May 23, 2025

Do You Even Movie? | Carrie (1976) – The Prom Horror Masterpiece

Do You Even Movie? | Carrie (1976) – The Prom Horror Masterpiece

“They’re All Gonna Laugh At You!” In this episode of Do You Even Movie?, we continue “May They Rest in Peace” month, honoring recently lost legends of the screen. We’re also checking off a Listener Request with a horror classic that redefined the...

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“They’re All Gonna Laugh At You!”

In this episode of Do You Even Movie?, we continue “May They Rest in Peace” month, honoring recently lost legends of the screen. We’re also checking off a Listener Request with a horror classic that redefined the genre.

Join Henrique & David in California as they revisit the 1976 horror masterpiece that made prom night terrifying—“CARRIE.” Carrie White, a shy outcast with telekinetic powers, faces the wrath of her classmates and the fanaticism of her mother in one of the most iconic and tragic horror films of all time.

Directed by Brian De Palma and starring Sissy Spacek, Piper Laurie, Amy Irving, and Priscilla Pointer.

🎙️ Topics this episode include:
  • What makes “Carrie” a masterpiece?
  • How great are De Palma’s shot choices?
  • Should we have more sympathy for Piper Laurie’s character?
  • Is this THE gateway film for horror fans?
  • How tragic is the prom scene in retrospect?

💃 Plus:
  • What were Hen and Dave’s personal prom experiences like?
  • Could Tony Todd have had a better send-off in “Final Destination: Bloodlines”?
  • Is “Clown In A Cornfield” or “Fight or Flight” worth a trip to the theater?

Whether you’re a fan of 70s horror, psychological thrillers, or iconic Stephen King adaptations, this episode is packed with film analysis, personal stories, and plenty of blood-soaked prom night nostalgia. 

📺 Watch “Carrie” now on Max: https://www.max.com/movies/carrie/6d50b04d-bb21-4bdc-8a21-3e93d2f50c25 

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It's the night of the senior Prom, and everybody is there,

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even Carrie White, the girl no one likes, and everyone

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makes fun of the girl who lives in that creepy

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house with her cruel mother, a girl with the strange power.

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But tonight no one will laugh at Carrie. She'll be

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voted Queen of the Prawn. For Carrie, it will be

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a dream come true. For everyone else, it will be

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a nightmare. Carried a new film by Brian de Palmer

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starring Sissy Spacek, Piper Laurie and John Travolta in his

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first motion picture role. If you have a Taste or terror,

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you have a date with Carrie.

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Rated are in a world?

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Podcasts Reigned, Supreme, Two Friends, Dare to Ask?

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Do You Even?

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Movie, hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David Denier.

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Spoiler alert. You know I didn't learn how to swim

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until I was thirty or thirty one, did you know what?

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Yeah?

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Because I remember what a big deal it was to

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see you in the pool with the Walters that one time.

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Well I could stand in that water, yeah, But you

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were excited because that was as somebody as little rich

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boy over here who who grew up with a pool

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in my backyard. It was it was interesting to see you,

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to see you swim, because I don't think we had

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ever really been in an environment that you actually were

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able to swim. I don't think we're ever really at

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a place at a pool except for the walters.

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Sure, sure, well. I my dad tried to teach me

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how to swim, pushing me in and I drowned. That's

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the whole story. Yeah, And then when I was growing up,

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the other incident with the pool was, uh, when I

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was living in the rough apartments, the kind of like

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the bully of the neighborhood pushed me in to the

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deep end, the deep end, and uh, I like, I

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don't know where my dad pushed me in exactly like,

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but this kid pushed me in at like the nine

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feet and I'm like seven.

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I put myself into the deep end once and almost drowned.

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And luckily there was a lifeguard or just a very

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nice person walking by that saw a kid drowning in

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the public pool and jumped in and helped me. But yeah,

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I almost I almost drowned myself because I went exactly

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where my mom told me not to go.

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I was like, my sister pulled me out. She was

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nearby and she saw me hit the water and she

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was like, you can't swim.

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Uh so uh yeah. When people go like, whoa, you

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didn't swim until you were like, you didn't learn to

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swim to your your thirties, I was like, well, I

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had to get over drowning twice.

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Yeah, and also get over swimming and cricks, which you'll

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never do.

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I have no desire to get a brain amba personally,

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but uh maybe professionally, but not personally there. But but

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that all being said, I don't swim very often. Yet

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here I sit across from you, frustrated, tired, and sore

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because I have swimmers ear.

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Yeah you do.

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I have an ear infection, and uh it's great.

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That leads me to believe that you just didn't andrew

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WK hard enough when you got out of the shower

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to shake all the water out of your ear.

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Oh I did. I did everything in my power to

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try and get that ear dried up.

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Get ear infections like often, or like have issues with

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it often.

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This is the first one I can recall. Yeah, so

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it's been it's got to be decade or more since

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I i've had an ear infection if at all? Yeah, yeah,

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I don't recall the last time I did.

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I think the last time recently is when you helped

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me out when I had like wouldn't ear infection, but

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I had that ear stopped up.

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Yeah, yeah, that was.

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That was like the worst thing that I've encountered ear wise,

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probably a good while. I can't remember the last night

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had an actual ear infection.

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A little kid, Well, what I can help you?

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I'm good, I.

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Can swab mine and then try to I was already.

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Nervous sitt next to you at the theater. To be honest,

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I was trying to do this the whole time.

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The case you didn't see, Oh, I thought you were

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just covering one of your ears, so it wasn't It

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was half as scary. But uh I I hate this.

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Yeah, it feels.

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It feels awful.

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I feel awful for you right now.

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But on the plus side, David boy mm hmmm, I'm

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on a bunch of pain medicine is that which is

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making me feel really weird, which I hate. And we're

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going to talk about a movie where we're gonna have

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to talk about school a bunch, so oh yeah, there

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we go.

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Yeah, Well, in my defense, I I came around to

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really really getting excited to talk about this movie because

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I've always liked this movie, but it wasn't until rewatching

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it last night that I was just like, this movie

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actually has a really big place in my life, which

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I'll get into. So I was kind of happy about

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that that it was just kind of like a rediscovery

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with this that had been a part of my life

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for a long time.

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Hmm, interesting interestingly, Yeah, yeah, that's fair, No, no, it

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I mean movies are that way.

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It's that's kind of one of the things that I

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love about them. Because when I was watching it last night,

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it I took to Facebook and wrote a thing basically saying,

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how people ask me all the time why do I

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like movies so much? And the simple and short answer

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is the movie itself can be a spectacle, it can

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be awesome, but usually the experiences that people have with

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them can be even bigger stories in my opinion, and

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interesting stories, and like I love hearing people's first time

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seeing something, how they found something along those lines. Not

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everybody's story is great, I'm not gonna say that, but

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it's more or so just the experiences that we have

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with films in general can be a really really good

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storytelling in and of itself.

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You heard it, hear folks, First kids, Dave says, some

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of your stories suck.

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You know some of my stories suck? Oh is what

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it is? You won't burn the mic.

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I was looking for my phone.

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I put it right there for you.

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This is what happens when I'm all knocked off pocket.

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Nope, uh I DK might be a ff deal.

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Well, eventually we had an email to read on the show.

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We'll find it, will we live? Hope?

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Uh?

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Kind of gone anywhere?

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It can't have gotten far.

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Wow, you didn't put it in the humidor did you?

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No?

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Okay, there's no there's no room in it.

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Well, wait, you were You just had it a minute ago.

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And also that just went off. Fine, you just had

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it a minute ago because you were checking something. Uh

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so it's got to be near you.

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This is such a nightmare.

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That's mine?

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What?

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Oh, that's fine? This why this is so interesting for

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the listeners Right now, I'm loving this. Did you put

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your phone out?

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Who cares I do? This is just gonna be my day.

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You're not sitting on it right Nope?

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I would notice that, I think.

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So, Yeah, it's all right, this is weird. You just

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had it.

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Mm hmm. That's why I'm annoyed. Yeah, I understand, but

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don't worry about it.

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David. All right, fair enough.

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If we die, we die. So my point is I'm

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I'm trying my best, but I am not batting a

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very high average right now.

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What you're saying is I'm gonna carry this show tonight.

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I'm so sorry everybody.

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So we are talking about For those unaware, we are

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talking about Carrie from nineteen seventy six to Night which,

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by the way, this was a listener request for one

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of our listener's birthday. Nicole L requested this for us

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to talk about, and Nicole, I'm really happy you picked

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this one because it's, like I said, has a big

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place that I realized. But before we get to that,

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we just saw an awesome movie before we came here.

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Hm.

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We did no, no, we did no.

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We we went and saw a final destination bloodline, yes, sir,

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which I guess is just gonna help continue the long

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story tradition of bloodlines.

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In the peoples. Yeah, I mean hell Razor blood lines,

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but cemetery blood lines. I feel like there's one more

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that I can't I think that might actually be that's

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still a lot, because I feel like Children of the

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Corn blood Lines is just like unavoidable at this point.

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Yeah, honestly, I'm shocked.

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I mean honestly, Leprechon blood lines would make sense too,

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in my opinion, you could honestly call that instead of Origins,

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which was a terrible fucking movie.

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Uh.

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Let's see titles matching blood lines according to IMDb. Oh

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wrong turn five.

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Blood blood lines. Yeah that's right. Yeah yeah yeah.

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Uh and then hell Raiser was blood line blood line.

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Yeah that Cemetery blood lines.

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Uh, Tremor's five blood line.

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Oh fuck, yeah that's right.

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Jesus dude.

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Sorry, I just am excited.

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Day of the Dead blood lines Okay, yeah.

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We are way more than I've originally thought.

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Let's see that might be it wrongful Death two bloodlines

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coming out. It's a low it's like a low budget thing.

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I can't believe how many things we're finding. Oh uh

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oh oh, these say they're coming out. So I don't

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know if that's true. Because it's a Commando bloodline. Commando

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is in Commando, It's on IMDb. Everything's a lie there.

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A soldier returns home from war to be reunited with

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his fiance, but everything goes to planned. If they're Final Mission.

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Video sequel to Commando, I don't know how you feel

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about that.

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It's a Bollywood movie.

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Oh okay, that makes more sense.

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And actually a lot of these were Bollywood movies, but

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that one didn't look immediately like one, so I said

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it's fair. Video game wise, Assassin Creed's Bloodline, yep, knew that.

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I think we might find that might be the ape.

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That's do you want to go into books next or

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even albums?

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Am I wrong? That that's like a lot?

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It's a lot. I mean that's a lot. There's not

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a lot of movies that share the same subtitle. Bloodlines

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is definitely one of them, though Bloodline or Bloodlines for

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that matter. But no, I we we went into this

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movie obviously amped because final listination movies, as we talked

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about when we did our episode, are a blast.

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When did we do that?

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You know, a couple of weeks? That's fine? Actually last week,

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I'm all off right now, it's fine. It was last week, yes,

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But yeah, no, when we talked about follow destination, like

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we all we we highlighted that it's just the way

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that there's your fucking phone.

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Oh, why'd you interrupt? You were making a point.

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What I would interrupt myself because I saw your phone.

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Oh oh, I don't mean to brag, but my stock

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purchasing app just informed me I received a dividend from

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one of my stockholding. There you go, thirty two cents

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all mine?

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All right?

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No, but final detonation, there's just a fun that goes

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along with these movies of how are they going to

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do it? And this movie did not disappoint with that?

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Or are they gonna do what?

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How they don't kill people?

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Mmmm? Well, well, but there's the there's the two for two. Yeah,

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because you see a bunch of people die at the beginning, yeah,

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wild in wild ways Yeah, and then the vengeance for them,

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you know, not dying when they were when their time

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had come.

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I roll my eyes when I said, because the more

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I think of how death functions and operates, the more

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I'm like, you're inconsistent, kind of a dick.

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I still go back to the whole thing of one

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having the only instance where death tries to cover its

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tracks even though you know, suck them the water up

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it's basically just making it look like a direct suicide

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versus actually getting involved.

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Well, it always tries to make it look like an

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accident at the very least, so it does.

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Cover itsself, but I've never seen it suck itself back

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in that sense.

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Yeah, that was a little interesting choice.

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Yeah, but I mean final destination blood lines.

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What I think we both liked about it for this

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For this one was the approach that they took with

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the storytelling, because it wasn't the same format as they've

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done in the sense of the past.

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Not not really, it was it definitely felt different in

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a in a way that I liked. The opening death

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was very thought out. God, I was shocked how wild

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that opening was.

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It just kept getting more and more insane, and then

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the cartage just didn't stop.

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No, we never did get a title.

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We didn't know. I mean at the very end that

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was that was it. Yeah, but yeah, I I I

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think my favorite thing about this, which you know, as

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as we did coverage of it last week, because of

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Tony Todd, the send off that they have in this

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movie for him.

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It's so good.

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It's perfect.

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The way they they wrap up blood Worth and I

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don't feel like that's much of a spoiler because Tony

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Todd is no longer with us. Yeah, but they went

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out of their way to get this movie to fit

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in the world the world of It, yeah, which I

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really liked without it being a straight up legacy sequel

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or a remake requel thing like which. Granted, I mean,

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I love the movies that most of these movies that

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are getting legacy sequels I love. I mean, I love

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what David Gordon Green did with the Halloween ones.

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Absolutely.

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I get what they were trying to do with the

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Texas Chainsaw one.

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Oh. They tried same thing with the Exorcist.

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Yeah. The Exorcist one was a lot more satisfying as

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a fan. Yeah, I like, even if you didn't like

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the choices, at least they went back I think a bunch.

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The problem with Texas Chainsaw was you actually already like

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linked it was they tried to do a twenty eighteen

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Halloween with that, and it just.

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Without winking or trying to like make fun of it

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a little bit or something. They just brought Sally back

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for friggin' bupkiss.

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For bupkis and body count.

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Yeah, and it's like, unfortunately Marilyn uh burn burns, let

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me tell you something funny.

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No no, no, no, no no no.

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No no, let me, let me, let me. I want

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everybody to understand something.

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Yeah.

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So we've been friends a long time, A good long time.

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I mean you're not crazy about but over ten over

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over ten years ago, we've definitely been tight buds ten years. Yeah,

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you know, like pretty much. And when I don't know

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if if you were I mean, if you realized this.

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I think I told you this before. But when we

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did send them a Wasteland together, because there was one

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year where nobody could help me with the show, and

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you volunteered to.

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Ride up in twenty nineteen actually, and that was but

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that was what you.

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Were real meant for doing that, because I really it's

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a hard it's hard to do conventions all by yourself

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and stuff like that. But after hanging out with you

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non stop so much, that was the first time I

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was like, Dave, you are anxious, brother, and that's coming

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from an anxious person. Like it's not a judgment, it's

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an observation. And one of the things I noticed was

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that you would often answer things when you weren't ready,

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so you'd be like yeah, yeah, and they'd be like,

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all right, well do you want to go there and

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you know grab what I'd be like when you said

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yes it was to a question, you know, but it

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would always be like no, what's the word, like no,

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no fault, no pressures.

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It would be like yes, no person. I answer first,

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and then I actually think about what I said, what

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what was actually asked of me?

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By my point is that like it would be low stakes,

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that's the term I'm looking for. Like, you know, it

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would be do you want to grab us a couple

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of sodas or something? And you'd answer super fast. It's like, man,

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you don't. We're not even talking about anything important. We're

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just like you're gonna get some drink. My point is

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when I said Marylyn and I took a pause, it

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was because I literally in my head was like, don't

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say Chambers because it's Burns. But I was double checking

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Marr and I was like, wait, which one's which? Yeah,

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and then you jumped that's yea. It gave me pause

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because I was because I was like, damn, it's like

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Dave stole my mistake from me.

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Maryln Chambers was actually at Wasteland on the very first

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year I went, and then had passed like two weeks later.

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Yes, yeah, but Marylyn Burns, who played Sally Hardest in

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the original Texas Chancesaw, she passed away quite a while ago. Yeah,

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so they had this actress who was fine, but they

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had her coming and b Sally. They did almost nothing with.

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It, really five minutes screen time with that.

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But but then on top of that, like it just

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it doesn't have the own if it's not the person's back.

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Texas Chainsaw on Netflix was just very tough to enjoy

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because not even the characters were likable much. That movie,

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Like I really wanted to get because I'm actually somebody

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that really likes Texas Chainsaw three D and there's a

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lot of three D.

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Yeah, there was a lot more fun in three D.

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Three I saw, Yeah, I saw in college in three D.

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It was the best I thought. We went together. No way,

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we didn't. We we didn't, I know, we didn't for

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that one. I was because that was what I went

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with somebody anyway. But yeah, no, but there were so

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many people that hated that movie, and I actually really

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enjoyed it. I mean, given you know, we did get

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the teas of the Carnival that we always joke about

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that he didn't get to do anything at But I

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think text Chansaw three D is actually a really fun movie.

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Texas Chainsaw on Netflix was just fine.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, So to not to stay on that track,

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but my point is like, yeah, it just it just

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didn't really work. So having final destination Bloodlines not really

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feel like a total retread while still being a movie

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about the same concept. Yeah, I really dug this might

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be my favorite premonition. It was so it was so involved.

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It was a period piece because the whole concept of

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Bloodlines is that this is that the people born of

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the people who should have died become a part of

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the domino chain. Yep, that death has to clean up.

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My only problem with death in all of those movies

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is it's like, okay, death. So what you're saying is

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everybody has a time when they're supposed to die, right,

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and if they miss it, they've cheated you. So you

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have to correct that by killing them. Yes, So sometimes

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when you kill them, it's because you cause like a

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car crash or an accident, like a mass accident that

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kills other people. So didn't they die not at their time?

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It's like, well, it was their time, but you couldn't.

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You didn't know that these people were gonna cheat you.

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So my question is, if you take your own life,

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does that break the chain or does it just move

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on to the next person.

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Well, I mean, I don't know if it breaks the

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I know what it would spare you, but no. So

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it was really fun. I thought the characters were pretty likable.

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At first, I was a little iffy about the lead actress.

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I just wasn't sure if I would like her. But

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I thought she actually played the role like really fun

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and really subtle, which I think is why I was

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a little thrown at first, as she was very understated,

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which at first made me think she was boring. But

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I didn't feel that way for more than like three

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or four minutes because she really picked up the pace.

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Well, the movie didn't fuck around like that, say.

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Speaking of pace. For the longest installment, it like an

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hour forty eight or something. Yeah, for the longest installment.

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It book its flew back.

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There were a couple of times I turned you went

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is it just me? Or is this movie really flying?

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Yeah?

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It was moving and moving and moving, and it was

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one of those movies who that like when the third

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act started about halfway through, a dawn to me like,

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oh shit, this is the third act at the end, yeah,

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like we're almost to the end. Probably maybe, but you're right.

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I think that it was a great installment. I don't

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remember the last one being that gory. This was really gory.

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It was very gory. And also it was consistent with

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the with the mythology of the slow build to the deaths.

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Is the really Goldberg machines of death, because like I

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remember five having a lot more of is it just

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been done? And four honestly had a little bit of build.

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I haven't seen the fune of this nation in a while,

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but I remember it having a bit of a slow

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build with some of those deaths. This one in particular,

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like I'm not gonna spoil it, but the one in

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the hospital, Oh wow, that was really we were just

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we're sitting there just being like, what's good. I'm just

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waiting to see what's gonna have thought it was to

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be kind of dumb, and they did well. Granted it's

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a horror movie, their logic is always gonna be a

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little flawed. Yeah, they established enough to make it make

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sense even if it didn't it, did you know? By

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basically I mean without spoiler, like, they took something that

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can be dangerous and made it way more dangerous, but

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they explained why well. And they also started it outside

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of the room where everything actually took place, So it

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was just like you thought once you got in that

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room that you'd be safe because the thing that broke

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was out there.

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And no, no, nobody, nobody was saying nobody was safe,

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so that was super fun. We also saw what may

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have been the first example of just vengeance killing from death,

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because death killed someone who wasn't on the list because

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they were in the way, literally, so I thought that

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was pretty pretty solid. Also, I liked that there's a

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fake out death where you find out somebody is not

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meant to die from this, which means that they just

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worked in a OSHA violation shithole. I guess basically, boy Howdy,

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that place was a bit crazy. I do love the

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Rube Goldberg death machines, but I can't help it every

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time death starts like plotting to kill someone a final destination.

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In the back of my mind, here's here, Dun dunt

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duns were playing mouse trap.

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I could definitely see that, but yeah, final Destination blood

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Lines highly recommended. It's a great close for Tony Todd's character.

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It's a great inclusion in the series. And like I

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told you when the credits were going, if this is

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a conclusion for it, which I guess we'll see, I'd

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be content with this.

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I hope it does well. I'm like David Ouope, I

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hope it does well too.

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God damn it.

469
00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:28.319
No.

470
00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:33.359
I In particular, what they did with Tony Todd's blood

471
00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:40.319
Worth character was really inspired, thought out, interesting, It basically sweet.

472
00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:45.039
It was sweet, and it basically gave his character an

473
00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:46.880
arc and humanity.

474
00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:48.759
It gave him a lot of humanity that, like, we

475
00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:51.599
really didn't have because the thing with Bloedworth that we

476
00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:54.079
talked about last week too is just like is is

477
00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:56.279
he death or is he just somebody that is aware

478
00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:58.279
of what's going on? And they gave us that answer

479
00:21:58.279 --> 00:21:58.759
in this Yeah.

480
00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:01.119
Yeah, we found out exactly why he knows so much.

481
00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:04.960
And it's not just being working in a mortuary. It's

482
00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:05.640
beyond that.

483
00:22:05.720 --> 00:22:06.559
Yeah, that's so good.

484
00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:08.799
It was a really great twist. It was a really

485
00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:11.519
great twist. I tried not to get choked up because

486
00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:17.759
his character literally references being terminally ill and Tony was, which, honestly,

487
00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:21.480
I mean he looked he was he was he was

488
00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:22.200
on death Store.

489
00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.519
Yeah, he looks. He definitely looked that he was knocking

490
00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:27.839
and he is. His voice was definitely a little bit

491
00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:30.440
different too, but he still had that mentality.

492
00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:33.119
And he was so he was so emaciated. Yeah, but

493
00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:35.920
so him kind of referencing like it's about gonna be

494
00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:38.880
my time soon, I was just like, but I was

495
00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:40.759
glad they got to give him a sendoff like that,

496
00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:43.039
because it's not like, you know, they could have come

497
00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:45.079
up with another Candy Man movie in time. I think

498
00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:47.279
that they. I think they when they were developing us,

499
00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:49.799
they looked at where Tony was yea, and said like,

500
00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:53.039
we're going to do something with this that's gonna be

501
00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:54.559
that's gonna be cool for that character.

502
00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:56.720
And that's probably why he is in this This might

503
00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:58.799
be a spoiler, but I think that's why he is

504
00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:01.480
the only character that is the lum that is back

505
00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:03.880
in this movie in the series, Like a lot of

506
00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:07.359
people are already dead in the series in real life.

507
00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:10.880
And I think that, honestly, the concept with it being

508
00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:14.680
a family stalked by death was a really nice, refreshing

509
00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:17.039
take on it. It was so it wasn't a group

510
00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:20.279
of friends where like disparate friends where like you know,

511
00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:22.359
some of them are closer than others and some of them.

512
00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:24.599
It was. It was very different in that vibe.

513
00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:27.279
Yeah, because I mean, honestly, the first four movies are friends.

514
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:29.359
I don't remember the premonition of the fifth one really well.

515
00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.119
I'm really rough on the fifth one. I've not seen

516
00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:32.720
it in a good bit.

517
00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:35.200
But they the one thing they blew it on though

518
00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:38.799
they should have said it on Thanksgiving or Christmas because

519
00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:41.559
you got a family and like, there is that part

520
00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:43.839
of me was like that scene with the cookout with

521
00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:46.839
all the crazy Rue Goldberg's happening, like could have been

522
00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:47.720
at Thanksgiving.

523
00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.799
But hey, you mentioning holidays also brings up another movie

524
00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:53.000
that we didn't see together but we both saw, and

525
00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.720
that is Cloud in the Cornfield. What holiday is in Oh, oh,

526
00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:00.720
Founder's Day or found I mean, it's very HALLOWEENI let's

527
00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:01.599
be honest.

528
00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:01.799
Is it.

529
00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:03.839
No?

530
00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:07.839
Uh? Yeah, I caught Clown in the Cornfield day before

531
00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:08.160
you did.

532
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:08.400
Yep.

533
00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:10.799
I caught it in the theater.

534
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:13.359
Directed by Eli Craig, who did not only Tucker and

535
00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:16.839
Del Versus Evil. But if anybody has not seen Little

536
00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:19.599
Evil on Netflix, the Adam Craig movie about the evil

537
00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:23.160
kid really funny, and he also directed that I have

538
00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:24.599
not seen that. That's a really good one.

539
00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:27.400
I've heard some good Tucker and Dale Versus Evil is

540
00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:29.039
one of those horror comedies.

541
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:31.160
That works for me. Yeah, it's like very much works

542
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:31.400
for me.

543
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:36.559
That being said, look, let.

544
00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:39.519
Us two seconds. Clown out of Cornfield is basically the

545
00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:42.279
story of this town that has this clown mascot.

546
00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:43.960
I thought you were saying, it's basically the story of

547
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:44.519
this book.

548
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:47.440
That's this book, no, that has this clown mascot that

549
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:50.759
was this corn syrup company that went bankrupt. And basically

550
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:53.599
the town holds onto the idea of friend of the clown,

551
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:55.759
like that's that's their mascot for the Ten's.

552
00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:57.400
The mascot of the company that built the town.

553
00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:01.279
Basically, and the teens in the town are harassed by

554
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:04.160
or are basically looked down upon by the townspeople. They

555
00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:05.720
do not like the youth and everything, and then all

556
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:07.279
of a sudden some of the youth starts dying.

557
00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:09.599
Well, the reason I don't like the youth is they

558
00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:12.880
believe that they burned down down the factory, and of

559
00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:17.079
course that the investigation showed it was an electrical fire,

560
00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:20.279
and now half the town is out of work. And

561
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:22.680
there were a few moments in there that really, like

562
00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:24.599
I did like the movie quite a bit. I have

563
00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:27.880
my big nitpicks are with the weird tonal change.

564
00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:30.240
The same thing you and I have on this, Yeah, because.

565
00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:34.200
It was at first a kind of teen screams slasher movie.

566
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.279
And I'm starting to notice something when you if you

567
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:39.119
make a slash, it seems like if you make an

568
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:42.680
honest to goodness slasher movie in today's era, I mean,

569
00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:43.640
like on a higher level.

570
00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:45.079
Yeah, Hard Ice a couple of.

571
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:48.400
Millions, like Hard Eyes example, they really I don't know

572
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:51.799
if it's intentional or aware or if it's just coincidence,

573
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:54.160
but they really come off like those early two thousands

574
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:59.400
slasher like Sorority Row and and Black xmus and stuff

575
00:25:59.400 --> 00:25:59.799
like that.

576
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:02.200
Opening title card, A clown on the cornfield just gives

577
00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:04.240
you everything that you know is about to happen in

578
00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:06.279
this movie. And if you are not with that title card,

579
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:07.400
this movie's not for you.

580
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:09.799
I really I got a real kick out of it,

581
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:13.559
and and I did enjoy it. It is very much

582
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:17.200
a basic slasher movie. Some really good casting choices. I

583
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:20.160
thought the lead actress. I liked her a lot. She's

584
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:25.400
there's a thing with actors, especially with actresses, where like

585
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.240
there's just something sometimes that'll be like odd about them,

586
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:31.839
but not in a negative way, like it's like this

587
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:33.240
is a terrible thing, but I don't give a shit.

588
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.400
I'm on pain medicine, like Julia Roberts. I like to

589
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:39.799
give her as an example because Julia Roberts is well,

590
00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:41.240
first of one of the most beautiful in the world.

591
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:43.680
She's kind of ugly. And what I say ugly, I

592
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:47.599
mean like the traditional standards are you don't have big teeth,

593
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:49.720
or you don't have a pronounce this or that. But

594
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:53.720
she's gorgeous. Yeah, doesn't matter to me. That's just somebody

595
00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:57.839
having really, you know, having really interesting beauty or whatever.

596
00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:01.599
And that actress was very pretty. Her voice is interesting,

597
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:03.759
and I mean that in a good way, like I

598
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:05.079
like her voice. But there were a few times she

599
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:06.759
said things I was like, damn, she has a raspy voice.

600
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:08.319
She has like a kind of oddly deep voice.

601
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:09.519
She does not like Tom Wayite.

602
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:13.480
It's not no, no, no, And but I thought she

603
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.480
was great in it. I thought, like I thought she

604
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:20.039
was definitely older than she was playing, but I didn't

605
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:22.799
realize she was like eight years older than she was playing.

606
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.440
So kudos to her on that. She did really good job.

607
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.720
I thought that the dad, I actually thought the dad

608
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:29.000
was one of the best characters in the movie.

609
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:30.519
He was He was just really fun.

610
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.000
I there was a part where that got me choked

611
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:36.079
up where he ends up mad at his daughter and

612
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:38.960
he just turns to her and says, I'm trying, I'm trying,

613
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:40.960
And I was like, oh my god. You know, because

614
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.920
because they basically the basic setup is this young woman

615
00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:46.319
and her father moved to this little town in.

616
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.920
Missouri, Missouri. Yeah, and they and he's recently lost his

617
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:51.000
wife too over.

