Nov. 14, 2025

Cutting Deep into Horror | Bitter Feast (2010) — Dark Foodie Horror, Chef Revenge & Thanksgiving Scares

Cutting Deep into Horror | Bitter Feast (2010) — Dark Foodie Horror, Chef Revenge & Thanksgiving Scares
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This week on Cutting Deep into Horror, hosts Henrique Couto & Rachael Redolfi dive into Bitter Feast (2010)—a brutally underrated foodie horror thriller perfect for the Thanksgiving season. When a celebrity chef snaps after a vicious review, a simple cooking critique becomes a nightmarish showdown of revenge, obsession, and culinary torture.

We break down why Bitter Feast has become a cult favorite for fans of chef horror, creative captivity stories, and Thanksgiving-adjacent genre films, and how its themes of burnout, public shaming, and internet criticism feel even more relevant today. From the dark humor to the escalating violence, this is a dish best served terrifying.

We also explore its place in 2010s indie horror, the performances that make the tension simmer, and why this might be one of the most overlooked movies to add to your late-November watchlist.

)Inside this episode:

  • The twisted charm of foodie horror and why it explodes during Thanksgiving
  • Chef vs. critic psychology and why neither character is truly innocent
  • How the film uses cooking challenges as weapons
  • Burnout, humiliation, and the horror of being torn apart online
  • Bitter Feast’s place in cult indie horror and why it deserves reevaluation
  • How food, fear, and obsession collide in unforgettable ways

Where to watch Bitter Feast (U.S.) – current as of November 13, 2025
You can currently find Bitter Feast (2010) on several legitimate streaming platforms in the U.S.:
  • Prime Video – Available on Amazon’s Prime Video platform (subscription or with ads, depending on your plan). 
  • Tubi – Streaming free with ads on Tubi. 
  • Fandango at Home (Vudu) – Streaming free with ads on Fandango at Home’s free-with-ads section. 
  • The Roku Channel / Cineverse – Available to watch via The Roku Channel and Cineverse. 

Rental/purchase options are also widely available on major digital storefronts like Apple TV, Fandango at Home, and Amazon Video if you prefer to own or rent in HD. 
(Availability can change, so if one service drops it, search the title on your preferred platform.)

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All right, let's move those. Paul, Paul, Paul, does the

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broth look like it's ready? Don't answer that, I'll just

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get mad. Oh hey, sorry, sorry, it's just been a

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madhouse in here. You know, the holiday rush is coming

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right up.

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Yeah. Uh, this is a really big kitchen. There's a

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lot of people working in here.

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Well, it takes a lot to make a great meal.

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You know what they say, it takes a village. I

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think that was referencing children originally, but I'm talking about food.

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Oh okay, I'm glad we cleared that up. So what

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kind of food do you guys cook here?

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Well? Only the finest. But I feel like that point

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is kind of mood. I'm sure you're wondering why are

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you tied to this chair?

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That was gonna be my next question. Yeah.

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Well, the fact is you have been a little judgy

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the last few times I've made breakfast. You've kind of

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taken it for granted, and you seem to not really

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care that I work really hard for no runny yellows.

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God, that was just that was one time you undercook

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the eggs. That was it. And it's when you were

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experimenting with doing the French the French scrambled eggs, and

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I feel like I was trying to be constructive.

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Okay, okay, no that makes no no, no, no, no,

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relax that makes sense. Well then just relax. I did

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choose a really nice chair for you. And uh, I'm

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just going to sharpen this knife while not breaking eye contact.

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This is feeling a little charged.

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Maybe could we get a little bit more scallop in here? Jesus?

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What are we?

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How?

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Why are we so cheap?

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Ah? And this podcast is about why horror scares us?

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What deep, dark, secret scary cinema shines a light on.

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The discussions are frank and involve conversations about abuse, trauma,

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and mental health. There are also spoilers, so keep that

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in mind too. Now, sharpen your machetes and strap raisers,

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because this is Cutting Deep into Horror.

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Hello, my spookys, and welcome back to Cutting Deep into Horror.

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I am, of course your host, Enrique Kuto here with

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my Cutting Deep into Horror co host and foodie Rachel Ridolfi. Rachel,

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how am I?

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Uh? Well done? I think.

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I mean it's funny. I said that as a joke,

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but then I thought about it. Do you remember at

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the end of October. My description of myself was crispy.

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I just kept saying like, I'm all right, I'm just

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really I'm just crispy right now. Yeah, that that's a

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pretty fair assessment of it. For those who don't know,

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I don't know how you wouldn't. But in October I

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did thirty one shows in thirty one days, which was

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actually thirty four shows in thirty four actually thirty five

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shows in thirty four days. Long story, but math is fun.

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Well I'm almost certain that's correct though. But that was

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that was what, that was what we did, and it

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was still that's a lot.

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That's a lot.

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But now we're here, Thanksgiving is coming right up, and

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we wanted to cover a film that I introduced you to,

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a film I discovered when it first came out and

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was kind of blown away by, which is Bitter Feast

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from two thousand and ten. And yeah, I thought that was,

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you know, very very fitting. Well, well, you suggested, I

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I just needed to mention that really really quick. So

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back to the topic at hand, Rachel I just cooked

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us dinner. Ironically enough, although although it was a team effort,

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I took a red sauce you made and then jujed

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it up, Yeah, amped it up a little bit.

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I would call that a solid collaboration.

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Yeah, Yeah, and it turned out pretty well. Pasta a

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little spicy Italian sausage, a little red swas, a little

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bit of this that. Ye, But now I think that's

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why it's perfectly you know, it's fitting that then we

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sit down and record the show after we have a

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nice little dinner. But I know that I showed you

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Bitter Feast when we were on a cabin trip together.

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Mm hmm.

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It was one of those I was going through all

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my movies and they had to be DVDs. Yeah, because

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the place had a DVD player. Yep, that's and this

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was one I had on DVD because it came out

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in twenty ten, so I bought it before Blue ray

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was much more accessible. But you're the one who was like,

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I want to talk about that on cutting deep into horror.

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So I would love to know, like, what made you

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choose twenty ten's Bitter Feast, which, by the way, is

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available to watch on two B, Pluto TV, Zoomo, Amazon Prime.

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It's pretty much anywhere you could watch movies for free.

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Bitter Feast is available. So if you haven't seen it,

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you are going to. We're gonna spoil the hell out

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of it, so keep an eye on that. But what

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made you? What made this stick out to you that

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you wanted to cover it?

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Honestly, I was so blown away by not only the characters,

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but also the depth of the story because there's not really,

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in the traditional sense a hero. In Bitter Feast, you

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are to an extent rooting for one person, but when

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you get down to brass tacks, neither one of them

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are very likable people.

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I think that's easy for you to say as a

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person who hasn't had to deal with criticism, professional criticism

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as far as your day to day life. To me,

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there's a very clear good guy and it's the bad guy. No,

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but no, That's one of my favorite things about the

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movie is that it's basically tormenting a critic. Because I'm

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not a fan of critics. No, I just can't help it,

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you know, even though some of my best friends are critics.

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Never been a fan. But what about it? But what

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about it made you think it should be on cutting deep?

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What made it so scary to you?

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Honestly? I feel like the I guess it would be

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like the third meal the Rabbit the rabbit Meal when

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the character JT like totally flips and goes completely insane

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with the torture and just kind of like accepts the

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fact that this is his life now, is being tortured

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by this guy that he pissed off. That was really

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scary to me because it was him losing all hope.

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And I feel like a lot of times in Horror

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they can be almost upbeat because the main character still

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is holding on to that shred of hope. But he've

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really like he does lose hope totally. And then I

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don't even feel like he actually gets hope back, even

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after some things happen and he's like kind of it's

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kind of looking like he could pull one over on Peter.

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I don't think he does ever get the hope back,

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which is very interesting to me.

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So it's the idea that he kind of accepts his

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circumstance exactly. Oh, I mean, I could see that is

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pretty pretty terrifying. There's a movie called King of the

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Ants that represents that in a shockingly powerful way, the

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idea of just acceptance of even the most horrible situation.

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But we'll talk more about Bitter Feast and get into

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who made it and when and why right after this.

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All right, So we're talking about Bitter Feast from twenty ten.

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I know I keep saying that, but I want to

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make sure people find the right film directed by Joe Maggio,

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who I, shockingly enough, have not seen any of his

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other work. He directed a film in two thousand and

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one called Virgil Bliss, which I never saw. He directed

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a film in two thousand and three called Milk and Honey,

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which I never saw. He did a film called Paper

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Cuver Rock in two thousand and eight, which I never saw.

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I like, I'm surprised. Yeah, then Bitter Feast. Than in

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twenty eleven, he did a film called The Last Rites

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of Joe May, which unfortunately I never saw, and I'm like,

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it feels weird that I haven't seen some of of these.

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Did a film called Super Moto in twenty sixteen, which

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I never saw, and then in twenty twenty three he

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did a movie called Bliss, which was really hard for

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me to find anything about because apparently there was a

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movie in twenty twenty one called Bliss and a movie

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in twenty twenty four called Bliss.

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So that's not a confusing whatsoever.

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Well, it's kind of like one of my favorite found

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footage horror movies of all Time is called Look and

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you can't find it. It's the worst title ever because

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it's look.

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It's almost as bad as Director's Cut, which is yeah,

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really hard to find as well. So yeah yeah, uh

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uh but yeah so directed written and directed by Joe Maggio.

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It is produced by Glass Eye Picks, which is the

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production company owned at least in part by Larry Feesenden,

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the actor who also plays a role in the film.

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Larry Fesden has been in so many movies. He was

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a a he still is a character actor who started

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getting into producing a lot of different stuff in the

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early two thousands and onward, a lot of interesting films.

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He's also directed a lot of interesting films, like When

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to Go he did in two thousand and one. He

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did his own version of Frankenstein called Depraved in twenty nineteen,

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which was really pretty damn good. I enjoyed it. Produced

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some of Ty West's early movies the guy You know

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what Ty West is?

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Uh see, she's his plan. He did X and Pearl and.

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Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, then I do. I just didn't

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know that I know.

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But yeah, so Larry Fesden's really interesting career, really interesting guy,

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and of course it stars Jane Legrosse, James Lagrosse as

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Peter Gray and that is our chef, and then Joshua

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Leonard as JT. Franks are critic I'll just say it

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that way. Critic And for those who don't know, so,

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James la Grosse has been in a ton of films

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and TV shows. Most famously, if you were a horror

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movie fan, you would know him for his role in

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Phantasm two, where he played grown up Mike, which a

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lot of people pretty mad about because they were they

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recast Mike, but only in Phantasm two because the original

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Michael a Michael Baldwin rejoined the cast after that. But yeah,

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So he played Mike in Phantasm two. He was in

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Point Break, he played Roach and Point Break. He did

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a lot of really interesting movies. He did a Gun Crazy,

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which I've always been a fan of. He's in Living

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in Oblivion, which I love that movie just and though

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those are just like some films in the nineties, he

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did so many films. He's still doing tons of movies.

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He was in Straight Into Darkness, which is my buddy

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Jeff Burr. That was his film He's been in gosh,

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so many movies. I'm looking at this list. I'm trying

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to pick like just a few to mention. Yeah, and

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he's especially been in TV shows like Crazy over the

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last few years. He was in the Constantine TV series.

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He was on Billions, he was in Fear of the

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Walking Dead, Blue Bloods, Castle Rock, just a lot of stuff.

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Oh yeah, he was in one episode of Severance.

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Oh cool.

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Yeah, so really talented actor, major Hollywood guy. And then

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we've got Joshua Leonard. And josh Leonard has the special

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feather in his cap of being one of the three

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stars in the Blair Witch Project, yeah, which we covered

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last time here on Cutting Deep, and he played yeah. Yeah,

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so but that was his first feature film, and since

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then he's been in a lot of movies. He definitely

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is of the three the most has the biggest career

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of that group. But he's been in a bunch of

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indie movies mostly. He was also he was in Hatchet.

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He was in the two thousand and eight prom Night movie,

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which I liked. Okay, he was in twenty Was It? No?

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Not that one Shark Knight, which I love. Nobody Me

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and David Denoi are like Shark Knight. But also one

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of his more famous roles was he was in Unsane,

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the Steven Soderberg movie, which I really liked about, you know,

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about being in a mental hospital and being crazy. I

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really loved that one, and it was the gimmick was

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It was a major like festival hit, but it was

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shot on the iPhone seven plus the whole movie was

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what ever. It's all about doing stuff like that, just

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shooting on whatever and being like, screw you. He's also

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big on being his own director photography, and when people

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say you can't do that, he's like, shut up. So

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anywhere those things are related, I mean it might be

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he uses a fake name. It's just that people will

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be like, so you know what it was the photography,

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like like, oh I used a fake name. It was me. Like,

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he doesn't hide it at all. So anyway, with that

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all being said, the long of the short of the

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film is a professional chef starts to become down on

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his luck. He's losing his TV show, his restaurants are

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becoming passe, and on top of it all, there's this

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hipster and he I think Josh Leonard really played into

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being like not even like a caricature of a hipster,

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but like really played into like being like a hipster

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in the late two thousands, yeah, early twenty tens. I

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think he really like nailed that kind of that kind

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of look and way about him. And the fact that

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his website's called astro Punks just made me want to

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punch the screen. But he decides to take it out

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on one of his cruelest critics. And that's the other

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thing is like his criticisms are in no way constructive.

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They are just tool just mean. Yeah, they're mean for

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the sake of entertainment, And I I know what that's like.

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I remember when I had my first film play on

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like regular television. It wasn't even in the United States,

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that was in the United Kingdom. I mean I was

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getting comments to like kill myself. People are just like,

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your movie sucks so bad, kill yourself. It's like it

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was a children's movie that you didn't like and you're

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an adult, like maybe just move on. Yeah, maybe I'm crazy,

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but like.

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You can turn the channel.

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Yeah, no, for real. And there have been a few

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critics that are that heart hurtful and harsh. And I

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noticed when he repeats some of the reviews in there.

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There are ones that say, like, you know, he should

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be executed for this level of you know whatever, or

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he should be banished from ever cooking again. And it's

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like that is pretty you know, tough words from a

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guy who writes on a blog to a guy who

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like trained and became a Michelin star chef. To say

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that you should never touch an egg again, it's like,

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get the fuck out of here.

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Yeah, Like, don't you can say.

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The egg wasn't good? But maybe maybe you know, they

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it was an off day, yeah, or maybe you took

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too much cold medicine before you came. Like, I don't know.

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I couldn't imagine reviewing food in a serious way.

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Oh no.

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I mean I love being able to say like, oh,

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it's really good, but I couldn't imagine sitting there. I

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mean it's the same thing with like with my cigars,

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Like I've been asked before because of how intensive my

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collection is, like do you review them? And I'm like no,

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I mean like I like them. I like smoking cigars.

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You know, if I get something from it, I'll share it.

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But I can't imagine sitting in a room with a

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camera smoking a cigar and then like giving my thoughts

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and then cutting it down and sharing it like that

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just sounds awful. Yeah, that just sounds so for me.

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I mean just because the way I am, like cigars

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are for me, and that's how food is too. I

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mean I would say, if it's good, if it's you know,

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the priced, well I can do all that. That's my

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review is just like was it worth my time? Would

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it be worth your time? You know that kind of thing.

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But yeah, he's definitely clearly a hateful person. So and well,

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we're going to jump into the beginning beginning and kind

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of see where this meal is taking us through the courses.

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I don't know, I thought it was gonna come up

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with a pun leave me alone right right after this, Well.

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You were talking about your personal experience with critics, and

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while I do not have the personal experience with critics,

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as you were talking, it reminded me of a quote

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from Robert Heinlend And you know what a nerd I am,

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and how much I love his writing. It's true, but no,

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his quote is a critic is a man who creates

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nothing and thereby feels qualified to judge the work of

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creative men. There is logic in this he is unbiased.

