Sept. 26, 2025

Cutting Deep into Horror | The Evil Dead (1981) Sam Raimi’s Scariest Film Deep Dive

Cutting Deep into Horror | The Evil Dead (1981) Sam Raimi’s Scariest Film Deep Dive

A Cornerstone of Horror Cinema! Henrique Couto & Rachael Redolfi cut deep into Sam Raimi’s The Evil Dead (1981)—the raw, relentless, cabin-in-the-woods classic that jump-started a whole splatter language. We unpack how Raimi’s scrappy camera...

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Cutting Deep Into Horror
A Cornerstone of Horror Cinema!

Henrique Couto & Rachael Redolfi cut deep into Sam Raimi’s The Evil Dead (1981)—the raw, relentless, cabin-in-the-woods classic that jump-started a whole splatter language. We unpack how Raimi’s scrappy camera attacks, Tom Sullivan’s gnarly makeup/stop-motion, and Bruce Campbell’s live-wire performance forged a cult juggernaut on a shoestring. We also trace the Michigan-to-Tennessee origin story (yes, that Morristown cabin), why the movie’s fever-dream logic still rattles modern audiences, and how the film’s ratings saga (X → NC-17; many releases unrated) fed its outlaw reputation. 
Inside this episode
  • Pure nightmare mode: Why the 1981 original plays it straight—and meaner—than its sequels, leaning into fever-dream momentum instead of jokey splatter.
  • DIY brutality: Tom Sullivan’s prosthetics and stop-motion meltdown; Raimi’s aggressive camera grammar that makes the cabin feel alive. 
  • From Michigan to Morristown: How a Detroit proof-of-concept led to a Tennessee shoot—and the enduring lore around that cabin site. (We discuss the oft-told lightning-strike story and what locals say.) 
  • The ratings fight: Festival buzz, an X rating, later NC-17 notes, and why many home releases stayed unrated—fueling the film’s “forbidden” aura. 

Where to watch (U.S.) — checked Sept 23, 2025
Quick-answer FAQ
  • How scary is it? Very. The film’s been rated X/NC-17 over time for intense gore; many releases are unrated. 
  • Who did the effects? Tom Sullivan handled prosthetics and the famous stop-motion finale. 
  • Where should I watch it tonight? Rent on Prime Video, Fandango at Home, or Apple TV (see links above). 

Hosted by Henrique Couto & Rachael Redolfi, Cutting Deep into Horror blends smart film craft talk with fun, practical-effects geekery—so you can watch smarter (and scream louder).

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Well, you know, now that summer is wrapping up and

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fall is approaching, it's the perfect time to enjoy some nature.

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beautiful trees. Yeah yeah, but what about that over there.

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And the beautiful trees?

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Yeah? So over there, though, is slightly different.

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Well maybe if you consider oh oh oh, what's that?

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you need to just calm down for a second.

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I really freaked down.

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Don't panic, don't pan. Okay, okay, okay, what are you

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trying to get us to join? And sure?

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This podcast is about why horror scares us, what deep, dark,

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secret scary cinema shines a light on. The discussions are

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frank and involve conversations about abuse, trauma, and mental health.

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There are also spoilers, so keep that in mind too. Now,

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sharpen your machetes and straight razors, because this is Cutting

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Deep into Horror.

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Welcome back to Cutting Deep into Horror. I'm your host,

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Enrique Kuto, here with my co host in the Woods tonight,

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Rachel Ridolfi. Rachel, how are you?

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I'm spooked? You definitely and spook?

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You're You're the one looking at a calendar.

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There's a there's a very big difference.

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the twenty sixth, which is the last Friday.

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so much to do.

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And tomorrow's Roushashana.

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so whatever.

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of ballsuper recipe in clutch, But then it's like, why

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even bother? So but to get ready for spoopy season, which,

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of course, I mean, I've been deep in the pit

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of getting ready for spooky season for weeks and weeks

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and weeks now. But we decided to take a look

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at a classic horror film that I actually believe it

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or not. And this may be a controversial opinion, I

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actually think Evil Dead is underrated as a horror film. Yeah,

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nineteen eighty one's Evil Dead written and directed by Sam Raimi.

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I think it was also written by Ivan Ramie, one

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of Sam's brothers. But I do. I really think Evil

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Dead is even better of a horror movie than people

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sometimes give it, because Evil Dead two was a much

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bigger film, big budget, big effects. It was just you know,

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it was all over the place. It was much funnier

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and much sillier. And then of course Army of Darkness,

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which most of my life that was what people were

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most into was Army of Darkness, which I like Army Darkness,

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but unlike Evil Dead and Evil Dead too, Army of

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Darkness would play on an afternoon like on USA Network

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because an it's a kind of a silly, you know,

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black humor, but mostly just humor, horror comedy thing. So

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and nothing against that, by the way, nothing against Army

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of Darkness at all. I do enjoy it, but I

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enjoy the original Evil Dead quite a bit more. Yeah,

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from a horror movie standpoint, I think Evil Dead two

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has some some pretty scary moments, for sure, but it's

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just it has so much of that slapstick in it.

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two feeling kind of uneasy.

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Since I was a young man watching Evil Dead, the

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original Evil Dead, I have felt uneasy.

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And I mean I remember the first time I was

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afraid to Evil Dead because as a lifelong horror fan

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who who had seen night Bar on Elm Street when

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I mean it. I had seen hell Raiser around that time,

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because I remember my first movie related nightmare was because

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I had seen a hell Raiser movie. When I was

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very very young, I used to see clips of you know,

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bits and pieces of all kinds of stuff because of

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Saturday Nightmares on USA at night. Oh yeah, so I

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was into horror movies. But one night when I was

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show because they were on Community Access, they don't have commercials,

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so for the when they would take the break, you know,

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before Creep would come back on, they would play TV

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spots and movie trailers for just cool shit and you know,

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occasionally parody commercials or whatever, and then Creep's intros and

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YadA yadah. So I was just terrified when they played

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the Evil Dead trailer, because it's important to keep in

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mind that Evil Dead's trailer, especially the marketing of Evil

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Dead was not like the most you know, the most

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fun you'll ever have being scared, which I believe was

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the tagline of Evil Dead too. I think I was.

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But it wasn't like selling it as a horror comedy.

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It was called do you know what? The tagline on

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the poster was, No, because I know, because this is

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exciting to reveal to you then, and I want to

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make sure I get it exactly right. So let me

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make sure I put that down Evil Dead original poster.

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I want to make sure I say it exactly the

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way it was. Okay, that's not in English. That doesn't

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help me at all. Very good, Very good. So one

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of the taglines was the ultimate experience in grueling terror.

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Ooh and as an adult looking back, that's extra that's

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an extra great, tight, extra great tagline when you consider

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that it is a grueling movie in some ways. Oh yeah,

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it does make you earn it, you know, because you're

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gonna sit through it and it's gonna be it's gonna

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be a lot. Yeah, and so that was the way

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it was marketed. And the Evil Dead trailer was all

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of the scariest moments where Ashes alone in the cabin

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and you know you hear these laughs in the in

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the night and the dah and him like standing off

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with the low angle shots with the light and him

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grabbing the chainsaw. That was the trailer and then the

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ultimate experience in grueling terror the Evil Dead, and I

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was like, I am so scared. I mean, I have

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to see it, but I am so scared. I was

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sincerely a afraid to watch The Evil Dead because on

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the little box in my bedroom watching Doctor Creep host

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probably House of Exorcism, which was one of my favorite

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episodes of THEIRS. I was just yeah, terrified. So eventually

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I did drag my happy butt over. I want to

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say to the Hollywood Video because I don't think my

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Blockbuster had VHS copies of movies that old anymore.

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Yeah, better have been Hollywood Video.

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Oh yeah, yeah, you're still you're still You're still it's

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still hot for the for the company.

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That on my show.

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Yeah, people people are still so confused when they find

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out that of the two of us, you're the one

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who worked at a video store, not me, but h.

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But we'll talk about how you first saw Evil Dead

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right after this, So Rachel tell us a little bit

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about how what the experience was with you watching the

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first time watching Evil Dead, and then maybe I'll come

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back to what happened when I actually sat down myself

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as a little kid and watched it. Now, had you

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seen Army of Darkness prior?

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my horror aficionado journey, everyone had told me that I

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would absolutely love Army of Darkness because of the campiness,

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because of the black humor, and especially because of the

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special effects in that one, because I'm pretty big into

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stop motion and practical effects and puppets.

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Not just because you're like a re infest nerd that's.

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In there too, Okay, I just want to make sure.

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I just want to make sure.

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So everyone had told me, you know, Army of Darkness,

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You're gonna love it. And when I had mentioned to you, like, hey,

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I'd really like to watch Army of day Darkness, You're like, well,

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we can't start there, No, you have to we have

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to start with the first one. So I believe we

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watched it one of the nights when we had like

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cleared out the living room and made a little like

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pillow fort in front of the TV and waited for

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it to get nice and dark and spooky outside. And

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when you put it on again, it was the beginning

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of my horror journey. So it was wholly new to me,

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the way they set it up, the way they set

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up the haunted house in the woods and cabin. But

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the entire time I was fully entranced because that was

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shortly after we'd watched such staples as like the Texas

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Chainsaw Massacre and Nightmare on Elm Street, and I think, yeah,

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we were getting through the Halloween movies, I feel because

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we had to take that in steps.

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Well yeah, plenty of them.

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But what really struck me is, aside from Texas Chainsaw Massacre,

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which I think does a very good job of this

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Evil Dead was the first horror movie where I felt like,

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not only did they capture the terror and the gore

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of what was going on, but also the sheer confusion

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because Ash through like the first act into like the

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first half of the movie. Ash isn't just the reluctant hero.

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He is totally lost and oblivious as to what is

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going on.

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the reluctant hero and Evil Dead one at all, No,

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not at all, really just the last man standing in

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the first Evil BRD movie, he doesn't really whoop that much.

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But yeah, he just survived.

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Yes, Scotty most of the butt whooping until Scott He's gone,

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and then Ash does just the bare minimum to survive. Yeah.

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massive nerd for Evil Dead movies in particular for a

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very long time, and I when I watch them, you've

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heard me do it. I can't help but remember the

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commentary things because I've watched all of the films with

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commentary multiple times and multiple commentaries. And one of my

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favorite things about the Evil Dead two commentary is that

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Sam Raimie and Bruce Campbell are on it together and

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Sam keeps pointing out how the I can't remember her

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name off the top of my head, the woman who

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shows up that it's her parents' cabin, the archaeologist woman,

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how she really does all of the action and Evil

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Dead two as far as killing dead heites and saving

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everybody until she dies at the end spoiler alert. But

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and he's like, like, he like, and at first like

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he points it out a little bit and Bruce goes, yeah, no,

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you're not wrong, and then Sam's like, yeah, I mean,

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why didn't we use her for the sequel? Why do

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we bother with you? And it's important to keep in

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mind that Bruce Campbell and Sam Raimi have been best

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friends since I believe, like junior higher or even elementary school.

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And when they talk, Sam is always needling Bruce, which

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is extra funny because Bruce is the actor of the

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of the duo, and it goes even deeper because Sam

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Raimi is a writer director. Bruce Campbell's an actor, Ivan Raymie,

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and producer who ended up working with Sam and then

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Ted Raimie I believe. His youngest brother, a younger brother,

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is a very well known character actor. He's been in

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tons and tons of films. He has a pretty solid

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career in his own right, and not just from being

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in Sam Raimi movies, although that didn't hurt, and his

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voice is heard throughout all of the Evil Dead movies

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a ton. In fact, again one of the commentaries. When

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they were like, that's Ted. Ted's in that suit. I

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just don't think elady's walking so anyway. But so it's

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important to keep my like because Bruce is like the

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actor of the group, He's got the biggest ego. Just

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that's just the way it has to be. It doesn't

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work any other way. You know, if you're an actor,

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like everyone should look at me.

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I mean that's kind of why you get into acting, well.

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As to where when you're a director, you're like, I

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have the best ideas, I'm smart, so you know you

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we're all terrible. But but yeah, so so that was

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one of the jokes as they kept pointing out, like

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you're not much of a hero in this actually at all.

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time we watched it I kind of noticed. But on

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this second rewatch, getting ready for the show, like I've

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got more experience, I've seen more horror movies. And I

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do love how evil Ded turns the final girl trope

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on its head because at the end, Ash is the

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final guy and again he he he really doesn't but

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he's not a big bad ass, even like the classic

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one liners that we kind of know and love Ash

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for is not heavily featured heavily.

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It's barely in the first one.

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Yeah uh, which makes and we can possibly talk about this,

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you know, later in the show, but it makes the

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character of Ash in the Evil Dead, makes him more believable,

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more relatable, but it also makes the character character arc

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of Ash throughout the whole Evil Dead universe even more tragic.

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Yeah, I mean, honestly, the only thing I didn't love

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about getting all of the extra background from Ash versus

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Evil Dead, the TV series, which I really enjoyed revisiting

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and completing finally, was I didn't I'd always kind of

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hoped in the back of my mind that the recent

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Ash became so wild and flippant and nuts was that

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he'd been bashed in the head too many times and

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Evil Dead one. I'm not kidding. I actually was always like,

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maybe that's why, because he did get like clocked in

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the head a bunch, Maybe he just kind of became

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it only and then but then when you watch like

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they deep, they dive further back in you find it.

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He was always kind of like a rowdy troublemaker his

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whole life. Yeah, but which is fine. I mean, like

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it's we're talking about a character that's been developed over

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the course of three massively successful in different ways feature films,

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because Army of Darkness was not massively successful at the

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box office, but it was a cult hit. It was

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massively successful on TV. And then three seasons almost thirty

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some episodes of Ash Versus Evil Dead. So that's a

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lot of lore building, you know, for you to have.

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I mean, it's no Star Trek with one hundred and

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seventy seven episodes per series for Next Gen Voyager and

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Deep Space nine, but it's.

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Still a lot. We can't all be Star Trek.

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Okay, don't remind me, but but yeah. So and also

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that Final Girl trope was barely a trope when they

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made the movie. Yeah, and it was just starting to

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hook in eighty three when it had its nationwide theatrical run.

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That was just starting to click. Because now we'd be

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about three Friday the thirteenths in Knight burn Elm Street

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hadn't hit yet, Yeah, which is why Evil Dead they

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reference the Hills of Eyes and not Knight ren Elm Street.

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They referenced Night ren Elm Street in part two.

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Yeah, and I wanted to mention because you pointed out

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the poster last night, and it finally caught my attention

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because again I've got more horror awareness. But then you

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and I started talking about how that kind of created

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a playful tet, a tet between those directors.

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Yeah, between Wes Craven of Nightmare Elm Street and Sam Raimi. Yeah. So,

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if I remember correctly, West started it, but not towards

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Sam by putting a ripped up Jaws poster in a scene,

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if I remembered correctly, in one of his earlier movies,

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maybe in the Last House on the Left, or maybe

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it was or maybe it was Hills of Eyes. So

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then he puts the ripped poster in Evil Dead. So

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then Wes Craven puts Evil Dead on the TV set

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in knight Burn Elm Street. And then in Evil Dead too,

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there's a Freddy Krueger glove in the basement there of yeah. Yeah, so,

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and then in I think that was where it wrapped up.

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But then other times that had shown up. The Necronomicon

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Ex Mortis and the Candarian Daggers show up and Jason

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goes to Hell oh yeah, yeah, which I mean that

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movie is a delightful mess, much like myself. But we'll

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talk more about that right after this.

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So when it comes to Ash and and this stood

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out to me especially last night, But when it comes

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to Ash, I mentioned that he kind of kind of

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sort of falls into the reluctant hero, but that's not

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until further on in the franchise.

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Oh yeah, well, and they start establishing that he's almost

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like the butt of the joke. Yeah. The movies is

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that he is the greatest hero mankind has ever known.

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And it's like, this is your hero.

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He's a total screw up. Yeah, He's like he's like

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beyond a total screw up.

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So you know there's there are you know, established tropes,

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and you and I have talked about, like what an

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absolute horrible nerd. I am a renfair nerd. So I'm

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very much into you know, like the the hero's journey

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as laid out by Joseph Campbell, and so you you

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have these tropes of like the Chosen One, we could

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talk about like Neo and well.

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The Matrix is like so it uses every like all

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of those archetypes. Yeah, yeah, no for real, Like but

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you know what else does? Because I don't want to

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make it sound like I'm crapping on on on the matrix.

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You know what else does? Indiana Jones Star Wars Star.

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Wars as a Heat one hard.