618
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:53.359
A drug overdose. And he's a doctor, yes, so he's

619
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.680
left the emergency room and become a small town doctor,

620
00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.839
which is a such a classic cliche setup for not

621
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.799
not slasher movies, just in general general movies where like

622
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:06.359
a lot of alien invasion or you know, alien movies,

623
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:07.160
monster movies.

624
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:08.799
That cemetery too was originally what came to mind.

625
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:11.440
Oh well pet cemetery. Yeah, it was was a small

626
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.000
town or a big, big city doctor goes to small town.

627
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:15.200
So was aractophobia.

628
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:15.519
Yep.

629
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.000
Yeah, it's kind of a common trope. It's not a

630
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:20.640
slasher movie trope. It's just kind of a trope to have,

631
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:21.880
like one fish out of water.

632
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:22.200
Yeah.

633
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.000
A lot of those sci fi original movies that were

634
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:27.480
coming out in the late e nineties and early two

635
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.559
thousands were always like it was either a doctor or

636
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:31.000
a cop.

637
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:31.319
Yeah.

638
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:33.799
In fact, I might have confused that might have been No, No,

639
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:36.880
it was a doctor in an areactophobia as well. Yeah,

640
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:37.920
But a lot of times it will be that, or

641
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:40.720
it'll be like the big city police chief or sheriff

642
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:42.079
for what it becomes the small town shriff.

643
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:43.960
Or if it's a nineties movie, the dad's an architect.

644
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.440
That was. That was so fucking common.

645
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.759
So I like that though. I like that touch like

646
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:52.799
he's the new doctor in this town. Yeah, that's horrifically

647
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:56.920
economically depressed. I loved the elements with the mom or

648
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:01.000
the the daughter and the father. I nothing against the

649
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:02.960
clown in the Cornfield novel. I never I never got

650
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:04.920
around to finishing it. I will finish it sometime, but

651
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:06.480
I read a little over half. It's long, it's a

652
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:09.039
long book. Yeah, and I did like it.

653
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:12.839
Yeah, So I've read the first two because I have

654
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:14.720
I have the third, but I've read the first two

655
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.680
and they, like, like I told you via text, they

656
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:20.519
they stuck to it pretty much as far as the

657
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:22.799
meat potato goes to the story. They did some really

658
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:24.599
cool things that are not in the novel in the

659
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:25.920
movie that I really did enjoy.

660
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:28.839
Yeah, And and the book was a lot more It was,

661
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:30.400
like I said, it was a longer book, so it

662
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.599
was a lot more expanded. There a lot a lot.

663
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:36.640
More history, a lot more deaths, and overall it expands

664
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.039
a lot more with Quinn, who is Katie's character that

665
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:41.200
she plays in the movie, and that's what carries you know,

666
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:43.599
through the rest of the books as well. But I

667
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:45.680
mean this, this one, this first entry, and I and

668
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.000
I hope we get a sequel. I would really like. Yeah,

669
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:50.839
this first entry I thought was a lot of fun.

670
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:53.240
And like I said that, the main critique that I

671
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:54.960
had was just there was bits of comedy, like you

672
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:56.680
and I said that just it felt odd.

673
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.720
Yeah, so about at about the halfway point, yeah, when

674
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:02.880
all hell breaks loose, h uh spoiler, Like people get

675
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:08.200
killed in this slasher mostly teens. Yes, but when when

676
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:10.799
all hell breaks loose, all of a sudden, people were

677
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:13.759
The humor before had been really on point, yeah, and

678
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:17.119
relatively subtle. Yeah, I mean you know, but I mean

679
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:20.240
you little jabs and barbs and and little jokes about

680
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:23.200
like small town America, Philadelphia, stuff like that. I loved

681
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:25.359
all of that. Then all of a sudden it became

682
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:29.480
like really jokey and and in my opinion, it like

683
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:31.960
it was. It didn't come off at all as a

684
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:34.640
horror comedy until about the middle point middle point, and

685
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.240
even then it wasn't constant, which I appreciated.

686
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:38.319
But it was just a couple entries. Yeah.

687
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:40.480
There were a few moments where like somebody would would

688
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:44.240
yell something yeah, and I would just be like what.

689
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:46.960
The scene when Dad fights back was was one where

690
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:48.680
I was just like, this is what weird.

691
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:50.680
I thought the first half of how he fought back

692
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.039
was good, but then then when he's basically cracking a

693
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:55.839
joke as someone is dying dying and he's a doctor,

694
00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:59.039
I was like, all right, that's a little hefty, because yeah,

695
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:01.119
I liked the first part, but yeah, then it got

696
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:02.960
way too joky. And there was also a part where

697
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:05.000
somebody's dying and they're like, I hate you, and then

698
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:06.880
the killer's like, I hate you too, and I was like,

699
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:09.759
that's funny, but like, and it was weird, but it

700
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:11.720
wasn't just the place of the humor because there's a

701
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.920
part where she basically says a line that's a lot

702
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:18.160
of friend does the shouts, but she screams it to

703
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:20.240
her friends like, and all I could think was like,

704
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:22.359
that line would be great if she'd like set it

705
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.240
to her, if she'd just been like, that's a lot of.

706
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:27.319
Friends shirts in the book. I just can't remember if

707
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:28.880
she does yell it in the book or if it

708
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:31.599
is internal monologue. But yeah, I thought Clown in Cornfield

709
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:33.880
was a lot of fun. It's currently in theaters right now.

710
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:35.960
I don't know how long it'll be in there because

711
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:37.240
it seems like it's a smaller release.

712
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:39.519
Yeah, and it's doing okay. It's made a few million dollars,

713
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:41.359
which I mean, I'm assuming that movie probably costs around

714
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:41.960
a million to make.

715
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:46.279
According to IMDb, no budget listed, No.

716
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:48.480
No, they're keeping that. They're keeping that quiet.

717
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:50.119
Yeah, but it is going to be hitting shutter as

718
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:51.680
well too, because it was a shutter film.

719
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.839
It was had a lot of production companies at getting

720
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.599
that's did so no but Clown in the Cornfield. All

721
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:00.240
that to say when I I'm the reason I'm picking

722
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:01.920
at a party is because I enjoyed it so much.

723
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:03.519
So the things that didn't work for me stick out

724
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:06.039
a little bit more. But overall it was really fun.

725
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:08.200
It was a slasher movie through and through.

726
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:10.359
Shout out to Will Sasso though I thought Sasso was

727
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:11.000
great in it.

728
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:14.119
I he plays the sheriff. I was amped when Will

729
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.799
Sasso walked up to the table at the diner my

730
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:18.400
first the first thing and it was turned to racial

731
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:21.400
but that's well Sasso yeah, and she was like who okay?

732
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:24.599
And I was like, ah so no, no. See Clown

733
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:26.960
in the Cornfield. If you are a horror fan, try

734
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:28.920
to see it in the theater. But I also want

735
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.839
to mention I saw a movie that is not doing

736
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.200
very well in the theater. I went to the movies

737
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:34.480
a bunch.

738
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:34.960
Recently.

739
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:40.680
I caught Fight or Flight starring what's his name, Josh Hartnett,

740
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.559
who you know, had just done Trap last year. I

741
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.359
think it was which I really liked, and it's about

742
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:52.200
a former operative for the for the government who ends

743
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:56.519
up on an airplane trying to capture this this hacker,

744
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.359
and he finds out once the plane is in the

745
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:02.960
air at the entire world found out the hacker was

746
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.240
on that plane, and there's a ten million dollar bounty

747
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.440
for the hacker, and nobody knows the name of the

748
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.240
hacker or anything like what they look like or anything.

749
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:10.720
So they're all trying to figure out who's the hacker

750
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:12.920
on this plane. But it was like it was it

751
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:14.920
had a little bit of a bullet traininess, except in

752
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:16.960
bullet train there's like eight killers in a giant train.

753
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:19.960
On this one, more than a third of the plane

754
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:24.119
is killers. Yeah, And and the way it opens makes

755
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:26.160
makes it's one of those things where they do the

756
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:28.000
whole like they show all this chaos and then it

757
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:31.200
says like six hours earlier, but like the chaos like

758
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.920
as you're watching, you're like, Okay, that's ridiculous, Okay, what

759
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.480
are they no? Literally because like it's not a big sploler.

760
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.279
It's literally the first two minutes of the movie, but

761
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:40.960
like you see like people fighting. At first, you know

762
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:42.640
what I thought it was. I thought it was gonna

763
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:44.559
be like Mayhem on a plane, like a drug was

764
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:46.759
gonna go in the air, and I went in completely blind.

765
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:49.039
I didn't know what it was about at all, so

766
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:50.559
I thought maybe it was gonna be like something in

767
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:52.319
the air was gonna make everybody go crazy on the

768
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.799
plane or something. But like, so they're all like fighting

769
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.119
and like people are getting like stabbed and punching its

770
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:58.279
own super slow motion.

771
00:33:58.440 --> 00:33:58.680
Yeah.

772
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:00.640
Then I look, you look over the pan over and

773
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:03.599
there's like these two women dressed like kung fu art

774
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:06.160
like martial artists, with their ponytails and everything. Yeah, and

775
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:07.799
they're like throwing kicks, and I was like, what the

776
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:11.000
And then it pans over and somebody throws a chainsaw

777
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.000
at the crowd, and then and then it's like six

778
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.519
hours earlier. Yeah, and I was sitting there alone. I

779
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:18.400
was alone in theater. I saw a ten pm show

780
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:22.639
on Tuesday night by myself, and I was like, I

781
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.840
was laughing so hard. I was like hearing it go

782
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:27.360
over her room because I was like, hat, yes, yeah,

783
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:32.000
So if by some chance, when you're hearing this where

784
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:33.119
you are, they still have it in the.

785
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:34.320
Theater, go see it.

786
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.400
I wish it hadn't just gotten dumped the way it did.

787
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:37.800
Yeah, because it was a hell of.

788
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.320
A lot of fun. Yeah, and I don't know what

789
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.679
happened why it didn't get a real boost, Like I

790
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:45.960
literally found out the movie existed when I was looking to.

791
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:48.119
See what was showing that I'd never seen a trailer

792
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:50.000
at all or anything. But that blows my mind.

793
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.719
Because we go to the movies like almost always every week,

794
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:55.400
We nearly always go to the movies. How do we

795
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:57.960
miss a trailer? I do not know because it's not

796
00:34:58.000 --> 00:34:59.800
like it was a trailer for like a little kid's

797
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.119
because we were only seing horror movies, I mean, a

798
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:04.480
bloody violent action movie, and all we were seeing were

799
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:09.119
bloody violent action type movies. But yeah, I really want

800
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:11.159
to put that out into the ether that like, if

801
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:13.960
you have a chance, go see Fight or Flight. It

802
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:20.039
was really great and Josh Hartnett really underutilized and at

803
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.880
like this movie showed me, Wow, he's capable of a

804
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.039
lot of great I mean, I've always liked him.

805
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:26.119
Yeah, man, he's good.

806
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:27.639
Yeah, he's really really good.

807
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:31.760
No, I'm very excited to check that out. So no,

808
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.239
too late, damn it. Carrie from nineteen seventy.

809
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.199
Six, Oh what about Carrie?

810
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.760
One hour, thirty eight minutes, rated R for intense horror, violence,

811
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:44.480
mature themes involving teams, graphic nudity, language, and some drug use,

812
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.159
and plugging it up and plugging it up. I'm d

813
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.519
synopsis says Carrie White, a shy, friendless teenage girl who

814
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.920
is sheltered by her domineering religious mother, unleashes her telekinetic

815
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:57.679
powers after being humiliated by her classmates at senior prom me.

816
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.840
I think that's pretty much. It's a it's a little

817
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:04.000
overly detailed, almost.

818
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.559
Abused by her fanatically religious mother at home, ridiculed by

819
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.400
bullies at school, Carrie White finds a new telekinetic power

820
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:11.480
she possesses once a prank pushes her too far, with

821
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.119
deadly consequences for those involved.

822
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:14.639
Pretty solid too.

823
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:18.440
Taglines, Oh we got some well.

824
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:21.719
This is what seventy six? Yes, okay, I've just I

825
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:25.480
like to contextualize, like, because marketing was very different in

826
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:28.280
the seventies than even four or five years later in

827
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.039
the eighties. Yeah, then especially the nineties to now.

828
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:33.760
Well, and if you watch the trailer that we had

829
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:35.960
the beading of the show as well, all the trailers

830
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:37.960
are just like, if you like fear, you have a

831
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.320
date with Carrie like the date with Carrie was one

832
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:41.079
of the biggest things.

833
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:42.199
So that's clever. I like that.

834
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:46.000
Yeah, taglines, you were warned to never push Carrie to

835
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:49.239
the limits. Now you must face the evil consequences.

836
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:54.400
I mean, like I said, it's a different Erah, things

837
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:57.159
were not quite so snappy all the time. And also

838
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:02.119
but also Carrie had the power of being based on

839
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:04.320
a very successful.

840
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:06.880
Book, his very first successful book we're talking into. Yeah,

841
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:11.360
take Carrie to the Prom, I dare you. I like

842
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:15.039
that one. Carrie may look perfectly innocent, but she'll shock

843
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.320
you right out of your seat, And that's a promise.

844
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:19.960
I like. That's a little cheesy, but I like that.

845
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:24.679
A chilling blend of American graffiti and psycho the fuck

846
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.679
the story of a lonely teenage girl who possesses a

847
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:32.639
strange and evil power that turns high school prom into

848
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:33.320
a nightmare.

849
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.320
Okay, that's almost a synopsis more than a tagline.

850
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.480
The bone chilling classic based on the novel by Stephen King.

851
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:41.920
Never heard of It.

852
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.920
You will know her name? I like that one. If

853
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.559
you've got to taste for terror, Take Carrie to the Prom.

854
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:52.000
Someone's all right too, if.

855
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.920
Only they knew she had the power. Eh.

856
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:55.480
I like that.

857
00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:58.159
If you've got to taste for terror, that you then

858
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.960
you have a date with Carrie wants the same thing.

859
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:04.679
If the Exorcist made you shudder, Carrie will make you scream.

860
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:05.480
That's good.

861
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:06.039
I like that one.

862
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:07.920
That's No, that's a really solid one, especially because you've

863
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.719
got two big movies based on big books. Yeah, so

864
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:12.960
actually that's a really good one.

865
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:13.519
Solid you know.

866
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.880
That's that's a solid way to reference something that people liked.

867
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:18.280
They weren't the same studio.

868
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:21.840
I don't think no, No, the Exorcist was Warner Brothers

869
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:25.000
and Carrie is paramount.

870
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:26.239
I think you're right.

871
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.039
Yeah, Carrie is currently had a little stream on Max

872
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:31.880
and rentable through Prime and Fandango right now. Our director

873
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:33.679
and one of the writers on the film is mister

874
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:37.639
Brian de Palma, writer and director on Murder Alamode In

875
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.320
nineteen sixty eight, Greetings in sixty eight, The Wedding Party,

876
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:44.000
sixty nine, High Mom nineteen seventy, Sisters in seventy two,

877
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.519
Phantom of the Paradise seventy four, Obsession seventy six, Home

878
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:51.079
Movie seventy nine, Just to Kill nineteen eighty, Blowout eighty one,

879
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:54.760
Body double eighty four, Raising Caine ninety two, Snake Eyes

880
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.599
ninety eight, fem Fetal two thousand and two, Sisters Remake

881
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:00.679
in two thousand and six, Redacted to two thousand and seven,

882
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:03.119
and Passion in twenty twelve. He also is the director

883
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:05.039
in nineteen seventy two on Get to Know Your Rabbit,

884
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.360
Carrie in seventy six, The Fury in seventy eight, Scarface

885
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:11.159
in eighty three, Frankie goes to Hollywood Video for Relax

886
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:14.320
in eighty four, Wise Guys in eighty six, The Untouchables

887
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.400
in eighty seven, Casualties of War in eighty nine, Bonfire

888
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:20.280
the Vanity Is in nineteen ninety, Carlito's Way in ninety three,

889
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.599
Better than Scarface in my opinion, Mission Impossible in ninety six,

890
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:26.400
Mission to Mars two thousand, Black Dahlia two thousand and six,

891
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:30.760
and Domino in two thousand and nine. Kerrie was United Artists,

892
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:33.960
United Artists, and so now they're MGMGM, yeah, yeah, So

893
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:36.280
I mean you and you're right close enough, close enough.

894
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:39.000
Writer on the film as well for the novel is

895
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:41.960
mister Stevie King. He gets his start with Carrie as

896
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:43.639
a writer in nineteen seventy six and goes on to

897
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:46.679
do Salem's Lot, The Shining, Creep Show, Coujoe, The Dead Zone, Christine,

898
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:49.679
Children of the Corn, Firestarter, Kat's Eye, Silver Bullet, Maxim Overdrive,

899
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:52.199
stand By Me, Creep Show two, Return to Salem's Lot,

900
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.239
Running Man, pet Cemetery, Tales in the Dark Side of

901
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:57.239
the Movie, Graveyard, Shift It, Misery, Sometimes They Come Back,

902
00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.840
Golden Years, The Lawnmower Man with Sleepwalkers, The Dark he

903
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:03.199
Tommy Knocker's Needful Things, The stand Shawshank, Redemption, The Mangler,

904
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:07.039
Dolores Claiborne, Langelier's Thinner, Quicksilver Highway, The Night Flyer, The

905
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.480
Shining Trucks, APT Pupils, Storm of the Century, Raged Carry two,

906
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:14.239
Green Mile, Hearts in Atlantis, Rose Red Carrie, DreamCatcher, Secret Windows,

907
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.920
Salem's Lock, Kingdom Hospital, Right in the Bullet Desperation, Nightmares,

908
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:18.840
and Dreamscave the Mist in two thousand and seven. I'm

909
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:20.679
stopping at twenty seven fourteen o eight as well.

910
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:23.559
So first of all, I'm on pain medicine. Yeah, and

911
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:25.719
you just spoke the fastest I think I've ever heard

912
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:29.119
you speak, probably, so number one M did he actually

913
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.840
have anything to do with carry two other than characters characters?

914
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:35.119
So so was that one in lawnmower Man You just

915
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:35.639
be in a dick?

916
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:37.760
Yeah, I mean there's several there me being a dick

917
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:39.599
a lot of them.

918
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.639
Well, lawnmower Man was supposed to be based on a

919
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:44.480
short story, but they didn't use it.

920
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:46.800
There is apparently from what I found on IMDD. I

921
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:48.679
don't know how widely available it is, but there is

922
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.599
a twenty minute short that came out like five years

923
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:52.440
after that short.

924
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:54.159
Stor was one of his like what were they called

925
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:57.199
dollar Babies or yeah, dollar Babies where Stephen King I

926
00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:01.079
think he still does this, will option his short stories

927
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:04.360
to film students for a dollar. I believe it is.

928
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.000
So you send Steve King a dollar and you have

929
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:10.119
the right to make your college short based on it.

930
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:11.920
And I've heard that it's it's pretty good.

931
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:13.360
Yeah for what college short.

932
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:13.679
Yeah.

933
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:15.599
Other writer on the film is Laurence D.

934
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:15.960
Cohen.

935
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:18.199
He gets to start writing Carrie in nineteen seventy six,

936
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:21.280
he pens the screenplay, then does Ghost Story in eighty one.

937
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:22.960
Have you seen ghost Story, by the way, based on

938
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:25.920
the Peters strab nodel. Yeah, that movie is fucking wild,

939
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:29.079
It's a good one. It in nineteen ninety he doesn't

940
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:31.760
teleplay for Okay, The Tommy Knockers in ninety three, doesn't

941
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:34.159
teleplay for South Pacific in two thousand and one, Nightmares

942
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.559
and Dreamscapes two thousand and six, the Carrie remake. It

943
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.679
gets screenplay credit four in twenty thirteen and most recently

944
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:40.760
in twenty eighteen Riverdale.

945
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:47.039
So in the realm of Stephen King adaptations, Yeah, I

946
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.280
grew up in a time where that was very commonly,

947
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:53.920
Like the tape my mom would grab because she knew

948
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:57.639
that name. Yeah, so I saw it, the double tape.

949
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.159
I remember we rented that from the library. Remember that.

950
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:01.840
Do you remember if it was the classic cover that

951
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:03.679
has the novel with the clock himing up, or if

952
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:05.280
it was Penny Wise on it.

953
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.079
I think I had Penny Wise on it. But we're

954
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:10.519
talking a long time ago. We're talking like this was

955
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.079
like right when the tapes came out. Yeah, roughly, but

956
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:15.639
I wanted to mention but yeah, so they were just

957
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:17.679
like I have a very soft spot for like sometimes

958
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:19.840
they come back, sometimes they come back again, sometimes they

959
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:21.880
come back for more. I have a very soft spot

960
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:24.760
for golden years. I have a very soft spot for

961
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:27.199
Yeat's eye one mild time favorites that size a good one.

962
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.559
But I want to mention real quick, I think and

963
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:33.039
I'm not one hundred percent willing to like forever this,

964
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:35.559
but I think my favorite DiPalma is Blowout.

965
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:36.719
Blowout's fantastic.

966
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:40.159
I think that that is such a phenomenal film, And

967
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:42.440
I do wonder if the reason he cast Travolta was

968
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:45.239
they got to know each other on Kerry because Travolta

969
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.239
is great in carry but it's very early in his career,

970
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.760
so he's you know, playing a like third banana, fourth banana.

971
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:53.440
There's probably a good chance that several dipomas will hit

972
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:55.480
the show at some point, especially Carlito's way, because I

973
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:57.199
could talk its.

974
00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:58.880
Forget he did that one. Yeah, which is a good

975
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:02.760
thing because I love Dipoma's stylistic elements and we'll talk

976
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:04.800
about that a lot in here. Yeah, I do, really

977
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.880
really do. But I'm glad he's not like a Tim

978
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.840
Burton where I struggle to remember what movie I'm thinking of,

979
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:14.159
or a more modern like a Wes Anderson where like

980
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:17.559
I'm sorry, like I struggle like was that bottle rocket

981
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:19.000
or was that the Royal ten in Bombs or was

982
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:21.159
that the Life Aquatic? I don't like they all. They

983
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.760
all look so similar and have such similar casts a

984
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:24.360
lot of the time.

985
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:24.719
YEP.

986
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.519
It doesn't mean they're not entertaining movies, but likely, but

987
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:29.519
it does, Like sometimes it frustrates me. I literally am like,

988
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.280
I don't, I don't. I couldn't tell you what movie

989
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:34.559
that was from, Like I'll quote it and laugh and

990
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:35.599
they'd be like, which one was that?

991
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:39.039
So our cinematographer on the film is Mario Tossi. He

992
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:41.360
gets his start in nineteen sixty four as a DP

993
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:43.239
on How to Succeed with Girls, goes on to do

994
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:45.840
Cinderella in the Golden Brown in sixty four, Swamp Country

995
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:48.840
in sixty six, The Glory Stoppers Tear in the Jungle,

996
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:53.559
hot Rod Action Legendary Stompers, Glory Stoppers. Then in nineteen

997
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:57.280
seventy two he shoots a little film called Frogs. Cinematographer

998
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.000
of Frogs, who whoa, whoa, whoa.

999
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.599
But in seventy two, so like four years later he's like, yeah,

1000
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:04.239
de Palma is like, let's do this.

1001
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:06.800
So then he shoots Frogs in seventy two, Outside In

1002
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.039
in seventy two, The Marcus Nelson murders in seventy three,

1003
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.360
The Killing Kind, some call it loving, a Summer without Boys,

1004
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.119
The Stranger who looks who looks like Me? Buster and

1005
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.840
Billy in seventy four, Reflections of a Murder in seventy four,

1006
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.199
Reports of the Commissioner smoking, the win friendly persuasion, Hearts

1007
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:23.320
of the West, does Carrie in seventy six, then goes

1008
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:26.440
on to shoot Sybil in seventy six, Oh Wow, MacArthur

1009
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:30.039
in seventy seven, The Betsy. Main event. The Stuntman in

1010
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.239
nineteen eighty was Steve Railsback. Have you ever seen that?

1011
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:35.960
I don't know, but that eight Silsback plays a convict

1012
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.360
that stumbles upon a movie set and volunteers to be

1013
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:40.599
a stuntman to avoid the law.

1014
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:42.960
That has to be based on true story. Because stuntman

1015
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:47.280
back in those days it was like any like it

1016
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:49.880
was like pro wrestlers and stuntman and they were all

1017
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:51.960
like kind of almost carnies. Yeah, they just kind of

1018
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.599
found work that wasn't in the straight world.

1019
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:57.599
O'Toole knows who he is, puts him through hell.

1020
00:44:58.119 --> 00:44:59.320
That also sounds like show business.

1021
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:02.599
It's a really good flow. Chould's Great Resurrection in nineteen eighty,

1022
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:04.840
Coast to Coast nineteen eighty, Whose Life Is It Anyway?

1023
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:08.000
In eighty one, six Pack in eighty two with Kenny Rodgers,

1024
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:11.679
then his final entry as a Sheena Easton video for

1025
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:14.960
Eternity in eighty seven. He passed November eleventh, twenty twenty one,

1026
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.559
at age eighty six. Death cause was undisclosed.

1027
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:21.000
Oh he retired really early. Yeah, well, I feel bad

1028
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:22.960
for him because he never worked for Diploma again, no,

1029
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:26.800
which is shocking. Yeah, did DiPalma have a go to DP?

1030
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:28.679
I mean he did, Yeah, he did.

1031
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:30.599
I can't remember who it was because yeah, there's somebody

1032
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:33.199
in here that he does use repeatedly. Not not in here,

1033
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:35.039
but there's somebody that he did use repeatedly. And also

1034
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:40.199
Mario was the second hired because the original cinematographer was Isadormfowski,

1035
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:42.760
but he had Dipaloma had creative issues and.

1036
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:47.639
I was I was about to say that Dipalma's obsession

1037
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:51.360
with visuals, Yeah, I'm sure could be very challenging.

1038
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:52.760
Oh yeah, because.

1039
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:56.960
The dichotomy between director and director of photography is something

1040
00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:58.920
I've never had to really struggle with because I'm my

1041
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:02.400
own director of photography, which is nice because you have

1042
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.840
a shorthand in your own brain. You know, you don't

1043
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:07.159
have to sit there and be like, can we try

1044
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:09.079
this lens? Could we do this or that?

1045
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:09.599
Yeah?

1046
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.079
You know, it's like no, I know what I'm gonna do.

1047
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:13.880
And that's one of the things I like, you know, people,

1048
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:16.920
I hate when people bitch about like Soderberg or bitch

1049
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:22.800
about Rodriguez. Yeah, like because he likes to DP his

1050
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.039
own stuff, but the studios like wouldn't let him. Yeah,

1051
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:27.599
so it became where he would be the camera op

1052
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:31.639
which I also always respect about Robert Riguez was that

1053
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:33.000
he'd be like, well, I have to operate the camera

1054
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:35.760
because like, that's how I feel like I'm in the

1055
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.159
moment making the movie, is that I'm like on the camera.

1056
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:38.519
Yeah.

1057
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:41.639
I can appreciate that. And I love that Soderberg just

1058
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:43.519
flat out has a fake name he uses and he's like,

1059
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:45.800
that's my fake name for deep name because idp.

1060
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:46.280
All my own movies.

1061
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:48.719
Yep. And I saw you need to watch Black Bag

1062
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:51.119
now that it's on streaming, because I really loved Black Bag.

1063
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.440
But the weird thing about that was people were like

1064
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:55.840
the photography was really a weird choice and I watched it.

1065
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:57.480
I was like, this looks cool. There were a few

1066
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.679
There was like one scene where I could tell he

1067
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:05.239
was intentionally breaking the line which is the eye line,

1068
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:09.000
and the scene is really kind of kinetic and confusing

1069
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:10.800
on purpose. It's not I mean, it's a dialogue scene,

1070
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.840
it's not an action scene. But I didn't care. I

1071
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:16.920
was like, man, this is cool. So I just want

1072
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:18.719
to mention that, Like, I can only imagine what it

1073
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:22.199
would be like to be Dipaalma's DP, because diploma's over there. Like,

1074
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:24.599
he has a very specific idea of what to do

1075
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:27.920
with lenses. He's very into split diopter photography. He's very

1076
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:31.199
into doing split screens and things like that, and that's

1077
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:33.840
all stuff that you really have to plan heavily. I mean,

1078
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:35.519
I've worked with a split diopter a few times. I'll

1079
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.760
talk about it more when we're kind of like talking

1080
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.360
about some of the great shots in the film. There

1081
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:43.559
are plenty of them, but it's a tough lens to use. Granted,

1082
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:47.119
I use it on like short like short schedule movies too,

1083
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:48.559
so it's like the fact that you have to move

1084
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:49.599
everything to line it up.

1085
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:51.360
Is Christmas Presence was that the first time you used it,

1086
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:53.000
because I feel like that's when you showed it to

1087
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:53.440
all of us.

1088
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:59.199
Well, I discovered something, David. For years and years and years,

1089
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:01.519
I always heard about split di after this Split Die

1090
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:04.480
after that. What actually made me aware of split diopters

1091
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:09.840
was I was watching some piece of media about Star

1092
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:13.239
Trek that Deep Stays nine and there are a lot

1093
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:16.199
of episodes, especially the later run, where people use split

1094
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:19.559
diopter lenses, which then I realized they use them like

1095
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.360
crazy in Star Trek the motion picture because they had

1096
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:25.039
all these scenes where people were, you know, far apart,

1097
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:27.280
but they're all talking to each other. They actually created

1098
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:29.239
a diapter that was in the middle of the frame,

1099
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:30.639
so somebody could be in the middle up close.

