June 27, 2025

Do You Even Movie? | JAWS: The Revenge (1987) Summer Horror Gone Wild!

Do You Even Movie? | JAWS: The Revenge (1987) Summer Horror Gone Wild!

🦈 “This time… It’s personal!” We’re kicking off Life’s A Beach Month—our annual dive into the most outrageous, overlooked, and sun-soaked summer flicks out there! And what better way to start than with one of the wildest sequels of all time?...

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🦈 “This time… It’s personal!”

We’re kicking off Life’s A Beach Month—our annual dive into the most outrageous, overlooked, and sun-soaked summer flicks out there! And what better way to start than with one of the wildest sequels of all time?

Henrique & David head to the Bahamas to take on JAWS: The Revenge (1987)—the fourth and final entry in the legendary shark saga. When Ellen Brody’s son is killed by a shark in Amity, she escapes to the islands… only to find the shark has followed her, bent on vengeance!

Directed by Joseph Sargent and starring Lorraine Gary, Lance Guest, and Mario Van Peebles, this film may have ended the franchise, but its sheer absurdity lives on.

🎧 In this episode:

  • Is this the most entertainingly bad sequel in the franchise?
  • Why was the voodoo subplot cut—but still weirdly present?
  • Does Sean Brody’s death still hit hard decades later?
  • The insane ending—why it demands a frame-by-frame rewatch
  • How the novelization takes things even further off the deep end

🌴 PLUS:
  • Where do the other JAWS films rank for our hosts?
  • Hidden gems in the killer shark and animal attack genre
  • Henrique’s week-long binge of 90s erotic thrillers
  • A sleazy, underseen summertime thriller lined up for next week!

📺 Watch JAWS: The Revenge now on Peacock: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch/asset/movies/thriller/jaws-the-revenge
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It has attacked her family.

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It picked up Sean, It killed your father.

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And haunted her dreams.

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When it killed Sean, I knew where absolute certainty it

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had come for help.

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Now there is one last battle to be fought where

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it started. Born Loreene Gary and Michael Jane yours the revenge.

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This time It's personal rated PG thirteen starts Friday at

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theaters everywhere.

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In a world where podcasts reigned Supreme Two Friends Dare

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to Ask.

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Do You Even?

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Movie hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie of ficionado

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David Denyer.

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Spoiler alert, that's one of my favorite lines in UH

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and John Leguizamo's Freak is One man show. He's talking

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about how his dad would like throw a little bit

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of it was it was his grandma would throw like liquor,

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like a little bit of liquor on them and be like, ah,

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it burns. He's like, that's because you're wicked. And then

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later his dad's shaving and he throws the after shave

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in their eyes, like ah, He's like, that's because you're wicked.

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Oh my god, that's funny, man. That's that's a great show.

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Great performance.

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Was No that was his last one because he did

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like four for HBO, right, he did.

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He did Spicarama, which was actually kind of an HBO

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like pilot for him doing a sketch comedy show, and

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because it was like really sketch heavy, heavy in character heavy. Yeah,

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he was like doing all kinds of different characters. And

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then and then he did Sexaholics Anonymous, Yeah, and then

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he did Freak. Okay, so he did those three. Freak

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was directed by Spike Lee.

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I think I remember that. Yeah, I knew that. I

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guess would say, I do know some things. Do you occasionally?

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Mhm, catch me later on that one.

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I'll catch outside? How about that?

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So?

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Oh god, so.

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I have been It has been quite the last few

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weeks for me.

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Yeah, I would say.

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So.

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I had a long filming session, very long. Ended up.

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We ended up going about an hour ten over because

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we just there was no other choice.

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Yeah, did you guys go ten to ten? Originally was

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the we.

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Went ten to about Actually we didn't go quite that long.

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We went to ten to about eleven fifteen.

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I said he went ten to midnight.

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No, thank god we didn't, because I was like about

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to die. I had tweaked my back for the second

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time in my whole life, like like tweaked my back

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where it hurt for days. Shit, And ironically, the first

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time was when I was filming a ton of stuff

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and it hurt a ton.

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Didn't you? You injured yourself backwise on a production that

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I was on. This babysitter too, is a babysitter. Okay,

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it was when we were shooting the key the key

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characters in that, Like it was longer than that, but

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I guess it was a while ago. And no, that

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that was really bad.

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But I was able to take pain medicine, which I

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can't take pain medicine during the day now without skipping

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the other medicine that I need. And I'd much rather

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have that, although I might feel different after how Sunday went.

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So I was powering through the back pain, and I've

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never like powering. I know, you have bad back, so

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you throw out your back every now and then, and

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I'm not used to that kind of pain. I've always

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had a pretty strong back. Yeah, I do believe it's

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from the you get taught through cruelty and orchestra to

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sit up straight.

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I could see that, and I've heard friends say the

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same thing.

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Actually, well, they don't just yell at you to sit

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up straight. They also like teach you habits to help

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you sit up straight. Because I remember when we first

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doing this, started doing this podcast, and I would keep

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telling you to stop slouching. And then I realized that literally,

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anytime I sit anywhere, like right now, my back is

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perfectly straight. It's just I sit up straight. I just do.

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I mean, I'll you know, it's different if you're on

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a recliner or on a couch or something. But I mean,

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like if I sit down in a chair, set up straight. Yeah,

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you know, there's just there's just that's all there was

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to it. But so I was powering through it, like

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to the point where I was feeling it. Like I

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would go up the stairs and it would be I

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would be in so much pain. I was like feeling

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at my fingertips and like seeing spots. I don't recommend it,

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but not. But it's it's almost over because now I'm

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in the post production thing and this is one of

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the few breaks I get from it is to record

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the show. And but because of that, there's a reason

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I'm bringing this up. And it's not just a bitch,

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It's I have been trying to find ways to unwind

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because I've been on this intense post production and pre

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production schedule. Yeah where I mean, my days are twelve

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to fourteen hours. It's just average right now, So I

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need something to un so I started watching I've always

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had a soft spot for the nineties thrillers and weird

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just weird stuff from the nineties. Yes, and I will,

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But unlike you, I was watching a lot of them, yeah,

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as they were airing, which is the crazy thing.

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I had to find them via secondhand VHS's or back

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in the day when YouTube like was like Newish. I

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remember I found some on there too, well.

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Surprised because a lot of these aren't available anywhere. Yeah,

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but I started watching Old Joe Bob's Drive in episodes,

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which featured some of the weirdest late night cable movies

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I could ever find. And I've been what. I have

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a giant list of them, and what I've been doing

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is picking them based solely on title in year, nothing else,

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nothing else. Some of them I recognize, but most I

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do not, So I started writing down the ones I

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watch because I'm watching like four a week or five

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a week, depending, So I didn't I was like, I

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won't be able to bring these to you, but I

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made no other notes. There you go, because I don't

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believe in it, because I'm not some letterbox cock. You

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know what it is, letterbox cook. I remember that's my

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nexte y.

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It's not original. I've heard that before.

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Well I haven't, so I'm a changing.

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Well that's fair.

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So since I started writing these down, I've watched Liar's Edge,

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which features David Keith, and it's a thriller about a

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guy who a kid who's like sixteen seventeen years old,

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who basically they show him trying to escape a mental

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hospital and almost killing himself. Yeah, and then he ends

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up going home to his mom played by Shannon Tweedt,

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who takes her clothes off. Never very surprising for a

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nineties film. It was from Oh, I didn't write down

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the year on this one. I think it was ninety

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three or ninety two. But it turns out that the boyfriend,

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the stepdad, is some kind of a criminal. And then

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it turns out a woman's been murdered and nobody believes

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the son because he's a mental patient. Formerly it was

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pretty fun. It takes place in the Canadian side of

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Oh Gosh of Niagara Falls. So Madam Tussaude's wax museum

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is in it.

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That's awesome.

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Then the next night I watched Animal Instinct Instinct with

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Shannon Worry. For those who don't know who Shannon Worry is,

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she was the queen of erotic thrillers for a very

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long time. And this one. It was a thriller about

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a husband and wife who discovered that like, their favorite

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thing is him filming her having interludes yea with people,

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So she becomes basically a prostitute, but for him to

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film her in secret, like I mean, she knows and

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he knows, but the people that come in don't know yea.

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But it gets you know, crazy. David Carodine is in it,

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and nobody dies in it. It was very weird, and of

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all the ones I've watched so far, this one had

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the longest love scenes, like it was very drawn out,

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very much more on the erotic side than the thriller side.

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And not all these erotic thrillers the just they tend

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to be. Then I watched a movie I'd never heard

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of at all that I really enjoyed, called Dark Tide

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from nineteen ninety four and had I can't believe how

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much I'm remembering about them. I literally So what I

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do is the reason these are relaxing is I sit down.

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It's usually about midnight or one in the morning. Yeah,

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I put these on and once I choose it and

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hit play, it's not allowed to be skipped dumped, like

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there's no trash. You watch it all the way through,

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like all you have is this channel, Yeah to watch,

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and you know, I'll pause it to go to the bathroom,

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and I usually have a cigar and I watch whatever

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is coming my way. Dark Tide with Chris Sarandon. It's

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about a guy who's living in a well. It's the

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main character is his girlfriend in it, and she has

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come to be with her or his wife. They newlyweds. Yeah,

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and they're living on this island community where he's making

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crazy money by milking sea snakes and selling their venom

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for a ton of money. Interesting, and on the island

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everything's really cheap, so they get like five grand per

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per ounce of sea snake venoms. They're making stupid money.

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But she encounters, oh gosh, one of the locals. It's

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gonna drive me crazy. The actor who I, in my opinion,

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became forever known for Big Bad Wolf. I can't remember

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that guy's name, something Murphy. Maybe I can't believe you

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don't know that guy.

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I know I know Big Bad Wolf, but I can't

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see the name.

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You're very hurtful. It's a very hurtful thing you've done.

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Richard Tyson.

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Yep, I wouldn't. I would not have got that.

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You don't know Richard Tyson.

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I bet I do. I just probably don't know the name.

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Well.

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I mean, he's the star of Big Bad Wolf. He

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plays the dad.

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Oh that guy. Sorry, I know him from kindergarten cop.

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My apologies.

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I thought you liked movies, but I was mistaken. As usual,

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go to hell. But he ends up becoming obsessed with

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her and they try to like kill them, kill the husband.

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They do all this crazy stuff. But the third act

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goes from like this island kind of mystery thriller to

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just full blown straw dogs. These island guys, all run

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by Richard Tyson, want to break into their mansion and

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kill the husband and probably kill the woman too. But

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he's in love with her. But it's some psycho thing.

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There are a lot of weird flourishes in it. At

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one point, he takes her to the Caves of the Snake,

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which is like the island religious place, and introduced her

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to his aunt, and his aunt's like blind and looks

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like she's straight out of Evil Dead Two. Really weird movie,

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really fun, And when it ended, I just went, God, damn,

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how I not heard of that one? And of these

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Liar's Edge and Dark Tide, I couldn't. I don't think

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I could rent them anywhere. It's like they were not

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available at all. Animal Instinct was Then the next night

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I watched what was probably the most Oh and by

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the way, when I was watching Dark Tide, I'm almost

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certain I saw it on cable when I was younger,

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because I didn't remember big parts of it, but the

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whole part where they were setting everything up in getting

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snake venom and talking about it came, I really remembered it.

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So then I watched Night Rhythms from nineteen ninety two.

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That's a title.

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You can rent this one, it's out there. But this

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is like the quintessential erotic thriller. There's a radio host

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who he does a talk show where he just like

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gets women all hot and bothered, and.

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I think I've seen a little either I've seen bits

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and pieces of it or I've actually seen it.

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You would remember if you'd seen it.

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Carrodane's in this right. Yeah, He's in a lot of those, Okay.

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So basically it's the perfect example of an erotic thriller

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of that era, because there's this guy who's like kind

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of attractive and basically like his shoelace, comes uptide, trips

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and falls into having sex with two women at the

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same time. Like every scene, it's like, I have to

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figure out who killed this woman that I was sleeping

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with when I went unconscious and woke up and she

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was dead. So then he like goes, He's like, I

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have to find this person. He finds the witness, it's

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a beautiful woman. They sleep together. Then he goes to

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the next place. It's two beautiful memen. They sleep together.

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It's NonStop. It has a pretty good but obvious twist

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at the end, but it was very much that era.

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I love the director's name, Gregory Dark.

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He did a ton of them. He did Animal Instincts

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as well. And then See No Evil.

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Yeah, I was gonna say that's and also some breaking

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Benjamin videos is how I know him too well.

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So then last night I watched one that I would

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say was probably the biggest surprise. Okay, it was called

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Prey of the Chameleon. Pray like p r e y

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Pray of the Chameleon. This woman escapes from a mental

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hospital and she basically murders someone and takes their identity.

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But it turns out that what she does is she

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meets someone, makes them her next victim, and then believes

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she is them for a period of time. That's cool,

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but the way that she keeps that going is when

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she switches identities, she dresses the person that she just

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killed up as the person she was pretending to be,

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and bit and dumps their body.

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Doesn't angelies do that? A couple points, Yeah.

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That's more disguises. You're like a version of split personality.

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That's like really really nuts. So she's going across the

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country doing this, like dumping bodies and just totally transforming herself.

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Meets this guy who we met early on, who is

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from the small town in Texas. He went away, left

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his girlfriend. She was all mad. He comes back home.

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Now she's the chief or the sheriff of the deputy sheriff,

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and she ends up trying to be the only person

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who believes he's not going on this crime spree because

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he doesn't know that this woman's a psycho. And then

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she steals his identity briefly, it goes really crazy. It's

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really fun. I don't think that one's available anywhere, Okay.

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And it starred an actress that you would that has

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been in a ton of stuff And now I'm trying

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to remember. Her name was Daphney Zunga.

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Oh, the chick from She's in Spaceball, She's in the.

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Initiation, Zuniga Yea. She plays the psycho the chameleons. Sh

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She's really really good. It's it's a good one. And

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one thing I've learned because I grew up watching Monster Vision,

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not Joe Bob's driving. Joe Bob opens and he'll tell

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you if it's a bad movie, he'll tell you, like

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there were a couple I watched. None of these that

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I when I started listening, But he was like, this

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is just a bad film. You literally say, like, if

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you have something else to be doing, do it, you know,

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why not go do a load of laundry? Come back

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at the end, like you could say stuff like that

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that sounds like something'd say, but but when it was good,

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he would say, like, this is a really good one.

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You'll you'll like it. And usually when he says that,

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I'm always shocked by how good it is. Yeah, these,

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and especially because most of these are like severely unknown.

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That's awesome. Oh yeah, she's indormed. That your blood. She's

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I think, like the first body. I think so because

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she's the one that gets put into the incinerator. If

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I'm not mistaken or she's machines murdered. I can't remember

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whish Yeah.

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I thought it'd be fun. I started writing them down

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so I wouldn't. I'm surprised how much I remember about them,

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although I'm not.

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At the same time, I also dove into a Ron

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thriller because I've been doing those skin Max DVDs that

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I got on my birthday from MBD put out a

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bunch of them, so there's like twenty titles. But the

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one I watched was Snapdragon from nineteen ninety two, Pam

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Anderson's film debut. Wow, one thing I want to say,

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So that's ANOPS on IMDb says two men have already

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been killed during intercourse by a prostitute. The young Sergeant

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Peckham is transferred from vice to homicide squad for the investigation. Basically,

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the story is that there's somebody that's slitting guy's throats

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and they're usually with this last call girl like before

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their death. Okay, and well, the opening of this film

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could not believe this. First five minutes of this film,

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we see a girl who's supposed to be young Pam

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Anderson in a tent sleeping with her parents. These people

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break in, kill her parents right in front of her,

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kidnap her, sell her into Chinese sex slavery. She is

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then being shown getting tattooed by a woman who says

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you're going to be the best ever. And then it

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goes into this celebration parade and over the credits with Snapdragon.

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Anything memorable in it though, So movie's fine, Like it's okay,

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it's not bad. I've seen a lot worse. I've seen

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a lot better. My favorite thing is Stephen Bauer is

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one of the actors in this He is a scarface

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to Tony Montana's main partner in Scarface, and he plays

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the main detective. At the very beginning, his girlfriend's Chelsea

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Field in the movie and they're in bed and she

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gives him a hickey and he goes, oh my god,

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he gave me a hickey. Now I'm gonna have to

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wear sweaters the whole week. From that moment on, anytime

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he's in this movie, he is rocking a new sweater.

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I bet you there was a reason he committed to

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the bit, That's all I'm saying. I'm saying, or like

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they shot most of it when it was cold or something. Yeah, though,

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but it was I was like, I took note of that,

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and I was just like, oh my god, he's in

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a different sweater every time you see him, basically after

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Guy's got style.

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So sweater game's strong.

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But I'm so I've been. It's been a very amusing thing,

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and it's been shockingly it's been a really like it's

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been really fun to wholly dedicate, even when the movies

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are bad. And I watched a couple of dogs and

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even like Animal Instinct, it got kind of boring. Although

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Shannon Worry is an incredible actress and she's and she's

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like she was built for these movies. She's literally got

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girl next door face and an insanely like full blown

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Penthouse pet body, I mean like nineties like just ridiculous body,

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you know, tiny body, big, big waist, big breast, like

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completely like built for this. And apparently she was in

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like fifty of these was she was very very well

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cast over and over. And there are two more Animal

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Instinct movies, of course there are. I also watched one

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I honorable mention called Hollywood Dreams, which was a comedy

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about guys making a sleazy movie, a sleezy like a

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raunchy comedy, and everybody's just banging each other the whole

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way through it. But it had a really cute ending.

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And I think that was directed by Greg greed Tark

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two actually, but I wouldn't be shocked, but that one

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was really cute. I thought that was really fun because

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it ends with the lead actress of the movie, who

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wasn't very good, I mean in the actual movie wasn't

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very good and in the movie in the movie she

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wasn't very good, running away with the assistant director guy

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and they decide they're going to go back to Boise,

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where she's from, and her brother works at a radio station,

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and this guy's dream is to be a DJ. She's like,

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who knows what we could make happen if we go

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after our own dreams instead of making everybody else's dreams

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come true. And I was like, that's a sweet ending.

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It is. So.

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The other one I watched was Bare Exposure, which was

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basically about a guy that was in deep with some

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loan sharks and he was friends with all these females

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and they were trying to get a new roommate because

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the roommate females. The roommate comes home and she's catches

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the other roommate having sex and she's like, you're always

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having sex. I'm moving out, and like that was basically

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what happened. But the rest of the movie was them

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trying to put on a wet T shirt show like

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contest show to earn the money to get him away

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from the loan sharks, of course, and then they did.

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It was a happy ending.

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These these are fascinating, so but yeah, it was. It was.

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It's been nice to just sit down and have to

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watch it. I put my phone away. Yeah, I occasionally

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I get tempted to just for a second see like

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who the director is and stuff, because I love to

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know that stuff. But overall have just been watching these

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like movies that are either painfully dumb or shockingly good, Like,

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I can see why they were successful.

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On Joe Bob hosting them. He starts it and he

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ends it. You're watching the whole movie straight way through.

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There's no him interrupting right now.

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No, No, He's like, and I'll be back afterward, and

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sometimes he doesn't come back afterward. So, but then the

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other thing I want to mention was when he showed

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Prey of the Chameleon his outro, he actually said, like,

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and that was the the cable premiere of it. So

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it was actually the first time I ever aired at

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like eleven o'clock at night. Yeah, on the movie channel.

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You said he'd showed like one hundred and sixty episodes

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of that or.

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What it was probably more, Okay, he would he would

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sometimes host three in a night, Yeah, starting at like

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I think he started at like ten pm, so.

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There'd be a lot of them.

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Yeah, So I'm I'm gonna dig more and I'll I'm

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sure everybody's riveted to know about these movies that nobody

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cares about, but I care about them.

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Yeah, I got eighteen more to go, and I'm watching

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them in the order they were released. So I have

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to jump around a lot.

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I bet. Yeah, I'm mostly leaning towards anything nineties. Yeah,

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and there's also I mean I have there's action movies.

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There's all kinds of stuff, and like Dark Tide, I

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had no idea what I was what I was walking into,

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and it's kind of it's it's pretty much an erotic thriller.

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But say the next one is illicit Behavior? Is my

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next one? Oh yeah? Yeah?

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Well Tweet was like the queen of those and I

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always forgot her sister is in these we do because

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I forget her her sister's name, but she's in in

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Night Rhythms Tracy Tracy Tweed Twyty Tracy Twacy Tweet Twetwacy Tweed,

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But she was in Night Rhythms because when I saw her,

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I was like, why did she look so familiar? And

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I looked I was like Tweed and I looked up.

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They have like because they did like a photo spread together. Yeah,

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so oh yeah, but uh, anyway, so stupid stupid movies

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that I that I love. There's something There's nothing I

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like more than something that's forgotten or meant to be forgotten. Yeah,

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when things are because it's like when you look at

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Roger Korman's career, like Little Shop of Horrors. Everybody remembers

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the Little Shop of Horrors. Everybody's fond of it. They

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didn't even bother renewing the copyright on it because they

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were like, well, it's done. It played for like two

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months at the drive ins and then it played you know,

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over here and over there. That's it. Yeah, and everyone

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you know recalls it. Like So, I'm fascinated by these,

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especially when they're just not available anywhere. And most of them,

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i mean, nowadays, most of them are.

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Somewhere somewhat available.

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Yeah, but then you'll find one where it'll be like, oh,

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it's just there's just a VHS. Oh that's it.

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Well, I mean following fred Fred Olinray on Facebook, I

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mean he's been posting a lot of his movies that

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I've been going after since reading his book, and yeah,

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a lot of those are just not available.

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They're they're hard to get, and he hasn't. I mean,

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the later the late nineties was really crazy and he

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was making so many films and I'm dying to read

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that part of his book because he's doing one that

457
00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:57.039
focuses more on the nineties in the two thousand.

458
00:21:57.079 --> 00:21:57.680
I can't wait.

459
00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:02.640
So but with that all being said, we're doing summer films. Yes,

460
00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:06.799
Life's a beach, Life's a beach month. And I because

461
00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:09.319
you chose that theme, I think you are to blame

462
00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:09.960
for the heat wave.