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Yeah, so like I don't. I just want to make

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it really clear that, like there's a reason it's such

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a popular system. Please continue.

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Well, it's a popular system because it works so well. Yeah,

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and it's it's a great you and I have talked

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about like when you're when you're writing, when you're being creative,

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don't think outside the box. Think in the box. You

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want to know what your limitations are, and you want

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to know what kind of framework you're working with. And

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the hero's journey is very nice for that because you

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can go like, no, here's the beat, here's the beat,

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here is the refusal of the call, and then here's

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where the hero has to become the hero.

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Well, I used to always say when people would say like, oh,

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if you're using and if you're using a beat sheet

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to guide where your story does this and that and

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this and that, then it's the how creative is it really?

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And my response to them was, yeah, like what an idiot?

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They put a bell on a telephone. Yeah, so you

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fucking answer it. Sorry, but it's like yeah, yeah, it's

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it gets your attention because the details are what matter

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the most. Yes, but having those beats that people identify

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with that it's tried and true to keeping people's attention,

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that's the best thing ever. Yeah, you know, other than

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you know, good poster and stuff, but like, yeah, so

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it always blows my mind when people get pooh poohy

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about like a beat sheet, which is for those who

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don't know, beat sheet is literally it says like, by

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page ten, this should be happening. By page twenty five,

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this should be happening. By page forty four, this should

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be happening. The beat sheet is meant to help keep

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a movie balanced and keep an audience engaged, but it

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is not. It doesn't write the story for you. It

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just tells you when the story needs to land in

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certain ways. And they're also large swaths in beat sheet

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of literally fun and games for like twenty eight pages.

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So it ain't just the beat sheet that makes the

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story work. It's but that confine helps you hone the

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story and get outside of your own head about where

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those those beats are going to be by knowing like,

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oh well, no matter how much time I put into this,

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no matter how much it becomes my darling, and I

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love it so much, like I really should have this

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beat here.

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Yes, So anyway, so what is cool about Evil Dead is?

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You know, I mentioned how it turns the Final Girl

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trope on its head, and I've mentioned how Ash is

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kind of the reluctant hero, but not really until later.

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What is so cool about Evil Dead is how it

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follows the beats of specific stories, but it also breaks

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rules in very specific ways, such as Ash really never

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gets He never gets in any enlightenment. He doesn't even

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really win at the end of the movie. He just revives,

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which never one it should be pointed out. Sam Raimi

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used to suggest that he hated Ash and that was

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why the movies were the way they were, because like

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that that was the whole point. Was like that he

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treated Ash like not an indifferent god of a hateful guy, aful,

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vengeful god.

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Well look at so Evil Dead one ends again. I

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mean you all know there's a spoiler. You should It

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came out in eighty eighty three, like yeah, yeah, oh well,

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you know I did not say where you could see it.

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Though I apologize that is a cardinal sin. I just

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assume everybody's seen Evil Dead, So if you haven't seen

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Evil Dead, as we dig into some deeper spoilers, it

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is not available to stream anywhere totally free except Pluto TV.

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It appears Pluto TV does have Evil Dead to stream

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for free, so but you could also rent it on

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Amazon Prime, Google Play, Apple TV, and Fandango at Home.

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I really recommend watching Evil Dead. But the end of

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Evil Dead is literally like he doesn't get away, the

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evil gets him, and it's left on it's open ended, yeah,

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but it's it right there on a kind of a

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down note, not like a heavy down note, but pretty

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much a down note. Then Evil Dead two ends with

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literally he gets sucked through a vortex and ends up

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in medieval times, which he had read about in the Necronomicon.

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So now he realizes he's the chosen one who will

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fall from the sky and deliver us from the dead heights,

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which is what the book says. When a guy literally

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yells that it's the who comes from the sky who

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shall deliver us from the dead heites and he goes, no, no, no,

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because he's got to fight the dead heights even more. Yeah,

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And the funniest part is the way they realize that

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that's him is like a flying monster creature flies by

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and he kills it with a shotgun without hesitating, just like,

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you know, screw that thing, you know, hah. And then

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they're like, you've come to Sammys.

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Like, no, no, I don't.

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I just did that because I had to stop. But

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then literally Army of Darkness, which, by the way, they

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did not want to name that movie Army of Darkness.

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They wanted to call it either Evil Dead three or

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The Medieval Dead.

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Oh I would have the Medieval Dead.

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Yeah. Yeah. And Universal Studios, who did not believe in

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that movie much at all, they were like, no, we

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want to call Army of Darkness. They wanted to distance

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themselves from literally what made it what people wanted?

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Oh good?

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Yeah, well they spent a fortune on it, and like

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the leadership change during the production, which happens a lot

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more than you might think. Yeah, but anyway, so in

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that one, though, literally he does everything right. He leads

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everyone to victory, he gets the girl, he does all

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of this badass stuff, and then he forgets the magic

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words to go home. A wizard literally a Merlin type

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tells him, all you have to do is say these

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words and you'll go home. And in the official theatrical cut,

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he's telling that story to actually Ted Raimi in a

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grocery in the s Mark that he works at, and

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he's like, yeah, so that's when you saved all the

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people and he's just like yeah, cool. And then a

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dead ite shows up and he has to kill it

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and he does all his cool, badass Ash stuff. But

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that suggests that because he didn't read the words right

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that time, because he messed it up earlier as well, Yeah,

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which caused the evil to get even more powerful that

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the dead Ights are still around. But in the director's version,

455
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:21.559
Ash has to tell a thing. It has to do

456
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:27.000
the words, and then he will slumber to his to

457
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:33.720
his home time period will slumber without aging. So then

458
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:35.880
he does the thing. He messes up the words. He

459
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:37.559
goes to sleep, and he wakes up and he's got

460
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:41.119
a beard and long hair and the world has been destroyed,

461
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.200
completely ruled over by dead heightes and literally last he says, no,

462
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:51.000
I slept too long. That was the original ending of

463
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:54.400
Army of Darkness. Rachel, Oh my god, that was the

464
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:57.559
original ending, So Ash was like he gets the more

465
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.200
he becomes a hero, the bigger screw up he too,

466
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.279
because he's yeah, he's not that big of a screw

467
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.480
up in the first Evil Dead as we'll get to

468
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:20.839
right after this what just happened. So yes, that was

469
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:25.079
the original ending of Army of Darkness. But but really,

470
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:28.240
when you look at Evil Dead and how Ash fights

471
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:31.119
the Dead heightes, he doesn't fight them very hard Corey

472
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:33.799
really does what he has to do. But yeah, later

473
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.559
in the movies he just gets the cockier and dumber,

474
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.799
which again leads into why my initial theory was head trauma.

475
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:46.160
Having watched the movies with you and watched the series,

476
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.240
I think that's probably a pretty good fan theory.

477
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:54.480
Thank you, so beyond Ash in Evil Dead one, because

478
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:59.400
we'll try to hang close to Evil one. So beyond Ash,

479
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.000
what were your thoughts watching it for the first time?

480
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.319
Because when I watched it for the first time in

481
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.960
my bedroom on a VHS tape, I was very scared.

482
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:13.279
It freaked me out, the makeup, the effects, the insanity

483
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:15.960
of it all. How it did grueling is a really

484
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:18.400
good word. It just kept going and going. It's a

485
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:20.279
because that's the other thing to keep in mind Evil

486
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:22.400
that one and most of people did two is just

487
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:26.200
a tormenting of Ash. Yeah, that's all it's about, you know.

488
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.359
Army of Darkness isn't constant torment of Ash. There's only

489
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:31.119
a couple of scenes like that. But Evil Dead one,

490
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:35.319
it's like, by the halfway point, it's mostly tormenting Ash. Yeah,

491
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:40.160
so it's there you go, you know, But I just

492
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.519
remembered finding it really scary. But I really enjoyed it.

493
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:45.599
I enjoyed how much it freaked me out. And one

494
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.279
thing about Evil Dead that I don't know. That is

495
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:50.039
one of the reasons I'm willing to say that I

496
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:55.359
think it's underratedly scary good is actually some of the

497
00:28:55.400 --> 00:29:00.279
amateurish moments I think work in its favor very well,

498
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:05.880
especially on VHS. I will say that this movie has

499
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.640
not done a lot of favors by being like we

500
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:11.640
watched it on one hundred and twenty inch screen in HD.

501
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:14.599
It doesn't do it a ton of favors. You see

502
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:18.200
every single crack, every single edge, and there are a

503
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.400
ton of them. Stopped. I stopped pointing out like how

504
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.240
many times you can see like the fingers going through

505
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:25.960
the makeup and stuff because it's just constant and they

506
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.359
made this movie for basically nothing. The Internet claims that

507
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.440
it was made for three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.

508
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:36.680
That is not the case. That is probably adjusted for inflation,

509
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.279
but also the post production funds that they probably raised

510
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.240
after the fact, which were probably over one hundred thousand dollars,

511
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.680
and that is not uncommon, especially back then Blair Witch Project,

512
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.519
which famously costs like twenty thousand dollars or some shit,

513
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:53.440
they spent almost two hundred thousand dollars getting the soundtrack okay,

514
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.440
for theatrical screenings back then, you gotta remember this nineties,

515
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.599
So they couldn't just run it through you know two

516
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.759
me you know recording software is would be like cool. Yeah,

517
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:06.759
they had to do all that stuff. Well, they had

518
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:10.759
to pay for it, So that's just another thing worth mentioning.

519
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:14.079
But so I think that the fact that there are

520
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:18.599
scenes where there's a demon, a person possessed by a

521
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.160
dead eite, and in the next shot their makeup is

522
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.519
different or they're literally like their makeup is heavier and

523
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.039
they're played by a different person. Now, I actually think

524
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.000
that especially on VHS where like it was there wasn't

525
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:35.599
a lot of details, so you'd really question it even yase,

526
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:38.799
why do they look different? It actually adds to the

527
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:44.000
kinetic and frenetic insanity of the idea that like Cheryl

528
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:49.799
in the basement, looks different between moments, but always evil

529
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:50.480
and crazy.

530
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:52.599
What happened to her eyes?

531
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:57.079
Yeah, what happened to her eyes? But but that's that's

532
00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:59.559
something that I think really does play to its favor,

533
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:03.559
is the way that the continuity doesn't really hold for

534
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.119
the makeup. I find it scarier, especially back then, because

535
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:08.400
I didn't know if it was an accident or not,

536
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:10.799
and I don't care. Yeah, and some of them may have.

537
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:12.400
I mean some of them were accidents. Some of them

538
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:15.799
were unintentional because sometimes they literally just didn't have the person,

539
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:19.880
so they just put mostly ted Raimi in a heavy

540
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.079
mask and be like you're Cheryl now, you know, like

541
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.960
they would do that, They would do that. So I

542
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.079
think that that adds a lot to that sense of

543
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:29.559
kind of like insanity.

544
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:34.599
Oh, I absolutely agree, And we've you and I have

545
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:39.039
had personal discussions, especially when we're watching Italian horror about

546
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:43.359
nightmare logic. Yes, and this is an American released movie

547
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:47.640
that because of how unpolished. It is because of the

548
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:52.920
rough edges. It feels like it follows much more of

549
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:58.200
a nightmare logic than, say, you know, even a Nightmare

550
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:00.960
on Elm Street, which should fall allow a nightmare logic.

551
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.880
But it well, the whole movie isn't a nightmare though. Yeah,

552
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:09.599
there's very well, slowly less clear delineations between reality and

553
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:11.960
nightmares and nightmare Elm Street. But no, I get what

554
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.039
you're saying, And no, but it does. It feels like

555
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:16.160
a like a fever dream. It feels like just an

556
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.559
absolute nightmare where things get worse and worse and worse.

557
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.000
One of my favorite descriptions I've ever seen of Evil Dead,

558
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.599
if I, if I could find it real quick, was

559
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:30.480
was on Wikipedia. It says, you know, four members of

560
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.920
the group suffer from demonic possession, forcing the fifth member,

561
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:36.960
Ash Williams, to survive an onslaught of increasingly gory mayhem.

562
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:38.319
Yeah, that is.

563
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.920
Such a great way to put it, increasingly gory mayhem.

564
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:43.319
That's putting it lately.

565
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:48.319
Yeah, Oh, and real quick because I mentioned the budget.

566
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:53.960
Originally they raised about ninety thousand dollars all in from

567
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:59.279
dentists and lawyers local in Michigan and the one of

568
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.559
the last and ess they had to bring on was

569
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:03.759
to do a what they call a film blow up.

570
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.559
It's where you convert sixteen millimeter film to thirty five

571
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:10.440
millimeter films so it can be projected in an average theater.

572
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:13.680
It's very expensive. Back then, it was like it was

573
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.799
like it could be like ten twenty grand depending on

574
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.680
how much work he had to do, and it was

575
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.960
really important. And I love this story because Bruce Campbell

576
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:25.200
talks about how they ended up coming up with the

577
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:30.400
money because his dad had just gotten divorced and was

578
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.920
kind of like depressed and just kind of doing whatever

579
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.079
and whatever. So he came to it was just like dad, Dad, like,

580
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:39.759
is there any way we could you could help with this?

581
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:41.720
It's like, I don't know, like he was a dad,

582
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:45.200
but it's so important, Like couldn't you couldn't you do it?

583
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.759
So his dad ended up like so they went to

584
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.359
the bank and his dad took a loan out on

585
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:56.319
their like upper up, upper Peninsula of Michigan cabin. He

586
00:33:56.359 --> 00:34:00.119
took a loan against it and did that. And it

587
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:01.799
was funny because his dad was like, okay, whatever, and

588
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:03.559
he was like and Bruce was like, I literally felt

589
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.480
bad because I was like taking advantage of my dad

590
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.079
who was just like depressed and miserable, but we needed

591
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.079
this to happen, and he's like yeah, and then Dad

592
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:12.280
wasn't so mad when we you know, as a as

593
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.440
a pittance, we said we'd pay him back and we'd

594
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:18.039
give him three percent of the movie. Oh, he say,

595
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:20.639
my father has been depressed for a while. Because that

596
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.480
was a lot of money. I mean, Evil Dead in

597
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:27.239
the box office estimated it making almost twenty nine point

598
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:32.119
four million dollars, and unlike Texas Chainsaw Massacre, they didn't

599
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:36.119
get heavily ripped off, so they saw most of that

600
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.719
money good, most of it, most of it. So, I mean,

601
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:42.719
you know, Wes Craven could say a lot more about

602
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.400
Bob Shay than I could, but I owned a New

603
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.400
Line cinema. But we'll dive deeper into the Evil Dead

604
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:50.320
right after this.

605
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:07.239
So what I think was the scariest and kind of

606
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:13.719
left the biggest impression to me when I first watched

607
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:18.119
Evil Dead with you not not It wasn't just Ash

608
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:23.639
and it wasn't just the carnage that he witnesses and

609
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:29.920
partakes in with his friends. It was also you know,

610
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:32.880
how you know how much I love world building in movies,

611
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.880
and it was that they gave us this, this glimpse,

612
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:43.000
this little taste of a very very awful, horrible evil

613
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:48.559
world and all of the all of the history around it,

614
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.320
but not enough to settle any of the questions that

615
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.079
we may have had, or at least that I had

616
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:59.079
on my first watch. And that made it even scarier,

617
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:04.760
because the fear of the unknown is one of the

618
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.199
big things that you know, I love in horror, and

619
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:12.360
I feel like in other franchises that we had been

620
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:16.280
watching at the time, it feels like the killer was

621
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:20.360
at least well established, But with this we don't know

622
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.400
if the killer is just strictly the woods. Is it

623
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.079
the woods are evil because of the evil around it,

624
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:32.239
or is the evil coming from elsewhere and infecting just

625
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:36.159
the cabin and the area around it. This first movie

626
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.599
really doesn't give us much to go off of other

627
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:42.920
than there is evil and it's coming to get you.

628
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.559
But it's coming to get you, especially when you're alone.

629
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:49.639
Well you're forgetting though, and the book summons it, and

630
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:51.920
the book summons I mean, that's the biggest thing, Like, yeah,

631
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.840
the evil's coming from all kinds of places because of

632
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:57.960
the book, because of reading from the book. Yeah, so

633
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.440
I think that's worth mentioning, because I mean it is,

634
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:02.360
But it is fair to point out that, you know,

635
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:03.840
the opening of the film, and this is a great

636
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.039
way to just jump right into the opening of the movie.