1100
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:31.039
Wow.

1101
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:33.320
So what a split diapter is, just to run it

1102
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:35.159
down real quick, is it allows you have something in

1103
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.679
focus in the foreground and in the background at the

1104
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.559
same time. So you could have somebody's face right up

1105
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:42.800
to the lens fully in focus, and there's a little

1106
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.559
split you could you hopefully can't see, and then you

1107
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:47.679
get somebody in focus way in the background. It creates

1108
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.960
an odd but gorgeous kind of sense makes sense, But

1109
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:54.719
I'd always heard split dia after this, split die after that.

1110
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:57.480
And I'd always heard how how annoying they were to

1111
00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:59.239
work with, and I'd always heard how they could be

1112
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.960
very challenginglah blah blah. Well, one day I found out,

1113
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:07.320
as as movies started being shot on digital photo cameras

1114
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.760
and stuff, people were using interchangeable lenses. They were using

1115
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.599
different types of lenses, but they accomplished the same things

1116
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.840
as a cinema lens. So I was poking around one

1117
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:19.719
day and I found this thing called a split field adapter,

1118
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:22.360
and I was like, what the hell the split field adaptor?

1119
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.400
So I looked at all the tutorials. It's a split diopter.

1120
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:26.480
It's just that's what they call it in photography. I

1121
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:29.559
bought one for like eleven dollars. I have I have

1122
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:34.960
literally a whole kit of different diopters that are just

1123
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.960
split field adapters. Yeah, in my camera bag, just in

1124
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:39.480
case I feel like it.

1125
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:39.800
Yeah.

1126
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.079
Like, but I had been told forever like this is

1127
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:43.159
a big thing, and this is you have to have

1128
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:44.519
all these things, and you have to all this stuff.

1129
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.519
And I was like, that's weird because photographers just screwed

1130
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:49.199
them on the front of their damn lenses. So split

1131
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:53.239
field adapter. You can buy those for dirt cheap. And yeah,

1132
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:57.000
so anyway, but uh, it's an interesting concept in cinematography, absolutely,

1133
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.599
But yeah, Dipoma loves his in interesting shots.

1134
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:02.039
He knows that he knows what he wants and he

1135
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:02.840
knows how to get it.

1136
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:04.679
By firing people.

1137
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.760
That is very true. So normally I'm not one to

1138
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.280
bring up the music on the show, but I've got

1139
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:13.679
to give props to this composer because this is Pino Donagio,

1140
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:19.599
and Piano Donagio gets his fish or red Meat, gets

1141
00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:21.800
his start on a little movie that I actually discovered

1142
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:24.480
about a year ago, now, nineteen seventy threes, don't look

1143
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:27.239
now with Donald Sutherlands. Oh that's his first time scoring.

1144
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.239
But then he goes on to do carry in seventy

1145
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.440
six Piranha Turist Trap.

1146
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:33.920
That's where piranhas where I know that name, Yeah, i'd

1147
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:38.039
heard it before. It was on Piranhastrap Tourist Trapp.

1148
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:42.039
Dressed to Kill. He also did the Black Cat, the Fan, Blowout,

1149
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:46.880
Beyond the Door, Body Double, Berlin Affair, Savage Dawn, Crawl

1150
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.400
Space Beyond the Door, and then what was the one

1151
00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:54.039
after that Beyond the Door was a body double.

1152
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:56.280
Body double, but that's my place, like, yeah that those

1153
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:58.440
are very a different world apart.

1154
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:01.320
Also Canon Hercules with Lou Farigno.

1155
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:01.840
That's what's up.

1156
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:05.440
But yeah, Pino di Naggio's score in this movie especially

1157
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:08.239
is so memorable that once when I was watching Yesterday

1158
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:10.800
and it started playing the scene when Carrie's mom is

1159
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:12.559
coming at her in the house, I was just like,

1160
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.760
holy shit, I remember this this theme because it's so haunting,

1161
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:16.559
it's so beautiful.

1162
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:18.639
I have a bunch of opinions about that scene after

1163
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:19.199
rewatching it.

1164
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:20.119
Oh, can't wait.

1165
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:22.199
We'll see if I remember them. We'll see if the

1166
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:25.400
hopefully the hopefully the pain medicine wears off, except I

1167
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:27.000
hope it doesn't because I don't want to scream in

1168
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:28.079
pain the whole show.

1169
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.519
Oh, moving down to our cast, we have Sissy SpaceX,

1170
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:32.440
who plays Carry White in the film. Gets her start

1171
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.639
in a little film from nineteen seventy two called Prime Cut.

1172
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:37.679
Oh yeah, that's her first movie.

1173
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.400
Yeah, introducing Sissy SpaceX. So does Prime Cut in seventy two?

1174
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:44.079
Love American Style in sixty nine, or actually, wait, Love

1175
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:46.559
American Style sixty nine seventy two? Though I might have

1176
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:48.800
sucked that up either way, Walton's in seventy three, bad

1177
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.800
Land seventy three, The Migrant, Ginger in the Morning, Catherine

1178
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:54.440
Carrie in seventy six, Welcome to La followed by three

1179
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:58.719
women coal Miner's Daughter, Heartbeat, Raggedy Man, Man with Two Brains,

1180
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:01.920
The River Marie, and eighty five Violets Are Blue, Crimes

1181
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:04.920
of the Heart, Hard Promises in ninety one, JFK in

1182
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.880
ninety one, Trading Mom, A Place for Annie, The Grassharp

1183
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:11.320
Streets of Laredo, If these Walls could talk, Affliction, Blasts

1184
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:13.760
from the Past, The Straight Story in ninety nine, In

1185
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:17.719
the Bedroom, Midwives, Last Call, Tuck, Everlasting, nine Lives, The

1186
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:19.800
Ring two in two thousand and five, Yeah Yeah, Yeah,

1187
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.360
North Country and American Haunting, hot Rod two thousand and seven,

1188
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:26.360
Lake City, The Four Christmases, Get Low Big Love in

1189
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:29.760
twenty ten, I Loved her character and Get Bigig Love, Yeah,

1190
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:32.000
The Help in twenty eleven, Dead Fall, The Old Man

1191
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:34.519
and the Gun, Castle Rock in twenty eighteen, Homecoming in

1192
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:36.800
twenty eighteen, Night Sky in twenty twenty two, and most

1193
00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:39.280
recently this year, Dying for Sex in twenty twenty five.

1194
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:41.519
Haven't seen that one I have not either.

1195
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:42.360
It might not be out yet.

1196
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:45.679
We're only just we're getting close to halfway through the year.

1197
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:48.800
We are Piper Laurie, who plays Margaret White in the film,

1198
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:50.840
who is one of the two that we are dedicating

1199
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:52.599
this episode two because we had two people that have

1200
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.800
fallen since we have started doing May We Rest in Peace.

1201
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:58.119
Piper Laurie was back in twenty twenty three, but we

1202
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:01.639
wanted to originally include her to be the reason for

1203
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:03.960
the listener requests, but we actually did have another person,

1204
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:06.239
but Piper Laurie, who plays Margaret White, gets her starting

1205
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:09.719
nineteen fifty on Louisa the Milkman in fifty Francis Goes

1206
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:12.360
to the Races? Has anybody seen My Goal? The Mississippi

1207
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:16.400
Gambler Johnny Dark in fifty four, Donna Soroco ain't misbehaving

1208
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:19.519
Kelly and Me until they sail Playhouse ninety and fifty six,

1209
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:22.639
The Hustler Naked City breaking point in sixty three, and

1210
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:26.280
then she retires from acting. It wasn't until she got

1211
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:29.199
the screenplay in seventy six for Carrie that she decided

1212
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:30.920
to come back, so she just carry in seventy six,

1213
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:35.480
Ruby the Boss's Son, tim The Bunker, May West, The Thornbirds,

1214
00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:39.360
Saint Elsewhere, Hotel Murder. She wrote in eighty four, Returned

1215
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:41.760
to Oz in eighty five, Tender is the Night, Tough Love,

1216
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:44.599
The Twilight Zone, Children of a Lesser God, Matt Locke

1217
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.800
Promised appointment with Death, Tiger Warsaw, Mother, Mother, Beauty and

1218
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:50.719
the Beast, Dream a Little Dream in eighty nine, Twin

1219
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:53.039
Peaks in eighty nine, Other People's Money, Rich in Love,

1220
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:56.639
Daria Argentis Trauma in ninety three, Lies in Lallaby's Shadow

1221
00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:59.920
of Desire, The Crossing Guard, The Grass harp Er, Diagnosis, Murder,

1222
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.480
Touched by an Angel, Christmas Memory, The Faculty in ninety seven.

1223
00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:08.119
Yes She's so good and so good, The Faculty frasier inherit,

1224
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:10.960
The Wind, Will and Grace Eulogy, Dead Like Me, The

1225
00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:14.360
Dead Girl hesher bad Bloods. Snapshots White Boy Rick in

1226
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:17.119
twenty eighteen and twenty twenty one. She does around the Sun.

1227
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:20.079
She passed back in October fourteenth of twenty twenty three,

1228
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:23.480
ninety one of old age ninety one, ninety one.

1229
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:26.880
That's wild. I didn't know that she had retired. Carrie

1230
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:28.719
brought her out, but Carrie didn't just bring her out

1231
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:30.760
of retirement. I mean it brought her back to a

1232
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:32.719
full blown career.

1233
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:35.159
So I will talk about it in the trivia. But

1234
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:37.719
she thought it was a comedy, so originally when she

1235
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.159
was shooting her scenes as the mother, she was going

1236
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:43.199
even more outrageous and Depaulma had to pull her aside

1237
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.599
and be like, Piper, this isn't a comedy. Like you're

1238
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:48.480
a terrifying character, Like you can be over the top,

1239
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:51.159
but like you have to be over the top restrained

1240
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:53.000
as somebody that is mentally Unwell.

1241
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.800
Wait, Carrie's not a comedy. Then why do they bully

1242
00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.320
the nerds so bad? I mean, that's that's good. It's good.

1243
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:02.760
So moving down. We also have Amy Irving, who plays

1244
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:04.719
Soussnew in the film. She gets a started in seventy

1245
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:06.920
five and the Rookies. Goes on to do Police Woman

1246
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:10.079
in seventy five, Happy Days, Panash Carrie in seventy six,

1247
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:14.199
Once an Eagle, The Fury in seventy eight, Voices Honeysuckle Rose,

1248
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.199
the Competition, Yentel in eighty three, Mickey and maud Rumpel

1249
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:20.400
Stilskin not that one. She's having a baby in eighty eight.

1250
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:24.599
Oh h Oh yeah Yeah, Crossing Delancey, The Velveteen Rabbit,

1251
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:27.000
Casualties of War, A Show of Force in American Tail,

1252
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:30.760
Fible Goes West, Benefit of Doubt, Kleptomania, Carried Away, I'm

1253
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:34.880
Not Rapaport, Deconstructing Harry One, Tough Cop, The Confession Rage

1254
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:38.440
Carry Two in ninety nine, Spin City BOSSA Nova Cop,

1255
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:42.159
The or Excuse Traffic Thirteen Confessions About One Thing, Law

1256
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:46.760
and Order, SVU Tuck Everlasting, Hide and Seek alias Adam House,

1257
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:49.800
Zero Hour, The Good Wife in twenty fifteen, Unsaint Speaking

1258
00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:52.119
Soderberg in twenty eighteen, Oh Yeah, I liked I liked on,

1259
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:56.199
it was good, The Affair in twenty eighteen, Confetti in

1260
00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:58.000
twenty twenty one, and a Mouthful of Air in twenty

1261
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.280
twenty one, and then wrapping us up cast Why is

1262
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:02.679
the person that we lost recently? Which was Priscilla Pointer

1263
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:04.840
here who plays missus Snell, which is Sue Sall's mom

1264
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:07.119
in the movie. She gets her start in nineteen fifty

1265
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:09.239
four with the New Adventures of China. Smith goes on

1266
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:12.480
to do NYPD The High Chaparral the name of the game.

1267
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:14.920
Death Takes a Holiday in seventy one, McLeod Where the

1268
00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:19.000
Heart Is Adam twelve, Camera three, Rockford Files, Kojack Cannon,

1269
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:22.880
Harry O, Policewoman, City of Angels, The Great Texas Dynamite Chase,

1270
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:27.039
Phyllis Carrie in seventy six, Nickelodeon seventy six, Barnaby Jones,

1271
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:29.480
three thousand Mile Chase, A Killing a Flare, Looking for

1272
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:32.920
Mister Goodbar, Missus Colombo, The Onion Field, Notts Landing From

1273
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:36.840
Here to Eternity, Honeysuckle Rose, The Competition, Lou Grant, Mommy Dearis,

1274
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:40.800
Judgment Day, Mysterious two, Goodbye, Cruel World, Dallas, Quincy m e.

1275
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.880
The eighteen Twilight's On the Movie in eighty three, Okay,

1276
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:46.960
she is in the Kick the Can segment. I love

1277
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:48.280
that segment, such a good segment.

1278
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:50.400
That's I always forget that's in Twilight's on the movie

1279
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:52.679
because that's you know what, that that that always made

1280
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:56.239
me think of amazing story they kipisaid, okay or the

1281
00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:57.239
segment Yeah.

1282
00:56:57.320 --> 00:56:59.760
Saint elsewhere in eighty four, Mickey and Maud Falcon in

1283
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:03.039
The No Man called a Glory Blue Velvet, Amazing Stories

1284
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:05.440
from the Hip in eighty seven. Then in eighty seven

1285
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:08.159
she also does Nightmarre and elm Street three Dream Warriors.

1286
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:10.559
Yes, that's where I when I saw her in this

1287
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:13.280
movie immediately was like, oh, yeah, do you remember when

1288
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:14.840
they interviewed her about her role in that?

1289
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:15.679
I don't.

1290
00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:19.480
I believe it was, yeah, the interview again. Yeah, they

1291
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:21.559
interviewed her and she was just like Adam, She was like,

1292
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:23.840
my character was a good guy. Yeah, my character was

1293
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:26.760
legitimately looking out for those children and everything that was

1294
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:29.519
being told to her was insane. And I love how

1295
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:32.119
she was like still in that headspace of like because

1296
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:34.039
because she played the character very well, she never came

1297
00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:37.239
across as needlessly cruel. No, although she did literally say

1298
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:40.159
like what these kids need is some good rem sleep. Yeah,

1299
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:43.000
And I was like, Oh, that's that's a that's the problem.

1300
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:43.800
That is how they go.

1301
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:46.119
Then again, if there was no problem, there'd be no movies. Yeah,

1302
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:46.559
they have it.

1303
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:51.400
So Also in that same year, does Rumpel Stilskin, racksed Riches,

1304
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:55.000
New Heart, La Law, Chud two, Bud, The Chill Though

1305
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:58.760
I'm Not One, run Away Eric CB, A Cry for Help.

1306
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:02.719
Should Chud two? Yeah, The Chud, Bud, The Hud, Show of.

1307
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:05.760
Force, The Flash, My Life in Times Runaway Father, the

1308
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:08.960
painted desert er, picket fences, touched by an angel, carried

1309
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:11.880
away desert heat John claudebandam in ninety nine. Hell yeah,

1310
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:14.599
judging Amy, cold case sweet, nothing in my ear and

1311
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:18.760
then she unfortunately left us. Was April second, or actually

1312
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:22.920
April twenty eighth, of this past of this year old age.

1313
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:26.719
Basically sure, yeah, I mean that's a long storied career.

1314
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:29.880
Interesting thing. Her and Amy Irving mother and daughter.

1315
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:33.400
What mm Hmmy Irving.

1316
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:37.559
Who plays Sue real life mother and daughter in the movie. Yeah,

1317
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:41.400
I just want to yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy because

1318
00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:43.000
there's some trivia that I'll get into at the end

1319
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:45.719
of the show about about one scene in particular where

1320
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:47.239
she forgot that that was her daughter.

1321
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:49.920
I'm curious.

1322
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:51.920
Oh, we'll get there. Door. So, what was your first

1323
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:52.719
time watching Carrie?

1324
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:56.320
I couldn't completely tell you. Yeah, because it was a

1325
00:58:56.480 --> 00:59:00.519
ubiquitous horror movie. It was by the time I was,

1326
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:04.440
you know, watching movies a lot as a young man,

1327
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:09.119
very young man. It was ubiquitous on TV. Everyone talked

1328
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:11.400
about it. It got put on DVD right at the

1329
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:13.920
beginning of DVD, so I remember renting it on DVD.

1330
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:15.599
At some point snapcase didn't it.

1331
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:20.039
Yeah, But I remember it being on television a lot,

1332
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:25.480
and I remember finding it pretty scary, and I wish

1333
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:28.920
I could remember, like really remember watching it on TV,

1334
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:31.280
like on four x three TV, because it was a

1335
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:34.800
DePalma movie with all these crazy I might I might

1336
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.119
have seen it on Monster Vision. I could believe that

1337
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:38.800
I could absolutely and that might have been one that

1338
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:40.000
might have been the first time I watched it all

1339
00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:41.519
the way through might have been on Monster Vision.

1340
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:45.400
And I bet we can find the countdown or driving totals.

1341
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:49.840
It's always been just an ubiquitous part of horror history

1342
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:54.559
that Carrie is a scary movie. It's brilliantly directed. Sissy

1343
00:59:54.599 --> 01:00:00.880
Spasic is incredible as Carrie. That was a career establishing

1344
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:05.199
film for her. And it's one of those movies that

1345
01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:07.679
my memory of it, maybe because I first saw it

1346
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:11.039
on television, is not that accurate compared to when I

1347
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:13.519
revisit it. I'm like, man, this movie's meaner than I remember.

1348
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:15.199
There's a lot of nakedness.

1349
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:16.800
Yeah, and especially in the opening.

1350
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:18.599
Well yeah, well, and I want to talk about that

1351
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:20.719
when we when we start out, because I think the

1352
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:25.400
opening is so clever. But I that's that was a

1353
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:27.719
movie that just always existed. Oh yeah, And I feel

1354
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:29.519
that way about a lot of classics if they were

1355
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:32.800
like earlier than nineteen eighty because you know, really noticing

1356
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:34.920
movies for me would have been in nineteen ninety, ninety one,

1357
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:36.960
ninety two. Yeah, you know, I was really into the teens.

1358
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:39.239
The Turtles movie was really a determinator. I was really

1359
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:41.159
those things were just hitting. But there were a lot

1360
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:42.760
there were a lot of movies that were just always

1361
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:44.199
around and Carrie was was there.

1362
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:46.800
Yeah, what about you? Same thing for me. This is like,

1363
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:49.400
like I said at the top of the show, rewatching

1364
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:51.800
this last night opened up a part of my brain

1365
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:54.360
of really deep diving into how long this movie's been

1366
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:55.719
in my life. And it's been in there a long

1367
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:57.960
time because Carrie was introduced to me by my parents

1368
01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:00.719
because it was on TV. And now truly I would

1369
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:02.239
watch the view of my parents and like, if something

1370
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:04.760
you know, was coming on the movie that wasn't good,

1371
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:06.119
they would either change the channel or like tell me

1372
01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:10.280
to hide my eyes. I remember distinctly my parents both

1373
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:12.559
sharing with me how much Carrie scared them when they

1374
01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:15.199
saw it in theaters. My dad born in nineteen sixty,

1375
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:16.920
so he would have been like right around sixteen when

1376
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:20.239
it came out. Is not a horror fan by any

1377
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:22.280
you know this, Like, my dad's not a horror fan

1378
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.159
by any stretch of the imagination. But there are two

1379
01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:26.000
movies to this day that I can still get him

1380
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:28.840
to watch, which is Carrie and Jaws, And both of

1381
01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:31.440
those movies my parents both have stories about seeing in

1382
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:34.760
the theater, specifically with the ending of Carrie, which you

1383
01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:36.800
know is not a spoiler at this point. You know

1384
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:39.320
that that hand coming out of the grave at the

1385
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:43.559
end is a notoriously like top scary moment in movie

1386
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:44.679
history still to this day.

1387
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.039
And didn't no one but the studio want it if

1388
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.840
yeah remember correctly. Yeah, it was smart to end on

1389
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:50.639
a big shot.

1390
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:52.880
Yeah. So, I mean Carrie was a movie that, like

1391
01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:55.199
you said, it was always on TV. So it was

1392
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:58.360
my first introduction, I would say, into horror because of

1393
01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:00.719
just it was one that I remember my parents watching,

1394
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:02.800
not all the time, but if it was on TV,

1395
01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:04.440
there was a good chance that it would get popped on,

1396
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:06.239
especially if it was towards the end with the prom

1397
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:09.320
and everything. Yeah, but it was a movie that made

1398
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:12.400
me not only take notice of movies in general. But

1399
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:15.039
like I started learning who the actors were, I started

1400
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.199
learning more about Brian de Palma, and like my mom

1401
01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:18.800
would like tell me about some of his movies, like

1402
01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:21.960
specifically like Dressed to Kill and like Body Double. Of course,

1403
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:23.599
you know when I was told about these movies, couldn't

1404
01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:25.760
see them at that of course, Yeah, but you know,

1405
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:27.679
the curiosity built there, and then it was just the

1406
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:32.280
idea of the movie itself, just all building up to

1407
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:35.159
that promise scene and that PROMI scene being absolutely violent

1408
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:39.679
and grotesque and scary, like just legitimately scary.

1409
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:42.119
And when you get older you realize really tragic.

1410
01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:44.280
Really tragic. Yeah, And I mean, and then you just

1411
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:46.280
get into the more the more point of it. Of

1412
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:48.119
just the fact that, like this was a movie that

1413
01:02:48.280 --> 01:02:51.039
my parents showed their young son, probably before they should have.

1414
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:52.519
But I mean, at the same time, you know, it

1415
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:55.320
is what it is. But this movie has been cemented

1416
01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:57.519
in my life to a point that I didn't realize

1417
01:02:57.559 --> 01:02:59.239
how much I loved it until I was watching it,

1418
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:02.119
because it also introduced me to the world of Stephen King.

1419
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:04.840
And I mean, this was the gateway to horror for me.

1420
01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:08.280
I've always I've often said that nineteen thirty's Bailagosi Draculas

1421
01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:10.159
is my gateway because my mom got me that VHS

1422
01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:12.679
when they did those re releases and brought that home

1423
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:14.519
to me. Sure, but Carrie, I think is the one

1424
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:17.400
that really expanded it because I was interested in Sissy

1425
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:19.719
Spacek and learning more about her. I remember always thinking

1426
01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:22.000
of Piper Laurie as being the crazy woman. So you know,

1427
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:24.840
watching you know, dari Ar Dutchess Trauma or rewatching Twin

1428
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:26.679
Peaks recently. She's a really good actress.

1429
01:03:26.679 --> 01:03:30.039
For one phenomenal, credible. You don't have that incredible career.

1430
01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:33.360
I mean the fact that if you if you started

1431
01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:35.559
her career at Carry, she had an incredible Well what's

1432
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:37.360
hilarious is I was, I was talking to her friends

1433
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.239
Salise about this. Is it was so weird of having

1434
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:41.559
watched Twin Peaks at her recently because she's older in

1435
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:44.920
that obviously because that was eighty nine. But I've actually

1436
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:47.159
seen her more in like the Faculty and like Twin Peaks,

1437
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:49.239
like later in her career than I have seen her younger.

1438
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:51.320
So it's kind of a shock seeing her younger in this.

1439
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:53.639
So but yeah, I mean this movie has been a

1440
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:56.639
staple of my life. It gave me the gateway into horror.

1441
01:03:56.679 --> 01:03:59.199
It allowed me to learn more into who Stephen King was,

1442
01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:01.960
and it's a movie that everybody knows. The pop culture

1443
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:04.239
has been super kind of this movie. I remember when

1444
01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:08.480
everybody was doing the als ice bucket challenge, Dave Grohl

1445
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:10.840
did a carry for his ice bucket thing like it

1446
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:13.519
was basically yeah, they basically did the whole prom recreation

1447
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:16.320
with the water falling on him. This is so, I mean,

1448
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:18.960
it's it's through pop culture entirely, and I mean it's

1449
01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:22.159
a really important movie, not just for the cinematic elements

1450
01:04:22.199 --> 01:04:24.000
of it, but just in regards of its place in

1451
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:25.320
horror history in general.

1452
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:28.400
Well and not just as a film, but as the

1453
01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:32.199
first Stephen King hit, the first that then became a

1454
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:35.960
hit film. Yeah, so what cemented Stephen King in horror cinema? Yeah,

1455
01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:38.480
cemented Stephen King in horror in general.

1456
01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:41.719
His first novel, his first movie. I mean, he There's

1457
01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:43.159
an interview that I read when I was doing some

1458
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:44.800
research was just he was just like, yeah, you know,

1459
01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:46.440
I got carry out and then I was just like, well,

1460
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:47.800
this will be the only success I have. So that

1461
01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:49.559
I put Salem's Lot back on the shelf, and I

1462
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:52.440
was just like, holy shit, like to think about that

1463
01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:55.280
in this extent of actually what happened from this movie.

1464
01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:56.519
No makes sense.

1465
01:04:56.920 --> 01:04:59.719
So you're ready to get into it? Ah, sure, all right?

1466
01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:03.119
So we open with a shot of high school girls

1467
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:05.599
that are playing volleyball. We see that the one of

1468
01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:08.199
them is in the back is Carrie, and everybody is like,

1469
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:09.800
get to carry, like, you know, she'll miss it. We

1470
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:12.559
can win, and sure enough, Carrie misses the volleyball, and

1471
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:14.559
we get a sense immediately that Carrie is not liked

1472
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:15.719
by the rest of the class.

1473
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.000
No, which is weird because you know, usually the one

1474
01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:22.480
class where everybody treats the odd one nicely is Jim class.

1475
01:05:22.599 --> 01:05:25.519
Yeah, and not to mention in our in our cast

1476
01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:28.400
of mean girls, we have PJ. Souls who plays Norma.

1477
01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:31.400
Famous for rock and Roll, high school and Halloween.

1478
01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:35.800
Nancy Allen who plays Chris, famous for so Romo Dressed

1479
01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:38.840
to Kill Yeah, and she's phenomenal in this Yeah, and

1480
01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:42.559
then Amy Irving, who is kind of a mean girl

1481
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:44.800
but then comes around I guess like she rolls with

1482
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:46.760
that crowd but then doesn't doesn't really want.

1483
01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:49.000
Yeah, she's kind of the odd she's kind of the

1484
01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:50.599
black sheep of popular girls.

1485
01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:53.639
So Carrie misses it and they all get dismissed to

1486
01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:54.960
go hit the showers. And that's when we get our

1487
01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.000
opening title card of Carrie as we are in this

1488
01:05:57.119 --> 01:05:58.079
high school locker room.

1489
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:02.280
And the reason this sequence is great is because this

1490
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:05.599
is the time to establish the tone of the film.

1491
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:12.360
We get this lingering, gratuitous yeah, all slow mow of

1492
01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:17.239
all these young girls showering and there's naked as Jaberbro

1493
01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:21.159
everywhere running around and slow mo. The music is very

1494
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:25.480
soft and cute. See it kind of almost felt like

1495
01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:28.880
that was where Horror was going. It was a lot

1496
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:32.440
more gratuitous nudity at that point. It's kind of funny though,

1497
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:35.639
because as they're running around and being young and naked

1498
01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:38.400
and free and care free, we see Carrie and she's

1499
01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:40.920
taking a shower and she's enjoying herself. She's enjoying the

1500
01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:45.159
hot water. She's soaping herself. Again very gratuitous, yeah, very

1501
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:50.119
like eyeing a young woman. And then as she goes

1502
01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:52.599
past her thigh and comes back up, there's blood.

1503
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:53.159
There's blood.

1504
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:57.920
And I think that that is an incredible not only

1505
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:02.719
symbolism of what blood would come later. But also it's

1506
01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:05.320
such a great rug pull where we go from this

1507
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:08.000
cute moment that would be fluff in any other movie,

1508
01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:11.679
and then it's like, well, actually, Carrie gets her period

1509
01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:14.199
for the first time, and because of her mother being

1510
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:17.320
extremely religious, she doesn't know what it is.

1511
01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:18.880
Idea starts freaking out.

1512
01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:23.039
She thinks she's dying, and the girls react like any

1513
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:27.119
kindly high school girls and start making fun of her,

1514
01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:29.480
yelling plug it up, plug it up, and.

1515
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:32.280
Not to mention when Carrie approaches them, she's freaking out

1516
01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:34.039
to the point that she's actually like touching them like

1517
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:36.280
help me, and also has the blood and they're like,

1518
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:38.320
oh god, you give that off me. And then one

1519
01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:40.880
I think it's Chris rips like the door off the

1520
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:43.000
tampon machine and just hands them out to all the

1521
01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:44.559
girls and they just start throwing them at her.

1522
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:48.360
And I want to say, so years ago, I had

1523
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:52.519
this girlfriend who just through the unluck of the draw,

1524
01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:56.480
she went through puberty starting at nine. Oh wow, very

1525
01:07:56.559 --> 01:08:01.840
young for a woman, and she thought she was dying, yeah,

1526
01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:05.039
because she hadn't even gotten to like it was another year.

1527
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:07.440
And then they were going to tell them about it

1528
01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:10.199
ahead of time. I remember when they separated the boys

1529
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:12.079
and the girls to go learn about puberty and we

1530
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:14.920
were like ten years old. What was that?

1531
01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:16.520
That was the song we had on our video?

1532
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:19.079
Did they did they give you a half stick of

1533
01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:21.520
old spice like the little travel They didn't give you

1534
01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:22.159
any deodorant?

