Feb. 18, 2025

Do You Even Movie? | Blue Ruin (2013) The Brutality of Revenge

Do You Even Movie? | Blue Ruin (2013) The Brutality of Revenge

That’s what bullets do.” This week, Henrique and David take a violent detour into one of the most realistic revenge thrillers ever put to film—Blue Ruin (2013). When a quiet drifter returns to his childhood home seeking vengeance, his actions spiral...

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That’s what bullets do.”

This week, Henrique and David take a violent detour into one of the most realistic revenge thrillers ever put to film—Blue Ruin (2013). When a quiet drifter returns to his childhood home seeking vengeance, his actions spiral into a brutal fight to protect his estranged family. But what makes this film’s take on revenge so raw and unforgettable?


In This Episode:

🎬 Blue Ruin – A deep dive into Jeremy Saulnier’s indie masterpiece 🔪 Is this Macon Blair’s greatest performance? 💥 How does the film’s stark realism elevate its violence? 📽️ Where does Blue Ruin fit in Saulnier’s impressive filmography?


Plus:
❤️ Full reviews of Heart Eyes & Love Hurts 🍿 Can horror bring audiences back to theaters? ⚔️ Our picks for the most underrated revenge movies!


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I apologize for the mystery. You're not any trouble. I

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just thought you should be somewhere safe when you found

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out everything's fine. You'll be fine.

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Two, three, four.

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It's an awful thing he did to them. Three if

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I don't mean to scare you, I'm just gonna hold

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you here for a little.

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While and like you breathed.

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In a world where podcasts reign supreme. Two friends dare

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to ask?

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Do you even?

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Movie?

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Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David Denier.

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Spoiler alert, So David, so, hen, how's the Lonely Hearts Club?

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Lonely and heartful? What does that mean?

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I don't even know.

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That's good.

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That's good.

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It's best that it be ambiguous.

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Ambiguous are empty at this point?

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Well, that got fucking dark. Yeah you're welcome. Yeah, great job, great,

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good way to go with the movie Tonight though, well,

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I mean Tonight's movie is a story about true love

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and where it'll take you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, that's it. I mean, it is, it is,

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so it is. But yeah, but before we talk about that, geez,

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we just saw love hurts, Yes, we did, which you know,

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I mean, we're recording this right before actual Valentine's Day. Yeah,

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and uh yeah, there were a lot of couples at

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the theater in line there was, and none of them

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for Companion. It looked like, yeah, they were all going

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to Companion. Yeah, a lot of really young folks.

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Which I think honestly that I think we've seen every

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single Valentine's Day available in theaters now because we've seen Companion,

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Hard Eyes and Love Hurts.

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Yeah. I think you're right. Yeah, yeah. So as far

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as Love Hurts goes action comedy, absolutely in theory, romance

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is somewhat. Yes.

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Uh I. My biggest issue with Love Hurts was it

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the title. The title made sense, but the romance aspect

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of it did not. It didn't hit I would say,

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oh yeah, I didn't think.

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So, Oh hateful Dave.

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You've said the same thing in the car, what are

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you talk about?

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Well, no, my problem with Love Hurts and I hate

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being harsh, but the whole film came off as really

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really half baked, unbalanced. Well I mean totally exactly, like

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what happens when something's half baked, Like some of it's

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all mushy and still whatever, and then the other parts

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splengy and nice. Yeah, it didn't seem like it was

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very comfortable being a comedy or an action movie and

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infinitely uncomfortable being a romance story. Entirely zero chemistry between

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the lead and his romantic interest, although it's not like

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they had a chance. They were like the room together

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like three times. And yeah, there's not a lot going

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on there.

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I mean, it's basically that the classic story of you

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don't know who you're messing with again, but at the

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same time, like it's it's a story we've seen a

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thousand times before.

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Well, but but this version is a little different. Like

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he's not hiding because he's a former hit man. Yeah,

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but he's not like hiding from the people he used

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to work with. They know that he's out. Yeah, they

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let him, they leave or whatever his life. Yeah, but uh,

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he gets dragged back in because the woman he loves

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was he was ordered to kill her. Yeah, and although

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I guess they weren't.

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Dating, they weren't dating. There was just ever in love

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with really any hints of romance. It was basically that

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he let her go spoiler alert, he let her go.

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Oh that's like we already we know that pretty much

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immediately he let her go.

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I mean, you really can't spoil the movie except for

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like the one death that actually affected us.

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it being kind of half baked, Like it's kind of

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like you ever listen to interviews where Jackie Chan says,

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like what movies he says no to? It's very much

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the kind of movie Jackie Chan would say no to. Yeah,

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Jackie Chan often says like, I don't want movies that

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are overly violent. I don't want movies that are overly

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you know, like they're overly violent, too much murder or whatever,

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too much base.

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I think he says, for the most part, like murder

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for murder's sake, like there's no there, like it's just

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basically just up a body count.

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for the most part, if anybody dies, it's a big

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deal in a Jackie Chan movie. Aside from like that

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movie where he played the villain or whatever, those are

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very different. We're talking for The Foreigner, which I liked

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The Foreigner. It was good, it was dark, it was

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cool seeing him play a villain, but he was a

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but he was also like a for lack of a

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better term of righteous villain. Yeah, he had been horribly wronged.

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His daughter I believe had been killed. Yeah, and he

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was basically on a war path for vengeance. Yeah. That

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was self destructive on purpose. Yeah, and he knew it.

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And it's not a It wasn't a surprise to the audience.

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No, And it really wasn't an action film either. Had

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action sequences.

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Yeah no, no, I mean it has a few stunt scenes there.

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But with Love hurts. I wanted to like it a ton,

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but it felt like the components they had were sparks.

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They were just like, we want what's his name of

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the actor. They wanted him to star in an action movie,

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and they wanted him to be a badass. And then

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and they got a well known stunt fight coordinator to

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be the director for his feature film debut, guy by

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the name of Jonathan I don't know. But so you

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have Ti Kwang and he's this kind of dorky average guy,

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which he's really great at playing. I mean, I mean,

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I mean he this is like the this is the

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worst thing we're gonna get from everything everywhere, all at

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once being a hit. Yeah, and I mean that with

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love because everything everywhere at once was amazing, and it

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showed what an incredible actor he was. It showed how

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endearing he could be and what rain she could have.

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But then you watch love Hurts, and I guess the

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biggest problem, if I had to really dig into my psyche,

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would be the love interest is very unlikable because the

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whole concept is that she was allowed to not get assassinated,

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and then what does she do? She comes back a

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while later and shows up in his life. Is like,

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I can't keep hiding and you shouldn't hide from your

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brother either, money and she wants to money. Although there's

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more to it, well kind of, but but what ends

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up happening is she shows up in his life and

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literally starts, and it starts just ruining people's lives unrelated.

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There's an immense amount of very being degrees of collateral damage.

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Some are we're very out of place in a comedy.

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It was one of those movies where you you have

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amazing action sequences. I mean, some of those fights are

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are incredible and insanely brutal, but then your murder count

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for like actual like main characters is like two.

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Yeah, and only the characters that are nice yeah, like

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only the characters that literally did nothing.

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Our villain spoilers technically doesn't get murdered on screen at least.

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Yeah. Well, from the way the first fight scene, when

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I assumed just nobody was gonna get murdered, that was

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gonna be one of those, which is very Jackie Chan

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asked that, like, you just don't kill anybody. But then

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so then this whole thing where his love interest is

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like I want the real you to come out or whatever,

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and then she's so happy when he starts.

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Like becoming vicious, well because he.

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Kills like Henchman, yeah toward the end, and she's like

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so happy, and I'm all thinking, is like I thought

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that our whole his whole character development was that that

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was bad. Yeah, and he hated that, but now it's like,

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I'm so glad you're back, Like that's who I needed,

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the vicious murderer. She Yeah, she was, cause she came

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off really unlikable because all she did was show up

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at wreck everything.

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No, I agree. I think my biggest issue with it

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was it just it didn't feel like it really ever

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gave us anything that we didn't get in like the

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first ten minutes.

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Well, and if they wanted to to get that across

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in a way that was a little bit more entertaining. Yeah,

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they could have had it be one sided, like he's

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really in love with her and she's callous. That could

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have been a good like growth moment if it was like,

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you know, he realizes, like you don't care about me

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very much, do you? But no, it's supposed to be

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a love story. They're supposed to actually be in love. Yeah,

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And all I could think the whole movie was, man,

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his life was so great. He like I remember about

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halfway through the film when is because his brother turns

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out his brother again not a big spoiler. His brother

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is the person who's like, uh running yeah, knuckles, he's

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running the organization he used to work at. Once you

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start to see what's going on and all this, my

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first thought was, really, like, man, this like our main character.

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He would have been. He would have had such a good

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life if you just murdered that woman probably and apparently

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he had killed dozens before as a hitman. Well.

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That was the thing too, was you had so many

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different main villains to stack up to your actual top dog,

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and it was just and I didn't have an issue

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with that in regards of just like learning who those

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people were. But it was just like they amounted to nothing.

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They were just they were just names for.

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The most part. I mean we had a few that

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got some development, but that.

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Everybody was against everybody, like.

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Yeah, it wasn't a terrible movie. Yeah it was a

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fun time.

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Eighty eighty two eighty three minutes. You mean you're you're

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in and out for one.

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Yeah, but I could, I could definitely understand why audiences

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were not coming to see Love Hurts in the theater.

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They were there to see companions like you.

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And I said, it's a movie where you can definitely

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tell studio involvement heavily, because I don't think an eighty

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three minute movie was the original idea.

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I mean, have been Mitos in.

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Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back

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to Do You Even?

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Movie.

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The other thing was that there was a lot of

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moments that were predicated by voiceover, which made me feel

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like maybe the movie was a big mess and they

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were trying to make it make sense.

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Yeah, and not just one voiceover, multiple character voiceovers.

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It was just him and the woman.

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There was Knuckles had a couple two.

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Oh okay, no, no, you're right right, he did. Yeah,

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but they were kind of he was like in a

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room with somebody. It didn't feel quite as like as

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opposed to like the leading man and the leading lady

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were like laying in bed, and it's just kind of

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it felt more like a voice over as opposed to

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like a monologue.

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Genuinely, I would have probably probably enjoyed it just a

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little bit more if the first ten minutes would have

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been him telling the story that we kind of saw

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spread throughout the movie. I think if we would have

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been like, you know, I like I used to do

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this blah blah blah blah, and like go through all

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his run ins and everything like that, and then it's

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just like, but now I live this quiet life.

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Well, I think that what they were going for was

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the like you find out as we go and I don't.

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I think because he's so likable and because he seemed

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to be a legitimately changed person, because that's the other thing.

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It wasn't like those other you don't know you're messing

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with movies where it's like, oh, the like the badness

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was always still in me and it always wanted to

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get out. Yeah, Like there was never a moment when

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he was working as a mild manner real estate agent

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where like he like resisted the urge to like punch

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somebody or like or like tackled somebody and like or

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or got even got or even raised his voice.

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Shit, I just realized something. The big death that we've

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already that we talked about, we're not gonna spoil. But

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the other one is the the the realtor dude.

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Yeah, he's barely in the movie at all, and all

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he does is try to help. Yeah, and not only

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try to help, he tries to help like his number

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one competitor. So he's literally like not a jerk at all.

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Well and not only that though, like.

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And I'm not even sent sure he was a property brother.

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And he dies like really violently.

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Yeah no, he absolutely does. We actually see you inside

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his head.

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Yeah yeah, he gets his brains blown out. Meanwhile, like

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the killers who are like, you know, just NonStop killers,

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get like a lot of love. I don't know, maybe Scott,

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it totally was a property brother. I'm not familiar with.

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Property brothers are a reality show. It's it's two twin

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brothers that sell realty. Drew Scott that was one of them.

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Oh, that's funny.

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Yeah, but since we you know, love hurts what it's fine.

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But we could also talk about the movie that we

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really did enjoy this past weekend.

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Oh oh, I think you're saying Happiness.

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I haven't watched it in a while.

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Well, Valentine's Day is right around the corner. I gotta

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get that criteria Blue Rays at that point. Yeah, you do. No,

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we did four K. I think we did check out

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Hard Eyes, which was a really fun Valentine's Day horror movie.

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Done by Josh Rubens, who, if you're not familiar with

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the name, he is the man who gave us so far.

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Scare Me and Where Wolves Within?

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Yes, two very good movies in my opinion. Scare Me

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was is his best film to this day.

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It's kind of neck and neck with me for Where

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Was Within? Because Where Was Within? That twist, like I

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texted you when it happened. Yea, I know, it's that's

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so good.

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No, it was great. It's just Scare Me. There was

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something about the honest simplicity.

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Of telling stories.

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It's literally a guy and a girl in a cabin

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and they're both writers, yeah, who are vaguely competitive with

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each other. Yeah, And they end up just trying to

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scare each other by telling them a story that they're developing,

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which I thought was the friggin' coolest concept and and

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I loved it. I absolutely adored it. But nothing against

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Werewolves Within or Hard Eyes. They were both really fun.

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Hard Eyes. I was very surprised to find myself feeling

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like was very influenced by early two thousands and slasher movies. Yeah,

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there's no there's no doubt. Yeah, and not just Valentine,

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which is kind of the obvious comparison, but it was

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similar to Valentine in a lot of ways, but but

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also it was very It reminded me a lot of

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like Black X Meus. It reminded me of Sorority Row, Yeah,

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where it had this very slick look to it, which

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is nothing wrong with that. The characters were all a

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little caddy, like a little extra caddy, and like to

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where it was like, if you dialed it a little

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bit more, it would be unbelievable. But they always reeled

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it in just in time, just when you thought like, oh,

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this person's a caricature of a person, and then they would

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do something and be like, Okay, no, I believe that

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they're real aside from like a few of the sillier

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slasher victims, but I mean a lot of slasher victims

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are going to be relatively one dimensional.

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And going to Hard Eyes. The overall design of the

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Hard Eyes killer I thought was really cool. I thought,

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just creating that character, creating that slasher film, and then

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we live in this slasher film now where this character

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has been killing people for years now, yes on Valentine's Day.

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I just I love the concept of it. But I

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think what I really liked about Hard Eyes most was,

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you know, we go from Love Hurts that had very

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bad chemistry. Hard Eyes had really good chemistry between the

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two leads.

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Yeah, they know they had. They had great chemistry to

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the point where it almost pissed you off. Yeah, Like

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they were just they were so likable. And that's kind

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of the thing that made me love it even more,

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is it? It kind of in a twisted way, works

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as a rom com y. It definitely works as a

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slasher movie, and it works as kind of a comedy

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as well. It works as all three simultaneously, and the

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only one that loses out the most is rom Com,

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which makes sense because rom Com doesn't merge very well

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with horror.

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And I'm seen a bunch of people commenting that I

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had too much rom comment it for them.

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I without spoiling. Yeah, it had some very ballsy choices.

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Yeah that I loved. It had moves where it did

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not give you what you what horror fans would expect,

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which I think is what they deserve is to not

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be given exactly what they're always expecting.

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Again and again, I think the key too was they

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gave us a lot of red herrings, which kept us

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wanting to guess who the killer was throughout the movie.

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Yeah, but the red herrings even were a little winky.

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They were winky. They were winky.

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But at the same time, I didn't call the movie

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like like, I didn't call who the.

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Killer was until probably about like twenty minutes. Well, they

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did that thing where they left you plenty of suspicion,

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but then they made it more complex in order to

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make it pay off better, which I thought was great.

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Well, and also I love the tropes that the romantic

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comedy tropes that they do, like the the the running

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to the train station, airport at airport. Oh yeah, that

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whole fake out was fantastic. Yeah, so no hard Eyes

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was probably one of my top three of the year

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so far, even though we're only in February.

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I was just saying, so, what are your other three,

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because we've only seen like six movies for the handing

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to Flight Risk. Flight Risk was so much fun. Yeah,

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Companion bar none though, top Valentine's Day movie, and it

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will be in the box office as well. I mean

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it already is pretty much but Hard Eyes a ton

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of fun and I would love to see it do better.

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It's right now not doing great. Maybe maybe it'll up

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swing during Valentine's Day, who knows. But it's funny though,

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because you could say, like, well, it's not gonna up

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swing a Valentine's Day because you know what, you know,

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it's such a guy movie. I mean, it's all slasher,

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bloody and stuff. It's like, no, no, the girls want

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to take their guys to see the movie about the

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sex robot murdering everybody. You see what I mean. It's

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kind of funny.

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I'm just happy that we have the holiday like horror

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in two of them in theaters this year. Basically, Yeah,

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we haven't had that in a while.

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Yeah, we really have, especially on Valentine' Day. Well, I

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feel like it's been tried, and I mean even my

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Bloody Valentine. I mean that was a long time ago.

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Then the remake did not pull big numbers. I don't

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think it might have might have.

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I think the three D really killed it, actually.

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I mean I saw it in three D and n

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D opening night. Yeah, now I'm curious, but uh, my

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point is really, my main point is I would like

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it to do well because, and this is something a

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lot of my friends, especially my horror fan friends, don't

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want to hear. Slasher movies don't do well in the

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box I know, and haven't for for quite a while

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unless it's literally Halloween or pretty much just Halloween Halloween.

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I mean it's it's a big pull for that name obviously.

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Yeah.

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No, no, that doesn't mean horror movies haven't been pulling.

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I mean a lot of what Blumhouse has come up with,

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especially now what Neon has come up with. But like

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the biggest slasher hit we've had in a while that

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wasn't an immediate remake or whatever was what was that movie?

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The one where we followed the killer the whole time. Oh,

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violent nature, violent nature in a violent nature. It did

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pretty well I liked it. It was fine. It was a

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fun one. It wasn't it was thought.

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Out really well, it was fine.

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I didn't love the ending. Yeah, but but that being said,

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man salty Dave is here.

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I really wanted to like in a violent nature, but

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I was I got bored after a bit.

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There were parts that were kind of boring, and I mean,

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for me, you know, it gets a little harsh watching

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people die horribly. Oh yeah, My Bloody Valentine three D

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was a huge hit. I thought one hundred million dollars

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against a fourteen million dollar budget. I thought it was big, good, good, Well,

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and yet it didn't get a sequel, which is a

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real change. Yeah why not?

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Oh yeah, yeah, well you know the story with the

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ending of My Blood Valentine knowing you oh, there were

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five different ending shot and they didn't tell the actors

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which one they were going to use, so they didn't

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know who the killer was gonna be.

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Well, I mean it's kind of like how Scream. They

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didn't release the last three pages till like the last

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possible second. Yeah.

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Well that's because the fucking script got leaked so much.

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Yeah, well, and scripts were getting that was the the

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internet was fresh yep. So it was like the Usenet groups, yep,

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use net.

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Do you even movie? Will be right back, welcome back

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to do you even movie?