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He hates all creative people, all creative people equally, and

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that's kind of JT the critic. That's kind of the

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whole point behind him is his creativity is in the insults.

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It's not in actually enjoying the food. It's coming up

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with the insults that are entertaining to everyone. Whereas Peter,

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he's the creative one with actual food, he's actually being creative,

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he's not destroying. And that is that ties into kind

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of the beginning of the movie, which you would mentioned.

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And we start off with two boys in the woods,

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and we realized pretty early on that one of the

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boys will eventually grow up to be the cook. And

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he's sitting there playing with chef. He's sitting there playing

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with a slightly older kid, and we learned that is

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his brother. And the older kid is talking about in basically,

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he's got written in his journal and he's talking about

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there's the creators and the destroyers in the world, and

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anyone who would seek to unite the two seeks to

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destroy the world basically. But yeah, ties that all in

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together to that quote. But as those two kids are playing,

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the little whinier kid who grows up to be the chef.

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He's he's like, I don't like this game and just

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kind of whining about it.

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Well, it's not he's not being a whiner. He's being

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whacked in the head with a sword and like shoved around.

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He's being like physically harmed. These games are like, let's

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play a game where I chase you and hit you.

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Well, it didn't start that way.

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It was pretty immediate. This is this is the dichotomy.

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When you have one person who's an who is an

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older sibling, and one person who was a younger.

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Sibling, there is a there's a different points of view,

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I would say, so, so that's kind of that's kind

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of the introduction though to uh, to Peter is just

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learning a little bit about his childhood. And we do

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come back to that scene later because it doesn't really

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that's not all of it. Yeah, But then we get

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to the present day and Peter is a grown adult.

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He is a chef and he's got a cooking show.

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Called Bitter Feast.

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Yeah, called the Feast or Bitter Feast.

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Oh no, no, no, not Bitter Feast, No, it was just feast. Yeah,

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it's just feast, yeah, yeah, which I thought was like nice,

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but a little odd of a just feast, yeah, feast

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with with Peter Gray.

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So we we get an immediate sense for Peter's personality

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as an adult, because he's very excitedly talking about the

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meal that they're going to be making and talking about

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where he's sourced different ingredients from the meal. And his

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co host is this lady, and she's kind of just

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playing up everything for laughs, which is generally what a

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co host on a cooking show is going to be

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there for a bit of levity.

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Well, they're they're very different people. She is a an attractive,

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much younger, blonde woman, fully made up, dressed, very cute,

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and he is a very serious, pretentious, you know, bearded,

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bespectacled guy. In his ways, he's almost he's almost. He'd

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be a hipster if he was, if he was able

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to be self aware. But I don't think he is.

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I think he's too obsessive, you know, about about what

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he's doing. Yeah, but yeah, so, I mean she's kind

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of being his foil. But in my opinion, she's being

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like a little too foily, like she's kind of belittling

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what he's doing, which I could see how frustrating, that

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would be, especially when, like the whole point of the

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show originally was to showcase his cooking ability and to

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showcase his recipes and and his his theories about food

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and and and his like you were saying, his interest

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in locally sourced things, and and and you know, all

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the science of food and all of the communal aspects

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of food, et cetera, et cetera. And she's just kind

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of like making jokes out of it, you know, And

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you know, I think he could take it a little

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less seriously, but her jabs do feel awfully.

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Yeah, they are sharper, and you get the sense that

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he resents it because the jokes are so low.

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Brow too well, and because she's clearly forced on him.

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He would never want to hang out with that woman.

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No, never, And she doesn't seem like she'd want to

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have much to do with him either, and not even

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just because he's being mean to her, which he is

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being very combative, is even on the air, but especially

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off you know, as soon as the cameras aren't rolling,

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he's you know, belittling her and demeaning her and raising

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his voice at her. So, yeah, there is not good

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blood there. So as soon as the show is wrapped,

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he's having a talk with somebody who I'm assuming is

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the producer, kind of like a coming to Jesus, almost

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saying like, hey, you've got to get along with your

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co host or else the show could get canceled because

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basically she's the only thing that brings in the ratings.

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And Peter's response is I don't care about the ratings,

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to which the producer responds like, okay, well that's fine,

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you don't have to care about the ratings, but your

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show's not getting picked back up next next season because

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it doesn't get any good ratings. And I love how

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we get to learn so much about Peter as a

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person through this interaction because he's trying to stay composed

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because it's very obvious that the show was just like

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a means to an end, like it's a way to

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get himself out there, but it's not the thing that

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he's really passionate about. What he's passionate about is the restaurant.

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And when he gets to the restaurant, he gets pulled

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aside by the restaurant manager kind of doing the same thing,

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giving him like a come to Jesus talk, like, hey,

454
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:13.640
nobody wants to come to the restaurant anymore, because the

455
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:16.839
only thing that's keeping your name in the people's eye

456
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:19.279
is your TV show, and we heard that's going to

457
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:21.880
get canceled, and you just got a really bad review

458
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.720
from this food blogger, so now nobody even wants you're cooking.

459
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:28.839
And this is when we get introduced to j T,

460
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:34.720
who is he's written a very nasty, scathing review of

461
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:41.079
Peter's cooking in the restaurant, and the restaurant manager kind

462
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.599
of explains, like, we've got to let you go because

463
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.839
of all this unless you're willing to change the menu

464
00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:50.599
to kind of fit the modern times and modern tastes

465
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.680
in what people want. And Peter doesn't want to sacrifice

466
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:59.160
his artistic art integrity because he already made it known

467
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:03.680
that he didn't want to sacrifice his artistic integrity for

468
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.799
the show, which he didn't care about. He's definitely not

469
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:09.559
going to give it up here at the restaurant. So

470
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:13.960
he gets fired, and as he's walking out, there's a

471
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:18.160
vase at like the entryway of the restaurant, and he

472
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.880
picks up flowers from the vase and throws it on

473
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:29.160
the ground like and storms out like a petulant child.

474
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.079
And the hostess at the restaurant even looks at the

475
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:36.599
restaurant manager and just mounts like what the hell, because

476
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:40.680
like this is his behavior. He is just so self

477
00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:45.640
absorbed that he thinks that storming out after being fired

478
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:47.480
is like the way to go.

479
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:48.960
What are they going to do? Fire him?

480
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.839
Yeah, I guess he's already, you know, he's already been fired.

481
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:54.759
Well, when we get back, we'll learn a little bit

482
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:59.359
more about mister J. T. Franks and how how they

483
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:18.079
cant right after this. Now we're following mister Peter Gray

484
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:23.279
home to his little cottage in upstate New York. The

485
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:25.839
film takes place in New York City, which of course

486
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:30.440
is where the big chefs generally, at the very least,

487
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.480
that's where they start. Usually the big chefs, unless they

488
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.759
were say from Los Angeles, or from Las Vegas, or

489
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:42.960
from Miami, Florida or thereabouts, or Austin, Texas or thereabouts.

490
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:48.039
Usually otherwise, their first restaurants are going to be in

491
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.920
New York City, right and if they're very successful, then

492
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:54.960
their goal will be to open one in Los Angeles,

493
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:58.720
and in Chicago and then in London. You know, that's

494
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:02.000
the goal is to keep ex banding these restaurants. But

495
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:04.480
of course he didn't even have his own restaurant. He

496
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:06.680
was just the head chef at one, which is a

497
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.759
little odd, but maybe that wasn't that odd and twenty

498
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.240
ten Actually yeah, I don't know. I don't know how

499
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:14.160
common it was for these superstar chefs to own their

500
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:18.480
restaurants at that point. But it's but now that we

501
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.279
see him at his home, he's of course cooking, and

502
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.359
I love this sequence because I feel like we really

503
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.000
get to know a lot about him by watching him

504
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:36.000
cut up, dice up vegetables and prepare butter and all

505
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:43.920
this stuff, because he has this mentality of exactness and experience.

506
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.480
But he's also very happy the whole time he's doing it,

507
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:54.000
not like blaring smiles, but just a contentment with what

508
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:57.960
he's focused on. And MY favorite moment though, is when

509
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.200
it's all done and he takes a bite of the

510
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:02.920
food as he like, I think he puts on the

511
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.920
TV or something, and the look on his face because

512
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:08.519
what he made is excellent, you know, he just takes

513
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.920
a bite and he's like, oh, you know that's I

514
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.400
love that because I I am one of those people

515
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.119
that believes that if you are a creative person. And granted,

516
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:24.200
creating food is very different from creating books or creating

517
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:28.559
movies or creating music. It is different. It's consumed, but

518
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:32.279
it's not the same type of consumption. But I think

519
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.640
there's no shame in enjoying what you make. I've I've

520
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.720
always been flabbergasted when people say like, oh, I can't

521
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.640
stand seeing myself on the screen. I'm like, well, then

522
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:44.960
why'd you put all the effort into doing it? Like

523
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:47.720
I think, and maybe I'm wrong. I think that's just

524
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:49.799
something people say because they think that that's what you're

525
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.680
supposed to say, like, because that's endearing, versus saying like, hell,

526
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:57.480
yeah I was awesome. I you've been with I will

527
00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:59.759
be like, hell yeah I was awesome. I just am

528
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:03.279
like that now you are. I'm not always that that

529
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:06.119
like that way.

530
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:07.799
No, but you're never self deprecating.

531
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.000
Oh no, I'll be like, yeah, I think it turned

532
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:11.960
out great, or I thought it turned out pretty damn good.

533
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:14.599
You know. I'm never like, uh, can you believe it?

534
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:17.240
It's like that's so stupid. Yeah, I mean, and if

535
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:19.160
you really feel that way, it makes me wonder what

536
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.319
your motive is to keep doing it, Like is it

537
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:27.039
just to keep self deprecating or I saw an actress

538
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:28.640
one time at a movie screening and it was the

539
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.920
first time she'd seen herself on the big screen, and

540
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:33.599
I was like, how did it feel to like see

541
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:35.880
yourself on a movie theater screen? And she was like, well,

542
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.960
you know, I'm always my own worst critic. All I

543
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.400
could think about was everything I did wrong. And I

544
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.119
was like, well, can I give you some advice? And

545
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.599
she's like what, And I'm like, I was that way

546
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.480
for like a good twelve years of my life. Way

547
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:52.200
better On the other side, if you learn to enjoy it,

548
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:52.920
it's way better.

549
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:53.839
Yeah.

550
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:56.559
I often think about this, and I'll leave this point.

551
00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:59.680
There may be a lot of creativity pontificating in this

552
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.440
episod of, because to me, that's what the movie is about.

553
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:08.960
It's about criticism and passion and creation and perversion. I

554
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.319
do think that a perversion in the broad sense, not

555
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:15.640
in the sexual sense, but like, to me, the best

556
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.039
example I can think of is, of all people, Gilbert Godfreed.

557
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.079
You know, Gilbert, the idea is okay in the audience.

558
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.200
I hope you do too. The guy who sounds kind

559
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:25.559
of like.

560
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:30.240
This Iago from the Latin Sure.

561
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:35.359
And aflac Duck and you know all this, and the

562
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.359
host one of the hosts of USA Up All Night,

563
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:40.640
and he was just a phenomenal stand up comedian, one

564
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:42.920
of the funniest human beings on earth in my opinion,

565
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:46.400
And we lost him a few years back. And I

566
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:49.240
still like hate that there's a world without Gilbert Gottfried

567
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.440
in it. But my favorite thing is I heard from

568
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.480
multiple sources when they would tell stories about like going

569
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.119
to Gilbert's house to see him, that they would come

570
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.559
in and Guilbert it would be sitting on his couch

571
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:05.599
watching his own stand up acts on TV and laughing.

572
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:11.800
And all I could think was, like, that is goals.

573
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:17.760
For real, That is goals, Because talk about a free joy,

574
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:20.119
that you do something for a living and you're good

575
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:23.239
at it and you love it, you love what you're doing.

576
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:24.840
You should be able to do that. Now, I'm not

577
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:28.440
saying that that means you know that, I, by any

578
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:32.559
stretch sit and watch my movies every week or even

579
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:36.679
I probably watch my own films I've directed. I probably

580
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.239
watch like three or four of them a year. Yeah,

581
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.039
it's probably around that. If I'm not actively making it. Yeah,

582
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:43.760
So I'm not saying that I sit around watching my

583
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:47.119
stuff all the time. But I like my movies. I do. Yeah,

584
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:49.360
you know, when I sit down and watch Awkward Thanksgiving,

585
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:51.119
which by the way, is available to watch on two

586
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.280
B TV for free and you should watch it around Thanksgiving,

587
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:58.199
I think. I think it's hilarious and I enjoy it.

588
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.800
So my point is I really just enjoyed the way

589
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.960
he just appreciated his own food with that bite. Yeah.

590
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.559
Absolutely, no, I absolutely agree. And you've learned so much

591
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.079
about him very quick in sequence.

592
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:15.960
Well, chefs have to be several things at once. Usually,

593
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:20.159
much like artists, they have to be disciplined and meticulous,

594
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:24.840
but they also have to be emotional and spontaneous at

595
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:29.159
the same time. And that's a tall order. That's not

596
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:35.920
really two mentalities that go hand in hand very often. Yeah. So,

597
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:41.360
but we're about to find out something dark in his history,

598
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:45.159
which is also another typical artist thing if we're honest,

599
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.880
is that he has a dark past that he's you know,

600
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.320
working out as he creates beautiful things for people to eat.

601
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.119
And we'll dive into that right after this.

602
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:13.960
So, after enjoying his delicious homemade meal. We get a

603
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:19.800
flashback to that initial scene where he was a child

604
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.800
and he was being beat up by his older brother,

605
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.760
and his older brother starts chasing him through the woods

606
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:32.960
and Peter starts running off. He's clearly been abused by

607
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:37.039
his older sibling like this before, and he takes off,

608
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:41.280
starts running and trips and hurts his ankle, and his

609
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.840
brother like just runs up and jumps on top of

610
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.320
him him starts beating him up and then like goes

611
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:47.519
to strangle him.

612
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:52.400
Yeah, and Peter, little.

613
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:56.440
Kid, you know, he's trying to push his brother off

614
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:58.360
and he can't like get him off of him, so

615
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:03.199
he grabs a stick and just stabs him in the neck. Yeah,

616
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:07.639
right in the neck, and you know, blood everywhere and

617
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:12.199
obviously very traumatizing to little Peter. And he just gets

618
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:16.400
up and just kind of you know, takes a deep

619
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:20.760
breath and walks off into the woods. And then we

620
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.440
go back to the present day, and that really sets

621
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:28.199
the scene. Lets you know, kind of the demons that

622
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:34.400
Peter is dealing with and why he's so intense.

623
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:38.119
Now, Yeah, I mean I would say I would say

624
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:41.239
so and and but that's you know, kind of the

625
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:44.039
like I was mentioning before the break, that's kind of

626
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:49.559
the the art thing is like that there's some element

627
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.639
of themselves, you know that torments. Yeah, that makes you,

628
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:57.880
makes you great or whatever. This would be a decent

629
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:04.960
combination with like Whiplash. Oh yeah, although Whiplash is in

630
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:09.559
a horror movie, but it may as well be for real. Yeah,

631
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:15.480
it's my fucking tempo, my fucking tempo. Yeah, it's a phenomenal.

632
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:18.440
Let's just do a show about Whiplash.

633
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:20.239
We could if we really, I mean, it's our show.

634
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.800
It's a great film anyway, it's more of a tense

635
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.119
film than a scary film. Yeah, but no, So so

636
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:31.519
now we know a little bit about his background. We

637
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:33.719
know that he was bullied, We know that he stood

638
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:36.760
up for himself, but that it went about as like

639
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.480
awry as it can. Yeah, which is, you know, not

640
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.239
not great, No, not a great thing to happen. So

641
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:51.239
could be better, It could be. I suppose it depends

642
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:52.239
on whose side you're on, I guess.

643
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:56.719
Yeah, But then then it's time to look at the.

644
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:58.960
Food critic, Yes, J T. Franks.