1535
01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:22.560
I don't believe.

1536
01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:24.319
Is that why you still stink to this very day.

1537
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:26.319
I have deodorant my bag right now at your house,

1538
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:28.399
so fuck you right now. Well I keep the odorant

1539
01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:30.600
in my house too, so this is my deodorant.

1540
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:33.600
But no, no, they literally it was like they gave

1541
01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:36.359
us a little stick of deodorant and maybe a couple

1542
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:37.079
other things. The boys.

1543
01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:37.359
I don't know.

1544
01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:40.359
They probably give the girls like tampons or pads or whatever.

1545
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:45.920
I knew about, you know, women's menstrual cycle very young,

1546
01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:47.680
because I lived in a house full of women. Yeah,

1547
01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:51.199
so I remember the so weird. But like I remember

1548
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:53.319
the first time I saw like something bloody in the

1549
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:56.800
trash can and I'm like yeah, and I was just

1550
01:08:56.920 --> 01:09:00.720
like what happened? And my stepdad just looked over. He

1551
01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:03.800
was like, nothing to worry about, that's a cotext. And

1552
01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:06.399
I was like what's a cotext? He was like, this

1553
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:08.560
is all it was. It was like every month women

1554
01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:11.800
bleed and they use that so that it doesn't get everywhere.

1555
01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:14.119
And I was like, oh, that was it, you know,

1556
01:09:14.199 --> 01:09:15.760
that was it. And I was probably six. Yeah, so

1557
01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:19.119
I knew for a really long time that women bleed

1558
01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:21.920
every month. Yeah, no other context, yeah, and that but

1559
01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:24.239
that it was fine, yeah, and that they used cotext.

1560
01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:27.760
And forever to this day, I struggle not to say

1561
01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:30.520
cotext like you say clean ex for tissues. Yeah, because

1562
01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:34.079
he gave me like the nomenclature of like when he

1563
01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:36.439
grew up in the seventies where they always called it

1564
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:39.239
a co text. Now it's most people call him pasts.

1565
01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:40.520
I think they even say context in the movie.

1566
01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:41.239
I'm sure they do.

1567
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:41.439
Ye.

1568
01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:44.239
Yeah, well it makes I mean he probably was gosh,

1569
01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:46.760
he would have been in high school like three years

1570
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:48.520
before this movie. Yeah, you know, he probably would have

1571
01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:51.119
graduated at that point. So yeah. So just a funny

1572
01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:52.800
little side note because I grew up around women, so

1573
01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:54.920
I had to find out about that pretty early on.

1574
01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:55.439
Yeah.

1575
01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:58.600
And but yeah, I remember, you know, hearing that story

1576
01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:01.520
from by. It was my first like my first girlfriend

1577
01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:03.880
was telling me that she started at nine years old,

1578
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:05.439
and so she was terrified. She ran to her mom,

1579
01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:05.960
was like, what do I do?

1580
01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:06.359
What do I do?

1581
01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:12.000
And your mom's like, it's okay, Oh my god, because

1582
01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.600
she was because they were all like uh so. But

1583
01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:16.720
she said that the worst part about that whole experience

1584
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:18.039
was that her mom was like, well, this is a

1585
01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:20.720
normal thing, and she was like, Okay, why are you

1586
01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:22.720
calling the doctor immediately after you tell me it's a

1587
01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:24.680
normal thing? Yeah, Like, because they did want to make

1588
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:26.560
sure she was okay, because she was very young to

1589
01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:28.560
be out with puberty. And I could only imagine though,

1590
01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:30.760
being like, it's fine, it's fine. When can we come

1591
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:34.119
in to see the doctor? This is normal and natural. Tomorrow,

1592
01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:38.279
I guess tomorrow will have to do. You're fine. So

1593
01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:43.319
but and but it's also there's so much story accomplished

1594
01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:45.279
by this sequence. We find out how cruel these girls

1595
01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:47.800
can we be. We find out how kind of disconnected

1596
01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:50.560
Carrie is because she should have found out about periods

1597
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:52.479
just from having friends. Yeah, but she has no friends

1598
01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:55.079
and her mother is very religious, so do you want

1599
01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:58.640
her learning sexual education? Doesn't want to talk about those things.

1600
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:02.439
So it's just it's us. I mean, it's total chaos,

1601
01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:08.199
total chaos, and it's a very woman trauma that I

1602
01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:10.640
think is depicted really well considering it's based on a

1603
01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:13.279
book written by a man, Yeah, directed by a director

1604
01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:15.760
that is a man. But I think it's very fair

1605
01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:20.319
to how scary and challenging that whole situation could be.

1606
01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:22.479
And it sets the tone for the movie right away too,

1607
01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:25.399
because we also have Mss Collins, who's the gym teacher,

1608
01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:28.600
intervene and she is pissed because she sees what's going

1609
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:30.800
on and everything, and then also realizes that like the

1610
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:33.000
girls are not helping the situation, and also now she's

1611
01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:34.479
got a traumatic carry to deal with.

1612
01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:39.039
And I've always had a soft spot for movies where teachers,

1613
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:44.359
faculty people witnessed bullying and don't want it happening. Yeah,

1614
01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:47.000
because that didn't happen a lot when I was growing up,

1615
01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:50.479
So I always have a soft spot for that. When

1616
01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:52.680
like a teacher is clearly like I see what's going

1617
01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:54.960
on here, cut it the fuck out, like I was

1618
01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:58.359
your age, not that long ago, stopping shitheads, and when

1619
01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:00.800
she dresses down the girls a little bit late, not

1620
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:03.239
even that much later, basically tells him like if I

1621
01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:06.399
hear anything else like this, You're all, I'm gonna rescind

1622
01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:08.960
your prom ticket yep, which is great. She knows these

1623
01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:12.239
girls are all so obsessed with status. Yeah, and and

1624
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:15.600
and also there's that whole sequence where she it's during

1625
01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:17.640
the same scene where she like asks them who they're

1626
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:19.359
going to the prom with to make it clear it

1627
01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:22.520
doesn't matter. Like she's just like, no, who was it?

1628
01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:25.359
Oh lucky him, Like she's just like, it's just like

1629
01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:28.439
everything you care about is stupid to me. Well, not

1630
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:29.079
to mention too.

1631
01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:30.760
One of the other girls that I forgot to mention

1632
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:34.000
in the cast is the great Edie mcclug, a very

1633
01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:35.600
young Eddie mcclug playing Helen.

1634
01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:37.399
I had to look her up because I was like,

1635
01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:40.479
I know that woman. I know that woman fucked oh

1636
01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:42.960
so so good.

1637
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:46.479
So she consols Carrie, and she's also talking to the

1638
01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:48.680
principal and she's just like, you know, the principle is

1639
01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:50.039
just like, you know, well, what do we do? And

1640
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:51.119
she's like, you know, I think we should just go

1641
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:52.840
ahead and dismiss her for the rest of the day

1642
01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:54.720
and everything, and he's like, you know, and she's like,

1643
01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:56.399
I can't believe her. Mom didn't talk to her about this.

1644
01:12:57.039 --> 01:12:59.439
But then he's also like, but we can't intervene because

1645
01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:02.640
that's their religious freedom. That's their right to you know.

1646
01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:04.720
If she doesn't want us to talk to her about that,

1647
01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:08.720
that's their choice. But he also keeps calling her Cassie.

1648
01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:10.560
Keeps calling her Cassie because they bring Carrie in and

1649
01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:12.840
he calls her Cassie no less than three times. And

1650
01:13:12.920 --> 01:13:15.199
also while this is going on, I think Collins as

1651
01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:17.319
well as the principal are both smoking cigarettes. And we

1652
01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:19.439
start to see a little bit because the only the

1653
01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:21.039
only t's that we get of the power in the

1654
01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:23.720
locker room is a light breaks when they all are

1655
01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:25.279
ganging up on her and the teacher comes in. There's

1656
01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:27.000
a light that shatters above them. That's the first thing

1657
01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:29.359
we get of her powers. Whereas in the office when

1658
01:13:29.399 --> 01:13:31.159
he keeps calling her Cassie and he's like, you know,

1659
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:33.600
you're welcome to go home. You know, you're dismissed for

1660
01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:35.359
the rest of the day, and Collins is like, you know,

1661
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:37.039
you don't have to worry about pe go ahead and

1662
01:13:37.079 --> 01:13:38.359
take a study hall for the rest of the week.

1663
01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:40.479
He's like, I'm really sorry about this. Cassie and she

1664
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:43.159
goes it's Carrie, and the astray just shatters as it

1665
01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:44.760
hits the floor, flying off the desk.

1666
01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:48.000
And it's and it's again no wasted motion. This is

1667
01:13:48.039 --> 01:13:50.760
the moment we start to realize that Carrie has some

1668
01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:56.000
kind of you know, psychokinetic ability and psychokinesis was a

1669
01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:59.319
very popular topic. It was during that period of time

1670
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:02.000
King was you know, he didn't pull that out of

1671
01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:04.439
his butt. People were talking about it all the time.

1672
01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:06.119
They were talking about the idea that it was real.

1673
01:14:06.359 --> 01:14:08.079
Was this the time that at the same time as

1674
01:14:08.119 --> 01:14:10.399
like Whitley Striver doing like communion and stuff like that,

1675
01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:12.600
because that stuff kind of that that was also kind

1676
01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:13.680
of part of that as well.

1677
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:16.039
I'm not sure. Yeah, but this was also around the

1678
01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:19.520
time that James Randy fooled that the researchers at that

1679
01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:23.399
major college institute. It's escaping me at Randy, but he

1680
01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:27.840
had these kids fool the researchers by doing magic tricks

1681
01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:28.640
and lying.

1682
01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:29.039
Yeah.

1683
01:14:29.720 --> 01:14:31.479
But the best part of that whole thing, because there's

1684
01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:34.239
a whole expose which I really recommend on the podcast

1685
01:14:34.399 --> 01:14:37.880
World's Greatest Con with Brian Brushwood where they talk about

1686
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:40.600
not only how that all went down. But the untold side,

1687
01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:44.800
which was how bad those kids felt for fooling them. Yeah,

1688
01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:47.640
but Randy had them make an agreement that they would

1689
01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:50.640
they would cheat to do anything they could. But if

1690
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:55.239
they were ever asked, did you are you using trickery?

1691
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:57.960
Are you tricking us? Are you whatever? If they ever asked,

1692
01:14:57.960 --> 01:14:59.520
they would go absolutely, I am ye, like I am

1693
01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:01.479
a magician or I'm a kid who wants to be

1694
01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:05.399
a magician. They never asked them. For years they would

1695
01:15:05.399 --> 01:15:08.239
come and do these studies and cheat and lie. One point,

1696
01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:11.119
they broke into the laboratory to see what was hidden

1697
01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:12.359
in a box that they were going to be asked

1698
01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:16.319
to like psych They did. They broke in and but

1699
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:18.520
like they every time they'd be like so you saw this,

1700
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:20.359
and they'd be like yes. But nobody ever said like,

1701
01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:23.680
are you lying? Did you cheat? Nobody ever e because

1702
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:26.720
they all wanted this, this thing to be real. So

1703
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:29.720
psychokinesis was a big thing in fact, around the seventies

1704
01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:34.399
and eighties, a really popular explanation for ghost hauntings, especially

1705
01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:36.800
poltergeist hauntings. Yea was I think they even mentioned that

1706
01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:38.560
in Poltergeist. They're like maybe one. I think they even

1707
01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:41.159
say like one of the children could have telekinetic or

1708
01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:44.039
psychokinetic power. That's the other thing. It became telekinetic layer,

1709
01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:45.760
but it was psychokinetic early on, and I kind of

1710
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:48.199
bounced between them. But that was another thing. People used

1711
01:15:48.239 --> 01:15:50.439
to claim that, like maybe it's not poltergeist. Maybe it's

1712
01:15:50.479 --> 01:15:53.479
that like the young children have psychic abilities hi, which

1713
01:15:53.479 --> 01:15:55.199
is great. It's like maybe it's not a unicorn, maybe

1714
01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:57.000
it's a lock Beest monster. It could be you know.

1715
01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:02.039
So Carrie Lee school after the astray breaks and she's

1716
01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:04.079
walking home and there's a kid on a bike that

1717
01:16:04.279 --> 01:16:07.359
sees her wheels back around crazy carry, crazy carry, and

1718
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:10.640
then the bike just flips over. Yeah, he gets dumped.

1719
01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:11.520
He gets dumped.

1720
01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:14.279
And that's when you start to notice, like, yeah, that

1721
01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:16.960
it's it's her emotional state, you know. As her emotional

1722
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:21.119
state jumps, she's able to focus this power, not not

1723
01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:24.119
really intentionally, but in a general all the.

1724
01:16:24.119 --> 01:16:26.760
Time she whips around in this movie, you're in trouble, yeah,

1725
01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:29.039
because her eyes will direct everything right at you.

1726
01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:29.560
Yes.

1727
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.239
So, but then this point we also meet her mom

1728
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:36.680
as she goes to Missus Snell's house and Missus Snell

1729
01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:40.039
enjoying her soaps in the afternoon, having a nice little cocktail.

1730
01:16:40.119 --> 01:16:42.159
I like that because I know what you mean by soaps,

1731
01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:44.640
but like my brain, when you say enjoying her soaps

1732
01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:46.479
in the afternoon, I just imagine like a little plate

1733
01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:52.359
of tiny soap slices, very oly, very good. It's like

1734
01:16:52.399 --> 01:16:53.319
housewives were bored.

1735
01:16:53.359 --> 01:16:53.479
Bro.

1736
01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:57.479
She's like, my doctor won't give me queludes anymore, so

1737
01:16:58.119 --> 01:16:59.880
I just treat myself to a couple.

1738
01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:03.920
So Margaret comes to the door and is preaching her

1739
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:08.039
Jesus stuff, and immediately Snell is just like she's no,

1740
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:10.720
Like they know about Carrie's mom in this neighborhood, they

1741
01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:11.880
know who she is, and they know that she's a

1742
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:16.520
little whackadoo, but for the credit gives her her attention.

1743
01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:18.039
And it is just kind of like even joking with

1744
01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:19.439
her a little bit, because I can't remember what she

1745
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:21.560
says specifically, but it's something along the lines of like

1746
01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:23.239
the kids will be led to the damnation, and she's like,

1747
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:25.640
I'll drink to that, and then it puts her glass.

1748
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:27.399
Because she's like, oh, I've just outed myself that I'm

1749
01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:30.560
drinking booze. Yeah, one PM or something noon.

1750
01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:34.800
So that's when, oh, damn, it. I'm blanking on her name.

1751
01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:35.640
What's the daughter's name?

1752
01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:36.119
Is it? Sue?

1753
01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:38.920
Yeah, Sue. Sue comes home and by this point too,

1754
01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:41.359
she's just like wanting to get Margaret out of her house.

1755
01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:43.840
So she's like, I'm gonna give you five ten dollars

1756
01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:44.520
to the church.

1757
01:17:44.960 --> 01:17:45.199
Yeah.

1758
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:45.840
Yeah.

1759
01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:48.479
And it's a great scene, a great way to establish her,

1760
01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:51.479
and a great way to establish her before we see

1761
01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:54.000
how how she and Carrie in her act, which is

1762
01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:57.960
very complicated, yes, because it doesn't come it doesn't come

1763
01:17:58.000 --> 01:17:59.560
off complicated until you think about it.

1764
01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:02.960
Yeah, it's one of the situations where we see her

1765
01:18:03.319 --> 01:18:06.439
in her element of people of just like being out

1766
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:08.600
in the open, but like behind closed doors of that house.

1767
01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:09.880
Whole nother story.

1768
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:12.159
Well, and but here's the thing about her mom, because

1769
01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:15.199
her mother is obviously a religious zealot. Yeah, very intense

1770
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:18.239
about all these things. And one thing I thought is

1771
01:18:18.279 --> 01:18:20.840
really she's very big about like Carrie shouldn't be around boys,

1772
01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:22.600
she'd do all these things. And there are parts where

1773
01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:24.319
Carrie stands up to her. Yeah, and it's just like,

1774
01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:25.520
what do you know about and all this stuff and

1775
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:27.800
all And I'm just thinking, as an adult now looking back,

1776
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.800
I'm like, well, your mom knows something about guys lyon

1777
01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:33.600
because she has a daughter and no husband.

1778
01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:37.520
Like, she's clearly witch in there again, we'll get there.

1779
01:18:37.640 --> 01:18:41.119
But her final lines to Carrie before all that shit

1780
01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:43.800
goes down at the end, I really hit me last

1781
01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:45.359
night watching it because I don't know if it was

1782
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:47.600
I never really paid attention to it, which was entirely possible.

1783
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:50.359
Well, her character's so much, Yeah, it's easy to miss

1784
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:50.880
the nuance.

1785
01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:53.800
Yeah, So she ends up getting Carrie gets home and

1786
01:18:54.199 --> 01:18:56.399
she's upstairs. She hears the phone ring and her mom

1787
01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:58.279
answers it and she knows immediately what the call is

1788
01:18:58.319 --> 01:19:00.680
because it's the school. Of course, her mom is just like,

1789
01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:03.560
I know you're listening, come on down. And Carrie goes

1790
01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:05.239
to her mom and she's just like, you know, why

1791
01:19:05.279 --> 01:19:07.760
didn't you tell me? And this just breaks out into

1792
01:19:07.800 --> 01:19:09.800
a whole thing of her slapping her and telling her

1793
01:19:09.880 --> 01:19:11.520
that she's dirty and that she needs to ask for

1794
01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:15.920
forgiveness and go into the prayer closet. Because there's much

1795
01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:18.840
like our movie Cobweb. Back in October, they have a

1796
01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:21.720
little secret room in the in the kitchen, and it's

1797
01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:23.840
a little closet that she locks her in basically to

1798
01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:27.000
ask forgiveness. That has a not a Jesus statue, but

1799
01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:29.640
it's a very weird looking statue that we see at

1800
01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:30.199
the end of the movie.

1801
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:31.239
It is a Jesus statue not.

1802
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:33.039
Actually, my trivia, it's not it's not.

1803
01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:35.560
Well, are we talking about the statue that's nailed to a.

1804
01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:36.760
Cross then has the arrows?

1805
01:19:37.119 --> 01:19:38.079
Yeah, how's that not?

1806
01:19:38.640 --> 01:19:40.960
It's not Christ? Apparently in the notes, I'll get to it. Yeah,

1807
01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:42.720
I would love to know who that yeah is that

1808
01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:44.000
it's a saint of some kind.

1809
01:19:44.279 --> 01:19:46.439
Hmmm, I mean that would make they did crucify some

1810
01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:48.199
people who got yeah, became sainted.

1811
01:19:48.319 --> 01:19:50.279
But yeah, she goes into the closet and is in

1812
01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:52.399
there for a time being her mom's outside praying, and

1813
01:19:52.439 --> 01:19:54.680
then comes out and they pray it together. So I

1814
01:19:54.720 --> 01:19:56.880
mean that's basically the first scene they have together.

1815
01:19:56.880 --> 01:20:02.079
And while Carrie's mom is in Yeah, it is worth mentioning.

1816
01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:05.920
You gotta feel a little bad for her mom because

1817
01:20:06.279 --> 01:20:09.119
look at it from a you know, take away all

1818
01:20:09.199 --> 01:20:11.399
of the context you have initially and think about this.

1819
01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:15.760
Her mother deeply believes in all these you know, heavily

1820
01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:16.640
religious beliefs.

1821
01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:16.920
Yep.

1822
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:19.520
On top of that, she has a daughter who has

1823
01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:23.880
psychokinetic powers. Yeah, this woman like, of course she believes

1824
01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.359
that the devil and stuff even I mean like it. Like,

1825
01:20:26.680 --> 01:20:29.800
so not only is she living this life where she's like, I,

1826
01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:33.439
that must be the devil in my daughter, but then

1827
01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:35.840
it's also that element where it's like her daughter's all

1828
01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:38.239
she has in the world. Yeah, and she doesn't want

1829
01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:40.479
to get rid of her.

1830
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:40.760
Well.

1831
01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:43.119
And there's one thing that I'll say about the twenty

1832
01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:44.720
thirteen remake, because I was not a big fan of it.

1833
01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:46.720
I love Chloe Grace Moretz, and I thought she was

1834
01:20:46.720 --> 01:20:48.960
a great casting for it, but that movie in particular,

1835
01:20:49.039 --> 01:20:50.439
I just had problems with. But one of the things

1836
01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:52.560
I really did like about that movie, and I believe

1837
01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:54.880
it is in the book. I have not read the book,

1838
01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:57.079
but I've read synopsis of it and also read one

1839
01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:00.479
before the show as well. There is an opening in

1840
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:03.399
the twenty thirteen where it's Julian Moore's her mom and

1841
01:21:03.520 --> 01:21:05.399
she's laying on the bed and she knows that she's

1842
01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:06.720
pregnant and she wants he rid of it, and she

1843
01:21:07.079 --> 01:21:09.840
gives herself like an abortion with a knife. But then

1844
01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:11.119
Carrie still survives.

1845
01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:13.359
I think that is in the book.

1846
01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:14.800
I think it is too, so I think that just

1847
01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:16.720
sounds so Stephen King. Yeah, but I think I think

1848
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:18.520
once you know that, which because it's not president this

1849
01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:20.920
movie obviously, and I mean she's she says it a

1850
01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:23.159
little in that in that ending, which, like I said,

1851
01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:25.680
we'll get to. But at the same time, I think

1852
01:21:25.800 --> 01:21:27.760
having that premise kind of gives the idea that her

1853
01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:30.760
mom thinks that she might be something from Satan at

1854
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:31.159
this point.

1855
01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:34.119
But and here and and to twist it even more,

1856
01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:37.520
she could be. She could be because because she could be,

1857
01:21:37.640 --> 01:21:40.840
because the movie isn't about where the powers come from,

1858
01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:42.680
it's about the fact that she has has them and

1859
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:45.319
willing them. Yeah, for all we know, Carrie is literally

1860
01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:46.960
an agent of the devil that doesn't know it. And

1861
01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:49.600
Arry what could be kind of like how Damien doesn't

1862
01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:52.680
really know he just is who he is. And granted

1863
01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:55.279
he's you know, immensely evil, but it takes a while. Yeah,

1864
01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:58.119
at first, he's like, uh, why are these things happen?

1865
01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:00.279
I'm just a kid, Like I'm just doing whatever and

1866
01:22:00.520 --> 01:22:03.319
this and that and this and that, and as things progress,

1867
01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:06.439
you realize it. So like, I mean, Carrie could literally

1868
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:10.399
be the devil for these powers. And that's that's why

1869
01:22:10.439 --> 01:22:12.560
I feel bad for her mom, because her mom is insane.

1870
01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:17.640
But also like I wonder, like how far was her

1871
01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:21.680
mother driven insane? Like how long was little Carrie moving

1872
01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:23.720
things with her mind and her mother being like, you

1873
01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:25.840
can't do that, you must never do that, like you

1874
01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:28.039
can't be a freaking like witch.

1875
01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:30.239
Basically did the two thousand and two TV movie go

1876
01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:32.960
into her younger a little bit more? Am I misremembering?

1877
01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:35.960
I only I been a while. I only saw it

1878
01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:38.319
when it airs with Angela Bettis.

1879
01:22:38.399 --> 01:22:38.560
Yep?

1880
01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:41.319
I remember thinking it was all right, yeah, but uh,

1881
01:22:41.359 --> 01:22:44.079
and I loved Angela Bettis. Uh, I mean she was great,

1882
01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:47.039
but like, I don't know, but I remember as I

1883
01:22:47.159 --> 01:22:48.520
was watching it, I was like, man, if you look

1884
01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:51.239
at it from her mom's perspective, she's like, you know,

1885
01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:53.520
demons and stuff, I'll live around us. And that's like,

1886
01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:55.239
and then her daughter moves things to her mind. It's like,

1887
01:22:55.920 --> 01:22:57.720
can you blame it for going crazier?

1888
01:22:58.399 --> 01:23:01.359
So back at the school, Mss Collins is letting the

1889
01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:03.840
girls have it. They have a detention specifically that she

1890
01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:04.399
is running.

1891
01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:06.079
This was that scene I was talking about where she's

1892
01:23:06.119 --> 01:23:07.039
like dressing them down.

1893
01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:10.079
There they're having to run. She tells them that she'll

1894
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:13.279
up from their knee, but she tells them that they'll

1895
01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:15.720
she'll suspend their prom if anything happens to carry if

1896
01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:16.920
any more pranks are done.

1897
01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:22.039
Well and uh the Nina Allen, n Nancy Allen, Chris

1898
01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:24.479
but uh. At one point she's just like, well, I'm

1899
01:23:24.479 --> 01:23:26.520
not showing up for your detention, Well, then you will

1900
01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:29.760
be suspended and you will lose your problem. She opens

1901
01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:31.960
with what I would what I want to do is this.

1902
01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:34.399
I'm not going to go that far. So the moment

1903
01:23:34.439 --> 01:23:37.319
she starts standing up to her, she's like, you will

1904
01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:39.479
have the ultimate punishment. Yes, and one when says you

1905
01:23:39.479 --> 01:23:41.439
could stick it up your and she stops her she

1906
01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:42.359
is sticking up your ass.

1907
01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:44.079
She gets slapped then or is it the next scene?

1908
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:47.479
No, I believe it's might that's what they're doing the

1909
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:50.359
h because she dresses them down first. Then it's gym

1910
01:23:50.439 --> 01:23:52.279
class as normal, because after she says all this mean

1911
01:23:52.359 --> 01:23:54.640
stuff to them, she's like, now get changed. You know

1912
01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:56.600
it's time for gym class. But I love that she says,

1913
01:23:56.600 --> 01:23:58.800
and stick up yours and she doesn't get slapped to

1914
01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:01.600
stop she stops yourself and then the gym teachers is

1915
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:03.720
like slack and everybody's reaction.

1916
01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:06.239
She's like, bitch, you can't do this. Come on, she

1917
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:08.279
can't do this, like tries to rally everybody, and I

1918
01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:12.159
love Sue's like, just shut up, Chris, shut up, let

1919
01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:13.640
it go. Chris, Like, hell, I will.

1920
01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:16.279
It's a great moment too.

1921
01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:17.800
Yeah, and Chris's band.

1922
01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:20.840
It's such it's just such a good motive to have

1923
01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:26.000
the mean girl escalate so much because her friends back out,

1924
01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:28.840
Like if she had had their support, she might have

1925
01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:30.800
not come at Carrie. That that quite that hard.

1926
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:33.359
It's so funny too, because I remembered PJ. Soul's being

1927
01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:35.359
a bigger bitch in this movie and she's really not

1928
01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:38.439
like she has. I don't hate for those who actually

1929
01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:41.640
met PJ. Souls and she's as I met her a

1930
01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:45.399
bunch of times, totally. I met her at the Memphis

1931
01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:48.119
drive in and she was singing rock and roll high school. Yeah,

1932
01:24:48.399 --> 01:24:49.640
it was so much fun.

1933
01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:50.479
No, she's a hoot.

1934
01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:51.800
She's so much fun.

1935
01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:54.159
But for some reason, you bring up such negative things

1936
01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:56.279
about her all the time. You guys, well, they only

1937
01:24:56.319 --> 01:24:57.920
hear you talk like an hour or two a week

1938
01:24:58.479 --> 01:25:00.319
in our day to day life. It's just like sometimes

1939
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:04.359
you just be like, God, this day's so gloomy. PJ Souls.

1940
01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:08.800
It's funny. I you'll probably be shocked by this. But

1941
01:25:09.199 --> 01:25:12.159
it wasn't until Junk Food Cinema did a podcast in

1942
01:25:12.239 --> 01:25:13.760
Rock and Roll High School that I actually watched it,

1943
01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:15.760
like in the last like two years ago, when I

1944
01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:18.479
had years ago, when I was two years ago, probably

1945
01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:20.239
three now think about it, but I still when I

1946
01:25:20.239 --> 01:25:21.600
had COVID, When I had COVID and I was in

1947
01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:23.800
bed and could do nothing, I had never seen it,

1948
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:25.399
and my uncle had burned it for me, like he'd

1949
01:25:25.439 --> 01:25:27.000
given it to me, and it was just one of

1950
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:28.359
those movies. I was just like, I wasn't a big

1951
01:25:28.359 --> 01:25:30.039
fan of the Ramones then, and also it was just

1952
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:31.800
like I didn't know if it was gonna be my thing,

1953
01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:33.560
and then watching it, I was just like, holy shit,

1954
01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:33.920
this is.

1955
01:25:34.079 --> 01:25:36.359
Totally my rock and roll high schools I heard of

1956
01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:39.319
the remote. Yeah, you know, like, no, that's wild, because

1957
01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:41.560
I was obsessed with Corman by the time I was fourteen. Yeah,

1958
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:43.399
so I was watching like and that was the that

1959
01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:46.800
was the era of the Corman cult classics. Yeah, DVDs

1960
01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:48.640
come out of the massacre and everything.

1961
01:25:48.760 --> 01:25:51.079
No, no, no, no, no, you're talking about first Yeah,

1962
01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:53.039
you're talking about Oh shit's why I.

1963
01:25:53.479 --> 01:25:54.800
Know I throw it around a lot, But you got

1964
01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:58.680
to remember, man, like I'm I'm fourteen, thirteen years old

1965
01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:00.319
when all of those are going into best by in

1966
01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:01.319
like one oh two.

