
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:17.559
I'll you know, I'm just gonna give this movie a

1051
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:19.599
pass on. Why is there a pageant inside of a

1052
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:20.239
department store?

1053
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:21.480
Yeah, I was one of the same thing. But then

1054
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:23.400
I also love Where the Heart Is and that movie

1055
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:24.920
ends with the wedding inside of Walmart.

1056
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:31.719
All I'm saying is movie about an evil Christmas demon. Yeah,

1057
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:33.280
could you please be more realistic.

1058
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.480
So we also see that Max's sister Beth is just

1059
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.960
grinning as they're as she's taking video of this happening.

1060
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:42.519
Tom and Sarah, which are his parents, go up and

1061
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:44.000
pull them off, and then that's when we get the

1062
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.559
crampest title card. And we come back home as they're

1063
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:50.079
returning from the Christmas pageant, and Omi is there, which

1064
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:52.320
is the grandmother. She's watching a Christmas car on the TV,

1065
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.039
and they're all scolding Max except for Omie about the fight.

1066
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:56.920
Basically, well, Oomie's just not saying much.

1067
00:49:57.039 --> 00:49:59.519
No, no, she's not. She's making Christmas cookies, having a

1068
00:49:59.519 --> 00:49:59.880
good time.

1069
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.639
I mean she seems contented. She by German standards. She

1070
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:11.159
is jubilant. Yeah, she is like leaking happiness by German standards.

1071
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:13.119
So Max is trying to argue his point that the

1072
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:16.000
kid was saying things about Santa Claus not being real

1073
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.320
and he was trying to protect the holiday, and that's

1074
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:19.920
when his family is just like, you know, well this

1075
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:21.800
is like too much. You know, we got family coming over,

1076
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:23.320
you know, get yourself cleaned up. And he's like, well,

1077
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.400
an't we gonna watch Charlie Brown a rap presence? And

1078
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:26.719
that's when his dad's like, you know, not for what

1079
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:28.599
you just pulled. You know, actually, if you're gonna do that,

1080
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:30.280
like get on it. They're gonna be here any minute.

1081
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:33.599
Yeah. Yeah, So it's clear that this year's Christmas is

1082
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:36.760
coming off as kind of an afterthought to everybody except

1083
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:37.800
young Max. Yeah.

1084
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.920
So Sarah, Tom and his sister Beth walk out of

1085
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:42.719
the kitchen, and that's an Omi ass mask if he's

1086
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:44.639
Max if he's finished his letter to Santa yet, and

1087
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:47.119
he shows it to her. That's when Sarah is shown

1088
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:49.039
hanging the picture of Santa that there's bra and that's

1089
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.000
when we see that Santa was checking out Beth in

1090
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:51.840
the picture as well.

1091
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:56.320
Yeah, it's great because he just looks at the picture

1092
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:57.840
and then all of a sudden, her eyes kind of frow.

1093
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:00.920
She's like yeah, and she's sees what's going on in

1094
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:01.360
the picture.

1095
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:14.119
Do you Even? Movie will be right back, Welcome back

1096
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:15.360
to Do You Even?

1097
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:18.039
Movie?

1098
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.000
So we cut back to Omi and Max ask her

1099
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:25.079
if she really believes in Santa, and that's when Omi

1100
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:27.079
tells him that, you know, believing in Santa is the

1101
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.480
true Christmas spirit, and that she believes in anything that

1102
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:31.760
keeps the spirit alive, and she also believes in dessert

1103
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:33.800
before dinner and gives Max a cookie. It's really sweet,

1104
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:34.519
it is.

1105
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.519
It's a great way to show like a sweet grandmother

1106
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:39.679
enabling their delinquent grandchild.

1107
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:41.920
So Beth is skype and her boyfriend upstairs. He's trying

1108
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:43.480
to get her to come over, but she's like, you know, no,

1109
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:45.320
we got the relatives coming over. And just as she

1110
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:48.199
says this, the house literally begins to shake.

1111
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:53.039
Yes, because your crazy uncle's here.

1112
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:55.400
Crazy uncle is here. We see that Tom is in

1113
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:57.760
his study pouring some scotch, and that's when we meet

1114
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.960
Linda and Howard along with their kids, Jordan ste Howie Junior,

1115
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:03.440
and they bring in a dish of mac and cheese.

1116
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:06.400
Howard comes in and drops presence, and that's when Max

1117
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.400
even tries to talk to Howe Junior about Sannah, and

1118
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:12.000
Howie Jr. Just kind of stares, stares straight ahead mute.

1119
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.239
Well, I don't think if he he says like three words, yeah,

1120
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.880
you know he he He has that kind of dough eyed,

1121
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:22.079
that boy ain't right kind of expression going, which is

1122
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.440
very very funny, especially because Max is a little nebbish,

1123
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:27.320
neurotic shit and he's just kind of.

1124
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:33.000
And meanwhile, Jordan and Stevie, his sisters are basically tom boys,

1125
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:36.159
and they notice right away that basically they are tom boys.

1126
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:38.519
They they are dressed like little boys.

1127
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:41.119
Yes, And that is when they noticed that Max's letter

1128
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:43.079
to Sanna is in the back pocket. So you think

1129
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.199
something's most likely gonna happen with that. Uh.

1130
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:45.599
Oh.

1131
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:48.440
Sarah is surprised by Linda, who also shows up bringing

1132
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:51.639
aunt Dorothy played by the great Conchata Farrell, who you

1133
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:53.920
may remember from was Two and a Half Men. She

1134
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:56.920
was from like everything. Yeah, I was gonna say.

1135
00:52:56.840 --> 00:53:00.599
She was either a key player or a walk on

1136
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:04.360
relative on like every sing thing. Yeah.

1137
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.000
So that is when she walks in the house and

1138
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:10.079
she's like, where's the nog? I need to get Mary.

1139
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:12.920
Show me where the nog. Is trying to get married.

1140
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:15.000
So she walks into the dining room makes a comment

1141
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:16.719
that it looks like Martha Stewart threw up in here.

1142
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:19.199
Tom takes notice that they're short of kid, and he's like,

1143
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:21.920
you know, don't you have another uh? And he's talking

1144
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:25.000
to Linda and she's like, oh, honey, we forgot the baby.

1145
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:26.880
So Tom and Howard go out to the car get

1146
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:29.119
baby crazy that happens, So now there's a baby in

1147
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.679
the mix as well. And that's when Sarah also kind

1148
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:34.039
of starts to rate Linda from bringing in Dorothy without

1149
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:36.400
warning because she's like, you know, well it's Christmas. You know,

1150
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:38.039
she's got nowhere to go. And actually she kind of

1151
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:39.679
ambushed us, like we came to the door to grab

1152
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:41.360
present more she shows up with her bag.

1153
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:43.639
Yeah, we came there to pick up presents and drop

1154
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:45.119
them off, and she had a bag.

1155
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:45.760
Yeah.

1156
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:47.400
And we see that the two sisters are kind of

1157
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:50.119
fighting a little bit, and that's when Linda states they're bickering,

1158
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:51.840
and that's when she states, you know that she thinks

1159
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:53.320
everything that she does is a mistake.

1160
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:57.440
So quick question, yes, sir, because I think it's important.

1161
00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:00.760
We've learned a lot about you this holiday. Fuck least

1162
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:02.039
favorite relative.

1163
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:10.880
Go, no comment, no comment?

1164
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:14.880
Are you sure? Yes, we're almost an hour into the show. No.

1165
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:16.639
If you don't like them, they probably don't like you

1166
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:17.800
enough to listen to your podcast.

1167
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:20.559
Mean that's fair. After last week's episode of of What

1168
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.400
I Unfolded on the show with my drunken Shenanigan story,

1169
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:23.960
I'm good this.

1170
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:26.159
Oh just wait, so you see the clip I made

1171
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:26.440
of it.

1172
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:27.519
I can't fucking wait.

1173
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:29.239
Actually it's already on the drop box?

1174
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:29.519
Is it?

1175
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:30.360
Enjoy? Oh?

1176
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.159
I think I looked at it earlier than shit. So

1177
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:35.440
they all sit down to dinner as Howie Junior's chugging

1178
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:38.079
from a Mountain dew two leader he belches and Howard's like, yeah,

1179
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:41.119
that's my boy. And that's when he talks about Tom's

1180
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:44.239
past with the Eagle Scouts. Because Tom tries to defend it,

1181
00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:46.199
stating that it was survival training. Howard's like, the only

1182
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:48.519
survival training he needs is his smoke polel which is

1183
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:49.199
his shotgun.

1184
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.400
You should start calling something you have a smoke pole.

1185
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:54.039
I don't care what it is, but you need to

1186
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:55.199
be saying smoke pole would.

1187
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:58.559
And that's when Linda also starts more bickering with Sarah

1188
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:00.559
about the food being too fancy, and she's like, you know,

1189
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:03.079
nothing's wrong with Mac and she's Stevie telling her.

1190
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:05.440
She says, I'm sorry, I thought you'd like a change

1191
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:07.239
from Mac Mac and hot dogs.

1192
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.400
Dorothy's like, nope, don't think so, no, no.

1193
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:11.840
She just says whatever, Yeah, no, no, that's actually a

1194
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:12.880
really important.

1195
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:14.239
Yeah.

1196
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:16.159
Oh well, but I mean when she said, tells her sister.

1197
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:18.280
I just want to point out that this is a

1198
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:21.199
really worthwhile moment because when she says that to her,

1199
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:26.800
she says, okay whatever, she's basically calling her sister white trash.

1200
00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:27.840
Yeah.

1201
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:32.400
But as the movie goes on, we realized that her

1202
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:35.519
sister and her husband, like, they don't have a lot

1203
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:39.000
of money, like they they're not, you know, because meanwhile

1204
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:42.360
their family's very wealthy. Of course they have that that

1205
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:46.159
classic they're very wealthy, but they're not happy. But I

1206
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:48.039
just want to mention like that little mom where says

1207
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:51.119
okay whatever to her, Like it was just a really

1208
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:53.239
great moment of her trying to deflect something that could

1209
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:57.119
really hurt your feelings because nobody wants the cornish game, Hends.

1210
00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:59.840
What's that You basically having a ref dinner that's more

1211
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:00.639
fine tune.

1212
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:03.239
It's very similar to the Refu. Yeah, yeah, what they

1213
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:05.440
were eating at dinner. Yeah, it's not most people are

1214
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:08.159
not expecting to get a cornish game. Hen No on

1215
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:11.760
Christmas Eve. Although I'm not gonna laugh, I would appreciate

1216
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:16.760
the thought because that's like a very outside the box

1217
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:17.639
Christmas e meal.

1218
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:19.519
I just want to wrap up a corners game him

1219
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:21.119
now and give it to you for Christmas.

1220
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:24.679
Just be nice to get something I read, I mean,

1221
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:26.719
as long as it's as long as it's dressed so

1222
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:27.320
I can cook it.

1223
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:29.400
I'm in Oh no, no, it'd be cooked. I would put

1224
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:31.079
it cooked and put it in the box.

1225
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:35.880
Like a rose. Yeah. Yeah, a Rotisseri Cornics game man. Oh,

1226
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.519
I just had a billion dollar idea.

1227
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.840
Finally, So that's when Stevie takes the opportunity to tell

1228
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:43.159
Max that she heard that Santa Slave shot got shot

1229
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:44.960
down and that there's not going to be a Christmas

1230
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:47.079
this year and that actually he had to eat his

1231
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:52.239
reindeer to stay alive. He ate Rudolph Rudolf first. So

1232
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:54.840
that's when Beth tries to intervene because Max is about

1233
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:56.320
to go over the table and get at her. In

1234
00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:58.719
the kitchen, Dorothy asked, Sarah, you know what she's making,

1235
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:00.920
because we see that Sarah is finishing of some crembroulets.

1236
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:02.960
And that's when Dorothy is like, you know, all this

1237
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:05.159
fancy food always ties up, you know, of my inside,

1238
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:05.599
and she's.

1239
00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:06.679
Like, oh, my plumbing.

1240
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:08.840
We can always go, you know, have Christmas at your trailer,

1241
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:09.920
and like goes off on her.

1242
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:13.400
Yeah, well, and and while I think that's you know,

1243
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:16.360
that's pretty damn harsh. Yeah, it seems like her aunt

1244
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:20.159
she has some legitimate grievances with as to where her sister.

1245
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:21.440
She's really mean to her.

1246
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:21.960
Meet her sister.

1247
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:22.440
Yeah. Yeah.

1248
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:24.559
And we also get our first instance of the naughty

1249
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:26.639
cut because in the PG. Thirteen cut she tells her

1250
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:28.000
to get the hell out of her kitchen. In the

1251
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:29.800
naughty cut, it's get the fuck out of my kitchen.

1252
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.400
Yeah. Yeah, she got to go full collect.

1253
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:35.960
Full Cotte, full collect indeed. So that is when Dorothy,

1254
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:37.599
you know, tries to smooth things over, and she's like,

1255
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:39.000
you know, no, I just sti't want to talk about it.

1256
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:42.239
So at this point, Stevie reveals that she has grabbed

1257
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:44.920
Max's letter and she reads it aloud, and we find

1258
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:46.840
out that he is wishing that he and Beth could

1259
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:48.639
hang out like they used to and be friends like

1260
00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:51.079
they used to. We also find out that he doesn't

1261
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:53.719
have many friends. He wishes his parents could fall back

1262
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:55.760
in love again, because with his dad working so much,

1263
00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:58.760
he's away from the house, his mom's alone. And then

1264
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:01.480
it gets to the point where she goes into the

1265
00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:04.079
letter seeing that she wishes. He wishes that it wasn't

1266
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:06.519
so hard for Uncle Howard and Aunt Linda and maybe

1267
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:09.000
they could have something good happening in them. Here, she

1268
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:11.559
flips over the letter, reads it to herself and says,

1269
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:14.159
screw you. Dad does not wish we were boys.

1270
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:19.400
He does. It's so he's raising them like boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1271
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:22.440
but no, it's other than that part. It's such a

1272
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:25.480
heartbreakingly sweet because it's your stupid letter to Santa.

1273
00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:25.800
Yeah.

1274
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:27.559
I just wish my mom and dad would love each

1275
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.679
other again. I just wish that my aunt and uncle

1276
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:32.679
would have an easier time in life. You're just like,

1277
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:37.599
who's the asshole? Yeah, well, give you one guess.

1278
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:39.880
So Sarah comes in with her Kremberleys finished, and that's

1279
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:42.239
when Max takes the opportunity to leap across the table.

1280
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:44.320
So there's a whole brawl between him and Stevie trying

1281
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:46.199
to get the letter away from him, and he gets

1282
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:48.320
his letter back, and that's when he basically tells the family,

1283
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:50.679
I hate this family. I hate Christmas. I just wanted

1284
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:52.639
things to be like they used to but forget it,

1285
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:53.719
and runs off to his room.

1286
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.840
Yeah, and believe it or not, this might actually matter.

1287
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.840
I love this though, because Dorothy, because everybody's like just shocked,

1288
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:03.519
and Dorothy's like, ah, the kids said, well, we're all thinking,

1289
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:06.000
I don't know why we're all pretending he said the truth.

1290
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.440
So Tom goes to check in on Max, reminding him

1291
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:12.000
that they're only here for till after Christmas, and he's like,

1292
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:13.880
so it's only oh god, three days.

1293
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:16.239
That's his dad that says that. He's like, hey, they're

1294
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:19.159
only here till after Christmas, so that's only three days

1295
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:20.760
and then they'll be gone. Yeah.

1296
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:21.880
Wow.

1297
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:24.840
So Max questions, you know, why do they invite them

1298
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:26.880
every year? If this is what they go through, Nobody

1299
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:29.199
you know, appears to like anybody. And that's when he

1300
00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:32.079
basically pitches the idea of you know, goodwill during the holidays.

1301
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:33.519
They are family, you know, we try to be a

1302
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:36.079
little more loving. And that's when he even encourages him,

1303
00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:37.760
you know, hey, there's still time to drop your letter

1304
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:40.320
in the mailbox for Sanna, and we think that he's

1305
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:42.719
gonna do that. So Max folds his letter, he seals it,

1306
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:44.960
and then suddenly begins to rip it up.

1307
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:47.559
Yeah, and it's it's pretty heartbreaking.

1308
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:50.079
It's pretty heartbreaking. He goes out to the window, throws

1309
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.199
the letter remnants out into the clouds, and that's when

1310
00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:54.119
they get sucked up into the sky, which starts to

1311
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:57.800
turn black. Cloud forms, wind picks up, snow starts to fall,

1312
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.760
and we watch the entire neighborhood house by house his power.

1313
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:13.320
Do You Even? Movie will be right back, welcome back

1314
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:14.599
to Do You Even?

1315
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:15.079
Movie?

1316
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:23.199
Real quick. I want to mention you know, in my movie,

1317
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:26.679
nothing good ever happens. One of the few things that

1318
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:31.639
people commented on playfully upset, where the children's letter to

1319
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:36.480
Santa Claus. What don't there's just it's a scene where

1320
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:38.840
they're gonna these two friends are getting together. They're gonna

1321
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:41.760
have they're gonna have a fire pit, and he's like, yeah,

1322
01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:44.039
I brought the kindling. And he's a post worker post

1323
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.159
to work. He has the uniform and he pulls out

1324
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:47.960
a bunch of mail and starts putting it in the

1325
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:51.400
fire pit. He's like, uh, you can't burn other people's mail.

1326
01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:54.119
He's like, dude, they're just children's letters to Santa. And

1327
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:56.480
he's like that's so horrible. He's like, you know, there is.

1328
01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:57.400
No Santa Claus.

1329
01:00:57.440 --> 01:00:59.119
You don't go anywhere, right.

1330
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:02.639
I remember how happy you were to write that, because

1331
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:04.639
I came over to just say I just wrote the

1332
01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:05.480
funniest line.

1333
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:08.880
I didn't even know that was. I didn't even know

1334
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:10.880
that was the joke I was going with. Yet, you

1335
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:13.960
know there's no Santa Claus right these letters. Nobody reads

1336
01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:15.239
these letters.

1337
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:17.000
So the houses lose power. And I do want to

1338
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:19.519
point out I'll talk about it later in my trivia

1339
01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:23.679
for the movie, but there is a bunch of cinematic

1340
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:26.519
houses mixed into the digital house mix of the film.

1341
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:29.199
Yeah there, I would call them Easter eggs. Easter eggs.