645
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:03.760
Yeah, so it's modern day. We're in a restaurant and

646
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.400
it's it's a beautiful sequence of just like close up

647
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:12.880
shots of beautiful looking food. Yeah, and you know he's

648
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:16.000
taking the small bites and you know you see the

649
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:19.079
close ups of him like really and you and I

650
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:21.599
since we smoke cigars, you know, like there's ways that

651
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:25.079
you taste things where you taste things more. Yeah, when

652
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:28.400
you interact with like your palette versus just the tongue or.

653
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.559
Yeah, you chew with little air. You're trying to work

654
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:32.440
your old factories and stuff like that.

655
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:36.199
Yeah. So he's you know, doing all that and stops

656
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:39.199
and you know, sits and writes in his notebook, and

657
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:43.280
waitress comes over and asks as if everything is okay,

658
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:48.559
and he just kind of bemoans everything and says, I

659
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:51.440
would just like a little joy.

660
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:53.760
Yeah, yeah, which.

661
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:57.679
Is so so pretentious.

662
00:39:58.079 --> 00:39:59.719
Well, and the fact of the matter is if you're

663
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.960
gonna put yourself out into the world, whether it's cooking

664
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:06.480
or writing poetry or whatever, you're gonna get somebody who's

665
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:10.599
gonna be like, it's okay, but it doesn't really solve

666
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:16.800
all my problems. And you're like, okay, I thought I

667
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.039
was just trying to amuse you for like a half

668
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.440
an hour. I didn't realize that what I was supposed

669
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.800
to do is change your life forever. And I think

670
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:30.000
I've talked about that on this show that sometimes I

671
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:33.440
get really frustrated with people who just they just set

672
00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:36.519
the bar too damn high with movies. You'll just be

673
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:38.840
like I hated that or whatever. I'm like, what was

674
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:40.360
wrong with this movie?

675
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:41.360
Like?

676
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.760
What did I you know, did I leave a changed person?

677
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:46.119
No?

678
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:51.960
But did I walk out thoroughly entertained for that ninety minutes? Yes?

679
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.119
What more do you want to, like for twelve to

680
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:58.119
fourteen bucks in a movie theater or three ninety nine

681
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:02.039
at home or just your Netflix subscription? Like, don't I

682
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.239
don't think that you should expect every experience to be

683
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:09.079
that way. But on the flip side of that, though,

684
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.079
a lot of these places that he's going to and

685
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:16.199
reviewing are charging you know, maybe one hundred dollars a plate.

686
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:18.079
Now this is twenty ten, so maybe eight hundred dollars

687
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:21.360
eighty dollars a plate. Yeah, So there is a part

688
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.440
of me that's like, yeah, but what does this do

689
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:25.960
for me that makes it worth this amount of money?

690
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.880
Although I won't lie the few times in my life

691
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:32.599
I've ate food that was sincerely so expensive it made

692
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:36.440
no sense. I was never buying, which is number one

693
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.199
the best part. But I will say it was shockingly good.

694
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:42.559
I mean, I can I can believe it. I can

695
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.000
believe it. I've just never been in the position to

696
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:46.039
have that kind of food.

697
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:48.920
I've I've lucked out a couple of times. I got

698
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:51.400
to eat line caught sushi at a restaurant where there

699
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.159
were no prices on the menu.

700
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.360
And I'm still mad at you, and we.

701
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:59.519
Ordered nine plates of food. We just kept ordering food.

702
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.280
That's what That's what what he said to do. The

703
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.280
guy I was there with, he was buying. He was like,

704
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:06.119
he was like, let's just order some stuff that we

705
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.400
could just order more as we go. So we were

706
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:10.920
just like, we would eat a bunch of fish, and

707
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:12.840
then he'd be like, let's get some mackerel and get

708
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.079
some more of those rolls, and then we just eat

709
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.599
that and they'd be like, let's get some of this

710
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:18.440
and this. But the second meal we did, we went

711
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:22.239
out and got veal, and again at a restaurant with

712
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:23.880
no prices on the menu.

713
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:26.719
I can't even fathom.

714
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:29.800
It is weird. It is weird to have no prices

715
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:31.400
on the menu. So but my point is, so I

716
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.000
can also see where there's an attitude of like, well,

717
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:38.360
what is what? How is this worth this much?

718
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:39.320
Yeah?

719
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:41.719
But that being said, he's asking where is you know,

720
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:45.480
could I get some joy, which is strange to me.

721
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:48.559
And then he and he's like swinging the wine yeah,

722
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:50.960
and just kind of wrapping up this meal. And all

723
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:55.639
I can think is like, you make a living eating fancy.

724
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:58.360
Food, yeah, and then complaining about it.

725
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:00.840
That's the kicker, that's the entertainment value.

726
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:01.159
Yeah.

727
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.599
Yeah. Well, and that's the hardest thing about criticisms is

728
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:05.519
it's really hard to be a critic if you're not

729
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.920
going to be mean, because that's what people pay for.

730
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:10.719
I mean, that's what they want, that's what they don't

731
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:12.400
pay for, but you know that's what people want to.

732
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:13.599
That's what they show for.

733
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:16.760
Well, it's like we it goes back to caveman days.

734
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:20.280
You know, you really really remember when you're told a

735
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:26.480
sabertoothed tiger lives in that cave, because that's important, Yeah,

736
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.960
to remember. So I get that, you know, I I

737
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:33.000
do get that, But it's it's kind of become this

738
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:36.920
self defeating thing with critics criticism where it's like it

739
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.480
has to be the worst thing I've ever seen. It

740
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.079
has to be so terrible you'll never want to watch

741
00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:44.159
another movie for the rest of your life. It can't

742
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:46.360
just be like I didn't mind it, or oh, you know,

743
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:49.320
it was pretty good. It can't. And there's an episode

744
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:52.159
of The Simpsons where Homer becomes a food critic and

745
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:59.119
the entire city gets fat because he loves every single restaurant,

746
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:01.639
Like he says, replaces the best food he ever had

747
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.480
because he just loves to eat. So the whole town

748
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:06.880
is like getting bigger and bigger and fatter and fatter.

749
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.920
So there is something to be said for I mean,

750
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:12.800
I you know me, I like to be a good

751
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:14.480
audience to just about anything. I mean, I'll tell you

752
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.360
if I didn't love something, But like I try to

753
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:19.960
like the things I watch and the things I eat

754
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.079
and stuff like that. Yeah, so I don't know. But

755
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:26.519
this guy, he's clearly got an axe to grind, that

756
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:31.840
he's got some anger in him, and I think we

757
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.800
get to find out a little bit about his personal

758
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:38.519
life when he's done swinging his wine and harassing the

759
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:41.559
weight staff. But we'll have to wait till after this

760
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:58.039
to find out. So now, let's follow what's his name, JT.

761
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:03.400
Franks to his hip you know, probably upper east side

762
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:09.440
apartment where we're introduced to his girlfriend wife.

763
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.119
Sorry I initially thought girlfriend too, but yeah, it is

764
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:13.639
his wife.

765
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:20.400
Yeah, name Peg, I believe. No, no, no, no, maybe hold on, no, no,

766
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.599
it's it's Catherine, Okay, because Peg was the actor that

767
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:27.599
was the woman that works with the chef.

768
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:28.320
That's right.

769
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:34.800
Yeah, so that's a Catherine Frank's. Sorry. I was looking

770
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:36.519
at the cast thing and there aren't a lot of

771
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:39.679
characters in this, so I was like, female names, female names.

772
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.079
And she is just hanging out just in the apartment

773
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.039
in a night shirt and or underwear, which I think

774
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.840
is the perfect way to establish a girlfriend or wife

775
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:53.960
in a movie. Yeah, just because it establishes like their

776
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:56.440
home and they're comfortable.

777
00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:57.119
Exactly.

778
00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:58.679
It is that they just don't care that they're like

779
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.440
walking around in their underwears. Yeah, and they're underwears. Give

780
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:06.239
give s gives so, but she's just kind of hanging

781
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:09.639
out and he is feverishly typing away on his computer

782
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:15.119
and uh, getting ready to update the gastro Punk's website.

783
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:20.559
Does it does it like physically pain you every time

784
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:21.559
you have to say the name.

785
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:24.480
No, it physically pains me every time I remember it.

786
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.159
No, No, I thought you had more.

787
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:35.280
I mean, it's like it's like the whole term gastro pub.

788
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:36.679
Yeah.

789
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:41.679
I hate Yeah, that term. It's just so stupid. Yeah,

790
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:43.039
dumb gastro pub.

791
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:43.239
No.

792
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:46.519
I I get it because I am not a fan either.

793
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:51.199
I just relish in your pain, so that's fair.

794
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:55.960
Yeah, yeah, I mean I I mustard in your pains.

795
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.119
But but so they're they're their home.

796
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:06.079
Yeah, they're home. He's typing away and she has printed

797
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:11.760
out some of his past quote unquote reviews, and she's

798
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:15.119
reading them as he's typing, and it's almost it almost

799
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.880
seems like he's inspired by all of the mean stuff

800
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:20.559
that he had said before, and he's kind of like, yeah,

801
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:25.360
those those pretty great. And she's almost aghast at how mean,

802
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:29.159
Like not just oh this is mean and critical, but

803
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:32.599
like downright mean, like almost getting to the point of

804
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:35.599
telling people like, you should quit cooking or you should

805
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:39.239
kill yourself because the food was so bad, and not

806
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:42.599
even so bad that I got sick, just so bad

807
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:46.079
because it didn't live up to my expectations of perfection,

808
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:52.440
which is not great. And she's kind of asking like,

809
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.039
do you need to be this mean? Do you need

810
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:57.239
to be this critical? And he makes the point like

811
00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:01.119
you said that this is what people come to his

812
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:05.119
blog four, Like this is how he makes money is

813
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:07.960
by being means. So it's not like he can just

814
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:11.840
pump the breaks because this is what he does for

815
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:15.360
a living. And she says that, you know, yeah, of

816
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:18.760
course he's always been a critic, but she's noticed that

817
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:22.320
over the past couple of years it's been worse and

818
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:26.840
now we're starting to dig deeper. So he says, yeah,

819
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.400
of course things have gotten worse, and they get into

820
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:34.079
a really pretty bad argument and he says, like he's

821
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.719
realized that he doesn't care about her anymore.

822
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:42.679
Well he before that, he kind of says the thing, Yeah, okay,

823
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:46.159
he says the thing about, you know, having your child die.

824
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.199
Kind of does that, he said, Yeah, he says that

825
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:51.639
before he even says anything about how he feels about

826
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.760
their marriage. Yeah, so we we get the hint that

827
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:56.039
they lost a.

828
00:48:56.079 --> 00:49:00.800
Child because oh, because that's what it was is. She

829
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:03.599
tries to kind of diffuse things and mentions going to

830
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:07.960
an appointment in the day, you know, the next morning,

831
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:12.239
and he mentions like Oh, he can't stand hospitals. So

832
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:15.679
that's the first like little hint. And then she asks

833
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.880
even if he even wants to try having another kid,

834
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:21.920
which is the other little hint, and then you know,

835
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.320
it kind of escalates, and then that's when he drops

836
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:26.599
the you know, having your kid die thing. So we

837
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:32.039
realize that while he has always been a food critic,

838
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:36.679
he's probably taking out a lot of his pain at

839
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:44.639
losing his child on all these people and on everything too, Yeah,

840
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:48.800
on everybody. Like he's he's gone into self destruct mode,

841
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:52.519
really is what it is. And it seems like he's

842
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:57.360
gotten a good audience, so like that's extra encouragement. So yeah,

843
00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:59.800
he admits to her like he doesn't care. He didn't care,

844
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.400
he doesn't care about trying to have another kid, he

845
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:04.840
doesn't care about their marriage, he doesn't care about her.

846
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:08.599
So she leaves and he kind of you know, there's

847
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:12.679
a sequence where he's like restless and walking around his apartment,

848
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.400
goes to start writing his novel and then stops and

849
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:20.159
then you know sits there drinking and just kind of languishing,

850
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:24.119
and then we go back to Peter in his little

851
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:30.679
homestead in upstate New York and at first he's there

852
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:35.880
chopping wood, kind of your normal rustic stuff, and then

853
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:41.079
he goes inside and he's got several sets of locks

854
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:44.599
and keys, and he takes them out and he starts

855
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:45.320
marking them.

856
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:48.840
Yeah, he's meticulously numbering them, which.

857
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:54.000
Is interesting but very unsettling. And then we go back

858
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.760
to JT. And he's kind of meandering around his house

859
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:05.840
very he seems he seems very suspicious and very restless.

860
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:09.960
And the movie does a great job of building the tension.

861
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:12.480
You know what's going to happen, you just don't know when.

862
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:17.960
And he's acting, you know, really scared as he's leaving

863
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:20.920
his apartment building, and we really think that somebody is

864
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.119
going to come and get him, Like while he's in

865
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:31.639
the staircase, sorry like stairwell, stairwell, we really think somebody

866
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:33.320
is going to get him in the stairwell. But he

867
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:37.480
gets out of the stairwell, we start feeling like he's safe,

868
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:41.760
and then someone comes up from behind and him it's

869
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:45.039
hits him in the head and he blacks out and

870
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:48.280
when he wakes up, he's chained up in a basement

871
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:54.840
and Peter comes down to you know, down these stairs

872
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.599
and shining a light in his eyes and kind of

873
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:03.440
takes some out and it's it's a beautiful shot of

874
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:06.440
them coming out from a cellar. And at first we

875
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.960
don't really notice or can't really see what's happening because it's,

876
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:12.719
you know, such a wide shot. And then we see

877
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:17.400
Peter motion with a rifle and he starts leading JT

878
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:22.559
off into the woods. So we realize very quickly that

879
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:27.079
things are not looking great for JT because he's all

880
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:30.239
chained up. He's being led through the woods in the

881
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:34.880
middle of nowhere. And and it's great because JT says

882
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.079
something like he could run away, he could escape, like

883
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.039
he could he could get back to civilization, and Peter

884
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:42.960
just points the rifle in the air, pulls the trigger

885
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:45.960
and says, yeah, I don't think we're in the middle

886
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:47.760
of nowhere, but we're pretty close.

887
00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:51.920
Yeah, And I mean he fires the gun and he's

888
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:55.480
like nobody nobody cares, like, yeah, nobody can hear anything.

889
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.880
And the first thing he does is hand him a bucket.

890
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:03.119
But what he has to do with that bucket you'll

891
00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:17.679
have to wait to find out till after this. JT's

892
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:20.719
got this bucket and he's told that he needs to

893
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:25.800
go down to the creek and gather water, then take

894
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.320
the water back to his tree, and as long as

895
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:33.599
he does those things, he can drink. And we get

896
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:36.519
the impression it's been at least a day that he

897
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:42.719
has had no food or water, so he's being forced

898
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:47.679
to do this and to follow these instructions. So of

899
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:50.239
course he gets down there, he gets water from the

900
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:54.559
bucket he's walking along. He's of course exhausted and confused,

901
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:59.719
and his hands are tied very strangely, very tightly, and

902
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:02.639
he he walks along with the bucket. But what does

903
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:04.800
he do. He stops to rest for a minute and

904
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:08.079
sneaks a sip of the water. I think he just

905
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:10.000
grabs it with his hand and like sucks down some

906
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:15.760
of the water. So not acceptable, did not follow the rules,

907
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:21.079
So he gets the water gets spilled. Peter just spills

908
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:22.760
the water out and tells him like, I guess you

909
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:26.480
have to try again tomorrow, yep. And that kind of

910
00:54:26.519 --> 00:54:30.719
sets the tone for the whole movie is this is

911
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:36.440
a person JT. Who, as far as Peter understands, has

912
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:40.679
never done much of anything other than tear down other people.