637
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.679
It opens with a group of kids heading out into

638
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:13.840
the wilderness to camp in a remote cabin in Tennessee

639
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.159
mm hm. And while they don't say it, it's pretty

640
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.400
clear they're all from Michigan because half of them are

641
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.320
wearing like Michigan State University sweaters and stuff like that,

642
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:26.280
and they were in real life from Michigan. And as

643
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:29.039
they're as they're making their drive, one of the first

644
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.320
things we see before we even see them is the

645
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:36.719
evil zooming around which they which they filmed by creating

646
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.760
a camera rig that was made out of two by

647
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:41.760
fours that would allow them to hold the camera down

648
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:43.679
by their feet so they could run around. They call

649
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:44.800
it the Ramo Camp.

650
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:47.159
The Ramo cam, and well they made much.

651
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:50.639
More advanced Ramo cams later, but it allowed them to

652
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:52.639
run around with the camera super low to the ground

653
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.760
and get those kinds of raw yeah things, the evil

654
00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:01.480
classic evil dead, you know, running around thing ow hit

655
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.280
my hand on the table. But so we see that.

656
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:08.000
So we've established there's already evil out there, you know,

657
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:10.960
watching them and stuff. And then as they're driving along

658
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:14.280
they almost get into a car accident. There's some funny lines.

659
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.719
We kind of get to know the characters. We realize that,

660
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:21.119
you know, we have Scottie and Shelley who are a couple,

661
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:26.360
and then we have Ash or Ashley williams Ash with

662
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:29.119
his girlfriend Linda, and then we have Cheryl, who is

663
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:32.559
Ash's sister, and they're on their way and I love

664
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:35.960
the way they reveal Cheryl, by the way they literally

665
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:40.000
have a two shot of Ash and Linda talking wide

666
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:41.840
angle two shot and then at one point they just

667
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.079
tilt over and show her. It makes her feel like

668
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.039
a third wheel, Like you're like, oh, you're here too.

669
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.079
She really is. I mean she's there with two couples

670
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:53.599
to hang out. So but yeah, so they're just kind of,

671
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:57.559
you know, talking about kind of normal teenager stuff. I

672
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.880
mean they're all in college or or you know, starting

673
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:03.280
college or whatever, and they're talking about, you know, how'd

674
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:05.239
you get the cabin so cheap? Which I do love.

675
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:06.719
He's like, I don't know, I mean, it could be

676
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.079
in really bad shape. And that's actually that's when they

677
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:12.320
reveal Cheryl, because it depends on she goes none of

678
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:14.639
you have seen it before. Yeah, And all I could

679
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.159
think was, yeah, they drove down to Tennessee just to take.

680
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:18.800
A seape it out the way back.

681
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:20.920
Yeah, yeah, or they or they are they They were like,

682
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:22.840
I'm gonna send you twenty five bucks, go buy a

683
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.800
polaroid camera. Mail me, mail me a picture.

684
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:30.159
Yeah, things were wild before an airbnb dude.

685
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.639
Well they're still wild with abynb. But so they they

686
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.800
almost get run off the road and there is a

687
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:41.559
suggestion that something otherworldly could have been messing with their car,

688
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:45.400
but it's very very suggested. It's not yeah pushed at all.

689
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:49.639
So they make their way across this very nerve wracking

690
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:53.599
bridge which goes over a cliffs cliff face so that

691
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:55.920
they can get to the cabin, and they start driving

692
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:58.639
through the woods and they're getting deeper and deeper into

693
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:00.920
the woods. It's a great shot the cameras up high

694
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.639
from the bed of a pickup truck pointing downward to

695
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:06.920
show them just entering the woods and the woods becoming

696
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.480
more and more of everything. You can see, which is

697
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:11.480
one of my favorite little moments in the whole film.

698
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.679
And as they arrive at the cabin, it does feel

699
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.960
a little devious, I mean just the look of it

700
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:23.480
for some reason. But houses are that way. Windows always

701
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:28.039
look like eyes. We look for faces and everything, so

702
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.079
we look for eyes, we look for faces. But one

703
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.360
of my favorite things is how subtle the idea that

704
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.280
something's not right at that cabin because they as they

705
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:41.840
pull up, there's a porch. It's a swing, right, porch swing.

706
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:44.360
That's not really what they're called when they're two, when

707
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:46.039
they're a bench swing or is I.

708
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:47.559
Think it's a bench swing, or you can just call

709
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:48.360
it a porch swing.

710
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:53.239
It's sitting there and it's bumping into the wall. It's

711
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:58.280
just bump, bump, bump, and then it stops.

712
00:40:58.440 --> 00:40:59.760
Right as they get to the doorframe.

713
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:03.679
Oh yeah, yeah, right as they touched it just bump, bump, bump,

714
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:06.559
and it doesn't come back and hit And I remember

715
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:10.840
the first time I watched that being so creeped out

716
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:15.480
by that. Yeah, that hit me like a sack of bricks.

717
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:17.960
Well cause the first time I watched it, I think

718
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.159
I was under the impression that that was like the

719
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.840
start of a beat to the soundtrack. Oh yeah, And

720
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:26.440
then as the as the camera pulled out, I was like, no, no,

721
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:29.360
that's a sound effect, and that's very creepy and effective

722
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.800
because my brain was primed for creepy music and suddenly no,

723
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:37.440
it's just atmosphere. Period, very very good.

724
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:40.039
Well, and later on we have similar things. They do

725
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:41.679
that with a clock, where a clock is ticking and

726
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:46.000
it just stops. I love that stuff. It puts you

727
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:49.280
on edge and puts you out of the realm of

728
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.639
what is normal. And I think that was some stuff

729
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.559
that really established what's going on and what people would

730
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:59.440
be expecting. So then as they enter the cabin, it's

731
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:03.800
just kind of dusty, and you know, there's animal heads.

732
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:05.599
It was an old hunting lodge, and in real life

733
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.239
it was a hunting lodge by the way. In fact,

734
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:11.519
if you want, Rachel, when we get back from this break,

735
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:17.280
I'll give you the serious dirt on the cabin, because

736
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:20.039
there is a lot of interesting stuff about the cabin

737
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:20.639
in real life.

738
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:21.840
Oh I'd love to hear it.

739
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:25.760
So I'll run. I'll do, hopefully a relatively simple rundown

740
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:29.480
about the cabin where they shot Evil dead in Morristown, Tennessee.

741
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:45.039
Right after this. All right, so we're back and we're

742
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:48.400
talking about Evil Dead, and I was teasing that I

743
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:52.320
could share some really cool insight into the cabin in Morristown,

744
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.159
Tennessee that they filmed at, because there is a lot

745
00:42:55.159 --> 00:43:00.280
of interesting stuff it was originally it had been most

746
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:03.679
recently used as a hunting cabin, but it has a history,

747
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:06.199
and I thought it would be fun to let you

748
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:12.239
hear it from Sam Raimi's own mouth. Ooh yes, so yeah,

749
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.840
so we'll queue that up right now.

750
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.519
And it worked out very well. Finally that Loko cal

751
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:22.960
tell the story of the cabin, the horror story this, Well,

752
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:26.239
it's funny you should say that to him because there

753
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:28.920
is in fact a little known horror story that takes

754
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.199
place in the cabin that we shot Evil Dead in.

755
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:37.280
This cabin was built about one hundred years ago, and

756
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.159
the man who built it died maybe a week after

757
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:44.199
he built the place. It's located in this valley surrounded

758
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:46.239
by these mountains that have an incredible amount of iron

759
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:50.599
ore in them, so that during thunderstorms, most of the

760
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.840
lightning bolts are attracted to this valley. So it's really

761
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:58.000
an incredible thing to see when you're there during a storm. Well,

762
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.920
no one lived in this cabin for the next twenty years,

763
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:04.599
and it was probably around nineteen ten or so when

764
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:08.360
a family of three moved into the place, a mother, daughter,

765
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:12.880
and a grandmother, so really three generations of women. They

766
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.639
one night, during a thunderstorm, this little girl woke up

767
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:20.320
and she was scared by all the lightning happening around

768
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:23.920
the cabin, so she ran into her mother's room and

769
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:25.840
pulling back the covers to climb into bed with her,

770
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.320
she found that her mother was dead. While she was

771
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:32.440
so frightened, she ran screaming into her grandmother's room and

772
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:36.679
somehow that same evening she had died also during the night.

773
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.400
They still don't really know why both of these women

774
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:44.000
would simultaneously die in this place. Well, the little girl

775
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:47.360
ran out into the storm about four miles to the

776
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:51.639
nearest farmhouse, through this raging thunderstorm, out to the night,

777
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:55.480
and they found her screaming, banging on their doors, and

778
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:58.119
they brought her inside and they got the story from her. Well,

779
00:44:58.119 --> 00:44:59.599
they took care of her after that, and no one

780
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:04.079
lived in the cabin since this woman, this older woman

781
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:08.360
during thunderstorms. After that I mean this younger woman who

782
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.960
is now an older woman, but the little girl Sally.

783
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:15.880
It's really a scary story if you can get to

784
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:18.719
the end of it. The people at the farmhouse raised

785
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:21.159
this little girl. She had never been the same since,

786
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:25.239
and during thunderstorms she would oft oftentimes wander off from

787
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:27.480
this cabin and they would find her wandering around in

788
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:31.840
the woods and sometimes Well, here's where we come into

789
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:34.800
this story. The Tennessee Film Commission said, yes, we've got

790
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.199
this one cabin that's knocked the cows have knocked down.

791
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:40.400
It's full of dung, he dung, but you can use it,

792
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:43.320
but it's haunted. We said, well, it sounds fun, so

793
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:47.639
we went there. As we were shooting, the fella from

794
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:50.559
this farm came by and he said he told us

795
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:53.679
the story of exactly what happened, and how his folks

796
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:55.280
had taken in this little girl who is now a

797
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.519
very old woman, and that because there had been this

798
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:01.280
thunderstorm the night before, he was looking for this woman

799
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.639
because it's possible she had returned to this cabin. And

800
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.719
as far as we know, they never found the woman

801
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:11.079
while we were down there shooting, and she could still

802
00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:15.280
be roaming those woods. Around Morristown, Tennessee. The strange, strangest

803
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:17.440
part of the story is that a week after we

804
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:21.000
left the cabin in Tennessee, as reported by the Tennessee

805
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:23.840
Film Commission, a boult of lightning hit the cabin and

806
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:24.719
that burned to the ground.

807
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:32.280
Yeah. Whoa that is from Sam Raimi's own mouth. WHOA,

808
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:38.039
so that is? I mean, what are your first thoughts?

809
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:42.960
I mean, honestly, I'm kind of wondering if the farm

810
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:44.719
guy was like pulling their legs.

811
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.320
That is kind of ridiculous. No, why would why would

812
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.320
a farm person lie when you have a perfectly good

813
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.360
liar in Sam Ramie. You made that entire story up.

814
00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:00.920
None of that was true, not a li of it.

815
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:06.119
The cabin did burn down two or three years later. Okay,

816
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:10.159
So he made that story up. And the best part

817
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:13.559
is he didn't just tell it at random interviews. I

818
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:16.519
don't know exactly where that interview came from. Originally, it

819
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:21.239
was actually in the play bill for the premiere screening

820
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.440
in Detroit of Evil Dead. It was written out this

821
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:28.679
whole ghost story, and the idea was just to spook

822
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:33.159
people a little extra, I guess, yeah, because that scary

823
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:37.440
story is really nothing like what you get the kind

824
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:39.840
of scary stuff you get from evil Dead. It's much

825
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:43.800
more of like a traditional creepy ghost story. He tells

826
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:46.000
it masterfully, aside from when he starts to break for

827
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:49.199
a second there. But I love it because it is

828
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.679
total bullshit. And I didn't hear that ghost story until

829
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.480
about a year ago, so I already knew the actual

830
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:57.480
story of the cabin, So I was like, what the

831
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.599
hell is he talking about? Like, I know people who've

832
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:05.719
went and seen the foundation of that cabin. In reality,

833
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.159
I don't know his name off the top of my head.

834
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:10.480
It doesn't really matter. They had rented that cabin from

835
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:12.639
a guy. It was his hunting cabin. He'd built it

836
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:14.840
years and years ago, was in pretty rough shape, and

837
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:16.079
he was like, yeah, you can kind of do whatever

838
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:17.360
you want with it. You just can't like burn it

839
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:19.480
down or rip the walls out, but you can do

840
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:21.880
kind of whatever you want with it. It's fine because

841
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:25.559
I'm either gonna redo it or I'm gonna tear it

842
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:28.280
down and build a new one. So they filmed there,

843
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:30.320
and the other funny thing is that one of the

844
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:31.719
reasons I knew it was bullshit is but he said

845
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:34.079
when we left there it burned down. They filmed that

846
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:37.320
movie over the course of like two years. They would

847
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.760
come down for like three or four days and then

848
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:41.000
they have to come back up and they would do

849
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:43.559
all their prepping and Detroit and they would and they

850
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:45.920
would also film, like all the basement scenes were shot

851
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:47.519
in Michigan, so they didn't have to be down there

852
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:50.000
for it. They shot every scene with like Cheryl in

853
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.280
the woods because she was one of their childhood friends.

854
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.400
All the scenes where Ash was alone in the basement especially,

855
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.639
those were all done in Detroit. But then you know,

856
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:02.719
all the scenes where Ash was alone, that was just

857
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:06.039
them coming down, you know, because because Bruce Campbell's their

858
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:09.840
buddy and they're making a movie. So they didn't film

859
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:12.559
like for two weeks straight or whatever. They came down

860
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.119
again and again. Basically they would either run out of

861
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:18.719
money or run out of things to film with the

862
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:21.400
amount of time they had allotted, you know, because you'd

863
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.960
only you know, it is on a set, like you

864
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:25.800
could film and film and film, but eventually you'll run

865
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:27.239
out of things to film. You'll be like, oh, well,

866
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:29.800
we don't have this prop or this location or this actor,

867
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.559
so we can't keep filming. Yeah, like, it doesn't make

868
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:37.280
any sense. So in reality, what happened was they filmed there,

869
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.760
they wrapped up, the guy ended up using it as

870
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:45.000
a hunting lodge still just kind of occasionally, and after

871
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:48.079
Evil Dead came out, the word spread Because the other

872
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:49.920
thing that is hilarious about is he says the Tennessee

873
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:54.920
Film Commission he was never even on their radar. They

874
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:57.280
were filming the movie in that cabin, and they were

875
00:49:57.320 --> 00:49:59.480
staying in a house over the hill behind it where

876
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:01.840
there was a new housing developments. They had they had

877
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:03.840
a house they were renting there. I don't exactly know

878
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:06.800
how they knew about the cabin or why they went

879
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:09.719
to that part of Tennessee, that part don't I don't recall,

880
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:12.800
but you know, things get around, Yeah, you know, people

881
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.679
kind of hear things. So they filmed at this cabin

882
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:18.000
that was kind of in the middle of nowhere, but

883
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:21.920
not really because one side faced out to basically nothing,

884
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:23.280
but then there was a hill and then there was

885
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.800
a town, like they weren't actually that far away. There

886
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:28.079
were great stories about how they would go to the

887
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:31.480
local general store and buy like all of the carrow

888
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.960
syrup and food die they had and they'd be like,

889
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:36.639
what are you guys doing out there begging a real

890
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:37.199
big cake?

891
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:39.360
Sure?

892
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:41.320
Sure, well, I mean they.

893
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:42.719
You know, they said to buy the stuff they know.

894
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.760
So but like it wasn't a total secret they were

895
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:48.400
making a movie there because they did bring ten twenty

896
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:50.920
people sometimes were coming out there and staying at this

897
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.480
house that I guess a friend of theirs lived there.

898
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:57.119
So yeah, they were filming out there for a really

899
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:00.800
long time, on and off. And you can kind of

900
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:03.639
tell because especially Bruce Campbell, like he does look a

901
00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:06.519
little older as time goes on in it, and then

902
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:11.559
and then younger again though too. So yeah, but yeah,

903
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:14.400
total total bullshit that was. He made that up to

904
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:16.559
spook people. I think he did a really good job.

905
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:21.119
I think he's super good creepy story. But in reality,

906
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:25.000
when word got out of where the cabin was, people

907
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:31.119
started trying to visit, and apparently people were visiting and

908
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:33.920
the guy who owned it was getting really mad about it,

909
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.039
and he had put up like no trespassing size even

910
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:37.920
put up things like you know, you may be shot,

911
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:41.719
you know, because it's private property of a hunter. And

912
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:48.199
eventually the cabin burned down and for years people thought, oh, well,

913
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:50.440
you know, some kids were like partying out there, and

914
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:53.280
just like when he got out of hand or whatever.