1967
01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:05.560
Where the bonus feature was scene selection, No, it was

1968
01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:09.520
scene selection and interactive menus. Don't forget talent bios.

1969
01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:13.560
I don't ever want. I hate that you knew where

1970
01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:16.640
you were going. Yeah, this is why I can't podcast

1971
01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:18.560
on paying medicine because then I'm on Dave's level and

1972
01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:19.479
it's just a bad move.

1973
01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:21.880
So Chris by this point is a banned from the

1974
01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:23.720
prom and she wants to get her revenge, so she

1975
01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:25.760
enlists her boyfriend.

1976
01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:27.640
Tommy, played by John Travol.

1977
01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:30.920
They play a very young John, very young pre is

1978
01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:32.560
this this has got to be before Saturday Night Fever?

1979
01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:32.840
Yeah?

1980
01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:35.600
Yeah, yeah, because because he wouldn't be such a small hole.

1981
01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:37.840
Might be right after Saturday fear, because it is Saturday

1982
01:26:37.920 --> 01:26:40.960
night seventy five. Let me check. I want to say

1983
01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:43.680
it might be seventy five. Is Saturday Night Fever seventy seven?

1984
01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:45.039
So it's a year right before.

1985
01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:47.359
Yeah, which, like I said, because he plays like third

1986
01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:50.239
or fourth banana. Yeah, so because he hadn't become a

1987
01:26:50.279 --> 01:26:52.560
superstar yet and he's great in it because he's playing

1988
01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:56.319
this kind of shit. But initially he's somewhat reluctant.

1989
01:26:56.439 --> 01:26:56.680
He is.

1990
01:26:56.840 --> 01:26:59.199
Yeah, but then she keeps calling him dumb shit, which

1991
01:26:59.279 --> 01:26:59.920
pisses him off.

1992
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:03.800
Yes, yes, and then she has a very strong motivation.

1993
01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:07.960
Yes, but it can still talk very well, you know.

1994
01:27:09.079 --> 01:27:11.279
Rewatching that today, I did think it was weird that

1995
01:27:11.399 --> 01:27:15.199
she was giving him fillatio and talking and talking.

1996
01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:17.479
And saying how she hates I love what she says

1997
01:27:17.640 --> 01:27:17.760
is what.

1998
01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:21.239
Yeah, now that scene is fascinatingly weird.

1999
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:24.640
Yeah, because they're driving around town and she's basically saying

2000
01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:26.760
how she's upset and everything and that she wants to

2001
01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:29.079
get her revenge, and he's drinking a beer while driving.

2002
01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:31.640
They pull off to the side, she starts filating him

2003
01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:34.439
and yeah, basically like says that she hates Carrie White

2004
01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:38.640
all she's down there with. Yeah, like it's a microphone,

2005
01:27:39.079 --> 01:27:41.720
you know, check check check check. No, it's it's it's

2006
01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:44.000
a really it's a great scene to show just how

2007
01:27:44.119 --> 01:27:47.159
like devious this woman is that she's clearly using sex

2008
01:27:47.279 --> 01:27:49.520
to get this guy to do whatever she wants. Yeah,

2009
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:55.319
so she begins hatching a plot against Carrie. Meanwhile, her

2010
01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:57.840
friend Sue is trying to figure out something nice that

2011
01:27:57.920 --> 01:27:58.720
she can do for Carrie.

2012
01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:01.279
Right, And that's why this if he becomes so tragic, Yeah,

2013
01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:04.159
because not everybody's meaning, not everybody is That's kind of

2014
01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:04.880
why I love it.

2015
01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:07.600
Yeah. So she enlists her boyfriend Tommy, who was played

2016
01:28:07.600 --> 01:28:09.880
by the Great William Kat and she asked him if

2017
01:28:10.079 --> 01:28:12.720
he will go to the problem with carry and he thinks,

2018
01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:14.399
I love the way that they show it because she

2019
01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:16.199
asked him because it meets her at school and he

2020
01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:17.720
and she's like, I got something to ask for you,

2021
01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:20.159
and would you go to problem carry White? And they

2022
01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:22.960
cut away from the scene. Later, she's doing homework at

2023
01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:24.720
her house. He's there watching TV and he turns heun

2024
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:27.800
and goes, okay, sure, no, it's nice.

2025
01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:28.760
It's kind of convincing.

2026
01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:31.800
Yeah. So Carrie is later in the library and she's

2027
01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:34.159
looking around at books and she comes across one on

2028
01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:36.399
telekinesis and reads about it and while she puts the

2029
01:28:36.439 --> 01:28:38.239
book back, then Tommy is in the library and she

2030
01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:41.199
sees him, he asked her, and she doesn't know what

2031
01:28:41.319 --> 01:28:41.880
to think it first.

2032
01:28:41.960 --> 01:28:44.319
And I love this sequence because it's like all in

2033
01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:47.279
her eyes and she's because because it's so forbidden. Yeah,

2034
01:28:47.439 --> 01:28:50.439
because number one, her mother would not want her reading

2035
01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:52.800
any of this stuff. No, but number two, she doesn't

2036
01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:55.920
want anybody to know. Like she's already the weird girl.

2037
01:28:56.039 --> 01:28:58.279
So now she's gonna unlike me, who was checking out

2038
01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:00.760
like every book on no I'm seriously. Yeah, if I

2039
01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:03.199
told you those stories about like there were UFO books

2040
01:29:03.279 --> 01:29:05.359
and haunting books and I was the only name yep,

2041
01:29:05.479 --> 01:29:07.600
this was an elementary school. It was the only name

2042
01:29:07.640 --> 01:29:09.079
on the card, a little card you have to fill

2043
01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:11.000
out when you check it out, only one, and I

2044
01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:13.279
would sit and read them on Saturday mornings. I'd be

2045
01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:15.039
reading like all about ghost. That's where I first heard

2046
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:16.840
what psychokinesis was. Yeah, that was where I first heard

2047
01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:18.479
the concept that like it could be a child.

2048
01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:18.720
You know.

2049
01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:21.239
That was all from those those early books. Yeah, because

2050
01:29:21.279 --> 01:29:23.640
I was obsessed with those, especially after I chewed through

2051
01:29:23.680 --> 01:29:26.199
all the Poe. I just wanted, you know, spooky shit.

2052
01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:29.680
So I'd read UFO books and I'd read paranormal phenomena, hauntings,

2053
01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:33.159
psychic phenomena books, and uh, I just love this sequence.

2054
01:29:33.159 --> 01:29:36.560
I mean, obviously DiPalma. DiPalma comes from a time period. Actually,

2055
01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:39.720
I wanted to look up when he was born, Brian

2056
01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:41.399
because he you know, he's a older guy.

2057
01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:46.119
Now, obviously, did you watch DiPalma? Okay, I couldn't remember

2058
01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:48.640
you that. Yeah, if you, if you a listener of

2059
01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:50.760
you have not seen the documentary that came out a

2060
01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:53.159
few years ago called Just It's just called DiPalma. And

2061
01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:55.319
it's literally a camera sitting in front of Brian to

2062
01:29:55.399 --> 01:29:58.239
Palma for like almost two hours and him just talking

2063
01:29:58.279 --> 01:29:59.319
about his projects.

2064
01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:04.680
Wait, he married Galen Hurd briefly, what a what taste

2065
01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:10.880
in men? Look, I'm so tired of James Cameron. He's

2066
01:30:11.039 --> 01:30:13.840
such a He's sow this and this and this. I

2067
01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:18.000
want somebody reasonable like Brian Brianma. Of course then he's rich. Yeah,

2068
01:30:18.039 --> 01:30:21.399
it doesn't hurt. But DiPalma was born in nineteen forty

2069
01:30:21.479 --> 01:30:23.800
forty Okay. And the reason I mentioned this is because

2070
01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:26.159
I think that that's one of the reasons he has

2071
01:30:26.279 --> 01:30:30.359
the level of style that he does. Because if I

2072
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:34.000
were to look up, when was the first talkie released

2073
01:30:34.319 --> 01:30:37.239
the first you Know film. Yeah, so nineteen twenty seven,

2074
01:30:37.319 --> 01:30:40.520
but it wasn't widely available. It became a bigger deal

2075
01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:43.399
in the thirties that movies would all be talkies. So

2076
01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:46.600
Di Palma grows up in a world where cinema is

2077
01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:50.960
still pretty infant, yeah, and where a lot of the

2078
01:30:51.039 --> 01:30:53.640
films he probably grew up watching were silent make sense,

2079
01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:55.960
and if you look at the way, I think that

2080
01:30:56.079 --> 01:30:59.640
he really had a sense for the art form of film.

2081
01:30:59.640 --> 01:31:01.279
And I don't mean that in a snooty way. It's

2082
01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:04.560
just film has become so much more than its original

2083
01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:07.520
concept because as time has went on, people have become

2084
01:31:07.600 --> 01:31:10.039
much more obsessed with the narrative, which I am one

2085
01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:12.079
of those people. I'm not somebody who believes film is

2086
01:31:12.119 --> 01:31:15.600
solely visual, like a Kubrick or something. But unlike Kubrick,

2087
01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:18.760
I think in general, Di Palma was very good at both.

2088
01:31:19.199 --> 01:31:21.520
Kubrick had his moments. I mean, he's made some of

2089
01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:23.560
the best movies ever made and some movies I find

2090
01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:26.279
really kind of boring and dull. But he did what

2091
01:31:26.399 --> 01:31:28.319
he was trying to do he did well. So my

2092
01:31:28.439 --> 01:31:31.279
point is that Di Palma came from a world where

2093
01:31:31.479 --> 01:31:35.880
film was a visual medium. Now, he had talkie movies

2094
01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:37.960
around by the time he was a teenager, but he

2095
01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:39.760
watched so many movies where all you did was look

2096
01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:42.479
at what was on screen. So when you consider that,

2097
01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:46.880
his visual style is brilliant because he always cared about

2098
01:31:47.159 --> 01:31:50.840
what was on screen so intensely, to the point where

2099
01:31:50.920 --> 01:31:53.720
you can dissect like every frame, especially of his early films.

2100
01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:56.079
You could dissect like every frame of Carry, You could

2101
01:31:56.079 --> 01:32:00.199
dissect every frame of Phantom of the Paradise of Blowout, Yeah,

2102
01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:01.720
that one, I mean, he really got to let her rip.

2103
01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:06.239
But like this movie is is such a visual treat.

2104
01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:08.479
I didn't even I haven't had a chance to check

2105
01:32:08.479 --> 01:32:09.880
out the four K yet, but I watched it on

2106
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:11.359
HBO Max. It might have been in four K on

2107
01:32:11.439 --> 01:32:13.760
HBO Max, but no, it doesn't matter. I watched it

2108
01:32:13.800 --> 01:32:16.960
and I was just like, man, I mean, and I'm

2109
01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:21.319
not blowing people's minds by saying, diploma pretty good visual storyteller, crazy,

2110
01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:23.560
But I think it's worth mentioning that he came up

2111
01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:29.319
when people were just really getting a like a serious

2112
01:32:29.560 --> 01:32:32.760
groove on films where people talk. And I know there

2113
01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:34.760
were you know, the fifties and sixties were full of

2114
01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:39.359
talkie movies, but he he just really exemplified the idea

2115
01:32:39.439 --> 01:32:42.079
that the image is first and everything follows the The

2116
01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:45.720
image follows everything about the story. And I think that's

2117
01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:49.800
why this movie is so striking, because Diploma was also

2118
01:32:49.880 --> 01:32:53.039
good at keeping things human. He was it still is it?

2119
01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:55.159
I mean, he's maybe. I was talking to Rachel about

2120
01:32:55.159 --> 01:32:56.720
it earlier and I was telling her, like, you know,

2121
01:32:56.800 --> 01:32:58.560
how incredible his stuff is. I was like, don't get

2122
01:32:58.560 --> 01:32:59.840
me wrong, He's been movies I don't think are good,

2123
01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:01.880
but he's made some of the best movies I've ever seen.

2124
01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:04.199
I mean, I've seen most of his stuff in the

2125
01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:07.680
later years recently too, And the one I mentioned, Passion

2126
01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:10.119
from twenty thirteen, it's a solid flick. I mean, it

2127
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:12.319
borrows a lot of stuff from his movies, but he's

2128
01:33:12.359 --> 01:33:14.800
fucking allowed to. Well they're his movie, yeah exactly, so,

2129
01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:17.640
I mean yeah, but I mean I think that even

2130
01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:20.439
even in one of his lesser movies, there's still something

2131
01:33:20.479 --> 01:33:22.439
to take away from his style every time.

2132
01:33:22.600 --> 01:33:24.920
And Carrie was I mean, it turned into a huge movie,

2133
01:33:24.920 --> 01:33:27.399
but it was a relatively small UA was not a

2134
01:33:27.439 --> 01:33:29.399
big studio. I mean, it was a it was like

2135
01:33:29.479 --> 01:33:32.680
a medium sized studio UA made movies with Roger Corman.

2136
01:33:32.840 --> 01:33:34.680
You might shit when I tell you the budget of Carrie.

2137
01:33:34.720 --> 01:33:36.119
I'll tell I'll tell you that much. I think I

2138
01:33:36.159 --> 01:33:37.680
know what it is, but we'll get there.

2139
01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:38.159
I think I do.

2140
01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:40.920
I know that it made like hundreds of the buku

2141
01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:41.680
for what it was.

2142
01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:42.000
Yeah.

2143
01:33:42.279 --> 01:33:44.720
So while this is going on, she ends up, you know,

2144
01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:47.640
telling Miss Collins that Tommy asked her out. And Miss

2145
01:33:47.720 --> 01:33:49.920
Collins right away is just like, I smell something's up,

2146
01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:52.039
and she doesn't tell Carrie. She's just like, oh, that's

2147
01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:56.119
very sweet. She's so good, yeah, Carrie. Well, the problem

2148
01:33:56.279 --> 01:33:59.960
is for her is she wants Carrie to be okay. Yeah,

2149
01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:03.199
so she can't just go, oh, well he's lying, Oh,

2150
01:34:03.239 --> 01:34:06.680
that's insubbicious because she wants Carrie. Her biggest problem with Carrie.

2151
01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:09.119
She's like, why do you think you're not capable of anything?

2152
01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:10.920
Why do you think you can have good things? So

2153
01:34:10.960 --> 01:34:13.039
that's one of the first seasons She's like, maybe he

2154
01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:16.319
just likes you. You're worth liking. Yeah, you're a pretty girl,

2155
01:34:16.399 --> 01:34:18.720
You're smart. What I love that she The way that

2156
01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:21.600
they introduced this scene in particular is she's the girls

2157
01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:23.399
are going to class and she's behind them going down

2158
01:34:23.399 --> 01:34:25.479
the steps, and as she goes around the steps and

2159
01:34:25.520 --> 01:34:27.880
there's Carrie just sitting in the corner by herself at

2160
01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:30.079
the bottom of the steps. Yeah, and crouches down with

2161
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:32.319
her and is talking with her and everything. So yeah,

2162
01:34:32.439 --> 01:34:34.520
Collins immediately is like, I'm going to go talk to

2163
01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:36.479
Sue and Tommy. And she asks Sue like, you know,

2164
01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:38.439
what do you think you're doing? And she's like, I

2165
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:40.800
just think that Carrie deserves to have a good time

2166
01:34:41.239 --> 01:34:43.399
and is being so sincere. And Tommy is the same

2167
01:34:43.479 --> 01:34:45.479
thing with this. He's just like, you know, yeah, I'm

2168
01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:47.920
there's no ill intentions here. I just want to do

2169
01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:49.640
something that Sue has asked me to do and.

2170
01:34:50.239 --> 01:34:51.920
Correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, I just watched it,

2171
01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:54.399
but I it's been a day. Yeah, I mean this

2172
01:34:54.680 --> 01:34:57.880
morning I was at Urgent Carrien. Yeah, and you should

2173
01:34:58.239 --> 01:35:00.279
You should have heard the amount of f words I

2174
01:35:00.399 --> 01:35:01.600
said when I was in the car because I had

2175
01:35:01.640 --> 01:35:03.920
to do a rush to ups after I got my meds.

2176
01:35:04.159 --> 01:35:06.000
So I'm rushing ups and I literally look at my

2177
01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:08.520
thing and I'm like it's one forty five. It's fucking

2178
01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:10.199
one forty And I'm like swearing and swearing, sporking the

2179
01:35:10.199 --> 01:35:11.560
whole time and driving because I'm like I gotta get

2180
01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:13.840
home and start watching carry and like, oh my god,

2181
01:35:14.039 --> 01:35:16.479
like you know what am I gonna do? Also really

2182
01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:18.600
fun when they were like, hey, your ears really swollen

2183
01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:20.439
and you have swimmers here and they're like, don't worry,

2184
01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:22.640
there's a drop for it. Has court is also reduces

2185
01:35:22.680 --> 01:35:25.119
the swelling. Walley kills the infection, and I was like awesome.

2186
01:35:25.159 --> 01:35:27.640
And then I look at the packages like you'll experience

2187
01:35:27.680 --> 01:35:29.840
improvements in two to three days and I was like, cool,

2188
01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:32.399
that'll be just about when I'm done working four days straight.

2189
01:35:32.600 --> 01:35:32.800
Yep.

2190
01:35:33.039 --> 01:35:35.680
So anyway, but my point is so I may have

2191
01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:38.680
missed it. But he doesn't really like romance.

2192
01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:39.199
Lie.

2193
01:35:39.479 --> 01:35:40.960
No, He's just like, oh, we'll just go and have

2194
01:35:41.039 --> 01:35:42.960
a good time. We just like it'll be fun. Well,

2195
01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:43.279
have agreed.

2196
01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:45.439
He basically says like, you know, it's Sue's idea and

2197
01:35:45.479 --> 01:35:47.880
I'm happy to facilitate it. And I mean that's that

2198
01:35:48.119 --> 01:35:50.720
that is right. There just shows the three of them

2199
01:35:51.039 --> 01:35:53.560
want good things for Carrie together and she actually sees

2200
01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:55.079
it and she's just like all right, but if this

2201
01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:56.920
is like if I find out something else, like you're

2202
01:35:56.920 --> 01:35:57.399
both dead.

2203
01:35:58.239 --> 01:36:01.039
Now, let's real talk. Did you go to prom?

2204
01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:05.680
Yes, both junior and senior? Yes, ju so junior year,

2205
01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:09.560
my date canceled on me in the last Yeah, my

2206
01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:10.319
day canceled on me.

2207
01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:12.199
You were different, David three days before?

2208
01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:16.479
Ouch, why did not say? I think went with somebody else?

2209
01:36:16.479 --> 01:36:18.000
But I'm not mistaken. Kind of just let that go.

2210
01:36:18.720 --> 01:36:19.319
Uh were you?

2211
01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:20.520
Were you seeing each other?

2212
01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:22.760
No, it was we were friends and she just kind

2213
01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:23.199
of did that to me.

2214
01:36:23.279 --> 01:36:25.680
So you probably ended up being able to go with

2215
01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:27.199
a guy she was like in could have been. I'm

2216
01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:30.600
not trying to be yan because I went to I'm

2217
01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:32.079
not gonna interrupt. I want to hear the last year

2218
01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:33.760
I went to junior prom, I didn't go to senior prom.

2219
01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:35.439
I was already dropp out of highchool. Yeah, so I

2220
01:36:35.439 --> 01:36:36.800
showed up the prom and actually a lot of people

2221
01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:38.600
were like, we never went to Midwinter I'll say that,

2222
01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:41.039
but I don't even know what that means. I know

2223
01:36:41.119 --> 01:36:42.399
there's a homecoming.

2224
01:36:42.039 --> 01:36:43.600
Homecoming midwinter prom, and I don't.

2225
01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:45.199
I didn't even know about Midwinter. We need not have

2226
01:36:45.239 --> 01:36:47.000
had it at my school for all I know. But yeah,

2227
01:36:47.279 --> 01:36:50.000
but I went with a friend that asked me because

2228
01:36:50.039 --> 01:36:51.880
she just really didn't want to go by herself.

2229
01:36:51.960 --> 01:36:52.560
Yeah, and she was.

2230
01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:55.800
She was a very awkward, sweet but very awkward young woman.

2231
01:36:56.119 --> 01:37:00.399
She was six foot tall. Interesting at sixteen years old.

2232
01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:00.680
Damn.

2233
01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:04.680
Okay, she was very tall. Yeah, and I wish I

2234
01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:06.840
know there's a photo somewhere. My mom took a picture

2235
01:37:06.920 --> 01:37:09.960
when she picked me up. But like, so she's like,

2236
01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:13.760
I'm I'm on a good day. Five foot eight, so

2237
01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:17.680
she's very very tall. Yeah, anyway, that's so. I went

2238
01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:18.319
with a friend, but.

2239
01:37:18.479 --> 01:37:20.640
So so so she had canceled on me, like three

2240
01:37:20.720 --> 01:37:23.479
days before I would staggered. No. I actually luckily had

2241
01:37:23.479 --> 01:37:25.960
a friend who had graduated the previous year and we

2242
01:37:26.159 --> 01:37:28.560
and she was just like, well, do you want to go? Like, I'll,

2243
01:37:28.920 --> 01:37:30.720
I'll go with you. So me and Lish ended up

2244
01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:34.439
going together. And then my senior year, one of my

2245
01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:36.680
best friends and I went and had a great time.

2246
01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:40.199
So both times it was platonic. Great, Yeah, both timesatonic?

2247
01:37:40.279 --> 01:37:42.840
Yeah okay, yeah, wow, it was.

2248
01:37:43.239 --> 01:37:44.079
It was a lot of fun.

2249
01:37:44.319 --> 01:37:46.199
Her a handsome boy. Well what was happening?

2250
01:37:46.279 --> 01:37:48.319
It was more so just the fact that like I

2251
01:37:49.720 --> 01:37:52.319
I didn't care, Like I hate saying that, but like

2252
01:37:52.479 --> 01:37:54.520
because you were you were kind of above it. Yeah,

2253
01:37:54.680 --> 01:37:57.000
it was that, but also dude, I yeah that way. No,

2254
01:37:57.119 --> 01:37:58.640
it was it was that, but it was also the

2255
01:37:58.720 --> 01:38:02.239
fact that it was just like it my crowd didn't

2256
01:38:02.319 --> 01:38:04.520
really go to those That's my point.

2257
01:38:04.640 --> 01:38:06.760
Yeah, that was my point exactly, is that you guys

2258
01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:09.279
were you were too cool for it, too cool for it. Yeah,

2259
01:38:09.359 --> 01:38:11.399
but I get that, you know, there's a there's a

2260
01:38:11.479 --> 01:38:15.000
lot of pressure to these dances, a lot Like I

2261
01:38:15.159 --> 01:38:16.760
I can't tell you how many friends I had who

2262
01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:18.920
were like all excited to go and then their relationship

2263
01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:21.800
and like right then or at A lot of people

2264
01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:24.560
were breaking up at the junior prom. I So like

2265
01:38:24.920 --> 01:38:26.199
that was kind of my point too, is like if

2266
01:38:26.199 --> 01:38:28.600
you had like little girlfriends here and there, I mean

2267
01:38:28.760 --> 01:38:30.960
a lot of those high school things last like a

2268
01:38:31.039 --> 01:38:32.920
couple of months, so you might not make it to

2269
01:38:33.079 --> 01:38:33.520
uh dance.

2270
01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:36.760
Our prom was at the dayton Ma Sonic Center, so

2271
01:38:36.840 --> 01:38:39.720
it was a secret. Yeah, totally.

2272
01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:41.800
I've been making I've been making friends at the Masons.

2273
01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:43.720
I can't tell you who because it's a secret.

2274
01:38:43.760 --> 01:38:44.079
That's fair.

2275
01:38:44.119 --> 01:38:46.319
No, but a lot of Masonic people hang out at

2276
01:38:46.319 --> 01:38:46.640
the lounge.

2277
01:38:46.800 --> 01:38:46.960
Yeah.

2278
01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:48.600
But yeah, no, we went that was where it was.

2279
01:38:48.680 --> 01:38:51.119
Both times, I had a good time. I remember the

2280
01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:52.960
after parties way more than I do the actual prom.

2281
01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:54.920
The one thing I do remember about prom is for

2282
01:38:55.039 --> 01:38:58.640
my senior I did Bromstokers Dracula, so I did. I

2283
01:38:58.760 --> 01:39:00.800
did all get up. I still have the pictures if

2284
01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:02.159
you want to see him sometime. I don't want show

2285
01:39:02.199 --> 01:39:02.439
them to you.

2286
01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:07.479
But I went to Value City department store. Yeah, not

2287
01:39:07.680 --> 01:39:10.399
because I was poor, because at that point we're actually

2288
01:39:10.439 --> 01:39:13.279
doing very well. My mother was, you know, really got

2289
01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:17.960
our lives situated. But because Value City, which now the

2290
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:20.239
ones that exist still only self furniture. But there used

2291
01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:21.640
to be department stores, so I don't know if you

2292
01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:24.560
ever went to one. They had everything. They had suits

2293
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:28.079
and dress pants and dress shoes. And it's where I

2294
01:39:28.159 --> 01:39:31.399
found my Freddy's Nightmare vhs. Literally there's a stack of

2295
01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:33.399
old new tapes. Yeah, one day and I was like

2296
01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:36.520
mom and so we loved. I loved going there because

2297
01:39:36.560 --> 01:39:38.600
you could buy something brand new that was really pretty

2298
01:39:38.600 --> 01:39:41.199
affordable when I was a kid. But I loved Value

2299
01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:43.960
City for dress clothes because they had gaudy stuff.

2300
01:39:43.960 --> 01:39:44.479
Oh I bet.

2301
01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:50.680
And my outfit was I had a white shirt, I

2302
01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:52.920
had a tie. I bought a Value City that was

2303
01:39:52.960 --> 01:39:57.119
a Jerry Garcia tie because it was like crazy purples,

2304
01:39:57.239 --> 01:40:01.439
like really loud. I bought a a suit that was

2305
01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:05.680
a black jacket with square like thatching, so like the

2306
01:40:05.800 --> 01:40:08.600
lines going both ways that made the little squares, and

2307
01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:15.199
the pants were royal blue, like like bright blue. And

2308
01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:17.680
then I went to Today's Man at the mall which

2309
01:40:17.880 --> 01:40:23.960
and bought Gaiter blue Gaiter shoes with gold tips on

2310
01:40:24.079 --> 01:40:24.800
the on the toe.

2311
01:40:25.119 --> 01:40:25.439
Nice.

2312
01:40:25.960 --> 01:40:28.880
And that was what I wore to the prom. And

2313
01:40:30.439 --> 01:40:32.600
I wore that suit so many other times too. I

2314
01:40:32.680 --> 01:40:35.039
wore so many conventions and things like that.

2315
01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:38.039
I did realize I misremembered my home My senior homecoming

2316
01:40:38.079 --> 01:40:40.079
is when I did the Dracula. I'm dressed up for

2317
01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:41.880
both proms. I had to think about that for a second.

2318
01:40:41.880 --> 01:40:43.800
And when you say Dracula, you mean just like in Styler,

2319
01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:44.920
did you wear like makeup?

2320
01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:47.039
I had a wig, I had the hat, I had

2321
01:40:47.159 --> 01:40:50.039
the coat, I had the cane, I had the glasses.

2322
01:40:50.159 --> 01:40:52.399
Yeah it's bad. I'll show you a picture after this.

2323
01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:56.399
Maybe maybe I'll even post the picture when this episode

2324
01:40:56.439 --> 01:40:58.279
goes up on the du movie Facebook page.

2325
01:40:58.479 --> 01:40:58.760
Wow.

2326
01:40:59.000 --> 01:41:02.439
Maybe, but yeah, I but yeah prom for me, I

2327
01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:06.000
had great times at both. Luckily, like I said, the

2328
01:41:06.039 --> 01:41:09.359
whole thing with with my date canceling on me, like

2329
01:41:09.439 --> 01:41:12.159
you know, it sucked, Like I mean that that fucking sucked.

2330
01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:14.800
But luckily, yeah, my friend Lish came and clutched for me.

2331
01:41:15.199 --> 01:41:17.600
I felt I feel bad even remembering it because I

2332
01:41:17.720 --> 01:41:19.960
did not have a good time. I hated being at

2333
01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:22.720
the prom. I didn't like the people there. I had

2334
01:41:22.720 --> 01:41:25.600
a few friends yeah that were there who were excited

2335
01:41:25.640 --> 01:41:29.039
to see me, but like I did not want to.

2336
01:41:29.119 --> 01:41:31.279
I didn't really once I got there, I was like, shit,

2337
01:41:31.359 --> 01:41:33.880
I really don't like this. Yeah, Like I don't really

2338
01:41:33.920 --> 01:41:35.560
want to be here. I felt so bad for my

2339
01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:37.399
date because like I didn't go to after prom. I

2340
01:41:37.479 --> 01:41:38.720
was like, I really just don't want to be around

2341
01:41:38.720 --> 01:41:40.880
these people anymore. Like I had dropped out of high

2342
01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:44.479
school like eight months earlier because I hated everything about school.

2343
01:41:44.479 --> 01:41:45.760
We didn't go to after Probam. We made our own

2344
01:41:45.760 --> 01:41:48.520
After prom, I had a hot tub, man, what do

2345
01:41:48.560 --> 01:41:48.840
you want?

2346
01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:50.520
Fucking bad people?

2347
01:41:51.640 --> 01:41:55.840
So by this point we also see the vengeance that

2348
01:41:56.279 --> 01:41:59.680
Chris is plotting against Carry, which is I forgot how

2349
01:41:59.720 --> 01:42:00.560
fun can heinous?