463
00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:10.680
I mean that's fair.

464
00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:11.599
I think that's only fair.

465
00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:14.279
That's fair freaking what is it ninety four degrees outside

466
00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:14.559
right now?

467
00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:16.440
I don't know about right now, but it was ninety

468
00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:17.640
four degrees was the high today?

469
00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:18.960
It was ninety seven when I was driving here.

470
00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:21.640
According to my car, cars are always hotter though, because

471
00:22:21.640 --> 00:22:24.880
they're in the middle of the sun. And so, but like, yeah,

472
00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:29.200
it's been. It's been. To immortalize the words of my

473
00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:31.960
great aunt Betty, it's hotter than two foxes fucking in

474
00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:32.920
a forest fire out there.

475
00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:34.039
Yeah, that's a good way to put that.

476
00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:38.039
So yeah, so and it is. It's real hot. That's

477
00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:39.680
one thing I am happy about is even with all

478
00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:41.839
the pain. When I was filming, we filmed the whole

479
00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.160
day in an air conditioned mansion. Yeah, very well air

480
00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:47.319
conditioned mansion. That's why I knew the pain was what

481
00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:48.559
was making me sweat, because I was like, it was

482
00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:49.799
actually kind of chilly, because.

483
00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:52.400
Calamity Jane was the hottest we shot in, right, because

484
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:54.039
that was the one I remember where we were very

485
00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:55.279
very careful prolonged.

486
00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:58.880
Yeah, because the other Western Jesse, James Unchained, was also

487
00:22:59.000 --> 00:22:59.640
really really hot.

488
00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:00.400
Yeah.

489
00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:02.559
And uh, but no with Jane, I mean we we

490
00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:06.079
had cold packs, cold we had cold uh their rags

491
00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:08.480
basically to put on your neck, and tons of water.

492
00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.519
And but of course the people on the cowboy costumes,

493
00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:13.640
they can't use that stuff. They just got to figure

494
00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:18.680
it out in theory. But but no, So it's yeah,

495
00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:21.960
it's definitely, it's definitely feeling summer now. It is indeed,

496
00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.079
as we're melting. Yes, I'm excited for this heat wave

497
00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:25.519
to end.

498
00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:27.799
Me to so me too.

499
00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:30.720
Well, your apartment gets pretty warm, right.

500
00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:33.480
Gets pretty warm. And from what I looked at, we're

501
00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:36.960
basically going from extreme heat to extreme wetness because it's

502
00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:38.680
going to be raining for like four days straight for

503
00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:39.519
what they're calling right now.

504
00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:44.799
Well, we had two weeks of basically rain almost every day.

505
00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:46.519
And now the grass is probably going to like die

506
00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:49.799
a lot, because I hope with all of this and

507
00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:52.119
then the rain, so I hope.

508
00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:56.039
So, I mean I mowed the lawn last Thursday because

509
00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:58.920
it was finally dry enough and it was a jungle.

510
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:01.279
I mean, I was really hard to mow it all.

511
00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:04.000
So I'm hoping the grass isn't growing very much because

512
00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:06.400
right now it's very dry. And they were saying it

513
00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:08.400
might rain today at one point, and now they're saying

514
00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:11.279
it might rain tomorrow. I'm thinking it might not rain

515
00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:12.400
till like the start of next week.

516
00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:14.319
I know the heat advisory is supposed to be up

517
00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:16.839
tomorrow at eight, so at least we're going to go

518
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:20.279
down to like eighty six. I think is like the high.

519
00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:24.640
Oh you hope, you wish, you wish, But.

520
00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:27.039
I mean we could cool off and talk about a great,

521
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:29.400
great sequel that you and I have an affinity for.

522
00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:33.720
I mean I wouldn't say affinity. I would say love affair.

523
00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:34.039
Love affair.

524
00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:38.119
I I love. Oh. I decided to check the weather

525
00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:39.839
right now. It says feels like one hundred degrees.

526
00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:40.799
Yeah, I can see that.

527
00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:41.920
No.

528
00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:45.240
I freaking love this film. Yeah, and I believe it

529
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:47.720
is the one true great Jaws film.

530
00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:49.640
I think we did both agree before we went on

531
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:51.319
here that it is better than Jaws three.

532
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:54.000
I just revisited Jaws.

533
00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:56.200
Three and three d and not in three D, but

534
00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:57.000
I revisited it.

535
00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:03.400
They're not the I'm not going below the nineties till Saturday. Yeah,

536
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.039
and then we'll be back to ninety on Sunday.

537
00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:07.559
Well, let's cool off then and talk about Jaws the

538
00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:09.920
Revenge from nineteen eighty.

539
00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:15.799
Seven, probably my most notorious hot take. Yeah, because I

540
00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:20.319
sincerely I have nothing against Jaws, but I do not

541
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:24.599
find the original Jaws movie as memorable as Jaws The Revenge.

542
00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:25.319
Be wrong.

543
00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:32.240
Jaws the Revenge is so unmitigatedly entertaining it is. There

544
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:37.720
is something to enjoy in every frame of that wackad movie.

545
00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:40.640
And after rewatching three which I think we'd all agree

546
00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:42.880
is not a great film on its own.

547
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:46.480
Lacks It lacks any big major points that would push

548
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.160
it to memorable likeness except for the ending.

549
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:51.359
After watching it, I felt like it comes off kind

550
00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:53.720
of cynical. It's just kind of like, here's a Jaws movie.

551
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:57.039
It takes place at a SeaWorld. Yeah, and that could

552
00:25:57.079 --> 00:25:58.720
be a lot cooler. And they had a great cast,

553
00:25:58.759 --> 00:25:59.720
to be Lea Tanis.

554
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:01.599
Had a great cast, but like, also, a lot of

555
00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:03.720
the kills are off screen, if not all of them,

556
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:05.319
and there aren't a lot of them. No, No, there's

557
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:07.440
like four or five. I want to say, because like

558
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:09.359
the one I really want is the two guys that

559
00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:11.200
are going after the coral. I think that would be

560
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:11.759
a cool.

561
00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:13.599
So the Russian guys who are stealing stuff.

562
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:15.240
Yeah, I would think that'd be a cool scene. But

563
00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.160
we just see the boat get basically deflated and then

564
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:19.880
the guys come down there to go down. They don't

565
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:20.400
come back up.

566
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:23.720
Yeah, And I mean there's stuff to like in Jaws three.

567
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:27.480
I think a lot of the weird, like the underwater

568
00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:31.079
buildings and stuff are kind of cheesy because like they're

569
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:31.880
not really a thing.

570
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:34.480
They're not great. Yeah. I would also say that you

571
00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:36.640
and I are probably split on Jaws two because you

572
00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:39.039
revisited a while back and you weren't the biggest fan

573
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:39.319
of it.

574
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:41.759
You thought it was fine, that's fun. It's a fun

575
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:42.680
follow up to Jaws.

576
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:43.599
I think it's a lot of fun.

577
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:46.160
But I mean, and I think Jaws is good. I

578
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:51.640
think I think that Jaws is a pretty standard a

579
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:56.799
pretty standard thriller, elevated by the performances in the directing. Yeah,

580
00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:00.519
but I think that the script itself is relatively standard. Yeah,

581
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:02.839
and that's not a dig. No, I mean that's celebrating

582
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:05.920
the fact that I mean, like Quint's speech is amazing,

583
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.960
it's amazing. I mean, there's tons of wonderful things about Jaws,

584
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.240
but a lot of them really do come down to

585
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:13.640
those actors and Spielberg.

586
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:16.079
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. And also the fact that,

587
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:18.240
I mean everybody knows by now that like the Shark

588
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:20.759
was the biggest complication with that movie because they had

589
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:22.839
to shoot around the fact it wouldn't work half the time,

590
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:25.519
if not, I would say probably three fourths of the time,

591
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:27.640
because they only really got it working towards the end.

592
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.240
Because that's why it's a lot different than what it

593
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.839
was originally supposed to be, with how we saw the Shark.

594
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.359
Having to lean into suspense, which helped it a ton immensely,

595
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.519
And that's kind of that's kind of my point is

596
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.000
that's why Jaws the Revenge is so great.

597
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:44.119
There's shark work.

598
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:47.359
God damn it, it did, it did indeed, But no,

599
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.759
there's just there's everything about Jaws the Revenge is so

600
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:56.400
far out. Yeah, so such a strange situation.

601
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.240
It's an odd story. Also, I mean, given you know,

602
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.519
they completely ignore the three entirely so we basically go

603
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.720
from Jaws one Jaws two to Jaws the Revenge in

604
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.359
the story element, but it's such an odd story that

605
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.119
they chose to go with this fourth one, and the

606
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:14.920
novel is even more whacked. Well, it's the novelization, yes, yeah,

607
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:17.440
I believe. I can't remember if it came first or

608
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:18.240
if it Yeah, it.

609
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:20.559
Didn't come first, I don't know. But no, but because

610
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:25.400
the back then novelizations were made on the first accepted screen. Yeah,

611
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:27.359
so all of the stuff they cut out of Jaws

612
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:29.599
the Revenge is still in the novel.

613
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.920
Yeah. I just finished the Batman nineteen eighty nine novelization,

614
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.680
and there was a whole uh you remember the scene

615
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:39.319
when he a joker, goes to Vicky's apartment and harasses her,

616
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:42.720
shoots Bruce, and then leaves. Originally in the novel, he

617
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:46.240
kidnaps her. Batman gets on a horseback and chases him

618
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:48.000
to the center of the square where they're getting set

619
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.640
up for the two hunterd festival. He takes the mayor hostage,

620
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:52.359
and I can't remember how he gets the feed, but

621
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:53.640
he gets defeated and they'd run off.

622
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.759
Well, okay, okay, then.

623
00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:59.839
It was interesting that novelization was interesting.

624
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:02.160
Sounds like it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know,

625
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:04.960
it's a ridiculous movie too. Oh yeah, that's that's pretty

626
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:05.359
far out.

627
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:07.799
Craigshaw Gardner was the writer, and he also wrote the

628
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.079
Lost Boys novelization, along with like several other big novelizations

629
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:12.799
like Back of the Future and the One thing I'll

630
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.240
say about having read some of his now, he's very

631
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.359
big on the action sequences of the film itself. As

632
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:20.400
far as description, there's not much, because I mean, that's

633
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.400
what I love about novelizations, is that extra detail and whatnot.

634
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:26.839
There was only like three added scenes in the novelization

635
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:28.400
for the Batman book.

636
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:32.759
M because I mean, usually a movie isn't as dense

637
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:35.519
as most novels would be, so well, you have to

638
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:39.000
use every piece of material, yeah, and then also add

639
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:41.559
a little bit more, yeah, add a lot more detail.

640
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:44.240
One of my favorite novelizations I ever read was the

641
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:46.759
original Reanimator novelization.

642
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.839
Which just became available again like two years ago, yeah,

643
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:50.559
two three years.

644
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:53.920
But it had like so much more about doctor West

645
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.960
and where he was before he got to Miskatonic, Yeah,

646
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.519
and stuff like that. Another novelization I really enjoyed was

647
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.079
thirteenth Part six. Obviously there was a lot going on

648
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:05.160
in that novelization that wasn't in the film.

649
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:07.240
Halloween three has an amazing novelization.

650
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:09.400
I'd be very curious about that. I mean, and I

651
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:11.400
don't doubt that it has one, because that was the

652
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.160
era of novelizations were always happening.

653
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:16.240
Well, I've read, so, I've read the first three Halloweens,

654
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.920
and the first one alone opens with soloin happening and

655
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.039
like a description of all that that Loomis would say

656
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.160
in part two. But then the novelization for part two

657
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:27.680
also has a explanation for why the hospital is so barren,

658
00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:29.839
and also has the death of the reporter that was

659
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:30.680
cut out of the movie.

660
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:35.880
Hmm. Yeah, okay, So with that all being said, speaking

661
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:40.240
of great works of art, indeed, I know that a

662
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.839
lot of people have a lot of opinions about Jaws

663
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:46.799
the Revenge, just some, and they're wrong because Jaws the

664
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:53.839
Revenge is non stop entertainment value. Yeah, because every choice,

665
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:57.440
the weirder they are, the more amusing they are. And

666
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:02.000
for a film that should be this cynical to have

667
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:05.160
like Michael Caine in it, to have like to have

668
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:07.680
Mario van peebles in it. To have all these great

669
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.680
actors who are clearly game like they're trying, like when

670
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.119
we were just rewatching it, like Michael Kaine's romance scenes,

671
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:15.319
he's going all in on them.

672
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:16.920
You know, he's trying.

673
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:19.200
To to be legitimate because he's one of the greatest

674
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:22.559
actors you know, to ever live. It is a hell of.

675
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:24.279
A thing, it really, it really is.

676
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:29.039
So if you think Jaws the Revenge sucks, I beg

677
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:33.240
of you to reconsider how you watch movies, how you

678
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.799
view it, well, how you view anything, because Jaws the

679
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:40.400
Revenge is such a mess. But I don't believe it's

680
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.960
a mess from lack of care. It's a mess from

681
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:49.559
a combination of bizarre choices, yes, and studio intervention a

682
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:54.279
lot combined with said bizarre choices, and a lot of

683
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:57.880
the bizarre choices being removed. That's another thing, because like

684
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.599
the voodoo subplot is gone gone, You heard me, right.

685
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:03.759
But I'll talk all about the novel. Don't worry.

686
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:06.640
There are little elements of the voodoo subplot throughout all

687
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.319
of Jaws the Revenge. Oh yeah, so they make some

688
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:11.200
things just make almost.

689
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:11.759
No sense sense.

690
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:14.880
Yeah, but that also makes the movie even weirder. Yeah,

691
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.200
like this weird telepathic connection between the shark and the victims.

692
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.960
Not only that, not only the telepathy, but also they

693
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.559
really hone in on nightmares in this movie more than

694
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:29.799
any other Jaws film. Yeah, and some of those primarily

695
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:30.440
for the scares.

696
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:34.079
Definitely well, and like the way some of the effects

697
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.000
and stuff are done so messily makes me think that

698
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:39.279
there was a version of this movie that was done

699
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.559
with care. Could be that the studio is like, uh,

700
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.480
there's not enough bite. Yeah, if you will, and I

701
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:50.480
will and you did. So that's one of the things

702
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.559
that also fascinates me about the movie is they'll be like,

703
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.279
on one hand, it's like, oh, it's a quick cash grab,

704
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:56.440
but also we spent out the ass for Michael Kane.

705
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.559
They spent out the ass for oh, what's the actress's name,

706
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:02.960
Long Gary, Lorraine Gary, who was in the first Jaws movie.

707
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.599
I think she was in two Seconds. She's the wife

708
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:08.960
of Roychider's character in it. So like they spent out

709
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:10.000
the butt for that stuff.

710
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:10.799
Oh yeah.

711
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:15.200
Also they said it in the Bahamas, which one of

712
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:18.119
the big differences between modern shark movies and Jaws is

713
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:21.440
modern shark movies are almost always in the tropics. Yeah,

714
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.759
they're in much prettier places than I'm sorry, New York

715
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:28.000
and New Jersey. However you want to look at it.

716
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.160
So in a way, it's kind of a precursor to

717
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:33.079
all these shark movies that were gonna come along in

718
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:36.119
the nineties, the late nineties, especially in the early two thousands. Yeah,

719
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:39.680
that were almost always set in island community.

720
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:40.039
Yeah.

721
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:42.440
And it's funny because I remember somebody saying, like, man,

722
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.359
shark movies, you know, they must be really you know

723
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:47.319
this or that, that's why so many people are making them.

724
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.640
And I was like, it's also really easy to sell them,

725
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.079
like and we'll all go to Hawaii for two weeks.

726
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.720
Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty easy cell at that point,

727
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:55.799
it is. Yeah.

728
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.119
So but yeah, so Dave, you want to you want

729
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:02.400
to introduce people to our film dejore.

730
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.519
All right, so we dedicate this this episode to our

731
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:06.079
buddy Patrick. Of course, let's go ahead and just get

732
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:08.159
that out of the way. Patrick, This one's for you, Homie.

733
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:12.639
One hour and thirty minutes, rated, PG. Thirteen for shark attacks,

734
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:14.559
language and brief sensuality.

735
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:19.800
Nothing is more sensual than metalworking.

736
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:24.159
Metal working I'm synopsis says Chief Brody's widow believes that

737
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.159
her family is deliberately being targeted by another shark in

738
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:28.159
search of revenge.

739
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:32.920
I mean that's as correct as anything. I suppose my synopsis.

740
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:34.840
When her son is killed by a shark in amity,

741
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.360
Ellen Brody travels to the Bahamas, unaware that a shark

742
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.039
has followed them in search of vengeance.

743
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.199
That's a better one. I give you that one, a

744
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:41.960
y I'll tell them.

745
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:48.199
Taglines this episode include this time it's personal, which the

746
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:49.000
big one.

747
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:53.000
Became a meme before there were memes. Yeah, the idea.

748
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:55.559
This time it's personal. Yep, it's a shark.

749
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:01.719
I love that. Oh it's great. On Friday, June seventeenth,

750
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:03.920
Man's deepest fear will rise again.

751
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:06.199
I like that deepest fear.

752
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.440
And then Man's deepest fear has risen again.

753
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:12.840
Okay, those are basically the same path.

754
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:16.880
Jaws of Revenge currently available as we record this to

755
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:19.199
stream on Peacock. You can also rent it via Prime

756
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.880
in van Dango as well. Peacock does have all four

757
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:23.920
Jaws films at this time, so if you are looking

758
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:25.679
to binge them, that is the place to go.

759
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.639
And we just very recently celebrated the first Jaws's fiftifieth anniversary.

760
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.639
Yes we did. Director on the film is Joseph Sargent.

761
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:36.119
He gets his start actually as an actor in nineteen

762
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:38.639
fifty one with her first Romance. Goes on to be

763
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.920
in I Am the Law From Here to Eternity. I

764
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:44.199
Led Three Lives, Doctor Hudson's Secret Journal, The Lone Ranger,

765
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:48.320
State Trooper, Pied Piper of Hamlin, Gray Ghost, Navy log

766
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.920
Sheriff of co Cheese, Tales of Wells Fargo, The Detective Torbach,

767
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.320
Carolyn Ivory Hunters. It's not until nineteen fifty nine, though,

768
00:35:56.320 --> 00:36:00.559
that he does his first directing on Street Fighter Street

769
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:03.679
Fighter not the Sunny chiev onety nine early so. Then

770
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:05.920
he goes on to shoot Lassie in sixty four, also

771
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:09.800
shoots an episode of Bonanza Kentucky Jones Mister Novak Gun

772
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.400
Smoke the Wackiest Ship in the Army in nineteen sixty five.

773
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:14.719
Then he goes on to shoot One Spy Too Many

774
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:18.440
episodes of The Fugitive Girl from Uncle, episodes of Star Trek,

775
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.760
episodes of the Man from Uncle, FBI Spy in the

776
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.559
Green Hat Hell with Heroes. It takes a Thief in

777
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:28.639
nineteen seventy The Tribe, Longstreet, Man on a String, Buckin

778
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.440
the Preacher, The Man, The Man Who Died Twice. Then

779
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:34.760
in nineteen seventy three he shoots what is probably one

780
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.960
of the best known exploitation films, White Lightning. Really he

781
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:41.840
is the director of White Lightning. Okay, now we're cooking,

782
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:44.239
so then he goes on to shoot Sunshine in seventy three,

783
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.880
Taking of Pelham one two three in nineteen seventy four,

784
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:50.280
goes on to shoot Hustling, The Knight That Panicked America,

785
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:55.000
MacArthur Amber Waves, Playing for Time, Coast to Coast Freedom.

786
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:57.840
Then in nineteen eighty three he shoots an anthology film

787
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:02.960
entitled Nightmares The Bishop of Battle with Emeliu Estevez. He

788
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:07.280
directed that goddamn Okay, goes on to shoot Memorial Day

789
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.840
in eighty three, Choices of the Heart Space, Passionflower, There

790
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:13.199
Must Be a Pony in eighty six, of Pure Blood

791
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.880
in eighty six, then in eighty seven Jaws The Revenge.

792
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.000
He then basically goes on to work for TV that

793
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:21.960
moment on for a CBS Summer Playhouse Day one Caroline

794
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:26.840
Ivory Hunters Never Forget Somebody's Daughter, Skylark, My Antonio Streets, Laredo,

795
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:31.360
The Wall, Crime and Punishment, A lesson before dying, Bojangles, Salem,

796
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:33.280
Witch Trials in two thousand and two, the TV movie

797
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.840
Okay Ye, then he goes on to do Warm Springs,

798
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.039
Sybil and Sweet Nothing in My Ear.

799
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:40.440
Wow. Yeah, so he worked a lot.

800
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.360
He definitely you know, he definitely had I mean, White

801
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.519
Lightning is a movie that I grew up on. My

802
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:48.000
dad loves Burt Reynolds, so White Lightning, the Longest Yard.

803
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:50.440
I grew up with those movies. So the fact that

804
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.480
he did that and did put that together, until I

805
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:53.960
was watching this, I was like, holy shit.

806
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:59.039
I mean it sounds like they hired a you know,

807
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:01.079
they brought in a guy had a ton of experience,

808
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:03.079
but by bringing in a guy who had done a

809
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:06.119
lot of TV, they wanted somebody who was disciplined. Yeah,

810
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:09.119
because that's the big thing on TV. You keep your schedule,

811
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:10.239
you keep your budget. Yeah.

812
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.199
We did, unfortunately, lose him back in twenty fourteen, December

813
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:16.960
twenty second, he passed from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. It

814
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:20.719
does not give his age unfortunately. Really yeah, wow, I

815
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:22.800
could put it together. Oh eighty nine. There we go.

816
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.440
Oh wow, yeah, okay, yeah, he was eighty nine wheny passed.

817
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.440
I mean that's you know, if there's any argument for

818
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.119
there being a god, it's like God was, like, you

819
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:33.159
gave us Jaws of the Revenge? Can you can stick

820
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:34.719
around as long as we can stand.