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No. So I mean, unfortunately, like slasher movies just haven't

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been able to really kick Now, then you could say,

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like what about Terrifier three and Terrifier two, Sure, but

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those are like circumstances well they're they're outliers. And but

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here's the problem with that, and the reason I'm kind

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of like, damn, I wish slasher movies would would get

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that little resurgent boost is when a when a real

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deal hit happens in a genre, that genre tends to

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become the genre, not the movies tend to become really popular. Yeah.

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So with Terrifier two doing really well and then three

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doing really well, it really was like Terrifier two's huge

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success really just made Terrifier three a huge success. It

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didn't cause a boom of slasher movies, like like conjuring

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caused a boom of ghost movies, paramoral activity caused a

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boom of found footage ghost movies, supernatural movies. We haven't

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had that. Like I was hoping when the first Halloween hit,

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I was like, I hope. We just get a friggin

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ton of slasher movies, and we had a few try,

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like like health ast and stuff, and none of them

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really hit big. So that's where it gets really tough,

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because I try to see all of this stuff even

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if I if I wouldn't be that that into it. Yeah,

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And one of the reasons that, like, I'm first in

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line to see the Terrifier movies even though they're not

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exactly my favorite thing, is because I want to see

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more stuff like that in the theater. I want to

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support it. I love it, I love I love what

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it's doing almost as much, if not more than I

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love exactly what it is, which is also fine. So

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I don't know. I would love for Hard Eyes to

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have been a huge hit. And maybe it'll get an upswing,

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maybe it'll get good word of mouth.

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It'll probably I bet it'll probably get a lot more

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attention on bod obviously, but I don't, I don't.

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I just don't know.

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I don't know where theater audiences are right now.

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I mean, it's a tricky time for theater movies anyway. Like,

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I'm really curious if that new Blumhouse movie, what was

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it called The drop, Drop Drop. I'm really curious how

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that'll do. It's not a slasher movie, but it's a

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horror thriller kind of thing. But I think it looks

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like the kind of thing people would really go out

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and see. So I don't know. But but unfortunately, it's

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like with with something like hard Eyes. I'm not hearing

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a ton of people rave about it on my social media.

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I've seen a few, I mean too, just.

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A few, unfortunately, and I'm shocked I'm not seeing more

465
00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:15.640
of especially you know, my friends and stuff.

466
00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:18.400
I've seen a lot of positive reuse hoord on letterbox

467
00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:20.480
at least, so I mean people are definitely seeing it.

468
00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:22.119
But yeah, I think I think it's one of those

469
00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:24.519
movies that the core audience is obviously going to go

470
00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:26.200
see it in theaters. But I think at this point,

471
00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:29.319
I don't know where the audience is for most movie

472
00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:31.039
theaters because I mean, like just for night, when we

473
00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:32.759
went to go see Love Hurts, we were shocked at

474
00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:34.680
how many were they were there to go see Companion.

475
00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:36.400
Yeah, because we were waiting in line at the snack

476
00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:38.319
counter and there was a giant line and as people

477
00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:39.759
were leaving, I was watching where they were going they

478
00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:41.640
were all going right into the eight o'clock or the Yeah,

479
00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:42.720
the eight o'clock companion.

480
00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:43.440
Yeah.

481
00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:46.720
So and that's good. Oh, it's great. I love that. Yeah,

482
00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:49.000
and and and this twenty twenty four was a good

483
00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:51.119
year for horror and yet Immaculate you had the first

484
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:54.119
omen they all did pretty good. I mean there were

485
00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:55.799
there were a ton and then I mean Late Now

486
00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:59.279
with the Devil did really well in theaters. Yeah, long Legs, Maxine,

487
00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:02.000
they were all but and Maximum would be the closest

488
00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:03.640
thing to a slasher movie, but it really wasn't a

489
00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:05.640
slasher movie. But again, but it's also a part three Yeah,

490
00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:08.640
so it also has that also gets tricky with it too.

491
00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:11.519
X would be a good example of a slasher. But

492
00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:13.079
that one I think was the lowest.

493
00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:14.039
Performing of the thing, I think.

494
00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:18.279
Yeah, So it makes me wonder sometimes before we, you know,

495
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:20.559
we get to the topic at hand. It makes me

496
00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:24.880
wonder sometimes if if the issue is horror fans aren't

497
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:27.319
going out to theaters to support, or if the issue

498
00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:29.559
is that there just aren't that many die hard horror

499
00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:32.480
fans to begin with, I mean enough to make a

500
00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:37.559
movie a forty five thousand dollars hit. I mean Abigail. Yeah,

501
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:38.880
you know, should have been a hit.

502
00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:41.000
I think, honestly one of the biggest issues. And I

503
00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:42.839
run into this with my roommate, not to throw shade

504
00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:46.359
to him, but people don't watch movies a lot anymore.

505
00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:48.279
Like I hate saying it that way, but a lot

506
00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:51.240
of people are watching like web based content, influencers and

507
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.839
stuff like that. I'm I'm just telling you, Like it

508
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.240
seems like that is kind of a trend somewhat that

509
00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:56.759
I'm seeing.

510
00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:59.640
But what we had big box office movies.

511
00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:01.680
We did, Yeah, But at the same time, I think,

512
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:04.160
I don't know, I think it just doesn't seem like

513
00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:07.079
the theaters have gone back to what I remember them

514
00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:08.839
as being, or what what you and I used to

515
00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:11.079
see when we would go to like mattineve shows and whatnot,

516
00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:12.799
Like it seemed like there was a decent crowd there

517
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:14.960
on Tuesdays for a while, and we just haven't seen

518
00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:15.519
one in a bit.

519
00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:21.359
So. According to a quick research bit, box office totals

520
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:24.559
in twenty twenty four were eight point five six billion dollars,

521
00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:30.000
down four percent from twenty twenty three. I'm not having

522
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:33.319
an easy time finding like anything else, like like the

523
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:35.799
like a whole list of of them. But I don't

524
00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:38.400
think that that people going to the theaters is down

525
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:41.519
that much. I mean, granted, we're still recovering from COVID,

526
00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:44.799
but I mean, but we were having slasher movies. But

527
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:47.480
I mean, Hellfest was way before COVID, way before COVID,

528
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:49.039
and it just didn't and I thought that was a

529
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:50.160
fucking blast.

530
00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:52.160
But I mean, I do remember our theater for health

531
00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:53.960
Fest seemed pretty packed though too when we went to

532
00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:55.799
see it. So I mean that's the thing, is like,

533
00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:58.519
I feel like it's, you know, the biggest draw for

534
00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:02.759
while we're Marvel movies, and now everybody's burned out. I

535
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:04.839
don't I don't know a single person that is going

536
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:06.799
to see Captain America this Friday.

537
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:09.559
I mean yeah, but I I mean, and it made

538
00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:13.039
it very well bombed yea and health healthest because I

539
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:14.640
don't want to sound like a picking on. It did

540
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:17.599
a respectable eighteen million against a five million dollar budget,

541
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.599
but it likely spent advertising five to ten million on advertising,

542
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:25.359
and that is often a problem you have with those

543
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:28.759
those films. That's why the Blumhouse method of generally often

544
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:32.720
making them very cheap and then promoting them efficiently is

545
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.640
supposed to be like the big you know, the Big Way,

546
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:38.640
But that's kind of my point is like it seems

547
00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:42.279
like for a die hard like slasher horror movie, it's

548
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:45.000
very hard to cross a twenty million dollar box office.

549
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.119
So that's why I'm saying, I wonder if there just

550
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:51.559
aren't enough diehards for that kind of content, because we

551
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:54.200
know what kind of horror is somewhat hot, and last

552
00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:56.640
year it did change a lot, but it didn't it

553
00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:01.640
didn't change towards like a movie like Late Night with

554
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:05.240
the Devil doing forty million. It had Late Night with

555
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.000
the Devil doing like I don't know exactly how much,

556
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.279
but you know, many millions, yeah, against a very low budget,

557
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:12.000
And that's what we're seeing a lot of which I

558
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.519
like that. I like the idea of like cheaper movies,

559
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.559
but plenty of them in the theaters, lots of opportunities.

560
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.160
But I wonder if it's just what I'm really saying,

561
00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:26.039
is I wonder if the studios are in denial that

562
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:28.920
you should make such an you should make an expensive

563
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:31.440
slasher movie and it'll make even more money. It could be.

564
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:33.839
That's kind of what I'm getting at, because there's nothing

565
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.680
wrong with making a movie that fits a niche that

566
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:39.200
an audience will come out and see. But like hard,

567
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:42.839
I is making eight million dollars in its first roughly

568
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:47.039
first week against an eighteen million dollar budget. Yeah, that's rough.

569
00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:50.200
It's rough. That's that's really rough. And I hate to

570
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:52.240
see it because it was a really friggin fun movie.

571
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:54.640
Oh no, yeah, yeah, first week. Sorry, I just saw

572
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:56.680
the release date and I forgot what day of the

573
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:58.039
week it is. When we're reading this.

574
00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:00.400
Well and I think too it goes. That's saying that

575
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.000
we're also seeing a lot of success with the Legacy pictures,

576
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.799
from the Legacy sequels to the new you know breakofs of.

577
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:08.799
Those I mean only for the Last Forever.

578
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:10.519
Yeah, I mean, I know what you're saying, but yeah,

579
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:12.319
that's what I'm saying. Like there's that's where a lot

580
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:14.960
of the audience is going is to those familiar, familiar

581
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:16.680
characters and stories and whatnot.

582
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:19.880
But we're like in the post remake remakes. We're in

583
00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:24.720
the remakes that try a little harder to be appealing

584
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:28.200
to the fans, which I like, Like I love David

585
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:32.079
Gordon Green's Halloweens including ends Fight Me, I don't care.

586
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:33.920
But you and me both I know, I know you do. Yeah,

587
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.720
it's just there's secretly another person in the room. They're listening,

588
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.680
they're watching. But I love those I thought those were

589
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:43.599
super fun. I thought what they tried to do with Exorcists,

590
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:48.160
with the New Exorcists, it was Yeah, I mean I

591
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:49.920
thought what they were trying to do with it was interesting.

592
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.920
I think it just didn't quite have the well but

593
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.759
I but you know, David Gordon Green was clearly very

594
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:01.160
very inspired when he made the first time Halloween. That

595
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:03.519
that he did, I mean, like super inspired, and that

596
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.200
inspiration carried the three movies, even when three had to

597
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.519
change a ton because of COVID and everything. So I

598
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:11.200
don't know. My point is, like I would love to

599
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:14.599
see a slasher movie just clean up at the box office. Yeah,

600
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.640
and and I wouldn't even care. But like if Hard Eyes,

601
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:20.240
just for context, Hard Eyes was awesome, but if it

602
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:21.920
had been made and I'm not saying they could have

603
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.279
made the exact same movie for like four million dollars,

604
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:26.440
but if they made it for four million dollars, it

605
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:28.240
would be on its way to being a hit right now.

606
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.799
And while it was an awesome movie, to look at

607
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:33.200
and had a lot of great moments. There is a

608
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.880
part of me that's like, why did it cost so much? Yeah,

609
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:38.599
And and on the other side, like I also want

610
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.279
to make it very clear, like Josh Ruben is a

611
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:43.640
freaking baller director, and I hope he got a fat

612
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.960
paycheck and didn't take too many points on the on the.

613
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:48.880
Back, especially since the house that he and his wife

614
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:50.920
just bought Paris and those fires before that you moved

615
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:51.400
into it.

616
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:53.240
Oh fuck, I'm so sorry to hear that.

617
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:54.839
Yeah, there's a whole crowdfunting campaign.

618
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:59.119
Man, I didn't know that. Yeah, well damn. Way to

619
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:00.799
keep the positive activity, Dave.

620
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:03.680
But yeah, but my wrap up on that is I

621
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:06.960
really hope that more people do find hard eyes. It's

622
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:12.440
if you are a lover of Valentine, Sorority Row, House

623
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:14.559
of Wax, thirteen Ghosts, Cost Ship, any of those like

624
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:17.720
early two thousands, those are this is exactly that audience.

625
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.839
Well, the problem is a lot of people are just

626
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:23.599
now starting to come around on how fun those movies were,

627
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:28.799
because it was very popular to hate on those movies,

628
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:31.640
very popular. I remember seeing Sorority Row at the Dan

629
00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:35.440
Barry Dollar Saver Rest in Peace and having a blast.

630
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:37.680
I was so mad at myself that I didn't see

631
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.200
it opening weekend because I wanted to support.

632
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:42.240
It opening weekend at the Mayflower when the Mayflower was

633
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:43.000
still open in Troy.

634
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.279
Rest in Peace, Mayflower too, Piece Mayflower?

635
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:58.440
Do you even movie? Will be right back? Welcome back

636
00:30:58.519 --> 00:30:59.960
to Do you Even Move?

637
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.359
So? I mean, yeah, the cinema experience has definitely changed

638
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:10.920
a lot. I don't think that people are disinterested in

639
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:12.680
going to the movies, but I do think that they're

640
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:16.759
They're more interested in the experience, which is why you

641
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:21.279
have Maxine and Long Legs and Terrifyer three being bigger hits.

642
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.599
That's because people are interested in an experience. They're interested

643
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.480
in something that they've never seen before, at least to

644
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:28.000
some extent.

645
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.400
Well, I mean, and some of those retro screenings, like

646
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:33.880
when they did the eighties Summer eighty four this past year,

647
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:36.359
and like Last Starfighter, Nightmare and Elm Street, all those

648
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:37.400
those theaters were packed.

649
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:38.799
Some of them are really packed.

650
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:40.960
Yeah, yeah, so I think, yeah, I think there's just

651
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:44.000
a point to figure out of what do people still

652
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.240
want to see on the big screen and what are

653
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:47.880
they going to just completely skip the big screen four

654
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:49.319
and wait till streaming because.

655
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.519
Yeah, well, and and from there there's also a really

656
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.799
important point, And this is something I was saying back

657
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:58.519
when people were rallying and crying a river against digital

658
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:03.119
projection over thirty millimeter. You probably remember me saying flat out.

659
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:06.960
I was like, but theatrical distribution is going to become

660
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:11.880
so accessible. I was talking, like I was commenting on

661
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.160
and Andrew Scott's podcast, because and Andrew says, one of

662
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.079
my favorite podcasts if you're an audio nerd, really just

663
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:21.039
a nerd in general. His podcast is great releases on Sundays.

664
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:24.319
But I had commented because he was talking about he

665
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:25.880
went to see Terrified three and he had an amazing

666
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.480
time and all this stuff. And I commented and said, like,

667
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:32.359
keep in mind that before digital projection and digital theater

668
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:36.759
projection being common, you needed a minimum of around three

669
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:39.680
thousand dollars to make one film print that could go

670
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.119
around the country. Sometimes way more. You might be able

671
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:43.799
to get the number less, but then you're making hundreds

672
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:46.839
of them. In the olden days, you know, Roger Corman

673
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.200
would make fifteen prints, and he would start some in

674
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.240
la and some in New York and have the meat

675
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.680
in the middle of the country. That was one of

676
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.000
his methods. He had other methods too. Sometimes he would

677
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:58.799
just start in mississipp because he knew he'd break in

678
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:01.440
cash in the drive and then once the cash came

679
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:03.200
and he could make even more prints and he'd expand,

680
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:05.920
and he'd expand, et cetera, et cetera. Well, now I

681
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:10.319
mean we're talking the hard drive isn't even three hundred

682
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:14.079
dollars anymore. No, I mean half the time now their

683
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.440
satellite beaming to a lot of the especially if they're

684
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:18.480
not showing four KLL.

685
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.960
What I went to see the revival screening of Signs

686
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.480
of the Lambs that TCM was putting on. They played

687
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:25.160
it off a DVR.

688
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:26.680
Well, that's that's what I mean. That's why I mean,

689
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:28.799
it's being broadcast over south. That's how they do riff tracks.

690
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:30.720
That's how they do and that's how they can do

691
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.799
live events. To what they do is that it's it's

692
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.160
kind of like how television stations used to work. How

693
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.319
they used to send it over the satellite and they

694
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.519
would just record the satellite stream so that they had

695
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:41.799
the tape in all these places and then they could

696
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:45.119
air the tape later, it's it's very similar to that.

697
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.039
Hey, nothing will ever be as great as that Breakfast

698
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:48.000
Club screening we went to.

699
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:52.279
Oh god, that was like off a DVD off what's

700
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:54.720
it was so rough? Well, I went to a planes, trains,

701
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.079
and automobile show and I want to say twenty fifteen

702
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:59.359
or twenty sixteen, and it did not it was not

703
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:00.000
a remass.

704
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.519
Addition, Hey, nothing will beat that time that we were

705
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:04.319
sitting in a theater that I will not name because

706
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:06.720
they are still in operation today and doing very well.

707
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:08.719
But we went to see a double feature of Halloween

708
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:10.239
and Halloween Too, and I could tell what they were

709
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:13.039
playing because the menu kept recycling and recycling.

710
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.960
I don't even remember. Yeah, oh wait, oh oh that

711
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.840
theater I was under different owners. Yeah it was, but yeah,

712
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:20.599
but I remember that well. I mean, what do you

713
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:22.559
want I remember one time the drive in? They ever

714
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.039
tell you that story? One time when I was I

715
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:27.159
was going to the drive in back when my buddy

716
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:31.320
Bill was the manager at the Dixie Twin, and they

717
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:34.480
were showing they were doing like the classic of the

718
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.199
First Friday of October or Last Friday of October or

719
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:41.880
whatever it was, Halloween Evil. It was Lloween change No,

720
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.000
it was Halloween Friday and Nightmare Elm Street. In the

721
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:48.119
second night was Evil Dead Texas Chainsaw and I want

722
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:48.960
to see the Hills have eyes.

723
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.400
I think he was evil at too. I feel like

724
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:51.719
it was evil.

725
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:53.440
Well. They did it a few times too. This was

726
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.599
the first time and Bill sent me a text. He

727
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:59.519
was like, hey, this is probably like this basical sounds silly,

728
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:01.400
but you have have a copy of Blu Ray of

729
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:03.599
Evil Dead one, right, yeah? And I was like sure doing.

730
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:07.199
He's like, our DCP hasn't arrived yet and you're coming,

731
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:08.559
right And I was like, oh yeah. He's like, could

732
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:10.320
you just bring it in case you go? So I

733
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:13.440
brought my copy. They actually showed they showed my copy

734
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:16.239
on Blu Ray, which, hey, you know, you gotta do

735
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:16.840
what you gotta do.

736
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:19.320
I remember that too, because the screen was doing the

737
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.239
Japanese the credits at the end, and then they had

738
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.239
the like it was all that like at the end

739
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:26.159
of the Blue Ray.

740
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:30.280
It's really really funny. But anyway, so my point just

741
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.360
being that, I mean, I still love the cinema experience.

742
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:36.119
I'm like David who hates it now and and I do.