1342
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:30.880
And one of the East eggs that I showed hend

1343
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:33.320
on this watch is the house right next to their

1344
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:35.159
house when the power starts going out. You can even

1345
01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:37.679
see it right before it happens, is the Amityville house.

1346
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:42.679
Yes, and I will say I am a bit of

1347
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:47.559
a whatever you would call a somalie of Amityville.

1348
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:49.360
Yes, I would say so.

1349
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:51.920
I mean, look, have you even lived until you've had

1350
01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:54.360
a Have you even lived until you've had a member

1351
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:56.320
of the Lutz family threatened to kill.

1352
01:01:56.119 --> 01:01:58.039
You, homie. We could walk out to your kitchen right

1353
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:01.559
now and see four original Amityville pos The sequel posters.

1354
01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:02.760
Yeah, and I have one more than I just don't

1355
01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:03.239
know where to put.

1356
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:05.519
No, so you posters, you don't know where to hang what?

1357
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:10.760
Just beat the hell out of you. But but I

1358
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:14.280
want to mention that, I mean, it's not even vaguely

1359
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:18.119
coincidental because for those who don't know, the Amityville House,

1360
01:02:18.239 --> 01:02:21.719
the famous Amityville House is a Dutch Colonial style house. Yea,

1361
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.760
there aren't a ton of them in Ohio, but actually

1362
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:28.360
near my neighborhood we have about ten or fifteen. Now.

1363
01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:33.760
The big difference though, is those half crescent windows, which

1364
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:36.719
are literally like a fourth of a full of a moon. Yeah, basically,

1365
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:39.039
so you take a circle and cut it into four.

1366
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:43.239
That's what really gives it that that oomph. But they

1367
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:45.800
went one step further and not only did it have

1368
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:50.079
the windows, but it also had the outstretched kind of

1369
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:53.280
I think it's a gazebo. It's like a covered porch

1370
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:56.840
that goes out from the front. So it like, really,

1371
01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:59.880
somebody didn't just put a Dutch Colonial in, because that

1372
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:01.920
happen to it would just be like, oh, let's put

1373
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:04.880
a we need house models and they just picked some houses.

1374
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:09.320
But no, it really looks like the ocean Avenue, Amityville

1375
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:09.800
Horror House.

1376
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:12.199
Yeah, the reason they're Easter eggs is because he didn't

1377
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:14.679
want to get clearance for you know, all the rights.

1378
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:18.760
Oh, let me tell you when I got the clearance

1379
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:20.559
to make Amityville No Escape.

1380
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:22.880
Yeah? Yeah.

1381
01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:27.800
What were the other cinematic houses Myers House, the grocery store,

1382
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:32.039
my God, the Griswolds.

1383
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:36.480
Okay, and I believe I've got one more of my notes.

1384
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:38.880
I think, surprise it wasn't the night mund Elm Street House,

1385
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:41.480
because that's a very clear it's a very clear look.

1386
01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:44.639
He didn't specify how many. He just said they're in there.

1387
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:46.119
And if you if you have the time to pause

1388
01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:47.039
and look, you'll see him.

1389
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:49.079
Well, he wouldn't really need to clear the rights those

1390
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:51.599
those movies didn't own those houses anyway. They just took

1391
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:52.719
photos of them, basically.

1392
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:54.920
So the next morning, Max looks out his window to

1393
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.360
see a snowstorm is still raging on, and he also

1394
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.000
sees that there's a snowman out in the front yard.

1395
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:01.760
Let the snow man, we'll make him our best friend.

1396
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.920
God is a cantabal. He goes downstairs as his mom

1397
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:06.960
is going on about the surprise of the snowstorms. She's like,

1398
01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:08.960
you know, how can mediologists not be able to call

1399
01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:10.800
this blah blah blah blah, And you know she's upset

1400
01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:14.320
because everybody's without power on the block. Max brings their

1401
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:16.400
attention to the snow man, and he also gets asked

1402
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:18.960
by Omi or also gets asked to get Omie out

1403
01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:19.639
of the fireplace.

1404
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:23.400
So she is like, right up in the fireplace. Also,

1405
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:27.280
it's never spelled out, Yeah, but it sounds like Omie

1406
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:31.039
maybe having cognitive issues. I could see that. Well, well,

1407
01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:33.599
because later on we'll get to it very soon. Yeah,

1408
01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:36.719
but because this movie books, it is a fast paced film.

1409
01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:39.719
But there's a part where when they're gonna go out

1410
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:41.760
and she's like, please don't go out. He says, everything's

1411
01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:44.760
gonna be okay. You know my wife, I forget the

1412
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:47.840
wife's staying. But Sarah and Max will be here to

1413
01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:50.039
look after you. He says, they'll look after you. Yeah,

1414
01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:53.800
which makes me think that maybe Omi gets confused sometimes,

1415
01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:58.360
maybe Omi doesn't understand things. Also, I just thought about this. Now,

1416
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:02.280
let me tell you a cute David story. It was

1417
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:09.840
the third time you had committed felony tax No, I

1418
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:12.239
should have picked the crime that has like no statute

1419
01:05:12.239 --> 01:05:15.760
of limitations. No, but when we first watched this movie,

1420
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:20.000
you were very confused. We haven't mentioned Omi speaks German.

1421
01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:20.360
German.

1422
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:23.199
Yeah, she does not. She eventually speaks some English, but

1423
01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:27.239
my favorite line doesn't speak Germans. She speaks German. And

1424
01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:30.920
at one point you were very perturbed. Yeah, you were

1425
01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:32.519
kind of like, she's speaking German.

1426
01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:34.159
Yeah, because Max is speaking English to her.

1427
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:37.320
Everybody speaking English, Yeah, I mean later on her son

1428
01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:40.320
speaks a little German to her to comfort her, but

1429
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:42.679
generally she's the only one in the house speaking German,

1430
01:05:42.679 --> 01:05:46.079
and it becomes clear that it probably only Thomas and

1431
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:50.320
Max yeah speak it fluently or somewhat conversationally. And you

1432
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:52.400
were very perturbed. You were like, why is she Like

1433
01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:54.360
why is she speaking German and nobody else is whatever?

1434
01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:57.280
And I realized, like, at first I thought I was

1435
01:05:57.360 --> 01:05:59.159
laughing at you. I love you to death, I really do,

1436
01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:01.480
and you're no, because you know we have very different

1437
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:02.159
life experiences.

1438
01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:03.800
Yeah, exactly, but you just had.

1439
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:06.679
Never really unders you'd never really seen a multi lingual household.

1440
01:06:07.480 --> 01:06:11.000
And now this definition of multi lingual household is my definition.

1441
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:13.519
I don't know if this is the definition everybody else uses. Yeah,

1442
01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:16.960
but in a multi lingual household, generally, it's different from

1443
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.840
a bilingual because it doesn't mean that everybody speaks each

1444
01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:22.119
other's languages, but it means that there's a general understanding

1445
01:06:22.119 --> 01:06:25.719
of the language. Yeah, so you speak the language you're

1446
01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:29.320
most comfortable with because you're home and you're relaxing, and

1447
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:31.320
a lot of times elder family members do that. But

1448
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:33.519
something that just dawned on me as we're talking about

1449
01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:37.039
this show right now is one element of when people

1450
01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:41.320
have dementia is they tend to struggle with second languages.

1451
01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:43.519
Yeah, that's very true and well.

1452
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:47.039
Not and because sometimes they'll get confused and they'll think

1453
01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:50.280
they're still like even if it was thirty or forty years,

1454
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:53.960
they'll think they're they'll think they're in their home country. Yeah,

1455
01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:56.719
so it's possible that one of the reasons she's leaned

1456
01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:59.719
into just speaking German. It could be that that's just

1457
01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:01.599
the way she likes it, or it could be that

1458
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:05.079
that's much easier for her because she's having trouble concentrating

1459
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:06.960
stuff like that, because if you look at her while

1460
01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:08.800
she does a lot of things, she is just kind

1461
01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:11.039
of in the background. She makes cookies, Yeah, she hangs

1462
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:13.840
out with the kids. She does it, it's clear that

1463
01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:16.840
something is up, and I like that it's all subtext.

1464
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:18.880
I like that it's not there's no part where like

1465
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:21.119
when she starts saying like I know what this is.

1466
01:07:21.159 --> 01:07:23.800
This is cramposts and all this stuff there's I like.

1467
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:26.880
I like that there's never a moment where like Thomas

1468
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:29.159
takes one of the characters as sign and says like

1469
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:32.840
Omi doesn't understand what's going I like that that doesn't happen.

1470
01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:35.159
I like that because it's like, no, we get to

1471
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:38.880
take things at the value we see. And I literally

1472
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:41.639
I've seen this movie like nine, ten, eleven times, and

1473
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:44.159
this is the first time I went maybe that's because

1474
01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:46.519
Omi's having a little bit of trouble understanding what's going

1475
01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:49.480
on in general. So she speaks German anyway, Sorry, it

1476
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:51.280
just that just hit me right now.

1477
01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:54.360
Yeah. So she uh, Sarah's freaking out because you know,

1478
01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:55.760
they don't have any power, and she's like, you know,

1479
01:07:55.800 --> 01:08:00.000
what are we going to do? And even Outward is like, yeah,

1480
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:01.840
gona eat and she's like, well, there's funny leftovers, and

1481
01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:03.159
he goes, oh beer.

1482
01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:06.480
Is this cracks open a morning beer? What time of

1483
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:09.280
the morning? Is the best time for a beer? When's

1484
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:16.880
it the most refreshing? You can now remember the rules.

1485
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:19.560
I'm I'm gonna answer honestly from experience.

1486
01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:21.359
Okay, because the rules of the game are you can

1487
01:08:21.640 --> 01:08:24.119
exchange this question and answer who the relative is you

1488
01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:24.800
love the leading.

1489
01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:27.640
No, I'll take the beer question. The earliest that I

1490
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:30.000
have cracked a beer and it has tasted delicious. Given

1491
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:31.279
this was on a holiday, because I think it was

1492
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:33.239
either it was either Christmas or it was Thanksgiving, I

1493
01:08:33.239 --> 01:08:37.640
can't remember which. Okay, there's nothing better than a ten

1494
01:08:37.800 --> 01:08:38.680
thirty beer.

1495
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.159
In the shower or on the toilet.

1496
01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:46.680
It could be, yes, I mean, I am no stranger

1497
01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:47.680
to shower beers. You know.

1498
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:50.640
I had a shower fresco once. I was not that impressed.

1499
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:53.840
Sometimes, shower wine's my favorite, the entire bottle. I did

1500
01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:56.439
that during quarantine when I was going through rough times.

1501
01:08:57.520 --> 01:08:59.239
A whole bottle of wine in the shower.

1502
01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:01.520
I posted that it on Facebook because I thought I

1503
01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:02.119
was funny.

1504
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:07.279
Man white people usually do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1505
01:09:06.560 --> 01:09:08.279
I didn't drink the entire bottle in the share. I

1506
01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:09.680
just brought the entire bottle with me.

1507
01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:12.199
Right right right, and then you polished it off in

1508
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:18.279
your in your chair while listening to Vinyl records and remembering, dude,

1509
01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:21.359
because I had a pandemic too, David, I just don't drink.

1510
01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:25.239
I still went down the depths of human understanding of

1511
01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:30.560
mortality and sadness. I just wasn't drunk totally. Remember listening

1512
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:34.840
to record and tip of that bottle up, Dave, I

1513
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:36.680
might know you, Yeah, just a little bit.

1514
01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:37.279
The trick.

1515
01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:38.720
The trick is, it's kind of like you know how

1516
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:41.600
George Costanza you figured out the trick to success in

1517
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:43.720
life was do the opposite of whatever comes natural, because

1518
01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:45.479
he was such a script. Yeah, I've learned if I

1519
01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:48.439
assume the absolute worst of you nailed it.

1520
01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:49.279
Yeah, that's fair.

1521
01:09:51.439 --> 01:10:02.199
Do you Even? Movie? Will be right back, Welcome back

1522
01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:03.479
to do You Even?

1523
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:06.159
Movie?

1524
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:11.439
So suddenly a knock rings out in a delivery man

1525
01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:13.800
from DHL, and yes it is DHL.

1526
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:17.319
I wonder I want to know what they paid? What

1527
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:19.279
they are you wiping tears out of your eyes?

1528
01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:21.159
Maybe my eyes stings a little bit.

1529
01:10:21.359 --> 01:10:23.239
Oh g need you put some wine in it? I'm good,

1530
01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:27.159
but no, it's DHL. Like we see the logo, the

1531
01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:29.319
guy comes and all I could think was I wonder

1532
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:30.119
what they paid for that.

1533
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:30.760
Yeah.

1534
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:33.560
So anyway, so he has packages, Linda signs for them,

1535
01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:36.520
Howard helps her, and that's also when they note this

1536
01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:38.560
older looking Santa Sack that's on the porch, and they

1537
01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:40.359
asked the guy and he's like, you know, oh my,

1538
01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:41.800
my eyes really burning. Give me a second.

1539
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:45.520
I can't do that for you guys. Dave has made

1540
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:47.359
it very clear when he thinks of all of you,

1541
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:49.560
and during the holidays.

1542
01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:52.039
No less I know. So they noticed a really old

1543
01:10:52.079 --> 01:10:54.039
look at Santa Sack and the dhl's guy's like, oh,

1544
01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:55.760
you know, somebody else must have brought that earlier. So

1545
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:57.039
they bring everything inside.

1546
01:10:57.119 --> 01:10:58.920
He actually says it must have been the boys in

1547
01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:01.199
brown Yeah, which makes makes me think even more they

1548
01:11:01.239 --> 01:11:03.880
paid for it because they wouldn't say ups.

1549
01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:04.760
Nope, I love it.

1550
01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:05.159
Oh.

1551
01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:07.920
So that's when they bring everything inside and Beth questions

1552
01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:10.319
about going to see your boyfriend Derek because he's not responding,

1553
01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:12.600
and she's worried. And at first, Sarah's like, you know,

1554
01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:13.880
I don't know if it's a good idea for you

1555
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:16.640
to be wondering outside, and Adam Scott's character is a

1556
01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:18.760
Tom is just like, oh, you know, let her go

1557
01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:21.079
give her an hour and then you know, come back.

1558
01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:22.600
And so they decide that they're going to go ahead

1559
01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:25.119
and let her out. Omi surprises everyone by whipping up

1560
01:11:25.159 --> 01:11:25.920
a batch of hot chok.

1561
01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:27.479
Yeah. It turns out that's what she was doing at

1562
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:30.840
the fireplace. She was she was keeping the fire really

1563
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.000
hot and then making hot chocolate. And her line as

1564
01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:34.880
she says, everything is better with hot chocolate.

1565
01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:35.159
Yeah.

1566
01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:38.079
Now, while Dave is dealing with a personal crisis live

1567
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:40.960
on the show, I want to point out something about

1568
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:46.239
product placement that I love. So something like DHL getting

1569
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:49.039
a product placement. I'm keeping Dave on camera because it's funny.

1570
01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:52.479
Shut up something about you know, dhl's product placement is great.

1571
01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:54.239
You know this whole idea. It's like, let's put her,

1572
01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:56.319
let's put the delivery service that pays us the most

1573
01:11:56.319 --> 01:11:58.199
in here. But did you see the whale?

1574
01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:01.840
Yes, I know what you're about to say.

1575
01:12:01.960 --> 01:12:05.159
When I saw the Whale with Brendan Fraser in the theater,

1576
01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:13.000
he eats a box of Crispy Crunchy chicken. The the

1577
01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:18.039
the chain of chicken restaurants that's being established in gas stations.

1578
01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:21.840
The food's actually really pretty good. They have not paid me,

1579
01:12:22.039 --> 01:12:25.399
but I would happily accept money in the form of chicken, honestly,

1580
01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:27.600
And that goes for anybody. Nike, if you want to

1581
01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:31.119
hire me, pay me a chicken. But my point is

1582
01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:33.000
when I saw that I was with but with our

1583
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:35.239
buddy Jeff, Yeah, and I turned to him and I said, Jeff,

1584
01:12:36.520 --> 01:12:39.720
if we don't see a bunch more food labels in

1585
01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:43.119
this movie, then they paid to be the food that

1586
01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:46.119
this man is killing himself with the movie. And then

1587
01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:48.920
three or four scenes later, he pulls open his drawer

1588
01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:52.760
of candy bars and they're all labeled down. Yeah, and

1589
01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:55.640
I was like, oh my, who went crispy crunchy Chicken?

1590
01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:58.119
Was like was like, you know, it was like, well,

1591
01:12:58.119 --> 01:12:59.760
we'd like to do product plays. Okay, what's the moory

1592
01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:03.319
about guy who eats himself until he dies? Okay, okay,

1593
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:05.039
and you want him to eat your product?

1594
01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:06.600
Yes, got it?

1595
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:09.239
And and it kills him, Yes, he overeating kills him.

1596
01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:14.760
But our product would be seen, yeah, in the hands

1597
01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:19.760
of the man dying from eating it. Yes, one hundred grand.

1598
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:22.880
Yeah, Yeah, that's probably how it went down.

1599
01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:24.279
Gosh.

1600
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:26.640
So that is when outside Beth starts walking through the

1601
01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:28.920
storm and the storm is raging on. We see every

1602
01:13:28.920 --> 01:13:31.479
house is without power, also covered in snow and ice,

1603
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:33.880
and as she's making her way further down, it gets

1604
01:13:34.159 --> 01:13:37.439
darker and she begins to hear slable slaves.

1605
01:13:37.119 --> 01:13:39.119
Lable slables, slable slables.

1606
01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:42.159
Kids, starts to hear sleigh bells, and then suddenly something

1607
01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:45.079
lands on the house behind her. She watches and turns

1608
01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:48.439
as she sees this creature stand up, look at her,

1609
01:13:48.479 --> 01:13:50.399
and then leaps across the way onto the roof of

1610
01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:50.960
the other house.

1611
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:55.359
And I love that he's crouched like a gargoyle. Yeah,

1612
01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:57.439
I love that. When he leaps, you hear the sleigh

1613
01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:01.279
bells jingling. But they're they're not normal sleigh bells. They're

1614
01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:05.079
they're they're they're thicker. Yeah, they're more hard metal there,

1615
01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:08.920
so it makes a basier sound, which that alone makes

1616
01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:09.960
you think it's more serious.