821
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:37.440
One of the writers on the film is Peter Eventule.

822
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.239
He gets a character credit, of course, but he gets

823
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:41.559
to start writing the novel of Jaws in nineteen seventy five,

824
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.280
where he also does the screenplay, does the novel and

825
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.840
screenplay for The Deep in seventy seven, character credit for

826
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:49.519
Jaws two and seventy eight The Island in nineteen eighty.

827
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:50.599
I was gonna ask you about this. Have you ever

828
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.559
seen The Island with Michael Caine and David Warner.

829
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.400
That's not the body farming one, right, No, this is the.

830
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:57.519
One where Michael Kane and his son are on an

831
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.159
expedition on the sea and they end up coming across

832
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:03.920
modern pirates ran by David Warner. No, and David Warner

833
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:05.719
kind of Captain Hook's the kid, trying to make him

834
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:07.559
his apprentice and whatnot in turn him against his father.

835
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:08.719
That sounds pretty cool.

836
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:10.239
It's a pretty sweet movie. I haven't seen it in

837
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:11.639
a bit. I would love to revisit it. But yeah,

838
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:13.519
does that in nineteen eighty does the novel and screenplay

839
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.360
for that, gets character credit for Jaws three D and

840
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:18.719
eighty three, Jaws The Revenge in eighty seven gets character credit.

841
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:21.199
Then he goes on to write Dolphin Cove the Beast

842
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:24.039
in nineteen ninety six, Creature in ninety eight, which is

843
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:26.400
a movie I remember because my mom showed me the

844
00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:30.039
TV Guide ad for it, which was like a Jaws

845
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.000
creature with like the arm coming through the porthole of

846
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:36.159
a ship. Pretty badass. Okay, So he does that ninety eight,

847
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.119
Then he does Amazon, which he's the creator of, in

848
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:40.519
ninety nine, and then we unfortunately lost him back in

849
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:43.639
two thousand and six, February eleventh, at sixty five from

850
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:45.880
an idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis.

851
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:46.320
Jeez.

852
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.239
Yeah, but benually, I do want to say something in

853
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.960
regards to you. Watch the Sharks Flotation documentary that shuttered

854
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:53.840
it right, Yeah, so you saw all this stuff about

855
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:57.079
how Peter Benchley writing Jaws made him a huge activist

856
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.320
for the ocean and sharks and everything. Very cool guy,

857
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:01.840
and it would not have been done had he not

858
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:04.119
written that novel and then actually realized how sharks are

859
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:06.880
completely different from what he actually put on the page's

860
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:07.480
and screen.

861
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:13.760
So he was like, Oppenheimer, cool, and we'll stick with

862
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:17.559
that Wright. Oppenheimer was like, we gotta regulate atomic power,

863
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:22.880
we gotta regulate atomic weapons. I am become death, Destroyer

864
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:23.960
of worlds our.

865
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:27.440
Other writer on the film is Michael de Guzben. He

866
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:29.480
gets his start as a writer in seventy five on

867
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:31.920
Rock and Magic Fun Show. Then he goes on to

868
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:33.639
do a Stranger's story of a mother and daughter in

869
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:37.039
seventy nine, Active Love in nineteen eighty, Thornwall, Winter of

870
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:41.000
Our Discontent As Summers Die, Amazing Stories in eighty six,

871
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:43.840
We Are the Children in eighty seven. Then he also

872
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:46.719
writes to Jaws The Revenge, followed by Red Earth, White Earth,

873
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.159
Carolyn Babe, Ruth to My Daughter with Love, Redwood Curtain,

874
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.719
Hidden in America, Angel of Pennsylvania, Avenue, Lost, Treasure of

875
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:57.199
Dos Santos, and King and Queen of Moonlight Bay in

876
00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:58.039
two thousand and three.

877
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.199
So he worked on amazing stories. That means he worked

878
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:04.960
in some way, Yeah, with Spielberg.

879
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.639
Silberg yeah, and mcgarrison a bunch of other people.

880
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:11.239
Well, but Spielberg, that was Jaws. But I'm just saying, like,

881
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:13.880
because you mentioned the director directed something with Michael Kin

882
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.519
and David Warner. Yeah, and so Michael Kaine that might

883
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:19.320
have helped bring Michael Kine on board.

884
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:21.519
Or no, Peter Benchley he wrote he wrote a novel.

885
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.760
Sorry, sorry, that's oh well, then never mind.

886
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:28.400
Our cinematographer on the film is Josh McPherson. He gets

887
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.239
to start as a DP in seventy seven on The

888
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:33.239
Incredible Hulk, goes on to shoot for Kojak Bride of

889
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:36.280
The Incredible Hulk, The Archer, Dark Room, the series from

890
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.960
eighty one Okay, yeah, yeah, then goes on Tod You Senior,

891
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:43.679
Trip eleanor Firs eleanor First Lady of the World, Voyagers,

892
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:47.679
Voyager from the Unknown, Saint Elsewhere, Powers of Matthew Starr

893
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:50.800
V in eighty three ah V. Then goes on to

894
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.920
do Trauma Center, Legman A Reason to Live. Then in

895
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.199
nineteen eighty five he shoots Just One of the.

896
00:41:56.159 --> 00:42:00.320
Guys, finally a real motion picture.

897
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.199
Then goes on to shoot Hot Pursuit, Shadow Chasers, Acceptable

898
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:05.920
Risk Shoots, Episodes of Amazing Stories in eighty six, then

899
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:07.800
goes on to shoot Jaws The Revenge in eighty seven.

900
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:11.760
Then same year shoots Batteries Not Included, Oh No Shit,

901
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:14.599
follows that up in nineteen eighty eight with Short Circuit two.

902
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:18.840
Ah, Los Lobos kick your ass, Los Lobos kick your face,

903
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.480
Los Lobos kick your balls into out air space.

904
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.760
Also after that directs Fletch Lives another sequel okay, then

905
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.559
then goes on to shoot Baywatch, Panic at Malibu, pir

906
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:35.000
The Littlest Victims, Yabba Dabadoo Celebration, Alien Nation both the

907
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.199
pilot and the film really.

908
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:39.119
Mm hmm, okay, I Love Alien Nation.

909
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:41.599
Bingo in nineteen ninety one. Also in this time he's

910
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.679
also directed episodes of The Incredible Hulk Dark Room Alien

911
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:49.079
Nation Strays in nineteen ninety one, the TV movie. Then

912
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.760
goes on to shoot Dirty Work, not that one, Fade

913
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.639
to Black, not that one, Swamp Thing series in nineteen ninety,

914
00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:00.440
What What, the Untouchable series in ninety four, Okay, Incident

915
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:03.119
at Deception Ridge in ninety four, The Watcher in ninety five,

916
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:07.840
Extreme Strange Luck, episodes of Jag, episodes of Sliders, Babylon five,

917
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:10.519
Nash Bridges, Beverly Hills, nine oh two, one oh and

918
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:13.039
even seven days in two thousand and one. We unfortunately

919
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.480
lost him back in two thousand and seven, December twenty first,

920
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:17.559
at age sixty five. No cause of death given.

921
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:21.519
Wow man, talk about a career in TV just catapulting.

922
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:24.840
So interesting. So the DP and one of the writers

923
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:27.360
worked on amazing stories although a lot of people did

924
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.440
work on amazing stories yet, but it makes me wonder

925
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:32.000
if that was somehow an element to getting them in

926
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.079
Jaws four. It could have been, not one hundred percent sure,

927
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:38.639
It's just interesting to me because I wonder has Spielberg

928
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.320
said anything about the Jaws sequels that he wasn't involved.

929
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.400
With or not any not that I can recall, because

930
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:45.320
I just watched literally all the making ups. I mean

931
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:48.599
he's only the first one obviously, and they brought up

932
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:50.639
the sequels at the tail end, and he just said,

933
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.800
like he said something along the lines of I'm aware

934
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:53.800
of them. I've never seen them.

935
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.800
Damn never seen them. Spielberg.

936
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.159
Out of our cast, we have Lorraine Gary, who plays

937
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:04.000
Ellen Brody in the film. She gets her start in

938
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.920
nineteen sixty seven on Dragnet goes on to be in

939
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.239
Name of the Game in sixty nine, The Bold Ones,

940
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:11.320
The Protectors in sixty nine, The Bold Ones, the New

941
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:15.239
Doctors in sixty nine as well. McLeod the Virginian, the City,

942
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:19.280
Excuse me, the City, O'Hara us Treasury, McMillan and wife

943
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:23.039
her Ramsey Night Gallery in seventy two, Marcus Nelson murders

944
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:24.880
in seventy three, which is where Spielberg ses are to

945
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.000
put cast her in Jaws by the way, really m

946
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.599
Okay Partners in Crime in seventy three, Wide World of

947
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.760
Mystery in seventy three, the FBI in seventy three, Ironside

948
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:37.559
Kojack Pray for the Wildcats, Marcus Welby, MD, then the

949
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:41.159
Rookies in seventy two, Jaws in seventy five, then goes

950
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:43.559
on also being car Wash in seventy six. I never

951
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.079
promised you a rose Guard in seventy seven, Jaws two

952
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:48.760
and seventy eight, zero to sixty and seventy eight, Crash

953
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:51.320
in seventy eight, Just You, Me and the Kid in

954
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:54.239
seventy nine, Jaws, The Revenge in eighty seven.

955
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:58.000
She came out of quasi retirement. Yes, that is correct.

956
00:44:58.119 --> 00:44:59.400
Did you do anything after DAWs The Revenge.

957
00:44:59.519 --> 00:44:59.599
No.

958
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:00.920
Oh, so that was straight up was it?

959
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:03.639
Because a lot of times we've seen with a few,

960
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:08.519
especially female actors, we've seen them come out of retirement

961
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:11.719
and then have an entire second career as like in

962
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:14.559
their in their older age. Yeah, we've seen a few

963
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:16.920
people who like did had just as long a career

964
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:23.480
after a Yeah, while Pyper Laurie Yeah, yeah, and was

965
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:26.320
like in I think easily as much stuff as she

966
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:28.519
was in before. Yeah, I mean Carrie launched her at

967
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.320
that point obviously, and then I mean it was not

968
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.119
even a decade later she was in Twin Peaks.

969
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:37.079
Wow. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, for those who don't know, Loring,

970
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.280
Gary also married to Sid Sheinberg, who was the MCA

971
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:43.039
president at Universal. So that's why she came out of

972
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:44.440
retirement for that one specifically.

973
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.400
Well, I mean I'm guessing, I mean she probably got

974
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:48.599
Do we know how much they paid her?

975
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:50.800
I don't it. Maybe it may be in my notes,

976
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:54.159
but I don't think it is. Moving down to our cast,

977
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.239
we also have Lance Guest, who plays Michael Brodie in

978
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:57.920
the film. He gets to start as an actor in

979
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.360
seventy eight on Dallas, goes on to be and Why

980
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.679
Us in eighty one, Please Don't Hit Me Mom in

981
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:06.400
eighty one, as well Halloween two and eighty one, Cassie

982
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:08.599
and Company in eighty two, I Ought to Be a Prince,

983
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:12.519
Lou Grant, Saint Elsewhere, Confessions of a Married Man, The Roommate,

984
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:14.840
then The Last Starfighter of Course in eighty four, The

985
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:18.079
Star of which I only saw not that long ago,

986
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:19.760
for last year for Me on the big screen, and

987
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.599
it is good. That's a really great film, so much fun.

988
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.079
Just the Way you Are in eighty four, ABC After

989
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:28.440
School Specials, Walking to Walking to Act in eighty five, Jaws,

990
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.559
The Revenge in eighty seven, then goes on to be

991
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:33.599
in the Wizard of Loneliness, Favorite Sun Knots, Landing, The

992
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:37.039
Wonder Years, Liz goes on Heart to Heart, Returns All

993
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:39.719
American Girl, episodes of The X File in ninety five,

994
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:43.920
Party of Five, The Burning Zone, Plan b Becker, Thanks

995
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:47.639
Stepsister from Planet Weird in two thousand, Mock two in

996
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:53.760
two thousand, episodes of jag NYPD Blue House, shadow Box, Jericho, Flubird, Horror,

997
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:57.159
Least of These, and Wake Up Late Show with Letterman.

998
00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:59.519
He appears on Night of the Wolf. Late phases in

999
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:05.960
twenty four He's the Sun no shit, all right, yeah, yeah,

1000
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:09.599
Traces in twenty twenty one, The Patient in twenty twenty two,

1001
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:11.360
which is the Steve crelscho.

1002
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:14.039
Right, yes, yeah, oh that's such a great.

1003
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:16.320
And alter Perceptions in twenty twenty three.

1004
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:20.760
Oh man, no, the Patient is that's seriously one to watch.

1005
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:21.079
Yeah.

1006
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:21.960
Yeah.

1007
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.960
We also have Mario van Peebles in the cast, who

1008
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:26.840
plays Jake. One hundred and eleven credits on this man's resume,

1009
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:28.519
by the way, which I'm sure you're not surprised by.

1010
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:30.800
What was it, one hundred and eleven credits on Mario

1011
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:31.480
van Peebles.

1012
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:33.239
Wow, I actually thought might be more. You'll have the

1013
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:35.960
more well I think he got he was able to

1014
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.239
get more picky, yeah, which is good.

1015
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:40.480
Oh. Absolutely so. He gets his start in seventy one

1016
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:43.920
with a sweet Sweat, Sweet Sweetbacks, badass song of course.

1017
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:45.719
Sweet sweet Backs, badass song.

1018
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.440
Cross Current in seventy one, the sophisticated Jents in eighty

1019
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:51.239
one one Life to Live in eighty three, film debut

1020
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.239
for his later career in Exterminator two in eighty.

1021
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:57.760
Four, That's where Your Career Really launches.

1022
00:47:57.480 --> 00:47:58.920
Goes on to be in another one of my favorites.

1023
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.800
The Cotton Club in eighty four, Delivery Boys eighty five,

1024
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:04.880
Rapping in eighty five, Children of the Night, South Bronx Heroes,

1025
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:08.199
The Cosby Show three fifteen, Moment of Truth, Last Resort,

1026
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:11.559
La Law, Heartbreak Ridge in eighty six, Facts of Life

1027
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:13.679
down Under in eighty seven. Same year he does Jaws

1028
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:15.920
The Revenge, then goes on to be in The Child Saver,

1029
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:19.679
Identity Crisis twenty one, Jump Street, Blue Bayou, New Jack

1030
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.880
City in ninety one, which he also directs, Yes, Stomping

1031
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.280
at Savoy in the Line of Duty Street War, which

1032
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:27.400
those in the Line of Duty movies are so much fun,

1033
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:29.559
and that one was one of the best. Yeah Yeah,

1034
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.920
Street Wars fantastic, goes on to do in Living Color

1035
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:36.760
in ninety three, Posse in ninety three, which he also directs, Gunmen,

1036
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:41.320
Full Eclipse, high Lander, Final Dimension, Panther Solo, Riot, Gang

1037
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:45.360
in Blue, Strangers, The Outer Limits, Crazy Six Killers in

1038
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:47.920
the House, Judgment Day in ninety nine, The One with

1039
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:48.480
Iced Tea.

1040
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:49.679
I love Judgment Day.

1041
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.880
It's a good movie. Marshall Law in ninety eight, The

1042
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:55.039
Hebrew Hammer in two thousand and three. I Love The

1043
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.000
Hebrew Hammer. That thing played Comedy Central Incess.

1044
00:48:58.000 --> 00:48:59.559
It was an original. Yeah, that's why.

1045
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:04.599
Yeah, Badass, the making of a Sweet Sweet Sweetbacks Badass song.

1046
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.119
It's kind of the story of his father. Yeah, and

1047
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:08.239
he plays his father. Yeah.

1048
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:10.280
It's a great film. Soul Food two thousand and four,

1049
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:13.480
Carlito's Way, Rise to Power, Hard Luck, Lawn Order, All

1050
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:17.159
My Children, Damages, the Game, Hellcats, We The Party, which

1051
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.320
he also directs, Red Sky, Drumline of New Beats. Yes,

1052
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.159
there's a drum Line sequel, Okay. Then he goes on

1053
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:27.039
to do Bloodline, Deception, Z Nation, A Clear Shot, Empire,

1054
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:29.639
Salt and Peppa Wu Tang in American Saga, which he

1055
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:32.599
also directs, Black Cake in twenty twenty three, and Outlaw

1056
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:33.760
Posse in twenty twenty four.

1057
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:36.400
I am embarrassed to say I didn't know he was

1058
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:38.039
so active. Still, Yeah, that's awesome.

1059
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:41.840
Directing that I didn't mention includes Gang in Blue, hard Luck.

1060
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:44.639
He directed episode of Sons of Anarchy, episode of Damages,

1061
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.599
episode of Lawn Order, episode of Lost, episodes of Boss,

1062
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:51.480
episodes of NCIS, Once Upon a Time, The Last Ship Roots.

1063
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:55.079
He also directed the USS Indianapolis Men of Courage, the

1064
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:59.440
Nick Cage movie that's a Mario van People's directed film.

1065
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:00.880
Do watch that one? You did?

1066
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:01.400
Oh?

1067
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:02.920
Because it was hit Netflix?

1068
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:04.559
Oh no, I've liked it.

1069
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.960
It was pretty good. Episodes of Empire, episodes of Power,

1070
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:11.000
Sultan Pepper, The Sultan Pepper, the VH one or I

1071
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:12.880
think it was a VH one original movie. I think

1072
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:16.079
CSI Vegas and that Wu Tang. So he's been out now.

1073
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:19.159
I know why his credits as an actor dropped because

1074
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:20.880
he became a prolific television director.

1075
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:23.239
Oh yeah, good for him. Oh hell yeah.

1076
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.119
R Evan People's Badass.

1077
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:26.880
Posse from nineteen ninety three, the western he did with

1078
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:29.679
Billy Zay. Fantastic movie that does not get enough credit.

1079
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:33.920
I'm pretty sure I have Joe Bob hosting that on

1080
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:35.159
down my list.

1081
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:38.320
I know Andrew really loves that movie too. So what

1082
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:40.880
was your first time watching Jaws The Revenge?

1083
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:45.480
Well, David, I was so young that I can't pinpoint

1084
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:48.800
an exact moment, but I can tell you that I

1085
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:51.559
watched it many, many times because I taped it off

1086
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:55.280
of HBO. And this says a lot about me. I

1087
00:50:55.840 --> 00:51:00.719
had to have been five six years old because it

1088
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:03.559
scared me. The opening sequence, we're gonna be talking about

1089
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:05.599
here in a minute where the shark bites the guy's

1090
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:08.320
arm off. Yeah, scared me so bad and gave me

1091
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:10.920
so many nightmares as a kid that I used to

1092
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:12.920
when I would want to watch Jaws, which is you

1093
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.159
know five, I was like, I'm gonna watch Jaws. When

1094
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:17.719
I used to watch it, I would fast forward past

1095
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:21.079
that and I would start after that.

1096
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:25.880
Was over, because it was scary traumatizing as a kid. Yeah.

1097
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:29.559
Absolutely, and it's still a pretty effective scene except for

1098
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:32.880
the weird mishmash of edits they did for the attack

1099
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:35.480
where the shark comes up, because I I, this is

1100
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:39.039
based on nothing, but I believe that likely the original

1101
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:42.760
version was just like a quick shot of the shark

1102
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.960
and then like splashing water and then him going and

1103
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:47.840
realizing his arm was gone, which would have been scary,

1104
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:51.079
even more scary. Yeah, but then they just like Hodgepodge

1105
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:53.719
in all these sharks. Yeah, and some of them it's

1106
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:58.199
clearly daytime footage. They've turned yea turned blue. But that

1107
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:01.760
scene stuck out with me forever, and I've always had

1108
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:06.760
a fear of the water, so I really liked as

1109
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.320
a kid the sequences once they end up on the

1110
00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:11.559
boat for like that last act, you know, where they're

1111
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:13.280
all trying to figureut how to kill the shark. Yeah,

1112
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:16.639
and it gets, you know, spoiler, progressively stupider as you go.

1113
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:21.000
But no. So I saw it insanely young and watched

1114
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:25.039
it many many times, and then revisited it as a teenager,

1115
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:27.920
realizing like, oh, hey, I you know now the DVD

1116
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.320
is really proliferated. I'm going to watch Jaws and then

1117
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:33.079
Jaws two, and then Jaws three and then Jaws The Revenge. Yeah,

1118
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.880
and I'd be like, whoa, Jaws the Revenge. But then

1119
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:39.360
it was It was years later when I was watching

1120
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:42.039
it at my buddy's beach house on Long Beach Island,

1121
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:44.960
New Jersey. He was like, dude, you want to watch Jaws.

1122
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:46.559
And I was like, I want to watch Jaws the

1123
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:48.280
Revenge and he lit up. He's like, I have a

1124
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:50.199
copy of the pack, the multi pack.

1125
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:50.760
Yeah.

1126
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:52.559
We were watching Jaws the Revenge. And that was the

1127
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.039
first time that I insisted on dissecting all.

1128
00:52:56.920 --> 00:53:00.480
Of the weird things, because you could at that point. Yeah.

1129
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.199
So I was pausing it and going like whoa, whoa,

1130
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:04.719
and my buddy, who was with my buddy, Josh, and

1131
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:07.440
Josh was a film guy. Yeah, so I would stop

1132
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:08.880
and be like, dude, because he would joke about like,

1133
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:11.280
these edits are so bad, and I was like, let's

1134
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:15.519
see just how bad these edits are.

1135
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:15.880
Yep.

1136
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:21.239
And that's the birth of the event screenings of Jaws

1137
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.559
the Revenge that happened in my home impromptu backyard. Well,

1138
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:25.960
we did the backyard, but the first time I did

1139
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:26.760
that was in my living room.

1140
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:28.639
That was because so originally we went to go see

1141
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:30.760
Conjuring two and Conjuring two was sold out, and that

1142
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:33.800
was the day that Amazon had graciously delivered my Jaws

1143
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:36.559
blue rays of two, three, and four. So we came

1144
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:38.480
back here because Conjuring two was sold out and we

1145
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:39.519
put on Jaws the Revenge.