915
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:56.880
Well for a little after a while had passed, the

916
00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:58.760
owner admitted that he and his son went out there

917
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.280
and burned it down because they didn't want people coming

918
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:06.079
there because the woods are trapped. Oh, and they were

919
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:10.320
afraid of somebody breaking a hand or an ankle or

920
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:14.480
a toe en swing. Oh, because it was literally an

921
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:19.320
active hunting area and they were trapping as well as hunting.

922
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.000
So they burned it down and it only sort of

923
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:25.440
stopped people from coming to Now people still go to

924
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:30.199
see the goddamn foundation because that's how freaking awesome evil

925
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:34.800
dead is and how it refuses ironically enough to die.

926
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:49.800
And we'll talk more about it after this. So the

927
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:57.760
kids are at the cabin, the not haunted cabin, well irl,

928
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:02.039
not haunted, just a place. And it's not the worst

929
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:04.920
looking cabin, but it is rough. And if you've ever

930
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.519
stayed at a hunting like a legitimate hunting lodge there,

931
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:11.159
they're utilitarian. Oh, it has running water, it has a bathroom,

932
00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:14.719
it's got beds. It's got beds. It's pretty pretty decent.

933
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:17.000
It's got a very big living room of a nice

934
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:20.000
little common area. It's got a workshd to the side.

935
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:23.280
There's a lot going on there. Fireplace that's nice fireplace

936
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:25.000
which does not look up to code. I think they

937
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:28.199
might have put that fireplace in themselves, the filmmakers. I mean,

938
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:30.920
I don't recall for sure, but I think they might

939
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:31.519
have because.

940
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:33.440
They get You should get Michelle on that so she can.

941
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:35.639
Tell Yeah, I don't think that place would pass any

942
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:36.679
kind of inspection.

943
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:39.760
But that's the sequel I want, is Michelle in The

944
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:40.360
Evil Dead.

945
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:45.159
Just yeah, these sockets are not supposed to drip human

946
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:48.440
blood like they really shouldn't be. They shouldn't be dripping

947
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:51.239
any kind of blood, but human blood is a particular trouble.

948
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:55.440
So they're they're there. They're gonna cook some food, They're

949
00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:57.400
gonna hang out, They're gonna have a great time. They're

950
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:00.360
gonna have some wholesome fun, you know. They're like I said,

951
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.400
there's two couples, and then there's the third wheel Cheryl

952
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:06.079
and one thing I noticed upon a rewatch. And God

953
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:08.119
only knows how many times I've seen this movie, by

954
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:10.239
the way, I mean i've seen it. I really would

955
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:12.480
watch it again and again. I remember how exciting. It

956
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.119
was when the DVD came out. Oh yeah, and I

957
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.000
got the Book of the Dead edition, which I still

958
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.800
have the book which my I'm lucky mine hasn't rotted

959
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:22.599
because they've started rotting because they're made out of silicone

960
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:26.039
I think it or latex. Oh yeah, and mine signed

961
00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:29.599
by the Ladies of the Evil Dead. The actress played Cheryl,

962
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:31.320
the actually played Linda, and the actress played Shelley.

963
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:32.239
Oh wow.

964
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:34.760
Yeah, they were doing a tour of the calling themselves

965
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.760
the Ladies of the Evil Dead in the early two

966
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:38.840
thousands when it came out.

967
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:39.840
Oh fun.

968
00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:42.760
Also signed by Tom Sullivan. But he of our who

969
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:44.679
did the special effects and all the art.

970
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:46.960
On Evil Dead and is just such a sweet guy.

971
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:49.280
He is a hoot and a half. He's a great dude,

972
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:51.800
and and he really did a great job. And I

973
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:53.320
want to point out, like when I say like that,

974
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:55.159
a lot of times the makeup was messed up and stuff.

975
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:59.199
They were kids. Yeah, it's really worth mentioning they were kids.

976
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:03.440
Well, this is a movie. This is a movie that

977
00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:08.079
if you're in filmmaking, it is a great example of

978
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:14.440
what drive and Moxie can really accomplish. Oh, there's a

979
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:18.199
lot of drivingnoxy in it. So they're they're at this

980
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:21.519
They're they're hanging out the cabin. Cheryl is is drawing,

981
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.519
which she was sketching in the car, and this is

982
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:27.840
where we start to see something is not quite right.

983
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:31.880
Oh wait, I'm sorry, I skipped ahead.

984
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:36.239
That foreshadows the book. So as she's drawing, all of

985
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:39.400
a sudden she starts to go kind of crazy and

986
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:42.320
she draws an image of a book of the Book

987
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:44.239
of the Dead, which we'll discover in a short bit.

988
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:46.559
But she basically draws like a very basic sketch, but

989
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:48.400
not holding the pen like she's drawing. It's like she

990
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:50.760
can't help you draw. She's holding it like a like

991
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:56.199
a knife. And that sequence always like really freaked me out.

992
00:55:56.440 --> 00:55:59.920
Yeah, well, as an artist, it freaks me out, like

993
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:03.239
especially because I start to connect with Cheryl a little

994
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:08.760
bit looser. But there is uh I can't even remember

995
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:14.519
the term, but there's that whole idea in in the

996
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:18.679
paranormal investigation, where like you can lose control and you'll

997
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:22.079
start like writing or drawing things that the spirits want

998
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:24.440
you to. And I thought that was a really great

999
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:31.000
introduction to the fact that being alone or isolated almost

1000
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:33.159
guarantees that you're gonna get possessed.

1001
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:35.119
Yeah, because because.

1002
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:37.400
They haven't even like really summoned the evil. The evil's

1003
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.840
just kind of out there, and the moment she's alone

1004
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:44.760
is when it takes over, and she's very disturbed by it.

1005
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:47.320
Like you can tell she wants to stop drawing and

1006
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:48.199
she can't stop.

1007
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:52.519
Yes, And and they have dinner, they do some other

1008
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.480
you know they One of my favorite things about this

1009
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:58.079
is how lame this party is. How they're like, we're

1010
00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:01.920
gonna party down. They're like having salads and hot dogs

1011
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:06.079
and drinking from paper cups. It's five of the wild Party,

1012
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:10.039
Wild party, hell of a party. But as there, as

1013
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:14.480
they're getting ready to enjoy their night, the little latch

1014
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:17.519
to the cellar just kicks open and it's just a

1015
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:21.119
flap in the floor and they all run over and

1016
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:23.239
check it out, which is really cool how the camera

1017
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:25.559
like just kind of goes with them as they all

1018
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:27.280
go over, they go like, what the hell's going on there?

1019
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:31.360
So now we have a creepy basement that just is

1020
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:33.159
begging for some exploring.

1021
00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:36.519
Oh yeah, I mean you see a hole that goes

1022
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.920
down into complete and utter darkness. What's the first thing

1023
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:40.760
you want to do go down the hole.

1024
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:43.000
Well, sure, I mean there might be gords down there.

1025
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:44.360
I love gords.

1026
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:46.320
There were guards down there. I don't know they're hanging

1027
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:49.000
from the ceilings. I do remember, yeah, And and I

1028
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:52.079
love the basement too, because Evil Dead has one thing

1029
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:54.719
truly in common with Night of the Living Dead, which

1030
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:56.840
is that the basement makes no sense for the house.

1031
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.199
Because that basement's way too nice and way too big

1032
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:03.079
to have been dug for a cabin in the middle

1033
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:05.760
of nowhere. And if you watch Night of Living Dead

1034
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:08.599
and you look closely when they're in the basement, when

1035
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:12.199
Cooper's down there with his kid and everything, it is gigantic.

1036
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.480
The stairs, the stairs that go down to the basement

1037
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:19.000
are like they're like twelve feet up, Like it's really

1038
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:21.280
really high up. Why would they go that far down?

1039
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:27.000
But and there's a meter, a power meter, and it's

1040
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:31.440
like five meters like or three because that was the

1041
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:34.599
basement of the office building that they were renting for

1042
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:38.519
their commercial production company. And I mean it makes sense.

1043
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:41.239
It's huge. I actually not trying to brag. I actually

1044
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:43.920
was in there one time. I got to go. That

1045
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:47.320
office building just sits mostly empty in downtown Pittsburgh, and

1046
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:49.320
me and my cousin, we didn't break in. We just

1047
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.360
walked up and the door was freaking unlocked. I mean,

1048
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:54.320
it's an office building. People are allowed to go in

1049
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:56.360
there and go up the elevator to like knock on

1050
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:58.599
office doors to do things. Yeah, yeah, and there are

1051
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:01.679
tenants I assume somewhere, But we just walked in and

1052
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:03.760
the door was opened. So we went into the elevator

1053
00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:05.400
and we just pressed basement and we went down to

1054
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:09.519
the basement. There was nobody using it currently, So in hindsight,

1055
00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:11.800
like as much as I'm like that was kind of weird,

1056
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:14.000
in hindsight, I'm like, well, what were we gonna do? Like,

1057
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:17.320
I mean, I guess we could have like defaced the property,

1058
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:20.119
But anybody could walk into any office building, go somewhere

1059
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:22.559
where nobody's standing and just mess it up. So we

1060
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:23.679
didn't do anything wrong.

1061
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:25.400
Still, the copper wire.

1062
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:28.519
I I mean, we could have, but yeah, we just

1063
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:31.320
looked around. It was crazy because it looked very much

1064
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:33.719
like it did. It's clear that it had only been

1065
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:36.360
used for you know, occasional storage. We even found the

1066
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:39.440
two by four benches that had been built to hold

1067
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:44.519
film cans. They were still there, so for and we're

1068
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.039
I mean, we're talking. This would have been two thousand

1069
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:48.960
and seven or something, so it was like still like

1070
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:51.800
fifty sixty years ago or something like, not not quite

1071
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:53.719
that long, but yeah, because it was nineteen sixty eight

1072
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:56.440
when they filmed it, So yeah, it was it was

1073
00:59:56.480 --> 01:00:00.559
pretty wild. But yeah, the basement in Evil Death way

1074
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:03.400
too big because in reality, I think it was it

1075
01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:05.199
might have been Tom Sullivan. I don't think it was

1076
01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.760
Tom Sullivan's mother's basement. I think it was a friend

1077
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:11.760
of Tom Sullivan's mother's basement. But it's a pretty cool basement.

1078
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:14.559
And as they start to walk into the basement, they

1079
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:18.239
discover some unspeakable evil that we'll talk about right after this.

1080
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:32.639
So they're digging through the basement.

1081
01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:38.800
So they're digging through the bass Just repeat after me. Okay, fine,

1082
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:41.840
well you led me in. I'm just not good at

1083
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:42.800
picking up on my own.

1084
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:44.920
Yeah. Yeah, So.

1085
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:49.960
This is where I mean the the movie starts out tense,

1086
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:53.880
but I like that the basement scene really draws out

1087
01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:57.280
that tension because Scotty goes down first, and there's several

1088
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:02.199
moments where we don't know what's happened to Scotty. We're

1089
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:05.599
kind of we're kind of wondering, like, is the evil

1090
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:08.440
going to get him since he went down there on

1091
01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:08.840
his own.

1092
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:10.920
Well, and at this point we don't even know how

1093
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:13.400
the evil manifests itself. We're not even aware that this

1094
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:14.960
is going to be demonic possession.

1095
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:17.960
Yeah. All we know is like Cheryl just did something

1096
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:21.440
really weird and creepy. Yeah, and didn't seem to enjoy herself.

1097
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:24.079
No, no, And there's more where that came from.

1098
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:28.440
Oh So I like how it sets that up, and

1099
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:32.679
I also like the way that it highlights Scotty and

1100
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:36.559
Ash's characters as friends and also as individuals.

1101
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:38.960
Yeah. Well, because Scotty's a smart ass and he likes

1102
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:39.440
to have fun.

1103
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:42.280
Yeah, so he's down there just hiding, and Ash likes.

1104
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:44.000
To have fun, but he's a little bit more reserved.

1105
01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:50.000
Yeah. So Scotty's playing a prank and kind of jumps

1106
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:53.159
out and scares Ash. And that's when they find the

1107
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:57.480
necronomicon and a tape recorder and they take it up.

1108
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:02.559
And while they're exam the number necronomicon, I believe it's

1109
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:05.760
the Ash is the one who's actually looking through it,

1110
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:06.880
like thumbing through it.

1111
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:09.480
I want to mention real quick. Sorry, I want to

1112
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:11.760
make sure I got this right. So one thing about

1113
01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:14.920
Evil Dead one is they don't call it the Necronomicon

1114
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:15.800
ex mortis.

1115
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:17.119
That's correct, which they.

1116
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:21.679
Call it that in every other iteration, but in this

1117
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:27.800
one it's Naturum demanto, which sounds like book of Demons.

1118
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:31.920
Maybe I'm not sure what I'm not sure like so

1119
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:35.239
naturo demo. Like when I look it up on Wikipedia,

1120
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:39.599
it just says necronomicon. Huh, So I'm not sure where

1121
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:43.199
that which necronomicon was I think an HP Lovecraft concept.

1122
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:48.239
So yeah, it's Latin and it roughly translates as Book

1123
01:02:48.280 --> 01:02:50.760
of the Dead or the nature of Demons.

1124
01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:54.639
Ah okay, that makes sense. Yeah that for whatever reason

1125
01:02:54.639 --> 01:02:56.880
they went with necronomicon later on it does have a

1126
01:02:56.960 --> 01:02:59.119
ring to it. But originally in this one they find

1127
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:02.840
the natur Demanto. So I just want to mention that

1128
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:06.039
because that's a cool little bit of tidbit about this movie.

1129
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:09.880
And it's fun because it shows the world building wasn't

1130
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:12.559
like set in Stone. They very much through the series

1131
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:15.400
just kind of built it as they went along, which

1132
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:20.159
I think is fun. So yeah, they're looking through the

1133
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:24.840
Naturum Demanto, the Book of the Dead, and they start

1134
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:31.920
playing the recording on the tape recorder and Cheryl almost

1135
01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:35.639
instantly freaks out when she hears the guy's voice talking

1136
01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:38.159
about he's found this book and this work that he's

1137
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:41.599
been doing, and she's, you know, screaming, turn it off,

1138
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:44.760
turn it off. And then as the recording goes, he

1139
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:47.880
starts reciting this incantation.

1140
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:50.519
And it's all in Sumerian, and which which I want

1141
01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:52.920
to mention too, is one of the reasons I love

1142
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:57.960
evil dead. I find that era the concept of like

1143
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:01.639
because ancient Egypt is cool, but like the idea of

1144
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:04.639
like that time, that time per the Sumerians and stuff

1145
01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:07.159
where there's nothing left of them. I mean there are

1146
01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:10.840
peoples who are vaguely of them. Yeah, there's nothing left

1147
01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:14.400
of their culture other than relics. They're they're so far

1148
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:15.199
away from us.

1149
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:19.440
You know, there's here jokes, we brought that back. That's

1150
01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:22.239
what I here. It's a long thing. I'll tell you later.

1151
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:25.639
Oh no, please, please don't no. But but my point is, like,

1152
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:28.719
so I love the idea of like a Sumerian incantation.

1153
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:31.719
I love the idea that this is the Sumerian version

1154
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:35.239
of the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Yeahsh which that

1155
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:38.320
just I just love that that concept because the idea

1156
01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:41.679
of like evils from so far back you just don't

1157
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:45.920
even you know, way before the Old Testament, Yeah, is

1158
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:48.440
what we're talking about. I always find that really fun.

1159
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:50.400
I love That's one of my favorite things about the

1160
01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:52.360
opening of the Exorcist is that they dig up that

1161
01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:55.280
pazuzu and everything, and there's like a whole tie into

1162
01:04:56.039 --> 01:04:57.880
really ancient cultures.

1163
01:04:58.079 --> 01:04:58.480
Mm hmm.

1164
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:03.000
So anyway, but yeah, I just yeah. So, so she

1165
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:06.800
hears doctor Raymond Nobi on the tape recorder. He's the

1166
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:15.679
guy who had obtained the Natum Demanto and is reading it, well,

1167
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:19.159
he's reading it out loud as part of his work

1168
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:20.000
to translate it.