1617
01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:12.439
Oh yeah, no, absolutely does. So she takes off running

1618
01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:14.720
and screaming, while the creature keeps on her path. She's

1619
01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:16.720
going down the street. It's jumping from roof to roof

1620
01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:19.319
to roof. She comes up to the DHL truck clearing

1621
01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:21.560
the window and sees that the guy is frozen dead

1622
01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:22.560
inside with fear like.

1623
01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:26.520
He's frozen, like in the middle of a scream, frozen solid.

1624
01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:29.039
Yeah, So that's when she quickly hides under the truck.

1625
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:31.239
The creature drops down beside her, and we only see

1626
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:33.359
its feet as it circles the truck a couple of times,

1627
01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:35.640
and Beth puts her hand over her mouth to avoid screaming.

1628
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:38.640
The creature then suddenly disappears. As Beth looks both ways

1629
01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:41.199
making sure the coast is clear, she becomes uneasy though,

1630
01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:43.640
as beside her, a Jack in the Box starts to

1631
01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:45.039
go along with its tune.

1632
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:47.640
Yes, And this is one of the reasons I think

1633
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:51.760
Dougherty was the perfect director for a project like this, Yeah,

1634
01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:55.920
because he's so good at taking the iconography and running

1635
01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:58.640
with it and and and going and not just doing

1636
01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:02.319
the things you're expecting. He goes further the design of

1637
01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:07.279
these killer toys he takes. He just keeps going with it.

1638
01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:08.880
So you get Yes, you get the Jack in the

1639
01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:11.239
Box and the Teddy Bear, and you get all those

1640
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:13.840
things which are really scary. But like later on there's

1641
01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:17.760
a Christmas Angel. Yeah, that's terrifying, which I think is

1642
01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:21.239
like a I've never seen that before, So I'm just saying,

1643
01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:23.039
like I love that he keeps running with it, this

1644
01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:25.840
idea that like everything is like Christmas from hell.

1645
01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:27.560
Yeah no, And then going back to the thing you

1646
01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:31.199
were saying about Christmas and Halloween, Christmas songs alone, even

1647
01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:32.800
if you fuck with the beats of them or the

1648
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:36.840
tunes of them, they're creepy even even standalone or being

1649
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:44.760
what's what's the word I want to use, manipulated, being manipulated,

1650
01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:47.800
Like there's some very creepy Christmas tunes out there, so.

1651
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:51.039
Well, a lot of Christmas songs come from from really dark,

1652
01:15:51.119 --> 01:15:54.760
dark Turians. I mean, oh gosh, I think it might

1653
01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:57.479
have been Carol of the Bells was originally a Ukrainian.

1654
01:15:57.960 --> 01:15:59.560
It might have been that one. It sounds there's a

1655
01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:03.840
famous Christmas Carol that was originally a Ukrainian ballet, and

1656
01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:09.319
that ballet was performed right when like the Red Scare started. Yeah,

1657
01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:12.159
it makes it infinitely more sad because that means that

1658
01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:14.039
when it was being performed in front of Americans for

1659
01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:16.920
the first time, the Ukrainian and I apologize if it

1660
01:16:16.920 --> 01:16:18.760
wasn't Carol Label's, I can't remember the exactly what what

1661
01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:21.319
it was, but that means that when they were performing

1662
01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:25.199
it for the first time in America touring the country

1663
01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:29.239
they had. Their country was gone, it had been absorbed. Yeah,

1664
01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:32.800
they couldn't go home. God, they didn't even have passports anymore.

1665
01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:36.439
That existed their home nation had been absorbed by the

1666
01:16:36.479 --> 01:16:37.159
Soviet Union.

1667
01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:37.680
Yeah.

1668
01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:42.359
So they're doing a dance and a performance to celebrate

1669
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:47.359
the Ukrainian culture because Ukraine has been conquered and annexed

1670
01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:51.520
and conquered and annexed for so long. Thank goodness that's over. Sorry,

1671
01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:53.279
I know it's a dark joke, but fuck it. I like,

1672
01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:54.439
what else can I say about that?

1673
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:57.520
But it wasn't Silent Night related to like a plague,

1674
01:16:57.680 --> 01:16:58.359
I want to say.

1675
01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:01.079
I think you think it of ring around? Might be

1676
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:03.199
it might also be signing. But my point is there

1677
01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:05.479
are a lot of those, and a lot of them

1678
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:10.680
are just very powerful classical pieces, and classical music tends

1679
01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:12.279
to have the ability to bring up a lot of

1680
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:15.680
like darkness as well. So anyway, I have so many

1681
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:16.520
tangents today.

1682
01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:18.319
So the Jack in the Box starts playing a creepy

1683
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:20.760
version of Silent Night, and then it stops. The lid

1684
01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:23.560
opens and we start to see something literally start moving

1685
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:25.520
out of the top of it. She lets out a scream,

1686
01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:27.359
and the camera goes above as we see the truck

1687
01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:29.199
shaking back and forth while she's screaming, and we hear

1688
01:17:29.239 --> 01:17:31.680
some creature sounds, so then we cut away from Beth.

1689
01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:35.000
Back at the house, Max sees another snowman outside. Tom

1690
01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:37.199
looks out the window, noticing that there are no cars,

1691
01:17:37.399 --> 01:17:39.840
no people, not even assault truck, and Sarah states that

1692
01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:41.960
it's getting late and best should be home soon, but

1693
01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:44.359
Tom tells her not to worry and ask about everyone else,

1694
01:17:44.399 --> 01:17:46.399
and Sarah tells them they're cranky and bored of each other,

1695
01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:48.199
but still okay, for the most part.

1696
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:50.319
They're gonna make it after all. By the way, I

1697
01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:52.920
was correct, Okay, it was Carol the Bells was converted

1698
01:17:52.920 --> 01:17:56.960
from Schidric, which I'm saying wrong, which was a New

1699
01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:00.520
Year's song okay from Ukraine. Okay, I just want to

1700
01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:02.760
mention that because I actually got it right. My buddy, GEO,

1701
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:04.880
George Rod he told me that story. Oh no, shit,

1702
01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:07.000
that's well, that's why I remember, because he's Ukrainian. Yeah.

1703
01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:10.039
Anyway, so Tom states tis the season. Outside, a siren

1704
01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:12.359
begins to whale, and that's when Max ask about Beth,

1705
01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:14.760
and in the living room, Omi is stoking the fire up.

1706
01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:17.000
She's keeping that fire going. As Tom asked Howard about

1707
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:18.720
his car, He's like, you know, do you think your

1708
01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:20.520
car can make in this weather? And he's like, Lucinda,

1709
01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:23.119
I could have her pointed due north and storm at

1710
01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:23.880
the beaches of Normandy.

1711
01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:27.079
Point that car due east and we'd be storming Normandy

1712
01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:29.399
by the morning. What's your plan? What I love about

1713
01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:32.199
this sequence is they clearly don't get along super well

1714
01:18:32.239 --> 01:18:34.319
or respect each other really well. But when he says, like,

1715
01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:36.479
it seems like we got to do something and my

1716
01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:38.640
daughter's out here, he's a me, like, what are we

1717
01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:39.000
gonna do?

1718
01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:39.479
What are we gonna do?

1719
01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:42.119
Like like he's immediately his huckleberry. He's like, yeah, you know.

1720
01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:44.520
And I love I love that in movies, especially that

1721
01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:47.680
moment where like family becomes family, where it's like, well,

1722
01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:49.359
we don't know where she is, and like the person

1723
01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:51.199
you don't like is like, well, let's go find him. Yeah,

1724
01:18:51.359 --> 01:18:52.039
it's good stuff.

1725
01:18:52.039 --> 01:18:53.760
And this is where Omi tries to stop Tom from

1726
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:56.000
going out, saying it's not safe, but Tom tells her

1727
01:18:56.039 --> 01:18:58.159
not to worry. Everything's gonna be okay. You know, Max

1728
01:18:58.199 --> 01:19:00.560
and Sarah will be here with you. So Max takes

1729
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:03.239
almost shaking hand because Omy's hand is shaking it.

1730
01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:05.119
Yeah, she's scared, So that's.

1731
01:19:05.119 --> 01:19:07.319
An attempt to calm her and Howard's hummer. Tom and

1732
01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:09.840
Howard drive the street and they find nothing on the

1733
01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:12.560
road on the radio minus recorded message about a weather.

1734
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:14.720
Storm movie, yes, which which reminded me that the film

1735
01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:16.560
takes place in Ohio, which I had forgotten.

1736
01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:16.840
Yep.

1737
01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:19.279
And then to make me even stupider, I remember Trick

1738
01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:22.680
or Treat was in Ohio. Yeah, I remembered that. Uh.

1739
01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:24.600
But then I was like, both of these in Ohio,

1740
01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:26.119
and then I pulled up Michael Doherty and I was like,

1741
01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:28.520
born in Columbus, Ohio. Okay, well, then I get it.

1742
01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:30.439
So that's when they come across a snowplow on the

1743
01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:33.520
road that has been abandoned. The door is open, and

1744
01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:35.680
there's also a hole in the windshield, and that's when

1745
01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:38.000
Howard makes the the comment. He's like, oh man, he

1746
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:39.760
must have flew through it. And that's when Tom says,

1747
01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:42.560
look at the glass. He wasn't thrown through. He was

1748
01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:44.800
pulled out, something busted through.

1749
01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:45.159
Yeah.

1750
01:19:45.239 --> 01:19:45.319
No.

1751
01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:48.600
And that's a really great, like scary moment because everything

1752
01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:52.800
about from the moment Crampis takes over the neighborhood, yeah,

1753
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:58.600
is hyper gothic, hyper creepy, and so christmasy.

1754
01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:00.760
So Howard goes to the rear of and he pulls

1755
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:02.479
out a shotgun and that's and Tom's like, you bought

1756
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:05.800
guns on Christmas vacation and he's like, always be prepared.

1757
01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:06.479
Right, boy, scout.

1758
01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:08.279
So that's when he gives him a gun and he's like, oh,

1759
01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:12.840
it's really heavy. He's like, yeah, it's Linda's So Linda

1760
01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:14.840
and Sarah back at the house reminisce about the angel

1761
01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:16.720
because Linda notices that the angel on top of the

1762
01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:18.279
tree is their mother's and she's like, oh, you kept

1763
01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:20.640
mom's angel. They have a really sweet moment together, and

1764
01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:22.359
this is when you had mentioned the thing about them

1765
01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:24.680
kind of coming together in regards to you know, I

1766
01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:26.720
was always jealous of your life. Well, I was jealous of.

1767
01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:28.800
Your and they gave us so much more of that

1768
01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:31.600
in the Naughty cut, which is ironic than the Naughty cut,

1769
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:34.560
they put more of people being kind. Well yeah, but no.

1770
01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:36.359
And there's a moment where she just kind of says like,

1771
01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:38.760
I've always been you know, I've always been She kind

1772
01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:40.840
of says like, are you jealous of us? And she's like, well,

1773
01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:43.680
you guys, you just get along so well and you

1774
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:45.279
know all this stuff, and her sister just kind of

1775
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:47.279
laughs and goes grass is always.

1776
01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:50.000
Greener, yeah, because see three years younger than her, three

1777
01:20:50.039 --> 01:20:51.359
times the kids. Yeah.

1778
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:54.000
But of course her response is like exasperation, yeah, And

1779
01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:56.479
her sister's response is like, you're lucky, you know. And

1780
01:20:56.600 --> 01:20:59.319
and that's one thing is like, even though her husband

1781
01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:02.880
is very rough around the edges, it does appear like

1782
01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:05.600
like he loves the shit out of them. Yeah, and

1783
01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:08.239
he's a good provider for them by and large. One

1784
01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:10.399
of my favorite things, and it's a subtle thing, is

1785
01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:14.880
if you watch when Kochner's character is sitting around almost

1786
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:17.079
half of the time he's in the living room, he's

1787
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:19.520
holding the baby yeah, which I thought was a great

1788
01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:21.640
symbolic way of saying like he is not like a

1789
01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:26.079
passive father. He's like into it. He may not be perfect,

1790
01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:27.399
you know, like he likes to pass the kid off

1791
01:21:27.439 --> 01:21:29.960
when he's full a poop, but he seems to, like,

1792
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:32.279
you know, he comes across as a good dad to me.

1793
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:33.640
He's a great character in this.

1794
01:21:35.640 --> 01:21:46.439
Do You Even movie will be right back, welcome back

1795
01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:50.319
to do You even movie?

1796
01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:55.359
That is when you know, she states that it's nice

1797
01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:57.520
having her around. Sarah tells Omi not to use all

1798
01:21:57.520 --> 01:21:58.800
the firewood and they need to save it, and that's

1799
01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:02.720
when Omi's just like eh. So suddenly sounds begin to

1800
01:22:02.760 --> 01:22:05.399
come from the attic, drawing everyone's attention, and Sarah's like,

1801
01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:07.279
you know, oh, it's probably squirrels. And that's when they

1802
01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:10.079
hear a giant slam, and Dorothy questions, you know, squirrels

1803
01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:12.880
in this weather, and the bang happens and shakes the

1804
01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:14.800
whole house, and that's when she's like, you know, yeah,

1805
01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:17.279
it was probably squirrels. Omi looks up the chimney and

1806
01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:17.920
we cut away.

1807
01:22:18.159 --> 01:22:21.439
Yeah. And Omi has been saying consistently the fire has

1808
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:22.520
to be hot, keeps.

1809
01:22:22.319 --> 01:22:25.600
The fire going well, not going hot. Yeah. So Tom

1810
01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:28.039
and Howard arrive at Derek's house, which they find completely

1811
01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:31.720
empty and just frozen inside, completely iced over, yeah, iced

1812
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:35.199
over outside and inside inside. So that's when he calls

1813
01:22:35.199 --> 01:22:38.000
to Beth and Tom does not hear anything. Howard doesn't

1814
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:40.560
hear anything either. Howard is visibly uneasy. He's gripping his

1815
01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:42.960
gun as he's making his way even more so when

1816
01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:45.039
they see a gingerbread on a fridge with a knife

1817
01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:45.479
stuck in.

1818
01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:49.880
It, Yeah, which I'm gonna assume that if you're listening

1819
01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:53.359
to this, watching this, you've seen the movie. Yeah, out

1820
01:22:53.359 --> 01:22:56.800
of context, just a gingerbread man knife tool?

1821
01:22:56.840 --> 01:22:58.840
Why butcher knife looks.

1822
01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:06.039
Really disturbing, really like some sick maniac would would terrorize

1823
01:23:06.039 --> 01:23:08.279
a family and then stab a gingerbread man.

1824
01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:08.520
To a wall.

1825
01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:10.960
Now, of course we really we find out very soon

1826
01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:15.880
that the gingerbread man are men, are alive and murderous. Yes,

1827
01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:18.159
But at that moment, I remember the first time I

1828
01:23:18.199 --> 01:23:20.720
watched it thinking how creepy it was that a gingerbread

1829
01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:22.600
man was pinned to a wall with a butcher knife.

1830
01:23:22.800 --> 01:23:24.720
So Tom finds a picture of Derek and Beth from

1831
01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:26.800
Prom and he sees it it like covered an ice

1832
01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:28.640
and everything, and Howard sees that. He's uneasy. He's like,

1833
01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:30.079
you know, hey, man, you know it'll be okay. We'll

1834
01:23:30.119 --> 01:23:33.000
find her. Howard then notices a hole above the fireplace.

1835
01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:35.520
And when I say a hole, it has cracked open completely.

1836
01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:38.000
So he's like, oh, gas line blue and.

1837
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:41.640
It looks like something huge went through it.

1838
01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:43.720
Went through it. And that's when they noticed that there

1839
01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:46.479
are hoof prints in the snow below it, and that's

1840
01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:47.960
when he's like, you know, I've been hunting game all

1841
01:23:48.039 --> 01:23:49.800
my life. I've never seen hoofs that big. He's like,

1842
01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:51.199
you know, it looks like a goat. And that's when

1843
01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:53.439
Tom has the best trailer line of the whole movie.

1844
01:23:53.640 --> 01:23:55.600
What kind of goat walks on its hind legs?

1845
01:23:57.119 --> 01:23:59.600
Tom the goat? So Tom the goat?

1846
01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:02.479
Only outside they hear sounds of Best screaming for help.

1847
01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:04.800
They run. They start trekking through the snow and Howard

1848
01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:07.720
is suddenly pulled by something under the snow and he's

1849
01:24:07.760 --> 01:24:10.560
pulled away. Acting fast, Tom grabs his gun out of

1850
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:12.840
the snow and he tries to free him by firing

1851
01:24:12.840 --> 01:24:14.600
a couple of shots. He pulls him free as Howard

1852
01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:17.359
states something is biting him. Quickly thinking, Tom uses the

1853
01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:20.479
pistol fire several more shots, releases Howard, and that also

1854
01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:22.119
alerts the rest of the house and something's wrong because

1855
01:24:22.159 --> 01:24:24.479
they hear the shots. Yes, So Tom and Howard go

1856
01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:27.640
back to onto the street, finding Howard's car completely smashed

1857
01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:29.920
it on fire. Now Sarah goes to get her coat

1858
01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:31.960
on to join them outside and that's when Howard and

1859
01:24:32.039 --> 01:24:34.880
Tom burst through the door. Howard's hysterical tells them to

1860
01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:37.039
find anything to arm them. Found knives, bats, and that's

1861
01:24:37.079 --> 01:24:38.840
when Tom's like, hey, you know, not in front of

1862
01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:39.319
the kids. Man.

1863
01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:42.239
Yeah. Yeah, he's you know, he's saying like swords, knives, anything,

1864
01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:44.600
and he's like, calm down, which I really like too,

1865
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:48.039
because again there's that moment where he's like I respect that,

1866
01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:49.960
you know, you that this is what we should be doing,

1867
01:24:50.039 --> 01:24:51.520
Like you're not an idiot. Yeah.

1868
01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:54.119
So Sarah sends the kids into the kitchen, even requesting

1869
01:24:54.119 --> 01:24:56.720
Aunt Dorothy to look after them, and that's when she's like,

1870
01:24:56.760 --> 01:24:58.039
all right, kids, come on, I'll teach you how to

1871
01:24:58.079 --> 01:25:01.640
make pepperminch snops. Requests also that Omi go with them,

1872
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:04.319
and Omi tells him simply keep the fire.

1873
01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:07.119
Hot, yes, and that's very important.