2350
01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:03.039
It was like slaughterhouse.

2351
01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:06.000
Yeah, so I mean we're seeing we're seeing John Travolta

2352
01:42:06.039 --> 01:42:08.439
and his buddies along with Chris walking across this huge

2353
01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:11.880
mural of this slaughterhouse. They get inside and Travolta just

2354
01:42:11.920 --> 01:42:14.000
gets in between these pigs and just starts swinging a sledge.

2355
01:42:14.119 --> 01:42:15.960
Well, well, first he's trying to get his buddy to

2356
01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:18.119
do it. Yeah, and his buddy chickens out. So then

2357
01:42:18.159 --> 01:42:20.600
you find out that Travolta is, you know, he's a

2358
01:42:20.640 --> 01:42:21.399
pretty mean bude.

2359
01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:22.920
Pigs you think they killed for that bucket?

2360
01:42:23.279 --> 01:42:24.039
Honestly, you don't.

2361
01:42:24.640 --> 01:42:27.439
Sounds are huge, Yeah, maybe too maybe two okay, maybe

2362
01:42:27.479 --> 01:42:30.119
too fun fact that much blood in the book two buckets?

2363
01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:33.800
Well oh yeah yeah, damns.

2364
01:42:33.840 --> 01:42:34.960
A lot of pigs are dead in the book.

2365
01:42:36.359 --> 01:42:39.279
I mean you could have gone. You could have just

2366
01:42:39.359 --> 01:42:41.720
went with like a bunch of like of table tennis

2367
01:42:41.760 --> 01:42:43.359
balls that were ping pong balls.

2368
01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:47.640
So by this point, Carrie also has to tell her mom,

2369
01:42:48.239 --> 01:42:55.640
and she has to tell her mom, uh, delicately, yeah, you.

2370
01:42:55.640 --> 01:42:57.479
Gotta dress that up, you gotta dress that up.

2371
01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:00.159
Yes, So she informs her mom that she attends, that

2372
01:43:00.239 --> 01:43:03.000
she wants to attend the prom, and of course Piper

2373
01:43:03.039 --> 01:43:05.039
Laurie forbids it. She's just like, you can't do it,

2374
01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:07.920
like it's a sin and you will be cast out

2375
01:43:07.960 --> 01:43:09.760
if you do this. And Carrie stands up to her

2376
01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:11.920
and says, no, I'm going to go and I'm gonna

2377
01:43:11.960 --> 01:43:12.640
have a good time.

2378
01:43:12.880 --> 01:43:17.199
But the sad thing is her mom's right.

2379
01:43:17.479 --> 01:43:19.920
Her mom's right. But this is bad. It's bad because

2380
01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:22.920
also she starts to use her tele powers at this

2381
01:43:22.960 --> 01:43:25.079
point because she gets angry. And this is the first

2382
01:43:25.159 --> 01:43:27.600
instance of her mom actually seeing them that we see.

2383
01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:29.840
Yes, yeah, I mean she there's no way that it

2384
01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:32.479
never happens, never happened. Yeah, but this is but it's

2385
01:43:32.520 --> 01:43:34.600
becoming clear as we're watching it that Carrie's abilities.

2386
01:43:34.680 --> 01:43:36.560
This is the mirror, right, I believe? So yeah, this

2387
01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:36.760
is so.

2388
01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:37.159
Yeah.

2389
01:43:37.199 --> 01:43:38.680
She's in the bathroom of their mom and the mirror

2390
01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:40.520
just shatters like this is the famous clip from the

2391
01:43:40.520 --> 01:43:42.479
trailer as the mir shakes and then completely breaks and

2392
01:43:42.560 --> 01:43:45.600
her mom gets spooted, wouldn't you. Yeah, her mom gets

2393
01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:47.960
spooed and denounces Carrie as a witch. At this point,

2394
01:43:48.079 --> 01:43:50.239
so Carrie still says she's going to the prom. Mom

2395
01:43:50.319 --> 01:43:53.159
calls her a witch, and now we are moving into

2396
01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:54.520
prom touch.

2397
01:43:54.359 --> 01:43:56.439
They're all gonna laugh at you. Well, remember that's what

2398
01:43:56.479 --> 01:43:58.119
she's warning her though. She's saying, like they're gonna make

2399
01:43:58.199 --> 01:44:01.119
fun of you. This is not where you along and

2400
01:44:02.199 --> 01:44:05.720
her mom's pretty much seeing what's going to happen. It's

2401
01:44:05.760 --> 01:44:08.079
going to happen, yeah, which is which is really tragic

2402
01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:11.680
too because again like she's not but she's trying to

2403
01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:14.439
be helpful in her twisted way.

2404
01:44:14.640 --> 01:44:16.840
And then we also see the second part of Chris's

2405
01:44:16.880 --> 01:44:19.439
revenge plan that they are now at the prom setting

2406
01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:21.920
the day before prom is going to be and he

2407
01:44:22.119 --> 01:44:24.800
is up in the loft setting the bucket right above them,

2408
01:44:24.960 --> 01:44:27.279
because the plan is now is that they are going

2409
01:44:27.359 --> 01:44:30.279
to manipulate the votes for prom King and Queen to

2410
01:44:30.399 --> 01:44:33.159
have Carrie and Tommy win so that they can drop

2411
01:44:33.199 --> 01:44:35.520
a bucket of Pig's blood on Kerry in front of everyone.

2412
01:44:35.600 --> 01:44:39.680
Well, David, that's that's a bit specious. I have an

2413
01:44:39.720 --> 01:44:42.760
undergod authority. That was the most secure election in the

2414
01:44:42.840 --> 01:44:43.880
history of proms.

2415
01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:44.000
Was it?

2416
01:44:44.640 --> 01:44:46.079
Because we see how it's handled.

2417
01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:46.680
Yeah.

2418
01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:47.079
Yeah.

2419
01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:50.479
So by this point Chris is also instructing tom or

2420
01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:55.399
instructing what's it what is his name? Is it? Billy? Yeah,

2421
01:44:55.479 --> 01:44:58.800
Billy and Tommy. Yeah, she just he's instructing Billy and

2422
01:44:59.119 --> 01:45:00.880
they get the bucket play, and that's when we also

2423
01:45:00.920 --> 01:45:02.760
see that their plan is to hide under the stage

2424
01:45:02.840 --> 01:45:05.119
with the rope and then pull it when the time comes.

2425
01:45:05.800 --> 01:45:10.199
And uh, what a heinous it's a really somebody in

2426
01:45:10.359 --> 01:45:11.039
pigs blood?

2427
01:45:11.159 --> 01:45:12.439
Yeah, I mean like it. That's kind of one of

2428
01:45:12.479 --> 01:45:13.880
the things that I was even thinking on last night

2429
01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:16.119
was it was just like, we all know the story

2430
01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:17.560
of Kerry for the most part, so we know that

2431
01:45:17.680 --> 01:45:19.239
being the thing that's like people at least know that

2432
01:45:19.520 --> 01:45:21.399
that thing, and it's just like, if you think about that,

2433
01:45:21.399 --> 01:45:23.119
the thing that's really fucking gross.

2434
01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:25.920
It's no, it's it's disgusting. Yeah, and it would smell horrible,

2435
01:45:26.279 --> 01:45:27.399
horrible everything about it.

2436
01:45:27.560 --> 01:45:29.800
You're never getting off that memory. Like, no one's gonna

2437
01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:31.520
forget about the girl that got covered in pig's blood.

2438
01:45:31.600 --> 01:45:33.960
No, well, they're really never going to forget about the

2439
01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:35.760
girl got covered in big blood, especially now.

2440
01:45:38.439 --> 01:45:42.399
So the next day it's prom we see everybody's getting ready.

2441
01:45:42.520 --> 01:45:44.399
In fact, we also see that the guy that is

2442
01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:46.680
going to be collecting the ballots gets met by one

2443
01:45:46.720 --> 01:45:48.520
of Billy's friends and he's just like, yeah, you know,

2444
01:45:48.560 --> 01:45:50.079
I wanted to help you count the ballots, and he's like,

2445
01:45:50.079 --> 01:45:51.319
all right, man, well can you be here at six

2446
01:45:51.479 --> 01:45:53.640
oh six isn't good for me? Eight? I'll be here

2447
01:45:53.680 --> 01:45:55.760
at eight eight sounds good and just walks off.

2448
01:45:56.439 --> 01:45:56.640
Yeah.

2449
01:45:57.399 --> 01:45:59.920
So we see everybody getting ready for prom, including Carry

2450
01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:01.000
who makes her own dress.

2451
01:46:01.560 --> 01:46:03.640
Yeah, And that's actually one of the scenes that made

2452
01:46:03.720 --> 01:46:06.760
me think a lot, because it's one of those things

2453
01:46:06.800 --> 01:46:10.039
where because all the other kids seem to come from

2454
01:46:10.520 --> 01:46:12.880
means Yeah. So when they when they say like, I

2455
01:46:12.920 --> 01:46:14.239
love your dress, where did you get it? And she's

2456
01:46:14.239 --> 01:46:15.840
like I made it, They're like, wow, you made it.

2457
01:46:16.239 --> 01:46:19.439
They're not even being sarcastic. No, they think that because

2458
01:46:19.479 --> 01:46:22.000
from their perspective making a dress would be really special.

2459
01:46:22.039 --> 01:46:23.640
From her perspective, it's like, no, that's what I have

2460
01:46:23.760 --> 01:46:23.920
to do.

2461
01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:26.319
What I have to do, like I make them, And naturally,

2462
01:46:26.439 --> 01:46:28.159
her mom walks in with her trying on the dress,

2463
01:46:28.239 --> 01:46:29.840
comments on her dirty pillows.

2464
01:46:30.880 --> 01:46:33.119
Yeah, there's some real memorable there, really.

2465
01:46:33.039 --> 01:46:36.079
Are, she says, their breast mother. Everyone has them. And

2466
01:46:36.199 --> 01:46:37.920
that's when Piper Laurie is just like, you know, why

2467
01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:40.399
don't you stay home. We'll take that dress off. We'll

2468
01:46:40.439 --> 01:46:42.520
burn it, we'll pray and you know, we'll get forgive us.

2469
01:46:42.600 --> 01:46:44.159
She's like, no, Mom, I'm going which.

2470
01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:45.800
And which is the other moment that made me go, man,

2471
01:46:45.920 --> 01:46:48.039
she really knows this is gonna go bad. Yeah, and

2472
01:46:48.119 --> 01:46:49.119
even really try him.

2473
01:46:49.199 --> 01:46:50.920
She's waiting on Tommy. At this point, her mom is

2474
01:46:50.960 --> 01:46:53.079
begging her and begging her, and Carrie is lashing out

2475
01:46:53.079 --> 01:46:54.960
a little bit with the powers and even throws her

2476
01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:57.239
mom back on the bed a couple of times and

2477
01:46:57.399 --> 01:46:59.520
basically tells her I'm going to prom. There's nothing you

2478
01:46:59.520 --> 01:47:00.600
can do. All be home after.

2479
01:47:01.600 --> 01:47:01.800
Yeah.

2480
01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:04.640
So she gets out to the car with Tommy. It's

2481
01:47:04.720 --> 01:47:07.119
really cute, like Tommy is basically just telling her, you know,

2482
01:47:07.159 --> 01:47:09.039
we're just gonna go have fun. You know, there's nothing,

2483
01:47:09.159 --> 01:47:10.760
you know, nothing to worry about, like, you know, just

2484
01:47:10.920 --> 01:47:11.800
enjoy yourself tonight.

2485
01:47:12.479 --> 01:47:17.199
Yeah. It's this build up is so well done. Yeah,

2486
01:47:17.359 --> 01:47:21.880
and it's the tragedy of it is really my favorite.

2487
01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:22.199
Yeah.

2488
01:47:22.239 --> 01:47:24.239
So and by this point too, news has gotten out

2489
01:47:24.239 --> 01:47:26.159
that Tommy and carry are going to prom together. And

2490
01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:29.479
you know, we see that Helen and PJ. Soul's character

2491
01:47:29.520 --> 01:47:31.359
are talking about it and laughing because they can't believe

2492
01:47:31.399 --> 01:47:34.039
that Tommy's taking her right. So we get to prom

2493
01:47:34.199 --> 01:47:36.439
everybody's a decked out, like you said, they're asking Carry

2494
01:47:36.439 --> 01:47:38.439
about her dress. She's telling they made it. There's a

2495
01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:41.319
really really cute scene between Tommy and Carry, which is

2496
01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:43.000
the one shot from the Palma that I love in

2497
01:47:43.079 --> 01:47:45.680
This is where the platform just spinning with them dancing.

2498
01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:48.079
Yeah, they're on a lazy Susan. Yeah, so that they're

2499
01:47:48.279 --> 01:47:50.600
kind of spinning. Yeah, so the background's moving and they're

2500
01:47:50.600 --> 01:47:51.359
staying still.

2501
01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:54.920
But they're laughing. Carrie's having a great time. And eventually

2502
01:47:54.960 --> 01:47:56.359
they sit down at the table and they see that

2503
01:47:56.479 --> 01:47:58.079
they're on the prom court and she's like, did you

2504
01:47:58.159 --> 01:47:59.640
know about this? And he's like I did not, And

2505
01:47:59.760 --> 01:48:01.600
she's like you know, oh, and he's like, well, you know,

2506
01:48:01.680 --> 01:48:03.800
we can, you know, we can just cross ourselves off

2507
01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:05.079
and you know if we don't want to do She's like, no,

2508
01:48:05.239 --> 01:48:06.720
what's fine, Well, who do you want to vote for?

2509
01:48:06.960 --> 01:48:08.680
You want to vote for us? Now we shouldn't vote

2510
01:48:08.680 --> 01:48:11.199
for us. So then we get to the point of PJ.

2511
01:48:11.319 --> 01:48:13.439
Soul's collecting the ballots, which she collects the ones from

2512
01:48:13.479 --> 01:48:16.319
the tables and then swaps them with the pre made ones.

2513
01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:16.840
Yeah.

2514
01:48:18.960 --> 01:48:20.720
So we get to the time where it's time for

2515
01:48:20.840 --> 01:48:23.600
prom king and court to be announced, and naturally, Tommy

2516
01:48:23.760 --> 01:48:26.840
and Carrier announced. They go up on stage and everybody's cheering,

2517
01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:29.720
everybody's applauding. By this point too, Sue has gotten to

2518
01:48:29.760 --> 01:48:31.239
the prom and she's on the side of the stage

2519
01:48:31.279 --> 01:48:34.960
looking at them. But what we don't realize until they

2520
01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:37.479
show us via panning, is that Sue is leaning against

2521
01:48:37.720 --> 01:48:40.600
the rope that Billy and Chris are under the stage

2522
01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:42.680
holding that is going to drop the pigs blood, and

2523
01:48:43.039 --> 01:48:46.039
right is everybody is getting ready to applaud they're getting crowned.

2524
01:48:46.159 --> 01:48:49.199
Sue notices the rope, follows it up and sees and

2525
01:48:49.279 --> 01:48:52.039
then follows it around, and Mss Collins thinks she's getting

2526
01:48:52.039 --> 01:48:54.880
ready to pull a prank and pulls Sue away right

2527
01:48:54.960 --> 01:48:57.159
out the door, right as Chris pulls the rope, and

2528
01:48:57.199 --> 01:49:00.159
the pig's blood just spills all over carry.

2529
01:49:00.039 --> 01:49:01.920
And one thing that's kind of a funny thing to

2530
01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:07.039
consider is remember the big thing that this mean girl

2531
01:49:07.159 --> 01:49:10.039
wanted was to have her problem. Yeah, she gave up

2532
01:49:10.039 --> 01:49:11.479
her whole prom to do this shit to do that.

2533
01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:14.039
They're literally as everybody's dancing and having good time, stuff.

2534
01:49:14.159 --> 01:49:16.640
They're hiding under the stage, like to pull a prank.

2535
01:49:16.479 --> 01:49:19.760
On Tremalta's drunk off his ass drinking beers. But one

2536
01:49:19.800 --> 01:49:23.079
thing I love about this scene is the lack of audio,

2537
01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:27.239
because all we hear is the blood splash silence. We

2538
01:49:27.359 --> 01:49:29.800
see people reacting, We see people being shocked, a couple

2539
01:49:29.840 --> 01:49:33.560
people laugh, hej Soul starts laughing. People are horrified. But

2540
01:49:33.720 --> 01:49:37.119
then we also see that Tommy is just like, you know,

2541
01:49:37.159 --> 01:49:39.199
who the hell did that? We're reading his lips as

2542
01:49:39.239 --> 01:49:41.439
he's saying this, and then the bucket falls off and

2543
01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:43.640
hits Tommy right in the head, clocking him, taking him out.

2544
01:49:43.840 --> 01:49:46.239
Yeah, yeah, which is another great touch because it's so

2545
01:49:46.359 --> 01:49:48.560
realistic that then the bucket falls and wax him in the.

2546
01:49:48.520 --> 01:49:50.159
Head, whax him in the head. And then by this point,

2547
01:49:50.279 --> 01:49:54.439
Carrie starts to hallucinate that everybody is laughing, that everybody's laughing.

2548
01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:56.600
Her mom's words are start ringing. They're all gonna laugh

2549
01:49:56.640 --> 01:49:58.039
at you, They're all gonna laugh at you. And we

2550
01:49:58.119 --> 01:50:01.039
see the beautiful split screens and the circles of everybody

2551
01:50:01.079 --> 01:50:02.319
that DiPalma has come the no.

2552
01:50:02.760 --> 01:50:06.319
Yeah, it's like a kaleidoscope shot. Yeah, And I love

2553
01:50:06.399 --> 01:50:10.319
this too, because the whole concept that not everyone's laughing

2554
01:50:10.359 --> 01:50:13.159
at her. A few real big assholes are, but most

2555
01:50:13.159 --> 01:50:16.640
people are just like fuck, They're like up. Yeah, but

2556
01:50:16.840 --> 01:50:20.159
it doesn't matter anymore because Carrie has had it. She's

2557
01:50:20.199 --> 01:50:20.560
lost it.

2558
01:50:20.720 --> 01:50:25.079
Yes and yeah, so naturally we get the psychos things

2559
01:50:25.880 --> 01:50:28.399
as we see the doors all shut, we see everybody

2560
01:50:28.439 --> 01:50:30.960
gets sealed into the room, and all hell breaks loose

2561
01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:33.960
as the lights turn red. The doors are shutting on

2562
01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:35.359
people as they're trying to get the doors open.

2563
01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:39.439
The fire hose with the fire hose, Yeah, well by

2564
01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:42.079
lifting it's being they're spraying on their own. Yes, She's

2565
01:50:42.119 --> 01:50:45.960
doing everything, and and it's such a an iconic moment

2566
01:50:45.960 --> 01:50:48.079
where she turns her head and you see a thing happen.

2567
01:50:48.159 --> 01:50:49.800
She turns her head again and you see a thing happen.

2568
01:50:49.960 --> 01:50:52.560
But then Chris and Billy completely escape Scott free.

2569
01:50:52.760 --> 01:50:55.199
Yeah, which is also which is another great example, because

2570
01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:58.880
we we watch the person who looked out for Carrie

2571
01:50:58.920 --> 01:50:59.880
the most dies.

2572
01:51:00.279 --> 01:51:02.560
Horrible, horribly horribly.

2573
01:51:02.880 --> 01:51:05.439
She gets smashed up against the nearly cut in half.

2574
01:51:05.520 --> 01:51:07.720
Yeah, nearly cut in half. I mean at this point,

2575
01:51:07.760 --> 01:51:10.640
the fire hoses are spraying. We're seeing the great Sydney Lassek,

2576
01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:13.319
whoever got to mention as the teacher. Yes, he and

2577
01:51:13.399 --> 01:51:14.800
the guy are trying to get a hold of the

2578
01:51:14.840 --> 01:51:16.680
crowd and they're grabbing on the microphones and then carry

2579
01:51:16.960 --> 01:51:19.479
has the fire hoses go over the microphone and the electricity.

2580
01:51:19.520 --> 01:51:22.279
They get shocked, fire breaks out with that famous shot

2581
01:51:22.399 --> 01:51:26.000
of her and behind the prom like, I don't let

2582
01:51:26.039 --> 01:51:28.199
you call it a Yeah, I'm not sure what that

2583
01:51:28.359 --> 01:51:32.359
dressing the decoration, the decorations completely turns to fire, and

2584
01:51:32.439 --> 01:51:34.399
I mean, this is just this is a blood bath

2585
01:51:34.439 --> 01:51:36.279
at this point. People are people are dying, people are

2586
01:51:36.319 --> 01:51:39.000
getting sprayed by this fire hose. There's fire going everywhere,

2587
01:51:39.199 --> 01:51:41.920
and eventually she just walks out as we are seeing

2588
01:51:41.960 --> 01:51:44.079
these flames pummel up behind her.

2589
01:51:44.279 --> 01:51:47.560
Yeah, it's it's it's an incredible sequence.

2590
01:51:47.640 --> 01:51:47.840
Yeah.

2591
01:51:47.840 --> 01:51:50.760
I mean, everybody's raved about how great the end carry is,

2592
01:51:51.119 --> 01:51:54.239
but the tragic element is something that really sticks out

2593
01:51:54.239 --> 01:51:55.600
to be the older I get the more I watch it.

2594
01:51:55.680 --> 01:51:57.159
If so many innocent pieces.

2595
01:51:56.960 --> 01:51:59.920
So many are in that room, who to this calm?

2596
01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:02.800
I mean, these these people all paris because as Carrie

2597
01:52:02.840 --> 01:52:04.880
opens the doors and walks out, she seals them again

2598
01:52:04.880 --> 01:52:07.439
and we're hearing people screaming inside. The flames are getting higher.

2599
01:52:07.479 --> 01:52:09.880
I mean, by this point, everybody's gonna die inside the

2600
01:52:09.920 --> 01:52:10.720
school most likely.

2601
01:52:11.199 --> 01:52:14.199
And she walks home, walks home covered in pigs blood.

2602
01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:16.079
Covered in pigs blood. But right as she is walking

2603
01:52:16.159 --> 01:52:18.920
down her street, a familiar car comes into frame as

2604
01:52:19.039 --> 01:52:21.119
Chris and Billy are speeding up, and Chris tries to

2605
01:52:21.239 --> 01:52:23.920
run her down. Carrie turns around. Immediately we hear the

2606
01:52:23.960 --> 01:52:26.800
psychosting again, and the car completely goes on its side

2607
01:52:26.840 --> 01:52:28.600
and fucking rolls like three four ten.

2608
01:52:28.640 --> 01:52:31.960
Yeah, it's fucking it's flinged like it's nothing, which also

2609
01:52:32.119 --> 01:52:36.239
establishes that, like there's really no bounds to Carrie's telekinetic power.

2610
01:52:36.359 --> 01:52:38.520
So fun fact, a difference between the book at this

2611
01:52:38.600 --> 01:52:41.880
point in the movie is she blows up several petrol stations,

2612
01:52:42.039 --> 01:52:44.199
sends out a telekinetic message to the town that she

2613
01:52:44.359 --> 01:52:46.560
is the one causing this, basically shuts down the entire

2614
01:52:46.640 --> 01:52:48.920
town and kills a bunch more people. Yeah, so, I

2615
01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:50.760
mean it's the stakes are way higher in the book.

2616
01:52:50.800 --> 01:52:52.319
I mean they're pretty high in the movie as well.

2617
01:52:52.359 --> 01:52:54.159
But well, I also I think in the book the

2618
01:52:54.319 --> 01:52:56.800
town was a lot smaller, Yes, as to where in

2619
01:52:57.319 --> 01:53:01.880
the movie it's it's a it's a were sizeable community,

2620
01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:04.720
a more of a middle class kind of suburb, So yeah,

2621
01:53:04.760 --> 01:53:06.239
it would be it would be a huge thing for

2622
01:53:06.359 --> 01:53:08.800
to just I think it's bad enough. She's burning a

2623
01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:09.520
bunch of people alive.

2624
01:53:09.680 --> 01:53:11.439
So Chris and Billy die in the car because the

2625
01:53:11.479 --> 01:53:14.600
car explodes, and Carrie makes her way home. She goes

2626
01:53:14.720 --> 01:53:16.600
to take a bath and wash all the blood off her,

2627
01:53:16.760 --> 01:53:19.439
but when she gets home, she realizes that the house

2628
01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:23.159
is now completely filled wall to wall with candles.

2629
01:53:22.880 --> 01:53:25.119
With candles. And I want to say something that I

2630
01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:27.399
had a thought about when I was watching the ending, Yeah,

2631
01:53:27.600 --> 01:53:30.880
and that is think about her poor mother, her crazy,

2632
01:53:30.920 --> 01:53:36.399
crazy mom whose daughter is something else, yeah than normal. Yeah,

2633
01:53:37.039 --> 01:53:39.520
I just imagine that that she was like that every

2634
01:53:39.560 --> 01:53:41.600
one of those candles. She probably like literally said a

2635
01:53:41.640 --> 01:53:46.560
prayer on like ninety candles because she's so you know,

2636
01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:47.479
like gone.

2637
01:53:47.640 --> 01:53:50.000
I'm kind of I love the fact that she's not

2638
01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:52.359
present in the house when Carrie gets there, because that

2639
01:53:52.560 --> 01:53:55.439
kind of builds the idea of where, like, she's definitely here,

2640
01:53:55.760 --> 01:53:57.439
this is her house, She's here somewhere, But the fact

2641
01:53:57.479 --> 01:53:59.199
that we don't see her carry gets to wash the

2642
01:53:59.199 --> 01:54:01.279
blood off her get dressed, and then come back down

2643
01:54:01.319 --> 01:54:03.720
and her mom's waiting for her. It's like her mom

2644
01:54:03.840 --> 01:54:06.560
gave her the time to collect herself because now she's

2645
01:54:06.600 --> 01:54:07.159
got this plan.

2646
01:54:07.560 --> 01:54:10.199
Yeah. So Carrie's in the bathtub, yeah, you know, turning

2647
01:54:10.600 --> 01:54:12.720
bright red all the water in the tub. She cleans

2648
01:54:12.760 --> 01:54:14.800
herself off, and then we get that great reveal of

2649
01:54:14.880 --> 01:54:17.720
her mother, like behind the door. Yeah, and she has

2650
01:54:17.760 --> 01:54:20.760
a knife, yep, and she has decided that all she

2651
01:54:20.880 --> 01:54:23.119
can do is kill, kill carry.

2652
01:54:23.159 --> 01:54:26.479
And before she does this, though, Carrie is this like

2653
01:54:26.520 --> 01:54:27.880
they're on the steps because I think her mom is

2654
01:54:27.960 --> 01:54:30.720
late because they're getting ready to go downstairs, and Carrie's

2655
01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:33.680
mom basically tells her that, you know, I never thought

2656
01:54:33.680 --> 01:54:34.960
that it would be a sin. I would never sin

2657
01:54:35.079 --> 01:54:36.960
with my husband, but that then there was one drunken night,

2658
01:54:37.079 --> 01:54:40.239
then that was your conception and then he left us. Yeah,

2659
01:54:40.479 --> 01:54:43.800
and I mean basically blames Carrie for everything at this point.

2660
01:54:44.039 --> 01:54:47.279
Sure, but I also a reading I got because you know,

2661
01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:50.600
she stabs Carrie stabs fall down the stairs and then

2662
01:54:50.640 --> 01:54:52.319
she comes down there trying to finish the job.

2663
01:54:52.439 --> 01:54:55.239
Yes, while she's and it's fucking wielding that knife and

2664
01:54:55.439 --> 01:54:57.399
just is in like a stasis.

2665
01:54:57.920 --> 01:55:00.399
Yeah. Well, and and when she thinks she's about to

2666
01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:03.960
finally kill Carrie, she has this look, this this insane

2667
01:55:04.079 --> 01:55:07.640
grin and some one of the thoughts I had about it.

2668
01:55:07.680 --> 01:55:09.399
And I don't know if this is like a common thought.

2669
01:55:10.119 --> 01:55:12.079
I don't know if if to me, I don't know

2670
01:55:12.159 --> 01:55:14.399
if she had that big grin because she was just

2671
01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:19.680
completely insane, or if she was happy that she was

2672
01:55:19.760 --> 01:55:24.439
helping to end this like wretched life that they both live,

2673
01:55:25.159 --> 01:55:27.079
because I don't think. I think if she that after

2674
01:55:27.159 --> 01:55:29.359
she had killed Carrie, she's gonna kill herself. Yeah, So

2675
01:55:29.479 --> 01:55:31.039
part of me wonders if she's so happy because she

2676
01:55:31.119 --> 01:55:32.880
was like, we're gonna get out of this awful world.

2677
01:55:32.960 --> 01:55:35.199
The devil will be out of you and will be together,

2678
01:55:35.960 --> 01:55:38.439
you know, in heaven or whatever. Because all in her

2679
01:55:38.479 --> 01:55:41.680
twisted way, all she wanted was good for Carrie. It's

2680
01:55:41.840 --> 01:55:46.359
just deeply broken. I think there's no argument you could

2681
01:55:46.359 --> 01:55:48.119
make that she didn't love her daughter. Absolutely.

2682
01:55:48.319 --> 01:55:50.239
Yeah, she wouldn't do all this stuff and be concerned

2683
01:55:50.239 --> 01:55:52.520
about you know, let's stay home, we'll burn the dress

2684
01:55:52.640 --> 01:55:55.159
like I'm trying to save you. Is how this is

2685
01:55:55.199 --> 01:55:57.079
all coming out and that's that's why the only thing

2686
01:55:57.159 --> 01:55:58.960
that she can do at this point is save everybody

2687
01:55:59.079 --> 01:56:01.520
by taking her out of the equation as well, because

2688
01:56:01.880 --> 01:56:03.880
she knows that she can't control the powers.