1169
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:25.199
Yes, And I think that's when he vaguely mentions like

1170
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:28.000
his wife, or maybe it's later on they're playing the

1171
01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:32.679
recording again and he mentions his wife. But that's that's

1172
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:37.960
when we start to see the evil isn't just ever present,

1173
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:40.920
it's now ramping up because again we go to the

1174
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:44.079
Ramo cam and it's honed in on them. Yeah, and

1175
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:49.199
it's it's following them to the cabin, not just being nearby,

1176
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:52.519
but to the cabin, and it really starts honing in

1177
01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:58.039
on Cheryl. Yes, and this is of course kind of

1178
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:02.400
the sequence that sticks out in most people's minds. Cheryl's

1179
01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:05.480
alone in a room, she's getting ready to take a shower,

1180
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:10.039
and she keeps hearing voices and stuff outside.

1181
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:12.320
Join us.

1182
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:17.159
So, like any reasonable person would do, she goes out

1183
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:19.360
in her bathrobe into the.

1184
01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:22.400
Woods well to see what's going on.

1185
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:25.800
They're playing a joke on Yeah, they think they're that

1186
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:31.239
she's being pranked, which again we've said, yes, she thinks

1187
01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:34.119
that they are pranking her. What I'm trying to say,

1188
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:39.480
which again knowing that Scotti's a jokey, prankster kind of

1189
01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:42.000
guy that he's really trying to like rile people up,

1190
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:43.199
that does make sense.

1191
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:46.719
Pointed out multiple times that Cheryl is way too uptight.

1192
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:51.679
Yeah, so he could have something out for her. So

1193
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:55.679
she goes out in the woods and that's when the

1194
01:06:55.760 --> 01:07:00.639
evil catches her, and it's using the trees and it's

1195
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:04.280
a beautiful effect in the simplicity, and again talking about

1196
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:07.599
like just drive and Moxie can get you so much

1197
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:13.760
because as the vines are curling up her legs. It's

1198
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:17.039
so effective, and it's the sound effects and everything like,

1199
01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:22.320
it's scratchy and uncomfortable and tight, and it grabs her

1200
01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:27.239
arms and her hands and it pins her down and

1201
01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:29.679
the evil has its way with her.

1202
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:32.679
Yeah, it's it's one of the moments in Evil Dead

1203
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:36.320
that a lot of people kind of forget if they've

1204
01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:38.280
seen it. Well, I mean though they forget it because

1205
01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:40.159
they've seen it, like a lot, but not for a

1206
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:42.719
little while. Yeah, and they forget that the original Evil

1207
01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:45.039
Dead really played for keeps pretty hardcore.

1208
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:45.760
Yeah.

1209
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:49.119
And the joke in the audio commentary, by the way,

1210
01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:52.239
with Sam Raimi saying, and I forget what was the

1211
01:07:52.239 --> 01:07:54.639
moment when we lost eighty percent of our female audience?

1212
01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:58.039
Right there? Okay, there it is. There is literally the

1213
01:07:58.119 --> 01:07:59.920
joke you made on the first commentary I ever heard

1214
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:03.039
from it was that. So it is a rough scene

1215
01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:06.559
and the use of a ton of reverse motion in

1216
01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:09.880
order to make the effects work doesn't just make the

1217
01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:13.400
tree limbs move on their own. It also gives a

1218
01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:18.199
dreamy sense of motion, and in fact, that's a common

1219
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:22.239
filmmaking technique, is to film dreams backwards so that the

1220
01:08:22.279 --> 01:08:26.760
motion doesn't feel natural, but they're using it in order

1221
01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:29.039
to make things wrap around her neck and grab her

1222
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:33.239
arms and all this stuff. And after she's been violated

1223
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:36.239
by the trees, which by the way, this is our

1224
01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:41.039
first real hint at possession, because the trees are possessed.

1225
01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:44.560
So what we're kind of seeing already is that the

1226
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:49.239
evil is permeating and taking over all the living things

1227
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:52.239
around because the dirt wasn't coming after but the trees were,

1228
01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:55.159
and the trees are alive, but the sounds of music.

1229
01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:59.279
So now she is running from the evil. As the

1230
01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:02.479
evil is chasing her down. She's heading straight to the

1231
01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:05.560
front door of the cabin. She's trying to get the key,

1232
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:07.880
which is on top of the little ledge above the door.

1233
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:11.039
And we'll be right back to tell you what happens next,

1234
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:23.520
or talk about it at least. So as Cheryl is

1235
01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:25.479
trying to get the key into the door, and she's

1236
01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:27.560
dropping it and she's struggling, and she's looking back at

1237
01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:30.399
the unseen evil that's coming toward her, we get one

1238
01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:33.399
of the most effective jump scares in the film. Yeah,

1239
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:35.640
as she goes to grab the keys, she dropped to

1240
01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:38.279
the ground and Ash grabs her hand and pulls her

1241
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:42.880
into the into the into the cabin, and it's a

1242
01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:44.600
not only is it a solid jump scare, it also

1243
01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:46.000
makes sense she was pounding on the door and like

1244
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:48.760
yelling for help. But now Cheryl is standing in the

1245
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:51.039
little living room and she looks like she is stark

1246
01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:55.000
raving mad because she kind of is yeah and fair enough,

1247
01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:58.720
and she's demanding to be taken into town. Who wants

1248
01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:01.079
to leave right now? They're like, what happened to you?

1249
01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:02.439
What did that to you? And she's like the woods

1250
01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:04.079
the Woozies, like something in the woods is you, and

1251
01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:06.520
she it's one of my favorite moments, she goes, no, Ashley,

1252
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:13.399
the woods themselves. It's a really really just blood chilling moment.

1253
01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:17.239
Yeah, because she's she's being totally honest, but everyone thinks

1254
01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:20.680
she's just stark raving mad. And that's one of the

1255
01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:23.960
kind of one of the themes of the whole franchise,

1256
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:30.840
but especially this movie is questioning reality because I mean,

1257
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:33.239
if you were if you were all in in their

1258
01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:37.279
position and someone came, you know, running in from the

1259
01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:40.880
woods and said, yeah, like the woods attacked me, and

1260
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:44.319
it was the woods themselves, you would think that they

1261
01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:48.279
were utterly insane until other things happen, and then you

1262
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:51.039
would start to assume for a moment that you're insane.

1263
01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:55.039
I just that's a point, you know. That's something that

1264
01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:59.039
I uh noticed on the second watch through well.

1265
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:02.279
Evil Dead one and to have a long long periods

1266
01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:06.239
of like questioning of sanity, mostly when Ash is all alone. Yes,

1267
01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:09.319
they do, and so she basically says, like, I want

1268
01:11:09.319 --> 01:11:12.199
to go into town. Scott. He's like, I'm not going

1269
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:14.920
into town for nothing. It's like, I don't know how late.

1270
01:11:14.960 --> 01:11:18.159
It is, probably at least eleven o'clock at night. So

1271
01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:21.840
she demands Ash, and and it's Ash's car that they

1272
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:24.199
drove up in. So Ash says, yeah, I'll take you

1273
01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:26.359
into town. I guess you'll have to find somewhere to

1274
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:29.640
sleep there, I guess. So they get in the car,

1275
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:35.119
and this is some really solid storytelling, fun storytelling, because

1276
01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:38.079
they get into the car and he starts. He goes

1277
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:42.600
to start the engine, and the engine won't start ever, forever, ever, wherever,

1278
01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:45.520
And then she says, they won't let us leave, Ash,

1279
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:49.239
they won't let us leave, and then it starts, and

1280
01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:50.760
he just kind of looks at her for a minute,

1281
01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:53.760
like and then he backs them out of that driveway

1282
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:56.640
to get turned around, and you start to think, huh,

1283
01:11:56.680 --> 01:12:00.239
what is going on until they get to the bridge

1284
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:03.560
or what's left of it. Yeah, and that that rickety

1285
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:07.359
bridge that they punched a tire through has been ripped

1286
01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:12.039
up and the beams are actually are like facing toward you,

1287
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:15.800
like almost like a claw. Yeah, they've been pulled completely back.

1288
01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:19.199
Probably one of the most challenging things they had to

1289
01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:24.800
do build wise, yeah, is building that destroyed bridge. Luckily

1290
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:26.039
it's the middle of the night, so they didn't have

1291
01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:27.800
to show much of it because you know, it's too dark.

1292
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:32.159
But now they've realized that the bridge is gone, there's

1293
01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:36.800
potentially no way to drive out of there. H So

1294
01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:40.039
they have to come back to the cabin and now

1295
01:12:40.119 --> 01:12:43.680
of course Cheryl is raving again, Yeah, because she's like,

1296
01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:44.840
it won't let us leave.

1297
01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:48.119
Ash, it won't let us leave, and he's he's trying

1298
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:51.600
to just he's trying to be a good supportive brother,

1299
01:12:52.359 --> 01:12:57.880
but also there is no calming her down at this point.

1300
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:02.039
Yeah. Yeah, that that that that boat has sailed, that

1301
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:05.960
bringing her comfort. So they go back to the They

1302
01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:08.439
go back to the cabin and it's just, I mean,

1303
01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:10.239
what can you do?

1304
01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:14.840
So they just they're kind of sitting around biting their time,

1305
01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:15.720
playing cards.

1306
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:20.079
Yeah, exactly. So, so Cheryl's just kind of sitting looking

1307
01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:24.720
out the window, which I suppose makes sense, Yeah, worrying

1308
01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:28.279
about what's going to happen. And Ash starts listening to

1309
01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:33.920
the tape player again Professor Noby's, but with the ear

1310
01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:36.600
piece in, he's not like, it's not broadcasting to everybody.

1311
01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:41.800
And that's where he's learning about how his wife got

1312
01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:45.159
got possessed and how he discovered that, according to the book,

1313
01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:48.560
the only way to kill someone who is possessed is

1314
01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:53.960
through the act of bodily dismemberment. And while that's happening,

1315
01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:57.600
Linda and Shelley are not really playing cards so much

1316
01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.279
as this is a part that always I love, but

1317
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:04.640
it always weirded me out there. So Shelley is pulling

1318
01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:07.399
cards and Linda is guessing the.

1319
01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:09.920
Cards, yeah, like a psychic test.

1320
01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:13.039
And she's guessing them wrong, all of them, and Shelley's

1321
01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:17.760
telling her she's right. And why Shelley is just fucking

1322
01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:21.640
with Linda, I don't know, but it is very funny,

1323
01:14:22.359 --> 01:14:24.920
especially in the context of the whole film. When you're

1324
01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:26.960
done watching, you're like that was a weird thing to happen,

1325
01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:32.279
but it goes phenomenally into Chryl, who's not even facing

1326
01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:36.199
toward them, naming each suit of the cards, you know,

1327
01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:40.239
Jack of Spades, you know, Jack of Diamonds and Queen

1328
01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:43.239
of Hearts, eight of Spades, two of Spades, and she

1329
01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:46.439
starts naming them faster than they can draw them, you know,

1330
01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:50.439
just right off there. And then she turns and roars

1331
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:54.920
as we see our first full blown Deadite, although I

1332
01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:57.760
don't believe deadite is said in the first film. That

1333
01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:01.359
is what they become known as later on, Yeah, is

1334
01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:08.159
as dead Heights. And she basically, in a raspy, supernatural,

1335
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:15.439
other worldly voice, says that they disturbed their slumber. All right,

1336
01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:24.920
I'll stop doing that, but that's so much fun, and

1337
01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:26.960
then says that she's going to kill everyone. And she's

1338
01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:29.279
levitating the whole time she's saying this, which, by the way,

1339
01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:34.439
was done by using an old magician stage trick. It

1340
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:37.239
was literally a bar that would be that would be

1341
01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:40.560
usually stuck through a curtain, and they had stuck it

1342
01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:43.760
through the window that had been broken early on in

1343
01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:46.880
the movie. That's how they got her levitating. They literally

1344
01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:50.319
used an old stage magic trick. So she's you know,

1345
01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:54.199
levitating there saying that, and then she gets down on

1346
01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:58.119
the ground, falls down, grabs a pencil and stabs Linda

1347
01:15:58.159 --> 01:16:01.279
in the ankle in a moment that I have never

1348
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:06.000
watched that movie with anyone who didn't like really get

1349
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:09.720
uncomfortable seeing that stab. And it's right where you never

1350
01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:11.560
want to be stabbed in the ankle. It's like right

1351
01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:15.560
where the tendons meet. Yeah, it's it's really a nasty one.

1352
01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:20.800
Yeah, and the effects the effects were so effective that

1353
01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:25.199
made sense, but the effects just really gets you because

1354
01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:28.319
she she doesn't just stab and wooh, that's it. She

1355
01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:31.720
stabs and she's like trolls it back, rolls it back

1356
01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:37.520
and driving it in like it's nasty. And even as

1357
01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:41.000
a as a moviegoer now I can look at it

1358
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:43.000
and be like, ah, that was a fake prosthetic, but

1359
01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:45.720
boy does it look really rough.

1360
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:49.079
And then after she's done stabbing Linda in the ankle,

1361
01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:52.399
she throws she flings ash through the air and he

1362
01:16:52.880 --> 01:16:55.920
rams into a shelf, one of many shelves he would

1363
01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:58.279
hit into, and then the shelf falls on top of him.

1364
01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:01.520
By the way, and Bruce Campbell as a young man

1365
01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:04.039
was famous for being a physical comedian. That was like

1366
01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:06.079
his favorite thing in the world, and they really play

1367
01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:08.399
it up in Evil Dead too. But here you notice

1368
01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:12.199
how much he throws himself around, very very very clearly

1369
01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:16.880
he loves his physical humor. Luckily, Scott knocks Cheryl into

1370
01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:20.680
the cellar, yeah, basically pummels her down with the shotgun

1371
01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:25.119
and then locks the cellar door with chain and from

1372
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:41.920
there things start to get really freaky after this. So

1373
01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:45.800
one of my favorite elements of Cheryl in the Basement

1374
01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:51.800
is that the cellar door has to be sealed with

1375
01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:56.560
a chain, which is just unusual. I suppose it makes

1376
01:17:56.600 --> 01:17:59.279
sense though, because why would you ever, you know, in

1377
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:02.159
a normal circumstance ever need to lock a cellar door

1378
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:05.760
from the outside. You know, you might need to, for

1379
01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:09.239
whatever safety reason, lock yourself in the cellar, but you

1380
01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:11.760
would never need to lock the cellar from the outside,

1381
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:16.960
yeah you know. So basically, there are like metal hooks

1382
01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:20.000
on the cellar door and a chain has been put

1383
01:18:20.039 --> 01:18:23.439
through it, so the door is opening a good inch

1384
01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:27.039
and a half two inches, and that creates one of

1385
01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:30.880
the most iconic images from the film, which is the

1386
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:35.720
dead eite Cheryl staring through that crack in the door. Yeah,

1387
01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:41.239
and it really is so so friggin' memorable, you know,

1388
01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:45.520
really very effective. So I love that. And now we're

1389
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:52.840
dealing with a lot of shit. Yeah, some kind of

1390
01:18:52.840 --> 01:18:54.960
shit has hit some sort of fan as I like

1391
01:18:55.000 --> 01:19:01.359
to say. And so now Shelley goes to a room

1392
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:06.079
because she's freaked out by her eyes being gone. Yeah, basically, which,

1393
01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:08.920
by the way, I mean there's some one a couple

1394
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:11.199
of things worth mentioning about the actors in this movie

1395
01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:14.680
and the things they put up with. This was before

1396
01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:19.840
soft contact lenses. Oh god, no, so those Sclera lenses

1397
01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:23.359
they were working Sclara Sclara, You've weren't scleara lenses, right

1398
01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:25.640
or did you not wear ones that covered your whole eye?

1399
01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:29.520
No, I've never worn Sclera lenses. I want to train

1400
01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:32.800
myself to use them in case as an actress, like

1401
01:19:32.840 --> 01:19:35.720
I'm ever presented with that opportunity, I can be like

1402
01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:36.359
I'm a.

1403
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:39.079
Whole It's a whole different thing to put them in

1404
01:19:39.159 --> 01:19:40.720
because they cover your whole eye. So so for those

1405
01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:45.079
who Sclera contact lenses cover your eye in its entirety.

1406
01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:48.319
They don't just cover the uh which the iris iris.