913
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:45.960
So how about you learn some discipline and you learn

914
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:50.599
how to do the things you claim, because you know

915
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:55.519
you said that Heinland quote earlier, which I felt was

916
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:59.559
an okay quote. But I prefer my version of that,

917
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:02.960
which is those who cannot do teach and those who

918
00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:08.519
cannot teach teach Jim. So that's the version I always liked.

919
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:14.000
That's a good one. You never heard that, No, but

920
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:15.400
I was homeschooled, so.

921
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.400
Well, I mean I guess that, Yeah, I guess that's

922
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:23.519
the excuse for ignorance then, but no, So I get

923
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:26.880
where he's coming from though, this attitude of like, can

924
00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:32.039
you even be like remotely as dedicated and disciplined as

925
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:35.280
I am to my craft when all you are trying

926
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:36.920
to do is drink some water?

927
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:37.880
Mm hmmm.

928
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:40.800
I like that. I think that's a like a really

929
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:47.280
fascinating mentality. Oh absolutely, And having to do it at gunpoint,

930
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:50.079
of course, because you know, otherwise why would he And

931
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:54.639
he is you know, very mouthy and very you know, why, like,

932
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:56.559
why would I do this? He's like, because you want

933
00:55:56.559 --> 00:56:00.000
to drink, don't you? Three days? That's about how long

934
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:04.920
you have without water. Yep. So I thought that was

935
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:08.679
a really great way to kind of begin what is

936
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:12.280
going to be going down, And of course while this

937
00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:15.920
is all happening. I know it's coming up soon, but

938
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:19.679
we were getting ready to meet the private investigator yep,

939
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:26.039
named William Coley played by Larry Fesden, who starts sniffing

940
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:31.880
around Peter Gray because he's been hired by the wife

941
00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:35.360
to figure out what happened to JT. Franks. He does

942
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:39.760
mention at one point that his website gets forty thousand

943
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:43.719
hits a day. Yeah, so someone's gonna notice I'm missing.

944
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:46.840
Of course, before that, he had literally told his wife, like,

945
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:49.400
I don't care about you at all, go away, and

946
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:51.199
then she went away, and then he wasn't there when

947
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:52.719
she came home, which I'm sure didn't see.

948
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:55.559
Odd, Yeah, because they just had a huge fight.

949
00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:56.119
Yeah.

950
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:59.079
Really, he could be going somewhere, he could be going

951
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:00.280
to visit his family.

952
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:03.039
But the fact that he's not answering his phone, you know.

953
00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:04.679
That's a little concerning.

954
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:09.400
It's worrying. So he's just asking questions. And he's a

955
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:13.000
great side character. He's very very quirky, very fun. He's

956
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:17.559
always chewing on swizzle sticks and straws and doing the

957
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:20.159
whole like you know, and I was a cop. We

958
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:23.079
always thought blob like he's just you know, pontificating and

959
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:24.360
being kind of kooky.

960
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:26.119
Which, yeah, I love his character.

961
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:28.239
Oh he's he's a great character in Fesden is built

962
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:31.880
for characters like that. That's one of his biggest strengths

963
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:35.519
as an actor. So we have that kind of going

964
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:38.440
on as well and his wife trying to figure out

965
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:40.920
what the heck is going on. But now we get

966
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:47.159
into probably my favorite scene, which is he h, this

967
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:49.639
is this is the one where they're in the basement. Yeah, yes,

968
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.440
they're in the basement and all of a sudden, set

969
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:54.880
up in front of him is a little camping stove

970
00:57:55.159 --> 00:58:02.920
and a cast iron skillet, and Gray pulls out the

971
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:07.119
uh review of a of a breakfast and the review

972
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:11.039
is scathing, saying like even a chimp should be able

973
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:12.079
to make a.

974
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:17.320
Eggsa because first Peter asks him, how do you like

975
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:23.480
your eggs? And you know, JT responds over easy, and

976
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:26.679
Peter pulls out the review and you know, basically says

977
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:29.599
like even a monkey could make eggs over easy. It's

978
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:32.719
super simple. You just put the egg on the skillet

979
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:35.599
two minutes either side, flip it and then you're done.

980
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:37.360
Well that's actually what he said about the steak oh,

981
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:39.079
that's what he said. But yeah, I know you know no,

982
00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:40.920
because I also was almost said that too, and then

983
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:42.519
I remember that that's the steak that comes a little

984
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:44.079
bit later. But that's it's fine.

985
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:50.679
So so JT basically posits that this is this is

986
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:57.039
the challenge because it's been several days now since JT's eaten.

987
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:01.719
So the agreement is the rule are that he can

988
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:06.360
eat as many eggs as he wants, as long as

989
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:12.599
they're cooked medium or cooked over easy to perfection, no

990
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:18.440
ronny yellows. And it's his delivery is just so great

991
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:25.679
because it's almost instructional. It feels like he's hosting a

992
00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:27.039
cooking TV show.

993
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.079
Runny yellows. Yeah, he can have as many eggs as

994
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:33.440
you want, as long as they're cooked to perfection over easy,

995
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:37.280
no runny yellows. And that's the thing that you and

996
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:39.679
I quote from this movie all the time to each

997
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:44.920
other is no running yellows. So he cracks the egg

998
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:48.480
and his hands are tightal weird. He even says like,

999
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:50.039
how can I do it like this? And he doesn't

1000
00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:53.199
even answer it. He's just like, go on. But he

1001
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:55.280
does crack the egg and he does a little chef's

1002
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:58.679
trick where he kind of holds the yolk and then

1003
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:03.000
lets it go, which I've never done or really heard about,

1004
01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:05.440
but I'm sure it's a chef's trick. I also want

1005
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:09.960
to mention that in all the sequences where Peter is cooking,

1006
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:13.239
I don't know if that was actually James le Grosse's hands,

1007
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:17.840
but if they were, he studied because those hands are

1008
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:19.880
impeccably preparing them.

1009
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.400
Oh yeah, like when he's when he's like dicing and

1010
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.119
mincing stuff and he's like got the perfect form.

1011
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:29.199
It's incredible. It's incredible to watch, you know. I guess

1012
01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:30.599
I should have We should open this with like that.

1013
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:33.719
I grew up with a a professional like he wasn't

1014
01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:35.840
really ah, he was like a quasi chef. I mean

1015
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:39.440
he he learned through hard knocks, but like my stepdad

1016
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:42.519
was a was a restaurant tour and a lot of

1017
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:44.599
my kitchen habits came from him.

1018
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:45.400
Uh.

1019
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:47.960
It's why I'm very intense in the kitchen because he

1020
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:51.519
was very intense in the kitchen. I don't know what

1021
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:54.280
I'm not as bad as him. Because he gets the

1022
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:58.280
egg in there, it's sizzling in the pan. He goes

1023
01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:03.480
to flip it over, and then that little bit of

1024
01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:06.559
yoke escapes, which, by the way, is one of the

1025
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:08.800
things I hate, because you like your eggs fried, and

1026
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:13.559
I try my best with them. Well, the real problem

1027
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:16.400
is when the eggs are old, Yeah, they break a

1028
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:19.000
lot easier. But of course these are all farm presh eggs,

1029
01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:23.000
well because they're naturally sourced, of course. But he flips it,

1030
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:26.599
the yellow runs out of it, and as soon a

1031
01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:29.280
he says, uh, running yellow, he grabs the egg to

1032
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:32.480
try and eat it anyway, scarfet and he whacks him

1033
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:37.639
with the burning hot cast iron pan, pulling a chunk

1034
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:40.599
of flesh off the side of his face. And that's

1035
01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:45.400
when you really start to realize, oh, okay, then this

1036
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:50.000
is gonna get pretty brutal, and we'll find out just

1037
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:50.679
how brutal.

1038
01:01:50.960 --> 01:02:08.039
Right after this, so j T comes to in the

1039
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:13.360
basement and he's still chained up, tied up, tied up,

1040
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:17.639
he's gagged, and there's you know, kind of a flickering light,

1041
01:02:18.519 --> 01:02:23.800
and as he regains consciousness, he realizes that he's just

1042
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:26.679
on the floor and the only thing in front of

1043
01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:30.119
him in that cellar in that basement is a TV

1044
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:37.840
and it's broadcasting a live show that Peter is doing

1045
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:38.639
on his cooking.

1046
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:43.519
It's broadcasting the last episode of Feast, Yes, the final episode.

1047
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:48.440
So he's, you know, Peter's like hamming it up for

1048
01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:50.760
the camera, and for once, he doesn't seem to be

1049
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:56.000
like getting ready to jump across the set and strangle

1050
01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:56.960
his co host, like.

1051
01:02:57.039 --> 01:03:00.559
Although she literally sabotages what he's going. Yeah, she.

1052
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:04.800
Hides one of his was it like one of his

1053
01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:05.800
tools or something.

1054
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:07.320
Yeah, it might have been the whisk or something.

1055
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:10.280
I think it was the whisk. But anyway, so he's

1056
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:14.280
he's actually playing nice. But this is like not only

1057
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:18.719
terrifying being in this situation and painful, but this is

1058
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:25.079
really frustrating for JT because now Peter's just toying with him.

1059
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:27.480
Yeah, he's kind of winking at the camera and knowing

1060
01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:28.719
that he's watching.

1061
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:31.239
Like this, he's really doing this show for you.

1062
01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:33.440
But so.

1063
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:39.800
Peter kind of passes out again. The next day he's

1064
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:42.360
woken up or JT passes out again, And the next

1065
01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:47.760
day he's woken up by Peter just stomping down the stairs,

1066
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:53.039
walking right over to him and just yelling wake up,

1067
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:55.840
wake up, wake up, while poking him with a cattle

1068
01:03:55.840 --> 01:04:00.639
prod so cattle prod's and wakes up, wakes him up,

1069
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:04.000
tortures him some more, drags him outside. And it's a

1070
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:07.239
beautiful summer day, summer day, fall day, something like that,

1071
01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:12.519
and there's a grill and Peter's got this beautiful cut

1072
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:16.360
of steak that he's cooked up, and he starts extolling

1073
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:19.679
the virtues of like the fact that this this steak

1074
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:23.880
was you know, hormone free and and you know, raised

1075
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:26.159
right here in the valley, and he knows the farmer

1076
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:28.760
that he bought it from, and just how much better

1077
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:31.760
everything tastes when you get the food directly from the

1078
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:37.679
source and all this, and then asks JT again, how

1079
01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:42.320
do you like your steak? And he says medium, well.

1080
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.840
And medium rare, medium rare. It would have been a

1081
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:46.679
whole different scene.

1082
01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:53.000
You're wrong, You're wrong, and that is why you die.

1083
01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:54.519
He does say medium rare.

1084
01:04:55.280 --> 01:05:01.079
I just there's no yeah, I mean, who who, Well, No,

1085
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:03.239
you're right, I'm sure somebody does. But you know what

1086
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:06.239
I'm saying that they're wrong. I like mistake rare. I

1087
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:08.320
used to say medium rare because I don't trust them

1088
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:11.719
to get it rare. But rare is really where it's

1089
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:12.159
at for me.

1090
01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:15.039
Yeah, yeah, really just like my steaks.

1091
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:17.679
Your steaks are very good, although although I almost always

1092
01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:21.840
get the rarest of them.

1093
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:21.960
So you like it rare?

1094
01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:24.400
Yeah, same with the chicken breast.

1095
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:26.559
I am so sorry about that.

1096
01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:29.840
Yeah, that's hilarious considering what we're talking about, that you

1097
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:33.800
accidentally give us food poisoning. Well, ago, it was your

1098
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:37.039
first experiment with souvi yes.

1099
01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:39.519
In my defense, it was a brand new way of

1100
01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:45.920
cooking for me, and I could have avoided basically three

1101
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:50.840
days of agony for both of us cumulatively if I

1102
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:53.159
would have just remembered, like, oh, yeah, you should use

1103
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:55.960
a thermometer before you serve the meat.

1104
01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:00.280
I mean, you know, And well, it's my own fault two.

1105
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:02.599
Once I started to notice it seemed a little raw,

1106
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:06.679
I just stopped eating. But I probably should have said

1107
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:09.159
something immediately, but I was trying to be polite because

1108
01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:11.079
you really tried hard on that.

1109
01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:14.039
Meal chicken sashimi.

1110
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:19.039
Yu chicken tartar Ooh So anyway.

1111
01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:26.599
Yeah, so JT says medium rare. Peter pulls out another

1112
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:32.920
scathing review, this time about a steak place and says,

1113
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:36.440
you know, basically anyone could make a medium rare steak

1114
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:37.280
and a half.

1115
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:40.800
Three and a half minutes on the other a monkey

1116
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:41.400
could do it.

1117
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:46.320
Yeah, So now the challenge is he has to perfectly

1118
01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:53.280
cook this steak and he's allowed to eat. And JT

1119
01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:56.079
is more and more broken now, like he's he's kind

1120
01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:59.360
of past the bargaining point and he's really just like

1121
01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:02.800
accepting like this is this is going to go on

1122
01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:06.559
for a while. So he's just trying to comply now.

1123
01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:10.239
So he really does try to cook the steak, even

1124
01:07:10.280 --> 01:07:12.400
though like his hands are tied up all weird and

1125
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:15.639
he really doesn't have the proper tools to be because

1126
01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:17.400
he's just only got like a fork.

1127
01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:19.440
You can cook a steak with just a.

1128
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:21.079
Fork with your hands tied up.

1129
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:23.239
I mean, I don't see how would be any different.

1130
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:24.000
I mean that's fair.

1131
01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:26.400
I'm just saying, I mean, like what like cooking a

1132
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:28.199
steak is. I mean, I'm not saying cooking a steak

1133
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:30.960
is easy, but I mean, like the concept like if

1134
01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:34.320
I'm cooking, like just quickly cooking a steak or whatever,

1135
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:36.639
or even like a piece of fish or a piece

1136
01:07:36.679 --> 01:07:40.000
of chicken, if it's unless it's a really flaky piece

1137
01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:41.760
of fish, I can just do it all with a

1138
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:42.719
with a fork.

1139
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.760
Yeah, it was a very fatty piece though. It was

1140
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:46.840
like kind of coming apart.

1141
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:50.639
Yeah, it should be easier to not overdo if it's fatty.

1142
01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:58.039
It should be in theory, in theory, in theory. So

1143
01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:02.039
he tries making the steak. Peter takes it off the grill. He's,

1144
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:05.360
you know, cutting it up, talking kind of monologuing a

1145
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:12.679
little bit and and gets increasingly upset and incense until

1146
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:17.760
he growls and your steak is overdone and spits it

1147
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:20.159
out and starts beating him.

1148
01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:23.000
Well, he throws his sake out into the woods first,

1149
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:25.239
which is, you know, just great because that's his food.

1150
01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:28.359
And I want to mention that My favorite moment of

1151
01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:30.000
that scene though, is when he takes this, when he

1152
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:32.319
says like it's done, and he's like okay, and he

1153
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:34.119
like takes it on the plate and he goes to

1154
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:36.039
start cutting into it. I just imagine the guy going

1155
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:39.520
it has to rest for five to ten minutes. Holdover cooking.

1156
01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:42.800
Yeah, you said that last night, and I nearly died.

1157
01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:46.039
I was raised in a very intense kitchen, although we

1158
01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:50.039
almost never had steak so well, yeah, but holdover cooking

1159
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:54.760
was something I heard pretty especially with eggs. Yeah, yeah,

1160
01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:56.560
like pull him out now, holdover cooking.

1161
01:08:56.920 --> 01:09:00.000
Yeah, they will keep kick cooking for a little while,

1162
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:06.239
keep kicking, keep kicking, kicking, kicking. So uh tosses his

1163
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:09.680
steak into the bushes. There's they get in, you know,

1164
01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:12.319
starts beating him. They get into a kind of a

1165
01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:15.760
fight because JT is able to kind of like get

1166
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:19.199
kind of get a hold of him, and JT bites

1167
01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:25.119
uh Peter's hand like really bad, like and spits it out,

1168
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:27.800
spits it out, and Peter picks it up and like

1169
01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:29.920
tries putting it back on that whole thing.