1874
01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:09.199
Yeah. So in the kitchen, Dorothy is in fact teaching

1875
01:25:09.199 --> 01:25:11.159
the kids how to make peppermint snops and we see

1876
01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:13.600
that Howie Junior's looking over and she's like, all right,

1877
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:15.279
I'll give you a sip, but don't rat on me.

1878
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:20.159
Her peppermint schnapps. Yeah, is schnapps a candy cane? And

1879
01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:23.199
well a Schnopp's in hot chocolate. Hot chocolate, yep, with

1880
01:25:23.319 --> 01:25:26.079
a candy cane used to stir it. Yep, A little sweet,

1881
01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:28.000
a little spice makes it nice.

1882
01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:31.119
So Max listens to his parents and the relatives discussed

1883
01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:33.479
what just happened. Tom tells Sarah they couldn't find Beth

1884
01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:35.319
and they will find her after the storm calms down.

1885
01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:37.760
But Sarah wants to go out immediately, but Howard shows

1886
01:25:37.800 --> 01:25:39.000
her his hand and he's like, you know, this was

1887
01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:41.039
only four minutes out there, and it's almost frostbite. Like,

1888
01:25:41.159 --> 01:25:43.119
this is not the weather to go out in. So

1889
01:25:43.279 --> 01:25:46.239
that's when Howard tells Linda about Lucinda. Tom asked about

1890
01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:47.359
the AMMO, and he's like, you know, I got a

1891
01:25:47.399 --> 01:25:49.319
few shells in my pocket, a couple in the in

1892
01:25:49.439 --> 01:25:52.079
the hummer or no, yeah, I guess he did say

1893
01:25:52.079 --> 01:25:53.279
a couple in the car, but I guess that doesn't

1894
01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:53.800
mean anything.

1895
01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:54.720
Now, yeah, because the car is gone.

1896
01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:57.039
Yeah. Yeah, So he states a couple of shells in

1897
01:25:57.119 --> 01:25:59.039
his pockets, and Tom suggests that they stay put and

1898
01:25:59.119 --> 01:26:01.840
wait for morning, and that's when he looks at his wife.

1899
01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:04.239
And Howard looks at his wife and he goes, we

1900
01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:05.800
should have gone to visit my brother, and she's like,

1901
01:26:05.960 --> 01:26:08.520
spending Christmas on a pig farm. Hey, Jesus was born

1902
01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:09.039
in a barn.

1903
01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:12.399
I love that line. That's such a perfect family argument line.

1904
01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:14.239
So that's when they decide to have everyone camp out

1905
01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:16.159
in the living room. They're gonna stick together. Sarah brings

1906
01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:18.199
some extra blankets with the kids, they're watching a Chris's

1907
01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:20.159
video on their iPad and even Sarah's like, you know, well,

1908
01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:22.319
isn't the battery gonna die? And Linda's like, well, it's

1909
01:26:22.319 --> 01:26:24.000
got to die at some point, might as well enjoy it.

1910
01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:27.840
So that's when she tells her you know, that's a

1911
01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:30.520
tough girl. She takes after her mom. Meanwhile, Tom is

1912
01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:32.680
boarding up the windows and Howard thanks him for saving

1913
01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:34.439
his ass. He's like, you know, you really showed out there,

1914
01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:37.359
like I appreciate it. And that's when Mac asked Tom

1915
01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:39.720
about Omi's behavior and Tom tells him, you know, well,

1916
01:26:39.760 --> 01:26:41.920
she always gets a little weird around Christmas, but we'll

1917
01:26:41.960 --> 01:26:42.880
never talk about why.

1918
01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:46.039
Yeah, yeah, And don't worry, kids, we find out why.

1919
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:47.960
Yeah. Max and his dad share a hug. As he

1920
01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:49.560
goes to join the rest of the living room. Howard

1921
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:51.439
suggests that one of them stay up and keep watch,

1922
01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:53.640
even volunteering to be the first to do it. So

1923
01:26:53.800 --> 01:26:56.680
sometime passes and we see that everyone has fallen asleep.

1924
01:26:57.039 --> 01:26:58.920
Silent Night is playing on the iPad. We see the

1925
01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:02.239
iPads at one percent. Suddenly the iPad goes dead, the

1926
01:27:02.319 --> 01:27:05.119
fire goes out, and we start to hear some sounds

1927
01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:09.479
in the chimney, some jing jang jingling, some jing jain jingling.

1928
01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:11.960
As a chain drops down, we see a hook on

1929
01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:13.600
the end of it. The chain keeps going down and

1930
01:27:13.680 --> 01:27:15.439
then we see a gingerbread man is in the middle

1931
01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:17.439
of the chain, and we hear some shakes, We hear

1932
01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:19.479
some rattles and some bells and even some voices calling.

1933
01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:22.039
And Howie Junior is the one to wake up, and

1934
01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:25.479
how He Junior walks over the fireplace, takes the gingerbread man,

1935
01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:27.239
takes him and pulls him towards him and takes a

1936
01:27:27.279 --> 01:27:29.399
bite out of his head. When suddenly the gingerbread man

1937
01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:30.199
comes to life.

1938
01:27:30.680 --> 01:27:33.840
Kid's basically a trout, yeah, oh, a thing on a hook.

1939
01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:36.520
Yeah. So he takes a bite of the gingerbread man.

1940
01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:38.640
It comes to life, and suddenly it just starts wrapping

1941
01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:40.520
the chains all around how and you know how He's

1942
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:42.960
starting to get free, and suddenly the gingerbread Man whistles,

1943
01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:46.079
and that's when they the chain comes to life, pulling

1944
01:27:46.159 --> 01:27:47.399
his ass right at the chimney.

1945
01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:49.960
Yeah yeah, I mean, as if it weren't shocking enough

1946
01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:51.359
that the gingerbread Man's alive.

1947
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:54.159
Yeah, So, how he is yanked at the chimney, awaking everyone.

1948
01:27:54.319 --> 01:27:56.960
Howard and Tom rush along with Sarah and they're trying

1949
01:27:56.960 --> 01:27:58.960
to pull him free. How He is screaming as he's

1950
01:27:59.039 --> 01:27:59.399
going up.

1951
01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:03.239
Oh it's okay, it's it's tough. Hey, hey, we're all

1952
01:28:03.279 --> 01:28:03.600
here for you.

1953
01:28:03.880 --> 01:28:06.880
Shut up. A smoldering log is kicked from the fireplace,

1954
01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:09.399
rolling under the Christmas tree, setting the Christmas tree ablaze

1955
01:28:09.439 --> 01:28:11.880
and all the presents in the chimney. Sarah holds Howie

1956
01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:14.000
by a shoe, but suddenly sees the gingerbread Man, which

1957
01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:17.239
is like tauning her, laughing at her, and that's when

1958
01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:20.199
Howie is pulled up. The shoe drops down. Max goes

1959
01:28:20.199 --> 01:28:21.760
to get the fire extinguisher to put out the tree,

1960
01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:23.960
and Tom and Max tend to Sarah as Linda tinds

1961
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:25.600
to Howard, who was blaming himself. He's like, you know

1962
01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:29.079
I fell asleep. They got my son, and that's when Howard.

1963
01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:31.640
Has had enough, Yes, and it's time to kick some

1964
01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:33.079
booty button.

1965
01:28:33.159 --> 01:28:35.640
So Omi suddenly brings the fireplace back to life, and

1966
01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:38.039
she tells them that this is actually everyone's fault in

1967
01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:40.199
a sense, and then she tells a story of her

1968
01:28:40.279 --> 01:28:42.199
childhood in a village, and we see a really cool

1969
01:28:42.359 --> 01:28:44.279
rankin Backs esque flashback.

1970
01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:47.520
It almost looks more like Coraline Coraline ask, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1971
01:28:47.720 --> 01:28:49.960
it's it's it's a it's very much in like that

1972
01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:55.159
kind of digital but it looks like like Claymation kind

1973
01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:58.920
of style. And we witness her life in the old country,

1974
01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:01.520
in the old country and how they were struggling. Yeah,

1975
01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:03.000
and her parents were always fighting.

1976
01:29:03.079 --> 01:29:04.840
She gets a piece of bread, it causes a huge

1977
01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:06.520
fight in the city. She goes home that night with

1978
01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:08.560
her little Santa doll and her parents fight over it

1979
01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:10.680
ended up like ripping the head off of it, and

1980
01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:13.000
that's when she basically says, you know, we had lost

1981
01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:15.399
our Christmas spirit, we had lost everything. When the town

1982
01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:18.199
was fighting, or my parents were fighting, they'd given up,

1983
01:29:18.239 --> 01:29:20.079
and honestly, so had I. And we see her throw

1984
01:29:20.159 --> 01:29:22.680
the doll on the fire, it turns to ash. Immediately,

1985
01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:24.600
the ash goes up the chimney and then goes into

1986
01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:27.199
the sky, replicating exactly what we saw. What Max did

1987
01:29:27.279 --> 01:29:30.039
was yes, yes, So that's when she says that, you know,

1988
01:29:30.159 --> 01:29:32.359
she didn't realize it, but she was summoning the shadow

1989
01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:34.920
of Saint Nicholas Crampus, and he came that night taking

1990
01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:37.560
her parents away to the underworld. And she hears this

1991
01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:39.880
while she's cowering in her bed, and she was worried

1992
01:29:39.880 --> 01:29:41.199
that she was going to be next. But that's when

1993
01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:44.279
she says, no, what actually happened was I was left

1994
01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:46.760
as a warning to remind people what happens if Christmas

1995
01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:48.960
cheer or with what if good spirit is lost again?

1996
01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:50.960
And she was left with a crampist bell.

1997
01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:52.920
Crampis bell, which falls down the chimney after her parents

1998
01:29:52.960 --> 01:29:54.760
had been taken away. So we cut back to reality

1999
01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:57.000
and we see Omi is holding that exact same bell.

2000
01:29:57.560 --> 01:29:59.159
Howard does not believe this. He's like, you know, I

2001
01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:00.479
don't believe in Christmas fairy tales.

2002
01:30:00.520 --> 01:30:01.239
You believe this shit?

2003
01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:02.960
And like he is ready to go fight.

2004
01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:07.520
Yeah. Well, and I want to say they really leaned

2005
01:30:07.560 --> 01:30:13.399
into that old world concept. Yeah, of Crampus, because think

2006
01:30:13.439 --> 01:30:17.319
about with with modern sensibility, what that story is saying.

2007
01:30:17.800 --> 01:30:22.000
It's saying, when you live in a world where everything

2008
01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:25.279
is hard and you're starving, and your family are fighting

2009
01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:29.399
and you feel like there's nothing left to live for,

2010
01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:34.920
if you lose your Christmas spirit because everything is shit,

2011
01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:41.039
you get punished for it. Not not something good should

2012
01:30:41.079 --> 01:30:43.560
come because you're so sad. No, it's like, oh, oh

2013
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:45.359
your life is so hard. Well, if you lose hope,

2014
01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:46.199
it's gonna get worse.

2015
01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:48.800
Well, and Omi so old school Europe even says in

2016
01:30:48.880 --> 01:30:51.359
her in her flashback that she that she didn't wish

2017
01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:53.159
for things to get better, she wished for her parents

2018
01:30:53.239 --> 01:30:53.960
to go away.

2019
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:56.199
Yeah, but I'm just I'm just saying, like, talk about

2020
01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:59.640
that old world European idea of like you're suffering will

2021
01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:00.600
also be punished.

2022
01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:02.880
She reminds me of the Family Guy German fairy tales,

2023
01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:04.479
where it's like there once was a bull who sucked

2024
01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:06.319
his thumb, then his mother cut off his thumbs. Now

2025
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:07.520
he has no thumbs. Good night.

2026
01:31:07.800 --> 01:31:10.520
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. And then if you want, if

2027
01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:13.239
you get the Russian version after it's been translated, it's

2028
01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:16.239
then it got infected. And instead of him dying, his

2029
01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:22.920
mother died Los Madonia. Do You Even?

2030
01:31:23.079 --> 01:31:33.560
Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do You

2031
01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:34.600
Even movie?

2032
01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:41.279
That is when how he is ready to or Howard's

2033
01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:43.079
ready to go back out and Tom tries to stop it,

2034
01:31:43.079 --> 01:31:44.720
and that's when Howard actually turns his gun on him

2035
01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:46.359
and he says, hey, man, I'm just getting ready to

2036
01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:48.720
like you like, don't fuck this up? Yeah, I like

2037
01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:50.479
you like this is my son. I'm going out there.

2038
01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:52.840
So he unbars the doors, going out into the storm,

2039
01:31:52.960 --> 01:31:55.760
only to see a plethora of stowmen have now appeared

2040
01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:56.199
in the yard.

2041
01:31:56.319 --> 01:31:58.119
Yeah, like more than a dozen.

2042
01:31:58.239 --> 01:31:59.920
More than a dozen. We even see some little el

2043
01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:02.119
creatures wandering the grounds. And that's when Sarah pulls him

2044
01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:04.359
back in and tells everyone not to open the door anymore.

2045
01:32:04.840 --> 01:32:07.039
So Max asks what they do now, and Tom states

2046
01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:08.960
they keep the fire hot. So we see it's now

2047
01:32:09.079 --> 01:32:12.159
Christmas Eve. As the storm still rages on outside, Max

2048
01:32:12.239 --> 01:32:14.640
offers his cousin some candy, some left through Halloween candy,

2049
01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:19.640
which another Easter egg. Sam Sucker is in the and

2050
01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:23.560
that's when he also, you know, he notices everyone's sitting

2051
01:32:23.560 --> 01:32:26.000
around uneasy, Stevie and Jordan take the opportunity to go

2052
01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:27.760
to Omi with a question, and we don't see what

2053
01:32:27.800 --> 01:32:29.520
the question is right away, but when we cut back,

2054
01:32:29.600 --> 01:32:32.640
Omie is basically being asked, you know, if we did

2055
01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:34.960
all these naughty things, can we do anything to undo them?

2056
01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:36.039
Is what the kids wanted to know.

2057
01:32:36.319 --> 01:32:38.600
Well, I think we missed the part about where they said,

2058
01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:41.239
oh look English. Yeah, yeah, you know when she starts

2059
01:32:41.239 --> 01:32:43.800
telling the story, she tells it in English. Yeah, and yeah,

2060
01:32:43.880 --> 01:32:45.520
it's just it's just a really funny part where the

2061
01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:48.760
aunt is just like I knew she spoke English. Yeah.

2062
01:32:49.439 --> 01:32:52.359
So that is when in the kitchen, Tom grabs a

2063
01:32:52.399 --> 01:32:54.520
city map and he's telling Sarah that he's got an idea.

2064
01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:56.680
Steve and Jordan question about their naughty behaviors and if

2065
01:32:56.680 --> 01:32:58.319
they can fix it, and that's when Omie tells them

2066
01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:00.600
it's not what they do, it's what they've believe that

2067
01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:03.600
will save them. So Dorothy chimes in, Okay, I guess

2068
01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:04.079
we're fucked.

2069
01:33:04.119 --> 01:33:08.640
Then Truer words never spoken. So Linda is rewrapping gifts

2070
01:33:08.680 --> 01:33:09.079
in the attic.

2071
01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:11.319
She comes across a box that she doesn't recognize and

2072
01:33:11.560 --> 01:33:13.640
she begins to hear another jack in the box tune

2073
01:33:13.640 --> 01:33:15.479
inside it. She goes to open the box, but that's

2074
01:33:15.479 --> 01:33:17.239
when Sarah comes up, telling her that Tom wants to

2075
01:33:17.239 --> 01:33:19.600
talk to everyone. So Tom goes over his plan to

2076
01:33:19.640 --> 01:33:21.319
get in the snowplow. They're going to clear a path

2077
01:33:21.399 --> 01:33:23.560
to the mall or the police station because the mall

2078
01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:26.159
is an emergency spot. If that's bad, they're gonna go

2079
01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:27.880
to the police station, and if that's bad, they're just

2080
01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:29.800
gonna keep driving until they can find help and bring

2081
01:33:29.920 --> 01:33:30.319
some back.

2082
01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:34.840
Yeah. It's one of my favorite moments is just after

2083
01:33:35.039 --> 01:33:37.640
Oma tells that story and everybody's like that's bull crap,

2084
01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:39.319
and then they look outside and see all the snowmen.

2085
01:33:39.439 --> 01:33:39.640
Yeah.

2086
01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:41.119
I just love that part where they say, well, we're

2087
01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:42.439
gonna do with Tomas is like we keep the fire

2088
01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:45.800
hot ladies, where he's like, uh, I might believe this

2089
01:33:46.039 --> 01:33:48.479
because I'm running at ideas now.

2090
01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:50.960
Dear listener and viewer, if you have gotten this far

2091
01:33:51.079 --> 01:33:54.520
and you have not seen crampis at this point, we

2092
01:33:54.640 --> 01:33:57.239
are getting to a critical point where this movie really

2093
01:33:57.399 --> 01:34:00.600
goes balls to the wall insane that I'm happy to

2094
01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:02.079
talk about, but I just want to give you this

2095
01:34:02.159 --> 01:34:04.640
opportunity that if you have not seen this movie. Stop

2096
01:34:04.680 --> 01:34:06.920
the podcast now, because this next scene is what makes

2097
01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:07.359
the movie.

2098
01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:09.279
This is why Dave is a great co host. He

2099
01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:11.079
tells people to stop listening.

2100
01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:14.159
This yes show always. So meanwhile, up in the attic,

2101
01:34:14.199 --> 01:34:16.039
we see the presence begin to shake and we hear

2102
01:34:16.119 --> 01:34:18.119
evil laughs and rattles, and we know that something is

2103
01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:20.840
about to happen. Max, looking outside through a pair of binoculars,

2104
01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:23.119
sees crampis on a roof and he goes back real

2105
01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:24.840
quick because he goes right over him. And he goes

2106
01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:27.359
back and the figure is gone. So Jordan asked Stevie

2107
01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:29.560
to accompany her to the bathroom because Aunt Dorothy has

2108
01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:31.960
clogged the one downstairs, and that's when she's like, well,

2109
01:34:31.960 --> 01:34:33.399
you don't want to go alone, and she's like well,

2110
01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:36.319
so they go off together. In the kitchen, Linda starts

2111
01:34:36.319 --> 01:34:38.399
to hear something through the vents that's coming from the attic,

2112
01:34:38.479 --> 01:34:40.279
and Stevie and Jordan walk down the hallway to the

2113
01:34:40.319 --> 01:34:43.239
bathroom when suddenly a little voice calls to them from

2114
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:45.920
upstairs and is like Stevie, Jordan, and they think it's

2115
01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:48.279
Beth and they're like, you know, where where have you been?