1407
01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:49.960
They cover the whole thing as to where if you're

1408
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:52.239
listening to this and you wear contact lens where you

1409
01:19:52.319 --> 01:19:55.800
just cover your iris. So now imagine if you're a

1410
01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:58.199
little older, and you don't even have to be that

1411
01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:00.479
much older to have worn glass contact lens by the way,

1412
01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:02.920
because a lot of people wore them well into the

1413
01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:06.520
nineties and early two thousands because they were already used

1414
01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:09.079
to them. Yeah, so they were fine with it. My

1415
01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:11.920
mom wore them for a really long time because that

1416
01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:15.039
was what she always wore. They were comfortable at that point,

1417
01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:17.760
you know, she was used to them until she got

1418
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:19.720
those acuvius and then she was like, holy crap, this

1419
01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:24.920
is amazing, feels so much better. But yeah, so they're

1420
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:31.279
wearing sclere lenses made of glass that are completely opaque,

1421
01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:35.039
so they are not just slightly blind, they are totally

1422
01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:38.840
blind when they're wearing them. And there are moments even

1423
01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:42.399
evil Dead two where when people jump up and go

1424
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:45.079
like ah, you can see them like reaching totally blind

1425
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:48.399
to grab people or whatever and like their hands landing

1426
01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:52.239
and then getting purchased like you're completely blind with those

1427
01:20:52.279 --> 01:20:59.319
in that's number one. Number two worth mentioning fog machines. Oh,

1428
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:04.159
then they were wax based, so the fog was literally

1429
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:08.000
like a type of smoke, of thin smoke. It wasn't

1430
01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:12.399
just it wasn't vapor, which is what machine use glycerine

1431
01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:16.279
fog machines now. So it would make you cough, it

1432
01:21:16.319 --> 01:21:19.560
could irritate your lungs, and that was one of the

1433
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:22.800
better options for fog because there were also I wish

1434
01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:24.319
I knew what they were called, but there were also

1435
01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:28.479
these little cakes. They looked like little tiny cakes of

1436
01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:32.920
a chemical that was colored and you would literally carry

1437
01:21:32.920 --> 01:21:36.119
it around in a hot skillet and wave it around

1438
01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:39.079
and it would let off this incredibly thick colored smoke,

1439
01:21:39.239 --> 01:21:43.680
usually blue, and it was probably a little toxic. And

1440
01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:46.880
actors that I know a couple of actors who've worked

1441
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:48.479
with it, and they said that like you'd blow your

1442
01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:49.720
nose at the end of the night and it would

1443
01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:50.079
be blue.

1444
01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:52.119
Oh no, no.

1445
01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:56.279
So yeah, so it wasn't fun being covered in, you know,

1446
01:21:56.439 --> 01:21:58.479
surrounded by that fog and stuff. You really couldn't breathe,

1447
01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:00.399
and it didn't just feel like you couldn't, which is

1448
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:03.800
how Yeah, because if anybody listened to this, and I'm

1449
01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:05.760
sure a lot of you have have gotten a fog

1450
01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:10.159
machine for Halloween. That's the glacerin fog we're talking about.

1451
01:22:10.199 --> 01:22:12.000
You know, it's really not that bad. Like you feel

1452
01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:13.600
like you should cough when it gets close to you.

1453
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:16.319
It doesn't actually make you cough, you know. It's just

1454
01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:18.920
not thick enough. It's not it just doesn't have enough

1455
01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:21.239
to it. So these actors are putting up with a

1456
01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:23.760
lot on top of being you know, covered in caro

1457
01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:28.560
syrup and and liquid latex. It's a hell of a ride.

1458
01:22:28.680 --> 01:22:33.840
And honestly it inspired a whole generation of filmmakers, myself included,

1459
01:22:34.159 --> 01:22:37.680
who really like imagined and fantasized about for a long

1460
01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:40.960
time having doing that movie where like you're just covered

1461
01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:43.680
in fake blood all day long, you know, because we're

1462
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:46.720
making this ridiculous movie. And uh and it would it

1463
01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:50.960
would dry, and you would stick to things. I've been

1464
01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:53.880
I've played enough characters in enough horror movies for friends

1465
01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:57.640
and stuff that I have experienced just about every unpleasantness

1466
01:22:57.680 --> 01:22:59.640
you can have with fake blood. I think one of

1467
01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:03.760
my face it was they built a fake They built

1468
01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:05.840
a fake not a fake torso, but they built like

1469
01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:08.199
a portion of my torso so my guts could come out,

1470
01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:12.960
and they put a flap of liquid latex on my

1471
01:23:13.119 --> 01:23:16.600
like waistband of my pants, you know, to hold it there,

1472
01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:18.800
and then they glew it down on the top and

1473
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:20.920
then they they're putting the guts around and then right

1474
01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:25.319
before action, they pour blood into that area. And immediately

1475
01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:27.439
I realized that flap is just a funnel for fake

1476
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:29.479
blood directly into my underwear. Mmm.

1477
01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:31.399
Lovely.

1478
01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:34.520
Yeah. When I stood up after laying in place for

1479
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:36.760
twenty or thirty minutes, I felt like I'd given myself

1480
01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:43.960
a Brazilian wax and I was like, oh no, yeah, yeah,

1481
01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:47.359
it's it gets very sticky, and it dries and sets

1482
01:23:47.399 --> 01:23:51.800
and gets even more sticky. So anyway, but back to

1483
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:56.840
the back to the movie, So they're trying to figure

1484
01:23:56.840 --> 01:24:00.479
out what to do about Chryl being demonic, goes to

1485
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:04.199
her room because she's freaked out about it, and and

1486
01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:07.720
then we have another really great moment where the evil

1487
01:24:07.800 --> 01:24:11.199
breaks through a window and we see Shelley scream and

1488
01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:16.560
now I wonder what happened. She is now possessed as well,

1489
01:24:17.159 --> 01:24:19.680
and each one of them is different in how they

1490
01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:20.720
act when they're possessed.

1491
01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:22.960
By the way, Yeah, I like that.

1492
01:24:22.960 --> 01:24:25.199
Yeah, yeah, especially I mean because it's really mostly the

1493
01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:28.560
girls who are dead heights. I mean, Scotty becomes one briefly,

1494
01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:32.439
but but you know, you've got Cheryl who is just

1495
01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:37.720
this creature. And then Shelley is like even more demented.

1496
01:24:37.239 --> 01:24:41.479
And violent because she immediately like goes on a rampage.

1497
01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:44.279
Yes, she just starts like trying to rip faces off.

1498
01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:46.399
And then when we get to Linda, we'll talk about

1499
01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:50.760
how she's her her type of demon is is really

1500
01:24:50.800 --> 01:24:57.680
strange and unsettling. But so, uh, I I lost my

1501
01:24:57.720 --> 01:25:02.079
train of thought. Oh so she attacks Scott, but he

1502
01:25:02.119 --> 01:25:04.119
throws Yeah, he throws her into the fireplace, that's right.

1503
01:25:04.319 --> 01:25:05.960
And when he pulls us, she says, oh, thank you.

1504
01:25:06.039 --> 01:25:07.640
I don't know what I would have done if I

1505
01:25:07.640 --> 01:25:09.760
had had to be in those hot coals burning my

1506
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:14.079
pretty flesh for a moment. Longer you have beautiful skin,

1507
01:25:14.399 --> 01:25:17.520
let me let us have it. It's a great, like

1508
01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:23.199
just weird moment. And so sure enough, kids, the way

1509
01:25:23.239 --> 01:25:26.720
to solve this is doctor Nobi. Professor Noby said, bodily

1510
01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:30.319
dismember and Ash is standing there with an axe, just

1511
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:33.560
like like scared. He's too scared to help. Scott grabs

1512
01:25:33.560 --> 01:25:36.399
the axe and just chops up his high school sweetheart

1513
01:25:37.199 --> 01:25:39.319
who is a demon I mean, for the record, but

1514
01:25:39.399 --> 01:25:40.359
he chops her up.

1515
01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:42.079
Also she's possessed.

1516
01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:49.640
A wow, hateful. But afterward Scott is not okay. No

1517
01:25:49.960 --> 01:25:55.640
would you be yes? Uh no, but he's not okay,

1518
01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:59.279
and he just doesn't know what to do. So he

1519
01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:02.399
tells Ash going to bury her, yeah, which seems like

1520
01:26:02.479 --> 01:26:04.359
it's the only way he can think of to kind

1521
01:26:04.399 --> 01:26:08.960
of normalize the circumstance. So they put her body, her

1522
01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:12.239
remains of her body, in a white sheet and they

1523
01:26:12.319 --> 01:26:16.720
head out the front door. And things are not about

1524
01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:31.359
to get much better after this. So they've taken Shelley's

1525
01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:37.640
dismembered corpse out to bury it. And oddly enough, it's

1526
01:26:37.680 --> 01:26:41.479
pretty actually uneventful. Yeah, which I think in hindsight as

1527
01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:43.680
I said that, like ha ha, Now that makes perfect

1528
01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:46.880
sense though, because you're expecting more crazy the moment they

1529
01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:51.039
go outside. So none is actually pretty suspenseful. Yeah, yeah,

1530
01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:52.079
it's kind of nerve wrecking.

1531
01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:54.840
Well, it's the old joke, is you want to hear

1532
01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:58.039
the secrets? Is it good suspense? I'll tell you tomorrow.

1533
01:26:58.079 --> 01:27:01.560
That's a pretty good one, like the one, Uh, how

1534
01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:04.680
do you keep an idiot in suspense, I'll tell you tomorrow.

1535
01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:09.079
That's the one I always heard as a kid, usually

1536
01:27:09.079 --> 01:27:17.399
in English, but no, I used to that. That's something

1537
01:27:17.399 --> 01:27:20.479
I've always want to put in a screenplay. Is somebody

1538
01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:24.359
on their deathbed and their last words A couple closer?

1539
01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:27.640
How do you keep an idiot in suspense? How? Uh?

1540
01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:30.439
The pass away? I've always wanted to do it, but

1541
01:27:30.520 --> 01:27:33.119
like but not from like in a goofy way, like

1542
01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:37.000
like like like as a last statement of that character's

1543
01:27:37.159 --> 01:27:41.159
who they are, not not jokey like they legitimately it's sad,

1544
01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:43.279
but it's like they went out on their own terms

1545
01:27:43.359 --> 01:27:43.880
kind of idea.

1546
01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:47.439
I love that. That's a very you idea.

1547
01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:49.840
Yeah, I've been I've been working on that one for

1548
01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:55.720
a while. So Scott decides after they get back inside,

1549
01:27:55.800 --> 01:27:59.239
he's done being here. Yeah, And he's like, we're and

1550
01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:01.560
and while all this is going on, Linda is is

1551
01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:05.359
like in and out of consciousness from her leg injury,

1552
01:28:05.399 --> 01:28:11.159
her foot injury and Wolf. So so Scott's like, we're

1553
01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:12.840
gonna hike out of here because there's got to be

1554
01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:14.840
a trail or something like, there has to be a

1555
01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:17.800
way across the thing. It's just we can't drive yeah,

1556
01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:20.000
and he tells him like it it will be bad,

1557
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:22.239
and he's like, I'll like, we gotta go, and he's like,

1558
01:28:22.279 --> 01:28:25.520
we can't take Linda. And I love it. He goes,

1559
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:27.760
she's your girl friend, you take care of her, and

1560
01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:29.720
I love that. He's like, I don't give a shit

1561
01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:33.000
about her. So then but then he does have that

1562
01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:34.479
I will say, he says that stuff, and then he

1563
01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:36.800
has that little more where he goes, we'll send people,

1564
01:28:36.840 --> 01:28:38.960
We'll send people back, like we're not just gonna go,

1565
01:28:39.159 --> 01:28:41.760
We're gonna go and send get help. So he's not

1566
01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:46.880
like a total bastard, he's just really he's well, he's broke,

1567
01:28:47.039 --> 01:28:50.000
you know, like mentally you can't be okay, you know,

1568
01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:52.319
which reminds me of Evil Dead. My one of my

1569
01:28:52.319 --> 01:28:54.600
favorite Evil Dead two lines when Ash is looking in

1570
01:28:54.640 --> 01:28:56.800
the mirror and other Ash comes through the mirror and

1571
01:28:56.800 --> 01:28:59.000
grabs him. Because he goes, I'm fine, I'm fine. He goes,

1572
01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:01.880
you just we just carved up our girlfriend with the chainsaw?

1573
01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:09.600
Does that sound fine? And if because of my massive,

1574
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.960
deep affection for Evil Dead not only as a movie

1575
01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:15.319
but as it's as for how different it is from

1576
01:29:15.319 --> 01:29:18.640
every other Evil Dead property, I have a no problem

1577
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:20.920
remembering what's in two and what's in one. But I

1578
01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:23.399
totally don't blame anybody who's like, wait, was that in

1579
01:29:23.479 --> 01:29:26.439
one or two? Because they overlap a ton. Yeah so,

1580
01:29:26.840 --> 01:29:29.079
but because I'm obsessed with the fact that it's much

1581
01:29:29.159 --> 01:29:33.359
less funny and it's much darker, I I can quote

1582
01:29:33.399 --> 01:29:38.319
it like, you know, like scripture. So well, So Scotty

1583
01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:41.119
comes back and he's been attacked by the trees and

1584
01:29:41.119 --> 01:29:44.000
he's talking just like Cheryl. Yeah, which is an interesting

1585
01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:47.039
turn of events too. And of course the also while

1586
01:29:47.039 --> 01:29:50.359
all this is going on, Cheryl is half the time

1587
01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:54.960
taunting and going crazy in that since nommer, and when

1588
01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:58.479
she isn't, she's being dead quiet, like completely silent.

1589
01:29:58.640 --> 01:29:59.640
Not just staring.

1590
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:04.239
She's even worse. Yeah yeah, yeah, So, but he tries

1591
01:30:04.279 --> 01:30:07.600
to help Scotty, but Scotty is really hurt. His arms

1592
01:30:07.600 --> 01:30:09.880
and legs are torn up, his face is torn up,

1593
01:30:10.479 --> 01:30:13.720
and he tries to warn Ash like the trees won't

1594
01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:14.479
let him escape.

1595
01:30:15.359 --> 01:30:15.760
Mm hmm.

1596
01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:21.439
And at that moment, Ash has a realization, how's Linda doing?

1597
01:30:23.960 --> 01:30:33.520
So Linda, well, at least she's a mildly conscious if

1598
01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:38.760
you could, if you could call demonic possession consciousness. I would,

1599
01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:45.640
And she's one of the freakier dead heightes in this movie,

1600
01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:49.439
because you know, the other two are kind of what

1601
01:30:49.479 --> 01:30:53.000
you would expect from a demonic possession, very you know,

1602
01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:56.680
very similar to Exorcists in a way where it's you know,

1603
01:30:56.800 --> 01:31:02.199
bombastic and loud and deep voices and and levitating and

1604
01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:08.800
attacking people. Linda her her makeup makes her look almost

1605
01:31:08.840 --> 01:31:12.479
like a doll or a clown, and they've really accentuated

1606
01:31:12.520 --> 01:31:16.840
the smile lines of her baby she's a baby doll.

1607
01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:21.319
And and she's just sitting there tackling in a high

1608
01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:26.079
pitched voice, and is she saying like you're never gonna leave.

1609
01:31:26.159 --> 01:31:31.680
Or wear gun you weird gun again and just sing

1610
01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:37.800
songy not another pee, Time to go to sleep.

1611
01:31:37.800 --> 01:31:43.359
Which is super effective and super creepy. It maybe maybe

1612
01:31:43.479 --> 01:31:50.159
unless you're into that because of because of just this

1613
01:31:50.279 --> 01:31:56.319
departure from what we expect out of demonic possession makes

1614
01:31:56.319 --> 01:32:03.760
it even more unsettling, because you see that the evil

1615
01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:08.000
is willing to take any shape it can and do

1616
01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:13.359
anything it can just to mess with Ashes. There's no

1617
01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:16.479
rhyme or reason to it. It's literally just what will

1618
01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:21.560
freak him out the most. At this present moment. And

1619
01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:24.600
again you when you get into the psychology of the

1620
01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:30.520
characters in this movie, like you've you've just killed your

1621
01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:35.399
friend's girlfriend, dismembered her and buried her. Your friend, you know,

1622
01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:39.199
got attacked by trees. Your your sister got attacked by trees,

1623
01:32:39.239 --> 01:32:41.520
and she's locked in the basement. And now your girlfriend

1624
01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:45.079
who got stabbed in the ankle, her face is totally different,

1625
01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:49.159
and she's sitting there like a little baby doll, singing

1626
01:32:49.399 --> 01:32:52.880
about how we're gonna get you, like you're you're gonna

1627
01:32:52.920 --> 01:33:00.560
be super freaked out. So yeah, so he grabbed the

1628
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:07.159
Sumerian dagger. Yes, but he's he's not there yet. He's

1629
01:33:07.279 --> 01:33:13.479
not the hero yet. He's not able to totally dismember

1630
01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:15.760
her like he knows is going to be able, like

1631
01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:19.520
to actually stop her and respects like he's a spects

1632
01:33:19.760 --> 01:33:24.800
or hopes. Instead, he buries her.