1170
01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:31.079
Uh.

1171
01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:37.439
So that's you know, that's great. That's a fun afternoon,

1172
01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:38.359
of course.

1173
01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:42.560
Well, I mean I think it was a very educational

1174
01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:46.560
after you because I don't think you can teach greatness

1175
01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:50.439
of cooking with kindness, just like you can't train an

1176
01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:52.920
elephant to do circus stuff by being nice.

1177
01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:56.279
Yeah, that's just said that to me so many times.

1178
01:09:56.279 --> 01:09:57.560
You can't train that with kindness.

1179
01:09:57.800 --> 01:09:59.680
You can't teach that with kindness. That's that's like my

1180
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:02.399
favorite way to ruin any time you're watching any kind

1181
01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:05.359
of like circus thing. And a lot of people hate

1182
01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:07.159
the circus but like, yeah, that's always it's like an

1183
01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:09.800
elephant's doing like some standing trick. I'm just can't teach

1184
01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:12.680
that with kindness. It's just a nice way to ruin

1185
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:16.039
your day. But speaking of ruining your day, things are

1186
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.479
about to get a whole hell of a lot darker

1187
01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:19.680
right after this.

1188
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:37.039
So we're following Peter. He is back at the studio,

1189
01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:40.920
the crews having some kind of like wrap party or something.

1190
01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:45.119
Yeah yeah, they're popping champagne and given speeches and.

1191
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:49.720
The producers being very nice. Which producers, that's like their

1192
01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:51.760
job is to be nice until they're not.

1193
01:10:52.119 --> 01:10:57.079
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1194
01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:57.840
And you know, basically saying ah, you did a great job,

1195
01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:01.000
and like you brought you know, you people brought all

1196
01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:04.920
these fans together and all this, and and Peter is

1197
01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:08.359
playing the part of being a good cooking show host

1198
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:11.039
and then he kind of SLINKs off to his changing

1199
01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:14.840
room to kind of collect himself, and someone's waiting for

1200
01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:20.960
him there. It's the private investigator. And Peter does a

1201
01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:23.640
very good job of kind of like playing it cool,

1202
01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:30.840
but he's still visibly perturbed that the private investigator is there,

1203
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:33.479
and even you know, even asks point blank like am

1204
01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:36.600
I a person of interest, and the private Investigator's like, hey,

1205
01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:40.800
I'm not a cop. I'm just asking questions because you know,

1206
01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:44.920
the guy's wife is very concerned and like, some things

1207
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:47.640
aren't adding up, and he even says like, and the

1208
01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:52.000
thing is, I can smell bullshit from a mile away,

1209
01:11:52.119 --> 01:11:55.840
and some things aren't adding up. Starts asking about his hand.

1210
01:11:56.279 --> 01:11:59.039
How'd you hurt your hand? I was cooking, Well, what

1211
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:02.479
were you What were you made? Soueflay? What kind of soueflay?

1212
01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:03.920
Cheese?

1213
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:05.279
How was it good?

1214
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:10.359
I think he said. I feel like he's yeah, he

1215
01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:12.640
said something more than yeah, pretty good.

1216
01:12:12.920 --> 01:12:17.119
Pretty good? Uh, which it was a great exchange. It's

1217
01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:20.720
a great way to learn so much about both those characters.

1218
01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:24.880
And uh, I love that scene. And you know, Peter

1219
01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:30.960
kind of excuses himself. The private investigators walks off. He's

1220
01:12:31.159 --> 01:12:33.880
going to his car. We know where this is going

1221
01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:36.479
because he's sitting there waiting in his car, chewing on

1222
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:39.439
a swizzle stick, just trying to play it cool. And

1223
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:46.560
you see Peter's car just pull out suddenly, almost almost

1224
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:49.079
getting t boned by someone else because he's like not

1225
01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:51.760
waiting for the right of way and traffic. So he

1226
01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:56.279
starts tailing him private investigator tails him back, you know,

1227
01:12:56.319 --> 01:13:00.560
to the countryside, sees that his story is actually kind

1228
01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:04.199
of starting to make sense because he had noticed how

1229
01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:07.520
dirty Peter's car was, and Peter soon well, I live

1230
01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:11.319
in the country and driving on those back roads sure enough.

1231
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:15.560
Like it's a rough drive. It's pretty pretty bumpy, pretty.

1232
01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:18.920
Muddy, which, by the way, reminds me after he kidnapped JT.

1233
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:22.079
There's a great sequence when he's cleaning out his car,

1234
01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:25.199
like he's cleaning the back seat and he's cleaning it

1235
01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:28.479
totally like a chef. Yes, like his hands dragging across

1236
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:29.880
and getting all the stuff out.

1237
01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:32.600
And like cupping it up and then cleaning it. You know,

1238
01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:35.560
it's tiny circles exactly.

1239
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:37.680
Yeah. I just wanted to mention that real quick, that like, yeah,

1240
01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:39.920
when he cleans it, he is so cleaning it in

1241
01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:41.800
a chef's a very chefy way.

1242
01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:45.000
Yeah, it's great. That's why I like it is because

1243
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:47.279
there's so much going on with the characters. You learn

1244
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:50.319
so much about the characters just by watching how they

1245
01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:51.359
interact with the world.

1246
01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:54.479
Yeah, and I believe at this point, by the way,

1247
01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:59.079
the private investigator mentions, you guys have something kind of

1248
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:03.800
in common. Your brother disappeared when you were a kid,

1249
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:09.000
and the Franks lost a five year or their five

1250
01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:11.239
year old son to leukemia.

1251
01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:15.239
And Peter was totally okay, all.

1252
01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:19.279
Right, Yeah, well, well, the idea of bringing up something

1253
01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:23.760
like that from the private investigator's standpoint would be to

1254
01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:28.479
try to put you off balance. But also it's possible

1255
01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:32.960
that because he has police department ties and law enforcement ties,

1256
01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:35.359
that he could have asked around and people could have

1257
01:14:35.399 --> 01:14:38.439
told him like that always seemed kind of weird, or

1258
01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:42.239
like the scuttle butt was that they went out together

1259
01:14:42.319 --> 01:14:44.880
and only one son came back, but like, you know,

1260
01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:46.800
nothing came of it because he was a little kid.

1261
01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:50.119
So by putting those feelers out, he's just trying to

1262
01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:54.039
push him off balance, especially if it turns out that

1263
01:14:54.039 --> 01:14:56.960
that's a skeleton in his closet. He wants to make

1264
01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:00.600
sure he's like, I can see your skeletons. So it's

1265
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:04.079
a really interesting sequence. And yeah, but but Peter reacts

1266
01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:08.720
like not at all, completely nonplussed by those questions. Yeah,

1267
01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:10.960
so so now he's followed him all the way out

1268
01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:15.039
into the country, and yeah, his his claims seem pretty.

1269
01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:19.479
Reasonable, especially when he gets inside, when he breaks in

1270
01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:21.920
when he breaks in. Yeah, yeah, he breaks in, and

1271
01:15:21.960 --> 01:15:24.600
he's kind of scoping out the house the inside of

1272
01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:27.680
the house, walks around, and he gets to the fridge,

1273
01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:31.359
opens up the fridge, and what's in the fridge cheese

1274
01:15:31.399 --> 01:15:35.680
to fly, he chef. He sets down his swizzle stick

1275
01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:38.600
and picks is kind of like it was actually kind

1276
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:40.239
of gross. You and I were both grossed out a

1277
01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:41.960
little bit. But he actually takes the plate of the

1278
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.079
soufle out, just takes a bite with his hands and just.

1279
01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:47.920
Good, pretty good.

1280
01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:51.720
Yeah, And then he takes a swig directly from the

1281
01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:52.279
milk jug.

1282
01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:56.319
And it's not just any milk jug. What are those called? Uh,

1283
01:15:56.760 --> 01:16:00.159
it's like not not a decanter, but like you know,

1284
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:02.119
when you're at like a nicer I don't mean like

1285
01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:03.840
a super fancy restaurant, when you're at like a nice

1286
01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:06.279
place where they'll give you like a little jug of

1287
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:09.600
water of your own. It's a little like water vase.

1288
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:12.479
Yeah, and it's not not quite a jug. It's nicer

1289
01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:12.760
than that.

1290
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:16.359
Yeah. Yeah, it's clearly that's like farm fresh milk kept

1291
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:19.520
in a little glass container. And he just swigs down

1292
01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:21.479
some of it and puts it back in the door.

1293
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:23.640
Of the fridge, and I'm like, oh, there's already too

1294
01:16:23.720 --> 01:16:27.319
much bacteria in there. I can tell you stories about

1295
01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:29.800
my weird friends who fight to get their raw milk.

1296
01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:31.920
I don't think it should be illegal for you to

1297
01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:35.399
have raw milk, but uh, there's a reason I think

1298
01:16:35.560 --> 01:16:39.279
you have every right to get diarrhea. Anyway you want,

1299
01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:43.439
I choose it from Rachel and Suved. You might choose

1300
01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:57.760
it that funny.

1301
01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:01.520
The best part was how delayed the react was for me, though.

1302
01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:03.680
Yeah, you felt like a little off. The next day,

1303
01:17:03.720 --> 01:17:07.600
I was horrible, horrible time. I had a raging headache

1304
01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:11.560
and my stomach was just doing tumb backflips, and I thought, oh,

1305
01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:13.920
I just I'm just really exhausted because it was the

1306
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:17.319
end of the you know, the nightmare month of work.

1307
01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:20.279
Not that December will be much easier. It turns out

1308
01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:22.960
December is probably gonna be just as much content in

1309
01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:25.760
some ways. In some ways, they won't be as many novellas.

1310
01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:29.840
But anyway, that's not my point. My point is, Yeah,

1311
01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:34.680
so he's he's wandering around the property and right, and

1312
01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:38.239
at that point, it sure seems like everything this guy

1313
01:17:38.279 --> 01:17:39.359
has said is the truth.

1314
01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:40.760
Mm hmm. It's adding up.

1315
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:43.640
And he's definitely he's definitely made it clear that he's

1316
01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:46.840
going on a hunch and a long shot because he's

1317
01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:49.880
got nothing else to go on. Yes, because when he spoke,

1318
01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:55.920
or when when very soon after this we hear we

1319
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:58.640
don't hear him interact with the wife, but she calls

1320
01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:00.239
to leave him a message and says, like, have heard

1321
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:01.880
from you in a day or so, like gonna get

1322
01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:04.840
an update. So clearly she's clueless as to where the

1323
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:07.399
hell he could be other than, you know, like maybe

1324
01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:10.239
with friends or something. So this guy is definitely like

1325
01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:15.039
chasing away out there lead, probably in part because they

1326
01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:17.399
have a lot of money. Yeah, so she can afford

1327
01:18:17.439 --> 01:18:19.000
to pay him to you know. He's like, I could

1328
01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:22.720
just chase down everything if you want, but it'll cost you,

1329
01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:25.399
you know, so, which is my favorite line, Like you

1330
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:27.880
can't be a private investigator without the line, but it'll

1331
01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:33.600
cost you. So. But just as things seem like they're

1332
01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:38.520
probably all right, they aren't, and we'll talk about that

1333
01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:39.399
right after this.

1334
01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:57.119
So the private investigators snooping around after being gross and

1335
01:18:57.199 --> 01:19:04.920
drinking milk directly from the carton, uh, from the glass. Uh.

1336
01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:09.439
But again he leaves his swizzle stick on the counter

1337
01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:13.000
and walks off. He's walking around the property and it

1338
01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:17.119
seems all quiet, and he starts walking away because like

1339
01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:20.439
he isn't a police officer. He doesn't technically like even

1340
01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:21.479
have a warrant to be there.

1341
01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:24.600
He's no, he's breaking totally. I think the reason he

1342
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:26.560
left his swizzle stick is because he was planning to

1343
01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:27.199
come right back.

1344
01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:31.640
Yeah. But as he's walking around, he hears a very

1345
01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:35.600
muffled voice coming from a cellar door, and he goes

1346
01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:40.520
to investigate, and of course there's JT. So he goes

1347
01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:45.239
down and JT's almost delirious and kind of like, you know,

1348
01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:50.640
at first terrified because he thinks that it's Peter comeback

1349
01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:55.079
to torture him some more. And the private investigator like

1350
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:57.680
manages to calm him down just a little bit and says,

1351
01:19:57.840 --> 01:20:01.439
you know, I'm gonna find something to get your chain's

1352
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:03.680
loose and I'll be right back.

1353
01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:08.319
Yeah. His reaction, the private investigators reaction, is kind of like, okay,

1354
01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:11.680
all right, let's let's like he doesn't seem more like

1355
01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:14.720
totally shocked. He's just kind of like, okay, this leads

1356
01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:16.239
worked out. Let's get you out of here right now.

1357
01:20:16.359 --> 01:20:18.399
So yeah. He even says to him, He's like, I'm

1358
01:20:18.439 --> 01:20:19.880
gonn finder way to get you out of here. I

1359
01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:21.760
will be right back. I promise I will be right back.

1360
01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:23.520
And he's, you know, saying no, no, no, don't go

1361
01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:26.159
and he and he runs off to try and find

1362
01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:29.960
anything to get him loose, because to break into the

1363
01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:33.800
cellar he had to use an axe to cut open

1364
01:20:33.800 --> 01:20:34.239
the chain.

1365
01:20:34.840 --> 01:20:36.560
So he goes back for the acts.

1366
01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:39.479
Which isn't there, but he finds it.

1367
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:45.359
Well, yeah, yeah, he does. He does find it. So

1368
01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:49.760
JT's down in the cellar by himself and the private investor.

1369
01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:53.640
Private investigator kind of shows up in the doorway and

1370
01:20:54.680 --> 01:21:00.760
kind of wobbles down the stairs and just falls forward

1371
01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:03.039
and there's an accent.

1372
01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:08.920
His back better than a back's in your axe. No sorry,

1373
01:21:09.399 --> 01:21:11.600
but no, there's an accents back and he is dead,

1374
01:21:11.760 --> 01:21:13.199
ded dead.

1375
01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:18.840
Yes, And obviously this is very, very traumatizing to JT.

1376
01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:23.399
Then we have a nice, beautiful little hunting excursion with

1377
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:29.520
Peter and he's out in his homestead out in the woods,

1378
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:35.720
hunting a rabbit and picking berries and kind of enjoying

1379
01:21:35.720 --> 01:21:38.680
the scenery. We we throughout the whole movie, we get

1380
01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.000
the sense that he is a very very good shot,

1381
01:21:41.079 --> 01:21:45.560
and he is very very good outdoorsman, Like he's not

1382
01:21:45.880 --> 01:21:49.279
just for show, like he is a good good at

1383
01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:52.840
gathering and like, you know, kind of finding food.

1384
01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:53.199
From the land.

1385
01:21:53.920 --> 01:21:58.039
So then he gets back, he starts making this pain

1386
01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:04.640
painstakingly detailed meal, you know, preparing the rabbit making his

1387
01:22:04.840 --> 01:22:10.640
own pasta, and you know, preparing this sauce. And now

1388
01:22:10.680 --> 01:22:15.800
it's JT's final test. And I think this scene for

1389
01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:22.039
me is truly the scariest psychologically because it's it is

1390
01:22:22.159 --> 01:22:26.279
the moment when we see JT totally give up all hope,

1391
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:30.159
like I was talking about in the beginning. So in

1392
01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:33.720
front of him, in front of JT, there are two

1393
01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:42.039
identical looking dishes, and again Peter pulls out a review

1394
01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:45.560
and this time it's the review that JT gave that

1395
01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:51.560
pretty much cost Peter his whole career. And it's a

1396
01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:58.279
review of this rabbit stew with mulberry or rabbit with

1397
01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:04.239
mulberry rigou And JT's talking about how, you know, he

1398
01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:08.399
feels bad for the rabbit being served with with BlackBerry

1399
01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:10.319
or with mulberry.