2116
01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:49.960
Like everybody's been looking for you. And the voice is like,

2117
01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:52.520
come up here. I've been waiting for you, guys, so

2118
01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:56.479
fucking creepy. So there's screams suddenly ring out as the

2119
01:34:56.520 --> 01:34:58.560
adults return to the living room, finding the missing they

2120
01:34:58.640 --> 01:35:00.840
give Dorothy some guff for letting them go by themselves,

2121
01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:02.960
and that's when Tom arm with the pistol, and Sarah

2122
01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:04.479
and Linda make their way to the steps, and they

2123
01:35:04.520 --> 01:35:06.439
tell Howard to stay back because he's got in jersey

2124
01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:06.880
on his leg.

2125
01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:10.840
Yes, his leg is still really painful and price still bleeding, so.

2126
01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:13.760
Max tells Omy he thinks that this might be his fault. Howard,

2127
01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:15.960
with his shotgun, begins to limp up the steps while

2128
01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:17.760
the rest make their way to the attic, but Howard

2129
01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:19.880
stops and Linda calls to the girls, but there is

2130
01:35:19.960 --> 01:35:22.560
no sign in them. Linda then notices that all the

2131
01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:25.560
gifts from before have been now opened up from the

2132
01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:30.159
inside and have come out yeah, and something bangs behind

2133
01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:32.640
them downstairs. Howard makes his way into the kitchen because

2134
01:35:32.640 --> 01:35:34.359
there's some sounds coming from the kitchen as well. He

2135
01:35:34.439 --> 01:35:36.720
finds some smashed glass plates and we see the vent

2136
01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:39.159
that she was hearing the sound out of is now open,

2137
01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:44.520
so Howard checks the pantry while upstairs the group find

2138
01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:47.319
a nightmare fuel in the form of a clown doll

2139
01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:48.920
that's in the jack in the box. That is a

2140
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:53.359
giant worm that is swallowing It would be Jordan Whole.

2141
01:35:54.119 --> 01:35:57.199
Yeah, it's jaws literally open from the side.

2142
01:35:57.319 --> 01:35:59.920
Yeah, think of a blade two the head vampire and blade.

2143
01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:02.640
The mouth opens like that exactly like dirt clown, which

2144
01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:03.640
is what Darty.

2145
01:36:03.319 --> 01:36:07.479
Calls it Oki dok doerty.

2146
01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:12.079
So that is when we see that this thing is

2147
01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:14.000
now swallowing one of the kids, and even Tom has

2148
01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:15.960
the line, where's oh come on?

2149
01:36:16.359 --> 01:36:16.560
Yeah?

2150
01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:20.000
Yeah, yeah. So that is when Howard is ambushed by

2151
01:36:20.039 --> 01:36:22.479
evil gingerbread man downstairs. They start firing a nail gun

2152
01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:24.000
at him. As they hit him in the leg a

2153
01:36:24.039 --> 01:36:26.039
couple of times, he grabs a cutting board, catching several

2154
01:36:26.039 --> 01:36:28.840
of the nails. Upstairs, Sarah catches sight of a demon

2155
01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:32.159
chairub angel thing that opens its wings up and dives

2156
01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:34.600
onto her and starts attacking her. Tom and Linda try

2157
01:36:34.640 --> 01:36:36.479
to help, but Linda is ambushed by an evil teddy

2158
01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:39.159
bear downstairs. Howard gets a shotgun, sending some of the

2159
01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:42.439
gingerbread men a blaze while upstairs, Sarah fights the chairub,

2160
01:36:42.520 --> 01:36:44.840
Tom is attacked by a killer robot toy, while der

2161
01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:46.439
clown tries to escape through the vent.

2162
01:36:46.800 --> 01:36:48.399
Yeah, a lot is happening kits.

2163
01:36:49.279 --> 01:36:51.520
So downstairs the gingerbread man burn while one of them

2164
01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:54.760
goes to attack Howard with a sharpened candy cane, only

2165
01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:56.640
to be eaten in midair by Rosie his.

2166
01:36:56.760 --> 01:36:58.399
Dog, his big fat bulldog.

2167
01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:00.800
So up in the attic Dirk Clown gets into the

2168
01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:03.199
vent or gets to the event after getting the cover off, Linda,

2169
01:37:03.239 --> 01:37:05.680
catching sight of an unconscious Stevie, sticks the teddy bear

2170
01:37:05.720 --> 01:37:08.039
in the eye with a fake icicle. She saves her

2171
01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:09.760
sister by cutting her free from the lights that the

2172
01:37:09.840 --> 01:37:11.840
cherub is trying to hang her with and hits the

2173
01:37:11.920 --> 01:37:14.199
robot with an axis. She charges the Jack in the Box,

2174
01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:16.800
but the clown gets into the event and that's when

2175
01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:18.880
she goes to Stevie's aid and Sarah takes a shot

2176
01:37:18.880 --> 01:37:20.479
at the robot with the pistol, killing it.

2177
01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:23.159
Yeah and killing the hell out of it, killing the

2178
01:37:23.159 --> 01:37:24.000
hell out Yeah.

2179
01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:26.119
So Max calls him downstairs. As they race back down,

2180
01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:28.079
they hear the Jack in the Box going through the vents.

2181
01:37:28.239 --> 01:37:30.439
Howard reloads his shotgun while the group figure out the

2182
01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:32.479
next plan. And that's when Max takes the vent cover

2183
01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:35.479
off downstairs, letting Rosie into the vents. We hear some sounds,

2184
01:37:35.520 --> 01:37:38.600
some barking, some screens, some creature sounds, and suddenly silence

2185
01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:41.840
when the roof caves in, dropping the jack in the box.

2186
01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:44.640
Right before them. Yeah, and then a few extra.

2187
01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:48.560
So the bear comes. It comes in from behind the couch.

2188
01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:51.319
Dorothy then grabs her shotgun at taking aim at she

2189
01:37:51.399 --> 01:37:53.880
shoots the bear, then the angel cherub she shoots as well.

2190
01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:56.479
Then Tom tells her to finish it, and she's like, okay,

2191
01:37:56.600 --> 01:37:58.159
you got it and tries to take a shot, and

2192
01:37:58.239 --> 01:38:01.239
that's when sleigh bells ring out and Omi goes. Elves

2193
01:38:01.439 --> 01:38:03.800
as elve creatures crashing through the winter.

2194
01:38:03.960 --> 01:38:07.000
Now in this film, the elves are these little short

2195
01:38:07.079 --> 01:38:11.760
people wearing these creepy ornate masks, yes, with chains on them,

2196
01:38:11.840 --> 01:38:15.039
and they all storm in. Gather up the.

2197
01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:17.520
Toys, Yeah, gather up the toys. They wrap chains around Dorothy,

2198
01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:20.560
they wrap chains around her clown, and that's when Dorothy

2199
01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:22.720
is pulled out. Howard leaps on top of her clown

2200
01:38:22.720 --> 01:38:24.760
because it swallowed Jordan at this point and He's also

2201
01:38:24.840 --> 01:38:27.319
pulled out with it, and the elves swarm the rest

2202
01:38:27.359 --> 01:38:29.680
of them, but stop as we hear a horn sound

2203
01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:31.079
catching their attention and.

2204
01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:35.079
They scatter yes, which suggests Big Daddy Crampis is coming.

2205
01:38:35.279 --> 01:38:37.680
Yes, so Tom checks on everyone, telling Max to grab

2206
01:38:37.680 --> 01:38:39.399
the amo, stating they need to make a break for it.

2207
01:38:39.560 --> 01:38:41.720
Omi tries to relight the fire but is having no luck.

2208
01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:44.399
She goes through several matches, nothing's happening. Tom tells her

2209
01:38:44.439 --> 01:38:46.800
they need to go now, when suddenly something slams down

2210
01:38:46.840 --> 01:38:49.840
on the roof. Power temporarily comes back as we get

2211
01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:53.319
treated to up on the house top. Ah, how comforting,

2212
01:38:53.479 --> 01:38:55.560
and that's when the group prepared to leave the house, exiting,

2213
01:38:55.640 --> 01:38:57.840
but Omi slams the door, telling Max to be good

2214
01:38:57.880 --> 01:38:59.920
before she does it, and Max and Tom called her,

2215
01:39:00.159 --> 01:39:02.680
but Omie boards up the door. Tom tells Max to go,

2216
01:39:02.760 --> 01:39:04.439
getting through the window, and that's when Max tells his

2217
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:07.159
dad she wants to help. She wants to face Crampis.

2218
01:39:08.079 --> 01:39:10.000
Yeah, well, and I mean it makes sense. You know,

2219
01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:12.239
she's been hiding since she was a little girl from

2220
01:39:12.279 --> 01:39:13.600
it and now that it's here.

2221
01:39:15.479 --> 01:39:17.680
So back in the house. Up on the housetop concludes

2222
01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:20.319
Omi stands in front of the fireplace. Suddenly we see

2223
01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:22.159
the chimney begin to break just like it did at

2224
01:39:22.159 --> 01:39:26.119
Dereck's house and fracture as Crampis slowly drops into the house,

2225
01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:28.199
rising out of the fireplace right in front of Omie.

2226
01:39:28.239 --> 01:39:30.439
And he is what at least eight feet tall In

2227
01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:31.199
the shot.

2228
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:34.680
I would say, yeah, well yeah, because he's crouching. Yeah,

2229
01:39:34.760 --> 01:39:36.279
so yeah, he's definitely eight feet tall.

2230
01:39:36.359 --> 01:39:38.680
So he slowly approaches her, extending a hand to touch

2231
01:39:38.680 --> 01:39:41.079
her face as a long tongue also comes out from

2232
01:39:41.079 --> 01:39:43.760
behind this creepy ass cnamas that he has on. He

2233
01:39:43.880 --> 01:39:46.279
places a sack down beside her, opening it, and that's

2234
01:39:46.279 --> 01:39:48.159
when we see that there's many evil toys that come

2235
01:39:48.239 --> 01:39:50.279
to life leap out on her. As we cut to black,

2236
01:39:52.279 --> 01:39:53.119
Do You Even?

2237
01:39:53.239 --> 01:40:04.319
Movie? Will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even?

2238
01:40:04.479 --> 01:40:04.800
Movie?

2239
01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:12.079
Outside, Max and his family are being led by Tom

2240
01:40:12.239 --> 01:40:14.760
as they march deep through the snow as thunder and

2241
01:40:14.840 --> 01:40:17.439
snow continues to fall all around them. The snow comes

2242
01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:20.159
to life once again as something begins to move through it.

2243
01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:22.920
Tom opens fire on it before telling his family that

2244
01:40:22.960 --> 01:40:25.199
they need to go. He hugs Sarah and Max, sending

2245
01:40:25.239 --> 01:40:26.880
them on their way while he continues to take aim

2246
01:40:26.920 --> 01:40:29.000
at the snow, emptying more and more shots as it

2247
01:40:29.079 --> 01:40:31.239
circles him, when suddenly he is sucked under the snow

2248
01:40:31.319 --> 01:40:34.479
and completely out of sight. So the group reaches the snowplow.

2249
01:40:34.560 --> 01:40:36.960
Suddenly Linda is sucked under the snow as Stevie gets

2250
01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:39.800
a final hug in. Sarah helps Max and Stevie into

2251
01:40:39.840 --> 01:40:41.520
the plow before she is sucked under, which is a

2252
01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:42.439
really sad scene.

2253
01:40:42.600 --> 01:40:45.920
Well, and it's like it's like tremors in the snow. True, yeah,

2254
01:40:46.680 --> 01:40:49.039
they're being grabbed and pulled in. But now as there,

2255
01:40:49.279 --> 01:40:51.800
as the final family members are being pulled away, it

2256
01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:54.039
just gets sadder. It's sadder.

2257
01:40:54.159 --> 01:40:56.000
She's like, you know, I love you and just vanishes

2258
01:40:56.079 --> 01:40:58.760
right below. So that is when Max begins to cry,

2259
01:40:58.800 --> 01:41:01.159
but steviee tells them they have to go. Max frantically

2260
01:41:01.239 --> 01:41:03.359
tries to get the Nisson turning on the snowplow, but

2261
01:41:03.439 --> 01:41:06.039
has no luck. Elves swarm the sides of the plow,

2262
01:41:06.159 --> 01:41:08.720
taking Stevie away. Max kicks an elf into the snow,

2263
01:41:08.720 --> 01:41:10.920
which it's sucked under as we see he gets out

2264
01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:13.319
to hear Stevie's christ for help. When Crampis leaps down

2265
01:41:13.319 --> 01:41:15.960
in front of him, standing tall and dropping a Crampis

2266
01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:17.399
bell along with his torn letter.

2267
01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:21.199
Yeah, it's wrapped in his torn letter, which is really

2268
01:41:21.479 --> 01:41:22.840
a beautiful touch.

2269
01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:26.399
Beautiful touch indeed. So that is when we hear Omy's

2270
01:41:26.439 --> 01:41:28.560
voice over once again stating that he left me behind

2271
01:41:28.600 --> 01:41:31.000
as a reminder as what happens when the Christmas Spirit dies.

2272
01:41:31.039 --> 01:41:32.760
As we see the camera pull away from Max, it

2273
01:41:32.800 --> 01:41:34.840
cuts to black, and you could think that the movie's over,

2274
01:41:35.039 --> 01:41:36.640
like the first time we were in theaters, we were

2275
01:41:36.680 --> 01:41:41.279
just like shit. Yeah, But we come back to max

2276
01:41:41.399 --> 01:41:44.000
Is marching through the snow, coming to Crampis's sled. He

2277
01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:47.720
calls out to him, hey, asshole, Crampis.

2278
01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:50.039
Then Crampis is like, I'm not Jason Voorhees.

2279
01:41:50.359 --> 01:41:53.239
Crampis wonders over to Max as he states, I take

2280
01:41:53.279 --> 01:41:55.600
it all back, even throwing the bell at him, telling

2281
01:41:55.680 --> 01:41:57.359
him to give him his family back. He wants to

2282
01:41:57.359 --> 01:41:59.399
take his wishback. He doesn't want any of this anymore.

2283
01:41:59.760 --> 01:42:01.920
We watch the bell begin to sneak in a sink

2284
01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:04.640
into the snow as the ground begins to shake and

2285
01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:06.800
opens up into what I can only describe as an

2286
01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:07.479
absolute hell.

2287
01:42:07.600 --> 01:42:10.880
Escape yeah, I would say, literally, yeah, literal health shop

2288
01:42:11.920 --> 01:42:12.399
in the ground.

2289
01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:15.439
Yeah. So that's when the fiery pit rises from the

2290
01:42:15.479 --> 01:42:18.119
ground as Max watches Stevie get walked over and he's like,

2291
01:42:18.199 --> 01:42:20.239
you know, hey, you know, I take it back, take

2292
01:42:20.319 --> 01:42:23.479
me instead. Max charges cramps ready to fight, but stops

2293
01:42:23.479 --> 01:42:25.640
as he begs Crampis to fix this, give them back.

2294
01:42:25.880 --> 01:42:28.079
I offer myself in in in, you know, in return,

2295
01:42:28.399 --> 01:42:30.920
and he has tears in his eyes, and Crampis pauses,

2296
01:42:31.479 --> 01:42:33.520
wiping the tear away from Max's eyes, and then he

2297
01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:36.439
lets out a laugh. His minions join in. Stevie is

2298
01:42:36.479 --> 01:42:38.319
thrown into the hole and that's when he's like, you know,

2299
01:42:38.399 --> 01:42:40.479
I'm sorry, you know I you know, I didn't want

2300
01:42:40.479 --> 01:42:42.680
any of this to happen. That's when Crampus lifts him up,

2301
01:42:42.840 --> 01:42:45.239
throws him into the hole, and we watch Matt Max

2302
01:42:45.359 --> 01:42:46.279
just basically fall.

2303
01:42:46.199 --> 01:42:49.439
Completely, watch Hans Gruber into Hell, into Hell. Yeah.

2304
01:42:49.640 --> 01:42:52.359
So that's when he comes to in his room. He

2305
01:42:52.479 --> 01:42:54.680
falls out of bed in a frenzy. He looks around,

2306
01:42:54.760 --> 01:42:56.560
looking outside to see the snow is falling, but the

2307
01:42:56.600 --> 01:42:59.600
neighborhood has completely returned back to normal. Powers on cars

2308
01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:02.279
are won the streets, you know, he sees people, and

2309
01:43:02.319 --> 01:43:04.880
that's when he also sees that it's Christmas Day yay.

2310
01:43:05.159 --> 01:43:07.119
As he opens the final day on his admin calendar,

2311
01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:10.159
he goes downstairs to find the whole family enjoying Christmas morning.

2312
01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:12.039
Beth comes around the corner and she's like, oh, it's

2313
01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:13.600
about time you got up, and Howard's like, you know,

2314
01:43:13.640 --> 01:43:15.359
oh well, we thought the sugar plums ferry got to

2315
01:43:15.439 --> 01:43:18.840
you so funny. So he sits between his parents as

2316
01:43:18.880 --> 01:43:21.840
Stevie states, you know, t enough this sentimental shit. Let's

2317
01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:25.199
open the Presence. So Omi hands out hot chocolate to everyone.

2318
01:43:25.279 --> 01:43:27.159
They begin to open Presence and Max is just looking

2319
01:43:27.199 --> 01:43:30.119
around smiling because this is the Christmas he wanted. Everybody's happy,

2320
01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:32.560
everybody's joking, they're having fun. Opening Present, they.

2321
01:43:32.520 --> 01:43:35.159
Start playing a very throaty version of having yourself a

2322
01:43:35.239 --> 01:43:36.239
merry little Christmas.