1146
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:40.880
I remember because I was like, have you have you

1147
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:45.599
framed by frame? And I like to think I've given

1148
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:48.760
an entire generation of people slightly more of an appreciation

1149
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:50.960
for how nuts Jaws the Revenge.

1150
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:54.079
I think, And that so Jaws the Revenge is ninety minutes.

1151
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:56.079
As I said at the beginning of the show, I

1152
00:53:56.119 --> 00:53:58.599
think that particular watching of Jaws the Revenge at your

1153
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:00.360
house when we frame by framed it made it into

1154
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.039
a two and a half hour event easily.

1155
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.679
It also established things like singing The Revenge to the

1156
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:09.400
to the tune of Noel of the first Noel and stuff.

1157
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:13.440
I love Jaws the Revenge. It's very much like some

1158
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:18.440
people feel about like like Rocky Horror. Yeah, I think

1159
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:20.840
that there's so much to love about how weird Jaws

1160
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:26.400
the Revenge is, and every weird choice is worth dissecting.

1161
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:31.239
So the first time for me watching it, it was

1162
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:33.400
I was a young kid. I'm not sure how how

1163
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:35.440
young I was, but it was late at night. I

1164
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:36.719
think I was the only one left up in the

1165
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:40.039
house and it was TNT and I was watching whatever

1166
00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:42.519
was ending on there have no idea, and it went

1167
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.360
into Jaws the Revenge, and I'd never seen I had

1168
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:47.639
seen all of one, had seen bits and pieces of two,

1169
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:50.320
had never seen three, and had knew about the Revenge,

1170
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:52.639
but I had never seen it. So it started, and yeah,

1171
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.320
that scene of the of the Sun getting his arm

1172
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:56.880
bit off and then getting his head basically a bit

1173
00:54:56.920 --> 00:55:00.719
off with everything was just so fucking traumatic that I

1174
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:02.880
stopped and went to bed, like I was just like, Nope,

1175
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:08.000
this is too intense. But so then several years later

1176
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:11.079
caught it on TV again, watched it. Always had that

1177
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:13.719
understanding of it was the lesser of the Jaw sequels,

1178
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:15.599
so really didn't pay much attention to it. But when

1179
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:18.239
Amazon had announced that two, three, and four were coming out,

1180
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:19.960
while I have to get the entire collection, how can

1181
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:22.679
I not, Well, yeah, so of course got them, and

1182
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:24.880
then yeah, you and I watched Jaws Revenge. I was

1183
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:26.920
never a big fan of Jaws of Revenge because I

1184
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:29.119
always felt like there was not much shark in it.

1185
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:32.320
And what's hilarious is I think honestly it probably has

1186
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:33.760
the most screen time next to two.

1187
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:35.880
Yeah, there's a lot of shark. Actually there's a lot

1188
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.880
of shark. There's a lot of shark.

1189
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.119
But it was the screening in your Backyard in particular,

1190
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:42.559
where I was just like, oh, this is actually a

1191
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:43.519
pretty fun movie.

1192
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.480
There's so much going on. It has. Like I said,

1193
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:49.079
the best part about the film is the choices. The

1194
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:53.679
choices are so strange, they're just it's just offbeat enough.

1195
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:57.199
Oh yeah, and Michael Caine really kind of throws a

1196
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:00.239
weird kind of monkey wrench in it by being Michael Kine. Yea,

1197
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:03.960
he's not phoning it in. He's doing his best because

1198
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.840
he's Michael Kaine. You know, he's he always does his best.

1199
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:09.079
I think, I mean maybe maybe I don't. I don't

1200
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:10.079
think he's ever phoned it in.

1201
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:10.440
Yeah.

1202
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:13.159
I could be wrong on that though, but it kind.

1203
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:15.159
Of shocked me he wasn't the the what the top

1204
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:16.679
tier of the casting because when I when I did

1205
00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:18.360
my notes, I was just like, Wow, Michael Kaine's not

1206
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:18.920
in the top three.

1207
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:21.320
I could tell you why that is. Wouldn't let them,

1208
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.000
Oh that makes sense, that's a big that's a major

1209
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:24.920
negotiation point.

1210
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:25.519
Yeah.

1211
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:27.039
So the whole thing would be like, oh, if I'm

1212
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:28.840
going to do it for this amount of money, then

1213
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:33.079
you can't credit me like I have to be when

1214
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:35.039
and the few films I've done where we worked with

1215
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:39.079
celebrity cameos where they were only a day, that was

1216
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:40.760
one of the first things was like, you cannot top

1217
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:42.960
bill me, like, you're not allowed because I'm only in

1218
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.920
it for a day. And and fair enough, I mean

1219
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:47.440
I get it. They don't want they don't want their

1220
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:50.719
name to become cheap because oh, you know your top

1221
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.280
building then you're in four scenes. Yeah, so I get it,

1222
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:56.360
I get it. But yeah, so I guarantee that was

1223
00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:58.199
a part of it was that he couldn't be credited

1224
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:02.440
in the top two, or he just plane wanted even

1225
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:04.320
more money because I'm I don't remember how much they

1226
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:06.360
paid him, but it was a lot two million, It

1227
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:07.199
might have been that much.

1228
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:09.000
It's two or three million, I want to say. I

1229
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:12.320
feel like so opening with Jaws of Revenge, obviously we

1230
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:14.159
have to start like any other Jaws movie. We are

1231
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:18.079
under the sea, and we have we have the theme playing.

1232
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:22.119
We're going through the town of Amity, Amity, Amyville, Wow

1233
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:26.159
of Amity and seeing that there it's nighttime, there's a

1234
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:28.679
bunch of boats around, and we immediately go up to

1235
00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:31.840
basically the eye of a dead fish as we are

1236
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:33.079
in the kitchen of the brodies.

1237
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:37.800
According to some reports one point five million, some just

1238
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:39.559
one million, but that was.

1239
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:43.360
For two weeks Jesus two weeks work. I know he

1240
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:45.000
wanted to go to Hawaii because that's in my notes.

1241
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:47.639
So that's like he read haw that the first page

1242
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:51.079
said opening Hawaii, and like the notes in the script did.

1243
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:52.320
So that was like, oh, yeah, I'll take.

1244
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.760
It, which is pretty good till yeah, still too.

1245
00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:56.559
But yeah, so we are in the kitchen of the

1246
00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:59.679
Brody's We see that Sean, the son, the youngest son

1247
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:02.719
from the movie, is now a deputy at the Amityville

1248
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:05.599
police station. He is cooking fish. We see Ellen Brody

1249
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:08.599
is talking to Michael about his job in the Bahamas

1250
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:10.760
because he is now working with Sea Life as well.

1251
00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:14.599
And then we cut over to Christmas time and amity.

1252
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:17.119
It's actually kind of cute, you know. There's a little

1253
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:18.960
bit of snow on the ground. It's supposed to be

1254
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:21.800
upstate New York, so they have white the winters. There's

1255
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:22.800
Christmas lights up.

1256
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:24.840
Everywhere, children are singing.

1257
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:28.280
And unfortunately that doesn't last very long.

1258
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.559
Does not bode well for Sean because he stops in

1259
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.159
the police station before going home, and Polly tells him

1260
00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:35.360
that there's a call in that there is a hunk

1261
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:37.280
of wood that is on a booie that is keeping

1262
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:39.000
it blocked, that they need it removed before the fishing

1263
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:41.480
boats get back in the morning. So he decides to

1264
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:43.920
go on out and get it unblocked, and he pulls

1265
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:46.360
up to the buoye. We see everything's calm, We're hearing

1266
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:48.079
kids sing the first snow el.

1267
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:54.800
The revenge Revenge, and he goes over to the buoye.

1268
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:57.119
He goes to remove the piece of wood. We cut

1269
00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:00.320
to POV of something approaching the boat, and suddenly a

1270
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.559
lot of cuts in edits later his arm is missing.

1271
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:05.199
Yes, and it's still even with those cuts. I mean,

1272
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:07.239
he falls back and just kind of looks around and

1273
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:09.119
then he realizes like there's no arm there.

1274
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:11.920
And my memory, for some reason thought you saw bone.

1275
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:16.599
See. My memory was that I was almost certainly rewatching

1276
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.320
it as a kid on an EP VHS. Yeah, and

1277
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.239
for those who were too young, EP meant you could

1278
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:26.320
fit like six hours or something ridiculous. Yeah, it was

1279
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:28.800
like six hours on a two hour tape. Yeah, but

1280
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:33.599
the quality was very low, and I remember it being

1281
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:35.880
dark and him just kind of falling back into being

1282
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:38.400
all dark and murky, and then him revealing like by

1283
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:40.760
moving his hand over his arm should be Yeah, because

1284
00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:42.760
on the blu ray it's you kind of see that

1285
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:46.119
he's clearly hiding his arms. Yeah. But in but on VHS,

1286
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:48.400
I was just like ah ah, because the idea that

1287
00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:50.840
you would you would something would happen really sudden, and

1288
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:53.199
then you'd fall back and then realize you have no arm.

1289
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:56.679
And I always felt like it was pretty violent for

1290
00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:59.400
a Jaws movie of what we'd seen so far, because yeah,

1291
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:01.599
we'd seen a they're usually in the water. For him

1292
01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:04.119
to actually fall back and have something missing that usually

1293
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:06.280
didn't happen, Yeah, I mean that was a pretty big

1294
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:08.119
jump from previous Joss films.

1295
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:10.599
Yeah, and it's a good way to catch the audience's attention.

1296
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:13.920
Yeah. So he starts panicking, of course, calling out, screaming,

1297
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.360
and we see the POV of the shark again approaching

1298
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:18.400
the boat as he is leaning against the side of it,

1299
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:21.760
more edits more jumpy camera. There's one shot in particular

1300
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.000
that they use throughout this movie, which is a shot

1301
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:25.760
of the shark opening its mouth and you just see

1302
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:28.400
the teeth out wide, and that is the shot they

1303
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:29.719
keep using over and over.

1304
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:32.559
Oh yeah, and they use shots from the first film.

1305
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:37.039
They do all kinds of reuse, recycle.

1306
01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:38.920
That they do. So Sean ends up in the water.

1307
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:40.760
When we cut back, we see that the boat's completely

1308
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:42.960
been bit off of the side. It's starting to sink. Actually,

1309
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:45.480
Sean's screaming for help. We're hearing the first Noel or

1310
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:47.840
Silent Night from the kids on the shore, and then

1311
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:49.760
suddenly it gets pulled under along with the.

1312
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:53.559
Boat and then it's quiet quick it was also really scary.

1313
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.239
Is then it's silent other than hearing the kids singing

1314
01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:56.960
off in the distance.

1315
01:00:57.079 --> 01:01:00.719
Yeah. So we cut over to the funeral. We see

1316
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:03.719
that Michael and his wife and her his daughter are

1317
01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:05.719
in town with them. We also see some regulars from

1318
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.920
Jaws return. Missus Kittner returns, and so does the one

1319
01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:11.960
woman who's are you going to close the beaches?

1320
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:15.239
There's a lot of easter eggs. Yeah, and that takes

1321
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:19.639
effort and care, Yeah, to try to make a proper

1322
01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:21.679
sequel to the first one. That's kind of what I

1323
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:24.679
feel like they were actually going for, yeah, was that

1324
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:28.119
after three had done what three did, they were like, Okay,

1325
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:31.119
we need to bring back people from the film. We

1326
01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:34.519
need to go back to amity briefly. And which is

1327
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:36.199
why it's extra funny that the movie turn out the

1328
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:38.199
way it did, because it's it's like there's so much

1329
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:41.320
there's so much attitude of like who cares, just get

1330
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:44.039
it done, like whatever. And then also, but it's a

1331
01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:45.960
sequel to Jaws, we should do this and this and

1332
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:47.239
this to try and make it all work.

1333
01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:49.360
I think the best reveal of all is right here

1334
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:51.800
where we find out that they're going that she's going

1335
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:53.639
to go back with them to the Bahamas and everything.

1336
01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:55.719
But they show this piece of wood on the beach

1337
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:57.559
that was what was on the buoy. It's a piece

1338
01:01:57.599 --> 01:01:58.079
of the Orca.

1339
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:00.599
Yeah, that's a hell of a moment.

1340
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:03.199
That is a I mean, that's a fucking Easter egg now.

1341
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:06.199
Yeah. And the fact that the mother, you know, is

1342
01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:08.159
dealing with the fact, like I lost a husband to

1343
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:11.039
was didn't she say? It was like he didn't die,

1344
01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:11.920
he didn't water.

1345
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:14.840
He didn't die of he didn't die of a heart attack,

1346
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:16.280
he died of fear of it coming back.

1347
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:18.920
Yeah, he was just he lived his life in terror. Yeah,

1348
01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:22.119
and that gave him early great Yeah, and I can't

1349
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:25.000
imagine he was very fun to live with during that period. No,

1350
01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:27.199
but I mean this sad story.

1351
01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:29.360
We see Roy Schreider in a shot in this movie

1352
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:30.880
as he's a picture in the police station, which is

1353
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:33.079
one of the promo shots and Jaws that I love,

1354
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:36.679
of course, of course, but I've always loved that little

1355
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:38.599
touch that we see that that's a piece of the Orca,

1356
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:41.320
that that is literally starting the events of this movie.

1357
01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:43.760
Yeah, So it's like it all comes back yeah, it

1358
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:44.679
comes back around.

1359
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:47.400
So yeah, she flies out with with Michael and his

1360
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:49.760
family and that's when we meet Hogy, which is Michael

1361
01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:50.760
Kine for the first time.

1362
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:56.840
The name Michael Caine. Hogy is just great, Yeah, it really,

1363
01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:01.280
Hogy is such a hilarious nickname and but for a

1364
01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:03.719
British man, very funny.

1365
01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:05.840
Pretty great. So yeah, Michael's convinced her to come out

1366
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:08.280
with the family and everything. So they're flying out, they're

1367
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:11.079
flying into the Bahamas, and the first shot we get

1368
01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:13.280
is them approaching the house in a limo with the

1369
01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:16.000
limo drivers seeing Chris's music mind you, of course.

1370
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:18.039
Because it's festive, because it's festive time of year.

1371
01:03:18.480 --> 01:03:21.519
And immediately Ellen arrives at the house in is freaked

1372
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:23.519
out because there's a rope swing that hangs over this

1373
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:26.039
pier where the little girl is swinging, and she just

1374
01:03:26.119 --> 01:03:28.280
wants no one near the water. Even back at the house,

1375
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:29.400
she has said, you know, I want you to quit

1376
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:31.480
your job, get away from the water. I don't want

1377
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:33.000
any of my family near the water. And that's what

1378
01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:35.840
the whole thing of your father being afraid is what

1379
01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:36.360
killed him.

1380
01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:40.360
Yeah, and it's hilarious because with all the events of

1381
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:44.239
the Jaws film first two films. Yeah, both sons worked

1382
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:44.760
with the water.

1383
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:45.039
Yeah.

1384
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:48.239
Of course, one works where it all happened. The other

1385
01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:50.280
works on the other side of the world in a

1386
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:54.039
totally different type of ocean, doing research on conk shells. Yeah,

1387
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:57.199
and everyone, not the shells, but the conks themselves. He's

1388
01:03:57.199 --> 01:04:00.519
an aquatic researcher, yeah, which is of course he is.

1389
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:02.599
And for those who don't remember, Michael is the one

1390
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:04.760
who's in the pond in the original Jaws film. Michael's

1391
01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:06.719
in the pond. That's that's when he encounters the shark.

1392
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:09.199
In Jaws one, he is. Also they're both tormented by

1393
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:12.280
the shark again in Jaws two, and Michael gets concussed

1394
01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:14.679
in Jaws two and Sean is left with everybody on

1395
01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:16.440
the island in Jaws two. So these kids have not

1396
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:19.039
had an easy life with water, well or sharks.

1397
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:22.039
In their defense, it's been like twenty years years, so

1398
01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:24.440
it has been a long time and no SeaWorld, and

1399
01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:27.719
most people, you know, they just they just forget childhood trauma.

1400
01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:29.920
It doesn't really stick around stick around now.

1401
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:33.480
No, No, that is shocking that Michael did seek out

1402
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:35.559
a job for ocean work.

1403
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:41.519
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it is. You know, it's

1404
01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:44.159
a totally different place though, I mean working in the

1405
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:47.599
Bahamas than warm water. Yeah, totally different. I assume I've

1406
01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:49.280
never been in warm ocean water.

1407
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:51.639
I haven't either. I mean I've been the Florida.

1408
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:54.199
I think that's close. I think it's warmer than I

1409
01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:57.639
mean the furthest south i've been in the ocean is Jersey.

1410
01:04:57.800 --> 01:04:59.480
That's fair and it's cold.

1411
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:00.719
Yeah, yeah, I've heard that.

1412
01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:02.599
Yeah. The first time I went to the ocean was

1413
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:04.639
was I think it was New Hampshire was right nearby.

1414
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:06.559
It was way up in New England. That water was

1415
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:07.920
freezing cold in the summer.

1416
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:08.679
I can imagine.

1417
01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:11.760
But honestly, it's very nice when it's hot. But yeah,

1418
01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:12.599
cold water.

1419
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:16.320
So, uh, there's not I'm gonna go ahead and say,

1420
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:17.880
and we've and we've discussed this off, Mike, there's not

1421
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:20.559
a lot that per se happens in this movie, so

1422
01:05:20.599 --> 01:05:23.119
we may throw some events around and rush through this

1423
01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:23.760
pretty quick.

1424
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:28.679
Except everything happened. Everything happens in this movie because you've

1425
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:31.800
got you've got a killer shark, you've got family dynamics,

1426
01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:36.039
you've got generational trauma, you've got a new love blossoming

1427
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:39.880
in the Shadow of Death, David Dave.

1428
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:43.000
I mean fair Michael works with with Mario Van People's

1429
01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:45.800
character Jake. They are studying snails at the bottom of

1430
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:49.480
the ocean, con shells specifically, and his wife is a

1431
01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:52.719
metal worker that is doing this big sculpture for Bahama's U.

1432
01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:55.920
She's a metal artist, metal artist. She's she's not building

1433
01:05:56.320 --> 01:05:59.119
peers and stuff out of steel. She's she's creating things

1434
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:01.519
out of metal. Yeah, And I want to make sure

1435
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:04.559
we don't pass over the fact that Marvan peebles and

1436
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:06.719
this has been cast as a Jamaica as a Jamaican,

1437
01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:09.559
So he's got his dreadlocks and he's doing his whole

1438
01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:12.239
mom thing. He's doing his accent and he is chewing

1439
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.840
that scenery. Yes, it looked like he was having some fun.

1440
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.000
Oh yeah. I think a lot of people are just

1441
01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:18.800
having fun in this movie, because how can you not.

1442
01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:21.039
I mean, they literally all get to hang out in

1443
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:23.400
the Bahamas. Yeah, they get to hang on the Bamas.

1444
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:26.800
Do you notice how tan Michael is, like he is really.

1445
01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:27.960
Tan, Like yeah.

1446
01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:28.280
Yeah.

1447
01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:32.159
So some events that happen, we have Lorrangarry has a

1448
01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:34.320
nightmare that she's swimming in the water and the shark

1449
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:36.719
attacks her another some quick edits and some whatnot. She

1450
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:39.039
wakes up in the bed and THEA is like, you know, Grandma,

1451
01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:42.119
are you okay? And we also see that we talked

1452
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:44.320
about the voodoo element that's cut out of this movie.

1453
01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:46.760
She is on the beach playing with THEA at one

1454
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:49.320
point they're making a sand castle and she just looks

1455
01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:52.360
out into the water and just gets a vibe of something. Yes,

1456
01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:54.119
And right as they do this, they cut to the

1457
01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:57.400
best fucking shot of the shark, in my opinion, throughout

1458
01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:01.320
the entire movie. It swims through the this huge, huge

1459
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:03.480
shark with its mouth open the entire time.

1460
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:05.840
Well they do, they do, just catch whatever they catch

1461
01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:06.320
and they'll eat it.

1462
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:08.880
They do. But I mean it's pretty great.

1463
01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:11.960
No, no, it's and the shark. How the shark looks

1464
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:16.079
underwater varies from really good yeah, to quite silly, quite silly.

1465
01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:18.400
But but the main reason it's silly is because the

1466
01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:21.360
shark is not real, so when it passes the camera,

1467
01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:22.840
it's just a big puppet.

1468
01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:25.960
Yeah. So Michael is back to work on his first

1469
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:28.199
day and they're not fighting any con shells. Him and

1470
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:30.119
Jake actually get into it for a little bit and

1471
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:31.920
he has to, like, they have to both take a

1472
01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:33.920
second because like Michael is just like, you know what

1473
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:35.800
the fuck man, And Jake takes a second. He's like,

1474
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:37.480
I'm sorry about your brother, man.

1475
01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:39.519
Yeah, because yeah, when they're starting to find a way,

1476
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:40.880
it's like you left me all alone to do all this.

1477
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:45.119
It's like, dude, his brother suddenly dies horrifically.

1478
01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:46.599
And we get the take two that they're really tight

1479
01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:48.480
with the family. They actually live pretty close to each

1480
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:48.880
other as well.

1481
01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:50.239
Oh yeah, they're clearly best friend.

1482
01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:52.280
Jake and his wife are over at the house. They're talking,

1483
01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:54.960
you know, to his mom about stories of them and

1484
01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:57.360
as kids and even the little girl. Thea is just like,

1485
01:07:57.719 --> 01:07:59.519
was uncle Sean ever bad? Did you ever have to

1486
01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:02.480
spank him? And that breaks Lorraine Gary's character down several

1487
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:03.239
times in this movie.

1488
01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:08.559
Yeah, out of the mouths of babes. Yeah, thanks kid.

1489
01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:11.519
So this leads up to the introduction of the shark

1490
01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:14.320
being in the in the film and at the Bahamas

1491
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:18.199
Is Jake is down there in the submarine doing the

1492
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:20.800
conch study, and all of a sudden, the shark just

1493
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:21.880
appears right.