743
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:38.880
I will say, uh, if you haven't seen Hard Eyes

744
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.199
and you've been putting it off, go see it before

745
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:44.519
it leaves theaters, because it deserves your support. If you

746
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.480
love horror films, and if you love a fun time

747
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:50.559
in the theater, because it And think about the fact

748
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.920
that on this very show where I have how many

749
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:56.000
times talked about how horror comedies just don't work for me,

750
00:35:56.599 --> 00:36:00.880
this one worked pretty damn well. Really, it really so.

751
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:03.239
And that's saying something because, like even Leff Hurts, I

752
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:04.559
was like, this is a little too jokey for how

753
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.519
violent it is. I mean, you know. So Anyway, that

754
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:09.800
was very long when I was gonna say, yeah that

755
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:14.599
our movie Tonight, Dave Yes, Sir, is a film I

756
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:18.079
had not revisited, possibly since I first saw it on

757
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:19.840
Netflix in twenty fourteen.

758
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:21.400
I think I had. The last time I revisited it

759
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.000
was when I bought the Blu rays, and I think

760
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:24.360
that was like about five years ago. I think I

761
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:25.639
bought it during COVID once I.

762
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:26.360
Wish I had bought it.

763
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:27.360
Yeah, that you do.

764
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.239
Well, I have a region free player now, so I'll

765
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:31.159
buy it from Germany.

766
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.280
But our film Tonight is Blue Ruin from twenty thirteen,

767
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:38.000
one hour and thirty minutes, rated R for strong, bloody

768
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:39.360
violence and language.

769
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:41.159
I would say that's fair.

770
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.239
Yeah, I would say so too. I'm synopsis says, a

771
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:47.079
mysterious outsider's quiet life is turned upside down when he

772
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:49.760
returns to his childhood home to carry out an active vengeance.

773
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.119
Proving himself an amateur assassin, he winds up in a

774
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:56.280
brutal fight to protect his estrange family. That's a solid description,

775
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.039
my synopsis says. Upon hearing that the murderer of his

776
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:01.559
parents is being released from prison, dwy Evans returns to

777
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:04.719
his hometown of Virginia to take vengeance, to take vengeance

778
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.199
on him, unaware the retaliation could reach his own family.

779
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:09.400
That's pretty good. It's a little too much.

780
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:09.960
That's fair.

781
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:12.000
I mean, I mean that's constructive criticism.

782
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:14.079
A little too much. Even though the other one has

783
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:15.559
more words than mine.

784
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:17.079
It felt like too much.

785
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:20.880
Taglines include Revenge comes home.

786
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:26.000
The night, the Revenge comes home second. A man with

787
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.159
nothing to lose is a man with nothing to fear.

788
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:29.320
I like that one.

789
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:30.039
That's pretty good.

790
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:33.039
Blue Ruin at This Time is currently available to stream

791
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:37.360
through fowsome Plex, Pluto to B and you can also,

792
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.079
if you're lucky enough, find a old release of it

793
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:42.159
through Anchor Bay on DVD and Blu ray. But it's

794
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:43.000
going to be a bit pricey.

795
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.960
Yeah, And I went ahead and bought a digital copy

796
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.039
for myself here because I want to make sure I

797
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:49.320
have a digital.

798
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:50.920
Through Fandango at home right now. In the US is

799
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:52.239
eight dollars, so I will say it.

800
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.079
Was eight dollars on Amazon as well.

801
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.199
Okay cool. So director and writer and cinematographer on the

802
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.400
film is Jeremy Solner. He gets to start as writer

803
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.360
and director Murder Party in two thousand and seven, goes

804
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.559
on to do Blue Ruin in twenty thirteen, as writer

805
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.480
and director Green Room in twenty fifteen rebel Ridge. He

806
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:09.920
also is a director on The Killer Speaks in twenty thirteen,

807
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:12.840
Hold the Dark, an episode of True Detective in twenty nineteen,

808
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.679
and he also was the director of photography on Tis Autumn,

809
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:18.679
The Search for Jackie Parris Hamilton in two thousand and six,

810
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:22.280
Murder Party, Putty Hill, Septian, you hurt my feelings in

811
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.519
Our Nature Seagirl run I used to be Darker, and

812
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:27.800
Blue Ruin in twenty thirteen was as last as DP.

813
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.079
Well I mean at that point. I mean Blue Ruin

814
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:35.360
was a big point because his first feature, Murder Party,

815
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:38.000
I did an entire episode of cutting deep into horror

816
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.360
over Weekly Spooky on It, which is a great episode.

817
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.280
It is because that's a movie I discovered straight up

818
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.320
on a Friday night at Blockbuster when I lived in

819
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:48.039
Jersey and I had not heard of it at all.

820
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:50.480
I just saw that poster. I took it home, and

821
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:52.000
it killed me.

822
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:53.320
I told you that I didn't like it the first

823
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:53.840
I watched it.

824
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:57.119
Right, Yes, I tried to forget that from I.

825
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.519
Bought the DVD from Foye, took it home, was super excited,

826
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:00.920
put it on, and I was just like, this is

827
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:03.039
not at all what I expected it. It's fine. And

828
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:05.920
then I can't remember what caused me to revisit it

829
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:07.360
a couple of years later, and I was like, I'm

830
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:09.239
stupid and wrong and this is amazing.

831
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:11.079
Well, that's another example. That's a horror comedy that I

832
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:13.000
consider one of my tops. Yeah, of all time, Oh

833
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.679
absolutely so. And murder But Murder Party, released by Magnolia

834
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:20.440
and Magnet Releasing, didn't set the world on fire, but

835
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:23.440
it had incredible word of mouth. It had the reviews

836
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.960
were great. The people who loved it loved it. The

837
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:27.480
people who loved it were obsessed with it.

838
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:30.119
Lock It was on Netflix for like what six years.

839
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:31.519
On and off it Yeah, because it went away and

840
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:31.840
came back.

841
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:32.599
Yeah.

842
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:35.199
I remember showing it to one of my roommates way

843
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:38.239
back in the day and on Halloween, he had gotten

844
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:40.480
home from work he worked at a restaurant. He got

845
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:41.559
home at like that. I was like, dude, you want

846
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:43.079
to watch murder parties? Like, what the hell's murder party?

847
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:44.679
I was like, just hold on. When it was over,

848
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.960
he turned to me, was like, gotta watch that every

849
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:50.480
fucking Halloween. Man. Like he was shocked how how fun

850
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:52.559
it was fun? And it holds up every time I

851
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.639
watch it gets better. Very well made movie. But so

852
00:39:56.320 --> 00:40:01.599
with that film having come out in seven, Sawleer had

853
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:05.119
a lot of trouble, you know, kind of finding his way.

854
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:08.519
I suppose I feel like I remember hearing and you'll

855
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:10.719
you'll probably know this in the trivia that that in

856
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:13.559
a way Blue Ruin was potentially the Swan song. Yeah,

857
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.760
and which I understand because I made I made my

858
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:20.519
Swan song in twenty eleven and then continued, you know,

859
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.400
I'm still making movies to this day, so I respect

860
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:26.440
that feeling though of making a movie that's gonna be

861
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:27.000
your swan song.

862
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:40.039
Absolutely, do You Even movie will be right back, welcome

863
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:41.639
back to Do You Even?

864
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:44.239
Movie?

865
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:51.559
And Blue Ruin not a very funny movie, very well acted,

866
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:56.559
very well paced, very well shot. It was made right

867
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:01.159
when we went from the DSLR digital camera revolution to

868
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.840
having digital cinema cameras. It was shot on the Cannon

869
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:07.440
C one hundred I believe, or maybe it was C

870
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.719
three hundred, doesn't matter, one of the first cameras that

871
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:14.119
was meant to be like a DSLR like a photography camera, yeah,

872
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:17.960
but was meant for video so you could use photography lenses,

873
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.760
which were very affordable, and Soallner did shoot it on

874
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:23.039
photography lenses. I remember because people were shocked. Now great

875
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:26.519
it looked because it was considered shot on lesser equipment,

876
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:29.519
but it got such a huge amount of attention. In

877
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:31.159
part it was because he knew what he was doing

878
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:33.119
to make it look great. It's funny because that was

879
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:35.039
the camera I was considering when I bought my first

880
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:38.199
digital cinema camera, but I went Sony in part because

881
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:40.360
it was cheaper. Makes sense a lot cheaper.

882
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:42.519
Well, I mean, the reason that the movie is effective,

883
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:44.360
and we'll get into this obviously, but the reason the

884
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:46.559
movie is effective is because it is a beautiful movie.

885
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.639
But it's a haunting film, and the imagery is so

886
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.480
beautifully shot, and it's horrible, horrible acts.

887
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:56.039
No, it's and it's very matter of fact. Yeah, it's

888
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:58.639
very realistic. Here we go. Well, and that's the thing.

889
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.639
It's a revenge film that is, in my opinion, like

890
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:05.480
hyper realistic. Yeah, which is scary, and you don't get

891
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.639
a lot of those revenge movies are usually a bit

892
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:12.760
more about satisfaction, although one of the most common tropes

893
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:15.679
there's an old saying, he who seeks revenge should dive

894
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:17.880
dig two graves. I don't know what that's from. Maybe

895
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:19.440
that's from the Bible. I don't even know.

896
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:21.639
I think it's a I've heard it. I'm a lot

897
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:23.400
of Westerns, but I don't know.

898
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:26.880
Well that it might be the Bible. Yeah, a man

899
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:32.360
who seeks revenge Confucius? Honestly, maybe, Well, you know, what,

900
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:36.320
do you have any favorite Confucius? No? My favorite was

901
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.000
he who stands on toilet high on pot TM.

902
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:43.280
What Yeah, pretty solid?

903
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:46.239
Oh yeah, just you got nothing to say.

904
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:48.440
I mean, I was gonna conso, so it is.

905
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:53.400
A proverb up from confused. Well it's attributed to Confucius,

906
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.679
but no one really knows that's fair, but it appears

907
00:42:57.719 --> 00:42:58.519
to be Confucions.

908
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.679
But yeah, I mean that's that's a wrong tie to

909
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:03.719
any vengeance film that's always usually referenced in. And I

910
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.320
think that's one thing that attracted me to Blue Ruin

911
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:08.360
when I when I didn't even know really who Solner was.

912
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:10.000
I mean I didn't even know he had Murder Party

913
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:12.079
because I just didn't even really pay attention that much.

914
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:13.679
You got into Murder Party that late.

915
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:16.440
I got into Murder Party when I still lived at home,

916
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.519
and it was a used DVD that I found at

917
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:22.199
f YE, and it would have had to have been

918
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:24.880
twenty ten, twenty eleven.

919
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:27.960
Wow, Yeah, so right before Blue Rooin.

920
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:31.880
Was because then I don't think, honestly, dude, I don't

921
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:33.639
think I went back to Murder Party till after Blue

922
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:34.679
Ruin now to think about it.

923
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.159
Wow, So yeah, I think I think it took me.

924
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:39.599
A bit, but yeah, it was, uh, but Blue Ruin

925
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:43.360
was just it was a different vengeance tale that i'd

926
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.039
seen ever before. I mean because I had not seen

927
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.320
like a rolling thunder at that point, because that's a

928
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:51.039
great one. Trying to think of some other vengeance movies

929
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:52.920
that have that kind of tone to them, get Carter's

930
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:54.440
one of them, I would say too, But like it's

931
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:57.719
just it is a true blue vengeance.

932
00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:59.360
Tale, a true blue true brueve.

933
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:00.239
Yeah.

934
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.360
Well, and Soalliner they went at and making Blair, who

935
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:06.039
make him Blair? I means were spent. Christ is the

936
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:09.719
launch of his shockingly and I mean this with love, yeah,

937
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:12.719
because he's a great actor, but like a shockingly good

938
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:13.760
so career.

939
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:15.679
He actually so making Blair who plays Dwight Evans in

940
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:17.079
the film. He gets a start in two thousand and

941
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:19.559
five on a film called Gretchen, then does Murder Party

942
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:21.840
in two thousand and seven, appears on an episode of SVU,

943
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.800
and eight side by each and eight You Hurt My

944
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.719
Feelings twenty eleven, The Man from Orlando, Hellbenders in twenty twelve,

945
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.800
then does Blue Ruin, followed by Green Room in twenty fifteen,

946
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:33.840
Gold in twenty sixteen with Matthew McConaughey.

947
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.599
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, And this is when I started

948
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:37.960
to notice. I was like, yeah, I remember one point

949
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:39.159
he walked into a scene and I was like and

950
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.599
I was like, wait, I'm watching a Clon Eastwood movie. Yet.

951
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.280
Then he does I Don't Feel at Home in This

952
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:46.559
World Anymore, which he also directs in twenty seventeen, which

953
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:49.360
is the writer and director on Small Crimes in twenty seventeen,

954
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.920
Into the Who Knows in twenty seventeen, Mustang Island, The

955
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:56.280
Florida Project, Logan Lucky in twenty seventeen, Yes, Yes, Yes,

956
00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:58.760
thunder Road in twenty eighteen, Hold the Dark in twenty eighteen,

957
00:44:58.760 --> 00:44:59.639
which he's a writer on.

958
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:02.280
Oh I didn't know that. That's awesome, Sister.

959
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:04.400
Amy in twenty nineteen, Room one oh four, which he's

960
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.639
writer and director on swamp Thing TV series in twenty nineteen,

961
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.480
I Blame Society in twenty twenty, The Hunt in twenty twenty,

962
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:13.400
I Care a Lot in twenty twenty h than he does,

963
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:16.639
Oppenheimer in twenty twenty three, Yes, Then Toxic Avenger in

964
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:18.519
twenty twenty four, which hasn't been released.

965
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:20.400
In which he's direct He wrote and directed I Believe.

966
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:23.159
And he also appeared in Reservation Dogs, Rent, Free the Thicket,

967
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:24.679
and mow Man.

968
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.880
Yeah I Mean incredible and considering that, like when they

969
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:31.239
made Blue Ruin, he was kind of like, well, I've tried. Yeah,

970
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:33.199
I haven't gotten to do much. And now all of

971
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:36.599
a sudden blowing up in like his late thirties, All

972
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:40.079
of a sudden, he's in Eastwood movies. He's in Christopher

973
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:42.480
Nolan movies. I love it. I remember when he walked

974
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:43.639
in on The Hunt and we were just like.

975
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:44.639
Ohly shit, it's a baking Blair.

976
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:47.199
Yeah, but that one, at least, I mean, but that

977
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:50.440
one was more expected than when he walked down in Oppenheimer. Yah.

978
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.360
The Hunt. It's like, yeah, but it's like it's a fun,

979
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:55.480
kind of lower budget, you know, it's a Blumhouse thing.

980
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:59.159
I loved seeing him pop up in these like big, oh,

981
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:00.000
major films.

982
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.599
When he appears in the beginning of I Care a

983
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.559
Lot and then it closes out the film, I was

984
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:06.880
just like, yeah, make him Blair.

985
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:08.480
Yeah, No, that was a good one. That was a

986
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:09.360
really good movie. Yeah.

987
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:11.760
So David Thompson also in our cast, who plays William

988
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:13.800
in the film. He gets a start in twenty eleven

989
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:15.800
with Win Win How to Make It in America in

990
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:18.920
twenty eleven Unforgettable in twenty eleven, A Christmas Story two

991
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:21.679
in twenty twelve, does Blue Ruin in twenty thirteen, appears

992
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.000
on board Walk, Empire in twenty fourteen, Moon in the

993
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:26.920
Sun twenty fourteen, Unbreakable, Kemmy Schmidt in twenty fifteen, Oh,

994
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.719
I didn't see that episode Green Room in twenty fifteen,

995
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.800
The Outcast, Gotham, The Boys, Panic, Fear Street Part one,

996
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:36.679
and in twenty twenty one. Then He'd does Station nineteen

997
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:39.000
twenty twenty two, and most recently It's What's Inside in

998
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:39.800
twenty twenty four.

999
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:42.360
Right, which is not an ed Great movie.

1000
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:44.559
Eggar Wright was credited on a review I read. I

1001
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:45.960
don't know why, but I'm gonna find out.

1002
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:47.960
Maybe they said it reminded them of an ed Great

1003
00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:50.079
could have been that was a fun Maybe he appears

1004
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.119
in the movie. I don't know, he doesn't, okay.

1005
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:54.800
Amy Hargraves also wrapping up our cast, who plays Sam

1006
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:56.840
in the film. She gets her start in nineteen ninety

1007
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:00.639
four's Brain Scan. His sister is the main chicken brain

1008
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.719
Scan No Way, no Way, indeed, well it's yes way,

1009
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:05.320
yes way.

1010
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:05.880
And sorry.

1011
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:09.119
Then she does ABC after school specials in ninety four

1012
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.480
Remember Me in ninety five, Flashback in ninety seven, Family Log,

1013
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.079
Growing Down in Brooklyn, Law and Order, Criminal Intent in

1014
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.440
two thousand and two, Little Bill in two thousand and three,

1015
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:23.000
Third Watch two thousand and three, Michael Clayton, The Unusuals, Offspring, Shame, Homeland,

1016
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:26.480
Person of Interest, Blue Bloods, The Carry Diaries, The following

1017
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.880
Blue Ruin in twenty thirteen, The Blacklist, Elementary, How He

1018
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:34.119
Fell In Love, Power, Blind Spot, thirteen Reasons Why Sometimes

1019
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:36.239
Other Than Now in twenty twenty one, Bowl in twenty

1020
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:39.840
twenty one, Billions, hay Seed, Founder's Day, and most recently,

1021
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:41.119
Test Screening in twenty twenty four.

1022
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:42.639
We never saw Founders dated, but.

1023
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:44.400
We did not. We needed we need miss miss us

1024
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:45.960
in theaters. And I think it's like, I think it's

1025
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:46.920
on two B now.

1026
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:49.000
Oh well to check it out. But man, she has

1027
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:51.320
I had no idea she went. She built such a

1028
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:53.719
career after brain scan. That's awesome. I love that.

1029
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:55.800
So what was your first time watching Blue Ruin?

1030
00:47:56.119 --> 00:48:00.320
So I was a fan of Jeremy Solliner since, like

1031
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:03.119
I said, since Murder Party, and I was living on

1032
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:06.960
the East Coast at that time working in movies, so

1033
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:10.719
I added him on Facebook and he accepted my friend request.

1034
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:13.599
We had some friends in common, mostly like people through Fangoria,

1035
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:19.519
the old Fangoria, and I remember him promoting I Kicked In.

1036
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:21.880
I want to say I put in a very small

1037
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:23.440
amount of money on the Kickstar. I was very broke

1038
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:25.000
at the time, but I think I might have put

1039
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:29.079
five bucks in or something. And I remember being so

1040
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.559
excited that he was crowdfunding a new movie because I

1041
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:34.840
just wanted to see a new movie from him. Oh

1042
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:38.639
hell yeah. And I remember kind of like falling off

1043
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:39.920
and not hearing about it, and then all of a

1044
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:42.960
sudden seeing people saying like, it's on Netflix and it's

1045
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:47.559
really good. And that was when I had to watch

1046
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.000
it because I was already a Netflix subscriber. So I

1047
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.760
put it on and my jaw was like on the

1048
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.719
floor pretty much the whole movie. That that first third

1049
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:59.440
of the film is some of the best filmmaking. Perfect

1050
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:03.440
It's just perfection. The way the film opens is we

1051
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:06.360
meet this beach bump played by Macon Blair. Yeah, and

1052
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:08.159
he's a beach bump.