2323
01:43:36.439 --> 01:43:38.600
Max has handed a gift and that's when he hugs

2324
01:43:38.640 --> 01:43:40.560
his parents, telling the Mary Christmas, and his mom's like,

2325
01:43:40.560 --> 01:43:41.880
you know what brought this on? And he's like, you know,

2326
01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:44.720
I'm just you know, happy, you know, merry Christmas. Opening

2327
01:43:44.800 --> 01:43:48.000
the box, he sees that it's the crampest bell. Pulling

2328
01:43:48.039 --> 01:43:50.319
it out, his mom catches side of the bell. She

2329
01:43:50.479 --> 01:43:52.199
becomes uneasy, and then we see the rest of the

2330
01:43:52.279 --> 01:43:54.840
room begins to come easy. Remembering the events of the film,

2331
01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:56.960
we do the voiceovers of shit that's happened?

2332
01:43:57.000 --> 01:43:59.199
When we hear the sound of everything that went down?

2333
01:43:59.319 --> 01:44:01.479
Yeah, And that's when Oomie's voice over plays once again,

2334
01:44:01.720 --> 01:44:03.760
and we see that he looks over to Omi and

2335
01:44:03.840 --> 01:44:06.520
she just looks somber before looking down. Santa Claus has

2336
01:44:06.560 --> 01:44:08.840
come into town starts to play on a turntable. As

2337
01:44:08.920 --> 01:44:10.600
we begin to pull out of the house, we go

2338
01:44:10.680 --> 01:44:12.760
through the front window. We come out of the house,

2339
01:44:12.920 --> 01:44:15.279
and that's when we come out of a snow globe.

2340
01:44:15.319 --> 01:44:16.840
As we see the house is in a snow globe

2341
01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:20.439
in Crampis's layer, which is surrounded by many snow globes

2342
01:44:20.479 --> 01:44:21.960
all in all that have houses in them.

2343
01:44:22.439 --> 01:44:24.000
Yes, and we see that it is.

2344
01:44:24.039 --> 01:44:27.039
A huge layer snow globes everywhere, and that is when

2345
01:44:27.279 --> 01:44:29.920
the toys come onto the screen jump at us. We

2346
01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:33.079
cut to black one lass jump scare and that, my friends,

2347
01:44:33.239 --> 01:44:35.199
is twenty fifteen's Crampis.

2348
01:44:35.640 --> 01:44:39.960
Yes, indeed it is. And I debated if I should

2349
01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:42.199
share what I would have liked the ending to be

2350
01:44:42.359 --> 01:44:45.039
because I've had this opinion since I first watched it. Okay,

2351
01:44:45.199 --> 01:44:47.319
my least favorite part of this movie, and I love

2352
01:44:47.439 --> 01:44:48.640
this movie is the ending.

2353
01:44:48.720 --> 01:44:50.520
Okay, I.

2354
01:44:52.359 --> 01:44:56.439
My, you know, I like a happy ending. It ends

2355
01:44:56.479 --> 01:44:59.479
with a scary, you know ending, which which is good.

2356
01:44:59.520 --> 01:45:03.159
It's a horror. But I always thought that if if

2357
01:45:03.279 --> 01:45:08.119
Max was gonna undo what he did, that it should

2358
01:45:08.119 --> 01:45:11.039
have been like through some kind of a self sacrifice,

2359
01:45:11.079 --> 01:45:13.000
but not like just saying take me or whatever. Yeah,

2360
01:45:13.119 --> 01:45:16.119
and my thought, and this is probably pretty silly, but

2361
01:45:16.319 --> 01:45:19.760
my thought was he would come to Crampus like demanding, like,

2362
01:45:19.840 --> 01:45:21.880
you know, take me, let her go. I thought he

2363
01:45:21.920 --> 01:45:24.119
should just like whack him away from him, like throw

2364
01:45:24.239 --> 01:45:27.840
him twenty feet ten feet whatever. He'd fall and get

2365
01:45:27.920 --> 01:45:30.880
back up and just keep coming and saying please, you know,

2366
01:45:31.039 --> 01:45:32.920
take me, take me, And he'd knock him away, and

2367
01:45:32.920 --> 01:45:34.479
the kid would come back with like a bloody nose.

2368
01:45:34.560 --> 01:45:36.520
He'd come back like all this stuff, and that that

2369
01:45:37.359 --> 01:45:40.079
eventually Crampus would realize that this kid will let him

2370
01:45:40.119 --> 01:45:43.199
beat him to death to save his family, and that

2371
01:45:43.279 --> 01:45:46.399
would break the curse. That was but that was after

2372
01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:49.359
watching it at least once or twice. I just thought

2373
01:45:49.359 --> 01:45:50.800
about it. I was like, well, how would a happy

2374
01:45:50.920 --> 01:45:53.840
ending work if there was one where it wasn't that

2375
01:45:53.920 --> 01:45:55.479
they were all in the snow globe?

2376
01:45:55.600 --> 01:45:57.720
Do you believe that they're trapped in the snow globe?

2377
01:45:57.840 --> 01:45:58.000
Oh?

2378
01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:00.560
Yeah, so I so I the first of I saw it,

2379
01:46:00.600 --> 01:46:03.560
I did too on further watches and n after reading

2380
01:46:03.640 --> 01:46:07.239
some some other you know, uh descriptions of it. I

2381
01:46:07.359 --> 01:46:09.760
almost wonder if they're in the snow globe because Crampus

2382
01:46:09.880 --> 01:46:11.119
is just keeping an eye on them.

2383
01:46:11.199 --> 01:46:16.359
Now, that could be, uh, that could be. Yeah, yeah,

2384
01:46:16.399 --> 01:46:19.960
it could be. But but I didn't get the sense that,

2385
01:46:20.119 --> 01:46:23.159
like the snow globes showed you somewhere. I got the

2386
01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:25.920
sense that the snow globes were somewhere. Yeah, but I

2387
01:46:25.960 --> 01:46:27.239
could see that argument though. Yeah.

2388
01:46:27.520 --> 01:46:28.880
So would you like to know what the budget of

2389
01:46:28.920 --> 01:46:29.479
the film was?

2390
01:46:29.960 --> 01:46:30.239
Sure?

2391
01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:32.720
Budget is estimated at fifteen million.

2392
01:46:33.159 --> 01:46:34.800
Honestly, a little lower than I was thinking.

2393
01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:38.119
Opens December six of twenty December six of twenty fifteen

2394
01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:41.079
makes sixteen million, two hundred and ninety three thousand dollars

2395
01:46:41.279 --> 01:46:44.039
at the at the box office. Then it grosses in

2396
01:46:44.159 --> 01:46:47.760
US and Canada forty two million worldwide, ending in sixty

2397
01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:49.800
one million dollars not bad.

2398
01:46:49.840 --> 01:46:52.600
I actually thought it did better. That's what. For some reason,

2399
01:46:52.680 --> 01:46:54.399
I believe your numbers. I'm just saying I thought it

2400
01:46:54.439 --> 01:46:56.439
did a little bit better. It still was a hit. Yeah.

2401
01:46:56.560 --> 01:46:58.920
It opened number one on Friday and number two for

2402
01:46:58.960 --> 01:47:02.159
the weekend behind Mocking j Part two. Shot at Stone

2403
01:47:02.199 --> 01:47:05.720
Street Studios, Wilmington or Wellington in New Zealand.

2404
01:47:06.159 --> 01:47:08.840
Oh, I didn't realize it was shot news shot of

2405
01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:11.399
the shot music. I thought Canada. Yeah.

2406
01:47:11.880 --> 01:47:14.479
The film was originally to release on November twenty fifth,

2407
01:47:14.520 --> 01:47:16.800
but was pushed back to December fourth to coincide with

2408
01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:20.000
Crampus Knocked, a traditional Austrian festival held on December fifth

2409
01:47:20.039 --> 01:47:22.880
that celebrates the Crampis coming to punish naughty children.

2410
01:47:22.600 --> 01:47:24.039
Which would have been the day to do this show.

2411
01:47:24.119 --> 01:47:26.880
But Dave doesn't respect Germany, and that's one of the

2412
01:47:26.960 --> 01:47:28.079
few things I agree with you on.

2413
01:47:28.279 --> 01:47:31.399
Early in Doherty's research, he turned up many old postcards

2414
01:47:31.439 --> 01:47:34.319
with Crampus representations, finding that a large amount were humorous.

2415
01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:37.199
Doherty immediately knew he wanted his film to match with

2416
01:47:37.239 --> 01:47:39.960
a dark humor. He decided to also use Crampus's minions,

2417
01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:42.560
blending imagery of the Stonemen and various toys in the film.

2418
01:47:42.880 --> 01:47:45.680
He was also fascinated to realize that Crampus folklore pre

2419
01:47:45.800 --> 01:47:49.039
dates Christmas itself, offering multiple theories and ideologies to pull

2420
01:47:49.079 --> 01:47:49.720
from for the film.

2421
01:47:49.960 --> 01:47:52.880
Well, there's a whole thing too where Crampis is kind

2422
01:47:52.920 --> 01:47:56.199
of comes from the same spark of idea as el

2423
01:47:56.279 --> 01:47:59.920
Ombre del Saco, which is the bag Man, the sack man, yeah,

2424
01:48:00.199 --> 01:48:05.079
which is a very common bedtime story, scary story for

2425
01:48:05.239 --> 01:48:08.840
children in Portugal, Spain. My grandpa told me about it

2426
01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:10.079
the first time. He didn't tell it to be scared me.

2427
01:48:10.159 --> 01:48:11.880
He just told me, like, here's a crazy story. My

2428
01:48:11.920 --> 01:48:15.119
Granma used to tell me. It's now a common story

2429
01:48:15.159 --> 01:48:19.119
in Mexico, Central America, South America, but similar bagman stories

2430
01:48:19.199 --> 01:48:21.880
spread throughout Europe as well. And when I first read it,

2431
01:48:21.920 --> 01:48:23.680
I was like, this kind of sounds like Crampis Yeah,

2432
01:48:23.720 --> 01:48:26.680
a little bit, I mean, except the version in Portugal

2433
01:48:26.800 --> 01:48:28.439
was very gruesome. It wasn't that he had a sack

2434
01:48:28.479 --> 01:48:29.640
full of kids, and we had a sack full of

2435
01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:33.880
pieces of kids. Jesus, no, no, no, Jesus, just the kids.

2436
01:48:35.239 --> 01:48:37.439
So Doherty wanted the film to have the feel of

2437
01:48:37.479 --> 01:48:39.760
a family Christmas film that was invaded by Crampis in

2438
01:48:39.800 --> 01:48:42.399
its second act. The decision came from the idea of

2439
01:48:42.520 --> 01:48:45.159
someone channel surfing and thinking they were watching a Christmas movie,

2440
01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:47.159
and then it would be surprised and hooked once the

2441
01:48:47.239 --> 01:48:48.319
darkness begins to seep in.

2442
01:48:49.039 --> 01:48:51.000
I could see that for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

2443
01:48:51.319 --> 01:48:54.119
Todd, Casey and Doherty both stated the original concept of

2444
01:48:54.159 --> 01:48:56.000
the film was too violent and over the top with

2445
01:48:56.119 --> 01:48:58.319
its content that the decision was made to bring in

2446
01:48:58.439 --> 01:49:00.840
Zach Shields, who reshaped the film into a trapped in

2447
01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:03.319
a house movie. Doherty wanted the film to have an

2448
01:49:03.399 --> 01:49:05.079
early ambulance feel like Gremlins.

2449
01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:07.760
I think they got that pretty pretty decently.

2450
01:49:07.840 --> 01:49:10.039
Yeah, I would say so. Cramp Is shot entirely on

2451
01:49:10.159 --> 01:49:12.720
sound stages at Stone Street Studios, except the opening, which

2452
01:49:12.760 --> 01:49:15.199
was shot at a functional box store. This decision was

2453
01:49:15.239 --> 01:49:17.560
made so that they could control the weather elements presented

2454
01:49:17.600 --> 01:49:19.880
in the film. The production used two different types of

2455
01:49:19.880 --> 01:49:22.600
fake snow, including soap SuDS for the falling snow, while

2456
01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:24.720
the snow on the ground was made of rubber absorbent

2457
01:49:24.760 --> 01:49:27.960
pieces found in diapers. The sound stage allowed also for

2458
01:49:28.039 --> 01:49:30.800
the use of force perspective digital effects, and also allowed

2459
01:49:30.840 --> 01:49:32.920
for a fairy tale like landscape to be presented for

2460
01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:33.279
the film.

2461
01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:35.960
Well, when you build it, you have full control over it.

2462
01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:38.880
Due to the use of digital effects and designing the neighborhood.

2463
01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:41.479
Doherty encourages fans of the film to find hidden pop

2464
01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:45.319
culture houses, including the Meyers House, Ambityville, Crisis, Vacation, and more.

2465
01:49:45.920 --> 01:49:51.079
I was sad I didn't see the Simpsons House. Do

2466
01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:52.319
You Even? Movie?

2467
01:49:52.439 --> 01:50:03.520
Will be right back, Welcome back to do You Even movie.

2468
01:50:08.439 --> 01:50:10.640
Stone Street Studios was half a mile away from we

2469
01:50:10.800 --> 01:50:14.359
to workshop, the studio behind the vision WEDDA. Yeah. Sorry,

2470
01:50:14.439 --> 01:50:17.000
that's the studio behind the visual effects of the film,

2471
01:50:17.079 --> 01:50:19.079
who also worked on Lord of the Rings and Avatar.

2472
01:50:19.399 --> 01:50:22.319
Around the corner from WETA, Doherty had the digital studio

2473
01:50:22.399 --> 01:50:24.000
set up for the film, and next to that were

2474
01:50:24.039 --> 01:50:25.199
the post production offices.

2475
01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:28.000
I mean it makes sense. That's one element of getting

2476
01:50:28.039 --> 01:50:30.079
the tax credit money too, as you do as much

2477
01:50:30.119 --> 01:50:32.239
as you can in the country. Yeah, but I mean

2478
01:50:32.359 --> 01:50:34.359
they weren't schlubbing it using WETTA. They're one of the

2479
01:50:34.439 --> 01:50:35.159
best in the world.

2480
01:50:35.880 --> 01:50:37.760
Doherty knew from the get go that he wanted Crampus

2481
01:50:37.800 --> 01:50:40.039
to be a character made by practical effects. While he

2482
01:50:40.079 --> 01:50:42.399
had looked at numerous seven foot actors. He ended up

2483
01:50:42.439 --> 01:50:45.359
deciding on Luke Hawker, a five nine creature specialist who

2484
01:50:45.359 --> 01:50:48.359
happened to work for Weta Workshop. Hawker brought his ideas

2485
01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:50.760
for the look of Crampus from various Crampus knock festivals,

2486
01:50:50.920 --> 01:50:53.199
where he studied the movement and body language of those

2487
01:50:53.239 --> 01:50:53.880
in costumes.

2488
01:50:54.199 --> 01:50:56.359
One of my favorite things about the design of Crampus

2489
01:50:56.439 --> 01:50:58.640
in this movie is that when you finally get a

2490
01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:01.199
good look at him, it looks like he's wearing a mask,

2491
01:51:01.479 --> 01:51:03.680
sand a mask and yeah, and I and I think

2492
01:51:03.720 --> 01:51:06.560
he is. I think it's it's it's definitely intentional. Yeah,

2493
01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:09.279
and it makes it so much Creepierie, oh my god,

2494
01:51:09.359 --> 01:51:12.079
because most depictions of Crampis he has this crazy kind

2495
01:51:12.119 --> 01:51:16.560
of dragony, not dragony devil, A devil. I was gonna say,

2496
01:51:16.680 --> 01:51:20.720
like a like a gargoyle, Okay, kind of like a

2497
01:51:20.920 --> 01:51:24.039
like an old school like demon face. Uh.

2498
01:51:24.119 --> 01:51:25.920
Todd Todd Casey, one of the writers on the film,

2499
01:51:25.960 --> 01:51:28.520
stated that Tony Collett and Christa Stadler's characters who is

2500
01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:31.159
Omy are based off his real life mother and grandmother.

2501
01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:34.560
Omi's backstory was inspired by a true family backstory.

2502
01:51:35.039 --> 01:51:37.159
He didn't say what it was fun.

2503
01:51:38.279 --> 01:51:42.079
Jesus Simon Wilkins, the storyboard artist of the film, states

2504
01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:45.399
the entire film was storyboarded, including dialogue scenes. The first

2505
01:51:45.399 --> 01:51:48.199
sequence he recalls storyboarding was the chase scene between Crampus

2506
01:51:48.279 --> 01:51:50.920
and Beth on the Street. Wilkins ads he usually has

2507
01:51:51.039 --> 01:51:53.640
movies on while he storyboards, and was watching Anchorman while

2508
01:51:53.680 --> 01:51:56.199
storyboarding the first scene of Howard and Linda's arrival and

2509
01:51:56.319 --> 01:51:59.239
started sketching Keckner into his boards before he even was cast.

2510
01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:01.520
Dougherty took notes of this and ended up having a

2511
01:52:01.560 --> 01:52:04.319
meeting with Keckner showing him the storyboards. Keckner left his

2512
01:52:04.439 --> 01:52:06.199
office that day having accepted the role.

2513
01:52:06.399 --> 01:52:08.960
That's crazy, that's wild. I would never have guessed. That's

2514
01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:09.800
how it came about.

2515
01:52:10.039 --> 01:52:12.359
Peter Jackson invited the cast a dinner at his home

2516
01:52:12.439 --> 01:52:15.039
with his wife. Keckner recalls that he ended up getting

2517
01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:17.279
seated right next to Jackson and they enjoyed the evening,

2518
01:52:17.359 --> 01:52:19.640
sharing their loves of old time comedy of Laurel and Hardy,

2519
01:52:19.680 --> 01:52:21.319
Avid and Costello, the Fristooges and.

2520
01:52:21.359 --> 01:52:25.800
More, Aubut and Costello, Abbott and Costello, Abba and Costello.

2521
01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:28.560
Very great band, highly underrated during filming.

2522
01:52:28.720 --> 01:52:31.319
A fan and friend of Keckner, Adam Scott, had two

2523
01:52:31.399 --> 01:52:33.720
funny incidents that Keckner recalls, one of which being that

2524
01:52:33.800 --> 01:52:36.159
Keckner was on set texting on his phone while Scott

2525
01:52:36.239 --> 01:52:38.119
walked past, grabbing the phone out of his hand and

2526
01:52:38.199 --> 01:52:40.520
dropping it into the nearest trash can, and continued walking

2527
01:52:40.600 --> 01:52:42.640
with no look back or mention of it later on set.

2528
01:52:43.159 --> 01:52:43.800
That's a good one.