1633
01:33:25.439 --> 01:33:28.119
Yeah, he digs a hole and he sticks her in there.

1634
01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:31.279
But that doesn't take no, and.

1635
01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:45.640
We'll talk about that more after this. So, as you

1636
01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:49.800
were saying, the burial doesn't quite go so good.

1637
01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:56.840
No, Uh, she claws her way back up and there's

1638
01:33:56.960 --> 01:34:00.000
another like another fight with her, and this is where

1639
01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:05.800
ash again, he's not the reluctant hero, He's the reluctant survivor. Yeah,

1640
01:34:05.880 --> 01:34:10.159
because he's left with no other options. So he grabs

1641
01:34:10.159 --> 01:34:13.439
the shovel and starts beating her back with it and

1642
01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:15.239
then decapitates her with it.

1643
01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:18.079
Well, she leaps up in the air like some kind

1644
01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:23.880
of trapeze artist. After like kind of goofily ah, he

1645
01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:27.279
catches or cuts her head off. The head falls like

1646
01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:29.840
seven or eight feet away. The body lands right on

1647
01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:33.880
top of him, starts spraying viscera all over his face,

1648
01:34:34.199 --> 01:34:37.800
and then it starts kind of almost like humping him. Yeah,

1649
01:34:37.800 --> 01:34:40.760
and then the severed head over there starts going ah ah,

1650
01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:46.720
freaking scary man. In fact, the only thing that I'd

1651
01:34:46.840 --> 01:34:49.199
laugh during that scene because it is crazy. But the

1652
01:34:49.199 --> 01:34:51.439
only thing I laughed during that scene about is at

1653
01:34:51.479 --> 01:34:52.760
one point it cuts back to the head when he

1654
01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:55.680
goes like rah, and it's clearly somebody else, Like it's

1655
01:34:55.720 --> 01:34:58.399
just clearly, And it just makes me chuck a little

1656
01:34:58.399 --> 01:35:00.840
because it's clearly like a guy or a woman with

1657
01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:03.439
way more makeup on to try and hide the fact

1658
01:35:03.479 --> 01:35:05.880
that it's not that actress. So that one always makes

1659
01:35:05.880 --> 01:35:08.560
me chuckle a little bit. But like really effective stuff

1660
01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:11.119
and they were digging holes to put people under the

1661
01:35:11.159 --> 01:35:13.600
dirt and stuff to get those effects to work the

1662
01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:18.880
way they did. Yeah, so he's just decapitated with a shovel,

1663
01:35:19.079 --> 01:35:23.800
buried the parts again and oh you know what we

1664
01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:27.960
totally forgot. Huh when he doesn't, it's a small thing.

1665
01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:31.359
But when he doesn't, when he decides not to dismember her,

1666
01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:35.000
it's with the chainsaw. Oh, because in this one we

1667
01:35:35.039 --> 01:35:38.399
don't get any major chainsaw foo really that comes in

1668
01:35:38.520 --> 01:35:41.199
part two, but we do. He goes to the WORKSHD

1669
01:35:41.239 --> 01:35:43.399
and he snaps her down to the table, but then

1670
01:35:43.479 --> 01:35:48.279
the evil you know, turns her normal. She's still dead, yeah,

1671
01:35:48.319 --> 01:35:51.640
but like she doesn't have the you know, affectations that

1672
01:35:51.680 --> 01:35:54.079
are terrified and everything. So I just want to mention

1673
01:35:54.119 --> 01:35:55.960
that because I totally forgot, Like, yeah, that was a

1674
01:35:56.000 --> 01:35:58.760
really great moment too, just seeing him with the chainsaw

1675
01:35:58.760 --> 01:36:01.119
and everything in the he just can't do it because

1676
01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:04.319
he loves her. And this is something else I really care.

1677
01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:10.600
I really love about this movie is they tried and

1678
01:36:10.600 --> 01:36:14.840
and to varying degrees, succeeded in really telling a solid

1679
01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:18.239
story with a love story with a with friendship stories,

1680
01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:22.039
they really they didn't show any They didn't show any

1681
01:36:22.279 --> 01:36:26.119
like insecurity about that. And I find that especially with

1682
01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:29.960
filmmakers who are in movies where there's a lot of

1683
01:36:30.039 --> 01:36:32.399
effects and there is a bit of a Gallows humor

1684
01:36:32.439 --> 01:36:35.800
element that they kind of chicken away from, like the

1685
01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:38.760
human points of storytelling that I think are so important.

1686
01:36:39.319 --> 01:36:41.800
They won't have a love story where they play it

1687
01:36:41.840 --> 01:36:44.159
for anything other than a laugh. Because early on, like

1688
01:36:44.199 --> 01:36:46.960
there's a really adorable scene where he and Linda where

1689
01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:49.199
he's like pretending to be asleep and she looks at him,

1690
01:36:49.239 --> 01:36:50.920
and then when she looks back at the little he

1691
01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:52.960
has a little box a gift for when she looks

1692
01:36:53.000 --> 01:36:54.600
at the box, he opens his eyes and looks at

1693
01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:56.720
her and then closes him right when she looks. It's

1694
01:36:56.760 --> 01:36:59.800
actually really cute, and they recreate it when she's a corpse.

1695
01:37:00.439 --> 01:37:01.640
Oh yeah, where she.

1696
01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:03.279
Oh there's so much to talk about in this movie.

1697
01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:05.800
I mean, it's a very visual movie, so we can't

1698
01:37:06.279 --> 01:37:09.439
describe every moment anyway, but and who would want us to.

1699
01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:12.000
We've already talked longer than the run time of Evil Dead.

1700
01:37:12.319 --> 01:37:17.199
So but but my point is they leaned into this idea.

1701
01:37:17.279 --> 01:37:19.800
So when he goes to like chainsaw, they play that

1702
01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:24.199
music cue that you hear when they were in love

1703
01:37:24.279 --> 01:37:29.239
and spending time together. Yeah, it's really it's really sweet,

1704
01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:31.640
and it's really important, and I think it's one of

1705
01:37:31.640 --> 01:37:33.920
the things that helps set the movie apart. Even though

1706
01:37:33.920 --> 01:37:35.880
it's a little silly, even though it's a little ridiculous,

1707
01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:38.920
even though it's a little cheesy, who cares, Yeah, I

1708
01:37:39.560 --> 01:37:42.119
really love it. But that necklace that he got her

1709
01:37:42.239 --> 01:37:47.039
was the ugliest necklace possible, like known to man. But

1710
01:37:48.439 --> 01:37:53.439
after Linda's decapitation, Ash heads back inside and discovers that

1711
01:37:53.479 --> 01:37:58.319
while all this was going on, Cheryl has escaped the cellar. Yay,

1712
01:37:59.199 --> 01:38:01.520
that is not great news. And we and during that

1713
01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:04.119
sequence we see her like hitting it harder and harder

1714
01:38:04.159 --> 01:38:06.840
as he's fighting with her until it breaks. Yeah, and

1715
01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:12.159
she gets loose. So Cheryl is of course at first

1716
01:38:12.159 --> 01:38:15.800
nowhere to be found. Then out of nowhere, she's choking Ash.

1717
01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:19.239
He gets away from her and and she's outside the

1718
01:38:19.319 --> 01:38:21.880
cabin mm hmm, and he shoots her in the jaw.

1719
01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:24.319
And at this point she doesn't look anything like herself

1720
01:38:24.319 --> 01:38:26.840
because she isn't. But also, but that's what I'm talking

1721
01:38:26.840 --> 01:38:29.279
about about like the creepiness though that like she really

1722
01:38:29.319 --> 01:38:32.720
doesn't look like the same person. She isn't, but you

1723
01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:33.520
know in the movie.

1724
01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:36.000
In the movie, she is, and that makes it so

1725
01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:37.439
much creepier.

1726
01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:39.479
And I really think it works. So now Ash is

1727
01:38:39.479 --> 01:38:44.319
trying to barricade the door to keep Cheryl out, and

1728
01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:49.520
around that time, Scott, always known for a you know,

1729
01:38:49.640 --> 01:38:53.720
late arrival, becomes a dead eye himself and attacks Ash.

1730
01:38:54.359 --> 01:38:57.800
So now all hell has truly broke broken loose. Yeah,

1731
01:38:57.880 --> 01:39:01.680
like that's just what's going on now. And he attacks Ash,

1732
01:39:01.920 --> 01:39:04.960
and uh but but he does something that pays off

1733
01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:07.039
a little bit, which is he knocks the book over

1734
01:39:07.920 --> 01:39:14.600
the uh uh not an necronomicon, the the Neturum Demento demo.

1735
01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:18.520
He knocks it over and it lands near the fire

1736
01:39:19.359 --> 01:39:21.960
in the fireplace, and at that point, one of the

1737
01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:25.199
biggest gross outs of the movie, Ash gouges Scotty's eyes out,

1738
01:39:25.279 --> 01:39:27.960
which every time, even though you kind of tell it's

1739
01:39:27.960 --> 01:39:31.600
a fake head, it still like gets to you, you know. Uh.

1740
01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:34.600
So he gouges his eyes out, he pulls a tree

1741
01:39:34.640 --> 01:39:36.920
branch out of his stomach that had been sticking in there,

1742
01:39:37.199 --> 01:39:41.199
and it starts spewing blood like with the sound of

1743
01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:44.560
like a faucet, yeah, which I did. I actually find

1744
01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:48.119
really effective because the dead Heites are just ridiculous. I

1745
01:39:48.159 --> 01:39:51.399
mean they literally are ridiculous to the point of being scary.

1746
01:39:51.760 --> 01:39:54.560
But they're ridiculous. They're outrageous. Everything about them is way

1747
01:39:54.600 --> 01:39:59.760
far out. Yeah. So uh yeah, so uh. Scott is

1748
01:39:59.800 --> 01:40:03.560
like disabled from the eye gouge and the stomach stick

1749
01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:08.159
being removed, and Cheryl finally busts through the door with

1750
01:40:08.279 --> 01:40:12.439
her hands and grabs him, which is the other strongest

1751
01:40:12.520 --> 01:40:14.000
jump scare in the whole film. I feel like it

1752
01:40:14.079 --> 01:40:17.079
was him grabbing Cheryl's arm and Cheryl's hands punching through

1753
01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:21.319
the door and grabbing him, and that just uh yeah,

1754
01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:23.119
that one always makes me jump, even though I know

1755
01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:23.720
it's coming.

1756
01:40:25.039 --> 01:40:25.920
I jumped last night.

1757
01:40:26.119 --> 01:40:29.319
Yeah, I know, I know. I was ready to, you know,

1758
01:40:29.680 --> 01:40:31.560
uh snap next to your head or something if you

1759
01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:32.800
didn't to make sure you did.

1760
01:40:33.880 --> 01:40:35.800
Oh, you're so set, I try so.

1761
01:40:35.840 --> 01:40:38.680
Now ashes on the ground and Scott and Cheryl are

1762
01:40:38.720 --> 01:40:41.239
attacking him. They're hitting him with fire pokers. They're just

1763
01:40:41.720 --> 01:40:44.199
the funniest part is they're not killing.

1764
01:40:43.920 --> 01:40:46.000
Him, they're just tormenting it.

1765
01:40:46.279 --> 01:40:50.239
They're taking their time. You know they're really enjoying their meal.

1766
01:40:52.079 --> 01:40:54.800
And that's something also that sticks with me, like they

1767
01:40:54.800 --> 01:40:56.840
could have just stabbed him through the head or something,

1768
01:40:57.079 --> 01:41:00.239
but no, they're whacking him with the fire poker. And

1769
01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:03.399
as all this is happening, he has a little bit

1770
01:41:03.439 --> 01:41:06.960
of a realization as he notices that the book has

1771
01:41:07.039 --> 01:41:11.760
kind of come alive and is kind of signaling for help,

1772
01:41:13.159 --> 01:41:16.279
and he realizes that he needs to get the book

1773
01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:20.159
and get it into the fireplace. But how will he

1774
01:41:20.319 --> 01:41:24.079
do it and how could it be symbolic? We'll talk

1775
01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:38.439
about that right after this. So Ash needs to get

1776
01:41:38.439 --> 01:41:41.760
the book and throw it back and throw it further

1777
01:41:41.800 --> 01:41:45.239
into the fire. He takes the necklace seed what he

1778
01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:49.359
had given Linda, which is it has a friggin magnifying

1779
01:41:49.399 --> 01:41:51.800
glass on it. It looks like it is the ugliest

1780
01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:55.439
damn thing. But he starts throwing it at the book

1781
01:41:55.600 --> 01:41:58.880
and trying to hook it to catch it. And I

1782
01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:01.760
do want to mention supposedly the reason that they ended

1783
01:42:01.840 --> 01:42:05.439
up with that hideous necklace was in an earlier draft

1784
01:42:05.479 --> 01:42:07.039
of the script, it was going to be used to

1785
01:42:07.159 --> 01:42:10.520
use sunlight to like burn the book or something like,

1786
01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:14.760
you know, likes as a magnifying glass like burning ants

1787
01:42:14.880 --> 01:42:20.079
when you were a psychopathic child, you maybe, but no, uh,

1788
01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:23.359
but so one of my favor things. He keeps throwing

1789
01:42:23.399 --> 01:42:25.520
it and it won't hook the book, which honestly, like

1790
01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:27.840
how would it. Yeah, you know it's a long shot.

1791
01:42:28.279 --> 01:42:30.880
But then as the as the dead Dites grab him

1792
01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:34.039
and pull him away, they reveal as he's being dragged

1793
01:42:34.079 --> 01:42:36.039
away that it's hooked the book on the last throw,

1794
01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:39.800
which I just think is such a great moment. So

1795
01:42:40.640 --> 01:42:44.479
he throws the book right into the fireplace, and as

1796
01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:47.279
the book burns, the dead ights they just freeze in place,

1797
01:42:48.119 --> 01:42:50.119
and it's the creepiest thing. And they start like twisting

1798
01:42:50.119 --> 01:42:52.920
their heads and stuff, and you're like cracking sounds and

1799
01:42:52.960 --> 01:42:58.239
then they start rotting in place. Yeah, And honestly, this

1800
01:42:58.399 --> 01:43:00.680
is the part of the movie that I think really

1801
01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:03.039
sets it apart because it hits you with one more

1802
01:43:03.079 --> 01:43:07.119
big wow before it's all over, of just these like

1803
01:43:07.159 --> 01:43:13.479
stop motion animation of them like turning into like basically mold. Yeah,

1804
01:43:13.520 --> 01:43:15.920
but at the same time, like gunk goop is coming

1805
01:43:15.960 --> 01:43:19.680
out of them, and then these hands burst out of

1806
01:43:19.720 --> 01:43:22.760
their bodies for a like there's so much going on

1807
01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:26.960
that's insanity. These giant Yeah, these giant arms come out

1808
01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:29.159
of the corpses, ones laying on the ground, ones standing up,

1809
01:43:29.520 --> 01:43:31.920
and and the whole time that they're doing stuff, all

1810
01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:36.960
it's really doing is splashing ash with more gore the

1811
01:43:37.039 --> 01:43:41.319
whole damn time. This movie was not ranted an R rating,

1812
01:43:41.359 --> 01:43:45.439
by the way, they refuse to rate to rate Evil Dead,

1813
01:43:45.560 --> 01:43:47.600
Oh really, that happened. That happened a lot back then.

1814
01:43:47.600 --> 01:43:51.640
There was no NC seventeen. So yeah, they could technically

1815
01:43:51.680 --> 01:43:54.920
issue you an X, but you could issue yourself an

1816
01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:58.279
X because the NPAA did not and still does not

1817
01:43:58.319 --> 01:44:00.399
have a trademark on the X rating like they do

1818
01:44:00.439 --> 01:44:03.119
the R rating, PG thirteen rating, PG rating, G rating

1819
01:44:03.119 --> 01:44:07.159
and NC seventeen rating. Huh so. So anyway, so it

1820
01:44:07.199 --> 01:44:11.479
was released unrated, which is challenging. Yeah, it means that

1821
01:44:11.920 --> 01:44:14.479
most newspapers can't run your ads. There's a lot of stuff,

1822
01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:16.520
so Evil Dead being a hit, A lot of that

1823
01:44:16.720 --> 01:44:23.920
was I'm pretty sure word of mouth. Anyway, So, yeah,

1824
01:44:24.279 --> 01:44:27.680
they've just turned into these complete the arms coming out,

1825
01:44:27.680 --> 01:44:30.640
I mean, it's hard to describe it. They basically just

1826
01:44:30.680 --> 01:44:36.000
kind of explode, yeah, eventually, but they take their time exploding,

1827
01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:38.039
and I would love to know, like what was going

1828
01:44:38.039 --> 01:44:40.960
through your head the first time or even this last

1829
01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:42.920
time that you were watching the sequence when they start

1830
01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:45.680
just like freaking out and dying sort of.