1053
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:09.360
He's a beach living in his car.

1054
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:11.719
Yeah, well and occasionally in people's houses when they're not

1055
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:13.519
holding it yet. Because we open with him, I believe,

1056
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:15.960
taking a bath in making a bath in someone else's.

1057
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:18.079
He had a sandwich, he's got it, and he's just

1058
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:20.880
in this house. The TV's on, and then they come home.

1059
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:23.119
Yeah yeah, and he just leaves and takes some clothes

1060
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:23.719
on his way out.

1061
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:24.000
Yeah.

1062
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:26.440
So he's just kind of hanging out doing whatever. He's

1063
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.000
all disheveled and and and stuff, and he has this

1064
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.840
he's living in this beat up car that doesn't run. Yeah,

1065
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:35.320
it just sits there. And it appears that the beach

1066
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.440
community know him. They probably don't know that he's like

1067
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:40.320
breaking into people's houses because he seems good at it.

1068
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:42.159
He was able to slip out, you know, real quick.

1069
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.480
Yeah do you Even?

1070
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:56.679
Movie? Will be right back. Welcome back to do You Even?

1071
00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:01.360
Movie.

1072
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:04.320
So, now as he's like hanging out doing this thing,

1073
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:06.880
this cop comes and he's of course nervous because he

1074
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:08.119
thinks they're going to tell him like you can't sleep

1075
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:10.599
with the beach or whatever. And the cop is super

1076
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:13.000
nice to him and she tells him like, look, I

1077
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:14.559
just need you to come with me. You're not in trouble.

1078
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:19.159
He comes along and we find out that someone who

1079
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:24.239
committed a crime related to him, he's being legally notified, Yes,

1080
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:27.119
that this person is being released from prison.

1081
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:28.239
Wade Cleland Junior.

1082
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:33.639
Yes. And as the film progresses, we find out what happened,

1083
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:35.440
what he did, well, well, we find out what they

1084
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:38.840
think happened versus what actually really happened. Yeah, And basically

1085
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.639
we find out that his parents were murdered and a

1086
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:43.480
long time ago.

1087
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:45.519
Long time twenty years, Yeah, twenty years.

1088
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:48.159
And he's just been bumming it up ever since. Yeah.

1089
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:51.280
But now all of a sudden, instead of being like

1090
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:56.079
an aimless vagabond, all of a sudden, he's gathering up

1091
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:58.440
all the little bits of money he has left, and

1092
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:00.800
he's and he goes, this is why I love it.

1093
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:05.159
He goes to like an AutoZone, He buys a car battery.

1094
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:07.880
He fixes his car so like, That's for the reason

1095
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.639
I love that is not because not just because he

1096
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:13.360
knew how or whatever, but because he had been choosing

1097
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:14.079
not not to.

1098
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:16.239
He had been beating a beach bump, didn't care.

1099
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:17.880
He was like, why does the car need to move?

1100
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:21.360
I'm not moving. So he gets his car up and running,

1101
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.920
and it's a great sequence because he's so dutifully and

1102
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:27.960
silently just does all this yeh, and at this point

1103
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.199
he's barely spoken. Yeah, he may not have spoken at all.

1104
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:31.519
Well, and he also buys a postcard.

1105
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:35.639
Well, that's that's why he after he's fixed the car,

1106
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.440
because he's at a pawn shop trying to get a gun. Yes,

1107
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:41.159
but he doesn't have enough money for this. Not enough money, no, no,

1108
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.000
So he tries to steal a gun by breaking into

1109
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:44.800
a car.

1110
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.639
Breaks into a truck, goes and gets the gun case,

1111
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:50.400
gets the gun and realizes there's a lock on the trigger.

1112
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.719
Yeah, there's a trigger lock on it, so tries to

1113
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.159
break it off, can't, breaks the gun yep.

1114
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:56.920
Takes it to a beach and breaks the gun entirely.

1115
00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:59.159
And I love this because he's using a crowbar trying

1116
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:01.320
to hit it off, breaks the gun completely because he

1117
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:04.800
snaps the pardon my gun knowledge.

1118
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:05.320
A finger guard.

1119
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:08.599
No, he's out of the gun. He breaks the gun

1120
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:12.639
by the round the oh you mean the cylinder, the cylinder,

1121
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:14.440
The cylinder gets knocked out of the gun. So he

1122
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:16.880
takes the gun and the crowbar and puts them both

1123
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:18.239
in the trash on the beach.

1124
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:20.800
Well, that ain't working, so then.

1125
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.559
He has to get a gun somehow. Well, or does

1126
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:26.440
he or does he indeed? So that's when we follow

1127
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:30.280
him to the prison. He basically finds out that the

1128
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:32.760
day that he's getting released, and he gets his car,

1129
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:36.280
he goes out there and he just waits and he waits,

1130
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:39.199
and then we see this white limousine pull up. We

1131
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:41.519
see some people get out, and we see Wade Cleveland

1132
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:43.320
Junior come up with his little box of stuff, puts

1133
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.320
it in the limo, and the limo goes driving, and

1134
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:46.480
he follows them to a bar.

1135
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:50.159
Now, and here's one thing I love. It's never explained

1136
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:52.159
why they have a limousine.

1137
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:56.039
There's a throwaway line of dialogue help his sister. They

1138
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:59.400
are running a limousine company. Oh that's what their money.

1139
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:00.440
That's what they're money is.

1140
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.559
Oh okay, okay. That makes a lot more sense because

1141
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:04.840
when we see their family home later, it's not much

1142
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.400
to look at, so you kind of go, oh, where's

1143
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:09.239
the money going. So that's it's.

1144
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:11.000
A throwaway line from his sister about that because she's like,

1145
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:12.920
you know, and now they get to run a limousine company, like,

1146
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:13.559
how fair is that?

1147
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:16.639
So well, that makes perfect sense. I totally missed that.

1148
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:19.440
So they go to this bar and that is when

1149
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:21.960
Dwight pulls up, and I love I love this too,

1150
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.760
because he pulled, they they go past, or they go

1151
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:26.920
park their car. He drives past and parks his car

1152
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:29.119
off a little bit. Yeah, and then sneaks around the

1153
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:30.960
back of the bar. And the one thing that I

1154
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:34.360
love about this movie in regards to Dwight's shots, especially,

1155
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:38.000
he's he's going by the run. He he doesn't know

1156
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:40.400
what he's doing. He's just going by what he thinks

1157
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:41.239
he should be doing.

1158
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.559
And he's kind of instinct. Yeah, and he's and he's

1159
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:45.840
out of his element. Yeah, oh yeah, but he's but

1160
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:50.239
he's still like very slow and methodically plotting. Yeah, And

1161
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:51.639
that's the other thing I love. I love that he

1162
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:54.280
just like sees this as happening. He's like, well, gotta

1163
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:57.119
get the car running, gotta get a weapon, gotta get

1164
00:53:57.159 --> 00:53:57.960
to where I need to go.

1165
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:02.199
I don't think he speaks his first a dialogue until after. Yeah,

1166
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:03.800
I don't think he's because I don't think he speaks

1167
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:05.159
to the cop. I don't think he says a word

1168
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:07.880
out loud. Yeah, because then so well we don't want

1169
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.800
to get ahead. But yeah, but basically later on, when

1170
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:13.639
he sees his sister and they're talking. He says like,

1171
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:14.360
I'm not used to.

1172
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:18.039
Talking as much. Yeah, yeah, so uh so please please

1173
00:54:18.079 --> 00:54:18.360
so yeah.

1174
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:20.239
He so he's sneaking around the back and he's going

1175
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:21.800
through this alley. He gets into the back of the

1176
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.519
club and we see that the bar is in business

1177
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:26.639
and everything. And he sneaks past this entry of the

1178
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:29.119
bar and goes into one of the supply rooms and

1179
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:31.320
finds a knife that you would use to like basically

1180
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:34.239
chop like the olives and stuff like that. Yes, so

1181
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.239
he's got this little tiny blade and he goes into

1182
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:41.039
the bathroom and he waits and he waits, and then

1183
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:44.039
Wag Junior comes in with the one guy. The other

1184
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:45.599
guy leaves him and then he comes out of the

1185
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:48.480
stall just sticks him in the neck. He and he

1186
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:50.719
starts fighting with him and everything. And then when he

1187
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:52.239
gets the upper hand again, he takes the blade and

1188
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:53.559
just sticks it right into his head.

1189
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:57.960
Yeah. Quick, but well the sticking into his head is quick. Yeah,

1190
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.039
but he stabs him in the neck. Yeah, Wade, he

1191
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.559
grabs him. He's there. And the thing I liked about

1192
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:08.719
that was making Blair his reaction to like being strangled

1193
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:11.320
and stuff is not really even fear. No, I mean

1194
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:14.320
he's aware, like he doesn't want to die like outwardly.

1195
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:16.000
Would you like to know something in regards to that

1196
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:17.760
scene that's a that's technically trivia.

1197
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:18.480
Sure.

1198
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.239
The guy that's playing Wade was actually strangling making and

1199
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:23.880
Macon had to tell him a couple of times like

1200
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:25.760
hey man, like all you gotta do is like throw me,

1201
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:27.599
because like when he has his hand on his throat

1202
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:29.440
and you like see his eyes go, he was literally

1203
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:30.079
choking him.

1204
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:33.159
Everybody knows that if somebody's choking you too hard, all

1205
00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:37.599
you have to say is easy daddy or you're safe. Word.

1206
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.920
I mean I think easy daddy's better, not bad or yellow.

1207
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:43.960
Yeah, you know, but yeah, I mean he stabs him

1208
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:45.880
in the neck, and then he stabs him in the temple.

1209
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:49.760
And when we say the violence is realistic, the blood

1210
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:51.800
that comes out is not like horror film style. It's

1211
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:54.039
exactly what would be if somebody got stabbed in the temple.

1212
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:56.519
And when he falls down after he's pulled the knife out, yeah,

1213
00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:59.000
they put there's blood in his eye, but not a

1214
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:00.920
ton and his eyes just all red and the blood's

1215
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:04.679
coming out and coming out, and he starts to slowly die.

1216
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:06.159
And Macon gets covered in his blood.

1217
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:06.920
Oh yeah.

1218
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:10.159
So he walks, walks out and goes over to the car,

1219
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:12.880
and before he leaves, he sticks the knife into the

1220
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:15.679
tire the limousine. Then he gets back in his car,

1221
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:17.800
realizes his keys are in the bathroom.

1222
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:20.519
Well, because they'd established earlier that he keeps the car

1223
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:24.760
keys around his neck. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that

1224
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:28.320
was his parents car. Yes, So so it's like it's sentimental.

1225
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:29.719
So fun story that they don't talk about the movie

1226
00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:31.400
at all. Uh you notice how the bullet holes are

1227
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:34.000
in the car. Oh yeah, that's because his parents were

1228
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:34.800
killed in that car.

1229
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.159
Oh that makes perfect sense because they mentioned at one

1230
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:38.760
point they say, like your mom being in the car

1231
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.360
was unfortunate. Yep, so that now that makes perfect So yeah,

1232
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:42.840
perfect sense.

1233
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:44.480
So he gets back into his car, realize he doesn't

1234
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:46.719
have the keys, so then he goes and steals the

1235
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:49.039
limousine with the knife in the tire, yeah, with the

1236
00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:51.800
flat tire, flat tire, and speeds off, speeds off. They

1237
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:53.679
come running out after him because they found Waight at

1238
00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:56.039
this point. So he's driving and he goes a bit weighs,

1239
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.559
he's frantic, and then he starts hearing some knocking on

1240
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:01.000
the back window and realize says that somebody's in the

1241
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:03.239
back of the limousine. Yes, so he pulls over to

1242
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:06.239
the side and that's when the younger brother, William, comes

1243
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:08.400
out and he's like, you know, did you hurt Wade,

1244
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:11.599
And he's like, yeah, he hurt my family, and William,

1245
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:14.159
not missing a beat, goes, I don't think he did,

1246
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.119
takes off running. Yeah, it just runs away from him.

1247
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:21.039
Yeah. And that's a great moment too, because we're learning

1248
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:23.360
so much about this character. We're learning so much about

1249
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:26.480
how he views this vengeance. But and that's kind of

1250
00:57:26.519 --> 00:57:28.679
what I like about the movie is this idea of

1251
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:32.119
a person who has nothing to lose, and also the

1252
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:38.360
idea of of he's not stupid. No, he's not going

1253
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:42.559
into these situations believing he's John Rambo. He's going into

1254
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:46.719
these situations with a very realistic attitude that he'll probably

1255
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:49.199
die doing this and that's fine.

1256
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:52.559
He wants to have this conclusion to his story. And

1257
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:56.480
because of that, he makes mistakes because he's literally your

1258
00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:58.639
average man taking vengeance. I mean like when he stabs

1259
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:00.800
the tire, he cuts his hand super Yeah.

1260
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:03.000
It's one of my favorite little moments. Sandas is covered

1261
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:04.840
in blood, and he's already covered in blood, but now

1262
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.599
he's bleeding even more, even more. And that's another thing

1263
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:11.480
is his injuries are very realistically depicted, especially later on, Yeah,

1264
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:13.719
when it it nearly makes you sick to your stomach.

1265
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:16.639
That's That's one of the things that makes the movie

1266
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:20.800
work is that it's very it's very guttural and very

1267
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:24.880
realistic in a way that is unpleasant. And I always

1268
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:28.760
enjoy when things are unpleasant. Ye, when they're when they're

1269
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:32.239
an inherently unpleasant thing like murder, murder, Yeah, you know, and.

1270
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:33.599
You know, when you get done with a murder, you

1271
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:36.119
gotta go change your appearance. So he takes his car

1272
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:39.760
and that takes the limousine, ditches it, eventually breaks into

1273
00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:42.840
another house, shaves his beard completely off, tied his hair up,

1274
00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:45.519
gets nice clothes on. Then he checks the news, reports

1275
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:48.440
the news and sees that nothing has been reported.

1276
00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:49.039
And we we forgot to mention.

1277
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:51.599
He mails that postcard, mails the postcard to his sister, Yeah,

1278
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:54.159
which basically the postcard was to explain that he was

1279
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:56.920
going to kill Wade and that he was basically gonna

1280
00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:59.719
like everything should be fine from this point. Yeah, so

1281
00:58:59.880 --> 00:59:02.519
he mails the postcar breaks into that house, and that's

1282
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:04.719
when he leaves. He goes over to a gas station,

1283
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.599
gets a ride with the trucker, and then he eventually

1284
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:08.880
arrives at his sister's house.

1285
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:14.239
Yeah, and his sister lives in a suburban neighborhood. She

1286
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:17.360
appears to have a good job, Her kids are kids.

1287
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:20.760
She has two adorable little kids, and she's just getting

1288
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:23.159
ready to say goodbye to the kids and the baby

1289
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:25.840
guitters there, and as she leaves, she sees her brother.

1290
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:29.519
This is another part again. Realism is really the key

1291
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:34.280
to what makes this movie really incredible to me. Even

1292
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:37.159
when things are a bit more outrageous or fantastic, it's

1293
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:38.199
still very real.

1294
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:51.360
Do You Even? Movie will be right back, welcome back

1295
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:52.599
to Do You Even?

1296
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:53.119
Movie.

1297
00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:00.519
His sister doesn't react, but when like but she just

1298
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:04.239
kind of goes like, oh hey, like and she takes

1299
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:09.159
him out to get a hamburger and they sit down

1300
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:11.840
just at this fast food restaurant, and again not saying much,

1301
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:13.840
not saying much at all, she does ask him like,

1302
01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:15.280
do you need money, and he's like, no.

1303
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:16.679
No, I got it. You have a box of stuff

1304
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:18.559
at the house. You're still a twenty eight hundred dollars

1305
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:21.079
you know, if the car, if you're still driving the Pontiac,

1306
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:22.440
you need to switch it over to your name.

1307
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:24.880
Yeah, And it scared me. The moment I heard that,

1308
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:26.760
I was like, oh shit, yeah, because the car was

1309
01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:30.320
left behind. Yes, So that's like the ultimately calling card

1310
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:31.400
of who was that? Yeah.

1311
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:34.079
And then what is great about this scene is she's like,

1312
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:36.599
you know, if you're here because Wade got out, I know,

1313
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:39.119
they let you know when they release a prisoner, they

1314
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:41.800
also send us a restraining order. Yeah, And that's when

1315
01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:45.159
he basically is like, I killed Wade. Wade's dead, and

1316
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:48.480
they know it's me, And that's when the whole thing

1317
01:00:48.519 --> 01:00:50.559
about the car comes out. But also before that, she

1318
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:53.400
even says that you know, I want them all dead,

1319
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:56.079
not just you know, that whole family should die, not

1320
01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:59.679
just Wade. So that's when Macon puts together that since

1321
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:03.159
the car is registered, shit is who's with your kids

1322
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:03.639
right now?

1323
01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:07.559
Well? Well, the other realization is that there was never

1324
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:09.519
a police report, So that's what he goes they never

1325
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:11.000
called the police. That means they're going to take care

1326
01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:13.400
of themselves. So he's like, who's with your kids right now.

1327
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:16.280
And it's a great tense moment. I do want to

1328
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:19.440
mention without getting into incredible amount of detail. I once

1329
01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:23.199
had a girlfriend who got a notice that a violent

1330
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:25.719
criminal related to her in some way I don't want

1331
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:29.360
to be, you know, was being released. She got that notice,

1332
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:34.239
Jesus it was. She was okay, we went out and

1333
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:38.679
got hamburgers and milkshakes to like cheer to chill out about.

1334
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:40.159
But she was just kind of like, I need to

1335
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:41.519
tell you this, and then I don't want to talk

1336
01:01:41.559 --> 01:01:44.360
about it. And I was like, all right, So yeah,

1337
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:47.519
so they really do notify victims and and uh and

1338
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:50.480
whether it's a direct victim or the victims families and stuff,

1339
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:54.360
they really do in most in most places. So yeah,

1340
01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:59.679
they rush back to her place, very tense moment. They

1341
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:02.679
get there and as they're going, they're calling the babysitter's

1342
01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:03.519
I'm answering your.

1343
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:06.039
Being Oh yeah, like bad out of hell. So she

1344
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:08.239
gets in the driveway, runs up. The babysitter comes from

1345
01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:09.880
the side and she's like, well, what's going on? Goes

1346
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:12.199
in the house, kids are fine, nothing is wrong and everything,

1347
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:14.199
and now she's pissed. She even starts attacking him.