1400
01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:12.319
Well, with the very mulberries that they.

1401
01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:18.479
Eat, yes, and talking about how he's talking about how

1402
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:24.159
you know that there's the meal is silly and it's

1403
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:28.720
not a good meal because it's not serious and it's

1404
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:31.520
just this weird kind of who who even would have

1405
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:34.760
done this? And kind of ends His ending thought is

1406
01:23:35.319 --> 01:23:38.560
that by the way he can tell the difference, his

1407
01:23:38.680 --> 01:23:41.479
palette is so refined that he can tell the difference

1408
01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:47.600
between local mulberries and frozen imported mulberry.

1409
01:23:47.279 --> 01:23:52.920
Frozen imported Ecuadorian mulberries, I believe, is what he said. Yeah,

1410
01:23:52.960 --> 01:23:56.960
and that that I'll tell you. Okay. I've been trying

1411
01:23:56.960 --> 01:23:59.960
not to make this show entirely about me bitching about critics,

1412
01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:07.319
but this is where I get his insanity, okay, Because

1413
01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:12.960
it is one thing to say something tastes bland. It

1414
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:16.000
is one thing to say something is too spicy. It

1415
01:24:16.079 --> 01:24:19.159
is one thing to say something is too salty. It

1416
01:24:19.279 --> 01:24:23.920
is another thing to say this is an apricot and

1417
01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:28.399
it's a fucking banana. And this is where I this

1418
01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:31.960
is where I get really mad when it comes to

1419
01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:35.840
critics because him saying like, oh, this mulberries, these are

1420
01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:41.720
imported mulberries, when we literally saw where he picks mulberries

1421
01:24:41.760 --> 01:24:45.840
on his own property. I did a movie once, well, Okay,

1422
01:24:46.039 --> 01:24:49.479
two examples. I did a movie back in two thousand

1423
01:24:49.439 --> 01:24:55.000
and ten called Faces of Schlock. Whether it's your kind

1424
01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:58.279
of thing or not doesn't matter. But they had said

1425
01:24:58.439 --> 01:25:04.560
about the short film I made that the you know this,

1426
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:06.319
this looked bad and this looked bad. And then they said,

1427
01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:09.880
and the sound was clearly from the camera, the microphone

1428
01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:13.319
on top of the camera. I used a seven hundred

1429
01:25:13.319 --> 01:25:18.319
and fifty dollars Zeppelin microphone, like I used a real

1430
01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:22.079
high end microphone, and the sound sounds like a high

1431
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:28.600
end microphone. We just simply didn't do that. We used

1432
01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:31.720
a really good mic because I borrowed it from my

1433
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:35.560
friend ironically named Mike, but I did. I borrowed it.

1434
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:39.399
Then like years later, I do Babysitter Massacre. You can

1435
01:25:39.439 --> 01:25:44.039
watch it on twob right now. And they said, like

1436
01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:48.039
this kind of you know, cobble together garbage shot on

1437
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:53.800
an iPhone. Now, this is this is twenty twelve, twenty thirteen.

1438
01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:59.079
We pulled focus like there were lens choices, Like that

1439
01:25:59.199 --> 01:26:02.199
wasn't possible back then with an iPhone at all. And

1440
01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:04.720
all I could think was like, that's not a criticism.

1441
01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:08.880
You're literally just lying, lying, You're wrong. What are you

1442
01:26:08.920 --> 01:26:11.359
talking about, Like you could say the movie's boring. I

1443
01:26:11.359 --> 01:26:13.279
can't say, well, you're wrong, it's not boring. That doesn't

1444
01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:16.119
I can't do that. But you can't say like, oh,

1445
01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:19.079
well the whole movie is made of sand. That's what

1446
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:23.000
do you what? You know, it's not that stuff drove

1447
01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:25.680
me up the wall more than people saying like I'm

1448
01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:28.800
terrible and should quit and should die. Hearing somebody say

1449
01:26:28.840 --> 01:26:31.000
like this kind of garbage shot on a cell phone.

1450
01:26:31.039 --> 01:26:36.439
It's like I used lenses and it's obvious, like I

1451
01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:39.800
pulled the focus of those shots. It can't be on

1452
01:26:39.880 --> 01:26:43.479
a camera on a phone. It literally, ironically on a

1453
01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:46.600
camera that costs less than an iPhone at that time.

1454
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:50.000
So that's the kind of thing that drive me crazy.

1455
01:26:50.039 --> 01:26:51.279
So the idea that he is like, you know, I

1456
01:26:51.319 --> 01:26:56.119
could taste imported mulberries, it's like you're not just critiquing,

1457
01:26:56.159 --> 01:27:01.279
you're slandering. You're saying this person is a liar. And

1458
01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:03.880
that's even worse than what I'm describing, because it's not

1459
01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:07.920
like I opened the movie with like we used this equipment.

1460
01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:11.199
At least you know there's interpretation. But for them to

1461
01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:14.560
say these are fresh mulberries from where the rabbits are

1462
01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:18.880
hunted and you say, no, they're not. You're claiming they're

1463
01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:24.479
a liar, and you're demonstrably wrong. So I really get

1464
01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:29.600
the rage that that can instill, because it's like, I'm

1465
01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:35.760
not wrong. I know what I did. Yeah, yeah, like

1466
01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:38.600
I did the thing. What are you freaking talking about?

1467
01:27:39.399 --> 01:27:44.840
And the interesting twist though about this gentleman's refined palate,

1468
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:47.119
we'll get into right after this.

1469
01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:06.520
Peter lays out these two dishes, and, after reading the

1470
01:28:06.600 --> 01:28:11.920
scathing review, explains the rules of the game. These dishes

1471
01:28:12.039 --> 01:28:18.840
are indeed identical, except for one very subtle difference, one

1472
01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:24.880
minute difference, one very subtle difference, very very subtle. Yeah,

1473
01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:28.039
in fact, it's hardly a difference at all. One of

1474
01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:34.680
them is made with the native mulberries that he's collected.

1475
01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:42.000
The other one is made with belladonna, also naturally occurring

1476
01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:46.720
in his area. Looks very, very similar in every way

1477
01:28:46.920 --> 01:28:53.520
to mulberries, but it's extremely poisonous.

1478
01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:56.960
Well, there's another term that some people may not know

1479
01:28:57.039 --> 01:29:03.079
for belladonna, which is nightshade. Well, actually, wow, the technical

1480
01:29:03.159 --> 01:29:05.319
term I looked it up just to make sure, is

1481
01:29:05.439 --> 01:29:11.800
deadly nice. That's literally the name is Entropa belladonna, commonly

1482
01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:15.000
known as deadly night shade or belladonna.

1483
01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:22.000
And explains that for children three to five berries is

1484
01:29:22.079 --> 01:29:27.960
deadly for adults fifteen to twenty, and then explains what

1485
01:29:28.039 --> 01:29:33.840
kind of symptoms you will experience and says, now that

1486
01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:38.920
we know the rules, JT gets to taste one bite

1487
01:29:39.640 --> 01:29:43.920
of each dish, and then after he's tasted one bite

1488
01:29:43.920 --> 01:29:47.920
of each dish, he gets to decide which one he

1489
01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:51.640
hasked to finish, because he can if he's got such

1490
01:29:51.680 --> 01:29:56.840
a sophisticated palette, he'll have no problem distinguishing the difference

1491
01:29:56.880 --> 01:30:00.840
between one that was made with harmless, delicious small berries

1492
01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:03.720
and the other one with deadly nightshade.

1493
01:30:04.560 --> 01:30:07.439
And of course, and because of the amount of berries

1494
01:30:07.439 --> 01:30:09.760
in there, I think he said, there's thirty or twenty

1495
01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:12.119
berries and the whole thing one bite should only make

1496
01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:15.800
him mildly discomfort discomforted. Yeah, because people have been taking

1497
01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:24.039
belladonna recreationally for centuries. I think I wouldn't recommend it,

1498
01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:25.520
but you can.

1499
01:30:27.079 --> 01:30:30.520
Yeah, not a fun time necessarily, I mean, I guess

1500
01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:35.439
it depends on your definition of fun. So Peter does,

1501
01:30:35.920 --> 01:30:37.960
like he does, start to fight back a little bit

1502
01:30:38.039 --> 01:30:41.479
and not physically psychologically. Peter's kind of saying, like, what,

1503
01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:44.880
so you're you're basically just gonna kill me now, and

1504
01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:48.479
and Peter even says like, no, you can even choose

1505
01:30:49.039 --> 01:30:52.920
not to participate. You don't even have to play this game,

1506
01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:58.239
but we're gonna keep doing this because clearly you need

1507
01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:02.439
to learn these lessons. So like, you don't have to

1508
01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:06.800
participate now, but eventually you're gonna have to keep continuing

1509
01:31:06.840 --> 01:31:11.640
with the tests. So okay, JT kind of resigns himself,

1510
01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:17.359
and the tension builds because again, he hasn't eaten now

1511
01:31:17.399 --> 01:31:22.279
on what a week or more ten days, a very

1512
01:31:22.439 --> 01:31:26.479
very long time. So even just you and I mean

1513
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:31.079
you and I we've we've done intermiss intermittent fasting, and

1514
01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:35.479
you know how different after just like sixteen hours of

1515
01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:37.760
not eating, how different your palate is.

1516
01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:39.920
Yeah, it's much more intense.

1517
01:31:40.439 --> 01:31:47.000
So he's he's starving literally, and his palate is all weird.

1518
01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:52.079
And he sits there and belaboringly takes the first bite,

1519
01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:57.760
choose it, savors it, and goes to take the second bite,

1520
01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:02.000
and Peter even stops JT and says, cleanse your palate.

1521
01:32:02.279 --> 01:32:02.479
Yeah.

1522
01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:05.199
He pours them a glass of water. Oh what did

1523
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:07.479
you mention that he actually let.

1524
01:32:07.359 --> 01:32:09.399
Him have He does let him have one.

1525
01:32:09.119 --> 01:32:11.039
He was tied to a chair. This time, he's not

1526
01:32:11.039 --> 01:32:12.920
in the basement. He's actually in the dining.

1527
01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:15.720
Room, as any good meal should be served in the

1528
01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:20.159
dining room, of course. So he cleanses his palate and

1529
01:32:20.199 --> 01:32:26.840
then he takes the second bite, savors it, thinks and

1530
01:32:27.119 --> 01:32:31.399
kind of nods at the first plate and says, that's

1531
01:32:31.600 --> 01:32:37.039
the one. That's the one with mulberry. Okay. Peter says, okay,

1532
01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:45.199
you've made your choice. Eat and he just scarfs it,

1533
01:32:45.319 --> 01:32:50.159
like in ten seconds flat. He's demolished this plate it

1534
01:32:50.319 --> 01:32:52.439
food and like you said, he's shoveling it in He's

1535
01:32:52.560 --> 01:32:55.279
I mean, he's not using utensils, he's shoveling it in

1536
01:32:55.279 --> 01:32:57.560
his face. He's like a toddler eating a cake, just

1537
01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:00.760
like spar smearing it all over himself because he's so

1538
01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:06.119
fucking hungry. And there's there's a beat, and then he

1539
01:33:06.319 --> 01:33:15.279
starts to cough and choke a little bit, and Peter says, ah,

1540
01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:20.039
are we getting getting a little constriction in our airways?

1541
01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:23.880
Are we? Are we starting to have some problems? And

1542
01:33:23.880 --> 01:33:28.560
and JT's like turning red and you know he's he's

1543
01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:35.319
eaten the one with Deadly Nightshade, and Peter Peter isn't

1544
01:33:35.720 --> 01:33:43.600
relishing in his victory as much as being utterly disappointed

1545
01:33:44.479 --> 01:33:47.880
that JT couldn't taste the difference.

1546
01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:51.680
Well, you're you're you're letting you're totally Are you forgetting

1547
01:33:51.720 --> 01:33:52.239
the best part?

1548
01:33:52.640 --> 01:33:55.479
What's the best? Maybe I am forgetting that when starts

1549
01:33:55.479 --> 01:33:56.920
reviewing the oh, I was going to get to that

1550
01:33:57.640 --> 01:34:03.119
to get But my thought is, what if JT didn't

1551
01:34:03.159 --> 01:34:05.960
pick wrong? Maybe he just he wanted to die?

1552
01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:07.800
Well, I thought that's why he was mad. I thought

1553
01:34:07.800 --> 01:34:10.039
he was mad because he he was like, no, I

1554
01:34:10.119 --> 01:34:12.319
knew you chose, because he even says like, you know,

1555
01:34:12.319 --> 01:34:16.039
how could you not tell the difference between night Shade

1556
01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:19.600
and Mold Frries. I think he knew that he did

1557
01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:22.359
it on the yes, he just didn't want to suffer anymore.

1558
01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:26.439
Yeah, And that's what makes his final final review quote

1559
01:34:26.520 --> 01:34:29.800
unquote so much more chilling, is that he was like, no,

1560
01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:32.640
this is how I'm going to go out. And not

1561
01:34:32.680 --> 01:34:35.560
only am I going out on as best of my

1562
01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:40.439
terms as can be negotiated in this present circumstance, But

1563
01:34:40.640 --> 01:34:45.439
then I'm going to give the final review, and you know,

1564
01:34:45.840 --> 01:34:50.520
is totally lashing on him about, you know, how the

1565
01:34:50.640 --> 01:34:52.439
rabbit isn't cooked right.

1566
01:34:52.520 --> 01:34:56.560
And how the well he's like laughing and wheezing and saying,

1567
01:34:56.640 --> 01:35:05.279
like the pasta overcooked, the the ragu sour.

1568
01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:06.119
Yeah.

1569
01:35:06.159 --> 01:35:08.039
I love that the way he says it, because his

1570
01:35:08.079 --> 01:35:11.920
face is all bloody and yeah sour.

1571
01:35:14.399 --> 01:35:18.479
So that that is the scariest scene to me, because

1572
01:35:19.359 --> 01:35:23.319
that's the that's the darkest depths of human desperation right there.

1573
01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:27.039
But he had given up, you know, he's given up

1574
01:35:27.079 --> 01:35:31.680
all hope. He's trying to kill himself. But he's going

1575
01:35:31.720 --> 01:35:36.520
out on his own terms, which is scary.

1576
01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:41.960
It is scary. But unfortunately, there may be a contingency

1577
01:35:42.039 --> 01:35:45.119
plan for this that I think is even scarier than

1578
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:47.720
what you're talking about. And we'll get to that right

1579
01:35:47.760 --> 01:36:06.800
after this. So as as a great chef, he's ready

1580
01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:10.359
for you know, he's not. The courses aren't over yet,

1581
01:36:10.760 --> 01:36:16.359
let's say so. Peter pulls out a needle as JT

1582
01:36:16.680 --> 01:36:20.720
Is dying and says, this is the antidote. We're not

1583
01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:24.760
done or I'm not done with you yet, and sticks

1584
01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:27.960
it in his neck and pumps him and he starts

1585
01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:32.920
breathing again. And that was to me even scarier than

1586
01:36:33.319 --> 01:36:37.880
than JT's acceptance, although acceptance of like your own fate

1587
01:36:39.119 --> 01:36:42.239
it can be. I mean, it is very unnerving. Did

1588
01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:43.640
I show you King of the Ants?

1589
01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:46.439
No, you've just been threatening to show me King of

1590
01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:46.920
the Ants.

1591
01:36:47.920 --> 01:36:52.239
That blows my mind. Oh man, it's great. There's basically

1592
01:36:52.279 --> 01:36:55.720
a sequence where there's a lot to that movie, but

1593
01:36:55.760 --> 01:37:00.399
they're they're basically beating a guy in a shed every day,

1594
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:03.159
trying to give him enough brain damage so that he

1595
01:37:03.239 --> 01:37:07.520
can't tell anybody what they've done, because they figure nobody

1596
01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:10.479
will ask questions if he just if he dies or disappears,

1597
01:37:10.520 --> 01:37:12.479
people are gonna look. But if he just shows up

1598
01:37:12.479 --> 01:37:16.199
and he's touched in the head, they're just gonna be like, oh,

1599
01:37:16.279 --> 01:37:18.399
he must have had like fell down or something.