1831
01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:52.359
I am always just so blown away because again I'm

1832
01:44:52.399 --> 01:44:56.479
I'm a stop motion nerd, and just the amount of

1833
01:44:56.920 --> 01:45:01.000
time and dedication it would take to get those shots.

1834
01:45:02.319 --> 01:45:07.840
But again, the roughness works. They're not perfectly animated, and

1835
01:45:07.880 --> 01:45:11.279
that makes it even more creepy and unsettling as they're

1836
01:45:11.319 --> 01:45:16.800
like rotting in place. Yeah, and once the hands come out,

1837
01:45:16.880 --> 01:45:22.039
I'm just like we because it's it's super effective at

1838
01:45:22.279 --> 01:45:25.920
not just you know, scaring you jump, scare ooh, scary,

1839
01:45:26.239 --> 01:45:31.920
but also establishing that the evil, even once you've defeated it,

1840
01:45:32.159 --> 01:45:34.640
the evil is still there trying to get one up

1841
01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:39.319
on you. Yeah, there is no truly defeating the evil.

1842
01:45:39.399 --> 01:45:42.159
There's only staying it for a while.

1843
01:45:42.520 --> 01:45:45.640
Really well, and I like that in a way, the

1844
01:45:45.800 --> 01:45:52.079
evil basically just kind of it's impossible to interpret the

1845
01:45:52.119 --> 01:45:54.520
actions of the evil sometimes and I kind of love that,

1846
01:45:54.640 --> 01:45:58.239
like the idea that like in the Realm of the

1847
01:45:58.319 --> 01:46:01.800
Dead heites, it just makes perfect sense that like you

1848
01:46:01.880 --> 01:46:04.159
start to rot and then giant arms come out of

1849
01:46:04.199 --> 01:46:07.039
you and then you explode. That's just what happens. Yeah,

1850
01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:09.960
like there you go that we do here. But I

1851
01:46:10.039 --> 01:46:11.840
like that because not only is that funny and absurd,

1852
01:46:11.840 --> 01:46:14.479
but it's also it's kind of scary because it's like

1853
01:46:14.479 --> 01:46:16.880
it doesn't make any sense, doesn't matter if it makes

1854
01:46:16.880 --> 01:46:17.279
sense to you.

1855
01:46:17.560 --> 01:46:19.720
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't have to make sense to you.

1856
01:46:19.760 --> 01:46:19.840
No.

1857
01:46:20.560 --> 01:46:24.239
So now dawn has broke, the sun is rising, we're

1858
01:46:24.279 --> 01:46:28.920
getting a sense of, like hope in the music, Ash

1859
01:46:28.920 --> 01:46:34.640
stumbles outside, covered in blood, completely exhausted, night from hell

1860
01:46:34.840 --> 01:46:40.199
and back. And then we see the unseen ramocam coming

1861
01:46:40.239 --> 01:46:42.840
from far away, but this time it goes right up

1862
01:46:42.880 --> 01:46:44.800
to the cabin, and earlier in the movie we'd seen

1863
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it go up to the cabin and give up, go away.

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And I still don't know. It's never really explained. If

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01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:52.199
maybe it was because the evil didn't have enough power

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01:46:52.279 --> 01:46:55.000
yet to just punch right through the cabin, because it

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01:46:55.039 --> 01:46:57.039
would go through the windows once or twice, and it would,

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01:46:57.079 --> 01:46:59.239
you know, get into your mind, but it didn't like

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01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:02.520
just man manifest physically necessarily it woul knock trees around

1870
01:47:02.520 --> 01:47:04.920
and things like that, or if it was just because

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01:47:04.920 --> 01:47:07.079
it was biding its time, or because it's so evil

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01:47:07.119 --> 01:47:09.239
that it plays with you. And that is something also

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01:47:09.239 --> 01:47:11.079
worth mentioning, is they're supposed to be pure evil, and

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01:47:11.439 --> 01:47:13.560
pure evil wouldn't just kill you. Pure evil would torment

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01:47:13.680 --> 01:47:16.000
you and be you know it would it would be

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01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:18.840
beyond that, It would be a game. It would be fun. Yeah,

1877
01:47:18.920 --> 01:47:22.079
it would be thorough so. But this time it comes

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01:47:22.159 --> 01:47:24.239
up through the back of the cabin. It just punches

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01:47:24.279 --> 01:47:26.159
through the back door, punches through a door in the

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01:47:26.199 --> 01:47:28.840
middle house, punches through the front door, gets right up

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01:47:28.880 --> 01:47:30.960
to Bruce Campbell's face. As he turns around, he screams.

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It cuts. And we didn't even talk about like when

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01:47:35.439 --> 01:47:38.720
the light bulbs were bleeding, when the outlets and sockets

1884
01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:40.680
were bleeding of the house, when it just started gushing,

1885
01:47:40.720 --> 01:47:44.520
like the the the in the basement, the plumbing just

1886
01:47:44.520 --> 01:47:47.880
started gushing blood all over him. This movie, there's so

1887
01:47:48.039 --> 01:47:50.399
much to it. I just wanted to mention that as

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01:47:50.439 --> 01:47:53.319
a side note, because so much happens. We see his

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01:47:53.359 --> 01:47:56.439
face screaming, it cuts to black, and that's evil dead

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01:47:56.560 --> 01:48:00.399
man like all read well, well no, because there's evil too,

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01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:05.039
but but no, no, and evil dead that's why it's

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01:48:05.119 --> 01:48:07.720
it's it's a fun movie. It's a scary movie. And

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01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:11.279
why I do love that it is called the ultimate

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01:48:11.319 --> 01:48:15.800
experience in grueling terror because it is a grueling experience,

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01:48:15.880 --> 01:48:19.640
not because it's boring or because it's repetitive, but because

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01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:24.359
there's just more and more and more, and it's so creative,

1897
01:48:24.880 --> 01:48:28.960
it's so thought out and in some ways not and

1898
01:48:29.279 --> 01:48:31.560
I think it makes it work a ton better.

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01:48:31.760 --> 01:48:34.960
Yeah, I have to agree, So I just.

1900
01:48:35.319 --> 01:48:37.840
Yeah, I've always loved Evil Dead. I do think it's scary. Also,

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when you watch Evil Dead with me, the volume is

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01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:43.479
up all the way up. It's got to be way up,

1903
01:48:43.479 --> 01:48:46.680
because when the movie's allowed, it really works. It really

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01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:49.039
does it really really does. I know they spent a

1905
01:48:49.119 --> 01:48:51.199
fortune going to New York City to do the sound

1906
01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:54.239
mix on Evil Dead because they wanted it to be

1907
01:48:54.760 --> 01:48:58.800
very effective. And boy is it, and boy, howdy is it?

1908
01:48:59.239 --> 01:49:02.319
And after we get back from this very scary break,

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01:49:02.600 --> 01:49:05.439
we'll give our final thoughts on Evil Dead and maybe

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01:49:05.479 --> 01:49:08.359
even maybe tell you what we're covering next time on

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01:49:08.399 --> 01:49:23.399
the show right after this. So, Rachel, do you have

1912
01:49:23.479 --> 01:49:27.199
any other thoughts that you would like to share about

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01:49:27.279 --> 01:49:30.560
Evil Dead, whether it be the first film or the

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01:49:30.720 --> 01:49:33.600
entire run just anything you want to kind of talk

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01:49:33.640 --> 01:49:37.800
about or share, because it's unlikely any other Evil Dead,

1916
01:49:37.840 --> 01:49:41.399
although maybe Evil Dead, maybe the remake of Evil I

1917
01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:45.399
need to rewatch it with fresh eyes. But besides Evil

1918
01:49:45.399 --> 01:49:47.840
Dead Rise and the Evil Dead Remake, all the other

1919
01:49:47.920 --> 01:49:51.479
Evil Dead movies and TV shows are, while still fun

1920
01:49:51.520 --> 01:49:53.800
and scary to some extent, they are played for laughs,

1921
01:49:54.079 --> 01:49:55.720
so they probably won't end up on the show because

1922
01:49:55.720 --> 01:49:59.079
we only talk about this for those who are new

1923
01:49:59.119 --> 01:50:01.479
to the cutting deep. The whole point is to pick

1924
01:50:01.560 --> 01:50:06.319
horror movies that scare fans of horror movies. Yes, so

1925
01:50:06.720 --> 01:50:08.319
that makes it a little extra special because there are

1926
01:50:08.319 --> 01:50:10.880
lots of horror movies I freaking love, but the ones

1927
01:50:11.359 --> 01:50:12.760
that go on the show are the ones that scare

1928
01:50:12.800 --> 01:50:17.039
me h and scare you. So with that set up

1929
01:50:17.079 --> 01:50:18.720
saying you know, so, if you have anything to say

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about Ash or the Evil Dead universe, now is probably

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the best possible time.

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I mean because we touched on it briefly toward the

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01:50:28.039 --> 01:50:30.640
start of the show that we watched Ash Versus the

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01:50:30.680 --> 01:50:34.359
Evil Dead, and that is as a show, it is

1935
01:50:34.720 --> 01:50:38.840
much more in like the action adventure camp than it

1936
01:50:38.960 --> 01:50:40.439
is like a pure horror camp.

1937
01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:42.560
They do have to press how much scares they did

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01:50:42.600 --> 01:50:43.399
pack in though.

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01:50:43.479 --> 01:50:47.359
Oh they and they do a great job of really

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making the Possession and the demons in the TV show

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01:50:51.199 --> 01:50:55.960
as equally scary in its own way to the Evil Dead.

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01:50:56.640 --> 01:51:05.359
But what I love about Evil Dead again is here's

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this group of fresh filmmakers and actors with a hope

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01:51:12.640 --> 01:51:16.680
and a dream and not even a I mean, they

1945
01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:21.159
had a plan, but all they really had was a

1946
01:51:21.239 --> 01:51:25.920
few tools at their disposal and the inability to give up.

1947
01:51:26.680 --> 01:51:28.199
Yeah no, I mean they had to see it all

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the way through.

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And they ended up making one of the scariest movies ever.

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01:51:35.279 --> 01:51:39.800
And I think that is just kind of it's heartwarming

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01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:43.319
to people like you and me, and it's a great

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01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:48.319
it's a great lesson that you don't have to have

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01:51:48.479 --> 01:51:51.600
all the perfect tools. What you have to do is

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use the tools you have to the best of your ability.

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01:51:55.520 --> 01:51:56.159
I agree with that.

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So that's that's really what stands out to me every

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01:51:59.800 --> 01:52:02.399
time time we watched this movie is Yeah, sure, I

1958
01:52:02.520 --> 01:52:05.680
notice a few flaws here and there. I notice, you know,

1959
01:52:06.119 --> 01:52:10.560
her hands sticking through the latex gloves or using totally

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01:52:10.600 --> 01:52:15.680
different actors for different characters, But they made it work,

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01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:19.720
and they made it in such a way that those

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01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:24.800
small flaws are really what make the movie what we

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know and love today.

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Yeah, I agree.

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So yeah, that's my thought.

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01:52:29.920 --> 01:52:33.199
And the staying power of Evil Dead is something that

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01:52:33.560 --> 01:52:38.239
it's very hard to rival or even even come halfway to.

1968
01:52:38.439 --> 01:52:41.319
I mean, we made a short film inspired by Evil

1969
01:52:41.359 --> 01:52:44.520
Dead for fun a few years back, when my buddy

1970
01:52:44.560 --> 01:52:48.119
Michael Rasso from the Film Photography Project wanted me to

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01:52:48.159 --> 01:52:51.960
shoot some double eight millimeter film as an example of

1972
01:52:52.039 --> 01:52:55.319
the film stock he was selling, and we shot. We

1973
01:52:55.399 --> 01:52:59.000
called it Cabin within the Woods, which was a play

1974
01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:00.720
because Within the Woods was the name of the short

1975
01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:04.000
film they made to sell Evil Dead to investors. They

1976
01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:06.520
made on Super eight film. It's called Within the Woods,

1977
01:53:07.119 --> 01:53:10.560
and it's yeah, it's literally like a ramocam stalking a

1978
01:53:10.640 --> 01:53:13.159
girl in a cabin in the woods who goes kayaking

1979
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and stuff.

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It's yeah, it's pretty great.

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It was really fun.

1982
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But we fit the deer head in there.

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We did well. We we lucked out. We were actually

1984
01:53:19.439 --> 01:53:22.399
in a hunting cabin, yeah, so, I mean a nice one,

1985
01:53:22.479 --> 01:53:25.119
but a hunting cabin nonetheless, So yeah, we had the

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01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:27.199
deer head there, so we were able to pull it

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all off.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, no Evil Dead. If you haven't, if you

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haven't watched it in a while and you've just finished

1991
01:53:34.279 --> 01:53:36.439
listening to us talk about it, if you're not already

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01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:39.800
chomping at the bit to rewatch it, go, yeah, do it,

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do it, especially since spooky season is upon us and

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not you know, whether you're a weekly spooky lifelong fan

1995
01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:47.199
or you're one of the many, many folks who kind

1996
01:53:47.199 --> 01:53:50.039
of join us for the jaridos for the for the

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01:53:50.119 --> 01:53:52.600
last few months of the year because they want something

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01:53:52.640 --> 01:53:55.079
spooky to kind of end. And a high note on

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you deserve to watch them, you really, you really do.

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01:54:00.159 --> 01:54:03.119
It's got nice fall vibes at the beginning.

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01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:05.800
Yeah, just at the beginning because for.

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01:54:05.800 --> 01:54:08.840
The first two and a half minute.

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Correct, and what it doesn't have is a real ghost

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story about a haunting at the Taby. So before we

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get out of here, we will be bringing you two

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episodes of Cutting Deep into Horror in October, possibly three

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01:54:21.359 --> 01:54:24.079
if something happens, but two is the plan right now.

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So do you want to share what the next movie

2009
01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:28.079
is going to be?

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01:54:28.760 --> 01:54:31.039
I actually kind of hinted at a little bit through

2011
01:54:31.039 --> 01:54:33.720
the episode, Uh huh, because It's going to be a

2012
01:54:33.800 --> 01:54:35.119
Nightmare on Elm Street.

2013
01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:39.600
Which is the first film to scare the ever loving

2014
01:54:39.800 --> 01:54:43.279
hell out of me that I remember. That is movie

2015
01:54:43.479 --> 01:54:47.439
number one, the first favorite movie I ever had, not

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01:54:47.520 --> 01:54:49.960
just first favorite horror movie, first favorite movie I ever had.

2017
01:54:50.279 --> 01:54:54.319
Freddy Krueger, eh for real, I believe it had older sister,

2018
01:54:54.439 --> 01:54:56.199
so I had all the tapes because they were hers,

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01:54:56.239 --> 01:54:59.640
and then she became too cool, so they became my tapes.

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01:55:00.279 --> 01:55:01.640
I'm not a kidding when I say, like I was watching

2021
01:55:01.640 --> 01:55:03.239
Freddie Wade too young because I got the tapes on

2022
01:55:03.239 --> 01:55:04.800
it was like seven years old because my sister didn't

2023
01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:05.479
want them anymore.

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01:55:06.479 --> 01:55:07.439
Yeah that's pretty young.

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01:55:07.640 --> 01:55:09.479
Yeah that's also I got all those ral steinbooks I

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01:55:09.479 --> 01:55:11.319
shouldn't have been reading because they were the adult ones,

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01:55:11.399 --> 01:55:13.960
well the young adult ones, not the kids ones. So

2028
01:55:13.960 --> 01:55:16.039
while kids were reading Goosebumps, I was reading Fear Street,

2029
01:55:16.039 --> 01:55:18.039
where people were like dying sometimes.

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Was explained so much about you.

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You know what, you're right? I mean, when you're right,

2032
01:55:23.960 --> 01:55:28.159
you're right. So but I guess that's all. Then we'll

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see you guys very soon. Right here at cutting deep

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into horror on Weekly Spooky's feed, And remember we air

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we get the hell out of here?

2050
01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:26.880
Uh, don't play that recording with the Book of the Dead.

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I have it queued up right here. Oh no,