1494
01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:25.399
By him and it's not really a submarine because they're

1495
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.560
in they're in scuba gear. Yeah, it's more of just

1496
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:30.279
a transportation transportation of ice. It's like it doesn't keep

1497
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:32.600
air in or anything. The water fills it up and

1498
01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:34.399
you just go around and you're already in the scuba.

1499
01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:35.600
I don't know there's a word for it, but I

1500
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:38.039
can't think of it. But yeah, it's like a little

1501
01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:41.159
car for underwater. He's literally just we see a shot

1502
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:43.359
of the conch shells. We cut back and there's Jake

1503
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:46.199
and there's the shark just next to just this giant,

1504
01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:49.880
great white shark head. And honestly, the fact that there's

1505
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:52.800
no like music scare right there is actually really scary.

1506
01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:57.479
It's just because underwater there's no sound. You know, everything

1507
01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:01.600
is the same kind of underwater sound, you know. So

1508
01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:03.960
the idea that that it could just come right up

1509
01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:04.319
to you.

1510
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:06.760
Yeah, terrifying, terrifying. Well, and then it also like so

1511
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:08.800
it bumps him a little bit and then just swims

1512
01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:10.520
past him, and he's like, you know, Jake, you know,

1513
01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:11.920
why are you quiet? Why are you quiet? Then the

1514
01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:14.840
shark leaps up, bites onto their boat, gnaws on it

1515
01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:16.479
for a bit, and this shark's again, it's huge.

1516
01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:18.159
It's gigantic, gigantic, just.

1517
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:21.760
Gnawn on this boat, and Michael is immediately just like whoa.

1518
01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:26.720
But of course instead of being mortified, they're fascinated. Yeah,

1519
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:29.760
because they're aquatic experts. They're they're marine biologists. That's the

1520
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:32.079
word I was trying to think of. They're marine biologists. Yeah,

1521
01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:36.079
so they know that, like, while it's not impossible, it's

1522
01:09:36.119 --> 01:09:38.600
pretty much unheard of for a great white shark to

1523
01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:42.520
be in the warm Caribbean waters. Correct, this is completely

1524
01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:45.760
not out of the ordinary, not expected at all, which

1525
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:49.720
means that there must be a really interesting scientific explanation. Yes,

1526
01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:55.560
and because nobody thought maybe it's just voodoo, because that

1527
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:57.640
shark would have swam I think it was like seven

1528
01:09:57.720 --> 01:09:58.640
thousand miles.

1529
01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:00.880
There is I'll talk about what we'll gets in the notes,

1530
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:03.960
but there is a whole section in the book about

1531
01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:06.199
it coming in contact with a sperm whale, which basically

1532
01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:08.680
dictates where it's at in the water of crossing over.

1533
01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:12.119
Apparently that makes sense, I mean, and sharks can travel

1534
01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:14.880
an immense distance, yeah, get it seemed to get there

1535
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:19.600
pretty quick though, from New England. Yeah, well, well not

1536
01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:21.800
from New England. Remember this was this was New York.

1537
01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:25.079
So that saves us like four hundred miles, like six

1538
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:27.520
thousands a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's assuming

1539
01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:29.880
that he swam and didn't, like, you know, take the

1540
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:30.479
the Amtrak.

1541
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:32.920
Well what shark Speedia tract, you know what route he

1542
01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:36.319
would have taken at that point, sark Spedia. You're welcome.

1543
01:10:36.520 --> 01:10:37.600
That's all right, that's pretty good.

1544
01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:40.880
So while this is all going on to HOGI is

1545
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:44.479
trying to calm Ellen down, like make her have fun

1546
01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:46.840
on the island, have her explore, but also have her

1547
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:48.920
let go of like the fear and just like the

1548
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:49.800
trauma that is held on.

1549
01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:50.039
Yeah.

1550
01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:52.520
They want her to get away from the town where

1551
01:10:52.560 --> 01:10:56.159
she lost so much. Yeah, which, honestly, I think it's

1552
01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:58.680
a it's a wild that they stayed in that town.

1553
01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:00.279
It really is for so long.

1554
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:01.920
And I know that there have been many jokes made

1555
01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:03.560
about like if you're afraid of a shark, you know

1556
01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:05.399
where you don't want to be near the water, near

1557
01:11:05.399 --> 01:11:08.239
the ocean, Like how about Idaho? Yeah, you know so well.

1558
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:10.560
And you get the sense that the family itself doesn't

1559
01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:12.319
really talk about much because there's that whole scene in

1560
01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:13.920
the beginning right before they leave to go to the

1561
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:16.000
Bahamas that Michael and his wife are walking on the

1562
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:17.800
beach and she asked him something about Sean and he

1563
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:19.720
just like starts running and she's like, where are you going?

1564
01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:20.800
He's interested nowhere?

1565
01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:25.199
Yeah, No, it's definitely avoidance has been a big thing,

1566
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:27.279
and if you think about it, Michael would be the

1567
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:28.039
avoiding child.

1568
01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:31.359
He's the one who did move really far away. Oh yeah,

1569
01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:34.720
really really far away. Yeah, so Hogi is trying to

1570
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:37.439
persuade her to let go. There's several scenes where they're

1571
01:11:37.439 --> 01:11:40.000
at a festival dancing. There's a huge New Year's Eve

1572
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:42.880
scene where because Jake wants to study the shark, he

1573
01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:45.279
basically has Michael tell him do not see a word

1574
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:46.000
about this to my mind?

1575
01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:48.880
Yeah, well, because Jake is flat out like the concho

1576
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:49.680
will always be there.

1577
01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:50.279
Yeah.

1578
01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:53.000
This could be something that could bring us an insane

1579
01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:55.119
amount of grant money. It could get us a ton

1580
01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:57.000
of attention, it could make us famous, it could set

1581
01:11:57.039 --> 01:12:00.000
our careers up for life. Because this is an animal

1582
01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:03.880
that people already don't understand very well, and now we

1583
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:05.439
have it in a place in the world where it's

1584
01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:06.319
never supposed to be.

1585
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:07.319
So let's tag it.

1586
01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:09.720
Let's tag it and find out where it came from,

1587
01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:11.239
where it's going, and why it's here.

1588
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:13.640
So they set up this whole scene where he has

1589
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:15.880
this transponder that he is going to attach to the

1590
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:18.680
shark via like basically stabbing it in the side. Yeah.

1591
01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:20.960
And so he's got Michael holding him back on the ropes.

1592
01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:22.720
They're waiting for the shark to come about. They've gone

1593
01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:24.800
through the water, they've chummed the water as well, and

1594
01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:27.199
then finally the shark pops up, Jake gets it and

1595
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:29.239
nabs it aside, and now they have a trackable shark.

1596
01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:34.560
Yeah, and they and they basically the transponder broadcasts it's heartbeat. Yes,

1597
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:36.640
that's how it works, so they know when it's coming

1598
01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:41.279
because their machines will start to get the yep.

1599
01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:43.960
So now this also allows them to be safer again

1600
01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:46.239
when they're studying the conches and the rare times that

1601
01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:50.079
they do as well. So they think, well, that's that's fair.

1602
01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:52.800
And I believe this was around the time that Van

1603
01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:55.079
Peebles makes the Jaws.

1604
01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:57.880
Sound yes, but so yeah, go ahead, no.

1605
01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:00.520
No, So this has been a popular thing to pick

1606
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:04.039
on Jaws the revenge about which I love. And now

1607
01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:08.880
as I'm rewatching him like man memory changes things. The

1608
01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:11.239
critique was always that when Van Peebles is talking to

1609
01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:13.199
him on the radio when he's doing in the water

1610
01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:16.479
and they know the shark is nearby early on that

1611
01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:19.960
he's going dud dudu, and people like, what is he

1612
01:13:20.039 --> 01:13:22.159
referencing because Jaws doesn't exist in this universe?

1613
01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:23.399
This is Shaws.

1614
01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:27.319
But then I watch I watched it tonight and realized

1615
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:30.920
he isn't going dud now unless they changed it after

1616
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:31.920
the fact, which I don't think they did.

1617
01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:32.760
I don't think they did.

1618
01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:34.960
But he's not. He's actually just kind of it's more

1619
01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:40.079
of a generic like suspense done done, done done, and

1620
01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:42.279
that's not I mean John Williams.

1621
01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:44.399
John Williams is John Williams score.

1622
01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:46.840
Well, he's a genius scorewriter, but he didn't invent going

1623
01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:50.840
done done, yeah, done done. He did not, so I'll

1624
01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:52.520
give it to you. Though it's still funny the idea

1625
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:54.920
of like doing a movie scary thing, but he isn't

1626
01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:58.079
straight up doing John Williams score. Although right after that

1627
01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:00.000
that we do get the first real big dirt.

1628
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:04.319
Because as Michael is going through looking at the conscious,

1629
01:14:04.359 --> 01:14:06.720
he doesn't see from the side that the shark comes

1630
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:08.840
in and starts biting at the sub immediately.

1631
01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:12.960
Oh yeah, it wants to eat that that's submersible and

1632
01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:14.319
wants to get itself some.

1633
01:14:14.279 --> 01:14:17.560
More brody, wants some brody. So Michael decides that he

1634
01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:20.279
is going to ditch the or the submarine boat, whatever

1635
01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:22.520
you want to call it, the device, and he sees

1636
01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:24.640
a sunken ship nearby that he swims into. And this

1637
01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:26.199
is probably my favorite scene of the movie.

1638
01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:30.520
It's it's the most lengthy underwater photography. Yeah, and it's

1639
01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:33.119
really it's really solid. Yeah, you could tell they spent

1640
01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:33.720
money on this.

1641
01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:35.920
Oh absolutely. I mean this scene in particular has a

1642
01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:37.760
really good chase to it because he goes inside this

1643
01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:40.039
sunken ship and the shark, of course, is too big

1644
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:41.760
to go in where he goes in the first time,

1645
01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:43.840
so the shark has to swim around, So he's swimming

1646
01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:46.279
through the ship. We see up above where the opening

1647
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:48.600
is that the shark is going over and then suddenly

1648
01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:50.279
is down into the ship. Quickly.

1649
01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:53.840
The shark is fast.

1650
01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:57.279
The shark is very fast, fast, damn fast. So he

1651
01:14:57.359 --> 01:14:59.560
is swimming through this sunken ship. The shark is gaining

1652
01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:01.239
on him. At one point he makes it to this

1653
01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:03.920
to this porthole door and opens it and gets out

1654
01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:05.680
right as the shark comes through, and he gets up

1655
01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:07.720
to the second tier of the ship and the shark

1656
01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:09.039
bursts through the fucking wall.

1657
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:14.279
Yeah. So the shark fast able to leap quite a

1658
01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:15.279
ways out of the water.

1659
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:15.960
Yeah.

1660
01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:17.720
Yeah, this shark has got a lot.

1661
01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:19.920
Going for And I will say that the wall burst

1662
01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:22.279
especially is a great shot of the shark, because there's

1663
01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:24.359
several times during this chase it does not look great.

1664
01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:27.000
But there were a few moments, especially when it's attacking

1665
01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:28.720
like the side of a boat. Oh yeah, it looks

1666
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:29.079
pretty good.

1667
01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:31.880
It looks pretty good. So he escapes the situation by

1668
01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.640
using his tank to burst and shoot to the top

1669
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:36.239
of the surface. They get him on the boat and

1670
01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:42.000
he is safe for now or now. So by this

1671
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:44.399
point they've had this celebration. There's a New Year's thing

1672
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:46.880
that we talked about where they've had everything going up

1673
01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:48.920
all the way to this festival that she has been

1674
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:51.479
crafting for this metal piece for so it's the ceremony.

1675
01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:54.760
And also through the movie, we get the idea that

1676
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:56.680
their marriage might be having some issues.

1677
01:15:57.720 --> 01:16:00.239
It's more I get the sense that it's not that

1678
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:03.439
their marriage is having any kind of unusual issues. It's

1679
01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:07.279
that Michael has become between losing his brother and seeing

1680
01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:10.960
the shark and dealing with his mother's grief, he's just

1681
01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:14.960
not himself. Yeah, because she Honestly, one of the best

1682
01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:19.920
bits of writing in this film maybe is is their relationship,

1683
01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:23.760
because she is very sweet and playful and overall supportive.

1684
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:26.760
And one thing I remember every time I watch this

1685
01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:30.199
movie is like they go to great lengths to make

1686
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:33.159
it very clear that Michael and his wife love each other.

1687
01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:36.840
Oh yeah, like they are in love. Yeah, they can't

1688
01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:39.600
keep their hands off each other in nearly any scene.

1689
01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:42.439
Well, and there's the whole scene where Michael catches HOGI

1690
01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:44.680
and his mom returning from the day out at the

1691
01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:46.680
first time, and she's like, come to bed, Like I

1692
01:16:46.720 --> 01:16:47.760
can make you forget about that.

1693
01:16:48.039 --> 01:16:50.800
She literally, while he's looking out the window, she puts

1694
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:52.720
her hands under the covers and then takes out a

1695
01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:55.039
pair of panties that she was wearing and flicks them

1696
01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:56.279
at him and they hit him in the chest. And

1697
01:16:56.279 --> 01:16:59.119
I was like, that's good writing, though, that's like fun

1698
01:16:59.159 --> 01:17:01.640
and funny, and you can see why he's a very

1699
01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:04.199
serious person. You can see how they would end up together.

1700
01:17:04.239 --> 01:17:06.600
Well, and then there's the the quote unquote fight scene

1701
01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:09.159
where they're in the garage and she's supposed to be

1702
01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:10.920
working on the project, and then they end up having

1703
01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:12.239
sex in the woodshed.

1704
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:14.680
Which is which is it's a metal shop, metal shop.

1705
01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:16.920
Excuse me, but honestly, that's one of my favorite like

1706
01:17:17.159 --> 01:17:20.880
bizarre choices is there's this metal shop yeah scene, Well, I.

1707
01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:23.119
Do like the shot. So the shot is focusing on

1708
01:17:23.159 --> 01:17:25.560
her our metal work that she's doing, which does look

1709
01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:27.479
a little bit like a shark jaw. So they do

1710
01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:30.359
have this really cool shot whereas they're going down on

1711
01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:32.520
each other. Yeah, they pan into the window and you

1712
01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:35.399
see like a shot of like the jaws around the water,

1713
01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:36.399
which is a pretty cool thing.

1714
01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:38.720
No, there's there's a lot of good shit in this movie.

1715
01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:42.039
There is, but also we don't want to over, you know,

1716
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:45.720
skip over too much. Michael Kaine's character and his relationship

1717
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:49.960
developing with the mother. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because they

1718
01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:54.199
are having this kind of reluctant, burgeoning romance. Yeah, because

1719
01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:57.399
she's on this island and happens to on the way

1720
01:17:57.439 --> 01:18:01.079
there get flown by HOGI meeting like the perfectly age

1721
01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:04.680
appropriate attractive man who apparently has.

1722
01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:08.079
No job, no job that we know of well, and.

1723
01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:10.600
I love that he was supposed to be a drug runner.

1724
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:11.199
Yes he is.

1725
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:14.760
And there's a part where he later on when he's flying.

1726
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:17.000
Michael.

1727
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:18.760
When he's flying them, they say like, you know, what

1728
01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:21.119
do you what do you fly on this place? As

1729
01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:24.079
I deliver a laundry and he just gives this smile

1730
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:27.560
like ah, And I love that that. It's just kind

1731
01:18:27.560 --> 01:18:30.560
of an undertone, is that like this, this rich white

1732
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:34.000
guy who flies planes on the island is doing illegal stuff,

1733
01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:36.600
is to make a living. But he and her love

1734
01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:39.560
affair is really adorable. It is. No, it really is

1735
01:18:39.760 --> 01:18:43.000
and super uncommon, especially for that era, that a woman,

1736
01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:46.880
like a much older woman is having a love affair

1737
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:48.880
with a man of the same age. And that's kind

1738
01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:51.520
of a major point of the film, is that she's

1739
01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:54.720
trying to move on and Hog he's trying to help her,

1740
01:18:55.319 --> 01:18:57.239
and I I've always found that to be a really

1741
01:18:57.239 --> 01:19:00.159
interesting choice. Again, there's so many odd choices.

1742
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:02.800
You develop Hogy's character more because of the fact that

1743
01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:05.039
Michael is inquiring about him to Jake and that scene

1744
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:06.840
where they're trying to tag the shark and everything right,

1745
01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:08.399
and you know he's even like, you know what, when

1746
01:19:08.399 --> 01:19:09.800
when did he arrive here? I don't know, man, he

1747
01:19:09.880 --> 01:19:11.279
just showed up one day. Well what do you know

1748
01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:13.840
about him? And I love that that Jake just flips

1749
01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:17.159
up his sunglasses and he's like, he's going after my mom.

1750
01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:17.439
Man.

1751
01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:20.760
Yeah, no, it's so good. It's so good. No. And

1752
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:22.479
and so I just want to make sure we didn't

1753
01:19:22.520 --> 01:19:25.479
skip over that because that's one of the best done elements.

1754
01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:29.319
They have great chemistry, both of them are great actors. Yeah,

1755
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:31.760
and you believe it. This this this thing, and it's

1756
01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:34.479
also the kind of the thing that keeps her from

1757
01:19:34.520 --> 01:19:36.920
being just this NonStop crazy wreck.

1758
01:19:37.039 --> 01:19:38.560
Well, and that also leads us up to the scene

1759
01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:40.760
that they copy from one where Michael's at the table

1760
01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:43.159
with thea and they start mimicking the things that Brody

1761
01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:45.680
and Sean did in the original movie with like you know,

1762
01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:47.039
the hands under the chin.

1763
01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:49.560
Faces miming each other.

1764
01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:52.640
Yeah, and that also like, uh, she sees that, and

1765
01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:54.119
that's kind of the point where she's like kind of

1766
01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:56.640
starting to relax. But also Michael knows that he was

1767
01:19:56.680 --> 01:19:58.760
just attacked by a shark. He's also had a nightmare

1768
01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:01.199
about it. Yeah, So, I mean, all this thing's going on,

1769
01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:03.439
so yeah, this leads us to this, to this event

1770
01:20:03.479 --> 01:20:06.399
that's going on where they're dedicating the statue. And while

1771
01:20:06.439 --> 01:20:08.479
they're at this event, there's this banana boat that's out

1772
01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:10.239
in the water with kids riding it and everything.

1773
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:12.560
It's more of a banana and like an inflated la

1774
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:14.279
raft that looks like a big banana.

1775
01:20:14.359 --> 01:20:16.720
Yeah, that's being towed by a boat. And Thea's like,

1776
01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:17.960
you know, can I go do that? And her mom

1777
01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:20.880
lets her go. So we've got Lorraine Gary and we've

1778
01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:24.479
got Michael's wife are at this event, along with Jake's wife.

1779
01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:27.319
But the guys are gone, yeah, and wouldn't you know

1780
01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:29.600
it that in the water just so happens to be

1781
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:30.199
the shark, and.

1782
01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:33.960
Of course she sees it. The mother sees it first's

1783
01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:36.359
the fan feels it too, yeah, and starts screaming the

1784
01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:39.000
you know, get in, you know, get out of the water.

1785
01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:41.880
And she's trying to warn everybody, and everybody doesn't know

1786
01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:44.880
how to react at first, because there just aren't big sharks,

1787
01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:46.039
no in this part of the world.

1788
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.039
No. And so the boat's going along and one of

1789
01:20:49.039 --> 01:20:51.199
my favorite shots again is the boat's going along, You're

1790
01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:53.000
seeing it ride and the kids are going up and down,

1791
01:20:53.399 --> 01:20:58.039
and the shark just pops up really high. Yeah, bearing

1792
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:00.560
the teeth bites a woman off off the front of

1793
01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:02.920
it and snacks on her as the boat keeps going on.

1794
01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:05.119
And the thing I love about it is the kids

1795
01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:07.560
are really afraid in this shot because they really were

1796
01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:09.199
in real life because that was the first time they'd

1797
01:21:09.199 --> 01:21:09.760
seen the shark.

1798
01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:13.039
And it's huge, I mean huge. Yeah, it's scary, and

1799
01:21:13.159 --> 01:21:16.640
it's a great moment. It's scary, scary, tense. Most of

1800
01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:19.119
the time, the shark looks great in these sequences, I think.

1801
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:20.680
Especially when they pull away. In the shot. There's a

1802
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:22.479
shot where it's got the woman in its mouth and

1803
01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:24.399
it's still up in the air and the boat's going away,

1804
01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:26.359
and it's like somebody's looking back on the boat and

1805
01:21:26.399 --> 01:21:28.640
the and the kids just see this shark just pulling

1806
01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:30.359
this woman down, and we see it as the audience

1807
01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:32.079
that she goes underwater, and that's the end of the

1808
01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:33.039
shark for that scene.

1809
01:21:33.119 --> 01:21:37.800
Yeah, and the panic that spreads. And now the secrets

1810
01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:41.439
are revealed, Yes, because Michael's gonna have some splaining to

1811
01:21:41.479 --> 01:21:43.239
do about how he knew there was a great white

1812
01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:45.359
shark out there, yeah, and kept it to himself.

1813
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:48.239
Yeah. So he comes home and of course they're consoling

1814
01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:50.000
THEA in the room, and that's when he's like, you know,

1815
01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:51.520
well what I missed? And she's like, there was a

1816
01:21:51.560 --> 01:21:54.359
shark attack. You know, THEA has got attacked. She's in

1817
01:21:54.760 --> 01:21:57.439
a panic, she's in shock right now. But while this

1818
01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:00.600
is going on, we didn't mention that l Brody has

1819
01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:04.199
already left on a boat. Yeah, at the beach at

1820
01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:07.239
this event. Once this happens at THEA, she steals the boat.

1821
01:22:07.560 --> 01:22:09.800
Yeah. And that's where I forgot how quick the movie

1822
01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:11.600
moves to the third act, Because once she has the boat,

1823
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:13.399
I'm like, oh man, we're going into fighting the shark.

1824
01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:13.680
Yeah.