2689
01:56:03.640 --> 01:56:07.319
Yeah, yeah, and and well and god like or worse yet,

2690
01:56:07.399 --> 01:56:10.399
she is controlling yeah, everybody. She's gonna be the end

2691
01:56:10.399 --> 01:56:10.840
of everything.

2692
01:56:10.920 --> 01:56:12.880
So by this point, Carrie has blood coming out of

2693
01:56:12.880 --> 01:56:15.000
her mouth. She's been stabbed maybe a couple times. And

2694
01:56:15.319 --> 01:56:17.359
she gets to this corner and her mom has her cornered,

2695
01:56:17.399 --> 01:56:19.560
and then she's standing in this doorway and then all

2696
01:56:19.560 --> 01:56:22.039
of a sudden, every sharp implement in this kitchen starts

2697
01:56:22.119 --> 01:56:24.560
flying right into Piper Laurie and just hits her in

2698
01:56:24.640 --> 01:56:26.479
the hits her in the chest, hits her in the side,

2699
01:56:26.560 --> 01:56:28.159
hits her in the shoulder, like I mean, there's like

2700
01:56:28.319 --> 01:56:31.199
seven knives of varying qualities that are in her by

2701
01:56:31.239 --> 01:56:33.680
this point, and she's pinned in a way that the

2702
01:56:33.720 --> 01:56:34.760
statue is in the closet.

2703
01:56:35.119 --> 01:56:37.399
She looks like the crucified statue, yes, which is one

2704
01:56:37.399 --> 01:56:39.319
of the reasons. Although it's interesting that it wasn't a

2705
01:56:39.800 --> 01:56:44.039
christ figure, because one of my thoughts was about that

2706
01:56:44.279 --> 01:56:47.439
matching the figure, which then as the house begins to

2707
01:56:47.520 --> 01:56:50.479
collapse and Carrie has just you know, gone nuclear with

2708
01:56:50.560 --> 01:56:52.760
her powers. Part of me thought that there was like

2709
01:56:52.840 --> 01:56:55.680
this element that like Piper Laurie's death was like a

2710
01:56:56.760 --> 01:56:59.439
was like the salvation of Carrie. Yeah, similar to the

2711
01:56:59.520 --> 01:57:03.399
idea of this statue being a symbol of salvation. Yeah.

2712
01:57:03.439 --> 01:57:05.079
Well, and what I love about the fact of you know,

2713
01:57:05.079 --> 01:57:07.239
I don't you know that she she murders her mom

2714
01:57:07.279 --> 01:57:10.159
with the telekinetic knives going into her and then goes

2715
01:57:10.279 --> 01:57:12.520
up to her crying and takes them all out. Yeah,

2716
01:57:12.520 --> 01:57:14.560
because her mom gets pinned to the fucking door frame,

2717
01:57:14.600 --> 01:57:16.399
like the knives go into her hand, like she's pinned

2718
01:57:16.399 --> 01:57:18.520
there like a cushion at this point.

2719
01:57:18.680 --> 01:57:22.399
So and the expression after her mother is definitely dead yeh,

2720
01:57:22.800 --> 01:57:23.880
is of peace.

2721
01:57:24.079 --> 01:57:24.359
Peace.

2722
01:57:24.600 --> 01:57:27.760
She doesn't look angry or sad or dead. She looks

2723
01:57:27.840 --> 01:57:30.680
like she's taking a good nap nap, Yeah, which is insane.

2724
01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:32.319
I love that visual. Yeah, terrifying.

2725
01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:34.439
So Carrie takes the knives out of her, carries her

2726
01:57:34.479 --> 01:57:36.560
mom into the prayer closet, and then by this point

2727
01:57:36.640 --> 01:57:38.800
it's up to interpretation, I feel like, because one could

2728
01:57:38.800 --> 01:57:41.840
say that Carrie completely does all this, or this could

2729
01:57:41.880 --> 01:57:43.119
be divine intervention.

2730
01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:43.760
That you're not wrong.

2731
01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:46.920
Yeah, because as she gets into the closet, fires start

2732
01:57:46.960 --> 01:57:49.680
breaking all around the house. The house completely starts collapsing

2733
01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:51.760
on her. And also she has her mom in the

2734
01:57:51.760 --> 01:57:53.560
closet with her and she's hugging her as the house

2735
01:57:53.640 --> 01:57:56.840
collapses around them. So the house completely sinks in. It's

2736
01:57:56.880 --> 01:57:58.920
burning down and everything. And the last shot we get

2737
01:57:59.039 --> 01:58:01.600
is this statue that we keep talking about, which is

2738
01:58:01.680 --> 01:58:03.960
exactly like her mom looked, you know, just not even

2739
01:58:03.960 --> 01:58:04.600
two minutes ago.

2740
01:58:04.720 --> 01:58:07.880
Do you ever think that maybe Carrie's killing her own

2741
01:58:07.920 --> 01:58:10.760
mother made her realize her mother was right that like

2742
01:58:10.840 --> 01:58:12.680
they should die. It could have been in there like

2743
01:58:12.760 --> 01:58:15.800
it has to stop. Yeah, because that's something I U

2744
01:58:16.079 --> 01:58:17.720
that popped into my head just now as you as

2745
01:58:17.760 --> 01:58:19.359
you mentioned like could it be divine an invention or

2746
01:58:19.359 --> 01:58:22.399
could it be Carrie finishing what her mother started because

2747
01:58:22.399 --> 01:58:25.279
she's realizing what she's done. A monster? Yeah, maybe I

2748
01:58:25.399 --> 01:58:26.840
am a monster. I don't know what's going on.

2749
01:58:27.159 --> 01:58:29.720
So the house is destroyed, her mom and her have

2750
01:58:29.840 --> 01:58:32.319
died at this point. Sometime later we see that Sue

2751
01:58:32.479 --> 01:58:35.000
is the sole survivor of that night, and she's walking

2752
01:58:35.079 --> 01:58:37.319
along the fence to the house, which is now completely

2753
01:58:37.439 --> 01:58:39.159
just a rock pile with a for sale sign on

2754
01:58:39.239 --> 01:58:42.199
it that says Carrie White burns in hell written in graffiti.

2755
01:58:41.840 --> 01:58:44.199
All h's and there was a lot of anti Carrie

2756
01:58:44.239 --> 01:58:46.199
graffiti throughout the movie. Yeah, it's worth mentioning.

2757
01:58:46.359 --> 01:58:48.439
So we also see that Sue is like in a

2758
01:58:48.680 --> 01:58:51.680
dreamy element. She's carrying flowers up to the sign, puts

2759
01:58:51.760 --> 01:58:54.359
them down, and then the infamous hand shoots out of

2760
01:58:54.399 --> 01:58:56.199
the ground grabs on to her, and we see that

2761
01:58:56.279 --> 01:58:59.119
Sue is completely having a nightmare and is hysteric. Now

2762
01:58:59.199 --> 01:59:01.640
her mom walks in try to comfort her, but Sue's

2763
01:59:01.680 --> 01:59:03.880
fucked up for life. Yeah, I mean, and we even

2764
01:59:03.880 --> 01:59:05.199
find that out in Rage Carrie too.

2765
01:59:05.279 --> 01:59:06.920
Yeah. And the audience isn't doing so good.

2766
01:59:07.039 --> 01:59:08.119
Audience is not doing so well.

2767
01:59:08.159 --> 01:59:10.640
Great, great, and scary. I know that it wasn't liked

2768
01:59:10.720 --> 01:59:13.439
by like any of the creative people at the time. Yeah,

2769
01:59:13.560 --> 01:59:14.640
but it is so memorable.

2770
01:59:14.640 --> 01:59:16.760
He became so memorable and got I mean, it got

2771
01:59:16.840 --> 01:59:18.840
homaged so much, so I.

2772
01:59:18.840 --> 01:59:21.359
Would say homage is kind I'd say it was stolen.

2773
01:59:22.239 --> 01:59:25.840
But that is nineteen seventy six is Carrie directed by

2774
01:59:25.880 --> 01:59:27.840
Brian Palma, and what a film.

2775
01:59:27.920 --> 01:59:30.920
This is uh yeah, I mean there's so much to

2776
01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:34.119
love about it. As we were breaking it down. It's

2777
01:59:34.159 --> 01:59:38.840
a simple story, very masterfully told. Yeah, super tragic because

2778
01:59:38.880 --> 01:59:41.920
so many people that had nothing to do with hurting

2779
01:59:42.039 --> 01:59:48.640
Carrie die because her rage is but it's it's it's

2780
01:59:48.640 --> 01:59:51.520
all encompassing. It's it's like a fire. Yeah, like the

2781
01:59:51.600 --> 01:59:55.079
fire that she starts. It consumes everything and once it starts,

2782
01:59:55.159 --> 01:59:55.920
you can't stop.

2783
01:59:55.800 --> 01:59:57.159
Can't stop it. So would you like to guess what

2784
01:59:57.199 --> 01:59:59.319
the budget was? I feel like it was under two

2785
01:59:59.520 --> 02:00:01.960
you are one point eight one point eight million.

2786
02:00:02.039 --> 02:00:02.560
That's snug.

2787
02:00:03.039 --> 02:00:06.039
There is no opening or anything like that for the figures.

2788
02:00:06.239 --> 02:00:08.359
Thirty three million is what it ends up taken in worldwide.

2789
02:00:08.560 --> 02:00:10.359
Really, yeah, it was even more than that, although that's

2790
02:00:10.399 --> 02:00:11.720
a lot considering.

2791
02:00:11.479 --> 02:00:12.199
Considering the time.

2792
02:00:12.359 --> 02:00:13.600
Very cheap or very high.

2793
02:00:13.760 --> 02:00:17.560
Yeah. Filmed in Hermosa Beach, Vernon, Los Angeles, Santa Paula,

2794
02:00:17.640 --> 02:00:20.600
San Fernando, California. Now, the tragic part of that is

2795
02:00:20.760 --> 02:00:23.159
is recently with the San Fernando fires, we did lose

2796
02:00:23.159 --> 02:00:25.800
a lot of locations, including the high school and I

2797
02:00:25.920 --> 02:00:27.720
believe even the house did get lost as well.

2798
02:00:28.039 --> 02:00:28.279
Wow.

2799
02:00:28.439 --> 02:00:31.239
Yeah, I mean we lost a lot of I mean great, yeah,

2800
02:00:31.319 --> 02:00:35.319
California things. Yeah, yeah, shot in a period of fifty days.

2801
02:00:36.039 --> 02:00:37.199
Yeah, that sounds right well.

2802
02:00:37.239 --> 02:00:39.279
Speaking at a book event in Fort Myers, Florida in

2803
02:00:39.319 --> 02:00:41.680
twenty ten, Stephen King recalled that he was paid two

2804
02:00:41.800 --> 02:00:43.800
hundred or two thy five hundred dollars for the movie

2805
02:00:43.880 --> 02:00:46.439
rights to Carry, which may seem like a pittance, but

2806
02:00:46.560 --> 02:00:49.399
he has no regrets. I was fortunate to have that

2807
02:00:49.520 --> 02:00:52.039
happen to my first book. King said, that's all.

2808
02:00:52.159 --> 02:00:54.840
He didn't have back ends or he got that little.

2809
02:00:55.319 --> 02:00:57.119
They must have bought it early. They must have bought it.

2810
02:00:57.199 --> 02:00:58.920
They must have bought it before it went to paperbacks,

2811
02:00:58.920 --> 02:01:01.000
possibly because I know that he didn't make a crapload

2812
02:01:01.000 --> 02:01:01.800
of money till it went.

2813
02:01:01.720 --> 02:01:02.760
To pay ony.

2814
02:01:03.199 --> 02:01:05.680
He talks about that in detail in On Writing, On Writing,

2815
02:01:06.119 --> 02:01:07.520
how he's like, they want to do a paperback and

2816
02:01:07.600 --> 02:01:09.800
his wife was like, I think the Godfather got like

2817
02:01:10.319 --> 02:01:12.600
ten million dollars for paperback, and he finally was getting

2818
02:01:12.640 --> 02:01:14.560
multimillion dollars for the paperback release.

2819
02:01:14.760 --> 02:01:17.279
Jack Fisk revealed to Indy Wire about casting of Sissy

2820
02:01:17.319 --> 02:01:20.279
Spacek because of Phantom, Brian actually thought of Sissy as

2821
02:01:20.279 --> 02:01:21.960
a set dresser. She was a set dresser on Di

2822
02:01:22.000 --> 02:01:24.640
Palm the films early on Oh Wow, Okay, when I

2823
02:01:24.680 --> 02:01:27.640
got together with Brian on Carrie, Cissy called him and said, Brian,

2824
02:01:27.720 --> 02:01:30.000
I'm coming in for a test, to test for Carrie,

2825
02:01:30.039 --> 02:01:32.159
but I've also got an audition for Vanquished commercial where

2826
02:01:32.199 --> 02:01:34.399
I can make ten thousand dollars. Should I do that

2827
02:01:34.600 --> 02:01:37.039
or come in? She thought he'd say, oh, please come in,

2828
02:01:37.119 --> 02:01:39.239
I've got to see you, but he actually said, well, Sissy,

2829
02:01:39.319 --> 02:01:41.199
I think you ought to do the commercial. She got

2830
02:01:41.319 --> 02:01:43.279
so upset that she sat down in her living room

2831
02:01:43.319 --> 02:01:45.920
into Panga Canyon, read the book Carrie from cover to cover,

2832
02:01:46.319 --> 02:01:48.720
didn't sleep, got up the next morning, put vasily in

2833
02:01:48.760 --> 02:01:50.800
her in her hair, put a little sailor dress that

2834
02:01:50.880 --> 02:01:52.640
her mother had made for her in seventh grade, and

2835
02:01:52.720 --> 02:01:56.520
then she went in for the testing. Wow Yeah. When

2836
02:01:56.560 --> 02:01:59.319
Sissy Spacek was preparing for her character, she isolated herself

2837
02:01:59.319 --> 02:02:01.640
from the rest of the ensemble, decorated her dressing room

2838
02:02:01.680 --> 02:02:06.039
with heavy religious iconography, and studied Gustav Dore's Illustrated Bible.

2839
02:02:06.119 --> 02:02:08.479
She studied the body language of people being stoned for

2840
02:02:08.520 --> 02:02:11.560
their sins, starting or ending every scene in one of

2841
02:02:11.600 --> 02:02:12.760
those positions.

2842
02:02:12.760 --> 02:02:14.520
Damn, yeah, Wow, yeah.

2843
02:02:14.680 --> 02:02:16.960
Sissy Spacek asked Brian to Palma how he wanted her

2844
02:02:17.039 --> 02:02:19.319
to react when Carrie first realizes that she is bleeding

2845
02:02:19.359 --> 02:02:21.239
in the showers at the start, and Palmer told her,

2846
02:02:21.319 --> 02:02:23.840
it's like you've been hit by a mac truck. Spacek

2847
02:02:23.880 --> 02:02:25.720
told her that her talk to her husband, Jack Fisk,

2848
02:02:25.760 --> 02:02:27.399
who was the art director on the film, who as

2849
02:02:27.439 --> 02:02:29.199
a child, had been run over by a car when

2850
02:02:29.239 --> 02:02:31.199
he was standing in the streets looking at Christmas lights.

2851
02:02:31.359 --> 02:02:34.239
A neighborhood put up used this description of the experience

2852
02:02:34.279 --> 02:02:38.279
as basis for the scene shit Okay. To become Carrie,

2853
02:02:38.319 --> 02:02:41.359
Sissy Spacek would intentionally avoid socializing with the other actors

2854
02:02:41.479 --> 02:02:43.279
on and off set. She would stay in her trailer

2855
02:02:43.359 --> 02:02:45.560
or hide in the corner or behind the set. Also,

2856
02:02:45.640 --> 02:02:47.920
before this happened, she warned the other actors that although

2857
02:02:48.000 --> 02:02:49.640
she loved them, she would be avoiding them so she

2858
02:02:49.640 --> 02:02:52.119
could stay in character, and they respected Sissy Spacek for it.

2859
02:02:52.439 --> 02:02:53.960
She told them that they would have so much fun

2860
02:02:54.039 --> 02:02:55.520
together after the movie was finished.

2861
02:02:56.079 --> 02:02:58.199
I bet reality they were like, how we hate her

2862
02:02:58.279 --> 02:02:59.920
so much? Like thank god she's gonna.

2863
02:02:59.760 --> 02:03:02.760
She's Sissy Spacek was twenty five years old at the

2864
02:03:02.760 --> 02:03:04.840
time of filming, Carrie is seventeen years old. In the

2865
02:03:04.920 --> 02:03:09.279
novel That's very late to start Your period two. Initially

2866
02:03:09.560 --> 02:03:12.479
sad like that? Yeah, initially. PJ. Souls was only cast

2867
02:03:12.560 --> 02:03:14.640
for two weeks, but after she hit Sissy Spacek over

2868
02:03:14.680 --> 02:03:16.880
the head with a red baseball hat during the volleyball scene,

2869
02:03:16.880 --> 02:03:18.439
which is in the beginning of the film, Brian De

2870
02:03:18.520 --> 02:03:20.279
Palma decided to keep her around longer.

2871
02:03:20.640 --> 02:03:23.840
Oh oh, I mean when you impressed to Palma. Yeah.

2872
02:03:24.640 --> 02:03:26.960
Nancy Allen claims she never realized her character was going

2873
02:03:27.039 --> 02:03:29.079
to be so evil until she saw the finished film.

2874
02:03:29.119 --> 02:03:31.119
She thought that she and John Travolta were playing such

2875
02:03:31.279 --> 02:03:33.640
self centered, bickering morons that they were some kind of

2876
02:03:33.680 --> 02:03:35.840
comic relief killing pigs and all.

2877
02:03:36.920 --> 02:03:39.119
Well, it was a different time, Yeah, I mean, it

2878
02:03:39.239 --> 02:03:40.000
was a different time.

2879
02:03:40.199 --> 02:03:42.760
According to Piper Laurie, she honestly thought her character was

2880
02:03:42.840 --> 02:03:45.319
too over the top fanatical to be taken seriously. De

2881
02:03:45.439 --> 02:03:47.479
Palma had to take her aside and personally tell her

2882
02:03:47.560 --> 02:03:49.600
it was a horror film, not a black comedy as

2883
02:03:49.640 --> 02:03:52.199
she thought it was. Even so, she would constantly burst

2884
02:03:52.239 --> 02:03:54.520
out in laughter between takes because not only was her

2885
02:03:54.600 --> 02:03:57.680
characterization and wardrobe laughable in her eyes, but the dialogue

2886
02:03:57.720 --> 02:04:00.439
itself was humorous to her. To this day, she still

2887
02:04:00.479 --> 02:04:02.760
refers to and maintains that the movie as a black

2888
02:04:02.800 --> 02:04:04.840
comedy fair enough.

2889
02:04:04.880 --> 02:04:07.560
I mean, that's you know what Toby Hooper says said

2890
02:04:07.560 --> 02:04:09.840
about Texas Chainsaw Masker easily. I thought it was funny.

2891
02:04:09.880 --> 02:04:11.520
I'm like, okay, Toby.

2892
02:04:11.680 --> 02:04:13.840
Adding to the mother's delusional character is the fact that

2893
02:04:13.920 --> 02:04:15.880
none of the Bible passages in the film are generally

2894
02:04:15.960 --> 02:04:19.239
interpreted the way she interprets them. For example, she quotes

2895
02:04:19.319 --> 02:04:22.119
Genesis chapter three to say that sexuality is evil. The

2896
02:04:22.239 --> 02:04:24.239
chapter is a story of Adam and Eve eating the

2897
02:04:24.239 --> 02:04:27.119
forbidden fruit. While some Bible scholars draw parallels with this

2898
02:04:27.319 --> 02:04:30.600
and sexuality, particularly because of the passages mentioned of them

2899
02:04:30.680 --> 02:04:33.479
suddenly being ashamed of their nakedness, it is not generally

2900
02:04:33.560 --> 02:04:34.680
the accepted interpretation.

2901
02:04:35.000 --> 02:04:38.560
Well, there's also, you know, the concept that some people

2902
02:04:38.960 --> 02:04:42.640
follow that menstruation is a punishment for original sin. That's

2903
02:04:42.680 --> 02:04:45.479
why women do it, not men, because Eve betrayed Adam

2904
02:04:45.479 --> 02:04:48.359
and blah blah blah blah blah. So I mean it's

2905
02:04:48.439 --> 02:04:50.439
open you could interpret it that way. I mean, not

2906
02:04:50.520 --> 02:04:51.760
that people interpret the Bible.

2907
02:04:52.560 --> 02:04:54.840
Eadie mcclark, who played Helen in the film, originally had

2908
02:04:54.920 --> 02:04:56.680
no dialogue in any part of the film, so she

2909
02:04:56.800 --> 02:04:59.640
decided to improvise instead. This resulted in everything that we

2910
02:04:59.720 --> 02:05:01.880
see Helen say in the film being completely made up

2911
02:05:01.920 --> 02:05:05.399
by the actress with the Puma's blessing naturally nice, yeah, nice.

2912
02:05:05.760 --> 02:05:08.279
John Travolta auditioned on a lunch break while filming Welcome

2913
02:05:08.319 --> 02:05:10.640
Back Catter. He showed up for his audition still dressed

2914
02:05:10.640 --> 02:05:12.039
as Vinnie Barbarino.

2915
02:05:13.640 --> 02:05:14.000
Legend.

2916
02:05:14.199 --> 02:05:16.479
Sissy SpaceX film the scene in the locker room shower

2917
02:05:16.560 --> 02:05:18.439
without any of the other actresses on set.

2918
02:05:19.600 --> 02:05:22.199
I mean, that's quite a scene, Jesus.

2919
02:05:22.560 --> 02:05:24.439
During filming of the scene where Miss Collins is chewing

2920
02:05:24.439 --> 02:05:26.000
out the girls in the gym, Brian de Palma was

2921
02:05:26.000 --> 02:05:28.920
standing behind Amy, irving just off screen and whispering cruel

2922
02:05:28.960 --> 02:05:30.760
and hurtful things into her ears to make it in

2923
02:05:30.920 --> 02:05:32.800
order to make Sue's look of misery and guilt on

2924
02:05:32.880 --> 02:05:37.199
camera look genuine. Damn okay, De Palma wanted Betty Buckley

2925
02:05:37.319 --> 02:05:39.960
to really slap Nancy Allen because Alan couldn't get the

2926
02:05:39.960 --> 02:05:42.600
reaction to Palma wanted. Buckley ended up slapping her as

2927
02:05:42.640 --> 02:05:43.720
many as thirty times.

2928
02:05:44.800 --> 02:05:46.239
Jesus gotta get it right.

2929
02:05:47.079 --> 02:05:49.600
Prom scene took over two weeks to shoot and required

2930
02:05:49.600 --> 02:05:51.319
a total of thirty five takes.

2931
02:05:52.159 --> 02:05:55.239
That's thirty five Does sound sound like a lot? Maybe

2932
02:05:55.279 --> 02:05:56.960
they mean just of like the blood. That's what I'm

2933
02:05:57.199 --> 02:05:58.680
because that would take a long time to set up

2934
02:05:58.720 --> 02:05:59.960
and redo. You have to wash everything.

2935
02:06:00.239 --> 02:06:03.000
Oh yes, just wait. Originally, to Palma had used split

2936
02:06:03.039 --> 02:06:06.159
screen effect extensively during the prom scene. Disappointed with the results,

2937
02:06:06.199 --> 02:06:08.479
he re edited most of the scenes into full frame shots,

2938
02:06:08.560 --> 02:06:11.079
leaving only the few split screen moments that he felt worked.

2939
02:06:11.720 --> 02:06:13.960
He was right, yeah, because they worked very well.

2940
02:06:14.239 --> 02:06:16.239
The dizzy and camera shot during the prom scene was

2941
02:06:16.279 --> 02:06:18.520
achieved by placing William Kat and Sissy Spacek on a

2942
02:06:18.560 --> 02:06:20.800
platform that was spinning in one direction while the camera

2943
02:06:20.920 --> 02:06:22.520
was being dolly in the opposite direction.

2944
02:06:23.560 --> 02:06:23.800
Yeah.

2945
02:06:24.000 --> 02:06:26.439
Yeah, A lazy Susan is what they used to call it.

2946
02:06:26.680 --> 02:06:29.399
While filming the bloody prompt sequence, Sissy SpaceX trailer was

2947
02:06:29.439 --> 02:06:31.680
parked behind the set. After being covered in fake blood

2948
02:06:31.720 --> 02:06:34.840
for continuity purposes, Spacek refused to wash the effect off.

2949
02:06:34.960 --> 02:06:38.600
She elected to sleep too, excuse me, elected instead to

2950
02:06:38.680 --> 02:06:41.159
sleep in her bloody clothes for three days of filming.

2951
02:06:41.880 --> 02:06:44.560
Ew thank god she wasn't hanging out with anybody.

2952
02:06:45.720 --> 02:06:48.119
Betty Buckley's terrified look on the face right before she

2953
02:06:48.159 --> 02:06:50.239
gets killed is real. Since they hadn't been able to

2954
02:06:50.279 --> 02:06:52.359
test the falling backboard to make sure it would stop

2955
02:06:52.399 --> 02:06:54.279
where it was supposed to before hitting her, and no

2956
02:06:54.359 --> 02:06:56.079
one knew for certain whether it work or not.

2957
02:06:57.079 --> 02:07:02.000
That sounds a little scurriless. Who they didn't They had

2958
02:07:02.079 --> 02:07:05.680
to have tested it somewhat, probably didn't test it with her. Yeah,

2959
02:07:05.720 --> 02:07:07.520
in there they probably, I mean, because there's no way

2960
02:07:07.520 --> 02:07:10.520
they built that and went well in theory it'll stop

2961
02:07:10.560 --> 02:07:12.840
because like you could die. Like yeah.

2962
02:07:13.399 --> 02:07:17.119
Ever, the stickler for authenticity, Sissy Spacek, insisted she not

2963
02:07:17.239 --> 02:07:19.479
a double be the one whose hand shoots up from

2964
02:07:19.560 --> 02:07:22.399
Krie's grave during Sue Stelle's Nightmare sequence, So she was

2965
02:07:22.479 --> 02:07:25.359
positioned under the rocks and gravel. To Palma stated, Sissy,

2966
02:07:25.439 --> 02:07:26.960
come on, I'll get a stunt person. What do you

2967
02:07:27.039 --> 02:07:30.079
want to be buried in the ground. However, Spacek declared, Brian,

2968
02:07:30.119 --> 02:07:32.199
I have to do this. To Palma explains that they

2969
02:07:32.199 --> 02:07:34.319
had to bury her and bury her. We had to

2970
02:07:34.359 --> 02:07:36.880
put her in a box, and stick her underneath the ground. Well,

2971
02:07:36.960 --> 02:07:38.960
I had her husband bury her, because I certainly did

2972
02:07:39.079 --> 02:07:40.920
want to bury her. I used to walk around and

2973
02:07:40.960 --> 02:07:42.880
set up the shot. Every once in a while, we'd hear, Sissy,

2974
02:07:42.920 --> 02:07:45.039
are we ready yet? Yes, Sissy, We're gonna get ready

2975
02:07:45.039 --> 02:07:45.479
real soon.

2976
02:07:45.880 --> 02:07:47.439
Geez geez.

2977
02:07:47.920 --> 02:07:50.079
And the last scene of the film, Amy Irving's outburst

2978
02:07:50.159 --> 02:07:52.159
so terrified her in real life, her real life mother

2979
02:07:52.239 --> 02:07:55.119
Priscilla pointed her that she screamed out Amy instead of Sue.

2980
02:07:55.479 --> 02:07:57.680
She had never seen her daughter that hysterical and called

2981
02:07:57.680 --> 02:07:59.840
out her real name and concern. However, the loud music

2982
02:08:00.359 --> 02:08:01.159
covers the mistake.

2983
02:08:01.840 --> 02:08:02.680
Oh Wow Yeah.

2984
02:08:03.880 --> 02:08:06.079
In the nineteen seventy six film version of Carrie. Most

2985
02:08:06.199 --> 02:08:08.439
versions of Carrie, Carrie dies in her home after a

2986
02:08:08.479 --> 02:08:10.920
brutal confrontation with her mother. In the book, she stalks

2987
02:08:10.960 --> 02:08:13.000
Billy and Chris, who attempt to run her down the road.

2988
02:08:13.279 --> 02:08:15.279
She blows up the car, and then she collapses in

2989
02:08:15.359 --> 02:08:17.920
a field by the road. Sue finds her there confronts her,

2990
02:08:18.039 --> 02:08:19.600
letting her know that she was not in on the

2991
02:08:19.640 --> 02:08:22.199
prank to embarrasser, after which Carrie dies in the field

2992
02:08:22.279 --> 02:08:22.800
by the road.

2993
02:08:24.279 --> 02:08:27.319
I think the palma was much more interested in the mother. Yeah,

2994
02:08:27.439 --> 02:08:30.319
the Carrie mother connection, I think so than the initial

2995
02:08:30.439 --> 02:08:31.560
the book was initially Yeah.