1600
01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:19.960
Ah.

1601
01:37:20.039 --> 01:37:26.239
So they're wrapping his head in like foam cushion and

1602
01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:28.319
then hitting him with a golf club in the side

1603
01:37:28.319 --> 01:37:31.720
of the head every day, again and again, and leaving

1604
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:34.239
him in a hot shed and only giving him water

1605
01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:39.560
once a day. And he's after a few times, he's

1606
01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:43.359
like crapping himself and he's you know, losing his mind.

1607
01:37:43.399 --> 01:37:46.880
They show him like having these terrifying nightmares and stuff.

1608
01:37:47.720 --> 01:37:49.920
But at one point, when they're in there laughing and

1609
01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:52.479
drinking beer and they're getting ready to do the thing,

1610
01:37:52.479 --> 01:37:54.960
they look over at him and he's just wrapping the

1611
01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:59.479
thing around his head and tying the knot while your face,

1612
01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:03.560
you're face Holy moly, Okay, I gotta show you that one.

1613
01:38:04.279 --> 01:38:06.199
That one's not quite a horror movie either. It's more

1614
01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:10.560
of an action thriller drama. But like, wow, your face, Yeah,

1615
01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:13.920
because that's that's when I think about like the absolute

1616
01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:17.279
sense of like acceptance and defeat and et cetera. I

1617
01:38:17.319 --> 01:38:19.840
think of that scene, yeah, because it's and even the

1618
01:38:19.880 --> 01:38:21.359
guys in the scene, they're all like, what is he

1619
01:38:21.479 --> 01:38:24.760
doing because he's just wrapping the thing around his head

1620
01:38:24.760 --> 01:38:29.199
and tying it on like they usually do. Yeah. So anyway,

1621
01:38:30.239 --> 01:38:33.880
you're here right now. So so now we find out

1622
01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:39.680
that there is an even bigger plan. And I will say,

1623
01:38:40.279 --> 01:38:43.399
as we get into the remainder of the movie, this

1624
01:38:43.520 --> 01:38:48.039
is probably my least favorite plot device. I just feel

1625
01:38:48.079 --> 01:38:50.880
like it was a little bit easier than the rest

1626
01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:53.239
of it. As I just say how much I hate critics.

1627
01:38:55.119 --> 01:39:00.279
But he now kidnaps the wife yeah, brings her out

1628
01:39:00.359 --> 01:39:04.960
to the farm and she is now tied up, and

1629
01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:08.439
JT is freaked out because he thinks, you know, something

1630
01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:12.319
awful is gonna happen to her. And then Peter leaves

1631
01:39:12.399 --> 01:39:14.720
JT in the base or leaves her in the basement

1632
01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:18.279
and takes JT up and into the forest where he's

1633
01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:22.159
dressed in his hunting camouflage with this little beret.

1634
01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:25.439
And he looks great except for the beret. Like, the

1635
01:39:25.479 --> 01:39:28.239
beret for me is what puts pushes it over the edge.

1636
01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:31.800
Well, I love that because he's so pretentious. Oh, absolutely,

1637
01:39:31.800 --> 01:39:34.239
he's gotta he's gotta be like that. But as he's

1638
01:39:34.239 --> 01:39:36.039
marching in with the woods, he's basically saying like I'm

1639
01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:38.680
going to hunt you like you're I'm going to You're

1640
01:39:38.720 --> 01:39:43.920
gonna be game. And then he says that you know what,

1641
01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:48.479
he says something along lines of like Catherine, uh, probably

1642
01:39:48.520 --> 01:39:50.199
won't even realize what she's eating.

1643
01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:54.479
Yeah, he said, like, well she won't, she won't realize

1644
01:39:54.520 --> 01:39:55.439
what she's eating.

1645
01:39:55.199 --> 01:39:56.359
At first at first.

1646
01:39:56.439 --> 01:39:59.319
Yeah, the ribs may be a bit stringy.

1647
01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:01.359
Man, I may have I may have to braize you,

1648
01:40:01.439 --> 01:40:04.119
actually braise them actually, And then he even says like

1649
01:40:04.159 --> 01:40:06.079
I might even try a little bit myself. And this

1650
01:40:06.279 --> 01:40:08.880
is the only part I wasn't crazy about. I just

1651
01:40:08.880 --> 01:40:12.880
felt like that was almost two horror movie bad guy

1652
01:40:13.079 --> 01:40:16.439
to like resort to cannibalism. Yeah, and I felt like

1653
01:40:16.520 --> 01:40:20.000
being a chef and then feeding somebody their own loved

1654
01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:22.079
one was a bit on the nose.

1655
01:40:22.840 --> 01:40:25.359
But I will Eric Cartman, but.

1656
01:40:25.399 --> 01:40:29.680
I will say that that I think had he and

1657
01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:31.239
I'm not saying I wish this how the movie went,

1658
01:40:31.279 --> 01:40:34.479
but I think that if he had been feeding him Catherine. Oh,

1659
01:40:34.720 --> 01:40:37.039
I think that would have made more sense. Yeah, from

1660
01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:40.239
a perspective of like, you know, like, what did Catherine

1661
01:40:40.279 --> 01:40:43.039
ever do for him to do that? I guess, you know,

1662
01:40:43.840 --> 01:40:48.159
the mortifying thought to JT, yes would be would be hell,

1663
01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:52.680
But like you know, I don't know, like I'm shrugging

1664
01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:54.680
a little bit, like I guess that's you know, hell,

1665
01:40:54.760 --> 01:40:57.439
but like he'll be dead. Like, I feel like it

1666
01:40:57.439 --> 01:40:59.760
would have been more horrific if he had been feeding

1667
01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:03.319
him Catherine. But I think that would have made more

1668
01:41:03.359 --> 01:41:04.840
sense to what the character was about. But yeah, So

1669
01:41:04.840 --> 01:41:07.359
that was the only part I don't love, and I

1670
01:41:07.439 --> 01:41:10.359
love basically every minute of this movie, but I just

1671
01:41:10.359 --> 01:41:12.359
felt like that I just felt like that came kind

1672
01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:14.359
of out of nowhere and was a little bit more

1673
01:41:14.479 --> 01:41:17.439
dark and horary than the rest of the movie. Yeah,

1674
01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:21.359
but he goes to hunt the guy and it doesn't

1675
01:41:21.399 --> 01:41:24.119
quite go exactly the way you'd expect him, and he

1676
01:41:24.199 --> 01:41:26.560
runs away, he gets shot, and if you want to

1677
01:41:26.600 --> 01:41:29.920
take it from there, I mean, yeah, it gets kind

1678
01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:30.319
of messy.

1679
01:41:31.319 --> 01:41:38.560
So as as Peter is chasing JT through the woods,

1680
01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:43.880
Catherine is able to get a little shard of glass

1681
01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:49.239
while she's down in the cellar and she starts like

1682
01:41:49.319 --> 01:41:50.720
cutting herself free.

1683
01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:53.039
Yeah, so her neck is tied to a post and

1684
01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:58.159
that's it. Yeah, she's not nearly as intensely bound as

1685
01:41:58.159 --> 01:41:59.039
her husband.

1686
01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:03.439
Was, so clearly, like, you know, not, I wouldn't say

1687
01:42:03.479 --> 01:42:08.399
he's underestimated her. It's just like she's not in Peter's consideration. So,

1688
01:42:09.399 --> 01:42:14.239
you know, Peter is chasing JT, chasing him through the woods.

1689
01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:18.680
JT's able to kind of get the one up on him,

1690
01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:21.880
you know, kind of lose him a little bit by

1691
01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:26.239
backtracking up and down the creek, almost losing it, so

1692
01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:30.239
he would lose his trail. So JT's able to like

1693
01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:33.399
kind of make his way back to the farmhouse where

1694
01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:36.800
Catherine now that she's gotten her hands free, she gets

1695
01:42:36.840 --> 01:42:40.079
her neck free, she's able to breathe, and she starts

1696
01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:46.319
kind of like investigating around the house and that's when

1697
01:42:46.399 --> 01:42:52.960
she finds body, the body of the PI yes, and

1698
01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:57.279
she very quickly starts to put together what's going on.

1699
01:42:58.039 --> 01:43:01.720
So she runs to the phone and dials nine to

1700
01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:05.119
one one says, how you know, we've been kidnapped, and

1701
01:43:05.199 --> 01:43:07.399
of course they ask what they're supposed to always ask,

1702
01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:09.760
is you know, well, what's the address of your emergency?

1703
01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:13.159
And she doesn't know, and they're asking, okay, well, do

1704
01:43:13.199 --> 01:43:16.359
you see any landmarks? Do you see anything you can

1705
01:43:16.399 --> 01:43:20.880
describe to us? And she hears someone coming, so she

1706
01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:24.399
carefully puts the phone down and tries to you know,

1707
01:43:24.560 --> 01:43:28.760
kind of like find her, find a find her place

1708
01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:33.640
of safety, find a place to hide. Right, and it's JT.

1709
01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:40.000
And so they are reunited and they start running out

1710
01:43:40.039 --> 01:43:42.600
the house together trying to figure out a plan of

1711
01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:48.640
how to get out, how to escape, and they realize

1712
01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:54.199
that Peter's car is there, so he tells her to

1713
01:43:54.199 --> 01:43:55.960
go into the car. He's going to go back to

1714
01:43:56.000 --> 01:43:59.800
the cabin and get the keys and the whole time

1715
01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:03.039
holding our breaths because we're wondering, like where Peter could be.

1716
01:44:04.600 --> 01:44:06.920
He manages to get the keys, he manages to get

1717
01:44:06.920 --> 01:44:11.199
the car started, and Peter finally makes his arrival on

1718
01:44:11.279 --> 01:44:14.439
the scene and he starts firing at them, and they

1719
01:44:14.560 --> 01:44:18.680
almost are able to drive away. And then just like

1720
01:44:18.720 --> 01:44:22.119
I said, though, he's a real good shot, he gets

1721
01:44:22.720 --> 01:44:26.439
he gets JT right in the head and the car crashes.

1722
01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:34.840
Catherine gets out and she's severely injured. She's struggling, and

1723
01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:41.880
Peter's coming for her, and he as he's walking up,

1724
01:44:42.239 --> 01:44:46.479
he's kind of reminiscing almost, and he starts quoting what

1725
01:44:46.560 --> 01:44:50.680
his brother said in the beginning of the movie about

1726
01:44:50.680 --> 01:44:55.359
how there's creators and destroyers and he who would seek

1727
01:44:55.479 --> 01:44:58.840
to unite them, seeks to destroy the world. And then

1728
01:44:58.880 --> 01:45:02.640
he looks at cath for in kind of cowering in

1729
01:45:02.720 --> 01:45:05.000
the grass, and she's all beaten up and bruised, and

1730
01:45:05.279 --> 01:45:08.640
she just got out of the car crash, and he

1731
01:45:09.520 --> 01:45:14.399
very disappointed in himself. He says, huh, I guess I

1732
01:45:14.439 --> 01:45:16.000
am a destroyer after all.

1733
01:45:16.239 --> 01:45:18.560
And before before we get to the final ending part,

1734
01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:22.520
did we gloss over that he does confess to killing

1735
01:45:22.560 --> 01:45:23.960
and hiding his brother's body.

1736
01:45:25.319 --> 01:45:25.880
We did gloss.

1737
01:45:26.199 --> 01:45:28.920
Well, there's a lot to cover, but it was actually

1738
01:45:28.960 --> 01:45:30.119
I believe when he was taking him out in the

1739
01:45:30.119 --> 01:45:34.199
woods to hunt. Yes, he informs him basically of what

1740
01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:36.640
we saw, but from his perspective, he was always a

1741
01:45:36.680 --> 01:45:38.840
mean boy. He was always beating me up and bullying me.

1742
01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:41.039
Blah blah blah blah blah. I stabbed him in the

1743
01:45:41.079 --> 01:45:44.560
neck and then I buried him in a like a

1744
01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:47.640
very shallow hole and covered him in leaves, and no

1745
01:45:47.680 --> 01:45:50.159
one ever found him. So I just wanted to mention

1746
01:45:50.319 --> 01:45:51.720
that because, as you were saying, I was like, oh wait,

1747
01:45:51.760 --> 01:45:55.479
when did that happen? So we know that he didn't

1748
01:45:55.520 --> 01:45:57.960
like plan to kill his brother, but we also know

1749
01:45:58.039 --> 01:46:02.439
that he was not really perturbed about doing it.

1750
01:46:02.560 --> 01:46:04.039
He did not show any remorse.

1751
01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:07.520
Yeah, there's there's no remorse at all, which again I

1752
01:46:07.560 --> 01:46:11.119
get as a younger sibling. But no, so I'm sorry

1753
01:46:11.119 --> 01:46:13.199
I didn't he decided to thank you for that. Thanks,

1754
01:46:13.279 --> 01:46:15.359
but so we know that as well. But no, So

1755
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:17.279
this is an incredible moment you had, that moment where

1756
01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:20.479
as he's got her down in the grass, he kind

1757
01:46:20.479 --> 01:46:22.399
of realizes like, maybe I am a destroyer.

1758
01:46:22.920 --> 01:46:29.720
Yeah, so in a kind of mirror to what we

1759
01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:32.399
know is the beginning of the movie. He gets on

1760
01:46:32.439 --> 01:46:36.760
top of her and starts strangling her, and she's you know,

1761
01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:40.279
losing consciousness. She's trying to push him off, she's trying

1762
01:46:40.319 --> 01:46:42.680
to get free, she's trying to find any way to

1763
01:46:42.720 --> 01:46:46.159
save herself. And then she notices something and she grabs

1764
01:46:46.199 --> 01:46:50.279
a stick and she stabs him right in the neck,

1765
01:46:50.920 --> 01:46:52.239
just like he stabbed his brother.

1766
01:46:52.520 --> 01:46:52.840
Yep.

1767
01:46:54.039 --> 01:46:57.600
And he you know, looks stunned and he falls back

1768
01:46:58.560 --> 01:47:02.720
and he's taking his life, breaths and just looks up

1769
01:47:02.760 --> 01:47:05.479
at the moon and then the movie ends.

1770
01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:07.680
Yeah, that's where that's where it ends.

1771
01:47:07.680 --> 01:47:10.239
That's that's what it. That's all she wrote.

1772
01:47:10.920 --> 01:47:13.640
And Bitter Feast comes to an end, and it is

1773
01:47:13.960 --> 01:47:18.399
It is an incredible ride. I love that ending because

1774
01:47:19.079 --> 01:47:22.560
I think that remember how I said earlier that one

1775
01:47:22.600 --> 01:47:26.520
of the elements was perversion. Yes, to me, the fact

1776
01:47:26.600 --> 01:47:31.359
that he became what he despised is is a perversion

1777
01:47:31.439 --> 01:47:34.199
of the things he had become in life. Now it's possible.

1778
01:47:34.239 --> 01:47:37.920
You know, we don't know everything about his character. For

1779
01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:41.279
all we know, you know, he was a sociopath always,

1780
01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:43.560
For all we know that was why he was so

1781
01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:46.239
good at becoming a chef. He was, you know, he

1782
01:47:46.279 --> 01:47:49.000
was so cutthroat. He didn't care who he hurt to

1783
01:47:49.039 --> 01:47:51.560
get what he wanted. He didn't care about any of it.

1784
01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:53.479
He just did what he wanted and got what he wanted,

1785
01:47:53.520 --> 01:47:56.119
and blah blah, blah, blah blah. We have no idea. Yeah,

1786
01:47:56.319 --> 01:48:00.319
or he could have been a relatively normal guy who

1787
01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:05.720
just didn't take shit from anybody. But then when he snapped,

1788
01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:11.920
he basically went back to that baser instinct because as

1789
01:48:11.960 --> 01:48:15.920
a child, everything in his life got better after he

1790
01:48:16.039 --> 01:48:19.520
killed his brother, his bully, the person who was tormenting him.