2529
01:52:44.039 --> 01:52:46.840
The second incident he recalled was during the scene in

2530
01:52:46.880 --> 01:52:48.560
which the group is looking over the map of the

2531
01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:51.560
town planning an escape route. Scott was mapping their route

2532
01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:53.479
by drawing Dix on the map while the actors were

2533
01:52:53.520 --> 01:52:54.359
filmed in close up.

2534
01:52:55.960 --> 01:52:56.920
That's a good one too. Yeah.

2535
01:52:57.319 --> 01:52:59.520
Alison Toleman, who portrays Linda in the film and moved

2536
01:52:59.520 --> 01:53:02.359
to la after her success in Fargo TV series while

2537
01:53:02.399 --> 01:53:04.840
guest spotting on various TV shows, came across the script

2538
01:53:04.880 --> 01:53:06.920
from Crampis due to her agent, who informed her she

2539
01:53:06.920 --> 01:53:08.800
would probably have an easy time getting the gig as

2540
01:53:08.840 --> 01:53:12.000
Doherty was looking for had contacted her agent stating he

2541
01:53:12.119 --> 01:53:15.119
was looking for an Alison Tolman type, unaware that she

2542
01:53:15.239 --> 01:53:18.319
represented Tolman. Tolman had a meeting with Doherty at his office,

2543
01:53:18.319 --> 01:53:20.079
where she agreed to do the film as long as

2544
01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:22.479
he promised not to prank her on or offset, as

2545
01:53:22.520 --> 01:53:26.359
Dougherty is notorious prankster in his films Oh Dear. Yeah.

2546
01:53:27.720 --> 01:53:29.680
The scene in which the family is hearing various sounds

2547
01:53:29.720 --> 01:53:31.960
in the attic was pulled off with authentic reactions of

2548
01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:35.119
the actors. During filming, Dougherty was on the second floor

2549
01:53:35.119 --> 01:53:37.239
of the set, lightly walking from room to room with

2550
01:53:37.319 --> 01:53:39.439
two boards. He would then bang on the floors and

2551
01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:41.680
walls in different rooms to give the appearance of Crampus's

2552
01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:42.920
minions wandering the attic.

2553
01:53:43.439 --> 01:53:45.920
Now, I mean that works. You'd be amazed how loud

2554
01:53:45.960 --> 01:53:47.600
boards are when you hit them together. Man. Yeah.

2555
01:53:48.199 --> 01:53:50.359
None of the creatures were shown in their completed states

2556
01:53:50.399 --> 01:53:52.840
to the actors until the days of shooting with them arrived.

2557
01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:55.479
This is very evident in reactions during the attic siege,

2558
01:53:55.560 --> 01:53:58.079
as well as Max's first running with Crampus in the snow.

2559
01:53:58.720 --> 01:54:01.720
Yeah they looked sincerely surprised.

2560
01:54:01.800 --> 01:54:04.880
Yeah uh. The visible breath and cold exteriors was done digitally,

2561
01:54:04.960 --> 01:54:07.520
but a major component of it involved filming real people

2562
01:54:07.560 --> 01:54:10.279
and freezers reading dialogue for the scenes. Their breath was

2563
01:54:10.319 --> 01:54:12.920
then isolated and added optically in shots.

2564
01:54:13.279 --> 01:54:16.680
That is going all the way. Yeah, I mean at

2565
01:54:16.720 --> 01:54:20.079
that point, at that point, like should maybe you should

2566
01:54:20.119 --> 01:54:21.520
just do what they did in the thing and just

2567
01:54:21.720 --> 01:54:24.720
and just drop the temperature to like forty eight degrees

2568
01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:26.920
and turn the humidity up all the way out. Because

2569
01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:29.600
that's that's a that's that's I'm impressed that that's how

2570
01:54:29.640 --> 01:54:30.479
far they went for it.

2571
01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:33.720
Composer Douglas Pipes described his music as a collection of

2572
01:54:33.760 --> 01:54:36.760
twisted Christmas carols with pegan thrown in. He incorporated the

2573
01:54:36.800 --> 01:54:40.439
sounds of chains, bells, bones, and animal skin drums into

2574
01:54:40.479 --> 01:54:43.560
the score and had choirs chant and whisper in different tongues.

2575
01:54:43.720 --> 01:54:46.039
Christmas music, but with pegging included.

2576
01:54:47.560 --> 01:54:51.840
Nice fucking christ. Crampis's true face is hidden underneath the

2577
01:54:51.880 --> 01:54:54.039
Santa Claus like mask and has never fully revealed to

2578
01:54:54.079 --> 01:54:56.600
the audience as a choice by filmmakers to allow viewers

2579
01:54:56.640 --> 01:54:59.159
to make their own conclusions on his actual appearance. His

2580
01:54:59.319 --> 01:55:01.960
eyes and mouth only visible traces that can be seen

2581
01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:03.039
throughout parts of the mask.

2582
01:55:03.159 --> 01:55:05.399
His eyes are like a demented goat size.

2583
01:55:05.520 --> 01:55:05.720
Yeah.

2584
01:55:06.199 --> 01:55:08.039
Luke Hawker, who plays Crampus in the film, says the

2585
01:55:08.079 --> 01:55:10.279
fireplace reveals scene with Crampis was one of the most

2586
01:55:10.359 --> 01:55:13.640
difficult Crampus scenes to shoot. The fireplace was a cramp space,

2587
01:55:13.720 --> 01:55:16.239
but with two performers in the suit added difficulty for

2588
01:55:16.359 --> 01:55:18.720
movement and visibility, to the point he states he couldn't

2589
01:55:18.720 --> 01:55:22.000
see Christa's face during the moment Crampis caresses Omi's face,

2590
01:55:22.279 --> 01:55:23.920
he was grateful that he didn't poke her eye.

2591
01:55:24.239 --> 01:55:26.279
Hey, you think that's bad, try play on a horse

2592
01:55:26.319 --> 01:55:26.960
with another guy.

2593
01:55:28.319 --> 01:55:31.359
The movie's ambiguous ending has spawned two fan theories. Number

2594
01:55:31.399 --> 01:55:33.439
one that the Angles and their family are trapped in

2595
01:55:33.479 --> 01:55:35.680
a snow globe condemned to repeat Christmas Morning for an

2596
01:55:35.680 --> 01:55:39.199
eternity in a twisted version of Hell. Or two they

2597
01:55:39.239 --> 01:55:41.119
were given a second chance, and the snow globe is

2598
01:55:41.119 --> 01:55:44.159
Crampus's means of watching over them. Although writer and director

2599
01:55:44.239 --> 01:55:46.720
Dougherty has refused to confirm which theory is true, the

2600
01:55:46.800 --> 01:55:49.720
tie in comic book Shadow of Saint Nicholas confirms that

2601
01:55:49.800 --> 01:55:52.199
the happy ending is the true one. The comic has

2602
01:55:52.319 --> 01:55:54.960
murdered characters resurrected without any hint of a twist, showing

2603
01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:57.119
that Crampus is willing to give people a second chance

2604
01:55:57.159 --> 01:55:59.600
as long as they prove they've learned their lesson. Unlike

2605
01:55:59.640 --> 01:56:01.960
his grand mother, Max is brave enough to confront Crampis

2606
01:56:02.039 --> 01:56:04.439
and prove he learned his lesson, which was why Max

2607
01:56:04.479 --> 01:56:07.600
and his family returned and the grandmothers didn't Doherty says

2608
01:56:07.640 --> 01:56:11.319
the later is a cynical, albeit possible interpretation.

2609
01:56:11.439 --> 01:56:13.680
Hmm okay okay, while the.

2610
01:56:13.680 --> 01:56:15.840
Alternate ending is included on the four K showing the

2611
01:56:15.880 --> 01:56:17.840
same ending with the change that only Max and Omi

2612
01:56:17.880 --> 01:56:19.960
are the ones that notice the eeriness as when he

2613
01:56:20.000 --> 01:56:21.840
opens the bell. I kind of like that a little

2614
01:56:21.840 --> 01:56:25.800
bit more, honestly, Uh there, excuse me. According to Wilkins,

2615
01:56:25.880 --> 01:56:27.479
there was a scene that takes place at the ending

2616
01:56:27.520 --> 01:56:30.520
before Max confronts Crampis, where Max would drive a snowplow

2617
01:56:30.560 --> 01:56:33.199
to Megamart the male at the beginning, which he finds

2618
01:56:33.279 --> 01:56:35.760
frozen over along with few inside of it. There, he

2619
01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:38.520
would find a contraption being run by Crampus's minions that

2620
01:56:38.560 --> 01:56:42.039
would turn people into fruitcakes. Max finds Beth alive and

2621
01:56:42.079 --> 01:56:43.960
the two begin to fight off Crampis's elves in an

2622
01:56:43.960 --> 01:56:46.079
attempt to save his family from the conveyor belter on.

2623
01:56:46.560 --> 01:56:48.680
Max and Beth would initially get caught by the elves,

2624
01:56:48.720 --> 01:56:52.119
and the scene would resume with Max's confrontation of Crampus's.

2625
01:56:51.520 --> 01:56:54.920
That's a little too Gremlins two, yeah, not Gremlins one.

2626
01:56:55.079 --> 01:56:55.279
Yeah.

2627
01:56:55.479 --> 01:56:55.640
You know.

2628
01:56:56.359 --> 01:56:59.399
So what are your final thoughts on twenty fifteen's Crampus.

2629
01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:02.039
I try not to have any thoughts whenever I can

2630
01:57:02.079 --> 01:57:04.319
help it. It hurt. No, it's a by It. It's

2631
01:57:04.359 --> 01:57:06.680
a by it. It's a class it's a modern classic

2632
01:57:07.279 --> 01:57:11.640
Christmas horror movie. It's it's holiday enough to really get

2633
01:57:11.720 --> 01:57:14.720
you in the spirit of the season. It's PG. Thirteen.

2634
01:57:14.800 --> 01:57:17.079
You could pretty much watch it with the whole family.

2635
01:57:17.560 --> 01:57:20.000
I mean, there's a little bit of swearing, but it's

2636
01:57:20.039 --> 01:57:20.600
not too bad.

2637
01:57:20.720 --> 01:57:20.920
Yeah.

2638
01:57:22.800 --> 01:57:25.079
The only thing I'm mad about about this movie is

2639
01:57:25.079 --> 01:57:27.079
I don't understand how there's not a sequel. I know

2640
01:57:27.760 --> 01:57:29.720
it did pretty good at the box office, that had

2641
01:57:29.760 --> 01:57:33.840
great reviews. Doherty is out there working. I just a

2642
01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:37.079
Crampus too. I was shocked there wasn't one within two Christmas.

2643
01:57:37.680 --> 01:57:39.960
I thought there'd be one within two Christmases and there wasn't.

2644
01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:42.680
I was like, we could have a whole world of

2645
01:57:42.800 --> 01:57:43.640
Crampis movies.

2646
01:57:43.760 --> 01:57:45.079
Yeah, so ye we do.

2647
01:57:45.279 --> 01:57:48.399
Unfortunately, Wow, hateful Dave over here.

2648
01:57:48.520 --> 01:57:51.319
Hate you tell me half of those Crampus movies are good.

2649
01:57:52.319 --> 01:57:53.920
I mean, I'm not going to tell you that. Yeah,

2650
01:57:53.920 --> 01:57:57.359
you're mean. I mean, well, we'll see how you feel

2651
01:57:57.359 --> 01:57:59.760
when Crampus comes and visits you with your bottle of

2652
01:57:59.800 --> 01:58:00.680
wine in the shower.

2653
01:58:01.720 --> 01:58:03.479
It was at least like five or six years ago, oh,

2654
01:58:03.560 --> 01:58:06.760
he remembers. Yeah, it's a buy it for me as well.

2655
01:58:07.239 --> 01:58:08.880
I think it's one of those movies that you, like,

2656
01:58:08.960 --> 01:58:11.239
you said, you could show to the entire family. It's

2657
01:58:11.279 --> 01:58:13.600
a great one to throw on every Christmas. It has

2658
01:58:13.640 --> 01:58:16.399
become a regular of my rotation. The characters are so

2659
01:58:16.680 --> 01:58:19.159
written and fleshed out well that you really do care

2660
01:58:19.199 --> 01:58:21.039
about every single one of them, even if some of

2661
01:58:21.079 --> 01:58:24.600
them do act shitty sometimes. Yes, but the characters are great,

2662
01:58:24.720 --> 01:58:27.399
the story's fun, and the scares still get me.

2663
01:58:27.439 --> 01:58:29.560
To this day. Yeah, they're very effective.

2664
01:58:29.720 --> 01:58:31.239
So yeah, it's a buy it for both of us.

2665
01:58:31.279 --> 01:58:33.760
We always like to end the show with a couple recommendations.

2666
01:58:33.920 --> 01:58:36.000
I have two this week, the first one being a

2667
01:58:36.079 --> 01:58:39.640
Christmas horror story from twenty fifteen, currently available on AMC Plus.

2668
01:58:40.159 --> 01:58:42.600
It says interwoven stories that take place on Christmas Eve,

2669
01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:45.439
as told by one festive radio host, a family brings

2670
01:58:45.479 --> 01:58:47.800
home more than a Christmas tree, a student documentary becomes

2671
01:58:47.840 --> 01:58:51.000
a living nightmare, and a Christmas spirit terrorizes while Santa

2672
01:58:51.119 --> 01:58:51.760
slays evil.

2673
01:58:52.000 --> 01:58:54.000
That one aged really well, I did love it the

2674
01:58:54.039 --> 01:58:56.479
first time I watched it, but now I really like it.

2675
01:58:56.600 --> 01:58:58.920
Yeah. And my second recommendation, I'm gonna go with a

2676
01:58:59.239 --> 01:59:02.039
nineties class that is currently on Peacock Pluto two B

2677
01:59:02.199 --> 01:59:05.880
and Prime Jack Frost Mutant Killer Snowman I Love Michael

2678
01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:08.640
Keaton has a notorious serial killer, Jack Frost, is being

2679
01:59:08.720 --> 01:59:11.279
driven to his execution. The truck carrying the murder encounters

2680
01:59:11.319 --> 01:59:14.359
a bizarre accident that transforms him into a mutant snowman.

2681
01:59:14.520 --> 01:59:18.039
Sheriff Sam Taylor, who caught the psychopath originally, has remained

2682
01:59:18.079 --> 01:59:20.239
concerned about his return, and it seems that his fears

2683
01:59:20.239 --> 01:59:23.159
were only well founded before long bodies pile up, all

2684
01:59:23.279 --> 01:59:24.720
killed in gruesome wintry ways.

2685
01:59:25.680 --> 01:59:29.640
The long Long synopsis, Well, I decided to go with

2686
01:59:29.760 --> 01:59:32.640
letting the world burn. Oh, I love that I wanted.

2687
01:59:32.760 --> 01:59:35.720
I wanted to go fucking what the hell? I think

2688
01:59:37.439 --> 01:59:41.560
so close the availability of it, but it's so unavailable

2689
01:59:41.600 --> 01:59:43.760
that I don't even feel bad. Saying just watch it

2690
01:59:43.840 --> 01:59:46.600
on YouTube. Yeah, that's fair because it's you can't get

2691
01:59:46.640 --> 01:59:51.119
it in any way legitimately, No, like you have, but

2692
01:59:51.520 --> 01:59:54.119
that's what I mean. But like those aren't in print,

2693
01:59:54.279 --> 01:59:57.079
I mean you have to they're collectible. Yeah, it is

2694
01:59:57.479 --> 02:00:00.399
one of the craziest goddamn things I've ever seen. Life

2695
02:00:00.600 --> 02:00:03.560
from nineteen eighty nine Elves a woman. This is the

2696
02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:06.399
description on IMDb. A woman finds she is part of

2697
02:00:06.479 --> 02:00:11.880
a Nazi breeding experiment with elves to create Superman. She

2698
02:00:12.119 --> 02:00:14.359
and friends are trapped in a store with an elf.

2699
02:00:15.039 --> 02:00:17.119
Only a renegade Santa Claus can save them.

2700
02:00:17.199 --> 02:00:19.039
And who is that renegade Santa Claus played by it?

2701
02:00:19.159 --> 02:00:20.600
I don't fuck it. Dan Haggerty.

2702
02:00:20.760 --> 02:00:22.640
Yes, yeah, Grizzly Adams himself.

2703
02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:26.760
And it is so worth your time. That description makes

2704
02:00:26.800 --> 02:00:29.920
it sound saner. Actually it is completely out of its mind.

2705
02:00:29.920 --> 02:00:32.199
I'm so happy I saw a couple of days ago

2706
02:00:33.159 --> 02:00:37.319
the still of Dan Haggerty where it says, now, what

2707
02:00:37.479 --> 02:00:39.439
do the Nazis have to do with the elves? Is

2708
02:00:39.520 --> 02:00:43.279
going viral again. We're just passing it around. So I

2709
02:00:43.600 --> 02:00:46.600
want to recommend elves. You can't. I mean, like, it's

2710
02:00:46.720 --> 02:00:49.119
not a matter of money. If you have twenty dollars,

2711
02:00:49.199 --> 02:00:52.159
you can't watch Elves with the twenty dollars. So I

2712
02:00:52.279 --> 02:00:55.600
don't feel bad saying just find it on YouTube one day.

2713
02:00:55.600 --> 02:00:57.800
I hope the rights issues can be figured out so

2714
02:00:57.880 --> 02:01:00.520
we can get a legitimate release and who whoever owns

2715
02:01:00.560 --> 02:01:02.600
it can make some money. But that ain't happening right now,

2716
02:01:02.640 --> 02:01:04.279
and it probably isn' gonna happen for a long time.

2717
02:01:04.720 --> 02:01:08.600
So Elves from nineteen eighty nine. Just type in Elves

2718
02:01:08.680 --> 02:01:12.720
nineteen eighty nine into YouTube, put that on, you know,

2719
02:01:12.840 --> 02:01:15.159
watch it with someone you love or someone you hate.

2720
02:01:15.600 --> 02:01:19.119
They're both good options. It's a great, great romp and

2721
02:01:19.720 --> 02:01:20.199
so silly.

2722
02:01:20.319 --> 02:01:21.479
It is not PG thirteen.

2723
02:01:21.560 --> 02:01:22.199
That is a lie.

2724
02:01:22.560 --> 02:01:27.199
IMDb never lies. You're the liar. Do You Even?

2725
02:01:27.359 --> 02:01:38.399
Movie will be right back, Welcome back to Do You Even?