1825
01:22:13.720 --> 01:22:16.039
Yeah, because she is. She is not the moment she

1826
01:22:16.119 --> 01:22:18.800
knows that her fears are legitimate. She's ready to face

1827
01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:21.520
some head on. Oh yeah, all by herself on a boat.

1828
01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:24.479
I believe her argument was she thought that it wanted her, Yes,

1829
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:27.199
so she was trying to get it away from everybody. Yeah,

1830
01:22:27.239 --> 01:22:28.439
and then what happens happened.

1831
01:22:28.439 --> 01:22:30.239
And keep in mind, once again, she doesn't know the

1832
01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:32.720
sharks being tracked. She doesn't know it's whereabouts. She doesn't

1833
01:22:32.720 --> 01:22:34.760
even know it's around, except for the fact that Michael

1834
01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:37.159
kept that. So she's going again by the instinct of

1835
01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:39.199
what we see in the movie, which is not Voodoo.

1836
01:22:39.239 --> 01:22:42.119
Well, I mean, at the very least, it's clearly following her.

1837
01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:45.039
And that's the thing is, even with the voodoo subplot removed, Yeah,

1838
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:49.159
there's still a telepathic connection between the shark and Ellen Brody.

1839
01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:52.359
And again, what a choice it is. It ends up

1840
01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:54.960
and the fact that they were like, well, we can't

1841
01:22:55.039 --> 01:22:57.239
leave all of those those pieces out because then it

1842
01:22:57.279 --> 01:23:00.600
really makes no sense at all. It's pretty it's prey nuts.

1843
01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:02.479
Well, and she is she has stolen a big ship

1844
01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:04.239
like this isn't a small boat like? She has stolen

1845
01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:06.479
a pretty big sailboat, yes, with a with a mast

1846
01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:10.039
on the front and everything. So Jake and Michael will

1847
01:23:10.039 --> 01:23:12.439
find out about this. He admits to Carla that the

1848
01:23:12.479 --> 01:23:14.479
shark was around, and she's like pissed at him, which

1849
01:23:14.560 --> 01:23:17.720
obviously Yeah, So that's when Michael and Jake decide that

1850
01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:19.359
they're going to go out. So they get on Jake's

1851
01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:21.119
motor boat and they just so happen to go past

1852
01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:22.960
Hogi and he's like, what's going on and they're like,

1853
01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:24.479
my mom stole a ship. He's like, well, you're never

1854
01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:26.039
going to make it there in that and he's like,

1855
01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:28.159
well you have a better idea. Cut to them flying

1856
01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:28.720
in his plane.

1857
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:33.000
Yeah, And this is where the movie just does the unwinds.

1858
01:23:33.079 --> 01:23:35.680
It just lets it all happen. So they're flying over

1859
01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:38.039
the ocean, they're talking to Hogy. They're trying to find

1860
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:40.560
this plane, this boat. They don't really know where they're going, No,

1861
01:23:40.640 --> 01:23:42.479
they're just looking looking for the boat. And then when

1862
01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:45.760
they find the boat, Hogi decides I'll do a water landing,

1863
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:48.399
yes on a plane not built for water landing Nope,

1864
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:53.680
Which does tell you how much Hogy values hers Yeah,

1865
01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:57.399
but also you know how little Hogi values his airplane, yes,

1866
01:23:57.479 --> 01:24:01.039
because he he gently skitters it on the ocean yep.

1867
01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:04.000
And then as it comes to a stop, it starts

1868
01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:07.279
to slowly sink. Yeah, and Van Peebles and Michael just

1869
01:24:07.439 --> 01:24:09.359
jumped the hell out trying to swim to the boat,

1870
01:24:09.560 --> 01:24:11.560
and Hogy stays at the plane.

1871
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:13.319
Well, they warn him to get away from the plane

1872
01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:15.640
because the shark will pick up on the electromagnetica. Right,

1873
01:24:16.079 --> 01:24:18.479
So yeah, they so Jake and Michael jump out into

1874
01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:20.399
the water. We see an underwater shot of them, so

1875
01:24:20.479 --> 01:24:22.840
we know the shark is close by. Obviously, because of course,

1876
01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:25.960
as the plane was coming in, Michael Kane even says,

1877
01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:27.399
is that what I think it is? Because the shark

1878
01:24:27.479 --> 01:24:29.600
is tailing the rain at this point, right, So, yeah,

1879
01:24:29.640 --> 01:24:31.880
they've landed in the water. They've gotten now, and Hogy's

1880
01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:33.840
telling them, you know, oh, keep swimming, I'll be fine.

1881
01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:35.880
The shark rises up out of the water and we

1882
01:24:35.920 --> 01:24:37.279
get the best line of the movie.

1883
01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:41.079
Oh shit, exactly like that. Yeah, no, because it's so

1884
01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:44.760
it's so perfect. He doesn't it's not huge, No, he's

1885
01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:47.680
just oh shit, oh shit, it's so good. And I remember, well,

1886
01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:49.079
that was one of my favorite jokes they did on

1887
01:24:49.119 --> 01:24:51.479
the movie crypt was that that they said, that was

1888
01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:54.560
the moment Michael Kane realized he was in the Jaws sequel.

1889
01:24:56.640 --> 01:24:59.359
So the shark latches onto the plane. We don't know

1890
01:24:59.399 --> 01:25:01.920
what's going on, Hogy, and we see Jake and Michael

1891
01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:03.880
have made it onto the boat, and that's when they're

1892
01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:06.079
down in the basement of the boat trying to figure

1893
01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:08.479
out what they're gonna do. Also, by this point, HOGI

1894
01:25:08.520 --> 01:25:10.399
does make it back to the boat, and that's another side.

1895
01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:13.119
They're going to make both another tracker that is also

1896
01:25:13.199 --> 01:25:15.319
a bomb and then one that'll shock it as well.

1897
01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:18.800
Right, I mean, they're basically trying to capture the shark,

1898
01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:21.079
and Van Peebles gives a line that I'd forgotten about

1899
01:25:21.079 --> 01:25:22.760
that is one of the best lines. Oh yeah, just

1900
01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:24.840
because he's when he's explaining how it will work, he says,

1901
01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:27.000
sharks spend half their life looking for food, in the

1902
01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:29.199
other half eating it. Yeah, And I was like, so

1903
01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:30.800
they'll eat whatever's in front of him, and I was like,

1904
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:32.720
that's such a great line. Half their life looking for

1905
01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:35.319
food in the other half eating it. Yeah, that's good shit.

1906
01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:37.960
So Jake obviously has to get this bomb into the

1907
01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:41.000
shark now, but they've turned the tracker into a shocker, and.

1908
01:25:40.960 --> 01:25:42.680
You may be thinking, if you haven't seen Jaws the

1909
01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:44.760
Revenge in a while, like that, we're skipping over a

1910
01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:46.079
lot of details. Nah, they're just kind of like and

1911
01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:46.680
it'll be a bomb.

1912
01:25:46.760 --> 01:25:48.920
Yeah. Yeah, they basically make that in about two minutes.

1913
01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:49.239
Yeah.

1914
01:25:49.279 --> 01:25:51.319
So yeah, he reverses the plarity to make the one

1915
01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:52.960
shock him, and now they're making a bomb to throw

1916
01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:54.960
into the shark to blow up the shark. So he

1917
01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:56.960
goes out to the to the tip of the mast

1918
01:25:57.039 --> 01:25:59.560
and waits for the shark to pop up, throws it in,

1919
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:01.960
loses his grip on the mask because the shark bikes

1920
01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:03.840
down on Jake and pulls him into the water. Yeah.

1921
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:06.840
Well, the shark hits the boat. Okay, it breaks it,

1922
01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:07.479
that's exactly.

1923
01:26:07.560 --> 01:26:08.039
Yeah, So he.

1924
01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:11.159
Doesn't just like whoopsie, dude. Yeah, he gets pulled in basically.

1925
01:26:11.359 --> 01:26:11.640
Yeah.

1926
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:16.800
And in the theatrical version, Van Peebles gets gnawed and

1927
01:26:16.840 --> 01:26:17.439
then he's gone.

1928
01:26:17.560 --> 01:26:19.239
Yeah, because we do still see the shot of him

1929
01:26:19.319 --> 01:26:21.680
dragged underwater. Bloody, Because I will say the one thing

1930
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:23.479
with the shark attacks in this movie, even though the

1931
01:26:23.640 --> 01:26:25.800
edits are crazy, they are pretty bloody.

1932
01:26:25.880 --> 01:26:26.800
Yeah, They're very bloody.

1933
01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:27.039
Yeah.

1934
01:26:27.079 --> 01:26:30.279
Yeah. Well and the original shot of Van Peoples dying

1935
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:32.000
in the original ending.

1936
01:26:31.880 --> 01:26:34.039
Yeah, is insane.

1937
01:26:34.239 --> 01:26:36.000
I mean basically, see I'm getting bitten half.

1938
01:26:36.079 --> 01:26:40.159
Yeah. So Van Peoples gets pulled under. That's when Michael

1939
01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:41.720
is like, okay, we got to finish this. So he

1940
01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:44.079
starts shark shocking the shark as the shark is now

1941
01:26:44.079 --> 01:26:47.079
swim back away, but it's coming back towards the boat. Also,

1942
01:26:47.159 --> 01:26:49.640
as this is happening. Ellen starts having flashbacks of the

1943
01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:55.479
of her son dying. Of what else is there? I mean,

1944
01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:57.239
there's a bunch of stuff. She starts having flashbacks on

1945
01:26:57.279 --> 01:26:59.840
the other movies, and that is when she decides that

1946
01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:01.840
Shark is coming up. They've been shocking at the shark

1947
01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:03.560
is also roaring at this point.

1948
01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:06.359
Which is my favorite. It starts roaring like a lion. Yes,

1949
01:27:06.439 --> 01:27:09.319
because as they're shocking, has been ah, like up out

1950
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:12.479
of the water. It's so silly but so fun. And

1951
01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:14.359
I want to mention because I mean, not that you're

1952
01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:16.359
one of the people who heavily critiques this part. Yeah,

1953
01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:18.600
but I've always heard people critique like she's remembering things

1954
01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:23.720
she didn't see well number one, Yeah, yes, but it's

1955
01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:26.960
it's because they're telling us the story. Like I'm sure

1956
01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:29.720
that her husband told her how he beat the one

1957
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:32.640
shark now the sun, you know, screaming for help and stuff.

1958
01:27:32.640 --> 01:27:36.239
That's just that's either just trauma, well that's either the

1959
01:27:36.279 --> 01:27:39.039
telepathic connection, yeah, which I don't think it is in

1960
01:27:39.079 --> 01:27:41.159
this case specifically, I don't think it is. But more

1961
01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:44.439
so it's her her imagining of what had happened, because

1962
01:27:44.439 --> 01:27:46.760
she knows that he died horribly and the shark killed him. Yeah,

1963
01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:49.279
so would it be that shocking for her to have

1964
01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:51.880
a mental image that would be relatively accurate? I mean, like,

1965
01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:53.359
what do they want? You know what?

1966
01:27:53.479 --> 01:27:54.800
I do also want to add there was one thing

1967
01:27:54.800 --> 01:27:56.439
we did skip over that I do love, which is

1968
01:27:56.439 --> 01:27:58.239
the shot as Hogi and the guys are landing, the

1969
01:27:58.279 --> 01:28:00.359
shark does jump up at Ellen and she is just

1970
01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:01.279
barely missed by it.

1971
01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:01.520
Yeah.

1972
01:28:01.560 --> 01:28:04.640
Yeah, no, it's he's he's straw dogging that Yeah, that

1973
01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:06.399
that boat right now, trying to get in there.

1974
01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:08.800
So yeah, so they are coming right towards the shark.

1975
01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:11.239
Ellen's having all these flashbacks. We cut back to Roy

1976
01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:13.880
Schreider with smile you said, of a bitch. The mask

1977
01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:16.600
gets jammed into the shark as it's shocked one final time.

1978
01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:19.720
Well, first, the shark pulls a Jesus Oh, he stands up.

1979
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:23.720
The mail leaps right up. Yeah, find legs. It doesn't

1980
01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:26.760
have any legs, doesn't yet. That was gonna be Jaws five.

1981
01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:29.720
The mutation that's basically the creature is Jaws with legs.

1982
01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:33.439
I damn. Yeah, but he like leaps up, he's like

1983
01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:35.840
out of the water, and then she rams the mast

1984
01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:39.359
into the center. Yep, and for reasons, for reasons, the

1985
01:28:39.399 --> 01:28:44.680
shark just friggin explodes explodes. It explodes, And this is

1986
01:28:44.760 --> 01:28:47.279
one of the best points to frame by frame because

1987
01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:51.119
when it explodes. Yes, you see about five different shots

1988
01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:56.199
of miniature sharks, minature shark that are probably made out

1989
01:28:56.239 --> 01:28:59.479
of like fit like fish and fake blood. I would say, Clay,

1990
01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:01.399
I wouldn't know, because they're bloody.

1991
01:29:01.399 --> 01:29:02.479
I mean they're bloody.

1992
01:29:02.560 --> 01:29:03.720
It looked to me like it was made out of

1993
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:05.800
like that, they made it out of like salmon could

1994
01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:09.319
be and they're like being exploded by like firecrackers. If

1995
01:29:09.319 --> 01:29:11.840
you're watching frame by frame by frame, it is so

1996
01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:15.560
clear that like it's just like a tiny fake shark boom. Yeah,

1997
01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:17.880
it's really really ridiculous. It is.

1998
01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:20.560
If you literally go to Google right now and type

1999
01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:22.880
in Jaws of the Revenge ending, you will see them.

2000
01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:25.199
They will pop up in your images. Yeah, because you

2001
01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:27.479
will be like, that can't be it. That's it.

2002
01:29:27.479 --> 01:29:29.560
It is fascinating. It makes me wonder because they had

2003
01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:31.920
to have been the studio. Yeah, the studio had well,

2004
01:29:31.960 --> 01:29:33.640
I mean the whole ending, that whole ending was the

2005
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:35.760
studio anyway, because the original ending was.

2006
01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:37.439
Very different well, the original ending, so we'll just go

2007
01:29:37.439 --> 01:29:39.199
ahead and say it now. The original ending is she

2008
01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:42.119
impales the shark. The shark is just bleeding out of

2009
01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:44.439
its mouth in every direction, and then it just sinks

2010
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:46.159
with the mast inside, to the bottom of the water,

2011
01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:49.720
and Jake is of course dead in the In this version,

2012
01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:54.920
Jake swims up from the surface. He's alive, apparently floating. Yeah.

2013
01:29:55.279 --> 01:29:57.560
And also we should point out that this this ending

2014
01:29:57.720 --> 01:30:00.920
was shot on the Universal lot in a tiny little pool.

2015
01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:04.560
I mean tiny big but not huge.

2016
01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:07.960
Yeah. Yeah, And so the water had to be dyed blue.

2017
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:09.760
Yeah. And there are a few little spots like when

2018
01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:11.560
Michael Kane first gets on the boat, you could see

2019
01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:14.560
a shirt is dyed blue lightly. Yes, it dyed blue

2020
01:30:14.640 --> 01:30:16.720
because they're trying to match the Bahamas water. Yep.

2021
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:19.159
And also if you look in the back, especially towards

2022
01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:20.880
after the shark has died, if you are looking in

2023
01:30:20.920 --> 01:30:22.800
the back of these shots while they're in the water,

2024
01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:25.199
you can see the water splashing against the back of

2025
01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:25.600
the back.

2026
01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:28.079
And the wide shots were an odd choice because the

2027
01:30:28.119 --> 01:30:31.880
sky is oddly not exposed very brightly. Nope, because it's

2028
01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:35.079
a painting yep. So it is yeah, there are a

2029
01:30:35.079 --> 01:30:37.720
few points where you really tell and all I could

2030
01:30:37.720 --> 01:30:40.439
think was, like, why would you show any wide shots? Yeah?

2031
01:30:40.479 --> 01:30:43.199
That but it Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty hilarious. Yeah.

2032
01:30:43.279 --> 01:30:46.319
So, so the shark is dead. Everybody is okay for

2033
01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:48.479
the most part at this point, and the final shot

2034
01:30:48.640 --> 01:30:52.239
is Ellen is now flying back with Hogi as they leave,

2035
01:30:52.720 --> 01:30:54.520
they leave the Bahamas to go back to Amity.

2036
01:30:54.840 --> 01:30:55.119
Yep.

2037
01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:59.520
And that is nineteen eighty seven's Jaws The Revenge.

2038
01:30:59.159 --> 01:31:02.880
The finest of the Jaws films. The amount, I'm sorry,

2039
01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:06.439
the amount of entertainment value is so high on this movie. Yeah,

2040
01:31:07.079 --> 01:31:09.039
you can't watch it and not have a good time

2041
01:31:09.119 --> 01:31:12.159
unless you're actively trying to have a bad time.

2042
01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:15.119
Yeah, I mean it is the movie Jaws The Revenge

2043
01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:17.439
is is a sequel to a Tea And I know

2044
01:31:17.479 --> 01:31:18.880
I say that a lot on the show, but I mean,

2045
01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:20.920
this is exactly what you get with a sequel. You

2046
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:23.720
get an expansion on certain characters if if you are

2047
01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:26.479
lucky enough, you may just get new characters, and our

2048
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:28.800
and our villain's usually in a new spot or returning

2049
01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:30.560
to the new spot with new intentions. But I mean,

2050
01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:32.680
this is this is the epitome of a sequel. It's

2051
01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:34.479
just not a very well done one.

2052
01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:37.720
No no, I mean, well, well that's the thing. Some

2053
01:31:37.800 --> 01:31:39.840
of it is, some of it is. That's the weirdest part,

2054
01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:42.680
is I really do I really would be curious to

2055
01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:45.479
see a director's cut of the whole film same because

2056
01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:48.239
it had to have been more seamless.

2057
01:31:48.319 --> 01:31:50.560
There's no no deleted scenes I have ever been released,

2058
01:31:50.600 --> 01:31:53.439
except for the ending, of course. There is. Really the

2059
01:31:53.479 --> 01:31:55.840
only thing. The only behind the scenes you can find

2060
01:31:56.319 --> 01:31:58.119
is currently on YouTube is a making of that was

2061
01:31:58.119 --> 01:32:00.239
a TV special that's like about a half hour, I

2062
01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:02.640
want to say. Other than that, nothing else has been

2063
01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:05.800
released on these editions, So you're left with the novel,

2064
01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:07.119
which I'll get to here in a second. So what

2065
01:32:07.159 --> 01:32:09.039
do you want to guess the budget was for Jaws?

2066
01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:09.720
The rue It was high.

2067
01:32:09.720 --> 01:32:12.279
It was like twenty twenty three, twenty three, you know what.

2068
01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:14.439
Honestly it was probably twenty and then the three million

2069
01:32:14.439 --> 01:32:18.479
to pay for Michael Kine and what's her lorrange, Gary, Lorraine, Gary,

2070
01:32:18.479 --> 01:32:20.800
thank you? It's probably that was probably three was tacked

2071
01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:21.399
on to pay them.

2072
01:32:21.479 --> 01:32:25.279
So opening weekend it makes seven million dollars, okay, grossing

2073
01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:29.359
in the US twenty million and grossing worldwide fifty one million.

2074
01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.640
Does that tote all together everything? Fifty one? Yeah, so

2075
01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:34.239
it was it was a somewhat of a hit.

2076
01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:38.079
Someone of a hit. Yeah. Shot in Edgartown, Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts,

2077
01:32:38.119 --> 01:32:40.640
and the Bahamas as well as the Universal backlot. Shot

2078
01:32:40.720 --> 01:32:43.840
in nine months, So from start to finish nine months

2079
01:32:43.880 --> 01:32:44.479
is this production?

2080
01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:46.520
And they only had Hogi for two weeks, oh.

2081
01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:49.119
Point for two weeks, mostly set in the Bahamas. The

2082
01:32:49.119 --> 01:32:51.039
bulk of the movie was filmed on the north shore

2083
01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:54.760
of Ohio, Hawaii, near Turtle Bay and on northeast side

2084
01:32:54.760 --> 01:32:55.319
of the island.

2085
01:32:55.399 --> 01:32:57.199
Oh wow, okay, so it was shot in Hawaii.

2086
01:32:57.279 --> 01:33:00.159
Nice the first Universal Pictures film to be shot in

2087
01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:02.000
Super thirty five format.

2088
01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:06.560
Really, yes, really, well, it did look great. Have we

2089
01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:08.600
watched the Forecat Yeah, yeah, and it looked it looked

2090
01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:11.279
really good at Super first one. Is that's what surprising Wars.

2091
01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:14.760
That's the first Super thirty five. Isn't that big of

2092
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:18.079
a deal. Yeah, necessarily, I mean we could talk about

2093
01:33:18.279 --> 01:33:19.479
I mean, no, it is. I mean it's a little

2094
01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:22.279
bit higher resolution, but yeah, it's still thirty five films.

2095
01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:24.920
Michael Kane accepted his role after seeing only the first

2096
01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:28.159
line of the script, which was fade in Hawaii. Kan

2097
01:33:28.239 --> 01:33:30.279
had wanted to shoot a movie in Hawaii for a while.

2098
01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:33.359
According to director Joseph Sargent, the film had gone through

2099
01:33:33.439 --> 01:33:35.880
so many story pitches that once they were settled on

2100
01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:40.359
the preposterous idea of the shark actually seeking revenge on

2101
01:33:40.399 --> 01:33:43.199
the Brody family, they were just so burned out creatively

2102
01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:45.760
that being given the go ahead from Universal made everyone

2103
01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:46.640
happy and excited.

2104
01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:47.439
That sounds right.

2105
01:33:47.520 --> 01:33:50.239
Everyone was aware of how ridiculous the concept was, but

2106
01:33:50.359 --> 01:33:52.800
though but thought there was a chance of a fair

2107
01:33:52.920 --> 01:33:54.199
chance of making it to the screen.

2108
01:33:54.640 --> 01:33:57.039
I mean, the whole fact that it's this time it's

2109
01:33:57.039 --> 01:33:59.319
personal alone is very funny.