1348
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:16.039
A little bit. Yeah, she's bad that he scared her

1349
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:19.159
so bad. Yeah, And it's also it's hilarious to think

1350
01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:21.480
about how like how that works in life though, Like

1351
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:24.440
you need to get a hold of somebody right now

1352
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:27.239
to make sure they're alive. Yeah, and they don't answer.

1353
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:30.519
In general, if someone, say, doesn't pick up their phone

1354
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:33.559
for twenty five minutes, not a big deal, not a

1355
01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:36.880
big deal, but in this case, yeah, quite a big deal,

1356
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:37.519
very big deal.

1357
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:40.199
So she's like, you know, I want you go on

1358
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:42.119
and everything, like, you know, don't don't be around here.

1359
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:44.920
And he basically tells her that he's concerned because now

1360
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.159
that they know the cars registered to her, they can

1361
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:50.280
come right here. It's not just between him that he's

1362
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:51.559
worried that she's gonna get involved.

1363
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:54.760
Yeah, and he's worried that they're gonna come for revenge. Yeah,

1364
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:56.599
he's hoping. And because one of the things he keeps,

1365
01:02:56.679 --> 01:02:58.079
you know, saying, is he's like, I wonder if they're

1366
01:02:58.119 --> 01:02:59.840
here for me or they're here for you. Yeah, And

1367
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:03.960
that's a really, you know, solid point. So she convinces her,

1368
01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:06.840
He convinces her to just get out of town, out there, Yeah,

1369
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:10.199
just her and the kids, just leave, and he sets

1370
01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:11.360
himself up in her house.

1371
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:15.559
He posts up, so he basically is making every men's

1372
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:17.719
possible to like to check if they're coming, Like he's

1373
01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:19.840
checking out the window, and eventually does see them at

1374
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:23.360
night parked outside the house. Yeah, and at this point

1375
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:25.199
he's tried to grab anything that he can for a weapon,

1376
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:26.280
which I think is a pitchfork.

1377
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:28.880
He finds a pitchfork, Well he doesn't. He's like, again,

1378
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:32.239
this is kind of that point about he's not an idiot. Yeah.

1379
01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:34.800
He he sets up things to help him know if

1380
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:37.880
doors are being you know, opened. He has the pitchfork.

1381
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:41.039
He goes upstairs. He makes the bed up like somebody's

1382
01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:44.159
laying in bed wrapped in blankets, and turns lound, turns

1383
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.039
the faucet on, hoping that that'll distract them, to make

1384
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:49.559
them think to go upstairs. Yeah, so we can hopefully

1385
01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:52.440
get some kind of jump on these guys. And sure enough,

1386
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:54.000
as soon as he turns on that light.

1387
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:55.599
They're in the house there.

1388
01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:58.559
Well, he notices the guy, the guy walking up to

1389
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:00.760
the house. He breaks the little piece of glass and

1390
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:04.400
unlocks the door. Yep, and we're off to the races.

1391
01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:07.000
So he's in the house with him and makings or

1392
01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:09.159
Dwight's trying to avoid him. He hides behind a couch

1393
01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:10.760
at one point. One of my favorite shots is he's

1394
01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:12.559
hiding behind this couch. We see the one guy come

1395
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:14.639
from the side looking and he's just basically trying to

1396
01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:17.480
figure out what to do. And by this point he

1397
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:18.960
knows that he's got to do something.

1398
01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:22.000
Well, I mean yeah, yeah.

1399
01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:23.960
So that's when he gets out. He goes outside to

1400
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:24.800
his car, right.

1401
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:27.719
Yeah, he goes out. Well, he goes outside because there's

1402
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:28.760
another guy out there.

1403
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:30.719
Yeah, he escapes because, yeah, you got Teddy in the

1404
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:34.400
house and Carl's out front, so or maybe it's no wait,

1405
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:36.159
because Teddy's the one he hits in the car. Yes,

1406
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:38.360
Teddy's in the house, Carls out front. Karl's got the crossbow.

1407
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:40.239
So he gets out to his car and he gets

1408
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:43.320
it started, and that's when Teddy comes up with a shotgun,

1409
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:45.400
but he runs his car into him, knocks him out.

1410
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.239
He takes the shotgun and he goes up to Carl

1411
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:50.639
who's got the crossbow, and then Carl goes running. But

1412
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:52.599
Carl gets one shot off right in.

1413
01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:56.039
His leg into his thighs thigh, which is worse. Well,

1414
01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:58.800
not just worse, because I mean it hurts a lot,

1415
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.360
it's higher up your leg, harder to walk, but also

1416
01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:02.840
it could nick your car.

1417
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:04.199
Is that where your argument?

1418
01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:06.280
Oh yeah, it could nick an artery and you'll bleed,

1419
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:10.519
it'll die immediately die. So it's pretty scary.

1420
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:14.960
Yeah. So he gets Teddy's body into the trunk before

1421
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:17.159
he gets the shotgun. So he's got Teddy's body in

1422
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:19.079
the trunk and he goes after Karl briefly, but then

1423
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:21.079
Karl gets to a dark like alley behind the house

1424
01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:23.679
and he's like no, like, I'm not doing this. So

1425
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:25.679
it gets back in the car and drives off and

1426
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:28.239
that's when he realizes he has to treat his wound.

1427
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:34.400
Yeah, so he he cuts the arrow so that it's

1428
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:36.639
not sticking out. Yeah, he cuts it so he can

1429
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:39.599
like cover it up and he goes into just a pharmacy.

1430
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:40.719
I love.

1431
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.039
So my favorite my favorite part about him cutting it though,

1432
01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:45.440
is he you know, he gets Teddy into his car

1433
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:48.039
and that's when he pulls out a hacksaw, a hammer,

1434
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:51.559
some clippers and then puts the arrow into the door,

1435
01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:53.880
like closes the door on it, cuts it with the

1436
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.519
hacksaw and then realizes he's got to get something to

1437
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:57.760
take take try and take it out.

1438
01:05:57.880 --> 01:05:59.920
Oh yeah, yeah. So he ends he's just in a

1439
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:03.519
pharmacy and he's buying like all of the like. He

1440
01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:06.599
buys a jug of alcohol and a jug of peroxide

1441
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:10.519
and buys all this stuff, painkillers, scalpel. Well, and this

1442
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:12.159
is why it's so great. Well, he buys an exact

1443
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:14.400
exactly because I don't know what kind of pharmacies you

1444
01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:17.679
have around you, but they don't usually carry scalpels super glue,

1445
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:21.079
so well, you trust me, you want super glue. But

1446
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:24.239
he grabs a needle and thread and this is another

1447
01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:27.239
great moment. So he's getting all the things, all the

1448
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:31.840
trement to take care of this wound yourself. He goes

1449
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:34.039
up to the to the cashier and as he's paying

1450
01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:35.880
one of the dollar bills just to cover the blood.

1451
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:37.360
And what I love about that is that he looks

1452
01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:40.440
at he goes I yeah yeah, and he doesn't he

1453
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:42.400
doesn't explain at all, and the pharmacist is just like

1454
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:45.800
here you go, yeah yeah, I mean, considering what he's buying.

1455
01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:48.440
If if I mean, although he did kill somebody, but

1456
01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:51.000
out right, then if he had killed somebody he must

1457
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:53.719
have decided to save their life, you know. But yeah,

1458
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:56.119
the pharmacists. So now he's in his car and and

1459
01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:58.960
one of the most gruesome scenes in the whole movie horrific.

1460
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:02.559
He's trying to dig into his skin. Well, and he's

1461
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:05.760
trying to dig out the arrow. He's got the pliers

1462
01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:08.440
and he's trying, he's trying to he's screaming, screaming, and

1463
01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:11.519
then and it's it's really shocking. It's they don't cut

1464
01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:13.719
away at all from it. And then he just kind

1465
01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:16.360
of and it cuts and he's in a hospital. Yeah,

1466
01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:16.719
he goes.

1467
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:19.199
So he walks into a hospital and he's like, I

1468
01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:22.440
had an accident and then faints.

1469
01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:24.079
My leg and then he just falls over and he's

1470
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:26.440
dragging blood across the wall. Yep. Well I just love

1471
01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:29.159
that because again, he's not John Rambo. No, you know

1472
01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:32.000
Rambo would would would you know, put his knife in

1473
01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:35.280
the fire and then cauterize that wound. No, No, he tried.

1474
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:37.519
He saw he he whether he saw it in a

1475
01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:40.719
movie or he took a first aid kit class. Yeah,

1476
01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:42.679
like he knows what he needs to do, but how

1477
01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:44.800
do you do that to yourself? And and another thing

1478
01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:46.880
I love is that from the time, like he goes

1479
01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:51.159
into the pharmacy, his he's his complexion is so pale.

1480
01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:54.639
He's he's not doing well. He's well. So now he

1481
01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:56.199
wakes up in the hospital, wakes up.

1482
01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:58.079
In the hospital, realizes they've taken care of the air.

1483
01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:00.840
He opens his thing and yet it's all stitched up.

1484
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:03.599
So then he escapes the hospital. He runs wearing gown,

1485
01:08:03.679 --> 01:08:06.280
wearing his gown, his assless gown, gets.

1486
01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:07.960
Back to the Pontiac, which is the car that he

1487
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.199
borrowed from his sister, because we forgot to mention that

1488
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:12.079
she did say the extra pair of keys was in

1489
01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:14.039
the house, so she did take the pawny. He takes

1490
01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:16.840
the Pontiac, he's hidden it. He goes back and puts

1491
01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:18.800
his ear to the trunk just to see if Teddy's

1492
01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:21.800
still alive in there, and knocks on it and Teddy

1493
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:24.199
starts like, you know, hey, I mean yes, you like

1494
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:26.199
So that he gets back in the car and drives,

1495
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:28.880
and that's when he realizes that he needs to find

1496
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:29.680
a way to get a gun.

1497
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:32.359
Yeah, so he needs to do something about Teddy in

1498
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:34.439
the trunk, and I love that. Then he goes and

1499
01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:36.960
he like gets gas and there's a guy screaming in

1500
01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:38.840
the trunk. I was My first thought was, pro tip,

1501
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:41.000
turn on the radio. Turn the radio. Yeah. So is

1502
01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:42.560
this the part where he finds his buddy? Yeah?

1503
01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:45.239
So this is where he uh, I can't remember.

1504
01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:45.600
Oh.

1505
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:47.279
So he gets the stuff out of his trunk out

1506
01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:49.880
out of his sister's house. The box and stuff finds

1507
01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:52.159
the picture. I think that references Ben or something like that.

1508
01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:53.840
I think so, yeah, And so that's when he decides

1509
01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:55.960
that he's gonna go see his buddy, Ben Gaffney. And

1510
01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:58.680
so he goes to his parents' house. His mom invites

1511
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:00.600
him in and she's like, you know, Ben doesn't live

1512
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:04.600
around here anymore. Here's his address. And he finds out

1513
01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:06.359
that he works at this bar. So he goes to

1514
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:08.560
this bar in a really cool scene with the lighting

1515
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:09.279
especially well.

1516
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:12.359
And I want to mention that his friend Ben, you said. Yeah.

1517
01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:15.840
Ben is played by Devin Ratra or rat Ray right Ray.

1518
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:19.680
I love him because this was one of the first

1519
01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:21.840
movies where I noticed he was in a lot of stuff.

1520
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:24.159
I noticed him in this in Nebraska, and I noticed

1521
01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:26.479
him in an episode of I Think of Louis the

1522
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:29.640
luisek TV series, and he's been a working actor for

1523
01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:31.760
a long time. But the thing that I didn't recognize

1524
01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:34.760
him from immediately that now I always do is he

1525
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:38.239
was older brother Buzzy in Home a Alone in two

1526
01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:42.520
and I'll be I'll be dipped in shit if that

1527
01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:44.880
mother Hubbard is like, I don't swear on that part.

1528
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:48.079
If that mother Hubbard is not a phenomenal actor in

1529
01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:51.039
everything he does a stand up, which is actually one

1530
01:09:51.039 --> 01:09:53.319
of the reasons I was shocked that he was the

1531
01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:55.840
child actor buzz in Home Alone, because that was such

1532
01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:58.439
a character. You know, he was a young he was

1533
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:01.760
he was built to be a bully kid Like he

1534
01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:05.920
looks like somebody sculpted him. They were like, what's a jerk,

1535
01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:09.000
older brother. We'll get the nose, we'll get the eyebrows.

1536
01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:12.439
But as an adult he's a really great actor. Yeah,

1537
01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:16.279
And his part in this part of the film is

1538
01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:23.000
very complex, very interesting because he runs into his buddy and.

1539
01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:25.399
Waits for him outside, like that's my favorite is like

1540
01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:28.159
he waits, waits for him outside and then sees him

1541
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:30.560
come out. He's got headphones on, so he keeps calling

1542
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:33.399
to him and calling to him. Finally gets him and

1543
01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:36.079
he's just like he's like oh shit, you disappeared, dude,

1544
01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:37.359
Like I didn't even know where you were.

1545
01:10:37.439 --> 01:10:39.880
Well, he makes some reference like I put up missing

1546
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:41.560
posters for you, although I think he turns out he

1547
01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:42.520
was joking about that.

1548
01:10:44.359 --> 01:10:55.119
Do You Even movie? Will be right back, welcome back

1549
01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:56.399
to Do You Even?

1550
01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:56.880
Movie?

1551
01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:04.199
But yeah, so you realize these guys were childhood friends

1552
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:09.319
because I want to say he would have been like

1553
01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:13.399
twenty when I because the murder happened in like the

1554
01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:16.000
late nineties. Yeah, so he would have been maybe eighteen

1555
01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:19.159
or nineteen, maybe twenty somewhere in that neighborhood. Yeah, And

1556
01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:21.960
so he hasn't seen him in for a really really

1557
01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:22.880
long time. Yeah.

1558
01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:25.239
And his introduction to him is I need a favor.

1559
01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:28.960
It's big, which I love that too because the honesty,

1560
01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:32.319
you know, the direct honesty of it, none of that

1561
01:11:32.439 --> 01:11:33.840
like trying to make it all right and say like

1562
01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:36.199
hey man, I mean you know I meant to come back. No, no,

1563
01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:38.319
just I need a favor. And it's big.

1564
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:41.399
So we see them drive out to his house and

1565
01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:43.640
he's like basically telling him like, you know, hey, man,

1566
01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:46.039
like I found a polaroid recently, a UMI and a stripper,

1567
01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:48.760
and everything skips over that and then he's just like,

1568
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:51.399
you know, I need you know, I'm on time, Like

1569
01:11:51.560 --> 01:11:52.720
I need this gun.

1570
01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:55.279
Yeah, And that's when we find out he needs a

1571
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:56.520
gun yep, and his.

1572
01:11:56.479 --> 01:11:59.000
Buddy is target practice.

1573
01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:01.640
Well well target practice.

1574
01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:04.479
He doesn't hunt, he lot of guns because it's target practice.

1575
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:08.239
Well, it appears that he has occasionally been involved in

1576
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:10.720
unscrupulous activities, yeah.

1577
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:13.279
Because he mentions that he's killed two people by choice,

1578
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:15.079
on purpose, on purpose, yeah yeah.

1579
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:18.279
But but later on he does reference like you got

1580
01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:19.920
to do it right and legal. Yeah, so he's like,

1581
01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:22.479
I had to wait because I mean, we're spoiling everything.

1582
01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:26.439
But like, uh, when when he shoots somebody to save

1583
01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:28.600
his buddy, he says like, I had to wait until

1584
01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:30.239
he he aimed the gun at you to do it legal.

1585
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:32.920
So like that makes me wonder if when he says

1586
01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:35.159
he killed people by choice, it was in some kind

1587
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:35.960
of self defense.

1588
01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:38.119
I mean, he very he much cares about his property

1589
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:39.279
and what happens on it.

1590
01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:41.600
He does, no, but that's the thing. But then there

1591
01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:44.159
are like little hints, like because he ends up giving

1592
01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:46.479
him a Mini fourteen, which is the gun from the

1593
01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:50.000
eighteen and many fourteen for those who don't know anything

1594
01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:52.840
about firearms or know very little about firearms. It is

1595
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:55.359
a lot of people like to joke it's basically the

1596
01:12:55.560 --> 01:13:00.000
Kinder assault rifle. In air quotes, it's the Kinder modern

1597
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:03.199
sporting rifle. It's it's a semi automatic rifle. It's basically

1598
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:05.760
the same thing as an Air fifteen, except it's got

1599
01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:07.840
a it's all wood. Yeah, so it looks more like

1600
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:11.760
a hunting rifle and people don't worry about many fourteens

1601
01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:14.920
very much. A fine gun, but it literally shoots the

1602
01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:18.720
same bullets as an Air fifteen. It's a pretty reliable firearm.

1603
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:20.520
And that's the gun he gives him because he says,

1604
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:23.439
I bought it at a gun show. It's got no paper,

1605
01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:25.560
it's just it's just here to go.

1606
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:28.039
And even ask him, he's like, you know, because that's

1607
01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:30.479
my favorite is the initial He goes, so what what

1608
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:32.920
gun deal? Or what what do you need it for?

1609
01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:35.039
Or what kind of gun? Or I can't remember because

1610
01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:36.279
he asked him in a certain way, and he's like,

1611
01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:37.840
oh no, no, I'm not asking that. Like the better

1612
01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:39.960
I the better I don't know. Yeah, I don't want

1613
01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:43.039
the details. I just need to know, like long distance close.

1614
01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:44.560
Fame, up close far away.

1615
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:47.319
So, yeah, he gives him the gun and he basically

1616
01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:49.800
tells me he owns sixteen acres and that you know,

1617
01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:52.359
that's where he can go and do the business. So

1618
01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:55.119
he goes back to his car and he drives his

1619
01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:58.159
car out with Teddy in it, and he my favorite shot.

1620
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:00.479
He goes to the side of the car, open the door,

1621
01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:03.479
opens the glove compartment and he's just waiting and waiting

1622
01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:05.479
and then he hits the trunk button, races around back

1623
01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:06.039
with the rifle.

1624
01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:09.399
Yeah. It's a great, a great moment. Yeah, and now

1625
01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:13.279
he's got this guy basically he's his prisoner.

1626
01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:15.760
Yeah, and he says that Teddy says his leg is broken.

1627
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:17.279
So because even he's like stay in the trunk and

1628
01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:19.239
he's like, I won't be a problem. Leg's broken. So

1629
01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:21.239
that's when he asked him, you know, like, uh, you know,

1630
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:22.960
why are you doing this? And he's just like, you

1631
01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:26.000
know why, like you know, he uh, Wade killed my

1632
01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:28.239
parents and he's like, well, that's actually not what happened.

1633
01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:32.520
We find out that Wade Senior is who killed Dwight's

1634
01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:36.000
parents and his only target was his father because his

1635
01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:39.520
father had an affair with Wade Senior's wife, right, and

1636
01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:41.840
the mom just got in the crossfire. And Teddy even

1637
01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:42.760
says that, like, you know, it.