2726
02:01:38.560 --> 02:01:38.880
Movie?

2727
02:01:43.680 --> 02:01:45.279
Since it is Christmas Eve. I did want to throw

2728
02:01:45.359 --> 02:01:47.199
one out there that you and I both love that

2729
02:01:47.319 --> 02:01:50.319
is readily available right now and usually isn't huh P

2730
02:01:50.560 --> 02:01:52.399
two from two thousand and seven.

2731
02:01:52.199 --> 02:01:54.720
You mean PB two Peanut Butter Powder.

2732
02:01:54.840 --> 02:01:58.800
P two from two thousand and seven, starring Rachel Nicholas

2733
02:01:58.840 --> 02:01:59.479
and Wes Bentley.

2734
02:01:59.520 --> 02:02:03.239
Sorry, it's okay, you need to hit control of the lead.

2735
02:02:03.279 --> 02:02:05.119
I think got up. This is the story of a

2736
02:02:05.159 --> 02:02:07.600
businesswoman is pursued by a psychopath that they're being locked

2737
02:02:07.600 --> 02:02:11.319
in a parking garage on Christmas Eve. This movie is insane,

2738
02:02:11.720 --> 02:02:12.560
super super good.

2739
02:02:12.600 --> 02:02:17.039
It's from that ending era of the somewhat French inspired

2740
02:02:17.119 --> 02:02:21.960
extreme horror. It has everything you could ever want from

2741
02:02:22.000 --> 02:02:25.760
a parking garage. Yeah, car chases in the parking garage,

2742
02:02:26.079 --> 02:02:29.600
horrible murder, torture, torment, psychopaths trying to make a.

2743
02:02:29.600 --> 02:02:31.520
Woman love her, psychopaths in Santa suit.

2744
02:02:31.960 --> 02:02:34.359
Yes, no, for real. It's got just about everything you

2745
02:02:34.399 --> 02:02:40.079
could want. P Two is a awesome holiday option. And

2746
02:02:40.159 --> 02:02:43.399
if I'm gonna throw in a contender for great holiday movie,

2747
02:02:43.520 --> 02:02:45.520
do it, I would know that I don't want to

2748
02:02:45.520 --> 02:02:49.159
see it anymore. You ruined it. I was gonna say

2749
02:02:49.199 --> 02:02:49.600
dead End.

2750
02:02:49.880 --> 02:02:53.399
Dead End's good. And if you like dead End, what

2751
02:02:53.680 --> 02:02:54.119
wind Chill?

2752
02:02:54.239 --> 02:02:58.680
Windchill? They're very similar movies, but wind Chill has a

2753
02:02:58.720 --> 02:03:03.079
bigger budget. It's the snowstorm. I would say that dead

2754
02:03:03.199 --> 02:03:07.000
End has more of the wacky fun element as to

2755
02:03:07.039 --> 02:03:11.199
where Windchill is more of the staunch, cold, greasy ghost story.

2756
02:03:11.399 --> 02:03:14.760
They're both about being on a haunted road on Christmas

2757
02:03:14.800 --> 02:03:18.039
Eve and getting trapped. Yeah, and anything more than that

2758
02:03:18.600 --> 02:03:21.159
could spoil it. But it's really really fun.

2759
02:03:21.359 --> 02:03:24.560
Yeah, and they are readily available right now. That those

2760
02:03:24.640 --> 02:03:27.680
are our Christmas Eve horror suggestions for the show, I

2761
02:03:27.680 --> 02:03:28.439
would say, yeah.

2762
02:03:28.279 --> 02:03:30.960
If you're listening to this while you're you know, making

2763
02:03:31.039 --> 02:03:33.840
deviled eggs and punching the table or whatever, we hope

2764
02:03:33.880 --> 02:03:36.279
that you're that we helped you relax a little bit

2765
02:03:36.359 --> 02:03:39.600
this holiday. If you happen to somehow be with Dave's

2766
02:03:39.680 --> 02:03:43.840
least favorite relative, I'm sorry. If you would just say

2767
02:03:43.880 --> 02:03:46.760
who it is, then maybe you could protect yourself from it. Nope,

2768
02:03:46.760 --> 02:03:49.079
but David does not love you, not the way I do.

2769
02:03:49.239 --> 02:03:51.000
But but I do love them. Because you want to

2770
02:03:51.039 --> 02:03:53.680
know what we're talking about next week on the show, Well.

2771
02:03:53.600 --> 02:03:54.840
We haven't even gotten to emails.

2772
02:03:55.319 --> 02:03:56.000
We have emails.

2773
02:03:56.520 --> 02:03:59.760
I think we have one. Oh, I mean we're running late,

2774
02:03:59.840 --> 02:04:04.000
but what the hell, it's Christmas Christmas, so we have,

2775
02:04:04.159 --> 02:04:07.680
I believe, Yeah, one email from our buddy Tyler, who

2776
02:04:07.720 --> 02:04:10.039
ironically sent this email two days ago, and then I

2777
02:04:10.079 --> 02:04:14.039
had lunch with him today. But this is a tough

2778
02:04:14.119 --> 02:04:17.880
one because this is like a this is a big question.

2779
02:04:19.359 --> 02:04:22.600
So Tyler sent an email. Send it to do you

2780
02:04:22.720 --> 02:04:25.279
even movie pod at gmail dot com. You're welcome to

2781
02:04:25.359 --> 02:04:28.960
send us an email yourself. It says, boys, what are

2782
02:04:29.199 --> 02:04:32.920
five of your personal favorite movies that you think don't

2783
02:04:32.920 --> 02:04:35.840
get enough love? Oh my god, I told you it

2784
02:04:35.960 --> 02:04:36.520
was not easy.

2785
02:04:38.960 --> 02:04:42.079
Shit. That is gonna take a second. Do you have one?

2786
02:04:42.600 --> 02:04:43.800
I have? I have several.

2787
02:04:44.119 --> 02:04:45.039
Go ahead and give one of yours.

2788
02:04:45.680 --> 02:04:49.720
Okay, So number one observant report with seth Rogen. Phenomenal film.

2789
02:04:50.279 --> 02:04:53.439
Everybody should watch it. Straight Into Darkness by Jeff Burr.

2790
02:04:54.039 --> 02:04:58.640
Phenomenal movie. Everybody should watch it, stars David Warner. I

2791
02:04:58.720 --> 02:05:00.039
mean those are just off the top of my I

2792
02:05:00.079 --> 02:05:00.680
had immediately.

2793
02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:03.199
I'm gonna go with Skin Deep with John Ritter Blake

2794
02:05:03.279 --> 02:05:06.720
Edwards directed a very fun love story about a guy

2795
02:05:06.760 --> 02:05:09.600
that's basically thrown away every relationship he's had so far,

2796
02:05:09.640 --> 02:05:11.159
so he's trying to figure out what's wrong with him.

2797
02:05:11.319 --> 02:05:13.920
A really really good movie. That's one of my personal favorites.

2798
02:05:14.800 --> 02:05:20.760
Second to that, I would probably go with God, Dude,

2799
02:05:20.800 --> 02:05:23.159
this is a hard one. Shut up.

2800
02:05:24.199 --> 02:05:26.359
Uh, I didn't read this ahead?

2801
02:05:26.479 --> 02:05:27.720
Yeah I did.

2802
02:05:27.880 --> 02:05:29.680
I peaked it briefly right before the show.

2803
02:05:29.800 --> 02:05:32.560
My brain is not braining, but skin Deep's a big

2804
02:05:32.600 --> 02:05:33.920
one for me. I'm trying to think of some other one.

2805
02:05:33.960 --> 02:05:34.920
It's hard. Do you watch movies?

2806
02:05:35.000 --> 02:05:36.760
Shut up trying to help?

2807
02:05:37.960 --> 02:05:39.239
Gosh, I mean I've already said two.

2808
02:05:39.319 --> 02:05:43.680
I know, I know, I know. Oh, The Founder with

2809
02:05:43.760 --> 02:05:44.640
Michael Keaton.

2810
02:05:44.800 --> 02:05:46.479
I don't feel like that's that underappreciated.

2811
02:05:46.479 --> 02:05:48.479
Okay, then I'm gonna go with Desperate Measures with Michael Keaton,

2812
02:05:48.560 --> 02:05:51.119
with him and Andy Garcia. Keaton plays an inmates that

2813
02:05:51.399 --> 02:05:55.960
is basically up for a operation to give Garcia's son

2814
02:05:56.079 --> 02:05:59.680
the body Yeah, the body part he needs I can't

2815
02:05:59.680 --> 02:06:01.199
think of or can he needs?

2816
02:06:01.359 --> 02:06:01.680
Gotcha?

2817
02:06:01.880 --> 02:06:02.479
It's really good.

2818
02:06:02.880 --> 02:06:05.399
Lake View Terras. Lake View Terras is excellent, phenomenal movie

2819
02:06:05.439 --> 02:06:11.159
with Samuel Jackson, very very scary, very intense film, and

2820
02:06:11.279 --> 02:06:12.560
I feel like it kind of came and went, but

2821
02:06:12.640 --> 02:06:13.399
it was really really good.

2822
02:06:13.520 --> 02:06:16.680
Yeah, I would go with the The Paper. I'll go

2823
02:06:16.760 --> 02:06:19.079
with another Michael mike On. Gosh, dude, it's that's an

2824
02:06:19.079 --> 02:06:20.760
easy one because I've seen a lot of his movies,

2825
02:06:20.800 --> 02:06:22.239
and I think a lot of his movies are underrated.

2826
02:06:22.680 --> 02:06:25.079
Okay, Well, I didn't expect you to name when that

2827
02:06:25.199 --> 02:06:27.439
fast I am. I am I have two more left.

2828
02:06:27.880 --> 02:06:28.840
I'm trying my best.

2829
02:06:30.760 --> 02:06:33.680
Gosh, uh, super super fantastic.

2830
02:06:33.520 --> 02:06:36.720
Directed by James Gunn, starring Rain Wilson. That's one that

2831
02:06:36.800 --> 02:06:39.720
I really think people need to watch. It's very, very,

2832
02:06:39.800 --> 02:06:40.199
very good.

2833
02:06:41.359 --> 02:06:43.560
I'm I'm seriously having trouble with this. This is stupid.

2834
02:06:45.960 --> 02:06:48.760
Is that the title of a SWIGN film?

2835
02:06:51.840 --> 02:06:52.000
Oh?

2836
02:06:52.159 --> 02:06:52.319
God?

2837
02:06:52.399 --> 02:06:52.640
Really?

2838
02:06:52.680 --> 02:06:54.680
I mean yeah, I should I should have been better prepared.

2839
02:06:54.800 --> 02:06:56.680
My brain is so focused on cramp is stuff that

2840
02:06:56.760 --> 02:06:57.880
I'm yeah, yeah, and.

2841
02:06:57.960 --> 02:07:00.199
It was a very long day, so yeah, blame it

2842
02:07:00.279 --> 02:07:04.159
on cramps. Shut up, I've blame it on crampis.

2843
02:07:05.199 --> 02:07:05.399
Well.

2844
02:07:05.680 --> 02:07:07.079
I guess that's all your worth.

2845
02:07:07.199 --> 02:07:09.800
Tyler, Tyler, I apologize. This is it's been a long

2846
02:07:09.920 --> 02:07:13.039
day and if I would have known this question was coming,

2847
02:07:13.079 --> 02:07:14.960
And that's no offense to you. I'm I'm not saying that.

2848
02:07:15.079 --> 02:07:17.560
It's more so just yeah. I can't think of any

2849
02:07:17.560 --> 02:07:19.000
off the top of my head right now. There's there's

2850
02:07:19.039 --> 02:07:19.439
too many.

2851
02:07:22.159 --> 02:07:23.600
What It's a shame.

2852
02:07:23.920 --> 02:07:26.880
Fine Prime Cut with Gene Hackman and Lee Marvin. It's

2853
02:07:26.920 --> 02:07:30.319
a really good Kansas City gangster movie. Yeah, Prime Cuts, really,

2854
02:07:30.479 --> 02:07:32.920
Prime Cut's good. And on top of Prime Cut, I

2855
02:07:32.920 --> 02:07:35.600
would probably go with Rolling Vengeance, which is a crazy

2856
02:07:35.720 --> 02:07:38.920
ass vigilanti movie about a guy that, remember I've shown

2857
02:07:38.920 --> 02:07:41.600
it to you, Rolling Vengeance, the guy that builds the

2858
02:07:41.720 --> 02:07:43.840
ultimate like monster truck that has Yeah.

2859
02:07:43.920 --> 02:07:44.880
Oh that movie's crazy.

2860
02:07:44.960 --> 02:07:46.319
Yeah. And then on top of that, Eye of the

2861
02:07:46.359 --> 02:07:47.359
Tiger with Gary Bucy.

2862
02:07:47.479 --> 02:07:50.600
Okay, now you're just cheating. I mean that's that's I

2863
02:07:50.680 --> 02:07:52.399
feel like that one's kind of famous though, it's that

2864
02:07:52.479 --> 02:07:53.479
you've already named five.

2865
02:07:53.600 --> 02:07:56.039
Yeah, I could keep going now now now, now, now

2866
02:07:56.119 --> 02:07:57.359
that my synapsis a fire.

2867
02:07:57.279 --> 02:07:59.079
Well let me just I'll just flip the camera to

2868
02:07:59.159 --> 02:08:01.159
you and I'm gonna go have some eggbo I'm good

2869
02:08:01.199 --> 02:08:03.199
with those. Uh. If I had to pick one more,

2870
02:08:03.279 --> 02:08:05.960
I was trying to pick one that really people don't

2871
02:08:06.079 --> 02:08:10.520
know a lot about. Oh oh god, duh Switch with Jimmy.

2872
02:08:10.239 --> 02:08:11.119
Switzer Jimmy smiitch.

2873
02:08:11.319 --> 02:08:14.600
Yeah, that's another movie. Yeah yeah, that's a really good film.

2874
02:08:14.720 --> 02:08:16.239
Yea that I wish more people knew.

2875
02:08:16.439 --> 02:08:17.319
So there you go.

2876
02:08:17.600 --> 02:08:21.319
That was a hard one. But uh, eventually Dave raised

2877
02:08:21.319 --> 02:08:24.199
to the occasion. I literally had to picture my blue

2878
02:08:24.279 --> 02:08:28.039
rays at my house. But I will say, Tyler, Dave

2879
02:08:28.119 --> 02:08:31.159
will be whispering your name while he has his shower wine.

2880
02:08:31.399 --> 02:08:33.680
Don't. I don't believe that's gonna happen. Well, I haven't

2881
02:08:33.760 --> 02:08:35.359
had shower wine in a long time, sir.

2882
02:08:35.520 --> 02:08:40.640
That means your due. No, that's not Christmas, it's the holidays. Holidays,

2883
02:08:40.840 --> 02:08:43.199
So well, we're gonna get the fuck out of here.

2884
02:08:43.319 --> 02:08:44.680
Well, would you like to know what we're talking about? No,

2885
02:08:45.479 --> 02:08:47.840
so it is our New Year's Eve show, because this

2886
02:08:48.159 --> 02:08:50.319
this will be dropping on New Year's Eve, and I

2887
02:08:50.439 --> 02:08:53.680
am giving you another first time watch my favorite What

2888
02:08:53.760 --> 02:08:57.199
a Gift nineteen eighty three is Get Crazy, okay, and

2889
02:08:57.359 --> 02:08:59.880
this is a movie about a concert hall that is

2890
02:09:00.199 --> 02:09:02.439
in dire straits. The owner ends up having a heart attack.

2891
02:09:02.439 --> 02:09:04.800
They're trying to save it with this last show. Ed

2892
02:09:04.880 --> 02:09:06.960
Begley Junior is playing a bad guy and he's trying

2893
02:09:07.000 --> 02:09:08.960
to swoop in and get the concert venue. Meanwhile, they're

2894
02:09:08.960 --> 02:09:10.720
trying to get the show going on. You got young

2895
02:09:10.840 --> 02:09:14.760
Daniel Stern, young Malcolm McDowell, Ed Begley Junior, a bunch

2896
02:09:14.800 --> 02:09:16.600
of other people in it, and it's a lot of fun.

2897
02:09:17.840 --> 02:09:19.960
Okay, Well, I guess that's how we're ending the year

2898
02:09:20.119 --> 02:09:24.439
with me being disappointed. You're not gonna be disappointed, So anyway, guys,

2899
02:09:24.520 --> 02:09:26.760
We do hope you have a very good holiday. We

2900
02:09:26.880 --> 02:09:29.720
hope you watch something fun with somebody you like. Yes,

2901
02:09:30.119 --> 02:09:33.479
maybe don't have so much wine in the shower, but honestly,

2902
02:09:33.560 --> 02:09:35.960
at the same time, eggnog in the shower would be

2903
02:09:36.119 --> 02:09:39.239
really sad and gross and gross. It might kurdle depending

2904
02:09:39.279 --> 02:09:42.359
on the setting on your water heater. Yeah, but thank

2905
02:09:42.399 --> 02:09:44.359
you guys for hanging out with us. You can email

2906
02:09:44.439 --> 02:09:46.640
us at dooeven moviepot at gmail dot com. You can

2907
02:09:46.680 --> 02:09:49.000
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2908
02:09:49.039 --> 02:09:51.399
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2909
02:09:51.399 --> 02:09:53.760
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2910
02:09:53.800 --> 02:09:55.760
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2911
02:09:55.800 --> 02:09:57.680
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2912
02:09:57.760 --> 02:10:00.840
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2913
02:10:00.880 --> 02:10:02.880
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2914
02:10:02.920 --> 02:10:06.960
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2915
02:10:08.039 --> 02:10:10.439
old man coming down the chimney difference, it does, indeed.

2916
02:10:10.920 --> 02:10:15.279
So I guess there's nothing left to say. But we'll

2917
02:10:15.319 --> 02:10:18.119
see you guys for New Year's Eve. Yes, and until then,

2918
02:10:19.720 --> 02:10:22.560
just don't don't I know your friends are doing it,

2919
02:10:23.199 --> 02:10:25.800
so you want to do it, but take it from

2920
02:10:25.840 --> 02:10:28.640
me a guy who knows. Don't be German.

2921
02:10:29.039 --> 02:10:29.920
Don't be German.

2922
02:10:29.960 --> 02:10:32.239
I guess see you next Tuesday, guys,