1791
01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:22.920
M hmm. And it wasn't premeditated originally, you know, but

1792
01:48:23.159 --> 01:48:26.479
but the proof is in the pudding. I've got better.

1793
01:48:27.319 --> 01:48:29.920
You know. His parents gave him more attention, he wasn't

1794
01:48:29.920 --> 01:48:32.800
bullied all the time. He you know, did all these things.

1795
01:48:33.039 --> 01:48:35.319
So in a way, it was almost like a reset,

1796
01:48:35.680 --> 01:48:40.840
like a a a trip to simpler times, is kind

1797
01:48:40.840 --> 01:48:43.640
of the way I look at it from his perspective,

1798
01:48:43.640 --> 01:48:47.640
I mean, and to have him do all of this

1799
01:48:47.720 --> 01:48:52.600
stuff and then kind of realize that he is doing

1800
01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:55.199
what his brother was doing. After all this time of

1801
01:48:55.239 --> 01:48:57.800
wanting to be a creator of putting things into the world,

1802
01:48:58.680 --> 01:49:02.199
he was a destroyer and then he immediately gets the

1803
01:49:02.239 --> 01:49:07.199
fate that he had given destroyers in the past. I

1804
01:49:07.199 --> 01:49:09.880
think that's a really fascinating thing. And if you want

1805
01:49:09.880 --> 01:49:13.359
to go even deeper with all of his hunting and stuff,

1806
01:49:13.600 --> 01:49:15.960
you could even read that as like almost kind of

1807
01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:19.439
an anti meat message of I mean, I'm not saying

1808
01:49:19.439 --> 01:49:20.800
that that's what they were going for. They were trying

1809
01:49:20.840 --> 01:49:22.600
to make a peda movie. I'm just saying like you

1810
01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:25.199
could look at it like poetically as like, well, he

1811
01:49:25.359 --> 01:49:28.000
was killing all these rabbits and hunting venison and hunting

1812
01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:30.800
all these things. Maybe he was destroying more than he

1813
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:33.640
was creating. Oh yeah, I don't know, that's just a thought.

1814
01:49:34.159 --> 01:49:35.039
What do you what are you thinking?

1815
01:49:35.840 --> 01:49:42.840
Well, because I like where you're going with the you know,

1816
01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:47.760
the meat message, and I think that ties into one

1817
01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:50.600
of the big thoughts that that you know, I've had,

1818
01:49:50.640 --> 01:49:52.840
and I'm sure this is you know, lots of people

1819
01:49:52.920 --> 01:49:58.159
have talked about it, but yes, JT, you know, was

1820
01:49:58.159 --> 01:50:02.119
a quote unquote destroyer because he was giving bad reviews.

1821
01:50:02.880 --> 01:50:05.720
But we see, well.

1822
01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:08.640
He was giving malicious reviews without any care for how

1823
01:50:08.640 --> 01:50:10.000
it could hurt somebody exactly.

1824
01:50:10.079 --> 01:50:13.000
Yeah, it was. I mean there were bad mean and

1825
01:50:13.159 --> 01:50:13.439
you know.

1826
01:50:13.479 --> 01:50:16.720
Very there were several parts where Peter was saying like,

1827
01:50:16.800 --> 01:50:20.000
this is my life. Yeah, you know, like there were

1828
01:50:20.039 --> 01:50:21.720
several parts where he said that, Like when he said

1829
01:50:21.720 --> 01:50:24.279
that to the owner of the restaurant that was firing,

1830
01:50:24.319 --> 01:50:25.560
He's like, this is my life.

1831
01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:26.399
Yeah.

1832
01:50:26.439 --> 01:50:28.880
So I mean I don't want to give I don't

1833
01:50:28.920 --> 01:50:31.439
want to totally absolve JT. Not that he deserved what

1834
01:50:31.520 --> 01:50:35.239
he got in this movie, but he never once thought like,

1835
01:50:35.439 --> 01:50:40.119
what will happen to this person's life, business, family? Yeah, yeah,

1836
01:50:40.159 --> 01:50:42.359
he never once thought of that. That didn't matter, no,

1837
01:50:42.640 --> 01:50:43.159
not at all.

1838
01:50:43.520 --> 01:50:48.039
But it's it's interesting to me because we see we

1839
01:50:48.119 --> 01:50:52.319
see on screen so often, so many examples of Peter

1840
01:50:53.479 --> 01:50:58.880
and how dedicated and faithful and meticulous he is with

1841
01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:02.960
his cooking. But then we also look at how much

1842
01:51:03.159 --> 01:51:09.319
time and energy and planning he put into destroying the

1843
01:51:09.359 --> 01:51:12.840
person that he hated. And so there's kind of that

1844
01:51:12.840 --> 01:51:16.159
that look of like you like you were saying the

1845
01:51:16.199 --> 01:51:21.199
perversion of his creative force, where you know, for using

1846
01:51:21.239 --> 01:51:24.479
his creative force for good would have been making more

1847
01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:28.000
good food and and you know, opening a new restaurant

1848
01:51:28.039 --> 01:51:32.319
and maybe trying a new cooking show. But no, he

1849
01:51:32.359 --> 01:51:36.520
took that creative energy and he poured it all into

1850
01:51:36.600 --> 01:51:41.159
just bringing down the person that brought him down. And

1851
01:51:41.560 --> 01:51:45.239
that is a pretty interesting exploration for me.

1852
01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:48.399
Well, and if you want to go even deeper into

1853
01:51:48.399 --> 01:51:52.479
the kind of analyzing, one thing I noticed upon rewatching

1854
01:51:52.520 --> 01:51:55.039
this film for the first time in a good while

1855
01:51:56.119 --> 01:52:00.359
was how intensely he talks on his TV show, et

1856
01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:06.960
cetera about the ingredients, the sour saying, the difficulty, the

1857
01:52:06.960 --> 01:52:09.079
the rarity, the da da da and da da da.

1858
01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:11.479
And I know that that's all a part of gourmet food,

1859
01:52:12.239 --> 01:52:17.960
but if you think about it, that's an element of searching.

1860
01:52:19.399 --> 01:52:21.439
That's something you have to do. You have to go

1861
01:52:21.880 --> 01:52:26.000
outside of yourself to because it's not cooking technique. It's

1862
01:52:26.079 --> 01:52:29.119
getting the best ingredients and then preparing them properly and

1863
01:52:29.159 --> 01:52:34.039
doing all this stuff procuring these things, which kind of

1864
01:52:34.079 --> 01:52:36.920
made me wonder if he was kind of a little

1865
01:52:36.960 --> 01:52:41.279
creatively bankrupt, you know, because he's doing a cooking show

1866
01:52:41.600 --> 01:52:44.520
where he's making meals that like no one watching it

1867
01:52:44.560 --> 01:52:48.319
can make. Yeah, and maybe I don't watch enough cooking

1868
01:52:48.359 --> 01:52:51.399
shows on television television. I watch a lot of cooking

1869
01:52:51.439 --> 01:52:54.720
on YouTube, but like he's you know, explaining how to

1870
01:52:54.760 --> 01:52:58.319
make like a you know, Brazilian sea bass for Tata.

1871
01:52:58.720 --> 01:53:01.560
Who's making a Brazilian and sea bass for Tata at

1872
01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:07.359
home while they watch along? Nobody, Yeah, nobody. And that's

1873
01:53:07.439 --> 01:53:11.800
kind of my point is like, is maybe in a way,

1874
01:53:12.039 --> 01:53:18.800
procuring JT was kind of him leaning into the laziness

1875
01:53:19.760 --> 01:53:23.960
or the desperation that he had found himself in as

1876
01:53:23.960 --> 01:53:27.119
a chef. Because it can't it can't be just that

1877
01:53:27.319 --> 01:53:30.199
he's bad on TV as to why he's getting let

1878
01:53:30.239 --> 01:53:33.279
go of from the restaurants. Something else has to be missing,

1879
01:53:33.279 --> 01:53:36.239
and it can't just be one review ruins your restaurant. Now,

1880
01:53:36.239 --> 01:53:38.680
it may be that one review on top of the

1881
01:53:38.680 --> 01:53:41.039
fact that you're inclining, or on top of the fact,

1882
01:53:41.239 --> 01:53:44.159
you know, the whole mulberry with the rabbits thing is

1883
01:53:44.199 --> 01:53:50.640
honestly one of the least extravagant concepts. Yeah yeah, compared

1884
01:53:50.680 --> 01:53:55.279
to importing you know, fucking beef tallow from Tibet or

1885
01:53:55.319 --> 01:53:59.000
some shit, you know, aside from that kind of thing,

1886
01:53:59.439 --> 01:54:03.439
that's actually like a really down home concept. And he

1887
01:54:03.479 --> 01:54:05.600
grew up hunting and he grew up in you know,

1888
01:54:05.640 --> 01:54:08.600
being in nature, so in a way, it's like that

1889
01:54:08.720 --> 01:54:11.159
might have been one of the last times he was

1890
01:54:11.279 --> 01:54:18.279
really inspired. Oh yeah, was this rabbit dish with the

1891
01:54:18.399 --> 01:54:24.520
mulberry ragou and having that destroyed by this writer on

1892
01:54:24.600 --> 01:54:27.119
top of the fact that he feels like maybe deep

1893
01:54:27.159 --> 01:54:30.039
down he's lost it, or maybe deep down he's out

1894
01:54:30.079 --> 01:54:32.960
of ideas or what have you. I don't know. That's

1895
01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:34.600
just kind of a thought I started to have when

1896
01:54:34.600 --> 01:54:36.600
I noticed when he would talk about when he kept

1897
01:54:36.600 --> 01:54:38.960
talking about the ingredients. And I know that people talk

1898
01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:41.600
about ingredients, and ingredients are important, but at the end

1899
01:54:41.640 --> 01:54:42.840
of the day, like you should be able to make

1900
01:54:42.880 --> 01:54:45.800
an omelet with eggs and it should be good. Yeah,

1901
01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:48.079
like you should know how you know what I was

1902
01:54:48.119 --> 01:54:50.720
growing up, My stepdad had tricks for if the eggs

1903
01:54:50.720 --> 01:54:52.560
were olled, he would look at the date on them

1904
01:54:53.239 --> 01:54:54.840
and then he'd he'd be like, we got to wake

1905
01:54:54.840 --> 01:54:57.279
the eggs up, you know, like we had tricks from

1906
01:54:57.279 --> 01:55:01.239
the restaurant. Yeah. So, like the idea that everything is

1907
01:55:01.520 --> 01:55:04.960
you know, sea bass and and and and a reduction

1908
01:55:05.119 --> 01:55:07.079
from a blah blah blah blah blah, and you know,

1909
01:55:07.600 --> 01:55:10.880
you know, bergugnon wine and all like. I don't know

1910
01:55:10.960 --> 01:55:13.239
that that's just a thought I had in my head.

1911
01:55:14.039 --> 01:55:17.239
No, I I think that's a very good thought. And

1912
01:55:17.680 --> 01:55:21.760
I think you and I are both of the especially

1913
01:55:21.760 --> 01:55:24.800
when it comes to cooking. We're both of the opinion

1914
01:55:24.960 --> 01:55:28.439
that as long as it tastes good and you enjoy it,

1915
01:55:29.239 --> 01:55:33.920
then it's good food. You know, And I think food

1916
01:55:33.920 --> 01:55:40.760
poisoning for going back to the food poisoning forever. But

1917
01:55:41.119 --> 01:55:45.680
that's it's not just food though, that's any any creative

1918
01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:52.479
thing that you consume, art, music, movies. If you enjoy it,

1919
01:55:53.119 --> 01:55:56.479
then it's good. It doesn't have to be the best,

1920
01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:00.760
most expensive ingredients, it doesn't have to be you know,

1921
01:56:01.479 --> 01:56:06.760
shot on the most expensive camera. It as long as

1922
01:56:06.800 --> 01:56:10.680
it's something that you enjoy, then it is good.

1923
01:56:12.119 --> 01:56:15.840
Yeah. And as I look at this more and more,

1924
01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:19.880
I think, and we'll leave it here. But I think

1925
01:56:19.960 --> 01:56:21.680
he I the more I think about I think he

1926
01:56:21.760 --> 01:56:25.680
wanted to torment and kill this guy as a way

1927
01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:29.319
to recapture his spark. I really do. I think that

1928
01:56:29.520 --> 01:56:32.439
this was his way of bringing back that inspiration he

1929
01:56:32.520 --> 01:56:38.000
had to create by destroying the destroyer. Yes, yeah, that's

1930
01:56:38.159 --> 01:56:40.399
just something in my head like that maybe after he

1931
01:56:40.520 --> 01:56:46.119
was done tormenting JT. Franks, that maybe he could return

1932
01:56:46.239 --> 01:56:52.520
to glory. Yeah, but instead he returned to gory. So

1933
01:56:52.800 --> 01:56:55.399
with that all being said, before we get out of here,

1934
01:56:55.560 --> 01:56:56.960
you want to tell him what we're going to be

1935
01:56:57.000 --> 01:56:59.960
talking about this the next episode of Cutting Deeple Drop

1936
01:57:00.119 --> 01:57:05.880
the day after Thanksgiving, and it is food and family themed.

1937
01:57:06.760 --> 01:57:08.199
Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

1938
01:57:08.399 --> 01:57:13.399
The classic from nineteen seventy four, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre

1939
01:57:13.520 --> 01:57:16.920
possibly my favorite horror movie of all time and one

1940
01:57:16.960 --> 01:57:19.960
of the scariest horror movies of all time. I cannot

1941
01:57:19.960 --> 01:57:22.279
wait to dissect it and talk about it because I

1942
01:57:22.319 --> 01:57:25.560
actually have never really watched it through that lens before,

1943
01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:28.840
so I'm going to really savor that. And I want

1944
01:57:28.840 --> 01:57:31.079
to let you guys know if you need to bone

1945
01:57:31.159 --> 01:57:33.560
up ahead of time, because Texas Chainsaw is a perfect

1946
01:57:33.600 --> 01:57:37.399
Thanksgiving movie. It's got food, it's got family. It is

1947
01:57:37.720 --> 01:57:40.680
right now streaming on Netflix, it is on t B,

1948
01:57:40.920 --> 01:57:45.359
it is on Pluto, TV, Roku, Channel Plex, It's on Peacock.

1949
01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:49.359
It is just about anywhere you watch movies for free,

1950
01:57:49.920 --> 01:57:52.640
so that you have no excuse not to check out

1951
01:57:52.640 --> 01:57:55.640
Texas Chainsaw Masacer. If you haven't already, we'll be talking

1952
01:57:55.640 --> 01:57:57.560
about it on Black Friday.

1953
01:57:58.520 --> 01:57:58.720
Woo.

1954
01:57:59.319 --> 01:58:00.520
Yeah. Well, I mean just has to.

1955
01:58:00.880 --> 01:58:03.560
Be perfect, that just happens to be you perfect.

1956
01:58:03.199 --> 01:58:06.119
When it is yo. So uh but with that all

1957
01:58:06.159 --> 01:58:09.079
being said, thank you guys again for tuning in, and

1958
01:58:09.439 --> 01:58:13.199
uh we do appreciate you listening to Cutting Deep into Horror.

1959
01:58:13.520 --> 01:58:16.279
I've been your host Nrigue Kuto here with Rachel Radolfi.

1960
01:58:16.680 --> 01:58:18.640
And uh, if you love what we did here and

1961
01:58:18.680 --> 01:58:20.439
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1962
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1963
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1964
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1965
01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:32.399
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1966
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just feed you to your wife, I guess. And if

1967
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1973
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lounge wear, or my favorite robes. So now it's time

1974
01:58:55.720 --> 01:58:57.239
for us to get out of here until next time,

1975
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so well, stay hungry.