1638
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:44.199
Was unfortunate she was in that car too.

1639
01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:45.000
Yeah.

1640
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:47.159
And that's the thing is there's this whole exchange between

1641
01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:49.880
Teddy and Dwight at this point where basically Teddy says,

1642
01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:51.479
you know, the man with the gun gets to tell

1643
01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:53.399
the truth. So because he even says, like, you know,

1644
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:56.520
William said that you didn't kill my dad, and he's like, oh, well,

1645
01:14:56.760 --> 01:14:58.279
then that's that, you know, may with the gun tells

1646
01:14:58.319 --> 01:14:58.720
the truth.

1647
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:03.680
And this is also really an interesting point too, because

1648
01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:05.840
it's almost like a little bit of like Hatfields and

1649
01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:10.760
McCoy's that this like feud began because of this. And

1650
01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:13.399
the reason there had never been a need for reprisal

1651
01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:18.680
was that the supposed killer, Wade, was serving time. Yeah,

1652
01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:20.800
therefore justice was served.

1653
01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:22.359
Justice was serva and he had cancer and.

1654
01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:24.680
Well, well, I mean the Wade went to prison. Yeah,

1655
01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:26.399
And the reason they didn't want Wade Senior to go

1656
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:28.520
to prison was was he was sick with cancer already,

1657
01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:30.680
so they didn't want him to send him away. And

1658
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:33.640
then the reason that the other brother, Teddy, Yeah, the

1659
01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:35.600
reason Teddy didn't do it was he had already had

1660
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:37.640
two strikes, so he would have went to prison for

1661
01:15:37.640 --> 01:15:40.920
a really long time. And since Wade Junior had no history,

1662
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:42.680
they were like, well, you'll do the least amount of

1663
01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:44.119
time for this crime.

1664
01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:46.840
And even Teddy says at one point, because Dwight asked him,

1665
01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:48.319
he goes, you know, and what about the younger one.

1666
01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:50.199
He's like, oh, he's just a boy. Like, doesn't even

1667
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:50.880
bring him into you.

1668
01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:52.520
Yeah, he won't even say he's his brother. Yeah, he's

1669
01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:53.640
just like, oh, that's just a boy.

1670
01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:56.960
Just a boy. So that's when Dwight asked him to

1671
01:15:57.039 --> 01:15:59.600
basically call them. He's like, you know, call them, tell

1672
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:02.000
them it's over. We'll meet in a public place. We'll

1673
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:04.199
settle this, you know. So here's the phone.

1674
01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:06.039
Well, and he says like, why didn't you call the police,

1675
01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:06.520
And he's.

1676
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:07.520
Like, we want to finish this in house.

1677
01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:09.319
We want just like you, just like you did. Yeah,

1678
01:16:09.399 --> 01:16:11.079
and he says like, what if I turn myself And

1679
01:16:11.079 --> 01:16:12.800
he's like hell yeah, and he's like I mean to

1680
01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:15.000
the police. And he's like, you know, well I love that.

1681
01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:16.640
He just goes, Nope, that won't do it.

1682
01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:18.479
Yeah, you don't get that option. So that's when he

1683
01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:20.840
hands him the phone and he has him call one

1684
01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:23.239
cell phone. It goes voicemail, leaves a voicemail and then

1685
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:24.520
he's like, can you wand if I call the house

1686
01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:26.680
and he's like, yeah, call the house, acts like he

1687
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:28.680
has the sister on the phone. He's like, you know,

1688
01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:30.279
she wants to talk to you, gets him come over.

1689
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:31.760
As soon as he comes over with that gun, he

1690
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:33.960
grabs the barrel, grabs the gun from him, and climbs

1691
01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:36.079
out of the trunk and is aiming the gun right on.

1692
01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:39.159
Dwight, and he pretty much tells him what happened, Yeah,

1693
01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:42.800
how the family what works, and how they're not going

1694
01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:45.800
to give up until they get their revenge. And he

1695
01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:47.279
says like, if you're gonna you can kill me, but

1696
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:50.119
you just need to promise me my sister's out of

1697
01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:51.239
it like that it ends here.

1698
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:53.600
Yeah, And he won't give him that satisfaction. No, And

1699
01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:55.199
he's getting ready to kill him, and then we hear

1700
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:57.920
a bullet whiz past him. Yes, and then we hear

1701
01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:01.399
another fire and his fucking head goes to one side.

1702
01:17:01.479 --> 01:17:03.960
Yes, because he gets shot by his Buddi's Mosen the Gaunt,

1703
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.279
which he said was his gun that he was really enjoying,

1704
01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:08.720
the gun that I got Rachel for her birthday. Told

1705
01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:11.920
me that so, which is a long rifle Soviet era

1706
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.960
rifle shoots a very powerful projectile. And I love it

1707
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:17.239
what he walks me because his face he's like, that's

1708
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:19.720
what bullets do. He's like, that's face line the lions do,

1709
01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:20.920
that's what bullets do. Yeah.

1710
01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:22.800
So Ben comes from the side and he's just like,

1711
01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:24.319
you know, had to wait for him to pull on you.

1712
01:17:24.479 --> 01:17:27.600
And Ben is very very clear that he does not

1713
01:17:27.640 --> 01:17:29.319
want this on his property. He wants him in the trunk.

1714
01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:31.319
He wants the gun in the trunk, he wants the

1715
01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:34.399
cell phone, and and Dwight does even like what about

1716
01:17:34.399 --> 01:17:36.239
the piece of his brain? He's like, COYOTESO get that.

1717
01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:38.039
Yeah, He's like, as long as there are no teeth, Yeah,

1718
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:41.399
no teeth. So matter of fact about it, which is

1719
01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:45.319
which is a great example of what can happen when

1720
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:48.039
you're gone for so long. You know, you've been gone

1721
01:17:48.079 --> 01:17:52.119
for ten fifteen years, and your buddy is he's seen

1722
01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:52.520
some shit.

1723
01:17:52.600 --> 01:17:54.600
And we failed to mention too that Dwight did tried

1724
01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:56.920
to take like a warning shot and completely prove that

1725
01:17:56.960 --> 01:17:58.479
he does not know how to handle that gun, so

1726
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:00.720
then Ben makes the comment I'm gonna set you up

1727
01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:01.239
a bug shot.

1728
01:18:01.399 --> 01:18:03.760
Yeah, you're not gonna hit anything otherwise.

1729
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:05.479
So he takes him out to the field has in practice.

1730
01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:06.960
H do you know what kind of gun he gives him.

1731
01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:11.479
It is some kind of a of a revolver style,

1732
01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:14.880
smaller shotgun. I couldn't tell it may have been a

1733
01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:17.880
ten gage or something. I couldn't tell you exactly what

1734
01:18:17.960 --> 01:18:18.439
gun it was.

1735
01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:21.159
But Dwight' hitting everything with this. So he says, you know,

1736
01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:24.079
that's that's the gun for you and basically tells him

1737
01:18:24.119 --> 01:18:26.000
that you know, hey, man, like you know, I'll sit

1738
01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:29.159
you up SOMERI some extra AMMO, but like this vengeance

1739
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:32.159
business is ugly. Like I'm normally I would be, you know,

1740
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:34.119
here for you, but like this is ugly man.

1741
01:18:34.199 --> 01:18:35.960
Well, well, he says, like I don't mind being here

1742
01:18:35.960 --> 01:18:38.720
for you, but like this isn't okay, Like this is ugly.

1743
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:41.399
We're business like That's what he's basically saying, Like I'm

1744
01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:43.000
I'm here for you, I'm your friend and everything, but

1745
01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:45.359
this is hideous. Yeah, what we're doing is not okay,

1746
01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:47.920
And then he gives them some really interesting advice, which

1747
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:50.960
is he says, this is personal for you when you

1748
01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:55.439
get in there. Don't talk, don't don't don't, don't explain things,

1749
01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:57.359
don't try to whatever. He's like, that gets you killed.

1750
01:18:57.399 --> 01:18:59.479
Just shoot you, just shoot. And I thought that was

1751
01:18:59.479 --> 01:19:02.920
a really brilliant point two. I mean, like, if because

1752
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:06.920
it's personal, you're more likely to fail. Yeah, and he

1753
01:19:07.039 --> 01:19:09.960
takes that somewhat to heart at first, a little bit so.

1754
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:12.800
And he also tells Ben to burn the polaroid of

1755
01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:13.840
him in this and then.

1756
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:15.119
If he finds, he's like, please burn it.

1757
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:16.720
And we see him in the in his kitchen and

1758
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:18.800
join a beer and puts the polaroid in the microwave

1759
01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:20.079
and just smokes that some bitch.

1760
01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:22.000
Yeah, it just it's just gone zo.

1761
01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:24.479
So he drives off and we see Ben is in

1762
01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:26.600
his truck and he tries to start it, but nothing happens.

1763
01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:28.640
He goes around front to see that Dwight remove his battery,

1764
01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:30.520
which we cut to Dwight's car and the batteries right

1765
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:31.399
behind Dwight's seat.

1766
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:33.279
I figured he did that so we wouldn't follow him. Yeah,

1767
01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:34.960
that's exactly why I figured.

1768
01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:47.079
Do you even move, he will be right back welcome

1769
01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:51.279
back to Do You Even movie?

1770
01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:56.159
So that's when Dwight decides that he is just going

1771
01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:59.159
to go straight to the Cleveland's house. And he gets there,

1772
01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:02.800
he sneaks round back and kicks in the door and

1773
01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:03.800
they are not home.

1774
01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:06.239
I did find out what kind of firearm it is.

1775
01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:09.000
It's a rossy circuit judge, which he does mention that

1776
01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:11.159
name what he's going through the Judge. Yeah, and I

1777
01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:14.560
was rot it's a four to ten or a forty

1778
01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:18.560
five long Colt, which is a you can in a

1779
01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:20.960
forty five long colt firearm. You can use four ten

1780
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:24.319
shotgun rounds, yeah, or you can use the long colt.

1781
01:20:24.880 --> 01:20:28.319
It became more famous as a gun called the Judge,

1782
01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:31.760
which is a revolver pistol. Well, it's a revolver pistol,

1783
01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:32.720
but you could put.

1784
01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:35.800
Even says that thing takes slugs, but you wouldn't hit

1785
01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:36.319
any You wouldn't.

1786
01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:38.560
Yeah, and he's like, but you only have five shots? Yeah,

1787
01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:41.159
but so which is, you know, not a lot for

1788
01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:42.479
a guy who doesn't know a lot about gun.

1789
01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:44.159
So he's kicked in the door, he's going around the

1790
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:46.640
house of the gun. They're not home, So what's his

1791
01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:49.800
first instinct is to remove all the firearms from the.

1792
01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:53.119
House, and there are plenty of plenty of them. He

1793
01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:55.520
just piles them up on a bed sheet.

1794
01:20:55.439 --> 01:20:57.720
Rolls them up, and throws them into the lake that's

1795
01:20:57.800 --> 01:20:58.399
right by the house.

1796
01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:00.520
Yep, whatever it is out.

1797
01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:03.439
So that's when you know, this is where I really

1798
01:21:03.439 --> 01:21:06.760
really appreciate the way that they show this because he

1799
01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:09.960
does not wait until just dark. He waits two days

1800
01:21:09.960 --> 01:21:11.800
in this house for them to return home, which is

1801
01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:16.119
drinking water and also looking up at their pictures like

1802
01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:18.359
he's he's he's learning things about the family a little

1803
01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:20.720
bit that or reaffirming what he already knew.

1804
01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:23.479
Yeah, and remember Teddy had referenced before he died that

1805
01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:29.960
his sister is bossy, bossy and most Yeah. So that's

1806
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:32.039
when you know he decides that he's just going to

1807
01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:35.000
wait this out. And he eventually picks up the number

1808
01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:37.119
of the house, goes outside on his phone and calls them,

1809
01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:39.840
leaves an answer machine message and basically says, you know,

1810
01:21:40.479 --> 01:21:43.039
Teddy's dead, waits dead, and as far as I'm concerned,

1811
01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:45.239
that's two of mine and two of yours. This can

1812
01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:47.399
be done or we can keep going. Well, he says,

1813
01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:49.199
this can be done. All I ask is that you

1814
01:21:49.359 --> 01:21:52.800
don't come after my sister. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so uh,

1815
01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:55.399
now they come home. They come home.

1816
01:21:55.479 --> 01:21:59.000
So before this has happened, we've seen him waiting and everything,

1817
01:21:59.319 --> 01:22:01.560
just around the corner and whatnot. So he's posted up

1818
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:04.520
at this point they come home, he hears the car

1819
01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:06.560
and he just hides around the corner, and he's also

1820
01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:08.640
left the message on this machine. By the point, yes,

1821
01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:11.119
so they come in immediately or no. He calls the

1822
01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:12.680
house so that they'll go to the phone, right, which

1823
01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:14.600
I always love. So he calls the house, they go

1824
01:22:14.640 --> 01:22:16.680
to the phone, they play the message, and that's when

1825
01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:18.079
he says the thing about you know, I just want

1826
01:22:18.079 --> 01:22:20.239
my sister left out of this. While this is happening,

1827
01:22:20.279 --> 01:22:22.239
he is right around the corner with his gun.

1828
01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:26.079
Directly behind him. But as that as it's the voicemails

1829
01:22:26.239 --> 01:22:29.319
or the answer machine is explaining everything, yeah, he stops

1830
01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:31.720
aiming at them because he wants to see how they reacted.

1831
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:33.520
And then the one brother is just like, that's when

1832
01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:35.600
we're driving to Ptompert the first place, where go that's

1833
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:37.840
we're heading straight to Pittsburgh. Kill that bitch.

1834
01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:39.640
Pops around the corner and blows him away.

1835
01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:43.079
Yeah. Well one shot, yeah, two shots and he's gone. Yeah,

1836
01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:46.880
and it is very sudden, very tense. Yeah. And at

1837
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:52.359
that point it's just the mayhem is is stilted. Yeah.

1838
01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:54.720
And we also see that William, he did not know

1839
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:57.640
was with them, has in the doorway hearing all this.

1840
01:22:57.720 --> 01:22:59.680
So he goes back out to the car and grabs the.

1841
01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:01.840
Shotgu because they were hunting, they were on a hunting trip.

1842
01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:04.960
Yeah, So that's when he basically tells them, you know,

1843
01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:07.199
like I want this to end, and this is this

1844
01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:09.159
is tonight, like this your all are going to have

1845
01:23:09.159 --> 01:23:10.800
to die, like we're all going to have to die

1846
01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:11.399
basically as.

1847
01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:13.479
Well, he says, there was a line that I thought

1848
01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:15.640
was really important. He said something along the lines of

1849
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:18.720
like I wish they'd killed me or something like that, Yeah,

1850
01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:21.399
you uh will will kill you. You should have or something

1851
01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:23.119
like that, I hope you do or something or I

1852
01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:26.520
hope I wish, I wish you would have. Yeah, And

1853
01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:29.920
and I think that's a really important element too, because,

1854
01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:33.920
like I said, everything about this movie has been about

1855
01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:36.800
being realistic, even if it if at first, like with

1856
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:39.000
the removing the arrow, he thought he could do it,

1857
01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:41.720
but then he realistically he goes to the hospital instead

1858
01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:43.760
of passing out in his car or some shit. Yeah,

1859
01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:47.960
same thing here. He's like, everything he's done, he's expected

1860
01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:51.920
to die doing. And in a way, if Wade Junior

1861
01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:53.840
had killed him back. He even says when he went

1862
01:23:53.880 --> 01:23:57.479
after he's like, I thought he'd kill me. Yeah, he really,

1863
01:23:58.199 --> 01:23:59.600
And this is where I love the movie but I

1864
01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:02.159
hate them. He really just wants to be out of

1865
01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:05.720
his own misery because he was he was clearly just

1866
01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:09.680
skating by living as a beach bum because he didn't

1867
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:11.720
really value much. But he didn't want to die, no,

1868
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:16.479
he just whatever. Yeah, now after the killer of his

1869
01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:19.279
parents has been released, and now he has this need

1870
01:24:19.319 --> 01:24:22.279
for vengeance, this need for justice, this need for whatever

1871
01:24:22.319 --> 01:24:26.199
the hell. Yeah, he can't help it, no, And I

1872
01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:29.640
think that's why he wanted to die, because he felt

1873
01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:35.399
this innate need, you know, a compulsion to go after them,

1874
01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:37.279
and he knew that he couldn't stop it.

1875
01:24:37.359 --> 01:24:39.359
Well, and he also says that, you know, I don't

1876
01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:43.119
understand why my dad loved your mom, Like this was

1877
01:24:43.159 --> 01:24:44.560
never anything bad, it was.

1878
01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:46.399
I don't why my dad loving your mom.

1879
01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:50.119
Yeah. So by this point William is back in the

1880
01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:51.920
house and we see. One of my favorite shots of

1881
01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:53.680
the movie is Williams in the doorway of the shotgun.

1882
01:24:53.800 --> 01:24:56.840
We pan across this mantle that's decked with all their

1883
01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:59.399
photos of the of the family all having guns for

1884
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:00.000
the most part too.

1885
01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:02.439
Yeah, I mean they're they're clearly a hunting fanily Yeah,

1886
01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:04.399
and then a little bit more. Yeah.

1887
01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:06.319
That last pan as we get to the last photo

1888
01:25:06.399 --> 01:25:08.359
is william coming around with the shotgun, the new blood

1889
01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:10.960
of the family basically, and he gets a shot into

1890
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:13.199
Dwight hits him right in the side and then.

1891
01:25:13.079 --> 01:25:15.720
With shot knocks actually I think it was bird shot. Yeah.

1892
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:17.760
Then Dwight knocks the gun up. It's getting the last

1893
01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:19.960
shot out, and he's like, as far as i'm I think,

1894
01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:22.079
if I can count, right, you have less shots than

1895
01:25:22.119 --> 01:25:22.319
I do.

1896
01:25:22.439 --> 01:25:24.600
Yeah, because he had a double barrel shotguns, so it's

1897
01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:27.720
empty and uh and now Dwight has the gun. But

1898
01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:29.399
the young guy, they say kill and kill him, and

1899
01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:30.039
he says, I don't want to.

1900
01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:31.399
Kill want to kill him, Yeah, I don't want to

1901
01:25:31.439 --> 01:25:33.399
kill him. And that's when Dwight tells him to leave.

1902
01:25:33.479 --> 01:25:36.079
My car's down the road, you know, get out of here.

1903
01:25:36.119 --> 01:25:38.479
Well, but but the way he says it because he's

1904
01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:40.920
like he's bleeding now, and he actually says, like this

1905
01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:42.760
hurt a lot less bad than the era, and he's

1906
01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:44.680
kind of laughing about that, but he says, like my

1907
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:46.439
cars are there, you know, the keys or whatever. He says,

1908
01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:49.640
but you know, be careful. It's it's dark and it

1909
01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:51.960
might be hard to but like go go do that,

1910
01:25:52.119 --> 01:25:52.920
like get out of here.