2996
02:08:31.760 --> 02:08:33.760
When Carrie's mother meets her to Mi, she is stabbed

2997
02:08:33.800 --> 02:08:36.000
multiple times. For this scene, the knives started off in

2998
02:08:36.039 --> 02:08:38.680
Margaret's body before being pulled out by a string. When

2999
02:08:38.800 --> 02:08:40.680
editing the scene, they played the footage in reverse to

3000
02:08:40.760 --> 02:08:42.960
achieve the look of the knives flying in towards Margaret.

3001
02:08:43.840 --> 02:08:46.119
I mean that's how to do it. I mean it's

3002
02:08:46.159 --> 02:08:47.000
shocking to watch.

3003
02:08:47.199 --> 02:08:50.119
According to Sue Snell, the Rage Carrie, two seventy three

3004
02:08:50.159 --> 02:08:52.439
people died in the Prom massacre and that the few

3005
02:08:52.439 --> 02:08:54.439
people who made it out alive refuse to talk about

3006
02:08:54.439 --> 02:08:57.159
the incident afterwards, confirming that she wasn't the sole survivor.

3007
02:08:57.479 --> 02:08:59.600
In the novel, only eleven people were confirmed to have

3008
02:08:59.720 --> 02:09:04.279
escape from Prom and survived. Although the house used for

3009
02:09:04.319 --> 02:09:06.720
the White residence was a real home in Santa Paula, California,

3010
02:09:06.760 --> 02:09:08.960
a smaller replica building and its neighbor had to be

3011
02:09:09.039 --> 02:09:11.680
reconstructed in the studio to be burnt down. The original

3012
02:09:11.720 --> 02:09:13.800
script actually called for the house to be destroyed by

3013
02:09:13.840 --> 02:09:16.800
falling stones, but the effect proved less than spectacular on film.

3014
02:09:17.119 --> 02:09:19.399
Traces of the original idea can be seen in volcanic

3015
02:09:19.520 --> 02:09:21.800
rocks that filled the White's empty lot in the last shots,

3016
02:09:21.880 --> 02:09:23.680
instead of the charred remains of the frame house that

3017
02:09:23.680 --> 02:09:27.239
would normally be expected. Okay, When Carrie flips Billy's car,

3018
02:09:27.359 --> 02:09:29.600
the interior shot shows them spinning along with it. This

3019
02:09:29.680 --> 02:09:31.960
effect was not achieved by actually rotating the actors in

3020
02:09:32.039 --> 02:09:34.720
a car, but simply spinning the film frame and post production.

3021
02:09:36.680 --> 02:09:38.840
When the fire hoses sprayed at PJ. Soule's character, the

3022
02:09:38.880 --> 02:09:42.199
water pressure actually burst the actress's ear drums. Souls was

3023
02:09:42.239 --> 02:09:44.520
not actually unconscious when her head rolled to the side

3024
02:09:44.560 --> 02:09:46.359
of the force of the fire hose, but she was

3025
02:09:46.399 --> 02:09:49.760
in terrible pain and had lost her ability to maintain equilibrium,

3026
02:09:49.960 --> 02:09:52.319
which is governed by the ear. Brian to Palma decided

3027
02:09:52.359 --> 02:09:54.520
to keep the shot in. Souls had no hearing in

3028
02:09:54.600 --> 02:09:56.960
that ear for around six months afterwards, though the ear

3029
02:09:57.039 --> 02:10:02.039
drum did eventually heal. Jesus Pino di Nagio, the film's composer,

3030
02:10:02.119 --> 02:10:04.439
spoke no English, so he had a head of translator

3031
02:10:04.479 --> 02:10:06.319
on set while he scored the film to communicate with

3032
02:10:06.399 --> 02:10:09.359
Di Palma. In seventy nine, three years after Carrie Denajia

3033
02:10:09.359 --> 02:10:11.600
would go to work on Trust Trap, another seventies horror

3034
02:10:11.600 --> 02:10:14.560
about a string of telekinetic murders. Bernard Herman was Di

3035
02:10:14.640 --> 02:10:16.920
Palma's first choice to be the composer. Herman was set

3036
02:10:16.920 --> 02:10:19.119
to be the film's composer, but he died before production began,

3037
02:10:19.479 --> 02:10:22.399
leaving to Palma to substitute Dinaugio, who ironically wound up

3038
02:10:22.439 --> 02:10:25.640
ripping off Herman anyway by using Theamaus violent string violin

3039
02:10:25.720 --> 02:10:28.199
strings theme from Psycho to score the scenes where Kerrie

3040
02:10:28.319 --> 02:10:32.520
uses her telekinesis. Although there have been three versions of

3041
02:10:32.560 --> 02:10:34.399
Kerrie and a sequel at this point, the seventy six

3042
02:10:34.520 --> 02:10:36.600
version is the only version Stephen King likes. In fact,

3043
02:10:36.600 --> 02:10:38.560
they were planning to remake the version in twenty thirteen.

3044
02:10:38.640 --> 02:10:41.279
He openly asked the question why when the original was

3045
02:10:41.319 --> 02:10:43.920
so good. King even likes this version better than his

3046
02:10:44.000 --> 02:10:46.079
own novel. He says, it's much better than the book.

3047
02:10:46.920 --> 02:10:48.039
Okay, fair enough.

3048
02:10:48.119 --> 02:10:50.399
Yeah. The success of Kerry at the box office cement

3049
02:10:50.479 --> 02:10:52.680
that Stephen King's name as an author. King himself was

3050
02:10:52.720 --> 02:10:56.439
delighted with the film. After the film's office success, some

3051
02:10:56.680 --> 02:11:00.039
strikingly similar movies appeared, described by critics as ripoffs. The

3052
02:11:00.119 --> 02:11:02.239
Initiation of Sarah and seventy eight was a TV movie

3053
02:11:02.279 --> 02:11:04.720
starring Kay Len's as an outcast with telekinetic powers at

3054
02:11:04.720 --> 02:11:07.039
a college where a cruel sorority bullies her and plays

3055
02:11:07.079 --> 02:11:09.680
pranks on her. Jennifer in nineteen seventy eight starred Lisa

3056
02:11:09.760 --> 02:11:12.520
Pelican as a misfit as an elite private school who

3057
02:11:12.560 --> 02:11:15.920
takes revenge on her tormentors using her psychic powers over snakes.

3058
02:11:16.680 --> 02:11:17.079
Okay.

3059
02:11:17.960 --> 02:11:20.319
Amy Irving admits that she originally hated the script, but

3060
02:11:20.399 --> 02:11:22.720
she when she first received it. After seeing the finished film,

3061
02:11:22.800 --> 02:11:25.399
she thought it was simply magic and loved it. In

3062
02:11:25.640 --> 02:11:28.439
Carrie's House, the statue of religious figures shot with arrows

3063
02:11:28.479 --> 02:11:31.399
represents Saint Sebastian. It is not a crucifix and does

3064
02:11:31.479 --> 02:11:32.720
not represent Jesus Christ.

3065
02:11:33.840 --> 02:11:34.159
Okay.

3066
02:11:34.359 --> 02:11:37.000
The name of the high school in Bates is Bates High,

3067
02:11:37.000 --> 02:11:39.960
a reference to Norman bas from Psycho. In twenty twenty two,

3068
02:11:40.079 --> 02:11:43.079
it was selected for preservation the National Film Registry by

3069
02:11:43.119 --> 02:11:47.720
the Library of Congress, deeming it culturally, historically and oriesthetically significant.

3070
02:11:48.840 --> 02:11:51.239
I would agree, yeah, So what are your final thoughts

3071
02:11:51.279 --> 02:11:53.239
on nineteen seventy six's Carrie.

3072
02:11:53.159 --> 02:11:55.439
I mean it's an on it. Yeah, I mean it's

3073
02:11:55.479 --> 02:11:58.560
an absolute classic of horror and just cinema in general.

3074
02:11:58.760 --> 02:11:58.960
Yeah.

3075
02:11:59.119 --> 02:12:01.800
So yeah, one thousand percent that's an on it.

3076
02:12:01.880 --> 02:12:03.159
Yeah, it's a buy it for me as well. This

3077
02:12:03.319 --> 02:12:06.640
movie has so much pop culture references still to its

3078
02:12:06.760 --> 02:12:09.399
day that are being brought out in TV and movie.

3079
02:12:09.520 --> 02:12:14.359
I mean it is still talked about on multiple multiple surfaces,

3080
02:12:14.399 --> 02:12:16.319
both just in the themes of the film as well

3081
02:12:16.359 --> 02:12:18.520
as just the execution of the film. This is a

3082
02:12:18.720 --> 02:12:20.880
very important film in horror, but a very important film

3083
02:12:20.880 --> 02:12:21.760
in cinema entirely.

3084
02:12:21.960 --> 02:12:23.640
Yeah. I couldn't agree more so.

3085
02:12:24.640 --> 02:12:27.039
We always like to end the show with a couple recommendations.

3086
02:12:27.239 --> 02:12:29.520
The one or two I have this week include The

3087
02:12:29.600 --> 02:12:32.079
Fury from nineteen seventy eight, currently rentable on Prime and

3088
02:12:32.119 --> 02:12:34.800
fan Dango. A former CIA agent uses the talents of

3089
02:12:34.800 --> 02:12:37.399
a young psychic to help retrieve his telekinetic Sun from

3090
02:12:37.439 --> 02:12:39.960
a shadowy, secret government agency. If you have not seen

3091
02:12:40.000 --> 02:12:42.319
The Fury, all I ask of you is to go

3092
02:12:42.479 --> 02:12:45.880
on YouTube right now and type in Fury amusement Park scene,

3093
02:12:46.039 --> 02:12:47.399
and if that doesn't get you to watch it, I

3094
02:12:47.439 --> 02:12:48.159
don't know what will.

3095
02:12:48.760 --> 02:12:49.079
Okay.

3096
02:12:49.439 --> 02:12:51.479
And second recommendation is going to be two thousand and

3097
02:12:51.520 --> 02:12:55.159
twos may currently available on Prime Video. Fowsome, Pluto, Roku,

3098
02:12:55.279 --> 02:12:58.640
and Tub, a socially awkward veterinarian assistant with a lazy

3099
02:12:58.680 --> 02:13:01.800
eye and obsession with perfection, descends into depravity after developing

3100
02:13:01.800 --> 02:13:05.000
a crush on a boy with perfect hands. Oh perfect,

3101
02:13:05.319 --> 02:13:06.359
what's your recommendation?

3102
02:13:06.800 --> 02:13:06.960
You know?

3103
02:13:07.000 --> 02:13:10.399
I thought about it long and hard, and I'm gonna

3104
02:13:10.439 --> 02:13:12.319
go with one that I think no one's gonna expect,

3105
02:13:12.359 --> 02:13:14.039
and I hope if you haven't seen it, you should

3106
02:13:14.119 --> 02:13:16.439
check it out. I'm gonna go with nineteen ninety one's

3107
02:13:16.680 --> 02:13:20.720
Omen for the Awakening, Oh And, which is in many

3108
02:13:20.760 --> 02:13:25.119
ways a Remakeah, but it's a sequel basically starring the

3109
02:13:25.279 --> 02:13:29.800
daughter of Damien, and it's basically a very similar story,

3110
02:13:29.880 --> 02:13:33.279
but it's a little girl who becomes the Omen of

3111
02:13:33.399 --> 02:13:34.039
the anti Christ.

3112
02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:36.439
Very utterated TV movie it is, and it was a

3113
02:13:36.560 --> 02:13:37.359
TV movie, was for.

3114
02:13:37.479 --> 02:13:38.199
HBO, I believe.

3115
02:13:38.279 --> 02:13:38.439
Yeah.

3116
02:13:38.600 --> 02:13:41.600
So it's it's violent, it's it's and it was one

3117
02:13:41.680 --> 02:13:44.520
that I saw on cable in its first run and

3118
02:13:44.680 --> 02:13:46.600
it might have been, if probably the first OMEN movie

3119
02:13:46.640 --> 02:13:48.520
I ever saw, because it was always on HBO.

3120
02:13:48.640 --> 02:13:50.880
Does not surprise me and I really liked it.

3121
02:13:50.960 --> 02:13:54.079
I revisited it years later by finding the DVD, which

3122
02:13:54.159 --> 02:13:56.119
was like impossible to find for a while. Yeah, now

3123
02:13:56.199 --> 02:13:58.920
it's on a Blu ray box with the OMEN. In fact,

3124
02:13:59.760 --> 02:14:01.880
when the first OMEN Blu ray box came out, I

3125
02:14:02.079 --> 02:14:06.399
put my copy of four in there. But now there's

3126
02:14:06.720 --> 02:14:08.560
a full edition. But you could also rent it on

3127
02:14:08.760 --> 02:14:12.279
Prime Video. Unfortunately it's not readily available, which is a bummer.

3128
02:14:12.640 --> 02:14:15.000
But I really I've always thought it was extremely under it.

3129
02:14:15.079 --> 02:14:18.800
It's it's very underrated. So do we have any emails

3130
02:14:18.840 --> 02:14:19.119
this week?

3131
02:14:19.239 --> 02:14:21.439
We do want to remind everybody you could set us

3132
02:14:21.439 --> 02:14:24.279
an email at do you even movie pod at gmail

3133
02:14:24.359 --> 02:14:27.399
dot com. We loved hearing from you guys movies, you

3134
02:14:27.600 --> 02:14:31.359
like things, You're enjoying, anything you want. My ear really

3135
02:14:31.439 --> 02:14:36.840
really hurts. So this one is from Kramer. He says, Hey, guys,

3136
02:14:37.039 --> 02:14:39.159
just wanted to stop in and say thank you for

3137
02:14:39.279 --> 02:14:42.279
this podcast. My tuesdays at work would be hell without

3138
02:14:42.399 --> 02:14:45.640
Enrique picking on David and the deep dive David does

3139
02:14:45.720 --> 02:14:48.039
on the filmmakers involved with the film of the week.

3140
02:14:48.720 --> 02:14:50.479
My mental health hasn't been the best this year, and

3141
02:14:50.600 --> 02:14:53.439
in struggling to be creative, myself this podcast has been

3142
02:14:53.479 --> 02:14:56.560
a beacon of light as of late. I'd love to

3143
02:14:56.600 --> 02:14:59.520
hear you both tackle a few different films. Number one,

3144
02:14:59.720 --> 02:15:01.239
Twin Peaks Firewalk with Me.

3145
02:15:01.479 --> 02:15:02.399
Just saw it for the first time.

3146
02:15:02.720 --> 02:15:04.520
He says the movie is haunting to say the least,

3147
02:15:04.600 --> 02:15:08.000
and would love your perspective on it. Number two, The Majestic,

3148
02:15:08.760 --> 02:15:11.880
says my favorite Jim Carrey film everyone seems to forget about.

3149
02:15:12.399 --> 02:15:13.840
I could see that I've not seen it. You haven't

3150
02:15:13.840 --> 02:15:16.239
seen The Jestic. It's actually it's a solid flick. It

3151
02:15:16.359 --> 02:15:18.600
is like three hours long, but it's a solid flick.

3152
02:15:19.159 --> 02:15:21.640
His third one is The Mighty from nineteen ninety eight.

3153
02:15:21.760 --> 02:15:23.880
Oh wow, the film meditation of Freak the Mighty.

3154
02:15:24.079 --> 02:15:25.199
Oh, I've never seen it. Yeah.

3155
02:15:25.279 --> 02:15:27.159
It was a book that I that our fifth grade

3156
02:15:27.159 --> 02:15:29.279
teacher read to us, and I sought the movie out,

3157
02:15:29.319 --> 02:15:31.199
which I believe as Sharon Stone. It's a good movie.

3158
02:15:31.239 --> 02:15:33.439
It's got one of the Culkins in it. It's not McCauley,

3159
02:15:33.520 --> 02:15:33.880
but it's.

3160
02:15:33.920 --> 02:15:37.439
One of the other Oneselkin, Maggotty and the Sulkins. And

3161
02:15:37.600 --> 02:15:40.359
number four a film I've been a massive fan of

3162
02:15:40.439 --> 02:15:42.199
for a very long time. Although I feel like when

3163
02:15:42.239 --> 02:15:44.760
we rewatched it we didn't like it as much Buffy

3164
02:15:44.880 --> 02:15:46.680
the Vampire Slayer from nineteen ninety two.

3165
02:15:46.840 --> 02:15:49.399
I have been kicking around. It didn't hold up the

3166
02:15:49.439 --> 02:15:51.359
best when we revisit it, but it's still pretty fun.

3167
02:15:51.399 --> 02:15:53.039
And I mean, and also it's got the great Paul

3168
02:15:53.079 --> 02:15:56.000
Rubins Rugger Howard, who we lost recently as well too,

3169
02:15:56.119 --> 02:15:57.840
So I mean, yeah, that might be a one to

3170
02:15:57.960 --> 02:15:59.000
throw on the docket for sure.

3171
02:15:59.079 --> 02:16:01.199
I mean, I love that movie as a kid.

3172
02:16:01.239 --> 02:16:01.800
I always did it.

3173
02:16:01.960 --> 02:16:05.039
It's nineties as hell. And uh oh, and you mentioned

3174
02:16:05.039 --> 02:16:08.479
for Paul Rubin alone. Yeah, so absolutely, And his last

3175
02:16:08.520 --> 02:16:12.000
note is and this is an interesting thought. And I'd

3176
02:16:12.159 --> 02:16:14.840
kill to get an episode on any of Enrique's films

3177
02:16:14.880 --> 02:16:19.760
as well, specifically Babysitter, Massacre or Depression the movie. I

3178
02:16:20.000 --> 02:16:23.000
I mean, I'm not opposed to it because I know

3179
02:16:23.760 --> 02:16:26.760
stuff about them, but that would be something that Dave

3180
02:16:26.800 --> 02:16:28.600
would have to pull together to ask figure out a

3181
02:16:28.640 --> 02:16:31.479
million questions about it. Yeah, I mean, I I wouldn't

3182
02:16:31.520 --> 02:16:34.079
be against it, that's honestly. I'll put that to Dave

3183
02:16:34.200 --> 02:16:35.840
like I put any kick I was on.

3184
02:16:36.520 --> 02:16:38.360
I was on most of those sets. There's only a

3185
02:16:38.440 --> 02:16:41.280
few that I Wasn't you weren't on not on depression,

3186
02:16:41.440 --> 02:16:43.159
on Babysit. Oh you were on you were I think

3187
02:16:43.280 --> 02:16:44.520
that the finale Babysitter.

3188
02:16:44.600 --> 02:16:47.719
More so, you were on set for a good sixty percent.

3189
02:16:47.920 --> 02:16:51.479
Maybe maybe I was baby a smidgemore, maybe smidge less.

3190
02:16:51.319 --> 02:16:52.879
Because I think only the pickup scenes are the ones

3191
02:16:52.920 --> 02:16:54.000
that I don't recall, and.

3192
02:16:54.040 --> 02:16:55.879
You were on a couple of those two. Yeah, because

3193
02:16:55.959 --> 02:16:57.559
you ended up playing a role in one.

3194
02:16:57.680 --> 02:17:00.319
I did I did I died in Babysitter. Yeah, now

3195
02:17:00.399 --> 02:17:01.120
you did, so.

3196
02:17:01.319 --> 02:17:03.200
I mean, I'd be open to it if you, if you,

3197
02:17:03.360 --> 02:17:04.680
but you would have to that'd be a lot of

3198
02:17:04.719 --> 02:17:05.280
work on your end.

3199
02:17:05.319 --> 02:17:07.719
Probably we would. If we did that, it would probably

3200
02:17:07.760 --> 02:17:08.959
be like a bonus episode.

3201
02:17:09.479 --> 02:17:12.840
No, I can't fit more podcasts.

3202
02:17:12.879 --> 02:17:14.600
No, I mean when I when I when I'm saying

3203
02:17:14.639 --> 02:17:16.440
that is, I don't know if it would necessarily fit

3204
02:17:16.559 --> 02:17:19.959
there the rundown format, But we could absolutely do something.

3205
02:17:19.959 --> 02:17:21.840
I mean, I mean, if you ran down the movie,

3206
02:17:21.840 --> 02:17:23.239
I mean you just have to come up with questions.

3207
02:17:23.360 --> 02:17:25.760
I mean, I won't shut up. If you, it would

3208
02:17:25.760 --> 02:17:26.319
be it would be.

3209
02:17:26.319 --> 02:17:29.959
A special kind of shoe. Obviously, this is your life.

3210
02:17:29.959 --> 02:17:32.920
A very special episode of do You Even? Movie? But

3211
02:17:33.000 --> 02:17:35.920
I mean there's there's definitely, especially with the pressure in

3212
02:17:35.920 --> 02:17:38.520
the movie in particular, so much to say, yeah, I

3213
02:17:38.719 --> 02:17:41.120
would be happy to cover Babysitter like when the sequels

3214
02:17:41.159 --> 02:17:42.760
are ready to come out, because we were filming on

3215
02:17:42.799 --> 02:17:46.000
Babysitter two last weekend. Yeah yeah, not even that long ago.

3216
02:17:46.040 --> 02:17:47.159
I mean it was like five days ago.

3217
02:17:47.280 --> 02:17:47.399
Yep.

3218
02:17:47.440 --> 02:17:49.840
We're getting really close. We are, indeed so and then uh,

3219
02:17:49.959 --> 02:17:52.639
he concludes with looking forward to whatever you guys have

3220
02:17:52.760 --> 02:17:56.639
planned next Cramer. Oh boy, well, Kramer, thank you seriously

3221
02:17:56.719 --> 02:17:59.399
for writing in. And we're so glad that the podcast

3222
02:17:59.440 --> 02:18:02.200
could bring you joy because that's like, that really is

3223
02:18:02.200 --> 02:18:04.079
the name of the game. And I'm very thankful for

3224
02:18:04.079 --> 02:18:06.680
the people who've written in and and said the positive

3225
02:18:06.719 --> 02:18:09.239
things that the show has brought them, because you know,

3226
02:18:09.360 --> 02:18:11.600
some weeks, it's hard to pull a show together. Some weeks, Yeah,

3227
02:18:12.319 --> 02:18:13.879
like if I were to like make up like a

3228
02:18:14.200 --> 02:18:16.239
like a thought experiment, Like there are some weeks where

3229
02:18:16.719 --> 02:18:19.600
you know, you're you know, you're working like nine consecutive

3230
02:18:19.680 --> 02:18:21.079
days in a row, like fifteen hours a day, and

3231
02:18:21.120 --> 02:18:23.079
then you wake up with a severely infected ear.

3232
02:18:23.239 --> 02:18:26.360
Yeah, and you're I'm so happy that hasn't happened.

3233
02:18:26.559 --> 02:18:27.079
No, thank god.

3234
02:18:27.120 --> 02:18:27.600
I yeah.

3235
02:18:27.719 --> 02:18:27.879
Yeah.

3236
02:18:28.239 --> 02:18:30.479
Also shout out to Kramer. Uh he gave us a

3237
02:18:30.520 --> 02:18:32.920
five star review, probably a couple months back or so.

3238
02:18:33.079 --> 02:18:33.360
Thank you.

3239
02:18:33.520 --> 02:18:35.200
That rivaled that one star we got recently.

3240
02:18:35.799 --> 02:18:37.879
That guy, that guy can, in the words of a

3241
02:18:37.920 --> 02:18:39.719
great poet, you can suck a dick up till he hiccups.

3242
02:18:39.799 --> 02:18:40.200
I agree.

3243
02:18:40.360 --> 02:18:42.840
So but but yeah, thank you very much, Kramer. And

3244
02:18:43.120 --> 02:18:45.159
we'll take all of those into consideration. I mean, at

3245
02:18:45.280 --> 02:18:47.840
least a couple of them are are definitely a win. Yeah,

3246
02:18:47.879 --> 02:18:49.479
I mean I love Buffy. I would love to talk

3247
02:18:49.520 --> 02:18:53.319
about it. Sometimes Buffy be so nineties. Yeah, but uh yeah,

3248
02:18:53.399 --> 02:18:54.680
thank you. And if you guys want to write in,

3249
02:18:54.799 --> 02:18:56.760
it's do You Even movie pod at gmail dot com

3250
02:18:56.879 --> 02:18:59.159
or head to do youueven movie dot com for all

3251
02:18:59.200 --> 02:19:01.840
the information. Yes, sir, If you're watching us right now

3252
02:19:01.959 --> 02:19:04.280
on YouTube, please make sure you're subscribed. Leave a like

3253
02:19:04.360 --> 02:19:06.600
on the video. It does help. If you're listening to

3254
02:19:06.680 --> 02:19:10.879
us on the podcast, make sure you whatever it is subscribed,

3255
02:19:11.040 --> 02:19:12.840
make sure you are subscribed. And if you could leave

3256
02:19:12.879 --> 02:19:15.559
us a five star rating on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, yes,

3257
02:19:15.639 --> 02:19:17.239
it really does help. And you can also leave a

3258
02:19:17.319 --> 02:19:20.360
comment on Spotify. I read all of them. I share

3259
02:19:20.360 --> 02:19:22.360
them with Dave if they're prudent. Otherwise I respond to

3260
02:19:22.440 --> 02:19:25.680
them directly in Spotify. So really do appreciate it.

3261
02:19:25.680 --> 02:19:27.360
And I read the YouTube comments and I'll respond to

3262
02:19:27.399 --> 02:19:28.680
them too, as long as they're not rude.

3263
02:19:29.280 --> 02:19:30.120
They're mostly fine.

3264
02:19:30.440 --> 02:19:32.319
They're pretty good. Would you like to know what we

3265
02:19:32.440 --> 02:19:34.360
are talking about next week as we bring May they

3266
02:19:34.440 --> 02:19:38.120
Rest in Peace to a close. Yeah, so we are

3267
02:19:38.239 --> 02:19:40.520
going to do a first time for you. Oh, one

3268
02:19:40.559 --> 02:19:43.559
of my personal favorites of the late great Val Kilmer,

3269
02:19:43.559 --> 02:19:44.680
who we lost very recently.

3270
02:19:44.760 --> 02:19:46.719
Oh oh yayy. We were talking about this earlier.

3271
02:19:47.040 --> 02:19:51.600
Twenty ten's mcgruber with Will Forte. Yeah, twenty ten with

3272
02:19:51.840 --> 02:19:55.399
Will Forte, Val Kilmer. I'm blanking on her name. The

3273
02:19:55.559 --> 02:19:58.440
Chicken Bridesmaids. Why can I not hateful Chris Wig? Thank you,

3274
02:19:58.600 --> 02:20:02.280
Kristen Wigg. One of my favorite comedies still holds up.

3275
02:20:02.319 --> 02:20:06.319
It's so gratuitous, it's so raunchy, it's so funny, and

3276
02:20:06.440 --> 02:20:08.239
Val Kilmer is great in it because he not only

3277
02:20:08.319 --> 02:20:10.280
gets to play the villain, but he's a comedic relief

3278
02:20:10.360 --> 02:20:10.719
villain too.

3279
02:20:11.000 --> 02:20:12.959
Okay, so it's a lot. I mean, it is a comedy.

3280
02:20:13.120 --> 02:20:15.280
Oh yeah, I mean, but I mean it's it's absolutely insane.

3281
02:20:15.319 --> 02:20:17.799
So if you haven't seen mcgroover, currently rentable on Prime

3282
02:20:17.879 --> 02:20:22.000
and fan Dango, not readily streaming anywhere unfortunately, no, even

3283
02:20:22.000 --> 02:20:23.799
though the series is on it. Oh there was a

3284
02:20:24.000 --> 02:20:27.600
Groover series Peacock didn't original, Oh yeah, which I haven't watched.

3285
02:20:27.639 --> 02:20:29.440
I haven't watched yet because I completely forgot about it.

3286
02:20:29.479 --> 02:20:30.840
But wow, it was not a success.

3287
02:20:30.959 --> 02:20:31.399
No, it was not.

3288
02:20:31.959 --> 02:20:34.000
I love the Groover though, so I cannot wait to

3289
02:20:34.040 --> 02:20:35.280
show it to you. But yeah, that is what we're

3290
02:20:35.319 --> 02:20:37.200
going to be talking about next week. And I will

3291
02:20:37.280 --> 02:20:39.040
say we did have a couple of people ask when

3292
02:20:39.040 --> 02:20:41.639
we were going to do Gene Hackman. He was originally

3293
02:20:41.719 --> 02:20:44.799
planned to be included in this lineup. Unfortunately, there's just

3294
02:20:44.879 --> 02:20:46.399
too many damn good movies.

3295
02:20:46.239 --> 02:20:48.879
In it at one and we'll end up picking them later.

3296
02:20:49.000 --> 02:20:49.959
And yeah, he'll end up.

3297
02:20:49.879 --> 02:20:51.559
On He may even be a whole month, who knows.

3298
02:20:51.799 --> 02:20:54.600
Yeah, it could be. Yeah, there's no shortage of preaching hacks.

3299
02:20:54.639 --> 02:20:56.200
There is not so but yeah, but that is going

3300
02:20:56.280 --> 02:20:58.000
to do it for us here tonight.

3301
02:20:58.920 --> 02:20:59.680
Is it is?

3302
02:21:00.079 --> 02:21:01.040
Okay? Fair enough?

3303
02:21:01.159 --> 02:21:03.399
Well, thank you guys so much for joining us on

3304
02:21:03.520 --> 02:21:07.000
due the movie. Really do appreciate it, and uh, I

3305
02:21:07.079 --> 02:21:10.079
guess all that's left to say is we will see

3306
02:21:10.159 --> 02:21:10.959
you now.

3307
02:21:11.120 --> 02:21:14.680
The problem problem say they're all gonna laugh at you.

3308
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I hope so