2110
01:33:59.680 --> 01:34:02.880
Pretty. Director Joseph Sargent briefly looked into the possibility of

2111
01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:05.479
producing the movie in three D and contacted the company

2112
01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:07.840
that had applied the cameras for Jaws three D. However,

2113
01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:10.840
it told Sergeant that it could guarantee the cameras would

2114
01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:13.760
be reliable in the climate of the Bahamas, so the

2115
01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:14.479
idea was.

2116
01:34:14.439 --> 01:34:17.000
Scrapped, well, the climate of Hawaii, I guess in reality,

2117
01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:19.760
but good that they didn't try to do it in

2118
01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:21.520
three D. All, how would you do it again in

2119
01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:22.000
three D.

2120
01:34:22.279 --> 01:34:26.079
No. No, this allegedly cost between twenty three to thirty million.

2121
01:34:26.119 --> 01:34:28.640
One of the most expensive movies of nineteen eighty seven.

2122
01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:32.159
That I believe. Yeah, the only really quick.

2123
01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:34.279
Oh yeah, the only Jaws movie that doesn't take place

2124
01:34:34.279 --> 01:34:37.000
in summertime. Jaws nineteen seventy five took place around fourth

2125
01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:39.439
of July, Jaws two took place in June, Jaws three

2126
01:34:39.479 --> 01:34:41.560
took place at some point in summertime, and this movie

2127
01:34:41.560 --> 01:34:42.840
takes place around Christmas and.

2128
01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:45.199
New Year's Yeah, January baby.

2129
01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:48.840
Michael Kaine said. One on ju mean Michael Kaine said,

2130
01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:51.399
won an oscar, built a house, and had a great holiday.

2131
01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:53.920
Not bad for a flop movie. He was paid one

2132
01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:56.680
point five million for seven days work in the Bahamas,

2133
01:34:57.000 --> 01:34:58.960
and the schedule was so tight that the producers were

2134
01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:01.560
unable to spare him so he could attend the Academy Awards,

2135
01:35:01.720 --> 01:35:03.319
and he went on to win the Best Actor in

2136
01:35:03.319 --> 01:35:06.000
Supporting Role for Hannah and Her Sisters in nineteen.

2137
01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:06.439
Eighty He did.

2138
01:35:08.199 --> 01:35:10.119
You can find recorded video.

2139
01:35:10.239 --> 01:35:12.159
Oh it's so funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2140
01:35:12.199 --> 01:35:14.800
The shark's infamous roar during the climax actually comes from

2141
01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:18.119
a Tom and Jerry cartoon called the Milky Waif. Reportedly,

2142
01:35:18.199 --> 01:35:20.399
this was actually done because the sound editor refused to

2143
01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:22.399
make it original sound effects, thinking that the idea of

2144
01:35:22.439 --> 01:35:26.960
the shark roaring was ridiculous. Wow, yeah, jeez. The water

2145
01:35:27.039 --> 01:35:28.800
in the tank where the climax was shot was filled

2146
01:35:28.840 --> 01:35:31.159
with blue dye, which turned Michael Kine and the rangary's

2147
01:35:31.199 --> 01:35:31.960
hair blue.

2148
01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:34.800
Well they both were blonde, so well he was gray.

2149
01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:35.279
But yeah.

2150
01:35:35.319 --> 01:35:37.720
According to Joseph Sergeant, the Banana boat sequence was the

2151
01:35:37.720 --> 01:35:40.239
most difficult sequence to shoot, with involvement of children and

2152
01:35:40.239 --> 01:35:42.960
adults both being both seeing the shark for the first time,

2153
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:46.800
plus coordinating the technological logistics of the sea with the

2154
01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:49.159
horror of the attack. Sergeant was quoted as saying he

2155
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:52.000
felt as though the scene was like a visual ballet.

2156
01:35:52.680 --> 01:35:55.600
I could see that, I mean kids, special effects, water. Yeah,

2157
01:35:55.600 --> 01:35:56.880
it's a lot to manage.

2158
01:35:57.239 --> 01:36:00.680
Roy Schreider was offered a cameo but declined, Statington himself

2159
01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:03.279
could not get me to do Jaws Part four. Reportedly,

2160
01:36:03.319 --> 01:36:05.520
if Schider had accepted the bit part, the shark would

2161
01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:07.560
have been would have killed his character at the start

2162
01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:10.079
of the movie rather than Brody's son Sean. The end

2163
01:36:10.119 --> 01:36:12.800
result was shier in this movie through archive footage from

2164
01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:15.119
Jaws that was inserted during some scenes.

2165
01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:18.279
That I could see not wanting to be the opening death. Yeah,

2166
01:36:18.399 --> 01:36:20.760
although also they were probably like, we can't give another

2167
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:23.119
guy a million dollars, damn it.

2168
01:36:23.239 --> 01:36:25.000
I guess it would depend on how the death was.

2169
01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:28.159
No, it would just be killing off the main character

2170
01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:31.399
from the original movie in part four. Yeah, I mean

2171
01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:34.119
Chider was was at a point in his career where

2172
01:36:34.119 --> 01:36:35.000
he didn't have to say yeah.

2173
01:36:35.039 --> 01:36:36.800
Imagine though, if he pulled the wood from the Orca

2174
01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:38.840
off the buoy and that was his demise though.

2175
01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:41.399
That would have been amazing. That would have been so

2176
01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:43.199
cool though, because he could have like pulled the wood

2177
01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:44.720
and then looked at it and see Orca on him

2178
01:36:44.920 --> 01:36:47.000
like duh du d d and then that would have

2179
01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:47.520
been so cool.

2180
01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:47.760
Yep.

2181
01:36:48.039 --> 01:36:49.760
No, I wish he had done it. Yeah, but I

2182
01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:50.560
see why he didn't.

2183
01:36:51.119 --> 01:36:53.439
Lorrange Gary briefly came out of retirement to reprise the

2184
01:36:53.520 --> 01:36:55.560
role of Ellen Brody. This film stands as her final

2185
01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:56.640
acting role to date.

2186
01:36:57.039 --> 01:36:59.199
Damn and she didn't. She passed away in like twenty

2187
01:36:59.279 --> 01:37:01.399
nineteen or something. Yeah, she was around for a long time.

2188
01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:03.600
Murray Hamilton was asked to reprise his role as the

2189
01:37:03.640 --> 01:37:05.840
mayor in a short appearance at the beginning of the movie. However,

2190
01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:07.880
he died of cancer before filming had started.

2191
01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:10.800
Damn, that would have been so many Easter eggs.

2192
01:37:10.840 --> 01:37:11.000
Man.

2193
01:37:11.680 --> 01:37:14.439
The nes video game Jaws, published in nineteen eighty seven

2194
01:37:14.439 --> 01:37:17.199
by LGN, was originally titled Jaws the Revenge. The object

2195
01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:18.640
of the game was to stab the shark with the

2196
01:37:18.640 --> 01:37:20.800
bow of the player's boat, much like the original uncut

2197
01:37:20.880 --> 01:37:23.159
ending of this movie. I've always thought that when playing

2198
01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:24.720
the game, it just looked exactly.

2199
01:37:24.399 --> 01:37:26.239
When they used the cover art from Jaws the Revenge.

2200
01:37:26.279 --> 01:37:27.399
Even it just as Jaws.

2201
01:37:27.479 --> 01:37:30.800
Yeah. The shark's head exploding is explained when Jake throws

2202
01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:34.039
an explosive that's powered by electrical impulses into the shark

2203
01:37:34.119 --> 01:37:36.000
before he is grabbed by the shark and taken under

2204
01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:38.439
the water. Then later, when the shark is impaled by

2205
01:37:38.439 --> 01:37:40.560
the broken bow spirit in the exact spot where the

2206
01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:43.199
bomb is, it ignites the bomb, which causes the shark

2207
01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:46.399
to have its explosive demise. The scene of the sinking

2208
01:37:46.439 --> 01:37:48.479
shark corpse without its head is the same shot from

2209
01:37:48.479 --> 01:37:50.600
the end of the first movie. After Martin Brody shoots

2210
01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:51.000
the tank.

2211
01:37:51.079 --> 01:37:54.520
Yep, that's something I always noticed that. That's the shark

2212
01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:57.159
dying in part one, sinking to the bottom of the hotion.

2213
01:37:57.439 --> 01:37:59.520
The movie has the lowest body count of the series,

2214
01:37:59.560 --> 01:38:01.960
with a total of three victims depending on which version

2215
01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:04.520
you watch, Sean Brody, Margaret's mother on the Banana boat,

2216
01:38:04.560 --> 01:38:06.640
and Jake in the original theatrical cut of the movie.

2217
01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:09.880
Throughout the four movies, there were nineteen deaths shown or implied.

2218
01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.800
There were five in Jaws, seven in Jaws to five

2219
01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:15.479
in Jaws three and three two or three in this movie.

2220
01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:17.880
Yeah, yeah, though there's not a lot of shark killing

2221
01:38:18.680 --> 01:38:20.119
killings in this film, not at all.

2222
01:38:20.199 --> 01:38:23.279
A crucial subplot involved Hogy smuggling drugs onto the island.

2223
01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:25.640
The scenes were shot and then deleted during post production

2224
01:38:25.720 --> 01:38:28.159
because it took away from the main premise involving the shark.

2225
01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:29.880
It's fully detailed in the novelization.

2226
01:38:30.359 --> 01:38:31.920
Well, and it would, it would, It would be a

2227
01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:32.640
lot to follow.

2228
01:38:33.279 --> 01:38:36.159
In the novelization, based on the original script by Hank Cerels,

2229
01:38:36.199 --> 01:38:39.319
included many scenes and subplots that were ultimately removed. Some

2230
01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:41.960
of the excise material includes the discovery of Sean Brody

2231
01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:45.800
by Ambiti police department, THEA being hypnotized and almost wandering

2232
01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:47.680
into the water at night, where the shark waits, the

2233
01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:51.000
death of a windsurfer, a humorous scene involving a drunken

2234
01:38:51.039 --> 01:38:54.279
retired newscaster and the shark, a drive by shooting where

2235
01:38:54.279 --> 01:38:57.680
Brody's are nearly injured, and a foot pursuit what Mike's

2236
01:38:57.720 --> 01:39:01.199
secrecy of shark tales strain on his marriage. He also

2237
01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:04.520
retains monitoring a device in the bedroom. When Carla has

2238
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:06.479
her unveiling, Mike goes to a bar and he and

2239
01:39:06.520 --> 01:39:08.960
Carla argue. She then mentions that she shut off the

2240
01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:12.079
monitoring device, not knowing what it does, because she believed

2241
01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:14.840
Mike needed to sleep. Okay, It's only then they realize

2242
01:39:14.920 --> 01:39:17.640
THEA may be in danger on the Banana boat. Deleted

2243
01:39:17.720 --> 01:39:20.760
characters include an island gangster who befriends Ellen Brody, who

2244
01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:24.319
is ultimately killed by the shark, Hogy's law enforcement partner,

2245
01:39:24.359 --> 01:39:28.439
and Papa Jacques, a voodoo doctor. Of course. In the novel,

2246
01:39:28.439 --> 01:39:30.880
Papa Jacques is a local man to whom the Islanders

2247
01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:33.720
turn for advice and guidance. Mike Brody does not like him,

2248
01:39:33.760 --> 01:39:36.600
as he believes he exploits the islanders, including his assistance.

2249
01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:39.680
After an altercation with Mike, Papa Jacques what leads to

2250
01:39:39.720 --> 01:39:42.439
THEA walking outside towards the water in a zombie like trance.

2251
01:39:42.760 --> 01:39:45.119
Several segments also take place from the shark's point of view,

2252
01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:47.199
and it is revealed that the shark is actually upon

2253
01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:49.920
and can't understand the force driving where it needs to go.

2254
01:39:50.920 --> 01:39:53.479
Oh wait, let me rephrase that. Papa Jaques summons a

2255
01:39:53.479 --> 01:39:55.800
shtark to do his bidding. He also has Thea's pale

2256
01:39:55.880 --> 01:39:57.680
stolen so he can curse it. This is what leads

2257
01:39:57.680 --> 01:39:58.439
her walking outside.

2258
01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:00.680
Okay, gotcha? Well, and I want to say hey, speaking

2259
01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:02.960
of remember I keep saying the most interesting thing about

2260
01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:05.640
this film is the choices that were made. Yeah, if

2261
01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:09.119
you were making a Jaws sequel and you just wanted

2262
01:40:09.119 --> 01:40:11.439
to get it done, and you wanted the cheap thrills,

2263
01:40:11.680 --> 01:40:14.600
would you amp the body count way up and instead

2264
01:40:14.680 --> 01:40:18.159
it ends up way down? Yeah? Another strange choice.

2265
01:40:18.199 --> 01:40:21.079
It is no very strange choice. The original script features

2266
01:40:21.119 --> 01:40:23.800
a cameo for marine biologist Matt Hooper, and Hooper seen

2267
01:40:23.880 --> 01:40:25.680
he calls the Brody's and is greeted on the phone

2268
01:40:25.680 --> 01:40:28.079
by thea who knows him as Uncle Matt. Hooper is

2269
01:40:28.159 --> 01:40:30.520
established as being close to Michael and Carla, who calls

2270
01:40:30.560 --> 01:40:32.840
him my second favorite marine biologist, and he gives them

2271
01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:36.239
his condolences about Sean's death. Hooper and Michael discussed their careers,

2272
01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:39.000
the late Martin Brody and Hooper's once spending Christmas with

2273
01:40:39.039 --> 01:40:41.680
the family with Martin dressed as Santa Claus. The scene

2274
01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:43.640
ends when Michael heads off to summon Ellen to the

2275
01:40:43.640 --> 01:40:46.319
phone to talk to Hooper Ah she had an affair

2276
01:40:46.359 --> 01:40:49.920
with in the book Whoops. The only Jaws sequel not

2277
01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:52.359
to be enumerated, the reason being that this film is

2278
01:40:52.399 --> 01:40:55.439
retroactively the third film. Universal was so disappointed by Jaws

2279
01:40:55.439 --> 01:40:57.760
three D critical and box office response that the film

2280
01:40:57.840 --> 01:41:01.000
was now noncanonical to the third film. This is reinforced

2281
01:41:01.039 --> 01:41:02.880
by the fact an ad that went out in newspaper

2282
01:41:02.960 --> 01:41:06.319
saying see the final installment of the Jaws trilogy. However,

2283
01:41:06.359 --> 01:41:08.880
critics and audiences were less than receptive to this film,

2284
01:41:08.920 --> 01:41:11.479
which led to this being the final film in the franchise.

2285
01:41:11.880 --> 01:41:15.560
Damn, I can't said the trilogy. That's hard, that's hard. Yeah.

2286
01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:18.760
And finally, this movie is listed amongst the hundred most

2287
01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:21.760
enjoyably bad movies ever made in John Wilson's book, The

2288
01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:23.399
Official Razzie Movie Guide.

2289
01:41:23.880 --> 01:41:27.159
I mean I would have to agree. I mean it transcends.

2290
01:41:27.159 --> 01:41:27.680
Oh it does.

2291
01:41:28.119 --> 01:41:30.479
So before we get to our final thoughts, should be

2292
01:41:30.520 --> 01:41:32.079
checking with our buddies to see what they thought of

2293
01:41:32.119 --> 01:41:32.520
the movie.

2294
01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:32.880
Uh.

2295
01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:35.439
If by buddies you mean Ciskel and Ebert, I do.

2296
01:41:35.560 --> 01:41:38.560
I suppose, so we'll see what they have to say.

2297
01:41:38.600 --> 01:41:39.359
I'm sure they loved it.

2298
01:41:39.359 --> 01:41:42.319
Oh yeah, great, right, Shark Attacks again and Jaws the

2299
01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:45.520
Revenge the fourth movie just when you thought it was

2300
01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:47.520
safe to go back in the theater. And I'm Roger

2301
01:41:47.600 --> 01:41:49.760
Even of the Chicago Sun Times. That's one of the

2302
01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:51.640
four movies we'll review this week. And the question I

2303
01:41:51.720 --> 01:41:54.399
always have is when you see the shark at the

2304
01:41:54.439 --> 01:41:56.520
top of the water, you only see its fin right now.

2305
01:41:56.840 --> 01:41:58.640
And yet when you get the shark's point of view,

2306
01:41:58.760 --> 01:42:00.640
like we just sucking at the paper, it's like its

2307
01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:01.199
eyes are.

2308
01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:01.960
Above the water too.

2309
01:42:02.039 --> 01:42:05.319
The logical error among many logical errors.

2310
01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:09.399
Wait, like what I'm gonna need. I'm gonna need a

2311
01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:12.159
signed Affid David with all the list of the list

2312
01:42:12.199 --> 01:42:13.399
of logical errors.

2313
01:42:13.439 --> 01:42:15.720
Come on you've got that right. We saw the same movie.

2314
01:42:15.760 --> 01:42:19.119
I'm Gene Cisco. All the major players are gone from

2315
01:42:19.159 --> 01:42:22.439
Jaws the Revenge except Roy Scheider's wife, and her name

2316
01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:25.279
is now just a trivia question. Ellen Brody played by

2317
01:42:25.359 --> 01:42:28.680
Lorraine Gary, wife of the boss of mc A. Universal Pictures,

2318
01:42:28.680 --> 01:42:31.760
which happens to make the Jaws movies. Three D failed

2319
01:42:31.800 --> 01:42:33.760
to say the series the last time out. This time

2320
01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:36.680
an idiotic script sinks the whole show. The premise, Ellen

2321
01:42:36.760 --> 01:42:40.840
Brody is a witch. They didn't like it enough sense

2322
01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:42.520
the public.

2323
01:42:42.640 --> 01:42:43.079
I hated.

2324
01:42:43.159 --> 01:42:46.199
Wife of the film is convinced that white Shark is

2325
01:42:46.199 --> 01:42:48.199
a grudge against her family. Now you could just hear

2326
01:42:48.239 --> 01:42:53.520
those sharks talking. That's the last thing I do. I

2327
01:42:53.520 --> 01:42:54.079
guess that's what.

2328
01:42:54.039 --> 01:42:55.880
They say, realistic shark talking.

2329
01:42:56.880 --> 01:42:59.560
Interesting than the movie anyway. Here's with Ellen Brody's fear

2330
01:43:00.119 --> 01:43:02.800
is very early in the picture, so veteran moviegoers should

2331
01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:03.680
be able to figure it out.

2332
01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:08.000
Well, that's a that's a shark doing some shark stuff.

2333
01:43:08.840 --> 01:43:10.000
There's no teeth or anything.

2334
01:43:11.960 --> 01:43:12.760
It's for television.

2335
01:43:13.960 --> 01:43:17.199
Like they say, I'm sad and I hate when that happens.

2336
01:43:17.239 --> 01:43:20.840
A dream sequence. People were growing in the theater when

2337
01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:21.439
that happened.

2338
01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:23.039
I mean, I want to go up, so they're just

2339
01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:24.199
gonna have Ellen Brody get.

2340
01:43:24.079 --> 01:43:27.039
Attacked in the next sequence.

2341
01:43:27.119 --> 01:43:31.399
Another there are quite a few dreams. They lean heavy

2342
01:43:31.520 --> 01:43:31.920
in the movie.

2343
01:43:32.239 --> 01:43:35.920
If there's anything that annoys an audience, it's the dream sequence.

2344
01:43:36.239 --> 01:43:39.279
I hate that stunt. It's old, it's cheap, it's a

2345
01:43:39.359 --> 01:43:42.119
lousy gimmick, and I wish they would stop doing it.

2346
01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:44.800
And then that describes a whole movie. You want to

2347
01:43:44.800 --> 01:43:47.159
probably see what the shark looks like. They show more

2348
01:43:47.199 --> 01:43:49.399
of it this time, and by showing more of it

2349
01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:51.800
actually at the end it sort of looks fake.

2350
01:43:52.119 --> 01:43:55.239
As for the confrontation, Michael Caine was pretty good.

2351
01:43:55.720 --> 01:43:56.159
I love it.

2352
01:43:56.359 --> 01:43:58.359
One of her sons the others dead and one of

2353
01:43:58.399 --> 01:44:00.640
his friends and trying to drive the shock crazy by

2354
01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:03.720
first making a swallow an electronic beeper box death by noise.

2355
01:44:04.520 --> 01:44:07.119
It's kind of funny because Universe Studios use the banana

2356
01:44:07.119 --> 01:44:10.039
boat attack in a lot of their ads for the.

2357
01:44:09.520 --> 01:44:12.560
For the part, I mean, it was a good attack scene.

2358
01:44:12.640 --> 01:44:18.359
It was yeah, and I think Cis Leniver it might

2359
01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:21.640
have been hitting the sau since this time around, because

2360
01:44:21.640 --> 01:44:24.039
I mean, come on, like it would have been I

2361
01:44:24.039 --> 01:44:25.880
would be so happy if one of them just loved it.

2362
01:44:25.920 --> 01:44:26.800
I mean, that would be great.

2363
01:44:26.800 --> 01:44:27.399
But then he happened.

2364
01:44:27.479 --> 01:44:29.399
This movie is so badly made that the death of

2365
01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:31.560
the Shock isn't even set up well. There's a key

2366
01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:33.600
shot missing so that we don't even get the whole picture.

2367
01:44:33.640 --> 01:44:36.720
We walk out of the theater very frustrated, and that

2368
01:44:36.800 --> 01:44:39.439
last scene is preceded by one of the most glaring

2369
01:44:39.560 --> 01:44:42.840
errors in recent movie history. Michael Caine has been in

2370
01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:46.000
the water, has swimm to safety onto the boat. Very

2371
01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:48.760
next scene, his shirt is as dry as it had

2372
01:44:48.800 --> 01:44:50.000
just been freshly.

2373
01:44:49.640 --> 01:44:51.920
Laundered, probably because it was blue. This is the end of.

2374
01:44:51.920 --> 01:44:55.520
The Jaws series. The first film was thrilling and well acted.

2375
01:44:55.880 --> 01:44:57.520
The rest have been trash.

2376
01:44:57.560 --> 01:44:57.880
Wow.