1911
01:25:53.119 --> 01:25:56.119
Yeah, and then reveals that Will is the half brother

1912
01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:59.720
to Dwight. Well, well, Dwight reveals that, yeah, which means

1913
01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:00.640
that dwy I just knew.

1914
01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:01.159
Yeah.

1915
01:26:01.239 --> 01:26:03.159
I think I think he knew from the way Teddy

1916
01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:05.560
referred to him as just a boy. Yeah. And also,

1917
01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:09.520
but I think especially the age, because there was a

1918
01:26:09.560 --> 01:26:13.560
reference when Teddy was talking, or one of them was talking,

1919
01:26:13.560 --> 01:26:15.560
I think was Teddy was talking about his dad. He said, like,

1920
01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:17.880
the man loved to smoke, he loved to drink, and well,

1921
01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:19.800
if it weren't for the cancer, he would have fucked.

1922
01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:21.960
He would have fucked. Yeah, And and but that sets

1923
01:26:22.039 --> 01:26:24.279
up like, then, how is there a brother so young?

1924
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:25.840
Yeah, that makes sense.

1925
01:26:25.640 --> 01:26:29.720
And honestly that probably what gave away that there was

1926
01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:32.640
an affair going on was a pregnancy. Yeah, that probably

1927
01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:35.960
is a dead result. Yeah. So so now you're realizing

1928
01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:39.520
that the one person who will likely survive is the

1929
01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:43.720
intersection of all of this. So Hope goes to attack Dwhite.

1930
01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:45.800
She gets shot and killed, and that's when Chris the

1931
01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:49.520
mother reaches under the autom and grabs a freaking Tech nine, a.

1932
01:26:49.359 --> 01:26:51.479
Tech nine submachine gun.

1933
01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:54.800
And and a true.

1934
01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:59.479
Ghetto blaster firearm a A, I mean, just full automatic.

1935
01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:03.039
I was not expecting that it was it was it

1936
01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:06.319
was underneath the reclining chair. Yeah.

1937
01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:08.600
She just tips it over, grabs it, grabs it, and

1938
01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:10.920
he gets the last shot off. And we see this

1939
01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:12.840
happen because Williams walking away from the house and he

1940
01:27:12.840 --> 01:27:15.000
hears both shots right, and we also see the light

1941
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:17.439
in the house. So then Williams walking down the road.

1942
01:27:17.439 --> 01:27:19.439
He's still holding the shotgun, which he throws to the side.

1943
01:27:19.720 --> 01:27:21.880
He walks off into the night. Dwight's laying in his

1944
01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:24.560
own podal blood and he's just like Keyser in the car.

1945
01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:27.119
Keyser in the car like repeating that yeah and then

1946
01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:30.600
passes yeah. And he dies right there, and that's when

1947
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:34.039
we cut over to uh Sam's house. The next day,

1948
01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:38.000
mail slot opens, the postcard comes through and that is

1949
01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:41.359
twenty thirteen's Blue Ruin, a movie that.

1950
01:27:41.640 --> 01:27:46.640
Was I held in high regard and was shockingly better. Yeah,

1951
01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:49.079
then I remembered, which doesn't make any sense because, like

1952
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:50.640
I said, I held it in the high regard. I

1953
01:27:50.640 --> 01:27:54.439
felt that it was a phenomenal, perfect yeah movie, and

1954
01:27:54.920 --> 01:27:58.600
it's rare that a movie. So I mean, like a

1955
01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:01.000
it's a very low budget movie. I know some people simple,

1956
01:28:01.560 --> 01:28:04.279
but I know some people. I know that they raised

1957
01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:07.800
thirty five thousand dollars on Kickstarter and that Sollner put

1958
01:28:07.800 --> 01:28:10.199
in some of his own savings. Yeah, but you know

1959
01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:11.880
some people I know you said, like there was a

1960
01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:14.479
claim that the budget was four hundred thousand dollars.

1961
01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:14.840
Yeah.

1962
01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:16.760
I don't know if I believe that, unless maybe that

1963
01:28:16.880 --> 01:28:19.920
was post production funds that like Anchor Bay or somebody

1964
01:28:20.199 --> 01:28:25.880
threw in. But like for a relatively cheap movie, incredibly photographed,

1965
01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:30.399
incredibly well acted, and very well thought out, and it

1966
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:35.439
just it just knocked me on my ass a second time. Yeah,

1967
01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:39.159
and I man, I just can't say enough about this.

1968
01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:41.800
If you haven't watched the movie, even with all that

1969
01:28:41.840 --> 01:28:44.119
we gave you, and we do warn you at the

1970
01:28:44.159 --> 01:28:46.640
beginning of the show in the narration. There's still plenty

1971
01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:48.960
of oilers, but there's so much to it because it's

1972
01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:51.800
not it's kind of like, it's not just what happened,

1973
01:28:51.840 --> 01:28:53.119
it's how it happened.

1974
01:28:52.840 --> 01:28:55.520
How it happens, how it looks, the editing. I mean,

1975
01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:58.439
this is this is a movie that is shot, edited,

1976
01:28:58.720 --> 01:29:00.399
scored beautiful well.

1977
01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:03.640
And it's like. One of my favorite movies of the

1978
01:29:03.720 --> 01:29:08.560
last you know, decade is Cecaria. And I remember when

1979
01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:12.720
I went to show Rachel Sacario. I was so ampty

1980
01:29:12.800 --> 01:29:14.279
to come out on home video because I saw in

1981
01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:16.079
the theater and we had a great time watching it.

1982
01:29:16.359 --> 01:29:17.800
And she was like, well, what's it like? And I

1983
01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:20.319
was like, I'll put it to you this way. Everyone

1984
01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:23.720
dies and I haven't spoiled it. She was like, whoa.

1985
01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:26.600
And that's the way I feel about Sacario too. Is

1986
01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:30.439
that and Cario and Cacario Part two, is that you

1987
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:34.279
could know basically what's going to happen, but it's it's

1988
01:29:34.319 --> 01:29:37.359
how it happens that makes it such a great feat

1989
01:29:37.439 --> 01:29:41.680
of filmmaking and why it truly launched the careers of

1990
01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:46.000
making Blair and Jeremy Soliner and I cannot my you know,

1991
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:50.279
little micro budget filmmaker heart goes out to this film

1992
01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:54.960
because I love that it gifted both of them the

1993
01:29:55.039 --> 01:29:58.279
career they deserve, that it made Macon Blair an actor

1994
01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:00.880
in major movies who now was a director in his

1995
01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:02.319
own right and a very talented one.

1996
01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:04.359
Oh I don't feel at home in this world anymore.

1997
01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:07.239
I just watched recently, and I cannot recommend that movie enough.

1998
01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:09.520
It has an exact feel of like Blue Ruin and

1999
01:30:09.560 --> 01:30:12.760
Green Room, with that humor that's sprinkled in there, but.

2000
01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:16.039
Really like just off kilter. It's it's such a good movie,

2001
01:30:16.239 --> 01:30:18.680
such a great film.

2002
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:29.680
Do You Even movie will be right back, welcome back

2003
01:30:29.720 --> 01:30:34.279
to do you Even movie?

2004
01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:41.760
So Blue Ruin is just an absolute top notch film. Yes,

2005
01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:44.960
And so I want to know more things because well,

2006
01:30:44.960 --> 01:30:46.119
you did your research.

2007
01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:48.680
I did my research. I watched the film with the commentary,

2008
01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:50.720
which I cannot recommend enough. But like I said, this

2009
01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:52.479
is a little tough to get with the current release

2010
01:30:52.520 --> 01:30:54.960
of it. But the commentary has Sauner and Blair on

2011
01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:57.680
it both. There's also some deleted scenes and a like

2012
01:30:57.720 --> 01:31:00.439
a thirty minute making of so the budget, acording to

2013
01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:03.119
Wikipedia and IMDb, is four hundred and twenty thousand dollars.

2014
01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:06.520
Opening weekend was April twenty seventh of twenty fourteen, where

2015
01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:09.800
it took in thirty two thousand. Gross of US and

2016
01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:12.920
Canada is two hundred and fifty eight thousand gross. Worldwide

2017
01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:14.399
is nine hundred and ninety three thousand.

2018
01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:16.439
And this was a not a major release. It was

2019
01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:19.520
it was an indie release, and I wish I could

2020
01:31:19.520 --> 01:31:20.680
have caught it in the theater. I don't think it

2021
01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:22.520
screened anywhere near it might have. It might have showed

2022
01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:25.159
in Columbus or something on I don't think it even

2023
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:26.920
got there. I mean, you gotta remember this is early

2024
01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:30.399
on in the digital conversion. Yeah, a lot of theaters

2025
01:31:30.439 --> 01:31:34.159
were still were still resisting it somewhat so cause I

2026
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:38.800
feel like the full blown digital conversion being basically you

2027
01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:41.039
either do it or you die, or you be the

2028
01:31:41.079 --> 01:31:43.840
mahoning and make it work because you're just a brilliant

2029
01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:47.079
team and a brilliant drive in h was really like

2030
01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:49.600
around fifteen sixteen was when it was like, Okay, it's

2031
01:31:49.680 --> 01:31:51.720
just all digital all the time, because that's when Danberry

2032
01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:54.439
switched to digital and everybody was shocked they were able

2033
01:31:54.439 --> 01:31:56.520
to do it. I was not because as much as

2034
01:31:56.520 --> 01:31:59.239
I loved the Danburry Dollar Save Rest in Peace. I

2035
01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:02.760
remember seeing the Joker there one time and going, wow,

2036
01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:06.479
they have this on like economy mode on It's oh dude, no.

2037
01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:09.079
Like when Mom and I went to see Oceans, what

2038
01:32:09.159 --> 01:32:11.159
was the one that was the all female cast eight

2039
01:32:11.279 --> 01:32:11.960
as Ocean's Eight.

2040
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:12.880
I think it was Ocean's eight.

2041
01:32:13.319 --> 01:32:14.880
I went out to the lobby several times because I

2042
01:32:14.920 --> 01:32:16.520
was like, Hey, the movie's really dark. Oh yeah, we'll

2043
01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:17.840
get to that never changed.

2044
01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:19.319
I don't know if it was that they were playing

2045
01:32:19.359 --> 01:32:22.119
it in eco mode yeah, which is what like home

2046
01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:25.680
projectors have, or if it was or if it was

2047
01:32:25.720 --> 01:32:28.199
just that the bulbs were old and dimming. It could be.

2048
01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:31.079
You know, your mileage may vary, but it was still

2049
01:32:31.079 --> 01:32:32.319
fun to see movies in the big screen.

2050
01:32:32.359 --> 01:32:34.720
So the film itself was shot in Virginia and Delaware.

2051
01:32:35.479 --> 01:32:37.920
One of the establishing shots on an ocean wide boardwalk

2052
01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:41.640
was filmed in Rebeth Beach, Delaware. It depicts Dolly's iconic

2053
01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:44.840
and instantly recognizable lighted sign. Dolly's is a known locally

2054
01:32:44.920 --> 01:32:48.359
for their saltwater taffy and long history of Rebideaux Boardwalk.

2055
01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:51.239
Dwight is initially living in his car inside Cape Hanilton

2056
01:32:51.359 --> 01:32:53.840
State Park outside of Los Delaware, a few miles from

2057
01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:55.119
Rebeho beach Man.

2058
01:32:55.479 --> 01:32:57.840
That's wild that they actually shot it where they takes place,

2059
01:32:57.840 --> 01:32:59.840
because yeah, he starts in Delaware and then he goes

2060
01:32:59.880 --> 01:33:02.319
to Virginia where his sisters man they really shot and

2061
01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:03.159
that's really cool.

2062
01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:05.199
I love that blue ruin is a reference to the

2063
01:33:05.199 --> 01:33:07.399
blue and ruined Pontiac, the car home of Dwight.

2064
01:33:08.279 --> 01:33:14.680
I never even ah ah, that's I I never. I

2065
01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:18.199
just thought because blue is like sad, debt, desolate, and

2066
01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:21.520
then there's the ruin of whatever. But that's perfect. The

2067
01:33:21.520 --> 01:33:24.319
blue ruin is the car. Yep, fuck okay, yeah yeah.

2068
01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:27.399
Sawner funded production on the film through a successful Kickstarter campaign,

2069
01:33:27.439 --> 01:33:32.000
which MTD called the perfect example of what crowdfunding can't accomplish.

2070
01:33:31.239 --> 01:33:33.920
Especially because it was still somewhat young. Yeah.

2071
01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:36.079
Ben Gaffney Devin rat Ray is based on a real

2072
01:33:36.159 --> 01:33:38.960
high school friend of director Jeremy Soulner. Solner contacted the

2073
01:33:38.960 --> 01:33:40.640
real Ben while he was writing the script to get

2074
01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:43.720
an accurate representation of Ben's moral views and gun collection.

2075
01:33:44.800 --> 01:33:47.239
I hope to one day be that friend. Yeah.

2076
01:33:47.479 --> 01:33:50.000
At one time, Benny mentions, ducha who got hit by

2077
01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:50.319
a train.

2078
01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:51.279
This is al friendship.

2079
01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:53.560
This is a reference to l Ducha, lead singer of

2080
01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:56.319
punk hardcore band The Mentors, who claimed Courtney Love offered

2081
01:33:56.359 --> 01:33:58.600
him fifty thousand to kill Kurt Cobain. He appeared in

2082
01:33:58.680 --> 01:34:01.640
Nick Broomfield's Curt and Courtney documentary and died under mysterious

2083
01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:03.520
circumstances after he made these claims.

2084
01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:06.239
So that was one of my favorite Easter eggs. I

2085
01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:08.359
didn't remember from the first time I watched it. Yeah,

2086
01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:11.079
was when he says, right around the time Ducea died. Yeah,

2087
01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:14.359
so el Ducha, if I remember correctly, died in nineteen

2088
01:34:14.439 --> 01:34:19.800
ninety seven. Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, he died nineteen ninety seven.

2089
01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:24.960
He was sleeping on railroad tracks. So some people believe

2090
01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:27.920
he may have been murdered. He was in one of

2091
01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:31.880
the most the most deeply like I don't even how to described.

2092
01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:34.199
The BMRC went after the Mentors pretty bad.

2093
01:34:34.399 --> 01:34:37.960
Well. The Mentors, unlike a lot of other groups, they

2094
01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:40.760
relished the idea they were I mean, they called themselves

2095
01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:43.399
the Mentors as an insult. They were like, oh, yeah,

2096
01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:46.319
we're the Mentors. People look up to us. But their

2097
01:34:46.399 --> 01:34:51.239
songs were heinous. They were about not always about violence

2098
01:34:51.239 --> 01:34:52.520
sort of. There were only a few songs that were

2099
01:34:52.520 --> 01:34:55.960
like they were mostly about just total subjugation of women.

2100
01:34:56.840 --> 01:34:59.399
I mean songs like Mother Daughter Team and Suck Me

2101
01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:02.479
for and there. If you like listening to stuff that's

2102
01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:03.560
so bad, it's funny.

2103
01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:07.319
And also that documentary came out recently, the Tapes.

2104
01:35:07.399 --> 01:35:09.920
I watched it. Yeah, and uh, it's interesting because he

2105
01:35:10.039 --> 01:35:15.199
was he was a really odd person. He was not unintelligent, yeah,

2106
01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:17.119
but he was also like he was such a drunk

2107
01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:19.600
that it was hard to tell. He was actually well

2108
01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:22.800
liked for being a guy who was just like not

2109
01:35:22.840 --> 01:35:24.439
only like kind of a piece of shit, but he

2110
01:35:24.439 --> 01:35:28.199
also like wanted to be a piece of shit, Like

2111
01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:30.840
that was his whole thing. Most famously went on Jerry

2112
01:35:30.840 --> 01:35:34.159
Springer with war and but but when people would say, like,

2113
01:35:34.399 --> 01:35:36.199
do you think it's okay if someone listens to your

2114
01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:38.279
music and decides to rape Somebody'd be like, yeah, I

2115
01:35:38.279 --> 01:35:40.319
love it, And people were like frothing at the mouse.

2116
01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:42.359
He was just being he was such a I mean

2117
01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:44.920
the fact that the documentary from twenty fourteen, the Mentors

2118
01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:48.479
Kings of Sleeves, Yeah, I mean yeah, so anyway, but

2119
01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:51.159
I also want to mention that their album they they

2120
01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:54.359
they got back together as a band a few years

2121
01:35:54.399 --> 01:35:58.680
after the Mentors died, and they did a song on

2122
01:35:58.760 --> 01:36:01.159
the album over the Top, which was after he died.

2123
01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:05.039
I believe they did. I know they did a song.

2124
01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:06.239
I can't find the exact name, but they did a

2125
01:36:06.319 --> 01:36:09.600
song called something like Don't Lay on the Yeah, which

2126
01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:11.279
is just like that tells you everything you need to

2127
01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:14.000
know about about the band, about what how they feel

2128
01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:19.720
about just everything. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, Ben.

2129
01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:21.640
Gaffney has a tattoo on his left inner forearm of

2130
01:36:21.680 --> 01:36:24.159
an electric chainsaw, which is a reference to Jeremy Solnder's

2131
01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:25.560
film Murder Party.

2132
01:36:25.319 --> 01:36:28.239
Oh Man That chainsaw all painless yep.

2133
01:36:28.640 --> 01:36:30.800
Jeremy Sounder revealed in A Q and A that the

2134
01:36:30.840 --> 01:36:32.520
reason the Pontiac has bolt holes in it at the

2135
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:34.159
beginning of the story is because it is the same

2136
01:36:34.199 --> 01:36:36.840
car that Dwight's parents were murdered in by Big Wade Cleland.

2137
01:36:37.880 --> 01:36:40.239
I mean, there's a lot to this film. Yeah, I

2138
01:36:40.279 --> 01:36:40.600
love it.

2139
01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:43.000
Ben Twel tells Dwight the speeches will get him killed.

2140
01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:44.960
In the end, Dwight's speech is what gets him shot

2141
01:36:44.960 --> 01:36:48.840
by William and eventually dying Blue ruined temporary faut originally,

2142
01:36:48.960 --> 01:36:51.840
but when the film went to festival, Solner was nervous

2143
01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:53.560
about changing the font, so he didn't. So the font

2144
01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:55.159
at the beginning of the movie was not what he wanted.

2145
01:36:55.159 --> 01:36:56.560
He just kept it when it went to festival.

2146
01:36:56.600 --> 01:36:58.840
Oh that's funny. Yeah, yeah, I didn't want to change it. Well,

2147
01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:01.479
I get that to a spec. Actually, you have your first,

2148
01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:04.079
like real serious hit. Yeah, it's like, I'm not going

2149
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:06.319
to change an an iota. I no, Like, we have

2150
01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:09.079
a hit, I'm not gonna In the immortal words of

2151
01:37:09.119 --> 01:37:10.600
Roger Corman, don't fuck with a winner.

2152
01:37:10.520 --> 01:37:13.399
Kidah, there you go. The opening scene was originally going

2153
01:37:13.439 --> 01:37:15.840
to be more elaborate, with Blair's character avoiding the family

2154
01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:18.439
around the house. However, due to a wire fraud scandal,

2155
01:37:18.479 --> 01:37:20.920
the location was forced to be changed at the last minute.

2156
01:37:21.319 --> 01:37:23.439
Holy crap, Yeah that's a story.

2157
01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:27.039
A five foot camera slider was used for most of

2158
01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:28.600
the shot where Dwright returns to the car. So that

2159
01:37:28.600 --> 01:37:29.960
little slide is a camera slider.

2160
01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:31.159
Oh yeah, it makes sense.

2161
01:37:31.359 --> 01:37:34.279
Sidney Anderson, who plays Officer Eddie, was actually not licensed

2162
01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:36.239
to drive a vehicle in the state, which Sauner wasn't

2163
01:37:36.279 --> 01:37:38.239
aware of until her day of filming. As a result,

2164
01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:40.159
any of her driving scenes caused the car to be

2165
01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:41.239
physically moved around.

2166
01:37:41.319 --> 01:37:43.279
I've had that happen. I've been on movies where an

2167
01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:45.560
actor was like, in the scripture said they drive a car,

2168
01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:47.319
and they're like, I don't have a driver's license. Is

2169
01:37:47.359 --> 01:37:50.760
that a problem? We're like, uh boy.

2170
01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:53.079
The first shot of principal Photography is the scene of

2171
01:37:53.159 --> 01:37:56.079
Dwight buying the map at the store. Okay, the car

2172
01:37:56.199 --> 01:37:58.840
is Sawner's parents' car. The car was in pristine condition

2173
01:37:58.920 --> 01:38:00.800
and required the art department to do their magic to

2174
01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:04.000
it to give it the look of course. Sauner commented

2175
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:05.960
that the lawn drawn out takes of Dwight are key

2176
01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:08.520
to his character and motivation of Dwight being unprepared.

2177
01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:12.800
Yeah. I just have no complaints with how they did anything.

2178
01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:15.560
Handheld camera was used in the bathroom attack scene due

2179
01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:17.960
to the shooting space available, but also made the scene

2180
01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:19.880
more intimate for the attack.

2181
01:38:20.119 --> 01:38:24.520
I would agree, I mean that scene so tense and unpleasant.

2182
01:38:24.800 --> 01:38:28.359
Sandy, the actor who plays Wade Junior, was actually choking

2183
01:38:28.399 --> 01:38:30.760
Macon during the bathroom attack, and Macon had to remind

2184
01:38:30.800 --> 01:38:32.600
him several times that they could just fake it, but

2185
01:38:32.640 --> 01:38:35.199
Sandy choked him a couple more times before Jeerremy Sonder

2186
01:38:35.239 --> 01:38:37.960
had to step in cheez well, I mean you know actors, man,

2187
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:40.840
they'll do that. Yeah, they'll choke you. Originally, the Clevelands

2188
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:42.600
were supposed to come over. One of the Clevelands was

2189
01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:44.920
supposed to come over the hill twa chasing Dwight when

2190
01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:46.560
he pulled over to the side and let William out.

2191
01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:48.039
So originally one of them was still going to be

2192
01:38:48.039 --> 01:38:50.399
coming over the hill running at them, which they had filmed,

2193
01:38:50.439 --> 01:38:51.920
but they took it out the last second because they

2194
01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:53.039
were like, it's kind of silly.

2195
01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:55.159
I like the way they did it. Instead.

2196
01:38:55.520 --> 01:38:58.279
Sawner's daughter's make an appearance in the film as Sam's daughters.

2197
01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:00.840
I mean there are four. Yeah.

2198
01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:03.079
The most expensive effect in the movie was the fake

2199
01:39:03.159 --> 01:39:05.680
leg when Dwight is doing the operation on his leg

2200
01:39:05.720 --> 01:39:06.319
for the arrow.

2201
01:39:06.720 --> 01:39:10.199
I mean, it's I believe it because it's so effective. Yeah,

2202
01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:10.960
it's believable.

2203
01:39:11.119 --> 01:39:13.680
One of Sauner's proudest low budget lighting moments was the

2204
01:39:13.680 --> 01:39:15.880
initial meeting of Dwight and Benny. The two lights are

2205
01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:18.000
used for the mains, while natural lighting is used for

2206
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:19.720
the rest. He also mentioned that the sound in that

2207
01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:21.960
scene was hell because there was a train right above them.

2208
01:39:22.159 --> 01:39:26.000
Ah, the light especially when and sound mixing before AI tools.

2209
01:39:26.079 --> 01:39:29.680
Yeah, the polaroid melting shot in the microwave took over

2210
01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:32.079
a month to complete and cause Jeremy Soner to have

2211
01:39:32.119 --> 01:39:34.720
to reach out to forty different people to get it finalized.

2212
01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:39.800
Okay, Yeah, I don't know why. Mirror filming inside a

2213
01:39:39.840 --> 01:39:44.319
microwave while it's actually going, Yeah, can be tricky because

2214
01:39:44.359 --> 01:39:45.760
you don't want to damage the camera.

2215
01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:48.439
Makes sense, Yeah, mer refracting device was used for the

2216
01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:50.520
finale to mimic the headlights approaching the house.

2217
01:39:50.680 --> 01:39:52.439
Oh yeah, I've seen that trick done before a lot.

2218
01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:56.720
By the way, that's a popular wave of simulating headlights

2219
01:39:56.800 --> 01:39:59.680
driving by in daytime scenes. Yeah. Is you get a

2220
01:39:59.720 --> 01:40:02.560
really strong reflector and you spin it so like if

2221
01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:05.119
you're in, like say a diner, so you could just

2222
01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:07.560
get that little light pass every now and then you

2223
01:40:07.600 --> 01:40:10.199
just slowly spin it and it points the sun. That

2224
01:40:10.239 --> 01:40:12.880
makes sense, It looks It's very convincing. Yeah.

2225
01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:15.359
And finally the legacy shot at the end as we

2226
01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:19.439
pan over the Cleveland's family, that was his legacy shot

2227
01:40:19.479 --> 01:40:21.560
because he wanted it to be the completion of both

2228
01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:23.880
seeing them go through the stages of the family having

2229
01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:25.640
it and with William, and then having William throw the

2230
01:40:25.640 --> 01:40:28.520
gun at the end was the conclusion to the Cleveland's.

2231
01:40:28.319 --> 01:40:32.159
That makes sense. Yeah, do you Even?

2232
01:40:32.279 --> 01:40:42.760
Movie? Will be right back. Welcome back to do You

2233
01:40:43.039 --> 01:40:43.840
Even movie?

2234
01:40:48.800 --> 01:40:50.279
So what are your final thoughts?

2235
01:40:50.359 --> 01:40:52.720
Well? On twenty thirteen's Blue Ruin, did you get anything

2236
01:40:52.720 --> 01:40:53.920
about how they thought it was going to be their

2237
01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:55.920
last film or the last film they did? Oh, because

2238
01:40:55.920 --> 01:40:56.760
that was on the Wikipedia.

2239
01:40:56.840 --> 01:40:58.880
Yeah, No, I didn't get that it he mentioned that commentary.

2240
01:40:59.119 --> 01:41:02.239
Uh yeah, I want to mention that real quick, because

2241
01:41:02.399 --> 01:41:05.119
that's something that really stuck with me. When they wanted

2242
01:41:05.119 --> 01:41:06.840
to make this movie, they kind of felt like they

2243
01:41:06.880 --> 01:41:09.039
hadn't had the success that they would have liked with

2244
01:41:09.079 --> 01:41:11.279
their first film, which I mean, I don't blame them

2245
01:41:11.279 --> 01:41:15.239
for being disappointed. The Friggin' Murder Party such a great film. Yeah,

2246
01:41:15.359 --> 01:41:17.199
But according to this, it said the two wanted to

2247
01:41:17.199 --> 01:41:20.560
make one last film together. Solner said, quote, we embraced

2248
01:41:20.560 --> 01:41:23.039
the fact that we had to wrap up this childhood arc,

2249
01:41:23.520 --> 01:41:26.600
this insane fantasy of wanting to be filmmakers and just

2250
01:41:26.680 --> 01:41:30.359
make a film that was right and true. The concept

2251
01:41:30.359 --> 01:41:32.479
of a revenge story appealed to Sollner, who said it

2252
01:41:32.560 --> 01:41:35.640
was quote just about grounding the film in a very

2253
01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:39.760
mundane scenario that needed so little exposition. The film's plot

2254
01:41:39.760 --> 01:41:41.720
also serves as a critique for Solener of films that

2255
01:41:41.760 --> 01:41:44.760
he enjoyed growing up, in particular violent crime movies of

2256
01:41:44.760 --> 01:41:47.720
the early twenty tens. That quote made him miserable, and

2257
01:41:47.760 --> 01:41:49.840
he said, quote couldn't do a film that was akin

2258
01:41:49.920 --> 01:41:53.479
to those awesome genre spectacles of my youth. In said climate,

2259
01:41:54.920 --> 01:41:58.720
So they thought that this might be their last, the last,

2260
01:41:58.880 --> 01:42:01.760
although not nearly to the level of success. Yeah. I mean,

2261
01:42:01.800 --> 01:42:03.439
I've not made a Hollywood movie. I don't know that

2262
01:42:03.520 --> 01:42:05.560
I will. I don't know that I care too. But

2263
01:42:05.640 --> 01:42:07.439
that's whatever I mean. You know, when somebody knoxsi your

2264
01:42:07.439 --> 01:42:08.640
door with a bag full of money, we'll see how

2265
01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:09.159
I actually feel.

2266
01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:09.600
Fair enough.

2267
01:42:09.720 --> 01:42:13.359
But when I made Depression the movie, I actually thought

2268
01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:15.520
that was probably gonna be my last film ever. Yeah,

2269
01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:17.000
And so I was like, so, I'm just gonna make

2270
01:42:17.039 --> 01:42:18.800
whatever I want. And it was the first film I

2271
01:42:18.840 --> 01:42:22.119
made that was substantially financially successful, which made no sense

2272
01:42:22.159 --> 01:42:25.880
compared to the rest of the prior of my entire career.

2273
01:42:26.199 --> 01:42:28.720
So I really identify with this, like the last one,

2274
01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:30.399
and then all of a sudden, it's like, Okay, everybody

2275
01:42:30.439 --> 01:42:32.079
likes what you're doing. Now keep doing. Yeah, keep doing.

2276
01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:35.039
Uh So I Blue Ruins A buy it? Yeah, cruel

2277
01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:37.359
cruel irony that you can't get a blu Ray easily. Yeah,

2278
01:42:37.399 --> 01:42:40.119
but it's worth owning if you love films. No, that's

2279
01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:42.079
all I got because I've said everything else I need

2280
01:42:42.079 --> 01:42:43.439
to say about that. Yeah. Same here.

2281
01:42:43.520 --> 01:42:46.680
Blue Ruin is just it's the it's the takeaway of

2282
01:42:46.800 --> 01:42:49.800
the non traditional vengeance film that really focuses on the

2283
01:42:49.800 --> 01:42:53.960
realism of it. Really just paints a portrait of what

2284
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:56.880
it is like to decide you're going to do something

2285
01:42:56.880 --> 01:42:58.119
and have to stick it out to the end.

2286
01:42:58.239 --> 01:43:00.239
Yeah. No, definitely, So I really I.

2287
01:43:00.159 --> 01:43:01.560
Really enjoy that. So we always like to end the

2288
01:43:01.560 --> 01:43:04.079
show with a couple of recommendations. My first one this

2289
01:43:04.119 --> 01:43:07.000
week is two thousand and seven's Death Sentence. Darring Kevin

2290
01:43:07.039 --> 01:43:09.560
Bacon Nick Hume is a mild mannered executive with a

2291
01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:12.159
perfect life until one gruesome night he witnesses something that

2292
01:43:12.239 --> 01:43:15.560
changes him forever. Transformed by grief, Hume eventually comes to

2293
01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:17.920
the disturbing conclusion that no length is too great when

2294
01:43:17.920 --> 01:43:21.079
it comes to protecting your family. This movie I cannot

2295
01:43:21.079 --> 01:43:24.399
recommend enough. It's basically his death wish, but it is

2296
01:43:24.439 --> 01:43:27.479
in the sense of breaking down your character to think

2297
01:43:27.520 --> 01:43:29.680
he can do this vengeance, does the vengeance, and then

2298
01:43:29.720 --> 01:43:32.279
completely pulls all the retaliation back on.

2299
01:43:32.439 --> 01:43:33.560
Yeah, that's good. That's a good wreck.

2300
01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:37.159
Yeah. Second recommendation is twenty seventeen Small Town Crime, which

2301
01:43:37.199 --> 01:43:40.439
is currently available on Stars and Fandango. An alcoholic X

2302
01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:42.439
cop finds a woman on the roadside who was left

2303
01:43:42.439 --> 01:43:44.439
for dead. He offers to find the killer pro bono

2304
01:43:44.479 --> 01:43:47.279
as a private investigator. Her granddad hires him, and things

2305
01:43:47.319 --> 01:43:48.000
get nasty.

2306
01:43:48.279 --> 01:43:49.640
That's a phenomenal movie.

2307
01:43:49.720 --> 01:43:50.039
Yeah.

2308
01:43:50.119 --> 01:43:51.960
I remember I bought that on Blu Ray right after

2309
01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:54.079
we finished watching it together. Yet same here, Such a

2310
01:43:54.119 --> 01:43:56.319
good film. Yeah, small Town Crime. Cannot recommend that enough.

2311
01:43:56.319 --> 01:43:58.399
What's your recommendation, sir? I actually have two this week

2312
01:43:58.479 --> 01:44:01.399
because I had I really was thinking of it, and

2313
01:44:01.560 --> 01:44:03.319
I have two movies that kind of gave me a

2314
01:44:03.319 --> 01:44:05.760
similar feel but didn't give me a similar feel. The

2315
01:44:05.800 --> 01:44:09.079
first one is twenty eleven's Killer Joe Good one, Yes,

2316
01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:13.279
I love Killer Joe. It's by William Friedkin, famous for

2317
01:44:13.319 --> 01:44:17.520
the Exorcist. But the description is when a debt puts

2318
01:44:17.560 --> 01:44:19.800
a young man's life in danger, he puts to hitting.

2319
01:44:20.199 --> 01:44:22.720
He turns to putting a hit out on his evil

2320
01:44:22.760 --> 01:44:25.279
mother in order to collect insurance. I feel like that

2321
01:44:25.319 --> 01:44:29.000
movie has a great amount of dread. It's really highly stylized.

2322
01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:32.319
It's not honest. It's scary. Yeah, no, he's terrifying. It's

2323
01:44:32.359 --> 01:44:34.880
not nearly as realistic, but really good. But then the

2324
01:44:34.920 --> 01:44:37.079
other one, and this is one that I like because

2325
01:44:37.319 --> 01:44:39.079
it makes me sick to my stomach a little bit,

2326
01:44:39.479 --> 01:44:43.319
is twenty seventeen's Good Time Good Time is Good and

2327
01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:48.079
that stars Robert Pattinson. It's from the directing team who

2328
01:44:48.119 --> 01:44:50.199
I believe wanted to do Uncut Gems, which is another

2329
01:44:50.199 --> 01:44:52.119
movie that makes me sect to my Saffie Brothers. Yeah,

2330
01:44:52.159 --> 01:44:55.159
the Saft Deep Brothers. After a botched bank robbery lands

2331
01:44:55.159 --> 01:44:58.159
his younger brother in prison, Connie Nika's embarks on a

2332
01:44:58.159 --> 01:45:01.199
twisted odyssey through New York City's to get his brother

2333
01:45:01.279 --> 01:45:02.119
Nick out of jail.

2334
01:45:02.279 --> 01:45:04.960
Line up a light watch after that one, because it's

2335
01:45:04.960 --> 01:45:06.560
going to hit you right in the fucking stomach.

2336
01:45:07.319 --> 01:45:09.800
You'll be fine. So that Good Time is a great

2337
01:45:09.840 --> 01:45:10.199
movie though.

2338
01:45:10.439 --> 01:45:15.399
Also yeah, honorable mentions any of Saulner's filmography. In regards

2339
01:45:15.399 --> 01:45:18.520
to Greenroom, rebel Ridge, you said, hold the Darks fantastic.

2340
01:45:18.600 --> 01:45:19.199
I really liked it.

2341
01:45:19.279 --> 01:45:22.479
Yeah, I cannot recommend green Room enough. Greenroom may be

2342
01:45:22.640 --> 01:45:24.119
my favorite of his so far.

2343
01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:26.039
It's really phenomenal.

2344
01:45:26.079 --> 01:45:27.920
It was originally going to be this episode, by the way,

2345
01:45:27.960 --> 01:45:31.079
but unfortunately green Room is fucking available nowhere right now.

2346
01:45:31.279 --> 01:45:32.560
Saw it three times in the theater.

2347
01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:33.439
I saw it once with you.

2348
01:45:34.800 --> 01:45:35.560
Three times.

2349
01:45:35.560 --> 01:45:37.760
We went to see that in Beaver Creek.

2350
01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:40.640
Yeah. Yeah, I went back to see it in Beaver

2351
01:45:40.680 --> 01:45:41.359
Creek two more.

2352
01:45:41.640 --> 01:45:42.239
That's awesome.

2353
01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:45.000
So no, that's a phenomenal film. So before we get

2354
01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:46.520
out of here, I do want to remind everybody if

2355
01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:48.279
you want to send us an email suggest something you

2356
01:45:48.319 --> 01:45:50.600
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2357
01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:52.760
you can email us at do you even movie pod

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at gmail dot com or go to dooevenmovie dot com.

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There are all kinds of social media things in the

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description or show notes. You can find us on x, Instagram, Facebook,

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wherever you want to find us. We do look forward

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to hearing from you, guys, So send us an email

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or go to dooevenmovie dot com for any and all

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information about the show.

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And that leads us into actually what we're talking about

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next week, because this was an email request, we are

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going to be diving into nineteen eighty five's Tough Turf

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WHI would be a first time watch for you, first

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time for me, currently available on Plex, Pluto TV, and Prime.

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Yes, so make sure you check that out so you

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guys can join me for the first time. And let's

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hope Dave doesn't do us rum.

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It's not gonna be a long good Friday. I'll promise

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you that much.

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You know, looking back, I do like that movie, but

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boy was it a long good Friday.

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I think you just need to check out my new

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four K from Criterion.

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I mean, I've got the system for you. So but well,

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with that all being said, I guess all that's left

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to say, kids is go see Hardeis Yes, and we

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will see you next Tuesday. Problem