2377
01:44:59.079 --> 01:45:02.399
Actually over the hates too. He hates to dry.

2378
01:45:02.439 --> 01:45:04.439
I'm a city new theater and I said his shirt

2379
01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:05.079
is dry, and.

2380
01:45:05.439 --> 01:45:08.439
Preview were like, Roger, Yeah, appreciated that his shirt is dry.

2381
01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:10.239
And then somebody turned around and shot him dead because

2382
01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:12.039
it's Chicago movies.

2383
01:45:12.039 --> 01:45:13.840
But I don't know that seemed to go over pretty well.

2384
01:45:14.119 --> 01:45:15.760
You know, I got a question for you. I may

2385
01:45:15.800 --> 01:45:18.960
be very badly confused here in this. You know, I

2386
01:45:19.079 --> 01:45:22.359
usually am in this movie, this shark wants revenge against

2387
01:45:22.359 --> 01:45:23.039
the Brodie fans.

2388
01:45:23.039 --> 01:45:23.359
We got it?

2389
01:45:23.439 --> 01:45:26.119
Yes, Okay, Now, in the first movie, what happened the

2390
01:45:26.159 --> 01:45:29.720
first movie blown to pieces? Right, what happened to the shark?

2391
01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:31.520
In the second movie?

2392
01:45:31.960 --> 01:45:32.119
Right?

2393
01:45:32.359 --> 01:45:33.079
What happened to the shark?

2394
01:45:33.079 --> 01:45:33.720
And they all died?

2395
01:45:33.800 --> 01:45:36.800
They all die? So in that case, the fat Shark.

2396
01:45:36.640 --> 01:45:38.159
Is this a friend of the other sharks?

2397
01:45:38.479 --> 01:45:42.000
Yeah, it's a friend of the family, the shark's godfather.

2398
01:45:42.159 --> 01:45:42.560
You see.

2399
01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:44.560
By having this gimmick, that means that even though this

2400
01:45:44.600 --> 01:45:47.279
one dies, she's still was going to stay living in

2401
01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:49.520
that stupid town instead of moving into the Middle West

2402
01:45:49.560 --> 01:45:51.079
where she should be away from.

2403
01:45:51.680 --> 01:45:52.079
Wow.

2404
01:45:53.039 --> 01:45:54.920
So in any event, all like it?

2405
01:45:55.359 --> 01:45:57.000
You got it? I got that.

2406
01:45:57.039 --> 01:45:59.840
Okay, Next move live in Iowa. Man, live in Iowa.

2407
01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:03.239
That's the answer, Like I you know, I I I

2408
01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:08.000
damn I get where they're coming from. I couldn't imagine

2409
01:46:08.000 --> 01:46:10.159
any critics liked it. Oh no, it had to be

2410
01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:11.199
universally panned.

2411
01:46:11.399 --> 01:46:13.359
I wonder, I bet I could find maybe one review,

2412
01:46:13.399 --> 01:46:14.880
but I'm gonna have to dump that down.

2413
01:46:14.920 --> 01:46:16.439
So probably written by me, it could be.

2414
01:46:16.600 --> 01:46:18.800
So, Speaking of which, what are your final thoughts on

2415
01:46:18.920 --> 01:46:20.119
Jaws The Revenge I.

2416
01:46:20.079 --> 01:46:23.199
Mean, I'm gonna have to be realistic. I mean, because

2417
01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:24.920
I would say it's a by it, but most people

2418
01:46:24.920 --> 01:46:27.840
would simply not agree. Yes, I think if you've never

2419
01:46:27.960 --> 01:46:31.359
seen it, renting it is very wise. I think it's

2420
01:46:31.359 --> 01:46:33.439
beyond a stream it. I think you should rent it

2421
01:46:34.119 --> 01:46:37.039
and watch it with friends, Okay, or watch it by

2422
01:46:37.039 --> 01:46:39.640
yourself if you're not a loser like a fucking fuddy duddy.

2423
01:46:39.800 --> 01:46:41.920
I'm I'm unfortunately going to give it a stream it.

2424
01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:45.840
Wow. As much as I love Jaws the Revenge, this is.

2425
01:46:46.119 --> 01:46:51.399
This isn't a quired taste. This is an acquired taste movie.

2426
01:46:51.880 --> 01:46:53.680
I mean, for one, it's it's the fourth entry in

2427
01:46:53.720 --> 01:46:57.760
a series of you know, a blockbuster masterpiece that started

2428
01:46:57.760 --> 01:47:01.960
a craze. Basically sure, And I mean I, as we've

2429
01:47:01.960 --> 01:47:04.319
already said on the show, I love too. I think

2430
01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:06.840
two is a lot of fun. Three I have probably

2431
01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:08.960
seen the most out of any of the Jaws movies. Honestly,

2432
01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:11.239
Now I think about it, and I'm good for the

2433
01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:13.600
next five years, if not more. After watching it recently,

2434
01:47:13.680 --> 01:47:14.319
I feel bad that.

2435
01:47:14.319 --> 01:47:16.960
I haven't warmed up to it more. But I really haven't.

2436
01:47:17.199 --> 01:47:18.880
It's just there's not a lot there's not a lot there.

2437
01:47:19.279 --> 01:47:22.319
There's really not. And then Jaws Revenge is just a

2438
01:47:22.359 --> 01:47:26.560
hodgepodge of choices. I mean, and it's fun, but I

2439
01:47:26.600 --> 01:47:28.680
mean it is definitely an acquired taste film. So it's

2440
01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:30.520
a streaming for me. But I have to say that

2441
01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:32.720
if you haven't seen it, give it a watch.

2442
01:47:32.880 --> 01:47:36.199
I mean, to me, Jaws one is like a steak

2443
01:47:36.239 --> 01:47:40.199
dinner with a baked potato and some green beans. Jaws

2444
01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:42.119
two is like a deep dish pizza.

2445
01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:43.239
I was thinking steak sandwich.

2446
01:47:43.439 --> 01:47:47.520
Oh stiksy. It's like, it's like like a deep dish pizza.

2447
01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:49.079
It's like it's pretty good, but you get it, you

2448
01:47:49.079 --> 01:47:52.000
get it quick, and it's cheap. Jaws three is like

2449
01:47:52.159 --> 01:47:54.319
a cost Co cheeseburger fork sandwich.

2450
01:47:55.119 --> 01:47:55.720
I'll kill you.

2451
01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:57.640
I'll kill you and I won't even regret it. I'll

2452
01:47:57.720 --> 01:47:59.079
kill you and then I'll walk right into the police

2453
01:47:59.079 --> 01:48:02.520
station while I'm talking your parents on the phone. And

2454
01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:04.840
then Jaws four is like a peanut butter and banana

2455
01:48:04.880 --> 01:48:08.039
sandwich fried in bacon fat. It's it's it's it's like, look,

2456
01:48:08.079 --> 01:48:11.279
this is gonna be this is wild. It's not good

2457
01:48:11.319 --> 01:48:14.760
for you, but you're gonna be surprised how tasty it

2458
01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:16.600
can be. You're gonna like, you gotta give it a chance,

2459
01:48:16.640 --> 01:48:17.640
you gotta take two bites.

2460
01:48:17.720 --> 01:48:20.159
Yeah, minimum, I mean it's could could you say that

2461
01:48:20.239 --> 01:48:23.319
it is a good movie? Debatable? Is it?

2462
01:48:23.640 --> 01:48:27.359
You could say? I could say anything, but I stand

2463
01:48:27.399 --> 01:48:30.079
by it's not that it's the best Jaws movie. It's

2464
01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:34.000
that it's the most entertained, entering. I will never watch

2465
01:48:34.119 --> 01:48:37.479
Jaws One as many times as I've watched Jaws The Revenge.

2466
01:48:37.479 --> 01:48:39.920
For the sheer joy of Jaws The Revenge.

2467
01:48:39.960 --> 01:48:41.960
I'm genuinely curious. Is it the shortest of them?

2468
01:48:42.319 --> 01:48:43.199
I have no idea.

2469
01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:45.880
Two is like over two hours. Two is right at

2470
01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:50.760
two hours, three is ninety nine minutes. This is the

2471
01:48:50.800 --> 01:48:53.359
shortest Jaws film. Jaws the Revenge is the shortest Jaws film.

2472
01:48:53.399 --> 01:48:55.119
I mean, I believe it cut. They cut all the

2473
01:48:55.199 --> 01:48:57.960
voodoo out, cut the drive by shooting out.

2474
01:48:58.600 --> 01:49:00.199
I can't wait to read that novel now, man.

2475
01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:01.600
Yeah, I'm curious as hell.

2476
01:49:01.640 --> 01:49:03.399
Oh yeah, I'll give you a full report. I'll probably

2477
01:49:03.439 --> 01:49:05.000
even bring it to the show. So we always like

2478
01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:07.600
to end the show with a couple of recommendations. First

2479
01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:11.119
one I got this week is continuing into the Jaws infamy.

2480
01:49:11.159 --> 01:49:15.880
We're gonna go with Jaws five aka Cruel Jaws.

2481
01:49:15.479 --> 01:49:18.159
Jaws, Dick Brain, Dick Brain, dick Brain.

2482
01:49:18.319 --> 01:49:21.319
That movie is a fever dream from nineteen ninety five,

2483
01:49:21.399 --> 01:49:24.640
currently available on fossome Plex Pluto. In two B, it

2484
01:49:24.640 --> 01:49:27.079
says a huge shark terrorizes a beach in Florida, and

2485
01:49:27.119 --> 01:49:28.880
the locals try everything to kill it.

2486
01:49:29.520 --> 01:49:32.479
Oh, they try everything, including like three tons of dynamite.

2487
01:49:32.479 --> 01:49:33.079
That's deep blood.

2488
01:49:33.119 --> 01:49:34.640
Oh, that's deep Blood. Yeah, the same movie.

2489
01:49:34.640 --> 01:49:37.039
In my I mean that both of them borrow footage. Actually,

2490
01:49:37.439 --> 01:49:40.399
Cruel Jaws has footage stolen from Deep Blood Last Shark

2491
01:49:40.520 --> 01:49:41.760
and Jaws one, two and three.

2492
01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:47.279
Oh yes, stolen, shamely, not borrowed, shamely stolen. Yeah, stolen.

2493
01:49:47.479 --> 01:49:49.560
So you get that on like I said, fossom Plex,

2494
01:49:49.640 --> 01:49:51.880
Pluto and two B. The second recommendation I'm Gonna go

2495
01:49:51.920 --> 01:49:54.119
with is two thousand and four's Twelve Days of Terror

2496
01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:57.439
and Animal Planet original movie. Currently available. It's entirety on YouTube.

2497
01:49:57.439 --> 01:50:00.680
You can also rent it via Amazon. Twelve Days in

2498
01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:03.640
July of nineteen sixteen, a shark patroled the waterways of

2499
01:50:03.680 --> 01:50:06.479
northern New Jersey. This docu drama is based on Richard

2500
01:50:06.760 --> 01:50:08.880
Fernicola's account of those days.

2501
01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:09.560
It's really good.

2502
01:50:09.680 --> 01:50:11.439
It's a solid flow. Yeah, it's a solid one. Yeah,

2503
01:50:11.439 --> 01:50:12.800
basically the true story of Jaws.

2504
01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:18.479
Yeah. What's your recommendation, sir, Well, there are many wonderful

2505
01:50:18.640 --> 01:50:23.520
ripoffs of Jaws. Yes, and I decided to pick I

2506
01:50:23.560 --> 01:50:26.359
have my top two. Okay, I'm not going to give

2507
01:50:26.479 --> 01:50:29.520
both because one of them is Grizzly. I think Grizzly

2508
01:50:30.079 --> 01:50:31.960
is one of the best Jaws ripoffs ever. And it's

2509
01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:35.399
about a Grizzly bear. Absolutely, But number two in my

2510
01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:38.479
eyes has always been nineteen seventy seven's Orca.

2511
01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:42.279
I was wondering, and Orca is a lot of fun.

2512
01:50:42.279 --> 01:50:44.920
It's about a killer whale, a killer killer whale. Yes,

2513
01:50:45.359 --> 01:50:48.079
and I remember this one scaring the hell out of

2514
01:50:48.079 --> 01:50:50.079
me when I was a kid. Yeah, it's got several scenes.

2515
01:50:50.159 --> 01:50:52.920
Oh yeah, it's very scary. It's again it's this if

2516
01:50:52.920 --> 01:50:57.880
becomes personal the tagl or the synopsis on IMDb as

2517
01:50:57.880 --> 01:51:00.560
a fisherman and his crew are targeted by a killer

2518
01:51:00.600 --> 01:51:05.039
whale seeking vengeance for the death of its mate, and

2519
01:51:05.119 --> 01:51:08.319
it is a silly fun time. It's available to rent

2520
01:51:08.319 --> 01:51:11.119
on Amazon Prime. It's not currently streaming anywhere free with ads.

2521
01:51:11.439 --> 01:51:13.720
But that is totally worth a rent if you've never

2522
01:51:13.800 --> 01:51:17.399
seen Orca. They play it deadpan, they play it serious,

2523
01:51:17.800 --> 01:51:20.439
and that's why it works. While being ridiculous, it also

2524
01:51:20.479 --> 01:51:23.520
manages to be decently scary and suspenseful at the same time.

2525
01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:26.520
Killer whales are terrifying. If you haven't seen a documentary Blackfish.

2526
01:51:26.800 --> 01:51:30.920
Cannot recommend that documentary enough because my god, that.

2527
01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:33.399
Why are you trying to actually scare our audience? Because

2528
01:51:33.920 --> 01:51:34.920
is a lot terrifying.

2529
01:51:34.960 --> 01:51:35.680
They are, they are.

2530
01:51:36.039 --> 01:51:38.079
The way they retreated is not great, not great either.

2531
01:51:38.159 --> 01:51:40.119
Yeah, but yeah, no, orc is a great recommendation.

2532
01:51:40.159 --> 01:51:41.960
Don't you want to just pet its big flat tongue,

2533
01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:43.640
stick your hand in his mouth, pet it's tongue.

2534
01:51:43.880 --> 01:51:47.119
I've been wonder I do want to revisit that movie,

2535
01:51:47.119 --> 01:51:49.439
but honestly free Willy holds up. Oh, I'm sure it does.

2536
01:51:49.479 --> 01:51:52.760
It's actually really solid time and it's duite little directed.

2537
01:51:52.840 --> 01:51:55.720
That's true that one. Yes, so the director of Halloween four.

2538
01:51:55.680 --> 01:51:58.039
Yes he is. Do we have any emails this week?

2539
01:51:58.199 --> 01:51:59.960
Last I checked, we had one, so let's see if

2540
01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:04.399
that's still they took it away. If you guys want

2541
01:52:04.399 --> 01:52:05.600
to get a hold of us. By the way, you

2542
01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:07.199
could do so by sending us an email at do

2543
01:52:07.319 --> 01:52:10.720
you Even Movie Pod at gmail dot com or going

2544
01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:13.279
to do you evenmovie dot com for all the information

2545
01:52:13.359 --> 01:52:15.439
you could ever hope to have. This one's from our

2546
01:52:15.479 --> 01:52:18.560
good buddy, the guy the reason for the program.

2547
01:52:18.199 --> 01:52:19.000
Patrick Patrick.

2548
01:52:19.159 --> 01:52:22.800
Awesome Yeah, subject says Hi, guys, I was wondering what

2549
01:52:22.840 --> 01:52:29.039
you think about covering Tropic Thunder. I know it's controversial

2550
01:52:29.760 --> 01:52:33.039
or maybe Happy Gilmore. Thanks for the entertainment, guys.

2551
01:52:32.920 --> 01:52:34.960
Patrick, possibilities of both.

2552
01:52:35.439 --> 01:52:39.039
I think Tropic Thunder is one. It makes no sense

2553
01:52:39.079 --> 01:52:43.159
that it's aged so well, but it's just it's funnier, yeah,

2554
01:52:43.319 --> 01:52:46.359
now than it was then. In my opinion, every time

2555
01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:49.359
I've revisited it, I'm always like, God, that's a funny,

2556
01:52:49.680 --> 01:52:50.239
great film.

2557
01:52:50.279 --> 01:52:52.920
We revisited what like a year ago. Yeah, it still

2558
01:52:52.960 --> 01:52:56.960
holds up Happy Gilmore. I don't dislike Happy Gilmore. I

2559
01:52:57.039 --> 01:53:00.359
I've been a big fan of that one. I don't know.

2560
01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:02.039
I don't know if I would do an episode on

2561
01:53:02.159 --> 01:53:02.359
or not.

2562
01:53:02.840 --> 01:53:05.720
I have more nostalgia for Billy Madden Madison, saying, so,

2563
01:53:06.039 --> 01:53:07.760
if I was going to talk about one of those,

2564
01:53:07.800 --> 01:53:09.560
it would probably be that one. But I'm not like

2565
01:53:09.640 --> 01:53:12.239
crazy about those movies. No, but Billy Madison is just

2566
01:53:12.279 --> 01:53:14.119
the one that was always on yeah when I was

2567
01:53:14.159 --> 01:53:16.479
growing up, much more than Happy Gilmore.

2568
01:53:16.560 --> 01:53:18.800
Yeah one had Happy Gilmore. Has the sequel coming out

2569
01:53:18.840 --> 01:53:19.159
now too?

2570
01:53:19.239 --> 01:53:20.720
Oh yeah yeah it does.

2571
01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:24.000
But yeah, those are definitely possibilities, Patrick, So we will

2572
01:53:24.279 --> 01:53:25.520
entertain those for sure.

2573
01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:27.359
Tropic Thunder. I would not be shocked if we end

2574
01:53:27.479 --> 01:53:29.840
up doing as long as Dave is willing to wear

2575
01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:30.399
a blackface.

2576
01:53:30.520 --> 01:53:31.880
No, that's not happening.

2577
01:53:32.079 --> 01:53:32.680
What if?

2578
01:53:33.920 --> 01:53:36.680
No, No matter what you say, No, it's not happening.

2579
01:53:36.680 --> 01:53:38.960
But would you like to know, Gid, you like to

2580
01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:40.800
know what we are talking about next week on the

2581
01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:42.600
show as we continue lives of each month.

2582
01:53:42.680 --> 01:53:44.680
Well, I can only assume we're gonna do Jaws the

2583
01:53:44.720 --> 01:53:45.319
Revenge again.

2584
01:53:45.439 --> 01:53:47.399
Oh that's it. Yeah, all right, that's aloo the show.

2585
01:53:47.439 --> 01:53:48.920
Thank you guys so much for joining us.

2586
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No, we are going to be taking a step back

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to nineteen seventy nine for a movie I bet not

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many of our listeners have seen, let alone have heard of,

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01:53:57.560 --> 01:54:01.760
called Malibu High, currently available on Fowesome, Plex and TB,

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And all I can say is, if you haven't seen

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Malibu Hi, First off, it's available very easily right now

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01:54:07.760 --> 01:54:11.359
with those three apps. But also, you definitely want to

2593
01:54:11.399 --> 01:54:13.960
watch this movie before we talk about it. I don't

2594
01:54:13.960 --> 01:54:16.520
want to spoil this movie for you, but I absolutely will.

2595
01:54:16.800 --> 01:54:20.600
But this is the weirdest. It's really fun. Yeah, it's

2596
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so far out there, so far. I was honestly thrilled

2597
01:54:23.359 --> 01:54:25.920
but confused. You chose it, yeah, because I was like, well,

2598
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that's a it's a harsh one. It's a harsh one.

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01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:29.920
It's a harsh it's a harsh one. No, it's it

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01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:32.039
is really funny, it is easy.

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It gives you the premise that it's gonna be a

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01:54:34.199 --> 01:54:35.720
t and a comedy and it's not.

2603
01:54:36.359 --> 01:54:38.760
No, it has me maybe if you're like, if you

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01:54:38.760 --> 01:54:40.600
have a good head injury, that's recite.

2605
01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:43.119
Yeah, but I mean, yeah, this movie is one you're

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not ready for. And we're going to talk about it

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all next week on the show.

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Oh yeah. So make sure you're subscribed, whether it's on

2609
01:54:48.479 --> 01:54:51.560
your favorite podcasting app or if you're watching us on YouTube,

2610
01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:54.319
make sure you subscribe to my channel. And remember you

2611
01:54:54.319 --> 01:54:56.119
can email us at do you even Movie Pod at

2612
01:54:56.199 --> 01:54:59.479
gmail dot com. We're always excited to hear from you. Guys,

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01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:01.640
whether it's to recommend a movie, to comment on a

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01:55:01.640 --> 01:55:06.079
film we've talked about, to praise my coverage of Jaws,

2615
01:55:06.159 --> 01:55:09.960
do and and talk about how finally someone is brave

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01:55:10.079 --> 01:55:10.920
enough to speak the truth.

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01:55:11.079 --> 01:55:13.439
Genuinely cannot wait for these shorts that YouTube to see

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what people are gonna say about Revenge.

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I mean, bring all the hate you want. I don't

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care as well, because it's the best. It's it's so good.

2621
01:55:22.239 --> 01:55:24.640
I I I have no problem saying it's more entertaining

2622
01:55:24.760 --> 01:55:29.279
than Johnson. So you and I will forever say that,

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so you will.

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Well.

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01:55:30.720 --> 01:55:32.520
With all that being said, I guess all that's left

2626
01:55:32.520 --> 01:55:34.279
to do is say thank you guys so much for

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01:55:34.640 --> 01:55:36.840
watching or for watching us listening to us. Yes, we

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01:55:36.880 --> 01:55:40.439
do appreciate it. We'll be back next week with Malibu High.

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Yes we will. Boy howdy.

2630
01:55:42.119 --> 01:55:43.920
So I guess all that's left to say now is

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see you.

2632
01:55:46.760 --> 01:55:47.800
I'm gonna say that was personal.

2633
01:55:47.920 --> 01:55:50.560
Okay, it would make more sense, but we cut off

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01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:53.520
the voodoo something. The ending doesn't really work as well

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01:55:53.520 --> 01:55:53.960
as it because

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01:55:54.000 --> 01:55:56.239
It oh shit, oh shit,